Talk:Calling Out

transcribing--Crooked tooth 12:42, 6 August 2011 (PDT) Sorry i cant transcribe my computer is fucking up--Crooked tooth 15:24, 6 August 2011 (PDT) The Calling Out "Tito" - Don video says it's unavailable =/ --Elliebytes 12:53, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
 * At the moment there is a problem with the video (probably Chris being a dumbass). It's viewable on his YouTube channel page, and I'm about to upload a backup until we can get it on the CWCVilleLibrary. --Anonymax 12:54, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Do we really want to be talking about the pix on here? Someone might read it. -BrianBash 15:35, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
 * We won't know the true authenticity of the photos until Chris surrenders them. Until such a time, please refrain from theories as to who might be depicted in the photos. --Anonymax 16:34, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Tomboy/Tomgirl forum
I cannot believe that stalking him actually lured him out of his "retirement."

Hiatus Stats
This video hiatus from November 22, 2010 to August 6, 2011 was 257 days long.

This is not Chris's longest hiatus from Youtube. The gap between Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007 and Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008 was 270 days long.


 * I used the date calculator on timeanddate.com to compile this and I did not include the end date. I don't know if this belong on the actual Calling Out page or somewhere else. So I'm just writing it here for reference. Feel free to add the info to this or another article. -- Crow 18:28, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Went ahead and added this to the Chris and the Internet page. Dantz 20:18, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

I find it funny how his self-introduction is still word for word from one of his earliest videos to the fandom- shows how little he's changed. Signfiicant enough to add to the video's description? --Xavier orona 01:46, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

Billboard, events, and Heather
Chris mentions being on a billboard in New York. Do we have any pictures of that? Do we have any information at all about the previous events to lead up to this?? And is the Heather he spoke of "Wallflower". If so, I think it's note-worthy that we mention that he still says they were dating at one point when she has said before (multiple times) that they weren't. If it isn't Wallflower...we need to find out who the heck she is. --4Macie 22:15, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Yes, yes, and yes. And yes: Chris is delusional.--Henry Bemis 22:29, 6 August 2011 (PDT)


 * To answer your questions, Vans shoes had some promotion at the end of 2009 where people could submit photos that would go up on a billboard in Times Square. There were over 4 submitted of Chris by various trolls. The pics are probably somewhere, but I can't find them... Also, for the record, the Wallflower has a standing agreement with the CWCki not to be publicly identified. she shall be referred to only as the Wallflower, as we are true and honest, unlike Chris. --SargentPickles 22:45, 6 August 2011 (PDT)


 * I haven't gotten a chance to closely watch the videos, but how to handle the mention of the Wallflower is addressed here. Her name stays in the transcript but there's to be no linking and such. Also, the billboard images are here.--Champthom 23:23, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Ah, I apologize for my naivety on this matter. I feel that to keep the agreement with her, if it is necessary, this part of the talk (that violates the agreement) should be deleted. --4Macie 10:37, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Speaking of that, he's saying that they had dated (calling her his "ex-girlfriend" in the video). Would it be safer to go ahead and change her name to "The Wallflower"?--Blazer 18:41, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
 * So is linking from a Wallflower page (or from a Wallflower section of another page) to this page also verboten? --BrianBash 20:26, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
 * If you mean linking The Wallflower's real name or reference to her to The Wallflower page, then yes, that is forbidden. I'd say same goes with any modifier, like if we were to link "ex-girlfriend" to The Wallflower, pretty much anything that connects that person's name with the status of the Wallflower. Now personally, it's getting kinda silly because Chris keeps dropping her name BUT nonetheless we have an agreement to keep and we're not total jackasses. Her name should definitely remain in the transcript though, accurate transcription is crucial. --Champthom 04:57, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Spoiling the Fun
After seeing him demand money, I just had to respond to him directly. I sent him the following PM.

 On the threshold of legal trouble. >"But anyway, moving on with my demands, I would like- also like you to set to-send me via U.S. Mail, ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS CASH. American. Unmarked billssss,"

You do realize that Extortion is a crime. Doing so through the United States Postal Service crossing state lines makes it a federally prosecutable offense. You'd be wise to remove your "Calling Out" videos before they get mirrored and used against you in a court of law.   LordCustos3 09:36, 8 August 2011 (PDT)
 * User was banned for this post. --Anonymax 10:28, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Congratulations. You're one of many people being made fun of on /cwc/ at this precise moment. --Old meme 09:37, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Thorg = Thorgnzorrg
I'm pretty sure that Thorg is actually User:Thorgnzorrg. Can we mention it, for the sake of being good, clear and trustworthy source of informations of Chris' lifetime? Hasharin 13:31, 8 August 2011 (PDT)


 * Nah don't bother linking that, just make me a small page or something. --Thorgnzorrg

Calling Out Alex
Uh, I know this is silly to ask, but should we leave that he's used [censored] for this?--Blazer 16:12, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
 * You need to read Anonymax's 16:34, 6 August 2011 reply to the thread at the top of the page. Basically, don't go posting shit about alleged identities of trolls. As for the link to the pic, Imma cuttin it down. --BrianBash 16:28, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

Amazingly, he seems to be correct about the owner of the Game Place. I was expecting that Chris was likely to have fucked up and mixed him up with someone of a similar name and more or less committed slander in front of the world, but: http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=13957 and here's the information for the Game Place LLC in Virginia:

Unless there's another Robert C Lightburn in the area, Chris was right. Except that the guy was busted for porn possession, not molesting anyone.Robobobo 21:04, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

SurfShackTito (Don) Response?
There supposedly a response (well...a few actually) from Tito. The one I'm actually interested in (because the others really suck and pretty much scream fake) can be found here. Do we have any way to confirm or deny ANY of these supposed responses? --4Macie 21:29, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
 * That one's on the CWCVille Library. I'd be 99.99% sure that it's official.--Blazer 21:30, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

On the subject of the response video, should it be placed on this page? Certainly it seems like that would be beneficial in making the events covered by the article easier to follow for future readers. On the other hand, I feel a little apprehensive about putting a non-Chris video in the middle of this article. Perhaps the video could have its own separate page? Granted, I feel even more apprehension towards that idea, as I don't think we should get into the habit of making pages for videos other than Chris's. Of course, it's already posted on Surfshack Tito (troll), but if events led him to make several more videos then that page will quickly turn into a mess. Plus, in the future it might be difficult for readers to discern were in the timeline Tito's response video fits. --ThatMan 20:41, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

Thunderf00t
The photograph of Thorg is quite recognisable as being half of the face of Thunderf00t, a prominent figure on youtube who gained fame for his radical defense of-wait for it- atheism; making whole video series debunking creationist claims and even debating Richard Dawkins. Moreover, Thunderf00t DOES have a lot of acne scars. I don't know how it could have happened, but it seems clear to me that Chris has managed to confuse Thorg with a minor internet celebrity. Qeex

swing and a miss. Eamoo 12:26, 11 August 2011 (PDT)


 * Read the note from Anonymax at the top of this page; the one dated 16:34, 6 August 2011 (PDT). Srsly, this is the third time someone has had the same amazing revelation. This constant speculation compromises the CWCki and does not contribute towards the improvement of the article. ~ BrianBash 13:40, 11 August 2011 (PDT)

Bob Not Mentioned Specifically--Significant?
Chris doesn't really reference his father in any of these videos; despite having mentioned the family several times. When previous talking about his family, Chris almost always referred to Barb and Bob individually as "my mother and my father" (or some facsimile thereof). Could this possibly indicate Bob's demise? And in any case, would this note be worth adding anywhere? --IwegalBadnik 11:20, 11 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Well, the thing is is that Chris isn't too fond of his father and he's shown that in the past. More than likely, he's either ignoring him or he's forgetting him. And as bad as his train of thought it, I'd go more with the latter.--Blazer 12:21, 11 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Given the fact that Bob recently pulled the "Fag" card on Chris over his Tomgirl adventures, I will grant you that Bob probably isn't too popular with Chris. However, given that it is also known that Bob has malignant cancer, Chris may be being more than just forgetful or ignorant. --IwegalBadnik 12:55, 11 August 2011 (PDT)


 * He pulled the same thing in some Ivy related video. Also he mentions his 'family' to be left alone which I would expect implies more than one personNullity 14:28, 11 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Scanned the obituaries. Saw no record of Bob's death. There was a Barbara and a Robert, but they weren't Chris's parents.--T K 19 14:58, 11 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I guess Bob is weathering on as usual then. --IwegalBadnik 15:08, 11 August 2011 (PDT)

Piping
Seriously? Does there need to be that many fucking links to retarded shit in the transcripts?? You people act like just because Chris finally made a new video you have to pipe EVERY SINGLE word that can be relayed to a different page.. Its fucking ridiculous... Smtp 12:18, 11 August 2011 (PDT)
 * It's been a few months. Forgive us. Edit it out if you like.Nullity

Well
Guess Chris didn't want to wait till the 31st to release Thorg's information as he just released a video of the info. --KHSilverRock 11:01, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Someone behind the scenes?
This is just a future note. When we finally get the whole story on this incident (why he did it, who put him up to it, etc), will it be added to this article, or will another article be put in it's place? I think it's just something to think about because, from where I'm standing, someone has to be coaching him along. He even stated in the Jackie E-Mails 3 that, "even in a blackmail attempt, NONE of the Trolls would give a rat's ass on what each of their own kind looks like in real life." If he knew that back then, someone had to have changed his mind enough to do this.
 * TLDR; I really think we may need to break "Calling Out" videos into their own pages eventually. It might be easier to do sooner rather than later. --4Macie 07:14, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

We'll see how it pans out. Long articles with closely related content are not necessarily a bad thing. "Calling Out part 2" is also an option. --Anonymax 17:44, 15 August 2011 (PDT)

Take it before it gets pulled
Naturally it seems like Chris didn't learn his lesson with the Thorg video. I'd recommend those who run the CWCville Library get this before it gets pulled as well. --KHSilverRock 20:19, 16 August 2011 (PDT)
 * They got it, no worries . --4Macie 20:36, 16 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I think both CWCville Library's video got removed...damn. What now? (Someone needs to get it off Chris's before it too gets removed--4Macie 04:10, 17 August 2011 (PDT)
 * No, the Thorg video is still up on the CWCville Libary's account, but not Chris's, and the Jack Thaddus video is up on Chris's, but not the Libary's. I don't understand YouTube sometimes.  --KHSilverRock 10:09, 17 August 2011 (PDT)

Aug. 23, 2011 video removal
The links have gone bad cuz youtube deleted them already (within the first 2 hours, sad)...this is the third or forth video this happened to...Anyone know Youtube's policy on video removals before getting the ol' banhammer??? AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! Did anyone mirror these??? --4Macie 21:31, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
 * One more video down, and ChristianWChandler will likely go down in flames. --IwegalBadnik 21:33, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
 * The CWCville Library archives these just in case they get taken down, but even then, at times those are not safe since one of their videos got flagged. --KHSilverRock 08:35, 24 August 2011 (PDT)

Has it escaped Chris' viewers that flagging doesn't help?
The new Julay video was flagged down. To my knowledge, that will shut him off for 2 weeks--minimum. Plus, if the channel is suspended, the new channel will have to be hunted down. Seriously. >.< --IwegalBadnik 21:32, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
 * This is the same thing that happened concerning Flipnote Hatena - trolls wanted to be the next Clyde Cash/Jack Thaddeus/etc. and decided this was the best thing to do.
 * However, you have to also think of what he's doing, too. This isn't like some of his usual videos, he's actively attacking things one shouldn't in a public place. He's attacking Jack because of his views and he's attacking BlueSpike because of his condition. And didn't he lose the last video because of religion? So, yeah - it's like a major conflict of interest here: on one hand, you want the lulz to keep going. On the other hand, Chris is crossing too many lines, it's not funny.--Blazer 21:44, 23 August 2011 (PDT)


 * I understand the conflicts of interests, and you are indeed correct. All I am really saying is if it wasn't Joe Citizen on YouTube who flagged it down, but instead a troll (who is perhaps unknowingly) working against his own interests, that someone ask them (and others in general) to stop via a message from a popular source (i.e. CWCki, CWCvilleLibrary, etc.). --IwegalBadnik 22:01, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Is there any way to find out why a video was taken off youtube?? I guess what I'm asking is: Can we find out why Youtube removed a certain video so we can write it in the description of said video? Or is it all speculation based off of the video itself? --4Macie 21:50, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
 * My understanding is that what is given to the public is more vague than that of the poster's message. Unless Chris narrates on the incident, what exactly it went down for can only be speculated. --IwegalBadnik 22:03, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
 * All Youtube says is that it was a hate speech violation. --T K 19 22:15, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

Bluespike rant
I wanted to add that this may be the most "notable" (and I will always use that word very lightly when talking about CWC) of the Calling Out videos because he actually acknowledged the "JULAAAAY!" and "Ian Brandon Anderson" memes that the less competent trolls love parroting. --DawnDusk 19:29, 24 August 2011 (PDT)

Just a suggestion
You guys might want to add that protip about not flagging videos either to all the other videos, or somewhere at the top of the page and not just on the Bluespike video, and even while that might reduce trolls flagging his videos, if the common YouTuber does get offended, they still might get flagged. --KHSilverRock 19:52, 24 August 2011 (PDT)

Ahuviya's response
Ahuviya has apparently responded with two deviantART journal posts (not linking to them directly in case people want to have fun finding them, but people with some search skills should have no trouble finding them). Should they be put somewhere, or is it too early? (Since this is an epic battle between Jack Thaddeus and Chris, I might wait for Chris's official response to these, but still...) --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 01:11, 26 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Ahuviya also posted two video in response to Chris, to which Chris responded back. I think that from now on every Ahuviya vid which is related to this saga should be embedded to the CWCki. To anyone who's says "this wiki is about Chris, not Ahuviya": Chris has responded to it and therefore it deserves to be mentioned and embedded here, just like Liquid's videos can all be seen on the CWCki. Embedding it will provides context for Chris's vids. Thoughts anyone? - NegaCWC 10:39, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I don't know about embedding, but I wouldn't mind some links to them, perhaps in the description of the video. --Living the Dream 10:59, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I prefer embedding, as it is more user friendly. Suppose you were reading an article on one of the rounds in the SingStar Challenge; wouldn't you prefer to have both Chris's and Liquid's videos embedded to it (as it is now) rather than having to click on a link in order to view Liquid's vids? Regardless, I'm adding links to Ahuviya's video in the relevant parts of the article as a temporary solution since I think we can all agree they should be there. - NegaCWC 12:42, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Not to mention, Tito's response was embedded. I would assume for the sake of continuity and accessiblity Ahuvia's responses should be displayed as well. Tomgirl4life 13:11, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I agree that videos (and other messages) that Chris gives a True and Honest Response to should be put here. To get an actual response from the man himself is an achievement of epic proportions. I'm sure Ahuviya knows the old Communist saying: многие пробовают звать на Великий Директор Цендльер, но почти никто стать Избранный. (Many call upon the Great Director, but few are Chosen. ...sorry, I haven't written anything in Russian in over 10 years, and in school, I sucked almost as much as Chris does with Spanish, so that bit of wisdom might be more than a bit off. =). --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 13:35, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

Bluespike speech
When Chris starts mubling like a retard in the Calling out Bluespike I could be wrong, but it sounds like he's saying "Hello Ian, why is your name Brandon Anderson?"Ulron1 04:30, 26 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I interpret it slightly differently. "Hello Ian, why is your last name Brandon Anderson?" Kinda makes sense. Kinda. --MaxTehManyula 09:07, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

I just rewatched it and I think your version is right. Makes sense for Chris anyway.Ulron1 18:23, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Splitting the page up?
Am I the only person who thinks that this page is kind of a clusterfuck? If all of Chirs' Clyde blackmail videos got individual pages, I think these should, too. Either that or maybe a page for each subject, like a page for the Thorg calling out videos, one for the ADF one, and so on? --Kwippleton 10:50, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Yeah, when adding the new video I noticed how incredibly long it's getting, and there's no end in sight. I think breaking up the page and turning this into a disambiguation page would make the most sense. Freecell (t/c) 10:53, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Seconding this. It's really easy to get lost on this page, and in a perfect world we would already have individual pages for each of Chris's videos. --Groggers 11:22, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Third. It's too big now. --Dinglebear 11:27, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Fourth! This page should work like the Autism Tutorial page, with a main page summarizing the videos and links to separate pages for individual videos. --Elias 13:16, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Fifth. The whole thing looks like a clusterfuck of pipes right now. Griffintown 13:19, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

I don't have time just now, but if nobody does it before me I'll turn it into something like the Autism Tutorial page. Freecell (t/c) 13:20, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I'm working on it right now. I've never really edited wiki pages before, so someone should check them when I'm done to make sure I didn't mess anything up. Thanks. --Kwippleton 15:31, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Good move, only thing is that we should summarize each video, very briefly and obviously if people want details, they can go to the page. --Champthom 05:30, 30 August 2011 (PDT)
 * I thought of doing that, but I figured I'd leave it up to someone else who could do a better job. I also changed the links on the 2011 videos template to go to the right pages. I think everything should be good. --Kwippleton 06:44, 30 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Oh yeah, one other thing... where should ADF's videos be embedded? On the initial calling out video page, the re-calling page, or the response page? --Kwippleton 06:52, 30 August 2011 (PDT)

"Response to ADF"
Regarding the following lines of the transcription: "I am heterosexual, I am straight, and that's just the way I am! It's not a half-two situation, I've never seen it ev- rarely seen it that way, I have at one point, but guess what, I've seen the other viewpoints, and they did not treat de ne- did not fair to me as s- so much, they gross me- they mostly gross me out." Is it possible that the "half two" is actually "have-to"? As in, he doesn't have to do something? If so, might this be him responding to claims that he forces himself to be straight? And, following that, (when he says he saw it "that way") would this indicate that he HAS had to force straightness upon himself? Sonimax 13:52, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 * He could be saying "have-to". I wasn't exactly sure what he was saying so I wrote it down as I heard it, as little sense as it made. --Groggers 13:59, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

Template
We need to make a template of all the Calling Out videos. Srsly. --Champthom 05:44, 31 August 2011 (PDT)
 * Made one, I'll add it to the articles as soon as I can figure out if it's supposed to go above or below the succession template. Freecell (t/c) 06:03, 31 August 2011 (PDT)

BlueSpike Overlooked?
September 15 has passed, and to my knowledge, BlueSpike did not submit to Chris' demands and Chris has not called him--if you pardon the pun--on it. I know this is minor in the wake of Bob's death, but still... --IwegalBadnik 18:10, 19 September 2011 (PDT)
 * Note added. --Anonymax 18:19, 19 September 2011 (PDT)

Origin of the Calling Out Saga
How did this all start? By which I mean I gather that Chris was fed misleading information on Alec, Tito, Jack et al. in a similar way that Clyde's face became Guido but there's no mention of who or by what means this was done. Having the other lolcows fight with Chris was awesome to watch and ended a long period of hiatus from youtube. I think that this is a minor saga in its own right and should be expanded. I am also concerned that too many people new to CWCki actually believe that ADF is Jack and Fatman is Alec. I can see that this mistake has been corrected frequently in the forums. If someone could shed some light on how this happened I'd like to make a few edits to the appropriate pages. --Frucheman (talk) 02:13, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll find some info. Alan Pardew (talk) 14:07, 18 June 2014 (UTC)