Talk:Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)


 * Page created, need help on correcting the spelling on the title. --UJ1A1985 03:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Shit, I missed it... Does anyone save the original page before he blanked it? --SargentPickles 23:19, 19 April 2010 (EST)
 * He's using her pen name instead of her real name.--Blazer 03:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * SargentPickles, you can find a copy of the original in my user page /Sandbox. -Ronichu 03:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Typo
Should be "CWCipedia Page" instead of "CWCpedia Page"
 * I know, my error.--UJ1A1985 03:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Do we really need this?
I mean, this seems like it comes pretty close to violating the agreement. I know it's a Chris-Chan historical document, but it's not like we've mirrored every page on his website.--Beat 03:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no personal information on here, it's using her pen name and it IS a Chris-Chan dox. I think it should stay here.--Blazer 03:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * One solution I was going to propose is that we just not have an article for it, as we don't have an article for everything on CWCipedia at the time being. However, as Blazer said, it's now with her pen name which is more kosher and yeah. This is notable as Chris is beginning to write his own version of CWCki articles which is a significant development for Chris, as he's starting to delve into the CWCki. --Champthom 06:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to mention he's highly likely to heavily edit and remove pages relating to gal pals and his personal life after he realizes how retarded he was for putting them up in the first place.--Thorgnzorrg 11:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Something new for Chris and Remorse?
"But there was a Monkey in the works, and that was "Damien"'s Doing; SHE HAD TO HAVE A Facebook Page with her REAL NAME and LINKS to her FanFictions on it."

Oh, so it's her fault the trolls got her personal info. Chris couldn't possibly be to blame in the slightest.-trombonista 03:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Chris and remorse is virtually unchanged from the draft I posted ages ago. If there's one page that could use a serious overhaul, that's it.--Beat 03:40, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

"At a future Social Group Meeting, I (...) would have appreciated an apology." is even worse and made me rage for 15 minutes. --Derpalerp 13:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I spent about the same amount of time in the ANGRYDOME. -Ronichu 14:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I am re-reading the article and I have the feeling that Chris is a bigger sleaze that previously thought. Here's the part that makes my "Bull-Crap" sense tingling; he asked an apology from Wallflower for her insensibility in front of the "Social Group". If my hypothesis regarding the "Group" is true (It's a kinda informal group therapy), he exposed his grievances in front of the group in the hope they will became his "Personal Army" and force her back into a relationship with him. This is callous from him, especially if the said group is composed of people with low self-esteem and cognitive difficulties. If the group is also moderated by morons, I could expect the wallflower at the receiving end of peer pressure and this is disgusting. Any other thoughts on this? Griffintown 14:19, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I think that the hypothetical you proposed is probably what *Chris* thinks happened. Chris believes he is a flawless superhuman and can do no wrong; he probably thought this group of slow-in-the-minds would be easy to manipulate, much like how he thought the trolls were moustache wearing, cape twirling, cackling, cartoonish buffoons. He probably did exactly what you said, lying out of his arse, because it's basically his word against hers- especially if the new group didn't know him too well and tended to give socially awkward manchildren the benefit of the doubt. How well it might have worked is up for debate, but it's certainly something I can see within the realms of possibility. -Ronichu 14:46, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Griffintown, your hypothesis may be correct, but I believe the social group he is referring to is a youth group from either his church or another church that tolerates him. If my assumption is true, perhaps it is his belief that because his group is made up of fellow Christians, they are obligated to put up with his crap and forgive him for any and all of his shortcomings, as that's what "Jesus would have wanted". When he did not receive forgiveness from the wallflower (And she even ignored him further) he went from apologizing for his actions to blaming her for not wanting to have sex with a disgusting, retarded man-child. His ego cannot handle the fact that some half-assed apology is not enough to make up for psychologically scarring her. Anytime someone rejects his apology, Chris immediately flies into a rage and, in his mind, whatever transpired is no longer his fault --SargentPickles 11:11, 20 April 2010 (EST)
 * Of course he reacts that way. He is never apologizing because he accepts his guilt or wrongdoings - he is simply trying to get repercussions done with asap and without a big investment. He is probably already pissed because he actually has to take the effort and apologize - of course everyone should already have realized that he (Chris) is never to blame or guilty. So when you actually turn down his "apology" he immediately marks you as a troll and gets pissed because you dare to shove such stupid issues into a honest mans face. --Derpalerp 16:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This is the point that definite Chris; he thinks that his position is right regardless of what reality dictate. In the case of this article, he went as far as re-editing reality to fit his whims. As he said before on the Sonichu Forum, he got Friendzone'd at the end of January 2010. This means that this entire article is a blend of stalker fantasies (Massages, Kisses) and gross misrepresentations (The Social Group's activities seen as "Dates" and sharing a drinking straw as "Sharing DNA"). If the WallFlower present to him ANY form of apologies this vill validates the entire history of their relationship as written in this article. Yes, Chris is getting desperate. Another point; if SargentPickles's theory on the nature of the "Social Group" is true (Fellow Masochistic Christians), this might explain his lack of videos for the last few weeks. He might have talked to the group how he's "Internet Famous Without Leaving His Home" and was "encouraged" into quitting his habits. This explains why the video "F Abstinance" not only was taken down but went up in the first place; it's not the works of Rocky, it's the group's doings. Griffintown 20:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed Griffintown... Currently, Rocky is more or less Chris's only form of commonsense. Without her judgment, he would have probably had at least 5 new internet "girlfriends" by now, along with a slew of new humiliating pictures. The real question is if he can somehow find a way to alienate or piss of his only remaining social support: Given his racist, homophobic and downright obnoxious tendencies, I'm amazed he hasn't been kicked out yet. But I seriously doubt that his church will be able to put up with him forever... Is there any way he could possibly be kicked out of a Methodist church? --SargentPickles 17:38, 21 April 2010 (EST)
 * If there's a way, he will find it. Chris is a genius in finding a way to shove himself neck deep into trouble. Let's leave him some time, he will find a way to be kicked out and slapped with a restraining order. If we look at the whole WallFlower mess, do we really think she stayed silent over this? She's in the same circle than him, she might talk about this around. Soon, it will be "The Game Place" all over again. Griffintown 22:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm taking a long shot here, but is there any way that he could be coaxed into denying God? I'm not really sure he is a true follower. Deep down, he probably does think that he knows better than God. If we could get that out in the open, the church would call him out for it, he'd say sorry, he would obviously not be sorry, and he would prove that to them. They give up hope on him, he gets kicked out, he loses his support, and we have a defenseless manchild at our mercy. --Edward 21:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that Chris hates atheists as vehemently as he hates homosexuals, so that scenario is unlikely. Personally, I'm in support of MoarLurk's idea of having Alec write Sonichu 11. By doing this, Chris will be caught in a catch 22: either he obeys Rocky or he defends Sonichu's (and by proxy, his own) honor. Considering how self-centered he is, he will most likely go with the latter. Chris will come back onto the internet and rage about how Alec is stealing Sonichu from him, and this will also prove to Rocky that there is nothing she can do to change him. --BreadGod 22:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * A good idea. I'm wondering however, if we can get him kicked out for not accepting his other church members. His church is gay-affirming and probably has at least a few minorities in it. Considering Chris has more or less pissed on every single group that's different from him, I think that enlightening his fellow church members about his views will change their opinion on him drastically. All that needs to be done is for someone to hack his church's page and post a few videos of his homophobic and racist rants. Even Rocky has to have her limits, and perhaps if fellow congregation members start complaining to her or even leaving, she will be forced into taking action, and finally ban-hammer his ass --SargentPickles 18:12, 21 April 2010 (EST)
 * The limit for the Church will be reached for the same reasons why "The Game Place" banned his HFA-ass; his all-inclusive unpleasantness. Since we are talking about Masochistic Christians, it might take a little longer than usual but it will happen. This might be facilitated by trolls if they get access to more info regarding the "YASG". Nude pictures of Chris and recordings of his insanity might have an impact on the more "sensible" members of the group. Griffintown 22:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It almost seems to be getting to the stage we should have a "Chris and Apologising" page, based on how many he's done and how pathetically false they all are. He seems to view apologies in the way a little kid does. You do something wrong, the teacher tells you to apologise and you can play with the blocks again. - Borednewb 02:46, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Chris and remorse is actually supposed to cover that, It's just nobody updates it and it kinda needs a rewrite.--Beat 22:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sometime this weekened I may look into the page, then. If nothing else, include an up to date list of all the time Chris has apologised, along with evidence for every one that it's disingenuine. -- Borednewb 00:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I think that, while hacking a church page to tell them about Chris may not be the noblest thing we've ever done, I think we should take all necessary measures to get Chris out of there. Not just for us, but everyone else too. He's taken advantage of them before, trying to make a personal army out of a church congregation, hes expressed desire to rape Rocky and he doesn't even respect the customs of the religion. I say we go with that. Get up Twin Falling towers, Chris drops the n bomb, all his homo rants and sex videos and most of all, make sure you get the video where he tells God to kill Jason Kendrick Howell. --Edward 22:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's it. We have nothing to do but revealing to them the true nature about Chris. Soon, they will discover that their "Pity-Pet" loves to shit on the carpet. Griffintown 22:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hacking the website isn't going to work--we've flooded the inbox with all the nudes we have a billion times, and the only result was "WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING OUR MEMBERS DO". These people aren't really Christian(by my definition), they're just idiots who adhere to the parts of Christianity they feel they can pull off without inconveniencing themselves.  What Chris goes to every sunday is in fact a meeting of smug idiots who like to talk about how much more tolerant they are than other Christians--it is the defining feature of their church.  I don't believe they think it's about God, Jesus, or living their lives according to what either of them said(or at least as close as they humanly can), I think they think it's about one-upping the evil intolerant fundies(who of course are all clones of Michael Phelps).  Chris used to be around a real church--the moment he tried to PA the congregation by linking the pastor to ED, he got booted out--this tells me the pastor had common sense and didn't take shit from anyone.  He's been trying to do the exact same thing at his new church and he's still there because, "Oh look, that poor, retarded, homophobic, racist, insensitive, smelly man.  Let's take him in to show everyone how tolerant and accepting we are!  Oh, that stuff he did?  Uh...TOTALLY NOT OUR FAULT BY THE WAY DID WE MENTION HOW ACCEPTING AND TOLERANT WE ARE?".  It's right on their front page, too--"WE ARE A PLACE FOR ALL OF GOD'S CHILDREN, REGARDLESS OF ORIENTATION/SEX/RACE".  That's them boasting about how tolerant they are.  The only way Chris is going to get kicked out is if we can conclusively prove to enough members of YASG or Rocky(who may in fact run the group) that Chris is beyond hope and not worthy of pity, and that would necessitate the utter destruction of their moral foundation.  It's probably possible to get him out of the church, but I can't think of anything at the moment.
 * While I find Chris's abuse of my religion as his most disgusting trait, I really don't see how vandalizing his Church's homepage will help matters. He'll just cry and say that the trolls are twisting his words and that he was stressed when he did those things.  They'll all see though his bullshit, especially if they check the dates the N-bomb and Jew-wiretapping videos were put up, but it'll be overshadowed by the fact that a bunch of slanderous trolls defaced their webspace.  There has to be a way to white-knight his congregation, but that's not it.--Beat 22:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I just remembered what the Church had written on his homepage regarding the "Web-Presence" of some of their members. I guess that vandalism will make them close their ranks. If we knew more about the "YASG", we could make bad publicity for them. We could find a way to pass the word that the group is accepting the presence of a racist homophobe in their ranks. This being said, at the nano-second their DOX will be known, EDiots will flood them with pictures of Chris in his mother's underwear. Kinda counterproductive. Griffintown 22:57, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we have a duty to fullfill. Chris should not be around these people for any reason. He is hurting them, hurting himself, and we now have a full group who may just be manipulable enough to end up joining Chris, willingly or otherwise. These people need their saviours; The Internet. We must get through to them about Christian's true nature. He is a menace to everyone around him, and the longer he stays there, the more chance there will be of a third Megan case arising. I don't want to see what happened to the Wallflower happen to anyone else. Now that I have said that, Griffin and Beat are right. Maybe vandalising their page will not get our message across. We need to smoke Chris out of there. If we can get the Dox of at least one of the members, then we can send round information to each of them. Turn them against him. One by one. If we privately contact them individually and tell them about him slowly and calmly, then maybe we can coax them into sorting out the situation themselves. --Edward 00:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If I got letters from someone I didn't know telling me that the loser weirdo who went to my church was, in fact, a loser weirdo I would probably just be creeped out that someone actually sought out my personal e-mail address to tell me that.--Beat 00:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that by now rumours are probably spreading about what Chris is like in the congregation. Chris doesn't understand the difference between tolerance of his creepiness and acceptance, chances are all the church does is tolerate him out of some refusal to turn away anyone. You can throw at them proof of Chris' creepiness all you want, if they haven't kicked him out yet, they probably won't for anything short of a criminal offense against the church itself. -- Borednewb 00:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * True, but remember, The church is supposed to be a safe-haven for ALL of its members, not just messed up, inbred retards. I'm guessing their has to be a few homosexuals that frequent regularly. Chances are, they might put up with Chris because he's retarded and they think he doesn't know any better. But, if one of the more aggressive gay's were to butt heads with Chris, it would all be over. I believe that upon seeing the true nature of what a waste of life he is, even Rocky would believe even god can make mistakes. It's for her own good that she should give up on him, otherwise he's just gonna drive her to an early grave. If we had someone near his church, it would just be a matter of placing a few well placed fliers advertising his views: Even if he wasn't banned, he would never get a warm reception there again --SargentPickles 20:43, 21 April 2010 (EST)
 * Also keep in mind though, that we don't know how much Rocky and the church know of his online activities and how much credibility she puts to them. We can assume they know of the ED page. But if you just casually read that page, none of it seems very real. The stuff about him drinking his own semen and stuff is not given proper coverage on there. They may think its just the internet bullies lying again. For all we know, they would have kicked him out, but they didn't believe such sources because they just don't sound credible. If we up our offensive and actually show them evidence of the crazy shit we claim he does, then they may be swayed to our side a bit more. Rocky may be particularly intrested in the things involving her, such as Christian's fantasies of raping her. --Edward 00:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * don't bother, rocky will always take chris's side over anyone else's. forget it. don't give her more reason to join chris's side. Clydec 01:07, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Rename
Chris has removed personal references to The Wallflower's real name, in favor of her pen name. As precedence, we've mentioned her pen name else where and it's not quite as bad as her real name, though obviously someone could find her real name.

The wisest minds of CWCki (Clyde, Cogs, and myself) have agreed to rename this article to her pen name, but I have ruled that I will leave it up to you, the CWCki users to decide how we should handle this.

So I'm opening this up for discussion for renaming and vote whether we should rename it or not. --Champthom 03:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Pen name's alright by me, seems like a decent compromise. At this point it's a finger-in-the-dike kind of situation, trying to totally hide her identity is becoming more than faintly silly. Dkaien 03:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * As Christorians, I think we should try to be as close to verbatim as possible, to be honest. I don't know if it's the best idea overall, but I think we owe it to the CWCki to do it. And gawd knows I love the CWCki like a child. --YawningSquirtleRedux 03:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm good with the pen name over the current name. I think what Dkaien and YawningSquirtleRedux said pretty much sums up what I could.--Blazer 03:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd rather not use her pen name, but it's right there on the wallflower main page so why not.--Beat 04:00, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Let's roll with the pen name. There's a precedent with this video. Chris is bloody insisting on naming her, there's very little things we can do. This is a situation that should had been resolved IRL between the lady and the Man-Child. As Christorians, we have very little leeway on this and we are duty-bound to record Chris's pathetic existence in minute details. So I respectfully add my voice to those who have eloquently supported the use of the pen name. Griffintown 04:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * So shall it be written, so shall it be done, given the overwhelming consensus thus far. As I view it, anyone who is going to see this article is going to have seen Chris's original article on the CWCipedia and I would argue that more people view the CWCipedia than the CWCki. Cogs has considered liberalizing our usage of Wallflower's name, given that Chris keeps dropping it while Clyde wants a more hardline response while I believe we should avoid using it unless Chris himself uses it (see Ronichu's suggested policy on the Wallflower main page). Ultimately, Wallflower has entered into trolling culture as shorthand for her name and there's been a taboo associated with mentioning her real name in the same way it's taboo to bring up Megan as a subject of trolling or contacting. --Champthom 04:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Not at all constructive, but just to get it off my chest, I'd like to say that this entire situation is so fucking weird. This fucking internet, I swear, sometimes... Incidentally, as the author of the "heir to Megan Schroeder" line I wrote Chris an e-mail trying to explain what I meant by it. We'll see if he writes back. Dkaien 04:17, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

You're All So Terrible!
Everyone here is so heartless and cruel. Never do you guys stop to think about the great pain and suffering that Chris has had to endure. He had heartaches for 2 whole weeks! How would you all like to have you're Heart Levels shattered to 15-20% !? That's right, I'm sure you wouldn't. Now all of you should do the right thing and leave this beautiful, gracious, and talented man alone! --Alcoholic Legend 04:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Fuck you, you troll. We don't like your kind here. OUT. Or I'll banhammer you myself.--YawningSquirtleRedux 04:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Sarcasm, sometimes it just doesn't fit the occasion. Griffintown 04:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, guess it came on a little strong there. : ) --Alcoholic Legend 04:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Mumble VI already broke my heart level down to 11%, while TWICE listening to Julie and Chris fap in Mumble III raped my heart level down to 4%. There's nothing DONE TO ME THAT MUMBLE 3 HAS NOT ALREADY DONE. -Ronichu 07:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ronichu, you do this, and I will personally campaign to have you instated as some sort of god. At the very least, the order of the Pickle. Above and beyond my friend. --YawningSquirtleRedux 08:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Expect a big push on Mumble 6 (a'la Mumble 3) either tomorrow or this weekend. -Ronichu 11:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Fun happenings on the CWCipedia.
So Daria deleted the copypasta version of our article, and Chris reverted it. I'm about half sure this is mostly just his "Don't change shit without my say-so!" mentality, but he obviously still wants out version around.

One has to wonder why.--Beat 22:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)