Talk:CWCville

Stupid Fanshit
There's a lot of info in this article that is speculative, or worse, retarded shit that has the malodorous stink of fanfiction to it. This article needs some serious work to keep it from getting fagged up too bad. DrShoggoth 19:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * You're right. The TRUE and HONEST reporting on one retard's imaginary world is serious business. --Sonijew is back 21:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * It is on the CWCki DrShoggoth 22:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * lol. --Sonijew is back 22:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

To do

 * images of CWCville from comic
 * Chris's description of CWCville with "an average amount of cool places to hang out at."
 * BlueSpike, fuckups aside, you got him to say my cousin BILLY is mayor of CWCville. Objections to the rest aside, that's fucking hilarious. William Maize 07:29, 4 March 2009 (CET)

Who will lead?
Since Liquid Chris was kipnapped by Solid, I was wondering who will be the next TRUE and HONEST mayor of CWCville? Are we just going to let that manchild back in office after how he disposed of BILLY MAYS and his own counterpart? --EdtheHedgehog1894

LEX LUTHOR FOR MAYOR OF CWCVILLE! He was the president of the US at one time (See Superman/Batman: Public Enemies]] ), maybe he can use Metahumans to wipe out all Sonichus and Rosechus! --UJ1985
 * Liquid's back, so nevermind. Still, who'd be a good canidate if he were to resign his postition? --EdtheHedgehog1894

Nazi Germany's anti-tobacco movement
I think it would be nice to compare Chris to Hitler in his anti-tobacco policies.  --The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex 17:12, 18 November 2009 (CET)
 * Agreed. But I believe Chris' other similarities to Hitler should also be noted (e.i. the outlawing of homosexuality, Chris' iron-fisted rule over CWCville, Etc.)  --EdtheHedgehog1894 1:03, 19 November 2009 (CEST)
 * Didn't they both rage when their art wasn't given the recognition they thought it deserved? And Hitler did Disney fanart (thx /cwc/ omg lol! =^_^=). Except Hitler was actually good at doing landscapes IIRC. --Anaconda 07:51, 19 November 2009 (CET)
 * "After dropping out of high school in 1905 at age sixteen, Adolf Hitler spent the next few years in brooding idleness. His indulgent mother patiently urged him to learn a trade or get a job. But to young Hitler, the idea of daily work with its necessary submission to authority was revolting.

With his father now dead, there was no one who could tell young Hitler what to do, so he did exactly as he pleased. He spent his time wandering around the city of Linz, Austria, visiting museums, attending the opera, and sitting by the Danube River dreaming of becoming a great artist.

Hitler liked to sleep late then go out in the afternoon, often dressed like a young gentleman of leisure and even carried a fancy little ivory cane. When he returned home, he would stay up well past midnight reading and drawing.

He would later describe these teenage years free from responsibility as the happiest time of his life.

His only friend was with another young dreamer named August Kubizek, who wanted to be a great musician. They met at the opera in Linz. Kubizek found Hitler fascinating and a friendship quickly developed. Kubizek turned out to be a patient listener. He was a good audience for Hitler, who often rambled for hours about his hopes and dreams. Sometimes Hitler even gave speeches complete with wild hand gestures to his audience of one.

Kubizek later described Hitler's personality as "violent and high strung." Hitler would only tolerate approval from his friend and could not stand to be corrected, a personality trait he had shown in high school and as a younger boy as well.

Young Hitler did not have a girlfriend. But he did have an obsessive interest in a young blond named Stephanie. He would stare at her as she walked by and sometimes followed her. He wrote her many love poems. But he never delivered the poems or worked up the nerve to introduce himself, preferring to keep her in his fantasies. He told his friend Kubizek he was able to communicate with her by intuition and that she was even aware of his thoughts and had great admiration for him. He was also deeply jealous of any attention she showed to other young men.

In reality, she had no idea Hitler had any interest in her. Years later, when told of the interest of her now-famous secret admirer, she expressed complete surprise, although she remembered getting one weird unsigned letter.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/art.htm

o_o --Anaconda 08:02, 19 November 2009 (CET)


 * Holy fucking shit. Well, hopefully Chris will forever remain the apathetic slug that he is and never venture into politics. Glorious Tentacularity 08:07, 19 November 2009 (CET)
 * Maybe a rejection letter from Art Instruction Schools would inspire him. --Anaconda 08:16, 19 November 2009 (CET)
 * Funny you mention that, I've been wanting to see Chris draw Tippy the Turtle and Pete the Pirate for that place, and see if he'd still get in. --Champthom 07:04, 8 December 2009 (CET)

Official website
http://www.onetruecwcville.net/index.php --Sonijew 00:04, 21 November 2009 (CET)

Wes Iseli
There's a comment about how the police do nothing since Wes Iseli is able to ruin weddings. Yet didn't that wedding take place in "our" world since Sarah was there? I realize this is hard to argue given that "consistency" is a foreign concept to Chris but I'm guessing that the wedding takes place in our world and it just so happens that Sonichus and that Chris, Sarah, and Wes can turn into Sonichus and shit because they have those medallions and whatnot. Thoughts? If it's the case that it's taking place in our world, then we need to revise that sentence. Perhaps about how Mary Lee Walsh is able to do shit?--Champthom 07:04, 8 December 2009 (CET)

climate
Considering that it has jungles, volcanoes, temperate forests, the temperature differences of the Appalachian foothills between seasons, and is situated right next to the ocean, the bizarre, hellish climate of CWCville needs mentioned, I think.
 * Agreed. --EdtheHedgehog1894
 * I made the Zapbud's description seem more like a invasive weed, could someone make a better pic of what a Zapbud might look like IRL? I'm sorry but as a plant lover I can't believe Chrissy has managed to fuck up plants.Pikimon 18:48, 24 December 2009 (CET)
 * Sonichu Remake has a re-imagining of zapbuds. Would cropping the corner of [[Media:SCRM -0-06.jpg|this image]] work? I might add it myself later, if I can figure out how to without destroying the rest of the article. --Fenny, who sucks at wiki.
 * Awesome!--0_o wat o_0 02:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

CWCville Law
Do we know enough to create a new section on CWCville's legal system/legislation? I'll probably be looking into that soon. - Liquid! 21:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Oceania?
Ok, I'm in the process of reading the book and I gotta say that CWCville is disturbingly similar to Air Strip One (London) from George Orwell's 1984, even though it's obvious someone along the lines of Chris would have probably never even heard of the book. However, here's a few notable similarities:


 * All records and marks of past ruler are not only undone but actively denied, such as MAYS' reign or whatever happened in RFCville.
 * Purposefully contradictory statements are issued by the central authority.
 * Ludicrously high military presence.
 * Oppressive police state where inane things like tobacco or alcohol are regarded as capital crimes, whereas soliciting sex is mostly ignored.
 * Demonization of a single person other than a whole set of ideals, and the worshipping of the leader.
 * CWCville looks like shit.
 * Individual favored citizens shown as a role model.
 * Almost no contact with the outside world even within its own country.
 * No industrialization, nor a wish for industrialization, unlike other totalitarisms like NK or the USSR.
 * And everybody thinks the town is allright. Everyone is presumably too stupid to question their situation.

As an additional bit, Airstrip One is geographically in the same supernation as CWCville, that also happens to span over the United States. It was founded in 1982, which is only 2 years off the mark. Heinkel 00:18, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest, a lot of that is just either made up (like the MAYS' reign) or exaggerated (military presence), but yes, CWCville IS a craphole. Chris likes to bring it up like it's the greatest place on Earth, but when the cards are all laid out, you can see that things indeed do suck. I dunno if it's in the same vein as Oceania, though.--Blazer 00:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Nope. "Oppressive police state where inane things like tobacco or alcohol are regarded as capital crimes, whereas soliciting sex is mostly ignored." - Actually, any sex without state permission is a crime in 1984. Also, the Anti-Sexual League. "No industrialization, nor a wish for industrialization, unlike other totalitarisms like NK or the USSR." - Oceania is industrialized alright, where do you think they're producing all the ballistic missiles they're launching at "the enemy" (btw animu). "And everybody thinks the town is allright. Everyone is presumably too stupid to question their situation." - In 1984 they're not "stupid", the population is at once terrorized and brainwashed. --Sonijew is back 10:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Norsefire?
CWCville's reign is eerily reminiscent of the Norsefire party's leader Adam Susan's personality and policies in the comic book V For Vendetta.


 * Both leaders are virgins


 * Both leaders have an inner sanctum, free of human contact and emotion


 * Both leaders are manipulated through the computer and deluded into thinking they have found love, when they have just been trolled.


 * Both have a fierce anti-gay stance


 * both leaders despise anyone who isn't white, christian, and heterosexual

HOLY SHIT!!! CHRIS IS ADAM SUSAN!!!--Dan Dash 20:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh moar liek a combination between Big Brother, Hitler and Adam Susan if you ask me... --EdtheHedgehog1894 18:09, 28 April 2010 (EST)
 * I've seen parts of that movie on FX, but I believe my theory is that it's more reminiscent of an Justice League episoded titled, Legends (See below for my theory.)--UJ1A1985 02:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The movie version is completely different. Susan is less pathetic in the movie, so if you only saw the movie you won't get the connection.--Dan Dash 20:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Something's Popped Up
I noticed something odd about CWCville, my theory is that a city where Chris controls everything, is simular to an episode of "Justice League" (yes I admit, I like that show.). In the episode titled. "Legends", The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, and Martian Manhunter were transported on accident after a battle to an alternate Earth where that Earth was destroyed after nuclear war. That Earth was remade by a boy who mutated and gained powers to recreate it under his image (he worshiped a team of heroes named the justice Guild of America, which is a nod to the Justice Society of America.) Can CWCville be a ripoff of that Justice League ep? --UJ1A1985 07:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I wish Sonichu would end like that episode did. But no--CWCville is an object of his own creation.  Chris was no doubt bullied a lot, and he envies authority.  Note that he also went on anti-depressants during high school, suggesting that he was under a lot of stress.  Around that time, CWCville came into being as the result of a minor power fantasy where Chris wished he was the mayor of a fictional city and free to do whatever he wanted.--MoarLurk 07:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Prozac is certainly to blame for some of his delusions, but definitely not the utter shittiness of CWCville. That would be his own fucked up ego.--Dan Dash 20:30, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

CWCville is a stolen idea as well:
http://www.amazon.com/Urville-Gilles-Trehin/dp/1843104199

Seems odd both come from autism. I think Chris stumbled upon this man's work one day while researching how smart he was and figured it'd be a great way to show people his 'genius.'
 * I think it is more linked to autism instead of Chris's deliberate attempt to steal something. On the other side, it gives us a yardstick to measure how HFA Chris really is. Griffintown 12:55, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Chris drew a lot of "Maps" in the early issues of Sonichu, but I guess it's not really clear if CWCville actually has a plan in Chirs's mind other than "An awesome place where everybody loves me". Still, I think it's worth mentioning in the article.--Beat 20:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Dead link
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 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyevn2-MU7I
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--Anonymax 01:00, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

Fascism in CWCville
Alright, at the suggestion of AniMerrill (http://cwckiforums.com/members/animerrill.3132/), I've decided to post this topic in this talk page.

Something I've noticed that is lacking from the page on CWCville is a thorough analysis of the government of CWCville. I made a thread some time ago on the forums (http://cwckiforums.com/threads/fascism-and-autocracy-in-relation-to-chriss-rule-of-cwcville.3833/) where I went through the wiki and tried to discern as much information about the government as possible. The conclusion I came to was that CWCville was a fascist police state. In retrospect, I don't think the list I made is particularly good considering that it lacks citations and is speculative at times. Regardless, I thought an in-depth section on the nature of the CWCville government would make for an intriguing addition to the page.

My motivation for wanting to add this topic is that there's never really been a good, comprehensive assessment of the government before. You see vague statements on some of the pages on the CWCki regarding CWCville being a dystopia but never a good explanation for that. So how does that sound? Good? Unbearably redundant? Feedback would be appreciated!


 * I think the article already addresses, indirectly, these issues; look at the header image! Chris's status as the unelected mayor-for-life and the operations of his not-so-secret police showcase CWCville's fascism, and making this implicit joke explicit would be, in your words, unbearably redundant. --Cumlord supreme (talk) 04:32, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The proper term is 'director', thank you very much. Anyway, if you think it would be a quality edit, go for it, or if you're really up for it, think about creating a new section for CWCville/politics.
 * Neat. Thanks for the confirmation! -Konstantinos