Kacey Call 4

28 August 2009

"In other cultures, you would not survive."

- Kacey

Summary

 * Chris begins the call by asking Kacey if she has an STD.
 * Kacey received a lot of awards during her high school graduation. Chris is jealous.
 * Chris suggests talking about political issues even though he has nothing to say about political issues.
 * Kacey asks Chris about things she found on the ED page.
 * Chris totally doesn't drink cum anymore, he definitely doesn't shit himself anymore, and he certainly isn't gullible anymore.
 * Chris lies and says the last time he shat himself was THREE YEARS AGO.
 * Chris tries to explain why he has so many fucking video game accounts.
 * Chris whines that he only gets 200 out of his 800 a month, and spends 150 on video games.
 * Chris was going to call someone about getting a job, "but then stress happened."
 * Chris used credit cards to buy thousands of video games, parents are paying the bills.
 * Chris doesn't know why he got a CADD degree, "I feel more comfortable with drawing da comics than with da buildings and da computers."
 * Chris is sending printed-out Sonichu comics to Marvel, DC and Dark Horse; thinks they will hire him because he's "very popular."
 * Mary Lee Walsh caused all of his problems.
 * Chris is capable of surviving, cooking and doing laundry.
 * Chris can't look for a job on the internet because he "doesn't know what to put into a search term."
 * Kacey says Sonichu is fanfiction. Chris says it's parody.
 * Chris lies that he'll look for a job where he works 10 hours a week, Kacey wants him to work 20, eventually he says okay to shut her up.
 * Kacey tells him not to wear his medallion to the job interview and not to draw on the applications; Chris sadly agrees that he won't.
 * Chris thanks Kacey for yelling at him.

Transcript
Chris: Hello-o?

Kacey: Hi! It's Kacey!

Chris: Hey Kacey! How are you?

Kacey: I'm good. Um, how are you? Um, are you doing better?

Chris: Yeah, I'm feeling better, thank you. I was waiting for you to call me.

Kacey: Well, you just said around 11 to 11:30, so I gave you a few extra, you know, minutes just in case.

Chris: I see. Yeah, I know, that's cool. I appreciate that. But it's like, you know. Yeah, I mean, I mean no hurry, but I mean, like, you know. I was waiting for the pleasure of talking to you.

Kacey: Oh, uh, thank you. [nervous laugh]

Chris: Yeah, so uh, okay, let me go and get my main questions I had written down in my little notebook out of the way. Um...

Kacey: Oh, you have questions? Yeah, go ahead and ask them.

Chris: Yeah. Okay, this is an important one. You don't have any STDs, do you?

Kacey: Chris, why would you ask me that?! Of course I don't!

Chris: Okay, I'm sorry, I just-

Kacey: [interrupts] I mean, you know I've only been with one person!

Chris: Yeah, well, I mean, I just felt like I just had to ask anyway.

Kacey: O...okay, that's just... WOW!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't up...[unintelligible] that wasn't a very good opening topic, I know, I'm sorry. It's just the first one I had on my thing here.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, well I hope the rest of the questions aren't that bad!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Uh, no, yeah well here, here, we'll do a 180 right here, um, yeah, let's, I think we talked about your education background a little bit, you, uh, you said you had honor roll grades back in high school?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Yes, I was 4.0 all the way.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Well that's good. Yeah, you got your diploma and all. Um, okay, did you, uh, ever get any, uh, awards? Um, like, you know right before graduation?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Um, yeah, like, um, I actually had a couple poems published, and um, I actually graduated with way more credits than I needed so I got a merit certificate.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [enthralled] You got a merit certificate?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Yes.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hmm. Tell me about that, what does that do for you?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Oh, it just goes with your diploma, it just shows that you did way more than you needed to do- so, I got that, and you know, and I did like over 200 hours of community service, so, I got...It's just, it's just something that you...it doesn't really do anything, I mean, awards in high school are nothing, I mean, they don't really help you ever in your life.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hmm. Yeah, but it's like, you know the achievement, it just makes you feel better, you know, I wish I would've gotten an award for my creativity back in high school.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I mean, I guess, but high school really doesn't do anything for you so it's not a big deal.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Uh, it does a lot more than you, does a lot more than you think though, you know, I mean it, it's like, uh, it definitely readies you a little more for the adult life, that you're gonna be leaving high school FOR.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Yeah, but I mean nobody cares, they look at college all the time, college is way bigger of a deal.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, it is a big deal. I hear that.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Um, so, any other questions?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Well, okay well yeah, we'll move onto the next one...hmm...yeah...Oh yeah, um, what's yo-,...uh, you drew, you drew your original Kacey in green ink, uh, it's that like, uh, gel ink?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Um, yeah, it is a gel pen actually, it's just one of the pens I use...for work.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Oh, okay, you generally use a green ink pen, oh, that's...that's interesting.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Yeah, I like to use different colors.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hm. [pause] All colors of the rainbow, right?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [laughs] Yeah, definitely.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hmm, now there's my colorful gal.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [laughs] Well, Chris, remember, I'm just your friend.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, I know, I'm just saying, you know, I'm just trying to be creati-, be clever.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [laughs] Okay, well, um, keep going with questions.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, hmm, do you like Sudoku? Doin' those Sudoku puzzles in the paper?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: No, I actually don't like Sudoku, I'm really big into logic puzzles but I've never gotten into Sudoku, I don't like it.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Well that's too bad. It's more on logic though, I mean, you know, you basically just put one through nine in the one box, and then divide compared to the other boxes, the whole big nine box...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Right, I know what it is, I just don't like it.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hmm, yeah, okay, well generally...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [interrupts] I'm more of a science person than a math person.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hmm, 'kay well you know you don't need math. I mean, it's like, okay, similarly you could do like Sudoku with like, the letters A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I. You could do letters A through I.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I guess, but I mean, I just really don't like it, so if we could move on to the next question, that'd be awesome.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Well, okay. What's your favorite board game?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Um, my favorite board game? Um, I haven't really played any in a long time, actually, so I mean...

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, out of all the board games you've played?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Um, well the last thing I played was.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Catan? [Kacey: "Yes."] I've never heard of that one.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Oh, you should look it up, you should Google it, it's a really awesome game.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, is that spelled with a K?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Um, no, it's C-A-T-A-N.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Oh, KAY-tawn, okay.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Kuh-TAHN.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, alright...so my favorite board game yet...I got a little bit into Monopoly, but, I don't...yeah, I mean I can call it like my second favorite board game, um, [incoherent stammering] yeah, I guess, and plus, I mean, I have the original Sega Genesis cartridge, and you know, every once in a while I would play that, and I would beat the computer! [He seems proud of this.]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Oh, okay, cool...well, um, go ahead and keep going with the questions.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay. Alright, well here's a fun one for you you might like. Did you have a favorite toy growing up?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: A favorite toy? Um, yeah, my Easy-Bake Oven.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Your Easy-Bake Oven?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Yeah, I loved that Easy-Bake Oven.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hah. Yeah, I can understand, I can understand that. Hah. Make the little small things with the little light bulb, it's fun. Uh, my favorite toy is this little uh Fisher Price Transformer, it was like, you know, my first Transformer, so it's like, uh, it's a little red Indy racecar, that transforms into a robot, you actually gotta pop the guy's head in for the full transformation. [pause] So I was...yeah...yeah, you'd have to see it to pretty much get it, but...I mean, if you look it up, look it up on the internet, I'm sure you can find pictures, yeah. It's a little, little red Indy racecar.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, Fisher Price...hmm...Oh, and something else, I think, I feel like I can probably make you feel comfortable with, talkin' about, we can talk about some of your, uh, favorite pa-, pa-litickal issues, or we can talk about your favorite episodes of House or The Office, and then uh, I'll just listen, and take it all in, and learn about you more as a friend, you know?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, well, um, let's do polla...politic issues, why don't you start?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Alright...heh...why don't I start. I mean, you know more about politics than I do...uh...[pause, then frustrated sigh] I'm trying anyway, I'm trying to come up with a good political topic in my head right now.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well, if you can't, I mean do you have any other questions?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I mean, I just thought, you know...Okay, what's the most recent political thing that's, uh, you know, on your mind, now, at this point?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Um, probably health care, cause, you know, that's what I'm going to be doing.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Oh, that's right, you're, uh, you're...[stammers] you're working towards getting your nurse degree. Out there.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Yup.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, um, we talked about that a little bit before... hmm...Yeah, let's see if I remember...yeah, I think you kind of agreed with me, with I said like, yeah...not everyone can afford healthcare, it's like you know... assist... and then yeah. Oh, yeah, you were... [Kacey starts talking over him]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Actually, Chris, I think you agreed with ME, because you didn't even know about reformed healthcare, you just knew about socialist healthcare.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hm. Yeah, that's true, I did, I did agree with you. And then you kind of agreed with you know, when I was talking about, about my father and me going down to Tom Perriello's office, and then he brought that up...but yeah, I was like agreeing with him at the time as well, but, yeah and then you, then when you talked, you kind of agreed with him a little bit too.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Right....Well do you have any other questions? Cause there's something on my mind that I really need to, talk to you about.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Oh! We could talk about that. What's up?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, um, so you know all these trolls have been bothering me, right?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Oh, yeah.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: So I was talking to my aunt about it, she's a nurse too, and...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: ...you know she got really suspicious. And, um, she Googled your name, and you know, some of the things that the trolls have been saying, I mean, I think they might be true, I mean what is, you know, it's disturbing, and it's making me really uneasy especially since, you know, you've said you think about me to such a degree, and I mean, it's just like...I mean, I know you've talked about the ED site before, but I mean, is a lot of that true? Like, uh, why are you doing half those things in those videos? And, I thought you were anti-gay, and you're drinking your own cum?? It's gross! And it's just...it's bothering me!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, okay yeah, that is a whole bunch of skeletons, that is a whole bunch of skeletons in my closet.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But I mean, why would you do that?! Do they make you do that?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Uh, no...As for the uh...yeah...I pretty much volunteered myself to be doing that, cause it was like, you know, I considered it like recycling, so it's like, you know, I didn't have to lose it...and plus you know I read on the internet there was like health benefits [unintelligible]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Health benefits of what, of doing that?!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: There's, there's no real health benefits, those are all myths, I mean it doesn't help your hair, it doesn't help your nails, there's not enough protein in it. I mean, is that the whole reason you did it?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Anyway, anyway, I've stopped, anyway, I've stopped doing that months ago.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well that's GOOD, but, I mean, there's no point in doing it. I mean...I...I...I mean especially not if you were so anti-gay. I mean, it's just, I mean most people would see that and go, "Wow, this guy must be at least bisexual!"

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [sigh] Yeah, okay yeah, I can definitely see it from your point of view and I understand. [sigh] Yeah, but I take it like... you know...I learn from my mistakes, and...yeah... I've grown to the understanding and whatnot. Um, anyway, mostly other stuff like you know the posts...and the videos, and me drawing, you know, drawin' on my dick, and pictures of that, yeah...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay well, [<font color="#0033FF">Chris: "I was talking!"] Hey, no, no, let me go! Okay, another thing that really disturbed me is, apparently, you told these trolls that you, uh, that you shit yourself? I mean, what the hell, Chris?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [in an odd falsetto] Ehh, I prettty much...yeah...I mean, I'm more in control of my bowel movements nowadays, and yeah, I... I do that less.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well I mean...you're just...you're 27, I mean...do you just not make it to the bathroom? [amused]...Or, or what?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Uh...Yeah, I just, I just don't make it to the bathroom quickly enough.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [incredulous] Wh...h-how do you not know? Your body...gives you...you know, it lets you KNOW that...something...it's like, I mean...like when was the last time it happened if you're so in control?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, the last time it happened...yeah, it was like three years ago.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Three years ago?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well it said that it happened recently, so are these lies?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah they're, yeah they, yeah I would say they are exaggerating those. If it happened recently those are lies.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, okay but [Chris repeats "the last time I" over and over] you've got to see that all this stuff is disturbing to me.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hmm. Yeah I can, I can, I can relate to that. I can understand how you feel. Yeah. I, I would be uneasy too if I was, if I wasn't myself and I was reading that, you know, about myself or...yeah. Hm, oh yeah, most of the information they got on that ED page...[pause] it's like conned out of me, they conned out of me from pretending to be the past women I've talked to like Blanca... Weiss or uh...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay but you can't blame other people. I mean, those people aren't near you; you can't say that they made you give them those videos. I mean what [Chris tries to interrupt] were you thinking? I mean, this is why your parents are mad at you right now!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, plus I was more gullible back then. And I'm, [sheepish] I've been less gullible for the past few months. And now. [long silence] I've learned from my mistakes. I'm working on these things and I'm moving on from, I'm moving on and trying to put all that behind me. And plus, I've, I've got a responsible detective, uh, up in the FBI to take, to help, to help to towards the down-taking of the website and the downfall of the trolls.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, but still, Chris, I mean, Chris you need to understand this stuff is kind of disturbing, and I mean like, okay look, like, I mean, like stuff you do in real life. Like, if most people touched me as much as you did, I would've gone off with them, but I mean, I'm trying to be polite because I know you have difficulties, and I mean that you, like you say "slow-in-the-mind", but I mean, you've gotta understand you can't keep doing this shit.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, I understand that...[pause] I understand that.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: And besides, you keep saying that the cops don't care about things. I mean, you've really gotta let some of this stuff go! I mean, I mean don't be slow-in-the-mind with that! I mean, if they don't care they're not, they're never gonna help you, and even just one lone detective isn't gonna be able to do anything!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long silence] Yeah...Yeah also I did go to Tom Periello a little about that and talk to him about that.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well, I mean, what exactly is he gonna do? [Talking over Chris] And I mean, I mean like, what about all your counselors at church? I mean, do they know all this? Do they know this stuff?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, they know, yeah they, more or less, uh, know about what's been going on in the ED page, yeah. I mean ne-, I mean, the people, I mean, between my pastor Elizabeth and my pastoral counselor Rocky, uh yeah, they're ashamed with the, the church and all that being...on the internet and being put on the ED page and being slandered around in that sense. [pause] And I mean, yeah, I've been relating with that as well, and...it's just one of the things I try not to think, that's just one of the bad pieces, that like you know. I mean, I'm not ignorant, I know about it, I understand it, I just can't- [Kacey interrupts]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But Chris, okay, there was a video of you humping a PlayStation 3! [laughing] What the hell?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [stammering] I was, I was blackmailed into that. By, uh…

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But the, how were they blackmailing you? These people are on the internet! How are they blackmailing you? [Chris tries to interrupt] You, they, they're not going to do anything to you!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, okay, Kacey, yeah, this happened like a month ago but like...two months ago. About one, about over a, yeah I'd say, yeah, closer to two months now. Uh, anyway yeah, this person Jack Thaddeus got hold of the majority of my PlayStation Network accounts, including my main, my main American one, my secondary American one, and my, and my import accounts, including my Japan, Hong Kong and Spain-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [interrupts] Wait wait wait, you were doing this over a PlayStation account? That's what all this was about?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Not just one but the whole, but the, but the majority, a whole bunch of my accounts- [Kacey cuts him off]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: It's video games! It's, oh my gosh, you could've easily called them and they would've understood, I mean… It's video games, [Chris tries to interrupt] you were letting them get to you that bad over a video game?!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, okay- [Kacey cuts him off again]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Chris! Think about what you're doing!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, okay, okay Kacey. Before that, before I made, before th-, that video happened, let me give you the, let me start from the beginning here.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: No, no! You're, you did this for a video game? It doesn't matter what they did. These are nameless people behind a computer screen. They're not gonna do anything to you! Uh-h You did this, you're giving them all this stuff over a video game! [pause] I mean, you need to grow up!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [moaning] Kacey, I'm, I'm, I'm talking Kacey, please. Uh, let me start from the beginning. Okay, Jack Thaddeus got hold of my Playstation Network accounts, and uh, then I tried, then I called up, like, called the American Playstation company, and uh, got both of my American accounts back but I was put on a one-month ban because they considered it like, gamesharing, and that was my, my third strike against me on that. And they're like, you know, next time it might be permanent.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, then cut your losses. Is it really worth it? Is it worth having this on the internet for the rest of your life over an account on a PS3?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [moaning again] Yeah, there's a... [sighs] You know, your may contain[?] more about how the accounts are linked, like you know, the PlayStation titles and the titles that go to, that can be copied to the PSP-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: It doesn't matter, it's a video game! You cut your losses and you tell them "Fine, take it!" Then, I mean, then, it's not worth it!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I put better than two thousand dollars on my main American account.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Whoa, WHOA! You've spent two thousand dollars on video games!? Why would you EVER spend that much on video games? What did you get?!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Plus, and plus this was over the course of like, two, three years.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [Talking over Chris] I haven't spent that much on video games in two to three years! [laughing]

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, ehh, I didn't have a girlfriend...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Even if it's two years, it's a thousand dollars a year! It doesn't matter if you have a girlfriend or not. That, that's insane! That's like those people who play Halo all the time. And they do nothing!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long pause before sigh] Anyway, getting back to, anyway, getting back to, getting back on track here. Yeah, I got my American accounts back. I had trouble tryin' to get back my Japan, and my Spain which those are important to me 'cause- [unintelligible]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Why would you, why would you even have that many accounts? Isn't an American account just good enough? And, okay-

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [splutters incoherently as Kacey continues to talk] I like getting, I, you, Kacey, I like getting imports. [stress sigh]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: How would they be able to get all of them? Okay, but why would they be able to get all of them at ONCE? I mean, did you make them all the same password? I mean, all those, okay, you can't have that many accounts, that's like fraud and stuff!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] Okay, well-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Just I mean, how did they, how did they get them?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, personally I had like, a multiple number of email addresses, and uh, multip-, uh, different passwords for all of them. Uh, upon the reaching of that for Jack Thaddeus, I sh-, I pretty much, uh, Kim, a-, Kim asked me to uh, share the, uh, for me to share the inf-, share my Playstation information with her, 'cause she has a Playstation 3 and-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [furiously interrupts] Are you blaming Kim?! [Chris tries to talk] Are you saying it's Kim's fault?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: No, no, I'm not, no, no, it's not Kim's fault, and she and I talked about this before. But anyway, she had to, I had told her the uh, the uh, information and the, the uh, the usernames and the passwords for the majority, and then she uh-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, Chris, Chris? You know what, okay let's go back to something-

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Instead of my-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Hey, hey. Hey! HEY! CHRIS! [shouts over him to get his attention] Let's go back to something. You said you spent over $2000. Okay. You are on an income, which taxpayers like myself, pay. How much do you spend on video games a WEEK?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] I'm not sure.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay. You can't even keep track of that. What gives you the right to take that money, and to spend $2000 of it on video games? Where, that, I mean, I can't even buy myself video games, so why should I pay for you to just spend your money on all this?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Most of my income goes, goes towards my family. Uh, paying them a monthly rent of $250, they've gone twice [unintelligible] the bills...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [Talking over him] No, that doesn't matter! That doesn't matter! It doesn't matter what you pay like that.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I pay, I, I only get like two, I only get like 200 out my 800 a MONTH.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Then WHY would you spend that much on games? That makes even LESS sense! I mean, okay, with these games that you spent so much money on, how much do you even PLAY them a week? How much do you even play them?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Long pause] On a near daily basis.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: All of them? [Disbelieving] All 2000 dollars?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Pause] The majority of it, yes.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, I find that hard to believe. I mean, and even if you were, don't you think maybe, you should be, like, like you were talking about getting a job! Like, how are you gonna be able to do that, and playing all these games at once? You should be, uh, I mean, like have you even done anything MORE besides going to the Social Security office?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Pause, sigh] Yeah. I was gonna call Mr. Will yesterday and find out more about that working ticket, but unfortunately, uh, yeah- yeah, today is still Friday. I was gonna call him today, but then the stress happened yesterday, and I had to take the emotional day today. I just didn't feel up to making the call today, and-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Chris! Then how are you ever gonna work? How are you ever gonna work? You can't just have emotional days like that. I mean, you either work or you don't. I mean, you've gotta grow up a little!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I n-, I, I've been growing up! I've been growing up. It's just so mu-, it's just a, a whole lot for me to think about.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well, this is why your parents are mad at you! I can see why they're mad at you![Chris sighs deeply] I mean, do they even know you spent that much on video games? And that you just like, I, I, I'd, oh my gosh! [Chris sighs] I mean, I don't, I didn't want to go in to work today, and I went in! I didn't want to go to school today, and I went! And I mean, and I've been having problems with sinuses, and, I mean, come on!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] I, I mean, I mean, if I did have a job, and all that, uh, so many complications. I, uh, when I got my Social Security at first, I was, at first I, you know, like, I think it was about-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [talks over him] Chris, Chris, if you-

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [keeps talking] Two thousand two or three-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: -really only get 200 dollars a month, how did you GET all that money for those video games? Did you steal it?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I get 800, for your information, no. For your information, I get 800 dollars a month.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: No, but you said you only get, you just said you only get 200 out of it 'cause your parents TAKE the rest. I mean, so, how did you, I mean, that would have taken you a long time, and, and that's if you've never spent any other money on anything but video games. Where did you get that money?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, well, I-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Be honest.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: It, it, it did come out of the, uh, remaining 200. I spend like 100, 150 out of that per month.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: There's no way you could have mathematically have done that and only spent your 200 on video games. Where did you get the rest of that money, and please be honest with me.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] Uh, between credit car-, between credit cards and- [Unintelligible, says something about his mother]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You have credit cards? Are they yours? [Gasps] You took your parents' credit cards for video games?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: No, no, not my parents', they were my own credit cards. I actually applied for those. They had my name on 'em.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Why would you do that? [Long pause] You, you don't have a-

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I'm a gamer!

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: No, that doesn't matter, but you need to be smart about it! You don't have a job! I mean, you've gotta be in so much debt!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] Yeah well, you know, but-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Chris, how are you gonna get this family you want if you have all this debt? I mean, and how do you pay off the credit cards?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, fortunately my, my father and my mother have decided to help me out there. They're paying my credit card bills and I'm paying them back.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: And you think they're gonna be there forever? You think they're always going to clean up after your mistakes?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: No, no, I know they're not gonna clean up after my mistakes forever. And I, I'm not gonna make those mistakes again.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I don't know, Chris. This has given me a lot to think about.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] Well, if you want to talk-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Maybe if you just would've not tried to be so serious, like I asked, I mean just, you know, ba-, but, I, you know, I had to get, I, this whole thing is just so suspicious.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] Eh, wait a minute, this whole thing?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Just everything! Everything that I, that I've been getting! In these emails! [Chris tries to talk] Everything my aunt found! [Chris sighs] Come on, don't act like you don't know what we're talking about. [Chris begins talking over her] You know that the trolls have been trolling me.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I d-, I do. I, I, I know, but, I know what we're talking about. I'm just processing it and remembering in my head.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I know but I mean, you said you had a degree, right? So um, why aren't you doing anything with it? Like, when I get mine, I mean, I'm getting my PhD. I'm gonna be getting over $100,000 a year. What're YOU gonna be able to do? You've gotta THINK about that.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] Look, my father tol-, my father enc-, encouraged me to get the, to go to a, computer drafting and design degree, he encouraged me to go to college in the first place!

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Then why aren't you using it?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I mean, because I don't know! I don't know how. I, I mean, I don't, I, I, I, I...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You apply for a job that says you need this degree!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I know I have the compu-, a drafting and design degree and certificate, I've been taught that, I'd have to build buildings and whatever on the computer, about that, that-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: So why don't you do that instead of making a resume that has Sonichu and Rosechu on it? I know they're in a very important part of your life, but you could actually go do something.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] Because, I just, uh, I just feel more comfortable with drawing the comics and the cartoons, than I do with the, uh, with just the, uh, with just the buildings and the computers and whatnot.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, well you know what? Well I feel a lot better drawing and doing, you know, singing and stuff than I do waitressing, but you know what? I have to be a productive member of society, and I have to go out and do my job every freaking day whether I rather be home talking to my friends, or going shopping, or doing whatever.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long pause] I see.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I mean, my aunt has done factual independent research, and found out a lot of these things are true that she found out. On her own. [Chris sighs] I mean, you can't-

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Trying to interrupt] I keep feeling-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: -always blame everything with the trolls and ED.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, yeah, I'll admit that, you know, some of the things in the ED are true, but you know, they just take it and they-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [Talking over Chris] Yes, I know that, I just told you they were!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: -but they warp it around! They sla-, they make it worse. They're rewording it.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But Chris, she has been able to verify this information in other places. I just said that it wasn't all ED.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [Sigh] I... [unintelligible]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You need to start taking responsibility! I mean, I don't think anyone I know wants to stay in their job the whole time but I mean, I mean don't you wanna be a productive member of society? Don't you want- don't you want to go through your own potential? Maybe Sonichu and Rosechu isn't doing it right now, maybe you need to get your foot in the door first.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, I'm working on getting my foot in the door. I'm gonna buy a new co-, I'm gonna buy new a printer/scanner/copier next week, I'm gonna print out-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: For what? How is that gonna help you with your, with your CADD degree? How is that gonna help you utilize something that you went to school for?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I'm going to print out copies of my number zero book and then some, to send to Marvel, Dark Horse, and Archie comics with my resume, so then Sonichu and Rosechu books could be actually made to get me paper-published, and the merchandise to follow, the video games and all that, so that I could get a (good job) (?) - [Kacey interrupts]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: What if that doesn't work? What's your safety net? What if that doesn't work? [Pause, Chris sighs] Chris, loo-, look at Sonichu. It, it's not bad, but what if they don't like it? I mean, it's nothing like, you know, like any other comic books I've seen, and I mean, you, you hijack your own, your own comic and make it about you.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, that's true. But still, I mean, at least I have a worldwide fanbase, I'm very popular! I mean, that's even more than enough for any comic book company to uh, want to, want to accept me, and uh, let me work for them.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well, even if you have a fanbase, you know, they have, they, they don't go, they just aren't gonna-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: ["hire you"] -off of your fanbase. I mean, especially if you don't have factual proof of how many there are. They're going to show it to, um, groups that they have that do this for a living, and what happens if they don't like it? I mean, you need a backup plan. I can't believe you have a degree that's just sitting around gathering dust. You went to college! I mean, if I went to college, and just let my degree just sit there, and never got certified, or licensed...I mean what's the whole point? You, you've gotta do something with it.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [sigh] Yeah, maybe-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Don't you think that would make your parents proud?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, my, I would like to make my parents proud. There's so many things in my life I'd like to do. As a matter of fact, you know, during the whole time, even, even while earning my degree, I never actually had a job game plan, during that, during that time, and even after I got my degree, I just did not know where to go. Just like I, just like the uh- [Kacey interrupts]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: They have career centers at every college for that! [Chris tries to talk, Kacey continues] But then, no, which, you can't even contact now, because you freaking, uh, you got yourself an order where you can't even go there! I mean, they have counselors to help, and you screwed that over, over- this stupid stuff! H-, how, how, why?!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [sigh] Mary Lee Walsh got me very mad. She interrupted my early days of my sweetheart search.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Oh, and now it's back to Mary Lee Walsh, it's not you, right?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Well, I, you mean, you know, but the yeah, you know, that was the- [stammers]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I thought you forgave her!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I, I mean, I did forgive her, but still, that's what caused that portion of the thing. I'm just, going back to that for the one time just to reference. Just to reference.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Look, just because she didn't like how you were trying to get a girlfriend, does not equal you not being able to go on with your life.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long pause, sigh]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: There are, there, I mean, okay, you, also, like let's, okay, you are on disability. The government has SO much for you. You could go to another college, and they would pay for most of it. They would, you know, they could help you so much, you just need to reach out! I mean, the only thing I'm looking at is that you're saying that, I mean, I just don't know. I mean, especially with you wanting to be a househusband, I mean is just, having sex and a girlfriend more important than having a job, than being a MAN? [Christian sighs] In other cultures, you would not survive.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I, I have the capabilities to survive. I have the capabilities-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [interjects] Then do it!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: -of cooking, I, I'm capable of being able to uh, do laundry, and, uh, and all of that.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: No! That's not what I'm talking about. You have a degree. You need to use it.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [LONG pause] I don't even know of any places around Charlottesville that are hiring for that sort of thing!

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Why don't you look on them? Go on the internet?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Even if, even though, even though my, even though Susan Hannifan at Piedmont, ehh, says that there are jobs like that around-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: CHRIS.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: -Charlottesville, possibly available-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Chris. You have a-

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: -even if I graduate-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You have a CADD degree! You can do work from home! I mean, what happens if you found a great job and it wasn't in Charlottesville? Would it really be that bad if you had to move out of your parents' house?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [pause, pitiful sigh] I grew up in this house! It's like, you know, it's-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You're 27, you have to leave sometime! Are you waiting for your parents to DIE or something?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: No.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Then what, you're just going to live there your whole life?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [stammering] I, I just don't know, it's just for awhile, I mean, I have been feeling uncomfortable. And I just have not found, I just don't, I, [voice climbs into a falsetto] so many things I need to GATHER in my head out of the whole lifetime, I just-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, Chris. CHRIS.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: -and somebody needs to understand.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Chris. Chris. You want me to be interested in you. But you're telling me right now that you want to live in your parents' house for the rest of your life? W- what?! And you think I'm gonna GO for that?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: No, I did not say that, I mean, I mean like, you know, if things got that, got that far, I mean, I would be happy to move in with YOU, if that was the case. But I, I'm just- [sigh]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But you can't do something for yourself?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [sigh] Yeah I just...Uh, so many things tied up with this one house, it- (?) [Kacey talks over him]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, let's say that you did move in with me, what are you gonna do? Are you just gonna sit around and draw Sonichu and Rosechu, or are you gonna actually go out and do something?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I would actually go out and do something.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: W-why can't you do that first? Why can't you prove to me that first? [Chris sighs] I mean, what are you gonna do?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [pause, sigh] Well...[sigh] I would go out, see if, see if I could find somebody who would hire me?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well...I mean, I don't know why you don't just do that right now. I mean, we have the internet, that's so easy. What would, would, would you do?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [sigh] Well, even when it comes to the internet, I don't know what to put into the search term. That just, that, [trails off unintelligibly]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Put in CADD! Put in your degree! [laughs] It's not that hard! Any...simpleton can figure it out!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...and then there are more details to where I just, couldn't, I, I just don't comprehend yet. [sigh]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But Chris, seriously. Y-you need to take this seriously. This is ridiculous.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Y-yes, it is ridiculous.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I mean, maybe, I...I don't know what to say. I really don't. You're just giving me excuses why you don't need to productive. I mean, are you just gonna...you're just gonna sit around? I mean, you don't even know what kind of job you can get with a CADD degree, do you.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, that is one, that is one problem, yes.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well I mean, it's, it's simple, you even said something like, buildings and stuff... I mean, come on! Why don't, why don't you research this? You could go to Wikipedia, for God's sakes, and find out what you can do with a CADD degree. [short pause] You just want to sit around and collect your tugboat for the rest of your life, don't you.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: No, I don't want to just sit around, and collect my tugboat... [trails off]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Then why haven't you done anything? It's been years since you've been in school.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...I, I'm sorry, what was that?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: It's been years since you've been in school.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Oh yeah, I have been-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Why haven't, why haven't you done anything yet? I mean, most people take a gap year, but that's...a...YEAR. ONE YEAR. Not... forever!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long pause] Yeah, you're right. [another pause] I've just, I've been feeling wayward.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [pause] ...Wayward?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [mumbles] Yeah...lost. I didn't know what to DO.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Well, you're gonna stay lost until you actually DO something! Or, you know what, try to go to a school that you're NOT banned from, and get a degree in something you really WANT to do. Why aren't you going into art or something?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long sigh] I didn't think of that when I first applied for a degree- (?)

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [interrupting] Why don't you do something now? I mean, I'm only one year younger than you, and I'm going to school now. I changed my major, it's not hard. And, you CAN get help. It's a lot harder for me.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Yeah.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Some people have multiple degrees. I mean, look at me. I'm double-majoring AND minoring.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Huh. ...Yeah.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But, you're not going to do anything. Just, something tells me you're just not.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I'm going to do something! I just...I'm just...processing all this in my head, so then I can figure out, what to do. I mean, my current plan, is to, try to get myself published at Marvel, DC, or Dark Horse, or even-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You need to, just, yeah, but you need a backup plan. Forget about that. Forget about that. You need to start by getting a job somewhere. I mean, okay. Okay, also, do you know why? Do it for Rosechu and Sonichu. 'Cause seriously, like, are they going to take you seriously when they see you've been out of work for a long time? Even starving artists do something. I mean, seriously, be a fry cook (??) do SOMETHING. Most people in comics have an art degree anyway. [pause, Christian sighs] And besides, I mean, how far are you really going to GO? When you- made a character out of two copyrighted characters. And, your comics are FULL of things that are copyrighted. I mean, I know they're like private jokes and everything-

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [interrupts huffily] It's called, it's called a parody.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: It doesn't seem like a parody. [Christian sighs again.] A parody generally makes fun of things. Are you making fun of Sonic?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: No. I just, I'm just...I'm, I'm just accentuating on some of the things that I like!

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, but then, that's, that's a fan comic! That's not a comic, that is fan FICTION. [Chris sighs again] That's like Mary Sue shit!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [uncomprehending] ...What?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You can't sell it! It's just fan fiction!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long pause, sigh, pause] ...I don't know. But anyway, I'm gonna try, anyway, anyway, uh, Plan A, I'm gonna try for, to get myself paper-published and, uh, all that. But yeah, Plan B I'll, I'll definitely take everything that we talked about into consideration. I, I'll Google Computer Aided Drafting and Design and see what I can get with that degree. Or even, I, because, you know, my family could not, because you know, we can't, my family could not afford to, uh, at this time, to even get me classes, even at University of Virginia, which is more expensive than Piedmont.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, but you need permission from the original copyright holders to sell this! Like, you try to sell Sonichu and Rosechu, and Nintendo, and Sega and Konami are gonna be on your ass!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [pause, sigh] I tried to get Nintendo to...

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I mean, didn't you think about that? You think they're not gonna see that?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I thought, I thought about that, and I tried to- [unintelligible]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: [interjecting] Chris. CHRIS. These people have lawyers, and their job is to just go everything on the internet to find something they can sue over. I'm sur-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: -prised that they didn't FIND it already. ...And if they didn't find it already, how famous can Sonichu really be? 'Cause this is their job. Their JOB is to cause lawsuits.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [long pause] Well they, they, if that was their job, they would have sued me years ago.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Then I guess, maybe, Sonichu isn't as big as you thought. I'm not trying to be mean, here. This is tough love, Chris. I mean...you've gotta do something. It's reality.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah. [pause] I know, I have to do something. I want to do something.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: So, okay, then what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do tomorrow? What are you gonna do tomorrow then.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I'll Google computer-aided drafting and design (?) and, I'll Google CADD, and Charlottesville, and see what jobs are available around here. I, I, I'll leave a message for Mr. Will, and see if I can get a work ticket, on my, on my, degree. On my- [Kacey cuts him off]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Do you know what I want you to do tomorrow? Do you know what I want you to do? [Chris says something unintelligible] I want you to go out, and put out an application or two. Can you do that? Apply for Target, apply for McDonald's, do something. I want to know, and I want proof, that you are applying for something.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah...I'll, I'll go apply for, I'll go apply, I'll go, I'll go out and apply for, look for some jobs, yeah.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You'd better. I mean, even WalMart will hire anyone. Do WalMart.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Alright. I'll go for WalMart. [pause] But it, and also, you know, I still don't understand, how many, what my maximum hours a week are I can work for and keep my Social Security, because I know, that makes, I know I'm getting more a month than I could at any job like WalMart.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, well...[pause] You better apply for something, or else I just don't know what I'm gonna do. I, I'm definitely gonna... think on this. I mean, and it doesn't matter, if you don't go over certain hours, they'll do you part-time, and then it won't hurt yer tugboat. And you know what, even if you made less, couldn't, couldn't just the pride of knowing you accomplished something be enough? That's the kind of guy that girls want. Not someone who goes, "Oh, I could get more just sitting around doing nothing." And you could get benefits. I mean, come on, isn't that, isn't that worth it?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Yeah. It is worth it. It, and it takes, it just took somebody, it took, it took somebody like you to, uh, make me realize, about the poten-, about the, all that, and that's what, that's what I should be doing.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I mean, there's tons of disabled people who work. I mean, you like Goodwill a lot, they help out people, and I'm sure they still get their quote-unquote "tugboats." And they're productive.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [pause, sigh] Yeah. I'll go out, I'll go, I'll go, fill out some applications tomorrow, and, uh, like at WalMart and Target, and see if they'll, see if they'll hire me, you know. Even the, even the work, like, a maximum of like, ten hours a week. That's, I mean, I don't know if it's ten or fifteen hours maximum for, you know, not, yeh, I mean, I'll try for ten hours at first.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: ...Okay.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Alright.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: But I mean, if you can, if you can get up to twenty hours without hurting your tugboat, I want you to do the full twenty. I want you to really go gung-ho on this.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: If I can get, if I can get the full twenty I can go, I'll do that. But I'll, I'll start small with ten.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: No. You need to ask for at least twenty. That's still part-time.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Hmmm. Yeah. Alright. Well I mean, you know, when I apply with other people, I'll ask, I'll try to go, try to shoot for, like, ten. Just as a, just as a, like-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: No, you put, you put ten to twenty then. At least put ten to twenty. But I want you to do twenty. You can't even just do that for me. That's like, nothing. That's like, even if you work four days a week, that's five hours.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I, I, I'll, I'll do it. I'll, I'll put in ten to twenty hours. And I'll still have, still have to talk to my Social Security people about uh, this as well.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I'm pretty sure you can get anywhere, you know, up to twenty hours. You can probably get that online.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: All right, I'll, I'll look into it online, and I'll, uh, on the application I'll put ten to twenty hours. On the application.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You'd better dress nice too, are you gonna dress nice for this? I mean, just in case?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Yeah, I, I, I'll dress nice. I'll dress nice for the interview, yes. I can do that.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Don't, don't wear your medallion.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: [softly, defeated] Okay, I'm not gonna wear my medallion.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I know that's a part of you, but that, that's not gonna be allowed. Like, I can't even wear necklaces, and I'm a girl.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Hm.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: That's like, that's like having piercings going to an interview, it's stupid.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Yeah.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: And don't, don't draw on the applications!

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I will not draw on the applications.

[long pause]

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, I, I just hope this is really sinking in. Because, I, I have a feeling you're not into this.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: It is, it is sinking in. I'm really going to do it.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Besides, you should put twenty hours a week, because that's just the maximum. They're probably not going to give you that anyway, you'll probably end up with ten, but put twenty.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I will put twenty. On the application.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Good, because it's gonna make you look a lot more serious, too.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Yeah, I do need to be more serious. On that.[pause] I'm going to do it.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I'm going to, I want to-

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: I hope so.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I'm going to look for a job at uh, WalMart, and Target, and fill out applications...and I'm gonna work a maximum of twenty hours. I'm going to do this.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, good. That's good.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: ...Kacey?

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Yes?

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Thank you.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: You're welcome.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: I want you to know that, if you, you know, even though it's tough love, it's all sinking in. It really is. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay. I hope you do.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: And I hope you know, I appreciate you giving me, I appreciate you giving me the...tough love that I needed.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay. ...Well, um, I've gotta go now, so. I hope this all sinks in, but I've really gotta go.

<font color="#0033FF">Chris: Okay, I'll talk to you later.

<font color="#FF0066">Kacey: Okay, alright. [hangs up]

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