Talk:R.L. Stine

When I was 12, I was reading H.P. Lovecraft and Stephen King and J.K. Rowling and Robert A. Heinlein! When I was in high school I was reading hard science fiction novels and experimental literature! As an avid reader (who admittedly could be more avid), his total literary ignorance is the non-lying-rapist-related thing about Chris that makes me most angry. Ensign disposable 23:13, 17 November 2009 (CET)
 * Which is what inspired this articles creation. Mature people read, Chris doesn't, but when he does he reads like a retard. But I guess we can at least be thankful he isn't plagiarizing The Stand for his shit comics (I love SK as well). I fucking guarantee that if I looked into it, he's ripped off Stine's work as well. Edit:BTW, love the new section. I could even put up that quote about reading all sorts of different genres and books. I guess it pretty much shows that Chris is ripping off Stine's writing style in his books aimed at younger audiences. Sandworm 00:59, 18 November 2009 (CET)

Someone better cite exactly where Chris cites R.L. Stein or else I'm afraid I'll have to delete it. Not that I'm doubting he hasn't, I just forget where he has. --Champthom 01:10, 18 November 2009 (CET)
 * Certainly. Better?Sandworm 01:23, 18 November 2009 (CET)
 * He has mentioned RL Stine but it's hardly notable enough to deserve its own page. --Delabonte 01:43, 22 November 2009 (CET)
 * I'm inclined to agree with Delabonte, but perhaps someone can clean the page up and it could be worthy. --Champthom 09:48, 22 November 2009 (CET)
 * I think it could be transformed into a more general "Books Chris have read" page... if only Chris read something other than R.L.Stine lol GokuGetEm 09:47, 22 November 2009 (CET)

Actually, I remember a reason while the R.L.Stine article could be relevant. Stine's book, "Fear Street", is mentioned in the comics. It's the book Chris read in 1996 when a Sonichu Ball hit him on the head and he has gone crazy created Bionic the Hedgehog. The book is mentioned and pictured in the time travel episode several times. GokuGetEm 12:07, 22 November 2009 (CET)
 * Yeah but that's setting a bad precident to start adding a page for every un-notable anime or video game Chris has ever played. I know "no shit is too minor", but that's only when it comes to Chris. R.L Stine has very little to do with Chris. He sang Planetshakers songs in a video - do they get their own page? --Delabonte 13:38, 22 November 2009 (CET)
 * I get your point. But what would you suggest? To delete the page? But then where can we put the info about how Stine's the only author Chris has read, how Stine is mentioned in the Time Travel ep., etc.? We could put it on the Things Chris has ripped off page... if he had ripped Stine's books off, of which we know nothing. And starting a "Books Chris read" page, like I said earlier, would be just ridiculous. So, what would you suggest to do with the info? P.S.: And... does being the only author Chris has read, and having been mentioned in the comics in connection with the creation of Bionic, actually qualify as "un-notable"? GokuGetEm 14:20, 22 November 2009 (CET)
 * Btw, I can definitely agree that this article doesn't need to be so large; and those huge ass Stine quotes, probably, have to go. GokuGetEm 14:24, 22 November 2009 (CET)


 * We don't know it's the only author he's read. Books are so unimportant to Chris's life (sadly, this says so much) that you could probably whack a mention of it on the time travel ep and leave it at that. --Delabonte 14:37, 22 November 2009 (CET)
 * OK, I'll put the comic references to Stine in the "References" section on the revamped Things Chris has ripped off page (I'm working on this atm). But what to do about the fact that Stine is the only author Chris has confessed of reading? There definitely should be an article section which would mention Chris's lack of reading, and there could be a mention about Stine. But where could that section be inserted? Into which article? GokuGetEm 19:29, 22 November 2009 (CET)

Possible alternative to an R.L. Stine article...
Chris and Culture, or possibly Chris and Fandom. Examining Chris's limited exposure to art in general, how his entire artistic experience is encapsulated in 90's pop culture, kid's stuff, old sitcoms, video games, and porn. Notable is how he doesn't see how genres logically mesh together (his comic veering from "TV-Y" to "TV-MA" quite abruptly, his threesome pic mashing together rock and roll and Britney Spears, etc.), how he is terminally out of date with slang and music trends, his tendencies toward "popular" music (trying to fit in? no musical taste whatsoever?), etc. Since books are a sadly minimal influence on Chris, we could steamroll R.L. Stine's info into the larger Chris and Fandom article, and possibly a few other minor pages. EnsignDisposable 21:34, 26 November 2009 (CET)
 * Imo, "Fandom" is too broad. We have a "Chris and art" article, there are articles on anime, cartoons, videogames etc. I suggest, we just clear R.L.Stine from all unimportant info, and leave it be. --GokuGetEm 21:42, 26 November 2009 (CET)
 * I think we should put a section detailing his reading habits in the "Chris and writing" article. That's sort of how the music article is organized. Skwrr 21:24, 16 December 2009 (CET)

Rewrite
I don't have a super huge problem with this article, now that I think about it, but I think it needs a rewrite as it's mostly fluff. I think it's perfectly acceptable to have a smaller article wherein we discuss who RL Stein is, how he is relevant to Chris (as in a sentence or two about how he's Chris's favorite author) and then mention the times Chris has mentioned him. No need for a long, elaborate article explaining his influence, just a small article that justifies his relevancy to Chris. --Champthom 04:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Fight Club Reference
How do we know that Clyde is refrencing the book and not simply the film. Granted Chris still probably hasn't seen the film either because he is probably too busy watching my little pony re-runs. Kyweaver 20:15, 16 November 2010 (CET)

Deletion?
Delabonte mentioned above that he felt this page should be deleted for lack of notability, but at the time the page was kept because Champ thought it had potential as an article. Looking at it now, I don't think it does. It's way too small and there's barely anything to say other than 'Chris reads R.L. Stine. Nothing else though.' It's like the Seinfeld article. It's just pointless. I checked out the edit history, and this article was bigger at one point before, but that was just because it was filled out with speculation, which is against policy, and it's only this big now because of that huge ass picture and single phrases being given entire subsections. IMO, I think we should mention Stine in the article on Sonichu 7 and Bionic, put in references where need be, and just delete this page. Otherwise we're just left with the stub to end all stubs. --Old meme 07:12, 24 May 2011 (PDT)
 * I'm going to agree with old meme. Unless there is more useful information that can be added to this article, it should be deleted. Also, on an unrelated note, when I was in high school, I was reading Brave New World, 1984, As I Lay Dying (that one was my favorite), One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest, The Diceman, etc., not this R.L. Stein crap. LAG4U 18:24, 24 May 2011 (PDT)
 * Unless it already exists, we should make a page about all of Chris's fandoms. Then Seinfeld & RL stine can have a mention there.--Elliebytes 08:30, 26 May 2011 (PDT)
 * I agree with Old Meme; it needs to be merged or deleted. Griffintown 17:21, 26 May 2011 (PDT)
 * Look, this doesn't need to be an elaborate article. Ideally, we should mention all the times Chris has mentioned Goosebumps and R.L. Stein in his various works. I thought of renaming this "Goosebumps" but that might be too narrow as Chris also mentions the "Fear Street" novels. Seriously, this doesn't need to be an elaborate article about RL Stein and stuff, it just needs a short article about the times Chris has mentioned RL Stein and his works.--Champthom 02:50, 27 May 2011 (PDT)
 * See, I don't think this is enough to warrant it's own article though. At least not R.L. Stine by itself. He has had two, maybe three mentions in all of Christory. This is the same problem I had with the Seinfeld article. Some shit is too minor in my opinion. I think, rather than having yet another stub like this, we should make a single article with catalogs everything that Chris is a fan of, like Ellebytes suggested. Maybe not all on a single page though. Like perhaps an article on reading listing everything Chris has ever read, or a list of TV shows Chris has watched? I know we say Chris has read very little in his life time, but I know for a fact he's read more than just R.L. Stine. He mentioned stuff like To Kill a Mockingbird which he read as a school assignment, and he's also read some of the Sonic the Hedgehog comics by Archie before, because he traced some artwork for them in Sonichu 10. Perhaps the reading article could also work as part of Chris and writing, and we could make the list of TV shows a part of Chris and television? I just don't think these things can be an article of their own when adding the stub template doubles them in length. We never made a page for Ed, Edd and Eddy, or Darkwing Duck, so why does Seinfeld of all things get special treatment? --Old meme 07:30, 27 May 2011 (PDT)
 * I'll go ahead and sandbox a "Chris's Fandoms" article. --Elliebytes 08:02, 27 May 2011 (PDT)