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CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013

2014-06-26T05:03:17Z

4Macie:

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'''CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013''' is a video uploaded on 5 November [[2013]]. An unidentified person holds the camera while Chris guides the viewer around a [[Lego]] version of [[Manchester High School]]. Hilariously, Chris made this nostalgic video just days before discovering that his high school [[gal-pals]] were only pitying him and weren't really his friends.
This is the first video uploaded on [[Youtube]] by Chris personally since [[August 2011]].

Around 4:52, Chris presents the high school's gym. While he takes meticulous care to inform the audience about the content of the gym, he does not note the presence of the [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu (character)|Rosechu]] figurines in it. Whether this is due to [[Sonichu]] having been relegated to a less prominent place in Chris's life or due to some other reason is up to the viewer to decide.

This Lego is one of the things Chris tried to save from the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire in 14 Branchland Court]]. Unfortunately for Chris, what remains for the Lego MHS is nothing but smoldering melted pieces. [https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/cwcvilleguardian/sets/72157645275865696/]

==Video==
{{Quotebox|It took me over thirty hours in a whole week, but I built a full size school building, based from the Lego Friends animated Series (on the Lego Channel on [[YouTube]]). Fully inspired from [[Manchester High School|my High School]] and my fondest memories there, as well as the Best Ever Lego Set, Heartlake High School and "[[My Little Pony]]: Equestria Girls" movie. It is built, stud-to-stud scale, as shown in episode three of the animated series, where it is shown from one corner to the back and its left. Let's go back to school.}}

{{Infobox/video
| name = CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013
| video = {{#ev:youtube|tEvrhZoASDs}}
| stardate = 5 November [[2013]]
| subject = [[Lego]], [[High school]]
| style = {{Reason}} Reason
| saga =
| shirt = Black Extra Life T-shirt
| other =
| previous = [[You're Always Pretty]]
| next = [[Tour of Chris's House II]]
}}

=== Transcript ===

[''Chris is seated in what appears to be a public restaurant. His hair is shoulder length and he is wearing a long sleeved lime-green top with a black Extra Life t-shirt over the top. The aspect ratio of the video is unusual and the video appears to warp, possibly as the result of Youtube's anti-shake feature.'']

Hello, my name is Christian Weston Chandler, [[Ruckersville]], Virginia. And I here to ([[Speech impediment|stumbles over words]]) about to present something very [[Chris and English|fantastical]] that I have worked over three hours on-- over 30 hours on from October 18 to October 25, 2013... (camera pans left) this lovely high school. Stud to scud size scale replica of what is seen in the 3rd episode of the LEGO Friends series available on the LEGO Channel on [[YouTube]]. Dedicated to the high school I went to, [[Manchester High]]. [[Manchester_High#Go_Lancers.21|Go Lancers]].

''[To the camera person]''[[Narcissism#Unwarranted_self-importance|All right, put it back onto me now]].

Yeah and er I'll tell you about how I did-I did- I'll tell you more about this, I was inspired to do this starting from last August when the Friends High School came out. Now this thing was built with eight of these sets: a Summer Riding Camp, Olivia's House, one Café, two of Stephanie's Dance Classes, and a whole bunch of improvising from my parts. The building of this is dedicated to Manchester High School in Midlothian, Virginia.

And which on that note, I was further inspired for my high school from the [[My Little Pony]]: Equestria Girls movie. I mean, tell you, that's a really great movie, available on Blu-Ray, DVD, and digital copidy.

My senior yearbook, yep.

Anyway, so now we're going to take a tour of the inside of this-- what did I just knock over? Oh.

It also, yeah, just Lego Friends, just a little plug in for the Lego Company, pretty much and the Lego Movie, coming out in February 2014, and I'm standing right here at the entrance.

Yay! I mean Lego (stumbles over words) take an idea from your competitors at least.

We're going to go inside the school building, this thing is literally the three story height. (Unintelligible)

Oh, there goes the basketball hoop, put those to the side.

Ah, shoot, oh well, no problem, I'll collect the pieces later.

Anyway, welcome to Man- welcome to this High- welcome to this High School. We've got expansive hallways and staircases. There's the cafeteria, and here's the lunch table, pretty much where which I used to sit with my High School Gal-Pals, [[Tiffany Gowen|Tiffany]] and [[Galpal#Sarah_Anne_Bevel|Sarah]].
And, she's taking my place there for the moment.

And look who we have here, a (unintelligible)that's-what-she-said [[JERKS|douchebag]], flirting with
[[Star Wars|Ahsoka]]. And look, Michaelangelo's eating a pizza! Nomnomnomnomnom. And Venus de Milo is practicing her cheerleading moves.

Here's the principal, the Infomaniac from Lego Island, not in any way corresponding or
whatever to acting and past Principal Mr Peter Koste. And there's [[Bob Chandler|my Dad]], negotiating with
the Principal, because, that's one way to make friends in High School, [[Chris and negotiation|negotiation]].

And here is the home economics class.

There's the music.

And here is the Gym, complete with treadmill, a bunch of yoga mats, a weight machine, 2 ex- 2 exercise bikes,
basketballs and boyfriend-girlfriend gym teachers, and there's the showers that they gotta
hit plus the bathroom right net to it, and the locker rooms where cheerleaders are hanging
out plus this little boy, apparently he can't sit down because the wedgie he got was so uncomfortable.

Yes the Manchester High School spirit is all the rage around this- all the rage around here and the stair case literally goes up!

[[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Doo doo]] de dup! Ba-bump ba-bump, that works. Thank you.

And now we go up to the second floor, zoom in on the hallway, the hallway. Here [[Transformers|Bumblebee Prime]] is monitoring the hallways.
We have ourselves an expensive library, look, somebody left a book behind, and we got whole bunches of books everywhere.

Right here we've got the computer lab, somebody printed out something, and the
teacher's teaching the class. And here's my [[Lego|original mini-figure]], taking- taking a class
with my other gal-pal [[Galpal#Miranda_Joyce_Mitchell|Miranda]], right there.

And right here, you can call this a study hall or detention, but [[Megan Schroeder|a certain someone from my more recent years is in detention]], at the moment.

Hmm, well I did not secure the second floor to the bottom because I didn't want to do that just yet.

Anyway this is the science classroom with, clearly, the French character Miss Stevens.
[[Kellie Andes|Kelly's]] taking this class, looking through the telescope, and, oh right here next door,
here's another science class, featuring Dr Emmett Brown! "Marty! 2 plus 2 is 4!
E=Mc squared! And the flux capacitor makes the DeLorean into a time machine! Pay attention, boy!" "Yeah, Doc."

And the English classroom, my Mother is teaching it, and they're talking about
Abraham Lincoln. "4 score and 7 years ago". I forget how the rest goes. What are you trying to do? Cheat off your partner for a test?

And there's a janitor's closet.

And here's a dance studio.

We got all the supporting columns, I mean, the only problem I have is, definite on
the second floor here, some of the bigger plates are warped so they don't tend to stay
in place. Well, I don't know what Lego can do to improve that.

Then we go up to the third- topmost floor, where we have arts and crafts, with the craft making- dress making over here. Globe making.

And the arts, with painting and everything. Complete with balcony, and then we zoom out for
the whole roof top where, once in a while, everyone can have rooftop parties. "Tonight, tonight, there's a party on the rooftop tonight, tonight"

And what do you expect, each of the High School sets came with an owl. [[Random-access humor|"Hoo hoo" You, that's who!]]

Zoom out and see the whole thing again.

So anyway yes, I, Christian Weston Chandler, dedicate the construction of this entire school building to my Man- to my Manchester High School in Midlothian Virginia, not to be confused with Manchester England, or any other high school with the same name within the United States of America.

"Yip yip yip"

Thank you very much and have a good day!

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July 2013 Facebook Posts

2013-11-23T19:07:13Z

4Macie: /* I'm sending you love, too */

==Notes From The Man Himself==

{{Incomplete}}

===Hey, Vee===
{{quotebox|Tuesday, 2 July 2013
Hey, Vee. Have you checked out Toro's Friend Network on the [[PS Vita|Vita]] yet? It is good.}}

===[[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]]===
{{quotebox|Sunday, 7 July 2013
[[Ruckersville]] is a Very Boring, One-Horse Town. Hardly any young adults hang around here, and there is not much to do. Having a [[Wal-Mart]] does not make it any better either. It's like putting lipstick on a skeleton, it does not make it any better or nicer.}}

Chris then posted:
{{quotebox|In any case, Ruckersville And Charlottesville; Both Cities [[Christian Weston Chandler|are Socially Inept, are unfriendly and lack much compassion towards other people]].}}
William Elliott Waterman then replied:
{{quoteboxgreen|Sounds kind of like midcoast, Maine.}}

===Very Depressed.===
{{quotebox|Sunday, 14 July 2013
Very Depressed.
Need In-Person,

Real [[China|Compassion]]

From [[Sweetheart|Women]].

Hugs and Love.

Please Help. - :( feeling sad.}}

===Don't call me a wet blanket.===
{{quotebox|Thursday, 18 July 2013
My name is not Waterbed, so don't call me a wet blanket. <nowiki>|:(P</nowiki>}}
''This may have been a response to a [[CWCki Forums]] post of 15 July, where "Da Pickle Monsta" wrote, "most [[Boyfriend-free girl|women]] don't want boyfriends with the emotional maturity of a wet blanket."''<ref>[https://www.cwckiforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1654&p=61557&hilit=+wet+blanket+#p61557]</ref>

===[[Vanessa Hudgens|Spring Brakers]]===
{{quotebox|Saturday, 20 July 2013
I've just finished watching "[[Wikipedia:Spring Breakers|Spring Breakers]]", rented it for free from RedBox with Monopoly [[McDonalds|McD]] win. [[Chris and health|Eat Healthy]] with Premium McWraps, Apple Slices and Tea.

Story wise, it was fair. I definitely found the symbolism with the input of [[My Little Pony|MLP:FIM]] within the movie. Minus a "[[Wikipedia:List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters#Rarity|Rarity]]" or "[[Wikipedia:List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters#Fluttershy|Fluttershy]]", the four women played similarly towards the roles in the rest. I definitely see myself in the Faith character, as she was more of the [[Autism|outsider, introverted person]]. I believe in [[Chris and religion|God and Jesus]] too, but God must hate me to put me in the lifestyle I am forced to be cooped up and bored with. Leaving my friends behind after [[High School]] really sent me downhill, and then again after being forced away from the [[The GAMe PLACe|PLace]]. And I have few friends for real to and who would hang out with me. Damn [[JERKS|Male Population]], Damn [[Autism|Ill-Social People]] who overlook and ignore me in person around here, and Damn [[Megan Schroeder|Ms. Schroeder]] and [[Michael Snyder|Mr. Snyder]] for further destroying me emotionally over the past greater than half-decade.

<nowiki>*sigh*</nowiki>}}

===Stupid Question.===
{{quotebox|Monday, 22 July 2013
Stupid Question. One to Ten Scale; on my face at least; I'm down to 220; how good looking/attractive am I?

[[File:ChrisHowGoodLookingAmI.jpg]]}}
William Elliott Waterman then replied:
{{quoteboxgreen|You're always as beautiful as you feel.}}
Mary McLerran posted:
{{quoteboxred|Hey I'm trying something new that might be good for you, too. If you have naturally curly hair, try getting it cut shorter and let the curls frame your face. I think you could rock that look!}}
Chris then posted:
{{quotebox|Short cut; NO.}}

===The results===
{{quotebox|Monday, 22 July 2013
Right; I'm ugly as hell. <nowiki>|:(</nowiki>

[[File:CWCKiForumsPoll.jpg]]}}

Anna then posted:
{{quoteboxred|Of course this survey is incredibly biased because the majority of people who took it are trolls...}}

==Notes from Friends==
===I'm sending you love, too===
On 24 [[July 2013]], Mary McLerran, again, posted:
{{quoteboxgreen|I love your hand shape on your profile pix: the hand shape means love in sign language. I'm sending you love, too. This is Anna's mom.}}
Chris then replied:
{{quotebox|What hand shape?}}
Mary then replied:
{{quoteboxgreen|Just under your name in the yellow shape.}}
{{quoteboxgreen|Thumb, index and pinkie fingers. Look up "ILY" on google images.}}

''What she doesn't realize is that the "hand shape" on his profile pix (it's actually the cover btw) is that it's actually Chris's typical Sonichu head sign he puts on everything.''

==References==
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{{Facebook}}
[[Category:Facebook]]

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2013-09-07T23:52:03Z

4Macie:

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*7 September 2013 - Chris makes a facebook post about how god is giving him the middle finger yet again by making him scratch a woman's car in a parking lot.
*6 [[2013#September|September 2013]] - Chris makes a post on [[Facebook#Chris_Expresses_His_Outrage_for_Walmart|Facebook]] about how he has now been banned from Wal-Mart for vandalizing an XBox Live sign with a permanent marker.
*5 September 2013 - Chris's court information about the [[28 October 2011]] incident is updated. It seemed that Chris had been sentenced to 30 days confinement last year but the sentence was suspended and Chris paid a $247 fine instead.
*4 September 2013 - Chris posts a 1-star review of [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] on [[Facebook#The_Nathanael_Greene_Elementary_School_Review|Facebook]], claiming that "The teachers, counselors, and Principal here back in the early 90s physically abused and attempted molestation upon me, mentally and emotionally scarring me for life".
*3 September 2013 - Chris whines to one of his friends on [[Facebook#14.2C386.2C443_out_of_a_possible_10|Facebook]] about his [[stress]], [[trolls]] and more, claiming that his blood pressure went up because of them.
*2 September 2013 - Chris posts on [[Facebook#Offline_Troll.2FBully|Facebook]] cursing a [[Manajerk]], Rob Bell, [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[Megan Schroeder]]. On the same day, Chris likes the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dQx6DenaXc Equestria Girls - Official Live Action Music Video (The Magic of Friendship)] on [[YouTube]].
*1 September 2013 - Chris posts on [[Facebook#Ten_A_Piece_For_Rainbow_Dash_And_Applejack|Facebook]] about his favourite ponies in [[My Little Pony]].
*27 [[2013#August|August 2013]] - Chris posted on [[Facebook#Losing Friends|Facebook]] about suffering from stress due to various reasons. On the same day, he updates his Facebook photo.

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2013-09-07T03:51:41Z

4Macie:

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*6 September 2013 - Chris makes a post on facebook about how he has now been banned from Wal-Mart for vandalizing an XBox Live sign with permanent marker
*5 [[2013#September|September 2013]] - Chris's court information about the [[28 October 2011]] incident is updated. It seemed that Chris had been sentenced to 30 days confinement last year but the sentence was suspended and Chris paid a $247 fine instead.
*4 September 2013 - Chris posts a 1-star review of [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] on [[Facebook#The_Nathanael_Greene_Elementary_School_Review|Facebook]], claiming that "The teachers, counselors, and Principal here back in the early 90s physically abused and attempted molestation upon me, mentally and emotionally scarring me for life".
*3 September 2013 - Chris whines to one of his friends on [[Facebook#14.2C386.2C443_out_of_a_possible_10|Facebook]] about his [[stress]], [[trolls]] and more, claiming that his blood pressure went up because of them.
*2 September 2013 - Chris posts on [[Facebook#Offline_Troll.2FBully|Facebook]] cursing a [[Manajerk]], Rob Bell, [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[Megan Schroeder]]. On the same day, Chris likes the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dQx6DenaXc Equestria Girls - Official Live Action Music Video (The Magic of Friendship)] on [[YouTube]].
*1 September 2013 - Chris posts on [[Facebook#Ten_A_Piece_For_Rainbow_Dash_And_Applejack|Facebook]] about his favourite ponies in [[My Little Pony]].
*27 [[2013#August|August 2013]] - Chris posted on [[Facebook#Losing Friends|Facebook]] about suffering from stress due to various reasons. On the same day, he updates his Facebook photo.
*23 August 2013 - Chris posted on [[Facebook#Breast_Cancer_Awareness|Facebook]] about [[Breast Cancer Awareness]], and stating that [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] is a survivor of breast cancer. On the same day, Chris posted a [[Facebook#Snoopy_Doobie_Doo|photo on Facebook]] involving his mother and [[Clover and Snoopy|Snoopy]].

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IPods Down and Listen Up

2013-07-25T20:45:52Z

4Macie: /* Transcript */

{{honest}}
"'''iPods Down and Listen Up'''" (known as "'''iPods Down and Listen Up.MOV'''") is a video uploaded the 15 December 2009 in which [[Chris]] fails once again at rapping and life.

The rap itself appears to be improvised (though knowing Chris, he could just as easily have come up with such terrible lyrics beforehand, since he doesn't have enough of a quality filter on any aspect of his life for it to stand out), and Chris apparently alludes to what most people would call [[rape]]. It is unclear as to what precisely Chris is under the [[Alcohol|influence]] of, or how he [[Chris's Big Night Out|obtained it]].

The title is [[Things Chris has ripped off|derivative]] of a line from the ''[[Family Guy]]'' episode "[[Wikipedia:Prick Up Your Ears (Family Guy)|Prick Up Your Ears]]".

==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = iPods Down and Listen Up
| video = {{#ev:youtube| Fkn2wWE6Rw0}}
| stardate = 15 [[December 2009]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|drunk}}
| shirt = {{StraightWhiteLinesShirt|text}}
| previous = [[Congrats, Jack Black]]
| next = [[Hello, Juffalo]]
}}

=== Transcript ===
[''Chris makes liberal use of his gangsta-speak in this video'']

Yo, what is up, homies, and homes, and home-misses... dudettes and dudates. This ain't no [[Captain's Log|update]] on da [[Sonichu]] [[duck|thang]]; still workin' on it, but listen [''tries to turn this into a song''] up, up-up, up, up, up-up! Listen up! Put down your iPods, and listen up! I had a test that shows... stock market had a rise in hooooooes! I tell you what now. Tell ya what, tell ya what (what-what, what).

[''a momentary pause to recollect'']

Momentary pause to recollect. I tell ya what, ladies, I have a game. Let's play Jungle Fever (Jungle Fever)! I'm the la—I am the manly '''tiga''' (manly tiga)! You're the sleek, sexy panther! [[Rape|I pounce on you, you run away]]. I haven't missed, but-I-chase, anyway! And we chase for a while (a, a while), and then you wear out, and you take it like a gal (gal), and then we pump [[Chris and sex|(pump-pump, pump, pump, pump-pump)]] until we'll be have our little [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|tiga-panther cubs]]!

Or for—since it's Christmas time, let's make like I'm Mister—yo' Mrs. Claus. I have a... good ole heat, 'cuz I took... a bit o'... [[Wikipedia:Viagra|Viagra]]. Bam, ba-bam, bam, ho, [[Pokémon|ho-OH]]!

...Word! I have a confidence booster... and my confidence is at the max! So... there. That's the word of the day. Still an update on the [[CWCipedia]], eyyyy?

Word up. Peace out.
{{clear}}

==Remixes==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Momentary Pause to Recollect (Bam Ba Bam Bam) by Chris-chan Ft. Bill Hicks
| video = {{#ev:youtube|wN3EWjebiMo}}
| stardate = 15 [[December 2009]]
| maker = TwoCows23
| subject = Chris
| type = Remix
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = If CWC could actually rap...
| video = {{#ev:youtube|DW8FwqlDFzU}}
| stardate = 17 [[October 2010]]
| maker = ujustgotpwned2008
| subject =
| type = }}

==External links==
*[http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAo6bUGbCNU8&start1=&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNcJytCvBrWk&start2=8 Gangsta Chris]
*[http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2FAo6bUGbCNU8&start1=0&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2F9iNlAT9BLzo&start2=9 Another mashup]
*[http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2FAo6bUGbCNU8&start1=0&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-iKtiveApUo&start2= And another one]
*[http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http://www.youtube.com/v/Ao6bUGbCNU8&start1=0&video2=http://www.youtube.com/v/-QRbQfwae9E&start2=0 And another]
*[http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2FAo6bUGbCNU8&start1=0&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSXDpShy8LiM&start2= 187 on a Jerkop]
*[http://tubedubber.com/#Ao6bUGbCNU8:yiwqKV2rLzo:100:85:0:0:true CWC Vs. RZA]
*[http://tubedubber.com/#Ao6bUGbCNU8:eRCJow2tKso:100:50:0:0:true Still C.W.C]

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{{Music Videos}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]
[[Category:Yo! CWC Raps]]

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2013-06-26T04:01:56Z

4Macie:

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*24 [[June 2013|June]] - [[Anna|Mary McLerran]], relative of [[Anna]], posts to Chris on [[Facebook]] that she is sending him good energy. [http://i.imgur.com/LAZA08q.png (Link)]
*20 and 21 June - Hidden [[Twitter]] posts from 16 [[April 2012]] to 21 [[June 2013]], which most of them are linked to the [[Facebook]] [[2013 Imgur Leak]] and pictures from 20 [[June 2013]] are leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]].
*20 June - A video of [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]] on 8 June 2013 is leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]].
*17 June - Chris posts another Facebook post that [[Facebook#I_am_feeling_very_lonely_again|he is lonely again.]]
*16 June - A picture of [[Son-Chu]] which is photographed on Google Street View in [[June 2011]] is leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]].
*13 June - Chris liked two videos: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oa8Nd6H0pU "I Heard the Dog Bark" by Sesame Street] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlinLHR2yl4 My Little Pony Equestria Girls Official Trailer 2] on [[YouTube]] despite he once made a [[Facebook#THEY_ARE_NOT_SERIOUS.21.21.21|Facebook post raging about the Equestria Girls movie a few days ago]]. [http://i.imgur.com/kABCrhy.png (Link)] On the same day, [[Anna]] posts to her friends, including Chris to all go to Disneyland together. [http://i.imgur.com/5AQNS4V.png (Link)]
*12 June - Chris has made 50 friends in Toro's Friend Network according to his [[Facebook]] post. [http://i.imgur.com/LAKqMX0.png (Link)] He is also earning #mPOINTS Rewards in Crackle. [http://i.imgur.com/tTcpJFF.png (Link)]

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Talk:This is how the Trial went

2012-07-16T07:25:42Z

4Macie:

It would be pretty awesome if someone was willing to pay the fee to obtain a transcript of the event and type it up. [[User:Grandma Nazi|Grandma Nazi]] 22:24, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
*Why don't you?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
*IIRC, such documents can only be acquired with [[money|spending cash]]. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 03:03, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
*How much is a transcript? Also, where can we get info on what constitutes "[[Chris_and_psychology|psychiatric evaluations and treatment]]"? I expect Chris will try to make it so Rocky counts, despite multiple reasons why she doesn't, so does that mean he's now forced by threat of jailtime to see an actual Board-certified psychologist?--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 20:06, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
**It's about $5 per page, with potentially dozens of pages. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 09:46, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

This may be bullshit by a troll but look what I ran across. Signed Kengel1021
http://cwcsonichu.wordpress.com/
:* It took me all of 4 seconds to come to the conclusion that this is a fake...and not a very good one --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 00:25, 16 July 2012 (PDT)

Talk:28 October 2011

2012-07-12T20:29:39Z

4Macie: /* A Quick Question */

{{Not A Forum}}
== Proposed article ==

This is my proposed solution to how we manage and collect information pertaining to the events of October 28th 2011.

To-do:
* Add categories
* Add more verifiable information
* <s>Screencap the pages from the court website for preservation.</s>

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: Do we have a field agent that can attend the court hearing? That should give us the entire story behind all of this --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 13:15, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: I live 2 hours away, my company pays my gas, and if I am not too busy with a lady, I could attend this court hearing if given the proper location of the hearing. [[User:Dickbuns|Dickbuns]] 02:31, 26 February 2012 (PST)

Shouldn't it be mentioned this is the first (major) event since Bob died? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:43, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Is it noteworthy enough to note that their arraignments (or the time that the defendants are told of their crimes and to take guilty or not guilty pleas) have come to pass and according to their records, they are listed as "continued" which in this case means that they probably pled "not guilty" and are now facing their day in court? The only other explanation of "continued" being listed that I found was this, "continued in court cases generally means that they (defendant) plead 'not guilty' or that a plea deal/plea bargain is in the works". I just thought it'd be a note worthy fact-- that they are either planning a deal, or that they think they are not guilty. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:46, 7 November 2011 (PST)
:The article is already rife with speculation, and until we see court documents or other documents - we don't know the exact circumstances surrounding the charges, the pleas given (if any), medical considerations or other reasons for deferral. I'd rather we waited until we could prove the reason for deferral under the "continued" reason before we document it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 7 November 2011 (PST)

===Title===
Shouldn't the title be Americanized? September 11th isn't referred to as 11/9.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:06, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:We have a few articles with titles like this ([[12_October_2009|e.g.]]), so while I don't know if it's "right" or not, much like "Chris's", it's just become a standard. Good eye, though. I didn't catch that it wasn't Americanised. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 16:11, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:I based it on articles like [[6 June 2010]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:: Chris with felonly charges? Ohhh, Santa came early this year, and goddamn, did he deliver~! Anywho; if it was Chris on his own, it might've been dismissed like last time, but with Barb involved too, this is more concrete and serious: I propose that the formal title of the page (or saga, if it comes to that) be the name of the court case (Snyder or People vs Chandler, whatever it may be) when we get it. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:45, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and come to think of it - we Eurofag dates - see [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#When_it_comes_to_dates.2C_be_a_Eurofag|here]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:06, 20 December 2011 (PST)

==x==
Thank you based God [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 16:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Explanation ==

Am I reading this right? Chris got an Assault charge (assumption being it has to do with Snyder) but Barb got one too... but for a police officer, because her day in court was Oct 31, is there any information about what "assault" on the officer she actually did? Does anyone know what "complainant : CASON" means? And where can the stuff about him being in jail for two days be found? (or was this something Chris himself gave out?) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:08, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Edit: ah, the actual trial for the assault isn't until December, so we probably won't find out what she did until then... It was some civil case between her and Snyder that occurred Oct 31-Nov 1--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
** Oct. 31st was her formal arraignment, where I guess they informed her of the charges against her and set a court date for a criminal trial. Whether or not Mr. Snyder will file a civil suit remains to be seen, but somehow I doubt that her wants to have anything more to do with the Chandlers if he can help it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:29, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
***(Messed up original links, but)Snyder's pressing civil charges against both, as both of his civil cases can be seen on the Virginia General District Courts site. Also, assault can be something as simple as a verbal threat, don't know if that was the case here, but it's something to keep in mind. [[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:36, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

== Who paid bail? ==

Is there any way to find out who paid bail? Most likely it was one of his extended family, but still. --[[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 01:33, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
*It could have also been a bondsman, which is pretty likely. That's their whole business. --[[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:38, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

==Civil Charges==
Anyone have any addition info about the civil charges from Mike? http://i.imgur.com/Fz281.png It says they were in court on Nov 1st but the case is listed as "Other Judgement" and a lot of the other fields are empty. Did Mike drop the case? --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 18:12, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*Saw this on /cwc/, it says [http://www.facebook.com/Newsplex/posts/10150348599173564 here] a person was injured, it could have been Mike. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 22:56, 10 November 2011 (PST)
* We still await more concrete and reliable sources about the exact series of events. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:29, 11 November 2011 (PST)

==Chris's defense?==

Not sure if the Autism card will completely save him this time, espectially for a felony. But could his years of being trolled actually give him a valid claim of "harassment". There certainly is an ocean of information posted online about him, much of which is blatant insults towards him. Any chance the CWCki could get in any sort of trouble for instigating these actions by Chris?

Also, may want to bring up that psych evaluation he had back in 2004 when he was kicked out of school. Could that prove any insight to his reasoning behind this incident; and could it maybe help/hurt his case?--[[User:Jcrowley1985|Jcrowley1985]] 19:36, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* No. As far as I can tell, Chris using trolls and/or the CWCki as a reason for violating a restraining order is not going to cut it. I know he used it with the last little incident, but any judge with half a brain stem would realize that it's less about internet bullies and more about a 29-year-old man who should know better just ''not getting it''.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 19:59, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* High Functioning Autism wouldn't play a huge role here, simply because it's not a truly debilitating disorder these days, and there is no way a judge would even consider the argument that "trolls" made him do it.... Chris having trolls doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong and illegal. It'll actually be pretty hilarious if he tries to use this site for proof against trolls simply for the fact that there are a lot of things Chris himself has 'donated' to the site that could get him in even more trouble... for example: does Mr.Snyder know that Chris has stated, on the internet, that Snyder is a child molester and has potentially fiddled with his own kids? Yeah, that won't go over too well. The way things are looking, if Chris is found guilty of any of these; he'll see jail/prison time for sure (if only because he will be unable to pay his huge fees and fines) Barb is probably in the same boat. Sadly, another thing to point out is that if they have to get repo-ed to pay for anything, the county will finally have to deal with their horrendous hoarding problem and will probably condemn the house, just as Bob had feared. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:38, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*It all depends on how his lawyer wants to play it. Is Robert Bell acting as a PD for his pro bono work? Either way, I'd bet that either his lawyer is so blase in regards to the situation and/or so overwrought by his other cases that he'll just advise Chris to plead guilty with mitigating circumstances (autism, grief, etc.), or, it's always possible that Robert Bell's a total shark who'll get Chris off with a slap on the wrist, yet again. Of course, there's always the possibility that he'll be committed.
I know Chris and Barb have four cars (one of which is a Jag according to one of the Kacey calls) so they could hock those for some CWC cash (see that thing I did?), and lord knows that Chris and Barb probably have at least, AT LEAST, $2000 worth of useless shit lying around their house, but, somehow, I'm in doubt that Barb'll be able to rouse Chris off of his ass for long enough to get him to help her (and himself).
I've got to admit, I feel sort of sorry for Chris and Barb. Bob just died and lord knows that you never know what you have until it's gone. Their actions are inexcusable, yeah, but still, it's horrible that things have to end this way, if that's what ends up happening. I was, I guess naively, hoping that something would seep through Chris's skull and he'd just gracefully leave the internet and take some steps to improve himself, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. He should thank God that's he's not going to be going to prison if he does have to be incarcerated. He'd get passed around like fucking candy there.

tl;dr Chris is fucked any-which-way [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:18, 6 November 2011 (PST)

: It's worse than that. If Chris is foolish enough to reference this site, he's going to be pointing the court toward evidence that he has no regrets on this incident, since the first thing he did after getting out of jail was to crow about his crimes here. Any decent prosecutor would then dig up his youtube videos, handily linked throughout the site, and reveal that he's got a history of antisocial behavior, the most recent threats and attempted extortion only just predating his father's passing (and thereby casting doubt on grounds for his recent grief).

: His best chance is an insanity plea, which is difficult to prove on people who can communicate more clearly then Chris can. Ironically, the clearest indicators -- his beliefs that his creations are real -- may come off as so ludicrous that the plea might get dismissed.

: Failing that, he'll be extremely lucky to get a plea bargain down to some serious community service and probation. Unfortunately for him, his history with Snyder in specific shows how extraordinarily lenient everyone's already been. Any decent prosecutor will insist on such as part of their arguments, and should Chris' previous proud attempts at vehicular assault enter play, he's almost certainly going to have jail time as part of a plea. Even disregarding that, though, I'd be surprised if Chris actually made any efforts should he get probation and community service, as his history shows he'd ignore both, forcing the issue of jail time.

: Sadly enough, that's actually the extent of the good news for him. The bad news is that Chris' pride and arrogance may lead him to refuse any such pleas -- in his mind, he's neither insane nor has any of his behavior ever been anything less than justified -- and worse, he may even try to represent himself. Should that happen, his only real shot is to have Barb legally declare him as incompetent. While at first blush that sounds like it'd lead to him getting off on insanity after all, it'd rely primarily on Barb's testimony to go through -- and Barb's already supported him enough to be his accomplice.

: The primary factors now on whether Chris is going to jail are his county's prison system, his prosecutor's diligence, and how much ridiculous bullshit Chris serves up in his own defense. If he acts out in court, continues his libelous antics outside of it, or submits anything damaging in his "defense," he screws himself to oblivion. Hell, if Snyder comes here, or if someone contacts him and points him our way, the prosecution would have a field day.

: Quite frankly, this is so stacked against him I'm almost of a mind Barb did this intentionally to try to get the state to take custody of him before she dies, too, sad as it is to say.

: [[User:Kestrel|Kestrel]] 00:25, 7 November 2011 (PST)

*None of this is really relevant to the article, so next person who contributes something that doesn't relate to this article gets banned. You can talk about it elsewhere like on [http://cwcki.yuku.com our forums].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Article Title and Redirects==

We need to get a more fitting title set up as well as some redirects. I'm not sure how, exactly... But something like "Arrest" for a redirect. My creative juices are currently burnt out so I leave this all up to you for tonight.
:The subsection regarding the incident on the GAMe PLACe page called it "Strike Three, You're Out!" Something along those lines, perhaps?--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:16, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:We are a Wiki at the end of the day - and it's less about getting a "fitting" or amusing title, and more about getting a sensible one. I chose this one based on other articles about specific events (mostly significant videos that were not given a particularly unique name by Chris). "Keep It Simple" is the golden rule here, so any renames should be both simple and yet, unique enough for people to be easily able to find it. I'm totally open to better suggestions for the article title though, as I said near the top of this discussion page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 03:17, 7 November 2011 (PST)
Title suggestion: 2011 GAMe PLACe Altercation and Trial. Given that Chris ''is'' going before the grand jury however, we need to keep in mind this article is probably going to need to be split eventually as this whole thing is probably far from over. --[[User:Derk|Derk]] 10:04, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

==Where==
Did someone know exactly where the trial will take place (ie some court on Chalottesville i presume)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 10:25, 7 November 2011
*[http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Charlottesville/home.html Charlottesville Circuit Court] most likely? The circuit court has jurisdiction over all felonies and that is where a jury trial would be held. Unfortunately on their [http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html case lookup] page, that court isn't in the list. [[User:Penman28|Penman28]] 09:55, 8 November 2011 (PST)
*Considering that the charges are filed under "Charlottesville General District Court" I'm gonna guess thats where things are going down. --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 10:49, 8 November 2011 (PST)

== Chris's Account ==

Is it worth mentioning anything about this "CWC Michael Snyder Interview"? I looked it up on youtube and it's originally from 2010; so it's not really recent, nor does it pertain to anything Chris is talking about. He doesn't even say he wants to lore Chris into the Place; he actually says "We have a Pokemon Tournament the 22nd, I really hope Chris doesn't try to show up... That'd be really bad." I guess what I'm getting at is this: would it be worth putting in a small summary about the video Chris is saying will get him off the hook? Or do we just leave it and if people want to see it they can look it up themselves? (I really wish we could get Mr. Snyder's accounts of the happenings as well, just to compare the two.) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 9 November 2011 (PST)

I removed that section since it isn't 100% confirmed to be Chris yet (and in the case he does - he reads the Wiki). If it gets re-added I'd say just link it and add a Wiki page if there isn't already. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:15, 9 November 2011 (PST)

== Removed the email ==

I went ahead and removed the halfsie-confirmed email I posted in the forums, since it's not fully confirmed to be by Chris and just not someone from Inner/PVCC in-the-know (and for the agent's sake). Just reverse if nobody gives a fuck. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:11, 9 November 2011 (PST)
* I do believe that someone said "Tito and champthom just confirmed that some events match up". So maybe keep it but add some kind of disclaimer saying we don't have Christian Weston Chandler's confirmation; but some highly reliable sources can confirm that events match up?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:52, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Either way, the fact that Chris reads the Wiki remains and leaving the email up compromises a field agent, and genereal consensus is on the forums (in that topic) is that we keep it down until later. PVCC trolls have also asked that it doesn't go up yet on /cwc/. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 16:19, 9 November 2011 (PST)

*There is truth to it, I will tell you that, but I'd prefer it if someone can say something solid about it as in "This is from Chris 100%." I suppose we could leave it with a disclaimer that "According to Tito, this is true" so people can interpret it however they'd like, but I'd prefer that we wait until we can get a solid confirmation about it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:50, 9 November 2011 (PST)

** I'm more concerned with it impacting operations. I don't want to interfere with any plans already in play... I say keep it down until we get confirmation that saga is over --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:22, 9 November 2011 (PST)

We do get information such as emails from offical channels, so I support the motion to omit the material that was added from the article for the timebeing until we are sure of a reliable source. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:50, 10 November 2011 (PST)
:This is still our stance for now - we await further verifiable evidence that this account is verbatim what Chris said. /cwc/ and ED are not reliable enough sources. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:29, 17 November 2011 (PST)

== End of the world ==

If Chris is sentenced in December 2011, next month, that means that if he receives the minimum sentence for his felony count, that means that he will get out of prison on December 2012, the same time that the world is supposed to end. How interesting. --[[User:TheJerk|TheJerk]] 12:56, 12 November 2011 (PST)
:Eh - it's sort of interesting in a theoretical way. Speaking of theories - they don't belong on article talk pages. Please use the links at the top of this talk page to find better places for pointing out or discussing similar things. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:48, 12 November 2011 (PST)

== GAME PLACe ==

The PLACe has changed names now, should we be using the new name in this article I think so, or ate least referred to as "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (Formorly The GAMe PLACe)" for accuracy
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 13:44, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:I think in this case, similar to Chris' vs Chris's, established convention ought to take precedence over accuracy. I don't think the majority of people would know what "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" is, and I don't think there's much need for them to know the new name. The rename probably deserves a mention in the relevant article, but I don't think everything needs to be readjusted. If Chris ever starts referring to the store explicitly by its new name, renaming things might make it easier on readers, but until then, I don't think it's really beneficial. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 13:52, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:*Totally agree Freecell. It definitely should be mentioned in the article, but a name change would just complicate things. And for some reason, I have a really weird feeling that Chris would never call it anything other than "The PLACe". --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:51, 22 November 2011 (PST)

== Court Liaison??? ==

Is there anybody who is planning on going to the courthouse on December 15th in order to document Chris and Snorlax's appearances for us? Perhaps a live blog of the proceedings would be in order? Just saying. --[[User:Osideguy92|Osideguy92]] 20:56, 11 December 2011 (PST)
*Check the CWCki Forum.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:03, 12 December 2011 (PST)

== Rob Bell article needed ==

We need to have an article here on the CWCki about Bell's involvement in the court cases. His involvement in all this is too minor for the other sites. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 21:01, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:All we know about him is that he's representing Chris in court. Unless there's more info out there (such as why he's representing Chris; was he court-appointed or hired by Barb) then I don't see why we should give him his own article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:38, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:We already deleted an article that was created for Rob Bell as we currently don't have enough information on him* to warrant a solo article. For now, any things about him relevant to this case can be documented on this article.
:(*and no, this isn't a call for people to go digging for information on him - we should keep all details on the CWCki related to either Chris or the court case.) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:09, 20 December 2011 (PST)
::we know this:
::"Rob Bell is an honors graduate of the University of Virginia and the University of Virginia Law School. At the Law School, Mr. Bell served as the Executive Editor of the Virginia Law Review and was selected for the Order of the Coif.

::Mr. Bell served for five years as a state prosecutor in Orange County, Virginia. During this time he prosecuted thousands of criminal and traffic cases.

::In 2001, Mr. Bell was elected to the Virginia General Assembly as the Delegate from the 58th District. As Delegate, he serves on the Courts for Justice Committee and the Virginia State Crime Commission. He has authored numerous criminal laws, including laws dealing with drunk driving, sex crimes, and criminal procedure.

::Mr. Bell joined Davidson & Kitzmann in 2005 and tries cases in all state and federal courts.

::His wife, his son Robbie, and his daughter Evelyn live in Albemarle County."
::http://www.dklawyers.com/bio_rbell.htm
::and this http://www.nbc29.com/story/16202740/rob-bell-enters-attorney-general-race [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::Cool. Anything on him relevant to Chris? No? Well okay then. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:17, 20 December 2011 (PST)

::::He is Chris's lawyer, he deserves a stub. more info will come.. The actual trial should give us some information. besides http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:ShortPages [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:50, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::::No he doesn't - not a this time. I have spoken. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== Does this saga have a name? ==

If not i would call it the "Attack on C-Ville (or CWC-Ville) saga.. Is this even a saga? it certainly meets what i would think are the criteria. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:14, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* I'd say it's a part of the ongoing GAMe PLACe Saga. --[[User:SonichuLives|SonichuLives]] 13:32, 3 January 2012 (PST)
** ok the reason i ask is that the graphic for the saga page (and the page itself) needs to be updated to include 2012 stuff[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:49, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== So what happened on Jan 5? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 17:06, 6 January 2012 (PST)

== Protection Order ==

Should it be mentioned in the article what the Protection Order does? Or should we just link it to a definition? A Protection Order for Snyder means that Chris will no longer (for the duration of the order) visit Snyder's place of business, Chris will no longer be able to talk with Snyder, he will no longer be allowed to threaten Snyder in any way (even through internet means), and he will not be able to basically do anything else that involves Snyder (this includes using his name on sites like Facebook). IF Chris is caught doing any of these prohibited things, it can be considered a civil OR criminal offense and Chris will be given a jail/prison sentence along with a fine. I'm thinking this is a very important development for the Chris/Snyder relationship; but I'm not sure if we should directly reference the Protection Order in this article. Thoughts? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:59, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

*That would depend on what priorities take precedence. We could: 1. elaborate rather deeply on the subject and inform CWCki readers right now; or 2. wager Chris and/or Barb don't know about what is entailed, and omit this information in hopes that these penalties will be realized. I personally favor the former myself. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 15:10, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

== Time to split ==

This article either needs a new name, or its time to split it. October 28 2011 has long past and the events of THAT day are DONE. This article seemed like the best place to have all the court info at first but with all the continuances and stuff happening between then and now, this has become more of a saga and i think it should be treated as such. 'Court Saga' is a better name, its more open and less date specific. This article spans 7 months yet it bears as its title a single date in October of 2011. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:55, 10 April 2012 (PDT)
: Nothing has been done about this yet, i suggest that the event be given a name and that information about this event be split. One page for the events of that day (this one) and a second page that outlines the court the entire situation. Otherwise it may be easier to just rename this article to something that is more fitting for a page that deals with more than just one date. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:16, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
So do it. --[[User:Mr Derp|Mr Derp]] 12:03, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
:* my thoughts don't mean shit...but here it goes. 1) if it bothers you that much that the title of this article says 28 October 2011 because, as you said, this has gone over 7 months now; than change it. If someone else doesn't like it, they'll change it... and those that don't care will just leave it be. 2) Personally, I think it should just stay 28 October 2011 because that's what it is... Now, I'm going to go into a dangerous road here, but please, don't take offense. 9/11 (for example) is the day thousands died; yet it is still commonly known as 9/11 or September 11th. It's not 9/11/01, and not usually September 11th, 2001. It's also not called, The Day Planes Hit The Twin Towers And The Pentagon And A Place Near A Farm And Thousands Died (Saga);. It's just not, and again, I'm not trying to start something, I'm just using 9/11 as an example that sometimes things are known simply because the DATE itself was important, not just the days/months/years that came with it... I really think that this 28 October 2011 should be left as it is because that's what it will be known for... the day Chris will finally have to pay the piper (so to speak). "Court Saga" doesn't really sound good simply because this isn't the first time Chris has gone to Court, so unless we insert the other event as well...it just won't work. Would you leave stuff dealing with Ivy or Jackie out of their Sagas? Probably not. I dunno, this is long winded and probably a lot "forum"-y talk, but that's what I think.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:28, 11 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm gonna change the name [[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 13:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
Once I work out how o do it.. [[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 13:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:Moving, splitting, and merging are things only admins can do. Trying to move it manually would remove the page history, and so would be reverted quickly. You'll have to wait. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:49, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

: What name? What saga is this? [[User:Axe|Axe]] 00:45, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
::Felony Saga? Hit & Run Saga? Courthouse Saga? Trial Saga? Justice Saga?--[[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 15:48, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

==Sentencing==
Where did the details regarding Chris and Barb's sentencing come from? I saw it on Da Update and moved the info over from there.--[[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 00:35, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Most likely The Official Website for Virginia's Judicial System. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 00:59, 11 July 2012 (PDT)Alopax
:** At the time of this posting, that site has nothing updated for the Chandler's, in fact, it still says they have an active case and their arraignment date set. What I don't understand is this, I was under the impression that an arraignment was only for the prosecuted to plead guilty, not guilty, no contest, ext. I thought there was a different date all together for sentencing. But of course, this article says there was a plea bargain in place, which would probably happen during the arraignment. The only way I think we know this is through the troll that was there that day. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:23, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

==A Quick Question==

I understand as part of Christian's and Barb's plea deal, they have to pay Mike's medical expenses. Was there any wording in the plea that indicated that Mike was settling his civil case against them in exchange for this settlement, or is his civil suit still ongoing? I know it's not entirely strange for civil suits to be settled in criminal courts in exchange for plea deals, but I can't find any information about whether Mike's civil suit is still ongoing or not. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 21:32, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Snyder received the restraining order again the Chandler's during the Civil Suit. This actually didn't go to trail, so I'm assuming it was a plea deal, kinda like "I won't press charges as long as you stay the hell away from me" type thing. The plea bargain for the criminal charges dealing with Snyder's medical payments was probably an add-in to make the deal look better and to show that the Chandler's have some remorse over their actions (though, as we can see, Chris has no remorse for what he's done to Snyder and is only upset because he got in trouble). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 13:29, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

== Cyan & Indigo's report ==

Just as a reminder, only [[Help:A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Cite_only_publicly_available_media|publicly available media]] is acceptable to cite on the CWCki. This is to promote transparency and as it stands, the CWCki Forums require registration and people shouldn't have to register an account to check out the report.

However, I've just asked Cyan if we can use her report here and if she consents, we'll make an article for it in the same vein as [[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer]] and other verified reports of Chris sightings. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:13, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

Talk:28 October 2011

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{{Not A Forum}}
== Proposed article ==

This is my proposed solution to how we manage and collect information pertaining to the events of October 28th 2011.

To-do:
* Add categories
* Add more verifiable information
* <s>Screencap the pages from the court website for preservation.</s>

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: Do we have a field agent that can attend the court hearing? That should give us the entire story behind all of this --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 13:15, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: I live 2 hours away, my company pays my gas, and if I am not too busy with a lady, I could attend this court hearing if given the proper location of the hearing. [[User:Dickbuns|Dickbuns]] 02:31, 26 February 2012 (PST)

Shouldn't it be mentioned this is the first (major) event since Bob died? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:43, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Is it noteworthy enough to note that their arraignments (or the time that the defendants are told of their crimes and to take guilty or not guilty pleas) have come to pass and according to their records, they are listed as "continued" which in this case means that they probably pled "not guilty" and are now facing their day in court? The only other explanation of "continued" being listed that I found was this, "continued in court cases generally means that they (defendant) plead 'not guilty' or that a plea deal/plea bargain is in the works". I just thought it'd be a note worthy fact-- that they are either planning a deal, or that they think they are not guilty. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:46, 7 November 2011 (PST)
:The article is already rife with speculation, and until we see court documents or other documents - we don't know the exact circumstances surrounding the charges, the pleas given (if any), medical considerations or other reasons for deferral. I'd rather we waited until we could prove the reason for deferral under the "continued" reason before we document it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 7 November 2011 (PST)

===Title===
Shouldn't the title be Americanized? September 11th isn't referred to as 11/9.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:06, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:We have a few articles with titles like this ([[12_October_2009|e.g.]]), so while I don't know if it's "right" or not, much like "Chris's", it's just become a standard. Good eye, though. I didn't catch that it wasn't Americanised. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 16:11, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:I based it on articles like [[6 June 2010]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:: Chris with felonly charges? Ohhh, Santa came early this year, and goddamn, did he deliver~! Anywho; if it was Chris on his own, it might've been dismissed like last time, but with Barb involved too, this is more concrete and serious: I propose that the formal title of the page (or saga, if it comes to that) be the name of the court case (Snyder or People vs Chandler, whatever it may be) when we get it. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:45, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and come to think of it - we Eurofag dates - see [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#When_it_comes_to_dates.2C_be_a_Eurofag|here]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:06, 20 December 2011 (PST)

==x==
Thank you based God [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 16:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Explanation ==

Am I reading this right? Chris got an Assault charge (assumption being it has to do with Snyder) but Barb got one too... but for a police officer, because her day in court was Oct 31, is there any information about what "assault" on the officer she actually did? Does anyone know what "complainant : CASON" means? And where can the stuff about him being in jail for two days be found? (or was this something Chris himself gave out?) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:08, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Edit: ah, the actual trial for the assault isn't until December, so we probably won't find out what she did until then... It was some civil case between her and Snyder that occurred Oct 31-Nov 1--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
** Oct. 31st was her formal arraignment, where I guess they informed her of the charges against her and set a court date for a criminal trial. Whether or not Mr. Snyder will file a civil suit remains to be seen, but somehow I doubt that her wants to have anything more to do with the Chandlers if he can help it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:29, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
***(Messed up original links, but)Snyder's pressing civil charges against both, as both of his civil cases can be seen on the Virginia General District Courts site. Also, assault can be something as simple as a verbal threat, don't know if that was the case here, but it's something to keep in mind. [[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:36, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

== Who paid bail? ==

Is there any way to find out who paid bail? Most likely it was one of his extended family, but still. --[[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 01:33, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
*It could have also been a bondsman, which is pretty likely. That's their whole business. --[[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:38, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

==Civil Charges==
Anyone have any addition info about the civil charges from Mike? http://i.imgur.com/Fz281.png It says they were in court on Nov 1st but the case is listed as "Other Judgement" and a lot of the other fields are empty. Did Mike drop the case? --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 18:12, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*Saw this on /cwc/, it says [http://www.facebook.com/Newsplex/posts/10150348599173564 here] a person was injured, it could have been Mike. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 22:56, 10 November 2011 (PST)
* We still await more concrete and reliable sources about the exact series of events. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:29, 11 November 2011 (PST)

==Chris's defense?==

Not sure if the Autism card will completely save him this time, espectially for a felony. But could his years of being trolled actually give him a valid claim of "harassment". There certainly is an ocean of information posted online about him, much of which is blatant insults towards him. Any chance the CWCki could get in any sort of trouble for instigating these actions by Chris?

Also, may want to bring up that psych evaluation he had back in 2004 when he was kicked out of school. Could that prove any insight to his reasoning behind this incident; and could it maybe help/hurt his case?--[[User:Jcrowley1985|Jcrowley1985]] 19:36, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* No. As far as I can tell, Chris using trolls and/or the CWCki as a reason for violating a restraining order is not going to cut it. I know he used it with the last little incident, but any judge with half a brain stem would realize that it's less about internet bullies and more about a 29-year-old man who should know better just ''not getting it''.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 19:59, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* High Functioning Autism wouldn't play a huge role here, simply because it's not a truly debilitating disorder these days, and there is no way a judge would even consider the argument that "trolls" made him do it.... Chris having trolls doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong and illegal. It'll actually be pretty hilarious if he tries to use this site for proof against trolls simply for the fact that there are a lot of things Chris himself has 'donated' to the site that could get him in even more trouble... for example: does Mr.Snyder know that Chris has stated, on the internet, that Snyder is a child molester and has potentially fiddled with his own kids? Yeah, that won't go over too well. The way things are looking, if Chris is found guilty of any of these; he'll see jail/prison time for sure (if only because he will be unable to pay his huge fees and fines) Barb is probably in the same boat. Sadly, another thing to point out is that if they have to get repo-ed to pay for anything, the county will finally have to deal with their horrendous hoarding problem and will probably condemn the house, just as Bob had feared. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:38, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*It all depends on how his lawyer wants to play it. Is Robert Bell acting as a PD for his pro bono work? Either way, I'd bet that either his lawyer is so blase in regards to the situation and/or so overwrought by his other cases that he'll just advise Chris to plead guilty with mitigating circumstances (autism, grief, etc.), or, it's always possible that Robert Bell's a total shark who'll get Chris off with a slap on the wrist, yet again. Of course, there's always the possibility that he'll be committed.
I know Chris and Barb have four cars (one of which is a Jag according to one of the Kacey calls) so they could hock those for some CWC cash (see that thing I did?), and lord knows that Chris and Barb probably have at least, AT LEAST, $2000 worth of useless shit lying around their house, but, somehow, I'm in doubt that Barb'll be able to rouse Chris off of his ass for long enough to get him to help her (and himself).
I've got to admit, I feel sort of sorry for Chris and Barb. Bob just died and lord knows that you never know what you have until it's gone. Their actions are inexcusable, yeah, but still, it's horrible that things have to end this way, if that's what ends up happening. I was, I guess naively, hoping that something would seep through Chris's skull and he'd just gracefully leave the internet and take some steps to improve himself, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. He should thank God that's he's not going to be going to prison if he does have to be incarcerated. He'd get passed around like fucking candy there.

tl;dr Chris is fucked any-which-way [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:18, 6 November 2011 (PST)

: It's worse than that. If Chris is foolish enough to reference this site, he's going to be pointing the court toward evidence that he has no regrets on this incident, since the first thing he did after getting out of jail was to crow about his crimes here. Any decent prosecutor would then dig up his youtube videos, handily linked throughout the site, and reveal that he's got a history of antisocial behavior, the most recent threats and attempted extortion only just predating his father's passing (and thereby casting doubt on grounds for his recent grief).

: His best chance is an insanity plea, which is difficult to prove on people who can communicate more clearly then Chris can. Ironically, the clearest indicators -- his beliefs that his creations are real -- may come off as so ludicrous that the plea might get dismissed.

: Failing that, he'll be extremely lucky to get a plea bargain down to some serious community service and probation. Unfortunately for him, his history with Snyder in specific shows how extraordinarily lenient everyone's already been. Any decent prosecutor will insist on such as part of their arguments, and should Chris' previous proud attempts at vehicular assault enter play, he's almost certainly going to have jail time as part of a plea. Even disregarding that, though, I'd be surprised if Chris actually made any efforts should he get probation and community service, as his history shows he'd ignore both, forcing the issue of jail time.

: Sadly enough, that's actually the extent of the good news for him. The bad news is that Chris' pride and arrogance may lead him to refuse any such pleas -- in his mind, he's neither insane nor has any of his behavior ever been anything less than justified -- and worse, he may even try to represent himself. Should that happen, his only real shot is to have Barb legally declare him as incompetent. While at first blush that sounds like it'd lead to him getting off on insanity after all, it'd rely primarily on Barb's testimony to go through -- and Barb's already supported him enough to be his accomplice.

: The primary factors now on whether Chris is going to jail are his county's prison system, his prosecutor's diligence, and how much ridiculous bullshit Chris serves up in his own defense. If he acts out in court, continues his libelous antics outside of it, or submits anything damaging in his "defense," he screws himself to oblivion. Hell, if Snyder comes here, or if someone contacts him and points him our way, the prosecution would have a field day.

: Quite frankly, this is so stacked against him I'm almost of a mind Barb did this intentionally to try to get the state to take custody of him before she dies, too, sad as it is to say.

: [[User:Kestrel|Kestrel]] 00:25, 7 November 2011 (PST)

*None of this is really relevant to the article, so next person who contributes something that doesn't relate to this article gets banned. You can talk about it elsewhere like on [http://cwcki.yuku.com our forums].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Article Title and Redirects==

We need to get a more fitting title set up as well as some redirects. I'm not sure how, exactly... But something like "Arrest" for a redirect. My creative juices are currently burnt out so I leave this all up to you for tonight.
:The subsection regarding the incident on the GAMe PLACe page called it "Strike Three, You're Out!" Something along those lines, perhaps?--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:16, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:We are a Wiki at the end of the day - and it's less about getting a "fitting" or amusing title, and more about getting a sensible one. I chose this one based on other articles about specific events (mostly significant videos that were not given a particularly unique name by Chris). "Keep It Simple" is the golden rule here, so any renames should be both simple and yet, unique enough for people to be easily able to find it. I'm totally open to better suggestions for the article title though, as I said near the top of this discussion page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 03:17, 7 November 2011 (PST)
Title suggestion: 2011 GAMe PLACe Altercation and Trial. Given that Chris ''is'' going before the grand jury however, we need to keep in mind this article is probably going to need to be split eventually as this whole thing is probably far from over. --[[User:Derk|Derk]] 10:04, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

==Where==
Did someone know exactly where the trial will take place (ie some court on Chalottesville i presume)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 10:25, 7 November 2011
*[http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Charlottesville/home.html Charlottesville Circuit Court] most likely? The circuit court has jurisdiction over all felonies and that is where a jury trial would be held. Unfortunately on their [http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html case lookup] page, that court isn't in the list. [[User:Penman28|Penman28]] 09:55, 8 November 2011 (PST)
*Considering that the charges are filed under "Charlottesville General District Court" I'm gonna guess thats where things are going down. --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 10:49, 8 November 2011 (PST)

== Chris's Account ==

Is it worth mentioning anything about this "CWC Michael Snyder Interview"? I looked it up on youtube and it's originally from 2010; so it's not really recent, nor does it pertain to anything Chris is talking about. He doesn't even say he wants to lore Chris into the Place; he actually says "We have a Pokemon Tournament the 22nd, I really hope Chris doesn't try to show up... That'd be really bad." I guess what I'm getting at is this: would it be worth putting in a small summary about the video Chris is saying will get him off the hook? Or do we just leave it and if people want to see it they can look it up themselves? (I really wish we could get Mr. Snyder's accounts of the happenings as well, just to compare the two.) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 9 November 2011 (PST)

I removed that section since it isn't 100% confirmed to be Chris yet (and in the case he does - he reads the Wiki). If it gets re-added I'd say just link it and add a Wiki page if there isn't already. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:15, 9 November 2011 (PST)

== Removed the email ==

I went ahead and removed the halfsie-confirmed email I posted in the forums, since it's not fully confirmed to be by Chris and just not someone from Inner/PVCC in-the-know (and for the agent's sake). Just reverse if nobody gives a fuck. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:11, 9 November 2011 (PST)
* I do believe that someone said "Tito and champthom just confirmed that some events match up". So maybe keep it but add some kind of disclaimer saying we don't have Christian Weston Chandler's confirmation; but some highly reliable sources can confirm that events match up?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:52, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Either way, the fact that Chris reads the Wiki remains and leaving the email up compromises a field agent, and genereal consensus is on the forums (in that topic) is that we keep it down until later. PVCC trolls have also asked that it doesn't go up yet on /cwc/. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 16:19, 9 November 2011 (PST)

*There is truth to it, I will tell you that, but I'd prefer it if someone can say something solid about it as in "This is from Chris 100%." I suppose we could leave it with a disclaimer that "According to Tito, this is true" so people can interpret it however they'd like, but I'd prefer that we wait until we can get a solid confirmation about it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:50, 9 November 2011 (PST)

** I'm more concerned with it impacting operations. I don't want to interfere with any plans already in play... I say keep it down until we get confirmation that saga is over --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:22, 9 November 2011 (PST)

We do get information such as emails from offical channels, so I support the motion to omit the material that was added from the article for the timebeing until we are sure of a reliable source. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:50, 10 November 2011 (PST)
:This is still our stance for now - we await further verifiable evidence that this account is verbatim what Chris said. /cwc/ and ED are not reliable enough sources. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:29, 17 November 2011 (PST)

== End of the world ==

If Chris is sentenced in December 2011, next month, that means that if he receives the minimum sentence for his felony count, that means that he will get out of prison on December 2012, the same time that the world is supposed to end. How interesting. --[[User:TheJerk|TheJerk]] 12:56, 12 November 2011 (PST)
:Eh - it's sort of interesting in a theoretical way. Speaking of theories - they don't belong on article talk pages. Please use the links at the top of this talk page to find better places for pointing out or discussing similar things. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:48, 12 November 2011 (PST)

== GAME PLACe ==

The PLACe has changed names now, should we be using the new name in this article I think so, or ate least referred to as "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (Formorly The GAMe PLACe)" for accuracy
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 13:44, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:I think in this case, similar to Chris' vs Chris's, established convention ought to take precedence over accuracy. I don't think the majority of people would know what "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" is, and I don't think there's much need for them to know the new name. The rename probably deserves a mention in the relevant article, but I don't think everything needs to be readjusted. If Chris ever starts referring to the store explicitly by its new name, renaming things might make it easier on readers, but until then, I don't think it's really beneficial. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 13:52, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:*Totally agree Freecell. It definitely should be mentioned in the article, but a name change would just complicate things. And for some reason, I have a really weird feeling that Chris would never call it anything other than "The PLACe". --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:51, 22 November 2011 (PST)

== Court Liaison??? ==

Is there anybody who is planning on going to the courthouse on December 15th in order to document Chris and Snorlax's appearances for us? Perhaps a live blog of the proceedings would be in order? Just saying. --[[User:Osideguy92|Osideguy92]] 20:56, 11 December 2011 (PST)
*Check the CWCki Forum.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:03, 12 December 2011 (PST)

== Rob Bell article needed ==

We need to have an article here on the CWCki about Bell's involvement in the court cases. His involvement in all this is too minor for the other sites. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 21:01, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:All we know about him is that he's representing Chris in court. Unless there's more info out there (such as why he's representing Chris; was he court-appointed or hired by Barb) then I don't see why we should give him his own article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:38, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:We already deleted an article that was created for Rob Bell as we currently don't have enough information on him* to warrant a solo article. For now, any things about him relevant to this case can be documented on this article.
:(*and no, this isn't a call for people to go digging for information on him - we should keep all details on the CWCki related to either Chris or the court case.) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:09, 20 December 2011 (PST)
::we know this:
::"Rob Bell is an honors graduate of the University of Virginia and the University of Virginia Law School. At the Law School, Mr. Bell served as the Executive Editor of the Virginia Law Review and was selected for the Order of the Coif.

::Mr. Bell served for five years as a state prosecutor in Orange County, Virginia. During this time he prosecuted thousands of criminal and traffic cases.

::In 2001, Mr. Bell was elected to the Virginia General Assembly as the Delegate from the 58th District. As Delegate, he serves on the Courts for Justice Committee and the Virginia State Crime Commission. He has authored numerous criminal laws, including laws dealing with drunk driving, sex crimes, and criminal procedure.

::Mr. Bell joined Davidson & Kitzmann in 2005 and tries cases in all state and federal courts.

::His wife, his son Robbie, and his daughter Evelyn live in Albemarle County."
::http://www.dklawyers.com/bio_rbell.htm
::and this http://www.nbc29.com/story/16202740/rob-bell-enters-attorney-general-race [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::Cool. Anything on him relevant to Chris? No? Well okay then. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:17, 20 December 2011 (PST)

::::He is Chris's lawyer, he deserves a stub. more info will come.. The actual trial should give us some information. besides http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:ShortPages [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:50, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::::No he doesn't - not a this time. I have spoken. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== Does this saga have a name? ==

If not i would call it the "Attack on C-Ville (or CWC-Ville) saga.. Is this even a saga? it certainly meets what i would think are the criteria. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:14, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* I'd say it's a part of the ongoing GAMe PLACe Saga. --[[User:SonichuLives|SonichuLives]] 13:32, 3 January 2012 (PST)
** ok the reason i ask is that the graphic for the saga page (and the page itself) needs to be updated to include 2012 stuff[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:49, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== So what happened on Jan 5? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 17:06, 6 January 2012 (PST)

== Protection Order ==

Should it be mentioned in the article what the Protection Order does? Or should we just link it to a definition? A Protection Order for Snyder means that Chris will no longer (for the duration of the order) visit Snyder's place of business, Chris will no longer be able to talk with Snyder, he will no longer be allowed to threaten Snyder in any way (even through internet means), and he will not be able to basically do anything else that involves Snyder (this includes using his name on sites like Facebook). IF Chris is caught doing any of these prohibited things, it can be considered a civil OR criminal offense and Chris will be given a jail/prison sentence along with a fine. I'm thinking this is a very important development for the Chris/Snyder relationship; but I'm not sure if we should directly reference the Protection Order in this article. Thoughts? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:59, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

*That would depend on what priorities take precedence. We could: 1. elaborate rather deeply on the subject and inform CWCki readers right now; or 2. wager Chris and/or Barb don't know about what is entailed, and omit this information in hopes that these penalties will be realized. I personally favor the former myself. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 15:10, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

== Time to split ==

This article either needs a new name, or its time to split it. October 28 2011 has long past and the events of THAT day are DONE. This article seemed like the best place to have all the court info at first but with all the continuances and stuff happening between then and now, this has become more of a saga and i think it should be treated as such. 'Court Saga' is a better name, its more open and less date specific. This article spans 7 months yet it bears as its title a single date in October of 2011. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:55, 10 April 2012 (PDT)
: Nothing has been done about this yet, i suggest that the event be given a name and that information about this event be split. One page for the events of that day (this one) and a second page that outlines the court the entire situation. Otherwise it may be easier to just rename this article to something that is more fitting for a page that deals with more than just one date. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:16, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
So do it. --[[User:Mr Derp|Mr Derp]] 12:03, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
:* my thoughts don't mean shit...but here it goes. 1) if it bothers you that much that the title of this article says 28 October 2011 because, as you said, this has gone over 7 months now; than change it. If someone else doesn't like it, they'll change it... and those that don't care will just leave it be. 2) Personally, I think it should just stay 28 October 2011 because that's what it is... Now, I'm going to go into a dangerous road here, but please, don't take offense. 9/11 (for example) is the day thousands died; yet it is still commonly known as 9/11 or September 11th. It's not 9/11/01, and not usually September 11th, 2001. It's also not called, The Day Planes Hit The Twin Towers And The Pentagon And A Place Near A Farm And Thousands Died (Saga);. It's just not, and again, I'm not trying to start something, I'm just using 9/11 as an example that sometimes things are known simply because the DATE itself was important, not just the days/months/years that came with it... I really think that this 28 October 2011 should be left as it is because that's what it will be known for... the day Chris will finally have to pay the piper (so to speak). "Court Saga" doesn't really sound good simply because this isn't the first time Chris has gone to Court, so unless we insert the other event as well...it just won't work. Would you leave stuff dealing with Ivy or Jackie out of their Sagas? Probably not. I dunno, this is long winded and probably a lot "forum"-y talk, but that's what I think.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:28, 11 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm gonna change the name [[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 13:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
Once I work out how o do it.. [[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 13:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:Moving, splitting, and merging are things only admins can do. Trying to move it manually would remove the page history, and so would be reverted quickly. You'll have to wait. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:49, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

: What name? What saga is this? [[User:Axe|Axe]] 00:45, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
::Felony Saga? Hit & Run Saga? Courthouse Saga? Trial Saga? Justice Saga?--[[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 15:48, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

==Sentencing==
Where did the details regarding Chris and Barb's sentencing come from? I saw it on Da Update and moved the info over from there.--[[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 00:35, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Most likely The Official Website for Virginia's Judicial System. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 00:59, 11 July 2012 (PDT)Alopax
:** At the time of this posting, that site has nothing updated for the Chandler's, in fact, it still says they have an active case and their arraignment date set. What I don't understand is this, I was under the impression that an arraignment was only for the prosecuted to plead guilty, not guilty, no contest, ext. I thought there was a different date all together for sentencing. But of course, this article says there was a plea bargain in place, which would probably happen during the arraignment. The only way I think we know this is through the troll that was there that day. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:23, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

==A Quick Question==

I understand as part of Christian's and Barb's plea deal, they have to pay Mike's medical expenses. Was there any wording in the plea that indicated that Mike was settling his civil case against them in exchange for this settlement, or is his civil suit still ongoing? I know it's not entirely strange for civil suits to be settled in criminal courts in exchange for plea deals, but I can't find any information about whether Mike's civil suit is still ongoing or not. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 21:32, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Snyder received the restraining order again the Chandler's during the Civil Suit. This actually didn't go to trail, so I'm assuming it was a plea deal, kinda like "I won't press charges as long as you stay the hell away from me" type thing. The plea bargain for the criminal charges was probably an add-in to make the deal look better and to show that the Chandler's have some remorse over their actions (though, as we can see, Chris has no remorse for what he's done to Snyder and is only upset because he got in trouble). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 13:29, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

== Cyan & Indigo's report ==

Just as a reminder, only [[Help:A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Cite_only_publicly_available_media|publicly available media]] is acceptable to cite on the CWCki. This is to promote transparency and as it stands, the CWCki Forums require registration and people shouldn't have to register an account to check out the report.

However, I've just asked Cyan if we can use her report here and if she consents, we'll make an article for it in the same vein as [[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer]] and other verified reports of Chris sightings. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:13, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

Talk:28 October 2011

2012-07-11T23:23:19Z

4Macie: /* Sentencing */

{{Not A Forum}}
== Proposed article ==

This is my proposed solution to how we manage and collect information pertaining to the events of October 28th 2011.

To-do:
* Add categories
* Add more verifiable information
* <s>Screencap the pages from the court website for preservation.</s>

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: Do we have a field agent that can attend the court hearing? That should give us the entire story behind all of this --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 13:15, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: I live 2 hours away, my company pays my gas, and if I am not too busy with a lady, I could attend this court hearing if given the proper location of the hearing. [[User:Dickbuns|Dickbuns]] 02:31, 26 February 2012 (PST)

Shouldn't it be mentioned this is the first (major) event since Bob died? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:43, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Is it noteworthy enough to note that their arraignments (or the time that the defendants are told of their crimes and to take guilty or not guilty pleas) have come to pass and according to their records, they are listed as "continued" which in this case means that they probably pled "not guilty" and are now facing their day in court? The only other explanation of "continued" being listed that I found was this, "continued in court cases generally means that they (defendant) plead 'not guilty' or that a plea deal/plea bargain is in the works". I just thought it'd be a note worthy fact-- that they are either planning a deal, or that they think they are not guilty. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:46, 7 November 2011 (PST)
:The article is already rife with speculation, and until we see court documents or other documents - we don't know the exact circumstances surrounding the charges, the pleas given (if any), medical considerations or other reasons for deferral. I'd rather we waited until we could prove the reason for deferral under the "continued" reason before we document it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 7 November 2011 (PST)

===Title===
Shouldn't the title be Americanized? September 11th isn't referred to as 11/9.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:06, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:We have a few articles with titles like this ([[12_October_2009|e.g.]]), so while I don't know if it's "right" or not, much like "Chris's", it's just become a standard. Good eye, though. I didn't catch that it wasn't Americanised. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 16:11, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:I based it on articles like [[6 June 2010]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:: Chris with felonly charges? Ohhh, Santa came early this year, and goddamn, did he deliver~! Anywho; if it was Chris on his own, it might've been dismissed like last time, but with Barb involved too, this is more concrete and serious: I propose that the formal title of the page (or saga, if it comes to that) be the name of the court case (Snyder or People vs Chandler, whatever it may be) when we get it. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:45, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and come to think of it - we Eurofag dates - see [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#When_it_comes_to_dates.2C_be_a_Eurofag|here]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:06, 20 December 2011 (PST)

==x==
Thank you based God [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 16:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Explanation ==

Am I reading this right? Chris got an Assault charge (assumption being it has to do with Snyder) but Barb got one too... but for a police officer, because her day in court was Oct 31, is there any information about what "assault" on the officer she actually did? Does anyone know what "complainant : CASON" means? And where can the stuff about him being in jail for two days be found? (or was this something Chris himself gave out?) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:08, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Edit: ah, the actual trial for the assault isn't until December, so we probably won't find out what she did until then... It was some civil case between her and Snyder that occurred Oct 31-Nov 1--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
** Oct. 31st was her formal arraignment, where I guess they informed her of the charges against her and set a court date for a criminal trial. Whether or not Mr. Snyder will file a civil suit remains to be seen, but somehow I doubt that her wants to have anything more to do with the Chandlers if he can help it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:29, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
***(Messed up original links, but)Snyder's pressing civil charges against both, as both of his civil cases can be seen on the Virginia General District Courts site. Also, assault can be something as simple as a verbal threat, don't know if that was the case here, but it's something to keep in mind. [[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:36, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

== Who paid bail? ==

Is there any way to find out who paid bail? Most likely it was one of his extended family, but still. --[[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 01:33, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
*It could have also been a bondsman, which is pretty likely. That's their whole business. --[[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:38, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

==Civil Charges==
Anyone have any addition info about the civil charges from Mike? http://i.imgur.com/Fz281.png It says they were in court on Nov 1st but the case is listed as "Other Judgement" and a lot of the other fields are empty. Did Mike drop the case? --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 18:12, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*Saw this on /cwc/, it says [http://www.facebook.com/Newsplex/posts/10150348599173564 here] a person was injured, it could have been Mike. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 22:56, 10 November 2011 (PST)
* We still await more concrete and reliable sources about the exact series of events. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:29, 11 November 2011 (PST)

==Chris's defense?==

Not sure if the Autism card will completely save him this time, espectially for a felony. But could his years of being trolled actually give him a valid claim of "harassment". There certainly is an ocean of information posted online about him, much of which is blatant insults towards him. Any chance the CWCki could get in any sort of trouble for instigating these actions by Chris?

Also, may want to bring up that psych evaluation he had back in 2004 when he was kicked out of school. Could that prove any insight to his reasoning behind this incident; and could it maybe help/hurt his case?--[[User:Jcrowley1985|Jcrowley1985]] 19:36, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* No. As far as I can tell, Chris using trolls and/or the CWCki as a reason for violating a restraining order is not going to cut it. I know he used it with the last little incident, but any judge with half a brain stem would realize that it's less about internet bullies and more about a 29-year-old man who should know better just ''not getting it''.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 19:59, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* High Functioning Autism wouldn't play a huge role here, simply because it's not a truly debilitating disorder these days, and there is no way a judge would even consider the argument that "trolls" made him do it.... Chris having trolls doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong and illegal. It'll actually be pretty hilarious if he tries to use this site for proof against trolls simply for the fact that there are a lot of things Chris himself has 'donated' to the site that could get him in even more trouble... for example: does Mr.Snyder know that Chris has stated, on the internet, that Snyder is a child molester and has potentially fiddled with his own kids? Yeah, that won't go over too well. The way things are looking, if Chris is found guilty of any of these; he'll see jail/prison time for sure (if only because he will be unable to pay his huge fees and fines) Barb is probably in the same boat. Sadly, another thing to point out is that if they have to get repo-ed to pay for anything, the county will finally have to deal with their horrendous hoarding problem and will probably condemn the house, just as Bob had feared. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:38, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*It all depends on how his lawyer wants to play it. Is Robert Bell acting as a PD for his pro bono work? Either way, I'd bet that either his lawyer is so blase in regards to the situation and/or so overwrought by his other cases that he'll just advise Chris to plead guilty with mitigating circumstances (autism, grief, etc.), or, it's always possible that Robert Bell's a total shark who'll get Chris off with a slap on the wrist, yet again. Of course, there's always the possibility that he'll be committed.
I know Chris and Barb have four cars (one of which is a Jag according to one of the Kacey calls) so they could hock those for some CWC cash (see that thing I did?), and lord knows that Chris and Barb probably have at least, AT LEAST, $2000 worth of useless shit lying around their house, but, somehow, I'm in doubt that Barb'll be able to rouse Chris off of his ass for long enough to get him to help her (and himself).
I've got to admit, I feel sort of sorry for Chris and Barb. Bob just died and lord knows that you never know what you have until it's gone. Their actions are inexcusable, yeah, but still, it's horrible that things have to end this way, if that's what ends up happening. I was, I guess naively, hoping that something would seep through Chris's skull and he'd just gracefully leave the internet and take some steps to improve himself, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. He should thank God that's he's not going to be going to prison if he does have to be incarcerated. He'd get passed around like fucking candy there.

tl;dr Chris is fucked any-which-way [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:18, 6 November 2011 (PST)

: It's worse than that. If Chris is foolish enough to reference this site, he's going to be pointing the court toward evidence that he has no regrets on this incident, since the first thing he did after getting out of jail was to crow about his crimes here. Any decent prosecutor would then dig up his youtube videos, handily linked throughout the site, and reveal that he's got a history of antisocial behavior, the most recent threats and attempted extortion only just predating his father's passing (and thereby casting doubt on grounds for his recent grief).

: His best chance is an insanity plea, which is difficult to prove on people who can communicate more clearly then Chris can. Ironically, the clearest indicators -- his beliefs that his creations are real -- may come off as so ludicrous that the plea might get dismissed.

: Failing that, he'll be extremely lucky to get a plea bargain down to some serious community service and probation. Unfortunately for him, his history with Snyder in specific shows how extraordinarily lenient everyone's already been. Any decent prosecutor will insist on such as part of their arguments, and should Chris' previous proud attempts at vehicular assault enter play, he's almost certainly going to have jail time as part of a plea. Even disregarding that, though, I'd be surprised if Chris actually made any efforts should he get probation and community service, as his history shows he'd ignore both, forcing the issue of jail time.

: Sadly enough, that's actually the extent of the good news for him. The bad news is that Chris' pride and arrogance may lead him to refuse any such pleas -- in his mind, he's neither insane nor has any of his behavior ever been anything less than justified -- and worse, he may even try to represent himself. Should that happen, his only real shot is to have Barb legally declare him as incompetent. While at first blush that sounds like it'd lead to him getting off on insanity after all, it'd rely primarily on Barb's testimony to go through -- and Barb's already supported him enough to be his accomplice.

: The primary factors now on whether Chris is going to jail are his county's prison system, his prosecutor's diligence, and how much ridiculous bullshit Chris serves up in his own defense. If he acts out in court, continues his libelous antics outside of it, or submits anything damaging in his "defense," he screws himself to oblivion. Hell, if Snyder comes here, or if someone contacts him and points him our way, the prosecution would have a field day.

: Quite frankly, this is so stacked against him I'm almost of a mind Barb did this intentionally to try to get the state to take custody of him before she dies, too, sad as it is to say.

: [[User:Kestrel|Kestrel]] 00:25, 7 November 2011 (PST)

*None of this is really relevant to the article, so next person who contributes something that doesn't relate to this article gets banned. You can talk about it elsewhere like on [http://cwcki.yuku.com our forums].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Article Title and Redirects==

We need to get a more fitting title set up as well as some redirects. I'm not sure how, exactly... But something like "Arrest" for a redirect. My creative juices are currently burnt out so I leave this all up to you for tonight.
:The subsection regarding the incident on the GAMe PLACe page called it "Strike Three, You're Out!" Something along those lines, perhaps?--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:16, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:We are a Wiki at the end of the day - and it's less about getting a "fitting" or amusing title, and more about getting a sensible one. I chose this one based on other articles about specific events (mostly significant videos that were not given a particularly unique name by Chris). "Keep It Simple" is the golden rule here, so any renames should be both simple and yet, unique enough for people to be easily able to find it. I'm totally open to better suggestions for the article title though, as I said near the top of this discussion page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 03:17, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Where==
Did someone know exactly where the trial will take place (ie some court on Chalottesville i presume)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 10:25, 7 November 2011
*[http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Charlottesville/home.html Charlottesville Circuit Court] most likely? The circuit court has jurisdiction over all felonies and that is where a jury trial would be held. Unfortunately on their [http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html case lookup] page, that court isn't in the list. [[User:Penman28|Penman28]] 09:55, 8 November 2011 (PST)
*Considering that the charges are filed under "Charlottesville General District Court" I'm gonna guess thats where things are going down. --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 10:49, 8 November 2011 (PST)

== Chris's Account ==

Is it worth mentioning anything about this "CWC Michael Snyder Interview"? I looked it up on youtube and it's originally from 2010; so it's not really recent, nor does it pertain to anything Chris is talking about. He doesn't even say he wants to lore Chris into the Place; he actually says "We have a Pokemon Tournament the 22nd, I really hope Chris doesn't try to show up... That'd be really bad." I guess what I'm getting at is this: would it be worth putting in a small summary about the video Chris is saying will get him off the hook? Or do we just leave it and if people want to see it they can look it up themselves? (I really wish we could get Mr. Snyder's accounts of the happenings as well, just to compare the two.) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 9 November 2011 (PST)

I removed that section since it isn't 100% confirmed to be Chris yet (and in the case he does - he reads the Wiki). If it gets re-added I'd say just link it and add a Wiki page if there isn't already. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:15, 9 November 2011 (PST)

== Removed the email ==

I went ahead and removed the halfsie-confirmed email I posted in the forums, since it's not fully confirmed to be by Chris and just not someone from Inner/PVCC in-the-know (and for the agent's sake). Just reverse if nobody gives a fuck. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:11, 9 November 2011 (PST)
* I do believe that someone said "Tito and champthom just confirmed that some events match up". So maybe keep it but add some kind of disclaimer saying we don't have Christian Weston Chandler's confirmation; but some highly reliable sources can confirm that events match up?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:52, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Either way, the fact that Chris reads the Wiki remains and leaving the email up compromises a field agent, and genereal consensus is on the forums (in that topic) is that we keep it down until later. PVCC trolls have also asked that it doesn't go up yet on /cwc/. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 16:19, 9 November 2011 (PST)

*There is truth to it, I will tell you that, but I'd prefer it if someone can say something solid about it as in "This is from Chris 100%." I suppose we could leave it with a disclaimer that "According to Tito, this is true" so people can interpret it however they'd like, but I'd prefer that we wait until we can get a solid confirmation about it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:50, 9 November 2011 (PST)

** I'm more concerned with it impacting operations. I don't want to interfere with any plans already in play... I say keep it down until we get confirmation that saga is over --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:22, 9 November 2011 (PST)

We do get information such as emails from offical channels, so I support the motion to omit the material that was added from the article for the timebeing until we are sure of a reliable source. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:50, 10 November 2011 (PST)
:This is still our stance for now - we await further verifiable evidence that this account is verbatim what Chris said. /cwc/ and ED are not reliable enough sources. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:29, 17 November 2011 (PST)

== End of the world ==

If Chris is sentenced in December 2011, next month, that means that if he receives the minimum sentence for his felony count, that means that he will get out of prison on December 2012, the same time that the world is supposed to end. How interesting. --[[User:TheJerk|TheJerk]] 12:56, 12 November 2011 (PST)
:Eh - it's sort of interesting in a theoretical way. Speaking of theories - they don't belong on article talk pages. Please use the links at the top of this talk page to find better places for pointing out or discussing similar things. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:48, 12 November 2011 (PST)

== GAME PLACe ==

The PLACe has changed names now, should we be using the new name in this article I think so, or ate least referred to as "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (Formorly The GAMe PLACe)" for accuracy
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 13:44, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:I think in this case, similar to Chris' vs Chris's, established convention ought to take precedence over accuracy. I don't think the majority of people would know what "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" is, and I don't think there's much need for them to know the new name. The rename probably deserves a mention in the relevant article, but I don't think everything needs to be readjusted. If Chris ever starts referring to the store explicitly by its new name, renaming things might make it easier on readers, but until then, I don't think it's really beneficial. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 13:52, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:*Totally agree Freecell. It definitely should be mentioned in the article, but a name change would just complicate things. And for some reason, I have a really weird feeling that Chris would never call it anything other than "The PLACe". --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:51, 22 November 2011 (PST)

== Court Liaison??? ==

Is there anybody who is planning on going to the courthouse on December 15th in order to document Chris and Snorlax's appearances for us? Perhaps a live blog of the proceedings would be in order? Just saying. --[[User:Osideguy92|Osideguy92]] 20:56, 11 December 2011 (PST)
*Check the CWCki Forum.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:03, 12 December 2011 (PST)

== Rob Bell article needed ==

We need to have an article here on the CWCki about Bell's involvement in the court cases. His involvement in all this is too minor for the other sites. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 21:01, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:All we know about him is that he's representing Chris in court. Unless there's more info out there (such as why he's representing Chris; was he court-appointed or hired by Barb) then I don't see why we should give him his own article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:38, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:We already deleted an article that was created for Rob Bell as we currently don't have enough information on him* to warrant a solo article. For now, any things about him relevant to this case can be documented on this article.
:(*and no, this isn't a call for people to go digging for information on him - we should keep all details on the CWCki related to either Chris or the court case.) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:09, 20 December 2011 (PST)
::we know this:
::"Rob Bell is an honors graduate of the University of Virginia and the University of Virginia Law School. At the Law School, Mr. Bell served as the Executive Editor of the Virginia Law Review and was selected for the Order of the Coif.

::Mr. Bell served for five years as a state prosecutor in Orange County, Virginia. During this time he prosecuted thousands of criminal and traffic cases.

::In 2001, Mr. Bell was elected to the Virginia General Assembly as the Delegate from the 58th District. As Delegate, he serves on the Courts for Justice Committee and the Virginia State Crime Commission. He has authored numerous criminal laws, including laws dealing with drunk driving, sex crimes, and criminal procedure.

::Mr. Bell joined Davidson & Kitzmann in 2005 and tries cases in all state and federal courts.

::His wife, his son Robbie, and his daughter Evelyn live in Albemarle County."
::http://www.dklawyers.com/bio_rbell.htm
::and this http://www.nbc29.com/story/16202740/rob-bell-enters-attorney-general-race [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::Cool. Anything on him relevant to Chris? No? Well okay then. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:17, 20 December 2011 (PST)

::::He is Chris's lawyer, he deserves a stub. more info will come.. The actual trial should give us some information. besides http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:ShortPages [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:50, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::::No he doesn't - not a this time. I have spoken. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== Does this saga have a name? ==

If not i would call it the "Attack on C-Ville (or CWC-Ville) saga.. Is this even a saga? it certainly meets what i would think are the criteria. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:14, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* I'd say it's a part of the ongoing GAMe PLACe Saga. --[[User:SonichuLives|SonichuLives]] 13:32, 3 January 2012 (PST)
** ok the reason i ask is that the graphic for the saga page (and the page itself) needs to be updated to include 2012 stuff[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:49, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== So what happened on Jan 5? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 17:06, 6 January 2012 (PST)

== Protection Order ==

Should it be mentioned in the article what the Protection Order does? Or should we just link it to a definition? A Protection Order for Snyder means that Chris will no longer (for the duration of the order) visit Snyder's place of business, Chris will no longer be able to talk with Snyder, he will no longer be allowed to threaten Snyder in any way (even through internet means), and he will not be able to basically do anything else that involves Snyder (this includes using his name on sites like Facebook). IF Chris is caught doing any of these prohibited things, it can be considered a civil OR criminal offense and Chris will be given a jail/prison sentence along with a fine. I'm thinking this is a very important development for the Chris/Snyder relationship; but I'm not sure if we should directly reference the Protection Order in this article. Thoughts? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:59, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

*That would depend on what priorities take precedence. We could: 1. elaborate rather deeply on the subject and inform CWCki readers right now; or 2. wager Chris and/or Barb don't know about what is entailed, and omit this information in hopes that these penalties will be realized. I personally favor the former myself. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 15:10, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

== Time to split ==

This article either needs a new name, or its time to split it. October 28 2011 has long past and the events of THAT day are DONE. This article seemed like the best place to have all the court info at first but with all the continuances and stuff happening between then and now, this has become more of a saga and i think it should be treated as such. 'Court Saga' is a better name, its more open and less date specific. This article spans 7 months yet it bears as its title a single date in October of 2011. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:55, 10 April 2012 (PDT)
: Nothing has been done about this yet, i suggest that the event be given a name and that information about this event be split. One page for the events of that day (this one) and a second page that outlines the court the entire situation. Otherwise it may be easier to just rename this article to something that is more fitting for a page that deals with more than just one date. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:16, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
So do it. --[[User:Mr Derp|Mr Derp]] 12:03, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
:* my thoughts don't mean shit...but here it goes. 1) if it bothers you that much that the title of this article says 28 October 2011 because, as you said, this has gone over 7 months now; than change it. If someone else doesn't like it, they'll change it... and those that don't care will just leave it be. 2) Personally, I think it should just stay 28 October 2011 because that's what it is... Now, I'm going to go into a dangerous road here, but please, don't take offense. 9/11 (for example) is the day thousands died; yet it is still commonly known as 9/11 or September 11th. It's not 9/11/01, and not usually September 11th, 2001. It's also not called, The Day Planes Hit The Twin Towers And The Pentagon And A Place Near A Farm And Thousands Died (Saga);. It's just not, and again, I'm not trying to start something, I'm just using 9/11 as an example that sometimes things are known simply because the DATE itself was important, not just the days/months/years that came with it... I really think that this 28 October 2011 should be left as it is because that's what it will be known for... the day Chris will finally have to pay the piper (so to speak). "Court Saga" doesn't really sound good simply because this isn't the first time Chris has gone to Court, so unless we insert the other event as well...it just won't work. Would you leave stuff dealing with Ivy or Jackie out of their Sagas? Probably not. I dunno, this is long winded and probably a lot "forum"-y talk, but that's what I think.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:28, 11 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm gonna change the name [[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 13:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
Once I work out how o do it.. [[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 13:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:Moving, splitting, and merging are things only admins can do. Trying to move it manually would remove the page history, and so would be reverted quickly. You'll have to wait. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:49, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

: What name? What saga is this? [[User:Axe|Axe]] 00:45, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
::Felony Saga? Hit & Run Saga? Courthouse Saga? Trial Saga? Justice Saga?--[[User:Dangdirtylols|Dangdirtylols]] 15:48, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

==Sentencing==
Where did the details regarding Chris and Barb's sentencing come from? I saw it on Da Update and moved the info over from there.--[[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 00:35, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Most likely The Official Website for Virginia's Judicial System. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 00:59, 11 July 2012 (PDT)Alopax
:** At the time of this posting, that site has nothing updated for the Chandler's, in fact, it still says they have an active case and their arraignment date set. What I don't understand is this, I was under the impression that an arraignment was only for the prosecuted to plead guilty, not guilty, no contest, ext. I thought there was a different date all together for sentencing. But of course, this article says there was a plea bargain in place, which would probably happen during the arraignment. The only way I think we know this is through the troll that was there that day. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:23, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

White knight

2012-07-01T03:22:13Z

4Macie: /* Chris may never see the error of his ways */ 1. Freecell deletes it, so you add it back? wtf 2. no, this is not good and not necessary...

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[[Image:Jack's Knight as William Spicer.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Artist's conception. Bad artist, but still.]]

{{quote|Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?|Chris, [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero|CWC Music Video ~ "Holding Out For a Hero"]]}}

'''White knight''' is a term used to describe someone who goes on the Internet to help or defend someone else on the Internet against other people on the Internet out of pity or compassion. White knighting of Chris is especially prevalent because of the unprecedented amount of abuse he has taken, which in turn is caused by Chris's total inability to heed the white knights in his life.

'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his legion of [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme. Counter-trolls are not to be confused with [[anti-troll]]s, who fight trolls in order to get closer to Chris and troll him themselves.

A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being such an epic lulzcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance or even beyond help. The consensus on forums such as the talk page for Chris's [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] article, /cwc/, [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]], and [[Sonichu (IRC chat)|#sonichu]] is that Chris's [[racism]], [[Chris and Sex|homophobia]], and [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]] make him beneath contempt; and that he has consistently refused to take advice given to him in good faith. White knights and counter-trolls are considered to be wasting everyone's time and trolls have little patience for them.

==Motives==

===Pity===
Following the release of Chris's first [[nudes|nude photos]] and the [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] in which he reacted to the loss of his [[medallion]]s and [[Blanca]], many people, including trolls, felt sorry for him. They had not expected it to be possible for him to be trolled so hard or for him to appear so shattered.

===Empathy===
The Internet is full of autistic people, man-children, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris-chan. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his all-consuming need for female companionship or his fervent belief that his homemade comics matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.

BAAAAAAAW! ''[[Kick the Autistic]]'' is a cruel game. Quit it!

===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===
There is ongoing debate about whether Chris is actually [[autism|autistic]]. Regardless, there is clear evidence that he suffers from serious mental deficiencies of some kind.

Chris fails to identify people, a possible sign of [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|Prosopagnosia]]. [[BlueSpike|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't recognize that they were the same person. Pictures of different women were used to depict [[Blanca]], and yet Chris thought they were the same person. Chris believed that pictures of [[Wikipedia:Megan Fox|Megan Fox]] were of [[Wikipedia:Vanessa Hudgens|Vanessa Hudgens]].<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 9|Vanessa AIM Chat IX]]</ref> In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself.<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] - [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Since he probably hasn't "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation regarding why he denies being fat.

Chris cannot "read between the lines" or otherwise interpret subtlety. He interprets ''[[Family Guy]]'' as being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>Anecdote by [[Mimms]].</ref>

Furthermore, Chris's upbringing was anything but ideal. All of these factors and probably many more have helped give us the man-child we know today.

===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, [[BlueSpike]]'s sadistic abuse of his control over Chris [[BLUESPIKE#Encyclopedia_Dramatica_Troll_War|outraged even trolls]]. And, of course, who really has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?

===For the sake of Barbara's sanity===
At this point in time it is safe to say that Chris's remaining parent has been just as fatigued as Chris by the actions of trolls. Some argue that [[Snorlax]] should not have to suffer for his wrongdoings, and therefore think that Chris should be left alone just so she can enjoy the last few years of her life in peace.

==Reasons against white knighting==
===Chris could have ended the trolling whenever he wanted to, but didn't===
Lets face it, all Chris had to do to end the trolling was to just turn off his computer. If he would have done this small step, this whole debacle would have never happened. The trolls had nothing personal against Chris; They just decided he was a worthy target after reading Sonichu and seeing how he spazzed out at his page on Encyclopedia Dramatica. As soon as he would have quit responding to their provocations and quit posting videos of him tard raging on YouTube, the trolls would have just moved on to someone else. Instead, Chris tried to "fight back" against them, in turn revealing more and more information about himself until the trolls knew all of his contact info and all the details of his life. That was when the trolling went past a point of no return, spilling into Chris' personal life so much that there would be absolutely no way for him to ever disassociate himself from it. Even when he was away from the computer, he found himself subjected to trolling by them calling his cell phone, sending him mail and them following him around in public. While the obsessive trolling of Chris was nothing less than shitty, the fact still remains that Chris was the one who allowed them to have such control over his life thanks to him always overreacting to every little provocation and him handing over all his personal information to them.

===Chris lacks empathy himself===
:''See also: [[Chris and death]] and [[Chris and his Ego]].''
Chris cannot put himself in your shoes or accept that you have been where he is. He has no "theory of mind": if you used to be as shy around women as he is today, in his mind the fact that you aren't shy anymore makes your experience inapplicable to his situation. To Chris, the fact you got over it and he hasn't yet makes the two cases entirely different. He doesn't want to solve his problems by trying what worked for you, he only wants you to pity him for having problems, until he magically dreams up [[Dating education|his own solution]].

:'''RocketFox:''' My father died of liver cancer and cirrohosis a day ago ;~; he drank a ton and it hurt him - I'm only 11 and I dunno what to do ;~;
:'''Chris:''' RocketFox, you will soon recover from your father's accident, I guess it is; DO NOT DRINK Alcohol yourself; STAY OFF THAT JUNK.<ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref>

Chris's interpretation of the death of RocketFox's dad as an accident shows that he didn't even bother to look up what cirrhosis is. Immediately afterward, he started talking about a sexy dance.

Chris's reactions to suicide are very telling. After [[Ryan Cash]] died because of Chris, Chris marveled at how much power he had right after he tried to publicly console [[Clyde Cash]].<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate December 28th, 2008]]</ref> When [[Sarah May]] attempted suicide because of Chris, his reasons for her to stay alive were "I'd feel terrible" and "I'd just cry."<ref>[[Mumble 8|Mumble #8]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Shout Out to Sarah May]]</ref> When Chris broke up with [[Ivy]], he somehow concocted, in his head, an assumption that she had committed suicide. Even after having lost so many dear friends to suicide, he still had no problems telling Clyde and [[Jack Thaddeus]] to [[death threats|kill themselves]]. Many people who have had to deal with suicidal people or have lost relatives and friends due to suicides themselves might not exactly find this amusing.

In the [[Common_Questions#22_February_2010|22 February 2010]] edition of the [[CWCipedia]]'s "Common Questions", Chris listed the top ten worst things to have ever happened to him. The deaths of "two True and Good Women who [he] had friendships with," [[PandaHalo]] and [[Sarah Jackson]], ranked seventh. Those tragic events ranked below getting banned from a game store, finding out two people from said store were posting info about him on ED, and having his personal websites hacked.

On [[Twin Falling Towers|1 November 2009]], Chris made a video involving Clyde being as "weak as the Twin Towers" and used his mouse cursor as a plane flying into them.<ref>[[Twin Falling Towers]]</ref>

When Rashid Ali Abdul, an Iranian [[fan]], told him that her country's religious authorities sentenced her to death by beheading for reading ''Sonichu'', Chris said that he was sorry and that the situation was "pitiful".<ref>[[Mailbag 8|Mailbag #8]]</ref>

While some of this can be attributed to Chris's [[autism]], a condition that often results in a lack of empathy, most autistics can at least learn how to express empathy through a combination of carefully reading the emotions of others and thinking about how a situation affects other people. Chris refuses to seek serious counseling or psychiatric help for this sort of thing - but that's another point.

===Autism does not excuse a terrible person===
Chris knows he has trouble understanding non-verbal social cues due to his autism,<ref>[[Quizzes#Autism Quiz]]</ref> and yet he still jumps the gun on interpreting other people's intentions all the time.

Autism, in and of itself, does not create a failure as massive as Chris-Chan. A majority of autistics manage to get psychiatric help for their problem and/or are able to develop social and emotional skills so they can cope with their disability and lead rewarding and rich lives. Yet while Chris acknowledges he has a problem, he refuses to do anything more than see the [[Rocky Shoemaker|pastoral counselor]] at his church, who is not a professional trained in the treatment of autism spectrum disorders.<ref>[[Vivian's AIM chat]]</ref>

Chris is fully capable of understanding the consequences of his actions. He has a sense of morality (even if he often ignores it in favor of his own selfish interests). He would be (and has been) held accountable for his own actions in a court of law (and rightfully so). The fact he is a racist, a homophobe, and a chauvinist have nothing to do with his autism.

===Chris is beyond pity===

[[Image:Chrischantwoface.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's mood is all over the place, even between videos posted shortly after each other. "[[Happy Sonichu Day|Thank you for your support]]"... "[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|Goddamn womanizing raping trollin' stupid pickle-suited n—!]]"]]

Chris is capable of doing some very bad things when provoked, which is a quite understandable (if not acceptable) response to trolling. However, "provocation" in this case doesn't necessarily mean harassment or trolling. Merely disagreeing with Chris or asking him why he does what he does can provoke an attack, up to and including threats of violence and death. When Chris is annoyed, frustrated, or overcome by desire or lust, he's capable of doing [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|''nasty'']] [[Death threats|things]]. Moreover, when Chris loses it, he doesn't think of the consequences of his actions at all, and his expressions of outrage are completely out of proportion to the provocation — often more outrageous in themselves than whatever the trolls did.

Chris [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|insulted little kids]] during card games and scared some of them away from visiting [[The GAMe PLACe]]. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]], who frequented The GAMe PLACe and knew Chris in real life years before he was discovered by the Internet, couldn't list any redeeming qualities he possessed.

Chris sexually harassed a [[Megan|woman]] in real life. Megan made it explicitly clear to him that his physical contact and comments to her were unacceptable, but he continued anyway, convinced that eventually she would learn to love being molested by a mentally ill man-child and become his [[Sweethearts|Sweetheart From The Ground-Up]].

After Megan yelled at Chris for uploading [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingerbanging her]] to [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], he did not apologize,<ref name="Megan Saga">[http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan/Megan_Saga Megan Saga]</ref> but rather explained to her (in a terribly [[naïve]] way) how a handjob works, under the misguided assumption that she merely was upset because she didn't recognize the sex act being performed, or in the hope that she would rationalize what he did on this basis. He then had the nerve to say to her, "I am hurting SOOOOO MUCH MORE than you can be."<ref name="Megan Saga"/> Why? Not because of the picture, but because the trolls were being mean to him. Yes, [[Chris and his ego|''him'']]. Based on [[List of Chris's ED edits|his ED edits]], he was more concerned with people thinking he was fingering his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|imaginary twin sister]] than he was with defending Megan's honor.

After each of his online relationships ends, Chris starts looking for a new [[sweetheart]] right away, ''even if she died''. No matter the setback, his ego keeps getting bigger.

In mid-July 2009, he addressed a person named [[The July 10th Messages|"SonichuIzCool"]] on YouTube. SonichuIzCool was (''is'') probably the only genuine fan of ''Sonichu'' discovered to date, someone who tried to defend Chris and his comic. She was also genuinely mentally retarded. In his YouTube message, Chris called her "naïve and [[slow in the mind]]." He told her she had to "come out where [he] can meet [her]." Another side of this incident is that his YouTube account had been recently hacked, and he had managed to recover it this time, thus avoiding all of the nasty evil damage the trolls ''might'' have caused. After he posted this video, though, he got his account suspended due to ''his own actions''.

In early November 2009, in his attempt to blackmail Clyde Cash, Chris went so far as to mock the terrorist attacks of the [[Twin Falling Towers|World Trade Center]] on 9/11. When feeling angry at Clyde Cash, he not only thought it would be a good idea to blackmail him, but used the ''destruction of two skyscrapers full of people after being hit by airliners full of jet fuel and human beings'' as a metaphor for how weak he thought Clyde was. When people got angry, he tried to fix things by turning the WTC towers into cake candles. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Chris was never coaxed or encouraged by an outside source to use the WTC images. He came up with this reprehensible idea all on his own.

[[Image:MikesWedding.jpg|thumb|right|Happily forever after.]]

In January 2010, a fan named Mike Jackson asked Chris for advice, whether he should [[Mailbag 31#If your kids are 16 or 17, you should watch porn with them|watch porn with his family]] and [[Mailbag 35#In which Chris advises a father to buy his son whores|buy a prostitute for his son]], Mike Junior, or not. Chris, being such an [[Dating Education|expert]], encouraged him to do so. In the end Mike Jr. ran away with the prostitute, and Mike asked Chris to make a [[YouTube]] video asking his son to come back home. Unfortunately, Chris is under a lot of [[stress]], and could not make the video. Mike Jr. is now married to the prostitute in Las Vegas, and his father died from a sleeping pill overdose. Chris didn't even give a damn about the obituary linked by Mike's wife, and responded to his son's grief and anger with three words: [[Chris and remorse|"I am sorry."]]

===Chris cares only for himself===
Chris spends [[monthly tugboat|your tax money]] on luxuries and steals from his parents to buy [[PSN|video games]] he'll never play. He has the basic skills necessary to hold down a job, so long as it didn't require him to do much interacting with other people, and programs exist specifically to find appropriate jobs for the mentally challenged, but Chris hasn't even tried since being fired from [[Wendy's]].

Further reinforcing his selfishness and laziness, Chris and his family strongly agree it's better for him to hole up in his room and get paid for doing absolutely nothing than to seek out the challenge of finding gainful employment in the real world. This is based on the (quite possibly untrue) assertion that Chris can earn more on disability than from a job. By taking advantage of the government through vastly exaggerated claims of an easily manageable illness which they refuse to help Chris treat, Chris's parents are assured a steady income in the form of his room-and-board payments, and don't have to worry about Chris getting in trouble with the law [[Chris and the Law|again]] when he has another breakdown in public.

===Chris is not a good net citizen===
{{quote|I will have NO DISCUSSIONS GOING ON BEHIND MY BACK ON MY OWN WEBSITE WHATSOEVER!|Chris, on reader participation via [[Twitter]].}}
Chris is more concerned with spreading his own version of [[Honest Content|honest truth]] than being a good net citizen. He has adopted the mentality that most spammers have adopted: who cares about things like terms of service and account suspensions and masses of pissed-off people as long as his message gets through? He won't participate in the communities of the sites he posts on. This is not mere ''passivity'' in those communities, which might still be tolerable; he ''deliberately opposes'' such participation. Most people, while not bothering to contribute to communities, would not at least make deliberate efforts to hinder the community. On [[deviantART]], [[YouTube]] and [[Flipnote Hatena]], he disables all comments, probably because he knew he'd not get any praise anyway — yet this ignores the fact that open commenting is part of the nature of these sites and disabling comments should be done only if it's being clearly used for flagrant abuses of the system, like spam and votebotting. He regards YouTube purely as a video publishing venue and not as a tool for engaging in discussion with his "fans". He created his [[Wikipedia]] user page purely to spread his own message, and did not come to Wikipedia to participate in building an encyclopedia. If the site owners block him, he just comes up with another account or a sockpuppet. The thought of apologizing, getting old accounts reinstated, or the possibility that people who block him might be trying to send him a message never cross his mind.

Chris's behavior on [[CWCipedia]] provides many more examples of his selfish attitude, such as the banner ad crisis in late 2009. He doesn't understand what it ''really'' means that the website is neither hosted nor paid for by him personally, and what sort of things the administration typically does on a website like his. He can't or won't understand simple principles like "webhost's house, webhost's rules," or "beggars can't be choosers," but instead believes that since the site has his name on it, it should be run according to his every demand.

===Chris will reject your advice===
[[Image:0231-MrsSanfordsWiseWords.jpg|thumb|right|What are you going to tell Chris that his [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford|favorite teacher]] didn't tell him 15 years ago?]]
Someone [[White knight emails|carefully explained to Chris why he is a sexist]]. In response, Chris got angry. He is only interested in a guide on how to attract women without first making any changes to himself. Most ridiculous: he denies being [[Obesity|overweight]].

Read [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|Vivian's AIM chat]]. Vivian actually used to be a counter-troll, and warned Chris several times that [[PandaHalo]] was a troll. Chris fell for PandaHalo anyway. She then tried to talk some damn sense on him over AIM. But Chris proved to be so goddamn stubborn, she actually tossed the towel and became a troll out of spite. In Vivitheg's words: "i've tried for 3 hours now; it's like fighting a wall, i can't beat the wall no matter how hard i try." Not only has she long since joined the troll ranks, but Chris even began [[Sign Destruction Video|berating and sending threats]] to his biggest white knight ever.

===Chris will reject your disclosure of the truth===
* [[Hanna]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Lori Lopez]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Blanca]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[PandaHalo]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite [[Vivitheg]]'s warnings.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails]]</ref>
* [[Robert Simmons V]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[JK Productions]] was a troll pretending to be an entire videogame development company, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah May]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah Jackson]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Julie]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Ivy]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite warnings from the counter-troll that must not be named.
* [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Emily]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Kacey]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it. She also married [[CChanSonichuCWC|the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler]].
* [[Father Call|Matthew, Kacey's father]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Jackie]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it. [[February_2012|Twice.]]

See a pattern here? Do you really think he will believe any evidence you send him proving that every fan he has, and pretty much every person he has been in contact with over the past year, is a troll?

===Chris's normal life is often weirder than the trolling===
Chris won't take your advice, so he will fall for trolling. Trolls do weird things and Chris believes almost everything. But even if Chris had no white knights or trolls, his life would still be weird.

Chris's own accomplishments, without any external suggestion or assistance, are sometimes even more jaw-dropping than what the trolls think up. His [[Chris and the Law#Law troubles|previous brushes]] with [[Jerkops|authority figures]] and his [[Attraction Sign|bizarre]] [[Fridays After Five|behavior]] during his outside leisure time are good examples.

===Chris asks for it, and always recovers===
Hellbent on spreading his version of the truth because he's TRUE and HONEST, Chris cannot realize that his edit warring on Encyclopedia Dramatica was practically a squeal begging for more trolling.

[[wiktionary:TMI|TMI]] is a tactic Chris uses that usually leads to him abusing himself. Since Chris insists on revealing the most minute details of his life to everyone he meets, the trolls always get more information to fuel further acts of trolling. White knights cannot stop our hero from being Honest.

Chris doesn't get embarrassed either. Oh, his nudes and lewd acts are all over the internet? No big deal! [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|All adults do that kind of thing]], so what's the problem?

Chris managed to fully recover from the depressing [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] mentioned above (and quite quickly, too) and proceeded to fail even harder for months. Likewise, despite professing great emotional distress, he bounced back from [[CWC is Sad|the loss of Kacey]] in [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|a matter of hours]]. He even bounced back after being [[Mumble 9|verbally abused by a room of trolls]], one of whom told him to go kill himself. So what's the problem?

[[Image:Chriscash.jpg|thumb|right|180px|True, true.]]

===Chris made himself an outcast===
High school and college are the places and moments where people are given their first and often only chance to become a functioning part of society. They gave Chris an even greater chance because he's [[autistic]]. They lent him a friendly, caring hand and opened themselves to his friendship, males and females alike. And what did Chris do? He ''refused, by choice,'' to associate with anyone who wasn't female, young, rich, white, and within the Charlottesville area.

When [[Mary Lee Walsh|the dean]] gave him a chance to reform his behavior, he kept going with his bullshit, and was rightly kicked out of [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] for a full year. What did he learn from that? He learned that Mary Lee Walsh was an evil hag with a personal vendetta against him. He was given ''several'' chances to learn that his [[Attraction sign|loitering and soliciting]] were not appropriate behavior in a public place, and what did he learn? He learned that mall cops are [[Jerkops]], that [[Virginia is for Virgins]], and that his [[Love Quest]] was a matter of him against the world, with the world in the role of the villain. After he was kicked out of The GAMe PLACe (where he was again given more leeway than most people ever would have gotten, out of a sense of misguided pity), he was barred from the last place in Ruckersville that was still open to him, and left with only one place: his home.

Now, it's too late for Chris. He was given a friendly hand, but he angrily bit it, and that hand will never reach out to him again. He doesn't even belong in his own home anymore. He spends most of his time in exile in his fantasy land of [[CWCville]], the one and only place still open to him, and that place ''doesn't even exist''.

===[[Stress]]===
In order to get close to Chris, white knights have to spend at least as much time and effort as trolls to get up-to-date and to thwart the troll output. They'd probably have to lie and pretend to be a girl or video game designer to even capture his attention. This combined with Chris's usual responses is enough to make any sane non-professional psychologist [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|crash into slumber]].

===Chris will not even read your message===
The spam filter is a powerful innovation of good ol' America Online. Any e-mails sent to his private address will be deleted, probably unread, and any e-mails sent to the [[Mailbag]], if they even get published, will be [[Mailbag 29|given one-word replies and ignored]].

===The trolling will not cease===
Even if white knights get to Chris somehow, there is no endgame in which Chris will be free from trolls before his death.

In school, Chris was trolled by his classmates. He was even trolled by one of his [[Joshua Martinez|real life friends]]. In college, he was trolled by friends who grew sick of his bullshit (e.g. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]), and by [[Anna McLerran|girls]] [[Hannah|annoyed]] by his "attraction methods" and rampant, unabashed sexism. If Chris quit the Internet tomorrow, he would still be trolled by a society that refuses to tolerate ignorant man-children flouting its rules.

If everyone trying to create his next fake sweetheart suddenly got bored and quit, Chris would unwittingly seek out new trolls to take their place, and we know newfags are more than willing.

If Chris isn't assigned a custodian after his parents die, his story will probably end when he falls victim to some con artist who swindles him out of his [[monthly tugboat]] and perhaps his home. If Chris does get assigned a custodian, he will continue his antics until the custodian kicks him out or bans him from the Internet. If the custodian bans Chris from the Internet, that's Chris trolling himself.

If Chris gets institutionalized, he will attract real life trolls at the mental hospital. If Chris does not go into an institution and instead ends up in prison due to [[28 October 2011|circumstances that cannot be foreseen]], he will be trolled there as well.

If the entire world reforms and decides to leave Chris alone, his own sense of victimization will override any benefit. Consider that Chris felt persecuted simply by observing [[Jerks|males who had more success than himself]]. He regards legitimate assertions of authority as rank brutality. [[Adam Stackhouse]] managed to upset Chris to a degree that CWC observers rate among the most impressive to date, and he did it without even knowing that Chris existed at the time. Bleak as it is, unless Chris embarks on a program of radical self-improvement and/or learns some humility, and manages against the odds to shake off both his legions of abusers and seamy reputation, he will forever feel like a [[Kick the Autistic|thoroughly-kicked autistic]].

===The trolling helps Chris and, indeed, others===
If Chris were just some random nobody on the Internet, he'd be doing nothing but playing video games and occasionally drawing unsellable comics until his parents died. Then he'd be institutionalized. He'd remain without social skills, a virgin all his life, with no job, success or future.

Instead, Chris's antics have become a cultural phenomenon that — without exaggeration — is something extraordinary, unique, and which likely won't be replicated in any shape or form for years to come. Chris has secured his place among such luminaries as the Time Cube Guy and John Titor, and unlike the Time Cube Guy, you can actually comprehend what Chris is saying most of the time. Chris interacting with the world through his websites and YouTube has drawn in a crowd of people who are participating in an unprecedented, continual piece of performance art of a kind that would have been unheard of only a few years ago. He brings entertainment to thousands of people all over the world, an accomplishment that most could never dream of achieving — the kind of thing that would give Dane Cook a stiffy just to consider. His Internet fame is actually a sort of success in its own right, and may bring him further success. There are thousands of people out there that are so fascinated by him that they study his life on a daily basis.

One could argue that if Chris eventually "retired" from this comedy act by actually coming to terms with his problems, seeking professional help, and completely reforming (and selling media rights to his life's story to the highest bidder, like all sensible people would do), he could live the rest of his life secure and probably moderately wealthy. The troll audience would give him a standing ovation for entertaining them for as long as he did, and move on to the next piece of tragicomedy brought to us by the emerging Web technologies. We have seen far more messed-up celebrity stories already; Chris's tale is at least quite different from the norm and engaging.

What's more, the trolls provide him with an actual social outlet to learn and grow in life. Instead of being an unemployable, fat, virgin bedroom-dweller that nobody has ever heard of, he's an Internet-famous unemployable, fat, virgin bedroom dweller and this by itself increases his chances of getting friends and a girl. He may even end up employed, too, probably appearing in an advertisement or sponging off royalties from any biographical medium, whether it be a book, movie, or TV series. He could become the next William Hung if he put half an ounce of effort into it.

Also, Chris's constant failure at life has inspired [[Autism#Chris and other autistics|hundreds]] to self-improvement. Really, he's accomplishing a pretty good thing here.

===Chris treats "fans" and white knights like crap===
If you try to white knight him, his response is merely to block you on YouTube, AIM or any other messenger service and never respond. He accuses practically all white knights of being trolls. Quite ironic, isn't it? He screams "I'M STRAIGHT!" when you tell him up front that you're a guy. When you tell him his current "girlfriend" is actually a troll, he'll accuse you of wanting to "break up the relationship for the lulz." He'll be rude, won't listen and won't read between the lines. He will always bite the hand that feeds him, so you should just let him wallow in his own self loathing.

{{quote|Whatever.|Send Chris a 400-word, well-reasoned email — get a [[Mailbag 29#Whatever|1-word reply]] back.}}
{{quote|You can go f*** yourself.|[[Mailbag 43#Go Fuck Yourself, too!|A not-so reasonable reply]] to reasonable criticism.}}

Chris doesn't treat his (perceived) fans much better. Even aside from the SonichuIzCool incident mentioned above, Chris has severe problems answering questions from his fans (or trolls who pretend to be positive fans), and will often react in a hostile manner to everything he sees as negative or offensive. His [[Mailbag]] is the most obvious example. He hates being corrected, and tenaciously clings to his misinformed beliefs; his insistence that Asperger's Syndrome and autism are unrelated is a good example of this. When or if he's having a good day and manages to answer questions from fans at all, he often gives them very brief, one or two word answers that do not elaborate on anything, or outright ignore parts of the question. Not only is he terse, he's also slow to act; for example, it [[Brutal Legend Plus|took him three days to realize]] that a [[Brutal Legend|video he uploaded]] was seriously broken. He also promised that [[Sonichu Fan Promo|a spectacular fan creation]] would be officially featured in the ''Sonichu'' comic — and it ultimately was, ''over a year later''.

Most webcomics have a specific schedule that they have decided to follow. Many webcomics fail to live up to them – some less, some more; some for good reasons, some have no excuse whatsoever. Chris didn't have a set schedule for the comic for the longest time, but then agreed to update the comic on a daily basis, a schedule which even the most well-funded webcomic artists would consider particularly demanding. In February and March 2010, there have been few updates to the comic. When the inevitable complaints about schedule slip started to come, Chris snapped at his fans by saying that inspiration takes its time, forgetting that it was ''he'' who decided daily updates were the way to go. As the "Great Director Chandler", he could have the power to decide what schedule to follow, but instead, he chose to attack his fans.

===Chris' life would still be a disaster even if the trolls never bothered him===
As of 2012, Chris is a total human trainwreck, slowly losing the last of his sanity while he waits to get thrown in the slammer. While the systematic trolling of him throughout the last few years have something to do with his degrading mental state (especially his extreme paranoia and distrust for everyone except his his mom and pastor), the fact still remains that his life's horrible state is mainly caused by factors outside of the internet. He would still be a lonely outcast as his poor upbringing gave him such warped views of the world and lead him to engage in such bizarre behavior that he drove away every person he tried to connect with. He would still be living in unsanitary living conditions due to Barb's hoarding and the fact that his house has not been cleaned in the better part of a decade. He would still be banned from all of his favorite hangouts due to his loitering and hostile behavior to other patrons. Also, at the core of it all is how Chris decided that he would be better off living off government handouts while drawing unpublishable comic books in his room instead of getting a job and heading down a career path, which would have been his one-way ticket to escaping the cesspool that is [[14 Branchland Court]] and living a fulfilling life, not unlike that of [[Cole Smithey|his half brother]]. Instead, he decided to remain dependent on his elderly, emotionally disturbed parents; look at how well that worked out for him.

==Examples==
:''Read: [[White knight emails]]''

===White Knights on YouTube===

Among the most notable of Chris's white knights was a [[YouTube]] counter-troll who claimed to be a 21 year-old Russian model named Svenka. Via her YouTube account, [http://www.youtube.com/user/hottiee96 hottiee96], she released an inordinate number of screencaps from troll conversations on [[Sonichu IRC]], including private conversations between Chris and [[PandaHalo]]. Also, she released an image of the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] who would later steal Chris's first date, [[Emily]]. Were Chris less thick-skulled and even slightly willing to accept irrefutable evidence, Svenka may have made somewhat of a negative impact on the organized trolling effort against Chris, but ultimately she was ineffectual. Svenka also had a unhealthy obsession with the original curator of the [[CWCville Library]], Arjen Van Dierten.

On 6 [[May 2009]], YouTube user xThexPinchx/NorthxStar7/[http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePinchisDaBomb ThePinchisDaBomb] tried to blackmail major trolls, claiming to have information on them. He was easily called on his bluff by someone who had not trolled Chris at all.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/softerthanhardware YouTube]</ref> The Pinch has also threatened [[BlueSpike]] saying he has information from his friends but the thing is '''BLUESPIKE HAS NO FRIENDS'''.

====TV Tropes====
[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu The TV Tropes article on ''Sonichu''] used to have a white knight message as the first text of the article, with a link back to this very page. The message is reproduced below:

{{quote|Hey Chris! If you're reading this: you seriously need to get help from licensed professionals, before the stuff you do [[28 October 2011|gets you thrown in prison]] or forcibly committed. And we're sorry, but you have no real fans - the people you think are your fans are really either trolls or laughing at you behind your back. Every. Last. One. Please listen to us - for once.|- Concerned tropers}}

Unfortunately, the editor in question and fails to realize that [[Chris and his ego|their message, while well intentioned, will do absolutely nothing]] and Chris will simply ignore it even if he does [[Mailbag 52|fully read and input it for better development. Thank you for your time.]] The message was later removed due to a shift in policy regarding the article.

==Conclusion==
As good as your intentions may be, there is no conceivable way any mortal human alive can reach Chris and change him for the better. Your efforts will unfortunately fail, and he will just brush you aside, seeing no difference between you and the trolls. Nothing short of divine intervention, revelation, or a horrifyingly close brush with death will change him. You would be best to leave him be and find something else to do with your time. All we can do is hope that one of the three aforementioned scenarios happen at some point, [[Chris and Religion|though the first two seem highly unlikely]].

==See Also==
*[[User:Champthom/Alogging|Alogging]]
*[[White knight emails]]

==Sources==
<references />

==External links==
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/White_knight White Knighting] article at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].

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User talk:Champthom

2012-06-26T04:15:53Z

4Macie: /* My thoughts */

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== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

===My thoughts===
I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.

I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.

But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that [[Wikipedia:Repressed_memory|repressed memories]] in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.

Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.

In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.

So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.

Those are my thoughts at least. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.

Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?

As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
::: Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Champthom

2012-06-22T16:10:57Z

4Macie: /* Bruce Johnson */

User talk:TransBionic

2012-06-19T08:55:39Z

4Macie: Created page with "....you're trying to hard to be Chris... --~~~~"

....you're trying to hard to be Chris... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 01:55, 19 June 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Alex's Lemonade Stand

2012-06-13T03:48:55Z

4Macie: /* So he did it.... */ new section

{{Not A Forum}}
* Are we jumping to conclusions about Chris's motives here? I mean, it sounds like it was heart failure that finished Bob off, but he did say (at least twice IIRC) in the crank calls that he had been diagnosed with and treated for cancer. I could perhaps have bought that Bob was lying to trolls in an attempt to get them to back off out of sympathy, but I can't see him lying to Chris about it also. --[[User:HarryHowler|HarryHowler]] 10:25, 19 February 2012 (PST)

:It was a combination of several factors, and cancer (when it finally kills) can do so by causing heart failure (also by organ failure, blood poisoning, etc.). [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:26, 19 February 2012 (PST)

:Bob had heart trouble for a while, and heart failure was the eventual cause of death. We're not really jumping to conclusions as much as pointing out that Chris is wrong, again. He's trying to relate to the cause of ALSF through his father's death, and it may be that Chris really believes his father's death was primarily caused by cancer. In addition, ALS is about helping raise money for childhood cancer. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:33, 19 February 2012 (PST)
:: I looked through all of the IRCs and couldn't find a single one that mentions Bob having cancer or being treated for cancer. There was one prank call I could remember (the one where it's a guy trying to be all nice to Bob and saying he's going to write a paper on him) where BARB is the one to say that Bob is in the hospital for treatment (when asked "treatment for what? cancer?" she doesn't respond and just says he's not there). Other than that: Panda does mention HER father has cancer in the IRC of 02 Jan 2009 and Chris mentions that his father has had 3 or 4 heart attacks and 3 triple bypasses in his life time during IRC of 03 Jan 2009. If anyone can find the IRCs where Chris has stated his father has cancer/had cancer please link. Other than that, I really think the whole "in honor of my father dying of cancer" bit is most likely Chris trying to get attention or he simply doesn't understand why his father died and just said it was cancer. Which, all in all, still doesn't mean anything because, as Anonymax stated, Alex's Lemonade Stand is to raise money for childhood cancer support/research/etc. NONE of that money goes to adults with cancer. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:50, 19 February 2012 (PST)
:::[https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=y-GGSOyCm2k This is the prank call you mentioned,] though it's now set to private. [[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/User:Nullity/PCA|Transcript here.]] According to this, Bob said he had cancer. Whether or not it was true is up for debate, but I don't think there's any good reason to doubt him. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 16:41, 19 February 2012 (PST)
:::: I know this is not a forum, but speculation: CWC is probably doing this because he may have received community service for intentionally hitting Snyder (that is what happened, by the way). It actually seems likely. Explanation: that was Chris' first felony and he has a documented medical condition. Add to this the fact that his defender would likely argue that Chris was under a great deal of stress from the recent death of his father and he lashed out irrationally. The court is more likely to show leniency when the only alternative is to put him in a home. Typically, the court assigns a person doing community service to choose a charity of their choice and volunteer. I can't see Chris out busting his butt for Habitat for Humanity or anything else, so the likelihood of him choosing something that felt relevant to him and his family and finding a way to raise money is high. On the other hand, this may not be sufficient: making a simple donation site is not a calculable expenditure of work. It has no "clock in" and "clock out" time signed by a supervisor, which is what the court looks at to verify that hours of community service are completed. He creates the donation area on someone else's site and he leaves it. We may see many such CWC Community Service projects in the next few months. --[[User:Niggabyte|Niggabyte]] 14:36, 24 February 2012 (PST)
::::* He hasn't been officially found guilty of anything so he can't be punished for anything yet...so no, I do not believe this is any kind of community service. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:57, 24 February 2012 (PST)
::::: And if Chris had hit Snyder, he would have been charged with hitting Snyder. Chris was charged with property damage. Ergo, he didn't actually hit Snyder, or the investigating officer somehow missed the fact. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 01:26, 2 March 2012 (PST)
== How do we know Chris actually made this? ==

Just wondering, because I really haven't seen any evidence that would lead me to believe Chris actually made it. (I'm not doubting it though.)
*It's linked through his confirmed facebook page--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:40, 23 February 2012 (PST)

== Removed comments ==
Does anyone have screencaps? Because some of the comments are being removed. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:KamenRider|KamenRider]] ([[User talk:KamenRider|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KamenRider|contribs]]) 
: Sure they're not just falling off the page but are still visible [http://www.alexslemonade.org/mypage/80275/donations here?] --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:55, 24 February 2012 (PST)
::Definitely. On that page, the comments have been replaced with "-" [[User:KamenRider|KamenRider]] 11:02, 24 February 2012 (PST)
:::PNG is the preferred format for images on the CWCki, as other formats lose quality, clarity or create files that are too large in size. If you could re-cap the current donations list and save it as a PNG and upload it, we can keep a track of changes. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:15, 24 February 2012 (PST)
::::Reuploaded as .PNG [[User:KamenRider|KamenRider]] 11:31, 24 February 2012 (PST)
::::: Update: Donors page is now gone.[[User:KamenRider|KamenRider]] 11:35, 24 February 2012 (PST)

== Page No Longer Available? ==

I tried to see the page today, and it says that I do not have access. For the sake of accuracy, what was the date that access to the page was limited? 14:59, 29 February 2012 (PST)~Avenger
:So he's seriously stopped accepting donations for children's cancer in order to avoid the mean messages that came with some of them? This is a low I didn't think even he could reach. Or maybe he realised that there's no way for him to obtain the money. --[[User:IThrewTheFrisbee|IThrewTheFrisbee]] 18:45, 1 March 2012 (PST)
: If my memory don't fail me and as far as i remember, he denied the access the 25 February just after the release of those Tomgirls video. Since we know that Chris check the Cwcki on a regular basis (ie : he made 3 accounts on the Cwcki) i think he did it to avoid trolls. Too bad that this idea seemed somehow generous and genuine, at least for me but fuck it, i'm being naive again. I have another question, did Chris going to obtain the 150 dollars he raised on the website or the people who made the donations can choose to dont send him anything.
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 16:45, 3 March 2012 (PST)
:: I may be slow in the mind, but I didn't understand your question.... If your question is about what happens to the money now that the page is deleted (though it does say "access denied" which usually means that the page is still there just for certain people), what will happen is this: the money was already donated through the site. The site will keep the money. The only money the site will be losing is the money Chris may have gotten by selling actual lemonade.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:16, 3 March 2012 (PST)

== So he did it.... ==

Ok, so we have evidence that Chris did host the lemonade stand...but he clearly states he raised and donated $50, while the site also states that the total amount raised was $154. So.. did Chris keep 2/3 of the money? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:48, 12 June 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Chris and health

2012-05-12T02:36:36Z

4Macie: /* When was the last time Chris went to a doctor? */

Hey we should add a "gallery of fatness" to the bottom of the page with pictures of his horrible fatness.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 19:01, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
*That's not such a bad idea, I suppose. What would be best is if you could make them show how much he has ballooned over the years. [[User:Dormiebasne|Dormiebasne]] 21:20, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
**That is an even better idea--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 23:09, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
*** Damn, I wish he was one of those people who took a photo of himself once a day. Then we could make an animation. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Moved the gallery of hair. --[[User:Garfield|Garfield]] 03:14, 25 July 2009 (CEST)
*Cool!--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 16:50, 29 July 2009 (CEST)

In Kacey's recollection of her date with Chris, she mentioned how he would sweat profusely just by walking. Where in the article should I add that? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 21:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== Need to do ==
*Probably move the hair to Sonichu Girls or just make a new page for it, I think it warrants its own page because it also demonstrates MEXICAN SONICHU and poor Spanish
*Also, incorporate chris's coke habits (the drink) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n2bjtmemyyj [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:33, 29 September 2009 (CEST)

== Chris and Strength? ==

Chris seems to suffer form delusions that he's really strong and a good fighter. I'd go into more depth except that I'm not really strong nor a good fighter. All I know is that he's worse at both than me. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 06:26, 13 October 2009 (CEST)

== Weird section ==

The article currently says: "''Chris has probably never had any regular exercise since leaving high school, and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. It has also left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos.''" Now, I'm not a medical professional or anything, but I'm pretty sure exercise level doesn't have much to do with skin color. The second sentence should probably be moved or at least clarified.
*No, I think that's more or less sun. Trust me, if you can get him to push carts during the summer at some Wal-Mart or whatever, his skin'll look a million times better. Of course, we're talking about Chris, who thinks item stockers in retail are "heavyweights".--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 20:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I have edited it as such:''"Since he barely leave his house and focus his time on playing videogames, his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos."'' I hope it will please Mr. Anonymous... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

==So when WAS the last time Chris took a shower?==
Seriously. What was the exact date of Chris's last shower? Considering how much he's divulged about his life it shouldn't be hard to aquire this information. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 13:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:*It's not as simple as you think. First, Chris is not the type of camera-whore who would record this. Then, He's in [[Homos|straight]] denial about this as you can read it in the article. Personally, my out-of-nowhere guess would be once a week or when the itching would became impossible to endure. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:** If a guy is said to be smelling like rotten watermelon or rotting fish in the sun, he's probably not even showering once a MONTH. Has anybody actually ASKED him? [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
:***Do you think he would listen? Chris had learned over the years that making over-the-top claims and giving assurances of all sorts would allow him to avoid doing any action. So, if we ask him, be sure that he will repeat that he showers daily even if flies drop dead around him due to the stench. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
:****I've been brushing up on my psychology and according to Professor Jean M. Twenge of San Diego University in her book "The Narcissism Epidemic" It illustrates that Narcissists are extremely fragile to criticism and with his autism and child like personality it would be no surprise if chris chan has spent several months/days without showering (just look at that brownish crust on his neck) And I imagine that even if he does he probably doesn't shower thoroughly enough to get rid of his...err aroma.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==Is he in danger of developing diabetes?==

Its just speculation on my part but with a 60 ounces of coke a day habit and whatever other high sugar foods he is eating combined with his obesity as well as the possible hypertension make me wonder if he is at risk. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
* It's probably very possible. I mean, the sugar content in McDonald's is high, and in even a 330ml can of Coke (11fl oz. approx.) there is about 60% of an adult's daily sugar allowance.. Maybe if we try and get information from him that we can cross-reference to a list of diabetes symptoms, such as exceptional thirst, dry mouth and frequent urination. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 17:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
** Could I maybe send him a letter leading him on to list any of these symptoms in operation Mailbag?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
*** Chris is at high risk for pretty much everything that obesity can cause.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
**** Chris is at a higher risk for everything he ignores. Right now, I still think he's on a higher risk of suffering a bad case of staph infection than anything else. He got no notion of hygiene, his immune system is crushed by his lifestyle and he's living in a dump. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*****Forget staph; he's at risk for freaking leprosy. [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 08:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*It wouldn't be surprising if he had diabetes already. Have you seen his complexion? Early age spots are a possible sign of diabetes and that combined with the fact that he gets tired easily makes me believe that he might already have diabetes. PS I'm a newfag with wikis so I hope this works.
** Protip. Sign your comments by putting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comment, so we all know you are AFK4Life. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 09:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*** The reason I suggested a letter was so that we could get a confirmation about the liklyhood of him having diabetes. Although it is probably true. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]] 10:25, 26 Febuary 2010 (UTC)
****This will fail in two distinctive ways; not only he barely take notice of the unpleasant letters in the mailbags but he's also certain that he's the living example of what a healthy man looks like. This being said, I will take great pleasure in knowing he would have to stab himself with a syringe again and again due to a disease caused by his fat ass. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
***** However, considering that Chris is more interested in spending his tugboat money on video games and sex toys, it's more likely that he will fall into a diabetic coma because he didn't want to spend the money on urgent medical supplies. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
****** I will have to disagree with you on this. I am ready to bet that the moment Chris will need insulin or any other medication, not only the said medication will be brought to him freely by the glorious state of Virginia but he will also be followed by a social worker. We have to include the fact that Chris took medication before. In the [[Autism papers]], it is mentioned that he took paxil for four years. So, yes, he can follow a regiment of drugs. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

That's another thing that bothers me--why was he on Paxil? I hear that it treats two things--depression and excessive urination. Either way I want to know what prompted it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
* Interestingly enough, paxil has been known in some paitents to cause outbursts of anger: http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=19&m=203440
:It is mainly prescribed to treat depression, but is also occasionally prescribed to individuals who complain of extreme stress. It is possible that the lumberjack and snorlax got Chris a prescription thinking it would mellow him out, or it may be that Chris has been very depressed and the paxil was specifically prescribed to him for his depression. Considering his goals in life, and his chances of achieving them, it is quite likely (even with Chris's limited mental foresight) that he has realized that his goals are almost certainly unachievable, and thus he is depressed. [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:25, 14 June 2010 (EST)
::It is interesting to see when Chris started taking paxil. If we refer ourselves to the Autism paper (Circa 2004), it tells us that the ManChild was on that medication for the last 4 years. This bring us to the end of his High-School years and his enrolment at the PVCC. There's a possibility that it was suggested to Chris's parents to put him on meds to help him with the transition from one setting to another. After all, autistics love patterns and the loss of those patterns can cause stress and bouts of 'Tard-Rage. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

== Inability to Recognize Faces ==

I think it should be mentioned that the inability to recognize faces is a very common trait of Autism. The fact that Chris cannot recognize faces confirmed (to me) that he definitely has a form of autism before those psychiatric evaluations were released.

Also, a lack of smell-sensory is another symptom of autism. This is definitely far from the only reason that Chris never showers, and not all Autistic people lack a sense of smell, but still I thought I should mention it.(Wiki newfag here; I hope this works.) --[[User:Windyshoot|Windyshoot]] 09:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

At first,I read inability to recognize feces. LOL! --[[User:Kawaiidesubakachan|Kawaiidesubakachan]] 02:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Im autistic and i remember faces more than names.[[user:MrMaXimo|MrMaXimo]] 12:45, 28 2010 (PST)

A lack of facial recognition is fairly common, or facial confusion. I believe it tends to be more of an issue for quick introductions, though, not anyone who there's been an extended interaction with. The second part is, however, just my own experience with the 'sperg and should NOT be taken as a universal.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 19:42, 23 February 2011 (PST)

== Chris's obesity ==

In response to to how much weight chris gained during his apearence in the pimp my ride video, someone in the talk section asked for a comparison between chris's breast and those of a big chested woman. after combining the image below i noticed that chris has gained so much weight that his man-boobs have become massive. what i'm trying to ask is if the image could be included in the chris and obesity section. [[User:MoarLurk]]
[[file:Compare.jpg|300px|right]]

:I made that image with pretty much that purpose. Also if you notice, chris's boobs are bigger.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::I suspect that Chris has a hormonal imbalance. Even with his corpulent physique, his breasts are disproportionately large, and his nipples look like pepperonis. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what he has. This is typical of gynecomastia. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 06:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::The though of Chris's nipples...cannot unsee.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::::We have pictures of them, remember? We've seen the man screwing a blow-up doll. How can his nipples be close to that disturbance? --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 16:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Anything involving the naked body of that man is of the deepest bowels of hell or Rhyel.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

== Hormonal imbalance ==
i've beggining to suspect that chris suffers from hormonal imbalance, it would explain his high pitched voice and the overgrown mantits and acne at that age. Poor hygiene can explian the acne a bit. Obesity can explain the mantits, but to Chris's level, it has to be the hormones, I think he has an exess of strogen in his system.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

:*Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. ... but it could be testosterone. My understanding is that the human body can only tolerate so much testosterone; any excess is converted into estrogen (or oestrogen). Given that in addition to his [[Collosal|Collosal Chris Chan]] manboobs Chris appears to display uncontrollable bouts of anger ("Shouting loud enough to wake the dead" over a slightly overpriced cup of coffee), has great difficulty keeping his hands [[Kacey|off]] [[Megan|women]], constantly obsesses about sex and generally acts like a horny 16 year old when he's 28 seems to suggest that, perhaps, he has a large amount of testosterone in his system and the excess is being turned into estrogen. An outside observer with absolutely no idea who Chris is might even suggest steroid abuse (before anyone jumps in with 'but Chris is weak!', steroids don't make you STRONG, they're just basically horse urine which is huge amounts of testosterone. It bulks you up a great deal, but if you take steroids and don't work out, you get really fat and get huge mantits). It's times like these I wish the mailbags were still going, so we could ask Chris directly if he was taking steroids. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

::*I'm sure there may be a hormonal imbalance, but I think the cause may well be Klinefelter's. Chris-Chan fits a fair amount of the general symptoms, and I'm surprised it hasn't been further investigated. Small/malformed penis and testicles, slowly developing and altogether missing male secondary sex characteristics, the extremely high voice, the suggestions of gender confusion and sexual orientation difficulties, not to mention the prominent breasts. Those are developed much more than one would expect for someone at his fitness level, despite how low it is. Of course, since nobody's bothering to run fertility tests on him, confirmation on such a thing would be VERY difficult. But at this point, XXY makes more sense to me than anything.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 03:56, 20 February 2011 (PST)

:::No. He grows facial hair easily, and the associated hypogonadism means lower decreased testicular hormone/endocrine function, not smaller genitals. His obesity and autism explain pretty much all of his symptoms. Chris's voice isn't especially high, except when he freaks out. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:44, 20 February 2011 (PST)

::::No, it isn’t Klinefelter's. It’s already been addressed in detail in one of the speculation topics, so to spare a TLDR I’ll be brief. Not only is there no evidence pointing to it, but his phenotype is incompatible with the condition. His integumentary problems: his acne & bad complexion, androgenic baldness, fat distribution pattern(fat in the gut first is a testosterone induced thing), shows that his body has no shortage of testosterone. Since he has that much fat, some of it is bound to go and cause manboobs, that’s pretty much like any guy will get when they cross over to obesity.(The fat means more horomones & some of the exess T will be converted to estrogen, but obviously not enough to overpower the testosterone turned DHT's effect on his skin& hair) Also since the latest molecular research into autism shows that estrogen acts as a promoter for several genes that are linked to protecting against autism while testosterone methilates them, it’s unlikely Chris has ever been estrogen dominant, and it’s likely he was exposed to too much testosterone in utero. It’s not <del>Lupus</del> Klinefelter's.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:25, 21 February 2011 (PST)

==Wes Iseli==

This article mentioned an non-sourced comment from Wes Iseli about Chris's funk during his PVCC days. I know it's not an official statement, but does any one know where or who that came from? ---[[User:ConCat|ConCat]] 17:17, 28 August 2010 (PDT)

== WeighIn ==

Should we add the new information about his weight we learned from this new video? We should also probably add something about why he must weigh 216 despite having the body we all see. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:31, 26 October 2010 (PDT)

== Page Blanked? ==

Why did youdonttellmewhattodo blank the page? Is he trying to troll us, or is there an actual reason for this?--[[User:Rena-kun|others > ;0; ;0; ;0; ^-^ < Rena-kun (me)]] 20:05, 17 July 2011 (PDT)

== Klinefelter ==

Could it be that Chris also suffers from the conditition known as Klinefelter Syndrome?
He has many of the symptoms:
*Unnatural large breasts
*Narrow bones
*Weak muscles
*Small genitalia
*High-pitched voice
*Little body and facial hair
*(Mild?) mental retardation (or, at the very least, below-average intelligence)
*Small hands and feet
*Obesity
I think it's pretty likely Chris has this discease. Maybe on top of other things, but it would explain a lot of his physical characteristiscs and behaviour I'd say. [[User:Charles|Charles]] 02:39, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== Broken source ==
The link to the first source seems to be broken, Chris' email responses in the linked "mailbag" are definitely not from Chris.--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 18:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

== When was the last time Chris went to a doctor? ==

Seriously. He's obese,rarely showers, most likely doesn't brush his teeth, and lives in a house infested with bugs that left Bob covered in so many bites he had to be hospitalized. The aforementioned might happen to live off blood, and could pass on diseases to hosts. It's highly unlikely that he has been vaccinated recently as he would rather stay home and play video games (considering Chris rarely leaves his house, however, this might not be too big of a problem), possible vitamin D deficiency from going outside, and unless Chris used protection, he may have an STD. How can any doctor allow this?--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 19:22, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
:While 1) this isn't a forum... 2) Chris has not been giving out information about his life like he used to (or that we know of)... so as far as we KNOW, it was when he was "with" Kacey. He talked about going to the doctor quite a bit while emailing/phoning Kasey. The first time when he had to take some stress meds and his doctor took him off, and then he found out he was 206lbs, the other when he talked about his penis size and how to enhance it.... and another time when he said he had an appointment. I think he probably does get check-ups once in a while..but all he'd have to do is brush his teeth and shower before going and that'd be good enough to disguise a lot of what's going on. He's the only one that lives on his floor, and he rarely leaves his room, any bugs that may have lived with Bob or Barb probably don't hitch a ride with him to produce the number bites Bob had.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:36, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Facebook

2012-05-08T07:08:11Z

4Macie: /* Iphone */ new section

==To Do==
*archive the messages on a separate page ([[Facebook messages]] works)
*maybe make a separate page to mirror Chris's Facebook account (to clarify, his Facebook page as it appeared before it was hacked - --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 2 June 2009 (CEST))
*include his notes (maybe a separate page for that too, actually)

As for this page, maybe just outline the extent Chris used Facebook, highlight some of the stuff with it, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:09, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

To put it bluntly; this page needs more words. Some of the messages are very funny when juxtaposed. He would rather go out with a jailbait 17 year old "party girl" (read:slut) than a empathetic single mom. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 23:44, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
* A general commentary for the current themes that pop up in Chris's [[Facebook messages]] and in his Facebook page and notes are more warranted than commentary for each and every individual e-mail.

I know that the Miyamoto Saga e-mails have a commentary of it but most of it is from Clyde (RIP) who provides a commentary on what he was saying as he lost the original sent e-mails from when he was Miyamoto.

But really, I think just a general commentary is needed and that Chris's messages are far more amusing and should speak for themselves. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 June 2009 (CEST)

Whatever you say, hoss. Mind was a little skewed due to rage.

What to do STILL - Go through his statuses. How lonesome is this fuck going to be? evenmore.zip [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:59, 19 September 2010 (PDT)

==Collapsible gallery==

Oh, and can we make the gallery collapsible? I know standard wiki formatting has the gallery at the bottom, but, like you said, they speak for themselves, so a general commentary would be more aesthetically pleasing below it. Gives the reader space to grasp the fucktardedness before adding our POV. Just a suggestion.--[[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:51, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

*A collapsible gallery would be great, but can you make one? God help us that none of us can't edit unless it's basic shit like making templates (read: copy and pasting stuff from Wikipedia templates, lol), editing pages, etc. Seriously, we could use collapsible galleries in a lot of pages but no one has gotten around to it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:50, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

* Oh, damn, I assumed you were a senior wikifag. I'll see what I can do, it can't be too difficult, right? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 03:17, 4 June 2009 (CEST)

* I am a wikifag. See [[Template:Collapsible]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 03:31, 5 June 2009 (CEST)

==Has Chris regained use of this profile, or is it still under troll control?==
I was under the impression he got it back, but it seems not long ago he posted a status that was pretty clearly a troll. I'm mostly an idiot so there's a good chance this was obvious somewhere long ago, but the article doesn't really address what happened to the profile after trolls hijacked it. Is that something that could be included? --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:28, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

== He's still using Facebook ==

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christian-Weston-Chandler/167832525915

Might wanna update that link.

*LOOKS LEGI- Oh wait. NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:53, 27 January 2011 (PST)
Gotta go with Freecell on this one...There is no way in hell this is Chris's facebook...though the going to the bar and bring his DS is something Chris has done before... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:46, 27 January 2011 (PST)

*What about [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000426003596 this one?] --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 18:43, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
# "This is my real facebook. I had to make a new one due to all these trolls HARASSING ME AND HACKING MY ACCOUNT"
# Uses an old picture everyone has
# "Proud too say I'm still a virgin :)" group
# Talking about Skyrim without a computer
Not Chris. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:17, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

*This just appeared on my "you might know this person" sidebar on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 [[User:frozenblwf|Frozenblwf]]

*That one seems pretty legit, Frozenblwf. A pic no one has seen before and the profile is private (so obviously not trying to grab everyone's attention). Good find! --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 16:48, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

*Also, note he is wearing ear rings in both ears. Which means they are recent due to him getting his ears pierced. My money is on this being legit. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:07, 6 July 2011 (PDT)CFA

*Looks like the page has been deleted. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 03:53, 7 July 2011 (PDT)

*One of the Bobs on facebook is friends with this account, but I'm pretty sure it's not him because the photo is too old. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1801600742 [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 03:15, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 will take you to Chris's facebook profile that uses his typical "chrischansonichu@aol.com" email address. This is a profile picture we've never seen (or at least I don't think we have)*NOTE: It says it was added THIS monday, the 23 of January 2012, so yes, he's still using facebook. It will need a screen cap added. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:42, 25 January 2012 (PST)
*There's also a note he's published about what he wants in a girl...it's pretty hilariously chris:
**Must Meet In-Person First and Upfront (NO Online/Phone/Mail Contact Acceptable beforehand. Must be Referred to me by my Real Friend(s) or Family).

-21 to 29-years old
-Cute, Pretty, Beautiful, or HOT
-Caring, Sweet, Honest
-Education: High School Graduate and/or Better
-NOT A Smoker
-Social Drinker or non-alcoholic
-Upfront
-No STDs
-Carefree/Light-Hearted
-Moderate to Very Intelligent/Smart (Not Ditzy)
-Takative/Outgoing/Not Shy/Good Self-Esteem
-Slim to Average body type (under 170 lbs)
-Between 4 feet, 10 inches and 5 feet, 10 inches
-Brunette or Blonde hair
-B-Cup size minimum
-Clean
-Casual
-Not Crazy or Abusive
-Make-Up Optional
-Well-Informed to Expert in sex
--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:46, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Doesn't look like Tineye or Google Reverse Image Search are turning up anything, either. Guess it is a new picture. I used to know how to pull someone's full profile picture, but I don't remember anymore. I'll see if I can find it. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 08:47, 25 January 2012 (PST)
::I was so intent on dicking around that I didn't realise that his full profile picture is readily available. Never mind. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 09:04, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Oh my atheist god, he just doesn't get it. While the picture is arguably an improvement over the old ones, this list is... just... just... it has the Chris-essence condensed and distilled in it. It creeps me out. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 09:05, 25 January 2012 (PST)

== Dead link ==

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

* http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian_Weston_Chandler/579729310
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-20 22:38:31, 404 Not Found
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-28 08:04:22, 404 Not Found

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

== Closed/Privatized ==

I can no longer find his account under chrischansonichu@aol.com; he has either closed it or listed it to private. He had a 'facebook friend' named Kim Wilson who is still listed though. Should it be mentioned in the article that as of Valentines day Chris no longer had a visible facebook page? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:26, 15 February 2012 (PST)

==Recent leaks==

As stated previously by the February 2012 page, some screencaps of Chris Facebook wall have been leaked, can we put it on the article or is it too early (a risk of Chris seeing them and leave the internet)--
ADDENDUM : The file name are Chfb1.png to Chfb4.png (uploaded by a user named Westbound)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 13:02, 17 February 2012 (PST)

I doubt anyone would mind you adding them as long as they don't make it on the update right away. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 08:53, 23 February 2012 (PST)

== Something Fishy ==

All of the recent posts on FB seem odd
The writing seems forced and the content seems to perfect.

Im wondering if this is the act of trolls. Especially the "going back to fashion square with my sign" posts. it just seems like the work of a troll or Chris trying to be a troll. In light of the severity of the court cases and the fact that christian was on a FB hiatus that was possibly due to his lawyers direction, i am in severe doubt as to the genuineness of the recent posts. I understand that came from the TRUE and HONEST CWC account but it just seems... fishy... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:26, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
*Canine has confirmed it. Cogs has confirmed it. Anna is friends with the account, and we all know that Anna and the inner circle don't agree with each other. There is no reason to doubt that this account belongs to Chris. Also, Chris's writing has always seemed forced and anything new about him is always unbelievable at first.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 11:34, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
** I don't think slimz was doubting that the account was Chris's, I think slimz was insinuating that these accounts are "100%" Chris. (Either by hack or by assistance) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:05, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
* Chris is probably trying to goad da trollz into a mall confrontation, complete with curse-ye-ha-me-has. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 11:44, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
**I'll admit I think it's all a bit odd but then who knows what is going through Chris's mind at this stage. He seems to be viewing himself as a master troll given the screencaps of the forums and what not. Who knows what he wants. --[[User:Gytrash|Gytrash]] 07:22, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

== "Hynamin"? ==

I believe Chris may be referring to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Hyneman MythBuster Jamie Hyneman] in his most recent note. I have done a quick search of tour information and could not yield anything recent in Virgina. If someone higher on the totem pole could check into this, I think it'd be worth their while. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 20:21, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

*That or he fails at spelling "hymen." [[User:BeefCurtains|BeefCurtains]] 20:47, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
** I bet this is it http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2012/04/042512-vbi-usasef.html an excerpt
"""The USA Science & Engineering Festival will also feature leading science celebrities like Bill Nye of "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage of the "MythBusters" will appear live during the finale expo. Also scheduled to appear are Jeff Lieberman from Discovery Channel’s series "Time Warp" and Apollo Robbins, who is known as the "gentleman thief," from National Geographic’s "Brain Games.""""
[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:03, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

== Backpage ==
Backpage is a site like Craigslist that still allows escort advertising. We could probably browse the backpage site for his area and find someone that was/looked half Cherokee (olive skin, dark hair etc) and call them to get the story (if its at all true) virginia.backpage.com i cant do it from work but maybe later today ill look into it [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:01, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
* Umm... I see where you're going with this, but I'm pretty sure that there's nary a hooker alive that would name-drop their johns to a stranger. [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 16:08, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Regarding the recent posts ==
Chris-chan seems mighty proud of the fact that he mislead us over a small piece of information, and he stated outright that there are more events that he may or may not be outright lying about. Does this mean we should take all his recent Facebook posts with a grain of salt? Including his claims that he got laid? [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 12:09, 3 May 2012 (PDT)
:That's exactly the reason I was arguing that it shouldn't be written in as fact on Da Update. I personally believe that he's telling the truth about it, but stating that anything is fact just because "Chris said so" would be a great way to ruin the integrity of our articles. After the last edit war over this, I'm not going to start another (since I'm busy with exams and don't have time for it), but if you change it, I won't stop you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 01:47, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
:*AGREED ! ! ! this could be an attempt by chris to change the facts about him online, to troll the trolls or to just create a fantasy world where he is no longer a virgin. It sounds legit but considdering there is a "friend" who "Brought them together" this could be a manipulation tactic by someone else. (a troll using chris to troll the trolls... thats priceless) [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:41, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

== Iphone ==

According to the "recent activity" on Chris's facebook...he now can access facebook through his Iphone...which means of course, he has an Iphone. Now does this information need to be posted anywhere in particular? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 00:08, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Facebook

2012-05-08T07:06:16Z

4Macie: /* Gallery */

[[Image:Facebook.jpg|center|300px]]
[[Image:cwc666.PNG|thumb|His friends list has hit the number of [[Clyde Cash|the Beast]].]]
'''Facebook''' is [[Chris]]'s other means of communication aside from [[MySpace]] on his [[Love Quest]]. While often looked over, his correspondence with these [[Trolls|e-women]] reveals that even on the Internet, he manages to convey that he is a fat [[autism|autistic]].

On 31 May 2009, Chris's Facebook was hacked, revealing notes and messages to [[boyfriend-free girls]] in the area in hopes of them becoming his [[sweetheart]]. He failed horribly of course, and [[the Miscreants]] showed us how hard.

Events in 2010 turned Chris firmly against the website. He blamed it in part for his breakup with [[the Wallflower]], and in November had some harsh words and gestures for it while announcing his [[100 2357.MOV|departure from the Internet]].

Sometime in mid 2011, his Facebook account was removed from the site. On 5 [[July 2011]], a new Facebook was discovered with a new picture of Chris. Two days later, his profile was deactivated.

On 2 [[January 2012]], Chris re-opened his Facebook account and uses it as his personal [[Attraction Sign|attraction sign]]. Since then, he has left occasional open notes for trolls and talked to his gal-pals.
==Notes From The Man Himself==

===I am a good man===
{{quotebox|1=
Sunday, January 20, 2008 at 5:57pm

There are some cyber bullies who have taken my words and feelings out of context, and twisted them into meaningless mockery.

Please do not believe those terrible rumors; [[Twin Falling Towers|I am a good man]] who needs a female sweetheart to soothe my pains from loneliness, stress of social influences, and heart-aches.

Please help me, so I can help you one day.
}}

===The Common Question, "Do I know you?"===

{{quotebox|1=
Sunday, January 20, 2008 at 9:49pm

When a person asks you, "Do I know you?", it brings up a greater answer. "I'm not a mind-reader, so I can't tell you how well you know me."
The question is dumb in itself; no one is able to answer it. Because no one can read their mind and answer it with full confidence.
}}

===Man I am SOOO SHY. "How Shy are you?" I am SOOO SHY, that...===

{{quotebox|1=
Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 4:48pm

Today, Jan. 24, 2008, I was at the Alderman Library. I was playing Sudoku on my PSP, and I was listening in on this conversation between a couple of cute ladies just to my right. I've enjoyed just listening to them talk about their things; I will not devulge any details, because I am the man who will keep a secret (Plus, I don't know ALL the details). Anyway, after one of the two left, the gal that stayed sittin' next to me, talked on her cell in what sounded like Dutch or German. IT WAS THE PERFECT OPENING for a conversation towards making a new gal-pal. I had it in my head, "Pardon me, I couldn't help but overhear your chat on your phone, but was that Dutch or German you were speaking?" I HAD THE NERVE SET UP, I was raring to say it, but when I started to say it, the tension and my shyness and my autism choked me, literally; I couldn't even open my mouth to say anything. And she left. I am kicking myself now.

Anyway, THAT IS HOW SHY I AM; I am so shy, that I JUST FREEZE OR CHOKE upon starting to talk to a new girl I don't know yet.
}}

===What I am looking for in a woman===

{{quotebox|1=
Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 1:23am

<nowiki>**</nowiki>Must Meet In-Person First and Upfront (NO Online/Phone/Mail Contact Acceptable beforehand. Must be Referred to me by my Real Friend(s) or Family).

-21 to 29-years old 
-Cute, Pretty, Beautiful, or HOT 
-Education: High School Graduate and/or Better 
-NOT A Smoker 
-Carefree/Light-Hearted 
-Moderate to Very Intelligent/Smart (Not Ditzy) 
-Talkative/Outgoing/Not Shy/Good Self-Esteem 
-Slim to Average body type (under 170 lbs) 
-Between 4 feet, 10 inches and 5 feet 10 inches 
-Brunette or Blonde hair 
-B-Cup size minimum 
-Clean 
-Casual 
-Not Crazy or Abusive 
-Make-Up Optional 
-Well-Informed to Expert in sex
}}

===Unsolicited Friend Requests===

{{quotebox|1=
Sunday, February 5, 2012 at 10:27pm

'''Unsolicited Friend Requests WILL BE DENIED AND DELETED,''' ESPECIALLY from ALL People I have '''NOT met IN PERSON, FACE-TO-FACE, Beforehand.'''
}}

===Shooting Myself in the Foot===

{{quotebox|1=
Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 1:34pm

I have often "shot myself in the foot" with great mistakes, including and especially, all of the mistakes I've made from letting myself be Blackmailed, Tricked, Deceived, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, by immature individuals who hide behind the veil of the internet to create hate-filled slanders of my once good name; those people are nothing more than privacy-invading, [[My Little Pony|gum-gabbing, gossip columnists, working for a gravely corrupted, should-be-fired-for-good "editor in chief".]]
}}

===An Open Note===
{{quotebox|1=
Sunday, [[April 2012|April 1, 2012]] at 11:12pm

I want to make something very clear to everyone on [[the internet]]. The hatred against me for the sake of hatred is unjustifiable, and totally uncalled for. [[White Knights|You People Do Not Really give a damn about what happens to me]]. The ONLY person in this world who knows me most and Truly cares about me is [[Barbara Chandler|my mother]]. The Real Friends I have made throughout my lifetime In Person, FREE From the internet, have had the opportunity to know me for who I Truly Am, a [[Death_threats|Caring]], [[Chris_and_remorse|Compassionate]], all-around [[Twin_Falling_Towers|Good Person]]. Those people like me at the very least, NOT counting all of the deceitful people I have had the displeasure of knowing who [[Megan Schroeder|turned Coldest]] [[The Wallflower|Shoulder Against me]] and STARTED all of the Online Hatred. And the rest of you who have Not Met Me AT ALL and INSIST of friending me online; DO I KNOW YOU PEOPLE? NO, I do Not, and I do not think I will EVER want to meet the Vast Majority of you, because you all ONLY want to add further to the [[CWCki|Gabby Gossip Column full of hatred and uncaring content.]]

The ONLY person I have in the world who Cares about me the most is my mother, [[Barbara]], and outside of [[14 Branchland Court|this house]], I do not really have that many people to ANY person who Cares about me at all, even my relatives. NOBODY cares what happens to me and my mother. To the Majority of you, I pray the soul of [[Bob Chandler|my father]] gives you all nightmares, and may [[God]] have mercy on your souls.

You Do Not Really Care About Me, Christian Weston Chandler.
}}

===An Open Note (4/13/2012)===

(note: while it was once a public note, it has either been removed or set to private)

{{quotebox|1=
Friday, [[April 2012|April 13, 2012]] at 10:08pm

It is true, I, Christian Weston Chandler, have had sexual intercourse with a lovely woman Wednesday, April 4, 2012. There is nothing inconceivable about it from the lovely lady and I having the pleasant conversation, exchanging phone numbers, and the very pleasant experience between her and I behind the closed doors at her place. Penile/Vaginal intercourse, Cuddling and Blowing have all taken place.

[[Ego|I do not require any congratulations]] or communications towards any discussions of the details, because I will never tell the full story anywhere online, and certainly anyone I do not, and have not, known personally and In Person.

And to all who continue to pick on and torture me, this is one thing that will ONLY be in your own [[Lie|self-fabricated theories and fables]]; you will never get the full story. And your reign of terror will only result in mockery towards your own Troll/Cyber-Bully kind. You all have my pity towards your [[Chris and remorse|selfish]], [[CWC_Calls_Out_Three_Na%C3%AFve_YouTubers#CWC_Calls_Out_sonichuizcool|demoralizing]], [[28_October_2011#Aftermath|incriminating]], [[Virgin With Rage|lonely]], [[Chris and Anger|hate-for-hate's-sake-filled jealousy and hatred]], and whatever [[Autism|mental and emotional issues]] you each likely suffer from.

You Trolls, Get A Life.

Sincerely, 
Christian Weston Chandler 
4/13/2012
}}

===to @cogsdev from me, @CWCSonichu===

{{quotebox|1=
Monday [[April 2012|April 16, 2012]] at 4:21am

Heh. Heh. Heh. ;:j

I am watching YOU, foolish Cyber-Bullies. I LAUGH at your ill idiosyncratic discussions and [[Ego|thinking you all are better than me]]. If you are better, Why have you NOT Learned any Maturity for yourselves. It is wrong to continuously [[CWC_Calls_Out_Three_Na%C3%AFve_YouTubers#CWC_Calls_Out_sonichuizcool|laugh at people with a disability]], and their mistakes, because [[Chris and Reality|the tables turn on the laughing bully and troll]].

[[Chris_and_religion#Delusions_of_Godhood.3F|I am in your dreams]], haunting you for your aiding and abeting towards your sole hate-filled reasons, [[Chris and English|jealosies and lackluster purposes]] against me and my family and friends.

You ALL will pay for your Crimes and Sins of Cyber-Bullying the [[Virgin_with_rage#No_longer_a_virgin_.28no_word_on_the_rage.29|once innocent]] good people and myself. Changing your avatar and screen name and website are all useless, because I Can And Will Find YOU again and again, and I will continue to Laugh at you all and your immature idiosyncries.

HA HA HA.

<nowiki>**</nowiki>This note will be removed from here after being copied or screencapped.<ref>http://789chan.org/cwc/src/13346684418.jpg</ref>
}}

===Save and Keep Derpy Hooves Pony.===

{{quotebox|1=
Wednesday, 25 April 2012 at 17:45

In my humble opinion, I actually like [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_characters#Derpy|Derpy]] for her name, given I feel the new voice is an improvement; her name is still very cute. I take no offense whatsoever to the word. I first heard the word from [[Wikipedia:The Biggest Douche in the Universe|an episode]] of "[[South Park]]"; I thought it was only gibberish, and it was funny.

Derpy should still be a featured character, because let's face it, NOBODY, or NOPONY, is mentally perfect, and it is a character like Derpy here that makes us all aware of mental disabilities, great (low-functioning) or small (high-functioning) to tolerate them and help them towards better self-confidence, because [[Chris and reality|we ALL need to feel like we are capable of surviving in this world, community and all public and social situations.]]

I, Christian Weston Chandler, of [[Ruckersville]], VA, [[USA]], respect and like Derpy, and I encourage [[Wikipedia:Lauren Faust|Lauren Faust]], [[Wikipedia:Amy Keating Rogers|Amy Keating Rogers]], and the rest of the [[My Little Pony|MLP:FIM]] crew to keep her on WITH her name, and create an episode teaching tolerance.

Christian Weston Chandler.
April 25, 2012

MLP: FiM - Derpy Talks and Derps
www.youtube.com
UPDATE! Derpy has been removed as canon from this episode. Whether it is permanent or not is not yet known. To see why, click this link to an e-mail the writ...

[[File:Saved.jpg]]

<nowiki>http://www.savederpy.com</nowiki>
}}

Chris later commented

{{quotebox|1=
And what's more good, I have the Original Episode recorded as well from when it aired on [[Wikipedia:The Hub (TV channel)|the Hub]] on Janurary 21, 2012 on my DVR. I really like Derpy. Although I take back what I said about the new voice; the Original Voice IS Better.
}}

===I have decided===
{{quotebox|1=
Thursday, 26 [[April 2012]] at 19:35

The time is too great, and these qre grave desperate times. I am going to start going back to [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|Fashion Square Shopping Center]] in [[Charlottesville]], Virginia, WITH my sign and going into my [[Sweetheart Search]] with Full On Guns a Blazin'. I will be there on bi-daily starting this Saturday, April 27, 2012 fom 2:00 to 5:30 PM, EST. And I do not care Who shows up, and [[Mimms|Photographs]] are encouraged with gusto of the mall, me And my Sign on the [[Random-access humor|Hippo on my Head]].

I Welcome All.

Sincerely, 
Christian Weston Chandler 
April 25, 2012
}}

Chris later revised this note, with additions bolded.

{{quotebox|1=
The time is too great, and these qre grave desperate times. I am going to start going back to Fashion Square Shopping Center in Charlottesville, Virginia, WITH my sign and going into my Sweetheart Search with Full On Guns a Blazin'. I will be there on bi-daily '''(Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays) starting this Saturday, April 28, 2012''' fom 2:00 to 5:30 PM, EST. And I do not care Who shows up, and Photographs are encouraged with gusto of the mall, me And my Sign on the Hippo on my Head. '''(EVERYBODY has a Hippo on their head; it is called the Hippocampus)'''

I Welcome All.

Sincerely, 
Christian Weston Chandler 
April 25, 2012
}}

Chris later commented:

{{quotebox|1=
I meant the 28th; it was my mistake in judgment at the time of typing up this Note.}}

===Maniacal Laughter from Who now? Oh, wait, It Is ME! >8D===
28 April 2012
{{quotebox|1=

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

You, ALL of YOU, Trolls and Cyber-Bullies, You all are SOO [[Chris and the Law|Fallible]], [[Jackie|Gullible]], [[Death_threat#Chris_as_recipient|Paranoia-Prone]], [[Chris and Fashion|Clownish]], At the Bottom of the Heap, Stupid FOOLS. For I, Christian Weston Chandler, have [[Chris and Reality|FOOLED the VAST Majority of You All]] (not counting those who have posted their own Suspicions). YES, YES, YES! I HAVE been reading your [[Christian Weston Chandler|comically inept]] and crackpot theoretical posts on your Forum. NOTHING IS Private to and of you fools. ;8j

To preface, I will enlighten your puny minds straightforward. I HAD no intention, purpose, or Ability to go to Fashion Square At All on today the 28th. Do you want to know why? OH, you all are soo impresionable. On the 31st of March, I was really having a bad day, what with the upcoming court date on the 4th of April and all. I was feeling very irritable then. I was walking the mall peacefully, but with the stress in my head. I answer a few calls from a troll or two, just to give you all a piece of my anger. Yes, Yes, LAUGH and SCOFF all you want. My answers were cursory and loud. Overheard, YES, I was chased by Jerkops. But I did not receive the yellow slip until the 25th of April that said, "BANNED". So, I later decided to pull a prank on YOU ALL. The elaborate Facebook Note; LETTING YOU ALL shoot yourselves in the foot more by Prank Calling the Mall, and their latest Manager, Mr. Weiner (his name was on the slip, next to "Manager"). I too scoff at his [[Pickle|small-sausage name.]] All I had to do was stay at home with doors locked, and let you all argue and fight it out. I read your posts and laughed and laughed at EVERYTHING you thought was true or what was false; theories and [[Honor roll|mistaken "facts".]]

You all THINK you know me, but you REALLY DO NOT, and You All JUST DO NOT, AND NEVER WILL, UNDERSTAND ME AT ALL. And as long as your Purpose of Knowing Me consists of that of Gossip Columnist or Worse, Trolling, Bullying, Cyber-Bullying, [[Megan|Abuse]], or anything of Malcontent, I Do NOT want you to Know Me EVER.

In the END, you ALL have played Right Into My Hands, like me overlooking the battlefield and picking up/placing you all one by one into the BOMBING RANGE CENTER! I am a LOT more [[Slow-in-the-mind|INTELLIGENT]], [[Autism|WISE]] and [[Naive|KNOWLEDGEABLE]] than your puny minds can theorize; I am NOT STUPID, nor am I a moron. And you know what? [[Chris and Hypocrisy|YOU ALL Have MADE Me This Way; CRAZY and PARANOID with Loss of PEACE OF MIND.]]

I am WATCHING each and every one of you Fallible Trolls, and REST-ASSURED, [[Lie|I know where each of you live, and I am Coming After Each of You All!]]

YES, It was ME, and these posts WERE Real.

Sincerely,

Christian Weston Chandler

4/28/2012

<nowiki>**</nowiki>More Photos and Comments are in the appropriate Photo Album of mine, "[[Cwcki Forum ScreenCaps]]".
}}

===I am still Reading Your Posts, Suckas===
{{quotebox|1=Monday, 30 April 2012 at 01:41

And to quell one question. "[[JenkinsJinkies]]" "[[Trollin_Train#Hey.2C_Everyone.21_J.J._has_arrived._.28Thu_29_July_2010_12:19_AM.29|camp story]]"; FAKE as any of y'all's sarcastic responses. The idea for that pile of crap I typed just to [[Chris and Reality|convince y'all to believe]] originated from [[Family Guy|Peter Griffin]]'s Parrot; [[Wikipedia:Long John Peter|the episode]] Chris went out with the vet assistant. Polly repeated, "I had a gay experince at camp". [[Rollin' and Trollin'|PUNK'D!!!]]

[[File:Lucrid.jpg]]
}}

===Hey, Trollies===
{{quotebox|1=Tuesday, 1 [[May 2012]] at 5:53

You REALLY want to know what the Victory was for me on the Mall Prank? I'll spell it out for you in a nutshell. I got the BAN note THE DAY BEFORE I made the NOTE on me going back there. You fallible fools had NO PREVIOUS CLUE, neither from me, nor ANYONE or ANYWHERE else. IF you all had prior ban knowledge, Would You who have made the trip, MADE the trip? NO, you would not have. I KNEW THE CRITICAL DETAIL, and YOU ALL DID NOT; I Fooled You All.

And I'll tell you another thing, I DID Have [[Chris and sex|Sexual Intercourse]] with a Half-[[Cherokee]] Woman, but you all will never find out who. I'll give you an inkling; she's somewhere on the [[Wikipedia:Village Voice Media|backpage]].

You ALL think YOU KNOW ME; You REALLY DO NOT. I hold MORE information within myself that NONE of you will EVER KNOW. Like, MAYBE I went to a show starring the Hynamin recently. MAYBE I was ON STAGE for one of their demonstrations. MAYBE I got their autographs on my self-made [http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Duct-Tape-Wallet duct-tape wallet]. MAYBE I do not have a duct-tape wallet. I will neither confirm or deny anything for YOU life-wrecking bastards.

I ain't tellin' ya nothing.

[[Autism|I use that statement in the ironic sense that I am currently informing you that I am not going to tell you anything.]]

I ain't tellin' ya nothing.

Good Day,
Christian W. Chandler.
[[May 2012|May 1, 2012]]

P.S. It is now OVER Two-Hundred Screencaps, and Still Counting.}}

Chris's "Hynamin" show is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jamie Hyneman|Jamie Hyneman]]; there was a ''[[Wikipedia:MythBusters|MythBusters]]'' live show in [[Barack Obama|Washington, D.C.]] on 24 [[March 2012]], 100 miles (160 km) from Ruckersville.<ref>[http://www.mythbusterstour.com/washington-tickets/]</ref> Hyneman was also at a USA Science & Engineering Festival on 28-29 [[April 2012]] at Virginia Tech, 162 miles (261 km) away.<ref>[http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2012/04/042512-vbi-usasef.html]</ref>

===Hey, Doofs! Leave Anna Alone!===
{{quotebox|1=Saturday, 5 [[May 2012]] at 6:43

She and I are friends, and we talk, but we each have our own lives. She does NOT deserve to be bothered by you doofy trolls at all. It has always been ME you want. She will never ever talk about me even in her wall posts, and she will never friend or acknowledge any of you. Yes, she is cute, and it is possible that she may look like my [[mom]] at a younger age, but I do not see my mom in her, and she is who she is, and I respect Anna as a [[Gal-pal|friend.]]

Aim your [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shit]] towards me alone, and Leave All of My Friends and Family alone.

Sincerely,

Christian W. Chandler.

May 3, 2012}}

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:Cwcfacebook1.jpg|Wall
Image:Cwcfacebook2.jpg|Profile, part 1
Image:Cwcfacebook3.jpg|Profile, part 2
Image:Cwcfacebook4.jpg|Profile, part 3
Image:Cwcfacebook5.jpg|
Image:Cwcfacebook6.jpg|
Image:Cwcfacebook7.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook8.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook9.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook10.jpg
Image:Christina1.jpg|17-year-old Christina 1
Image:Christina2.jpg|17-year-old Christina 2
Image:Christina3.jpg|17-year-old Christina 3
Image:Cwcfacebook11.jpg|Chris rejects a single mom. The ironic thing is that this woman was the only one vaguely interested in meeting up with Chris.
Image:Cwcfacebook12.jpg|"Do I know you?" 1
Image:Cwcfacebook13.jpg|"Do I know you?" 2
Image:Cwcfacebook14.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook15.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook16.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook17.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook18.jpg
Image:Chrisfacebook2011.png| A screencap of Chris's page from [[July 2011]].
File:Chris's Jan 23rd 2012 profile pic.png | Chris's page in [[2012]].
File:Christran2.jpg | Another facebook profile picture in 2012. Note that it is in the same place as the previous profile picture except Chris is smiling in this one.
File:Chris%27s_FB_Profile_pic_as_of_2-2-12_at_10.58.51_AM.png | Chris's Profile as of Feb 2012
File:Cwcfacebook.png|Chris, now with head band.
File:Chris%27s_FB_Profile_and_Note_as_of_02-06-12_at_1.01.29_AM.png| New note about friend requests
File:Chfb1.png| February leak part 1
File:Chfb2.png| February leak part 2
File:Chfb3.png| February leak part 3
File:Chfb4.png| February leak part 4
File:Cwc.png|February leak part 5
File:61013333.jpg|Full size Picture of Drawing
File:Fbnote1.PNG|Facebook public note 1 (31 March 2012)
File:Fbnote2.PNG|Facebook public note 2 (id.)
File:Ufr.PNG|Another public note.
File:DoubleDogDare.png|Chris double dog daring the intruder of his facebook.
File:Derpy.PNG|The first Brony speaks.
File:FSM2.PNG|Chris's master trolling attempt.
File:Noet chris knows now about us.png|Great Director is watching you.
File:Readinposts.PNG|Chris mocks Lucrid.
File:Trollies.PNG|Chris fucked a hooker.
File:HeyDoofs.PNG|Chris white knighting [[Anna]].
File:Chris_FB_Profile_PIc_(May_8th,2012).png| A profile picture as of May 8th,2012
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
*[[Facebook messages]]
*[[Facebook statuses]]
==References==
<references/>
==External links==
*[http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?imfjwnjrzi0 Notes]
*[http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?20mnnd1juu5 Status]
*[http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 His new Facebook profile]
{{The Internet}}
[[Category:Chris's websites]]

File:Chris FB Profile PIc (May 8th,2012).png

2012-05-08T07:03:32Z

4Macie: Chris's new facebook profile as of May 8th, 2012.

Chris's new facebook profile as of May 8th, 2012.

Charlottesville Fashion Square

2012-04-29T17:31:14Z

4Macie: /* Chris vs. Fashion Square */

[[Image:FashionSquareMallExternal.jpg|thumb|200px|External view of Charlottesville Fashion Square.]]

[[Image:Fashionsquareretail399 thumb.jpg|thumb|200px|Image from inside the mall. OMG!!! A [[Hex Bawx]] Store!!!]]

'''Charlottesville [[Fashion]] Square''' is one of the original venues for [[Chris]]'s [[Love Quest]] exploits. Like most of his "attraction locations", it hasn't done much for him, and he has twice been forcibly removed from the premises, once for loitering and once for creating a loud disturbance. Nevertheless, it remains one of the fixtures of his existence outside his home, and he frequently encourages his fans or interested people to meet him there.

'''Fun Fact:''' The mall was also used in the Tom Clancy book ''The Teeth of the Tiger'' as the scene of an Islamic [[terrorist]] act. The only relevance this has with Chris is that he also caused terror there himself to many [[gal pal|YOUNG LADIES]] and [[jerkop|security guards]].

==Chris and the Fashion Square==
It was in this mall where Chris met [[Anna McLerran|Anna]] and [[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer|"The Tale of the Crazy Pacer"]] got its start.

It was here that he had his heart smashed down to 15% by [[Hanna]], and presumably where he (accompanied by [[Bob|his father]]) went on his "date" with [[Emily]], who was later rescued by [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]. It's safe to say that, at one point, a large portion of Chris's time spent outside the house was at this mall.

Due to the misadventures Chris had here, this place holds a significant role in Christory. Say "hi" to manager [[ScotPalazzo]] should you ever visit.

==Chris vs. Fashion Square==
Chris has had trouble with the management and security at Fashion Square on a number of occasions over the years.

On 5 August [[2004]], according to [[CWC's Diary]], Chris's attempts to fish for a girlfriend with a [[Red String of Fate]] were cut short by a [[jerkop]] who destroyed that particular Love Quest accessory. A month later, on 6 September, he had another run-in with a security guard who was apparently treated to a rendition of Chris's "Lonesome Virgin story".

11 September 2004 saw Chris's first partial ban from the mall, forbidding him from returning without a parent to accompany him. His diary doesn't explain exactly why he was banned, but [[Sub-Episode 1|Sub-Episode #1]] dramatizes the day's events. Reading between the lines of the comic book version, Chris was loitering and soliciting with his [[Attraction Sign]], became belligerent with security, and was arrested and removed from the mall.

Chris was apparently able to return to the mall unaccompanied by the next spring. On 29 March 2005, the infamous date with Hanna took place, after which Chris emitted an anguished "NOOOOOOOO" that led him to being banned from the mall once again.<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat#ban|Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie e-mails part 2#ban|Jackie E-mails - Part II]]</ref> [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]] indicates that the ban (which again prevented Chris from going to the mall without a parent) was still in effect towards the end of 2008.

According to the reports of a field agent, Chris was seen 'sperging at the mall accompanied by his parents in the summer of 2010. Subsequently, on 31 August 2010, he was spotted (and filmed) hanging out at the mall alone. This suggests that either the bans have expired, or Chris has managed to [[Flipnote Hatena|evade yet another ban]].

In early 2012, Chris's leaked [[Facebook statuses]] revealed that he had returned to loitering at the mall on a regular basis. His "normal plan" at the mall, according to the leaks, is to "sit, hang and wait for a Ms. Right."

On 4 February, he managed to get himself in trouble again, by leaving flyers decrying [[Michael Snyder]] around the mall. A security guard found them and attempted to speak to Chris about them. Chris then fled the mall and drove away.

On 28 April, Chris releases a facebook message stating that, on the 25th of April, he had received the ban-hammer for getting angry in the mall when he answered some calls from Trolls.

==Chris captured on video==
On the last day of [[August 2010]], the same cameraman who spotted Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] posted this brief snippet on [[YouTube]], showing Chris slumped in a chair and staring creepily at a young woman at the mall.

Chris's [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|e-mail exchanges with Clyde Cash]] reveal that he was sitting around waiting to be rewarded for destroying his [[PS3]].

{{collapsible
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| Stardate = 31 August 2010
| Maker = 0ArchieBunker0
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==Comic references==
===[[Sub-Episode 1|Sub-Episode #1]]: "Jerkop-tastropie"===
Dramatization of Chris getting busted by [[jerkop|mall security]] for loitering.

===[[Sub-Episode 2|Sub-Episode #2]]: "The Rise & Fall of My Heart"===
Dramatization of a [[Hanna|girl who works at a Starbucks]] trolling Chris by taking him out on a date.

==See also==
* [[CWCville Shopping Center]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.simon.com/mall/default.aspx?ID=117 Official Website]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_Fashion_Square Wikipedia Article]

{{Stub}}
{{Places}}
{{CWCverse}}

[[Category:Attraction Locations]]

Talk:Facebook

2012-04-28T04:05:25Z

4Macie: /* Something Fishy */

Anna McLerran

2012-04-21T06:07:53Z

4Macie: Undo revision 159226 by Steve Landcleamer (talk)image was deleted and unnecessary

[[Image:Anamc.jpg|thumb|Never trust a Mormon]]

'''Anna McLerran''' (born 30 July [[1985]]<ref>http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=790355640#/profile.php?id=1564560452&ref=ts</ref>) is a [[gal-pal]] and [[white knight]] who met [[Chris]] through her job at the Pac Sun in the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]. Chris was brought to her attention when, during the [[Love Quest]] era, he started advertising himself in front of the store. This inspired her short story [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer]], published early in [[2005]].<ref>[http://dangerless.blogspot.com/2005/02/story-7.html]</ref>

After publishing the story she befriended Chris and he threw her a surprise birthday party. Chris made romantic advances towards her until she told him she was a Mormon and a lesbian, even before coming out to family, in order to rebuff his advances.<ref>Via [http://www.formspring.me/AMcLerran Formspring]:"...it was the only way to get him to stop thinking of me as a 'candidate'..."</ref><ref>[http://thundercamp.tumblr.com/post/2784133782/tell-your-parents-something-youve-been-witholding Anna's Tumblr page]</ref> Chris refers to her as proof that he can be friends with [[homos|homosexuals]].<ref>http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/IRC_(27_December_2008)</ref>

==Protection of Chris==
After Christian discovered The Crazy Pacer story on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], Anna felt a need to defend Chris against the internet at large. In a textbook case of [[White knight|white knighting]], she edited Chris's ED page. Anna added a new section to the article, in an attempt to paint Chris as a [[Chris and Fashion|goofy clown]], rather than a [[Chris Loses It|perverse psychotic]].

{{quote|I wrote that blog back when I didn't know Chris personally. I got to know him soon after that, and we became real friends. He's a really nice guy, with a great sense of [[Random-access humor|humor]]. Yes, to the outsider he is quirky, and some of his actions and the things he says can be funny, but at the same time he cares deeply about his friends, and all the other good stuff nobody looking at this page wants to hear about. I just wanted to put that out there, though, since I obviously can't permanently delete the blog inclusion. I'll just have to wait until this whole website is shut down for good.|Note from Anniebannany<ref>http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=Chris-chan&diff=next&oldid=1997694799</ref>}}

This passage was so masturbatory, it was assumed that it was written by Christian himself and it was credited as such. However, in [[December 2009]], Anna admitted to writing the article section herself.<ref>http://twitter.com/ourladyanna/status/6427862439</ref> It is unknown why she had actually befriended him, but according to her, her intentions were pure. <ref>http://twitter.com/ourladyanna/status/40869014897045504</ref>

{{quote|C-Chan continues to crack me up with his antics. I know he's straight, but LAWD. If that boy would just heed even a few of my warnings, I flatter myself to think he'd go far.|Anna (clearly delusional)<ref>http://annamclerran.blogspot.com/2009/01/el-dee-ess-bee-see.html</ref>}}

On the night of 5 [[December 2009]], Anna complained about socialite [[Wikipedia:Nicole Ritchie|Nicole Ritchie]] having appropriated a classic picture of Christian in his mother's underwear to use against faux-punk guitarist [[Wikipedia:Benji Madden|Benji Madden]]. Anna, self-appointed guardian of Chris, kicked up a stink, demanding that the picture be taken down, as if it could not be found elsewhere. According to Anna, "he's autistic and does whatever the internet tells him to do :(",<ref>http://twitpic.com/s7pfi</ref> ignoring the substantial amount of depravity that he exhibits without any outside encouragement. Anna went on to criticize the CWCki and other sources of the truth about Chris, claiming that "there is very little truth to anything those websites say about him. trust me on this one. he is an awesome guy in real life. [[Death threats|super nice]]."<ref>Ibid.</ref> This is all very amusing when you consider her initial reaction to seeing the picture: "WHAT THE FUCK hahahahahhahahahaaha he's getting so famous!!"<ref>[http://twitter.com/ourladyanna/status/6377147359 Anna's Twitter]</ref>

In [[April 2012]], after Chris's [[facebook]] status about losing his [[virgin]]ity became public, Anna (using the name Fighta Jet Lopez) lashed out against trolls, and tried to offer Chris advice about befriending people online that he didn't know in real life.<ref>http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/435/anacwc.png</ref>
{{-}}

===Twitter ramblings about Chris===
Following Anna's facebook responses to Chris's loss of virginity, she saw an influx of trolls trying to befriend her on facebook and follow her on [[twitter]]. Despite voicing her hostility to the people who were following her only because they were trolling Chris, she continued to talk about him and them.

{| class="wikitable"
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| I'm fed up with the way people have treated my friend over the years. He doesn't deserve the hand life dealt him, and it's stopping now.<ref>http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1281/tweet2.png</ref>
| 12 April 2012
| 10:37 PM
|-
| dear fat, ugly manchildren constantly trying to add me on facebook to screencap my interactions with christian: you are all getting blocked.<ref>http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1281/tweet2.png</ref>
| 13 April 2012
| 9:23 PM
|-
| and a special fuck you to any of you cunts who follow me on twitter purely in case i say something about chris.<ref>http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1281/tweet2.png</ref>
| 13 April 2012
|9:24 PM
|-
| so much negativity...some people need to go live their own lives! well actually, everyone needs to. ha<ref>http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1746/tweet1.png</ref>
| 15 April 2012
| 12:10 AM
|-
| tell me, basement dwellers, what are you hoping to accomplish with this? i'm a bit too evolved to take your bait. get a life, please.<ref>http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1746/tweet1.png</ref>
| 15 April 2012
| 1:45 PM
|-
|}

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:AVDYT01-001.jpg
Image:0689-ANNABD2.JPG|Everyone's favorite crypto-troll, Anna.
Image:0690-ANNABD3.JPG|A seemingly innocent party...
Image:0691-ANNABD4.JPG|...with cards...
Image:0692-ANNABD5.JPG|...the close company of friends...
Image:0693-AnnaBD7.JPG|...cake...
Image:0697-AnnaBD10.JPG|...(too hard to tell)...
Image:0694-AnnaBD8.JPG|...aaaaaaaaaand here's Chris.
Image:0695-AnnaBD9.JPG|"You gonna get raped."
Image:0696-AnnaBD6.JPG|Yes, she was smiling, but you can see that on the inside she was dying.
</gallery>
</center>

==Sources==
<references/>

{{People}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:McLerran, Anna}}
[[Category:Gal pals]]

Twitter

2012-04-17T14:25:10Z

4Macie: /* 16 April 2012 */ Chris...what's the point in having a twitter if you only have one follower...

{{quote|NO TWITTER ALLOWED!!!|Chris's initial reaction}}
{{quote|...I have later decided to go into the Twitter Fad and add a small Feed under the C-Log Box.|Chris [[CWC Blog#28 December 2009|after a change of heart]]}}
{{quote|SHUT UP!|Chris's first tweet tells us exactly what he really thinks}}
[[Image:CWCTwitter.jpg|thumb|right|"'''Short''', '''timely''' messages from Christian W Chandler": Twitter marketing department's biggest inadvertent lie]]
'''[[Wikipedia:Twitter|Twitter]]''' is a popular social networking and microblogging service where people can post messages that are up to 140 characters in length. While it has had its uses, it is frequently described as a pointless fad, and if even ''Chris'' calls it a fad, perhaps there is something to this claim.

Chris apparently had no idea why Twitter was designed the way it is designed. Most of the time, he acted as if Twitter is just a normal blog that inexplicably splits the messages into 140 character chunks for no reason. It's almost impossible to read his updates, which obviously makes following and replying to him hard.

== History ==

Chris was inspired to register his own Twitter account, ''CWCSonichu'',<ref>[http://twitter.com/CWCSonichu CWCSonichu]</ref> when the [[CWCipedia]] administrator insisted on adding a live Sonichu Twitter feed <ref>[http://twitter.com/#search?q=-RT%20sonichu]</ref> onto the CWCipedia [[Mailbag]] page, and later the CWCipedia front page. This feed picked up all mentions of the word "[[Sonichu]]" (hence Chris's use of the prefix "C.C. Sonichu says:"), to provide the loyal fanbase real-time coverage of their favorite comic and game hero and reactions to his weird antics from other fans. The CWCipedia sysop, in his infinite wisdom, elected to allow arbitrary, unmoderated comments from all fans to appear on the front page, to fully leverage the power of Web 2.0, user-created content, reader participation and all that modern nonsense.

Careful readers may start to notice that there's a slight conflict in this: Chris had stated many times that he wanted to be in complete control over the CWCipedia. In a development that surprised no one, the live feed was promptly overrun by [[troll]]s. Chris was furious, and was compelled to write his own updates to drown out all of the [[homos|gay allegations]] and other [[pickle]]-related activity that was going on on his web page.

However, as it is with all of the other things in this world, Chris's focus on Twitter waned over time. In [[May 2010]], the live Twitter feed was removed from CWCipedia, because apparently certain trolls failed to notice that Chris quit paying attention to his own web page and ''(*ahem*)'' the activities of the trolls in the Twitter feed started to make Chris look positive in comparison.

== Subscriptions ==

Chris followed 29 people and groups, all of them related to [[Video games|gaming]]. Among these are...

* ''...relevant information on [[PS3|Life Upgrades]]:'' PlayStation, ps3fanboy, PS3_Trophies
* ''...accounts related to [[LittleBigPlanet|the sweetest non-Chinese hobby of all]]:'' Media_Molecule, LittleBigPlanet [No longer subscribed as that account was suspended for some reason], LittleBIGFan, SackBoy4Pluto, Mm_Sackgirl
* ''...respectable, reliable and impartial game journalists and media:'' Veronica <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[10 September 2009|Veronica Belmont]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>, Qore, GamesRadar, GameTrailers, gamespot, IGN, g4tv, GamePro, xplay, gamenewsps3 <nowiki>[G4]</nowiki>, gameinformer
* ''...game houses which produce games that Chris may play, if properly baited away from LittleBigPlanet-related activities:'' Naughty_Dog, insomniacgames, SEGA, EA, Ubisoft, CriterionGames, NISAmerica <nowiki>[Nippon Ichi Software]</nowiki>, RockBand, namcogames
* ''...[[Monthly Tugboat|tugboat]] sailing destinations:'' amazongames
* ''...events which Chris doesn't attend:'' Official_PAX

Notably, [[10 September 2009|Veronica Belmont]] (a video game show host and also, OMG, a woman) is the only real person among these subscriptions. This does wonders to dispel rumors that Chris is a living video game geek stereotype and hence beyond merely undateable.

== Chris's Twitter ramblings ==

=== 27 December 2009 ===

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| SHUT UP!
| 03:26 UTC
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| I, Christian Weston Chandler, DO NOT SUPPORT [[Homos|GAY]] LIFE WHATSOEVER!
| 03:27 UTC
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| Listen to me, [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Jack Thaddeus|Jack Thadius]] are BOTH GOD DAMN [[Trolls|TROLLS]]! DO NOT LISTEN TO EITHER OF THEM!
| 03:27 UTC
|-
|}

These precede the "test" the following day, and don't have the "C.C. Sonichu says:" prefix. Apparently, at the time, Chris was confused on how the Twitter feed works and [[Honor Roll|had to be told explicitly by the Management how to work this thing]].

=== 28 December 2009 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: I apologize for uploading late; [[Biological clock|fell asleep early]]; plan to adjust upload time accordingly; it's all cool.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I will answer [[mailbag]] later today; had to shovel snow; have more [[chores]] to do; stay safe, well and straight.
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=== 29 December 2009 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: I, Christian Weston Chandler, am Straight, and I will remain as such FOREVER; Quit Mislabeling ME and my characters!
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I am very sick and tired having to deal with any [[Mailbag|letters and discussions]] from people who are GROSSLY In Error on the fact
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| C.C. Sonichu Says: I had to CORRECT one whole letter, sending the wrong original into the Reject Mailbag. DO NOT MAKE ME HAVE TO DEAL...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...WITH THAT GOD DAMN CRAP!
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| C.C. Sonichu says: [[Stress sigh|*taking deep breaths*]]
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I'm going to answer the [[Common Questions]] now; afterwards, if you have any questions, you may check for it being answered
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| C.C. Sonichu says: And if your question is not there, then you may ask it in your letter; I do not like to repeat myself, that is my...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...[[Bob|Father]]'s Job; repeating himself in speech. UGH!!!!
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I've just finished the [[Common Questions]]. To answer a Tweeted Question, Minute Maid Lemonade or [[My Coke Rewards|Coca Cola]].
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Chris actually spelled out "*taking deep breaths*". While people sometimes explain in text-based media what they're doing in response to comments, and describe how they're feeling, this comes across as explaining things a bit too literally. Instead of drawing attention to his anger, he draws attention to the fluid dynamics of his body.

=== 30 December 2009 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: I am coloring in the current pair of pages; one of which along with a few future pages will have real-life me within...
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=== 31 December 2009 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: I have completed and uploaded two new pages for [[Sonichu 10|Book 10]]; I will answer another [[mailbag]] later this afternoon...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: NO ADVERTISEMENTS ARE ALLOWED IN THE INTRODUCTION BOX, and as Captain of this Cwcipedia, I will be respetected.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I answered another mailbag; I answered more [[Common Questions]] for the F.A.Q.; feeling tired, will rest then start next...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...pages.
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=== 2 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says:...and I assert my right as Captain of Cwcipedia with My Own Ads around the site that I FULLY SUPPORT...
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| C.C. Sonichu says:...Removal of Any of ALL of MY Ads is consider Mutiny, and Mutiny will not be tolerated. Stay Safe, and have a good day.
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=== 5 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: I have learned from my mistake; I promise not to dwell on [[Jack]]'s Ads (at least they're non-offensive right now)...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: And the Cwcipedia has some money to last for months to years anyway; I will not repeat the mistake I have made recently.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I apologize for the downtime, and I appreciate all of y'all's loyalty and patience; Stay Safe, and have a good day.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Minor setback, I am having trouble logging in; I'm looking into it with the SysOp; If I don't update tonight...
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| C.C. Sonichu says:...I will definitely update tomorrow.
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=== 6 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: will have another pair of pages tomorrow as usual. Enjoy the set of pages for now...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...and I hope [[Clyde]] and [[Jack]] get the MESSAGE of [[Chris and religion|if they do not make ammends for their misdeeds, devils will gnash theirs.]]
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=== 7 January 2010 ===

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=== 8 January 2010 ===

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=== 13 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: Firstly, I am decreeing that [[homos]]exuals will have equal relationship rights within [[Cwcville]], yet gay marriage is still..
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| C.C. Sonichu says: .Illegal and Wrong.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Second, I am aware of the reasons of the Trio of individuals who are behind the Hideous [[Asperpedia]] of WHY they are...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...tormenting me like this. If they will Read the following, or if anyone will relay, I will make amends towards them
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| C.C. Sonichu says: To [[Alec]]: You have NO RIGHT in drawing MY characters in [[Asperchu|your comics]], because I have specifically spoke AGAINST IT,...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...and you DARE to copy and paste my response and STRIKE AND ADD IN ONLY WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR! I admit I have done that
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| C.C. Sonichu says: in some Mailbag letters, and I apologize for that, but I did that sometimes, because I felt offended by some of their
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| C.C. Sonichu says: content. I would appreciate it if you would just give up your game, remove all the ads on MY Cwcipedia, and just move on
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| C.C. Sonichu says: YOU HAVE your own life in Minnesota at your [[Wikipedia:Amtrak|Amtrak]]; Quit Messing Up My Life, or [[Death threats|I WILL come after you]].
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| C.C. Sonichu says: To [[Evan George]]: I offered to make [[Simonchu]] and [[Simonla]] Brother and Sister, yet you continue on to give me grief and hate
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| C.C. Sonichu says: [[Chris_and_negotiation|The offer was reasonable]], so the two can be Separate, Individual Characters. I would appreciate it if you quit hating
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| C.C. Sonichu says: me, accept the brother/sister plan, and Let It Go.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: To [[Sean]]: Your comic strips are only an extension to WHAT YOU THINK are characters who are Underappreciated, when they
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| C.C. Sonichu says: are not, and I have plans for them in future tales. Firstly, [[Metal Sonichu|METAL SONICHU]] is NOT a secondary character; HE will be
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| C.C. Sonichu says: making his return as a MAJOR VILLIAN after [[Sonichu 11|Book 11]] Possessed by the soul of [[Count Graduon]].
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| C.C. Sonichu says: [[Bill]] is still working within [[Giovanni]]'s Laboratory, I am working on a plan on including him in a future episode around
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| C.C. Sonichu says: [[Blake]]. The [[Pokémon#Boulder-Dropping_Whale|WAILORD]] who dropped the rock onto the mother [[Pokémon#Swampert|Swampert]] and [[Yawning Squirtle|the Squirtle who Yawned]] are ONLY Individual
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| C.C. Sonichu says: characters who I originally had NO plans on putting into future stories, so ASSUME that the two were BOTH caught by
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Pok'emon Trainers in Pok'e Balls and now the two are fighting with their trainers in Pok'emon Battles.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: And to all those who I offended about the talk with [[Aspergers]], I apologize. I have nothing AGAINST any individual with
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Aspergers, and I promise to not be mean, but nice, to them and all other individuals.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: So, Please, to everyone, let's move on peacefully and live our lives well.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Thank you.
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=== 15 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: Now then, Another two pages are up; [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]] is OUT OF [[Dark Mirror Hole|THE MIRROR]]. I will answer some Mailbag Questions tonight.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Note though, not ALL Objectionable Letters go to the Reject Pile... more like the Round-Hole Bin.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Also, IGNORE Alec and his Asperchu; EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM, ALL OF THE ADVERTISEMENTS, and ALL things OUTSIDE the Cwcipedia
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| C.C. Sonichu says: And ALL "Quotes" that are on HIS Asperpedia that he labels are from me, UNLESS those EXACT Quotes are on the Cwcipedia...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...I NEVER SAID THOSE "Quotes" AT ALL. Thank you all for your continued loyalty, and Please encourage the Return of all
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| C.C. Sonichu says: who have turned to the Dark Side that is also Currently known as Asperpedia. Thank you again for your Loyalty. :)
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Just a minor update to inform y'all about the old [[spanish]] expression...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Tu nessicitas [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]] para ganar felicidad por vida.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Learn its pronunciation in my latest YouTube video. I will have two more pages up later. Stay Safe and have a good day.
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=== 18 January 2010 ===

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=== 19 January 2010 ===

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=== 21 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...event or function that I highly agree on and I feel we should support; ONLY I will have control to this ONE Ad box...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...should ANYONE other than myself change or tamper with it will see trouble from me personally. Thank you for your...
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=== 22 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: Also, Think about this, WITHIN THE TEN BOOKS At ALL, have I ever gone the way of the SAW movies; Bloody and Gorey? No.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I have not. So unless you have strong constitutions, I highly recommend Staying a Sonichu Fan and leaving Alec for good.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: With the Exception of that [[Gun Comic|One Time]], OUTSIDE of the Comic Pages, I would [[Chris and hypocrisy|Never]] draw [[Sonichu 10|Blood and Gore]] within my pages.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: I promise you that; My Comic Book Pages will NEVER have Blood and Gore in them.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Stay Safe, and have a good day.
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=== 25 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...shortly after making a few more updates; will be creating satisfactory character pages tonight; also, with the...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...recent number of pages, I took a shot at drawing and coloring 5 pages a day; obviously with real life events and...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...whatnot, it was too much to ask, so I will get back into the swing of things with 2 or 3 pages a day like before...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...with the addition of one page at least; I appreciate the paitience of the true and loyal; thank you all very much...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: you can take a lesson at being a True Sonichu Fan from Rad and his group I mentioned in a recent [[YouTube]] video; check...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...out his song he wrote and composed for me; Rad and his group will have their own page on the Cwcipedia as...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...Most Honorable and Loyal Sonichu Fan Group. Stay Safe, and have a good day.
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=== 30 January 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...been unable to log on and update at the past usual times, I have been crashing early in the late PM; May have finally
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...found a routine I can deal with daily; will answer latest mailbag letters tomorrow morning at about 11, my time.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Stay Safe, and please protest against [[Mao]] on the Asperpedia about the overcrowding ads on the Cwcipedia.
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=== 25 February 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...have sent me Birthday Greetings, with the exception of the Asperchu Four: [[Alec]], [[Evan]], [[Mao]] and [[Sean]].
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Sean is the LEAST OFFENSIVE and the WEAKEST of the four; he is a Drug-Headed Loser; read his attorney defense in court.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Happy Christian Love Day to All, and to all Stay Safe.
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=== 02 March 2010 ===

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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...Heart Failure; he will be back out in a couple of days, but I have had a loong, [[stress]]ful day. I only got 4 hours...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...of sleep; I will resume daily updates later this week; Redrawing of the last few pages of [[Sonichu 10|Book 10]] are in the works...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...so Alec, his crew and I can be on peaceful terms, and that we can all move on with better stories that are more...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...cannon to all things Sonichu and Rosechu. I am also working on the pages for Book 11; will upload all that I will...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...have for Book 11 on the Sonichu 10th Anniversary date of [[March 2010|March 17, 2010]]. Currently, daily updates will mostly...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...consist of Mailbag Answerings, Bio Page Creations, Captain's Log Updates, etc. I appreciate your loyalty and...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...patience, and Also, thank yous go out to all who have sent me Positive E-Mails and USMail Letters, cards and presents.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: With opposite feelings towards the few who sent me Offensive, Graphically Inappropriate "Fanart". But I know all about..
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...4Chan's Favorite Rule 18. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Die with less hatred and even less attention from me, period.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: To everyone, I bid you a good and safe day.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ~~RULE18~~
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These postings are a little bit uncharacteristic; it's somewhat out of character for Chris to all of a sudden go "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" and refer to 4chan. However, he's probably just being an idiot as usual. The "Rule 18" stuff most likely actually refers to [[Rule 34]]. He also implies that the trolls would be upset at getting "less hatred and less attention from [him]", [[Chris and his ego|as if they gave a shit if Chris paid any heed to them]].

=== 10 March 2010 ===

In this gigantic update, Chris discusses the fantasy novel that he and [[The Wallflower]] were planning to write, which they ripped off from the mediocre series ''[[Wikipedia:The Guardians of Ga'Hoole|The Guardians of Ga'Hoole]]''.

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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...is the King of the kingdom of Heartland, with a human family; his wife, young son and teenage daughter; Alistair was..
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...originally a Human, but a warlock who despised him, transformed him into an owl. But with the help of his family and
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...new friends from other kingdoms, as well as the individuals he wisely guided, and his Royal Guard and Army, they all..
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...stand together to defend Alistair's Grand Kingdom from the forces of enemy predator animal forces and their clan...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...leaders and the Big Cheese that is the Warlock who changed his majesty. Also, the teenage daughter is a Destined...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...Guardian of the many, many Owls, as a spirit guided by the Goddess of Wisdom, Athena. The son is to be a great...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...strong warrior and leader of the Royal Guard and Army, yet he finds it hard to look up to a father who is an Owl.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Alistair's wife, the Queen, remains loyal to her family and her husband. Her patience is rewarded upon every Full Moon..
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...Night, when Alistair transforms back to his human self, up to the sunrise of the following day, when he transforms...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...back into his Great Horn Owl form. But during those few nights, their majesties live it up to the fullest. WHOO!!!
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| C.C. Sonichu says: So, check out the Foretaste level on the LBP servers (remember to grab and fly to progress); the full version first level
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...will be uploaded after full completion between me and my little lady. Also, Jack is only getting me to make the...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...updates on the Cwcipedia sooner, and that's why he saw fit on putting up the grotesque ads there; He did not have my..
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...approval on that step. But I will be making an update on there very soon, and I am sure Jack will remove those ads...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...shortly after; he is portraying himself as a most rude, impatient individual. jackthethadius@yahoo.com is his e-mail
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| C.C. Sonichu says: feel free to send your complaints about the ads to him if you wish. I have spoken; thank you for your paitience...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: Have a nice day. :)
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| C.C. Sonichu says: One more thing, [[Jack]] had previously agreed to keep the ads Non-Offensive; we had an understanding, and I still have...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...the e-mails with his agreement to that promise.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: And a WORD to Jack Thaddius, [[PS3|I HAVE A REAL LIFE TOO]], DUDE, and I am [[Friend zone|making progress with my Lady Friend]]; your misdeeds...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...have been noted, and you are only HURTING YOURSELF in getting paid back, because the OFFENSIVE ADs are a Kryptonite...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...And IF YOU REALLY WANT ME TO MAKE MY UPLOADS AND UPDATES, SO YOU CAN GET PAID, You would do your best to return the...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...ads to their Non-Offensive State as you had PROMISED beforehand.
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| C.C. Sonichu says: YOU ARE ONLY HURTING YOURSELF BY HURTING ME, THE [[CWCipedia|CWCIPEDIA]], AND MY FANS, JACK. Let Us All Be In Peace, and you will...
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| C.C. Sonichu says: ...be fully paid for your Promise Keeping, and your better Patience. You have your own happiness; let me have mine.
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=== 17 July 2010 ===

After a long period in inactivity, Chris returned to Twitter to demand things for free, beg people to download his shitty [[ModNation]] tracks and lie about drawing more comics.

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== External links ==
* [http://twitter.com/CWCSonichu Chris's Official and Originial Microblog]
* [http://twitter.com/#search?q=-RT%20sonichu Live feed]
==References==
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[[Category:Chris's websites]]

User talk:Cogsdev

2012-04-15T14:45:47Z

4Macie: /* We cant upload this stuff onto this website */

{{protip|COGSDEV SAYS: account creation [for [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]]] totally disabled for now because i'm getting tired of people registering over and over thinking it'll get them approved faster 

if your account was deactivated and you want it back, don't ask me on my cwcki talk page, ask someone in the [[IRC:Contents|irc channel]] 

<center>and sign your god damn edits</center>}}

'''Be sure to read the archives before posting.'''

[[User:Cogsdev/Archive 1]]

==A few things==
I've been helping [[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] with image optimization, and in the process, I've come across a few things.
# Wondering if I could have file deletion privileges, so Fs doesn't have to keep checking my userpage and deleting everything for me?
#Is there an "images marked for deletion" tag or something, so we can discuss and get rid of files that don't serve any purpose here? [[:Image:LoriLopez.jpg|Example]] (Uploaders may dispute/defend the merit of the image if they wish.)
#I'm thinking maybe we should have a limit to the number of 'vanity' images you can upload for (specifically) your userpage.
#Similarly, it seems a lot of people upload their fanart just to share it, but they only put it in [[:Category:Fan art]] and don't link it anywhere else. I'm pretty sure CWCki isn't intended to be a dump-all for CWC-related art. That's what [[ED]] (lol) and [[DeviantArt]] are for. And the torrent.
#Lastly, is it really necessary to keep the userpages of vandals like [[User:Sean Connery]] and [[User:CWCki is Communism]]? Couldn't we just delete them and then block them from re-creation?
--[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 20:14, 6 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Not to be rude, but allow me to answer some of these:
:#I'll think about it. There's already a lot of admins/jerkops and most of them really don't need to do anything, even in a case of vandalism.
:#Just use the regular deletion tag, that works fine.
:#I think most people are good about vanity images. If there's someone who abuses this, an admin or jerkop can say something.
:#The whole idea of the Fan index is to provide a place for people to display their Sonichu/Chris related fan art where people will notice it (as opposed to being drowned in a sea of Sonic recolors on DeviantArt) since PVCC has closed account registration and that's where most people would go to post their fan art. Ideally, we should find ways to incorporate fan art into articles.
:#Eh, it's a good way to shame them. If it gets to be a problem, we'll delete them then.
:Okay, that's all I can think of for now since I need to get some sleep. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:56, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
::*On the note of number 5, I think posting a message saying "BANNED" like we have is sufficient. It's not necessary to make a tribute like [[ED]] or a [http://wiki.patrioticnigras.org/wiki/User:Lolatthefactyouthinkyoucanstopme total Arc De Fail like we do on the Patriotic Nigra Wiki.]--[[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]] [[User:Anon1Guardian|DrSerbia]][[image:datass.jpg|40px]] 05:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

==Resource Leak==
I could be wrong, but it seems that thumbnails aren't auto-generated. Rather, they are stored server-side for use in a page. The problem is, the thumbnails are horrible space wasters.
[[:Image:Soldier of Love and Honesty.png|This image]] is 11.4kb, however, the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/images/thumb/b/b9/Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png/200px-Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png 200px thumbnail] is 77.6 kb! This seems to be caused by the severe artifacting of the white background in the thumbnail. I don't know if there's anything you can do about this, but I thought I'd let you know. The original image could actually be trimmed to a 200px width without losing any of the art itself. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 23:00, 17 October 2009 (CEST)
*yeah, it's an issue with the image library we're using. i don't think there's really anything i can do about that, but i wouldn't worry too much, we should have more than enough space to accommodate thumbnails. i really do wish we could use imagemagick, though, so we wouldn't have this problem... --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 23:13, 17 October 2009 (CEST)

==Destin==
I made a mistake and misread Destin's edits. I have already apologized to him. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 11:13, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

== My Ban ==

First things first, I suppose. I'll say that I do feel kind of bad about how I reacted to your claims yesterday, Ms. Dev. My reaction was unncessarily aggressive, and I certainly could have defended myself in a much more appropriate way. So, I'm sorry. I apologize for my unruly response and my claim that you and your co-mods had failed.

However, I'm not quite finished with what I have to say. I find it kind of asinine that you banned me, and ''then'' you came to my discussion page to apologize to me. While I would like to accept your apology, doing that makes it awful difficult for me to take your apology seriously. I accept FS's, and I would accept Champ's, too, if he gave one (though he doesn't really have much to apologize for), but that's because they didn't go ahead and ban me before apologizing.

That said, I think your reaction to ''my reaction'' is fairly ridiculous, too. You make little sense, and I think you merely banned me because you didn't like being told off. You claim that this Wiki is to document Chris, not mock him? Straight from the article entitled "A Quick Guide to CWCki":

"So, you wish to edit the wiki on the Internet's most beloved and most hated autistic manchild?"

This isn't mocking? After reading that, I clicked the "random page" button twice, and I ended up on the page called "CWCipedia", and found the sentence "CWCipedia also serves as the ultimate test of the use of MediaWiki software and software usability, in which it strives to create a platform that even a autistic manchild/lazy fuck can easily use." After reading something like that, I think it's an exceptional load of crap that you're trying to act like this site is designed to document him. It's designed to have laughs at his expense, and you know damn well that it is.

And why should you care if ''I'' bash him, anyway? After, I'm merely adding to the humor of the site and doing what I'm encouraged to do in the "Quick Guide" section named "POV is the norm" where it says:

"CWCki's guide is to document the Internet phenomena of Chris-chan for troll purposes. Given that the manchild has clearly shown to be racist, homophobic, and just plain perverted, not to mention he proclaims himself to be some sort of celebrity, it's only fair he gets the negative criticism that comes with being a celebrity.

So go ahead, bash him."

As I've pointed out, you don't stop anyone else. In fact, you encourage them. Well, in all fairness, I won't repeat the mistake that you made with me, and, as a result, I won't claim that you wrote that, considering that the history of the page seems to suggest otherwise. But... you don't seem to mind your co-moderators writing it in as a policy for ''your Wiki''.

Anyway, I made a Chris-bashing edit to a page (which no on else deemed irrelevant enough to have it removed), and, after a load of drama, I'm in the wrong for making that edit? That's horse shit. On top of claiming that you're not here to mock him (which I've already refuted, as far as I'm concerned), you say that I should make more relevant edits. That's also horse shit. I have no obligation to you to make edits how ''you'' see fit. You put people under no obligation to edit the things you want editted whom simply read the Wiki and lurk. But, when people come along, and stop lurking for a bit to add to the humor of the site, they automatically become your minions? That's bullshit. I have no more or less obligation to you than the average lurker; you don't pay me, you don't give me ''exceptional'' priveleges, and I don't want you to do either. I just want to have some fun here and enjoy the site, and my enjoyment doesn't seem to have detracted from the goal of the Wiki in any way. CWCki really isn't serious business, and I'm sure you don't need me to explain that to you. So... I fail to accept the idea that my edit was not acceptable by your Wiki's standards. As I said earlier, I think you're just making stuff up to justify banning me for telling you off.

All-in-all, my point is this: on top of the fact that your reasons for banning me seem to be either petty, hyprocritical, or both, you're also not going to stop me from making edits to your Wiki by banning me. I'm not even writing these from my normal residence. Plus, there are plenty of proxies, and there are many of other places I can go to get new IPs and make edits, if I so desire. So... we can come to terms on this, and move on, or we can keep playing the pointless ban game, and, well, I'm done rambling here for now. It's your turn to play.

D-Dizzle, fa reeeeel
--[[User:RevengeOfTheDestinMan|RevengeOfTheDestinMan]] 21:01, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*well, three things to note, then:
# [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_not_ED]]. we aren't here to mock, we're here to let chris speak for himself.
# as you said, it's my wiki. so, i determine what is acceptable and what is not. i didn't have a problem with you, until you decided to disregard my advice, and told me that you'd continue making what are ultimately pointless edits. i don't like making things into serious business, but when you start being deliberately annoying, then we have a problem.
# i won't look around for any new accounts you make on proxies, but i will be banning this one for ban evasion. you were banned for being a faggot. sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here". if you want your first account unbanned, do something to impress champthom and then ask him nicely
so long as you aren't being a vandal or a faggot, we won't have any further problems. now stop acting like you have any rights around here, it's my site and i'll do whatever the fuck i want to do --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 21:52, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*
# You and I both know that this one isn't true. That's why this Wiki exists while CWCipedia exists. In fact, I remember reading about that somewhere on this site, probably on the CWCipedia page, but I don't care enough to wave it in your face, because we all know that this was made so Chris ''wouldn't'' get to always have his say. ...Quit trying to pass this off as some noble effort.
# I disregarded your advice because it was unwarranted. You have no ''logical'' grounds (though powertrip grounds may apply) to expect some random person to edit things pages that you want them to. Also, as I said, you defy logic by only seeming to care when ''I'' make minor edits, and never when anyone else does. Anyway, why the hell would I want to make major contributions when I get bitched at for making meager efforts? And... as for me being deliberately annoying... honestly? I was refuting the accusations of you and two other moderators. Is it really so annoying to point out that you guys made a mistake? Or was it my irritated tone that was so annoying (and that only occurred once)? Now, I can be a real son of a bitch asshole fucktard vandal if I want to be. I won't. I'm not that way, so I'll spare you and your mods the tedium of chasing through articles to fix edits, but you find me (though angrily) telling you that you were wrong in accusing me to be annoying? Yeah, I guess maybe it ''is'' annoying to realize that you made a mistake, and that this person isn't being totally pleasant with you about it, but there are ways to deal with annoyances (especially fairly minor ones) that are far more logical than banning the person responsible. Yes, I know you have the grand power to kick people off of your Wiki, but, again, I ask that you consider this in ''logical'' terms, where banning people for minor annoyances makes for a tense community. Now, since we've already discussed your amount of power, I suppose you can have a tense community if you really want one, but I doubt you really do want that, and you're only making things worse by the way you keep acting about this. I was hoping you wouldn't react like this to my post here, but... you do make things ever so complicated for both of us....
# 'sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here".' As I thought I made clear, I'm sorry about "telling you off". There's no need to bring that up any more. I'm sorry about it. Chiding me more for it doesn't make me any more sorry. I admit that that was my mistake. However, I think you're confused if you think I was doing it to have some fun. When I was talking about having fun here, I was talking about my edit to the video. I don't bitch at people for fun. Well... maybe... but not in this case. And, yes, you're right. I have no rights here. However, I merely suggest that maybe you treat people as though they do have some rights. It's just a suggestion. It makes your place more enjoyable for everyone, though maybe you don't care about that so much. Once I get back to my normal residence, though, I can easily circumvent your system without you ever realizing. And, in spite of all your hateful rage and rights-denying, I can actually become a valid member of your Wiki (if I actually wanted that). Hell, I could become your best friend if I really wanted to. Imagine that! Me and you, total pals! What a tight-knit posse we could make! Oh, the adventures we'd have! Games of kickball at the park. Tossing a frisbee in a field! Raiding caves for secret treasure! Why, we'd be like Bonnie and Clyde (Cash). Really, imagine that! That's how close we could get, without you ever realizing (though... don't take this the wrong way; I worry that I'm starting to sound like Chris). You get my point... well... assuming you understand that these sentences are drenched with sarcasm. So, yes, do as you please, but your efforts to ban me are pointless, and I really think it's very much in your benefit to act a bit more rationally here, because I really don't think that continuing to ban me and chide me is going to make you look better. I mean... banning me for ban evasion of a ban that I didn't deserve in the first place doesn't really make sense. Please, just think about it a bit. G'day, ma'am. --[[User:MoreDestination|MoreDestination]] 22:29, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*Sweet Jesus, why didn't you just let it go. Now you are starting some talkpage war over a privately owned wiki about a retarded manchild cause you disagree about how a misunderstanding was handled. Do you want to edit or not? You either edit here and have fun with us or fuck off. Most people find the process pretty simple: Document Chris while being factual yet snarky. Is that so hard? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:40, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*There's subtle mocking which is what we do, versus outright "DO IT FOR THE LULZ" sort of mocking ED does. CWCki is relied upon moreso than ED because we don't so much go out of our way to be funny, we focus more on documenting and in documenting Chris, we mock him by pointing out his personal flaws and how fucked up he is. It's a different sort of humor.
:Really, people (and I'm addressing this not just to Destin but everyone reading this), if you ever feel angry about something on CWCki, shut off your computer and take a walk or at least play a game or something like that. Then remind yourself you're getting angry over a wiki about an autistic manchild.
:If this is over the "Jew" thing in [[I Love You Kacey]], I'll tell you what I object about it - it is making a misleading transcript to make a nod at someone. If Chris actually said "Jew," that's alright and yes, Chris does have a tendency to slur "you" so it sounds like "jew" because he's attempting to say "you' in a cutsy way. But that's kinda overdoing it. Maybe if Chris actually says Jew, then it'd be an appropriate nod - it's like how there's an Anonymous quote which the link of Anonymous links to our [[User:Anonymous|beloved #1 user]] (seriously, he's the only dude who registered before me but after cogs).
:Words of wisdom - don't mess with cogs, anyone who knows her well like I do would advise similarly. Ultimately, it's her website and she has the final say. I don't always agree with cogs but I do respect her decisions as founder and I generally avoid trying to undo what she does because that would set a bad precedent. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:15, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Okay, I forgot about Fuckingstupid saying he made a mistake. I've made a similar mistake too before about accusing someone for a bad edit. It happens, we're only human. But really, don't freak out - just say "I believe you're mistaken" and show them. Bitching only makes things worse and makes people less sympathetic to your case, even if you are right. In any case, I wanted to air about the Jew thing.
::Likewise, this is in general, let's try and not bite people's head off in letting them know about bad edits. [[Wikipedia:Don't_bite_the_newcomer|This]] is a decent guide at Wikipedia's approach at this sort of thing and I think it's alright. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:22, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:::*Exactly, I made a mistake and now we are all paying for it. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:34, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

*destin, you don't quite seem to understand a simple rule of the internet. i own this website. therefore, any ban i hand out is justified, no matter what you might think. rather than bitching on and on about how it's an unjust ban and evading and so forth, you should instead be accepting the ban as valid and working to correct your behaviour, if you wish to contribute. i've told you already: if you give us something useful, we'll unban you. simple, right? we've discussed this more than enough. any further comments from you will be considered vandalism and reverted. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:05, 25 October 2009 (CET)

:*You should have a ban evasion sub-page so the rest of us don't have to scroll through this tl;dr nonsense lol --15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Request ==
A friend of mine was interesting in joing the PVCC.
So, can he join?--[[User:Gourmetpickle|Gourmetpickle]] 22:27, 26 October 2009 (CET)
*probably not, i don't know who he is --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:59, 26 October 2009 (CET)

== How about all videos in one template? ==

There are 4 or so right now. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:56, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*wha...? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 18:01, 28 October 2009 (CET)

Captain's log, game videos, other vides, music videos, I'm on TV. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:14, 28 October 2009 (CET)

:*Sonijew, that's the big plan I was hinting at before when I responded to your complaint over me splitting off the game videos. Have patience! I'm working on just such a template piece-by-piece! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 18:42, 28 October 2009 (CET)

== Hi, regarding renaming/recategorizing pages ==

[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009]] should be [[Gaybian videos]] and in Clyde Cash videos. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:27, 31 October 2009 (CET)

And the similar thing for [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009]] too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:46, 31 October 2009 (CET)

:*I'll see what I can zap up for ya... :3 [[User:Llort|Llort]] 19:19, 31 October 2009 (CET)

[[Captain's Log, Stardate January 12th, 2009]] is no Captain's Log too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:42, 3 November 2009 (CET)

==Re; player plugin==
[[Image:Awesome micro.png|Awesome]], I'll get to work on gathering clips and putting together a tutorial page. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Cogs ==

Ahoy, I want to finally join PVCC in the interest of gathering more information to help me write moar CWCki, and I figured you were the one to pester about how to go about doing this. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:10, 7 November 2009 (CET)
*Unless account activation just ''happens'' to be totally deactivated which I now notice at the top of the page. FML --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:12, 7 November 2009 (CET)

==Succession template==

The changes that you made to [[Template:Succession]] caused existing instances of the template to stop functioning properly. I tried a couple times to remove what looked to me to be redundant or erroneous code, but I still couldn't get the template working again. Do you think you might be able to fix whatever went haywire? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:56, 10 November 2009 (CET)
*check the template page. previously, the parameters weren't named, it decided which was which based on its number. if you want to save time, i'd recommend using the template in a new template and set the prevlink and nextlink parameters as {{{1}}} and {{{2}}} respectively - that way, you won't have to enter all the parameters every time, just enter {{NewTemplate|Previous Article|Next Article}} and it'll be fine. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 11:20, 10 November 2009 (CET)

==I have a Question==
Is it true you're a girl?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 23:30, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*If you look inside your heart, you will find the answer. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)

I have one too: Who is the Sysop on Cwcipedia? Is it you? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:56, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*Cogs and myself share Sysop privileges but I only intervene when necessary, such as when she posted a card image that only a troll would have had access to, since it came from the leaked [[Scrapbook of Fail]] or when I recommended that Chris do a heart level thing (which a CWCkipedian came up with) or when I moved a message Cogs posted to the top since Chris is a lazy ass who wouldn't see it at the bottom. But otherwise, yeah, it's cogs 99% of the time. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:47, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**I think Champthom and Cogsdev are a pretty brave guy, ethy wade through unfiltered Chris everyday and dosen't afaraid of insanity.--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 03:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**clyde has access too, he's been helping with the mailbag shit --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:13, 21 November 2009 (CET)

== [[My big 18th party (story)]] ==

Could you please remove the (story) from this title? There's no need for it. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 05:15, 3 December 2009 (CET)
*Oh, and please to be moving [[R.L.Stine]] to [[R.L. Stine]]. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 17:22, 3 December 2009 (CET)
:*Mucho grassy ass. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 23:48, 3 December 2009 (CET)

== Sig. Images ==

Do you know if there's a way I can make my little image after my signature automatic without typing the code after every signature? Let me know if you know how or who I should talk to. --[[User:Anon1Guardian|Anon1Guardian]] 23:28, 5 December 2009 (CET)[[Image:anonlaugh.png|50px]]
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Encyclopedia_Dramatica:Help/Markup#Customized_sigs ED has some info on customizing sigs] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 20:20, 6 December 2009 (CET)

== Taxpayermoney ==

You did realize my edit to {{tl|Taxpayermoney}} was to remove a redlinked category, right? I have since made the category, so we both win. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 07:12, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*huh? the purpose of my edit was to remake the whole template in wikitext, you made the edit after i started editing but before i hit submit. also what's up with [[Template:tl]], you link to a template like this:

<nowiki>[[Template:Taxpayermoney]]</nowiki>
i think i added that template because some weird wikipedia template depended on it. oh well, guess i'll leave it there, don't want to break anything
--[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

==Problem with page titles==
Some people are complaining about page titles, like apparently they've suddenly broken. For instance, Pokemon (with the dash over the e) suddenly turned into '''PokÃ©mon.''' Same deal with Regime Fil Aimes. Sounds more like a technical MediaWiki deal, any idea what's going on? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:32, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*probably a database error. i imagine it has something to do with unicode, so maybe it should be policy to only use ordinary characters(i.e., no accents) in page titles? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:29, 11 December 2009 (CET)
**If that's going to be a problem, be sure to change [[Naïve]] --[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 07:20, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*Since this is old news, I removed the brackets from the word 'PokÃ©mon,' to get it off the "Wanted Pages" list. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 23:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== Proofreading ==

Any chance we could organize some sort of proofreading drive? I've noticed far too many typos and grammatical errors in the articles, not to mention bad wiki formatting. (For instance, the proper way to bold the text at the start of an article is <nowiki>'''like this'''</nowiki>, but most articles have it <nowiki>[[like this]]</nowiki> instead.) [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 08:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*With authority granted to me by my admin powers, I hereby dub you Head Grammar Nazi in charge of The Final Solution to addressing the grammar problem on CWCki. [[:CWCki:Operation Grammatification]] is yours to do with as you will to organize a proofreading drive. You have also been cleared for Super High Priority on the [[:CWCki:Priority Listing|priority list]].

:Also, what's the dillio with the bolding? I mean, if you're referring to the article name, you can do that because 1) it's the article itself and 2) it saves a few bits because it takes one less character to do it and 3) it works. Perhaps our resident [[User:Wwwwolf|wiki <strike>pedo</strike> wizard]] can clear it up. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

:*Proofreading drive?! To me, that's virtually pornographic. ''Definitely'' fap-worthy. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 08:48, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*I created [[CWCki:Operation Grammatification]]. Care to help me shill it? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:17, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*P.S. Do I need to be a jerkop to have pagemove rights? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:32, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:**I will gladly assist you, good sir. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 21:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*can people please stop using html for tables? wiki tables exist for a reason, please [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table learn to use them] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:18, 12 December 2009 (CET)

== Re: PVCC logo ==

Here's a link to the PVCC logo in illustrator format.[http://www.4shared.com/file/137811560/b1a824eb/PVCClogosmall.html] It's free use(libre) if that wasn't already implied, sorry for taking so long to respond, har. Drop me a message if you want anything else vectorized or whatever. --[[User:Ror|Ror]] 19:52, 15 December 2009 (CET)

==Steam==
Do you manage the Steam PVCC user group, and if so, are there any requirements to join? --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 12:43, 27 December 2009 (CET)

==Emails sent to chris.==
If you are the sysop of cwcipedia, please include my newest email sent to him, on Jan 7. The text can be found on my user page.

==Asperpedia Ad for intro image==
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3276/asperpediaad.jpg
Idea:
1. Replace "introduction image"
2. Protect image so can't be replaced or reuploaded
3. Profit
[[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

==Special:ListFiles==
Can you take a look at [[Special:ListFiles]]? The page loads the list of files, but the search function is broken... it worked on the 110MB CWCki, and was really useful. Thanks in advance =) --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 04:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
*works fine for me, but i haven't tested it much. what exactly was the problem? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 15:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**Compare these: [http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AListFiles New CWCki] and [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php/Special:Imagelist?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AImagelist Old CWCki]. The same files exist on both sites, but one search is pulling up all file names that include the characters "Schu" while the other only pulls up one. And weirdly it's picking the one where the characters exist in the middle of the name, rather than the beginning. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 03:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
***that is pretty weird... it doesn't seem to recognise the first character of a search. i'll look this up but i'm not sure what i can do to fix it. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== My videos ==

I'm not sure if you'll want these or not; but if you're recording everything Chris dose then you may want the videos I've posted on my user page.

If not you should check 'em out anyway... I find it funny how Chris thinks every voice he can do is better than ours.

http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/User:Jester

==Implement Database CGI for listing Chris's Videos?==
I have come under the impression that the [[List of Videos|list of Chris's video ]] is starting to become crowded, and that it's only going to become worse. Moreover, I think that it would be nice if we can have a script that could sort his videos by his date, his performance type, etc.

So I thought that it would be nice if we use a CGI program that could list/sort his videos.

I have knowledge with websites, and I have dealt with CGI programs before. Japanese websites are the best for finding a free CGI database program, which I am able to translate so that it would fit into the CWCki. (if time permits, of course)

But for now, do you agree with this idea?
--[[User:Shogun|Shogun]] 00:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*i thought that's what [[Table of Videos]] was for --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 13:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

==Repeat PVCC Registration Attempts==

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I think one reason behind this is because the page has no prompt confirming when you've successfully submitted the request (At least I didn't get one). I had a lot of trouble with the confirmation code and I had no idea I'd got it right until it told me that the name was already in use. I used the same name I used on here, so I figured [[Liquid Chris|someone else]] had taken it. I started trying another name and figured I was just screwing up the confirmation code again until it told me that the other name had been taken. I finally got the hint after that.

TL;DR: I think a prompt confirming that a new account is awaiting confirmation would cut down the repeat registrations. [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 15:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
*it's supposed to tell you that your account has been submitted and is awaiting approval. if it isn't, then that's probably the result of errors left over from the move from 110mb. i might just disable registrations entirely and manually make accounts for people if that's the case, since it'll be kind of hard to fix --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

*Yeah, I was registering an account last night, and I accidentally set up 2 profiles! You need to fix that shit Cogs, and undo my permaban.
--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 22:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

** Honestly when I tried to register, and forgive me if I registerd more than once, I kept getting a message declaring that I had fucked up the confirmation code, hopefully it's just my inability to figure out the PVCC's conifrmations code style.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 4:56, 7 March 2010 (EST)

it's broken, and i can't be arsed fixing it because it's not like i approve new accounts anyway --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 12:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

* Yeah that is true seeing as if you did PVCC would overflow with ED users posting "such marvelous gems of threads" such as "Ivy wuz a blowup doll lol" or some stupid shit lke that.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 8:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I tried to register, but no response. In the case that you might manually authorise me (or not), I'd like to join PVCC because I've thought up some good trolling schemes and I'd like to put them in to action. If you'd like to hear my ideas or otherwise want to talk to me further, respond on my talk page. [[User:Joe Da Moo|Joe Da Moo]] 21:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just tried registering a little while ago and I got a 500 error or something with no confirmation e-mail. Do you think you could confirm my account, please? I assure you I'm not an ED fag. --[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]] 07:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Color coding and stuff ==

Two questions:
# I'm trying to reformat the IRC chats, and that includes color coding. What color do you want to be?
# I'd kinda like to sign up for the PVCC. Is it even worth trying?
Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, i don't think there's any particular rules regards color coding, and i don't mind so long as it's easily readable. also, go ahead and sign up for PVCC, we kind of need some new users anyway. just uh, keep in mind i might forget to approve you, and only sign up once(even if it looks like the attempt failed) --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**I think I signed up twice because I fucked up the Captcha. My bad. :( --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Community Portal rename=%3D

Just curious, is it possible to rename Community Portal? I mean, it's a fine name but maybe we should give it something more CWC related? We could solicit some feedback but first I'm wondering if it's possible. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, that's the default name mediawiki gives it. i was thinking we could do what most other wikis do, and have the community portal be... well, a portal, to other discussion pages about various topics. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== A small question ==

I want to know, is it possible to add a new "Chris and..." page regarding his lack of knowledge about science or "biologee" at least? It could include "recycling", and how the Sonichu's and Rosechu's biology is not something that could live in any world real or pokemon without becoming extinct in less than 100 years.

P.S. Sorry if it comes out awkward. this is my first post and i'm still not completely used to the format.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== PVCC Registration ==

Excuse my bothering you via the CWCki but I submitted a registration for the PVCC and I'm just posting here to let you know it's me and not some troll. I was mainly interested in just finding and updating some article citations on the CWCki using posts from the PVCC - some of which currently link to the old PVCC forum. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I have also submitted a registration so that I can start making good edits to this wki, but I also understand that in the past you've grown to hate a few new members here or there, so I understand if I'm not approved.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 20:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Yet another person who registered in vain. On "CWCki is" it says the CWCki is not a forum. The PVCC should be the forum for CWCkians (I refuse to use the term CWCkipedians). #sonichu is not a forum but a chat room, and /cwc/ seems to be regarded as a lesser community from what I gathered. Is there some sort of elitism in keeping the PVCC locked away from anyone new? --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 05:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*it's not like there's anything worth joining for, it's barely about chris anymore. the reason why nobody new is allowed in is because they wouldn't fit in and it's a pain to deal with people making accounts all the time that will never be approved. regards the cwcki having some sort of forum, i guess the community portal should really be sorted into more of a... well, portal. your edit has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. thank you for your time and efforts. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 00:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*So it's now all in-jokes and such now? Makes me even sadder to be a n00b, then. I'm always late to anything good. Might as well make whatever Chris-related stuff there freely viewable, then, and then have private sub-forums for the in-jokes. As Anonymax said, some citations link to the PVCC.

Also, the Community Portal seems like a CWCki-wide version of the discussion pages, which are meant to be strictly for improving the content of the page. I was looking for a place to intelligently (read: without clowns screaming "Dig up Patti!" and "JULAY!") discuss Chris. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 02:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==Contacting the Wallflower==
In light of Chris dropping her full name on the Cwcipedia, do you think it'd be a good idea to let the Wallflower know that Chris is putting information up on her? It looks like he may even make a full page dedicated to her. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==Wallflower Policy==

Hi Cogs. Since [[user:Ronichu|newfags]] and [[user:Ronichu|retards]] keep constantly asking about it, I've drafted a section which I've termed "The Wallflower Policy". Can you approve, ammend or reject it for the main Wallflower page? It's at [[Talk:The_Wallflower#Stating CWCki Policy]].

== What is your problem? ==
What are you doing Cogs? What have you got against me? I don't like Chris or Sonichu beyond anyone else here, I don't do any of the furry sex stuff that Sonichu and the others do, and I haven't taken any of this twitter crap onto the CWCki. All I do is fuck around a few minutes day making jokes about killing Sonichu's kids. Why is this necessary? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
* you fly with the crows, you get tarred with the same brush. or however that saying goes. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
**Is there anything I can do to get that removed? I don't want to cause a big argument on here and I don't want to be involved in the whole Twitter thing if its going to cause all this. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
***Yeah, I'm with Edward. Anything that can get us started on the road to redemption? My Twitter accounts have been dead for 2 days now (since YawningSquirtleRedux warned me to stay away from them), and my Twitter days are over and done with. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 17:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect problem. ==

I can't access any cogsdev.org sites from my home internet. It says there's some sort of redirect problem. Is there anything you can do to fix this?

Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*your IP probably got blocked for spamming requests. wait for your IP to change, and in future, don't use firefox --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*It's not Firefox to blame. I was using Chrome before I had problems. I suspect it's a rare server error and the page which handles the error message for it causes the large amount of requests. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Well it's working now. The firefox message mentioned looping requests, but in the future I can use Chrome, if you think that'll help.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::*The redirect loop is probably how the server handles blocks. I'm still unsure as to why there is a mass of requests being sent to the server - apparently before we encounter the redirect loop. I ended up blocked due to request spam - and I wasn't using Firefox. --01:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== sorry about rolling back that edit ==

chrome decided it didn't want to redraw itself anymore --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== I beg forgiveness ==

I will pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I understand what I must not do. This will carry over into future operations and circumstances. What can I do to prove my loyalty to the motherland?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*quit bein a fag --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 08:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
**understood.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== About deleting that template ==

I know what I did really lacked good judgment and I apologize for acting like an idiot. I should have waited for an admin's opinion before doing anything. If you give me back my jerkop status, I can guarantee such thing will not happen again. --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 15:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
* ask champthom in a week or so, tell him i said you could have your jerkop status back then --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:*OK, thanks.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 16:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

==My case for keeping Afternoon around==
I hate to bother you, but I think it's only fair that you hear my defense of ''Afternoon'' before it gets axed. I really don't think it fits any of the criteria you define as bad fanworks. It's not my attempt at rewriting ''Sonichu''; I don't retread any of the plot. Kitty isn't an original character. I know that she acts wildly out of her original characterization in my story, but that's true of most fanwork. Even the great ''Sonichu is Dead'' had the title character behaving completely different from how Chris writes him. And Kitty isn't my fursona; I'm not a furry and I have no fursona. I know I've semi-jokingly described her as a bit of a Sue in past, but I just meant that she was fun to write. ''Afternoon'' isn't some kind of power fantasy; it's just about torturing Chris's least popular characters for the amusement of the readers. If you still think it's not relevant to the wiki or that Chris's own role in it isn't big enough, I'll respect your decision and take the thing elsewhere. I just wanted you to hear my side of the story. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==I need something answered...==
Chris has been very quite lately. So I want to do something to piss him off and get him back on [[Youtube]]. Something so original, not even the [[Clyde Cash|King of Trolling]] himself could of thought up. So here is the big question: What hasn't any troll done or would think of doing that would effect Chris to the point of yelling at a camera?

[[User:Galaxyguy159|GalaxyGuy159]]
*First of all, sign your posts properly. It's 4 tildes (~) after your post. Secondly, this is not a trolling site. This is a site to document Chris' actions. If you want a trolling base, go elsewhere. Finally, if there were something someone thought of to get Chris back, they would either A: Execute the plan him/herself, B: Give the plan to a more experienced troll, or C: Give the plan to a trusted FA. Any way you look at it, the plan wouldn't be put on a wiki and it wouldn't be given to an inexperienced member, which includes not only you, but almost everyone on this wiki (e.g. me). [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 18:35, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:*The above is FACT. Also, the best trolls don't plan on trolling. Asperchu was just a couple of oneoffs, for instance, and Liquid never imagined things would get as big as they did. If you want my tip, TRY things. People will call you a faggot, but that's because until something works all plans SOUND retarded because nobody aside from Chris would ever fall for them. So, in short, DO IT FAGGOT, don't be afraid to try things but don't fuck with other trolls plans, and lurk more. And... Yeah. This isn't a trolling place, only for documenting, so take your questions elsewhere in the future. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:50, 2 August 2010 (PDT)

== Favicon ==

Cogs, any way we could get a favicon for the CWCki? Like, maybe a brown and yellow Pokeball? We can solicit suggestions from users, but it'd help to ask you first if that's something you could do.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:54, 23 August 2010 (PDT)

== CWCipedia archive ==

*As I am dealing with the 110mb external links, I found that this archived version of CWCipedia includes unreverted vandalism on March, such as those on the [http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_51 mailbag] pages, is it supposed to be so? Regards, [[User:Nechita|Nechita]] 02:48, 24 August 2010 (PDT)

== PVCC registration ==

I know that many people are being annoying by reregistering, but you really shouldn't completely disable registration, as there are some people (including me) that would be a good addition to the forum that are shut out by this. Not sure if the forum software allows for this, but maybe you could disable registering more than once per person (possibly by ip adress and/or cookies?) [[User:Sodahollic|Sodahollic]] 14:40, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
*Registration of accounts is done on a basis of time spent hanging around IRC and your behavior there, contribution to the CWCki, or at the discretion of the forum admins. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 16:16, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== What? ==

My parents are divorced..so yeah, I live in ND some of the time and VA the rest...though it is true that I no longer work at Wal-Mart (as of about 3 weeks ago).
--[[User:Kitsune|Kitsune]] 13:41, 23 December 2010 (PST)

==Denouncing past faggotry==

Hello Cogs, long time no see. I just wanted to apologize for this past drama involving Legi0n and other sites I would rather not get into. I've had some time away from the CWCki to rethink my poor choices in judgement, and I just wanted to say that I'm willing to get off to a fresh start to benefit this site, as well as its users. I cannot promise anything to you, but the most I can do is try so that nothing like what I caused in the past ever happens again. I am sincerely sorry, and I will do my best to stay out of everyone's way in the future. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 09:33, 10 February 2011 (PST)
*Cogs has had some "away time" too. Three edits since September, and the last one was a month ago. Champ's the only active admin. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(Talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|(Contributions)]] 09:37, 10 February 2011 (PST)

==I'm not sure if I can do this but==

I'd like to contest the blocks of Ror and Pfargtl9000 (sorry, Goatselover, but you don't do much) on the grounds that Ror has a Gold Star Bounty and a Requested Template Award (both of which prove that he's useful and is here to contribute) and because Pfargtl9000 has nearly 2,500 edits spanning over a year. They both are useful to the wiki and I think blocking them for a year for holding an opinion/misconception (especially when the wiki is already sieving veteran editors) is counterproductive. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 10:28, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* this wiki is overmaintained, i don't really care --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:53, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

==ThePCAssassins Prank Calls Page==
Other than the obvious exploitation of CWC for eFame is there any reason why the prank calls shouldn't be recorded here? Sure, most of the information is irrelevant or we already know about the so called insights Bob gives but I'm sure eventually something good might come of it. Probably. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 05:51, 19 May 2011 (PDT)
* no [[User:Sully|Sully]] 20:12, 19 May 2011 (PDT)

== Publishing a book about Chris Chan ==

I was wondering if you would be interested in possibly working together in publishing a book about Chris Chan, based on content from this website. I am part of a small publishing company. I saw the public domain status of this website, though writing a book is still something I would want to be a joint effort. If this website accepts donations, I could donate part of any money I receive, though I can't really negotiate anything formal.

Please let me know what you think. I think a book about Chris Chan would be pretty epic.

:[[User:Publisher|Publisher]] 08:52, 17 November 2011 (PST)
*She's going to say no. Don't even bother. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:25, 18 November 2011 (PST)

==PS3 Browsing==

I mainly browse this wiki on a PS3 (im not chris, honest) but to view pages you must select 'printable version' as 2 thick blocks cover the pages text/videos, some other wikis do this but ED doesnt and nor does TOW, could you by any chance look into sorting this out, ta very much, Mr MellowColo(u)r

== We cant upload this stuff onto this website ==

Because it has now become clear that chris himself regularly checks up on the cwcki for updates, so whenever we upload anything new about him, chris WILL realise that people as far as singapore have found out about his private information.
So in order to keep new comic pages and updates coming, we cant upload them onto the CWCki
:Ok, first things; sign your post. There's a little button for it, or it's jutst -- with [[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:45, 15 April 2012 (PDT) right after (no spaces). I know no one likes to read the rules and policies stuff, but seriously, this one is obvious. Second thing: do you honestly think Chris is working on the comics anymore?? If you do, you obviously do not know Chris at all... Third: If you posted this just so Chris will see it (for whatever reason you want him to see it) and think it will do anything... You obviously do not know Chris at all. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:45, 15 April 2012 (PDT)

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==To do==
*add references to the phrase "virgin with rage" in Chris's works
*note how he associates violence with sex (he's a "virgin with rage", sex is described in "gory" details, etc.)
*Also how he masturbates or how he drew that picture of Megan to quell violent urges so he doesn't "fly off the handle." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:12, 8 June 2009 (CEST)
*Another thing Chris stole, that line about hormones slam banging is from the first episode of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Good job Chris, you can't even be a horny creep without stealing something. [[User:Admiral Klank|Admiral Klank]] 20:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==Views on virginity==
In my opinion, the section could be expanded with statements Chris made about virginity in general and the properties he connects with losing one's virginity.
*He stated several times that just about everyone else loses their virginity in their teens, seemingly unaware of reality and statitics regarding this, for example that 4% of Americans will die a virgin or that 10% of males leaving higher education are still virgins, not to mention about 1 in 3 18-year olds of both sex. He might be simply unaware of this, ignore statistics in his self-centered view or because of the implication that he most likely will be one of the 4%(unless he goes to a prostitute).
*This page could also be linked to the one where he describes his fantasy-scenario of losing it to PandaHalo.
*He also implies that experiencing the "Power of Sex" will instantly transform his character, as he justifies his poor social skills regarding chatting up woman with "How should I know, I'm a Virgin" in the VivitheG-chat. There are probably more references of this kind out there.
*He probably also thinks that it would prove him being hetero. Some people on the autism spectrum experience difficulties identyfying their gender preferences unless they had some kind of physical evidence (I just read of a case of a sexually deviant autist who was sexually assaulted by an older man he regarded as a father figure and therefore concluded he had to be bisexual).
Actually, that would also explain his staunt view on male homosexuality to some extent, because he can not be entirely sure of his sexual identity unless there is something to "prove" it, also evidenced by his "I'm heterosexual" video.
I just want to know your opinions before including and referency stuff.[[User:Miela|Miela]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== On Chris touching Megan ==

There are a couple of needed citations about which specific parts of Megan's anatomy Chris inappropriately touched. It is entirely possible that Chris touched both Megan's hair and Megan's shoulder without her consent.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's hair is [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_annoyed_and_creeped_out|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''The way you went off on Nina because she patted me on the head was very rude and uncalled for. Just because someone else has made physical contact with me doesn't give you the authority to do so''". It could be assumed from this that Chris, at some point, tried to mimic Nina by patting Megan on the head.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's shoulders is [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Pinned_against_the_wall|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''So PLEASE don't touch me anymore ok? I don't like it! And last wed you really had me pinned against the wall''". What comes to mind when thinking about someone pinning someone else against a wall is for the first person to put his hands in the other person's shoulder area. However, given Chris's weight and clumsiness, it can be argued that he pinned her without the need of using his hands.

The notion of touching her shoulders can also be supported by Lucas' [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_and_Megan|response]]: "''He was constantly putting his arm around her and shit and it got to the point where she would take refuge in the midst of our group of bros''". Given the relative height between Megan and Chris it is possible that he put his arm around her and rested his hand on her shoulder. Once again, given Chris's peculiar body language and general clumsiness this can't be taken as fact.

So, even thought it is quite probable that Chris touched Megan in those specific spots, it can't be demonstrated as fact given the sources available. I would recommend to rephrase the sentence to a more general description of his inappropriate touching and add Chris's [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Don.27t_kiss_me.2C_bro|attempt to kiss Megan]]. --[[User:Galford|Galford]] 18:32, 12 January 2012 (PST)

* O.o --[[User:Shefap2|Shefap2]] 15:59, 13 January 2012 (PST)

==Virgin No More?==

Is there any way we can confirm this? I mean, on the one hand, ''holy shit''. On the other, it's something so farfetched and shocking that it just doesn't seem possible! I mean, yes, we got a Facebook page, but that could easily be faked. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 10:13, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this was just another one of Chris' plans to stop the trolls, hoping that we'll stop picking on him once he's a true and honest non virgin. I mean really
what are the chances of Chris getting laid and by a Cherokee at that; the thing he's been sperging over since god knows when? --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 20:29, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:If it was part of Chris' plan to stop the trolls, he'd have told the trolls. Really, the reason he did it was because he thought he was going to die and he didn't want to die a virgin. Now, really, Chris is terrible at phrasing and a hooker is going to feed him bullshit stories. She's probably not actually a Cherokee. Chris /believes/ she was a Cherokee. There's a big difference between the two. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:19, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

The update regarding his "partner" informing him of how good his "large" penis felt should be an immediate red flag. --[[User:ItLurksInTheWalls|ItLurksInTheWalls]] 20:43, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
: According to some links to Cogsdev's twitter... Chris paid a prostitute about $250 to have sex with him (according to Cogsdev's sources/contacts). If Cogsdev says it's true... it's probably true...SO, that leaves us with the probably that Chris has finally lost his virginity... but it was to a prostitute, and I'm pretty sure that's cheating.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

A $250 hooker? Jeez, it must have been a mess down there.

Note how he actually said dick instead of duck. Im calling fake.
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 10:41, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

:He said dick in his famous [[CWC%27s_Second_Message#Transcript]]. Plus, the screencap isn't fake, if that's what you're saying. I took it myself. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 10:51, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

== It may have been a hack ==

Apparently 45 minutes ago Chris Chan via his PS Vita released a statement on how trolls said he bought a hooker.

http://789chan.org/cwc/src/133429340253.png

I completely agree with this. The fact that Chris is so "It put the last guy to shame" and especially the "We hit it off and exchanged numbers". Oh brother, I'm amazed he didn't resort to the "We were pre-ordering LittleBigPlanet" story yet again, a la Chloe.

In a week, no doubt this will be just another bogus lie thought up by Chris. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:34, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

*It was not a lie. When Chris lied about Chloe, he was lying to all of his trolls. Why would he lie to his circle of friends? Furthermore, Cogs confirms that the screencaps uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:40, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Chris has no real friends and he knows the trolls keep up with his Facebook. Either way, I'll believe it when I see more solid proof, right now it's just all speculation.

Not like it matters anyway; any idiot can go hire a whore; though my congrats that he obviously found one absolutely dedicated to her job, if bought all that BS she was spouting. And even touching Chris, let alone fucking him; she should get a medal. Though, with this new screencap with him screaming that it wasn't a prostitute, then sorry, that screams BS to me.

So Chris just met a random stranger who wanted to fuck him and they "hit it off". Uh huh, sure. I'm more willing to believe the hooker story, not a normal girl; at least not one without severe metal retardation. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:46, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*Please read my post again. I said all images uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit. By that, I mean only the initial announcement and Chris's witch hunt through his friends list are real. The third one was deleted after being uploaded, as it is fake. Furthermore, Cogs has confirmed that everything Jimmy uploaded is legit. This should be all the proof you need. Chris did in fact purchase a hooker and have sex. The only thing you should speculate about is whether or not he shat himself in the process.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:53, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm still wary, sorry. Even these apparent official screencaps (on the page) have numerous contradictory claims or red flags.
"We did it in her room"
Chris actually traveled to meet a woman? Unlikely. Do hookers use their own private rooms for sex? Don't think so.

And this "We hit it off and exchanged numbers" just bugs the hell out of me. Like I said, he either got the best hooker in the business (ie, one who knows how to lie like a pro to all her loser clients) or it wasn't a hooker. And I'm sorry, but if it wasn't a hooker, I can't believe it. I need more solid proof than just "Cogs confirmed it." Doesn't that mean all they confirmed is that Chris actually wrote those? Not the fact that he's lying? You know... I need more proof, which will come in a few days. Until them, all I'm saying is, I'm highly skeptical about it.

A prostitute, I can believe, but there's so many contradictory statements that don't say prostitute, so we'll see... --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 09:02, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*There's a difference between "travel out of state"(every fake girlfriend ever) and "drive for 20 minutes to an arbitrary location"(hookers). For one, Chris can sneak out and visit a hooker without Barb noticing anything off. Hookers do not own their own private rooms, yes, but remember that Chris is terrible at phrasing things. By "her room" he probably means "the hotel room we arranged to meet at". Simple. And it really isn't "pro" lying to tell a delusional fat nerd that his deformed penis isn't horrible. If anything it's standard business practice as far as hookers are concerned. Cogs confirming it should be all the proof you need. Please point out any other "contradictory" statements, because I don't see any.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:11, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

* That looks like a fake screenshot to me. I know that updates on Facebook don't usually have an indent where "45 minutes ago" is. Plus, the text looks different from the other screenshots. Personally, if Chris really did say that, it's yet another lie, he already tried to get a prostitute before when she hung up on him. And why would Chris take offense to trolls saying that he lost his virginity, anyway? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 15:53, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

* Well, now we know it's fake, Chris is bragging about it on Facebook. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 07:39, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

== Why are we assuming that Chris is telling the truth? ==

He has lied about his first sexual encounter before. Remember "Chloe?" --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 08:57, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

If you read above, Cogs tweeted that he bought a hooker.

When did he ever say that he had sex with Chloe? All I remember is Chris claiming that they had a date at Taco Bell and "kissed deeply", that's it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:04, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, he's never lied about having sex. Plus, like I've said before, this event wasn't for other people. Chris had sex because he didn't want to die a virgin. Chris thought he was going to die in jail so he thought he was going to die very soon. So he had to lose his virginity. It actually happened.

Now, although it actually happened, I'm not claiming that 100% of Chris' post is accurate. A hooker is going to tell him bullshit. Also he's really shitty at describing things. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:23, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
: He says that Chloe WAS his "Virgin-Taker"... I guess people assumed that this meant he said he had sex. I'm kinda thinking, that with Chris being as shitty at describing things as he is, meant that she was going to be, what we would consider, "The One". Though, I'm still not sure if he had sex. If he did... well she wasn't free and this woman (or man...) was dedicated to her job...--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:42, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
:: Oh, right, I forgot about that. Heh, and a lot of people keep saying that the hooker really earned whatever Chris paid or whatever because of how gross Chris is. I don't think people realize that hookers have to deal with johns a lot worse than Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 10:56, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
::: I'm not in on that twitter stuff, so I don't know where to find these updates. But what about the image linked to here? Chris is clearly upset at the notion of people claiming he is no longer a virgin. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 17:48, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

= Does Barb know about this? =

I know, stupid question. I'm just curious to know what'll happen in Barb finds out. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 08:03, 14 April 2012 (PDT)
:I'm assuming she doesn't know or doesn't care. 1) She has more stuff to worry about right now 2) I believe Chris answers the home phone now that Mr. Chandler is gone 3) Chris gets the mail and has admitted that he sometimes takes mail addressed to his parents. So, it'd be hard for someone to tell her and if they did... well I don't think she'll care that her son finally had sex. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:39, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Virgin with rage

2012-04-13T17:42:08Z

4Macie: /* Why are we assuming that Chris is telling the truth? */

==To do==
*add references to the phrase "virgin with rage" in Chris's works
*note how he associates violence with sex (he's a "virgin with rage", sex is described in "gory" details, etc.)
*Also how he masturbates or how he drew that picture of Megan to quell violent urges so he doesn't "fly off the handle." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:12, 8 June 2009 (CEST)
*Another thing Chris stole, that line about hormones slam banging is from the first episode of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Good job Chris, you can't even be a horny creep without stealing something. [[User:Admiral Klank|Admiral Klank]] 20:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==Views on virginity==
In my opinion, the section could be expanded with statements Chris made about virginity in general and the properties he connects with losing one's virginity.
*He stated several times that just about everyone else loses their virginity in their teens, seemingly unaware of reality and statitics regarding this, for example that 4% of Americans will die a virgin or that 10% of males leaving higher education are still virgins, not to mention about 1 in 3 18-year olds of both sex. He might be simply unaware of this, ignore statistics in his self-centered view or because of the implication that he most likely will be one of the 4%(unless he goes to a prostitute).
*This page could also be linked to the one where he describes his fantasy-scenario of losing it to PandaHalo.
*He also implies that experiencing the "Power of Sex" will instantly transform his character, as he justifies his poor social skills regarding chatting up woman with "How should I know, I'm a Virgin" in the VivitheG-chat. There are probably more references of this kind out there.
*He probably also thinks that it would prove him being hetero. Some people on the autism spectrum experience difficulties identyfying their gender preferences unless they had some kind of physical evidence (I just read of a case of a sexually deviant autist who was sexually assaulted by an older man he regarded as a father figure and therefore concluded he had to be bisexual).
Actually, that would also explain his staunt view on male homosexuality to some extent, because he can not be entirely sure of his sexual identity unless there is something to "prove" it, also evidenced by his "I'm heterosexual" video.
I just want to know your opinions before including and referency stuff.[[User:Miela|Miela]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== On Chris touching Megan ==

There are a couple of needed citations about which specific parts of Megan's anatomy Chris inappropriately touched. It is entirely possible that Chris touched both Megan's hair and Megan's shoulder without her consent.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's hair is [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_annoyed_and_creeped_out|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''The way you went off on Nina because she patted me on the head was very rude and uncalled for. Just because someone else has made physical contact with me doesn't give you the authority to do so''". It could be assumed from this that Chris, at some point, tried to mimic Nina by patting Megan on the head.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's shoulders is [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Pinned_against_the_wall|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''So PLEASE don't touch me anymore ok? I don't like it! And last wed you really had me pinned against the wall''". What comes to mind when thinking about someone pinning someone else against a wall is for the first person to put his hands in the other person's shoulder area. However, given Chris's weight and clumsiness, it can be argued that he pinned her without the need of using his hands.

The notion of touching her shoulders can also be supported by Lucas' [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_and_Megan|response]]: "''He was constantly putting his arm around her and shit and it got to the point where she would take refuge in the midst of our group of bros''". Given the relative height between Megan and Chris it is possible that he put his arm around her and rested his hand on her shoulder. Once again, given Chris's peculiar body language and general clumsiness this can't be taken as fact.

So, even thought it is quite probable that Chris touched Megan in those specific spots, it can't be demonstrated as fact given the sources available. I would recommend to rephrase the sentence to a more general description of his inappropriate touching and add Chris's [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Don.27t_kiss_me.2C_bro|attempt to kiss Megan]]. --[[User:Galford|Galford]] 18:32, 12 January 2012 (PST)

* O.o --[[User:Shefap2|Shefap2]] 15:59, 13 January 2012 (PST)

==Virgin No More?==

Is there any way we can confirm this? I mean, on the one hand, ''holy shit''. On the other, it's something so farfetched and shocking that it just doesn't seem possible! I mean, yes, we got a Facebook page, but that could easily be faked. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 10:13, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this was just another one of Chris' plans to stop the trolls, hoping that we'll stop picking on him once he's a true and honest non virgin. I mean really
what are the chances of Chris getting laid and by a Cherokee at that; the thing he's been sperging over since god knows when? --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 20:29, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:If it was part of Chris' plan to stop the trolls, he'd have told the trolls. Really, the reason he did it was because he thought he was going to die and he didn't want to die a virgin. Now, really, Chris is terrible at phrasing and a hooker is going to feed him bullshit stories. She's probably not actually a Cherokee. Chris /believes/ she was a Cherokee. There's a big difference between the two. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:19, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

The update regarding his "partner" informing him of how good his "large" penis felt should be an immediate red flag. --[[User:ItLurksInTheWalls|ItLurksInTheWalls]] 20:43, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
: According to some links to Cogsdev's twitter... Chris paid a prostitute about $250 to have sex with him (according to Cogsdev's sources/contacts). If Cogsdev says it's true... it's probably true...SO, that leaves us with the probably that Chris has finally lost his virginity... but it was to a prostitute, and I'm pretty sure that's cheating.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

A $250 hooker? Jeez, it must have been a mess down there.

Note how he actually said dick instead of duck. Im calling fake.
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 10:41, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

== It may have been a hack ==

Apparently 45 minutes ago Chris Chan via his PS Vita released a statement on how trolls said he bought a hooker.

http://789chan.org/cwc/src/133429340253.png

I completely agree with this. The fact that Chris is so "It put the last guy to shame" and especially the "We hit it off and exchanged numbers". Oh brother, I'm amazed he didn't resort to the "We were pre-ordering LittleBigPlanet" story yet again, a la Chloe.

In a week, no doubt this will be just another bogus lie thought up by Chris. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:34, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

*It was not a lie. When Chris lied about Chloe, he was lying to all of his trolls. Why would he lie to his circle of friends? Furthermore, Cogs confirms that the screencaps uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:40, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Chris has no real friends and he knows the trolls keep up with his Facebook. Either way, I'll believe it when I see more solid proof, right now it's just all speculation.

Not like it matters anyway; any idiot can go hire a whore; though my congrats that he obviously found one absolutely dedicated to her job, if bought all that BS she was spouting. And even touching Chris, let alone fucking him; she should get a medal. Though, with this new screencap with him screaming that it wasn't a prostitute, then sorry, that screams BS to me.

So Chris just met a random stranger who wanted to fuck him and they "hit it off". Uh huh, sure. I'm more willing to believe the hooker story, not a normal girl; at least not one without severe metal retardation. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:46, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*Please read my post again. I said all images uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit. By that, I mean only the initial announcement and Chris's witch hunt through his friends list are real. The third one was deleted after being uploaded, as it is fake. Furthermore, Cogs has confirmed that everything Jimmy uploaded is legit. This should be all the proof you need. Chris did in fact purchase a hooker and have sex. The only thing you should speculate about is whether or not he shat himself in the process.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:53, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm still wary, sorry. Even these apparent official screencaps (on the page) have numerous contradictory claims or red flags.
"We did it in her room"
Chris actually traveled to meet a woman? Unlikely. Do hookers use their own private rooms for sex? Don't think so.

And this "We hit it off and exchanged numbers" just bugs the hell out of me. Like I said, he either got the best hooker in the business (ie, one who knows how to lie like a pro to all her loser clients) or it wasn't a hooker. And I'm sorry, but if it wasn't a hooker, I can't believe it. I need more solid proof than just "Cogs confirmed it." Doesn't that mean all they confirmed is that Chris actually wrote those? Not the fact that he's lying? You know... I need more proof, which will come in a few days. Until them, all I'm saying is, I'm highly skeptical about it.

A prostitute, I can believe, but there's so many contradictory statements that don't say prostitute, so we'll see... --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 09:02, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*There's a difference between "travel out of state"(every fake girlfriend ever) and "drive for 20 minutes to an arbitrary location"(hookers). For one, Chris can sneak out and visit a hooker without Barb noticing anything off. Hookers do not own their own private rooms, yes, but remember that Chris is terrible at phrasing things. By "her room" he probably means "the hotel room we arranged to meet at". Simple. And it really isn't "pro" lying to tell a delusional fat nerd that his deformed penis isn't horrible. If anything it's standard business practice as far as hookers are concerned. Cogs confirming it should be all the proof you need. Please point out any other "contradictory" statements, because I don't see any.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:11, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

== Why are we assuming that Chris is telling the truth? ==

He has lied about his first sexual encounter before. Remember "Chloe?" --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 08:57, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

If you read above, Cogs tweeted that he bought a hooker.

When did he ever say that he had sex with Chloe? All I remember is Chris claiming that they had a date at Taco Bell and "kissed deeply", that's it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:04, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, he's never lied about having sex. Plus, like I've said before, this event wasn't for other people. Chris had sex because he didn't want to die a virgin. Chris thought he was going to die in jail so he thought he was going to die very soon. So he had to lose his virginity. It actually happened.

Now, although it actually happened, I'm not claiming that 100% of Chris' post is accurate. A hooker is going to tell him bullshit. Also he's really shitty at describing things. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:23, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
: He says that Chloe WAS his "Virgin-Taker"... I guess people assumed that this meant he said he had sex. I'm kinda thinking, that with Chris being as shitty at describing things as he is, meant that she was going to be, what we would consider, "The One". Though, I'm still not sure if he had sex. If he did... well she wasn't free and this woman (or man...) was dedicated to her job...--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:42, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Template:Da update

2012-04-13T14:28:24Z

4Macie: THERE! now everyone can be freaking happy and just drop it. Ok, Chris lost his virginity. Deal with it. The only question now is if it WAS a prostitute (probable) or if it was this new girl. If we find out later; we can change it again. Deal?

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*8 [[April 2012|April]]: Chris finally lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]], the "how" is still up in the air.
*5 [[April 2012|April]]: The Ruckersville Two attend yet another hearing. They are to be sent to a Grand Jury on April 16 regarding [[28 October 2011|their felony cases]], with their other charges being rendered ''[[Wikipedia:Nolle prosequi|nolle prosequi]]''.
*31 [[March 2012|March]] and 1 [[April 2012|April]]: Chris posts [[Facebook#Shooting_Myself_in_the_Foot|two new notes on Facebook]].
*24 [[February 2012|February]]: [[TheCWCvilleLibrary]] releases a grand number of [[Tomgirl]] videos aimed at [[Jackie]], who is apparently back in contact with Chris: "[[The Red-Maned Deer]]", [[Cakefarts]], [[Chris and Jackie's Date‎]], [[You're Always Pretty]] (a wild Snorlax appears!), [[Little Tomboy Blue‎]], [[Who's Your Brony?]], [[Forgot the Glitter‎]], "[[Teenage Dream]]" and [[Cheerleader]]. Chris [[Birthday|becomes]] the 30-Year-Old [[Virgin]]. He gets a [[PlayStation Vita]] and hundreds of dollars' worth of games.
*17 [[February 2012|February]]: [[Alex's Lemonade Stand|CWCville helps]]: Chris planned to raise money for charity by opening a lemonade stand.
*12 [[February 2012|February]]: Chris' [[Facebook|status updates]] are leaked.
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Template talk:Da update

2012-04-13T06:01:43Z

4Macie: /* EDIT WAR IN PROGRESS */

==Three videos from the 12th==
Why are they not here? We have Chris singing, Chris out in public with actual sunlight, and making a dumb as fuck comment, that is what an update is, my friends. You may be saying "But Champthom, why haven't you?" and I say to you "NO U!" Seriously, stuff should go on this template first before it ends up on the CWChronology. Srsly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:30, 15 July 2009 (CEST)

==Gardening==
Did a little gardening by removing a few of the posts from this template. It was taking up quite a bit of room on the main page.

Remember to add to both [[Da Update]] and the corresponding month and vice versa, sometimes this doesn't happen. [[User:Granola|Granola]] 02:11, 16 August 2009 (CEST)

== Da update versus CWCipediaTracker ==

People, please, given the status of the CWCipedia, all CWCipedia related updates belong in the [[:Template:CWCipediaTracker|CWCipedia Tracker]] whereas things like new videos, leaked material, etc. belong here in Da update.

Seriously, I am disappoint. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
* I think a lot of that is my fault. I didn't understand the difference; I assumed they overlapped. Sorry about that. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 15:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

== A book? ==

Chris is seriously writing a book? That can't be true. Also, he mentions that one of his "gal friends" is helping him write it. This has got to be one of Chris's lies. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 02:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Maybe he's getting over ''Sonichu'' even if he promised a super-duper issue for the tenth anniversary of the Fail-Comic. As far as the "Lady-Friend" goes, we saw her in a previous video. (Hint; she's inflatable). [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I feel sorry for [[Kimmi]]. She is always dragged into Chris's bullshit and she is unable to object to it. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 02:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
*Guys, [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|CWCki is not a forum]]. Stuff like this doesn't belong here. There's other places to discuss this like [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/25081.html this Krapple thread] or something like that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:20, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== It should be obvious but ==

Only Chris related updates belong here.

Shit like [[Sonichu: The Animated Series]] can go on the [[Fan:Index]].

Srsly, don't pull this shit again or else someone is getting banned. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

== Important something which I will delete in a minute ==
Damnit, how do I get to the cwcipedia tracker? Mailbag 60 is up. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*I got it covered. In future, when you edit the main page, it'll give a link to the templates used on the main page at the bottom. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

==Suggested Update==
Someone added Sydney getting busted to the months events, so did we want to add it here?

Suggestion: In a rare win for Chris, the manchild identifies and shoots down a [[Sydney Contacts|troll]] based off information garnered from the troll forums.

--[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I assume that you told nobody of your plan to pose as a girl with the intent of getting him to answer the Mailbag again. It wasn't any moment of clarity, he just had you mixed up with Jackie.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:*I am firmly 'No Comment'ing anything that relates to how, precisely, Sydney's cover was blown. Sorry mate. If you are desperate to know, you should know where to go to ask. PS <3 your rambles, FYI. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== 17 June ==

Chris just returned to Twitter. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 01:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

:Is there a reason you're putting this on the talk page instead of the actual template? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 01:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::<del>Template's locked.</del> Now for some reason it's open again. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 01:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Template locked ==

For the mall waiting video I think we should take the 'money' part out to avoid suspicion and revert it to 'unknown reason'. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 17:20, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*Why? I thought CWCki was against censorship. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 17:27, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
**You need to unlock the template... [[Clyde_and_Tito_PS3_E-mails]] needs to be added...
**If we show that we know what Chris was waiting for, it could harm a very promising saga. I thought this was one of the things that we would keep quiet for now until it's safe to let Chris know that we be trollin'. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 23:42, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
***Ohh... I see. I GUESS that makes sense, but the article is definitely on the CWCki and linked from quite a few pages. He might just search for it and find it anyway... but knowing Chris, that's not too likely. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 05:26, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

== I found something. ==

As of now on the Rule 34 Pahael site they have the picture of sailor moon Chris-chan as the featured image. Is this notable? Anyone care? [[User:No.|Written by this person.]] 15:30, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:It's already been uploaded and added to the [[Sailor Moon]] article. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 15:36, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

== Is there a reason for a lack of new update notices? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 10:43, 23 September 2010 (PDT)
:I had a stab at it. With so many leaked documents recently, it's easy to forget about da update =) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:06, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

== Notability and Da update ==

What makes something worthy of being included in Da update? If something's worth mentioning on the [[July 2011|monthly chronology]], wouldn't it also warrant a mention on Da update? I'm thinking specifically of the entry "21 July: Chris reveals his identity in a Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia post." from [[July 2011|here]].

== 'Where no shit is too minor.' ==
Why was the phone message update deleted? It was quite relevant if you think about it, as he sounded legitimately unwell. It is worth at least some discussion. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 06:48, 9 December 2011 (PST)
: One word; Liability. I believe there's legal consequences in linking this material here. Now that the Virginian justice system is dealing with Chris, better not putting a lightning rod on top of this site. If Chris is dumb enough to not try to close the CWCki, Rocky is another matter. Download the audio and stash it, just don't post it here. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:53, 9 December 2011 (PST)
::I think he means the answering machine thing. The reason that's not up here is just because it's not "big" enough. Quite a few people only check the CWCki to look at the update. What goes in the update should be big enough to pique their interest. "Chris says he's sick" isn't good enough. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 07:58, 9 December 2011 (PST)
:: What the heck did Griffintown thing he meant? Feel free to say you can't say... but what the heck was up here that would have been considered a 'liability'? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:42, 9 December 2011 (PST)
:::There's an audio file out there with Rocky talking about Chris. It's on the /cwc/ and I thought we were talking about this audio. As far as the answering machine's message goes, it doesn't fit on the update page. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:56, 9 December 2011 (PST)
:We also lack an exact date of when he changed the message. It may have been that way for a while. The liability thing is not an issue - it's more than beyond the scope of the court proceedings. But yeah - the main point is - no shit is to minor re: the CWCki in general - but Da update bulletins are reserved for significant developments, such as the release of new material (by Chris or about Chris from true trolls) or events that involve Chris or a major actor in his life so far. A dry spell for Chris news is not an excuse to lower the bar of what's significant and what isn't. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 9 December 2011 (PST)
I was the one who added the message to the template, and I understand why it was removed. I do apologize. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 13:26, 9 December 2011 (PST)

== Is this new or not? ==

http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Weston-Chandler/100002534669114

It's most likely a troll account, but I've never seen that picture before. --[[User:R3trogay|R3trogay]] 10:10, 26 January 2012 (PST)
:Either it's Chris or it's someone DELIBERATELY HOARDING CONTENT and then leaking it for no reason. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:21, 26 January 2012 (PST)
*It's the same account that was accredited to be Chris's last time he made one...he just updated the photo for his profile and made a note in september. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:43, 26 January 2012 (PST)
**this IS chris however its not going on Da Update because chris DOES read the front page and dont want him to close his FB account [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 05:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)

== Recent events ==

Dear old [[User:MellowColor|MellowColor]], perhaps the simplest of us all, is the first of you to ask the burning question - why isn't the new content, like Facebook and the Lemonade Stand thing, on Da update? Personally, I think these are significant developments that should be notified on Da update. After all, Da update is why most people come here - they'll come to see what's new with Chris. I think we should point out that yes, there is new content and Chris is up to his usual hijinks. Now of course, I understand why people have been reluctant to add it - they're afraid that Chris will see it, and stop posting stuff on Facebook and such. I can see that it'd be imprudent, but should we be concerned with Chris producing content? I personally don't like using the CWCki as a trolling tool, including censoring ourselves in order to get more content from Chris. But that's mostly my opinion though.

So what say you all? Should we perhaps have a [[Wikipedia:Media blackout|media blackout]] of sorts? Should we lock this template until Chris is producing content again? I've thought of adding something along the lines of "This template is currently in lockdown mode, please check Recent changes for up-to-date news" but of course that'll just mean Chris will start checking out Recent updates (though he'd have to go through the effort of picking out what's new). Should we raise the bar on what constitutes an update? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:19, 23 February 2012 (PST)
:I think while Chris is less active, we should lower the bar to a certain extent. It's not that we are desperate for Da Update to be updated all the time - but minor things can sometimes lead up to larger events, so Da Update can also serve as a "heads up" kind of system. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:56, 23 February 2012 (PST)

==EDIT WAR IN PROGRESS==

I'm getting several notificiations a minute about new edits and it's fucking with my down time. Talk it out here or somewhere else rather than just undoing one anothers' edits. Preferably with several minutes between posts. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:21, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

:Those who have access to Chris' Facebook have confirmed that the update is genuine, those who are in a position to confirm it on the ground have confirmed it. What more is required?[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 12:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

::How was it confirmed, exactly? Did they talk to the girl he fucked? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:07, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

::All I've seen of confirmation is Cogdev's twitter that the post is legit. I've yet to see a confirmation that Chris actually had sex with anyone, which is how the articles were written. Not to mention that the word of trolls has never been extremely reliable (see Ali Baboo or whatever his name was), it could be a joke for all we know.

::Waiting a few days for more confirmation (if it exists) is a good idea at this point. If no more comes of this, it should probably be left off the CWCki entirely in my opinion. If others disagree or if no confirmation exists that Chris actually had sex, we should write the articles accordingly, i.e. say Chris claims to have had sex, not just assuming that Chris actually told the truth for once. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 13:12, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

:::What form of confirmation would work for you?[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 13:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::Confirmation from multiple users who have shown to be reliable in the past. Screenshots from other users. An actual picture (as in from a camera) or video of the facebook account or anything harder to fake. Something from the facebook of someone who we know is actually in contact with him, etc. One easily photoshopped picture really isn't much to go on.
::::Hell, Cogs or another admin could come on and tell us to keep it up and then it would stay. But that email from the Gameplace incident didn't go up for quite a while because it wasn't verifiable, this is no different. This is more an ED sort of thing until we get more info. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 13:56, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::I think you have a good point with the GAMePLACe email. From my understanding, that one didn't come through 'regular' channels, meaning it took longer than normal to verify, but I think having something more to go on would be useful. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:04, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::http://twitter.com/#!/cogsdev/status/190273723620794368 There's your confirmation. To be honest the only thing that surprises me about this is that he didn't do it as soon as Bob kicked the bucket.--[[User:GladesPlugin|GladesPlugin]] 14:46, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::Chris actually had sex. That's what the cwcki should say. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 13:45, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::Documented for blatant accuracy son.--[[User:Inos|Inos]] 16:08, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::With what I said above in mind, is there any way you can get a screencap that isn't so heavily cropped and/or uses the standard FaceBook font? I think one of the main reasons this has been doubted so far is because it LOOKS fake. All the other FaceBook screencaps have been in a standard format to which this screencap doesn't adhere. If you could get that, I think it would do a lot to assuage peoples' doubts. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:04, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::Uhh, maybe. But either way, Chris having gotten laid should be cwcki policy from now on. I think I have the authority to do that, right? I'm pretty sure I'm in the admin group. If not, I'll just find champ or cogs and have them do it. But I'm pretty sure I'm in the admin group. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 14:10, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::If Canine is considered a good enough source (if he isn't he should be) would it be alright for me to revert the relevant edits? Or would people prefer me to wait until a better screenshot is provided? (The old one can always stay up as a placeholder before being replaced by a new one.)[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 14:17, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::: For the record, This is just Chris CLAIMING to have lost his virginity, not actual confirmation of his lost virginity. You can write that Chris CLAIMED to have gotten laid, not that he actually got laid. That's my $.02 --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 14:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::No one's answered my question. Do we have a confirmation from the supposed unlucky woman and her identity is being withheld or are we just taking Chris's word for it? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 14:34, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::I agree with this. That's been the standard on what we do when Chris has said things of this nature in the past. If there's something else that acts as evidence aside from Chris' testimony, I think we should wait until it's released to claim that what he said was actually true. Chris has a tendency to integrate fiction into what he presents as reality. For example, I think it's reasonable to assume that they didn't actually "hit it off from the shared characteristic of being good people". Until we know what's real and what isn't, I don't think we should present any of it as more than what Chris said happened. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:43, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::::::Uhh... I don't know. Like, sure, Chris will bullshit things. I'd say that Chris actually got laid. Chris got genuine vaginal sex. I can't verify anything else he claimed. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 14:50, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::I don't doubt that he did. I don't think you'd be pushing this if you didn't believe it. I think the issue Jesusfish was pointing out with the mention of the GAMePLACe email, and the main issue I have, is that unlike almost everything on the wiki that's presented as fact, there's not yet any physical confirmation that what he said correlates with reality. If there's more, which it would seem there is from your certainty, that's fine, but if it's not publicly available, it doesn't matter if we all agree that everything Chris wrote is true, it's against policy to treat it as fact. To quote the policy:
::::::::::"In order for something to be considered update worthy, it has to be a publicly available media involving Chris. '''While there are many reliable sources who can provide information on Chris, it still does not hold up to encyclopedic standards, which CWCki strives to adhere to.'''" I'm not saying I don't believe you, just that we shouldn't say it's true until we have something that indicates that it is beyond the boasts of the world's least reliable narrator. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 15:08, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::So... the former, then? Cool, thanks for answering. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 15:26, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::Thanks, by the way. It's been bothering me as much as it's been bothering other people and I think it's something that should be cleared up while it's still fresh. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:44, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::I'm really starting to think this is just part of a trolling attempt on Chris and/or the trolls by PVCC. A bunch of users who haven't done anything for years show up and try really hard to get the CWCki to say that Chris got laid, not just claimed to but actually did it. I don't know if there's a policy on the CWCki trolling Chris, but we probably need an admin to step in and give the say either way. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 14:48, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::I'm an admin. Chris had sex. And it's not just that he claimed he had sex. Chris had sex. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 14:50, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::Scratch that, saw that you have protected pages before, although you've also edited articles trying to troll Chris. Still doesn't make me believe he actually had sex, but whatever, if people want it up and admins say so, it'll go up. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 15:05, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::::Using the cwcki as a trolling tool is a really bad habit and I apologize for ever having done that. With that having been said, Chris *has* gotten laid. He's almost gotten laid in the past. He's tried to hire hookers before. He just managed to succeed this time. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 15:24, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::Being an admin doesn't make you correct 100% of the time. Provide some proof, or leave it as "Chris claims to have sex". All we have are 2 facebook cutouts and "because I said so". That's not good enough for a wiki that's meant to be based on facts and evidence. --[[User:IThrewTheFrisbee|IThrewTheFrisbee]] 18:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::::ANGRY VIRGINS IN DENIAL: GENERAL

To be honest, I don't think this issue has been resolved, and I think the continuing reversions is testament to that. It's late and I want to go to sleep. Would it be acceptable to have a short-term compromise until tomorrow and just have the update say that Chris claims to have had sex? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 16:15, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:No because he did and canine is an admin and said so. --[[User:Inos|Inos]] 16:17, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::That sounds logical and reasonable. Anyway, if Canine is so dead certain that Chris did the do, then I guess I'll take his word for it. Some actual evidence would be nice, but I'm sure he has his reasons for withholding it. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 16:21, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::There's the screencap of the status. Otherwise there's not any other evidence. It's not like Chris was able to tape it or anything. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 17:15, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::Judging from your previous posts, you sure are confident in the validity of a couple of Facebook statuses. Why are you so sure he isn't lying? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 17:32, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::Why would he lie now? He's always had the option to claim he's had sex in the past and he's never done it. Also, he's attempted to hire prostitutes before in the past. He fucked up before and they hung up on him, but if you keep trying at something, you'll probably eventually succeed. That's what happened here. He thought he was going to die in jail, so he didn't want to die a virgin. Desperation. Now, the only fact I am verifying is that Chris had sex. The rest is full of exaggerations and poor wording because Chris is a retard and can't write. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 21:09, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::::Umm...not to correct you or anything, but he HAS claimed to have had the "virgin-braker" before... it was shown to be a lie because he later couldn't even remember ever talking about a girl named Chloe. Again, if he had sex, than fine... but I highly doubt it was for free... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 23:01, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
*If it's worth anything, I really think we should stick with "Claimed to have had sex". Simply because Chris has exaggerated and lied about a lot of stuff (via facebook and other means) about relationship stuff. The Kissing Wall-flower bit, as well as claiming a woman named Chloe took his virginity. I'm not sure yet how we will confirm anything; but 1) the facebook status we have doesn't look right to me. It does not look like a facebook status at all (the font is off, it's too thin). 2) We've all seen Chris's dick, there's no way it was "Soo big and good, that it put the last dude she was with to shame". 3) Now, if we take what a twitter of cogsdev to be true, Chris did have sex.. but it was with a prostitute (which would suggest Chris is, in some part, lying). I have no problem with saying Chris had sex...if it's true. I just highly doubt it was with who he suggests it was with..and that it was free. So until we can somehow figure this out, I think "claimed" to have sex is good enough. I'm not sure why anyone has a problem with it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:19, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
*Chris being a virgin is a big part of his identity. Since he is no longer a virgin, I'd like that to be mentioned on the cwcki. The font problems are because of linux bullshit. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 21:09, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

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...wait, so does this mean Chris didn't have sex? or is he saying he did but not with a prostitute...--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 22:34, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

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Just got this from my good friend Anna. Uploading it as the image demands. [[User:Jimmy Jazz|Jimmy Jazz]] 18:41, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:What I find amusing is that Chris seems offended by having it up here... when, for years, he's been trying to tell us that he will get china one day. The only explanation I've found is from cogsdev's twitter which says they have evidence and a source that says Chris spent about $250 for a prostitute... which wouldn't surprise me in the least. Of course, if this is true, this may be why Chris is so offended that it got leaked here. If this gets more intense, can we please call it the "Virgin Breaker Saga" or "Prostitute Saga"... please? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:20, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

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4Macie:

why does this font look so off from normal facebook font? normal facebook font is thicker than this for one thing... though the font itself doesn't look the same. is it possible to change your facebook font?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:Linux. It has different fonts. [[User:Jimmy Jazz|Jimmy Jazz]] 19:00, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::I'm a naive fool and have no idea what Linux is... googling it caused butt hurt--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:17, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

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==Three videos from the 12th==
Why are they not here? We have Chris singing, Chris out in public with actual sunlight, and making a dumb as fuck comment, that is what an update is, my friends. You may be saying "But Champthom, why haven't you?" and I say to you "NO U!" Seriously, stuff should go on this template first before it ends up on the CWChronology. Srsly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:30, 15 July 2009 (CEST)

==Gardening==
Did a little gardening by removing a few of the posts from this template. It was taking up quite a bit of room on the main page.

Remember to add to both [[Da Update]] and the corresponding month and vice versa, sometimes this doesn't happen. [[User:Granola|Granola]] 02:11, 16 August 2009 (CEST)

== Da update versus CWCipediaTracker ==

People, please, given the status of the CWCipedia, all CWCipedia related updates belong in the [[:Template:CWCipediaTracker|CWCipedia Tracker]] whereas things like new videos, leaked material, etc. belong here in Da update.

Seriously, I am disappoint. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
* I think a lot of that is my fault. I didn't understand the difference; I assumed they overlapped. Sorry about that. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 15:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

== A book? ==

Chris is seriously writing a book? That can't be true. Also, he mentions that one of his "gal friends" is helping him write it. This has got to be one of Chris's lies. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 02:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Maybe he's getting over ''Sonichu'' even if he promised a super-duper issue for the tenth anniversary of the Fail-Comic. As far as the "Lady-Friend" goes, we saw her in a previous video. (Hint; she's inflatable). [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I feel sorry for [[Kimmi]]. She is always dragged into Chris's bullshit and she is unable to object to it. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 02:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
*Guys, [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|CWCki is not a forum]]. Stuff like this doesn't belong here. There's other places to discuss this like [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/25081.html this Krapple thread] or something like that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:20, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== It should be obvious but ==

Only Chris related updates belong here.

Shit like [[Sonichu: The Animated Series]] can go on the [[Fan:Index]].

Srsly, don't pull this shit again or else someone is getting banned. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

== Important something which I will delete in a minute ==
Damnit, how do I get to the cwcipedia tracker? Mailbag 60 is up. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*I got it covered. In future, when you edit the main page, it'll give a link to the templates used on the main page at the bottom. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

==Suggested Update==
Someone added Sydney getting busted to the months events, so did we want to add it here?

Suggestion: In a rare win for Chris, the manchild identifies and shoots down a [[Sydney Contacts|troll]] based off information garnered from the troll forums.

--[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I assume that you told nobody of your plan to pose as a girl with the intent of getting him to answer the Mailbag again. It wasn't any moment of clarity, he just had you mixed up with Jackie.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:*I am firmly 'No Comment'ing anything that relates to how, precisely, Sydney's cover was blown. Sorry mate. If you are desperate to know, you should know where to go to ask. PS <3 your rambles, FYI. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== 17 June ==

Chris just returned to Twitter. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 01:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

:Is there a reason you're putting this on the talk page instead of the actual template? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 01:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::<del>Template's locked.</del> Now for some reason it's open again. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 01:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Template locked ==

For the mall waiting video I think we should take the 'money' part out to avoid suspicion and revert it to 'unknown reason'. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 17:20, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*Why? I thought CWCki was against censorship. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 17:27, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
**You need to unlock the template... [[Clyde_and_Tito_PS3_E-mails]] needs to be added...
**If we show that we know what Chris was waiting for, it could harm a very promising saga. I thought this was one of the things that we would keep quiet for now until it's safe to let Chris know that we be trollin'. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 23:42, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
***Ohh... I see. I GUESS that makes sense, but the article is definitely on the CWCki and linked from quite a few pages. He might just search for it and find it anyway... but knowing Chris, that's not too likely. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 05:26, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

== I found something. ==

As of now on the Rule 34 Pahael site they have the picture of sailor moon Chris-chan as the featured image. Is this notable? Anyone care? [[User:No.|Written by this person.]] 15:30, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:It's already been uploaded and added to the [[Sailor Moon]] article. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 15:36, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

== Is there a reason for a lack of new update notices? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 10:43, 23 September 2010 (PDT)
:I had a stab at it. With so many leaked documents recently, it's easy to forget about da update =) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:06, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

== Notability and Da update ==

What makes something worthy of being included in Da update? If something's worth mentioning on the [[July 2011|monthly chronology]], wouldn't it also warrant a mention on Da update? I'm thinking specifically of the entry "21 July: Chris reveals his identity in a Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia post." from [[July 2011|here]].

== 'Where no shit is too minor.' ==
Why was the phone message update deleted? It was quite relevant if you think about it, as he sounded legitimately unwell. It is worth at least some discussion. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 06:48, 9 December 2011 (PST)
: One word; Liability. I believe there's legal consequences in linking this material here. Now that the Virginian justice system is dealing with Chris, better not putting a lightning rod on top of this site. If Chris is dumb enough to not try to close the CWCki, Rocky is another matter. Download the audio and stash it, just don't post it here. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:53, 9 December 2011 (PST)
::I think he means the answering machine thing. The reason that's not up here is just because it's not "big" enough. Quite a few people only check the CWCki to look at the update. What goes in the update should be big enough to pique their interest. "Chris says he's sick" isn't good enough. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 07:58, 9 December 2011 (PST)
:: What the heck did Griffintown thing he meant? Feel free to say you can't say... but what the heck was up here that would have been considered a 'liability'? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:42, 9 December 2011 (PST)
:::There's an audio file out there with Rocky talking about Chris. It's on the /cwc/ and I thought we were talking about this audio. As far as the answering machine's message goes, it doesn't fit on the update page. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:56, 9 December 2011 (PST)
:We also lack an exact date of when he changed the message. It may have been that way for a while. The liability thing is not an issue - it's more than beyond the scope of the court proceedings. But yeah - the main point is - no shit is to minor re: the CWCki in general - but Da update bulletins are reserved for significant developments, such as the release of new material (by Chris or about Chris from true trolls) or events that involve Chris or a major actor in his life so far. A dry spell for Chris news is not an excuse to lower the bar of what's significant and what isn't. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 9 December 2011 (PST)
I was the one who added the message to the template, and I understand why it was removed. I do apologize. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 13:26, 9 December 2011 (PST)

== Is this new or not? ==

http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Weston-Chandler/100002534669114

It's most likely a troll account, but I've never seen that picture before. --[[User:R3trogay|R3trogay]] 10:10, 26 January 2012 (PST)
:Either it's Chris or it's someone DELIBERATELY HOARDING CONTENT and then leaking it for no reason. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:21, 26 January 2012 (PST)
*It's the same account that was accredited to be Chris's last time he made one...he just updated the photo for his profile and made a note in september. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:43, 26 January 2012 (PST)
**this IS chris however its not going on Da Update because chris DOES read the front page and dont want him to close his FB account [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 05:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)

== Recent events ==

Dear old [[User:MellowColor|MellowColor]], perhaps the simplest of us all, is the first of you to ask the burning question - why isn't the new content, like Facebook and the Lemonade Stand thing, on Da update? Personally, I think these are significant developments that should be notified on Da update. After all, Da update is why most people come here - they'll come to see what's new with Chris. I think we should point out that yes, there is new content and Chris is up to his usual hijinks. Now of course, I understand why people have been reluctant to add it - they're afraid that Chris will see it, and stop posting stuff on Facebook and such. I can see that it'd be imprudent, but should we be concerned with Chris producing content? I personally don't like using the CWCki as a trolling tool, including censoring ourselves in order to get more content from Chris. But that's mostly my opinion though.

So what say you all? Should we perhaps have a [[Wikipedia:Media blackout|media blackout]] of sorts? Should we lock this template until Chris is producing content again? I've thought of adding something along the lines of "This template is currently in lockdown mode, please check Recent changes for up-to-date news" but of course that'll just mean Chris will start checking out Recent updates (though he'd have to go through the effort of picking out what's new). Should we raise the bar on what constitutes an update? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:19, 23 February 2012 (PST)
:I think while Chris is less active, we should lower the bar to a certain extent. It's not that we are desperate for Da Update to be updated all the time - but minor things can sometimes lead up to larger events, so Da Update can also serve as a "heads up" kind of system. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:56, 23 February 2012 (PST)

==EDIT WAR IN PROGRESS==

I'm getting several notificiations a minute about new edits and it's fucking with my down time. Talk it out here or somewhere else rather than just undoing one anothers' edits. Preferably with several minutes between posts. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:21, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

:Those who have access to Chris' Facebook have confirmed that the update is genuine, those who are in a position to confirm it on the ground have confirmed it. What more is required?[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 12:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

::How was it confirmed, exactly? Did they talk to the girl he fucked? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:07, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

::All I've seen of confirmation is Cogdev's twitter that the post is legit. I've yet to see a confirmation that Chris actually had sex with anyone, which is how the articles were written. Not to mention that the word of trolls has never been extremely reliable (see Ali Baboo or whatever his name was), it could be a joke for all we know.

::Waiting a few days for more confirmation (if it exists) is a good idea at this point. If no more comes of this, it should probably be left off the CWCki entirely in my opinion. If others disagree or if no confirmation exists that Chris actually had sex, we should write the articles accordingly, i.e. say Chris claims to have had sex, not just assuming that Chris actually told the truth for once. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 13:12, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

:::What form of confirmation would work for you?[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 13:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::Confirmation from multiple users who have shown to be reliable in the past. Screenshots from other users. An actual picture (as in from a camera) or video of the facebook account or anything harder to fake. Something from the facebook of someone who we know is actually in contact with him, etc. One easily photoshopped picture really isn't much to go on.
::::Hell, Cogs or another admin could come on and tell us to keep it up and then it would stay. But that email from the Gameplace incident didn't go up for quite a while because it wasn't verifiable, this is no different. This is more an ED sort of thing until we get more info. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 13:56, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::I think you have a good point with the GAMePLACe email. From my understanding, that one didn't come through 'regular' channels, meaning it took longer than normal to verify, but I think having something more to go on would be useful. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:04, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::http://twitter.com/#!/cogsdev/status/190273723620794368 There's your confirmation. To be honest the only thing that surprises me about this is that he didn't do it as soon as Bob kicked the bucket.--[[User:GladesPlugin|GladesPlugin]] 14:46, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::Chris actually had sex. That's what the cwcki should say. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 13:45, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::Documented for blatant accuracy son.--[[User:Inos|Inos]] 16:08, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::With what I said above in mind, is there any way you can get a screencap that isn't so heavily cropped and/or uses the standard FaceBook font? I think one of the main reasons this has been doubted so far is because it LOOKS fake. All the other FaceBook screencaps have been in a standard format to which this screencap doesn't adhere. If you could get that, I think it would do a lot to assuage peoples' doubts. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:04, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::Uhh, maybe. But either way, Chris having gotten laid should be cwcki policy from now on. I think I have the authority to do that, right? I'm pretty sure I'm in the admin group. If not, I'll just find champ or cogs and have them do it. But I'm pretty sure I'm in the admin group. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 14:10, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::If Canine is considered a good enough source (if he isn't he should be) would it be alright for me to revert the relevant edits? Or would people prefer me to wait until a better screenshot is provided? (The old one can always stay up as a placeholder before being replaced by a new one.)[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 14:17, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::: For the record, This is just Chris CLAIMING to have lost his virginity, not actual confirmation of his lost virginity. You can write that Chris CLAIMED to have gotten laid, not that he actually got laid. That's my $.02 --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 14:31, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::No one's answered my question. Do we have a confirmation from the supposed unlucky woman and her identity is being withheld or are we just taking Chris's word for it? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 14:34, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::I agree with this. That's been the standard on what we do when Chris has said things of this nature in the past. If there's something else that acts as evidence aside from Chris' testimony, I think we should wait until it's released to claim that what he said was actually true. Chris has a tendency to integrate fiction into what he presents as reality. For example, I think it's reasonable to assume that they didn't actually "hit it off from the shared characteristic of being good people". Until we know what's real and what isn't, I don't think we should present any of it as more than what Chris said happened. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:43, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::::::Uhh... I don't know. Like, sure, Chris will bullshit things. I'd say that Chris actually got laid. Chris got genuine vaginal sex. I can't verify anything else he claimed. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 14:50, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::I don't doubt that he did. I don't think you'd be pushing this if you didn't believe it. I think the issue Jesusfish was pointing out with the mention of the GAMePLACe email, and the main issue I have, is that unlike almost everything on the wiki that's presented as fact, there's not yet any physical confirmation that what he said correlates with reality. If there's more, which it would seem there is from your certainty, that's fine, but if it's not publicly available, it doesn't matter if we all agree that everything Chris wrote is true, it's against policy to treat it as fact. To quote the policy:
::::::::::"In order for something to be considered update worthy, it has to be a publicly available media involving Chris. '''While there are many reliable sources who can provide information on Chris, it still does not hold up to encyclopedic standards, which CWCki strives to adhere to.'''" I'm not saying I don't believe you, just that we shouldn't say it's true until we have something that indicates that it is beyond the boasts of the world's least reliable narrator. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 15:08, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::So... the former, then? Cool, thanks for answering. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 15:26, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::Thanks, by the way. It's been bothering me as much as it's been bothering other people and I think it's something that should be cleared up while it's still fresh. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:44, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::I'm really starting to think this is just part of a trolling attempt on Chris and/or the trolls by PVCC. A bunch of users who haven't done anything for years show up and try really hard to get the CWCki to say that Chris got laid, not just claimed to but actually did it. I don't know if there's a policy on the CWCki trolling Chris, but we probably need an admin to step in and give the say either way. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 14:48, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::I'm an admin. Chris had sex. And it's not just that he claimed he had sex. Chris had sex. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 14:50, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::::Scratch that, saw that you have protected pages before, although you've also edited articles trying to troll Chris. Still doesn't make me believe he actually had sex, but whatever, if people want it up and admins say so, it'll go up. [[User:Jesusfish|Jesusfish]] 15:05, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::::Using the cwcki as a trolling tool is a really bad habit and I apologize for ever having done that. With that having been said, Chris *has* gotten laid. He's almost gotten laid in the past. He's tried to hire hookers before. He just managed to succeed this time. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 15:24, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::::::ANGRY VIRGINS IN DENIAL: GENERAL

To be honest, I don't think this issue has been resolved, and I think the continuing reversions is testament to that. It's late and I want to go to sleep. Would it be acceptable to have a short-term compromise until tomorrow and just have the update say that Chris claims to have had sex? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 16:15, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:No because he did and canine is an admin and said so. --[[User:Inos|Inos]] 16:17, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::That sounds logical and reasonable. Anyway, if Canine is so dead certain that Chris did the do, then I guess I'll take his word for it. Some actual evidence would be nice, but I'm sure he has his reasons for withholding it. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 16:21, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:::There's the screencap of the status. Otherwise there's not any other evidence. It's not like Chris was able to tape it or anything. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 17:15, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
::::Judging from your previous posts, you sure are confident in the validity of a couple of Facebook statuses. Why are you so sure he isn't lying? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 17:32, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
*If it's worth anything, I really think we should stick with "Claimed to have had sex". Simply because Chris has exaggerated and lied about a lot of stuff (via facebook and other means) about relationship stuff. The Kissing Wall-flower bit, as well as claiming a woman named Chloe took his virginity. I'm not sure yet how we will confirm anything; but 1) the facebook status we have doesn't look right to me. It does not look like a facebook status at all (the font is off, it's too thin). 2) We've all seen Chris's dick, there's no way it was "Soo big and good, that it put the last dude she was with to shame". 3) Now, if we take what a twitter of cogsdev to be true, Chris did have sex.. but it was with a prostitute (which would suggest Chris is, in some part, lying). I have no problem with saying Chris had sex...if it's true. I just highly doubt it was with who he suggests it was with..and that it was free. So until we can somehow figure this out, I think "claimed" to have sex is good enough. I'm not sure why anyone has a problem with it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:19, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

April 2012

2012-04-12T23:33:19Z

4Macie: face palmed

'''April [[2012]]''' has seen more fallout from the [[28 October 2011]] incident, but on a brighter note it appears Chris is no longer a [[virgin with rage]].

==Events==
*1 April - Chris writes [[Facebook#An Open Note|An Open Note]] on [[Facebook]].
*3 April - Chris changes his PSN status to "I am Christian" and buys more Vita games.
*5 April - Chris and Barb have another hearing at 1:00 p.m. Trespassing and assault are dismissed, Grand Jury to decide felony hit and run. [[Michael_Snyder|Michael Snyder's]] protection order was granted against both Chris and Barb, potentially equating to [[Chris_and_the_Law|jail time]] if either of them trespass again.
*12 April - A leaked [[Facebook]] status update reveals that Chris announced the loss of his virginity on a recent Sunday.
*16 April - Chris and Barbara are scheduled to appear before a grand jury at 9:30 a.m.

{{Timeline}}

Talk:28 October 2011

2012-04-12T04:28:32Z

4Macie: /* Time to split */ long winded explanation. TLDR; just leave it as it is...it makes sense.

{{Not A Forum}}
== Proposed article ==

This is my proposed solution to how we manage and collect information pertaining to the events of October 28th 2011.

To-do:
* Add categories
* Add more verifiable information
* <s>Screencap the pages from the court website for preservation.</s>

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: Do we have a field agent that can attend the court hearing? That should give us the entire story behind all of this --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 13:15, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: I live 2 hours away, my company pays my gas, and if I am not too busy with a lady, I could attend this court hearing if given the proper location of the hearing. [[User:Dickbuns|Dickbuns]] 02:31, 26 February 2012 (PST)

Shouldn't it be mentioned this is the first (major) event since Bob died? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:43, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Is it noteworthy enough to note that their arraignments (or the time that the defendants are told of their crimes and to take guilty or not guilty pleas) have come to pass and according to their records, they are listed as "continued" which in this case means that they probably pled "not guilty" and are now facing their day in court? The only other explanation of "continued" being listed that I found was this, "continued in court cases generally means that they (defendant) plead 'not guilty' or that a plea deal/plea bargain is in the works". I just thought it'd be a note worthy fact-- that they are either planning a deal, or that they think they are not guilty. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:46, 7 November 2011 (PST)
:The article is already rife with speculation, and until we see court documents or other documents - we don't know the exact circumstances surrounding the charges, the pleas given (if any), medical considerations or other reasons for deferral. I'd rather we waited until we could prove the reason for deferral under the "continued" reason before we document it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 7 November 2011 (PST)

===Title===
Shouldn't the title be Americanized? September 11th isn't referred to as 11/9.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:06, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:We have a few articles with titles like this ([[12_October_2009|e.g.]]), so while I don't know if it's "right" or not, much like "Chris's", it's just become a standard. Good eye, though. I didn't catch that it wasn't Americanised. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 16:11, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:I based it on articles like [[6 June 2010]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:: Chris with felonly charges? Ohhh, Santa came early this year, and goddamn, did he deliver~! Anywho; if it was Chris on his own, it might've been dismissed like last time, but with Barb involved too, this is more concrete and serious: I propose that the formal title of the page (or saga, if it comes to that) be the name of the court case (Snyder or People vs Chandler, whatever it may be) when we get it. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:45, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and come to think of it - we Eurofag dates - see [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#When_it_comes_to_dates.2C_be_a_Eurofag|here]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:06, 20 December 2011 (PST)

==x==
Thank you based God [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 16:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Explanation ==

Am I reading this right? Chris got an Assault charge (assumption being it has to do with Snyder) but Barb got one too... but for a police officer, because her day in court was Oct 31, is there any information about what "assault" on the officer she actually did? Does anyone know what "complainant : CASON" means? And where can the stuff about him being in jail for two days be found? (or was this something Chris himself gave out?) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:08, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Edit: ah, the actual trial for the assault isn't until December, so we probably won't find out what she did until then... It was some civil case between her and Snyder that occurred Oct 31-Nov 1--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
** Oct. 31st was her formal arraignment, where I guess they informed her of the charges against her and set a court date for a criminal trial. Whether or not Mr. Snyder will file a civil suit remains to be seen, but somehow I doubt that her wants to have anything more to do with the Chandlers if he can help it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:29, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
***(Messed up original links, but)Snyder's pressing civil charges against both, as both of his civil cases can be seen on the Virginia General District Courts site. Also, assault can be something as simple as a verbal threat, don't know if that was the case here, but it's something to keep in mind. [[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:36, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

== Who paid bail? ==

Is there any way to find out who paid bail? Most likely it was one of his extended family, but still. --[[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 01:33, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
*It could have also been a bondsman, which is pretty likely. That's their whole business. --[[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:38, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

==Civil Charges==
Anyone have any addition info about the civil charges from Mike? http://i.imgur.com/Fz281.png It says they were in court on Nov 1st but the case is listed as "Other Judgement" and a lot of the other fields are empty. Did Mike drop the case? --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 18:12, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*Saw this on /cwc/, it says [http://www.facebook.com/Newsplex/posts/10150348599173564 here] a person was injured, it could have been Mike. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 22:56, 10 November 2011 (PST)
* We still await more concrete and reliable sources about the exact series of events. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:29, 11 November 2011 (PST)

==Chris's defense?==

Not sure if the Autism card will completely save him this time, espectially for a felony. But could his years of being trolled actually give him a valid claim of "harassment". There certainly is an ocean of information posted online about him, much of which is blatant insults towards him. Any chance the CWCki could get in any sort of trouble for instigating these actions by Chris?

Also, may want to bring up that psych evaluation he had back in 2004 when he was kicked out of school. Could that prove any insight to his reasoning behind this incident; and could it maybe help/hurt his case?--[[User:Jcrowley1985|Jcrowley1985]] 19:36, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* No. As far as I can tell, Chris using trolls and/or the CWCki as a reason for violating a restraining order is not going to cut it. I know he used it with the last little incident, but any judge with half a brain stem would realize that it's less about internet bullies and more about a 29-year-old man who should know better just ''not getting it''.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 19:59, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* High Functioning Autism wouldn't play a huge role here, simply because it's not a truly debilitating disorder these days, and there is no way a judge would even consider the argument that "trolls" made him do it.... Chris having trolls doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong and illegal. It'll actually be pretty hilarious if he tries to use this site for proof against trolls simply for the fact that there are a lot of things Chris himself has 'donated' to the site that could get him in even more trouble... for example: does Mr.Snyder know that Chris has stated, on the internet, that Snyder is a child molester and has potentially fiddled with his own kids? Yeah, that won't go over too well. The way things are looking, if Chris is found guilty of any of these; he'll see jail/prison time for sure (if only because he will be unable to pay his huge fees and fines) Barb is probably in the same boat. Sadly, another thing to point out is that if they have to get repo-ed to pay for anything, the county will finally have to deal with their horrendous hoarding problem and will probably condemn the house, just as Bob had feared. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:38, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*It all depends on how his lawyer wants to play it. Is Robert Bell acting as a PD for his pro bono work? Either way, I'd bet that either his lawyer is so blase in regards to the situation and/or so overwrought by his other cases that he'll just advise Chris to plead guilty with mitigating circumstances (autism, grief, etc.), or, it's always possible that Robert Bell's a total shark who'll get Chris off with a slap on the wrist, yet again. Of course, there's always the possibility that he'll be committed.
I know Chris and Barb have four cars (one of which is a Jag according to one of the Kacey calls) so they could hock those for some CWC cash (see that thing I did?), and lord knows that Chris and Barb probably have at least, AT LEAST, $2000 worth of useless shit lying around their house, but, somehow, I'm in doubt that Barb'll be able to rouse Chris off of his ass for long enough to get him to help her (and himself).
I've got to admit, I feel sort of sorry for Chris and Barb. Bob just died and lord knows that you never know what you have until it's gone. Their actions are inexcusable, yeah, but still, it's horrible that things have to end this way, if that's what ends up happening. I was, I guess naively, hoping that something would seep through Chris's skull and he'd just gracefully leave the internet and take some steps to improve himself, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. He should thank God that's he's not going to be going to prison if he does have to be incarcerated. He'd get passed around like fucking candy there.

tl;dr Chris is fucked any-which-way [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:18, 6 November 2011 (PST)

: It's worse than that. If Chris is foolish enough to reference this site, he's going to be pointing the court toward evidence that he has no regrets on this incident, since the first thing he did after getting out of jail was to crow about his crimes here. Any decent prosecutor would then dig up his youtube videos, handily linked throughout the site, and reveal that he's got a history of antisocial behavior, the most recent threats and attempted extortion only just predating his father's passing (and thereby casting doubt on grounds for his recent grief).

: His best chance is an insanity plea, which is difficult to prove on people who can communicate more clearly then Chris can. Ironically, the clearest indicators -- his beliefs that his creations are real -- may come off as so ludicrous that the plea might get dismissed.

: Failing that, he'll be extremely lucky to get a plea bargain down to some serious community service and probation. Unfortunately for him, his history with Snyder in specific shows how extraordinarily lenient everyone's already been. Any decent prosecutor will insist on such as part of their arguments, and should Chris' previous proud attempts at vehicular assault enter play, he's almost certainly going to have jail time as part of a plea. Even disregarding that, though, I'd be surprised if Chris actually made any efforts should he get probation and community service, as his history shows he'd ignore both, forcing the issue of jail time.

: Sadly enough, that's actually the extent of the good news for him. The bad news is that Chris' pride and arrogance may lead him to refuse any such pleas -- in his mind, he's neither insane nor has any of his behavior ever been anything less than justified -- and worse, he may even try to represent himself. Should that happen, his only real shot is to have Barb legally declare him as incompetent. While at first blush that sounds like it'd lead to him getting off on insanity after all, it'd rely primarily on Barb's testimony to go through -- and Barb's already supported him enough to be his accomplice.

: The primary factors now on whether Chris is going to jail are his county's prison system, his prosecutor's diligence, and how much ridiculous bullshit Chris serves up in his own defense. If he acts out in court, continues his libelous antics outside of it, or submits anything damaging in his "defense," he screws himself to oblivion. Hell, if Snyder comes here, or if someone contacts him and points him our way, the prosecution would have a field day.

: Quite frankly, this is so stacked against him I'm almost of a mind Barb did this intentionally to try to get the state to take custody of him before she dies, too, sad as it is to say.

: [[User:Kestrel|Kestrel]] 00:25, 7 November 2011 (PST)

*None of this is really relevant to the article, so next person who contributes something that doesn't relate to this article gets banned. You can talk about it elsewhere like on [http://cwcki.yuku.com our forums].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Article Title and Redirects==

We need to get a more fitting title set up as well as some redirects. I'm not sure how, exactly... But something like "Arrest" for a redirect. My creative juices are currently burnt out so I leave this all up to you for tonight.
:The subsection regarding the incident on the GAMe PLACe page called it "Strike Three, You're Out!" Something along those lines, perhaps?--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:16, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:We are a Wiki at the end of the day - and it's less about getting a "fitting" or amusing title, and more about getting a sensible one. I chose this one based on other articles about specific events (mostly significant videos that were not given a particularly unique name by Chris). "Keep It Simple" is the golden rule here, so any renames should be both simple and yet, unique enough for people to be easily able to find it. I'm totally open to better suggestions for the article title though, as I said near the top of this discussion page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 03:17, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Where==
Did someone know exactly where the trial will take place (ie some court on Chalottesville i presume)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 10:25, 7 November 2011
*[http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Charlottesville/home.html Charlottesville Circuit Court] most likely? The circuit court has jurisdiction over all felonies and that is where a jury trial would be held. Unfortunately on their [http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html case lookup] page, that court isn't in the list. [[User:Penman28|Penman28]] 09:55, 8 November 2011 (PST)
*Considering that the charges are filed under "Charlottesville General District Court" I'm gonna guess thats where things are going down. --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 10:49, 8 November 2011 (PST)

== Chris's Account ==

Is it worth mentioning anything about this "CWC Michael Snyder Interview"? I looked it up on youtube and it's originally from 2010; so it's not really recent, nor does it pertain to anything Chris is talking about. He doesn't even say he wants to lore Chris into the Place; he actually says "We have a Pokemon Tournament the 22nd, I really hope Chris doesn't try to show up... That'd be really bad." I guess what I'm getting at is this: would it be worth putting in a small summary about the video Chris is saying will get him off the hook? Or do we just leave it and if people want to see it they can look it up themselves? (I really wish we could get Mr. Snyder's accounts of the happenings as well, just to compare the two.) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 9 November 2011 (PST)

I removed that section since it isn't 100% confirmed to be Chris yet (and in the case he does - he reads the Wiki). If it gets re-added I'd say just link it and add a Wiki page if there isn't already. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:15, 9 November 2011 (PST)

== Removed the email ==

I went ahead and removed the halfsie-confirmed email I posted in the forums, since it's not fully confirmed to be by Chris and just not someone from Inner/PVCC in-the-know (and for the agent's sake). Just reverse if nobody gives a fuck. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:11, 9 November 2011 (PST)
* I do believe that someone said "Tito and champthom just confirmed that some events match up". So maybe keep it but add some kind of disclaimer saying we don't have Christian Weston Chandler's confirmation; but some highly reliable sources can confirm that events match up?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:52, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Either way, the fact that Chris reads the Wiki remains and leaving the email up compromises a field agent, and genereal consensus is on the forums (in that topic) is that we keep it down until later. PVCC trolls have also asked that it doesn't go up yet on /cwc/. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 16:19, 9 November 2011 (PST)

*There is truth to it, I will tell you that, but I'd prefer it if someone can say something solid about it as in "This is from Chris 100%." I suppose we could leave it with a disclaimer that "According to Tito, this is true" so people can interpret it however they'd like, but I'd prefer that we wait until we can get a solid confirmation about it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:50, 9 November 2011 (PST)

** I'm more concerned with it impacting operations. I don't want to interfere with any plans already in play... I say keep it down until we get confirmation that saga is over --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:22, 9 November 2011 (PST)

We do get information such as emails from offical channels, so I support the motion to omit the material that was added from the article for the timebeing until we are sure of a reliable source. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:50, 10 November 2011 (PST)
:This is still our stance for now - we await further verifiable evidence that this account is verbatim what Chris said. /cwc/ and ED are not reliable enough sources. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:29, 17 November 2011 (PST)

== End of the world ==

If Chris is sentenced in December 2011, next month, that means that if he receives the minimum sentence for his felony count, that means that he will get out of prison on December 2012, the same time that the world is supposed to end. How interesting. --[[User:TheJerk|TheJerk]] 12:56, 12 November 2011 (PST)
:Eh - it's sort of interesting in a theoretical way. Speaking of theories - they don't belong on article talk pages. Please use the links at the top of this talk page to find better places for pointing out or discussing similar things. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:48, 12 November 2011 (PST)

== GAME PLACe ==

The PLACe has changed names now, should we be using the new name in this article I think so, or ate least referred to as "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (Formorly The GAMe PLACe)" for accuracy
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 13:44, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:I think in this case, similar to Chris' vs Chris's, established convention ought to take precedence over accuracy. I don't think the majority of people would know what "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" is, and I don't think there's much need for them to know the new name. The rename probably deserves a mention in the relevant article, but I don't think everything needs to be readjusted. If Chris ever starts referring to the store explicitly by its new name, renaming things might make it easier on readers, but until then, I don't think it's really beneficial. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 13:52, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:*Totally agree Freecell. It definitely should be mentioned in the article, but a name change would just complicate things. And for some reason, I have a really weird feeling that Chris would never call it anything other than "The PLACe". --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:51, 22 November 2011 (PST)

== Court Liaison??? ==

Is there anybody who is planning on going to the courthouse on December 15th in order to document Chris and Snorlax's appearances for us? Perhaps a live blog of the proceedings would be in order? Just saying. --[[User:Osideguy92|Osideguy92]] 20:56, 11 December 2011 (PST)
*Check the CWCki Forum.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:03, 12 December 2011 (PST)

== Rob Bell article needed ==

We need to have an article here on the CWCki about Bell's involvement in the court cases. His involvement in all this is too minor for the other sites. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 21:01, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:All we know about him is that he's representing Chris in court. Unless there's more info out there (such as why he's representing Chris; was he court-appointed or hired by Barb) then I don't see why we should give him his own article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:38, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:We already deleted an article that was created for Rob Bell as we currently don't have enough information on him* to warrant a solo article. For now, any things about him relevant to this case can be documented on this article.
:(*and no, this isn't a call for people to go digging for information on him - we should keep all details on the CWCki related to either Chris or the court case.) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:09, 20 December 2011 (PST)
::we know this:
::"Rob Bell is an honors graduate of the University of Virginia and the University of Virginia Law School. At the Law School, Mr. Bell served as the Executive Editor of the Virginia Law Review and was selected for the Order of the Coif.

::Mr. Bell served for five years as a state prosecutor in Orange County, Virginia. During this time he prosecuted thousands of criminal and traffic cases.

::In 2001, Mr. Bell was elected to the Virginia General Assembly as the Delegate from the 58th District. As Delegate, he serves on the Courts for Justice Committee and the Virginia State Crime Commission. He has authored numerous criminal laws, including laws dealing with drunk driving, sex crimes, and criminal procedure.

::Mr. Bell joined Davidson & Kitzmann in 2005 and tries cases in all state and federal courts.

::His wife, his son Robbie, and his daughter Evelyn live in Albemarle County."
::http://www.dklawyers.com/bio_rbell.htm
::and this http://www.nbc29.com/story/16202740/rob-bell-enters-attorney-general-race [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::Cool. Anything on him relevant to Chris? No? Well okay then. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:17, 20 December 2011 (PST)

::::He is Chris's lawyer, he deserves a stub. more info will come.. The actual trial should give us some information. besides http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:ShortPages [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:50, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::::No he doesn't - not a this time. I have spoken. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== Does this saga have a name? ==

If not i would call it the "Attack on C-Ville (or CWC-Ville) saga.. Is this even a saga? it certainly meets what i would think are the criteria. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:14, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* I'd say it's a part of the ongoing GAMe PLACe Saga. --[[User:SonichuLives|SonichuLives]] 13:32, 3 January 2012 (PST)
** ok the reason i ask is that the graphic for the saga page (and the page itself) needs to be updated to include 2012 stuff[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:49, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== So what happened on Jan 5? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 17:06, 6 January 2012 (PST)

== Protection Order ==

Should it be mentioned in the article what the Protection Order does? Or should we just link it to a definition? A Protection Order for Snyder means that Chris will no longer (for the duration of the order) visit Snyder's place of business, Chris will no longer be able to talk with Snyder, he will no longer be allowed to threaten Snyder in any way (even through internet means), and he will not be able to basically do anything else that involves Snyder (this includes using his name on sites like Facebook). IF Chris is caught doing any of these prohibited things, it can be considered a civil OR criminal offense and Chris will be given a jail/prison sentence along with a fine. I'm thinking this is a very important development for the Chris/Snyder relationship; but I'm not sure if we should directly reference the Protection Order in this article. Thoughts? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:59, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

*That would depend on what priorities take precedence. We could: 1. elaborate rather deeply on the subject and inform CWCki readers right now; or 2. wager Chris and/or Barb don't know about what is entailed, and omit this information in hopes that these penalties will be realized. I personally favor the former myself. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 15:10, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

== Time to split ==

This article either needs a new name, or its time to split it. October 28 2011 has long past and the events of THAT day are DONE. This article seemed like the best place to have all the court info at first but with all the continuances and stuff happening between then and now, this has become more of a saga and i think it should be treated as such. 'Court Saga' is a better name, its more open and less date specific. This article spans 7 months yet it bears as its title a single date in October of 2011. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:55, 10 April 2012 (PDT)
: Nothing has been done about this yet, i suggest that the event be given a name and that information about this event be split. One page for the events of that day (this one) and a second page that outlines the court the entire situation. Otherwise it may be easier to just rename this article to something that is more fitting for a page that deals with more than just one date. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:16, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
So do it. --[[User:Mr Derp|Mr Derp]] 12:03, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
:* my thoughts don't mean shit...but here it goes. 1) if it bothers you that much that the title of this article says 28 October 2011 because, as you said, this has gone over 7 months now; than change it. If someone else doesn't like it, they'll change it... and those that don't care will just leave it be. 2) Personally, I think it should just stay 28 October 2011 because that's what it is... Now, I'm going to go into a dangerous road here, but please, don't take offense. 9/11 (for example) is the day thousands died; yet it is still commonly known as 9/11 or September 11th. It's not 9/11/01, and not usually September 11th, 2001. It's also not called, The Day Planes Hit The Twin Towers And The Pentagon And A Place Near A Farm And Thousands Died (Saga);. It's just not, and again, I'm not trying to start something, I'm just using 9/11 as an example that sometimes things are known simply because the DATE itself was important, not just the days/months/years that came with it... I really think that this 28 October 2011 should be left as it is because that's what it will be known for... the day Chris will finally have to pay the piper (so to speak). "Court Saga" doesn't really sound good simply because this isn't the first time Chris has gone to Court, so unless we insert the other event as well...it just won't work. Would you leave stuff dealing with Ivy or Jackie out of their Sagas? Probably not. I dunno, this is long winded and probably a lot "forum"-y talk, but that's what I think.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:28, 11 April 2012 (PDT)

User talk:4Macie

2012-04-09T17:08:10Z

4Macie: /* PS+ */

{{TOC limit}}
==Hi there!==

[[Image:CWCiki_Introduction.jpg|thumb|300px|Welcome to CWCKI!]]

Welcome to [[CWCki]]! There's a lot to do around here because Chris never does anything himself. I hope you'll stay with us and make many improvements of your own!

:Before you start, be sure to read '''[[A Quick Guide to CWCki]]'''. This will guide you through the dos and don'ts of editing [[CWCki|the world's most accurate wiki]]. Be especially sure to read this if you consider Anonymous to be legion or if you've just come over from [[ED]]. Everything you know is [[lies|wrong]].

:'''[[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]''' is a great first stop, because you can see what other people are editing right this minute, and where you can help.

:If you're looking for things to do, check out the '''[[CWCki:Priority Listing|priority listing]]''' for things that need to be done, or join a '''[[CWCki:Projects|project]]'''.

:If you haven't already, create a '''[[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]''' about yourself! If you do, we'll be able to know you better as a member of our community. Just don't upload gigantic pictures of yourself and your favorite anime. I warn against this only because it's happened before.

:'''Questions?''' Please read the [[Frequently Asked Questions|FAQ]] first. Later, you can ask in the '''[[CWCki:Community_Portal|Community Portal]]''' or on the "discussion" page associated with each article, join the live chat in our [[Sonichu (IRC)|IRC channel]] or post a message on [[User talk:4Macie|my talk page]]!

:Once again, welcome to CWCki!
{{clear}}

--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:04, 25 August 2011 (PDT) I never got one...so I gave one to myself :3
 
:''[walks into Macie's bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' Get out of bed! Get out of bed! Snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle... ''[pokes Macie with snuffle. Macie jumps out of bed and lands on her butt.]'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 19:44, 11 January 2011 (PST)

== You have a nice butt ==

''[slaps Macie on the butt]'' I love your butt...and your legs, too. --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 07:10, 3 February 2011 (PST)

== PS3 and PSN (answer if you dare) ==

Well, I guess the PS3 or PSN (I don't own either so it's one or the other) is going offline for maintenance for 12 or more hours... What will Chris do?!?! Will this be the day he comes back to the internet? [[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 11:27, 9 March 2011 (PST)
:it just means he can't play games online, which he rarely does anyway because he's scared of trolls or whatever. it's even been a few days since he logged into LBP to delete all the negative comments -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 12:03, 9 March 2011 (PST)
:: Ah, so it's the PSN then, not the whole PS3. Hmmm... Well I was kinda hoping something interesting was going to happen... that stinks. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:06, 9 March 2011 (PST)
::Thing is, Chris doesn't have a computer, so if he had no PS3 access he couldn't even record a video. The PSN being down is the best case. Still, I wouldn't hold your breath. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 9 March 2011 (PST)
::: Ah man... you guys just keep bursting my bubble...Well just so you know, I think I will hold my breath. :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:26, 9 March 2011 (PST)

== Story ==

What it is? [[User:Maraakate|Maraakate]] 14:47, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

I guess I can always post the Mails here:

My troll friend first started off by calling Chris and leaving a voicemail saying that she was a certain person and that this certain person was very angry that there was name dropping in youtube videos and that Chris said they had a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship. She didn't want him to know any of her information so she was going to have him talk through her friend who didn't care/know who he was. The 2 voicemails were actually not that "scary". I don't have the audio but I have the scripts she used and there was really nothing mentioned except that "she" was angry for him name dropping and the whole "ex" thing and that Tito wasn't the one to eff everything up, he did that all by himself. (EDIT: The only "scary" thing that I've learned that could have been said was that telling someone on youtube that you'll do something to them if they don't give you money is illegal and that he could get in trouble for it. It was only slightly mentioned in the 2nd voicemail...really slightly.)
Here are the messages: (BTW: There's actually a few more that were sent before he responded, but they were through "Jenny"- (Censored)'s friend who was watching out for her. They basically said the same thing as these, just from a Friend's perspective.

8/07/11
Chris, it's (Censored). You need to reply to this because I am SO so so so angry with you and you won't answer your phone calls or voicemails. WE were never anything towards each other, and you calling me your ex and saying my name really piss me off. No apology is going to fix this. This is my friend's youtube page, I'm hesitant to give you ANY of my new information, so if you reply to this, Jenn (Jenny) is going to talk with you to see if you deserve my email or my new phone number. You will definitely not be getting my new address though (I've moved), so don't ask.‬

‪From,‬
‪(Censored) via Jenny's Youtube.‬

8/10/11
Re: We need to talk
‪To (Censored), ‬

‪I have received your voicemails; I rarely check my voicemails, because most of my incoming calls are from Trolls, or otherwise people who look to mock me, including "789chan". I have created a video retracting the statement in question, and I will upload it later today. I used the term loosely as in you are a girl, and you were a friend. I fully understand that we were only friends, even though the feelings were Not mutual between us. ‬

‪For your information, I currently have a woman Sweetheart, who gives me much appreciated respect, and the deep, sweet, romantic emotions between her and me Are Mutual and Truest. So, I do not require your contact information at all. AND She hugs and kisses me back. Unlike you, I feel that you were, and still are, an introverted, dismally depth, unable to give an emotionally truest damn about anyone who offers you care and/or affection, And your phrasings and voice tone are like that from the netherword; TOTALLY SPOOKY! To put it simply, you are easily comparable to Daria Morgandorfer, but WITHOUT the emotional maturing she was able to acquire later in her series. I would not go out with you even if I did not already have a Sweetest Girlfriend Sweetheart, and even if you did a complete emotional 180, becoming more like Stacy from the Fashion Club. ‬

‪After all that has happened, the feelings between you and I are FINALLY Mutual; we are old, elder spirits who feel little but spite for each other. ‬

‪I will admit that while we WERE friends, it WAS nice. But THIS is NOW. ‬

‪And so, Adios. ‬

‪Sincerely, ‬
‪Christian Weston Chandler.‬

:While I guess there's little reason to doubt you, do you have unaltered screencaps of the messages? I take it this was over youtube, and that would probably be enough for this to be considered legitimate, unless the rules have changed in my absence or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 18:17, 10 August 2011 (PDT)
::* LIke I've stated before, I suck at computer stuff (my troll friend is not much better...she let me into her youtube account so I could get this, I don't know how to get to the original she sent, but there is the script she wrote on I could try to get a copy of...Let's see if this works....I'm assuming I have to "upload" it straight to the CWCki right? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:06, 10 August 2011 (PDT)
::::*I did it...I think. [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Screen_shot_2011-08-10_at_10.01.05_PM.png] The "title" is really long and weird, hope you can change it if necessary. Feel free to censor anything that needs to be censored. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

== Hair Quote ==

Do you have a link to the source for that quote on your user page from Chris regarding his hair? I can't find it on the CWCki or on the [[Sonichu Girls]] forum. It'd be great to add a link (dump of posts, just like was done with the [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia#Posts|TToV posts]]) to the [[hair]] and/or Sonichu Girls page. – [[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] ([[User_talk:BrianBash|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/BrianBash|cont]]) 22:16, 21 August 2011 (PDT)

== Durp de durp ==

Point in which it was noted (In Da Update btw) that the video was uploaded by a third party: 03:41, 28 August 2011

Point in which you started the discussion on the talk page: 07:34, 28 August 2011

So you're wrong. And by the way, I was editing the CWCki for well over a year before you even though about joining. This isn't my first account. --[[User:Dinglebear|Dinglebear]] 11:01, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

== PS+ ==

Something to keep in mind when calculating prices is that Chris is subscribed to Playstation Plus, which provides discounts and free games. Rayman 3, for instance, was available for about $7.99 on PS+ when Chris got it. When you are adding the price for a game Chris got, be sure to look it up on [http://blog.us.playstation.com/tag/playstation-store/ here], by comparing the time Chris got the game to the appropriate week to see if it was at a discount or given away. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:59, 9 April 2012 (PDT)
*I understand that, and thank you. But I believe it was already discussed that we can go with the listed value as we know that there are things that will never be discovered; like all his memory cards, game cards, and other little things like that that can cost $5 a piece or more. In the end, we are still WAY behind... and if we really want to get picky accurate, what about Chris's little scheme where he buys a lower priced game at Store A and then 'returns it' to a higher priced Store B to actually 'earn money'? Of course he usually gets store credit..but you get the idea. I thank you for your concern, but I think 9.99 vs 7.99 isn't all that different when compared to what we know he's bought but don't know the price...All in all, I think we have an under-exaggerated number of the money Chris has spent.... even when we price things at store price without the discounts he could get. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:08, 9 April 2012 (PDT)

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4Macie: none of the vita game purchases has been added (and added rayman game at 9.99) over $6,000 and that's just documented purchases over a few years...

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28 October 2011

2012-04-08T06:00:33Z

4Macie: /* Civil suit */ while a lot can be said about Protection orders, I think that until we decide how in-depth we wanna get with them, having just this little thing would be good

{{clear}}
[[File:GuiltyInnocense.jpg|thumb|[[TRUE and HONEST]] artist's depiction.]]
On '''28 October 2011''' - a date which will live in infamy - [[The GAMe PLACe]] was suddenly and deliberately attacked by forces of the City of [[CWCville]].

On that fateful Friday evening, around 5:20 p.m.<ref>Based on metadata from Chris's photos</ref>, [[Chris]] and [[Barbara]] visited the GAMe PLACe and had an altercation with its [[manajerks|manager]], [[Michael Snyder]]. Chris took several photos of Michael on that day, and uploaded them to the [[CWCki]] in November. A bit of a delay, but it turns out, he and Barb had been [[jerkop|arrested]] and jailed for various offenses (trespassing, assault, and hit & run). Now both have been charged with a Class 5 Felony, which implies "a '''term of imprisonment of not less than one year''' nor more than 10 years, and ... a fine of not more than $2,500."<ref>http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/18.2-10.HTM</ref>

Both Chris and Barb were bonded out on 29 October<ref>https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=47000&agency=228&id=323013&searchType=offender</ref><ref>https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=47000&agency=228&id=125674&searchType=offender</ref>, with Chris's initial hearing being a week later than Barb's - possibly owing to the extra charge against him. It may also allow for additional information to be gathered about on his record of dealings with Michael Snyder and the GAMe PLACe, and also to consider any [[autism|medical grounds]] that may affect the outcome of any court proceedings against Chris. The Chandlers will be represented in court by [[Wikipedia:Robert B. Bell|Rob Bell]], a Republican member of the Virginia House of Delegates.

This is the first major event that has come to light since the death of [[Bob Chandler]] on 6 [[September 2011]].

== The charges ==
Below are the charges brought against both Barbara and Chris, along with details and court dates based on the details from the [http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/captchaVerification.do?landing=landing General District Court Online Case Information System]. At present we do not have a full account of what happened during the incident and under what circumstances the charges were brought against the pair. However, based on at least one previous incident in [[June 2010]], we can assume a rough outline of events.

===Barbara's===
* '''FAIL STOP ACCIDENT > $1000 FEL''' (§ 46.2-894. Duty of driver to stop, etc., in event of accident involving injury or death or damage to attended property; penalty.<ref name="a">http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-894</ref>)
** Class 5 Felony charge - Failing to stop after an accident where the damage exceeds $1,000 in value, thought to be vehicular damage on the grounds of The GAMe PLACe parking lot.
* '''ASSLT: ON LAW ENF/DOC PERSON''' (§ 18.2-57. Assault and battery.<ref name="b">http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-57</ref>)
** Class 6 Felony charge - Assaulting a law enforcement official. It's likely that this occurred when Barb attempted to prevent the police from arresting Chris.

==== Court dates ====
* 31 October 2011 - Appeared in court to be formally charged.
* 15 December 2011 - 1:00pm - Judge Robert Downer Jr. granted a continuance for both Chris and Barb's charges.
* 5 January 2012 - 1:00pm - Yet another continuance.
* 5 April 2012 - 1:00pm - Another hearing. Both felonies go to a grand jury at Circuit Court.
* 16 April 2012 - 9:30am - To be presented to the grand jury on both felony charges.

===Chris's===
* '''FAIL STOP ACCIDENT > $1000 FEL''' (§ 46.2-894. Duty of driver to stop, etc., in event of accident involving injury or death or damage to attended property; penalty.<ref name="a" />)
** Class 5 Felony charge - Failing to stop after an accident where the damage exceeds $1,000 in value, thought to be vehicular damage on the grounds of The GAMe PLACe parking lot.
* '''ASSAULT: (MISDEMEANOR)''' (§ 18.2-57. Assault and battery.<ref name="b" />)
** Class 1 Misdemeanor charge - Attempted or actual assault against another person, perhaps [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]].
* '''TRESPASS AFTER FORBIDDEN''' (§ 18.2-119. Trespass after having been forbidden to do so; penalties.<ref>http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-119</ref>)
** Class 1 Misdemeanor charge - Trespassing on land or within an area from which the offender is forbidden, no doubt due to setting foot in The GAMe PLACe.

==== Court dates ====
* 7 November 2011 - Appeared in court to be formally charged.
* 15 December 2011 - 1:00pm - Judge Robert Downer Jr. granted a continuance (postponement) for both Chris and Barb's charges.
* 5 January 2012 - 1:00pm - Yet another continuance.
* 5 April 2012 - 1:00pm - Another hearing. [[Wikipedia:Nolle prosequi|Nolle prosequi]] on the trespass and assault; the failure to stop goes to Circuit Court.
* 16 April 2012 - 9:30am - To be presented to the grand jury on felony charge.
== Civil suit ==
Michael Snyder also filled a civil suit against both Chris and Barb on 1 November 2011, 4 days after the incident.
The reason for the lawsuit and what damages are being sought is currently unknown besides that it is related to the 28 October event. Barb attended a second hearing on 14 November, a third took place on 15 December, at the same time as her criminal case hearing, and a fourth occurred on 5 January at 1:00 PM.

Chris' case at one point read 'Other Judgement', however, it appears to have been open again. Presumably, Chris appeared again in court on 5 January at 2:15 PM, shortly after his criminal hearing.

Before the court hearing, Michael Snyder requested and received a Preliminary Protective Order against both Chris and Barbara. This order is similar to a restraining order, and prohibits Chris or Barb from contacting Michael or engaging in any threatening behavior towards him before the hearing. The order lasts for 15 days.<ref>http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/victims/documents/podomesticviolence.pdf</ref>

On April 5th, Snyder was awarded full Protection Orders against both Chris and Barbara. A Protection Order can last up to two years and violation of the Protection Order can result in both civil and criminal charges.

== Aftermath ==
[[File:Card.PNG|thumb|Chris's only chance.]]

* On 4 November, soon after being bailed out of jail, Chris uploaded the pictures he took of Michael Snyder on the 28th to the CWCki, plastering them on the front page as well as Michael's own article, with Chris presumably doing it as a response to the events at The GAMe PLACe.<ref>[[Special:Contributions/Christianchandler]]</ref> In the respective image descriptions, Chris claimed that Snyder molests children and taunted him for his [[obesity]].
{{-}}

In the February Facebook leaks, Chris stated 'After October 28, 2011; I now have TOTAL Disrespect and Miscontent of the soo-called "Officers of the Badge"' as opposed only to those in colours other than blue and black. He also produced 50 copies of a flyer calling the Game Place a "Cyber bullies' hang-out" and encouraging people to stay far away which he then left around his usual attraction locations. This led to another run in with [[Jerkops]], in which Chris escaped by "hiding and weaving around the parked cars" and by driving a Mistubishi as opposed to [[Son-Chu]].

==Email?==
Someone purporting to be in contact with Chris leaked an email, supposedly from the manbaby himself, shedding some light on the events of October 28. While the validity of the email is disputed, [[Surfshack Tito]] confirmed on [[/cwc/]] that the events of October 28 are basically the same as that described in the email.

http://pastebin.com/Tm9EMppU

Particularly telling is Chris stating that Michael Snyder wanted to lure him in with an announcement of a "Pokemon tournament on the 22nd", despite Michael himself saying [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA in this video] ''(that Chris himself used as proof)'' that he ''really'' hoped that Chris didn't show up.

== Photos ==
<gallery>
File:HNI 0020.JPG|Chris's photo of The GAMe PLACe; note that everyone is looking at the camera
File:HNI 0021.JPG|Chris's photograph of Michael Snyder
File:HNI 0022.JPG|Chris's second photograph of Michael Snyder
File:28 Oct 2011 Barb1.png|Barb's failure to stop felony charge
File:28 Oct 2011 Barb2.png|Barb's felony assault on a police officer charge
File:28 Oct 2011 Chris1.png|Chris's failure to stop felony charge
File:28 Oct 2011 Chris2.png|Chris's misdemeanor assault charge
File:28 Oct 2011 Chris3.png|Chris's trespass misdemeanor charge
File:Chriscivil29.png|Michael Snyder's civil suit against Chris
File:Barbcivil29.png|Michael Snyder's civil suit against Barbara
File:PO-BARB.png|Michael Snyder's protection order against Barb.
File:PO-CHRIS.png|Michael Snyder's protection order against Chris.
</gallery>

==Fan Art ==
<gallery>
File:Chris mug.jpg|Artist's depiction of Chris's mugshot.
File:Chris joker.jpg| Why so serious?
File:TheJoker.png|Oh dear...
File:Chris court sketch.png| An artist provides a theoretical court sketch.
File:RAPSHT-P1.jpg| An artist compiled Chris's crimes onto a rap sheet. (Page 1/2)
File:RAPSHT-P2.jpg| An artist compiled Chris's crimes onto a rap sheet. (Page 2/2)
</gallery>

==References==
<references />

== See also ==
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]

[[Category:Events]]
[[Category:The GAMe PLACe]]

Talk:28 October 2011

2012-04-06T21:59:33Z

4Macie: /* Protection Order */ new section

{{Not A Forum}}
== Proposed article ==

This is my proposed solution to how we manage and collect information pertaining to the events of October 28th 2011.

To-do:
* Add categories
* Add more verifiable information
* <s>Screencap the pages from the court website for preservation.</s>

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: Do we have a field agent that can attend the court hearing? That should give us the entire story behind all of this --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 13:15, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: I live 2 hours away, my company pays my gas, and if I am not too busy with a lady, I could attend this court hearing if given the proper location of the hearing. [[User:Dickbuns|Dickbuns]] 02:31, 26 February 2012 (PST)

Shouldn't it be mentioned this is the first (major) event since Bob died? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:43, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Is it noteworthy enough to note that their arraignments (or the time that the defendants are told of their crimes and to take guilty or not guilty pleas) have come to pass and according to their records, they are listed as "continued" which in this case means that they probably pled "not guilty" and are now facing their day in court? The only other explanation of "continued" being listed that I found was this, "continued in court cases generally means that they (defendant) plead 'not guilty' or that a plea deal/plea bargain is in the works". I just thought it'd be a note worthy fact-- that they are either planning a deal, or that they think they are not guilty. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:46, 7 November 2011 (PST)
:The article is already rife with speculation, and until we see court documents or other documents - we don't know the exact circumstances surrounding the charges, the pleas given (if any), medical considerations or other reasons for deferral. I'd rather we waited until we could prove the reason for deferral under the "continued" reason before we document it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 7 November 2011 (PST)

===Title===
Shouldn't the title be Americanized? September 11th isn't referred to as 11/9.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:06, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:We have a few articles with titles like this ([[12_October_2009|e.g.]]), so while I don't know if it's "right" or not, much like "Chris's", it's just become a standard. Good eye, though. I didn't catch that it wasn't Americanised. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 16:11, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:I based it on articles like [[6 June 2010]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:: Chris with felonly charges? Ohhh, Santa came early this year, and goddamn, did he deliver~! Anywho; if it was Chris on his own, it might've been dismissed like last time, but with Barb involved too, this is more concrete and serious: I propose that the formal title of the page (or saga, if it comes to that) be the name of the court case (Snyder or People vs Chandler, whatever it may be) when we get it. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:45, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and come to think of it - we Eurofag dates - see [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#When_it_comes_to_dates.2C_be_a_Eurofag|here]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:06, 20 December 2011 (PST)

==x==
Thank you based God [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 16:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Explanation ==

Am I reading this right? Chris got an Assault charge (assumption being it has to do with Snyder) but Barb got one too... but for a police officer, because her day in court was Oct 31, is there any information about what "assault" on the officer she actually did? Does anyone know what "complainant : CASON" means? And where can the stuff about him being in jail for two days be found? (or was this something Chris himself gave out?) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:08, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Edit: ah, the actual trial for the assault isn't until December, so we probably won't find out what she did until then... It was some civil case between her and Snyder that occurred Oct 31-Nov 1--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
** Oct. 31st was her formal arraignment, where I guess they informed her of the charges against her and set a court date for a criminal trial. Whether or not Mr. Snyder will file a civil suit remains to be seen, but somehow I doubt that her wants to have anything more to do with the Chandlers if he can help it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:29, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
***(Messed up original links, but)Snyder's pressing civil charges against both, as both of his civil cases can be seen on the Virginia General District Courts site. Also, assault can be something as simple as a verbal threat, don't know if that was the case here, but it's something to keep in mind. [[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:36, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

== Who paid bail? ==

Is there any way to find out who paid bail? Most likely it was one of his extended family, but still. --[[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 01:33, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
*It could have also been a bondsman, which is pretty likely. That's their whole business. --[[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:38, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

==Civil Charges==
Anyone have any addition info about the civil charges from Mike? http://i.imgur.com/Fz281.png It says they were in court on Nov 1st but the case is listed as "Other Judgement" and a lot of the other fields are empty. Did Mike drop the case? --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 18:12, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*Saw this on /cwc/, it says [http://www.facebook.com/Newsplex/posts/10150348599173564 here] a person was injured, it could have been Mike. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 22:56, 10 November 2011 (PST)
* We still await more concrete and reliable sources about the exact series of events. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:29, 11 November 2011 (PST)

==Chris's defense?==

Not sure if the Autism card will completely save him this time, espectially for a felony. But could his years of being trolled actually give him a valid claim of "harassment". There certainly is an ocean of information posted online about him, much of which is blatant insults towards him. Any chance the CWCki could get in any sort of trouble for instigating these actions by Chris?

Also, may want to bring up that psych evaluation he had back in 2004 when he was kicked out of school. Could that prove any insight to his reasoning behind this incident; and could it maybe help/hurt his case?--[[User:Jcrowley1985|Jcrowley1985]] 19:36, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* No. As far as I can tell, Chris using trolls and/or the CWCki as a reason for violating a restraining order is not going to cut it. I know he used it with the last little incident, but any judge with half a brain stem would realize that it's less about internet bullies and more about a 29-year-old man who should know better just ''not getting it''.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 19:59, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* High Functioning Autism wouldn't play a huge role here, simply because it's not a truly debilitating disorder these days, and there is no way a judge would even consider the argument that "trolls" made him do it.... Chris having trolls doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong and illegal. It'll actually be pretty hilarious if he tries to use this site for proof against trolls simply for the fact that there are a lot of things Chris himself has 'donated' to the site that could get him in even more trouble... for example: does Mr.Snyder know that Chris has stated, on the internet, that Snyder is a child molester and has potentially fiddled with his own kids? Yeah, that won't go over too well. The way things are looking, if Chris is found guilty of any of these; he'll see jail/prison time for sure (if only because he will be unable to pay his huge fees and fines) Barb is probably in the same boat. Sadly, another thing to point out is that if they have to get repo-ed to pay for anything, the county will finally have to deal with their horrendous hoarding problem and will probably condemn the house, just as Bob had feared. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:38, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*It all depends on how his lawyer wants to play it. Is Robert Bell acting as a PD for his pro bono work? Either way, I'd bet that either his lawyer is so blase in regards to the situation and/or so overwrought by his other cases that he'll just advise Chris to plead guilty with mitigating circumstances (autism, grief, etc.), or, it's always possible that Robert Bell's a total shark who'll get Chris off with a slap on the wrist, yet again. Of course, there's always the possibility that he'll be committed.
I know Chris and Barb have four cars (one of which is a Jag according to one of the Kacey calls) so they could hock those for some CWC cash (see that thing I did?), and lord knows that Chris and Barb probably have at least, AT LEAST, $2000 worth of useless shit lying around their house, but, somehow, I'm in doubt that Barb'll be able to rouse Chris off of his ass for long enough to get him to help her (and himself).
I've got to admit, I feel sort of sorry for Chris and Barb. Bob just died and lord knows that you never know what you have until it's gone. Their actions are inexcusable, yeah, but still, it's horrible that things have to end this way, if that's what ends up happening. I was, I guess naively, hoping that something would seep through Chris's skull and he'd just gracefully leave the internet and take some steps to improve himself, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. He should thank God that's he's not going to be going to prison if he does have to be incarcerated. He'd get passed around like fucking candy there.

tl;dr Chris is fucked any-which-way [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:18, 6 November 2011 (PST)

: It's worse than that. If Chris is foolish enough to reference this site, he's going to be pointing the court toward evidence that he has no regrets on this incident, since the first thing he did after getting out of jail was to crow about his crimes here. Any decent prosecutor would then dig up his youtube videos, handily linked throughout the site, and reveal that he's got a history of antisocial behavior, the most recent threats and attempted extortion only just predating his father's passing (and thereby casting doubt on grounds for his recent grief).

: His best chance is an insanity plea, which is difficult to prove on people who can communicate more clearly then Chris can. Ironically, the clearest indicators -- his beliefs that his creations are real -- may come off as so ludicrous that the plea might get dismissed.

: Failing that, he'll be extremely lucky to get a plea bargain down to some serious community service and probation. Unfortunately for him, his history with Snyder in specific shows how extraordinarily lenient everyone's already been. Any decent prosecutor will insist on such as part of their arguments, and should Chris' previous proud attempts at vehicular assault enter play, he's almost certainly going to have jail time as part of a plea. Even disregarding that, though, I'd be surprised if Chris actually made any efforts should he get probation and community service, as his history shows he'd ignore both, forcing the issue of jail time.

: Sadly enough, that's actually the extent of the good news for him. The bad news is that Chris' pride and arrogance may lead him to refuse any such pleas -- in his mind, he's neither insane nor has any of his behavior ever been anything less than justified -- and worse, he may even try to represent himself. Should that happen, his only real shot is to have Barb legally declare him as incompetent. While at first blush that sounds like it'd lead to him getting off on insanity after all, it'd rely primarily on Barb's testimony to go through -- and Barb's already supported him enough to be his accomplice.

: The primary factors now on whether Chris is going to jail are his county's prison system, his prosecutor's diligence, and how much ridiculous bullshit Chris serves up in his own defense. If he acts out in court, continues his libelous antics outside of it, or submits anything damaging in his "defense," he screws himself to oblivion. Hell, if Snyder comes here, or if someone contacts him and points him our way, the prosecution would have a field day.

: Quite frankly, this is so stacked against him I'm almost of a mind Barb did this intentionally to try to get the state to take custody of him before she dies, too, sad as it is to say.

: [[User:Kestrel|Kestrel]] 00:25, 7 November 2011 (PST)

*None of this is really relevant to the article, so next person who contributes something that doesn't relate to this article gets banned. You can talk about it elsewhere like on [http://cwcki.yuku.com our forums].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Article Title and Redirects==

We need to get a more fitting title set up as well as some redirects. I'm not sure how, exactly... But something like "Arrest" for a redirect. My creative juices are currently burnt out so I leave this all up to you for tonight.
:The subsection regarding the incident on the GAMe PLACe page called it "Strike Three, You're Out!" Something along those lines, perhaps?--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:16, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:We are a Wiki at the end of the day - and it's less about getting a "fitting" or amusing title, and more about getting a sensible one. I chose this one based on other articles about specific events (mostly significant videos that were not given a particularly unique name by Chris). "Keep It Simple" is the golden rule here, so any renames should be both simple and yet, unique enough for people to be easily able to find it. I'm totally open to better suggestions for the article title though, as I said near the top of this discussion page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 03:17, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Where==
Did someone know exactly where the trial will take place (ie some court on Chalottesville i presume)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 10:25, 7 November 2011
*[http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Charlottesville/home.html Charlottesville Circuit Court] most likely? The circuit court has jurisdiction over all felonies and that is where a jury trial would be held. Unfortunately on their [http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html case lookup] page, that court isn't in the list. [[User:Penman28|Penman28]] 09:55, 8 November 2011 (PST)
*Considering that the charges are filed under "Charlottesville General District Court" I'm gonna guess thats where things are going down. --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 10:49, 8 November 2011 (PST)

== Chris's Account ==

Is it worth mentioning anything about this "CWC Michael Snyder Interview"? I looked it up on youtube and it's originally from 2010; so it's not really recent, nor does it pertain to anything Chris is talking about. He doesn't even say he wants to lore Chris into the Place; he actually says "We have a Pokemon Tournament the 22nd, I really hope Chris doesn't try to show up... That'd be really bad." I guess what I'm getting at is this: would it be worth putting in a small summary about the video Chris is saying will get him off the hook? Or do we just leave it and if people want to see it they can look it up themselves? (I really wish we could get Mr. Snyder's accounts of the happenings as well, just to compare the two.) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 9 November 2011 (PST)

I removed that section since it isn't 100% confirmed to be Chris yet (and in the case he does - he reads the Wiki). If it gets re-added I'd say just link it and add a Wiki page if there isn't already. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:15, 9 November 2011 (PST)

== Removed the email ==

I went ahead and removed the halfsie-confirmed email I posted in the forums, since it's not fully confirmed to be by Chris and just not someone from Inner/PVCC in-the-know (and for the agent's sake). Just reverse if nobody gives a fuck. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:11, 9 November 2011 (PST)
* I do believe that someone said "Tito and champthom just confirmed that some events match up". So maybe keep it but add some kind of disclaimer saying we don't have Christian Weston Chandler's confirmation; but some highly reliable sources can confirm that events match up?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:52, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Either way, the fact that Chris reads the Wiki remains and leaving the email up compromises a field agent, and genereal consensus is on the forums (in that topic) is that we keep it down until later. PVCC trolls have also asked that it doesn't go up yet on /cwc/. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 16:19, 9 November 2011 (PST)

*There is truth to it, I will tell you that, but I'd prefer it if someone can say something solid about it as in "This is from Chris 100%." I suppose we could leave it with a disclaimer that "According to Tito, this is true" so people can interpret it however they'd like, but I'd prefer that we wait until we can get a solid confirmation about it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:50, 9 November 2011 (PST)

** I'm more concerned with it impacting operations. I don't want to interfere with any plans already in play... I say keep it down until we get confirmation that saga is over --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:22, 9 November 2011 (PST)

We do get information such as emails from offical channels, so I support the motion to omit the material that was added from the article for the timebeing until we are sure of a reliable source. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:50, 10 November 2011 (PST)
:This is still our stance for now - we await further verifiable evidence that this account is verbatim what Chris said. /cwc/ and ED are not reliable enough sources. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:29, 17 November 2011 (PST)

== End of the world ==

If Chris is sentenced in December 2011, next month, that means that if he receives the minimum sentence for his felony count, that means that he will get out of prison on December 2012, the same time that the world is supposed to end. How interesting. --[[User:TheJerk|TheJerk]] 12:56, 12 November 2011 (PST)
:Eh - it's sort of interesting in a theoretical way. Speaking of theories - they don't belong on article talk pages. Please use the links at the top of this talk page to find better places for pointing out or discussing similar things. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:48, 12 November 2011 (PST)

== GAME PLACe ==

The PLACe has changed names now, should we be using the new name in this article I think so, or ate least referred to as "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (Formorly The GAMe PLACe)" for accuracy
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 13:44, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:I think in this case, similar to Chris' vs Chris's, established convention ought to take precedence over accuracy. I don't think the majority of people would know what "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" is, and I don't think there's much need for them to know the new name. The rename probably deserves a mention in the relevant article, but I don't think everything needs to be readjusted. If Chris ever starts referring to the store explicitly by its new name, renaming things might make it easier on readers, but until then, I don't think it's really beneficial. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 13:52, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:*Totally agree Freecell. It definitely should be mentioned in the article, but a name change would just complicate things. And for some reason, I have a really weird feeling that Chris would never call it anything other than "The PLACe". --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:51, 22 November 2011 (PST)

== Court Liaison??? ==

Is there anybody who is planning on going to the courthouse on December 15th in order to document Chris and Snorlax's appearances for us? Perhaps a live blog of the proceedings would be in order? Just saying. --[[User:Osideguy92|Osideguy92]] 20:56, 11 December 2011 (PST)
*Check the CWCki Forum.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:03, 12 December 2011 (PST)

== Rob Bell article needed ==

We need to have an article here on the CWCki about Bell's involvement in the court cases. His involvement in all this is too minor for the other sites. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 21:01, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:All we know about him is that he's representing Chris in court. Unless there's more info out there (such as why he's representing Chris; was he court-appointed or hired by Barb) then I don't see why we should give him his own article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:38, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:We already deleted an article that was created for Rob Bell as we currently don't have enough information on him* to warrant a solo article. For now, any things about him relevant to this case can be documented on this article.
:(*and no, this isn't a call for people to go digging for information on him - we should keep all details on the CWCki related to either Chris or the court case.) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:09, 20 December 2011 (PST)
::we know this:
::"Rob Bell is an honors graduate of the University of Virginia and the University of Virginia Law School. At the Law School, Mr. Bell served as the Executive Editor of the Virginia Law Review and was selected for the Order of the Coif.

::Mr. Bell served for five years as a state prosecutor in Orange County, Virginia. During this time he prosecuted thousands of criminal and traffic cases.

::In 2001, Mr. Bell was elected to the Virginia General Assembly as the Delegate from the 58th District. As Delegate, he serves on the Courts for Justice Committee and the Virginia State Crime Commission. He has authored numerous criminal laws, including laws dealing with drunk driving, sex crimes, and criminal procedure.

::Mr. Bell joined Davidson & Kitzmann in 2005 and tries cases in all state and federal courts.

::His wife, his son Robbie, and his daughter Evelyn live in Albemarle County."
::http://www.dklawyers.com/bio_rbell.htm
::and this http://www.nbc29.com/story/16202740/rob-bell-enters-attorney-general-race [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::Cool. Anything on him relevant to Chris? No? Well okay then. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:17, 20 December 2011 (PST)

::::He is Chris's lawyer, he deserves a stub. more info will come.. The actual trial should give us some information. besides http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:ShortPages [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:50, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::::No he doesn't - not a this time. I have spoken. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== Does this saga have a name? ==

If not i would call it the "Attack on C-Ville (or CWC-Ville) saga.. Is this even a saga? it certainly meets what i would think are the criteria. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:14, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* I'd say it's a part of the ongoing GAMe PLACe Saga. --[[User:SonichuLives|SonichuLives]] 13:32, 3 January 2012 (PST)
** ok the reason i ask is that the graphic for the saga page (and the page itself) needs to be updated to include 2012 stuff[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:49, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== So what happened on Jan 5? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 17:06, 6 January 2012 (PST)

== Protection Order ==

Should it be mentioned in the article what the Protection Order does? Or should we just link it to a definition? A Protection Order for Snyder means that Chris will no longer (for the duration of the order) visit Snyder's place of business, Chris will no longer be able to talk with Snyder, he will no longer be allowed to threaten Snyder in any way (even through internet means), and he will not be able to basically do anything else that involves Snyder (this includes using his name on sites like Facebook). IF Chris is caught doing any of these prohibited things, it can be considered a civil OR criminal offense and Chris will be given a jail/prison sentence along with a fine. I'm thinking this is a very important development for the Chris/Snyder relationship; but I'm not sure if we should directly reference the Protection Order in this article. Thoughts? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:59, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

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4Macie: added the prices of three more games that weren't in the equation before.

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2012-03-21T06:04:41Z

4Macie: I'm a sick, sick individual... I decided to find any prices for things we know Chris has bought since the last 'update' (3/1/11) of the "Chris has spent...." long story short, Chris spends a shit-ton

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4Macie: ....I hate Chris so much in these random moments...What the eff is this??

Is this a room in Chris's house? [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 14:56, 20 March 2012 (PDT)
: Not exactly sure, but this is what I can tell you... From what limited background you can see, it'd be safe to assume this picture is hung up (or was hung up) in Chris's room. I'm assuming that this isn't a picture OF Chris's room for several reasons; there's no bed (though with Chris...maybe he forgot), it's not messy as fuck (though again, with Chris...), the floor is wooden (Chris's real room is carpet) with a 'regal'/'presidential' type design on it (again..it's Chris...)and then there's weird presidential pictures hung up (sigh, dammit Chris!).... shit, I guess I have no real reason to believe this isn't a picture of Chris's room...but what I think it is, is a picture of what Chris thinks his Mayor's office in CWCVille looks like. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 22:57, 20 March 2012 (PDT)

PlayStation Vita

2012-03-21T05:49:05Z

4Macie: so you change the small total but not the big total...sigh, I guess I gotta do the long maths now.

{{taxpayermoney}}
Chris got a '''[[wikipedia:PlayStation Vita|PlayStation Vita]]''', successor to the [[PSP of Fail|PSP]], two days after its American release, on his 30th [[birthday]], 24 [[February 2012]]. It also brought his biggest spending splurge for quite some time, as in the weeks after, eleven new games appeared on his PSN account. This suggests that he spent $330.88 on games alone, and with Vita going for $299.99, Chris spent $630.87 (plus tax) at the very least, proving that, with [[Bob]] dead, the [[tugboat]] is Chris's to waste as he pleases.

Chris bought (all prices are estimates):

*''Dungeon Hunter: Alliance'': $35.99
*''Escape Plan'': $14.99
*''Little Deviants'': $29.99
*''[[ModNation Racers]]: [[Ohio trip|Road Trip]]'': $29.99
*''MotorStorm: RC'': $9.99
*''Plants vs. Zombies'': $14.99
*''Rayman Origins'': $39.99
*''[[Reality]] Fighters'': $29.99
*''Lumines Electronic Symphony'': $35.99
*''Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack'': $7.99
*''Uncharted: Golden Abyss'': $44.99
*''Unit 13'': $35.99

Of course, Chris may have availed of multibuy discounts, and probably got one of these games free with the Vita. Against that, it's very likely that he also shelled out for memory card(s), DLC, other games that we haven't seen on PSN yet, etc.

==See also==
*[[PSP of Fail]]
*[[PS3]]
*[[Sony]]
*[[Chris and money]]
{{Relics of Fail}}
[[Category:Relics of Fail]]

PlayStation Vita

2012-03-17T04:44:05Z

4Macie: added prices

{{taxpayermoney}}
Chris got a '''PlayStation Vita''', successor to the [[PSP of Fail|PSP]], two days after its American release, on his 30th [[birthday]], 24 [[February 2012]]. It also brought his biggest spending splurge for quite some time, as in the weeks after, ten new games appeared on his PSN account, suggesting that he spent $294.89 on theses games alone, and with the new vita at roughly $299.99, Chris spent $594.88, proving that, with [[Bob]] dead, the [[tugboat]] is Chris's to waste as he pleases.

*''Escape Plan'': $14.99
*''Little Deviants'': $29.99
*''[[ModNation Racers]]: [[Ohio trip|Road Trip]]'': $29.99
*''MotorStorm: RC'': $9.99
*''Plants vs. Zombies'': $14.99
*''Rayman Origins'': $39.99
*''[[Reality]] Fighters'': $29.99
*''Lumines Electronic Symphony'': $35.99
*''Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack'': $7.99
*''Uncharted: Golden Abyss'': $44.99
*''Unit 13'': $35.99
(Note these prices are noted from GameStop and may be slightly different than what Chris paid for them)

==See also==
*[[PSP of Fail]]
*[[PS3]]
*[[Sony]]
*[[Chris and money]]
{{Relics of Fail}}
[[Category:Relics of Fail]]

Talk:PlayStation Vita

2012-03-17T04:37:48Z

4Macie: /* Purchase Totals */ It's really really really close to $600, so whoever guessed that, great job!

== Purchase Totals ==

Okay, I'm curious, does anyone know how much all of this would cost altogether? The page suggests $600 USD, but I would feel better with an actual amount. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:30, 16 March 2012 (PDT)
*The overall total will never be exact or "actual" because we do not know the exact amount each game costed Chris. I did some research using GameStop and Amazon and found a rough average of all the game totals, I will list them individually here (Note, some will be different as there is a "buy in store", "buy online", and "download" options that have different price listings):
:Escape Plan: $14.99
:Little Deviants: $29.99
:ModNation Racers: Road Trip: $29.99
:MotorStorm: RC: $9.99
:Plants vs. Zombies: $14.99
:Rayman Origins: $39.99
:Reality Fighters: $29.99
:Lumines Electronic Symphony: $35.99
:Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack: $7.99
:Uncharted: Golden Abyss: $44.99
:Unit 13: $35.99

:So, the total comes to roughly: $294.89 on the games alone. A new vita can cost roughly $299.99...so he roughly spent $594.88...which is really really really close to the guessed $600. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:37, 16 March 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007

2012-03-10T15:21:07Z

4Macie:

Order is messed up for a couple of these... was it done for a specific reason, or does it need to be fixed? You can tell they are out of order because of the email time stamps. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:10, 10 March 2012 (PST)
:Screw it, I'm changing it. If someone has a problem with it they can just re-do it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:21, 10 March 2012 (PST)

Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007

2012-03-10T15:20:11Z

4Macie: /* E-mails */ fixed their orders..yeah, it's not blue-red-blue-red anymore, but at least it's chronologically correct...

The following is a transcript of the known e-mails exchanged by [[Megan]] and [[Chris]] from August through December [[2007]]. The only thing that has been removed are the email ads at the bottom of each page.

Megan's e-mails are in pink, Chris's in light blue.
==E-mails==
===Adam Stackhouse wins, Chris is a horrible cheater and likes Megan "so much"===

{{quotebox|−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 9:08:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time 
Subject: Well, I'm emotionally busted... :(

I just learned that I am not the [[Adam Stackhouse|winner]] of the [[PaRappa]] [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|Chop Chop Master Onion Contest]]; among their ten [[videos]], they were organized Alphabetically (I checked the html source, and that explained why I was number 7. Anyway, that lucky jerk, admstackhouse (assumed to be his e-mail name), gets to go to Seattle. That SOB should have really been disqualified; his dance was supposed to be MUSIC-FREE, yet he has some s***y beatbox noises in the background throughout his video (so did two others).

I am [[Chris and Anger|Angry]], Depressed and Lonesome ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY. I worked so d*** hard; I sent like over 500 messages between [[MySpace]], [[PSN|Playstation Network]] and AOL. And I even made up over 120 dummy e-mail accounts to match with their dummy Playstation accounts, so I could stuff the f***in' ballot...

I really wanted to take you somewhere fun and exciting so you and I could be together for longer than usual...and I really wanted to give you and [[John]] each a [[PSP]]... *sigh* I've [[fail]]ed. So much effort...rappin' and dancin' with goofy effects to be even considered...spreading the word as far and wide as possible...wasted. And I did it all for you, Megan; I had you in my heart as I chopped the Onion A-La Mode dance...I gave so much energy, even had a gut virus for a couple of days...crazy I guess.

Anyway, I'm not in such a delighful mood at this time; it may take a few days or so for me to recover...then again, you make me feel happy...I just realized that you were and still are a continuing inspiration for me. I looked at you in our photo ever since you left for Kentucky, and I get a happy feeling... from the feeling of having you to fall on when I feel low. You are such a delightful listener, and you are truly intelligent when you talk about what interests you and such. I am so delighted to have you in my life, and I appreciate you everyday. <3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Oh, so what if I didn't win that trip; I still can look forward to being able to coming over to your house, or you to mine, sometime. And I will get to see you at least on Fridays (although I'd like to be able to be with you much more than that). I like you so much, Megan.

As for the what happened at [[the Game Place]]; it was so-so, and I didn't get any [[Soul Calibur]] [[cards]] today. Although from my monthly tugboat, I did get the new [[Guitar Hero]] game and the PS1 classic, [[Wikipedia:UmJammer Lammy|UmJammer Lammy]], some ink for my printer, a bunch of slim cd and [[DVD]] cases and a 4GB memory stick duo.

Although I'm certain you have oodles of stories of your days in Kentucky, and I truly look forward to listening to you telling me about them. :)

Thank you, Megan, for being my continuing inspiration. I hope you all are doing well, and I await your safe and sound return. Take care.

Faithfully yours; Chris Chan.}}

===Chris hopes to make Adam Stackhouse lose by a loophole in the rules===
{{quotebox|
−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 8:13:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time 
Subject: Dearest Megan,

Yesterday, after some rest, I still felt [[Chris and Anger|anger]] and resentment against that [[Adam Stackhouse|lucky S.O.B. winner]]. But I have found two faults in his video that were against the official rules; there was music, and there was more than one person in the video. I also found three more out of the remaining nine with the similar violations. I have sent some e-mails among the Playstation consumer services, and I have called the company personally and registered my grand complaint. It's not a matter of jealousy or loss; it's the principal of rule violations. Justice will be done to the seven people involved in the four violating videos, or I am not [[Autism|Autistic]].

Anyway, I wanted to let you know about that. I hope you all are still doing well in Kentucky, and I will truly feel so much better when I see you personally in front of me [[Chris and sex|safe and sound]]. :)

Faithfully yours; Chris Chan. <3<3<3}}

===Shit hits the fan, Chris confesses his love===
{{quotebox|
−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 2:51:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time 
Subject: OUCH....My Heart...

Megan, sweetie, [[List of Chris's lies|I NEVER said anything about you being my "girlfriend"]]; in the video, I said, "The only song I know is 'Master Onion' which I got from a demo I borrowed from my friend, Megan. I truly care about your feelings, and I am 500 times sorry... :_( I meant what all I did when I talk about you to be complimentive and flattering, not the contrary. I was only trying to make you happy.

I NEVER meant any [[Chris and rape|"sexual harrassment"]]; granted that [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|I have had one or two fantasies before]], but I sincerely would NEVER intentionally do anything of the sort to you without your consent. You mean SOOOOOO much to me... As youu are aware, I'm guessing, I do not have many [[gal pal|gal-pals]] in or around [[Charlottesville]], and I treasure having you in my life, and as my closest, sweetest friend I could ever have in this one-hores, [[Virgina is for Virgins|VIRGIN-ONLY STATE]]. If I lost you... it would [[Heart level|TOTALLY SHATTER my heart]], my soul, my being. I CAN NOT AFFOARD to lose you; I need you. Having you in my life, and as my gal-pal, is essentally wkat keeps me from reverting to a sad, lonely, depressed, apocolyptic state, like I have expierenced before when that witch of [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], SHATTERED MY HEART AND SOUL when I was searching for a [[boyfriend-free girl|BOYFRIEND-FREE]], caring, [[Tobacky|smoke-free]], [[Alcohol|non-alcoholic]], white girl to be my friend, and over time maybe grow into a [[sweetheart|SWEETHEART]]. Even right now, as I type this E-mail, I feel like I have been torn vertically into two, and I am typing on a keyboard that has been turned upwardly crooked from being banged against a raised knee... It really hurts...

I will remove the video from the [[internet]] soon as per your request, and I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want you and me to still be friends. And as much as I truly understand how you feel about romance and love, I can't deny the feelings in my heart... I MISSED YOU SOOOOO MUCH; I would look at our [[Chris and religion|sacred photo]] every night, and I would feee soooo much happier, because I have you as my one-and-only, single-solitary, once-in-a-lifetime-like, gal-pal. And I would wonder how you were getting along and faring in Kentucky, and I would hope to get to see you again in front of me soon... Megan... [[Love Quest|I love ou]].

I gotta go.

Faithfully yours; Christian W. Chandler.}}

===Megan is annoyed and creeped out===
{{quoteboxred|
−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
To: CWCSonichu@aol.com Cc: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:42 am 
Subject: .....

Christian-

I haven't been checking my email until recently, and I just want to say that your [[Chris and psychology|behavior has irritated me]] for the last time. First I'll start off with saying that I'm glad you didn't win the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|contest]] because I have no interest in going on a trip alone with someone who can't keep his hands off me. I'm not your girlfriend and I never will be. When I say "don't touch me" that means DON'T TOUCH ME! What may seem friendly to you is [[Fuck Quest|sexual harrassment]] to me. You whine that you're just being friendly but you obviously have no consideration for my feelings. The way you went off on Nina because she patted me on the head was very rude and uncalled for. Just because someone else has made physical contact with me doesn't give you the authority to do so. Remember, I have the right to decide who can come near me.

Also I can't say I like how you used my photo in your video and on the cover of your comic book. I want them removed from the internet immediately. Since I'm not a myspace member I can't view what you post. If there are any photos of me on your blog I want them removed.

And I don't like your [[Megan Shrine|"Megan Obsession"]] I don't like being [[Sailor Megtune|a character]] in your [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]]. I don't like how you made me a character in [[Soul Calibur|Soulcalibur]] and [[Animal Crossing]]. That kind of behavior really freaks me out.

With all that said, we're down to two options: 
A: We remain friends and ONLY friends period. As in no more touching me, following me, asking me personal questions, and giving me things. We can still battle and trade cards and talk. 
-or- 
B: Never see me again

I'm sorry it's come down to this but I've told you repeatedly in a nice way to stop, but you've never listened.

I hope you will finally take what I just said into serious consideration, and know now that if try your advances again I won't be very nice about it.

Please listen to me next time 
~Megan}}

===Chris begs Megan not to leave him===
{{quotebox|
−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: cwcsonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:55 am 
Subject: Hey.

I took care of the video; I edited the original video by removing the pic, then I uploaded the new to repace the old. So your face is not in there anymore.

I was depressed ALL DAY from those harsh words, but I'm not blaming you. I can only guess something unexpected happened that wasn't in favor. I apologize if I have offended you in any way. Please don't leave me, Sweet Friend, Megan.

Faithfully yours;

Chris Chan.}}

===Chris says he's not angry or jealous of Adam Stackhouse anymore===
{{quotebox|
−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 3:46 pm 
Subject: I now understand.

I understand the possible irriation from being touched, but I now realize what may have set off the [[Chris and Anger|burst of anger]]. It was because of my immature behavior (with jealousy) over the winner of that contest, wasn't it? I wanted you to know that I have honestly given up on that erronious behavior. I do apologize for having expressed that anger, and I offer a peaceful [[rainbow]] as my promise to not get jealous and express such anger again.

You, Megan, truly are an inspiration for the better, even a neccessary "better half", for me. I thank you for leading me toward the light of better judgement.

I hope to see you again soon. <3<3<3<3

Faithfully yours; Chris Chan. :)}}

===Chris continues to beg Megan not to leave===
{{quotebox|
−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 8:27:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time 
Subject: Hey...How you doing?

It's been a while, and I haven't heard anything from you. So I thought I would check in.

I can only imagine what your may be feeling from the recent trauma. I truly care and worry about you. I wanted you to know that I blurted out my confession, because [[Heart level|my heart was hit so bad]], that it [[Sex doll|sprung a leak]]... it leaked pain, torment and the deep feelings I had held in for so long. *sigh*

I can't apologize enough for hurting you the way I did with my jealously over the [[Adam Stackhouse|rule-violating winner]], for my lonely, [[Chris and sex|wandering hands]] wanting to feel your gentle, and spunky, soul, for figiting over such trivial gestures that some others were permitted to share with you, whereas you wouldn't permit me to for your reasons... Not knowing your current feelings, not knowing what else is going on in your world, not knowing if you and I are still the closest friends to have been for almost two whole years... is all a great weight on my still-recovering heart and my tearful soul... It's hard for me to enjoy things as I did while I knew you and I were sweet friends, and as I felt there could have been a strong foundation for my one bright future in this [[Autism|cursed Autistic life]]. But since I read that message last week and not having heard anything new from you, my faith for that future felt sooo lost; my faith in our friendship wained thin.

[[Virgin with rage|I CAN'T LOSE YOU, Megan Schroeder]], you are the foundation of my happiness after the depression from my LONG, ENDURING [[Love Quest]], you are the inspiration for me to carry on as I was able to for the past greater than a year and so on, you were the reason that I was able to shed fewest tears for that time.

Please, please, please, forgive me, let me know that you and I are still the closest friends, and don't deprive you and me of our fun by boycotting the Friday trips to [[the Game Place]].

Truly, I just would fall into an infinite sink-hole of depression if I lost you from my life, and it would be an unbearable tragedy... *sigh*

Please reply as soon as possible.

<3<3<3.....<3........<.....3................

Christian Weston Chandler.}}

===Chris talks about another contest and his ENDURING LOVE QUEST===
{{quotebox|
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Subject: Hey, Megan 
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:09 pm 
Attachments: Patti-Chan_Folklore_plus_details.jpg (238K), Patti-Chan_Folklore.jpg (111K)

I didn't get a chance to tell you, but it was truly good to see that you all got back safe from Kentucky...I truly did miss you. Also it is a weight off my shoulders to hear from you that we are still good friends.

Anyhoo, how did John do in his Mechanics class; what was his grade and such? How was your stay in Kentucky? And have you been practicing your [[Guitar]] skills on your PS2? *I hope you got better. :)

Also, a few weeks ago, I learned about the Folklore Create-A-Creature contest on the Playstation website; make up a unique creature suitable for the Fantasy world of the upcoming [[PS3]] game, write up the details of the character and send in the .jpg file. Five will be chosen, among whom will win a copy of the PS3 game and a matching artwork book, and Only One will be programmed into a upcoming Downloable-from-the-Playstation-Store Add-On where the creature will be catchable and playable in the game. Simply put, I sent in [[Patti-Chan]] (see image below). Speaking of [[Patti]], cute-like story, it was June 27, 2007, the date of the first year anniversary since her accent to heaven. On that date, neither of us realizing the anniversary yet, but my mother talked about going to the local SPCA building and adopting a new dog. That night, I realized it upon a Random Remembering, and I cried for a while, so did my mother after I had informed her. But we did realize that we talked about adopting a new dog on the date of the first anniversary. Bless her soul.

Well, like I said, I will be returing to the [[University of Virginia|UVA's Alderman Library]] twice a week starting Sept. 4 to resume my Sweetheart Search (AKA [[Love Quest]]). *sigh* It will be lonely, torturing and enduring like it has been in the past, but I have my dream of a lil' [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]]. And the movies and games on my PSP will give me something else to think about as I go back to wishin', hopin', and prayin' to be found by an "18-25-Year Old, caring, sweet, smoke-free, non-alcoholic, white girl" (hopefully a virgin) "to make into a Sweetheart from the Ground-Up". And at the end of each lonely wait, I will quote my old [[random access humor|joke]] of a commercial, "Call Right Now, and we'll send you a Beautiful Girlfriend FREE". Then I will pretend to call RIGHT NOW, and always get BUPKIS. *sigh* Whatever.

One more thing, while I'm thinking about it, are you finished with the [[Wikipedia:Pokémon Ranger|Pok'emon Ranger]] DS game yet, because I still remember our deal?

Well, take care you all; I'll see you all again next Friday.

Your Friend; Chris Chan.}}

===Megan is going to give Chris some stuff, appreciates him backing off===
{{quoteboxred|
From: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
To: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
Cc: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
Subject: hey 
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 5:37 pm

That's odd...according to my yahoo sent items folder it was sent. 
It pretty much said how I had all the unwanted cards. And I am looking for 3 cards now since you somehow figured out Revenant was on that list as well. Dang you're good! The [[Wikipedia:Universal Fighting System|UFS cards]] I'm looking for are these: Manas & Ayas (note I think the card spells it "Ayus" which is different from the game's spelling) It's from the first SC expansion Voldo (from the first exp. 4 dots, standing upright, arms crossed) Voldo (a promo card, back facing us, butt visible, the image is an official namco drawing) And I'm also really looking for ANYTHING on the StreetFighter character [[Wikipedia:Vega (Street Fighter)|Vega]]. And one more thing, a Promo card of R. Mika. (I think the picture- she has her arms in the air.) And that's it. I hope you get lucky! Not saying you would but please don't start a R.Mika deck...I worked hard and hate being copied. You stick with the Greek Girls!

I also said how I'm doing a major room clean and can give you things I don't want. I'm still finding more stuff but so far I have: 
Absolute Boyfriend poster 
figurine of Primera from the series [[Wikipedia:Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle|Tsubasa Chronicle]] 
[[Wikipedia:Tokyo Boys & Girls|Tokyo Boys and Girls]] vol.1 (manga) 
[[Wikipedia:Someday's Dreamers|Someday's Dreamers: Spellbound]] vol.1 (manga) 
a [[My Little Pony]] badge/button/pin thing 
Some more extra [[Sailor Moon|Sailormoon]] cards

I'm sure I'll find more stuff, let me know if you want any and all of the above. In exchange for whatever cards you find or something Still haven't played SCIII <nowiki>*sigh</nowiki>...I'll get around to it soon...

Let me know and thanks!

~Megan

PS I also said thank you for finally understanding and giving me space and toning down your affections. Even so I also said that you are still my good friend and take everything you've given me and done with great appreciation.}}

===Chris talks about cards and how lonely he is===
{{quotebox|
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Subject: Re: hey 
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:24 pm 
Okay, here's the summary:

UFS SC Set 1 FOIL UR SR Manas & Ayas 
UFS New UR SR Promo Foil R Mika 
From same Vendor for total of $8.25 
UFS Street Fighter Vega SF02 092/126 
From another Vendor for a total of $4 
UFS Street Fighter VEGA'S CLAW SF02...096/126 Rare 
From another for a total of $3.99 
UFS Street Fighter FOIL Vega SF1P****06/12 PROMO 
UFS Soulcalibur III FOIL Voldo SC3P****14/16 PROMO 
UFS Soulcalibur III FOIL Voldo SC01****091/143 URARE 
From Paladin Game and Hobbies for a total of $10.72

Which totals to (rounded up) $27, and with the $4 from Revenants, that makes it $31. Although I would feel better with a total cash settlement (or installments totaling to), I will take off $18 for your listed merchandise in your recent e-mail, taking the total down to $13. Also, for your information, you have mentioned the Revenant card in your e-mail from your Yahoo address you sent on the 30th of Sept. And as for the whole toning down the affections thing... in a nutshell, yes that's what I did... but I had to redirect them towards going back to my Sweetheart Search... Until I am found by a [[Boyfriend-Free Girl]] who can and is willing to grow into my sweetheart, (since I have no new special someone to call upon yet) I am finding myself still [[Mass debating|silently calling]] for you when I'm feeling lonely... Quite the quandry. 
Anyhoo, I will let you know of any updates, or I will read your reply.

Take care; 
Chris Chan.}}

===Megan also talks about cards===
{{quoteboxred|
From: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
To: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
Cc: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
Subject: Re: hey 
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:53 am

Thank you very much. I will bring you the 13$ and merchandise this friday. Thank you for finding these cards I never find what I'm looking for too often.

I will also bring the lot of girl cards and I hope to find the rest of the cassandras as well. Can you list me the holos you have and I'll tell you ahead what I'm interested in. Only list what you're willing to trade. And when you list found/act/attk please write beside- the character they go with like Despair-Voldo. 
Thanks so much again! See you soon!

~Megan}}
===Chris talks about Crocs and how he was kicked out of the library for soliciting sex===
{{quotebox|
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: yoshimitsuharakiri@yahoo.com 
Subject: Just wanted to warn John... 
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 8:37 pm

I've just learned on the [[Wikipedia:John_Tesh#John_Tesh_Radio_Show|John Tesh Radio Show]] that people who wear [[Wikipedia:Crocs|Croc Shoes]] on escelators are having their toes, toenails gnashed, torn off or worse. If he is in an area where there is an escelator, encourage him to use an elevator or stairs.

I have not received the cards yet, nor have I been able to get that second [[Wikipedia:Manaphy#Manaphy|Manaphy]] egg yet. I've had a surprise Tuesday while I was sittin' at the [[University of Virginia|Alderman Library]] (waitin' to be found by a Boyfriend-Free girl). Some old hag and her bodyguard approached me and made it obvious that it was verbodden to find True Love there. Who did she think she was; the wife of the Pope? I disregarded her intrusion, but I am cautious about the possibility of another clash of battle, like in the past with that Witch of [[PVCC]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], that [[Jerkief]] at [[Fashion Square]] and the [[Manajerks]] at [[Wal-Mart]] and [[Target]]. Unlike Tuesday and the previous events, I am much saltier than I was.

I will never fall for the FALSE Law of True Love searching and sharing being illegal in the State of Virginia, or in short "[[Virginia is for Virgins]]," nor will I quit chillin' at the Library's Lounge Tuesdays and Thursdays with a printed advertisement in the neighborhood.

But I digress. I will see you at the Game Place tomorrow.

Take Care; 
Chris Chan.}}

===Chris is angry about Megan kissing her friend, then pities himself===
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−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 3:10:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time 
Subject: I'm sorry... <nowiki>*sigh*</nowiki>

The hugging was one thing, but when I heard the smack of your kiss on his cheek, it started a chain reaction in my head from "OMG" to simultanious infuration and jealousy. I assure you that I would not do anything extreme to Christopher.

Originally, I was not fond of him, because it was obvious that he was a [[homos|homo]]. Yes, I am a homophobe; I fear them all, and I fear the tormenting temptations of falling off the straight path. But then I mentally, sometimes from a DVD (and if you'll pardon the expression), shove some pussy in my face. I tell you what, if I ever stoop down to changing my path, I might as well would get a gender change operation. I've seen [[Wikipedia:Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina|the episode]] of "[[South Park]]" where [[Wikipedia:Herbert Garrison|Mr. Garrison]] had that operation; they showed the [[Nudes|gruesome details]]. ugh...

I was programmed to be more favorable towards women over those of my gender. With the infinitely high Boyfriend-Factor, I am not fond of about 99.999999999996% of the total male population, with a margin-of-error of the 4 billionth of a percent (for about 100 men) of whom are okay acquaintences. Those doofs get all the luck, having a Sweetheart to care for and to be cared from, getting all the hugs, kisses and e motional support and the security of a solid future without lonliness and with love and children. And besides that, my [[Autism]] is not much help on the programming of my mind. *sigh*

Oh, my life.

I have been trying to move on, but I still have caring feelings for you, Megan, since I still have not found another Boyfriend-Free woman to transfer the care to. I sit at the UVA's Alderman library for Three Hours on Tuesdays and Thursdays, with a printed advertisement taped on the bar-type furniture across from me, and I am waiting, hoping and praying to be found/picked up by a Boyfriend-Free, 18-25-year old, caring, smoke-free, non-alcholic, white woman, who will voluntarily be my Gal-Pal to Girlfriend to Sweetheart. Can you understand the loneliness I feel from days and days of not even being approached by a caring someone while I wait and wait and wait to be found by a caring someone? Not only is it Very Lonesome, but it is Tiresome, Troubling and Frustrating... *sigh* It's been that way since the beginning of my Sweetheart Search in August, 2003. Granted the relieving heart poundings I felt for you for over a year, until the e-mail I received during the Parappa contest last August.

But rest-assured, aside from the past issues and angst against the males of the Boyfriend-Factor, I, Christian Christopher Weston Chandler, have not and will not ever have any intention of killing or murdering or physically ensue pain towards any person, including your Christopher.

I am sorry about Friday night, Megan.

Take care; Christian Christopher Weston Chandler.}}

===Megan had it worse in school===
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From: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
To: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
Cc: pearl3 <fourdogs4@sitestar.net> 
Subject: ok 
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 5:18 pm

Ok, thanks for the reassurance. Yes I can understand your lonliness because I was the same way...worse maybe. I mean you actually had friends through school. I didn't have any friends at all. I was treated very badly by everyone. To the point where I had to drop out and graduate through homeschool.

I still want you to know that you are still my friend. And I am grateful for everything you've done. When I look through my huge book of Sailormoon cards, I'm almost to tears because YOU were the reason it has grown into a magnificent collection! :) I appreciate everything you've done and given me. Thank you.

I'm still not interested in marriage though. It's not my style. ;)

Well hopefully things will work out now. 
And let me know if there was anything you wanted for the foil [[Wikipedia:Street Fighter Alpha 3|R. Mika]] cards you have. I even have extra commons for her if you're interested. 
Talk to you later 
You take care and feel better soon. 
haha I'm still shy about his affections though! I'm like, ok, I'm on his lap, what do I do? hahaha 
~Megan}}

===Megan is pissed that Chris is nosing in her business===
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−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
To: cwcsonichu@aol.com 
Sent: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 4:24 am 
Subject: what's up?

Christian I can probably understand how you're feeling. You looked [[Chris and anger|pretty pissed]].....not to mention giving my friend the "[[:Image:FuckYouTito.jpg|fucky finger]]".

Why? Why do you hate him so much? Cause now he's really scared that you're going to go after him and kill him!

Besides if you have to hate someone, it should be me because I'M the one who didn't return your feelings and didn't want a serious relationship. Remember I have [[Women's Rights|the right]] to decide who I want to be with. Now I'm not saying that I hate you. You are still my friend....that is if you're going to stop keep getting grudges and tormenting my friend. You're hatred and jealousy towards him is affecting me as well. How do I know you're not going to do something rash? So please just leave us alone.

I'd like for you to just accept this and move on. You have no right to hate him, he did nothing bad to you! Personally I thought you'd actually be happy for me. So please listen to me and please don't do anything bad and just leave Chris alone.

Please get back to me 
~Megan}}

===Chris wants to know why she sat on Christopher's lap===
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From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Subject: Hey, I'm cool. 
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 9:25 pm

Yeah, I'm mostly over what happened Friday. But I have a single quandry to ask, and I would appreciate an [[Honest Content|honest answer]], please. Did Christopher ask you to sit on his lap, or what incentive gave you reason to do that? Please reply with an honest answer.

Other note, I picked up a couple of blank [[wikipedia:Universal Fighting System|UFS League cards]] for you and John to sign your names on; I'll give them to you two Friday. No tournament happened earlier; not enough people.

Take care; 
Chris Chan.}}

===Chris is scared of some fanart===
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From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net 
Sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:50:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time 
Subject: Megan, I've had so much to worry about today

The Good News though is that I've had more fans for Sonichu than I thought. Now the worse to bad...

I got this [[Evan|E-Mail]] earlier that had a set of four fanart of Sonichu and ME. While I enjoyed more the spoof of me sitting at by a box on a sidewalk, "Girlfriend Auditions," and the one with me glaring in the eyes of a blue hedgehog in armor. The OTHER TWO in that set of four... FREAKED, CREEPED AND SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!! (A lot worse than my freak-out over you on Christopher's lap last night; please keep that in private, in other words, "Get A Room.") I sent him a reply with respective [[Masturbating and squirtin'|criticism]]. I WAS INFURIATED!!!

Then later, I learn from an anonymous tipster about this girl'ss profile page on [[deviantART]], while she has good and fun fanart of Sonichu, SHE IS TAKING THE CREDIT, AND PLACING A FAKE COPYRIGHT, 2007 WITH HER NAME ON IT!!! You, Me, and the rest of the Sonichu Fan Club know that Sonichu Was Born On MARCH, 17, 2000 (Y2K). I sent her a message requesting her to remover her claim of copyright with a warning of Legal Actions.

All the images are attached to this e-mail, or I can show them to you on my PSP later. =0 A I just needed to get that off my head and heart, since my mom fell asleep on me at the moment.

Okay, I'll see you hopefully at the UFS Tournament. Also, don't forget to set your clocks one hour back this weekend.

Take care; Chris Chan.}}

===Chris talks about cards and mentions Lori===
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−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: fourdogs4@sitestar.net Cc: yoshimitsuharakiri@yahoo.com 
Sent: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 2:45:14 PM Eastern Standard Time 
Subject: Just to let you know...

Hey, Megan. It became kind of a ghost-town at the Game Place last Friday; most of the children left. It's too bad you didn't make it. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that I got a Piplup and Turtwig through SUCCESSFUL Trades through the [[wikipedia:Global Trade Station|GTS (Wi-Fi)]]. Also, have you or John gone underground with the Explorers' Kit? I found 4 Skull Fossils, so I have 3 extra Craniados; if I don't get one through the GTS by the Friday after Thanksgiving (NO LEAGUE this coming Friday), I need the other fossil Pokemon of the Diamond/Pearl Generation (the one that evolves into Bastiedon). I will trade you or John a Craniados for that Fossil Pokemon. One more thing, please Show me a Palkia in my Diamond game, so I can try to get one through the GTS.

That's about it for now. Please reply ASAP.

Take care; Chris Chan.

P.S. This is [[Lori Lopez|Lori]]; the girl my buddy [[Joshua Martinez|Joshua]] is hooking me up with. She had it done at JMU; that's why it has her name on it.}}

===Megan is curious===
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From: Megan Schroeder <yoshimitsuharakiri@yahoo.com> 
To: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
Subject: Re: Just to let you know... 
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:05 am

Well I'm not too far with Pearl but John has a lot of Pokemon. Have you met this girl yet? Well I hope it goes well for you. Let me know how it goes! I forgot to ask last night but could you find out if there will be UFS this coming sunday? Thanks!

Bye bye 
~Megan}}
===Chris really likes Pokemon===
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From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: yoshimitsuharakiri@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: Just to let you know... 
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 2:17 pm

I'll be meeting [[Lori Lopez|Lori]] soon. I've traded a LV.20 Male Burmy for a Shieldon over the GTS, so I'm good on the fossils for now. Not this coming Sunday; it's Thanksgiving Weekend; No Pokemon this week either. Thank you for replying and letting meknow. Please work on getting that Palkia, so I can have my character see it, so I can find it through the GTS. I will likely start the Ranger adventure again so I can get my own Manaphy. BTW, try Manaphy and Ditto at the Day Care; my Player's Guide says there's a non-evolving baby Manaphy to be hatched from that combination.

Take care; 
Chris Chan.}}

===Megan asks him for Nazi music or something===
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From: Megan Schroeder <yoshimitsuharakiri@yahoo.com> 
To: Christian Chandler <cwcsonichu@aol.com> 
Subject: one more favor? 
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:08 pm

Hey, I hope things go well between you and Lori.

Hope it's not a problem but I have ONE more request from [http://sailormusic.net/ Sailormusic.net]. I was going to download the ogg.vorbis thing but it didn't work...

On the international Albums could you please save all the German stuff for me please? I think each link is compressed file of several songs. Would that be ok with you? I would really like them and can't find them anywhere else...

Thanks again, I'll remember to bring Pokemon next time 
PS is it possible to save them and maybe email me the converted files? 
~Megan}}

===Chris is boring and still likes Pokemon===
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−−−−−Original Message−−−−− 
From: CWCSonichu@aol.com 
To: yoshimitsuharakiri@yahoo.com Cc: polizeigewalt@aim.com 
Sent: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 8:42:27 PM Eastern Standard Time 
Subject: Hey, Megan.

Just a reminder; please reply if otherwise, but please don't forget my [[wikipedia:Memory Stick#Memory Stick Duo|Memory Stick Duo]], as well as yours and John's Pokemon Diamond/Pearl games and DS Systems for when I meet you all at The End tomorrow.

I will be sure to come with my Wii and Pokemon Battle Revolution and my [[wikipedia:Datel Action Replay|Action Replay DS]] accessory.

I will check my e-mail tomorrow in the afternoon for your reply.

Take care, and see you all tomorrow. Chris Chan.}}

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