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Other enablers

2021-12-11T08:04:50Z

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{{Protip|Petty enablers, whether financial or fantastic, should not get more than a paragraph or two, and should be squarely focused on their relation to Chris.}}
When the [[Idea Guys]] showed everyone in late [[2017]] that Chris is still just as [[naive]] as he was a decade earlier, he inspired many bored, childish, and mentally ill copycats. Chris's [[Chris and reality|deteriorating psyche]] has made him less amenable to being reached by such traditional methods as claiming to be a [[boyfriend-free girl]]; the Idea Guys had indeed caused Chris by [[March 2018]] to conclude the [[Love Quest]], blocking off this avenue outright. Instead, those who wish to prove themselves latter-day [[The Miscreants|Miscreants]] play along with Chris's more eccentric beliefs, including in [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|his own divinity]]. A few such '''[[enablers]]''', such as [[Ben Saint]] and [[Jacob Sockness]], have left their indelible marks on the ''Sonichu'' series. Most have not. This page lists such petty [[enablers]] who have got [[TRUE and HONEST]] responses from Chris on social media or in chat rooms, yet have not provoked Chris into doing anything substantial.

==Fantasy==
===Eschcal===
[[File:CWCLivestream Fan, 12 Feb. 2020.png|thumb|200px|Eschcal tipping Chris $10 during a livestream.]]
'''Eschcal''' aka '''Whyt Foxx''' is a former enabler who discovered Chris in October 2019. She initially claimed to follow Chris to be a positive influence on him. Eschcal would later come into the spotlight when she donated $10 in his [[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2|live reading of ''SNT Vs Sonichu'']]. However shortly after the livestream, she would claim the relationship between the two would suddenly deteriorate, resulting in her being kicked out of his Discord group and knowing the true colors of Chris. She still occasionally orbits Chris's Twitter account but has reduced her enabling.<ref>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr52os</ref>

===Helena Fiorenza===
[[File:Helena Fiorenza with Magi-Chan.jpg|thumb|200px|Helena with Magi-Chan.]]
'''Helena Fiorenza''' (born 1 February 1994) aka '''P1ckChu''' formerly '''PickinyFelliny''', is an Argentinian woman who photoshops images of Chris's creations to get Chris's attention. In September 2019, Helena posted photoshops of her and Magi-Chan on a date, tagging [[MagiChan111448]].<ref>https://archive.md/Q8Taw</ref> Chris followed her back and answered:

{{quoteboxpurple|The images Helena has been uploading chronicled the one day she and I shared together, and yes, I did spend the night; her bed was comfortable. Thank you for your kindness and hospitality. My wish I made is coming true, as I had foreseen. 💜⚡️ }}

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She later implied her OC and Magi-chan were involved sexually to which Chris replied on Nov. 30th:
{{quoteboxpurple|He does like to have fun at times, so his brain is not overworked. He also does enjoy the simple things when he can.}}

Currently, she is continuing her ARG to get noticed by Chris, she also includes topics that may interest Chris such as the [[COVID-19]] pandemic and [[Trolls]] in her ARG, when she does get a response, it's mostly a braindead reply where Chris doesn't mention her and just pushes his agenda further.

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In March 2021, Chris made Helena's OC a prophet for his "religion". After this, Helena continued to make more comics following the surreal deity worship ceremony. Helena later drew a comic stating that Pickchu had a crush on Chris; Chris responded saying he was grateful, but he did not want to pursue a romantic relationship. A few days later, Helena drew multiple comics of her bunny OC and [[Naitsirhc]] starting a relationship. Chris did approve of the relationship, despite the 20-year age-gap between the characters.

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===Kevin Fairchild===
[[File:DarkrinaiSonichu.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Chris's drawing of Kai as a Sonichu.]]

'''Kevin Fairchild''', also known as '''Kai''', is one of the players in a [[Dungeons and Dragons]] group Chris joined in [[2020]]. He has influenced Chris's fantasy beliefs.<ref>[[July 2020 Discord leaks#Kai and Chris]]</ref>

Chris named him as a beneficiary in his [[Last Will and Testament]].

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===Multidimensional White Knights===
{{Troll}}
[[File:BlockDM.png|350px|right|thumb|'Carrie' pleads for SonichuMerch to advocate to let her back into Chris's viewing box.]]
The '''Multidimensional White Knights''' (MWK) or '''Knights of C-197''' are a group of accounts, all associated with [[OCs|fictional characters]] from disparate children's programs, chief among them Carrie Krueger of ''[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1942683 The Amazing World of Gumball]'', originally created in [[February 2019]] and repurposed that summer in an idle attempt to mess with Chris as he was emerging from the [[Soft Exile]]. Throughout summer 2019, they would interact sporadically with Chris, getting occasional replies and likes but no [[Laughs Under Lucricities]], being overshadowed by [[Sockness]]'s distended belly. No conclusive evidence identifying the puppetmaster behind these accounts exists.

During Chris's Twitter follower purge in [[July 2019]], Krueger was blocked from viewing Chris's account along with thousands of other perceived trolls, and the Knights were forced to use alternative accounts to reach him, though they were unblocked in October due to allegedly sending him a gift. Since then, the only one of the original ten Knights which Chris acknowledged as [[TRUE and HONEST]] was Ed Bighead of ''[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106115 Rocko's Modern Life]'', conflated with the [[Chris and religion|biblical]] [https://www.gotquestions.org/Darius-in-the-Bible.html Darius] and marketed as an ally against [[Ben Saint]] when he was trying to revise his comics that [[October 2019|October]].

[[File:156806320645546305.jpg|200px|right|thumb|The first Carrie photo that Chris fell for, it shows the Mooninites allegedly assassinating an offscreen OC.]]

Imitating the [[Idea Guys]]' love of the [[Operation BARBarossa|politically incorrect]], they also convinced Chris that [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/moon-man Mac Tonight] and former South African president [https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/history/southern-african-history-biographies/pieter-willem-botha Botha] were in league with Sockness's demons. They also convinced him that Austria-Hungary reformed and it was being led by Spongebob Squarepants who had changed his name to Amadeus and that the Ottoman Empire also reformed with a random Paper Mario character serving as Sultan. This was done by sharing a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BD-ba-aXQo Local 58 video] with Chris claiming that the events of the video were the work of Sockness's demons and Chris believed it.

Most recently they got <strike>Chris</strike> [[Spirit possession#Sonichu|Sonichu]] to acknowledge that the setting for [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Loud_House The Loud House] exists in C-197 during a Twitter thread in [[October 2020]].

While the Knights keep trying to ignite conflicts about cartoon characters and random historical figures on [[Discord]] and involve Chris in them, they have got occasional lukewarm responses from Chris; they have moderately influenced his view on C-197 itself but his vision of the [[Dimensional Merge]] itself remains unaffected.

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===Noah===
'''Noah''' is a YouTuber and Chris [[ween]]/fan. He is known for snatching a drawing Chris had left at the abandoned [[Goodwill Offering and Kindest Wishes|DeJarnette Center]], as well as deceiving a musician to appear alongside Chris on his [[Chris Chan & Max Mandu LIVE / Leftovers Tonight|short-lived interview series]]. In [[April 2019]], he, along with his girlfriend, took Chris out for lunch at Citizen Burger Bar, located in [[Charlottesville]]. His girlfriend later described the encounter in a Reddit post.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/hvefmv/signed_sonichu_comic_book/</ref>

{{quotebox|Gotta go into the repressed memories for this one. I’m going to refer to Chris as “they/them/their” bc I honestly don’t know what they identify as anymore. Basically my ex was really into following their story and found their address, which happened to be close-ish to where we lived. He contacted them and said we’d take them to lunch, which of course they chose a not-so-cheap option and made sure he would pay for it. Then we drove my car to pick them up, being greeted by the lovely sound of [[Clover and Snoopy|hound/beagle barks]]. They came out donning rainbow [[hair]], about 12 rings, a backpack, a jean skirt, and of course the [[Medallion|infamous Sonichu necklace]]. The ride to lunch was an absolute clusterfuck. They didn’t shut up, sang along to the radio, talked about how the [[Dimensional Merge|cartoon world would soon merge with our world]], how they [[Messiah complex|could talk to the dead]], and so on. I honestly didn’t think people like that really existed. Once we got to the restaurant, they pulled out a [[Idea Book Case|duct tape wallet]] to be able to play [[Pokemon GO|Pokémon go]] on two phones at once, like any sane person. They talked about everything so loudly I was mortified. Somehow the conversation ended up with them putting the Sonichu necklace on me and asking if I could “feel the power” (all I felt was dread). There’s a photo in existence of this great moment, but unfortunately it’s on my ex’s phone and I do not plan on ever speaking to him again, especially to ask for that photo. The ride back was an absolute disaster too, basically more ranting about crazy shit. It ended with them giving us [[business card]]s and saying we should hang out again, to which I obviously never took that offer up.}}

When a fan asked if Chris had kissed her, she replied:

{{quotebox|Hahah no thank god- just a cringey hug. Might have had to do with the fact someone else was there though, and I’m about 15 years younger. Thought I’m not sure that would stop them.}}

Chris also gifted a copy of his [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]] comic.

===Richard Bale===
'''Richard Bale''', known by his online handle '''Richard Righteous''',<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/orbiter-general-thread.75256/post-7145188</ref> is a person who designed merch and the logo for [[CWCville Shopping]]. He is the central theme of a TSSSF expansion pack Chris made titled ''[[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder#Righteous Rising Expansion Pack|Righteous Rising]]''.

Active since 31 July 2018, Righteous keeps his face anonymous, wearing a Michael Myers facemask with makeup (blue lids, pink cheeks, and red lips) and blonde hair on it.

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===KwaiiSandbag===
'''[[KwaiiSandbag calls|KwaiiSandbag]]''' was an enabler who roleplayed as a psychic along with his friend Lily in order to convince Chris to stop LARPing as Sonichu. While his influence over Chris spanned less than two months in early 2021, KwaiiSandbag was able to put an end to the spirit possession saga.

Not long after the spirit possession ended, KwaiiSandbag would admit to his fraudulency and expressed to Chris that he only wanted to help him lead a more normal life. Chris responded by saying he had known of this all along (a statement which was very likely false), and merely wanted a couple of people to talk to (which was more likely to be true).



==Financial==
{{See also|Enablers#Financial enablers}}
{{Protip|Most financial enablers (those who ''just'' give him money) need only be cataloged in the sister article. Those here have gone beyond that: speaking with Chris and trying to influence him.}}

===Aly Hirschberg===
{{Transgender|FTM}}
{{quote|Christine is actually paying bills and stuff. The money I give her at least hasn't gone to waste, she uses my money I give for gas, electricity, car fuel, food, all the necessary essentials.|Hirschberg, February 2020,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/post-5985046 Money goes to "necessary essentials", 7 February 2020]</ref> justifying her financial enabling as freeing Chris's [[monthly tugboat]] to spend on toys instead}}

{{quote|Has he ever thanked you, or offer gratitude in any way?|A fan's question for Hirschberg}}

{{quote|No which is why I hardly talk to her.|Hirschberg's reply, August 2020.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aly-hirschberg-alan-christopher.60596/post-7085596</ref>}}

[[File:Alan.JPG|thumb|200px|Alan Hirschberg]]

'''Aly Michelle Hirschberg''' (born 15 August 1987),<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/post-5423984 Alan's real name and gender confirmed, 5 October 2019]</ref> also known by her [[tomgirl|transgender]] byname '''Alan Christopher''', is a mentally disturbed<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/post-5482182 Interview with Hirschberg, 19 October 2019]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/post-5510526 Interview with Hirschberg, 25 October 2019]</ref> [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|Scottish]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|Jew]] living in England who emerged in mid-[[2019]] and believes herself to be Chris's best friend.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/post-5741203 Details on Hirschberg's plans, 19 December 2019]</ref> She is one of Chris's financial benefactors, and has even claimed to be his primary donor responsible for mitigating the [[Financhu Crisis]],<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/post-5858020 Hirschberg describes her motives, 13 January 2020]</ref> though Chris has denied this.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chandlers-sued-for-debt-megathread.55045/post-5947111 Chris repudiates Aly, 31 January 2020]</ref> She has also set up abortive fundraisers to send Chris (and, for a time, [[Jacob Sockness]]) on a world tour,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/ Meet the Creep Behind Chris Chan's Fundraisers, 16 September 2019]</ref> which Chris repurposed to support his ''[[My Little Pony]]'' obsession.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Fundraiser for BABSCon|Chris earmarks Hirschberg's world tour fundraiser for BABScon, 6 October 2019]]</ref>

Hirschberg and Chris have known each other since the Classic era: as early as [[2008]], they would exchange letters which contents have not yet been divulged.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meet-the-creep-behind-chris-chans-fundraisers.60596/post-5700309 External confirmation of Hirschberg's antiquity]</ref> She has also spent several thousand dollars on his [[Etsy]] and [[eBay]] offerings before these [[Chris and business|ventures]] were shut down. She is apparently truly convinced that the [[Dimensional Merge]] and [[CWCville]] are [[Chris and reality|real]], and that [[Jacob Sockness]]'s sorcery is really effective. Other than as a tool to solicit funds on Twitter in [[October 2019]], she has had no substantial interactions with Chris in public.

In August 2020, Hirschberg stated that her donations have decreased to occasional gifts, mainly in the form of [[PSN]] game credits (which Chris didn't bother to use).<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aly-hirschberg-alan-christopher.60596/page-24</ref>

===Jack Jankowski===

'''Jack Jankowski''', aka '''Jack Z''',<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jack-z-jack-jankowski-gave-chris-1-200-for-bronycon-wants-to-hang-out-with-him-there.42041/page-23#post-3284412</ref> gave Chris $1,200 in April 2018 for a luxury trip to the 2018 [[BronyCon]] in the hopes that he and his friends would get to meet him there<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jack-z-gave-chris-1-200-for-bronycon-wants-to-hang-out-with-him-there.42041/page-4#post-3273576</ref> and convince Chris to be interviewed on their YouTube channel.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jack-z-jack-jankowski-gave-chris-1-200-for-bronycon-wants-to-hang-out-with-him-there.42041/page-4#post-3273749</ref> Chris thanked him for the money in [[I have been paid to go; we’ll see if I can go (Seriously To Be Determined)]]. However, the money ended up going to the [[Idea Guys]] due to their alleged extortion.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/confession.65532/</ref>

Jack paid $100 for a [[April 2018 Paid Video Requests#Message to Dio Brando, Plus I Need a New Phone!|video (which Chris decided to bookend with unrelated begging announcements)]].

Jack also tried to use the lore from ''{{w|Jojo's Bizarre Adventure}}'' to influence Chris, claiming that series antagonist {{w|Dio Brando}} was trolling him. However, Chris consulted the Idea Guys, who told him that Jack was a troll.<ref>[[Cryzel Torture]]</ref>

Jack also stated that he'd been involved with the [[Prank calls#Liquid Bob calls Bob|Liquid Bob]] call several years prior.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jack-z-jack-jankowski-gave-chris-1-200-for-bronycon-wants-to-hang-out-with-him-there.42041/post-3274429</ref>

===Kenneth Englehardt===
[[Image:260px-Kenneth_Erwin_Englehardt.jpg|thumb|200px|Kenneth Englehardt]]

'''Kenneth Erwin Englehardt''' (born 2 March 1960), affectionately nicknamed '''Kengle''' by Christorians, and occassionally known as '''OnionNull'''<ref>Named in reference to [[Null|Joshua "Null" Moon]], the proprietor of the Kiwi Farms</ref> is a ''Sonichu'' fan and one of [[Chris]]'s [[Facebook]] [[white knights]] during the mid-2010s, as well as the owner and proprietor of the ''Onion Farms'', a splinter forum based on the [[Kiwi Farms]]. He has also bought several of Chris' [[eBay]] items, and sent him some sardines after Chris's [[Destruction Of Chris's House|house burned down]].

He has made many responses to Chris's posts, which Chris sometimes finds to be annoying. In [[May 2018]], Chris listed a spare [[2018_Sales_Listings#Extra_Sonichu_license_plate|license plate]] on eBay. Since license plates may be considered DMV property, Kengle asked Chris if he got permission to sell it from the DMV, which prompted Chris to ask him to stop, to which Kengle agreed. Two days later, somebody suggested to Chris that his donations dropping could be Patreon taking a 50% cut, which Kengle said was outrageous. This prompted Chris to call Kengle outrageous and tell him not to comment on his posts anymore or Chris would unfriend him, but he told Kengle that he is still allowed to [[Negotiation|donate to his Patreon]] if he chooses. Kengle, having finally had enough, told Chris that friendships don't work like that and said goodbye, suggesting that he was done with Chris.<ref>[[May_2018_social_media_posts#Kenneth_Englehardt_BTFO]]</ref>

Not too long after, Kengle replied to Chris's tweet begging for money:

{{quoteboxonion|Have you considered a project manager? They can help with work layout, publicity, the bottom line and so forth.}}

Chris replied with:

{{quotebox|If I had even remotely Knew of such a Manager YEARS ago, I seriously would have done that sooner. Eeyup.}}

In 2021, Chris would address [[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021|a letter to him]] from jail, implying that Kengle was still in good standing with Chris. In it, Chris begs for donations to be made toward 14 Branchland Court, and to contact the President of the United States to pardon Chris.

Several other of Chris's letters from jail were also posted to the Onion Farms operated by Englehardt.

===Miss Cherry===
{{Transgender|MTF}}
[[File:Danielle Stone.png|thumb|200px|Miss Cherry]]

'''Miss Cherry''', birth name '''Daniel Stone''',<ref>According to [[The Captain]], [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/miss-cherry-tried-pretending-to-be-chriss-gf-pledged-1-000-to-him.45747/post-3586570 here]</ref> is an Australian [[transgender]] who spent <abbr title="Australian: equivalent ~$1000 US.">AU$1500</abbr> of his mother's money in a failed bid at becoming Chris's first [[Love Quest|sweetheart]] in the [[Idea Guys]]' wake. On 20 [[July 2018]], he pledged $589 to Chris's [[Patreon]], as a means of getting Chris's attention by being the first to hit his monthly goal and referring to himself as his number one fan and his newest sweetheart.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/miss-cherry-tried-pretending-to-be-chriss-gf-pledged-1-000-to-him.45747/</ref> However, Chris simply took the money and disputed his claim of being in a relationship with him, partially doxxing him as well:

{{quote|Oh. you're a good patron, I appreciate your support, but [[DoopieDoOver|You and I are NOT Lovers]], Cherry Stone.}}

In response, Stone doubled down by increasing the pledge amount to $1,000.<ref>https://archive.fo/mqzyT</ref> On 23 July, Chris posted to Twitter about the good fortune of getting the money, as he needed it to fund his car repairs as his Plan A for getting to [[BronyCon]]. In doing so, he doxxed Stone fully.<ref>https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/1021436370768867329</ref> That Chris appeared annoyed at Miss Cherry claiming to be in a relationship with him is interesting, considering that [[Chris and hypocrisy|he has done the same thing]] to [[Megan Schroeder|many]] [[The Wallflower|women]] in the past. Stone discontinued his pledge on the next day;<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/miss-cherry-tried-pretending-to-be-chriss-gf-pledged-1-000-to-him.45747/page-13#post-3594892</ref> however, as Chris had set his Patreon to upfront charging,<ref>[[September 2017 Patreon posts]]</ref> the money remained with Chris. Miss Cherry faded into obscurity, broke and broken-hearted.

===James Lewis Martin===
[[File:William Robinson.jpg|thumb|200px|One of Martin's pictures that he had volunteered on [[Kiwi Farms]].]]

{{quote|Giving Christine money for food, petrol, gas, electricity isn't enabling.|Martin, defending his enabling.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aly-hirschberg-alan-christopher.60596/post-6258328</ref>}}

'''James Lewis Martin''' (11 May 1985 – 1 June 2020),<ref>https://www.obituare.com/james-martin-obituary-77884/#obituary</ref> also known as '''William Robinson''' or '''CPU Byzantium Heart''',<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/william-robinson-christopher-stokes-gaming-samurai-king.68238/</ref> was an [[autism|autistic]], emotionally perturbed <s>[[China|Chinese]]</s> Polish Englishman, <abbr title="One who exposes himself freely on Kiwi Farms.">''halal'' lolcow</abbr> and Hirschberg's friend, also giving Chris money and affirmation over his fantasy world by pretending to be a fellow [[CPU]] god.<ref>https://twitter.com/ByzantiumHeart/with_replies Archive: http://archive.fo/9qq4P</ref> Robinson believed that he should give Chris his mother's money to keep him from going homeless and to fund his other expenses,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/william-robinson-james-lewis-martin-christopher-stokes-gaming-samurai-king.68238/post-6306934 Martin's funds come from his mother, 17 April 2020]</ref> ignoring the fact that Chris's [[monthly tugboat]] already covers these and that Chris spends any donations on frivolities such as printing up [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|TSSSF]] cards and buying [[magic stones]]. Martin also tried to send his aunt, a social worker, to Chris's house to give him even more help,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aly-hirschberg-alan-christopher.60596/post-6250681</ref> but Chris refused to answer the door, thinking the social worker was there to have him committed to a mental institution.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aly-hirschberg-alan-christopher.60596/post-6252776</ref> His parents discovered him online (against [[Bob Walks In|family restrictions]]) after a failed [[white knight]]ing crusade on [[Kiwi Farms]] and bungled [[Chris and death|suicide attempt]], and revoked his Internet privileges. In [[June 2020]], Martin committed suicide following a bout of depression.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/william-robinson-james-lewis-martin-christopher-stokes-gaming-samurai-king.68238/post-6743199</ref>

===Sarah and Steven===
[[File:Sarahchu.jpg|thumb|Sarahchu]]
{{quote|Remember, if you are ever in trouble or need help (before we're able to move) just message us first! I'm afraid other people could not be very trusted.|Part of a message Sarah and Steve wrote to Chris.}}
[[File:SnSoverit.png|thumb|150px|left|Let this be a lesson to all would-be enablers.]]

'''Sarah and Steven''' were a pair of half-hearted enablers, working jointly, who first appeared in [[February 2019]] when they discussed a [[Rosechu]] [[medallion]] with Chris, as well as the possibility of meeting him in person, on Twitter.<ref>[[:File:Sarah and Steve ask permission to make medallion.jpg|Sarah and Steven's first appearance, 27 February 2019]]</ref> They had bought a [[Nintendo Switch]] for Chris and supported him on Patreon, yet their attempts to keep themselves anonymous and out of public view were derailed by Chris himself when he [[Very Cool Birthday Present! :)|filmed himself with the new console and revealed their secret plans]] to move to [[Virginia]] and isolate Chris from other contacts to make him dependent upon them. After this, they disappeared for a month, setting a trend that would mark a pattern in all future cycles of interactions with Chris.

In [[May 2019]], Sarah and Steven returned, professing themselves as believers in Chris's [[Chris and his ego|personality cult]],<ref>http://archive.fo/rc9aN</ref> and again sought to malign him against the [[Guard Dogs]] by presenting themselves as exclusively trustworthy.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File_talk:Sarah_and_Steve_DM_messages_1.png</ref> After several of their private discussions were leaked onto [[Kiwi Farms]],<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-1060#post-4782445</ref> they abandoned course again and lamented that they were swindled out of the money they had freely given Chris in their bid for influence over him; their relationship with Chris further deteriorated,<ref>[[:File:SNSjuly23rd2.png]][[:File:SNSjuly23rd3.png]]</ref> and he finally cast them aside on 25 [[July 2019]], when they raised the question of what would happen should they dare question any of Chris's teachings or beliefs.<ref>[[:File:SNSunfollowed.png]]</ref> Further attempts to reach Chris by endorsing [[Jacob Sockness]], in both [[August 2019|August]] and [[October 2019]],<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-1149#post-5140617 Random Chris updates, page 1149]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/ Thread on Sockness's attempts to isolate Chris, 3 November 2019]</ref> have to date all ended in failure.

In [[March 2021]], Chris revealed their OC, called Sarahchu, born from a Lopunny Pokémon and a [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]]; she is a part-poison type.

===William Waterman===
{{quote|Do you Ever Stop?|[[Chris]], annoyed at Waterman constantly posting comments on his Facebook updates}}

[[Image:William_Elliott_Waterman.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Waterman, a.k.a. VikingBoyBilly]]

'''William Elliott Waterman''' (born 1 March 1986) was a [[Facebook]] friend of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] during the mid 2010s, known for making many comments of support, occasional advice, and off-topic remarks on Chris's posts, and for being repeatedly unfriended. He has also purchased artwork from Chris, including [[Sonichu 0|the first issue of ''Sonichu'']] and has been a supporter on [[Patreon]].

Chris and Waterman apparently met online, through Waterman's cousin and one of Chris's most well-known enablers, [[Anna McLerran]]. They never met in person, and Chris initiated the friend request after correspondence with Waterman,<ref>[[August 2013 Facebook Posts#William Elliott Waterman's FUTURE MESSAGE]]</ref> despite him being [[JERKS|male]] and having [[Asperger syndrome]]. Waterman's first activity on Chris's Facebook timeline is from May [[2013]].<ref>[[May_2013_Facebook_Posts#This_cold_is_really_weighing_me_down]]</ref>

In [[November 2015]], Waterman tried to claim that Chris was under his control and would not make any more statuses or videos until the administration of [[Kiwi Farms]] gave into demands he made. Chris, refusing to be part of Waterman's schemes, posted on Facebook that he had control over his own life,<ref>[[November_2015_Facebook_Posts#I_Control_My_Life|Facebook post]]</ref> and then promptly unfriended Waterman. By [[June 2016]], Waterman had wormed his way back into being re-added. Later that month, at Waterman's request, Chris began reading [[:Category:Rainbows, Unicorns, and a Bluebird of Happiness|Rainbows, Unicorns, and a Bluebird of Happiness]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-reads-unicorns-rainbows-and-a-bluebird-of-happiness.21663/page-9#post-1534383</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-reads-unicorns-rainbows-and-a-bluebird-of-happiness.21663/page-24#post-1563368</ref> Shortly after Chris had read chapter four of that fanfic, he unfriended Waterman again.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/7-9-yt-announcement_20160709.22293/page-7#post-1586578</ref> In [[Announcement 20160709]], Chris revealed that he was angry at "Mr. Bill" for suggesting that he read the story, which Chris found to be nonsensical. Three weeks later, Chris re-added him to his friend list again.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-7-28-tranny-status-updates.22924/page-3#post-1633317</ref> Days after he reappeared on Chris's Facebook comments section, Chris began a new series of fanfic-reading videos called [[Reading: "A Girl Who Brought Down the World", "And Apparently Survived a Housefire"]].

Waterman paid Chris to insert his [[OC]] [[Bananasauros]] into [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], where the character moves in with [[Punchy Sonichu]] and has sex with an opposite-gender clone. Chris apparently found Bananasauros so asinine he couldn't resist inserting his own criticisms into the comic. Despite being personally insulted by Chris in the very set of pages he had paid for, as well as on Patreon's comments section,<ref>[[July_2017_Patreon_posts#Ripping_off_MLP]]</ref> Waterman continued to be a loyal supporter, donating monthly to Chris for some time, though eventually ending his pledge.

With the revelation of Chris engaging in [[incest]] with his mother, Waterman declared on the former’s Facebook page that he was done with Chris.

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Financhu Crisis

2021-08-03T06:01:15Z

Aschlafly:

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{{quote|I do not feel I would be mentally suited for an application-required, long waits to be contacted or not contacted, "am I hired yet", under "The Man", Freaking job!!! Stop Telling me to "Get a Job". Gawd!!!|Chris, April 2017,<ref name=getajob>[[April 2017 Facebook posts#Chris explains why he won't get a job]]</ref> after his friends on Facebook refused to entertain his nonsense excuses for not having a job}}

{{quote|truly Bad Intentions of spamming actual hate speech (Get A Job).|Chris<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1194090568898494464</ref>}}

[[File:Please, Donate (720p).mp400001.png ‎|thumb|400px|Chris, begging for money, while standing in front of more than a thousand dollars' worth of Lego sets and toys.]]

The '''Financhu Crisis''' is a term coined by users from [[CWCki Forums|Kiwi Farms]] to describe the steep decline in the Chandler family's [[Chris and money|financial management]] beginning in early [[2016]]. Signs of the Chandlers' worsening finances were made apparent by the increasing amounts of begging videos and donation requests on [[YouTube]] and [[Facebook]].

In June 2017, [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] began to take his [[Patreon]] account more seriously and recommenced drawing Sonichu comic pages. He has gotten several hundred dollars per month for his efforts, payments which continued until August 2021. As a result, begging had temporarily subsided. In mid-2018, however, begging resumed, for the stated purposes of avoiding foreclosure on [[14 Branchland Court]] and buying enough food for his family.

Chris [[Debt hearing (eyewitness account)|stopped caring]] about the Financhu Crisis by 2019, because of the [[Dimensional Merge]] and the generous backing from [[Aly Hirschberg]] and other [[financial enablers]]. Chris continues to beg, but only for [[conventions]], toys, and video games. Chris now also believes that he has vast wealth in <s>[[CWCville]]</s> [[C-197|Dimension C-197]] to pay off the creditors, but creditors do not buy into fictional worlds, and have managed to [[Debt#Court cases|sue him]] for at least $10,700.79 (as of 2 September 2020).

Given that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] is elderly on a [[tugboat|fixed income]], and Chris is ''[[Chris and work|lazy]]'' on a fixed income, it is unsurprising that many followers worry that the death of Barb [[#Future|could lead]] to the so-called "Homeless Saga" — a wet dream for [[A-Logging|A-Loggers]] and [[weens]], but devastating for both Chris and many of his followers.<ref name="guardsman"/><ref name="anominous"/>. Owing to Chris's arrest on [[incest]] charges, his patreon has been terminated. In addition, as Chris is now incarcerated without bond, precluding any sales, it is expected that the Financhu crisis will escalate - not least as Chris has alienated their [[enablers]] and [[White knights]].

==Background==
[[File:Financhu Wordle.png ‎|thumb|400px|A wordcloud of the videos and Facebook posts Chris made during the Financhu Crisis. Note how big "money" and "donations" are...]]

To this day, the Chandlers' financial woes are caused by their own irresponsible behaviors. Chris, [[Chris and money|learning absolutely nothing over the years]], has squandered any available money on [[Lego|children's toys]], [[PS4|video games]], [[McDonald's|fast food]] and [[sex toys]]. Barb, on the other hand, has simply been ignoring long-term debts and letting them pile up to alarming amounts, armed only with vain hopes that her manbaby would raise money for her bills.

'''Chris''' has made some efforts to generate income for the household over the past few years (bar that of [[Chris and stress|actually finding a job]]), which included opening an [[Etsy|Etsy shop]] in [[2015]]. However, any profits gained would immediately go straight to toy purchases, an irresponsible move that would turn out to be a recurring problem that keeps the Chandlers in the red. The shop would eventually shut down from Chris lazily not fulfilling Etsy orders, but he would still find some revenue by the occasional [[eBay]] sales of select merch from the [[14 Branchland Court|hoard]]. To further compound the issue, Chris has been instilled with a very real belief that [[fans]] are willing to drop large sums of money into his bank account [[Chris and his ego|for nothing]], an expectation that has since been strengthened by the $1,000 donation by [[DStecks]] in [[September 2015]]. This belief would take on the form of the many begging videos that highlight the saga to this day.

'''Barb''' seems to have outstanding debts that dwarf Chris's financial handiwork. On [[September 2016]], she faced lawsuits from Discover and Capital One for failing to pay the large amounts of her credit card debt, according to Virginia District Court records. It is worth noting that it takes a lot of ignored [[Trolls|debt collector]] calls over a long period of time to get a simple credit card debt escalated to a lawsuit, suggesting that Barb may have been outright ignoring making any payments to her credit cards. Only time will tell if more creditor companies begin to sue Barb for her neglect. In [[August 2016]], Chris revealed that the household is still under a [[14 Branchland Court#Mortgage|mortgage of $115,000]], introducing a far more worrying debt looming over the horizon.

Both Chris and Barb continue to barely stay afloat with their lives thanks to their own [[tugboat]]s, but their inactive lifestyle and reckless spending will not last forever at this rate.

Despite it all, '''Chris has not once attempted to find a job'''. In April 2017, with the household finances near the breaking point, one of Chris's IRL friends informed him of [https://www.vadars.org/ DARS], a service designed to help people with disabilities enter the workforce. [[Chris and his ego|Chris reacted ''with a temper tantrum, posting a multi-paragraph rant on not wanting to work'']].

==Outstanding debts==
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==Chris's frivolous spending during the crisis==
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[[File:Had-to-pay-3fyhaf (credit to Gunslinger).png|thumb|300px|A recurring theme throughout the Crisis.]]

Like any terminally irresponsible adult, Chris likes to keep his [[bedroom]] filled with toys, while [[Chris and money|keeping his wallet empty]]. Below is a list of the known expenses Chris has made during the Financhu Crisis, collected from online postings and eBay purchase history. Some amounts are estimated, but all amounts are debilitating.

During [[2016]], Chris was known to waste over $2,500 on toys.

In late 2017, Chris spent a considerable amount of money to attend [[Bronycon]]. 3-day pass tickets were around $60, but money spent on travel, food, souvenirs, and lodging is rounded to $2,000-3,000 by other attendees.

Below is a list of ''known'' frivolous purchases made during the Crisis. There are doubtless many more that are not known about, including cash purchases.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!class="unsortable"|Item
!data-sort-type="currency" |Amount ($)
|-
|New PS4 console<ref>https://kiwifar.ms/threads/internet-detective-proves-chris-bought-the-ps4-himself.18249/</ref>
!style="text-align:right;" |540.00
|-
|About 30 game purchases for the PS4<ref>http://psnprofiles.com/Sonichu&completion=all&order=played&pf=ps4#content</ref>
!style="text-align:right;" |600.00
|-
|[https://shop.lego.com/en-US/Firehouse-Headquarters-75827 $350 Ghostbusters lego set], bought on eBay<ref name=l>https://kiwifar.ms/threads/chris-spent-over-425-on-ebay-last-month.19451/</ref> for ''higher''
!style="text-align:right;" |425.88
|-
|Transformers action figures<ref name=tftr>[[List of toys#Transformers: Titans Return]]</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|587.00
|-
|[[Naru]], a dakimakura (or ''hug pillow'')
!style="text-align:right;"|90.00
|-
|Skylanders toys<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_toys#Skylanders</ref><ref>[[Skylanders Imaginators Leader Christine W Chandler: random Review N' Stuff]]</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|195.00
|-
|Pokemon merchandise<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_toys#Pokemon</ref><ref name=ebay>[[List of toys#Bought in 2017 from eBay]]</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|181.79
|-
|Amiibo (Smash series "Pit")<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_toys#Nintendo_Amiibos</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|12.99
|-
|"I'm Done Adulting" T-Shirt<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/screenshot-www-facebook-com-2016-10-03-14-31-36-png.141291/</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|23.99
|-
|Lego Dimensions (assorted sets)<ref>[[List of toys#Lego Dimensions]]</ref><ref name=ebay/>
!style="text-align:right;"|238.00
|-
|My Little Pony-themed card sleeves<ref name=ebay/>
!style="text-align:right;"|13.54
|-
|14K yellow gold Cleopatra bar 16" necklace<ref>[[http://archive.is/tPnTI]]</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|399.99
|-
|Tokyo Treat Box (minimum $31.50 per month for 31+ months)<ref>[[May 2020 social media posts]]</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|976.50
|-
|[[Skylanders avatar]] products, for use as raffle prizes<ref>[[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017]]</ref>
!style="text-align:right;"|750.00
|-
|[[DoopieDoOver]] artwork
!style="text-align:right;"|80.00
|-
|HexBox One
!style="text-align:right;"|400.00
|-
|HexBox Live Gold
!style="text-align:right;"|59.99
|-
|HexBox Games
!style="text-align:right;"|89.94
|-
|Sonic Forces
!style="text-align:right;"|39.99
|-
|DNA ancestry reports on Chris, Barb, and Bob
!style="text-align:right;"|500.00
|-
|God of War (PS4)
!style="text-align:right;"|59.99
|- class="sortbottom"
!style="background-color:#E9E9E9; text-align:right;", colspan="1"|Total
!style="font-weight:bold;color:#FF0000"|$6,267.09
|}

==Why Chris refuses to work==
{{quote|“You Want Money, GET A JOB”?

Our Response is that WE ARE ALREADY EMPLOYED BY YOUR BOSS’S BOSS’S BOSS due to our better and special powerful abilities. ⚡️💙⚡️

Therefore, for all of you Haterade-Chugging “GET A JOB!” spouters out there, I suggest you Shut Up and enjoy your ability to settle in a cozy Office or wherever.|Chris, clinging to his fantasies about the [[Dimensional Merge]] to justify why he's unemployed in the real world.<ref name=mergejob>[[June 2019 social media posts#Chris Claims To Be Employed Overseeing Dimensional Merge]]</ref>}}

{{main|Chris and work}}

Despite actively begging for money since 2016, and [[WE NEED MONEY FOR MORTGAGE NOW, PLEASE|a near-miss]] with foreclosure and homelessness in May 2018, Chris has not attempted to get a job (then again, the [[Cutco|last job he's had]] dates all the way back to [[2003]]). One of his real-life friends, a woman from his Pokémon club named Alexa, became concerned after seeing Chris repeatedly beg on Facebook. She suggested, in November 2016 and again in April 2017,<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Barb pawns jewelry, Chris decides to join Patreon]]</ref><ref name=getajob/> that he contact one of her family members who works at the Virginia {{abbr|DARS|Department for Aging and Rehabilitative Services}}, a government service that helps disabled individuals find work. At the first suggestion, Chris didn't follow through, and at the second, he fired off a rant against getting a job, forcing Alexa to back down.

In his rant, Chris gave the following flimsy excuses:

* He was busy with helping Barb and the pets (despite having no trouble in going on [[BronyCon|a three-day trip to another state]] without bringing them along in August 2017).
* [[Chris and his Ego|Trolls ruined his "background check"/reputation]]. While it is true that a Google search on Chris reveals unsavory details, they are only records of facts, and there are agencies that find work for [[slow-in-the-mind]] adults that would not care about minor crimes or indiscretions.
* Finding a job runs the risk of being discriminated against for his [[tomgirl]] gender.
* [[Chris and stress|Stress]].
* He fears being incompetent.

Later, Chris added more excuses for not wanting to work:

* In October 2017, Chris claimed that he was [[Chris and reality|too busy]] with [[CWCville]] and his [[imaginary friends]], in addition to helping Barb and the pets.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CWCki_Forums#Kiwi_Farms_post</ref>
* In June 2019, Chris claimed that he was already employed by God to oversee the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref name= mergejob/>

Most of his claimed reasons hold no weight. A "background check", as explained by [[Jackie]] and [[Kim Wilson]] many times, only applies [[Chris and the Law|to legal records]], and Chris's misdemeanors [[Honor roll|would not prevent him]] from getting a job. Fellow lolcows like [[William Elliott Waterman]] and [[Kenneth Erwin Englehardt|Kenneth Englehardt]] also have their names linked to their internet shenanigans, yet they have gained employment. Furthermore, discrimination on the basis of gender is illegal, especially as a result of {{w|Bostock v. Clayton County|a Supreme Court ruling}} on 15 June 2020.

In reality, getting a job would probably reduce his stress over needing to beg in order to afford more toys: his excuses on being fearful of making mistakes, and his obsession over his imaginary friends, are blocks set down by his own mind – revealing that, rather than growing up and assuming responsibility for his future, he would rather [[Chris and psychology|remain a manchild]] forever.

Chris's only plausible claim was in May 2018, when he feared that weens and A-logs will harass him at work, similar to how they harassed the management of [[The End Games]] and [[Anytime Fitness]] into [[ban|banning]] him.<ref name=harassment>[[May 2018 social media posts#A new excuse not to get a job|May 2018 social media posts § A new excuse not to get a job]]</ref>

==Why you shouldn't donate to Chris==
Buying things from Chris and/or donating to him is not at all recommended, mainly because:

* Chris has habitually neglected his customers. He has repeatedly failed to ship orders to his buyers on time, and will ignore messages from customers asking about their purchases, or give a myriad of excuses as to why they haven't shipped. If he does get around to shipping them, his [[naive]] methods of "packaging" often cause items to arrive damaged. Other times, he simply won't ship items at all (as seen perfectly with his [[Patreon]]).
* If Chris is angry enough, he can use your information against you. This was infamously seen when [[Mr. Smith]] attempted to purchase a medallion from Chris and, after Chris failed to make and ship one, filed a claim against him on [[eBay]], causing Chris's PayPal to be locked. Chris responded by furiously ''doxing'' Mr. Smith and another buyer on [[Facebook]], both of whom eventually received [[prank calls]] from [[weens]]. The information that PayPal releases to eBay sellers includes your full name, home address, e-mail address, eBay username, and (possibly) phone number. In other words, "the exact kind of information you wouldn't want a screeching manchild to post in a public place when it's followed by hundreds of cannibalistic Internet trolls."<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/important-dont-buy-from-chris.5048/]</ref>
* Chris will piss away your money. As stated above, Chris and Barb have had a long history of irresponsible spending habits, which is the biggest reason why they've fallen into debt. Even if he does manage to ship something to you without any sort of hassle, or [[December 2020 social media posts#Chris begs for money|claim he won't spend your cash on toys]], chances are still extremely high that Chris will immediately blow your money on Legos, action figures, video games, and/or other stuff, and then immediately go back to begging.

==Timeline==
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===2016===
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===2017===
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===2018===
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===2019===
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===2020===
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===2021===
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==Future==
Although [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] currently claims $900 of Chris's tugboat each month to pay the active [[14 Branchland Court#Mortgage|mortgage]] on 14 Branchland Court, the seriousness of the Financhu Crisis combined with Chris’s impulse spending have led many followers of Chris to speculate on whether the passing of Barb will lead to financial ruin.<ref name="guardsman">Guardsman42 (21 June 2019). [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chandlers-sued-for-debt-megathread.55045/page-23#post-4880132 Re: Chandlers sued for debt megathread]. ''Kiwi Farms''. Retrieved 19 December 2019.</ref><ref name="anominous">AnOminous (18 December 2019). [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/what-will-happen-when-barb-dies.10000/page-223#post-5735278 Re: What will happen when Barb dies?]. ''Kiwi Farms''. Retrieved 19 December 2019.</ref> Chris’s future revenue, other than the [[monthly tugboat]] and [[Enablers#Financial enablers|fans']] support, is likely to be very limited, with some of his followers admitting that Chris will never get any kind of loan or credit.<ref>Picklechu (1 July 2019). [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chandlers-sued-for-debt-megathread.55045/page-27#post-4934271 Re: Chandlers sued for debt megathread]. ''Kiwi Farms''. Retrieved 19 December 2019.</ref> Even if Chris were to reverse his stance and try to get a job, nearly all potential employers would be unwilling to take on someone with [[CADD|little to no skills]], and over a decade of [[List of places that have banned Chris|real-life]] and [[Chris and health#Anytime Fitness|internet]] [[Chris and the law|notoriety]].<ref>Bombsaway (18 December 2019). [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/what-will-happen-when-barb-dies.10000/post-5739803 Re: What will happen when Barb dies?]. ''Kiwi Farms''. Retrieved 19 December 2019.</ref>

Both the state of Virginia and the US federal government have programs intended to help the disabled secure independent living,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191018023230/http://www.dbhds.virginia.gov/assets/doc/DS/housing/state-rental-assistance-program-faqs-08_01_18.pdf State Rental Assistance Program: Answers to Frequently Asked Questions], 18 October 2019.</ref><ref>[https://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/atoms/files/4-13-11hous-US.pdf United States Fact Sheet: Federal Rental Assistance], 30 March 2017.</ref> most famously {{w|Section 8 (housing)|Section 8 housing}}; a number of followers have suggested that Chris should sign up for it,<ref>Holiday Special (7 January 2019). [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/what-will-happen-when-barb-dies.10000/page-175#post-4169315 Re: What will happen when Barb dies?]. ''Kiwi Farms''. Retrieved 19 December 2019.</ref> though these involve lengthy application processes and possibly several months' wait. On the contrary, financial ruin may be a wet dream for [[A-Logging|A-Loggers]] and [[weens]], but it would be devastating for both Chris and many of his followers. The [[Destruction Of Chris's House|2014 house fire]] caused a number of followers to doubt whether Chris will be able to cope with sleeping rough with little more than his clothes and [[medallion]], especially after being pampered with toys and video games for many years.<ref>JeffGoldblumIRL, Burning Love, c-no (10 January 2014). [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-10-1-14-fire-in-chriss-house.2849/page-33#post-167958 Re: Fire In Chris's House]. ''Kiwi Farms''. Retrieved 19 December 2019.</ref> Homelessness would also threaten the steady supply of [[Template:Da update|fresh drama]] that continues to attract new fans and followers from all walks of life and leave them wondering: "What will happen to Chris, and what will he do?".

==See also==
*[[Chris and money]] - A more general overview of Chris's finances.
*[[Chris and business]] - Chris's attempts to make money outside of begging.
*[[DStecks]] - Some argue that his donation inspired Chris's shameless begging.

==References==
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{{Money}}

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Affair with Mother

2021-08-03T02:14:11Z

Aschlafly: Officially charged and arrested

{{ongoing}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Early on the morning of 30 July, prompted by someone reporting the leaks, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. On 1 August 2021, Chris was officially charged with 1 count of incest, and with additional charges pending, held without bail.

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''<ref name="admission" />.

A screenshot was also leaked to the farms from a "Fiona" - apparently an autistic tiktoker who was going to visit Everfree NorthWest prior to the revelations of incest. The screenshot depicts Barb apparently masturbating, and is alledgedly a screenshot from a video in which Chris and Barb engage in oral and digital sex<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-562#post-9586952</ref>.
===Transcript===
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
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An uncut version was later released by an alleged accessory of ''10thanonymous'', ''ternarymercury'' on Youtube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Sjs3ZM8-Q</ref>, consisting of a few minutes of discussion on miscellaneous errata and an unknown individual "Fiona", alledgedly an autistic woman who was going to visit Everfree Northwest prior to the release of the leaks. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-563#post-9586962</ref>

==Prior events==
In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adult one. It has been keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris has used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a 'Bates'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Subsequent events==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel, and was told by [[Null]] to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] until Null could have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended for Chris's trip to [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account, a process which Null claimed could take up to three days (in fact the money reached Chris's account the next day). Chris told Null in his messages that he was spending the night of 30-31 July in his car and that he would go to a mall as soon as it opened in the morning and loiter there. The two malls he mentioned, [[Leonard Bearstein|Regency Mall]] and Chesterfield Towne Center, are in [[Richmond]]. This suggests that the family members with whom he intended to stay are his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]], who live in the Richmond area, and that they did not rescind their invitation until he had actually arrived at their home.

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>, which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #ChrisChan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th<ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref>, exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan.

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] saga, found that Chris had received $750.00 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb or gained access to Barb's bank account himself, either of which would violate the emergency protection order. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning he confirmed the that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and lying to cover it up, Null cut contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>.

Later that day, Null posted an exchange he had with Chris on 5 July, where Chris claimed to be in a sexual relationship with an older woman who he was reluctant to share details about, but mentioned that she had once worked as an accountant (Barb's pre-retirement profession) and that the affair was "something out an [[anime]] or fan fiction" - reminiscent of a statement in the leaked conversation about "incest fanfics come true". <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

===Discovery and arrest===

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On the evening of 31 July, Reddit user ''[[Chrisisaman]]'' located [[Son-chu]] parked at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], confirming that Chris was in the city and that he would be spending time in a motel.<ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/]</ref>. The next day (1 August), [[Orbiter Wave|a number of people]] attempted, or said they would attempt, to contact Chris there. The most significant was YouTuber [[Ethan Ralph]] who, along with his fiancée and some friends, livestreamed themselves [[Ween|driving to the motel to meet Chris]]. They ordered a [[Obesity|pizza]] in the hopes of luring him out and went about knocking on every door on the second floor. Chris did not answer the door and the group was told to leave by a motel employee. They went to Regency Mall across the street, while still streaming, to wait around and because it was suspected that Chris might be there if not in his room.

[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him"]]

Later that afternoon, they were tipped off that four police cars had shown up at the motel and arrived back in time to see two Henrico County police officers perp-walking Chris down from his room. Ralph continued to film for a live audience of over 3,000 viewers while the police talked to Chris, occasionally yelling comments himself which Chris sometimes responded to. Chris remained mostly calm and compliant during the arrest, though he rambled about the [[Dimensional Merge]] to both the police and Ralph's crew. The police then loaded Chris into a squad car and left without answering Ralph's questions.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-1-21-ethan-ralph-tries-to-drag-chris-chan-to-his-house.96772/</ref>

Chris is currently being held without bail at Henrico County Jail West.<ref>http://www.henricosheriff.org/search/</ref> Calls to the Sheriff's Office have confirmed that he is being held on a charge of incest. Although the Sheriff's Office website gives his gender as female, this does not mean that he will be put in women's prison if convicted; although Chris has legally self-identified as female (e.g. on his driver's license), transgender inmates in Virgnia are only placed in the prison of their identified gender if they have received sex-change surgery, which Chris [[Un-clit|has not]].

Of note is that the charge against Chris is listen on the Henrico Sheriff's Office website as "incest with own child or grandchild", presumably because "incest with own parent" charges are too uncommon to warrant an option for them in the software.

On 2 August 2021, the Charlottesville CBS affiliate, CBS 19, reported on the case, following the release of a press release from the Greene County Sheriff's Department indicating that Chris had been moved to Central Virginia Regional Jail.<ref>https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44432363/suspect-arrested-in-sex-crimes-against-family-member-case</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3</ref>

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==

Affair with Mother

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{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Early on the morning of 30 July, prompted by someone reporting the leaks, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''<ref name="admission" />.

A screenshot was also leaked to the farms from a "Fiona" - apparently an autistic tiktoker who was going to visit Everfree NorthWest prior to the revelations of incest. The screenshot depicts Barb apparently masturbating, and is alledgedly a screenshot from a video in which Chris and Barb engage in oral and digital sex<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-562#post-9586952</ref>.
===Transcript ===
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

An uncut version was later released by an alleged accessory of ''10thanonymous'', ''ternarymercury'' on Youtube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Sjs3ZM8-Q</ref>, consisting of a few minutes of discussion on miscellaneous errata and an unknown individual "Fiona", alledgedly an autistic woman who was going to visit Everfree Northwest prior to the release of the leaks. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-563#post-9586962</ref>

==Prior events==
In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adult one. It has been keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris has used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a 'Bates'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Subsequent events==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of 31 July, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel, and was told by [[Null]] to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] for a few days to allow for Null to have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended, prior to the incest allegations, for Chris to attend [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account.

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>, which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #Chris-chan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th<ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref>, exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan.

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] saga, found that Chris had received $750 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb, or had gained access to Barb's bank account himself, in violation of the emergency protection order either way. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning he confirmed the that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Chris mentioned that he planned to spend the day at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|the mall]], presumably spending some of the $750. Whether he followed through has not been confirmed.

Upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and lying to cover it up, Null cut contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>.

Later that day, Null posted an exchange he had with Chris on 5 July, where Chris claimed to be in a sexual relationship with an older woman who he was reluctant to share details about, but mentioned that she had once worked as an accountant (Barb's pre-retirement profession) and that the affair was "something out an [[anime]] or fan fiction" - reminiscent of a statement in the leaked conversation about "incest fanfics come true". <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

On the evening of the 31st of July, reddit user ''Chrisisaman'' located [[Son-chu]] parked at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], Virginia, confirming speculation that Chris will be spending time in a motel. <ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/]</ref>.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-08-01T07:22:10Z

Aschlafly: /* Transcript */

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{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Early on the morning of 30 July, prompted by someone reporting the leaks, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''<ref name="admission" />
===Transcript ===
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

An uncut version was later released by an alleged accessory of ''10thanonymous'', ''ternarymercury'' on Youtube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Sjs3ZM8-Q</ref>, consisting of a few minutes of discussion on miscellaneous errata and an unknown individual "Fiona", alledgedly an autistic woman who was going to visit Everfree Northwest prior to the release of the leaks. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-563#post-9586962</ref>

==Prior events==
In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adult one. It has been keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris has used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a 'Bates'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Subsequent events==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of 31 July, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel, and was told by [[Null]] to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] for a few days to allow for Null to have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended, prior to the incest allegations, for Chris to attend [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account.

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>, which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #Chris-chan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th<ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref>, exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan.

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] saga, found that Chris had received $750 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb, or had gained access to Barb's bank account himself, in violation of the emergency protection order either way. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning he confirmed the that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Chris mentioned that he planned to spend the day at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|the mall]], presumably spending some of the $750. Whether he followed through has not been confirmed.

Upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and lying to cover it up, Null cut contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>.

Later that day, Null posted an exchange he had with Chris on 5 July, where Chris claimed to be in a sexual relationship with an older woman who he was reluctant to share details about, but mentioned that she had once worked as an accountant (Barb's pre-retirement profession) and that the affair was "something out an [[anime]] or fan fiction" - reminiscent of a statement in the leaked conversation about "incest fanfics come true". <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

On the evening of the 31st of July, reddit user ''Chrisisaman'' located [[Son-chu]] parked at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], Virginia, confirming speculation that Chris will be spending time in a motel. <ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/]</ref>.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-08-01T07:15:10Z

Aschlafly: uncut tape

{{ongoing}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Early on the morning of 30 July, prompted by someone reporting the leaks, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''<ref name="admission" />
===Transcript ===
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
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An uncut version was later released by an alleged accessory of ''10thanonymous'', ''ternarymercury'' on Youtube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Sjs3ZM8-Q</ref>, consisting of a few minutes of discussion on miscellaneous errata and an unknown individual "Fiona".

==Prior events==
In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adult one. It has been keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris has used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a 'Bates'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Subsequent events==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of 31 July, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel, and was told by [[Null]] to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] for a few days to allow for Null to have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended, prior to the incest allegations, for Chris to attend [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account.

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>, which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #Chris-chan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th<ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref>, exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan.

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] saga, found that Chris had received $750 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb, or had gained access to Barb's bank account himself, in violation of the emergency protection order either way. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning he confirmed the that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Chris mentioned that he planned to spend the day at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|the mall]], presumably spending some of the $750. Whether he followed through has not been confirmed.

Upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and lying to cover it up, Null cut contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>.

Later that day, Null posted an exchange he had with Chris on 5 July, where Chris claimed to be in a sexual relationship with an older woman who he was reluctant to share details about, but mentioned that she had once worked as an accountant (Barb's pre-retirement profession) and that the affair was "something out an [[anime]] or fan fiction" - reminiscent of a statement in the leaked conversation about "incest fanfics come true". <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

On the evening of the 31st of July, reddit user ''Chrisisaman'' located [[Son-chu]] parked at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], Virginia, confirming speculation that Chris will be spending time in a motel. <ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/]</ref>.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==

Affair with Mother

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{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Early on the morning of 30 July, prompted by someone reporting the leaks, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''.<ref name="admission" />
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

==Prior events==
In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adult one. It has been keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris has used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a 'Bates'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Subsequent events==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of 31 July, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel, and was told by [[Null]] to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] for a few days to allow for Null to have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended, prior to the incest allegations, for Chris to attend [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account.

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>, which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #Chris-chan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th<ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref>, exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan.

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] saga, found that Chris had received $750 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb, or had gained access to Barb's bank account himself, in violation of the emergency protection order either way. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning he confirmed the that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Chris mentioned that he planned to spend the day at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|the mall]], presumably spending some of the $750. Whether he followed through has not been confirmed.

Upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and lying to cover it up, Null cut contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>.

Later that day, Null posted an exchange he had with Chris on 5 July, where Chris claimed to be in a sexual relationship with an older woman who he was reluctant to share details about, but mentioned that she had once worked as an accountant (Barb's pre-retirement profession) and that the affair was "something out an [[anime]] or fan fiction" - reminiscent of a statement in the leaked conversation about "incest fanfics come true". <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

On the evening of the 31st of July, reddit user ''Chrisisaman'' located [[Son-chu]] parked at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], Virginia, confirming speculation that Chris will be spending time in a motel. <ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/]</ref>.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==

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Oh god, Andrew Schlafly. I wonder what a Conservapedia article on Chris would look like. "Christian Weston Chandler is a 30 year old liberal who lives off of a Social Security disability fund for the questionably existant mental illness of autism..." [[User:Grandma Nazi|Grandma Nazi]] 04:51, 27 September 2012 (PDT)
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Affair with Mother

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{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Early on the morning of 30 July, prompted by someone reporting the leaks, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''.<ref name="admission" />
===Transcript ===
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| stardate = 30th [[July 2021]]
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

==Prior events==
In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adult one. It has been keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris has used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a 'Bates'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Subsequent events==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of 31 July, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel, and was told by [[Null]] to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] for a few days to allow for Null to have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended, prior to the incest allegations, for Chris to attend [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account.

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>, which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #Chris-chan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th<ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref>, exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan.

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] saga, found that Chris had received $750 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb, or had gained access to Barb's bank account himself, in violation of the emergency protection order either way. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning he confirmed the that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Chris mentioned that he planned to spend the day at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|the mall]], presumably spending some of the $750. Whether he followed through has not been confirmed.

Upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and lying to cover it up, Null cut contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>.

Later that day, Null posted an exchange he had with Chris on 5 July, where Chris claimed to be in a sexual relationship with an older woman who he was reluctant to share details about, but mentioned that she had once worked as an accountant (Barb's pre-retirement profession) and that the affair was "something out an [[anime]] or fan fiction" - reminiscent of a statement in the leaked conversation about "incest fanfics come true". <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

On the evening of the 31st of July, reddit user ''Chrisisaman'' located [[Son-chu]] parked at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], Virginia, confirming speculation that Chris will be spending time in a motel. <ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/]</ref>.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T18:28:39Z

Aschlafly: /* Ramifications */

{{ongoing}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Early on the morning of 30 July, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''.<ref name="admission" />
===Transcript ===
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of 30 July, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] (originally intended, prior to the incest allegations, for Chris to attend [[Everfree Northwest]]) arrive in his bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days. After Null obtained evidence that Chris had either contacted Barb in violation of the emergency protective order, or had gained access to Barb's bank account to steal, Null decided to cancel the transfer of the donated monies, and initiate a refund to the donors through gofundme.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>. On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the disinvitation of Chris to the conference.<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref> - which was confirmed by Null. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, the hashtags #CHRIS-CHAN and related topics trended on twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th, <ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref> exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris Chan.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T07:40:19Z

Aschlafly: /* Rape */ redlink

{{ongoing}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]]<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|his mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated his elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

It further emerged that early on the morning of 30 July, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

Due to the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until 30 July 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitting the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}. The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''.<ref name="admission" />
===Transcript ===
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

===Rape===
As early as 2009, Chris-Chan has expressed outright interest in [[IRC_(23_July_2009)|raping an elderly woman,]] [[Rocky]].

Previous encounters between Chris and various [[Gal-Pals]] have resulted in undesirable sexualization. With [[Megan Schroeder]], this manifested in [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] - with the corresponding explanation being that drawing the image, and fantasizing allowed Chris to avoid actual physically assaulting Megan.<ref>[[Megan#Rule 34 and The End of Megan]]</ref>. In interactions with [[Catherine]], Chris reportedly attempted to kiss her, and inappropriately contact her breasts.<ref> [[Catherine#The bowling outing]]</ref>

==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, she has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in his bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days. Later on July 30th, [[Everfree Northwest]] posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the disinvitation of Chris to the conference.<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, the hashtags #CHRIS-CHAN and related topics trended on twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th, <ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref> exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris Chan.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T07:37:52Z

Aschlafly: /* Rape */ link and ref to incidents, edit conflict

{{ongoing}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]]<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|his mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated his elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

It further emerged that early on the morning of 30 July, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

Due to the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until 30 July 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitting the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}. The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''.<ref name="admission" />
===Transcript ===
{{Infobox/video
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| video = {{#ev:youtube|OeiymfweViM}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Reason|text}}
| stardate = 30th [[July 2021]]
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

===Rape===
As early as 2009, Chris-Chan has expressed outright interest in [[IRC_(23_July_2009)|raping an elderly woman,]] [[Rocky]].

Previous encounters between Chris and various [[Gal-Pals]] have resulted in undesirable sexualization. With [[Megan Schroeder]], this manifested in [[She came for CWC]] - with the corresponding explanation being that drawing the image, and fantasizing allowed Chris to avoid actual physically assaulting Megan.<ref>[[Megan#Rule 34 and The End of Megan]]</ref>. In interactions with [[Catherine]], Chris reportedly attempted to kiss her, and inappropriately contact her breasts.<ref> [[Catherine#The bowling outing]]</ref>

==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, she has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in his bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days. Later on July 30th, [[Everfree Northwest]] posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the disinvitation of Chris to the conference.<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, the hashtags #CHRIS-CHAN and related topics trended on twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th, <ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref> exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris Chan.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T07:27:31Z

Aschlafly: Lost in edit conflict

{{ongoing}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On the 29th of July, 2021, evidence emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|his mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated his elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Due the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until the 30th of July, 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.
==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}. The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" - a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''.<ref name="admission" />
===Transcript ===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Incest Discussion
| video = {{#ev:youtube|OeiymfweViM}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Reason|text}}
| stardate = 30th [[July 2021]]
| saga =
| previous =
| next =
}}

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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really [inaudible] G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
}}

==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

===Rape===
As early as 2009, Chris-Chan has expressed outright interest in [[IRC_(23_July_2009)|raping an elderly woman,]] [[Rocky]].

In most of Chris-Chan's attempted romantic encounters, he commits sexual assault ingravescently, be it touching Megan, attempting to force a kiss on Emily, or forcing his face into Catherine's breasts.

==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, she has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in his bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days. Later on July 30th, [[Everfree Northwest]] posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the disinvitation of Chris to the conference.<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, the hashtags #CHRIS-CHAN and related topics trended on twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th, <ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref> exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris Chan.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

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{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|her mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On the 29th of July, 2021, evidence emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|her mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated her elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate her mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including her father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide her mother with an orgasm.

Due the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until the 30th of July, 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas<ref>https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing her from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.
==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and her mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating her mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that her mother compared her to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing her sexual activities with her father's sexual activities}}
==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and her mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to her mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with her mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and her mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

===Rape===
As early as 2009, Chris-Chan has expressed outright interest in [[IRC_(23_July_2009)|raping an elderly woman,]] [[Rocky]].

In most of Chris-Chan's attempted romantic encounters, he commits sexual assault ingravescently, be it touching Megan, attempting to force a kiss on Emily, or forcing her face into Catherine's breasts.

==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, she has been removed from her home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in her bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, the hashtags #CHRIS-CHAN and related topics trended on twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th, <ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref> exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris Chan.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T06:35:12Z

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{{ongoing}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|her mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On the 29th of July, 2021, evidence emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|his mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated his elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Due the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until the 30th of July, 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas<ref>https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.
==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}
==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

===Rape===
As early as 2009, Chris-Chan has expressed outright interest in [[IRC_(23_July_2009)|raping an elderly woman,]] [[Rocky]].

In most of Chris-Chan's attempted romantic encounters, he commits sexual assault ingravescently, be it touching Megan, attempting to force a kiss on Emily, or forcing his face into Catherine's breasts.

==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, she has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in his bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, the hashtags #CHRIS-CHAN and related topics trended on twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th, <ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref> exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris Chan.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T06:18:25Z

Aschlafly: /* Ramifications */ pronouns post transition

{{ongoing}}
'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On the 29th of July, 2021, evidence emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|her mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated her elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate her mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including her father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide her mother with an orgasm.

Due the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until the 30th of July, 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas<ref>https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.
==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and her mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating her mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that her mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing her sexual activities with her father's sexual activities}}
==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and her mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to her mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with her mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and her mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.
==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, she has been removed from her home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in her bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T06:16:32Z

Aschlafly: redlinks

{{ongoing}}
'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On the 29th of July, 2021, evidence emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|her mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated her elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate her mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including her father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide her mother with an orgasm.

Due the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until the 30th of July, 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas<ref>https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.
==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and her mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating her mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that her mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing her sexual activities with her father's sexual activities}}
==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and her mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to her mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with her mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and her mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.
==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from her home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in her bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T06:15:13Z

Aschlafly: various typos, pronouns

{{ongoing}}
'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On the 29th of July, 2021, evidence emerged on [[Kiwifarms]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|her mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated her elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate her mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including her father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide her mother with an orgasm.

Due the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until the 30th of July, 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas<ref>https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.
==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and her mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating her mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that her mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing her sexual activities with her father's sexual activities}}
==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andher mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and her mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to her mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with her mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and her mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.
==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from her home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in her bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==

Affair with Mother

2021-07-31T06:07:26Z

Aschlafly:

{{ongoing}}
'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On the 29th of July, 2021, evidence emerged on [[Kiwifarms]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref> that Chris engaged in sexual activities with [[Barb|his mother]]. A leaked audio recording with an unknown troll, and incriminating text messages showed that Chris had masturbated his elderly mother, and discussed in detail Chris's attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm.

Due the sensational nature of these leaks, they were not considered [[true and honest]] until the 30th of July, 2021, when further evidence emerged of Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to [[Twitter]] user Dillin Thomas<ref>https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. It further emerged that early on the morning of July 30th, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a wellness check, at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at his residence until August 5th. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.
==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}
==Precursor events==
Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris andhis mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a "Bates". OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.
==Ramifications==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As of July 30th, Chris has not been criminally charged. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris cannot afford a hotel, until donations collected by [[Null]] arrive in his bank account, a process which is estimated to take 3 days.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
==References==
{{reflist}}

Christian Weston Chandler

2015-01-06T03:04:10Z

Aschlafly: /* Chris today */

:''This article is about Chris himself... It is his article and nothing less! For the "Sonichu" character, see [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)]]. For other uses, see [[Christian Weston Chandler (disambiguation)]]. ''
:''"Christian" redirects here. For our hero's view on Christianity, see [[Chris and religion]].''

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{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | Chandler Family
|-
| colspan="2" | [[Image:0782-CWCSpread.JPG|300px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Christian Weston Chandler
|-
| '''Birth Name'''
| Christopher Weston Chandler
|-
| '''Full Name'''
| "Christopher" Christian "Ricardo" Weston Chandler
|-
| '''Nicknames'''
| Chris-chan Chris Chan [[Spanish|Ricardo Weston Chandler]] CWC [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] Solid Chris [[JenkinsJinkies|Junior Jenkins]] [[Carlos Chantor]] [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia|KookyDashy]] [[Jackie E-mails 24|Kaka Apple Chrissy]]
|-
| '''Date of Birth'''
| [[Birthday|24 February]] [[1982]] (age 32)
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Male (1982–2011) [[Tomgirl]] (2011–c2012) Unknown (2012-2014) Tomgirl/[[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out...kinda|Lesbian Identified Male]] (2014) Female (2014-present)<ref>http://cwckiforums.com/threads/official-decision-regarding-gender-and-chris.6283/</ref>
|-
| '''Nationality'''
| [[United States of America|American]]
|-
| '''Race'''
| [[Chris and race|White]]
|-
| '''Height'''
| Self reported 5'10" (1.78 m)<ref>[[Match.com#Profile text]]</ref><ref>[[The Hook Cafe#Characteristics]]</ref>
|-
| '''Weight'''
| Self-reported [[WeighIn|216 lbs. (98.2 kg)]]
|-
| '''Parents'''
| [[Bob]] (deceased) [[Barbara]]
|-
| '''Education'''
| [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] ([[CADD]])
|-
| '''Occupation(s)'''
| Freelance comic book artist/writer/videogame designer (unpublished) [[Wendy's]] employee ([[2001]]) [[Cutco]] salesman ([[2003]]) [[Carlos Chantor|Male escort]] ([[2010]], unpaid)
|-
|}
{{quote|I am the [[Slow-in-the-mind|high-functioning]] [[autism|autistic]] person who was heavily [[stress|emotionally damaged]], [[Chris and art|artistic]] [[Things Chris has ripped off|inspiration]] lost with [[Chris and health|paranoia]], [[BlueSpike|deception]], [[Jack Thaddeus|blackmail]] and [[Death threats|plain hurtful words]] from those bottom-feeding [[Trolls]]. I am the [[The Wall of Originals|hand-drawing original]] [[Chris and copyright|creator]] of [[Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]] and the city of [[CWCville|Cwcville]], [[Virginia]], [[United States of America|USA]].|[[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia|KookyDashy]], aka Chris<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20110804190802/http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=57&start=10 Re: We've been found AND mocked horribly! :( ] - The Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia post where Chris reveals himself (archive from 4 Aug 2011)</ref>}}

'''Christian Weston Chandler''' (born '''Christopher Weston Chandler''' on 24 February [[1982]]) is a [[Asperger's|high-functioning]] [[This_is_how_the_Trial_went#The_Trial.|adult autistic child]], thirty-two-year-old, former [[virgin with rage|virgin with rage]], and [[Things Chris has ripped off|creator]] of the infamous [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], a crossover of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and [[Pikachu]]. Christian also stars alongside his [[Chris and copyright|original creations]] in his own self-titled [[Sonichu (comic)|online comic book]].

His adult life has been largely defined by his goal of developing his webcomic ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' into a hit media franchise and his [[Love Quest]] to obtain a "[[boyfriend-free girl|boyfriend-free]], 18-[''my current age'']-year old, caring, [[tobacky|smoke-free]], [[alcohol|non-alcoholic]] [[Chris and race|white]] girl" to make into a "[[sweetheart from the Ground-Up|sweetheart from the ground-up]]."

In late [[2007]], he became [[Internet]]-famous when he caught the attention of [[4chan]] and [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. The initial fascination was spurred on by his willingness to wear a homemade [[Sonichu medallion]] in public, his [[Chris and Art|childlike artwork]] featuring his unoriginal Sonic recolor, and his history of loitering in [[Attraction Locations|public places]] while literally holding up a [[sign]] asking women to talk to him. His reaction to the ensuing mockery led to even greater scrutiny of his life, [[Chris and...|revealing still more disturbing facts about him.]]

==Aliases==
[[Image:093-CWCtoon.jpg|thumb|left|100px|[[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian's hand drawn representation of himself.]]]]

Christian Weston Chandler has a wide array of names he has given himself. He was born Christopher Weston Chandler, but [[Christopher's name change|changed]] to "Christian" at the behest of the "[[Leonard Bearstein|bear conductor]]". In either case, he answers to "Chris" and "Chris-Chan". [[Autism|Unusually]], Chris will often refer to himself by his full name, or if he's feeling especially formal, "Christopher Christian Weston Chandler". He is unusually proud of his initials "CWC" and often incorporates them into his creations and various puns on the word "quick".

Chris's nickname in his high school [[Spanish]] classes was "Ricardo", and to this day he translates his own name to "Ricardo Weston Chandler" when writing or speaking in Spanish, likely due to his ignorance of the fact that you generally don't translate your own name when speaking in another language. At times he will literally announce himself as "Christopher Christian 'Ricardo' Weston Chandler", or variants thereof, to precisely identify himself.

Occasionally, Chris will use the names of his characters to refer to himself, most notably his evil twin, [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc]], and of course, [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]. In his [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], Chris has the ability to transform into an [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]], named [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]].

The only names commonly used to refer to Chris which he did not himself invent are "Chrissy" (popularized by [[Arjen Van Dierten]]) and [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] (popularized by [[Liquid Chris]]). Less notably, there is also the seldom-used "Solid Chris", used by some to differentiate him from Liquid in the tradition of a [[Metal Gear Solid|certain video game series]].
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==Overview==
[[Image:Chris-Straw.jpg|thumb|left|[[The Oversized Drinking Straw of Fail|An infamous image Chris drew of himself enjoying a soda.]]]]

Chris is a timid, [[autism|autistic]], man with [[chris and his ego|delusional tendencies]] who has been allowed - by his parents, [[Bob Chandler]] and [[Barbara Chandler]] - to eternally live like a child, amassing [[toys]] and [[video games]] into a single [[room]] in his parents' [[14 Branchland Court|house]]. Now thirty-two years old, he is so comfortable in his protected existence that he refuses to conform to the norms of society, such as "you must [[Chris and health#Hygiene|bathe]] regularly," "you cannot loiter in a store all day [[Attraction Sign|waiting]] for people to talk to you," and "you should use the washroom if you think you may [[dirty crapped briefs|soil yourself]]." Although the public school system forced Chris to face society, graduation has allowed Christian to stay indoors and avoid taking part in typical civilian activities. Due to this avoidance of the outside world, Chris has never held a steady [[Chris's resume|job]], or even been employed for more than a few months in his whole life. Nor has he had many meaningful relationships with people in a social setting. Christian's main impressions of people now come from the [[trolls]] and [[white knights]] he meets online.

Chris is completely obsessed with his character [[Sonichu]], to the point that he has hand-crafted several [[medallions]] in the shape of Sonichu and related characters. Between February [[2004]] and [[March 2010]], Chris was rarely seen or photographed without one of these totems, even wearing them in his [[:Image:License.jpg|driver's license photo]] and to his [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|college]] graduation. At the same time, he is absolutely convinced that everyone wants to learn all about Sonichu, and that the only reason [[Nintendo]], Sega, and [[Sony]] haven't approached him about making Sonichu games is that they're either trying to be tough negotiators, or that his chances are being ruined by [[trolls]] working in the companies. The medallion returned in [[September 2010]].

Chris absolutely hates [[homos|gay men]], and communicates this with such intensity that observers are easily convinced he's simply terrified of becoming gay himself. He cannot bear to look at another man's [[pickle|penis]], and he stares at [[Sailor Moon Poster of Fail|Sailor Moon]] to keep himself straight.<ref>[[Chris Destroys His Vibrator]]</ref> Chris' words do not always align with his actions; Christian appears to be deeply insecure about his gender. He has [[recycling|swallowed his own semen]], [[Sports bra photo series|wears a bra]], and only reins in his [[Tomgirl Pictures|tendency to proudly cross-dress]] because his elderly mother intensely disapproves. While these actions do not indicate homosexuality outright, they do question the validity of Christian's own judgements on his sexual orientation. Surprisingly, however, his homophobia seems to have little basis in his religious beliefs, as he had not noticed Leviticus 18:22, which condemns homosexuality, until he saw it on a 2009 episode of ''[[Family Guy]]''.<ref>[[CWC with Bible - Leviticus]]</ref> However, his homophobia does not extend to lesbians, whom he "partly encourages" and is even aroused by.
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== Early life ==

In 24 February 1982, Chris was born to [[Robert]] and [[Barbara Chandler]]. He was born in the [[United States]], specifically in the state of [[Virginia]], and of course, is a citizen of the US. Not much was known about Chris in his toddler years, but the signs of autism didn't creep up until he was older. At the time, he was a pretty normal kid.

===Childhood and adolescence===
[[Image:Lapse.gif|left]]

[[Image:0147-CWCsMilkcapsAcrossTime.jpg|240px|thumb|The evolution (or decay, depending upon how you see things) of Chris-chan...in a [[Wikipedia:Pogs|pog]] form (yes, those are homemade pogs). Top: Chris '94, '95, '96. Bottom: '97, '98', '99.]]

Chris claims his first word, "monkey", was spoken at six weeks old,<ref name="Wikipedia early">[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref> and he remains proud of this feat into his thirties regardless of how obviously unlikely and physically impossible it is to be true - the language centers in the human brain literally cannot grasp English at six weeks, disregarding infantile vocal chords.

An [[abusive babysitter]], who was alone with Christopher every day for years,<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-3.PNG|6 March 2007 email from Cole to Chris, page 3]]</ref> allegedly locked him in a room at an early age.<ref name="Wikipedia early" /> Chris apparently misses the irony in the fact the he now locks himself in a [[Chris's room|room]]. He once identified this confinement as the source of his autism. Between the ages of one and seven, Chris did not speak at all, and had to visit [[James Madison University]] for speech therapy. He was diagnosed as being autistic, with the doctor projecting (at least according to Chris) that he would never make it to high school, much less be able to write his own name.<ref>[[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)]]</ref>

During the [[1980s]], Christopher was playmates with [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]]. One day, she convinced him that Casper the Friendly Ghost lived in the crawlspace under her house, and when he crawled in there to look, she locked him in,<ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood|Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares, page 4]]</ref> beginning Chris's lifelong career of getting trolled. Apparently, he doesn't hold any hard feelings over it (possibly just because she's a girl—if a guy did that to him, Chris would vow vengeance).

In [[1989]], noted ursine conductor Leonard Bearstein misheard Christopher's first name and called him "Christian", which inexplicably convinced Christopher to later have his name [[Christopher's name change|legally changed]].

Chris spent the [[1990s|1990-1991]] school year in the fourth grade at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]], until his parents pulled him out of classes over a mysterious dispute. Chris claims that he was forcefully restrained by the school's faculty<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007]]</ref> and that he was made to sit on the lap of the [[Bruce Johnson|principal]], an experience that supposedly inspired his homophobia. It's possible that Chris's opinions about these events are colored more by his parents' attitudes than his own memories. The issue went to court, with Greene County seeking to have Chris sent to a "special school", which Bob and Barbara likely interpreted to mean a nut-house. Chris was home-schooled through the fifth grade during these proceedings. When his family exhausted all legal recourse, Chris and his father relocated to [[Richmond]] so that Chris could continue his education in a different school system, starting with the sixth grade in fall 1992.<ref name="Wikipedia early" />

At age 11, Chris entered and won the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]]. On his twelfth birthday, he enjoyed a $1,000 shopping spree as his prize. Local news coverage of the event focused on Chris's autism, regarding the contest win as a worthy accomplishment due to his mental condition. Chris put footage from this newscast on [[YouTube]] long before he was known to general public, and it remains the most solid evidence that he is not [[Liquid Chris|some elaborate troll]]. This incident is often cited as the beginning of Chris's tendency to use his autism as leverage for special treatment, as well as his fascination with toys and video games at the expense of more mature pursuits. It has led Chris to constantly enter contests in hopes of winning big (or else [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|becoming infuriated and belligerent to the winners]] when he loses).

<center><gallery>
Image:0002-BabyChristopher.jpg|Even as a baby, he was unusually ugly. Looks kind of like Baby Selwyn from ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braindead_%28film%29 Braindead]''.
Image:0003-ChristopherApr1985.jpg|Age 3, actually a pretty cute kid.
Image:0001-ChristopherInSchool.jpg|Holding a prototype [[Sonichu Balls|Sonichu ball]].
Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg|[[Chris and fashion|Chris's taste in clown shirts begins]], coupled with his infamous "deer in headlights" [[Creepy stare|stare]].
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[[Image:0240-ChristianCBBall97.jpg|120px|thumb|left|CWC the water boy. PRO TIP: Don't drink anything from one of Chris's [[fapcup|cups]].]]

[[Image:CWC12.png|120px|thumb|Hard to believe, but this photo has not been airbrushed to perfection.]]

Chris spent much of his time in [[Manchester High School|high school]] playing video games at home, reading R.L. Stine horror novels, and hanging out with his "[[gal pals]]" and "[[Joseph Herring|friend]]" at school. It was at this time that he first put his "creative talents" to use, with the inventions of [[Bionic the Hedgehog]] and Sonichu.<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_22]</ref> Chris claims to have been on the [[honor roll]], and during this time acquired the true source of his powers, his [[high school ring]].

Because the art award he wanted was given to someone else, Chris stormed out cried during his [[Manchester High School#Graduation|high school graduation]]. He honestly thought he deserved the award more than anyone else because he worked on it "so hard" in spite of his autism. Another reason for his sorrow was his fear that he might soon have to grow up and start acting like an adult.<ref>[[:Image:0567-GraduationNote2.jpg|DVD, graduation note 2]]</ref> Evidently, this fear was unfounded.

Since leaving high school and the happiest years of his life, Chris has been unwilling and unable to progress in any aspect of his life. He remains trapped in a childish, Year [[2000]] [[Time Void|time-warp]], as he believes that whatever he was doing at the time was what helped him attract female companions. That his high school gal-pals have moved on and married real adult men with careers is of little consequence to him.

{{collapsible
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Image:444-MecheFox.JPG|This should win a prize.
Image:445-SonicTotem.JPG|Not creepy.
Image:470-CWCCoilPot.JPG|Chris's Like Like.
Image:475-RelaxingCWC1.JPG|Chris relaxing. Not scary at all.
Image:476-RelaxingCWC2.JPG|Uh...
Image:471-ChristophersLeatherFace.JPG|Chris calls this his "leather face". Apparently, he's never seen ''Texas Chainsaw Massacre''.
Image:467-CWCPlate.JPG|This plate helps you lose weight - look at it and you'll want to vomit.
Image:doorfish.jpg|You put this over your door to keep away would be thieves.
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===Adult Chronicles===
[[Image:0781-CWCspdbed.JPG|thumb|One of Chris's promotional images for his [[Love Quest]].]]

Chris's entry into [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] probably eased his inability to cope with life after high school. He took courses in [[CADD|Computer Aided Drafting and Design]] and began spending more time on ''Sonichu'', launching a [[Sonichu's News Dash| newsletter]] and circulating it on the PVCC campus. Over time, he began losing touch with his gal-pals from high school, and he presumably found the junior college crowd less willing to humor him and his personal idiosyncrasies. By his own admission his social life at PVCC was lacking when compared to his high school years.<ref>[[Story of My Current Days#Story of My Current Days]]</ref><ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares]], page 10.</ref>

Chris says he decided he needed a [[sweetheart]] in February [[2003]]. Possibly driven by his discovery that his old friend [[Sarah Hammer]] had begun dating [[Wes Iseli]], Chris started his [[Love Quest]] in earnest that summer. However, he quickly found that every girl he talked to had a boyfriend (or so they claimed). Chris soon became neurotic about the "[[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]]" and began concocting and employing various bizarre methods to attract women without actually having to approach or speak to them.

Chris's most celebrated technique involved sitting in one place (or pacing back and forth) for hours, holding a [[sign]] that read "I am a (Chris's age then)-Year Old, Single Male, seeking an 18-(Chris's age then)-Year Old, Single Female Companion." Amazingly, this strategy accomplished nothing beyond getting him into trouble with various [[jerkops|authority]] [[manajerks|figures]] who believed that he was loitering and/or soliciting sex, which is basically true. Chris was particularly affected by a series of confrontations with the [[PVCC]] dean [[Mary Lee Walsh]] over his attraction techniques, resulting in an ongoing, completely one-sided blood feud involving [[Curse ye ha me ha|magic powers]] and [[Mary Lee Walsh#Mary Lee Walsh in Sonichu|slander]]. After a series of confrontations featuring increasingly bizarre and threatening behavior on Chris's part, Walsh expelled him for one year in [[2004]]. He eventually returned, however, obtaining an associate's degree in May [[2006]].

After college, Chris promptly dropped out of society, devoting his life to finding a [[boyfriend-free girl]], drawing ''Sonichu'', [[masturbation|masturbating]], and using his [[monthly tugboat|welfare money]] to buy video games and [[sex toys]].

[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|left|He can smell fear.]]

In [[2005]], Chris met [[Megan Schroeder]] at a [[The GAMe PLACe|local game and card shop]]. A social outcast like himself, Megan proved unusual in that she was willing to talk to Chris for more than five minutes. The two quickly became close friends, although Megan claimed to have recently endured a bad break-up and refused to entertain Chris's obvious romantic interest. Chris, seemingly basing his stance on studying women in porn and [[anime]], believed that the key to turning Megan's platonic feelings romantic was to make inappropriate advances toward her until she had to tell him to stop touching her.

In the summer of [[2007]], Chris put it all on the line by entering the [[PaRappa the Rapper Contest|''PaRappa the Rapper'' Contest]] so that he could win prizes and a trip for two to Seattle, which formed the centerpiece of his plan to finally score with Megan. The contest ended in disaster for Chris, as he lost to the dreaded [[Adam Stackhouse]] and subsequently learned that Megan wouldn't have gone with him on the trip even if he had won.

It was during the Love Quest that Chris was inspired to launch ''Sonichu'', a comic book series featuring his [[Electric-Hedgehog Pokémon]]. Ostensibly, the comic was intended to focus on the life and times of Chris's unbelievably original character, but by halfway through the first issue the focus of the story had become Chris and his myriad romantic misadventures.

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==Discovery==
{{main|2007|2008}}
[[Image:110-SchuSiteIdea2.jpg|thumb|FUCK YEAH!!!]]

{{quote|Geez, when you have '''me''' facepalming at you, you have got to be pretty bad off.|[http://encyclopediadramatica.es/David_Gonterman David Gonterman] on Chris.}}

Chris's rare talent was discovered when someone posted an anonymous picture of Sonichu on [[4-cent garbage|4chan]]. It only took a quick Google search of Chris's name to discover the picture's author, and Chris's miserable existence spilled over onto [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] in October 2007. His life hasn't been the same since then.

[[File:ChrisMomsPanties.jpg|thumb|left|Chris in [[2008]].]]

Upon learning of the "Chris-chan" article on ED, Chris released a single [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement|YouTube video]] attempting to diplomatically convince the site to remove the page. Failing in this, he then spent the next several months [[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica|vandalizing]] the article in the vain hope of overwhelming his enemies. This catastrophically backfired as Chris, in an attempt to prove himself as lurid as the [[trolls]], revealed a great deal of embarrassing information, most notably [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a portrait of himself fingerbanging Megan]] that ruined his most important relationship at the time. By the spring of [[2008]] Chris would be banned from both [[The Game Place|his favorite hangout]] (temporarily. But he was banned permanently in August 2008) and [[Grace Baptist Church|his parents' church]] for reasons at least partially related to information brought to light by the ED article.

In August 2008, Chris [[CWC's Second Message|declared]] [[Attention All Sonichu Fans (NOT HATERS)|war]] upon Encyclopedia Dramatica in a series of videos, threatening to withhold publication of the upcoming [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] unless his vast [[fan base]] rallied to force ED to remove the "Chris-chan" article. When ED suffered outages unrelated to this crusade, Chris [[Kudos to the Encyclopedia DramaDestruction|took credit and declared victory]], guaranteeing that he would be under constant fire from trolls for years to come. This began an endless cycle in which Chris would produce [[videos]], comics, and harebrained schemes to attack the trolls, which would in turn encourage more and more trolls to provoke him for his hilarious responses.

The cycle was briefly disrupted in the fall of 2008 when Chris sent his various [[medallions]] to his [[Blanca Weiss|fake Internet girlfriend]], who immediately destroyed them and broke up with him. This emotional heartbreak and the release of ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' reduced Chris's output of videos and other sources of [[lulz]]. At the same time, Encyclopedia Dramatica began cracking down on trolls using Chris's ED page as a forum for discussing him, and in general opinion was divided as to whether it was lulzy or faggy to continue harassing him. The resulting schism led to the creation of numerous websites (such as [[CWCki|this one]] singularly devoted to trolling Chris), which has only expanded the coverage of Chris's hijinks.

==Chris today==
{{main|2008|2009|2010|2011|2012|2013|2014}}
[[File:Ecp00066.jpg|thumb|Chris in [[2009]].]]

By late 2008, trolls controlled many aspects of Chris's life by posing as dedicated [[fans]], [[sweethearts]], cartoonish enemies, and prospective business partners. Chris's ego and [[naïve|naïveté]] readily embraced this brave new world in which every woman wanted to fuck him, and every man was either trying to help him sell ''Sonichu'' products or steal the franchise for their own nefarious goals. Trolls would begin denoting major events in Chris's life as "[[saga]]s" such as the [[Miyamoto]] Saga, the [[Julie]] Saga, the [[Ivy]] Saga, the [[Liquid Chris|Liquid]] Saga, and the [[Asperchu]] Saga. All the while, the [[CWCki]] maintains a constant record of these events, ensuring that Chris cannot get away with his highly selective and revisionary treatment of his history.

[[File:Personalprofile.jpg|thumb|left|''[[OkCupid|Hello]], [[The Hook Cafe|ladies]][[Carlos Chantor|!]]'' Chris in [[2010]].]]

Following his disastrous failure to woo [[The Wallflower|a real girl]] in March [[2010]], Chris began to realize what anyone else would have figured out a long time ago: his toxic [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] presence is having a detrimental effect upon his real life, and each new video he creates only makes it worse. This realization appears to have led him to reduce his online presence and to stop donning Sonichu medallions and [[Chris and fashion|striped shirts]].

In [[November 2010]], around the same time another romantic saga involving [[Jackie|another sweetheart]] ended in failure, Chris announced he will no longer socialize online or publish videos of himself. Subsequently, all videos save for the last one were removed from his YouTube channel. However, his Internet activity had not completely ceased since he retired from YouTube. Chris later returned with new videos in [[August 2011]].

[[File:TG20.jpg|thumb|Chris in [[2011]], near the time of his father's death.]]

Perhaps the most dramatic change in Chris’s life was his open and enthusiastic embrace of cross-dressing and femininity in general. In [[2011]], Chris was revealed to have become a full blown transvestite (or "[[Tomgirl Saga|tomgirl]]", as he calls it) and fully embraced his new identity both at home and in public. Chris seems to have reconciled this behaviour with his extreme homophobia and purported heterosexuality without any difficulty. Though treated as yet another saga at first, this behaviour seems to be deeply entrenched and has only gotten more extreme as of late 2014 (see below).

In [[September 2011]], Chris's [[Bob Chandler|father]] died of heart failure. Chris continues to live with his widowed mother, who along with the [[monthly tugboat|tugboat]] is his only source of income. Since his [[mother]] Barbara is in her 70s, it can be reasonably assumed that she has little time left on this earth, especially when her poor health is taken into account.

Since Bob's death, Chris has seldom interacted with trolls, and is seemingly no longer able to effortlessly bounce back from despair like he used to, and has instead lapsed into deep depression, no doubt exacerbated by the later loss of his home to fire, and subsequent financial difficulties. In the aftermath of Bob's death, many trolls began to question whether Chris deserved or indeed, could cope with any further trolling, given that he was no longer the bellicose, [[Chris and fashion|clown-shirted]] egocentric that the world had come to know. If one thing is certain, it is that Chris's glory days of screaming into a camera like a madman and performing like a circus animal for trolls offering [[china]] are over.

[[File:Christran2.jpg|thumb|left|Chris in [[2012]].]]

In [[October 2011]], Chris and Barb were [[28 October 2011|arrested]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]] and charged on several counts including trespassing, assault, and failure to stop at an accident causing over $1,000 in damage after an altercation with [[Michael Snyder]]. The trespassing and assault charges against Chris were dropped, but both still face felony trials for the failure to stop, and Barb for assaulting a police officer.
[[File:Chris march2013.jpg|thumb|Chris in [[2013]].]]

In [[April 2012]], Chris declared that he finally lost his virginity. This was later confirmed to be true... [[Other documents#Chris's wingman|at the hands of a prostitute]]. 2012 was otherwise uneventful, probably because Chris was in trouble with [[Chris and the Law|the law]].

[[2013]] saw Chris's life more or less confined to ranting on [[Facebook]] and [[Twitter]], as well as making himself a pariah to people in real life through his actions. He began blaming people to their face for his own shortcomings which resulted in him leaving his church, getting chewed out by a voice actress from [[My Little Pony|one of his favorite shows]], upsetting the few friends he has left with his homophobia and getting thrown out of a [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]] for committing blatant vandalism. He has also complained about the 'stress' taking its toll on his health ([[Chris and Health|this, at least, is evident]]) and pined incessantly about being "lonely". Even the "gal-pals" Chris so fondly talked about in his high school days would end up betraying him - he found out around Halloween 2013 that they had only tolerated him out of pity and, having discovered them, were just as revolted by his antics as much as the next sane person. Of course, the miseries Chris was lamenting at this time were almost entirely products of his own behaviour coming back to haunt him, something he clearly did not realise.

The year 2013 also saw the rise of quite a few new white knights as well (including actual friends he met in real life) all of whom tried to offer constructive advice to Chris, although their advice was unwelcome information and thus totally ignored, as tradition dictates. This year of Chris's life seemed to have been most characterised by his flagrant disrespect of people, things and ideas around him, resulting in his exile and loneliness which he idiotically (but predictably) did not connect with his appalling behaviour.
[[File:Chris 15 Aug 2014 changed profile pic.jpg|thumb|left|Chris in [[2014]], his long, lank, thin hair receding in earnest.]]

At first, it seemed that [[2014]] would just be business as usual. That is, until [[January 2014|January]] 10th when, in a cataclysmic display of the [[Naïve|idiocy]] we've come to expect from him, Chris thought it would be a good idea to brew coffee in the bathroom of his garbage-filled house with an extension cord, leading to him [[Destruction Of Chris's House|setting his own house on fire]]. Luckily, no-one (animal or human) was seriously harmed, although the resulting damages have forced him and his mother to temporarily [[Rental House|move out and trash a different house]]. Almost all of the Chandler possessions were destroyed in the fire, including most of Chris's [[Megan Shrine|vast]] [[Lego|hoard]] [[Trading Cards|of]] [[DVD|stupid]] [[Kimmi|shit]]. On a sadder note, most if not all of [[Bob|Bob's]] possessions would have been destroyed, including his huge record collection.

Since then, Chris and his mother have been having [[Chris and money|acute financial difficulties]], and Chris has spent most of the year alternating between begging and taking the odd commission to make more of his horrendous "art" on Facebook, or in a new display of [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]], selling autographed photos of himself on eBay ([[Trolls|you can guess who most of his patrons are]]). Nonetheless, this hasn't stopped Chris from blowing literal thousands of dollars on [[Lego|children's toys]]. Naturally, his "art" and photographs are only really of any value to trolls, and thankfully few people have been foolish enough to [[Monthly tugboat|give him hand-outs]]. Which is for the best, given that he may finally be forced to face a situation his mother [[Hooker incident|can't]] [[28 October 2011|bail him]] [[Chris and money|out of]], and maybe, just maybe, learn something from it. [[Chris and reality|But]] [[Chris and his Ego|probably not]].
[[File:ChrisMugshot.jpg|thumb|right|Chris, as he enters 2015]]

More [[Autism|curiously]], [[Chris and reality|Chris began identifying as a lesbian]] in [[August 2014]], and denied that there is no such thing as a male lesbian ([[Chris and reality|citing Yahoo Answers as proof]]). While he seemed to soften his stance on [[Homos|gay men]] (''very'' reluctantly), he also indicated that he hated his own [[Duck|penis]], in addition to his pre-existing hatred of penises in general.

In July, Chris claimed to have a [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|girlfriend]]. Needless to say, many [[Megan Schroeder|doubted it]] [[Wallflower|would last]].

As of Halloween, Chris has been swanning around attending (and likely ruining) LGBTQ events around Charlottesville, including attending a Halloween party at a gay bar dressed as a lesbian from the 70s. At such events, he obviously mingles with people infinitely more accepting and kind than himself. This necessarily will result either in Chris becoming a better person or in Chris being banned and ostracised from these gatherings. If history suggests a single thing, it is that the latter scenario will occur.

In early November, it was confirmed that his [[Catherine|latest sweet-heart]] was yet another troll persona. This has led to an outpouring of disappointment and disgust from many of his [[CWCki Forums|unappreciated abettors]], who were hoping that, for once, Chris had got lucky. It is unclear, but likely, that she was the same woman mentioned above who was dating him in July.

This glimmer of pity was extinguished in December, as Chris [[GameSpot Assault|broke three laws in one outing to]] [[GameStop]] on Boxing Day. His main offence was assaulting an employee who was calling security, supposedly with pepper spray; showing that, again, Chris has yet to learn anything from his mistakes, if he even regards them as mistakes [[Chris and his ego|to begin with]]. Only time will tell how much trouble Chris has landed himself in [[Chris and the law|this time]], but given his current [[Chris and money|financial status]] and [[28 October 2011|history]], it can't be good. Needless to say, Chris has no one to blame but himself for this mess, which isn't to say he won't try.

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==See also==
* [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)]] - Chris's depiction of himself within his own comics.
* [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] - Chris's furry alter ego.
* [[:Category:DVD slideshow images|Hundreds of personal photographs]] assembled for use in Chris's autobiographical [[DVD]].
* [[User:GodofThunderGodofWar]] - Chris's own CWCki account!

==References==
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==External links==
[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4813395/ Christian Weston Chandler] at the [[Wikipedia:Internet Movie Database|Internet Movie Database]]

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GameStop

2014-12-28T19:52:49Z

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[[Image:SchuGameStop.jpg|thumb|From ''[[Sub-Episode 1]]'']]

'''GameStop''' is a large [[video game]] store chain from which [[Chris]] buys his consoles and games.

Within the [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]], GameStop locations appear in [[CWCville Mall]] in ''[[Sonichu 0|Sonichu #0]]'', and in the [[Sho-Mall Region]] in ''[[Sub-Episode 1]]'' .

In [[2008]], Chris won $400 in the [[GameStop Be A Star Sweepstakes]] ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' contest after an uncoordinated [[troll]] attack backfired.

Chris also supposedly met [[Chloe]] there while the two of them were preordering ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]''.

==2009 sighting==
On 23 [[November 2009]], a post was made on a gaming forum by a GameStop employee.<ref>[http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/threads/54444-CWC-Chris-Chan?p=1064427996#post1064427996]</ref> The post documented a real life encounter with Chris and contained four pictures.

The employee, named Angel, had some knowledge of Chris prior to this meeting, thanks to Chris's [[ED]] page. Angel made a wager with a [[gal-pal]] that if he was to ever take a picture with Chris, she and Angel would have to get married. The gal pal accepted this challenge—yet another example of [[Liquid Chris|people]] [[Kacey|finding]] true love through [[trolling]] Chris.

Angel's forum post:

{{quotebox|Pic 1: Don't the teen affectations, I hadda do the duck lips and peace sign as part of the wedding bet, oh, I had to touch him also.

Pic 2: [[Sonichu]] Shrinkey Dinks, bitches, copywritten and all.

Pic 3: Siggy, I need to get an extra for my fiance, but it needs to be personalized and say "love" at least once.

Pic 4: His card.

Basically, I've known this girl since she was 12, we discovered him sometime earlier this year and after some creative googling, I discovered he was a local. Then I started to remember him from [[The GAMe PLACe|The Game Place]] on Fridays, [[Pokemon]] night--easier to find an [[Boyfriend-free girl|unattached girl]] when she's [[Pedofork|only 9]], I guess. I told my friend and she accused me of lying, so we made a bet, her idea, her hand, for my pic with him.

Everyone at the store, hell the whole GameStop corporation, knows this guy, he's a bottomless pit of lulz for us, which I'll share soon. Oddly they didn't know about the orange soda and semen drinking. Anyhow, Once the deal was made, I swore everyone in the store to calling me once he shows. A month or so back, he showed up at the GH5 contest blood drive and I was working.

I motion to Kyle to stop him from walking out the door because I was busy and Kyle pussied out, so I yelled out "I-is that... Sonichu?" he did a 180 so fast there was a sonic boom and immediately made for me. He started talking to me about that shitty comic of his, and I hadda pretend to be into it. But I got my pic and my wife. I'll post pics of her at some point, if she says yes to it.}}

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File:Chrisangel02.png|True and Honest
File:Chrisangel03.png|My card.
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==In 2014==
{{main|GameStop Assault}}
[[File:Chris chan dec 2014.png|thumb|Chris with his tongue out. We don't know why, either.]]

In [[December 2014]] Chris was caught vandalising a [[Sonic Boom Protests|Sonic Boom]] display in GameStop, [[GameSpot Assault|the result]] was recorded by a bystander and ended up on Tumblr. As a [[JERKS|male]] [[Manajerks|member of staff]] called security, Chris stormed out, saying "[[Chris and negotiation|Don't call anybody!]]" and sprayed the poor man, with mace, according to the person who recorded this. Chris clearly still has no idea how to behave in public, as he continues to deface store property (in fact he's lucky not to have been arrested for vandalism yet), abuse staff, and generally turn heads for all the wrong reasons. Moreover, his actions clearly show that [[Chris and reality|he believes]] [[Ego|he is]] [[Chris and the law|answerable]] [[Chris and religion|to no-one]].

Moreover, Chris violated a previous ban from the store to do this, which is why he is wearing a pair of [[Chris and fashion|purple toy sunglasses]], [[Honor roll|as some sort of disguise]]. A troll from [[4-cent garbage|4chan]] supposedly called the employee Chris has attacked, who confirmed he will be pressing charges. If this is true, it looks like it'll finally bring an end to Chris's lucky streak of getting off the hook with warnings or bans which he clearly ignores anyway.

==References==
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2014

2014-12-28T19:50:09Z

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[[File:Chris-chan 010714.JPG|thumb|Chris in [[July 2014]].]]

'''2014''' is the sixth year of organized trolling since Chris's discovery. Like [[2011|the]] [[2012|three]] [[2013|years]] before it, it appeared as if it would have started off with nothing of note ''(save for the occasional rant by Chris on his [[Facebook]] account)''...until it was revealed on the 11th of January that the Chandler household caught fire. Similar to incidents involving his [[28 October 2011|past arrest]] and the passing of [[Bob Chandler]], this was a major dilemma facing his family, and some speculated that these big changes in his life would bring about big changes in Chris himself. Chris did undergo some changes, but they were mostly either irrelevant or just further steps towards complete insanity. Some trolls have noted, however, that given all that has happened to him, Chris has lost a lot of energy, and has begun to show signs of being mentally burned out.

Following the fire, Chris began to sell some of his stuff for money, such as his [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing‎]]. This is notable as, for a change, Chris is actually earning some of his money instead of purely relying on his [[Monthly Tugboat]], something which was not seen since his days at [[Wendy's]].
Though many problems have more or less sorted themselves out in the past year, this year does continue the fallout from 2013. In August, Chris augmented his tomgirlish ways and came out as a "Lesbian-Identified Male", and began attending LGBT events around Charlottesville (likely against the wishes of other attendees). He also revealed he found himself [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|a new girlfriend]], later confirmed to be a troll.

Around the release of the new [[Sonic]] game, ''Sonic Boom'', Chris became consumed by a vehement desire to denounce the game, encouraging others to boycott it and even defacing in-store copies of the game. Chris's cited reason for this behaviour is, in true CWC fashion, because of an extremely minor design element present only on this non-canon part of the franchise; Sonic's arms are blue.

On the bright side, however, at the end of the year, Chris announced that 14 Branchland Court was finally repaired, and would be moving back in [[2015]]. Unfortunately, Chris has seen fit to fuck up his chances of going home ''(as well as any sympathy the trolls were starting to have for him)'' - he was recorded assaulting an innocent GameStop employee with pepper spray, an action that landed him in ''jail'', awaiting trial on the 29th, literally 2 days before the end of the year.

==January==
[[File:IMG 0532 zps78876bfb.jpg|thumb|240px|[[14 Branchland Court]], 1-2 days after its [[Destruction Of Chris's House|destruction]].]]
{{main|January 2014}}
This month began with little note, until [[Destruction Of Chris's House‎|Chris's house caught fire]]. The rest of the month was mostly spent on recovering.

==February==
{{main|February 2014}}
Chris turns 32. Two videos are leaked: [[Hello, my sweety baby]] and [[Message for John Kyle]].

==March==
{{main|March 2014}}
Some [[Misc E-mails|e-mails]] were leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]], one of them provides interesting info about Chris's days at [[Manchester High School]], involving him getting bullied on a daily basis. Chris was also rumoured to be shoplifting at Best Buy, with Chris posted two Facebook posts about this rumour.

==April==
{{main|April 2014}}
[[File:April 2014 Target sighting.jpg|thumb|April sighting in Target.]]
Pictures of Chris's house and info about the [[Rental House]] are leaked. Chris is spotted at a local [[Target]] by a reddit user.

==May==
{{main|May 2014}}

Chris lists some old airplane models and a violin on [[eBay]]. He begs for [[Lego]] on Facebook, and confirms that [[Simonla_Rosechu#Resurrection|Simonla has been resurrected]].

==June==
[[File:OriginalSonichuAndRosechuDrawingChris1.JPG|left|thumb|Chris in June 2014.]]

{{main|June 2014}}
Chris tried to sell a painting on [[eBay]], but was suspended. He then tried again, and was suspended again. Meanwhile, a troll snuck into [[14 Branchland Court]] and recovered [[Manchester High Leaks|some documents]] which feature samples of his academic work, and show that he received [[Honor Roll|very poor marks]].

==July==
[[File:Okcupid 8 jul 2014 6.jpg|thumb|180px|Chris in July.]]
{{main|July 2014}}
Chris sells [[autographed photos]] of himself on eBay. Also, his latest [[OkCupid]] profile was found by [[CWCki Forums|Forums]] user.

11 July was last day of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]]'s two-year-long probation, her sentence from the trial for the events of [[28 October 2011]].

==August==
[[File:Chris 15 Aug 2014 changed profile pic.jpg|thumb|left|180px|"Lesbian Identified Man and a Cross-Dressing Tranny" in August.]]
{{main|August 2014}}
Chris comes out on Facebook as "Lesbian Identified Male" and self described "Intersex" "Cross-Dressing Tranny." He also expresses solidarity with the movement for LGBT equality, although he is very unhappy about having to include [[Homos|gay males]]. He also reveals he has a new girlfriend.

==September==
[[File:Chris chan sep14.jpg|thumb|180px|Chris in September.]]
{{main|September 2014}}

Chris sells tons of stuff on eBay, and obtains materials to make more [[medallion]]s and mass-produces them.

==October==
{{main|October 2014}}
[[File:Chrischan_oct14.jpg|thumb|left|Chris in October.]]
This month is notable in that it marked a significant resurgence in video-making, as well as more possibilities about his [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|anonymous galpal]], his growing (professed) support for LGBT activism, and his ongoing hatred for eBay (especially after the [[To Mr. Smith|Mr. Smith fiasco]]) and ''Sonic Boom''.

==November==
{{main|November 2014}}
Chris spent this month mostly raging over the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] Boom'' game, before he embarrassed himself silly while raging over a small brushfire occuring near his house, and accidentally doxxed himself yet again. His Facebook friends then helped him make a new version of [[CWC's Sonichu Site!]], which lasts for just 10 days prior to being shut down due to 404 errors, DDoS attacks, and complaints over its name--"[[Aspergers|Sperg]]web". Then, it ended on a particularly depressing note for him, as he was quickly booted off his Keep Sonic Original group for making graphic [[death threats]] to Sega.

==December==
{{main|December 2014}}
*25 December - [[Christmas]]. Sadly for Chris, no [[sweetheart]] under the C-Mas tree this year.
*27 December - Chris is seen defacing a Sonic Boom display at GameStop. His escape is caught on video. It is so far unknown if security caught him [http://monozettai.tumblr.com/post/106261810945/so-i-ran-into-someone-today-while-i-was-waiting Link]

== Sources ==
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2014-12-28T03:04:46Z

Aschlafly:

'''Andrew Schlafly''' is a conservative lawyer and former engineer. Mr. Schlafly is also the founder of Conservapedia.

Andrew Schlafly is the fifth child of attorney John Fred Schlafly, Jr. and noted political activist Phyllis Schlafly. His great-grandfather, August Schlafly, was founder of the Union Trust and Savings Bank of East St. Louis, Ill., the First National Bank of Edwardsville, Ill., and other banks in Western states.

He graduated from Princeton University with a bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science. A magna cum laude graduate from Harvard Law School, he was an editor of the ''Harvard Law Review''.

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GameSpot Assault

2014-12-28T02:51:10Z

Aschlafly:

On December 27th, 2014, [[Chris Chan]] was caught at the local [[Gamestop]], in [[Charlottesville]] where he was caught defacing a [[Sonic|Sonic Boom]] display, before being confronted by an employee. According to the video posted by an anonymous tumblrite<ref>https://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_nh7nsg7gp41taqnhx_480.mp4#_=_ or https://videobin.org/+8ev/b90.html</ref>, Chris Chan briefly sprayed an employee with an unidentified substance as he exits the store, causing surprise and alarm on the employee's behalf. It is assumed that Chris will find himself [[ban|banned]] from yet another place.

==Spray and Aftermath==
According to a troll<ref name=forum>https://archive.today/KbrlM</ref>, the substance sprayed on the hapless employee was indeed mace, or a derivative thereof. A followup call from a [[4chan]] troll<ref name=forum /> revealed that the employee will be pressing charges, in a development remarkably similar to the events of [[28 October 2011]]. If the claims by the troll are indeed true, it is likely that Chris will be facing potentially a financially destabilizing year in 2015.

==Transcript==

*'''Chris''': [[Chris and negotiation|Don't call anybody]]
*''Chris sashays out of the store. Unintelligible background noise from other customers''
*''Chris sprays a yellow-shirted employee''
*'''Employee''':Whoa. Hey!

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GameSpot Assault

2014-12-28T02:39:12Z

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GameSpot Assault

2014-12-28T02:32:15Z

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* 28 December - Chris is recorded as he disregards one of his many [[List_of_places_that_have_banned_Chris|bans]] in order to deface the Sonic Boom display at the [[Fashion Square]] [[Gamestop]], [[GameSpot Assault|assaulting]] an innocent employee with pepper spray as he leaves.
* 25 [[December 2014|December]] - [[Christmas]]. [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004#Part_2|A second video from Christmas 2004]] is leaked.
* 22 December - Chris awards his Facebook friends for helping him get through the year (supposedly) by giving them a picture of [[CRAYOLA FUCKIN' MODEL MAGIC]]ified Lego [[Wild Sonichu]] and [[Sonichu]] himself.
* 21 December - Chris announces 14 Branchland Court will not be ready to move back into by [[C-Mas]]. He posts links to give him presents, gift cards, or PayPal money--and '''even gives suggestions for joke presents.''' He also ''begs'' his Facebook friends to buy the car from [[Craigslist]].
* 20 December - Chris reposts a message from flash animator HotDiggedyDemon (despite, prior to favoriting it, him criticizing his parodies of ''Sonic'' and ''[[My Little Pony]]'') on Facebook--said message is some really good advice Chris could use himself.
* 18 December - Chris [[December_2014_Facebook_Posts#Meme_Run|posts a long opinion piece on why he hates trolls and the infamous Nintendo eShop game ''Meme Run'']]. Meanwhile, it was leaked on the CWCki Forums that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] had [[Catherine_E-mails#The_Gal_Pals_Weren.27t_the_First_Time_Bob_Hired_Friends_for_Chris|hired gal-pals for Chris]]. It was also leaked that [[Anna McLerran]] [[Anna_McLerran#Anti-troll_plea_to_Catie|was trying to dislodge Catherine and she would appeal for Catherine's humanity.]]
* 17 December - [[Apology Letters‎|Three apology letters]] that Chris wrote to [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]] in August are leaked. Also leaked is a never-before-seen [[ChrisAfterChristmas2004|Christmas video]] filmed in 2004.

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CWCki:NOTAFORUM

2014-09-01T02:16:27Z

Aschlafly: to update the language. Youtube was a while ago.

As Chris's presence periodically rise and diminish in knowledge, - it's time for a refresher course on our NOTAFORUM policy for article talk pages.

'''It is highly recommended you read this before creating an account.'''

==The NOT A FORUM policy for dummies==
* Talk pages are '''solely''' for discussing article structure, content layout, disputes in sources, quality of the content etc.
* Talk pages should avoid discussing the subject of the article, which includes any analysis of the article's subject and information contained within it.
* Talk pages should '''never''' be used to comment about Chris, his behaviors, predictions, theory, general [[CWCki:Sperging|sperging]].
* Talk pages should '''never''' be used as a platform for you to showcase your attempts to make contact with Chris.

Any direct violations of the above will almost always result in a ban of some sort, depending on how irrelevant your talk page contribution was, in order to get across how little your talk page anecdote was appreciated. Honestly, if it's not about article improvements, don't write about it on the talk page.

==Places suitable for Chris-related forum talk==
[[File:CWCki_Forums_as_Guest.png|thumb|The CWCki Forums]]
* [[CWCki Forums]] - Highly recommended place to discuss anything about Chris to your heart's content.
* [[Sonichu (IRC)|#sonichu]] - Meet some of the most clued-up people about Chris and put forward any questions you may have.
* [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] - Restricted access to avoid sperg immigrants from entering, but bother [[User:Canine|Canine]] or any current PVCC member to put forward a recommendation for you if you really want access.
* [[Krapple|/cow/]] - A general lolcow board, some half-decent speculation and discussion threads do appear.

==Current insta-ban criteria==
* You posted about how you contacted Chris in some form and are basically using the talk page as a place to brag about it.
* You continuously spur on a completely irrelevant line of conversation on a talk page, with complete disregard for the NOTAFORUM banner at the top of the talk page, and in turn - this policy.

==See also==
[[CWCki:Sperging]]

[[Category:CWCki policy]]

Rental House

2014-05-07T20:20:00Z

Aschlafly:

{{Incomplete}}

[[File:ChrisChanRentalHouseCoveredWindows.JPG|center|500px|thumb|The rental house itself.]]
After the infamous [[Destruction Of Chris's House|house fire incident]], [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Barbara Chandler|his mom]], [[Clover and Snoopy]] and the surviving [[Chandler Cats]] have moved to their temporary '''rental house'''. It is located at 38°11'30.9"N 78°23'12.0"W, in Barboursville, Virginia; a small unincorporated community on the outskirts of Charlottesville.

[[Category:Places]]

Talk:Facebook

2013-06-15T04:18:48Z

Aschlafly: /* The imgur thread */

==To Do==
*archive the messages on a separate page ([[Facebook messages]] works)
*maybe make a separate page to mirror Chris's Facebook account (to clarify, his Facebook page as it appeared before it was hacked - --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 2 June 2009 (CEST))
*include his notes (maybe a separate page for that too, actually)

As for this page, maybe just outline the extent Chris used Facebook, highlight some of the stuff with it, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:09, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

To put it bluntly; this page needs more words. Some of the messages are very funny when juxtaposed. He would rather go out with a jailbait 17 year old "party girl" (read:slut) than a empathetic single mom. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 23:44, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
* A general commentary for the current themes that pop up in Chris's [[Facebook messages]] and in his Facebook page and notes are more warranted than commentary for each and every individual e-mail.

I know that the Miyamoto Saga e-mails have a commentary of it but most of it is from Clyde (RIP) who provides a commentary on what he was saying as he lost the original sent e-mails from when he was Miyamoto.

But really, I think just a general commentary is needed and that Chris's messages are far more amusing and should speak for themselves. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 June 2009 (CEST)

Whatever you say, hoss. Mind was a little skewed due to rage.

What to do STILL - Go through his statuses. How lonesome is this fuck going to be? evenmore.zip [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:59, 19 September 2010 (PDT)

==Collapsible gallery==

Oh, and can we make the gallery collapsible? I know standard wiki formatting has the gallery at the bottom, but, like you said, they speak for themselves, so a general commentary would be more aesthetically pleasing below it. Gives the reader space to grasp the fucktardedness before adding our POV. Just a suggestion.--[[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:51, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

*A collapsible gallery would be great, but can you make one? God help us that none of us can't edit unless it's basic shit like making templates (read: copy and pasting stuff from Wikipedia templates, lol), editing pages, etc. Seriously, we could use collapsible galleries in a lot of pages but no one has gotten around to it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:50, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

* Oh, damn, I assumed you were a senior wikifag. I'll see what I can do, it can't be too difficult, right? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 03:17, 4 June 2009 (CEST)

* I am a wikifag. See [[Template:Collapsible]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 03:31, 5 June 2009 (CEST)

==Has Chris regained use of this profile, or is it still under troll control?==
I was under the impression he got it back, but it seems not long ago he posted a status that was pretty clearly a troll. I'm mostly an idiot so there's a good chance this was obvious somewhere long ago, but the article doesn't really address what happened to the profile after trolls hijacked it. Is that something that could be included? --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:28, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

== He's still using Facebook ==

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christian-Weston-Chandler/167832525915

Might wanna update that link.

*LOOKS LEGI- Oh wait. NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:53, 27 January 2011 (PST)
Gotta go with Freecell on this one...There is no way in hell this is Chris's facebook...though the going to the bar and bring his DS is something Chris has done before... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:46, 27 January 2011 (PST)

*What about [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000426003596 this one?] --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 18:43, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
# "This is my real facebook. I had to make a new one due to all these trolls HARASSING ME AND HACKING MY ACCOUNT"
# Uses an old picture everyone has
# "Proud too say I'm still a virgin :)" group
# Talking about Skyrim without a computer
Not Chris. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:17, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

*This just appeared on my "you might know this person" sidebar on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 [[User:frozenblwf|Frozenblwf]]

*That one seems pretty legit, Frozenblwf. A pic no one has seen before and the profile is private (so obviously not trying to grab everyone's attention). Good find! --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 16:48, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

*Also, note he is wearing ear rings in both ears. Which means they are recent due to him getting his ears pierced. My money is on this being legit. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:07, 6 July 2011 (PDT)CFA

*Looks like the page has been deleted. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 03:53, 7 July 2011 (PDT)

*One of the Bobs on facebook is friends with this account, but I'm pretty sure it's not him because the photo is too old. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1801600742 [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 03:15, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 will take you to Chris's facebook profile that uses his typical "chrischansonichu@aol.com" email address. This is a profile picture we've never seen (or at least I don't think we have)*NOTE: It says it was added THIS monday, the 23 of January 2012, so yes, he's still using facebook. It will need a screen cap added. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:42, 25 January 2012 (PST)
*There's also a note he's published about what he wants in a girl...it's pretty hilariously chris:
**Must Meet In-Person First and Upfront (NO Online/Phone/Mail Contact Acceptable beforehand. Must be Referred to me by my Real Friend(s) or Family).

-21 to 29-years old
-Cute, Pretty, Beautiful, or HOT
-Caring, Sweet, Honest
-Education: High School Graduate and/or Better
-NOT A Smoker
-Social Drinker or non-alcoholic
-Upfront
-No STDs
-Carefree/Light-Hearted
-Moderate to Very Intelligent/Smart (Not Ditzy)
-Takative/Outgoing/Not Shy/Good Self-Esteem
-Slim to Average body type (under 170 lbs)
-Between 4 feet, 10 inches and 5 feet, 10 inches
-Brunette or Blonde hair
-B-Cup size minimum
-Clean
-Casual
-Not Crazy or Abusive
-Make-Up Optional
-Well-Informed to Expert in sex
--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:46, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Doesn't look like Tineye or Google Reverse Image Search are turning up anything, either. Guess it is a new picture. I used to know how to pull someone's full profile picture, but I don't remember anymore. I'll see if I can find it. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 08:47, 25 January 2012 (PST)
::I was so intent on dicking around that I didn't realise that his full profile picture is readily available. Never mind. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 09:04, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Oh my atheist god, he just doesn't get it. While the picture is arguably an improvement over the old ones, this list is... just... just... it has the Chris-essence condensed and distilled in it. It creeps me out. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 09:05, 25 January 2012 (PST)

== Dead link ==

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

* http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian_Weston_Chandler/579729310
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-20 22:38:31, 404 Not Found
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-28 08:04:22, 404 Not Found

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

== Closed/Privatized ==

I can no longer find his account under chrischansonichu@aol.com; he has either closed it or listed it to private. He had a 'facebook friend' named Kim Wilson who is still listed though. Should it be mentioned in the article that as of Valentines day Chris no longer had a visible facebook page? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:26, 15 February 2012 (PST)

==Recent leaks==

As stated previously by the February 2012 page, some screencaps of Chris Facebook wall have been leaked, can we put it on the article or is it too early (a risk of Chris seeing them and leave the internet)--
ADDENDUM : The file name are Chfb1.png to Chfb4.png (uploaded by a user named Westbound)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 13:02, 17 February 2012 (PST)

I doubt anyone would mind you adding them as long as they don't make it on the update right away. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 08:53, 23 February 2012 (PST)

== Something Fishy ==

All of the recent posts on FB seem odd
The writing seems forced and the content seems to perfect.

Im wondering if this is the act of trolls. Especially the "going back to fashion square with my sign" posts. it just seems like the work of a troll or Chris trying to be a troll. In light of the severity of the court cases and the fact that christian was on a FB hiatus that was possibly due to his lawyers direction, i am in severe doubt as to the genuineness of the recent posts. I understand that came from the TRUE and HONEST CWC account but it just seems... fishy... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:26, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
*Canine has confirmed it. Cogs has confirmed it. Anna is friends with the account, and we all know that Anna and the inner circle don't agree with each other. There is no reason to doubt that this account belongs to Chris. Also, Chris's writing has always seemed forced and anything new about him is always unbelievable at first.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 11:34, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
** I don't think slimz was doubting that the account was Chris's, I think slimz was insinuating that these accounts are "100%" Chris. (Either by hack or by assistance) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:05, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
* Chris is probably trying to goad da trollz into a mall confrontation, complete with curse-ye-ha-me-has. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 11:44, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
**I'll admit I think it's all a bit odd but then who knows what is going through Chris's mind at this stage. He seems to be viewing himself as a master troll given the screencaps of the forums and what not. Who knows what he wants. --[[User:Gytrash|Gytrash]] 07:22, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

== "Hynamin"? ==

I believe Chris may be referring to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Hyneman MythBuster Jamie Hyneman] in his most recent note. I have done a quick search of tour information and could not yield anything recent in Virgina. If someone higher on the totem pole could check into this, I think it'd be worth their while. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 20:21, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

*That or he fails at spelling "hymen." [[User:BeefCurtains|BeefCurtains]] 20:47, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
** I bet this is it http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2012/04/042512-vbi-usasef.html an excerpt
"""The USA Science & Engineering Festival will also feature leading science celebrities like Bill Nye of "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage of the "MythBusters" will appear live during the finale expo. Also scheduled to appear are Jeff Lieberman from Discovery Channel’s series "Time Warp" and Apollo Robbins, who is known as the "gentleman thief," from National Geographic’s "Brain Games.""""
[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:03, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

Ah. Okay. Thanks for clarifying. [[User:BeefCurtains|BeefCurtains]] 22:26, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

== Backpage ==
Backpage is a site like Craigslist that still allows escort advertising. We could probably browse the backpage site for his area and find someone that was/looked half Cherokee (olive skin, dark hair etc) and call them to get the story (if its at all true) virginia.backpage.com i cant do it from work but maybe later today ill look into it [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:01, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
* Umm... I see where you're going with this, but I'm pretty sure that there's nary a hooker alive that would name-drop their johns to a stranger. [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 16:08, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Regarding the recent posts ==
Chris-chan seems mighty proud of the fact that he mislead us over a small piece of information, and he stated outright that there are more events that he may or may not be outright lying about. Does this mean we should take all his recent Facebook posts with a grain of salt? Including his claims that he got laid? [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 12:09, 3 May 2012 (PDT)
:That's exactly the reason I was arguing that it shouldn't be written in as fact on Da Update. I personally believe that he's telling the truth about it, but stating that anything is fact just because "Chris said so" would be a great way to ruin the integrity of our articles. After the last edit war over this, I'm not going to start another (since I'm busy with exams and don't have time for it), but if you change it, I won't stop you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 01:47, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
:*AGREED ! ! ! this could be an attempt by chris to change the facts about him online, to troll the trolls or to just create a fantasy world where he is no longer a virgin. It sounds legit but considdering there is a "friend" who "Brought them together" this could be a manipulation tactic by someone else. (a troll using chris to troll the trolls... thats priceless) [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:41, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

== Iphone ==

According to the "recent activity" on Chris's facebook...he now can access facebook through his Iphone...which means of course, he has an Iphone. Now does this information need to be posted anywhere in particular? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 00:08, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
:It could also mean he's using an iPod touch or iPad. That just means he's using the app --[[User:Cthuluology|Cthuluology]] 13:37, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
doubt it but i changed it to reflect that. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 17:32, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

== Cole's Response to Chris ==

I noticed that CWC's half brother Cole finally got fed up with his shit and decided to throw his two cents in. Here are the caps below.

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[[User:CHN|CHN]] 16:17, 23 June 2012 (PDT)

*Looks like a fake Facebook account to me. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 16:27, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:* I looked on his wall and I saw one of his past posts that reads this.

:"I'm tired of getting harassed by people who want to know about my brother. Let me make this perfectly clear to you people: This Facebook is for friends and family only. No business, no film reviews, this is purely personal, so please respect my personal space and my brother's personal space.

:I don't even know how or why I was found, and if the harassment persists, I'm involving the police.

:Thank you."

:It might be him since if that was a fake account it would most likely be used to "troll" Chris and not ask people to leave him alone. I understand why Cole is asking for personal space to be left alone by trolls wanting to know more about Chris because he doesn't want to be known for having a brother who acts like a total retard. I also feel sorry for him who might have seen the "cakefarts" video too. Cole is about what in his 50s and he's already doing something in his life by doing film reviews and of course he has his own family and he seems to rather want to spend more time in his job and family than talking to trolls about Chris. So in my opinion that account is Cole since imposters after Chris want to decimate more information about Chris for the world to share. Cole himself doesn't want to be bothered by Internet strangers about his brother and seeing that he has a career and family I can see why. [[User:CHN|CHN]] 16:48, 23 June 2012 (PDT)

::Seems fake to me. "Cole" tells us that this facebook is for friends and family only... When he only has one friend in his account. Furthermore, if he was really not interested in being harassed by Christards he would have simply made his entire facebook private rather than have his posts visible to all. You could argue that Cole only says that he doesn't want to associated with Chris when in actuality he's trying to use him for attention, but I don't think this fits the pattern of behavior Cole has displayed in the past. From what I know he's trying to avoid being known as Chris's brother rather than using his sibling's infamy.

::If you ask me the main motivation of "Cole" is to fool Chris rather than anyone else. This troll hopes that by posing as Chris's half brother he might get a response from him. I predict he'll fail although Chris's gullibility never fails to surprise me. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 12:30, 24 June 2012 (PDT)

::Real or fake, he threatened to drag the cops into this if we kept bugging him, so let's assume real and spare ourselves the trouble. This one's a dead end anyway. [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 23:16, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

::It's fake. His real account is just Cole Smithey. It's the one with the profile picture of him playing the guitar. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 01:13, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== 20120623 Facebook Post ==
Does anyone have the text from the June 23rd post, or the means to access it? It's mentioned in the news, a portion of it was quoted on the main page, but it never got posted on this page. [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 23:16, 25 June 2012 (PDT#
:[[:image:Train wreck.JPG|Here you go]], and here's a screencap of [[:image:Chris whines about ponies.JPG|Chris whining about some MLP shit]]. I'm not quite sure where we should put these two... I don't think these are notes since they aren't listed on Chris's facebook profile as such but what are they? Statuses? I don't really know how to properly label all this facebook stuff because I don't have an account #I had to borrow a friend's account in order to take those screencaps#... - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 05:46, 26 June 2012 #PDT)
:What about [[:image:June_26_Facebook_Message.png|this one]] from June 26? Yes, a bunch of my freiends' avatars were included in the screencap, and no, they didn't go away even when I edited it, so don't bring it up. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 01:35, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== iPhone ==

Hey I thought id bring this up again because there was a screen shot with a strange carrier (http://www.ntelos.com/)and i wanted to know, are they a official carrier? is this relevant to any page here? and if you have to have a jailbrake/unlock could this lead to further info gathering? [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 22:31, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
* I looked up NTelos' Wikipedia page and yes, they are an official carrier, though a minor one as it functions primarily in the Virginias and yes, they officially carry the iPhone, doing so at a ''reduced price''. Which means Chris' cheapness shines through again!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 22:42, 1 August 2012 (PDT)

== Facebook leak ==

Looks like there's a new Facebook leak someone got [http://789chan.org/bt/res/174.html here].

There's a lot there so get to it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:15, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

==Chris is updating his Facebook==

Why isn't the FB page being updated? Chris is whining about the trolls again on his Facebook page and nobody is recording it. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 14:15, 22 February 2013 (PST)

* Why don't you do it? Love, [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:24, 3 March 2013 (PST)

== Recent topics ==

His recent response to Tara Strong's Twilightlicious. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:57, 1 March 2013 (PST)

<blockquote>
Christian Weston Chandler 
February 25 via mobile 
near Charlottesville, VA 
 
I fully understand the video, "Twilightlicious", is nearly a year old now, but in due reference to my recent post about "Smiley", I feel compelled to comment on Tara Strong's (voice actress of Twilight Sparkle) contribution towards the very objectionable contribution towards promoting Internet Troll(ing)s/Cyber-Bullies. And I wish my full post be forwarded to Miss Strong's full attention posthaste. 
 
While I do respect her voice acting in MLP:FIM, and she does a good job at portraying Twilight, I feel distraught in hearing her voice not only in promoting Trolling, but linking Twilight with the act. Even as to dare mark the now alicorn a Mascot for Trolling. As a lot of people are aware of me, I have been a grave victim of Trolling for over five long years. I have been emotionally and mentally scarred by the Trolls' deceptions, lies, blackmail, slander of my once good name, and so forth. Now I am like a black sheep of the world for the wrongest of reasons and people are afraid, and misunderstand worse, of me and of who I am and was. 
 
So, I address you, Miss Tara Strong. Did you have any knowledge or acknowledgement of what Trolling was and is, and how these horrible people have and continue to mentally and emotionally damage innocent people with their twisted, sick, demented an evil ways alongside Anonymous and 4Chan behind the veils of the Internet? How do you stand in the name of protecting innocent people from being emotionally and mentally damaged from such bullying? And what were you thinking at the time when you recorded your voice for "blackgryphon's" meme, which obviously depicted and promoted Trolling? 
 
If you had absolutely no regard to the consequences of the people, including myself, who were, are and have been the tragic victims of the bullying Trolls, then I see a lot of disappointed Twilight Sparkle fans and Bronies ready to boo at you. 
 
Please, prove my theory wrong, and make a statement directly from your person, and in the good name of Twilight Sparkle, Bubbles and all of the characters you've given your voice to. 
 
Sincerely, 
Christian W.Chandler 
Ruckersville, VA, USA. 
</blockquote>

== Updated Photo, March 2013 ==

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Chris's profile picture as of 11th March 2013. -- [[User:Foetalwankstain|Foetalwankstain]] 11:02, 14 March 2013 (PDT)

== The imgur thread ==

All I can say is: holy shit. This deserves its own page.

Whoever made that eHarmony account is a hero. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 21:05, 27 May 2013 (PDT)
:[[2013 Imgur Leak]] - You're welcome. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:17, 14 June 2013 (PDT)

Talk:Facebook

2013-06-15T04:17:54Z

Aschlafly: /* The imgur thread */

==To Do==
*archive the messages on a separate page ([[Facebook messages]] works)
*maybe make a separate page to mirror Chris's Facebook account (to clarify, his Facebook page as it appeared before it was hacked - --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 2 June 2009 (CEST))
*include his notes (maybe a separate page for that too, actually)

As for this page, maybe just outline the extent Chris used Facebook, highlight some of the stuff with it, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:09, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

To put it bluntly; this page needs more words. Some of the messages are very funny when juxtaposed. He would rather go out with a jailbait 17 year old "party girl" (read:slut) than a empathetic single mom. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 23:44, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
* A general commentary for the current themes that pop up in Chris's [[Facebook messages]] and in his Facebook page and notes are more warranted than commentary for each and every individual e-mail.

I know that the Miyamoto Saga e-mails have a commentary of it but most of it is from Clyde (RIP) who provides a commentary on what he was saying as he lost the original sent e-mails from when he was Miyamoto.

But really, I think just a general commentary is needed and that Chris's messages are far more amusing and should speak for themselves. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 June 2009 (CEST)

Whatever you say, hoss. Mind was a little skewed due to rage.

What to do STILL - Go through his statuses. How lonesome is this fuck going to be? evenmore.zip [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:59, 19 September 2010 (PDT)

==Collapsible gallery==

Oh, and can we make the gallery collapsible? I know standard wiki formatting has the gallery at the bottom, but, like you said, they speak for themselves, so a general commentary would be more aesthetically pleasing below it. Gives the reader space to grasp the fucktardedness before adding our POV. Just a suggestion.--[[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:51, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

*A collapsible gallery would be great, but can you make one? God help us that none of us can't edit unless it's basic shit like making templates (read: copy and pasting stuff from Wikipedia templates, lol), editing pages, etc. Seriously, we could use collapsible galleries in a lot of pages but no one has gotten around to it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:50, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

* Oh, damn, I assumed you were a senior wikifag. I'll see what I can do, it can't be too difficult, right? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 03:17, 4 June 2009 (CEST)

* I am a wikifag. See [[Template:Collapsible]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 03:31, 5 June 2009 (CEST)

==Has Chris regained use of this profile, or is it still under troll control?==
I was under the impression he got it back, but it seems not long ago he posted a status that was pretty clearly a troll. I'm mostly an idiot so there's a good chance this was obvious somewhere long ago, but the article doesn't really address what happened to the profile after trolls hijacked it. Is that something that could be included? --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:28, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

== He's still using Facebook ==

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christian-Weston-Chandler/167832525915

Might wanna update that link.

*LOOKS LEGI- Oh wait. NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:53, 27 January 2011 (PST)
Gotta go with Freecell on this one...There is no way in hell this is Chris's facebook...though the going to the bar and bring his DS is something Chris has done before... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:46, 27 January 2011 (PST)

*What about [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000426003596 this one?] --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 18:43, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
# "This is my real facebook. I had to make a new one due to all these trolls HARASSING ME AND HACKING MY ACCOUNT"
# Uses an old picture everyone has
# "Proud too say I'm still a virgin :)" group
# Talking about Skyrim without a computer
Not Chris. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:17, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

*This just appeared on my "you might know this person" sidebar on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 [[User:frozenblwf|Frozenblwf]]

*That one seems pretty legit, Frozenblwf. A pic no one has seen before and the profile is private (so obviously not trying to grab everyone's attention). Good find! --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 16:48, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

*Also, note he is wearing ear rings in both ears. Which means they are recent due to him getting his ears pierced. My money is on this being legit. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:07, 6 July 2011 (PDT)CFA

*Looks like the page has been deleted. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 03:53, 7 July 2011 (PDT)

*One of the Bobs on facebook is friends with this account, but I'm pretty sure it's not him because the photo is too old. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1801600742 [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 03:15, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 will take you to Chris's facebook profile that uses his typical "chrischansonichu@aol.com" email address. This is a profile picture we've never seen (or at least I don't think we have)*NOTE: It says it was added THIS monday, the 23 of January 2012, so yes, he's still using facebook. It will need a screen cap added. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:42, 25 January 2012 (PST)
*There's also a note he's published about what he wants in a girl...it's pretty hilariously chris:
**Must Meet In-Person First and Upfront (NO Online/Phone/Mail Contact Acceptable beforehand. Must be Referred to me by my Real Friend(s) or Family).

-21 to 29-years old
-Cute, Pretty, Beautiful, or HOT
-Caring, Sweet, Honest
-Education: High School Graduate and/or Better
-NOT A Smoker
-Social Drinker or non-alcoholic
-Upfront
-No STDs
-Carefree/Light-Hearted
-Moderate to Very Intelligent/Smart (Not Ditzy)
-Takative/Outgoing/Not Shy/Good Self-Esteem
-Slim to Average body type (under 170 lbs)
-Between 4 feet, 10 inches and 5 feet, 10 inches
-Brunette or Blonde hair
-B-Cup size minimum
-Clean
-Casual
-Not Crazy or Abusive
-Make-Up Optional
-Well-Informed to Expert in sex
--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:46, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Doesn't look like Tineye or Google Reverse Image Search are turning up anything, either. Guess it is a new picture. I used to know how to pull someone's full profile picture, but I don't remember anymore. I'll see if I can find it. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 08:47, 25 January 2012 (PST)
::I was so intent on dicking around that I didn't realise that his full profile picture is readily available. Never mind. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 09:04, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Oh my atheist god, he just doesn't get it. While the picture is arguably an improvement over the old ones, this list is... just... just... it has the Chris-essence condensed and distilled in it. It creeps me out. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 09:05, 25 January 2012 (PST)

== Dead link ==

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

* http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian_Weston_Chandler/579729310
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-20 22:38:31, 404 Not Found
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-28 08:04:22, 404 Not Found

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

== Closed/Privatized ==

I can no longer find his account under chrischansonichu@aol.com; he has either closed it or listed it to private. He had a 'facebook friend' named Kim Wilson who is still listed though. Should it be mentioned in the article that as of Valentines day Chris no longer had a visible facebook page? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:26, 15 February 2012 (PST)

==Recent leaks==

As stated previously by the February 2012 page, some screencaps of Chris Facebook wall have been leaked, can we put it on the article or is it too early (a risk of Chris seeing them and leave the internet)--
ADDENDUM : The file name are Chfb1.png to Chfb4.png (uploaded by a user named Westbound)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 13:02, 17 February 2012 (PST)

I doubt anyone would mind you adding them as long as they don't make it on the update right away. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 08:53, 23 February 2012 (PST)

== Something Fishy ==

All of the recent posts on FB seem odd
The writing seems forced and the content seems to perfect.

Im wondering if this is the act of trolls. Especially the "going back to fashion square with my sign" posts. it just seems like the work of a troll or Chris trying to be a troll. In light of the severity of the court cases and the fact that christian was on a FB hiatus that was possibly due to his lawyers direction, i am in severe doubt as to the genuineness of the recent posts. I understand that came from the TRUE and HONEST CWC account but it just seems... fishy... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:26, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
*Canine has confirmed it. Cogs has confirmed it. Anna is friends with the account, and we all know that Anna and the inner circle don't agree with each other. There is no reason to doubt that this account belongs to Chris. Also, Chris's writing has always seemed forced and anything new about him is always unbelievable at first.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 11:34, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
** I don't think slimz was doubting that the account was Chris's, I think slimz was insinuating that these accounts are "100%" Chris. (Either by hack or by assistance) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:05, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
* Chris is probably trying to goad da trollz into a mall confrontation, complete with curse-ye-ha-me-has. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 11:44, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
**I'll admit I think it's all a bit odd but then who knows what is going through Chris's mind at this stage. He seems to be viewing himself as a master troll given the screencaps of the forums and what not. Who knows what he wants. --[[User:Gytrash|Gytrash]] 07:22, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

== "Hynamin"? ==

I believe Chris may be referring to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Hyneman MythBuster Jamie Hyneman] in his most recent note. I have done a quick search of tour information and could not yield anything recent in Virgina. If someone higher on the totem pole could check into this, I think it'd be worth their while. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 20:21, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

*That or he fails at spelling "hymen." [[User:BeefCurtains|BeefCurtains]] 20:47, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
** I bet this is it http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2012/04/042512-vbi-usasef.html an excerpt
"""The USA Science & Engineering Festival will also feature leading science celebrities like Bill Nye of "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage of the "MythBusters" will appear live during the finale expo. Also scheduled to appear are Jeff Lieberman from Discovery Channel’s series "Time Warp" and Apollo Robbins, who is known as the "gentleman thief," from National Geographic’s "Brain Games.""""
[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:03, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

Ah. Okay. Thanks for clarifying. [[User:BeefCurtains|BeefCurtains]] 22:26, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

== Backpage ==
Backpage is a site like Craigslist that still allows escort advertising. We could probably browse the backpage site for his area and find someone that was/looked half Cherokee (olive skin, dark hair etc) and call them to get the story (if its at all true) virginia.backpage.com i cant do it from work but maybe later today ill look into it [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:01, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
* Umm... I see where you're going with this, but I'm pretty sure that there's nary a hooker alive that would name-drop their johns to a stranger. [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 16:08, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Regarding the recent posts ==
Chris-chan seems mighty proud of the fact that he mislead us over a small piece of information, and he stated outright that there are more events that he may or may not be outright lying about. Does this mean we should take all his recent Facebook posts with a grain of salt? Including his claims that he got laid? [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 12:09, 3 May 2012 (PDT)
:That's exactly the reason I was arguing that it shouldn't be written in as fact on Da Update. I personally believe that he's telling the truth about it, but stating that anything is fact just because "Chris said so" would be a great way to ruin the integrity of our articles. After the last edit war over this, I'm not going to start another (since I'm busy with exams and don't have time for it), but if you change it, I won't stop you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 01:47, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
:*AGREED ! ! ! this could be an attempt by chris to change the facts about him online, to troll the trolls or to just create a fantasy world where he is no longer a virgin. It sounds legit but considdering there is a "friend" who "Brought them together" this could be a manipulation tactic by someone else. (a troll using chris to troll the trolls... thats priceless) [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:41, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

== Iphone ==

According to the "recent activity" on Chris's facebook...he now can access facebook through his Iphone...which means of course, he has an Iphone. Now does this information need to be posted anywhere in particular? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 00:08, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
:It could also mean he's using an iPod touch or iPad. That just means he's using the app --[[User:Cthuluology|Cthuluology]] 13:37, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
doubt it but i changed it to reflect that. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 17:32, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

== Cole's Response to Chris ==

I noticed that CWC's half brother Cole finally got fed up with his shit and decided to throw his two cents in. Here are the caps below.

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[[User:CHN|CHN]] 16:17, 23 June 2012 (PDT)

*Looks like a fake Facebook account to me. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 16:27, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:* I looked on his wall and I saw one of his past posts that reads this.

:"I'm tired of getting harassed by people who want to know about my brother. Let me make this perfectly clear to you people: This Facebook is for friends and family only. No business, no film reviews, this is purely personal, so please respect my personal space and my brother's personal space.

:I don't even know how or why I was found, and if the harassment persists, I'm involving the police.

:Thank you."

:It might be him since if that was a fake account it would most likely be used to "troll" Chris and not ask people to leave him alone. I understand why Cole is asking for personal space to be left alone by trolls wanting to know more about Chris because he doesn't want to be known for having a brother who acts like a total retard. I also feel sorry for him who might have seen the "cakefarts" video too. Cole is about what in his 50s and he's already doing something in his life by doing film reviews and of course he has his own family and he seems to rather want to spend more time in his job and family than talking to trolls about Chris. So in my opinion that account is Cole since imposters after Chris want to decimate more information about Chris for the world to share. Cole himself doesn't want to be bothered by Internet strangers about his brother and seeing that he has a career and family I can see why. [[User:CHN|CHN]] 16:48, 23 June 2012 (PDT)

::Seems fake to me. "Cole" tells us that this facebook is for friends and family only... When he only has one friend in his account. Furthermore, if he was really not interested in being harassed by Christards he would have simply made his entire facebook private rather than have his posts visible to all. You could argue that Cole only says that he doesn't want to associated with Chris when in actuality he's trying to use him for attention, but I don't think this fits the pattern of behavior Cole has displayed in the past. From what I know he's trying to avoid being known as Chris's brother rather than using his sibling's infamy.

::If you ask me the main motivation of "Cole" is to fool Chris rather than anyone else. This troll hopes that by posing as Chris's half brother he might get a response from him. I predict he'll fail although Chris's gullibility never fails to surprise me. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 12:30, 24 June 2012 (PDT)

::Real or fake, he threatened to drag the cops into this if we kept bugging him, so let's assume real and spare ourselves the trouble. This one's a dead end anyway. [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 23:16, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

::It's fake. His real account is just Cole Smithey. It's the one with the profile picture of him playing the guitar. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 01:13, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== 20120623 Facebook Post ==
Does anyone have the text from the June 23rd post, or the means to access it? It's mentioned in the news, a portion of it was quoted on the main page, but it never got posted on this page. [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 23:16, 25 June 2012 (PDT#
:[[:image:Train wreck.JPG|Here you go]], and here's a screencap of [[:image:Chris whines about ponies.JPG|Chris whining about some MLP shit]]. I'm not quite sure where we should put these two... I don't think these are notes since they aren't listed on Chris's facebook profile as such but what are they? Statuses? I don't really know how to properly label all this facebook stuff because I don't have an account #I had to borrow a friend's account in order to take those screencaps#... - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 05:46, 26 June 2012 #PDT)
:What about [[:image:June_26_Facebook_Message.png|this one]] from June 26? Yes, a bunch of my freiends' avatars were included in the screencap, and no, they didn't go away even when I edited it, so don't bring it up. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 01:35, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== iPhone ==

Hey I thought id bring this up again because there was a screen shot with a strange carrier (http://www.ntelos.com/)and i wanted to know, are they a official carrier? is this relevant to any page here? and if you have to have a jailbrake/unlock could this lead to further info gathering? [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 22:31, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
* I looked up NTelos' Wikipedia page and yes, they are an official carrier, though a minor one as it functions primarily in the Virginias and yes, they officially carry the iPhone, doing so at a ''reduced price''. Which means Chris' cheapness shines through again!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 22:42, 1 August 2012 (PDT)

== Facebook leak ==

Looks like there's a new Facebook leak someone got [http://789chan.org/bt/res/174.html here].

There's a lot there so get to it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:15, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

==Chris is updating his Facebook==

Why isn't the FB page being updated? Chris is whining about the trolls again on his Facebook page and nobody is recording it. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 14:15, 22 February 2013 (PST)

* Why don't you do it? Love, [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:24, 3 March 2013 (PST)

== Recent topics ==

His recent response to Tara Strong's Twilightlicious. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:57, 1 March 2013 (PST)

<blockquote>
Christian Weston Chandler 
February 25 via mobile 
near Charlottesville, VA 
 
I fully understand the video, "Twilightlicious", is nearly a year old now, but in due reference to my recent post about "Smiley", I feel compelled to comment on Tara Strong's (voice actress of Twilight Sparkle) contribution towards the very objectionable contribution towards promoting Internet Troll(ing)s/Cyber-Bullies. And I wish my full post be forwarded to Miss Strong's full attention posthaste. 
 
While I do respect her voice acting in MLP:FIM, and she does a good job at portraying Twilight, I feel distraught in hearing her voice not only in promoting Trolling, but linking Twilight with the act. Even as to dare mark the now alicorn a Mascot for Trolling. As a lot of people are aware of me, I have been a grave victim of Trolling for over five long years. I have been emotionally and mentally scarred by the Trolls' deceptions, lies, blackmail, slander of my once good name, and so forth. Now I am like a black sheep of the world for the wrongest of reasons and people are afraid, and misunderstand worse, of me and of who I am and was. 
 
So, I address you, Miss Tara Strong. Did you have any knowledge or acknowledgement of what Trolling was and is, and how these horrible people have and continue to mentally and emotionally damage innocent people with their twisted, sick, demented an evil ways alongside Anonymous and 4Chan behind the veils of the Internet? How do you stand in the name of protecting innocent people from being emotionally and mentally damaged from such bullying? And what were you thinking at the time when you recorded your voice for "blackgryphon's" meme, which obviously depicted and promoted Trolling? 
 
If you had absolutely no regard to the consequences of the people, including myself, who were, are and have been the tragic victims of the bullying Trolls, then I see a lot of disappointed Twilight Sparkle fans and Bronies ready to boo at you. 
 
Please, prove my theory wrong, and make a statement directly from your person, and in the good name of Twilight Sparkle, Bubbles and all of the characters you've given your voice to. 
 
Sincerely, 
Christian W.Chandler 
Ruckersville, VA, USA. 
</blockquote>

== Updated Photo, March 2013 ==

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Chris's profile picture as of 11th March 2013. -- [[User:Foetalwankstain|Foetalwankstain]] 11:02, 14 March 2013 (PDT)

== The imgur thread ==

All I can say is: holy shit. This deserves its own page.

Whoever made that eHarmony account is a hero. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 21:05, 27 May 2013 (PDT)
:[[2013 Imgur leak]] - You're welcome. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:17, 14 June 2013 (PDT)

2013 Facebook leak

2013-06-15T04:16:54Z

Aschlafly:

On the 26th of May, 2013, Chris inadvertently revealed the existence of an enormous leak of previously unheard of [[Facebook]] statuses. The leak was notable, as it revealed what had occurred during the the months of silence from him. Ironically, the only reason this leak was made public, was because Chris had thrown a temper-tantrum regarding it's existence, in a classic example of the Streisand effect.

==Content==
The posts were primarily composed of mundane updates from services such as Twitter, and Facebook applications. What stood out were the posts detailing his continued frustration with finding a [[Girlfriend]] (including a number of posts detailing a hypothesized [[Attraction Sign]]), and posts regarding his lack of freedom, without [[Robert Chandler]].

===Choice Updates===
{{quote|I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully no longer want to ever, forever, approach the Game and Hobby PLace.

It Truly Is the Breeding and Meeting PLace for Trolls and Cyber-Bullies. Long before October 2007, there were very few people who would have anything on me, personally worldwide, because those people only existed Locally to me and with Constant in person communication with me. Those people only existed at the PLace. And the very first person who turned Troll against me, is none other than [[Megan Schroeder]]. She ''conscripted Snyder, Mimms and everyone else against me.''

And when my family and I started getting close with identifying them as our perpetrators and The Prime Trolls, Snyder was looking for a reason to ban me, and so he did.

Megan Schroeder is the Prime Queen of the Trolls; the PLace IS truly a Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Place, and I never, forever, want anything to do with it. The PLace should definately be destroyed and shut down for good.

And I want to exact my fullest [[chris and anger|revenge]] and [[chris and religion|divine retribution]] with Megan Schroeder. ''SHE should be the jailed and beaten up, that vile, wicked, traitorous bitch|-Chris, nearly 5 years since the ban, and the end of all contact with Megan}}

{{quote|I know this may sound like a stupid idea, but I am thinking about getting one of those things to put in the ground to put real estate ads in, and putting advertisements about myself you know for a girlfriend. Obviously I am not going to do what. But that shows you how lonely and desperate I am. This [[Attraction sign|thing]] would be placed literally in front of my house.|Chris, musing about the Attraction Sign's revival}}

2013 Facebook leak

2013-06-15T04:16:23Z

Aschlafly: Created page with "On the 26th of May, 2013, Chris inadvertently revealed the existence of an enormous leak of previously unheard of Facebook statuses. The leak was notable, as it revealed w..."

On the 26th of May, 2013, Chris inadvertently revealed the existence of an enormous leak of previously unheard of [[Facebook]] statuses. The leak was notable, as it revealed what had occurred during the the months of silence from him. Ironically, the only reason this leak was made public, was because Chris had thrown a temper-tantrum regarding it's existence, in a classic example of the Streisand effect.

==Content==
The posts were primarily composed of mundane updates from services such as Twitter, and Facebook applications. What stood out were the posts detailing his continued frustration with finding a [[Girlfriend]] (including a number of posts detailing a hypothesized [[Attraction Sign]]), and posts regarding his lack of freedom, without [[Robert Chandler]].

===Choice Updates===
Note: ''Italics'' are added by users here.
{{quote|I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully no longer want to ever, forever, approach the Game and Hobby PLace.

It Truly Is the Breeding and Meeting PLace for Trolls and Cyber-Bullies. Long before October 2007, there were very few people who would have anything on me, personally worldwide, because those people only existed Locally to me and with Constant in person communication with me. Those people only existed at the PLace. And the very first person who turned Troll against me, is none other than [[Megan Schroeder]]. She ''conscripted Snyder, Mimms and everyone else against me.''

And when my family and I started getting close with identifying them as our perpetrators and The Prime Trolls, Snyder was looking for a reason to ban me, and so he did.

Megan Schroeder is the Prime Queen of the Trolls; the PLace IS truly a Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Place, and I never, forever, want anything to do with it. The PLace should definately be destroyed and shut down for good.

And I want to exact my fullest [[chris and anger|revenge]] and [[chris and religion|divine retribution]] with Megan Schroeder. ''SHE should be the jailed and beaten up, that vile, wicked, traitorous bitch|-Chris, nearly 5 years since the ban, and the end of all contact with Megan}}

{{quote|I know this may sound like a stupid idea, but I am thinking about getting one of those things to put in the ground to put real estate ads in, and putting advertisements about myself you know for a girlfriend. Obviously I am not going to do what. But that shows you how lonely and desperate I am. This [[Attraction sign|thing]] would be placed literally in front of my house.|Chris, musing about the Attraction Sign's revival}}

Facebook

2013-06-15T03:54:48Z

Aschlafly: /* Imgur */

{{Articleofthenow}}

[[Image:Facebook.jpg|center|300px]]
[[Image:cwc666.PNG|thumb|His friends list has hit the number of [[Clyde Cash|the Beast]].]]
'''Facebook''' is [[Chris]]'s other means of communication aside from [[MySpace]] on his [[Love Quest]]. While often looked over, his correspondence with these [[Trolls|e-women]] reveals that even on the Internet, he manages to convey that he is a fat [[autism|autistic]].

On 31 May 2009, Chris's Facebook was hacked, revealing notes and messages to [[boyfriend-free girls]] in the area in hopes of them becoming his [[sweetheart]]. He failed horribly of course, and [[the Miscreants]] showed us how hard.

Events in 2010 turned Chris firmly against the website. He blamed it in part for his breakup with [[the Wallflower]], and in November had some harsh words and gestures for it while announcing his [[100 2357.MOV|departure from the Internet]].

Sometime in mid 2011, his Facebook account was removed from the site. On 5 [[July 2011]], a new Facebook was discovered with a new picture of Chris. Two days later, his profile was deactivated.

On 2 [[January 2012]], Chris re-opened his Facebook account and uses it as his personal [[Attraction Sign|attraction sign]]. Since then, he has left occasional open notes for trolls and talked to his gal-pals, most frequently [[Anna]]. He also has an album dedicated to screenshots of the [[CWCki Forums]], proving that, although he has generally not associated with the trolls much throughout [[2012]], he still feels the need to [[Chris and his Ego|obsessively check what other people are saying about him on a regular basis]].

==Notes From The Man Himself==

{{Incomplete}}

===I am a good man===
{{quotebox|1=
Sunday, January 20, 2008 at 5:57pm

There are some cyber bullies who have taken my words and feelings out of context, and twisted them into meaningless mockery.

Please do not believe those terrible rumors; [[Twin Falling Towers|I am a good man]] who needs a female sweetheart to soothe my pains from loneliness, stress of social influences, and heart-aches.

Please help me, so I can help you one day.
}}

===The Common Question, "Do I know you?"===

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Sunday, January 20, 2008 at 9:49pm

When a person asks you, "Do I know you?", it brings up a greater answer. "I'm not a mind-reader, so I can't tell you how well you know me."
The question is dumb in itself; no one is able to answer it. Because no one can read their mind and answer it with full confidence.
}}

===Man I am SOOO SHY. "How Shy are you?" I am SOOO SHY, that...===

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Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 4:48pm

Today, Jan. 24, 2008, I was at the Alderman Library. I was playing Sudoku on my PSP, and I was listening in on this conversation between a couple of cute ladies just to my right. I've enjoyed just listening to them talk about their things; I will not devulge any details, because I am the man who will keep a secret (Plus, I don't know ALL the details). Anyway, after one of the two left, the gal that stayed sittin' next to me, talked on her cell in what sounded like Dutch or German. IT WAS THE PERFECT OPENING for a conversation towards making a new gal-pal. I had it in my head, "Pardon me, I couldn't help but overhear your chat on your phone, but was that Dutch or German you were speaking?" I HAD THE NERVE SET UP, I was raring to say it, but when I started to say it, the tension and my shyness and my autism choked me, literally; I couldn't even open my mouth to say anything. And she left. I am kicking myself now.

Anyway, THAT IS HOW SHY I AM; I am so shy, that I JUST FREEZE OR CHOKE upon starting to talk to a new girl I don't know yet.
}}

===What I am looking for in a woman===

(note: this note was posted on the same day [[Bob]] died)

{{quotebox|1=
Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 1:23am

<nowiki>**</nowiki>Must Meet In-Person First and Upfront (NO Online/Phone/Mail Contact Acceptable beforehand. Must be Referred to me by my Real Friend(s) or Family).

-21 to 29-years old 
-Cute, Pretty, Beautiful, or HOT 
-Education: High School Graduate and/or Better 
-NOT A Smoker 
-Carefree/Light-Hearted 
-Moderate to Very Intelligent/Smart (Not Ditzy) 
-Talkative/Outgoing/Not Shy/Good Self-Esteem 
-Slim to Average body type (under 170 lbs) 
-Between 4 feet, 10 inches and 5 feet 10 inches 
-Brunette or Blonde hair 
-B-Cup size minimum 
-Clean 
-Casual 
-Not Crazy or Abusive 
-Make-Up Optional 
-Well-Informed to Expert in sex
}}

===Unsolicited Friend Requests===

{{quotebox|1=
Sunday, February 5, 2012 at 10:27pm

'''Unsolicited Friend Requests WILL BE DENIED AND DELETED,''' ESPECIALLY from ALL People I have '''NOT met IN PERSON, FACE-TO-FACE, Beforehand.'''
}}

===Shooting Myself in the Foot===

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Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 1:34pm

I have often "shot myself in the foot" with great mistakes, including and especially, all of the mistakes I've made from letting myself be Blackmailed, Tricked, Deceived, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, by immature individuals who hide behind the veil of the internet to create hate-filled slanders of my once good name; those people are nothing more than privacy-invading, [[My Little Pony|gum-gabbing, gossip columnists, working for a gravely corrupted, should-be-fired-for-good "editor in chief".]]
}}

===An Open Note===
{{quotebox|1=
Sunday, [[April 2012|April 1, 2012]] at 11:12pm

I want to make something very clear to everyone on [[the internet]]. The hatred against me for the sake of hatred is unjustifiable, and totally uncalled for. [[White Knights|You People Do Not Really give a damn about what happens to me]]. The ONLY person in this world who knows me most and Truly cares about me is [[Barbara Chandler|my mother]]. The Real Friends I have made throughout my lifetime In Person, FREE From the internet, have had the opportunity to know me for who I Truly Am, a [[Death_threats|Caring]], [[Chris_and_remorse|Compassionate]], all-around [[Twin_Falling_Towers|Good Person]]. Those people like me at the very least, NOT counting all of the deceitful people I have had the displeasure of knowing who [[Megan Schroeder|turned Coldest]] [[The Wallflower|Shoulder Against me]] and STARTED all of the Online Hatred. And the rest of you who have Not Met Me AT ALL and INSIST of friending me online; DO I KNOW YOU PEOPLE? NO, I do Not, and I do not think I will EVER want to meet the Vast Majority of you, because you all ONLY want to add further to the [[CWCki|Gabby Gossip Column full of hatred and uncaring content.]]

The ONLY person I have in the world who Cares about me the most is my mother, [[Barbara]], and outside of [[14 Branchland Court|this house]], I do not really have that many people to ANY person who Cares about me at all, even my relatives. NOBODY cares what happens to me and my mother. To the Majority of you, I pray the soul of [[Bob Chandler|my father]] gives you all nightmares, and may [[God]] have mercy on your souls.

You Do Not Really Care About Me, Christian Weston Chandler.
}}

===An Open Note (4/13/2012)===

(note: while it was once a public note, it has either been removed or set to private)

{{quotebox|1=
Friday, [[April 2012|April 13, 2012]] at 10:08pm

It is true, I, Christian Weston Chandler, have had sexual intercourse with a lovely woman Wednesday, April 4, 2012. There is nothing inconceivable about it from the lovely lady and I having the pleasant conversation, exchanging phone numbers, and the very pleasant experience between her and I behind the closed doors at her place. Penile/Vaginal intercourse, Cuddling and Blowing have all taken place.

[[Ego|I do not require any congratulations]] or communications towards any discussions of the details, because I will never tell the full story anywhere online, and certainly anyone I do not, and have not, known personally and In Person.

And to all who continue to pick on and torture me, this is one thing that will ONLY be in your own [[Lie|self-fabricated theories and fables]]; you will never get the full story. And your reign of terror will only result in mockery towards your own Troll/Cyber-Bully kind. You all have my pity towards your [[Chris and remorse|selfish]], [[CWC_Calls_Out_Three_Na%C3%AFve_YouTubers#CWC_Calls_Out_sonichuizcool|demoralizing]], [[28_October_2011#Aftermath|incriminating]], [[Virgin With Rage|lonely]], [[Chris and Anger|hate-for-hate's-sake-filled jealousy and hatred]], and whatever [[Autism|mental and emotional issues]] you each likely suffer from.

You Trolls, Get A Life.

Sincerely, 
Christian Weston Chandler 
4/13/2012
}}

===to @cogsdev from me, @CWCSonichu===

{{quotebox|1=
Monday [[April 2012|April 16, 2012]] at 4:21am

Heh. Heh. Heh. ;:j

I am watching YOU, foolish Cyber-Bullies. I LAUGH at your ill idiosyncratic discussions and [[Ego|thinking you all are better than me]]. If you are better, Why have you NOT Learned any Maturity for yourselves. It is wrong to continuously [[CWC_Calls_Out_Three_Na%C3%AFve_YouTubers#CWC_Calls_Out_sonichuizcool|laugh at people with a disability]], and their mistakes, because [[Chris and Reality|the tables turn on the laughing bully and troll]].

[[Chris_and_religion#Delusions_of_Godhood.3F|I am in your dreams]], haunting you for your aiding and abeting towards your sole hate-filled reasons, [[Chris and English|jealosies and lackluster purposes]] against me and my family and friends.

You ALL will pay for your Crimes and Sins of Cyber-Bullying the [[Virgin_with_rage#No_longer_a_virgin_.28no_word_on_the_rage.29|once innocent]] good people and myself. Changing your avatar and screen name and website are all useless, because I Can And Will Find YOU again and again, and I will continue to Laugh at you all and your immature idiosyncries.

HA HA HA.

<nowiki>**</nowiki>This note will be removed from here after being copied or screencapped.<ref>http://789chan.org/cwc/src/13346684418.jpg</ref>
}}

===Save and Keep Derpy Hooves Pony.===

{{quotebox|1=
Wednesday, 25 April 2012 at 17:45

In my humble opinion, I actually like [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_characters#Derpy|Derpy]] for her name, given I feel the new voice is an improvement; her name is still very cute. I take no offense whatsoever to the word. I first heard the word from [[Wikipedia:The Biggest Douche in the Universe|an episode]] of "[[South Park]]"; I thought it was only gibberish, and it was funny.

Derpy should still be a featured character, because let's face it, NOBODY, or NOPONY, is mentally perfect, and it is a character like Derpy here that makes us all aware of mental disabilities, great (low-functioning) or small (high-functioning) to tolerate them and help them towards better self-confidence, because [[Chris and reality|we ALL need to feel like we are capable of surviving in this world, community and all public and social situations.]]

I, Christian Weston Chandler, of [[Ruckersville]], VA, [[USA]], respect and like Derpy, and I encourage [[Wikipedia:Lauren Faust|Lauren Faust]], [[Wikipedia:Amy Keating Rogers|Amy Keating Rogers]], and the rest of the [[My Little Pony|MLP:FIM]] crew to keep her on WITH her name, and create an episode teaching tolerance.

Christian Weston Chandler.
April 25, 2012

MLP: FiM - Derpy Talks and Derps
www.youtube.com
UPDATE! Derpy has been removed as canon from this episode. Whether it is permanent or not is not yet known. To see why, click this link to an e-mail the writ...

[[File:Saved.jpg]]

<nowiki>http://www.savederpy.com</nowiki>
}}

Chris later commented:

{{quotebox|1=
And what's more good, I have the Original Episode recorded as well from when it aired on [[Wikipedia:The Hub (TV channel)|the Hub]] on Janurary 21, 2012 on my DVR. I really like Derpy. Although I take back what I said about the new voice; the Original Voice IS Better.
}}

===I have decided===
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Thursday, 26 [[April 2012]] at 19:35

The time is too great, and these qre grave desperate times. I am going to start going back to [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|Fashion Square Shopping Center]] in [[Charlottesville]], Virginia, WITH my sign and going into my [[Sweetheart Search]] with Full On Guns a Blazin'. I will be there on bi-daily starting this Saturday, April 27, 2012 fom 2:00 to 5:30 PM, EST. And I do not care Who shows up, and [[Mimms|Photographs]] are encouraged with gusto of the mall, me And my Sign on the [[Random-access humor|Hippo on my Head]].

I Welcome All.

Sincerely, 
Christian Weston Chandler 
April 25, 2012
}}

Chris later revised this note, with additions bolded.

{{quotebox|1=
The time is too great, and these qre grave desperate times. I am going to start going back to Fashion Square Shopping Center in Charlottesville, Virginia, WITH my sign and going into my Sweetheart Search with Full On Guns a Blazin'. I will be there on bi-daily '''(Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays) starting this Saturday, April 28, 2012''' fom 2:00 to 5:30 PM, EST. And I do not care Who shows up, and Photographs are encouraged with gusto of the mall, me And my Sign on the Hippo on my Head. '''(EVERYBODY has a Hippo on their head; it is called the Hippocampus)'''

I Welcome All.

Sincerely, 
Christian Weston Chandler 
April 25, 2012
}}

Chris later commented:

{{quotebox|1=
I meant the 28th; it was my mistake in judgment at the time of typing up this Note.}}

===Maniacal Laughter from Who now? Oh, wait, It Is ME! >8D===

On '''28 April 2012''', Chris posted in Facebook once again, declaring "victory" against the trolls. His reason for ego-tripping was his belief that he had fooled the trolls by announcing that he would come out in public with a new Attraction Sign, subsequently causing them confusion when he didn't show up. Unfortunately for Chris, he ends up making an utter jackass of himself with this post, both by confirming that he [[Chris and Anger|let the trolls get to him in the mall,]] resulting in a shouting match that got him thrown out, as well as basically admitting that his brilliant "revenge" involved him staying holed up in his room, something he does every single day of his life anyway. The delusion that he has "won" when in fact he's shot himself in the foot yet again is really staggering.

He also takes the time to issue [[Death_threats#Likelihood_of_Acting_Out_on_Death_Threats|idle death threats]] to his trolls at the end of his bellowing, almost as if he was desperate for people to take him seriously.

{{quotebox|1=

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

You, ALL of YOU, Trolls and Cyber-Bullies, You all are SOO [[Chris and the Law|Fallible]], [[Jackie|Gullible]], [[Death_threat#Chris_as_recipient|Paranoia-Prone]], [[Chris and Fashion|Clownish]], [[14 Branchland Court|At the Bottom of the Heap]], [[Christian Weston Chandler|Stupid]] [[Tomgirl Pictures|FOOLS]]. For I, Christian Weston Chandler, have [[Chris and Reality|FOOLED the VAST Majority of You All]] (not counting those who have posted their own Suspicions). YES, YES, YES! I HAVE been reading your [[Christian Weston Chandler|comically inept]] and crackpot theoretical posts on your Forum. NOTHING IS Private to and of you fools. ;8j

To preface, I will enlighten your puny minds straightforward. I HAD no intention, purpose, or Ability to go to Fashion Square At All on today the 28th. Do you want to know why? OH, you all are soo impresionable. On the 31st of March, I was really having a bad day, what with the upcoming court date on the 4th of April and all. I was feeling very irritable then. I was walking the mall peacefully, but with the stress in my head. I answer a few calls from a troll or two, just to give you all a piece of my anger. Yes, Yes, LAUGH and SCOFF all you want. My answers were cursory and loud. Overheard, YES, I was chased by Jerkops. But I did not receive the yellow slip until the 25th of April that said, "BANNED". So, I later decided to pull a prank on YOU ALL. The elaborate Facebook Note; LETTING YOU ALL shoot yourselves in the foot more by Prank Calling the Mall, and their latest Manager, Mr. Weiner (his name was on the slip, next to "Manager"). I too scoff at his [[Pickle|small-sausage name.]] All I had to do was stay at home with doors locked, and let you all argue and fight it out. I read your posts and laughed and laughed at EVERYTHING you thought was true or what was false; theories and [[Honor roll|mistaken "facts".]]

You all THINK you know me, but you REALLY DO NOT, and You All JUST DO NOT, AND NEVER WILL, UNDERSTAND ME AT ALL. And as long as your Purpose of Knowing Me consists of that of Gossip Columnist or Worse, Trolling, Bullying, Cyber-Bullying, [[Megan|Abuse]], or anything of Malcontent, [[EXCLUSIVE_Manchester_High_School_2000_Reunion_Required_NOW|I Do NOT want you to Know Me EVER]].

In the END, you ALL have played Right Into My Hands, like me overlooking the battlefield and picking up/placing you all one by one into the BOMBING RANGE CENTER! I am a LOT more [[Slow-in-the-mind|INTELLIGENT]], [[Autism|WISE]] and [[Naive|KNOWLEDGEABLE]] than your puny minds can theorize; I am NOT STUPID, nor am I a moron. And you know what? [[Chris and Hypocrisy|YOU ALL Have MADE Me This Way; CRAZY and PARANOID with Loss of PEACE OF MIND.]]

I am [[Creepy stare|WATCHING]] each and every one of you Fallible Trolls, and [[Death_threats#Likelihood_of_Acting_Out_on_Death_Threats|REST-ASSURED]], [[Lie|I know where each of you live, and I am Coming After Each of You All!]]

YES, It was ME, and these posts WERE Real.

Sincerely,

Christian Weston Chandler

4/28/2012

<nowiki>**</nowiki>More Photos and Comments are in the appropriate Photo Album of mine, "[[Cwcki Forum ScreenCaps]]".
}}

===I am still Reading Your Posts, Suckas===
{{quotebox|1=Monday, 30 April 2012 at 01:41

And to quell one question. "[[JenkinsJinkies]]" "[[Trollin_Train#Hey.2C_Everyone.21_J.J._has_arrived._.28Thu_29_July_2010_12:19_AM.29|camp story]]"; FAKE as any of y'all's sarcastic responses. The idea for that pile of crap I typed just to [[Chris and Reality|convince y'all to believe]] originated from [[Family Guy|Peter Griffin]]'s Parrot; [[Wikipedia:Long John Peter|the episode]] Chris went out with the vet assistant. Polly repeated, "I had a gay experince at camp". [[Rollin' and Trollin'|PUNK'D!!!]]

[[File:Lucrid.jpg]]
}}

===Hey, Trollies===

Feeling the need to brag again, Chris posted on Facebook taunting the trolls that he wouldn't say a word about what he was up to...and ends up confirming that he got banned from the mall like a dumbass, lost his virginity to a hooker and went to a Mythbusters tour, [[Ego#Surrendering_Information|ironically divulging more about himself than anybody currently knew for the last few months.]]

{{quotebox|1=Tuesday, 1 [[May 2012]] at 5:53

You REALLY want to know what the Victory was for me on the Mall Prank? I'll spell it out for you in a nutshell. I got the BAN note THE DAY BEFORE I made the NOTE on me going back there. You fallible fools had NO PREVIOUS CLUE, neither from me, nor ANYONE or ANYWHERE else. IF you all had prior ban knowledge, Would You who have made the trip, MADE the trip? NO, you would not have. I KNEW THE CRITICAL DETAIL, and YOU ALL DID NOT; I Fooled You All.

And I'll tell you another thing, I DID Have [[Chris and sex|Sexual Intercourse]] with a Half-[[Cherokee]] Woman, but you all will never find out who. I'll give you an inkling; she's somewhere on the [[Wikipedia:Village Voice Media|backpage]].

You ALL think YOU KNOW ME; You REALLY DO NOT. I hold MORE information within myself that NONE of you will EVER KNOW. Like, MAYBE I went to a show starring the Hynamin recently. [[Lie|MAYBE I was ON STAGE for one of their demonstrations]]. MAYBE I got their autographs on my self-made [http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Duct-Tape-Wallet duct-tape wallet]. MAYBE I do not have a duct-tape wallet. I will neither confirm or deny anything for YOU life-wrecking bastards.

I ain't tellin' ya nothing.

[[Autism|I use that statement in the ironic sense that I am currently informing you that I am not going to tell you anything.]]

I ain't tellin' ya nothing.

Good Day,
Christian W. Chandler.
[[May 2012|May 1, 2012]]

P.S. It is now OVER Two-Hundred Screencaps, and Still Counting.}}

Chris's "Hynamin" show is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jamie Hyneman|Jamie Hyneman]]; there was a ''[[Wikipedia:MythBusters|MythBusters]]'' live show in [[Barack Obama|Washington, D.C.]] on 24 [[March 2012]], 100 miles (160 km) from Ruckersville.<ref>[http://www.mythbusterstour.com/washington-tickets/]</ref> Several leaks later would confirm that Chris did attend the ''MythBusters'' tour, but he wasn't chosen to go up on stage.

===Hey, Doofs! Leave Anna Alone!===
{{quotebox|1=Saturday, 5 [[May 2012]] at 6:43

She and I are friends, and we talk, but we each have our own lives. She does NOT deserve to be bothered by you doofy trolls at all. It has always been ME you want. She will never ever talk about me even in her wall posts, and she will never friend or acknowledge any of you. Yes, she is cute, and it is possible that she may look like my [[mom]] at a younger age, but I do not see my mom in her, and she is who she is, and I respect Anna as a [[Gal-pal|friend.]]

Aim your [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shit]] towards me alone, and Leave All of My Friends and Family alone.

Sincerely,

Christian W. Chandler.

May 3, 2012}}

===Mimms===
{{quotebox|1=Saturday, 12 [[May 2012]] at 6:35

Daniel Mimms knows a LOT about me. I have divulged a number of juicy stories with him during our card games. Do not believe his denial of any knowledge or association with me.

Facebook.com/TehRussian

Sincerely,

Christian W. Chandler

5/12/2012}}

===To The Trolls===
This message was in response to a discussion on the [[CWCki]] forums about a poster campaign on 2 [[June 2012]], alerting the people of [[Charlottesville]] to Chris's degeneracy.<ref>[http://cwcki.forumer.com/c-ville-poster-flyer-campaign-update-t2224624.html]</ref>
{{quotebox|1=Monday, 4 [[June 2012]] at [[Biological clock|02:20]]

I have continued reading your posts and alerting [[Jerkops|the authorities]] of your actions. NOBODY came to my house at all, you lying, cheating [[Trolls|bastards]]. Frankly, I grow tired of continuing to read your [[Dirty, Crapped Briefs|shit]] [[lies]], including the biggest hoax of yours, the Poster Campaign. [[Naive|Nobody put up any damn posters or handed out frigging flyers at all]]. I have been [[Ego#Surrendering_Information|reading your posts personally through "trombonista's" account]]; there was NO MOLE.

Sincerely,
Christian Weston Chandler
June 4, 2012
}}

===Hey! Damn trolls!===

Clearly cracking under the pressure of being duped by the trolls and [[28 October 2011|his impending arraignment in July]], the once smug Chris degenerates into self-pity even further. Ironically, [[Chris and hypocrisy|Chris has been guilty of almost every single thing he wants the trolls to stop doing to him.]]

{{quotebox|1=Wednesday 27 [[June 2012]]

Hey! Damn Trolls, Cyber-Bullies, and People ALL Around the Fucking World!!!

Quit [[Homos|HATING]] Me!!!

Quit [[Niggos|DISCRIMINATING]] Me!!!

Quit [[Megan|HARASSING]] Me!!!

Quit [[Bob|GIVING ME GRIEF]]!!!

Quit [[Death Threats|WANTING ME DEAD]]!!!

Quit [[Michael Snyder|BAD-MOUTHING]] Me!!!

Quit [[Twitter|BLOGGING]] ABOUT Me!!!

Quit [[Private_Villa_of_Corrupted_Citizens_(message_board)|HAVING FORUMS]] ABOUT Me!!!

Quit [[CWCki|HAVING WEBSITES AND WEBPAGES]] ABOUT Me!!!

Quit [[6 June 2010|PHOTOGRAPHING]] and [[Clyde_is_Weaker_than_Water|PHOTOSHOPPING]] Me!!!

Quit [[ShecameforCWC|DRAWING]] Me!!!

Quit [[Lars%27_Ship_Has_Sunk|MOCKING]] Me!!!

Quit MAKING ME LOOK [[Naive|STUPID]], [[Chris_and_his_Ego#Surrendering_Information|DUMB]], [[Slow-in-the-mind|RETARDED]], [[Twin Falling Towers|EVIL]], [[Sonichu Special 4|VILLIANOUS]], [[Strangle that Clyde Cash|BLOOD-THIRSTY]], [[Don%27t_Mess_With_Me|MURDEROUS]], [[White_knight#Chris_is_not_a_good_net_citizen|UNSOCIABLE]], [[Father Call|UNCARING]], [[Chris and Remorse|UNEMPATHETIC]], [[Chris and Remorse|UNCOMPASSIONATE]], [[CWC_Calls_Out_Three_Na%C3%AFve_YouTubers|HATABLE]], [[Chris and Race|DETESTABLE]], [[Chris and Anger|IRRITABLE]], [[Dirty, Crapped Briefs|CRAPPED-ON]], [[CWCki|ETCETERA, ETCETERA, FUCKING ETCETERA]]!!!

Quit [[Chris and his Ego#Fishing For Sympathy|MAKING ME MISERABLE, DEPRESSED, LONELY, SAD, and HATEFUL OF MY OWN LIFE]]!!!

Just QUIT IT, and LEAVE ME AND MY LIFE ALONE AND [[Chris and English|TO BE]]!!!!!!!

}}

In this post's comment section, [[Anna]] suggested Chris to change his phone number resulting in this conversation:

{{quotebox|1=Wednesday, 27 [[June 2012]]
Fighta Jet Lopez: Solution: do not use the internet anymore, and change your phone number. It's either that, or this continues forever. That's just the nature of the trolls.

Christian Weston Chandler: I can NOT change my number; TOO Much are linked to it, and I do not remember EVERY Last important person/company linked. Plus it is on my business cards.

Fighta Jet Lopez: But you don't have a business, and how many calls do you get that aren't from trolls?

Christian Weston Chandler: Firstly, I don't need to have a business to have business cards with my contact info and [[3DS]] Mii QR code and Mii image on them. Second [[Ego|I get all of the important calls for this household these days]]; I can not afford a new number.<ref>http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:June27.png</ref>
}}

=== You WILL be brought in! ===

One day following his [[28 October 2011#Arraignment, plea bargain, and sentencing|arraignment]], Chris updated to confirm that the account of his trial given by Cyan and Indigo were true, save for a minor detail about the exact words he used against Michael Snyder. He then stated that Rob confronted the "trolls" and that they would be brought in no matter where they were, which is an empty threat since nothing illegal was done.

As usual, [[Anna]] chimes in with "A small victory!" as a reply to this post, proving that, once again, she's an enabling kiss-ass with no constructive advice for Chris, even after he could have landed in jail for his own actions.

{{quotebox| Wednesday, 11 [[July 2012]]

Yep, the trolls know most of what went on in the court room yesterday; it is confirmed that two of them were in there, going by the online names of "Cyan" and "Indigo". Rob recognized them both, and informed them that their trolling stupid presence is noted and known. I have also found their transcribed, personal reports on the Cwcki Forum, and they have a 23 second video on YouTube of them driving by the courthouse and holding up the day's "New York Times" paper, titled "CyanIndigo", same as their account name. And they quoted me in calling Snyder "thieving and lying"; I had actually said "Bribing and lying".

Anyway, we ALL know of them, and they will be brought in regardless of currently being in Or outside of Virginia or even the United States of America.
}}

=== Stop sending me friend requests! ===

{{quotebox| Monday, 8 [[October 2012]]

I am not going to tell you all again; DO NOT SEND ME ANY FRIEND REQUESTS If I Do NOT Already Know You Personally and/or If I Have Never Met You In Person!!! And Do Not EVER Message me if I have Never Known You EVER!!!}}

To the surprise of no one, Anna encouraged Chris's rage with a "You tell 'em, Christian!" Additionally, [[Savannah Chandler]] liked Chris's status and Anna's comment, suggesting that she may be aware of her uncle's Internet infamy.

=== Please forgive me! ===

{{quotebox| Sunday, 21 [[October 2012]]
I send out this message to all people, especially the Trolls and Cyber-Bullies on the Internet.

I, Christian Weston Chandler, am guilty of a lot of things that have been mistakenly uploaded and leaked online; I have for a long time been stricken and made beyond crestfallen by the repercussions of my actions and words. And great mockery and egging has befallen me for years now, and it seriously needs to stop now. There are no "laughs" longer to be made at my expense, and the running gag is at the end of its tracks. It is better to Forgive and Forget, as told by Jesus, our lord, and is the way of our almighty God. So to everybody who has felt wronged with stuff I have done in the past, I am really, sincerely sorry. All I ask is for everybody's forgiveness and for everybody to forget my mistakes, errors, everything. Please, just forget about me in total; please, disband all online groups and individual hatreds against me; please, remove everything about me off of the Internet, your minds, and your hearts.}}

On October 9th 2012 screen captures of some of Chris's private posts from 2012 were leaked revealing Chris's conflicts with [[manajerks]] at [[McDonalds]] and a trip to Washington DC to see a Myth Busters live show. Also included was an attempt to dox [[Megan Schroeder]] due to a belief that she started the trolling as a means of playing kick the autistic. Subsequently, on October 21, Chris posted an apology as a public status on Facebook. A couple weeks later, he deleted it.

=== A Christmas Gift ===

{{quotebox| Thursday, 20 [[December 2012]]
I offer for all the complete set of songs and intros from the 1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon that my father hosted and played music of Jugs, Kazzoos and Washboards, Blues and Boogie-Woogie, plus three more hours of good jazz that was recorded with it on the original 6 Hour VHS.

http://rapidshare.com/files/3812165045/1990%20WTJU%20Jazz%20Marathon.zip

Merry Christmas.}}

=== It's impossible for me to make someone mine ===

{{quotebox| Wednesday, 30 [[January 2013]]
"Everyone has their own life to live, and I know it's impossible for me to make someone mine." -Nana O, the anime "NANA" English dub.

Yep...
}}

=== Sad, depressed, poor, and pathetic ===

{{quotebox| Saturday, 2 [[February 2013]]

I am sad, depressed, poor and pathetic. :_(
}}

=== No trolling plans ===

In this post, Chris screencaps the CWCki Forums and remarks how its users are conspiring to troll him, despite the fact that no actual post discusses plans to troll Chris.

{{quotebox| Tuesday, 12 [[February 2013]]

"No Trolling Plans"; Who the f*** are they kidding?

[[File:No trolling plans.jpg]]
}}

=== Smiley ===

Chris finishes watching Smiley, a universally panned low-budget movie, and takes it upon himself to extrapolate an anti-trolling theme. Chris also expresses his belief that this R-rated film should be exhibited to high school students as a form of education and feels it would reduce teen suicides.

{{quotebox| Friday, 22 [[February 2013]]

Just finished watching "Smiley".
(Spoiler Alert)
I liked it, because the people behind it had a general understanding of the horrible "fad" of Trolling and getting "LULZ" that has found me to be a victim of it for five years. After the initial scare and the move-in, the talk about the "underground" of the Internet: /b/, 4chan, anonymous, and Trolling really sets up the plot well, as well as start up a spot of pent up anger. And after the final death, the majority of "Smileys" were the drunken, bored idiots who get their laughs from seriously hurting people. And come into discussion, "Anonymous"; the central hub of the Trolls.

Even though this was considered a low-budget movie, it really speaks to me, as a victim. This movie, aside from the gory parts and the "R" rating, everyone who has been trolled or are aware of them at least a little bit, should watch this movie, even to have it shown in high schools. I feel it best puts it all into perspective, and it would certainly decrease the suicide rate quite a bit.

No one has to give in for their sick entertainment.
}}

=== Open Letter to Tara Strong ===

Chris takes a moment to publicly blast [[My Little Pony]] voice actress Tara Strong for apparently contributing to the cyber-bullying epidemic.

{{quotebox| Monday, 25 [[February 2013]]

I fully understand the video, "Twilightlicious", is nearly a year old now, but in due reference to my recent post about "Smiley", I feel compelled to comment on Tara Strong's (voice actress of Twilight Sparkle) contribution towards the very objectionable contribution towards promoting Internet Troll(ing)s/Cyber-Bullies. And I wish my full post be forwarded to Miss Strong's full attention posthaste.

While I do respect her voice acting in MLP:FIM, and she does a good job at portraying Twilight, I feel distraught in hearing her voice not only in promoting Trolling, but linking Twilight with the act. Even as to dare mark the now alicorn a Mascot for Trolling. As a lot of people are aware of me, I have been a grave victim of Trolling for over five long years. I have been emotionally and mentally scarred by the Trolls' deceptions, lies, blackmail, slander of my once good name, and so forth. Now I am like a black sheep of the world for the wrongest of reasons and people are afraid, and misunderstand worse, of me and of who I am and was.

So, I address you, Miss Tara Strong. Did you have any knowledge or acknowledgement of what Trolling was and is, and how these horrible people have and continue to mentally and emotionally damage innocent people with their twisted, sick, demented an evil ways alongside Anonymous and 4Chan behind the veils of the Internet? How do you stand in the name of protecting innocent people from being emotionally and mentally damaged from such bullying? And what were you thinking at the time when you recorded your voice for "blackgryphon's" meme, which obviously depicted and promoted Trolling?

If you had absolutely no regard to the consequences of the people, including myself, who were, are and have been the tragic victims of the bullying Trolls, then I see a lot of disappointed Twilight Sparkle fans and Bronies ready to boo at you.

Please, prove my theory wrong, and make a statement directly from your person, and in the good name of Twilight Sparkle, Bubbles and all of the characters you've given your voice to.

Sincerely,
Christian W.Chandler
Ruckersville, VA, USA

[[File:Mlptroll1.jpg]]
}}

One troll decided to forward this message to Tara Strong on Facebook, assuming that she'd get a kick out of it. The following day, Tara actually responded:

{{quotebox|

"I don't think I've seen anyone put an ugly spin on something this outrageously [[Ego|for their own attention]]. Anyone who follows me know that I'm on a huge anti-bullying platform, and even wrote and produced a song about it.

All my "twolling" as we on Twitter call it is completely adorable and makes people smile. Christian's article makes me angry & disappointed. Hope I never meet the guy."
}}

Despite not knowing about Chris at all before reading his rant, Tara seemed to have caught on that Chris is an attention whore right from the get-go. While he had succeeded in what many trolls assumed to be an utterly ridiculous campaign ''(although one can easily argue that it was Chris's trolls who pushed the pieces into place)'', Chris' attitude has once again made him a pariah, this time with the Brony community.

=== Trolling is Abhor-able ===

Chris followed the previous letter up with a brief note expressing his well-known distaste for trolls.

{{quotebox| Monday, 25 [[February 2013]]

Trolling/Cyber-Bullying/Bullying are All just Abhor-able, Wrong and Degrading to us all emotionally and mentally.

[[File:Mlptroll2.jpg]]
}}

=== I am Very Serious about calling Tara Strong out ===

Chris responds to criticism that his open letter is ridiculous.

{{quotebox| Wednesday, 27 [[February 2013]]

Yes, I am Very Serious about calling Tara Strong out, because Trolling IS Bullying, and I can hardly stand idly by and allow herself and Twilight to famously promote that which is just terribly wrong.
}}

=== So much in this world depends on Freaking, Stupid Eye-Contact ===

Possibly in reference to helpful advice Rocky or the court-appointed counselor has given him, Chris complains about the difficulty of eye contact.

{{quotebox| Friday, 8 [[March 2013]]

So much in this world depends on Freaking, Stupid Eye-Contact. :(
}}

[[Anna]] once again mindlessly agrees with Chris in a reply to his post, remarking that eye contact is like "staring into a bright light."

=== Sonichu is not dead ===

Chris remarks that Sonichu has not died, despite rumors to the contrary, and makes no promises for the return of the Sonichu comic. Interestingly enough, he claims he "was an amateur", implying that he is now professional and the quality of his work has improved. Of course, the rest of us know that this is [[Chris and art|almost certainly not the case]].

{{quotebox| Saturday, 9 [[March 2013]]

Listen up.

When I was online with my comic pages, I had never really planned ahead as I should have with releases and such. I was an amateur, I got scared off, I still feel very timid. I am not making any promises with anything for the future. Nobody in my comicverse is dead. Do not have any expectations of me.
}}

=== Gay Marriage ===

Oblivious to a pivotal moment in US history, Chris complains about frequent media coverage of the gay marriage Supreme Court case ''Hollingsworth v. Perry'', probably because the news is preempting his [[My Little Pony]] reruns. Chris also takes this time to express his support for lesbian marriage while blasting the "damn homosexual men", probably only because [[Women's rights|lesbians are hot]] and [[Homos|homo]] men are icky.

{{quotebox| Thursday, 28 [[March 2013]]
Another thing that really [[Family Guy|Grinds My Gears]]:

I mean no personal offense, and I am For Lesbians being together and their marriage. But I am really offended with the damn homosexual males altogether. So I am like 50/50 on the current topic in the newspapers, but I am 100% sick, tired and disgusted of having to read at least the headlines in the Post. Talk about something else already!
}}

The next day, [[Anna]] called Chris out on his bigotry, showing that his behavior is even beginning to alienate his enablers:

{{quoteboxred|it isn't right for you to be okay with lesbians and not be okay with gays}}

On 31 March, Chris shot back with this red herring that fails to address the original issue:

{{quotebox|Like it is not right for me to prefer women over men for attraction and companionship? Or a number of women not liking women over men for their catty attitudes?}}

In addition, another one of [[Kim Wilson|Chris' friends]] joined in on the fray, attempting to inject some insight into Chris' rambling train of thought:

{{quoteboxgreen|Huh. That's weird. Y'know, the gay women are taking potential girlfriends away from you. And the gay men are [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|keeping other men from taking potential girlfriends from you]]. So, you've got it backwards.

Anyway, you know, some people might be against autistic rights you know. What if people are offended by you and say you shouldnt have a girlfriend?}}

On April 1, Chris predictably responded with this set of delusions and contradictions:

{{quotebox|Well, I do not like the majority of the [[JERKS|male population]] regardless.

The straight ones take the women away. The damn homo males not only [[Lie|tried]] to push their gross ways onto me, but have emotionally and mentally devastated me in their shit Troll/Cyber-Bully ways, and they have mislabeled me and Sonichu as such. Damned males piss me the hell off.}}

In short, Chris is against gay marriage because of his trolls, also subscribing to the belief that all homosexual men are trolls hellbent on his (and [[Sonichu|Sonichu's]]) destruction. [[Chris and his ego|By making the entire argument about himself]], Chris has also conviently ignored Kim's original point of lesbians taking away the women.

On 2 April, Kim made note of Chris' non-answer:

{{quoteboxgreen|Huh? But that doesn't have anything to do with the original post...

But yeah, nah, they're not actually trying to push their sexuality on you. They just know that you react to it and took advantage of that. They're almost certainly not gay and probably many of them aren't even men.

You've really got to cut down on the sexism, Chris. Women find it unattractive.}}

=== Game Place ===

Chris, ''five years after his ban'' and a half-year after its legal enforcement, still obsesses about [[Michael Snyder]] and [[The GAMe PLACe]].

{{quotebox|Thursday, 4 [[April 2013]]
I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace.}}

=== Sega Mascot Contest ===

Chris complains about Sega hosting a mascot contest, believing from the linked article that they are trying to replace [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].

{{quotebox|Monday, 29 [[April 2013]]

Okay, now THIS pisses me off. I am not one who is to be blamed here; there are a lot of sick people who perverted Sonic's good name. Especially those who made him out as a homo, when he is not. Hell! He had a thing going on for a long time with Sally Acorn in his comic book series.

SEGA, Sonic was praised a lot better than Mario, because Sonic has more attitude, is stronger and faster, and he talks in his games more than the catchphrase-spewing plumber did.

And in any case, Sonic has replaced my hero before him, the American Rabbit. Shelving Sonic away will be the worst mistake SEGA will ever make since they stopped their console series at the Dreamcast.

Sonic For SEGA RAW!!! And Forever!!!

http://www.p4rgaming.com/sega-seeking-new-mascot-since-sonic-has-been-ruined-by-fans/}}

Chris then added a reply to his own Facebook post, [[Chris and his Ego|which he subsequently "liked".]]

{{quotebox|
Besides which, no matter what any new mascot comes around, ALL of the sick, bored People and Internet Trolls and Cyber-Bullies will leech the good name away from him or her or it anyway.

The better option is to stay strong with Sonic.
}}

=== "The Trolls Who Cry Woman" ===

Chris posts a rather ''insensitive'' musing, comparing online socialization to teenage pregnancy, starring in porn and '''being raped.''' He also goes on to rant about "being set up" ''(most likely referring to his date with Emily and the Pickle Man.)''

{{quotebox|Monday, 29 April 2013 at 11:00

Here's a musing:

Heard of "The Boy Who Cries Wolf"? Today's Internet Trolls and Cyber-Bullies who pretend to be the opposite gender to everyone they talk to online, making socializing online the worst mistake of anyone's life since teenage pregnancy, starring in a porn, or rape. And when a date is set up, they always stand you up, or if they do make it, they have someone else hiding nearby with a camera to record the whole thing to transform into something dark, evil and sick to be used against you to smear your name.

Today's version of the classic should be called, "The Online Trolls Who Cry Woman".

}}

=== Headache ===

Chris makes another "musing":

{{quotebox|Monday, 7 [[May 2013]] at 12:08
Musing:

A headache is equal to the amount of thought put into making it.

}}

...your guess is as good as ours as to what that even means.

===THEY ARE NOT SERIOUS!!!===

Chris-Chan gives his thoughts on the upcoming movie, ''My Little Pony: Equestria Girls''

{{quotebox|Wednesday, 15 May 2013 at 8:46
THEY ARE NOT SERIOUS!!!

Officially Turning The Ponies HUMAN?!! That is just terrible! WTF are they thinking; 

they're inviting High School Pedofile Perverts into the fanbase this way. As is the 
horse enthusiasts were not enough. 

If they really wanted to bring humans into G4, they would do their best to replicate the G1 
Pilot with Megan and her family. 

I am still mixed-up and not sure about "Transformers Prime" going "Beast Wars". 
And I do like a High School Drama when it's good, like "Daria", "MTV's Undressed", 
"O'Grady" and "Sabrina the Teenage Witch". 

High School Drama for My Little Pony?!! They ought to re-air Generation 2 with "My 
Little Pony Tales". 

With due respect, Lauren Faust, Tara Strong the rest of the crew are Out Of Their 
Minds in turning the Ponies Human! Just Invite Megan, or re-air G2! 

Christian Weston Chandler, 
Ruckersville, VA, USA 
May 14, 2013 
}}

Four minutes later Chris posted the following response to his note:

{{quotebox|SOMEBODY, PLEASE PULL THE PLUG ON THIS THING NOW!!!}}

===Trolls got my fresh post!===

{{quotebox|Thursday, May 30 2013

Damn it! Trolls got my fresh post! Removed the prime suspect; will monitor,}}

Anna then replied,

{{quoteboxred|I'd take a closer look at the people on your friends list who you don't know in real life.}}

===I have had more freedom when my father was alive===

Chris laments that he had more freedom when his father was still alive, and goes onto complain [[White_knights#Chris_cares_only_for_himself|about how he has to take time out of his day]] to "serve and protect" [[Barb|his mother]]. Note how, in typical Chris fashion, he aims the blamethrower right at Michael Snyder for his troubles, ignoring the fact that the events of [[28 October 2011]] was his ''own'' fault and would not have happened had he stayed away like he should have.

{{quotebox|Wednesday, 5 June 2013
Good grief! I started playing resident evil revelations on [[PS3|PlayStation three]] in front of my [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] and she had to be grossed out about it even when I'm scanning. And she even watch me play [[God of War|God of war Ascension]] as if she's not as gross out from the bloodshed from back game? And she goes on to complain to me about how it would affect my mind. I mean I've played this game before on my [[3DS]]; The beneficial part now is that I can earn the trophies.

My mother has really been getting on my nerves! I really need my [[Sweetheart|girlfriend]] so that I can get away from here now and then; and I cannot even go downtown now because it wastes so much gas and gas is so costly! And make guys on my mother's concern for gas cost that is one reason why I have been on my sabbatical from my [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]].

I have had more freedom when my [[Bob Chandler|father]] was alive and I end up losing it when he [[Chris_and_death#Robert_Franklin_Chandler_Jr._.281927-2011.29|passed away]] because now I got to serve my mother and protect her and everything! And I can blame that sonofabitch [[Michael Snyder]] for taking an wasting the money that my mom and I had soon gotten from my father's passing because he had to go send us to court for all the goddamn shit of his! Michael Snyder is a bastard to me and my mother for taking us to court he essentially stole a lot of money from us indirectly!
}}

===I am so lonely===

{{quotebox|Sunday, via mobile
Damn! I am so lonely. I do not know whether to wait for my [[Sweetheart|girlfriend]] or to move on because the weights is driving me crazy among the loneliness of other things; [[stress]] of my life! Hell, first woman to Ask me out, in person I'd probably say yes.

<nowiki> *sigh* *groan* *grunt*</nowiki>
}}

==iOS==
On 8 May, 2012, activity on Chris's Facebook page read that he recently installed the Facebook app for the iPhone, which suggests that he purchased an iPhone or iPod touch. The resolution of some of his more [[:File:Chris_FB_Profile_PIc_(May_8th,2012).png|recent]] [[:File:Difficult_time_lady.jpg|photos]] also fuel this suggestion. <ref>[[:File:Screen_shot_2012-05-08_at_2.18.33_PM.png|Screenshot]]</ref>

The "CyanIndigo" screenshot in Chris's post-arraignment message sports a status bar with the "nTelos" name on top. Given that nTelos is a regional cell phone carrier in the Charlottesville, VA area, this all but confirms that Chris has indeed [[Chris and money|wasted even more taxpayer money on expensive luxuries he does not need]]. Sure enough, on Sunday 19th May, 2013, he confirmed that he not only had a 4th Gen iPod Touch, but a 5th Gen iPhone as well. While one ''would'' assume that he bought the 5th Gen as a replacement ''(never mind that he could have just replaced the screen as far less of a cost)'', he confirms that he broke the 4th Gen one shortly before an article published on the day before ''(which was, conincidentally or not, about broken screens)''. According to him, one is for entertainment, and the other is for taking calls, "business" and going on the Internet. This, combined with the fact that he designed a duct-tape case to hold both devices, points to Chris needlessly owning the two of them for the sake of having the latest technology.

==Imgur==
{{main|2013 Imgur Leak}}
On 26th May, 2013, Chris threw a temper tantrum on Facebook, and he quickly revealed the reason why: somebody on his Friends List had screencapped all of his Facebook status updates (including the ones that were hidden) and [http://imgur.com/a/1HYJJ uploaded them on Imgur.] The screenshots not only revealed a lot of what Chris was going through between 2011 and 2013 ''(as well as a deluge of posts complaining about how lonely he was)'' but also revealed a very dark side about Chris as well - several photos revealed that he wanted [[Michael Snyder|several]] [[Megan Schroeder|people]] [[Death threats|dead]], and one post in particular demanded that somebody kill [[Mimms]]' girlfriend.

The biggest irony of it all is that the one who exposed all of this previously unknown (and very unsavory) information was ''[[Chris_and_his_Ego#Surrendering_Information|Chris himself.]]''

==Gallery==
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<gallery>
Image:Cwcfacebook1.jpg|Wall
Image:Cwcfacebook2.jpg|Profile, Part 1
Image:Cwcfacebook3.jpg|Profile, Part 2
Image:Cwcfacebook4.jpg|Profile, Part 3
Image:Cwcfacebook5.jpg|
Image:Cwcfacebook6.jpg|
Image:Cwcfacebook7.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook8.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook9.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook10.jpg
Image:Christina1.jpg|17-year-old Christina 1
Image:Christina2.jpg|17-year-old Christina 2
Image:Christina3.jpg|17-year-old Christina 3
Image:Cwcfacebook11.jpg|Chris rejects a single mom. The ironic thing is that this woman was the only one vaguely interested in meeting up with Chris.
Image:Cwcfacebook12.jpg|"Do I know you?" 1
Image:Cwcfacebook13.jpg|"Do I know you?" 2
Image:Cwcfacebook14.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook15.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook16.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook17.jpg
Image:Cwcfacebook18.jpg
Image:Chrisfacebook2011.png| A screencap of Chris's page from [[July 2011]].
File:Chris's Jan 23rd 2012 profile pic.png | Chris's page in [[2012]].
File:Christran2.jpg | Another Facebook profile picture in 2012. Note that it is in the same place as the previous profile picture except Chris is smiling in this one.
File:Chris%27s_FB_Profile_pic_as_of_2-2-12_at_10.58.51_AM.png | Chris's Profile as of Feb 2012.
File:Cwcfacebook.png|Chris, now with head band.
File:Chris%27s_FB_Profile_and_Note_as_of_02-06-12_at_1.01.29_AM.png| New note about friend requests.
File:Chfb1.png| February leak Part 1
File:Chfb2.png| February leak Part 2
File:Chfb3.png| February leak Part 3
File:Chfb4.png| February leak Part 4
File:Cwc.png|February leak Part 5
File:61013333.jpg|Full size Picture of Drawing.
File:Fbnote1.PNG|Facebook public note 1 (31 March 2012)
File:Fbnote2.PNG|Facebook public note 2 (id.)
File:Ufr.PNG|Another public note.
File:DoubleDogDare.png|Chris double dog daring the intruder of his facebook.
File:Derpy.PNG|The first brony speaks.
File:FSM2.PNG|Chris's master trolling attempt.
File:Noet chris knows now about us.png|Great Director is watching you.
File:Readinposts.PNG|Chris mocks Lucrid.
File:Trollies.PNG|Chris fucked a hooker.
File:HeyDoofs.PNG|Chris white knighting [[Anna]].
File:Chris_FB_Profile_PIc_(May_8th,2012).png| A profile picture as of May 8th,2012.
File:Temporary note on chris' facebook.png
File:Screen shot 2012-05-08 at 2.18.33 PM.png
File:Koreans.PNG| Chris on Eastern Cuisine.
File:Train wreck.JPG
File:Chris whines about ponies.JPG| Chris whining after seeing [[My Little Pony]] related "Dark Parodies." He takes particular offense at the tomboyish Rainbow Dash being killed.
File:Chris hates dark humor.png| Rant about the effect "Dark Parodies" of his own comic had on him.
File: difficult time lady.jpg| Photo Chris took of an elderly black woman who he claimed gave him a "difficult time".
File:Fbp2.png| Chris approves of this depiction of [[Chris and religion|GodJesus]].
File:Fbp3.png| Chris continues to make [[Doctor Robotnik|Dr. Robotnik]] unfunny.
File:Fbp4.png
File:Fbp5.png
File:Fbp6.png| Chris believes a Burger King employee to be a troll who is using his cell phone to communicate with others of "his kind".
File:Fbp7.png
File:Fbp8.png| Chris goes to see the Mythbusters, but is not picked for the Q&A.
File:Fbp9.png| No comments from Chris, and yes, even Anna is speechless.
File:Fbp10.png| Chris accuses Megan of being a troll nearly five years after the fact.
File:Fbp11.png| Nice to see [[Lego]]s haven't gone anywhere.
File:Fbp12.png| Barb with Chris at Mythbusters tour.
File:Chris Long Hair.jpg| A profile pic as of October 19th, 2012, showing Chris has grown his hair longer.
File:CWC Shampoo.jpg| Chris uses [[wikipedia:Garnier Fructis|Garnier Fructis]] Shampoo and Conditioner.
File:CWC Approved.jpg| Timeline cover art
File:1021fb.png|An Appeal to Humanity.
File:Chris Lego.jpg|Chris as a Lego figure. Profile picture, November 2012.
File:Facebook1.jpg|Lego Chris is reaching the heavens....
File:Facebook2.jpg|....and doesn't succeed.
File:ChrisGayMarriage.PNG|Anna finally calls Chris out on his bullshit.
File:He_just_compared_online_socialization_to_rape.jpg|Chris, comparing socializing online to RAPE.
File:Chris-Chan_-_FB_-_Equestria Girls.png|Chris criticizing ''Equestria Girls''.
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
*[[Facebook messages]]
*[[Facebook statuses]]
==References==
<references/>
==External links==
*[http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?imfjwnjrzi0 Notes]
*[http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?20mnnd1juu5 Status]
*[http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 His new Facebook profile]
*[http://imgur.com/a/1HYJJ Imgur Account]
*[https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6mRSOBYFcaBMEtpWExTVVBYblU/edit?usp=sharing Backup of the Imgur album]
{{The Internet}}
[[Category:Chris's websites]]

User talk:Aschlafly

2013-01-29T01:35:05Z

Aschlafly: /* Greetings */

User talk:Slimz

2013-01-29T01:33:56Z

Aschlafly: /* BAN THEM WITH FIRE */ new section

== Re:Userboxes ==

Information about userboxes and how to use them can be found on our [[CWCki:User_pages#Userboxes|user page policy]], which also has a link to our userbox category - listing all our userbox templates. Each template should have information on how to use it and place it on your userpage too. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 09:15, 15 November 2011 (PST)

== Re:Forum ==

Ask [[User talk:Freecell|Freecell]] as I don't really do much admin work on the CWCki forums right now. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:37, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:I didn't ban you the first time, but I did ban you when you ban-evaded. Personally, I wouldn't really mind unbanning you. You had some valuable contributions to the forum. That said, I have to respect that different people look at the same problem in different ways. We had to do something about it, and [[User talk:Champthom|Champ]] decided that the best solution was to ban you. You'll have to take it up with him. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 04:04, 17 December 2011 (PST)
*Do you understand why you were banned? They made an entire thread on you on /cwc/ due to how you "sperged" about how much you hated Chris, how it annoyed you that he breathed, not mention the stuff about how you'd like to see your autistic nephew trolled for having autism. You have brought great shame and dishonor to the forum, you have exacerbated stereotypes that the CWCki Forum is for "spergs." I disagree with Freecell, you contributed nothing of value to the forum and we are better off without you. I recommend you reevaulate your views on Chris (namely he's a retard and not Adolf Hitler) and move on with your life. I have spoken. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:56, 19 December 2011 (PST)

== re: chris and violence ==

i don't understand why you left your idea on the [[Talk:Pussy|talk page for "pussy"]], so i'll leave this on your user talk.
* [[CWCki:General|here is the page for posting stuff you're not sure where is supposed to go]]
* [[Template:Chris_and#About_the_.22Chris_and....22_series|here are guidelines for writing a new "chris and..." article]]
as for your idea, i think [[chris and anger]] already covers his violent tendencies pretty well. -- {[[User:A Pop To Lick It|a pop to lick it]]} {[[User_talk:A Pop To Lick It|talk]]} 23:46, 8 March 2012 (PST)

== Re: really ==

Just as a note - thanks for the laugh, I needed it. Also, calm down. It's grammar, not "SHITCOCK" pasted all over the page. There's a time and a place for Grammar Nazism. This really isn't it.

Thank you. I now drop this subject.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)

== BAN THEM WITH FIRE ==

Please do something about all the spam users plastering the RC. Thanks, [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:33, 28 January 2013 (PST)

User talk:Champthom

2013-01-29T01:33:34Z

Aschlafly: /* Hey */ new section

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

I have a similar problem and would like to be unbanned. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 23:23, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
*I'm guessing you got banned for being a sperglord, but what's your username?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
I was banned due to 789chan having a thread on me during one of their CWC dry spells. I went by Negi Springfield, so not much different from what I'm using right now. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 17:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I would also like to be unbanned from the message board. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 00:29, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
*You've had two threads about you on /cwc/ plus you've sperged about your "comic." No, you're not getting unbanned.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 August 2012 (PDT)

There was never a single warning I had received from any board moderator regarding personal attacks or violating message board policy. If my posts were so terrible, it only stands to reason that your moderators would have jumped in. Aren’t they the watchdogs of the message board?

What exactly is your justification for permanently banning people who have been mentioned on 789Chan? [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 07:22, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*There is a clear rule about over sperging and if there's a /cwc/ thread about you, odds are you've sperged too much. My moderators are often too lax when it comes to this sort of thing, which is why I step in. I don't need to warn you, you should know better, if you have autism that you choose not to treat that is not my fault. And my rationale? If you've got a thread about you on /cwc/, me banning you is the least of your concerns. In fact, I am doing a favor by preventing you from digging yourself deeper in a hole. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 8 August 2012 (PDT)

Champ this is right from the CWCki about “Sperging”
“The CWCki forums highly recommended place to discuss anything about Chris to your heart's content. This board was created in response to the growing demand for a place where people could discuss anything without fear of violating CWCki's strict talk page policies”

As far as sperging about my comic that was in reference to critiquing Chris’ art style

I mentioned there were open source graphics programs such as GIMP that were completely free to download. I brought up the fact that he could spend a little bit of his tugboat on reference works with royalty free manga stock images and copyright would not be an issue.

As for a few of the other topics that I started that probably sperged?
Are we being unfair to Chris in judging him?
Would you hire Chris if he was genuinely seeking employment?
Do you think that Chris and Barbara were intimate with each other?
If Chris decided to charge $250 for a for two day visit at his house and a no holds barred interview, would you take him up on it?

The board moderator(s) that I observed that wanted to put in their two cents worth joined right in on the debates: They had no issues with this. You mentioned the board moderators were too lax. I disagree. They were doing their job.

Let me share something with you: When that thread started about me around the beginning of January on 789chan and I was permanently banned: I monitored that thread every day. They went back and looked at my posts. Do you want to know what their reaction was?

They were baffled on why I was being banned. They didn’t bust my chops because of what I posted in the forum. What got the thread off the ground was a personal attack on 789Chan over a Beiber troll on my YouTube channel that came back and bit me in the ass. Was it a moment of stupidity that I regretted? Yup.

Have I been brought up twice on 789Chan? No. I’d say 5 to 10 times is more of a realistic estimate. It wasn’t sperging that brought me up on 789Chan. It was curiosity about my YouTube channel (which has been around for years) and more recently my website. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 20:31, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*Why do you want to go back on the forum so bad? It's kinda sad that you're going to all this trouble. Seriously, move on dude, talk about Chris on /cwc/, see how that goes. Hell, go to [[User:Slimz|Slimz's]] forum. Or start your own. Why do you want to go back on the forum so much? The point is that you give us unwanted attention and I have enough trouble maintaining the forum's reputation as it is.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:15, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
'''NOTE''' slimz forum is no longer active, never really was. Slimz would like to be reinstated in the forums as well :) i have bene here editing for a while ban was like a year ago. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 13:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
*Most of your edits are shit, plus what you do here has no bearing on the forums. You are the reason why everyone on /cwc/ thinks we're all A-Logs, there is no fucking way you're going back on the forum. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:35, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

I just took off my last reply. I'm not going to worry about this anymore. Do whatever you want. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 22:46, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
*What was the username you had on the forum? I've thought about it and I think I might just let you back on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:14, 11 August 2012 (PDT)

My username was Kengel1021 [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 16:04, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Thank you Champ. I am not sure what the policy for reentry is upon a ban lift under these circumstances so I have registered a new account(YippoBlippo)for the forums.--[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 16:23, 9 September 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

===My thoughts===
I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.

I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.

But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that [[Wikipedia:Repressed_memory|repressed memories]] in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.

Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.

In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.

So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.

Those are my thoughts at least. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.

Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?

As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
::: Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I've already explained myself. What is the harm in including it?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:46, 26 June 2012 (PDT)

So would you like the account info? I'd like to definitively prove that this is real and move on.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:26, 27 June 2012 (PDT)

* I don't think anyone doubts that you received the message, the uncertainty lies in whether the account you received it from is genuine which cannot be proved by someone logging into your FB account. And also whether it's important enough to go on the CWCki anyway. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 02:07, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

The what's wrong with the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? We've already established that there's an incredibly slim chance that it's a fake account, and this would reflect that small margin of error.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:41, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

* Ehhhh ... I'm still inclined to basically agree with Champ in the respect that this isn't really all that important and we're not losing out on anything major by not including it. I too also wonder why you're so insistent on this. Is this really so important that it's been worth the eight days of discussion thus far? That it's worth giving your Facebook info to someone to prove the authenticity of a point that is almost unanimously considered too minor to really be worth the effort? Which to me, I might add, seems an awful lot like something -Chris- would do, or would have done in the past. Honestly, the more you insist on having this put in the CWCki, the more skeptical I am and the more I feel that, for you, this is less about documenting things related to Chris and more about trying to boost your cred and adding more contributions to your credit. Or, like Champ already pointed out, trying to get into PVCC. Near as I can figure, the only one who is determined to see this in the CWCki is you. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 12:52, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
**This. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:39, 29 June 2012 (PDT)

*Alright fine, you don't want it, I'll stop pushing it. Champ can you let me back on the message board? I didn't violate any rules and it's been two weeks already.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:05, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*You broke the rule about being a sperg. If you wanna go talk about Chris, why not try /cwc/? I'm sure they'll love you there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:45, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*That's okay I'm content without being a member of either and just editing the cwicki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:08, 30 June 2012 (PDT)

====Help me out.====

I want to put this up as the video of the now but I'm not sure how. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r868reAYD4&feature=g-u-u[[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]]

== Ban [[User:Ireece1|this fag]] ==
You won't make me a mod, so get on it. Reason is vandalism. Check his user contributions. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:23, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*Not seeing it, all he did was say that 789chan was down (it's not anymore). Not sure what you're talking about.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:35, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*He implied a permanent closure when there was none. So my mistake, not vandalism. Inserting false information into pages. Still ban him. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:05, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
:*/cwc/ was down for a while and had a domain parking site in its place, it'd be easy to assume it's closed. A hasty assumption, but not inserting false information. Just revert since it's not the case and move on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:01, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
::* *stress sigh* Fine. I'll let it go this time. But I still believe you're not nearly harsh enough. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:53, 2 September 2012 (PDT)

== banned ==

My IP is permabanned on the CWCki forum...this was the reason: "Multiple Ban Evasions - Keep Your Cool :) " I was told to come here and grovel before you.

== Missed a pic ==

[[http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Hello.jpg]]

The vandal from earlier uploaded Goatse here as well. [[User:Cleaner|Cleaner]] 07:49, 17 September 2012 (PDT)

^ Ditto. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:05, 22 September 2012 (PDT)

== New Article ==

What do you think? Ready for prime time? [[User:Lumber/Chris and brand loyalty]]. --[[User:Lumber|Lumber]] 11:30, 1 October 2012 (PDT)

== New Article ==

What do you think? Ready for prime time? [[User:Lumber/Brand Loyalty]]. --[[User:Lumber|Lumber]] 11:32, 1 October 2012 (PDT)
*I was going to say, I'm usually reluctant to add another "Chris and..." article as I think they tend to be too speculatory at times. But I think this is a decent topic, as I've seen Chris's brand loyalty brought up from time to time on forums, though usually it's some component of it (like "Why is Chris so dedicated to Sonic?") and it's been a while since we've had an article of this caliber written. It's not perfect, but then again I don't think any article on the site is perfect. It looks like you did your homework, as did the other people who contributed to the article. So why the hell not? Go for it, dude. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:21, 2 October 2012 (PDT)

== Ban Evasion ==

Ban Evasion for What???? I had over 100 posts and had been here for more than a month. I posted in the Cwcki forum inquiring about posting on the General Forum and Smoked Daddy sent me a link to the General Forum to make a formal request. Smoked Daddy approved my request and I was initially able to post in the General Forum. I sent a message to Smoked Daddy saying the problem was resolved.

Because Smoked Daddy was new and somewhat unfamiliar with the technical side of this of the CWCki, the General Forum denied me access after replying to one thread and was no longer able to post. I sent another message to Smoked Daddy informing him that I still had a problem posting in the General Forum. I tried to log in to the forums this morning and saw I was permanently banned. -[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 06:52, 22 October 2012 (PDT)
*You've been banned before, you know why I banned you before, you don't ban evade on my forum (i.e. sign up for a new account). Take it like a man instead of ban evading like a pussy. I don't care if Smokedaddy was okay with it, you've been banned before and you're still banned, don't think you're that clever. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:55, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

Clever about what Champ? Are you implying there was some sort of subterfuge when I registered a new account? I registered a new account '''after''' you lifted the ban (from the 789chan controversy) to avoid any more controversy with my old name on the forum.

I openly stated this right on your userpage under the topic "Permanent Ban". It's still there and was there ever since registered the new account. You must have known I was the same person I registered with the same name, same address, same birthdate and the same hyperlink to my webpage.
This was right on my profile. Surely you check your userpage on regular basis.

On second thought: If it makes you feel better thinking I conspired against you, go ahead and enjoy your forum -[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 10:55, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

== ban evasion? ==

I'm confused as to why I'm banned from the forum. I never tried to register another name or anything. I wasn't a trouble maker and never had to be warned.

== Forums are offline ==

It looks like something bad might have happened to them.[[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 18:11, 6 November 2012 (PST)

Hey, Champ. I have webspace, and I'm willing to take up hosting responsibilities for the forum. Let me know what you think. [[User:SushiHazard|SushiHazard]] 12:57, 7 November 2012 (PST)

== This shit ==

Hey, I know you're probably busy with the forums and all, but [[User:Reldnahc_C|this guy]] is uploading some [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg10.jpg|pretty]] [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg2.jpg|stupid]] [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg3.jpg|shit]]. Considering this isn't ED and all, just thought you should know about it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 20:46, 12 November 2012 (PST)

== WelcomeBot Doesn't Work? ==

I notice that the WelcomeBot doesn't work anymore. Is it intentional or a glitch? [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 20:09, 13 November 2012 (PST)

== why was I banned? ==

Seriously, why the hell was I banned? All I get from it was Mew jumping to conclusions, Nia complaining about my description of my Chris dream, and Trombonista acting as if it's my responsibility to tell all the members something they could easily find out on their own.- [[User:Murderdartxker|Murderdartxker]]
*I'm not taking this all out on you but please, for the love of God, if you're going to ask me why you were banned ''tell me who the fuck you are.'' If you're using a different user name on the forums than your CWCki account, I need to know because I have no way of looking up your ban. I don't have access to any IP address stuff on here (the CWCki proper) so it's not like I can match it. Also be aware that I don't follow every single thread on the forums and I'm not responsible for every ban. In fact, I personally rarely ban people. I have no problem looking into why you were banned. I just need to know who you are so I can look your account up because I'm not a psychic. Alternatively, in the future, you can contact me at cwckiforums@gmail.com. Not taking this all out on you but I don't know why people who come on here using completely different usernames than their forum account expect me to know who they are. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:48, 19 November 2012 (PST)
My username is the same.- [[User talk:murderdartxker|murderdartxker]]
*Ah, here we go - Brooklynbaliff told me you shitposted, had some posts end up in Spergatory, and failed to take advice not to shitpost. Then you ban evaded by pretending to be a "friend" and asking why you were banned. I'm not kind to ban evaders, but I'll see what I can do.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:05, 19 November 2012 (PST)

==Banned for My Protection?==

"You know, most people don't PM me when they ban evade. Look, I'm doing you a favor, so you're not the next Chris-chan."

You're not fooling me. You're not "protecting me". You're not protecting anybody from "digging themselves into a hole". I've sat in 789chan (now n0chan)while you're so called 789chan policy was practially a laughingstock. In fact Champ you were responsible for Mew getting on their lolcow list.[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 15:17, 30 December 2012 (PST)
*I don't care. If you want to see what happens when I allow people to be spergs on my forum, ask Paul David "Eyebrows" Smith. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:03, 31 December 2012 (PST)

You are like many people with Asperger Syndrome who try using computer logic with a predictable result when it comes to human behavior. Such and such was mentioned on n0chan: Therefore such and such sperged.
Not surprisingly, you are laboring under a misconception concerning PaganDeathKnight. This was not just simple sperging. He unethically requested Megan’s dox, and then tried selling his services as a field agent. Most significantly, he came onto 789chan trying to be an internet tough guy much like Robert Wayne Stiles. In other words he was feeding the trolls.
Judging whether someone becomes a “Chris Chan” is not a computer-like science; it’s an art that requires intuition and individual judgment (i.e. analyzing thread direction, social interaction of the threads, emerging patterns, relationship history) and it’s different for each individual. Yes some things can be deducted but much of this is intuitive (reading between the lines) and you seem to be unable to do this. This can be learned by an Aspie such as yourself if you are willing to take the time to lurk in n0chan and study the threads and the patterns of interaction. --[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 19:30, 1 January 2013 (PST)

== locking non-talk pages ==

i changed the config so that non-jerkops/sysops can't edit the main namespace. talk pages are still editable. tell me how it works out --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 04:44, 23 January 2013 (PST)

== Hey ==

Do something about the spam usernames all over RC pls. Thanks. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:33, 28 January 2013 (PST)

2012

2013-01-08T05:48:23Z

Aschlafly:

[[File:TomgirlMNR.png|thumb|Chris at thirty. ([[ModNation Racers|self-portrait]])]]
'''2012''' is the fourth year of organized [[trolling]] of the [[Internet]]'s favorite autistic manchild, [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. Chris turned 30 years old this year.

This year did not seen much activity online aside from his occasional [[Facebook|Facebook posts]], possibly due to [[Bob]]'s death and [[stress]] from Chris's run-in with the law. Chris was [[This is how the Trial went|actually punished]] [[28_October_2011|for something he did]], and must now see a licensed psychiatrist. He must also perform community service, the first time he has worked in over a decade.<ref>[[Wendy's]]</ref>

If either of them had violated their [[28 October 2011|probation]], Chris and/or Barb would have spent some of this year in prison. So far, so good.

Despite a dry spell of activity compared to [[2009|years]] [[2010|gone]] [[2011|by]], 2012 is still notable, aside from what was said above, for being the year that Chris lost his much-hated [[Virgin with Rage|virginity.]] It's also the first year since trolling began where he hasn't personally uploaded a [[Youtube]] video, with any released being [[Jackie|leaks.]]

==January==
[[File:Christran2.jpg|thumb|Chris in January 2012.]]

{{main|January 2012}}

January was a slow month but there were a few notable events:
*Both Chris and Barb had [[28 October 2011|another hearing]] which led to yet another continuance.
*Chris re-opened his [[Facebook]] account.

==February==
{{main|February 2012}}
[[Image:1328397527051.jpg|thumb|left|Chris in February, looking more like his mother every passing day.]]
*[[Alex's Lemonade Stand|Cwcville helps]]!
*Chris [[Chris's birthday|turns thirty]], to celebrate, [[TheCWCvilleLibrary]] releases a grand number of [[Tomgirl]] videos aimed at [[Jackie]], who is apparently back in contact with Chris: [[The Red-Maned Deer]], [[Cakefarts]], [[Chris and Jackie's Date]]‎, [[You're Always Pretty]] (A wild [[Snorlax]] appears!), [[Little Tomboy Blue]]‎, [[Who's Your Brony?]], [[Forgot the Glitter]]‎, [[Teenage Dream]] and [[Cheerleader]].

==March ==
[[File:Chris cart.png|thumb|right|Chris in March, with his [[Sonichu|original character.]]]]
{{main|March 2012}}
Little occurred except a single [[Facebook]] public note, a few forum posts and another banhammer from the [[Fashion Square Mall]].

==April==
{{main|April 2012}}

Chris and Barb faced [[28 October 2011|another hearing]]. On April 12, Chris posted a Facebook message in which he claimed he lost [[Virgin_With_Rage|his virginity]].

==May==
{{main|May 2012}}
[[File:Chris FB Profile PIc (May 8th,2012).png|thumb|Chris in May 2012.]]

Chris continues to [[Chris and his ego|gloat]] over his supposed victories over the trolls. On May 1st, he posts a Facebook message saying the woman he supposedly lost his virginity to can be found "somewhere on the backpage", implying she was a prostitute. Also, another drawing of Chris and [[Jackie]] having sex is leaked, as is one of [[The Wallflower]]. Five [[November 2010]] and three [[March 2012]] pictures of Chris are also released.

==June==
{{main|June 2012}}
[[File:ChrisLemonadeStand.jpg|thumb|left|In June 2012, [[CWCville]] helped.]]
Chris opened a charity [[Alex's Lemonade Stand|lemonade stand]] in honour of [[Bob|his father]]. He also [[Twitter|tweeted]] and [[Facebook]]ed a lot.

==July==
[[File:Court-screenshot.png|thumb|Where the Chandlers faced justice in July 2012.]]
''Main article: [[July 2012]]''

On the 10th, Chris and Barb were [[Wikipedia:Arraignment|arraigned]] for their felony charges.

==August==

''Main article: [[August 2012]]''

On the 1st, it was revealed that Chris got [[Clover and Snoopy|two new dogs]], and entered them into a contest. He didn't win, and it's left to be seen if he'll throw a [[Adam Stackhouse|tantrum over it.]]

==September==

''Main article: [[September 2012]]''

[[File:Tumbleweed.gif]]

==October==
[[File:Chris Long Hair.jpg|thumb|Chris in October 2012.]]
''Main article: [[October 2012]]''

Chris's [[Facebook]] status and pictures are leaked on the Internet. Chris also posts an apology as a public status on Facebook asking that [[Chris and remorse|online groups and hatreds of him be disbanded.]]

==November==
[[File:11 10 12 facebook pic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris in November 2012.]]
''Main article: [[November 2012]]''

Chris released a photo of his [[Lego]] self on [[Facebook]]. He also released a new photo of his real self.

==December==

''Main article: [[December 2012]]''

Chris uploaded a soundtrack featuring his [[Bob|dad]] as a performer as a small tribute to him. Also, at the stroke of midnight on the 31st of this month, 2012 officially became the year since trolling began where Chris has not personally uploaded a video.

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Timeline}}
[[Category:Chronology]]

Talk:A-Logs

2012-12-20T20:51:13Z

Aschlafly: /* French version */

It's a start, but it could be a lot better. I'm only vaguely familiar with A-Log myself, so I'm not sure how much I could do to fix the article. While I don't want this to turn into an Encylopedia Dramatica article about A-Log himself, we need more direct comparisons to him and his actions to fully illustrate why this is discouraged.

If I might make a suggestion Champ, (and this is the only time I will ever say this), I think that this is something we'd need the /cwc/fags' help with. They're the ones who discovered A-Log, know everything about him, wrote his actual ED page, and let's be honest here; When you say the "broader CWC community", that's mostly referring to /cwc/. Why not go over there and put up an invite for them to help us define Alogging and educate the newfags? At the very least we might get some decent quotes from the anons explaining it a bit.

Just a suggestion. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:03, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

A couple of points...

:1) "Chris's discomfort for black people [...] is arguably more from failing to understand social norms in that you don't announce to the world you're discomforted by African American rather than of the ideology of white supremacy that your average KKK member would have"

:While I'm no Alogger or anything I think that his attitude toward blacks (and Jews) goes beyond merely not wanting to have sex with their women. Just at look at the way [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|he uses the n-word]]. Also let's not forget [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]. Also according to Mimms and Lucas Chris was always worrying that the black kids at the game place would try to steal his stuff, defintely a racist.

:His hatred toward homosexuals most definitely goes beyond regular homophobia. The casual American homophobe does not [[Mailbag 49#Chris loves his country|supports the repeal of DADT so more homos can die]] nor does he wish to [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|prevent them from buying certain brands of body spray]]. A typical homophobes does not wish to have homosexuals locked up and forced into reparative therapy either (I'm too lazy to dig up the chat where he advocates that but it's somewhere here on the wiki).

:Now granted, these are not good reasons for inflicting boddily harm upon Chris. He's too much of a pussy to commit hate crimes, too much of a lazy ass to go and harass people Westboro Baptist style and lacks any political clout to make his hare braind ideas a reality, but I still think that you're understimating his bigotry.

:2) Another argument that I can see aloggers using to justify their attitude toawrd Chris is his lawbreaking. I think that the best counterarguments would be: A) Chris's offenses are relatively minor and most aloggers would not wish physical harm upon a person other than Chris who has the same rapsheet. B) While Chris needs to be punished for his crimes, we already have the legal system for it and it's doing [[28 October 2011#Chris's|a bang up job]]. C) By advocating intentional infliction of bodily harm upon Chris, aloggers are being worse than him by supporting crimes far worse (both from a moral and legal standpoint) than anything he's ever done.

[[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 12:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

::Another nitpick: "White knights '''believe that Chris is capable of no wrong''' and try to help him [emphasis added]". I somewhat doubt that all white knights really think that Chris is completely blameless, and anyway that's not their defining characteristic. A person who thinks that Chris is much to blame for his current predicament yet also tries to stop the trolls and help Chris better himself is not a white knight? -- [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 16:43, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

*These are good points, NegaCWC and I think the fellow who added a bunch to the page addressed some of these concerns. It's a delicate issue, I want this page done right if it's going to be in the main namespace, so do you (or anyone else for that matter) think it's good to go now?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:37, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* If the fellow you're referring to is me, then yes, addressing some of those points was part of the intent of my last edit. As for whether the page is ready to go or not, I'm leaning towards "not just yet". Looking at it, there isn't really much in the way of hard information there, and a lot of it is within the confines of opinions and speculation (the arguments for and against). It feels to me a little more like something you'd see on a forum and not an article that could be referenced. I think a little bit more exposition on A-log himself, at least as far as his involvement in the ongoing saga that is Chris, and how the practice of "A-logging" came into being and came to be known as such, would probably make it feel more like an article. A little bit more fact and reference to balance out the opinion and speculation, so to speak. Course, that's just my opinion, and I'm just a noob. -- [[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 03:56, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said on the community portal, this is a tricky article because it doesn't exactly pertain to Chris directly in the same way [[white knighting]] does, or at least we don't have tangible documentation or anything like that of Chris responding to A-Logging. I really don't want to focus the article on A-Log, because 1) this is the CWCki and [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|the CWCki is about Chris]] and not so much ancillary characters like A-Log, especially given that Chris hasn't responded to anything he's done and 2) I'm more concerned about the mindset that was popularized by A-Log rather than the guy himself.
::I agree that in general, we should try to have articles based on facts and references rather than just our opinions and speculation. But I think this article might need to be an exception to the rule. The white knighting article started out as mostly dealing with the meta-topic of "Can Chris be helped?/I think I should try to help Chris" is probably one of the stages Chris trolls go through and it comes up time and again on Chris related sites. The problem with the White knighting article is that one can read it and end up thinking "Gee, Chris doesn't want help and he's not as innocent as he seems, that means he's an awful awful person and he should be punished." I think it should be pretty clear that Chris is not a spawn of Satan like A-Loggers would like to argue, it's common sense really. Maybe talking about A-Logging and what he did, merely to establish the type of behavior associated with A-Logging, would help make this more factual, with examples of A-Logging on various Chris related sites might flush it out and make it seem like an actual phenomena and less than speculation.
::Ideally I want this article to serve a few goals - 1) bring up this topic, because as I said, it comes up time and again and I think it's a significant meta-topic that warrants discussion, and 2) help CWCki readers and editors not be an A-Log. People have said it and they probably have a point that people often read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful, awful person mostly because we have a tendency to exaggerate for dramatic and rhetorical purposes. This article, coupled with a "Don't be an A-Log" rule in regards to article tone, related to [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]], would help the CWCki tremendously.
::At least, that's just my opinion. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:01, 2 June 2012 (PDT)
:*It'd be good if we could get a screencap of A-Logging from YouTube (there was some good quotes on a recent /cwc/ thread along these lines), perhaps a screencap from /cwc/ of someone A-Logging and someone replying with "HI A-LOG." -unsigned comment by [[User:Champthom|Champthom]]
*** Y'know, we DO have a good "HI A-LOG"-type message here - someone in the [[Chris and Money]] talk page was talking about Chris's SSI and trying to get rid of it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:49, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

I went in and did a major revision to this page. This was originally on my user page so I took it out and put it on this page because i think the subject matter is relevant to this particular topic on people who may think of "A-Logging" over the Michael Snyder incident.
Kengel1021
* I'm not 100% certain that the revision in question, at least as it is currently worded and formatted, is wholly right for the article. Despite the potential relevance, it doesn't touch upon A-Logging at all, and talks solely about the incident on [[28 October 2011|28 October]]. Moreover, the points you raise are mostly in defense of Chris and his actions on that day. I can see the relevance to A-Logging, in the sense that one shouldn't A-Log Chris over this particular incident, but the reference is tangential at best. I would suggest editing your revision further to make it tie more directly to A-Logging, because as I'm reading it, I feel it belongs more on 28 October 2011 rather than here. I'll further point out that your revision isn't -bad-, per se. Just that it probably needs work to make it more relevant to A-Logging, since you believe the subject matter is indeed relevant. Again, this is only my opinion, and what the bleep do I know? --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 00:41, 9 July 2012 (PDT)

I have a feeling you are probably right about putting it under the October 28th incident. But there is more leniency regarding this page than the October 28th page regarding speculative articles and I am not sure if this would cross the line or not. Perhaps a moderator could help us here. -unsigned comment by [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]]
* I believe the leniency here is because technically, this article isn't on the CWCki. It's more or less a collaborative rough draft until Champ thinks it's ready to go up. There's also the fact that the topic of A-Logging in general is going to be a bit subjective and speculative because, short of somehow finding actual A-Logs (or at least reformed ones,) most of what we can put is why we think Anthony LoGatto and those of his ilk do what they do. The only relevant facts we can put are about A-Log himself, and the fact that A-Logging happens. 28 October 2011, on the other hand, is all about a specific incident that is both ongoing and (in my opinion) much more significant than the A-Logging phenomenon. Still, someone more veteran than I am would be in a better position to make a call. I'm just guessing here. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 22:55, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said, the problem with this article is that it's mostly speculative and opinion and doesn't fit in compared with other articles, that's the main issue. It's easy to find examples of A-Logging - I could probably go on /cwc/ or browse right here on the CWCki and find someone saying something A-Logesque. I think we have an issue that we have people here on the CWCki who are A-Logs and don't realize it that they might object to some things in this article.
::Anyways, I'm tempted to put it in the main namespace, but I want it to be solid, namely that it can demonstrate that this is a phenomena that actually occurs and has relevance to Chris trolling, though in this case it doesn't directly impact him. I think some people think this is an article about A-Log but I don't give a shit about him, I'm more concerned about the attitude towards Chris that's associated with him and not so much the guy himself. The wording has become too weak in this article, "Chris is incredibly gullible" lacks the bite of "Chris is a retard." I can see that people might object to calling Chris a retard, especially since we don't have this elsewhere, but he's practically a retard on a social level. He might not be a technical retard but he's a practical one, he's what colloquially would be called a retard. The wording establishes that he's an idiot who isn't entirely cognizant of his actions, establishing that it's stupid to judge him by some high standard and treat him as if he's some maniacal madman who carefully plans out how they'll hurt people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

:This article is extremely [[Chris and Hypocrisy|hypocritical]], since it defends Chris on many of his flaws, yet everywhere else, the CWCki mocks him for these. This article should either be deleted, rephrased, have a talk page, or at least have an "IM WORKING ON IT!" template. The talk page would be very nice indeed --[[User:TRUEandHONESTuser|TRUEandHONESTuser]] 18:10, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
::1) You do realize that this ''is'' a talk page? Everyone's still hammering out a lot of stuff here. 2) Yes, it's defending Chris, but it's defending Chris from A-Loggers who think that Chris should suffer immensely for his actions, not outright defending him for his actions. Yes, Chris can be deplorable and it might be unfair that Chris gets away with a lot of stuff, but in the end, we're all trying to prevent future A-Loggers/Chris-Chans from rising up and becoming targets themselves. It's not worth it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 15:22, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
:*I don't think this page is hypocritical. Ideally, we shouldn't be outright bashing Chris like A-Log does. I don't think the problem with the page but with the attitude of the CWCki as a whole. People often accuse the CWCki for A-Logging, and I think they might be right. Chris really isn't a bad person. I think we try to be fair, if he does something that warrant criticism we criticize him for it, but I think some of the times we're too over the top, usually for rhetorical purposes and I think people who don't have autism should be able to recognize this. But I think we need to have this article so we can say "Don't be an A-Log." It's one thing to point out Chris's faults, it's another thing to act like Chris is a subhuman sociopath who's worse than Hitler and deserves to die. Seriously, Chris is an idiot, he's really not a bad person. If you want to see harm befall Chris or you think he's truly responsible for all his actions, get some goddamn help.
::This page frustrates me though. I think part of the problem is that a lot of you are in fact A-Logs who don't recognize the fact Chris is an idiot. The other problem is that people think this is an article about A-Log when it's more about the behavior that's become associated with him. I wish there was a term that didn't involve his name so we don't have this problem but I can't think of anything better, plus nobody would have any idea what I'm talking about.
::I think we're good on the basic counter arguments, what we need are some real examples of A-Log type behavior from Chris related sites (CWCki, CWCki Forums, /cwc/, YouTube, DeviantArt, etc.). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:27, 30 July 2012 (PDT)
:::I must say, I heartily approve of the examples section. We definitely need more of these. I'll troll around and see what I can find. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 04:35, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

==Citations==
Should we get citations for the examples? I know that there aren't any available for some, but I assume that if we were able to get these quotes recently, the videos they came from must still be around and we can get screencaps for at least a few. I ask, because that quote that claims to be from the CWCki I couldn't seem to find the specific user responsible for. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (PDT)
*Ditto, perhaps screencap an example for posterity, so people can know we're not making this shit up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:47, 15 September 2012 (PDT)

== French version ==

Is anyone against me porting over my [[User:Aschlafly/A-Logging-fr|french version]] to mainspace?[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:50, 20 December 2012 (PST)

Talk:A-Logs

2012-12-20T20:50:15Z

Aschlafly: /* French version */ new section

It's a start, but it could be a lot better. I'm only vaguely familiar with A-Log myself, so I'm not sure how much I could do to fix the article. While I don't want this to turn into an Encylopedia Dramatica article about A-Log himself, we need more direct comparisons to him and his actions to fully illustrate why this is discouraged.

If I might make a suggestion Champ, (and this is the only time I will ever say this), I think that this is something we'd need the /cwc/fags' help with. They're the ones who discovered A-Log, know everything about him, wrote his actual ED page, and let's be honest here; When you say the "broader CWC community", that's mostly referring to /cwc/. Why not go over there and put up an invite for them to help us define Alogging and educate the newfags? At the very least we might get some decent quotes from the anons explaining it a bit.

Just a suggestion. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:03, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

A couple of points...

:1) "Chris's discomfort for black people [...] is arguably more from failing to understand social norms in that you don't announce to the world you're discomforted by African American rather than of the ideology of white supremacy that your average KKK member would have"

:While I'm no Alogger or anything I think that his attitude toward blacks (and Jews) goes beyond merely not wanting to have sex with their women. Just at look at the way [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|he uses the n-word]]. Also let's not forget [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]. Also according to Mimms and Lucas Chris was always worrying that the black kids at the game place would try to steal his stuff, defintely a racist.

:His hatred toward homosexuals most definitely goes beyond regular homophobia. The casual American homophobe does not [[Mailbag 49#Chris loves his country|supports the repeal of DADT so more homos can die]] nor does he wish to [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|prevent them from buying certain brands of body spray]]. A typical homophobes does not wish to have homosexuals locked up and forced into reparative therapy either (I'm too lazy to dig up the chat where he advocates that but it's somewhere here on the wiki).

:Now granted, these are not good reasons for inflicting boddily harm upon Chris. He's too much of a pussy to commit hate crimes, too much of a lazy ass to go and harass people Westboro Baptist style and lacks any political clout to make his hare braind ideas a reality, but I still think that you're understimating his bigotry.

:2) Another argument that I can see aloggers using to justify their attitude toawrd Chris is his lawbreaking. I think that the best counterarguments would be: A) Chris's offenses are relatively minor and most aloggers would not wish physical harm upon a person other than Chris who has the same rapsheet. B) While Chris needs to be punished for his crimes, we already have the legal system for it and it's doing [[28 October 2011#Chris's|a bang up job]]. C) By advocating intentional infliction of bodily harm upon Chris, aloggers are being worse than him by supporting crimes far worse (both from a moral and legal standpoint) than anything he's ever done.

[[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 12:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

::Another nitpick: "White knights '''believe that Chris is capable of no wrong''' and try to help him [emphasis added]". I somewhat doubt that all white knights really think that Chris is completely blameless, and anyway that's not their defining characteristic. A person who thinks that Chris is much to blame for his current predicament yet also tries to stop the trolls and help Chris better himself is not a white knight? -- [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 16:43, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

*These are good points, NegaCWC and I think the fellow who added a bunch to the page addressed some of these concerns. It's a delicate issue, I want this page done right if it's going to be in the main namespace, so do you (or anyone else for that matter) think it's good to go now?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:37, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* If the fellow you're referring to is me, then yes, addressing some of those points was part of the intent of my last edit. As for whether the page is ready to go or not, I'm leaning towards "not just yet". Looking at it, there isn't really much in the way of hard information there, and a lot of it is within the confines of opinions and speculation (the arguments for and against). It feels to me a little more like something you'd see on a forum and not an article that could be referenced. I think a little bit more exposition on A-log himself, at least as far as his involvement in the ongoing saga that is Chris, and how the practice of "A-logging" came into being and came to be known as such, would probably make it feel more like an article. A little bit more fact and reference to balance out the opinion and speculation, so to speak. Course, that's just my opinion, and I'm just a noob. -- [[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 03:56, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said on the community portal, this is a tricky article because it doesn't exactly pertain to Chris directly in the same way [[white knighting]] does, or at least we don't have tangible documentation or anything like that of Chris responding to A-Logging. I really don't want to focus the article on A-Log, because 1) this is the CWCki and [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|the CWCki is about Chris]] and not so much ancillary characters like A-Log, especially given that Chris hasn't responded to anything he's done and 2) I'm more concerned about the mindset that was popularized by A-Log rather than the guy himself.
::I agree that in general, we should try to have articles based on facts and references rather than just our opinions and speculation. But I think this article might need to be an exception to the rule. The white knighting article started out as mostly dealing with the meta-topic of "Can Chris be helped?/I think I should try to help Chris" is probably one of the stages Chris trolls go through and it comes up time and again on Chris related sites. The problem with the White knighting article is that one can read it and end up thinking "Gee, Chris doesn't want help and he's not as innocent as he seems, that means he's an awful awful person and he should be punished." I think it should be pretty clear that Chris is not a spawn of Satan like A-Loggers would like to argue, it's common sense really. Maybe talking about A-Logging and what he did, merely to establish the type of behavior associated with A-Logging, would help make this more factual, with examples of A-Logging on various Chris related sites might flush it out and make it seem like an actual phenomena and less than speculation.
::Ideally I want this article to serve a few goals - 1) bring up this topic, because as I said, it comes up time and again and I think it's a significant meta-topic that warrants discussion, and 2) help CWCki readers and editors not be an A-Log. People have said it and they probably have a point that people often read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful, awful person mostly because we have a tendency to exaggerate for dramatic and rhetorical purposes. This article, coupled with a "Don't be an A-Log" rule in regards to article tone, related to [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]], would help the CWCki tremendously.
::At least, that's just my opinion. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:01, 2 June 2012 (PDT)
:*It'd be good if we could get a screencap of A-Logging from YouTube (there was some good quotes on a recent /cwc/ thread along these lines), perhaps a screencap from /cwc/ of someone A-Logging and someone replying with "HI A-LOG." -unsigned comment by [[User:Champthom|Champthom]]
*** Y'know, we DO have a good "HI A-LOG"-type message here - someone in the [[Chris and Money]] talk page was talking about Chris's SSI and trying to get rid of it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:49, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

I went in and did a major revision to this page. This was originally on my user page so I took it out and put it on this page because i think the subject matter is relevant to this particular topic on people who may think of "A-Logging" over the Michael Snyder incident.
Kengel1021
* I'm not 100% certain that the revision in question, at least as it is currently worded and formatted, is wholly right for the article. Despite the potential relevance, it doesn't touch upon A-Logging at all, and talks solely about the incident on [[28 October 2011|28 October]]. Moreover, the points you raise are mostly in defense of Chris and his actions on that day. I can see the relevance to A-Logging, in the sense that one shouldn't A-Log Chris over this particular incident, but the reference is tangential at best. I would suggest editing your revision further to make it tie more directly to A-Logging, because as I'm reading it, I feel it belongs more on 28 October 2011 rather than here. I'll further point out that your revision isn't -bad-, per se. Just that it probably needs work to make it more relevant to A-Logging, since you believe the subject matter is indeed relevant. Again, this is only my opinion, and what the bleep do I know? --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 00:41, 9 July 2012 (PDT)

I have a feeling you are probably right about putting it under the October 28th incident. But there is more leniency regarding this page than the October 28th page regarding speculative articles and I am not sure if this would cross the line or not. Perhaps a moderator could help us here. -unsigned comment by [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]]
* I believe the leniency here is because technically, this article isn't on the CWCki. It's more or less a collaborative rough draft until Champ thinks it's ready to go up. There's also the fact that the topic of A-Logging in general is going to be a bit subjective and speculative because, short of somehow finding actual A-Logs (or at least reformed ones,) most of what we can put is why we think Anthony LoGatto and those of his ilk do what they do. The only relevant facts we can put are about A-Log himself, and the fact that A-Logging happens. 28 October 2011, on the other hand, is all about a specific incident that is both ongoing and (in my opinion) much more significant than the A-Logging phenomenon. Still, someone more veteran than I am would be in a better position to make a call. I'm just guessing here. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 22:55, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said, the problem with this article is that it's mostly speculative and opinion and doesn't fit in compared with other articles, that's the main issue. It's easy to find examples of A-Logging - I could probably go on /cwc/ or browse right here on the CWCki and find someone saying something A-Logesque. I think we have an issue that we have people here on the CWCki who are A-Logs and don't realize it that they might object to some things in this article.
::Anyways, I'm tempted to put it in the main namespace, but I want it to be solid, namely that it can demonstrate that this is a phenomena that actually occurs and has relevance to Chris trolling, though in this case it doesn't directly impact him. I think some people think this is an article about A-Log but I don't give a shit about him, I'm more concerned about the attitude towards Chris that's associated with him and not so much the guy himself. The wording has become too weak in this article, "Chris is incredibly gullible" lacks the bite of "Chris is a retard." I can see that people might object to calling Chris a retard, especially since we don't have this elsewhere, but he's practically a retard on a social level. He might not be a technical retard but he's a practical one, he's what colloquially would be called a retard. The wording establishes that he's an idiot who isn't entirely cognizant of his actions, establishing that it's stupid to judge him by some high standard and treat him as if he's some maniacal madman who carefully plans out how they'll hurt people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

:This article is extremely [[Chris and Hypocrisy|hypocritical]], since it defends Chris on many of his flaws, yet everywhere else, the CWCki mocks him for these. This article should either be deleted, rephrased, have a talk page, or at least have an "IM WORKING ON IT!" template. The talk page would be very nice indeed --[[User:TRUEandHONESTuser|TRUEandHONESTuser]] 18:10, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
::1) You do realize that this ''is'' a talk page? Everyone's still hammering out a lot of stuff here. 2) Yes, it's defending Chris, but it's defending Chris from A-Loggers who think that Chris should suffer immensely for his actions, not outright defending him for his actions. Yes, Chris can be deplorable and it might be unfair that Chris gets away with a lot of stuff, but in the end, we're all trying to prevent future A-Loggers/Chris-Chans from rising up and becoming targets themselves. It's not worth it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 15:22, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
:*I don't think this page is hypocritical. Ideally, we shouldn't be outright bashing Chris like A-Log does. I don't think the problem with the page but with the attitude of the CWCki as a whole. People often accuse the CWCki for A-Logging, and I think they might be right. Chris really isn't a bad person. I think we try to be fair, if he does something that warrant criticism we criticize him for it, but I think some of the times we're too over the top, usually for rhetorical purposes and I think people who don't have autism should be able to recognize this. But I think we need to have this article so we can say "Don't be an A-Log." It's one thing to point out Chris's faults, it's another thing to act like Chris is a subhuman sociopath who's worse than Hitler and deserves to die. Seriously, Chris is an idiot, he's really not a bad person. If you want to see harm befall Chris or you think he's truly responsible for all his actions, get some goddamn help.
::This page frustrates me though. I think part of the problem is that a lot of you are in fact A-Logs who don't recognize the fact Chris is an idiot. The other problem is that people think this is an article about A-Log when it's more about the behavior that's become associated with him. I wish there was a term that didn't involve his name so we don't have this problem but I can't think of anything better, plus nobody would have any idea what I'm talking about.
::I think we're good on the basic counter arguments, what we need are some real examples of A-Log type behavior from Chris related sites (CWCki, CWCki Forums, /cwc/, YouTube, DeviantArt, etc.). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:27, 30 July 2012 (PDT)
:::I must say, I heartily approve of the examples section. We definitely need more of these. I'll troll around and see what I can find. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 04:35, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

==Citations==
Should we get citations for the examples? I know that there aren't any available for some, but I assume that if we were able to get these quotes recently, the videos they came from must still be around and we can get screencaps for at least a few. I ask, because that quote that claims to be from the CWCki I couldn't seem to find the specific user responsible for. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (PDT)
*Ditto, perhaps screencap an example for posterity, so people can know we're not making this shit up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:47, 15 September 2012 (PDT)

== French version ==

Is anyone against me porting over my [[user:Aschlafly/A-Loggin-fr|french version]] to mainspace?[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:50, 20 December 2012 (PST)

User:Aschlafly/A-Logging-fr

2012-12-20T04:17:43Z

Aschlafly: Created page with "''Il s'agit d'une attentat de traduire l'article <<A-Logging>> au français, et pour mon learning. la traduction peut ne pas être exacte This article ..."

''Il s'agit d'une attentat de traduire l'article <<[[A-Logging]]>> au français, et pour mon learning. la traduction peut ne pas être exacte

This article is an attempt by [[user:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] to translate the article "A-Logging" to french, for the benefit of learning. It might not be accurate.''


{{quote|Ce que Saddam a fait n'était rien comparé à ce que Monsieur Chris Chan a fait.|Un <<A-log>>, et une exemple de <<A-Logging>>}}
{{Protip|Cet article es au sujet du mot <<A-Logging>> et n'est pas au sujet du personne <<A-Log>>. Abstenez-vous de éditer sur la personne, s'il vous plait.}}
[[File:A Log.jpg|thumb|150px|La personne elle-même]]
'''A-Logging''' est un verbe décrivant le désir de souhaiter du mal à Chris Chan, pour les crimes qu'il est supposé coupable de. Les personnes qui poursuivre ce désir, sont nommé <<A-logs>>. Ils sont la inverse extrême du les chevalier blanc. Le mot provenaient de Anthony LoGatto, une contributeur à YouTube, reconnu pour ses attaques contre Chris, en dépit de ayant les mêmes problèmes de Chris.
==Motivations==
Il est quelque raisons pour ce comportement. Certaines personnes croient que Chris mérite vraiment d'être tourmenté. En faisant appel à son homophobie, ou son racisme, et sexisme autant de raisons de le tourmenter. Autres personnes sont simplement essayant de cacher leurs problèmes, par <<trollshielding>>, dans l'espoir que personne ne observer leurs problèmes.

==Arguments Contre==
===Chris se ne pas Hitler===
Tandis que Chris est une personne détestable, se ne pas Hitler. Par exagérant son problèmes, à tormente le, le A-log simplement exposer sa propre incapacité à comprendre Chris. Il semble probable que les problémes de Chris sont le resultat de son éducation désastreuse.

==Exemples==
{{quote|Il ya 29 ans, Satan est né et formé dans le pénis nous détestons aujourd'hui|ISLAVERDE29, une contributeur de YouTube, commentant les videos A-Log}}
{{quote|Chris Chan doit mourir! Répugnant imbécile|mxc82, un autre contributeur de YouTube}}

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2012-12-20T04:02:44Z

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