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Talk:Haters Gonna Hate.MOV

2010-09-08T08:47:40Z

Borednewb: /* Case? */

Trying to transcribe...having trouble--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 09:22, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
- Disregard that I suck cocks, I can't even refresh the page without lagging out.--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 09:46, 6 September 2010 (PDT)--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 09:46, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
* I have TRANSCRIBED DIS BITCH. Mostly. Rest easy. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 09:54, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

Pfft, Chris is using his DEEP SCARY VOICE OOOOOOO -[[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 09:47, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

==PS3==
I broke the page, sorry, but guess what I found. [[User:Ash link|Ash link]] 10:01, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

==Case?==
Chris said he was keeping the PStripple case as a memento, is that a console or the case on the shelf? Keep in mind, I dont' know anything about Playstation 3 cases. --[[User:Fearfulsymmetry|Fearfulsymmetry]] 10:19, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

For a second I thought it might be a ps3 slim with the old faceplate leaned against it, but after comparing videos - it looks exactly the same as the old one pretty much...did he get a used old fat ps3? perhaps on ebay? any recent activity on ebay? is it possible the one he crushed really was a decoy? [[User:Superwoman|Superwoman]] 10:40, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:Trollin' Train thinks the new one is a refurbished one from GameStop. Sounds believable. --[[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 00:48, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

It looks like the one he made out of Pixelblocks. Anyways, if he had bought a new PS3, why would he have it on a shelf? [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 11:31, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

Quick question. Chris used to shoot his old videos with the PSEye, which I'm assuming requires a PS3 to use. If he has indeed broken dead the PS3, how is he shooting this video? A case for CWC getting a new PS3, perhaps? [[User:Pickle Monster|Pickle Monster]] 21:27, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:The PSEye has been dead for a very long time. He's using a handheld camcorder now. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 21:47, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
Whatever it is, it's in the same place as the old one as seen in [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW]]. --[[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 16:18, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

That thing is actually in most of the videos that he shoots with the camera pointing towards the television. [[User:Blueatom|Blueatom]] 21:38, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

What's truly scary is how quickly this came about. Do those credit card he has not shut off at all when he's over the limit or something? Or did he forget all about his bills and put most of of his monthly-tugaboat in this? It always baffles me how much he accumulates and how quickly. Especially when the stuff isn't cheap. --[[User:SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 1:18, 8 September 2010 (EST)

Chris probably got his hands on an unwanted (probably not working) PS3 from somewhere for cheap, just so he could destroy it in order to collect the money. After all, aside from the (easily removable) case we have no evidence the PS3 was even his. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 01:47, 8 September 2010 (PDT)

==Wi-Fi Antenna Gymnast Ribbon?==
is that the removed wifi antenna which he spins around at the camera near the end?? [[User:Superwoman|Superwoman]] 10:38, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:I was thinking it's the Red String of Fate -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 14:48, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
::"What the fuck was that supposed to be?" was my inital reaction. I don't even have a PS3, so I can't tell if it is or not. At first I think that was supposed to be a whip (notably, quite a gay whip gesture), or those wires Ninjas use to strangle people, but the antannae makes more sense.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 16:25, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

== Wrong title ==

Should be Haters Gonna Hate.MOV (or just Haters Gonna Hate). --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 11:38, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
: [[Haters Gonna Hate.MOV]], fix this shit. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:48, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:: What was written by Chris-Chan, cause it might be note worthy that he doesn't even fix that file ending. --[[SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 1:01, 8 September 2010 (EST)

== Appearance and weight ==

He looks chubbier than usual to me. Thoughts? --[[User:ErsatzHouse|ErsatzHouse]] 12:03, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:2 things: 1) not a forum; 2) not really --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 12:41, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:: Maybe it was worth mentioning in the page. --[[User:ErsatzHouse|ErsatzHouse]] 16:19, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:::Yes, he gained some weight during the hiatus. We usually discuss this stuff on /cwc/ after every video, so go there for this kind of discussion. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 14:43, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
::::He looks much more like classic Chris in this video than he has done recently. Wearing his medallion, stood in his spot, making his videos and doing stupid shit. Rock on. [[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 18:10, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

== Digging Up Patti™ ==

Isn't this the first video where Chris has actually referred to Digging Up Patti™? At least I can't remember him mentioning this silliness in any other place before. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 07:58, 7 September 2010 (PDT)
:Digging up Patti was another one of the troll bounties, like destroying the PS3. That's the only connection I know.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 13:04, 7 September 2010 (PDT)
::Well, they also posted a thread saying they actually dug her up, using an image of a dog skeleton found on google, because they know he checks the forums. So he most likely went out and checked then was so eager to prove them wrong on video. -[[User:Sputum_lunae|sputum_lunae]]

== Haters.PNG ==
I used my psychic powers to replaced it with a jpg and changed the font to better fit the comic. Just letting you people know. When you take pictures from the comic don't use the png format.[[User:Magi-chan|Magi-chan]] 13:46, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

:Just have to say, love the pic! --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 17:34, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Stardate, August 27, 2010

2010-08-29T01:20:58Z

Borednewb:

{{Not A Forum}}

I started a page on this with just the link, new to editing CWCKI...I'll start transcribing the aduio - LyleLash

Already did :) [[User:Ash link|Ash link]] 13:50, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

So it seems that Chris, in a way, finally admits to being completely retarded. Just when you think the CWC saga is over, something new and exciting happens. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 13:52, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Two odd things stood out for me. 1) Chris actually admits fault, and 2) he uses his high pitched lying voice the entire time. --[[User:CuteDoug|CuteDoug]] 14:06, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
*And I'm bothered by the repetition of "My PS3 is gone, you don't need to try to destroy it". Is there a way we can confirm anything? Also the PSN profile shows that his trophies still exist, if that's any help.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:42, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:Trophies are saved to the network. Wiping the hard drive wont remove those. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 14:51, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:My bullshit detector is going off. I get the feeling this might be an attempt at "Trollbusting".--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:43, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:: Agreed. I think he's just trying to throw us off. He wouldn't have said it was a "misunderstanding" and we would be seeing massive levels of Tard rage. But I have a question: On the off chance that this isn't sum Trollbustin', do you think that he'll drop his money back into it trying to get all the downloads he had? Or will he just give up and start playing the Hex Bawx/Wii? - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 14:46, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: He probably only needs to re-download the things. He seems to acknowledge this because he doesn't mention his games getting wiped, he's just upset that his save files and miscellaneous downloads were deleted. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 14:51, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::<s>If it's true that he did format his HDD, then does that mean that he when he re-earns an achievement/trophy/whatever, then his PSN friends will be able to see that he has done so? I don't have a PS3 personally, so I don't know how the whole friends thing works. This seems like the most immediate way to see if he is telling the truth, though</s> disregard that i suck cocks. -[[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 14:53, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Back on the topic of the page, I think someone should add to the page that he was obviously bullshiting due to him admitting defeat and using that high pitched voice the entire video.--[[User:Hans Gruber|Hans Gruber]] 17:11, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:Definately. Trollbustin' is more like bullshit. [[User:CaptainCanuck|CaptainCanuck]] 19:33, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
::The lack of rage towards the assistant at Sony indicates that Chris is lying, as we've seen Chris issue [[death threats|death threats]] for trivial crap, he would go ballistic on Sony for having an employee even suggest that he delete his life's work. He mentioned something along the lines of this in his [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW|class reunion]] video. If Chris followed his own advice, Chris would see that everything on the HDD was wiped, and then blame the assistant with cyber-bullying. This and Chris following someone's technical advice seems out of character for our good ol' manchild.--[[User:Captkrisma|Captkrisma]] 05:23, 28 August 2010 (PDT)
::: The lack of either the Amnyfest ring or the Medallion of Fail is off-putting, at the least. Although, to be fair, he hasn't worn those recently, so make of that what you will. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 06:24, 28 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: Keep in mind Chris knows about the CWCki, and probably has looked at the article. I'd say leave the article saying he's telling the truth. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 18:20, 28 August 2010 (PDT)

==Wut==
It seems that he is suggesting that trolls were trolling him to get to his PS3. I guess he's thinking that, since he holds it in high regard, it is something everyone has respect for. The last part is what gave me this idea. As far as I can tell, he's saying that all the agony and stress caused by CC is suddenly gone, as if his sole objective has been completed. Thoughts? [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:00, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

*To clarify the situation, the PS3 has been the source of a lot of trolling. He thinks further trolling of it or with it is currently taking place. To stop the perceived threat, he pretends that he has lost his PS3 files for good. It's not a bad plan as far as Chris's plans go, but he's a terrible liar.

Also, this is a hell of a time for 789 to go down. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 17:15, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

==Accuracy==
How exactly do we know that "despite the apparent insincerity of the video, the events told by Chris are true."? [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 08:34, 28 August 2010 (PDT)
:ps3 activity. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 08:51, 28 August 2010 (PDT)
::What about his other accounts? I'm sure he's got enough brain cells to realize not to go on his [http://us.playstation.com/publictrophy/index.htm?onlinename=Sonichu Sonichu] profile... It doesn't even have ModNation Racers listed on it... Plus he commonly looks off to his left, a common sign of lying. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 11:35, 28 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW

2010-08-28T03:47:13Z

Borednewb:

I am transcribing this BITCH. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:14, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Fucking done. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:21, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Ahahahaha, Chris is going to organize the high school reunion by himself. This is awesome as it is, but we can't let this opportunity to troll him go by. [[User:EtonpilfAnetah|EtonpilfAnetah]] 01:18, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

How do we know that a reunion has already been organised, and that Chris was not invited? [[User:Sorrid Snake|Sorrid Snake]] 01:29, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

oh, i did some digging around. i don't have it on me, but i'm 95% sure there was one planned. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:30, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

I think the single funniest thing in this video is that Chris implies he thinks the reason he cant break into the video game industry is because of trolls working for Nintendo. Also, i'm pretty sure he wants a reunion so he can hook up, I'd imagine the last women willing to associated with him were in highschool. Also, I dunno what to do with this, do whatever if you want, just doodling.[[File:Names.PNG|thumb|center]] [[User:Pinefresh|Pinefresh]] 02:40, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Need any on scene reporters for this shit. I don't live that far away from Manchester High.[[User:ShinGokuIAM|ShinGokuIAM]] 05:23, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

* Sure. I'd post it here, but you Google it yourself....(chris if you're reading this you're a lazy shit). If the date is november then you got it. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

I checked it out a couple months ago, and I didn't see anything that would indicate that they had planned a reunion. Besides, if I remember correctly, Chris was on one of the mailing lists to be informed if something did happen. Given that few, if any, of his former classmates are aware of his internet notoriety, I doubt that he would've been left out of the loop.--[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 06:56, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

* Well, I have an address and date and time and everything. I'm sure that was probably a fake Chris... [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

* Oh, I see. You were posting your answer as I was posting my hypothesis. Leave it to the great Clyde Cash to be one step ahead of Inspector Detector and I. --[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 07:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

== Side note. ==

One interesting thing I noticed while transcribing this BITCH. Chris repeats his number for emphasis- does he think YouTube is live? Like live TV? He seems to do almost all of his videos 'on the first take', mistakes included, so this would seem plausible. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:20, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:*It's because doing multiple takes and editing is SO HARD and WAY TOO MUCH WORK. Also one take is much more TRUE and HONEST. Someone gets into it somewhere on the CWCki, but I forget where.--[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 06:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

== Transcribing his shit english? ==

We all know Chris can't present himself verbally, but it's getting to the point where it can be difficult to follow the transcription for his videos since they seem to be written out fairly close to verbatim to his actual speech. Since the transcribing seems to be done by a small group of people (thanks for that, by the way) it's fairly consistent, but even so, should there be some kind of guideline written up for it? Such as what mispronounciations should be included, what stuttering to include, that sort of thing? -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 20:47, 27 August 2010 (PDT) (signature added later for clarification purposes).

:*First of all, sign your posts (it's just <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your post). Secondly, some videos are transcribed like that- I transcribed part of Mumble 6 that way, mainly because it was Chris and Julie cybering and I really didn't need to go over and over that just to make sure I got every bit of his spastic stuttering correct. Speaking personally, I prefer to make the transcription as faithful as possible- including stuttering and mistakes. I believe that's the most 'faithful' way to render articles where Chris speaks, including this one. That's one of the perks about being a transcriber- you get to pick your style. If the inclusion of the stuttering (etc) really annoys you, the only thing I can suggest is to take a stab at the vast library of untranscribed audio we have available and transcribe it to your liking. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:24, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

::*Sorry about the unsigned, Slipped my mind. And I would probably be a bad choice for transcribing, as due to my personal history I use a spastic mix of English and American spelling, among other things. This wasn't intended as a criticism, just asking if there should be a general guideline. Like I said in the original post, the work of the transcribers is greatly appreciated. Sometimes it's just... painful to listen to him, and it's a lot easier to just read over his idiocy. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 20:47, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

==Hair==
So far, I've only looked at the thumb but from the image it really seems like his MPB is proceeding just as planned.
EDIT: Looked at the first few seconds. It's clear as day now. Chris is going bald really quickly. Anyone care to estimate how long he's got/ I would, but I don't know how to. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 08:04, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

:Think that as his MPB progresses we can chronicle his receding hairline? I'd be interested to see how quickly it is falling out now compared to the last few years. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:18, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

: I don't know how long he has but it really doesn't look healthy. It looks greasy and stringy and I honestly wonder how long it's been since he's bathed or washed his hair.
Either way, I'd say that he'll be completely bald by November. Just looking at it now compared to pictures from FAF, there's a very noticeable difference. - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 10:24, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

::Oh, this ties rather nicely into what I said about his [[CWCki:Speculation/What health problems will Chris develop first|endocrine/integumentary troubles]]. He definitely has androgenic alopecia, and the last three years have been something of a turning point for him; if you've noticed he's lost nearly all of his hair in the temples(which is where it's first lost), and about half the area in the frontal, it's at about a Norwood3 now. As to when he’ll lose the rest, well, It's hard to give a set schedule on hair loss as it's so dependent on specifics, with some individuals it retreats to a certain extent and then stabilizes(bob for instance), or it might just progress at an increasing rate. Chris definitely seems to be the later: his life style is going to have a greater impact as he ages, and his increasing body fat means that his body puts together more hormones ,DHT(hair loss skin problems) included, this has a disproportional effect because Chris seems to be sensitive to DHT(which is hereditary) and other hormones can convert to DHT but DHT can’t convert to anything else. You can see how this has worked by looking at a this from a case study standpoint: most of the loss he had from 18-26 was at the ends temples which is in line with the adult hair line men develop; past 08 though he’s lost all his hair from the temples, and afterwards started losing it in the frontal(middle forehead) at a accelerating pace, essentially we can consider that to be the full onset. If I had to give an estimate on how it’s going to progress it’d be that his hair in the temples area will have gone to his vertex in about six months, and he’ll lose the frontal in that time to a year (If you look you can see that it’s patchy in the front, which means it’s micronzing and a becomes progressively thinner every hair cycle, that's why you see it get worse every few months), the next likely point of thing is going to be at the vertex which depending on factors might take as much as a couple of years to clear out. I think you could say with confidence that he’ll have advanced alopecia by the time he’s 30, namely that the clearings in his temples frontal and vertex will have linked into one larger sea of bald.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 11:39, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
*Cool story, bro. Actually, i was looking for someone to say pretty much this. That seems to fit with my prediction range nicely, so that's pretty cool. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:45, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:Lolk, sorry about the TLDR, a simple answer just seemed misleading. I think it's pretty interesting that Chris seems to be trying his hand at a combover, so he's probably noticed. I wonder if he's going to try meds... given how extensive his hair loss is now(temple hair has been gone too long), he'd need a transplant to reverse it.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
::Chris can't even go bald with dignity. The worst part is that he still thinks he has a full head of hair. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 12:12, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

==Trollbusters==

Hmm, I wonder where Chris is getting his Trollbuster idea from? I've poked Google and beyond a website that shuts down patents, most of the Trollbuster gatherings were failures. Which isn't totally surprising considering who we're dealing with here, but still. My guess, though, is that he's probably either a) met a group on PSN or b) decided to come up with it himself.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 08:36, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
*The answer is B.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:41, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

** Ironically enough, the real troll busters are a group of lawyers that specialize in patent law: "[http://www.troll-busters.com/ Troll-Busters]" --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 09:52, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
*** That website is as terrible as their services invaluable. ... Anyhow: given there's a Trollbusters truck with a no-trolls logo, we can assume he's riffing on the more-popular Ghostbusters for once. You'd think he'd put the no-troll logo on the t-shirt instead of a block of text, but then Chris is a lazy idiot, so! [[User:EnsignDisposable|EnsignDisposable]] 10:00, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Next thing you know he's going to be talking about the cyberpolice and how consequences will never be the same...--[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:20, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

==Alumni Class==
So I checked online and found that Chris actually has 8 accounts with the alumniclass.com website. While you don't HAVE to pay for membership ($20) they give you a limited profile where you can't really do anything if you don't pay. Chris may have paid for a number of the memberships. This is really sad for Chris because, using a limited profile, I was able to find the reunion date and place in a few seconds. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:27, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
* So, was Chris deliberately not invited to the reunion, or is it just that he hasn't found out about the reunion because he's a retard? [[User:EtonpilfAnetah|EtonpilfAnetah]] 10:40, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:99% chance that those accounts are trolls. Learn to spot 'em... Besides, despite just about everyone saying they know the date/location, NO ONE has offered those bits of info. Instead of so [[ego|self-assuredly]] saying that Chris missed out and was uninvited, why don't we offer proof of this claim? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:00, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
::Fine: 504 Old Lynchburg Rd Charlottesville, VA 22903, November 08, 2010, Noon, I can even put in the contact info. I withheld it because I thought Chris might be watching this. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 11:28, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Well... I stand corrected, then. I'm fairly sure Chris is already well-aware of this in any case. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:39, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: November will be so cash. [[User:CaptainCanuck|CaptainCanuck]] 13:34, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

==Deliberately not invited?==

I wasn't "invited" to my five-year reunion because I'd moved a mile away from where I lived in high-school in the interim and I wasn't very connected socially with anyone from my class before or after. I found out about it, I showed up, I paid the $20, and that was that. I'm not sure anyone is really invited to their high-school reunion—it's put on and they're just informed of its existence. The invitation is implicit.

A more likely scenario is that no one was wont to research the current whereabouts of like 300 other people so they just organized the damned thing and didn't make it a secret. Chris might even have seen the information about it on the Internet not been able to wrap his retarded, autism-riddled brain around the idea that just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it the work of trolls just because he has a unique history of being trolled.

He might just think what many of you seem to think—that if it were a real reunion, someone would've contacted him if they wanted him to come. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 11:17, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

*You know, ''I'''d be pretty fucking paranoid if I found out that for the last two years of my life the only people I've had contact with were people who hate me and enjoy watching me fail, and that most, if not all, of the major events in my life in that period were orchestrated by said people. Just saying. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 12:54, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:I guess it's true what they say, then: ''you're just like Chris.''

:No, um... what's interesting about all the trolling—at least as it's been presented publicly—is how fucking obvious it is that the trolls never act like normal people would and that despite how bluntly he's told that he's not acting right and they're not acting right, he plows forward only to be humiliated and frustrated again without ever learning any lessons about how people behave. This whole problem could be answered with a phone call: surely someone the high school staff knows about the reunion even though the school itself probably has nothing to do with organizing it, but Chris insists on barreling forward with his ridiculous YouTube videos which have never helped him before and which he has no reason to believe anyone involved's going to see, before or after the reunion because Chris and Co. go on forcefully believing the first thought that oozes into their heads and go on defending it to the death for no reason.

:tl;dr Chris consistently trusts people he shouldn't and doesn't trust people he should for no reason and this is just another indication of that. It's on and he's invited—he just refuses to acknowledge it. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 13:42, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

{{Not A Forum}}

Why is it so hard for people to sign your posts?! It's just 4 ~ in a row. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 14:08, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:Every post in this section has been signed. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 15:26, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
::And I was supposed to know that the paragraphs all belonged to you and not to a person who doesn't sign their posts....how? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 16:51, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:One click actually. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:34, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

== Real Troll Busters ==

There is an actual group called [http://www.trollbuster.com/ Troll Busters]. It's in "patent reexamination services" which I have no idea what means. Either way, the important part remains: they have a copyright and a trademark on the name Troll Busters and they are not related to internet trolls at all. Judging by his recent Modnation creations he's trying to make some franchise out of his Trollbusters. Poor dumb Chris can't even google anymore. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 20:37, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW

2010-08-27T09:14:47Z

Borednewb:

I am transcribing this BITCH. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:14, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Ahahahaha, Chris is going to organize the high school reunion by himself. This is awesome as it is, but we can't let this opportunity to troll him go by. [[User:EtonpilfAnetah|EtonpilfAnetah]] 01:18, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

How do we know that a reunion has already been organised, and that Chris was not invited? [[User:Sorrid Snake|Sorrid Snake]] 01:29, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

oh, i did some digging around. i don't have it on me, but i'm 95% sure there was one planned. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:30, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

== Side note. ==

One interesting thing I noticed while transcribing this BITCH. Chris repeats his number for emphasis- does he think YouTube is live? Like live TV? He seems to do almost all of his videos 'on the first take', mistakes included, so this would seem plausible.

== Transcribing his shit english? ==

We all know Chris can't present himself verbally, but it's getting to the point where it can be difficult to follow the transcription for his videos since they seem to be written out fairly close to verbatim to his actual speech. Since the transcribing seems to be done by a small group of people (thanks for that, by the way) it's fairly consistent, but even so, should there be some kind of guideline written up for it? Such as what mispronounciations should be included, what stuttering to include, that sort of thing?

CWCki:General

2010-08-21T23:32:03Z

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For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

==Hey people, how about those Mumble chats?==
I've started a "10 minutes at a time" project to finish transcribing mumbles. Transcribing sucks, but 10 minutes in one go can relieve the strain on the people transcribing. Especially since if we get 10 or more people on board, transcribing a Mumble can be finished in the space of a couple of days instead of one person over the course of 10 days. I have a couple of people on board, but it would be nice to have several more. For the specifics of how it works, go to my [[User:Fuckingstupid|user page]]. [[Mumble_7|The Mumble chat we are currently tackling is #7]]. It would be nice if anyone who has a couple spare hours a day to transcribe a simple 10 minutes. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Chris and Love Suggestion? ==
I was thinking we should add a new article on the "Chris and...." series. Perhaps "Romance"? Maybe give an insight on his idea of being romantic. I feel we could write good article on this. There's a shit load of cheesy awkward sayings. Also,an observation on his behavior on dates with trolls could be good. Just a thought. --[[User:Bealtespip122]]

* Not a bad idea. Because Chris has blurred the line between romance and sex. With him, it's one in the same. Would be interesting to poke at I think. [[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]]

Aye, "romance" to him is just a means to an end. He sees act of dating as not about two people enjoying each others company, it's just to test compatibility so they can eventually fuck. Anything beyond that is just a ruse to keep the woman interested. I can't imagine him having a sincere desire to have an emotional connection with another human being, he just wants to be coddled and pleased. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 05:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

*[[Love quest]] more or less seems to cover this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

*I'd say the Love Quest really covers his attempts at "reelin' in da ladiez" and being thwarted by outside forces. Not so much as a personal insight into what Chris thinks is romantic or sweet. --[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 16:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
** Rather than being covered by the love quest page, it's just mentioned; same treatment for [[Chris and sex]]. The events of the Megan, Ivy, and Wallflower sagas tell a lot about his view of romance. Can't forget the essential McDonald's date either. Without some good writing, though, it might not make the best article. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 17:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
*well he wanted to make " Date Education" apart from sex education, i think a chris and romance, detailing what he thinks is romance would be a nice add to the cwcki.---[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

== Fridays After Five yet again ==

This probably isn't a big surprise to anyone, but Chris was also at Fridays After Five on July 16th. No pictures, I'm afraid. He was wearing a bright orange sleeveless shirt with what looked like a beer logo on the back and holding a Budweiser aluminum bottle, a little mini fan made to look like an iPod, and a hula hoop for some reason. Most importantly he had a sort of basic attraction sign with him, nothing elaborate or directly sexual but it said something like "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone" or something similar to that and with more smaller text under that I couldn't make out. He was sitting on the back grass part and left a few minutes before the music was over. I would have loved to catch Chris's attempts at using the hula hoop, I bet that was funny as hell. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 03:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
*Good work. Mind getting some pictures next time? [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 03:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
**If I get to Charlottesville again when it's going on, I'll see what I can do. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 03:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::*No pressure. It's your prerogative. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 03:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* If you're some tard trying to get attention, fuck you, die. I have to put that disclaimer in nowadays, nothing personal. If you're being TRUE and HONEST, thank you so much for reporting this, because Chris holding something that says "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone" would be the most unintentionally hilarious thing that has ever happened. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Oh no, this is very real. I have another person confirming the hula hoop thing. The man zone thing is what confirms it. Yeah. It's pretty damn retarded. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Holy shit, I'm just trying to help out during a dry spell and I'm even willing to try going back and get pics, and your reaction is "fuck you, die"? May I also point out that this very site has a giant banner across the top of the main page making in very clear that they want all sightings reported? What on earth is wrong with you? [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 14:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Well, I say thanks for your assistance. Clyde confirms what is obviously good intel. Pics are nice, but hey. Nice find anyhow. Keep up the great work. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Since we have confirmation, I guess I'll add this as a sighting to the Fridays after five article. Thanks a bunch Camelopardalis.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 16:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Thanks, guys. To answer some of the "What, no pictures?!" sentiment, I went there to listen to some music and didn't really expect to see anything photo-worthy. These are local bands that usually play in bars and so on. Lots of people didn't bring cameras, especially as the band was a country-bluegrass bunch, not exactly Lady Gaga. I'll definitely have a camera along next time, just in case. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 01:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Oh, and I think I can explain the hula hoop. If you look at the pictures of Chris at FAF on July 9, the wide shots taken from inside the seats area, not the close-up one on CWCki, there's two young girls and apparently their moms using hula hoops right behind him. I know the general opinion is Chris isn't a pedo, but all it takes is some basic logic that he observed little girls hula hooping at FAF and then brought one the next week himself. Not that creepy behavior is anything new for Chris but following up the kid-photographing incident with this? [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 02:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== "fan works purge", including TV Tropes even here ==

[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:Log/delete Partying like it's 1937] makes me kinda sad. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
* Meh. That Tropes "article" was one of the biggest crimes in CWCki history, and the Charles Wilbur Crushman thing was the first online item I've come across that was such a steaming pile of shit I could actually smell it. The rest I have no comment on, but there was so much selfsucking garbage on here that it justified a deletion policy, and it probably justified said deletion as well. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::Crimes against the people, I guess. Goodbye [http://www.youropinionsarewrong.com/images/random/stalin-airbrush.jpg Comrade T.V. Tropes], hardly we knew ye. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:::The whole fan works section was a mistake in the first place. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::::Counter-revolutionary nest that sabotages and opposes the creative work of the people. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::::: shut up, you face [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The fan-works thing started out as a few fun little comics and stories that where just basically bored people fucking around and satirizing Chris' shit. Then people started taking it seriously, or trying to become e-famous, or just generally being self important and retarded. The good "fan-works" can be archived and stored elsewhere, because unless it's specifically relevant to Chris or a Chris event it really doesn't belong here.

More importantly, most of the fan-works sucked metric ass, and it was bringing in a massive collection of morons that where really starting to fag up the place. Personally, I think the "fan-works purge" is the best thing to happen to the CWCki in a long time.

: I know I'm late to comment on this, but good grief, am I glad some of the stupid things I did were deleted. Was the whole purpose of the fan works section to make any contributors to realise they suck? =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 03:02, 6 August 2010 (PDT)

== this community portal split idea was retarded ==
a very good post by clydec age 9 [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
*WARNED YOU ABOUT THE SPLIT, BRO.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Look what I did ==

I made a couple of userboxes. Use them, disdain/ridicule them, or improve them as you see fit.

—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] ([[User talk:SeventhBase|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SeventhBase|contribs]]) 
:Nice work - just enhancing your template links and signing your posts. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:: no these are stupid [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 04:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::More userboxes are not really what we need right now. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== new idea for speculation ==
speculation runs high. split that up into multiple pages or something [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 04:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Chris and relationships==
Just a short idea: There are several categories regarding Chris relationships, aquaintances (for example [[Galpals|Galpals]] "Males Chris doesn't hate") orjust general people he interacted with. I think it might be beneficial to have a kind of overview regarding what people he interacted with in what timeline. Could also be linked under "friends" etc. in order to illustrate the extent of his growing social isolation and successive personal development. -- [[User:Miela|Miela]] 13:22, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== July 23 Fridays After Five ==

I was at FAF this weekend, didn't stay for the whole thing, I was gone by about 7:30 or so but as far as I could tell Chris wasn't there. Actually the whole thing was pretty dead compared to the usual turnout, especially the lawn area which was almost empty. Heat index was something like 110, so I can't blame him for staying home, unless the reason was that Chris feels he's too heavily monitored at FAF these days. I did remember one more thing about Chris at FAF last week though, he had on dark wraparound sunglasses on... UNDER his regular eyeglasses. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 22:25, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
:I guess that confirms his shades aren't prescription. Makes sense, he chose the cheapest frames available for his glasses, why would be spend the money for something expensive like prescription sunglasses? --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 22:28, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

==Modnation Levels==
I don't suppose anybody's actually played any of Chris's levels or anything?

It's completely understandable if nobody wants to play them, given that it's Chris, I'm sure they're all garbage, but currently all we have on his modnation efforts are a bunch of tiny screencaps I took from the website. We covered all of his LBP nonsense in detail, it's kinda weird that nobody's even tried to look into his tracks.

Any intrepid PS3 owners wanna step up?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:30, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if anyone else has suggested it already, but I've got a feeling that one of the best ways to reach (and troll) Chris right now is through ModNation, considering he probably spends most of his time there. Just track him down, join him in a game, "befriend" and chat with him... then beat him silly on his own levels and expect lulz. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 06:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure everyone would appreciate good let's-play videos of the ModNation levels (along the lines of the LBP owl level preview video). Does ModNation allow recording/playing back online matches? Dramatic replays and dreadful overanalysis of Chris's online games would be terribly appreciated. I mean, I don't watch motorsports, but microsecond-by-microsecond commentary on clumsy moves just might be worth watching. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:35, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

==Just a question==
Not sure it this is the right place to ask or talk about a question or if this is old news but forgive me if I am wrong about anything, but may I ask whats the deal with the Cwiki and /cwc/ fighting and every thing can't find anything about whats going?--[[User:Kota88|Kota88]] 15:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
*As far as I'm aware, there isn't anything. If you're talking about Delebonte being a fag and making a shittalk template, that doesn't have to do with /cwc/. /cwc/, as I see it, is a place where people go to talk about Chris. It's the watercooler where everyone goes to provide their own theories without threat of retribution. Cwcki is a place where facts are documented and presented. They don't really conflict, and /cwc/ doesn't really seem to be vandalising this site or anything, so I guess you just have bad information. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:49, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Ok thanks, what I got was something about something about legi0n or who ever being mad about furrys being on the cwciki and users being blacklisted by someone but idk, I can't look a the thread right now because when ever i got to the /cwc/ I keep getting the message saying "Website Disabled". but anyway thanks for clearing this up a little for me.--[[User:Kota88|Kota88]] 16:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
*I can probably explain that one. People on /cwc/ follow most of the same "rules" as other imageboards (e.g. 4chan, 7chan, etc.) and as such tend to ban furries and stuff because they spam their boards with fetish porn. On the CWCki, this isn't an issue, and so we have a more lax set of rules. For people who don't understand the difference between the two systems, they might be led to believe that we are a furry site, when in fact we are just tolerant. I wouldn't worry about it too much. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

==Old News (Possible Bulbapedia incident)==

Hey, newfag here. On Bulbapedia, there was apparently a small battle over whether or not to make Sonichu as a page, with Chris (obviously) being the sole supporter. A user posted quotes from their supposed discussion here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/blog.php?b=15577 Considering said user had no idea who Sonichu was at the time of this discussion, or shortly before I told him a few hours earlier, I'm betting money it actually happened. Thing is, this happened in August of last year, so where should it go? - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 12:47, 30 July 2010 (EST)
:(Are you Brazilian/Portuguese by any chance?) I can't really confirm it's him. The use of "OVER 9" (like that stupid meme), incorrect use of "Your" (he's stupid, but that's not one of his quirks), NOT censoring the F-word with asterisks, as well as calling you a troll outright (though I wouldn't put it past him, frankly) and declaring the "reality" of Sonichu out in the open (he does probably believe this, but he would only insinuate it)... These are rather consistent with a copycat troll than the TRUE and HONEST Chris-chan. But if we DO get a confirmation, it should go in its own article, along with a Da Update showing that new information was unearthed.--[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 05:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
*No, I was born in the Philippines, grew up in America. But anyway, I doubt we'll get any sort of confirmation, Chris has most likely long forgotten about this. I suppose I can ask if any of the conversation is left, but I don't think it'll prove anything. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 1:10, 30 July 2010 (EST)
**Well, this is the only other edit he made. "I would like you to know that Sonichu is a REAL Pokemon. I know, because I have over 9 years of canon from him and his world, and have been in talks with Nintendo to put Sonichu and Rosechu into animal crossing, and have been in talk with Sega to make a Sonichu video game. Please consider this. Thank you. I will dare to keep my dreams alive." Hmm. Yeah, from the looks of it, it appears it was nothing more than a poser. I doubt even Chris would say something like that. Of course, I'm a newfag so make of it what you will. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 1:55, 30 July 2010 (EST)
**Chris wouldn't mention the talks with Nintendo after finding out the people behind that were trolls. Too much wounded pride.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 11:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
***Well, the talks with Nintendo and Sega were mentioned at 02:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC), and all the discussion in the blog started about two minutes afterward, with Chris replying at 02:58. There's also a little bit of discussion above the Sonichu topic on his user talk page, but he didn't respond to that. Here's the link to his User Talk page: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:CWCSonichuChandler, and here's the link to the other bit Chris supposedly said.: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Evkl#Re:_Fake_Pages - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 10:56, 30 July 2010 (EST)

== Why are some people so eager to ban Chris everywhere on the Internet? ==

Including the people here on CWCki? Where's the fun in Chris crashing into PS3 slumber again? Damn, I wish Chris was allowed back to deviantART :( --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

More to the point, is there an official policy regarding stupid ass bullshit like "[[CWCipedia]] states that Chris may or may not create another account. Be sure to tip off the dA admins if he will return."? I think there should be.
*Overenthusiastic nobodies eager to 'stick it' to Chris and be the #1 trolin genious lolololo. It's quite irritating, and seems as if they have zero forethought. And I can only see this problem getting worse as time goes on and Chris becomes more mainstream. Feels bad man. - [[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 14:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Chris is known to act out a lot, and on deviantART, acting out is considered trolling and it will get you banned. Also the fact that nobody wants him around. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 15:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The same reason he gets banned from places IRL. --[[User:MoarDesu|MoarDesu]] 02:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

More times often than not, Chris does a good job of getting himself banned, better than the trolls at times: for example, his continued uploading of NSFW material to [[Flipnote Hatena]] damned him more than trolls could. The problem with Chris is his un realistic expectation that he is exempt to normal rules, an expectation that will continue to bite him in the ass. [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 11:47, 3 August 2010 (PDT)

== Chris's handwriting ==

Does anyone have a slightly recent example of Chris's handwriting? I just read a book on analyzing handwriting for character traits, and I want to see what I can pick out of him. Don't worry, I'll write the summary on my user page. I just need a sample. --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 16:41, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:[[Chris's Letter to Blanca|2008 should be recent enough]] --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 16:48, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:: OK thank you. --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 17:32, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:::The [[List of Flipnotes|Flipnotes]] should be the most recent example. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 18:26, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
::::The problem with those though is that they don't show pressure of his writing.

Anyways, I finished. [[User:GandWuser|Read it on my Userpage.]] --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 18:34, 2 August 2010 (PDT)

== Scripts for Sonichu TAS ==

Would it be fine to add scripts from the Sonichu Animated Series to the CWCiki? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 11:40, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
:The page is locked, so you'd have to ask an admin. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 11:46, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
::Who are the admins on the CWCiki? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 19:18, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
:::That would be [[User:cogsdev|these]] [[User:Clydec|fine]] [[User:Champthom|people]]. I suggest putting the scripts on your namespace until they're ready for release. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 22:27, 3 August 2010 (PDT)

== Spotted Chris at Game Stop ==

Another sighting! I went over to the GameStop at the mall and lo and behold, Christian Weston Chandler in all his glory. He was wearing jeans and plain gray shirt that was too small for him. I say too small because his chest was definitely accentuated and they came up a wee bit too shirt for a T-Shirt to be at. He was checking out the PS Triple section the majority of the time. I happened to look over my shoulder at one point and there he was, bent over with his tighty whities pulled up too far on his body, his shirt coming up rather far over his back. What he was bent over for, I have no idea. I turned back to what I was looking at and he was sighing periodically over who knows what. Then I heard, "kick da hex-box...kick da hex-box...kick da hex-box..." I had to look. He was kicking a row of X-Box games while saying it. It wasn't hard enough to knock things over, but still...what the fuuuuuck? The employee gave him a glance but didn't say anything. I'm assuming he does this on a regular basis that they just ignore him. Now that I think back on it, he was probably sighing because the PS Triple section is right next to the X-Box section and he was getting stuh-ressed that the games were touching. He left shortly after that so I was able to look at the vidya with no further disturbances.

I later decided to get a bite to eat at the Sbarros and holy shit, there was the lumberjack and the Snorlax feasting on Chick-Fil-A. They both wore baseball caps and you could definitely tell the past couple of years(or however old the most recent pictures of them were taken) haven't been kind to them. I have some unfortunate news that the Snorlax isn't as fat as she used to be(from the one picture we have). In fact, her legs were incredibly skinny. Probably even skinnier than Chris'. Her clothing looked like it hung from her loosely. She could just have the same oddly shaped body that Chris has. Either way, she didn't really look that healthy. Bob was very scruffy(probably can't shave because of his age) and shuffled around with a slight hunch. A little while later, Chris joined them before they all got up and left. Chris' underwear was bunched up over his pants and sticking out. Chris walked with his mother out, his arm around her and rubbing her back. I overheard him tell his mom, "I love you, mother." Uuuuuuh, yeeeeah. About 10-20 seconds later, Bob shuffled up behind them. And that was it. He continues to blow my mind. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 22:07, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
* Ho-Ho-Holy shiiiiiiiit...! I could understand Barb's thinness (that diet after getting sick awhile back must have been murder on her), but Chris actually kicking X-Box games while saying "kick da hex-box"? That just takes the cake! I wish I knew what was going through the storeowner's head when he saw that. Hopefully the same thing everyone else was: what the fuck?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 22:13, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
*That... That's just ridiculous. And here I thought Chris was beyond things a five year old would do. No pics, I assume? :( - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 1:55, 7 August 2010 (EST)
**Barb definitely has AIDS. -[[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 23:08, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
**This is still an eyewitness sighting of Chris, so we're going to have to update the [[August 2010]] article. Any information or sighting is helpful to us. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 23:09, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
*If he starts to frequent the store, look for the slightest excuse to get him banned. Anything that keeps Chris from buying more games is worth it. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 00:02, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
*ewww chris wants to do it with his mom. thats like barf central and not just because of the incest either --This post has been brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 08:54, 7 August 2010 (PDT). Thanks for reading!

== chris at faf again ==

Sighted chris at fridays after five. He was wearing grey shirt, girly fitting jeans, and his trucker vest. Spotted a pokewalker on each of his hips. No rocks or hoolahoops sighted, but the highlight was him doing a sort of dance waddle/dance where he would slowly turn in circles with both of his index fingers pointed in the air. Making sheepish eye contact with random people, and revealing a very forced looking smile. When i wandered past him while he was doing this on the side grass near the bandstand I could hear him muttering/singing "do a little dance, make a little love, do a little dance, make a little love".
:No pictures, I assume? Either way, this is still helpful to us. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 11:06, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
*care to tell us how you managed to observe this scene from canada? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 11:31, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
**Ouch. -- [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 14:46, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Cogs brings the smackdown. My suggestion is to treat this one as bogus until we get more confirmation. Also, sign your damn posts. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:58, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
I observed this with my own eyes and other sensory organs while, I did not observe this from canada as I am referring to fridays after five in c,va. Whether or not you choose to believe me is up to you. --hooplah
*Yeah, I think we all know this is bullshit. You could have tried harder, though. Also, I don't want to make two posts, so is there any real confirmation on the previous section's sighting? It seems a bit too descriptive to me, and a family outing doesn't seem like the Chandler family to me. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:37, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
**I smell a /cwc/fag --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 00:13, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
***1) Wut 2) You can sign your post using four tildes (~) so that you don't have to type all that shit out. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 07:01, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
*I was at FAF last week and stayed for most of it. I'm 95% sure Chris wasn't there. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 05:59, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
**Listen to this man. He's the one who spotted Chris on all those other occasions. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 09:59, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

== Was it just me... ==

Or was anyone else redirected to ads when they tried to access this adsite yesterday? I tried to get on but I couldn't. --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 16:52, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
:I didn't notice anything wrong. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 17:51, 8 August 2010 (PDT)

== Regarding the Relics of Fail items... ==
I posted this a month or so ago on Champthom's usertalk page since he was the one who originally made these pages, but I figured that it might be better off here. Right now, out of 26 different relics, a total of 10 of them have the suffix "of fail". I think that the 'of fail' tag on the end of many of the items is a bit stale. Not only does it make them all seem generic and without personality, but 'of fail' just seems kind of juvenile. I'd like to start a vote to change the majority of the names to give them more flair, so they stand out more. Talked about it in IRC a few nights ago, and the consensus seemed to agree. One of the names thrown around was to change "Plush Boobs of Fail" into something along the lines of "Plush Boobs of Repressed Sexuality." Give them names that indicate their use, descriptors that tell you about the item before you even read about it. "Pokewalker of Sloth" or "Pokewalker of Inactivity". Even if the 'of fail' tag is supposed to indicate that Chris created it himself, there's no reason for the Plush Boobs and Sailor Moon Poster to have it included. Let me know what you think. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 21:43, 14 August 2010 (PDT)
*I second this. This site isn't ED, and should separate itself where convenient. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:26, 14 August 2010 (PDT)
:I disagree. The suffix has been grandfathered into CWC lore, original or not. Perhaps it's no longer necessary to append it to every new object Chris has, but I see no reason for the previous "of fails" to change. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 14:31, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== PS3 Tracker ==
Since I'm now denigrated to normal user i guess i have to be normal i am sad.

But anyway, based off a topic I saw earlier. We do have some people who know Chris on da PS3 and can see what game is playing at what time. What we need is a tracker to keep track of how much time he has wasted. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:55, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:I wonder if we should add a ModNation tracker. I support the idea of a greater PS3 tracker as well.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:29, 18 August 2010 (PDT)
:Can anyone confirm that Chris bought the PlayStation <s>Plus</s> Live Gold subscription, or does he have enough sense not to buy a $50 annual service that gives discounts to crap he already owns?--[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 23:05, 18 August 2010 (PDT)

== THE CWCKI FORUM ==

So you can't get into PVCC but you're tired of getting yelled at for chatting on tlak pages? Well I have you a solution. http://cwckiforum.proboards.com is now here for you,a nd you cna talk amongst yourselves about the CWCki or weeaboo shit or anime or whatever and make your arts and have a place to show then and develop them before they get added to the CWCki itself, and all kinds of useful shit and stuff like that. So come join the cwcki forum, the only forum about the Cwcki! http://cwckiforum.proboards.com

Yeah I know the colors suck and it's not all there yet. AHM WORKIN ON IT!
[[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 13:22, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
:The color scheme is offensive to the eye. Was that intentional so discourage Chris from sticking his nose into it? --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 13:25, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

I'll take that excuse for my beign shitty with color layouts. But yeah, totally to throw off chris. That's it. [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 13:54, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

== Chris spotted on CWCki (probably) ==

http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:Contributions/G0dofThunderG0dofWar --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 13:47, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
*: Still waiting for a IP address confirmation... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:57, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

Most likely a troll, Chris isn't that smark with 1337 talk, and his changes are more ovbious, and clyde erased his changes immediately.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:44, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:Possi-Chris put a message about his user page not being public property, but a few edits made quick work of that. >:) --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 14:36, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

== I personally talked to Bob and Chris ==

Knowing that [[Bob]] and [[Chris]] would only answer if I called with a 434 area code, I got Caller ID Faker thanks to the magic of Android Marketplace. Anyways, posing as a white knight (or more correctly an anti-troll), Bob asked me if I could let you guys know that he's at the Burger King in Ruckersville daily from 9:30 to 10:30 AM, and that sometimes Chris is with him. I then called Chris on his cell phone and asked him when the next Sonichu will be released. He said "eventually."

Video coming in a minute. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 16:54, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

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:You should have grilled him on that "eventually" part, and told him that if he was serious about Sonichu's success, he would update it more regularly. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:25, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

:So Bob talks about having no axe to grind and tries to coax the trolls away from their computers. Sounds like he's quite taken with his internet persona. --[[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 18:02, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

== I will interview Chris tomorrow ==

What should I ask him? [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 17:33, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:Details regarding "trolls hacked my bank accounts!" --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 17:39, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:Grill him on that "eventually" part he said in the last call. Tell him that if he was serious about Sonichu, he wouldn't go months at a time without updating. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:39, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:Today's big news in the gaming world was the ps3 hack. Given Chris's attachment to the ps3, you could ask him if he's heard about it and what he thinks about it. --[[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 18:02, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

:: Definitely the information regarding his allegedly hacked back accounts. If you can disguise it as a different number, tell them your part of Best Buy's fraud investigation department, and ask for details concerning the incident. If Chris feel's he talking to someone who can actually fight back against trolls, he'll be willing to tell you everything. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:09, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:::How his parents reacted when they found out about the Game Place incident and what happened with the police. Also possibly ask him about his future (if there's any games he's looking forward to, etc) that could preoccupy him and keep him off the internet like Modnation Racers is currently. Did he agree to an interview with you already or are you hoping he'll answer again? --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 18:41, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:::*I'm hoping he'll answer again. He answered the first time, so I'm guessing he'll answer a second time. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 19:38, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:If you get Bob again, ask him about his career with Western Electric and his inventions. Someone on his talk page on here thinks he assisted in the installation of the first automated telephone switchboard. If he did, that's more impressive than his plastic molding controls that Chris loves to talk about. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 21:37, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
::I actually suggested that due to the time Bob worked for WE being around the same time of the automatic switchboard (due to his mention of an automatic device related to telephony before, with it possibly being WE's first truly electronic switchboard, the 1ESS), and considering the only other major test was in Illinois in 1960 by Bell Labs, it might have been WE's first major installation, and Chris's mind probably thought plastic molding controls were more exciting than the switchboard and simply forgot Bob ever mentioned it. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 22:28, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

As a dedicated member of the TRUE and Loyal Fanbase, ask him where you can read the Sonichu comics, of course. Also, when will he finish the Videobooks of the last issues. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 00:31, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

:* This is a good point. Some kind of subtle mention that the only place on the internet hosting the Sonichu website are the dirty trolls (maybe with a mention that you hate going to the site because of the lies they spread), just to make certain he knows the comics aren't anywhere else on the internet. --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 07:22, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

A smarter man may be able to put 2 and 2 together, and think you're a troll for knowing about the bank stuff, since he hasn't released anything about it. (beat panel) Remember, we don't know for sure what happened with those accounts, so don't feed him a line about trolls doing it, stay vague like just "Your father mentioned something about a bank account; what actually happened?", and let him answer for himself. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 01:54, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

I want to ask him something, but all I can think of doesn't relate to finding out more info about him, just his opinion on stuff he likes (like the new Gen 5 [[Pokemon|pokeymanz]]). Is that OK? (Yes, I know I fail so hard.) --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 07:53, 20 August 2010 (PDT)
*That's fine. I'm actually going to ask him a few questions like that myself. I'm also going to ask him what he likes to do when he's not on the internet, which may help with trolling efforts. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 08:49, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

I've got ten questions so far:
*What happened with the bank account hacking?
*What future video games are you looking forward to?
*What did your father invent and do when he worked with Western Electric, and did he really assist in the installation of the first automated telephone switchboard?
*Are there any places other than the CWCki that host your comics?
*What are your thoughts on Pokemon Black and White?
*What are your favorite things to do when you're not on the internet?
*What's an average day for Chris?
*In Sonichu 3, there's a character named "[[Merried Seinor Comic]]. What does his name mean? (I had trouble thinking of another question)
*Is there more than just an intake survey in your [[Autism papers]]?
*If you were really serious about Sonichu, wouldn't you update more frequently?
[[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 09:47, 20 August 2010 (PDT)
:Those will work just fine. Make sure you save all the hardest questions for last, otherwise he will just shut down. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 10:11, 20 August 2010 (PDT)
::Perhaps ask how his sweetheart search is going? Has he found anyone (not likely)? Or does he have his sights on some poor unlucky women? -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 10:22, 20 August 2010 (PDT)
::*Added that to the list. I'll be interviewing him in a few hours. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 10:25, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

Hm, the only thing I'd change is "hacking", that's still feeding him a line of 'somebody else is involed,' and save it for when he becomes more open and likeley to tell (say on accident) the truth; "I heard mentioned that there was an overdraft on your credit card; did you spend too much, or what happened?" --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:40, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

Do you have any idea when you will be able to post a recording? --[[User:Dalkalopagus|Dalkalopagus]] 14:05, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

Crud, I wish I would've been able to find this earlier. I was going to suggest one that I'm sure is on everyone's minds, but I might as well post here:

Did Chris (or is he still planning to) go to his HS reunion? And if yes, did he ever get the chance to dance with Tiffany Gowen? --This post brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 14:49, 20 August 2010 (PDT). Thanks for reading!

*No luck yet. I called him several times, each time using a 434 area code. His phone is on, but it's either silent or he doesn't have it with him. Or he doesn't want to answer. I will try again in an hour. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 14:58, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

If you're going to pose as a TRUE and HONEST fan, you should ask lots of questions about the comic and maybe then a couple about CWC himself, when he's off guard. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 09:55, 21 August 2010 (PDT)
:This is what I said. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 10:19, 21 August 2010 (PDT)

== Magi-chan spin off comic ==

It's too bad that Chris has been quiet lately, so I've starting up a little project to see if I can get some life out of him. Since he's not updating the comic anymore I've "claimed ownership" and have started putting up pages on a deviant art account http://thefatestpat.deviantart.com/

Chris actually lives pretty close to me. I know he likes to call people out, and if he does so with me I can actually go meet him. Spread the word about the new "owner" of Sonichu and we can get some new trolling fun going.
:Since you live near him, you should make a flier advertising your spin-off and slip it in his mailbox. Make sure it gives you credit for his characters. Chris'll flip his shit if he thinks someone's begun an ad campaign for a FALSE and DISHONEST version of his characters. Bonus points if it manages to convince him that you've achieved IRL fame with the project. You could write it as an advertisement for a fan club for your spin-off or something. Like you have this huge fan base that are making fliers and trying to increase your fame for you. [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 14:50, 21 August 2010 (PDT)

:: If you do that, be sure to specify that it is the 'Official' spin off. After all, Chris has demonstrated it's possible to 'claim' other peoples characters if they lie (like Chris is currently doing by claiming to work on the comic) and make them your official character. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 16:32, 21 August 2010 (PDT)

CWCki:General

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{{Community Portal}}

For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

==Hey people, how about those Mumble chats?==
I've started a "10 minutes at a time" project to finish transcribing mumbles. Transcribing sucks, but 10 minutes in one go can relieve the strain on the people transcribing. Especially since if we get 10 or more people on board, transcribing a Mumble can be finished in the space of a couple of days instead of one person over the course of 10 days. I have a couple of people on board, but it would be nice to have several more. For the specifics of how it works, go to my [[User:Fuckingstupid|user page]]. [[Mumble_7|The Mumble chat we are currently tackling is #7]]. It would be nice if anyone who has a couple spare hours a day to transcribe a simple 10 minutes. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Chris and Love Suggestion? ==
I was thinking we should add a new article on the "Chris and...." series. Perhaps "Romance"? Maybe give an insight on his idea of being romantic. I feel we could write good article on this. There's a shit load of cheesy awkward sayings. Also,an observation on his behavior on dates with trolls could be good. Just a thought. --[[User:Bealtespip122]]

* Not a bad idea. Because Chris has blurred the line between romance and sex. With him, it's one in the same. Would be interesting to poke at I think. [[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]]

Aye, "romance" to him is just a means to an end. He sees act of dating as not about two people enjoying each others company, it's just to test compatibility so they can eventually fuck. Anything beyond that is just a ruse to keep the woman interested. I can't imagine him having a sincere desire to have an emotional connection with another human being, he just wants to be coddled and pleased. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 05:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

*[[Love quest]] more or less seems to cover this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

*I'd say the Love Quest really covers his attempts at "reelin' in da ladiez" and being thwarted by outside forces. Not so much as a personal insight into what Chris thinks is romantic or sweet. --[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 16:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
** Rather than being covered by the love quest page, it's just mentioned; same treatment for [[Chris and sex]]. The events of the Megan, Ivy, and Wallflower sagas tell a lot about his view of romance. Can't forget the essential McDonald's date either. Without some good writing, though, it might not make the best article. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 17:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
*well he wanted to make " Date Education" apart from sex education, i think a chris and romance, detailing what he thinks is romance would be a nice add to the cwcki.---[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

== Fridays After Five yet again ==

This probably isn't a big surprise to anyone, but Chris was also at Fridays After Five on July 16th. No pictures, I'm afraid. He was wearing a bright orange sleeveless shirt with what looked like a beer logo on the back and holding a Budweiser aluminum bottle, a little mini fan made to look like an iPod, and a hula hoop for some reason. Most importantly he had a sort of basic attraction sign with him, nothing elaborate or directly sexual but it said something like "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone" or something similar to that and with more smaller text under that I couldn't make out. He was sitting on the back grass part and left a few minutes before the music was over. I would have loved to catch Chris's attempts at using the hula hoop, I bet that was funny as hell. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 03:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
*Good work. Mind getting some pictures next time? [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 03:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
**If I get to Charlottesville again when it's going on, I'll see what I can do. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 03:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::*No pressure. It's your prerogative. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 03:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* If you're some tard trying to get attention, fuck you, die. I have to put that disclaimer in nowadays, nothing personal. If you're being TRUE and HONEST, thank you so much for reporting this, because Chris holding something that says "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone" would be the most unintentionally hilarious thing that has ever happened. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Oh no, this is very real. I have another person confirming the hula hoop thing. The man zone thing is what confirms it. Yeah. It's pretty damn retarded. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Holy shit, I'm just trying to help out during a dry spell and I'm even willing to try going back and get pics, and your reaction is "fuck you, die"? May I also point out that this very site has a giant banner across the top of the main page making in very clear that they want all sightings reported? What on earth is wrong with you? [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 14:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Well, I say thanks for your assistance. Clyde confirms what is obviously good intel. Pics are nice, but hey. Nice find anyhow. Keep up the great work. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Since we have confirmation, I guess I'll add this as a sighting to the Fridays after five article. Thanks a bunch Camelopardalis.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 16:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Thanks, guys. To answer some of the "What, no pictures?!" sentiment, I went there to listen to some music and didn't really expect to see anything photo-worthy. These are local bands that usually play in bars and so on. Lots of people didn't bring cameras, especially as the band was a country-bluegrass bunch, not exactly Lady Gaga. I'll definitely have a camera along next time, just in case. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 01:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Oh, and I think I can explain the hula hoop. If you look at the pictures of Chris at FAF on July 9, the wide shots taken from inside the seats area, not the close-up one on CWCki, there's two young girls and apparently their moms using hula hoops right behind him. I know the general opinion is Chris isn't a pedo, but all it takes is some basic logic that he observed little girls hula hooping at FAF and then brought one the next week himself. Not that creepy behavior is anything new for Chris but following up the kid-photographing incident with this? [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 02:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== "fan works purge", including TV Tropes even here ==

[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:Log/delete Partying like it's 1937] makes me kinda sad. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
* Meh. That Tropes "article" was one of the biggest crimes in CWCki history, and the Charles Wilbur Crushman thing was the first online item I've come across that was such a steaming pile of shit I could actually smell it. The rest I have no comment on, but there was so much selfsucking garbage on here that it justified a deletion policy, and it probably justified said deletion as well. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::Crimes against the people, I guess. Goodbye [http://www.youropinionsarewrong.com/images/random/stalin-airbrush.jpg Comrade T.V. Tropes], hardly we knew ye. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:::The whole fan works section was a mistake in the first place. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::::Counter-revolutionary nest that sabotages and opposes the creative work of the people. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::::: shut up, you face [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The fan-works thing started out as a few fun little comics and stories that where just basically bored people fucking around and satirizing Chris' shit. Then people started taking it seriously, or trying to become e-famous, or just generally being self important and retarded. The good "fan-works" can be archived and stored elsewhere, because unless it's specifically relevant to Chris or a Chris event it really doesn't belong here.

More importantly, most of the fan-works sucked metric ass, and it was bringing in a massive collection of morons that where really starting to fag up the place. Personally, I think the "fan-works purge" is the best thing to happen to the CWCki in a long time.

: I know I'm late to comment on this, but good grief, am I glad some of the stupid things I did were deleted. Was the whole purpose of the fan works section to make any contributors to realise they suck? =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 03:02, 6 August 2010 (PDT)

== this community portal split idea was retarded ==
a very good post by clydec age 9 [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
*WARNED YOU ABOUT THE SPLIT, BRO.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Look what I did ==

I made a couple of userboxes. Use them, disdain/ridicule them, or improve them as you see fit.

—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] ([[User talk:SeventhBase|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SeventhBase|contribs]]) 
:Nice work - just enhancing your template links and signing your posts. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:: no these are stupid [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 04:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::More userboxes are not really what we need right now. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== new idea for speculation ==
speculation runs high. split that up into multiple pages or something [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 04:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Chris and relationships==
Just a short idea: There are several categories regarding Chris relationships, aquaintances (for example [[Galpals|Galpals]] "Males Chris doesn't hate") orjust general people he interacted with. I think it might be beneficial to have a kind of overview regarding what people he interacted with in what timeline. Could also be linked under "friends" etc. in order to illustrate the extent of his growing social isolation and successive personal development. -- [[User:Miela|Miela]] 13:22, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== July 23 Fridays After Five ==

I was at FAF this weekend, didn't stay for the whole thing, I was gone by about 7:30 or so but as far as I could tell Chris wasn't there. Actually the whole thing was pretty dead compared to the usual turnout, especially the lawn area which was almost empty. Heat index was something like 110, so I can't blame him for staying home, unless the reason was that Chris feels he's too heavily monitored at FAF these days. I did remember one more thing about Chris at FAF last week though, he had on dark wraparound sunglasses on... UNDER his regular eyeglasses. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 22:25, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
:I guess that confirms his shades aren't prescription. Makes sense, he chose the cheapest frames available for his glasses, why would be spend the money for something expensive like prescription sunglasses? --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 22:28, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

==Modnation Levels==
I don't suppose anybody's actually played any of Chris's levels or anything?

It's completely understandable if nobody wants to play them, given that it's Chris, I'm sure they're all garbage, but currently all we have on his modnation efforts are a bunch of tiny screencaps I took from the website. We covered all of his LBP nonsense in detail, it's kinda weird that nobody's even tried to look into his tracks.

Any intrepid PS3 owners wanna step up?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:30, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if anyone else has suggested it already, but I've got a feeling that one of the best ways to reach (and troll) Chris right now is through ModNation, considering he probably spends most of his time there. Just track him down, join him in a game, "befriend" and chat with him... then beat him silly on his own levels and expect lulz. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 06:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure everyone would appreciate good let's-play videos of the ModNation levels (along the lines of the LBP owl level preview video). Does ModNation allow recording/playing back online matches? Dramatic replays and dreadful overanalysis of Chris's online games would be terribly appreciated. I mean, I don't watch motorsports, but microsecond-by-microsecond commentary on clumsy moves just might be worth watching. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:35, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

==Just a question==
Not sure it this is the right place to ask or talk about a question or if this is old news but forgive me if I am wrong about anything, but may I ask whats the deal with the Cwiki and /cwc/ fighting and every thing can't find anything about whats going?--[[User:Kota88|Kota88]] 15:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
*As far as I'm aware, there isn't anything. If you're talking about Delebonte being a fag and making a shittalk template, that doesn't have to do with /cwc/. /cwc/, as I see it, is a place where people go to talk about Chris. It's the watercooler where everyone goes to provide their own theories without threat of retribution. Cwcki is a place where facts are documented and presented. They don't really conflict, and /cwc/ doesn't really seem to be vandalising this site or anything, so I guess you just have bad information. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:49, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Ok thanks, what I got was something about something about legi0n or who ever being mad about furrys being on the cwciki and users being blacklisted by someone but idk, I can't look a the thread right now because when ever i got to the /cwc/ I keep getting the message saying "Website Disabled". but anyway thanks for clearing this up a little for me.--[[User:Kota88|Kota88]] 16:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
*I can probably explain that one. People on /cwc/ follow most of the same "rules" as other imageboards (e.g. 4chan, 7chan, etc.) and as such tend to ban furries and stuff because they spam their boards with fetish porn. On the CWCki, this isn't an issue, and so we have a more lax set of rules. For people who don't understand the difference between the two systems, they might be led to believe that we are a furry site, when in fact we are just tolerant. I wouldn't worry about it too much. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

==Old News (Possible Bulbapedia incident)==

Hey, newfag here. On Bulbapedia, there was apparently a small battle over whether or not to make Sonichu as a page, with Chris (obviously) being the sole supporter. A user posted quotes from their supposed discussion here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/blog.php?b=15577 Considering said user had no idea who Sonichu was at the time of this discussion, or shortly before I told him a few hours earlier, I'm betting money it actually happened. Thing is, this happened in August of last year, so where should it go? - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 12:47, 30 July 2010 (EST)
:(Are you Brazilian/Portuguese by any chance?) I can't really confirm it's him. The use of "OVER 9" (like that stupid meme), incorrect use of "Your" (he's stupid, but that's not one of his quirks), NOT censoring the F-word with asterisks, as well as calling you a troll outright (though I wouldn't put it past him, frankly) and declaring the "reality" of Sonichu out in the open (he does probably believe this, but he would only insinuate it)... These are rather consistent with a copycat troll than the TRUE and HONEST Chris-chan. But if we DO get a confirmation, it should go in its own article, along with a Da Update showing that new information was unearthed.--[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 05:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
*No, I was born in the Philippines, grew up in America. But anyway, I doubt we'll get any sort of confirmation, Chris has most likely long forgotten about this. I suppose I can ask if any of the conversation is left, but I don't think it'll prove anything. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 1:10, 30 July 2010 (EST)
**Well, this is the only other edit he made. "I would like you to know that Sonichu is a REAL Pokemon. I know, because I have over 9 years of canon from him and his world, and have been in talks with Nintendo to put Sonichu and Rosechu into animal crossing, and have been in talk with Sega to make a Sonichu video game. Please consider this. Thank you. I will dare to keep my dreams alive." Hmm. Yeah, from the looks of it, it appears it was nothing more than a poser. I doubt even Chris would say something like that. Of course, I'm a newfag so make of it what you will. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 1:55, 30 July 2010 (EST)
**Chris wouldn't mention the talks with Nintendo after finding out the people behind that were trolls. Too much wounded pride.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 11:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
***Well, the talks with Nintendo and Sega were mentioned at 02:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC), and all the discussion in the blog started about two minutes afterward, with Chris replying at 02:58. There's also a little bit of discussion above the Sonichu topic on his user talk page, but he didn't respond to that. Here's the link to his User Talk page: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:CWCSonichuChandler, and here's the link to the other bit Chris supposedly said.: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Evkl#Re:_Fake_Pages - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 10:56, 30 July 2010 (EST)

== Why are some people so eager to ban Chris everywhere on the Internet? ==

Including the people here on CWCki? Where's the fun in Chris crashing into PS3 slumber again? Damn, I wish Chris was allowed back to deviantART :( --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

More to the point, is there an official policy regarding stupid ass bullshit like "[[CWCipedia]] states that Chris may or may not create another account. Be sure to tip off the dA admins if he will return."? I think there should be.
*Overenthusiastic nobodies eager to 'stick it' to Chris and be the #1 trolin genious lolololo. It's quite irritating, and seems as if they have zero forethought. And I can only see this problem getting worse as time goes on and Chris becomes more mainstream. Feels bad man. - [[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 14:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Chris is known to act out a lot, and on deviantART, acting out is considered trolling and it will get you banned. Also the fact that nobody wants him around. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 15:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The same reason he gets banned from places IRL. --[[User:MoarDesu|MoarDesu]] 02:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

More times often than not, Chris does a good job of getting himself banned, better than the trolls at times: for example, his continued uploading of NSFW material to [[Flipnote Hatena]] damned him more than trolls could. The problem with Chris is his un realistic expectation that he is exempt to normal rules, an expectation that will continue to bite him in the ass. [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 11:47, 3 August 2010 (PDT)

== Chris's handwriting ==

Does anyone have a slightly recent example of Chris's handwriting? I just read a book on analyzing handwriting for character traits, and I want to see what I can pick out of him. Don't worry, I'll write the summary on my user page. I just need a sample. --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 16:41, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:[[Chris's Letter to Blanca|2008 should be recent enough]] --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 16:48, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:: OK thank you. --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 17:32, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:::The [[List of Flipnotes|Flipnotes]] should be the most recent example. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 18:26, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
::::The problem with those though is that they don't show pressure of his writing.

Anyways, I finished. [[User:GandWuser|Read it on my Userpage.]] --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 18:34, 2 August 2010 (PDT)

== Scripts for Sonichu TAS ==

Would it be fine to add scripts from the Sonichu Animated Series to the CWCiki? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 11:40, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
:The page is locked, so you'd have to ask an admin. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 11:46, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
::Who are the admins on the CWCiki? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 19:18, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
:::That would be [[User:cogsdev|these]] [[User:Clydec|fine]] [[User:Champthom|people]]. I suggest putting the scripts on your namespace until they're ready for release. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 22:27, 3 August 2010 (PDT)

== Spotted Chris at Game Stop ==

Another sighting! I went over to the GameStop at the mall and lo and behold, Christian Weston Chandler in all his glory. He was wearing jeans and plain gray shirt that was too small for him. I say too small because his chest was definitely accentuated and they came up a wee bit too shirt for a T-Shirt to be at. He was checking out the PS Triple section the majority of the time. I happened to look over my shoulder at one point and there he was, bent over with his tighty whities pulled up too far on his body, his shirt coming up rather far over his back. What he was bent over for, I have no idea. I turned back to what I was looking at and he was sighing periodically over who knows what. Then I heard, "kick da hex-box...kick da hex-box...kick da hex-box..." I had to look. He was kicking a row of X-Box games while saying it. It wasn't hard enough to knock things over, but still...what the fuuuuuck? The employee gave him a glance but didn't say anything. I'm assuming he does this on a regular basis that they just ignore him. Now that I think back on it, he was probably sighing because the PS Triple section is right next to the X-Box section and he was getting stuh-ressed that the games were touching. He left shortly after that so I was able to look at the vidya with no further disturbances.

I later decided to get a bite to eat at the Sbarros and holy shit, there was the lumberjack and the Snorlax feasting on Chick-Fil-A. They both wore baseball caps and you could definitely tell the past couple of years(or however old the most recent pictures of them were taken) haven't been kind to them. I have some unfortunate news that the Snorlax isn't as fat as she used to be(from the one picture we have). In fact, her legs were incredibly skinny. Probably even skinnier than Chris'. Her clothing looked like it hung from her loosely. She could just have the same oddly shaped body that Chris has. Either way, she didn't really look that healthy. Bob was very scruffy(probably can't shave because of his age) and shuffled around with a slight hunch. A little while later, Chris joined them before they all got up and left. Chris' underwear was bunched up over his pants and sticking out. Chris walked with his mother out, his arm around her and rubbing her back. I overheard him tell his mom, "I love you, mother." Uuuuuuh, yeeeeah. About 10-20 seconds later, Bob shuffled up behind them. And that was it. He continues to blow my mind. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 22:07, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
* Ho-Ho-Holy shiiiiiiiit...! I could understand Barb's thinness (that diet after getting sick awhile back must have been murder on her), but Chris actually kicking X-Box games while saying "kick da hex-box"? That just takes the cake! I wish I knew what was going through the storeowner's head when he saw that. Hopefully the same thing everyone else was: what the fuck?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 22:13, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
*That... That's just ridiculous. And here I thought Chris was beyond things a five year old would do. No pics, I assume? :( - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 1:55, 7 August 2010 (EST)
**Barb definitely has AIDS. -[[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 23:08, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
**This is still an eyewitness sighting of Chris, so we're going to have to update the [[August 2010]] article. Any information or sighting is helpful to us. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 23:09, 6 August 2010 (PDT)
*If he starts to frequent the store, look for the slightest excuse to get him banned. Anything that keeps Chris from buying more games is worth it. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 00:02, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
*ewww chris wants to do it with his mom. thats like barf central and not just because of the incest either --This post has been brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 08:54, 7 August 2010 (PDT). Thanks for reading!

== chris at faf again ==

Sighted chris at fridays after five. He was wearing grey shirt, girly fitting jeans, and his trucker vest. Spotted a pokewalker on each of his hips. No rocks or hoolahoops sighted, but the highlight was him doing a sort of dance waddle/dance where he would slowly turn in circles with both of his index fingers pointed in the air. Making sheepish eye contact with random people, and revealing a very forced looking smile. When i wandered past him while he was doing this on the side grass near the bandstand I could hear him muttering/singing "do a little dance, make a little love, do a little dance, make a little love".
:No pictures, I assume? Either way, this is still helpful to us. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 11:06, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
*care to tell us how you managed to observe this scene from canada? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 11:31, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
**Ouch. -- [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 14:46, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Cogs brings the smackdown. My suggestion is to treat this one as bogus until we get more confirmation. Also, sign your damn posts. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:58, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
I observed this with my own eyes and other sensory organs while, I did not observe this from canada as I am referring to fridays after five in c,va. Whether or not you choose to believe me is up to you. --hooplah
*Yeah, I think we all know this is bullshit. You could have tried harder, though. Also, I don't want to make two posts, so is there any real confirmation on the previous section's sighting? It seems a bit too descriptive to me, and a family outing doesn't seem like the Chandler family to me. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:37, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
**I smell a /cwc/fag --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 00:13, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
***1) Wut 2) You can sign your post using four tildes (~) so that you don't have to type all that shit out. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 07:01, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
*I was at FAF last week and stayed for most of it. I'm 95% sure Chris wasn't there. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 05:59, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
**Listen to this man. He's the one who spotted Chris on all those other occasions. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 09:59, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

== Was it just me... ==

Or was anyone else redirected to ads when they tried to access this adsite yesterday? I tried to get on but I couldn't. --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 16:52, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
:I didn't notice anything wrong. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 17:51, 8 August 2010 (PDT)

== Regarding the Relics of Fail items... ==
I posted this a month or so ago on Champthom's usertalk page since he was the one who originally made these pages, but I figured that it might be better off here. Right now, out of 26 different relics, a total of 10 of them have the suffix "of fail". I think that the 'of fail' tag on the end of many of the items is a bit stale. Not only does it make them all seem generic and without personality, but 'of fail' just seems kind of juvenile. I'd like to start a vote to change the majority of the names to give them more flair, so they stand out more. Talked about it in IRC a few nights ago, and the consensus seemed to agree. One of the names thrown around was to change "Plush Boobs of Fail" into something along the lines of "Plush Boobs of Repressed Sexuality." Give them names that indicate their use, descriptors that tell you about the item before you even read about it. "Pokewalker of Sloth" or "Pokewalker of Inactivity". Even if the 'of fail' tag is supposed to indicate that Chris created it himself, there's no reason for the Plush Boobs and Sailor Moon Poster to have it included. Let me know what you think. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 21:43, 14 August 2010 (PDT)
*I second this. This site isn't ED, and should separate itself where convenient. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:26, 14 August 2010 (PDT)
:I disagree. The suffix has been grandfathered into CWC lore, original or not. Perhaps it's no longer necessary to append it to every new object Chris has, but I see no reason for the previous "of fails" to change. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 14:31, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== PS3 Tracker ==
Since I'm now denigrated to normal user i guess i have to be normal i am sad.

But anyway, based off a topic I saw earlier. We do have some people who know Chris on da PS3 and can see what game is playing at what time. What we need is a tracker to keep track of how much time he has wasted. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:55, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:I wonder if we should add a ModNation tracker. I support the idea of a greater PS3 tracker as well.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:29, 18 August 2010 (PDT)
:Can anyone confirm that Chris bought the PlayStation <s>Plus</s> Live Gold subscription, or does he have enough sense not to buy a $50 annual service that gives discounts to crap he already owns?--[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 23:05, 18 August 2010 (PDT)

== THE CWCKI FORUM ==

So you can't get into PVCC but you're tired of getting yelled at for chatting on tlak pages? Well I have you a solution. http://cwckiforum.proboards.com is now here for you,a nd you cna talk amongst yourselves about the CWCki or weeaboo shit or anime or whatever and make your arts and have a place to show then and develop them before they get added to the CWCki itself, and all kinds of useful shit and stuff like that. So come join the cwcki forum, the only forum about the Cwcki! http://cwckiforum.proboards.com

Yeah I know the colors suck and it's not all there yet. AHM WORKIN ON IT!
[[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 13:22, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
:The color scheme is offensive to the eye. Was that intentional so discourage Chris from sticking his nose into it? --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 13:25, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

I'll take that excuse for my beign shitty with color layouts. But yeah, totally to throw off chris. That's it. [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 13:54, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

== Chris spotted on CWCki (probably) ==

http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:Contributions/G0dofThunderG0dofWar --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 13:47, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
*: Still waiting for a IP address confirmation... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:57, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

Most likely a troll, Chris isn't that smark with 1337 talk, and his changes are more ovbious, and clyde erased his changes immediately.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:44, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

== I personally talked to Bob and Chris ==

Knowing that [[Bob]] and [[Chris]] would only answer if I called with a 434 area code, I got Caller ID Faker thanks to the magic of Android Marketplace. Anyways, posing as a white knight (or more correctly an anti-troll), Bob asked me if I could let you guys know that he's at the Burger King in Ruckersville daily from 9:30 to 10:30 AM, and that sometimes Chris is with him. I then called Chris on his cell phone and asked him when the next Sonichu will be released. He said "eventually."

Video coming in a minute. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 16:54, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

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:You should have grilled him on that "eventually" part, and told him that if he was serious about Sonichu's success, he would update it more regularly. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:25, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

:So Bob talks about having no axe to grind and tries to coax the trolls away from their computers. Sounds like he's quite taken with his internet persona. --[[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 18:02, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

== I will interview Chris tomorrow ==

What should I ask him? [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 17:33, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:Details regarding "trolls hacked my bank accounts!" --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 17:39, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:Grill him on that "eventually" part he said in the last call. Tell him that if he was serious about Sonichu, he wouldn't go months at a time without updating. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:39, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:Today's big news in the gaming world was the ps3 hack. Given Chris's attachment to the ps3, you could ask him if he's heard about it and what he thinks about it. --[[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 18:02, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

:: Definitely the information regarding his allegedly hacked back accounts. If you can disguise it as a different number, tell them your part of Best Buy's fraud investigation department, and ask for details concerning the incident. If Chris feel's he talking to someone who can actually fight back against trolls, he'll be willing to tell you everything. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:09, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:::How his parents reacted when they found out about the Game Place incident and what happened with the police. Also possibly ask him about his future (if there's any games he's looking forward to, etc) that could preoccupy him and keep him off the internet like Modnation Racers is currently. Did he agree to an interview with you already or are you hoping he'll answer again? --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 18:41, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:::*I'm hoping he'll answer again. He answered the first time, so I'm guessing he'll answer a second time. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 19:38, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
:If you get Bob again, ask him about his career with Western Electric and his inventions. Someone on his talk page on here thinks he assisted in the installation of the first automated telephone switchboard. If he did, that's more impressive than his plastic molding controls that Chris loves to talk about. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 21:37, 19 August 2010 (PDT)
::I actually suggested that due to the time Bob worked for WE being around the same time of the automatic switchboard (due to his mention of an automatic device related to telephony before, with it possibly being WE's first truly electronic switchboard, the 1ESS), and considering the only other major test was in Illinois in 1960 by Bell Labs, it might have been WE's first major installation, and Chris's mind probably thought plastic molding controls were more exciting than the switchboard and simply forgot Bob ever mentioned it. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 22:28, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

As a dedicated member of the TRUE and Loyal Fanbase, ask him where you can read the Sonichu comics, of course. Also, when will he finish the Videobooks of the last issues. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 00:31, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

:* This is a good point. Some kind of subtle mention that the only place on the internet hosting the Sonichu website are the dirty trolls (maybe with a mention that you hate going to the site because of the lies they spread), just to make certain he knows the comics aren't anywhere else on the internet. --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 07:22, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

A smarter man may be able to put 2 and 2 together, and think you're a troll for knowing about the bank stuff, since he hasn't released anything about it. (beat panel) Remember, we don't know for sure what happened with those accounts, so don't feed him a line about trolls doing it, stay vague like just "Your father mentioned something about a bank account; what actually happened?", and let him answer for himself. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 01:54, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

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2010-08-17T09:17:52Z

Borednewb:

==Unified theory of Chris==

Fistly, I must say I immensely enjoyed your analyses of Chris - thank you for posting them, they've given me a lot more to think about in my own analysis of him.

However, I'm a bit wary of your description of him as a "socially inept wanna-be-manipulative sociopath autistic".

I am admittedly no expert, but from what I understand:

* lack of empathy has been (not intrinsically) linked to Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). (''There is some debate about that, though - I just found [http://www.grasp.org/media/empathy.pdf an article] written by a person with Asperger's about the "myth" of lack of empathy in autistics; wherein the author proposes there is not a general lack of empathy, but rather an inability to react appropriately, due to the inability to correctly interpret and react to social cues.'')

* Manipulative behaviour has also been noted in ASD.

* Even by your own definition, autistic = socially inept

Now, I'm not saying Chris is allowed to use this as justification for his, admittedly, more self-serving behaviours, and I do realise that he's nearly thirty years old and should take more responsibility for his actions (and should have "memorised" more socially acceptable responses by now), but I think all these labels of him as "sociopathic" and "narcissistic" (as I've seen elsewhere on the site), are character flaws that are more in-tie with his autism than anything else and can be rather...harsh, taken out of context.

I also feel he is largely a victim of circumstance - from his parents refusing to "give him over" to the mental health care he needed (needs?) back in 4th grade, to his current lack of normal social interaction, he's never learnt how to respond appropriately by observing other people or by being taught and assisted by a professional (who would know how to work with someone with ASD). I believe his parents' actions and misconceptions (i.e. about mental health care) are largely the cause for Chris's current level of ineptitude. I also somehow doubt the actions of all the trolls are improving his construct for what "normal" social interaction is, but that's another matter.

All in all, I don't believe Chris is exempt from the expectation to behave more appropriately socially merely because he is autistic, but I think the impairments he has due to his autism should be given at least some further consideration.

Not making sense, as usual, I guess (sorry), [[User:Sussuro|Sussuro]] 08:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

==My thoughts==
No, I think you're making a fair bit of sense actually, and I enjoyed reading it. I do however disagree that the trolling doesn't help Chris; basically any time Chris puts his foot on anything (Youtube, Flipnote Hatena, anything), he is immediately beset by trolls. They make his existence painful for him to endure, because they know exactly what to do to press his buttons. The trolls force Chris into the real world, which he is doing, which is:

a) A good thing for Chris, ultimately, since people learn only from mistakes and he can't make them if he's a shut-in.
b) A bad thing for the citizens of Charlottesville, since Chris is a cancer that harasses women and aggravates men.

I am of the opinion that keeping Chris flailing around on the internet is a community service. It's basically a prison; he can't hurt anyone there, and the trolls he scream at find his antics only amusing, rather than hurtful. I actually do believe Chris causes a great deal of negativity in his community; his actions at the recent Friday After Five show this (especially with the throwing rocks around). He is mentally ill. He should be removed from his community and be placed into the care of the state. When his parents die, unless there is a massive sea-change in the way he thinks and acts (unlikely), this will almost certainly happen.

Indirectly the trolling helps Chris, but unless they can keep him focused on the Internet, it harms the broader community. I don't want another Wallflower/Megan, although I accept that almost nothing anyone can do can stop it, only minimise the chance of it happening. Considering we've only had one Wallflower to our knowledge since the trolls began trolling, I'd say they're doing a fairly good job so far, but recent events such as his drinking, bar hopping, concert attending (etc) mean that Chris will probably 'strike' again. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== My Two Cents ==

Chris's autism makes it difficult for him to pick up on social cues. Chris's narcissism makes him think he's better than everybody else. But I think it's the combination of those two aspects that's responsible for his more insane or disturbing antics.

We've all been at points in our lives where we want something, but lack the ability to obtain it. The only way to get whatever it is is to learn how other people did it and follow their lead. A kid going to a new school will learn how to fit in by watching the way the other kids act. If you drag a socially awkward person out clubbing with you a few times, he'll watch other people and figure how they get hot girls to grind them. When we realize our current skills are inadequate, we figure out the proper behavior and imitate it.

Chris's autism makes it difficult for him to pick up on social cues, but I think his narcissism might prevent him from even trying. He goes out to places like Fridays after Five or whatever his preferred bar is, sees people acting and reacting in ways he doesn't quite understand, and says "Fuck it, my idea is better anyways because I'm a genius." Then begins attraction signs, the red string of love, a want woman bra, pelting people with fucking rocks or whatever. His autism makes it hard for him to understand how other people do it, and his egotism makes him convinced he doesn't ''need'' to.

I'm not saying Ronichu is wrong, because Ronichu and I love each other and one day we're gonna to run away together and live in a house by the sea, but getting Chris outside might not good for Chris at all. Chris was out and about for years before ED found out about him and he became shackled to the internet, and all that resulted in was huge loads of attraction signs and other equally unique ways of trying to get girls. Getting Chris off the internet doesn't "help" him, it just changes his location.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== This feels like a psychology forum ==

Well, I don't expect Chris to change much anymore, mostly due to his own arrogance, as Beat said, and also because he's just a lost cause all round if you ask me; and I agree that I'd rather read about him making an ass of himself on the internet than him going outside to chase and/or throw rocks at helpless girls - but all I'm saying is that perhaps the trolling could on some level be normalising more reprehensible behaviour for him - if he is even aware of enough to notice something other than that it briefly caused him some pain.

Although a lot of his behaviour is already rather reprehensible, maybe reinforcing that trolling is something people typically do can't particularly be considered "helping". I doubt he'll employ any behaviours he might've learnt from any of his trolls, as that would involve some initiative on his part and doesn't really result in some "reward" for him, and also because he evidently understands that trolling is "bad" (but only when it's against him, one could argue).

But yeah, letting Chris run around wild in the streets of Charlottesville at this point could probably scar several innocent bystanders for life, so him staying locked in his filthy lair is probably the best outcome until he is taken away and institutionalised - especially since alcohol is now a factor. (I hadn't considered that point before, to be honest)

My posts are just my opinion, however, I haven't been following Chris for all that long and I'm only a second year Psych student, so I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about anyways...sorry.

Also, as long as the trolls don't go around forcing shitloads of nudes from him to plaster the CWCki with, I remain neutral as to whether they continue to troll him...I still mostly enjoy his responses to being trolled, at any rate.
[[User:Sussuro|Sussuro]] 17:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== Quick response while I'm supposed to be working ==

I'll prefix this with the statement that I have no real psych qualifications, and most of my rantings are more about gut instinct and reasoning than any form of academically sound studies.

In general I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said, Sussuro, since it makes a lot of sense. But keep in mind that Chris' lack of empathy goes far deeper than merely being unable to read social cues. In one of his early videos when he was told he was responsible for someone's decision to commit suicide there was NO sign of remorse in any way, rather he just seemed impressed with his own power. Throughout all of Chris' social interactions he seems to be dominated by a means-end calculation, he doesn't view people as people in their own right, more like NPCs in a computer game.

Although food for thought that I've wanted to expand upon but have been unsure as to how: Look up Kohlberg's stages of moral development. As a psych student you're probably familiar with them, but for any others reading here is a quick overview. There are three stages of moral development. The first is held by children, wherein their entire moral decision making is "What is in it for me?", a combination of "if I do X action, will I benefit?" and "If I do X action, will I be punished?" The second is a more developed view where moral stances are held because they have been taught, you have grown up with those moral ideas and hold on to them as 'right'. The final stage is where the individual uses their own logic and reasoning to determine what they believe is a morally right action.

Read through that, and I'm very certain most people will agree Chris falls firmly into stage 1. Chris has the morality of a child, and shows no sign of developing that. Make of it what you will, I'm uncertain where/if it can be used on the cwcki.
-- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 04:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Nothing wrong with feeling like a psych forum ==

In fact, trying to decipher the complex web of fail that is Chris is much more satisfying than just calling him a homo furfag retard.

That said, I really like your thesis, which points towards a trend that we've suspected all along: That autism alone is insufficient in explaining his constant failures, and that there is one or more intervening factor, namely his shitty parenting, narcissism, sociopathy, delusion...

Your arguments explain very nicely how Chris believes something becomes true just by saying it. It's analogous to your Sonic example: If there is a single factor (The Sonic show is for children/Chris stands for TRUTH and HONESTY), then it defines the entire surrounding context (everything involving Sonic is appropriate for children/anything said by Chris must be true) regardless of contravening factors.

I've offered an additional angle on my userpage. I can reproduce it here if you don't feel like going to my page, but essentially it (half-jokingly) hypothesizes that Chris may additionally suffer from schizophrenia, or even dissociative identity disorder. The fact that he takes his dreams as prophecy only leads credence to the former.

Keep it up. It's something I'd like to see expanded. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 02:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

:Okay, so, I concluded my remarks on this in [[CWCki:Speculation|the Speculation]] by saying ''fuck'' you guys. I'd just like to take a moment to take a step back and introduce my comments here by saying ''fuck'' you guys. Chris isn't a sociopath--he's incredibly childish, socially isolated, desperate, totally ignorant of what other people want, and totally ignorant of the way autism affects his ability to give it to them. He just plain hasn't been in enough social situations to learn--or learn the necessity of--certain skills. All the elements of sociopathy could be applied to a generic child at some point or another and the essence of autism is difficulty with empathy. I totally understand how these separate conditions look similar because they ''are'' similar. But that's not how diagnosis works. For one thing, I'm convinced Chris is selectively mute hence the noviophobia and attraction signs, but it wouldn't be proper to diagnose that or to treat that or consider that separate from his--or anyone else's--autism. I mean, that's not quite a thing in and of itself, but sake of argument, etc. They're connected. One is epiphenomenal upon the other. He was even universally mute at one point. He's got issues with speech. He's got issues with empathy. Just because a guy's stumbling around and smells like liquor doesn't mean he ''is'' drunk. It means he's ''probably'' drunk. The deal with probability is that the more information you get, the less relevant it is. If you just bump into him on the street like, you should probably assume the more likely. But if you're an ER technician or something and it's been a couple hours and he's lost the ability to perceive the left side of things, you might want to adjust your theory. The guy could've just had a couple drinks and a massive stroke. You've got to look at the surrounding issues.

:For one thing, Chris's invasive and violative behavior with women is based on his bizarre fucking ideas about what dating is. He invents retarded rules about how people should behave and then strictly follows them. He's not amoral the way a sociopath is. He's hypermoral. Helps... I think I already mentioned this in the Speculation, but it helps that his parents are morons. Like, his mom thought Michael Snyder was out of line for not offering her a chair when ''she was trespassing.''

:I'm repeating myself. I'm not sure there's any more I can say and I don't know if I'm changing any minds here, so, this being the Internet, I'm just going to declare victory and not comment anymore. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 17:24, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, I wanted to comment on the Monty Python thing. If what you're saying is true (and it probably is), then Chris would, for example, not appreciate the key points of what makes the "My Hovercraft is Filled with Eels" sketch so iconic: Its use of a "lost in translation"/"culture shock" trope, expressing sexually-charged lines in a completely oblivious deadpan, and just a little bit of xenophobia. Instead, Chris just hears that one oh-so-random line done in a funny accent thinks it's a fucking riot. I would also venture to guess he's never seen Life of Brian, either, as that movie is much less dependent on non-sequiter as comedic device. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 03:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

IRT your remarks on my page, which I have reproduced here for your convenience:
:You may have a point on the Simonla issue. If we're to take the simplest explanation (Chris is a selfish liar), it's probably another spur-of-the moment excuse to Evan, worded poorly because he assumes the latter is as childish/retarded as he is and will buy the argument. On the other hand, Chris has demonstrated repeated behavior showing that he believes his fantasy world is real. Also unaddressed is how Chris is not quite aware that he is the mouthpiece for his creations. By saying "Sonichu and Rosechu can go justify themselves", Chris demonstrates that he thinks that without the intervening factor of himself, his creations will go tell off Clyde and Miyamoto-sama.
:This goes beyond pure escapism, where CWCville is a place where he is in control of everything; this goes to show you that he feels CWCville and its related denizens are not only completely autonomous and able to interact with the outside world, but subject to the alterations and damages of others. Which is why feels he must "correct" the others' actions that threaten his idyllic paradise. It's not simply a matter of "fuck you trolls, I'll just act as if did nothing to CWCville," he has to rectify these slanderous mockeries in his pages, and additionally assure his readers (read: himself) that no major damage was done.
:The other point of "other people as real as cartoons" brings us right back to his sociopathy. Other people are merely as cartoon characters to be manipulated in the grand narrative of Chris's life. As [[Excel Saga|Great Director Chandler]], he believes other people will bend to his desires solely due to that "fact". He not only wants CWCville under his control, but also the real world. This squares nicely with his fear of losing control.
:One more revealing thing: Chris confessed in the comic pages that in high school, he would read R.L. Stine novels and imagine Sonic characters to be in their place. (This was probably well before Sonic degenerated into a recolor shitfest.) This shows that he can't even relate to ''fantasy'' humans on the account of being human (and not his own creation), and must imagine them as cartoon furries. (This might also explain why in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], he and Ivy fucking in their Chu forms... as well why he imagined himself in his Chu form in his own sexual fantasies with some other woman he was cybering that I can't name at the moment.) Coupled with his (possibly feigned possibly genuine) concern for the welfare of Asperchu ("He won't like having da Assburgers!) and Wild ("He'll be left all by his lonsome without Simonla!"), this shows that Chris is capable of empathy - for anthropomorphic cartoon characters, not humans. Or then again, maybe not: He might just be confusing his own selfish desires for concern for these furry creatures, like he does with real people all the time. That might explain the Simonla/Wild thing, which amounts to a control issue, but not the Asperchu/Mitch thing.
:Again, nothing really that new, just more evidence for your thesis. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 16:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Have you considered this angle? ===
I've tried to distill some of Chris's idiosyncracies into one statement:

'''Chris believes that words hold more power than actions or facts.'''

To normal people, it's the precise opposite; Words are absolutely empty unless backed by evidence or accompanying action. However, for Chris, he only needs to ''say'' something and it'll be taken as truth, regardless of anything to the contrary. This is how he is constantly able to be a [[hypocrisy|hypocrite]] and yet remain oblivious. The Asperpedia saga being played out in the comics illustrates this. A normal person would be bewildered that the many apologetic words to Alec and Co. are paired with the depiction of their mutilation. Not so Chris: he thinks that making those words of apology is sufficient for everyone to understand that he has genuinely apologized, which means they won't notice him indulging his sick fantasies of executing the Asperpedia Four. While the rest of the world sees through this as insincere (with quite a bit of cognitive dissonance), he probably TRULY and HONESTLY believes he was being sincere.

It is also why he is able to lie with impunity: by making a statement, it is automatically true, regardless of the facts it is based on. Possibly to him, they're not lies, but simply assertions of the truth in his (constantly changing to fit his wants) world.

The icing on the cake is the Chris Categorical Imperative that you stated. It is not simply ''anyone's'' words that hold power over their actions and the facts, but ''his words alone''. However, consistent with fears of losing control, Chris may believe that when some got-dang dirty troll makes a slanderous mockery of him, he fears that the troll's words will hold power over him and become truth, and must respond to validate his own truth, usually in the form of tard rage.

The "distilled statement" is not exactly a fully-developed gloss, but if this is already in your thesis, please point it out. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 07:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You're definately on the money with the statement about the power Chris puts into words. I honestly believe that Chris does not differentiate between words and reality. I can stand up in a crowded area and proclaim myself gay, without actually worrying about how that may influence my sexuality because I know there is a difference between a statement and fact. Chris, however, can only bring himself to state that he is gay if he is surrounded by what he believes count as proof of heterosexuality. This has two possible implications.

1. Chris is incredibly self conscious about what people think about him. While it COULD be right (he often seems to justify himself, look up his videos where he justifies his low fitness in "Sonichu's Edge", or the one where he justifies shitting himself), I do not believe this is the case. Chris just does too much random shit without seeming to care how other people view it.
2. Chris believes that a statement makes something true. By stating that he is gay, unless he somehow undermines it he actually BECOMES Gay. To use a childish metaphor, it is as if in Chris' mind every statement is backed up by a parent saying something is true "because I say so". Why do we cross the road when the light is green? Because I say so. Why am I straight? Because I say so.

In general, you seem to be fairly on the money. Chris MUST refute the slanderous statements trolls make about him, otherwise in his childish viewpoint they become fact. Of course, he seems to have abandoned this perspective in recent times, leaving the trolls to say what they will. It seems that Chris has an inherent respect and desire for an authority over him to tell him what to do. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 11:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

:"It seems that Chris has an inherent respect and desire for an authority over him to tell him what to do." Wow, that adds a whole 'nother dimension to the Unified Theory! It not only explains his relationship with his parents, but also with trolls and so-called sweethearts. However, that doesn't quite square with two things:
#His fear of loss of control, and
#his absolute contempt for authority just about everywhere else! (c.f. [[Jerkops]], [[Manajerks]], [[MLW]]...)
:Now, maybe the missing link is that Chris desires only authority that he doesn't find offensive. When BlueSpike was able to con Chris into doing all sorts of unspeakable acts, it was because Chris was able to accept "her" authority in order to further his goal of china. But when a JERK was just doing his job (and thereby hindering Chris's goal), that was a ticket to the bottom of the Scale of Respect. What do you think? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 10:16, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::This... Explains a lot, actually.
::Change "authority that he doesn't find offensive" with "authority that tells him what he wants to hear" and you've got something. Keep in mind, Chris expects things to fall into his lap (his winning a contest of life or something) so when an authority tells him what he wants to hear ("Do X and you'll get to have sex with me and thus prove your adulthood") it fits his worldview, so he pays attention to it. However if an authority tells him something that breaches his worldview it is as if they have breached his trust. He trusts authorities to give him what he wants, if they do otherwise then in his mind they must not be genuine authorities, which means they must be the corrupt and therefore must be bad guys. I'd love to sit down and write more on this idea, but a recent job situation means I don't have much spare time at the moment. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 02:17, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

User:Borednewb

2010-07-25T07:00:42Z

Borednewb:

Aussie here. Feel free to ignore this page, I'm just trying to understand the ballsed up mindset that is Chris, at least a little. If this is inappropriate, feel free to delete it. I'm just putting some theories down to see what people think.

== Is Chris a Sociopath? ==

Just my personal workspace going through if Chris really is a Sociopath. Don't mind me

Criteria for being a Sociopath obtained from here: www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
Uncertain how qualified a source it is, but it's a checklist we can work with

* Glibness and Superficial Charm
Chris has no charm. One negative.

* Manipulative and conning
Chris certainly TRIES to manipulate people, editing his own past to suit how he wants to present himself, boldfaced lying to people. One positive.
:*The key word here is "tries." While Chris has tried multiple times to manipulate and con people, he has never truly succeeded. Therefore, I would count this as a negative.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 03:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I'd personally put more stock in the attempt than the failure. Even if he was constantly being caught, if he kept trying to steal shit it would be an indicator of kleptomania.

* Grandiose Sense of Self
This is CERTAINLY Chris. He is certain he is gods gift to everything. Two positives.

* Pathological Lying
[[lies|This]] speaks for itself. Three positives.

* Lack of remorse, shame or guilt
[[remorse|This]] also speaks for itself. Four positives.

* Shallow emotions
I have no proof of it, but I am of the belief that Chris' emotions are INCREDIBLY shallow. Look at the difference between his 'goodbye Kacey' video and the following video where he shows off his copyright. Neither positive or negative, as it can't be proven.

* Incapacity for Love
Chris only began his 'sweetheart search' when he realised he needed someone to comfort him and put up with his shit after he ran crying from a class at PVCC. He doesn't love any of his sweethearts he loudly proclaims to love, he just wants someone to do things for him the way his mother does, plus sex. Five positive.

* Need for stimulation
This one is pretty much no. Chris' idea of a stimulating evening is playing PS3 all day and fucking a blow up doll. Two negatives.

* Callousness/lack of empathy
See the above entry for his lack of remorse, or [[Chris and death]].

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive nature
I'll say yes, but at the moment I'm too lazy to gather evidence. Needless to say, Chris rarely thinks things over in advance. Six positives.
:*I don't know if you want me to edit stuff in here directly (cut and paste it to a separate section if you want), but... I'd refer to his blurting out personal information as bad impulse control, along with his PSN spending habits. That's just off the top of my head. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
::* As long as you 4x~ what you put in here, I'm more than happy for you to do direct edits. Or if you want to wholeheartedly steal this stuff and put it in another article, I'm quite happy for that to happen too.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
No real evidence of this. Three Negatives.
:*What about being held down and having his screams recorded? It's not Juvenile Delinquency, but it certainly is a behaviour problem. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Very true, but we don't really know what caused that, and it could be attributed to Chris' autism. If someone told me he was just being a dick, I'd believe it, but for now it's difficult to prove.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Although Chris is incredibly irresponsible and unreliable, in the article it quantifies this as someone who "does not accept blame themselves, and shifts it on to others." I present [[Chris and remorse#Shifting blame|exhibit 1]]. Seven positives.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
As revealed by many of the sweetheart sagas, all it takes for Chris to abandon fidelity is for another willing one to show up. Eight positives.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Jesus FUCK yes. Nine positives.

* Criminal or Entrepeneurial Versatility
Chris has shown no sign of being versatile in the least, definately not in the area of money or business. Four negatives.

So far Chris seems to have Nine positives and four negatives. I may write this up in a better format soon so it could work as article, but I can't at the moment.

== Unified theory of Chris ==

Chris is an autistic sociopath with a thin grasp of the differentiation between fantasy and reality.

Because of the autism Chris is unable to understand in depth social cues and finds it far easier to relate to (note, not empathise) more one dimensional figures than real life offering, and so turns to characters from childrens shows and simple movies (and when watching shows with more depths, he only picks up on the simplest of understandings). From this he picks up what he understands as the 'rules' of the game, such as the [[third date|third date rule]], his poor understanding of the [[friend zone]], and things such as '[[heart level]]'. The way social interaction (in fact, everything) in the real world works is too complex for Chris so he abstracts it down to what he believes the rules are, rules he has picked up from ficticious media. And so Chris believes things like 'the hero always ends up with the girl', are not literary conceits but the way the real world works.

But the idea of his world being based on the conceits of writing a simplistic story may not be entirely correct. He may not be basing reality on fantasy, he may be getting the two confused. Chris seems to believe he is the hero/narrator of his own story, and as such cannot really differentiate between statement and fact. Chris best understands simplistic stories, and it is mentioned elsewhere [[Chris and writing|his writing style]] is incredibly reliant upon exposition, where the narrator's job is to stand in for actions. "Meanwhile, the dastardly villains have finished building their superweapon", that sort of thing. Because it is stated by the narrator, it is a fact that the people who are making a superweapon are dastardly and villains. And so, with Chris confusing his world with a story with him as the narrator, he seems to think that by making statements, they become true. By describing himself as loyal, true and honest he IS loyal, true and honest. For more information on this, go down to the part about 'Chris' Categorial imperative'.

Bob, as a 'southern gentleman' probably imparted onto Chris nuggets of wisdom such as his dislike of [[homos|homosexuals]] and general distrust of [[Chris and race|black people]], and within Chris' mind these took on the properties of fact. This is probably why Chris finds it so distasteful to make statements like [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|"I am gay"]], seeming revulsed by them. In his mind by making those statements, he is BECOMING gay, and why he put such pathetic imagery in the videos to deny any homosexuality.

Chris is a Sociopath. He is unable to empathise with others, and in fact views them as characters in ''his'' story. Working on the idea that this is 'his' story, Chris doesn't view the 'characters' as people, he views them as a means to an end. That end is twofold, firstly in becoming a man (which in his mind will happen primarily when he finds himself a 'sweetheart' and has sex) and secondly in having adolescent fun with his games.

So as a Sociopath Chris views all interactions under a simple means/end equation. "What means will get me the desired end" is the sentence that dictates all of Chris' interactions with others. He wants to avoid [[Alec]]'s calls (or more exactly, thinking about the issues Alec raises), so he'll just ignore what's being said, putting the minimum amount of effort into the conversation to get what he wants (Alec to agree with him and/or go away). He wants a Girlfriend so he'll do whatever he believes is necessary to make it happen.

As proof, view the [[11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You|videos to]] [[CWC is Sad|Kacey]] when he thinks she's leaving him. These are obvious attempts at sympathy, considering he'd known her for all of a couple of weeks at this stage. He is doing this because in his mind if he seems pitiful, she will be sorry for him (probably the only way he avoided getting beaten up in school). Then in the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|next video]] he's on top of the world. His ingenuine emotions shows they were an attempt to manipulate Kasey, suggesting further he has no ability to empathise with her or her desires.

Although in the interests of fairness I should mention the possibility that these videos are genuine emotions. How might this be? Surely if Chris is so sociopathic he wouldn't be so upset at losing someone he knew for a matter of weeks. Sure he can be, he's upset because he failed. Keep in mind, to him the only reason Liquid Chris got Kacey was by pretending to be him, so in Chris's mind she was in love with Chris, not Liquid. For her to decide to go with the 'imposter' is like telling Chris that he failed, something he never copes well with.

If Chris is so manipulative socially, the obvious question is why is he not more successful socially then? The simple answer is because he is a socially inept social manipulator. Chris cannot project or understand body language, his three tones of voice are "I am angry", "I am normal" and "I am speaking to a cat/girlfriend", and even when people flat out tell him how they feel, he does not understand. He only understands the most basic aspects of social interaction, and so his attempts to influence the social realm fail in ways that can only be greeted with equal amounts of mirth and amazement.

The real nail in the coffin that backs up all of these claims comes in the most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]]. In this he shows all of the above aspects.

1. Autistic: Chris proves his inability to understand social cues in the statement:
{{quote|I mean, you aren't even ready for a boyfriend! You told me so yourself, multiple times!}}
This shows he is unable to understand simple social conventions, such as "When a girl tells you she is not interested in a boyfriend, do not keep following that one thought", but the fact he had to be told multiple times suggests that he kept on asking.

2. Sociopathic: In all the statements he shows a complete inability to understand any of her thoughts on the matter, all that matters in his mind is that HE gets the girl. He has no thoughts for how she understands matters, only for the fact that he has decided that she will be his girlfriend, yet she is not. There is only one perspective that matters on the issue, and that is his own.

3. Manipulator: The first thing he does when things are not going his way, he attempts to manipulate the situation in his own socially inept way. He plays the pity card, attempting to sway her decision not to be with him because he has autism and is a virgin. This is linked with Chris' inability to empathise with others. He can't understand the pain others feel, only his own, which to his twisted perspective means that his own pain is most important.

4. Confuses reality with story: Chris obviously believes he is the main character. Just look at this statement:
{{quote|you don't need that new boyfriend, because... I need you.}}
His proof to her that SHE does not need her current (questionable) boyfriend is that HE needs her. That is like saying "You don't need that sandwich because I am hungry", there is no cause and effect there as understood by the real world, only in Christian's warped understanding of reality. In Chris' mind he is the main character and all considerations other than his are secondary at best, this isn't just an egocentric view this is the FACT of the world.

tl;dr version: Chris is a sociopath who doesn't give a fuck about anyone and will say/do whatever he thinks will get the result he wants. He's a socially inept wanna-be-manipulative sociopath autistic.

=== To Write ===

Chris has no creativity. I don't just mean "What he makes is uncreative", I mean "He physically is unable to comprehend creativity". Look at one of his graduation notes as listed below. In it he equates time and effort with being creative, he doesn't understand the importance of quality. More to come.
[[File:0566-GraduationNote1.jpg||thumbnail|left]]

== Past writing ==

This is kept up here while I'm working through what I can see.

===Chris' limited understanding===

Reading [[Random-access humor|this]] and watching the [[CWCFlyingElephants|Monty Python video]] may explain a bit about Chris' mindset. Chris adores Monty Python, that much is obvious (and tragic). He loves it in the same way a child would ("That man has a silly walk!", "He's slapping the guy with fish!" would be the depth of his understanding) and understands that it is 'funny', and it is similar with his love of family guy. He loves the shows and understands that they are funny and so his own attempts at humour (as evident in his list of 'jokes' in [[Random-access humor]]) are based entirely around what he understands of the series.

He recognises that they are funny, he recognises that a lot of the humour in both shows are based on the non-sequitor nature of the jokes, and so in his mind he equates 'randomness' with 'funny'. In a normal person, they recognise the vast amount of work that goes into making something funny, it requires timing, relevance to the audience, risqué nature, and a host of other variables, all coming together in varied amounts (some being left out completely in particular types of humour) to create an entire form of communication. Chris only sees limited aspects and automatically equates them. To him risqué = joke, and random = joke.

Look at his [[Christian's sex joke|'joke']] as an example. It lacks any form of pacing, no misleading statements about where the joke is going, nothing confronting, in fact the closest it gets to a joke is using milk and eggs as a metaphor for sperm and the female egg, an attempt at a double entendre that fails enormously. He then goes on to butcher whatever humour may (but doesn't) exist by showing a complete lack of timing and carrying the joke on past any humourous stage.

He believes that by including a risque attempt at a double entendre in what is otherwise a children's fable level of writing (all it's missing is a wicked witch trying to stop the husband getting home and the phrase "Happily ever after" at the end, and it would be a poor fable) it becomes a joke. Similarly, he knows the Junkions are meant to be comic relief in the original Transformers movie, and so he thinks that by making random statements he is funny. He doesn't understand context, or 'get' any second level to things.

Let's take this and apply it to his pride and joy, Sonichu. Chris likes Sonic and Pokemon, and Chris realises they are for children. By putting them together he thinks that makes his comic automatically for children. He doesn't comprehend the amazing requirements on a story to make it an effective children's story, he simply assumes "Sonic is for children, therefore anything with Sonic in it is for children". He can throw in hardcore gore, sex scenes, huge romance plots that really are inappropriate for children (kids don't read romance novels for a reason, they're not interested in a lot of that), and in his mind it is still a comic appropriate for children.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris doesn't understand context, and believes correlation = causation. Sonic is in a show for children, therefore anything Sonic is in is for children, he doesn't understand that it was the stories in the children's show that made it appropriate for children, not by virtue of it being about a blue hedgehog.

=== Chris' Categorical Imperative ===

I wrote a bit about this on the page [[Chris and his Ego]], but I just want to expand. There I said that Chris had a child like method of debating, he decides on the facts and then twist the evidence to support it (look at his use of parody to talk down about Asperchu, while at the same time legitimising Sonichu by claiming it to be a parody). But I think there may be something more to it than this. In philosophy there is the term in discussing morality called 'Moral Absolutism', that is where there is an absolute truth about what is moral and what is not. I will call Chris' view on the world 'Chris Absolutism'. That is, there is an absolute truth about the world, and when people disagree with him (his view being factual in his eyes) it is because they do not understand it.

Look at [[Megan]] and his end result with that. Chris believes that Megan is his sweetheart and therefore in his mind, according to reality she is. When the fiasco happened, she is upset with the picture Chris posted, and everyone jokes that he thinks she's upset because she doesn't understand the sexual act in question, but that is a sign of something far scarier.

Chris thinks he is a gentleman, therefore everything he does is the act of a gentleman, and if she's upset with him acting inappropriately well obviously he didn't act inappropriately because gentlemen do not do that, so instead she just didn't understand his action. So he explains it, thinking "My action is the action of a gentleman, if she understands it as I do, she will have to agree".

Chris gets confused when people disagree with him not because he's slow (well, he is, but that's not the only reason) but because he knows his belief is fact and so he just needs to work out what evidence he has to back it up, often evidence that doesn't exist. He does not understand the differentiation between perception and truth. It is why he is unable to learn, time after time, that all his sweethearts are trolls, because in his heart he loves (I think his conception of love needs analysis, too) them and so that means in reality they are his true love. Similarly, Chris honestly believes he is young, thin, handsome, honest and a gentleman because he states these to be facts. Any proof to the contrary does not fit with his self image and so it is ignored, and anyone who says he is not any of these things is obviously incorrect in his mind.

A search for the term "I was wrong" on this -pedia reveals that it is only used 10 times, and only 3 of those are Chris. Every one of those 3 times are him either apologising because he thinks it will get him something or... actually that's it. It's him talking to Kacey's father thinking apologising will get him out of trouble, apologising for the coke adds in an incredibly passive aggressive way thinking it'll get him out of trouble, and apologising to Kacey thinking it'll get her back. Chris is never wrong unless 'admitting' it gets him something.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris does not understand the difference between his perspective and absolute truth. He has no conception of being wrong not because he is arrogant, but because he honestly doesn't differentiate between his perception and reality. And so anyone who disagrees with him is trolling or ignorant. Look at the white knights trying to save him from trolling sweet hearts (every one of them being ignored in favour of his perspective, that his sweethearts are 'true and loyal' to him). Or the Megan saga, where when Megan was angry with him he assumed explaining himself would make her understand that he was right.

=== Chris and 'love' ===

Like many things, Chris seems to understand love in terms best compared to a computer game (see his [[Mary_Lee_Walsh#Emails_with_Mary|respect meter]]), that is to say it is a goal driven enterprise, not a mutual attraction. Falling in love and having sex are stepping stones in maturity and leaving childhood to enter into mature adulthood, and so to Chris it is the 'goal' he attains. In Pokemon and other games there is ALWAYS a pre-scripted way through the puzzles to the solution, so Chris assumes there is here. Rather than allowing it naturally to happen (assuming it would naturally happen in Chris' case) he seems determined to go through the steps as quickly as possible. Even in calling it a 'Girlfriend quest' or 'Love quest' it makes it sound like some bullshit dating simulator "Collect twenty panties and I'll sleep with you" game. In his desire for 'dating classes' he doesn't actually want to learn how to talk to women effectively, he wants a walkthrough he can finish the game with.

But that is not to say he is attempting to rush it, he merely assumes it can be done that quickly. From hordes of fables and romantic tales Chris 'learns' how love works (he assumes it is a magical 'eyes meet across the room and happily ever after affair), and from comic stereotypes and bad teen comedies he learns how dating works (the good guy meets with the girl, they have chemistry, fuck by the third date). Considering he seems to blur the lines between [[Chris_and_reality|fantasy and reality]] in most things, it is no surprise he seems to view these as documentaries rather than stories and believes that relationships should move this quickly and always work out.

Put this together and there's one obvious conclusion. Chris does not love any of his 'girlfriends' (none of which are really friends, most of which aren't really girls), instead he loves the idea of a girlfriend. Chris has NEVER spoken of meeting someone and not really having a 'spark' with them, a situation most people experience fairly regularly, he just assumes if they are interested in him and meet his physical requirements, than they must be 'the one'. He loves none of them, instead he loves the idea of having a girlfriend, the [[CWC's_Message_for_Ivy|loveydoveyness]] is a combination of the belief this is how people in relationships act, a desire to keep his girlfriend by telling her he loves her, and an expression of the feeling of accomplishment he has.

This is why Chris is able to move on so quickly when the relationship invariably falls apart. Follow the Chris Logic:

Man and woman fall in love -> Happy Ending.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will have a happy ending and be an adult.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will be in love with her.

If a girl is with me -> She is my true love.

If a girl leaves me -> She is not my true love.

In an ideal relationship, you're with your partner because you both love each other. In a Chris relationship whoever you're with, you love. When they leave him he's sad because they're not with him, not because his heart is broken.

And now, onto his fear of breaking up couples in relationships in his comics. Because he views the relationship as the end goal (the 'winning point', so to speak), having a relationship break up in his comic would be like depowering the characters (I.E. Utterly alien to him) or willingly trying to lose a game.

Additional: A theory on Chris and sex. Chris never reached any degree of maturity, but he still sexually matured enough to enjoy the act of sex (although in Chris' case it is a solo act, perhaps with props). But since he is not emotionally mature enough to truly have a sexuality, he falls back on accepted knowledge. Chris dislikes homosexuals and likes women because he has accepted from birth that this is what men like. A couple of times he's mentioned that in the past he's been called homosexual before his encounter with the trolls (I recall reading this, not sure where. Any help would be appreciated), so his homophobia is probably a backlash from that ("I'm being called homosexual as an insult. I don't like being insulted, so being called a homosexual is bad. So homosexuality is bad, so I hate homosexuals"). So without a genuine sexuality he feels he must force himself to be straight to fit in, hence his use of the Sailor Moon poster as a reminder to 'keep (him) straight'. This also explains why he uses things such as vibrators, since Chris never developed a true sexuality, he enjoys anything that causes sexual stimulation. In the same way a rat with a pleasure button does, Chris will keep pressing whatever buttons help him enjoy himself. He used vibrators until people said "That is homosexual", and so he 'publically' stops. It's possible (or even likely) he privately continues, because his hatred of being called homosexual may not be the fear of being called homosexual, it may be lingering fear of the social insult of being called gay in school.

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2010-07-25T00:02:56Z

Borednewb:

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CWCki talkpages are not forums. Discontinue using talk pages for discussion. Your Autism is no excuse. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

ur gay —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 20:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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Whatever others might reply to this: I think you're fucking great for stating this. You've spotlighted something that has bothered me for some time in certain articles and will need to be addressed if the CWCiki really tries to become more neutral. *applauds you* --[[User:Miela|Miela]] 17:52, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

:Excellant! I'm kind of repeating myself here and I've got shit to consolidate, but I certainly look forward to your tenuous support as, [[Chris_and_the_Internet#Attempts_to_leave_the_Internet|in the absence of a common enemy]], CWCki editors begin to turn on each other. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 19:06, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

As it says above, this page is not a forum so I'll be brief: It's cool mate. You've got your view on it, I've got mine. I have no psychiatric or psychological qualifications so nothing makes my opinion any kind of expert judgement. All I'll really say is he has a LOT of the symptoms of being a sociopath and there is a point where if something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, fucks like a duck and swims like a duck, it is probably a fucking duck. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 00:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Borednewb

2010-07-24T10:20:20Z

Borednewb:

Aussie here. Feel free to ignore this page, I'm just trying to understand the ballsed up mindset that is Chris, at least a little. If this is inappropriate, feel free to delete it. I'm just putting some theories down to see what people think.

== Is Chris a Sociopath? ==

Just my personal workspace going through if Chris really is a Sociopath. Don't mind me

Criteria for being a Sociopath obtained from here: www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
Uncertain how qualified a source it is, but it's a checklist we can work with

* Glibness and Superficial Charm
Chris has no charm. One negative.

* Manipulative and conning
Chris certainly TRIES to manipulate people, editing his own past to suit how he wants to present himself, boldfaced lying to people. One positive.

* Grandiose Sense of Self
This is CERTAINLY Chris. He is certain he is gods gift to everything. Two positives.

* Pathological Lying
[[lies|This]] speaks for itself. Three positives.

* Lack of remorse, shame or guilt
[[remorse|This]] also speaks for itself. Four positives.

* Shallow emotions
I have no proof of it, but I am of the belief that Chris' emotions are INCREDIBLY shallow. Look at the difference between his 'goodbye Kacey' video and the following video where he shows off his copyright. Neither positive or negative, as it can't be proven.

* Incapacity for Love
Chris only began his 'sweetheart search' when he realised he needed someone to comfort him and put up with his shit after he ran crying from a class at PVCC. He doesn't love any of his sweethearts he loudly proclaims to love, he just wants someone to do things for him the way his mother does, plus sex. Five positive.

* Need for stimulation
This one is pretty much no. Chris' idea of a stimulating evening is playing PS3 all day and fucking a blow up doll. Two negatives.

* Callousness/lack of empathy
See the above entry for his lack of remorse, or [[Chris and death]].

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive nature
I'll say yes, but at the moment I'm too lazy to gather evidence. Needless to say, Chris rarely thinks things over in advance. Six positives.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
No real evidence of this. Three Negatives.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Although Chris is incredibly irresponsible and unreliable, in the article it quantifies this as someone who "does not accept blame themselves, and shifts it on to others." I present [[Chris and remorse#Shifting blame|exhibit 1]]. Seven positives.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
As revealed by many of the sweetheart sagas, all it takes for Chris to abandon fidelity is for another willing one to show up. Eight positives.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Jesus FUCK yes. Nine positives.

* Criminal or Entrepeneurial Versatility
Chris has shown no sign of being versatile in the least, definately not in the area of money or business. Four negatives.

So far Chris seems to have Nine positives and four negatives. I may write this up in a better format soon so it could work as article, but I can't at the moment.

== Unified theory of Chris ==

Chris is an autistic sociopath with a thin grasp of the differentiation between fantasy and reality.

Because of the autism Chris is unable to understand in depth social cues and finds it far easier to relate to (note, not empathise) more one dimensional figures than real life offering, and so turns to characters from childrens shows and simple movies (and when watching shows with more depths, he only picks up on the simplest of understandings). From this he picks up what he understands as the 'rules' of the game, such as the [[third date|third date rule]], his poor understanding of the [[friend zone]], and things such as '[[heart level]]'. The way social interaction (in fact, everything) in the real world works is too complex for Chris so he abstracts it down to what he believes the rules are, rules he has picked up from ficticious media. And so Chris believes things like 'the hero always ends up with the girl', are not literary conceits but the way the real world works.

But the idea of his world being based on the conceits of writing a simplistic story may not be entirely correct. He may not be basing reality on fantasy, he may be getting the two confused. Chris seems to believe he is the hero/narrator of his own story, and as such cannot really differentiate between statement and fact. Chris best understands simplistic stories, and it is mentioned elsewhere [[Chris and writing|his writing style]] is incredibly reliant upon exposition, where the narrator's job is to stand in for actions. "Meanwhile, the dastardly villains have finished building their superweapon", that sort of thing. Because it is stated by the narrator, it is a fact that the people who are making a superweapon are dastardly and villains. And so, with Chris confusing his world with a story with him as the narrator, he seems to think that by making statements, they become true. By describing himself as loyal, true and honest he IS loyal, true and honest. For more information on this, go down to the part about 'Chris' Categorial imperative'.

Bob, as a 'southern gentleman' probably imparted onto Chris nuggets of wisdom such as his dislike of [[homos|homosexuals]] and general distrust of [[Chris and race|black people]], and within Chris' mind these took on the properties of fact. This is probably why Chris finds it so distasteful to make statements like [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|"I am gay"]], seeming revulsed by them. In his mind by making those statements, he is BECOMING gay, and why he put such pathetic imagery in the videos to deny any homosexuality.

Chris is a Sociopath. He is unable to empathise with others, and in fact views them as characters in ''his'' story. Working on the idea that this is 'his' story, Chris doesn't view the 'characters' as people, he views them as a means to an end. That end is twofold, firstly in becoming a man (which in his mind will happen primarily when he finds himself a 'sweetheart' and has sex) and secondly in having adolescent fun with his games.

So as a Sociopath Chris views all interactions under a simple means/end equation. "What means will get me the desired end" is the sentence that dictates all of Chris' interactions with others. He wants to avoid [[Alec]]'s calls (or more exactly, thinking about the issues Alec raises), so he'll just ignore what's being said, putting the minimum amount of effort into the conversation to get what he wants (Alec to agree with him and/or go away). He wants a Girlfriend so he'll do whatever he believes is necessary to make it happen.

As proof, view the [[11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You|videos to]] [[CWC is Sad|Kacey]] when he thinks she's leaving him. These are obvious attempts at sympathy, considering he'd known her for all of a couple of weeks at this stage. He is doing this because in his mind if he seems pitiful, she will be sorry for him (probably the only way he avoided getting beaten up in school). Then in the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|next video]] he's on top of the world. His ingenuine emotions shows they were an attempt to manipulate Kasey, suggesting further he has no ability to empathise with her or her desires.

Although in the interests of fairness I should mention the possibility that these videos are genuine emotions. How might this be? Surely if Chris is so sociopathic he wouldn't be so upset at losing someone he knew for a matter of weeks. Sure he can be, he's upset because he failed. Keep in mind, to him the only reason Liquid Chris got Kacey was by pretending to be him, so in Chris's mind she was in love with Chris, not Liquid. For her to decide to go with the 'imposter' is like telling Chris that he failed, something he never copes well with.

If Chris is so manipulative socially, the obvious question is why is he not more successful socially then? The simple answer is because he is a socially inept social manipulator. Chris cannot project or understand body language, his three tones of voice are "I am angry", "I am normal" and "I am speaking to a cat/girlfriend", and even when people flat out tell him how they feel, he does not understand. He only understands the most basic aspects of social interaction, and so his attempts to influence the social realm fail in ways that can only be greeted with equal amounts of mirth and amazement.

The real nail in the coffin that backs up all of these claims comes in the most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]]. In this he shows all of the above aspects.

1. Autistic: Chris proves his inability to understand social cues in the statement:
{{quote|I mean, you aren't even ready for a boyfriend! You told me so yourself, multiple times!}}
This shows he is unable to understand simple social conventions, such as "When a girl tells you she is not interested in a boyfriend, do not keep following that one thought", but the fact he had to be told multiple times suggests that he kept on asking.

2. Sociopathic: In all the statements he shows a complete inability to understand any of her thoughts on the matter, all that matters in his mind is that HE gets the girl. He has no thoughts for how she understands matters, only for the fact that he has decided that she will be his girlfriend, yet she is not. There is only one perspective that matters on the issue, and that is his own.

3. Manipulator: The first thing he does when things are not going his way, he attempts to manipulate the situation in his own socially inept way. He plays the pity card, attempting to sway her decision not to be with him because he has autism and is a virgin. This is linked with Chris' inability to empathise with others. He can't understand the pain others feel, only his own, which to his twisted perspective means that his own pain is most important.

4. Confuses reality with story: Chris obviously believes he is the main character. Just look at this statement:
{{quote|you don't need that new boyfriend, because... I need you.}}
His proof to her that SHE does not need her current (questionable) boyfriend is that HE needs her. That is like saying "You don't need that sandwich because I am hungry", there is no cause and effect there as understood by the real world, only in Christian's warped understanding of reality. In Chris' mind he is the main character and all considerations other than his are secondary at best, this isn't just an egocentric view this is the FACT of the world.

tl;dr version: Chris is a sociopath who doesn't give a fuck about anyone and will say/do whatever he thinks will get the result he wants. He's a socially inept wanna-be-manipulative sociopath autistic.

=== To Write ===

Chris has no creativity. I don't just mean "What he makes is uncreative", I mean "He physically is unable to comprehend creativity". Look at one of his graduation notes as listed below. In it he equates time and effort with being creative, he doesn't understand the importance of quality. More to come.
[[File:0566-GraduationNote1.jpg||thumbnail|left]]

== Past writing ==

This is kept up here while I'm working through what I can see.

===Chris' limited understanding===

Reading [[Random-access humor|this]] and watching the [[CWCFlyingElephants|Monty Python video]] may explain a bit about Chris' mindset. Chris adores Monty Python, that much is obvious (and tragic). He loves it in the same way a child would ("That man has a silly walk!", "He's slapping the guy with fish!" would be the depth of his understanding) and understands that it is 'funny', and it is similar with his love of family guy. He loves the shows and understands that they are funny and so his own attempts at humour (as evident in his list of 'jokes' in [[Random-access humor]]) are based entirely around what he understands of the series.

He recognises that they are funny, he recognises that a lot of the humour in both shows are based on the non-sequitor nature of the jokes, and so in his mind he equates 'randomness' with 'funny'. In a normal person, they recognise the vast amount of work that goes into making something funny, it requires timing, relevance to the audience, risqué nature, and a host of other variables, all coming together in varied amounts (some being left out completely in particular types of humour) to create an entire form of communication. Chris only sees limited aspects and automatically equates them. To him risqué = joke, and random = joke.

Look at his [[Christian's sex joke|'joke']] as an example. It lacks any form of pacing, no misleading statements about where the joke is going, nothing confronting, in fact the closest it gets to a joke is using milk and eggs as a metaphor for sperm and the female egg, an attempt at a double entendre that fails enormously. He then goes on to butcher whatever humour may (but doesn't) exist by showing a complete lack of timing and carrying the joke on past any humourous stage.

He believes that by including a risque attempt at a double entendre in what is otherwise a children's fable level of writing (all it's missing is a wicked witch trying to stop the husband getting home and the phrase "Happily ever after" at the end, and it would be a poor fable) it becomes a joke. Similarly, he knows the Junkions are meant to be comic relief in the original Transformers movie, and so he thinks that by making random statements he is funny. He doesn't understand context, or 'get' any second level to things.

Let's take this and apply it to his pride and joy, Sonichu. Chris likes Sonic and Pokemon, and Chris realises they are for children. By putting them together he thinks that makes his comic automatically for children. He doesn't comprehend the amazing requirements on a story to make it an effective children's story, he simply assumes "Sonic is for children, therefore anything with Sonic in it is for children". He can throw in hardcore gore, sex scenes, huge romance plots that really are inappropriate for children (kids don't read romance novels for a reason, they're not interested in a lot of that), and in his mind it is still a comic appropriate for children.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris doesn't understand context, and believes correlation = causation. Sonic is in a show for children, therefore anything Sonic is in is for children, he doesn't understand that it was the stories in the children's show that made it appropriate for children, not by virtue of it being about a blue hedgehog.

=== Chris' Categorical Imperative ===

I wrote a bit about this on the page [[Chris and his Ego]], but I just want to expand. There I said that Chris had a child like method of debating, he decides on the facts and then twist the evidence to support it (look at his use of parody to talk down about Asperchu, while at the same time legitimising Sonichu by claiming it to be a parody). But I think there may be something more to it than this. In philosophy there is the term in discussing morality called 'Moral Absolutism', that is where there is an absolute truth about what is moral and what is not. I will call Chris' view on the world 'Chris Absolutism'. That is, there is an absolute truth about the world, and when people disagree with him (his view being factual in his eyes) it is because they do not understand it.

Look at [[Megan]] and his end result with that. Chris believes that Megan is his sweetheart and therefore in his mind, according to reality she is. When the fiasco happened, she is upset with the picture Chris posted, and everyone jokes that he thinks she's upset because she doesn't understand the sexual act in question, but that is a sign of something far scarier.

Chris thinks he is a gentleman, therefore everything he does is the act of a gentleman, and if she's upset with him acting inappropriately well obviously he didn't act inappropriately because gentlemen do not do that, so instead she just didn't understand his action. So he explains it, thinking "My action is the action of a gentleman, if she understands it as I do, she will have to agree".

Chris gets confused when people disagree with him not because he's slow (well, he is, but that's not the only reason) but because he knows his belief is fact and so he just needs to work out what evidence he has to back it up, often evidence that doesn't exist. He does not understand the differentiation between perception and truth. It is why he is unable to learn, time after time, that all his sweethearts are trolls, because in his heart he loves (I think his conception of love needs analysis, too) them and so that means in reality they are his true love. Similarly, Chris honestly believes he is young, thin, handsome, honest and a gentleman because he states these to be facts. Any proof to the contrary does not fit with his self image and so it is ignored, and anyone who says he is not any of these things is obviously incorrect in his mind.

A search for the term "I was wrong" on this -pedia reveals that it is only used 10 times, and only 3 of those are Chris. Every one of those 3 times are him either apologising because he thinks it will get him something or... actually that's it. It's him talking to Kacey's father thinking apologising will get him out of trouble, apologising for the coke adds in an incredibly passive aggressive way thinking it'll get him out of trouble, and apologising to Kacey thinking it'll get her back. Chris is never wrong unless 'admitting' it gets him something.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris does not understand the difference between his perspective and absolute truth. He has no conception of being wrong not because he is arrogant, but because he honestly doesn't differentiate between his perception and reality. And so anyone who disagrees with him is trolling or ignorant. Look at the white knights trying to save him from trolling sweet hearts (every one of them being ignored in favour of his perspective, that his sweethearts are 'true and loyal' to him). Or the Megan saga, where when Megan was angry with him he assumed explaining himself would make her understand that he was right.

=== Chris and 'love' ===

Like many things, Chris seems to understand love in terms best compared to a computer game (see his [[Mary_Lee_Walsh#Emails_with_Mary|respect meter]]), that is to say it is a goal driven enterprise, not a mutual attraction. Falling in love and having sex are stepping stones in maturity and leaving childhood to enter into mature adulthood, and so to Chris it is the 'goal' he attains. In Pokemon and other games there is ALWAYS a pre-scripted way through the puzzles to the solution, so Chris assumes there is here. Rather than allowing it naturally to happen (assuming it would naturally happen in Chris' case) he seems determined to go through the steps as quickly as possible. Even in calling it a 'Girlfriend quest' or 'Love quest' it makes it sound like some bullshit dating simulator "Collect twenty panties and I'll sleep with you" game. In his desire for 'dating classes' he doesn't actually want to learn how to talk to women effectively, he wants a walkthrough he can finish the game with.

But that is not to say he is attempting to rush it, he merely assumes it can be done that quickly. From hordes of fables and romantic tales Chris 'learns' how love works (he assumes it is a magical 'eyes meet across the room and happily ever after affair), and from comic stereotypes and bad teen comedies he learns how dating works (the good guy meets with the girl, they have chemistry, fuck by the third date). Considering he seems to blur the lines between [[Chris_and_reality|fantasy and reality]] in most things, it is no surprise he seems to view these as documentaries rather than stories and believes that relationships should move this quickly and always work out.

Put this together and there's one obvious conclusion. Chris does not love any of his 'girlfriends' (none of which are really friends, most of which aren't really girls), instead he loves the idea of a girlfriend. Chris has NEVER spoken of meeting someone and not really having a 'spark' with them, a situation most people experience fairly regularly, he just assumes if they are interested in him and meet his physical requirements, than they must be 'the one'. He loves none of them, instead he loves the idea of having a girlfriend, the [[CWC's_Message_for_Ivy|loveydoveyness]] is a combination of the belief this is how people in relationships act, a desire to keep his girlfriend by telling her he loves her, and an expression of the feeling of accomplishment he has.

This is why Chris is able to move on so quickly when the relationship invariably falls apart. Follow the Chris Logic:

Man and woman fall in love -> Happy Ending.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will have a happy ending and be an adult.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will be in love with her.

If a girl is with me -> She is my true love.

If a girl leaves me -> She is not my true love.

In an ideal relationship, you're with your partner because you both love each other. In a Chris relationship whoever you're with, you love. When they leave him he's sad because they're not with him, not because his heart is broken.

And now, onto his fear of breaking up couples in relationships in his comics. Because he views the relationship as the end goal (the 'winning point', so to speak), having a relationship break up in his comic would be like depowering the characters (I.E. Utterly alien to him) or willingly trying to lose a game.

Additional: A theory on Chris and sex. Chris never reached any degree of maturity, but he still sexually matured enough to enjoy the act of sex (although in Chris' case it is a solo act, perhaps with props). But since he is not emotionally mature enough to truly have a sexuality, he falls back on accepted knowledge. Chris dislikes homosexuals and likes women because he has accepted from birth that this is what men like. A couple of times he's mentioned that in the past he's been called homosexual before his encounter with the trolls (I recall reading this, not sure where. Any help would be appreciated), so his homophobia is probably a backlash from that ("I'm being called homosexual as an insult. I don't like being insulted, so being called a homosexual is bad. So homosexuality is bad, so I hate homosexuals"). So without a genuine sexuality he feels he must force himself to be straight to fit in, hence his use of the Sailor Moon poster as a reminder to 'keep (him) straight'. This also explains why he uses things such as vibrators, since Chris never developed a true sexuality, he enjoys anything that causes sexual stimulation. In the same way a rat with a pleasure button does, Chris will keep pressing whatever buttons help him enjoy himself. He used vibrators until people said "That is homosexual", and so he 'publically' stops. It's possible (or even likely) he privately continues, because his hatred of being called homosexual may not be the fear of being called homosexual, it may be lingering fear of the social insult of being called gay in school.

User talk:Borednewb

2010-07-22T11:15:45Z

Borednewb:

==Unified theory of Chris==

Fistly, I must say I immensely enjoyed your analyses of Chris - thank you for posting them, they've given me a lot more to think about in my own analysis of him.

However, I'm a bit wary of your description of him as a "socially inept wanna-be-manipulative sociopath autistic".

I am admittedly no expert, but from what I understand:

* lack of empathy has been (not intrinsically) linked to Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). (''There is some debate about that, though - I just found [http://www.grasp.org/media/empathy.pdf an article] written by a person with Asperger's about the "myth" of lack of empathy in autistics; wherein the author proposes there is not a general lack of empathy, but rather an inability to react appropriately, due to the inability to correctly interpret and react to social cues.'')

* Manipulative behaviour has also been noted in ASD.

* Even by your own definition, autistic = socially inept

Now, I'm not saying Chris is allowed to use this as justification for his, admittedly, more self-serving behaviours, and I do realise that he's nearly thirty years old and should take more responsibility for his actions (and should have "memorised" more socially acceptable responses by now), but I think all these labels of him as "sociopathic" and "narcissistic" (as I've seen elsewhere on the site), are character flaws that are more in-tie with his autism than anything else and can be rather...harsh, taken out of context.

I also feel he is largely a victim of circumstance - from his parents refusing to "give him over" to the mental health care he needed (needs?) back in 4th grade, to his current lack of normal social interaction, he's never learnt how to respond appropriately by observing other people or by being taught and assisted by a professional (who would know how to work with someone with ASD). I believe his parents' actions and misconceptions (i.e. about mental health care) are largely the cause for Chris's current level of ineptitude. I also somehow doubt the actions of all the trolls are improving his construct for what "normal" social interaction is, but that's another matter.

All in all, I don't believe Chris is exempt from the expectation to behave more appropriately socially merely because he is autistic, but I think the impairments he has due to his autism should be given at least some further consideration.

Not making sense, as usual, I guess (sorry), [[User:Sussuro|Sussuro]] 08:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

==My thoughts==
No, I think you're making a fair bit of sense actually, and I enjoyed reading it. I do however disagree that the trolling doesn't help Chris; basically any time Chris puts his foot on anything (Youtube, Flipnote Hatena, anything), he is immediately beset by trolls. They make his existence painful for him to endure, because they know exactly what to do to press his buttons. The trolls force Chris into the real world, which he is doing, which is:

a) A good thing for Chris, ultimately, since people learn only from mistakes and he can't make them if he's a shut-in.
b) A bad thing for the citizens of Charlottesville, since Chris is a cancer that harasses women and aggravates men.

I am of the opinion that keeping Chris flailing around on the internet is a community service. It's basically a prison; he can't hurt anyone there, and the trolls he scream at find his antics only amusing, rather than hurtful. I actually do believe Chris causes a great deal of negativity in his community; his actions at the recent Friday After Five show this (especially with the throwing rocks around). He is mentally ill. He should be removed from his community and be placed into the care of the state. When his parents die, unless there is a massive sea-change in the way he thinks and acts (unlikely), this will almost certainly happen.

Indirectly the trolling helps Chris, but unless they can keep him focused on the Internet, it harms the broader community. I don't want another Wallflower/Megan, although I accept that almost nothing anyone can do can stop it, only minimise the chance of it happening. Considering we've only had one Wallflower to our knowledge since the trolls began trolling, I'd say they're doing a fairly good job so far, but recent events such as his drinking, bar hopping, concert attending (etc) mean that Chris will probably 'strike' again. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== My Two Cents ==

Chris's autism makes it difficult for him to pick up on social cues. Chris's narcissism makes him think he's better than everybody else. But I think it's the combination of those two aspects that's responsible for his more insane or disturbing antics.

We've all been at points in our lives where we want something, but lack the ability to obtain it. The only way to get whatever it is is to learn how other people did it and follow their lead. A kid going to a new school will learn how to fit in by watching the way the other kids act. If you drag a socially awkward person out clubbing with you a few times, he'll watch other people and figure how they get hot girls to grind them. When we realize our current skills are inadequate, we figure out the proper behavior and imitate it.

Chris's autism makes it difficult for him to pick up on social cues, but I think his narcissism might prevent him from even trying. He goes out to places like Fridays after Five or whatever his preferred bar is, sees people acting and reacting in ways he doesn't quite understand, and says "Fuck it, my idea is better anyways because I'm a genius." Then begins attraction signs, the red string of love, a want woman bra, pelting people with fucking rocks or whatever. His autism makes it hard for him to understand how other people do it, and his egotism makes him convinced he doesn't ''need'' to.

I'm not saying Ronichu is wrong, because Ronichu and I love each other and one day we're gonna to run away together and live in a house by the sea, but getting Chris outside might not good for Chris at all. Chris was out and about for years before ED found out about him and he became shackled to the internet, and all that resulted in was huge loads of attraction signs and other equally unique ways of trying to get girls. Getting Chris off the internet doesn't "help" him, it just changes his location.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== This feels like a psychology forum ==

Well, I don't expect Chris to change much anymore, mostly due to his own arrogance, as Beat said, and also because he's just a lost cause all round if you ask me; and I agree that I'd rather read about him making an ass of himself on the internet than him going outside to chase and/or throw rocks at helpless girls - but all I'm saying is that perhaps the trolling could on some level be normalising more reprehensible behaviour for him - if he is even aware of enough to notice something other than that it briefly caused him some pain.

Although a lot of his behaviour is already rather reprehensible, maybe reinforcing that trolling is something people typically do can't particularly be considered "helping". I doubt he'll employ any behaviours he might've learnt from any of his trolls, as that would involve some initiative on his part and doesn't really result in some "reward" for him, and also because he evidently understands that trolling is "bad" (but only when it's against him, one could argue).

But yeah, letting Chris run around wild in the streets of Charlottesville at this point could probably scar several innocent bystanders for life, so him staying locked in his filthy lair is probably the best outcome until he is taken away and institutionalised - especially since alcohol is now a factor. (I hadn't considered that point before, to be honest)

My posts are just my opinion, however, I haven't been following Chris for all that long and I'm only a second year Psych student, so I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about anyways...sorry.

Also, as long as the trolls don't go around forcing shitloads of nudes from him to plaster the CWCki with, I remain neutral as to whether they continue to troll him...I still mostly enjoy his responses to being trolled, at any rate.
[[User:Sussuro|Sussuro]] 17:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== Quick response while I'm supposed to be working ==

I'll prefix this with the statement that I have no real psych qualifications, and most of my rantings are more about gut instinct and reasoning than any form of academically sound studies.

In general I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said, Sussuro, since it makes a lot of sense. But keep in mind that Chris' lack of empathy goes far deeper than merely being unable to read social cues. In one of his early videos when he was told he was responsible for someone's decision to commit suicide there was NO sign of remorse in any way, rather he just seemed impressed with his own power. Throughout all of Chris' social interactions he seems to be dominated by a means-end calculation, he doesn't view people as people in their own right, more like NPCs in a computer game.

Although food for thought that I've wanted to expand upon but have been unsure as to how: Look up Kohlberg's stages of moral development. As a psych student you're probably familiar with them, but for any others reading here is a quick overview. There are three stages of moral development. The first is held by children, wherein their entire moral decision making is "What is in it for me?", a combination of "if I do X action, will I benefit?" and "If I do X action, will I be punished?" The second is a more developed view where moral stances are held because they have been taught, you have grown up with those moral ideas and hold on to them as 'right'. The final stage is where the individual uses their own logic and reasoning to determine what they believe is a morally right action.

Read through that, and I'm very certain most people will agree Chris falls firmly into stage 1. Chris has the morality of a child, and shows no sign of developing that. Make of it what you will, I'm uncertain where/if it can be used on the cwcki.
-- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 04:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Nothing wrong with feeling like a psych forum ==

In fact, trying to decipher the complex web of fail that is Chris is much more satisfying than just calling him a homo furfag retard.

That said, I really like your thesis, which points towards a trend that we've suspected all along: That autism alone is insufficient in explaining his constant failures, and that there is one or more intervening factor, namely his shitty parenting, narcissism, sociopathy, delusion...

Your arguments explain very nicely how Chris believes something becomes true just by saying it. It's analogous to your Sonic example: If there is a single factor (The Sonic show is for children/Chris stands for TRUTH and HONESTY), then it defines the entire surrounding context (everything involving Sonic is appropriate for children/anything said by Chris must be true) regardless of contravening factors.

I've offered an additional angle on my userpage. I can reproduce it here if you don't feel like going to my page, but essentially it (half-jokingly) hypothesizes that Chris may additionally suffer from schizophrenia, or even dissociative identity disorder. The fact that he takes his dreams as prophecy only leads credence to the former.

Keep it up. It's something I'd like to see expanded. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 02:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, I wanted to comment on the Monty Python thing. If what you're saying is true (and it probably is), then Chris would, for example, not appreciate the key points of what makes the "My Hovercraft is Filled with Eels" sketch so iconic: Its use of a "lost in translation"/"culture shock" trope, expressing sexually-charged lines in a completely oblivious deadpan, and just a little bit of xenophobia. Instead, Chris just hears that one oh-so-random line done in a funny accent thinks it's a fucking riot. I would also venture to guess he's never seen Life of Brian, either, as that movie is much less dependent on non-sequiter as comedic device. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 03:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

IRT your remarks on my page, which I have reproduced here for your convenience:
:You may have a point on the Simonla issue. If we're to take the simplest explanation (Chris is a selfish liar), it's probably another spur-of-the moment excuse to Evan, worded poorly because he assumes the latter is as childish/retarded as he is and will buy the argument. On the other hand, Chris has demonstrated repeated behavior showing that he believes his fantasy world is real. Also unaddressed is how Chris is not quite aware that he is the mouthpiece for his creations. By saying "Sonichu and Rosechu can go justify themselves", Chris demonstrates that he thinks that without the intervening factor of himself, his creations will go tell off Clyde and Miyamoto-sama.
:This goes beyond pure escapism, where CWCville is a place where he is in control of everything; this goes to show you that he feels CWCville and its related denizens are not only completely autonomous and able to interact with the outside world, but subject to the alterations and damages of others. Which is why feels he must "correct" the others' actions that threaten his idyllic paradise. It's not simply a matter of "fuck you trolls, I'll just act as if did nothing to CWCville," he has to rectify these slanderous mockeries in his pages, and additionally assure his readers (read: himself) that no major damage was done.
:The other point of "other people as real as cartoons" brings us right back to his sociopathy. Other people are merely as cartoon characters to be manipulated in the grand narrative of Chris's life. As [[Excel Saga|Great Director Chandler]], he believes other people will bend to his desires solely due to that "fact". He not only wants CWCville under his control, but also the real world. This squares nicely with his fear of losing control.
:One more revealing thing: Chris confessed in the comic pages that in high school, he would read R.L. Stine novels and imagine Sonic characters to be in their place. (This was probably well before Sonic degenerated into a recolor shitfest.) This shows that he can't even relate to ''fantasy'' humans on the account of being human (and not his own creation), and must imagine them as cartoon furries. (This might also explain why in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], he and Ivy fucking in their Chu forms... as well why he imagined himself in his Chu form in his own sexual fantasies with some other woman he was cybering that I can't name at the moment.) Coupled with his (possibly feigned possibly genuine) concern for the welfare of Asperchu ("He won't like having da Assburgers!) and Wild ("He'll be left all by his lonsome without Simonla!"), this shows that Chris is capable of empathy - for anthropomorphic cartoon characters, not humans. Or then again, maybe not: He might just be confusing his own selfish desires for concern for these furry creatures, like he does with real people all the time. That might explain the Simonla/Wild thing, which amounts to a control issue, but not the Asperchu/Mitch thing.
:Again, nothing really that new, just more evidence for your thesis. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 16:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Have you considered this angle? ===
I've tried to distill some of Chris's idiosyncracies into one statement:

'''Chris believes that words hold more power than actions or facts.'''

To normal people, it's the precise opposite; Words are absolutely empty unless backed by evidence or accompanying action. However, for Chris, he only needs to ''say'' something and it'll be taken as truth, regardless of anything to the contrary. This is how he is constantly able to be a [[hypocrisy|hypocrite]] and yet remain oblivious. The Asperpedia saga being played out in the comics illustrates this. A normal person would be bewildered that the many apologetic words to Alec and Co. are paired with the depiction of their mutilation. Not so Chris: he thinks that making those words of apology is sufficient for everyone to understand that he has genuinely apologized, which means they won't notice him indulging his sick fantasies of executing the Asperpedia Four. While the rest of the world sees through this as insincere (with quite a bit of cognitive dissonance), he probably TRULY and HONESTLY believes he was being sincere.

It is also why he is able to lie with impunity: by making a statement, it is automatically true, regardless of the facts it is based on. Possibly to him, they're not lies, but simply assertions of the truth in his (constantly changing to fit his wants) world.

The icing on the cake is the Chris Categorical Imperative that you stated. It is not simply ''anyone's'' words that hold power over their actions and the facts, but ''his words alone''. However, consistent with fears of losing control, Chris may believe that when some got-dang dirty troll makes a slanderous mockery of him, he fears that the troll's words will hold power over him and become truth, and must respond to validate his own truth, usually in the form of tard rage.

The "distilled statement" is not exactly a fully-developed gloss, but if this is already in your thesis, please point it out. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 07:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You're definately on the money with the statement about the power Chris puts into words. I honestly believe that Chris does not differentiate between words and reality. I can stand up in a crowded area and proclaim myself gay, without actually worrying about how that may influence my sexuality because I know there is a difference between a statement and fact. Chris, however, can only bring himself to state that he is gay if he is surrounded by what he believes count as proof of heterosexuality. This has two possible implications.

1. Chris is incredibly self conscious about what people think about him. While it COULD be right (he often seems to justify himself, look up his videos where he justifies his low fitness in "Sonichu's Edge", or the one where he justifies shitting himself), I do not believe this is the case. Chris just does too much random shit without seeming to care how other people view it.
2. Chris believes that a statement makes something true. By stating that he is gay, unless he somehow undermines it he actually BECOMES Gay. To use a childish metaphor, it is as if in Chris' mind every statement is backed up by a parent saying something is true "because I say so". Why do we cross the road when the light is green? Because I say so. Why am I straight? Because I say so.

In general, you seem to be fairly on the money. Chris MUST refute the slanderous statements trolls make about him, otherwise in his childish viewpoint they become fact. Of course, he seems to have abandoned this perspective in recent times, leaving the trolls to say what they will. It seems that Chris has an inherent respect and desire for an authority over him to tell him what to do. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 11:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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{{Welcome|CrassCrab}}[[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 18:11, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Yo. ==

I'm in your userpage, liking your edits. Good job. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sure. ==
I'll put the shoops up again. Do you have a preference for any specific filesharing service or not? [[User:Xentrilus|Xentrilus]] 20:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Since you asked for it, here's the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/408070906/Storyboard_Collection_1.zip The file is quite big though, my apologies. It'll go up on the yt vid page shortly. [[User:Xentrilus|Xentrilus]] 23:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Some of your writing ==
"He wants to identify as a woman attracted to women despite being sexed male."
An interesting thought, but I struggle to find it really convincing yet. I find it easy to think of Chris as having poor concept of gender distinction. Do we know if Bob was ever working during Chris' childhood? It does sound from some of the articles as if Bob has always been retired, but it is difficult to tell. Chris has never had the classic, cliche "Man is the breadwinner while woman minds the home". If the house is any example, Barbara is horrible at looking after the home, and Bob has just enough old school in him to view the housework as the 'womans duty'. Chris' entire knowledge of what makes up man and woman is "Men are mean to me" (Bob has no hesitation to talk down to him, and I imagine he was bullied in school by physically superior male students), and "Women look after me" (his 'gal pals' and his coddling mother). I have little difficulty in imagining Chris views women as the better gender than men, and Chris is always willing to be on the winning side.

Also: "This, of course, implies that Chris interacts with the characters on a daily basis and is constantly in contact with them. One could only shudder at the manchild speaking into thin air, asking an invisible Sonichu how his family is doing."
Honestly while I find that image hilarious, I find it easier to believe that it's more of an escapism dream-world than Chris picking up his mobile and thinking it's Sonichu on the other end. The city of Cwcville is his perfect little escapism from his real life, it's a place where he is in control, where he wins, where he is loved. Hell, one of the reasons he probably thinks of himself as so kind is the fact that he matches everyone up perfectly in Cwcville so they all get to go home and have sex.

The reason this is important is because in the face of so much evidence to the contrary, not even Chris can believe he is in control of the real world. So when faced with situations like "No Chris, you can't keep my character, I'm taking her back", he will claim that in his world she doesn't want to leave.

Of course, this then goes into somewhat more concerning issues, like the idea that to Chris, other people are potentially as 'real' as cartoon characters. That could be because he has little ability to distinguish between fact and fiction, it could be because he views cartoon characters as things that must be real because they walk and talk (and apparently to him his drawings are photo-real), or even because he has so little ability to empathise with real people, they're as fake as cartoon characters appear to be.
--[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 12:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

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== Pink thing on his wrist? ==
What is that pink thing on his right wrist? It looks too big to be an entry wristband (plus no one else seems to be wearing them), and it's not in the photos of him at FAF the second time. I can't even see signs of it being a wristwatch (no obvious clockface). Anyone have any idea, or is it just unimportant? -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 10:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

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So what information do we have so far on this shit? We know he's asking for bonus material, and we know he's posting on GameFaqs about it. Anything else?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

He put like 8-16 screencaps of his Sonichu kart and devoted an entire CWCipedia update to this. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 02:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:Before or after the Archive Cogs made, because if after, then good luck finding it now.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::Here: http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Original_CCWC_Art - he considers this "original art". Basically he has a yellow car with his initials on him and has made a racer with a slight resemblance to him. This is from the beta, so who knows what kind of crap he's made since the game has been released. I'm going to put one screencap in the article and leave it at that. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== Dear God... ==

I had a feeling that Chris would get his hands on ModNation Racers. God knows what crap he'll put up on the Internet...--SpaceScreaminJohn 14:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== He has his Beta Track Up ==

As well as some actually neatly recreated Hot Wheels vehicles. He locked a couple of them; the manchild must have Favorited those TWO cars from his collection. LOL His track is lengthy, and confusing, but I managed to run some laps on it. And he added a good version of the Park with a fountain, and a Beach.

Download his Beta Cwcville Track for the laughs of using the defaulted Beta Tools.--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 22:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

:I think "manbaby" is more appropriate than "manchild", given that he soils himself so much. But anyway, thanks for keeping us updated on his movements and activities. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 22:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

::I was watching an episode of Ghost Adventures and they were in this haunted mansion/abandoned hospital place, and there was a ghost there that they called the 'manbaby', and I kept thinking 'lolchris' [[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 23:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

:I don't have a copy of ModNation or a PS3, so is there any way you could make a video of the new tracks and provide some commentary? That would be great! --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 23:10, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

::I agree with Anaconda here. I would love to download his track for laughs of using defaulted Beta Tools, but I do not have the game. If you would upload a video of them, Jinkies, I'm sure it would contribute Greatly to the LULZ. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 00:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:::We should probably handle this like we handle the LBP levels, get some screenshots and summaries up on the page. Jenkins, you're the only one that's played them so far, would you mind adding the level names and a brief description of each to the page?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

:I wouldn't call anything the manbaby did "good" or "neatly recreated", since he has never had an original thought in his tiny retarded brain. Except the attraction sign, and we all know how that turned out. That, and it probably is a piece of crap like his other stuff. I would like to see it, too. I second the video idea. --[[User:Mp83|Mp83]] 00:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Who gives a shit about this bullshit except for how much money Chris is blowing on this. seriously, he spends so much money. I remember during the GoW bullshit that he spent like 20 bucks on stupid dlc. i bet he's already lost like 30 bucks trying to get those mystery mods or whatever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pictures of his shitty creations? ==

On his profile page there are images of his shitty creations. Should they be screencapped and put in this article for future reference in case he leaves Modnation? I'm grabbing pictures of them now, but I know shit all about editing wikis and how to put them in the article neatly. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 03:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

: The reason I suggest it is that despite abandoning things like the Sonichu medallion, he still insists on putting his bullshit creations everywhere. One of his cars is even SonChu for fucks sake. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 03:51, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

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Borednewb: Small addition.

So what information do we have so far on this shit? We know he's asking for bonus material, and we know he's posting on GameFaqs about it. Anything else?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

He put like 8-16 screencaps of his Sonichu kart and devoted an entire CWCipedia update to this. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 02:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:Before or after the Archive Cogs made, because if after, then good luck finding it now.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::Here: http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Original_CCWC_Art - he considers this "original art". Basically he has a yellow car with his initials on him and has made a racer with a slight resemblance to him. This is from the beta, so who knows what kind of crap he's made since the game has been released. I'm going to put one screencap in the article and leave it at that. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== Dear God... ==

I had a feeling that Chris would get his hands on ModNation Racers. God knows what crap he'll put up on the Internet...--SpaceScreaminJohn 14:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== He has his Beta Track Up ==

As well as some actually neatly recreated Hot Wheels vehicles. He locked a couple of them; the manchild must have Favorited those TWO cars from his collection. LOL His track is lengthy, and confusing, but I managed to run some laps on it. And he added a good version of the Park with a fountain, and a Beach.

Download his Beta Cwcville Track for the laughs of using the defaulted Beta Tools.--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 22:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

:I think "manbaby" is more appropriate than "manchild", given that he soils himself so much. But anyway, thanks for keeping us updated on his movements and activities. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 22:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

::I was watching an episode of Ghost Adventures and they were in this haunted mansion/abandoned hospital place, and there was a ghost there that they called the 'manbaby', and I kept thinking 'lolchris' [[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 23:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

:I don't have a copy of ModNation or a PS3, so is there any way you could make a video of the new tracks and provide some commentary? That would be great! --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 23:10, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

::I agree with Anaconda here. I would love to download his track for laughs of using defaulted Beta Tools, but I do not have the game. If you would upload a video of them, Jinkies, I'm sure it would contribute Greatly to the LULZ. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 00:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:::We should probably handle this like we handle the LBP levels, get some screenshots and summaries up on the page. Jenkins, you're the only one that's played them so far, would you mind adding the level names and a brief description of each to the page?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

:I wouldn't call anything the manbaby did "good" or "neatly recreated", since he has never had an original thought in his tiny retarded brain. Except the attraction sign, and we all know how that turned out. That, and it probably is a piece of crap like his other stuff. I would like to see it, too. I second the video idea. --[[User:Mp83|Mp83]] 00:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Who gives a shit about this bullshit except for how much money Chris is blowing on this. seriously, he spends so much money. I remember during the GoW bullshit that he spent like 20 bucks on stupid dlc. i bet he's already lost like 30 bucks trying to get those mystery mods or whatever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pictures of his shitty creations? ==

On his profile page there are images of his shitty creations. Should they be screencapped and put in this article for future reference in case he leaves Modnation? I'm grabbing pictures of them now, but I know shit all about editing wikis and how to put them in the article neatly. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 03:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
* The reason I suggest it is that despite abandoning things like the Sonichu medallion, he still insists on putting his bullshit creations everywhere. One of his cars is even SonChu for fucks sake. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 03:51, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

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== Since I've been gone ==

I was in the hospital for a few days and apparently, shit came up. Looks like shit was settled though...or was it? Your thoughts, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Define "shit" Champ. Shit as in Chris's madness on flipnote, shit as in the Asperpedia hack, or shit as in Alex being a retard? In any case, nothing was settled. At all. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Mostly agree; Chris has been typical Chris on Flipnote and Asperpedia is still being fucking weird, but 16BitAlex is gone, and BabyNeko left as well in a flurry of drama, so that specific shit has settled for the moment. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Well, BabyNeko is gone. But Alex certainly is not. He said he was going, but like certain other manchildren before him, he is continueing to frequent that which he said he would leave forever, posting more bullshit about apples and his racist views on asian women or some shit like that. I have no clue what he's really saying. He used to make sense, and then his language just devolved into retarded babbling. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
**I removed my "retarded babbling". --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 00:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
***Your "DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING" tactic just makes you look worse, you know.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 01:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*Typical garden-variety madness, nothing serious. I wish you a speedy recovery. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Faggots did drama, Chris kept on being Chris. Hope whatever hospitalized you wasn't too serious and that you get well soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
beat said it best. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

==Long time, no see==

I was reading an issue of Rolling Stone yesterday, and I found out that California rejected funding for an IRL homosexuality "cure". Wouldn't it be fun if we told Chris about this, just for his reaction? Guys? --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 15:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

:Possibly. Actually, the way things are going now, he could start building an actual political platform that would include anti-badmouthing, homo vaccines, and dating education. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== 16bitfaggot B& BryanBash ==

I am a humble user, barely making edits and staying out of this petty drama. But this is far, far more of a crime than I can let go by unpunished. Ban this faggot.--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

What the fuck happened? I'm a bit out of the loop. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

*16bitAlex is being lame. Unfortunately, it's the poisonous kind of lame that compels others to act lame in a display of how much they hate him. At least I think that's what's going on.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
**That's about right. I forget where it started, but you can see a lot of it on Delabonte's page. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
***My personal justification is that I needed a reason to act like a fag to somebody, and to put it bluntly, he's the perfect excuse. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
****What did your girlfriend break up with you, and now you're hiding your secret pain by lashing out on the internet? I realize he's being a moron and I'm honestly shocked he hasn't been banned yet, but you guys have managed to fill the entire recent changes page with your little bitch fight against him on multiple occasions. That shit is just sad.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Haven't had a girlfriend in months. Sorry about the recent changes thing, I guess it didn't occur to me that that was the case. I came here back in January primarily as a troll, and I hadn't done any trolling here yet. Call me immature, but it was doing what I came here to do, and it was satisfying. Seems like it's just about blown over now though, so I'll resume normal editing duties shortly. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:57, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
******Sorry about clogging the first page of recent changes on your website dedicated to documenting everything a 28 year old manbaby has ever done. Seriously, fucking relax. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
*******I actually did want to stay out of the drama. I just posted a single comment on Delabonte's page telling Alex to abandon his account and just set up a new online identity. I just wanted to end this shit. Unfortunatly, he instead went on to cause more drama, and it pissed me off to the point I became an active participant. Well, i've learned my lesson now; Never try to white knight for anybody. If they are being trolled then they probably deserve it. I'm sorry for being a faggot everyone. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 10:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Times Square Billboard Images ==

Where on the cwcki can I view them?
[[User:BigDipper|BigDipper]] 19:20 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*They're here - http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/20_December_2009 [[User:Irenicus|Irenicus]] 11:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ok... ==
You know what I hate more than anything else in the world? Gary Oak. Gary motherfucking Oak and the 500 motherfucking server error. Now, I know that the people in charge probably won't listen to this suggestion. I know it'd cause a lot of trouble to actually do it. I know that there is most likely some reason why we haven't already done it. But i'm not 100% certain, so i'm gonna throw this suggestion out there in the vain hope that someone sees it and either does it or at least explains why we can't;

Why don't we move CWCki to the Hsienko servers that Asperpedia is hosted on?

Because I NEVER have any of this shit when doing stuff there. Not once. Ever. At all.

Over there, internal server errors do not exist.

Just throwing it out there. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
*Having just received the 500 error (while logging in, no less), I like this idea.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 23:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)==
*And now the errors are getting worse. Are they trying to tell us something?-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
**I think today the website is just more stressed than usual. It's what motivated me to post. I was getting so fucking many on recent changes all the time. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::*The 500 errors are becoming infuriatingly common, but I'm thinking there has to be a fix that doesn't involve moving the whole site.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Contact Info ==
I've got an idea that will probably elicit no reaction whatever from Chris but has to be worth a try. But he's always abandoning accounts and changing his email. Does anyone have his most up-to-date email address? Does anyone know if he still even checks it anymore? I know he said he was giving up internet, but he's still on Flipnote, so you never know. Thanks a million and Happy Canada Day! --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 19:34 1 July 2010 CEST

: chrischansonichu@aol.com is and always has been his email account. These days he barely checks it and doesn't reply to anything, so best of luck; I've been bombarding it on and off from various email accounts ever since Sydney got through, but not even a single bite. Emailing Chris at this point is like pissing into an ocean of piss. p.s if your idea is 'pretend to be Megan, pretend to be a girl interested in him, say you dug up patti,pretend you are someone impossible (such as Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)), then I can safely say it won't work. Good luck though. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:03, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

==I MAD==

Okay, so the 'fan videos' is a cool and entertaining feature that can spice up a boring video page. Like all good ideas, however, something fucktarded has to come along. In this case, I'm talking about the utterly moronic practice of inserting videos that are either unrelated to the topic at hand, not actual Chris videos, or both. I'm not going to point any fingers namely because I've been gone forever and I'm not going to search through histories. Does a video with 'hurr durr i edited clips to make chris say he's gay' belong in the middle of the [[homos]] article? Does [[Sweetheart]] need some totally fucking irrelevant mashup at the top of the page?

At best, this is a misguided attempt at transplanting in humor. At worst, it's namefaggotry. I'm going to be weeding out this crap but it would be nice if certain people actively avoided this level of dumbfuckery. Put fan videos in a segment labeled fan videos, and maybe explain how the fuck it's relevant to the article.

/rage rage rage rage --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

:Aren't we a little overzealous? Granted, some videos are useless, but '''we have a fan video template.''' Just get rid of the useless ones and fix the ones that stay. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

:*Essentially, that's what I want, for people to use the template and make sure the video is appropriate. You just said it without all my impotent NERD RAAAAAAAGE. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:31, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I've seen this shit around too, didn't know it was an issue. I'll keep an eye out in case someone adds that sort of thing in from now on. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 04:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I see what you're getting at. I think there are quite a few pages where there's far too many fan videos. A secondary goal of the CWCki which hasn't been quite elaborated on formally is that it should serve to preserve trolling culture and our collective trolling heritage that surrounds Chris. Personally, I think a fan video should only be included in an article if 1) it is notable in itself (see Vivian G's "DYKES DYKES CHINA," for instance) or 2) it illustrates a point clearly (can't think of a good example at the moment). In any case, it should be done sparingly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Why I've banned 16BitAlex ==

When I was 4 or so, I had an NES when it was still pretty new and my babysitter loved playing it. One time, my mom took away the NES from me because my babysitter was so enamored with the NES, she would forget to, you know, watch me. It's something like that.

I really didn't follow shit he did closely because Chris is enough drama to follow. 16BitAlex seemed to be causing drama that was counter productive to the CWCki's goal of documenting the life and times of Christian Weston Chandler.

It looks like he himself tried to ban himself and so I took it upon myself to do the job right for him. Alex, if you're reading this, you are free to appeal this ban. Likewise, he is free to create a new account and start life anew on the CWCki, provided he will not delve too much into his personal life and stay focused on just editing the CWCki.

I am really sick of this drama, not so much from CWCki editors but people like Clyde, and I'm afraid the only feasible solution I have was to remove Alex and in a way that was also to protect him because God damn, he is such a damn ass pie.

Now let's get back to work, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I officially declare the first Church of Champthom open. Praise the Lord, for we have been saved! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I'm glad you took care of this. Really, I'm surprised why none of the other admins stepped in. I guess they just wanted to see the drama unfold. Hopefully this will ''finally'' die down. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 15:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*Champ, you are hot. I want you. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*Me too! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*This is a good thing. The best thing, even.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I want to suck your big dick Champthom and have you come all over my face. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*Perhaps it's that I haven't slept since Thursday afternoon, but the NES analogy is going way over my head. Still, I'm glad to see it over, even if I was a contributor. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 05:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:The babysitter (CWCki editors) was playing the NES (messing with Alex) instead of doing her job and watching baby Champ. (obsessively chronicling the day to day life of an autistic manchild)--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 16:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*Thank GodBearJesus that crap is over.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 06:09, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*To be honest I do think this 16BitAlex drama was creating confusion and chaos in the wiki. As much as I'd like to have trolled him, we do have to find a better place to do it. It was starting to get like an angry shouting match in broad daylight in the middle of a mall D: -- [[User:Da Nuke|Da_Nuke the Nucular Raeg Bomb]] 04:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Very apt. In any case, the point is that Alex himself didn't do anything wrong, per say, only that he was acting in a way that was disruptive as feeding trolls (which, as this wiki serves as a beautiful illustration, is something you just don't do) and I felt it was best for him and this wiki for him to be banned. Anyways, just wanted to clarify that it has nothing to do with me hating Alex or siding with people trolling him, just wanted to get this shit taken care of.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:44, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Whatever your motives, we still love you just as much for actually doing it. The dude really needed to go. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== Chris may be eligible for fraud charges ==

Greetings all. A friend of mine who used to work as paralegal in social security pointed out that Chris may be eligible for fraud charges. I don't know the exact rules myself, but it seems if you're taking the social security fund and, you are not supposed to have 'substantial assets' (that is, in excess of $2000, sans car and house). Seeing Chris' PS3 and list of purchases, he is very likely to have gone through that limit. Unless he could provide evidence that he is disabled for work, he may face up to 10 years in jail for the fraud charge.

The SSA office in charge of Virginia should be 1470 Pantops Mountain Place, Charlottesville - (434) 295-1144 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting (434) 295-1144 end_of_the_skype_highlighting (reopens on 6th of July I heard). I can't report this issue due to me not being a US citizen, so I'm just pointing a possibility here.
*For the love of GodJesus, how hard is it to sign your posts?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 04:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:*We've been over this. He has autism, and apparently that's good enough for the state of Virginia.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Also, he really is too stupid to work--he couldn't even take out the garbage at Wendy's without fucking it up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*Ah, I'm sorry about that, this is my first time using this function of a wiki page--[[User:Xanandar|Xanandar]] 04:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

'''Short answer:''' either you didn't hear your friend correctly, or he's a moron. Chris will never be pulled in on fraud charges.

'''Long answer:''' Assets that would be countable include excess real property, the fair market value of vehicles other than your primary vehicle, balances in savings accounts, excess burial plots, and revocable trusts. Legally, Chris owns very little, his parents owning all the real property (the house and land) and the accounts. Generally, items like TVs and PS3s aren't counted in the count of substantial assets, and oh god the legal shitstorm from revoking SSDI benefits because of DLC would be terrifying. Finally, the defense would have a field day with excuses on why he couldn't have understood the restriction. You might be thinking of "substantial gainful activity" ("SGA"), but that would be work which Chris.....doesn't.

Oh, and '''Supplemental Security Income =/= Social Security Disability Insurance'''. I'm fairly certain Chris receives a check from the latter, so it's more application based than needs based.

-[[User:Jump|attorney at lol]]

Sadly, I think the only thing Chris risks is a weekly follow-up with a social worker. I don't think I will see a judge punishing an autistic manchild on his first fraud offence. I am ready to bet an old 5$ that he will receive no punitive damages at all. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Attention all jerkops ==

Any user who interferes with [[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] is to be banned from the CWCki. This user has provided original information about Chris and Clyde has confirmed this to be a confirmed CWCSighting.

That young, 14 year old boy and his valorous usage of his Nintendo DS to attempt to capture Chris warrants special attention and no one is to interfere with him.

Questions may be directed to me on a one-on-one basis (contact info available on my user page).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== changes i'd like to see ==

so, i'm thinking about remaking the community portal as an actual portal. that is, a place with links to discussion areas for different topics. one of these would be about speculation, which leads me onto my next change: no more speculation in articles, unless it is ''extremely'' related. some articles have way too fucking much armchair psychology, which really has no place in the main namespace. this is an encyclopaedia of facts, not a gigantic talk page, so please confine your guesswork to either article discussion pages(if it is important to improving the article, i.e. decoding/translating chris's bullshit) or the speculation place(once it's made). please discuss how the community portal should be revamped, such as what discussion pages to create. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== MIA Asperpedian ==

I wasn't sure where else to put this, but does anyone know where I can find whoever went by the name "Sans" on Asperpedia? I need to discuss something with him. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== Is it possible to have this screen name deleted? ==

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'd like my screen name deleted if that is possible. [[User:JamieTyler|JamieTyler]] 23:37, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== Favorite Troll Userboxes? ==

Just a suggestion, we have Userboxes for the favorite Chandler cats, but none for one's favorite troll? I just thought it would be a good idea to put out like five for the biggest-names in CWC Trolling (Like Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike...Jimmy Hill?) [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
*I support this. I yearn for some way to show my infinite love of Liquid Chris. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah, forgot about Liquid, but yeah, him too [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 23:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:I feel Liquid would reign supreme. Still, it seems like we're missing a few; does Alec count? [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::I think Alec would count. How about Robert Simmons V or The Man in the Pickle Suit? --[[User:Paperback|Paperback]] 10:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Robert I don't think really warrants his own box. He didn't do a whole lot. I'd like to get a box for Evan if we're doing one for Alec. So, the list so far is Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike, Liquid Chris, Alec, Man In The Pickle Suit, and Evan. Who would be up for making them? [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 14:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::: I'll make them! Do you think there should be userboxes for favorite saga too? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 21:54, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, here's the boxes I've made so far:
*[[Template:ClydeCash|Clyde]]
*[[Template:JackThaddeus|Jack]]
*[[Template:VivianGee|Vivian]]
*[[Template:BlueSpike|BlueSpike]]
*[[Template:LiquidChris‎|Liquid]]

Sorry they're nothing special, feel free to edit them. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 22:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Needs some spicing up, i'll admit. Maybe some text relating to their trolling campaigns? Maybe something like "This user believes in the TRUE and HONEST Liquid Chris" or "This user is a Bluespike fan, and takes delight in Christian's pain" What do you guys think? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry they're so bland. I'm a bit slow-in-the-mind so I can't think of anything witty for them. Those sound good to me!

Oh yeah, and I don't know what picture to use for Alec (there was a nice picture of Asperchu, but it's already used for the Asperpedia template), so I'll skip his box for now. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 00:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:Might I suggest a picture from his appearance in Sonichu? Probably the best we could do other than maybe a different picture of Asperchu.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 00:41, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I added some shit. Feel free to edit. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I made the boxes for [[Template:MPS|the Man in the Pickle Suit]] and [[Template:Evan|Evan]]. I was working on Alec's but [[User:ALBASPERCHU|ALBASPERCHU]] [[Template:AlecBensonLeary|beat me to it]]. Also I think some of them have that annoying white space problem though. Fuuu- --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 01:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

== IBA fucking geneva ==

Is evading every five seconds and needs to be dealt with. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 03:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
: I have perma-banned the creep twice. Fells like a game of "Whack-A-Mole". [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Mighty fine work there, Griffintown.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I am glad to be helpful. Besides, what is the fun in a Wiki without the odd griefer to whack around? :) [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'd hate to be a fag and walk into this, but I was under the impression that we had his dox, so couldn't we just toss them out? If not there's software that lets us track IP and software even when the user is hiding behind Tor so we could just get his dox if we don't have it that way.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 04:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh god damn. The [[User:Pfaggot|name]] of his new account is harassment itself. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
*BTW his Juanbrujo account isn't banned yet. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. Someone needs to deal with this guy. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 14:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Account list:
*IBAgeneva (banned)
*JerryMathers (banned)
*Goyslayer (banned)
*Juanbrujo (banned)
*Pfaggot (banned)
*Herpdederp (banned)
*Derpaherp (banned)
*Greatjollynegro (banned)
*Uhuru (banned)
*Meenween (banned)
*Mrjoo (banned)
*Lawltiger (banned)
*Pewbmonster (banned)
*Niggomalema (banned)
*Mrpillow (banned)
*Farklesparkle (banned)
*Jammastercoon (banned)
*Travislikesbeer (banned)
*CountCockula (banned)
*Lightsideblue (banned)
*BEEEEES (banned)
*Rapeanator (banned)
*Loldongs (banned)
*Thoumad (banned)
*Spocker (banned)
*Dramallama (banned)
TOTAL: 26
[[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 15:45, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Does he think its even funny? Its pathetic and retarded. Maybe the category page shoud just say this person is a faggot.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 03:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Whoever this guy is, it sounds like he's either butthurt or a newfag since he only makes the same edits over and over. He fails as a vandal. Seriously. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:You just don't know how fun this is, buddy. Also, Office Space was ok. Wasn't that great of a movie. :/ --[[User:Uhuru|Uhuru]] 17:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::It's fine we can just drop your dox and we'll see if you still think it's fun then. You know Tor doesn't hide your actual IP when you use these sites, at least not when the right software's around.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::That smacks of some sort of desperation. First of all, I get the hint you are talking out your ass. Second, u mad? --[[User:Mrjoo|Mrjoo]] 19:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
* Actually no, whenever you use Scripts/Flash Tor won't hide your IP, and there are several commercial programs that can track based on that. Try to figure out how your parachute works before you use it Here's a hint: the boxes that enable flash and Java, leave them off. Of course you can't edit if they are off... -[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:You threaten me with dox and you only follow up with an explanation of how you could possibly find my IP address. You kind of fail at being an internet tough guy.--[[User:Pewbmonster|Pewbmonster]] 20:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::people are not acting like an inetrnet though guy, because your retarded fagottry is just annoying instead of infuriating. and dammit choose less retarded sockpuppets, because seriously "pewbmonster"? what are you? 13?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 20:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Cool story bro. I can't account for how old I am but I know [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LU0Q6ONMQY Pfargtl9000] is a little kid. --[[User:Niggomalema|Niggomalema]] 21:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I never threatened, I just said that it's going to happen: it's not just "possibly" find, you've left a big gap and anyone reaasonably skilled and with the software can exploit that. You aren't invisible and there's no reason to why the management wouldn't crank up the rapemachine if you keep trying to act like a big bad troll. You obviously don't know how to vandalize a site, try to know what you're doing before getting smug.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Hey you might want to shorten your post because I don't feel like reading all that. I mean if your full of hot air just say it. I just am not going to bother with your little screeds. --[[User:Niggomalema|Niggomalema]] 21:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::::: Here's the shorter version: Your dox will be posted. and PS: YOu called Pfargt a little kid, but that little kid has shown more maturity than you ever will. you're a lost case.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Sounds like an empty threat, brah. Your IP is (censored). It isn't that big of a deal, is it? --[[User:Loldongs|Loldongs]] 00:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

[http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pfargtl9000&oldid=103044 Will there ever be an end to this?] [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

that's funny, i don't remember giving j0haely or kei any mod priveleges. maybe they should fuck off --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 06:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Congratulations, this is the CWCki staff, a bunch of angsty thirteen year old boys. No wonder this site can't get it's shit together. Some stupid shit happens and all you can do when the mods are afk or just idle, which is most of the time, is have your userbase make empty, childish threats. Why should anyone take this shit seriously anymore? This is all one big joke. It's like this site is run by the New*Furry*Military. --[[User:Spocker|Spocker]] 15:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Enjoy your ban. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Enjoying every minute of it. --[[User:Dangerman|Dangerman]] 15:59, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Then why do you keep coming back? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
: I never mentioned i had mod priviledges. i just find this petty bullshit annoying.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 16:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

It's always good to see another /cwc/ guy on, keeping it interesting. I think everyone (well, save for cogs) is taking this dude a bit too seriously. He's just fucking around, not even really vandalizing. Chill, niggers. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:I love a good game of "Whack-A-Mole". Quite relaxing. Looks like I have a partner for the next few days. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't take it so seriously, but it's like having to put up with a spoiled toddler throwing a tantrum. It's pretty obnoxious. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 16:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Would someone please tell me why IP banning him and preventing account creation is so hard to do? I've done that sort of stuff on the Asperpedia when banning random vandals, and from what I've seen it's as simple as clicking two boxes. So what's the problem here then? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I think this guy deserves his own article [[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 19:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Furfags and furfag sympathizers on cwcki? Still? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]], we know you're a fucking faggot who defends furniggers, etc. Get skype, pm me your skype on irc (I'm Krapple_Guy), and we'll settle this there. Do it plz, dramawhore. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 19:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:No. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Also, does it look like you have the power to force furries off the CWCki? If so, when did you get that pow- oh wait, '''you never had that power.''' Seeing how you are applying Legi0n's rules to a completely different website that doesn't use those rules, you are just making yourself look like an ''ass''. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Really? Is that what this is about? Furfags? Come on guys. This subject is so old that it's rotting. If you really have that much of a problem with them, then troll them on Youtube. It's much easier, you'd get banned less often, and it'd save grief for both the Krapple trolls and the CWCki. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:It seems like the only thing we can't insult is /cwc/, and if we do it we're basically labeled as "niggers" and "furfags". So, [[wikipedia:BioShock|would you kindly]] fuck off? (message not directed towards Edward) [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:Umm no. We at Legi0n really don't give two shits if you insult /cwc/. Feel free to insult it all you want. Thats not the point (a point you are avoiding btw). Point is, Pfargtl9000, you've defended known furfags on cwcki at least twice. [[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|Ed]] the sonicfag furrfag and [[User:MaxTehManyula|Max]] the pokemon fetishist furfag.

{{quote|Hi. In case you ask, I am a furry, more precisely a Pokefur. I am quite pissed that Chris is digging my fandom into a bigger hole every day.|[[User:MaxTehManyula|Max]]}}

Need I say more? Now then P, get skype and we'll talk. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 20:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I fucking already read that before you put it up in HUEG XBOX quotes. Thing is, I don't give two shits about what he is, unlike you. And one last thing; I'm not going into Skype. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Pfargtl9000's thing is that he loves to bitch and moan to the mods. He was continually trying to start drama on the cwcki because the idea of any form of fursecution makes his ass pucker. He also loves to raeg on this wiki through the use of rainbowtext and setting up his permaban template on the pages of new members that he perceives to be sock accounts with no proof whatsoever. It's rather funny that I'm able to get the cwcki staff to intimidate new users. --[[User:Dramallama|Dramallama]] 20:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

What do furries, or any of this, have to do with Christian Chandler? Im not even sure what we are trying to accomplish now...[[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 21:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Absolutly nothihg. Pfargtl9000 is just causing a lot of drama because he's a faggot. I told him me & the guys from /cwc/ would be willing to settle things with him outside of cwcki (skype), but he refuses to listen and wants to use cwcki as his shield/personal army. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 21:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:It's accomplishing nothing; this is an open-and-shut case of vandalism and flame wars. We all know Cogs' policy; she doesn't care what you do as long as you don't bring faggotry to her site. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 21:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Agreed. Again, I told Pfargtl9000 that we'd be willing to settle all this via skype (and outside of cwcki), but he refuses. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 21:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::It is possible that he either doesent want skype or feels that it is too personal (voice, real name, ect.) If Pfargt thinks that the cwcki is his 'personal army' then there is probably something the cwckians could do to help if help is needed?[[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 21:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Look here guiz, this is accomplishing nothing. We are all just arguing over internet politics right now, and we've gone WAY off topic. Pfargtl's faggotry is another issue altogether, as are furries and people's opinions of /cwc/. Right now, I just want a ceasefire in this fucking edit war so that we can go back to researching and documenting the life of a 28 year old fat man from Virginia, and preferably either one side or the other to shut up on the subject of whatever the fuck Pfargtl is doing now as well, preferrably whichever one it was that started all this bullshit. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Game Place page vandalism ==

Some dickweed keeps editing the Game Place page to claim that someone's a sex offender. Can we ban him?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

*From the information posted, I'd say it's relevant. Why not leave it up? [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 22:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
**Did this guy ever interact with Chris? If the answer is no, then it's ''not'' relevant.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
**:Trombonista is completely right. I don't know how many times it has to get pointed out, but the CWCki is. About. Chris. Nobody else. If the guy's record relates to Chris or whatever, then that is relevant. Otherwise, purge with fire. The CWCki is nobody's personal army. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 00:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
***: Well why be so protective of a child molester? If someone plans to go that store or praise it as a result of the articles and confrontations between Snyder and Chris, why not let them know the facts about that store? The CWCki has tons of information regarding all the other institutions and establishments Chris has gone to. But I digress, this wiki isn't really meant to be taken seriously. After all, some of the articles like [[6_June_2010|this one]] are based on hearsay, conjecture, and a terrible misinterpretation of events. All of sudden, this all becomes srs bsns because the fact of a pedophile owning a store which children frequent is too much for you guys to handle. Take a chill pill. --[[User:Thoumad|Thoumad]] 00:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::*Except that the article you pointed out relates to Chris and in a big way. It is relevant. Also, the 'owner' of the shop probably almost never actually visits the store, just managing it financially, so it really doesn't matter at all. It's irrelevant to begin with, and it certainly does not relate to Chris. For instance, officer [[Bagget]]. Are his exploits outside of Chris there? No, except one thing he did, showing he's been decorated for bravery while Chris demonizes him. Because, guess what, his other exploits '''don't relate to Chris'''. If you are serious about getting the word out, go to ED. They'd love that. We don't care. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:00, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Sounds pretty defensive in response to a small fact. Why not just let it be up there as opposed to creating a massive drama the size of Chris's asshole? Besides, why would anyone take this site seriously? The staff here is pretty laughable as they overreact to small shit and threaten to dox people. It's kinda cute in a way. --[[User:Thoumad|Thoumad]] 01:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Judging by the number of accounts you've created and the number of vandalism attempts you made, I'd say you take this site far more seriously than any of us.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 01:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You don't realize how fun this is. I guess to each his own. Try not to get so worked up over unimportant shit and get so defensive, you'll live longer. --[[User:Thoumad|Thoumad]] 01:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
*I'm kind of new here so I don't know for sure, but would it be possible to protect the page? I'm sure if something needed adding to the article one of the admins could put it in. -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 01:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
**[[User:Lime|Lime]] suggested that on the talk page. I agree; we definitely need to lock the Game Place page.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 01:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
*** I support establishing a lock. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
**** Me too. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 04:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
***** Lock that shit down.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
****** Plug that bitch with a maximum security vault door. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 06:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
******* Don't forget the cement--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
******** And the police tape. ''Can't'' forget the police tape. --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16 likes Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's]] 04:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC) 04:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

== CWC Sighting ==

I don't care about being a name fag or being a field agent. I have followed the Chris trolling for a while, because who could resist reading about some guy who lived in the same city as you? Though I never would have expected to run into the elusive manchild, that is, until July 4th. Every year, McIntire Park shoots off fireworks for the July 4th. Many families come out to watch, despite the decline in quality each year due to money problems. So imagine my surprise when I see the internet sensation himself. I had to do a double take to make sure. No, he wasn't wearing anything outrageous like in Friday's After 5 footage. No Sonichu medallion. I guess he really has given up on Sonichu.

I didn't stalk him the entire time he was there, but kept tabs every once in a while. He spent a lot of time near the baseball field. At one point I noticed he pulled out his DSi, with something odd attached to the front of it. It looked like a zoom lense. But do they make zoom lenses for the DSi? I thought the camera quality was already shit. He seemed to use his DSi and what I think is the zoom lense looking at the people around here, presumably women, considering the creepy person he is. A little while later I noticed he had gotten up and started to walk, to where, I don't know. Then he stopped. Now, I don't know how to make of this...I saw him scribble on something, wrap it around what I think he picked up was a rock, and threw it at this woman. I don't think it hit her, but she seemed startled. She picked up whatever he threw, opened up the paper he had written on, looked at him, and shook her head. She then turned and went on her way.

At that point, I decided to leave it at that and go back to hanging out with my friends. I didn't see him after that point. I assume he decided to change where he was sitting or people were just blocking my view, because as it got darker it got incredibly more busy. (sorry, accidentally originally posted this on an archive page) [[User:Danny|Danny]] 01:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
*[http://www.pcworld.com/article/166121/the_dsi_gets_a_zoom_lens.html The DSi does come with a zoom lens], apparently. Could this be the same contraption he used to take photos at the GAMe PLACe? --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 02:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Has Chris truly realized that Sonichu is creatively and financially worthless? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 02:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Given his arrogance, probably not. He must figure that wearing the medallion must make him stick out like a sore thumb in public, and attract trolls. All changes are just from his very gradual realization that he'll have to make some cosmetic changes to attract the all elusive boyfriend-free girl. Chris is a lazy fuck, that's why he's not making comics, besides him disliking people pressuring him to actual do something, aswell as realizing his fandom is mainly nonexistent. He'll continue doing shit involving his 100% original Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon though, mainly because he gets pleasure from the power of absolute control over something. Chris's life is boring, so very boring. He can't play vidya forever. He will be back to Sonichu, and he will continue thinking it is a relevant and worthy piece of art. [[User:Ozymandias|Ozymandias]] 02:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Woah, I think we might be getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. I'd really, really like to believe this. The thought of chris throwing a note with "Want to fuck? Y/N" (or something similiar) is hilarious, and I'm not trying to call Danny a liar. But with any sort of proof... It's a bit hard to take on face value. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 14:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::: Wait, he's throwing rocks with messages attached to them to try to pick up women? It wouldn't surprise me, but I need more proof of this. This could be a bold new step in Chris's attraction sign usage (one that could actually injure someone). Are there any family photo albums of Mcintire park on July 4th? maybe we could find a picture of him in the crowd --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 14:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::: The rock throwing seems to be an improvised paper-heart-on-a-string. Still not working though. --[[User:Hellion|masta beta alum]] 20:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::Am I cursed to see Chris everywhere now, shit. If anyone else noticed, he has some sort of paper sitting in between his legs... [http://i29.tinypic.com/esm0zk.png Picture1] [http://i28.tinypic.com/dndif9.png Picture2] [[User:Danny|Danny]] 23:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

::::::Thanks Danny. So she picked up the rock and looked at him, he shook his head (guessing it was a "yep, lets fuck" nod, and she just kept going? --[[User:Mp83|Mp83]] 00:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Sorry, that was a typo. SHE shook her head at him. Thanks for pointing that out so I could fix it. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 00:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Wait a minute... does he have multiple pokewalkers? Where did those come from? [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 00:18, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Heart Gold and Soul Silver each come with one, right? He probably bought both versions so he could trade with himself.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 00:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::But you also can see the Sonichu Pokewalker--meaning he bought a third copy as well.
::::::::::Well, we now know what he might have replaced the Sonichu medallion with. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 01:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::...so he has two copies of one of the games? It's either that or he bought a used one from [[GameStop]]... god ''damn'', Chris.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 04:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for not adding more with the pictures, but I did notice that Chris had taken his DSi zoom lense(thanks for clarifying that up for me, guys) off his DSi and was using it as a telescope. He had it pressed up against his eye and was constantly watching around him with it for awhile. He also had this habit of taking off and putting on his sunglasses within seconds of each other. It seemed like he paid more attention to what was going on around him than what was happening at the concert. At one point, I noticed a girl, who looked like she was probably still in highschool, jump up on the ledge beside Chris to join a group of friends who happened to be stationed behind the manbaby. In the process, Chris turned to her and it looked like he said something to her, because immediately her facial expression changed from a legit happy one to a forced smile one. She joined up with her friends and they immediately huddled up together, whispering about something. At the same time they all looked up at Chris, and laughed. I can only imagine what he had said to the poor girl. A few moments later, one of the guys in the group picked up his cell phone and snapped a picture of Chris from behind. Maybe he's aware of who Chris is and will share his story somewhere. At that point, whether or not Chris realized they were making fun of him, he picked up his stuff and switched seating spots. I chose to take my leave at that point. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 01:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Interesting. Chris seems to be getting a fair bit fatter judging by the rolls of fat in that first pic. He's like a land whale now. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::* Holy SHIT look at how skinny his legs are in that first picture. Compare them to the woman on his right, then the fat guy on his left. It's a wonder he can even walk around. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 01:53, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* I'm pretty sure that's just a result of his pant cuffs being pulled tight. In picture 2, you can see he's wearing extremely baggy pants, so if he moved his legs parts, the fabric would tighten around them, giving the illusion that their very skinny. If Chris's legs were really that skinny, they would have snapped under the weight of his massive girth --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 03:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::::*I don't know, his arms are pretty damn skinny, too. Which is amazing considering how fat he is. He has literally no triceps. I also wonder how long it'll be until he gets arrested by the jerkops for soliciting an underage girl. --[[User:Mp83|Mp83]] 04:06, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::*As far as I can remember, Chris make a constant effort to include the "18-XX" comment on every attraction sign he made so far. So, no underage girls for him. Soliciting, on the other side, might be used against him the second anyone in the "Friday After Five" will wish to remove him from the area. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::*I think this has more to do with bone structure. He was skinny back in high school. Once he went off to college, he stopped having balanced meals and started eating junk food three times a day. His fat congeals around his torso, but his limbs remained the same. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 04:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::*He didn't go off to college, he still lived at home while at PVCC. His age caught up to his metabolism and he seems to have gotten lazier. -[[User:Mp83|Mp83]] 04:42, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*fyi, I think his legs appear skinny in that picture because our view of them is being cut off by the wall. -[[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 05:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Compare the two pictures. The dirt leading up to the wall goes on pretty flat, there doesn't seem to be much of a drop. I understand he has baggy pants on, but even considering the fat's probably squished up, he must have almost zero muscle there. It must be little more than bone and the bare muscle needed to stand. In the second picture compare his forearm to his lower leg. That... That's just insanely unhealthy. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 07:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Community Portal

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The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

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== Since I've been gone ==

I was in the hospital for a few days and apparently, shit came up. Looks like shit was settled though...or was it? Your thoughts, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Define "shit" Champ. Shit as in Chris's madness on flipnote, shit as in the Asperpedia hack, or shit as in Alex being a retard? In any case, nothing was settled. At all. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Mostly agree; Chris has been typical Chris on Flipnote and Asperpedia is still being fucking weird, but 16BitAlex is gone, and BabyNeko left as well in a flurry of drama, so that specific shit has settled for the moment. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Well, BabyNeko is gone. But Alex certainly is not. He said he was going, but like certain other manchildren before him, he is continueing to frequent that which he said he would leave forever, posting more bullshit about apples and his racist views on asian women or some shit like that. I have no clue what he's really saying. He used to make sense, and then his language just devolved into retarded babbling. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
**I removed my "retarded babbling". --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 00:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
***Your "DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING" tactic just makes you look worse, you know.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 01:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*Typical garden-variety madness, nothing serious. I wish you a speedy recovery. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Faggots did drama, Chris kept on being Chris. Hope whatever hospitalized you wasn't too serious and that you get well soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
beat said it best. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

==Long time, no see==

I was reading an issue of Rolling Stone yesterday, and I found out that California rejected funding for an IRL homosexuality "cure". Wouldn't it be fun if we told Chris about this, just for his reaction? Guys? --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 15:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

:Possibly. Actually, the way things are going now, he could start building an actual political platform that would include anti-badmouthing, homo vaccines, and dating education. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== 16bitfaggot B& BryanBash ==

I am a humble user, barely making edits and staying out of this petty drama. But this is far, far more of a crime than I can let go by unpunished. Ban this faggot.--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

What the fuck happened? I'm a bit out of the loop. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

*16bitAlex is being lame. Unfortunately, it's the poisonous kind of lame that compels others to act lame in a display of how much they hate him. At least I think that's what's going on.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
**That's about right. I forget where it started, but you can see a lot of it on Delabonte's page. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
***My personal justification is that I needed a reason to act like a fag to somebody, and to put it bluntly, he's the perfect excuse. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
****What did your girlfriend break up with you, and now you're hiding your secret pain by lashing out on the internet? I realize he's being a moron and I'm honestly shocked he hasn't been banned yet, but you guys have managed to fill the entire recent changes page with your little bitch fight against him on multiple occasions. That shit is just sad.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Haven't had a girlfriend in months. Sorry about the recent changes thing, I guess it didn't occur to me that that was the case. I came here back in January primarily as a troll, and I hadn't done any trolling here yet. Call me immature, but it was doing what I came here to do, and it was satisfying. Seems like it's just about blown over now though, so I'll resume normal editing duties shortly. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:57, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
******Sorry about clogging the first page of recent changes on your website dedicated to documenting everything a 28 year old manbaby has ever done. Seriously, fucking relax. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
*******I actually did want to stay out of the drama. I just posted a single comment on Delabonte's page telling Alex to abandon his account and just set up a new online identity. I just wanted to end this shit. Unfortunatly, he instead went on to cause more drama, and it pissed me off to the point I became an active participant. Well, i've learned my lesson now; Never try to white knight for anybody. If they are being trolled then they probably deserve it. I'm sorry for being a faggot everyone. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 10:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Times Square Billboard Images ==

Where on the cwcki can I view them?
[[User:BigDipper|BigDipper]] 19:20 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*They're here - http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/20_December_2009 [[User:Irenicus|Irenicus]] 11:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ok... ==
You know what I hate more than anything else in the world? Gary Oak. Gary motherfucking Oak and the 500 motherfucking server error. Now, I know that the people in charge probably won't listen to this suggestion. I know it'd cause a lot of trouble to actually do it. I know that there is most likely some reason why we haven't already done it. But i'm not 100% certain, so i'm gonna throw this suggestion out there in the vain hope that someone sees it and either does it or at least explains why we can't;

Why don't we move CWCki to the Hsienko servers that Asperpedia is hosted on?

Because I NEVER have any of this shit when doing stuff there. Not once. Ever. At all.

Over there, internal server errors do not exist.

Just throwing it out there. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
*Having just received the 500 error (while logging in, no less), I like this idea.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 23:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)==
*And now the errors are getting worse. Are they trying to tell us something?-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
**I think today the website is just more stressed than usual. It's what motivated me to post. I was getting so fucking many on recent changes all the time. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::*The 500 errors are becoming infuriatingly common, but I'm thinking there has to be a fix that doesn't involve moving the whole site.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Contact Info ==
I've got an idea that will probably elicit no reaction whatever from Chris but has to be worth a try. But he's always abandoning accounts and changing his email. Does anyone have his most up-to-date email address? Does anyone know if he still even checks it anymore? I know he said he was giving up internet, but he's still on Flipnote, so you never know. Thanks a million and Happy Canada Day! --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 19:34 1 July 2010 CEST

: chrischansonichu@aol.com is and always has been his email account. These days he barely checks it and doesn't reply to anything, so best of luck; I've been bombarding it on and off from various email accounts ever since Sydney got through, but not even a single bite. Emailing Chris at this point is like pissing into an ocean of piss. p.s if your idea is 'pretend to be Megan, pretend to be a girl interested in him, say you dug up patti,pretend you are someone impossible (such as Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)), then I can safely say it won't work. Good luck though. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:03, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

==I MAD==

Okay, so the 'fan videos' is a cool and entertaining feature that can spice up a boring video page. Like all good ideas, however, something fucktarded has to come along. In this case, I'm talking about the utterly moronic practice of inserting videos that are either unrelated to the topic at hand, not actual Chris videos, or both. I'm not going to point any fingers namely because I've been gone forever and I'm not going to search through histories. Does a video with 'hurr durr i edited clips to make chris say he's gay' belong in the middle of the [[homos]] article? Does [[Sweetheart]] need some totally fucking irrelevant mashup at the top of the page?

At best, this is a misguided attempt at transplanting in humor. At worst, it's namefaggotry. I'm going to be weeding out this crap but it would be nice if certain people actively avoided this level of dumbfuckery. Put fan videos in a segment labeled fan videos, and maybe explain how the fuck it's relevant to the article.

/rage rage rage rage --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

:Aren't we a little overzealous? Granted, some videos are useless, but '''we have a fan video template.''' Just get rid of the useless ones and fix the ones that stay. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

:*Essentially, that's what I want, for people to use the template and make sure the video is appropriate. You just said it without all my impotent NERD RAAAAAAAGE. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:31, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I've seen this shit around too, didn't know it was an issue. I'll keep an eye out in case someone adds that sort of thing in from now on. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 04:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I see what you're getting at. I think there are quite a few pages where there's far too many fan videos. A secondary goal of the CWCki which hasn't been quite elaborated on formally is that it should serve to preserve trolling culture and our collective trolling heritage that surrounds Chris. Personally, I think a fan video should only be included in an article if 1) it is notable in itself (see Vivian G's "DYKES DYKES CHINA," for instance) or 2) it illustrates a point clearly (can't think of a good example at the moment). In any case, it should be done sparingly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Why I've banned 16BitAlex ==

When I was 4 or so, I had an NES when it was still pretty new and my babysitter loved playing it. One time, my mom took away the NES from me because my babysitter was so enamored with the NES, she would forget to, you know, watch me. It's something like that.

I really didn't follow shit he did closely because Chris is enough drama to follow. 16BitAlex seemed to be causing drama that was counter productive to the CWCki's goal of documenting the life and times of Christian Weston Chandler.

It looks like he himself tried to ban himself and so I took it upon myself to do the job right for him. Alex, if you're reading this, you are free to appeal this ban. Likewise, he is free to create a new account and start life anew on the CWCki, provided he will not delve too much into his personal life and stay focused on just editing the CWCki.

I am really sick of this drama, not so much from CWCki editors but people like Clyde, and I'm afraid the only feasible solution I have was to remove Alex and in a way that was also to protect him because God damn, he is such a damn ass pie.

Now let's get back to work, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I officially declare the first Church of Champthom open. Praise the Lord, for we have been saved! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I'm glad you took care of this. Really, I'm surprised why none of the other admins stepped in. I guess they just wanted to see the drama unfold. Hopefully this will ''finally'' die down. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 15:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*Champ, you are hot. I want you. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*Me too! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*This is a good thing. The best thing, even.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
*I want to suck your big dick Champthom and have you come all over my face. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*Perhaps it's that I haven't slept since Thursday afternoon, but the NES analogy is going way over my head. Still, I'm glad to see it over, even if I was a contributor. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 05:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:The babysitter (CWCki editors) was playing the NES (messing with Alex) instead of doing her job and watching baby Champ. (obsessively chronicling the day to day life of an autistic manchild)--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 16:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*Thank GodBearJesus that crap is over.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 06:09, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*To be honest I do think this 16BitAlex drama was creating confusion and chaos in the wiki. As much as I'd like to have trolled him, we do have to find a better place to do it. It was starting to get like an angry shouting match in broad daylight in the middle of a mall D: -- [[User:Da Nuke|Da_Nuke the Nucular Raeg Bomb]] 04:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Very apt. In any case, the point is that Alex himself didn't do anything wrong, per say, only that he was acting in a way that was disruptive as feeding trolls (which, as this wiki serves as a beautiful illustration, is something you just don't do) and I felt it was best for him and this wiki for him to be banned. Anyways, just wanted to clarify that it has nothing to do with me hating Alex or siding with people trolling him, just wanted to get this shit taken care of.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:44, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Whatever your motives, we still love you just as much for actually doing it. The dude really needed to go. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== Chris may be eligible for fraud charges ==

Greetings all. A friend of mine who used to work as paralegal in social security pointed out that Chris may be eligible for fraud charges. I don't know the exact rules myself, but it seems if you're taking the social security fund and, you are not supposed to have 'substantial assets' (that is, in excess of $2000, sans car and house). Seeing Chris' PS3 and list of purchases, he is very likely to have gone through that limit. Unless he could provide evidence that he is disabled for work, he may face up to 10 years in jail for the fraud charge.

The SSA office in charge of Virginia should be 1470 Pantops Mountain Place, Charlottesville - (434) 295-1144 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting (434) 295-1144 end_of_the_skype_highlighting (reopens on 6th of July I heard). I can't report this issue due to me not being a US citizen, so I'm just pointing a possibility here.
*For the love of GodJesus, how hard is it to sign your posts?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 04:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:*We've been over this. He has autism, and apparently that's good enough for the state of Virginia.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Also, he really is too stupid to work--he couldn't even take out the garbage at Wendy's without fucking it up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*Ah, I'm sorry about that, this is my first time using this function of a wiki page--[[User:Xanandar|Xanandar]] 04:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

'''Short answer:''' either you didn't hear your friend correctly, or he's a moron. Chris will never be pulled in on fraud charges.

'''Long answer:''' Assets that would be countable include excess real property, the fair market value of vehicles other than your primary vehicle, balances in savings accounts, excess burial plots, and revocable trusts. Legally, Chris owns very little, his parents owning all the real property (the house and land) and the accounts. Generally, items like TVs and PS3s aren't counted in the count of substantial assets, and oh god the legal shitstorm from revoking SSDI benefits because of DLC would be terrifying. Finally, the defense would have a field day with excuses on why he couldn't have understood the restriction. You might be thinking of "substantial gainful activity" ("SGA"), but that would be work which Chris.....doesn't.

Oh, and '''Supplemental Security Income =/= Social Security Disability Insurance'''. I'm fairly certain Chris receives a check from the latter, so it's more application based than needs based.

-[[User:Jump|attorney at lol]]

Sadly, I think the only thing Chris risks is a weekly follow-up with a social worker. I don't think I will see a judge punishing an autistic manchild on his first fraud offence. I am ready to bet an old 5$ that he will receive no punitive damages at all. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Attention all jerkops ==

Any user who interferes with [[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] is to be banned from the CWCki. This user has provided original information about Chris and Clyde has confirmed this to be a confirmed CWCSighting.

That young, 14 year old boy and his valorous usage of his Nintendo DS to attempt to capture Chris warrants special attention and no one is to interfere with him.

Questions may be directed to me on a one-on-one basis (contact info available on my user page).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== changes i'd like to see ==

so, i'm thinking about remaking the community portal as an actual portal. that is, a place with links to discussion areas for different topics. one of these would be about speculation, which leads me onto my next change: no more speculation in articles, unless it is ''extremely'' related. some articles have way too fucking much armchair psychology, which really has no place in the main namespace. this is an encyclopaedia of facts, not a gigantic talk page, so please confine your guesswork to either article discussion pages(if it is important to improving the article, i.e. decoding/translating chris's bullshit) or the speculation place(once it's made). please discuss how the community portal should be revamped, such as what discussion pages to create. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== MIA Asperpedian ==

I wasn't sure where else to put this, but does anyone know where I can find whoever went by the name "Sans" on Asperpedia? I need to discuss something with him. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== Is it possible to have this screen name deleted? ==

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'd like my screen name deleted if that is possible. [[User:JamieTyler|JamieTyler]] 23:37, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== Favorite Troll Userboxes? ==

Just a suggestion, we have Userboxes for the favorite Chandler cats, but none for one's favorite troll? I just thought it would be a good idea to put out like five for the biggest-names in CWC Trolling (Like Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike...Jimmy Hill?) [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
*I support this. I yearn for some way to show my infinite love of Liquid Chris. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah, forgot about Liquid, but yeah, him too [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 23:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:I feel Liquid would reign supreme. Still, it seems like we're missing a few; does Alec count? [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::I think Alec would count. How about Robert Simmons V or The Man in the Pickle Suit? --[[User:Paperback|Paperback]] 10:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Robert I don't think really warrants his own box. He didn't do a whole lot. I'd like to get a box for Evan if we're doing one for Alec. So, the list so far is Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike, Liquid Chris, Alec, Man In The Pickle Suit, and Evan. Who would be up for making them? [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 14:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::: I'll make them! Do you think there should be userboxes for favorite saga too? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 21:54, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, here's the boxes I've made so far:
*[[Template:ClydeCash|Clyde]]
*[[Template:JackThaddeus|Jack]]
*[[Template:VivianGee|Vivian]]
*[[Template:BlueSpike|BlueSpike]]
*[[Template:LiquidChris‎|Liquid]]

Sorry they're nothing special, feel free to edit them. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 22:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Needs some spicing up, i'll admit. Maybe some text relating to their trolling campaigns? Maybe something like "This user believes in the TRUE and HONEST Liquid Chris" or "This user is a Bluespike fan, and takes delight in Christian's pain" What do you guys think? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry they're so bland. I'm a bit slow-in-the-mind so I can't think of anything witty for them. Those sound good to me!

Oh yeah, and I don't know what picture to use for Alec (there was a nice picture of Asperchu, but it's already used for the Asperpedia template), so I'll skip his box for now. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 00:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:Might I suggest a picture from his appearance in Sonichu? Probably the best we could do other than maybe a different picture of Asperchu.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 00:41, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I added some shit. Feel free to edit. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I made the boxes for [[Template:MPS|the Man in the Pickle Suit]] and [[Template:Evan|Evan]]. I was working on Alec's but [[User:ALBASPERCHU|ALBASPERCHU]] [[Template:AlecBensonLeary|beat me to it]]. Also I think some of them have that annoying white space problem though. Fuuu- --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 01:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

== IBA fucking geneva ==

Is evading every five seconds and needs to be dealt with. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 03:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
: I have perma-banned the creep twice. Fells like a game of "Whack-A-Mole". [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Mighty fine work there, Griffintown.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I am glad to be helpful. Besides, what is the fun in a Wiki without the odd griefer to whack around? :) [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'd hate to be a fag and walk into this, but I was under the impression that we had his dox, so couldn't we just toss them out? If not there's software that lets us track IP and software even when the user is hiding behind Tor so we could just get his dox if we don't have it that way.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 04:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh god damn. The [[User:Pfaggot|name]] of his new account is harassment itself. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
*BTW his Juanbrujo account isn't banned yet. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. Someone needs to deal with this guy. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 14:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Account list:
*IBAgeneva (banned)
*JerryMathers (banned)
*Goyslayer (banned)
*Juanbrujo (banned)
*Pfaggot (banned)
*Herpdederp (banned)
*Derpaherp (banned)
*Greatjollynegro (banned)
*Uhuru (banned)
*Meenween (banned)
*Mrjoo (banned)
*Lawltiger (banned)
*Pewbmonster (banned)
*Niggomalema (banned)
*Mrpillow (banned)
*Farklesparkle (banned)
*Jammastercoon (banned)
*Travislikesbeer (banned)
*CountCockula (banned)
*Lightsideblue (banned)
*BEEEEES (banned)
*Rapeanator (banned)
*Loldongs (banned)
*Thoumad (banned)
*Spocker (banned)
TOTAL: 25
[[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 15:45, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Does he think its even funny? Its pathetic and retarded. Maybe the category page shoud just say this person is a faggot.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 03:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Whoever this guy is, it sounds like he's either butthurt or a newfag since he only makes the same edits over and over. He fails as a vandal. Seriously. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:You just don't know how fun this is, buddy. Also, Office Space was ok. Wasn't that great of a movie. :/ --[[User:Uhuru|Uhuru]] 17:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::It's fine we can just drop your dox and we'll see if you still think it's fun then. You know Tor doesn't hide your actual IP when you use these sites, at least not when the right software's around.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::That smacks of some sort of desperation. First of all, I get the hint you are talking out your ass. Second, u mad? --[[User:Mrjoo|Mrjoo]] 19:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
* Actually no, whenever you use Scripts/Flash Tor won't hide your IP, and there are several commercial programs that can track based on that. Try to figure out how your parachute works before you use it Here's a hint: the boxes that enable flash and Java, leave them off. Of course you can't edit if they are off... -[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:You threaten me with dox and you only follow up with an explanation of how you could possibly find my IP address. You kind of fail at being an internet tough guy.--[[User:Pewbmonster|Pewbmonster]] 20:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::people are not acting like an inetrnet though guy, because your retarded fagottry is just annoying instead of infuriating. and dammit choose less retarded sockpuppets, because seriously "pewbmonster"? what are you? 13?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 20:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Cool story bro. I can't account for how old I am but I know [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LU0Q6ONMQY Pfargtl9000] is a little kid. --[[User:Niggomalema|Niggomalema]] 21:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I never threatened, I just said that it's going to happen: it's not just "possibly" find, you've left a big gap and anyone reaasonably skilled and with the software can exploit that. You aren't invisible and there's no reason to why the management wouldn't crank up the rapemachine if you keep trying to act like a big bad troll. You obviously don't know how to vandalize a site, try to know what you're doing before getting smug.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Hey you might want to shorten your post because I don't feel like reading all that. I mean if your full of hot air just say it. I just am not going to bother with your little screeds. --[[User:Niggomalema|Niggomalema]] 21:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::::: Here's the shorter version: Your dox will be posted. and PS: YOu called Pfargt a little kid, but that little kid has shown more maturity than you ever will. you're a lost case.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Sounds like an empty threat, brah. Your IP is (censored). It isn't that big of a deal, is it? --[[User:Loldongs|Loldongs]] 00:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

[http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pfargtl9000&oldid=103044 Will there ever be an end to this?] [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

that's funny, i don't remember giving j0haely or kei any mod priveleges. maybe they should fuck off --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 06:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Congratulations, this is the CWCki staff, a bunch of angsty thirteen year old boys. No wonder this site can't get it's shit together. Some stupid shit happens and all you can do when the mods are afk or just idle, which is most of the time, is have your userbase make empty, childish threats. Why should anyone take this shit seriously anymore? This is all one big joke. It's like this site is run by the New*Furry*Military. --[[User:Spocker|Spocker]] 15:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Enjoy your ban. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Enjoying every minute of it. --[[User:Dangerman|Dangerman]] 15:59, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Then why do you keep coming back? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
: I never mentioned i had mod priviledges. i just find this petty bullshit annoying.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 16:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

It's always good to see another /cwc/ guy on, keeping it interesting. I think everyone (well, save for cogs) is taking this dude a bit too seriously. He's just fucking around, not even really vandalizing. Chill, niggers. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:I love a good game of "Whack-A-Mole". Quite relaxing. Looks like I have a partner for the next few days. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't take it so seriously, but it's like having to put up with a spoiled toddler throwing a tantrum. It's pretty obnoxious. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 16:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Would someone please tell me why IP banning him and preventing account creation is so hard to do? I've done that sort of stuff on the Asperpedia when banning random vandals, and from what I've seen it's as simple as clicking two boxes. So what's the problem here then? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I think this guy deserves his own article [[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 19:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Furfags and furfag sympathizers on cwcki? Still? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]], we know you're a fucking faggot who defends furniggers, etc. Get skype, pm me your skype on irc (I'm Krapple_Guy), and we'll settle this there. Do it plz, dramawhore. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 19:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:No. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Also, does it look like you have the power to force furries off the CWCki? If so, when did you get that pow- oh wait, '''you never had that power.''' Seeing how you are applying Legi0n's rules to a completely different website that doesn't use those rules, you are just making yourself look like an ''ass''. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Really? Is that what this is about? Furfags? Come on guys. This subject is so old that it's rotting. If you really have that much of a problem with them, then troll them on Youtube. It's much easier, you'd get banned less often, and it'd save grief for both the Krapple trolls and the CWCki. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:It seems like the only thing we can't insult is /cwc/, and if we do it we're basically labeled as "niggers" and "furfags". So, [[wikipedia:BioShock|would you kindly]] fuck off? (message not directed towards Edward) [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:Umm no. We at Legi0n really don't give two shits if you insult /cwc/. Feel free to insult it all you want. Thats not the point (a point you are avoiding btw). Point is, Pfargtl9000, you've defended known furfags on cwcki at least twice. [[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|Ed]] the sonicfag furrfag and [[User:MaxTehManyula|Max]] the pokemon fetishist furfag.

{{quote|Hi. In case you ask, I am a furry, more precisely a Pokefur. I am quite pissed that Chris is digging my fandom into a bigger hole every day.|[[User:MaxTehManyula|Max]]}}

Need I say more? Now then P, get skype and we'll talk. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 20:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I fucking already read that before you put it up in HUEG XBOX quotes. Thing is, I don't give two shits about what he is, unlike you. And one last thing; I'm not going into Skype. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Pfargtl9000's thing is that he loves to bitch and moan to the mods. He was continually trying to start drama on the cwcki because the idea of any form of fursecution makes his ass pucker. He also loves to raeg on this wiki through the use of rainbowtext and setting up his permaban template on the pages of new members that he perceives to be sock accounts with no proof whatsoever. It's rather funny that I'm able to get the cwcki staff to intimidate new users. --[[User:Dramallama|Dramallama]] 20:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

What do furries, or any of this, have to do with Christian Chandler? Im not even sure what we are trying to accomplish now...[[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 21:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Absolutly nothihg. Pfargtl9000 is just causing a lot of drama because he's a faggot. I told him me & the guys from /cwc/ would be willing to settle things with him outside of cwcki (skype), but he refuses to listen and wants to use cwcki as his shield/personal army. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 21:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:It's accomplishing nothing; this is an open-and-shut case of vandalism and flame wars. We all know Cogs' policy; she doesn't care what you do as long as you don't bring faggotry to her site. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 21:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Agreed. Again, I told Pfargtl9000 that we'd be willing to settle all this via skype (and outside of cwcki), but he refuses. --[[User:VanKrause|VanKrause]] 21:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::It is possible that he either doesent want skype or feels that it is too personal (voice, real name, ect.) If Pfargt thinks that the cwcki is his 'personal army' then there is probably something the cwckians could do to help if help is needed?[[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]] 21:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Look here guiz, this is accomplishing nothing. We are all just arguing over internet politics right now, and we've gone WAY off topic. Pfargtl's faggotry is another issue altogether, as are furries and people's opinions of /cwc/. Right now, I just want a ceasefire in this fucking edit war so that we can go back to researching and documenting the life of a 28 year old fat man from Virginia, and preferably either one side or the other to shut up on the subject of whatever the fuck Pfargtl is doing now as well, preferrably whichever one it was that started all this bullshit. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Game Place page vandalism ==

Some dickweed keeps editing the Game Place page to claim that someone's a sex offender. Can we ban him?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

*From the information posted, I'd say it's relevant. Why not leave it up? [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 22:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
**Did this guy ever interact with Chris? If the answer is no, then it's ''not'' relevant.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
**:Trombonista is completely right. I don't know how many times it has to get pointed out, but the CWCki is. About. Chris. Nobody else. If the guy's record relates to Chris or whatever, then that is relevant. Otherwise, purge with fire. The CWCki is nobody's personal army. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 00:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
***: Well why be so protective of a child molester? If someone plans to go that store or praise it as a result of the articles and confrontations between Snyder and Chris, why not let them know the facts about that store? The CWCki has tons of information regarding all the other institutions and establishments Chris has gone to. But I digress, this wiki isn't really meant to be taken seriously. After all, some of the articles like [[6_June_2010|this one]] are based on hearsay, conjecture, and a terrible misinterpretation of events. All of sudden, this all becomes srs bsns because the fact of a pedophile owning a store which children frequent is too much for you guys to handle. Take a chill pill. --[[User:Thoumad|Thoumad]] 00:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::*Except that the article you pointed out relates to Chris and in a big way. It is relevant. Also, the 'owner' of the shop probably almost never actually visits the store, just managing it financially, so it really doesn't matter at all. It's irrelevant to begin with, and it certainly does not relate to Chris. For instance, officer [[Bagget]]. Are his exploits outside of Chris there? No, except one thing he did, showing he's been decorated for bravery while Chris demonizes him. Because, guess what, his other exploits '''don't relate to Chris'''. If you are serious about getting the word out, go to ED. They'd love that. We don't care. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:00, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Sounds pretty defensive in response to a small fact. Why not just let it be up there as opposed to creating a massive drama the size of Chris's asshole? Besides, why would anyone take this site seriously? The staff here is pretty laughable as they overreact to small shit and threaten to dox people. It's kinda cute in a way. --[[User:Thoumad|Thoumad]] 01:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Judging by the number of accounts you've created and the number of vandalism attempts you made, I'd say you take this site far more seriously than any of us.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 01:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You don't realize how fun this is. I guess to each his own. Try not to get so worked up over unimportant shit and get so defensive, you'll live longer. --[[User:Thoumad|Thoumad]] 01:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
*I'm kind of new here so I don't know for sure, but would it be possible to protect the page? I'm sure if something needed adding to the article one of the admins could put it in. -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 01:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
**[[User:Lime|Lime]] suggested that on the talk page. I agree; we definitely need to lock the Game Place page.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 01:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
*** I support establishing a lock. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
**** Me too. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 04:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
***** Lock that shit down.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
****** Plug that bitch with a maximum security vault door. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 06:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
******* Don't forget the cement--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== CWC Sighting ==

I don't care about being a name fag or being a field agent. I have followed the Chris trolling for a while, because who could resist reading about some guy who lived in the same city as you? Though I never would have expected to run into the elusive manchild, that is, until July 4th. Every year, McIntire Park shoots off fireworks for the July 4th. Many families come out to watch, despite the decline in quality each year due to money problems. So imagine my surprise when I see the internet sensation himself. I had to do a double take to make sure. No, he wasn't wearing anything outrageous like in Friday's After 5 footage. No Sonichu medallion. I guess he really has given up on Sonichu.

I didn't stalk him the entire time he was there, but kept tabs every once in a while. He spent a lot of time near the baseball field. At one point I noticed he pulled out his DSi, with something odd attached to the front of it. It looked like a zoom lense. But do they make zoom lenses for the DSi? I thought the camera quality was already shit. He seemed to use his DSi and what I think is the zoom lense looking at the people around here, presumably women, considering the creepy person he is. A little while later I noticed he had gotten up and started to walk, to where, I don't know. Then he stopped. Now, I don't know how to make of this...I saw him scribble on something, wrap it around what I think he picked up was a rock, and threw it at this woman. I don't think it hit her, but she seemed startled. She picked up whatever he threw, opened up the paper he had written on, looked at him, and shook her head. She then turned and went on her way.

At that point, I decided to leave it at that and go back to hanging out with my friends. I didn't see him after that point. I assume he decided to change where he was sitting or people were just blocking my view, because as it got darker it got incredibly more busy. (sorry, accidentally originally posted this on an archive page) [[User:Danny|Danny]] 01:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
*[http://www.pcworld.com/article/166121/the_dsi_gets_a_zoom_lens.html The DSi does come with a zoom lens], apparently. Could this be the same contraption he used to take photos at the GAMe PLACe? --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 02:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Has Chris truly realized that Sonichu is creatively and financially worthless? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 02:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Given his arrogance, probably not. He must figure that wearing the medallion must make him stick out like a sore thumb in public, and attract trolls. All changes are just from his very gradual realization that he'll have to make some cosmetic changes to attract the all elusive boyfriend-free girl. Chris is a lazy fuck, that's why he's not making comics, besides him disliking people pressuring him to actual do something, aswell as realizing his fandom is mainly nonexistent. He'll continue doing shit involving his 100% original Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon though, mainly because he gets pleasure from the power of absolute control over something. Chris's life is boring, so very boring. He can't play vidya forever. He will be back to Sonichu, and he will continue thinking it is a relevant and worthy piece of art. [[User:Ozymandias|Ozymandias]] 02:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Woah, I think we might be getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. I'd really, really like to believe this. The thought of chris throwing a note with "Want to fuck? Y/N" (or something similiar) is hilarious, and I'm not trying to call Danny a liar. But with any sort of proof... It's a bit hard to take on face value. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 14:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::: Wait, he's throwing rocks with messages attached to them to try to pick up women? It wouldn't surprise me, but I need more proof of this. This could be a bold new step in Chris's attraction sign usage (one that could actually injure someone). Are there any family photo albums of Mcintire park on July 4th? maybe we could find a picture of him in the crowd --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 14:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::: The rock throwing seems to be an improvised paper-heart-on-a-string. Still not working though. --[[User:Hellion|masta beta alum]] 20:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::Am I cursed to see Chris everywhere now, shit. If anyone else noticed, he has some sort of paper sitting in between his legs... [http://i29.tinypic.com/esm0zk.png Picture1] [http://i28.tinypic.com/dndif9.png Picture2] [[User:Danny|Danny]] 23:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

::::::Thanks Danny. So she picked up the rock and looked at him, he shook his head (guessing it was a "yep, lets fuck" nod, and she just kept going? [[User:Mp83|Mp83]] 00:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Sorry, that was a typo. SHE shook her head at him. Thanks for pointing that out so I could fix it. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 00:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Wait a minute... does he have multiple pokewalkers? Where did those come from? [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 00:18, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Heart Gold and Soul Silver each come with one, right? He probably bought both versions so he could trade with himself.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 00:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::But you also can see the Sonichu Pokewalker--meaning he bought a third copy as well.
::::::::::Well, we now know what he might have replaced the Sonichu medallion with. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 01:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for not adding more with the pictures, but I did notice that Chris had taken his DSi zoom lense(thanks for clarifying that up for me, guys) off his DSi and was using it as a telescope. He had it pressed up against his eye and was constantly watching around him with it for awhile. He also had this habit of taking off and putting on his sunglasses within seconds of each other. It seemed like he paid more attention to what was going on around him than what was happening at the concert. At one point, I noticed a girl, who looked like she was probably still in highschool, jump up on the ledge beside Chris to join a group of friends who happened to be stationed behind the manbaby. In the process, Chris turned to her and it looked like he said something to her, because immediately her facial expression changed from a legit happy one to a forced smile one. She joined up with her friends and they immediately huddled up together, whispering about something. At the same time they all looked up at Chris, and laughed. I can only imagine what he had said to the poor girl. A few moments later, one of the guys in the group picked up his cell phone and snapped a picture of Chris from behind. Maybe he's aware of who Chris is and will share his story somewhere. At that point, whether or not Chris realized they were making fun of him, he picked up his stuff and switched seating spots. I chose to take my leave at that point. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 01:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Interesting. Chris seems to be getting a fair bit fatter judging by the rolls of fat in that first pic. He's like a land whale now. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::* Holy SHIT look at how skinny his legs are in that first picture. Compare them to the woman on his right, then the fat guy on his left. It's a wonder he can even walk around. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 01:53, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Coffee Place

2010-07-05T10:36:32Z

Borednewb: /* This Amanda person seems interesting enough. */

== Do Not Delete; Pursue for the Drama. ==

My family and I were there one morning a couple of weeks ago; my camera was screwing up with me, so I ended up with the photo of the front counter. I haven't been back for a while (Damn parents won't drive me back there), and I'm only 14.

Robert was shouting at Amanda, and eventually Chrissy joined in with an uproar so loud, it would have awaken the dead. It was in response to Amanda harassing them that day. I asked around after Robert and Chris left, without my family taking notice of me.

I can get away with anything within my reach; I'm the middle child of a set of three in my family. Sadly, we were only passing through that week on our way back from a visit with my Grandma and Grandpa in South VA; we live up in Boston.

Being bullied as a Freshman last year in my High School was no fucking picnic either. And I really loath ANYONE who is even considered "Special". I'm Special enough on my own for being invisible yet able to attract attention remotely with a mere thought or do-nothing and having to put up with the aggresiveness in my fucking family; I am very much the Master Mind in the family. My father is damned retarded.

But enough about me, I hate Chris as much as the rest of you. Stopping the presses on his books and giving up his website; it still pisses me off. If I recall correctly, it was about 10:30 when the Father and Son Duo left, so best bet is about 10:00 AM to try and intercept. I want to see Chris, if not both of them, squirm in torture from our Trolling of him. I really want to see him blow his top off again. LULZ.

Oh, and the Windows at that place were Tinted, so the photography would be best from inside the place.

For the LULZ!!!!

--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 22:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== This is a confirmed CWCSighting ==
The first one. Now stop harassing this user Christ almighty. god damn you people overanalyzing shit. now if anyone touches this user I will BAN them. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*Thanks Clyde. I'm not the most active member on here, but goddamn some people get way too SERIOUS BUSINESS over some shit. This, even if it does have some non-CWC info in it, and even if it was a small sighting, is still useful, and furthermore interesting. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 05:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*I think some people are just jumpy since Chris found another way to lock himself out of the internet. We must also accept and protect the brave volunteers who brought us sightings of the manchild. I think a banner confirming this sighting as valid might do good into dampening some "enthusiastic" reactions. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== This Amanda person seems interesting enough. ==
Chris should probably do something against her. Perhaps the LULZ that come out of both. Chris has nothing to lose because he has no job because he's a lazy piece of shit, but Amanda has her job. I wonder if Chris could get her fired lololol. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Haha yeah, that would be lulzworthy. I hope he does. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::Wait wouldn't there be implications if it this site was linked to influencing Chris to get Amanda fired? This site may get shut down if Chris goes and does something like this. I'd say lets just hope Chris leaves this Amanda be.([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 13:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC))
:::Good point. I guess we don't want Chris doing it. That god he doesn't read these because something like that would be the death of this website. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 16:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::::That could be a total disaster for us and the CWCiki itself. Though we probably don't need to worry about that too much: Chris is way too much of a coward to ever try messing with her Amanda, so we should be safe-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::It would be even worse if he recorded it so he had evidence that he was there.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:I am worried that Chris will go back to this place and yell at that Amanda and tell her that she's a Pickle Agent. It could be a total disaster for all the trolls out there just like Kei said. If Chris tells her she's a Pickle Agent and causes a ruckus, then the government will have another piece of evidence to shut down all of the trolls. But I wonder if Chris will have the balls and manliness to go confront her and get her fired, hahahahahahahahaha. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::Honestly, I don't think he has the guts to go through with his little plan. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, Chris is all hot air. He's too weak and cowardly to put up any sort of fight, be it mental or physical. I bet his parents must be so ashamed of him for not fighting his own battles and hiding behind them all the time.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It's kinda ironic, isn't it? Chris always bags trolls for not having the guts to meet him face to face, and then he goes and shows how gutless he is by not facing this obviously evil bitch. He's no better than us. [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 10:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

==Do not edit==

Hey guys, we want to give this information time to get digested by the head trolls so don't edit it at all unless you're an admin please. If you're an admin you can do what you want. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:I've already added the significant information to [[List of places that have banned Chris]].--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV

2010-06-24T09:51:38Z

Borednewb:

So... where's the video?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*It's the video of the now. I'm no good with the new fangled video template, so you guys can sort it out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I see it an OH I AM SO FUCKING '''TRANSCRIBING DIS BITCH!!!'''--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:A few things we need to do from what I can tell.
::1. <s>Put up a fucking warning label on this bitch (came damn close to vomiting)</s>
::2. <s>Add the new shirt to Chris and Fashion</s> --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 05:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*Completely agreed about the warning. This is the most disturbing thing I've seen in a long time (and I just finished EVA two days ago).--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 05:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Done. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
==Transcribing==

I will assist Beat with transcribing, if he needs my help. Other projects will have to wait. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:First half done. My first watchthrough is the one I transcribe on, something tells me this won't end well.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:19, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::* That's what I do too. It helps I think, but it also means you get rude surprises. Like the cyber in Mumble 3. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::WHAT THE FUCK SHIT DAMN I HATE YOU ALL--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* Oh my God. I don't know if I want to know now, if it can shake the almighty Beat. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Ron you transcribed the Mumbles so you can probably take this. However, I wouldn't push yourself if your heart level is below 40% --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 05:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Beat- EJECT! EJECT! EJECT! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::* IT IS DONE. That could have been a lot worse.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::* You deserve a fucking medal for that one, man. --[[User:HatMcCullough|HatMcCullough]] 05:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Admittedly I skimmed over the details of his tongue movements. If somebody wants to provide a more in-depth explanation, I suggest you seek counseling immediately.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:44, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Beat, you are THE MAN! Yes, you deserve a bloody medal. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Sometimes I am annoyed I never get to transcribe anything new because of my timezone. Sometimes I am very, very glad. Still, I'll touch it up tonight, no matter what the tiny whisper that was my sanity begs me to avoid. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 06:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Ronichu's work ethic never ceases to amaze. I only wish He did not have to suffer so much for it.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::* Truly a god among men. I take my hat off to you.--[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 08:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Problem with brackets? ==

When I edited this article, the brackets were removed from two words (such as [[glasses]] or [[CWCki]]) during both of the edits. The hell? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 15:31, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* CWCki was mentioned, but not bracketed, in the intro at the time. I couldn't find a logical explanation for the glasses bracket, though. Either the Wiki glitched or it was ninjas. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 19:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::* I think it might've been ninjas. The sneaky bastards. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 19:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Date ==

Da Update states this video was leaked on the 21st, this article states the 22nd. The CWCVilleLibrary account has the upload date as the 21st. I r confuse. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

==No shit is too minor ==

We need to identify what his ringtone is. --[[User:Exemplary|Exemplary]] 23:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
* This is probably obvious, but I figured it's worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure it's from a Sonic game. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 00:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** Haven't played a Sonic game in years, but it kind of sounds like Casino Night Zone.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 07:14, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
***Minor edit, changed it from cell phone rining to a digital tone. Personally I'm not convinced anyone would call him (except maybe his parents telling him they're on the way home), so it could be a personal reminder alarm. [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 09:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

==Bra size==
Just to put on record, 42 is his band size, not his cup size, so it's hard to say how big his manboobs are. ...but they're bigger than mine, and I'm an A cup. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 02:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Well, using the page image and this chart[http://lingerie.lovetoknow.com/Bra_Size_Chart] as references, I'd guess he's a C. Maybe a D, if the sports bra is squishing his boobs. [[User:Schismtracer|Schismtracer]] 02:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* During the muscle bra photo set back in October, Chris mentioned his size to be 43...is this an accurate size, or a misconception by Chris? And now it's a 42. Is this evidence that he's actually lost a little weight? Not a huge deal, but again, no shit is too minor.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 06:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** He measured 43 inches in October, but he purchased size 42 bras. They only come in even-numbered sizes, and I'm sure he choose the smaller size for better holding power. (As for his weight, he looks like he's packed on a few more pounds, not lost some.) Did anyone else notice the weird gleam of pride in his eyes when he said he has a 42 bust? Jesus titty-fucking christ. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 08:02, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
***Not knowing much about bra sizes myself, I have to ask. How big is a C or D cup? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* It's all relative, really, depending on the size of the torso they're attached to. If the circumference of the torso at the nipples is three inches greater than the circumference just below the breasts, that's a C cup. D cup is four inches difference. So on a woman who's in good shape, a D cup approaches porn star proportions, but Chris's floppers could easily be D-sized because he's so fucking fat. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 21:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Bigger than mine too, I was coming here to bitch about that...considering that it's a sports bra, it's possible that he's referring to the sizes on the sports bra packages rather than actual bust measurement. I have a hard time imagining that he'd do all this[http://www.ehow.com/how_2311500_measure-bust-size-sports-bra.html] to get an accurate measurement. I'm horribly unfamiliar with exactly how sports bras are sized, but if he's really got a 43" bust, then he might be a DD[http://www.enell.com/size_and_measurement_chart.php]. - [[User:Boop|Boop]] 00:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
**There's a fair chance it's accurate as he made some lucky WalMart employee measure his bust for him. Granted, I guess it's entirely possible that they just did it quickly and inaccurately just so they could get it over with. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 02:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Side note that I just noticed: [[Sports_bra#The_bra_e-mail|This page]] has him stating he's actually a size 43.

For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV

2010-06-24T09:45:46Z

Borednewb: To me it seems more like some kind of personal reminder alarm than a cell phone.

{{Honest}}
[[File:Ima42Bust.jpg|thumb|Chris's measurements.]]
'''For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV''' is a video leaked 21 [[April 2010]] for [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]] in which [[Chris]] demonstrates how he would pleasure her orally and reveals his [[muscle bra|sports bra]], showing off his creepiness on [[CWC's Message for Ivy|a]] [[For My Sweetest Ivy|level]] [[The Return of Kimmi|not]] [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|seen]] [[More for the crabs|since]] [[Bunny Hop|the]] [[Chris Sings Lovin' You|Ivy]] [[Ivy|Saga]].

Chris, wearing a new [[shirt]] bearing a message contradictory to his claims that he is not a [[homo]], begins by apologizing to Jackie for introducing her to the [[CWCki]] (perhaps seeking to avoid another [[The Wallflower|Wallflower]] incident) and trying to explain what he believes happened with Ivy and [[Vanessa Saga|Vanessa Hudgens]]. Chris attempts to sound sincere but, as always, fails miserably. Things only go from bad to worse as Chris demonstrates how he would "pleasure" her [[Chris and sex|orally]]; Chris's voice gets noticeably more excited as he explains this. He even goes so far as to show how he would [[fail|use his tongue as well]]. This, unfortunately, goes on for a good minute. At one point, Chris seems to [[Mumble 8|forget who he's talking to]] and refers to Jackie as Ivy. Chris ends the video by explaining how he has a belly and man-boobs - he seems slightly more willing to admit this fact than he did back in [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke]] - and reveals that he wears a [[muscle bra|sports bra]]. To make it even more pathetic: Chris actually fills it in.

Chris, in a surprising move, did not upload the video to [[YouTube]] but instead used MediaFire. He believes this will keep anyone from getting a hold of the video, neglecting the idea that Jackie herself would circulate it.
{{-}}
==Video==

{{Infobox/video
| name = For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV
| video = {{#ev:youtube|wEKLxgRJnAc}}
| stardate = 21 April 2010
| subject = {{Sex|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| shirt = {{MountAndDoMe|text}}, {{Cwcbra2|text}}
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
| next = [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless]]
}}

===Transcript===
Hey, Jackie, it's me Christian. I'm doing this video for you 'cause upload to th- da MediaFire. Hopefully uh, [[trolls]] will not get that to there. I mean, yeah, I have not tried MediaFire before. But, yeah, I do have a friend that recommends it as well, so, for you I'll try it.

[''Removes [[glasses]], rubs the bridge of his nose'']

Well, first half of the video though uh, yeah, let me apologize for uh, yeah, that thing I- for even leading you to the [[CWCki]]. I just wanted to let you know 'bout what happened to me before. I just felt concerned about that, but- and then with that uh, reading what you read on Ivy's page, yeah, I was wrong. I forgot one detail of that- that detail. Yeah, it was uh- supposedly I was talking to uh, this [[Vanessa Hudgens]], who was like coming onto me really- really well online and I had- I held in with my self-restraint as best as I could. For a long time. And then she's kinda, talked me into it a little bit.

[''A digital tone goes off''] Ignore that. [''Gets up and turns it off, returns to chair''] Eh, that's my cell phone. Hmm. Let me just talk care of that real quick. [''holds up cell phone, apparently silences or turns it off''] Anyway uh, yeah. I did make a video apologizing to Ivy for that, at least, you know, I could man up and admit when I made such a mistake as that. And that was in the past. And I'm sorry- did not mean to- I did not mean to lie to you, I swear. I jus- I just [[lie|forgot that one detail]].

Anyway, as for that, uh, the quote-unquote Vanessa Hudgens actually this- was actually in reality this uh [[Chris and Race#Hispanics|Spanish]] dude I know, [[Joshua Martinez]]. Yeah, just- he was- he was just basi- he was- he was pretending to be Vanessa that whole time and... [''[[sigh]], Chris's face becomes noticeably distraught''] Really ticks me off, that guy. Ehh, nother-nother- that's another story for another day though. Hmm. But anyway with that put aside uh [''perks up a little''] I'm gonna show you- I'm gonna show you some ways on how I can pleasure you [''[[Creepy stare|eyes widen]]''] orally, mmkay?

[''Shifts in chair''] Yeah, I got a few ideas like you know, we definitely [''lifts hand into frame, fidgets''] give you [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|some finger play]]. Lots of fingers. But yeah, I would just- yeah. I could be like [''Leans towards the camera, closes eyes, flicks tongue around.''] Ahh, I lick your pretty little clit there. [''Continues to pantomime sex acts''] Tickle your pussy... Oh! And here's the fun part, I put my- I can roll my tongue. I put- I push- I put it in there [''Leans forwards, sticks out tongue''] and extend it while it's in there. Can you imagine that? [''More tongue fail, leans back in chair''] I got other ideas as well, but I just can't think of them right now. But hopefully that's now good enough for starters and to make up for that.

Any- ah, I hhave been under confusion pat- for a little while, but seriously, [[Fail|Ivy]], I really do want you. [''Firmer, failing to realize his Freudian slip''] I want you. And I do love you and I care about you, and I pray that this video does not fall into the hands of the trolls. You let me know once you got it downloaded successfully and that you're able to play it and I'll take it off of the MediaFire.

[''Brow furrows, whisper''] Oh, my gosh. [''normally''] I gotta watch myself. And also uh, another thing to make up for this uh, hmm, I'll reveal another thing about myself. I actually did- I actually uh, do have [[Obesity|a bit of a belly]], but also with that uh [''grabs manboobs''] manboobs. I'm not- I'm not t- I'm telling you this in the strictest confidence that you will not laugh at me, but when I walk they do bounce, so I have to uh [''Strips off "Mount and Do Me" shirt to reveal [[sports bra]]''] so I wear a sports bra. [''Adjusts sports bra''] Works very good, keeps 'em from bouncing. I got- I'm a 42-bust. Alright, well, I hope we can- hopefully we can move on, and resume our relationship with emotions, or otherwise restart it. I love you Jackie. Love you. [''makes kissing motion, then reaches for camera''] Talk to you later. Meet up soon [''video abruptly ends''].

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = YTP- Chris Chan explains how to pleasure a woman, also sports bra
| video = {{#ev:youtube|kJKmcdSSs7U}}
| Maker = BigJuicyx3
| Stardate = 23 April 2010
| Video Type = VG Remix
}}

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = what the chris
| video = {{#ev:youtube|hwoHCXD1e1g}}
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/mrallex mrallex]
| Stardate = 10 May 2010
}}

==See also==
*[[Jackie e-mails]]
*[[Jackie e-mails Part 2]]
*[[Jackie e-mails Part 3]]

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]|nextlink=[[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless]]|}}
{{LeakedVideos}}

[[Category:Leaked videos]]

Talk:For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV

2010-06-03T08:21:18Z

Borednewb:

So... where's the video?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*It's the video of the now. I'm no good with the new fangled video template, so you guys can sort it out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I see it an OH I AM SO FUCKING '''TRANSCRIBING DIS BITCH!!!'''--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:A few things we need to do from what I can tell.
::1. <s>Put up a fucking warning label on this bitch (came damn close to vomiting)</s>
::2. <s>Add the new shirt to Chris and Fashion</s> --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 05:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*Completely agreed about the warning. This is the most disturbing thing I've seen in a long time (and I just finished EVA two days ago).--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 05:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Done. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
==Transcribing==

I will assist Beat with transcribing, if he needs my help. Other projects will have to wait. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:First half done. My first watchthrough is the one I transcribe on, something tells me this won't end well.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:19, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::* That's what I do too. It helps I think, but it also means you get rude surprises. Like the cyber in Mumble 3. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::WHAT THE FUCK SHIT DAMN I HATE YOU ALL--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* Oh my God. I don't know if I want to know now, if it can shake the almighty Beat. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Ron you transcribed the Mumbles so you can probably take this. However, I wouldn't push yourself if your heart level is below 40% --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 05:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Beat- EJECT! EJECT! EJECT! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::* IT IS DONE. That could have been a lot worse.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::* You deserve a fucking medal for that one, man. --[[User:HatMcCullough|HatMcCullough]] 05:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Admittedly I skimmed over the details of his tongue movements. If somebody wants to provide a more in-depth explanation, I suggest you seek counseling immediately.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:44, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Beat, you are THE MAN! Yes, you deserve a bloody medal. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Sometimes I am annoyed I never get to transcribe anything new because of my timezone. Sometimes I am very, very glad. Still, I'll touch it up tonight, no matter what the tiny whisper that was my sanity begs me to avoid. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 06:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Ronichu's work ethic never ceases to amaze. I only wish He did not have to suffer so much for it.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::* Truly a god among men. I take my hat off to you.--[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 08:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Problem with brackets? ==

When I edited this article, the brackets were removed from two words (such as [[glasses]] or [[CWCki]]) during both of the edits. The hell? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 15:31, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* CWCki was mentioned, but not bracketed, in the intro at the time. I couldn't find a logical explanation for the glasses bracket, though. Either the Wiki glitched or it was ninjas. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 19:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::* I think it might've been ninjas. The sneaky bastards. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 19:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Date ==

Da Update states this video was leaked on the 21st, this article states the 22nd. The CWCVilleLibrary account has the upload date as the 21st. I r confuse. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

==No shit is too minor ==

We need to identify what his ringtone is. --[[User:Exemplary|Exemplary]] 23:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
* This is probably obvious, but I figured it's worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure it's from a Sonic game. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 00:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** Haven't played a Sonic game in years, but it kind of sounds like Casino Night Zone.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 07:14, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

==Bra size==
Just to put on record, 42 is his band size, not his cup size, so it's hard to say how big his manboobs are. ...but they're bigger than mine, and I'm an A cup. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 02:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Well, using the page image and this chart[http://lingerie.lovetoknow.com/Bra_Size_Chart] as references, I'd guess he's a C. Maybe a D, if the sports bra is squishing his boobs. [[User:Schismtracer|Schismtracer]] 02:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* During the muscle bra photo set back in October, Chris mentioned his size to be 43...is this an accurate size, or a misconception by Chris? And now it's a 42. Is this evidence that he's actually lost a little weight? Not a huge deal, but again, no shit is too minor.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 06:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** He measured 43 inches in October, but he purchased size 42 bras. They only come in even-numbered sizes, and I'm sure he choose the smaller size for better holding power. (As for his weight, he looks like he's packed on a few more pounds, not lost some.) Did anyone else notice the weird gleam of pride in his eyes when he said he has a 42 bust? Jesus titty-fucking christ. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 08:02, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
***Not knowing much about bra sizes myself, I have to ask. How big is a C or D cup? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* It's all relative, really, depending on the size of the torso they're attached to. If the circumference of the torso at the nipples is three inches greater than the circumference just below the breasts, that's a C cup. D cup is four inches difference. So on a woman who's in good shape, a D cup approaches porn star proportions, but Chris's floppers could easily be D-sized because he's so fucking fat. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 21:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Bigger than mine too, I was coming here to bitch about that...considering that it's a sports bra, it's possible that he's referring to the sizes on the sports bra packages rather than actual bust measurement. I have a hard time imagining that he'd do all this[http://www.ehow.com/how_2311500_measure-bust-size-sports-bra.html] to get an accurate measurement. I'm horribly unfamiliar with exactly how sports bras are sized, but if he's really got a 43" bust, then he might be a DD[http://www.enell.com/size_and_measurement_chart.php]. - [[User:Boop|Boop]] 00:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
**There's a fair chance it's accurate as he made some lucky WalMart employee measure his bust for him. Granted, I guess it's entirely possible that they just did it quickly and inaccurately just so they could get it over with. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 02:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Side note that I just noticed: [[Sports_bra#The_bra_e-mail|This page]] has him stating he's actually a size 43.

Talk:PS3/How the PS3 is Hacked

2010-05-04T12:41:02Z

Borednewb:

You bitches, I wish I could make the god damn thing explode. This is the second best thing. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

* If Chris finds out about this, your secret plans are ruined! --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 05:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Damn.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:54, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh Clyde, you cad! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:56, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Clyde. I want your babies --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 05:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

How was his PS3 bugged? Who bugged it and when? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 05:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
*It was bugged with a super duper secret thingamajig that sends stuff to us. How do you think we got all those leaked videos and whatnot? It's because of the PS3 bug, obviously, DURR. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:41, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Fuck, I love that super secrit agent who was in there in those videos. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 05:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Yeah, I know the PS3 was bugged. I was just wondering how it got in there. I guess it was probably the FA from those videos earlier, but I'm not sure when he found the time to open Chris's PS3, install the bug, and close it up without getting caught. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 06:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Impressive. Most impressive. Clyde, you are indeed a genius. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 10:45, 21 April 2010 (EST)

My mind is blown by this. While wannabes are making plans involving Trannies and shovels, REAL trolls bug his PS3! Chris is way too naive to figure this one out. Clyde, you are my new hero. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Jesus Christ, Clyde, do you realize how dangerous this is? If Chris finds the bug and takes it to the cops, they might be able to trace it. This one operation might destroy the trolls once and for all. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 17:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:This happens all the time - no one can be bothered to investigate anymore. If Chris called the police they would just tell him he was wasting their time. There's no trick to debugging this thing - even a total moron could do it. --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 03:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Although, from what I've heard, the technology can adapt pretty quickly, so once one bug is disabled it's almost impossible to hack the system again. Anyone know the details? --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 03:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I have a question--how do I check to see if someone bugged my PS3? If so, I'd like instructions on how to remove the device.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:10, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
* This is a very simple procedure, actually. Simply clip the cables connecting it with a pair of wire cutters (or scissors or a knife if not available) and destroy it immediatly with a hammer. [[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 18:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
** Failing that, you can always contact Sony technical support. Note that Sony is a known proponent of all sorts of bugging devices (remember the rootkit fiasco!) so you may need to explain them ''thoroughly'' your disapproval of the situation and all of these circumstances that probably contributed to the bugging. Remember to also spread the word! It is not just that PS3s are ridiculously easy to bug; we should raise awareness of the fact and force Sony to make them harder to bug. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 18:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
**Also remember to ensure they know your PSN account name so they can track who is bugging your PS3 & remove any information stored on your PSN account by the bug. I had one on my PS3 once and even after I removed and destroyed it they found a virus on my PSN that relayed information through the internet every time I logged on to the network. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 04:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Hells yeah! You done stepped up the game, that's what you did... [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 19:41, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Ha! Luckily, the Hexbox is far far FAR harder to hack, because [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a1CzNGNdrs it's being watched from inside]. (The video also reveals why this bugging business in PS3 is really hard to pull off. Or maybe not that hard. Hats off.) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 20:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh my God...Mr. Cash, does this mean we will never see another file from that PS3? --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 03:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

How did you get access to his PS3 in the first place?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 11:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

How long has that bug been in place? --[[User:Aldrasio|Aldrasio]] 14:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

You know what I think we need next? A tracking bug on his medallion and a hidden camera in his room. [[User:SparklingOrange|SparklingOrange]] 03:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:I fully agree with this proposition. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

So, quick question... what if chris tries to take it out manually? Will that mean he will break his system and finally destroying his PS3? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:* No, the bug is completely separated from the PS3 itself, just well disguised. Fuck, even a stupid bitch like Chris could remove it. Thankfully he's just too lazy. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 12:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Muscle bra

2010-04-27T08:43:05Z

Borednewb:

{{taxpayermoney}}

[[Image:Sports-bra-DERP-dumb-look.jpg|thumb|Happy Chris in a muscle bra and with [[PS3|life upgrade]]]]
[[Image:Cwcbraorig.JPG|thumb|Unhappy Chris in a classic bra]]
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|Chris with no bra whatsoever]]
{{quote|OMG, WOW! This material feel so, so, so good on my skin.|Chris in [[#the bra e-mail|the bra e-mail]]}}

'''Muscle bra''' is a [[CWC-ism]] for the [[Wikipedia:sports bra|sports bra]] that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is wearing on his [[obesity|manboobs]].

The muscle bra first appeared in [[October 2009]] in the leaked e-mail accompanied by photos. His usually bouncy moobs soon became less noticeable in subsequent videos.

Later the same month, Chris appealed to others to wear a muscle bra too:

{{quote|I highly recommend this to every dude who goes around shirtless: wear a muscle bra. Because nobody, and I mean nobody wants to see your dog-gone ugly pecs, they're so ugly and repulsive, ugh... creeps everybody out.|Chris in [[Clyde is Weaker than Water]]}}

==Chris and bras==

Chris seems to find the sight of male chest and pecs extremely unappealing and even offensive. In the April 2010 video message [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|Men Should NEVER be Topless]] he said he would actually make it a [[law]] for all men to wear bras. It is more than likely he makes this claim in a shallow attempt to [[homos|appear straighter]] than straight.

It is also likely that Chris himself find muscle bras to be a necessity given his unusually large breasts. Given his [[Chris and art|inability]] to differentiate differences in the anatomy of other human beings, Chris may possibly see it as necessary for other males to cover up as well, or more likely he simply wants to cover the fact that he needs one because of his big breasts by encouraging people who do not need one to wear one as well, thus hiding the actual reason for him wearing his fashionable sportsbra.

Chris clearly liked wearing a muscle bra so much that, around six months later, [[For_J-R's_Eyes_Only.MOV|he gave us a better look in a video]]. One might assume that the clean white bra here is a different one from the pale green one in the photos, implying that Chris has bought multiple bras. Given that things never get cleaner in the Chandler household, only filthier, this seems a safe assumption to make. We already know from the below email that Chris bought one set of sports bras in a three-pack, and due to his notorious cheapness we have no reason to think he did not do the same with the second set of bras. This suggests Chris has at least six bras. Chris also reveals in the video in question that he wears bras with a band size of 42. His cup size is unknown at this time.

==The bra e-mail==
[[Image:CWC_Bra_Review.jpg|thumb|One of Chris's many [[trolls]] making use of this new information.]]

<blockquote>
(omitted stuff)...

[[Stress]] causes Memory Loss sometimes. At least I undid the hacker who got into my [[YouTube]]. 

Also, I did my shopping today; I haven't been able to draw or color today yet, but I will set some time tonight. I got my copy of [[Guitar Hero|G.H.5]], my new 3-in-one-printer, and I found the sports bras at [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]]; 3-packs for $10 a pack. In leiu of going into the fitting room, I asked the nearby female employee to measure my bust size; I'm a 43. So I got a 3-set of 42; I've been wearing one for try... It is sooo comfortable, and my manboobs do not bounce as easily; I jumped a few times to see. OMG, WOW! This material feel so, so, so good on my skin. It's like a [[sex toys|Guitly Pleasure]] or something. 

Anyway, I got my exercise in today. I also went to [[McDonald's|McD]], Toys 'R' Us, Sheetz, Food Lion and [[Get-Tar Region|Target]] for applications; NO PAPER APPLICATIONS! OMG, it really ground my gears to realize that. Although at Target, I was not totally surprised; I went straight to their computer station and filled in their application online. But EVERYONE IS LIKE GOING DIGITAL WITH NO PAPER TRAIL; It Sucks! This is even WORSE Than that CRAPPY PowerWeb at [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]. 

Yes, you have read correctly, I HAVE ALWAYS HATED THAT DAMN, STUPID POWERWEB!<ref>http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/TwoMarys#Mary_Lee_Walsh Chris seems to hate the PowerWeb because it's a pet project of [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and he was too dumb to understand how to use it.</ref> Even in it's pre-released Over Advertising, which was TOTALLY UNECCESSARY. Every time I was FORCED into using that Damn System, I was always reluctant, and I had to use my Student ID No., which I HAD NEVER CARED TO MEMORIZE; I only glanced at a few numbers at a time upon entry, and "In One Ear And Out The Other" with that soiled piece of what would have been valuable information. You said I was the first person you met to Hate Kenneth; well, I'm probably the first person you met who Always Loathed the PowerWeb since its PreBirth. 

<nowiki>*</nowiki>[[stress sigh|sigh]]*

But I digress... and this bra feels sooo good.

Something else, I'll forward you an e-mail I sent to [[Kacey]] last night after our conversation to best start another concern of mine. 

I'll TTYL, 
Stay Safe, 
Chris.
</blockquote>

==Gallery==
===E-mail images===
<center><gallery>
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Image:Sports-bra-little-teapot.jpg
Image:Sports-bra-creepy-stare.jpg
Image:Sports-bra-with-crossed-arm.jpg
</gallery></center>

===Animated gifs===
<center><gallery>
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</gallery></center>

==See also==
*[[Chris and fashion]]
*[[Gaybian]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5645734 Chris's bras at Wal-Mart]

{{CWC-isms}}
{{Relics of Fail}}
[[Category:CWC-isms]]

[[Category:Relics of Fail]]

Talk:Chris and rape

2010-04-27T07:49:09Z

Borednewb:

Good stuff dude, but my only real qualm is this. First hand accounts (Mimms and Lucas) say that Chris was not particulaly rapist-ish. He was a bit close to Megan, but I don't think that he would rape someone. I certainly don't think if they turned round and yelled/cried at him to stop, he'd force them.

I don't mind recording what he's done, but saying he's a potential rapist is a bit far.

Otherwise, great work --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

*I basically just pulled this from the [[Chris and sex]] page and shuffled it a bit, added a header or two and called it done. I'm not stopping you from editing, for sure; I'm much too lazy to do much else. [[User:Lord Snotfolus|Lord Snotfolus]] 01:21, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

*I have similar sentiments. I have a fear that this article could devolve into a typical /cwc/ or PVCC post, which isn't what the CWCki is for. Like all Chris and... articles, we need to stick with the factual, namely that Chris hasn't actually raped someone. I think it only warrants its own article because it's a common topic that arises amongst trolls.

:I'll give it a chance. As for the [[Chris and sex]] article, we need to work a bit about it as just splitting or removing stuff isn't that simple. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

:Wait, when did Chris MEET Kacey? The link in "Chris, a man who groped a woman the first time he met her" goes to her page. I'm new to all this and there's a lot to catch up on, but I wasn't aware they met face to face. If so... brave girl. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 07:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Camerawork

2010-04-26T12:24:46Z

Borednewb:

[[Image:camerawork1.png|thumb|You can totally make out the face.]]
[[Image:camerawork2.png|thumb|Chris is real good at hiding his failures.]]

{{incomplete}}

{{quote|Q: Why do so many of your videos have a greenish-yellow tinge? A: It's one of the flaws in recording with Sony's EyeCreate Program (a downloadable Playstation 3 Application that requires the [[PSEye|Playstation Eye Camera]]); THEY NEED TO FIX THE PROGRAM, not only of that tint from Lack Of Some Light, but the Audio/Video skips that seems to occur during recording.|[[Common Questions|Chris, believing it's all in the equipment]]}}

Chris's approach to '''camerawork''' of all kinds is rather abysmal, whether we're talking about still photography or video work. Despite years and years of constant and obviously enthusiastic photography and home video making, Chris hasn't learned anything beyond the basics of this craft. Actually, the way he still routinely fucks up things proves that he is handling cameras far ''worse'' than your Average Joe... and as we've seen from what Chris has done to his [[PSEye]], "bad camera handling" can be interpreted in two ways.

Chris's video production efforts have been hindered by the fact that, despite of [[DVD|years of practice]], Chris doesn't know anything about cinematography. He's oblivious to several common sense ideas like "if you want to see anything at all, light the scene properly." Something that should be remembered when considering the poor quality of the results is that Chris [[Brutal Legend|never even checks his videos]] before uploading them.

== Framing the shots ==
[[Image:Gibson.jpg|thumb|Excellently centered image, with a delightful backdrop.]]

Chris assumes that if he can see the lens, then everything can be seen by the lens. He has no idea what it means to be in the focus of a shot, and is constantly standing way out of center, or is putting shit way too close to the camera, so that you can't even tell what the fuck you're looking at most of the time. When handling the camerawork directly, Chris often attempts to experiment with the camera's positioning without properly considering what his audience will see, and as such we are on the receiving end of [[Fail|masterpieces]] like the [[Videobooks]] and [[Sonichu's Edge]]. Additionally, his lack of proper equipment or controlled co-ordination tends to weigh down such endeavors with constant shaking, or disorienting angles.

== Focus ==

Chris relies extensively on autofocus. Autofocus usually works with a slight delay and it usually can't focus on subjects that are too close to the camera. Many cameras have specific autofocus mode or require manual focus for [[wikipedia:macro photography|macro photography]].

Chris's attempts at using manual focus, as evidenced in [[A Week With Christian Chandler]] (probably shot with a 35mm SLR camera from the school), have resulted in some rather blurry shots.

== Lighting ==

Most of Chris's [[YouTube]] videos have been lit completely wrong. Plainly put: If you're making videos indoors, ''you've got to turn the room lights on''; human brains can automatically adjust to different color temperatures, but film and video cameras either lack the automatics to handle this, or are constantly struggling in bad lighting conditions to figure out what's going on. Chris assumes that if there's enough natural light coming in for him to see anything at all, then the video is lit properly. As a result, many of Chris's indoor video shots have a distinct yellow tint.

Many of Chris's photographs, as in the Scrapbook and [[A Week With Christian Chandler]], have been shot against light (i.e., camera facing the light source). This usually leaves the subjects in shadow and obscures the details.

[[File:100 0575.jpg|thumb|right|Camera flash is not an effing floodlight.]]
Chris also commits a common novice mistake in thinking that camera flash completely negates the need for proper lighting (a [[naïve]] view of "if it's day, everything is OK, but if it's night, then just use the flash"). In fact, flash will highlight the front of the scene, but it can also over-expose the shot if the subject is too close to the camera. If the background is unlit, it adds a very big contrast and stark shadows.

[[Category:Hobbies]]

Talk:Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)

2010-04-22T00:29:46Z

Borednewb:

*Page created, need help on correcting the spelling on the title. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

** Shit, I missed it... Does anyone save the original page before he blanked it? --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:19, 19 April 2010 (EST)
::* He's using her pen name instead of her real name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::* SargentPickles, you can find a copy of the original in my user page /Sandbox. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Typo ==

Should be "CWC'''i'''pedia Page" instead of "CWCpedia Page"
:*I know, my error.--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Do we really need this? ==

I mean, this seems like it comes pretty close to violating the agreement. I know it's a Chris-Chan historical document, but it's not like we've mirrored every page on his website.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*There's no personal information on here, it's using her pen name and it IS a Chris-Chan dox. I think it should stay here.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*One solution I was going to propose is that we just not have an article for it, as we don't have an article for everything on CWCipedia at the time being. However, as Blazer said, it's now with her pen name which is more kosher and yeah. This is notable as Chris is beginning to write his own version of CWCki articles which is a significant development for Chris, as he's starting to delve into the CWCki. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Not to mention he's highly likely to heavily edit and remove pages relating to gal pals and his personal life after he realizes how retarded he was for putting them up in the first place.--[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 11:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Something new for Chris and Remorse? ==

"But there was a Monkey in the works, and that was "Damien"'s Doing; SHE HAD TO HAVE A Facebook Page with her REAL NAME and LINKS to her FanFictions on it."

Oh, so it's ''her'' fault the trolls got her personal info. Chris couldn't ''possibly'' be to blame in the slightest.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 03:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:Chris and remorse is virtually unchanged from the draft I posted ages ago. If there's one page that could use a serious overhaul, that's it.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:40, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
"At a future Social Group Meeting, I (...) would have appreciated an apology." is even worse and made me rage for 15 minutes. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 13:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:* I spent about the same amount of time in the ANGRYDOME. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I am re-reading the article and I have the feeling that Chris is a bigger sleaze that previously thought. Here's the part that makes my "Bull-Crap" sense tingling; he asked an apology from Wallflower for her insensibility in front of the "Social Group". If my hypothesis regarding the "Group" is true (It's a kinda informal group therapy), he exposed his grievances in front of the group in the hope they will became his "Personal Army" and force her back into a relationship with him. This is callous from him, especially if the said group is composed of people with low self-esteem and cognitive difficulties. If the group is also moderated by morons, I could expect the wallflower at the receiving end of peer pressure and this is disgusting. Any other thoughts on this? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:19, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*To be honest, I think that the hypothetical you proposed is probably what *Chris* thinks happened. Chris believes he is a flawless superhuman and can do no wrong; he probably thought this group of slow-in-the-minds would be easy to manipulate, much like how he thought the trolls were moustache wearing, cape twirling, cackling, cartoonish buffoons. He probably did exactly what you said, lying out of his arse, because it's basically his word against hers- especially if the new group didn't know him too well and tended to give socially awkward manchildren the benefit of the doubt. How well it might have worked is up for debate, but it's certainly something I can see within the realms of possibility. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:46, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

* Griffintown, your hypothesis may be correct, but I believe the social group he is referring to is a youth group from either his church or another church that tolerates him. If my assumption is true, perhaps it is his belief that because his group is made up of fellow Christians, they are obligated to put up with his crap and forgive him for any and all of his shortcomings, as that's what "Jesus would have wanted". When he did not receive forgiveness from the wallflower (And she even ignored him further) he went from apologizing for his actions to blaming her for not wanting to have sex with a disgusting, retarded man-child. His ego cannot handle the fact that some half-assed apology is not enough to make up for psychologically scarring her. Anytime someone rejects his apology, Chris immediately flies into a rage and, in his mind, whatever transpired is no longer his fault --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:11, 20 April 2010 (EST)
:*Of course he reacts that way. He is never apologizing because he accepts his guilt or wrongdoings - he is simply trying to get repercussions done with asap and without a big investment. He is probably already pissed because he actually has to take the effort and apologize - of course everyone should already have realized that he (Chris) is never to blame or guilty. So when you actually turn down his "apology" he immediately marks you as a troll and gets pissed because you dare to shove such stupid issues into a honest mans face. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 16:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::* This is the point that definite Chris; he thinks that his position is right regardless of what reality dictate. In the case of this article, he went as far as re-editing reality to fit his whims. As he said before on the Sonichu Forum, he got Friendzone'd at the end of January 2010. This means that this entire article is a blend of stalker fantasies (Massages, Kisses) and gross misrepresentations (The Social Group's activities seen as "Dates" and sharing a drinking straw as "Sharing DNA"). If the WallFlower present to him ANY form of apologies this vill validates the entire history of their relationship as written in this article. Yes, Chris is getting desperate. Another point; if SargentPickles's theory on the nature of the "Social Group" is true (Fellow Masochistic Christians), this might explain his lack of videos for the last few weeks. He might have talked to the group how he's "Internet Famous Without Leaving His Home" and was "encouraged" into quitting his habits. This explains why the video "F Abstinance" not only was taken down but went up in the first place; it's not the works of Rocky, it's the group's doings. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::** Indeed Griffintown... Currently, Rocky is more or less Chris's only form of commonsense. Without her judgment, he would have probably had at least 5 new internet "girlfriends" by now, along with a slew of new humiliating pictures. The real question is if he can somehow find a way to alienate or piss of his only remaining social support: Given his racist, homophobic and downright obnoxious tendencies, I'm amazed he hasn't been kicked out yet. But I seriously doubt that his church will be able to put up with him forever... Is there any way he could possibly be kicked out of a Methodist church? --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 17:38, 21 April 2010 (EST)
:::**If there's a way, he will find it. Chris is a genius in finding a way to shove himself neck deep into trouble. Let's leave him some time, he will find a way to be kicked out and slapped with a restraining order. If we look at the whole WallFlower mess, do we really think she stayed silent over this? She's in the same circle than him, she might talk about this around. Soon, it will be "The Game Place" all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::***I'm taking a long shot here, but is there any way that he could be coaxed into denying God? I'm not really sure he is a true follower. Deep down, he probably does think that he knows better than God. If we could get that out in the open, the church would call him out for it, he'd say sorry, he would obviously not be sorry, and he would prove that to them. They give up hope on him, he gets kicked out, he loses his support, and we have a defenseless manchild at our mercy. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::****I'm pretty sure that Chris hates atheists as vehemently as he hates homosexuals, so that scenario is unlikely. Personally, I'm in support of MoarLurk's idea of having Alec write Sonichu 11. By doing this, Chris will be caught in a catch 22: either he obeys Rocky or he defends Sonichu's (and by proxy, his own) honor. Considering how self-centered he is, he will most likely go with the latter. Chris will come back onto the internet and rage about how Alec is stealing Sonichu from him, and this will also prove to Rocky that there is nothing she can do to change him. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::***** A good idea. I'm wondering however, if we can get him kicked out for not accepting his other church members. His church is gay-affirming and probably has at least a few minorities in it. Considering Chris has more or less pissed on every single group that's different from him, I think that enlightening his fellow church members about his views will change their opinion on him drastically. All that needs to be done is for someone to hack his church's page and post a few videos of his homophobic and racist rants. Even Rocky has to have her limits, and perhaps if fellow congregation members start complaining to her or even leaving, she will be forced into taking action, and finally ban-hammer his ass --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:12, 21 April 2010 (EST)
::******The limit for the Church will be reached for the same reasons why "The Game Place" banned his HFA-ass; his all-inclusive unpleasantness. Since we are talking about Masochistic Christians, it might take a little longer than usual but it will happen. This might be facilitated by trolls if they get access to more info regarding the "YASG". Nude pictures of Chris and recordings of his insanity might have an impact on the more "sensible" members of the group. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
* It almost seems to be getting to the stage we should have a "Chris and Apologising" page, based on how many he's done and how pathetically false they all are. He seems to view apologies in the way a little kid does. You do something wrong, the teacher tells you to apologise and you can play with the blocks again. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 02:46, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:*[[Chris and remorse]] is actually supposed to cover that, It's just nobody updates it and it kinda needs a rewrite.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Sometime this weekened I may look into the page, then. If nothing else, include an up to date list of all the time Chris has apologised, along with evidence for every one that it's disingenuine. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 00:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I think that, while hacking a church page to tell them about Chris may not be the noblest thing we've ever done, I think we should take all necessary measures to get Chris out of there. Not just for us, but everyone else too. He's taken advantage of them before, trying to make a personal army out of a church congregation, hes expressed desire to rape Rocky and he doesn't even respect the customs of the religion. I say we go with that. Get up Twin Falling towers, Chris drops the n bomb, all his homo rants and sex videos and most of all, make sure you get the video where he tells God to kill Jason Kendrick Howell. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
: That's it. We have nothing to do but revealing to them the true nature about Chris. Soon, they will discover that their "Pity-Pet" loves to shit on the carpet. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Hacking the website isn't going to work--we've flooded the inbox with all the nudes we have a billion times, and the only result was "WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING OUR MEMBERS DO". These people aren't really Christian(by my definition), they're just idiots who adhere to the parts of Christianity they feel they can pull off without inconveniencing themselves. What Chris goes to every sunday is in fact a meeting of smug idiots who like to talk about how much more tolerant they are than other Christians--it is the defining feature of their church. I don't believe they think it's about God, Jesus, or living their lives according to what either of them said(or at least as close as they humanly can), I think they think it's about one-upping the evil intolerant fundies(who of course are all clones of Michael Phelps). Chris used to be around a real church--the moment he tried to PA the congregation by linking the pastor to ED, he got booted out--this tells me the pastor had common sense and didn't take shit from anyone. He's been trying to do the exact same thing at his new church and he's still there because, "Oh look, that poor, retarded, homophobic, racist, insensitive, smelly man. Let's take him in to show everyone how ''tolerant and accepting'' we are! Oh, that stuff he did? Uh...TOTALLY NOT OUR FAULT BY THE WAY DID WE MENTION HOW ACCEPTING AND TOLERANT WE ARE?". It's right on their front page, too--"WE ARE A PLACE FOR ALL OF GOD'S CHILDREN, REGARDLESS OF ORIENTATION/SEX/RACE". That's them boasting about how tolerant they are. The only way Chris is going to get kicked out is if we can conclusively prove to enough members of YASG or Rocky(who may in fact run the group) that Chris is beyond hope and not worthy of pity, and that would necessitate the utter destruction of their moral foundation. It's probably possible to get him out of the church, but I can't think of anything at the moment.
:*While I find Chris's abuse of my religion as his most disgusting trait, I really don't see how vandalizing his Church's homepage will help matters. He'll just cry and say that the trolls are twisting his words and that he was stressed when he did those things. They'll all see though his bullshit, especially if they check the dates the N-bomb and Jew-wiretapping videos were put up, but it'll be overshadowed by the fact that a bunch of slanderous trolls defaced their webspace. There has to be a way to white-knight his congregation, but that's not it.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I just remembered what the Church had written on his homepage regarding the "Web-Presence" of some of their members. I guess that vandalism will make them close their ranks. If we knew more about the "YASG", we could make bad publicity for them. We could find a way to pass the word that the group is accepting the presence of a racist homophobe in their ranks. This being said, at the nano-second their DOX will be known, EDiots will flood them with pictures of Chris in his mother's underwear. Kinda counterproductive. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:57, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*I think we have a duty to fullfill. Chris should not be around these people for any reason. He is hurting them, hurting himself, and we now have a full group who may just be manipulable enough to end up joining Chris, willingly or otherwise. These people need their saviours; The Internet. We must get through to them about Christian's true nature. He is a menace to everyone around him, and the longer he stays there, the more chance there will be of a third Megan case arising. I don't want to see what happened to the Wallflower happen to anyone else. Now that I have said that, Griffin and Beat are right. Maybe vandalising their page will not get our message across. We need to smoke Chris out of there. If we can get the Dox of at least one of the members, then we can send round information to each of them. Turn them against him. One by one. If we privately contact them individually and tell them about him slowly and calmly, then maybe we can coax them into sorting out the situation themselves. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*If I got letters from someone I didn't know telling me that the loser weirdo who went to my church was, in fact, a loser weirdo I would probably just be creeped out that someone actually sought out my personal e-mail address to tell me that.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Keep in mind that by now rumours are probably spreading about what Chris is like in the congregation. Chris doesn't understand the difference between tolerance of his creepiness and acceptance, chances are all the church does is tolerate him out of some refusal to turn away anyone. You can throw at them proof of Chris' creepiness all you want, if they haven't kicked him out yet, they probably won't for anything short of a criminal offense against the church itself. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 00:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Rename ==

Chris has removed personal references to The Wallflower's real name, in favor of her pen name. As precedence, we've mentioned her pen name else where and it's not quite as bad as her real name, though obviously someone could find her real name.

The wisest minds of CWCki (Clyde, Cogs, and myself) have agreed to rename this article to her pen name, but I have ruled that I will leave it up to you, the CWCki users to decide how we should handle this.

So I'm opening this up for discussion for renaming and vote whether we should rename it or not. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

* Pen name's alright by me, seems like a decent compromise. At this point it's a finger-in-the-dike kind of situation, trying to totally hide her identity is becoming more than faintly silly. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 03:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*As Christorians, I think we should try to be as close to verbatim as possible, to be honest. I don't know if it's the best idea overall, but I think we owe it to the CWCki to do it. And gawd knows I love the CWCki like a child. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 03:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

* I'm good with the pen name over the current name. I think what Dkaien and YawningSquirtleRedux said pretty much sums up what I could.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*I'd rather not use her pen name, but it's right there on the wallflower main page so why not.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

* Let's roll with the pen name. There's a precedent with [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|this video]]. Chris is bloody insisting on naming her, there's very little things we can do. This is a situation that should had been resolved IRL between the lady and the Man-Child. As Christorians, we have very little leeway on this and we are duty-bound to record Chris's pathetic existence in minute details. So I respectfully add my voice to those who have eloquently supported the use of the pen name. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:*So shall it be written, so shall it be done, given the overwhelming consensus thus far. As I view it, anyone who is going to see this article is going to have seen Chris's original article on the CWCipedia and I would argue that more people view the CWCipedia than the CWCki. Cogs has considered liberalizing our usage of Wallflower's name, given that Chris keeps dropping it while Clyde wants a more hardline response while I believe we should avoid using it unless Chris himself uses it (see Ronichu's suggested policy on the Wallflower main page). Ultimately, Wallflower has entered into trolling culture as shorthand for her name and there's been a taboo associated with mentioning her real name in the same way it's taboo to bring up Megan as a subject of trolling or contacting. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

::* Not at all constructive, but just to get it off my chest, I'd like to say that this entire situation is so fucking weird. This fucking internet, I swear, sometimes... Incidentally, as the author of the "heir to Megan Schroeder" line I wrote Chris an e-mail trying to explain what I meant by it. We'll see if he writes back. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 04:17, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

==You're All So Terrible!==

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Everyone here is so [[Chris|heartless]] and [[Chris|cruel]]. Never do you guys stop to think about the [[lie|great pain and suffering that Chris has had to endure]]. He had [[obesity|heartaches for 2 whole weeks]]! How would you all like to have you're Heart Levels shattered to 15-20% !? That's right, I'm sure you wouldn't. Now all of you should [[troll|do the right thing]] and leave this [[lie|beautiful]], [[lie|gracious]], and [[lie|talented]] man alone! --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 04:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Fuck you, you troll. We don't like your kind here. OUT. Or I'll banhammer you myself.--[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Sarcasm, sometimes it just doesn't fit the occasion. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, guess it came on a little strong there. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 04:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:* [[Talk:Mumble_6|Mumble VI]] already broke my heart level down to 11%, while TWICE listening to Julie and Chris fap in [[Mumble 3|Mumble III]] raped my heart level down to 4%. There's nothing DONE TO ME THAT MUMBLE 3 HAS NOT ALREADY DONE. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Ronichu, you do this, and I will personally campaign to have you instated as some sort of god. At the very least, the order of the Pickle. Above and beyond my friend. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 08:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Expect a big push on Mumble 6 (a'la Mumble 3) either tomorrow or this weekend. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 11:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Sign Destruction Video

2010-04-21T05:54:57Z

Borednewb: /* Transcript */

The "'''Sign Destruction Video'''", or "'''09062009'''", is a 6 [[September 2009]] video showing [[Chris]] violently tearing up the sign that [[trolls]] left on his front lawn on 31 [[2008#October|October 2008]]. He does this as a [[death threat]] against [[Vivian Gee]] and her family.

==Video==

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{{Infobox/video
| name = Sign Destruction Video
| image = {{#ev:youtube|ZWDyKBITEaA}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 06 September 2009
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Performance Style = {{Rage}} Rage
| Shirt = {{ClassicShortSleeve}} Classic Short-Sleeve
| previous = [[4 September 2009]]
| next = [[10 September 2009]]
}} </center>

===Transcript===
[[Image:EDSign.jpg|thumb|200px|The sign as it was originally found.]]

Hmm... Apparently, my, uh, heed of warning towards [[Vivian]] has gone unheard or otherwise ''[holds up [[Claw of Failure|claw]]]'' '''SHE DID NOT REALIZE THE FURY OF [[Chris and anger|MY WRATH]]''' ... and she has done [[Audiobooks|a terrible deed]]. So, let's begin it in with a visual aid... [''Bends down''] Stop me, if you have not seen '''THIS''' BEFORE! [''Chris picks up and displays a sign''] UNHHHG! RGH!

NOW WATCH WHAT I '''DO''' WITH THIS AS I WILL '''DO''' TO VIVIAN GEE IF SHE DOES NOT S- TAKE DOWN EVERY LAST ONE OF HER VIDEOS AND CLOSES HER [[YouTube|YOUTUBE]] ACCOUNT. [''Chris rips the sign apart, bangs the wooden stakes together before bending them. At one point he seems to try to snap the wood, but after a moment of effort thinks better of it. He then proceeds to stab the sign and the [[Clown Doll|clown doll]].'']

[''Picks up a clown doll''] THIS IS FOR [[Clyde Cash|CLYDE CASH]] TO EVERY LAST ONE OF [[Ryan Cash|HIS FAMILY MEMBERS]] '''INCLUDING''' HIS COUSIN VIVIAN! [''Beats the shit out of the doll, and then bites its hat off; then throws it away and continues to grunt and scream'']

'''RRRAAAARRGGHH!!'''

[''Jump cut'']

[''Sudden close-up on his face: first the eyes and then the bared [[fangs]]; more groaning'']

{{RageQuote|GHRAAAAAAAARRRH!!!}}

==See also==

*[[Vibrator destruction video]]
*[[Death threats]]

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{{Troll Videos}}
{{Health problems}}

[[Category: Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

Talk:Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)

2010-04-21T02:46:35Z

Borednewb: /* Something new for Chris and Remorse? */

Talk:Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)

2010-04-19T12:19:08Z

Borednewb:

== "The Wallflower" ==

I was under the impression that the only reason we still referred to Heather as "The Wallflower" is because Chris hadn't yet given her name out. Well, here we go. Is it time we drop this whole "wallflower" shtick? I think so. [[User:Kynes|Kynes]] 03:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

no, it's because she requested it. obviously she's going to fucking knife chris. i hope she does. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
* I agree. Unless she's making a stong stand against Chris IRL, he will not stop. There's nothing we can do except maintaining our part of the deal and blanking her name. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
*No. We aren't ED, we aren't Chris and we are better than Chris (by and large). Until the Wallflower changes her mind, she remains the Wallflower. Everyone with half a brain can find her real name now anyway if they want, even me and I'm super-spastic. I do agree with Clyde though, I hope she guts him like a fish. I would lol. Plus... I find 'The Wallflower funnier anyway. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:*I disagree. I would rather we include her name on the page but not link it to the Wallflower. I am very opposed to the censoring of any documents by Chris, as people deserve to see Chris's work totally unaltered and uncensored. We still have her name in various videos where Chris says her name but not link her to the Wallflower. That is my two cents. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==The Happy Couple==

I just wanted to send a big congratulations to Clyde for his marriage to Sarah, and for the birth of their child. It's so nice when a violent rape has a happy and totally believable ending [[User:Inkmonkey|Inkmonkey]] 04:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Based on Chris' knowledge of women and sex I'm not at all surprised that he believes rape = love. There is a Trope on TVTropes about it, after all. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::*This sounds like a pretty recent development. Wasn't Chris going on about how he was gonna slit Clyde's throat for raping panda just a few videos ago? Who's feeding him this information?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Point, but they're not mutually exclusive. Chris thought Clyde raped Panda, so was angry about it; not because he thought of how this might have affected her (HAH!), but Clyde took something from him. Chris probably just assumed that, as the trolls of he time told him, after the rape Panda got addicted to sex and married Clyde. Makes sense to me, bearing in mind this is Chris and he believes all kind of demented things. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* I wouldn't be surprised if to Chris there were two Clyde Cash's. Not to say he thinks there are physically two, he just thinks of two different people he attributes to the same person. 1. The rapist who is the face of every single troll. Whenever there's a troll (Billy Mays, whoever) he links them with Clyde Cash in his mind, the guy is the Avatar of the Troll. 2. The husband of a woman he once fapped too. Whenever thinking about him like this he doesn't think "Clyde and Panda", he thinks "Panda and her husband, who is Clyde". He publically wishes his ex gal-pal happiness while at the same time if confronted by Clyde he thinks slitting someone's throat is an appropriate measure, and doesn't consider the possibility these two things are different. I have no doubt if he was contacted by Panda and Clyde, and Clyde separately he would be polite in the first responses, and threatening in the second. Edit: Sorry, forgot the ~'s --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 12:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Should we do side-by-sides? ==

The folks at RationalWiki do [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Category:Side-by-side_articles side-by-side commentary] on weird stuff that's posted in the interblags (Example: [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Moon The motherfucking Moon]). Heck, they have [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible the entire Bible] out there for people to post comments on. I thought this format was pretty easy to follow. Should we do something similar to this CWCipedia page, and other longer ramblings that Chris has posted? --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 12:16, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
: Could be interesting, as long as it avoided being just "Lol Chris lies AGAIN". If we linked "Chris and lies" every time he lied you could navigate the whole site from a 'what links here' of that page. Maybe just direct contradictions of his statements, preferably with things Chris himself has said in the past. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 12:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)

2010-04-19T12:10:21Z

Borednewb: /* The Happy Couple */

Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)

2010-04-19T08:26:48Z

Borednewb: Wishing Pandahalo years of happy marriage despite wanting to slit Clyde Cash' throat?

On 18 [[April 2010]], Chris created a page on the [[CWCipedia]] detailing many of the girls he's known, (or believed he knew) over his lifetime.

This list offers yet another disturbing look into Chris's deeply fucked-up mind. While most people on the internet avoid revealing their own personal information, Chris has apparently ran out of things he hasn't told about himself, and is now revealing the secrets of others. The fact that he's doing this post-[[Wallflower]] is surprising, considering that she broke off all ties with him because he leaked her information to the internet. The only explanation that currently exists for this recent action is that Chris is either an idiot or an asshole. <s>Possibly</s> defiantly both.

The list contains a mixture of real people and trolls, and is apparently in chronological order since he met them. Oddly, he includes one of his grade-school teachers on a list that is otherwise 100% people Chris wanted to bang. Notable omissions include troll heroine [[Vivian Gee]] whom Chris has repeatedly claimed is a gal-pal, and the [[Hambeast|obese girl]] Chris went out with once. [[Rocky Shoemaker]] is also nowhere to be seen, which is unusual considering the inclusion of Mrs. Virginia Sanford, and the [[IRC (23 July 2009)|fact that he wanted to rape her]]. Another notable omission is [[Blanca Weiss]], whom Chris has finally identified as a troll. Interestingly, Chris finally admits that the breakup of his friendship with [[Megan]] was due to his own actions, and in no way implicates his trolls. He also seems cognizant that [[PandaHalo]] did not die in the Australian brushfires, though his new theory on her whereabouts is equally dodgy. It also seems odd he wishes her many 'many happy years in their marriage' when he has recently expressed a desire to [[Don't Mess With Me|slit her husbands throat]].

What follows is the text of the page, unaltered aside from Wiki styling, and attempts to conceal the identity of [[The Wallflower]].

==Page text==
I, [[Christian Weston Chandler]], have had a good number of women friends in my lifetime. They cared and respected me; they were ALL honest and good to me. Most of what my Trolls say when they DARE to drag their names through the mud with mine are [[Lies]] or Exaggerations. I am here to [[Chris and reality|set the records straight]].

==How Do I Get and Know So Many Women?==
**A Major Reason I have had more women friends then males, is mostly due to the [[Autism|Medically Found Fact]] (which was found early in my life) that I get along better with Females than with Males.
 -I am naturally [[Homos#Defenses against becoming homo|attracted to women]], Pure and Simple.
 -In my view, women are more sweet, understanding and honest than [[JERKS|most men]] are.
 -After they get to know me in person, women tend to [[Megan|like me]] [[The Wallflower|much more]].
 -I Am [[Chris and health|Good Looking]].

==The Women in my Life==

===[[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] (Spicer)===

My first female friend, and my childhood Best Friend, Sarah was and still is a very nice and sweet girl. She has affected me with positive encouragement in my life. Although I have lost touch with her since she married her husband, William, I will never forget her as the friend I have had longest in my lifetime.

===Tiffany Robinson===

My First Crush; she was a very pretty girl back in my Green County School days. We would hang out now and then during school hours and play. Then in the 4th Grade, she dumped me for some other boy. I do not know much of what she has been up to these days.

===Mrs. [[Virginia Sanford]]===

She was the most influential teacher in my life. During my years at Providence Middle School, she taught me better social skills, how to better cope with other people, bullies and life. With a positive and fun tomboyish attitude, she was a teacher any child would be most proud to look up to and be taught by.

===Natasha Turner===

Another girl, slightly older than me, who I felt fond of. I did not meet her until my Providence Middle days. We were next-door neighbors for a while. She hung out with me at the nearby School Bus Stop. She was a good girl.

===Laura Beth Dorazio===

I did not meet her until my Freshman Year at Manchester High (she was a Cheerleader then); she was two grades ahead of me, and apparently she went to Providence Middle and was in the same class as me during my time, but she advanced to High School about 7th Grade. She was a pretty girl; I had a crush on her that one year.

===[[Kellie Lyn Andes]]===

Kellie was my High School Sweetheart ([[Chris and reality|in my point of view]]). She was a pretty, sweet and smart girl in my class. We shared a number of classes together. After graduation, I kept touch with her for a while, then that touch got lost. Last I heard from a possibly hers MySpace page, she later got married and now has three children. If I could go back, I would date her [[Sex|and then some]]. I HAD TO BE NAIVE ON THE DATING SUBJECT BACK THEN!!!

===[[Tiffany Nicole Gowen]]===

She was a good girl and a good friend to me back in Manchester High. We shared a few classes, and sat at the same lunch table one year or two. She had a spot of a tomboy in her, and reminded me of Peppermint Patty. She danced with me at the Seinor Prom, and I look forward to returning the favor at the Class Reunion.

===Sarah Anne Bevel===

Another good girl of my class; shared classes and a lunch table. Not a moment flew by where I did not see her with her M.H.S. Sweetheart, Brian Smart (Lucky Dude). Last I heard, they broke up years ago now.

===Molly Quarles===

She was funny, sweet and possibly a bit quirky. We shared a few classes, and she was a cheerleader the same year as Laura Beth Dorazio during my Freshman Year, yet Molly was a Freshman too back then. Two years in a dating match-up thing they had every Valentines Day at M.H.S., I got matched up with Molly. The ONLY match-up I felt was a good match-up at all back then.

===Miranda Joyce Mitchell===

A pretty girl, and was a big brain of my Circle of Friends. We shared a few classes; she was in my Class as well. She helped me in the early days of my Website Days by redesigning the "CWC's Pok'eSite 2!" Logo; she did a great job.

===[[Anna McLerran]]===

I met Anna while she was working at a PacSun in Fashion Square during my young adult years and the early days of my Sweetheart Search. She was a good and honest woman. It made me sad when much later she and her family moved to Utah. I later learned she was a Lesbian, and I do not hold that against her at all.

===[[Megan Schroeder]]===

She and I were good friends for years when I was going to the Pok'emon TCG League and the Yu-Gi-Oh Tournaments. I was hoping she and I would become Sweethearts, but I [[Fuck Quest|got too close]]; [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|freaked her out a bit]] and eventually [[Megan E-mails|lost her]]. I still miss her sometimes.

===[[Sarah Jackson]]===

About during the time I was having an online relationship with one Blanca Weiss (Later learned she was a Troll), I met Sarah Jackson online. She was a good woman with sound advice and wisdom. She respected and understood me. Unfortunately, she got into an automobile accident and passed on.

===[[Sarah Cassandra McKenzie]], A.K.A. PandaHalo===

She was a true and good Sonichu Girl (Fan); in further conversations long after I ended it with "Blanca", Sarah and I established an online relationship, and it was good. Sadly, she would get raped by the troll, "Clyde Cash" and stolen from me with their fated child. For over a year, I had thought she fell victim of the Australian Bushfires of Janurary, 2009, and I mourned over her and kept her in my heart. I recently learned that she was still alive, married to Clyde and with healthy child. Even though my memorial dedications were apparently a loss, I wish Sarah and Clyde many happy years in their marriage.

===[[Ivy O'Neil]]===

Another online romance, but better... with Telephone Conversations. Ivy and I were entwined within our relationship for about 3 months; it was good. Then later on, when I was talking to a detective on the case of finding my Trolls and seeing justice done unto them, he looked into Ivy and her family; found NOTHING on them, even her father who was a Police Officer. Then in a mental quandary and confusion, I stopped talking to Ivy for a few months. She called me one last time after the time; I still felt confused. Then I hear from Vivian that Ivy committed suicide by hanging.

===[[Kacey Devoria]]===

As I was in the online combat for my own identity against the [[Liquid Chris|Brown-Stripe-Wearing "Christian Chandler"]], I found my way into his e-mail account. There I found the e-mail of his girlfriend, Kacey. I felt I had to warn her about "Christian" lying to her about who he was. It got complicated as I pretended to be him, so I could show Kacey my face, the Real Face of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]* of Ruckersville, VA, and Original Creator of [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]. Eventually, we would be good friends. Then with more complications, and "Christian"'s charm, she dumped me as a friend and got married to him. [[Chris and his Ego|At least she has MET and was FRIENDS with]] the Real [[Christian Weston Chandler]].*

''*The dual links to "Christian Weston Chandler" in this passage were put there by Chris himself. He has something of an [[ego]] problem.''

===([[The Wallflower]])*===

She and I had met in person at a Local Event in Charlottesville, VA. We started going out and were getting along together. We had plans on writing on a book together. But I made a huge honest mistake. To begin a small hype with the fans of her online FanFictions about our "Guardian of the Owl Kingdom", I started work on a level for LittleBiGPlanet. I uploaded a Foretaste Version of the level, stating that it was a "Chris Chan/Damien Anteria Production". Being Well-Aware of the Online Safety, I had thought she would be safe with me using her Pen Name; I HAD NEVER USED HER REAL NAME. But then my Trolls searched and found HER Facebook Page. The Trolls made a mockery page on their website about her; started harassing her and her family by pretending to be me on the telephone. Heather broke up our friendship, flat-out. If she did not have a Facebook Page, she would have been safe. But I have learned from my mistakes there.

''*Chris used The Wallflower's real name as the title of this section. We have changed it to "The Wallflower" as she has requested that we not reveal her identity. Unlike Chris, we are true to our word.''

==External links==
[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Gal-Pals_and_Past_Sweethearts The page]

[[Category:Chris-chan]]
[[Category:CWCipedia]]
[[Category:Historical_Documents]]

Talk:Mumble 3

2010-04-17T07:52:44Z

Borednewb:

==To do==

More concise summary, more orthodox (and complete) transcription. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:16, 21 November 2009 (CET)

:* I know my summary seems long, but it's actually not when you consider that the chat lasted '''two-and-a-half hours'''. I agree, though, that some concise write-up is needed above my summary (which is really more of an outline). [[User:Llort|Llort]] 01:14, 22 November 2009 (CET)

:* Shotgun --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 17:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
:* The timings need to go I think, which is sort of a shame, but they're not present in other summaries. What do people think? I won't do it until we can agree, so yeah. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 17:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Also, I know Clyde is getting cut out, bar his home truths, but whatever Chris says, 9/10 times Clyde is going to contradict him. We know this. It's a trolls job. I can prune lots more, but I think we ought to set out some guidelines for relevance. I got the date transcript down to about 20-25 lines of stuff, which was quite succinct. Should I carry on with that here? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:45, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

This needs an accurate transcription ASAP. People are debating over Chris's use of "commode" here and right now, if you're a dumbass like certain Chris-related image board users can be, it would lead one to suggest that Chris uses a chamberpot in his room or he has a toilet in his bedroom. Obviously this is not the case, as we have fucking pictures of Chris's room and he doesn't have a god damn toilet, not to mention we've seen a tour of his house, but a transcription of this would help establish a usage of Chris's usage of the word "commode" to establish that he's probably talking about the anachronistic term for a toilet and not a specific sort of toilet related device. Once done, we can use this as a quote for the [[Minor CWC-isms]] page to establish a definition of commode. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

"And recently, when I overflowed a commode I had to clean some of the wat- a little bit of the water that ha- that was on the floor, with floral nine and paper towels." I know I'm just a newfag and this sort of thing is completely blasé now to people used to Cwc, but am I the only one who thinks this quote needs more attention? In a chat with his nemesis and the (then) love of his life, in order to show how domesticated he is he goes on about overflowing the toilet. "I am so clean when I shit enough to cause a feaces avalanche I then clean it up." God damn. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 07:52, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

==MARCH MUMBLE MADNESS==
I'm gonna start tackling this shit. I hate you all, but not nearly as much as I hate myself.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 20:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:FUUUUCK AUDIO CUTS back later.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
::So honestly I did plan on doing more than three minutes tonight. That went well.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::This is like my apocalypse log now. I'm at 16:45 and this thing goes on for almost 3 hours. It's like staring into the abyss, knowing that the abyss not only stares back, but opens its gaping maw to shout "FUCK YOU!"--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Having read what you've done so far, if you need a second to cut your head off once you finish, I will to happy to put you out of your misery. No mere mortal should be forced to endure this. -- 06:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::your suffering will never end. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::I have stared into the abyss, and as it stares into me i'm ready to continue transcribing if Beat has given up hope. [[User:EnglishPickle|EnglishPickle]] 02:56, 01 April 2010
::::::: You deserve your medal --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::: When he mentions commode, is he talking about a toilet, or an old person potty chair? -PeaceCeapPea
:::::::::*Toilet, 99% likely, see comment in above section about Chris's usage of anachronisms. Also, it's four ~ to sign your comments, that way we also get a timestamp when you posted it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::*Oh shit I return.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:00, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
I am now at minute 36. English pickle, if you want to start adding chunks of this yourself, be my guest. I would love your assistance. I would love anybody's assistance. This thing is only one fith done. It's laughing at me.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:Your pleas have not gone unheard. I know of your pain from my own work on Mumble 6. Accordingly, The Principality of Ronichu will pledge eight hours of transcription work towards your cause either today or this weekend. Battle on, hero! [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:00, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::8 Hours? Don't get me wrong, that's awesome dedication, but I normally scream "FUCK THIS" after an hour and a half tops! 8 hours straight would probably drive me to suicide.
::Are you sure you're not some sort of super-transcribing robot from the future?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::: I prefer to work in long streaks. But, yeah, I had planned to do it in two chunks; one Friday night my time, one Sunday. And if I really was a transcribing robot from the future, I'd know about this conversation and say exactly what's needed to convince you I'm not. At least, that's what such a robot would say, anyway. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:31, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I got it to 47 minutes. Another drop in the bucket.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:19, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'll be ready to start my first chunk in about 20 minutes. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 11:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::It has begun.[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

==== Ronichu's Notes for Mumble 3 so far ====

- I broke the transcript up into sections. Some people like this (IMHO it makes it MUCH easier to edit, since you can just edit a section rather than the whole friggen thing) and some people don't. If you don't, just remove them and then abuse me on my talk page.

- Julie is a fan of Alizée. I added a link to her Wikipedia article. Incidently, the female Night Elf dance from World of Warcraft is based on her dance. Many [[User:Ronichu|sad, pathetic fucking nerds]] have fapped to this dance since it's basically a stripper dance. I would totally [http://www.wowwiki.com/Mana_Tap <nowiki>Mana Tap</nowiki>] that.

- Much like Pol Pot through the educated population, I purged 'Molvania' and replaced it with 'Molvanîa'. The correct spelling of fictional countries is of critical importance to my plans.

- Several tiny fixes. I didn't want to change too much since it's a huge amount of your work and I wanted to respect that. I also incorporated [[User:Anonymax]]'s changes, so don't stress mate.

- I added a link to the Wikipedia article for Sadie Hawkins Day. This is because, as an Ausfailian, I had NFI what Chris was babbling about. Now I know.

- I'M TRANSCRIBING THE CYBERFUCKING?! WHAT THE FLYING FUCK MAN. Okay. I transcribed almost the entire cyber scene in one take, with a once over to make sure I got most things. Because dude, ear rape. Ear rape. Ear rape. Oh GodJesus. I listened to Chris and a [[pedofork|13 year old boy]] fap. :'( Intently. :'( Transcribing every word. :'( What the shit.

- Four hours straight of mostly listening to Chris fap. I think I am gay now.

- I AM STILL TRANSCRIBING SO DON'T FUCK WITH IT JUST YET.
:Oh. I changed one thing that bothered me (Monthly Tugboat header link) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
*Wait... Chris and Bluespike cybered on this fucking thing? Dear god. I haven't actually listened to the whole thing before. Had I known that was on there... I'm so sorry. Nobody deserves that.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Bravery above and beyond the call of duty...--[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 16:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::* Six hours, forty minutes straight at the moment. I still owe you an hour and a half-ish on Sunday, but I feel it's always better to under-promise and over-deliver. I'll keep going on it, see what strength I can muster... to be honest, if I push it- I'd like to think I can get a substantial chunk of this knocked over this weekend. I want to say FINISH IT- I want to- but some dark, dark part of me just won't let me type the words. Under promise, over deliver. Let's see how I feel tomorrow. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:41, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* PS you guys can edit shit now if you like, I'm gonna be unconscious for at least 10 hours and I probably won't wanna do anything right away when I wake up.[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Ronichu man, I'm going to knock a few minutes off of this while you're sleeping. I'm not trying to step on your toes, I just don't want you to suffer more than you have to.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Alright, I brought this bad boy up another 15 minutes to the 2:02 mark. Considering the surprising amount of dead air time on these, it was much easier than the early parts.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:04, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:AsperchuMarkDeux.jpg|thumb|right|Let's finish it!]]
:::::*Don't worry mate, the night shift is here. You did great with the stuff before, now let's FINISH IT.[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

SingStar Challenge Round 5

2010-04-17T02:48:50Z

Borednewb: /* Transcript */ Minor fix up

'''The fifth and final round''' of the [[SingStar Challenge]] saw the two competitors each sing a song at the others request. [[IBAChandler]] sang (two versions of) "Can I Smell Yo Dick?" by Riskay. [[CChanSonichuCWC]] likewise performed two versions of "Lift your Eyes" by the Planetshakers.

==IBAChandler's Initial Entry==
Chris sings the final song, requested by CChanSonichuCWC, "Can I Smell Your Dick?", but changes the word dick to [[duck]] in each instance, therefore disqualifying him. However, in the information section of the video, Chris claims to be sorry for all that he has done to REAL Chris and [[Kacey]], and says that they are both his close friends. This is classic Chris, kissing ass in hopes that he isn't disqualified for cheating, while at the same time threatening CChanSonichuCWC with arrest from Chris's personal detective if he doesn't renounce his CWC-dom. In both of the Smell yo Dick videos, Chris manages to pronounce roughly 10% of the lyrics, with the other 90% being incoherent babbling, implying that Chris made virtually no effort to learn the song before singing it.

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| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 05 August 2009
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter = [[Image:Music.png]] [[Music]]
| Performance Style = [[Image:Reason.png]] Reason
| Saga = [[Image:Liquid_saga.png]] [[Liquid]]
| Shirt = {{BrownLogoShirt}} Brown Shirt with Logo
| previous = [[For_Kacey_from_CWC| For Kacey]]
| next = [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_5#IBAChandler's Revised Entry | Smell Yo Duck Too]]
}} </center>
{{quote|Can I smell yo d'''u'''ck?}}

===Transcript===
Hello, Chris. Well, I have been uh, mistaken, I have been in error, and I humbly apologize from the bottom of my heart. I did you wrong, I did Kacey wrong. But still, she had to know. That why I communicated in the first place. But she still cares about you, man. At least 'n that's you, you real lucky guy to er, get that. Even after lying to her like that for all of the time. But still, dude. My humblest apologies. Let's just hope we can put this behind us and please dude, please. Stop pretending to be me. It ain't worth it! It's not fun! You're gonna get yourself in jail, man! Identity theft is a serious crime! 'Specially after what you, the hefty bill you put up. Counterfeited my driver's license, with your picture on it. Counterfeited my high school diploma. Counterfeited my Piedmont degree. You've really got yourself up a big bill man. I hate to see uhh-d, I um, I mean, I will personally seen it, but I was talkin' to Kacey, she cares about you very much man. I just hate to break up the relationship between you and her. Especially one so HONEST, so TRUE. She loves you, man. I wuhh... things to make me feel bad. If you have to, if you end up going to jail after all this. So please dude, come clean. Yes, your name is Chris Chandler. That's it. No "-tian", No "Christopher", No "Ricardo". No "Weston". That's you man. So please man. Take off that paper medallion. Stop sellin' the fake merchandise, come clean, please. Come clean and I'll be right. Between you, between me, between Kacey. The whole world. Anyway I'll leave that up to you, as you sing "Lift Up Your Eyes" as I sing this track. Alright.

[''Chris dons a brown longsleeve shirt, and his orange Parappa the Rappa beanie. He wears a pair of sunglasses directly above his regular glasses.'']

Alright. Let's do this thing. Smell yo duck. From Riskay.

[''Smell Yo Dick from Riskay begins playing. Chris remains silent during the into, then sings along, badly. He replaces the word "dick" with "duck", violating the rules he thought up for his own contest.'']

[''Chris takes off his prescription glasses, and the eyeglasses fall in front of his eyes. He pushes them back up, and again they fall down. He repeats the process two other times before they stay.'']

The cards are on the table. You hold your hand. It's your move. Whatcha gonna do? Stop the charade, live freely, happily, or continue on and might end up in jail. Whatever you do, think about it while you sing "Lift Up Your Eyes" man. *[[sigh]]* Chris, you ok. You got your guitar playin'. You got more languages than I took. But still man, you need to quit pretendin'. With somebody you're not. [sings, awkwardly] God loves you by, your own name. Don't go makin' it look like someone else's. Especially with ID. Fake duhplomer and all that. Whatchyou gonna do, she gonna smell yo DUCK. Go ahead. Sing.

==IBAChandler's Revised Entry==

After being caught by [[CChanSonichuCWC|the real Chris]] replacing every instance of the word "dick" with "duck", he gives Chris four hours to sing the song TRUTHfully or face disqualification. Chris obliges, takes down the original and replaces it with a new version, then uploads the original just so the other can see his original message

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{{Infobox/video
| name = "Smell Yo Duck Too"
| image = {{#ev:youtube|TKJgdG3NGEA}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 05 August 2009
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter = [[Image:Music.png]] [[Music]]
| Performance Style = [[Image:Reason.png]] Reason
| Saga = [[Image:Liquid_saga.png]] [[Liquid]]
| Shirt = {{BrownLogoShirt}} Brown Shirt with Logo
| previous = [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_5#IBAChandler's Initial Entry| Smell Yo Duck]]
| next = [[CHRIS!!!_CHANDLER!!!| CHRIS CHANDLER]]
}}</center>
{{quote|I ''said'' the word. Now lay off!}}

===Transcript===
Alright, Chris, we'll do this another time. But remember the nice words that I had said to you earlier, and I meant it from my heart. Remember...those words...I said to you. Can't say I didn't warn ya, Can't say I wasn't nice. But, I'm warnin' ya, dude, be goo- try- do the right thing. Okay, DJ Quest, do it!

[''holds the phone to his hear in silence through the intro'']

[''sings "Can I Smell Your Dick" (very badly)'']

[''throughout the song, Impostor gets more and more uncomfortable each time he has to say "dick"'']

[''at 3:32 he seems to gag or lose his breath'']

[''at 3:47 he makes another gagging noise'']

That's what you GET! I did the word. I SAID the word. Now lay off! Remember my words, I'll re-upload that video, so you can hear those words again, and again, and again...aside from the song. Fort-unfortunately I deleted it from my "EyeCreate" program, so I can't edit it. Now sing "Eye- now sing "Lift Up Your Eyes", and THINK about it. Go ahead, Chris.

==CChanSonichuCWC's Entry==

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{{quote|Well, here it is Ian, last song of the competition...}}

===Transcript===

Well, here it is Ian, last song of the competition. I'm almost sad is over. Then I remember how much of my identity you stole from me. Mmm. I'll never get it back. Alright-well alright I already have take it back, looks like you'll never take it.

[''CChan sings ''Lift Up Your Eyes'' by The Planetshakers, in a very [[Ian Brandon Anderson]]-like way'']

[At 2:08 he comments mid-song, "Tryin' to steal my girlfriend?" which is part of the reason Ian wants to disqualify it.]

==CChanSonichuCWC's Revised Entry==

This version was made after [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|allegations]] made by Ian Brandon Anderson about differences between the video and song lengths in the previous video. The Real Chris obliged, sung the complete song and noted the lenght of it.

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===Transcript===
Hello Ian, [''sighs''] I said I'll sing-I'll sing your whole song but it's just the same thing over and over and over again you know? I mean, I don't see what's the point. You got some kind of secrets plan to troll me again? You know you troll me so much.

[''Chris sings, again in a very monotonous sound. Occasionally, after singing "And the Lord God almighty" he adds "and Jesus and the Mall Conductor Bear".'']

Mmm, yeah that was a pretty long song. Mmm, I agree.

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{{SingStarChallenge}}
{{Music Videos}}

Talk:Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008

2010-04-14T13:55:45Z

Borednewb:

For me, this video encapsulates all that is Chris. He messes his words up, shows ignorance about multiple subjects, screws up the wishes of the person who he believes is Megan, shows his inability to abandon childish things, his casual view of violence, shows how self centred his comic series is, shows him obsession with his own comfort and inability to handle such minor irritations like "my wrist rests on my fake guitar", lies about his love life, and abandons something (in this case the regular Q&A videos) shortly after it gets started. All this is missing is a violent outburst and threat to be THE quintessential CWC video. I know it's a very old video, but is there anyone else who thinks this video deserves some kind of special status? I'm just a newfag so it's not really my place to say, but this video really summarises the cheerful side of Chris for me. A lying, moronic, childish, creepy bastard. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 13:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

==Names of people submitting questions==

I was there when everybody was submitting questions for this, but I can't remember the usernames of the people who got their questions answered, and relying on Christian to enunciate clearly isn't working too well. If anyone has corrections, please edit the transcript. Don't assume I'm right about any of those names, except that cockmaster MachPunch. --[[User:MachPunch|MachPunch]] 20:49, 22 February 2009 (CET)

:*I'm not sure about most of the names either, and even for the ones that I am sure, I don't know how they're capitalized or anything.
:*I made one definite fix to your transcription of names when I replaced your "[unintelligible]" with "NintendoMafia", which rang out to me clear as day. I'm also confident that your "Stalin[?]" is indeed "Stalin", and so, I removed that doubt mark.
::*Stalyn. He was the founder of #chris-chan, the precursor to [[Sonichu (IRC)|#sonichu]]. I remember sending that guy a PM saying "Dude! You're in one of Chris's fucking videos!." It might be helpful to check out the old ED archives - many of the people who submitted questions were active with ED back then. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:59, 9 June 2009 (CEST)
:::*Okay. I'll make that spelling fix in the couple of places where his name is mentioned. As for the two other names below, I'll leave it to someone else to go researching them. I've already labored over this transcript enough for one lifetime. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 04:08, 9 June 2009 (CEST)
:*The two other names that I changed, I'm not clear about at all, though to my ears, what I've written sounds like a closer approximation than what you had. In one case, I changed "MudkipsStar[?]" to "OkiaStar[?]". I ''understand'' the "Mudkips" reference, but I don't ''hear'' it. (And yet, "Okia" really isn't a word or name either.) In the other case, I changed "AquaP[?]" to "AwfulP[?]". That at least sounded closer to what I hear, but again, I'm not sure that it's right. Like you, I invite corrections, especially from anyone who actually ''knows'' the names! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:49, 9 June 2009 (CEST)

CWCipedia

2010-04-13T06:04:12Z

Borednewb:

{{Honest}}
{{protip|Incorporate stuff from CWCipedia into CWCki to get the high score!!}}

[[Image:CWCipedia Introduction.jpg|thumb|right|Chris proudly claims the CWCipedia in the name of [[CWCville]]]]

{{quote|Abandon hope all ye who enter here.|From Dante's Divine Comedy, eerily summing up CWCipedia}}

'''CWCipedia''' (not to be confused with the [[CWCki]]) is a wiki set up for the sole use of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], as a sort of personal Wiki as opposed to Chris vandalizing the CWCki with his bullshit. Furthermore, it is designed to allow Chris to "get the truth out" as he so desired to do on [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile|his Wikipedia profile]].

Since its inception, Chris has more or less treated the page as free web hosting, a place to put his comics without having to pay for the resulting bandwidth use. CWCipedia also served as the ultimate test of the use of MediaWiki software and software usability, in that it strove to create a platform that even an [[autism|autistic]] manchild/lazy fuck can easily use. Of course, Chris, being a retarded fuckface, still managed to fuck it up from time to time, even with a Sysop holding his hand.

Chris has a tendency to let his mind wander while typing up his entries. For example, in his [[Sonichu]] article he ends up going off on a rant explaining what had happened to [[Kel]] (even though it didn't involve Sonichu at all), and the fact that Chris himself is the leader of the [[CWCville]] Pokémon gym. This leads into Chris describing his supposed gym at length, what Pokémon he has in his team, and his collection of Pokémon in the game (in addition to their level and how he had leveled them). This somehow leads to a fantastically retarded idea for a Pokémon game system that's basically just the holographic projectors from [[Yu-Gi-Oh]], except with Pokémon. After all of that dumbfuckery he gets back to talking about Sonichu again.

==The early days==
Several months after Chris began using the wiki proceeded without incident. He was able to display his comics and music, share more details of his personal life, reveal more background information about the world of CWCville, and shout his bizarre homophobic rantings from the virtual rooftops in peace. The administrators of the site remained a silent, benevolent force behind the scenes.

Towards the end of 2009, this would change.

==CWCipedia advertisements==
[[Image:Untitled.png|thumb|100px|left|Ensuring that Chris sees them EVERY TIME he visits.]]
[[Image:NewCWCipediaFrontpage.jpg|thumb|Chris's revised frontpage]]
As 2009 came to a close, CWCipedia's operators ran into financial trouble keeping the site in the black, given the many hits it gets on a daily basis and the profusion of large files held on its servers. To help keep the site up and running for its TRUE and LOYAL [[fans]], the Sysop that maintains the website for Chris turned to selling advertising space on the site. Keep in mind that these ads were all randomly generated by metadata created by Chris and the people browsing his site, not special hand-crafted ads made by [[trolls]]. Due to the somewhat complicated laws of the jurisdiction in which the servers reside, ads may only be purchased from within the European Union.

Chris makes '''NO''' money from the advertisement revenue. All of it goes to keeping CWCipedia up and running.

Chris responded to these ads with a few complaints to the admin and [[Jack Thaddeus]], who has so far been the only donor who has delivered over €1000, qualifying him to create custom advertisements on the site. [[CWC Blog#7 December 2009|In a blog post]], Chris hoped that ''someone'' within the EU would be able to step up and donate so much money that they'd not only qualify for custom ads, but help to ''remove'' the homoerotic ads that appeared on the site (even though most online advertisers give ''no'' such heavy-handed preferential treatment to premium advertisers, and indeed, no such stated policy exists in CWCipedia either). Even though it may be tempting for some European fans, the appeal of this opportunity seems limited. You can buy a [[PS3]] for you ''and'' your friend with €1000. Or buy three [[Hex Bawx|Hex-Boxes]]. Or four Wiis. Who ''would'' pass up such an opportunity?

On 27 December 2009, the ad space, which was previously at the very bottom of CWCipedia's navbar on the left side of the page, was moved to the very top of the navbar. Another ad appeared on Chris's main page beside the logo. On 28 December, Chris flipped out and replaced it with an ad for the his beloved [[My Coke Rewards]] program. The Sysop, however, [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu#Do_NOT_tamper_with_the_advertisements scolded Chris], telling him that ''he'' had no control over the ads.

On 30 December 2009 Chris, unable to change the now-protected main page, lashed out the only way he could, by adding a block of text to the bottom of his (already hideously ugly) front page image, declaring that no ads were allowed on that page. In the message he said that he would not remove this block of text until the offending ads were removed from the main page. To put this in perspective, Chris ''defaced his own website'' in an attempt to get someone else to stop advertising on it. You can guess how well that worked.

On 2 January 2010, Chris began cluttering the website with his ads again, shilling for [[CWC Cola|Coca-Cola]], [[Wild Sonichu|Avatar]] and [[It's UGH!|Proposition 8]]. He took his self-bestowed title of [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|Captain]] to an absolute extreme, posting the following message to CWCipedia:
{{quote| I have another pair of pages for today, and I will answer another [[Mailbag]] or two after uploading. But I also have another announcement; Jack thinks he can get away with occupying my Introduction Box with ANY Ad, well I have a few items I fully support as well. I will be placing my own Ads around the Cwcipedia, as I assert My Rights to do so [[Chris and his Ego|as Captain of this website vessel]].
'''I DO NOT WANT MY ADS REMOVED OR REPLACED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF.'''}}

Additionally, Chris posted the following message to his [[Twitter]]:
{{quote|C.C. Sonichu says:...Removal of Any of ALL of MY Ads is consider Mutiny, and [[Chris and Anger|Mutiny will not be tolerated.]] Stay Safe, and have a good day.}}

As to whether or not [[Jack Thaddeus|Jack]] will receive forty lashes less one for his inevitable insubordination, Chris has no comment.

Due to gay porn ads on the CWCipedia, on 01 [[February 2010]] Chris [[Address to Mao, the S.O.B.|unleashed]] a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] upon Mao "Bamboo" Ling, after which he "[[Apologies to Alec and Evan|apologized]]" to Alec and [[Evan]].

Eventually, on 26 [[February 2010]], Jack Thaddeus returned with an unclickable ad reading "JACK'S BACK" (in text, later converted to a jpeg) and featuring a picture of a man releasing his [[navy]]. Chris, surprisingly, never reacted, even though he has a [[Homos|giant homophobic ass]].

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==The Twitter feed==
{{main|Twitter}}

On 25 December 2009, the WikiSysop added a live Twitter feed to the [[Mailbag|mailbag]]. This was short-lived, as on the early morning of the 27th Chris removed it in a fit of rage and added the following note:

{{quote|o I will have NO DISCUSSIONS GOING ON BEHIND MY BACK ON MY OWN WEBSITE WHATSOEVER!

I DO NOT SUPPORT YOU GOD DAMN GAYS!!! I F***ING HATE ALL OF YOU WHO ARE THE MAJORITY OF TROLLS WHO MESS WITH ME AND MY LIFE!

GO GET YOUR OWN LIFE AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

NO TWITTER ALLOWED!!!|

--ChrisChanSonichu 04:31, 27 December 2009 (CET) }}

Exactly five minutes later Chris would create a special page for the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Twitter Twitter] feed, and delete the homophobic outburst quoted above. Chris would create a Twitter account for himself [[Chris and hypocrisy|the very next day]], regaling his fans with stories of him doing yardwork. The wise and magnanimous Wiki Administrator later put to the feed to the front page of CWCipedia, due to the fact that ''(ahem)'' it probably needed some wider exposure.

== A history of (un)availability ==
===CWCipedia closed due to a<strike>I</strike>DS===
[[Image:CWCipedia-Home-Copyright.jpg|thumb|The CWCipedia as it appeared on 1/1/10]]

During the last weeks of 2009, Chris became more infuriated as the gay ads continued piling up. In desperation, Chris began placing ads of his own that didn't inspire uncomfortable questions about his sexuality. The Sysop became furious at Chris's unauthorized interference and warned him that if he didn't remove the ads, serious consequences could happen.

On 2 January 2010, the CWCipedia was served a cease and desist notice by the Coca-Cola Company for its unauthorized use of their logo on the site. Thus, the Sysop was forced to close the website for a few days until the matter could be resolved. Having learned a little first-hand regarding what [[Chris and copyright|copyright law]] is all about, Chris issued an [[This_was_my_fault|apology]] on YouTube. In the video he claimed that he thought Coke would appreciate the free advertisement, but he is completely unaware that no self-respecting company would ever want their product to be associated with his website of fail.

Within a few days the site was returned to normal.

===CWCipedia closed (again) due to theft===
[[Image:Cwcipedia closed again.jpg|thumb|right|The CWCipedia's source page as of 2/6/10]]
In the early morning of 6 February 2010, the CWCipedia was closed down again, this time thanks to a DMCA request from representatives of [[Evan|Evan George]]. According to the request, Chris's use of the character [[Simonla Rosechu]] on his website and in his comics infringes upon Evan's intellectual property, as Simonla is clearly a derivative of Evan's character [[Fan:Simonchu|Simonchu]]. This was most likely triggered by Chris's announcement, [[5_February_2010|in a video from 5 February]], that he agreed to do away with Simonla and stop featuring her in his comics, but only at an unspecified "later" time.

Three days after the CWCipedia was locked to edits, it was wiped from the internet entirely. In its place appeared a redirect link to Asperpedia; however, due to a bug, it redirected to an online role-playing game, ''Dogs of the Seas''.

===CWCipedia lives on===
On 12 February 2010, the CWCipedia was revived to a certain extent. Although it was still locked to edits and only a "login required" screen was accessible, it was functional enough for Alec Benson Leary to display the first two pages of "[[Asperchu#Sonichu_Revolution|Sonichu Revolution]]." The next day, Chris fulfilled [[Evan]]'s request and the CWCipedia was restored for all people to see. "Sonichu Revolution" continued onward from there, prominently featured at the top of every page of the CWCipedia.

On 24 February 2010, a new set of ads appeared on the CWCipedia, calling Chris out on his [[Christian Love Day (video)|unwarranted self-importance]] on his birthday, with a message from [[Fan: Moon-Pals|Sean]] imploring fans to give gifts to victims in Haiti instead. The next day, CWCipedia vanished for a couple of minutes for unknown reasons. Likely due to Wild and Simonla's [[Sandy Rosechu|bastard child]]. When it returned, for a few days visitors were treated to the sight of a series of animated ads featuring gigantic ejaculating cocks, revenge from Jack Thaddeus in response to Chris's execution of the Asperpedia Four at the end of [[Sonichu 10]].

===CWCipedia closed due to parody===
{{quote|Also, you might want to take a look at your site before you go around advertising it... Some pretty vulgar vandalism you have going on there on a majority of pages.|Some guy on LittleBigWorkshop. Chris never read this and discovered the vandalism the next day.}}

Going into March 2010, Chris appeared to lose all interest in updating the site or presenting any meaningful new content. He neglected updating the Mailbag and stopped uploading new comic pages. His only additions to the site in the first three weeks of March were a series of rants directed at trolls and his fans, where he accused them of breaking up his pursuit of [[the Wallflower]] and complained that the demand for new Sonichu comics was ruining his life.

On 18 March 2010, CWCipedia was taken down and replaced with a redirect to a [[parody]] version of the website run by [[Mao]]. The Sysop had decided to allow Mao to buy a permanent redirect for 100 dollars. Since Chris was the captain, he decided to sail the U.S.S. CWCipedia into an iceberg and let it sink, making Jack pull all his funding and forcing the Sysop to shut the site down for good.

===CWCipedia opened for everybody===
{{Quote|STOP THIS!!! THIS IS MY DOMAIN, and I WILL NOT HAVE YOU FAGGOTS SCREW IT UP!!!|Chris, somewhat upset.}}
[[Image:Niggachris.jpg|thumb|One of the hundreds of images uploaded by trolls during their epic vandalism.]]

A day later, however, the original CWCipedia returned. At the same time, Mao was given sysop, bureaucrat, and oversight powers on the site, suggesting the arrival of a new "captain" on deck. The result was much good vandalism, most notably on the main page itself, by "Kine", "SEANBOTMK2", "ALECBOTMK2", "EVANBOTMK2", and "Metal Asperchu." Soon, account creation was enabled for all and the website was utterly vandalized in a flurry of [[duck|genitalia]].

===CWCipedia closed to outside edits again===
Early on 22 March WikiSysop returned to the site after being [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu&curid=46&diff=5987&oldid=5928 busy on other projects] and quickly reversed everything back to the pre-Mao state of the site. However much of the pictoral vandalism continues to remain in the history of many of the pages, and several pages were not changed back, either due to WikiSysop skipping them over or not caring.

===Broken dead===

During the early hours of 31 March, the front page of the CWCipedia [[Patti Chandler|decomposed]] into HTML code. This was attributed to the nature of the 110mb server. The [[Honest content|true and honest]] version created by [[Mao]] is still up and running.

===Resurrection===

Whether it was through coincidence or an act of Godbearjesus, the CWCipedia came back on Easter Sunday. It is more likely that some technicians actually worked through the easter weekend just so an autistic manchild can carry on putting up badly drawn comics when he feels like it for his [[Trolls|fans]].

==External links==
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Main_Page CWCipedia]
*[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page CWCipedia (pre-vandalism)]
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Special:Recentchanges?hidebots=0 Recent Changes] - monitor Chris's (and the bots') latest updates
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss Recent Changes RSS Feed] - receive Chris's latest updates automatically
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_13] - Some vandalism that still remains.

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Chris and his ego

2010-04-11T08:21:15Z

Borednewb: /* Tender Misanthropy */

{{quote|Firstly, YOU WISH YOU WERE ME...|Chris, [[Mailbag 10#Rejected Mailbag|Mailbag 10 (Rejected)]]}}

{{quote|For every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.|[[Chris and religion|Luke 14:11 (English Revised Version)]], really hitting the nail on the head}}

'''Egotism''', out of all of Chris's flaws, is the most important and self-destructive. It is this egotism that may one day lead to someone playing [[Kick the Autistic]] in real life.
[[Image:SchuComic0P44.jpg|thumb|'''egotism''', (noun): the belief that your pain (getting kicked out of the mall for being creepy) trumps all others (divorce and loss of beloved children)]]
==Origins==
Why is Chris such an egotist? In his sheltered childhood, his enabling parents taught him to shift blame for all of his troubles to other people. A sense of entitlement, again homegrown, skewed his perception of the proportionality between his problems and those of other people. Chris doesn't completely lack empathy; he isn't a sociopath, but the internal 'scale' by which he weighs the feelings of others is completely twisted. His autism compounded the problem by making it difficult for him to understand social cues and relate normally to his peers. [[Chris_and_reality#Outside_of_the_comics|He grew up in a different world.]]

But that explains why Chris ''was'' an egotist, ''struggled with'' egotism, or ''has tendencies towards'' egotism. While Chris's childhood was less than ideal, it shouldn't have been quite so crippling. Time and experience should have helped temper his ego, but Chris's development appears to have completely stopped altogether. Chris is still an egotist because he lives in a social time capsule that has allowed him to carry on for the better part of a decade without a single life lesson. And he still lives in that time capsule because it is easy, it is comfortable, and people let him.

===The Enablers===
[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|Exhibit A]]
{{quote|He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.|Proverbs 13:24}}
Chris's parents are enablers ''par excellence''. There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a man that is almost 30 years old and has autism should live at home with his parents, especially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be. Adults with far more crippling mental health problems (from emotional disorders to mental retardation) live far more independently than Chris does, whether alone, alone with supervision, or in group homes.

For children like Chris, public school special education is generally geared toward helping the child understand how their disorder affects their lives, and what strategies they can use to minimize its impact. This is a well-documented and well-supported strategy, but it relies on "buy-in." Chris's parents clearly never bought into these strategies, because they never fostered any interest in instilling any form of independence in Chris, thus undermining the entire regimen of special education and ending up with a man-child with entitlement issues.

===Monthly Tugboat===
{{Main|Chris and Money}}

{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. |.}}

Chris receives welfare from the government; a [[monthly tugboat|"monthly tugboat"]] as he calls it. Although intended for people who were unable to work, Chris continues to abuse the welfare system due to the fact that he is simply unwilling to work on anything except drawing [[Sonichu (comic)|his shitty comic]], [[Video games|playing video games]], and [[Love Quest|trying to find a girlfriend.]]

Regardless of whether Chris is abusing the welfare system, his parents are abusing it through him, or the system itself is flawed, the fact remains that the monthly tugboat that he receives is a major factor in making Chris's lifestyle—and thus his worldview—sustainable.

===Blind Luck and the Cherry Picking Fallacy===
[[Image:SlamAttack.jpg|thumb|Local Boy Levels Up]]
[[Image:391-SchuPVCCArticle.jpg|thumb|left|Article in PVCC's ''Forum'']]
[[Image:Famewhore.jpg|thumb|McIntire Park]]
A [[GameStop Be A Star Sweepstakes|contest]] or [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|two]] here; a [[Chris Chan in the PokéNews|two-second local TV blip]] there. The results are that outside events most people never experience have stroked Chris's already monstrous ego.

Consider that Chris has produced a ''huge'' volume of fanmail, letters-to-the-editor, internet commentary, and other drivel. Each letter to Nintendo is a message in a bottle: most of them never return, but the one that does—on an official letterhead, and addressed to Mr. C. W. Chandler—is confirmation of his celebrity.<ref>[[An Official Sonichu Update]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Yeah...it says here that, uh, yeah...they—th—it goes on to say that:

:"Nintendo of America has some of the most devoted, enthusiastic fans of any game developer. Each week, they receive, uh, hundreds of thousands of suggestions about their games and systems. While they would love to, uh, use ideas from f—fa—from fans to develop actual products, due to the volume of the, uh, requests they receive and the resources it would take to process them, they do not accept unsolicited game or product ideas. But they are committed to being at the leading edge of game and hardware development, though, and they can be sure that they are constantly at work developing new and exciting products and game ideas."

Now, uh, here's the interesting part...where they quote about how I can actually...go further about ch—about them changing their minds and actually accepting the idea and helping me, uh, makin' it—makin' it totally real...with the video games and the TV animations and the action figures, and...officially-released—my personally-approved...medals... ''[...]'' they say that, uh, the best way to let other fans know about my idea or to generate hype about the future game I'd like to see is to post the ideas to the forums on their sites.}} 

As if Chris didn't think his material was golden to begin with, he got a second nod from ''Nintendo Power'' for his epic [[Animal Crossing Documentary]], and a page in [[PVCC]]'s ''Forum'' as icing on the cake. Even before his e-fame, Chris had plenty of evidence to convince himself that he ''was'' creative, and not just a high-volume, whiny jerk that had pestered his way to acknowledgment. As he graduated from [[PVCC]] in 2006, his writing shows that [[Sonichu]] was, in his mind, already tested: there was just some small threshold of notoriety or connections that needed to be breached, in order to become a true media sensation.

On top of that, Chris has a huge amount of free time to inject himself into situations like the [[McIntire Park]] meetings, which allows him to cherry-pick more moments of recognition. A tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment by the local council seems cute to us, but is serious business to him. And since Chris cherry-picks only the reinforcement that he wants, his legions of [[troll]]s just add to the fire. Delusion has led him to believe that he has a legion of fans; a few hundred emails in his inbox confirm it.

==Narcissistic Personality Disorder==
It's entirely possible however, that Chris suffers from [[Wikipedia:Narcissistic personality disorder|Narcissistic personality disorder]], whose diagnosis criteria detail many of the characteristics that Chris exhibits.

{{quotebox|The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines narcissistic personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1.has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

2.is preoccupied with fantasies of [[Sonichu|unlimited success]], [[CWCville|power]], [[Honor roll|brilliance]], [[Chris and fashion|beauty]], or [[Sweetheart from the ground up|ideal love]]

3.believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

4.requires excessive [[Fanbase|admiration]]

5.has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

6.is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of [[Sweetheart|others]] to achieve his or her [[China|own ends]]

7. [[Chris and death|lacks empathy]]: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the [[Megan|feelings and needs of others]]

8. is [[JERKS|often envious of others]] or believes others are [[Kick the Autistic|envious]] of him or her

9.shows [[Mailbag|arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes]]}}

As you can see, these criteria describe Chris's ego, right down to the sense of entitlement.

==Manifestations==

Chris's egotism manifests itself in many ways.

===Unwarranted Self-Importance===
[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg|thumb|Very gracious.]]
:''See also: [[True and Loyal Fanbase]]''
{{quote|I have had way over a million fans worldwide since I went online in before 2000.|-Chris, [[Mailbag 48]]}}
As overwhelming as Chris's unwarranted self-importance is, it's easy for the novice observer to get lost in the sea of ''Sonichu'' shit and assume that he's just confident in his e-fame. "Of course," you say, "he's got a billion hits on YouTube and a thousand emails in his mailbox. He's going to think he's hot shit, like every other retard on the [[DeviantArt|internet]]."

But nothing sums up Chris's deep and abiding USI like this missive to [[Mary Lee Walsh]]:<ref>[[Mary Lee Walsh#Emails with Mary|Emails with Mary]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following:

*I will never hang notes on the wall again.
*I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.
*I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points (0=No Respect...10=Respect).

Please reply via E-Mail.

Christian C.}}

E-fame just adds a whole new dimension. He was a misunderstood genius before; now he's a misunderstood genius with a [[personal army]].

{{quote|III'M. WOR-KIN'. ON IT! LET ME DO THAT STUPID VIDEO SO I CAN TELL [[True and Loyal Fanbase|E'RRYBODY, IN MY COMMAND]], TO GET EVERYTHIN'- HELP ME GET EVERYTHIN' OFF THE INTERNET!|Chris, [[THAT IS MY HOUSE]]}}

It's so bad now that when Chris meets someone new who claims not to know who he is, he seems skeptical and surprised.<ref>Exchange with the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Meet the Pickle .2801:21:44 - 01:25:29.29|Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>

{{quote|Y'all should know me by now, but if you don't, I am Christian Weston Chandler, the original creator of Sonichu, the Electric Hedgehog Pokemon, back on March 17th, 2000.|Chris, in his [[CWC's Second Message|second YouTube video]]}}

The instant-gratification, instant-acknowledgment, and instant-attention—good or bad—that has come with his minor e-fame of the last few years has thoroughly convinced Chris that people ''do'' read everything he writes, and that his YouTube messages ''invariably'' get to his target audience.

===Persecution Complex===
[[Image:Issue4.jpg|thumb|Saint CWC the Martyr.]]

Chris has a lot of problems, and even the ones he [[lie|'takes responsibility for']] are still out of his hands.

*His [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|school]] was [[Kick the Autistic|mean to him]].
*He didn't deserve that [[Song of Christian|F in English]].
*Or the one in [[CADD Chef|CADD]].

And if that wasn't enough, he thinks every authority figure in the land is conspiring against his [[Love Quest]]:

{{quote|Then in Mid-October, the Quote/Unquote "Dean of Student Services," Mary Lee Walsh, approached me and pulled my sign away from me and told me, "You're NOT ALLOWED TO FIND TRUE LOVE HERE." MY HEART WAS SHATTERED that very moment.|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Enter_the_Wicked_Witch_of_the_Private_Villa_of_Corrupted_Citizens|Wikipedia Page]]}}

It doesn't help that he's engaged in a quagmire of a war against the [[homo]] rumors that those DAMNED TROLLS keep spreading about him, with a second front versus the [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] violating [[Liquid Chris|thieves]].

{{quote|It's out of my control! I don't know where to go! I DUNNO KNOW WHERE TA GO!|Chris, THAT IS MY HOUSE}}

It has never—and likely ''will'' never occur to him that he needs to go ''outside'', get a job, and get off the damned internet.

===Naïveté===
Chris's simple-mindedness and gullibility are legendary. The man is like the Sith: he only deals in absolutes. Either you're with him or you're a [[troll]]. This has been very obvious in his answers to the [[Mailbag]], where he refuses to listen to any talk—even from professionals—about the similarities between [[Asperger Syndrome]] and [[autism]], denies that there are any shortcomings in his [[Sonichu (comic)|work]], and shrugs off any advice about how to improve his health or appearance, labelling anyone who suggests he has any kind of shortcoming a troll.

Chris equates [[honesty]] with divulging every last detail about his life. Nothing is too candid for Chris - getting haircuts, drinking his own [[navy]], [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitting his pants]], or even giving away his phone number and home address! The only thing he hasn't done with wild abandon is give away his social security number and when that happens, it probably won't be a surprise to anybody.

His gullibility is astounding. No matter how many times it's happened before, Chris is easily led around by trolls promising [[china]] or threatening [[Sonichu]]. The earlier trolling schemes, such as [[Blanca]], [[PandaHalo]] and [[Jimmy Hill]], got Chris to jump through hoops and exposed so much information about Chris and his personality that they had to start a [[Cwcki|wiki]] to keep track of it all.

In 2009 and 2010, Chris has slowly begun to "learn" to distrust trolls or to keep more of his [[PSN|information]] secure. However, many of his trolls believe this is akin to putting a shock collar on an animal. Eventually, in order to stop being shocked (not because they actually understand or care) an animal will start doing as it is told.

===Hubris: The Pride Before the Fall===
[[Image:NeitherOfUs.jpg|thumb|It's fair to say that Chris is a narcissist.]]
{{quote|I'd say... I'd say I'm all around. You see, the problem is that I have too many skills that I am good at. You might say that I am a jack of all trades and a master of none.|Chris, [[Mumble 3|right about that last part]]}}
Numerous times, Chris has shown that he believes he has powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal [[slow-in-the-minds|autistics]]. In fact, this attitude has transcended self-confidence and erupted into full-blown hubris: Chris is convinced that his [[Chris and writing|writing]], [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys|musical]] [[Guitar Hero|talents]], and [[Chris and art|art]] are not just competitive with his peers, but clearly superior.

And he doesn't just have the power to create: his is also the power to destroy. This line of thinking is exemplified by Chris's acceptance that [[Ryan Cash]] committed suicide just because he withheld ''Sonichu'' updates, and would worsen when he believed that his [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] actually caused [[Liquid Chris]] to have some sort of horror befall him.

But those are just the most insane moments of cognitive dissonance. What about the time he went into hysterics when he didn't get a recognition for his art?

{{quote|I should have been Highly Recognized for my ARTISTIC TALENTS I showed in my Many Art Classes for the Award Ceremonies before Graduation Day. I felt crestfallen greatly from not getting recognized for any of my Talents. I EXCELLED IN MATH TOO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|Wikipedia page]]}}

Or his reaction to losing the [[Adam Stackhouse|Parappa Contest]]?

{{quote|So that SWORN ON MY AUTISM, JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED TO THE SEVEN PEOPLE OF THOSE FOUR VIDEOS!!!!|Chris, on the [http://web.archive.org/web/20070830114517/http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm Sonichu Site]}}
[[Image:How chris sees himself.jpg|thumb]]
All of the above is consistent with the behavior of small children, who, isolated from the real world by a lack of comprehension and limited mobility, believe themselves to be godlike beings. This belief is gradually destroyed as the child goes to school and encounters outside authority, leading to their acknowledgment of the fact that they are, in fact, ordinary people. Of course, since Chris is not only autistic but also extremely sheltered, he still manages to cling to this belief by focusing on specific aspects of his life and constructing [[CWCville|elaborate fantasy worlds]]. This is also probably why he sees mundane chores as horrific trials of strength and will. In psychological terms, this can be referred to as 'psychological neoteny,' which is basically the retention of juvenile traits well into physical maturity.

Also consistent with his childlike mindset is his apparent belief that he has supernatural powers. In Freudian terms, this is referred to as 'omnipotence of thought'. Basically, Chris cherry-picks elements of his life in order to validate his fantasy of control, which is more systematically displayed in the Sonichu comics. Taking this into consideration, it's likely that Magi-chan is yet another Mary Sue for Chris (which adds more fuel to certain theories), serving as a kind of avatar for his desire for authority. Why he felt it necessary to make another character to fill this role is unclear, considering he's already established [[Chris-chan Sonichu|himself]] as the one true God of [[CWCville]].

Another aspect of Chris' arrogance, and again caused by his childish way of viewing the world, is visible in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9|a phone call]] with [[Asperchu|Alec]]. In the call it is obvious Chris does not follow a mature procedure for developing a stance on issues. Where normally an individual will learn information about the issue and from there decide how they feel about that issue, Chris does it the other way around and decides how he feels about something, then refuses to believe, understand, or even humor any evidence to the contrary. While most people have very strong beliefs in some issues, so much so that they automatically have a prejudice against people believing differently (E.G. Politics, religion, etc), Chris has this perspective on everything. He takes a position on matters, then finds ways to back it up and ignores all evidence for the opposing viewpoint. For example, Chris has decided [[homos]] are bad, so he selectively finds information that backs up his stance on the matter and ignores anything anyone will tell him about why his homophobia is bad and makes him a bad person. He will then go as far as to pretend he can [[Sonichu_10#Curing_Da_Homos|cure homosexuality]] with his own blood. Unless disliking homosexuals means he may [[I'm_Sorry,_Dude|not get laid]].

This is most obvious when he takes two contrary positions about a similar topic. The obvious example of this is Chris's understanding of the way [[parody]] functions. Chris will defend his right to make Sonichu to the hilt by claiming it is a [[Parody#Hypocrisy|parody]], but he then states that Asperchu is a bad thing because it is a parody. As you can see, Chris has decided that he has every right to make Sonichu so he backs this up with statements about his right to parody existing trademarked characters, but conversely he has decided Asperchu is bad, so he supports this position by stating it is a parody of his legitimate work.

===Materialism===

{{quote|I want Julie! Yeah, love is my first priority, but then- but then I want my stuff back!|Chris, caring more about his precious PSN Account and Sonichu website, more than his [[troll|sweetheart]].}}

It is clear that Chris is a materialist (a common symptom of Narcissism), buying large amounts of crap that make him feel good about himself, and by some twisted form of reality make him think that his unhealthy amount of children toys might attract a [[sweetheart]], when in reality any human being would clearly see that this man is [[Naïve|delusional]].

===Tender Misanthropy===

A "tender misanthrope" is, by definition, "someone who despises humanity in general, but is ever ready to make an exception for the ''real'' people". In other words, an egotist who pretends to be benevolent. While it's obvious that Chris is an egotist, he truly believes that he's benevolent. He is the perfect example of a tender misanthrope, screaming death threats at what he knows of humanity (seeing as the only social contact he gets is from the Internet) while also believing that he is a kind, loving person who can [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|give advice]] and act as a role model for children.

Another part of the definition states that "a tender misanthrope feels certain of being able to love real people if only they could be found - or, failing that, to transform existing false people into idealized ''real'' people through social and political programs of the tender misanthrope's own making". The way that Chris treats [[homos]], seeing as he hates them all ([[Mailbag_53#Well,_that_makes_everything_better!|no matter what he says]]) and wants to turn them straight by placing them into co-ed prisons, reprogramming them into straights via concentration camps, or by creating a vaccine that "cures" homosexuality, certainly fits this description. The fact that he also generalizes trolls as homos also supports this. If that does not convince you that Chris feels he can make people into what he can emotionally attach himself to, there are also other [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|obvious examples]] in his unique delivery of his intentions.

===Disregard of rules of conduct online===

{{quote|DO NOT DELETE, NOR CENSOR, MY BOMBASTIC PROTEST!!!!!!|Chris, in [[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#4 September|Encyclopedia Dramatica]]}}

Chris has little regard for the rules of online communities; when he joins up on websites, he tends to do things his way. He assumes that his own niche in these websites is under his absolute control: for example, he assumed that [[Wikipedia]] would allow him to post anything on his personal user page, or that [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] would remove material critical to him if he just asked not-so-nicely. Sites like [[deviantART]] and [[YouTube]] allow community participation; Chris simply disallowed comments, or later on, just ignored every comment he received. Chris also assumes that when other people host websites for him (in case of [[CWCipedia]]), he's given the final say on all matters.

==War against the ego==
One of the main forces opposing Chris's ego are the [[white knights]]. These [[slow-in-the-minds|misguided souls]] have attempted to get Chris to understand that what he's doing is ridiculous and that he needs to grow up. Instead, he brushed them all aside, assuring himself that he was [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]], and could do no wrong. One of the more popular white knights, [[Vivian Gee]], became a troll when she couldn't get through to Chris.

When asked to get real, psychiatric help, Chris has said that his church counselor, [[Rocky Shoemaker]], is enough for him, and that she could do so much more than someone with ''an actual degree in that field.'' He seems to believe that because her title includes the word "counselor," she is every bit as qualified as a real doctor (the fact that most pastoral counselors see people for free probably helps as well, since Chris would never spend part of his precious [[monthly tugboat]] on something useful when there are [[video games]] to buy).

==Examples of Chris's Ego in the Real World and in the Comic==
[[Image:SchuComic8P68.jpg|thumb|250px|[[Jiggliami]] sums it up nicely]]
{{Main|Examples of Chris's Ego}}
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==References==
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Talk:Attention All Sonichu Fans (NOT HATERS)

2010-04-09T04:24:18Z

Borednewb: Everyone who views his comic is a fan.

Old and so probably noticed by everyone, but the fact that he differentiates people as "Sonichu fans who hate me" and "Sonichu fans who do not hate me" implies that he thinks EVERYONE who reads/views his comic is a fan. Self deception is a wonderful thing.
-- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 04:24, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Ronichu

2010-04-08T03:12:23Z

Borednewb:

Hi! I suggest that we move that list about Chris's "Chris_chan" page from the [[ED]] page to the [[Chris-Chan (CWCipedia)]] page, where it would be of more help. What do you think? --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 10:04, 18 December 2009 (CET)

==Mailbag potentials==

===Wherein a guess is made===

Hi Chris,

Sandy from Sydney, Australia here- firstly, my friends and I were talking recently and I love the fact that you put a character into Sonichu with the same name as me! That really made my day! <3

Secondly, I noticed in Asperchu Alec wrote that you got fired from Wendy's for sleeping on the job, but I know the real reason you were fired was because you had an understandable poop accident at work. I think it's cruel they fired you for that, don't they understand autism at all?

Love,

Sandy.

===Wherein a creepy co-incidence is noted===

Hi Chris,

Sandy again! I'm surprised you didn't mention you were so famous! I saw the movie that Lord of the Rings director made about you over the weekend. As you know, it is called 'The Lovely Bones' (named after your beautiful wife, of course!) and I found it to be amazing! Apparently it is based on your older, wiser self and all the young, pretty girls you have sex with. You lucky devil!

In the movie you live to be what looks to be about as old as your father, with heaps of sexual conquests behind you and living a free life. I recommend you check it out if you haven't already, it's based on you! Peter Jackson said so himself! You should easily be able so see which person is meant to be you, he even has your glasses and autism.

Write me a nice reply, okay? And don't forget to see the movie!

Love,

Sandy.
* That's...frightening because it's almost true. No-one actually offered Loli to Chris though, so we'll have to see what would happen there.--[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

===Your Call===

You noted that Bob and Snorlax sounded delighted to talk to you--Snorlax even thought that your fictional sister was "cute". I don't blame them for wanting to talk to someone that isn't anyone else in that house. Still, why did Snorlax come to the phone when you asked for Chris? I consider this more proof that they're being paranoid. About what, however, I don't know--Snorlax fears Chris Hansen is a grand threat to Chris. Still, thanks for proving that Bob is alive.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:43, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

* I don't know why Snorlax came to the phone - I explicitly asked for Chris. If I could guess, I would say one part paranoia and one part 'Chris is playing vidya and shouldn't be disturbed'. I actually enjoyed talking to both Bob and Snorlax and plan on calling them tomorrow before work, but recording it this time.

*Incidently, I am also glad Bob is alive. He sounded happy. I don't know why they both seemed to immediately trust me; I have been told I have an okay phone voice, despite my nervousness, and my accent and ability to make shit up on the fly due to a youth spent playing D&D probably helped too.[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:27, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

*To me it read like Bob didn't want to get blamed for passing a troll on to Chris, so he passed it on to Snorlax so she could make the decision. Chris sounded like an absolute dick though. - [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 03:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

User:Borednewb

2010-04-07T09:05:24Z

Borednewb: SHITCOCK fucked up

Aussie here. Feel free to ignore this page, I'm just trying to understand the ballsed up mindset that is Chris, at least a little. If this is inappropriate, feel free to delete it. I'm just putting some theories down to see what people think.

== Unified theory of Chris ==

Chris is an autistic sociopath with a thin grasp of the differentiation between fantasy and reality.

Because of the autism Chris is unable to understand in depth social cues and finds it far easier to relate to (note, not empathise) more one dimensional figures than real life offering, and so turns to characters from childrens shows and simple movies (and when watching shows with more depths, he only picks up on the simplest of understandings). From this he picks up what he understands as the 'rules' of the game, such as the [[third date|third date rule]], his poor understanding of the [[friend zone]], and things such as '[[heart level]]'. The way social interaction (in fact, everything) in the real world works is too complex for Chris so he abstracts it down to what he believes the rules are, rules he has picked up from ficticious media. And so Chris believes things like 'the hero always ends up with the girl', are not literary conceits but the way the real world works.

But the idea of his world being based on the conceits of writing a simplistic story may not be entirely correct. He may not be basing reality on fantasy, he may be getting the two confused. Chris seems to believe he is the hero/narrator of his own story, and as such cannot really differentiate between statement and fact. Chris best understands simplistic stories, and it is mentioned elsewhere [[Chris and writing|his writing style]] is incredibly reliant upon exposition, where the narrator's job is to stand in for actions. "Meanwhile, the dastardly villains have finished building their superweapon", that sort of thing. Because it is stated by the narrator, it is a fact that the people who are making a superweapon are dastardly and villains. And so, with Chris confusing his world with a story with him as the narrator, he seems to think that by making statements, they become true. By describing himself as loyal, true and honest he IS loyal, true and honest. For more information on this, go down to the part about 'Chris' Categorial imperative'.

Bob, as a 'southern gentleman' probably imparted onto Chris nuggets of wisdom such as his dislike of [[homos|homosexuals]] and general distrust of [[Chris and race|black people]], and within Chris' mind these took on the properties of fact. This is probably why Chris finds it so distasteful to make statements like [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|"I am gay"]], seeming revulsed by them. In his mind by making those statements, he is BECOMING gay, and why he put such pathetic imagery in the videos to deny any homosexuality.

Chris is a Sociopath. He is unable to empathise with others, and in fact views them as characters in ''his'' story. Working on the idea that this is 'his' story, Chris doesn't view the 'characters' as people, he views them as a means to an end. That end is twofold, firstly in becoming a man (which in his mind will happen primarily when he finds himself a 'sweetheart' and has sex) and secondly in having adolescent fun with his games.

So as a Sociopath Chris views all interactions under a simple means/end equation. "What means will get me the desired end" is the sentence that dictates all of Chris' interactions with others. He wants to avoid [[Alec]]'s calls (or more exactly, thinking about the issues Alec raises), so he'll just ignore what's being said, putting the minimum amount of effort into the conversation to get what he wants (Alec to agree with him and/or go away). He wants a Girlfriend so he'll do whatever he believes is necessary to make it happen.

As proof, view the [[11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You|videos to]] [[CWC is Sad|Kacey]] when he thinks she's leaving him. These are obvious attempts at sympathy, considering he'd known her for all of a couple of weeks at this stage. He is doing this because in his mind if he seems pitiful, she will be sorry for him (probably the only way he avoided getting beaten up in school). Then in the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|next video]] he's on top of the world. His ingenuine emotions shows they were an attempt to manipulate Kasey, suggesting further he has no ability to empathise with her or her desires.

Although in the interests of fairness I should mention the possibility that these videos are genuine emotions. How might this be? Surely if Chris is so sociopathic he wouldn't be so upset at losing someone he knew for a matter of weeks. Sure he can be, he's upset because he failed. Keep in mind, to him the only reason Liquid Chris got Kacey was by pretending to be him, so in Chris's mind she was in love with Chris, not Liquid. For her to decide to go with the 'imposter' is like telling Chris that he failed, something he never copes well with.

If Chris is so manipulative socially, the obvious question is why is he not more successful socially then? The simple answer is because he is a socially inept social manipulator. Chris cannot project or understand body language, his three tones of voice are "I am angry", "I am normal" and "I am speaking to a cat/girlfriend", and even when people flat out tell him how they feel, he does not understand. He only understands the most basic aspects of social interaction, and so his attempts to influence the social realm fail in ways that can only be greeted with equal amounts of mirth and amazement.

The real nail in the coffin that backs up all of these claims comes in the most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]]. In this he shows all of the above aspects.

1. Autistic: Chris proves his inability to understand social cues in the statement:
{{quote|I mean, you aren't even ready for a boyfriend! You told me so yourself, multiple times!}}
This shows he is unable to understand simple social conventions, such as "When a girl tells you she is not interested in a boyfriend, do not keep following that one thought", but the fact he had to be told multiple times suggests that he kept on asking.

2. Sociopathic: In all the statements he shows a complete inability to understand any of her thoughts on the matter, all that matters in his mind is that HE gets the girl. He has no thoughts for how she understands matters, only for the fact that he has decided that she will be his girlfriend, yet she is not. There is only one perspective that matters on the issue, and that is his own.

3. Manipulator: The first thing he does when things are not going his way, he attempts to manipulate the situation in his own socially inept way. He plays the pity card, attempting to sway her decision not to be with him because he has autism and is a virgin. This is linked with Chris' inability to empathise with others. He can't understand the pain others feel, only his own, which to his twisted perspective means that his own pain is most important.

4. Confuses reality with story: Chris obviously believes he is the main character. Just look at this statement:
{{quote|you don't need that new boyfriend, because... I need you.}}
His proof to her that SHE does not need her current (questionable) boyfriend is that HE needs her. That is like saying "You don't need that sandwich because I am hungry", there is no cause and effect there as understood by the real world, only in Christian's warped understanding of reality. In Chris' mind he is the main character and all considerations other than his are secondary at best, this isn't just an egocentric view this is the FACT of the world.

tl;dr version: Chris is a sociopath who doesn't give a fuck about anyone and will say/do whatever he thinks will get the result he wants. He's a socially inept wanna-be-manipulative sociopath autistic.

=== To Write ===

Chris has no creativity. I don't just mean "What he makes is uncreative", I mean "He physically is unable to comprehend creativity". Look at one of his graduation notes as listed below. In it he equates time and effort with being creative, he doesn't understand the importance of quality. More to come.
[[File:0566-GraduationNote1.jpg||thumbnail|left]]

== Past writing ==

This is kept up here while I'm working through what I can see.

===Chris' limited understanding===

Reading [[Random-access humor|this]] and watching the [[CWCFlyingElephants|Monty Python video]] may explain a bit about Chris' mindset. Chris adores Monty Python, that much is obvious (and tragic). He loves it in the same way a child would ("That man has a silly walk!", "He's slapping the guy with fish!" would be the depth of his understanding) and understands that it is 'funny', and it is similar with his love of family guy. He loves the shows and understands that they are funny and so his own attempts at humour (as evident in his list of 'jokes' in [[Random-access humor]]) are based entirely around what he understands of the series.

He recognises that they are funny, he recognises that a lot of the humour in both shows are based on the non-sequitor nature of the jokes, and so in his mind he equates 'randomness' with 'funny'. In a normal person, they recognise the vast amount of work that goes into making something funny, it requires timing, relevance to the audience, risqué nature, and a host of other variables, all coming together in varied amounts (some being left out completely in particular types of humour) to create an entire form of communication. Chris only sees limited aspects and automatically equates them. To him risqué = joke, and random = joke.

Look at his [[Christian's sex joke|'joke']] as an example. It lacks any form of pacing, no misleading statements about where the joke is going, nothing confronting, in fact the closest it gets to a joke is using milk and eggs as a metaphor for sperm and the female egg, an attempt at a double entendre that fails enormously. He then goes on to butcher whatever humour may (but doesn't) exist by showing a complete lack of timing and carrying the joke on past any humourous stage.

He believes that by including a risque attempt at a double entendre in what is otherwise a children's fable level of writing (all it's missing is a wicked witch trying to stop the husband getting home and the phrase "Happily ever after" at the end, and it would be a poor fable) it becomes a joke. Similarly, he knows the Junkions are meant to be comic relief in the original Transformers movie, and so he thinks that by making random statements he is funny. He doesn't understand context, or 'get' any second level to things.

Let's take this and apply it to his pride and joy, Sonichu. Chris likes Sonic and Pokemon, and Chris realises they are for children. By putting them together he thinks that makes his comic automatically for children. He doesn't comprehend the amazing requirements on a story to make it an effective children's story, he simply assumes "Sonic is for children, therefore anything with Sonic in it is for children". He can throw in hardcore gore, sex scenes, huge romance plots that really are inappropriate for children (kids don't read romance novels for a reason, they're not interested in a lot of that), and in his mind it is still a comic appropriate for children.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris doesn't understand context, and believes correlation = causation. Sonic is in a show for children, therefore anything Sonic is in is for children, he doesn't understand that it was the stories in the children's show that made it appropriate for children, not by virtue of it being about a blue hedgehog.

=== Chris' Categorical Imperative ===

I wrote a bit about this on the page [[Chris and his Ego]], but I just want to expand. There I said that Chris had a child like method of debating, he decides on the facts and then twist the evidence to support it (look at his use of parody to talk down about Asperchu, while at the same time legitimising Sonichu by claiming it to be a parody). But I think there may be something more to it than this. In philosophy there is the term in discussing morality called 'Moral Absolutism', that is where there is an absolute truth about what is moral and what is not. I will call Chris' view on the world 'Chris Absolutism'. That is, there is an absolute truth about the world, and when people disagree with him (his view being factual in his eyes) it is because they do not understand it.

Look at [[Megan]] and his end result with that. Chris believes that Megan is his sweetheart and therefore in his mind, according to reality she is. When the fiasco happened, she is upset with the picture Chris posted, and everyone jokes that he thinks she's upset because she doesn't understand the sexual act in question, but that is a sign of something far scarier.

Chris thinks he is a gentleman, therefore everything he does is the act of a gentleman, and if she's upset with him acting inappropriately well obviously he didn't act inappropriately because gentlemen do not do that, so instead she just didn't understand his action. So he explains it, thinking "My action is the action of a gentleman, if she understands it as I do, she will have to agree".

Chris gets confused when people disagree with him not because he's slow (well, he is, but that's not the only reason) but because he knows his belief is fact and so he just needs to work out what evidence he has to back it up, often evidence that doesn't exist. He does not understand the differentiation between perception and truth. It is why he is unable to learn, time after time, that all his sweethearts are trolls, because in his heart he loves (I think his conception of love needs analysis, too) them and so that means in reality they are his true love. Similarly, Chris honestly believes he is young, thin, handsome, honest and a gentleman because he states these to be facts. Any proof to the contrary does not fit with his self image and so it is ignored, and anyone who says he is not any of these things is obviously incorrect in his mind.

A search for the term "I was wrong" on this -pedia reveals that it is only used 10 times, and only 3 of those are Chris. Every one of those 3 times are him either apologising because he thinks it will get him something or... actually that's it. It's him talking to Kacey's father thinking apologising will get him out of trouble, apologising for the coke adds in an incredibly passive aggressive way thinking it'll get him out of trouble, and apologising to Kacey thinking it'll get her back. Chris is never wrong unless 'admitting' it gets him something.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris does not understand the difference between his perspective and absolute truth. He has no conception of being wrong not because he is arrogant, but because he honestly doesn't differentiate between his perception and reality. And so anyone who disagrees with him is trolling or ignorant. Look at the white knights trying to save him from trolling sweet hearts (every one of them being ignored in favour of his perspective, that his sweethearts are 'true and loyal' to him). Or the Megan saga, where when Megan was angry with him he assumed explaining himself would make her understand that he was right.

=== Chris and 'love' ===

Like many things, Chris seems to understand love in terms best compared to a computer game (see his [[Mary_Lee_Walsh#Emails_with_Mary|respect meter]]), that is to say it is a goal driven enterprise, not a mutual attraction. Falling in love and having sex are stepping stones in maturity and leaving childhood to enter into mature adulthood, and so to Chris it is the 'goal' he attains. In Pokemon and other games there is ALWAYS a pre-scripted way through the puzzles to the solution, so Chris assumes there is here. Rather than allowing it naturally to happen (assuming it would naturally happen in Chris' case) he seems determined to go through the steps as quickly as possible. Even in calling it a 'Girlfriend quest' or 'Love quest' it makes it sound like some bullshit dating simulator "Collect twenty panties and I'll sleep with you" game. In his desire for 'dating classes' he doesn't actually want to learn how to talk to women effectively, he wants a walkthrough he can finish the game with.

But that is not to say he is attempting to rush it, he merely assumes it can be done that quickly. From hordes of fables and romantic tales Chris 'learns' how love works (he assumes it is a magical 'eyes meet across the room and happily ever after affair), and from comic stereotypes and bad teen comedies he learns how dating works (the good guy meets with the girl, they have chemistry, fuck by the third date). Considering he seems to blur the lines between [[Chris_and_reality|fantasy and reality]] in most things, it is no surprise he seems to view these as documentaries rather than stories and believes that relationships should move this quickly and always work out.

Put this together and there's one obvious conclusion. Chris does not love any of his 'girlfriends' (none of which are really friends, most of which aren't really girls), instead he loves the idea of a girlfriend. Chris has NEVER spoken of meeting someone and not really having a 'spark' with them, a situation most people experience fairly regularly, he just assumes if they are interested in him and meet his physical requirements, than they must be 'the one'. He loves none of them, instead he loves the idea of having a girlfriend, the [[CWC's_Message_for_Ivy|loveydoveyness]] is a combination of the belief this is how people in relationships act, a desire to keep his girlfriend by telling her he loves her, and an expression of the feeling of accomplishment he has.

This is why Chris is able to move on so quickly when the relationship invariably falls apart. Follow the Chris Logic:

Man and woman fall in love -> Happy Ending.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will have a happy ending and be an adult.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will be in love with her.

If a girl is with me -> She is my true love.

If a girl leaves me -> She is not my true love.

In an ideal relationship, you're with your partner because you both love each other. In a Chris relationship whoever you're with, you love. When they leave him he's sad because they're not with him, not because his heart is broken.

And now, onto his fear of breaking up couples in relationships in his comics. Because he views the relationship as the end goal (the 'winning point', so to speak), having a relationship break up in his comic would be like depowering the characters (I.E. Utterly alien to him) or willingly trying to lose a game.

Additional: A theory on Chris and sex. Chris never reached any degree of maturity, but he still sexually matured enough to enjoy the act of sex (although in Chris' case it is a solo act, perhaps with props). But since he is not emotionally mature enough to truly have a sexuality, he falls back on accepted knowledge. Chris dislikes homosexuals and likes women because he has accepted from birth that this is what men like. A couple of times he's mentioned that in the past he's been called homosexual before his encounter with the trolls (I recall reading this, not sure where. Any help would be appreciated), so his homophobia is probably a backlash from that ("I'm being called homosexual as an insult. I don't like being insulted, so being called a homosexual is bad. So homosexuality is bad, so I hate homosexuals"). So without a genuine sexuality he feels he must force himself to be straight to fit in, hence his use of the Sailor Moon poster as a reminder to 'keep (him) straight'. This also explains why he uses things such as vibrators, since Chris never developed a true sexuality, he enjoys anything that causes sexual stimulation. In the same way a rat with a pleasure button does, Chris will keep pressing whatever buttons help him enjoy himself. He used vibrators until people said "That is homosexual", and so he 'publically' stops. It's possible (or even likely) he privately continues, because his hatred of being called homosexual may not be the fear of being called homosexual, it may be lingering fear of the social insult of being called gay in school.

User:Borednewb

2010-04-07T09:00:40Z

Borednewb: Added some clarifying statements and a 'to write' section.

Aussie here. Feel free to ignore this page, I'm just trying to understand the ballsed up mindset that is Chris, at least a little. If this is inappropriate, feel free to delete it. I'm just putting some theories down to see what people think.

== Unified theory of Chris ==

Chris is an autistic sociopath with a thin grasp of the differentiation between fantasy and reality.

Because of the autism Chris is unable to understand in depth social cues and finds it far easier to relate to (note, not empathise) more one dimensional figures than real life offering, and so turns to characters from childrens shows and simple movies (and when watching shows with more depths, he only picks up on the simplest of understandings). From this he picks up what he understands as the 'rules' of the game, such as the [[third date|third date rule]], his poor understanding of the [[friend zone]], and things such as '[[heart level]]'. The way social interaction (in fact, everything) in the real world works is too complex for Chris so he abstracts it down to what he believes the rules are, rules he has picked up from ficticious media. And so Chris believes things like 'the hero always ends up with the girl', are not literary conceits but the way the real world works.

But the idea of his world being based on the conceits of writing a simplistic story may not be entirely correct. He may not be basing reality on fantasy, he may be getting the two confused. Chris seems to believe he is the hero/narrator of his own story, and as such cannot really differentiate between statement and fact. Chris best understands simplistic stories, and it is mentioned elsewhere [[Chris and writing|his writing style]] is incredibly reliant upon exposition, where the narrator's job is to stand in for actions. "Meanwhile, the dastardly villains have finished building their superweapon", that sort of thing. Because it is stated by the narrator, it is a fact that the people who are making a superweapon are dastardly and villains. And so, with Chris confusing his world with a story with him as the narrator, he seems to think that by making statements, they become true. By describing himself as loyal, true and honest he IS loyal, true and honest. For more information on this, go down to the part about 'Chris' Categorial imperative'.

Bob, as a 'southern gentleman' probably imparted onto Chris nuggets of wisdom such as his dislike of [[homos|homosexuals]] and general distrust of [[Chris and race|black people]], and within Chris' mind these took on the properties of fact. This is probably why Chris finds it so distasteful to make statements like [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|"I am gay"]], seeming revulsed by them. In his mind by making those statements, he is BECOMING gay, and why he put such pathetic imagery in the videos to deny any homosexuality.

Chris is a Sociopath. He is unable to empathise with others, and in fact views them as characters in ''his'' story. Working on the idea that this is 'his' story, Chris doesn't view the 'characters' as people, he views them as a means to an end. That end is twofold, firstly in becoming a man (which in his mind will happen primarily when he finds himself a 'sweetheart' and has sex) and secondly in having adolescent fun with his games.

So as a Sociopath Chris views all interactions under a simple means/end equation. "What means will get me the desired end" is the sentence that dictates all of Chris' interactions with others. He wants to avoid [[Alec]]'s calls (or more exactly, thinking about the issues Alec raises), so he'll just ignore what's being said, putting the minimum amount of effort into the conversation to get what he wants (Alec to agree with him and/or go away). He wants a Girlfriend so he'll do whatever he believes is necessary to make it happen.

As proof, view the [[11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You|videos to]] [[CWC is Sad|Kacey]] when he thinks she's leaving him. These are obvious attempts at sympathy, considering he'd known her for all of a couple of weeks at this stage. He is doing this because in his mind if he seems pitiful, she will be sorry for him (probably the only way he avoided getting beaten up in school). Then in the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|next video]] he's on top of the world. His ingenuine emotions shows they were an attempt to manipulate Kasey, suggesting further he has no ability to empathise with her or her desires.

Although in the interests of fairness I should mention the possibility that these videos are genuine emotions. How might this be? Surely if Chris is so sociopathic he wouldn't be so upset at losing someone he knew for a matter of weeks. Sure he can be, he's upset because he failed. Keep in mind, to him the only reason Liquid Chris got Kacey was by pretending to be him, so in Chris's mind she was in love with Chris, not Liquid. For her to decide to go with the 'imposter' is like telling Chris that he failed, something he never copes well with.

If Chris is so manipulative socially, the obvious question is why is he not more successful socially then? The simple answer is because he is a socially inept social manipulator. Chris cannot project or understand body language, his three tones of voice are "I am angry", "I am normal" and "I am speaking to a cat/girlfriend", and even when people flat out tell him how they feel, he does not understand. He only understands the most basic aspects of social interaction, and so his attempts to influence the social realm fail in ways that can only be greeted with equal amounts of mirth and amazement.

The real nail in the coffin that backs up all of these claims comes in the most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]]. In this he shows all of the above aspects.

1. Autistic: Chris proves his inability to understand social cues in the statement:
{{quote|I mean, you aren't even ready for a boyfriend! You told me so yourself, multiple times!}}
This shows he is unable to understand simple social conventions, such as "When a girl tells you she is not interested in a boyfriend, do not keep following that one thought", but the fact he had to be told multiple times suggests that he kept on asking.

2. Sociopathic: In all the statements he shows a complete inability to understand any of her thoughts on the matter, all that matters in his mind is that HE gets the girl. He has no thoughts for how she understands matters, only for the fact that he has decided that she will be his girlfriend, yet she is not. There is only one perspective that matters on the issue, and that is his own.

3. Manipulator: The first thing he does when things are not going his way, he attempts to manipulate the situation in his own socially inept way. He plays the pity card, attempting to sway her decision not to be with him because he has autism and is a virgin. This is linked with Chris' inability to empathise with others. He can't understand the pain others feel, only his own, which to his twisted perspective means that his own pain is most important.

4. Confuses reality with story: Chris obviously believes he is the main character. Just look at this statement:
{{quote|you don't need that new boyfriend, because... I need you.}}
His proof to her that SHE does not need her current (questionable) boyfriend is that HE needs her. That is like saying "You don't need that sandwich because I am hungry", there is no cause and effect there as understood by the real world, only in Christian's warped understanding of reality. In Chris' mind he is the main character and all considerations other than his are secondary at best, this isn't just an egocentric view this is the FACT of the world.

tl;dr version: Chris is a sociopath who doesn't give a fuck about anyone and will say/do whatever he thinks will get the result he wants. He's a socially inept wanna-be-manipulative sociopath autistic.

=== To Write ===

Chris has no creativity. I don't just mean "What he makes is uncreative", I mean "He physically is unable to comprehend creativity". Look at one of his [[File:0566-GraduationNote1.jpg||graduation notes]]. In it he equates time and effort with being creative, he doesn't understand the importance of quality. More to come.

== Past writing ==

This is kept up here while I'm working through what I can see.

===Chris' limited understanding===

Reading [[Random-access humor|this]] and watching the [[CWCFlyingElephants|Monty Python video]] may explain a bit about Chris' mindset. Chris adores Monty Python, that much is obvious (and tragic). He loves it in the same way a child would ("That man has a silly walk!", "He's slapping the guy with fish!" would be the depth of his understanding) and understands that it is 'funny', and it is similar with his love of family guy. He loves the shows and understands that they are funny and so his own attempts at humour (as evident in his list of 'jokes' in [[Random-access humor]]) are based entirely around what he understands of the series.

He recognises that they are funny, he recognises that a lot of the humour in both shows are based on the non-sequitor nature of the jokes, and so in his mind he equates 'randomness' with 'funny'. In a normal person, they recognise the vast amount of work that goes into making something funny, it requires timing, relevance to the audience, risqué nature, and a host of other variables, all coming together in varied amounts (some being left out completely in particular types of humour) to create an entire form of communication. Chris only sees limited aspects and automatically equates them. To him risqué = joke, and random = joke.

Look at his [[Christian's sex joke|'joke']] as an example. It lacks any form of pacing, no misleading statements about where the joke is going, nothing confronting, in fact the closest it gets to a joke is using milk and eggs as a metaphor for sperm and the female egg, an attempt at a double entendre that fails enormously. He then goes on to butcher whatever humour may (but doesn't) exist by showing a complete lack of timing and carrying the joke on past any humourous stage.

He believes that by including a risque attempt at a double entendre in what is otherwise a children's fable level of writing (all it's missing is a wicked witch trying to stop the husband getting home and the phrase "Happily ever after" at the end, and it would be a poor fable) it becomes a joke. Similarly, he knows the Junkions are meant to be comic relief in the original Transformers movie, and so he thinks that by making random statements he is funny. He doesn't understand context, or 'get' any second level to things.

Let's take this and apply it to his pride and joy, Sonichu. Chris likes Sonic and Pokemon, and Chris realises they are for children. By putting them together he thinks that makes his comic automatically for children. He doesn't comprehend the amazing requirements on a story to make it an effective children's story, he simply assumes "Sonic is for children, therefore anything with Sonic in it is for children". He can throw in hardcore gore, sex scenes, huge romance plots that really are inappropriate for children (kids don't read romance novels for a reason, they're not interested in a lot of that), and in his mind it is still a comic appropriate for children.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris doesn't understand context, and believes correlation = causation. Sonic is in a show for children, therefore anything Sonic is in is for children, he doesn't understand that it was the stories in the children's show that made it appropriate for children, not by virtue of it being about a blue hedgehog.

=== Chris' Categorical Imperative ===

I wrote a bit about this on the page [[Chris and his Ego]], but I just want to expand. There I said that Chris had a child like method of debating, he decides on the facts and then twist the evidence to support it (look at his use of parody to talk down about Asperchu, while at the same time legitimising Sonichu by claiming it to be a parody). But I think there may be something more to it than this. In philosophy there is the term in discussing morality called 'Moral Absolutism', that is where there is an absolute truth about what is moral and what is not. I will call Chris' view on the world 'Chris Absolutism'. That is, there is an absolute truth about the world, and when people disagree with him (his view being factual in his eyes) it is because they do not understand it.

Look at [[Megan]] and his end result with that. Chris believes that Megan is his sweetheart and therefore in his mind, according to reality she is. When the fiasco happened, she is upset with the picture Chris posted, and everyone jokes that he thinks she's upset because she doesn't understand the sexual act in question, but that is a sign of something far scarier.

Chris thinks he is a gentleman, therefore everything he does is the act of a gentleman, and if she's upset with him acting inappropriately well obviously he didn't act inappropriately because gentlemen do not do that, so instead she just didn't understand his action. So he explains it, thinking "My action is the action of a gentleman, if she understands it as I do, she will have to agree".

Chris gets confused when people disagree with him not because he's slow (well, he is, but that's not the only reason) but because he knows his belief is fact and so he just needs to work out what evidence he has to back it up, often evidence that doesn't exist. He does not understand the differentiation between perception and truth. It is why he is unable to learn, time after time, that all his sweethearts are trolls, because in his heart he loves (I think his conception of love needs analysis, too) them and so that means in reality they are his true love. Similarly, Chris honestly believes he is young, thin, handsome, honest and a gentleman because he states these to be facts. Any proof to the contrary does not fit with his self image and so it is ignored, and anyone who says he is not any of these things is obviously incorrect in his mind.

A search for the term "I was wrong" on this -pedia reveals that it is only used 10 times, and only 3 of those are Chris. Every one of those 3 times are him either apologising because he thinks it will get him something or... actually that's it. It's him talking to Kacey's father thinking apologising will get him out of trouble, apologising for the coke adds in an incredibly passive aggressive way thinking it'll get him out of trouble, and apologising to Kacey thinking it'll get her back. Chris is never wrong unless 'admitting' it gets him something.

''tl;dr version:'' Chris does not understand the difference between his perspective and absolute truth. He has no conception of being wrong not because he is arrogant, but because he honestly doesn't differentiate between his perception and reality. And so anyone who disagrees with him is trolling or ignorant. Look at the white knights trying to save him from trolling sweet hearts (every one of them being ignored in favour of his perspective, that his sweethearts are 'true and loyal' to him). Or the Megan saga, where when Megan was angry with him he assumed explaining himself would make her understand that he was right.

=== Chris and 'love' ===

Like many things, Chris seems to understand love in terms best compared to a computer game (see his [[Mary_Lee_Walsh#Emails_with_Mary|respect meter]]), that is to say it is a goal driven enterprise, not a mutual attraction. Falling in love and having sex are stepping stones in maturity and leaving childhood to enter into mature adulthood, and so to Chris it is the 'goal' he attains. In Pokemon and other games there is ALWAYS a pre-scripted way through the puzzles to the solution, so Chris assumes there is here. Rather than allowing it naturally to happen (assuming it would naturally happen in Chris' case) he seems determined to go through the steps as quickly as possible. Even in calling it a 'Girlfriend quest' or 'Love quest' it makes it sound like some bullshit dating simulator "Collect twenty panties and I'll sleep with you" game. In his desire for 'dating classes' he doesn't actually want to learn how to talk to women effectively, he wants a walkthrough he can finish the game with.

But that is not to say he is attempting to rush it, he merely assumes it can be done that quickly. From hordes of fables and romantic tales Chris 'learns' how love works (he assumes it is a magical 'eyes meet across the room and happily ever after affair), and from comic stereotypes and bad teen comedies he learns how dating works (the good guy meets with the girl, they have chemistry, fuck by the third date). Considering he seems to blur the lines between [[Chris_and_reality|fantasy and reality]] in most things, it is no surprise he seems to view these as documentaries rather than stories and believes that relationships should move this quickly and always work out.

Put this together and there's one obvious conclusion. Chris does not love any of his 'girlfriends' (none of which are really friends, most of which aren't really girls), instead he loves the idea of a girlfriend. Chris has NEVER spoken of meeting someone and not really having a 'spark' with them, a situation most people experience fairly regularly, he just assumes if they are interested in him and meet his physical requirements, than they must be 'the one'. He loves none of them, instead he loves the idea of having a girlfriend, the [[CWC's_Message_for_Ivy|loveydoveyness]] is a combination of the belief this is how people in relationships act, a desire to keep his girlfriend by telling her he loves her, and an expression of the feeling of accomplishment he has.

This is why Chris is able to move on so quickly when the relationship invariably falls apart. Follow the Chris Logic:

Man and woman fall in love -> Happy Ending.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will have a happy ending and be an adult.

If I settle down with a woman -> I will be in love with her.

If a girl is with me -> She is my true love.

If a girl leaves me -> She is not my true love.

In an ideal relationship, you're with your partner because you both love each other. In a Chris relationship whoever you're with, you love. When they leave him he's sad because they're not with him, not because his heart is broken.

And now, onto his fear of breaking up couples in relationships in his comics. Because he views the relationship as the end goal (the 'winning point', so to speak), having a relationship break up in his comic would be like depowering the characters (I.E. Utterly alien to him) or willingly trying to lose a game.

Additional: A theory on Chris and sex. Chris never reached any degree of maturity, but he still sexually matured enough to enjoy the act of sex (although in Chris' case it is a solo act, perhaps with props). But since he is not emotionally mature enough to truly have a sexuality, he falls back on accepted knowledge. Chris dislikes homosexuals and likes women because he has accepted from birth that this is what men like. A couple of times he's mentioned that in the past he's been called homosexual before his encounter with the trolls (I recall reading this, not sure where. Any help would be appreciated), so his homophobia is probably a backlash from that ("I'm being called homosexual as an insult. I don't like being insulted, so being called a homosexual is bad. So homosexuality is bad, so I hate homosexuals"). So without a genuine sexuality he feels he must force himself to be straight to fit in, hence his use of the Sailor Moon poster as a reminder to 'keep (him) straight'. This also explains why he uses things such as vibrators, since Chris never developed a true sexuality, he enjoys anything that causes sexual stimulation. In the same way a rat with a pleasure button does, Chris will keep pressing whatever buttons help him enjoy himself. He used vibrators until people said "That is homosexual", and so he 'publically' stops. It's possible (or even likely) he privately continues, because his hatred of being called homosexual may not be the fear of being called homosexual, it may be lingering fear of the social insult of being called gay in school.

CWCki:Community Portal

2010-04-03T03:15:14Z

Borednewb:

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The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

Please consult the archives to make sure your concern hasn't already been posted before:

[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 4]]

== April is Autism Awareness Month ==

Is there any chance our friendly CWCki admins could make mention of this?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 07:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

== So Chris has discovered the CWCki (finally) ==

As you can guess, he'll have to pry those pages from my COLD, DEAD HANDS before I consider deleting them. It's not surprising that Chris is targeting those particular pages, though maybe he's being pragmatic in that he knows he won't get the entire thing taken down.

<strike>Expect a video statement from me defending the CWCki and our refusal to comply</strike>. Much is at stake here, people, we shall not submit to Chris. CWCki policy refuses to censor itself (the only exception when there is a clear threat of direct harm as a result of something on the CWCki) and we shall not cave in to Chris's demands.

This is our hour, guys. Chris has discovered the fruits of our labor and we shall not go down without a fight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We will not vanish without a fight! We are going to live on! We are going to survive! Today, we celebrate our CWCkindependance Day! --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*On second thought, I changed my mind about a video. As per [[CWCki:NOTED|"CWCki is not ED"]], we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him. While a CWCki saga would be interesting, I'd rather risk possible "lulz" than CWCki's reputation as a (mostly) reliable and open source of Chris related information. In other words, let's not feed into Chris's ego at the moment by not responding in the positive or affirmative to his threat. If he does respond in some way, well, we're take it from there.
:If one thing comes out of this, I really want to hear what Chris's opinion of the CWCki is. I wonder how far he's looked into the articles and I'm guessing if he's only seen the articles of people personally connected to him, he hasn't delved far. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, I totally know how this will all go down. He's going to send some complaints, which won't work. Then he will register one or more accounts on this wiki and start editing, but of course with his edits we can all determine who he will be. Finally, he will include this website in a future installment of Sonichu, probably using a retarded plot like the survivors of the 4-Cent Garbage building assault have formed a remnant organization called CWCki to use as a hideout, and he and all the mary-sues will come destroy the trolls once and for all. Chris will give himself new powers, Heather Dalley (or the Wallflower) will be gruesomely killed off and mourned for exactly ONE panel, CWCki will fall and Chris will have certain users horribly executed and claim moral victory for himself. After all this, nothing will have changed. --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 09:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Chris already ramble previously about how trolls are good because most of the trolls are just documenting his life and acting like the paparazzi or something? Oh, wait, we hit the limit of his attention span. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We need to find that exact quote, because at exactly midnight on 12 March 2010, that's gonna be the featured quote :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's in [[C.W.C._-_Thank_You_:)]]. Here's a go at it with the relevant portion, let me know what you think: --[[User:Executor32|Executor32]] 14:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|It is good to have my own [[Trolls|trolls]]. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, [[Honest_Content|honest]] information from one, and they may later [[Chris_and_hypocrisy|twist the truth]] for their evil purposes. Just like the paparazzi. And, yet, they still, document the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the [[Ian_Brandon_Anderson|impostors]] from the [[Sammy|real]], [[Asperchu|true]], [[CChanSonichuCWC|honest individual]]. |[[Chris]], on what we do here, 03 [[August 2009]].}}

I was thinking about fucking with him. Delete those pages a few seconds before the deadline and put them back up shortly after midnight. He already hates us, so why not goad him on by exploiting loopholes? Until he comic murders us, we're his main villains. P.S. I'm glad that we were the direct cause of Chris' misfortune and pain. I love seeing him hurt. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*What about "Booby-Trapping" pages? We could link the edit buttons of the said pages to hard-core gay porn. This should do the trick. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**If we do that, which might be a good idea to deter Chris from making edits, we'd need to have a legitimate (i.e. non gay porn) way to edit the pages, in case something needs to be added or changed on those pages. Maybe have a fake advert on the side that will link to the edit page instead. But something that wouldn't interest Chris, so he won't click on it. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 15:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris used paper strips to hide a side of his computer monitor when he uploads on his shitty site CWCipedia so he won't see the porn. I have a better idea; what about a "Pop-Up" window covering the edit page of all the articles? You want to edit? You must close the Phalus-Enhanced window that had just popped on your screen. That would be quite a deterrent for Chris and a minor hassle for us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****And for those of us with a pop-up blocker, it won't be a problem at all. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****I support this. Having gay porn come up every time he tries edit warring would end this quickly. We can expect the CWCipedia forces surender within less than a week of the ads coming up. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*****CWCki is not here for trolling him. Except with the truth. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|As per "CWCki is not ED", we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him.|[[Cogsdev]], just a few paragraphs ago.}}
::::*I'm with cogs all the way on this one. We don't need to shit all over the CWCki in an attempt to piss Chris off. We exist. That's all we need to do.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Actually, I said that but Cogs would be flattered in either case :3. TK said it better than I ever could. For that reason, we shouldn't try to turn CWCki into a trolling weapon. Doing so would turn the CWCki into something it isn't, at least as I see it. Something might go down but the CWCki itself won't be involved, just the persons involved, per say. If CWCki is going to be involved, it will be what we've always done and as TK put, have always done - troll Chris with the truth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You misunderstand. I support the gay porn links for use as a defense mechanism against Chris fucking with the pages. You know he will try with at least a few pages, and even if we don't go with that idea of gay porn links, I think we should do something to stop him fucking shit up. It shouldn't be harder to handle then any of the regular vandals here, but it'd be a good if we could somehow stop it happening in the first place. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Remember his edits to the ED page. He didn't do much except blank it a couple of times, and the CWCki is way too huge for him to significantly damage. He might even give us some gems, remember [[shecameforcwc.jpg]]? We might get something nice like that.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Any edits Chris attempts to make will be A) Pathetic B) Funny or C) Informative. Also, Chris never attempted to alter the Asperpedia to my knowledge, even though you don't need an account to do so. Either way, I don't think we need to take any precautionary steps. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Dont cave in to the basterds wills we shall stand as one--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 22:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* As much as I would have loved stashing defensive porn everywhere, an "Open Door" policy will bring much more material to us. T K is right; looks like our "muse" will delivers us fresh material at our doorsteps this Friday. We better act nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Just leave him to it, document his edits and then revert them. Whatever ensues will be hilarious. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 23:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::** For added hilarity, may I suggest changing the article of the now to the [[Homos]] article? This may provoke Chris into making another attempt to "Sort out fact from fiction" at the best and make him rage at the least.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**Worth a shot. I know its a gamble, but if theres anything we know about Chris, its that he hates da homos, and especially hates being called one. It'd probably get us quite a lot of information. We thought we pretty much had Chris and his ideas of reality all summed up, and then we discover he honestly believes cartoons are real. I remember thinking, 'How the fuck did we not know that by now?' So who knows? Maybe we could get something fresh out of his stance on homos yet. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**He went back and forth constantly during the Asperpedia saga, what with curing them and blowing them up and appoligizing the very day afterwards. I doubt we'll get anything more interesting than him blanking the Homos article and leaving the line "I am STRAIGHT YOU GODDAMN HOMO TROLLS!" on that front. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 01:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**You never know with Chris. Failing that, what about the article on [[Snorlax]]? We could always use more information on her. Or he'll just blank it and replace it with "LEAVE MY MOTHER ALONE" and then we'll put the rule 34 the drunk drawfag made of him and Snorlax on his userpage. It's a good day when the best case scenario is "Chris tells us more information" and the worst case scenario is "Chris becomes angry".--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

===Clarification===
Based on a post someone made on Krapple, I think I might need to clarify what I was saying.

There's two basic approaches to how we can react to Chris:
# we fight him
# we ignore him

Any plan more or less boils down to one of these two, as I see it. Let's say we decide to turn this into a struggle - then we're going to self consciously self censor ourselves, which is something I refuse to do (save for someone's personal well being is at stake, see [[Wallflower]]). In fact, I'm not a fan of some of the edits people have made before. I personally doubt that Chris will suddenly take credence of things said on the CWCki when they've been said before on ED, on the ED forum he supposedly reads, the numerous calls, e-mails, letters, etc. from white knights trying to tell him information, etc. It's implied in pretty much all the sweetheart articles that Chris's sweethearts are all trolls. Yet Chris ''still'' believes that these were all TRUE and HONEST women who were attracted to him and suddenly died for various reasons. Aside from documenting Chris, CWCki serves to dispel misconceptions about him and the trolls that surround him so we don't have faggots spouting the same memes over and over.

Okay, so we really don't need to self censor - there really doesn't seem to be anything indicative that Chris will take what we say with any more creedence than say, ED or any faggot who gets through to him. Chris bringing attention to CWCki makes us a very valuable target for white knights. No, not faggots who genuinely want to defend Chris, I'm talking about faggots who want to gain Chris's trust and will assume that Chris will see their CWCki edits and reward them handsomely so they can get their 15 minutes of e-fame. Vandals get shot down usually fast here on CWCki but it's a bit of a bitch still.

There's a reason why people trust CWCki over ED and other sources about Chris. It's not because we look legit or anything like that. It's because we have ways of doing things. Edits are not whims. I heard some EDiot make fun of us because we use "citation needed" because we're that serious. If you're going to make an outrageous claim about Chris or claim he said something, you better be prepared to say where and when. CWCki is serious business. Probably part of the reason is because we're mostly independent of trolling - this isn't PVCC where if you piss someone off, you're banned. We're not Krapple either. CWCki is generally free to do its own thing. People are allowed to express themselves freely.

So what does this mean? It means that CWCki should stay CWCki, not an elaborate trolling pawn. It is far better that we ignore Chris or at most stand our ground and remain a valuable, less biased, accurate source of information about Chris than to devote our time and energy into making the CWCki into an elaborate way of trolling Chris. I'd rather not see people censor themselves and go to great lengths just to troll Chris with CWCki when such efforts could be used more constructively.

Let's see how Chris responds. If he puts up a fight, then we might do something. If not, then we can carry on as business as usual. In fact, we should be trying for business as usual. March Mumble Madness is still on, and plenty of the [[:Category:Mumble chats|Mumble chats]] still need to be transcribed. Don't worry about Chris discovering shit, just focus on the stuff you'd do any day. You CWCki admins are what ultimately make the CWCki so great, and I personally admire the time and dedication many of you have put in.

In the event Chris and/or white knights vandalize CWCki, jerkops, in addition to myself, Cogs, and Clyde will be on high alert for the next week or so.

In many ways, we are trolling Chris by not giving into his ego - the problem sometimes with creating villains for Chris is that it feeds into his delusion that he's some sort of hero and that he must defeat his villains to achieve his ultimate prize. In short, preserving the CWCki as it is and maintaining its integrity is our number one priority. Anything else is secondary.

Good night, CWCki, and good luck. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeh, it seems to me the correct response to all this is as little response as possible. Personally, I reckon that anybody expecting some kind of apocalyptic confrontation is going to be sorely disappointed. I mean, practically speaking, what can Chris do? Rage and complain a bit, try to blank a few pages perhaps, maybe put a curse on cogsdev. Not much else. Then the laziness will kick in and he'll go find some other way of making an ass of himself. As for the notion that he might actually learn something from reading the CWCki...well, if there's anything I've learned from reading and contributing to this site, it's that Chris believes what Chris wants to believe. There's not a hell of a lot here that he wants to believe. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 18:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

* I do agree that the CWCki needs to stand up against the vile manchild, because as soon as he sees that the CWCki isn't going anywhere, you know he's going to go on a warpath like he did with his ED page, and the ED website. But on the other hand, actually doing something may spread more fuel on Chris's fire, and that's something no one wants. Chris will think that this is just like the ED page, and this is like an arch rival he has to overcome again. My advice(if anyone is interested), I wouldn't do anything to provoke Chris, and just be polite about it, and not get into trolling him, because that may make things worse, and I agree it would ruin the CWCkipedias reputation, and I respect the CWCki too much to see that happen. But knowing Chris, he will do anything to take down the CWCki, and he's going to do it any way he can, so, at that point we would need the cavalry to come in and do the trolling for the CWCki, and put Chris in his place as always. But overall, I don't think he can do much at all aside from more Jewtube videos and BAWWWWs on his own CWCipedia quotes. Sadly for Chris, the CWCki isn't going anywhere, and for Chris, that may be the biggest insult of all. - Chris Pickles

*Well, its after the deadline, and i'm not seeing any response from Chris. He must be taking his time. I'm going to bed now. Maybe when I come back something intresting would have happened. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 03:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**He said Midnight Eastern Time, it's still 11 Eastern Time. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 03:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**Plus, we don't know how long it will take him to realize that we aren't removing the articles. We can either post the "Chris, we have nothing to do with the loss of the Wallflower" note further down on this page or make [[Bob]], [[Snorlax]], [[Lies]], or [[Homos]] the AOTN so he may be inclined to "assist" in expanding those articles..--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***It's 20 minutes past midnight, eastern time. Once again, Chris failed to keep a promise. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris seems to check in on the internet at least once per day--he did his like forty minutes before the deadline, so we'll probably get our reaction whenever he does his next sweep. Could be that he's gone to bed and will check when he wakes up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Posse commitatus ==

Any able bodied CWCki user who feels they can regularly monitor CWCki for recent changes in the next week or so, please contact me for a special assignment.

Current jerkops, please be on full alert. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be home all day tomorrow and I'll likely be available this weekend. I'll help out as much as I can. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll gladly help. I don't really have anything important to do. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Recently registered but very long time follower of Chris Chan (Back when ED and the sonichu home page was all we had) and lurker around here since the Cwcki's inception. Will also gladly help, I may be unavailable starting tomorrow for 2-3 days but after that I literally have all day every day free for a while. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:*P.S. Contact info is available on my user page. Please contact me privately, guys, if you really want to help.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

: possibly I get out of school early and will gladly help Message me on the details --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Reporting for duty Ma'am.I work from home and online anyway, so I have all day to monitor.-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Response(s) ==

I was told to put this on the Cwcki yesterday. It's a little late

''Dear Chris.
We of the CWCki site have seen your demands and would wish to respond to them.
First off, the CWCki's function is documentation, not trolling. We believe that your own CWCipedia does not fit all the criteria for being a wiki (only two people may edit) but is rather an online autobiography, and a rather one-sided one at that. We have filled this gap by creating an open and comprehensive documentation of you and your work.

Secondly, we of the CWCki pride ourselves in the accuracy of our articles. We strive constantly to attempt to check and double-check our articles for any errors. We have made no attempt to twist facts or lie in any way. If there is anything on our site that you believe is a lie, please let us know what it is.

Third, we never sent any message to your "girl friend", and we did not have any intention to. The person who sent the message is a third party member with no known ties to the CWCki.

Fourthly, since your "girl friend" ran away as quickly as she did, and since we go to great lengths to make our articles as accurate as possible, we are suspicious that you may have deceived her in some way. After all, if you were always telling the truth about yourself, why would she break up when she saw what she already knew?

Finally, we did not force your "girl friend" to leave you, she did that out of her own free will. We do not entirely understand why you are so angry at us for this.
Hoping our further communications will be on more friendly terms,
The CWCki''

:Well, could it hurt to make the Article of the Now into something from the Web of Life template(preferably Snorlax)? I'd like it if we could spit in his face at least a ''little'' bit before this is over.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Made some edits. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 07:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::*It looks fine to me.
::*I love this. Quite the perfect stance the CWCki need to take. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* You should make Bob AOTN - that way Chris will probably make some sort of statement on ihs health.--[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 22:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:**Either Bob or Snorlax would make a nice AOTN, but I'd prefer Snorlax on the off chance Chris tries to edit her page. He seems to have forgotten that we know what she looks like.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* All right, now that we seem to have the message settled, how are we going to give it to Chris? Do we place it somewhere on the CWCki? Do we email Chris? Or are we gonna do something else?[[User:Kraken|Kraken]]
:** We can put it right below the featured quote, he'll probably notice it there. Changing the featured article to Megan or SheCameForCWC.jpg is also an option.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 20:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

*Not to be a dick guys but c'mon, giving a formal message like this is contrary to the stance we're going to take. Giving Chris a response is feeding into his ego, even if it's a simple message. In any case, I have taken into your considerations for the Article of the Now, but personally, I was thinking [[Patti Chandler]] and with the most offensive fan art (one of the one where she's raping Chris or something like that) as the article of the now. Failing that, then maybe Snorlax. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Thinking about it some more, I was a bit hard headed. Tell you what - if Chris pushes the CWCki thing so much, we'll make a video of this in addition to the quote of the now. That's if Chris responds, mind you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Demands ==
Well, I think it's clear that he didn't even click on some of the articles--half of them are stubs to begin with. Also, he's extended his deadline and doesn't get why Heather had her article removed. Also the Hambeast has a name now. Who wants to take action?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 07:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* As usual, Chris puts absolutely no thought into his threats or demands, and has no intelligence to begin with anyways. There's nothing he can do to the cwcki, once again, Chris is fighting against something that he just has no power over, and it's completely beyond his control. My advice, I think we do need to fire back at Chris with something, just to show that the CWCki isn't going anywhere. I think we need to add some stuff to the articles he's complaining about, and improve them, maybe add some more details and maybe even revise some of the pages completely. I think that would stick in Chris's side pretty good. It's not what I would consider "Trolling", but just to show Chris that the CWCki is boss, and we do not have to do anything he says just because he doesn't like it. I would hold off on any kind of video response or direct action from the CWCkipedia, I think silence will kill Chris more. --[[user:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 05:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

*I disagree. While the theory is that giving him a response would just feed his ego, I think the discovery that the trolls made an entire wiki all about him was already enough to do that. I say we respond. I think we should use the letter to Chris seen above on the featured quote page as a way of telling him to fuck off. While we're at it, go about improving those articles as you said, and as was sugested, make Megan, or another 'Gal-Pal' the article of the now. If need be, we make the video too and put it with the featured quote. If he keeps quiet then we'll spare him the video and just leave him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 13:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

** You know Edward, I changed my mind, I agree with you 100%. I do think we should come up with a formal address to Chris himself via the front page of the cwcki. Something special for both Chris, and avid readers of the cwcki. Something sophisticated and swarmy I think. Insulting him would be pointless, but I think if we made a direct, formal address that doesn't pull any BS, and just gets right to the point, that would be awesome. At some point, the CWCki has to make its stand against Chris(because we only have till the 31st until chris UNVEILS HIS WRATH ARRGH!), and make it aware to people that no one is backing down. I just don't know what that address should be though, I guess it's something left up to the sysop to decide on, but it should be something that's well constructed, and just pisses Chris off as well. I mean, the guy just made a video admitting he's so desperate he would pay for hookers and begging for a girlfriend. So, there's no real reason to hold back, but I say represent the best of the cwcki. --[[Chris_Pickles]] 03:11, 15th March 2010 (UTC)
*** I think we ought to make it obvious to Chris why the pages have just been protected--you just know that his ego is going to twist that in his favor.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

* I'd go with Snorlax for maximum damage--he put a lot of emphasis on ALL OF MY RELATIVES and Bob/Barbara have the largest articles. He's freaking out about this because he's afraid that his parents are going to find out that we know about them(He didn't think we knew what they looked like). Snorlax especially, since she's adamant about staying off the internet. For bonus points make "SnorlaxCameForCWC" the image of the now.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** SheCameForCWC.jpg is also another option. Imagine what happens when Chris discovers that the hated image has it's own article. Also, I know someone has Rule 34 of Jivin, so we could make that the IOTN. Failing that we can use the rule 34 Isabel made of Magi-chan and the "Redesigned" Asperchu!Magi-chan.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** Thats not two Magi-Chans. That image is of Magi-Chan and Swift, the exact Magi-Chan duplicate that Chris created while attempting to retcon Asperchu. The image is actually called 'Hecameforswift.png.' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* Why don't we just pretend to follow up with Chris's demands again? Even though it has been done before, I think it could be interesting to see what his reaction would be if we took the stuff out for a day or two. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 07:22, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*And having Chris switch into "Smug Mode" for a while? No way. Besides, he's creating the most Lulz when his whims are denied. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 12:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*NEVER COMPROMISE, EVEN IN THE FACE OF ARMAGEDDON.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**No. We do not negotiate with terrorists. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's nowhere near as funny unless he's screaming or breaking the camera. I'm still hoping for a video where he's both naked and screaming.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** Nah, giving into his demands, even as a joke, would just feed his enormous ego more, and we'd obviously see a video of Chris touting a "win" over CWCki. Standing against the manchild and essentially giving him a big "Fuck You" would be a lot more satisfying (And it might deflate Chris's ego slightly.....Well, we can dream) than a quick switcheroo. --[[User:Torvalr|Torvalr]] 10:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page protections ==

In light of Chris's demands, I have opted to protect all of the pages he listed on CWCipedia. Reasons are twofold:
# to prevent Chris from editing them once he realizes that he can, you know, just get an account the pages.
# to prevent white knights, faggots, and other assorted idiots from complying with Chris's demands.

Whatever may come of this, CWCki will not comply with Chris's demands, as doing so would be a violation of the principles CWCki and wikis in general stand for.

I apologize for the page protections, but I feel this is a reasonable precautionary measure that may ease up the workload of our jerkops and admins who are already on high alert. If you feel you have information that must ABSOLUTELY go in the article, post it on the article talk page and an admin will determine whether to sort of it out.

Protections will last until 01 April, and depending on Chris's responses may be extended slightly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== 500 internal server error ==

500 internal server error is completely fucking me up, there are moments that I can hardly edit pages because of it. I'm sorry if we allready have discussion on it, but we need more. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 19:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that those errors are annoying the shit out of me. In fact, I got one just now when I was trying to edit this page. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* Thirded-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I know. This shit is annoying. Possibly the most annoying thing i've come across on the internet. And I've seen the 'Who broke the copier copier copier copier' ad. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Guys, just refresh or whatever. This is nothing compared to how shit used to be when we were on 110mb. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::*fixed? maybe [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*It's better than it was yesterday. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
* I have learned to love those errors. It will slow down vandals and even Chris if they show up to mess with the CWCki. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Just wanna say I dig the new error pages. Funny stuff, nicely done. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 14:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== TV Tropes page? ==

Should we have a page on the various TV Tropes pages of Sonichu, and the fact that Chris is a ''god'' in the Trope Pantheon ([http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces under Disgraces, the God of Bile Fascination, to be exact])? He's fourth from the bottom on that page, but for the sake of simplicity I'll list his "god" info here, as exact as I can make it:

<blockquote>
'''[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Christian Weston Chandler], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination God of Bile Fascination]''' (CWC, Chris-Chan Sonichu, Ian Brandon Anderson)
* Quasideity [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SmallNameBigEgo that thinks he's an Overdeity]
* Symbol: His [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Sonichu] Medallion
* Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
* Portfolio: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoBadItsHorrible Comics that are unreadable] [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination but that you can't stop coming back to], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished Using narrative to prove his righteousness]
* Domains: Animal, Envy, Hatred, Lust, Pestilence, Sloth
* Rival with [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces David Gonterman] for all his portfolios.
* Other enemies: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheImageboardThatMustNotBeNamed "4-Cent Garbage"], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Technology Sonic The Hedgehog], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Beast Pikachu], Anyone in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Justice Justice] for being Jerkops.
* Chris-Chan used to spend his days lurking in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Love Love] but was banned. Ever since then he has sworn revenge by [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished drawing them getting beaten up by him]
* Position: None. Apparently the other Disgraces keep him around so they can look good in comparison.
* Chance of Redemption: Slim to none.
</blockquote>

Who knows, maybe this "amazing honor" can be used in the "Did You Know..." section if a fake Chris-appeasing main page is used once the deadline passes? Just an idea. --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 22:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

:Please don't. TvTropes doesn't have an easy revert function, so when he shows up to try editing it will be a pain in the ass to clean up. --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 00:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

*We already have a link to the TV Tropes page in the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic]] article, I think that's good. People interested in these tropes can refer to TV Tropes article for that purpose. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== Essay on CWCki ==

Someone wrote a [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/26862.html pretty decent] essay on CWCki for a totally legit college class and posted it on [[Krapple|/cwc]]. Check it out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* That person is made of win. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* The gentleman deserves all the proper honors we can award him for this paper.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== So Chris thinks I'm Tito ==

if you like reading fake info, check the history --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

*(Removing my comment so I look less like a moron. Mostly just skimmed it because of WALL OF TEXT.) -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 09:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

*yeah, okay [[User:Batty|Batty]]. you didn't even try to make this look real. get the fuck out. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

**just seemed to be copy/pasted from the transcribed videos, most likely just attention whoring. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 09:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

::*Banned for great justice --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 12:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Only 25 pages till the 1,000 mark ==

Will we celebrate somehow? --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be sure to go get drunk, if that's any good. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 12:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

== CWCki and POV ==

[http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/27273.html This thread] on [[Krapple|/cwc]] made quite a stir, essentially with the OP complaining how we have POV. However, I think this is a fair accusation - that we're POV, that is we're biased against Chris.

Currently, it's clear that [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#POV_is_the_norm|CWCki is POV]] by its nature and the nature of its subject. Trying to be unbiased about Chris is like trying to be unbiased about Hitler - most people are going to hate him and it's really hard to say anything nice about either one without being attacked for sympathizing with them.

Personally, I think that CWCki should more or less remain critical towards Chris but not outright bash him - it's alright to point out Chris, for instance, is a [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrite]] based on the facts, but not that he's a "complete and utter failure" simply because of his hypocrisy. Any sort of judgment on Chris should more or less be left to the reader. As was the problem with [[Chris and race]], CWCki really should try to present the facts about Chris in a way such that what Chris says mostly speaks for itself, with minor explanatory notes and allow the reader come to his own conclusion about Chris.

However, it is possible to be NPOV, but this is difficult and I think would force us to take a different tone in articles, ending up being bland and with less flexibility.

Mind you, I'm not saying we have to be nice to Chris, only that it seems that some expect us to be unbiased towards Chris and present information in an unbiased manner, which I think is not a totally unreasonable request but may not suit our needs. But nonetheless, I think it's a reasonable complaint and I think maybe we should address it (though it's unfortunate the person who started this thread did not bring it up here, but instead opted to go on Krapple).

Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think, why bother? Who would really want to view an unbiased page about Chris? He is complete scum, and most people know it after barely skimming over these articles. I don't think he even deserves unbiased judgement. He threw that out the window ages ago. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 09:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

:*Champ, I think you have the right idea. NOTED is the thing, and we're not. EDiots put stuff in, you go round and change it. The tone is fine, and provided we don't wade outright into things, then CWCki can at least keep some degree of impartiality. We're here to document, not to actually troll Chris. That's what we have PVCC/cwc/edf for.

Being NPOV would be alot of work. Provided the humour doesn't go along the lines of "OMG FAT RETARD", we're probably doing alright for ourselves. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Just clearing up a small misconception: [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]] doesn't mean "Good and bad views must be covered in equal measure". It means "If it's a fact that is covered in a reliable sources, it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative in tone - what matters is that it's a fact, and our job is to report it". In other words, facts speak up for themselves and we can't consciously choose to include either good or bad views, ''because that's what taking a point of view is all about''. So yes, I believe we can be neutral; for most of the part, we're ''already there''. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 11:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
*If anyone knows about this shit, it's Wwwwolf being our resident Wikifag and whatnot. RPOBLEM SOLVED.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:::With NPOV, i think CWCki would become a TL;DR collection, i recall some pages with a sarcastic point of view in them, and delivered all the info correctly, for example, in the page for [[ Sonichu's Edge]] we wuld have to remove the images, fan videos and remove "One can only imagine what the innocent citizens of Charlottesville must have thought as a fat, sweaty retard went puffing ...". To me, there is only 1 way to make CWCki interesting to read, POV is the norm.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 06:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Memorandum on Jerkop powers ==

With the exception of Quality Control Jerkops (at which moment there are no active ones), Jerkop powers are limited to deleting, moving, etc. pages only in regards to vandalism (i.e. vandal creates a page entitled "YOUR MOM SUCKS BLACK COCK" or uploads over 9000 Goatse variants). Jerkops have no authority to use their powers for editoral decisions. They are welcome to initiate the discussion of merging, deleting articles, as any other user, but they cannot use their powers to execute such plans.

Ultimate power for deletion and merging of articles belongs to admins. Admins, ideally, will recognize the will of the community but it is ultimately their decision.

I do not wish to name names but a certain Jerkop who deleted a page recently went beyond their powers and uprightly so. True, it was a sucky page that I would have deleted, but nonetheless I would have handled the situation differently than they would have.

Jerkops who wish to have Quality Control privileges can request them and interview for the position. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:42, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
*I'm not even a Jerkop yet, but is there any way I could be come a Quality Control one? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 21:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== DVD Transcriptions ==

I'm working on transcribing the notes from the DVDs. I guess they're not absolutely needed, but would it still be ok to make a page for them? ChaosAkita 21:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Featured articles? ==

I noticed that [[Chris and anger]] and [[2009]] were both marked as featured articles, but there was no process of any kind; they just seem to have randomly gotten slapped with stars. If we're going to have featured articles, we need a rubric to determine what qualifies as "featured," and maybe a process to vote on what should be featured. See discussion [[Category_talk:Featured_articles#Use_it_or_lose_it|here]]. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 00:47, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== Angelica 34 ==

What happened to that picture of Angelica [[mass debating]]? It's off the 34 page, and a search of the term "angelica" on every type of page turns nothing up.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 02:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I found it. I went to the 110mb for the file. Also, I never want to do that again.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

== Chris is ending Sonichu ==

The ad on top of the Cwcipedia says he's discontinuing Sonichu. Either that, or I misread it. Does this mean what I think it means? If so, should we rejoice? Mourn? [[User:ninjaclown|ninjaclown]] 06:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
* No he isn't. Need I remind you who controls the adspace? (Hint: It's not Chris)--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
**I see. My bad then. [[User:ninjaclown|ninjaclown]] 07:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

== Stay safe ==

Seriously, I rage every time Chris says this. It's his generic parting catch phrase, because apparently "good-bye" or "see you later" aren't enough. Should we make a page on this, documenting every time he says it and listing possible theories as to why he's so obsessed with everyone's safety? This would also be a good opportunity to link to death threats he's made, especially to people he's told to "stay safe".

Thank you for your time CWCki, and stay safe. [[User:IanBrandonAnderson|IanBrandonAnderson]] 20:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

:I agree with this statement. Stay safe, CWCki. --[[User:Blunderscore|Blunderscore]] 20:27, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Stay safe probably doesn't merit a page of it's own, but it's a good point, and it would be worth adding into another article there- It is one of Chris's stranger CWCisms, and it is a tasty piece of irony too. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking [[Minor CWC-isms]] maybe? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, Minor CWC-isms is probably the place for it. STAY SAFE, GUYS. ONLY 44 HOURS 'TILL SHIT GOES DOWN. Assuming Chris has even remembered, that is. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 08:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Jerkops and admins ==

Please contact me ASAP. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*SHUT THE FUCK UP CHAMP

but seriously yeah talk to champ [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== 500 Internal Server error solved? ==
If you get the error starting from now, tell us. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

okay i just got it :( [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
* Yeah, I just got it a few seconds ago. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 03:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
*Last night, when I cliked on that little animation of Jimmy Hill in the Fan Art section. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
**And also just now, when I tried to post the sentence above. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
***I tried against and got something which said 'Location: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/CWCki:Community_Portal
' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
****Then another 500 error. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
*****Then another location. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
******Another 500. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
*******Another. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Bob Chandler dead? ==

Today I was on Chris's Sonichu page (http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm) and I noticed something:
"Updated: 3/31/2010

Sonichu is no longer being updated. My father's passing has been too great for me. :( It is like I Lost Patti All Over Again."
Chris hasn't made any official announcement of this, as far as I know, and it hasn't been mentioned anywhere on the CWCki. Is anyone else aware of this?
[[User:Thecornbreadhour|Thecornbreadhour]] 03:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm skeptical about this announcement. Chris has not made any official video about it, and for all I know, that site may have been hacked, considering Chris's poor choice of passwords. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 03:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::The Tripod page is maintained by trolls. If you want to really know call the hospital Bob is at. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 03:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, considering the update was one day before April Fool's, it was obvious that the page was updated by trolls. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 03:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::::The page also gives a phone number to call an imposter Chris at, with a Charlottesville area code. -[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 03:15, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Mimms and Lucas Q&A

2010-04-03T01:29:39Z

Borednewb:

Clyde talked about being willing to post these here on CWCki since there's some Krapplefags who want to join PVCC just to see this thread. Personally I've been meaning to do this but I've been kinda lazy to do so.

On a related note, we need a category like "Primary sources" for stuff like this, like stuff about Chris from people who have had direct contact with him but not actually Chris (like [[Tale of the Crazy Pacer]]).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:20, 17 October 2009 (CEST)
*How about "Eyewitness Accounts"? I'll start categorizing things. [[User:Ayvuir|Ayvuir]] 18:47, 17 October 2009 (CEST)
** yeah, a lot of other shit came up though so...someone else doing it would be great! [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:49, 17 October 2009 (CEST)
*This is awesome. Keep them coming. --[[User:AntonImausMk2|AntonImausMk2]] 23:46, 1 December 2009 (CET)

I'M ONLY HALF A YEAR LATE ON WORKING ON THIS! GO ME. will finish later [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:there, fucking finished [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:43, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

==Tito?==

This may explain why Chris assumed he knew who Surfshack Tito was.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
*Shitcunt. I was just coming here to point that out. But yeah, that may explain some things. -[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 01:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:F Abstinance

2010-03-29T06:08:22Z

Borednewb:

let me have a whack at transcribing something [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:13, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
:jesus christ now i know how you guys feel [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Good luck making a summary of this one. He's raging about kids learning abstinence because he's a virgin, then goes on to say that the comics are bad but a small thing like a backpack is fine (even though he's not getting a dime). Great.... --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:36, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

:What's the source for the quote at the top of the page about the LBP costumes? --[[User:Hatredy|Hatredy]] 00:31, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

::It's what Chris put in the description box on youtube. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 00:35, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

==Still thinks he's in High School==
His mentioning getting up during an assembly makes me think we can confirm the theory he never left high school mentally. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]

You just figured that out? --[[User:Exemplary|Exemplary]] 04:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh I knew that just wanted to make a suggestion for some more evidence we can provide. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]

Every time I am hearing the term "Assembly", it is somewhat linked to a church. Just sayin' [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
* I thought that myself. That suggests he recently had a sermon on abstinance. In this case it probably wasn't refering to the abstinance of priests, but trying to suggest to young people that it is a valid alternative to being sexually active. Which might explain Chris' rage, anyone suggesting to young women that NOT having sex is a good idea would be HIS ENEMY. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 06:08, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

== Sunday is video day. ==

He's been making a lot of videos on Sundays. I think last week someone at his church told him to leave the internet and this week someone at church told him to stop trying to rape people and to practice abstinence. I bet he just learned the word today.[[User:DamianAntaria|DamianAntaria]]
:Either that or a girl just used it as an excuse to flee his presence recently. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 01:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:I also have the feeling that someone is preaching to our Chris. Is Rocky losing her grip on our favorite tub of lard? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't really read to me like something from church. He's actively mad at the concept of abstinence, which leads me to believe that he feels like the concept cost him a shot at some china recently. Maybe that was the Wallflower's final excuse as to why she didn't want to give it up to him, or he tried to make a move on another girl and she explained that she'd taken a pledge or something. Either way, I think if he'd just been preached abstinence he might make a video about opposing it, but I doubt he'd sound so angry about it. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 03:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealing_First_Base This recent episode of The Simpsons may have something to do with it], though he's also probably still pissed about the Wallflower incident. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 04:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
*It'd be interesting to get some statistics on Chris's videos - average length, the days he uploads videos on, time of day, that sort of thing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Yeah, that'd be a table worth putting together. A lot of them, it would be hard to peg what time of day they went up now because we're down to the CWCVille Library copies, but the rest of the data could be interesting. As for abstinence, just going on pure irrational bias about the content of sex education courses in semi-rural Virginia, he probably got an earful about it in high school, but he was also probably too busy reading Goosebumps to get too wound up about it at the time. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 00:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Could this be next month's project then? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 00:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, CWC has made 32 videos in 2010. 4 on Mondays, 4 on Tuesdays, 6 on Wednesdays, 3 on Thursdays, 5 on Fridays, 7 on Saturdays and only 3 on Sundays. So Saturdays seem to be the days Chris is most willing to make a fool of himself. [[User:DamianAntaria|DamianAntaria]]

== Another reason why I hate this mother fucker. ==

Seriously? He now wants people to rise up against abstinence? *Facepalm* If a girl doesn't want to have sex, then she '''doesn't want to have sex.''' It's a simple concept. He's just jealous that you can't get any china. Besides, any girl would want to proclaim abstinence around a creepy obese, greasy, sweaty, smelly stalking rapist like himself.

Ugh... I don't want to talk any more about this. I hope he gets pepper sprayed one day, though.

--[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 03:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
* I can't wait to see what two words get mashed together to describe ''that'' incident. "Jerk" don't really portmanteau with "girl" the way it does with "cop" and "manager." -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 04:29, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
**Abstigirl? Bitchstinance? -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 06:08, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Friend zone

2010-03-19T06:47:33Z

Borednewb:

[[Chris]] has rarely been able to even form a casual friendship with a woman, and generally just harasses [[Megan Schroeder|the]] [[The Wallflower |ones]] who will approach him. Nevertheless, his single-minded focus on going all the way and getting laid has led him to view the concept of the '''friend zone''' with disgust. Friendship, in Chris's mind, is merely a tactic women use to avoid giving guys like him the [[china]] they deserve.

==The friend zone defined==
[[File:Into the friend zone.jpg|thumb|Even with this illustration, Chris will probably never understand this concept.]]

Nowadays the "friend zone" is a common topic in discussions of romantic relationships. From one perspective, the friend zone is where guys wind up when they spend too much time getting to know a woman without trying to make a move towards a more serious relationship. Eventually, the woman views them as "just friends" (or "[[Cole Smithey|like a brother]]," to use one variation on the theme) rather than a potential lover.

From another perspective, a woman might value her friendship with a man too much to take the risk of advancing to a more serious commitment, which could lead to an ugly breakup and the end of any sort of relationship with him.

It's possible for a woman to enjoy a man's company without wanting to go to bed with him (and for a man to likewise feel the same way about a woman). Most people are capable of accepting this fact, even if it's a bit difficult to deal with when one has been "friended" by the object of one's affection. Chris, of course, has other ideas.

==Chris on the friend zone==
[[Image:cwcfz.png|thumb|right|Chris and where is he in the Friend Zone.]]
Like many other supposed "rules" related to sex and dating, the friend zone is in fact a pretty nebulous concept. Chris, unable to think about relationships except in the most [[Autism|rigid, inflexible terms]], characterizes the friend zone as a law, a hard and fast rule that he apparently believes has been forced upon him by some unspecified authority. (This is similar to his interpretation of the [[Third date|three-date rule]].)

In [[Mumble 4]] [[Clyde Cash]] had a brief discussion on the friend zone with Chris, brought on by Chris's assumption that [[Sarah Hammer]] was interested in him romantically simply because they were neighbors. Chris responded to Clyde's assessment of his friendzone status by talking about the movie "[[Wikipedia:Just Friends|Just Friends]]," which he also cited in a Mailbag question several months later.

In [[Mailbag 4]], a correspondent asked him what law he would change if he could change a single one. (His intention was probably to bait Chris into discussing the "dumb laws" preventing [[Zapina|teenage girls]] from taking off their clothes in public.) Chris responded with a tirade against the friend zone.

{{quote|I would remove the "Law" of the "Friend Zone", because I feel that it is just wrong to not even attempt to have anything beyond friendship, especially if the man and the woman are both comfortable with each other and are close.|Chris, failing to understand women as usual.}}

Later, he expanded his opinion somewhat in the [[Common_Questions#Answered_15_January_2010|Common Questions]] section of the Mailbag. In this case, a correspondent quite reasonably asked, "What happened to a woman's right to choose who she wants to be with?"

{{quote|Nothing has happened in Women's Rights; the "Friend Zone" is only the LOUSIEST EXCUSE EVER to give to someone the woman deeply cares about and trusts so she could get out of sex or a relationship. I do not take kindly to that Excuse at this time.|Chris, cursing any woman who tries to "get out of [the] sex" she clearly owes him.}}

Chris's characterization of "we're just friends" as an "excuse" is revealing, both in regards to his ideas about women and his view of himself. He cannot imagine a rational explanation for why a female friend would not want to have sex with him (except in the case of [[Anna]] - he's willing to accept that there's no point in hitting on a lesbian). Instead, he believes that women have invented excuses like this one because for some reason they fear a sexual relationship. If he is attracted to her and wants to sleep with her, he feels that she is obligated to return his interest and help bring his degenerate fantasies to life. In the worst case scenario, Chris would refuse to listen to a woman's "excuses" and [[Chris_and_sex#Chris_and_rape| rape]] [[Megan|her]].

==[[Gal pal|Gal Pals]] and the friend zone==
'''[[Megan Schroeder]]'''

Chris's comments about the friend zone shed a bit more light on his relationship with Megan Schroeder (and its spectacular collapse). While Megan was happy to enjoy an ordinary, platonic friendship with Chris — which, most observers would agree, is far more than he could ever have reasonably hoped for — he clearly couldn't get his mind around the notion of a woman who didn't mind his company, but didn't want to have sex with him. From his perspective, she was "making excuses," since there's no way she could have been sincerely interested in nothing more than a good friendship. Hence his refusal to quit subjecting her to physical pressure, his assumption that only sexual inexperience prevented her from wanting to fuck him, and so on.

'''[[The Wallflower]]'''

Even after the Megan debacle, Chris was still oblivious to the concept of friend zone when dealing with the Wallflower. Chris revealed in his video [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!]] that she had been consistently telling Chris that she "isn't ready for a boyfriend". He is not aware that this is a commonly used technique for rejecting people, and that he had been seen as nothing more than friends - even before the Wallflower became aware of the CWCki. Since he had to be told multiple times that she wasn't ready for a boyfriend, this implies he went past the boundaries of good taste multiple times despite being told it was unappreciated. This surprised no one.

==See also==
* [[Chris and sex]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

[[Category:Chris-chan]]

CWCki:Community Portal

2010-03-18T09:24:38Z

Borednewb:

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

Please consult the archives to make sure your concern hasn't already been posted before:

[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 4]]

== So Chris has discovered the CWCki (finally) ==

As you can guess, he'll have to pry those pages from my COLD, DEAD HANDS before I consider deleting them. It's not surprising that Chris is targeting those particular pages, though maybe he's being pragmatic in that he knows he won't get the entire thing taken down.

<strike>Expect a video statement from me defending the CWCki and our refusal to comply</strike>. Much is at stake here, people, we shall not submit to Chris. CWCki policy refuses to censor itself (the only exception when there is a clear threat of direct harm as a result of something on the CWCki) and we shall not cave in to Chris's demands.

This is our hour, guys. Chris has discovered the fruits of our labor and we shall not go down without a fight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We will not vanish without a fight! We are going to live on! We are going to survive! Today, we celebrate our CWCkindependance Day! --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*On second thought, I changed my mind about a video. As per [[CWCki:NOTED|"CWCki is not ED"]], we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him. While a CWCki saga would be interesting, I'd rather risk possible "lulz" than CWCki's reputation as a (mostly) reliable and open source of Chris related information. In other words, let's not feed into Chris's ego at the moment by not responding in the positive or affirmative to his threat. If he does respond in some way, well, we're take it from there.
:If one thing comes out of this, I really want to hear what Chris's opinion of the CWCki is. I wonder how far he's looked into the articles and I'm guessing if he's only seen the articles of people personally connected to him, he hasn't delved far. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, I totally know how this will all go down. He's going to send some complaints, which won't work. Then he will register one or more accounts on this wiki and start editing, but of course with his edits we can all determine who he will be. Finally, he will include this website in a future installment of Sonichu, probably using a retarded plot like the survivors of the 4-Cent Garbage building assault have formed a remnant organization called CWCki to use as a hideout, and he and all the mary-sues will come destroy the trolls once and for all. Chris will give himself new powers, Heather Dalley (or the Wallflower) will be gruesomely killed off and mourned for exactly ONE panel, CWCki will fall and Chris will have certain users horribly executed and claim moral victory for himself. After all this, nothing will have changed. --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 09:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Chris already ramble previously about how trolls are good because most of the trolls are just documenting his life and acting like the paparazzi or something? Oh, wait, we hit the limit of his attention span. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We need to find that exact quote, because at exactly midnight on 12 March 2010, that's gonna be the featured quote :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's in [[C.W.C._-_Thank_You_:)]]. Here's a go at it with the relevant portion, let me know what you think: --[[User:Executor32|Executor32]] 14:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|It is good to have my own [[Trolls|trolls]]. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, [[Honest_Content|honest]] information from one, and they may later [[Chris_and_hypocrisy|twist the truth]] for their evil purposes. Just like the paparazzi. And, yet, they still, document the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the [[Ian_Brandon_Anderson|impostors]] from the [[Sammy|real]], [[Asperchu|true]], [[CChanSonichuCWC|honest individual]]. |[[Chris]], on what we do here, 03 [[August 2009]].}}

I was thinking about fucking with him. Delete those pages a few seconds before the deadline and put them back up shortly after midnight. He already hates us, so why not goad him on by exploiting loopholes? Until he comic murders us, we're his main villains. P.S. I'm glad that we were the direct cause of Chris' misfortune and pain. I love seeing him hurt. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*What about "Booby-Trapping" pages? We could link the edit buttons of the said pages to hard-core gay porn. This should do the trick. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**If we do that, which might be a good idea to deter Chris from making edits, we'd need to have a legitimate (i.e. non gay porn) way to edit the pages, in case something needs to be added or changed on those pages. Maybe have a fake advert on the side that will link to the edit page instead. But something that wouldn't interest Chris, so he won't click on it. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 15:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris used paper strips to hide a side of his computer monitor when he uploads on his shitty site CWCipedia so he won't see the porn. I have a better idea; what about a "Pop-Up" window covering the edit page of all the articles? You want to edit? You must close the Phalus-Enhanced window that had just popped on your screen. That would be quite a deterrent for Chris and a minor hassle for us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****And for those of us with a pop-up blocker, it won't be a problem at all. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****I support this. Having gay porn come up every time he tries edit warring would end this quickly. We can expect the CWCipedia forces surender within less than a week of the ads coming up. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*****CWCki is not here for trolling him. Except with the truth. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|As per "CWCki is not ED", we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him.|[[Cogsdev]], just a few paragraphs ago.}}
::::*I'm with cogs all the way on this one. We don't need to shit all over the CWCki in an attempt to piss Chris off. We exist. That's all we need to do.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Actually, I said that but Cogs would be flattered in either case :3. TK said it better than I ever could. For that reason, we shouldn't try to turn CWCki into a trolling weapon. Doing so would turn the CWCki into something it isn't, at least as I see it. Something might go down but the CWCki itself won't be involved, just the persons involved, per say. If CWCki is going to be involved, it will be what we've always done and as TK put, have always done - troll Chris with the truth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You misunderstand. I support the gay porn links for use as a defense mechanism against Chris fucking with the pages. You know he will try with at least a few pages, and even if we don't go with that idea of gay porn links, I think we should do something to stop him fucking shit up. It shouldn't be harder to handle then any of the regular vandals here, but it'd be a good if we could somehow stop it happening in the first place. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Remember his edits to the ED page. He didn't do much except blank it a couple of times, and the CWCki is way too huge for him to significantly damage. He might even give us some gems, remember [[shecameforcwc.jpg]]? We might get something nice like that.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Any edits Chris attempts to make will be A) Pathetic B) Funny or C) Informative. Also, Chris never attempted to alter the Asperpedia to my knowledge, even though you don't need an account to do so. Either way, I don't think we need to take any precautionary steps. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Dont cave in to the basterds wills we shall stand as one--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 22:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* As much as I would have loved stashing defensive porn everywhere, an "Open Door" policy will bring much more material to us. T K is right; looks like our "muse" will delivers us fresh material at our doorsteps this Friday. We better act nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Just leave him to it, document his edits and then revert them. Whatever ensues will be hilarious. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 23:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::** For added hilarity, may I suggest changing the article of the now to the [[Homos]] article? This may provoke Chris into making another attempt to "Sort out fact from fiction" at the best and make him rage at the least.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**Worth a shot. I know its a gamble, but if theres anything we know about Chris, its that he hates da homos, and especially hates being called one. It'd probably get us quite a lot of information. We thought we pretty much had Chris and his ideas of reality all summed up, and then we discover he honestly believes cartoons are real. I remember thinking, 'How the fuck did we not know that by now?' So who knows? Maybe we could get something fresh out of his stance on homos yet. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**He went back and forth constantly during the Asperpedia saga, what with curing them and blowing them up and appoligizing the very day afterwards. I doubt we'll get anything more interesting than him blanking the Homos article and leaving the line "I am STRAIGHT YOU GODDAMN HOMO TROLLS!" on that front. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 01:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**You never know with Chris. Failing that, what about the article on [[Snorlax]]? We could always use more information on her. Or he'll just blank it and replace it with "LEAVE MY MOTHER ALONE" and then we'll put the rule 34 the drunk drawfag made of him and Snorlax on his userpage. It's a good day when the best case scenario is "Chris tells us more information" and the worst case scenario is "Chris becomes angry".--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

===Clarification===
Based on a post someone made on Krapple, I think I might need to clarify what I was saying.

There's two basic approaches to how we can react to Chris:
# we fight him
# we ignore him

Any plan more or less boils down to one of these two, as I see it. Let's say we decide to turn this into a struggle - then we're going to self consciously self censor ourselves, which is something I refuse to do (save for someone's personal well being is at stake, see [[Wallflower]]). In fact, I'm not a fan of some of the edits people have made before. I personally doubt that Chris will suddenly take credence of things said on the CWCki when they've been said before on ED, on the ED forum he supposedly reads, the numerous calls, e-mails, letters, etc. from white knights trying to tell him information, etc. It's implied in pretty much all the sweetheart articles that Chris's sweethearts are all trolls. Yet Chris ''still'' believes that these were all TRUE and HONEST women who were attracted to him and suddenly died for various reasons. Aside from documenting Chris, CWCki serves to dispel misconceptions about him and the trolls that surround him so we don't have faggots spouting the same memes over and over.

Okay, so we really don't need to self censor - there really doesn't seem to be anything indicative that Chris will take what we say with any more creedence than say, ED or any faggot who gets through to him. Chris bringing attention to CWCki makes us a very valuable target for white knights. No, not faggots who genuinely want to defend Chris, I'm talking about faggots who want to gain Chris's trust and will assume that Chris will see their CWCki edits and reward them handsomely so they can get their 15 minutes of e-fame. Vandals get shot down usually fast here on CWCki but it's a bit of a bitch still.

There's a reason why people trust CWCki over ED and other sources about Chris. It's not because we look legit or anything like that. It's because we have ways of doing things. Edits are not whims. I heard some EDiot make fun of us because we use "citation needed" because we're that serious. If you're going to make an outrageous claim about Chris or claim he said something, you better be prepared to say where and when. CWCki is serious business. Probably part of the reason is because we're mostly independent of trolling - this isn't PVCC where if you piss someone off, you're banned. We're not Krapple either. CWCki is generally free to do its own thing. People are allowed to express themselves freely.

So what does this mean? It means that CWCki should stay CWCki, not an elaborate trolling pawn. It is far better that we ignore Chris or at most stand our ground and remain a valuable, less biased, accurate source of information about Chris than to devote our time and energy into making the CWCki into an elaborate way of trolling Chris. I'd rather not see people censor themselves and go to great lengths just to troll Chris with CWCki when such efforts could be used more constructively.

Let's see how Chris responds. If he puts up a fight, then we might do something. If not, then we can carry on as business as usual. In fact, we should be trying for business as usual. March Mumble Madness is still on, and plenty of the [[:Category:Mumble chats|Mumble chats]] still need to be transcribed. Don't worry about Chris discovering shit, just focus on the stuff you'd do any day. You CWCki admins are what ultimately make the CWCki so great, and I personally admire the time and dedication many of you have put in.

In the event Chris and/or white knights vandalize CWCki, jerkops, in addition to myself, Cogs, and Clyde will be on high alert for the next week or so.

In many ways, we are trolling Chris by not giving into his ego - the problem sometimes with creating villains for Chris is that it feeds into his delusion that he's some sort of hero and that he must defeat his villains to achieve his ultimate prize. In short, preserving the CWCki as it is and maintaining its integrity is our number one priority. Anything else is secondary.

Good night, CWCki, and good luck. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeh, it seems to me the correct response to all this is as little response as possible. Personally, I reckon that anybody expecting some kind of apocalyptic confrontation is going to be sorely disappointed. I mean, practically speaking, what can Chris do? Rage and complain a bit, try to blank a few pages perhaps, maybe put a curse on cogsdev. Not much else. Then the laziness will kick in and he'll go find some other way of making an ass of himself. As for the notion that he might actually learn something from reading the CWCki...well, if there's anything I've learned from reading and contributing to this site, it's that Chris believes what Chris wants to believe. There's not a hell of a lot here that he wants to believe. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 18:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

* I do agree that the CWCki needs to stand up against the vile manchild, because as soon as he sees that the CWCki isn't going anywhere, you know he's going to go on a warpath like he did with his ED page, and the ED website. But on the other hand, actually doing something may spread more fuel on Chris's fire, and that's something no one wants. Chris will think that this is just like the ED page, and this is like an arch rival he has to overcome again. My advice(if anyone is interested), I wouldn't do anything to provoke Chris, and just be polite about it, and not get into trolling him, because that may make things worse, and I agree it would ruin the CWCkipedias reputation, and I respect the CWCki too much to see that happen. But knowing Chris, he will do anything to take down the CWCki, and he's going to do it any way he can, so, at that point we would need the cavalry to come in and do the trolling for the CWCki, and put Chris in his place as always. But overall, I don't think he can do much at all aside from more Jewtube videos and BAWWWWs on his own CWCipedia quotes. Sadly for Chris, the CWCki isn't going anywhere, and for Chris, that may be the biggest insult of all. - Chris Pickles

*Well, its after the deadline, and i'm not seeing any response from Chris. He must be taking his time. I'm going to bed now. Maybe when I come back something intresting would have happened. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 03:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**He said Midnight Eastern Time, it's still 11 Eastern Time. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 03:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**Plus, we don't know how long it will take him to realize that we aren't removing the articles. We can either post the "Chris, we have nothing to do with the loss of the Wallflower" note further down on this page or make [[Bob]], [[Snorlax]], [[Lies]], or [[Homos]] the AOTN so he may be inclined to "assist" in expanding those articles..--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***It's 20 minutes past midnight, eastern time. Once again, Chris failed to keep a promise. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris seems to check in on the internet at least once per day--he did his like forty minutes before the deadline, so we'll probably get our reaction whenever he does his next sweep. Could be that he's gone to bed and will check when he wakes up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Posse commitatus ==

Any able bodied CWCki user who feels they can regularly monitor CWCki for recent changes in the next week or so, please contact me for a special assignment.

Current jerkops, please be on full alert. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be home all day tomorrow and I'll likely be available this weekend. I'll help out as much as I can. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll gladly help. I don't really have anything important to do. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Recently registered but very long time follower of Chris Chan (Back when ED and the sonichu home page was all we had) and lurker around here since the Cwcki's inception. Will also gladly help, I may be unavailable starting tomorrow for 2-3 days but after that I literally have all day every day free for a while. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:*P.S. Contact info is available on my user page. Please contact me privately, guys, if you really want to help.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

: possibly I get out of school early and will gladly help Message me on the details --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Reporting for duty Ma'am.I work from home and online anyway, so I have all day to monitor.-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Response(s) ==

I was told to put this on the Cwcki yesterday. It's a little late

''Dear Chris.
We of the CWCki site have seen your demands and would wish to respond to them.
First off, the CWCki's function is documentation, not trolling. We believe that your own CWCipedia does not fit all the criteria for being a wiki (only two people may edit) but is rather an online autobiography, and a rather one-sided one at that. We have filled this gap by creating an open and comprehensive documentation of you and your work.

Secondly, we of the CWCki pride ourselves in the accuracy of our articles. We strive constantly to attempt to check and double-check our articles for any errors. We have made no attempt to twist facts or lie in any way. If there is anything on our site that you believe is a lie, please let us know what it is.

Third, we never sent any message to your "girl friend", and we did not have any intention to. The person who sent the message is a third party member with no known ties to the CWCki.

Fourthly, since your "girl friend" ran away as quickly as she did, and since we go to great lengths to make our articles as accurate as possible, we are suspicious that you may have deceived her in some way. After all, if you were always telling the truth about yourself, why would she break up when she saw what she already knew?

Finally, we did not force your "girl friend" to leave you, she did that out of her own free will. We do not entirely understand why you are so angry at us for this.
Hoping our further communications will be on more friendly terms,
The CWCki''

:Well, could it hurt to make the Article of the Now into something from the Web of Life template(preferably Snorlax)? I'd like it if we could spit in his face at least a ''little'' bit before this is over.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Made some edits. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 07:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::*It looks fine to me.
::*I love this. Quite the perfect stance the CWCki need to take. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* You should make Bob AOTN - that way Chris will probably make some sort of statement on ihs health.--[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 22:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:**Either Bob or Snorlax would make a nice AOTN, but I'd prefer Snorlax on the off chance Chris tries to edit her page. He seems to have forgotten that we know what she looks like.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* All right, now that we seem to have the message settled, how are we going to give it to Chris? Do we place it somewhere on the CWCki? Do we email Chris? Or are we gonna do something else?[[User:Kraken|Kraken]]
:** We can put it right below the featured quote, he'll probably notice it there. Changing the featured article to Megan or SheCameForCWC.jpg is also an option.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 20:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

*Not to be a dick guys but c'mon, giving a formal message like this is contrary to the stance we're going to take. Giving Chris a response is feeding into his ego, even if it's a simple message. In any case, I have taken into your considerations for the Article of the Now, but personally, I was thinking [[Patti Chandler]] and with the most offensive fan art (one of the one where she's raping Chris or something like that) as the article of the now. Failing that, then maybe Snorlax. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Thinking about it some more, I was a bit hard headed. Tell you what - if Chris pushes the CWCki thing so much, we'll make a video of this in addition to the quote of the now. That's if Chris responds, mind you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Demands ==
Well, I think it's clear that he didn't even click on some of the articles--half of them are stubs to begin with. Also, he's extended his deadline and doesn't get why Heather had her article removed. Also the Hambeast has a name now. Who wants to take action?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 07:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* As usual, Chris puts absolutely no thought into his threats or demands, and has no intelligence to begin with anyways. There's nothing he can do to the cwcki, once again, Chris is fighting against something that he just has no power over, and it's completely beyond his control. My advice, I think we do need to fire back at Chris with something, just to show that the CWCki isn't going anywhere. I think we need to add some stuff to the articles he's complaining about, and improve them, maybe add some more details and maybe even revise some of the pages completely. I think that would stick in Chris's side pretty good. It's not what I would consider "Trolling", but just to show Chris that the CWCki is boss, and we do not have to do anything he says just because he doesn't like it. I would hold off on any kind of video response or direct action from the CWCkipedia, I think silence will kill Chris more. --[[user:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 05:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

*I disagree. While the theory is that giving him a response would just feed his ego, I think the discovery that the trolls made an entire wiki all about him was already enough to do that. I say we respond. I think we should use the letter to Chris seen above on the featured quote page as a way of telling him to fuck off. While we're at it, go about improving those articles as you said, and as was sugested, make Megan, or another 'Gal-Pal' the article of the now. If need be, we make the video too and put it with the featured quote. If he keeps quiet then we'll spare him the video and just leave him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 13:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

** You know Edward, I changed my mind, I agree with you 100%. I do think we should come up with a formal address to Chris himself via the front page of the cwcki. Something special for both Chris, and avid readers of the cwcki. Something sophisticated and swarmy I think. Insulting him would be pointless, but I think if we made a direct, formal address that doesn't pull any BS, and just gets right to the point, that would be awesome. At some point, the CWCki has to make its stand against Chris(because we only have till the 31st until chris UNVEILS HIS WRATH ARRGH!), and make it aware to people that no one is backing down. I just don't know what that address should be though, I guess it's something left up to the sysop to decide on, but it should be something that's well constructed, and just pisses Chris off as well. I mean, the guy just made a video admitting he's so desperate he would pay for hookers and begging for a girlfriend. So, there's no real reason to hold back, but I say represent the best of the cwcki. --[[Chris_Pickles]] 03:11, 15th March 2010 (UTC)
*** I think we ought to make it obvious to Chris why the pages have just been protected--you just know that his ego is going to twist that in his favor.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

* I'd go with Snorlax for maximum damage--he put a lot of emphasis on ALL OF MY RELATIVES and Bob/Barbara have the largest articles. He's freaking out about this because he's afraid that his parents are going to find out that we know about them(He didn't think we knew what they looked like). Snorlax especially, since she's adamant about staying off the internet. For bonus points make "SnorlaxCameForCWC" the image of the now.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** SheCameForCWC.jpg is also another option. Imagine what happens when Chris discovers that the hated image has it's own article. Also, I know someone has Rule 34 of Jivin, so we could make that the IOTN. Failing that we can use the rule 34 Isabel made of Magi-chan and the "Redesigned" Asperchu!Magi-chan.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** Thats not two Magi-Chans. That image is of Magi-Chan and Swift, the exact Magi-Chan duplicate that Chris created while attempting to retcon Asperchu. The image is actually called 'Hecameforswift.png.' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* Why don't we just pretend to follow up with Chris's demands again? Even though it has been done before, I think it could be interesting to see what his reaction would be if we took the stuff out for a day or two. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 07:22, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*And having Chris switch into "Smug Mode" for a while? No way. Besides, he's creating the most Lulz when his whims are denied. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 12:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*NEVER COMPROMISE, EVEN IN THE FACE OF ARMAGEDDON.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**No. We do not negotiate with terrorists. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's nowhere near as funny unless he's screaming or breaking the camera. I'm still hoping for a video where he's both naked and screaming.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** Nah, giving into his demands, even as a joke, would just feed his enormous ego more, and we'd obviously see a video of Chris touting a "win" over CWCki. Standing against the manchild and essentially giving him a big "Fuck You" would be a lot more satisfying (And it might deflate Chris's ego slightly.....Well, we can dream) than a quick switcheroo. --[[User:Torvalr|Torvalr]] 10:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page protections ==

In light of Chris's demands, I have opted to protect all of the pages he listed on CWCipedia. Reasons are twofold:
# to prevent Chris from editing them once he realizes that he can, you know, just get an account the pages.
# to prevent white knights, faggots, and other assorted idiots from complying with Chris's demands.

Whatever may come of this, CWCki will not comply with Chris's demands, as doing so would be a violation of the principles CWCki and wikis in general stand for.

I apologize for the page protections, but I feel this is a reasonable precautionary measure that may ease up the workload of our jerkops and admins who are already on high alert. If you feel you have information that must ABSOLUTELY go in the article, post it on the article talk page and an admin will determine whether to sort of it out.

Protections will last until 01 April, and depending on Chris's responses may be extended slightly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== 500 internal server error ==

500 internal server error is completely fucking me up, there are moments that I can hardly edit pages because of it. I'm sorry if we allready have discussion on it, but we need more. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 19:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that those errors are annoying the shit out of me. In fact, I got one just now when I was trying to edit this page. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* Thirded-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I know. This shit is annoying. Possibly the most annoying thing i've come across on the internet. And I've seen the 'Who broke the copier copier copier copier' ad. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Guys, just refresh or whatever. This is nothing compared to how shit used to be when we were on 110mb. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::*fixed? maybe [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*It's better than it was yesterday. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
* I have learned to love those errors. It will slow down vandals and even Chris if they show up to mess with the CWCki. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== TV Tropes page? ==

Should we have a page on the various TV Tropes pages of Sonichu, and the fact that Chris is a ''god'' in the Trope Pantheon ([http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces under Disgraces, the God of Bile Fascination, to be exact])? He's fourth from the bottom on that page, but for the sake of simplicity I'll list his "god" info here, as exact as I can make it:

<blockquote>
'''[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Christian Weston Chandler], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination God of Bile Fascination]''' (CWC, Chris-Chan Sonichu, Ian Brandon Anderson)
* Quasideity [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SmallNameBigEgo that thinks he's an Overdeity]
* Symbol: His [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Sonichu] Medallion
* Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
* Portfolio: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoBadItsHorrible Comics that are unreadable] [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination but that you can't stop coming back to], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished Using narrative to prove his righteousness]
* Domains: Animal, Envy, Hatred, Lust, Pestilence, Sloth
* Rival with [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces David Gonterman] for all his portfolios.
* Other enemies: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheImageboardThatMustNotBeNamed "4-Cent Garbage"], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Technology Sonic The Hedgehog], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Beast Pikachu], Anyone in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Justice Justice] for being Jerkops.
* Chris-Chan used to spend his days lurking in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Love Love] but was banned. Ever since then he has sworn revenge by [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished drawing them getting beaten up by him]
* Position: None. Apparently the other Disgraces keep him around so they can look good in comparison.
* Chance of Redemption: Slim to none.
</blockquote>

Who knows, maybe this "amazing honor" can be used in the "Did You Know..." section if a fake Chris-appeasing main page is used once the deadline passes? Just an idea. --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 22:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

:Please don't. TvTropes doesn't have an easy revert function, so when he shows up to try editing it will be a pain in the ass to clean up. --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 00:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

*We already have a link to the TV Tropes page in the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic]] article, I think that's good. People interested in these tropes can refer to TV Tropes article for that purpose. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== Essay on CWCki ==

Someone wrote a [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/26862.html pretty decent] essay on CWCki for a totally legit college class and posted it on [[Krapple|/cwc]]. Check it out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* That person is made of win. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* The gentleman deserves all the proper honors we can award him for this paper.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== So Chris thinks I'm Tito ==

if you like reading fake info, check the history --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

*(Removing my comment so I look less like a moron. Mostly just skimmed it because of WALL OF TEXT.) -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 09:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

*yeah, okay [[User:Batty|Batty]]. you didn't even try to make this look real. get the fuck out. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

**just seemed to be copy/pasted from the transcribed videos, most likely just attention whoring. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 09:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Community Portal

2010-03-18T09:09:12Z

Borednewb:

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

Please consult the archives to make sure your concern hasn't already been posted before:

[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 4]]

== So Chris has discovered the CWCki (finally) ==

As you can guess, he'll have to pry those pages from my COLD, DEAD HANDS before I consider deleting them. It's not surprising that Chris is targeting those particular pages, though maybe he's being pragmatic in that he knows he won't get the entire thing taken down.

<strike>Expect a video statement from me defending the CWCki and our refusal to comply</strike>. Much is at stake here, people, we shall not submit to Chris. CWCki policy refuses to censor itself (the only exception when there is a clear threat of direct harm as a result of something on the CWCki) and we shall not cave in to Chris's demands.

This is our hour, guys. Chris has discovered the fruits of our labor and we shall not go down without a fight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We will not vanish without a fight! We are going to live on! We are going to survive! Today, we celebrate our CWCkindependance Day! --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*On second thought, I changed my mind about a video. As per [[CWCki:NOTED|"CWCki is not ED"]], we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him. While a CWCki saga would be interesting, I'd rather risk possible "lulz" than CWCki's reputation as a (mostly) reliable and open source of Chris related information. In other words, let's not feed into Chris's ego at the moment by not responding in the positive or affirmative to his threat. If he does respond in some way, well, we're take it from there.
:If one thing comes out of this, I really want to hear what Chris's opinion of the CWCki is. I wonder how far he's looked into the articles and I'm guessing if he's only seen the articles of people personally connected to him, he hasn't delved far. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, I totally know how this will all go down. He's going to send some complaints, which won't work. Then he will register one or more accounts on this wiki and start editing, but of course with his edits we can all determine who he will be. Finally, he will include this website in a future installment of Sonichu, probably using a retarded plot like the survivors of the 4-Cent Garbage building assault have formed a remnant organization called CWCki to use as a hideout, and he and all the mary-sues will come destroy the trolls once and for all. Chris will give himself new powers, Heather Dalley (or the Wallflower) will be gruesomely killed off and mourned for exactly ONE panel, CWCki will fall and Chris will have certain users horribly executed and claim moral victory for himself. After all this, nothing will have changed. --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 09:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Chris already ramble previously about how trolls are good because most of the trolls are just documenting his life and acting like the paparazzi or something? Oh, wait, we hit the limit of his attention span. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We need to find that exact quote, because at exactly midnight on 12 March 2010, that's gonna be the featured quote :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's in [[C.W.C._-_Thank_You_:)]]. Here's a go at it with the relevant portion, let me know what you think: --[[User:Executor32|Executor32]] 14:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|It is good to have my own [[Trolls|trolls]]. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, [[Honest_Content|honest]] information from one, and they may later [[Chris_and_hypocrisy|twist the truth]] for their evil purposes. Just like the paparazzi. And, yet, they still, document the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the [[Ian_Brandon_Anderson|impostors]] from the [[Sammy|real]], [[Asperchu|true]], [[CChanSonichuCWC|honest individual]]. |[[Chris]], on what we do here, 03 [[August 2009]].}}

I was thinking about fucking with him. Delete those pages a few seconds before the deadline and put them back up shortly after midnight. He already hates us, so why not goad him on by exploiting loopholes? Until he comic murders us, we're his main villains. P.S. I'm glad that we were the direct cause of Chris' misfortune and pain. I love seeing him hurt. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*What about "Booby-Trapping" pages? We could link the edit buttons of the said pages to hard-core gay porn. This should do the trick. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**If we do that, which might be a good idea to deter Chris from making edits, we'd need to have a legitimate (i.e. non gay porn) way to edit the pages, in case something needs to be added or changed on those pages. Maybe have a fake advert on the side that will link to the edit page instead. But something that wouldn't interest Chris, so he won't click on it. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 15:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris used paper strips to hide a side of his computer monitor when he uploads on his shitty site CWCipedia so he won't see the porn. I have a better idea; what about a "Pop-Up" window covering the edit page of all the articles? You want to edit? You must close the Phalus-Enhanced window that had just popped on your screen. That would be quite a deterrent for Chris and a minor hassle for us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****And for those of us with a pop-up blocker, it won't be a problem at all. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****I support this. Having gay porn come up every time he tries edit warring would end this quickly. We can expect the CWCipedia forces surender within less than a week of the ads coming up. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*****CWCki is not here for trolling him. Except with the truth. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|As per "CWCki is not ED", we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him.|[[Cogsdev]], just a few paragraphs ago.}}
::::*I'm with cogs all the way on this one. We don't need to shit all over the CWCki in an attempt to piss Chris off. We exist. That's all we need to do.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Actually, I said that but Cogs would be flattered in either case :3. TK said it better than I ever could. For that reason, we shouldn't try to turn CWCki into a trolling weapon. Doing so would turn the CWCki into something it isn't, at least as I see it. Something might go down but the CWCki itself won't be involved, just the persons involved, per say. If CWCki is going to be involved, it will be what we've always done and as TK put, have always done - troll Chris with the truth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You misunderstand. I support the gay porn links for use as a defense mechanism against Chris fucking with the pages. You know he will try with at least a few pages, and even if we don't go with that idea of gay porn links, I think we should do something to stop him fucking shit up. It shouldn't be harder to handle then any of the regular vandals here, but it'd be a good if we could somehow stop it happening in the first place. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Remember his edits to the ED page. He didn't do much except blank it a couple of times, and the CWCki is way too huge for him to significantly damage. He might even give us some gems, remember [[shecameforcwc.jpg]]? We might get something nice like that.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Any edits Chris attempts to make will be A) Pathetic B) Funny or C) Informative. Also, Chris never attempted to alter the Asperpedia to my knowledge, even though you don't need an account to do so. Either way, I don't think we need to take any precautionary steps. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Dont cave in to the basterds wills we shall stand as one--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 22:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* As much as I would have loved stashing defensive porn everywhere, an "Open Door" policy will bring much more material to us. T K is right; looks like our "muse" will delivers us fresh material at our doorsteps this Friday. We better act nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Just leave him to it, document his edits and then revert them. Whatever ensues will be hilarious. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 23:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::** For added hilarity, may I suggest changing the article of the now to the [[Homos]] article? This may provoke Chris into making another attempt to "Sort out fact from fiction" at the best and make him rage at the least.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**Worth a shot. I know its a gamble, but if theres anything we know about Chris, its that he hates da homos, and especially hates being called one. It'd probably get us quite a lot of information. We thought we pretty much had Chris and his ideas of reality all summed up, and then we discover he honestly believes cartoons are real. I remember thinking, 'How the fuck did we not know that by now?' So who knows? Maybe we could get something fresh out of his stance on homos yet. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**He went back and forth constantly during the Asperpedia saga, what with curing them and blowing them up and appoligizing the very day afterwards. I doubt we'll get anything more interesting than him blanking the Homos article and leaving the line "I am STRAIGHT YOU GODDAMN HOMO TROLLS!" on that front. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 01:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**You never know with Chris. Failing that, what about the article on [[Snorlax]]? We could always use more information on her. Or he'll just blank it and replace it with "LEAVE MY MOTHER ALONE" and then we'll put the rule 34 the drunk drawfag made of him and Snorlax on his userpage. It's a good day when the best case scenario is "Chris tells us more information" and the worst case scenario is "Chris becomes angry".--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

===Clarification===
Based on a post someone made on Krapple, I think I might need to clarify what I was saying.

There's two basic approaches to how we can react to Chris:
# we fight him
# we ignore him

Any plan more or less boils down to one of these two, as I see it. Let's say we decide to turn this into a struggle - then we're going to self consciously self censor ourselves, which is something I refuse to do (save for someone's personal well being is at stake, see [[Wallflower]]). In fact, I'm not a fan of some of the edits people have made before. I personally doubt that Chris will suddenly take credence of things said on the CWCki when they've been said before on ED, on the ED forum he supposedly reads, the numerous calls, e-mails, letters, etc. from white knights trying to tell him information, etc. It's implied in pretty much all the sweetheart articles that Chris's sweethearts are all trolls. Yet Chris ''still'' believes that these were all TRUE and HONEST women who were attracted to him and suddenly died for various reasons. Aside from documenting Chris, CWCki serves to dispel misconceptions about him and the trolls that surround him so we don't have faggots spouting the same memes over and over.

Okay, so we really don't need to self censor - there really doesn't seem to be anything indicative that Chris will take what we say with any more creedence than say, ED or any faggot who gets through to him. Chris bringing attention to CWCki makes us a very valuable target for white knights. No, not faggots who genuinely want to defend Chris, I'm talking about faggots who want to gain Chris's trust and will assume that Chris will see their CWCki edits and reward them handsomely so they can get their 15 minutes of e-fame. Vandals get shot down usually fast here on CWCki but it's a bit of a bitch still.

There's a reason why people trust CWCki over ED and other sources about Chris. It's not because we look legit or anything like that. It's because we have ways of doing things. Edits are not whims. I heard some EDiot make fun of us because we use "citation needed" because we're that serious. If you're going to make an outrageous claim about Chris or claim he said something, you better be prepared to say where and when. CWCki is serious business. Probably part of the reason is because we're mostly independent of trolling - this isn't PVCC where if you piss someone off, you're banned. We're not Krapple either. CWCki is generally free to do its own thing. People are allowed to express themselves freely.

So what does this mean? It means that CWCki should stay CWCki, not an elaborate trolling pawn. It is far better that we ignore Chris or at most stand our ground and remain a valuable, less biased, accurate source of information about Chris than to devote our time and energy into making the CWCki into an elaborate way of trolling Chris. I'd rather not see people censor themselves and go to great lengths just to troll Chris with CWCki when such efforts could be used more constructively.

Let's see how Chris responds. If he puts up a fight, then we might do something. If not, then we can carry on as business as usual. In fact, we should be trying for business as usual. March Mumble Madness is still on, and plenty of the [[:Category:Mumble chats|Mumble chats]] still need to be transcribed. Don't worry about Chris discovering shit, just focus on the stuff you'd do any day. You CWCki admins are what ultimately make the CWCki so great, and I personally admire the time and dedication many of you have put in.

In the event Chris and/or white knights vandalize CWCki, jerkops, in addition to myself, Cogs, and Clyde will be on high alert for the next week or so.

In many ways, we are trolling Chris by not giving into his ego - the problem sometimes with creating villains for Chris is that it feeds into his delusion that he's some sort of hero and that he must defeat his villains to achieve his ultimate prize. In short, preserving the CWCki as it is and maintaining its integrity is our number one priority. Anything else is secondary.

Good night, CWCki, and good luck. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeh, it seems to me the correct response to all this is as little response as possible. Personally, I reckon that anybody expecting some kind of apocalyptic confrontation is going to be sorely disappointed. I mean, practically speaking, what can Chris do? Rage and complain a bit, try to blank a few pages perhaps, maybe put a curse on cogsdev. Not much else. Then the laziness will kick in and he'll go find some other way of making an ass of himself. As for the notion that he might actually learn something from reading the CWCki...well, if there's anything I've learned from reading and contributing to this site, it's that Chris believes what Chris wants to believe. There's not a hell of a lot here that he wants to believe. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 18:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

* I do agree that the CWCki needs to stand up against the vile manchild, because as soon as he sees that the CWCki isn't going anywhere, you know he's going to go on a warpath like he did with his ED page, and the ED website. But on the other hand, actually doing something may spread more fuel on Chris's fire, and that's something no one wants. Chris will think that this is just like the ED page, and this is like an arch rival he has to overcome again. My advice(if anyone is interested), I wouldn't do anything to provoke Chris, and just be polite about it, and not get into trolling him, because that may make things worse, and I agree it would ruin the CWCkipedias reputation, and I respect the CWCki too much to see that happen. But knowing Chris, he will do anything to take down the CWCki, and he's going to do it any way he can, so, at that point we would need the cavalry to come in and do the trolling for the CWCki, and put Chris in his place as always. But overall, I don't think he can do much at all aside from more Jewtube videos and BAWWWWs on his own CWCipedia quotes. Sadly for Chris, the CWCki isn't going anywhere, and for Chris, that may be the biggest insult of all. - Chris Pickles

*Well, its after the deadline, and i'm not seeing any response from Chris. He must be taking his time. I'm going to bed now. Maybe when I come back something intresting would have happened. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 03:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**He said Midnight Eastern Time, it's still 11 Eastern Time. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 03:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**Plus, we don't know how long it will take him to realize that we aren't removing the articles. We can either post the "Chris, we have nothing to do with the loss of the Wallflower" note further down on this page or make [[Bob]], [[Snorlax]], [[Lies]], or [[Homos]] the AOTN so he may be inclined to "assist" in expanding those articles..--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***It's 20 minutes past midnight, eastern time. Once again, Chris failed to keep a promise. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris seems to check in on the internet at least once per day--he did his like forty minutes before the deadline, so we'll probably get our reaction whenever he does his next sweep. Could be that he's gone to bed and will check when he wakes up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Posse commitatus ==

Any able bodied CWCki user who feels they can regularly monitor CWCki for recent changes in the next week or so, please contact me for a special assignment.

Current jerkops, please be on full alert. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be home all day tomorrow and I'll likely be available this weekend. I'll help out as much as I can. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll gladly help. I don't really have anything important to do. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Recently registered but very long time follower of Chris Chan (Back when ED and the sonichu home page was all we had) and lurker around here since the Cwcki's inception. Will also gladly help, I may be unavailable starting tomorrow for 2-3 days but after that I literally have all day every day free for a while. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:*P.S. Contact info is available on my user page. Please contact me privately, guys, if you really want to help.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

: possibly I get out of school early and will gladly help Message me on the details --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Reporting for duty Ma'am.I work from home and online anyway, so I have all day to monitor.-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Response(s) ==

I was told to put this on the Cwcki yesterday. It's a little late

''Dear Chris.
We of the CWCki site have seen your demands and would wish to respond to them.
First off, the CWCki's function is documentation, not trolling. We believe that your own CWCipedia does not fit all the criteria for being a wiki (only two people may edit) but is rather an online autobiography, and a rather one-sided one at that. We have filled this gap by creating an open and comprehensive documentation of you and your work.

Secondly, we of the CWCki pride ourselves in the accuracy of our articles. We strive constantly to attempt to check and double-check our articles for any errors. We have made no attempt to twist facts or lie in any way. If there is anything on our site that you believe is a lie, please let us know what it is.

Third, we never sent any message to your "girl friend", and we did not have any intention to. The person who sent the message is a third party member with no known ties to the CWCki.

Fourthly, since your "girl friend" ran away as quickly as she did, and since we go to great lengths to make our articles as accurate as possible, we are suspicious that you may have deceived her in some way. After all, if you were always telling the truth about yourself, why would she break up when she saw what she already knew?

Finally, we did not force your "girl friend" to leave you, she did that out of her own free will. We do not entirely understand why you are so angry at us for this.
Hoping our further communications will be on more friendly terms,
The CWCki''

:Well, could it hurt to make the Article of the Now into something from the Web of Life template(preferably Snorlax)? I'd like it if we could spit in his face at least a ''little'' bit before this is over.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Made some edits. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 07:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::*It looks fine to me.
::*I love this. Quite the perfect stance the CWCki need to take. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* You should make Bob AOTN - that way Chris will probably make some sort of statement on ihs health.--[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 22:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:**Either Bob or Snorlax would make a nice AOTN, but I'd prefer Snorlax on the off chance Chris tries to edit her page. He seems to have forgotten that we know what she looks like.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* All right, now that we seem to have the message settled, how are we going to give it to Chris? Do we place it somewhere on the CWCki? Do we email Chris? Or are we gonna do something else?[[User:Kraken|Kraken]]
:** We can put it right below the featured quote, he'll probably notice it there. Changing the featured article to Megan or SheCameForCWC.jpg is also an option.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 20:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

*Not to be a dick guys but c'mon, giving a formal message like this is contrary to the stance we're going to take. Giving Chris a response is feeding into his ego, even if it's a simple message. In any case, I have taken into your considerations for the Article of the Now, but personally, I was thinking [[Patti Chandler]] and with the most offensive fan art (one of the one where she's raping Chris or something like that) as the article of the now. Failing that, then maybe Snorlax. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Thinking about it some more, I was a bit hard headed. Tell you what - if Chris pushes the CWCki thing so much, we'll make a video of this in addition to the quote of the now. That's if Chris responds, mind you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Demands ==
Well, I think it's clear that he didn't even click on some of the articles--half of them are stubs to begin with. Also, he's extended his deadline and doesn't get why Heather had her article removed. Also the Hambeast has a name now. Who wants to take action?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 07:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* As usual, Chris puts absolutely no thought into his threats or demands, and has no intelligence to begin with anyways. There's nothing he can do to the cwcki, once again, Chris is fighting against something that he just has no power over, and it's completely beyond his control. My advice, I think we do need to fire back at Chris with something, just to show that the CWCki isn't going anywhere. I think we need to add some stuff to the articles he's complaining about, and improve them, maybe add some more details and maybe even revise some of the pages completely. I think that would stick in Chris's side pretty good. It's not what I would consider "Trolling", but just to show Chris that the CWCki is boss, and we do not have to do anything he says just because he doesn't like it. I would hold off on any kind of video response or direct action from the CWCkipedia, I think silence will kill Chris more. --[[user:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 05:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

*I disagree. While the theory is that giving him a response would just feed his ego, I think the discovery that the trolls made an entire wiki all about him was already enough to do that. I say we respond. I think we should use the letter to Chris seen above on the featured quote page as a way of telling him to fuck off. While we're at it, go about improving those articles as you said, and as was sugested, make Megan, or another 'Gal-Pal' the article of the now. If need be, we make the video too and put it with the featured quote. If he keeps quiet then we'll spare him the video and just leave him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 13:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

** You know Edward, I changed my mind, I agree with you 100%. I do think we should come up with a formal address to Chris himself via the front page of the cwcki. Something special for both Chris, and avid readers of the cwcki. Something sophisticated and swarmy I think. Insulting him would be pointless, but I think if we made a direct, formal address that doesn't pull any BS, and just gets right to the point, that would be awesome. At some point, the CWCki has to make its stand against Chris(because we only have till the 31st until chris UNVEILS HIS WRATH ARRGH!), and make it aware to people that no one is backing down. I just don't know what that address should be though, I guess it's something left up to the sysop to decide on, but it should be something that's well constructed, and just pisses Chris off as well. I mean, the guy just made a video admitting he's so desperate he would pay for hookers and begging for a girlfriend. So, there's no real reason to hold back, but I say represent the best of the cwcki. --[[Chris_Pickles]] 03:11, 15th March 2010 (UTC)
*** I think we ought to make it obvious to Chris why the pages have just been protected--you just know that his ego is going to twist that in his favor.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

* I'd go with Snorlax for maximum damage--he put a lot of emphasis on ALL OF MY RELATIVES and Bob/Barbara have the largest articles. He's freaking out about this because he's afraid that his parents are going to find out that we know about them(He didn't think we knew what they looked like). Snorlax especially, since she's adamant about staying off the internet. For bonus points make "SnorlaxCameForCWC" the image of the now.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** SheCameForCWC.jpg is also another option. Imagine what happens when Chris discovers that the hated image has it's own article. Also, I know someone has Rule 34 of Jivin, so we could make that the IOTN. Failing that we can use the rule 34 Isabel made of Magi-chan and the "Redesigned" Asperchu!Magi-chan.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** Thats not two Magi-Chans. That image is of Magi-Chan and Swift, the exact Magi-Chan duplicate that Chris created while attempting to retcon Asperchu. The image is actually called 'Hecameforswift.png.' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* Why don't we just pretend to follow up with Chris's demands again? Even though it has been done before, I think it could be interesting to see what his reaction would be if we took the stuff out for a day or two. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 07:22, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*And having Chris switch into "Smug Mode" for a while? No way. Besides, he's creating the most Lulz when his whims are denied. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 12:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*NEVER COMPROMISE, EVEN IN THE FACE OF ARMAGEDDON.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**No. We do not negotiate with terrorists. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's nowhere near as funny unless he's screaming or breaking the camera. I'm still hoping for a video where he's both naked and screaming.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** Nah, giving into his demands, even as a joke, would just feed his enormous ego more, and we'd obviously see a video of Chris touting a "win" over CWCki. Standing against the manchild and essentially giving him a big "Fuck You" would be a lot more satisfying (And it might deflate Chris's ego slightly.....Well, we can dream) than a quick switcheroo. --[[User:Torvalr|Torvalr]] 10:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page protections ==

In light of Chris's demands, I have opted to protect all of the pages he listed on CWCipedia. Reasons are twofold:
# to prevent Chris from editing them once he realizes that he can, you know, just get an account the pages.
# to prevent white knights, faggots, and other assorted idiots from complying with Chris's demands.

Whatever may come of this, CWCki will not comply with Chris's demands, as doing so would be a violation of the principles CWCki and wikis in general stand for.

I apologize for the page protections, but I feel this is a reasonable precautionary measure that may ease up the workload of our jerkops and admins who are already on high alert. If you feel you have information that must ABSOLUTELY go in the article, post it on the article talk page and an admin will determine whether to sort of it out.

Protections will last until 01 April, and depending on Chris's responses may be extended slightly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== 500 internal server error ==

500 internal server error is completely fucking me up, there are moments that I can hardly edit pages because of it. I'm sorry if we allready have discussion on it, but we need more. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 19:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that those errors are annoying the shit out of me. In fact, I got one just now when I was trying to edit this page. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* Thirded-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I know. This shit is annoying. Possibly the most annoying thing i've come across on the internet. And I've seen the 'Who broke the copier copier copier copier' ad. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Guys, just refresh or whatever. This is nothing compared to how shit used to be when we were on 110mb. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::*fixed? maybe [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*It's better than it was yesterday. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
* I have learned to love those errors. It will slow down vandals and even Chris if they show up to mess with the CWCki. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== TV Tropes page? ==

Should we have a page on the various TV Tropes pages of Sonichu, and the fact that Chris is a ''god'' in the Trope Pantheon ([http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces under Disgraces, the God of Bile Fascination, to be exact])? He's fourth from the bottom on that page, but for the sake of simplicity I'll list his "god" info here, as exact as I can make it:

<blockquote>
'''[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Christian Weston Chandler], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination God of Bile Fascination]''' (CWC, Chris-Chan Sonichu, Ian Brandon Anderson)
* Quasideity [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SmallNameBigEgo that thinks he's an Overdeity]
* Symbol: His [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Sonichu] Medallion
* Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
* Portfolio: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoBadItsHorrible Comics that are unreadable] [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination but that you can't stop coming back to], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished Using narrative to prove his righteousness]
* Domains: Animal, Envy, Hatred, Lust, Pestilence, Sloth
* Rival with [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces David Gonterman] for all his portfolios.
* Other enemies: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheImageboardThatMustNotBeNamed "4-Cent Garbage"], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Technology Sonic The Hedgehog], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Beast Pikachu], Anyone in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Justice Justice] for being Jerkops.
* Chris-Chan used to spend his days lurking in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Love Love] but was banned. Ever since then he has sworn revenge by [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished drawing them getting beaten up by him]
* Position: None. Apparently the other Disgraces keep him around so they can look good in comparison.
* Chance of Redemption: Slim to none.
</blockquote>

Who knows, maybe this "amazing honor" can be used in the "Did You Know..." section if a fake Chris-appeasing main page is used once the deadline passes? Just an idea. --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 22:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

:Please don't. TvTropes doesn't have an easy revert function, so when he shows up to try editing it will be a pain in the ass to clean up. --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 00:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

*We already have a link to the TV Tropes page in the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic]] article, I think that's good. People interested in these tropes can refer to TV Tropes article for that purpose. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== Essay on CWCki ==

Someone wrote a [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/26862.html pretty decent] essay on CWCki for a totally legit college class and posted it on [[Krapple|/cwc]]. Check it out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* That person is made of win. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* The gentleman deserves all the proper honors we can award him for this paper.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== So Chris thinks I'm Tito ==

Hey folks, anyway while I may not be the guy that hacked Chris's PSN (HexBawx user) I am the guy that is currently dating the wallflower, and ever since then I've been shooting emails back and forth with the manchild, as always he's been doing his best to make a fool of himself and doing a positively grand job. Not wanting to be a namefag and start my own article for something that may not be article worthy I decided to drop the emails here for everyone to read and enjoy, please feel free to crucify/burn me alive if I placed this in the wrong area.

Now before I post these I figure I'll set the scene for you all, I met the wallflower through Facebook and found that she was actually a pretty nice person, a bit eccentric but in a good way, So long story short me and her hit it off and now we're a little couple. Of course this pissed off the manchild to no end because he viewed her as his next chance to get his beloved china. Now I won't lie, I haven't been very nice to Chris during these emails,. but predictably the little retard didn't exactly extend the hand of friendship either, and with my being both bisexual and an Aspie I have a special reason to hate him.

Now without further ado, I present for your enjoyment my ongoing saga with the manchild

These first few emails weren't sent directly to me but rather to the wallflower and then to me and being her current boyfriend I felt myself duty bound to at least attempt to step in and set Chris straight. It didn't work.

How it started:

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "chrischansonichu@aol.com" <chrischansonichu@aol.com>
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 1:19:06 AM
Subject: Hey.

I pray you are feeling better from the recent chaos; I still have
lingering heartaches from the "I hate you" and such from that message.

I know it's not much, but apparently your e-mail account remained safe.
I am looking into it further, but I do know it was this Tito
dude/troll who found you out, and likely was the one who started that
page on the CWCki (it's wikipedia style; anyone can create a page on
that damn website). Tito was the one who sent me the e-mail that early
morning. I found it after hand-writing and enveloping the letter you
may have received Saturday, or will receive in a day or two; that
letter was before that matter. And Tito was also the same dude who
left you a review leading you to that CWCki page on your fanfaction.net
page; he has admitted it in an e-mail he sent me recently. I will be
forwarding the two mentioned messages to you shortly.

If you ever come into contact with Tito, or meet him in real life, Do Not Trust Him. I still care for you and your safety and health. Please let me know over the phone or e-mail when you've recovered and we can move forward from this. I do not want to lose our friendship between you and me. (and "Hate" is such a strong word)

Stay Safe. Love and Peace,
Christian.

My Response:

to chrischansonichu@aol.com
date Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:29 AM
subject Yo Chris, Heather is taken
mailed-by gmail.com

Yo Chris, I met Heather shortly after your thing with her man, you're pretty fucked up. I'm sorry for all the troll stuff that's happened to you, Clyde and all that. Jack, Evan, but you gotta relax.

Man, I'm Van, I'd like to help you but I need you to back up off my woman, Heather is a lovely girl man, but she's mine.

Chris, you got to realize all you've ever gotten done bad to you, it's all because you feed into them, you get mad. You give them that RESOINSE,

Chris, I'm an agnostic, I'm also a bisexual, and I have Aspergers. I know I'm pretty much your enemy but you have to listen. If you want to ever get laid you need to drop some weight and try to take better care of yourself man.

Also Sonichu is never going to work. You need to start over. Sonichu is not a parody, it's a ripoff. It's the equivalent of you sucking Satoshi Tajiri, Naoto Ōshima, Hirokazu Yasuhara, and Yuji Naka's penises. If you EVER EVER EVER tried to get SHIT off of this series of yours you'd be sued to oblivion, and since you're HFA and probably not responsible for yourself your PARENTS (You know Bob and Barb?) would get sued, you would have no house, and your family,

Your family Chris, the only people that EVER cared. Would hate you.

Anyway.

I just want to say one last time. Heather is taken. I'm sorry if you had feelings for her, but she's mine. In august I'm going to come to VA and her and me are going to start our love life.

Maybe have a daughter.

-Van Sabbith

Alright in retrospect I did more than my fair share of insulting in this email, but I at least attempted to help him. Being a man with an incredible amount of free time I was expecting his response to be faster than it was.

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "chrischansonichu@aol.com" <chrischansonichu@aol.com>
Sent: Sun, Marmailed-by gmail.comch 14, 2010 3:58:01 AM
Subject: Re: I'VE THOUGHT I EXPLAINED IT LITTLE CUZ (YES)

Don't you GET IT, TITO, the guy you're seeing now, CREATED THAT PAGE on the CWCki, AND he had the balls to let you know in a "Review".

I have been heartaching over this the past days, and I've had sleepless nights over it. For the love of God and Jesus, don't leave me, Please!

Also, I was going to surprise you on St. Patrick's Day, but I feel it appropriate for the sake of protecting you, that I put on my Kilt in your honor against this Hawaiian Troll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taiBe4ct_So

While I may have seen Rocket Power in my youth I was already getting more than a bit tired of this manchild thinking I was a fat Hawaiian.

from Sabastian Whipple <van.sabbith@gmail.com>
to chrischansonichu@aol.com
date Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM
subject My name, is Sab. Not TITO motherfucker.

Yo, Chris, Heather is my woman. Look man, I'm sorry for what surf shack mofo did to to you, but I'm not him. Heather is my woman, I have strong feelings for her based upon you know, EMOTIONS.

Not my desire to stop being a VIRGIN WITH RAGE. Now take your fucking skirt off. I'm Scottish, that shit pisses me off.

The next email from Chris is a bit weird as he seems to have been copied directly off the CWCiki down to the links.

From: Christian Chandler <ibachandler@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 9:11:43 PM
Subject: PLEASE!
HEATHER COME BACK TO ME! :,(

You don't, you don't need that new boyfriend, because... I need you. We were very compatible, we had so much in common! I don't see why you had to go and do that. I mean, you aren't even ready for a boyfriend! You told me so yourself, multiple times! It's better that for a little while. But, you know what? This puts to mind a little something...

Hey hey, you you
I don't like your boyfriend
No way, no way
I think you need a new one
Hey hey, you you
I could be your boyfriend
da na da, da na da
da da da, da da da

In a second you'll be wrapped around my finger
'Cause I can, 'cause I can do it better
There's no other, so when's it gonna sink in?
He's so troll and stupid, what the hell were you thinkin'?
That old sumbitch try to take you out of my life
But you know I could do it better
He's an imposter, he's a poser
What the hells were you thinkin' with that damn pickle suit?

C'mon. Heather. Heather Dalley. Give me a break! You know my, I don't want to be back in a situation where I'm, how desperate I got!

Go as far as to pay a hundred dollars for a damn hooker. Give me a breaaak!! I'm a 28-year-old high-functioning autistic virgin! I'm in a hell of my own! [sigh] C'mon, please? Pleeeeaaaase? I've been so very worried about you, I've had heartaches since last Wednesday. I've had sleepless nights! It really hurts!

Heartaches are hurt. Think about that.

While the links may not work in it's curent state the version in my inbox still has links to various articles here on the CWCiki almost as if Chris was too <s>busy</s> lazy to write it all down himself. So congrats to the people who transcribed his horrible singing so that the manchild didn't need to waste the five seconds it would take to have taken to type it out.

from Sabastian Whipple <van.sabbith@gmail.com>
to ibachandler@yahoo.com
date Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:28 PM
subject Still mine Chris.

Mr. Ian Brandon Anderson, would you kindly leave my woman alone, Heather is mine. Not yours.

You're only making yourself look creepier and creepier.

-Bob Chandler.

Okay I'll admit saying I was his dad was pretty weak, but I was bored and not quite in the mood to deal with an autistic manchild's tard rage so I wanted to see if I could get a rise out of him by doing something simple. If his next email is any indication of his mood it worked.

from Christian Chandler <ibachandler@yahoo.com>
to Sabastian Whipple <van.sabbith@gmail.com>
date Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:39 PM
subject Re: Still mine Chris.

I AM IN LOVE WITH HER! I TOOK PICTURES OF MY DUCK FOR HER!!

Thankfully there must be a God because he didn't attach them. Rather shocked by his admission of having taken pictures of his broken penis for my girlfriend I was more than a bit shocked and just slightly annoyed, but not so much that I couldn't find the will to insult him just a bit more.

from Sabastian Whipple <van.sabbith@gmail.com>
to Christian Chandler <ibachandler@yahoo.com>
date Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:19 PM
subject Re: Still mine Chris.

My god motherfucker, assuming I am talking to the real Chris and not a random troll (By the way, if you are a random troll great job man, you really got your CWC impression down pat)

Chris, you're a 28-year old super virgin. Nobody wants you.

Also. I have an eight inch penis. Haha!

Having read about his fear/dislike of penises over seven inches I couldn't help but mess with him a bit and see if it would draw a reaction.

from Christian Chandler <ibachandler@yahoo.com>
to Sabastian Whipple <van.sabbith@gmail.com>
date Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:33 PM
subject Re: Still mine Chris.

Tito! You stay away from Heather, you son of a bitch. You have no right taking her from me like that, you womanizing rapist! And if you go near her again, then I will find you! I will find you, I will cut you up, I will beat you up, I will knock you on your backside, stand on your gut like a log roller, and roll your fat right through your skull! Blow it wide open!
Because that's what you deserve, you God damn womanizing raping troll and stupidstupid pickle suited Nigger! And don't you ever, don't you dare contact me in my E-mail again, or contact me ever! You stay away from me- you stay away from me and contact. Don't call me, I will find you!

If you're man enough you soon of a bitch you should meet me at
14 Branchland Ct.
Ruckersville, VA 22968

Come on meet me, let me kick your, let me kick your black ass!
434-990-198
Heres my, heres my number if you are too scared that I found out your real name surfshack tito! I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna kill you good.

My my, not only is Chrs threatening my life, but he's also calling me a Nigger, considering I'm not black that doesn't really bother me, but his saying he can kick my ass oes, and considering I'll be in VA within the next few months there's a very good chance of me playing kick the autistic IRL.

This last email is the most current, and my response to Chris's threats:

from Sabastian Whipple <van.sabbith@gmail.com>
to Christian Chandler <ibachandler@yahoo.com>
date Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:48 AM
subject You're a joke.

Oh please Chris you're a 28 year old autistic manchild. You think you can take me? Chris you have to realize this, I'm a kendoka, I'm 18, and I'm probably at least 40 pounds lighter than you! I'm probably in about ten times better shape than you, and most importantly I've had sex with something other than a blow up doll (Remember Kimmi and officer nasty Chris? I do!)

You're probably well over 200 pounds and can't run for more than a minute without damn near dying of a heart attack. Have you seen yourself? All you eat is McDonalds. I don't need to fight you, your lifestyle will kill you for me! Don't you see Chris?! You're the one making your life hell! Not the trolls! By just being yourself you feed the trolls. As long as you are you you'll always have these trolls! Don't you see?! The only answer is to die! You've told Clyde to commit suicide but I think it's time you consider it! Your parents have to own some pills, take them, take all of them. It won't hurt and like that there won't be any more trolls! I'm just trying to help you here!

But look Chris, Seriously if you do want to fight me, I'm going to be coming down to live with Heather and treat her like a woman should be treated. If you do want to do battle I'll see you then.

Also may I add that I have saved all our emails, I have proof of your death threats to me. I can have you arrested Chris, it doesn't matter if you're HFA the police take death threats very seriously, so if you don't want your little maggot ass getting raped by a big black man I suggest you watch your fucking mouth because you may think you have power, but here's the thing Chris, if I were to gather up all the people you threatened and we all went to court against you we could have your ass put away for a very long time. Think about that you little fool.

But if you're so dead set on kicking my ass here's my number shithead, if you don't get me just ask for me. I'll be happy to initiate verbal combat with your bitch ass all day long.

[phone number withheld] Don't forget that part at the beginning Chris, that's the area code, I know you're stupid and all so I wanted to remind you.

Anyway have a nice night.

I couldn't resist my urge to mess with him at this point, but still I tried valiantly like the hero I am to make Chris see the light, even if I tried in the middle of insulting him and telling him to commit suicide. Granted, he probably should.

Anyway that's all the emails so far, but if you all liked it I'll be sure to upload any future emails for your amusement.Sorry for the lack of formatting or other attempts to make it look better.

*Needs a bit of formatting so it's easier to make sense of, but Chris seems to be reacting as expected. Although - and saying this will get me crucified by the Chris trolls - are you sure you want to be sharing this? Even if you're completely comfortable with all these details being out in the open, if Heather finds out you're posting these emails in public she may not be highly impressed. If she doesn't mind, more power to you, keep up the good work. P.S. May want to edit your details out of the emails. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 09:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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