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Talk:Facebook

2011-07-07T02:07:08Z

CFA: /* He's still using Facebook */

==To Do==
*archive the messages on a separate page ([[Facebook messages]] works)
*maybe make a separate page to mirror Chris's Facebook account (to clarify, his Facebook page as it appeared before it was hacked - --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 2 June 2009 (CEST))
*include his notes (maybe a separate page for that too, actually)

As for this page, maybe just outline the extent Chris used Facebook, highlight some of the stuff with it, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:09, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

To put it bluntly; this page needs more words. Some of the messages are very funny when juxtaposed. He would rather go out with a jailbait 17 year old "party girl" (read:slut) than a empathetic single mom. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 23:44, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
* A general commentary for the current themes that pop up in Chris's [[Facebook messages]] and in his Facebook page and notes are more warranted than commentary for each and every individual e-mail.

I know that the Miyamoto Saga e-mails have a commentary of it but most of it is from Clyde (RIP) who provides a commentary on what he was saying as he lost the original sent e-mails from when he was Miyamoto.

But really, I think just a general commentary is needed and that Chris's messages are far more amusing and should speak for themselves. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 June 2009 (CEST)

Whatever you say, hoss. Mind was a little skewed due to rage.

What to do STILL - Go through his statuses. How lonesome is this fuck going to be? evenmore.zip [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:59, 19 September 2010 (PDT)

==Collapsible gallery==

Oh, and can we make the gallery collapsible? I know standard wiki formatting has the gallery at the bottom, but, like you said, they speak for themselves, so a general commentary would be more aesthetically pleasing below it. Gives the reader space to grasp the fucktardedness before adding our POV. Just a suggestion.--[[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:51, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

*A collapsible gallery would be great, but can you make one? God help us that none of us can't edit unless it's basic shit like making templates (read: copy and pasting stuff from Wikipedia templates, lol), editing pages, etc. Seriously, we could use collapsible galleries in a lot of pages but no one has gotten around to it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:50, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

* Oh, damn, I assumed you were a senior wikifag. I'll see what I can do, it can't be too difficult, right? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 03:17, 4 June 2009 (CEST)

* I am a wikifag. See [[Template:Collapsible]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 03:31, 5 June 2009 (CEST)

==Has Chris regained use of this profile, or is it still under troll control?==
I was under the impression he got it back, but it seems not long ago he posted a status that was pretty clearly a troll. I'm mostly an idiot so there's a good chance this was obvious somewhere long ago, but the article doesn't really address what happened to the profile after trolls hijacked it. Is that something that could be included? --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:28, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

== He's still using Facebook ==

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christian-Weston-Chandler/167832525915

Might wanna update that link.

*LOOKS LEGI- Oh wait. NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:53, 27 January 2011 (PST)
Gotta go with Freecell on this one...There is no way in hell this is Chris's facebook...though the going to the bar and bring his DS is something Chris has done before... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:46, 27 January 2011 (PST)

*What about [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000426003596 this one?] --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 18:43, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
# "This is my real facebook. I had to make a new one due to all these trolls HARASSING ME AND HACKING MY ACCOUNT"
# Uses an old picture everyone has
# "Proud too say I'm still a virgin :)" group
# Talking about Skyrim without a computer
Not Chris. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:17, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

*This just appeared on my "you might know this person" sidebar on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 [[User:frozenblwf|Frozenblwf]]

*That one seems pretty legit, Frozenblwf. A pic no one has seen before and the profile is private (so obviously not trying to grab everyone's attention). Good find! --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 16:48, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

*Also, note he is wearing ear rings in both ears. Which means they are recent due to him getting his ears pierced. My money is on this being legit. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:07, 6 July 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:3DS Flipnote

2011-06-13T05:12:00Z

CFA:

Because he's making a big deal about 3DS not having Flipnote, can it be assumed that he has bought the 3DS? If so (or if there's evidence of it I'm not aware of), should it be mentioned in the article? Or is it, as of now, simply speculation? Though, speculation has been mentioned in articles before. Either way, I feel that this article needs to have some mention of the fact that Chris is fighting for an addition to either A) a system he doesn't even own or B) a system he has recently bought, and in doing so, has spent more taxpayer money on useless shit. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:00, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
:Chris probably has purchased a 3DS, but he hasn’t said that he ''owns'' one, so that remains a mystery. On a related note: all Chris did was take [http://flipnote.hatena.com/596BB400CE1DA3F4@DSi/movie/1DA3F4_0ABBC43511A6A_023 this video], slice out some frames, speed it up, and add his voice to it. Not very original. --[[User:Riley_Martin|'''Uhh… this is Riley Martin.''' O-Qua Tangin Wann]] 21:36, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
*Chris proves yet again, he fails at communication with human race. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 22:12, 12 June 2011 (PDT)CFA

Forum

2011-06-08T02:50:30Z

CFA:

{{disambiguation}}

'''Forum''' may refer to:

* '''[[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)]]''', a troll message board named after Chris's nickname for the school.
* '''[[/cwc/]]''', an image board dedicated to all things CWC.
* '''[[Chris-chan (forum)]]''', the dedicated forum at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].
* '''[[Sonichu Girls]]''', a now defunct fan forum.
* '''[http://cwcki.yuku.com The CWCki forum]
[[Category:Disambiguation pages]]

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-26T03:14:06Z

CFA: /* Just a clarification */

{{Template:Not A Forum}}

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Okay, isn't that whole paragraph about the camera images being flipped a little spergtacular? I mean, so fluffin what if the pics are flipped. [[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 01:01, 20 May 2011 (PDT)
::No [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:40, 20 May 2011 (PDT)
::*Like the ancient Hawaiians use to say "Aspergium is what run wikis!"--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:25, 20 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Puke Pic ==

Is the puke pic really necessary? Some of us find that worse than looking at Chris. [[User:Ewwww|Ewwww]] 13:13, 11 May 2011 (PDT)
*I agree it should be removed ----[[User:Observer|Observer]] 06:42, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*In the future, just do it guys. If someone genuinely believes the article is better off with such a pic, they'll put it back. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

==Jefferson quote==
Should we point out the Jefferson quote? It seems to imply that Chris wrote the quote, when (in at least my earnest opinion) it just happened to be on the chalkboard above what Chris wrote (I believe we've established before that this some sort of communal chalkboard that anyone can write on).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*I say no, as for the chalkboard, [http://www.readthehook.com/71925/free-speech-wall-national-award Local paper article on the wall]. The jefferson quote is not not surprising, if memory serves, there is a big stone placard right near the wall with that same quote.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** I think it should be pointed out, but pointed out as not by Chris in order to avoid people thinking it relates in any way, shape, or form to Chris. [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 15:11, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

== Just a clarification ==

As this effects the quality of the article, I will post it here where hopefully people from /cwc/ will see me. I know the people involved in these images. Chris was not coached into making these. Someone said to Chris "You should get in touch with your feminine side!" and he ran wild with it. Tito's explanation is absolutely true. Guys, I don't lie when it comes to the CWCki and Chris and if there's something that I cannot say, I either don't say it at all or I hint at it.

In regards to the article, perhaps we should cite Tito's comment in the explanation, you know something like "According to SurfShackTito" so people can take that however they will and link it to that comment as the reference, though copy and paste the text in the event the link goes down or whatever. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:18, 21 May 2011 (PDT)
*You know how cool it would be to refer to yourself as a Citation? "Oh Yeah? Well, Chris is a Colossal Faggot". Citation: Me! Also yeah that idea should suffice.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 19:35, 22 May 2011 (PDT)
:Well, I'm new around here (as a user, that is), but I do know you'd better be absolutely certain about this. Still, I suppose it does sound at least plausible - taking something to its literalistic is supposed to be a relatively common feature of autism, and it's hardly the first time Chris has done it. So, the explanation is that Chris drastically overdid somone's advice to 'get in touch with his feminine side', then? If nobody has any objections, then I guess I'll find a place to work that in...[[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 13:21, 21 May 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but as mentioned on /cwc/, there is no way in hell Chris did that good of a job on the make up by himself. So he had help in that regard at least, be it his mother or some poor store employee. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:25, 22 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Chris likely went to the mall to get all this done.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 19:35, 22 May 2011 (PDT)
:Well, there is a Salon right near the ice cream stand down near belk. Those poor stylists.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:14, 25 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-23T01:25:01Z

CFA: /* Just a clarification */

{{Template:Not A Forum}}

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Okay, isn't that whole paragraph about the camera images being flipped a little spergtacular? I mean, so fluffin what if the pics are flipped. [[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 01:01, 20 May 2011 (PDT)
::No [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:40, 20 May 2011 (PDT)
::*Like the ancient Hawaiians use to say "Aspergium is what run wikis!"--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:25, 20 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Puke Pic ==

Is the puke pic really necessary? Some of us find that worse than looking at Chris. [[User:Ewwww|Ewwww]] 13:13, 11 May 2011 (PDT)
*I agree it should be removed ----[[User:Observer|Observer]] 06:42, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*In the future, just do it guys. If someone genuinely believes the article is better off with such a pic, they'll put it back. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

==Jefferson quote==
Should we point out the Jefferson quote? It seems to imply that Chris wrote the quote, when (in at least my earnest opinion) it just happened to be on the chalkboard above what Chris wrote (I believe we've established before that this some sort of communal chalkboard that anyone can write on).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*I say no, as for the chalkboard, [http://www.readthehook.com/71925/free-speech-wall-national-award Local paper article on the wall]. The jefferson quote is not not surprising, if memory serves, there is a big stone placard right near the wall with that same quote.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** I think it should be pointed out, but pointed out as not by Chris in order to avoid people thinking it relates in any way, shape, or form to Chris. [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 15:11, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

== Just a clarification ==

As this effects the quality of the article, I will post it here where hopefully people from /cwc/ will see me. I know the people involved in these images. Chris was not coached into making these. Someone said to Chris "You should get in touch with your feminine side!" and he ran wild with it. Tito's explanation is absolutely true. Guys, I don't lie when it comes to the CWCki and Chris and if there's something that I cannot say, I either don't say it at all or I hint at it.

In regards to the article, perhaps we should cite Tito's comment in the explanation, you know something like "According to SurfShackTito" so people can take that however they will and link it to that comment as the reference, though copy and paste the text in the event the link goes down or whatever. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:18, 21 May 2011 (PDT)
:Well, I'm new around here (as a user, that is), but I do know you'd better be absolutely certain about this. Still, I suppose it does sound at least plausible - taking something to its literalistic is supposed to be a relatively common feature of autism, and it's hardly the first time Chris has done it. So, the explanation is that Chris drastically overdid somone's advice to 'get in touch with his feminine side', then? If nobody has any objections, then I guess I'll find a place to work that in...[[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 13:21, 21 May 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but as mentioned on /cwc/, there is no way in hell Chris did that good of a job on the make up by himself. So he had help in that regard at least, be it his mother or some poor store employee. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:25, 22 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-13T03:17:43Z

CFA: /* Transgender symbol */

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
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*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:::*Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
::::Mmm. I used to be so good at it. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

==The "Silver Ring" Thing==

Are we sure about the whole "Silver Ring of Purity" thing? It looks quite far fetched, including the idea that Chris's stance on [[F Abstinance|abstinence]].It just looks like his high school ring all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:24, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==The Asperchu Medallion==

When did this happen? Is Chris still making medallions? Has he not given up on Sonichu? Why Asperchu? He hates Asperchu.
: [[02 March 2010|lurk moar]] --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Cost of his Ensamble ==

Looking at a few of his items, It seems like Chris's outfit is not exactly expensive. For instance, that nail polish is $0.99 Wal-Mart brand. Not sure if this is even relavent to the page, but I think it would be interesting to figure out how much All his stuff would cost. Perhaps as a single sentance in Chris and Money, or Chris and Fashion perhaps? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:06, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
* It's Chris we are talking about. Assume that he paid 5$ for the whole outfit at Goodwill. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:20, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
** Fair enough --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:31, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? ==

A picture from CWC's "Sonichu Episode 1" LBP level, taken about a month ago: http://lbp.me/p/0gqk21 --[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 23:00, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
:He always had that "female equivalent" thing going on with that imaginary twin sister of his. Chris's mind is a typhoon of incomprehensible insanity (and, probably, reams of potential psychological theses); could've been building up for years for all we know. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 06:40, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Don't forget that he's always thought that girls should play with "boy toys" like Transformers and boys should play with "girl toys" like My Little Pony. And I quote, "if you're a young gentlemen, I suggest you buy yourself a...My Little Pony figurine, of your favorite color...or whatever. Stroking the hair of said pony, is very relaxing..like rubbing it against your cheek." He thinks this will help you understand the ladies. And the "girls should get Transformers to understand how a boy works..." <= that's from the future message video he made 2-3 years ago. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:56, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris didn't do that. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 09:34, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::* Chris didn't do what?? Everything mentioned up til this point of this section has been true... :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:32, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::for people who haven't played littlepigblanket... anyone can go into a level and attach shit to other shit and take photos of it. so it was one of chris's many fans who made sonichu into a transvestite just to be funny, unaware that that this photo would actually give chris a boner -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 16:41, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*This might explain a bit of Chris's sexual issues. If he is transgendered/transexual (Can never remember which is which), then it would explain why he acts the way he does and his obsession with crystal. If truly transgender, he would fantasize about having sex with guys but as a woman and not a gay man. Given Chris's general 'tard tendencies, he may not realize he is not gay but simply wanting to be a female. Food for thought.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:26, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** "Transsexual" is written with two S, but no, I don't think it's the case. (And totally not just because I don't want Chris to make transsexuals look bad.) His identity is too obviously masculine, even grotesquely so. Not to mention his persistent misogyny; if he thinks women are little more than shopping-obsessed sex-dispensing automata, why would he want to be one? - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 18:37, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
*** Lucid, I just want to point out that, in a way, Chris conformed to those female stereotypes. Perhaps I'm just being slow in the mind but isn't that exactly what he'd want to be? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 22:05, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Same reason preachers revile gay sterotypes on sunday and suck dick on monday. Maybe he just likes cross dressing.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:00, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*I really think we need to just say it like it is. Chris does this in the hopes of getting "china". He heard somewhere that "tomboys" are defined as ___________ and came to his own conclusion (as he's known to do... EXAMPLE: Recycling his navy gravy...) that a "tomgirl" would be defined as...well you've seen the pictures and that tomboys would like tomgirls because they "go together". It's for china people, there's no other motive. Chris doesn't want to "be a woman" and he's not trying to be "Crystal". He just wants china and thought this would help him get it...all that's left to know is: Did he do this all by himself? Or is this a new sweetheart sega? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:10, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*While Henry Barnes's original comment is at least somewhat relevant, as it could in theory flesh out the article, the rest of this is chatter that does nothing to improve the article. As a result, 4Macie, CFA, SilentThunder, and LucidFox have been banned for a day for violating the [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]] policy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:05, 11 May 2011 (PDT)

== Puke Pic ==

Is the puke pic really necessary? Some of us find that worse than looking at Chris. [[User:Ewwww|Ewwww]] 13:13, 11 May 2011 (PDT)
*I agree it should be removed ----[[User:Observer|Observer]] 06:42, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*In the future, just do it guys. If someone genuinely believes the article is better off with such a pic, they'll put it back. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

==Jefferson quote==
Should we point out the Jefferson quote? It seems to imply that Chris wrote the quote, when (in at least my earnest opinion) it just happened to be on the chalkboard above what Chris wrote (I believe we've established before that this some sort of communal chalkboard that anyone can write on).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*I say no, as for the chalkboard, [http://www.readthehook.com/71925/free-speech-wall-national-award Local paper article on the wall]. The jefferson quote is not not surprising, if memory serves, there is a big stone placard right near the wall with that same quote.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Transgender symbol ==

How the hell did Chris find the [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/A_TransGender-Symbol_Plain3.svg transgender symbol?]. Note both on the mod racer pic and the chalkboard pic he drew the symbol.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:24, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Since Chris got neither imagination or insight, I will assume that somebody asked him to do it. Looks like we will have to wait a little to know all the details. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:33, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*or Someone told him, I doubt Chris even thought such a symbol existed, there is more this then Tito lets on. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:17, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

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CFA: /* Transgender symbol */ new section

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CFA: /* How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? */

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
----

*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:::*Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
::::Mmm. I used to be so good at it. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

==The "Silver Ring" Thing==

Are we sure about the whole "Silver Ring of Purity" thing? It looks quite far fetched, including the idea that Chris's stance on [[F Abstinance|abstinence]].It just looks like his high school ring all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:24, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==The Asperchu Medallion==

When did this happen? Is Chris still making medallions? Has he not given up on Sonichu? Why Asperchu? He hates Asperchu.
: [[02 March 2010|lurk moar]] --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Cost of his Ensamble ==

Looking at a few of his items, It seems like Chris's outfit is not exactly expensive. For instance, that nail polish is $0.99 Wal-Mart brand. Not sure if this is even relavent to the page, but I think it would be interesting to figure out how much All his stuff would cost. Perhaps as a single sentance in Chris and Money, or Chris and Fashion perhaps? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:06, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
* It's Chris we are talking about. Assume that he paid 5$ for the whole outfit at Goodwill. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:20, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
** Fair enough --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:31, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? ==

A picture from CWC's "Sonichu Episode 1" LBP level, taken about a month ago: http://lbp.me/p/0gqk21 --[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 23:00, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
:He always had that "female equivalent" thing going on with that imaginary twin sister of his. Chris's mind is a typhoon of incomprehensible insanity (and, probably, reams of potential psychological theses); could've been building up for years for all we know. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 06:40, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Don't forget that he's always thought that girls should play with "boy toys" like Transformers and boys should play with "girl toys" like My Little Pony. And I quote, "if you're a young gentlemen, I suggest you buy yourself a...My Little Pony figurine, of your favorite color...or whatever. Stroking the hair of said pony, is very relaxing..like rubbing it against your cheek." He thinks this will help you understand the ladies. And the "girls should get Transformers to understand how a boy works..." <= that's from the future message video he made 2-3 years ago. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:56, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris didn't do that. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 09:34, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::* Chris didn't do what?? Everything mentioned up til this point of this section has been true... :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:32, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::for people who haven't played littlepigblanket... anyone can go into a level and attach shit to other shit and take photos of it. so it was one of chris's many fans who made sonichu into a transvestite just to be funny, unaware that that this photo would actually give chris a boner -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 16:41, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*This might explain a bit of Chris's sexual issues. If he is transgendered/transexual (Can never remember which is which), then it would explain why he acts the way he does and his obsession with crystal. If truly transgender, he would fantasize about having sex with guys but as a woman and not a gay man. Given Chris's general 'tard tendencies, he may not realize he is not gay but simply wanting to be a female. Food for thought.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:26, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** "Transsexual" is written with two S, but no, I don't think it's the case. (And totally not just because I don't want Chris to make transsexuals look bad.) His identity is too obviously masculine, even grotesquely so. Not to mention his persistent misogyny; if he thinks women are little more than shopping-obsessed sex-dispensing automata, why would he want to be one? - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 18:37, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Same reason preachers revile gay sterotypes on sunday and suck dick on monday. Maybe he just likes cross dressing.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:00, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-10T22:26:10Z

CFA: /* How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? */

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
----

*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:::*Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
::::Mmm. I used to be so good at it. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

==The "Silver Ring" Thing==

Are we sure about the whole "Silver Ring of Purity" thing? It looks quite far fetched, including the idea that Chris's stance on [[F Abstinance|abstinence]].It just looks like his high school ring all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:24, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==The Asperchu Medallion==

When did this happen? Is Chris still making medallions? Has he not given up on Sonichu? Why Asperchu? He hates Asperchu.
: [[02 March 2010|lurk moar]] --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Cost of his Ensamble ==

Looking at a few of his items, It seems like Chris's outfit is not exactly expensive. For instance, that nail polish is $0.99 Wal-Mart brand. Not sure if this is even relavent to the page, but I think it would be interesting to figure out how much All his stuff would cost. Perhaps as a single sentance in Chris and Money, or Chris and Fashion perhaps? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:06, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
* It's Chris we are talking about. Assume that he paid 5$ for the whole outfit at Goodwill. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:20, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
** Fair enough --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:31, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? ==

A picture from CWC's "Sonichu Episode 1" LBP level, taken about a month ago: http://lbp.me/p/0gqk21 --[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 23:00, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
:He always had that "female equivalent" thing going on with that imaginary twin sister of his. Chris's mind is a typhoon of incomprehensible insanity (and, probably, reams of potential psychological theses); could've been building up for years for all we know. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 06:40, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Don't forget that he's always thought that girls should play with "boy toys" like Transformers and boys should play with "girl toys" like My Little Pony. And I quote, "if you're a young gentlemen, I suggest you buy yourself a...My Little Pony figurine, of your favorite color...or whatever. Stroking the hair of said pony, is very relaxing..like rubbing it against your cheek." He things this will help you understand the ladies. And the "girls should get Transformers to understand how a boy works..." <= that's from the future message video he made 2-3 years ago. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:56, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris didn't do that. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 09:34, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
*This might explain a bit of Chris's sexual issues. If he is transgendered/transexual (Can never remember which is which), then it would explain why he acts the way he does and his obsession with crystal. If truly transgender, he would fantasize about having sex with guys but as a woman and not a gay man. Given Chris's general 'tard tendencies, he may not realize he is not gay but simply wanting to be a female. Food for thought.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:26, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

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In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
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*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:::*Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
::::Mmm. I used to be so good at it. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==The "Silver Ring" Thing==

Are we sure about the whole "Silver Ring of Purity" thing? It looks quite far fetched, including the idea that Chris's stance on [[F Abstinance|abstinence]].It just looks like his high school ring all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:24, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-04T20:47:12Z

CFA:

{{Honest}}
[[File:I am tomgirl.jpg|center|350px]]
[[File:TG1.png|center|300px]]

[[File:Tomgirlart.jpg|thumb|250px]]
One day, [[Chris]] decided to cross-dress. Then take pictures of it. Then go out in [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|public]] and take pictures of it. The pictures were leaked by [[Surfshack Tito]] on the 28 April 2011. Why Chris decided to change his look are not yet known, however it can be speculated that Chris is trying to get some [[china]] using the logic that [[Tiffany Gowen|"Tomboys"]] tend to go for [[Homos|"Tomgirls"]] naturally.

For some inexplicable reason, several of the images are reversed left-to-right. This appears to be limited to (some of) the 640x480 pictures. They are reproduced here in their original form -- how and why Chris did this is unknown. TG6, TG9, and TG19 are examples; there are several others. It should also be noted that picture taking occurred in at least three different places. Pictures TG3 and TG4 are taken on the Downtown Walking Mall. TG12 and TG19 are taken at the Fashion Square Mall and the rest taken in his home.

===Chris's outfit===
* Bright green nail polish
* Earrings (a purple glass stud and a blue ring) - note that piercing the right ear is traditionally code for [[Homos|homosexuality]]; guess which one Chris pierced twice?
* Women's sandals
* Blue eyeliner
* Jeans
* Blue string top
*Black thong
*A silver ring<ref>[[:File:TG6.jpg]]</ref> (note that silver rings have been used to symbolize a pledge of [[F Abstinence|abstinence]] until [[Lovely Weather|marriage]]<ref>[http://www.silverringthing.com/]</ref>
* A red and blue sweater vest (tank top) with a red shirt underneath it
* Red lipstick
* A new pair of [[glasses]]

== Gallery of Chris-tran ==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:TG2.jpg|Tomgirl car in ''[[ModNation Racers]]''
Image:TG3.jpg|The quote is "When government fears the people, there is freedom..." by [[A Hike|Thomas Jefferson]].
Image:TG4.jpg
Image:TG5.jpg|Chris matched the Color of his [[Amnyfest Ring|high school ring]] with his new pair of sandals.
File:TG6.jpg
File:TG7.jpg|Left wing buccaneer, right ear [[Homos|queer]].
File:TG8.jpg|Not the first time that Chris has covered his face in [[pickle]]s and [[Semen|white goo.]] He's using the [[Plush Breasts]] as a pillow.
File:TG9.jpg|You just know this picture will be used in the paper when Chris finally kills [[Michael Snyder|someone]].
File:TG10.jpg
File:TG11.jpg
File:TG12.jpg
File:TG13.jpg|DAT ASS
File:TG14.jpg
File:TG15.jpg|[[Barbara|Barb 2.0]]
File:TG16.jpg
File:TG17.jpg
File:TG18.jpg|GOODBYE HORSES
File:TG19.jpg
File:TG20.jpg|The PlayStation Move SharpShooter doesn't make the look any manlier.
File:TG21.jpg
File:TG22.jpg
File:TG23.jpg
File:TG24.jpg|Please note the [[Medallions_of_Fail#The_Asperchu_Medallion_.28a.k.a._The_Medallion_of_Win.3F.29|Asperchu Medallion]] on the right of the picture.
File:TG25.jpg
File:TG26.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
*[[Anime_Wings|Anime Wings]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Chris and fashion]]

==References==
<references/>
{{CWC-isms}}
[[Category: CWC-isms]]
[[Category:Historical Documents]]
[[Category:Homos]]

Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-04T20:44:37Z

CFA: /* Gallery of Chris-tran */

{{Honest}}
[[File:I am tomgirl.jpg|center|350px]]
[[File:TG1.png|center|300px]]

[[File:Tomgirlart.jpg|thumb|250px]]
One day, [[Chris]] decided to cross-dress. Then take pictures of it. Then go out in [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|public]] and take pictures of it. The pictures were leaked by [[Surfshack Tito]] on the 28 April 2011. Why Chris decided to change his look are not yet known, however it can be speculated that Chris is trying to get some [[china]] using the logic that [[Tiffany Gowen|"Tomboys"]] tend to go for [[Homos|"Tomgirls"]] naturally.

For some inexplicable reason, several of the images are reversed left-to-right. This appears to be limited to (some of) the 640x480 pictures. They are reproduced here in their original form -- how and why Chris did this is unknown. TG6, TG9, and TG19 are examples; there are several others.

===Chris's outfit===
* Bright green nail polish
* Earrings (a purple glass stud and a blue ring) - note that piercing the right ear is traditionally code for [[Homos|homosexuality]]; guess which one Chris pierced twice?
* Women's sandals
* Blue eyeliner
* Jeans
* Blue string top
*Black thong
*A silver ring<ref>[[:File:TG6.jpg]]</ref> (note that silver rings have been used to symbolize a pledge of [[F Abstinence|abstinence]] until [[Lovely Weather|marriage]]<ref>[http://www.silverringthing.com/]</ref>
* A red and blue sweater vest (tank top) with a red shirt underneath it
* Red lipstick
* A new pair of [[glasses]]

== Gallery of Chris-tran ==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:TG2.jpg|Tomgirl car in ''[[ModNation Racers]]''
Image:TG3.jpg|The quote is "When government fears the people, there is freedom..." by [[A Hike|Thomas Jefferson]].
Image:TG4.jpg
Image:TG5.jpg|Chris matched the Color of his [[Amnyfest Ring|high school ring]] with his new pair of sandals.
File:TG6.jpg
File:TG7.jpg|Left wing buccaneer, right ear [[Homos|queer]].
File:TG8.jpg|Not the first time that Chris has covered his face in [[pickle]]s and [[Semen|white goo.]] He's using the [[Plush Breasts]] as a pillow.
File:TG9.jpg|You just know this picture will be used in the paper when Chris finally kills [[Michael Snyder|someone]].
File:TG10.jpg
File:TG11.jpg
File:TG12.jpg
File:TG13.jpg|DAT ASS
File:TG14.jpg
File:TG15.jpg|[[Barbara|Barb 2.0]]
File:TG16.jpg
File:TG17.jpg
File:TG18.jpg|GOODBYE HORSES
File:TG19.jpg
File:TG20.jpg|The PlayStation Move SharpShooter doesn't make the look any manlier.
File:TG21.jpg
File:TG22.jpg
File:TG23.jpg
File:TG24.jpg|Please note the [[Medallions_of_Fail#The_Asperchu_Medallion_.28a.k.a._The_Medallion_of_Win.3F.29|Asperchu Medallion]] on the right of the picture.
File:TG25.jpg
File:TG26.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
*[[Anime_Wings|Anime Wings]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Chris and fashion]]

==References==
<references/>
{{CWC-isms}}
[[Category: CWC-isms]]
[[Category:Historical Documents]]
[[Category:Homos]]

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-03T20:28:34Z

CFA: /* Preexisting gender determination issues */

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
----

*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

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CFA: /* Disturbing revelation */

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cogsdev si a pretty cool gal. seh runs cwcki and doesn't afraid of anything.
Disregard that, Cogsdev sucks black cock at truck stops.

please leave me a message on my '''[[User talk:Cogsdev|talk page]]''' if you need to contact me
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==ohinternet==
Should we include a da update about ED and ohinternet considering their past relationship? [[Supersheep|Supersheep]] 23:38, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT)

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*I personally would have Da Update be first but Clyde insists that the PSN Tracker is more important. Take your complaints to him.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:11, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Remove the PSN tracker ==

Srsly. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:58, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Or put it under the update section. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:41, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

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This page is for discussion of da latest update.

== Flipnote Hatena return ==

So... how many <s>days</s> <s>hours</s> minutes before he's banned? --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 04:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, they've been up for almost 12 hours now. He must have flown under the mod's radar. That's going to change since we're now aware of this development. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 05:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

And will we get many more badly drawn, idiotic animations? Also what is the general opinion of what we want to happen here? Do we want to report him so he will get banned again and rage, or do we want to see where he goes with this? -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 05:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
* Already reported his water maze dream. May as well to be perfectly honest. Besides, I don't think we'll get anything new, and I would love to see him rage about Flipnote Hatena Moderators for banning him because he is BAwwwwwtistic. Jump on the Pickle train, destination, Chris. [[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 02:33 25, July 2010 (UTC)

Knowing how fast Chris got banned from Flipnote Hatena(what was it, a week or two before he got perma-banned?), it will probably be even shorter. I mean, does he seriously think he can get back on and no one will notice? He's a real tool if he thinks Trolls aren't going to mess with him or report him, and an idiot if he thinks that the Moderators on FH wont notice his shenanigans and kick him right off. Also, how did he get around the ban? He must be using a library computer or something, or bought a new DS just to get around it. [[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 01:37 25, July 2010

SakuraBlossom is posting again. Apparently she had the watery maze dream too. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 06:38, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

:Any chance of a link to her channel? This sounds interesting. -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 07:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::*http://flipnote.hatena.com/mobile/9C6792D0F3618798@DSi/ is SakuraBlossom's profile. She gave him a butt-tonne of stars just before. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* Thanks. -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 15:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

'''Hey guys. Delabonte here. I don't want to have to be the one to point out the obvious but you all have Autism so here goes. How about you not report Chris this time? Haven't you realised that getting him banned from one of his few outlets is completely retarded? I know you think you're achieving something, but you are achieving the wrong thing. Think about it carefully. What was funnier, when he was making these cartoons or when he vanished and did nothing?''' --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 12:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks for the sorely-needed message (and the protip), but I fear it may be too late as some have already taken the initiative to rat him out. Even without the dumbasses prematurely ending our fun, I'm sure it's just a matter of time until Chris gets HIMSELF in trouble with the mods. In the meantime, let's see if he catches a hold of a certain cherry flower who wants to be his heartsweet. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 14:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:*As far as we know, he hasn't responded to Sakura aside from in email. Still, it's important he not find out, or he could discover the woman who had the watery maze dream too... That would be a disaster. Also, I do agree; quit reporting him. It's funnier if/when he gets banned because of his own actions. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Anybody who reports Chris is a moron. Also, this means he bought another DSi. And that's just sad.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Update: Flipnotes previously reported to be taken down are (surprise) back up again. Oh Chris. (Hopefully this time around the trolltards won't do any reporting.) --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 01:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== New tweets ==

Yeah. Chris has tweeted yet again, promoting his Sonichu Modnation crap and asking for ‘5-Star Votes’. No mention of Flipnote or anything related, though.--[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 08:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

== Where is Chris? ==

It seems like he has been pretty inactive lately. There have been no new updates since July 26th. I wonder what he is doing. What is he up to? Any thoughts?
-Interested bystander 08/10/2010
*Chris is playing [[ModNation Racers]]. He has been for quite a while. Nothing will happen for some time. Same thing happened when he got LBP. Also, you don't have to type your name out and stuff. Just put 4 tildes (~) after your message and it will sign your post for you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 22:35, 10 August 2010 (PDT)

This quiet spell is killing me, someone go fire a petrol bomb through his house, get some reaction.. anything! If i lived within 3 hours of him, swear to god i'd be there everyday with my camera staking him out. --[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 04:47, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Heh. The thing is... doing stuff that would make anyone RAEG (or at least, respond with huge amounts of emotion and anger) isn't really what's funny. The funny thing is doing [[Miyamoto|something]] [[Liquid|really]] [[Asperchu|minor]] that wouldn't phase anyone else, or would even amuse them, then watching him explode with disproportionate tard rage. There's also this tiny, niggling doubt in the back of my mind that... unless it actually hit Chris's room, or his car, or his parents raged at him for it (therefore inconveniencing him), he honestly wouldn't care. He'd just call it 'sad' or something. Chris really only cares about himself. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:59, 12 August 2010 (PDT)

Maybe Chris is still getting into stupid shit, but we're not seeing it. Maybe he was already banned from FAF for being a creep. We can't know at this point, but the possibility that we're missing out on some heavy shit is pretty frustrating. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 02:28, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

For some reason I am really interested in the whole Chris saga. I find him to be a pretty interesting person. I wish I lived near him so I could actually see him in action or actually talk to him. I tried adding him on facebook but apparently he never checks his facebook anymore. [[User:Interested bystander|Interested bystander]] 12:54, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

I swear this whole 2 year saga is like the best thing on the internet, but even so a lot of it has been dominated by quite spells. Then he'll release a new episode and in a whirlwind of shit and comeuppance he'll find his new sweetheart (I.E. any girl who dares to even acknowledge his existence, besides his mother.). Until then we just got be patient. [[User:Open the udder|Open the udder]] 15:34, 24 August 2010 (PDT)

== Not a forum crackdown ==

Given recent events, I'm starting to get pissed about people who are using CWCki as a forum. Next person to do any of the follow (list not inclusive): posting trolling plans, posting personal comments on videos (like commenting how stupid Chris is), or pretty much '''anything that is not pertaining to improvement of the article will result in temporary bans.''' If you have any questions about this, feel free to contact me. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:58, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
*champ, despite you being the most cwcki leader of all cwcki things, to be honest, you're not doing a very good job of enforcing this. you SHOULD call it a forum crackdown. you should call it Crackdown: The End of All Things: The Movie [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:29, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

== He has returned ==

Dry spell officially over? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 06:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

* That has still yet to be seen, but it appears so... I would, however, expect more video's soon in the immediate future given how much Chris has obsessed over his 10 year high-school reunion. When he finds out it isn't going to happen or he wasn't invited, there will definitely be some more videos (either of him crying about how the Greene County School board conspired to keep him out of the reunion, or raging against the school itself for not inviting him). Keep your eyes peeled, this high school reunion whining has the potential to become a saga in itself --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 06:10, 27 August 2010

if not the reunion this "trollbusters" alone could be another ego trip worth laughing at[[User:Mr.moose|Mr.moose]] 09:26, 27 August 2010
==Death of the Beloved PS3==
I don't understand why Chris destroyed his PS3... isn't formating the drive mean he just deleted all the data on the hard drive? I mean I realize he had a ton of shit on there but, now he has to buy a new one when he couldve just started from scratch with his old one... Anyone mind elaborating on this?[[User:Open the udder|Open the udder]] 01:21, 30 August 2010 (PDT)
:This is either a gross overreaction to losing his hard drive (most of the content on which could easily be replaced, such as comics, songs, and purchased content.) or a somewhat extreme attempt at <s>re</s>gaining a social life. It actually reminds me of when I was a kid and I lost one of my Pokemon due to a trading glitch and came to the retarded conclusion that I should just wipe my entire save file. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 12:10, 30 August 2010 (PDT)
:: who knows. my guess is that he will probably buy another one eventually with his tugboat
:::What about the rumors that he was trying to collect a bounty from trolls. [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 22:37, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
::::Rumors and nothing more. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 06:01, 1 September 2010 (PDT)
Speaking of unsubstantiated rumors, I also heard that Chris's PSN is active again. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 06:32, 1 September 2010 (PDT)

==Chris spotted at Fashion Square...Again.==
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ueHWOKMh0 The guy who made the FAF vids posted this.]

Any thoughts? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 17:13, 31 August 2010 (EST)

: He looks almost normal. Interesting... -[[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 14:26, 31 August 2010 (PDT)

:Same orange shirt from this weekend's second video. I wonder if he's giving up on the trucker vest. Kind of disappointing, really, in the plain old slacks and a t-shirt he just looks like a garden-variety fat dude. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 14:27, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
::Chris is seriously not aging well. The more normal he dresses, the more obvious his poor health becomes. What I see is a mass of orange filth, and from that mass, four scrawny, sickly limbs have sprouted. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:09, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Maybe it's 'cos I live in the South. Take him out of the clown shirt and Chris isn't all that unusual down here. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:14, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
The way he's sitting suggests he's "spreading his plumage" just like his Captain Morgan pose with the muscle bra at FAF. He still fucking believes he's the apex of masculinity and women will flock to him if he makes himself visible. Of course, the only thing he's showcasing sitting like that is his gut and man boobs.

Should we add this to the [[Attraction Sign]] page? Same concept, Chris is just getting more and more implicit about it. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 14:38, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
:He's not becoming more implicit, he's just becoming more lazy about it. Back in 2005, he actually put a tiny degree of effort into his attraction methods. Now he's not even trying anymore. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:02, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
:There is no attraction sign in that video. Chris is just lusting after the chick while he sits slumped in the seat, at the height of his glory. --[[User:CaptainCanuck|CaptainCanuck]] 20:46, 31 August 2010 (PDT)

== Jerkops wanted ==

I'm looking for a few new jerkops.

Prereqs:

1) must not be a fag (homosexuals alright, I mean people who are just stupid).
2) must obsessively or at least semi-obsessively monitor the CWCki
3) must have a spine.
4) you must have been editing the CWCki for a while (in other words, I recognize your name).

Being a jerkop ''will not'' get you any special privileges. You will not get privy information about Chris. You will not get to troll Chris. You will probably not get any honor or glory. You will however get a userbox.

Contact info on my userpage.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

:ME ME ME ME ME ME [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:00, 7 September 2010 (PDT)
:*No. Everyone else contact me privately.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:01, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

== Chris mentioned on Atop the Fourth Wall ==

Linkara mentioned ''Sonichu'' and Chris in his latest video "15 Comics I'll Never Review", under the entry regarding webcomics. The Embodiment of the Internet showed up and forced him to review ''Sonichu'', but then settled for a ''Sonic'' comic.

The episode in question: http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/09/top-15-comics-ill-never-review.html -- [[User:TobyMobias|TobyMobias]] 22:13, 7 September 2010 (PDT)
:I watched it earlier today and I lol'd hard when he mentioned it. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 23:28, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

== Any news on Chris' High School Reunion ==

Hello everyone, I'm mostly a lurker but ever since I found out about this site I couldn't help myself and dig deeper into Mr. Chandler's mind. Chris has been hell bent on trying to go to his high school reunion, hoping to meet his old gal-pals. I've been trying to find anything about Manchester High School on the internet, hoping to find anything about anyone planning a 10 year reunion. From alumniclass.com to facebook, looks like no one is planning anything or seems to care about their high school reunion. I found this on alumniclass.com, but it looks like a troll made this. [http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/ShinGokuIAM/Others/MHSClassReunion00.jpg] I'm going to try and keep digging but I doubt anyone cares about this high school reunion. [[User:ShinGokuIAM|ShinGokuIAM]] 07:55, 7 October 2010 (PDT)

== Laser Pointer Shit ==
This post is six months old but it hasn't been mentioned here so I thought it might be worth crossposting.

"I have witnessed Chris Chan in the flesh and he's kind of a running joke at work. He would shine his laser pointer at a woman I worked with in order to get her attention, I guess because she fit his physical criteria, except that she was not boyfriend-free." ''-Komet, Something Awful Forums''

[[User:V3N0M1300|V3N0M1300]] 19:56, 10 December 2010 (PST)

== Is this the end? ==
We haven't heard anything from Chris since November. Unless we somehow find a way to troll him through the PSN, could this be the end of the trolling as we know it? [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 22:11, 14 January 2011 (PST)

:Chris will always come back to the internet. Once he realizes nobody will ever love him in real life, he'll come back to the internet, thus allowing us to troll him. I'm pretty sure he'll go back to being stupid(er). Although he probably won't put effort into a sweetheart. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 16:40, 10 January 2011 (PST)

== Want to see Chris in public ==

Head out to the fashion square mall on a saturday between 3-4. Being the autistic creature of habit he is, he always shows up, with Bob.
[[User:CFA|CFA]] 16:00, 23 January 2011 (PST)CFA

== CWCki captioning side project ==

There's a lot of talented people on the CWCki and since not a lot is going on with Chris, we can use this time to really do something terrific. One thing I think we can work on is assisting our sister project, [[TheCWCvilleLibrary]] with captioning. I was able to make one for [[MEOW]] and it turned out fine.

Captioning videos isn't too difficult, I used [http://accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/accessibility-tools/easy-youtube-caption-creator/ this] though I hear [http://captiontube.appspot.com/ this] is a good resource as well. You can use CWCki transcripts for the captions and otherwise it's not too difficult.

Helping out with this means that the hearing impaired can now experience the fail that is Chris, in addition to people who want to watch Chris's videos without hearing Chris's voice. This can also lead to translating Chris's videos into other languages.

Participation means getting your name mention in the video description and you'll get a pretty cool user box (TBD). The more you contribute, the cooler user boxes you'll get.

Send your captions (upload them to MediaFire or some site like that) and message them to Abuelita on TheCWCvilleLibrary. Be sure you mention your CWCki name so you can get credit and so I can get you a sweet ass userbox.

I plan on contributing myself, so by all means participate.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:41, 7 February 2011 (PST)
*Just to bring it to your attention, both of those links are the same. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:28, 8 February 2011 (PST)
:*NUH-UH.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:54, 8 February 2011 (PST)
*I started doing the Chris's DVD videos (just to follow the channel's order), I could translate them to Spanish too.[[User:Cesare|Cesare]] 15:03, 8 February 2011 (PST)
**I should probably say that I did the JenkinsJinkies application video and Hello Juffalo/Downs with the Clowns, just so that nobody else does them a second time. Should we have a separate page cataloging which videos have been done by who? [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:07, 8 February 2011 (PST)
::*I wasn't sure if we should make this a separate CWCki project but it might be handy. Post which videos you plan on working on [[CWCki:Caption Crusade|here]]. If you can translate Chris's into Spanish, that'd be great Cesare.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:37, 8 February 2011 (PST)

== Inside the Pickle Suit is canceled ==

Due to lack of interest by relevant parties, the project is canceled. The interview with Ivy will still go on (as we've already paid the seance and the deposit was non-refundable). If you wanna bitch, go to [[IRC]] and bitch to the people who opted out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:52, 9 February 2011 (PST)
*Though to be fair, the issue of in-character versus out of character discussion, essentially trolls breaking the fourth wall in the theatrics of Chris would be a difficult issue to reconcile .--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:08, 9 February 2011 (PST)

I don't blame them if they don't want to do it. There's no pressure, and I respect the people behind the scenes too much for them to risk giving away personal details or revelations that could end up backfiring on them. Lord knows no one needs to give Chris anything of value(however small), better to be safe than sorry. I say let sleeping dogs lye. --[[Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 05:29 10, February 2011 (EST)

Agreed. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 08:12, 10 February 2011 (PST)

== NeverOnHexBox ==

I'm sure some of you might have seen this already, I was surprised it wasn't on the CWCki, but Chris is back on under a new Youtube Channel. Here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu75tzrwLAU, you just have to see it for yourself. I swear, the internet and video games are Chris' Heroin and Cocaine. --[[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 01:49, 14 February 2011 (EST)
*That's not Chris, that's just someone posting videos of his levels. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 23:02, 13 February 2011 (PST)
* Either way, it counts as being back in my books. --[[user:Chris_pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 02:16, 13 February 2011 (EST)

== Back on MySpace? ==

Chris's [[MySpace]] showed a recent login on 26 [[February 2011]]. Some notable edits show that he's now even more picky when it comes to his courtship expectations: "You must be pretty, single, and willing to meet me and my papa at Casa De Chandler with[in] two days of first contact." He also seems to be taking a different view towards [[jerks]]: "I am also open to friendships with Guys; for many years I shunned men because of how they treated me but now I am cool with being friends with them."

Now this may be a troll and not him, but if it is him, is this something worth noting on [[Template:Da_update|Da Update]] or something? Maybe note the changes on the page about his MySpace? [[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 03:24, 26 February 2011 (PST)

Well, we should look a little further into this before jumping to conclusions. It's pretty easy to hack a Myspace account, and if it's one owned by Chris, then it's even easier to take. Not only that, his Myspace has been inactive for a pretty long time. The message sounds like something Chris would say, but this can be imitated as we know.

This is the first time since he left that there's been any sort of major signs from him on the internet, if he is trying to get back into his internet crawl spaces, he's certainly trying to be a little more discreet about it, and posting this as an update on the CWCki might scare him away if he see's it(since he checks the CWCki), so perhaps a little causion is needed. I'll check this out though. --[[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 02:31, 28, February 2011 (EST)

It's a decent impression if it's not him. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 09:46, 28 February 2011 (PST)

*It's not Chris, I'll tell you that much. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:42, 28 February 2011 (PST)

== I can not believe I missed this all until earlier this week... ==

So it wasn't until a youtube partner known as BLACKbusterCritic posted a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSMWckfTfuM video] on him that I learned of CWC's existence... It's so funny that I was able to live in ignorance for so long... Anyway, I am so upset that I missed this all because there is so much information out there, and I want to learn it all.

I hope Chris comes back, I need some more humor in my life.

Keep doing a good job on the site, I am so sad to see ED is down... Hoping that site also comes back.

[[User:Raku|Raku]] 14:27, 16 April 2011 (PDT)

== ED is gone ==

*ED has folded. The owners sold the site and ran like hell. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 22:35, 16 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
** Hi Slowpoke!--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:24, 16 April 2011 (PDT)
*Oh, since you are so ahead of the curve, you have updated the ED page on the site and the like right? Otherwise, fuck off. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 14:40, 18 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

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See the discussion on the sports bra pic page. The "muscle bra" might only be the shirt he's wearing and not actually sports bra. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:43, 1 November 2009 (CET)

He would call shirt a shirt and not bra. "I highly recommend this to every dude who goes around shirtless: wear a muscle bra." --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 15:50, 1 November 2009 (CET)

It can't be a shirt. Even if he considers a normal shirt a different one if he rolls his sleeves, I do believe he still has the basic rudimentary logic required to tell the difference between a shirt and a bra. -- [[User:Da Nuke|Da_Nuke the Rage Bomb]] 06:59, 3 November 2009 (CET)

I'm with Sonijew and Da Nuke. He's obviously aware that the world at large knows about him wearing sports bras, so he's trying to justify it by saying it's for his muscles, and that all STRONG guys should wear them. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:04, 3 November 2009 (CET)

My theory: "When Daddy CWCism and Mommy Freudian-Slip love each other very much, they..." In other words: Chris sometimes show incapability to communicate his ideas clearly and people read too much into what he says. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 00:46, 7 November 2009 (CET)

I'm not exactly sure how to word it, but Chris has, in the past, used t-shirts to create homemade muscle bras before he ever decided to start buying them. You can see one clearly in this video: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Chris_Sex_Videos#Chrischan_Undressing --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 23:23, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Well noticed Kwippleton. It's a weight related issue, and he has some pretty obvious cleavage going on there, so I can see why he'd need it. It might be a better idea for [[Chris and Health]] than Muscle Bra however.

== Why is this up for deletion? ==

Don't delete this. Or at the very least, merge it with Chris and Fashion. [[User:Graduon4eva|Graduon4eva]] 23:00, 10 November 2009 (CET)
* 1) Please sign your comments, (Sorry. I fixed it.) 2) I really think Chris is just talking about his muscle '''shirt''' and thinks it's clever of him calling it a "bra" and we really don't have conclusive evidence that he's talking about his sports bra. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:32, 6 November 2009 (CET)
* he refers to his sports bra as a sports bra, which he wears to support his manboobs. when he says "muscle bra", i think he means that he wants men to cover their bare chests with something. since they don't have breasts like he does, he probably thinks... well, i don't know what he was thinking. but if we're going to have a page about chris's sports bra, it should be about his sports bra, we shouldn't jump to the conclusion that a muscle bra and the sports bra are the same thing, because chris hasn't(to the best of my knowledge) suggested that yet. i think this should be merged with [[Sports bra photo series]], or [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php?title=Sports_bra&redirect=no Sports bra] should be made into a real page --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 00:57, 7 November 2009 (CET)
**I agree with Cogs. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 08:14, 7 November 2009 (CET)
**I agree with Graduon4eva, this article should be merged and made into a sub-article. --[[User:Scarletdragon|Scarletdragon]] 23:41, 2 December 2009 (CET)
:*After watching [[Clyde is Weaker than Water|this video]] again, I notice that the "shirt" "Jack" (it was Jack who was the top, right?) does look identical to his sports bra (that is, it's gray and it does look like a bra), and he's talking about wearing a "muscle bra." I was originally skeptica but the video does seem to suggest that Chris does indeed call his sports bra a "muscle bra." I think perhaps the best course would to be to merge the Sports bra photo series into this article, to describe when they first appeared. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:52, 19 December 2009 (CET)

== "Chris's review" ==

Obvious troll is obvious.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:07, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

== Hi ==

As the Original Creator of Sonichu and also this article, I think the leaked e-mail should have its own article anyway. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 14:52, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Requesting picture of Kratos in a muscle bra ==

For the [[God of War]] article. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 07:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
* Done. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 05:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Chest Size ==
Bear mind I'm having insomnia right now, so forgive me if this is rambly. The band size of a bra is the inches around your chest under the tits (not the tits themselves- that's the cup) + 5. Since bras only come in even numbers, if you land on an odd number, you round up. Chris's email says his band size was 43, and he rounded down to 42. This means his chest is 38 inches around. The average man's chest, at least according to sewing guidelines, between 32 and 35 inches. Usually anything bigger, since there isn't much variety in bone size unless you're just a particularly large man, is caused by either being overweight or being musclebound. It's just another small piece of evidence in how fat Chris is... also, according to my sewing guidelines, it places him at an large in clothing size, but keep in mind that sewing guidelines and premade clothing guidelines differ. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 08:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
* Using [http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/bra-fit-guide.html#2 Bra Fit Guide], you can see he falls somewhere between a B cup and a C cup. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:37, 12 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Barbara Chandler

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CFA: /* You are now aware */

Despite her being a slutty slutty slut whore earlier in her life, I truely feel sorry for barbera, she didnt deserve chris, or that squaler of her house. -[[User:CJB8895|Cody]]
* She didn't have to have a kid with Bob, she had Cole, and Bob had his kids. Though it probably wasn't documented in the early 80s, the fact that both of them were over 40 when Chris was born made the likelihood of him being born autistic higher. Plus, as mentioned everywhere else, Chris wasn't ''born'' Chris. Someone ''made'' him that way in those formative years. [[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 06:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I feel like somewhere in this page it should be mentioned how her voice is identical to Chris'. In one prank call video I couldn't tell it was her until she referred to Bob as her husband. [[User:Sallyfox|Sallyfox]] 06:09, 25 December 2009 (CET)

GodJesus damn. Now I can easily see the effects of keeping around a 28 year old autistic manchild for so long. She looked a LOT better (and a lot less like Snorlax) in [[:File:0467-CWC18th20.jpg|this image]]. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 01:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:It may be simply that she, like anyone who would have to put up with somebody like chris, just gave up on life. The picture with Desi pretty much says it all.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 07:05, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== CWCipedia Ad ==
Yeah. You know we need this in there. As well as the image and a space set aside for the reaction that she and Chris will inevitably give. Remember how he reacted when Megan in the original picture was mistaken as Crystal? Well this will induce 10 times the ammount of tard rage. ''From both of them''. Now thats something i'm going to want to see. Who else here wants to see Barbara do a youtube rant? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think you might be jumping the gun. Barbra's nowhere near as dumb or volatile as Chris, I doubt you'll see her on camera anytime soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*I can dream dammit! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
* Chris's reaction to the new ad was an absolute letdown. All he said was to tell us to complain to Mao about the ad and he never even mentioned what kind of ad it was. I had to scroll through '''multiple''' pages, dodging that nasty ass picture just to find it. Thanks a lot for scarring us, whoever the fuck made that. --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 23:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*I think that'll be Mao. Personally I think that its not much more disturbing than CWC's Rule 34 of Mary Lee Walsh. I'm more disturbed by the fact that after he tard raged so hard over the original shecameforCWC being mistaken for Crystal that hes all cool and calm about a huge detailed rendering of him doing the same thing to his elderly mother. And bear in mind that his mother is real, unlike Crystal. I think that says volumes about Chris. And his mother can't be too happy once she finds out, can she? Somehow I don't think he'll ever tell her though. Someone should call the Chandlers and inform them that porn of Barbara has surfaced on Chris's site. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:37, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
* Just wait him out. Speculation is that he might have not noticed the ad--he might have been holding up paper in front of the screen and isn't aware that the ad has changed. He spent 17 minutes making changes to templates, and then quit, which makes me think that he finally saw the image. Also, his last edit was changing a mailbag template--which gives me the feeling that he was about to answer one when he saw the ad. Or he might not have realized that it's supposed to be Snorlax.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
*If he hasn't seen it yet (which is likely given his reaction so far) then I think that we'll be hearing all about this in his next few videos. And for years and years Chris will tell girls that he meets in the mall all about it, and oh the laughs that will be produced. I still think that we can expect some sort of reaction out of Barbara too. If he tells her. He might, given his policy on honesty. However his honesty also dictates that he'll lie about things to keep his parents happy. But mostly only if it benefits him. If he stands to lose from telling his parents then he won't tell them. So I think someone should call the Chandlers and tell them. Break it gently though, lest the lumberjack have another heart attack. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Source is broken. ==

In the citations, the sixth one, a PVCC thread, is not public information. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 20:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

==Is this verifiable?==
I am not adding this yet because it's a pretty huge deal and I want to be 100% on it first. There's a user here-- I wish I could remember who-- whose userpage is full of various observations from people on /cwc/, #sonichu, PVCC etc. One of the posts from PVCC is the note that Chris sometimes sleeps (slept) with his mother. Not having sex. Obviously not. But apparently they'd watch movies together sitting on his bed, and then he'd sort of curl up next to her and fall asleep, with her asleep holding him. At first I couldn't believe it, but this is Chris. And if this is true it absolutely belongs on the page. It's pretty clear he has a strong Oedipal fixation on her (part of being stuck in a childlike state of development) and this makes sense.
I'll go hunt for the quote. In the meantime, can anyone corroborate this? It seems almost a bridge too far even for our manchild. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 10:17, 25 August 2010 (PDT)

:BAM found it. Here we go: "This is something I just learned from Ivy, and this corresponds with what a field agent has confirmed about Chris has seen with Chris getting 'touchy' around Snorlax when Bob isn't looking. It's - Chris likes to sleep with his mother. According to Ivy, what Snorlax will do is come into Chris's room, the two will watch movies and lay down on the bed as Chris holds her, then they both fall asleep. In his bed.They use to do it downstairs on the couch but Bob started bitching about it, telling Chris to grow up and such. Yes, this is very shocking and hard to believe. But considering the prevailing opinion is that Chris wants a mommy he can fuck, this adds a new level to this analysis. [. . .] I mean, Snorlax and Bob don't even sleep in the same room anymore, they've been married for some time and there's usually a point where a marriage becomes more of a friendship, and both Chris and Barb are both human in that they need some intimate contact and affection. But the thing is, while this is normal of small children to want to cuddle with their mothers, it's not fucking normal for 27 year olds to do this. And I think there's actually a period in childhood development (normal one, anyway) where a child learns that they can't have mommy all to themselves but they have to share her with daddy. Looks like Chris never really reached that realization. Freud would have a fucking field day with Chris. Seriously though, I imagine one day we will get Chris confirming this, as he makes a video saying 'Yes, I do sleep with my mother, but what child does not sleep their mothers at some point in their lives?'"
Apparently via Champthom. Champ, can you confirm? Did you say that/is it true? [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 10:22, 25 August 2010 (PDT)
*You know, for some reason this fails to surprise me; It's only natural to expect this kinda behavior from Chris and Snorlax, though it is a bit more stimulating now we have an actual account for it. Awesome find. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 13:29, 25 August 2010 (EST)
*See [[CWCki:PUBLICMEDIA]]. While my source is reliable, my source won't make this statement public and this is otherwise heresay which isn't a very firm evidence. While this is significant, I'd rather see this verified in some public fashion. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:36, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]
[[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:09, 7 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Barbara Chandler

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CFA: /* You are now aware */ new section

Talk:Main Page

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CFA: /* You are now aware */

{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates.}}

'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]] [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|2]]

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT)

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Talk:Main Page

2011-04-07T05:14:16Z

CFA: /* You are now aware */ new section

{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates.}}

'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]] [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|2]]

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT)

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

File:Youarenowaware.jpg

2011-04-07T05:12:47Z

CFA: notice the circle

notice the circle

Talk:Main Page

2011-04-02T02:43:43Z

CFA: /* Ha! */

{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates.}}

'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]] [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|2]]

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT)

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Speech impediment

2011-03-11T01:20:33Z

CFA: /* Symptoms */ cluttering fit's Chris to a T.

[[Chris]] has an unusual manner of speaking, between his strong [[Ruckersville, VA|regional dialect]] and what appear to be genuine impairments.

==History==
Chris's speech impediment appears to have worsened over time. He spoke clearly and normally in his [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|earlier]] videos, while his stuttering and other difficulties have increased significantly since then.

Likely causes include troll-induced [[stress]] and a lack of conversational company not already accustomed to Chris's speaking tendencies.

Chris's problems in verbal communication potentially stem from either the extended period of "muteness" he went through during his childhood (supposedly as a consequence of his treatment by the [[abusive babysitter]]) or his [[autism]], a disorder which often results in speech difficulties. Chris's written communication generally tends to be significantly more coherent and grammatically correct than how he speaks. While writing, he has more time and freedom to determine what he says.

==Non-Symptoms==
Slang such as "Y'all," and "'em," and contracting the "g" of words ending in "-ing" is typical in dialects of the southeastern United States, Chris's native region.

Chris sometimes mispronounces names (such as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]) due to his ignorance of their proper pronunciation rather than impairments in speaking ability.

==Symptoms==
Chris's diction is naturally staggered, interspersed with pauses, deep breaths, "um," "uh," and "hm." The pauses and deep breaths, used in speech therapy, suggest that Chris has had his speech impediment professionally treated at some point. Chris's protracted style of speaking seems to make it easier for him to lose his thought, stray off topic, or forget to include certain segments of his thoughts. However, in the [[Flipnote Hatena|Flipnotes]] he has made, his speech is surprisingly fluent, with no "ums" or "uhs" This fluency is probably because he is being timed to do it, so there's little time to stop.

Chris also has a strong tendency to stutter. Although not the type of "machine-gun" stutter largely associated with the problem, Chris constantly has to repeat whole phrases, and he stumbles over certain phrases as he finds the correct words to best convey his ideas. This also could be because Chris finds the need to correct himself, and finds repetition to be the optimal way to deal with this. Ofte- usually this resu- this resu- thi- th- this ends up in Chris having to rei- repe- this ends up in Chris having to shuffle through many synonyms just to express a brief statement.

During the conversation with [[Kacey]]'s dad, Chris claimed to pause before speaking in order to "spellcheck" what he is saying. This implies that Chris needs to consciously plan what he is going to say or else he is unable to say it; this suggests that Chris's difficulty with speech stems from poor contact between the speech centers of his brain and his cerebellum, a common characteristic of [[autism]]. Ironically, Chris clearly [[Chris and Writing|doesn't spellcheck his ''written'' work.]]

Like small children, Chris has a tendency to speak too quickly, run words into one another, and slur words. For example, Chris's pronunciation of "[[Encyclopedia Dramatica|Ensykapeia Dramakka paysh]]".

Chris sometimes mixes up the pieces of multiple word phrases, resulting in [[wikipedia:spoonerism|statements]] like "rell-wested." <ref>[[Ode to Julie]]</ref>

Chris has difficulty pronouncing the letter "X" (/ks/ or /gz/), as well as related consonantal digraphs (/sk/, /st/), pronouncing it either as an "/s/" sound (elision) or as a "/t͡s/" sound (fronting). In addition, he pronounces the voiced "th" sound (/ð/) as "d", even when it's not deliberate (as in "da" standing in for "the"). This indicates trouble with consonants, known as [[wikipedia:Speech-Language_Pathology_in_School_Settings#Articulation_disorders|articulation disorders]].

However, given the above, it is most likely he has [[wikipedia:cluttering|tachyphemia]]. This explains most of his speech and grammar usage.

==Sauces==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Chris and English]]

[[Category:Physical characteristics]]

Chris and health

2011-03-11T01:07:30Z

CFA: /* Mental health */

{{quote|Eat less cow meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and Fruit are a must; Walking or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|Chris' [[Chris and Hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_2</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|Chris in a few years.]]
[[Chris]], as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine could plainly see, is not in good '''health'''. Considering his [[obesity]], lack of exercise, poor nutrition, refusal to bathe, and the grave disrepair/uncleanliness of his [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life threatening medical problems such as cancer, heart disease or type 2 diabetes.

==Nutrition==
{{main|Obesity}}
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|left|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of this word]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily.]]
Chris is a known fast food lover, eating either [[McDonald's]] or [[Burger King]] (usually with his [[Bob Chandler|father]]) at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to four times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely.

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took home-ec classes in school and that he owns cook books.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti in a YouTube video (an incredibly basic dish), he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead made microwaved spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwavable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

Many, many times, has Chris been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. This suggests that Chris never drinks water, and that he drinks a lot of [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and [[semen|energy drinks]] (which have been proven to increase erratic behavior). His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* Breakfast: Usually nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but on the rare occasion he does eat McDonald's, or some other fast food restaurant with breakfast options.
* Lunch: Something quick at home, or fast food, either alone or with his father.
* Dinner: Eat out with family (fast food) or poorly-cooked/microwave meal.

In addition, it is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his [[Dirty crapped briefs|fecal incontinence]] (the other one being [[Homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|ramming stuff in his shit tube]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence;<ref>[[Wikipedia:Fecal_incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia]]</ref> casually, it happens that Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no vegetables or fruit is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how many years.

In short, Chris is a fatty, he denies it, and his food makes him shit himself.

It seems that his diet has finally caught up with him, as it was revealed in the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s father that Chris's doctor has prescribed him [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. Chris claims that he stopped taking the drug in the fall of [[2009]], but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the conversation) is uncertain.

===Places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[Country Cookin]]
* [[McDonalds]]
* [[Golden Corral]](Has closed it's doors in Charlottesville)
* [[Chick-fil-A]]
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]

==Exercise==

<center>{{#ev:youtube|c7BcDvftwhI}}</center>

{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and Powerful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[Manchester High School|high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[video games]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise. <ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref>Needless to say Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere thirty seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to [[I AM STRONG|flexing]] and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting an office chair and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could defeat both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should it to come to blows, and as such has challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is, he's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWCFighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to get his wish and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog five miles (8 km) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in the video [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take six breaks to catch his breath, whereas with a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.
{{clear}}

==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21 http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}
[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|Did you bathe? *SPOILER* No]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris marinates in his own filth.]]

Chris's hygiene is perhaps his worst quality. Many times has Chris regarded [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower. According to [[Emily]], he smelled of "rotten watermelons;" [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said body odor masked with gallons of Axe. Chris compounds this problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for as long as a week at a stretch.

Unless being immersed in his surroundings for so long has destroyed his ability to note his foul vapors, it's a marvel that Chris refuses to indulge in basic hygienic activities. Most likely, it's because time spent in the shower is time not spent playing video games, drawing terrible comics, or stalking young ladies. If he showered regularly, his -45% chance of finding a [[boyfriend-free girl]] would erupt all the way up to 0%.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[the GAMe PLACe]], and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he keeps a bottle on hand at all times.

{{clear}}

==Dental health==
[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|right|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Now that's [[honest content]]!]]
Chris's fondness for baring his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, expensive dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell, in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is the result of large consumption of [[My Coke Rewards|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his ego|narcissism]].
{{clear}}
==Mental health==

[[Chris and psychology|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto). Chris is so very, very screwed up that it's impossible to tell if he's really mentally ill or just that much of a waste of space.

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most, even more than his autism, is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him such a frustrating failure of a human being—he refuses to advance mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics.

His social awkwardness, narcissism, and several other unwanted traits trace back to his inept parents, who spoil him and tell him life will be all sugar and [[rainbow]]s. It is quite possible that Chris doesn't feel like his life has truly begun, that he is still in the "pre-adult" years—this could be related to Chris still being a [[virgin]], and a possible belief, subconscious or otherwise, that he isn't able to truly be an adult until he has sex. Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world, as well as basic feelings such as empathy, sympathy and humility. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internets), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[dildo]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara#Pampering_of_Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. This might simply [[Barbara]] telling her son what all mother's tell their kids.
* He has an inability to remember faces. For example, during the [[Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic8Page24.jpg ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Many people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However…]]

==Sexual health==

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref>

'''SPOILER ALERT:''' He doesn't have any for [[virgin with rage|obvious reasons]].

Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly Peyronie's disease), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably, thankfully, never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive, and Chris has other, more important things on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

His voice is also a very [[speech Impediment|severe deformity]], ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[Asperger's syndrome]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone. In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction, which such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. With enough isolation, this will most likely become permanent for the rest of his life. His whole good, ten years if he's lucky, life.

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref>. Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Obesity]]

==Sauce==
<references/>
{{Chris and}}

Chris and health

2011-03-11T01:06:14Z

CFA: /* Mental health */

{{quote|Eat less cow meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and Fruit are a must; Walking or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|Chris' [[Chris and Hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_2</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|Chris in a few years.]]
[[Chris]], as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine could plainly see, is not in good '''health'''. Considering his [[obesity]], lack of exercise, poor nutrition, refusal to bathe, and the grave disrepair/uncleanliness of his [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life threatening medical problems such as cancer, heart disease or type 2 diabetes.

==Nutrition==
{{main|Obesity}}
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|left|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of this word]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily.]]
Chris is a known fast food lover, eating either [[McDonald's]] or [[Burger King]] (usually with his [[Bob Chandler|father]]) at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to four times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely.

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took home-ec classes in school and that he owns cook books.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti in a YouTube video (an incredibly basic dish), he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead made microwaved spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwavable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

Many, many times, has Chris been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. This suggests that Chris never drinks water, and that he drinks a lot of [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and [[semen|energy drinks]] (which have been proven to increase erratic behavior). His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* Breakfast: Usually nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but on the rare occasion he does eat McDonald's, or some other fast food restaurant with breakfast options.
* Lunch: Something quick at home, or fast food, either alone or with his father.
* Dinner: Eat out with family (fast food) or poorly-cooked/microwave meal.

In addition, it is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his [[Dirty crapped briefs|fecal incontinence]] (the other one being [[Homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|ramming stuff in his shit tube]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence;<ref>[[Wikipedia:Fecal_incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia]]</ref> casually, it happens that Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no vegetables or fruit is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how many years.

In short, Chris is a fatty, he denies it, and his food makes him shit himself.

It seems that his diet has finally caught up with him, as it was revealed in the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s father that Chris's doctor has prescribed him [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. Chris claims that he stopped taking the drug in the fall of [[2009]], but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the conversation) is uncertain.

===Places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[Country Cookin]]
* [[McDonalds]]
* [[Golden Corral]](Has closed it's doors in Charlottesville)
* [[Chick-fil-A]]
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]

==Exercise==

<center>{{#ev:youtube|c7BcDvftwhI}}</center>

{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and Powerful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[Manchester High School|high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[video games]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise. <ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref>Needless to say Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere thirty seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to [[I AM STRONG|flexing]] and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting an office chair and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could defeat both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should it to come to blows, and as such has challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is, he's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWCFighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to get his wish and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog five miles (8 km) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in the video [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take six breaks to catch his breath, whereas with a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.
{{clear}}

==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21 http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}
[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|Did you bathe? *SPOILER* No]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris marinates in his own filth.]]

Chris's hygiene is perhaps his worst quality. Many times has Chris regarded [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower. According to [[Emily]], he smelled of "rotten watermelons;" [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said body odor masked with gallons of Axe. Chris compounds this problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for as long as a week at a stretch.

Unless being immersed in his surroundings for so long has destroyed his ability to note his foul vapors, it's a marvel that Chris refuses to indulge in basic hygienic activities. Most likely, it's because time spent in the shower is time not spent playing video games, drawing terrible comics, or stalking young ladies. If he showered regularly, his -45% chance of finding a [[boyfriend-free girl]] would erupt all the way up to 0%.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[the GAMe PLACe]], and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he keeps a bottle on hand at all times.

{{clear}}

==Dental health==
[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|right|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Now that's [[honest content]]!]]
Chris's fondness for baring his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, expensive dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell, in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is the result of large consumption of [[My Coke Rewards|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his ego|narcissism]].
{{clear}}
==Mental health==

[[Chris and psychology|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto). Chris is so very, very screwed up that it's impossible to tell if he's really mentally ill or just that much of a waste of space.

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most, even more than his autism, is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him such a frustrating failure of a human being—he refuses to advance mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics.

His social awkwardness, narcissism, and several other unwanted traits trace back to his inept parents, who spoil him and tell him life will be all sugar and [[rainbow]]s. It is quite possible that Chris doesn't feel like his life has truly begun, that he is still in the "pre-adult" years—this could be related to Chris still being a [[virgin]], and a possible belief, subconscious or otherwise, that he isn't able to truly be an adult until he has sex. Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world, as well as basic feelings such as empathy, sympathy and humility. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internets), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[dildo]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara#Pampering_of_Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. This might simply [[Barbara]]telling her son what all mother's tell their kids.
* He has an inability to remember faces. For example, during the [[Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic8Page24.jpg ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Many people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However…]]

==Sexual health==

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref>

'''SPOILER ALERT:''' He doesn't have any for [[virgin with rage|obvious reasons]].

Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly Peyronie's disease), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably, thankfully, never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive, and Chris has other, more important things on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

His voice is also a very [[speech Impediment|severe deformity]], ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[Asperger's syndrome]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone. In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction, which such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. With enough isolation, this will most likely become permanent for the rest of his life. His whole good, ten years if he's lucky, life.

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref>. Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Obesity]]

==Sauce==
<references/>
{{Chris and}}

Chris and health

2011-03-11T01:03:11Z

CFA: /* Mental health */

{{quote|Eat less cow meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and Fruit are a must; Walking or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|Chris' [[Chris and Hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_2</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|Chris in a few years.]]
[[Chris]], as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine could plainly see, is not in good '''health'''. Considering his [[obesity]], lack of exercise, poor nutrition, refusal to bathe, and the grave disrepair/uncleanliness of his [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life threatening medical problems such as cancer, heart disease or type 2 diabetes.

==Nutrition==
{{main|Obesity}}
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|left|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of this word]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily.]]
Chris is a known fast food lover, eating either [[McDonald's]] or [[Burger King]] (usually with his [[Bob Chandler|father]]) at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to four times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely.

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took home-ec classes in school and that he owns cook books.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti in a YouTube video (an incredibly basic dish), he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead made microwaved spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwavable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

Many, many times, has Chris been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. This suggests that Chris never drinks water, and that he drinks a lot of [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and [[semen|energy drinks]] (which have been proven to increase erratic behavior). His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* Breakfast: Usually nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but on the rare occasion he does eat McDonald's, or some other fast food restaurant with breakfast options.
* Lunch: Something quick at home, or fast food, either alone or with his father.
* Dinner: Eat out with family (fast food) or poorly-cooked/microwave meal.

In addition, it is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his [[Dirty crapped briefs|fecal incontinence]] (the other one being [[Homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|ramming stuff in his shit tube]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence;<ref>[[Wikipedia:Fecal_incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia]]</ref> casually, it happens that Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no vegetables or fruit is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how many years.

In short, Chris is a fatty, he denies it, and his food makes him shit himself.

It seems that his diet has finally caught up with him, as it was revealed in the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s father that Chris's doctor has prescribed him [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. Chris claims that he stopped taking the drug in the fall of [[2009]], but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the conversation) is uncertain.

===Places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[Country Cookin]]
* [[McDonalds]]
* [[Golden Corral]](Has closed it's doors in Charlottesville)
* [[Chick-fil-A]]
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]

==Exercise==

<center>{{#ev:youtube|c7BcDvftwhI}}</center>

{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and Powerful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[Manchester High School|high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[video games]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise. <ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref>Needless to say Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere thirty seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to [[I AM STRONG|flexing]] and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting an office chair and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could defeat both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should it to come to blows, and as such has challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is, he's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWCFighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to get his wish and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog five miles (8 km) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in the video [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take six breaks to catch his breath, whereas with a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.
{{clear}}

==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21 http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}
[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|Did you bathe? *SPOILER* No]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris marinates in his own filth.]]

Chris's hygiene is perhaps his worst quality. Many times has Chris regarded [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower. According to [[Emily]], he smelled of "rotten watermelons;" [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said body odor masked with gallons of Axe. Chris compounds this problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for as long as a week at a stretch.

Unless being immersed in his surroundings for so long has destroyed his ability to note his foul vapors, it's a marvel that Chris refuses to indulge in basic hygienic activities. Most likely, it's because time spent in the shower is time not spent playing video games, drawing terrible comics, or stalking young ladies. If he showered regularly, his -45% chance of finding a [[boyfriend-free girl]] would erupt all the way up to 0%.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[the GAMe PLACe]], and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he keeps a bottle on hand at all times.

{{clear}}

==Dental health==
[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|right|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Now that's [[honest content]]!]]
Chris's fondness for baring his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, expensive dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell, in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is the result of large consumption of [[My Coke Rewards|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his ego|narcissism]].
{{clear}}
==Mental health==

[[Chris and psychology|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto). Chris is so very, very screwed up that it's impossible to tell if he's really mentally ill or just that much of a waste of space.

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most, even more than his autism, is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him such a frustrating failure of a human being—he refuses to advance mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics.

His social awkwardness, narcissism, and several other unwanted traits trace back to his inept parents, who spoil him and tell him life will be all sugar and [[rainbow]]s. It is quite possible that Chris doesn't feel like his life has truly begun, that he is still in the "pre-adult" years—this could be related to Chris still being a [[virgin]], and a possible belief, subconscious or otherwise, that he isn't able to truly be an adult until he has sex. Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world, as well as basic feelings such as empathy, sympathy and humility. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internets), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[dildo]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara#Pampering_of_Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. This might simply [[Barbara|telling her son what all mother's tell their kids.]]
* He has an inability to remember faces. For example, during the [[Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic8Page24.jpg ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Many people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However…]]

==Sexual health==

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref>

'''SPOILER ALERT:''' He doesn't have any for [[virgin with rage|obvious reasons]].

Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly Peyronie's disease), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably, thankfully, never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive, and Chris has other, more important things on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

His voice is also a very [[speech Impediment|severe deformity]], ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[Asperger's syndrome]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone. In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction, which such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. With enough isolation, this will most likely become permanent for the rest of his life. His whole good, ten years if he's lucky, life.

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref>. Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Obesity]]

==Sauce==
<references/>
{{Chris and}}

Chris and health

2011-03-11T00:55:45Z

CFA: /* Places where Chris likes to eat */ Golden Corral is out of buisness in cville

{{quote|Eat less cow meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and Fruit are a must; Walking or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|Chris' [[Chris and Hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_2</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|Chris in a few years.]]
[[Chris]], as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine could plainly see, is not in good '''health'''. Considering his [[obesity]], lack of exercise, poor nutrition, refusal to bathe, and the grave disrepair/uncleanliness of his [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life threatening medical problems such as cancer, heart disease or type 2 diabetes.

==Nutrition==
{{main|Obesity}}
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|left|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of this word]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily.]]
Chris is a known fast food lover, eating either [[McDonald's]] or [[Burger King]] (usually with his [[Bob Chandler|father]]) at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to four times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely.

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took home-ec classes in school and that he owns cook books.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti in a YouTube video (an incredibly basic dish), he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead made microwaved spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwavable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

Many, many times, has Chris been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. This suggests that Chris never drinks water, and that he drinks a lot of [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and [[semen|energy drinks]] (which have been proven to increase erratic behavior). His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* Breakfast: Usually nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but on the rare occasion he does eat McDonald's, or some other fast food restaurant with breakfast options.
* Lunch: Something quick at home, or fast food, either alone or with his father.
* Dinner: Eat out with family (fast food) or poorly-cooked/microwave meal.

In addition, it is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his [[Dirty crapped briefs|fecal incontinence]] (the other one being [[Homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|ramming stuff in his shit tube]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence;<ref>[[Wikipedia:Fecal_incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia]]</ref> casually, it happens that Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no vegetables or fruit is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how many years.

In short, Chris is a fatty, he denies it, and his food makes him shit himself.

It seems that his diet has finally caught up with him, as it was revealed in the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s father that Chris's doctor has prescribed him [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. Chris claims that he stopped taking the drug in the fall of [[2009]], but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the conversation) is uncertain.

===Places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[Country Cookin]]
* [[McDonalds]]
* [[Golden Corral]](Has closed it's doors in Charlottesville)
* [[Chick-fil-A]]
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]

==Exercise==

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{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and Powerful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[Manchester High School|high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[video games]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise. <ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref>Needless to say Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere thirty seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to [[I AM STRONG|flexing]] and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting an office chair and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could defeat both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should it to come to blows, and as such has challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is, he's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWCFighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to get his wish and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog five miles (8 km) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in the video [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take six breaks to catch his breath, whereas with a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.
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==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21 http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}
[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|Did you bathe? *SPOILER* No]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris marinates in his own filth.]]

Chris's hygiene is perhaps his worst quality. Many times has Chris regarded [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower. According to [[Emily]], he smelled of "rotten watermelons;" [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said body odor masked with gallons of Axe. Chris compounds this problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for as long as a week at a stretch.

Unless being immersed in his surroundings for so long has destroyed his ability to note his foul vapors, it's a marvel that Chris refuses to indulge in basic hygienic activities. Most likely, it's because time spent in the shower is time not spent playing video games, drawing terrible comics, or stalking young ladies. If he showered regularly, his -45% chance of finding a [[boyfriend-free girl]] would erupt all the way up to 0%.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[the GAMe PLACe]], and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he keeps a bottle on hand at all times.

{{clear}}

==Dental health==
[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|right|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Now that's [[honest content]]!]]
Chris's fondness for baring his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, expensive dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell, in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is the result of large consumption of [[My Coke Rewards|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his ego|narcissism]].
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==Mental health==

[[Chris and psychology|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto). Chris is so very, very screwed up that it's impossible to tell if he's really mentally ill or just that much of a waste of space.

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most, even more than his autism, is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him such a frustrating failure of a human being—he refuses to advance mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics.

His social awkwardness, narcissism, and several other unwanted traits trace back to his inept parents, who spoil him and tell him life will be all sugar and [[rainbow]]s. It is quite possible that Chris doesn't feel like his life has truly begun, that he is still in the "pre-adult" years—this could be related to Chris still being a [[virgin]], and a possible belief, subconscious or otherwise, that he isn't able to truly be an adult until he has sex. Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world, as well as basic feelings such as empathy, sympathy and humility. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internets), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[dildo]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara#Pampering_of_Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. As his mother, we will accept motherly bias as a mitigating factor in these statements.
* He has an inability to remember faces. For example, during the [[Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic8Page24.jpg ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Many people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However…]]

==Sexual health==

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref>

'''SPOILER ALERT:''' He doesn't have any for [[virgin with rage|obvious reasons]].

Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly Peyronie's disease), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably, thankfully, never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive, and Chris has other, more important things on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

His voice is also a very [[speech Impediment|severe deformity]], ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[Asperger's syndrome]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone. In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction, which such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. With enough isolation, this will most likely become permanent for the rest of his life. His whole good, ten years if he's lucky, life.

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref>. Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Obesity]]

==Sauce==
<references/>
{{Chris and}}

Talk:Cwcsicle

2011-03-07T02:04:05Z

CFA: /* Full version? */

WHAT THE FUCK WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?! Is this recent, or old but just leaked?![[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 19:06, 2 March 2011 (PST)
* Judging from the amount snow, it was probably more recent than the 2010 blizzard, but not from within the last month. There's no snow in the region right now. Last December and last January are the most likely dates. We had accumulated snowfall several times, especially in January. [[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 19:14, 2 March 2011 (PST)
** I went back and checked, unless the leak confirms otherwise, I'd place this sometime shortly after January 26's snow storm. [[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 19:22, 2 March 2011 (PST)
::*Uh, this is like a year old, it just got released now.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:28, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:::* Damn.[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 19:34, 2 March 2011 (PST)
Just wanted to say that the word Cwcsicle is the funniest thing I've heard all day[[User:Killyouareself|Killyouareself]] 19:25, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Anybody think this could be connected to any Sagas? [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]], 22:46 EST, 2 March 2011
*No, as [[Tito]] said on [[Krapple|/cwc/]], essentially what Chris did was submit this to Jackass in regards to their then recent movie in hopes he'd get on Jackass.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:54, 2 March 2011 (PST)
I spy the Sonichu Medallion. [[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 00:54, 3 March 2011 (EST)

I cannot imagine a more appropriate use for WHY.jpg [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 22:38, 2 March 2011 (PST)

...I don't understand.... WHY did he do this? It says to get on tv... but is it known WHY he thought this would get him on tv (troll/'sweetheart')?! And (I'm a girl so correct me if I'm wrong...) but wouldn't IT fall off or get serious damage from being in the snow for 15 minutes? If so...is it possible that Chris actually pulled it out of the snow between camera shoots? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 22:40, 2 March 2011 (PST)
* Heh, no, it wouldn't fall off. It would present the danger of a frostbite, however, like with any other body part. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 22:49, 2 March 2011 (PST)
** Yeah, it wouldn't fall off, but it sure as fuck isn't a good idea. I can see why one might think he pulled his ding-dong out between shots (after all, that barely chronicled a whole fifteenth of the alleged dickfreezing) but judging by the fact that his nob was bright red on the fourth video, I'd say he was at least mostly true to his word. --[[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 23:20, 2 March 2011 (PST)
*** I can shed some light on frostbite. His skin turning that bright red color meant he was in the beginning stages of frostbite. It means that the water in his skin, cells, and blood vessels were going to die, dry up, and everything would start turning a pale blue/black color. Frostbite sets in rather quickly when bare skin is exposed to freezing temperatures, and the human body just cannot deal with that kind of cold. Chris basically made his body re-circulate the blood around to the core of his body to keep his vital organs warm since his nether region being exposed to freezing temperatures, so the blood rushes away to keep his core temperature warm. What Chris did was extremely stupid, and very dangerous.--[[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 02:57 March 3, 2011 (EST).

notice that he starts saying "KIDS this is something you don't try at home", but cuts himself off and says "EVERYBODY" instead because he realizes it's creepy that he's showing his dick to kids, oh that chris [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 13:28, 3 March 2011 (PST)

== Add videos ==

Do we actually want to add the clips? Or just leave it as a download? If posted video is wanted, I can try to do it though I'm not 100% sure I know how (though I do have them downloaded). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 23:36, 2 March 2011 (PST)

* I'm no gaybian, but to be honest, this deserves to be put up for Chris even filming this. He's really fucking stupid, but even I didn't think he would do something like this. I would put up a warning disclaimer for the faint at heart though. But I say troll away good sir. Would be awesome if Chris saw this on the CWCki, serves him right.--[[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 03:04 March 3rd, 2011 (EST)
:: If there's a second to this I'll try and upload the mini-clip sections....I think I know how to do it now... maybe :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 00:08, 3 March 2011 (PST)

** The big problem is: where do we host 100_2126? If we tried putting that up on YouTube, we'd get in trouble with the site. --[[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 08:02, 3 March 2011 (PST)
::Can't someone censor out his penis like they did in FlyingElephant? [[User:Nhocgreen|Nhocgreen]] 08:14, 3 March 2011 (PST)
:::I say censor the penis out for youtuve and then someone take a screencap of the Cwcsicle for the article. You might be able to upload this to a site like xtube and just label it as a snow fetish. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 12:01, 3 March 2011 (PST)meeko
::::I control Chris' Xtube account, so let me know and I'll upload it there. If you can even embed from Xtube. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 13:53, 3 March 2011 (PST)

== Time/date changing ==

"If there's one clock you can not change, it's the one on your cell phone"

Right. He owns a Motorola W315 on either Verizon or nTelos (most likely nTelos due to the coverage, region, and because he's shit poor after spending his tugboat). Most Motorola phones have the magical setting called ''Autoupdate'', and it can be turned off and manual time can be set therein. I'm not saying he's smart enough to know how to do this, but it could be possible if he was indeed trying to bullshit us (which it seems like he isn't and instead being an idiot as usual). [[User:Dragonfli|Dragonfli]] 13:30, 3 March 2011 (PST)

*I should point out that he is wearing the medallion, which should raise a couple eyebrows for sure (I saw him wearing it a couple months back at my work but no one believed me). The question is, why is he wearing it now after so long without it? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:02, 3 March 2011 (PST)CFA
**This video is over a year old, back when he was still sporting the medallion.

== Full version? ==

*The one on here is the SFW verision. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:04, 4 March 2011 (PST)CFA

:*This was a point I was going to make, namely that having this SFW version is misleading to those who might not otherwise realize that there's NSFW content in the video. I suppose it can go back in but I think for other NSFW videos, we just link them and not put in SFW videos.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:39, 5 March 2011 (PST)
::* Ya, having the sfw link is either redundant or misleading. Can't someone upload it to X tube or something?[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:04, 6 March 2011 (PST)CFA

Talk:Cwcsicle

2011-03-05T05:04:19Z

CFA: /* Full version? */ new section

Talk:Cwcsicle

2011-03-04T02:02:40Z

CFA: /* Time/date changing */

Talk:Main Page

2011-02-28T02:28:48Z

CFA: /* Not sure if it goes here but */

Talk:Main Page

2011-02-26T03:30:12Z

CFA: /* Not sure if it goes here but */ new section

List of restaurants

2011-01-29T05:57:42Z

CFA: /* Golden Corral */

{{taxpayermoney}}
[[Chris]] isn't much of a cook, nor is anyone else currently living at [[14 Branchland Court]]. When he's not eating reheated frozen dinners, he's usually chowing down at a variety of local '''restaurants'''.

==McDonald's==
{{main|McDonald's}}
Chris's cheap-and-easy fast food of choice. When he wanted to cut down on his Big Mac and McNugget intake, he stopped eating there...more than twice a week or so.

== Burger King ==
{{main|Burger King}}
Chris favors McDonald's, while [[Bob]] prefers its rival Burger King. Thus, Chris appears to usually eat here when he's out with his father.

== Chick-fil-A ==

[[Image:ChickFilA.jpg|thumb|right|Admittedly, the store might've been a [[Chris and writing|literary influence.]]]]

'''Chick-fil-A''' is a fast-food restaurant chain originating in the American south that Chris frequents, famous for its chicken sandwiches and always being closed on Sundays (due to their founder's Christian "seventh day of rest" beliefs). Reputedly one of the most 'healthy' fast food options;<ref>http://health.yahoo.com/experts/eatthis/11230/americas-bestand-worstrestaurants</ref> however, Chris has mentioned it much less often than its [[Chris and health|artery-clogging]] big brother, [[McDonald's]].

Possibly its lack of marketing campaigns aimed at children and foolish sweepstakes or [[My Coke Rewards|"reward programs"]] keep Chick-fil-A from maintaining the loyalty of creepy loitering manchildren. Thus, [[Chris]] has never been banned from a Chick-fil-A in an [[Sonichu 3#Sub-Episode 4: Christian Chandler in "McAttack"|epic showdown]] battling [[jerkops]].

===Appearances===
*Chris met up with [[Emily]] in front of the Chick-fil-A at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]. [[Apology to Emily|Or at least tried to by calling out to the patrons (who were undoubtedly amused and perplexed)]].

*The Fashion Square Chick-fil-A was the site of one of the missed meetings between Chris and [[Surfshack Tito]]'s agents during the drama over destroying Chris's [[PS3]].

*The [[CWCville Shopping Center]] includes a lone Chick-Fil-A on the 2nd floor.

== Country Cookin ==

'''Country Cookin''', spelled without a "G" or an apostrophe (oh, those wacky rednecks) is [[Christian]]'s not-quite-fast-food restaurant of choice. It is a Virginia-based chain of rustic steak house/buffet and grill restaurants, akin to [[Golden Corral]], ''Roadhouse Grill'' or ''Ponderosa/Bonanza Steakhouse'' in the US, and ''Harvester'', ''Beefeater'' or ''Brewer's Fayre'' in the [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|United Kingdom]].

He has mentioned it on several occasions and even has taken his troll friend [[Joshua Martinez]] there.

===References by Chris===
* In an e-mail conversation with [[Anna McLerran]] from 2007, Chris mentioned his regular trips to the restaurant with Joshua.
* In [[Mumble 2]], Chris mentioned Country Cookin as one of his favorite restaurants.
* A Country Cookin branch is located in the [[CWCville Shopping Center]].

== Golden Corral ==

'''Golden Corral''' is an all-you-can-eat buffet chain, well-known in the American south and midwest as ''the'' place to go for a maximum ratio of calories consumed to cash expended. Just don't think too much about where it all came from. It's one of Chris's favorite places to eat, probably since he can [[obesity|stuff his face]] with fatty, low quality food at a [[Chris and money|low price]]. Currently out of business and has been replaced by a japanese buffet.

===References by Chris===
*[[Caitlin]], a waitress Chris had a crush on for a day or so, worked at Golden Corral.
*In [[Mumble 2]], he mentioned that it's one of his favorite places to eat.
*Describing his ideal date spots in an [[IRC (18 December 2008)|IRC chat]], Chris proposed Golden Corral as a second-date destination.
*Chris's visits to the Corral with his family seem to be tightly scheduled. In a [[MySpace]] conversation from 04 September 2005, he noted that they'd be there from 3:30 to 4:45 the next day.
*Perhaps because of that precise schedule, or perhaps because he was simply overwhelmed by [[stress]], during his final [[BlueSpike Skype Logs 13|Skype conversation with BlueSpike]] Chris unexpectedly abandoned the conversation to take off for the Corral.
*In his profile at [[The Hook Cafe]] he lists it as his favorite restaurant.

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[[Chris]] isn't much of a cook, nor is anyone else currently living at [[14 Branchland Court]]. When he's not eating reheated frozen dinners, he's usually chowing down at a variety of local '''restaurants'''.

==McDonald's==
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Chris's cheap-and-easy fast food of choice. When he wanted to cut down on his Big Mac and McNugget intake, he stopped eating there...more than twice a week or so.

== Burger King ==
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Chris favors McDonald's, while [[Bob]] prefers its rival Burger King. Thus, Chris appears to usually eat here when he's out with his father.

== Chick-fil-A ==

[[Image:ChickFilA.jpg|thumb|right|Admittedly, the store might've been a [[Chris and writing|literary influence.]]]]

'''Chick-fil-A''' is a fast-food restaurant chain originating in the American south that Chris frequents, famous for its chicken sandwiches and always being closed on Sundays (due to their Christian "seventh day of rest" beliefs). Reputedly one of the most 'healthy' fast food options;<ref>http://health.yahoo.com/experts/eatthis/11230/americas-bestand-worstrestaurants</ref> however, Chris has mentioned it much less often than its [[Chris and health|artery-clogging]] big brother, [[McDonald's]].

Possibly its lack of marketing campaigns aimed at children and foolish sweepstakes or [[My Coke Rewards|"reward programs"]] keep Chick-fil-A from maintaining the loyalty of creepy loitering manchildren. Thus, [[Chris]] has never been banned from a Chick-fil-A in an [[Sonichu 3#Sub-Episode 4: Christian Chandler in "McAttack"|epic showdown]] battling [[jerkops]].

===Appearances===
*Chris met up with [[Emily]] in front of the Chick-fil-A at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]. [[Apology to Emily|Or at least tried to by calling out to the patrons (who were undoubtedly amused and perplexed)]].

*The Fashion Square Chick-fil-A was the site of one of the missed meetings between Chris and [[Surfshack Tito]]'s agents during the drama over destroying Chris's [[PS3]].

*The [[CWCville Shopping Center]] includes a lone Chick-Fil-A on the 2nd floor.

== Country Cookin ==

'''Country Cookin''', spelled without a "G" or an apostrophe (oh, those wacky rednecks) is [[Christian]]'s not-quite-fast-food restaurant of choice. It is a Virginia-based chain of rustic steak house/buffet and grill restaurants, akin to [[Golden Corral]], ''Roadhouse Grill'' or ''Ponderosa/Bonanza Steakhouse'' in the US, and ''Harvester'', ''Beefeater'' or ''Brewer's Fayre'' in the [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|United Kingdom]].

He has mentioned it on several occasions and even has taken his troll friend [[Joshua Martinez]] there.

===References by Chris===
* In an e-mail conversation with [[Anna McLerran]] from 2007, Chris mentioned his regular trips to the restaurant with Joshua.
* In [[Mumble 2]], Chris mentioned Country Cookin as one of his favorite restaurants.
* A Country Cookin branch is located in the [[CWCville Shopping Center]].

== Golden Corral ==

'''Golden Corral''' is an all-you-can-eat buffet chain, well-known in the American south and midwest as ''the'' place to go for a maximum ratio of calories consumed to cash expended. Just don't think too much about where it all came from. It's one of Chris's favorite places to eat, probably since he can [[obesity|stuff his face]] with fatty, low quality food at a [[Chris and money|low price]].

===References by Chris===
*[[Caitlin]], a waitress Chris had a crush on for a day or so, worked at Golden Corral.
*In [[Mumble 2]], he mentioned that it's one of his favorite places to eat.
*Describing his ideal date spots in an [[IRC (18 December 2008)|IRC chat]], Chris proposed Golden Corral as a second-date destination.
*Chris's visits to the Corral with his family seem to be tightly scheduled. In a [[MySpace]] conversation from 04 September 2005, he noted that they'd be there from 3:30 to 4:45 the next day.
*Perhaps because of that precise schedule, or perhaps because he was simply overwhelmed by [[stress]], during his final [[BlueSpike Skype Logs 13|Skype conversation with BlueSpike]] Chris unexpectedly abandoned the conversation to take off for the Corral.
*In his profile at [[The Hook Cafe]] he lists it as his favorite restaurant.

====Sidenote====
*[http://www2.dailyprogress.com/news/cdp-news-local/2010/jun/11/golden_corral_to_close_doors-ar-319488/ Golden Corral shuts it's doors]It is unknown at this time if Chris's gorging was at cause.

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