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Talk:A-Logs

2017-11-17T02:14:11Z

Camille:

It's a start, but it could be a lot better. I'm only vaguely familiar with A-Log myself, so I'm not sure how much I could do to fix the article. While I don't want this to turn into an Encylopedia Dramatica article about A-Log himself, we need more direct comparisons to him and his actions to fully illustrate why this is discouraged.

If I might make a suggestion Champ, (and this is the only time I will ever say this), I think that this is something we'd need the /cwc/fags' help with. They're the ones who discovered A-Log, know everything about him, wrote his actual ED page, and let's be honest here; When you say the "broader CWC community", that's mostly referring to /cwc/. Why not go over there and put up an invite for them to help us define Alogging and educate the newfags? At the very least we might get some decent quotes from the anons explaining it a bit.

Just a suggestion. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:03, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

A couple of points...

:1) "Chris's discomfort for black people [...] is arguably more from failing to understand social norms in that you don't announce to the world you're discomforted by African American rather than of the ideology of white supremacy that your average KKK member would have"

:While I'm no Alogger or anything I think that his attitude toward blacks (and Jews) goes beyond merely not wanting to have sex with their women. Just at look at the way [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|he uses the n-word]]. Also let's not forget [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]. Also according to Mimms and Lucas Chris was always worrying that the black kids at the game place would try to steal his stuff, defintely a racist.

:His hatred toward homosexuals most definitely goes beyond regular homophobia. The casual American homophobe does not [[Mailbag 49#Chris loves his country|supports the repeal of DADT so more homos can die]] nor does he wish to [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|prevent them from buying certain brands of body spray]]. A typical homophobes does not wish to have homosexuals locked up and forced into reparative therapy either (I'm too lazy to dig up the chat where he advocates that but it's somewhere here on the wiki).

:Now granted, these are not good reasons for inflicting boddily harm upon Chris. He's too much of a pussy to commit hate crimes, too much of a lazy ass to go and harass people Westboro Baptist style and lacks any political clout to make his hare braind ideas a reality, but I still think that you're understimating his bigotry.

:2) Another argument that I can see aloggers using to justify their attitude toawrd Chris is his lawbreaking. I think that the best counterarguments would be: A) Chris's offenses are relatively minor and most aloggers would not wish physical harm upon a person other than Chris who has the same rapsheet. B) While Chris needs to be punished for his crimes, we already have the legal system for it and it's doing [[28 October 2011#Chris's|a bang up job]]. C) By advocating intentional infliction of bodily harm upon Chris, aloggers are being worse than him by supporting crimes far worse (both from a moral and legal standpoint) than anything he's ever done.

[[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 12:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

::Another nitpick: "White knights '''believe that Chris is capable of no wrong''' and try to help him [emphasis added]". I somewhat doubt that all white knights really think that Chris is completely blameless, and anyway that's not their defining characteristic. A person who thinks that Chris is much to blame for his current predicament yet also tries to stop the trolls and help Chris better himself is not a white knight? -- [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 16:43, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

*These are good points, NegaCWC and I think the fellow who added a bunch to the page addressed some of these concerns. It's a delicate issue, I want this page done right if it's going to be in the main namespace, so do you (or anyone else for that matter) think it's good to go now?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:37, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* If the fellow you're referring to is me, then yes, addressing some of those points was part of the intent of my last edit. As for whether the page is ready to go or not, I'm leaning towards "not just yet". Looking at it, there isn't really much in the way of hard information there, and a lot of it is within the confines of opinions and speculation (the arguments for and against). It feels to me a little more like something you'd see on a forum and not an article that could be referenced. I think a little bit more exposition on A-log himself, at least as far as his involvement in the ongoing saga that is Chris, and how the practice of "A-logging" came into being and came to be known as such, would probably make it feel more like an article. A little bit more fact and reference to balance out the opinion and speculation, so to speak. Course, that's just my opinion, and I'm just a noob. -- [[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 03:56, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said on the community portal, this is a tricky article because it doesn't exactly pertain to Chris directly in the same way [[white knighting]] does, or at least we don't have tangible documentation or anything like that of Chris responding to A-Logging. I really don't want to focus the article on A-Log, because 1) this is the CWCki and [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|the CWCki is about Chris]] and not so much ancillary characters like A-Log, especially given that Chris hasn't responded to anything he's done and 2) I'm more concerned about the mindset that was popularized by A-Log rather than the guy himself.
::I agree that in general, we should try to have articles based on facts and references rather than just our opinions and speculation. But I think this article might need to be an exception to the rule. The white knighting article started out as mostly dealing with the meta-topic of "Can Chris be helped?/I think I should try to help Chris" is probably one of the stages Chris trolls go through and it comes up time and again on Chris related sites. The problem with the White knighting article is that one can read it and end up thinking "Gee, Chris doesn't want help and he's not as innocent as he seems, that means he's an awful awful person and he should be punished." I think it should be pretty clear that Chris is not a spawn of Satan like A-Loggers would like to argue, it's common sense really. Maybe talking about A-Logging and what he did, merely to establish the type of behavior associated with A-Logging, would help make this more factual, with examples of A-Logging on various Chris related sites might flush it out and make it seem like an actual phenomena and less than speculation.
::Ideally I want this article to serve a few goals - 1) bring up this topic, because as I said, it comes up time and again and I think it's a significant meta-topic that warrants discussion, and 2) help CWCki readers and editors not be an A-Log. People have said it and they probably have a point that people often read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful, awful person mostly because we have a tendency to exaggerate for dramatic and rhetorical purposes. This article, coupled with a "Don't be an A-Log" rule in regards to article tone, related to [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]], would help the CWCki tremendously.
::At least, that's just my opinion. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:01, 2 June 2012 (PDT)
:*It'd be good if we could get a screencap of A-Logging from YouTube (there was some good quotes on a recent /cwc/ thread along these lines), perhaps a screencap from /cwc/ of someone A-Logging and someone replying with "HI A-LOG." -unsigned comment by [[User:Champthom|Champthom]]
*** Y'know, we DO have a good "HI A-LOG"-type message here - someone in the [[Chris and Money]] talk page was talking about Chris's SSI and trying to get rid of it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:49, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

I went in and did a major revision to this page. This was originally on my user page so I took it out and put it on this page because i think the subject matter is relevant to this particular topic on people who may think of "A-Logging" over the Michael Snyder incident.
Kengel1021
* I'm not 100% certain that the revision in question, at least as it is currently worded and formatted, is wholly right for the article. Despite the potential relevance, it doesn't touch upon A-Logging at all, and talks solely about the incident on [[28 October 2011|28 October]]. Moreover, the points you raise are mostly in defense of Chris and his actions on that day. I can see the relevance to A-Logging, in the sense that one shouldn't A-Log Chris over this particular incident, but the reference is tangential at best. I would suggest editing your revision further to make it tie more directly to A-Logging, because as I'm reading it, I feel it belongs more on 28 October 2011 rather than here. I'll further point out that your revision isn't -bad-, per se. Just that it probably needs work to make it more relevant to A-Logging, since you believe the subject matter is indeed relevant. Again, this is only my opinion, and what the bleep do I know? --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 00:41, 9 July 2012 (PDT)

I have a feeling you are probably right about putting it under the October 28th incident. But there is more leniency regarding this page than the October 28th page regarding speculative articles and I am not sure if this would cross the line or not. Perhaps a moderator could help us here. -unsigned comment by [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]]
* I believe the leniency here is because technically, this article isn't on the CWCki. It's more or less a collaborative rough draft until Champ thinks it's ready to go up. There's also the fact that the topic of A-Logging in general is going to be a bit subjective and speculative because, short of somehow finding actual A-Logs (or at least reformed ones,) most of what we can put is why we think Anthony LoGatto and those of his ilk do what they do. The only relevant facts we can put are about A-Log himself, and the fact that A-Logging happens. 28 October 2011, on the other hand, is all about a specific incident that is both ongoing and (in my opinion) much more significant than the A-Logging phenomenon. Still, someone more veteran than I am would be in a better position to make a call. I'm just guessing here. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 22:55, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said, the problem with this article is that it's mostly speculative and opinion and doesn't fit in compared with other articles, that's the main issue. It's easy to find examples of A-Logging - I could probably go on /cwc/ or browse right here on the CWCki and find someone saying something A-Logesque. I think we have an issue that we have people here on the CWCki who are A-Logs and don't realize it that they might object to some things in this article.
::Anyways, I'm tempted to put it in the main namespace, but I want it to be solid, namely that it can demonstrate that this is a phenomena that actually occurs and has relevance to Chris trolling, though in this case it doesn't directly impact him. I think some people think this is an article about A-Log but I don't give a shit about him, I'm more concerned about the attitude towards Chris that's associated with him and not so much the guy himself. The wording has become too weak in this article, "Chris is incredibly gullible" lacks the bite of "Chris is a retard." I can see that people might object to calling Chris a retard, especially since we don't have this elsewhere, but he's practically a retard on a social level. He might not be a technical retard but he's a practical one, he's what colloquially would be called a retard. The wording establishes that he's an idiot who isn't entirely cognizant of his actions, establishing that it's stupid to judge him by some high standard and treat him as if he's some maniacal madman who carefully plans out how they'll hurt people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

:This article is extremely [[Chris and Hypocrisy|hypocritical]], since it defends Chris on many of his flaws, yet everywhere else, the CWCki mocks him for these. This article should either be deleted, rephrased, have a talk page, or at least have an "IM WORKING ON IT!" template. The talk page would be very nice indeed --[[User:TRUEandHONESTuser|TRUEandHONESTuser]] 18:10, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
::1) You do realize that this ''is'' a talk page? Everyone's still hammering out a lot of stuff here. 2) Yes, it's defending Chris, but it's defending Chris from A-Loggers who think that Chris should suffer immensely for his actions, not outright defending him for his actions. Yes, Chris can be deplorable and it might be unfair that Chris gets away with a lot of stuff, but in the end, we're all trying to prevent future A-Loggers/Chris-Chans from rising up and becoming targets themselves. It's not worth it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 15:22, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
:*I don't think this page is hypocritical. Ideally, we shouldn't be outright bashing Chris like A-Log does. I don't think the problem with the page but with the attitude of the CWCki as a whole. People often accuse the CWCki for A-Logging, and I think they might be right. Chris really isn't a bad person. I think we try to be fair, if he does something that warrant criticism we criticize him for it, but I think some of the times we're too over the top, usually for rhetorical purposes and I think people who don't have autism should be able to recognize this. But I think we need to have this article so we can say "Don't be an A-Log." It's one thing to point out Chris's faults, it's another thing to act like Chris is a subhuman sociopath who's worse than Hitler and deserves to die. Seriously, Chris is an idiot, he's really not a bad person. If you want to see harm befall Chris or you think he's truly responsible for all his actions, get some goddamn help.
::This page frustrates me though. I think part of the problem is that a lot of you are in fact A-Logs who don't recognize the fact Chris is an idiot. The other problem is that people think this is an article about A-Log when it's more about the behavior that's become associated with him. I wish there was a term that didn't involve his name so we don't have this problem but I can't think of anything better, plus nobody would have any idea what I'm talking about.
::I think we're good on the basic counter arguments, what we need are some real examples of A-Log type behavior from Chris related sites (CWCki, CWCki Forums, /cwc/, YouTube, DeviantArt, etc.). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:27, 30 July 2012 (PDT)
:::I must say, I heartily approve of the examples section. We definitely need more of these. I'll troll around and see what I can find. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 04:35, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

==Citations==
Should we get citations for the examples? I know that there aren't any available for some, but I assume that if we were able to get these quotes recently, the videos they came from must still be around and we can get screencaps for at least a few. I ask, because that quote that claims to be from the CWCki I couldn't seem to find the specific user responsible for. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (PDT)
*Ditto, perhaps screencap an example for posterity, so people can know we're not making this shit up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:47, 15 September 2012 (PDT)

== French version ==

Is anyone against me porting over my [[User:Aschlafly/A-Logging-fr|french version]] to mainspace?[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:50, 20 December 2012 (PST)

* For me, no. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 02:10, 21 December 2012 (PST)

== The /cwc/ quotation. ==

Nitpicking here, but I don't think the /cwc/ quote down there is a very good or direct example of A-Logging. The quote doesn't fit any of the typical traits of A-Loggers (wishing death/suffering, claiming Chris is a 'criminal' like some sort of Radovan Karadzic spinoff etc.) and just really sticks out like a sore thumb. The poster isn't trollshielding or anything, he's simply saying 'Sucks to have autism and people think you're like him'.

This doesn't really fall in line with the other quotes that swear death and suffering on Chris or just ramble like children about how he sucks. It's kind of jarring and makes me think the quoter jumped the gun a little on labelling it A-Logging.

I cast my vote for that quote being excised for clarity on what A-Logging is, since that quote sways it in slight favor of A-Logging being '''any''' criticism of Chris's autism and/or it tarring the perception of other people with autism. Not even out of defense for the poster, but just for 'narrative' clarity. --[[User:DX10|DX10]] ([[User talk:DX10|talk]]) 09:54, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

:I concur. I'm tempted to remove it this instant, but I want to see first if anyone objects to this move. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 16:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

* Agreed. Removed it. I actually added it in the first place in an attempt to get examples from different sources. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

== To be honest ==

Comparing chris chan to adolf hitler is like comparing a feather to an atom bomb.--[[User:Zimkiller1|Zimkiller1]] ([[User talk:Zimkiller1|talk]]) 18:50, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

While I agree with that, I gotta point out that that's because Chris does not have any political power, like he does in the Sonichu comics. If he had as much political authority in real life as he does in CWCVille, then he could potentially cause lots of people to die. ~ Steampunk Mage

== Woooooow ==

I can't believe I was such a scrub back then. XD Well, at least now I'm part of the majority that actually laughs at Chris' antics. Seriously though, I really said that shit? I'd wanna troll me too. --[[User:GamerXZ0|GamerXZ0]] ([[User talk:GamerXZ0|talk]]) 05:54, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

== The section "Arguments against A-Logs" is naive ==

I'm all for having a section like this explaining some easy logic holes to fall in when thinking about Christine but the way the author chose to do it is ridiculous. I would remove several entire paragraphs of non-sense but since this is a collaborative effort I'll just explain why and if consensus is reached we can remove the appropriate parts. Some examples:

<blockquote>Chris's decision to visit a local GameStop despite being banned [...] was caused by Chris's assumption that he would be allowed in because he was in disguise, and because he had decided that his ban didn't apply because he was there to buy</blockquote>

Oh it's OK, then? He just decided the objective ban didn't apply due to his subjective opinions?

<blockquote>given the existence of this wiki [...] it would more likely than not take someone working in human services [...] extremely good connections to [...] give Chris a realistic chance at successfully getting and keeping a job</blockquote>

In all those years of feeding the trolls despite being advised not to; of not creating a decent professional resumé despite having a college degree; and becoming an unemployable travestite; the fault ends up on CWCwiki for Christine not being able to ever get a job despite being high-functioning enough to be a productive adult? It's the trolls fault now that he is a 30-some year old who acts like a ten-year old travestite child?!

<blockquote>Chris has also used the racial slur of "nigger" [...] though he shows some degree of reservation. [...] In this video, Chris's racism is often found humorous as Tito is Hawaiian, not black.</blockquote>

I get it... it's OK to be a bigot if it's funny?

So you see what I mean. I can totally see that the page should be written from a [[white knight]]'s perspective to contrast with the a-log aspect but fuck me if this hasn't gone way beyond reason and become a page to excuse him from all and any blame and responsibility. Please, let's not forget that the entire rest of the wiki seems to agree he is a poor excuse for a human being. Yes, his autism surely excuses some of his faults but let's not forget even people who suffer more from autism than him don't go around macing innocent people, vandlizing stores, drawing sex scenes with friends or becoming the #1 lolcow in history.

So if you agree leave a note here and we can clean up the page once we have enough support, unless anyone can offer a better alternative [[User:Kek|Kek]] ([[User talk:Kek|talk]]) 00:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

PS: [[Weening]] is the perfect example of what this page should be - it explains ruthlessly everything that is wrong with weeners but it's founded on solid logic and doesn't try to make up for Christine's shortcomings, rather focusing on why weening sucks instead.

Couldn't Arjen be considered an A-logger? I mean, his hatred for CWC ruined the fun of the Miscreants in Mumble 9 because he was all "I HATE U FAGGUT KILLZ URSELF DUMMY!!!!!!" I mean, if that isn't A-logging, then what is? --[[User:Newwaveknight|Newwaveknight]] ([[User talk:Newwaveknight|talk]]) 21:39, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

== About Chris not being able to get a job ==

Though I agree with the argument that Chris cannot get a job, I gotta mention that a lot of the reasons for that is because he dug his own grave. Thus it would be more accurate to say that he "can no longer get a job," since in the past he could have gotten one after being fired from Wendy's, but just didn't due to laziness and believing Bobby's claim of Social Security paying more than jobs. [[User:Steampunk Mage|Steampunk Mage]] ([[User talk:Steampunk Mage|talk]]) 20:46, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

==A-Logging Wall of Shame?==
I found this quote on a parody video of Chris (link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=46&v=8oCd-Y8g8Es)

"Can we please get another crusade against him and eradicate him for good this time? Like, LEGITIMATELY ruin his life and make him suffer more than he already had? Completely destroy him? Please? Thank you."

Should it be on the wall, and should I name the account? I feel kind of iffy about shaming someone, because it doesn't make me better than them.

-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 18:22, 16 November 2017 (PST)

Talk:Chris and gender

2017-11-06T02:36:10Z

Camille: /* Androgyny */

==Is this necessary?==
We've already got pages on Chris and sex, the Tomgirl saga, and homos. The page on JERKS already says everything about what Chris thinks about men. All these pages already deal with gender in some fashion. While I think it would be a good idea to have the issue of gender addressed in a centralized place, why not just restructure one of these other pages? There's already a "Chris and transgender issues" section on the Homos page.

What's more, the discussions on the Forum indicate that there is a huge debate about Chris and gender which make this a difficult issue to tackle objectively. One of the central rules of the CWCki is to avoid speculation. Chris hasn't received a psychological evaluation on this issue. So far this article has no citations. I am not optimistic about this page not descending into a useless clusterfuck.

Finally, the "Chris and..." pages are high-profile, and I believe require (or should require) admin approval. Why not create this as an experimental page for now on your userpage, and see what the mods think of it?[[User:Asperhes|asperhes]], 4/5/15

:I understand and appreciate your critical analysis. I saw this article as requested and tried to put as much in as I can at this time. As you can see '''this article is far from finished and greatly appreciate contributions to the article'''. I will try to moderate the page as much as possible. If it does devolve to what you fear then I will gladly wipe it from existence.Also if the admins find it in any way unneeded or innapropiate I will delete it. [[User:skurvypete|Skurvypete]],4/5/15

::Well actually you can't delete it. Only the admins can do that. I would check with them about how to proceed, especially since you don't waste your time working on a page that an admin unilaterally deletes (which they have been known to do). There hasn't been a new "Chris and..." page added in over two years, and that time it definitely required admin approval. [[User:Asperhes|asperhes]], 4/5/15.

I'm rather new to the cwcki so thank you for notifying me of this. Do you know where I can discuss with the admins (I don't know any) about the page? [[user:skurvypete|Skurvypete]]4/5/15

Okay iv'e gone into the rules and they say that you do not need direct admin approval. I would like for other people to give me feedback on the page NOTE: Im just getting started on this. If many people feel like this page is irrevelant then i will get in touch with an admin to delete it [[skurvypete]] 4/5/15

:I don't think it's an unnecessary page, but it's probably going to reiterate a lot in the JERKS and Women's Right's pages, so a three-way merge may be necessary. If the merge occurs, it's best that the page has this title, his attitudes towards gender are definitely "Chris and" page material, especially with the recent intersex fiasco. The "gender" in the page title needs to be "Gender" though. I've written for this page and will pipe to it where appropriate.[[User:Res|Res]] ([[User talk:Res|talk]]) 16:54, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

== Androgyny ==

Does anyone think there should be a section about Androgyny in this article? Because Chris has shown both masculine and feminine traits all throughout his life, even as a tomgirl.

:I think this kind of section should be tongue and cheek. [[2016#January|I really don't see any femininity in Chris]]. The dated meaning of androgyny is "having the physical characteristics of both sexes." The more modern definition is "being partly male and partly female in appearance." Chris certainly has a desire to appear more feminine, but he's completely failing at it. I don't see actual femininity, I just see autism.--[[User:Galilean|Galilean]] ([[User talk:Galilean|talk]]) 12:56, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

He does have manboobs, which may be considered a feminine trait, I guess?
-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 18:42, 5 November 2017 (PST)

Mary Lee Walsh

2017-11-03T04:01:13Z

Camille: /* Mary Lee Walsh in real life */

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{{quote|You're not gonna get a [[Girlfriend]], this way or any way.|Mary, as quoted by Chris.<ref>[[Chris emails 2007]]</ref>}}
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[[Image:Sonichu07-P38.jpg|thumb|Mary Lee Walsh, as she appears in the [[comic]]. Chris draws her tits almost as big as his fans do.]]

'''Mary Lee Walsh''' is a proto-[[troll]] who maligned [[Chris]]'s [[Love Quest]] in its early years by ripping up his [[Attraction Sign|Attraction Signs]] and eventually suspending him from [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] for a whole year. She is one of the most important people in Chris's life, as she is one of the few people who refused to allow Chris to use his [[autism]] as an excuse for anything he wanted, and tried to make him act like a normal human being. This, of course, meant war.

The resulting conflict between Chris and Mary Lee affected Chris so profoundly that she became the sole focus of many early ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' [[Sub-Episodes]]. Even to this day, she is still arguably the supreme villain in the ''Sonichu'' series, a status that even [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Liquid Chris]] could never match. As such, she is revered and cherished among trolls for her actions, both in real life, and in ''Sonichu'' [[fan]] fiction. All hail the Dean!

By early [[2009]], many years after the college suspension episode, Chris had begun to express a desire for reconciliation with Walsh. He began with the [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retcon]] of the fictional Mary's name to the slightly less defamatory '''Slaweel Ryam''', implying (and later stating outright) that the character was not related to the real Mary. For several months Chris made conciliatory gestures, including sending a drawing to her house, but her only response was a legal summons. Since then, Chris has accepted that Walsh will never be able to [[Chris_and_remorse#Common_traits_of_a_CWC_apology|truly earn his forgiveness.]]

Chris' continued feud with Mary Lee Walsh is illustrative of his propensity to hold severe grudges over seemingly minor incidents. In late [[2013]], '''ten years''' after the August 2003 incident, Chris blamed Mary Lee Walsh in part for his continued decline in a series of [[Facebook]] ramblings, and referred to a [[Wal-Mart]] [[manajerk]] who banned him from the store as a "Mary Lee Walshing Witch Bitch."

==Mary Lee Walsh in real life==
[[Image:MaryLeeWalshIRLnewsScreenCapture.JPG|thumb|left|Walsh during a TV interview.]]
[[Image:MaryLeeWalsh-IRL.JPG|thumb|right|Contrary to how she is rendered in various media, Mary Lee Walsh is not very promiscuous in person.]]
Walsh is the Dean of Student Affairs at PVCC and a member of the [[Virginia]] Sexual and Domestic Violence Action Alliance<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20101015023113/http://www.vadv.org/secGetHelp/Directory%20of%20Services/campusprgms_p-z.html] (archived on 15 October 2010)</ref>. She has also written a book<ref>http://product.half.ebay.com/The-Freshman-Experience-Creating-College-Success-Piedmont-Virginia-Community-College-by-Mary-L-Walsh-and-Mary-Lee-Walsh-2001-Paperback/2491824&tg=info</ref> about coping with college life, which perhaps unsurprisingly does not advocate attacking one's superiors with magical curses. Chris had first been scolded by her for passing around photocopies of his ''[[Sonichu's News Dash]]'' newsletter, but delivered the most crushing blow when Chris was loitering with his usual [[Attraction Sign]]; [[Chris and reality|according to Chris]], Walsh tore down his sign and told him that he would never get a girlfriend this way, or indeed ''at all''. However true this alleged statement may have been, there is virtually no chance Mary said it, as it would have been highly inappropriate and jeopardized her job.

Chris, being the narcissist he is, disregarded her warnings to stop posting his signs and continued to place this ad for his "love quest" in the main campus building. Walsh, taking umbrage at this clear defiance of her authority, took Chris to her office to discuss the situation with him. What exactly transpired during the meeting is a source of much debate, as the only accounts made public are written by Chris and thus heavily biased. What is known is that during the meeting, [[Chris and reality|Chris pretended to converse out loud with Sonichu]] (relaying what Sonichu "said" to her). Then, after what Chris described as being "talked down...to RUDELY AND HOARSELY," he verbally attacked her in a fit of [[Chris and anger|rage]], going so far as to hex her with the dreaded [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]]<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5|Jackie Chat #5]]</ref>. Chris was told in no uncertain terms that he couldn't continue his [[Love Quest]] on campus, prompting him to slander Walsh on his [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|website]] and send her an attempt at an intimidating drawing<ref> [[Autism papers]] </ref>. This little stunt got him banned from PVCC for a whole year, and forced to take [[Chris and anger|anger]] management classes and get psychiatric help before he was readmitted.<ref name="wikipedia">[[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Enter_the_Wicked_Witch_of_the_Private_Villa_of_Corrupted_Citizens|User:ChrisChanSonichu]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie E-mails#Chris got his degree for Cwcville|Jackie E-mails]]</ref> Any positive effects these may have are not evident.

===In his own words===

{{quotebox|So, as of August, [[2003|Y2K3]], I did [[autism|the most logical, sensible and inexpensive idea I could think of]], I made a simple [[sign]] that stated, "I am a 21-year old and Single Male Seeking and 18-21-year old SINGLE [[Gal-pal|FEMALE COMPANION]]", along with a basic description of qualities I felt were best suited, due to the fact that it describe MOST every [[Boyfriend-free girl|Boyfriend-Free]], 18-21year old Girl. Sadly though, not a single one even gave me a glanced, a momentary pause or even an excuse-making throat clearing to read the sign or give me the time of day. And the few who noticed... That EVIL WITCH OF THE [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|PrivateVilla of Corrupted Citizens]], Mary Lee Walsh, a bunch of Non-Blue or [[Niggos|Black]] impersonating [[Jerkop|JERKOPS]], [[Manajerks]] and every other (only a few total) son/daughter of a #@&*.. MOCKED ME AND EVEN CRUMBLED MY EFFORTS AND THREW THEM INTO MY FACE! IT WAS SERIOUS HEART-SHATTERING INSULTS LIKE THAT WHICH LITERALLY SHATTERED MY HEART TO ALMOST NOTHING AND MURDERED MY SOUL! Like as if I didn't already understand that [[Love]] Can't be Hurried; but they ALL left a HUGE IMPRESSION among the general population that having a [[Sweetheart]] was ILLEGAL IN VIRGINIA thus, "[[Virginia is for Virgins|VIRGINIA IS FOR VIRGINS, NOT LOVERS!]]" was what I had thought for a long time with the Dark Forces that were forced into me, bedding with my torturing past with the [[JERKS|jerks]] of the [[Greene County]] School System during the childhood years of my life. Thank [[Chris and religion|God]] for blessing me with many happy years at [[Providence Middle School]] and [[Manchester High School]] in Chesterfield; rounding my feelings and attitude out for today.}}

===Emails with Mary===
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'''From: CWCSonichu@aol.com''' 
'''Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:22 PM''' 
'''To: mwalsh@pvcc.edu''' 
'''Subject: Hi again...'''

Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following:

-I will never hang notes on the wall again. 
-I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan. 
-I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my [[Scale of Respect]] each by 2 points (0=No Respect...10=Respect). 

Please reply via E-Mail.

Christian C.
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'''From: Mary Lee Walsh <mwalsh@pvcc.edu>''' 
'''To: CWCSonichu@aol.com''' 
'''Sent: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 8:54 am''' 
'''Subject: RE: Hi again...'''

Christian:
Susan Hannifan and I will be able to meet with you on Monday February 9th in my office at 3:00 p.m. I do not have any time this week that works with all of our schedules, so it will have to be next Monday. I normally send students notice of appointments by mail, but you have asked that I correspond to you through email. It is necessary that this meeting take place, so if Monday is not convenient for you please let me know and we will set a time for Wednesday.}}

'''Email to [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]]'''

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'''From: CWCSonichu@aol.com''' 
'''To: Virginia_Sanford@ccpsnet.net''' 
'''Sent: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 3:32:50 PM Eastern Standard Time''' 
'''Subject: Re: Hello'''

Hey, Mrs. Sanford (or should I say Ginny or Virginia), I am delighted to hear from you as well. And It is also good to know that you are still residing at that address. The [[DVD]] is under production, to be completed a few days after February 24, [[2007]] (my 25th Birthday...Yay).

You may be able to help me in a portion of it now; there will be a [[Slideshow]] (projected from my [[PlayStation Portable]]) featuring not only pics of me growing up, but the friends, teachers and relatives I've known and remembered (either from heart, like yourself, as well as yearbook signatures). Anyway, do you remember from the ol' class, Sarah and Micha (the blonde girl with glasses, and the slow-talking african american who Ms. Eckel told over and over [[Hypocrisy|to get his dad to teach him how to shave]])? I remembered both of them from heart, but unfortunately I don't remember their last names, so it's harder to find them in the yearbooks; could you tell me their last names, please?

As for what had happened during PVCC, in a nutshell; about Mid-Summer, 2003, I've realize upon revolation[sic] that I needed a girl friend to make into a Sweetheart from the Ground-Up, so with a sign (which I've later realized that it made me look slow-minded; the "R" Word), I've started my Enduring Love Quest. The Dean of Student Serveces[sic], Mary Lee Walsh came out and tore my sign up right in front of me, and said, "You're not gonna get a Girlfriend this way or any way." That *&^%$ SHATTERED MY HEART AND MURDERED MY SOUL. And it wasn't just her, the Policemen Imposters in Brown, White and Red, AKA The Jerkops (Blue and Black ARE the TRUE POLICE SOLDIERS) also seriously indented the impression that "Virgina is for Virgins, NOT Lovers".

But it has a happy ending; in Mid-[[2005]], when I've started playing the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] TCG, I met [[Megan Schroeder|this girl]] who upon numerous conversations, art-sharing and secret confidence, I've grown fond of, and my Heart and Soul Recovered from the Serious Emotional and Physical Pain I've endured. Although she's not intrested[sic] in a serious relationship, I still am fond of her, and I'm hoping that she may have a change of heart.

You may learn more about what had happened to me from the Sub-Episodes in my "Sonichu" Comic Book, which I have the legable [''sic''] images uploaded onto my [[CWC's Sonichu Site!]]; those Sub-Episodes are based on my Real-Life Events. *[[sigh]]*

Well, that's about it for now; I hope you do well as well. And I will make that DVD copy for you after I've finalized the master copy. Please tell the remaing[sic] faculty who are still working at Providence that I wish them the best as well. I still remember Mrs. Rogers (my ol' computer teacher) when she played as Woodstock in the [[1990s#1996|1996]] "Snoopy" play; that was just fun and cute. :)

Take care;
Christian Weston Chandler, A.K.A. (nickname) Chris Chan.
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==Mary Lee Walsh in ''Sonichu''==
[[Image:MachPunch.jpg|thumb|THIS IS WHAT CHRIS ACTUALLY BELIEVES.]]
[[Image:MaryWantsIt.JPG|thumb|Chris is willing to pick up his markers and make hideous porn of people that he hates.]]

Because of all the [[stress]] Mary Lee Walsh caused, Chris brooded and obsessed over his "HEART SHATTERING" defeat and began to re-invent the entire scenario so that he came out as the victor. As such, Walsh began to appear in a lot of Chris's works as a primary antagonist specifically opposing his [[Love Quest]].

{{quote|After the first encounter with Mary, I put her into my comics from the start as MY personal MAIN Adversary, with her hoard[sic] of Impostor Police People, also known as [[Jerkop]]s, and the Notorious [[Count Graduon]] trapped in the glass orb on the scepter she wields.|Chris, in regards to a comic which isn't meant to be about him}}

In the comics, Walsh appears as a literal witch, complete with a broomstick. In an ingenious [[parody]], she is the leader of the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]], or PVCC. Her sinister deeds are motivated by a [[Chris and Writing|totally unexplained]] hatred of true love and people who seek it, making her a fitting adversary for the heartsick Chris and the deeply monogamous Sonichu. As the "witch of hearts," Walsh's broader goal is to wage war against love itself, although her only tactic is to send [[Jerkop|jerkops]] into [[CWCville]] to beat up anyone engaging in romance (she needed Graduon's help for the later invasions). For no given reason, she considers Chris the most important target of her malign actions, and doesn't seem aware of the fact that true love occurs outside of CWCville as well.

Mary's first appearances in the comics are in [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]], via a brief preview and several short comic strips that don't formally introduce her; her formal debut in the canon is in [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]. Upon her introduction, Chris and Mary are already bitter enemies, yet Chris never explains the exact source of their hostility beyond stating that she once "shattered" his heart and she is inexplicably frustrated by his dogged persistence in searching for love. It is, however, made immediately clear that their feud has become intensely personal; both characters are fully prepared to fight to the death.

In [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]] Chris ties together the ancient evil of the [[Anchuent Prophecy]] with his own petty grudges by teaming Mary with [[Count Graduon]]. Imprisoned in a magical scepter, Graduon's power is wielded by Walsh for much of the series. Together, Graduon and Walsh represent the dual miseries of his becoming an adult--the trauma of graduating from his beloved [[high school]] and the stress of his disastrous collegiate career. To combat Walsh's powerful new accomplice, in [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]], Chris gains the powers of [[Chris-chan Sonichu]], escalating the original battle between a fat virgin and a old lady to an epic struggle between a horribly drawn Sonic OC and an old lady with a scepter.

During her reign of terror, Walsh threatens the city of CWCville on multiple occasions. In ''Sonichu'' #2, she and Graduon create a golem to stomp the city. Much of the action in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]] involves Chris fending off Walsh's agents, until he and [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]] finally storm PVCC and liberate the college from her evil, although Mary simply relocates to [[The High School Story|Menchi-Nasu High]] to establish a new base of operations. In [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] she floods the town with her army of [[Jerkops]] to stage a coup against Chris and his loyal police force. When this plan begins to collapse, she and Graduon attempt to trap Chris in a [[Dark Mirror Hole]], but are only successful in ensnaring Crystal. When Chris later became stuck in the [[Time Void]] in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]], Mary seizes the opportunity and prepares to attack CWCville in her most audacious invasion yet, laying siege with vast armies of [[Transformers|Decepticlones]] in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] and causing untold damage before being defeated by Sonichu. Her evil is finally put to an end in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], when Chris uses the power of the [[Sonichu Balls]] to become [[Collosal Chris-Chan]]. He then destroys Graduon's scepter and easily overpowers her, but instead of killing her (like he killed 100+ innocent people in that very issue) he paralyzes her (seemingly permanently) and sends her to jail.

A consistent theme in Mary's story arc is that she is to blame for almost everything that maligns Chris or CWCville, mirroring Chris's insane belief that the real-life Mary was somehow the singular author of all his misfortunes. Even her conspirators are victims--virtually all of her Jerkops are simply brainwashed against their will, and even co-villain Count Graduon finds her to be selfish and wicked, thinking only of her petty squabbles with Chris and never about helping him get free from his scepter. To labor the point even more, while Chris suggests that some of her followers have good in them and are capable of redemption, Mary herself is pure evil.

===Renaming and retcons===
[[Image:143-MaryLeeWalsh.jpg|thumb|Anyone but Hslaw Eel Yram!]]

As a result of the [[Miyamoto Saga]], many characters based on real-life figures were renamed. In an act of utmost subtlety, Mary Lee Walsh became '''"Slaweel Ryam"''' or '''"Slaweel the Witch."''' A devious maneuver indeed--as one can see, the name is not ''entirely'' backwards, and there are letters missing. Nobody could possibly figure out the connection, unless of course they happened to see the notice posted prominently on the [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|Sonichu.net]] front page detailing the full extent of the name changes. Walsh being one of the primary villains in both the comic and real life, Chris obviously didn't want to change the name to an entirely unrecognizable form, as that would require originality. The name is an evolution of '''"Hslaw Eel Yram,"''' which was Chris's version of MLW in his custom [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] cards; in all likelihood, he had only used the "reverse code" as a means to insult Mary with the card without fear of getting in trouble if someone saw it.

In [[August 2009]], Chris put up a [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=TwoMarys page on CWCipedia entitled "TwoMarys"] in which he tried graspingly to explain the retconning of Mary Lee Walsh's name to Slaweel Ryam. Apparently, the evil Mary Lee Walsh had been Slaweel all along, except Slaweel changed her name from Mary Lee Walsh to Slaweel Ryam later on, while the ''real'' Mary was innocent the whole time. This of course makes [[List of Chris's lies|absolutely no sense]] as Chris has changed ''every'' instance of the "evil" Mary's name to Slaweel in the most recent edits of his comics, even during her introduction in ''Sonichu'' #0, where her character is introduced as "Slaweel the Witch" and not Mary Lee Walsh. Chris had essentially created a paradox within his universe, having made a [[:File:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg|comic]] where Slaweel, caught by Chris and the police, apologizes to Mary for ruining her good name, but because of the retcon Slaweel hasn't really had a chance to ruin Mary's name in the first place. Another glaring contradiction is that Slaweel says in the apology comic that she's "sorry for using [Mary's] name in vain and when I constructed P.V.C.Citizens, and made [Mary] look a fool for about six years," but on the [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=TwoMarys "TwoMarys" page], this caption appears below a picture of Slaweel Ryam:

{{quote|This Mary later changed her name to Slaweel Ryam, and she was creating witch brew during night hours and sharing them illegally with the bums outside of the building; she was fired from PVCC '''then went on to build PVCCitizens'''.|Chris, demonstrating his inability to create a cohesive plot.}}

==Mary Lee Walsh in ''Soul Calibur''==
{{main|Soul Calibur}}

It is unclear whether or not Chris ever attempted to physically harm Mary Lee Walsh, but in a video he uploaded to [[YouTube]], Chris lives out his fantasy of beating the daylights out of her. Chris creates himself and many other real-life friends and enemies in the [[video game]] ''Soul Calibur III'', so that he can take out his pent-up [[Virgin with rage|rage]] in the most disturbing, passive-aggressive manner possible. It should be noted that Chris appears to struggle with defeating an AI-controlled Mary Lee Walsh on the easiest possible setting.

==Possible reconciliation==
[[Image:Apology to Mary Lee.jpg|thumb|Notice that Chris isn't sorry for the shit he did to warrant her anger, only that he let someone with her name run around. And why bother having two separate Mary Lee Walshes if he made her Slaweel?]]

Beyond his efforts to retcon the fictional Mary, Chris began re-examining Mary's value to society by describing her good works on CWCipedia, to distinguish her from "Slaweel":

{{quote|This Mary replaced the previous one in mid-2000; she has done a good job with her role as Dean of Student Services. She is Currently and To Be Respected with Open Kindness and Prosperity from ALL the Piedmont Virginia Commuinity College Students, Peers and Employees.|Chris, CWCipedia<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=TwoMarys</ref>}}

The article rambles on and drifts alarmingly far from reality, strongly suggesting he used a quick Google search for "research," detailing this Mary's many achievements and services to Piedmont Virginia Community College. However, the whole piece carries an insincere tone, suggesting Chris was compelled to recognize Mary as a [[reality|real person]] as some sort of therapeutic measure. Keep in mind, however, that he doesn't acknowledge that the ''real woman'' he interacted with wasn't a horned-hat wearing witch; simply that this Mary Lee Walsh was replaced (in the ''real world'') by a good duplicate. In a very sad way, Chris seems to find it easier to rewrite reality than his own fantasy world.

Mary was named on the CWCipedia Chris's first "Woman of The (ANY) Month to Respect with Authority and Kindness" for the month of August.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Christian_Says</ref>

In his edited version of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page, he clarifies that he forgave Mary Lee Walsh for her "past misdeeds" (even though Chris himself was entirely at fault in all of their encounters). According to his edits, he also hand-delivered a framed copy of his "apology" to her office, but Mary simply contacted his parents and told them to keep Chris off campus altogether.

From this action, Chris inferred that Mary didn't care about him or their relationship, and Chris was crushed. Also crushed were any hopes of reconciliation, as after this incident Chris soon reverted to precisely the same deranged mindset as before, once again imagining her as somehow orchestrating everything bad that happened to him.

{{quote|Besides which, that b**** "Dean", Mary Lee Walsh, AFTER I personally went over and handed her a Framed Hand-Drawn Apology of my angst against her, SHE SENT ME A TRESPASSING NOTICE! While my family and I did NOT accept it, and sent it back to her, I must say that is one hell of a "Thank You" for going through the trouble and gas usage to Personally Apologize and Make Peace.|Chris, Mailbag 26<ref>[[Mailbag 26]]</ref>}}

==Grudge==
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 29.jpg|thumb|right|Voodoo [[LEGO]] Mary. Chris shakes this container and holds it upside down to torment her.]]
Chris's anger toward Mary Lee Walsh continues well over a decade since his [[Attraction Sign]] was torn down at [[PVCC]]. In a series of rambling [[Facebook]] postings made on 2 [[September 2013]], Chris began blaming various people for a temporary ban from [[Wal-Mart]], including Walsh:

{{quote|If it had not been for [[Michael Snyder|Mr. "Manajerk"]], [[Megan Schroeder]], and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, [[The GAMe PLACe|Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys]], My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!...And that [[Women's Rights|bitch]], Mary Lee Walsh, with a Cold Heart at [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] for interfering with my Sweetheart Search, AND Banning me from PVCC!!!|Chris, Facebook, 2 September 2013}}

A few days later, when Chris was conclusively banned from Wal-Mart, he coined the term "Walshing," a verb that evidently means "not accepting autism as an excuse."

{{quote|I have just been intercepted by the "Lady" Manajerk...the bitch has followed the steps of Mr. Snyder now; banned me from the Wal-Mart closest to my own house...She has proven herself to be a cold-hearted, uncaring, uncompassionate, lack-of-understanding, bigoted, discriminating, selfish, Mary Lee Walshing, Witch Bitch!|Chris, Facebook, 6 September 2013}}

On 17 [[December 2014]], [[Apology Letters‎|an apology letter]] that Chris had written to Walsh in [[August 2014]] was leaked. True to form, Chris blames everything on factors supposedly beyond his control, and tries to be condescending and play the victim at the same time. He specifically tries to appease Mary for depicting her in his comic as a witch, operating on the presumption that a university administrator is gravely concerned with the way she is presented in DeviantArt-level Sonic OC garbage drawn by a fat [[Tomgirl|tranny]].

==[[:Category:Mary_Lee_Walsh|Fan art]]==
[[Image:Mary-lee-Walsh.jpg|thumb|250px|[[Mass debating|For some reason]], Mary has become a frequent subject of pictures like this.]]

In Chris's artwork, Mary Lee Walsh has long gray hair and wears a golden helmet with red horns on it. However, Chris being Chris, he would often neglect to draw her hair (and her fingers, and her feet, and her nose...) at all. In the early days of his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page it was inferred that Walsh's helmet was in fact a blonde bob cut, and the horns were growing out of her head like those of a devil. Additionally, once it became clear that Chris was viewing the page it became fashionable to mess with him by drawing Mary (whom he despised) as a sexy cartoon succubus who tempted Chris with her body (which he was sure to masturbate to). As a result, the most influential depictions of Mary have been "Rule 34" fan art, depicting her as a voluptuous blonde with devil horns (and occasionally a tail), usually wearing (at most) a skimpy purple miniskirt and thigh-high boots. In the ''Sonichu'' animated series by SpazKid, she was depicted as being physically sexy but having unflattering sexual desires and speaking with a man's voice.
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==Sources==
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==See also==
{{CWCipedia|chris=TwoMarys}}
{{Fan art}}
*[[Count Graduon]]
*[[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]
*[[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]
*[[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|Retroactive continuity in ''Sonichu'']]
*[[Attraction Sign]]

==External links==
*[http://zabukawaii.deviantart.com/art/The-origin-of-Slaweel-146885649 Fanfiction: The origin of Slaweel]
*<s>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLCsZpcTSg0 Harry D and the PVCC girls: "Jerkop Bebob"]</s> (dead link as of Jun 2014)
*<s>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZyH5Y9SpQY Harry D's Live Drawing.]</s> (dead link as of Jun 2014)
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8dAntFOZxg CWC Sketch- MLW Pt 1]

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Talk:Michael Hirtes

2017-11-02T07:44:02Z

Camille: /* Which of the links are dead? */

Since Hirtes has many flaws in common with Chris, I wonder why the former hates the latter so much; anyone got any ideas? [[User:Steampunk Mage|Steampunk Mage]] ([[User talk:Steampunk Mage|talk]]) 19:07, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
* It's exactly ''because'' he has so much in common with Chris. The original A-Log was the same way. They're obsessed with hating people who are more visible or famous for failing at life to distract from the fact that they actually fail harder at it. [[User:Ericitos Verdes|Ericitos Verdes]] ([[User talk:Ericitos Verdes|talk]]) 21:18, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

== Which of the links are dead? ==

They seem to be working for me. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 20:08, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

There seems to be no source for Hirtes's criminal records. -[[User:Camille|Camille]] 23:46, 1 November 2017 (PDT)

The Kiwi Farms thread on him (#2 in References) has screencaps of the records in the OP. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:10, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I've taken down the dead link tag, and put the website for finding his criminal records in the external references.-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 0:51, 2 November 2017 (PDT)

Michael Hirtes

2017-11-02T07:42:11Z

Camille: /* External links */

:''"Totem Sanic" redirects here. For the [[Relic of Fail]], see [[Sonic Totem]].''

{{quote|Everyone has an animal inside them struggling to be free. Don't be afraid to let him out! Yiff!|Hirtes to a newspaper reporter}}

{{quote|I feel sorry for them in such pitiful conditions and whatnot. I do.|Chris, on people like Hirtes<ref name=CWCopinion>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CLog_10042017_-_Q%26A_1#Question_19:_About_negativity_and_hate</ref>}}

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}}

'''Michael Jay "Mike" Hirtes''' is a {{age|1964|4|16}}-year-old man from Council Bluffs, Iowa who has made a name for himself as both an [[A-Logging|A-Log]] and a [[weening|ween]]. Hirtes, also known as [[Kiwi Farms]] member '''Totem Sanic''', has created a multitude of [[Twitter]] accounts to follow Chris and spam him, as well as anyone he tweets to, with angry rants and accusations against him. Most of his rants against Chris consist of trite Chris memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks. Unlike the vast majority of A-Logs, including Anthony LoGatto himself, Hirtes's socks have actually been responded to by Chris, albeit rarely.

Hirtes was first discovered as a <abbr title="A lolcow first discovered as a consequence of his activity on the forum">halal</abbr> member of the Kiwi Farms, where he was outed as the operator of the Twitter account @RektByLife (since deleted), perhaps the most dedicated ween account following Chris at the time. Subsequent developments revealed that not only is Hirtes both older and more immature than Chris, but also that he, too, is [[Monthly tugboat|unemployed]], a [[Giant Penis Comic|furry]], prone to [[tard rage]], and has [[Chris and the law|gotten into trouble with the law]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/michael-j-mike-hirtes-mhirtes-slep-totem-sanic.32312/</ref>

==Discovery==

Many observers of Chris will have noted the presence of ween accounts in his Twitter replies for some time. However, much attention was not given to these accounts until Michael Hirtes was discovered on the [[Kiwi Farms]].

Hirtes was first called out when Farms member [https://kiwifarms.net/members/yawning-sneasel.231/ yawning sneasel] linked his Kiwi Farms account, [https://kiwifarms.net/members/michael-j-hirtes.14279/ Totem Sanic], to his @RektByLife (DaThingsIveSeen) Twitter account based on screencaps he had posted, which showed that he had the same Twitter profile picture as the one @RektByLife used. He was further incriminated when a post by him on the forums surfaced, where he praises DaThingsIveSeen for "doing GodBear's work". Furthermore, on the CWCki Club forums, user [http://cwcki.club/index.php?members/hurtful-truth-level.197/ Hurtful Truth Level] revealed that Totem Sanic had asked for credit mention for a tweet by his @EAT_SHITT_CHRIS (GIGANTIC_STRAW) account that Chris had replied to.

Hirtes subsequently complained about being banned in a forum post, which eventually culminated in his revelation as a gigantic laughing stock.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/this-is-why-we-dont-encourage-people-to-harass-chris.32290/</ref> In response to backlash, Hirtes posted a series of angry rants against Kiwi Farms administrator Null and the forum in general on Twitter.

<center><gallery>
File:HirtesTwitter1.png|The incriminating pieces of evidence.
File:Hirtesdp.jpg|Another screencap by Hirtes showing his @RektByLife display picture.
File:Hirtescreditmention.png|Hirtes asks for "credit mention" in response to a screencap of Chris's reply to his sock's tweet.
File:HirtesSalt.png|Mad at Null and the Kiwi Farms after his discovery.
</gallery></center>

As a result, Hirtes now has [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/michael-j-mike-hirtes-mhirtes-slep-totem-sanic.32312/ his very own thread] on the Kiwi Farms.

{{clear}}

==Twitter sockpuppets==

[[File:Penny donation may 2017.jpeg|thumb|150px|From [[monthly tugboat|tugboat]] recipient to tugboat recipient.]]

On [[Twitter]], both before and after he was discovered by the [[Kiwi Farms]], Hirtes has used numerous sockpuppet accounts to reply to Chris's tweets. Most of these replies are cookie-cutter rants chastising Chris for behavior that he, too, has been shown to have exhibited, usually through the use of worn-out Chris memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks. When he is not [[tard rage|autistically screeching]] at Chris, Hirtes is often found angrily tweeting at [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]]. His tweets are characterized by his usual writing style, along with a tendency to capitalize certain words (in contrast with Chris's style of only capitalizing the first letters of these words).

Hirtes sometimes uses other socks in order to reply to or like a tweet posted by one of his accounts. This is reminiscent of how Chris does the same thing with his [[NightStar2891]] account.

He donated a cent to Chris in response to the latter [[Minor Update, Handouts!|asking for no donations below a dollar]].

{{clear}}

===List of sockpuppets===

{{protip|Not all [[weening|weens]] are Hirtes. Just because they get angry over Chris on Twitter doesn't mean they should be included here.}}{| class="wikitable" style="width:100%"
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@RektByLife</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;"|
Dathingsiveseen
| Hirtes's most well-known sock, and the one he primarily operated on prior to his discovery. Created sometime before 16 September 2016.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Get_a_job_Chris</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Chris is A MALE
| Created on 29 March 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@GamestopJerkop</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Clyde Cash
| Created on 14 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Ghost_bob_BoOoO</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Ghost Bob
| Created on 18 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@shecameforcwc</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
shecameforCWC
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@JULAYYYYYYYYYYY</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Eviction Notice
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Nut_ward_nurse</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Pickle Man
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_Is_Ugly</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Lord_Hater
| Created on 29 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@LiquidClyde</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Clyde Cash
| Created on 1 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@BRRAAAAINSSSSSS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Zombie_Bob
| Created on 17 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CHRIS_IS_MALE</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Reality
| Created on 24 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@TROLLING_SUPER</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
TROLLING SUPER
| Created on 4 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Brute_male_CWC</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CWCs_Cumsicles
| Created on 5 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_IS_A_PEDO</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Left_Side_Hater
| Created on 12 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@FUKK_U_CHRIS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CWC_IS_MALE
| Created on 13 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@EAT_SHITT_CHRIS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
GIGANTIC STRAW
| Created on 13 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_IS_MALE</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_IS_A_FAT_MALE
| Created on 24 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@STINKO_MANBABY</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_CANT_STOP_ME
| Created on 27 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PICKLE_RIIIIIICK</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
PICKLE_RICK
| Created on 15 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@FLIPPINGUDABIRD</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
BIRD_IS_THE_WORD
| Created on 19 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@DangDirtyTroll</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
ItsDahKrumpas
| Created on 19 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@YYAH_YYAH_YYAH</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Dr_Hans_Asperger
| Created on 20 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Nannas_4_Barb</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
FOR_THE_HOARD
| Created on 2 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Bluearmsohno</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
MUGSHOT
| Created on 4 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PICKLE_LICKER</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
DISASTERCHU
| Created on 5 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@He_Wont_Get_Any</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_WANTS_LUV
| Created on 5 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PISSANDBURN</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Karate_Cole
| Created on 13 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@ItsThisAsshole</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
MisterBungle
| Created on 16 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@MarinerSentMe</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
RepoMan
| Created on 17 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@MANBABY_TANTRUM</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_IS_MAAAAD
| Created on 28 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Aspergercorn</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
DILDO_ON_FOREHEAD
| Created on 30 August 2017.
|}

==Chris's view on Hirtes==
Despite the effort Hirtes put into shitposting thousands of times about Chris, Chris himself barely pays him any attention. He was asked about Hirtes for a Q&A video, in which Chris responded that he felt pity for people like that<ref name=CWCopinion></ref>. In October 2017, nearly a year into Hirtes's spam crusade, Chris tagged his Twitter handle and said<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#Hirtes_is_impotent</ref>:

{{quote| While your comments do come into my view, I take them with the grain of salt, and shield my emotions and mind from your spite.}}

Amusingly, Chris came to Hirtes's defense in a tweet war between the latter and a white knight, saying, "Not all people who identify as furries are bad.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#On_furries</ref>"

Chris shared an anecdote about Hirtes to a Planet Dolan member who had complained of being trolled by someone with multiple accounts. Chris said:

{{quote|You block one, that same one comes back behind a different mask/account. Nowadays, I just make sure I do not have notifications turned on with this kid, and let him go on.|Hirtes only makes Chris stronger<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#On_blocking_trolls</ref>}}

However, despite Chris obviously not being affected by Hirtes' autistic spew, Hirtes still insists on milking [[Chris and anger|tardrage]] from the dead cow known as Chris.

==Gallery==

<center><gallery>
File:NewspaperHirtes.png|Hirtes makes an appearance in the local news. "Yiff! Yiff! That's what foxes say."
File:HirtesFirstTweet.png|Hirtes's first tweet to Chris.
File:Hirtes to Nowacking.png|An example of Hirtes's work.
File:Hirtes1.png|Hirtes replies to himself and likes his own tweets with separate accounts.
File:Hirtes2.png|Laughing at his own jokes.
File:Hirtescriminal.png|Hirtes and [[the Law]].
</gallery></center>

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Michael_Hirtes Hirtes's page on WikiFur]
*[https://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/ESAWebApp/TIndexFrm Criminal search website containing Hirtes's records]
{{People}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Hirtes, Michael}}
[[Category:People]]

Michael Hirtes

2017-11-02T07:40:25Z

Camille:

:''"Totem Sanic" redirects here. For the [[Relic of Fail]], see [[Sonic Totem]].''

{{quote|Everyone has an animal inside them struggling to be free. Don't be afraid to let him out! Yiff!|Hirtes to a newspaper reporter}}

{{quote|I feel sorry for them in such pitiful conditions and whatnot. I do.|Chris, on people like Hirtes<ref name=CWCopinion>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CLog_10042017_-_Q%26A_1#Question_19:_About_negativity_and_hate</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Michael Hirtes
| image = [[Image:Hirtes.png|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Michael Jay Hirtes
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = MHirtes Slep Totem Sanic [[Michael Hirtes#Twitter sockpuppets|Various others]]
|label3 = Date of Birth
|data3 = 16 April 1964 (age {{age|1964|4|16}})
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|data6 = White
|label11 = Occupations
|data11 = [[A-Logging|A-Log]] [[Weening|Ween]] Unemployed
}}

'''Michael Jay "Mike" Hirtes''' is a {{age|1964|4|16}}-year-old man from Council Bluffs, Iowa who has made a name for himself as both an [[A-Logging|A-Log]] and a [[weening|ween]]. Hirtes, also known as [[Kiwi Farms]] member '''Totem Sanic''', has created a multitude of [[Twitter]] accounts to follow Chris and spam him, as well as anyone he tweets to, with angry rants and accusations against him. Most of his rants against Chris consist of trite Chris memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks. Unlike the vast majority of A-Logs, including Anthony LoGatto himself, Hirtes's socks have actually been responded to by Chris, albeit rarely.

Hirtes was first discovered as a <abbr title="A lolcow first discovered as a consequence of his activity on the forum">halal</abbr> member of the Kiwi Farms, where he was outed as the operator of the Twitter account @RektByLife (since deleted), perhaps the most dedicated ween account following Chris at the time. Subsequent developments revealed that not only is Hirtes both older and more immature than Chris, but also that he, too, is [[Monthly tugboat|unemployed]], a [[Giant Penis Comic|furry]], prone to [[tard rage]], and has [[Chris and the law|gotten into trouble with the law]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/michael-j-mike-hirtes-mhirtes-slep-totem-sanic.32312/</ref>

==Discovery==

Many observers of Chris will have noted the presence of ween accounts in his Twitter replies for some time. However, much attention was not given to these accounts until Michael Hirtes was discovered on the [[Kiwi Farms]].

Hirtes was first called out when Farms member [https://kiwifarms.net/members/yawning-sneasel.231/ yawning sneasel] linked his Kiwi Farms account, [https://kiwifarms.net/members/michael-j-hirtes.14279/ Totem Sanic], to his @RektByLife (DaThingsIveSeen) Twitter account based on screencaps he had posted, which showed that he had the same Twitter profile picture as the one @RektByLife used. He was further incriminated when a post by him on the forums surfaced, where he praises DaThingsIveSeen for "doing GodBear's work". Furthermore, on the CWCki Club forums, user [http://cwcki.club/index.php?members/hurtful-truth-level.197/ Hurtful Truth Level] revealed that Totem Sanic had asked for credit mention for a tweet by his @EAT_SHITT_CHRIS (GIGANTIC_STRAW) account that Chris had replied to.

Hirtes subsequently complained about being banned in a forum post, which eventually culminated in his revelation as a gigantic laughing stock.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/this-is-why-we-dont-encourage-people-to-harass-chris.32290/</ref> In response to backlash, Hirtes posted a series of angry rants against Kiwi Farms administrator Null and the forum in general on Twitter.

<center><gallery>
File:HirtesTwitter1.png|The incriminating pieces of evidence.
File:Hirtesdp.jpg|Another screencap by Hirtes showing his @RektByLife display picture.
File:Hirtescreditmention.png|Hirtes asks for "credit mention" in response to a screencap of Chris's reply to his sock's tweet.
File:HirtesSalt.png|Mad at Null and the Kiwi Farms after his discovery.
</gallery></center>

As a result, Hirtes now has [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/michael-j-mike-hirtes-mhirtes-slep-totem-sanic.32312/ his very own thread] on the Kiwi Farms.

{{clear}}

==Twitter sockpuppets==

[[File:Penny donation may 2017.jpeg|thumb|150px|From [[monthly tugboat|tugboat]] recipient to tugboat recipient.]]

On [[Twitter]], both before and after he was discovered by the [[Kiwi Farms]], Hirtes has used numerous sockpuppet accounts to reply to Chris's tweets. Most of these replies are cookie-cutter rants chastising Chris for behavior that he, too, has been shown to have exhibited, usually through the use of worn-out Chris memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks. When he is not [[tard rage|autistically screeching]] at Chris, Hirtes is often found angrily tweeting at [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]]. His tweets are characterized by his usual writing style, along with a tendency to capitalize certain words (in contrast with Chris's style of only capitalizing the first letters of these words).

Hirtes sometimes uses other socks in order to reply to or like a tweet posted by one of his accounts. This is reminiscent of how Chris does the same thing with his [[NightStar2891]] account.

He donated a cent to Chris in response to the latter [[Minor Update, Handouts!|asking for no donations below a dollar]].

{{clear}}

===List of sockpuppets===

{{protip|Not all [[weening|weens]] are Hirtes. Just because they get angry over Chris on Twitter doesn't mean they should be included here.}}{| class="wikitable" style="width:100%"
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@RektByLife</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;"|
Dathingsiveseen
| Hirtes's most well-known sock, and the one he primarily operated on prior to his discovery. Created sometime before 16 September 2016.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Get_a_job_Chris</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Chris is A MALE
| Created on 29 March 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@GamestopJerkop</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Clyde Cash
| Created on 14 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Ghost_bob_BoOoO</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Ghost Bob
| Created on 18 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@shecameforcwc</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
shecameforCWC
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@JULAYYYYYYYYYYY</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Eviction Notice
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Nut_ward_nurse</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Pickle Man
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_Is_Ugly</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Lord_Hater
| Created on 29 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@LiquidClyde</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Clyde Cash
| Created on 1 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@BRRAAAAINSSSSSS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Zombie_Bob
| Created on 17 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CHRIS_IS_MALE</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Reality
| Created on 24 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@TROLLING_SUPER</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
TROLLING SUPER
| Created on 4 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Brute_male_CWC</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CWCs_Cumsicles
| Created on 5 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_IS_A_PEDO</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Left_Side_Hater
| Created on 12 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@FUKK_U_CHRIS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CWC_IS_MALE
| Created on 13 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@EAT_SHITT_CHRIS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
GIGANTIC STRAW
| Created on 13 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_IS_MALE</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_IS_A_FAT_MALE
| Created on 24 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@STINKO_MANBABY</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_CANT_STOP_ME
| Created on 27 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PICKLE_RIIIIIICK</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
PICKLE_RICK
| Created on 15 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@FLIPPINGUDABIRD</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
BIRD_IS_THE_WORD
| Created on 19 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@DangDirtyTroll</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
ItsDahKrumpas
| Created on 19 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@YYAH_YYAH_YYAH</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Dr_Hans_Asperger
| Created on 20 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Nannas_4_Barb</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
FOR_THE_HOARD
| Created on 2 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Bluearmsohno</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
MUGSHOT
| Created on 4 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PICKLE_LICKER</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
DISASTERCHU
| Created on 5 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@He_Wont_Get_Any</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_WANTS_LUV
| Created on 5 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PISSANDBURN</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Karate_Cole
| Created on 13 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@ItsThisAsshole</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
MisterBungle
| Created on 16 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@MarinerSentMe</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
RepoMan
| Created on 17 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@MANBABY_TANTRUM</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_IS_MAAAAD
| Created on 28 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Aspergercorn</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
DILDO_ON_FOREHEAD
| Created on 30 August 2017.
|}

==Chris's view on Hirtes==
Despite the effort Hirtes put into shitposting thousands of times about Chris, Chris himself barely pays him any attention. He was asked about Hirtes for a Q&A video, in which Chris responded that he felt pity for people like that<ref name=CWCopinion></ref>. In October 2017, nearly a year into Hirtes's spam crusade, Chris tagged his Twitter handle and said<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#Hirtes_is_impotent</ref>:

{{quote| While your comments do come into my view, I take them with the grain of salt, and shield my emotions and mind from your spite.}}

Amusingly, Chris came to Hirtes's defense in a tweet war between the latter and a white knight, saying, "Not all people who identify as furries are bad.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#On_furries</ref>"

Chris shared an anecdote about Hirtes to a Planet Dolan member who had complained of being trolled by someone with multiple accounts. Chris said:

{{quote|You block one, that same one comes back behind a different mask/account. Nowadays, I just make sure I do not have notifications turned on with this kid, and let him go on.|Hirtes only makes Chris stronger<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#On_blocking_trolls</ref>}}

However, despite Chris obviously not being affected by Hirtes' autistic spew, Hirtes still insists on milking [[Chris and anger|tardrage]] from the dead cow known as Chris.

==Gallery==

<center><gallery>
File:NewspaperHirtes.png|Hirtes makes an appearance in the local news. "Yiff! Yiff! That's what foxes say."
File:HirtesFirstTweet.png|Hirtes's first tweet to Chris.
File:Hirtes to Nowacking.png|An example of Hirtes's work.
File:Hirtes1.png|Hirtes replies to himself and likes his own tweets with separate accounts.
File:Hirtes2.png|Laughing at his own jokes.
File:Hirtescriminal.png|Hirtes and [[the Law]].
</gallery></center>

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Michael_Hirtes Hirtes's page on WikiFur]

{{People}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Hirtes, Michael}}
[[Category:People]]

Talk:Michael Hirtes

2017-11-02T06:39:12Z

Camille: /* Which of the links are dead? */

Michael Hirtes

2017-11-01T19:54:52Z

Camille:

:''"Totem Sanic" redirects here. For the [[Relic of Fail]], see [[Sonic Totem]].''

{{DeadLinks}}

{{quote|Everyone has an animal inside them struggling to be free. Don't be afraid to let him out! Yiff!|Hirtes to a newspaper reporter}}

{{quote|I feel sorry for them in such pitiful conditions and whatnot. I do.|Chris, on people like Hirtes<ref name=CWCopinion>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CLog_10042017_-_Q%26A_1#Question_19:_About_negativity_and_hate</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Michael Hirtes
| image = [[Image:Hirtes.png|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Michael Jay Hirtes
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = MHirtes Slep Totem Sanic [[Michael Hirtes#Twitter sockpuppets|Various others]]
|label3 = Date of Birth
|data3 = 16 April 1964 (age {{age|1964|4|16}})
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|data6 = White
|label11 = Occupations
|data11 = [[A-Logging|A-Log]] [[Weening|Ween]] Unemployed
}}

'''Michael Jay "Mike" Hirtes''' is a {{age|1964|4|16}}-year-old man from Council Bluffs, Iowa who has made a name for himself as both an [[A-Logging|A-Log]] and a [[weening|ween]]. Hirtes, also known as [[Kiwi Farms]] member '''Totem Sanic''', has created a multitude of [[Twitter]] accounts to follow Chris and spam him, as well as anyone he tweets to, with angry rants and accusations against him. Most of his rants against Chris consist of trite Chris memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks. Unlike the vast majority of A-Logs, including Anthony LoGatto himself, Hirtes's socks have actually been responded to by Chris, albeit rarely.

Hirtes was first discovered as a <abbr title="A lolcow first discovered as a consequence of his activity on the forum">halal</abbr> member of the Kiwi Farms, where he was outed as the operator of the Twitter account @RektByLife (since deleted), perhaps the most dedicated ween account following Chris at the time. Subsequent developments revealed that not only is Hirtes both older and more immature than Chris, but also that he, too, is [[Monthly tugboat|unemployed]], a [[Giant Penis Comic|furry]], prone to [[tard rage]], and has [[Chris and the law|gotten into trouble with the law]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/michael-j-mike-hirtes-mhirtes-slep-totem-sanic.32312/</ref>

==Discovery==

Many observers of Chris will have noted the presence of ween accounts in his Twitter replies for some time. However, much attention was not given to these accounts until Michael Hirtes was discovered on the [[Kiwi Farms]].

Hirtes was first called out when Farms member [https://kiwifarms.net/members/yawning-sneasel.231/ yawning sneasel] linked his Kiwi Farms account, [https://kiwifarms.net/members/michael-j-hirtes.14279/ Totem Sanic], to his @RektByLife (DaThingsIveSeen) Twitter account based on screencaps he had posted, which showed that he had the same Twitter profile picture as the one @RektByLife used. He was further incriminated when a post by him on the forums surfaced, where he praises DaThingsIveSeen for "doing GodBear's work". Furthermore, on the CWCki Club forums, user [http://cwcki.club/index.php?members/hurtful-truth-level.197/ Hurtful Truth Level] revealed that Totem Sanic had asked for credit mention for a tweet by his @EAT_SHITT_CHRIS (GIGANTIC_STRAW) account that Chris had replied to.

Hirtes subsequently complained about being banned in a forum post, which eventually culminated in his revelation as a gigantic laughing stock.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/this-is-why-we-dont-encourage-people-to-harass-chris.32290/</ref> In response to backlash, Hirtes posted a series of angry rants against Kiwi Farms administrator Null and the forum in general on Twitter.

<center><gallery>
File:HirtesTwitter1.png|The incriminating pieces of evidence.
File:Hirtesdp.jpg|Another screencap by Hirtes showing his @RektByLife display picture.
File:Hirtescreditmention.png|Hirtes asks for "credit mention" in response to a screencap of Chris's reply to his sock's tweet.
File:HirtesSalt.png|Mad at Null and the Kiwi Farms after his discovery.
</gallery></center>

As a result, Hirtes now has [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/michael-j-mike-hirtes-mhirtes-slep-totem-sanic.32312/ his very own thread] on the Kiwi Farms.

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==Twitter sockpuppets==

[[File:Penny donation may 2017.jpeg|thumb|150px|From [[monthly tugboat|tugboat]] recipient to tugboat recipient.]]

On [[Twitter]], both before and after he was discovered by the [[Kiwi Farms]], Hirtes has used numerous sockpuppet accounts to reply to Chris's tweets. Most of these replies are cookie-cutter rants chastising Chris for behavior that he, too, has been shown to have exhibited, usually through the use of worn-out Chris memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks. When he is not [[tard rage|autistically screeching]] at Chris, Hirtes is often found angrily tweeting at [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]]. His tweets are characterized by his usual writing style, along with a tendency to capitalize certain words (in contrast with Chris's style of only capitalizing the first letters of these words).

Hirtes sometimes uses other socks in order to reply to or like a tweet posted by one of his accounts. This is reminiscent of how Chris does the same thing with his [[NightStar2891]] account.

He donated a cent to Chris in response to the latter [[Minor Update, Handouts!|asking for no donations below a dollar]].

{{clear}}

===List of sockpuppets===

{{protip|Not all [[weening|weens]] are Hirtes. Just because they get angry over Chris on Twitter doesn't mean they should be included here.}}{| class="wikitable" style="width:100%"
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@RektByLife</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;"|
Dathingsiveseen
| Hirtes's most well-known sock, and the one he primarily operated on prior to his discovery. Created sometime before 16 September 2016.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Get_a_job_Chris</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Chris is A MALE
| Created on 29 March 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@GamestopJerkop</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Clyde Cash
| Created on 14 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Ghost_bob_BoOoO</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Ghost Bob
| Created on 18 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@shecameforcwc</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
shecameforCWC
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@JULAYYYYYYYYYYY</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Eviction Notice
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Nut_ward_nurse</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Pickle Man
| Created on 21 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_Is_Ugly</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Lord_Hater
| Created on 29 April 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@LiquidClyde</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Clyde Cash
| Created on 1 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@BRRAAAAINSSSSSS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Zombie_Bob
| Created on 17 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CHRIS_IS_MALE</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Reality
| Created on 24 May 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@TROLLING_SUPER</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
TROLLING SUPER
| Created on 4 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Brute_male_CWC</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CWCs_Cumsicles
| Created on 5 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_IS_A_PEDO</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Left_Side_Hater
| Created on 12 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@FUKK_U_CHRIS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CWC_IS_MALE
| Created on 13 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@EAT_SHITT_CHRIS</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
GIGANTIC STRAW
| Created on 13 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@CWC_IS_MALE</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_IS_A_FAT_MALE
| Created on 24 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@STINKO_MANBABY</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_CANT_STOP_ME
| Created on 27 June 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PICKLE_RIIIIIICK</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
PICKLE_RICK
| Created on 15 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@FLIPPINGUDABIRD</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
BIRD_IS_THE_WORD
| Created on 19 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@DangDirtyTroll</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
ItsDahKrumpas
| Created on 19 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@YYAH_YYAH_YYAH</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Dr_Hans_Asperger
| Created on 20 July 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Nannas_4_Barb</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
FOR_THE_HOARD
| Created on 2 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Bluearmsohno</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
MUGSHOT
| Created on 4 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PICKLE_LICKER</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
DISASTERCHU
| Created on 5 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@He_Wont_Get_Any</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_WANTS_LUV
| Created on 5 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@PISSANDBURN</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
Karate_Cole
| Created on 13 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@ItsThisAsshole</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
MisterBungle
| Created on 16 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@MarinerSentMe</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
RepoMan
| Created on 17 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@MANBABY_TANTRUM</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
CHRIS_IS_MAAAAD
| Created on 28 August 2017.
|-
| style="padding: 10px;"| <nowiki>@Aspergercorn</nowiki>
! style="padding: 5px;" |
DILDO_ON_FOREHEAD
| Created on 30 August 2017.
|}

==Chris's view on Hirtes==
Despite the effort Hirtes put into shitposting thousands of times about Chris, Chris himself barely pays him any attention. He was asked about Hirtes for a Q&A video, in which Chris responded that he felt pity for people like that<ref name=CWCopinion></ref>. In October 2017, nearly a year into Hirtes's spam crusade, Chris tagged his Twitter handle and said<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#Hirtes_is_impotent</ref>:

{{quote| While your comments do come into my view, I take them with the grain of salt, and shield my emotions and mind from your spite.}}

Amusingly, Chris came to Hirtes's defense in a tweet war between the latter and a white knight, saying, "Not all people who identify as furries are bad.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#On_furries</ref>"

Chris shared an anecdote about Hirtes to a Planet Dolan member who had complained of being trolled by someone with multiple accounts. Chris said:

{{quote|You block one, that same one comes back behind a different mask/account. Nowadays, I just make sure I do not have notifications turned on with this kid, and let him go on.|Hirtes only makes Chris stronger<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#On_blocking_trolls</ref>}}

However, despite Chris obviously not being affected by Hirtes' autistic spew, Hirtes still insists on milking [[Chris and anger|tardrage]] from the dead cow known as Chris.

==Gallery==

<center><gallery>
File:NewspaperHirtes.png|Hirtes makes an appearance in the local news. "Yiff! Yiff! That's what foxes say."
File:HirtesFirstTweet.png|Hirtes's first tweet to Chris.
File:Hirtes to Nowacking.png|An example of Hirtes's work.
File:Hirtes1.png|Hirtes replies to himself and likes his own tweets with separate accounts.
File:Hirtes2.png|Laughing at his own jokes.
File:Hirtescriminal.png|Hirtes and [[the Law]].
</gallery></center>

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Michael_Hirtes Hirtes's page on WikiFur]

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List of Chris's lies

2017-11-01T19:32:48Z

Camille:

{{Protip|STOP PIPING TO "LIE" AS IT IS EXTREMELY OVER-PIPED. Try piping to something more specific and only pipe to "Lie" when nothing else works. The "Fail" article was deleted as a result of being overpiped, and you certainly don't want this to be deleted as well.}}
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{{quote|Your letter has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. Thank you for your time and efforts.|A classic lie from [[Mailbag 52]].}}

{{quote|I do not lie all the time; I lie some of the time.|[[Chris]], lying during the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]]}}

[[Chris]], not being one to accept personal responsibility, will frequently '''lie''' to save face. This trait was likely inherited from his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]], whose dishonesty [[Cole Smithey E-mails|was described]] by [[Cole Smithey]] as "pathological".

In many cases, he will lie in a meager attempt to be "clever" or "outwit" the [[trolls]]. However, Chris is totally incapable of lying in a way that looks remotely convincing, so his lies have the opposite effect (e.g. [[CWC_Update_26_January_2009|going to Redmond]]). In other cases, he will lie to deny accepting personal responsibility for his [[Autism|actions]] (e.g. drawing [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Rule 34]] of [[Megan Schroeder]]).

The reason why Chris is capable of telling bald-faced lies while still claiming to be [[Honest Content|true and honest]] probably derives from failing to understand the concept of a "white lie": a lie told out of courtesy to avoid trouble and/or offending people. Because telling this kind of lie usually is socially acceptable and won't tarnish one's reputation, Chris, in his usual blindness to social rules, probably learned through his [[autistic|brain]] that it is okay to lie in order to save face, because it is possible to do so while still remaining true and honest.

Complicating this further is the fact that Chris does not attempt to support his claims with any shred of evidence, and will contradict his lies with even more lies. The end result is that Chris is more or less a compulsive liar.

Chris has taken to calling his lying [[CWC-isms|"misspeaking"]]. Instead of accepting that someone has called him out on his bullshit, he prefers to say he "misspoke". Needless to say, no one has fallen for this new ploy.

This list serves to document as many of Chris's blatant falsehoods as possible. While Chris is known to speak half-truth, exaggerate, etc., the fact that he is willing to outright tell blatant lies and untruths with no grounds in reality is disturbing and this list serves to document the latter.

==Chris's lies==
* Chris claimed that mowing the lawn was a demanding physical chore for him, despite using a riding lawnmower to do it (though, in Chris's defense, it's entirely possible that mowing a lawn even with the aid of a riding lawnmower could have been genuinely physically demanding for him [[Chris and health|given what we know about his health]]).
* In a [[Mumble]] chat, he lied and said that [[nudes|nude]] photos of him on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] were photoshopped, despite consenting to the photos.<ref>[[Mumble 2|Mumble Chat #2]], ~44 minute mark</ref> Chris also lied to someone he believed to be [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] about the ED images being photoshopped.<ref name="ReferenceA">[[Miyamoto Saga#From Chris to Miyamoto]]</ref>
* For two days, Chris claimed to have a new [[sweetheart]] named [[Chloe]] after the [[Blanca]] breakup. The first mention was to his fans, of all people.<ref>[[Chris's Sonichu IRC Chloe Introduction]]</ref> Yet, if he were already seeing Chloe, why was he sad about breaking up with Blanca? Chris claimed to have met Chloe IRL at [[GameStop]], where they struck up a conversation, yet Chris has constantly said he freezes even while practicing talking to women.<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref> He even said that they had a date together at Taco Bell and shared his first kiss with her. The most damning evidence is Chris never mentioned Chloe again. Furthermore, as of [[Mailbag 13|Mailbag #13]], he says that he has "no recollection of a Chloe."
* Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 26th, 2009|lied]] about taking a trip to Redmond because he had no financial support and to get a "Peaceful Weekend Getaway from the Trolls of the internet."<ref name="ReferenceA"/>
* Chris claims he jogs regularly for more than 20 seconds, [[Sonichu's Edge|despite proving he is incapable of doing so.]]
* Chris [[Piedmont_Virginia_Community_College#Kicked_Out_of_College|claimed]] that he was kicked out of class because he was autistic, when the [[Jackie_Chat_5|real reason]] was him making a homophobic (and racist) comment in front of everyone. However, it may very well be that Chris considers such behavior to be inherent in austistic individuals (and is therefore excusable/not his responsibility).
* Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|claimed]] that [[Blanca]] received the [[medallion]] and sent it back so Chris could modify it, yet the medallion with the "special marks" was destroyed on YouTube. Furthermore, in a private chat with [[Robert Simmons V]]{{cite}}, Chris admits that the medallion was procured and was hastily working on a new one to throw the trolls off guard.
* When a nefarious IRL [[Jerkop]] confronted Chris on his [[Attraction Sign]], Chris quickly hid the sign while the Jerkop left to get the [[Manajerk]]. Then, Chris proceeded to lie and pretend he never brought the sign, resulting in him being banned from the store.
* Chris claimed that he was banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] forever for going behind the counter. In fact, as revealed by [[Mimms]] on the PVCC forum, the ban for going behind the counter was temporary, and what got him banned forever was the fact that he got into a shouting match with a child and treated the [[Michael Snyder|store's manager]] rudely. Possibly, Chris was mistaken, as he can be [[Slow-in-the-minds|slow in the mind]] sometimes.
* In an e-mail,<ref>[[Chris E-mails 2008]] - "Against me, [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|that page]] has broken the closest thing I've had to a relationship with Megan Schroeder, who I've finally had at her first time of saying with feeling, 'I Love You' to me, then she found that page and she broke up with me."</ref> Chris claimed Megan said she loved him, when in reality she said no such thing.
* He has made occasional claims<ref>See [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 18th, 2009]] and [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 29th, 2009]].</ref> that he really doesn't hate [[homos]], despite several instances of him showing otherwise.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]], [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE]], [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]], [[It's UGH!]], [[CWC "Boyfriend"]], [[Bless the Fans, Curse the Trolls]]</ref>
* In an [[IRC (20 January 2009)|IRC chat]]<ref>[[IRC (20 January 2009)]] at 21:21</ref> with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[BILLY MAYS]], Chris told Clyde, "People who call others homo are themselves in dire question of their own sexual preferences." When Clyde pointed out that Chris had called Clyde a homo just minutes earlier in the same chat, Chris lied that he didn't. When Chris was shown the exact words he typed, he said it didn't count because he was retaliating against Clyde's remark.
* Impersonated [[CChanSonichuCWC]] and called [[Kacey]], telling her about his sexual fantasies (which involves [[recycling]]).<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>
* Chris's challenges to CChanSonichuCWC began with a [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 29th, 2009|video]] in Spanish, stating that if Liquid Chris could not respond in Spanish, that would prove he is the impostor. When that backfired horribly, Chris then issued the [[SingStar Challenge|''SingStar'' Challenge]] to determine who is the real Chris. When Chris lost the ''SingStar'' Challenge, he declared that the contest meant nothing.
* Chris made a fake page<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20071108233910/http://members.aol.com/CWCSonichu/EPPromotions283.html</ref> mimicking [[PS3|PlayStation]].com that showed him as the winner of the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa'' contest]].
* Trying to sound like a tough guy, Chris claimed in a [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 15th, 2009|15 October 2009]] Captain's Log entry that he "did not give a dang" about the reappearance of [[Liquid Chris]], which is obviously not true since Solid devoted the entire first half of the Captain's Log to discrediting Liquid. Solid also stated that it would be the last time he mentioned Liquid, so of course he mentioned him again in [[Brutal Legend Plus|a video six days later]]. In that video, Solid even used one of [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_1#CChanSonichuCWC.27s_Entry|Liquid's ''SingStar'' Challenge songs]] to mock the [[trolls]] (the song's original purpose being to mock Solid), proving that Liquid does indeed still agitate him.
* In [[Mailbag 14|Mailbag #14]], Chris offered a revisionist account of his ejection from [[Grace Baptist Church]], claiming that he was banned from the congregation because his pastor "found images of women in bikinis on my Facebook; he was offended." In fact, as Chris himself revealed in an e-mail to [[Lordsillynipples]] in 2008, he was kicked out after his pastor discovered the catalog of Chris's sexually deviant behavior on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], as well as the deranged YouTube rant from his [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|25th birthday]].
* In [[Mailbag 25|Mailbag #25]], Chris revealed that he told [[Bob Chandler|his father]] that he had taken the videos of the [[14 Branchland Ct.|Chandler house]] off the Internet. The videos are still available on YouTube.
* Chris began receiving e-mails in [[January 2010]] pointing out to him that his drawings of the Raichu from which Rosechu spawned in [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] had a pointed tail instead of a blunted one, meaning the Raichu was male. What makes this incident unique is that Chris could have easily resolved the entire conflict. Since Chris is a longtime fan of the series, he could have easily thought "Wait a sec, when did male and female Pokemon start using different sprites again?", done a few quick searches online, and found that all Raichu were drawn with pointed tails prior to 2006. Eventually, after Chris uploaded an edited page and claimed that the tail had been blunt all along, he had this realization...after someone else showed him Bulbapedia.
* In early [[February 2010]], Chris added a note to the [[CWCipedia]] page for [[Simonla Rosechu]] which claimed that she is a completely original character, and not a sloppy knockoff of [[Evan]] George's [[Simonla_Rosechu|Simonchu]]. This was, of course, an obvious lie, contradicted by Chris's own e-mails and other statements about Simonla's creation. Later, in a [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 4|phone conversation]] with Alec Benson Leary, Chris acted surprised that anyone would be unwilling to accept this "retraction" of the truth, suggesting that he doesn't even comprehend why people might not believe his lies.
* On Chris's [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 5|fifth phone call with Alec]], Chris very quickly found his own logic being used against him. To extricate himself from having to admit he was wrong, Chris instead set the phone down and very unconvincingly pretended to be his own [[Barbara Chandler|mother]], carrying on a small "conversation" with Chris asking him to clean up some [[Chandler cats|cat shit]]. Chris then came back to the phone to tell Alec his mom needed him to take care of the cat and that he had to hang up.
* During the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|eighth conversation with Alec]], Chris claims Nintendo sent him a letter saying Chris had free reign to use Pikachu in his comic, but when Alec asked Chris to upload the letter, Chris said he "misplaced" it. Also, during the call, Chris confidently stated that he "regularly" plays every single one of the games he owns — this being a valid reason he could not sell them for money. Chris owns [[List of Chris's games|roughly 600]] different video games, so unless Chris has figured out [[Time Void|a way to stop time]], it would be impossible for him to play all of those games regularly.
* Chris went to great lengths to tell the fans that he would never show gore and violence in his comics. However, he breaks this statement by killing Evan in a very gory fashion in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. He later insists in [[Jackie_Chat_1|his first chat with Jackie]] that it was justified because Alec "gored it up first." Episode #17, which was written long before ''Asperchu'' even began, ended with Rosechu stripping naked, ''clawing a man's head open'', ''electrocuting him'', and ''leaving him in a puddle of his own blood''.
* When the trolls started to demand more comics, Chris stated that he was never sure whether he wanted to make money with ''Sonichu''; if that were true, he would never have tried to make a [[Sonichu Adventure|video game]] about ''[[Sonichu]]'', nor try to sell it to businesspeople.
* Chris has repeatedly referred to [[The Wallflower]] as his "girlfriend", despite making a video [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|pleading for her to be with him]], and, in fact, complaining about her essentially putting him in the [[friend zone]].
* Chris promised to [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|"remove [him]self from the Internet"]], only to [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant|return in less than 48 hours]].
* [[Michael_Snyder_is_ColdHearted_and_Mean|While trying to get himself back into The GAMe PLACe]], Chris told Michael Snyder that he's become a better person. This is after all the things he's done since [[2008#April|April 2008]]. He ends this meeting by calling Michael a Jew, despite stating he had nothing against Jews not five minutes earlier.
* Chris's [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia article about The Wallflower]] contains some of the biggest flights of fancy, blatant lies, exaggerations, half-truths, and flat-out delusions seen yet from Chris outside of the [[Father Call]]. Specifically, he claimed that he and The Wallflower had shared a kiss; since this would have been Chris's "real" first kiss (aside from "[[Chloe]]", a lie), it was considered important by obsessive CWCki editors to see if he remembers it later (the Wallflower CWCipedia page article was written on April the 19th). Naturally...[[Jackie e-mails Part 2|leaked e-mails from Jackie]] show that by the 10th of April, ''nine days before making this highly suspicious claim'', Chris had either a.) [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Jackie.27s_Questionaire_1|momentarily forgotten that he had been kissed]] — a monumental occasion in his life; b,) lied on his CWCipedia about being kissed; or c.) lied to Jackie about being kissed. In the end, a lie is still a lie, although it's ''possible'' he's basing his story on a gross exaggeration of the truth (the two sharing a drinking straw is the current troll favorite for this).
* In [[Mailbag 49|Mailbag #49]], when asked about his opinion on a possible repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy that would allow open homosexuals to serve in the U.S. military, Chris said that he thought the policy should only be repealed so that "the [[homos]] can go die in explosions." When called out on this in [[Mailbag 51|several]] [[Mailbag 53|later]] [[Mailbag 54|Mailbags]], Chris forgoes apology to either deny the claim ever took place, or claimed that he had retracted it. Later, he would alter an e-mail in [[Mailbag 51|Mailbag #51]] which contained the quoted remark to make it appear as though Chris was being pro-gay in the original e-mail. Up until the death of the CWCipedia in May 2010, the original, homophobic reply in [[Mailbag 49|Mailbag #49]] remained unchanged and unretracted.
* In the [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|e-mails]] with Clyde Cash and [[Surfshack Tito]] about Chris's PS3, Chris swore that he would not reveal the name of his [[Jackie|new girlfriend]]. He broke this promise in [[To Jackie, with Love.MOV|a video]] not two weeks later.
* Also in the [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails]], Chris said he would not buy another PS3. Not only did he do that and begin earning trophies about two weeks later, he also bought a PS Move controller ([[ECV 00001|seen in this video]]).
* In [[Jackie_E-mails_23|an e-mail exchange with Jackie]], he claims his [[Duck|penis]] is bigger than previously photographed and is no longer bent.
* Chris told [[Vivian Gee]] that he read her book, ''[[A Girl Who Brought Down the World]]'', when, in reality, he gave it to [[Rocky Shoemaker|his pastoral counselor]], and never touched it beyond that.<ref>[[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke]]</ref>
* In the [[Miyamoto emails]], Chris claims he never sexually harassed [[Megan Schroeder]], despite drawing [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]], and Megan repeatedly having told Chris to stop touching her.<ref>[[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006]]</ref><ref>[[Megan_Emails,_Jan-July_2007]]</ref><ref>[[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007]]</ref>
* On the [[Tomboys_and_Tomgirls_of_Virginia]] forum, he said that if homosexuals 'kept it behind closed doors', he wouldn't bother them. Aside from his well-known issues with [[Homos]], his comic states that if he had the power, he'd constantly [[Magi-Chan|be on the lookout for homosexual activity]], and punish them to suit.
* In [[You're Always Pretty]], Chris told his mother he was taking pictures of her, when he was really video taping her.
* When Chris informed his [[mother]] that he [[PS3#Destruction|destroyed his PS3]], he told her that the machine was already malfunctioning before he smashed it to bits. In reality the PS3 was still operational when Chris decided to put it out of use.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 11]]</ref>
* When he held the [[Alex's Lemonade Stand|lemonade stand]], he claimed that his father died of cancer, when in fact, he died of complications from heart failure. However, this could just be Chris assuming [[Bob]] died of cancer because he had it (at least at one point), and not taking time to look into his actual cause of death.
* Chris told [[Jackie]] in an email that he has grown tolerant of the [[HEXBox|Xbox 360]] and respects those who own one, but recently in 2013, Chris went back on his word by defacing a display for the Xbox One at his local [[Mal-Wart|Walmart]], thus proving that his bizarre hatred for the HEX-BOX is still strong.
* Despite Chris' obvious morbid [[Obesity|obesity]], he has always lied about his weight, being evasive and giving numbers that are more consistent with [[Chris and reality|his own delusional self image than reality]]. As early as [[February 2010]], Chris admitted that he had at one point weighed more than 220 pounds. On Facebook on 4 January 2014, he claimed that he [[Obesity#Actual weight|weighed only 202 pounds]], despite his obvious sagging, triple chin visible in his profile picture. Users of the CWCki forums generally speculated that, based on the photographic evidence, he was probably underestimating his own weight by at least 60 pounds (~27 kilograms).
* When Catherine said no to a relationship with Chris, Chris told her that [[Catherine_E-mails#It_IS_Your_Fault.21|he was entitled to a relationship]]. In a [[Catherine_E-mails#Re:_Well.2C_that.27s_nypical|later e-mail]] ''(presumably after being called on his bullshit)'', he claimed he said no such thing. On that note, he also publicly referred to her as his "girlfriend" for months, despite Catie saying to him point-blank that their outings were not dates.
* Chris has stated that he has D-cup breasts. Kiwi Farms users have determined that they are actually A-cups.
* Chris did a promotion where if someone sent him a PS4 for his birthday, they would get a $500 coupon for his custom made Sonichu Amiibos. Obviously nobody sent him a PS4, but that didn't stop him from saying someone did. He claims someone named Kagney Lynn bought him the PS4, but closer examination of his Facebook page shows that the details of the order are linked to Fingerhut, the company he bought the PS4 from. This proves he bought the system himself.
* In [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation]], Chris lied about his Etsy shop being on vacation, when it had been forcibly closed by Etsy staff, due to repeated complaints that he was not delivering orders. He also lied about working to set up a Zazzle shop; he decided to [[beg]] for handouts over the next several months instead.
* Chris lied about seeing a doctor about the [[Un-clit 2.0]] and later about the picture being an elaborate troll.
* Chris continually lied about his "creative groove" being "killed" because [[Lulu]] banned him. In reality, he had stopped work on the comic long before that happened, and he had even solved the publisher problem within a month, by sneaking back onto Lulu under an alternate name.
* Chris repeatedly lied about his reason for selling [[EBay|his father's stamp collection]], claiming he needed money for bills but immediately spending it all on toys<ref>[[Financhu Crisis#March_.2717]]</ref>.

{{Lists}}
{{Chris and}}

==Sources==
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[[Category:Lists]]

Sam and Ellen

2017-11-01T19:28:29Z

Camille:

{{stub}}

'''Sam''' and '''Ellen''' were a lesbian couple who considered Chris as a surrogate father after meeting on a forum. In [[Chris's Specimen Sample|a video where Chris shows off his home-frozen sperm kept in his kitchen freezer]], he addresses them as '''Samantha''' and '''Ellie'''.

[[Johan]], a former gay porn star, was Chris' main competition. He made Sam and Ellen aware of some of Chris's previous exploits such as the [[cakefarts]] video and the [[Megan Schroeder]] saga , which cast serious doubts on Chris' viability. Though unclear who put forth the challenge, all parties agreed that Chris and Johan would both make videos to prove their sexual prowess and the winner would be decided through an online poll. Around 7000 votes were cast, with Johan taking a 16-point lead over Chris, despite the latter accusing the former of having an STD and being a bully. Sam and Ellen have yet to be heard of again since; it's generally assumed they chose Johan to impregnate one of them and lived happily ever after with a child that was (thankfully) not Chris's.

== Chris's Video ==
{{Infobox/video
| name = IMG 3207
| video = {{#ev:youtube|1zosxGbUdLo}}
| stardate =31 [[May 2016]]
| subject = {{Sex|text}}
| Saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| shirt = Bra and Tights
| previous = [[CWC vs Johan vote link]]
| next = [[Happy Cat *kisses*]]
}}

==Johan's Video (mirror, NSFW)==

https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/lekeksz/m/johan-sextape/

{{People}}
[[Category:People]]

Sam and Ellen

2017-11-01T19:25:39Z

Camille:

{{stub}}

'''Sam''' and '''Ellen''' were a lesbian couple who considered Chris as a surrogate father after meeting on a forum. In [[Chris's Specimen Sample|a video where Chris shows off his home-frozen sperm kept in his kitchen freezer]], he addresses them as '''Samantha''' and '''Ellie'''.

[[Johan]], a former gay porn star, was Chris' main competition. He made Sam and Ellen aware of some of Chris's previous exploits such as the [[cakefarts]] incident and [[Megan Schroeder]], which cast serious doubts on Chris' viability. Though unclear who put forth the challenge, all parties agreed that Chris and Johan would both make videos to prove their sexual prowess and the winner would be decided through an online poll. Around 7000 votes were cast, with Johan taking a 16 percent lead over Chris. Sam and Ellen have yet to be heard of again since; it's generally assumed they chose Johan to impregnate one of them and lived happily ever after with a child that was not Chris's.

== Chris's Video ==
{{Infobox/video
| name = IMG 3207
| video = {{#ev:youtube|1zosxGbUdLo}}
| stardate =31 [[May 2016]]
| subject = {{Sex|text}}
| Saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| shirt = Bra and Tights
| previous = [[CWC vs Johan vote link]]
| next = [[Happy Cat *kisses*]]
}}

==Johan's Video (mirror, NSFW)==

https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/lekeksz/m/johan-sextape/

{{People}}
[[Category:People]]

Talk:Autism

2017-11-01T09:42:52Z

Camille: /* Genetics and Autism */

==To do==
*List things Chris has blamed on his autism (like inability to get a girlfriend).
*the e-mail from the Miyamoto saga where he discusses the differences between autism and Asperger's syndrome.
*possible insight from the song [[A-U-T-ISM]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:39, 23 March 2009 (CET)

== Some other things caused by autism==
Chris bad hygiene might be caused by sensory overload, meaning that things live showering are actually extremly unpleasant or even hurtful for him.
Autistics are very picky eaters; food has to have a certain texture and taste or they have a hard time eating it. And since fastfood is basically all the greasy same...
The last thing is something that actually plagues many females with Asperger: They don't feel fully like a woman but also not like a man, their animus and anima are balanced out.
I know this stuff from the German book "Aspergirls" which is about women with Aspergers... Don't know if there is an English translation of it, but I wanted to share these insights with you. --[[User:Raspberry|Raspberry]]

== Question for people who know anything about psychology ==

This is just something I was thinking lately - I realised that good character design needs empathy too. Would anyone say that Chris's lack of empathy also shows up in his character designs? Because to me, he seems to be unable to come up with characters that are outside of his own capabilities, or their polar opposites. His "hero" characters all seem to think like he does. For example, Simonla (or whoever it was) in the date ed episode wanted to name her daughter before she's even found her date - ''because that's what Chris does too''. His villain characters seem to be all based on his views and prejudices, and polar opposites of what he believes in, which makes it easier for him to picture them. Just look at Jason's rant in the Rage Against Garbage: rather than giving the characters unique personalities, he makes them list why they are evil. Good guys are good guys because they do things that are positive in Chris's mind, and bad guys are bad because they do things Chris doesn't approve of. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 13:30, 11 July 2009 (CEST)
*I think that's a fair thing to say. That's why most autistics and ASS PIES tend to become physicists or mathematicians and not writers and poets. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:44, 23 November 2009 (CET)

== Autism papers==
Incorporate shit from [[Autism papers]] into here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:44, 23 November 2009 (CET)

==Chris and Asperger Syndrome==
I propose that we make this into a section on this article, as Chris has made his childish stance on Asperger's pretty clear. He went from seemingly confusing it as Alzheimer's Disease to out right denying it as an Autistic Spectrum Disorder or even a disorder similar to autism for some other kind of issue, likely an egotistical one. What does everyone else think?--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 20:17, 28 November 2009 (CET)
* Not a bad idea. The Asperger's paragraph takes up a big chunk of the intro there, and I think I some more grist for that mill has shown up since that bit was written. Chris is still confused on the whole Alzheimer's/Asperger's tip, he obviously had them mixed up during the Father Call. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 20:31, 28 November 2009 (CET)

With his recent rants on the subject, which seem to indicate that he hates aspies the same way he hates homos, I'm thinking Aspergers Might deserve it's own article. Anyone with me on this? --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:02, 5 December 2009 (CET)
* Yeah, if people wanna break down the comparison between autism and Asperger's in detail and extensively excerpt from the reams of all-over-the-map stupid shit Chris has said about it in the Mailbag, I think that should be its own article. Like I say, I thought the subsection of this article was getting way too big and unwieldy with all the pull quotes and whatnot. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 08:15, 5 December 2009 (CET)
*Very good idea. I was going to transform the Asperger's CWCipedia article into it but I think we can still have a separate article on Asperger's and another of just CWCipedia's article since it's a major Chris writing that explains the difference. But definitely, Asperger's can become a separate article since we have a lot of details now, not to mention it's a huge, recurring theme in the Mailbag which can also be documented. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:02, 5 December 2009 (CET)

I think that it really needs to be noted that many people think of "Aspergers" and "high-functioning autism" as being essentially identical and interchangeable, so for that reason, a lot of people assume that Chris "has" Aspergers (whatever that means) and/or claims to have Aspergers (which is definitely not true). I'm not even sure if there really is a universal consensus regarding a distinction between the two. [[User:Senzuri|Senzuri]] 16:27, 5 December 2009 (CET)

Asperger's syndrome should still be mentioned here, as people might be coming here expecting to see something about Asperger's, so something brief about how Chris views Asperger's syndrome as being different from autism, with a ''Main article: [[Asperger's syndrome]].'' --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:51, 19 December 2009 (CET)

==Does he even have any idea what autism is?==

He seems to talk a lot about his "autistic shell" and the autism "putting the mute button on him" when he was younger. Is there any evidence to suggest that he thinks autism is anything other than just difficulty speaking?

True, there are language delays associated with autism, but his description of his autistic shell sounds more like anxiety over knowing that every single social interaction he's ever been in before whichever one he's in his autistic shell over has failed miserably. His fucked-up and out-of-control behavior that he refuses to do anything about trying to change is more symptomatic of autism than his knowing other people aren't going to respond well to it. I mean, if you were a grown man thinking about blithering on to a decent human being about the piece-of-shit, sexually perverse, rip-off children's comic you center your life around but never draw, wouldn't you be a little anxious about it, too?

Am I just fucked up here, or...? —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 19:18, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
: I'm pretty sure that he has a general idea about what it is and what it does, but since this is Chris we're talking about; I doubt that we should expect him to understand all of it. --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 19:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe. I mean, maybe he can define it or read off a printout of a description of it or whatever, but can you think of any specific reference he's made to any symptom in his life other than having difficulty talking? Not in general like just that he's a virgin or something—not that he doesn't blame that on not talking and people hating autistic people or whatever. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 05:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I think you're on to something. I don't know that there's much we can actually write about it, because most of what there is to say would be guesswork and inference, but I'd wager that most of what Chris knows about autism boils down to: one, he has it, two, it makes him special, and three, it's a catch-all excuse. The autism awareness/sports bra video might be a springboard for adding a new section to the article, maybe - when Chris wanted to talk about autism in any kind of detail he had to print himself out a crib sheet from Wikipedia. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 11:34, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::: Well, he definitely doesn't understand all of it, but I can imagine his parents nagging him about it to an extend where he at least has a general idea of what it does. I agree with Dkaien though, you're definitely on to something. --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 12:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::: I can definitely understand wanting to avoid guesswork and inference. Obviously, no one knows exactly what's going on inside someone else's head. I guess at the very least I'm suggesting a list of things Chris ''hasn't'' blamed on his autism that maybe he should. He claims to hate autism and want a cure for it and this and that, but then he fucking ''loves'' Sonichu as though Sonichu isn't just a major, debilitating symptom or outgrowth of the autism. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 03:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Not entirely Chris related, but... ==

I just read an article in popular science about how there are more autistics now than trained therapists, so to cope with he shortage people are inventing "theraputic robots" that somehow make it easier for autistic children to be sociable. The results are pretty hit-and-miss at this stage but what I took away was that autistics are better at handling predictable machines, but could be gradually exposed to more unpredictable circumstances. Maybe we could apply this in future plans? I think the reason CWCipedia collapsed was either our trolling became too predictable, or we made his "comfort zone" too sporadic. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:0.5% of the entire population is autistic and they recon that that population is rising, however autism is over-diagnosed. On Chris ide think the best way to troll him is to claim that he is not autistic and/or simply retarded. [[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]]
:Hmmmm! That idea ain't too shabby! I'd suggest discussing it in the troll forums. Perhaps that way we can finally obtain the Holy Grail of fail?---[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 10:12, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

== List of autistics ==

Should we make a list of succesful people who have or are thought to have autism, and compare them to chris? I know of a lot of famous people who were diagnosed with autism, and a lot of people who were thought to have it.
*I was thinking about this for a while, but I don't really see how a detailed comparison is better than just saying "Chris does shit he can't blame on autism". What would be the advantage of this? [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 06:09, 20 December 2010 (PST)
*I think something like that would be too distracting to the Chris focus that the article should have, not to mention people who want to see such as list can find one elsewhere. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:40, 20 December 2010 (PST)
* how about we make a link to the wikipedia for it --[[User:MrMaXimo|MrMaXimo]] 12:17 24 December 2010 (PST)

== This goes here? ==

I was reading over the last e-mail exchange with Jackie and Chris's phrase "Hurtful Truth Level" jumped out at me as another example of him making things concrete in his mind, such as Scale of Respect or Heart Level. I made mention of it in what I think is the proper place in this article, but I was wondering if it deserves its own CWC-ism. [[User:Draygoon|Draygoon]] 23:12, 3 January 2011 (PST)

==Mainstreaming==
Like most everything else regarding autism, psychology, and, well, anything, Chris doesn't understand this. The ultimate goal of mainstreaming is to allow the patient to live as independently as possible in a normal environment, rather than being dependent on a caretaker to adapt the environment to suit the needs of the patient. In other words, adapt the autistic to live in the real world, as opposed to adapting the real world to fit the autistic. What mainstreaming means to Chris is to just not do any therapy at all and dump the kid into a world he/she cannot handle after being in retard day camp for a few years. It's amusing that Chris parrots good advice without actually knowing what it means. [[User:Anonymous one|Anonymous one]] 15:56, 2 April 2011 (PDT)

==Parental age==
There are studies showing a significant statistical correspondence between age of the parents (particularly the father) and the incidence of autism in the offspring. (Some studies show no correlation, but most authorities accept the theory.) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect#Autism_spectrum_disorder Wikipedia link] This probably deserves mention on the page, but I'm not sure where to put it. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 14:58, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

==Potential trouble for our autistic hero?==
http://t.co/pbwjRmpY --[[User:ItLurksInTheWalls|ItLurksInTheWalls]] 15:07, 25 January 2012 (PST)
:[[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|Not a forum]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 16:06, 25 January 2012 (PST)

== Connection With Obesity? ==

[http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-autism-obese-mothers-20120409,0,1741964.story This LA Times story] talks about a link between fat ass pregnant women and autistic children. Is this worthy of mention? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 21:42, 9 April 2012 (PDT)
:Barbara appears significantly thinner in older pictures than she does in more recent ones, so I doubt there's any connection.[[User:Bzam|Bzam]] 20:46, 25 November 2012 (PST)

== Genetics and Autism ==

Since autism is something that can be passed on to offspring, who did Chris get his autism from? [[User:Steampunk Mage|Steampunk Mage]] ([[User talk:Steampunk Mage|talk]]) 03:14, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

It's debatable. Autism is caused by a combination of hereditary factors, genetic mutation, and physical environment. If Chris's was genetic, then it's unlikely that it was inherited, as no one else in the family had clear signs of autism.
Based on my rusty knowledge from AP Biology, if Chris's autism was genetic, then he would likely have had a small, yet rare variation in the lettering sequence of his DNA transcription. Humans usually have a couple letters in their DNA transcription varying from the regular mean (~1% of the RNA). However, rarer mutations usually lead to more serious consequences, Chris being a possible example (not proven). It should also be noted that offspring of two parents aren't exactly products of the parents' genes blended together; while they do inherit traits from their parents, but they also have their own individual traits as well. In other words, the creation of offspring is a lot more complex that Mendel would've wanted it to be. In Chris's case, his autism probably not an inherited cause, even if it was genetics.

I hope this isn't too much information to take in, and that it answers your question!

-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 2:49 1 November 2017 (PDT)

Talk:Autism

2017-11-01T09:41:52Z

Camille: /* Genetics and Autism */

==To do==
*List things Chris has blamed on his autism (like inability to get a girlfriend).
*the e-mail from the Miyamoto saga where he discusses the differences between autism and Asperger's syndrome.
*possible insight from the song [[A-U-T-ISM]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:39, 23 March 2009 (CET)

== Some other things caused by autism==
Chris bad hygiene might be caused by sensory overload, meaning that things live showering are actually extremly unpleasant or even hurtful for him.
Autistics are very picky eaters; food has to have a certain texture and taste or they have a hard time eating it. And since fastfood is basically all the greasy same...
The last thing is something that actually plagues many females with Asperger: They don't feel fully like a woman but also not like a man, their animus and anima are balanced out.
I know this stuff from the German book "Aspergirls" which is about women with Aspergers... Don't know if there is an English translation of it, but I wanted to share these insights with you. --[[User:Raspberry|Raspberry]]

== Question for people who know anything about psychology ==

This is just something I was thinking lately - I realised that good character design needs empathy too. Would anyone say that Chris's lack of empathy also shows up in his character designs? Because to me, he seems to be unable to come up with characters that are outside of his own capabilities, or their polar opposites. His "hero" characters all seem to think like he does. For example, Simonla (or whoever it was) in the date ed episode wanted to name her daughter before she's even found her date - ''because that's what Chris does too''. His villain characters seem to be all based on his views and prejudices, and polar opposites of what he believes in, which makes it easier for him to picture them. Just look at Jason's rant in the Rage Against Garbage: rather than giving the characters unique personalities, he makes them list why they are evil. Good guys are good guys because they do things that are positive in Chris's mind, and bad guys are bad because they do things Chris doesn't approve of. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 13:30, 11 July 2009 (CEST)
*I think that's a fair thing to say. That's why most autistics and ASS PIES tend to become physicists or mathematicians and not writers and poets. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:44, 23 November 2009 (CET)

== Autism papers==
Incorporate shit from [[Autism papers]] into here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:44, 23 November 2009 (CET)

==Chris and Asperger Syndrome==
I propose that we make this into a section on this article, as Chris has made his childish stance on Asperger's pretty clear. He went from seemingly confusing it as Alzheimer's Disease to out right denying it as an Autistic Spectrum Disorder or even a disorder similar to autism for some other kind of issue, likely an egotistical one. What does everyone else think?--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 20:17, 28 November 2009 (CET)
* Not a bad idea. The Asperger's paragraph takes up a big chunk of the intro there, and I think I some more grist for that mill has shown up since that bit was written. Chris is still confused on the whole Alzheimer's/Asperger's tip, he obviously had them mixed up during the Father Call. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 20:31, 28 November 2009 (CET)

With his recent rants on the subject, which seem to indicate that he hates aspies the same way he hates homos, I'm thinking Aspergers Might deserve it's own article. Anyone with me on this? --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:02, 5 December 2009 (CET)
* Yeah, if people wanna break down the comparison between autism and Asperger's in detail and extensively excerpt from the reams of all-over-the-map stupid shit Chris has said about it in the Mailbag, I think that should be its own article. Like I say, I thought the subsection of this article was getting way too big and unwieldy with all the pull quotes and whatnot. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 08:15, 5 December 2009 (CET)
*Very good idea. I was going to transform the Asperger's CWCipedia article into it but I think we can still have a separate article on Asperger's and another of just CWCipedia's article since it's a major Chris writing that explains the difference. But definitely, Asperger's can become a separate article since we have a lot of details now, not to mention it's a huge, recurring theme in the Mailbag which can also be documented. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:02, 5 December 2009 (CET)

I think that it really needs to be noted that many people think of "Aspergers" and "high-functioning autism" as being essentially identical and interchangeable, so for that reason, a lot of people assume that Chris "has" Aspergers (whatever that means) and/or claims to have Aspergers (which is definitely not true). I'm not even sure if there really is a universal consensus regarding a distinction between the two. [[User:Senzuri|Senzuri]] 16:27, 5 December 2009 (CET)

Asperger's syndrome should still be mentioned here, as people might be coming here expecting to see something about Asperger's, so something brief about how Chris views Asperger's syndrome as being different from autism, with a ''Main article: [[Asperger's syndrome]].'' --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:51, 19 December 2009 (CET)

==Does he even have any idea what autism is?==

He seems to talk a lot about his "autistic shell" and the autism "putting the mute button on him" when he was younger. Is there any evidence to suggest that he thinks autism is anything other than just difficulty speaking?

True, there are language delays associated with autism, but his description of his autistic shell sounds more like anxiety over knowing that every single social interaction he's ever been in before whichever one he's in his autistic shell over has failed miserably. His fucked-up and out-of-control behavior that he refuses to do anything about trying to change is more symptomatic of autism than his knowing other people aren't going to respond well to it. I mean, if you were a grown man thinking about blithering on to a decent human being about the piece-of-shit, sexually perverse, rip-off children's comic you center your life around but never draw, wouldn't you be a little anxious about it, too?

Am I just fucked up here, or...? —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 19:18, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
: I'm pretty sure that he has a general idea about what it is and what it does, but since this is Chris we're talking about; I doubt that we should expect him to understand all of it. --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 19:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe. I mean, maybe he can define it or read off a printout of a description of it or whatever, but can you think of any specific reference he's made to any symptom in his life other than having difficulty talking? Not in general like just that he's a virgin or something—not that he doesn't blame that on not talking and people hating autistic people or whatever. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 05:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I think you're on to something. I don't know that there's much we can actually write about it, because most of what there is to say would be guesswork and inference, but I'd wager that most of what Chris knows about autism boils down to: one, he has it, two, it makes him special, and three, it's a catch-all excuse. The autism awareness/sports bra video might be a springboard for adding a new section to the article, maybe - when Chris wanted to talk about autism in any kind of detail he had to print himself out a crib sheet from Wikipedia. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 11:34, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::: Well, he definitely doesn't understand all of it, but I can imagine his parents nagging him about it to an extend where he at least has a general idea of what it does. I agree with Dkaien though, you're definitely on to something. --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 12:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::: I can definitely understand wanting to avoid guesswork and inference. Obviously, no one knows exactly what's going on inside someone else's head. I guess at the very least I'm suggesting a list of things Chris ''hasn't'' blamed on his autism that maybe he should. He claims to hate autism and want a cure for it and this and that, but then he fucking ''loves'' Sonichu as though Sonichu isn't just a major, debilitating symptom or outgrowth of the autism. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 03:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Not entirely Chris related, but... ==

I just read an article in popular science about how there are more autistics now than trained therapists, so to cope with he shortage people are inventing "theraputic robots" that somehow make it easier for autistic children to be sociable. The results are pretty hit-and-miss at this stage but what I took away was that autistics are better at handling predictable machines, but could be gradually exposed to more unpredictable circumstances. Maybe we could apply this in future plans? I think the reason CWCipedia collapsed was either our trolling became too predictable, or we made his "comfort zone" too sporadic. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:0.5% of the entire population is autistic and they recon that that population is rising, however autism is over-diagnosed. On Chris ide think the best way to troll him is to claim that he is not autistic and/or simply retarded. [[User:Leekduck|Leekduck]]
:Hmmmm! That idea ain't too shabby! I'd suggest discussing it in the troll forums. Perhaps that way we can finally obtain the Holy Grail of fail?---[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 10:12, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

== List of autistics ==

Should we make a list of succesful people who have or are thought to have autism, and compare them to chris? I know of a lot of famous people who were diagnosed with autism, and a lot of people who were thought to have it.
*I was thinking about this for a while, but I don't really see how a detailed comparison is better than just saying "Chris does shit he can't blame on autism". What would be the advantage of this? [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 06:09, 20 December 2010 (PST)
*I think something like that would be too distracting to the Chris focus that the article should have, not to mention people who want to see such as list can find one elsewhere. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:40, 20 December 2010 (PST)
* how about we make a link to the wikipedia for it --[[User:MrMaXimo|MrMaXimo]] 12:17 24 December 2010 (PST)

== This goes here? ==

I was reading over the last e-mail exchange with Jackie and Chris's phrase "Hurtful Truth Level" jumped out at me as another example of him making things concrete in his mind, such as Scale of Respect or Heart Level. I made mention of it in what I think is the proper place in this article, but I was wondering if it deserves its own CWC-ism. [[User:Draygoon|Draygoon]] 23:12, 3 January 2011 (PST)

==Mainstreaming==
Like most everything else regarding autism, psychology, and, well, anything, Chris doesn't understand this. The ultimate goal of mainstreaming is to allow the patient to live as independently as possible in a normal environment, rather than being dependent on a caretaker to adapt the environment to suit the needs of the patient. In other words, adapt the autistic to live in the real world, as opposed to adapting the real world to fit the autistic. What mainstreaming means to Chris is to just not do any therapy at all and dump the kid into a world he/she cannot handle after being in retard day camp for a few years. It's amusing that Chris parrots good advice without actually knowing what it means. [[User:Anonymous one|Anonymous one]] 15:56, 2 April 2011 (PDT)

==Parental age==
There are studies showing a significant statistical correspondence between age of the parents (particularly the father) and the incidence of autism in the offspring. (Some studies show no correlation, but most authorities accept the theory.) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect#Autism_spectrum_disorder Wikipedia link] This probably deserves mention on the page, but I'm not sure where to put it. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 14:58, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

==Potential trouble for our autistic hero?==
http://t.co/pbwjRmpY --[[User:ItLurksInTheWalls|ItLurksInTheWalls]] 15:07, 25 January 2012 (PST)
:[[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|Not a forum]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 16:06, 25 January 2012 (PST)

== Connection With Obesity? ==

[http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-autism-obese-mothers-20120409,0,1741964.story This LA Times story] talks about a link between fat ass pregnant women and autistic children. Is this worthy of mention? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 21:42, 9 April 2012 (PDT)
:Barbara appears significantly thinner in older pictures than she does in more recent ones, so I doubt there's any connection.[[User:Bzam|Bzam]] 20:46, 25 November 2012 (PST)

== Genetics and Autism ==

Since autism is something that can be passed on to offspring, who did Chris get his autism from? [[User:Steampunk Mage|Steampunk Mage]] ([[User talk:Steampunk Mage|talk]]) 03:14, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

It's debatable. Autism is caused by a combination of hereditary factors, genetic mutation, and physical environment. If Chris's was genetic, then it's unlikely that it was inherited, as no one else in the family had clear signs of autism.
Based on my rusty knowledge from AP Biology, if Chris's autism was genetic, then he would likely have had a small, yet rare variation in the lettering sequence of his DNA transcription. Humans usually have a couple letters in their DNA transcription varying from the regular mean (~1% of the RNA). However, rarer mutations usually lead to more serious consequences, Chris being a possible example (not proven). It should also be noted that offspring of two parents aren't exactly products of the parents' genes blended together; while they do inherit traits from their parents, but they also have their own individual traits as well. In other words, the creation of offspring is a lot more complex that Mendel would've wanted it to be. In Chris's case, his autism probably an inherited cause, even if it was genetics.

I hope this isn't too much information to take in, and that it answers your question!

-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 2:49 1 November 2017 (PDT)

CopperCab

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Camille:

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'''Michael Tyler Kittrell''' (born 29 October 1992), also known as '''CopperCab''' and '''Claire Kittrell''', is an American [[YouTube]] personality.

In October 2017, [[Chris]] did a re-enactment of Kittrell's famous "Gingers Have Souls" video. A week later, Kittrell noticed the video and re-enacted the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]] video Chris had made ten years prior.

==See Also==
Youtube link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw17ZHAMN98

[[Category:People]]

Chris and health

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{{quote|Eat less [[/cow/|cow]] meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and [[Fanta|Fruit]] are a must; [[A Hike|Walking]] or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|[[Chris]]'s [[Chris and Hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_2</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|Chris in a few years.]]

Chris, as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine can plainly see, is not in good '''health'''. Considering his [[obesity]], [[Power|lack of exercise]], [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|poor nutrition]], [[ShowerClean|refusal to bathe]], and [[Tour of Chris's House|the grave uncleanliness]] of [[Rental House|his]] [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life-threatening medical problems such as cancer, type 2 diabetes, [[Wikipedia:Atherosclerosis|atherosclerosis]], and possibly a premature [[Death|death]].

==Diet and nutrition==
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[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris visited McDonalds 10 times in 13 days. It's not even the only fast-food place on the list.]]

[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily, including ones mixed with [[Navy|a special ingredient]].]]

[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]

Chris is a known fast food lover, eating either [[McDonald's]] or [[Burger King]] at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a Kiwi Farms user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti in a YouTube video--an incredibly basic dish, mind you--he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. This suggests that Chris never drinks water and that he drinks a lot of [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]<ref>[http://www.naturalnews.com/042974_soda_consumption_brain_function_hyperactivity.html|Natural News]</ref>). His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* '''Breakfast:''' Often nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but on the rare occasion he does, he travels to McDonald's or another fast food restaurant with a breakfast menu.
* '''Lunch:''' Something quick at home or fast food.
* '''Dinner:''' Dine out at a fast food place with family, or have a poorly-cooked microwave meal.

[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him.]]

In addition, it is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal incontinence]] (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff]] [[Homos#Evidence that Chris might be gay|in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence;<ref>[[Wikipedia:Fecal_incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia]]</ref> casually, it happens that Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how many years.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general.

In short, Chris is a fatty, yet he denies it, and his food makes him shit himself.

It seems that his diet has finally caught up with him, as it was revealed in the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. Chris claims that he stopped taking the drug in the fall of [[2009]], but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos as an attempt to improve his health. He liked videos such as ''Lose Weight Super Fast!'', ''Produce Odorless Farts Fast!'', ''Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!'' and ''Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment''.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Quinn.27s_missing_out</ref>

===Places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[Country Cookin]]
* [[McDonald's]]
* [[Golden Corral]] (has closed its doors in Charlottesville)
* [[Chick-fil-A]]
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]
* [[Burger King]]

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==Exercise==

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{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and [[Power]]ful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

[[File:Cwcstrongman.JPG|thumb|[[I AM STRONG]]!]]

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[vidya]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight has left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room, while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise.<ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref> Needless to say, Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa the Rapper'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere 30 seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors. Despite this, in [[WelcometoBollywood]] he is capable of dancing in place for over 7 minutes. Whether or not he did this with the magic of jump cuts remains to be seen.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to flexing and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting boxes of Minute Maid lemonade and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could've defeated both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should've it to came to blows, and as such had challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is. He's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWCFighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to [[I Got A Fish|get his wish]] and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog 5 miles (8 kilometers) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take 6 breaks to catch his breath, whereas a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.

Chris's lack of muscle tone may stem from hypotonia (lack of muscle tone), which can occur in people on the [[autism]] spectrum,<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypotonia</ref> although it is clear that his poor lifestyle has only exacerbated this.
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==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21 http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}

[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|"Did you bathe?" "No"]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris [[Mass debating|marinates in his own filth]].]]

As quoted above, Chris claims to bathe on a daily basis. However, his propensity to lie and reports from people who have interacted with him suggest otherwise. According to [[Emily]], he reeked of "rotten watermelons"; [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said "body odor masked with gallons of Axe". In fact, it might be that Chris regards [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower.<ref>In an [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_10 ad] Chris made for ''[[Sonichu 2|Sonichu #2]]'' [[Rosechu]] tells [[Sonichu]] that he smells good, and asks him if he bathed, like it's some kind of event. Sonichu replies that he used Axe instead, suggesting that Chris believes that using Axe is an acceptable substitute for a shower or bath.</ref> Rosechu seems to confirm this belief, as upon being told of the Axe usage she makes an awful attempt at suggestive wordplay, suggesting both that using Axe makes Sonichu clean enough for sex and that cheap deodorant has an aphrodisiac effect on Rosechu.

It would appear that Chris compounds this hygiene problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for several days in a row.<ref>A particularly good example is the series of videos starting with [[12 January 2010]] and ending with [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]. The videos in question were shot between 12-15 [[January 2010]], and in all of them Chris wears the same shirt.</ref> It may be that Chris just gets into "nice" clothing to make his videos and as such doesn't get them dirty, allowing for him to use the same ones repeatedly, although this hygienic habit would be at odds with everything else he does.

The condition of his epidermal system is so poor that it's visibly noticeable, even in his [[Chris and cinematography|low quality videos]]. The texture of grease that is probably permanently adhered to his skin creates a disgusting sheen that reflects a significant amount of light. The same goes for his [[hair]], which is in such poor condition that when he allowed it to grow for the [[Tomgirl Pictures]], many strands were clumped together in greasy, sticky locks, looking akin to the long beard of a homeless man. And even when washed, it looks exactly as greasy and unkempt as it did before, as seen in the [[HairDifference]] videos. This neglect will only make his hair fall out even faster than it already is.

This lack of cleanliness, combined with the state of his [[Chris's Room|room]] where he spends almost all his time, means that Chris and his surroundings must smell absolutely ''disgusting''. Chris evidently simply tolerates the horrible odours, perhaps not noticing them anymore. It may be that he has an abnormally weak or insensitive sense of smell; few other things would allow for such living conditions.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[The GAMe PLACe]] (doubtlessly offending his victorious opponents) and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he kept a bottle on hand at all times. Additionally, Mimms and Lucas said in their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] that Chris didn't have any noticeable BO during his time at the GAMe PLACe, suggesting that his odor problems have become more severe in recent years. [[BlueSpike]] also mentions Chris's usage of hand sanitizer throughout [[Julie Reveals Herself]].

One day in September 2014, Chris decided to give himself [[Un-clit|a piercing on his perineum]]. Piercings require constant disinfection while they heal, anywhere on the body, even for very clean people, and so many trolls were concerned that considering Chris's general filthiness and the fact that the location of the piercing would receive very little air, there was a serious risk of infection. In December, he shared another picture of this piercing which showed that, while it wasn't infected, the piercing had begun to reject (''tearing the skin'' in the process). Making lemonade out of lemons, Chris (now in the throes of his transwoman fantasy) noted with pride the tear's semblance to a [[China|vagina]] and actually got it re-pierced, without giving the original wound any longer than about a week to heal. Fortunately, Chris gave up on it after it became clear that the piercing was going to be more hassle than it was worth, and removed it for good before any serious harm was done.
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==Living conditions==

''Main article: [[14 Branchland Court]], [[Rental House]]''

[[File:Ebay violin photo - 22 Jun 2014 - 1.jpg|thumb|Only half a year in and already an inhuman cesspool; quite the accomplishment.]]

Simply put, Chris has spent many years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. The photographs and videos of 14 Branchland Court that he has so unwisely shared with the world showcased to us his filthy bathtub, as well as what appeared to be overflowing bins that looked more like mounds of trash, a kitchen sink overflowing with unwashed plates and cutlery, and even an instance of Chris [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|slipping on cat shit]]. Trolls also managed to [[Rocky Shoemaker call|extract]] from [[Rocky Shoemaker]] that the house was suffering some sort of infestation, which led to [[Bob]] being quarantined after being brought to hospital, and Chris being confined to his room to avoid being bitten. When Chris's last video of the house emerged in the months before the [[Destruction of Chris's House|fire]], it was revealed that the problem had only gotten worse since Bob's passing, with whole rooms literally rendered inaccessible, and some filled almost to the ceiling with items [[Barb]] had hoarded, and with various other rooms reduced to crevices carved into Barb's mountains of junk.

Even after the fire, Chris and Barb have seemingly not amended their habits, as far as housekeeping goes. Photographs of the rental house revealed a steadily growing number of [[Lego]] boxes strewn around, as well as something much more alarming; when Chris was taking photographs of his merchandise for [[eBay]], he inadvertently photographed rat faeces on the carpet as well. When [[Trolls|concerned customers]] pointed this out Chris [[Chris and reality|flatly denied it]], even though [[Honor roll|he had given them photographic proof to the contrary]]. Moreover, after [[Catherine]] visited in [[August 2014]], she recalled seeing junk "piled up to the ceiling" and the dogs not being housebroken and allowed to urinate and defecate in piles of newspaper on the floor. While Chris and Barb returned to the renovated 14 Branchland Court in [[January 2015]], one can only imagine the reaction of the landlord to the state in which they left the house, which, as of [[April 2015]], was still vacant, probably due to the mess they made.

==Vision==
As evidenced by his oversized, [[Pedo-Glasses|aviator-like glasses]], Chris has a vision problem. Judging by pictures of Chris in his youth, it appears that he began wearing glasses around the time he entered high school. The extent of his eyesight problems is anybody's guess. His glasses are often fogged and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|dirty]], thus simultaneously improving and worsening his sight along different feature dimensions. Chris often takes them off when things are [[Stress|"getting serious"]], but keeps them on to [[Chris and English|read]]. This is evident in the video in which he [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_February_10th,_2009|reads a letter from Nintendo]], and in the [[Christian_Weston_Chandler's_FUTURE_MESSAGE|"FUTURE MESSAGE"]] video.

One of Chris' relatives, Dr. David Alan Chandler, happens to be an eye doctor whom Chris has seen in the past. The last time Chris was known to have seen him for an appointment was 6 January 2004.

Chris's driver's license has a restrictive condition checked, which commonly means that the driver must wear glasses in order to legally drive. Whether his vision contributed to the [[Son-Chu#Car_trouble|numerous vehicular incidents]] he has been involved in has yet to be seen. However, it is a good bet that Chris should be wearing glasses while driving, for the sake of those sharing the road with him.

In his [[CLog 10042017 - Q&A NO MORE!!!]] video, Chris's left eye is drooping noticeably, which may imply either an early sign of a stroke or substance abuse. Both of these are plausible due to his [[obesity]] and poor nutrition for the former, and his abuse of [[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.|a black-market drug for the latter]].

==Dental health==
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[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|250px|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Talk about [[honest content]]!]]

Chris's fondness for bearing his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, [[Chris and money|expensive]] dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell (partly due to Chris's [[Chris and cinematography|awful camerawork]]), in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is likely the result of large consumption of [[Fanta|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and his refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]]. He seems to be unwilling to brush his teeth, or at least chew some [[Brand loyalty|Orbit gum]].
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==Cardiovascular health==
[[File:Soysauce on fries.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris thinks this will help him grow his [[manboobs|breasts]]. To be fair, [[obesity|he's not wrong]].]]

In August 2013, Chris indicated that the [[stress]] he's endured has begun to affect his health, citing a symptom of high blood pressure. In 2016, he implied that he has hypertension;<ref>[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis#Likes]]</ref> this was later confirmed in August 2017, when he stated that he takes prescription medicine for it.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets#Chris' prescribed medication]]</ref>

In September 2017, Chris discussed his new method for growing larger breasts, which involves flavoring his food with soy sauce. As an example, he posted a picture of [[McDonald's]] fries doused in soy sauce.<ref>[[September 2017 tweets#Chris is fat and stupid]]</ref> It is evident that he has conflated soy-based foods with soy sauce, thinking the latter would be a good way to boost estrogen levels. In reality, the phytoestrogens found in soy products do not bind to the body's estradiol receptors, and thus will have no effect on his manboobs. Conversely, the sodium in soy sauce is actually making him fatter due to weight gain and fluid retention, as well as inflicting further damage to his heart, which is already straining under the effects of hypertension.

==Excretory health==
Chris has had a long history of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal incontinence]]. One factor likely contributing to this is his diet. His continued [[Julie Reveals Herself|abuse]] of his anus and rectum has not helped.

In July 2017, Chris passed his first [[July 2017 tweets#Kidney_stone|kidney stone]]. Obesity and a high intake of sodium are known risk factors,<ref>https://www.urologyhealth.org/urologic-conditions/kidney-stones/causes</ref> and seeing as how both of these apply to Chris, he can expect to see more [[Wikipedia:Calculus (medicine)|calculi]] in the future unless he changes his ways.

As mentioned in the previous section, Chris has revealed that he is now putting soy sauce on everything that is not sweet. In addition to worsening his renal health, when combined with the laxative effects of his intake of twelve prunes a day (part of the same breast growth formula), this is only likely to result in a higher frequency of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS]].

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==Mental health==
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of the word.]]
[[Chris and psychology|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto), to schizophrenia (signs include his disorganized speech and writing, loss of contact with [[Chris and reality|reality]], and paranoid ideas about being the victim of persecution or "conspiracies" - such as his delusional belief that [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Michael Snyder]] were somehow responsible for him getting banned from [[Walmart]]).

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch—he is incapable of advancing mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics. For over 6 years, he has been led on by various trolls pretending to be [[Sweetheart|young white women]] [[Chris and reality|who are interested in a relationship with him]], and yet he still falls for it time after time. It is Chris's refusal to listen or learn that ensures that he will continue to live in [[Naive|ignorance]], isolation and misery, and until he decides to change, it always will, irrespective of whether his trolls stay interested in him.

It was once thought possible that Chris didn't feel like his life had truly begun, that he was still in the "pre-adult" years — because he remained a [[Virgin with rage|virgin]] into his early 30's, and judging by his [[Autism|oversimplified, black-and-white view of the world]] [[The Adventures of the American Rabbit|tainted]] [[Video games|by]] [[Chris and reality|fiction]] [[Chris and television|and]] [[Chris and brand loyalty|media messages]], [[Chris and sex#Chris and gender|treatment of women]] and [[Chris and sex|stunted understanding of sexual relationships]], because he saw sex not as a biological or recreational function, or an expression of love, but rather as a rite of passage, of sorts, and he therefore believed that he wasn't able to truly be an adult until he had sex. Chris has lost his virginity, however, and as of yet, has made few to no changes that will tangibly improve his life, in fact he has been plunging himself into debt to buy toys, of all things, as well as a new car. Needless to say, no one expects Chris and Barb to be able to afford to keep the car for long.

Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internet), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism or the trolls themselves for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[sex toys|dildo]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara#Pampering_of_Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. This might simply be [[Barbara]] telling her son what all mothers tell their kids.
* He has an [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|inability to remember faces]]. For example, during the [[Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_24 ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Some people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However...]]

In the July 2012 [[This_is_how_the_Trial_went|arraignment]] for his and Barbara's actions at the GAMe PLACe [[28_October_2011|the previous fall]], Chris agreed to a plea bargain, avoiding felony charges and jail time in exchange for, among other things, "mandatory psychological treatment and evaluation," which meant that Chris was forced to undergo legitimate psychiatric treatment (as opposed to simply seeing [[Rocky_Shoemaker|an un-certified pastoral "counselor"]]), or risk being imprisoned. Given that most, if not all of the problems described above persist in some form or another to this day, it seems that Chris reacted to psychiatric treatment in much the same way he reacted to the education system, as it seems that, whatever his psychiatrist said, he took none of it in, probably taking out his [[Ego|anger at being forced to obey the law]] on the psychiatrist by simply refusing to co-operate.

Chris began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos on YouTube in 2016. On 29 June, he uploaded [[Announcement 06292016|Announcement 06292016-2]], in which he claimed that the music cured his autism:

{{quotebox|Hey [[Fans|fans,]] I forgot one thing to mention. I have- I've actually been on a- subliminal project, as a lot of you- or some of you- might have been... aware of, through my history or whatever... That I try to keep private amongst my YouTube settings.

But I have been enjoying for the past 3 months the "Get Rid of Autism" subliminal. [[Naive|The one that actually works]] in three months so less than [''stutters''] three times per day. 36 times.

I have been doin' that I've actually found myself more mentally capable. I don't- I do not blank out as much, I feel a little bit [[Slow-in-the-minds|faster]] in mental processing... Aaand I feel a whole lot better so with that [''puts out hands''] I'm essentially [[Autism#Autism cured?|cured of autism]]. Oh and also I actually have been able to socialize better out in public, so that's another good deal right there.

I'm gonna put the link underneath this video... And those of y'all with autism... Try for yourself. Three- play it three times, per day... for three months. [''Points to head''] It worked for me. [''Thumbs up'']}}

However, in a November Facebook post, he was back to referring to himself as a "high-functioning autistic person."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Hate and fear of Trump and Pence]]</ref>

Chris mentioned in August 2017 that he takes Valium, a drug used to treat [[stress|anxiety and nervousness]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets#On_wearing_the_unicorn_cosplay_to_church</ref>

{{quote|I took a rest and some valium after I got back home. I feel some recovered, but feel some mild headache now.|Chris, on taking the drug after feeling stress from being told not to wear his [[unicorn cosplay]] at church.}}

==Sexual health==
Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyronie%27s_disease Peyronie's disease] or the result of engaging in dangerous prone masturbation), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive and Chris has other, [[Video games|more]] [[Toys|important]] [[Sex toys|things]] on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref> He didn't have any; [[Virgin|you can probably guess why]].

==Gender transitioning==
{{see also|Tomgirl}}
===Hormone treatment===
[[File:Like budderin bread - credit to Buck Mullet.gif|thumb|Chris believes this is an appropriate form of hormone therapy.]]
Normally, transgender people plan out their gender transitions with doctors to ensure safety throughout the process, especially if they are taking hormones (which can cause health issues unless strictly monitored according to the patient's health profile).

Unfortunately for Chris, he has done the opposite. In 2015, he acquired '''Oestrogel''', a hormone replacement therapy cream meant for [[Barbara Chandler|post-menopausal women]]. It is meant to be prescription-only, but Chris got around the requirement to see a doctor by ordering it through Offshore Pharmacy.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Oestrogel has health risks, such as fluid retention, weight changes, rise in blood pressure (disastrous for an obese person like Chris) and blood clots,<ref name=healthrisks>[http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-89430/estrogel-transdermal/details/list-sideeffects Common and Rare Side Effects for Estrogel transdermal]. WebMD</ref> and that is when it is applied properly via a small dosage on the arm once per day. He even managed to fail at following the directions on the package, as shown in [[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.]], in which he slathers the cream onto his stomach "like buttering bread".

[[Kim Wilson]] revealed that he was taking the hormones in May 2015,<ref>[[May 2015 Facebook posts]]</ref> and Chris mentioned the drug again as late as August 2016.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Throughout 2015-2016, he repeatedly complained, via Facebook posts, of feeling dizzy and ill, but has failed to connect the dots and see that taking over-dosages of a black-market drug without a physician's approval could be a reason for it.

In addition to Oestrogel, Chris has been taking supplements such as vitamins. He purchased a jar of Solaray Female Hormone Blend Vitamins in August 2016,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-10-chris-bought-female-hormone-vitamins.23257/</ref> which is meant to ease menopausal symptoms. [[Arthur Spatchcock]] also learned that, around [[May 2016]], Chris was fond of eating Fenugreek seeds because he believed it would increase his estrogen levels (being unaware that it would have no effect on him, since he is not on estrogen).<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-562#post-1475700</ref>

===Un-clit 2.0===
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In [[July 2016]], Chris posted about [[Un-clit 2.0|a wound on his taint]], announcing that he had gotten it as a result of [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] and would be growing new labia as a result.

A troll with insider info discovered that Chris had actually '''sliced himself open with a knife in order to free the vagina he thought was growing within him'''.

{{quoteboxgreen|So, Chris was feeling up his junk, and he felt something "growing in". He believed his labia were growing in. He knew, logically, that he probably should let it... ahem... "erupt" on its own, because cutting himself open is crazy and he would probably get in trouble. But one night he was drunk and was sad that someone pointed out he didn't have an actual vagina, so he thought he'd help it along.

In the morning he was very embarrassed and sheepish about it. Chris is fucking lucky he posted about it online, and got pestered into getting help by weens, because if he hadn't, he'd probably end up in the hospital, fighting off a potentially lethal infection.

So technically speaking, in Chris logic, it was indeed a wound, but his vagina was going to come out and the wound would heal and everything would be alright.

It's kind of like he was Brundlewoman and he was pulling off his old ear and face and shit, and the beautiful Pam Anderson Christine would be underneath.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-12-21-chris-reminiscences-about-moving-back-into-14bc-after-the-fire.26774/page-7#post-1962817</ref>}}

===Rejected by a blood bank===
In January 2017, Chris complained on Facebook that he had been turned away from a blood drive for being transgender.<ref>[[January 2017 Facebook Posts]]</ref> He stated that the given reason was "the FDA saw to not accept blood from Transgender people, due to the varying levels of testosterone/estrogen balances in our blood." Chris does not realize how medically sensitive patients will be when receiving blood transfusions, and that it would not be in their interests to be taking blood with hormonal imbalances, especially from Chris, whose blood has been affected by the dangerous intake of the unsupervised Oestrogel drug.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

His voice is also a very [[speech Impediment|severe deformity]], ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[Asperger's syndrome]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone. In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal and even deeper than later years, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction; such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. With enough isolation, this will most likely become permanent.

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture.<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref> Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Hair]]
*[[Obesity]]
*[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]

== Sources ==
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Chris and health

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{{quote|Eat less [[/cow/|cow]] meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and [[Fanta|Fruit]] are a must; [[A Hike|Walking]] or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|[[Chris]]'s [[Chris and Hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_2</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|Chris in a few years.]]

Chris, as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine can plainly see, is not in good '''health'''. Considering his [[obesity]], [[Power|lack of exercise]], [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|poor nutrition]], [[ShowerClean|refusal to bathe]], and [[Tour of Chris's House|the grave uncleanliness]] of [[Rental House|his]] [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life-threatening medical problems such as cancer, type 2 diabetes, [[Wikipedia:Atherosclerosis|atherosclerosis]], and possibly a premature [[Death|death]].

==Diet and nutrition==
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[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris visited McDonalds 10 times in 13 days. It's not even the only fast-food place on the list.]]

[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily, including ones mixed with [[Navy|a special ingredient]].]]

[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]

Chris is a known fast food lover, eating either [[McDonald's]] or [[Burger King]] at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a Kiwi Farms user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti in a YouTube video--an incredibly basic dish, mind you--he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. This suggests that Chris never drinks water and that he drinks a lot of [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]<ref>[http://www.naturalnews.com/042974_soda_consumption_brain_function_hyperactivity.html|Natural News]</ref>). His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* '''Breakfast:''' Often nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but on the rare occasion he does, he travels to McDonald's or another fast food restaurant with a breakfast menu.
* '''Lunch:''' Something quick at home or fast food.
* '''Dinner:''' Dine out at a fast food place with family, or have a poorly-cooked microwave meal.

[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him.]]

In addition, it is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal incontinence]] (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff]] [[Homos#Evidence that Chris might be gay|in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence;<ref>[[Wikipedia:Fecal_incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia]]</ref> casually, it happens that Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how many years.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general.

In short, Chris is a fatty, yet he denies it, and his food makes him shit himself.

It seems that his diet has finally caught up with him, as it was revealed in the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. Chris claims that he stopped taking the drug in the fall of [[2009]], but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos as an attempt to improve his health. He liked videos such as ''Lose Weight Super Fast!'', ''Produce Odorless Farts Fast!'', ''Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!'' and ''Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment''.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Quinn.27s_missing_out</ref>

===Places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[Country Cookin]]
* [[McDonald's]]
* [[Golden Corral]] (has closed its doors in Charlottesville)
* [[Chick-fil-A]]
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]
* [[Burger King]]

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==Exercise==

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{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and [[Power]]ful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

[[File:Cwcstrongman.JPG|thumb|[[I AM STRONG]]!]]

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[vidya]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight has left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room, while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise.<ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref> Needless to say, Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa the Rapper'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere 30 seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors. Despite this, in [[WelcometoBollywood]] he is capable of dancing in place for over 7 minutes. Whether or not he did this with the magic of jump cuts remains to be seen.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to flexing and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting boxes of Minute Maid lemonade and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could've defeated both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should've it to came to blows, and as such had challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is. He's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWCFighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to [[I Got A Fish|get his wish]] and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog 5 miles (8 kilometers) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take 6 breaks to catch his breath, whereas a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.

Chris's lack of muscle tone may stem from hypotonia (lack of muscle tone), which can occur in people on the [[autism]] spectrum,<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypotonia</ref> although it is clear that his poor lifestyle has only exacerbated this.
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==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21 http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}

[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|"Did you bathe?" "No"]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris [[Mass debating|marinates in his own filth]].]]

As quoted above, Chris claims to bathe on a daily basis. However, his propensity to lie and reports from people who have interacted with him suggest otherwise. According to [[Emily]], he reeked of "rotten watermelons"; [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said "body odor masked with gallons of Axe". In fact, it might be that Chris regards [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower.<ref>In an [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_10 ad] Chris made for ''[[Sonichu 2|Sonichu #2]]'' [[Rosechu]] tells [[Sonichu]] that he smells good, and asks him if he bathed, like it's some kind of event. Sonichu replies that he used Axe instead, suggesting that Chris believes that using Axe is an acceptable substitute for a shower or bath.</ref> Rosechu seems to confirm this belief, as upon being told of the Axe usage she makes an awful attempt at suggestive wordplay, suggesting both that using Axe makes Sonichu clean enough for sex and that cheap deodorant has an aphrodisiac effect on Rosechu.

It would appear that Chris compounds this hygiene problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for several days in a row.<ref>A particularly good example is the series of videos starting with [[12 January 2010]] and ending with [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]. The videos in question were shot between 12-15 [[January 2010]], and in all of them Chris wears the same shirt.</ref> It may be that Chris just gets into "nice" clothing to make his videos and as such doesn't get them dirty, allowing for him to use the same ones repeatedly, although this hygienic habit would be at odds with everything else he does.

The condition of his epidermal system is so poor that it's visibly noticeable, even in his [[Chris and cinematography|low quality videos]]. The texture of grease that is probably permanently adhered to his skin creates a disgusting sheen that reflects a significant amount of light. The same goes for his [[hair]], which is in such poor condition that when he allowed it to grow for the [[Tomgirl Pictures]], many strands were clumped together in greasy, sticky locks, looking akin to the long beard of a homeless man. And even when washed, it looks exactly as greasy and unkempt as it did before, as seen in the [[HairDifference]] videos. This neglect will only make his hair fall out even faster than it already is.

This lack of cleanliness, combined with the state of his [[Chris's Room|room]] where he spends almost all his time, means that Chris and his surroundings must smell absolutely ''disgusting''. Chris evidently simply tolerates the horrible odours, perhaps not noticing them anymore. It may be that he has an abnormally weak or insensitive sense of smell; few other things would allow for such living conditions.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[The GAMe PLACe]] (doubtlessly offending his victorious opponents) and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he kept a bottle on hand at all times. Additionally, Mimms and Lucas said in their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] that Chris didn't have any noticeable BO during his time at the GAMe PLACe, suggesting that his odor problems have become more severe in recent years. [[BlueSpike]] also mentions Chris's usage of hand sanitizer throughout [[Julie Reveals Herself]].

One day in September 2014, Chris decided to give himself [[Un-clit|a piercing on his perineum]]. Piercings require constant disinfection while they heal, anywhere on the body, even for very clean people, and so many trolls were concerned that considering Chris's general filthiness and the fact that the location of the piercing would receive very little air, there was a serious risk of infection. In December, he shared another picture of this piercing which showed that, while it wasn't infected, the piercing had begun to reject (''tearing the skin'' in the process). Making lemonade out of lemons, Chris (now in the throes of his transwoman fantasy) noted with pride the tear's semblance to a [[China|vagina]] and actually got it re-pierced, without giving the original wound any longer than about a week to heal. Fortunately, Chris gave up on it after it became clear that the piercing was going to be more hassle than it was worth, and removed it for good before any serious harm was done.
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==Living conditions==

''Main article: [[14 Branchland Court]], [[Rental House]]''

[[File:Ebay violin photo - 22 Jun 2014 - 1.jpg|thumb|Only half a year in and already an inhuman cesspool; quite the accomplishment.]]

Simply put, Chris has spent many years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. The photographs and videos of 14 Branchland Court that he has so unwisely shared with the world showcased to us his filthy bathtub, as well as what appeared to be overflowing bins that looked more like mounds of trash, a kitchen sink overflowing with unwashed plates and cutlery, and even an instance of Chris [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|slipping on cat shit]]. Trolls also managed to [[Rocky Shoemaker call|extract]] from [[Rocky Shoemaker]] that the house was suffering some sort of infestation, which led to [[Bob]] being quarantined after being brought to hospital, and Chris being confined to his room to avoid being bitten. When Chris's last video of the house emerged in the months before the [[Destruction of Chris's House|fire]], it was revealed that the problem had only gotten worse since Bob's passing, with whole rooms literally rendered inaccessible, and some filled almost to the ceiling with items [[Barb]] had hoarded, and with various other rooms reduced to crevices carved into Barb's mountains of junk.

Even after the fire, Chris and Barb have seemingly not amended their habits, as far as housekeeping goes. Photographs of the rental house revealed a steadily growing number of [[Lego]] boxes strewn around, as well as something much more alarming; when Chris was taking photographs of his merchandise for [[eBay]], he inadvertently photographed rat faeces on the carpet as well. When [[Trolls|concerned customers]] pointed this out Chris [[Chris and reality|flatly denied it]], even though [[Honor roll|he had given them photographic proof to the contrary]]. Moreover, after [[Catherine]] visited in [[August 2014]], she recalled seeing junk "piled up to the ceiling" and the dogs not being housebroken and allowed to urinate and defecate in piles of newspaper on the floor. While Chris and Barb returned to the renovated 14 Branchland Court in [[January 2015]], one can only imagine the reaction of the landlord to the state in which they left the house, which, as of [[April 2015]], was still vacant, probably due to the mess they made.

==Vision==
As evidenced by his oversized, [[Pedo-Glasses|aviator-like glasses]], Chris has a vision problem. Judging by pictures of Chris in his youth, it appears that he began wearing glasses around the time he entered high school. The extent of his eyesight problems is anybody's guess. His glasses are often fogged and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|dirty]], thus simultaneously improving and worsening his sight along different feature dimensions. Chris often takes them off when things are [[Stress|"getting serious"]], but keeps them on to [[Chris and English|read]]. This is evident in the video in which he [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_February_10th,_2009|reads a letter from Nintendo]], and in the [[Christian_Weston_Chandler's_FUTURE_MESSAGE|"FUTURE MESSAGE"]] video.

One of Chris' relatives, Dr. David Alan Chandler, happens to be an eye doctor whom Chris has seen in the past. The last time Chris was known to have seen him for an appointment was 6 January 2004.

Chris's driver's license has a restrictive condition checked, which commonly means that the driver must wear glasses in order to legally drive. Whether his vision contributed to the [[Son-Chu#Car_trouble|numerous vehicular incidents]] he has been involved in has yet to be seen. However, it is a good bet that Chris should be wearing glasses while driving, for the sake of those sharing the road with him.

In his [[CLog 10042017 - Q&A NO MORE!!!]] video, Chris's left eye is drooping noticeably, which may imply either an early sign of a stroke or substance abuse. Both of these are plausible due to his [[obesity]] and poor nutrition for the former, and his abuse of a [[black-market drug for the latter|Oestrogel]].

==Dental health==
{{Main|Fangs}}
[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|250px|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Talk about [[honest content]]!]]

Chris's fondness for bearing his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, [[Chris and money|expensive]] dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell (partly due to Chris's [[Chris and cinematography|awful camerawork]]), in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is likely the result of large consumption of [[Fanta|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and his refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]]. He seems to be unwilling to brush his teeth, or at least chew some [[Brand loyalty|Orbit gum]].
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==Cardiovascular health==
[[File:Soysauce on fries.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris thinks this will help him grow his [[manboobs|breasts]]. To be fair, [[obesity|he's not wrong]].]]

In August 2013, Chris indicated that the [[stress]] he's endured has begun to affect his health, citing a symptom of high blood pressure. In 2016, he implied that he has hypertension;<ref>[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis#Likes]]</ref> this was later confirmed in August 2017, when he stated that he takes prescription medicine for it.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets#Chris' prescribed medication]]</ref>

In September 2017, Chris discussed his new method for growing larger breasts, which involves flavoring his food with soy sauce. As an example, he posted a picture of [[McDonald's]] fries doused in soy sauce.<ref>[[September 2017 tweets#Chris is fat and stupid]]</ref> It is evident that he has conflated soy-based foods with soy sauce, thinking the latter would be a good way to boost estrogen levels. In reality, the phytoestrogens found in soy products do not bind to the body's estradiol receptors, and thus will have no effect on his manboobs. Conversely, the sodium in soy sauce is actually making him fatter due to weight gain and fluid retention, as well as inflicting further damage to his heart, which is already straining under the effects of hypertension.

==Excretory health==
Chris has had a long history of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal incontinence]]. One factor likely contributing to this is his diet. His continued [[Julie Reveals Herself|abuse]] of his anus and rectum has not helped.

In July 2017, Chris passed his first [[July 2017 tweets#Kidney_stone|kidney stone]]. Obesity and a high intake of sodium are known risk factors,<ref>https://www.urologyhealth.org/urologic-conditions/kidney-stones/causes</ref> and seeing as how both of these apply to Chris, he can expect to see more [[Wikipedia:Calculus (medicine)|calculi]] in the future unless he changes his ways.

As mentioned in the previous section, Chris has revealed that he is now putting soy sauce on everything that is not sweet. In addition to worsening his renal health, when combined with the laxative effects of his intake of twelve prunes a day (part of the same breast growth formula), this is only likely to result in a higher frequency of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS]].

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==Mental health==
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of the word.]]
[[Chris and psychology|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto), to schizophrenia (signs include his disorganized speech and writing, loss of contact with [[Chris and reality|reality]], and paranoid ideas about being the victim of persecution or "conspiracies" - such as his delusional belief that [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Michael Snyder]] were somehow responsible for him getting banned from [[Walmart]]).

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch—he is incapable of advancing mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics. For over 6 years, he has been led on by various trolls pretending to be [[Sweetheart|young white women]] [[Chris and reality|who are interested in a relationship with him]], and yet he still falls for it time after time. It is Chris's refusal to listen or learn that ensures that he will continue to live in [[Naive|ignorance]], isolation and misery, and until he decides to change, it always will, irrespective of whether his trolls stay interested in him.

It was once thought possible that Chris didn't feel like his life had truly begun, that he was still in the "pre-adult" years — because he remained a [[Virgin with rage|virgin]] into his early 30's, and judging by his [[Autism|oversimplified, black-and-white view of the world]] [[The Adventures of the American Rabbit|tainted]] [[Video games|by]] [[Chris and reality|fiction]] [[Chris and television|and]] [[Chris and brand loyalty|media messages]], [[Chris and sex#Chris and gender|treatment of women]] and [[Chris and sex|stunted understanding of sexual relationships]], because he saw sex not as a biological or recreational function, or an expression of love, but rather as a rite of passage, of sorts, and he therefore believed that he wasn't able to truly be an adult until he had sex. Chris has lost his virginity, however, and as of yet, has made few to no changes that will tangibly improve his life, in fact he has been plunging himself into debt to buy toys, of all things, as well as a new car. Needless to say, no one expects Chris and Barb to be able to afford to keep the car for long.

Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internet), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism or the trolls themselves for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[sex toys|dildo]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara#Pampering_of_Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. This might simply be [[Barbara]] telling her son what all mothers tell their kids.
* He has an [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|inability to remember faces]]. For example, during the [[Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_24 ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Some people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However...]]

In the July 2012 [[This_is_how_the_Trial_went|arraignment]] for his and Barbara's actions at the GAMe PLACe [[28_October_2011|the previous fall]], Chris agreed to a plea bargain, avoiding felony charges and jail time in exchange for, among other things, "mandatory psychological treatment and evaluation," which meant that Chris was forced to undergo legitimate psychiatric treatment (as opposed to simply seeing [[Rocky_Shoemaker|an un-certified pastoral "counselor"]]), or risk being imprisoned. Given that most, if not all of the problems described above persist in some form or another to this day, it seems that Chris reacted to psychiatric treatment in much the same way he reacted to the education system, as it seems that, whatever his psychiatrist said, he took none of it in, probably taking out his [[Ego|anger at being forced to obey the law]] on the psychiatrist by simply refusing to co-operate.

Chris began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos on YouTube in 2016. On 29 June, he uploaded [[Announcement 06292016|Announcement 06292016-2]], in which he claimed that the music cured his autism:

{{quotebox|Hey [[Fans|fans,]] I forgot one thing to mention. I have- I've actually been on a- subliminal project, as a lot of you- or some of you- might have been... aware of, through my history or whatever... That I try to keep private amongst my YouTube settings.

But I have been enjoying for the past 3 months the "Get Rid of Autism" subliminal. [[Naive|The one that actually works]] in three months so less than [''stutters''] three times per day. 36 times.

I have been doin' that I've actually found myself more mentally capable. I don't- I do not blank out as much, I feel a little bit [[Slow-in-the-minds|faster]] in mental processing... Aaand I feel a whole lot better so with that [''puts out hands''] I'm essentially [[Autism#Autism cured?|cured of autism]]. Oh and also I actually have been able to socialize better out in public, so that's another good deal right there.

I'm gonna put the link underneath this video... And those of y'all with autism... Try for yourself. Three- play it three times, per day... for three months. [''Points to head''] It worked for me. [''Thumbs up'']}}

However, in a November Facebook post, he was back to referring to himself as a "high-functioning autistic person."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Hate and fear of Trump and Pence]]</ref>

Chris mentioned in August 2017 that he takes Valium, a drug used to treat [[stress|anxiety and nervousness]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets#On_wearing_the_unicorn_cosplay_to_church</ref>

{{quote|I took a rest and some valium after I got back home. I feel some recovered, but feel some mild headache now.|Chris, on taking the drug after feeling stress from being told not to wear his [[unicorn cosplay]] at church.}}

==Sexual health==
Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyronie%27s_disease Peyronie's disease] or the result of engaging in dangerous prone masturbation), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive and Chris has other, [[Video games|more]] [[Toys|important]] [[Sex toys|things]] on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref> He didn't have any; [[Virgin|you can probably guess why]].

==Gender transitioning==
{{see also|Tomgirl}}
===Hormone treatment===
[[File:Like budderin bread - credit to Buck Mullet.gif|thumb|Chris believes this is an appropriate form of hormone therapy.]]
Normally, transgender people plan out their gender transitions with doctors to ensure safety throughout the process, especially if they are taking hormones (which can cause health issues unless strictly monitored according to the patient's health profile).

Unfortunately for Chris, he has done the opposite. In 2015, he acquired '''Oestrogel''', a hormone replacement therapy cream meant for [[Barbara Chandler|post-menopausal women]]. It is meant to be prescription-only, but Chris got around the requirement to see a doctor by ordering it through Offshore Pharmacy.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Oestrogel has health risks, such as fluid retention, weight changes, rise in blood pressure (disastrous for an obese person like Chris) and blood clots,<ref name=healthrisks>[http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-89430/estrogel-transdermal/details/list-sideeffects Common and Rare Side Effects for Estrogel transdermal]. WebMD</ref> and that is when it is applied properly via a small dosage on the arm once per day. He even managed to fail at following the directions on the package, as shown in [[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.]], in which he slathers the cream onto his stomach "like buttering bread".

[[Kim Wilson]] revealed that he was taking the hormones in May 2015,<ref>[[May 2015 Facebook posts]]</ref> and Chris mentioned the drug again as late as August 2016.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Throughout 2015-2016, he repeatedly complained, via Facebook posts, of feeling dizzy and ill, but has failed to connect the dots and see that taking over-dosages of a black-market drug without a physician's approval could be a reason for it.

In addition to Oestrogel, Chris has been taking supplements such as vitamins. He purchased a jar of Solaray Female Hormone Blend Vitamins in August 2016,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-10-chris-bought-female-hormone-vitamins.23257/</ref> which is meant to ease menopausal symptoms. [[Arthur Spatchcock]] also learned that, around [[May 2016]], Chris was fond of eating Fenugreek seeds because he believed it would increase his estrogen levels (being unaware that it would have no effect on him, since he is not on estrogen).<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-562#post-1475700</ref>

===Un-clit 2.0===
{{main|Un-clit 2.0}}

In [[July 2016]], Chris posted about [[Un-clit 2.0|a wound on his taint]], announcing that he had gotten it as a result of [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] and would be growing new labia as a result.

A troll with insider info discovered that Chris had actually '''sliced himself open with a knife in order to free the vagina he thought was growing within him'''.

{{quoteboxgreen|So, Chris was feeling up his junk, and he felt something "growing in". He believed his labia were growing in. He knew, logically, that he probably should let it... ahem... "erupt" on its own, because cutting himself open is crazy and he would probably get in trouble. But one night he was drunk and was sad that someone pointed out he didn't have an actual vagina, so he thought he'd help it along.

In the morning he was very embarrassed and sheepish about it. Chris is fucking lucky he posted about it online, and got pestered into getting help by weens, because if he hadn't, he'd probably end up in the hospital, fighting off a potentially lethal infection.

So technically speaking, in Chris logic, it was indeed a wound, but his vagina was going to come out and the wound would heal and everything would be alright.

It's kind of like he was Brundlewoman and he was pulling off his old ear and face and shit, and the beautiful Pam Anderson Christine would be underneath.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-12-21-chris-reminiscences-about-moving-back-into-14bc-after-the-fire.26774/page-7#post-1962817</ref>}}

===Rejected by a blood bank===
In January 2017, Chris complained on Facebook that he had been turned away from a blood drive for being transgender.<ref>[[January 2017 Facebook Posts]]</ref> He stated that the given reason was "the FDA saw to not accept blood from Transgender people, due to the varying levels of testosterone/estrogen balances in our blood." Chris does not realize how medically sensitive patients will be when receiving blood transfusions, and that it would not be in their interests to be taking blood with hormonal imbalances, especially from Chris, whose blood has been affected by the dangerous intake of the unsupervised Oestrogel drug.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

His voice is also a very [[speech Impediment|severe deformity]], ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[Asperger's syndrome]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone. In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal and even deeper than later years, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction; such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. With enough isolation, this will most likely become permanent.

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture.<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref> Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Hair]]
*[[Obesity]]
*[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]

== Sources ==
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BronyCon

2017-10-17T07:16:20Z

Camille:

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[[File:cwc bronycon 2017 3.jpg|thumb]]

'''BronyCon''' is a yearly convention held by adult fans of [[My Little Pony]]. The 2017 convention ran from 11 August to 13 August. Chris drove all the way to Baltimore, Maryland, to visit the convention, staying for the full three days. While he was there, Chris took many pictures with some of the show's staff, as well as other fans. He also made several new drawings, some of which were signed by voice actresses from the show.

Several fellow bronies from [[4chan]]'s /mlp/ board,<ref name=mlp>http://archive.is/lHRYe</ref> Twitter, and [[Kiwi Farms]] provided photos and reports on their sightings of Chris.

Unlike his [[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Mythbusters|last out-of-state trip]] five years before, he did not bring [[Barb]] with him, however she did make him call her twice a day to check up on her<ref name=clare></ref>. One of his friends implied that she was helping Chris by promising to be on call for Barb if she needed help during the weekend.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-8-11-2017-chris-spotted-at-bronycon.33187/page-19#post-2507095 "a friend asked me to be on call for her mom while she is out of town."</ref>

Overall, Chris' trip to Bronycon went abnormally well and seemingly without incident. He even described feeling "the MOST Love I have ever felt in my life" after returning home.

==Day 1==

Chris met Cathy Weseluck, a voice actress for MLP, talked to her about Sonichu and CWCville,<ref name=clare>[[Clare Porter]]</ref> and got an autograph and a photo with her. He also met [[Clare Porter]], a fan of his. Chris can be seen toting three large bags throughout the convention which apparently contained "the original copies of Sonichu",<ref name=clare></ref> snacks, and toys.

<center><gallery>
File:Bc1 1.jpg|A wild clopper has been spotted!
File:Clopper_Spotting.JPG
File:Clopper Spotting2.png
File:Bc1 2.png
File:Bc1 3.jpg|In line for a panel.
File:cwc bronycon 2017 1.jpg|Donning his brand new [[unicorn cosplay]].
File:Bc1 with RarifriendHN.jpg
File:cwc bronycon 2017 2.jpg|With Cathy Weseluck, a voice actress.
File:cwc bronycon 2017 4.jpg|"Also, Fluffle licking Vinyl. LOL"
File:Flufflepuff cwc glasses.jpg|"Fluffle Puff looks smart with my glasses; [[Ego|she Knows a Lot. 😋]]"
File:Bc1 - chris card.png|Miiverse card, which he handed out. Note the lazy correction of Christian to Christine.
File:Spike-sonichu.jpg ‎|"Spike loves Sonichu too. :)"
File:Chris and scared girl.jpg|
</gallery></center>

==Day 2==

[[File:Bc2 mlp-soul-min.jpg|thumb|150px]]
An /mlp/ user got Chris's autograph.

{{quoteboxred|I don't know anything about this year's CWC drama, but I'm glad to have my own little souvenir from the Con. After the panel Chris was showing a little girl a binder of Sonichu stuff with a Sonic Rainboom in it, so I took my opportunity.<ref name=mlp></ref>}}

The same user provided an audio clip, apparently of Chris.

{{transcript}}

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0TkJ0kRIb17

[[File:Chris at the Grand Galloping Gala.jpg|thumb|200px|Another, less shitty shot of Chris at the Gala.]]
Another user reported playing against Chris at poker and accidentally misgendering him, and answered a few questions:

{{quoteboxred|Okay. So who's this Christine? I played poker against her in the tournament and she got really, really fucking mad when I accidentally called her - him.
I never care to call someone by their shitty preferred gender, but fuck you got to give me some time to figure out what you fucking want to be called.

I met her again at the gala and shes been glaring at me. Lol.

I didn't realize she was a meme until I saw pictures. Who is she?}}

{{quoteboxyellow|How did he smell like? Did he joined you at poker? Did you beat him?}}

{{quoteboxred|Bad.

It was a paired tournament so we didn't have be a choice who we played.

And she can't play worth a shit. But she did manage to build off of idiots. She lost it all chasing though.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|Did he say anything else at all? Talked about his comic? Was he alone?}}

{{quoteboxred|Nah. Just a lot of shit about people needing to respect correct genders.}}

[[File:Bc2 mlp3.jpg|thumb|200px]]

A fan complimented Chris on the Sonichu merch he had brought with him:

{{quoteboxred|I found Chris-Chan at a panel and gained his trust.

I asked him if his Sonichu Medallion was authentic, and he said "I am the she that used to be that he that.." and then quickly showed me the first edition of Sonichu.

He wanted to take a selfie with me, and here it is after cropping myself out.

Then he shook my hand for some reason.}}

A 4chan user claimed that Chris was "told off" by convention officials for "going up to guests and saying he's horny," apparently in reference to his plastic unicorn horn. However, there is no solid evidence backing up this claim, and at this point it should be taken with a grain of salt.

During the early morning hours, Chris was spotted walking away from a parking garage which had closed for the night, leaving him unable to access his car.<ref name=mlp></ref> He took an Uber back to his hotel.

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<center><gallery>
File:Bc2 mlp1 (see summary for hi-res link).jpg|Totes Lez.
File:Bc2 mlp2 (reduced size, see comment).png|Viewing "Keeping Friendship Magic: The Odd Pony Out" panel.
File:Bc2 with Kelly Sheridan.jpg|"Me and Kelly [Sheridan], Times Two!"
File:Chris at Bronypalooza.jpg| Spotted again at Bronypalooza, a BronyCon concert.
File:Blurry Chris spotting.jpg| Chris at the Grand Galloping Gala.
File:Bc2 with imaginary friend.jpg|"He's sitting here talking to himself and holding his hand out in front himself."
File:Bc2 mlp4.jpg|Cropped selfie with a fan.
File:Chris with @PopPunkAlto.jpg| Shut-in minds think alike.
File:Bc2 with @BookFag.jpg
File:Chris with @flutterplushies.jpg| Chris in his Gala dress.
File:Chris and @KrazyKariana.jpg| With a gal-pal/potential [[Love Quest|sweetheart]].
File:Chris Posing BC D2.jpg| Chris posing for a photo, legging holes on full display.
File:Bronycon d2 posing with mascots.jpg| With two other unicorns.
File:Chris' belongings at Bronycon.jpg|Chris' belongings.
File:Bc2 mlp5.jpg|Locked out of the parking garage.
File:Bc2 with Tetsuotherobot.jpg |"Just helped out @CWCSonichu with an uber. Worth it."
</gallery></center>

===Videos===
Chris appears in voice actor Claire Corlett's vlog for Day 2. Chris is seen briefly at 4:32 in the background, above the Brony wearing the rainbow wig.
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| Stardate = 12 August 2017
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==Day 3==

Chris spent his final day at Bronycon attending a panel, taking pictures with cosplayers and other fans, and no doubt buying more crap he doesn't need with his [[Patreon]] and [[Monthly Tugboat|tugboat]] money. He wore a [[Chris and fashion|multicolored poncho]] as a top, somehow managing to look even worse than he did for the previous two days.

Day 3 pictures of Chris confirm that he wore the same ripped pair of [[Chris and fashion|leggings]] for three consecutive days. Based on his lack of basic hygiene habits, it can be assumed that they were not washed for the entire weekend.

<center><gallery>
File:Chris at the Holiday Inn Express.jpg| Chris fueling up before the con at the Holiday Inn Express.
File:Chris on a bus.jpg| Chris, presumably carpooling to the con.
File:Bronycon 2017 Panel.jpg|The panel Chris visited his final day at Bronycon.
File:Chris' outfit Bronycon day 3.jpg| A head-to-toe view of Chris' Day 3 outfit.
File:Spike in a Pikachu costume.jpg| The second drawing of Spike in a Pikachu costume. This one's only nominally less [[Chris and art|disturbing]] than the first.
‎File:Fluffle Love.jpg| "Lots of Fluffle Love. :)"
File:Chris looking uncomfortable with unknown man.jpg| Looking uncomfortable with a fan.
File:Chris dabbing.jpg| Chris performing a mating dance to attract a potential sweetheart. Pictured with [[Clare Porter]].
File:CWCmobile.jpg| [[Son-Chu]] 3.0 crossing the Virginia state line, on it's way back to the [[14 Branchland Court|horde]].
</gallery></center>

===Videos===
{{transcript}}
Chris was recorded asking a [[Chris and oration|difficult-to-understand]] question about ad-libbing at the aforementioned panel, but not before greeting them in a jarringly high-pitched voice. He later shared the video on [[Facebook]], with the caption "So cute! :)". {{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = CWC at Bronycon 2017
| video = {{#ev:youtube|dA0Ax1OYtAU}}
| Stardate = 13 August 2017
| Maker = BB Rocket
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}

The panel's response to Chris is as below: {{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris Chan at Bronycon 2017
| video = {{#ev:youtube|dKDEI7CJ-2I}}
| Stardate = 16 August 2017
| Maker = The Last Tendie
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}

==Souvenirs and autographs==

After the around three-hour drive back to [[14 Branchland Court]], Chris shared images on Facebook, showing pieces of merchandise he purchased along with some new drawings he made. Some of these were autographed by other visitors to the convention, notably several [[Chris and socialization#MLP voice actresses|MLP voice actresses]].

<center><gallery>
File:Signed Sonichu.jpg| Chris had Cathy Weseluck, the voice actress for Spike the Dragon, autograph his "personal copy of Sonichu #0".
File:KSheridan Drawing.jpg| Kelly Sheridan, an actress best known for voicing Barbie and "Indigo Zap", signed one of Chris's drawings.
File:CMC Drawing.jpg| Claire Corlett, Michelle Creber, Madeleine Peters, and Brynna Drummond all "read" about Chris's "many talents" and signed his [[Chris and ego|ego-stroking]] drawing for him.
File:Signed BC Picture.jpg| Daniel Ingram's (?) autograph on a picture of two ponies.
File:Vinyl Scratch Figure.jpg| Nowacking autographed Chris's Vinyl Scratch figure for him. Nowacking would later block Chris on Twitter.
File:BC fb haul 1.JPG| Finally, FluffyMixer signed Chris's bag with mysterious brown stains.
</gallery></center>

==See also==

*[[Chris and socialization]]
*[[Chris and hygiene]]

==References==
<references/>

{{Places}}

Nudes

2017-10-17T06:32:12Z

Camille: /* Drawn nudes */

{{Honest}}

[[Image:CWCnudes.jpg|thumb|right|Typical reaction to Chris Chan nudes.]]

On several occasions, '''nude''' photographs and screencaps showing [[Chris]]'s uncovered or scantly covered body, often including his [[duck|genitals]], have leaked onto the [[Internet]].

==History==
The first nudes were obtained by [[Lordsillynipples]], a [[troll]] posing as Chris's off-and-on sweetheart [[Blanca Weiss]]. They hit the Internet on [[Twin Falling Towers|11]] [[September 2008]] and were quickly followed by a second round of photos released five days later by trolls who hacked Chris's e-mail account. They included photos of a mostly-naked Chris standing around in his room, close-up shots of his flaccid [[duck]] with a crude cartoon of [[Sonichu]] on it, and the infamous photo of Chris posing in his [[mother]]'s underwear.

In the first set of nudes, Chris was smart enough not to include his face in any of the pictures. However, he was [[Naive|foolish]] enough to take them in what was clearly his room, complete with a picture of [[Rosechu]] visible in the background.

21 September 2008 saw the release of webcam-snapped photos showing more of Chris's penis. On 25 September, they were followed by a series of [[Chris Sex Videos|sex videos]] Chris recorded at the behest of his would-be sweetheart [[PandaHalo]]. These featured Chris [[Mass debating|masturbating]] and employing the [[fapcup]], and gave the world a good look at the joint in his duck for the first time. Even more masturbation videos hit the web two weeks later, on 6 [[October 2008]].

Chris's blow-up doll sex tape, [[For Julie's Eyes Only]], is perhaps the most famous exposure his body has ever received. It was leaked on 20 [[February 2009]]. It came close to being equaled on 16 [[April 2009]], however, when Chris recorded a [[April 16 Fetish Vids|series of videos]] for his new sweetheart [[Ivy]] where (among other things) he stripped naked, danced in his shower, and spanked himself on camera.

After the [[CWCFlyingElephants]] video, leaked on 27 April 2009, Chris's naked body did not reappear on the internet for nearly two years. Unfortunately, it did not leave us for good. He showed off his duck once again (to what he believed was a limited audience) in the [[Cwcsicle]] clip, leaked in [[March 2011]], and more bare flesh followed a month later in the [[Tomgirl Pictures]].

Meanwhile, potential sweetheart [[Jackie]] persuaded Christine to make two more NSFW videos. In [[Little Tomboy Blue]], Chris performs a striptease, showing his cleavage and jiggling his ass. And in what might be his most disgusting video (although the competition is stiff), [[Cakefarts]] features his chocolate-covered butt and semi-erect duck, with the bend apparent. Both videos were apparently produced in July 2011 and released to a rapturous public in February 2012, on Chris's birthday.

Coming out as a transgender lesbian in mid-2014 required Chris to reevaluate his genitalia, and he proudly showed off several modifications to his sweetheart [[Catherine]] and other gal-pals. In September he pierced his taint, dubbing it the [[un-clit]], and we got to see one of the few remaining parts of Chris's body which he had not yet revealed. Around the same time he took photos of his crotch to demonstrate how he tucks his junk with a red dildo harness.

==Drawn nudes==
On many occasions, Chris has drawn crude images depicting himself, [[Megan|his]] [[Ivy|friends]], or characters from his comic without clothes on, often engaging in sexual acts. For more information on these images, see [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]]. '''Read and weep at your own risk.'''

==Gallery of horrors==

{{gallery
|Fair warning is given, viewing these images may result in blindness and/or copious amounts of vomit. Also, the less these are viewed at work, the better.
|<gallery perrow="5">

Image:Cwcshaven.JPG|The sad thing is, it's longer and wider when it's limp. Plus, the bend isn't as obvious.
Image:CWCMyduck.JPG|The uncensored image constitutes a crime against humanity in accordance with international law.
Image:CWCass.JPG|This was sent to a straight woman, because straight women are turned on by men's asses.
Image:CWCanus.JPG|Where Chris [[Julie Reveals Herself|stores his medallions]].
Image:CWCduck.jpg|In all its [[Jew|cut]] glory.
Image:Bent_duck.jpg|Note the green bathrobe that Chris would later wear in the recycling video.
Image:Cwcduckling.JPG‎|Mother of God.......
Image:CWCsonichuduck.JPG|It is unknown whether drawing Sonichu on his penis was Chris's or lordsillynipples's idea.
Image:fapcupwhy.jpg|Chris using the [[Fapcup]].
Image:CWCs-Weeping-Pickle.jpg|The aftermath from using the Fapcup. Notice how [[navy]] is still dripping from his shrunken duck.
File:CWCpanties1.JPG|Chris in his mother's panties, apparently for [[Blanca]]'s benefit.
File:Panties 1.png|Another.
File:Panties 2.png|Yet another.
Image:CWCmassdebate.jpg|Screencaps from a [[Chris Sex Videos|webcam video]] shot in the Chandler's filthy kitchen.
File:Assofterror.jpg|Chris's ass of terror, part of a video for [[Vanessa]].
Image:Fallingoffbalance.jpg|Chris slips and almost seriously injures himself while dancing naked in his filthy shower.
Image:Thenightmarecontinues.jpg|Guess he's a shower, not a grower.
Image:Spanking3.jpg|Chris spanks himself and films it as an apology to [[Ivy]].
File:Ecp00066.jpg|Chris is also forced to wear a [[butt garments|diaper]] for Ivy, but winks to make it sexy.
Image:CWCtopless.jpg|Topless, but not medallionless.
File:TG13.jpg|One of the [[tomgirl]] images. Technically not nude--he's wearing a banana hammock.
File:TG20.jpg|Another sexy tomgirl photo, as seen by millions on MTV.
File:Unclit (NSFL).jpg|Chris's taint piercing, the [[un-clit]].
File:Unclit (INFECTED!!!).jpg|A few weeks later, and the piercing is rejecting.
File:ChrisContraption 03.JPG|Chris demonstrating how he tucks his duck, with bonus un-clit.
</gallery>}}

[[Category:N00dz]]
[[Category:Lists]]

BronyMate

2017-10-17T04:14:35Z

Camille:

{{Stub}}
'''BronyMate''' is an online dating website for [[My Little Pony|bronies]]. Chris made an account on this site on 27 August, 2017.<ref>https://www.bronymate.com/index.php?m=member_profile&p=profile&id=54848</ref>

==NightStar1982 profile==
[[File:Coke, Unicorn cosplay.jpg|thumb|250px|Chris's profile picture.]]
This profile, using the name of Chris's [[Night Star|ponysona]], was first discovered by [[Kiwi Farms]] users after Chris replied to a tweet by BronyMate on Twitter.

{{collapsible|Profile text|
'''I am a:''' [[Tomgirl|Trans]] 
'''Seeking a:''' Woman 
'''Age:''' 35 
'''Country:''' [[United States of America|United States]] 
'''City:''' [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]] 
'''State / Province:''' [[Virginia is for Virgins|Virginia]] 
'''Height:''' 5' 11" 
'''Body type:''' [[Lie|Average]] 
'''Hair:''' Dark Brown 
'''Eyes:''' Blue 
'''Ethnicity:''' Caucasian (white) 
'''Favorite Pony:''' Vinyl Scratch 
'''All About Me:''' I am an all-ground, good natured, [[Autism|high-functioning autistic]], Female Lesbian Soul, and Transwoman, [[Chris and art|artist]], [[video games|gamer]] and creative type. I am the [[Plagiarism|Original Creator]] of [[Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], and the city of [[CWCville|Cwcville]], VA. I like making those close to me feel emotionally happy. :) 
'''I am looking for:''' A kind, compassionate, good-looking woman, as local as possible, who would appreciate me for who I am, and not judge me. Friendship First is my motto in a relationship.}}

== See Also ==

* [[OkCupid]]

== References ==

<references/>

{{The Internet}}

Flipnote Hatena

2017-10-17T01:44:43Z

Camille:

{{Articleofthenow}}

'''Flipnote Hatena''' was a website where users could upload and share their creations from the free downloadable application for the [[Nintendo]] DSi, '''''Flipnote Studio''''', which allowed users to create both word and picture-based notes with the stylus, add sound, and put them together to create frame-by-frame flipbook-style animations. Other users could comment on them either by text, or by creating a Flipnote.

In [[June 2010]], [[Chris]] was spotted at a [[Fridays After Five]] event in [[Charlottesville]]. Among some very disturbing behavior, Chris was seen playing with his DSi for some time. It later came to light that, after [[June062010.MOV|leaving the Internet forever]], he was now spending his time on Flipnote Hatena, drawing comments in reply to various Flipnotes. Being a [[slow-in-the-mind|retard]], he helped [[Clyde Cash|a valiant troll]] to find him by registering with his full name.

After a little more than two weeks of shameless self-promotion and sharing his creepy sex fantasies with the world, Chris got himself banned. Chris's account became active again on 24 July, prior to the service ending on 31 [[May 2013]].

==Chris's Flipnote Career==
[[File:FlipnoteSonichu.png|thumb|Further proof that Sonichu will dominate every aspect of Chris's life until the day he dies.]]

Predictably, Chris's first contribution to the Flipnote community was a picture of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], posted on 17 June 2010. Over the next two weeks, he added several more Flipnotes featuring a mixture of his trademarks: whining about [[trolls]], and [[random-access humor]].

Chris's Flipnotes freely swiped from various sources of "inspiration". He ripped off some other users' Flipnotes almost wholesale, uses bases for his works, and even plagiarized the [[1983]] animated ''[[Peanuts]]'' cartoon "Sally at School" to produce two of his shorts. He stole the dialogue from the first few minutes almost verbatim (the word "princess" is replaced with "[[Women's rights|sexy, beautiful woman]]" because Chris has [[Love Quest|a one-track mind]]) and used them in [[Official Videobooks|his crude animations]].

At the same time, he also posted a number of comments on other Flipnotes (excerpted below) and added a [[sockpuppets|lot of stars on his own creations to give himself praise]].

On 29 June 2010, Chris first drew the attention of the site's administrators when they removed several of his rule-infringing Flipnotes. For example,[[RomanticLabyrinth]] was taken down for being disturbingly sexual. Other Flipnotes were removed from the site for other reasons--Chris autographing many of his Flipnotes infringes their rule about sharing personal information, and several of his other Flipnotes infringed intellectual property rights.

Over the next few days, Chris failed to get the message and repeatedly re-uploaded several of his deleted Flipnotes. On the third version of RomanticLabyrinth, Chris accused the trolls of trying to make him look like a [[homo]], and stubbornly tried to reupload the Flipnote to prove otherwise. The site's administrators ran out of patience on 2 July 2010 and banned him.

Note that the moderators of the site were, by nature of their position, no doubt well aware of how trolling and various other forms of Internet harassment work. Despite what Chris would have you believe, they would never have punished him for what someone else did in his comments section. Unlike Chris, they didn't have an effectively infinite amount of time to dick around on the Internet, so they wouldn't take kindly to flag abuse, either. Someone didn't give him exactly what he wanted so he decided to go out of his way to flip his shit and get himself banned, without trying to be banned and without ever understanding the reasons for being banned, from yet another public venue that [[The GAMe PLACe|dozens]], [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|hundreds]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|thousands]], or [[YouTube|millions]] of people use every day without issue, proving once again that [[Kick the Autistic|no one can troll Chris better than Chris himself]].

==Chris's Flipnotes Return...==
{{quote|After the week was over, and I was able to again access the Hatena from my DSi, I had previously unlinked my DSi from my past account and relinked it to a New account with a different name.|Chris, on [[Jackie E-mails 3|ban evasion]]}}

Showing once again that he never learns, on 24 July a number of Chris's Flipnotes reappeared, including the "tame" version of RomanticLabyrinth. This time, though, he disabled comments on all his submissions, perhaps working on the assumption that it was the comments from viewers (and not the content of his Flipnotes) that led to his original ban.

Within two days after Chris's return to the site, several of his Flipnotes disappeared from his account, including RomanticLabyrinth and others that had been deleted before for violating the TOS. He later reuploaded the deleted Flipnotes. After what felt like the ''sixth time'' of reuploading these animations, none of them were taken down. Either this was because the mods got tired of dealing with his bullshit, or because [[weens|vigilantes]] had given up reporting them.

On 10 June, almost a year later, Chris made a [[3DS Flipnote]] complaining about how Nintendo wasn't making an update for the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo 3DS|3DS]] fast enough for his liking.

===...and Then Depart Again===
On 31 May 2013, Flipnote Hatena was shut down, with Flipnotes now no longer visible from either the official site or the application itself. Happily, Chris's Flipnotes have been mirrored on [[YouTube]]. In total, Chris made twelve Flipnotes, got 24,465 views, received 22,482 stars, and received 604 comments.

==Flipnote Studio 3D==
On 13 [[March 2013]], it was announced that the DSi incarnation of Flipnote Hatena would be shut down on 31 May, in favor of another incarnation for the Nintendo 3DS, called Flipnote Studio 3D. It was released in Japan on 24 [[July 2013]], and after plenty of pushbacks and anticipation was released in [[February 2015]] for American [[Club Nintendo]] users as a going-away present for the program's shutdown in [[June 2015]], nearly two years after its Japanese release. Owing to Chris's prior interest in the application and his current ownership of a 3DS, it is likely that he will join the new community, especially since he gushed about the game a day later on [[Facebook]].

Of particular note is that while the ordinary version of Flipnote Studio 3D is free, a version that allows one to view creations from all over the globe will cost a monthly fee; owing to Chris's [[Chris and money|spending habits]], it is possible he will be using the worldwide version. Flipnote Studio 3D will also allow one to download previous Flipnotes made on Hatena, a feature that Chris will most likely abuse.

So far, aside from using [[Miiverse]] to spam the community with his [[Sonic Boom Protests]], he has not been seen reuploading his old Flipnotes, including RomanticLabyrinth. Either he has learned his lesson, or he's simply too lazy to try and reupload it again (most likely the latter).

==Chris's Flipnotes==
{{Main|List of Flipnotes}}

==Chris's Comments==
Chris's comments on Flipnote Hatena, much like his comments elsewhere on the Internet, were self-centered and devoid of any follow-up.

<center><gallery>
File:Flipnote Comment-Boo.png|"Boo!"
File:Flipnote Comment-Louder.png|"Could you make the voice louder + easier to comprehend, please?"
File:Flipnote Comment-My Trolls.png|"My Trolls did that to my [[:Category:Chris's websites|past websites]] too. I felt [[CWC is Sad|hurt deeply]] too."
File:Flipnote Comment-Raised Eyebrow.png| "C.W.C"
File:Flipnote Comment-Cow.png|Some other retarded comment about a [[RandomSong1|cow]]
File:Flipnote Comment-YHBT 1.png|You're singing [[Song of Christian|my song]]. I was [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|Internet Famous]]... HUGE MISTAKE! Right now, I have removed Most Every... thing about myself...
File:Flipnote Comment-YHBT 2.png|...from the internet. Now there is only [[Honest Content|FALSE info]] on me that THEY have crafted and spread to Bad-Rep me.
File:Flipnote Comment-YHBT 3.png|And worse they've found me in R. Life to catch footage of me for their [[Laughs Under Lucricities|gross, uncool amusement]].
File:Flipnote Comment-YHBT 4.png|I WANT TO GO BACK TO A NORMAL REAL LIFE [[Chris and the Internet#Attempts_to_leave_the_Internet|OFF THE FRIGGIN' INTERNET!!!]]
File:Flipnote Comment-YHBT 5.png|AND I WANT MY "REP" CLEAN OF THIER [sic] CRAP! DO you have any advice to help me clear their crap off me?
File:HippoHeadComment.png|Response to comment in "Hippo on your head"
File:Diamon1.png|
File:Diamon2.png|
File:Diamon3.png|
File:Flipbookhonorroll.png|True words of [[honor roll|geinus]]
File:Flipnotegood.png|If Chris says you're a good artist, you must be really good!
File:Flipnotevoice.png|Not a [[pedofork]]!
File:CWCcomment1.gif|"That was Sweeet. I can tell you have a [[Bubbles Rosechu|bubbly]] personality from your style. Your [[JERKS|Boyfriend]] is lucky to...
File:CWCcomment2.gif|...to have a [[gal-pal|gal]] like you. :) Stay Sweet & Safe, Christian Weston Chandler. PS: Thanks for Faving me <strike>something</strike> back.
File:Flipnoteninja.png|
File:11542841929539631934 o.gif|Not a quid-pro-quo!
</gallery></center>

Comment left on other videos without a picture:

*"Why can't I find THIS FlipNote on my DSi, even through YOUR Profile's Posted F.N. pages? I want to download it; it IS funny. [:)]" (In response to a flipnote that is completely ripped off from ''[[Family Guy]]''.)

==Chris's Favorites==
What Chris favorited should not come as a surprise. In addition to the obligatory ''[[Sonic]]'', ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Family Guy]]'' flipnotes, Chris favorited a number of [[gal-pal|female-drawn]] animations, done in [[anime]]-like styling and done with a particularly ''shoujo-ai''/''yuri'' ([[homos|lesbian]], for those not into animu) flavor.

==Sockpuppets==
Chris apparently registered several sockpuppet accounts to favorite himself and give high ratings. For example, in the space of a few days, [[RomanticLabyrinth]] attained over 10,000 stars. This is reminiscent of his campaign to cheat in the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], in which he freely admitted to voting for himself multiple times.

Suspected sockpuppets included EnterGodmode, Sonichuwulf, and Sonichu4ever.

{{Flipnotes}}
{{The Internet}}
[[Category:Flipnote Hatena]]
[[Category:Historical Documents]]
[[Category:Hobbies]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Planet Dolan

2017-10-17T01:16:58Z

Camille: /* See also */

[[File:Chris, Lady, and Doopie.jpg|thumb|Artist's rendition of Chris' contact with the crew.]]

'''''Planet Dolan''''' is a [[YouTube]] top 10 channel that [[Chris]] has gained an interest for. It was originally known as ''Danger Dolan'', but after gaining several new members with its growing popularity and the success of a spin-off animation channel called ''Planet Dolan'', the main channel was renamed to that name, while the animation channel was renamed to ''Super Planet Dolan''. Chris has gained an interest for the channel, but only really after becoming infatuated with one of its animators/voice actresses, [[DoopieDoOver]].

== Interactions with the staff ==

Ever since Chris discovered the channel in August of 2016, Chris has started to contact some of the staff, such as [[DoopieDoOver]], VimHomeless, and Ladybot3 the next year. Doopie has since cut contact with Chris. Hellbent has commented on Chris-related videos on YouTube, and even follows at least one of [[Michael Hirtes]]'s accounts on Twitter. Grgak, in a [[Kiwi Farms]] post, has said that he believes most Planet Dolan members are aware of Chris's past and just brush it off, though Chris's interactions with Doopie has made a few of them uncomfortable.

===DoopieDoOver===
{{main|DoopieDoOver}}
Because of his neverending [[Love Quest]], Chris took an interest in Doopie as a potential [[sweetheart]]. Predictably, this has caused a lot of problems for the latter, who had initially decided to ignore the [[weens]] and treat Chris like any regular customer. Of course, being the guy he is, Chris misinterpreted her kindness as being interested in him.

==== #HarassCWCdirectly ====
{{main|HarassCWCdirectly}}

[[File:PlanetDolanHarrassment.png|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes!]]

Due to the misinterpretation of a post made by [[Doopie]] clearly telling Chris to stop stalking her, Chris came to the false conclusion that Doopie was cutting contact with him because of trolls, instead of his own creepy messages. He also assumed the trolls were after the entire Planet Dolan crew, and not just Doopie.

===LadyOfTheCosmo===
{{main|LadyOfTheCosmo#Twitter}}

On 25 August 2017, Chris got into a Twitter brawl with [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a comic artist with close ties to many of the channel's members, including Doopie. Chris got blocked shortly after he decided to stop following her.

===Grgak===

On 29 August, Planet Dolan member Grgak started a thread on the [[Kiwi Farms]], noting that he had been following Chris since 2008 and posting several screencaps of Chris's messages to him, including one where Chris asks him to share his Twitter poll concerning the "[[trolls|The Many Internet Trolls]]". Grgak decided to vote against Chris in the poll.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/a-little-bit-of-something.33766/</ref>

<center><gallery>
File:Grgak1.png
File:Grgak2.png
File:Grgak3.png|The poll in question (ouch).
</gallery></center>

==In the comic==
The cast of Planet Dolan was expected to appear in the upcoming [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]], although it is currently unknown how much [[DoopieDoOver#Shot down|his interactions with Doopie]] and [[LadyOfTheCosmo#Twitter|LadyOfTheCosmo]], as well as his being blocked by various others affiliated with the channel, will affect these plans. Chris stated in August 2017 that [[Night Star]], his imaginary ponysona, would be featured<ref>[[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content]]</ref> and followed up by replacing his ''Sonichu''/''Dolan'' comic cover with one of Night Star.

== See also ==

*[[DoopieDoOver]]
*[[LadyOfTheCosmo#Twitter]]
*[[HarassCWCDirectly]]

== References ==
<references/>

== External Links ==

*[https://www.youtube.com/user/DDTop20/ Planet Dolan]
*[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3D_ZXHwaKekKwbO_LM48OQ/ Super Planet Dolan]

{{People}}
{{The Internet}}

Planet Dolan

2017-10-17T01:15:39Z

Camille: /* Grgak */

[[File:Chris, Lady, and Doopie.jpg|thumb|Artist's rendition of Chris' contact with the crew.]]

'''''Planet Dolan''''' is a [[YouTube]] top 10 channel that [[Chris]] has gained an interest for. It was originally known as ''Danger Dolan'', but after gaining several new members with its growing popularity and the success of a spin-off animation channel called ''Planet Dolan'', the main channel was renamed to that name, while the animation channel was renamed to ''Super Planet Dolan''. Chris has gained an interest for the channel, but only really after becoming infatuated with one of its animators/voice actresses, [[DoopieDoOver]].

== Interactions with the staff ==

Ever since Chris discovered the channel in August of 2016, Chris has started to contact some of the staff, such as [[DoopieDoOver]], VimHomeless, and Ladybot3 the next year. Doopie has since cut contact with Chris. Hellbent has commented on Chris-related videos on YouTube, and even follows at least one of [[Michael Hirtes]]'s accounts on Twitter. Grgak, in a [[Kiwi Farms]] post, has said that he believes most Planet Dolan members are aware of Chris's past and just brush it off, though Chris's interactions with Doopie has made a few of them uncomfortable.

===DoopieDoOver===
{{main|DoopieDoOver}}
Because of his neverending [[Love Quest]], Chris took an interest in Doopie as a potential [[sweetheart]]. Predictably, this has caused a lot of problems for the latter, who had initially decided to ignore the [[weens]] and treat Chris like any regular customer. Of course, being the guy he is, Chris misinterpreted her kindness as being interested in him.

==== #HarassCWCdirectly ====
{{main|HarassCWCdirectly}}

[[File:PlanetDolanHarrassment.png|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes!]]

Due to the misinterpretation of a post made by [[Doopie]] clearly telling Chris to stop stalking her, Chris came to the false conclusion that Doopie was cutting contact with him because of trolls, instead of his own creepy messages. He also assumed the trolls were after the entire Planet Dolan crew, and not just Doopie.

===LadyOfTheCosmo===
{{main|LadyOfTheCosmo#Twitter}}

On 25 August 2017, Chris got into a Twitter brawl with [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a comic artist with close ties to many of the channel's members, including Doopie. Chris got blocked shortly after he decided to stop following her.

===Grgak===

On 29 August, Planet Dolan member Grgak started a thread on the [[Kiwi Farms]], noting that he had been following Chris since 2008 and posting several screencaps of Chris's messages to him, including one where Chris asks him to share his Twitter poll concerning the "[[trolls|The Many Internet Trolls]]". Grgak decided to vote against Chris in the poll.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/a-little-bit-of-something.33766/</ref>

<center><gallery>
File:Grgak1.png
File:Grgak2.png
File:Grgak3.png|The poll in question (ouch).
</gallery></center>

==In the comic==
The cast of Planet Dolan was expected to appear in the upcoming [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]], although it is currently unknown how much [[DoopieDoOver#Shot down|his interactions with Doopie]] and [[LadyOfTheCosmo#Twitter|LadyOfTheCosmo]], as well as his being blocked by various others affiliated with the channel, will affect these plans. Chris stated in August 2017 that [[Night Star]], his imaginary ponysona, would be featured<ref>[[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content]]</ref> and followed up by replacing his ''Sonichu''/''Dolan'' comic cover with one of Night Star.

== See also ==

*[[DoopieDoOver]]

== References ==
<references/>

== External Links ==

*[https://www.youtube.com/user/DDTop20/ Planet Dolan]
*[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3D_ZXHwaKekKwbO_LM48OQ/ Super Planet Dolan]

{{People}}
{{The Internet}}

Planet Dolan

2017-10-17T01:11:09Z

Camille: /* DoopieDoOver */

[[File:Chris, Lady, and Doopie.jpg|thumb|Artist's rendition of Chris' contact with the crew.]]

'''''Planet Dolan''''' is a [[YouTube]] top 10 channel that [[Chris]] has gained an interest for. It was originally known as ''Danger Dolan'', but after gaining several new members with its growing popularity and the success of a spin-off animation channel called ''Planet Dolan'', the main channel was renamed to that name, while the animation channel was renamed to ''Super Planet Dolan''. Chris has gained an interest for the channel, but only really after becoming infatuated with one of its animators/voice actresses, [[DoopieDoOver]].

== Interactions with the staff ==

Ever since Chris discovered the channel in August of 2016, Chris has started to contact some of the staff, such as [[DoopieDoOver]], VimHomeless, and Ladybot3 the next year. Doopie has since cut contact with Chris. Hellbent has commented on Chris-related videos on YouTube, and even follows at least one of [[Michael Hirtes]]'s accounts on Twitter. Grgak, in a [[Kiwi Farms]] post, has said that he believes most Planet Dolan members are aware of Chris's past and just brush it off, though Chris's interactions with Doopie has made a few of them uncomfortable.

===DoopieDoOver===
{{main|DoopieDoOver}}
Because of his neverending [[Love Quest]], Chris took an interest in Doopie as a potential [[sweetheart]]. Predictably, this has caused a lot of problems for the latter, who had initially decided to ignore the [[weens]] and treat Chris like any regular customer. Of course, being the guy he is, Chris misinterpreted her kindness as being interested in him.

==== #HarassCWCdirectly ====
{{main|HarassCWCdirectly}}

[[File:PlanetDolanHarrassment.png|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes!]]

Due to the misinterpretation of a post made by [[Doopie]] clearly telling Chris to stop stalking her, Chris came to the false conclusion that Doopie was cutting contact with him because of trolls, instead of his own creepy messages. He also assumed the trolls were after the entire Planet Dolan crew, and not just Doopie.

===LadyOfTheCosmo===
{{main|LadyOfTheCosmo#Twitter}}

On 25 August 2017, Chris got into a Twitter brawl with [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a comic artist with close ties to many of the channel's members, including Doopie. Chris got blocked shortly after he decided to stop following her.

===Grgak===

On 29 August, Planet Dolan member Grgak started a thread on the [[Kiwi Farms]], noting that he had been following Chris since 2008 and posting several screencaps of Chris's messages to him, including one where Chris asks him to share his Twitter poll concerning the "[[trolls|The Many Internet Trolls]]". Grgak decided to vote against Chris in the poll.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/a-little-bit-of-something.33766/</ref>

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File:Grgak1.png
File:Grgak2.png
File:Grgak3.png|The poll in question.
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==In the comic==
The cast of Planet Dolan was expected to appear in the upcoming [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]], although it is currently unknown how much [[DoopieDoOver#Shot down|his interactions with Doopie]] and [[LadyOfTheCosmo#Twitter|LadyOfTheCosmo]], as well as his being blocked by various others affiliated with the channel, will affect these plans. Chris stated in August 2017 that [[Night Star]], his imaginary ponysona, would be featured<ref>[[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content]]</ref> and followed up by replacing his ''Sonichu''/''Dolan'' comic cover with one of Night Star.

== See also ==

*[[DoopieDoOver]]

== References ==
<references/>

== External Links ==

*[https://www.youtube.com/user/DDTop20/ Planet Dolan]
*[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3D_ZXHwaKekKwbO_LM48OQ/ Super Planet Dolan]

{{People}}
{{The Internet}}

Tumblr

2017-10-17T01:10:20Z

Camille:

[[File:Cwcsonichutumblr.png|thumb|Chris's header]]

On August 15, 2017, Chris made a '''Tumblr''' account, possibly as a new social media platform to reach out to his fans. Most of his posts so far consist of reblogs of [[Patreon]] updates and [[Facebook]] and [[Twitter]] statuses.

==Intro==

{{quotebox|Hello, tumblr folks! I am Miss Christine Chandler, creator of Sonichu, Rosechu and the city of Cwcville, VA. I have been working for more than a decade, and still going well and stronger. This is an expansion in my online network. And, as I am just getting started here, please also check me out on my Twitter @CWCSonichu, my Patreon, <nowiki>patreon.com/user?u=4525122, and facebook.com/CwcvilleGuardian.</nowiki> Thank you for your patience as I will share content on here as well.}}

==Interactions with other Users==
Chris left several comments on fancomic ''Rosechu's Story.''

{{quotebox|In that regard, the Cwcville Gym Badges manufactured in Cwcville are actually made of metal, like that of an actual pin or gym badge. Here, in this reality, I don’t possess the skill set to make custom metal pins. But, eventually, the Cwcville Badge pins will be available for purchase.
-Chris, on the reference to the manner in which his [[medallions]] were crafted <ref>http://rosechustory.tumblr.com/post/125923872601/this-took-a-lot-longer-than-it-usually-does-and#notes</ref>}}

{{quotebox|[[Chris and women|I was never a chauvinist]]. Regardless of my feelings about women, both genders are equally able to things the other can (not counting the default child-birthing under normal circumstances). Also, having one be wild, and the other previously trained, was just how it happened.
- Chris when the strip pointed out the uselessness of Rosechus <ref>http://rosechustory.tumblr.com/post/132783694126/just-what-this-comic-needed-more-mysteries#notes</ref>}}

{{quotebox|What song is that?
-It's "For You, I Will", by Monica <ref>http://rosechustory.tumblr.com/post/138889047691/and-in-this-panel-well-see-a-closeup-of#notes</ref>}}

{{quotebox|Uh-oh! Lol!
-Chris not getting the reference to his multiple acts of plagarism <ref>http://rosechustory.tumblr.com/post/142996570356/it-took-hearing-the-name-two-times-before-she#notes</ref>}}

==Likes and Following==

Chris mainly subscribes to blogs about [[My Little Pony]].

==External Links==
https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com

==References==
<references/>

{{The Internet}}
[[Category:Websites]]

Talk:Main Page

2017-10-14T23:05:12Z

Camille: /* New Begging Video */

{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates. For other questions, please use the [http://www.cwckiforums.com/ CWCki forum].}}

'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]] [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|2]]
==Make a new Saga?==
Even though Chris has been less active over the less couple of years, he has recently (since early March) been giving infomation about what has been happening over the last couple of years. I think we should call this a new Saga "Revalation" Saga. [[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 3:40, 14 September 2013 (EST)

the new saga is the Black Sonichu DLC saga, i posted a link to chris chan's facebook post in the news page --[[User:Beanmachine91|Beanmachine91]] ([[User talk:Beanmachine91|talk]]) 01:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

==Note==
Flipnote Hatena will be shutting down May 31, 2013. Also chris 2013 article needs updating.

==Did you know..==
Some of the "Did you knows" sound really over-opinionated and A-loggy next to the A-log article of the now.

Ex. "...that Chris is a disgusting human being?", "That Chris cannot dance", I also have a personal gripe with, "...that Chris was born on 24 February, the same day the Nazi party was founded?", as it associates CWC with Nazis. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 10:18, 16 December 2012 (PST)

Did you know "Chris declared his birthday national Christian Love day? He thought this was better than Mexican Flag day which is on his birthday February 24"
[[User:MsAuntieMama|MsAuntieMama]] 10:16 May 2015 (EST)

==ohinternet==
Should we include a da update about ED and ohinternet considering their past relationship? [[Supersheep|Supersheep]] 23:38, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

*Ironically, I vote this for today. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 15:11, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT) This link is dead

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*I personally would have Da Update be first but Clyde insists that the PSN Tracker is more important. Take your complaints to him.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:11, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011

== Remove the PSN tracker ==

Srsly. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:58, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Or put it under the update section. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:41, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

==TOMGIRL.PNG==
May I suggest a recoloring of the hair blonde? --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 09:31, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Liquid Chris Article ==
The whole "MOTHERLAND CALLS!" template has been up on the [[Liquid Chris]] page for a while, even before I became a member here. Has the article been fixed, or is it still in need of refurbishing? -- [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 22:09, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:Why are you asking this here? Try [[Talk:Liquid Chris]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:22, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:: The reason I asked here was because nobody has added anything new the article since March (ignoring a recent edit-revert), and nobody has done anything with the talk page since last September. I was just wondering if this should be the Improvement Project of the Now if it's gone nowhere for a while. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:09, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

== An error in dating? ==

Today's "''This day in Christory''" features [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|a video from February 5th, 2009]], but today is ''June 5th''. Is this intentional? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 10:37, 5 June 2011 (PDT)
*The video was from 5 Feb, but his CChanSonichu account was indeed hacked on 5 June. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:52, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

== Kim ==
Have we pulled a Wallflower on Kim? If not why doesn't she have a page, any information on her other than in passing, emails, phone calls, etc? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 21:45, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

==Just for you==
I while ago I figured out the code for making youtube audio play in the background based on ED's code for it. I just forgot to share it with you. Its a nice touch for user pages, but I wouldn't recommend them for Cwcki articles.

ev:youtube|'''(The Stuff After watch?v=)'''&autoplay=1&loop=1&start=1" height="1" width="1" fposition="left" frame="false"

except add '''{{#''' at the beginning and '''}}''' at the end, and lose the '''(''' ''')''' parenthese

Sorry if its confusing, ask [[User:freecell|freecell]] if you need help, he or she uses it too.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 20:01, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

==No detective needed==
Okay, you don't have to be a fucking detective to tell that [[User:Youdonttellmewhattodo|Youdonttellmewhattodo]], [[User:Nothingyouneedknow|Nothingyouneedknow]], [[User:GodoftheGodsofgod|GodoftheGodsofgod]] are the same fucking person seeing as all three accounts were made four minutes between each and they've been posting stupid shit, complimenting Chris, and blanking pages. It's an idiot, troll, or hell possibly Chris. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 11:34, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
:I don't think they're the same people. And I checked for some of them, they're not Chris. I don't remember specifically though and I'm kind of too lazy to check again. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:53, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
::Ok, sat down and checked those three again. Not Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:58, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

==New videos==
Chris just posted a couple of new videos and from the looks of it, relating to that forum that he's been posting on. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 11:27, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
*Two more videos have gone up. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:38, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
* I just posted the update but there still aren't any pages about the videos. I would but I'm really goddamn tired and I feel like shit. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:41, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
** It's cool, they'll get made eventually, and I can't wait, to be honest, I missed the shinagins that Chris provided in his videos. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:49, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Earthquake ==

Think CWC was affected by the 5.9 earthquake in Virgina at 2PM?--[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 11:17, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:If he was, I'm sure we'll be updated. Until then, there's no way we could know. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:21, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

:Unless a big box of Barb's Salvation Army finds crushed him.--[[User:Shefap|Shefap]] 12:27, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:* There's a website [http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/se/082311a/us/index.html] that will tell you where people in VA are saying they felt shaking. Around where Chris lives, there were reports of little-to-no shaking felt and no damage reported. He probably heard about the earthquake, but they probably felt nothing more than a vibration. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:05, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

== Article of the now. ==

shouldnt the Article of the now be Bob chandler? -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 12:50, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
:Indeed, I think Bob's bio should be article of the now until Chris uploads his next video. Then the article of the now should be changed into [[Chris and death]], as the most important thing about the next vid will be a demonstration of how Chris reacts (if he does react at all) to the death of a parent.
::Done, hope I did it right. -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 14:12, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
::*In the future, please refer discuss the Article of the now on its [[Talk:Article of the now|talk page]].

==Bob CWCki logo==
I found [[:File:BobCWCkiLogo.jpg|this gem]] we used ages ago for Bob's birthday, would it be in poor taste to post it in place of the current logo, for a while? Or perhaps someone could modify it to reflect his passing? I ask because I don't want to horribly offend people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
*I second this, but not for too long. --[[User:MissMeg|Mary Lee Walsh | All hail the dean!]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
*It would have been appropriate for down time, maybe as a 404 message, but now that he's passed on, it is a bit distasteful. It would have been even more offensive if you planned to do this 5 days after his death. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 16:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

== Chris' family tree. ==

We should expand on Chris family lineage, because Barbara's father died in an unusual way.

J.O. WESTON, OF RED OAK IS KILLED
Joseph Otto Weston, 58, a farmer, was killed late Friday when he apparently fell from his horse drawn wagon on a rural road near Red Oak Charlotte County.
Weston, of Red Oak, was hauling wood. Apparently he fell from the wagon and under a rear wheel.
His body was discovered after the driverless horse and wagon turned up at a nearby service station.
Dr. P.H. Winston, of Clarksville, medical examiner, said death was caused by a broken neck.
Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Carrie Winn Weston; five daughters, Mrs. Wilborne Bourne, of Richmond, and Mrs. Edward Carey and Misses Barbara Ann, Mabel and Harriet Weston, of Red Oak; three sons, William S. Weston, with the Navy at Norfolk, and DeRoy Lewis and Curtis Wayne Weston, of Red Oak; three brothers, Alfred Weston, of Chase City, and Daniel and Roy Weston, of Red Oak; one sister, Mrs. Mabel M. Blacklidge of Richmond, and one grandchild.
A funeral service was held at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at Antioch Baptist Church.
(Source: The Charlotte Gazette, Drakes Branch, VA, Thursday, April 14, 1955 Submitted by: Bea. Adams King)

http://genealogytrails.com/vir/charlotte/obits_w.html

This is the same Joesph Otto Weston that in mentioned in that Family tree.

== Edit-hiding ==

What's going on with all the edit-hiding? --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 10:49, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:I try to use the feature sparingly, but basically it's for the protection of users. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 6 November 2011 (PST)

== Stop this ==

The article of now has had bob plastered on it for 2 months, it's getting old so I decided to put an underrated sonichu character onto it and don't whine to me about it being disrespectful to bob, fuck bob! --[[User:cj|cj]]
*Personally, I think Jiggliami can eat a dick. Anyways, if you really felt that we needed a new article, you could have done something that made sense like, oh I don't know, [[28 October 2011]], instead of a character that has no relevance to what is happening in Chris's life at the moment. It's not that you're being disrespectful, it's just that you need to act a little more professionally on this site, even if it is a wiki devoted to an autistic manchild. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 10:31, 10 November 2011 (PST)

== what is this? ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt-gfkWu8Bc&feature=channel_video_title

Apparently this might be chris --[[User:The0range|The0range]]
*One, sign your comments. Two, this person claims they talked to a channel called "HuaYifu" and that this person was Chris. All you would have had to do is looked at HuaYifu's channel and you would have realized this wasn't Chris. This person has NOTHING uploaded on their channel that Chris would have done, never claims to be Chris, and never talks about Sonichu or Rosechu (which would have happened if it was Chris). This is NOT Chris. I'm not even sure how these messages came to be unless HuaYifu is trolling the owner of this video... or they both were in on it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:47, 10 December 2011 (PST)

But why is the uploader of the video so convinced it's him though? It seem so obvious that it's not him that there might be more to it... --[[User:The0range|The0range]]

==Proper usage of words where time is concerned==

I have noticed that there are many pages that refer to "a recent video" or use similar assumptive language with regards to time. We should refrain from this type of language as the cwciki, and those pages, will be around long after the word "recent" fails to apply. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:35, 15 December 2011 (PST)
:I've said exactly the same thing. I change it when I see it, but it seems people take for granted that other people actually have to fix their shit. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 11:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)

== STOP FORCASTING ! ==

Ok i understand the desire to keep every page up to date but STOP FORCASTING! Do not enter anything into the wiki that WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED at a later date. Don't put on barbs page that she has an upcoming court date, because that will have to be changed after that date happens. PLEASE dont make work for yourself and others.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:47, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Actually, I think that one's fine because it's an article that will inevitably have to be updated. The main issue arises on articles like videos, because post-fact people will be paying attention to other things. "Current" articles have to be rewritten all the time. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:52, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Event forecasting is fine on a Wiki when further information is expected within a reasonable timeframe. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:: i understand that if its on an active page then its fine, but when the forcasting is put on other pages it becomes a correctin issue. Its much better to just link to the appropriate pages and not speculate. Let the active pages do the talking while the historic data stays historic. In other words October 28th 2011 is currently the central location for court info. other pages dont need specifics until we know what the outcome is.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:41, 16 December 2011 (PST)

== Current Events ==

There aren't ant current events on the current events page. '''So either we need to get rid of it''', or we need to put 'current events' in our 'current events' so we can have 'current events' when we read the 'current events' -xzibit [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:09, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== Am i the only one who thinks there should be a second 'da update' type thing for significantly less important shit? ==

I'm not saying I demand this to happen, but it seems like it would be more convenient than checking recent changes for something that might possibly be new information. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 20:34, 29 January 2012 (PST)
: While that's an interesting idea... anything that's "new information" is usually in da update. Anything else is usually something small, not confirmed 100%, or almost insignificant. I suppose we could have something small...but it would be getting updated quite a bit. At the moment, I think "recent changes" is probably a lot like another, smaller, da update would be... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:03, 29 January 2012 (PST)

== Birthday Suprise ==

Chris will be turning 30 this year and that is going to have an effect on the wiki. There are places where phrases like "Even now in his late twenties" are used. This type of language is going to become outdated. Words like "twenties" "20s" and specific ages as in "at 28 years old, Chris still lives at home" will all eventually have to be changed. CARE MUST BE TAKEN when writing about time. Remember EVERYTHING is past tense and you have to assume that the reader is reading the information 10 years from now. I have mentioned time before but the whole 'turning 30' thing needs to be addressed separately.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:00, 2 February 2012 (PST)
*here is an example "There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a man that is almost thirty years old and has autism should live at home with his parents, specially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be." - This will need changing. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:16, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:[[Wikipedia:WP:SOFIXIT|So fix it]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:55, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:*Or as we like to say here on the CWCki, [[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT FAGGOT]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:30, 3 February 2012 (PST)
::*i am fixing what i see, just wanted others to be aware.[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:22, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Revised idea ==

Maybe there should be a {{Timeline}} below "da update" on the main page, that would be pretty handy.--[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 12:16, 5 February 2012 (PST)

That sounds like a good idea to me. [[user:poppybrolll|-~Poppybrolll~-]] 9:23, 11 February 2012 (PST)
*Sounds like a good idea to me too... i would suggest letting someone higher up the chain add it though. We just dealt with some front page vandalism (that was kinda funny BTW) but i think its a great idea [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:04, 17 February 2012 (PST)

== This is what chris actually believes ==

I notice this phrase attached to pictures all over the wiki. Some of the pictures are references to Chris believing that he has some sort of chance to get laid. But many are just derogatory and rude. There are times that we KNOW what Chris believes because he tells us but many times the pictures are misleading or speculative. example: the pic on the page [[Caitlin]] is an assumption and has no basis in truth. There are many examples of picture captions being downright rude and defamatory. I think its clear that none of us can stand Chris, but we should be more careful about that coming out in the wiki. The facts please, just the facts...[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:45, 29 February 2012 (PST) oops

: I [[CWCki:Policy#De-memeing the CWCki|concur]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

== Another Quote of the Now Suggestion ==

Now that the details of Chris's trial has been posted, do you think his outburst about having to pay Michael Snyder's medical bills- "That thieving liar doesn't deserve a red cent!"- would be appropriate? Of course, I'm still kind of a newfag here, so ignore this if you want. I just found it amusing. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 02:40, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== Suggested article: Persecution Complex ==

I think we definitely need an article about all the times Christian has claimed to suffer/endured harsh trials in his life. For example, equating pulling weeds once with a Marine carrying the dead body of his friend back, as seen in the Father Call. Said Father Call is chock full of instances of Chris claiming to have suffered to prove his worthiness, in fact. I also don't need to mention all the times he has brought up being handcuffed in school, having his attraction sign removed at college, and getting suspended at college, for that was always frequent. He also grossly exaggerated the actions of the trolls in every interaction with friends, obviously... Even in his first ever YouTube video, he makes sure to claim that he has had a rough life: "I was diagnosed with high-functional autism, and I lived a, uh, somewhat rough life. I've had an abusive babysitter at one time." --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 16:13, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

*: Seconded. Make sure to include the fact that he's got a legitimate reason so see his bullshit as more important than it is. Also there's a page for requesting articles. Now get to work, soldier. [[User:CaveJohnson|CaveJohnson]] 20:33, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

== Confused ==

So, what's the deal? Is this site just an ironic way of trolling him, or what? I heard this was dedicated towards supporting him from outside sources, but looking at the content, I'd say you'd either have to be trolling him using irony and sarcasm, or as stupid as Chris himself. {{unsigned|5thofjulay}}
: We're not for or against him, for most part. There's a bit of snark here and there, sure. We try to show Chris's stuff in his own words. Unfortunately for Chris, his material doesn't make him look very good. This site isn't really a troll site, just another way for Chris to troll himself. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums Gone? ==

Should we mention on the main page that the forum has been deleted from the servers over at forumer? --[[User:Sparklemilhouse|Sparklemilhouse]] 15:41, 8 November 2012 (PST)
: Perhaps, if we can figure out what happened and what the following actions are. Last I checked, the forum staff was looking at their options. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)
: I wonder how much Our Pet Lolcow is chuckling to himself at the loss of our forums. Maybe he thinks we closed it ourselves to comply with his "apology post" on FaceBook; or maybe that one of his Curse-ya-meha-meha blasts actually worked.
:There's a temporary relief forum for the CWCki Forums: http://spergcityzone.forumer.com/index.php [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums gone....again? ==

The most recent forums appear to be gone. Is everything okay, or was it closed due to some of the conflicts between certain users and mods/management? - [[User:I Be Bobby Boulders|I Be Bobby Boulders]] 10:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Can we make the forums ''not'' forumer this time? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Eagerly awaiting the forum's next incarnation. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:47, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Ditto. - [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 15:31, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:We received a Chatzy screencap a while ago that proves that the people we banned planned to TOS the forum because nobody is allowed to have fun if they can't. Don't know if they actually were responsible, but that's the information we have. I didn't save the screencap, but I'm sure someone has it. I'm hoping that we'll have something substantial up within a couple days. We're just waiting on a couple email responses first. And it definitely won't be Forumer. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 17:10, 30 January 2013 (PST)

That was on the first day of the banning, and they settled down, so I doubt they did anything rash. Plus I've been talking to them almost every day, and they dropped it shortly after that day. The thing is that their forum was TOS'd at the same time ours was, so I'm assuming whoever did it reported both forums, and I highly doubt they'd TOS their own forum.--[[User:Someguywithnoname|Someguywithnoname]] 18:08, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:Yeah, this. There was some talk of going after champ's forum after the permaban of several people for trying to have something done about a crime committed by one of the mods, but it was dropped as a bad idea before leaving the brainstorming stage. Whoever TOSed either or both forums may have gotten the idea from such talk (and/or, more likely, simply from the predecessor forum having been TOSed before). [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:They probably nuked both forums after they realized that A. They weren't going to be allowed back into the real one and B. Not very many people were going to defect to theirs. So they employed the Samson option. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 10:40, 31 January 2013 (PST)
::That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately. At least half to two-thirds of the regulars from spergcityzone had "defected" to spergcentral by the time it was TOSed (basically everyone except for those who didn't try to access either forum during the short interval between the TOSings). Why on earth would anyone involved in running spergcentral TOS their own forum when it was pretty much already established as the successor to spergcityzone? If I had to guess I would guess that punchabunch TOSed both forums to try to get them to blame each other for it, given that they went down within 24 hours of one another and given his enthusiastic talk of "forum war". But there isn't really any way of knowing. At any rate, there's probably some troll who wanted to fuck around with both forums. [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:::[MOVED RESPONSE TO RELIEF FORUMS]--[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 13:13, 31 January 2013 (PST)

I'm currently creating a new CWCki Forums which is not under forumer. I'll let you know if it's ready. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 18:42, 30 January 2013 (PST)

It's done! First time creating a forum, so give me some tips and suggestions about it. http://alanpardewcwc.forumms.net/ [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 21:01, 30 January 2013 (PST)

I just checked my email, and brooklyn sent an email to everyone who shared their email on the last board saying that the new permanent board should be up by this weekend/early next week. [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 21:49, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Well, at least we'll have a backup forum in case something happens.[[User:Saney|Saney]] 21:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

The permanent board is coming soon? Great. I'll update the link later when it is up. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:25, 30 January 2013 (PST)

== Photo of rental house ==

Surely the photo of the front of the rental house Charb are staying in should be the photo of the now. EXIF data stripped, of course. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 02:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

* I'm working on it. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Cheers! That house sure looks spooky. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 11:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

== Lego Wishlist ==

Exactly how much is Chris' NEED list worth? What about his WANT list?
At the same time, he's selling items that should have sentimental value to him to pay the bills.
This def needs some looking in to!
--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 05:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
* I decided to take this task on myself. Still weeding my way through ebay to find the lowest prices for each set, but suffice it to say, the tally is HIGH! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 18:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
**The grand total for what Chris is begging for in Legos alone is ~$4800 --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 19:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

== QOTN ==

"The drawing that is being sold on eBay now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork with no original intent of profit."

**This needs to be on the front page because Chris is saying that his drawing he drew to sell online wasn't meant for profit.
These are disparaging statements. One cannot draw something with the intent of selling it and say they didn't intend any personal profit.
I'd put this on the forums, but null can't take jokes.--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 20:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** The total list rounds out to just over to $4800 for the lego sets Chris wants. He no doubt deserves them... lol --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 22:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** Going to. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== PSN Tracker ==

I feel like this is kinda taking up valuable real estate on the front page. Anyone opposed to removing it? I was pretty much against it from day one, it's been on the front page mostly to appease [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] but he's long gone. Not sure what to do with the extra space. I'd say to post his most recent Facebook posts but well, recent events suggest that probably won't be happening. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 09:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

*I'm all for a section on Facebook posts, but, as you said, it's possible we'll be seeing a lot less of those. Either way, the PSN tracker needs to go. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 10:41, 31 December

* I dunno. I always kinda liked it. A constant reminder of how much money he wastes. [[User:Sweet and Savoury|Sweet and Savoury]] ([[User talk:Sweet and Savoury|talk]]) 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== refer Chris as a female with female pronouns ==

==Article of the Now change?==

So since the article about the Gamestop incident is getting old, why not replace it with this recent page about the documentary for Chris Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjnakAlF-s)

== Many MediaFire Links are Broken ==

Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 22:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

== New update, transgender ==

"...(s)he"

I have an issue with this. Hasn't it been decided we shouldn't cater to Chris' whims and call him what HE wishes to be called? It should be "he", indefinitely, I think.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 20:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
*I'm kind of on the fence about this because I'm transgender myself. On one hand, I want to say that she isn't actually transgender, but on the other hand I want to be on the safe side and just refer to her with female pronouns. [[User:Melkor|Melkor]] ([[User talk:Melkor|talk]]) 21:46, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

== Here's a creative suggestion for the 'Da Update' section ==

Put goddamn fucking links to whatever the fucking update's about.

==CWCki Logo==
Hey! I made the CWCki logo back in 2008ish and I'm wondering if you guys wanted an updated version of it--It's pretty old by now.
The concept would be the same (Chris ontop of the Sonichu Ball), just in better quality. Cheers. [[User:Gleefk|Gleefk]] ([[User talk:Gleefk|talk]]) 19:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
:I know I'm responding to this way late, but, yeah, if you have an updated version then I say go for it. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 05:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== So, This Superrocks3 Guy..... ==

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdMsi-rtmbI]

This is John Paglia, aka superrocks3. He is apparently whiteknighting for Chris. I'm debating contributing an article about him. I've viewed the rest of his YouTube account. Either he is trying WAAAAAAAAY too hard to troll or severely autistic. Nothing really noteworthy has happened with this guy in regards to interactions with CWC. CWC liked one of his videos, and that's it so far. Should I get this article going or have I found some shit that actually is too minor for the CWCKI?

* I believe this is too minor for CWCki. There is many people trying to be funny by whiteknighting/trolling Chris, but we don't document them unless they have some actual relation with Chris and unless they have contributed something major to the CWC community (like [[Robert Simmons V]], who actually met Chris, appeared in the comics and contributed to the CWC community by uploading the Church audio). A similar case of someone trying to funny occourred with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BN13HKbck MasterEliteFighter] who "participated" in Chris's "embargos" and got a mention from Chris, but besides that, he is not really that notable to make a page about him. [[User:Helis5|Helis5]] ([[User talk:Helis5|talk]]) 18:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

== Can't edit Sonichu 11 article? ==

I've been trying to add the troll comic to it but whenever I try to edit it I get a blank page. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] ([[User talk:One With The Lulz|talk]]) 02:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

== Replace pmurt with new article ==

The pmurt article is getting real old seeing as it's been up for like a month or ttwo. I recommend replacing it with sonichu #11 to put more emphasis on the financhu crisis. --[[User:Pepper-0|Pepper-0]] ([[User talk:Pepper-0|talk]]) 10/01/17

*Maybe we should wait a bit more, until Pmurt takes office later this month. Chris has been commenting more on him than his finances lately, too. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 10:04, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

==New sighting in local news==
Chris turned up at a student mourning event and they made the whole video about interviewing Chris as if he was just a random student, he even has his fucking sonichu comics on the flowers as a form of self advertisemnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n062B5gurp0 , Should be at least Video of the Now

*Yeah. I'll probably write up an article about it later. Unfortunately, there's not many editors left. I'm usually the one who adds content to the CWCki lately, but I'm a bit burned out from editing, especially with the ongoing server issues making it difficult. I'll probably get stuff updated in a day or two. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== Begging counter ==

For the same reasons as the [[Template:PSNTracker]], mentioned [[Talk:Main_Page#PSN_Tracker_2|here]] and [[Template_talk:PSNTracker|here]], can we remove the Begging Counter template from the middle of the main page and relocate it to the Financhu Crisis Saga pages? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 06:08, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*You might want to consider asking people on Kiwi Farms for their opinions, because there's a shortage of editors here. I'm the one who wrote the begging counter and placed it on the main page, because Chris had been doing a ton of begging and I figured it'd be a good way to keep the Financhu Crisis featured on the main page (and because it was funny to see a counter of the days since he last worked on the comic). I think it's still relevant now, because Chris mostly either begs or works on the comic, and the template directly links to both from the main page. Kinda like Article of the Now, but with statistics. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*Yeah, I agree with Hurtful here. The begging counter should remain on the front page. -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 19:14, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

::How about moving it down a bit then? My man concern is that the Video of the Now is at the very bottom, for example, even though that's probably what most people are looking for after Da Update. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 23:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Alright. Video and Pic of the Now have been at the bottom for a while, though. Here's what the Main Page looked like before the counter - https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=199478 [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:40, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

== Downtime ==

What was up with the recent week-long downtime? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 03:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

== Discontinuing social media collection pages ==

Chris is so active on social media now that it's posing a problem for archiving his posts to the CWCki. There are only about 5 people who actively contribute here, which isn't enough for updating everything.

Collection pages like these are missing posts and the backlog goes back to June:

- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Facebook_posts
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Patreon_posts

A solution could be to discontinue those kinds of pages. The templates at the bottom could be updated to mention that and provide respective links to his FB, Twitter and Patreon if people want to see his posts there.

If something he says is big enough for mentioning in an article, the source link could just directly point to his social media post. Some users have been doing that for recent articles. The risk is that Chris might delete, but that's covered by screencaps at KF / CWCki Club.

A drawback is that his text wouldn't be searchable on the wiki, except as partial quotes. Twitter has a great search program as an alternative, but I dunno about FaceBook or Patreon.

Thoughts? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:44, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
* I don't want to have to comb through the Random Chris Updates threads to find a specific screenshot. I'll put in work to fill in the gaps when I get the chance.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] ([[User talk:MoarLurk|talk]]) 09:00, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*He made 22 tweets yesterday alone. Higher than average, but it's usually 5-10 per day and it adds up over the past few months. It's a lot to import into the wiki. If we don't discontinue, we should just use the social media pages to archive major posts that would be worthy of a thread or being on Da Update (like your updating the FB page on his lovequest posts from today). I think we should rewrite the opening paragraph present on the social media pages to state that they're now for major updates, as opposed to being a complete archive.[[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*Another reason archiving is harder now is there are multiple pages covering his posts (FaceBook, Patreon, Tweets, Tweets for NightStar). Sometimes when Chris posts to a social media platform, content from it gets mirrored to the others. If the post mentions another platform, check that platform's page to see if it's there so you won't go through the trouble of adding in something which is already present. Like, if there's a FaceBook post which refers to Twitter in its timestamp, you can post that content to the Tweets page instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 20:22, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

== Chris's fuckin dildo collection ==

Can anyone please find out if Chris has a dildo collection it would be really appreciated.

* Maybe if you channelled your energy into using the search bar instead of making this dumb post you would know. --[[User:Shekelberg|Shekelberg]]

== Tumblr ==

So it looks like Chris has made a [https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com tumblr]. Should a page be made about it? My tablet doesn't take screenshots so I haven't started one, and I don't really know what all to write about it.

-[[User:GhostofKittyChandler|GhostofKittyChandler]] ([[User talk:GhostofKittyChandler|talk]]) 00:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

*I made the page. It's currently a stub right now, so edit it to your heart's content :)

--[[User:Camille|Camille]] 16:07, 14 October 2017 (PDT)

==New Begging Video==
Chris just made a new begging video poorly disguised as a Patreon announcement. I don't know how to edit the front page, so can someone change the begging counter, sil'vous plaît?

Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojxss2jEaGk

-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 14:52,14 October 2017 (PDT)

Talk:Main Page

2017-10-14T23:04:36Z

Camille: /* New Begging Video */

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==Make a new Saga?==
Even though Chris has been less active over the less couple of years, he has recently (since early March) been giving infomation about what has been happening over the last couple of years. I think we should call this a new Saga "Revalation" Saga. [[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 3:40, 14 September 2013 (EST)

the new saga is the Black Sonichu DLC saga, i posted a link to chris chan's facebook post in the news page --[[User:Beanmachine91|Beanmachine91]] ([[User talk:Beanmachine91|talk]]) 01:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

==Note==
Flipnote Hatena will be shutting down May 31, 2013. Also chris 2013 article needs updating.

==Did you know..==
Some of the "Did you knows" sound really over-opinionated and A-loggy next to the A-log article of the now.

Ex. "...that Chris is a disgusting human being?", "That Chris cannot dance", I also have a personal gripe with, "...that Chris was born on 24 February, the same day the Nazi party was founded?", as it associates CWC with Nazis. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 10:18, 16 December 2012 (PST)

Did you know "Chris declared his birthday national Christian Love day? He thought this was better than Mexican Flag day which is on his birthday February 24"
[[User:MsAuntieMama|MsAuntieMama]] 10:16 May 2015 (EST)

==ohinternet==
Should we include a da update about ED and ohinternet considering their past relationship? [[Supersheep|Supersheep]] 23:38, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

*Ironically, I vote this for today. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 15:11, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT) This link is dead

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*I personally would have Da Update be first but Clyde insists that the PSN Tracker is more important. Take your complaints to him.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:11, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011

== Remove the PSN tracker ==

Srsly. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:58, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Or put it under the update section. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:41, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

==TOMGIRL.PNG==
May I suggest a recoloring of the hair blonde? --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 09:31, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Liquid Chris Article ==
The whole "MOTHERLAND CALLS!" template has been up on the [[Liquid Chris]] page for a while, even before I became a member here. Has the article been fixed, or is it still in need of refurbishing? -- [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 22:09, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:Why are you asking this here? Try [[Talk:Liquid Chris]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:22, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:: The reason I asked here was because nobody has added anything new the article since March (ignoring a recent edit-revert), and nobody has done anything with the talk page since last September. I was just wondering if this should be the Improvement Project of the Now if it's gone nowhere for a while. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:09, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

== An error in dating? ==

Today's "''This day in Christory''" features [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|a video from February 5th, 2009]], but today is ''June 5th''. Is this intentional? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 10:37, 5 June 2011 (PDT)
*The video was from 5 Feb, but his CChanSonichu account was indeed hacked on 5 June. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:52, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

== Kim ==
Have we pulled a Wallflower on Kim? If not why doesn't she have a page, any information on her other than in passing, emails, phone calls, etc? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 21:45, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

==Just for you==
I while ago I figured out the code for making youtube audio play in the background based on ED's code for it. I just forgot to share it with you. Its a nice touch for user pages, but I wouldn't recommend them for Cwcki articles.

ev:youtube|'''(The Stuff After watch?v=)'''&autoplay=1&loop=1&start=1" height="1" width="1" fposition="left" frame="false"

except add '''{{#''' at the beginning and '''}}''' at the end, and lose the '''(''' ''')''' parenthese

Sorry if its confusing, ask [[User:freecell|freecell]] if you need help, he or she uses it too.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 20:01, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

==No detective needed==
Okay, you don't have to be a fucking detective to tell that [[User:Youdonttellmewhattodo|Youdonttellmewhattodo]], [[User:Nothingyouneedknow|Nothingyouneedknow]], [[User:GodoftheGodsofgod|GodoftheGodsofgod]] are the same fucking person seeing as all three accounts were made four minutes between each and they've been posting stupid shit, complimenting Chris, and blanking pages. It's an idiot, troll, or hell possibly Chris. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 11:34, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
:I don't think they're the same people. And I checked for some of them, they're not Chris. I don't remember specifically though and I'm kind of too lazy to check again. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:53, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
::Ok, sat down and checked those three again. Not Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:58, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

==New videos==
Chris just posted a couple of new videos and from the looks of it, relating to that forum that he's been posting on. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 11:27, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
*Two more videos have gone up. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:38, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
* I just posted the update but there still aren't any pages about the videos. I would but I'm really goddamn tired and I feel like shit. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:41, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
** It's cool, they'll get made eventually, and I can't wait, to be honest, I missed the shinagins that Chris provided in his videos. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:49, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Earthquake ==

Think CWC was affected by the 5.9 earthquake in Virgina at 2PM?--[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 11:17, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:If he was, I'm sure we'll be updated. Until then, there's no way we could know. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:21, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

:Unless a big box of Barb's Salvation Army finds crushed him.--[[User:Shefap|Shefap]] 12:27, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:* There's a website [http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/se/082311a/us/index.html] that will tell you where people in VA are saying they felt shaking. Around where Chris lives, there were reports of little-to-no shaking felt and no damage reported. He probably heard about the earthquake, but they probably felt nothing more than a vibration. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:05, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

== Article of the now. ==

shouldnt the Article of the now be Bob chandler? -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 12:50, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
:Indeed, I think Bob's bio should be article of the now until Chris uploads his next video. Then the article of the now should be changed into [[Chris and death]], as the most important thing about the next vid will be a demonstration of how Chris reacts (if he does react at all) to the death of a parent.
::Done, hope I did it right. -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 14:12, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
::*In the future, please refer discuss the Article of the now on its [[Talk:Article of the now|talk page]].

==Bob CWCki logo==
I found [[:File:BobCWCkiLogo.jpg|this gem]] we used ages ago for Bob's birthday, would it be in poor taste to post it in place of the current logo, for a while? Or perhaps someone could modify it to reflect his passing? I ask because I don't want to horribly offend people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
*I second this, but not for too long. --[[User:MissMeg|Mary Lee Walsh | All hail the dean!]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
*It would have been appropriate for down time, maybe as a 404 message, but now that he's passed on, it is a bit distasteful. It would have been even more offensive if you planned to do this 5 days after his death. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 16:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

== Chris' family tree. ==

We should expand on Chris family lineage, because Barbara's father died in an unusual way.

J.O. WESTON, OF RED OAK IS KILLED
Joseph Otto Weston, 58, a farmer, was killed late Friday when he apparently fell from his horse drawn wagon on a rural road near Red Oak Charlotte County.
Weston, of Red Oak, was hauling wood. Apparently he fell from the wagon and under a rear wheel.
His body was discovered after the driverless horse and wagon turned up at a nearby service station.
Dr. P.H. Winston, of Clarksville, medical examiner, said death was caused by a broken neck.
Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Carrie Winn Weston; five daughters, Mrs. Wilborne Bourne, of Richmond, and Mrs. Edward Carey and Misses Barbara Ann, Mabel and Harriet Weston, of Red Oak; three sons, William S. Weston, with the Navy at Norfolk, and DeRoy Lewis and Curtis Wayne Weston, of Red Oak; three brothers, Alfred Weston, of Chase City, and Daniel and Roy Weston, of Red Oak; one sister, Mrs. Mabel M. Blacklidge of Richmond, and one grandchild.
A funeral service was held at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at Antioch Baptist Church.
(Source: The Charlotte Gazette, Drakes Branch, VA, Thursday, April 14, 1955 Submitted by: Bea. Adams King)

http://genealogytrails.com/vir/charlotte/obits_w.html

This is the same Joesph Otto Weston that in mentioned in that Family tree.

== Edit-hiding ==

What's going on with all the edit-hiding? --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 10:49, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:I try to use the feature sparingly, but basically it's for the protection of users. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 6 November 2011 (PST)

== Stop this ==

The article of now has had bob plastered on it for 2 months, it's getting old so I decided to put an underrated sonichu character onto it and don't whine to me about it being disrespectful to bob, fuck bob! --[[User:cj|cj]]
*Personally, I think Jiggliami can eat a dick. Anyways, if you really felt that we needed a new article, you could have done something that made sense like, oh I don't know, [[28 October 2011]], instead of a character that has no relevance to what is happening in Chris's life at the moment. It's not that you're being disrespectful, it's just that you need to act a little more professionally on this site, even if it is a wiki devoted to an autistic manchild. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 10:31, 10 November 2011 (PST)

== what is this? ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt-gfkWu8Bc&feature=channel_video_title

Apparently this might be chris --[[User:The0range|The0range]]
*One, sign your comments. Two, this person claims they talked to a channel called "HuaYifu" and that this person was Chris. All you would have had to do is looked at HuaYifu's channel and you would have realized this wasn't Chris. This person has NOTHING uploaded on their channel that Chris would have done, never claims to be Chris, and never talks about Sonichu or Rosechu (which would have happened if it was Chris). This is NOT Chris. I'm not even sure how these messages came to be unless HuaYifu is trolling the owner of this video... or they both were in on it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:47, 10 December 2011 (PST)

But why is the uploader of the video so convinced it's him though? It seem so obvious that it's not him that there might be more to it... --[[User:The0range|The0range]]

==Proper usage of words where time is concerned==

I have noticed that there are many pages that refer to "a recent video" or use similar assumptive language with regards to time. We should refrain from this type of language as the cwciki, and those pages, will be around long after the word "recent" fails to apply. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:35, 15 December 2011 (PST)
:I've said exactly the same thing. I change it when I see it, but it seems people take for granted that other people actually have to fix their shit. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 11:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)

== STOP FORCASTING ! ==

Ok i understand the desire to keep every page up to date but STOP FORCASTING! Do not enter anything into the wiki that WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED at a later date. Don't put on barbs page that she has an upcoming court date, because that will have to be changed after that date happens. PLEASE dont make work for yourself and others.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:47, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Actually, I think that one's fine because it's an article that will inevitably have to be updated. The main issue arises on articles like videos, because post-fact people will be paying attention to other things. "Current" articles have to be rewritten all the time. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:52, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Event forecasting is fine on a Wiki when further information is expected within a reasonable timeframe. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:: i understand that if its on an active page then its fine, but when the forcasting is put on other pages it becomes a correctin issue. Its much better to just link to the appropriate pages and not speculate. Let the active pages do the talking while the historic data stays historic. In other words October 28th 2011 is currently the central location for court info. other pages dont need specifics until we know what the outcome is.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:41, 16 December 2011 (PST)

== Current Events ==

There aren't ant current events on the current events page. '''So either we need to get rid of it''', or we need to put 'current events' in our 'current events' so we can have 'current events' when we read the 'current events' -xzibit [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:09, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== Am i the only one who thinks there should be a second 'da update' type thing for significantly less important shit? ==

I'm not saying I demand this to happen, but it seems like it would be more convenient than checking recent changes for something that might possibly be new information. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 20:34, 29 January 2012 (PST)
: While that's an interesting idea... anything that's "new information" is usually in da update. Anything else is usually something small, not confirmed 100%, or almost insignificant. I suppose we could have something small...but it would be getting updated quite a bit. At the moment, I think "recent changes" is probably a lot like another, smaller, da update would be... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:03, 29 January 2012 (PST)

== Birthday Suprise ==

Chris will be turning 30 this year and that is going to have an effect on the wiki. There are places where phrases like "Even now in his late twenties" are used. This type of language is going to become outdated. Words like "twenties" "20s" and specific ages as in "at 28 years old, Chris still lives at home" will all eventually have to be changed. CARE MUST BE TAKEN when writing about time. Remember EVERYTHING is past tense and you have to assume that the reader is reading the information 10 years from now. I have mentioned time before but the whole 'turning 30' thing needs to be addressed separately.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:00, 2 February 2012 (PST)
*here is an example "There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a man that is almost thirty years old and has autism should live at home with his parents, specially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be." - This will need changing. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:16, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:[[Wikipedia:WP:SOFIXIT|So fix it]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:55, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:*Or as we like to say here on the CWCki, [[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT FAGGOT]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:30, 3 February 2012 (PST)
::*i am fixing what i see, just wanted others to be aware.[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:22, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Revised idea ==

Maybe there should be a {{Timeline}} below "da update" on the main page, that would be pretty handy.--[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 12:16, 5 February 2012 (PST)

That sounds like a good idea to me. [[user:poppybrolll|-~Poppybrolll~-]] 9:23, 11 February 2012 (PST)
*Sounds like a good idea to me too... i would suggest letting someone higher up the chain add it though. We just dealt with some front page vandalism (that was kinda funny BTW) but i think its a great idea [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:04, 17 February 2012 (PST)

== This is what chris actually believes ==

I notice this phrase attached to pictures all over the wiki. Some of the pictures are references to Chris believing that he has some sort of chance to get laid. But many are just derogatory and rude. There are times that we KNOW what Chris believes because he tells us but many times the pictures are misleading or speculative. example: the pic on the page [[Caitlin]] is an assumption and has no basis in truth. There are many examples of picture captions being downright rude and defamatory. I think its clear that none of us can stand Chris, but we should be more careful about that coming out in the wiki. The facts please, just the facts...[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:45, 29 February 2012 (PST) oops

: I [[CWCki:Policy#De-memeing the CWCki|concur]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

== Another Quote of the Now Suggestion ==

Now that the details of Chris's trial has been posted, do you think his outburst about having to pay Michael Snyder's medical bills- "That thieving liar doesn't deserve a red cent!"- would be appropriate? Of course, I'm still kind of a newfag here, so ignore this if you want. I just found it amusing. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 02:40, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== Suggested article: Persecution Complex ==

I think we definitely need an article about all the times Christian has claimed to suffer/endured harsh trials in his life. For example, equating pulling weeds once with a Marine carrying the dead body of his friend back, as seen in the Father Call. Said Father Call is chock full of instances of Chris claiming to have suffered to prove his worthiness, in fact. I also don't need to mention all the times he has brought up being handcuffed in school, having his attraction sign removed at college, and getting suspended at college, for that was always frequent. He also grossly exaggerated the actions of the trolls in every interaction with friends, obviously... Even in his first ever YouTube video, he makes sure to claim that he has had a rough life: "I was diagnosed with high-functional autism, and I lived a, uh, somewhat rough life. I've had an abusive babysitter at one time." --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 16:13, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

*: Seconded. Make sure to include the fact that he's got a legitimate reason so see his bullshit as more important than it is. Also there's a page for requesting articles. Now get to work, soldier. [[User:CaveJohnson|CaveJohnson]] 20:33, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

== Confused ==

So, what's the deal? Is this site just an ironic way of trolling him, or what? I heard this was dedicated towards supporting him from outside sources, but looking at the content, I'd say you'd either have to be trolling him using irony and sarcasm, or as stupid as Chris himself. {{unsigned|5thofjulay}}
: We're not for or against him, for most part. There's a bit of snark here and there, sure. We try to show Chris's stuff in his own words. Unfortunately for Chris, his material doesn't make him look very good. This site isn't really a troll site, just another way for Chris to troll himself. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums Gone? ==

Should we mention on the main page that the forum has been deleted from the servers over at forumer? --[[User:Sparklemilhouse|Sparklemilhouse]] 15:41, 8 November 2012 (PST)
: Perhaps, if we can figure out what happened and what the following actions are. Last I checked, the forum staff was looking at their options. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)
: I wonder how much Our Pet Lolcow is chuckling to himself at the loss of our forums. Maybe he thinks we closed it ourselves to comply with his "apology post" on FaceBook; or maybe that one of his Curse-ya-meha-meha blasts actually worked.
:There's a temporary relief forum for the CWCki Forums: http://spergcityzone.forumer.com/index.php [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums gone....again? ==

The most recent forums appear to be gone. Is everything okay, or was it closed due to some of the conflicts between certain users and mods/management? - [[User:I Be Bobby Boulders|I Be Bobby Boulders]] 10:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Can we make the forums ''not'' forumer this time? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Eagerly awaiting the forum's next incarnation. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:47, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Ditto. - [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 15:31, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:We received a Chatzy screencap a while ago that proves that the people we banned planned to TOS the forum because nobody is allowed to have fun if they can't. Don't know if they actually were responsible, but that's the information we have. I didn't save the screencap, but I'm sure someone has it. I'm hoping that we'll have something substantial up within a couple days. We're just waiting on a couple email responses first. And it definitely won't be Forumer. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 17:10, 30 January 2013 (PST)

That was on the first day of the banning, and they settled down, so I doubt they did anything rash. Plus I've been talking to them almost every day, and they dropped it shortly after that day. The thing is that their forum was TOS'd at the same time ours was, so I'm assuming whoever did it reported both forums, and I highly doubt they'd TOS their own forum.--[[User:Someguywithnoname|Someguywithnoname]] 18:08, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:Yeah, this. There was some talk of going after champ's forum after the permaban of several people for trying to have something done about a crime committed by one of the mods, but it was dropped as a bad idea before leaving the brainstorming stage. Whoever TOSed either or both forums may have gotten the idea from such talk (and/or, more likely, simply from the predecessor forum having been TOSed before). [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:They probably nuked both forums after they realized that A. They weren't going to be allowed back into the real one and B. Not very many people were going to defect to theirs. So they employed the Samson option. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 10:40, 31 January 2013 (PST)
::That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately. At least half to two-thirds of the regulars from spergcityzone had "defected" to spergcentral by the time it was TOSed (basically everyone except for those who didn't try to access either forum during the short interval between the TOSings). Why on earth would anyone involved in running spergcentral TOS their own forum when it was pretty much already established as the successor to spergcityzone? If I had to guess I would guess that punchabunch TOSed both forums to try to get them to blame each other for it, given that they went down within 24 hours of one another and given his enthusiastic talk of "forum war". But there isn't really any way of knowing. At any rate, there's probably some troll who wanted to fuck around with both forums. [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:::[MOVED RESPONSE TO RELIEF FORUMS]--[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 13:13, 31 January 2013 (PST)

I'm currently creating a new CWCki Forums which is not under forumer. I'll let you know if it's ready. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 18:42, 30 January 2013 (PST)

It's done! First time creating a forum, so give me some tips and suggestions about it. http://alanpardewcwc.forumms.net/ [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 21:01, 30 January 2013 (PST)

I just checked my email, and brooklyn sent an email to everyone who shared their email on the last board saying that the new permanent board should be up by this weekend/early next week. [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 21:49, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Well, at least we'll have a backup forum in case something happens.[[User:Saney|Saney]] 21:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

The permanent board is coming soon? Great. I'll update the link later when it is up. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:25, 30 January 2013 (PST)

== Photo of rental house ==

Surely the photo of the front of the rental house Charb are staying in should be the photo of the now. EXIF data stripped, of course. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 02:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

* I'm working on it. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Cheers! That house sure looks spooky. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 11:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

== Lego Wishlist ==

Exactly how much is Chris' NEED list worth? What about his WANT list?
At the same time, he's selling items that should have sentimental value to him to pay the bills.
This def needs some looking in to!
--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 05:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
* I decided to take this task on myself. Still weeding my way through ebay to find the lowest prices for each set, but suffice it to say, the tally is HIGH! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 18:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
**The grand total for what Chris is begging for in Legos alone is ~$4800 --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 19:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

== QOTN ==

"The drawing that is being sold on eBay now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork with no original intent of profit."

**This needs to be on the front page because Chris is saying that his drawing he drew to sell online wasn't meant for profit.
These are disparaging statements. One cannot draw something with the intent of selling it and say they didn't intend any personal profit.
I'd put this on the forums, but null can't take jokes.--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 20:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** The total list rounds out to just over to $4800 for the lego sets Chris wants. He no doubt deserves them... lol --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 22:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** Going to. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== PSN Tracker ==

I feel like this is kinda taking up valuable real estate on the front page. Anyone opposed to removing it? I was pretty much against it from day one, it's been on the front page mostly to appease [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] but he's long gone. Not sure what to do with the extra space. I'd say to post his most recent Facebook posts but well, recent events suggest that probably won't be happening. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 09:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

*I'm all for a section on Facebook posts, but, as you said, it's possible we'll be seeing a lot less of those. Either way, the PSN tracker needs to go. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 10:41, 31 December

* I dunno. I always kinda liked it. A constant reminder of how much money he wastes. [[User:Sweet and Savoury|Sweet and Savoury]] ([[User talk:Sweet and Savoury|talk]]) 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== refer Chris as a female with female pronouns ==

==Article of the Now change?==

So since the article about the Gamestop incident is getting old, why not replace it with this recent page about the documentary for Chris Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjnakAlF-s)

== Many MediaFire Links are Broken ==

Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 22:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

== New update, transgender ==

"...(s)he"

I have an issue with this. Hasn't it been decided we shouldn't cater to Chris' whims and call him what HE wishes to be called? It should be "he", indefinitely, I think.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 20:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
*I'm kind of on the fence about this because I'm transgender myself. On one hand, I want to say that she isn't actually transgender, but on the other hand I want to be on the safe side and just refer to her with female pronouns. [[User:Melkor|Melkor]] ([[User talk:Melkor|talk]]) 21:46, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

== Here's a creative suggestion for the 'Da Update' section ==

Put goddamn fucking links to whatever the fucking update's about.

==CWCki Logo==
Hey! I made the CWCki logo back in 2008ish and I'm wondering if you guys wanted an updated version of it--It's pretty old by now.
The concept would be the same (Chris ontop of the Sonichu Ball), just in better quality. Cheers. [[User:Gleefk|Gleefk]] ([[User talk:Gleefk|talk]]) 19:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
:I know I'm responding to this way late, but, yeah, if you have an updated version then I say go for it. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 05:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== So, This Superrocks3 Guy..... ==

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdMsi-rtmbI]

This is John Paglia, aka superrocks3. He is apparently whiteknighting for Chris. I'm debating contributing an article about him. I've viewed the rest of his YouTube account. Either he is trying WAAAAAAAAY too hard to troll or severely autistic. Nothing really noteworthy has happened with this guy in regards to interactions with CWC. CWC liked one of his videos, and that's it so far. Should I get this article going or have I found some shit that actually is too minor for the CWCKI?

* I believe this is too minor for CWCki. There is many people trying to be funny by whiteknighting/trolling Chris, but we don't document them unless they have some actual relation with Chris and unless they have contributed something major to the CWC community (like [[Robert Simmons V]], who actually met Chris, appeared in the comics and contributed to the CWC community by uploading the Church audio). A similar case of someone trying to funny occourred with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BN13HKbck MasterEliteFighter] who "participated" in Chris's "embargos" and got a mention from Chris, but besides that, he is not really that notable to make a page about him. [[User:Helis5|Helis5]] ([[User talk:Helis5|talk]]) 18:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

== Can't edit Sonichu 11 article? ==

I've been trying to add the troll comic to it but whenever I try to edit it I get a blank page. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] ([[User talk:One With The Lulz|talk]]) 02:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

== Replace pmurt with new article ==

The pmurt article is getting real old seeing as it's been up for like a month or ttwo. I recommend replacing it with sonichu #11 to put more emphasis on the financhu crisis. --[[User:Pepper-0|Pepper-0]] ([[User talk:Pepper-0|talk]]) 10/01/17

*Maybe we should wait a bit more, until Pmurt takes office later this month. Chris has been commenting more on him than his finances lately, too. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 10:04, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

==New sighting in local news==
Chris turned up at a student mourning event and they made the whole video about interviewing Chris as if he was just a random student, he even has his fucking sonichu comics on the flowers as a form of self advertisemnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n062B5gurp0 , Should be at least Video of the Now

*Yeah. I'll probably write up an article about it later. Unfortunately, there's not many editors left. I'm usually the one who adds content to the CWCki lately, but I'm a bit burned out from editing, especially with the ongoing server issues making it difficult. I'll probably get stuff updated in a day or two. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== Begging counter ==

For the same reasons as the [[Template:PSNTracker]], mentioned [[Talk:Main_Page#PSN_Tracker_2|here]] and [[Template_talk:PSNTracker|here]], can we remove the Begging Counter template from the middle of the main page and relocate it to the Financhu Crisis Saga pages? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 06:08, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*You might want to consider asking people on Kiwi Farms for their opinions, because there's a shortage of editors here. I'm the one who wrote the begging counter and placed it on the main page, because Chris had been doing a ton of begging and I figured it'd be a good way to keep the Financhu Crisis featured on the main page (and because it was funny to see a counter of the days since he last worked on the comic). I think it's still relevant now, because Chris mostly either begs or works on the comic, and the template directly links to both from the main page. Kinda like Article of the Now, but with statistics. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*Yeah, I agree with Hurtful here. The begging counter should remain on the front page. -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 19:14, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

::How about moving it down a bit then? My man concern is that the Video of the Now is at the very bottom, for example, even though that's probably what most people are looking for after Da Update. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 23:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Alright. Video and Pic of the Now have been at the bottom for a while, though. Here's what the Main Page looked like before the counter - https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=199478 [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:40, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

== Downtime ==

What was up with the recent week-long downtime? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 03:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

== Discontinuing social media collection pages ==

Chris is so active on social media now that it's posing a problem for archiving his posts to the CWCki. There are only about 5 people who actively contribute here, which isn't enough for updating everything.

Collection pages like these are missing posts and the backlog goes back to June:

- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Facebook_posts
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Patreon_posts

A solution could be to discontinue those kinds of pages. The templates at the bottom could be updated to mention that and provide respective links to his FB, Twitter and Patreon if people want to see his posts there.

If something he says is big enough for mentioning in an article, the source link could just directly point to his social media post. Some users have been doing that for recent articles. The risk is that Chris might delete, but that's covered by screencaps at KF / CWCki Club.

A drawback is that his text wouldn't be searchable on the wiki, except as partial quotes. Twitter has a great search program as an alternative, but I dunno about FaceBook or Patreon.

Thoughts? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:44, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
* I don't want to have to comb through the Random Chris Updates threads to find a specific screenshot. I'll put in work to fill in the gaps when I get the chance.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] ([[User talk:MoarLurk|talk]]) 09:00, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*He made 22 tweets yesterday alone. Higher than average, but it's usually 5-10 per day and it adds up over the past few months. It's a lot to import into the wiki. If we don't discontinue, we should just use the social media pages to archive major posts that would be worthy of a thread or being on Da Update (like your updating the FB page on his lovequest posts from today). I think we should rewrite the opening paragraph present on the social media pages to state that they're now for major updates, as opposed to being a complete archive.[[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*Another reason archiving is harder now is there are multiple pages covering his posts (FaceBook, Patreon, Tweets, Tweets for NightStar). Sometimes when Chris posts to a social media platform, content from it gets mirrored to the others. If the post mentions another platform, check that platform's page to see if it's there so you won't go through the trouble of adding in something which is already present. Like, if there's a FaceBook post which refers to Twitter in its timestamp, you can post that content to the Tweets page instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 20:22, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

== Chris's fuckin dildo collection ==

Can anyone please find out if Chris has a dildo collection it would be really appreciated.

* Maybe if you channelled your energy into using the search bar instead of making this dumb post you would know. --[[User:Shekelberg|Shekelberg]]

== Tumblr ==

So it looks like Chris has made a [https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com tumblr]. Should a page be made about it? My tablet doesn't take screenshots so I haven't started one, and I don't really know what all to write about it.

-[[User:GhostofKittyChandler|GhostofKittyChandler]] ([[User talk:GhostofKittyChandler|talk]]) 00:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

*I made the page. It's currently a stub right now, so edit it to your heart's content :)

--[[User:Camille|Camille]] 16:07, 14 October 2017 (PDT)

==New Begging Video==
Chris just made a new begging video poorly disguised as a Patreon announcement. I don't know how to edit the front page, so can someone change the begging counter, sil'vous plaît?
Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojxss2jEaGk

-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 14:52,14 October 2017 (PDT)

Tumblr

2017-10-14T23:03:37Z

Camille:

{{Stub}}

Christine owns a Tumblr account. So far, most of her posts consist of Patreon announcements.

==Gallery==

==External Links==
https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com

{{The Internet}}
[[Category:Websites]]

Talk:Main Page

2017-10-14T23:00:15Z

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==Make a new Saga?==
Even though Chris has been less active over the less couple of years, he has recently (since early March) been giving infomation about what has been happening over the last couple of years. I think we should call this a new Saga "Revalation" Saga. [[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 3:40, 14 September 2013 (EST)

the new saga is the Black Sonichu DLC saga, i posted a link to chris chan's facebook post in the news page --[[User:Beanmachine91|Beanmachine91]] ([[User talk:Beanmachine91|talk]]) 01:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

==Note==
Flipnote Hatena will be shutting down May 31, 2013. Also chris 2013 article needs updating.

==Did you know..==
Some of the "Did you knows" sound really over-opinionated and A-loggy next to the A-log article of the now.

Ex. "...that Chris is a disgusting human being?", "That Chris cannot dance", I also have a personal gripe with, "...that Chris was born on 24 February, the same day the Nazi party was founded?", as it associates CWC with Nazis. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 10:18, 16 December 2012 (PST)

Did you know "Chris declared his birthday national Christian Love day? He thought this was better than Mexican Flag day which is on his birthday February 24"
[[User:MsAuntieMama|MsAuntieMama]] 10:16 May 2015 (EST)

==ohinternet==
Should we include a da update about ED and ohinternet considering their past relationship? [[Supersheep|Supersheep]] 23:38, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

*Ironically, I vote this for today. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 15:11, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT) This link is dead

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*I personally would have Da Update be first but Clyde insists that the PSN Tracker is more important. Take your complaints to him.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:11, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011

== Remove the PSN tracker ==

Srsly. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:58, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Or put it under the update section. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:41, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

==TOMGIRL.PNG==
May I suggest a recoloring of the hair blonde? --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 09:31, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Liquid Chris Article ==
The whole "MOTHERLAND CALLS!" template has been up on the [[Liquid Chris]] page for a while, even before I became a member here. Has the article been fixed, or is it still in need of refurbishing? -- [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 22:09, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:Why are you asking this here? Try [[Talk:Liquid Chris]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:22, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:: The reason I asked here was because nobody has added anything new the article since March (ignoring a recent edit-revert), and nobody has done anything with the talk page since last September. I was just wondering if this should be the Improvement Project of the Now if it's gone nowhere for a while. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:09, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

== An error in dating? ==

Today's "''This day in Christory''" features [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|a video from February 5th, 2009]], but today is ''June 5th''. Is this intentional? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 10:37, 5 June 2011 (PDT)
*The video was from 5 Feb, but his CChanSonichu account was indeed hacked on 5 June. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:52, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

== Kim ==
Have we pulled a Wallflower on Kim? If not why doesn't she have a page, any information on her other than in passing, emails, phone calls, etc? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 21:45, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

==Just for you==
I while ago I figured out the code for making youtube audio play in the background based on ED's code for it. I just forgot to share it with you. Its a nice touch for user pages, but I wouldn't recommend them for Cwcki articles.

ev:youtube|'''(The Stuff After watch?v=)'''&autoplay=1&loop=1&start=1" height="1" width="1" fposition="left" frame="false"

except add '''{{#''' at the beginning and '''}}''' at the end, and lose the '''(''' ''')''' parenthese

Sorry if its confusing, ask [[User:freecell|freecell]] if you need help, he or she uses it too.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 20:01, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

==No detective needed==
Okay, you don't have to be a fucking detective to tell that [[User:Youdonttellmewhattodo|Youdonttellmewhattodo]], [[User:Nothingyouneedknow|Nothingyouneedknow]], [[User:GodoftheGodsofgod|GodoftheGodsofgod]] are the same fucking person seeing as all three accounts were made four minutes between each and they've been posting stupid shit, complimenting Chris, and blanking pages. It's an idiot, troll, or hell possibly Chris. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 11:34, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
:I don't think they're the same people. And I checked for some of them, they're not Chris. I don't remember specifically though and I'm kind of too lazy to check again. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:53, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
::Ok, sat down and checked those three again. Not Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:58, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

==New videos==
Chris just posted a couple of new videos and from the looks of it, relating to that forum that he's been posting on. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 11:27, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
*Two more videos have gone up. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:38, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
* I just posted the update but there still aren't any pages about the videos. I would but I'm really goddamn tired and I feel like shit. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:41, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
** It's cool, they'll get made eventually, and I can't wait, to be honest, I missed the shinagins that Chris provided in his videos. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:49, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Earthquake ==

Think CWC was affected by the 5.9 earthquake in Virgina at 2PM?--[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 11:17, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:If he was, I'm sure we'll be updated. Until then, there's no way we could know. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:21, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

:Unless a big box of Barb's Salvation Army finds crushed him.--[[User:Shefap|Shefap]] 12:27, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:* There's a website [http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/se/082311a/us/index.html] that will tell you where people in VA are saying they felt shaking. Around where Chris lives, there were reports of little-to-no shaking felt and no damage reported. He probably heard about the earthquake, but they probably felt nothing more than a vibration. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:05, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

== Article of the now. ==

shouldnt the Article of the now be Bob chandler? -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 12:50, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
:Indeed, I think Bob's bio should be article of the now until Chris uploads his next video. Then the article of the now should be changed into [[Chris and death]], as the most important thing about the next vid will be a demonstration of how Chris reacts (if he does react at all) to the death of a parent.
::Done, hope I did it right. -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 14:12, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
::*In the future, please refer discuss the Article of the now on its [[Talk:Article of the now|talk page]].

==Bob CWCki logo==
I found [[:File:BobCWCkiLogo.jpg|this gem]] we used ages ago for Bob's birthday, would it be in poor taste to post it in place of the current logo, for a while? Or perhaps someone could modify it to reflect his passing? I ask because I don't want to horribly offend people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
*I second this, but not for too long. --[[User:MissMeg|Mary Lee Walsh | All hail the dean!]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
*It would have been appropriate for down time, maybe as a 404 message, but now that he's passed on, it is a bit distasteful. It would have been even more offensive if you planned to do this 5 days after his death. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 16:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

== Chris' family tree. ==

We should expand on Chris family lineage, because Barbara's father died in an unusual way.

J.O. WESTON, OF RED OAK IS KILLED
Joseph Otto Weston, 58, a farmer, was killed late Friday when he apparently fell from his horse drawn wagon on a rural road near Red Oak Charlotte County.
Weston, of Red Oak, was hauling wood. Apparently he fell from the wagon and under a rear wheel.
His body was discovered after the driverless horse and wagon turned up at a nearby service station.
Dr. P.H. Winston, of Clarksville, medical examiner, said death was caused by a broken neck.
Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Carrie Winn Weston; five daughters, Mrs. Wilborne Bourne, of Richmond, and Mrs. Edward Carey and Misses Barbara Ann, Mabel and Harriet Weston, of Red Oak; three sons, William S. Weston, with the Navy at Norfolk, and DeRoy Lewis and Curtis Wayne Weston, of Red Oak; three brothers, Alfred Weston, of Chase City, and Daniel and Roy Weston, of Red Oak; one sister, Mrs. Mabel M. Blacklidge of Richmond, and one grandchild.
A funeral service was held at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at Antioch Baptist Church.
(Source: The Charlotte Gazette, Drakes Branch, VA, Thursday, April 14, 1955 Submitted by: Bea. Adams King)

http://genealogytrails.com/vir/charlotte/obits_w.html

This is the same Joesph Otto Weston that in mentioned in that Family tree.

== Edit-hiding ==

What's going on with all the edit-hiding? --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 10:49, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:I try to use the feature sparingly, but basically it's for the protection of users. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 6 November 2011 (PST)

== Stop this ==

The article of now has had bob plastered on it for 2 months, it's getting old so I decided to put an underrated sonichu character onto it and don't whine to me about it being disrespectful to bob, fuck bob! --[[User:cj|cj]]
*Personally, I think Jiggliami can eat a dick. Anyways, if you really felt that we needed a new article, you could have done something that made sense like, oh I don't know, [[28 October 2011]], instead of a character that has no relevance to what is happening in Chris's life at the moment. It's not that you're being disrespectful, it's just that you need to act a little more professionally on this site, even if it is a wiki devoted to an autistic manchild. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 10:31, 10 November 2011 (PST)

== what is this? ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt-gfkWu8Bc&feature=channel_video_title

Apparently this might be chris --[[User:The0range|The0range]]
*One, sign your comments. Two, this person claims they talked to a channel called "HuaYifu" and that this person was Chris. All you would have had to do is looked at HuaYifu's channel and you would have realized this wasn't Chris. This person has NOTHING uploaded on their channel that Chris would have done, never claims to be Chris, and never talks about Sonichu or Rosechu (which would have happened if it was Chris). This is NOT Chris. I'm not even sure how these messages came to be unless HuaYifu is trolling the owner of this video... or they both were in on it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:47, 10 December 2011 (PST)

But why is the uploader of the video so convinced it's him though? It seem so obvious that it's not him that there might be more to it... --[[User:The0range|The0range]]

==Proper usage of words where time is concerned==

I have noticed that there are many pages that refer to "a recent video" or use similar assumptive language with regards to time. We should refrain from this type of language as the cwciki, and those pages, will be around long after the word "recent" fails to apply. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:35, 15 December 2011 (PST)
:I've said exactly the same thing. I change it when I see it, but it seems people take for granted that other people actually have to fix their shit. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 11:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)

== STOP FORCASTING ! ==

Ok i understand the desire to keep every page up to date but STOP FORCASTING! Do not enter anything into the wiki that WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED at a later date. Don't put on barbs page that she has an upcoming court date, because that will have to be changed after that date happens. PLEASE dont make work for yourself and others.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:47, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Actually, I think that one's fine because it's an article that will inevitably have to be updated. The main issue arises on articles like videos, because post-fact people will be paying attention to other things. "Current" articles have to be rewritten all the time. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:52, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Event forecasting is fine on a Wiki when further information is expected within a reasonable timeframe. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:: i understand that if its on an active page then its fine, but when the forcasting is put on other pages it becomes a correctin issue. Its much better to just link to the appropriate pages and not speculate. Let the active pages do the talking while the historic data stays historic. In other words October 28th 2011 is currently the central location for court info. other pages dont need specifics until we know what the outcome is.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:41, 16 December 2011 (PST)

== Current Events ==

There aren't ant current events on the current events page. '''So either we need to get rid of it''', or we need to put 'current events' in our 'current events' so we can have 'current events' when we read the 'current events' -xzibit [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:09, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== Am i the only one who thinks there should be a second 'da update' type thing for significantly less important shit? ==

I'm not saying I demand this to happen, but it seems like it would be more convenient than checking recent changes for something that might possibly be new information. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 20:34, 29 January 2012 (PST)
: While that's an interesting idea... anything that's "new information" is usually in da update. Anything else is usually something small, not confirmed 100%, or almost insignificant. I suppose we could have something small...but it would be getting updated quite a bit. At the moment, I think "recent changes" is probably a lot like another, smaller, da update would be... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:03, 29 January 2012 (PST)

== Birthday Suprise ==

Chris will be turning 30 this year and that is going to have an effect on the wiki. There are places where phrases like "Even now in his late twenties" are used. This type of language is going to become outdated. Words like "twenties" "20s" and specific ages as in "at 28 years old, Chris still lives at home" will all eventually have to be changed. CARE MUST BE TAKEN when writing about time. Remember EVERYTHING is past tense and you have to assume that the reader is reading the information 10 years from now. I have mentioned time before but the whole 'turning 30' thing needs to be addressed separately.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:00, 2 February 2012 (PST)
*here is an example "There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a man that is almost thirty years old and has autism should live at home with his parents, specially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be." - This will need changing. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:16, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:[[Wikipedia:WP:SOFIXIT|So fix it]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:55, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:*Or as we like to say here on the CWCki, [[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT FAGGOT]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:30, 3 February 2012 (PST)
::*i am fixing what i see, just wanted others to be aware.[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:22, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Revised idea ==

Maybe there should be a {{Timeline}} below "da update" on the main page, that would be pretty handy.--[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 12:16, 5 February 2012 (PST)

That sounds like a good idea to me. [[user:poppybrolll|-~Poppybrolll~-]] 9:23, 11 February 2012 (PST)
*Sounds like a good idea to me too... i would suggest letting someone higher up the chain add it though. We just dealt with some front page vandalism (that was kinda funny BTW) but i think its a great idea [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:04, 17 February 2012 (PST)

== This is what chris actually believes ==

I notice this phrase attached to pictures all over the wiki. Some of the pictures are references to Chris believing that he has some sort of chance to get laid. But many are just derogatory and rude. There are times that we KNOW what Chris believes because he tells us but many times the pictures are misleading or speculative. example: the pic on the page [[Caitlin]] is an assumption and has no basis in truth. There are many examples of picture captions being downright rude and defamatory. I think its clear that none of us can stand Chris, but we should be more careful about that coming out in the wiki. The facts please, just the facts...[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:45, 29 February 2012 (PST) oops

: I [[CWCki:Policy#De-memeing the CWCki|concur]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

== Another Quote of the Now Suggestion ==

Now that the details of Chris's trial has been posted, do you think his outburst about having to pay Michael Snyder's medical bills- "That thieving liar doesn't deserve a red cent!"- would be appropriate? Of course, I'm still kind of a newfag here, so ignore this if you want. I just found it amusing. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 02:40, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== Suggested article: Persecution Complex ==

I think we definitely need an article about all the times Christian has claimed to suffer/endured harsh trials in his life. For example, equating pulling weeds once with a Marine carrying the dead body of his friend back, as seen in the Father Call. Said Father Call is chock full of instances of Chris claiming to have suffered to prove his worthiness, in fact. I also don't need to mention all the times he has brought up being handcuffed in school, having his attraction sign removed at college, and getting suspended at college, for that was always frequent. He also grossly exaggerated the actions of the trolls in every interaction with friends, obviously... Even in his first ever YouTube video, he makes sure to claim that he has had a rough life: "I was diagnosed with high-functional autism, and I lived a, uh, somewhat rough life. I've had an abusive babysitter at one time." --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 16:13, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

*: Seconded. Make sure to include the fact that he's got a legitimate reason so see his bullshit as more important than it is. Also there's a page for requesting articles. Now get to work, soldier. [[User:CaveJohnson|CaveJohnson]] 20:33, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

== Confused ==

So, what's the deal? Is this site just an ironic way of trolling him, or what? I heard this was dedicated towards supporting him from outside sources, but looking at the content, I'd say you'd either have to be trolling him using irony and sarcasm, or as stupid as Chris himself. {{unsigned|5thofjulay}}
: We're not for or against him, for most part. There's a bit of snark here and there, sure. We try to show Chris's stuff in his own words. Unfortunately for Chris, his material doesn't make him look very good. This site isn't really a troll site, just another way for Chris to troll himself. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums Gone? ==

Should we mention on the main page that the forum has been deleted from the servers over at forumer? --[[User:Sparklemilhouse|Sparklemilhouse]] 15:41, 8 November 2012 (PST)
: Perhaps, if we can figure out what happened and what the following actions are. Last I checked, the forum staff was looking at their options. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)
: I wonder how much Our Pet Lolcow is chuckling to himself at the loss of our forums. Maybe he thinks we closed it ourselves to comply with his "apology post" on FaceBook; or maybe that one of his Curse-ya-meha-meha blasts actually worked.
:There's a temporary relief forum for the CWCki Forums: http://spergcityzone.forumer.com/index.php [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums gone....again? ==

The most recent forums appear to be gone. Is everything okay, or was it closed due to some of the conflicts between certain users and mods/management? - [[User:I Be Bobby Boulders|I Be Bobby Boulders]] 10:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Can we make the forums ''not'' forumer this time? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Eagerly awaiting the forum's next incarnation. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:47, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Ditto. - [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 15:31, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:We received a Chatzy screencap a while ago that proves that the people we banned planned to TOS the forum because nobody is allowed to have fun if they can't. Don't know if they actually were responsible, but that's the information we have. I didn't save the screencap, but I'm sure someone has it. I'm hoping that we'll have something substantial up within a couple days. We're just waiting on a couple email responses first. And it definitely won't be Forumer. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 17:10, 30 January 2013 (PST)

That was on the first day of the banning, and they settled down, so I doubt they did anything rash. Plus I've been talking to them almost every day, and they dropped it shortly after that day. The thing is that their forum was TOS'd at the same time ours was, so I'm assuming whoever did it reported both forums, and I highly doubt they'd TOS their own forum.--[[User:Someguywithnoname|Someguywithnoname]] 18:08, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:Yeah, this. There was some talk of going after champ's forum after the permaban of several people for trying to have something done about a crime committed by one of the mods, but it was dropped as a bad idea before leaving the brainstorming stage. Whoever TOSed either or both forums may have gotten the idea from such talk (and/or, more likely, simply from the predecessor forum having been TOSed before). [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:They probably nuked both forums after they realized that A. They weren't going to be allowed back into the real one and B. Not very many people were going to defect to theirs. So they employed the Samson option. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 10:40, 31 January 2013 (PST)
::That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately. At least half to two-thirds of the regulars from spergcityzone had "defected" to spergcentral by the time it was TOSed (basically everyone except for those who didn't try to access either forum during the short interval between the TOSings). Why on earth would anyone involved in running spergcentral TOS their own forum when it was pretty much already established as the successor to spergcityzone? If I had to guess I would guess that punchabunch TOSed both forums to try to get them to blame each other for it, given that they went down within 24 hours of one another and given his enthusiastic talk of "forum war". But there isn't really any way of knowing. At any rate, there's probably some troll who wanted to fuck around with both forums. [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:::[MOVED RESPONSE TO RELIEF FORUMS]--[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 13:13, 31 January 2013 (PST)

I'm currently creating a new CWCki Forums which is not under forumer. I'll let you know if it's ready. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 18:42, 30 January 2013 (PST)

It's done! First time creating a forum, so give me some tips and suggestions about it. http://alanpardewcwc.forumms.net/ [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 21:01, 30 January 2013 (PST)

I just checked my email, and brooklyn sent an email to everyone who shared their email on the last board saying that the new permanent board should be up by this weekend/early next week. [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 21:49, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Well, at least we'll have a backup forum in case something happens.[[User:Saney|Saney]] 21:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

The permanent board is coming soon? Great. I'll update the link later when it is up. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:25, 30 January 2013 (PST)

== Photo of rental house ==

Surely the photo of the front of the rental house Charb are staying in should be the photo of the now. EXIF data stripped, of course. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 02:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

* I'm working on it. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Cheers! That house sure looks spooky. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 11:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

== Lego Wishlist ==

Exactly how much is Chris' NEED list worth? What about his WANT list?
At the same time, he's selling items that should have sentimental value to him to pay the bills.
This def needs some looking in to!
--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 05:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
* I decided to take this task on myself. Still weeding my way through ebay to find the lowest prices for each set, but suffice it to say, the tally is HIGH! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 18:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
**The grand total for what Chris is begging for in Legos alone is ~$4800 --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 19:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

== QOTN ==

"The drawing that is being sold on eBay now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork with no original intent of profit."

**This needs to be on the front page because Chris is saying that his drawing he drew to sell online wasn't meant for profit.
These are disparaging statements. One cannot draw something with the intent of selling it and say they didn't intend any personal profit.
I'd put this on the forums, but null can't take jokes.--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 20:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** The total list rounds out to just over to $4800 for the lego sets Chris wants. He no doubt deserves them... lol --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 22:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** Going to. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== PSN Tracker ==

I feel like this is kinda taking up valuable real estate on the front page. Anyone opposed to removing it? I was pretty much against it from day one, it's been on the front page mostly to appease [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] but he's long gone. Not sure what to do with the extra space. I'd say to post his most recent Facebook posts but well, recent events suggest that probably won't be happening. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 09:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

*I'm all for a section on Facebook posts, but, as you said, it's possible we'll be seeing a lot less of those. Either way, the PSN tracker needs to go. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 10:41, 31 December

* I dunno. I always kinda liked it. A constant reminder of how much money he wastes. [[User:Sweet and Savoury|Sweet and Savoury]] ([[User talk:Sweet and Savoury|talk]]) 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== refer Chris as a female with female pronouns ==

==Article of the Now change?==

So since the article about the Gamestop incident is getting old, why not replace it with this recent page about the documentary for Chris Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjnakAlF-s)

== Many MediaFire Links are Broken ==

Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 22:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

== New update, transgender ==

"...(s)he"

I have an issue with this. Hasn't it been decided we shouldn't cater to Chris' whims and call him what HE wishes to be called? It should be "he", indefinitely, I think.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 20:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
*I'm kind of on the fence about this because I'm transgender myself. On one hand, I want to say that she isn't actually transgender, but on the other hand I want to be on the safe side and just refer to her with female pronouns. [[User:Melkor|Melkor]] ([[User talk:Melkor|talk]]) 21:46, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

== Here's a creative suggestion for the 'Da Update' section ==

Put goddamn fucking links to whatever the fucking update's about.

==CWCki Logo==
Hey! I made the CWCki logo back in 2008ish and I'm wondering if you guys wanted an updated version of it--It's pretty old by now.
The concept would be the same (Chris ontop of the Sonichu Ball), just in better quality. Cheers. [[User:Gleefk|Gleefk]] ([[User talk:Gleefk|talk]]) 19:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
:I know I'm responding to this way late, but, yeah, if you have an updated version then I say go for it. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 05:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== So, This Superrocks3 Guy..... ==

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdMsi-rtmbI]

This is John Paglia, aka superrocks3. He is apparently whiteknighting for Chris. I'm debating contributing an article about him. I've viewed the rest of his YouTube account. Either he is trying WAAAAAAAAY too hard to troll or severely autistic. Nothing really noteworthy has happened with this guy in regards to interactions with CWC. CWC liked one of his videos, and that's it so far. Should I get this article going or have I found some shit that actually is too minor for the CWCKI?

* I believe this is too minor for CWCki. There is many people trying to be funny by whiteknighting/trolling Chris, but we don't document them unless they have some actual relation with Chris and unless they have contributed something major to the CWC community (like [[Robert Simmons V]], who actually met Chris, appeared in the comics and contributed to the CWC community by uploading the Church audio). A similar case of someone trying to funny occourred with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BN13HKbck MasterEliteFighter] who "participated" in Chris's "embargos" and got a mention from Chris, but besides that, he is not really that notable to make a page about him. [[User:Helis5|Helis5]] ([[User talk:Helis5|talk]]) 18:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

== Can't edit Sonichu 11 article? ==

I've been trying to add the troll comic to it but whenever I try to edit it I get a blank page. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] ([[User talk:One With The Lulz|talk]]) 02:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

== Replace pmurt with new article ==

The pmurt article is getting real old seeing as it's been up for like a month or ttwo. I recommend replacing it with sonichu #11 to put more emphasis on the financhu crisis. --[[User:Pepper-0|Pepper-0]] ([[User talk:Pepper-0|talk]]) 10/01/17

*Maybe we should wait a bit more, until Pmurt takes office later this month. Chris has been commenting more on him than his finances lately, too. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 10:04, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

==New sighting in local news==
Chris turned up at a student mourning event and they made the whole video about interviewing Chris as if he was just a random student, he even has his fucking sonichu comics on the flowers as a form of self advertisemnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n062B5gurp0 , Should be at least Video of the Now

*Yeah. I'll probably write up an article about it later. Unfortunately, there's not many editors left. I'm usually the one who adds content to the CWCki lately, but I'm a bit burned out from editing, especially with the ongoing server issues making it difficult. I'll probably get stuff updated in a day or two. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== Begging counter ==

For the same reasons as the [[Template:PSNTracker]], mentioned [[Talk:Main_Page#PSN_Tracker_2|here]] and [[Template_talk:PSNTracker|here]], can we remove the Begging Counter template from the middle of the main page and relocate it to the Financhu Crisis Saga pages? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 06:08, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*You might want to consider asking people on Kiwi Farms for their opinions, because there's a shortage of editors here. I'm the one who wrote the begging counter and placed it on the main page, because Chris had been doing a ton of begging and I figured it'd be a good way to keep the Financhu Crisis featured on the main page (and because it was funny to see a counter of the days since he last worked on the comic). I think it's still relevant now, because Chris mostly either begs or works on the comic, and the template directly links to both from the main page. Kinda like Article of the Now, but with statistics. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*Yeah, I agree with Hurtful here. The begging counter should remain on the front page. -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 19:14, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

::How about moving it down a bit then? My man concern is that the Video of the Now is at the very bottom, for example, even though that's probably what most people are looking for after Da Update. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 23:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Alright. Video and Pic of the Now have been at the bottom for a while, though. Here's what the Main Page looked like before the counter - https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=199478 [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:40, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

== Downtime ==

What was up with the recent week-long downtime? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 03:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

== Discontinuing social media collection pages ==

Chris is so active on social media now that it's posing a problem for archiving his posts to the CWCki. There are only about 5 people who actively contribute here, which isn't enough for updating everything.

Collection pages like these are missing posts and the backlog goes back to June:

- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Facebook_posts
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Patreon_posts

A solution could be to discontinue those kinds of pages. The templates at the bottom could be updated to mention that and provide respective links to his FB, Twitter and Patreon if people want to see his posts there.

If something he says is big enough for mentioning in an article, the source link could just directly point to his social media post. Some users have been doing that for recent articles. The risk is that Chris might delete, but that's covered by screencaps at KF / CWCki Club.

A drawback is that his text wouldn't be searchable on the wiki, except as partial quotes. Twitter has a great search program as an alternative, but I dunno about FaceBook or Patreon.

Thoughts? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:44, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
* I don't want to have to comb through the Random Chris Updates threads to find a specific screenshot. I'll put in work to fill in the gaps when I get the chance.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] ([[User talk:MoarLurk|talk]]) 09:00, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*He made 22 tweets yesterday alone. Higher than average, but it's usually 5-10 per day and it adds up over the past few months. It's a lot to import into the wiki. If we don't discontinue, we should just use the social media pages to archive major posts that would be worthy of a thread or being on Da Update (like your updating the FB page on his lovequest posts from today). I think we should rewrite the opening paragraph present on the social media pages to state that they're now for major updates, as opposed to being a complete archive.[[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*Another reason archiving is harder now is there are multiple pages covering his posts (FaceBook, Patreon, Tweets, Tweets for NightStar). Sometimes when Chris posts to a social media platform, content from it gets mirrored to the others. If the post mentions another platform, check that platform's page to see if it's there so you won't go through the trouble of adding in something which is already present. Like, if there's a FaceBook post which refers to Twitter in its timestamp, you can post that content to the Tweets page instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 20:22, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

== Chris's fuckin dildo collection ==

Can anyone please find out if Chris has a dildo collection it would be really appreciated.

* Maybe if you channelled your energy into using the search bar instead of making this dumb post you would know. --[[User:Shekelberg|Shekelberg]]

== Tumblr ==

So it looks like Chris has made a [https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com tumblr]. Should a page be made about it? My tablet doesn't take screenshots so I haven't started one, and I don't really know what all to write about it.

-[[User:GhostofKittyChandler|GhostofKittyChandler]] ([[User talk:GhostofKittyChandler|talk]]) 00:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

*I made the page. It's currently a stub right now, so edit it to your heart's content :)

--[[User:Camille|Camille]] 16:07, 14 October 2017 (PDT)

==New Begging Video==
Chris just made a new begging video poorly disguised as a Patreon announcement. I don't know how to edit the front page, so can someone change the begging counter, sil'vous plaît?
Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojxss2jEaGk

-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 14:52,14 October 2017 (PST)

Tumblr

2017-10-14T22:58:35Z

Camille: Created page with "Christine owns a Tumblr account. So far, most of her posts consist of Patreon announcements. ==Gallery== ==External Links== https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com {{The Internet}}..."

Christine owns a Tumblr account. So far, most of her posts consist of Patreon announcements.

==Gallery==

==External Links==
https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com

{{The Internet}}
[[Category:Websites]]

User talk:Camille

2017-10-14T22:19:15Z

Camille: Created page with "==Hello World== Feel free to stop by and chat! --Camille 15:26, 14 October 2017"

==Hello World==
Feel free to stop by and chat!

--[[User:Camille|Camille]] 15:26, 14 October 2017

Talk:Main Page

2017-10-14T21:49:34Z

Camille:

{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates. For other questions, please use the [http://www.cwckiforums.com/ CWCki forum].}}

'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]] [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|2]]
==Make a new Saga?==
Even though Chris has been less active over the less couple of years, he has recently (since early March) been giving infomation about what has been happening over the last couple of years. I think we should call this a new Saga "Revalation" Saga. [[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 3:40, 14 September 2013 (EST)

the new saga is the Black Sonichu DLC saga, i posted a link to chris chan's facebook post in the news page --[[User:Beanmachine91|Beanmachine91]] ([[User talk:Beanmachine91|talk]]) 01:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

==Note==
Flipnote Hatena will be shutting down May 31, 2013. Also chris 2013 article needs updating.

==Did you know..==
Some of the "Did you knows" sound really over-opinionated and A-loggy next to the A-log article of the now.

Ex. "...that Chris is a disgusting human being?", "That Chris cannot dance", I also have a personal gripe with, "...that Chris was born on 24 February, the same day the Nazi party was founded?", as it associates CWC with Nazis. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 10:18, 16 December 2012 (PST)

Did you know "Chris declared his birthday national Christian Love day? He thought this was better than Mexican Flag day which is on his birthday February 24"
[[User:MsAuntieMama|MsAuntieMama]] 10:16 May 2015 (EST)

==ohinternet==
Should we include a da update about ED and ohinternet considering their past relationship? [[Supersheep|Supersheep]] 23:38, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

*Ironically, I vote this for today. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 15:11, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT) This link is dead

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*I personally would have Da Update be first but Clyde insists that the PSN Tracker is more important. Take your complaints to him.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:11, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011

== Remove the PSN tracker ==

Srsly. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:58, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Or put it under the update section. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:41, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

==TOMGIRL.PNG==
May I suggest a recoloring of the hair blonde? --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 09:31, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Liquid Chris Article ==
The whole "MOTHERLAND CALLS!" template has been up on the [[Liquid Chris]] page for a while, even before I became a member here. Has the article been fixed, or is it still in need of refurbishing? -- [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 22:09, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:Why are you asking this here? Try [[Talk:Liquid Chris]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:22, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:: The reason I asked here was because nobody has added anything new the article since March (ignoring a recent edit-revert), and nobody has done anything with the talk page since last September. I was just wondering if this should be the Improvement Project of the Now if it's gone nowhere for a while. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:09, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

== An error in dating? ==

Today's "''This day in Christory''" features [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|a video from February 5th, 2009]], but today is ''June 5th''. Is this intentional? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 10:37, 5 June 2011 (PDT)
*The video was from 5 Feb, but his CChanSonichu account was indeed hacked on 5 June. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:52, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

== Kim ==
Have we pulled a Wallflower on Kim? If not why doesn't she have a page, any information on her other than in passing, emails, phone calls, etc? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 21:45, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

==Just for you==
I while ago I figured out the code for making youtube audio play in the background based on ED's code for it. I just forgot to share it with you. Its a nice touch for user pages, but I wouldn't recommend them for Cwcki articles.

ev:youtube|'''(The Stuff After watch?v=)'''&autoplay=1&loop=1&start=1" height="1" width="1" fposition="left" frame="false"

except add '''{{#''' at the beginning and '''}}''' at the end, and lose the '''(''' ''')''' parenthese

Sorry if its confusing, ask [[User:freecell|freecell]] if you need help, he or she uses it too.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 20:01, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

==No detective needed==
Okay, you don't have to be a fucking detective to tell that [[User:Youdonttellmewhattodo|Youdonttellmewhattodo]], [[User:Nothingyouneedknow|Nothingyouneedknow]], [[User:GodoftheGodsofgod|GodoftheGodsofgod]] are the same fucking person seeing as all three accounts were made four minutes between each and they've been posting stupid shit, complimenting Chris, and blanking pages. It's an idiot, troll, or hell possibly Chris. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 11:34, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
:I don't think they're the same people. And I checked for some of them, they're not Chris. I don't remember specifically though and I'm kind of too lazy to check again. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:53, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
::Ok, sat down and checked those three again. Not Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:58, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

==New videos==
Chris just posted a couple of new videos and from the looks of it, relating to that forum that he's been posting on. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 11:27, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
*Two more videos have gone up. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:38, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
* I just posted the update but there still aren't any pages about the videos. I would but I'm really goddamn tired and I feel like shit. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:41, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
** It's cool, they'll get made eventually, and I can't wait, to be honest, I missed the shinagins that Chris provided in his videos. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:49, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Earthquake ==

Think CWC was affected by the 5.9 earthquake in Virgina at 2PM?--[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 11:17, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:If he was, I'm sure we'll be updated. Until then, there's no way we could know. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:21, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

:Unless a big box of Barb's Salvation Army finds crushed him.--[[User:Shefap|Shefap]] 12:27, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:* There's a website [http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/se/082311a/us/index.html] that will tell you where people in VA are saying they felt shaking. Around where Chris lives, there were reports of little-to-no shaking felt and no damage reported. He probably heard about the earthquake, but they probably felt nothing more than a vibration. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:05, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

== Article of the now. ==

shouldnt the Article of the now be Bob chandler? -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 12:50, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
:Indeed, I think Bob's bio should be article of the now until Chris uploads his next video. Then the article of the now should be changed into [[Chris and death]], as the most important thing about the next vid will be a demonstration of how Chris reacts (if he does react at all) to the death of a parent.
::Done, hope I did it right. -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 14:12, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
::*In the future, please refer discuss the Article of the now on its [[Talk:Article of the now|talk page]].

==Bob CWCki logo==
I found [[:File:BobCWCkiLogo.jpg|this gem]] we used ages ago for Bob's birthday, would it be in poor taste to post it in place of the current logo, for a while? Or perhaps someone could modify it to reflect his passing? I ask because I don't want to horribly offend people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
*I second this, but not for too long. --[[User:MissMeg|Mary Lee Walsh | All hail the dean!]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
*It would have been appropriate for down time, maybe as a 404 message, but now that he's passed on, it is a bit distasteful. It would have been even more offensive if you planned to do this 5 days after his death. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 16:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

== Chris' family tree. ==

We should expand on Chris family lineage, because Barbara's father died in an unusual way.

J.O. WESTON, OF RED OAK IS KILLED
Joseph Otto Weston, 58, a farmer, was killed late Friday when he apparently fell from his horse drawn wagon on a rural road near Red Oak Charlotte County.
Weston, of Red Oak, was hauling wood. Apparently he fell from the wagon and under a rear wheel.
His body was discovered after the driverless horse and wagon turned up at a nearby service station.
Dr. P.H. Winston, of Clarksville, medical examiner, said death was caused by a broken neck.
Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Carrie Winn Weston; five daughters, Mrs. Wilborne Bourne, of Richmond, and Mrs. Edward Carey and Misses Barbara Ann, Mabel and Harriet Weston, of Red Oak; three sons, William S. Weston, with the Navy at Norfolk, and DeRoy Lewis and Curtis Wayne Weston, of Red Oak; three brothers, Alfred Weston, of Chase City, and Daniel and Roy Weston, of Red Oak; one sister, Mrs. Mabel M. Blacklidge of Richmond, and one grandchild.
A funeral service was held at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at Antioch Baptist Church.
(Source: The Charlotte Gazette, Drakes Branch, VA, Thursday, April 14, 1955 Submitted by: Bea. Adams King)

http://genealogytrails.com/vir/charlotte/obits_w.html

This is the same Joesph Otto Weston that in mentioned in that Family tree.

== Edit-hiding ==

What's going on with all the edit-hiding? --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 10:49, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:I try to use the feature sparingly, but basically it's for the protection of users. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 6 November 2011 (PST)

== Stop this ==

The article of now has had bob plastered on it for 2 months, it's getting old so I decided to put an underrated sonichu character onto it and don't whine to me about it being disrespectful to bob, fuck bob! --[[User:cj|cj]]
*Personally, I think Jiggliami can eat a dick. Anyways, if you really felt that we needed a new article, you could have done something that made sense like, oh I don't know, [[28 October 2011]], instead of a character that has no relevance to what is happening in Chris's life at the moment. It's not that you're being disrespectful, it's just that you need to act a little more professionally on this site, even if it is a wiki devoted to an autistic manchild. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 10:31, 10 November 2011 (PST)

== what is this? ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt-gfkWu8Bc&feature=channel_video_title

Apparently this might be chris --[[User:The0range|The0range]]
*One, sign your comments. Two, this person claims they talked to a channel called "HuaYifu" and that this person was Chris. All you would have had to do is looked at HuaYifu's channel and you would have realized this wasn't Chris. This person has NOTHING uploaded on their channel that Chris would have done, never claims to be Chris, and never talks about Sonichu or Rosechu (which would have happened if it was Chris). This is NOT Chris. I'm not even sure how these messages came to be unless HuaYifu is trolling the owner of this video... or they both were in on it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:47, 10 December 2011 (PST)

But why is the uploader of the video so convinced it's him though? It seem so obvious that it's not him that there might be more to it... --[[User:The0range|The0range]]

==Proper usage of words where time is concerned==

I have noticed that there are many pages that refer to "a recent video" or use similar assumptive language with regards to time. We should refrain from this type of language as the cwciki, and those pages, will be around long after the word "recent" fails to apply. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:35, 15 December 2011 (PST)
:I've said exactly the same thing. I change it when I see it, but it seems people take for granted that other people actually have to fix their shit. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 11:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)

== STOP FORCASTING ! ==

Ok i understand the desire to keep every page up to date but STOP FORCASTING! Do not enter anything into the wiki that WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED at a later date. Don't put on barbs page that she has an upcoming court date, because that will have to be changed after that date happens. PLEASE dont make work for yourself and others.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:47, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Actually, I think that one's fine because it's an article that will inevitably have to be updated. The main issue arises on articles like videos, because post-fact people will be paying attention to other things. "Current" articles have to be rewritten all the time. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:52, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Event forecasting is fine on a Wiki when further information is expected within a reasonable timeframe. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:: i understand that if its on an active page then its fine, but when the forcasting is put on other pages it becomes a correctin issue. Its much better to just link to the appropriate pages and not speculate. Let the active pages do the talking while the historic data stays historic. In other words October 28th 2011 is currently the central location for court info. other pages dont need specifics until we know what the outcome is.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:41, 16 December 2011 (PST)

== Current Events ==

There aren't ant current events on the current events page. '''So either we need to get rid of it''', or we need to put 'current events' in our 'current events' so we can have 'current events' when we read the 'current events' -xzibit [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:09, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== Am i the only one who thinks there should be a second 'da update' type thing for significantly less important shit? ==

I'm not saying I demand this to happen, but it seems like it would be more convenient than checking recent changes for something that might possibly be new information. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 20:34, 29 January 2012 (PST)
: While that's an interesting idea... anything that's "new information" is usually in da update. Anything else is usually something small, not confirmed 100%, or almost insignificant. I suppose we could have something small...but it would be getting updated quite a bit. At the moment, I think "recent changes" is probably a lot like another, smaller, da update would be... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:03, 29 January 2012 (PST)

== Birthday Suprise ==

Chris will be turning 30 this year and that is going to have an effect on the wiki. There are places where phrases like "Even now in his late twenties" are used. This type of language is going to become outdated. Words like "twenties" "20s" and specific ages as in "at 28 years old, Chris still lives at home" will all eventually have to be changed. CARE MUST BE TAKEN when writing about time. Remember EVERYTHING is past tense and you have to assume that the reader is reading the information 10 years from now. I have mentioned time before but the whole 'turning 30' thing needs to be addressed separately.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:00, 2 February 2012 (PST)
*here is an example "There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a man that is almost thirty years old and has autism should live at home with his parents, specially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be." - This will need changing. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:16, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:[[Wikipedia:WP:SOFIXIT|So fix it]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:55, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:*Or as we like to say here on the CWCki, [[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT FAGGOT]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:30, 3 February 2012 (PST)
::*i am fixing what i see, just wanted others to be aware.[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:22, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Revised idea ==

Maybe there should be a {{Timeline}} below "da update" on the main page, that would be pretty handy.--[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 12:16, 5 February 2012 (PST)

That sounds like a good idea to me. [[user:poppybrolll|-~Poppybrolll~-]] 9:23, 11 February 2012 (PST)
*Sounds like a good idea to me too... i would suggest letting someone higher up the chain add it though. We just dealt with some front page vandalism (that was kinda funny BTW) but i think its a great idea [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:04, 17 February 2012 (PST)

== This is what chris actually believes ==

I notice this phrase attached to pictures all over the wiki. Some of the pictures are references to Chris believing that he has some sort of chance to get laid. But many are just derogatory and rude. There are times that we KNOW what Chris believes because he tells us but many times the pictures are misleading or speculative. example: the pic on the page [[Caitlin]] is an assumption and has no basis in truth. There are many examples of picture captions being downright rude and defamatory. I think its clear that none of us can stand Chris, but we should be more careful about that coming out in the wiki. The facts please, just the facts...[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:45, 29 February 2012 (PST) oops

: I [[CWCki:Policy#De-memeing the CWCki|concur]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

== Another Quote of the Now Suggestion ==

Now that the details of Chris's trial has been posted, do you think his outburst about having to pay Michael Snyder's medical bills- "That thieving liar doesn't deserve a red cent!"- would be appropriate? Of course, I'm still kind of a newfag here, so ignore this if you want. I just found it amusing. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 02:40, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== Suggested article: Persecution Complex ==

I think we definitely need an article about all the times Christian has claimed to suffer/endured harsh trials in his life. For example, equating pulling weeds once with a Marine carrying the dead body of his friend back, as seen in the Father Call. Said Father Call is chock full of instances of Chris claiming to have suffered to prove his worthiness, in fact. I also don't need to mention all the times he has brought up being handcuffed in school, having his attraction sign removed at college, and getting suspended at college, for that was always frequent. He also grossly exaggerated the actions of the trolls in every interaction with friends, obviously... Even in his first ever YouTube video, he makes sure to claim that he has had a rough life: "I was diagnosed with high-functional autism, and I lived a, uh, somewhat rough life. I've had an abusive babysitter at one time." --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 16:13, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

*: Seconded. Make sure to include the fact that he's got a legitimate reason so see his bullshit as more important than it is. Also there's a page for requesting articles. Now get to work, soldier. [[User:CaveJohnson|CaveJohnson]] 20:33, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

== Confused ==

So, what's the deal? Is this site just an ironic way of trolling him, or what? I heard this was dedicated towards supporting him from outside sources, but looking at the content, I'd say you'd either have to be trolling him using irony and sarcasm, or as stupid as Chris himself. {{unsigned|5thofjulay}}
: We're not for or against him, for most part. There's a bit of snark here and there, sure. We try to show Chris's stuff in his own words. Unfortunately for Chris, his material doesn't make him look very good. This site isn't really a troll site, just another way for Chris to troll himself. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums Gone? ==

Should we mention on the main page that the forum has been deleted from the servers over at forumer? --[[User:Sparklemilhouse|Sparklemilhouse]] 15:41, 8 November 2012 (PST)
: Perhaps, if we can figure out what happened and what the following actions are. Last I checked, the forum staff was looking at their options. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)
: I wonder how much Our Pet Lolcow is chuckling to himself at the loss of our forums. Maybe he thinks we closed it ourselves to comply with his "apology post" on FaceBook; or maybe that one of his Curse-ya-meha-meha blasts actually worked.
:There's a temporary relief forum for the CWCki Forums: http://spergcityzone.forumer.com/index.php [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums gone....again? ==

The most recent forums appear to be gone. Is everything okay, or was it closed due to some of the conflicts between certain users and mods/management? - [[User:I Be Bobby Boulders|I Be Bobby Boulders]] 10:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Can we make the forums ''not'' forumer this time? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Eagerly awaiting the forum's next incarnation. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:47, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Ditto. - [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 15:31, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:We received a Chatzy screencap a while ago that proves that the people we banned planned to TOS the forum because nobody is allowed to have fun if they can't. Don't know if they actually were responsible, but that's the information we have. I didn't save the screencap, but I'm sure someone has it. I'm hoping that we'll have something substantial up within a couple days. We're just waiting on a couple email responses first. And it definitely won't be Forumer. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 17:10, 30 January 2013 (PST)

That was on the first day of the banning, and they settled down, so I doubt they did anything rash. Plus I've been talking to them almost every day, and they dropped it shortly after that day. The thing is that their forum was TOS'd at the same time ours was, so I'm assuming whoever did it reported both forums, and I highly doubt they'd TOS their own forum.--[[User:Someguywithnoname|Someguywithnoname]] 18:08, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:Yeah, this. There was some talk of going after champ's forum after the permaban of several people for trying to have something done about a crime committed by one of the mods, but it was dropped as a bad idea before leaving the brainstorming stage. Whoever TOSed either or both forums may have gotten the idea from such talk (and/or, more likely, simply from the predecessor forum having been TOSed before). [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:They probably nuked both forums after they realized that A. They weren't going to be allowed back into the real one and B. Not very many people were going to defect to theirs. So they employed the Samson option. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 10:40, 31 January 2013 (PST)
::That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately. At least half to two-thirds of the regulars from spergcityzone had "defected" to spergcentral by the time it was TOSed (basically everyone except for those who didn't try to access either forum during the short interval between the TOSings). Why on earth would anyone involved in running spergcentral TOS their own forum when it was pretty much already established as the successor to spergcityzone? If I had to guess I would guess that punchabunch TOSed both forums to try to get them to blame each other for it, given that they went down within 24 hours of one another and given his enthusiastic talk of "forum war". But there isn't really any way of knowing. At any rate, there's probably some troll who wanted to fuck around with both forums. [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:::[MOVED RESPONSE TO RELIEF FORUMS]--[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 13:13, 31 January 2013 (PST)

I'm currently creating a new CWCki Forums which is not under forumer. I'll let you know if it's ready. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 18:42, 30 January 2013 (PST)

It's done! First time creating a forum, so give me some tips and suggestions about it. http://alanpardewcwc.forumms.net/ [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 21:01, 30 January 2013 (PST)

I just checked my email, and brooklyn sent an email to everyone who shared their email on the last board saying that the new permanent board should be up by this weekend/early next week. [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 21:49, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Well, at least we'll have a backup forum in case something happens.[[User:Saney|Saney]] 21:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

The permanent board is coming soon? Great. I'll update the link later when it is up. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:25, 30 January 2013 (PST)

== Photo of rental house ==

Surely the photo of the front of the rental house Charb are staying in should be the photo of the now. EXIF data stripped, of course. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 02:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

* I'm working on it. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Cheers! That house sure looks spooky. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 11:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

== Lego Wishlist ==

Exactly how much is Chris' NEED list worth? What about his WANT list?
At the same time, he's selling items that should have sentimental value to him to pay the bills.
This def needs some looking in to!
--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 05:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
* I decided to take this task on myself. Still weeding my way through ebay to find the lowest prices for each set, but suffice it to say, the tally is HIGH! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 18:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
**The grand total for what Chris is begging for in Legos alone is ~$4800 --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 19:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

== QOTN ==

"The drawing that is being sold on eBay now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork with no original intent of profit."

**This needs to be on the front page because Chris is saying that his drawing he drew to sell online wasn't meant for profit.
These are disparaging statements. One cannot draw something with the intent of selling it and say they didn't intend any personal profit.
I'd put this on the forums, but null can't take jokes.--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 20:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** The total list rounds out to just over to $4800 for the lego sets Chris wants. He no doubt deserves them... lol --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 22:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** Going to. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== PSN Tracker ==

I feel like this is kinda taking up valuable real estate on the front page. Anyone opposed to removing it? I was pretty much against it from day one, it's been on the front page mostly to appease [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] but he's long gone. Not sure what to do with the extra space. I'd say to post his most recent Facebook posts but well, recent events suggest that probably won't be happening. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 09:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

*I'm all for a section on Facebook posts, but, as you said, it's possible we'll be seeing a lot less of those. Either way, the PSN tracker needs to go. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 10:41, 31 December

* I dunno. I always kinda liked it. A constant reminder of how much money he wastes. [[User:Sweet and Savoury|Sweet and Savoury]] ([[User talk:Sweet and Savoury|talk]]) 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== refer Chris as a female with female pronouns ==

==Article of the Now change?==

So since the article about the Gamestop incident is getting old, why not replace it with this recent page about the documentary for Chris Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjnakAlF-s)

== Many MediaFire Links are Broken ==

Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 22:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

== New update, transgender ==

"...(s)he"

I have an issue with this. Hasn't it been decided we shouldn't cater to Chris' whims and call him what HE wishes to be called? It should be "he", indefinitely, I think.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 20:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
*I'm kind of on the fence about this because I'm transgender myself. On one hand, I want to say that she isn't actually transgender, but on the other hand I want to be on the safe side and just refer to her with female pronouns. [[User:Melkor|Melkor]] ([[User talk:Melkor|talk]]) 21:46, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

== Here's a creative suggestion for the 'Da Update' section ==

Put goddamn fucking links to whatever the fucking update's about.

==CWCki Logo==
Hey! I made the CWCki logo back in 2008ish and I'm wondering if you guys wanted an updated version of it--It's pretty old by now.
The concept would be the same (Chris ontop of the Sonichu Ball), just in better quality. Cheers. [[User:Gleefk|Gleefk]] ([[User talk:Gleefk|talk]]) 19:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
:I know I'm responding to this way late, but, yeah, if you have an updated version then I say go for it. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 05:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== So, This Superrocks3 Guy..... ==

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdMsi-rtmbI]

This is John Paglia, aka superrocks3. He is apparently whiteknighting for Chris. I'm debating contributing an article about him. I've viewed the rest of his YouTube account. Either he is trying WAAAAAAAAY too hard to troll or severely autistic. Nothing really noteworthy has happened with this guy in regards to interactions with CWC. CWC liked one of his videos, and that's it so far. Should I get this article going or have I found some shit that actually is too minor for the CWCKI?

* I believe this is too minor for CWCki. There is many people trying to be funny by whiteknighting/trolling Chris, but we don't document them unless they have some actual relation with Chris and unless they have contributed something major to the CWC community (like [[Robert Simmons V]], who actually met Chris, appeared in the comics and contributed to the CWC community by uploading the Church audio). A similar case of someone trying to funny occourred with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BN13HKbck MasterEliteFighter] who "participated" in Chris's "embargos" and got a mention from Chris, but besides that, he is not really that notable to make a page about him. [[User:Helis5|Helis5]] ([[User talk:Helis5|talk]]) 18:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

== Can't edit Sonichu 11 article? ==

I've been trying to add the troll comic to it but whenever I try to edit it I get a blank page. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] ([[User talk:One With The Lulz|talk]]) 02:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

== Replace pmurt with new article ==

The pmurt article is getting real old seeing as it's been up for like a month or ttwo. I recommend replacing it with sonichu #11 to put more emphasis on the financhu crisis. --[[User:Pepper-0|Pepper-0]] ([[User talk:Pepper-0|talk]]) 10/01/17

*Maybe we should wait a bit more, until Pmurt takes office later this month. Chris has been commenting more on him than his finances lately, too. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 10:04, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

==New sighting in local news==
Chris turned up at a student mourning event and they made the whole video about interviewing Chris as if he was just a random student, he even has his fucking sonichu comics on the flowers as a form of self advertisemnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n062B5gurp0 , Should be at least Video of the Now

*Yeah. I'll probably write up an article about it later. Unfortunately, there's not many editors left. I'm usually the one who adds content to the CWCki lately, but I'm a bit burned out from editing, especially with the ongoing server issues making it difficult. I'll probably get stuff updated in a day or two. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

== Begging counter ==

For the same reasons as the [[Template:PSNTracker]], mentioned [[Talk:Main_Page#PSN_Tracker_2|here]] and [[Template_talk:PSNTracker|here]], can we remove the Begging Counter template from the middle of the main page and relocate it to the Financhu Crisis Saga pages? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 06:08, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*You might want to consider asking people on Kiwi Farms for their opinions, because there's a shortage of editors here. I'm the one who wrote the begging counter and placed it on the main page, because Chris had been doing a ton of begging and I figured it'd be a good way to keep the Financhu Crisis featured on the main page (and because it was funny to see a counter of the days since he last worked on the comic). I think it's still relevant now, because Chris mostly either begs or works on the comic, and the template directly links to both from the main page. Kinda like Article of the Now, but with statistics. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

*Yeah, I agree with Hurtful here. The begging counter should remain on the front page. -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 19:14, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

::How about moving it down a bit then? My man concern is that the Video of the Now is at the very bottom, for example, even though that's probably what most people are looking for after Da Update. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 23:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Alright. Video and Pic of the Now have been at the bottom for a while, though. Here's what the Main Page looked like before the counter - https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=199478 [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:40, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

== Downtime ==

What was up with the recent week-long downtime? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 03:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

== Discontinuing social media collection pages ==

Chris is so active on social media now that it's posing a problem for archiving his posts to the CWCki. There are only about 5 people who actively contribute here, which isn't enough for updating everything.

Collection pages like these are missing posts and the backlog goes back to June:

- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Facebook_posts
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets
- https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_Patreon_posts

A solution could be to discontinue those kinds of pages. The templates at the bottom could be updated to mention that and provide respective links to his FB, Twitter and Patreon if people want to see his posts there.

If something he says is big enough for mentioning in an article, the source link could just directly point to his social media post. Some users have been doing that for recent articles. The risk is that Chris might delete, but that's covered by screencaps at KF / CWCki Club.

A drawback is that his text wouldn't be searchable on the wiki, except as partial quotes. Twitter has a great search program as an alternative, but I dunno about FaceBook or Patreon.

Thoughts? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:44, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
* I don't want to have to comb through the Random Chris Updates threads to find a specific screenshot. I'll put in work to fill in the gaps when I get the chance.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] ([[User talk:MoarLurk|talk]]) 09:00, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*He made 22 tweets yesterday alone. Higher than average, but it's usually 5-10 per day and it adds up over the past few months. It's a lot to import into the wiki. If we don't discontinue, we should just use the social media pages to archive major posts that would be worthy of a thread or being on Da Update (like your updating the FB page on his lovequest posts from today). I think we should rewrite the opening paragraph present on the social media pages to state that they're now for major updates, as opposed to being a complete archive.[[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

*Another reason archiving is harder now is there are multiple pages covering his posts (FaceBook, Patreon, Tweets, Tweets for NightStar). Sometimes when Chris posts to a social media platform, content from it gets mirrored to the others. If the post mentions another platform, check that platform's page to see if it's there so you won't go through the trouble of adding in something which is already present. Like, if there's a FaceBook post which refers to Twitter in its timestamp, you can post that content to the Tweets page instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 20:22, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

== Chris's fuckin dildo collection ==

Can anyone please find out if Chris has a dildo collection it would be really appreciated.

* Maybe if you channelled your energy into using the search bar instead of making this dumb post you would know. --[[User:Shekelberg|Shekelberg]]

== Tumblr ==

So it looks like Chris has made a [https://cwcsonichu.tumblr.com tumblr]. Should a page be made about it? My tablet doesn't take screenshots so I haven't started one, and I don't really know what all to write about it.

-[[User:GhostofKittyChandler|GhostofKittyChandler]] ([[User talk:GhostofKittyChandler|talk]]) 00:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

==New Begging Video==
Chris just made a new begging video poorly disguised as a Patreon announcement. I don't know how to edit the front page, so can someone change the begging counter, sil'vous plaît?
Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojxss2jEaGk

-[[User:Camille|Camille]] 14:52,14 October 2017 (PST)

User talk:Cogsdev

2017-10-08T05:53:02Z

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{{protip|COGSDEV SAYS: account creation [for [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]]] totally disabled for now because i'm getting tired of people registering over and over thinking it'll get them approved faster 

if your account was deactivated and you want it back, don't ask me on my cwcki talk page, ask someone in the [[IRC:Contents|irc channel]] 

<center>and sign your god damn edits</center>}}

'''Be sure to read the archives before posting.'''

[[User:Cogsdev/Archive 1]]

==A few things==
I've been helping [[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] with image optimization, and in the process, I've come across a few things.
# Wondering if I could have file deletion privileges, so Fs doesn't have to keep checking my userpage and deleting everything for me?
#Is there an "images marked for deletion" tag or something, so we can discuss and get rid of files that don't serve any purpose here? [[:Image:LoriLopez.jpg|Example]] (Uploaders may dispute/defend the merit of the image if they wish.)
#I'm thinking maybe we should have a limit to the number of 'vanity' images you can upload for (specifically) your userpage.
#Similarly, it seems a lot of people upload their fanart just to share it, but they only put it in [[:Category:Fan art]] and don't link it anywhere else. I'm pretty sure CWCki isn't intended to be a dump-all for CWC-related art. That's what [[ED]] (lol) and [[DeviantArt]] are for. And the torrent.
#Lastly, is it really necessary to keep the userpages of vandals like [[User:Sean Connery]] and [[User:CWCki is Communism]]? Couldn't we just delete them and then block them from re-creation?
--[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 20:14, 6 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Not to be rude, but allow me to answer some of these:
:#I'll think about it. There's already a lot of admins/jerkops and most of them really don't need to do anything, even in a case of vandalism.
:#Just use the regular deletion tag, that works fine.
:#I think most people are good about vanity images. If there's someone who abuses this, an admin or jerkop can say something.
:#The whole idea of the Fan index is to provide a place for people to display their Sonichu/Chris related fan art where people will notice it (as opposed to being drowned in a sea of Sonic recolors on DeviantArt) since PVCC has closed account registration and that's where most people would go to post their fan art. Ideally, we should find ways to incorporate fan art into articles.
:#Eh, it's a good way to shame them. If it gets to be a problem, we'll delete them then.
:Okay, that's all I can think of for now since I need to get some sleep. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:56, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
::*On the note of number 5, I think posting a message saying "BANNED" like we have is sufficient. It's not necessary to make a tribute like [[ED]] or a [http://wiki.patrioticnigras.org/wiki/User:Lolatthefactyouthinkyoucanstopme total Arc De Fail like we do on the Patriotic Nigra Wiki.]--[[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]] [[User:Anon1Guardian|DrSerbia]][[image:datass.jpg|40px]] 05:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

==Resource Leak==
I could be wrong, but it seems that thumbnails aren't auto-generated. Rather, they are stored server-side for use in a page. The problem is, the thumbnails are horrible space wasters.
[[:Image:Soldier of Love and Honesty.png|This image]] is 11.4kb, however, the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/images/thumb/b/b9/Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png/200px-Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png 200px thumbnail] is 77.6 kb! This seems to be caused by the severe artifacting of the white background in the thumbnail. I don't know if there's anything you can do about this, but I thought I'd let you know. The original image could actually be trimmed to a 200px width without losing any of the art itself. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 23:00, 17 October 2009 (CEST)
*yeah, it's an issue with the image library we're using. i don't think there's really anything i can do about that, but i wouldn't worry too much, we should have more than enough space to accommodate thumbnails. i really do wish we could use imagemagick, though, so we wouldn't have this problem... --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 23:13, 17 October 2009 (CEST)

==Destin==
I made a mistake and misread Destin's edits. I have already apologized to him. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 11:13, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

== My Ban ==

First things first, I suppose. I'll say that I do feel kind of bad about how I reacted to your claims yesterday, Ms. Dev. My reaction was unncessarily aggressive, and I certainly could have defended myself in a much more appropriate way. So, I'm sorry. I apologize for my unruly response and my claim that you and your co-mods had failed.

However, I'm not quite finished with what I have to say. I find it kind of asinine that you banned me, and ''then'' you came to my discussion page to apologize to me. While I would like to accept your apology, doing that makes it awful difficult for me to take your apology seriously. I accept FS's, and I would accept Champ's, too, if he gave one (though he doesn't really have much to apologize for), but that's because they didn't go ahead and ban me before apologizing.

That said, I think your reaction to ''my reaction'' is fairly ridiculous, too. You make little sense, and I think you merely banned me because you didn't like being told off. You claim that this Wiki is to document Chris, not mock him? Straight from the article entitled "A Quick Guide to CWCki":

"So, you wish to edit the wiki on the Internet's most beloved and most hated autistic manchild?"

This isn't mocking? After reading that, I clicked the "random page" button twice, and I ended up on the page called "CWCipedia", and found the sentence "CWCipedia also serves as the ultimate test of the use of MediaWiki software and software usability, in which it strives to create a platform that even a autistic manchild/lazy fuck can easily use." After reading something like that, I think it's an exceptional load of crap that you're trying to act like this site is designed to document him. It's designed to have laughs at his expense, and you know damn well that it is.

And why should you care if ''I'' bash him, anyway? After, I'm merely adding to the humor of the site and doing what I'm encouraged to do in the "Quick Guide" section named "POV is the norm" where it says:

"CWCki's guide is to document the Internet phenomena of Chris-chan for troll purposes. Given that the manchild has clearly shown to be racist, homophobic, and just plain perverted, not to mention he proclaims himself to be some sort of celebrity, it's only fair he gets the negative criticism that comes with being a celebrity.

So go ahead, bash him."

As I've pointed out, you don't stop anyone else. In fact, you encourage them. Well, in all fairness, I won't repeat the mistake that you made with me, and, as a result, I won't claim that you wrote that, considering that the history of the page seems to suggest otherwise. But... you don't seem to mind your co-moderators writing it in as a policy for ''your Wiki''.

Anyway, I made a Chris-bashing edit to a page (which no on else deemed irrelevant enough to have it removed), and, after a load of drama, I'm in the wrong for making that edit? That's horse shit. On top of claiming that you're not here to mock him (which I've already refuted, as far as I'm concerned), you say that I should make more relevant edits. That's also horse shit. I have no obligation to you to make edits how ''you'' see fit. You put people under no obligation to edit the things you want editted whom simply read the Wiki and lurk. But, when people come along, and stop lurking for a bit to add to the humor of the site, they automatically become your minions? That's bullshit. I have no more or less obligation to you than the average lurker; you don't pay me, you don't give me ''exceptional'' priveleges, and I don't want you to do either. I just want to have some fun here and enjoy the site, and my enjoyment doesn't seem to have detracted from the goal of the Wiki in any way. CWCki really isn't serious business, and I'm sure you don't need me to explain that to you. So... I fail to accept the idea that my edit was not acceptable by your Wiki's standards. As I said earlier, I think you're just making stuff up to justify banning me for telling you off.

All-in-all, my point is this: on top of the fact that your reasons for banning me seem to be either petty, hyprocritical, or both, you're also not going to stop me from making edits to your Wiki by banning me. I'm not even writing these from my normal residence. Plus, there are plenty of proxies, and there are many of other places I can go to get new IPs and make edits, if I so desire. So... we can come to terms on this, and move on, or we can keep playing the pointless ban game, and, well, I'm done rambling here for now. It's your turn to play.

D-Dizzle, fa reeeeel
--[[User:RevengeOfTheDestinMan|RevengeOfTheDestinMan]] 21:01, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*well, three things to note, then:
# [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_not_ED]]. we aren't here to mock, we're here to let chris speak for himself.
# as you said, it's my wiki. so, i determine what is acceptable and what is not. i didn't have a problem with you, until you decided to disregard my advice, and told me that you'd continue making what are ultimately pointless edits. i don't like making things into serious business, but when you start being deliberately annoying, then we have a problem.
# i won't look around for any new accounts you make on proxies, but i will be banning this one for ban evasion. you were banned for being a faggot. sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here". if you want your first account unbanned, do something to impress champthom and then ask him nicely
so long as you aren't being a vandal or a faggot, we won't have any further problems. now stop acting like you have any rights around here, it's my site and i'll do whatever the fuck i want to do --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 21:52, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*
# You and I both know that this one isn't true. That's why this Wiki exists while CWCipedia exists. In fact, I remember reading about that somewhere on this site, probably on the CWCipedia page, but I don't care enough to wave it in your face, because we all know that this was made so Chris ''wouldn't'' get to always have his say. ...Quit trying to pass this off as some noble effort.
# I disregarded your advice because it was unwarranted. You have no ''logical'' grounds (though powertrip grounds may apply) to expect some random person to edit things pages that you want them to. Also, as I said, you defy logic by only seeming to care when ''I'' make minor edits, and never when anyone else does. Anyway, why the hell would I want to make major contributions when I get bitched at for making meager efforts? And... as for me being deliberately annoying... honestly? I was refuting the accusations of you and two other moderators. Is it really so annoying to point out that you guys made a mistake? Or was it my irritated tone that was so annoying (and that only occurred once)? Now, I can be a real son of a bitch asshole fucktard vandal if I want to be. I won't. I'm not that way, so I'll spare you and your mods the tedium of chasing through articles to fix edits, but you find me (though angrily) telling you that you were wrong in accusing me to be annoying? Yeah, I guess maybe it ''is'' annoying to realize that you made a mistake, and that this person isn't being totally pleasant with you about it, but there are ways to deal with annoyances (especially fairly minor ones) that are far more logical than banning the person responsible. Yes, I know you have the grand power to kick people off of your Wiki, but, again, I ask that you consider this in ''logical'' terms, where banning people for minor annoyances makes for a tense community. Now, since we've already discussed your amount of power, I suppose you can have a tense community if you really want one, but I doubt you really do want that, and you're only making things worse by the way you keep acting about this. I was hoping you wouldn't react like this to my post here, but... you do make things ever so complicated for both of us....
# 'sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here".' As I thought I made clear, I'm sorry about "telling you off". There's no need to bring that up any more. I'm sorry about it. Chiding me more for it doesn't make me any more sorry. I admit that that was my mistake. However, I think you're confused if you think I was doing it to have some fun. When I was talking about having fun here, I was talking about my edit to the video. I don't bitch at people for fun. Well... maybe... but not in this case. And, yes, you're right. I have no rights here. However, I merely suggest that maybe you treat people as though they do have some rights. It's just a suggestion. It makes your place more enjoyable for everyone, though maybe you don't care about that so much. Once I get back to my normal residence, though, I can easily circumvent your system without you ever realizing. And, in spite of all your hateful rage and rights-denying, I can actually become a valid member of your Wiki (if I actually wanted that). Hell, I could become your best friend if I really wanted to. Imagine that! Me and you, total pals! What a tight-knit posse we could make! Oh, the adventures we'd have! Games of kickball at the park. Tossing a frisbee in a field! Raiding caves for secret treasure! Why, we'd be like Bonnie and Clyde (Cash). Really, imagine that! That's how close we could get, without you ever realizing (though... don't take this the wrong way; I worry that I'm starting to sound like Chris). You get my point... well... assuming you understand that these sentences are drenched with sarcasm. So, yes, do as you please, but your efforts to ban me are pointless, and I really think it's very much in your benefit to act a bit more rationally here, because I really don't think that continuing to ban me and chide me is going to make you look better. I mean... banning me for ban evasion of a ban that I didn't deserve in the first place doesn't really make sense. Please, just think about it a bit. G'day, ma'am. --[[User:MoreDestination|MoreDestination]] 22:29, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*Sweet Jesus, why didn't you just let it go. Now you are starting some talkpage war over a privately owned wiki about a retarded manchild cause you disagree about how a misunderstanding was handled. Do you want to edit or not? You either edit here and have fun with us or fuck off. Most people find the process pretty simple: Document Chris while being factual yet snarky. Is that so hard? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:40, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*There's subtle mocking which is what we do, versus outright "DO IT FOR THE LULZ" sort of mocking ED does. CWCki is relied upon moreso than ED because we don't so much go out of our way to be funny, we focus more on documenting and in documenting Chris, we mock him by pointing out his personal flaws and how fucked up he is. It's a different sort of humor.
:Really, people (and I'm addressing this not just to Destin but everyone reading this), if you ever feel angry about something on CWCki, shut off your computer and take a walk or at least play a game or something like that. Then remind yourself you're getting angry over a wiki about an autistic manchild.
:If this is over the "Jew" thing in [[I Love You Kacey]], I'll tell you what I object about it - it is making a misleading transcript to make a nod at someone. If Chris actually said "Jew," that's alright and yes, Chris does have a tendency to slur "you" so it sounds like "jew" because he's attempting to say "you' in a cutsy way. But that's kinda overdoing it. Maybe if Chris actually says Jew, then it'd be an appropriate nod - it's like how there's an Anonymous quote which the link of Anonymous links to our [[User:Anonymous|beloved #1 user]] (seriously, he's the only dude who registered before me but after cogs).
:Words of wisdom - don't mess with cogs, anyone who knows her well like I do would advise similarly. Ultimately, it's her website and she has the final say. I don't always agree with cogs but I do respect her decisions as founder and I generally avoid trying to undo what she does because that would set a bad precedent. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:15, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Okay, I forgot about Fuckingstupid saying he made a mistake. I've made a similar mistake too before about accusing someone for a bad edit. It happens, we're only human. But really, don't freak out - just say "I believe you're mistaken" and show them. Bitching only makes things worse and makes people less sympathetic to your case, even if you are right. In any case, I wanted to air about the Jew thing.
::Likewise, this is in general, let's try and not bite people's head off in letting them know about bad edits. [[Wikipedia:Don't_bite_the_newcomer|This]] is a decent guide at Wikipedia's approach at this sort of thing and I think it's alright. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:22, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:::*Exactly, I made a mistake and now we are all paying for it. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:34, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

*destin, you don't quite seem to understand a simple rule of the internet. i own this website. therefore, any ban i hand out is justified, no matter what you might think. rather than bitching on and on about how it's an unjust ban and evading and so forth, you should instead be accepting the ban as valid and working to correct your behaviour, if you wish to contribute. i've told you already: if you give us something useful, we'll unban you. simple, right? we've discussed this more than enough. any further comments from you will be considered vandalism and reverted. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:05, 25 October 2009 (CET)

:*You should have a ban evasion sub-page so the rest of us don't have to scroll through this tl;dr nonsense lol --15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Request ==
A friend of mine was interesting in joing the PVCC.
So, can he join?--[[User:Gourmetpickle|Gourmetpickle]] 22:27, 26 October 2009 (CET)
*probably not, i don't know who he is --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:59, 26 October 2009 (CET)

== How about all videos in one template? ==

There are 4 or so right now. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:56, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*wha...? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 18:01, 28 October 2009 (CET)

Captain's log, game videos, other vides, music videos, I'm on TV. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:14, 28 October 2009 (CET)

:*Sonijew, that's the big plan I was hinting at before when I responded to your complaint over me splitting off the game videos. Have patience! I'm working on just such a template piece-by-piece! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 18:42, 28 October 2009 (CET)

== Hi, regarding renaming/recategorizing pages ==

[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009]] should be [[Gaybian videos]] and in Clyde Cash videos. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:27, 31 October 2009 (CET)

And the similar thing for [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009]] too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:46, 31 October 2009 (CET)

:*I'll see what I can zap up for ya... :3 [[User:Llort|Llort]] 19:19, 31 October 2009 (CET)

[[Captain's Log, Stardate January 12th, 2009]] is no Captain's Log too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:42, 3 November 2009 (CET)

==Re; player plugin==
[[Image:Awesome micro.png|Awesome]], I'll get to work on gathering clips and putting together a tutorial page. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Cogs ==

Ahoy, I want to finally join PVCC in the interest of gathering more information to help me write moar CWCki, and I figured you were the one to pester about how to go about doing this. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:10, 7 November 2009 (CET)
*Unless account activation just ''happens'' to be totally deactivated which I now notice at the top of the page. FML --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:12, 7 November 2009 (CET)

==Succession template==

The changes that you made to [[Template:Succession]] caused existing instances of the template to stop functioning properly. I tried a couple times to remove what looked to me to be redundant or erroneous code, but I still couldn't get the template working again. Do you think you might be able to fix whatever went haywire? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:56, 10 November 2009 (CET)
*check the template page. previously, the parameters weren't named, it decided which was which based on its number. if you want to save time, i'd recommend using the template in a new template and set the prevlink and nextlink parameters as {{{1}}} and {{{2}}} respectively - that way, you won't have to enter all the parameters every time, just enter {{NewTemplate|Previous Article|Next Article}} and it'll be fine. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 11:20, 10 November 2009 (CET)

==I have a Question==
Is it true you're a girl?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 23:30, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*If you look inside your heart, you will find the answer. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)

I have one too: Who is the Sysop on Cwcipedia? Is it you? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:56, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*Cogs and myself share Sysop privileges but I only intervene when necessary, such as when she posted a card image that only a troll would have had access to, since it came from the leaked [[Scrapbook of Fail]] or when I recommended that Chris do a heart level thing (which a CWCkipedian came up with) or when I moved a message Cogs posted to the top since Chris is a lazy ass who wouldn't see it at the bottom. But otherwise, yeah, it's cogs 99% of the time. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:47, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**I think Champthom and Cogsdev are a pretty brave guy, ethy wade through unfiltered Chris everyday and dosen't afaraid of insanity.--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 03:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**clyde has access too, he's been helping with the mailbag shit --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:13, 21 November 2009 (CET)

== [[My big 18th party (story)]] ==

Could you please remove the (story) from this title? There's no need for it. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 05:15, 3 December 2009 (CET)
*Oh, and please to be moving [[R.L.Stine]] to [[R.L. Stine]]. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 17:22, 3 December 2009 (CET)
:*Mucho grassy ass. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 23:48, 3 December 2009 (CET)

== Sig. Images ==

Do you know if there's a way I can make my little image after my signature automatic without typing the code after every signature? Let me know if you know how or who I should talk to. --[[User:Anon1Guardian|Anon1Guardian]] 23:28, 5 December 2009 (CET)[[Image:anonlaugh.png|50px]]
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Encyclopedia_Dramatica:Help/Markup#Customized_sigs ED has some info on customizing sigs] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 20:20, 6 December 2009 (CET)

== Taxpayermoney ==

You did realize my edit to {{tl|Taxpayermoney}} was to remove a redlinked category, right? I have since made the category, so we both win. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 07:12, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*huh? the purpose of my edit was to remake the whole template in wikitext, you made the edit after i started editing but before i hit submit. also what's up with [[Template:tl]], you link to a template like this:

<nowiki>[[Template:Taxpayermoney]]</nowiki>
i think i added that template because some weird wikipedia template depended on it. oh well, guess i'll leave it there, don't want to break anything
--[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

==Problem with page titles==
Some people are complaining about page titles, like apparently they've suddenly broken. For instance, Pokemon (with the dash over the e) suddenly turned into '''PokÃ©mon.''' Same deal with Regime Fil Aimes. Sounds more like a technical MediaWiki deal, any idea what's going on? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:32, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*probably a database error. i imagine it has something to do with unicode, so maybe it should be policy to only use ordinary characters(i.e., no accents) in page titles? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:29, 11 December 2009 (CET)
**If that's going to be a problem, be sure to change [[Naïve]] --[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 07:20, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*Since this is old news, I removed the brackets from the word 'PokÃ©mon,' to get it off the "Wanted Pages" list. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 23:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== Proofreading ==

Any chance we could organize some sort of proofreading drive? I've noticed far too many typos and grammatical errors in the articles, not to mention bad wiki formatting. (For instance, the proper way to bold the text at the start of an article is <nowiki>'''like this'''</nowiki>, but most articles have it <nowiki>[[like this]]</nowiki> instead.) [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 08:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*With authority granted to me by my admin powers, I hereby dub you Head Grammar Nazi in charge of The Final Solution to addressing the grammar problem on CWCki. [[:CWCki:Operation Grammatification]] is yours to do with as you will to organize a proofreading drive. You have also been cleared for Super High Priority on the [[:CWCki:Priority Listing|priority list]].

:Also, what's the dillio with the bolding? I mean, if you're referring to the article name, you can do that because 1) it's the article itself and 2) it saves a few bits because it takes one less character to do it and 3) it works. Perhaps our resident [[User:Wwwwolf|wiki <strike>pedo</strike> wizard]] can clear it up. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

:*Proofreading drive?! To me, that's virtually pornographic. ''Definitely'' fap-worthy. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 08:48, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*I created [[CWCki:Operation Grammatification]]. Care to help me shill it? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:17, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*P.S. Do I need to be a jerkop to have pagemove rights? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:32, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:**I will gladly assist you, good sir. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 21:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*can people please stop using html for tables? wiki tables exist for a reason, please [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table learn to use them] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:18, 12 December 2009 (CET)

== Re: PVCC logo ==

Here's a link to the PVCC logo in illustrator format.[http://www.4shared.com/file/137811560/b1a824eb/PVCClogosmall.html] It's free use(libre) if that wasn't already implied, sorry for taking so long to respond, har. Drop me a message if you want anything else vectorized or whatever. --[[User:Ror|Ror]] 19:52, 15 December 2009 (CET)

==Steam==
Do you manage the Steam PVCC user group, and if so, are there any requirements to join? --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 12:43, 27 December 2009 (CET)

==Emails sent to chris.==
If you are the sysop of cwcipedia, please include my newest email sent to him, on Jan 7. The text can be found on my user page.

==Asperpedia Ad for intro image==
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3276/asperpediaad.jpg
Idea:
1. Replace "introduction image"
2. Protect image so can't be replaced or reuploaded
3. Profit
[[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

==Special:ListFiles==
Can you take a look at [[Special:ListFiles]]? The page loads the list of files, but the search function is broken... it worked on the 110MB CWCki, and was really useful. Thanks in advance =) --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 04:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
*works fine for me, but i haven't tested it much. what exactly was the problem? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 15:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**Compare these: [http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AListFiles New CWCki] and [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php/Special:Imagelist?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AImagelist Old CWCki]. The same files exist on both sites, but one search is pulling up all file names that include the characters "Schu" while the other only pulls up one. And weirdly it's picking the one where the characters exist in the middle of the name, rather than the beginning. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 03:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
***that is pretty weird... it doesn't seem to recognise the first character of a search. i'll look this up but i'm not sure what i can do to fix it. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== My videos ==

I'm not sure if you'll want these or not; but if you're recording everything Chris dose then you may want the videos I've posted on my user page.

If not you should check 'em out anyway... I find it funny how Chris thinks every voice he can do is better than ours.

http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/User:Jester

==Implement Database CGI for listing Chris's Videos?==
I have come under the impression that the [[List of Videos|list of Chris's video ]] is starting to become crowded, and that it's only going to become worse. Moreover, I think that it would be nice if we can have a script that could sort his videos by his date, his performance type, etc.

So I thought that it would be nice if we use a CGI program that could list/sort his videos.

I have knowledge with websites, and I have dealt with CGI programs before. Japanese websites are the best for finding a free CGI database program, which I am able to translate so that it would fit into the CWCki. (if time permits, of course)

But for now, do you agree with this idea?
--[[User:Shogun|Shogun]] 00:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*i thought that's what [[Table of Videos]] was for --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 13:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

==Repeat PVCC Registration Attempts==

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I think one reason behind this is because the page has no prompt confirming when you've successfully submitted the request (At least I didn't get one). I had a lot of trouble with the confirmation code and I had no idea I'd got it right until it told me that the name was already in use. I used the same name I used on here, so I figured [[Liquid Chris|someone else]] had taken it. I started trying another name and figured I was just screwing up the confirmation code again until it told me that the other name had been taken. I finally got the hint after that.

TL;DR: I think a prompt confirming that a new account is awaiting confirmation would cut down the repeat registrations. [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 15:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
*it's supposed to tell you that your account has been submitted and is awaiting approval. if it isn't, then that's probably the result of errors left over from the move from 110mb. i might just disable registrations entirely and manually make accounts for people if that's the case, since it'll be kind of hard to fix --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

*Yeah, I was registering an account last night, and I accidentally set up 2 profiles! You need to fix that shit Cogs, and undo my permaban.
--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 22:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

** Honestly when I tried to register, and forgive me if I registerd more than once, I kept getting a message declaring that I had fucked up the confirmation code, hopefully it's just my inability to figure out the PVCC's conifrmations code style.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 4:56, 7 March 2010 (EST)

it's broken, and i can't be arsed fixing it because it's not like i approve new accounts anyway --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 12:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

* Yeah that is true seeing as if you did PVCC would overflow with ED users posting "such marvelous gems of threads" such as "Ivy wuz a blowup doll lol" or some stupid shit lke that.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 8:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I tried to register, but no response. In the case that you might manually authorise me (or not), I'd like to join PVCC because I've thought up some good trolling schemes and I'd like to put them in to action. If you'd like to hear my ideas or otherwise want to talk to me further, respond on my talk page. [[User:Joe Da Moo|Joe Da Moo]] 21:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just tried registering a little while ago and I got a 500 error or something with no confirmation e-mail. Do you think you could confirm my account, please? I assure you I'm not an ED fag. --[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]] 07:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Color coding and stuff ==

Two questions:
# I'm trying to reformat the IRC chats, and that includes color coding. What color do you want to be?
# I'd kinda like to sign up for the PVCC. Is it even worth trying?
Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, i don't think there's any particular rules regards color coding, and i don't mind so long as it's easily readable. also, go ahead and sign up for PVCC, we kind of need some new users anyway. just uh, keep in mind i might forget to approve you, and only sign up once(even if it looks like the attempt failed) --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**I think I signed up twice because I fucked up the Captcha. My bad. :( --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Community Portal rename=%3D

Just curious, is it possible to rename Community Portal? I mean, it's a fine name but maybe we should give it something more CWC related? We could solicit some feedback but first I'm wondering if it's possible. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, that's the default name mediawiki gives it. i was thinking we could do what most other wikis do, and have the community portal be... well, a portal, to other discussion pages about various topics. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== A small question ==

I want to know, is it possible to add a new "Chris and..." page regarding his lack of knowledge about science or "biologee" at least? It could include "recycling", and how the Sonichu's and Rosechu's biology is not something that could live in any world real or pokemon without becoming extinct in less than 100 years.

P.S. Sorry if it comes out awkward. this is my first post and i'm still not completely used to the format.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== PVCC Registration ==

Excuse my bothering you via the CWCki but I submitted a registration for the PVCC and I'm just posting here to let you know it's me and not some troll. I was mainly interested in just finding and updating some article citations on the CWCki using posts from the PVCC - some of which currently link to the old PVCC forum. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I have also submitted a registration so that I can start making good edits to this wki, but I also understand that in the past you've grown to hate a few new members here or there, so I understand if I'm not approved.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 20:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Yet another person who registered in vain. On "CWCki is" it says the CWCki is not a forum. The PVCC should be the forum for CWCkians (I refuse to use the term CWCkipedians). #sonichu is not a forum but a chat room, and /cwc/ seems to be regarded as a lesser community from what I gathered. Is there some sort of elitism in keeping the PVCC locked away from anyone new? --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 05:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*it's not like there's anything worth joining for, it's barely about chris anymore. the reason why nobody new is allowed in is because they wouldn't fit in and it's a pain to deal with people making accounts all the time that will never be approved. regards the cwcki having some sort of forum, i guess the community portal should really be sorted into more of a... well, portal. your edit has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. thank you for your time and efforts. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 00:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*So it's now all in-jokes and such now? Makes me even sadder to be a n00b, then. I'm always late to anything good. Might as well make whatever Chris-related stuff there freely viewable, then, and then have private sub-forums for the in-jokes. As Anonymax said, some citations link to the PVCC.

Also, the Community Portal seems like a CWCki-wide version of the discussion pages, which are meant to be strictly for improving the content of the page. I was looking for a place to intelligently (read: without clowns screaming "Dig up Patti!" and "JULAY!") discuss Chris. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 02:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==Contacting the Wallflower==
In light of Chris dropping her full name on the Cwcipedia, do you think it'd be a good idea to let the Wallflower know that Chris is putting information up on her? It looks like he may even make a full page dedicated to her. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==Wallflower Policy==

Hi Cogs. Since [[user:Ronichu|newfags]] and [[user:Ronichu|retards]] keep constantly asking about it, I've drafted a section which I've termed "The Wallflower Policy". Can you approve, ammend or reject it for the main Wallflower page? It's at [[Talk:The_Wallflower#Stating CWCki Policy]].

== What is your problem? ==
What are you doing Cogs? What have you got against me? I don't like Chris or Sonichu beyond anyone else here, I don't do any of the furry sex stuff that Sonichu and the others do, and I haven't taken any of this twitter crap onto the CWCki. All I do is fuck around a few minutes day making jokes about killing Sonichu's kids. Why is this necessary? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
* you fly with the crows, you get tarred with the same brush. or however that saying goes. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
**Is there anything I can do to get that removed? I don't want to cause a big argument on here and I don't want to be involved in the whole Twitter thing if its going to cause all this. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
***Yeah, I'm with Edward. Anything that can get us started on the road to redemption? My Twitter accounts have been dead for 2 days now (since YawningSquirtleRedux warned me to stay away from them), and my Twitter days are over and done with. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 17:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect problem. ==

I can't access any cogsdev.org sites from my home internet. It says there's some sort of redirect problem. Is there anything you can do to fix this?

Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*your IP probably got blocked for spamming requests. wait for your IP to change, and in future, don't use firefox --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*It's not Firefox to blame. I was using Chrome before I had problems. I suspect it's a rare server error and the page which handles the error message for it causes the large amount of requests. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Well it's working now. The firefox message mentioned looping requests, but in the future I can use Chrome, if you think that'll help.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::*The redirect loop is probably how the server handles blocks. I'm still unsure as to why there is a mass of requests being sent to the server - apparently before we encounter the redirect loop. I ended up blocked due to request spam - and I wasn't using Firefox. --01:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== sorry about rolling back that edit ==

chrome decided it didn't want to redraw itself anymore --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== I beg forgiveness ==

I will pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I understand what I must not do. This will carry over into future operations and circumstances. What can I do to prove my loyalty to the motherland?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*quit bein a fag --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 08:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
**understood.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== About deleting that template ==

I know what I did really lacked good judgment and I apologize for acting like an idiot. I should have waited for an admin's opinion before doing anything. If you give me back my jerkop status, I can guarantee such thing will not happen again. --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 15:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
* ask champthom in a week or so, tell him i said you could have your jerkop status back then --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:*OK, thanks.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 16:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

==My case for keeping Afternoon around==
I hate to bother you, but I think it's only fair that you hear my defense of ''Afternoon'' before it gets axed. I really don't think it fits any of the criteria you define as bad fanworks. It's not my attempt at rewriting ''Sonichu''; I don't retread any of the plot. Kitty isn't an original character. I know that she acts wildly out of her original characterization in my story, but that's true of most fanwork. Even the great ''Sonichu is Dead'' had the title character behaving completely different from how Chris writes him. And Kitty isn't my fursona; I'm not a furry and I have no fursona. I know I've semi-jokingly described her as a bit of a Sue in past, but I just meant that she was fun to write. ''Afternoon'' isn't some kind of power fantasy; it's just about torturing Chris's least popular characters for the amusement of the readers. If you still think it's not relevant to the wiki or that Chris's own role in it isn't big enough, I'll respect your decision and take the thing elsewhere. I just wanted you to hear my side of the story. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==I need something answered...==
Chris has been very quite lately. So I want to do something to piss him off and get him back on [[Youtube]]. Something so original, not even the [[Clyde Cash|King of Trolling]] himself could of thought up. So here is the big question: What hasn't any troll done or would think of doing that would effect Chris to the point of yelling at a camera?

[[User:Galaxyguy159|GalaxyGuy159]]
*First of all, sign your posts properly. It's 4 tildes (~) after your post. Secondly, this is not a trolling site. This is a site to document Chris' actions. If you want a trolling base, go elsewhere. Finally, if there were something someone thought of to get Chris back, they would either A: Execute the plan him/herself, B: Give the plan to a more experienced troll, or C: Give the plan to a trusted FA. Any way you look at it, the plan wouldn't be put on a wiki and it wouldn't be given to an inexperienced member, which includes not only you, but almost everyone on this wiki (e.g. me). [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 18:35, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:*The above is FACT. Also, the best trolls don't plan on trolling. Asperchu was just a couple of oneoffs, for instance, and Liquid never imagined things would get as big as they did. If you want my tip, TRY things. People will call you a faggot, but that's because until something works all plans SOUND retarded because nobody aside from Chris would ever fall for them. So, in short, DO IT FAGGOT, don't be afraid to try things but don't fuck with other trolls plans, and lurk more. And... Yeah. This isn't a trolling place, only for documenting, so take your questions elsewhere in the future. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:50, 2 August 2010 (PDT)

== Favicon ==

Cogs, any way we could get a favicon for the CWCki? Like, maybe a brown and yellow Pokeball? We can solicit suggestions from users, but it'd help to ask you first if that's something you could do.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:54, 23 August 2010 (PDT)

== CWCipedia archive ==

*As I am dealing with the 110mb external links, I found that this archived version of CWCipedia includes unreverted vandalism on March, such as those on the [http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_51 mailbag] pages, is it supposed to be so? Regards, [[User:Nechita|Nechita]] 02:48, 24 August 2010 (PDT)

== PVCC registration ==

I know that many people are being annoying by reregistering, but you really shouldn't completely disable registration, as there are some people (including me) that would be a good addition to the forum that are shut out by this. Not sure if the forum software allows for this, but maybe you could disable registering more than once per person (possibly by ip adress and/or cookies?) [[User:Sodahollic|Sodahollic]] 14:40, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
*Registration of accounts is done on a basis of time spent hanging around IRC and your behavior there, contribution to the CWCki, or at the discretion of the forum admins. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 16:16, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== What? ==

My parents are divorced..so yeah, I live in ND some of the time and VA the rest...though it is true that I no longer work at Wal-Mart (as of about 3 weeks ago).
--[[User:Kitsune|Kitsune]] 13:41, 23 December 2010 (PST)

==Denouncing past faggotry==

Hello Cogs, long time no see. I just wanted to apologize for this past drama involving Legi0n and other sites I would rather not get into. I've had some time away from the CWCki to rethink my poor choices in judgement, and I just wanted to say that I'm willing to get off to a fresh start to benefit this site, as well as its users. I cannot promise anything to you, but the most I can do is try so that nothing like what I caused in the past ever happens again. I am sincerely sorry, and I will do my best to stay out of everyone's way in the future. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 09:33, 10 February 2011 (PST)
*Cogs has had some "away time" too. Three edits since September, and the last one was a month ago. Champ's the only active admin. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(Talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|(Contributions)]] 09:37, 10 February 2011 (PST)

==I'm not sure if I can do this but==

I'd like to contest the blocks of Ror and Pfargtl9000 (sorry, Goatselover, but you don't do much) on the grounds that Ror has a Gold Star Bounty and a Requested Template Award (both of which prove that he's useful and is here to contribute) and because Pfargtl9000 has nearly 2,500 edits spanning over a year. They both are useful to the wiki and I think blocking them for a year for holding an opinion/misconception (especially when the wiki is already sieving veteran editors) is counterproductive. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 10:28, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* this wiki is overmaintained, i don't really care --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:53, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

==ThePCAssassins Prank Calls Page==
Other than the obvious exploitation of CWC for eFame is there any reason why the prank calls shouldn't be recorded here? Sure, most of the information is irrelevant or we already know about the so called insights Bob gives but I'm sure eventually something good might come of it. Probably. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 05:51, 19 May 2011 (PDT)
* no [[User:Sully|Sully]] 20:12, 19 May 2011 (PDT)

== Publishing a book about Chris Chan ==

I was wondering if you would be interested in possibly working together in publishing a book about Chris Chan, based on content from this website. I am part of a small publishing company. I saw the public domain status of this website, though writing a book is still something I would want to be a joint effort. If this website accepts donations, I could donate part of any money I receive, though I can't really negotiate anything formal.

Please let me know what you think. I think a book about Chris Chan would be pretty epic.

:[[User:Publisher|Publisher]] 08:52, 17 November 2011 (PST)
*She's going to say no. Don't even bother. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:25, 18 November 2011 (PST)

==PS3 Browsing==

I mainly browse this wiki on a PS3 (im not chris, honest) but to view pages you must select 'printable version' as 2 thick blocks cover the pages text/videos, some other wikis do this but ED doesnt and nor does TOW, could you by any chance look into sorting this out, ta very much, Mr MellowColo(u)r

== We cant upload this stuff onto this website ==

Because it has now become clear that chris himself regularly checks up on the cwcki for updates, so whenever we upload anything new about him, chris WILL realise that people as far as singapore have found out about his private information.
So in order to keep new comic pages and updates coming, we cant upload them onto the CWCki
:Ok, first things; sign your post. There's a little button for it, or it's jutst -- <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> right after (no spaces). I know no one likes to read the rules and policies stuff, but seriously, this one is obvious. Second thing: do you honestly think Chris is working on the comics anymore?? If you do, you obviously do not know Chris at all... Third: If you posted this just so Chris will see it (for whatever reason you want him to see it) and think it will do anything... You obviously do not know Chris at all. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:45, 15 April 2012 (PDT)

== CWCki Forums ==

It's spergcityzone.forumer.com. spergcentral is a forum set up by some butthurt people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:25, 22 January 2013 (PST)

==Editing Locked?==

For some reason, editing seems to be disabled for all of the articles? If I may ask, how come? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 20:23, 28 January 2013 (PST)
*Short answer - because somebody's making a shitton of new accounts and if I had to hazard a guess, they're planning on ban evading.

:Long answer - it's getting more and more difficult to monitor the CWCki. There was a recent incident where someone vandalized the CWCki and it took two days before a jerkop or admin noticed. I think the easy solution here was to close editing. I really don't think we're missing out on much, I think it's extremely unlikely that someone will come up with some new perspective that can totally change the tone of an article. The "of the Now" articles seem to be open for editing, that's the big thing, maybe "Da update" can be open for editing and maybe get [[2013]] open for editing. I think that's all we really need.

:If you feel passionate about it, bring it up on the community portal and if enough people feel it, I suppose we could reverse it. But like I said, it's not like we have a lot of people editing the CWCki now. Maybe one day Chris will make a dramatic comeback and it'll make sense to have the CWCki open for editing but in the meantime, I don't think it makes much sense.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:05, 29 January 2013 (PST)

** Well, yeah, I suppose that makes sense. To be totally honest, though, I doubt there will be anything significant fron Chris at all until his parole ends. Thanks for filling me in. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 20:10, 29 January 2013 (PST)

==Chris is active again==

He's whining about Tara Strong supporting the trolls on his Facebook page. Also, I noticed that somebody updated the 'Quotes of the Day' with Chris Chan saying 'Fuck off, fuck face', but there's no screenshot uploaded to prove he said that. Why aren't any updates made regarding this? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 09:58, 3 March 2013 (PST)

:Check the forums! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] 18:35, 6 March 2013 (PST)

-- The forums? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 20:40, 13 March 2013 (PDT)

==Mockumentary/Documentary==

So I don't know if this interests you, or anyone else for that matter, but within the next year and a half me and my joy-boy (a fellow frequenter of the CWCki) are going to be heading up to Virginia to check out Ruckersville and Charlottesville. We're going to try to get interviews with Michael Snyder, Officer Bagget, Mary Lee Walsh; maybe even the big man himself, GodJesus willing.
We're going to start working on it as soon as possible, and if anyone would like to contribute, contact me at (I'll have an e-mail set up in a day or two).

Thanks! --[[User:Beelzepup|Beelzepup]] 11:34, 17 October 2014 (CST)

== If you are alive, I have a problem ==

http://i.imgur.com/jWIlW3Y.png

==Unable to Donate?==
Hi there, I was planning to chip into the tugboat, but PayPal wouldn't let me do it through my account. I tried clicking on the link to the cwcki PayPal website too, but it redirected me back to the main page :/.

--[[User:Camille|Camille]] 9:54, 07 October 2017 (PST)

Cog's hasn't been active in years. Ask [[User:Canine|Canine]] about it. --[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 05:00, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Ok,Thanks. -Camille

User talk:Canine

2017-10-08T05:47:18Z

Camille:

==what==
*** USAJAP1 was kicked by canine (what is this i don't even)
!!! You have been kicked from #sonichu
huh --[[User:USAJAP1|USAJAP1]] 17:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)

Hey Canine. Sorry about being a tard on IRC. I guess you guys are right, I'll just continue transcribing Mumbles from now on. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 08:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

*Please delete my account. medic is here, canine is a faggot --[http://http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/User:Gamer_Paulo Gamer Paulo] What the hell are these? Some words? 03:45, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

==IM==

I have some pressing business that I was referred by [[User:Champthom|Champthom]] to you on. Do you have MSN or AIM by any chance? This kind of needs to be kept off the talkpages/IRC.--[[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]][[User:Anon1Guardian|DrSerbia]][[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]] 04:28, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
* Uhhh, you can PM me on IRC. Is that a problem? [[User:Canine|Canine]] 02:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== I been personally hired by Chris ==

To ensure an attack on your wiki is inevitable. You have made great injustices by trolling and harassing this man, but the kind Pickbothmanlol will not tolerate your bullshit. Tell Clyde Cash that I want him to personally e-mail me at my talk page. [[User:Omegaforce|Omegaforce]] 18:57, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:Tanaithetraitor and I will ensure that Clyde Cash talks to us or the wiki will undergo a seige. [[User:Omegaforce|Omegaforce]] 18:59, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
::RED White Knight is in the base! We gotta protect the suitcase! --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:04, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:::'kay [[User:Canine|Canine]] 19:07, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:::: whatever... [[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 19:30, 6 September 2010 (PDT)
:Chris use his tugboat for something other than PSN shit and fast food? That is a good one. [[User:RobGoblin|RobGoblin]] 07:09, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

I smell bullshit... I think it's coming from Omegaforce -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 07:25, 7 September 2010 (PDT)

So, Chris hired Omega to be his personal ass-kisser and white knight? Talk about desperation...[[User:KickBackDude34|KickBackDude34]] ([[User talk:KickBackDude34|talk]]) 21:30, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== You are Fan-Freaking-Tastic ==

I don't know how you do all the stuff you do! I just thought you should get some appreciation for all your hard work within these past few hours (as well as these past few days, weeks, months, etc). I don't know how that person managed to do all the stuff/blanking they did, but you seem to be on the ball and made it look easy to fix (though I'm sure it's extremely time consuming). I just wanted to say Thanks for being fan-freaking-tastic...so THANKS! <3 --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:12, 31 December 2010 (PST)
: Haha, uhh, thanks. I mean, when people vandalize shit, there's a handy little revert link. So I can just go down the line reverting everything. Not too hard. But thanks anyway. Heh. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 13:05, 2 January 2011 (PST)

== Get out of bed! ==

''[walks into Canine's bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' I'm Snuffleupagus! Get out of bed! ''[pokes Canine with snuffle, Canine jumps out of bed]'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 14:47, 9 January 2011 (PST)

== I rock ice ==

[[File:Trollface More HD.png|400px]]
Bling-bling bling-bling --[[User:Dankechu|Dankechu]] 16:21, 6 February 2011 (PST)
:Shrunk it, it was too big. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 17:13, 6 February 2011 (PST)

==Unblock==
Thanks man. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 05:53, 17 February 2011 (PST)

==Panic==
Canine, could you blank my post on the Tomgirl Forum's talk page? It mentions Kim and I don't want Chris up and deciding that she's a slanderous troll (if he hasn't already, I wouldn't know). Thanks. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 02:05, 21 July 2011 (PDT)
*You're the best. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 05:23, 21 July 2011 (PDT)

Oh, another thing. There are quite a few new users. I suspect that they're all from the one IP address. You're probably aware of this. I have to trust that you guys know what you're doing but I fear a shitstorm's brewing. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 20:29, 21 July 2011 (PDT)

==Stop this==
That was a genuine drawing by christian weston chandler, there is no point in proving it fake [[User:Some|Some]]
:What? [[User:Canine|Canine]] 14:46, 23 December 2011 (PST)
::of course it was real, why did you delete it?-Some
:::You're not convincing anyone, goddamn. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 21:01, 10 January 2012 (PST)

== Hey ==

You [[:File:Cwc3.png|missed]] a [[:File:Cwc4.png|spot]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 10:33, 3 April 2012 (PDT)
:Oh [[User:Canine|Canine]] 12:09, 3 April 2012 (PDT)

== Appealing a Ban on the Forum ==

What is the proper procedure for appealing a ban on the CWCki forum?
:Beats me. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 18:17, 5 June 2012 (PDT)

== PVCC ==

How do I join PVCC? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] 23:15, 16 July 2012 (PDT)

== Spammers/Bots ==

The following accounts should be blocked:

*WilliamStephens (spammed a link on the Chris and Hypocrisy talk page)
*BernieceN (spammer on [http://musowiki.org/index.php/User:BernieceN another wiki])
*HowardHut (spammer on [http://wiki.zelda-solarus.com/index.php?title=Utilisateur:HowardHut another wiki])
*YvonneTHK (spammer on [http://www.ifnipedia.es/index.php?title=Usuario:YvonneThk another wiki])

That is all for now. [[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:15, 12 February 2013 (PST)

Thank you![[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 08:47, 13 February 2013 (PST)
:Sure [[User:Canine|Canine]] 11:45, 13 February 2013 (PST)

One more: TracieFlo (spammer on [http://www.bleachonline.de/wiki/index.php/Benutzer:TracieFlo other] [http://opensnom.org/index.php/User:TracieFlo wikis])[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 08:58, 20 February 2013 (PST)

== Wiki archive ==

Hello, I noticed there has not been much activity recently on this site, and I was wondering if you could do a backup of the CWCki wiki and release it for download, (or host on Mega or TPB.) Since there is a lot of information on this site, I would hate to see it disappear one day. --[[User:CrackRabbit|CrackRabbit]] 19:45, 18 February 2013 (PST)

== Reenable editing ==

I see account creation has been disabled and you're merging all the spam accounts. Would you be able to reenable editing for non-Jerkops or is Cogsdev the only one who can do that? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] 00:55, 18 March 2013 (PDT)

:Yeah, I can do that and I eventually plan to do that. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:48, 18 March 2013 (PDT)

==Savanah Chandler Messages==
I wanted to add these http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/thumb/3/3a/Savannah_chandler.png/ to the [[facebook]] page and put up transcripts of them. As you can see from my edit history I am not a spambot, could you enable editing for me?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:28, 23 March 2013 (PDT)
:I was actually just about to reenable editing in general. And... I just did. So, go, go and edit to the extreme! [[User:Canine|Canine]] 11:10, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
::Is editing supposed to be open to all registered users? Cause I still can't edit articles. I think that my previous edits show that I'm a legitimate contributor, can you please enable editing for me? Plus I suggest you shut down editing for non-registered users, some anonymous IP user did some vandalism that I had to revert. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 15:35, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
:::Shit, yeah, I fucked up. Ok, fixed. But yeah, you still can't edit? [[User:Canine|Canine]] 15:47, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
::::I can edit user and talk pages but the articles are still blocked to me. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 16:33, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
:::::Huh, weird. According to both the settings and the [[Special:ListGroupRights|ListGroupRights page]], users should be able to edit. I'll look into it. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 17:17, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
::::::I think I've got it working. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 17:33, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
:::::::It's all good now, thanks for the help. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 02:32, 25 March 2013 (PDT)

== Kacey date ==

Was Kacey's description of her meetup with Chris where he was really handsy ever confirmed? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 14:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:There's a description of the meetup floating around somewhere. Indeed, it's legit. I think Kacey might've been exaggerating and/or misinterpreting some of Chris' behavior though. Fatty's pretty gross and creepy, but specifically trying to grab her tits? I don't know about that one...

:Otherwise it's a good picture of Chris' behavior. [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 16:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== Kathleen ==

Why are you replacing her name with an image of it all of a sudden? It's not like she knows or cares about her portrayal in the comics. [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 23:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:She does indeed know and care. That's why I'm making these changes. Also, do you mind if I change the section name to just Kathleen? [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 23:17, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
::Source? Also, I don't give a shit about the name of the section. [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 23:25, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:::I was contacted by JKH on the subject. He asked politely. Kathleen's a pretty minor character, all things considered and Chris only mentioned her directly a few times. I'm going to censor anything outright, but replacing the occasional mention of her name (I think I counted two) with an image is a reasonable compromise. I renamed her article to Kathleen and changed the relevant links. [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 23:47, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Why not just replace her name with 'Kat' or something? - [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 1:37, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
:My goals were to make it difficult to search for her full name and happen upon the cwcki page, but to also keep as much direct Chris content intact as possible. I just cut her name down to Kathleen whenever it's mentioned in cwcki commentary. Chris quoted her name directly twice. I don't really want to redact things Chris himself wrote, if possible, so I replaced those instances with images. I only counted two of those. [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 00:48, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

==Possibly Lock the A-Logging Page==
A CWCki user (Hagibor on the CWCki, Henry Panfil on YouTube) is sperging out because he got added to the A-Logging Wall of Shame (I mean, if asking Chris to cut his balls of on camera isn't A-Logging then I don't know what is). Now he keeps vandalizing the Page. I keep trying to undo it, but to no avail. If I fucked up by adding somebody without being an admin, I apologize. [[User:Newwaveknight|Newwaveknight]] ([[User talk:Newwaveknight|talk]]) 03:47, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

==Unable to Donate?==
Hi there, I was planning to chip into the tugboat, but PayPal wouldn't let me do it through my account. I tried clicking on the link to the cwcki PayPal website too, but it redirected me back to the main page.

--[[User:Camille|Camille]] 10:36, 07 October 2017 (PDT)

User talk:Canine

2017-10-08T05:29:49Z

Camille:

User talk:Cogsdev

2017-10-08T04:54:06Z

Camille:

{{protip|COGSDEV SAYS: account creation [for [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]]] totally disabled for now because i'm getting tired of people registering over and over thinking it'll get them approved faster 

if your account was deactivated and you want it back, don't ask me on my cwcki talk page, ask someone in the [[IRC:Contents|irc channel]] 

<center>and sign your god damn edits</center>}}

'''Be sure to read the archives before posting.'''

[[User:Cogsdev/Archive 1]]

==A few things==
I've been helping [[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] with image optimization, and in the process, I've come across a few things.
# Wondering if I could have file deletion privileges, so Fs doesn't have to keep checking my userpage and deleting everything for me?
#Is there an "images marked for deletion" tag or something, so we can discuss and get rid of files that don't serve any purpose here? [[:Image:LoriLopez.jpg|Example]] (Uploaders may dispute/defend the merit of the image if they wish.)
#I'm thinking maybe we should have a limit to the number of 'vanity' images you can upload for (specifically) your userpage.
#Similarly, it seems a lot of people upload their fanart just to share it, but they only put it in [[:Category:Fan art]] and don't link it anywhere else. I'm pretty sure CWCki isn't intended to be a dump-all for CWC-related art. That's what [[ED]] (lol) and [[DeviantArt]] are for. And the torrent.
#Lastly, is it really necessary to keep the userpages of vandals like [[User:Sean Connery]] and [[User:CWCki is Communism]]? Couldn't we just delete them and then block them from re-creation?
--[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 20:14, 6 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Not to be rude, but allow me to answer some of these:
:#I'll think about it. There's already a lot of admins/jerkops and most of them really don't need to do anything, even in a case of vandalism.
:#Just use the regular deletion tag, that works fine.
:#I think most people are good about vanity images. If there's someone who abuses this, an admin or jerkop can say something.
:#The whole idea of the Fan index is to provide a place for people to display their Sonichu/Chris related fan art where people will notice it (as opposed to being drowned in a sea of Sonic recolors on DeviantArt) since PVCC has closed account registration and that's where most people would go to post their fan art. Ideally, we should find ways to incorporate fan art into articles.
:#Eh, it's a good way to shame them. If it gets to be a problem, we'll delete them then.
:Okay, that's all I can think of for now since I need to get some sleep. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:56, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
::*On the note of number 5, I think posting a message saying "BANNED" like we have is sufficient. It's not necessary to make a tribute like [[ED]] or a [http://wiki.patrioticnigras.org/wiki/User:Lolatthefactyouthinkyoucanstopme total Arc De Fail like we do on the Patriotic Nigra Wiki.]--[[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]] [[User:Anon1Guardian|DrSerbia]][[image:datass.jpg|40px]] 05:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

==Resource Leak==
I could be wrong, but it seems that thumbnails aren't auto-generated. Rather, they are stored server-side for use in a page. The problem is, the thumbnails are horrible space wasters.
[[:Image:Soldier of Love and Honesty.png|This image]] is 11.4kb, however, the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/images/thumb/b/b9/Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png/200px-Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png 200px thumbnail] is 77.6 kb! This seems to be caused by the severe artifacting of the white background in the thumbnail. I don't know if there's anything you can do about this, but I thought I'd let you know. The original image could actually be trimmed to a 200px width without losing any of the art itself. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 23:00, 17 October 2009 (CEST)
*yeah, it's an issue with the image library we're using. i don't think there's really anything i can do about that, but i wouldn't worry too much, we should have more than enough space to accommodate thumbnails. i really do wish we could use imagemagick, though, so we wouldn't have this problem... --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 23:13, 17 October 2009 (CEST)

==Destin==
I made a mistake and misread Destin's edits. I have already apologized to him. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 11:13, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

== My Ban ==

First things first, I suppose. I'll say that I do feel kind of bad about how I reacted to your claims yesterday, Ms. Dev. My reaction was unncessarily aggressive, and I certainly could have defended myself in a much more appropriate way. So, I'm sorry. I apologize for my unruly response and my claim that you and your co-mods had failed.

However, I'm not quite finished with what I have to say. I find it kind of asinine that you banned me, and ''then'' you came to my discussion page to apologize to me. While I would like to accept your apology, doing that makes it awful difficult for me to take your apology seriously. I accept FS's, and I would accept Champ's, too, if he gave one (though he doesn't really have much to apologize for), but that's because they didn't go ahead and ban me before apologizing.

That said, I think your reaction to ''my reaction'' is fairly ridiculous, too. You make little sense, and I think you merely banned me because you didn't like being told off. You claim that this Wiki is to document Chris, not mock him? Straight from the article entitled "A Quick Guide to CWCki":

"So, you wish to edit the wiki on the Internet's most beloved and most hated autistic manchild?"

This isn't mocking? After reading that, I clicked the "random page" button twice, and I ended up on the page called "CWCipedia", and found the sentence "CWCipedia also serves as the ultimate test of the use of MediaWiki software and software usability, in which it strives to create a platform that even a autistic manchild/lazy fuck can easily use." After reading something like that, I think it's an exceptional load of crap that you're trying to act like this site is designed to document him. It's designed to have laughs at his expense, and you know damn well that it is.

And why should you care if ''I'' bash him, anyway? After, I'm merely adding to the humor of the site and doing what I'm encouraged to do in the "Quick Guide" section named "POV is the norm" where it says:

"CWCki's guide is to document the Internet phenomena of Chris-chan for troll purposes. Given that the manchild has clearly shown to be racist, homophobic, and just plain perverted, not to mention he proclaims himself to be some sort of celebrity, it's only fair he gets the negative criticism that comes with being a celebrity.

So go ahead, bash him."

As I've pointed out, you don't stop anyone else. In fact, you encourage them. Well, in all fairness, I won't repeat the mistake that you made with me, and, as a result, I won't claim that you wrote that, considering that the history of the page seems to suggest otherwise. But... you don't seem to mind your co-moderators writing it in as a policy for ''your Wiki''.

Anyway, I made a Chris-bashing edit to a page (which no on else deemed irrelevant enough to have it removed), and, after a load of drama, I'm in the wrong for making that edit? That's horse shit. On top of claiming that you're not here to mock him (which I've already refuted, as far as I'm concerned), you say that I should make more relevant edits. That's also horse shit. I have no obligation to you to make edits how ''you'' see fit. You put people under no obligation to edit the things you want editted whom simply read the Wiki and lurk. But, when people come along, and stop lurking for a bit to add to the humor of the site, they automatically become your minions? That's bullshit. I have no more or less obligation to you than the average lurker; you don't pay me, you don't give me ''exceptional'' priveleges, and I don't want you to do either. I just want to have some fun here and enjoy the site, and my enjoyment doesn't seem to have detracted from the goal of the Wiki in any way. CWCki really isn't serious business, and I'm sure you don't need me to explain that to you. So... I fail to accept the idea that my edit was not acceptable by your Wiki's standards. As I said earlier, I think you're just making stuff up to justify banning me for telling you off.

All-in-all, my point is this: on top of the fact that your reasons for banning me seem to be either petty, hyprocritical, or both, you're also not going to stop me from making edits to your Wiki by banning me. I'm not even writing these from my normal residence. Plus, there are plenty of proxies, and there are many of other places I can go to get new IPs and make edits, if I so desire. So... we can come to terms on this, and move on, or we can keep playing the pointless ban game, and, well, I'm done rambling here for now. It's your turn to play.

D-Dizzle, fa reeeeel
--[[User:RevengeOfTheDestinMan|RevengeOfTheDestinMan]] 21:01, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*well, three things to note, then:
# [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_not_ED]]. we aren't here to mock, we're here to let chris speak for himself.
# as you said, it's my wiki. so, i determine what is acceptable and what is not. i didn't have a problem with you, until you decided to disregard my advice, and told me that you'd continue making what are ultimately pointless edits. i don't like making things into serious business, but when you start being deliberately annoying, then we have a problem.
# i won't look around for any new accounts you make on proxies, but i will be banning this one for ban evasion. you were banned for being a faggot. sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here". if you want your first account unbanned, do something to impress champthom and then ask him nicely
so long as you aren't being a vandal or a faggot, we won't have any further problems. now stop acting like you have any rights around here, it's my site and i'll do whatever the fuck i want to do --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 21:52, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*
# You and I both know that this one isn't true. That's why this Wiki exists while CWCipedia exists. In fact, I remember reading about that somewhere on this site, probably on the CWCipedia page, but I don't care enough to wave it in your face, because we all know that this was made so Chris ''wouldn't'' get to always have his say. ...Quit trying to pass this off as some noble effort.
# I disregarded your advice because it was unwarranted. You have no ''logical'' grounds (though powertrip grounds may apply) to expect some random person to edit things pages that you want them to. Also, as I said, you defy logic by only seeming to care when ''I'' make minor edits, and never when anyone else does. Anyway, why the hell would I want to make major contributions when I get bitched at for making meager efforts? And... as for me being deliberately annoying... honestly? I was refuting the accusations of you and two other moderators. Is it really so annoying to point out that you guys made a mistake? Or was it my irritated tone that was so annoying (and that only occurred once)? Now, I can be a real son of a bitch asshole fucktard vandal if I want to be. I won't. I'm not that way, so I'll spare you and your mods the tedium of chasing through articles to fix edits, but you find me (though angrily) telling you that you were wrong in accusing me to be annoying? Yeah, I guess maybe it ''is'' annoying to realize that you made a mistake, and that this person isn't being totally pleasant with you about it, but there are ways to deal with annoyances (especially fairly minor ones) that are far more logical than banning the person responsible. Yes, I know you have the grand power to kick people off of your Wiki, but, again, I ask that you consider this in ''logical'' terms, where banning people for minor annoyances makes for a tense community. Now, since we've already discussed your amount of power, I suppose you can have a tense community if you really want one, but I doubt you really do want that, and you're only making things worse by the way you keep acting about this. I was hoping you wouldn't react like this to my post here, but... you do make things ever so complicated for both of us....
# 'sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here".' As I thought I made clear, I'm sorry about "telling you off". There's no need to bring that up any more. I'm sorry about it. Chiding me more for it doesn't make me any more sorry. I admit that that was my mistake. However, I think you're confused if you think I was doing it to have some fun. When I was talking about having fun here, I was talking about my edit to the video. I don't bitch at people for fun. Well... maybe... but not in this case. And, yes, you're right. I have no rights here. However, I merely suggest that maybe you treat people as though they do have some rights. It's just a suggestion. It makes your place more enjoyable for everyone, though maybe you don't care about that so much. Once I get back to my normal residence, though, I can easily circumvent your system without you ever realizing. And, in spite of all your hateful rage and rights-denying, I can actually become a valid member of your Wiki (if I actually wanted that). Hell, I could become your best friend if I really wanted to. Imagine that! Me and you, total pals! What a tight-knit posse we could make! Oh, the adventures we'd have! Games of kickball at the park. Tossing a frisbee in a field! Raiding caves for secret treasure! Why, we'd be like Bonnie and Clyde (Cash). Really, imagine that! That's how close we could get, without you ever realizing (though... don't take this the wrong way; I worry that I'm starting to sound like Chris). You get my point... well... assuming you understand that these sentences are drenched with sarcasm. So, yes, do as you please, but your efforts to ban me are pointless, and I really think it's very much in your benefit to act a bit more rationally here, because I really don't think that continuing to ban me and chide me is going to make you look better. I mean... banning me for ban evasion of a ban that I didn't deserve in the first place doesn't really make sense. Please, just think about it a bit. G'day, ma'am. --[[User:MoreDestination|MoreDestination]] 22:29, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*Sweet Jesus, why didn't you just let it go. Now you are starting some talkpage war over a privately owned wiki about a retarded manchild cause you disagree about how a misunderstanding was handled. Do you want to edit or not? You either edit here and have fun with us or fuck off. Most people find the process pretty simple: Document Chris while being factual yet snarky. Is that so hard? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:40, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*There's subtle mocking which is what we do, versus outright "DO IT FOR THE LULZ" sort of mocking ED does. CWCki is relied upon moreso than ED because we don't so much go out of our way to be funny, we focus more on documenting and in documenting Chris, we mock him by pointing out his personal flaws and how fucked up he is. It's a different sort of humor.
:Really, people (and I'm addressing this not just to Destin but everyone reading this), if you ever feel angry about something on CWCki, shut off your computer and take a walk or at least play a game or something like that. Then remind yourself you're getting angry over a wiki about an autistic manchild.
:If this is over the "Jew" thing in [[I Love You Kacey]], I'll tell you what I object about it - it is making a misleading transcript to make a nod at someone. If Chris actually said "Jew," that's alright and yes, Chris does have a tendency to slur "you" so it sounds like "jew" because he's attempting to say "you' in a cutsy way. But that's kinda overdoing it. Maybe if Chris actually says Jew, then it'd be an appropriate nod - it's like how there's an Anonymous quote which the link of Anonymous links to our [[User:Anonymous|beloved #1 user]] (seriously, he's the only dude who registered before me but after cogs).
:Words of wisdom - don't mess with cogs, anyone who knows her well like I do would advise similarly. Ultimately, it's her website and she has the final say. I don't always agree with cogs but I do respect her decisions as founder and I generally avoid trying to undo what she does because that would set a bad precedent. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:15, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Okay, I forgot about Fuckingstupid saying he made a mistake. I've made a similar mistake too before about accusing someone for a bad edit. It happens, we're only human. But really, don't freak out - just say "I believe you're mistaken" and show them. Bitching only makes things worse and makes people less sympathetic to your case, even if you are right. In any case, I wanted to air about the Jew thing.
::Likewise, this is in general, let's try and not bite people's head off in letting them know about bad edits. [[Wikipedia:Don't_bite_the_newcomer|This]] is a decent guide at Wikipedia's approach at this sort of thing and I think it's alright. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:22, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:::*Exactly, I made a mistake and now we are all paying for it. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:34, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

*destin, you don't quite seem to understand a simple rule of the internet. i own this website. therefore, any ban i hand out is justified, no matter what you might think. rather than bitching on and on about how it's an unjust ban and evading and so forth, you should instead be accepting the ban as valid and working to correct your behaviour, if you wish to contribute. i've told you already: if you give us something useful, we'll unban you. simple, right? we've discussed this more than enough. any further comments from you will be considered vandalism and reverted. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:05, 25 October 2009 (CET)

:*You should have a ban evasion sub-page so the rest of us don't have to scroll through this tl;dr nonsense lol --15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Request ==
A friend of mine was interesting in joing the PVCC.
So, can he join?--[[User:Gourmetpickle|Gourmetpickle]] 22:27, 26 October 2009 (CET)
*probably not, i don't know who he is --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:59, 26 October 2009 (CET)

== How about all videos in one template? ==

There are 4 or so right now. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:56, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*wha...? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 18:01, 28 October 2009 (CET)

Captain's log, game videos, other vides, music videos, I'm on TV. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:14, 28 October 2009 (CET)

:*Sonijew, that's the big plan I was hinting at before when I responded to your complaint over me splitting off the game videos. Have patience! I'm working on just such a template piece-by-piece! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 18:42, 28 October 2009 (CET)

== Hi, regarding renaming/recategorizing pages ==

[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009]] should be [[Gaybian videos]] and in Clyde Cash videos. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:27, 31 October 2009 (CET)

And the similar thing for [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009]] too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:46, 31 October 2009 (CET)

:*I'll see what I can zap up for ya... :3 [[User:Llort|Llort]] 19:19, 31 October 2009 (CET)

[[Captain's Log, Stardate January 12th, 2009]] is no Captain's Log too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:42, 3 November 2009 (CET)

==Re; player plugin==
[[Image:Awesome micro.png|Awesome]], I'll get to work on gathering clips and putting together a tutorial page. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Cogs ==

Ahoy, I want to finally join PVCC in the interest of gathering more information to help me write moar CWCki, and I figured you were the one to pester about how to go about doing this. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:10, 7 November 2009 (CET)
*Unless account activation just ''happens'' to be totally deactivated which I now notice at the top of the page. FML --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:12, 7 November 2009 (CET)

==Succession template==

The changes that you made to [[Template:Succession]] caused existing instances of the template to stop functioning properly. I tried a couple times to remove what looked to me to be redundant or erroneous code, but I still couldn't get the template working again. Do you think you might be able to fix whatever went haywire? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:56, 10 November 2009 (CET)
*check the template page. previously, the parameters weren't named, it decided which was which based on its number. if you want to save time, i'd recommend using the template in a new template and set the prevlink and nextlink parameters as {{{1}}} and {{{2}}} respectively - that way, you won't have to enter all the parameters every time, just enter {{NewTemplate|Previous Article|Next Article}} and it'll be fine. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 11:20, 10 November 2009 (CET)

==I have a Question==
Is it true you're a girl?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 23:30, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*If you look inside your heart, you will find the answer. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)

I have one too: Who is the Sysop on Cwcipedia? Is it you? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:56, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*Cogs and myself share Sysop privileges but I only intervene when necessary, such as when she posted a card image that only a troll would have had access to, since it came from the leaked [[Scrapbook of Fail]] or when I recommended that Chris do a heart level thing (which a CWCkipedian came up with) or when I moved a message Cogs posted to the top since Chris is a lazy ass who wouldn't see it at the bottom. But otherwise, yeah, it's cogs 99% of the time. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:47, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**I think Champthom and Cogsdev are a pretty brave guy, ethy wade through unfiltered Chris everyday and dosen't afaraid of insanity.--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 03:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**clyde has access too, he's been helping with the mailbag shit --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:13, 21 November 2009 (CET)

== [[My big 18th party (story)]] ==

Could you please remove the (story) from this title? There's no need for it. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 05:15, 3 December 2009 (CET)
*Oh, and please to be moving [[R.L.Stine]] to [[R.L. Stine]]. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 17:22, 3 December 2009 (CET)
:*Mucho grassy ass. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 23:48, 3 December 2009 (CET)

== Sig. Images ==

Do you know if there's a way I can make my little image after my signature automatic without typing the code after every signature? Let me know if you know how or who I should talk to. --[[User:Anon1Guardian|Anon1Guardian]] 23:28, 5 December 2009 (CET)[[Image:anonlaugh.png|50px]]
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Encyclopedia_Dramatica:Help/Markup#Customized_sigs ED has some info on customizing sigs] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 20:20, 6 December 2009 (CET)

== Taxpayermoney ==

You did realize my edit to {{tl|Taxpayermoney}} was to remove a redlinked category, right? I have since made the category, so we both win. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 07:12, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*huh? the purpose of my edit was to remake the whole template in wikitext, you made the edit after i started editing but before i hit submit. also what's up with [[Template:tl]], you link to a template like this:

<nowiki>[[Template:Taxpayermoney]]</nowiki>
i think i added that template because some weird wikipedia template depended on it. oh well, guess i'll leave it there, don't want to break anything
--[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

==Problem with page titles==
Some people are complaining about page titles, like apparently they've suddenly broken. For instance, Pokemon (with the dash over the e) suddenly turned into '''PokÃ©mon.''' Same deal with Regime Fil Aimes. Sounds more like a technical MediaWiki deal, any idea what's going on? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:32, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*probably a database error. i imagine it has something to do with unicode, so maybe it should be policy to only use ordinary characters(i.e., no accents) in page titles? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:29, 11 December 2009 (CET)
**If that's going to be a problem, be sure to change [[Naïve]] --[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 07:20, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*Since this is old news, I removed the brackets from the word 'PokÃ©mon,' to get it off the "Wanted Pages" list. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 23:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== Proofreading ==

Any chance we could organize some sort of proofreading drive? I've noticed far too many typos and grammatical errors in the articles, not to mention bad wiki formatting. (For instance, the proper way to bold the text at the start of an article is <nowiki>'''like this'''</nowiki>, but most articles have it <nowiki>[[like this]]</nowiki> instead.) [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 08:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*With authority granted to me by my admin powers, I hereby dub you Head Grammar Nazi in charge of The Final Solution to addressing the grammar problem on CWCki. [[:CWCki:Operation Grammatification]] is yours to do with as you will to organize a proofreading drive. You have also been cleared for Super High Priority on the [[:CWCki:Priority Listing|priority list]].

:Also, what's the dillio with the bolding? I mean, if you're referring to the article name, you can do that because 1) it's the article itself and 2) it saves a few bits because it takes one less character to do it and 3) it works. Perhaps our resident [[User:Wwwwolf|wiki <strike>pedo</strike> wizard]] can clear it up. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

:*Proofreading drive?! To me, that's virtually pornographic. ''Definitely'' fap-worthy. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 08:48, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*I created [[CWCki:Operation Grammatification]]. Care to help me shill it? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:17, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*P.S. Do I need to be a jerkop to have pagemove rights? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:32, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:**I will gladly assist you, good sir. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 21:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*can people please stop using html for tables? wiki tables exist for a reason, please [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table learn to use them] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:18, 12 December 2009 (CET)

== Re: PVCC logo ==

Here's a link to the PVCC logo in illustrator format.[http://www.4shared.com/file/137811560/b1a824eb/PVCClogosmall.html] It's free use(libre) if that wasn't already implied, sorry for taking so long to respond, har. Drop me a message if you want anything else vectorized or whatever. --[[User:Ror|Ror]] 19:52, 15 December 2009 (CET)

==Steam==
Do you manage the Steam PVCC user group, and if so, are there any requirements to join? --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 12:43, 27 December 2009 (CET)

==Emails sent to chris.==
If you are the sysop of cwcipedia, please include my newest email sent to him, on Jan 7. The text can be found on my user page.

==Asperpedia Ad for intro image==
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3276/asperpediaad.jpg
Idea:
1. Replace "introduction image"
2. Protect image so can't be replaced or reuploaded
3. Profit
[[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

==Special:ListFiles==
Can you take a look at [[Special:ListFiles]]? The page loads the list of files, but the search function is broken... it worked on the 110MB CWCki, and was really useful. Thanks in advance =) --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 04:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
*works fine for me, but i haven't tested it much. what exactly was the problem? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 15:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**Compare these: [http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AListFiles New CWCki] and [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php/Special:Imagelist?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AImagelist Old CWCki]. The same files exist on both sites, but one search is pulling up all file names that include the characters "Schu" while the other only pulls up one. And weirdly it's picking the one where the characters exist in the middle of the name, rather than the beginning. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 03:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
***that is pretty weird... it doesn't seem to recognise the first character of a search. i'll look this up but i'm not sure what i can do to fix it. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== My videos ==

I'm not sure if you'll want these or not; but if you're recording everything Chris dose then you may want the videos I've posted on my user page.

If not you should check 'em out anyway... I find it funny how Chris thinks every voice he can do is better than ours.

http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/User:Jester

==Implement Database CGI for listing Chris's Videos?==
I have come under the impression that the [[List of Videos|list of Chris's video ]] is starting to become crowded, and that it's only going to become worse. Moreover, I think that it would be nice if we can have a script that could sort his videos by his date, his performance type, etc.

So I thought that it would be nice if we use a CGI program that could list/sort his videos.

I have knowledge with websites, and I have dealt with CGI programs before. Japanese websites are the best for finding a free CGI database program, which I am able to translate so that it would fit into the CWCki. (if time permits, of course)

But for now, do you agree with this idea?
--[[User:Shogun|Shogun]] 00:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*i thought that's what [[Table of Videos]] was for --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 13:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

==Repeat PVCC Registration Attempts==

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I think one reason behind this is because the page has no prompt confirming when you've successfully submitted the request (At least I didn't get one). I had a lot of trouble with the confirmation code and I had no idea I'd got it right until it told me that the name was already in use. I used the same name I used on here, so I figured [[Liquid Chris|someone else]] had taken it. I started trying another name and figured I was just screwing up the confirmation code again until it told me that the other name had been taken. I finally got the hint after that.

TL;DR: I think a prompt confirming that a new account is awaiting confirmation would cut down the repeat registrations. [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 15:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
*it's supposed to tell you that your account has been submitted and is awaiting approval. if it isn't, then that's probably the result of errors left over from the move from 110mb. i might just disable registrations entirely and manually make accounts for people if that's the case, since it'll be kind of hard to fix --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

*Yeah, I was registering an account last night, and I accidentally set up 2 profiles! You need to fix that shit Cogs, and undo my permaban.
--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 22:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

** Honestly when I tried to register, and forgive me if I registerd more than once, I kept getting a message declaring that I had fucked up the confirmation code, hopefully it's just my inability to figure out the PVCC's conifrmations code style.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 4:56, 7 March 2010 (EST)

it's broken, and i can't be arsed fixing it because it's not like i approve new accounts anyway --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 12:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

* Yeah that is true seeing as if you did PVCC would overflow with ED users posting "such marvelous gems of threads" such as "Ivy wuz a blowup doll lol" or some stupid shit lke that.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 8:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I tried to register, but no response. In the case that you might manually authorise me (or not), I'd like to join PVCC because I've thought up some good trolling schemes and I'd like to put them in to action. If you'd like to hear my ideas or otherwise want to talk to me further, respond on my talk page. [[User:Joe Da Moo|Joe Da Moo]] 21:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just tried registering a little while ago and I got a 500 error or something with no confirmation e-mail. Do you think you could confirm my account, please? I assure you I'm not an ED fag. --[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]] 07:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Color coding and stuff ==

Two questions:
# I'm trying to reformat the IRC chats, and that includes color coding. What color do you want to be?
# I'd kinda like to sign up for the PVCC. Is it even worth trying?
Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, i don't think there's any particular rules regards color coding, and i don't mind so long as it's easily readable. also, go ahead and sign up for PVCC, we kind of need some new users anyway. just uh, keep in mind i might forget to approve you, and only sign up once(even if it looks like the attempt failed) --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**I think I signed up twice because I fucked up the Captcha. My bad. :( --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Community Portal rename=%3D

Just curious, is it possible to rename Community Portal? I mean, it's a fine name but maybe we should give it something more CWC related? We could solicit some feedback but first I'm wondering if it's possible. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, that's the default name mediawiki gives it. i was thinking we could do what most other wikis do, and have the community portal be... well, a portal, to other discussion pages about various topics. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== A small question ==

I want to know, is it possible to add a new "Chris and..." page regarding his lack of knowledge about science or "biologee" at least? It could include "recycling", and how the Sonichu's and Rosechu's biology is not something that could live in any world real or pokemon without becoming extinct in less than 100 years.

P.S. Sorry if it comes out awkward. this is my first post and i'm still not completely used to the format.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== PVCC Registration ==

Excuse my bothering you via the CWCki but I submitted a registration for the PVCC and I'm just posting here to let you know it's me and not some troll. I was mainly interested in just finding and updating some article citations on the CWCki using posts from the PVCC - some of which currently link to the old PVCC forum. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I have also submitted a registration so that I can start making good edits to this wki, but I also understand that in the past you've grown to hate a few new members here or there, so I understand if I'm not approved.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 20:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Yet another person who registered in vain. On "CWCki is" it says the CWCki is not a forum. The PVCC should be the forum for CWCkians (I refuse to use the term CWCkipedians). #sonichu is not a forum but a chat room, and /cwc/ seems to be regarded as a lesser community from what I gathered. Is there some sort of elitism in keeping the PVCC locked away from anyone new? --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 05:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*it's not like there's anything worth joining for, it's barely about chris anymore. the reason why nobody new is allowed in is because they wouldn't fit in and it's a pain to deal with people making accounts all the time that will never be approved. regards the cwcki having some sort of forum, i guess the community portal should really be sorted into more of a... well, portal. your edit has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. thank you for your time and efforts. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 00:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*So it's now all in-jokes and such now? Makes me even sadder to be a n00b, then. I'm always late to anything good. Might as well make whatever Chris-related stuff there freely viewable, then, and then have private sub-forums for the in-jokes. As Anonymax said, some citations link to the PVCC.

Also, the Community Portal seems like a CWCki-wide version of the discussion pages, which are meant to be strictly for improving the content of the page. I was looking for a place to intelligently (read: without clowns screaming "Dig up Patti!" and "JULAY!") discuss Chris. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 02:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==Contacting the Wallflower==
In light of Chris dropping her full name on the Cwcipedia, do you think it'd be a good idea to let the Wallflower know that Chris is putting information up on her? It looks like he may even make a full page dedicated to her. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==Wallflower Policy==

Hi Cogs. Since [[user:Ronichu|newfags]] and [[user:Ronichu|retards]] keep constantly asking about it, I've drafted a section which I've termed "The Wallflower Policy". Can you approve, ammend or reject it for the main Wallflower page? It's at [[Talk:The_Wallflower#Stating CWCki Policy]].

== What is your problem? ==
What are you doing Cogs? What have you got against me? I don't like Chris or Sonichu beyond anyone else here, I don't do any of the furry sex stuff that Sonichu and the others do, and I haven't taken any of this twitter crap onto the CWCki. All I do is fuck around a few minutes day making jokes about killing Sonichu's kids. Why is this necessary? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
* you fly with the crows, you get tarred with the same brush. or however that saying goes. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
**Is there anything I can do to get that removed? I don't want to cause a big argument on here and I don't want to be involved in the whole Twitter thing if its going to cause all this. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
***Yeah, I'm with Edward. Anything that can get us started on the road to redemption? My Twitter accounts have been dead for 2 days now (since YawningSquirtleRedux warned me to stay away from them), and my Twitter days are over and done with. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 17:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect problem. ==

I can't access any cogsdev.org sites from my home internet. It says there's some sort of redirect problem. Is there anything you can do to fix this?

Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*your IP probably got blocked for spamming requests. wait for your IP to change, and in future, don't use firefox --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*It's not Firefox to blame. I was using Chrome before I had problems. I suspect it's a rare server error and the page which handles the error message for it causes the large amount of requests. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Well it's working now. The firefox message mentioned looping requests, but in the future I can use Chrome, if you think that'll help.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::*The redirect loop is probably how the server handles blocks. I'm still unsure as to why there is a mass of requests being sent to the server - apparently before we encounter the redirect loop. I ended up blocked due to request spam - and I wasn't using Firefox. --01:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== sorry about rolling back that edit ==

chrome decided it didn't want to redraw itself anymore --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== I beg forgiveness ==

I will pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I understand what I must not do. This will carry over into future operations and circumstances. What can I do to prove my loyalty to the motherland?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*quit bein a fag --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 08:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
**understood.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== About deleting that template ==

I know what I did really lacked good judgment and I apologize for acting like an idiot. I should have waited for an admin's opinion before doing anything. If you give me back my jerkop status, I can guarantee such thing will not happen again. --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 15:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
* ask champthom in a week or so, tell him i said you could have your jerkop status back then --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:*OK, thanks.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 16:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

==My case for keeping Afternoon around==
I hate to bother you, but I think it's only fair that you hear my defense of ''Afternoon'' before it gets axed. I really don't think it fits any of the criteria you define as bad fanworks. It's not my attempt at rewriting ''Sonichu''; I don't retread any of the plot. Kitty isn't an original character. I know that she acts wildly out of her original characterization in my story, but that's true of most fanwork. Even the great ''Sonichu is Dead'' had the title character behaving completely different from how Chris writes him. And Kitty isn't my fursona; I'm not a furry and I have no fursona. I know I've semi-jokingly described her as a bit of a Sue in past, but I just meant that she was fun to write. ''Afternoon'' isn't some kind of power fantasy; it's just about torturing Chris's least popular characters for the amusement of the readers. If you still think it's not relevant to the wiki or that Chris's own role in it isn't big enough, I'll respect your decision and take the thing elsewhere. I just wanted you to hear my side of the story. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==I need something answered...==
Chris has been very quite lately. So I want to do something to piss him off and get him back on [[Youtube]]. Something so original, not even the [[Clyde Cash|King of Trolling]] himself could of thought up. So here is the big question: What hasn't any troll done or would think of doing that would effect Chris to the point of yelling at a camera?

[[User:Galaxyguy159|GalaxyGuy159]]
*First of all, sign your posts properly. It's 4 tildes (~) after your post. Secondly, this is not a trolling site. This is a site to document Chris' actions. If you want a trolling base, go elsewhere. Finally, if there were something someone thought of to get Chris back, they would either A: Execute the plan him/herself, B: Give the plan to a more experienced troll, or C: Give the plan to a trusted FA. Any way you look at it, the plan wouldn't be put on a wiki and it wouldn't be given to an inexperienced member, which includes not only you, but almost everyone on this wiki (e.g. me). [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 18:35, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:*The above is FACT. Also, the best trolls don't plan on trolling. Asperchu was just a couple of oneoffs, for instance, and Liquid never imagined things would get as big as they did. If you want my tip, TRY things. People will call you a faggot, but that's because until something works all plans SOUND retarded because nobody aside from Chris would ever fall for them. So, in short, DO IT FAGGOT, don't be afraid to try things but don't fuck with other trolls plans, and lurk more. And... Yeah. This isn't a trolling place, only for documenting, so take your questions elsewhere in the future. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:50, 2 August 2010 (PDT)

== Favicon ==

Cogs, any way we could get a favicon for the CWCki? Like, maybe a brown and yellow Pokeball? We can solicit suggestions from users, but it'd help to ask you first if that's something you could do.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:54, 23 August 2010 (PDT)

== CWCipedia archive ==

*As I am dealing with the 110mb external links, I found that this archived version of CWCipedia includes unreverted vandalism on March, such as those on the [http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_51 mailbag] pages, is it supposed to be so? Regards, [[User:Nechita|Nechita]] 02:48, 24 August 2010 (PDT)

== PVCC registration ==

I know that many people are being annoying by reregistering, but you really shouldn't completely disable registration, as there are some people (including me) that would be a good addition to the forum that are shut out by this. Not sure if the forum software allows for this, but maybe you could disable registering more than once per person (possibly by ip adress and/or cookies?) [[User:Sodahollic|Sodahollic]] 14:40, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
*Registration of accounts is done on a basis of time spent hanging around IRC and your behavior there, contribution to the CWCki, or at the discretion of the forum admins. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 16:16, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== What? ==

My parents are divorced..so yeah, I live in ND some of the time and VA the rest...though it is true that I no longer work at Wal-Mart (as of about 3 weeks ago).
--[[User:Kitsune|Kitsune]] 13:41, 23 December 2010 (PST)

==Denouncing past faggotry==

Hello Cogs, long time no see. I just wanted to apologize for this past drama involving Legi0n and other sites I would rather not get into. I've had some time away from the CWCki to rethink my poor choices in judgement, and I just wanted to say that I'm willing to get off to a fresh start to benefit this site, as well as its users. I cannot promise anything to you, but the most I can do is try so that nothing like what I caused in the past ever happens again. I am sincerely sorry, and I will do my best to stay out of everyone's way in the future. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 09:33, 10 February 2011 (PST)
*Cogs has had some "away time" too. Three edits since September, and the last one was a month ago. Champ's the only active admin. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(Talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|(Contributions)]] 09:37, 10 February 2011 (PST)

==I'm not sure if I can do this but==

I'd like to contest the blocks of Ror and Pfargtl9000 (sorry, Goatselover, but you don't do much) on the grounds that Ror has a Gold Star Bounty and a Requested Template Award (both of which prove that he's useful and is here to contribute) and because Pfargtl9000 has nearly 2,500 edits spanning over a year. They both are useful to the wiki and I think blocking them for a year for holding an opinion/misconception (especially when the wiki is already sieving veteran editors) is counterproductive. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 10:28, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* this wiki is overmaintained, i don't really care --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:53, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

==ThePCAssassins Prank Calls Page==
Other than the obvious exploitation of CWC for eFame is there any reason why the prank calls shouldn't be recorded here? Sure, most of the information is irrelevant or we already know about the so called insights Bob gives but I'm sure eventually something good might come of it. Probably. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 05:51, 19 May 2011 (PDT)
* no [[User:Sully|Sully]] 20:12, 19 May 2011 (PDT)

== Publishing a book about Chris Chan ==

I was wondering if you would be interested in possibly working together in publishing a book about Chris Chan, based on content from this website. I am part of a small publishing company. I saw the public domain status of this website, though writing a book is still something I would want to be a joint effort. If this website accepts donations, I could donate part of any money I receive, though I can't really negotiate anything formal.

Please let me know what you think. I think a book about Chris Chan would be pretty epic.

:[[User:Publisher|Publisher]] 08:52, 17 November 2011 (PST)
*She's going to say no. Don't even bother. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:25, 18 November 2011 (PST)

==PS3 Browsing==

I mainly browse this wiki on a PS3 (im not chris, honest) but to view pages you must select 'printable version' as 2 thick blocks cover the pages text/videos, some other wikis do this but ED doesnt and nor does TOW, could you by any chance look into sorting this out, ta very much, Mr MellowColo(u)r

== We cant upload this stuff onto this website ==

Because it has now become clear that chris himself regularly checks up on the cwcki for updates, so whenever we upload anything new about him, chris WILL realise that people as far as singapore have found out about his private information.
So in order to keep new comic pages and updates coming, we cant upload them onto the CWCki
:Ok, first things; sign your post. There's a little button for it, or it's jutst -- <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> right after (no spaces). I know no one likes to read the rules and policies stuff, but seriously, this one is obvious. Second thing: do you honestly think Chris is working on the comics anymore?? If you do, you obviously do not know Chris at all... Third: If you posted this just so Chris will see it (for whatever reason you want him to see it) and think it will do anything... You obviously do not know Chris at all. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:45, 15 April 2012 (PDT)

== CWCki Forums ==

It's spergcityzone.forumer.com. spergcentral is a forum set up by some butthurt people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:25, 22 January 2013 (PST)

==Editing Locked?==

For some reason, editing seems to be disabled for all of the articles? If I may ask, how come? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 20:23, 28 January 2013 (PST)
*Short answer - because somebody's making a shitton of new accounts and if I had to hazard a guess, they're planning on ban evading.

:Long answer - it's getting more and more difficult to monitor the CWCki. There was a recent incident where someone vandalized the CWCki and it took two days before a jerkop or admin noticed. I think the easy solution here was to close editing. I really don't think we're missing out on much, I think it's extremely unlikely that someone will come up with some new perspective that can totally change the tone of an article. The "of the Now" articles seem to be open for editing, that's the big thing, maybe "Da update" can be open for editing and maybe get [[2013]] open for editing. I think that's all we really need.

:If you feel passionate about it, bring it up on the community portal and if enough people feel it, I suppose we could reverse it. But like I said, it's not like we have a lot of people editing the CWCki now. Maybe one day Chris will make a dramatic comeback and it'll make sense to have the CWCki open for editing but in the meantime, I don't think it makes much sense.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:05, 29 January 2013 (PST)

** Well, yeah, I suppose that makes sense. To be totally honest, though, I doubt there will be anything significant fron Chris at all until his parole ends. Thanks for filling me in. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 20:10, 29 January 2013 (PST)

==Chris is active again==

He's whining about Tara Strong supporting the trolls on his Facebook page. Also, I noticed that somebody updated the 'Quotes of the Day' with Chris Chan saying 'Fuck off, fuck face', but there's no screenshot uploaded to prove he said that. Why aren't any updates made regarding this? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 09:58, 3 March 2013 (PST)

:Check the forums! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] 18:35, 6 March 2013 (PST)

-- The forums? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 20:40, 13 March 2013 (PDT)

==Mockumentary/Documentary==

So I don't know if this interests you, or anyone else for that matter, but within the next year and a half me and my joy-boy (a fellow frequenter of the CWCki) are going to be heading up to Virginia to check out Ruckersville and Charlottesville. We're going to try to get interviews with Michael Snyder, Officer Bagget, Mary Lee Walsh; maybe even the big man himself, GodJesus willing.
We're going to start working on it as soon as possible, and if anyone would like to contribute, contact me at (I'll have an e-mail set up in a day or two).

Thanks! --[[User:Beelzepup|Beelzepup]] 11:34, 17 October 2014 (CST)

== If you are alive, I have a problem ==

http://i.imgur.com/jWIlW3Y.png

==Unable to Donate?==
Hi there, I was planning to chip in to the tugboat, but PayPal wouldn't let me do it through my account. I tried clicking on the link to the cwcki PayPal website too, but it redirected me back to the main page :/.

--[[Camille]] 9:54, 07 October 2017 (PST)

User:Camille

2017-10-08T03:33:16Z

Camille:

Hello everyone, I'm a fellow Christorian here hailing from all the way in NorCal!

Occupation: Student, Seasonal Walmart Employee

Favorite foods: bastardized versions of healthy food, such as fried bananas.

Fun fact: I'm a UC (University of California) student!

User:Camille

2017-10-08T03:31:43Z

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Hello everyone, I'm a fellow Christorian here hailing from all the way in NorCal!

Occupation: Student, Seasonal Walmart Employee
Favorite foods: bastardized versions of healthy food, such as fried bananas.
Fun fact: I'm a UC (University of California) student!

Chris and kindness

2017-10-07T22:20:39Z

Camille: /* How Chris demonstrates kindness */

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{{quote|I AM NOT A MONSTER! | Chris proclaiming he’s a saint<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Autism_Tutorial_Part_4</ref>}}
[[File:Kindness.png|thumb|200px|[[26 December 2014|He loves kindness.]]]]
[[Image:WarriorOfLove.jpg|thumb|200px|"I Am Warroir of Love."]]

Despite all of his moments of [[Chris and anger|rage]], [[Death threats|death threats]], [[lies]], and... [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|yuck]], Chris does have a soft side, and he is not afraid to show it. He will sometimes be motivated to act '''kind''' towards other people, although due to his autism and upbringing making it difficult to empathize with others, these attempts are often awkward and occasionally crosses the line to disrespect.

== Chris and his morality ==

[[File:Chris' Big Dilema.jpg|thumb|Chris conflicting with his morality and his desires at the same time|200px]]

{{Template:See also|A-Logging#Chris is not Hitler}}

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris' stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. To a certain extent, he's right, but for all of the wrong reasons.

Despite what one may think about Chris, the reality is that he is relatively harmless and is somewhat capable of distinguishing right and wrong. But that is only scratching the surface, as Chris' selfishness and naivete often turn out to be the main culprits behind him doing immoral actions, rather than true malevolence.

One infamous example of this behavior is when he foolishly drew and uploaded [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] onto Encyclopedia Dramatica as a means to combat all of the pictures of [[duck|ducks]] and [[pickles]] he found on the site, as well as to [[Homos#Fear of being a homo|prove his straightness]], not thinking about how Megan might respond to being depicted in such an undignified manner in a shoddily drawn piece of porn. Megan, who was looking for just about any reason to stop talking to Chris<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post</ref>, was understandably revolted. However, what cements the fact that his naivete was partly responsible is how Chris tried to explain to Megan what happened in the picture itself, thinking that she was inexperienced with sex, and didn't understand what was going on, rather than the obvious fact that she was depicted in such a demeaning situation, and that Chris obviously wants to pound her.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the trolls side are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and the members of staffs of media he enjoys.

== Empathy ==

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others.

== Motivations for doing good ==

===[[Love Quest]] and [[gal pals]]===

[[File:Doopie White Knights Chris.jpg|thumb|200px]]

While socializing with his alleged pals, Chris always takes the time to act as kind as possible to them, to the point where it becomes downright disturbing. Unsurprisingly, Chris has used Social Media as a means of continuing his LoveQuest and finding the [[sweetheart]] he has desired for over a decade. Because of that, most of the people [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|Chris attempts to befriend are girls]], with and [[Boyfriend-Free Girl|without boyfriends]].

In terms of friendships on social media, whenever he feels he's up the creek without a paddle, Chris will almost always doubt that he is in any way responsible for anybody turning against him because, in his eyes, he is too kind for anyone to simply block him on Twitter or to be hated by the masses, and instead [[Chris and remorse|shifts the blame on the trolls]]. This coupled with the fact that Chris refuses to see the worst out of his friends unless he gets the hint that they denied access to their [[china]] makes it sound even more disturbing.

===Avoiding trouble===

In other instances, Chris will only act kind to people to avoid getting into trouble.

===Personal benefit===

In general, whenever Chris acts kind to people, it’s because he thinks that doing so is the best way to manipulate them into doing whatever he wants them to. This is possibly due to his misunderstanding of simple etiquette and manners.

== How Chris demonstrates kindness ==

{| class="wikitable"
|[[Chris and remorse|Apologizing]]
|As mentioned above, Chris has a very limited understanding of empathy. Whenever he apologizes, it's usually because he wants something <ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_and_negotiation</ref>.This is in part to his upbringing<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Borb</ref> and other things such as [[autism]], all of which limits his ability to understand empathy.
|-
|Using pet names
|To refer to a gal-pal in a "kind" nonsexual manner, Chris will often refer to them as either [[Darling|"darling" or "dear"]]<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/LadyOfTheCosmo</ref>. However, since Chris obviously doesn't understand how creepy it is to refer to a girl he's just met on the internet as a "darling", most girls who talk to Chris online will be set off by Chris misuse of the word.
|-
|Gift-giving
|
|-
|}

== Genuine acts of kindness ==
Chris once participated in raising funds for [[Alex's Lemonade Stand]], a charity program that works to raise awareness of childhood cancer. Although he did it in memory of his deceased [[father]],who died of heart disease, it was still considered a positive contribution Chris made to society.

He also donated to Red Cross in the wake of Hurricane Harvey in September 2017.

== See also ==

* [[Chris and remorse]]

== References ==
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{{Chris and}}

Chris and kindness

2017-10-07T21:54:41Z

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{{Articleofthenow}}

{{quote|I AM NOT A MONSTER! | Chris proclaiming he’s a saint<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Autism_Tutorial_Part_4</ref>}}
[[File:Kindness.png|thumb|200px|[[26 December 2014|He loves kindness.]]]]
[[Image:WarriorOfLove.jpg|thumb|200px|"I Am Warroir of Love."]]

Despite all of his moments of [[Chris and anger|rage]], [[Death threats|death threats]], [[lies]], and... [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|yuck]], Chris does have a soft side, and he is not afraid to show it. He will sometimes be motivated to act '''kind''' towards other people, although due to his autism and upbringing making it difficult to empathize with others, these attempts are often awkward and occasionally crosses the line to disrespect.

== Chris and his morality ==

[[File:Chris' Big Dilema.jpg|thumb|Chris conflicting with his morality and his desires at the same time|200px]]

{{Template:See also|A-Logging#Chris is not Hitler}}

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris' stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. To a certain extent, he's right, but for all of the wrong reasons.

Despite what one may think about Chris, the reality is that he is relatively harmless and is somewhat capable of distinguishing right and wrong. But that is only scratching the surface, as Chris' selfishness and naivete often turn out to be the main culprits behind him doing immoral actions, rather than true malevolence.

One infamous example of this behavior is when he foolishly drew and uploaded [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] onto Encyclopedia Dramatica as a means to combat all of the pictures of [[duck|ducks]] and [[pickles]] he found on the site, as well as to [[Homos#Fear of being a homo|prove his straightness]], not thinking about how Megan might respond to being depicted in such an undignified manner in a shoddily drawn piece of porn. Megan, who was looking for just about any reason to stop talking to Chris<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post</ref>, was understandably revolted. However, what cements the fact that his naivete was partly responsible is how Chris tried to explain to Megan what happened in the picture itself, thinking that she was inexperienced with sex, and didn't understand what was going on, rather than the obvious fact that she was depicted in such a demeaning situation, and that Chris obviously wants to pound her.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the trolls side are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and the members of staffs of media he enjoys.

== Empathy ==

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others.

== Motivations for doing good ==

===[[Love Quest]] and [[gal pals]]===

[[File:Doopie White Knights Chris.jpg|thumb|200px]]

While socializing with his alleged pals, Chris always takes the time to act as kind as possible to them, to the point where it becomes downright disturbing. Unsurprisingly, Chris has used Social Media as a means of continuing his LoveQuest and finding the [[sweetheart]] he has desired for over a decade. Because of that, most of the people [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|Chris attempts to befriend are girls]], with and [[Boyfriend-Free Girl|without boyfriends]].

In terms of friendships on social media, whenever he feels he's up the creek without a paddle, Chris will almost always doubt that he is in any way responsible for anybody turning against him because, in his eyes, he is too kind for anyone to simply block him on Twitter or to be hated by the masses, and instead [[Chris and remorse|shifts the blame on the trolls]]. This coupled with the fact that Chris refuses to see the worst out of his friends unless he gets the hint that they denied access to their [[china]] makes it sound even more disturbing.

===Avoiding trouble===

In other instances, Chris will only act kind to people to avoid getting into trouble.

===Personal benefit===

In general, whenever Chris acts kind to people, it’s because he thinks that doing so is the best way to manipulate them into doing whatever he wants them to. This is possibly due to his misunderstanding of simple etiquette and manners.

== How Chris demonstrates kindness ==

{| class="wikitable"
|[[Chris and remorse|Apologizing]]
|
|-
|Using pet names
|To refer to a gal-pal in a "kind" nonsexual manner, Chris will often refer to them as either [[Darling|"darling" or "dear"]]<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/LadyOfTheCosmo</ref>. However, since Chris obviously doesn't understand how creepy it is to refer to a girl he's just met on the internet as a "darling", most girls who talk to Chris online will be set off by Chris misuse of the word.
|-
|Gift-giving
|
|-
|}

== Genuine acts of kindness ==
Chris once participated in raising funds for [[Alex's Lemonade Stand]], a charity program that works to raise awareness of childhood cancer. Although he did it in memory of his deceased [[father]],who died of heart disease, it was still considered a positive contribution Chris made to society.

He also donated to Red Cross in the wake of Hurricane Harvey in September 2017.

== See also ==

* [[Chris and remorse]]

== References ==
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