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Talk:Obesity

2010-09-27T03:51:51Z

Communist:

==To do==
Add Chris's comments about weight ("about 200 pounds"), his exercise (Guitar Hero, standing up), Chris being defensive about his weight (in IRC, he got really defense and in an e-mail with Evan [I think] he's like "I AM NOT FAT!!!!!!!!!!!") and so forth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 31 May 2009 (CEST)
*I added a lot of stuff, but I suck with editing wiki format so a lot of things don't have links. I fsomeone wants to help out, go for it.--[[User:Howsyourham|Howsyourham]] 17:01, 19 July 2009 (CEST)
*Now that the Chris and Health article is up, I propose that we merge this and that article together, seing as this falls under health.
:*I'm tempted to do that, though I'm leaning towards calling this "Chris and his weight" since that's a pretty indepth topic himself that comes up a lot (that is, "Chris is fat lol"). Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:35, 3 September 2009 (CEST)
::*It's definitely an important topic, seeing as how it has not only been brought up so many times, but how adamantly Chris has reacted to it. It's beyond just not bathing regularly, this is a real part of his mindset and I think it warrants it's own page. Why don't we just move the two sections from [[Chris and Health|Health]] and add them to this page, then include a link? We already are talking about exercise, I don't think nutrition would be that much of a leap. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 16:48, 3 September 2009 (CEST)
:::*When I made this article I made it because there seems to be a lot of fat people in Chris' life, including himself. But then again this is quite common in the US. So I support it being moved to "Chris and Obesity" or "Chris and His Weight", but not merged with the Health article.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 23:20, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
:: merge this bitch--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 18:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

==Rename==
I'm thinking about renaming this "Chris's weight." Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:17, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*If we're going for a more objective title, that would be better. Obesity should still re-direct to it, though; if for no other reason than that this particular page is linked to extensively and trying to find them all would be a bitch. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 01:24, 28 October 2009 (CET)
**How about renaming it "Buddha Belly" considering that's his CWC-ism for his obesity. --[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 00:36, 15 November 2009 (CET)
***Honestly, I think pretty much all of this could be added to [[Chris and Health]]. Maybe we could label that section Buddha belly, or at least mention that on the page or something?--[[User:That Man|That Man]] 19:37, 1 December 2009 (CET)

== Merge ==

There's a lot of good stuff here, but it overlaps with [[Chris and Health]]. Could it be condensed into a subsection of his weight and diet?--[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 08:19, 5 December 2009 (CET)
*I agree with this. The "Chris and..." series is a much better place for this and some other overlapping articles. I vote we merge.--[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 23:47, 7 December 2009 (CET)
*I also agree with the merge. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:03, 13 December 2009 (CET)
*Same. [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (CET)
*I agree! It'd make a lot more sense IMHO. --[[User:Morganna|Morganna]] 17:24, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*Yeah I agree, but we have to becareful not to Fuck up the Health article. But there IS a large ammount of good info on here.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:14, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
*I don't know. His obesity has been playing a lot into his life lately, from Kacey's father calling him fat to which he's embarrassed to admit it and uses a euphemism to try and not outright refer to himself as fat, to denying it and claiming he used to be fat (i.e. Sammy and addressing Asperchu).--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 23:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
*To me it seems that a lot of the actual health related aspects could be added to Chris and Health in a merge, but I also agree with the above comment in the rename section regarding the CWCism 'Buddha belly' I say we do a bit of both of those. We'll have a section for his obesity in Chris and Health and another seperate page for the CWCism Buddha belly. Kind of like how there are articles for 'Chris and Race' alongside the page for the CWCism 'Niggos' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
*I say let this stand, but maybe trim some of the fat (heh heh) from Chris and health — anything on that page should just be a summary of the concepts that are covered in more detail here. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 23:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
* I say we merge this bitch--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
* I vote for placing an overview of his obesity, particularly the health ramifications, on the Health page, with a link to Obesity. So I second (or rather third) Apostrophe and Edward--[[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:33, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* I agree wholly to merge this sucker, that way, everything about Obesity can be covered in Chris and Health, and his excuses not to exercise as well. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:54, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
* I like having this separate. Chris and health is massive as it is.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:58, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
* I'm also going agree with everyone on having them separate. If his [[hair]] gets it's own article despite not being as major of a subject as his obesity then I don't see why this should be merged.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 15:31, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Way to determine his weight==

Why not ask him his waist size? I mean he's probably too stupid to realize that its meant to get his actual weight. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
*Because he might not know, or might measure inaccurately? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 16:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
** He'll most likely lie and say that he's a size 4 or something. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
*** You really think we can't lead him on?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
***We could tell him that a number in a certain range (one likely to be close to his size) is the sign of a strong, healthy man. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 11:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**** Brilliant. We could tell him that the sign of a healthy man is a waistline between 40 and 50. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
* For what it's worth, as someone who is a little chubbier than Chris (yes, I know that makes me a fatass), I think I can supply a decent estimate. I'd put him at around 250lb, plus or minus 10. [[User:PsychoticPuggle|PsychoticPuggle]] 12:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
==Mention how he inspires us all==
Man it is sad that the person who convinced me i should work harder at losing weight was because he was such a repugnant human being that he gave fat people a bad name. Seriously they should make documentaries about his life to convince kids that obesity is bad it is much more effective than the current shit they do.

Talk:Homos

2010-09-27T03:06:13Z

Communist: /* Home Gene */

==To do==
*All of Chris's quotes asserting his heterosexuality
*Picture of Chris in his mom's underwear
*His comments against homos

==Expand to include Lesbians?==
This could be the topic of a separate article, but how would you people feel about including lesbians into this one? It's an interesting evolution of Chris's ideas. Originally, Chris was perfectly fine with lesbians, as he'd only have male homosexuals jailed and programmed whiled lesbians would be safe. Obviously, the reason why Chris likes lesbians is because they don't make him question his sexuality. I forget what exactly prompted it but I think maybe it was all the comments from trolls about how he's a hypocrite that he decided to start hating lesbians as well, as first seen in the "Boyfriend" music video.

I think this would be a good topic that should be discussed somewhere here on the CWCki, but should we include it into the homos article or should we delve into it in a separate article? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:45, 26 November 2009 (CET)
* Its more believable that he was rejected by a woman claiming truthfully or not that she was a lesbian and he suddenly realized that lesbian does not equal bisexual lesbian equal lesbian. [[User:Communist|Communist]]

==Sex Toys thing==

Good so far, but I edited the thing about the anal beads. I've actually ordered from AdamAndEve.com before and they generally give you a choice of a toy or a DVD. Furthermore, the toy is usually based on what you order - order a fake pussy or something like that, and you'll get something like a fake cocksucker. Order something phallic and you'll get something phallic as a free gift (i.e. order a dildo, you'll get anal beads). It's been a while since I last ordered form them (pro tip: Amazon is actually cheaper) but I do believe you can opt out. I do believe that one of Chris's dildo (not his vibrator) he actually BOUGHT because (and I'm paraphrasing his own word) it was only like $1.99 or something like that. The moar you know. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:36, 14 March 2009 (CET)

: Whoa whoa whoa, back up. Chris has a dildo AND a vibrtator? --[[User:MachPunch|MachPunch]] 19:39, 15 March 2009 (CET)
: Hes the kind of retard to not realize they do the same thing when ones turned off. [[User:Communist|Communist]]

==Asexuality==

Me and a friend (who both enjoy this wiki very much) were talking about CWC recently, and we personally think he's asexual, but trying to put up a heterosexual facade because Grown Ups Have Sex; so I added a little bit about that possibility. [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 21:21, 5 August 2009 (CEST)

* The asexuality section is great. I really believe Chris is obsessed with getting laid not out of any perversion or actual sexual desire, but because it's what he believes adulthood is about. And to be honest, sexuality is a big part of being an adult, unfortunately Chris is ignoring things like interpersonal relationships, financial responsibility, work, every single other thing. tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded.

* Alright, it seems that this article is the wrong page for the asexuality bit and that the Chris and Sex page would be a better fit for it, so I'm going to put it over there, then. [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 08:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

*"''tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded.''" Haha, what? Because drawing furfag porn,drinking his [[navy]],the infamous"''I don't know child, what with the dumb laws.''"quote regarding the fact an apparently [[Zapina|14 year old character]] couldn't be in a pornographic film, the also infamous "''I can imagine myself doing it with a collie at least. you know, like Lassie.''"quote and other things aren't signs of serious perversion at all? tl;dr being a furfag,drinking his semen,showing signs of pedophilia, and possibly accepting bestiality remove any weight the "''he's just retarded''" argument has. Even if the semen drinking, and bestiality answer could be passed off as doing things to get [[china]], it would remain that Chris became a furfag and [[pedofork]] on his own will. Oh,and I'd like to see any proof he really isn't a homophobe seeing as he fits the dictionary definition to a T.--[[User:Ror|Ror]] 05:58, 27 September 2009 (CEST)

*I consider several things, now that's it brought up. From the Chris and Sex page "then hoists himself with his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form". Also the fact that he seems to have little care for actual humans, but feel care for his hedgehogs and his dead dog. and the bestiality bits. I think Chris is Asexual to humans, or things he sees as human. He isn't a furfag, because he isn't a furry, and he ain't a furry because he's said "screw that" to anthropomorphized animals, and seems to just like (and "like") non-human animals (because like his dog, his sonichus and such like him for how he is, and don't have stupid human ideas like bathing)[[User:SenorTucan|SenorTucan]] 05:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Revelation? ==

I happened to glance at CWCikipedia's article on[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Dating_Education Dating Education], and I noticed something.

"It is a fact that individuals who were unable to find their opposite-gender Sweetheart or crushes and get lucky before adulthood are likely tempted to turn homo"

Apparently not getting Hanky Panky during teenaged years leads to temptations of being a homo. CWC Science Proven Fact! Anyway, would this be notable enough to put in either this article or Chris and sex, or just forget about it?--[[User:WEsKar|WEsKar]] 20:27, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

: I slipped it into the "Fear of..." section already, but it bears further expansion. This is quite the psycho-sexual revelation on Chris's part. [[User:CDiddles|CDiddles]] 20:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

== "Christopher" (I guess?) faved [http://krapplekomputerkompany.com/cwc/img/1251873110513.jpg this] ==

Christopher also does [http://krapplekomputerkompany.com/cwc/img/1252025256932.jpg a lot] of other shit like that right now. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:32, 4 September 2009 (CEST)

==Mother's Underwear==
Does anyone know when and why he posted that picture?[[User:Skwrr|Skwrr]] 21:52, 13 October 2009 (CEST)

The picture of Chris in his mom's underwear is an older picture from '07-'08. Why he put it on and uploaded it? 1. You'll have to see the [[sports bra]] article. 2. What can we expect from someone who bows like a girl, penetrates like a girl, and collects my little ponies? 3. A troll made him do it.

--[[User:Scarletdragon|Scarletdragon]] 04:07, 15 October 2009

*It's from September 2008. Lordsillynipples posed as Blanca and "Blanca" told Chris he would leave him if he didn't wear his mother's underwear, hence why he's not wearing a shit eating grin. I swore there was an article on just those pictures but I forget what it was called. I swore that this was something Chris did before on his own (try on his mother's underwear) but apparently, I was mistaken. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:39, 15 October 2009 (CEST)

==Home Gene==
I was reading mailbag on the CWCipedia, and one 'fan' posed a question that Chris gave a rather interesting answer to. They asked how Chris was going to rehabilitate the homos after the Dating ED episode in the comic, and Chris explained how he ends up out of the time void a year after the present where scientists have isolated the genes for homo and heterosexuality. He offers his straight blood in order to create a vaccine for gayness, and will take it back to his time period. --[[User:Rye|Rye]] 6:18, 19 November 2009
** If he knew anything about how vaccines are made he would realize that you cant cure genes. that and we know what the gay gene is its the same gene that causes extreme fertility among women.

=="Chris on his alleged homosexuality" needs updating==
I am 99% positive Chris has said something denying he's a homosexual since the most recent quote on the list. We need to update it with other ones (make sure they're some variant of the existing ones, that is Chris denying he's gay and that he's STRAIGHT). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:18, 30 November 2009 (CET)

==Heather Iglesias==
"Curiously, Chris goes out of his way to state that the children of Sonichu and Rosechu (that is, the fictional actors who portray them, and not the doubly-fictional characters themselves, if you want to add another layer of crazy to the parfait of suck that is the Sonichu series) are watched over by [[Heather Iglesias]]..."

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean; I don't remember Chris ever saying that Sonichu and Rosechu are actors. If I'm wrong, feel free to add back with a source. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 03:41, 9 December 2009 (CET)

== Chris hates lesbians now ==

Chris dislikes the lesbians just like the homos. He said this answering a question in a recent Mailbag. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 12:02, 21 December 2009 (CET)

Srsly guys. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:15, 26 December 2009 (CET)

Also is there any "update needed" tag on CWCki? --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:16, 26 December 2009 (CET)

...also I guess I'm starting to take all this too seriously. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:17, 26 December 2009 (CET)
*I'm gonna make a separate article about lesbians sometime soon, titled [[Dykes Dykes China|Dykes]], since lesbians and male homosexuals don't mean exactly the same to Chris. --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 10:33, 26 December 2009 (CET)
*An update needed tag would be handy, good thinking Sonijew. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:10, 31 December 2009 (CET)

== Chris needs to realize this. ==

Lets just say Chris finally learns to accept himself for who he is (Gay, bisexual at LEAST), ALOT of trolls would stop, because most, if not all of the trolls arent homophobic. Chris really brought this upon himself, its a classic example of a "Victim Complex". ITs kinda like how CHRIS is the one who posted the picture of sonichu on 4chan, yet he blames the site.
-[[User:CJB8895|Cody]] 12:08 AM
:I have never seen proof that Chris himself posted the picture of Sonichu on 4chan. [[User:RobGoblin|RobGoblin]] 03:49, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:A better comparison would be how he uploaded [[Shecameforcwc.jpg]] to [[ED]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 04:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== TARD LOGIC ==

Doesn't Chris realize that turning all the homos straight would decrease his risk of finding a boyfriend-free girl?
I mean if he truly wanted to have a BFG he would want all jerks to be homos--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:I think that's been pointed out to him before in the Mailbag and he essentially blew that person off. Chris might be aware of this but he just doesn't seem to care (like so many other things). --[[User:GotAFish|GotAFish]] 08:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

==Phobia==
I'd just like to point out that phobia isn't a fear of X, it's an irrational fear of X. So is it okay to change the line "he is literally afraid of homosexuality..." into "he is literally , and irrationally, afraid of homosexuality..." or would this just be too silly/too much?[[User:SenorTucan|SenorTucan]] 05:10, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Homos

2010-09-27T02:59:52Z

Communist: /* Sex Toys thing */

==To do==
*All of Chris's quotes asserting his heterosexuality
*Picture of Chris in his mom's underwear
*His comments against homos

==Expand to include Lesbians?==
This could be the topic of a separate article, but how would you people feel about including lesbians into this one? It's an interesting evolution of Chris's ideas. Originally, Chris was perfectly fine with lesbians, as he'd only have male homosexuals jailed and programmed whiled lesbians would be safe. Obviously, the reason why Chris likes lesbians is because they don't make him question his sexuality. I forget what exactly prompted it but I think maybe it was all the comments from trolls about how he's a hypocrite that he decided to start hating lesbians as well, as first seen in the "Boyfriend" music video.

I think this would be a good topic that should be discussed somewhere here on the CWCki, but should we include it into the homos article or should we delve into it in a separate article? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:45, 26 November 2009 (CET)
* Its more believable that he was rejected by a woman claiming truthfully or not that she was a lesbian and he suddenly realized that lesbian does not equal bisexual lesbian equal lesbian. [[User:Communist|Communist]]

==Sex Toys thing==

Good so far, but I edited the thing about the anal beads. I've actually ordered from AdamAndEve.com before and they generally give you a choice of a toy or a DVD. Furthermore, the toy is usually based on what you order - order a fake pussy or something like that, and you'll get something like a fake cocksucker. Order something phallic and you'll get something phallic as a free gift (i.e. order a dildo, you'll get anal beads). It's been a while since I last ordered form them (pro tip: Amazon is actually cheaper) but I do believe you can opt out. I do believe that one of Chris's dildo (not his vibrator) he actually BOUGHT because (and I'm paraphrasing his own word) it was only like $1.99 or something like that. The moar you know. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:36, 14 March 2009 (CET)

: Whoa whoa whoa, back up. Chris has a dildo AND a vibrtator? --[[User:MachPunch|MachPunch]] 19:39, 15 March 2009 (CET)
: Hes the kind of retard to not realize they do the same thing when ones turned off. [[User:Communist|Communist]]

==Asexuality==

Me and a friend (who both enjoy this wiki very much) were talking about CWC recently, and we personally think he's asexual, but trying to put up a heterosexual facade because Grown Ups Have Sex; so I added a little bit about that possibility. [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 21:21, 5 August 2009 (CEST)

* The asexuality section is great. I really believe Chris is obsessed with getting laid not out of any perversion or actual sexual desire, but because it's what he believes adulthood is about. And to be honest, sexuality is a big part of being an adult, unfortunately Chris is ignoring things like interpersonal relationships, financial responsibility, work, every single other thing. tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded.

* Alright, it seems that this article is the wrong page for the asexuality bit and that the Chris and Sex page would be a better fit for it, so I'm going to put it over there, then. [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 08:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

*"''tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded.''" Haha, what? Because drawing furfag porn,drinking his [[navy]],the infamous"''I don't know child, what with the dumb laws.''"quote regarding the fact an apparently [[Zapina|14 year old character]] couldn't be in a pornographic film, the also infamous "''I can imagine myself doing it with a collie at least. you know, like Lassie.''"quote and other things aren't signs of serious perversion at all? tl;dr being a furfag,drinking his semen,showing signs of pedophilia, and possibly accepting bestiality remove any weight the "''he's just retarded''" argument has. Even if the semen drinking, and bestiality answer could be passed off as doing things to get [[china]], it would remain that Chris became a furfag and [[pedofork]] on his own will. Oh,and I'd like to see any proof he really isn't a homophobe seeing as he fits the dictionary definition to a T.--[[User:Ror|Ror]] 05:58, 27 September 2009 (CEST)

*I consider several things, now that's it brought up. From the Chris and Sex page "then hoists himself with his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form". Also the fact that he seems to have little care for actual humans, but feel care for his hedgehogs and his dead dog. and the bestiality bits. I think Chris is Asexual to humans, or things he sees as human. He isn't a furfag, because he isn't a furry, and he ain't a furry because he's said "screw that" to anthropomorphized animals, and seems to just like (and "like") non-human animals (because like his dog, his sonichus and such like him for how he is, and don't have stupid human ideas like bathing)[[User:SenorTucan|SenorTucan]] 05:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Revelation? ==

I happened to glance at CWCikipedia's article on[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Dating_Education Dating Education], and I noticed something.

"It is a fact that individuals who were unable to find their opposite-gender Sweetheart or crushes and get lucky before adulthood are likely tempted to turn homo"

Apparently not getting Hanky Panky during teenaged years leads to temptations of being a homo. CWC Science Proven Fact! Anyway, would this be notable enough to put in either this article or Chris and sex, or just forget about it?--[[User:WEsKar|WEsKar]] 20:27, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

: I slipped it into the "Fear of..." section already, but it bears further expansion. This is quite the psycho-sexual revelation on Chris's part. [[User:CDiddles|CDiddles]] 20:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

== "Christopher" (I guess?) faved [http://krapplekomputerkompany.com/cwc/img/1251873110513.jpg this] ==

Christopher also does [http://krapplekomputerkompany.com/cwc/img/1252025256932.jpg a lot] of other shit like that right now. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:32, 4 September 2009 (CEST)

==Mother's Underwear==
Does anyone know when and why he posted that picture?[[User:Skwrr|Skwrr]] 21:52, 13 October 2009 (CEST)

The picture of Chris in his mom's underwear is an older picture from '07-'08. Why he put it on and uploaded it? 1. You'll have to see the [[sports bra]] article. 2. What can we expect from someone who bows like a girl, penetrates like a girl, and collects my little ponies? 3. A troll made him do it.

--[[User:Scarletdragon|Scarletdragon]] 04:07, 15 October 2009

*It's from September 2008. Lordsillynipples posed as Blanca and "Blanca" told Chris he would leave him if he didn't wear his mother's underwear, hence why he's not wearing a shit eating grin. I swore there was an article on just those pictures but I forget what it was called. I swore that this was something Chris did before on his own (try on his mother's underwear) but apparently, I was mistaken. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:39, 15 October 2009 (CEST)

==Home Gene==
I was reading mailbag on the CWCipedia, and one 'fan' posed a question that Chris gave a rather interesting answer to. They asked how Chris was going to rehabilitate the homos after the Dating ED episode in the comic, and Chris explained how he ends up out of the time void a year after the present where scientists have isolated the genes for homo and heterosexuality. He offers his straight blood in order to create a vaccine for gayness, and will take it back to his time period. --[[User:Rye|Rye]] 6:18, 19 November 2009

=="Chris on his alleged homosexuality" needs updating==
I am 99% positive Chris has said something denying he's a homosexual since the most recent quote on the list. We need to update it with other ones (make sure they're some variant of the existing ones, that is Chris denying he's gay and that he's STRAIGHT). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:18, 30 November 2009 (CET)

==Heather Iglesias==
"Curiously, Chris goes out of his way to state that the children of Sonichu and Rosechu (that is, the fictional actors who portray them, and not the doubly-fictional characters themselves, if you want to add another layer of crazy to the parfait of suck that is the Sonichu series) are watched over by [[Heather Iglesias]]..."

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean; I don't remember Chris ever saying that Sonichu and Rosechu are actors. If I'm wrong, feel free to add back with a source. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 03:41, 9 December 2009 (CET)

== Chris hates lesbians now ==

Chris dislikes the lesbians just like the homos. He said this answering a question in a recent Mailbag. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 12:02, 21 December 2009 (CET)

Srsly guys. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:15, 26 December 2009 (CET)

Also is there any "update needed" tag on CWCki? --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:16, 26 December 2009 (CET)

...also I guess I'm starting to take all this too seriously. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:17, 26 December 2009 (CET)
*I'm gonna make a separate article about lesbians sometime soon, titled [[Dykes Dykes China|Dykes]], since lesbians and male homosexuals don't mean exactly the same to Chris. --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 10:33, 26 December 2009 (CET)
*An update needed tag would be handy, good thinking Sonijew. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:10, 31 December 2009 (CET)

== Chris needs to realize this. ==

Lets just say Chris finally learns to accept himself for who he is (Gay, bisexual at LEAST), ALOT of trolls would stop, because most, if not all of the trolls arent homophobic. Chris really brought this upon himself, its a classic example of a "Victim Complex". ITs kinda like how CHRIS is the one who posted the picture of sonichu on 4chan, yet he blames the site.
-[[User:CJB8895|Cody]] 12:08 AM
:I have never seen proof that Chris himself posted the picture of Sonichu on 4chan. [[User:RobGoblin|RobGoblin]] 03:49, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:A better comparison would be how he uploaded [[Shecameforcwc.jpg]] to [[ED]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 04:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== TARD LOGIC ==

Doesn't Chris realize that turning all the homos straight would decrease his risk of finding a boyfriend-free girl?
I mean if he truly wanted to have a BFG he would want all jerks to be homos--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:I think that's been pointed out to him before in the Mailbag and he essentially blew that person off. Chris might be aware of this but he just doesn't seem to care (like so many other things). --[[User:GotAFish|GotAFish]] 08:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

==Phobia==
I'd just like to point out that phobia isn't a fear of X, it's an irrational fear of X. So is it okay to change the line "he is literally afraid of homosexuality..." into "he is literally , and irrationally, afraid of homosexuality..." or would this just be too silly/too much?[[User:SenorTucan|SenorTucan]] 05:10, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Homos

2010-09-27T02:55:45Z

Communist: /* Expand to include Lesbians? */

==To do==
*All of Chris's quotes asserting his heterosexuality
*Picture of Chris in his mom's underwear
*His comments against homos

==Expand to include Lesbians?==
This could be the topic of a separate article, but how would you people feel about including lesbians into this one? It's an interesting evolution of Chris's ideas. Originally, Chris was perfectly fine with lesbians, as he'd only have male homosexuals jailed and programmed whiled lesbians would be safe. Obviously, the reason why Chris likes lesbians is because they don't make him question his sexuality. I forget what exactly prompted it but I think maybe it was all the comments from trolls about how he's a hypocrite that he decided to start hating lesbians as well, as first seen in the "Boyfriend" music video.

I think this would be a good topic that should be discussed somewhere here on the CWCki, but should we include it into the homos article or should we delve into it in a separate article? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:45, 26 November 2009 (CET)
* Its more believable that he was rejected by a woman claiming truthfully or not that she was a lesbian and he suddenly realized that lesbian does not equal bisexual lesbian equal lesbian. [[User:Communist|Communist]]

==Sex Toys thing==

Good so far, but I edited the thing about the anal beads. I've actually ordered from AdamAndEve.com before and they generally give you a choice of a toy or a DVD. Furthermore, the toy is usually based on what you order - order a fake pussy or something like that, and you'll get something like a fake cocksucker. Order something phallic and you'll get something phallic as a free gift (i.e. order a dildo, you'll get anal beads). It's been a while since I last ordered form them (pro tip: Amazon is actually cheaper) but I do believe you can opt out. I do believe that one of Chris's dildo (not his vibrator) he actually BOUGHT because (and I'm paraphrasing his own word) it was only like $1.99 or something like that. The moar you know. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:36, 14 March 2009 (CET)

: Whoa whoa whoa, back up. Chris has a dildo AND a vibrtator? --[[User:MachPunch|MachPunch]] 19:39, 15 March 2009 (CET)

==Asexuality==

Me and a friend (who both enjoy this wiki very much) were talking about CWC recently, and we personally think he's asexual, but trying to put up a heterosexual facade because Grown Ups Have Sex; so I added a little bit about that possibility. [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 21:21, 5 August 2009 (CEST)

* The asexuality section is great. I really believe Chris is obsessed with getting laid not out of any perversion or actual sexual desire, but because it's what he believes adulthood is about. And to be honest, sexuality is a big part of being an adult, unfortunately Chris is ignoring things like interpersonal relationships, financial responsibility, work, every single other thing. tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded.

* Alright, it seems that this article is the wrong page for the asexuality bit and that the Chris and Sex page would be a better fit for it, so I'm going to put it over there, then. [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 08:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

*"''tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded.''" Haha, what? Because drawing furfag porn,drinking his [[navy]],the infamous"''I don't know child, what with the dumb laws.''"quote regarding the fact an apparently [[Zapina|14 year old character]] couldn't be in a pornographic film, the also infamous "''I can imagine myself doing it with a collie at least. you know, like Lassie.''"quote and other things aren't signs of serious perversion at all? tl;dr being a furfag,drinking his semen,showing signs of pedophilia, and possibly accepting bestiality remove any weight the "''he's just retarded''" argument has. Even if the semen drinking, and bestiality answer could be passed off as doing things to get [[china]], it would remain that Chris became a furfag and [[pedofork]] on his own will. Oh,and I'd like to see any proof he really isn't a homophobe seeing as he fits the dictionary definition to a T.--[[User:Ror|Ror]] 05:58, 27 September 2009 (CEST)

*I consider several things, now that's it brought up. From the Chris and Sex page "then hoists himself with his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form". Also the fact that he seems to have little care for actual humans, but feel care for his hedgehogs and his dead dog. and the bestiality bits. I think Chris is Asexual to humans, or things he sees as human. He isn't a furfag, because he isn't a furry, and he ain't a furry because he's said "screw that" to anthropomorphized animals, and seems to just like (and "like") non-human animals (because like his dog, his sonichus and such like him for how he is, and don't have stupid human ideas like bathing)[[User:SenorTucan|SenorTucan]] 05:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Revelation? ==

I happened to glance at CWCikipedia's article on[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Dating_Education Dating Education], and I noticed something.

"It is a fact that individuals who were unable to find their opposite-gender Sweetheart or crushes and get lucky before adulthood are likely tempted to turn homo"

Apparently not getting Hanky Panky during teenaged years leads to temptations of being a homo. CWC Science Proven Fact! Anyway, would this be notable enough to put in either this article or Chris and sex, or just forget about it?--[[User:WEsKar|WEsKar]] 20:27, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

: I slipped it into the "Fear of..." section already, but it bears further expansion. This is quite the psycho-sexual revelation on Chris's part. [[User:CDiddles|CDiddles]] 20:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

== "Christopher" (I guess?) faved [http://krapplekomputerkompany.com/cwc/img/1251873110513.jpg this] ==

Christopher also does [http://krapplekomputerkompany.com/cwc/img/1252025256932.jpg a lot] of other shit like that right now. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:32, 4 September 2009 (CEST)

==Mother's Underwear==
Does anyone know when and why he posted that picture?[[User:Skwrr|Skwrr]] 21:52, 13 October 2009 (CEST)

The picture of Chris in his mom's underwear is an older picture from '07-'08. Why he put it on and uploaded it? 1. You'll have to see the [[sports bra]] article. 2. What can we expect from someone who bows like a girl, penetrates like a girl, and collects my little ponies? 3. A troll made him do it.

--[[User:Scarletdragon|Scarletdragon]] 04:07, 15 October 2009

*It's from September 2008. Lordsillynipples posed as Blanca and "Blanca" told Chris he would leave him if he didn't wear his mother's underwear, hence why he's not wearing a shit eating grin. I swore there was an article on just those pictures but I forget what it was called. I swore that this was something Chris did before on his own (try on his mother's underwear) but apparently, I was mistaken. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:39, 15 October 2009 (CEST)

==Home Gene==
I was reading mailbag on the CWCipedia, and one 'fan' posed a question that Chris gave a rather interesting answer to. They asked how Chris was going to rehabilitate the homos after the Dating ED episode in the comic, and Chris explained how he ends up out of the time void a year after the present where scientists have isolated the genes for homo and heterosexuality. He offers his straight blood in order to create a vaccine for gayness, and will take it back to his time period. --[[User:Rye|Rye]] 6:18, 19 November 2009

=="Chris on his alleged homosexuality" needs updating==
I am 99% positive Chris has said something denying he's a homosexual since the most recent quote on the list. We need to update it with other ones (make sure they're some variant of the existing ones, that is Chris denying he's gay and that he's STRAIGHT). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:18, 30 November 2009 (CET)

==Heather Iglesias==
"Curiously, Chris goes out of his way to state that the children of Sonichu and Rosechu (that is, the fictional actors who portray them, and not the doubly-fictional characters themselves, if you want to add another layer of crazy to the parfait of suck that is the Sonichu series) are watched over by [[Heather Iglesias]]..."

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean; I don't remember Chris ever saying that Sonichu and Rosechu are actors. If I'm wrong, feel free to add back with a source. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 03:41, 9 December 2009 (CET)

== Chris hates lesbians now ==

Chris dislikes the lesbians just like the homos. He said this answering a question in a recent Mailbag. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 12:02, 21 December 2009 (CET)

Srsly guys. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:15, 26 December 2009 (CET)

Also is there any "update needed" tag on CWCki? --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:16, 26 December 2009 (CET)

...also I guess I'm starting to take all this too seriously. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 10:17, 26 December 2009 (CET)
*I'm gonna make a separate article about lesbians sometime soon, titled [[Dykes Dykes China|Dykes]], since lesbians and male homosexuals don't mean exactly the same to Chris. --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 10:33, 26 December 2009 (CET)
*An update needed tag would be handy, good thinking Sonijew. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:10, 31 December 2009 (CET)

== Chris needs to realize this. ==

Lets just say Chris finally learns to accept himself for who he is (Gay, bisexual at LEAST), ALOT of trolls would stop, because most, if not all of the trolls arent homophobic. Chris really brought this upon himself, its a classic example of a "Victim Complex". ITs kinda like how CHRIS is the one who posted the picture of sonichu on 4chan, yet he blames the site.
-[[User:CJB8895|Cody]] 12:08 AM
:I have never seen proof that Chris himself posted the picture of Sonichu on 4chan. [[User:RobGoblin|RobGoblin]] 03:49, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:A better comparison would be how he uploaded [[Shecameforcwc.jpg]] to [[ED]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 04:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== TARD LOGIC ==

Doesn't Chris realize that turning all the homos straight would decrease his risk of finding a boyfriend-free girl?
I mean if he truly wanted to have a BFG he would want all jerks to be homos--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:I think that's been pointed out to him before in the Mailbag and he essentially blew that person off. Chris might be aware of this but he just doesn't seem to care (like so many other things). --[[User:GotAFish|GotAFish]] 08:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

==Phobia==
I'd just like to point out that phobia isn't a fear of X, it's an irrational fear of X. So is it okay to change the line "he is literally afraid of homosexuality..." into "he is literally , and irrationally, afraid of homosexuality..." or would this just be too silly/too much?[[User:SenorTucan|SenorTucan]] 05:10, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Semen

2010-09-27T02:50:33Z

Communist:

==To do==
*Add Chris's references to semen from the Skype chat
*Format chat transcript into a block quote.

Should the Fanta video be embedded here? [[User:Mantitx|Mantitx]] 19:03, 18 April 2009 (CEST)

*Now that there's a YouTube version, sure. Though I think there should still be an article devoted to those three videos (something catchy like "The Trilogy of Horrors videos") to discuss the three videos, their origins, etc.)--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:06, 19 April 2009 (CEST)
*It was just removed for a community guidelines violation. CWCki is mostly organized by subject, maybe it should also be organized by source like the Captain's Log videos are. [[User:Mantitx|Mantitx]] 12:53, 19 April 2009 (CEST)

== picture you could use ==

[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcfiles/index.php?q=/post/view/512 got milk?]--

==Dry Heave==

Oh my god, I literally almost got sick seeing those pictures. I don't know why. I mean, wtf. I can look at all sorts of horrible shit, but this is...

Eugh. [[User:DeLemonoid|DeLemonoid]] 23:21, 10 May 2009 (CEST)

==No Wonder He Tries To Conserve It...==

Is it just me, or does it seem pretty damn sad that he considers the amount of cum in the infamous Fanta video "a lot"? --[[User:FrankTheTank|FrankTheTank]] 17:54, 25 November 2009 (CET)
:He seems to think everything he does, ever, is epic in proportion. He is mighty! He is virile! He is the picture of health and artistic achievement! He's just that delusional. [[User:EnsignDisposable|EnsignDisposable]] 19:59, 25 November 2009 (CET)
::Heh, true that. God, annoying as he is, it sure is nice to have someone to look at and go, "At least I'm nowhere NEAR being him." --[[User:FrankTheTank|FrankTheTank]] 01:08, 29 November 2009 (CET)

==I know he likes Monty Python but..==
Could he have possibly misinterpreted this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8 I mean he's dumb enough. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]

==Removed Stupidity==
Removed "Get it? The navy is a bunch of ''seamen'' amirite? WAKKA WAKKA!" Because it's both unnecessary and unfunny. [[User:Cake|Cake]]
==Point out his stupid==
He believes that he is saving his future children by drinking his jizz right so why does he drink it with the acidic Fanta which actually works as a crude spermicide because of the acid in it so he essentially horribly burned his children to death. [[User:Communist|Communist]]

User:Comunist

2010-09-26T17:45:33Z

Communist: Created page with "/TG/ user who discovered the horror of sonichu through /CO/ THE BASTARDS!"

/TG/ user who discovered the horror of sonichu through /CO/ THE BASTARDS!

Talk:White knight

2010-09-26T17:43:38Z

Communist:

Svenka really isn't the same sort of counter-troll as Robert Simmons V. Bob was actually a troll, who fought the trolls to gain Chris's trust and he turned out to be a pretty heck of a troll (see the church audio). Svenka is a troll who seems to be doing this because s/he thinks it's funny to fuck with us fucking with Chris instead of fucking with Chris. The two really are different sorts of creatures. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:23, 5 May 2009 (CEST)
: More importantly, is there a reason the church audio isn't mentioned in [[Robert Simmons V]] or [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]]? [[User:Axe|Axe]] 08:19, 5 May 2009 (CEST)
:* Actually, no, and I just think it's because people forgot it exists because it only came out like, a day before the date Chris had with Emily. That and no one felt like listening to an audio that was mostly a church sermon with Chris either singing loudly or saying "HMMMM, INTERESTING" very loudly to things the pastor was saying. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:27, 6 May 2009 (CEST)

==Chris is abusing his monthly tugboat==
Chris is stealing our taxpayer's money.. and I believe "Old Time Rock And Roll on Shredwud" is the worst example of him abusing his monthly tugboat.
Pulled out from one YouTube user's comment: "As Americans suffer the worst recession in living memory, with tens millions of people struggling to put food on the table and keep the lights on, a lazy, would-be rapist and pedophile spends his days playing video games at taxpayers expense."

Should I point this out as one of the few reasons why White Knighting should be justified?
--[[User:Shogun|shogun]] 05:30, 19 October 2009 (CEST)

==Redirects from Counter trolls and anti trolls==

I think these two ideas can be mentioned briefly in this article, but since they're not, I think they need to be in order to keep the redirect. It seems that anti-trolls and counter trolls are not the same as white knights.

White knights are people who see Chris and go "BAWWWWWWWWWW, he's an autistic, people are bullying him, I should troll them instead since they're being mean" or "LEAVE CHRIS ALONE!" I can't think of too many genuine white knights. Maybe Harbal was.

Counter trolls are people who see us and say "Wow, these fuckers spend all their time trolling a retard and that's fucking pathetic. I want to fuck things up for them." I think this might be Svenka's real intention, not so much a genuine concern for Chris but because she gets some joy of fucking up the efforts to fuck up Chris.

Anti-trolls are people who decide to work false flag and act like they're on Chris's side, fighting off trolls and making videos in hope of gaining Chris's trust. This is what Robert Simmons V more or less did, troll Chris by pretending to fight the trolls in order to gain his trust. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:34, 6 May 2009 (CEST)

: You're right, I made a mistake. This article already encompasses both white knights and counter trolls (with or without hyphen?) and I think it should stay that way because the listed reasons can apply to both groups. If it stays, it should be restructured a little and renamed to something like [[White knights and counter trolls]]. Then write a short article on [[Anti-troll]], or redirect it to [[Trolls]]? [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:51, 7 May 2009 (CEST)

== Moar on the white knight antics ==

There's moar [[User:Anonymous/CWCville Archives#Quixotic Avenger/CriticalMindz (AKA No More Cyber Crimes/Quixotic Avenger, AKA 9v47w1hk0jyr|here]]. --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 07:29, 7 May 2009 (CEST)

== Block vs. Ban ==

Blocking and banning are different on Wikipedia. A ban is an outright, written "You [the person, not the account] are not allowed on Wikipedia anymore" instated by the ''whole community'', while a block is just ''one admin'' blocking the ''account''. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] 03:51, 12 August 2009 (CEST)
: True - in case of Wikipedia. However, I was talking about Chris's behaviour websites in general. I don't mind either term being used in the article, though - in most other websites, these terms would be mostly synonymous. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 11:18, 25 August 2009 (CEST)

==empathy==
In the Empathy section, there is a note that the people in question empathizing with Chris are autistic; it reads awkwardly because all auts lack empathy and are, by definition, psychopaths. --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 01:22, 9 December 2009 (CET)
*hahaha what? sauce plz --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 04:03, 9 December 2009 (CET)

== How serious should this article be? ==

There is a website called [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page RationalWiki] that primarily exists to uncover the lulz that pseudoscience pushers promote. (Think of it as ED for geeks, if it helps.) The contributors generally take a humorous approach on a lot of topics. Yet, at some point, they found out that the article on [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Andrew_Schlafly Andy Schlafly] was ranked high in Google, so they decided that the article should be serious and factual in tone, so that people who're considering paying money for ''(*ahem*)'' high quality home-schooling tutoring and online courses at a family-friendly ''(*ahem*)'' encyclopedia would know what they're getting.

So this brings me to this question. This is a relatively important article, and I hope that most people read this early on when they first stumble into the big mess that Chris has made. This article is already fairly serious in tone, and is shaping up into a nice guide on the topic of "why helping Chris has been found futile, and why the trolls actually have a good point". Should we put in some deliberate effort and place in guidelines here to make sure this article stays that way? "This is an important article. Feel free to improve it. Just keep in mind, more so than usual, that you shouldn't ruin it." --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 14:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

:Good thought there Wwwwolf. That's a question that covers more areas of the CWCki than just this article, and I've never really seen it addressed. Conventional wisdom seem to be:'If Champthom likes it, then it's good enough for me'. Problem is, I'm never sure what Champ actually likes. Policy time? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 16:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

::Perhaps a protocol (it sounds cooler than policy). You could set a number of guidelines/rules regarding how a page should be created and maintained. I think in light of the Wallflower incident it would be a good idea since the Cwcki should be held to a higher standard (than, say, the ED). Sounds like there should be a topic page on this issue. --[[User:Caboose_-1|Caboose_-1]] 22:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

:::We have some of those rules in place already. Style hasn't been addressed in detail though. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 17:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

::*Style is something we need to work on. However, let me address first this article and then about what makes a good CWCki page and the rationale of what I think is good.

:::To be honest, I'm not a fan of this page. It's very well written, don't get me wrong, but it's not very encyclopedic. It's more of an essay on why one shouldn't white knight for Chris than an article that one would look for information about past white knighting attempts for Chris. Personally, I'm not even a big fan of what constitutes a white knight since in some circles, anyone who doesn't want to see Chris hit in the face with a baseball bat is a "white knight." There's also a tendency to assume that people knew everything we know about Chris now back in 2008. Vivian's AIM chat with Chris is perceived as "white knighting" when this was back when people thought that maybe Chris could be reasoned with.

:::However, I tend to leave it be since it's an exception for the rule. If we were strict, then [[Audiobooks]] would need to go in the Fan index because there's plenty of other fan works Chris has mentioned before that don't have their own entries but it's the exception to the rule given the fact it's core of troll culture. Likewise, this article is an interesting look at meta-trolling, that is topics that arise from trolling Chris himself. Fuck, in a way this article could very be reworked to be called "Meta-trolling" but nobody would know what the fuck that means.

:::I think it's very possible to make this page better, though I'm not entirely sure how. I know ED has a template along the lines of "This article is good, don't fuck with it" so maybe something along the lines of this here?

:::Also, let me all let you in on a secret - I tend to run CWCki in a [[Wikipedia:Common law|common law]] fashion. I try to see myself as the judge, I generally look to Wikipedia to see how they handle things (in other words, established precedence) and as things come up here, I try to establish a precedent based on the circumstances and try to find a general principle to govern things. Ideally, a wiki should work that when people collaborate, some sort of order arises spontaneously that works for us.

:::Just like we're [[CWCki:NOTED|not ED]], we're also not Wikipedia. We're CWCki. We can do what works for us. I personally think we should lean towards Wikipedia than ED, but we have flexibility.

:::Now, what makes a good page and when should it be created? There's obvious cases when a page should be made - new media arises, that sort of thing. But what about something else? First, ask - "How does this relate to Chris? Is this something crucial into understanding Chris?" I recall around the time of the [[Father Call]], people wanted a page for Matt Devoria. But then you ask - "Can this material be incorporated into another page? Can it be done without going off on in another direction?" Easily Matt Devoria can be incorporated into the Father Call - otherwise, you have an article where it's along the lines of "Matthew Devoria is [[Kacey]]'s father" and that's it. Furthermore, is it essential to know who Matthew Devoria is outside the context of how he relates to Chris? Obviously you need to know something about [[Clyde Cash]] or any of Chris's sweethearts in order to understand why Chris is rambling on about these people and how they're connected to Chris. Then, ask "Is it exceptional enough to have an entire article written about it?" Someone pointed out that it was odd that [[Heather Inglesias]] has her own page despite being an off screen character while certain characters who have actually appeared in the comic have not. I believe such a page is warranted because the reasons ''why'' Chris created Heather (to appease people into thinking he's not a total homophobe, such that it would ruin his chances for china) gives us some insight into Chris's mind.

:::If I delete a page, it's usually for a few reasons. Obvious reason #1 is namefagging - someone thinks they're troll persona is SO COOL that they deserve an entire page about it (this hasn't happened in quite some time). Most common reason is usually because it's something that can be incorporated into another article or really doesn't deserve an entire article. I recall people making articles for those radio shows Chris appeared on and I deleted those articles because a one like reference to those shows could easily be made in the content they discuss (I think someone made an article for a transcript of the show, which is kinda iffy, IMHO. Need to consider that). A lot of the time though, it's people don't plan. They make an article, might write one sentence and that's it. You don't have to write the entire article in advance (though it helps), but at least leave an idea of what you're aiming at on the talk page so people know how to proceed. If you make a page, say "Chris and his parents," don't write a one sentence like "Chris doesn't get along with his parents (I'm not saying this should be a page, just an example). Sometimes it's not so much I delete a page because I think it shouldn't be a page but it's just so awful and all over the place that I think it should be scrapped and people start over. If it looks like people put considerable work into it, then I'll usually make a subpage of the original page creator's user page so they can work on it before making it a proper article again.

:::Style, I agree, is one thing we could work on, namely in tone and whatnot. But as I said, we do have flexibility and we can do what works. Personally, I'm not a big fan of setting everything in stone since that can ruin flexibility as people point to the rules and say "See? You have to do it MY way!" I do think that the [[CWCki:Style|Style guide]] needs some work in terms of tone. We really should be avoiding essays like this article and focus more on encyclopedic toned articles, yet still make articles pleasurable to read to encourage people to utilize the CWCki. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:16, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Champ, it's times like these that I remember how much I love you. You're saying you want some work on the style guide? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 11:36, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

==TV Tropes==

I spotted a TV Tropes white knight attempt on the Sonichu page, so I added it. By the way, does this article need rewriting? I'm inclined to think so. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 00:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:Tropers aren't bad people, (though they are often people with incredibly bad taste). I assume whoever wrote that read this article in full, and really genuinely wants Chris to stop being such a monumental screwup. Their linking it back here is probably their way of admitting that it's (low-level) white knighting, and that it really is futile.
:Granted, it's all a moot point because Chris has never read TVtropes.
:Anyways I think this article is pretty good, but Ronichu, so far all your works have been awesome, so if you have plans to make it better, by all means go nuts.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:32, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not really sure if this can classify as "white knighting". It's "inadvertent white knighting" at best. They don't seem to have any intention of stopping the trolling or even acknowledge the trolls outside of "all your fans are trolls". Other white knights we have on here have directly tried to interfere with trolling/stop it. I don't think that's the case here. While Chris getting help might put an end to trolling him, I doubt they had that in mind, not that it's ever even going to happen. Basically, I'm saying, "should we just remove this section" or "can we re-write it to point out that their white knighting is unintentional"?--[[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]][[User:Anon1Guardian|DrSerbia]][[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]] 15:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Anyone think Chris did infact see the message and erased it himself? [[User:SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 21:32, 8 August 2010 ((EST))
:*That's not his style. If he saw it, based on the CWCki vandalism, he'd probably blank the page and then add a whole bunch of 'TVTropes is a load of BULL!' style comments. Subtley is not sonething Chris does, ever, with anything. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:54, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
:*It is known why it was taken down it was part of a general attempt to avoid flamebait and they knew someone somewhere would link Chris to the page and start an edit war. [[user:Comunist|Sam]]