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Kacey Call 12

2014-05-29T10:59:36Z

Cricket: minor correction about chris's blood donation

A brief overview of the call:

*First yoga class for [[Chris]].
*[[Kacey]] trying to sound smart about medical stuff, Chris doesn't care.
*Chris trying to tell [[trolls]] that call him that Kacey is his girlfriend, Kacey said "we're just friends".
*Unwilling to get a new cell phone number because he would have to update the number on [[PSN]] but it's too much effort.
*Chris talks about Burger King food, says that oatmeal is veggies.
*Chris says that he needs to move out of his house and get a job before he learns to cook for himself.
*[[Kim]] told him to go to yoga class.
*Chris trying to talk about how sitting in different positions makes it impossible to breathe. He and Kacey argue about it.
*Walking around [[mall]] = exercise.
*Gamestop employee recognized Chris and took a picture with him
*Chris gave blood. This means that someone has part of Chris inside of them. THIS MEANS SOMEONE HAS CHRIS INSIDE OF THEM.
*Chris trying to explain that he did a double red cell donation while Kacey insists that she knows what plasma donation is- two totally different things.
*Chris sent out [[Sonichu 0]] to Marvel, Dark Horse, and Archie.
*Kacey: "You know how you said I weighed a lot? how much do you think Kim weighs?" Chris: "175-150, somewhere between there." Kacey: "How much do you weigh?" Chris: "last time I checked 215-220."
*Chris actually seems interested in blood types.
*Chris says that his mind goes blank because he is too creative for his thoughts. He refers to himself as a "creative genius".
*Chris says that the way the brain works is the same as computers: random access memory.
*Chris is writing a 500 word essay about [[autism]] for Kacey. He tries to emphasize how great he is for doing this.

==Video==

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| Featuring = [[Chris]]; [[Kacey]]
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| previous = [[Kacey Call 11]]
| next = [[Kacey Call 13]]
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'''Chris:''' Hello? 
'''Kacey:''' Hey! It’s Kacey, what’s up? 
'''Chris:''' Hey Kacey I was waiting for you 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah? [Laughs] You know, work just keeps trying to make me stay late so, um- 
'''Chris:''' Yeah 
'''Kacey:''' What’s up? 
'''Chris:''' Oh, you know, this and that. I went to my first yoga class today that was good. I feel like- 
'''Kacey:''' Oh, that’s exciting! 
'''Chris:''' Uh, I’m sorry what? 
'''Kacey:''' I said that’s exciting 
'''Chris:''' Oh, OK yeah it was, and it was very good. It was also, you know, classes uh, weekly apparently, so I’ll definitely be going to future ones including the one next week. 
'''Kacey:''' That’s cool, well I mean, you know you must be happy because of all the endorphins that are running through your body because that happens after exercise. I mean, do you feel more relaxed, because you sound kind of stressed right now. 
'''Chris:''' Aw yeah well, little bit, um [sigh]. I was expecting, I was expecting you to call and then like, you know, you know, you come in as unavailable or restricted you know. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh-huh 
'''Chris:''' There’s been this, this troll, I think this troll is just trying to call me back, you know I’m hearing the beeping like and go figure the damn troll turned out to have been a female troll. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh 
'''Chris:''' I was like I told her, “quit calling me here I’m expecting a call from my girlfriend!” 
'''Kacey:''' WHAT? 
'''Chris:''' I’m sorry, I mean- I mean, it was just a troll. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh, you said it as an excuse. Right, right. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, but anyway- 
'''Kacey:''' Because I know you don’t think that of me right now because we’re friends. But- 
'''Chris:''' I mean you are a girl and you are my friend 
'''Kacey:''' Right, right 
'''Chris:''' So you are my girl friend. 
'''Kacey:''' [Laughs] 
'''Chris:''' I understand that. Yeah, okay, so anyway then the girl had the nerve to call me back and she said, “Your girlfriend's a blow-up doll.” That’s how then I learned that it was a woman- female troll. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh gosh, did her number come through? 
'''Chris:''' No she was a restricted number. 
'''Kacey:''' Ugh… Well maybe you should get a new phone number, you know, and not give it out to the trolls. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah but unfortunately I got this phone number linked up on my resume, and it’s in my Playstation Network account, and a whole lot- 
'''Kacey:''' Well you know you can change all those things, but I understand, I mean yeah that is difficult. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, and my father would tell you the same thing as well you know. He would change the home phone number, but so many things that’s linked to. A lot more than mine, I tell you what. [Sound of door opening] Anyway, aside from that. I here and my father went out within the Burger King at lunch and I didn’t get my walk in at the, around the neighborhood like I would have wanted to beforehand because of that. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh-huh. 
'''Chris:''' I had a side salad, you know usually I go there cause this Burger King gives two Whoppers for three dollars, um I- 
'''Kacey:''' Well when did you wake up? 
'''Chris:''' Probably I got up around 11:30 this morning 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah I guess that’s a little early for you, because normally you wake up around noon (laughs) 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, [inaudible] but I expected my father to, like you know, he would want to go out to Burger so I had a bowl of oatmeal- 
'''Kacey:''' Uh-huh 
'''Chris:''' -and then, you know, that got me filled so all I really needed was the side salad, so I spent a dollar on that 
'''Kacey:''' Well oatmeal is supposed to be very filling so I’m surprised you needed a salad after that. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah maybe, this was like an hour or two after I had the oatmeal. 
'''Kacey:''' Wow, I don’t get hungry till, like, much later but- [laughs] 
'''Chris:''' It was just something to munch on anyway. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh huh 
'''Chris:''' You know vegetables are always good for you anyway. Anyway, aside from that I- After we got back home I had to leave right away because, you know…[stuttering] yesterday I went up to Harris Teeter because my mom needed some more water that was on- you know bottles of waters on sale for a dollar or two less than the Food Lion. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh huh 
'''Chris:''' Actually while I was there I looked up your Febreze, because you know, when we were talking I wasn’t sure if you were talking about air freshener or fabric softener. I realized that Febreze does make fabric refresher and I realized that’s what you were talking about. 
'''Kacey:''' Right 
'''Chris:''' So I went over to Target and found that it was on a temporary fifty cent price cut there. So I bought me a bottle of the lavender scented. But then my mom was telling me, “Oh yeah there’s like a bottle of Febreze, there’s like a thing of Febreze in the car”- I wasn’t sure what she was talking about, It thought she was talking about the air freshener. I mean I thought she was talking about the air freshener 
'''Kacey:''' Uh-huh 
'''Chris:''' But then I come home with the lavender scented Febreze fabric refresher but it turns out that was a bottle of fabric refresher too except it was the allergen reducer. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh okay 
'''Chris:''' Yeah 
'''Kacey:''' I don’t really like the way that one smells, so- 
'''Chris:''' The allergen reducer 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah, It just doesn’t have- It smells clean but I don’t like it 
'''Chris:''' Hmm. Okay, I sampled- smelled the two anyway and uh, I kinda liked the allergen reducer a little better, so I’ll finish that up and I’ll get the lavender scented one, but I needed a few more dollars in my wallet anyway so I ended up returning the lavender scented one. 
'''Kacey:''' Wait, you returned something you already used? 
'''Chris:''' No I didn’t use it, all I had to do was just unscrew the top and smell it 
'''Kacey:''' Hmm… still you opened it and that makes it, that’s just not safe. Either way 
'''Chris:''' Anyway they still took it back and I got my four-something back. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay 
'''Chris:''' So I’ll finish up the allergen reducer and then like, you know, I’ll spend the five bucks and get the lavender again. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay 
'''Chris:''' Which reminds me, yeah, I need to let you know about my current finances, I just haven’t been able to lately because I was busy. Anyway, yeah, went to Target, returned the Febreze, and then also I ordered something from Goodwill that came with a free gift which is like a three set- set of three kitchen tongs. Couldn’t reuse [inaudible] at the time so I donated them to Goodwill and then I went to Greenbrier Drive from Kim to find the dance studio where the pole dancing class was. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh huh 
'''Chris:''' But I was being held up, and I couldn’t find it. Then you know, I just talked to Kim she told me it’s around Greenbrier Drive. I was like, oh well, I’ll Google it later anyway. I’ll find out for sure where it is. What street address at- 
'''Kacey:''' So why did you buy kitchen tongs are you going to start cooking? 
'''Chris:''' No I did not buy these. These were a free gift. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh 
'''Chris:''' It was like a free supplies 
'''Kacey:''' Okay 
'''Chris:''' So I didn’t expect- 
'''Kacey:''' Maybe you should start cooking. 
'''Chris:''' Hmm, yeah. I can and I will, you know, start cooking for myself more often. But you know, one day at a time. I’d like to feel more independent, you know. Get myself a job and maybe move out of the house or whatever, mmm, moving on to what happened today. After I went searching for the dance studio on Greenbrier Drive, then I just moved ahead to the Western [inaudible] building and attended the yoga class. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay 
'''Chris:''' I met a new girl- I met a new female friend. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh cool! 
'''Chris:''' We talked a little bit but it’s not like we exchanged phone numbers or email addresses. Her name is Lauren, she’s a UVA student. She’s majoring in, well she’s not sure yet, but she’s taking politics. 
'''Kacey:''' Politics? 
'''Chris:''' Yeah 
'''Kacey:''' I guess she’s going to be a political science major. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah probably, yeah, I think she said so, yeah she said political science. Yeah there you go you just took the words out of her mouth [laughs] 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah, [laughs] political science majors! 
'''Chris:''' Yeah but anyway, apparently she attended church the past couple of Sundays as well. So it was like, you know, first time we met so I said, you know, I’ll see you next Sunday in church- there we are. And then, you know, maybe I can get, maybe we’ll share email addresses then. 
'''Kacey:''' You should, I’m surprised you didn’t already. Especially if you think she’s a friend. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah I mean, like, you know, we just met. 
'''Kacey:''' Still I’ve exchanged email addresses right away 
'''Chris:''' Yeah well, Okay, yeah I’ll see about that next time I see her. Either on Sunday or next Wednesday. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay, well hopefully you do see her. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, but anyway, I learned a lot about the yoga poses. Actually I heard a new meaning, I mean, I’ve heard the expression “open your heart” before, like from the Sonic Adventure. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh huh 
'''Chris:''' But the way the yoga teacher it was like lift up your chest. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh huh 
'''Chris:''' So you know, I have a better understanding of what they mean by open your heart, it’s like keep your chest held high. 
'''Kacey:''' Um, It’s actually supposed to be a metaphor and it’s got a lot of interpretations. Like opening your heart means opening up to someone or being respectful it can be interpreted dozens of ways. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah but in terms of the yoga, opening up the heart means lifting your chest and opening it up for the air you’re breathing in 
'''Kacey:''' Well, that doesn’t make sense because your heart doesn’t do your air 
'''Chris:''' Let me put it another way. You’re slouched over and you’re breathing it’s more difficult for the air to get to your lungs and your heart when you’re slouched over. But when you’re straight up in posture then it’s easier for the air to get to your lungs and your heart. 
'''Kacey:''' Um no… What? 
'''Chris:''' Come on, you’re the nurse major you should know that! 
'''Kacey:''' Chris that’s not even remotely true! Just because you’re slouched over doesn’t mean that you can’t get air. 
'''Chris:''' I did not say CAN’T get air, I just said that- 
'''Kacey:''' It doesn’t make it difficult either because your body’s circulatory system takes care of that whether you’re slouched over or not. 
'''Chris:''' Hmm, okay while I didn’t- surely you’ve personally, you’re slouched over and your breath but you found that you had to breathe in more because it was like- a longer trip for the air. I’ve felt that 
'''Kacey:''' Chris it’s the same distance no matter what position you’re in, your body doesn’t (exasperated sigh) 
'''Chris:''' Hmm, Okay well, I don’t know, I just learned a little bit more about the expression open your heart. 
'''Kacey:''' Uh huh 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, So let’s just leave it at that. 
'''Kacey:''' Right. 
'''Chris:''' Okay. So anyway, I really enjoyed the yoga, but since I’ve been not doing my walking and running like I wanted to I did an hour around the Fashion Square Mall before I went home 
'''Kacey:''' That’s good, just remember you’ve got to get your heart rate up, walking doesn’t help all that much. 
'''Chris:''' I think I did a little power walking in there, so yeah. I’ll get there- I mean, I’ll jog more around the neighborhood at my own pace, you know? 
''''Kacey:''' But if you don’t get your heart rate up to a certain level, you’re not going to lose anything. You really should Google this. You have to push yourself. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah… I… yeah. Details I have yet to comprehend about that. Anyway also while I was over at the mall I stopped over at the Gamestop to browse around a little bit, and the black cash- the black guy who was working as a cashier there, you know, working at the Gamestop [sound break] square. Yeah, he recognized me. And he’s also friends with a fellow employee, with the guy who works there named Angel. I met him, and he recognized me that Sunday when I gave blood and participated in that Guitar Hero con- Guitar Hero Tournament. He wanted a picture of me and him together, you know, his fellow employee at the time took the picture. It’s a souvenir for him to gloat about, I made his day. The black guy was talking me, yeah, he and Angel were like, “We’re waiting for you to come out with the official Sonichu merchandise, like especially the official Sonichu doll. We’ve seen all this stuff on the internet but we know it’s not official because you say so, and you didn’t official sign off on it or all that.” So you know- 
'''Kacey:''' Well, did you actually give blood? 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, that Saturday, yeah. 
'''Kacey:''' So somebody is going to have- your blood is going to save somebody’s life. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah but also I double redded. Do you know about that double redding in donating blood? 
'''Kacey:''' You double what? 
'''Chris:''' Double red…Red R-E-D. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay 
'''Chris:''' Okay well I’ll explain it to you, you can probably Google it and find out more. In addition to them taking a pint, taking some of your blood whole, they take a chunk of your blood to. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh, you mean giving plasma 
'''Chris:''' Yeah they took a whole thing of plasma but after that, they have this little machine where they separate the red cells from the plasma and then they give you [sound break] -plasma. Like I said you could Google, and learn more to better understand. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh no, I just know it as giving plasma, that’s fine. 
'''Chris:''' You know, mm’kay. Anyway that’s double red. Two words, you can Google it. It’s a thing that I started probably before that weekend. It’s like, new. 
'''Kacey:''' Well, I’m proud of you for giving blood that’s very noble and stuff, you know? 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, I’ve donated blood before and that’s how I learned I’m an A negative blood type. 
'''Kacey:''' Yes, A negative 
'''Chris:''' Yeah anyway getting back on today, after talking to that guy, you know, I came home. And after I came home I finally printed out the three copies of the Number Zero Book and three copies of my resume. I’m gonna send them out to Marvel, Archie and Dark Horse Comics. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay 
'''Chris:''' And also I’m going to [inaudible] creating all the audiobook videos for Youtube. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay, just remember get those done soon and the pictures. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, I’ll [inaudible] more on the sexy drawings, I’ve already got the three girls on drawing reference so from that point all I have to do- on I can do, yeah, sex drawings. Yeah, and then before I upload those drawings I have to make one or two Youtube videos of me playing of me playing Guitar Hero 5 with my female band. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh are you going to upload those to the CWCipedia because you should. 
'''Chris:''' Mmm yeah, Kim encouraged me to do that in a private area, you know. And the sex drawings I’m probably going to put those like in the- You know I have a section of the Fan Art that guidelines what not to submit for consideration in the Fan Art section? 
'''Kacey:''' Uh huh 
'''Chris:''' I could put the sex drawings there. 
'''Kacey:''' Cool 
'''Chris:''' I put a warning on there, where it’s like you have to be 18 or older to view these. And plus, they’re like drawings, like art pieces I got from the ED Page. 
''''Kacey:''' Okay 
'''Chris:''' Hmm, where was I… Yeah I’ll work more on the drawings tonight, and I’ll get all the audiobooks done tomorrow. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay, well I have a question that’s just going through my mind. Because you told me how much you think I weighed. How much do you think Kim weighs? I just want to see what you think. 
'''Chris:''' How much Kim weighs? I’m not sure, I’d say 175, 150 somewhere between there? 
'''Kacey:''' What did you say again, I’m sorry? 
'''Chris:''' I’d say about 150 to 175 is my guess. 
'''Kacey:''' Oh, okay. So I can’t remember how much you say you weigh. Did you weigh yourself recently? 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, last time I checked, when I was going in for my quad-check up with my doctor, they had to put me on a scale, just to see how much I weighed and do my blood pressure. But yeah- I’m about, somewhere between 215 and 220. 
'''Kacey:''' Well have you done it recently within the past couple of weeks? 
'''Chris:''' Yeah we don’t have a scale here at home so it’s kind of hard for me to do that. 
'''Kacey:''' Maybe you should go get one, who knows? 
'''Chris:''' Yeah 
'''Kacey:''' They probably have one at yoga class 
'''Chris:''' Funny, I did not really see a scale at yoga class or one in the closet where the [inaudible] were, so I don’t know. Mmm. So I just told you my blood type, do you know what your blood type is? 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah it’s A positive. 
'''Chris:''' Wow, we’re so close, we’re both A’s 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah, A is a pretty popular bloodtype 
'''Chris:''' Yeah, it’s not, I mean it’s not- wait a minute. Are the A’s common or uncommon? 
'''Kacey:''' A is pretty common. AB and O are fairly uncommon. It’s A, then B, then O and then AB. 
'''Chris:''' So it’s A, then B, then O, then AB 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah 
'''Chris:''' SO between A positive and A negative is there just an A? 
'''Kacey:''' No it’s A negative and A positive, it has to do with the antigens 
'''Chris:''' The antigens? 
'''Kacey:''' Yes 
'''Chris:''' Okay that’s a new word to me. 
'''Kacey:''' Well you should probably look it up, it’s all in blood type. 
'''Chris:''' Yeah okay. Antigens. Is that like, I’m gonna spell it how it sounds, is that spelled A-N-T-O-G-E-N 
'''Kacey:''' What? It’s A-N-T-I-G-E-N 
'''Chris:''' Oh, A-N, oh Antigen, antigen, ok. So A is for Antigen, what’s B and O? 
'''Kacey:''' What? No everything has antigens except for type O 
'''Chris:''' Okay so type B has antigen in it as well 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah they have the B an- you just have to look it up 
'''Chris:''' Yeah okay, it’s very interesting 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah, blood is very interesting 
'''Chris:''' Let me ask you, why is it a bad idea to mix blood types, like if you put B or O in an A positive or A negative person. 
'''Kacey:''' Okay O is the universal donor, so they can give to anyone because they don’t have antigens. AB can receive anyone because they have both A and B antigens. If you take the wrong antigen and put it in someone’s blood stream, they will die because their body will attack itself. So if you put A antigens in a B bloodtype, they’re going to kill each other and then you die. 
'''Chris:''' Oh, okay so AB and O are neutral. 
'''Kacey:''' No, O is neutral it has no antigens, it is the universal donor so anyone can take O blood. AB is the universal receiver so they can take anyone’s blood because they have all the antigens 
'''Chris:''' OK so AB is the universal receiver, okay 
'''Kacey:''' Yes 
'''Chris:''' Wow, A and B it’s like those are opposite types, huh. 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah people with O, even though they can give to anyone they can only have O blood, but AB can take anyone’s blood. 
'''Chris:''' Which is more rare, AB or O 
'''Kacey:''' AB usually, because it’s got both the of them, but it’s by a small margin. 
'''Chris:''' Huh, I see. Is blood type- I’m sure blood types are genetic aren’t they? 
'''Kacey:''' Of course almost everything is genetic. Actually blood type is very important in cultures, not so much of ours, but in other cultures they use blood type to determine personalities and for match-making, it’s kind of outdated but they still do that. 
Chris: Yeah I think we talked about that in a previous conversation about personality traits in comparison to blood types, and then, yeah, I can Google that as well. 
'''Kacey:''' Right 
'''Chris:''' Yeah we talked about that before. 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah [laughs] 
'''Chris:''' Hmmm, well okay, let me ask you though, A positive and A negative would you say those are opposing, opposite of each other. If you put A negative in the A plus- A positive and they die? 
'''Kacey:''' What? 
'''Chris:''' If you put A negative blood in an A positive person will the A positive person- 
'''Kacey:''' Yeah you can’t mix that, you don’t want to. 
Chris: Oh, okay. I get it, cool. 
Kacey: Well, anything else on your mind? 
Chris: Let me think. Oh yeah, I asked my mom earlier today why she thinks that I often blank out or I’m often confused. 
Kacey: Uh huh 
Chris: She theorizes it’s because I’m a creative genius. You know, I’m a very creative guy, and I have so many creative thoughts coming in and out and they differ from what’s currently in my mind and- 
Kacey: Well I’m really creative and I don’t blank out. I’m serious when I say there’s a serious, serious thing that could be wrong with you. You blanking out like that, It could be you’re not getting adequate nutrition, it could mean you’re dehydrated. It could mean you could have something wrong seriously like a tumor or something. 
Chris: Mmm, I don’t know it’s a theory my mom had, but anyway point was, so many creative thoughts pretty much derails my train of thought and puts me in a blank state or confusion. That’s just from my mom’s point of view and how she understands it, something like that. 
Kacey: I don’t know. That just doesn’t make sense to me. 
Chris: Okay, say you want to remember something from like, yeah from like ten conversations ago, but then you try to remember, but it’s like it’s hard for you to remember because of all your incoming creative ideas at the time, or- 
Kacey: The brain doesn’t work that way. 
Chris: Come on, memory in the brain is like random access memory just like in any computer, it’s random. 
Kacey: No it’s not. No, no, no, no 
Chris: Did you voice just get deep there? 
Kacey: Sorry I covered my mouth with my hands 
Chris: Well it could be just- 
Kacey: It was just my voice echoing through my hands, that’s all it was. 
Chris: Okay 
Kacey: I mean yes, there have been comparisons to the brain being like a computer, but it’s not like that. It’s not like a switchboard where things can get plugged up or anything. There are so many places in your brain that have to do with memory, I just don’t even know how to explain this. 
Chris: Okay, well you’re probably right, it could be the nutrition thing, but I’m drinking water more, nowadays and I’m getting on track [inaudible] vegetation and having a more healthy lifestyle and my daily exercise regimen so I’ll probably get better on that. 
Kacey: You should actually talk to your doctor about it, because if you are suffering from poor nutrition they can give you tests. You really should look into that. 
Chris: Okay, well I’ll be sure to- 
Kacey: Maybe you have an iron deficiency, you should totally ask. 
Chris: Yeah well before my check-up I usually go in a little earlier and give a little blood for blood work so they would know at that point. SO they would know at that point. So I’ll be sure to talk to my doctor about that. 
Kacey: Okay that’s good. 
Chris: Alright 
Kacey: Okay, well anything else? 
Chris: Yeah, the current money I spent on so far this month I will definitely know about that, I promise, I’ll send you a message. 
Kacey: Okay cool, thanks 
Chris: I do want to tell you that, but I’m not [inaudible] bank account number or anything like that [laughs] 
Kacey: Okay [laughs] 
Chris: Yeah but anyway, Oh shoot I had another thought in my head… [mumbles] What I spent on so far this month, shoot I lost the other thought… hmmm, oh well. Hmm, what else is on your mind? 
Kacey: Just, you know, all my tests and all my projects and stuff. I really don’t have anything else. 
Chris: Learn anything new today? 
Kacey: We just went over some of the projects, we didn’t go over anything I didn’t already know, so I’m good. We’re still in review. 
Chris: Your project’s like, essays. 
Kacey: No I have a five page paper that’s for Anthropology, and I have to get people to take these surveys and then I have to cross reference everything by state, region, nationwide and worldwide. So it’s going to be a really easy paper, it’s just the research that’s going to get me. 
Chris: Hmmm, survey huh? You know, I can probably take that if you email me the questions on your survey. 
Kacey: Okay, I totally can. 
Chris: I’d be happy to help you with that. 
Kacey: Okay, I will totally do that. 
Chris: Just type in the email or type it in a Microsoft Word file and I will download it and open it up on my Microsoft Word. 
Kacey: Okay 
Chris: And then I’ll put the answers on the Word file and add my name to it, or I can put it in an email reply, the answers. 
Kacey: Okay, that’d be cool. 
Chris: Oh, I just remembered the other thought. I thought about more, about the five hundred word minimum essay I was gonna do for you about Autism, I thought about what I could do for that. 
Kacey: Mmhmm 
Chris: I thought about just refreshing myself on the characteristics of a person with Autism, you know like on Autism.org that’s a good place to go, or look it up on Wikipedia. And comparing it to my actual, real life experiences, you know, how I have exhibited some of those characteristics, and also, you know how I got better from that later on in life. 
Kacey: Okay 
Chris: Yeah, I’m just thinking, like you know, I’m thinking good for you there. Because I like to help out. 
Kacey: Aw, thank you. 
Chris: Okay 
Kacey: Well, I’ve got to go to bed, because I’ve got class in the morning, so let me go ahead and let you go and I will talk to you tomorrow. 
Chris: Alright sweet dreams 
Kacey: Okay, alright bye 
Chris: Alright, Bye-bye. 
[call ends]

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Kacey Call 4

2014-05-28T07:44:46Z

Cricket: [computer jobs (?)] changed to "computer-aided drafting and design

28 [[August 2009]]

=Highlights=
'''KACEY:''' "In other cultures, you would not survive."

*Chris begins the call by asking [[Kacey]] if she has an STD.
*Kacey received a lot of awards during her high school graduation. Chris is jealous.
*Chris suggests talking about political issues even though he has nothing to say about political issues.
*Kacey asks Chris about things she found on the [[ED]] page.
*Chris totally doesn't drink [[cum]] anymore, he definitely doesn't shit himself anymore, and he certainly isn't gullible anymore.
*Chris lies and says the last time he shat himself was THREE YEARS AGO.
*Chris tries to explain why he has so many fucking [[video game]] accounts.
*Chris whines that he only gets 200 out of his 800 a month, and spends 150 on video games.
*Chris was going to call someone about getting a job, "but then stress happened."
*Chris used credit cards to buy thousands of video games, parents are paying the bills.
*Chris doesn't know why he got a [[CADD]] degree, "I feel more comfortable with drawing da [[comics]] than with da buildings and da computers."
*Chris is sending printed-out [[Sonichu]] comics to Marvel, DC and Dark Horse; thinks they will hire him because he's "very popular."
*[[Mary Lee Walsh]] caused all of his problems.
*Chris is capable of surviving, cooking and doing laundry.
*Chris can't look for a job on the internet because he "doesn't know what to put into a search term."
*Kacey says Sonichu is fanfiction. Chris says it's parody.
*Chris lies that he'll look for a job where he works 10 hours a week, Kacey wants him to work 20, eventually he says okay to shut her up.
*Kacey tells him not to wear his [[medallion]] to the [[job]] interview and not to draw on the applications; Chris sadly agrees that he won't.
*Chris thanks Kacey for yelling at him.

==Video==

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{{Infobox/Audiofile
| name = Kacey Call 4
| audio = {{#ev:youtube|SFdPfDDk_3c}}
| Stardate = 28 August 2009
| Featuring = [[Chris]]; [[Kacey]]
| Saga = {{Liquid}} Liquid Saga
| previous = [[Kacey Call 3]]
| next = [[Kacey Call 5]]
}} </center>

==Transcript==

 '''Chris:''' Hello-o?
 '''Kacey:''' Hi! It's Kacey!
 '''Chris:''' Hey Kacey! How are you?
 '''Kacey:''' I'm good. Um, how are you? Um, are you doing better?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I'm feeling better, thank you. I was waiting for you to call me.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, you just said around 11 to 11:30, so I gave you a few extra, you know, minutes just in case.
 '''Chris:''' I see. Yeah, I know, that's cool. I appreciate that. But it's like, you know. Yeah, I mean- I mean no hurry, but I mean, like, you know. I was waiting for the pleasure of talking to you.
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, uh, thank you. [nervous laugh]
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, so uh, okay, let me go and get my main questions I had written down in my little notebook out of the way. Um...
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, you have questions? Yeah, go ahead and ask them.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah. Okay, this is an important one. You don't have any STDs, do you?
 '''Kacey:''' Chris, why would you ask me that?! Of course I don't!
 '''Chris:''' Okay, I'm sorry, I just-
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupts] I mean, you know I've only been with one person!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, well, I mean, I just felt like I just had to ask anyway.
 '''Kacey:''' O...okay, that's just... WOW!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't up... [unintelligible] that wasn't a very good opening topic, I know, I'm sorry. It's just the first one I had on my thing here.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well I hope the rest of the questions aren't that bad!
 '''Chris:''' Uh, no, yeah well here, here, we'll do a 180 right here, um, yeah, let's, I think we talked about your education background a little bit, you, uh, you said you had honor roll grades back in high school?
 '''Kacey:''' Yes, I was 4.0 all the way.
 '''Chris:''' Well that's good. Yeah, you got your diploma and all. Um, okay, did you, uh, ever get any, uh, awards? Um, like, you know right before graduation?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, yeah, like, um, I actually had a couple poems published, and um, I actually graduated with way more credits than I needed so I got a merit certificate.
 '''Chris:''' [enthralled] You got a merit certificate?
 '''Kacey:''' Yes.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm. Tell me about that, what does that do for you?
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, it just goes with your diploma, it just shows that you did way more than you needed to do- so, I got that, and you know, and I did like over 200 hours of community service, so, I got... It's just, it's just something that you... it doesn't really do anything, I mean, awards in high school are nothing, I mean, they don't really help you ever in your life.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm. Yeah, but it's like, you know the achievement, it just makes you feel better, you know, I wish I would've gotten an award for my creativity back in high school.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, I guess, but high school really doesn't do anything for you so it's not a big deal.
 '''Chris:''' Uh, it does a lot more than you, does a lot more than you think though, you know, I mean it, it's like, uh, it definitely readies you a little more for the adult life, that you're gonna be leaving high school FOR.
 '''Kacey:''' Yeah, but I mean nobody cares, they look at college all the time, college is way bigger of a deal.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, it is a big deal. I hear that.
 '''Kacey:''' Um, so, any other questions?
 '''Chris:''' Well, okay well yeah, we'll move onto the next one... hmm... yeah... Oh yeah, um, what's yo... uh, you drew, you drew your original Kacey in green ink, uh, it's that like, uh, gel ink?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, yeah, it is a gel pen actually, it's just one of the pens I use... for work.
 '''Chris:''' Oh, okay, you generally use a green ink pen, oh, that's... that's interesting.
 '''Kacey:''' Yeah, I like to use different colors.
 '''Chris:''' Hm. [pause] All colors of the rainbow, right?
 '''Kacey:''' [laughs] Yeah, definitely.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm, now there's my colorful gal.
 '''Kacey:''' [laughs] Well, Chris, remember, I'm just your friend.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I know, I'm just saying, you know, I'm just trying to be creati... be clever.
 '''Kacey:''' [laughs] Okay, well, um, keep going with questions.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, hmm, do you like Sudoku? Doin' those Sudoku puzzles in the paper?
 '''Kacey:''' No, I actually don't like Sudoku, I'm really big into logic puzzles but I've never gotten into Sudoku, I don't like it.
 '''Chris:''' Well that's too bad. It's more on logic though, I mean, you know, you basically just put one through nine in the one box, and then divide compared to the other boxes, the whole big nine box...
 '''Kacey:''' Right, I know what it is, I just don't like it.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm, yeah, okay, well generally...
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupts] I'm more of a science person than a math person.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm, 'kay well you know you don't need math. I mean, it's like, okay, similarly you could do like Sudoku with like, the letters A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I. You could do letters A through I.
 '''Kacey:''' I guess, but I mean, I just really don't like it, so if we could move on to the next question, that'd be awesome.
 '''Chris:''' Well, okay. What's your favorite board game?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, my favorite board game? Um, I haven't really played any in a long time, actually, so I mean...
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, out of all the board games you've played?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, well the last thing I played was Catan.
 '''Chris:''' Catan? [Kacey: "Yes."] I've never heard of that one.
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, you should look it up, you should Google it, it's a really awesome game.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, is that spelled with a K?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, no, it's C-A-T-A-N.
 '''Chris:''' Oh, KAY-tawn, okay.
 '''Kacey:''' Kuh-TAHN.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, alright... so my favorite board game yet... I got a little bit into Monopoly, but, I don't... yeah, I mean I can call it like my second favorite board game, um, [incoherent stammering] yeah, I guess, and plus, I mean, I have the original Sega Genesis cartridge, and you know, every once in a while I would play that, and I would beat the computer! [He seems proud of this.]
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, okay, cool... well, um, go ahead and keep going with the questions.
 '''Chris:''' Okay. Alright, well here's a fun one for you you might like. Did you have a favorite toy growing up?
 '''Kacey:''' A favorite toy? Um, yeah, my Easy-Bake Oven.
 '''Chris:''' Your Easy-Bake Oven?
 '''Kacey:''' Yeah, I loved that Easy-Bake Oven.
 '''Chris:''' Hah. Yeah, I can understand... I can understand that. Hah. Make the little small things with the little light bulb, it's fun. Uh, my favorite toy is this little uh Fisher Price Transformer, it was like, you know, my first Transformer, so it's like, uh it's a little red Indy racecar, that transforms into a robot, you actually gotta pop the guy's head in for the full transformation. [pause] So I was... yeah... yeah you'd have to see it to pretty much get it, but... I mean, if you look it up, look it up on the internet, I'm sure you can find pictures, yeah. It's a little- little red Indy racecar.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, Fisher Price... hmm... Oh and something else, I think, I feel like I can probably make you feel comfortable with, talkin' about, we can talk about some of your, uh, favorite pa- pa-litickal issues, or we can talk about your favorite episodes of House or The Office, and then uh, I'll just listen, and take it all in, and learn about you more as a friend, you know?
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well, um, let's do polla... politic issues, why don't you start?
 '''Chris:''' Alright... heh... why don't I start. I mean, you know more about politics than I do... uh... [pause, then frustrated sigh] I'm trying anyway, I'm trying to come up with a good political topic in my head right now.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, if you can't, I mean do you have any other questions?
 '''Chris:''' I mean, I just thought, you know... Okay, what's the most recent political thing that's, uh, you know, on your mind, now, at this point?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, probably health care, cause, you know, that's what I'm going to be doing.
 '''Chris:''' Oh, that's right, you're, uh, you're... [stammers] you're working towards getting your nurse degree. Out there.
 '''Kacey:''' Yup.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, um, we talked about that a little bit before... hmm... Yeah, let's see if I remember... yeah, I think you kind of agreed with me, with I said like, yeah... not everyone can afford healthcare, it's like you know... assist... and then yeah. Oh, yeah, you were... [Kacey starts talking over him]
 '''Kacey:''' Actually, Chris, I think you agreed with ME, because you didn't even know about reformed healthcare, you just knew about socialist healthcare.
 '''Chris:''' Hm. Yeah, that's true, I did, I did agree with you. And then you kind of agreed with you know, when I was talking about- about my father and me going down to Tom Perriello's office, and then he brought that up... but yeah, I was like agreeing with him at the time as well, but- Yeah and then you, then when you talked, you kind of agreed with him a little bit too.
 '''Kacey:''' Right... well do you have any other questions? Cause there's something on my mind that I really need to- talk to you about.
 '''Chris:''' Oh! We could talk about that. What's up?
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, um, so you know all these trolls have been bothering me, right?
 '''Chris:''' Oh, yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' So I was talking to my aunt about it, she's a nurse too, and...
 '''Kacey:''' ...you know she got really ''suspicious''. And, um, she Googled your name, and you know, some of the things that the trolls have been saying, I mean, I think they might be true, I mean what is, you know, it's disturbing, and it's making me really uneasy especially since, you know, you've said you- think about me to such a degree, and I mean, it's just like... I mean, I know you've talked about the ED site before, but I mean, is a lot of that true? Like, uh- why are you doing half those things in those videos? And, I thought you were anti-gay, and you're drinking your own cum?? It's gross! And it's just... it's bothering me!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, okay yeah, that is a whole bunch of skeletons... that is a whole bunch of skeletons in my closet.
 '''Kacey:''' But I mean, why would you do that?! Do they make you do that?
 '''Chris:''' Uh, no... As for the uh... yeah... I pretty much volunteered myself to be doing that, cause it was like, you know, I considered it like recycling, so it's like, you know, I didn't have to lose it... and plus you know I read on the internet there was like health benefits [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' Health benefits of what, of doing that?!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' There's- there's- no real health benefits, those are all myths, I mean it doesn't help your hair, it doesn't help your nails, there's not enough protein in it. I mean, is that the whole reason you did it?
 '''Chris:''' Anyway, anyway, I've stopped... anyway, I've stopped doing that months ago.
 '''Kacey:''' Well that's GOOD, but, I mean, there's no point in doing it. I mean... I... I... I mean especially not if you were so anti-gay. I mean, it's just, I mean most people would see that and go, "Wow, this guy must be at least bisexual!"
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Yeah, okay yeah, I can definitely see it from your point of view and I understand. [sigh] Yeah, but I take it like... you know... I learn from my mistakes, and... yeah... I've grown to the understanding and whatnot. Um, anyway, mostly other stuff like you know the posts... and the videos, and me drawing, you know, drawin' on my dick, and pictures of that, yeah...
 '''Kacey:''' Okay well, [Chris interjects: "I was talking!"] Hey, no, no, let me go! Okay, another thing that really disturbed me is, apparently, you told these trolls that you, uh... That you shit yourself? I mean, what the hell, Chris?
 '''Chris:''' [in an odd falsetto] Ehh, I prettty much... yeah... I mean, I'm more in control of my bowel movements nowadays, and yeah, I... I do that less.
 '''Kacey:''' Well I mean... you're just... you're 27, I mean... Do you just not make it to the bathroom? [amused] ...Or, or what?
 '''Chris:''' Uh... Yeah, I just, I just don't make it to the bathroom quickly enough.
 '''Kacey:''' [incredulous] Wh... h-how do you not know? Your body... gives you... you know... it lets you KNOW that... something... it's like, I mean... Like when was the last time it happened if you're so in control?
 '''Chris:''' Okay, the last time it happened... yeah it was like three years ago.
 '''Kacey:''' Three years ago?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' Well it said that it happened recently, so are these lies?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah they're, yeah they, yeah I would say they are exaggerating those. If it happened recently those are lies.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, okay but- [Chris repeats 'the last time I' over and over] you've got to see that all this stuff is disturbing to me.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm. Yeah I can, I can, I can relate to that. I can understand how you feel. Yeah. I- I would be uneasy too if I was, if I wasn't myself and I was reading that, you know, about myself or... Yeah. Hm- oh yeah, most of the information they got on that ED page... [pause] It's like conned out of me, they conned out of me from pretending to be the past women I've talked to like Blanca... Weiss or uh...
 '''Kacey:''' Okay but you can't blame other people. I mean, those people aren't near you; you can't say that they made you give them those videos. I mean what- [Chris tries to interrupt] -were you thinking? I mean, this is why your parents are mad at you right now!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah plus I was more gullible back then. And I'm, [sheepish] I've been less gullible for the past few months. And now. [long silence] I've learned from my mistakes. I'm working on these things and I'm moving on from- I'm moving on and trying to put all that behind me. And plus, I've, I've got a responsible detective, uh, up in the FBI to take, to help, to help to towards the down-taking of the website and the downfall of the trolls.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, but still, Chris, I mean, Chris you need to understand this stuff is kind of disturbing, and I mean like, okay look, like- I mean, like stuff you ''do'' in real life. Like, if most people touched me as much as you did, I would've gone off with them, but I mean, I'm trying to be polite because I know you have difficulties, and I mean that you, like you say "slow-in-the-mind", but I mean, you've gotta understand you can't keep doing this shit.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I understand that... [pause] I understand that.
 '''Kacey:''' And besides, you keep saying that the cops don't care about things. I mean, you've really gotta let some of this stuff ''go''! I mean, I mean don't be slow-in-the-mind with that! I mean, if they don't care they're not- they're never gonna help you, and even just one lone detective isn't gonna be able to do anything!
 '''Chris:''' [long silence] Yeah... Yeah also I did go to Tom Periello a little about that and talk to him about that.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, I mean, what exactly is he gonna ''do''? [Talking over Chris] And I mean, I mean like, what about all your counselors at church? I mean, do they know all this? Do they know this stuff?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, they know, yeah they, more or less, uh, know about what's been going on in the ED page, yeah. I mean ne- I mean, the people- I mean, between my pastor Elizabeth and… my pastoral counselor [[Rocky Shoemaker|Rocky]], uh yeah, they're ashamed with the, the church and all that being… on the internet and being put on the ED page and being slandered around in that sense. [pause] And I mean, yeah, I've been relating with that as well, and... It's just one of the things I try not to think- that's just one of the bad pieces, that like you know. I mean, I'm not ignorant, I know about it, I understand it, I just can't- [Kacey interrupts]
 '''Kacey:''' But Chris, okay, there was a ''video'' of you humping a [[PlayStation 3]]! [laughing] What the ''hell''?
 '''Chris:''' [stammering] I was- I was blackmailed into that. By, uh…
 '''Kacey:''' But the- how were they blackmailing you? These people are on the internet! How are they blackmailing you? [Chris tries to interrupt] You- they- they're not going to do anything ''to'' you!
 '''Chris:''' Okay- okay, Kacey, yeah, this happened like a month ago but like… two months ago. About one- about over a… Yeah I'd say, yeah, closer to two months now. Uh, anyway yeah, this person [[Jack Thaddeus]] got hold of the majority of my [[PlayStation Network]] accounts, including my main- my main American one, my secondary American one, and my, and my import accounts, including my Japan, Hong Kong and Spain-
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupts] Wait wait wait, you were doing this over a PlayStation account? ''That's'' what all this was about?
 '''Chris:''' Not just one but the whole- but the, but the majority, a whole bunch of my accounts- [Kacey cuts him off]
 '''Kacey:''' It's [[List of Chris's games|'''video games''']]! It's- oh my gosh, you could've easily called them and they would've understood, I mean… It's video games, [Chris tries to interrupt] you were letting them get to you that bad over a video game?!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, okay- [Kacey cuts him off again]
 '''Kacey:''' '''Chris'''! Think about what you're ''doing''!
 '''Chris:''': Yeah, okay, okay Kacey. Before that- before I made- before th- that video happened, let me give you the - let me start from the beginning here.
 '''Kacey:''' No, no! You're- you did this for a video game? It doesn't matter what they did. These are nameless people behind a computer screen. They're not gonna do anything ''to'' you! Uh-h You did this- you're giving them all this stuff over a video game! [pause] I mean, you need to grow up!
 '''Chris:''' [moaning] Kacey, I'm- I'm- I'm talking Kacey, please. Uh, let me start from the beginning- Okay, Jack Thaddeus got hold of my Playstation Network accounts, and uh, then I tried- then I called up- like, called the American Playstation company, and uh, got both of my American accounts back but I was put on a one-month ban because they considered it like, gamesharing, and that was my- my third strike against me on that. And they're like, you know, next time it might be permanent.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, then cut your losses. Is it really worth it? Is it worth having this on the internet for the rest of your life over an account on a ''PS3''?
 '''Chris:''' [moaning again] Yeah, there's a- [sighs] You know, your may contain[?] more about how the accounts are linked, like you know, the PlayStation titles and the titles that go to- that can be copied to the PSP-
 '''Kacey:''' It doesn't matter, it's a video game! You cut your losses and you tell them "Fine, take it!" Then, I mean, then- it's not worth it!
 '''Chris:''': I put better than two thousand dollars on my main American account-
 '''Kacey:''' Whoa, WHOA! You've spent two thousand dollars on video games!? Why would you EVER spend that much on video games? What did you get?!
 '''Chris:''' Plus, and plus this was over the course of like, two, three years.
 '''Kacey:''' [Talking over Chris] I haven't spent that much on video games in two to three years! [laughing]
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, ehh, I didn't have a girlfriend...
 '''Kacey:''' Even if it's two years, it's a thousand dollars a year! It doesn't matter if you have a girlfriend or not. That- that's insane! That's like those people who play Halo all the time. And they do nothing!
 '''Chris:''' [long pause before sigh] Anyway, getting back to- anyway, getting back to- getting back on track here. Yeah, I got my American accounts back. I had trouble tryin' to get back my Japan, and my Spain which those are important to me 'cause- [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' Why would you- why would you even have that many accounts? Isn't an American account just good enough? And, okay-
 '''Chris:''' [splutters incoherently as Kacey continues to talk] I like getting- I- you- Kacey, I like getting imports. [stress sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' How would they be able to get all of them? Okay, but why would they be able to get all of them at ONCE? I mean, did you make them all the same password? I mean, all those- okay, you can't have that many accounts, that's like fraud and stuff!
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Okay, well-
 '''Kacey:''' Just I mean- how did they- how did they get them?
 '''Chris:''' Okay, personally I had like, a multiple number of email addresses, and uh- multip- uh, different passwords for all of them. Uh, upon the reaching of that for Jack Thaddeus, I sh- I pretty much, uh- [[Kim]], a- Kim asked me to uh, share the- uh, for me to share the inf- share my Playstation information with her, 'cause she has a Playstation 3 and-
 '''Kacey:''' [Interrupts, furious] Are you blaming Kim?! [Chris tries to talk] Are you saying it's Kim's fault?
 '''Chris:''' No, no, I'm not- no, no, it's not Kim's fault, and she and I talked about this before. But anyway, she had to- I had told her the uh- the uh, information and the- the uh, the usernames and the passwords for the majority, and then she uh-
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, Chris, Chris? You know what, okay let's go back to something-
 '''Chris:''' Instead of my-
 '''Kacey:''' Hey, hey. Hey! HEY! CHRIS! [shouts over him to get his attention] Let's go back to something. You said you spent over $2000. Okay. You are on an income, which taxpayers like myself, pay. How much do you spend on video games a WEEK?
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] I'm not sure.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay. You can't even keep track of that. What gives you the right to take that money, and to spend $2000 of it on video games? Where- that- I mean, I can't even buy myself video games, so why should I pay for you to just spend your money on all this?
 '''Chris:''' Most of my income goes- goes towards my family. Uh, paying them a monthly rent of $250, they've gone twice [unintelligible] the bills...
 '''Kacey:''' [Talking over him] No, that doesn't matter! That doesn't matter! It doesn't matter what you pay like that.
 '''Chris:''' I pay- I, I only get like two- I only get like 200 out my 800 a MONTH.
 '''Kacey:''' Then WHY would you spend that much on games? That makes even LESS sense! I mean, okay, with these games that you spent so much money on, how much do you even PLAY them a week? How much do you even play them?
 '''Chris:''' [Long pause] On a near daily basis.
 '''Kacey:''' All of them? [Disbelieving] All 2000 dollars?
 '''Chris:''' [Pause] The majority of it, yes.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, I find that hard to believe. I mean, and even if you were, don't you think maybe, you should be- like, like you were talking about getting a job! Like, how are you gonna be able to do that, and playing all these games at once? You should be, uh, I mean, like have you even done anything MORE besides going to the Social Security office?
 '''Chris:''' [Pause, sigh] Yeah. I was gonna call Mr. Will yesterday and find out more about that working ticket, but unfortunately, uh, yeah- yeah, today is still Friday. I was gonna call him today, but then the [[stress]] happened yesterday, and I had to take the emotional day today. I just didn't feel up to making the call today, and-
 '''Kacey:''' Chris! Then how are you ever gonna work? How are you ever gonna work? You can't just have emotional days like that. I mean, you either work or you don't. I mean, you've gotta grow up a little!
 '''Chris:''' I n- I- I've been growing up! I've been growing up. It's just so mu- it's just a- a whole lot for me to think about.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, this is why your parents are mad at you! I can ''see'' why they're mad at you![Chris sighs deeply] I mean, do they even know you spent that much on video games? And that you just like- I- I- I'd- oh my gosh! [Chris sighs] I mean, I don't- I didn't want to go in to work today, and I went in! I didn't want to go to school today, and I went! And I mean, and I've been having problems with sinuses, and- I mean- come on!
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] I, I mean- I mean, if I did have a job, and all that, uh, so many complications. I, uh, when I got my Social Security at first- I was, at first I, you know, like, I think it was about-
 '''Kacey:''' [talks over him] Chris, Chris, if you-
 '''Chris:''' [keeps talking] Two thousand two or three-
 '''Kacey:''' -really only get 200 dollars a month, how did you GET all that money for those video games? Did you steal it?
 '''Chris:''' I get 800- for your information, no. For your information, I get 800 dollars a month.
 '''Kacey:''' No, but you said you only get- you just said you only get 200 out of it 'cause your parents TAKE the rest. I mean, so, how did you- I mean, that would have taken you a long time, and, and that's if you've never spent any other money on anything but video games. Where did you get that money?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, well, I-
 '''Kacey:''' Be honest.
 '''Chris:''' It, it, it did come out of the, uh, remaining 200. I spend like 100, 150 out of that per month.
 '''Kacey:''' There's no way you could have mathematically have done that and only spent your 200 on video games. Where did you get the rest of that money, and please be honest with me.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Uh, between credit car- between credit cards and- [Unintelligible, says something about his mother]
 '''Kacey:''' You have credit cards? Are they yours? [Gasps] You took your parents' credit cards for video games?
 '''Chris:''' No, no, not my parents', they were my own credit cards. I actually applied for those. They had my name on 'em.
 '''Kacey:''' Why would you ''do'' that? [Long pause] You- you don't have a-
 '''Chris:''' I'm a gamer!
 '''Kacey:''' No, that doesn't matter, but you need to be smart about it! You don't have a job! I mean, you've gotta be in so much debt!
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Yeah well, you know, but-
 '''Kacey:''' Chris, how are you gonna get this family you want if you have all this debt? I mean, and how do you pay off the credit cards?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, fortunately my- my father and my mother have decided to help me out there. They're paying my credit card bills and I'm paying them back.
 '''Kacey:''' And you think they're gonna be there forever? You think they're always going to clean up after your mistakes?
 '''Chris:''' No, no, I know they're not gonna clean up after my mistakes forever. And I- I'm not gonna make those mistakes again.
 '''Kacey:''' I don't know, Chris. This has given me a lot to think about.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Well, if you want to talk-
 '''Kacey:''' Maybe if you just would've not tried to be so serious, like I asked, I mean just, you know, ba- but, I, you know, I had to get- I- this whole thing is just so suspicious.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Eh- wait a minute, this whole thing?
 '''Kacey:''' Just everything! Everything that I- that I've been getting! In these emails! [Chris tries to talk] Everything my aunt found! [Chris sighs] Come on, don't act like you don't know what we're talking about. [Chris begins talking over her] You know that the trolls have been trolling me.
 '''Chris:''' I d- I do. I, I, I know, but- I know what we're talking about. I'm just processing it and remembering in my ''head''.
 '''Kacey:''' I know but I mean, you said you had a degree, right? So um, why aren't you doing anything with it? Like, when I get mine, I mean, I'm getting my PhD. I'm gonna be getting over $100,000 a year. What're YOU gonna be able to do? You've gotta THINK about that.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Look, my father tol- my father enc- encouraged me to get the- to go to a- computer drafting and design degree, he encouraged me to go to college in the first place!
 '''Kacey:''' Then why aren't you using it?
 '''Chris:''' I mean- because I don't know! I don't know how. I, I mean- I don't- I, I, I, I...
 '''Kacey:''' You apply for a job that says you need this degree!
 '''Chris:''' I know I have the compu- a drafting and design degree and certificate, I've been taught that- I'd have to build buildings and whatever on the computer, about that- that-
 '''Kacey:''' So why don't you do that instead of making a resume that has Sonichu and Rosechu on it? I know they're in a very important part of your life, but you could actually go do something.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Because, I just, uh- I just feel more comfortable with drawing the comics and the cartoons, than I do with the, uh- with just the, uh- with just the buildings and the computers and whatnot.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well you know what? Well I feel a lot better drawing and doing, you know, singing and stuff than I do waitressing, but you know what? I have to be a productive member of society, and I have to go out and do my job every freaking day whether I rather be home talking to my friends, or going shopping, or doing whatever.
 '''Chris:''' [After a long pause] I see.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, my aunt has done factual independent research, and found out a lot of these things are true that she found out. On her own. [Chris sighs] I mean, you can't-
 '''Chris:''' [Trying to interrupt] I keep feeling-
 '''Kacey:''' -always blame everything with the trolls and ED.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, yeah, I'll admit that, you know, some of the things in the ED are true, but you know, they just take it and they-
 '''Kacey:''' [Talking over Chris] Yes, I know that, I just told you they were!
 '''Chris:''' -but they warp it around! They sla- they make it worse. They're rewording it.
 '''Kacey:''' But Chris, she has been able to verify this information in other places. I just said that it wasn't all ED.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] I... [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' You need to start taking responsibility! I mean, I don't think anyone I know wants to stay in their job the whole time but I mean, I mean don't you wanna be a productive member of society? Don't you want- don't you want to go through your own potential? Maybe Sonichu and Rosechu isn't doing it right now, maybe you need to get your foot in the door first.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I'm working on getting my foot in the door. I'm gonna buy a new co- I'm gonna buy new a printer/scanner/copier next week, I'm gonna print out-
 '''Kacey:''' For what? How is that gonna help you with your- with your CADD degree? How is that gonna help you utilize something that you went to school for?
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to print out copies of my number zero book and then some, to send to Marvel, Dark Horse, and Archie comics with my resume, so then Sonichu and Rosechu books could be actually made to get me paper-published, and the merchandise to follow, the video games and all that, so that I could get a (good job) (?) - [Kacey interrupts]
 '''Kacey:''' What if that doesn't work? What's your safety net? What if that doesn't work? [Pause, Chris sighs] Chris, loo- look at Sonichu. It- it's not bad, but what if they don't like it? I mean, it's nothing like, you know, like any other comic books I've seen, and I mean, you- you hijack your own- your own comic and make it about ''you''.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, that's true. But still, I mean, at least I have a worldwide fanbase, I'm very popular! I mean, that's even more than enough for any comic book company to uh, want to- want to accept me, and uh, let me work for them.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, even if you have a fanbase, you know, they have- they, they don't go- they just aren't gonna-
 '''Kacey:''' ["hire you"] -off of your fanbase. I mean, especially if you don't have factual proof of how many there are. They're going to show it to, um, groups that they have that do this for a ''living'', and what happens if they don't like it? I mean, you need a backup plan. I can't believe you have a degree that's just sitting around gathering dust. You went to college! I mean, if I went to college, and just let my degree just sit there, and never got certified, or licensed... I mean what's the whole point? You- you've gotta do something with it.
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Yeah, maybe-
 '''Kacey:''' Don't you think that would make your parents proud?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, my- I would like to make my parents proud. There's so many things in my life I'd like to do. As a matter of fact, you know, during the whole time, even- even while earning my degree, I never actually ''had''- a job game plan- during that, during that time, and even after I got my degree, I just did not know where to go. Just like I, just like the uh- [Kacey interrupts]
 '''Kacey:''' They have career centers at every college for that! [Chris tries to talk, Kacey continues] But then, no, which- you can't even contact now, because you freaking, uh, you got yourself an order where you can't even go there! I mean, they have counselors to help, and you screwed that over, over- this stupid stuff! H- how- how- why?!
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] [[Mary Lee Walsh]] got me very mad. She interrupted my early days of my [[sweetheart search]].
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, and now it's back to Mary Lee Walsh, it's not you, right?
 '''Chris:''' Well, I- you mean- you know- but the yeah, you know, that was the- [stammers]
 '''Kacey:''' I thought you forgave her!
 '''Chris:''' I- I mean- I did forgive her, but still, that's what caused that portion of the thing. I'm just - going back to that for the one time just to reference. Just to reference.
 '''Kacey:''' Look, just because she didn't like how you were trying to get a girlfriend, does not equal you not being able to go on with your life.
 '''Chris:''' [long pause, sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' There are- there- I mean, okay, you, also, like let's - okay, you are on disability. The government has SO much for you. You could go to another college, and they would pay for most of it. They would - you know - they could help you so much, you just need to reach out! I mean, the only thing I'm looking at is that you're saying that- I mean, I just don't know. I mean, especially with you wanting to be a househusband, I mean is just- having sex and a girlfriend more important than having a job, than being a MAN? [Christian sighs] In other cultures, you would not survive.
 '''Chris:''' I- I have the capabilities to survive. I have the capabilities-
 '''Kacey:''' [interjects] Then do it!
 '''Chris:''' -of cooking, I- I'm capable of being able to uh, do laundry, and, uh, and [[chores|all of that]].
 '''Kacey:''' No! That's not what I'm talking about. You have a degree. You need to use it.
 '''Chris:''' [LONG pause] I don't even know of any places around ''Charlottesville'' that are hiring for that sort of thing!
 '''Kacey:''' Why don't you look on them? Go on the internet?
 '''Chris:''' Even if- even though- even though my- even though Susan Hannifan at Piedmont, ehh, says that there are jobs like that around-
 '''Kacey:''' CHRIS.
 '''Chris:''' -Charlottesville, possibly available-
 '''Kacey:''' Chris. You have a-
 '''Chris:''' -even if I graduate-
 '''Kacey:''' You have a CADD degree! You can do work from home! I mean, what happens if you found a great job and it wasn't in Charlottesville? Would it really be that bad if you had to move out of your parents' house?
 '''Chris:''' [pause, pitiful sigh] I grew up in this house! It's like, you know, it's-
 '''Kacey:''' You're 27, you have to leave sometime! Are you waiting for your parents to [[Death#Robert_Franklin_Chandler_Jr._.281927-2011.29|DIE]] or something?
 '''Chris:''' No.
 '''Kacey:''' Then what, you're just going to live there your whole life?
 '''Chris:''' [stammering] I- I just don't know - it's just for awhile, I mean, I have been feeling uncomfortable. And I just- have not found- I just don't- I- [voice climbs into a falsetto] so many things I need to GATHER in my head out of the whole lifetime, I just-
 '''Kacey:''' Okay- Chris. CHRIS.
 '''Chris:''' -and somebody needs to ''understand''.
 '''Kacey:''' Chris. Chris. You want me to be interested in you. But you're telling me right now that you want to live in your parents' house for the rest of your life? W- what?! And you think I'm gonna GO for that?
 '''Chris:''' No, I did not say that, I mean, I mean like, you know, if things got that, got that far, I mean, I would be happy to move in with YOU, if that was the case. But I- I'm just- [sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' But you can't do something for yourself?
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Yeah I just... Uh, so many things tied up with this one house, it- (?) [Kacey talks over him]
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, let's say that you did move in with me, what are you gonna do? Are you just gonna sit around and draw Sonichu and Rosechu, or are you gonna actually go out and do something?
 '''Chris:''' I would actually go out and do something.
 '''Kacey:''' W- why can't you do that first? Why can't you prove to me that first? [Chris sighs] I mean, what are you gonna do?
 '''Chris:''' [pause, sigh] Well... [sigh] I would go out, see if, see if I could find somebody who would hire me?
 '''Kacey:''' Well... I mean, I don't know why you don't just do that right now. I mean, we have the internet, that's so easy. What would- would- would you do?
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Well, even when it comes to the internet, I don't know what to put into the search term. That just- that- [trails off unintelligibly]
 '''Kacey:''' Put in CADD! Put in your degree! [laughs] It's not that hard! Any... simpleton can figure it out!
 '''Chris:''' ...and then there are more details to where I just, couldn't, I- I just don't comprehend yet. [sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' But Chris, seriously. Y- you need to take this seriously. This is ridiculous.
 '''Chris:''' Y- Yes, it is ridiculous.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, maybe- I... I don't know what to say. I really don't. You're just giving me excuses why you don't need to productive. I mean, are you just gonna... you're just gonna sit around? I mean, you don't even know what kind of job you can get with a CADD degree, do you.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, that is one- that is one problem, yes.
 '''Kacey:''' Well I mean, it's- it's simple, you even said something like, buildings and stuff... I mean, come on! Why don't- why don't you research this? You could go to Wikipedia, for God's sakes, and find out what you can do with a CADD degree. [short pause] You just want to sit around and collect your [[tugboat]] for the rest of your life, don't you.
 '''Chris:''' No, I don't want to just sit around, and collect my tugboat... [trails off]
 '''Kacey:''' Then why haven't you done anything? It's been years since you've been in school.
 '''Chris:''' ...I, I'm sorry, what was that?
 '''Kacey:''' It's been years since you've been in school.
 '''Chris:''' Oh yeah, I have been-
 '''Kacey:''' Why haven't- why haven't you done anything yet? I mean, most people take a gap year, but that's... a... YEAR. ONE YEAR. Not... forever!
 '''Chris:''' [long pause] Yeah, you're right. [another pause] I've just- I've been feeling ''wayward''.
 '''Kacey:''' [pause] ...Wayward?
 '''Chris:''' [mumbles] Yeah... lost. I didn't know what to DO.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, you're gonna stay lost until you actually DO something! Or, you know what, try to go to a school that you're NOT banned from, and get a degree in something you really WANT to do. Why aren't you going into art or something?
 '''Chris:''' [long sigh]I didn't think of that when I first applied for a degree- (?)
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupting] Why don't you do something now? I mean, I'm only one year younger than you, and I'm going to school now. I changed my major, it's not hard. And, you CAN get help. It's a lot harder for me.
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' Some people have multiple degrees. I mean, look at me. I'm double-majoring AND minoring.
 '''Chris:''' ...Huh. ...Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' But, you're not going to do anything. Just, something tells me you're just not.
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to do something! I just... I'm just... processing all this in my head, so then I can figure out, what to do. I mean, my current plan, is to, try to get myself published at Marvel, DC, or Dark Horse, or even-
 '''Kacey:''' You need to- just- Yeah, but you need a backup plan. Forget about that. Forget about that. You need to start by getting a job somewhere. I mean, okay. Okay, also, do you know why? Do it for Rosechu and Sonichu. 'Cause seriously- like, are they going to take you seriously when they see you've been out of work for a long time? Even starving artists do something. I mean, seriously, be a fry cook (??) do SOMETHING. Most people in comics have an art degree anyway. [pause, Christian sighs] And besides, I mean, how far are you really going to GO? When you- made a character out of two copyrighted characters. And, your comics are FULL of things that are copyrighted. I mean, I know they're like private jokes and everything-
 '''Chris:''' [interrupts huffily] It's called- it's called a [[parody]].
 '''Kacey:''' It doesn't ''seem'' like a parody. [Christian sighs again.] A parody generally makes fun of things. Are you making fun of Sonic?
 '''Chris:''' No. ...I just, I'm just... I'm, I'm just accentuating on some of the things that I like!
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, but then, that's- that's a ''fan'' comic! That's not a comic, that is fan FICTION. [Chris sighs again] That's like Mary Sue shit!
 '''Chris:''' [uncomprehending] ...What?
 '''Kacey:''' You can't sell it! It's just fan fiction!
 '''Chris:''' [long pause, sigh, pause] ...I don't know. But anyway, I'm gonna try, anyway, anyway, uh, Plan A, I'm gonna try for, to get myself paper-published and, uh, all that. But yeah, Plan B I'll- I'll definitely take everything that we talked about into consideration. I, I'll Google Computer Aided Drafting and Design and see what I can get with that degree. Or even, I- because, you know, my family could not, because you know, we can't- my family could not afford to, uh, at this time, to even get me classes, even at University of Virginia, which is more expensive than ''Piedmont''.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, but you need permission from the original copyright holders to sell this! Like, you try to sell Sonichu and Rosechu, and Nintendo, and Sega and Konami are gonna be on your ass!
 '''Chris:''' [pause, sigh] I tried to get Nintendo to...
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, didn't you think about that? You think they're not gonna see that?
 '''Chris:''' I thought- I thought about that, and I tried to- [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' [interjecting] Chris. CHRIS. These people have lawyers, and their job is to just go ''everything'' on the internet to find something they can sue over. I'm sur-
 '''Kacey:''' -prised that they didn't FIND it already. ...And if they didn't find it already, how famous can Sonichu really be? 'Cause this is their job. Their JOB is to cause lawsuits.
 '''Chris:''' [long pause] Well they- they- if that was their job, they would have sued me ''years'' ago.
 '''Kacey:''' Then I guess, maybe, Sonichu isn't as big as you thought. I'm not trying to be mean, here. This is [[White Knights|tough love]], Chris. I mean... you've gotta do something. It's reality.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah. [pause] I know, I have to do something. ...I want to do something.
 '''Kacey:''' So, okay, then what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do tomorrow? What are you gonna do tomorrow then.
 '''Chris:''' I'll Google computer-aided drafting and design (?) and- I'll Google CADD, and Charlottesville, and see what jobs are available around here. I- I- I'll leave a message for Mr. Will, and see if I can get a work ticket, on my, on my, degree. On my- [Kacey cuts him off]
 '''Kacey:''' Do you know what I want you to do tomorrow? Do you know what I want you to do? [Chris says something unintelligible] I want you to go out, and put out an application or two. Can you do that? Apply for Target, apply for McDonald's, do something. I want to know, and I want proof, that you are applying for something.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah... I'll, I'll go apply for- I'll go apply, I'll go, I'll go out and apply for, look for some jobs, yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' You'd better. I mean, even WalMart will hire anyone. Do WalMart.
 '''Chris:''' ...All right. I'll go for WalMart. [pause] But it- and also, you know, I still don't understand, how many, what my maximum hours a week are I can work for and keep my social security, because I know, that makes- I know I'm getting more a month than I could at any job like WalMart.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well... [pause] You better apply for something, or else I just don't know what I'm gonna do. I- I'm definitely gonna... think on this. I mean, and it doesn't matter- if you don't go over certain hours, they'll do you part-time, and then it won't hurt yer tugboat. And you know what, even if you made less- couldn't- couldn't just the pride of knowing you accomplished something be enough? That's the kind of guy that girls want. Not someone who goes, "Oh, I could get more just sitting around doing nothing." And you could get benefits. I mean, come on, isn't that- isn't that worth it?
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah. It is worth it. It, and it takes, it just took somebody- it took, it took somebody like you to, uh, make me realize, about the poten- about the, all that, and that's what- that's what I should be doing.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, there's tons of disabled people who work. I mean, you like Goodwill a lot, they help out people, and I'm sure they still get their quote-unquote "tugboats." And they're productive.
 '''Chris:''' [pause, sigh] Yeah. I'll go out- I'll go, I'll go, fill out some applications tomorrow, and, uh, like at WalMart and Target, and see if they'll, see if they'll hire me, you know. Even the, even the work, like, a maximum of like, ten hours a week. That's- I mean, I don't know if it's ten or fifteen hours maximum for, you know, not- yeh- I mean, I'll try for ten hours at first.
 '''Kacey:''' ...Okay.
 '''Chris:''' All right.
 '''Kacey:''' But I mean, if you can, if you can get up to twenty hours without hurting your tugboat, I want you to do the full twenty. I want you to really go gung-ho on this.
 '''Chris:''' If I can get- if I can get the full twenty I can go, I'll do that. But I'll, I'll start small with ten.
 '''Kacey:''' No. You need to ask for at least twenty. That's still part-time.
 '''Chris:''' Hmmm. ...Yeah. All right. Well I mean, you know, when I apply with other people, I'll ask, I'll try to go, try to shoot for, like, ten. Just as a- just as a- like-
 '''Kacey:''' No, you put- you put ten to twenty then. At least put ten to twenty. But I want you to do twenty. You can't even just do that for me. That's like, nothing. That's like- even if you work four days a week, that's five hours.
 '''Chris:''' I- I- I'll- I'll do it. I'll- I'll put in ten to twenty hours. And I'll still have, still have to talk to my social security people about uh, this as well.
 '''Kacey:''' I'm pretty sure you can get anywhere, you know, up to twenty hours. You can probably get that online.
 '''Chris:''' All right, I'll- I'll look into it online, and I'll, uh, on the application I'll put ten to twenty hours. On the application.
 '''Kacey:''' You'd better dress nice too, are you gonna dress nice for this? I mean, just in case?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I- I- I'll dress nice. I'll dress nice for the interview, yes. I can do that.
 '''Kacey:''' Don't- don't wear your [[Medallion of Fail|medallion]].
 '''Chris:''' [softly, defeated] Okay, I'm not gonna wear my medallion.
 '''Kacey:''' I know that's a part of you, but that, that's not gonna be allowed. Like, I can't even wear necklaces, and I'm a girl.
 '''Chris:''' ...Hm.
 '''Kacey:''' That's like- that's like having piercings going to an interview, it's stupid.
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' And don't- don't draw on the applications!
 '''Chris:''' I will not draw on the applications.
 [long pause]
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, I- I just hope this is really sinking in. Because, I- I have a feeling you're not into this.
 '''Chris:''' It is- it is sinking in. I'm really going to do it.
 '''Kacey:''' Besides, you should put twenty hours a week, because that's just the maximum. They're probably not going to give you that anyway, you'll probably end up with ten, but put twenty.
 '''Chris:''' I will put twenty. On the application.
 '''Kacey:''' Good, because it's gonna make you look a lot more serious, too.
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah, I do need to be more serious. On that.
[pause] I'm going to do it.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay.
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to- I want to-
 '''Kacey:''' I hope so.
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to look for a job at uh, WalMart, and Target, and fill out applications... and I'm gonna work a maximum of twenty hours. I'm going to do this.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, good. That's good.
 '''Chris:''' ...Kacey?
 '''Kacey:''' Yes?
 '''Chris:''' Thank you.
 '''Kacey:''' You're welcome.
 '''Chris:''' I want you to know that- if you, you know, even though it's tough love, it's all sinking in. It really is. I'm gonna- I'm gonna do it.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay. I hope you do.
 '''Chris:''' And I hope you know, I appreciate you giving me- I appreciate you giving me the... tough love that I needed.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay. ...Well, um, I've gotta go now, so. I hope this all sinks in, but I've really gotta go.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, I'll talk to you later.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, all right. [hangs up]

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Kacey Call 4

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Cricket: 'Fraggle' changed to 'fry cook' given that 'fry cook' is more likely

28 [[August 2009]]

=Highlights=
'''KACEY:''' "In other cultures, you would not survive."

*Chris begins the call by asking [[Kacey]] if she has an STD.
*Kacey received a lot of awards during her high school graduation. Chris is jealous.
*Chris suggests talking about political issues even though he has nothing to say about political issues.
*Kacey asks Chris about things she found on the [[ED]] page.
*Chris totally doesn't drink [[cum]] anymore, he definitely doesn't shit himself anymore, and he certainly isn't gullible anymore.
*Chris lies and says the last time he shat himself was THREE YEARS AGO.
*Chris tries to explain why he has so many fucking [[video game]] accounts.
*Chris whines that he only gets 200 out of his 800 a month, and spends 150 on video games.
*Chris was going to call someone about getting a job, "but then stress happened."
*Chris used credit cards to buy thousands of video games, parents are paying the bills.
*Chris doesn't know why he got a [[CADD]] degree, "I feel more comfortable with drawing da [[comics]] than with da buildings and da computers."
*Chris is sending printed-out [[Sonichu]] comics to Marvel, DC and Dark Horse; thinks they will hire him because he's "very popular."
*[[Mary Lee Walsh]] caused all of his problems.
*Chris is capable of surviving, cooking and doing laundry.
*Chris can't look for a job on the internet because he "doesn't know what to put into a search term."
*Kacey says Sonichu is fanfiction. Chris says it's parody.
*Chris lies that he'll look for a job where he works 10 hours a week, Kacey wants him to work 20, eventually he says okay to shut her up.
*Kacey tells him not to wear his [[medallion]] to the [[job]] interview and not to draw on the applications; Chris sadly agrees that he won't.
*Chris thanks Kacey for yelling at him.

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| previous = [[Kacey Call 3]]
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==Transcript==

 '''Chris:''' Hello-o?
 '''Kacey:''' Hi! It's Kacey!
 '''Chris:''' Hey Kacey! How are you?
 '''Kacey:''' I'm good. Um, how are you? Um, are you doing better?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I'm feeling better, thank you. I was waiting for you to call me.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, you just said around 11 to 11:30, so I gave you a few extra, you know, minutes just in case.
 '''Chris:''' I see. Yeah, I know, that's cool. I appreciate that. But it's like, you know. Yeah, I mean- I mean no hurry, but I mean, like, you know. I was waiting for the pleasure of talking to you.
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, uh, thank you. [nervous laugh]
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, so uh, okay, let me go and get my main questions I had written down in my little notebook out of the way. Um...
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, you have questions? Yeah, go ahead and ask them.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah. Okay, this is an important one. You don't have any STDs, do you?
 '''Kacey:''' Chris, why would you ask me that?! Of course I don't!
 '''Chris:''' Okay, I'm sorry, I just-
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupts] I mean, you know I've only been with one person!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, well, I mean, I just felt like I just had to ask anyway.
 '''Kacey:''' O...okay, that's just... WOW!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't up... [unintelligible] that wasn't a very good opening topic, I know, I'm sorry. It's just the first one I had on my thing here.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well I hope the rest of the questions aren't that bad!
 '''Chris:''' Uh, no, yeah well here, here, we'll do a 180 right here, um, yeah, let's, I think we talked about your education background a little bit, you, uh, you said you had honor roll grades back in high school?
 '''Kacey:''' Yes, I was 4.0 all the way.
 '''Chris:''' Well that's good. Yeah, you got your diploma and all. Um, okay, did you, uh, ever get any, uh, awards? Um, like, you know right before graduation?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, yeah, like, um, I actually had a couple poems published, and um, I actually graduated with way more credits than I needed so I got a merit certificate.
 '''Chris:''' [enthralled] You got a merit certificate?
 '''Kacey:''' Yes.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm. Tell me about that, what does that do for you?
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, it just goes with your diploma, it just shows that you did way more than you needed to do- so, I got that, and you know, and I did like over 200 hours of community service, so, I got... It's just, it's just something that you... it doesn't really do anything, I mean, awards in high school are nothing, I mean, they don't really help you ever in your life.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm. Yeah, but it's like, you know the achievement, it just makes you feel better, you know, I wish I would've gotten an award for my creativity back in high school.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, I guess, but high school really doesn't do anything for you so it's not a big deal.
 '''Chris:''' Uh, it does a lot more than you, does a lot more than you think though, you know, I mean it, it's like, uh, it definitely readies you a little more for the adult life, that you're gonna be leaving high school FOR.
 '''Kacey:''' Yeah, but I mean nobody cares, they look at college all the time, college is way bigger of a deal.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, it is a big deal. I hear that.
 '''Kacey:''' Um, so, any other questions?
 '''Chris:''' Well, okay well yeah, we'll move onto the next one... hmm... yeah... Oh yeah, um, what's yo... uh, you drew, you drew your original Kacey in green ink, uh, it's that like, uh, gel ink?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, yeah, it is a gel pen actually, it's just one of the pens I use... for work.
 '''Chris:''' Oh, okay, you generally use a green ink pen, oh, that's... that's interesting.
 '''Kacey:''' Yeah, I like to use different colors.
 '''Chris:''' Hm. [pause] All colors of the rainbow, right?
 '''Kacey:''' [laughs] Yeah, definitely.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm, now there's my colorful gal.
 '''Kacey:''' [laughs] Well, Chris, remember, I'm just your friend.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I know, I'm just saying, you know, I'm just trying to be creati... be clever.
 '''Kacey:''' [laughs] Okay, well, um, keep going with questions.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, hmm, do you like Sudoku? Doin' those Sudoku puzzles in the paper?
 '''Kacey:''' No, I actually don't like Sudoku, I'm really big into logic puzzles but I've never gotten into Sudoku, I don't like it.
 '''Chris:''' Well that's too bad. It's more on logic though, I mean, you know, you basically just put one through nine in the one box, and then divide compared to the other boxes, the whole big nine box...
 '''Kacey:''' Right, I know what it is, I just don't like it.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm, yeah, okay, well generally...
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupts] I'm more of a science person than a math person.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm, 'kay well you know you don't need math. I mean, it's like, okay, similarly you could do like Sudoku with like, the letters A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I. You could do letters A through I.
 '''Kacey:''' I guess, but I mean, I just really don't like it, so if we could move on to the next question, that'd be awesome.
 '''Chris:''' Well, okay. What's your favorite board game?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, my favorite board game? Um, I haven't really played any in a long time, actually, so I mean...
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, out of all the board games you've played?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, well the last thing I played was Catan.
 '''Chris:''' Catan? [Kacey: "Yes."] I've never heard of that one.
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, you should look it up, you should Google it, it's a really awesome game.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, is that spelled with a K?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, no, it's C-A-T-A-N.
 '''Chris:''' Oh, KAY-tawn, okay.
 '''Kacey:''' Kuh-TAHN.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, alright... so my favorite board game yet... I got a little bit into Monopoly, but, I don't... yeah, I mean I can call it like my second favorite board game, um, [incoherent stammering] yeah, I guess, and plus, I mean, I have the original Sega Genesis cartridge, and you know, every once in a while I would play that, and I would beat the computer! [He seems proud of this.]
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, okay, cool... well, um, go ahead and keep going with the questions.
 '''Chris:''' Okay. Alright, well here's a fun one for you you might like. Did you have a favorite toy growing up?
 '''Kacey:''' A favorite toy? Um, yeah, my Easy-Bake Oven.
 '''Chris:''' Your Easy-Bake Oven?
 '''Kacey:''' Yeah, I loved that Easy-Bake Oven.
 '''Chris:''' Hah. Yeah, I can understand... I can understand that. Hah. Make the little small things with the little light bulb, it's fun. Uh, my favorite toy is this little uh Fisher Price Transformer, it was like, you know, my first Transformer, so it's like, uh it's a little red Indy racecar, that transforms into a robot, you actually gotta pop the guy's head in for the full transformation. [pause] So I was... yeah... yeah you'd have to see it to pretty much get it, but... I mean, if you look it up, look it up on the internet, I'm sure you can find pictures, yeah. It's a little- little red Indy racecar.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, Fisher Price... hmm... Oh and something else, I think, I feel like I can probably make you feel comfortable with, talkin' about, we can talk about some of your, uh, favorite pa- pa-litickal issues, or we can talk about your favorite episodes of House or The Office, and then uh, I'll just listen, and take it all in, and learn about you more as a friend, you know?
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well, um, let's do polla... politic issues, why don't you start?
 '''Chris:''' Alright... heh... why don't I start. I mean, you know more about politics than I do... uh... [pause, then frustrated sigh] I'm trying anyway, I'm trying to come up with a good political topic in my head right now.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, if you can't, I mean do you have any other questions?
 '''Chris:''' I mean, I just thought, you know... Okay, what's the most recent political thing that's, uh, you know, on your mind, now, at this point?
 '''Kacey:''' Um, probably health care, cause, you know, that's what I'm going to be doing.
 '''Chris:''' Oh, that's right, you're, uh, you're... [stammers] you're working towards getting your nurse degree. Out there.
 '''Kacey:''' Yup.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, um, we talked about that a little bit before... hmm... Yeah, let's see if I remember... yeah, I think you kind of agreed with me, with I said like, yeah... not everyone can afford healthcare, it's like you know... assist... and then yeah. Oh, yeah, you were... [Kacey starts talking over him]
 '''Kacey:''' Actually, Chris, I think you agreed with ME, because you didn't even know about reformed healthcare, you just knew about socialist healthcare.
 '''Chris:''' Hm. Yeah, that's true, I did, I did agree with you. And then you kind of agreed with you know, when I was talking about- about my father and me going down to Tom Perriello's office, and then he brought that up... but yeah, I was like agreeing with him at the time as well, but- Yeah and then you, then when you talked, you kind of agreed with him a little bit too.
 '''Kacey:''' Right... well do you have any other questions? Cause there's something on my mind that I really need to- talk to you about.
 '''Chris:''' Oh! We could talk about that. What's up?
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, um, so you know all these trolls have been bothering me, right?
 '''Chris:''' Oh, yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' So I was talking to my aunt about it, she's a nurse too, and...
 '''Kacey:''' ...you know she got really ''suspicious''. And, um, she Googled your name, and you know, some of the things that the trolls have been saying, I mean, I think they might be true, I mean what is, you know, it's disturbing, and it's making me really uneasy especially since, you know, you've said you- think about me to such a degree, and I mean, it's just like... I mean, I know you've talked about the ED site before, but I mean, is a lot of that true? Like, uh- why are you doing half those things in those videos? And, I thought you were anti-gay, and you're drinking your own cum?? It's gross! And it's just... it's bothering me!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, okay yeah, that is a whole bunch of skeletons... that is a whole bunch of skeletons in my closet.
 '''Kacey:''' But I mean, why would you do that?! Do they make you do that?
 '''Chris:''' Uh, no... As for the uh... yeah... I pretty much volunteered myself to be doing that, cause it was like, you know, I considered it like recycling, so it's like, you know, I didn't have to lose it... and plus you know I read on the internet there was like health benefits [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' Health benefits of what, of doing that?!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' There's- there's- no real health benefits, those are all myths, I mean it doesn't help your hair, it doesn't help your nails, there's not enough protein in it. I mean, is that the whole reason you did it?
 '''Chris:''' Anyway, anyway, I've stopped... anyway, I've stopped doing that months ago.
 '''Kacey:''' Well that's GOOD, but, I mean, there's no point in doing it. I mean... I... I... I mean especially not if you were so anti-gay. I mean, it's just, I mean most people would see that and go, "Wow, this guy must be at least bisexual!"
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Yeah, okay yeah, I can definitely see it from your point of view and I understand. [sigh] Yeah, but I take it like... you know... I learn from my mistakes, and... yeah... I've grown to the understanding and whatnot. Um, anyway, mostly other stuff like you know the posts... and the videos, and me drawing, you know, drawin' on my dick, and pictures of that, yeah...
 '''Kacey:''' Okay well, [Chris interjects: "I was talking!"] Hey, no, no, let me go! Okay, another thing that really disturbed me is, apparently, you told these trolls that you, uh... That you shit yourself? I mean, what the hell, Chris?
 '''Chris:''' [in an odd falsetto] Ehh, I prettty much... yeah... I mean, I'm more in control of my bowel movements nowadays, and yeah, I... I do that less.
 '''Kacey:''' Well I mean... you're just... you're 27, I mean... Do you just not make it to the bathroom? [amused] ...Or, or what?
 '''Chris:''' Uh... Yeah, I just, I just don't make it to the bathroom quickly enough.
 '''Kacey:''' [incredulous] Wh... h-how do you not know? Your body... gives you... you know... it lets you KNOW that... something... it's like, I mean... Like when was the last time it happened if you're so in control?
 '''Chris:''' Okay, the last time it happened... yeah it was like three years ago.
 '''Kacey:''' Three years ago?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' Well it said that it happened recently, so are these lies?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah they're, yeah they, yeah I would say they are exaggerating those. If it happened recently those are lies.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, okay but- [Chris repeats 'the last time I' over and over] you've got to see that all this stuff is disturbing to me.
 '''Chris:''' Hmm. Yeah I can, I can, I can relate to that. I can understand how you feel. Yeah. I- I would be uneasy too if I was, if I wasn't myself and I was reading that, you know, about myself or... Yeah. Hm- oh yeah, most of the information they got on that ED page... [pause] It's like conned out of me, they conned out of me from pretending to be the past women I've talked to like Blanca... Weiss or uh...
 '''Kacey:''' Okay but you can't blame other people. I mean, those people aren't near you; you can't say that they made you give them those videos. I mean what- [Chris tries to interrupt] -were you thinking? I mean, this is why your parents are mad at you right now!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah plus I was more gullible back then. And I'm, [sheepish] I've been less gullible for the past few months. And now. [long silence] I've learned from my mistakes. I'm working on these things and I'm moving on from- I'm moving on and trying to put all that behind me. And plus, I've, I've got a responsible detective, uh, up in the FBI to take, to help, to help to towards the down-taking of the website and the downfall of the trolls.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, but still, Chris, I mean, Chris you need to understand this stuff is kind of disturbing, and I mean like, okay look, like- I mean, like stuff you ''do'' in real life. Like, if most people touched me as much as you did, I would've gone off with them, but I mean, I'm trying to be polite because I know you have difficulties, and I mean that you, like you say "slow-in-the-mind", but I mean, you've gotta understand you can't keep doing this shit.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I understand that... [pause] I understand that.
 '''Kacey:''' And besides, you keep saying that the cops don't care about things. I mean, you've really gotta let some of this stuff ''go''! I mean, I mean don't be slow-in-the-mind with that! I mean, if they don't care they're not- they're never gonna help you, and even just one lone detective isn't gonna be able to do anything!
 '''Chris:''' [long silence] Yeah... Yeah also I did go to Tom Periello a little about that and talk to him about that.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, I mean, what exactly is he gonna ''do''? [Talking over Chris] And I mean, I mean like, what about all your counselors at church? I mean, do they know all this? Do they know this stuff?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, they know, yeah they, more or less, uh, know about what's been going on in the ED page, yeah. I mean ne- I mean, the people- I mean, between my pastor Elizabeth and… my pastoral counselor [[Rocky Shoemaker|Rocky]], uh yeah, they're ashamed with the, the church and all that being… on the internet and being put on the ED page and being slandered around in that sense. [pause] And I mean, yeah, I've been relating with that as well, and... It's just one of the things I try not to think- that's just one of the bad pieces, that like you know. I mean, I'm not ignorant, I know about it, I understand it, I just can't- [Kacey interrupts]
 '''Kacey:''' But Chris, okay, there was a ''video'' of you humping a [[PlayStation 3]]! [laughing] What the ''hell''?
 '''Chris:''' [stammering] I was- I was blackmailed into that. By, uh…
 '''Kacey:''' But the- how were they blackmailing you? These people are on the internet! How are they blackmailing you? [Chris tries to interrupt] You- they- they're not going to do anything ''to'' you!
 '''Chris:''' Okay- okay, Kacey, yeah, this happened like a month ago but like… two months ago. About one- about over a… Yeah I'd say, yeah, closer to two months now. Uh, anyway yeah, this person [[Jack Thaddeus]] got hold of the majority of my [[PlayStation Network]] accounts, including my main- my main American one, my secondary American one, and my, and my import accounts, including my Japan, Hong Kong and Spain-
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupts] Wait wait wait, you were doing this over a PlayStation account? ''That's'' what all this was about?
 '''Chris:''' Not just one but the whole- but the, but the majority, a whole bunch of my accounts- [Kacey cuts him off]
 '''Kacey:''' It's [[List of Chris's games|'''video games''']]! It's- oh my gosh, you could've easily called them and they would've understood, I mean… It's video games, [Chris tries to interrupt] you were letting them get to you that bad over a video game?!
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, okay- [Kacey cuts him off again]
 '''Kacey:''' '''Chris'''! Think about what you're ''doing''!
 '''Chris:''': Yeah, okay, okay Kacey. Before that- before I made- before th- that video happened, let me give you the - let me start from the beginning here.
 '''Kacey:''' No, no! You're- you did this for a video game? It doesn't matter what they did. These are nameless people behind a computer screen. They're not gonna do anything ''to'' you! Uh-h You did this- you're giving them all this stuff over a video game! [pause] I mean, you need to grow up!
 '''Chris:''' [moaning] Kacey, I'm- I'm- I'm talking Kacey, please. Uh, let me start from the beginning- Okay, Jack Thaddeus got hold of my Playstation Network accounts, and uh, then I tried- then I called up- like, called the American Playstation company, and uh, got both of my American accounts back but I was put on a one-month ban because they considered it like, gamesharing, and that was my- my third strike against me on that. And they're like, you know, next time it might be permanent.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, then cut your losses. Is it really worth it? Is it worth having this on the internet for the rest of your life over an account on a ''PS3''?
 '''Chris:''' [moaning again] Yeah, there's a- [sighs] You know, your may contain[?] more about how the accounts are linked, like you know, the PlayStation titles and the titles that go to- that can be copied to the PSP-
 '''Kacey:''' It doesn't matter, it's a video game! You cut your losses and you tell them "Fine, take it!" Then, I mean, then- it's not worth it!
 '''Chris:''': I put better than two thousand dollars on my main American account-
 '''Kacey:''' Whoa, WHOA! You've spent two thousand dollars on video games!? Why would you EVER spend that much on video games? What did you get?!
 '''Chris:''' Plus, and plus this was over the course of like, two, three years.
 '''Kacey:''' [Talking over Chris] I haven't spent that much on video games in two to three years! [laughing]
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, ehh, I didn't have a girlfriend...
 '''Kacey:''' Even if it's two years, it's a thousand dollars a year! It doesn't matter if you have a girlfriend or not. That- that's insane! That's like those people who play Halo all the time. And they do nothing!
 '''Chris:''' [long pause before sigh] Anyway, getting back to- anyway, getting back to- getting back on track here. Yeah, I got my American accounts back. I had trouble tryin' to get back my Japan, and my Spain which those are important to me 'cause- [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' Why would you- why would you even have that many accounts? Isn't an American account just good enough? And, okay-
 '''Chris:''' [splutters incoherently as Kacey continues to talk] I like getting- I- you- Kacey, I like getting imports. [stress sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' How would they be able to get all of them? Okay, but why would they be able to get all of them at ONCE? I mean, did you make them all the same password? I mean, all those- okay, you can't have that many accounts, that's like fraud and stuff!
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Okay, well-
 '''Kacey:''' Just I mean- how did they- how did they get them?
 '''Chris:''' Okay, personally I had like, a multiple number of email addresses, and uh- multip- uh, different passwords for all of them. Uh, upon the reaching of that for Jack Thaddeus, I sh- I pretty much, uh- [[Kim]], a- Kim asked me to uh, share the- uh, for me to share the inf- share my Playstation information with her, 'cause she has a Playstation 3 and-
 '''Kacey:''' [Interrupts, furious] Are you blaming Kim?! [Chris tries to talk] Are you saying it's Kim's fault?
 '''Chris:''' No, no, I'm not- no, no, it's not Kim's fault, and she and I talked about this before. But anyway, she had to- I had told her the uh- the uh, information and the- the uh, the usernames and the passwords for the majority, and then she uh-
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, Chris, Chris? You know what, okay let's go back to something-
 '''Chris:''' Instead of my-
 '''Kacey:''' Hey, hey. Hey! HEY! CHRIS! [shouts over him to get his attention] Let's go back to something. You said you spent over $2000. Okay. You are on an income, which taxpayers like myself, pay. How much do you spend on video games a WEEK?
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] I'm not sure.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay. You can't even keep track of that. What gives you the right to take that money, and to spend $2000 of it on video games? Where- that- I mean, I can't even buy myself video games, so why should I pay for you to just spend your money on all this?
 '''Chris:''' Most of my income goes- goes towards my family. Uh, paying them a monthly rent of $250, they've gone twice [unintelligible] the bills...
 '''Kacey:''' [Talking over him] No, that doesn't matter! That doesn't matter! It doesn't matter what you pay like that.
 '''Chris:''' I pay- I, I only get like two- I only get like 200 out my 800 a MONTH.
 '''Kacey:''' Then WHY would you spend that much on games? That makes even LESS sense! I mean, okay, with these games that you spent so much money on, how much do you even PLAY them a week? How much do you even play them?
 '''Chris:''' [Long pause] On a near daily basis.
 '''Kacey:''' All of them? [Disbelieving] All 2000 dollars?
 '''Chris:''' [Pause] The majority of it, yes.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, I find that hard to believe. I mean, and even if you were, don't you think maybe, you should be- like, like you were talking about getting a job! Like, how are you gonna be able to do that, and playing all these games at once? You should be, uh, I mean, like have you even done anything MORE besides going to the Social Security office?
 '''Chris:''' [Pause, sigh] Yeah. I was gonna call Mr. Will yesterday and find out more about that working ticket, but unfortunately, uh, yeah- yeah, today is still Friday. I was gonna call him today, but then the [[stress]] happened yesterday, and I had to take the emotional day today. I just didn't feel up to making the call today, and-
 '''Kacey:''' Chris! Then how are you ever gonna work? How are you ever gonna work? You can't just have emotional days like that. I mean, you either work or you don't. I mean, you've gotta grow up a little!
 '''Chris:''' I n- I- I've been growing up! I've been growing up. It's just so mu- it's just a- a whole lot for me to think about.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, this is why your parents are mad at you! I can ''see'' why they're mad at you![Chris sighs deeply] I mean, do they even know you spent that much on video games? And that you just like- I- I- I'd- oh my gosh! [Chris sighs] I mean, I don't- I didn't want to go in to work today, and I went in! I didn't want to go to school today, and I went! And I mean, and I've been having problems with sinuses, and- I mean- come on!
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] I, I mean- I mean, if I did have a job, and all that, uh, so many complications. I, uh, when I got my Social Security at first- I was, at first I, you know, like, I think it was about-
 '''Kacey:''' [talks over him] Chris, Chris, if you-
 '''Chris:''' [keeps talking] Two thousand two or three-
 '''Kacey:''' -really only get 200 dollars a month, how did you GET all that money for those video games? Did you steal it?
 '''Chris:''' I get 800- for your information, no. For your information, I get 800 dollars a month.
 '''Kacey:''' No, but you said you only get- you just said you only get 200 out of it 'cause your parents TAKE the rest. I mean, so, how did you- I mean, that would have taken you a long time, and, and that's if you've never spent any other money on anything but video games. Where did you get that money?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, well, I-
 '''Kacey:''' Be honest.
 '''Chris:''' It, it, it did come out of the, uh, remaining 200. I spend like 100, 150 out of that per month.
 '''Kacey:''' There's no way you could have mathematically have done that and only spent your 200 on video games. Where did you get the rest of that money, and please be honest with me.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Uh, between credit car- between credit cards and- [Unintelligible, says something about his mother]
 '''Kacey:''' You have credit cards? Are they yours? [Gasps] You took your parents' credit cards for video games?
 '''Chris:''' No, no, not my parents', they were my own credit cards. I actually applied for those. They had my name on 'em.
 '''Kacey:''' Why would you ''do'' that? [Long pause] You- you don't have a-
 '''Chris:''' I'm a gamer!
 '''Kacey:''' No, that doesn't matter, but you need to be smart about it! You don't have a job! I mean, you've gotta be in so much debt!
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Yeah well, you know, but-
 '''Kacey:''' Chris, how are you gonna get this family you want if you have all this debt? I mean, and how do you pay off the credit cards?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, fortunately my- my father and my mother have decided to help me out there. They're paying my credit card bills and I'm paying them back.
 '''Kacey:''' And you think they're gonna be there forever? You think they're always going to clean up after your mistakes?
 '''Chris:''' No, no, I know they're not gonna clean up after my mistakes forever. And I- I'm not gonna make those mistakes again.
 '''Kacey:''' I don't know, Chris. This has given me a lot to think about.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Well, if you want to talk-
 '''Kacey:''' Maybe if you just would've not tried to be so serious, like I asked, I mean just, you know, ba- but, I, you know, I had to get- I- this whole thing is just so suspicious.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Eh- wait a minute, this whole thing?
 '''Kacey:''' Just everything! Everything that I- that I've been getting! In these emails! [Chris tries to talk] Everything my aunt found! [Chris sighs] Come on, don't act like you don't know what we're talking about. [Chris begins talking over her] You know that the trolls have been trolling me.
 '''Chris:''' I d- I do. I, I, I know, but- I know what we're talking about. I'm just processing it and remembering in my ''head''.
 '''Kacey:''' I know but I mean, you said you had a degree, right? So um, why aren't you doing anything with it? Like, when I get mine, I mean, I'm getting my PhD. I'm gonna be getting over $100,000 a year. What're YOU gonna be able to do? You've gotta THINK about that.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Look, my father tol- my father enc- encouraged me to get the- to go to a- computer drafting and design degree, he encouraged me to go to college in the first place!
 '''Kacey:''' Then why aren't you using it?
 '''Chris:''' I mean- because I don't know! I don't know how. I, I mean- I don't- I, I, I, I...
 '''Kacey:''' You apply for a job that says you need this degree!
 '''Chris:''' I know I have the compu- a drafting and design degree and certificate, I've been taught that- I'd have to build buildings and whatever on the computer, about that- that-
 '''Kacey:''' So why don't you do that instead of making a resume that has Sonichu and Rosechu on it? I know they're in a very important part of your life, but you could actually go do something.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] Because, I just, uh- I just feel more comfortable with drawing the comics and the cartoons, than I do with the, uh- with just the, uh- with just the buildings and the computers and whatnot.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well you know what? Well I feel a lot better drawing and doing, you know, singing and stuff than I do waitressing, but you know what? I have to be a productive member of society, and I have to go out and do my job every freaking day whether I rather be home talking to my friends, or going shopping, or doing whatever.
 '''Chris:''' [After a long pause] I see.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, my aunt has done factual independent research, and found out a lot of these things are true that she found out. On her own. [Chris sighs] I mean, you can't-
 '''Chris:''' [Trying to interrupt] I keep feeling-
 '''Kacey:''' -always blame everything with the trolls and ED.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, yeah, I'll admit that, you know, some of the things in the ED are true, but you know, they just take it and they-
 '''Kacey:''' [Talking over Chris] Yes, I know that, I just told you they were!
 '''Chris:''' -but they warp it around! They sla- they make it worse. They're rewording it.
 '''Kacey:''' But Chris, she has been able to verify this information in other places. I just said that it wasn't all ED.
 '''Chris:''' [Sigh] I... [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' You need to start taking responsibility! I mean, I don't think anyone I know wants to stay in their job the whole time but I mean, I mean don't you wanna be a productive member of society? Don't you want- don't you want to go through your own potential? Maybe Sonichu and Rosechu isn't doing it right now, maybe you need to get your foot in the door first.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I'm working on getting my foot in the door. I'm gonna buy a new co- I'm gonna buy new a printer/scanner/copier next week, I'm gonna print out-
 '''Kacey:''' For what? How is that gonna help you with your- with your CADD degree? How is that gonna help you utilize something that you went to school for?
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to print out copies of my number zero book and then some, to send to Marvel, Dark Horse, and Archie comics with my resume, so then Sonichu and Rosechu books could be actually made to get me paper-published, and the merchandise to follow, the video games and all that, so that I could get a (good job) (?) - [Kacey interrupts]
 '''Kacey:''' What if that doesn't work? What's your safety net? What if that doesn't work? [Pause, Chris sighs] Chris, loo- look at Sonichu. It- it's not bad, but what if they don't like it? I mean, it's nothing like, you know, like any other comic books I've seen, and I mean, you- you hijack your own- your own comic and make it about ''you''.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, that's true. But still, I mean, at least I have a worldwide fanbase, I'm very popular! I mean, that's even more than enough for any comic book company to uh, want to- want to accept me, and uh, let me work for them.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, even if you have a fanbase, you know, they have- they, they don't go- they just aren't gonna-
 '''Kacey:''' ["hire you"] -off of your fanbase. I mean, especially if you don't have factual proof of how many there are. They're going to show it to, um, groups that they have that do this for a ''living'', and what happens if they don't like it? I mean, you need a backup plan. I can't believe you have a degree that's just sitting around gathering dust. You went to college! I mean, if I went to college, and just let my degree just sit there, and never got certified, or licensed... I mean what's the whole point? You- you've gotta do something with it.
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Yeah, maybe-
 '''Kacey:''' Don't you think that would make your parents proud?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, my- I would like to make my parents proud. There's so many things in my life I'd like to do. As a matter of fact, you know, during the whole time, even- even while earning my degree, I never actually ''had''- a job game plan- during that, during that time, and even after I got my degree, I just did not know where to go. Just like I, just like the uh- [Kacey interrupts]
 '''Kacey:''' They have career centers at every college for that! [Chris tries to talk, Kacey continues] But then, no, which- you can't even contact now, because you freaking, uh, you got yourself an order where you can't even go there! I mean, they have counselors to help, and you screwed that over, over- this stupid stuff! H- how- how- why?!
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] [[Mary Lee Walsh]] got me very mad. She interrupted my early days of my [[sweetheart search]].
 '''Kacey:''' Oh, and now it's back to Mary Lee Walsh, it's not you, right?
 '''Chris:''' Well, I- you mean- you know- but the yeah, you know, that was the- [stammers]
 '''Kacey:''' I thought you forgave her!
 '''Chris:''' I- I mean- I did forgive her, but still, that's what caused that portion of the thing. I'm just - going back to that for the one time just to reference. Just to reference.
 '''Kacey:''' Look, just because she didn't like how you were trying to get a girlfriend, does not equal you not being able to go on with your life.
 '''Chris:''' [long pause, sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' There are- there- I mean, okay, you, also, like let's - okay, you are on disability. The government has SO much for you. You could go to another college, and they would pay for most of it. They would - you know - they could help you so much, you just need to reach out! I mean, the only thing I'm looking at is that you're saying that- I mean, I just don't know. I mean, especially with you wanting to be a househusband, I mean is just- having sex and a girlfriend more important than having a job, than being a MAN? [Christian sighs] In other cultures, you would not survive.
 '''Chris:''' I- I have the capabilities to survive. I have the capabilities-
 '''Kacey:''' [interjects] Then do it!
 '''Chris:''' -of cooking, I- I'm capable of being able to uh, do laundry, and, uh, and [[chores|all of that]].
 '''Kacey:''' No! That's not what I'm talking about. You have a degree. You need to use it.
 '''Chris:''' [LONG pause] I don't even know of any places around ''Charlottesville'' that are hiring for that sort of thing!
 '''Kacey:''' Why don't you look on them? Go on the internet?
 '''Chris:''' Even if- even though- even though my- even though Susan Hannifan at Piedmont, ehh, says that there are jobs like that around-
 '''Kacey:''' CHRIS.
 '''Chris:''' -Charlottesville, possibly available-
 '''Kacey:''' Chris. You have a-
 '''Chris:''' -even if I graduate-
 '''Kacey:''' You have a CADD degree! You can do work from home! I mean, what happens if you found a great job and it wasn't in Charlottesville? Would it really be that bad if you had to move out of your parents' house?
 '''Chris:''' [pause, pitiful sigh] I grew up in this house! It's like, you know, it's-
 '''Kacey:''' You're 27, you have to leave sometime! Are you waiting for your parents to [[Death#Robert_Franklin_Chandler_Jr._.281927-2011.29|DIE]] or something?
 '''Chris:''' No.
 '''Kacey:''' Then what, you're just going to live there your whole life?
 '''Chris:''' [stammering] I- I just don't know - it's just for awhile, I mean, I have been feeling uncomfortable. And I just- have not found- I just don't- I- [voice climbs into a falsetto] so many things I need to GATHER in my head out of the whole lifetime, I just-
 '''Kacey:''' Okay- Chris. CHRIS.
 '''Chris:''' -and somebody needs to ''understand''.
 '''Kacey:''' Chris. Chris. You want me to be interested in you. But you're telling me right now that you want to live in your parents' house for the rest of your life? W- what?! And you think I'm gonna GO for that?
 '''Chris:''' No, I did not say that, I mean, I mean like, you know, if things got that, got that far, I mean, I would be happy to move in with YOU, if that was the case. But I- I'm just- [sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' But you can't do something for yourself?
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Yeah I just... Uh, so many things tied up with this one house, it- (?) [Kacey talks over him]
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, let's say that you did move in with me, what are you gonna do? Are you just gonna sit around and draw Sonichu and Rosechu, or are you gonna actually go out and do something?
 '''Chris:''' I would actually go out and do something.
 '''Kacey:''' W- why can't you do that first? Why can't you prove to me that first? [Chris sighs] I mean, what are you gonna do?
 '''Chris:''' [pause, sigh] Well... [sigh] I would go out, see if, see if I could find somebody who would hire me?
 '''Kacey:''' Well... I mean, I don't know why you don't just do that right now. I mean, we have the internet, that's so easy. What would- would- would you do?
 '''Chris:''' [sigh] Well, even when it comes to the internet, I don't know what to put into the search term. That just- that- [trails off unintelligibly]
 '''Kacey:''' Put in CADD! Put in your degree! [laughs] It's not that hard! Any... simpleton can figure it out!
 '''Chris:''' ...and then there are more details to where I just, couldn't, I- I just don't comprehend yet. [sigh]
 '''Kacey:''' But Chris, seriously. Y- you need to take this seriously. This is ridiculous.
 '''Chris:''' Y- Yes, it is ridiculous.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, maybe- I... I don't know what to say. I really don't. You're just giving me excuses why you don't need to productive. I mean, are you just gonna... you're just gonna sit around? I mean, you don't even know what kind of job you can get with a CADD degree, do you.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, that is one- that is one problem, yes.
 '''Kacey:''' Well I mean, it's- it's simple, you even said something like, buildings and stuff... I mean, come on! Why don't- why don't you research this? You could go to Wikipedia, for God's sakes, and find out what you can do with a CADD degree. [short pause] You just want to sit around and collect your [[tugboat]] for the rest of your life, don't you.
 '''Chris:''' No, I don't want to just sit around, and collect my tugboat... [trails off]
 '''Kacey:''' Then why haven't you done anything? It's been years since you've been in school.
 '''Chris:''' ...I, I'm sorry, what was that?
 '''Kacey:''' It's been years since you've been in school.
 '''Chris:''' Oh yeah, I have been-
 '''Kacey:''' Why haven't- why haven't you done anything yet? I mean, most people take a gap year, but that's... a... YEAR. ONE YEAR. Not... forever!
 '''Chris:''' [long pause] Yeah, you're right. [another pause] I've just- I've been feeling ''wayward''.
 '''Kacey:''' [pause] ...Wayward?
 '''Chris:''' [mumbles] Yeah... lost. I didn't know what to DO.
 '''Kacey:''' Well, you're gonna stay lost until you actually DO something! Or, you know what, try to go to a school that you're NOT banned from, and get a degree in something you really WANT to do. Why aren't you going into art or something?
 '''Chris:''' [long sigh]I didn't think of that when I first applied for a degree- (?)
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupting] Why don't you do something now? I mean, I'm only one year younger than you, and I'm going to school now. I changed my major, it's not hard. And, you CAN get help. It's a lot harder for me.
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' Some people have multiple degrees. I mean, look at me. I'm double-majoring AND minoring.
 '''Chris:''' ...Huh. ...Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' But, you're not going to do anything. Just, something tells me you're just not.
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to do something! I just... I'm just... processing all this in my head, so then I can figure out, what to do. I mean, my current plan, is to, try to get myself published at Marvel, DC, or Dark Horse, or even-
 '''Kacey:''' You need to- just- Yeah, but you need a backup plan. Forget about that. Forget about that. You need to start by getting a job somewhere. I mean, okay. Okay, also, do you know why? Do it for Rosechu and Sonichu. 'Cause seriously- like, are they going to take you seriously when they see you've been out of work for a long time? Even starving artists do something. I mean, seriously, be a fry cook (??) do SOMETHING. Most people in comics have an art degree anyway. [pause, Christian sighs] And besides, I mean, how far are you really going to GO? When you- made a character out of two copyrighted characters. And, your comics are FULL of things that are copyrighted. I mean, I know they're like private jokes and everything-
 '''Chris:''' [interrupts huffily] It's called- it's called a [[parody]].
 '''Kacey:''' It doesn't ''seem'' like a parody. [Christian sighs again.] A parody generally makes fun of things. Are you making fun of Sonic?
 '''Chris:''' No. ...I just, I'm just... I'm, I'm just accentuating on some of the things that I like!
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, but then, that's- that's a ''fan'' comic! That's not a comic, that is fan FICTION. [Chris sighs again] That's like Mary Sue shit!
 '''Chris:''' [uncomprehending] ...What?
 '''Kacey:''' You can't sell it! It's just fan fiction!
 '''Chris:''' [long pause, sigh, pause] ...I don't know. But anyway, I'm gonna try, anyway, anyway, uh, Plan A, I'm gonna try for, to get myself paper-published and, uh, all that. But yeah, Plan B I'll- I'll definitely take everything that we talked about into consideration. I, I'll Google Computer Aided Drafting and Design and see what I can get with that degree. Or even, I- because, you know, my family could not, because you know, we can't- my family could not afford to, uh, at this time, to even get me classes, even at University of Virginia, which is more expensive than ''Piedmont''.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, but you need permission from the original copyright holders to sell this! Like, you try to sell Sonichu and Rosechu, and Nintendo, and Sega and Konami are gonna be on your ass!
 '''Chris:''' [pause, sigh] I tried to get Nintendo to...
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, didn't you think about that? You think they're not gonna see that?
 '''Chris:''' I thought- I thought about that, and I tried to- [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' [interjecting] Chris. CHRIS. These people have lawyers, and their job is to just go ''everything'' on the internet to find something they can sue over. I'm sur-
 '''Kacey:''' -prised that they didn't FIND it already. ...And if they didn't find it already, how famous can Sonichu really be? 'Cause this is their job. Their JOB is to cause lawsuits.
 '''Chris:''' [long pause] Well they- they- if that was their job, they would have sued me ''years'' ago.
 '''Kacey:''' Then I guess, maybe, Sonichu isn't as big as you thought. I'm not trying to be mean, here. This is [[White Knights|tough love]], Chris. I mean... you've gotta do something. It's reality.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah. [pause] I know, I have to do something. ...I want to do something.
 '''Kacey:''' So, okay, then what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do tomorrow? What are you gonna do tomorrow then.
 '''Chris:''' I'll Google [computer jobs (?)] and- I'll Google CADD, and Charlottesville, and see what jobs are available around here. I- I- I'll leave a message for Mr. Will, and see if I can get a work ticket, on my, on my, degree. On my- [Kacey cuts him off]
 '''Kacey:''' Do you know what I want you to do tomorrow? Do you know what I want you to do? [Chris says something unintelligible] I want you to go out, and put out an application or two. Can you do that? Apply for Target, apply for McDonald's, do something. I want to know, and I want proof, that you are applying for something.
 '''Chris:''' Yeah... I'll, I'll go apply for- I'll go apply, I'll go, I'll go out and apply for, look for some jobs, yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' You'd better. I mean, even WalMart will hire anyone. Do WalMart.
 '''Chris:''' ...All right. I'll go for WalMart. [pause] But it- and also, you know, I still don't understand, how many, what my maximum hours a week are I can work for and keep my social security, because I know, that makes- I know I'm getting more a month than I could at any job like WalMart.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, well... [pause] You better apply for something, or else I just don't know what I'm gonna do. I- I'm definitely gonna... think on this. I mean, and it doesn't matter- if you don't go over certain hours, they'll do you part-time, and then it won't hurt yer tugboat. And you know what, even if you made less- couldn't- couldn't just the pride of knowing you accomplished something be enough? That's the kind of guy that girls want. Not someone who goes, "Oh, I could get more just sitting around doing nothing." And you could get benefits. I mean, come on, isn't that- isn't that worth it?
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah. It is worth it. It, and it takes, it just took somebody- it took, it took somebody like you to, uh, make me realize, about the poten- about the, all that, and that's what- that's what I should be doing.
 '''Kacey:''' I mean, there's tons of disabled people who work. I mean, you like Goodwill a lot, they help out people, and I'm sure they still get their quote-unquote "tugboats." And they're productive.
 '''Chris:''' [pause, sigh] Yeah. I'll go out- I'll go, I'll go, fill out some applications tomorrow, and, uh, like at WalMart and Target, and see if they'll, see if they'll hire me, you know. Even the, even the work, like, a maximum of like, ten hours a week. That's- I mean, I don't know if it's ten or fifteen hours maximum for, you know, not- yeh- I mean, I'll try for ten hours at first.
 '''Kacey:''' ...Okay.
 '''Chris:''' All right.
 '''Kacey:''' But I mean, if you can, if you can get up to twenty hours without hurting your tugboat, I want you to do the full twenty. I want you to really go gung-ho on this.
 '''Chris:''' If I can get- if I can get the full twenty I can go, I'll do that. But I'll, I'll start small with ten.
 '''Kacey:''' No. You need to ask for at least twenty. That's still part-time.
 '''Chris:''' Hmmm. ...Yeah. All right. Well I mean, you know, when I apply with other people, I'll ask, I'll try to go, try to shoot for, like, ten. Just as a- just as a- like-
 '''Kacey:''' No, you put- you put ten to twenty then. At least put ten to twenty. But I want you to do twenty. You can't even just do that for me. That's like, nothing. That's like- even if you work four days a week, that's five hours.
 '''Chris:''' I- I- I'll- I'll do it. I'll- I'll put in ten to twenty hours. And I'll still have, still have to talk to my social security people about uh, this as well.
 '''Kacey:''' I'm pretty sure you can get anywhere, you know, up to twenty hours. You can probably get that online.
 '''Chris:''' All right, I'll- I'll look into it online, and I'll, uh, on the application I'll put ten to twenty hours. On the application.
 '''Kacey:''' You'd better dress nice too, are you gonna dress nice for this? I mean, just in case?
 '''Chris:''' Yeah, I- I- I'll dress nice. I'll dress nice for the interview, yes. I can do that.
 '''Kacey:''' Don't- don't wear your [[Medallion of Fail|medallion]].
 '''Chris:''' [softly, defeated] Okay, I'm not gonna wear my medallion.
 '''Kacey:''' I know that's a part of you, but that, that's not gonna be allowed. Like, I can't even wear necklaces, and I'm a girl.
 '''Chris:''' ...Hm.
 '''Kacey:''' That's like- that's like having piercings going to an interview, it's stupid.
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah.
 '''Kacey:''' And don't- don't draw on the applications!
 '''Chris:''' I will not draw on the applications.
 [long pause]
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, I- I just hope this is really sinking in. Because, I- I have a feeling you're not into this.
 '''Chris:''' It is- it is sinking in. I'm really going to do it.
 '''Kacey:''' Besides, you should put twenty hours a week, because that's just the maximum. They're probably not going to give you that anyway, you'll probably end up with ten, but put twenty.
 '''Chris:''' I will put twenty. On the application.
 '''Kacey:''' Good, because it's gonna make you look a lot more serious, too.
 '''Chris:''' ...Yeah, I do need to be more serious. On that.
[pause] I'm going to do it.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay.
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to- I want to-
 '''Kacey:''' I hope so.
 '''Chris:''' I'm going to look for a job at uh, WalMart, and Target, and fill out applications... and I'm gonna work a maximum of twenty hours. I'm going to do this.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, good. That's good.
 '''Chris:''' ...Kacey?
 '''Kacey:''' Yes?
 '''Chris:''' Thank you.
 '''Kacey:''' You're welcome.
 '''Chris:''' I want you to know that- if you, you know, even though it's tough love, it's all sinking in. It really is. I'm gonna- I'm gonna do it.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay. I hope you do.
 '''Chris:''' And I hope you know, I appreciate you giving me- I appreciate you giving me the... tough love that I needed.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay. ...Well, um, I've gotta go now, so. I hope this all sinks in, but I've really gotta go.
 '''Chris:''' Okay, I'll talk to you later.
 '''Kacey:''' Okay, all right. [hangs up]

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