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Holiday Greetings

2010-10-29T16:08:43Z

Curseshot: lol @ 'four-boomerang-shaped symbol'

'''Holiday Greetings''' (officially '''12052009 - Holiday Greetings.MOV''') is a video uploaded on 5 [[December 2009]] and (for all practical purposes) the Chris-chan Christmas Special. His [[Chris and fashion|brightly-colored and undersized]] Goodwill jacket appears in this video and is distracting throughout.

In the video, [[Chris]], presiding over a snow drawing of [[Sonichu]], which has a ''totally unnecessary'' [[Chris_and_copyright|copyright symbol]] over it, delivers a short Christmas message about how he lit a candle in church and his hopes of a bright future for his Electric Hedgehog [[Pokemon|Pokémon]]. His religious fervor seems far less sincere than (and is quickly overshadowed by) his fixation with Sonichu. [[Chris and his Ego|Note]] that he subtly connects verses prophesying the coming of ''Jesus'' with the hope of turning ''Sonichu'' into a successful franchise.

==Video==

{{Infobox/video
| name = 12052009 - Holiday Greetings
| video = {{#ev:youtube|pEI63sKU3nI}}
| stardate = 05 December 2009
| subject = {{Comics|text}}
| shirt = {{SafetyParka|text}}
| previous = [[Sonichu's Edge]]
| next = [[9 December 2009]]
}}

===Transcript===

Hmmm....

Holiday greetings to all... in my [[Trolls|fanbase]], and whate—and all that.

Happy holidays and... merry [[Christmas]], happy [[Hanukkah]]—Konica... all those fun holidays. Anyway, I'm here—anyway, I come to you this day to wish you the holiday greetings, but also read to you what I have read the past Sunday before this Su— this coming Sunday, when I lit the first Advent candle.

The Gospel, according to Luke:

The gospel of Luke [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|''speaks'' about the future]]:

[''begins to read ''Luke 21:25-36]

"There will be signs from the Sun, [[The Moon|the moon]], and the stars... and on the earth, distress among nations. People will faint from fear and foreboding."

Because our world is full of [[Homos|fear]] and [[Virgin with rage|distress]]. We light our first candle, trusting that Christ is alive on earth and that [[Chris and religion|the Spirit of Christ lives among us]].

We trust you, we love you, we praise you. Amen.

And so I lit the first Advent candle at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|my church]] last Sunday.

[''gasps'']

Thank you all for your continued support, and we will make the... [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation|franchise victorious!]] [''holds up an arm, as though he is Adolf saluting a swastika''] Yeah!

[''Chris walks to the camera and pans it down to a picture of Sonichu's head in the snow, with a copyright symbol next to it'']

[''Loudly and distorted (from being too damn close to the camera)''] Happy holidays to all.

==See also==
* [[Chris and Religion]]
==External links==

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Sonichu's Edge]]|nextlink=[[9 December 2009]]|}}
{{Videos}}

[[Category: Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

Obesity

2010-05-03T23:25:25Z

Curseshot: Undo revision 87646 by Hieghts503 (Talk)

{{Merge|Chris and Health}}
[[Image:Ecp00066.jpg|thumb|A fine example of severe obesity.]]
[[Image:0839-MomDesi.JPG|thumb|180px|PROTIP: The Atkins Diet doesn't work, [[Barb|fatty]].]]

{{quote|One more thing, I AM NOT OVERWEIGHT!!!!!!!!!|Chris, lying to [[White knight emails|White Knight]]}}

'''Obesity''' is an epidemic in America, with 64% of adults overweight and 26% obese. This is especially apparent in the [[14 Branchland Court|Chandler home]], in which 100% of its residents are fucking fat. [[Chris]], [[Barbara]] and even their cat, [[Desi Chandler|Desi]].

Chris seems to be in denial about his own obesity. His denial is evidenced by the fact that he portrays himself as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a slim, barrel-chested hero]] in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]] and in [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]], when he describes himself as "fit as a fiddle".

Another example of this was when he created a character for his comics named [[Sammy]], who Chris stated is based off him when he "temporary gained weight, Became stupid, and went to watch television at ghost command", even though he has always been this way. Except, y'know, for the ghost command part. But that's a whole other problem.

== Exercise ==
[[Image:Cwcspin.gif|right|Exercise]]

Chris believes that exercise involves standing up without moving, and thus considers playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' a workout. During one of his [[PSN]] chats with Julie, when asked to exercise more, he replied, "I'll stand up more". It is not known how Chris came to believe that standing up is exercise, but it is most likely that Chris is simply extremely lazy and will lie to say that he works out every day, even though he just plays vidya. It's possible he's picked it up from health tips that say standing burns more calories than sitting down,<ref>http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/8-ways-to-burn-calories-without-noticing/article16261.html ''Reader's Digest.'' See tip #3</ref><ref>http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/office-exercise/SM00115 ''Mayo Clinic.'' See tip #2</ref> but rather than use such tips to get the most out of an already busy lifestyle, he substitutes it for actual exercise altogether. It's also entirely possible he's in such terrible shape that the simple act of standing tires him as much as an actual workout would tire a normal human being.

[[Emily]] has said Chris power walks around his neighborhood for thirty minutes and claims it's two miles, then claims to jog for two or three minutes every walk. She then went on to say Chris doesn't know how to jog — he thinks you either walk or run full tilt. It's safe to say he tries to run at "[[Sonic]] speed" for ten seconds, then resumes his leisurely waddle. This theory is confirmed in [[Sonichu's Edge]].

== Actual weight ==
In an IRC fan chat, when asked how much he weighed, Chris replied "about 200". During his phone call with [[Kacey and Liquid Call|Kacey and Liquid Chris]], he angrily denied the suggestion that he weighed as much as 220 pounds.

Taking Chris's height into consideration (5'10"), along with the nude pictures circulating the Internet, a better estimation would be in the mid 200s, closing in on 300 pounds thanks to his constant consumption of McNuggets and corn syrup. A healthy weight for someone Chris's height would be somewhere around 160 to 175 pounds, but he's not likely to get that low ever again without the aid of gastric bypass surgery, liposuction, or the amputation of multiple limbs.

Chris has probably asked his [[Barbara Chandler|Mom]] about being fat; being the coddling cow that she is, she more than likely told him he was a slim and attractive young man (which he is... compared to her).

== Denial ==
[[Image:FattyLOL.jpg|thumb|180px|Horizontal stripes are very slimming!]]

Chris has always been in denial about his weight. A white knight once told him that he needed to lose some weight if he ever wanted to get a girlfriend. Chris responded by freaking out and exclaiming that he wasn't fat. In IRC, Chris has been known to become very defensive about his weight, always making claims that he works out, when in fact he just stands up while playing ''Guitar Hero''. Chris's reaction to being called fat is precisely the same as his reaction to being called gay. Unfortunately for Chris, there isn't a [[Homo#Defenses_against_becoming_homo|poster that will help him lose weight]]. He simply screams that he isn't fat, then oftentimes lies, and calls the person accusing him fat. He exhibited this behavior during an email with [[Evan]], during his phone call with [[Father Call|Kacey's father]], and especially in his conversation with [[Kacey and Liquid Call|Kacey and Liquid Chris]], where insults about his weight triggered a screaming rage.

However, during his original rivalry with [[Liquid Chris]], Chris once finally admitted he was perhaps maybe just a little bit fat, but only because he could use this as proof that he was the ''real'' Christian Weston Chandler. A similar problem arose during the [[Asperchu]] saga, where Chris, in an attempt to prove that Asperchu was a parody of himself, was forced to admit that Asperchu's "buddha belly" and "man boobs" are similar to his own. More specifically, he acts as though he ''used'' to have a sagging gut, even though he has, in fact, porked up significantly since High School. He chose to focus on this aspect of Asperchu rather than admit his more embarrassing failures the series parodies. He did once admit in a [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|phone call]] with [[Jack Thaddeus]] that he was not fit.

The fact is, Chris has been spoiled so much by [[Barbara_Chandler|his mother]], told that he was perfect and muscular so much, that he believes that when he looks in a mirror, he sees a six-pack, whereas what the rest of us see is a fat autistic manchild.

There is also convincing evidence that [[autism|Chris has difficulty recognizing]] the human figure — faces in particular. His consistent representation of himself as slender and athletic may be attributable to his having formed his self-image during high school, when he would spend hours studying his then-scrawnier self in the mirror, memorizing his looks.<ref> [[Sonichu 7]] - [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_7/Page_25 "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Furthermore, [[Blanca]] was able to use pictures of different girls with only basic features in common (e.g., hair color and length) to trick Chris into thinking "she" was the same girl.

==Places where Chris likes to eat==
* [[Country Cookin]]
* [[McDonalds]]
* [[Golden Corral]]
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]

==See also==
* [[Chris and health]]
* [[CWC 30 Push Ups]]
* [[51 50]]
* [[Muscle bra]]
* [[Sonichu's Edge]]

==Sauces==
<references/>

{{Health problems}}
[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Talk:Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean

2010-04-13T02:39:29Z

Curseshot: /* Illegal or not? */

Well I tried to transcribe the audio. I got 30 seconds down...yeah I'm a lazy fuck. - SEGA Hikaru

Unless someone gets it done sooner, I'll transcribe this in about 8 hours when I get home. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
: I can get it done presently. BITCH?! [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 23:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:: Okay, that's transcribed and tagged up. Michael Snyder fucking rules. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 00:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
: It sounds to me like Michael says "He probably will" after Chrissy says he hopes God will forgive him. On the hypocrisy front, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it's a capital offense to upload photos of Chris to the internet, but it's perfectly fine for him to upload surreptitious recordings of other people's private phone calls. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 00:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:: I thought I heard that to. [[User:Sarge|Sarge]] 9:06 P.M., 13 April 2010. (EST)
:: Yep, you're right, good catch. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 01:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
== Embracing his racism? ==

So, this year alone we have Chris calling Tito a nigger, and now yells "JEW" at someone IN PUBLIC. Has he finally accepted that he is a racist fuck? How much longer until he comes out as a homo? --[[User:Jeffex|Jeffex]] 00:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

::*inb4 "nawt a forum!", but he does compare him to the trolls, so he might be under the assumption he can use racial slurs against trolls and troll-like individuals and not be called out as racist.--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 00:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* that's a good observation there, Chris seems to think, that it's ok to call racial slur to trolls and people who have done "wrong" to him, and still be the good guy. Chris clearly as usual, didn't thought much before placing this video up on youtube before uploading it.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 00:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==Wallflower-esque?==

I notice that we've added the personal information Chris posted, and I was wondering if we should treat things like the phone number with as much sensitivity as was done in the case of the Wallflower. I understand that he hasn't requested it's removal, but still. Your call. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
: Like I say, that's not Snyder's personal info, it's the address and number of the Game Place (which is in the yellow pages and on the store's website anyhow). That said, Chris may be committing some crime or another by trying to incite people to harass him. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 00:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* I think in this case the address and phone number posted are of the GAMe PLACe and not his personal home? I could be wrong though, if it is his personal info (how the fuck did Chris get that?) then yeah, my vote would be to remove it --[[User:Jeffex|Jeffex]] 00:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* Google Street View shows the staples store that the Game Place is attached to. We're cool. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 01:42, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==Down==

SHIT. Video got pulled. Anyone got a copy for the CWCVille Library?? --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 00:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
*Damn, I had just gone back to his channel to get it down, but I was too slow. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

how much time was this video up anyway? i doubt anyone managed to make a copy of it, the CWCki should make a guide to download Chris's videos, so we have more people keeping back up.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 00:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* I brought the page up at around 6-7 PM EDT. It went down at about 8:15 that same time. 2-3 hours. That's how fast the video went up and down. Yes, I think for the sake of preserving, a video needs to have a copy of it made if something causes it to go down.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 00:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I still have the page open for his video. Is there anyway I can save it from here?[[User:Nimnoms|Nimnoms]] 00:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* You could save the page (If you're using Windows, go to File -> Save Page As, or press CTRL+S)? I don't think you'd be able to rip the video that way, but I think it might still play. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 00:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

And now apparently it's back up. Go figure. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 00:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC

I have it, if any of you guys need it. [[User:SwoopDaWoop|SwoopDaWoop]] 00:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The Library hasn't uploaded it yet, so I did. [http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OTWXKSZB Here's] a download of it too. (It's MegaUpload, sorry.) --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 00:32, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Wow, the Clyde Cash the kid video was up for only a few minutes, and yet we couldn't save this one that was up for 2-3 hours. Thanks and grats to MewLime. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 00:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:I've got a copy on my computer just in case we lose our current one.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:06, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you noticed how fast he now removes his videos? It is clear that Chris acts like this in the hope of escaping the watchful eye of someone. Can we reefer him to another video site?[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 01:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's up for me. [[User:Sarge|Sarge]] 9:03 P.M., 12 April, 2010. (EST)
:This one got taken down by Youtube, not Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:06, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::Wow, YouTube is trolling Chris! This is something new! [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 01:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::Actually it isn't, YouTube banned one of his older accounts because of a [[CWC Calls Out Three Naïve YouTubers|certain video]], he came back under IBA Chandler and I think we all know what happened next. So yes, in a sense it's not the first time YouTube has trolled him. [[User:Kei|Kei]] 01:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==The Sugar Ray song==

Made me fucking lol. I don't know why.--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 00:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==Illegal or not?==

So it appears to me we could have a legal situation on our hands. We need to figure this out. If we do we may have to delete the video although transcriptions might be safe. According to my research though, as long as you are part of the conversation yourself it is perfectly legal to record it. Only thing that he could be busted for is taping the phone call Snyder has. I am not sure. [[User:Ephemeral|Ephemeral]] 00:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* Virginia's "wiretap" law allows you to tape a conversation without the other party's consent as long as it is in a public place. The court would probably consider The GAMe PLACe a public area without an expectation of privacy. But, just goes to show how close he is to committing a real crime and playing Kick the Autistic with Bubba --[[User:Jeffex|Jeffex]] 00:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
**GAMe PLACe is a private business, not a public area. [[User:Lolwutermelon|Lolwutermelon]] 02:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

*Of course theres also the little matter of him droppingthe Game Place address and phone number and more or less telling/"suggesting" "his fans" to raid them on his behalf...--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 02:39, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==Chris thinks its 2009==

In the intro, he says he was banned almost a year ago in 2008. This means he thinks it is 2009. Or maybe he can't tell time... --[[User:Exemplary|Exemplary]] 00:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* I think he did the same thing in a tape released around this same time last year - thought it was 2008 instead of 2009. Aw, well. In the words of Vivian Gee, HONOR ROLL MY ASS--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 00:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==The Wii Incident==
*What is Chris talking about when he mentions the Wii incident? This might be something worth finding out about. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 00:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:* I wondered that myself. The Mimms and Lucas Q&A mentions a time he brought his Wii in to play Brawl, but they don't say anything about Snyder having a problem with it. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 00:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::* It's not so much an incident in that one time Chris wanted to use the big screen TV at the game place but mike wouldn't let him. then mike kicked him out I guess cuz chris was being stupid. This is all Chris remembers [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

== Note that==
* Chris isn't apologizing at all for his actions to mimms, he's just asking to get back because mimms is being a prick who doesn't lets chris in for no reason, when in reality mimms is just looking out for his business. Should someone contact mimms to get more info about this encounter?[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 01:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I don't see much in the video that would suggest Mimms is in it, but I'll see if I can contact him if he might know any more about this. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 01:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I got a hold of Mimms over Facebook. I asked him if he knows anything more about this than what Chris recorded. I'll post whatever he knows. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 02:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*I think you're confusing Mimms for Michael. Mimms was a guy who went to the Game Place but he never worked there or any shit. Lucas already told his side of everything down below. Don't bother Mimms abuot this, everything's been told. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* It should also be noted that Rocky now officially has a copy of this video. I wonder how that will go over? Hmm. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 01:25, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
*wait, how do you know that?[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 01:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
*/cwc/ some anon sent it to her--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 01:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
**If I were rocky, I would delete every E-mail sent to me about Chris. But yeah, she probably watches his videos. It's likely she's seen this by now.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:58, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
**Rocky may not be the one watching his videos, she may not have been watching during the 2-3 hour interval where this video was up, and she deletes all emails she doesn't recognize.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==Mimms' Input==
*Just got a reply from Mimms sharing what he knows.
<blockquote>
"Not really. I mean, what else is there to know? Chris is antisemitic. He walked up to Mike while he was Fixing an RC car. The Audio is pretty much a tell all. Cops didnt make it there in time to fine him or arrest him for trespassing. I guess thats pretty much the extent of the 'unknowns'."
</blockquote>
Apparently the cops were called. [[User:Meat Miracle|Meat Miracle]] 02:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

*Chris was there, there's a recording of it. If there's a trespass order against Chris, the cops don't actually have to see him there. [[User:Lolwutermelon|Lolwutermelon]] 02:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean

2010-04-13T00:33:00Z

Curseshot:

Talk:Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean

2010-04-13T00:30:55Z

Curseshot: /* Embracing his racism? */

Talk:Claw of Fail

2010-03-19T21:08:39Z

Curseshot: /* Page Name */

To do: A gallery of him doing this stupid, stupid gesture. -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 02:56, 1 November 2009 (CET)

Also, categorize this shit. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:39, 1 November 2009 (CET)

Seems to me like this claw is common in his more recent videos, as I see it, it is a symbol of power he uses when making threats.
Anywho I rounded up some poorly cropped screen shots of him making the claw for y'all. --[[User:El Presidente|El Presidente]] 05:40, 1 November 2009 (CET)

He got this from Guitar Hero. It's a power metal thing that Yngwie Malmsteen started called the "Orb of Power". You know, like he's holding an orb. Chris is just bastardizing it. He probably also got it from Brütal Legend. Can we fix the article to better reflect this? [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 02:12, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Page Name ==

I think "Claw of Fail" or "Dramatic Hand Claw of Fail" would sound better and fit in the the other "X of fail" Relics. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 22:57, 9 November 2009 (CET)

* Probably. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 00:08, 10 November 2009 (CET)
:*Doing it. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 17:13, 15 November 2009 (CET)
:*Please, in the future, read [[Talk:Relics_of_Fail|The Taxonomy of Fail]] before putting things into the Relics of Fail category. tl;dr version is that until Chris is dead and trolls can hack off pieces of his body, a body part is NOT a relic (exception to this would be hair, fingernail clippings, etc.). For that matter, this really should be given a different title than "Claw of Fail" as "[[The Creepy Stare]]" was originally "The Creepy Stare of Fail." I'm at lost for a better name, maybe "The Claw" (which is kinda cool sounding) but maybe someone can think of something better or (gasp!) original. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 15 November 2009 (CET)
::*CWC-grip? --[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Wallflower

2010-03-18T21:41:26Z

Curseshot: /* Srsly though... */ i broke it but now it's good again

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|center]]
Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Wallflower

2010-03-18T21:39:59Z

Curseshot: /* Srsly though... */

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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I'll transcribe this I guess. BITCH? [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 19:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:Everybody knows that BITCHES need transcribing.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Damian==
Is he talking about the wallflower? [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 19:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. "Damian Antaria" was a pseudonym of some sort, hence the speech marks in the vid title. [[User:Xentrilus|Xentrilus]] 19:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:: I know it was a pseudonym, just asking to be sure about the gal pal being wallflower. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 19:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Chris is just too stupid to resist dropping the dox of other people on the internet. Of course, it's futile to tell him how bad dropping dox is, since he refuses to listen to anyone other than himself. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 19:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Someone needs to explain to me in very simple terms how can we keep on censoring Chris. I mean, he's INSISTING on dropping WallFlower's name and aliases all over the place. There's little that we can do. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* Maybe when the CWCVille Library mirrors these videos involving the Walliflower, we can ask them to censor her name and upload those videos here instead to keep our promise of censorship for her sake. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 04:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* If the poor gal could keep him on a leash we wouldn't have this problem. Sadly, if she contacted him again, even just to say "for fuck's sake stop splattering my name all over YouTube," he'd probably just think that meant she still wanted him after all... [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 19:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Bloody stalker. That's it, I am out of here; I need a beer! [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* Okay, we're overthinking this. Let's keep her name in the videos and the transcripts and continue as usual. If she complains, we tell her to take it up with Chris--we're just documenting what he says and he insists on dropping her name. We may also need to remind her that the names "Heather" and "Damian Antaria" are not directly linked to one another and the article discussing her connection to Chris has been edited for anonymity.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I googled Damian Antaria and it it led me to a page on fanfiction.net of a girl whose username is Damian-Antaria (real name Antaria Wilson, approximately 24 years old): if she's the girl Chris' talking about then I guess he's going for girls who like yaoi, going against his homophobia.--[[User:OverTheRainbow|OverTheRainbow]]
:Chris probably has no clue that she writes yaoi fanfiction. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Chris is getting desperate for china==
Soon he'll probably just upload a video demanding china.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 3:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'll lol hard if he does that. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 19:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeah I would, but seeing as this is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] we're talking about it seems like he probably will either just claim he got laid even if he didn't or go mad saying that the sex with Lovely Weather actually did happen.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 19:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* How fucking awful is it when, even when not talking to Chris, we use the phrase "china" instead of pussy, and nobody cares?[[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
** It's a clear sign that we're all on this website too much. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 10:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Fun Fact==

Chris posted his threats to Surf Shack Tito around 3 am his time, and this video around 3 pm his time. He's wearing a different shirt, suggesting that he woke up around 2 in the afternoon, depending on how long it takes Chris to put on a different bra and shirt. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 20:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it possible that he woke up earlier and got dressed? Then again, if he's up at 3 in the morning making death threats to second rate Nickelodeon cartoon characters, does it matter?[[User:WarOfTheBees|WarOfTheBees]] 23:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

When does he talk about women loving men who beg? I don't see that anywhere. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* Chris doesn't; that's just an observation by the editor because Chris keeps saying please -- [[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 02:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Actually - he hints at something like this at one point by disagreeing that men are the magnets. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 12:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==I think the transcripts off==

When he says "I mean, you aren't even ready for a boyfriend! You told me so yourself, multiple times! It's better that for a little while", it looks to me like he's saying "I respected that for awhile". It makes more sense to me because he's clearly implying he's a better match for her, thus bringing up his whole "I'm a gentleman" thing he often does when china is involved, and because "It's better that for a little while" doesn't make any sense.--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:43, 15 March 2010 (UTC)