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2023-08-26T04:12:33Z

Cwconthedraw: undid previous edit. edit was done to demonstrate what i mean when i was talking in the main page about bringing current events over to the Cwcki news box. if anyone knows how i could implement this practically, so it automatically updates, i would like to be informed thank you

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Template:CWCki News

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Talk:Main Page

2023-08-26T04:06:25Z

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{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates. For other questions, please use [https://kiwifarms.net/forums/christian-weston-chandler.18/ Kiwi Farms].}}

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== "The encyclopedia about" line ==

Currently it reads "The encyclopedia about Christian Weston Chandler." Should we change that to read "Chris Chan" or "Christine Weston Chandler" instead? Christian hasn't been his name for years. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:27, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:My personal preference is the latter (Christine). Alternatively: "The encyclopedia about the [[Chris|author]] of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''". --[[User:Little Owl|Little Owl]] ([[User talk:Little Owl|talk]]) 04:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
::I say, focus on "Chris-Chan". Officially CWCki policy is to stick with [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|Chris's TRUE and ORIGINAL gender]], so "Christine" isn't typically used in spite of the name-change legally happening. Plus, Chris-Chan is the name that garnered the most attention anyways. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 10:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:"Chris Chan" would be convenient since the [[:File:CWCiki Introduction.jpg]] uses Christian, and "Chris Chan" has been a nickname for both "Christian" and "Christine". Otherwise we would need a new CWCki Intro image with "Christine" to avoid confusion. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 12:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
::Something like this? — "The encyclopedia about [[Chris-Chan]], the author of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''". --[[User:Little Owl|Little Owl]] ([[User talk:Little Owl|talk]]) 20:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:::Okay with me. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
::Chris has been fine with being referred to as Chris post-namechange to Christine, so I think if we were to change it, Chris-Chan/Chris Chan would be the best way to do it. Most people refer to him as Chris as opposed to Christian or Christine anyway. --[[User:Abaddon|Abaddon]] ([[User talk:Abaddon|talk]]) 01:23, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:Someone on the CWCki Discord suggested linking to [[Chris Chan]] as a way to link to his different names. Thoughts? Also, should it be written with or without the hyphen? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
::I agree with Hurtful here, chris chan is a much more well known name and is normally the first thing we think of when we talk about chris. But i also think we should add a 'creator of sonichu' to the tagline too, similar to what little owl thought of. [[User:Mon1ka|Mon1ka]] ([[User talk:Mon1ka|talk]]) 4:01am, 26th of april 2021 (utc)
While we're at it, should we change the disclaimer at the bottom? It seems like a set-up for a punchline about Chris's inability to understand what does and does not qualify as "parody", since the subject of the wiki is a real person. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 06:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
:The editor who added the parody line explained his reasoning [http://cwcki.club/index.php?threads/the-cwcki.1979/#post-55098 in a CWCki Club post]. I think he has a point. Much of the narrative about Chris is framed by trolls who manipulated him. Chris Chan the Internet personality is basically a parody of Chris Chandler the person. Also many CWCki pages, especially earlier ones, tend to be heavy on the mockery. What would you have in mind to change the dislaimer to? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

== Future of coping and begging counters ==

In light of the incest shit and Chris' eviction, do you think we still need the begging and coping counters? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 05:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
:I think that they should probably be taken down at some point and the page should be reorganized, but not until Chris has been detained. We are approaching the end of Christory as it once was, but we're still not there just yet. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 11:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
::I've gone ahead and removed them now he's actually in custody. [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 03:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

== Reorganization ==

After taking down the counters, the page looks weirdly asymmetrical. Could we compensate for this by making each batch of DYK entries longer, or move the CWCki news section to the other side while letting Da Update be longer instead? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 08:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
:I think we should make the DYK batches longer, as making Da Update longer would defeat the purpose of it being a way to see all '''recent''' happenings related to CWC. Also, since I might as well bring it up here, should we add some type of counter related to Chris being arrested? Or would that be too redundant? [[User:Lez|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez|talk]]) 11:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
::Might be worth putting up a new counter for how many days Chris has been in jail, considering he's being held without bond and he got a continence until at least November. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 18:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

==Re-add the discord link==

The discord link was disabled a little while ago, but the discord is now accepting new members again so the link being dead is not necessary, so I think it should be re-added. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 20:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
*Nvm I just figured out that i can fix it. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 21:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

==Wonky formatting==

Something is off with the formatting of the Main Page, I feel this needs to fixed as soon as possible. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 23:01, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think [[User:Good username|Good username]]'s edits to the prison counter messed something up. I'm gonna revert everything there. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 23:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
:Yep, that fixed it. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 23:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

==The formatting of the front page is off again==

With the addition of more counters the front page is off sided once more. Does anyone have any ideas on a good way to fill the space on the right? We could always just get rid of a couple of lines on [[template:DYK|Did You Know]]. Ideas are welcome. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 17:59, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
:I wouldn't mind reducing the number of DYK entries per block (maybe down to 15, or 10 if that's necessary) in favor of having more entries in the randomizer. I tried fixing the formatting on the thing but I couldn't figure it out, and sometimes the template is blank. It may be worth merging the counters into one combined template, though – that might fix some of the formatting problems. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 20:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
:I have proceeded to redistribute the DYK entries to ten entries per blocks, and merge {{tl|DYK}} and {{tl|Did you know}} back together since the latter merely called the former with a parser function. For reference, Wikipedia has eight entries. I may not be able to delete {{tl|DYK}} due to Chris having edited the template back in 2010. --[[User:Little Owl|Little Owl]] ([[User talk:Little Owl|talk]]) 22:26, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

== Jail templates ==

One of the jail templates should mention that Chris intends to post the info of people who contact him. Maybe in the Incarceration Counter? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

== Motherfucker ==

The "encyclopedia about" line could use an update. How about "The premier encyclopedia on [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris Chan]], the author of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and [[Affair with Mother|literal motherfucker]]."? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

:I mean, more and more people are flocking to this website from that for one thing, and this site is pretty much the most comprehensive thing about Chris there is. Even Geno's Documentary series is just a CliffNote version of the site. So I say we update it to that. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:07, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

==Blanked pages==

Whats the deal with all the blanked pages? Is anyone else getting that when logged out? [[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 05:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

:Marvin adjusted some settings. Are things loading better now? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

::Yes they are. I think it's safe to shut off the loading news template. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 16:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

:::Looks like it's happening again... is this an attack or just "normal" wiki issues? --[[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 17:18, 29 October 2022 (EDT)

== CopperCab ==

Not sure where to put this, but CopperCab privated the second part of his interview with Chris, so if anyone has a copy put it in there.

== Downtime ==

Should we put a note somewhere on the Main Page on the CWCki's recent downtime and its return? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:59, 22 October 2022 (EDT)

* Yeah, I think that'd be ideal. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:17, 22 October 2022 (EDT)

* Where would be a good place? Thinking maybe the CWCki News template or writing it directly into Main Page between the Welcome and New? boxes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:59, 22 October 2022 (EDT)

**I was thinking just editing the downtime template for that. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 07:30, 22 October 2022 (EDT)

**Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:47, 22 October 2022 (EDT)

== Consolidate Begging/Jesus Christ Counter ==

Seeing as the "Days since last begged for cash" and the "days since last claiming to be jesus" counters are identical, I think it might make sense to consolidate them. I think it would be more meaningful to simply have a counter for how many days its been since there has been any sighting/communication from Chris considering its pushing 100 days and isn't showing any signs of stopping.[[User:Penis|Penis]] ([[User talk:Penis|talk]]) 17:25, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
:We might as well replace the counter with a days since we've last heard from Chris or just have the Jesus counter; the separate counters served their purpose back when Chris was regularly writing letters and idea of Chris calming to be Jesus was still new but I agree it's not really needed anymore. Also don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes. --[[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 23:53, 24 October 2022 (EDT)
:Agree. Maybe we could go about it by removing both counters from Main Page and modifying the Incarceration one. What was the date of last communication, something from [[Praetor Jail Art]]? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 09:20, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
:I just had a thought. Perhaps a count down to the next known court appearance would add value to the front page?[[User:Penis|Penis]] ([[User talk:Penis|talk]]) 10:30, 17 March 2023 (EDT)

== Banner for more editors ==

Been thinking about adding a template at the top of Main Page basically saying CWCki could use more editors since there's a backlog of info to add and info is continuously being released which needs to be added into articles. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:15, 21 May 2023 (EDT)

== Documentaries Section ==

Turkey Tom's Chris Chan Documentary has been out for a few weeks now and its pretty good. I think its worthy of being added to the documentaries in the "New? Start Here!" section. However, I can also see that there is limited space on that tab. Perhaps we should have a dedicated article for Chris Chan documentaries and link that? There's so many to choose from, and more get created every year at this point. [[User:Penis|Penis]] ([[User talk:Penis|talk]]) 17:33, 7 June 2023 (EDT)

:I don't think a page on his video is warranted, because Chris hasn't reacted to it. As for a documentaries article, maybe the [[Christubers]] or [[Chris in the media (podcasts and vlogs)]] pages could be modified to mention those? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 18:15, 7 June 2023 (EDT)

== Readding Improvement template to Main Page ==

Since there are a lot of active projects, I thought the [[:Template:Improvement‎‎]] could be brought back and added to the main page again. Maybe replacing Quote of the Now since not much is happening with Chris currently (Quote can be added back in if something does happen). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:31, 15 June 2023 (EDT)

== Putting Current events into CWCki news? ==

How would i be able to turn the Current events icon into a template, so whenever there's a new current even the latest one gets put under the empty space in the Cwcki news box? Below the text "Check out the Official CWCki Server Discord, and the section about Chris at the CWCki Club forums, and the Chris Chan subreddit, full of lively and often times thoughtful discussions on Chris and Sonichu. (Use the wiki talk pages or the CWCki-related channels in the Discord for article-related discussions)." to be specific - Cwconthedraw, 5:45 26 August 2023

CWCki talk:Current events

2023-08-26T03:26:31Z

Cwconthedraw: /* Should Chris' dismissal be included in the current events? */

Okay, so what is up with the Jackie thing? Did she dump him? Is she a troll? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Popanator|Popanator]] ([[User talk:Popanator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Popanator|contribs]]) 
:Questions of this nature are best asked on [http://hsienko.com/kiki/ Offshore CWCki] or [[IRC]]. If you read the [[Jackie Chat 1|Jackie chatlogs]] you'll learn quite a bit. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:26, 22 November 2010 (PST)

== Should Chris' dismissal be included in the current events? ==

current events is for events that impact the content of the wiki, which include chris' life. the jailing and then release did impact what new content was being put into the wiki so they fit, however im not sure if my addition is good or no? i feel like if chris has no more legal troubles that is relevant for new content as it means it's more likely to come out more frequently, but im open to that being taken off if theres disagreement - Cwconthedraw - 5:04, 26 August 2023

== Suggest removal of current events link ==

There have been no current events for like 11 months. do we still need the link in the main menu? [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:03, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* ok this current events link is still here and needs to be removed (from the main menu) because there are no current events, otherwise we need some current events. Yeah dawg i like current events so put some current events in my current events so i can be informed while i'm getting informed [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:32, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Supporting this. This page seems completely pointless anyway. It's like a news page, except all the news is old and shorter than most of the Da Update stuff. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:23, 27 January 2012 (PST)
:* ok since my revision was reverted, what is the solution to this issue?[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:34, 7 February 2012 (PST)
:For reference, adding false entries that don't refer to current events is not the solution. Edits like that are counter-productive as hell and just make you seem more like a troll than a genuine editor. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:37, 7 February 2012 (PST)
::* ok this page is old, unused, out of date, deprecated and obsolete. It has been made obsolete by Da Update and has not been updated in over a year. It is linked from a main navigation spot. Its continued existence makes the entire wiki look bad. Please either remove it or at least make Current Events in the main navigation link to Da Update.Sorry If my concern about the inaccuracy and aging nature of this page are a bother, but i cant make this change myself.
:::*"Da update" has and always been for Chris related updates. The current event page has been for CWCki related updates. I generally have only added stuff to it when something major happens like the launching of a new project or trying to make a significant site change that requires user input (like getting rid of the Fan Works). Given that these sort of things don't happen that much, it's not updated much. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, we only really need to make huge changes when they're needed.
::::I'm not singling you out, but I think some people think we need to constantly update stuff, like it somehow looks bad if we're not constantly updating. I see this especially with Da Update, where people will add really trivial stuff to Da Update just so it's more up to date. People are going to keep coming back here, we're the most reliable source of Chris information out there and people are going to keep coming back no matter what. Similar issue here - just because it's not updated constantly doesn't mean we should get rid of the current events. People are going to check it to see what's new with the CWCki and if there's nothing new going on, so be it. I suppose we could start adding trivial shit like policy changes and all that but I think that's just sorta silly.
::::I also looked at how Wikipedia handles their "Current events" page and it looks like it's current events in general, not Wikipedia related. We could treat it like that, except it'd be stickier given current trends, as we might be doing pages on a quarterly instead of monthly basis like we used to.
::::In any case though, Cogs would have to remove the link, I have no way to change that, at least that I know of. And for the love of God Slimz, sign your fucking posts, you've been warned multiple times, if it happens again you'll get a banning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:03, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::::It doesn't require Cogs (I know how to do it), but I don't feel it needs to be removed at this time. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 09:30, 8 February 2012 (PST)
::::Sorry, im hella forgetful about signing posts.. anyway if its not to be removed, it would be noce for it to be at least current in some fashion. Monthly updates are not needed but its been a year. It makes the wiki look like we are not doing anything. I understand the lull in activity on the part of Chris but thats no reason for us to get complacent. In the spirit of "bring me solutions not problems" i would suggest that it be used to post happenings with the wiki. Like recently the images have been getting optimized to PNG, thats something. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST) [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::***This is still bothering me greatly [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:09, 17 February 2012 (PST)
::::::* this page still links to the main menu and has not been updated in a year. thats not current. recent events including chris's return to semi active social networking, and the lemonaid stand could be included. but it seems that the idea of actually updating a section called CURRENT events is not acceptable. that being said, im still all for removing this link all together because there is nothing here that the timeline does not cover [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:20, 2 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::* Wiki events, not Chris events. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 04:44, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::*Like I said, Wikipedia treats "current events" as current events in the world, not the wiki in general. The problem is that we'd have to change the redirect every month (or quarter) to the current month page, otherwise I'd have a redundant page if we left this here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::::*An overhaul isn't necessary. You can edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] to either remove the current events line or change "currentevents-url" to "Template:Da update" (or just redirect the [[CWCki:Current events]] page itself). [[User:Axe|Axe]] 06:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::For what it's worth, even if you decide against removing the Current Events line, having a quick sidebar link to Da Update might come in handy for people who enter the site from somewhere other than the front page (e.g. after getting linked to the Duck page through an external site). That way, they wouldn't have to navigate to the front page first in order to see what's new. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:24, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::*Im with um.. the guy above me who DID NOT SIGN HIS POST ! ! ! remove current events and link it to da update [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:54, 18 July 2012 (PDT)

CWCki talk:Current events

2023-08-26T03:26:00Z

Cwconthedraw: /* Should Chris' dismissal be included in the current events? */

Okay, so what is up with the Jackie thing? Did she dump him? Is she a troll? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Popanator|Popanator]] ([[User talk:Popanator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Popanator|contribs]]) 
:Questions of this nature are best asked on [http://hsienko.com/kiki/ Offshore CWCki] or [[IRC]]. If you read the [[Jackie Chat 1|Jackie chatlogs]] you'll learn quite a bit. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:26, 22 November 2010 (PST)

== Should Chris' dismissal be included in the current events? ==

current events is for events that impact the content of the wiki, which include chris' life. the jailing and then release did impact what new content was being put into the wiki so they fit, however im not sure if my addition is good or no? i feel like if chris has no more legal troubles that is relevant for new content as it means it's more likely to come out more frequently, but im open to that being taken off if theres disagreement - 5:04 26 August 2023

== Suggest removal of current events link ==

There have been no current events for like 11 months. do we still need the link in the main menu? [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:03, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* ok this current events link is still here and needs to be removed (from the main menu) because there are no current events, otherwise we need some current events. Yeah dawg i like current events so put some current events in my current events so i can be informed while i'm getting informed [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:32, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Supporting this. This page seems completely pointless anyway. It's like a news page, except all the news is old and shorter than most of the Da Update stuff. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:23, 27 January 2012 (PST)
:* ok since my revision was reverted, what is the solution to this issue?[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:34, 7 February 2012 (PST)
:For reference, adding false entries that don't refer to current events is not the solution. Edits like that are counter-productive as hell and just make you seem more like a troll than a genuine editor. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:37, 7 February 2012 (PST)
::* ok this page is old, unused, out of date, deprecated and obsolete. It has been made obsolete by Da Update and has not been updated in over a year. It is linked from a main navigation spot. Its continued existence makes the entire wiki look bad. Please either remove it or at least make Current Events in the main navigation link to Da Update.Sorry If my concern about the inaccuracy and aging nature of this page are a bother, but i cant make this change myself.
:::*"Da update" has and always been for Chris related updates. The current event page has been for CWCki related updates. I generally have only added stuff to it when something major happens like the launching of a new project or trying to make a significant site change that requires user input (like getting rid of the Fan Works). Given that these sort of things don't happen that much, it's not updated much. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, we only really need to make huge changes when they're needed.
::::I'm not singling you out, but I think some people think we need to constantly update stuff, like it somehow looks bad if we're not constantly updating. I see this especially with Da Update, where people will add really trivial stuff to Da Update just so it's more up to date. People are going to keep coming back here, we're the most reliable source of Chris information out there and people are going to keep coming back no matter what. Similar issue here - just because it's not updated constantly doesn't mean we should get rid of the current events. People are going to check it to see what's new with the CWCki and if there's nothing new going on, so be it. I suppose we could start adding trivial shit like policy changes and all that but I think that's just sorta silly.
::::I also looked at how Wikipedia handles their "Current events" page and it looks like it's current events in general, not Wikipedia related. We could treat it like that, except it'd be stickier given current trends, as we might be doing pages on a quarterly instead of monthly basis like we used to.
::::In any case though, Cogs would have to remove the link, I have no way to change that, at least that I know of. And for the love of God Slimz, sign your fucking posts, you've been warned multiple times, if it happens again you'll get a banning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:03, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::::It doesn't require Cogs (I know how to do it), but I don't feel it needs to be removed at this time. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 09:30, 8 February 2012 (PST)
::::Sorry, im hella forgetful about signing posts.. anyway if its not to be removed, it would be noce for it to be at least current in some fashion. Monthly updates are not needed but its been a year. It makes the wiki look like we are not doing anything. I understand the lull in activity on the part of Chris but thats no reason for us to get complacent. In the spirit of "bring me solutions not problems" i would suggest that it be used to post happenings with the wiki. Like recently the images have been getting optimized to PNG, thats something. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST) [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::***This is still bothering me greatly [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:09, 17 February 2012 (PST)
::::::* this page still links to the main menu and has not been updated in a year. thats not current. recent events including chris's return to semi active social networking, and the lemonaid stand could be included. but it seems that the idea of actually updating a section called CURRENT events is not acceptable. that being said, im still all for removing this link all together because there is nothing here that the timeline does not cover [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:20, 2 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::* Wiki events, not Chris events. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 04:44, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::*Like I said, Wikipedia treats "current events" as current events in the world, not the wiki in general. The problem is that we'd have to change the redirect every month (or quarter) to the current month page, otherwise I'd have a redundant page if we left this here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::::*An overhaul isn't necessary. You can edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] to either remove the current events line or change "currentevents-url" to "Template:Da update" (or just redirect the [[CWCki:Current events]] page itself). [[User:Axe|Axe]] 06:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::For what it's worth, even if you decide against removing the Current Events line, having a quick sidebar link to Da Update might come in handy for people who enter the site from somewhere other than the front page (e.g. after getting linked to the Duck page through an external site). That way, they wouldn't have to navigate to the front page first in order to see what's new. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:24, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::*Im with um.. the guy above me who DID NOT SIGN HIS POST ! ! ! remove current events and link it to da update [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:54, 18 July 2012 (PDT)

CWCki talk:Current events

2023-08-26T03:25:42Z

Cwconthedraw: /* Should Chris' dismissal be included in the current events? */

Okay, so what is up with the Jackie thing? Did she dump him? Is she a troll? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Popanator|Popanator]] ([[User talk:Popanator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Popanator|contribs]]) 
:Questions of this nature are best asked on [http://hsienko.com/kiki/ Offshore CWCki] or [[IRC]]. If you read the [[Jackie Chat 1|Jackie chatlogs]] you'll learn quite a bit. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:26, 22 November 2010 (PST)

== Should Chris' dismissal be included in the current events? ==

current events is for events that impact the content of the wiki, which include chris' life. the jailing and then release did impact what new content was being put into the wiki so they fit, however im not sure if my addition is good or no? i feel like if chris has no more legal troubles that is relevant for new content as it means it's more likely to come out more frequently, but im open to that being taken off if theres disagreement - 26 August 2023

== Suggest removal of current events link ==

There have been no current events for like 11 months. do we still need the link in the main menu? [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:03, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* ok this current events link is still here and needs to be removed (from the main menu) because there are no current events, otherwise we need some current events. Yeah dawg i like current events so put some current events in my current events so i can be informed while i'm getting informed [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:32, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Supporting this. This page seems completely pointless anyway. It's like a news page, except all the news is old and shorter than most of the Da Update stuff. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:23, 27 January 2012 (PST)
:* ok since my revision was reverted, what is the solution to this issue?[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:34, 7 February 2012 (PST)
:For reference, adding false entries that don't refer to current events is not the solution. Edits like that are counter-productive as hell and just make you seem more like a troll than a genuine editor. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:37, 7 February 2012 (PST)
::* ok this page is old, unused, out of date, deprecated and obsolete. It has been made obsolete by Da Update and has not been updated in over a year. It is linked from a main navigation spot. Its continued existence makes the entire wiki look bad. Please either remove it or at least make Current Events in the main navigation link to Da Update.Sorry If my concern about the inaccuracy and aging nature of this page are a bother, but i cant make this change myself.
:::*"Da update" has and always been for Chris related updates. The current event page has been for CWCki related updates. I generally have only added stuff to it when something major happens like the launching of a new project or trying to make a significant site change that requires user input (like getting rid of the Fan Works). Given that these sort of things don't happen that much, it's not updated much. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, we only really need to make huge changes when they're needed.
::::I'm not singling you out, but I think some people think we need to constantly update stuff, like it somehow looks bad if we're not constantly updating. I see this especially with Da Update, where people will add really trivial stuff to Da Update just so it's more up to date. People are going to keep coming back here, we're the most reliable source of Chris information out there and people are going to keep coming back no matter what. Similar issue here - just because it's not updated constantly doesn't mean we should get rid of the current events. People are going to check it to see what's new with the CWCki and if there's nothing new going on, so be it. I suppose we could start adding trivial shit like policy changes and all that but I think that's just sorta silly.
::::I also looked at how Wikipedia handles their "Current events" page and it looks like it's current events in general, not Wikipedia related. We could treat it like that, except it'd be stickier given current trends, as we might be doing pages on a quarterly instead of monthly basis like we used to.
::::In any case though, Cogs would have to remove the link, I have no way to change that, at least that I know of. And for the love of God Slimz, sign your fucking posts, you've been warned multiple times, if it happens again you'll get a banning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:03, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::::It doesn't require Cogs (I know how to do it), but I don't feel it needs to be removed at this time. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 09:30, 8 February 2012 (PST)
::::Sorry, im hella forgetful about signing posts.. anyway if its not to be removed, it would be noce for it to be at least current in some fashion. Monthly updates are not needed but its been a year. It makes the wiki look like we are not doing anything. I understand the lull in activity on the part of Chris but thats no reason for us to get complacent. In the spirit of "bring me solutions not problems" i would suggest that it be used to post happenings with the wiki. Like recently the images have been getting optimized to PNG, thats something. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST) [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::***This is still bothering me greatly [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:09, 17 February 2012 (PST)
::::::* this page still links to the main menu and has not been updated in a year. thats not current. recent events including chris's return to semi active social networking, and the lemonaid stand could be included. but it seems that the idea of actually updating a section called CURRENT events is not acceptable. that being said, im still all for removing this link all together because there is nothing here that the timeline does not cover [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:20, 2 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::* Wiki events, not Chris events. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 04:44, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::*Like I said, Wikipedia treats "current events" as current events in the world, not the wiki in general. The problem is that we'd have to change the redirect every month (or quarter) to the current month page, otherwise I'd have a redundant page if we left this here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::::*An overhaul isn't necessary. You can edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] to either remove the current events line or change "currentevents-url" to "Template:Da update" (or just redirect the [[CWCki:Current events]] page itself). [[User:Axe|Axe]] 06:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::For what it's worth, even if you decide against removing the Current Events line, having a quick sidebar link to Da Update might come in handy for people who enter the site from somewhere other than the front page (e.g. after getting linked to the Duck page through an external site). That way, they wouldn't have to navigate to the front page first in order to see what's new. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:24, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::*Im with um.. the guy above me who DID NOT SIGN HIS POST ! ! ! remove current events and link it to da update [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:54, 18 July 2012 (PDT)

CWCki talk:Current events

2023-08-26T03:25:17Z

Cwconthedraw:

Okay, so what is up with the Jackie thing? Did she dump him? Is she a troll? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Popanator|Popanator]] ([[User talk:Popanator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Popanator|contribs]]) 
:Questions of this nature are best asked on [http://hsienko.com/kiki/ Offshore CWCki] or [[IRC]]. If you read the [[Jackie Chat 1|Jackie chatlogs]] you'll learn quite a bit. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:26, 22 November 2010 (PST)

== Should Chris' dismissal be included in the current events? ==

current events is for events that impact the content of the wiki, which include chris' life. the jailing and then release did impact what new content was being put into the wiki so they fit, however im not sure if my addition is good or no? i feel like if chris has no more legal troubles that is relevant for new content as it means it's more likely to come out more frequently, but im open to that being taken off if theres disagreement

== Suggest removal of current events link ==

There have been no current events for like 11 months. do we still need the link in the main menu? [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:03, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* ok this current events link is still here and needs to be removed (from the main menu) because there are no current events, otherwise we need some current events. Yeah dawg i like current events so put some current events in my current events so i can be informed while i'm getting informed [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:32, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Supporting this. This page seems completely pointless anyway. It's like a news page, except all the news is old and shorter than most of the Da Update stuff. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:23, 27 January 2012 (PST)
:* ok since my revision was reverted, what is the solution to this issue?[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:34, 7 February 2012 (PST)
:For reference, adding false entries that don't refer to current events is not the solution. Edits like that are counter-productive as hell and just make you seem more like a troll than a genuine editor. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:37, 7 February 2012 (PST)
::* ok this page is old, unused, out of date, deprecated and obsolete. It has been made obsolete by Da Update and has not been updated in over a year. It is linked from a main navigation spot. Its continued existence makes the entire wiki look bad. Please either remove it or at least make Current Events in the main navigation link to Da Update.Sorry If my concern about the inaccuracy and aging nature of this page are a bother, but i cant make this change myself.
:::*"Da update" has and always been for Chris related updates. The current event page has been for CWCki related updates. I generally have only added stuff to it when something major happens like the launching of a new project or trying to make a significant site change that requires user input (like getting rid of the Fan Works). Given that these sort of things don't happen that much, it's not updated much. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, we only really need to make huge changes when they're needed.
::::I'm not singling you out, but I think some people think we need to constantly update stuff, like it somehow looks bad if we're not constantly updating. I see this especially with Da Update, where people will add really trivial stuff to Da Update just so it's more up to date. People are going to keep coming back here, we're the most reliable source of Chris information out there and people are going to keep coming back no matter what. Similar issue here - just because it's not updated constantly doesn't mean we should get rid of the current events. People are going to check it to see what's new with the CWCki and if there's nothing new going on, so be it. I suppose we could start adding trivial shit like policy changes and all that but I think that's just sorta silly.
::::I also looked at how Wikipedia handles their "Current events" page and it looks like it's current events in general, not Wikipedia related. We could treat it like that, except it'd be stickier given current trends, as we might be doing pages on a quarterly instead of monthly basis like we used to.
::::In any case though, Cogs would have to remove the link, I have no way to change that, at least that I know of. And for the love of God Slimz, sign your fucking posts, you've been warned multiple times, if it happens again you'll get a banning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:03, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::::It doesn't require Cogs (I know how to do it), but I don't feel it needs to be removed at this time. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 09:30, 8 February 2012 (PST)
::::Sorry, im hella forgetful about signing posts.. anyway if its not to be removed, it would be noce for it to be at least current in some fashion. Monthly updates are not needed but its been a year. It makes the wiki look like we are not doing anything. I understand the lull in activity on the part of Chris but thats no reason for us to get complacent. In the spirit of "bring me solutions not problems" i would suggest that it be used to post happenings with the wiki. Like recently the images have been getting optimized to PNG, thats something. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST) [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::***This is still bothering me greatly [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:09, 17 February 2012 (PST)
::::::* this page still links to the main menu and has not been updated in a year. thats not current. recent events including chris's return to semi active social networking, and the lemonaid stand could be included. but it seems that the idea of actually updating a section called CURRENT events is not acceptable. that being said, im still all for removing this link all together because there is nothing here that the timeline does not cover [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:20, 2 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::* Wiki events, not Chris events. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 04:44, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::*Like I said, Wikipedia treats "current events" as current events in the world, not the wiki in general. The problem is that we'd have to change the redirect every month (or quarter) to the current month page, otherwise I'd have a redundant page if we left this here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::::*An overhaul isn't necessary. You can edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] to either remove the current events line or change "currentevents-url" to "Template:Da update" (or just redirect the [[CWCki:Current events]] page itself). [[User:Axe|Axe]] 06:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::For what it's worth, even if you decide against removing the Current Events line, having a quick sidebar link to Da Update might come in handy for people who enter the site from somewhere other than the front page (e.g. after getting linked to the Duck page through an external site). That way, they wouldn't have to navigate to the front page first in order to see what's new. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:24, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::*Im with um.. the guy above me who DID NOT SIGN HIS POST ! ! ! remove current events and link it to da update [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:54, 18 July 2012 (PDT)

CWCki:Current events

2023-08-26T03:19:47Z

Cwconthedraw: added new entry

{{EventEntry|25 [[August 2023]]|The Sonichu Redemption|[[Jail_Saga#Dismissal|Chris' charges for incest are dropped.]] He walks among us.}}

{{EventEntry|1 [[May 2023]]|Look Who's Back!|[[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart|The Chris is seen]] for the first time in public since his arrest.}}

{{EventEntry|27 [[March 2023]]|On The Loose|[[Jail Saga#Bonded out or Released by court order|Chris is released]] from prison "by court order".}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[February 2023]]|Happy Birthday, Chris!|The CWCki celebrates Chris's 41st birthday.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2023]]|The CWCki turns 14|The CWCki turns 14 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[February 2022]]|Happy Birthday, Chris!|The CWCki celebrates Chris's 40th birthday.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2022]]|The CWCki turns 13|The CWCki turns 13 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|1 [[January 2022]]|Happy new year!|Hope this year is better than the last one...}}

{{EventEntry|1 [[August 2021]]|This is the end?|Chris is arrested and sent to jail for having sexual intercourse with his mother. Expect less new content from Chris.}}

{{EventEntry|17 [[March 2021]]|Happy Birthday, Sonichu!|The CWCki celebrates Sonichu's 21st anniversary.}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[February 2021]]|Happy Birthday, Chris!|The CWCki celebrates Chris's 39th birthday.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2021]]|The CWCki turns 12|The CWCki turns 12 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|17 [[March 2020]]|Happy Birthday, Sonichu!|The CWCki celebrates Sonichu's 20th anniversary.}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[February 2020]]|Happy Birthday, Chris!|The CWCki celebrates Chris's 38th birthday.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2020]]|The CWCki turns 11|The CWCki turns 11 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2019]]|The CWCki turns 10|The CWCki turns 10 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2018]]|The CWCki turns 9|The CWCki turns 9 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2017]]|The CWCki turns 8|The CWCki turns 8 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2016]]|The CWCki turns 7|The CWCki turns 7 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2015]]|The CWCki turns 6|The CWCki turns 6 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|23 [[July 2013]]|JenkinsJinkies Week|Happy [[JenkinsJinkies]] Week! This week marks the third anniversary of our favourite troll.}}

{{EventEntry|4 [[February 2011]]|[[CWCki:Inside the Pickle Suit|Inside the Pickle Suit]]|Inside the Pickle Suit, a new CWCki project wherein CWCki users can ask famous Chris trolls for their side of their story. First candidate is [[Ivy|Ivy's ghost]] so be sure you submit your questions by the 10 February deadline.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2011]]|The CWCki turns 2|The CWCki turns 2 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|15 [[October 2010]]|Fan Works deletion|The votes are in: the Fan Works section has been deleted.}}

{{EventEntry|4 [[October 2010]]|Fan Works fate|Vote [[CWCki:General#getting_rid_of_the_fan_works_section|here]] to determine the fate of the Fan Works index. Voting ends 15 October.}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[March 2010]]|[[Mumble]] transcription month|March is Mumble Month! First organized project of the [[Transcription Collective]] is to finish transcriptions of the [[Mumble]] chats. First project is [[Mumble 2]]. Participants will receive a SPECIAL EDITION userbox. See [[CWCki_talk:Transcription_Collective#March_is_Mumble_Month|here]] for details.}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[February 2010]]|Chris's birthday and [[CWCki:Transcription Collective|Transcription Collective]]|CWCKi celebrates Chris's 28th birthday. In celebration, the [[CWCki:Transcription Collective|Transcription Collective]], a new CWCki project to aid with media transcription, is launched.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2010]]|Happy birthday, CWCki!|The CWCki's MediaWiki incarnation turns 1 year old today.}}

{{EventEntry|4 [[January 2010]]|CWCki upgrades!|The CWCki moves onto a new server. Within the first 24 hours, all of its images are [[CWCki:Operation Restore|restored]]. With the increased file space the new server offers, CWCki is set to improve even further.}}

{{EventEntry|11 [[December 2009]]|[[CWCki:Operation Grammatification|Operation Grammatification]] is launched|Operation Grammatification, an ongoing project and initial drive, is a new CWCki project designed to correct improper grammar and spelling on the CWCki and to adhere the wiki to standard wiki style.}}

{{EventEntry|30 November 2009|[[CWCki:Artist Commune|Artist Commune]] is founded|The new CWCki project, the Artist Commune, is now launched, to get original art to enrich the CWCki and improve article quality.}}

{{EventEntry|29 November 2009|[[CWCki:Operation Mailbag|Operation Mailbag]]|Operation Mailbag is live. CWCki users, have your questions answered by the [[Christian Weston Chandler|big CWC]] himself on his [[Mailbag]] feature on [[CWCipedia]]. Please refer to the [[CWCki talk:Operation Mailbag|rules of engagement]] before submitting e-mails.}}

{{EventEntry|31 October 2009|Happy Halloween!|It's Halloween on CWCki and we changed the logo to celebrate. The first CWCki holiday logo was designed by PVCC user HugglesAndPuggles. Expect more to come on upcoming holidays.}}
{{EventEntry|25 June 2009|Half Birthday|[[CWCki]] turns six months (0.5 years) old today! Happy birthday!}}

{{EventEntry|05 June 2009|Categorizing videos|A discussion on [[CWCki:Community_Portal#Categorizing_videos_-_POLICY_TYPE_VOTE|revising video categorization]] is underway. All CWCkipedians are encouraged to participate and contribute their thoughts. Discussion ends 12 June 2009.}}

{{EventEntry|01 [[April 2009]]|APRIL FOOL'S|lol, April Fool's.}}

{{EventEntry|25 March 2009|Scrapbook of Fail|Some new, hi-res images of slide show pictures from the [[DVD]] have been uploaded.}}

{{EventEntry|24 March 2009|Scrapbook of Fail|All 518 images from the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] have been uploaded.}}

{{EventEntry|11 March 2009|The best damn icon ever|This page gets an icon.}}

{{EventEntry|10 March 2009|The Great Unsuckening|CWCki undergoes a makeover to make it look like a more respectable wiki.}}

{{EventEntry|27 January 2009|Editing In Progress|The CWCki undergoes heavy editing in order to take over from its predecessor}}

[[Category:Events]]

[[Category:CWCki]]

August 2023

2023-08-26T03:15:12Z

Cwconthedraw: gave the intro paragraph more of an importance

{{ongoing}}
[[File:4August2023 CWC.png|thumb|200px|Chris in August.]]
'''August''' is the eighth month of '''[[2023]]'''. It brought the infamous end to the [[Jail Saga||Jail Saga]], with Chris' return to the Internet for the first time in 2 years, being sighted on gaming services he used to use prior to the arrest, and with his charges being full on dismissed on the 25th.
==Notable events==
*'''1 August''' - The two-year anniversary of [[Incest Arrest|Chris's arrest]] following the [[Affair with Mother|incest fallout]].
*'''4 August''' - [[Twitter]] user 'TheOtakuKing' [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(August)|spots Chris]] at [[Mal-Wart|Walmart]] and has a conversation with him.
*'''8 August''' - Chris's review scheduled for this date results in "Resolved Order Pending".<ref>[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 8 August 2023.png]]</ref>
*'''9 August''' - The judge overseeing Chris's incest case enters for dismissal of the charge.<ref>[[Jail Saga#Pleadings/Orders Detail]]</ref>
*'''11 August''' - Chris was spotted online on his Pokemon Go account 'ChrisChanSchu82'
*'''12 August''' - The personal description in his PSN account changed from "I am Christine. <3" to "I'm Christ Chan Prime"
*'''16 August''' - Chris starts liking numerous different tweets on Twitter, including ones about [[My Little Pony]], GFuel, and his return to Twitter, marking his first activity on social media in over two years.<ref name=tweets>[[Twitter#Post-jail activity]]</ref>
*'''17 August''' - On Twitter, Chris likes four more tweets with one of them being a comic about [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|''My Little Pony'' characters looking at each other's asses]].<ref name=tweets></ref>
*'''18 August''' - On Twitter Chris likes more tweets.<ref name=tweets></ref>
*'''19 August''' - Chris's activity on Twitter skyrockets as he likes seventeen tweets in one day. Most of them are tweets about a romance book series called "The Jane Austen Series", along with a person's response to a meme about [[Love Quest|missing out on "teen love"]].<ref name=tweets></ref>
*'''20 August''' - Otaku King, the person behind the [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(August)|August Walmart Sighting]], releases a video describing the conversation he had with Chris, along with his desire to mentor him.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Second_Video]]</ref>
*'''23 August''' - Chris makes his first post-jail social media posts on [[DeviantART]] as he dumps previously unseen artwork - including [[Jail art]], colorized ''[[Sonichu 15]]'' pages, and art drawn since his release from jail.<ref>[[DeviantART#NightStarRosechu2891]]</ref>
*'''24 August''' - Chris is spotted buying food at a Walmart in Lynchburg, VA.<ref>[[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart (August) Part II]]</ref>
*'''25 August''' - Chris's incest case file is updated to state the charge is "Dismissed".<ref>[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 25 August 2023.png]]</ref>
{{References}}
{{timeline}}

September 2020

2022-08-01T18:11:43Z

Cwconthedraw: /* Highlights */

[[File:Cwc0920.jpg|thumb|Chris in September 2020]]
{{SonichuPossession}}
'''September''' was the ninth month of [[2020]]. Chris spent most of the month answering questions through [[Discord]]. Chris also uploaded [[Bonus short update from Barb 09/04/2020|a short video]] with Barb to show that she is fine, and [[To Cole Smithey, from Barb, and Sonichu (Prime)|a video]] of Barb addressing [[Cole Smithey]]. At this point in time, it had been half a year since the [[COVID-19]] pandemic had started spreading through the [[United States]].

==Highlights==
* '''2 September''' - The two [[debt]] cases from January wrap up; Chris owes $2,773.56 to one of his creditors and $905.36 to the other.
* '''2 September''' - In [[September 2020 Watchmen leaks#Debt hearing, toys, Merge|a message to a Watchman]], Chris discusses his debt hearing, ''[[Transformers]]'' toys, and the [[Dimensional Merge]].
* '''4 September''' - Chris has [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] record [[Bonus short update from Barb 09/04/2020|a video saying she's fine]].
* '''4 September''' - Chris records [[Red vs Blue Reaction Livestreams|a reaction video to the fourth part]] of [[TF2 Analysis]]'s ''Red Vs Blue'' brony cartoon.
* '''6 September''' - The nine-year anniversary of [[Bob]]'s passing.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html Bob's date of death]</ref>
* '''7 September''' - Chris orders [[Naught]] to fulfill his outstanding orders for him and sends Naught screenshots of his customers' information.<ref>[[Naught DMs#Fulfill the orders]]</ref>
*'''8 September''' - Chris [[September 2020 Watchmen leaks#Luan Loud plush and RPing as alt-Chris|receives a Luan Loud plush in the mail.]]
* '''8 September''' - Chris [[Discord Q&A 5|answers more Q&A questions]] through [[Discord]].
* '''9 September''' - Chris continues to answer the questions.
* '''11 September''' - Chris [[Discord Q&A 6|responds to even more Q&As]].
* '''15 September''' - Chris [[Discord Q&A 7|answers his seventh Q&A on Discord]].
*'''16 September''' The first of the released [[The Journey to the Merge]] Discord caps takes place.
* '''24 September''' - Chris [[Discord Q&A 8|responds to more questions on Discord]].
*'''30 September''' - Chris releases [[To Cole Smithey, from Barb, and Sonichu (Prime)|a video]] in which [[Barbara|his mother]] addresses his half-brother [[Cole]].

==Activity==
===Chats===
*[[Naught DMs‎]]
*[[September 2020 Watchmen leaks]]

===Posts===
*[[September 2020 social media posts]]

===Videos===
*[[Bonus short update from Barb 09/04/2020]]
*[[Red_vs_Blue_Reaction_Livestreams#Watching_TF2_Analysis_Anarchy_Red_Vs_Blue_Part_4.2C_plus_a_few_thoughts.|Watching TF2 Analysis Anarchy Red Vs Blue Part 4, plus a few thoughts.]]
*[[To Cole Smithey, from Barb, and Sonichu (Prime)]]
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September 2022

2022-08-01T18:10:20Z

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{{Orphaned}}
'''September''' will be the ninth month of [[2022]].

==Highlights==
* * '''6 September''' - Eleventh anniversary of [[Bob]]'s passing.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html Bob's date of death]</ref>

==References==
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Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2

2022-01-25T05:12:14Z

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'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2''' is the second of the calls between Chris and [[Alec Benson Leary]], which took place on 28 [[January 2010]].

==Summary==
[[Image:Toontown.jpg|thumb|THIS IS WHAT CHRIS ACTUALLY BELIEVES.]]
Alec lets Chris ramble on about the ads on the [[CWCipedia]] again before the topic changes to subjects that make Chris feel uncomfortable in his [[Mailbag]]. On the subject of [[Rosechu]]'s gender and pointed tail, Chris attempts to get Alec to believe he meant for the original Raichu's tail to be dull all along and becomes angry when Alec points out that he is lying.

Chris goes on to discuss how he feels that [[Asperchu]] is a [[Chris and reality|living, breathing creature in another universe with thoughts and feelings who wouldn't want to be named "Asperchu."]] Alec claims that Asperchu is unable to have a desire to be named something else because Asperchu doesn't exist, and Chris responds by repeatedly calling him "[[naïve]]" for not believing in a cartoon world similar to that seen in ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}''.

They both agree to disagree, then move on to the lack of updates in [[Sonichu]]. Chris blames his [[biological clock]] for his inability to upload new pages and explains how the [[Chris and writing|creative process]] of his work requires a pain-staking thirty minutes of typing dialogue. Chris admits to using Photoshop, but says that since his comics are [[Chris and art|hand-drawn and hand-colored]], in his [[TRUE and HONEST]] opinion (and that of [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]], apparently) ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is the superior comic. Alec points out that he draws his comics by hand, even if it's with a {{w|graphics tablet}}, and that his art doesn't have any less "personality" than Chris's work.

Chris returns to complaining about the [[CWCipedia]] adspace, hinting that the only real reason he's negotiating with Alec at all is to get the Asperpedia ads removed. Alec brings up [[Simonchu]], and Chris falsely<ref>[[:File:Fkinglie.png]]</ref> denies [[Simonla]] was ever inspired by Simonchu. When that Alec explains that Evan wants Simonchu and Simonla written out of the comic, and that Evan may consider taking [[Chris and the law|legal action]], Chris replies with "I'll think about it". Unsurprisingly, Evan did take [[CWCipedia#Closed (again) due to theft|legal action]].
{{Clear}}

==Alec Calls Chris==
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{{Infobox/Audiofile
| name = Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2
| audio = {{#ev:archiveorg|chrisalex-2}}
| Stardate = 28 [[January 2010]]
| Featuring = [[Chris]]; [[Alec]]
| Saga = {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]]
| previous = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1]]
| next = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3]]
}} </center>

[[Image:comparison.jpg|thumb|He might have a point here]]
=== Transcript ===

'''Chris:''' Hello?

'''Alec:''' Hi, is this, uh, is this Chris?

'''Chris:''' Yeah, this is Christian Chandler, may I help you?

'''Alec:''' Hey Chris, this is Alec Benson Leary again, how are you?

'''Chris:''' Oh! I would have expected you to call at 9:30, uh, but anyway...

'''Alec:''' Oh! I actually did try to call at 9:30, didn't get an answer so I thought I'd try again, you-you're quite a difficult man to get a hold of, Chris.

'''Chris:''' Hmm... Yeah, I can talk for a few minutes, so let's try not to belabor this conversation.

'''Alec:''' Not at all, I don't... I don't wanna drag anything out. Um, well first I'll ask you if you have anything, uh, specific that you want to bring up, cause I know that you had to go kinda abruptly last time, and I thought maybe that there was a point you didn't get to or anything.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.

'''Alec:''' Okay... Wanna go ahead with that?

'''Chris:''' Umm... well first off, you know...you know I have, um...I have gone to the CWCipedia recently, its the Ads are still super-sized, but, they are more of a mockery towards me now, and I do not appreciate that.

'''Alec:''' Yeeeaaah, I'm sorry about that, [[Mao]] is kinda, he got a little bit of a temper, you know, h-he-he is kinda mad about this whole... the [[mailbag]] situation, emails getting deleted and all that sort of thing. You know, I-I-I um, I saw in, uh, [[Mailbag_45#Chris_NEVER_deletes_letters|one of your mailbags]], that you said that I delete, or uh, modify a lot of my e-mails. I don't know where you got that impression, actually, I don't do that. You know, I try to answer every e-mail I get thoughtfully, and fully.

'''Chris:''' Well, that's probably easy for you...probably easier for you because, yours are not as... mean and cruel and condescending as the ones I have been getting.

'''Alec:''' Have you been getting a lot of mean ones that have not been go into the mailbag? Cause, the ones I've see... a lot of them, well they do get critical at points, but I... I dunno, it seems like they been, they just kinda wanna, you know, have some questions answered.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, But I wish they wouldn't have'ta go so critical.

'''Alec:''' Like, uh, what do you mean, like uh, what are some of the things that you found just kinda crossed the line?

'''Chris:''' Like-Like they talk about... Like they talk about [[copyright]] issues and crap...

'''Alec:''' [''Trying to talk''] Well that is...that is kinda of an important issue, I mean...

'''Chris:''' [''Interrupting''] BUT-but I have my own [[Chris and copyright#Copyright registration|copyright registration]], that slip of paper I got from the [[Virginia]] Library of Congress...

'''Alec:''' Yeah, uh, I noticed one of the copyright related e-mails was um, someone asked if they could see, just some letter, or some evidence [[Sega]] or [[Nintendo]] gave you, uh, permission to go with [[Sonic]] and [[Pikachu]], and that kinda stuff for [[Sonichu]]'s origin story. Um, you know, if you provided those, that would silence those kind of e-mails right away.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.

'''Alec:''' I mean, you do have copyright of Sonichu, but you would still need to show Nintendo's permission to publish it, you know what I mean?

'''Chris:''' Hmm...

'''Alec:''' 'Cause it has Pikachu in the origin story.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.

'''Alec:''' Yeah, yeah, I think that would be a good idea to show everyone in the mailbag, you know, that would shut up that line of questioning right away.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, but there's... also... the homosexuals, and uh, other topics, ugh, I can't remember them off the top of my head. Yeah, there's quite a few.

'''Alec:''' Like the accusations that [[Rosechu#Transgenderism|Rosechu is a boy]]? I think, that was kind of a big thing-

'''Chris:''' Yeah-

'''Alec:''' People were going after-

 '''Chris:''' But I, I mean, yeah, that's only before the [[rainbow]] strike, I mean, the point where that Raichu- female Raichu is within the rainbow, that would be after the rainbow strikes that Raichu.

'''Alec:''' Hmm.

'''Chris:''' And with the power of the- with the power of the [[Sonichu Balls|Chaotic Crystals]].

'''Alec:''' Well you know-

'''Chris:''' I-it was with a point, it was as point to the end of that tail, in the two panels that preceded it, the tail was definitely dull at the end.

'''Alec:''' Uhh, well, you know, the- as far as I know, the original comic does have a point tail, like a male has, and that's- that's still on [[CWCipedia|your website]], isn't it?

'''Chris:''' I-

'''Alec:''' You know, one thing I thought about was the gender differences in the Pokémon, that didn't, Nintendo didn't do that until a while after you created it, Sonichu, right? So, I mean, I just don't get why you didn't go with that. That would've been a good explanation, but instead you kinda [[lie]]d to your [[fans]].

'''Chris:''' What do you mean, lied? I did not lie, I mean, you look at the two pictures before the rainbow hit, the tail is dull on the tip.

'''Alec:''' Oh, well, I see that in your picture that's on the front of the CWCipedia, but on the original comic he had a pointy tail, or she, I mean.

'''Chris:''' The original-

'''Alec:''' I've seen the original.

'''Chris:''' That's because- look, outside, [[Chris and art|that's just a line that is going outside of the square]], [[Chris and reality|whatever goes outside, does not necessarily count.]]

'''Alec:''' Uh, it doesn't look like it goes, like, outside the panel here, but... I mean, y'know... I don't really know. I know that you don't... you probably should have corrected that mistake, but you left it in. I mean, I'm just trying to- I mean, I just kinda wish that thing had gotten nipped in the bud. It kinda sucks, but this is like, a huge point of contention right now.

'''Chris:''' Yeah. Al-also, you know, another thing, I've actually found, I've actually found a [[Sonichu Forum|forum of my loyal fans]], and I have just read some posts about the ads that have been placed in the CWCipedia, and they really don't like 'em either.

'''Alec:''' Hmm.

'''Chris:''' So, I'm not alone in that.

'''Alec:''' Well, alright. Well... you know, uh... if they wanted to buy the ad-space that's, I'm sure they could too. I mean, again, y'know, the ads, I'm gonna keep trying to talk to Mao but it's really his area. Mao's kind of the boss of the ads, I'm just kind of the artistic genius. Mao does the business work.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, that definitely do not appreciate that- that drawing of me, in a [[Butt garments|diaper]], and then just copying and pasting my signature to that.<ref>[[:File:Cwcbaby.jpg]]</ref> That's just wrong.

'''Alec:''' Well, you know, um, I noticed that even after our last talk you continued referring Asperchu as [[Mitch Sonichu|Mitch]]. I thought we had that cleared away. I thought you knew he was Asperchu, I mean Asperchu is my original creation.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, maybe so, but still-

'''Alec:''' And I think you still have the impression that Asperchu is a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]], and you know that's not true, right? Asperchu is not a Sonichu.

'''Chris:''' Hmm, yeah, okay, but still think about this, y-y-y-you picked- you gave him the condition of [[Aspergers]].

'''Alec:''' Yes, that's correct. Oh! That's another thing. I think you, I think you thought that I gave everyone that appeared on my comic Aspergers, but only Asperchu has it. Just Asperchu.

'''Chris:''' [Sighs] Well-

'''Alec:''' Okay, you were gonna say something?

'''Chris:''' A-anyway, still, I think you could understand, since you have Aspergers and conservely, with my Autism, that we would pref- we don't really don't wanna be treated as sep- as treated as quote-unquote, "[[Slow-in-the-minds|special]]" because of our mental conditions, we want to be treated as equal individuals.

'''Alec:''' [over Chris] Well, that's certainly true, but how do you think I've been portraying Asperchu as being treated, y'know, different?

'''Chris:''' Try putting yourself in the shoes of your- of your Asperchu. If- if you, I mean, not only would you want to be treated as an individual equal, but-

'''Alec:''' That's how I portray him, he does everything normal people do.

'''Chris:''' But you would not want a name that empathizes the mental condition, you want a name that is more manly-

'''Alec:''' Well y'know, Chris, [[Christopher's name change|we don't choose our names. Our names are given to us.]] Asperchu never chose his name. I mean, think of it this way, the name "Asperchu," if you think of that as a detriment- I don't, but if you interpret the comic that way- think of it as a personal, sort of, character flaw, if you will, that he has to work to overcome. [[Chris and writing|All good characters have character flaws.]]

'''Chris:''' Yeah, I mean-

'''Alec:''' And, and, it's fiction. Sometimes characters don't always live the happiest lives in fiction, but that's part of what makes good fiction.

'''Chris:''' Yeah. Hmm, yeah, but still, think about it, what if your-

'''Chris:''' -parents had named you "Asper?"

'''Alec:''' Uhh...

'''Chris:''' Just to foretell that you had Aspergers, that you would have Aspergers.

'''Alec:''' Well...

'''Chris:''' You would not want that [''[[Speech impediment|stammers]]''] you were being treated- wanting to be treated as an equal in society, you would not want to be called "Asper" because-

'''Alec:''' But Chris-

'''Chris:''' Because that emphasizes the mental condition you have.

'''Alec:''' Okay Chris, that's part of the, again, character flaw, Asperchu has things weighing him down, he has curses and... y'know, not [[Chris the Shaman|literal curses]], but he has detriments to his life that [[Stress|weigh him down]] as a character, and he has to work to overcome those. That's part of what makes a good character. You wouldn't make a character that's just [[Chris-chan Sonichu|all powerful and perfect in every way and has no real problems ever]], would you? That'd be kinda boring. Complex characters have problems that they overcome.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.

'''Alec:''' And it takes, it takes time, too, to overcome a serious problem, I mean, you just renamed him "Mitch," and that wouldn't do it, y'know you can't just go and snap your fingers and just wave the problem away and- 1. That's not realistic, and 2. That doesn't make for good fiction, I mean, all the drama you're building up, y'know, your readers really wouldn't really like that if you just kinda hand-waved it away, don't you think?

'''Chris:''' Alright, yeah, okay, but still-

'''Alec:''' Think about it like this: {{w|Superman}} is named "Superman" because he's super, right? And y'know, Superman is one of the most- [''is cut off'']

'''Chris:''' I mean- as- as-as an individual, within his own world, outside of your control, Asperchu would not want that name, he would be in agreement with me, and would probably want to change his name to something like "Mitch."

'''Alec:''' Ah, but the thing there is, Asperchu is not outside of my control because it's a comic, and I am the creator and, y'know, manager of his comic universe. So, I- as his creator I decide what Asperchu wants and what he doesn't want, and what his personality is like.

'''Chris:''' Hmm.

'''Alec:''' I mean, don't you think?

'''Chris:''' Fairly. I mean, have you ever watched the movie ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}''?

'''Alec:''' Yes I have, it was a good movie.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, yeah, you got the whole {{w|Toontown|toon world}} there, and within that, it coincides with the comic as well, and [[Dimensions|every individual comic, published or unpublished, drawn altogether. And within the world, actually, would reside your Asperchu]], but he would be with his individual thoughts since you gave him an adult attitude within his, within his individual thoughts, he would- he would hate having the name of Asperchu 'cause it emphasizes his mental problem.

'''Alec:''' Umm...

'''Chris:''' His special condition. And he's like, his process of wanting to move from that, and become more acceptable in society, that he would not want a name that would make him feel...

'''Alec:''' Okay...

'''Chris:''' Like as if he's still living it, even after he's fully recovered from it.

'''Alec:''' Okay, but Chris, um, ''Who Framed Roger Rabbit'', that was still a movie, and everything in it was predetermined by the movie writers and director, and there is no alternate cartoon world in reality, I mean, cartoon characters don't actually think and feel things. Okay, here's a question-

'''Chris:''' Well, you obviously are naïve about that, cause you're not fully underst-, you're [[Chris and reality|not understanding that possibility of that universe actually existing]].

'''Alec:''' So you do believe that, um, when an artist creates a cartoon character, that character becomes real? That what you're saying to me?

'''Chris:''' Within that universe, yes.

[''[[Trolls|Raucous laughter]] can be heard in the background'']

'''Alec:''' But the universe is fake. I mean, the ''Asperchu'' universe exists on paper and in my computer. It's just, it's whatever I write it to be. Oh, here's a question for you. Okay, so if you think a character would want, you know, and appropriate name, a good name, not a name that calls them out on something, or sets them back, um... "Sonichu" is the name of a species, correct? I mean, there's Sonichus and Rosechus, those are a species, right?

'''Chris:''' Yeah, but, he was the first one, the first original Sonichu, and she was the original Rosechu-

'''Alec:''' So, wouldn't they want their own-

'''Chris:''' [''indignant''] And-and they each came up with their name, on their own, [''contradicting [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]], where [[Kel]] gives [[Rosechu]] her name''] and they did not need a nickname to go with that.

'''Alec:''' Yeah, but Chris, if you're a human being would you be comfortable just being named "Human"? Or "Man"? I mean, you wouldn't- would you be comfortable if the name "Christian Weston Chandler" didn't exist, and you were just called, "Man," or "Person," or something?

'''Chris:''' Hmm.

'''Alec:''' I mean, y'know ''Homo sapiens''-

'''Chris:''' Yeah but I would [''Chris and Alec talk over each other'']

'''Alec:''' ...''Homo sapiens''.

'''Chris:''' Yes, but still-

'''Alec:''' [[Homos|Homo, homo]].

'''Chris:''' I was not the first human being, and I actually had parents who gave me that name. Sonichu came in, he had to come up with his own name-

'''Alec:''' Well, Sonichu had you who gave him that name didn't he? I mean, within [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]], you, [[Christian Weston Chandler (character)|Christian Weston Chandler]], are Sonichu's father, right? I mean, why wouldn't, why wouldn't your cartoon self give him a name?

'''Chris:''' Uh, that's the cartoon me, versus the real me.

'''Alec:''' Okay, but isn't the cartoon you... Okay, like you said, cartoons are basically real, I mean, so shouldn't the cartoon version of you be just like you? Wouldn't you want to give your child a name? I mean you-

'''Chris:''' I did give him a name, he's the original Sonichu, so therefore, it's as such.

'''Alec:''' But all the other Sonichus also have nicknames, or secondary names, so, so the first Sonichu, I gotta think is feeling kinda left out.

'''Chris:''' Well, he doesn't feel left out. He accepts that, and he's happy with it, just as Rosechu.

'''Alec:''' Okay, well, I don't think Asperchu feels left out because, y'know, he's just my cartoon character. He's my property, y'know, he's my intellectual property, that's what he is. You can't have a person as property, so you know, he's my property, he's not a person, he doesn't feel things, he doesn't think.

'''Chris:''' Okay, well still, what if you could actually could see- what if you could actually could see the child with your girlfriend or wife? Then, would you feel that you own that child even after you have raised him from being a baby, to, let's say, late teenage years where that child would feel more like and individual and independent being?

'''Alec:''' [''clearly frustrated with Chris's nonsense''] Chris, you do understand, that a child, a human being is substantially more that a comic character, right? They're not the same thing, they're not even close. Of course I would name a child, children are real, and children are not our property, I mean if I had a child, I would give it all the love and support it needed, but it is it's own person, he or she, I should say. Where as a comic character is just, it's whatever you draw on paper or in Photoshop. I mean, I draw Asperchu on paper, that's the only place he exists. And then I upload him onto my computer and that's where he exists, and he exists on the web. So I have a character, he grows, but he's never a person.

'''Chris:''' Hmm. Well anyway, this is confusing to think about. Okay- well- yeah...

'''Alec:''' We can agree to disagree.

'''Chris:''' Okay, what if As- what if the shoe was on the other foot- what if Asperchu created you?

'''Alec:''' Well then, I'd be a comic character, myself, and I wouldn't have any thoughts and feelings, so that's a moot point.

'''Chris:''' You think that comic character wouldn't have its own thoughts and feelings?

'''Alec:''' NO!

'''Chris:''' You are [[naïve]].

'''Alec:''' Chris, you have told me that you think a comic character is fundamentally as much of a person as a real human being, that is the naïve thought.

'''Chris:''' No, you are-

'''Alec:''' I'm a writer, I'm like the [[god]] of the Asperchu world. I decide what goes on in Asperchu's world, I decide, who and what Asperchu is and what he thinks and feels, if anything, which he doesn't, because he's still just a character on paper, y'know, when I put the pen down, Asperchu stops being there. Nothing exists in Asperchu's world that I haven't drawn.

'''Chris:''' [''sighs''] Boy, you are-

'''Alec:''' And it's naïve to think that there's anything more.

'''Chris:''' [''sighs'']

'''Alec:''' You know, I'm, uh- I think we should agree to disagree on this point.

'''Chris:''' Alright.

'''Alec:''' Um, because we have our own thoughts on that. Um, I kinda ask you about- I'm actually getting some letters about Sonichu, about why you're not updating daily, and I was kinda curious about that.

'''Chris:''' I- for your information, I am updating daily. I draw two pages- I draw and color my two pages a day. I can't help if I don't have access to my computer or if I can't get to it right away, besides which, my [[biological clock]] has been fickle on me and it's making me go- making fall asleep earlier.

'''Alec:''' Well, I understand-

'''Chris:''' [''talks over Alec''] And it's difficult to rearrange my schedule, and get back in- in a sync-synchronized routine like I would be.

'''Alec:''' Maybe you could get an alarm clock. You know, I- I'm just kinda curious, like, I know it takes, what, like an hour to do each page, about what you spend, I would kinda guess. Um, I'm just kinda confused why you'd spend an hour to draw a page, but not take that extra sixty seconds to upload it. I think consistency is important thing-

'''Chris:''' But, wait, it could take- it takes more than sixty seconds to scan it in Photoshop, then upload it. It would probably take like half an hour for all that work.

'''Alec:''' I didn't know you did Photoshop work with your pages. What do you, what do you use Photoshop for, if I may ask? I'm just kinda curious. I thought you just-

'''Chris:''' T-t-to change it from more hand-written text, to more legible typed text.

'''Alec:''' Y'know, If I remember right, I think kinda one of the criticisms you had about ''Asperchu'' was that it was not completely hand-drawn original. Because I do use Photoshop in part of my creative process, but it sounds like you do kind of the same thing. Which is, you know, that's fine. Digital, digital media is where our world is going, but I thought- see I thought you drew it all on paper and uploaded it.

'''Chris:''' I did draw it all on paper. The only part I edit in Photoshop is the text; what you reeead.

'''Alec:''' 'Kay, I thought so. Well, it just seems a little hypocritical, but you do use Photoshop in the creative process, but you criticized me for it. Don't you think?

'''Chris:''' No, actually, what I thought, is that you skip the hand-drawing and you draw everything on your Photoshop with your computer mouse.

'''Alec:''' Well I don't- here's what I do. I do sometimes draw the pages on paper, um, I'm kinda trying to shy away from that because, our society wastes so much paper, so I'm trying to be a little more socially responsible. But what I do, I use a {{w|Graphics tablet|tablet}}, and I draw on that, and that's basically the same thing as pen and paper, it's, uh, what I draw goes directly on the computer screen. So I don't use a mouse.

'''Chris:''' Hmm.

'''Alec:''' Yeah, it's the same thing-

'''Chris:''' Okay, but still, it looks crappy compared to mine. Even [[Barb|my mother]] agrees.

'''Alec:''' Oh, hey, hey, hey, c'mon that's a little insulting Chris, what do you mean, "crappy"? I mean, my mother says my comic is the most beautiful comic she's ever seen too but, I kind of think that's because she's a supportive mother. You know, mothers are supposed to support their children in their endeavors. And I have, y'know, got 20,000 fans now that love it too. None of them are my mother. My mother doesn't actually use a computer, I just show her the print-outs. [''silence''] Y'know, I get complimented on my art all the time.

'''Chris:''' Hmm.

'''Alec:''' I mean, it's okay to disagree. I just, I'm curious why you think it's crappy?

'''Chris:''' Because it's computer drawn. It's not originally hand-drawn.

'''Alec:''' I just told you, it is hand-drawn. It's hand-drawn on a tablet. What do you mean, it's not an "original hand-drawn?"

'''Chris:''' It don't have the old-fashioned original pencil or pen markings, that's what I have.

'''Alec:''' So, because I don't have smudge-marks on my paper, is that's what you mean? That was another reason I went with the tablet, because I got a lot of smudge-marks on my paper when I was doing math and I had to spend extra time erasing it. Y'know is- okay, by comparison, could I say that our [[Son-Chu|cars]] are not true original transportation because people should be using old-fashioned horses? You use Photoshop for lettering and effects. We're one in the same here, Chris.

'''Chris:''' [''sigh'']

'''Alec:''' And-and again, I just don't see why, the exact method I use to draw determines the skill of my art. Weren't you um, I remember recently, didn't you put, like, a live picture of yourself in your comic for some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' theme? I mean, you didn't draw that part in, did you?<ref>A reference to "[[Revive Zordon]]" from [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]</ref>

'''Chris:''' I-I-It at least allows me, to put myself in my work. See, a bigger difference between drawing with a tablet or mouse versus hand-drawn is that you see more personality with the orig- with the pen-marking, and color—and marker coloring versus what's... what's digitally entered-

'''Alec:''' Well, if you feel that way. If you feel that way, I respect your opinion, but, I mean, y'know, 20,000 fans can't be wrong, and not a single one of them have ever said anything.

'''Chris:''' Okay well-okay well, l-let me give you a better example on that. Okay, say you got, uh, two letters, two exact same letters from a person, from the same person. One hand-written, and one computer typed and printed, which one would you think would have more personality, or would appeal to you better?

'''Alec:''' I honestly don't remember the last time anyone wrote me a hand-written letter. I don't even remember the last time I wrote a hand-written letter, I type everything, every kind of- I mean, typing looks more professional.

'''Chris:''' Professional, yes, but-

'''Alec:''' I mean, hand-written wouldn't get you a job, or anything.

[[Image:MoarCharacter.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction.]]
'''Chris:''' At least I have had all the practice of hand-writing, and that- there's more character, more personality put into it, in hand-writing versus what you would just see, everyday in a monosynchronic [''?''] sense.

'''Alec:''' Well, you know why you see it everyday, everywhere, Chris? You see it everywhere, because it works. Because that's what people prefer.

'''Chris:''' [Sigh]

'''Alec:''' I think we're getting kinda off-topic, I mean I just- I kinda wanna go back to, um, I understand it can be difficult to get to your computer and upload things, you know in a timely fashion, sometimes, you're not at your computer, things like that, but, I mean, Sonichu's your franchise, a lot of fans I know are getting kind of, y'know, fed up that you don't have pages uploaded everyday. I mean, Sonichu is your, that's your franchise, right? I just, I dunno, I mean, I got a lot of stuff going on in my day too, but I make sure to get at least one or two pages uploaded everyday. Which has been more difficult since my school term started, 'cause I'm in full time school, and, y'know, I work still, I'm still working at the station but... that's just a recommendation, but... again, I know it's difficult, but I recommend that you try. That's all I'm saying.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, well, I am drawing- I have been drawing the pages, and like I said, I cannot help it if I can't upload on some days, but at least I do upload them in the bulk on when I can upload.

'''Alec:''' You know, for a while, for a couple months, you were uploading most everyday weren't you? I mean, has something, has something, has your schedule gotten busier recently or something?

'''Chris:''' I've been [[Biological clock|falling asleep earlier]]. And with that, it's hard- and with that it's harder for me to readjust my schedule.

'''Alec:''' You know Chris, if I fell asleep on my job, I'd probably lose my job. I mean, Sonichu is supposed to be your big franchise, right? I mean... if fell asleep while drawing Asperchu and I started missing days, I would buy myself and alarm clock. Or I would upload them earlier, before I knew I was gonna get tired, or whatever.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.

'''Alec:''' It's just-

'''Chris:''' Anyway, anyway I haven't been able to get my schedule around and I just haven't been able to get it in sync yet.

'''Alec:''' What's uh... if I may ask, what's... has something been going on that's been throwing your schedule for a loop? I mean, you-you haven't made videos in the past couple of days but you know prior to that, you were making videos fairly frequently, mostly attacking me.

'''Chris:''' Originally did- originally when I did the videos it was not necessarily on a daily basis, that's not like, journal, a video is not like a journal to me.

'''Alec:''' Well but, you know, if you spend five, ten, fifteen minutes making a video, that's time you could be uploading a comic. But instead you make videos attacking me.

'''Chris:''' [''sigh''] Pl-plus, the battery power on my digital camera is fickle.

'''Alec:''' What does your digital camera have to do with uploading pages? I'm saying you shouldn't be using the camera, you shouldn't be making videos. You know why I haven't made any videos, Chris? It's 'cause I don't have time, I'm uploading pages that and- that and I don't wanna-

'''Alec:''' -make [[death threats]] to people on the [[Internet]], that's not a... I mean, you know- you know you really hurt my feelings when you started doing those Chris, because, like I said you started as my inspiration and a couple months later you became my [[troll]].

'''Chris:''' [''sigh'']

'''Alec:''' I know you have trolls, you know, it sucks.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.

'''Alec:''' It really sucks to have people attacking you like that, but you became my troll.

'''Chris:''' Alright well... you know, how 'bout you just tell Mao that I... if he just... I'll leave y'all alone, let y'all do your thang... y'all take your ads off my website.

'''Alec:''' That's just not a... that's not a sound business move for me, Chris. Those ads are bringing in a lot of viewers.

'''Chris:''' [''sigh''] So, put 'em on another website.

'''Alec:''' Well, what if that website tells me that, y'know, they don't want them there, then should I move to another website, and then another, and then another... Mao's job is to bring in fans for me, that's what he's doing and he's doing it well, and that's why I keep him-

'''Chris:''' Well, Mao- Mao never asked me before he could- before he put anything up there or before he paid off [[Jack Thaddeus]].

'''Alec:''' Well, he doesn't have to, that's the way ads work. You buy adspace that's publicly available. Advertising is not under your control.

'''Chris:''' Ye-yeah- But I was- but I was never there to witness that monetary transaction, I was never there for that quote-unquote "agreement."

'''Alec:''' You don't own [[CWCipedia|the site]], Chris.

'''Chris:''' What?

'''Alec:''' You don't own that site. Right? I mean, the money from the ads go to keep the site up, that's my understanding.

'''Chris:''' [''sighs''] Actually, you're wrong, you see, Mao ga-put- gave that to €2,000 directly to Jack Thaddeus. actually put that €2,000 into the CWCipedia funds, so. therefore, Mao never saw his money in his money in the CWCipedia funds, they just went straight to Jack.

'''Alec:''' Um, I'm not really sure. I've never spoken to Jack, I don't know anything about what he and Mao talked about, y'know I'd kinda like to help you out, honestly I would, but I'm still a little... I'm a little miffed that um... even after we had a pretty good talk last time, but you still kept going with this whole "[[Mitch]]" business. I mean, you took my character, and altered him. You say, you say that I didn't get permission to use Sonichu, but you didn't get permission to use Asperchu either.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, well...

'''Alec:''' Or [[Simonchu]]! I-I-I almost forgot to mention that, Evan wanted me to talk to you about that, about using Simonchu. Y'know, Simonchu was his creation and you used that without permission. And he asked you several times, not- to get rid of Simonchu and [[Simonla]], or whatever her female form is. But-

'''Chris:''' Yeah, but actually, Simonla was never very inspired by Simonchu... I took an original [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]], I changed her to a ground color, gave her the complexion, added an armadillo shell, and then a few drills in appropriate faces- places.

'''Alec:''' So kind of how I took a [[Sonic]], and make him yellow, and gave him a goatee and glasses, and a Buddha belly, and thus was born Asperchu. And, it was- you thought it was a parody, but it just happened to be... that kinda what you're going with, for there? I mean, why didn't you just say that to Evan in the first place, 'cause he has been e-mailing you for a long time.

'''Chris:''' I-I told him- I responded- I told him that in response- in response to why those messages in the mailbag, but apparently, he had not read that.

'''Alec:''' Okay, uhm... let's see, I'm looking at the Simonla at your CWCipedia here, um, you say that... I'll just read what it says here: About on or before August 26, [[2008]], I received an e-mail from Evan George, uhh... submitting his Sonichu Fan Art to me, then later submitted his idea for Simonchu, it did not strike as good at first but for a few months, I wanted to create a ground type, um... so from Simonchu, I created Simonla Rosechu.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Simonla_Rosechu]</ref> That's on the Simonla article for your CWCipedia. I mean that's, smoking gun, Chris, that's proof, that you used Simonchu as a base.

'''Chris:''' [''groans'']

'''Alec:''' I'm... y'know I'm not trying to attack you with this but I really think this is evidence, that you should get rid of Simonchu and Simonla, write 'em out. 'Cause the facts are right there Chris.

'''Chris:''' Well, actually it was not like that, I typed it in because Evan was badgering me as such, and it just stuck in my head, and pretty much stuck... when I typed it in originally.

'''Alec:''' Why would that just stick in your head, why would that happen? Why would it stick in your head, unless it's true?

'''Chris:''' [''trying to think of an excuse''] I put it in there to make a [[parody|mockery]] out of him!

'''Alec:''' Well, then you kind of... kind of lied about it to people, didn't you? I mean, 'cause everyone else thinks that's the [[Honest Content|honest truth]].

'''Chris:''' Well, I can stick- well I can change that and fix it.

'''Alec:''' Doesn't matter, you already established it. I mean, when it comes to, like, [[copyright]], and that sort of thing, Chris, I mean, the one thing that matters more that anything else is documentation, and history. And all of your documentation shows that you used Simonchu as inspiration. You acknowledge legal liability here. Whether it was a joke or not, you wrote it like it was real. And Evan's been pester-

'''Chris:''' [''big sigh'']

'''Alec:''' ...ing me to talk to you, 'cause apparently you're ignoring his e-mails... although you ignore my e-mails too. I mean, like I said, it was a pain just to get a hold of you. I mean, for a guy who has so much to say to me, you are hard to get a hold of.

'''Chris:''' Hmm.

'''Alec:''' I mean, you, you, I'm just I wanna let you know, that you do need to comply with Evan's demands, 'cause he's talking about litigation, and that if he wants to go get a lawyer over this. He said that he'd, that he'd back off if you acknowledge, in the comic and write Simonchu and Simonla out, and y'know, say that they will be done and gone forever. He has the copyright for Simonchu. I mean, would you be willing to do that? Write 'em out?

'''Chris:''' I'll con- I'll think about it.

'''Alec:''' Okay, well don't think too long. I mean, this is a serious issue.

'''Chris:''' [Sigh]

'''Alec:''' I'm just- I'm just trying to give you advice, Chris.

'''Chris:''' Yeah-

'''Alec:''' I don't wanna see litigation come out of this.

'''Chris:''' Hmm... anyway I'm feeling tired right now.

'''Alec:''' Okay well, maybe I'll let you go, um... you have a good night, Chris.

'''Chris:''' Alright, goodnight.

'''Alec:''' Goodnight.

{{succession|label=[[Alec Benson Leary calls]]|prevlink=[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1|Chris and Alec Call 1]]|nextlink=[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3|Chris and Alec Call 3]]|}}

=Sources=
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=External Links=
* [http://www.mediafire.com/?57fb2b3pkmd8xmw Audio download]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXvUS4XA-2s The Call on Youtube, part 1] Working link as of the 25th January 2022
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4uaGUvLnmg The Call on Youtube, part 2] Working link as of the 25th January 2022
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Ben Saint

2022-01-23T11:18:40Z

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{{quote|my dream is to somehow get [Chris] to draw phantom horn or better yet NLACakaNM [...] I HAVE to ignite the Slime [[Saga]]|Ben, attempting to [[Enablers|enable]] his way into Chris's orbit.<ref name=BenDiscordComments>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5355713</ref>}}

{{quote|@ItsAllSoUgly, YOU, most of all, Do Not Need the damn Slime. You Are Better than that.|Chris, to Ben.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1183215112305479680</ref>}}

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|label1 = Name
|data1 = Benjamin H. Chmielinski<ref>https://archive.md/4nvvD</ref>
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = The Cop Killer ItsAllSoUgly Phantom Horn
|label3 = Date of Birth
|data3 = 7 April 1988 (age {{age|1988|4|7}})
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|data4 = Male
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|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
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|data11 = Engineer (Former) Comic Artist YouTuber
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[[File:Ibachandlercroppedsmaller.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Ben Saint's [[2016]] commission detailing [[Liquid Chris]]'s fate.]]
'''Ben Saint''' is a webcomic artist, [[troll]] and self-proclaimed '[[Dimension]]al [[Chris and religion#Doctrines of CWCianity|Prophet]] of C-197 and Hierophant to NLACakaNM'.<ref name=ween>[http://archive.fo/oeyYy#selection-129.1-129.29 Saint's Twitter, archived 8 October 2019]</ref> Though he had been interested in Chris for years, lecturing for two hours on ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' in [[2016]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFOIauPQ5XI&t ''Sonichu 101: A CWC Lecture''</ref> and [[2020]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSpXtGX3CI4&t ''Sonichu 102: Advanced Christory''</ref> and [[Chris and business|commissioning]] art detailing [[Liquid Chris]]'s fate in the [[Reality Cartoon|comic world]],<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid_Chris#In_the_comic</ref> he is most known for [[weening|exploiting]] Chris and his Internet infamy in order to boost views of his own comic and solicit [[Chris and money|thousands of dollars in donations]] in [[October 2019]].<ref name=financhu>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5460456 Saint appeals to followers to donate $13,000 to save his fictional characters from his plot LARPing, 14 October 2019]</ref> He would provoke him by inserting [[Night Star]], Chris's ''[[My Little Pony]]'' fan character, into his comics and role-playing with him to get him invested in the comic's plot.<ref name=BenDiscordComments></ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-reddit-chris-roleplaying-as-magi-chan-megathread.59768/post-5193650</ref> Unlike [[Alec Benson Leary]] before him, Ben Saint's heavy-handed approach to [[parody]] had failed to gain [[Laughs Under Lucricities]] and acclaim from onlookers. In time, he gave up inciting Chris and gained his approval, and their interactions became unremarkable by the end of [[November 2019]].

==Chris usurps Ben's comic==
{{see also|Sonichu Special 7}}

{{quote|His strips have some catching up to do to get to this point|Chris, on his unauthorized version of events based on Ben's comic<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1179253019847860226</ref>}}

[[File:Chris mad at Discord bot.png|Chris tries to roleplay with Endless War, a Discord bot, which kills his character. Chris retcons the loss in his version of Ben's comic.|thumb|200px]]

Ben began working on a comic, which mostly serves to promote the Discord server/game ''Endless War'', which he runs. In the comic, [[Night Star]] banishes two [[My Little Pony]] characters, Strawberry Milk and Phantom Horn, to NLACakaNM, the land of the game. The latter character is a clear parody of Christorians, so obviously that even Chris notices it. Chris took a near immediate interest in the comics, as early as 16 September. Ben and Chris presumably opened correspondence soon after. As the narrative continued, however, Chris became more displeased with the directions it took. Meanwhile Chris also tried to play ''Endless War'', a game managed by a bot on Ben's Discord server, but was killed and became frustrated. Seeing an opportunity, Saint devoted himself to more deliberate [[weening|attacks]] against Chris, creating a section on his Discord server for that specific purpose.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5420279 Saint prepares 'to declare war' against Chris, 4 October 2019]</ref>

This came to a head on 1 October 2019, when Chris began releasing [[Sonichu Special 7]], his own drawings depicting what he wanted to happen in Ben's comic lore. Chris, role-playing as Magi-Chan, then sent Ben a DM both announcing/commanding that Ben make the comic as Chris willed, as well as demanding Ben provide Chris with $300.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#DM'ing Ben Saint to demand $300]]</ref> Later, Chris would also return to the server and announce that he had revived himself with his [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|goddess powers]] and that the bot's game was over, as Chris's comic canon had deemed it so. Unlike [[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]], where the fancomic author in question approved of Chris using her work, Ben is much more resistant to Chris influencing the work, creating two concurrent and battling canons. In response to this, Ben accused Chris of committing [[A-logging|genocide]] in his revisions, depicting his own characters being injured and [[Chris and death|killed]] by Chris's cleansing rains. Chris initially denied the charges, affirming that Ben's characters would just become normal humans.<ref>[[:File:ChrisGenocide.jpeg]]</ref> Seeking to contrive an incident, Saint stated on Discord that [[CWCville]] had declared war on his own fictional city, giving a [[Chris and death|death]] toll of about 70,000.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/slime9-png.960265/ Saint's incendiary Discord announcement, 5 October 2019]</ref> Chris would thus concede that there had been casualties, yet that 99% of the population of Arizona (where this fictional city was placed) had survived.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191005234550/http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/arizona-population/ The population of Arizona in 2019 was approximately 7,000,000.]</ref> He would regard this loss of fictional life trivial.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863 Chris dismisses Ben, 4 October 2019]</ref> A week later, Chris would justify his overriding Ben's description of his own fictional universe by his superior [[PsychicPowers|psychic powers]] and ability to see into alternate [[dimensions]].<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5459801 Chris justifies his canon wars by goddesshood, 13 October 2019]</ref>

==Decline==
[[File:Chris annoyed at Ben Saint.png|thumb|250px|An annoyed Chris tells Ben to stop harping on the genocide, perturbed to the point he slipped up in his role-playing and ended the message writing as Magi-Chan instead of himself.]]
Attempts to [[troll|provoke]] Chris fell into [[autism|repetitive, stereotypical social patterns]] in mid-October 2019, soon after they began, and would remain so for the rest of the affair. Saint would keep drawing his characters massacred by the soda rain and beg Chris to stop, while Chris would assert that he already had,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5456252 Chris tells a random Saint supporter that his 'cleansing rains' have stopped, 12 October 2019]</ref> and that any deaths already inflicted were [[Chris and remorse|for the greater good]]. Variety was occasionally introduced as Chris sometimes accidentally wrote his replies as [[Magi-Chan]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863</ref> When Saint depicted his dead characters on a special story arc in hell,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5446854 Chris complains about dead characters, 10 October 2019]|</ref> or otherwise [[Sonichu 4|diverged his plot]], Chris would [[Chris and hypocrisy|demand Saint return to drawing his comic]] instead of pursuing his role-playing.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5457455 Chris insists Ben get back to work, 14 October 2019]</ref>

Like clockwork, [[white knights]] and other enablers came in to defend Chris's actions and inject their own strain of [[random-access humor|nonsense]] into the mix, nominally to help Chris along. [[Jacob Sockness]] offered on 17 October to summon Jakoba, a war god of his own invention, to demand even more reparations from Saint, yet Chris refused, instead accepting the [[Multidimensional White Knights]]' enlisting [[wikipedia:Ed Bighead|Ed Bighead]], who was supposed to have became the king of Babylon in [[C-197]] and was rallying an army to defend Chris from the slime.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5475019 White knights present bids for Chris, 17 October 2019]</ref> Ben eventually relented, at least in part: he revived, to Chris's approval, his characters that he had killed off earlier that month, using the same ''!revive'' command from his Discord server that Chris had used to declare himself resurrected.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5467553 Saint revives his characters and Chris joins the Yang Gang, 16 October 2019]</ref>

Further interactions with Ben, on Twitter as well as Discord, long continued to dispute whether or not Chris had committed fictional genocide. Accusations of ''hatred'' were common on both sides.<ref name=financhu /> Ben would try to manipulate Chris's version of events by stating his fictional city was rained upon several time, while Chris would resist such changes to his version of events being inserted. Saint's publicity stunt was however stunted by Chris's shifting [[autism|interests]], as he devoted more attention to his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card line]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] returned for a second round of weening after a fortnight's delay. On 19 October, Chris asserted that he had [[Chris and religion|divine mandate]] from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] to supersede Ben's decisions about his comic.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5483895 Ben and Chris continue to argue about genocide, 19 October 2019]</ref>

==Normalisation of relations==
{{main|Ben Saint - Chatting with Chris-Chan}}

Even when exciting him, Saint would sometimes [[enabler|endorse]] Chris's delusional beliefs: he would notably respond with [[Sonic Boom|fiery protests]] whenever somebody else refused to use Chris's [[tomgirl]] pronouns.<ref name=ween />. By [[November 2019]], interactions between Ben Saint and Chris became rarer, yet the atmosphere between them was friendlier than before.<ref>[http://archive.ph/mUhnC#selection-4775.9-4775.13 Archive of Chris's Twitter profile from November 2019, prepared 6 December 2019]</ref> Shifting his attention from ''[[Sonichu 14]]'' to making [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|playing cards]] instead, Chris casually dashed Saint's hope to be included in the ''Sonichu'' canon beside such illustrious figures as [[Bundychu|Ted Bundy]] before him. On 10 November 2019, their rivalry had come to an official end as Chris accepted an invitation to appear on Ben's live stream, where he was interviewed for over an hour. Genocide accusations faded away as Saint continued, with Chris's approval, to use [[Night Star]] and [[Chris Chan Sonichu]] in his comics beside his other characters. Saint would also keep out of the confused web surrounding [[Jacob Sockness]], [[MKRNightVee]] and others who sought positions of power over Chris about the same time. After several months of benign quiet, Ben Saint returned on 29 January 2020, rallying support to hold a [[conventions|convention]] in Virginia at a yet undisclosed time; Chris enthusiastically sanctioned this fundraiser.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5937766 Saint returns], 29 January 2020</ref> Two months later, on 24 [[March 2020]], Chris began supporting Saint on [[Patreon]]:<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6195899 Patreon support begins], 24 Mrch 2020</ref> he pays five dollars monthly, which is not enough to access all of his new comics.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6196728 Chris complains he cannot access ''Slime and Punishment''], 25 March 2020</ref>

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:chriswithbensaint.png|Ben Saint with Chris at Bronycon 2019.
Image:SlimeSaga.png|Ben dreams of influencing Chris and inviting Chris through Twitter DMs to jumpstart the slime saga.
Image:Chrissaysitscanon.PNG|Chris declares the events of Ben's comic to be canon to Sonichu.
File:NoelEdBighead.png|thumb|This is what the MWK and Chris actually believe.
File:HorsefamousMeetssonichufamous.jpg|[[TSSSF]] card involving Ben's characters.
File:COWABUNGA!!!!.png|Failures in a half-shell. Saint with Hirtes, A-Log and Kengle
</gallery></center>

==Fan videos==
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==References==
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Ben Saint

2021-09-03T02:51:57Z

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{{quote|my dream is to somehow get [Chris] to draw phantom horn or better yet NLACakaNM [...] I HAVE to ignite the Slime [[Saga]]|Ben, attempting to [[Enablers|enable]] his way into Chris's orbit.<ref name=BenDiscordComments>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5355713</ref>}}

{{quote|@ItsAllSoUgly, YOU, most of all, Do Not Need the damn Slime. You Are Better than that.|Chris, to Ben.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1183215112305479680</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Ben Saint
| image = [[File:Vapesquaresm.png|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Benjamin H. Chmielinski<ref>https://archive.md/4nvvD</ref>
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = The Cop Killer ItsAllSoUgly Phantom Horn
|label3 = Date of Birth
|data3 = 7 April 1988 (age {{age|1988|4|7}})
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|data6 = White
|label11 = Occupations
|data11 = Engineer (Former) Comic Artist YouTuber
}}
[[File:Ibachandlercroppedsmaller.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Ben Saint's [[2016]] commission detailing [[Liquid Chris]]'s fate.]]
'''Ben Saint''' is a webcomic artist, [[troll]] and self-proclaimed '[[Dimension]]al [[Chris and religion#Doctrines of CWCianity|Prophet]] of C-197 and Hierophant to NLACakaNM'.<ref name=ween>[http://archive.fo/oeyYy#selection-129.1-129.29 Saint's Twitter, archived 8 October 2019]</ref> Though he had been interested in Chris for years, lecturing for two hours on ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' in [[2016]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFOIauPQ5XI&t ''Sonichu 101: A CWC Lecture''</ref> and [[Chris and business|commissioning]] art detailing [[Liquid Chris]]'s fate in the [[Reality Cartoon|comic world]],<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid_Chris#In_the_comic</ref> he is most known for [[weening|exploiting]] Chris and his Internet infamy in order to boost views of his own comic and solicit [[Chris and money|thousands of dollars in donations]] in [[October 2019]].<ref name=financhu>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5460456 Saint appeals to followers to donate $13,000 to save his fictional characters from his plot LARPing, 14 October 2019]</ref> He would provoke him by inserting [[Night Star]], Chris's ''[[My Little Pony]]'' fan character, into his comics and role-playing with him to get him invested in the comic's plot.<ref name=BenDiscordComments></ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-reddit-chris-roleplaying-as-magi-chan-megathread.59768/post-5193650</ref> Unlike [[Alec Benson Leary]] before him, Ben Saint's heavy-handed approach to [[parody]] had failed to gain [[Laughs Under Lucricities]] and acclaim from onlookers. In time, he gave up inciting Chris and gained his approval, and their interactions became unremarkable by the end of [[November 2019]].

==Chris usurps Ben's comic==
{{see also|Sonichu Special 7}}

{{quote|His strips have some catching up to do to get to this point|Chris, on his unauthorized version of events based on Ben's comic<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1179253019847860226</ref>}}

[[File:Chris mad at Discord bot.png|Chris tries to roleplay with Endless War, a Discord bot, which kills his character. Chris retcons the loss in his version of Ben's comic.|thumb|200px]]

Ben began working on a comic, which mostly serves to promote the Discord server/game ''Endless War'', which he runs. In the comic, [[Night Star]] banishes two [[My Little Pony]] characters, Strawberry Milk and Phantom Horn, to NLACakaNM, the land of the game. The latter character is a clear parody of Christorians, so obviously that even Chris notices it. Chris took a near immediate interest in the comics, as early as 16 September. Ben and Chris presumably opened correspondence soon after. As the narrative continued, however, Chris became more displeased with the directions it took. Meanwhile Chris also tried to play ''Endless War'', a game managed by a bot on Ben's Discord server, but was killed and became frustrated. Seeing an opportunity, Saint devoted himself to more deliberate [[weening|attacks]] against Chris, creating a section on his Discord server for that specific purpose.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5420279 Saint prepares 'to declare war' against Chris, 4 October 2019]</ref>

This came to a head on 1 October 2019, when Chris began releasing [[Sonichu Special 7]], his own drawings depicting what he wanted to happen in Ben's comic lore. Chris, role-playing as Magi-Chan, then sent Ben a DM both announcing/commanding that Ben make the comic as Chris willed, as well as demanding Ben provide Chris with $300.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#DM'ing Ben Saint to demand $300]]</ref> Later, Chris would also return to the server and announce that he had revived himself with his [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|goddess powers]] and that the bot's game was over, as Chris's comic canon had deemed it so. Unlike [[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]], where the fancomic author in question approved of Chris using her work, Ben is much more resistant to Chris influencing the work, creating two concurrent and battling canons. In response to this, Ben accused Chris of committing [[A-logging|genocide]] in his revisions, depicting his own characters being injured and [[Chris and death|killed]] by Chris's cleansing rains. Chris initially denied the charges, affirming that Ben's characters would just become normal humans.<ref>[[:File:ChrisGenocide.jpeg]]</ref> Seeking to contrive an incident, Saint stated on Discord that [[CWCville]] had declared war on his own fictional city, giving a [[Chris and death|death]] toll of about 70,000.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/slime9-png.960265/ Saint's incendiary Discord announcement, 5 October 2019]</ref> Chris would thus concede that there had been casualties, yet that 99% of the population of Arizona (where this fictional city was placed) had survived.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191005234550/http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/arizona-population/ The population of Arizona in 2019 was approximately 7,000,000.]</ref> He would regard this loss of fictional life trivial.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863 Chris dismisses Ben, 4 October 2019]</ref> A week later, Chris would justify his overriding Ben's description of his own fictional universe by his superior [[PsychicPowers|psychic powers]] and ability to see into alternate [[dimensions]].<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5459801 Chris justifies his canon wars by goddesshood, 13 October 2019]</ref>

==Decline==
[[File:Chris annoyed at Ben Saint.png|thumb|250px|An annoyed Chris tells Ben to stop harping on the genocide, perturbed to the point he slipped up in his role-playing and ended the message writing as Magi-Chan instead of himself.]]
Attempts to [[troll|provoke]] Chris fell into [[autism|repetitive, stereotypical social patterns]] in mid-October 2019, soon after they began, and would remain so for the rest of the affair. Saint would keep drawing his characters massacred by the soda rain and beg Chris to stop, while Chris would assert that he already had,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5456252 Chris tells a random Saint supporter that his 'cleansing rains' have stopped, 12 October 2019]</ref> and that any deaths already inflicted were [[Chris and remorse|for the greater good]]. Variety was occasionally introduced as Chris sometimes accidentally wrote his replies as [[Magi-Chan]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863</ref> When Saint depicted his dead characters on a special story arc in hell,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5446854 Chris complains about dead characters, 10 October 2019]|</ref> or otherwise [[Sonichu 4|diverged his plot]], Chris would [[Chris and hypocrisy|demand Saint return to drawing his comic]] instead of pursuing his role-playing.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5457455 Chris insists Ben get back to work, 14 October 2019]</ref>

Like clockwork, [[white knights]] and other enablers came in to defend Chris's actions and inject their own strain of [[random-access humor|nonsense]] into the mix, nominally to help Chris along. [[Jacob Sockness]] offered on 17 October to summon Jakoba, a war god of his own invention, to demand even more reparations from Saint, yet Chris refused, instead accepting the [[Multidimensional White Knights]]' enlisting [[wikipedia:Ed Bighead|Ed Bighead]], who was supposed to have became the king of Babylon in [[C-197]] and was rallying an army to defend Chris from the slime.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5475019 White knights present bids for Chris, 17 October 2019]</ref> Ben eventually relented, at least in part: he revived, to Chris's approval, his characters that he had killed off earlier that month, using the same ''!revive'' command from his Discord server that Chris had used to declare himself resurrected.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5467553 Saint revives his characters and Chris joins the Yang Gang, 16 October 2019]</ref>

Further interactions with Ben, on Twitter as well as Discord, long continued to dispute whether or not Chris had committed fictional genocide. Accusations of ''hatred'' were common on both sides.<ref name=financhu /> Ben would try to manipulate Chris's version of events by stating his fictional city was rained upon several time, while Chris would resist such changes to his version of events being inserted. Saint's publicity stunt was however stunted by Chris's shifting [[autism|interests]], as he devoted more attention to his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card line]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] returned for a second round of weening after a fortnight's delay. On 19 October, Chris asserted that he had [[Chris and religion|divine mandate]] from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] to supersede Ben's decisions about his comic.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5483895 Ben and Chris continue to argue about genocide, 19 October 2019]</ref>

==Normalisation of relations==
{{main|Ben Saint - Chatting with Chris-Chan}}

Even when exciting him, Saint would sometimes [[enabler|endorse]] Chris's delusional beliefs: he would notably respond with [[Sonic Boom|fiery protests]] whenever somebody else refused to use Chris's [[tomgirl]] pronouns.<ref name=ween />. By [[November 2019]], interactions between Ben Saint and Chris became rarer, yet the atmosphere between them was friendlier than before.<ref>[http://archive.ph/mUhnC#selection-4775.9-4775.13 Archive of Chris's Twitter profile from November 2019, prepared 6 December 2019]</ref> Shifting his attention from ''[[Sonichu 14]]'' to making [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|playing cards]] instead, Chris casually dashed Saint's hope to be included in the ''Sonichu'' canon beside such illustrious figures as [[Bundychu|Ted Bundy]] before him. On 10 November 2019, their rivalry had come to an official end as Chris accepted an invitation to appear on Ben's live stream, where he was interviewed for over an hour. Genocide accusations faded away as Saint continued, with Chris's approval, to use [[Night Star]] and [[Chris Chan Sonichu]] in his comics beside his other characters. Saint would also keep out of the confused web surrounding [[Jacob Sockness]], [[MKRNightVee]] and others who sought positions of power over Chris about the same time. After several months of benign quiet, Ben Saint returned on 29 January 2020, rallying support to hold a [[conventions|convention]] in Virginia at a yet undisclosed time; Chris enthusiastically sanctioned this fundraiser.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5937766 Saint returns], 29 January 2020</ref> Two months later, on 24 [[March 2020]], Chris began supporting Saint on [[Patreon]]:<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6195899 Patreon support begins], 24 Mrch 2020</ref> he pays five dollars monthly, which is not enough to access all of his new comics.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6196728 Chris complains he cannot access ''Slime and Punishment''], 25 March 2020</ref>

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:chriswithbensaint.png|Ben Saint with Chris at Bronycon 2019.
Image:SlimeSaga.png|Ben dreams of influencing Chris and inviting Chris through Twitter DMs to jumpstart the slime saga.
Image:Chrissaysitscanon.PNG|Chris declares the events of Ben's comic to be canon to Sonichu.
File:NoelEdBighead.png|thumb|This is what the MWK and Chris actually believe.
File:HorsefamousMeetssonichufamous.jpg|[[TSSSF]] card involving Ben's characters.
File:COWABUNGA!!!!.png|Failures in a half-shell. Saint with others afflicted with the Holy Tetrad
</gallery></center>

==Fan videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Ben Saint talking about the NightStar Comic
| video = {{#ev:youtube|2OL2rMXMp1k}}
| stardate =
| maker = Ben Saint
| subject =
| type =
| info = }}

==References==
<references/>

{{Fantasies}}
{{Sonichu}}
{{Trolls}}

Ben Saint

2021-09-03T02:50:10Z

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{{quote|my dream is to somehow get [Chris] to draw phantom horn or better yet NLACakaNM [...] I HAVE to ignite the Slime [[Saga]]|Ben, attempting to [[Enablers|enable]] his way into Chris's orbit.<ref name=BenDiscordComments>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5355713</ref>}}

{{quote|@ItsAllSoUgly, YOU, most of all, Do Not Need the damn Slime. You Are Better than that.|Chris, to Ben.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1183215112305479680</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Ben Saint
| image = [[File:Vapesquaresm.png|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Benjamin H. Chmielinski<ref>https://archive.md/4nvvD</ref>
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = The Cop Killer ItsAllSoUgly Phantom Horn
|label3 = Date of Birth
|data3 = 7 April 1988 (age {{age|1988|4|7}})
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|data6 = White
|label11 = Occupations
|data11 = Engineer (Former) Comic Artist YouTuber
}}
[[File:Ibachandlercroppedsmaller.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Ben Saint's [[2016]] commission detailing [[Liquid Chris]]'s fate.]]
'''Ben Saint''' is a webcomic artist, [[troll]] and self-proclaimed '[[Dimension]]al [[Chris and religion#Doctrines of CWCianity|Prophet]] of C-197 and Hierophant to NLACakaNM'.<ref name=ween>[http://archive.fo/oeyYy#selection-129.1-129.29 Saint's Twitter, archived 8 October 2019]</ref> Though he had been interested in Chris for years, lecturing for two hours on ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' in [[2016]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFOIauPQ5XI&t ''Sonichu 101: A CWC Lecture''</ref> and [[Chris and business|commissioning]] art detailing [[Liquid Chris]]'s fate in the [[Reality Cartoon|comic world]],<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid_Chris#In_the_comic</ref> he is most known for [[weening|exploiting]] Chris and his Internet infamy in order to boost views of his own comic and solicit [[Chris and money|thousands of dollars in donations]] in [[October 2019]].<ref name=financhu>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5460456 Saint appeals to followers to donate $13,000 to save his fictional characters from his plot LARPing, 14 October 2019]</ref> He would provoke him by inserting [[Night Star]], Chris's ''[[My Little Pony]]'' fan character, into his comics and role-playing with him to get him invested in the comic's plot.<ref name=BenDiscordComments></ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-reddit-chris-roleplaying-as-magi-chan-megathread.59768/post-5193650</ref> Unlike [[Alec Benson Leary]] before him, Ben Saint's heavy-handed approach to [[parody]] had failed to gain [[Laughs Under Lucricities]] and acclaim from onlookers. In time, he gave up inciting Chris and gained his approval, and their interactions became unremarkable by the end of [[November 2019]].

==Chris usurps Ben's comic==
{{see also|Sonichu Special 7}}

{{quote|His strips have some catching up to do to get to this point|Chris, on his unauthorized version of events based on Ben's comic<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1179253019847860226</ref>}}

[[File:Chris mad at Discord bot.png|Chris tries to roleplay with Endless War, a Discord bot, which kills his character. Chris retcons the loss in his version of Ben's comic.|thumb|200px]]

Ben began working on a comic, which mostly serves to promote the Discord server/game ''Endless War'', which he runs. In the comic, [[Night Star]] banishes two [[My Little Pony]] characters, Strawberry Milk and Phantom Horn, to NLACakaNM, the land of the game. The latter character is a clear parody of Christorians, so obviously that even Chris notices it. Chris took a near immediate interest in the comics, as early as 16 September. Ben and Chris presumably opened correspondence soon after. As the narrative continued, however, Chris became more displeased with the directions it took. Meanwhile Chris also tried to play ''Endless War'', a game managed by a bot on Ben's Discord server, but was killed and became frustrated. Seeing an opportunity, Saint devoted himself to more deliberate [[weening|attacks]] against Chris, creating a section on his Discord server for that specific purpose.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5420279 Saint prepares 'to declare war' against Chris, 4 October 2019]</ref>

This came to a head on 1 October 2019, when Chris began releasing [[Sonichu Special 7]], his own drawings depicting what he wanted to happen in Ben's comic lore. Chris, role-playing as Magi-Chan, then sent Ben a DM both announcing/commanding that Ben make the comic as Chris willed, as well as demanding Ben provide Chris with $300.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#DM'ing Ben Saint to demand $300]]</ref> Later, Chris would also return to the server and announce that he had revived himself with his [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|goddess powers]] and that the bot's game was over, as Chris's comic canon had deemed it so. Unlike [[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]], where the fancomic author in question approved of Chris using her work, Ben is much more resistant to Chris influencing the work, creating two concurrent and battling canons. In response to this, Ben accused Chris of committing [[A-logging|genocide]] in his revisions, depicting his own characters being injured and [[Chris and death|killed]] by Chris's cleansing rains. Chris initially denied the charges, affirming that Ben's characters would just become normal humans.<ref>[[:File:ChrisGenocide.jpeg]]</ref> Seeking to contrive an incident, Saint stated on Discord that [[CWCville]] had declared war on his own fictional city, giving a [[Chris and death|death]] toll of about 70,000.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/slime9-png.960265/ Saint's incendiary Discord announcement, 5 October 2019]</ref> Chris would thus concede that there had been casualties, yet that 99% of the population of Arizona (where this fictional city was placed) had survived.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191005234550/http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/arizona-population/ The population of Arizona in 2019 was approximately 7,000,000.]</ref> He would regard this loss of fictional life trivial.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863 Chris dismisses Ben, 4 October 2019]</ref> A week later, Chris would justify his overriding Ben's description of his own fictional universe by his superior [[PsychicPowers|psychic powers]] and ability to see into alternate [[dimensions]].<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5459801 Chris justifies his canon wars by goddesshood, 13 October 2019]</ref>

==Decline==
[[File:Chris annoyed at Ben Saint.png|thumb|250px|An annoyed Chris tells Ben to stop harping on the genocide, perturbed to the point he slipped up in his role-playing and ended the message writing as Magi-Chan instead of himself.]]
Attempts to [[troll|provoke]] Chris fell into [[autism|repetitive, stereotypical social patterns]] in mid-October 2019, soon after they began, and would remain so for the rest of the affair. Saint would keep drawing his characters massacred by the soda rain and beg Chris to stop, while Chris would assert that he already had,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5456252 Chris tells a random Saint supporter that his 'cleansing rains' have stopped, 12 October 2019]</ref> and that any deaths already inflicted were [[Chris and remorse|for the greater good]]. Variety was occasionally introduced as Chris sometimes accidentally wrote his replies as [[Magi-Chan]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5422863</ref> When Saint depicted his dead characters on a special story arc in hell,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5446854 Chris complains about dead characters, 10 October 2019]|</ref> or otherwise [[Sonichu 4|diverged his plot]], Chris would [[Chris and hypocrisy|demand Saint return to drawing his comic]] instead of pursuing his role-playing.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5457455 Chris insists Ben get back to work, 14 October 2019]</ref>

Like clockwork, [[white knights]] and other enablers came in to defend Chris's actions and inject their own strain of [[random-access humor|nonsense]] into the mix, nominally to help Chris along. [[Jacob Sockness]] offered on 17 October to summon Jakoba, a war god of his own invention, to demand even more reparations from Saint, yet Chris refused, instead accepting the [[Multidimensional White Knights]]' enlisting [[wikipedia:Ed Bighead|Ed Bighead]], who was supposed to have became the king of Babylon in [[C-197]] and was rallying an army to defend Chris from the slime.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5475019 White knights present bids for Chris, 17 October 2019]</ref> Ben eventually relented, at least in part: he revived, to Chris's approval, his characters that he had killed off earlier that month, using the same ''!revive'' command from his Discord server that Chris had used to declare himself resurrected.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5467553 Saint revives his characters and Chris joins the Yang Gang, 16 October 2019]</ref>

Further interactions with Ben, on Twitter as well as Discord, long continued to dispute whether or not Chris had committed fictional genocide. Accusations of ''hatred'' were common on both sides.<ref name=financhu /> Ben would try to manipulate Chris's version of events by stating his fictional city was rained upon several time, while Chris would resist such changes to his version of events being inserted. Saint's publicity stunt was however stunted by Chris's shifting [[autism|interests]], as he devoted more attention to his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card line]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] returned for a second round of weening after a fortnight's delay. On 19 October, Chris asserted that he had [[Chris and religion|divine mandate]] from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] to supersede Ben's decisions about his comic.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5483895 Ben and Chris continue to argue about genocide, 19 October 2019]</ref>

==Normalisation of relations==
{{main|Ben Saint - Chatting with Chris-Chan}}

Even when exciting him, Saint would sometimes [[enabler|endorse]] Chris's delusional beliefs: he would notably respond with [[Sonic Boom|fiery protests]] whenever somebody else refused to use Chris's [[tomgirl]] pronouns.<ref name=ween />. By [[November 2019]], interactions between Ben Saint and Chris became rarer, yet the atmosphere between them was friendlier than before.<ref>[http://archive.ph/mUhnC#selection-4775.9-4775.13 Archive of Chris's Twitter profile from November 2019, prepared 6 December 2019]</ref> Shifting his attention from ''[[Sonichu 14]]'' to making [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|playing cards]] instead, Chris casually dashed Saint's hope to be included in the ''Sonichu'' canon beside such illustrious figures as [[Bundychu|Ted Bundy]] before him. On 10 November 2019, their rivalry had come to an official end as Chris accepted an invitation to appear on Ben's live stream, where he was interviewed for over an hour. Genocide accusations faded away as Saint continued, with Chris's approval, to use [[Night Star]] and [[Chris Chan Sonichu]] in his comics beside his other characters. Saint would also keep out of the confused web surrounding [[Jacob Sockness]], [[MKRNightVee]] and others who sought positions of power over Chris about the same time. After several months of benign quiet, Ben Saint returned on 29 January 2020, rallying support to hold a [[conventions|convention]] in Virginia at a yet undisclosed time; Chris enthusiastically sanctioned this fundraiser.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5937766 Saint returns], 29 January 2020</ref> Two months later, on 24 [[March 2020]], Chris began supporting Saint on [[Patreon]]:<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6195899 Patreon support begins], 24 Mrch 2020</ref> he pays five dollars monthly, which is not enough to access all of his new comics.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6196728 Chris complains he cannot access ''Slime and Punishment''], 25 March 2020</ref>

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:chriswithbensaint.png|Ben Saint with Chris at Bronycon 2019.
Image:SlimeSaga.png|Ben dreams of influencing Chris and inviting Chris through Twitter DMs to jumpstart the slime saga.
Image:Chrissaysitscanon.PNG|Chris declares the events of Ben's comic to be canon to Sonichu.
File:NoelEdBighead.png|thumb|This is what the MWK and Chris actually believe.
File:HorsefamousMeetssonichufamous.jpg|[[TSSSF]] card involving Ben's characters.
File:COWABUNGA!!!!.png|Failures in a half-shell. Saint with other members of the [[[Unholy Quintet]]]:[[[A-Log]]], [[[TotemSanic]]] and [[[Jacob Sockness]]]
</gallery></center>

==Fan videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Ben Saint talking about the NightStar Comic
| video = {{#ev:youtube|2OL2rMXMp1k}}
| stardate =
| maker = Ben Saint
| subject =
| type =
| info = }}

==References==
<references/>

{{Fantasies}}
{{Sonichu}}
{{Trolls}}

Saga

2018-02-05T20:14:56Z

Cwconthedraw: chronology fix

[[Image:Timeline.png|thumb|right]]
{{Quote|I've had online relationships in my past; most of which were good, but all of them ended not so good for me.|Chris makes the understatement of the century<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref>}}

A '''saga''' (from the Old Norse ''sögur'') is an overall story arc of events.

In the world of [[Chris]], the term is used to describe an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time. Sometimes taking place over the course of months, other times taking place over the course of a few weeks. Since he was discovered online and found to have many hot buttons that made him susceptible to entrapment, Chris has been perpetually embroiled in some saga or other. More often than not, he is trapped in more than one saga at a time or found to be quickly jumping from the end of one to the beginning of the next. The term first came into widespread use with the [[Miyamoto Saga]] and has since been used to describe the overall events in a time period (similar to the term "dynasty").

The exact origin of the term "saga" being used to refer to these events in Chris's life is, as of yet, unknown. However, some argue that the usage may have originated with [[Vivian Gee]]'s [[audiobook]] project.

==Pre-1st Exile==

===Megan Saga (''Summer 2005 - 4 October 2013'')===
[[Image:Megansagaheader.jpg|500px]]
{{main|Megan Schroeder}}

From 2005 to 21 April 2008, this told the story of Chris and his longest and closest relationship with a girl, Megan Schroeder, leading into Chris's first encounter with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and Megan discovering the depths of Chris's madness. It began with a chance meeting at a ''[[Pokémon]] TCG'' League meeting at [[The GAMe PLACe]], which progressed into inappropriate touching and ended with shocking [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|hand-drawn pornography]] that was an embarrassment for all parties involved...excluding Chris. The saga would come to an end when Megan told Chris [[Megan_emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore|she could no longer trust him]].

===Adam Stackhouse Saga (''June 2007 - 4 August 2007'')===
[[Image:Adamsaga.jpg|500px]]
{{main|Adam Stackhouse|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}

In June 2007, Chris entered and attempted to win a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|contest]] in order to win Megan's heart (more or less her china too), only to be beaten by a much superior entry made by one Adam Stackhouse. The saga resulted in [[CWC is Angry|madman]]-style threats and several angry e-mails and posts to contest organizers. Chris would rage for quite some time before deciding enough was enough. This was also the last time a saga was inadvertently caused by an unsuspecting member of the public. From this time on, [[trolls]] would control the content.

===ED Saga (''November 2007 - 14 April 2011'')===
[[Image:Edsaga.jpg|500px]]
{{main|Encyclopedia Dramatica}}

In November 2007, trolls would discover Chris and create a page about him on ED. Chris would initially think that they just got his information wrong, but as time would go on, Chris would reveal the true depths of his insanity, destroying his friendship with Megan Schroeder and becoming the epic lolcow we know him to be. Were it not for this article showing how susceptible he was to trolling and how [[Autism|divinely retarded]] he could be, Chris may have just been another dumbass with no life, and probably would have been more or less forgotten by now. To this day, ED remains a thorn in his side which he must constantly address to those new to his life. Further to this, he still maintains they are out to do him harm.

===Blanca Saga (''August 2008 - 21 October 2008'')===
[[Image:Blancasaga.jpg|500px]]
{{main|Blanca Weiss}}

Around August 2008, Chris would meet Blanca Weiss, making her his first Internet sweetheart. Aside from being the first sweetheart, she also proved how [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|tenacious and strange]] Chris could be about relationships, revealing several [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|quirks and oddities that he felt were somehow appropriate to mention]] to someone he believed loved him. It also showed how useless any [[white knight]]ing efforts could be. In the span of two months, Blanca (actually three trolls working in tandem) would release the infamous pictures of Chris naked, then obtain Chris's [[medallions]] and film a video of them cutting one up and [[Fire|setting it ablaze]].

=== The GAMe PLACe Saga (''August 2008 - June 2014'')===
[[File:Game Place.jpg|500px]]
{{main|The GAMe PLACe|Michael Snyder}}

Currently the longest saga in Christory. For a long time, Chris had been visiting The GAMe PLACe on a regular basis. It was here that Chris would meet Megan herself, as well as [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]], two people who would deliver a number of intel over Chris during his time there. He also participated in the ''[[Pokemon TCG]]'' League, using his own poorly made decks. However, Chris was a pain in the ass to store manager [[Michael Snyder]], and by August 2008, tired of Chris terrorizing various [[niggos|patrons]], yelling at children, bogarting the TV and being an all-round pain, Michael would finally ban Chris from the store, embarrassing him and his mother in the process. It wouldn't be the end, however.

On multiple occasions, Chris returned to the store despite Michael's insistence that he never come back. He tried emails, sneaking in, and [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|pleading]] on [[YouTube]], but nothing worked. The first time he attempted (unsuccessfully, of course) to lift his ban in person was with a prepared, [[Chris and remorse|faux-apologetic speech]]. When that failed, he stormed out angrily and called Michael a [[Chris and race|JEW]], then attempted to rally his "fanbase" and get them [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|to troll him]]. [[6 June 2010|The next occasion]] was much more disturbing. He claimed he was trying to take a picture of Michael [[CWC is Angry|to shoot at]], but was caught in the act and was chased in the parking lot. Nearly running over Michael and his daughter, eventually the [[Jerkops]] got involved, but they did not arrest him. Michael accused him of trying to take [[pedofork|pictures of his daughter]]. Whether it's true or not, it's [[Kacey|confirmed]] that Chris has stalker tendencies.

The saga was revived in October 2011, when Chris and [[Barb|his mother]] visited the GAMe PLACe, and [[28 October 2011|an incident occurred]]. Exact details of events remain unknown, but charges such as assaulting a law enforcement official and property damage of more than $1000 were brought. Barbara was sentenced to community service and two years of probation. Chris was sentenced to community service, one year of probation, and mandatory [[Chris and Reality|psychiatric]] treatment and evaluation. They must also pay Michael Snyder's medical expenses.

Being the longest saga to date, it's little wonder why Barb believes it's at the center of all the trolling.

Finally, on 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' However, this would later be proven dishonest when [[October 2014|6 months later]] he made an angry post on Facebook where he pins all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual jerk", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan until she apologizes for what she's done. His plans were soon foiled in June 2014, however, when it was revealed on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that the GAMe PLACe was shut down for good. Regardless, he still holds a grudge against Mike.

===Jimmy Hill Saga (''mid/late 2008'')===
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At the same time Chris was dealing with Blanca, he was hit with another troll attack as he was led to believe that a man known as Jimmy Hill was using the Sonichu name and character to make money off of him in Europe. The thought of someone making money from his true and original creation led him to [[Captain's Log, Stardate Columbus Day, 2008|stress out and provide proof]] of the [[Copyright|infringement]]. Those attacks would end around the same time the Blanca Saga ended.

===Clyde Cash Saga ''(December 2008 - mid-2010)''===
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In 2008, Chris encountered a new troll named Clyde Cash, who went on a months-long trolling spree to get back at the autistic wonder for supposedly causing his [[Ryan Cash|brother's suicide]]. The saga would result in the revelation of a [[The Miscreants|top secret organization]] hellbent on preventing the manchild from losing his virginity. It only ended with the apparent death of its creator.

However, in [[September 2009]] Chris resumed his war against Clyde Cash after discovering that he and another supposed troll, [[Gregg Mays]], were one and the same person. In the process, he made numerous videos attempting to blackmail the man, going so far as to mock a [[Twin Falling Towers|national tragedy]].

===PandaHalo Saga (''mid/late 2008 - February 2009'')===
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When Chris realized Blanca was a troll, he would move on to PandaHalo as his new sweetheart. The saga came to a quick and abrupt end when he found out that she was supposedly found to be bearing the child of Clyde Cash, conceived through rape. Unsurprisingly, the ever-gullible Chris would quickly abandon Panda and she would (presumably) die in the Australian [[Brushfire Video|brushfires]], despite living miles away from the incident. She would end up giving trolls the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] and [[Slideshow]].

===Miyamoto Saga (''January 2009 - 10 February 2009'')===
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In the beginning of January 2009, Chris would be confronted by a troll posing as [[Nintendo]] developer [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], claiming he would attempt to try to make his ''Sonichu'' game fantasy a reality. Unfortunately, Chris proved to be nothing more than a couch potato, and his ineptitude resulted in horrible delays and stalls to the project's advancement. In the end, "[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]" shut down the entire project with a scathing letter. This trolling encounter would have Chris give trolls a PowerPoint project that talked in great length about [[Chris and his ego|himself]]...and very little about his game.

===Julie Saga (''February 2009 - March 2009'')===
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Arguably ''the'' most divisive and controversial out of Chris's trolls. In February 2009 to early March 2009, Chris's latest sweetheart would be Julie, who was in actuality a 13-year-old troll named [[BlueSpike]]. In this brief timeframe, BlueSpike would release the infamous [[sex tape]] and then torture Chris in many ways in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] chat, where he forced Chris to declare [[BILLY MAYS]] mayor of [[CWCville]] and destroy his second medallion by forcing him to shove it up the dumper. However, BlueSpike's total and utter control over Chris would lead to a schism between trolls, leading to the creation of the [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] and this very wiki.

===Ivy Saga (''March 2009 - July 2009'')===
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In March 2009, a girl named Ivy decided to impress a friend by asking Chris for a video shout-out. She didn't know what would come later; his crush towards her would lead him to create 3 special comics and two music videos, a practical spurt of work that wouldn't be surpassed for awhile. The saga also revealed Chris at his [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|creepiest]] [[CWC's Message for Ivy|yet]], scarring many trolls and Christorians. The saga also resulted in a [[CWC's ¨It's All Coming Back To Me¨|proposal of marriage]]. Despite the work spurt, the saga would come to an abrupt end thanks to a combination of troll interference from [[Joshua Martinez]] and interference from [[Bob Chandler]] and [[Rocky Shoemaker]], leading to Ivy's (fabricated) suicide.

===Vanessa Saga (''April 2009 - May 2009'')===
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In [[April 2009]], troll and fellow [[James Madison University|speech therapy]] attendee [[Joshua Martinez]] succeeded in getting Chris to believe that the ''High School Musical'' actress and pop star [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was in contact with him, through Joshua's AIM, in retaliation for Chris's horrible attempt at getting [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] to [[Vanessa_Saga#Email_to_Joshua|troll him]] like Chris, himself, had been trolled. Chris would create videos to show that he was movie-star material, going so far as to [[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions|cheat]] on his current [[troll|true and honest]] [[Ivy|sweetheart]]. Predictably, [[Chris and reality|he wasn't]] exactly the type Vanessa was looking for.

This [[Vanessa Saga|saga]] goes to show that even the most gullible of things can get by Chris, even when the perceived truth is a [[Weening|horrible]] [[Autism|excuse]] of ammunition against the poor manchild, which just shows how desperate he may be for [[Love Quest|romantic attention]].

===Liquid Chris Saga (''June 21, 2009 - 10 November 2009'')===
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In July 2009, Chris came up with a plan to try getting the trolls off his back. He [[Rollin' and Trollin'|faked a revelation]] that he was apparently a troll himself who is the complete opposite of Chris in real life. Along then came the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler, which got the other Chris (at this point nicknamed [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] and Solid Chris) really pent up with rage. Ian would challenge Chris to a sing-off, with the TRUE and HONEST CWC proving himself the victor in the end. The appearance of this other Chris would pressure the other into churning out more comics than he had before, currently heading for the completion of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], something that many believed would never happen due to the interference of many trolls.

Later, Liquid would return to continue on his quest to get rid of this faker. In the process of this new entry to the saga, Ian and Chris would battle over the heart of Chris's true love, [[Kacey]]. In the end, after a [[Kacey calls|long]] [[Father Call|series]] [[Kacey and Liquid Call|of]] [[The End for Real|calls]] that proved Ian to be unworthy of her love, the real Chris would win out and marry Kacey. Liquid's YouTube account would eventually close on 27 July 2011.

===CWCipedia Saga (''4 May 2009 – 26 June 2010'')===
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In early June 2009, Chris was given his own wiki to upload his comics and blog about his personal life, safe from the trolls who instantly dive at his other web pages and hack them. It doubled as a source for the [[CWCki]] to draw many of Chris's latest failures from, making it his best friend and his worst enemy.

On 19 [[November 2009]], perhaps one of the greatest features the wiki introduced was the [[Mailbag]], in which a dump of all [[fan]] e-mails sent to the admin's address could be answered by Chris, for all to see. This feature provided insight into how Chris responds to trolls through e-mail about his views on, for example, homosexuality, GodJesus, autism, etc.

After 23 November 2009, advertisements linking to porn sites, gay rights organizations, information on Asperger's syndrome, and the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] took residence on the CWCipedia, paid for by trolls. Eventually, Alec, the creator of Asperchu, paid Jack Thaddeus to replace most, if not all, of the ads with ads for Asperpedia. Chris had [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|complained]] [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence|repeatedly]] to the SysOp of the Wiki about these ads, which would have paid for the site until the end of 2010, pending negotiations.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu</ref> All of this had "stressed" Chris out to the point of uploading videos of himself screaming [[death threats]] upon the advertisers' heads, and creating a separate, stress-free, ad-free front page.

This saga would lead to the site being shut down twice in a row, both due to copyright infringement, and would lead to the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]] in the most humiliating way - death by exploding toilet.

The Asperpedia team would continue to vandalize and hijack CWCipedia in a variety of ways until it finally collapsed in May, and Chris finally abandoned the site after already making numerous claims that he'd quit the Internet forever. After Mao moved in to fill the void, he passed ownership to [[Alec]] and [[Vivian Gee]], wherein they took over the site and the rights to Sonichu to begin ''Sonichu'' Season 2, where ultimately, on 26 [[June 2010]], the entire site would be terminated along with the entirety of the original 110mb server.

===Asperchu Saga (''November 2009 - 10 January 2012'')===
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In late November 2009, an artist named Alec Benson Leary started a new series called ''Asperchu'', starring the titular Electric Hedgehog Pokemon. Chris had spent most of December ignoring ''Asperchu'' and its popularity before finally exploding with rage, claiming the series as nothing more than fanfiction and a parody. The popularity of ''Asperchu'', combined with Chris's continuing downward spiral that is [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], has led many of Chris's fans to abandon ''Sonichu'' and go to ''Asperchu''.

Most of the saga has been spent with Chris raging at not just Alec, but also [[Evan]], Sean, and Asperpedia admin Mao over their usage of their characters and how they mock him. As well, Chris has been dealing with Evan over the usage of Simonla Rosechu, with Chris going so far as to deny reality and substitute it with his own.

In terms of productivity, it has given us ''Sonichu'' #10, which showcases Chris going all out in trying to get rid of everything he hates, including homosexuality and trolls. In that same book, Chris kills all four trolls involved in this saga as retaliation for making him kill Simonla Rosechu. Also, [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|nine phone calls]] have been leaked. These phone calls show Alec attempting to get through to Chris and his way of thinking and Chris fighting tooth and nail not to change at all.

In the aftermath of the saga, Evan ceased his ''Simonchu'' comic, proud to have Simonla removed, Alec and Sean continued their respective comics, and Mao continues to poke and jab at Chris. And while the saga had for the most part died down, Asperpedia continued to harass its rival CWCipedia, either by placing new ads, vandalizing it, or shutting it down altogether. One of the post-trial ads even precipitated Chris's falling out with [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]].

Alec Benson Leary would later be [[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|called out]] by Chris in 2011, and his identity was "revealed" as Christopher Paul Whitney, followed by Chris [[Chris and Health|sloppily devouring a cheap microwavable pizza]]. This later turned out to be fake as months later, the ''real'' Christopher Paul Whitney made a response to Chris and essentially confirmed he was not Alec.

===Surfshack Tito Saga (''2 March 2010 - 10 August 2011'')===
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Sometime in January 2010, Chris met and fell in love with [[The Wallflower]], hoping she would be the one who'd end his streak of being a [[virgin with rage]]. On 9 March 2010, Chris would release a ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' video of a stage based off a book he was helping write with his gal-pal... and release her name in the process. Dedicated trolls used the information to discover the gal-pal's identity, but decided to let the [[lulz]] spread naturally. The next day, however, a troll revealed the information to the gal-pal, and while one set of lulz was stopped, another one was set into motion.

The troll, calling himself Surfshack Tito, claimed responsibility for not only hacking his PSN accounts for the umpteenth time, but also stealing The Wallflower from Chris. Chris, in response, threatened to go all out and seemingly try to murder Tito, threatening him with a [[pocket knife]], attacking him with [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racial slurs]], and flashing his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|underwear]] while wearing a Scottish kilt. At the same time, Chris discovered and declared war on the CWCki, demanding that all pages involving himself, his friends and family be altered to suit his needs. To put it bluntly, Chris's attack on the CWCki fell utterly short.

The creativity here has been utterly stunted, especially after The Wallflower left him. He has gone on to blame his fans for wanting him to make more comics and compared them to the trolls that have tormented him. He has also vowed to leave the Internet forever, though he ended up reshowing his face 36 hours after his vow...

Echoes of this saga would be eventually heard in [[August 2011]] when, after announcing his glorious comeback to the Internet, Chris claimed to have discovered the true identity of Tito and tried to blackmail him using this information. Tito eventually [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don#Tito's official response|gave in]] to his demands on 9 August, which Chris [[Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy|later acknowledged and accepted]].

==1st Exile (''20 March 2010 - 29 August 2010'')==
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After Chris lost The Wallflower and fought with Surfshack Tito, an outside force attempted to push Chris away from the Internet. No less than five times, Chris has boldly claimed that he has abandoned the Internet and smugly told his detractors that they should go outside and live their lives, advice Chris should have followed ''years'' ago. However, Chris still latched onto the Internet as much as he could, trying to find ways to sneak in without the force discovering him.

Trolls would end up discovering Chris dancing like a dying turkey at [[Fridays After Five]], then discover that he had set up shop at [[Flipnote Hatena]], where he tried to spread his sick and twisted thoughts to younger, innocent people before being shut down. However, the thing that would finally bring Chris back to the Internet and end his exile would be [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction of his beloved Life Upgrade]]. At his own hands, no less!

==Post-1st Exile/Pre-2nd Exile==
===Jackie Saga (''5 April 2010 - 26 November 2010; 7 December 2010 - May 2012'')===
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Following the fallout of The Wallflower incident, Chris pulled himself away from the Internet, only for him to meet and begin conversing to a woman named Jackie. Meeting her at [[The Hook Cafe]], the two began conversing through [[Jackie Emails|e-mails]], revealing the rationale in Chris's attempts to get back into The GAMe PLACe and showing [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|he's still incredibly disturbing]]. However, Chris broke off his relationship with her after she attempted to get him to change his life for the better.

Around [[September 2010]], Jackie and Chris were confirmed to have attempted to try again with a relationship, with Chris creating [[100_2265|even]] [[ECV 00002|more]] [[Pregnant Act|disturbing]] [[Don'tPintheOop|videos]] in the process. A third party--[[Lars]] McNulty, Jackie's ex-boyfriend--stepped in by the end of September, prompting Chris to release several videos attacking his newfound enemy. Video updates became increasingly bizarre, but still occurred regularly until the end of [[October 2010|October]].

By [[November 2010|November]], the leaked correspondence showed that Jackie was getting increasing impatient as Chris kept failing to fulfill her requests, while Chris made up a lot of lame excuses for why he could not deliver on them, all while continuously begging Jackie to have sex with him. On November 26, Jackie would send Chris the latest in a string of e-mails in which she criticized him for his laziness and unwillingness when it came to pay a more active part in relationships, and how he, despite of this, kept begging her for sex. Chris stopped responding at this point, leading many to believe that the Jackie saga had finished.

However, in [[December 2010|December]], Jackie and Chris were in contact again. This would not be known until 2013, where a whole bunch of emails from then to [[September 2011]] were leaked. During this time, Chris came out as a tomgirl to her, while she later got Chris to make a bunch of humiliating videos, including [[Cakefarts]]. These would be leaked in [[February 2012]], leading to Chris unfriending her on Facebook in [[April 2012|April]], though refriending her a month later. She was never heard from again, putting an end to the saga.

===[[Tomgirl Saga]] (''March 2011 - Present'')===
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In [[March 2011]], Chris's exile from the Internet continued, and his mental state further deteriorated. Some leaked evidence of [[Wikipedia:Transvestitism|transvestitism]] surfaced in [[April 2011|April]], and he later joined the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where his posts showed that Chris and sanity were only vague acquaintances. However, as of 2014, Chris is once again openly cross-dressing, against Barb's wishes (She has openly fought Chris over his new found "passion" for cross dressing as stated by Chris). He now considers himself to be a lesbian transwoman.

===Calling Out Saga (''6 August 2011 - 1 September 2011'')===
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During the beginning of [[August 2011|August]], Chris began to release videos as an attempt to get some sort of [[fangs|reprisal]] and [[Chris and his Ego|apology]] out of the [[trolls#The Few, the Proud, the Elite|trolls]]. Chris warned the trolls that if they didn't meet his [[Chris and negotiation#Calling Out|demands]] on the [[Stress|deadline]] Chris had set for them, then Chris would leak information [[Naïve|that he believed to be true]], even though most believe some of the information to be [[Kimmi|fake]]. This saga is notable for [[Calling Out#Summary|videos]] that showcase Chris's new [[Tomgirl Pictures|Tomgirl]] look, and further set in stone the aformentioned [[Tomgirl Saga]]. These series of videos would, however, come to an abrupt [[September 2011#Events|end]] after [[Chris and death#Robert Franklin Chandler Jr. (1927–2011)|tragedy struck the Chandler household]].

==2nd Exile (''6 September 2011 - 9 July 2014'')==
Unlike most exiles, the 2nd CWC Exile came unannounced with the death of his [[Bob Chandler|father]]. Then came October 28, a day which will live in infamy for Chris. After trespassing and running over [[Michael Snyder]], he and [[Barb]] were arrested. Despite the help of [[Rob Bell]], they were found guilty and were sentenced. Since that day, most, if not all of Chris' internet activity were confined to his [Facebook] account, where he would gripe about loneliness and nostalgia. It wasn't until 2013 where he uploaded a new video. Although [[January 2014]] would bring him back to the spotlight briefly due to a house fire, it wasn't until the Sonic Boom saga where he would return to relevance.

==Post-2nd Exile Sagas==
===Catherine Saga (''9 July 2014 - 14 December 2014'')===
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With his newly acquired feminine wiles from his transition to a Tomgirl, Chris managed to attract a sweetheart who would be his first lesbian romance. In the summer of 2014, Chris would reveal he had found a new sweetheart, whose identity he managed to surprisingly conceal for period of time. Later, he would [[I Love You, Catherine|reveal]] that her name was Catherine. Predictably, she turned out to be a troll, who revealed much about Chris having met with him twice. According to Catherine, his [[Catherine#The Date|behavior had not improved]] since the sexual harassment in the early days of the Megan Saga, and neither had the Chandlers's [[Rental House|comprehension of basic sanitation]]. In addition to Catherine's observation on her personal encounters, Chris also announced he had got a piercing on his [[Un-clit|perineum]], meaning this Saga provides some more detail on Chris's disturbing new features as a Tomgirl.

===Sonic Boom Saga (''3 September 2014 - 7 December 2015'')===
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This Saga began with Chris grumbling on [[Facebook]] about the announcement of the latest [[Sonic]] game, ''[[Wikipedia: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric|Sonic Boom]]''. Chris wasn't alone in his discontent; many of his Facebook friends expressed disapproval about the deteriorating quality of the Sonic games. What made Chris unique in his irritation, is that the fact that Chris took umbrage at the fact Sonic's arms had been changed from flesh-colored to blue.

This baffled most of his white knights, with [[William Elliott Waterman]] trying to explain just how ludicrous Chris's demands to Sega to revert back to blue were, especially considering ''Sonic Boom'' was not part of the ''Sonic'' canon. The fact that Sega had no control in the design of Sonic's arms did not deter him and, thanks to his white knights who unwaveringly encouraged him, he began to protest. Initially, his protest against the "Blue-Armed Bandit" took the form of Facebook boycott groups, petitions, and [[Death Threats|angry messages]] on Sega Facebook pages.

On [[26 December 2014|Boxing Day]], however, this Saga came into bloom, culminating in Chris's second pending court case. Despite warnings from even his most loyal white knights, Chris had decided to take it upon himself to bring the protest into the real world. He went into his local GameStops and vandalized the display cases, including stores he had [[List of places that have banned Chris|previously been banned from]]. It was during his visit to one of these stores that had banned Chris that resulted in his arrest on Boxing Day. Chris had been seen and asked to leave by the [[manajerks|management]]. After initially ignoring their requests he made his way towards the exit and, whilst on the way out, maced an employee, who hadn't been involved in his removal. As a result, Chris spent the weekend in jail, only to have Barb bail him out afterwards.

Despite this, he continues to go on a tard rage over Sonic's blue arms, calling out Kengle because he owns a ''comic'' with blue-armed Sonic, sending glitterbombs to Sega, and buying a Sonic Boom doll just to rip its arms off.

Later though, Chris claims victory in the blue arms debacle, due to Sonic the Hedgehog being his non-blue-armed form in ''Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games''. He says this is the final update for the group, but only time will tell if he's telling the truth.

Ultimately, after six days in court, Chris was found guilty on 15 October 2015 for the GameStop incident and was fined $541 along with a 180-day probation. Thus, the Blue Arms Saga ends (or has it?). Months later, Chris instructed his fanbase to [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers|boycott]] local stores which refused his request to be unbanned.

===Business Saga (''3 July 2014 - 8 June 2016''; ''June 2017 - Present'')===
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Although this Saga began during the Sonic Boom Saga, it ultimately outlasted it. Chris realized during this Saga that he could make significantly large amounts of [[money]] by selling his own products, including Medallions and customized [[Sonichu Amiibo]]s, first on [[eBay]], then on [[Etsy]]. This Saga is notable for featuring the return of frequent video uploads by Chris. Inevitably, Chris's laziness got the better of him (again) and he failed to ship out multiple orders. As his interest in making money dwindled, the [[Financhu Crisis]] began to strain the Chandler finances. Chris failed to get his act together, resulting in him getting banned from selling on Etsy on 8 June 2016, halting the Saga. There were a [[Paid Video Requests|few]] [[Skylanders Imaginators Leader Christine W Chandler: random Review N' Stuff|recurrences]] where Chris attempted to profit from his own products again, but these were expectedly fruitless and short-lived. In [[May 2017]], Chris began drawing [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] pages again after a 561-day hiatus, and in June, he resumed monetizing ''Sonichu'' comics, by setting pages as rewards on his [[Patreon]] account and again offering printed books from [[Lulu]].

===Lady Managers Saga (17 November 2015-2016)===
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===Financhu Crisis Saga (''12 April 2016 - 22 July 2017'')===
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Coined by the members of the [[Kiwi Farms]], this saga began when Chris released [[Please, Donate|a video]] asking for donations in exchange for gifts. Then, he cut out the gifts, and when his Etsy shop was closed, resorted to straight begging, [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|prostitution]], and [[By random request; I still need money, please|video]] [[Update 20160718|requests]]; all while continuing to buy over $1,000 worth of toys and only selling [[Update 20160718|'''THREE POKÉMON CARDS''']] at this saga's beginning, and putting various worthless junk on eBay for exorbitant prices. Chis was eventually able to sell the [[Sonic Totem|Sonic totem]] for $1500 only to [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017|immediately admit to wasting the profits]] on toys and a [[$400 gold necklace]] to replace one Barb previously pawned; a selfish act that shows the full extent of Chris and Barb's financial incompetency. His begging also goes to the point of [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Who wants to pay our mortgage?!|asking on Facebook]] for someone to pay his mortgage. This also shows Chris's [[ego]], since he [[Announcement 06292016|treats his monetary problems that he caused as a charity]].

In June 2017, Chris began to take his Patreon more seriously by actually working on the Sonichu comic; as a result, his Patreon earnings skyrocketed to hundreds of dollars per month and mitigated his desire to beg for money. He has not begged for additional donations since 22 July 2017. However, he remains deeply in debt and has shown no signs of developing greater financial responsibility, and it is still unclear whether his business earnings will be sustainable or if he will return to begging in the future.

===Pmurt Saga (25 September 2016- 20 January 2017)===
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===Doopie Saga (''7 March 2017 - September 26 2017'')===
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Also coined by the [[Kiwi Farms]], This saga began when Chris [[2017 tweets#Empathizing with BPD|made a tweet]] empathizing with ''Planet Dolan'' animator and artist [https://www.youtube.com/user/DoopieDoOver DoopieDoOver]. He began frequently replying to her tweets, usually with small talk and the occasional sharing of a life experience, or shameless attempts at flirting.The saga's climax began on 1 August, when Chris pledged to Doopie's alternative Patreon account, "Kittenbell", which handles pornographic commissions. The same day, Chris listed her among his [[Gal pals]] on "National Girlfriend Day", only for her to promptly rebuke him.
Afterward, Doopie tweeted about the harassment she was receiving (from Chris), went to the Kiwi Farms, and leak his private e-mails to her business account. Chris discovered that Doopie had turned on him and desperately followed several of Doopie's friends (including her [[JERKS|boyfriend]]) in an attempt to stay connected. However, he unfollowed most of them when it became clear his plan would not work, while the rest blocked him themselves.

Doopie has not contacted Chris since August; his hopes of building her into a [[sweetheart]] or [[gal pal]] from the ground up, predictably, were in vain. By September, Chris had found a new sweetheart and moved on. Their interactions showed that Chris's immense [[Chris and socialization|social ineptitude]] and creepy behavior have not abated. Doopie inadvertently became the greatest [[Trolls|troll]] Chris faced in many years, [[Heart level|breaking his heart]] and feeding new information to Christorians.

===Quinn Saga (''7 September 2017 - 5 October 2017'')===

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Jessica Quinn, for years a [[white knight]] of Chris, suddenly decided to troll him with the tried-and-true method of [[Sweetheart|pretending to fall in love with him]]. Highlights of the brief saga include pictures and videos of Chris crying over a short breakup, an old-fashioned [[CLog 10042017 - Q&A NO MORE|rage video]] following their final breakup (which he initially blamed on hackers from [[Kiwi Farms]]), and Quinn manipulating Chris into adding fat fetishism to ''Sonichu''.

===Idea Guy Saga (''8 November 2017 - Present'')===
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{{Main|Idea Guy}}

In early November, Chris began blurting out nonsensical stories about [[Sonichu (comic)|his comics]], such as the characters of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia]] invading [[CWCville]], CWCville reacting to the invasion by setting up [[Operation BARBarossa|concentration camps]], and Vladimir Putin being president of the United States in another dimension. He also began making strange videos involving Internet memes and cultural and historical references he clearly did not understand.

It came to light that an anonymous troll, acting as Chris' "idea guy", noted Chris' difficulty distinguishing [[Chris and reality|reality and fiction]] and lack of understanding of history and politics, and began convincing Chris to make bizarre or politically incorrect content. There are signs that the Idea Guy's influence was coercive or deceptive in nature, such as Chris being [[Chris and hypocrisy|shocked]] at his suggestion that Rosechu was [[Homos#Transgenderism|transgender]], and appearing visibly uncomfortable as he performed an "[[CWC-isms#A|anchuent]] [[Cherokee|Cherokean]] chant".

After a calm period in early January, the saga escalated again as Chris made [[Smashing|two]] [[Get Out, You D*** Nazis|bizarre]] videos of ranting about Nazis and smashing his possessions. Possibly as a response, moderators at [[Kiwi Farms]] doxxed the Idea Guy troll.

==The Future==
If anything remains clear, it is that Chris is incapable of applying past events to current ones. Given this, it is likely that Chris will be enduring one saga or another until the day he dies.

==See also==
*''[[Excel Saga]]''

==References==
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[[Category:Trolling]]
[[Category: Sagas]]

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{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2018]]|The CWCki turns 9|The CWCki turns 9 years old today.}}

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{{EventEntry|23 [[July 2013]]|JenkinsJinkies Week|Happy [[JenkinsJinkies]] Week! This week marks the third anniversary of our favourite troll.}}

{{EventEntry|4 [[February 2011]]|[[CWCki:Inside the Pickle Suit|Inside the Pickle Suit]]|Inside the Pickle Suit, a new CWCki project wherein CWCki users can ask famous Chris trolls for their side of their story. First candidate is [[Ivy|Ivy's ghost]] so be sure you submit your questions by the 10 February deadline.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2011]]|The CWCki turns 2|The CWCki turns 2 years old today.}}

{{EventEntry|15 [[October 2010]]|Fan Works deletion|The votes are in: the Fan Works section has been deleted.}}

{{EventEntry|4 [[October 2010]]|Fan Works fate|Vote [[CWCki:General#getting_rid_of_the_fan_works_section|here]] to determine the fate of the Fan Works index. Voting ends 15 October.}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[March 2010]]|[[Mumble]] transcription month|March is Mumble Month! First organized project of the [[Transcription Collective]] is to finish transcriptions of the [[Mumble]] chats. First project is [[Mumble 2]]. Participants will receive a SPECIAL EDITION userbox. See [[CWCki_talk:Transcription_Collective#March_is_Mumble_Month|here]] for details.}}

{{EventEntry|24 [[February 2010]]|Chris's birthday and [[CWCki:Transcription Collective|Transcription Collective]]|CWCKi celebrates Chris's 28th birthday. In celebration, the [[CWCki:Transcription Collective|Transcription Collective]], a new CWCki project to aid with media transcription, is launched.}}

{{EventEntry|25 [[January 2010]]|Happy birthday, CWCki!|The CWCki's MediaWiki incarnation turns 1 year old today.}}

{{EventEntry|4 [[January 2010]]|CWCki upgrades!|The CWCki moves onto a new server. Within the first 24 hours, all of its images are [[CWCki:Operation Restore|restored]]. With the increased file space the new server offers, CWCki is set to improve even further.}}

{{EventEntry|11 [[December 2009]]|[[CWCki:Operation Grammatification|Operation Grammatification]] is launched|Operation Grammatification, an ongoing project and initial drive, is a new CWCki project designed to correct improper grammar and spelling on the CWCki and to adhere the wiki to standard wiki style.}}

{{EventEntry|30 November 2009|[[CWCki:Artist Commune|Artist Commune]] is founded|The new CWCki project, the Artist Commune, is now launched, to get original art to enrich the CWCki and improve article quality.}}

{{EventEntry|29 November 2009|[[CWCki:Operation Mailbag|Operation Mailbag]]|Operation Mailbag is live. CWCki users, have your questions answered by the [[Christian Weston Chandler|big CWC]] himself on his [[Mailbag]] feature on [[CWCipedia]]. Please refer to the [[CWCki talk:Operation Mailbag|rules of engagement]] before submitting e-mails.}}

{{EventEntry|31 October 2009|Happy Halloween!|It's Halloween on CWCki and we changed the logo to celebrate. The first CWCki holiday logo was designed by PVCC user HugglesAndPuggles. Expect more to come on upcoming holidays.}}
{{EventEntry|25 June 2009|Half Birthday|[[CWCki]] turns six months (0.5 years) old today! Happy birthday!}}

{{EventEntry|05 June 2009|Categorizing videos|A discussion on [[CWCki:Community_Portal#Categorizing_videos_-_POLICY_TYPE_VOTE|revising video categorization]] is underway. All CWCkipedians are encouraged to participate and contribute their thoughts. Discussion ends 12 June 2009.}}

{{EventEntry|01 [[April 2009]]|APRIL FOOL'S|lol, April Fool's.}}

{{EventEntry|25 March 2009|Scrapbook of Fail|Some new, hi-res images of slide show pictures from the [[DVD]] have been uploaded.}}

{{EventEntry|24 March 2009|Scrapbook of Fail|All 518 images from the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] have been uploaded.}}

{{EventEntry|11 March 2009|The best damn icon ever|This page gets an icon.}}

{{EventEntry|10 March 2009|The Great Unsuckening|CWCki undergoes a makeover to make it look like a more respectable wiki.}}

{{EventEntry|27 January 2009|Editing In Progress|The CWCki undergoes heavy editing in order to take over from its predecessor}}

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{{Quote|I've had online relationships in my past; most of which were good, but all of them ended not so good for me.|Chris makes the understatement of the century<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref>}}

A '''saga''' (from the Old Norse ''sögur'') is an overall story arc of events.

In the world of [[Chris]], the term is used to describe an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time. Sometimes taking place over the course of months, other times taking place over the course of a few weeks. Since he was discovered online and found to have many hot buttons that made him susceptible to entrapment, Chris has been perpetually embroiled in some saga or other. More often than not, he is trapped in more than one saga at a time or found to be quickly jumping from the end of one to the beginning of the next. The term first came into widespread use with the [[Miyamoto Saga]] and has since been used to describe the overall events in a time period (similar to the term "dynasty").

The exact origin of the term "saga" being used to refer to these events in Chris's life is, as of yet, unknown. However, some argue that the usage may have originated with [[Vivian Gee]]'s [[audiobook]] project.

==List of Sagas: Pre-1st Exile==
===Megan Saga (''Summer 2005 - 18 March 2008'')===
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{{main|Megan Schroeder}}

The first saga in the story of Christian Weston Chandler. From 2005 to 18 March 2008, this told the story of Chris and his longest and closest relationship with a girl, Megan Schroeder, leading into Chris's first encounter with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and Megan discovering the depths of Chris's madness. It began with a chance meeting at a ''[[Pokémon]] TCG'' League meeting at [[The GAMe PLACe]], which progressed into inappropriate touching and ended with shocking [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|hand-drawn pornography]] that was an embarrassment for all parties involved...excluding Chris.

===Adam Stackhouse Saga (''June 2007 - 4 August 2007'')===
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{{main|Adam Stackhouse|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}

In June 2007, Chris entered and attempted to win a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|contest]] in order to win Megan's heart (more or less her china too) , only to be beaten by a much superior entry made by one Adam Stackhouse. The saga resulted in [[CWC is Angry|madman]]-style threats and several angry e-mails and posts to contest organizers. Chris would rage for quite some time before deciding enough was enough. This was also the last time a saga was inadvertently caused by an unsuspecting member of the public. From this time on, [[trolls]] would control the content.

===ED Saga (''November 2007 - 14 April 2011'')===
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{{main|Encyclopedia Dramatica}}

In November 2007, trolls would discover Chris and create a page about him on ED. Chris would initially think that they just got his information wrong, but as time would go on, Chris would reveal the true depths of his insanity, destroying his friendship with Megan Schroeder and becoming the epic lolcow we know him to be. Were it not for this article showing how susceptible he was to trolling and how [[Autism|divinely retarded]] he could be, Chris may have just been another dumbass with no life, and probably would have been more or less forgotten by now. To this day, ED remains a thorn in his side which he must constantly address to those new to his life. Further to this, he still maintains they are out to do him harm.

===Blanca Saga (''August 2008 - 21 October 2008'')===
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{{main|Blanca Weiss}}

Around August 2008, Chris would meet Blanca Weiss, making her his first Internet sweetheart. Aside from being the first sweetheart, she also proved how [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|tenacious and strange]] Chris could be about relationships, revealing several [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|quirks and oddities that he felt were somehow appropriate to mention]] to someone he believed loved him. It also showed how useless any [[white knight]]ing efforts could be. In the span of two months, Blanca (actually three trolls working in tandem) would release the infamous pictures of Chris naked, then obtain Chris's [[medallions]] and film a video of them cutting one up and [[Fire|setting it ablaze]].

===Jimmy Hill Saga (''mid/late 2008'')===
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{{main|Jimmy Hill}}

At the same time Chris was dealing with Blanca, he was hit with another troll attack as he was led to believe that a man known as Jimmy Hill was using the Sonichu name and character to make money off of him in Europe. The thought of someone making money from his true and original creation led him to [[Captain's Log, Stardate Columbus Day, 2008|stress out and provide proof]] of the [[Copyright|infringement]]. Those attacks would end around the same time the Blanca Saga ended.

===Clyde Cash Saga ''(December 2008 - Around 2010, Possibly Ongoing )''===
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{{main|Clyde Cash}}

In 2008, Chris encountered a new troll named Clyde Cash, who went on a months-long trolling spree to get back at the autistic wonder for supposedly causing his [[Ryan Cash|brother's suicide]]. The saga would result in the revelation of a [[The Miscreants|top secret organization]] hellbent on preventing the manchild from losing his virginity. It only ended with the apparent death of its creator.

However, in [[September 2009]] Chris resumed his war against Clyde Cash after discovering that he and another supposed troll, [[Gregg Mays]], were one and the same person. In the process, he made numerous videos attempting to blackmail the man, going so far as to mock a [[Twin Falling Towers|national tragedy]].

===PandaHalo Saga (''mid/late 2008 - February 2009'')===
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{{main|PandaHalo}}

When Chris realized Blanca was a troll, he would move on to PandaHalo as his new sweetheart. The saga came to a quick and abrupt end when he found out that she was supposedly found to be bearing the child of Clyde Cash, conceived through rape. Unsurprisingly, the ever-gullible Chris would quickly abandon Panda and she would (presumably) die in the Australian [[Brushfire Video|brushfires]], despite living miles away from the incident. She would end up giving trolls the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] and [[Slideshow]].

===Miyamoto Saga (''January 2009 - 10 February 2009'')===
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{{main|Miyamoto Saga}}

In the beginning of January 2009, Chris would be confronted by a troll posing as [[Nintendo]] developer [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], claiming he would attempt to try to make his ''Sonichu'' game fantasy a reality. Unfortunately, Chris proved to be nothing more than a couch potato, and his ineptitude resulted in horrible delays and stalls to the project's advancement. In the end, "[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]" shut down the entire project with a scathing letter. This trolling encounter would have Chris give trolls a PowerPoint project that talked in great length about [[Chris and his ego|himself]]...and very little about his game.

===Julie Saga (''February 2009 - March 2009'')===
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{{main|Julie}}

Arguably ''the'' most divisive and controversial out of Chris's trolls. In February 2009 to early March 2009, Chris's latest sweetheart would be Julie, who was in actuality a 13-year-old troll named [[BlueSpike]]. In this brief timeframe, BlueSpike would release the infamous [[sex tape]] and then torture Chris in many ways in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] chat, where he forced Chris to declare [[BILLY MAYS]] mayor of [[CWCville]] and destroy his second medallion by forcing him to shove it up the dumper. However, BlueSpike's total and utter control over Chris would lead to a schism between trolls, leading to the creation of the [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] and this very wiki.

===Ivy Saga (''March 2009 - July 2009'')===
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{{main|Ivy}}

In March 2009, a girl named Ivy decided to impress a friend by asking Chris for a video shout-out. She didn't know what would come later; his crush towards her would lead him to create 3 special comics and two music videos, a practical spurt of work that wouldn't be surpassed for awhile. The saga also revealed Chris at his [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|creepiest]] [[CWC's Message for Ivy|yet]], scarring many trolls and Christorians. The saga also resulted in a [[CWC's ¨It's All Coming Back To Me¨|proposal of marriage]]. Despite the work spurt, the saga would come to an abrupt end thanks to a combination of troll interference from [[Joshua Martinez]] and interference from [[Bob Chandler]] and [[Rocky Shoemaker]], leading to Ivy's (fabricated) suicide.

===Vanessa Saga (''April 2009 - May 2009'')===
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{{main|Vanessa Hudgens|Vanessa Saga}}

In [[April 2009]], troll, and fellow [[James Madison University|speech therapy]] attendee, [[Joshua Martinez]] succeeded in getting Chris to believe that the ''High School Musical'' actress and pop star [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was in contact with him, through Joshua's AIM, in retaliation for Chris's horrible attempt at getting [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] to [[Vanessa_Saga#Email_to_Joshua|troll him]] like Chris, himself, had been trolled. Chris would create videos to show that he was movie-star material, going so far as to [[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions|cheat]] on his current [[troll|true and honest]] [[Ivy|sweetheart]]. Predictably, [[Chris and reality|he wasn't]] exactly the type Vanessa was looking for.

This [[Vanessa Saga|saga]] goes to show that even the most gullible of things can get by Chris, even when the perceived truth is a [[Weening|horrible]] [[Autism|excuse]] of ammunition against the poor manchild, which just shows how desperate he may be for [[Love Quest|romantic attention]].

===Liquid Chris Saga (''June 21, 2009 - 10 November 2009'')===
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{{main|Liquid Chris}}

In July 2009, Chris came up with a plan to try getting the trolls off his back. He [[Rollin' and Trollin'|faked a revelation]] that he was apparently a troll himself who is the complete opposite of Chris in real life. Along then came the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler, which got the other Chris (at this point nicknamed [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] and Solid Chris) really pent up with rage. Ian would challenge Chris to a sing-off, with the TRUE and HONEST CWC proving himself the victor in the end. The appearance of this other Chris would pressure the other into churning out more comics than he had before, currently heading for the completion of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], something that many believed would never happen due to the interference of many trolls.

Later, Liquid would return to continue on his quest to get rid of this faker. In the process of this new entry to the saga, Ian and Chris would battle over the heart of Chris's true love, [[Kacey]]. In the end, after a [[Kacey calls|long]] [[Father Call|series]] [[Kacey and Liquid Call|of]] [[The End for Real|calls]] that proved Ian to be unworthy of her love, the real Chris would win out and marry Kacey. Liquid's YouTube account would eventually close on 27 July 2011.

===CWCipedia Saga (''4 May 2009 – 26 June 2010'')===
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{{main|CWCipedia}}

In early June 2009, Chris was given his own wiki to upload his comics and blog about his personal life, safe from the trolls who instantly dive at his other web pages and hack them. It doubled as a source for the [[CWCki]] to draw many of Chris's latest failures from, making it his best friend and his worst enemy.

On 19 [[November 2009]], perhaps one of the greatest features the wiki introduced was the [[Mailbag]], in which a dump of all [[fan]] e-mails sent to the admin's address could be answered by Chris, for all to see. This feature provided insight into how Chris responds to trolls through e-mail about his views on, for example, homosexuality, GodJesus, autism, etc.

After 23 November 2009, advertisements linking to porn sites, gay rights organizations, information on Asperger's syndrome, and the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] took residence on the CWCipedia, paid for by trolls. Eventually, Alec, the creator of Asperchu, paid Jack Thaddeus to replace most, if not all, of the ads with ads for Asperpedia. Chris had [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|complained]] [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence|repeatedly]] to the SysOp of the Wiki about these ads, which would have paid for the site until the end of 2010, pending negotiations.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu</ref> All of this had "stressed" Chris out to the point of uploading videos of himself screaming [[death threats]] upon the advertisers' heads, and creating a separate, stress-free, ad-free front page.

This saga would lead to the site being shut down twice in a row, both due to copyright infringement, and would lead to the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]] in the most humiliating way - death by exploding toilet.

The Asperpedia team would continue to vandalize and hijack CWCipedia in a variety of ways until it finally collapsed in May, and Chris finally abandoned the site after already making numerous claims that he'd quit the Internet forever. After Mao moved in to fill the void, he passed ownership to [[Alec]] and [[Vivian Gee]], wherein they took over the site and the rights to Sonichu to begin ''Sonichu'' Season 2, where ultimately, on 26 [[June 2010]], the entire site would be terminated along with the entirety of the original 110mb server.

===Asperchu Saga (''November 2009 - 30 August 2011'')===
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{{main|Asperchu}}

In late November 2009, an artist named Alec Benson Leary started a new series called ''Asperchu'', starring the titular Electric Hedgehog Pokemon. Chris had spent most of December ignoring ''Asperchu'' and its popularity before finally exploding with rage, claiming the series as nothing more than fanfiction and a parody. The popularity of ''Asperchu'', combined with Chris's continuing downward spiral that is [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], has led many of Chris's fans to abandon ''Sonichu'' and go to ''Asperchu''.

Most of the saga has been spent with Chris raging at not just Alec, but also [[Evan]], Sean, and Asperpedia admin Mao over their usage of their characters and how they mock him. As well, Chris has been dealing with Evan over the usage of Simonla Rosechu, with Chris going so far as to deny reality and substitute it with his own.

In terms of productivity, it has given us ''Sonichu'' #10, which showcases Chris going all out in trying to get rid of everything he hates, including homosexuality and trolls. In that same book, Chris kills all four trolls involved in this saga as retaliation for making him kill Simonla Rosechu. Also, [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|nine phone calls]] have been leaked. These phone calls show Alec attempting to get through to Chris and his way of thinking and Chris fighting tooth and nail not to change at all.

In the aftermath of the saga, Evan ceased his ''Simonchu'' comic, proud to have Simonla removed, Alec and Sean continued their respective comics, and Mao continues to poke and jab at Chris. And while the saga had for the most part died down, Asperpedia continued to harass its rival CWCipedia, either by placing new ads, vandalizing it, or shutting it down altogether. One of the post-trial ads even precipitated Chris's falling out with [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]].

Alec Benson Leary would later be [[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|called out]] by Chris in 2011, and his identity was "revealed" as Christopher Paul Whitney, followed by Chris [[Chris and Health|sloppily devouring a cheap microwavable pizza]]. This later turned out to be fake as the ''real'' Christopher Paul Whitney made a response to Chris and essentially confirmed he was not Alec.

===Surfshack Tito Saga (''2 March 2010 - 10 August 2011'')===
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{{Main|Surfshack Tito}}

Sometime in January 2010, Chris met and fell in love with [[The Wallflower]], hoping she would be the one who'd end his streak of being a [[virgin with rage]]. On 9 March 2010, Chris would release a ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' video of a stage based off a book he was helping write with his gal-pal...and release her name in the process. Dedicated trolls used the information to discover the gal-pal's identity, but decided to let the [[lulz]] spread naturally. The next day, however, a troll revealed the information to the gal-pal, and while one set of lulz was stopped, another one was set into motion.

The troll, calling himself Surfshack Tito, claimed responsibility for not only hacking his PSN accounts for the umpteenth time, but also stealing The Wallflower from Chris. Chris, in response, threatened to go all out and seemingly try to murder Tito, threatening him with a [[pocket knife]], attacking him with [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racial slurs]], and flashing his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|underwear]] while wearing a Scottish kilt. At the same time, Chris discovered and declared war on the CWCki, demanding that all pages involving himself, his friends and family be altered to suit his needs. To put it bluntly, Chris's attack on the CWCki fell utterly short.

The creativity here has been utterly stunted, especially after The Wallflower left him. He has gone on to blame his fans for wanting him to make more comics and compared them to the trolls that have tormented him. He has also vowed to leave the Internet forever, though he ended up reshowing his face 36 hours after his vow...

Echoes of this saga would be eventually heard in [[August 2011]] when, after announcing his glorious comeback to the Internet, Chris claimed to have discovered the true identity of Tito and tried to blackmail him using this information. Tito eventually [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don#Tito's official response|gave in]] to his demands on 9 August, which Chris [[Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy|later acknowledged and accepted]].

=== The GAMe PLACe Saga (''pre-2005 - June 2014'')===
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{{main|The GAMe PLACe|Michael Snyder}}

Currently the longest saga in Christory. For a long time, Chris had been visiting The GAMe PLACe on a regular basis. It was here that Chris would meet Megan herself, as well as [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]], two people who would deliver a number of intel over Chris during his time there. He also participated in the ''[[Pokemon TCG]]'' League, using his own poorly made decks. However, Chris was a pain in the ass to store manager [[Michael Snyder]], and by August 2008, tired of Chris terrorizing various [[niggos|patrons]], yelling at children, bogarting the TV and being an all-round pain, Michael would finally ban Chris from the store, embarrassing him and his mother in the process. It wouldn't be the end, however.

On multiple occasions, Chris returned to the store despite Michael's insistence that he never come back. He tried emails, sneaking in, and [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|pleading]] on [[YouTube]], but nothing worked. The first time he attempted (unsuccessfully, of course) to lift his ban in person was with a prepared, [[Chris and remorse|faux-apologetic speech]]. When that failed, he stormed out angrily and called Michael a [[Chris and race|JEW]], then attempted to rally his "fanbase" and get them [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|to troll him]]. [[6 June 2010|The next occasion]] was much more disturbing. He claimed he was trying to take a picture of Michael [[CWC is Angry|to shoot at]], but was caught in the act and was chased in the parking lot. Nearly running over Michael and his daughter, eventually the [[Jerkops]] got involved, but they did not arrest him. Michael accused him of trying to take [[pedofork|pictures of his daughter]]. Whether it's true or not, it's [[Kacey|confirmed]] that Chris has stalker tendencies.

The saga was revived in October 2011, when Chris and [[Barb|his mother]] visited the GAMe PLACe, and [[28 October 2011|an incident occurred]]. Exact details of events remain unknown, but charges such as assaulting a law enforcement official and property damage of more than $1000 were brought. Barbara was sentenced to community service and two years of probation. Chris was sentenced to community service, one year of probation, and mandatory [[Chris and Reality|psychiatric]] treatment and evaluation. They must also pay Michael Snyder's medical expenses.

Being the longest saga to date, it's little wonder why Barb believes it's at the center of all the trolling.

Finally, on 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' However, this would later be proven dishonest when [[October 2014|6 months later]] he made an angry post on Facebook where he pins all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual jerk", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan until she apologizes for what she's done. His plans were soon foiled in June 2014, however, when it was revealed on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that the GAMe PLACe was shut down for good. Regardless, he still holds a grudge against Mike.

==1st Exile Sagas==
===The CWC Exile Saga (''20 March 2010 - 29 August 2010'')===
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{{main|Rocky Shoemaker|Fridays After Five|Flipnote Hatena}}

After Chris lost The Wallflower and fought with Surfshack Tito, an outside force attempted to push Chris away from the Internet. No less than five times, Chris has boldly claimed that he has abandoned the Internet and smugly told his detractors that they should go outside and live their lives, advice Chris should have followed ''years'' ago. However, Chris still latched onto the Internet as much as he could, trying to find ways to sneak in without the force discovering him.

Trolls would end up discovering Chris dancing like a dying turkey at [[Fridays After Five]], then discover that he had set up shop at [[Flipnote Hatena]], where he tried to spread his sick and twisted thoughts to younger, innocent people before being shut down. However, the thing that would finally bring Chris back to the Internet and end his exile would be [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction of his beloved Life Upgrade]]. At his own hands, no less!

==Post 1st Exile/Pre 2nd Exile==
===Jackie Saga (''April 5, 2010 - November 26, 2010'')===
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{{main|Jackie}}

Following the fallout of The Wallflower incident, Chris pulled himself away from the Internet, only for him to meet and begin conversing to a woman named Jackie. Meeting her at [[The Hook Cafe]], the two began conversing through [[Jackie Emails|e-mails]], revealing the rationale in Chris's attempts to get back into The GAMe PLACe and showing [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|he's still incredibly disturbing]]. However, Chris broke off his relationship with her after she attempted to get him to change his life for the better.

Around [[September 2010]], Jackie and Chris were confirmed to have attempted to try again with a relationship, with Chris creating [[100_2265|even]] [[ECV 00002|more]] [[Pregnant Act|disturbing]] [[Don'tPintheOop|videos]] in the process. A third party--[[Lars]] McNulty, Jackie's ex-boyfriend--stepped in by the end of September, prompting Chris to release several videos attacking his newfound enemy. Video updates became increasingly bizarre, but still occurred regularly until the end of [[October 2010|October]].

By [[November 2010|November]], the leaked correspondence showed that Jackie was getting increasing impatient as Chris kept failing to fulfill her requests, while Chris made up a lot of lame excuses for why he could not deliver on them, all while continuously begging Jackie to have sex with him. On November 26, Jackie would send Chris the latest in a string of e-mails in which she criticized him for his laziness and unwillingness when it came to pay a more active part in relationships, and how he, despite of this, kept begging her for sex. Chris stopped responding at this point, putting an end to the saga.

===[[Tomgirl Saga]] (''28 April 2011 - ongoing, Honestly Who Knows When It'll End'')===
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In Early/mid-2011, Chris's exile from the Internet continued, and his mental state deteriorated. Some leaked evidence of [[Wikipedia:Transvestitism|transvestitism]] surfaced in [[April 2011|April]], and he later joined the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where his posts showed that Chris and sanity were only vague acquaintances. However, as of 2014, Chris is once again openly cross-dressing, against Barb's wishes (She has openly fought Chris over his new found "passion" for cross dressing as stated by Chris) .

===Call Out Saga (''06 August 2011 - 01 September 2011'')===
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During the beginning of [[August 2011|August]], Chris began to release videos as an attempt to get some sort of [[fangs|reprisal]] and [[Chris and his Ego|apology]] out of the [[trolls#The Few, the Proud, the Elite|trolls]]. Chris warned the trolls that if they didn't meet his [[Chris and negotiation#Calling Out|demands]] on the [[Stress|deadline]] Chris had set for them, then Chris would leak information [[Naïve|that he believed to be true]], even though most believe some of the information to be [[Kimmi|fake]]. This saga is notable for [[Calling Out#Summary|videos]] that showcase Chris's new [[Tomgirl Pictures|Tomgirl]] look, and further set in stone the aformentioned [[Tomgirl Saga]]. These series of videos would, however, come to an abrupt [[September 2011#Events|end]] after [[Chris and death#Robert Franklin Chandler Jr. (1927–2011)|tragedy struck the Chandler household]].
==Post 2nd Exile Sagas==
===Catherine Saga (''9 July 2014 - 14 December 2014'')===
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With his newly acquired feminine wiles from his transition to a Tomgirl, Chris managed to attract a sweetheart who would be his first lesbian romance. In the summer of 2014, Chris would reveal he had found a new sweetheart, whose identity he managed to surprisingly conceal for period of time. Later, he would [[I Love You, Catherine|reveal]] that her name was Catherine. Predictably, she turned out to be a troll, who revealed much about Chris having met with him twice. According to Catherine, his [[Catherine#The Date|behavior had not improved]] since the sexual harassment in the early days of the Megan Saga, and neither had the Chandlers's [[Rental House|comprehension of basic sanitation]]. In addition to Catherine's observation on her personal encounters, Chris also announced he had got a piercing on his [[Un-clit|perineum]], meaning this Saga provides some more detail on Chris's disturbing new features as a Tomgirl.

===Sonic Boom Saga (''3 September 2014 - 7 December 2015'')===
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This Saga began with Chris grumbling on [[Facebook]] about the announcement of the latest [[Sonic]] game, ''[[Wikipedia: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric|Sonic Boom]]''. Chris wasn't alone in his discontent; many of his Facebook friends expressed disapproval about the deteriorating quality of the Sonic games. What made Chris unique in his irritation, is that the fact that Chris took umbrage at the fact Sonic's arms had been changed from flesh-colored to blue.

This baffled most of his white knights, with [[William Elliott Waterman]] trying to explain just how ludicrous Chris's demands to Sega to revert back to blue were, especially considering ''Sonic Boom'' was not part of the ''Sonic'' canon. The fact that Sega had no control in the design of Sonic's arms did not deter him and, thanks to his white knights who unwaveringly encouraged him, he began to protest. Initially, his protest against the "Blue-Armed Bandit" took the form of Facebook boycott groups, petitions, and [[Death Threats|angry messages]] on Sega Facebook pages.

On [[26 December 2014|Boxing Day]], however, this Saga came into bloom, culminating in Chris's second pending court case. Despite warnings from even his most loyal white knights, Chris had decided to take it upon himself to bring the protest into the real world. He went into his local GameStops and vandalized the display cases, including stores he had [[List of places that have banned Chris|previously been banned from]]. It was during his visit to one of these stores that had banned Chris that resulted in his arrest on Boxing Day. Chris had been seen and asked to leave by the [[manajerks|management]]. After initially ignoring their requests he made his way towards the exit and, whilst on the way out, maced an employee, who hadn't been involved in his removal. As a result, Chris spent the weekend in jail, only to have Barb bail him out afterwards.

Despite this, he continues to go on a tard rage over Sonic's blue arms, calling out Kengle because he owns a ''comic'' with blue-armed Sonic, sending glitterbombs to Sega, and buying a Sonic Boom doll just to rip its arms off.

Later though, Chris claims victory in the blue arms debacle, due to Sonic the Hedgehog being his non-blue-armed form in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. He says this is the final update for the group, but only time will tell if he's telling the truth.

Ultimately, after six days in court, Chris was found guilty on 15 October 2015 for the GameStop incident and was fined $541 along with a 180-day probation. Thus, the Blue Arms Saga ends (or has it?) Months later, Chris instructed his fanbase to [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers|boycott]] local stores which refused his request to be unbanned.

===Selling Out Saga (''3 July 2014 - 8 June 2016'')===
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Although this Saga began during the Sonic Boom Saga, it ultimately outlasted it. Chris realized during this Saga that he could make significantly large amounts of [[money]] by selling his own products, including Medallions and freshly-customized [[Sonichu Amiibo]]s. This Saga is notable for featuring the return of frequent video uploads by Chris, including the return of some Classic Chris aspects that had long been thought to have been put aside. Inevitably, Chris's laziness got the better of him (again) and he failed to ship out multiple orders. This caused the store to be shut down on 8 June 2016, which Chris later acknowledged in a [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|video]], thus ending the Saga. At any rate, there were a [[CWC vs Koas|few]] [[Skylanders Imaginators Leader Christine W Chandler: random Review N' Stuff|recurrences]] where Chris attempted to profit from his own merchandise again, but these were expectedly fruitless and short-lived.

===Financhu Saga (''12 April 2016 - Present'')===
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Coined by the members of the [[Kiwi Farms]], this saga began when Chris released [[Please, Donate|a video]] asking for donations in exchange for gifts. Then, he cut out the gifts, and when his Etsy shop was closed, resorted to straight begging, [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|prostitution]], and [[By random request; I still need money, please|video]] [[Update 20160718|requests]]; all while continuing to buy over $1,000 worth of toys and only selling [[Update 20160718|'''THREE POKEMON CARDS''']] since this saga's beginning, and putting various worthless junk on eBay for exorbitant prices, showing the full extent of Chris and Barb's financial incompetency. His begging also goes to the point of [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Who wants to pay our mortgage?!|asking on Facebook]] for someone to pay his mortgage. This also shows Chris's [[ego]], since he [[Announcement 06292016|treats his monetary problems that he caused as a charity]].

==The Future==
If anything remains clear, it is that Chris is incapable of applying past events to current ones. Given this, it is likely that Chris will be enduring one saga or another until the day he dies.

==See also==
*''[[Excel Saga]]''

==References==
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