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Chris and Spanish

2017-05-29T04:33:29Z

Dasphillipbrau:

[[File:397-RicardoBadge.jpg|thumb|right|The badge don't lie.]]

'''[[Wikipedia:Spanish|Spanish]]''' is an Indo-European language spoken by over 350,000,000 people worldwide, one of whom is [[Chris]] (arguably). He often uses Spanish in his videos and comics, as it was one of the few things that he learned at [[Manchester High School]], [[Honor roll|however poorly]]. He often refers to himself by his Spanish name, '''Ricardo'''.

Chris is proud of his tenuous grasp of the Spanish language, but this has not prevented [[Chris and race|racism]] against [[Joshua Martinez|Hispanics]], creating a stereotypical [[Heather Iglesias|babysitter in his comics]] and a highly stereotypical sombrero-wearing Pokémon called [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|Espanolic]], who "confuses its enemies with its language." Based on his vocabulary, and the fact that it's the most common spanish dialect for Americans, Chris most likely learned a standard central Mexican dialect.

==Chris's "knowledge" of the language==
Chris's actual grasp of the language must be inferred from various sources. At [[Manchester High School]], Chris took two years (4 semesters) of Spanish.
The [[Manchester_High_Leaks#Spanish|Manchester High Leaks]] indicate that Chris had a basic grasp of Spanish Level 1 and possibly 2. His exact grades aren't known, but they were likely to be average. On [[Okcupid]], Chris claimed to speak Spanish, and wrote a large section of his profile in it (which was riddled with mistakes). He also states that he speaks Spanish on his [[resume]] (but mentions that he has only taken 2 years). He also has written some [[Sonichu]] comic pages in Spanish. Chris seems confident in his Spanish, despite plentiful evidence suggesting his grasp of it is feeble - he frequently makes mistakes of grammar and tense, and only employs the most basic of verb conjugations.

[[Image:Axe en español.jpg|thumb|right|229px|An improved version of the infamous [[Axe]] ad, made by a real Spanish speaker.]]

In Chris's [[CWC_Update_29_July_2009|July 29, 2009 video]] to our [[Liquid Chris|TRUE and HONEST hero]], he displays his grasp on Spanish, although basic for the majority. It can be safely assumed he used online Spanish dictionaries for words he did not know. Another video involving Spanish is [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]] (a weird 1337[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet] Spanish title), in which he says "Love [[Sonichu]]" and "hate [[Asperchu]]" backwards in English, surrounded by a sentence in awkward Spanish. In another display of his Spanish, his old Spanish assignment to create a [[Hotel Ricky Ricardo|hotel]] was released online. This assignment is mostly just basic Spanish and not very advanced.

==Ricardo Weston Chandler==
'''Ricardo Weston Chandler''' is Chris's Spanish alter-ego. Presumably named in honor of [[Wikipedia:Ricky Ricardo|Ricky Ricardo]], a main character in ''[[I Love Lucy]]'', one of Chris's favorite TV shows. This is a "Spanish name" Chris chose for Spanish class (a general practice in language classes where students will take a name in the language they're learning in order to "get into" the culture and language). Of course, while most people forget about this when they've left the course (or in some cases, even the teachers abandon the practice shortly into the course), Chris has adopted "Ricardo" as his actual Spanish name and uses it for his Spanish-related endeavors.

He is oblivious to the fact that in most European languages, people do not change their name when using a different language, but instead use the language's native form of the name, or transliterate it to fit the language's orthography. While Christian is actually a rather common name in Hispanic countries, if it were translated, his full name would be "Cristóbal Cristian Weston Velero" (alternatively, his middle name could be rendered "Huestón", as Spanish uses W only with loanwords). Of course it must be noted that Ricardo's linguistic skills have brought us gems such as [[noviophobia]] (from the Spanish ''novio'', "boyfriend"). It should also be noted that Ricardo is the Spanish and Portuguese version of the name "Richard", which is sometimes shortened to [[duck|"Dick"]].

==Works in which CWC uses Spanish==
[[File:Sonichu 4 caratula by amalockh1-d2yi4v6.jpg|right|thumb|What would likely happen if Chris tried to exercise his skills in a Spanish-speaking country.]]
*[[CWC Update 29 July 2009]]
*[[CWC's Pokésite 2]]
*[[Hotel Ricky Ricardo]]
*[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]
*"[[La Cocina en La Casa de Casanova]]"
*"[[Valentines Day Hymn]]"
*His leaked [[Manchester High Leaks|Manchester High School homework]]
*[[Mumble_2#Chris.27s_fail-riffic_Spanish|Mumble 2]]
*[[OkCupid]]
*[[SingStar_Challenge#Transcript|SingStar Challenge]]
*[[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]
*[[Sonichu_Girls#The_letter_in_Spanish|Chris's letters to the Sonichu Girls]]
*[[:File:396-PokePizzaria.jpg|El Café de Pokémon Pizzaria]] [sic]
*[[:File:052-LindaRonstadtIn.jpg|Christian's Favorite Hits: Los [sic] Canciónes [sic] Españolas de Ricardo]]
*[[Katie Bay E-mails 3|Chris's e-mails with Katie Bay]]
*[[Facebook messages|Facebook message to Christina]]
*[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWC_Speaks CWC Speaks], an article on [[CWCipedia]] where he [[ego|brags about his fluency]] in the language.
*[[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]]

==See also==
*[[Chris and English]]
*[[Heather Iglesias]], a [[homos|lesbian]] nanny who works for [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]

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Talk:Chris and Spanish

2017-05-29T04:29:40Z

Dasphillipbrau: /* Renaming */

==not Castellano==

Im removing the part which says Chris speaks castellano. Im a native spanish speaker and Chris DOES NOT speak castellano. He has neither the accent nor the vocabulary or the grammatical structure for castellano. In my country we always use the wrd "ascensor", thats not exclusive to Spain. Also chris uses "pendejo" as an insult and in its mexican form, he most likely speaks in a mexican dialect as 99% of americans who learned the language during high school.

As for his use of "pesetas" theres probably 2 explanations: chris doesnt realizes that theres a gazillion spanish dialects and so he just made a superficial search for spain and thought the currency was pesetas everywhere OR, the 2nd explanation: before the 21st century it was actually pretty common for people to use "pesetas" to describe really small quantiies of money (just like with "centimos" which was another currency). Even if the local currency wasnt pesetas. People would say "oh this costs 10 pesetas" to refer to "10 cents" and so.

Also i really dont think that cuban spanish is thaught in florida since its a very isolated dialect that will be almost useless outside of a cuban environment.

==Renaming==
*I see what you did there, Eamoo, and its great. i was thinking, wouldnt you want to rename the "Works in which CWC uses Spanish" for somethin else?, cuz of the mumble and okcupid--[[User:Rosechupenis|Rosechupenis]] 04:34, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Coincidentally, I had thought to make a Spanish page just earlier today. I didn't envision it so much as a list as an actual article, but that's still kinda spooky. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
*I have though about adding a section in chris and race for chris and other languages, but maybe could i put here?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
*The only other language Chris is even aware of as far as we know is Spanish. Put it here I suppose. Put a bit in Chris and Race too though. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
**though chris "uses" (and that's being generous) japanese in random random intervals, such as the -chan and -san and the shin all of which he knows nothing about what their meanings or uses are.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:24, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

==Merge==
We already have [[Ricardo Weston Chandler]] for this purpose. I suggest we merge the two pages. Perhaps it is more intuitive to make the page name "Spanish." Thoughts?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:26, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
*it would be a good idea since there isn't much we can work this out of.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
*I think we should make the pages more distinct from eachother. Make this page about Christian's abuse of the Spanish language and make the RWC page focus on the name itself. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
**I think that adding a section outlining Chris's abuse of the language will help the article, but it will remain a stub article. And the RWC article can't be elaborated on much more that it already is. I feel merging the articles will help them in this respect. [[User:Zephed|Zephed]] 21:34, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
***Hellz yeah. Merge the pages.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 15:31, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
****Merge dis bitch--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 00:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
*** I think that merging is a good idea. I made a start of an 'abuse of Spanish' section, but I didn't have the time or the expertise to get very specific. ---[[User:ConCat|ConCat]] 05:46, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

*Finally done. As I said before, I sorta intended the "Ricardo Weston Chandler" page to sorta work out to be this sort of page but this sort of page manages to capture what I had in mind in the first place. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

==Chris's "mastery" of Spanish/to do==
I'm not a big fan of the whole "Why Spanish Speakers Hate Chris" section as it's too vague. I suggest we document ''how'' exactly Chris fails at the Spanish language (mispronunciation, failure to add a tilda over "anos" so it means "anus," etc.) to underscore Chris's claims of his mastery of the language. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:i'll do that tonight. i'm a native speaker so i can point out all the flaws.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 11:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

==Accent==
Is it just me or does Chris have an extraordinarily thick American accent when he speaks spanish? Maybe we should add that to the article[[User:Banzai881|Banzai881]] 11:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

* How long did it take you to figure out that one? I'm pretty sure anyone who made it past middle school Spanish knows that Chris can't pronounce jack. No idea why it would need its own section. - [[User:Boop|Boop]] 18:22, 1 September 2010 (PDT)

== "As is common on the Northwest Coast" ==

Sauce? I'm not really sure that this is the case in the Pacific Northwest, and coming from the same region as Chris (Mid-Atlantic, NOT the South), I can tell you that the European dialect is NOT commonly taught in our region. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 18:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)