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Chris and his ego

2026-02-01T03:40:59Z

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{{Dated|[[Jail communications]], and details about the [[Idea Guys]] in the Naivete section}}
{{quote|Firstly, YOU WISH YOU WERE ME...|Chris, [[Mailbag 10#Rejected Mailbag|Mailbag 10 (Rejected)]].}}
{{quote|WELL, PRIDE IS NOT A SIN, FOR ONE NEEDS SOME SELF-ESTEEM AND CONFIDENCE TO MOTIVATE THEMSELVES AND INSPIRE OTHERS WITH SOUL AND HEART.|CPU Blue Heart distinguishing "pride" from "arrogance", ignoring that "pride" can have both a positive and negative connotation.<ref>[[:File:JailArt17.jpg]]</ref>}}

[[File:CWCnormanrockwell.jpg|thumb|right|A perfect rendition of our beloved author.]]

'''Egotism''' is the most important and self-destructive of [[Chris and his personality|Chris's flaws]]. It is because of this egotism that Chris got so many trolls and why he is never going to have a Sweetheart.

[[File:ChrisSlimeComicP2.jpg|Chris strokes his ego by having two of [[Ben Saint]]'s characters admire him.|thumb|250px]]

[[Image:SchuComic0P44.jpg|thumb|'''Egotism''', (noun): the belief that your pain (getting kicked out of the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|mall]] for being creepy) trumps all others (divorce and loss of a beloved wife, children, and home).]]

==Origins==
{{Quote|When you don't have people in your life pushing you, can you push yourself?|[[Raspberry Swirl|Tori Amos]]}}

Why is Chris such an egotist? In his sheltered childhood, his enabling parents taught him to [[Chris and remorse#Shifting blame|shift blame for all of his troubles]] to other people. A sense of entitlement, again homegrown, skewed his perception of the proportionality between his [[Stress|problems]] and those of other people. Chris doesn't completely lack empathy; he isn't a psychopath, but the internal 'scale' by which he weighs the importance of himself against that of others tilts far in his favor. The problem was compounded by his [[autism]], making it difficult for him to understand social cues and relate normally to his peers. Quite simply, [[Chris and reality#In the real world|he grew up in a different world.]]

But that explains why Chris ''was'' an egotist, ''struggled with'' egotism, or ''has tendencies towards'' egotism. While Chris's childhood was less than ideal, it shouldn't have been quite so crippling. Time and experience should have helped temper his ego, and his [[Cole Smithey|half-brother]] supposedly suffered far worse and still managed to make something of himself. His paternal half-siblings managed to acquire doctorate degrees, becoming an eye doctor and a math expert respectively. They were able to develop and learn from the past.

Chris's development isn't just delayed – it is arrested. His {{w|egocentrism}} has persisted well into his forties when most children usually grow out of it around age seven. Autism isn't to blame entirely; while autistic people's idiosyncrasies can make them appear self-centered on the surface, only a few are self-absorbed. Most still have interest in others, and many get help to develop coping strategies and social skills. Not Chris, though.

Chris is still an egotist because he lives in a social time capsule that has allowed him to carry on for over a decade without a single life lesson. And he still lives in that time capsule because it is easy, it is comfortable, and [[Enablers|people]] [[White-Knighting|let him]].

===The enablers===
{{incomplete|information on how his parents enabled Chris}}
[[File:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|Exhibit A.]]
{{quote|Drunk or not, they had me. At an old age where my mother was so close to menopause and my father was a senior citizen. I was truly a miracle.|Chris, [[Mumble 3]]}}

Chris' first enablers were his parents. Under their watch, Chris was pampered, enabled and shielded from any accountability.

It can also be said the school system was yet another enabler in Chris's formative years. This was especially true at [[Manchester High]]. Chris's parents and the principal helped arrange the [[gal-pals]]. This has resulted in Chris developing a rather warped view on women and friends; they let Chris believe they were legitimate friends, but in reality, they only stayed close with him out of pity and/or to protect him from bullies. [[Manchester High Leaks|Chris received passing grades on schoolwork he didn't do correctly]], yet still eventually graduated on [[honor roll]] (or so he says), presumably out of excessive pity on the teachers' part. Were that indeed the case, it might have encouraged Chris to put in less than [[Chris and work|half-baked effort into things]] and yet act like the end result is something spectacular.

===The Information Superhighway===
{{Main|Chris and the Internet|Computers}}

A member of the {{w|Xennials|Oregon Trail generation}}, Chris has made many significant memories before 1991, when the {{w|World Wide Web}} made Internet access feasible for the masses<ref>"World Wide Web" and "Internet" are often used interchangeably, but they are different services. The Internet is a network and protocol for connecting computers, dating back to the 1960's. The Web ''uses'' the Internet to transfer resources such as documents via URL's, invented in 1991. [[How To Talk To Girls|One is the magnet, and the other is the metal]].</ref>. However, he would use the Internet regularly by the time he left [[high school]]. Born in [[1982]], he came of age in [[2000]], placing his childhood in a different millennium from his adulthood. Windows XP came out soon after, and with it came a multitude of "prosumer" creative programs, giving Chris something to do after kissing his [[gal-pals]] goodbye.

With these new programs, Chris could record and share his own [[music]], publish his comics online, and even create his own [[DVD]]. These services were previously reserved for professionals who had access to expensive studio equipment, but they were now in the hands of the masses. Later in the decade, Chris became involved with [[YouTube]] and [[Facebook]], providing even more venues for self-publication. He no longer needed to wait for the [[Chris in the media|news media]] to notice him; he could ''be'' the media!

Chris joined YouTube much earlier than many more respected web-celebs, during a time when most people saw it as a silly cat video website, and not a viable career that people would genuinely desire having. But remember: this was Chris's closest brush with fame since the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|local]] [[Chris Chan in the PokéNews|news]].

===Blind luck and the cherry-picking fallacy===
[[Image:SlamAttack.jpg|thumb|Local Boy Levels Up.]]
[[Image:391-SchuPVCCArticle.jpg|thumb|left|Article in PVCC's ''Forum'', proof that some people have too much time on their hands.]]
[[Image:Famewhore.jpg|thumb|McIntire Park.]]

A [[GameStop Be A Star Sweepstakes|contest]] or [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|two]] here; a [[Chris Chan in the PokéNews|9-second local TV blip]] there. The results are that outside events most people never experience have stroked Chris's already monstrous ego.

Consider that Chris has produced a ''huge'' volume of fan mail, letters-to-the-editor, [[Internet]] commentary, and other drivel, partially because he doesn't have much else to do. Each letter to [[Nintendo]] is a message in a bottle: most of them never return, but the one that does - on an official letterhead, and addressed to Mr. C. W. Chandler - is confirmation of his celebrity.<ref>[[An Official Sonichu Update]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Yeah...it says here that, uh, yeah...they—th—it goes on to say that:

:"Nintendo of America has some of the most devoted, enthusiastic fans of any game developer. Each week, they receive, uh, hundreds of thousands of suggestions about their games and systems. While they would love to, uh, use ideas from f—fa—from fans to develop actual products, due to the volume of the, uh, requests they receive and the resources it would take to process them, they do not accept unsolicited game or product ideas. But they are committed to being at the leading edge of game and hardware development, though, and they can be sure that they are constantly at work developing new and exciting products and game ideas."

Now, uh, here's the interesting part...where they quote about how I can actually...go further about ch—about them changing their minds and actually accepting the idea and helping me, uh, makin' it—makin' it totally real...with the video games and the TV animations and the action figures, and...officially-released—my personally-approved... medals... ''[...]'' they say that, uh, the best way to let other fans know about my idea or to generate hype about the future game I'd like to see is to post the ideas to the forums on their sites.}} 

[[Honor roll|The concept of form letters does not seem to occur to Chris]], who seems to think the letter was written specifically for him. As if Chris didn't think his material was golden to begin with, he got a second nod from ''Nintendo Power'' for his epic [[Animal Crossing Documentary]], and a page in the [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]'s ''Forum'' is just icing on the cake. Even before his e-fame, Chris had plenty of evidence to convince himself that he ''was'' creative, and not just a high-volume, whiny jerk that had pestered his way to acknowledgment. As he graduated from PVCC in [[2006]], his writing shows that [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] was, in his mind, already tested: there was just some small threshold of notoriety or connections that needed to be breached, to become a true media sensation.

On top of that, Chris has a huge amount of free time to inject himself into situations like the [[McIntire Park]] meetings, which allows him to cherry-pick more moments of recognition. A tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment by the local council seems cute to us, but is serious business to him. And since Chris cherry-picks only the reinforcement that he wants, his legions of [[troll]]s just add to the fire. Delusion led him to believe that he had a legion of fans, for a time; a few hundred emails in his inbox confirmed it.

===Big fish, small pond===
Chris is a small town [[transgender|girl]], living in a [[Saddest Heart in the World|lonely world]]. Let's take a look at the cities of his life:

* [[Ruckersville]] is such a tiny place that it only has one other notable resident: NASCAR driver Philip Morris, who is no Jeff Gordon or Danica Patrick.
* The neighboring city of [[Charlottesville]] is mostly relevant for [[UVA]], the Monticello, and a handful of political rallies. It is a historic town, but it still has a small-town feel. It offers suburban conveniences like public parks, movie theaters, and a multitude of strip malls, but it lacks the hallmarks of a big city.
* Chris's teenage environment, suburban [[Richmond]], is much more robust. However, Chris had a very sheltered adolescence and experienced little of what growing up in a large metropolitan area usually entails. Richmond also suffers from being far from any other major cities (except for Washington, DC).

Chris rarely visits big cities that would quickly humble him. He lives in a very isolated world; his hometown has a smaller population than some high schools, and it isn't really known for up-and-coming artists. His main frame of reference was his classmates. Many of them took art as an elective, without any plans of becoming professionals.

Additionally, him "succeeding in spite of his [[autism]]" might have only been relevant because the smaller school population made him one of the few autistic kids in class. In reality, autism is a fairly common condition that's more-often-than-not quite manageable with the right help and support, and many autistic kids grow up to be successful autistic adults.

Despite not being conventionally popular, Chris peaked in [[high school]]. He bases most of his merit on his various HS accomplishments, and he talks about the time as if it were the time of his life. He considers himself bilingual because he took [[Spanish]]. He takes pride in the fact that his school displayed his work publicly, even though schools do that all the time. Chris's [[Comic Chris|comic book incarnation]] bears a strong resemblance to his high school self. Comic Chris doesn't wear [[glasses]] (the real Chris didn't wear them until 1998), and he's in good shape (much like HS Chris, likely because of gym class). Chris would often bring up his placement on the [[Honor Roll]] as proof of his intelligence, and his mental health would sharply decline after graduation.

Chris has taken his big fish mentality out of his small pond and transferred it to the large ocean of the [[Internet]], not knowing that it's filled with much larger [[trolls|sharks]].

One of Chris's <s>trolls</s> [[sweetheart]]s, [[Catherine]], suggested that he ought to move to a place like San Francisco or Seattle, or anywhere outside suburban Virginia. She told him that these places are more LGBT-friendly and have more job prospects, and that these West Coast cities have higher minimum wages and more robust benefit and rehabilitation programs for autistic folks. She had several major points, but Chris just told her "but there's no San Francisco in Virginia," completely missing all of them. Wanting to have his cake and eat it too, Chris chose to stay in his small-town Southeastern bubble because it's easier for him, yet he would clearly benefit from living in a more developed, liberal-minded area.

In the same conversation, Chris stated the real reason for not leaving is that he doesn't want to leave his mother behind. Chris even brought up that he doesn't want to move out of state after Barb dies.<ref>[[Cousin Al#Bowling Outing]]</ref>

Chris did acknowledge the perks of moving out of his valley, but it's only logical for him to move out. What is a person obsessed with fame and art doing in a place known for neither? Why does a loud-and-proud bisexual trans woman want to live in a place where most residents are massively homophobic and/or anti-trans? Why does the world's most documented autistic person want to live in an area that, by his own admission, doesn't understand autistic people? And why does someone who desperately wants a compatible partner limit himself to a tiny dating pool and then resort to long-distance troll dating, when there probably ''is'' someone for him in the Los Angeles area? And why, just why, does Chris want to treat his [[14 Branchland Court|dwelling]] as a temple for all to flock to, when it's so remote that Google Street View still doesn't cover it?<ref>Street view last checked 9 June 2021</ref>

Because it's easy to be a big fish in a small pond, even after pissing off the other fish and getting [[banned]] from your favorite hangouts.

Self-aggrandizing is fairly common in the family, and they can generally get away with it because of the small-town mentality. Chris's family loves to bring up [[Bob]]'s injection molding patent. He claims that we wouldn't even have a simple water bottle without it. In reality, {{w|plastic injection molding}} was invented before Bob was born. The Wikipedia article doesn't even mention Bob. All he designed was a control panel for one specific machine that has become obsolete for decades. If Bob didn't design it, [[Asperchu|someone else would have]]. Even Cole Smithey, who managed to escape the Weston-Chandler household as a young adult and go on to have a fairly successful career, bills himself as "The smartest film critic in the world".

==Chris and narcissism==
{{quote|I, was mistaken, but not wrong|Chris<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/November_2017_Facebook_posts#Mistaken_about_being_linked_with_Uzume</ref>}}
[[Image:Narcissus.jpg|thumb|A [[TRUE and HONEST]] depiction of narcissism.]]

It's unlikely that Chris actually suffers from {{w|narcissistic personality disorder}} (although [[Barbara Chandler|it's likely that someone else in his family]] does). While extreme self-centeredness and egotism is often conflated with the term 'Narcissism', NPD is also an existing mental condition characterized by more factors, such as emotional manipulation or split personalities for different people. Given the fact that Chris himself is too stupid to actually emotionally manipulate anyone, let alone [[Chris and manipulation|avoid getting continually manipulated himself,]] Chris most likely isn't a narcissist in the real sense. However, it's possible that Barbara, who did employ plenty of abusive NPD-like traits such as suicide-baiting, might have influenced Chris's behavior in some ways. Chris actually mentioned, in a theatrical manner, considering suicide on his facebook posts several times, [[June 2014 Facebook Posts#And It Begins...|even for something as inconsequential as]] [[Sonic Boom Protests|Sonic the Hedgehog's arms being recolored blue]]. Another noticeable aspect is Chris's need to shove his own name, initials and [[Sonichu (character)|creations]] every chance he gets, specially other people's works, if it guarantees fame.

That said, while a lot of factors like his relentless attention-whoring or his lack of empathy coincide with symptoms of the Disorder, factors of his ego were mostly results of his shitty upbringing and awful luck for winning contests giving him a huge sense of self-importance. Not to mention [[Chris and kindness|his lack of empathy for others]] was also partly caused by his autism. If Chris ''does'' have NPD, he likely has a [[Slow in the minds|low functioning]] variant of the disorder, and it may be hard to delineate his potential NPD symptoms from established ASD ones. [http://samvak.tripod.com/journal72.html Further reading is required to confirm the difference.]

==Manifestations==
Chris's egotism manifests itself in a variety of ways.

===Unwarranted self-importance===
[[Image:Apology to Mary Lee.jpg|thumb|Very gracious.]]
{{See also|True and Loyal Fanbase}}
{{quote|I have had way over a million fans worldwide since I went online in before [[2000]].|-Chris, [[Mailbag 48]].}}

As overwhelming as Chris's unwarranted self-importance is, it's easy for the novice [[troll|observer]] to get lost in the sea of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' shit and assume that he's just confident in his e-fame. "Of course," you say, "he's got a billion hits on [[YouTube]] and a thousand emails in his mailbox. He's going to think he's hot shit, like every other [[Unholy Quintet|laughed-at-not-with dumbass]] on the [[DeviantArt|internet]]".

But nothing sums up Chris's deep and abiding USI like this missive to [[Mary Lee Walsh]]:<ref>[[Mary Lee Walsh#Emails with Mary|Emails with Mary]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Mary, I've slept on it, and [[Chris's Wikipedia profile#The Continuing, Enduring Search|I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention]]. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following:

*I will never hang notes on the wall again.
*I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.
*I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points (0=No Respect...10=Respect).

Please reply via E-Mail.

Christian C.}}

E-fame just adds a whole new dimension. He was a misunderstood genius before; now he's a misunderstood genius with a personal army:

{{quote|III'M. WOR-KIN'. ON IT! LET ME DO THAT STUPID VIDEO SO I CAN TELL E'RRYBODY, IN MY COMMAND, TO GET EVERYTHIN'- HELP ME GET EVERYTHIN' OFF THE INTERNET!|Chris, [[THAT IS MY HOUSE]]}}

It's so bad that when Chris meets someone new who claims not to know who he is, he seems skeptical and surprised.<ref>Exchange with the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Meet the Pickle .2801:21:44 - 01:25:29.29|Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>

{{quote|Y'all should know me by now, but if you don't, I am Christian Weston Chandler, the original creator of Sonichu, the Electric Hedgehog Pokemon, back on March 17th, 2000.|Chris, in his [[CWC's Second Message|second YouTube video]]}}

The instant gratification, instant acknowledgment, and instant attention - good or bad - that has come with his minor e-fame of the last few years has thoroughly convinced Chris that people ''do'' read everything he writes, and that his YouTube messages ''invariably'' get to his target audience.

{{quote|I realize I am famous like a princess|Chris on Twitter in October 2017}}

{{quote|Notable resident in Ruckersville, VA alongside a NASCAR racer, and about the 29,000th most popular individual in this world, so where is the Wikipedia Article about me? ⚡️💙⚡️|Chris on Twitter in August 2018}}

He also describes himself as "managing the varsity team"<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_22]</ref> in high school, when actually he was a waterboy.

But if, even after all of this, you're ''still'' not convinced that Chris has unwarranted self-importance issues, consider this little tidbit: he posted autographed pictures of himself on [[eBay]]. Looking like [[:File:Chris-chan 010714.JPG|this]], [[Chris and health#Hygiene|no less]]. Make of that what you will.

===Fixation on self-image===
Chris has created many avatars of himself through several mediums.

<center><gallery>
File:CWCPOGS.jpeg|As pogs.
File:Comic CWC.PNG|[[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)]].
File:Chris Lego.jpg|As a Lego figure.
File:ThreePieceSetA.jpg|''Super Smash Bros.'' avatar for Christian.
File:ThreePieceSetC.jpg|''Super Smash Bros.'' avatar for Christine.
File:AmiiboSet.jpg|As [[Sonichu Amiibo|Amiibos]]. From left to right, Christian, Chris-chan Sonichu, Christine. Chris sold these through [[Etsy]].
File:Lego Christines.png|Another Lego figure of his 2015 [[Tomgirl]] self.
File:Cwc and vinyl dolls at Cville Pride 2016.jpg|[[Christine Doll]], pictured on left.
File:Chris skylanders avatar.jpg|''Skylanders'' avatar.
File:Skylanders swag.png|A shirt, card and 3D figure of his ''Skylanders'' avatar, costing him $90 from the company.
File:Cwc transformer1.jpg|As a Transformer.
File:Miss Night Star.jpeg ‎|As a ''[[My Little Pony|MLP]]'' character.
File:Christine Night Weston Star Chandler.jpg|It's just getting ridiculous.
File:Chris, Night Star Equestria Girls Mini dolls3.jpg|Christine Doll 2.0, next to Night Star, both blatant self-inserts.
File:ChrisFunkos.jpg|As Funkos.
File:Chris's ego, TSSSF card.jpg|As a [[TSSSF]] card featuring many of his self-inserts.
</gallery></center>

===Persecution complex===
[[Image:Issue4.jpg|thumb|Saint Christian the Martyr, [[(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise|walking through the valley of the shadow of death]].]]

Chris has a lot of problems, and even the ones he "takes responsibility for" are still "out of his hands". His [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|school]] was [[Kick the Autistic|mean to him]], he didn't deserve that [[Song of Christian|F in English]] or the one in [[CADD Chef|CADD]], ''and'' he doesn't deserve the 24/7 [[trolls|trolling]], among other things.

And if that wasn't enough, he thinks every authority figure in the land is conspiring against his [[Love Quest]]:

{{quote|Then in Mid-October, the Quote/Unquote "Dean of Student Services," Mary Lee Walsh, approached me and pulled my sign away from me and told me, "You're NOT ALLOWED TO FIND TRUE LOVE HERE." MY HEART WAS SHATTERED that very moment.|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Enter_the_Wicked_Witch_of_the_Private_Villa_of_Corrupted_Citizens|Wikipedia userpage]]}}

Compounding this was him also having to deal with a [[Family Guy|quagmire]] of a war against the [[homo]] rumors that those DAMNED TROLLS kept spreading about him, with a second front versus the [[Chris and copyright|copyright]]-violating [[Liquid Chris|thieves]].

{{quote|It's out of my control! I don't know where to go! I DUNNO KNOW WHERE TA GO!|Chris, [[THAT IS MY HOUSE]].}}

A great example of Chris's persecution complex is the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video, where Chris blamed the Greene County's school board for pretty much every misfortune in life - from being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] to becoming the social outcast that we all know and tolerate - thereby cementing the notion that Chris will never take responsibility for his actions. One of the only times Chris ever actually stepped up and admitted responsibility was when he [[Stardate, August 27, 2010|accidentally erased]] his [[PS3]]'s data.

===Naïveté===
{{Main|Naïve}}

Chris's simple-mindedness and gullibility are legendary. Like [[George W. Bush]], he only deals in absolutes: either you're with him or you're against him. This has been very obvious in his answers to the [[Mailbag]], where he refuses to listen to any talk — even from professionals — about the similarities between [[Asperger's syndrome]] and autism, denies that there are any shortcomings in his work, and shrugs off any advice about how to improve his health or appearance, labeling anyone who suggests he has any kind of shortcoming a troll.

Chris equates honesty with [[Honest Content|divulging every last detail about his life]]. Nothing is too candid for Chris - getting haircuts, drinking his own [[semen]], [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitting his pants]], [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|having incestuous dreams]], or even giving away his phone number and home address. The only thing he ''hasn't'' done with wild abandon is give away his social security number, and when that happens, it won't be a surprise to anybody.

His gullibility is astounding. No matter how many times it's happened before, Chris is easily led around by trolls promising [[china]], threatening his identity, and - most damaging of all - playing into his otherworldly delusions and fantasies. The earlier trolling schemes (such as [[Blanca]], [[PandaHalo]] and [[Jimmy Hill]]) got Chris to jump through hoops and exposed so much information about Chris and his personality that they had to start [[CWCki|this very wiki]] to keep track of it all. Another example of Chris's gullibility is one Miss [[Jackie|Jacklyn Romy]], a 'sweetheart' Chris met earlier in 2011. Despite her obviously being a troll (proven by a mysterious leak of videos that were sent only to Jackie on [[February 2012]]), and her having him produce [[Forgot the Glitter|many]] [[Cakefarts|embarrassing]] [[Who's Your Brony?|videos]], Chris would continually renew his relationship with her.

In [[2009]] and [[2010]], Chris slowly began to "learn" to distrust trolls or to keep more of his [[PSN|information]] secure. However, many of his trolls believe this is akin to putting a shock collar on an [[Patti|animal]]. Eventually, to stop being shocked (not because they actually understand or care) an animal will start doing as it is told.

Over the years, however, Chris's gullibility would come back in varying ways, reaching a boiling point in [[2017]] when the [[Idea Guys]] got a hold of him. As it turned out, the easiest way to exploit Chris's gullibility was to appeal to his habit of [[Chris and coping|escapism]], especially during the [[Financhu Crisis|general turmoil]] he faced around the time. The Idea Guys heavily exploited him by near-permanently altering his [[CWCville|fantasy world]] and state of mind, with their effects so harsh that even when their iron grip was let go the following year, Chris continues to believe [[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris|the things they put into his head]]. Most infamously, he now believed he was a [[CPU Blue Heart|goddess]] - and later on, the outright reincarnation of [[Messiah complex|Jesus Christ]] - who would bring forth a [[dimensional merge]] on the world that, among other things, would take care of problems like his financial debt.

===Hubris: the pride before the fall===
[[File:Mother's day 2018 2.jpg|thumb|It's fair to say that Chris is a bit of a narcissist.]]
{{quote|I'd say... I'd say I'm all around. You see, the problem is that I have too many skills that I am good at. You might say that I am a jack of all trades and a master of none.|Chris, [[Mumble 3|right about that last part]]}}

Numerous times, Chris has shown that he believes he has powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal [[slow-in-the-minds|autistics]]. In fact, so much so that this attitude has transcended mere hubris, instead it more resembles mental illness: not only is Chris convinced that his [[Chris and writing|writing]], [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys|musical]] [[Guitar Hero|talents]], and [[She Came for CWC|art]] are without peer, he also believes he has supernatural powers along the lines of [[Chris and religion|Wicca or Voodoo]].

And he doesn't just have the power to create: his is also the power to destroy. This line of thinking is exemplified by Chris's acceptance that [[Ryan Cash]] committed suicide just because he withheld ''Sonichu'' updates, and would worsen when he believed that his [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] actually caused [[Liquid Chris]] and Mary Lee Walsh to have some sort of horror befall them.

But those are just the most insane moments of cognitive dissonance. What about the time he went into hysterics when he didn't get recognition for his art at his high school graduation?

{{quote|I should have been Highly Recognized for my ARTISTIC TALENTS I showed in my Many Art Classes for the Award Ceremonies before Graduation Day. I felt crestfallen greatly from not getting recognized for any of my Talents. I EXCELLED IN MATH TOO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|Wikipedia page]] not realizing that public schools display students' art all the time.}}

Or his reaction to losing the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|PaRappa contest]]?

{{quote|So that SWORN ON MY AUTISM, JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED TO THE SEVEN PEOPLE OF THOSE FOUR VIDEOS!!!!|Chris, on the [http://web.archive.org/web/20070830114517/http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm Sonichu Site]}}

[[Image:How chris sees himself.jpg|thumb|What Chris sees when he looks in the mirror.]]

All of the above is consistent with the behavior of small children, who, isolated from the real world by a lack of comprehension and limited mobility, believe themselves to be godlike beings. This belief is gradually destroyed as the child goes to school and encounters outside authority, leading to their acknowledgment of the fact that they are, in fact, ordinary people. Of course, since Chris is not only autistic but also extremely sheltered, he still manages to cling to this belief by focusing on specific aspects of his life and constructing elaborate fantasy worlds. This is also probably why he sees mundane [[chores]] as [[Father Call|horrific trials of strength and will]]. In psychological terms, this can be referred to as ''psychological neoteny'', which is basically the retention of juvenile traits well into physical maturity.

Also consistent with his childlike mindset is his apparent belief that he has supernatural powers. In Freudian terms, this is referred to as ''omnipotence of thought''. Basically, in the same way he does with religion, Chris cherry-picks elements of his life to validate his fantasy of control, which is more systematically displayed in the Sonichu comics. Taking this into consideration, it's likely that [[Magi-Chan]] is yet another Mary Sue for Chris, serving as a kind of avatar for his desire for ultimate authority. Why he felt it necessary to make [[Reginald Sneasel|yet]] another [[Sonichu (character)|character]] to fill this role is unclear, considering he's already established [[Chris-chan Sonichu|himself]] as the one true God of CWCville.

Another aspect of Chris's arrogance, and again caused by his childish way of viewing [[Virginia|the world]], is visible in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9|a phone call]] with Alec Benson Leary, creator of [[Asperchu]]. In the call, it is obvious Chris does not follow a mature procedure for developing a stance on issues. Where normally an individual will learn information about the issue and from there decide how they feel about that issue, Chris does it the other way around and decides how he feels about something, then refuses to believe, understand, or even humor any evidence to the contrary. While most people have very strong beliefs in some issues, so much so that they automatically have a prejudice against people believing differently (e.g. [[Barack Obama|politics]], [[religion]], etc.), Chris has this perspective on everything. He takes a position on matters, then finds ways to back it up and ignores all evidence for the opposing viewpoint. This is called a ''{{w|confirmation bias}}''. For example, Chris has decided homos are bad, so he selectively finds [[Leviticus|information]] that backs up his stance on the matter and ignores anything anyone will tell him about why his homophobia is bad and makes him a bad person. He will then go as far as to pretend he can [[Sonichu_10#Curing_Da_Homos|cure homosexuality]] with his own blood. Unless disliking homosexuals means he [[I'm Sorry, Dude|may not get laid]].

This is most apparent when he takes two contrary positions about a similar topic. The obvious example of this is Chris's understanding of the way [[parody]] functions. Chris will defend his right to make Sonichu to the hilt by claiming it is a parody, but he then states that Asperchu is a bad thing because it is "a parody of a parody". As you can see, Chris has decided that he has every right to make Sonichu so he backs this up with statements about his right to parody existing trademarked characters, but conversely he has decided Asperchu is bad, so he supports this position by stating it is a parody of his legitimate work.

A literal example of the 'pride before the fall' would be Chris's series of [[Facebook]] posts between April and June of 2012. In [[April 2012]], Chris believed that he had utterly fooled the trolls when he made a [[Facebook#to_.40cogsdev_from_me.2C_.40CWCSonichu|series]] [[Facebook#Maniacal_Laughter_from_Who_now.3F_Oh.2C_wait.2C_It_Is_ME.21_.3E8D|of]] [[Facebook#Hey.2C_Trollies|posts]] mocking them. He even went so far as to post screenshots of the CWCki forum members talking about it. Note that in several of the screenshots, Chris believed that he had uncovered a scheme to start a poster campaign about him in [[Charlottesville]]. According to his [[Facebook#To_The_Trolls|Facebook post dated 4 June 2012,]] he had called the [[Jerkops|cops]], and basically admitted that he completely fell for it. He then recorded an [[Voicemail_greeting#4_June_2012|angry voicemail greeting]] before quickly deleting it. Compared to [[Voicemail_greeting#30_April_2012|an earlier voicemail he made]], one can clearly see how humbled he was.
[[File:The Captain congratulates Chris for 'providing a good service'.png|thumb|right|In [[Sonichu Special 5]], Chris found a way to twist a situation in which he was [[Guard Dogs|being helped]] into Chris himself doing the helping, ending up with him receiving praise from [[The Captain|a fictionalised version of one of the people trying to help him out]].]]

A more recent example of Chris's pride and ego superseding the efforts of people around him can be seen in [[Sonichu Special 5]], in which [[The Captain]] vociferously praises Chris, flanked by [[Sonichu (character)|his]] [[Rosechu (character)|creations]] - for 'provide[ing] a good service to us all in this world', when in reality, the opposite was true; Chris had been manipulated by the Idea Guys, and The Captain, a member of the [[Guard Dogs]], was the actual person providing said services in attempting to break Chris free of their influence.

===Materialism===
{{quote|I want Julie! Yeah, love is my first priority, but then- but then I want my stuff back!|Chris, caring more about his precious PSN Account and Sonichu website than his [[troll|sweetheart]].}}

It is clear that Chris is a materialist (a common symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder), buying and hoarding large amounts of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|crap]] that make him feel good about himself. He may even believe that his unhealthy amount of children's toys might attract a [[sweetheart]], when any human being would clearly see that this man is delusional. He also doesn't seem to have a problem with getting money for sitting on his ass, claiming he can get more from his tugboat than he could at an actual job. He has [[Chris and money|absolutely no concept of money]], and believes he is entitled to everything he can buy. This stems from childhood, when Barbara would take Chris to the toy store and encourage him to talk by giving him toys if he could read their names out loud.<ref>See [[1980s#1989|1989 in Christory]]</ref> Ever since, he's believed that just by being autistic, he deserves everything he can get his grubby hands on.

This mixture of compulsive hoarding, compulsive shopping, and autism is bad news all the way. He's compulsively hoarded all of his toys and video games because he wants to give them to [[Crystal_Weston_Chandler_(daughter)|his daughter]] in the future. He also seems to enjoy collecting things, which may explain why Pokémon appeals to him. Chris compulsively bought everything he could on the PS3, and is more concerned with trophies than actual gameplay. Most of the games he's downloaded have never been played, but the important thing is that he ''has'' it. Hoarding items in cases other than OCD is a sign of [[Slow-in-the-minds|intellectual disability]] in older children. He may have inherited this behavior from his parents, especially Barb. Not even a [[2014 house fire|house fire that set most of his items ablaze]] or [[Jail Saga|getting exiled from said house]] can stop his hoarding habits.

===Tender misanthropy===
A "tender misanthrope" is, by definition, "someone who despises humanity in general, but is ever ready to make an exception for the ''real'' people". In other words, an egotist who pretends to be benevolent. While it's obvious that Chris is an egotist, he truly believes that he's benevolent. He is the perfect example of a tender misanthrope, screaming [[death threats]] at what he knows of humanity (seeing as the only social contact he gets is from the [[Internet]]) while also believing that he is a kind, loving person who can [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|give advice]] and [[Pedofork|act as a role model for children]].

Another part of the definition states that "a tender misanthrope feels certain of being able to love real people if only they could be found - or, failing that, to transform existing false people into idealized ''real'' people through social and political programs of the tender misanthrope's own making". The way that Chris treats [[homos]], seeing as he hates them all ([[Mailbag_53#Well,_that_makes_everything_better!|no matter what he says]]) and wants to turn them straight by placing them into co-ed prisons, reprogramming them into straights via concentration camps, or by creating a vaccine that "cures" homosexuality, certainly fits this description. The fact that he also generalizes trolls as homos also support this. If that does not convince you that Chris feels he can make people into what he can emotionally attach himself to, there are also other obvious examples in his unique delivery of his intentions.

===Disregard of rules of conduct online===
{{Main|Chris and the Internet}}
{{quote|DO NOT DELETE, NOR CENSOR, MY BOMBASTIC PROTEST!!!!!!|Chris, in [[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#4 September|Encyclopedia Dramatica]].}}

Chris has little regard for the rules of online communities; when he joins up on websites, he tends to do things his way. He assumes that his own niche in these websites is under his absolute control: for example, he assumed that [[Wikipedia]] would allow him to post anything on his personal user page, or that Encyclopedia Dramatica would remove material critical to him if he just asked nicely. Sites like [[deviantART]] and [[YouTube]] allow community participation; Chris simply disallowed comments, or later on, just ignored every comment he received. Chris also assumes that when other people host websites for him (in case of [[CWCipedia]]), he's given the final say on all matters. His record for getting permabanned is currently at two weeks on [[Flipnote Hatena]] when he foolishly tried to re-upload Flipnotes that had been removed for breaking the rules (without bothering to find out why they had been removed in the first place). His Facebook account encountered a cycle in [[July 2015]] where it would be removed and put back up again; some of Chris's posts contained sexual content, such as photos of lizards mating, thumbnails of lesbian sex, screenshots of sexting, and a drawing in which he was drenched in lemonade through a [[china]]-shaped lemon - which he even ''bragged'' about how his [[Trolls|haters]] would be offended by it.

If Chris is banned from a website, he will often simply make a new account to circumvent it - even if this violates the website's rules, which is another thing he refuses to accept. Similarly, if he is blocked by somebody he wants to talk to, he might even construct [[Night Star|a fake account under the guise of one of his OCs]] to bypass the block.

===Surrendering Information===
{{Main|Honest Content}}

If there is one thing that Chris's ego would simply not allow, it's suppressing himself from giving away too much information about himself. If he feels that bragging about something would give him a one-up against the trolls or make himself look good, he'll freely announce it for everyone to hear. The most glaring example of this is this entire wiki, which was created using a lot of information provided by Chris himself. Back in the day, Chris viewed himself as an extremely popular internet celebrity with a 'true and loyal fanbase', and, as such, would divulge a lot of information about himself so people would know him better (inclusive of [[Dox|personal information]] that nobody in their right mind would give away). However, there are times when he would do the opposite and [[Honest Content|surrender information that would make him look horrendously bad]], sometimes without provocation. His enthusiastic revelation of his own [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal incontinence]] is the shining example of this.

Whilst this practice has diminished in recent times, with Chris making himself scarce out of fear that trolls would have more [[Tomgirl Pictures|ammo]] to use against him, his habit of needlessly surrendering information still manages to surface. For example, when he claimed to [[Mia Hamm|lose his virginity]], he couldn't help but announce it on his Facebook page, all the while swearing up and down that he would never divulge any details about it to the trolls. Mere weeks later, more details emerged on Facebook, leading to speculation that he actually bought a hooker (since we all know the [[Megan|inevitable]] [[Kacey|end]] result of his Sweetheart Search), which he ended up confirming on 1 May, (along with attending a ''MythBusters'' tour, something which wasn't even brought up but still revealed anyway) all the while claiming to remain button-lipped on the matter. Only time would tell if and when Chris finally reveals everything to silence his naysayers. After all, it wouldn't be the first time it's happened. Sure enough, in December 2014, a leaked account of Chris's experience with the hooker was released on the [[Kiwi Farms]]. He just never learns.

In 2013, Chris's habit of needlessly surrendering information returned with a vengeance. Chris threw a temper tantrum on Facebook, and many would have assumed that it was [[Chris and Anger|business as usual]], ''until'' Chris made the fatal mistake of revealing the reason why he went on the warpath; somebody had uploaded his status updates (complete with the ones that were hidden) onto [http://imgur.com/a/1HYJJ an Imgur account.] Aside from the usual whining about how lonely he was, these screencaps not only revealed what he was up to in the silence between 2011 and 2013, but also uncovered a very ugly side of Chris. One post, in particular, revealed that he was angry at the fact that [[Mimms]] had a girlfriend, and demanded that somebody should ''kill her'', simply because Mimms was a "JERK." The fact remains that the one who revealed all of this unsavory information was not the trolls, as Chris would try to have you believe, but ''himself.''

The next year, Chris encountered a man trying to put out a brush fire near his house. However, he believed he was trying to make it even worse, and thus uploaded the [[Brushfire Video]], wherein he wound up dropping the address of the [[Rental House]] in the video title.

In 2021, this would eventually prove to be Chris's ultimate downfall. In late [[July 2021]], Chris told [[Bella]] that he had [[Affair with Mother|sexual intercourse with Barbara Chandler, his own ''mother'']], even going so far as to describe the acts in [[Honest Content|uncomfortably graphic detail]]. One would think that Chris, [[Chris and reality|being in the highly delusional state that he was in at the time]], could have easily been dismissed here, ''until'' he confirmed that it was all true when pressed for the truth by [[Dillin Thomas]]. As a consequence, many horrified listeners immediately contacted law enforcement, as incest is a Class 5 Felony in Virginia. Even more consequences would follow: Chris was removed from his home via an [[Emergency Protective Order]] and became the center of a humongous media circus that even had [[Ween|weens]] tracking him down in real-life, resulting in his eventual arrest on stream on the 1 August 2021.

===Fishing for sympathy===
{{quote|I... am so... smart! And yet I still have to- still learn everyth- I still n- have so much to learn.<ref>[[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content]]</ref>}}

In many conversations with Chris, there have been quite a few instances where he would outright fish for sympathy, in the hopes that people would take pity on him and, in so doing, make him feel better about himself. One such example is the [[Father Call]], where Chris constantly talks about the "trials and tribulations" in his life to an unimpressed [[Matthew Devoria]], from whom he was trying to seek approval to date his daughter; said "trials and tribulations" amounted to housework and being teased on the internet, which Chris felt was on par with Matthew carrying his dead friend's body during the war. In his [[Jackie_E-mails_23|later E-mail exchanges]] with Jackie, Chris is quick to paint himself as a misunderstood victim whenever Jackie rips him a new one over issues such as his habit of [[Lie|lying]], being a hypocrite and even being [[Women%27s_rights|inconsiderate towards her]]. Even in recent times, he has not cut out this habit, with his Facebook and Twitter entries blaming his trolls for making his life a living hell, one in particular lamenting that nobody cares about him except for his own mother.

The attention he gets from his mother, Barbara Chandler (and his friend, Anna McLerran) is textbook mollycoddling at best. Chris has spent his entire life being catered to by his parents (notably well past the point of social acceptance), to the point where he depends on them to bail him out of the [[Money#Credit_cards|numerous]] [[The_Game_Place|messes]] he gets himself into. It comes as no surprise, then, that this, combined with his [[autism|being autistic]], has poisoned Chris's mind into thinking that this is how everybody should treat him, by default. And if people don't see things his way, he'll be more than happy to point out the heavy burdens he faces daily, almost as if he expects them to instantly take back their mean, mean words and feel sorry for him.

The habit of wanting sympathy is so ingrained in Chris that he instinctively hedges when he makes a positive statement about himself. An example is from a video in which he said, "I am so smart," and immediately followed by downplaying it and saying he still had much to learn.

==War against the ego==
One of the main forces opposing Chris's ego are the [[White-Knighting|white knights]]. These misguided souls have attempted to get Chris to understand that what he's doing is ridiculous and that he needs to grow up. Instead, he brushed them all aside, assuring himself that he was TRUE and HONEST, and could do no wrong. One of the more popular white knights, [[Vivian Gee]], [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|became a troll]] when she couldn't get through to Chris.

When asked to get [[Chris and psychology|real, psychiatric help]], Chris has said that his church counselor, [[Rocky Shoemaker]], is enough for him, and that she could do so much more than someone with ''an actual degree in that field.'' He seems to believe that because her title includes the word "counselor," she is every bit as qualified as a real doctor (the fact that most pastoral counselors see people for free probably helps as well, since Chris would never spend part of his precious monthly tugboat on something useful when there are video games to buy).

There were even some instances where it seemed that the trolls had made a breakthrough by [[Heart level|breaking Chris]], only for him to get right back up again and continue with his antics. An example of this would be Kacey, who led Chris on for a while until she dropped the bombshell that she was going to marry Liquid Chris, but not before having her father point out every single thing that is wrong with Chris. A normal person would have been utterly devastated by this turn of events, and some would even use the experience to better themselves. Chris, on the other hand, perked right up when he [[Red_Letter_CWC_Certified_Day|obtained a letter 'validating' Sonichu]], forgetting about Kacey in mere days, just like she had predicted.

==Examples of Chris's ego in the real world and in the comic==
[[File:Sonichu - Episode 18, Page 9.jpg|thumb|[[Jiggliami]] sums it up nicely.]]
{{Main|Examples of Chris's Ego}}

==References==
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Michael Snyder

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{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}



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| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

He is also infamous for effectively [[Touching the Poop]] himself, dragging his store's name into further disrepute by taunting Chris back and interacting with his posts, rather than handling Chris' and his grievances outside of the public eye.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
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==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account owned by Michael Snyder. The account was created on 12 [[April 2010]] - the same day Chris uploaded [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]] - and its name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold. While there are least two accounts under said name on RC toy forums that suggest this was genuine, one cannot rule out the high possibility of trolls impersonating him to send unprofessional, weening-type messages. Due to the lack of proper archiving, and YouTube not having introduced handles yet, it is not possible to confirm whether each message was actually his. Thus, everything said must be taken with a grain of salt.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior for a supposed manager.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Dodo Conservative: Unsure - confused myself to the point I'm abstaining. Sorry

{{quote|Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it|''Jonathan Swift''<ref>https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?title=A%20Modest%20Proposal%20and%20Other%20Prose&author=J%20Swift&publication_year=2004&</ref>}}
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==[[Affair with Mother]]==

*Many have come to believe that Chris had sexually assaulted his own mother when the news came out that he has had an incestuous affair with her following the leak of the infamous [[Incest Call]]. This notion would be perpetuated by several YouTubers and news panels, sometimes indirectly by claiming that Barb has dementia. Despite this, Chris has only ever been charged with "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD"<ref group = note>This charge appears to be used for all instances of parent-child and grandparent-grandchild incest at the jail Chris was sent to, probably due to character limits in the charge descriptions, as well as the fact that the text was likely generated from the numeric code for the offense.</ref> after this affair, and was never officially charged for rape or sexual assault.

Along with that, claims that Barbara had dementia had primarily came from begging videos where she could be playing up her frailty to elicit pity for money. (See: [[CWCki:Gossip#Barbara Chandler|Barbara Chandler]]). Therefore, whether or not this affair was entirely consensual is inconclusive.

==[[Anaxis]]==
*It is sometimes stated that Anaxis is female as a result of being referred to by she/her pronouns. However, this was only when he role-played as the character [[Lainchu]], who is female.


==[[Autism]]==
*It is common for observers to attempt to diagnose Chris as having "more than just autism", speculating what other types of disabilities or disorders he may have.
**It is also common to suggest that Chris couldn't possibly be autistic because of his sex drive, or conversely that the Love Quest is his way of overcompensating for the lack thereof. While asexuality (a lack of attraction to other people sexually, which isn't necessarily the same as a low sex drive, since asexuals can masturbate to pure sensation) is more common among autistic people, it is far from universal.
**Chris's lack of singing ability has been occasionally attributed to his autism. While a lack of control of inflections, or standard presentation thereof, is a common trait of autistic ''speech'', autistic people are actually more likely to excel in analyzing, hearing, imagining ("audiation"), and producing exact pitches, and are more likely to have perfect pitch.
**Some people claim that Chris was self-diagnosed. His [[Autism papers]] differ.
**Many also view mild autism as being synonymous with mild intellectual disability. However, autistics are often of normal or high intelligence. Chris's IQ is unknown.
**Chris has occasionally been accused of having a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Such a condition has neither been confirmed or denied. While Chris has occasionally hinted at believing cartoon characters to be real, he does clearly separate that "reality" from the actual reality by acknowledging them as existing in a separate dimension. While him seeing the characters might sound like Chris hallucinating, further analysis reveals that Chris is simply imagining them.
***While Chris post-jail has exhibited what some have identified as side-effects of ''anti''psychotics (such as mild sedation, rapid weight gain after losing most of it in prison, twitches that can't be explained as stims, etc.), those drugs are often prescribed as mere tranquilizers to people for a variety of reasons, including as an elective treatment for autistic irritability, and Chris never confirmed or denied taking them anyway.

==[[Autism disorder deferred disposition]]==
*Though Chris was dismissed from the case regarding his affair with Barb accounting for his autism, it should be noted he wasn't found innocent either. The records regarding the full scope of the case are sealed.

==[[Bailey Jay]]==
*It is often rumored that Chris was actually not disgusted by Bailey at all, and in fact was hitting on her. This appears to come from the fact that Chris still called her "pretty", even after discovering she was a "[[hermaphrodite]]", and the rather vague way he responded to her apologizing for accidentally sending him more nude photos after his initial shock. Though this isn't entirely impossible, it also hasn't been fully proven that this was the case.

==[[Barbara Chandler]]==
*Gossipers often speculate on whether Barbara has dementia, mainly based on occasional begging videos directed by Chris from the mid-2010s where she appears to have delayed speech or lapses in memory. However, such videos offer an incomplete and warped perspective of Barbara, as background context - such as how coherent Chris was in explaining what he wanted filmed - is unknown. In contrast, videos where Barbara either [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017|walked in on a livestream]] or was [[Chris Chan VS. The Internet|interviewed without Chris's involvement]] show her as more cognizant. Other glimpses at Barbara's life from that point on show her handling her own [[debt]] better than Chris,<ref>Despite owing more than Chris, she has avoided garnishment filings unlike Chris</ref> managing her own doctor appointments,<ref>[[The Place chats (November 2020)#Chris's Body Shakes]]</ref> and even reminding Chris of his own debt hearing,<ref>[[Other chats leaked by Naught (September 2020)#Debt hearing, toys, Merge]]</ref> all of which points against the dementia theory. In August 2019, Chris claimed Barbara did not have dementia.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Barb ain't dead yet + Magi-Chan's likes]]</ref>

==[[Bob Chandler]]==
*Bob's rather complicated relationship with Chris is often times simplified into either being entirely good or entirely bad.
**It is sometimes stated that Bob had stopped caring about Chris at some point in his life, and only showed concern for his involvement with trolls for his own purposes. Such instances of this include supposedly paying Chris's high school gal-pals for their time with Chris, as well as his [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|intervention with Chris]] when trolls leaked their address online. These are based on speculation, however.
*One rumor is that Bob did Chris's college work for him, but isn't proven, and Chris's poor grades indicate otherwise.
*Bob is sometimes stated to be a Korean War veteran. This is incorrect. He served in the US Army Signal Corps during [[wikipedia:Operation Blacklist Forty|Operation Blacklist Forty]] — the American occupation of the southern half of Korea after World War II — and was discharged in 1948, never seeing combat.

==[[Caden Peck]]==
*It was believed for some time that Caden Peck had approved of Larry Vaughn's plan to send Chris to Florida, though this came from Vaughn reiterating what [[Bella]], who has been known to betray her associates (in this case Praetor) told him.
*It is often stated that Caden had staged some of the [[Sightings|Post-Jail sightings]] in order to promote sales towards Praetor, usually attributing accounts that post their photos to him posting them through the use of throwaway and sock puppet accounts on websites such as [[Reddit]] and [[Kiwi Farms]]. However, such claims come down to conjecture, and there are so far no confirmed cases of this.

==[[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History]]==
*It is often said that the ''Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History'' documentary series by [[Geno Samuel]] had a lot of influence on Christory. However, the only major confirmed instance of its influence on Christory was inspiring [[KwaiiSandbag]] to troll Chris in 2021, which lead to snapping Chris out of the idea he was [[Spirit possession|body swapped]] with Sonichu.

==[[Clyde Cash]]==
*It is believed by some that the Clyde Cash persona was played by multiple people taken on by one identity. While several people would go under the name "Clyde Cash", mostly for completely unrelated plans, the original persona most associated with Christory was played by a single troll. This same troll would play as other characters in Christory, including [[Vivian Gee]], Gregg Mays, and [[Mao Ling]].



==[[Emergency Protective Order]]==

*Though the document lists Barb as a "victim", and ordered Chris to be taken away from Barb, who was deemed an "alleged abused person", Chris was still only charged for incest under Virginia Law, which doesn't specify a victim.

==[[Fiona Cooper]]==
Fiona Cooper, also known as Snoo or "The Suitress", was invited by Chris to join him and Bella to the [[Brony]] convention [[Everfree Northwest]]. Bella then invited Fiona into one of her Discord servers after she and Fiona were invited into The WCT's [[Knights of CWC]] server. After Bella had a call with Chris regarding his affair with his mother, she gave a clip of it to Fiona, who then shared it to a group of people in another server, causing it to get leaked.

*Much like with Chris, Fiona being autistic led to a flurry of misconceptions, with many sources putting great emphasis on this facet of her.
**It is sometimes stated that Fiona was mentally handicapped as a result of her being autistic. In actuality, autism is a spectrum, and affects those who have it differently, excelling in some areas over others; intellectual or otherwise. The belief that Fiona is mentally impaired appears to stem from the fact that [[Spooky Bones]] made a post on Kiwi Farms discouraging others from doxing Fiona, while calling her an "extremely autistic young woman". Despite such claims, nothing about Fiona indicates she's intellectually or otherwise mentally impaired.
**It is sometimes speculated that Chris supposedly didn't pursue Fiona because of her autism, citing his attraction sign, which explicitly stated that he didn't want an autistic girlfriend. This is ignoring the fact that said attraction sign was created 20 years before he met Fiona, and that Chris's tastes have drastically evolved over time.
**Fiona being autistic, combined with being framed by Bella, also led to the assumption of Fiona being a Chris-like figure, with some even going as far to claim she's more of a "vulnerable adult" than Chris is. This had led to the belief she was meant to serve as a "fall girl" and many of the other rumors mentioned in this section, with beliefs in her being mentally impaired leading to the assumption that she didn't have accountability in her involvement in Christory.
*It is a common belief that Fiona asked to be censored on the CWCki and elsewhere, with some accounts stating she changed her mind afterwards. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests in the first place, and even actively went against people's attempts at censoring her. The obfuscation of Fiona primarily arose from stigma surrounding her getting doxed followed by Bella framing her. Additionally, the Suitress policy on the CWCki was an entirely unilateral decision made by a single CWCki jerkop, [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] in response to this stigma. He also did not ask for the input of other users on the CWCki, nor did he ask Fiona personally if she wanted to be censored. Upon returning on a throwaway account on Reddit, Fiona both announced she was the "Everfree Suitress" and posted a picture of herself promoting her throwaway. The belief that she wanted censorship appears to stem from the fact that Psycho's inspiration for the policy was the Wallflower policy, where that actually did happen.
*It is a commonly held belief that Fiona wanted to be Chris's sweetheart. While she had admitted to having an actual crush on him, she had never actually stated to have a desire to be a sweetheart of his, or to be in a long-term relationship with him. She would claim in texts, however, that she was "fine with the friends with benefits thing" and that Chris considers her his "first real sweetheart".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Discussion of Incest]]</ref>
*Along with the first point, it is often speculated by observers why Chris supposedly didn't pursue a relationship with Fiona, and chose Barbara over her. In reality, Chris seemed to have held a rather conflicting standpoint towards her attraction towards him, claiming in chats and calls that he didn't see the relationship lasting long, forseeing that she'd meet a long-term sweetheart in college. However, Chris would also promise to her in a recording regarding Everfree Northwest not to be enraged at the G5 merchandise that may show up, and state that he "loved" her. He would also claim in a text that having sex with her would be the right step for her to take both for her "emotional and mental development". Fiona would also claim in a conversation with Bella that Chris was "embarressed and nervous" at the thought of his first real sweetheart. Chris would also refer to her by a pet name, "Fifi", that he had given to her in a [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022|jail letter]]. Along with all of that, Chris had been having his affair with his mother since late June, roughly a month before he ever met Fiona.
*It is often claimed that Bella wanted to film Chris having sex with Fiona for blackmail purposes, usually following that she'd do this to frame him as a [[pedofork|pedophile]]. This appears to be a rumor loosely based on two excerpts from the [[Incest Call]] and excerpts from leaked messages involving Bella. With regards to the Call, the first excerpt was where Bella discusses her friend [[Fiona]] (who held a crush on Chris) and tries to encourage Chris to pursue a relationship with her. In the second, Bella said she would create a slideshow of romantic stuff between Chris and Fiona during the [[Everfree Northwest]] convention festivities. Bella does not seem to actually state wanting to put any sexual content into the presentation. Adding onto that, Chris already discussed with Bella about the planned sexual intercourse he'd have with Fiona before she made the call. With regards to the leaked messages, Bella tried to create a cover story to protect Fiona when questioned by the Knights, claiming she was a minor. This was after the calls got leaked, and after plans for the convention were arranged, so it is unlikely that Bella intended to frame Chris of being a pedophile.
*It is sometimes stated that Fiona was a victim of sexual abuse, explaining certain factors such as her crush towards Chris. Though this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, this hasn't been fully confirmed. Additionally, since her account was deleted prior, some of the evidence for this came from Kiwi Farms users trying to attribute her to posts from deleted accounts on the CWCki's Discord server being referred to as "Snoo", her screenname on said server. This search for her posts also didn't account for the fact that she used a second account, which used an entirely different name, "ScootalooSister", after being banned from the server the first time.<ref group = note>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#The Suitress and Associates|Anaxis]] claims that Fiona wasn't aware she got banned prior to making the second account, though she also stated that people on there naturally "missed her".</ref>
**In addition to this, Bella is often cited to want to "steal" Fiona from Chris, often to represent it as her wanting to sexually assault her. Such claims, however, are based on out-of-context chats involving Bella stating that she became "besties" with Fiona, and swore to protect her from Chris.<ref>[[Chess club#More Bella Thirst]]</ref> This also ignores the fact that Fiona herself engaged in flirtatious behaviors with Bella, sending her a picture of both her face and legs, and telling Bella she "had sex with men", meaning that whatever feelings Bella had towards Fiona were entirely consensual.<ref>[[Chess club#Bella Thirst]]</ref> Bella had also stated that she only wanted to go to the convention to dance with Fiona at the Grand Galloping Gala event at the convention but otherwise hadn't expressed anything beyond that.<ref>[[Chess club#Everfree Dance]]</ref>
*It is often stated that Fiona was brought to a "mental hospital" or was "institutionalized" after her encounters with Chris, with the story usually stating it was a result of GiBi leaking her phone number or as a result of Bella framing her. Chris also repeated this rumor in an interview he had with Keffals. In actuality, this is an exaggeration made regarding events surrounding Fiona being told to the Mean Girls by her friend Grant. One of the Mean Girls had stated that Grant told them that Fiona had her internet privileges revoked, and "may have" been brought into inpatient psychiatric care.<ref>{{cite farms|thread = 96787|post = 9663622|writer = Basalas}}</ref> Grant seemed to have chosen not to give the exact details surrounding this, but this essentially means that Fiona was temporarily brought to therapy for a short period, likely overnight. This is not the same thing as being put in a "mental hospital".

==[[Flutter]]==
After Chris was released from Jail, he was spotted many times with an unnamed gal-pal, usually referred to as "Flutter". Often deemed as being one of the most mysterious aspects of Christory, several rumors surrounding her and her relations to Chris had naturally arisen afterwards.

*Some believe that Flutter was a recruit from [[Praetor]], though actual proof of this has yet to surface.
*It is often supposed that Flutter is Finnish (or perhaps Finnish-American) since Chris began studying Finnish in [[Duolingo]] for no particular reason around the time he met her and subsequently went to Finland multiple times with her. However, these factors cannot be classified as hard proof. Additionally, one observer stated that she had no noticeable foreign accent and other claimed that she spoke with an affected "anime girl" voice.
*It is sometimes stated that Flutter might be mentally handicapped. While this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, most of this comes down to conjecture than anything substantiated. This appears to be based on Chris's encounters with [[Fiona]], which had occurred under similar circumstances. One of the people who spotted Flutter with Chris claimed that she wasn't "noticeably" handicapped.
*It is claimed that Flutter frequented several Finnish image boards, though the identity of this poster hasn't been disclosed.
*It was once written on Flutter's page by the ween [[Xela]] that when she wore a facemask and sunglasses both to the airport and at a convention, she did this as a means to avoid attention from weens. Several other similar rumors about Flutter's face being obscured in photos would soon follow, with some even accusing those who took photos of her and Chris of being in cahoots with people like [[Caden Peck]].<ref group=note>There are a few photos of Flutter that do show her face, such as the image used in her infobox, so this is demonstrably false.</ref> Once again, while it is not entirely impossible that Flutter is trying to conceal her identity, almost all signs of this are circumstantial at best.
*Also on Flutter's page, it was written that there was a possibility that Flutter showed reciprocity for Chris when he allegedly "hugged" her at a CVS, stating that her body language "didn't indicate" reciprocity,<ref group = note>Specifically wording it like this not only assumes that it is known for a fact that Chris did advance on her, but also implies that because it hasn't been disproven, one could assume she expressed feelings back towards him.</ref> though this was based on a very blurry photo of them where not all of the details can be made out. This means it would be impossible to make out either of their body languages. While the person who took the photos had claimed that Flutter was uncomfortable with Chris's supposed advances, their claims have yet to be fully verified.
*Xela also knowingly spread a rumor that Chris and Flutter were going to have a baby some time in the summer of 2025 for the sole purpose of stirring up drama. He based this rumor on a misheard clip of a livestream. This rumor got promoted by several sources, including Null himself, so much so that it even made it onto tabloid media such as the ''Daily Mail''. In actuality, Chris had never discussed any such plans of having a child with Flutter, and was in fact speaking hypothetically of such a scenario.
*Flutter's first name is rumored to be "Auli" (an uncommon, old-fashioned Finnish woman's name) on the basis of a alleged call<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92TwU2gNZVA</ref> between a financial [[enabler]] and Chris posted to YouTube on 12 June 2025. In the call, the enabler tries to get Chris's guard down by asking him questions about [[Transformers|Autobots]] and [[Count Graduon]] before abruptly asking "Does Eileen know about this?", causing Chris to respond "Her name is Auli". Some have argued that the call was created using AI voice simulation tools or is otherwise inauthentic. Even if the call is authentic, it hasn't been confirmed that "Auli" is the correct spelling of the name.

==[[Gal pal]]==
*It is often asserted that Chris's high school "[[gal pal]]s" were paid by [[Bob]] to hang out with him during school hours and look out for him. Conversations between trolls and the former "friends" indicate that they had some kind of informal arrangement with Bob and the school principal, but there is no indication that they were ever paid for their services. When Chris was in middle school, however, Bob did pay a girl named Natasha to walk with him to and from the bus stop, with Chris handing her the money himself.<ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Natasha]]</ref>
*Chris himself now believes that his supposed friends were paid to hang out with him, causing him to disparage them as "hired help". This is based on a conversation he had with a troll who was posing as one of the friends in question. After he was told they had been paid, he asked [[Barbara]] if that was true and she told him it was. However, it is likely that Barb was never familiar with the details of the arrangement and may have had them confused with Natasha.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals]]</ref>
*People sometimes cite fake quotes from the troll [[Thetan]], who impersonated Chris' High School gal-pals, as evidence for them supposedly loathing Chris or regretting their friendships with him. It is also entirely unlikely that these gal-pals would have expressed any feelings about Chris' online presence, as they have long since moved on with their lives and have families.

==[[GiBi]]==
[[File:GiBi discusses Bella and the Suitress screenshot.png|thumb|200px|GiBi neglected to redact one of the phone numbers when showing screenshots (under red censor bar; screenshot was uncensored in his video). The number allegedly belonged to Fiona. This was the basis for much speculation.]]

GiBi, a semi-popular Christuber made a daily series regarding the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]] of Christory. He consulted several conflicting sources for information regarding the act, one of which was Bella. Bella tried to convince him that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", which GiBi argued for.

Bella also took screenshots of her DMs with Fiona and Chris and gave them to GiBi to leak. The screenshots included header information on names and phone numbers for both. When making a video on the screenshots, GiBi attempted to crop out the header information - while he succeeded at most, he neglected to crop two instances, leaving Fiona's phone number briefly visible. When told of this by Kiwi Farms users, GiBi promptly deleted the video and redid it to censor one instance, but failed to catch the other. When informed again, he again deleted the video. GiBi later posted the screenshots onto Kiwi Farms where he applied censorship to Fiona's phone number (and not Chris's).

*Before the uploading of the infamous video by him where he leaks Fiona's phone number, GiBi would mention on the Kiwi Farms about getting information on the leaks from a "friend" of his, alongside Bella. The "friend" that GiBi was talking to was presumed to be [[The WCT]]. In actuality, the friend was a CCCC user that went under the username "LavenderBonez" on that server, who seemed to be supportive of Fiona leaking a chunk of the incest call, even going as far as calling her a "hero".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#CCCC Incest Call Leak]]</ref>
*In its earliest form, [[GiBi]] had a section of the [[Orbiter Wave]] page, which initially covered people that were prominent during the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]]. In it, his leaking of Fiona's number was characterized as intentional from being prompted by Bella's disinformation. The section originally stated that ''Immediately accepting Bella's story that the entire scandal was the fault of Fiona, he then leaked Fiona's phone number in one of his videos for thousands to see.'' It appears to be speculation that there was a link between the phone number leak and Bella's story. The section was also revised to clarify that the leak was in the form of screenshots of text messages between Bella and Fiona in which a phone number was not redacted.


==[[Honor Roll]]==
*Whether Chris made the Honor Roll, or exactly what such a feat entailed around the time of his graduation, is unknown.

==[[Incest Call]]==
A key aspect regarding the drama that followed from Chris's affair had primarily come from how clips of this call had been leaked. So far, only four clips of varying lengths of this call had ever been leaked, all with various amounts of context. Because of this, many unproven claims regarding the people involved in the [[Incest]], [[Watchmen]], and [[Lainchu]] sagas have been heavily propagated.

*The date of the Call is unclear, which in turn has lead to gossip on what [[Bella]] wanted to do with the call. Evidence points to either 27 July 2021 or 28 July 2021 as the call date, however much of the evidence was from Bella's screenshots, and she has a history of creating [[Fabricated BDSM texts|fabricated texts at least once.]]

==[[Isabella Loretta Janke]]==
Isabella Loretta Janke is most known for her involvement in a call where Chris describes incestuous acts he's performed towards his mother. Before this, Bella had been in touch with Chris for almost a year, acting nice around him, while also showing many instances of A-logging or wishing harm towards him in Discord chats, sometimes outright claiming to want to make him harm himself. She would also roleplay as prior [[gal pal]]s like Kellie Andes and an employee for the Curiosity Stream, and has been known to encourage the verbal harassment and bullying of other students at her university. This edgy behavior would lead to many instances of misinformation or unproven claims resulting from the chaos around the [[Incest Call]], gossip on [[Kiwi Farms]], much of which was perpetuated by user [[Spooky Bones]], being taken at face value, and Bella's alleged plots towards Chris.
*It is often stated that Bella had convinced Chris to commit incest on his mother. In actuality, Bella was in a call with him, where Chris had discussed the matter openly with her. Chris had told her multiple times of instances of having an affair with a "sweetheart over 50", and had even admitted to having a wet dream of his mother in one other instance.
*It was initially written that Bella had a suicide plot towards Chris dating back to 25 April 2020. This was based on a Discord user, ZorgothTDK, who alleged that DMs between him and Bella, in which a Deleted User states "That's what we're trying to do with Chris [...] Get him be suicidal [...] Bc he's retarded", were Bella discussing Chris Chan. However, Bella knew of two other people named Chris - her cousin and another Discord user - making it unclear if she was referring to Chris Chan. Though ZorgothTDK claims that Bella was referring to Chris Chan, the full log of his conversation with the Deleted User makes no indication that Chris Chan was being discussed.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bella-janke-allegedly-planning-cwc-suicide-since-april-2020.97773/</ref> In addition, communication between Bella and Chris Chan has not been established for the time frame of April 2020 - [[Bella chats#Curiosity Stream|the earliest known message from Bella to Chris Chan occurred in October 2020]]. The exact time at which Bella had actually started interacting with Chris is not known, but she has claimed in one instance to have started trolling Chris for almost a year to one of her Chess Club associates in a July 2021 Discord message.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/servers-zip.2416454/ Zip file of Chess Club Discord leaks hosted at Kiwi Farms]. See "Chess club - chess" at 19-Jul-21 11:29 AM timestamp</ref> However, in two other instances, Bella would claim to a friend that she did have a plan to get Chris to kill himself in one instance,<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> and claim that she wanted Praetor members to convince him to cut off his penis in another, and hoping that he would die from a gender reassignment surgery accident.<ref name=animation>{{cite farms|thread=79414|post=8539683|title=YT 11/13/20 - Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation}}</ref>
*It was initially written that Bella had a blackmail plot involving the [[Incest Call]]. Usually this claim is in conjunction with the claim that Bella wanted to record Chris having sex with Fiona. While Bella had intended to leak the call after an unspecified point, and had created fake texts where Chris states he performed BDSM-style sex with Barb in the meantime, it is not known for sure if this would have involved blackmailing Chris.
*It was initially written that Bella self-assigned her bodyguard role for [[Everfree Northwest]], however Chris had assigned her the role.<ref>[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]</ref>
*It is believed by some that Bella had an incest fetish, part of the reason for her call with Chris. This would even be written a few times in articles that mention her. However, whether or not Bella was actually into incest is unclear. This in part seems to come from an incest fanfiction that she had allegedly created under the account '''narutoisgay77897''', which involves a father-son relationship between Naruto characters. However, the link between this account and Bella is unclear, and the account itself has "Im into engineering and electromagnetism and shit but u wont find any of that shit here, only gay hentai bitches." as its description, suggesting that it could be a troll account, if created by her. The account therefore cannot be used to prove this, as its legitimacy is questionable. A user by the name of '''Gungann''' would also continuously question Bella on this point, citing part of a transcription of her call with Chris which claims that she talked to Chris while aroused, though he doesn't give the source for this particular transcript, or where he was reading it from.
*It was once written on the [[Discord]] page that Bella was a member of the [[Discord#Official CWCki Server|Official CWCki Server]] before the call. This was loosely based off a policy on the server where mentioning or talking about her is prohibited, as moderators on the server were notified about harassment on the server, and were concerned of the possibility that either she or her friends would report the server if they found out that anyone was discussing her.

==[[Jail Saga]]==
*The letters that Chris had written in jail could not be used as evidence against him in court, as they were strictly his word.

==[[Jeff Ouzuo]]==
*Jeff/Francine did not create the ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'' fangame. It was the CWCki Forums user Maple. Because of Chris declaring this, several people came to believe that Jeff/Francine was Maple.



==[[Lainchu]]==
*The Lainchu character wasn't a troll persona. The character itself was created by Chris as a coping mechanism for the purpose of explaining certain events in his life. Chris entrusted the Watchmen to control Lainchu so that he could be "chronicled" properly. The Watchmen later used the persona with the intention of documenting select chats with his permission, and later for observers to ask him questions by proxy when he got banned from the CWCki Discord server.
*It was once written on [[The WCT]]'s page that he was the primary Lainchu, though this was incorrect. He had attempted to steal the role from [[Anaxis]] but Chris rejected the attempt.

==[[Liquid Chris]]==

*It is often stated that Liquid Chris was a single person. In actuality, Liquid was played by a set of twins, Christopher and Jon Duckworth. While Christopher played as Chris in Youtube videos and PVCC chats, Jon played Liquid during the Sing-Star Challenge.
*While [[The Miscreants]] (group of trolls including the one behind Clyde Cash) would claim Liquid Chris, the brothers and girlfriend behind Liquid Chris and Kacey alike appear to have started their trolling independently, after Christopher Duckworth began comically impersonating Chris Chan.
*Liquid Chris started impersonating Chris a month before the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, and was barely influenced by this video.

==[[Megan Schroeder]]==
*It is often stated that Chris ruined his friendship with her by posting [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. In reality, their friendship had already been long deteriorating at that point; [[Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007|email correspondences]] from that period show that Megan was already getting sick of Chris's creepy behavior and [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] have stated that Megan was already avoiding Chris before the photo was posted online. SheCameForCWC.jpg was just the point where things came to such a head that Megan was forced to cut off all contact with Chris.
*It later surfaced that Chris did not shred the physical copy of SheCameForCWC.jpg before placing it in the [[Crumple-Lope]], but neatly cut it into squares.
*It is often stated that Megan was the only legitimate female friend that Chris had that wasn't a troll. While Megan is the most well-known one, this is ignoring people in Chris's life like [[Anna McLerran]], [[The Wallflower]], [[Fiona Cooper]], the [[Pokémon League friends]], [[Tings Tingz]], [[MKRNightVee]], [[Helena Fiorenza]], [[Midnight Moonflower]], and [[Flutter]].

==[[Monthly Tugboat]]==
*It was previously written on the page that Chris would earn more money overall if he got an actual job and didn't rely solely on the tugboat. This however was built off of a number of assumptions and speculative information.
*Bob did not actually believe that Chris would make more money off of the Tugboat, and actually was hoping that Chris would find actual employment, expressing being impressed at Chris's computer literacy and him obtaining two CADD degrees.<ref>[[Bob Call 6]]</ref>

==[[Niggos]]==
*Chris had never said the word "nigger" outside of troll interference. He also never said the phrase "no darkies". This came from a piece of fan art parodying his attraction sign.

==[[OfficialCWCmart]]==
*It is often said that Chris only makes 7% off of the sales from OfficialCWCMart. However, this estimate conflates his royalty from the Praetor-made medallions with the stuff that he makes himself. It is currently unknown how much of the content sold on the Etsy was from Chris collaborating with Praetor.

==[[Pedofork]]==
*Although not impossible, all evidence of Chris being a pedophile so far comes from untrustworthy sources or instances where trolls pressured him into saying such things, so it is unwise to assume so.

==[[Praetor]]==
*[[Larry Vaughn]]'s claims about Praetor were once written on their article. However, he based these claims off of things that were said verbatim by [[Bella]], a known habitual liar who has on several occasions lied about her own associates. A few such claims include:
**Praetor were a group of trolls akin to the [[Idea Guys]] or the [[Teen Troon Squad]]
**They produced a lot of their merchandise in a "nasty basement".
**Larry's plan to send Chris to Florida was approved by Caden.
**Chris roleplayed as Sonichu at all times.
**Chris was still going after his high school gal-pals to the point of people needing to change their profiles.
**Chris was tazing himself out of fear that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen.
*It is often stated that [[Bella]] was a member of Praetor due to the fact that she was commissioned by them to create an animation, and the fact that Larry Vaughn cited her as such. Despite this, Bella was never involved in any of their other projects.

==[[Rocky Shoemaker]]==
*It was once written on Rocky's article that she had used BlueSky, and that Chris had blocked her account. In actuality this was an imposter account that was created with the intent on trolling Chris.

==[[Sylvana Rosechu]]==
*It is often mistakenly believed that Sylvana always had a penis. In reality, she started out as a female Rosechu, but Chris introduced the lore of being made intersex in [[Sonichu 8]], where she had the ability to give herself a penis or a vagina at will, as a component of her ability to shapeshift. This was a condition from Count Graduon that she lose her ability to give birth. Similar to Rosechu, however, Silvana was often portrayed with a penis by trolls to exploit Chris's distaste for [[Hermaphrodite|hermaphrodites]].
*It is sometimes stated that Sylvana Rosechu was created to represent all of the instances that Chris was catfished by trolls, with a scene in [[Sonichu 10]], where Chris is "trolled" by being seduced by her disguised as [[Meg Griffin]], often being brought up as evidence for this. However, Chris has also stated that his intention for that scene was that Sylvana was "all female" when she seduced him. Some of Chris's interactions with trolls also seem to indicate that Sylvana's ability was a result of troll influence. Chris has stated that he prefers to have fans draw her with a vagina instead of a penis, and the infamous drawing of her masturbating was a commission from [[Sarah May]], who bribed Chris to make the drawing and similar drawings to get his website back.

==[[Taser]]==
*It is believed by some that Praetor wanted to get Chris to tase himself. In actuality, Chris had discussed plans with Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[Kyle]] about plans to shock his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] quartz crystals in order to open up a portal to another dimension, citing a Gaia article about ancient civilizations using piezoelectricity to open up portals. Chris wanted to borrow a taser from Praetor to tase the crystals. Praetor was initially willing to allow him to use it under their supervision. The rumor that they wanted to get him to tase himself was first started by the Watchmen leader [[Naught]], who had posted out-of-context clips of Watchmen members talking to the founder and leader of Praetor, [[Caden Peck]], and alleging that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed". Naught had also left out a clip where the Watchman Val Valentino brought up the subject, and is asking if Chris would tase himself, and Caden Peck discussing how he felt it would be a bad idea. Interestingly, [[Isabella Janke]], a minor member of Praetor, had also spread a rumor that she had tried convincing Praetor members to get Chris to harm himself by getting him to cut his penis off, while claiming she was only "recruited".

==[[The Wallflower]]==
*The Wallflower policy appears sometimes to get conflated with the Suitress policy, where it is often stated that Fiona asked for people to censor her. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests to anyone.
*The Wallflower policy wasn't set up out of "respect" for the Wallflower, as the CWCki has no obligation to protect people arbitrarily; it was done as a personal request from her to CWCki admins after editors shared information about her that wasn't relevant to Chris; in addition to Chris persistently stating he was in a relationship with her; due to her unintentionally being associated with him. Additionally, the policy is primarily enforced solely on the CWCki and its Discord server.
*Contrary to popular belief, the Wallflower policy did allow users to utilize the Wallflower's identity to some degree, particularly if omitting such information might affect the clarity of information surrounding Chris. Many transcripts that didn't reference Chris being in a "relationship" with her were transcribed faithfully, utilizing her first name, and several pages on this wiki also still use art and images that utilize her face. The page [[CWCki:The Wallflower|meant to explain the Wallflower policy]] also admits that attempting to censor the Wallflower in full is not only impossible, but even detrimental to documenting Chris.
*Chris never referred to the Wallflower as "Lovely Weather". This misconception was a result of people assuming the [[Lovely Weather|character of the same name]] from the comics was based on the Wallflower. However, Chris has denied any connection between them.

==[[The WCT]]==

One of the primary members of the [[Watchmen]].

*It was initially written that The WCT wanted Chris to kill himself. This originated from a rumor spread by [[MKRNightVee]], his former associate in the Watchmen Discord server [[The Place]]. In June 2021, the [[Watchmen]] clique was infighting over [[Naught]] posting The WCT's dox onto Kiwi Farms. WCT responded by informing Chris, who left The Place. Angry over this development, MKR took to Twitter to spread a rumor that WCT "probably wants Chris to kill himself".<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref> A month later, the rumor was further spurred by Kiwi Farms forum posters, who assumed from both MKR's rumor and WCT's interactions with Bella (who had claimed on at least two occasions to want to get Chris to harm himself or commit suicide) that WCT was in on Bella's supposed plots. Despite this, no evidence has surfaced that WCT knew of Bella's claimed plots.
*It was initially written in a few articles that Chris had directly contributed to the mass doxing of Fiona by sharing one of her pictures with the WCT. Chris, although posting her photograph to him, would also refer to her by her pen name, "Fifi Vixenhart". The WCT wouldn't have become aware of her real name, or actually dox her, until later, when Bella had told him in the [[Regarding Chris]] chats that Fiona was the sole provider of fabricated texts where Chris states he's done BDSM on Barb while she was doxing her on multiple websites. The WCT would post one of Fiona's videos and use her first name, partially revealing her identity and bringing attention from trolls onto her.
*It was initially written that The WCT had been recruited into Bella's [[Chess Club]] Discord server. He had actually been invited into a separate server, [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]]. This error was based on mislabeled folders of Discord server chatlogs which were passed around on Kiwi Farms - the folders were labelled "Chess Club" and "Chess Club ft Fiona and CWC", however the actual content was [[Chess Club]] and [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]] chatlogs.
*The WCT is often misquoted as proclaiming himself as being "the final protagonist of Christory", which was often used as evidence for knowing that Chris was going to commit suicide. In actuality, in his boasting, he proclaimed himself as "'''one of the final''' protagonists", proclaiming that his work will be held in high regard in Geno's documentary, and be compared to figures such as [[Null]]. Additionally, he said this in reference to the Watchmen's belief that Barb's death would be the end of Christory, a belief that WCT had held strongly.
**Likewise, it was also believed that when he titled his pre-jail interview with Chris as the "Final Pre-Jail interview", he also meant this as knowing Chris was going to commit suicide, ignoring the fact that this was indeed the last interview he had with Chris before he went to jail.

==[[Transgender]]==

Chris' shift in gender identity and subsequent identification as a lesbian/bisexual transwoman has been a subject of intense debate and scrutiny within and outside of LGBT+ circles, with some believing that it is yet another act designed to enable him to shack up with lesbian women, and still others claiming that Chris openly admitted that this was the case. While the possibility of the former cannot be entirely discounted, no known admission of this nature has ever been made by Chris personally, and none of the assorted chat logs and correspondences leaked since Chris began his transition suggest this either.
*It is often stated that Chris admitted to adopting a [[transgender]] identity solely so that he could hook up with lesbians. This appears to be a confusion for an answer that Chris had posted to a question on [[OkCupid]], where he states that if he were to raise a "[[hermaphrodite]]", a term which he has used to refer to trans women, he'd raise them as a male so that they can pick up women (including lesbians).<ref group = note>The exact thing that Chris said, when answering whether or not intersex children should get surgery , was: "If a Hermaphrodite, I would raise it to be male regardless since it would not have any eggs anyway. Plus big bonus for (him) in sex with all women (lesbians included I would imagine)."</ref>
*Many suggest that "Christine" is a fake name. It is in fact his legal first name as of 2016. The CWCki, however, still uses "Chris" and (to a lesser extent) "Christian" for consistency.
*While Chris has shown early signs of dysphoria, going far back to his times at [[Manchester High]], these shouldn't be taken as a singular cause for it.

==[[Trolls]]==
*Some of Chris's trolls, particularly most of the Miscreants, are often represented as figures that tried to "help" Chris. It should be noted that any mention they make of this is mostly tongue-in-cheek, as their primary goal was that of any other Internet troll, to get a rise out of Chris.

==[[Watchmen]]==

*The Watchmen are often misleadingly referred to as an organization of enablers. In reality, the "Watchmen" were a clique of Chris's most prominent enablers and white knights, who had used several different Discord servers. The name "Watchmen" was created directly after some its members were discovered, and connected to previous groups such as [[Son of the Miscreants]] and [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]], as a sort of allusion to [[the Miscreants]]. The WCT, with the intent of cutting ties with the others in the "Watchmen", also dropped the name entirely when he established the Knights of CWC, which had a similar set-up, but a fundamentally different philosophy when handling Chris orbiters.

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Talk:Michael Snyder

2026-01-20T20:26:36Z

Dodo Conservative: /* TheRcholic */

Hah, you faggots got there before me on the last name. I love how Chris keeps giving out moar and more information about his private life. ^^ [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 07:15, 18 March 2009 (CET)

i kind of have a problem with this "In Chris's anger, Chris ends up calling him a Jew as if it's an insult" line. i keep listening to the audio and i believe his last word was "You" (IOU or JOU, depending on the phonetic alphabet youre using) as opposed to the "dʒ" you need to pronounce the word "jew". or is it just me. what do you think? [[User:Rosechupenis|Rosechupenis]] 08:15, 12 April 2010

HAHAHAHA! DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK [[Chris_and_English#Spoken_language|COCKS]]. That, or I need to clean my ears.[[User:Rosechupenis|Rosechupenis]] 08:52, 12 April 2010

Can someone better than me with wikis make that image smaller? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done. Glad I was able to help. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 12:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::Cheers mate. Three points! -Ronichu
:::My pleasure, Ronichu. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
==== Number Disconnected? ====

I called Michael from Australia this evening to congratulate him on standing up against Chris and to let him know I would shop at his shop were I able to; I doublechecked the number Chris gave ((434) 984-1040) on his website, so it's definitely the right number... but it seems the number was disconnected, probably today. Did anons get hold of it and spam it with JULAAAAAAAAAY? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

*Try this number Ron, I got it straight from the GAMe PLACe's website: (540) 948-4263. Maybe you should mention to Mike that Chris put the audio up online when you call him. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 12:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

JEW [[User:Jc808|Jc808]] 16:33, 15 November 2011 (PST)

== A saga is brewing ==

Let us keep watching to see what happens. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 04:33, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Same here, I'm spamming his email to see what his reaction is. [[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 09:32 PM CST, 13 June 2010
*Don't spam Mike. That won't give him a good opinion of us.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
**Sorry, forgot to say I was spamming '''Chris' ''' mailbox. Sorry, there. [[User:Eniggy|Eniggy and the Minor Mistake of Derp]] 19:05, 16 June 2010 (CST)
*** Oh Hi, everybody! i think i'm a gonna call chris on his cell. Is the cell on his [[Chris's resume|resumé]] still the one he uses? --[[User:Tommy Wiseau|Tommy Wiseau]] 23:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* Yes, that is his cell phone number. Proof? [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]]. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 23:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==To be blunt==
I really don't like this article. We have one section of decent length and then two which are both (almost) completely oversized quotes. I say get rid of the quotes and replace them with some actual substance. Also, the pictures aren't really relevant to the sections they are in. I think the "niggers jews bad news" thing should be in "antisemitism" and the other pictures either need their own section or should be removed. We don't need to archive fucking everything. We just need the important bits. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 03:25, 16 October 2010 (PDT)

==Out of respect?==
So Snyder's facebook is listed, and it has a picture of him, is the picture not posted on cwcki out of respect for Snyder or has no one got around to it?
[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 19:10, 18 January 2011 (PST)
:To be blunt, I don't even know why Eamoo put the facebook link there. It's for the same reason why we don't talk about his personal life in the article: The only thing that matters is how he pertains to Chris. Just like pretty much everyone else, he has a fake picture because it would be purposeless to put the picture up for us and could potentially be damaging for them. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:33, 18 January 2011 (PST)

==History repeating itself==

He still hold a grudge against him even 3 years after, read his last post on Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia, i have just joined the Cwcki recently and yet i witnessed one of usual CWC bullshit. I need a drink now

The quote

I do have intel from my own experiences and past research which hopefully can be helpful. I'd recommend starting at the Game & Hobby Place in Charlottesville, across from the Omni hotel. I have been banned from there in April, 2008 by the cold-hearted Michael Snyder. My family and I know that in a great way, that Place IS a central or focal point of the Trolls' plottings and/or such.

PLUS, it AND the other three associated hobby stores on their same website are ALL owned by a convicted-in-Illinois sex offender, Robert Lightfire. The Place is located across the street from a Public School; morally and legally, the Place should NOT be located there at all. Yet Mr. Lightburn is listed as an Offender in Illinois; he isn't listed in VA. He lives in Madison. I am positive, aside from him being married, Mr. Snyder has his own equatable criminal scandal.

The following quote was Posted by Chris Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:57 pm on the Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia Forum

[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]]

*Not only that but in the most recent PC Assassins call, Bob seems to think that The Game Place is a hub for all of the trolls led by Megan to make Chris' life shit. Gotta love them conspiracy theories [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 16:28, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==The Michael Snyder images==

Sorry, but I'm just a bit skeptical of the authenticity of these images. How do we know these are actually of Michael Snyder and where did they come from, exactly? These pictures just showed up out of nowhere so we have absolutely no evidence that these are the real thing.

[[User:Dlanor A Knox|Dlanor A Knox]] 16:47, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
: How do we even know that that's The Game Place or even in Charlottesville? It's a shitty picture taken by a shitty camera. This doesn't really tell us anything. [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 16:51, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
*Shit's been up for a while and the mods ain't done dick about 'em. They're probably legit and are potentially part of something big that's gonna happen. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 00:18, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Take a close look at the Metadata for the photos. Compare to [[:File:Burgerking.jpg|this]]. Seriously, you people have so little faith in us. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:24, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*It's taken with the Nintendo 3DS. That would be something Chris would take a picture with. [[User:TommyAwesome|TommyAwesome]] 09:56, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
: So did Chris just put these up on this page without saying anything about them or what? Did he put them up somewhere else, and somebody here found them? --[[User:MrMash|MrMash]] 08:09, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* That's definitely the parking lot of the PLACe. You can see Jefferson Elementary in the background. Don't believe me? Check Google Maps. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 03:09, 7 December 2011 (PST)

[[28_October_2011]] --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 08:17, 6 November 2011 (PST)

== Son? ==

Does Michael have a son?
There is someone online that uses the name 'klightburn' on redit. He has mentioned CWC more then once and says that chris went to the GAMe PLACe. He refereed to the place as "My Fathers Store" moreover, he said "I was Chris's tard wrangler for a day". does anyone know who this kid is or if we have his story in the wiki?
this search should bring up what im talking about
https://www.google.com/search?q=%2Bklightburn+%2Bchristian+weston&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=91H&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvnso&filter=0&biw=1440&bih=778
* ok so it is apparent that Michael has a daughter (klightburn may be this person) and it would be interesting to get her story. Chris did "take pictures" of her so there was at least some interaction there.
*Looking over some of klightburn's other comments on the site indicates that she is female, so it's probably her. She may have some interesting things to talk about, so anyone interested in contacting her should probably do so. Also, put signatures on your damn posts. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:32, 19 January 2012 (PST)
**sorry i keep forgetting to do that [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:05, 19 January 2012 (PST)
*I would contact her if i could get some dox. I am actually planning on contacting Snyder because im putting together a documentary, i may be able to get access to her through him. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:05, 19 January 2012 (PST)
**You can contact her directly through Reddit if you have an account there. Just sign in, select her user page, and click on "send message". --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 12:36, 19 January 2012 (PST)

Robin Lightburn is the pedofork who owned the PLACe.

K says "well my story wasn't that funny but I was talking to my dad who just sold the GAMe PLACe to his manager Mike Snyder. He mentioned that Christian had ran Mike over in the parking lot and apparently so did his mom! I worked there in 2008 and christian was banned from the store because he had been given so many chances to stop harassing others and generally causing drama among other gamers. One girl Megan felt so uncomfortable around him she pretended to date another gamer named Chris so that Christian would leave her alone."

and "Hey I know this guy! He use to Gm Pokemon games in my dads store. Seriously he is a terrible person. There is nothing wrong with being autistic but as he says he is " a high functioning autistic" and since he knows this he uses it to manipulate people. He got kicked out of the local college for holding a sign that said " looking for a boyfriendless girl no darkies need apply." He also threatened the headmaster . Ive watched him hit on girls way too young for him. This is all recorded in his comic about a character named sonichu. Sonichu worst enemy? PVCC headmaster."

Could be worth following. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 13:22, 19 January 2012 (PST)
*Actually his name is Robert, not Robin. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 13:24, 19 January 2012 (PST)

==Did some restructuring==
I tried to consolidate the information into coherent paragraphs, for the sake of readability. I also added stuff from the past couple years that had been neglected. I was especially interested in making sure that this page and the Game PLACe page are not identical--I tried to keep the focus on Mike himself and Chris's perceptions of him as a person. I tried to minimize issues regarding his theory of the PLACe as a troll HQ, and the legal issues surrounding his trial, which should be dealt with on that page. I don't think I did anything radical; for the most part it was moving things around and creating structured paragraphs. -asperhes, 1/25/15

== Sockness ==

Why's the Sockness section necessary? It's just him being a ween and Chris didn't respond to it. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)

:Yeah I agree, it's no more important than any ween attempt, other than the fact that it was done by a christorical figure. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 23:13, 9 August 2023 (EDT)

== TheRcholic ==

Since we have quotes from Snyder's supposed YouTube channel TheRcholic, there should probably be some more description about it. I'm also not 100% sure this is the real Snyder. There's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA a YouTube video] where he's interviewed, although this video is weird in that the interviewer literally describes himself as a troll and TheRcholic is fine talking to him. The other thing people cite for legitimacy is [[6 June 2010]] but there's a discrepancy there in that TheRcholic and Chris give different dates. TheRcholic also posted a lot of weenish comments. Mary and Megan were also hassled by Chris but didn't stoop to that level. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:08, 10 March 2025 (EDT)
:Also does anyone object to removing the top quote from TheRcholic? Maybe replace with something Chris said. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:02, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

It has been recently put into question whether TheRCholic was actually Michael or a troll posing as him, yet at [[Talk:Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]], we have an apparent confirmation made at the time (2010) by Mimms that RCholic was indeed Michael; not only that, an account with the same username was registered here and also made comments over there that, in my opinion, don't seem to come from a troll/impersonator (for example, one comment in which he mentions having clinical depression, why would a random troll post something like that?. As for the unprofessional/weening tone of some of RCholic's comments, could you really blame him for wanting to get back at Chris for constantly pestering him and his business? Obviously, Mimms has long moved on from anything Chris-related so we shouldn't contact him, but, to me at least, the evidence seems to point out that RCholic was indeed Michael Snyder's account. What should we do? [[User:UmJammer Lammy|UmJammer Lammy]] ([[User talk:UmJammer Lammy|talk]]) 20:54, 14 January 2026 (EST).
:I did some poking around and I found some interesting information: https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/members/thercholic.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 21:41, 14 January 2026 (EST)
::I think it is more likely than not that TheRCholic is indeed Michael Snyder. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 21:42, 14 January 2026 (EST)
::Where's it confirmed that Mimms said Rcholic is Snyder? As for the rest, I'm not 100% sure. Trolls have gone to extreme lengths in impersonating others before. Might be best to go back to the previous way the page was written: "TheRcholic was a now-deleted YouTube account which was supposedly used by Michael Snyder", etc. Avoids committing too hard in either direction. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:14, 15 January 2026 (EST)
:::Would be strange for someone to fake an account that is active in an RC forum for 2 years long after the events. Also the caller in the video sounds exactly like Michael Snyder. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 08:51, 15 January 2026 (EST)
::: It's on the talk page section "Mimms' Input". To quote directly: ''Mimms can confirm that I, TheRcholic, and Mike are the same person, and so far the local authorities have been unresponsive to my requests. Seems they don't care, but if I were female, or kill myself(since I am being treated for severe clinical depression) then they react''. It was added by an account also named TheRcholic, which, again, judging by the tone of their comments, seems to legit be Michael. [[User:UmJammer Lammy|UmJammer Lammy]] ([[User talk:UmJammer Lammy|talk]]) 20:44, 15 January 2026 (EST)
::::I don't know if Mimms did verify that, though. The audio recordings are I think too poor in quality to tell for sure if it's Snyder in both. Even if TheRcholic was Snyder's usual online handle it might not necessarily be him on CWCki and YouTube. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 02:09, 18 January 2026 (EST)
:::::I think we shouldn't completely deny this being an actual account, but I still don't think it's him either. YouTube didn't have handles back then and impersonation was even more rife than it now is. I'm gonna try another way. [[User:Dodo Conservative|Dodo Conservative]] ([[User talk:Dodo Conservative|talk]]) 14:42, 20 January 2026 (EST)
::::::Also, none of this information can be verified anymore. We should keep any such statements from that account(s) in its section, none in any text beforehand or on other pages, specifically the claims of not being Jewish and of Chris using slurs. [[User:Dodo Conservative|Dodo Conservative]] ([[User talk:Dodo Conservative|talk]]) 14:55, 20 January 2026 (EST)
:::::::Gah, I sound like I'm bitchy, making problems, convoluting things…but I just checked and those comments genuinely point back to the same account? Including the "I'm not Jewish" one. I've confused myself. I'm just gonna leave ALL of this because I'm really stuck and going in circles. Sorry! [[User:Dodo Conservative|Dodo Conservative]] ([[User talk:Dodo Conservative|talk]]) 15:26, 20 January 2026 (EST)

Michael Snyder

2026-01-20T20:17:33Z

Dodo Conservative:

{{Imposter}}
{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}



{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account owned by Michael Snyder. The account was created on 12 April 2010 and its name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold. While there are least two accounts under said name on RC toy forums that suggest this was genuine, one cannot rule out the high possibility of trolls impersonating him to send unprofessional, weening-type messages. Due to the lack of proper archiving, and YouTube not having introduced handles yet, it is not possible to confirm whether each message was actually his. Thus, everything said must be taken with a grain of salt.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior for a supposed manager.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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CWCki:Gossip

2026-01-20T20:06:50Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Michael Snyder */

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==[[Affair with Mother]]==

*Many have come to believe that Chris had sexually assaulted his own mother when the news came out that he has had an incestuous affair with her following the leak of the infamous [[Incest Call]]. This notion would be perpetuated by several YouTubers and news panels, sometimes indirectly by claiming that Barb has dementia. Despite this, Chris has only ever been charged with "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD"<ref group = note>This charge appears to be used for all instances of parent-child and grandparent-grandchild incest at the jail Chris was sent to, probably due to character limits in the charge descriptions, as well as the fact that the text was likely generated from the numeric code for the offense.</ref> after this affair, and was never officially charged for rape or sexual assault.

Along with that, claims that Barbara had dementia had primarily came from begging videos where she could be playing up her frailty to elicit pity for money. (See: [[CWCki:Gossip#Barbara Chandler|Barbara Chandler]]). Therefore, whether or not this affair was entirely consensual is inconclusive.

==[[Anaxis]]==
*It is sometimes stated that Anaxis is female as a result of being referred to by she/her pronouns. However, this was only when he role-played as the character [[Lainchu]], who is female.


==[[Autism]]==
*It is common for observers to attempt to diagnose Chris as having "more than just autism", speculating what other types of disabilities or disorders he may have.
**It is also common to suggest that Chris couldn't possibly be autistic because of his sex drive, or conversely that the Love Quest is his way of overcompensating for the lack thereof. While asexuality (a lack of attraction to other people sexually, which isn't necessarily the same as a low sex drive, since asexuals can masturbate to pure sensation) is more common among autistic people, it is far from universal.
**Chris's lack of singing ability has been occasionally attributed to his autism. While a lack of control of inflections, or standard presentation thereof, is a common trait of autistic ''speech'', autistic people are actually more likely to excel in analyzing, hearing, imagining ("audiation"), and producing exact pitches, and are more likely to have perfect pitch.
**Some people claim that Chris was self-diagnosed. His [[Autism papers]] differ.
**Many also view mild autism as being synonymous with mild intellectual disability. However, autistics are often of normal or high intelligence. Chris's IQ is unknown.
**Chris has occasionally been accused of having a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Such a condition has neither been confirmed or denied. While Chris has occasionally hinted at believing cartoon characters to be real, he does clearly separate that "reality" from the actual reality by acknowledging them as existing in a separate dimension. While him seeing the characters might sound like Chris hallucinating, further analysis reveals that Chris is simply imagining them.
***While Chris post-jail has exhibited what some have identified as side-effects of ''anti''psychotics (such as mild sedation, rapid weight gain after losing most of it in prison, twitches that can't be explained as stims, etc.), those drugs are often prescribed as mere tranquilizers to people for a variety of reasons, including as an elective treatment for autistic irritability, and Chris never confirmed or denied taking them anyway.

==[[Autism disorder deferred disposition]]==
*Though Chris was dismissed from the case regarding his affair with Barb accounting for his autism, it should be noted he wasn't found innocent either. The records regarding the full scope of the case are sealed.

==[[Bailey Jay]]==
*It is often rumored that Chris was actually not disgusted by Bailey at all, and in fact was hitting on her. This appears to come from the fact that Chris still called her "pretty", even after discovering she was a "[[hermaphrodite]]", and the rather vague way he responded to her apologizing for accidentally sending him more nude photos after his initial shock. Though this isn't entirely impossible, it also hasn't been fully proven that this was the case.

==[[Barbara Chandler]]==
*Gossipers often speculate on whether Barbara has dementia, mainly based on occasional begging videos directed by Chris from the mid-2010s where she appears to have delayed speech or lapses in memory. However, such videos offer an incomplete and warped perspective of Barbara, as background context - such as how coherent Chris was in explaining what he wanted filmed - is unknown. In contrast, videos where Barbara either [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017|walked in on a livestream]] or was [[Chris Chan VS. The Internet|interviewed without Chris's involvement]] show her as more cognizant. Other glimpses at Barbara's life from that point on show her handling her own [[debt]] better than Chris,<ref>Despite owing more than Chris, she has avoided garnishment filings unlike Chris</ref> managing her own doctor appointments,<ref>[[The Place chats (November 2020)#Chris's Body Shakes]]</ref> and even reminding Chris of his own debt hearing,<ref>[[Other chats leaked by Naught (September 2020)#Debt hearing, toys, Merge]]</ref> all of which points against the dementia theory. In August 2019, Chris claimed Barbara did not have dementia.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Barb ain't dead yet + Magi-Chan's likes]]</ref>

==[[Bob Chandler]]==
*Bob's rather complicated relationship with Chris is often times simplified into either being entirely good or entirely bad.
**It is sometimes stated that Bob had stopped caring about Chris at some point in his life, and only showed concern for his involvement with trolls for his own purposes. Such instances of this include supposedly paying Chris's high school gal-pals for their time with Chris, as well as his [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|intervention with Chris]] when trolls leaked their address online. These are based on speculation, however.
*One rumor is that Bob did Chris's college work for him, but isn't proven, and Chris's poor grades indicate otherwise.
*Bob is sometimes stated to be a Korean War veteran. This is incorrect. He served in the US Army Signal Corps during [[wikipedia:Operation Blacklist Forty|Operation Blacklist Forty]] — the American occupation of the southern half of Korea after World War II — and was discharged in 1948, never seeing combat.

==[[Caden Peck]]==
*It was believed for some time that Caden Peck had approved of Larry Vaughn's plan to send Chris to Florida, though this came from Vaughn reiterating what [[Bella]], who has been known to betray her associates (in this case Praetor) told him.
*It is often stated that Caden had staged some of the [[Sightings|Post-Jail sightings]] in order to promote sales towards Praetor, usually attributing accounts that post their photos to him posting them through the use of throwaway and sock puppet accounts on websites such as [[Reddit]] and [[Kiwi Farms]]. However, such claims come down to conjecture, and there are so far no confirmed cases of this.

==[[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History]]==
*It is often said that the ''Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History'' documentary series by [[Geno Samuel]] had a lot of influence on Christory. However, the only major confirmed instance of its influence on Christory was inspiring [[KwaiiSandbag]] to troll Chris in 2021, which lead to snapping Chris out of the idea he was [[Spirit possession|body swapped]] with Sonichu.

==[[Clyde Cash]]==
*It is believed by some that the Clyde Cash persona was played by multiple people taken on by one identity. While several people would go under the name "Clyde Cash", mostly for completely unrelated plans, the original persona most associated with Christory was played by a single troll. This same troll would play as other characters in Christory, including [[Vivian Gee]], Gregg Mays, and [[Mao Ling]].



==[[Emergency Protective Order]]==

*Though the document lists Barb as a "victim", and ordered Chris to be taken away from Barb, who was deemed an "alleged abused person", Chris was still only charged for incest under Virginia Law, which doesn't specify a victim.

==[[Fiona Cooper]]==
Fiona Cooper, also known as Snoo or "The Suitress", was invited by Chris to join him and Bella to the [[Brony]] convention [[Everfree Northwest]]. Bella then invited Fiona into one of her Discord servers after she and Fiona were invited into The WCT's [[Knights of CWC]] server. After Bella had a call with Chris regarding his affair with his mother, she gave a clip of it to Fiona, who then shared it to a group of people in another server, causing it to get leaked.

*Much like with Chris, Fiona being autistic led to a flurry of misconceptions, with many sources putting great emphasis on this facet of her.
**It is sometimes stated that Fiona was mentally handicapped as a result of her being autistic. In actuality, autism is a spectrum, and affects those who have it differently, excelling in some areas over others; intellectual or otherwise. The belief that Fiona is mentally impaired appears to stem from the fact that [[Spooky Bones]] made a post on Kiwi Farms discouraging others from doxing Fiona, while calling her an "extremely autistic young woman". Despite such claims, nothing about Fiona indicates she's intellectually or otherwise mentally impaired.
**It is sometimes speculated that Chris supposedly didn't pursue Fiona because of her autism, citing his attraction sign, which explicitly stated that he didn't want an autistic girlfriend. This is ignoring the fact that said attraction sign was created 20 years before he met Fiona, and that Chris's tastes have drastically evolved over time.
**Fiona being autistic, combined with being framed by Bella, also led to the assumption of Fiona being a Chris-like figure, with some even going as far to claim she's more of a "vulnerable adult" than Chris is. This had led to the belief she was meant to serve as a "fall girl" and many of the other rumors mentioned in this section, with beliefs in her being mentally impaired leading to the assumption that she didn't have accountability in her involvement in Christory.
*It is a common belief that Fiona asked to be censored on the CWCki and elsewhere, with some accounts stating she changed her mind afterwards. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests in the first place, and even actively went against people's attempts at censoring her. The obfuscation of Fiona primarily arose from stigma surrounding her getting doxed followed by Bella framing her. Additionally, the Suitress policy on the CWCki was an entirely unilateral decision made by a single CWCki jerkop, [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] in response to this stigma. He also did not ask for the input of other users on the CWCki, nor did he ask Fiona personally if she wanted to be censored. Upon returning on a throwaway account on Reddit, Fiona both announced she was the "Everfree Suitress" and posted a picture of herself promoting her throwaway. The belief that she wanted censorship appears to stem from the fact that Psycho's inspiration for the policy was the Wallflower policy, where that actually did happen.
*It is a commonly held belief that Fiona wanted to be Chris's sweetheart. While she had admitted to having an actual crush on him, she had never actually stated to have a desire to be a sweetheart of his, or to be in a long-term relationship with him. She would claim in texts, however, that she was "fine with the friends with benefits thing" and that Chris considers her his "first real sweetheart".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Discussion of Incest]]</ref>
*Along with the first point, it is often speculated by observers why Chris supposedly didn't pursue a relationship with Fiona, and chose Barbara over her. In reality, Chris seemed to have held a rather conflicting standpoint towards her attraction towards him, claiming in chats and calls that he didn't see the relationship lasting long, forseeing that she'd meet a long-term sweetheart in college. However, Chris would also promise to her in a recording regarding Everfree Northwest not to be enraged at the G5 merchandise that may show up, and state that he "loved" her. He would also claim in a text that having sex with her would be the right step for her to take both for her "emotional and mental development". Fiona would also claim in a conversation with Bella that Chris was "embarressed and nervous" at the thought of his first real sweetheart. Chris would also refer to her by a pet name, "Fifi", that he had given to her in a [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022|jail letter]]. Along with all of that, Chris had been having his affair with his mother since late June, roughly a month before he ever met Fiona.
*It is often claimed that Bella wanted to film Chris having sex with Fiona for blackmail purposes, usually following that she'd do this to frame him as a [[pedofork|pedophile]]. This appears to be a rumor loosely based on two excerpts from the [[Incest Call]] and excerpts from leaked messages involving Bella. With regards to the Call, the first excerpt was where Bella discusses her friend [[Fiona]] (who held a crush on Chris) and tries to encourage Chris to pursue a relationship with her. In the second, Bella said she would create a slideshow of romantic stuff between Chris and Fiona during the [[Everfree Northwest]] convention festivities. Bella does not seem to actually state wanting to put any sexual content into the presentation. Adding onto that, Chris already discussed with Bella about the planned sexual intercourse he'd have with Fiona before she made the call. With regards to the leaked messages, Bella tried to create a cover story to protect Fiona when questioned by the Knights, claiming she was a minor. This was after the calls got leaked, and after plans for the convention were arranged, so it is unlikely that Bella intended to frame Chris of being a pedophile.
*It is sometimes stated that Fiona was a victim of sexual abuse, explaining certain factors such as her crush towards Chris. Though this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, this hasn't been fully confirmed. Additionally, since her account was deleted prior, some of the evidence for this came from Kiwi Farms users trying to attribute her to posts from deleted accounts on the CWCki's Discord server being referred to as "Snoo", her screenname on said server. This search for her posts also didn't account for the fact that she used a second account, which used an entirely different name, "ScootalooSister", after being banned from the server the first time.<ref group = note>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#The Suitress and Associates|Anaxis]] claims that Fiona wasn't aware she got banned prior to making the second account, though she also stated that people on there naturally "missed her".</ref>
**In addition to this, Bella is often cited to want to "steal" Fiona from Chris, often to represent it as her wanting to sexually assault her. Such claims, however, are based on out-of-context chats involving Bella stating that she became "besties" with Fiona, and swore to protect her from Chris.<ref>[[Chess club#More Bella Thirst]]</ref> This also ignores the fact that Fiona herself engaged in flirtatious behaviors with Bella, sending her a picture of both her face and legs, and telling Bella she "had sex with men", meaning that whatever feelings Bella had towards Fiona were entirely consensual.<ref>[[Chess club#Bella Thirst]]</ref> Bella had also stated that she only wanted to go to the convention to dance with Fiona at the Grand Galloping Gala event at the convention but otherwise hadn't expressed anything beyond that.<ref>[[Chess club#Everfree Dance]]</ref>
*It is often stated that Fiona was brought to a "mental hospital" or was "institutionalized" after her encounters with Chris, with the story usually stating it was a result of GiBi leaking her phone number or as a result of Bella framing her. Chris also repeated this rumor in an interview he had with Keffals. In actuality, this is an exaggeration made regarding events surrounding Fiona being told to the Mean Girls by her friend Grant. One of the Mean Girls had stated that Grant told them that Fiona had her internet privileges revoked, and "may have" been brought into inpatient psychiatric care.<ref>{{cite farms|thread = 96787|post = 9663622|writer = Basalas}}</ref> Grant seemed to have chosen not to give the exact details surrounding this, but this essentially means that Fiona was temporarily brought to therapy for a short period, likely overnight. This is not the same thing as being put in a "mental hospital".

==[[Flutter]]==
After Chris was released from Jail, he was spotted many times with an unnamed gal-pal, usually referred to as "Flutter". Often deemed as being one of the most mysterious aspects of Christory, several rumors surrounding her and her relations to Chris had naturally arisen afterwards.

*Some believe that Flutter was a recruit from [[Praetor]], though actual proof of this has yet to surface.
*It is often supposed that Flutter is Finnish (or perhaps Finnish-American) since Chris began studying Finnish in [[Duolingo]] for no particular reason around the time he met her and subsequently went to Finland multiple times with her. However, these factors cannot be classified as hard proof. Additionally, one observer stated that she had no noticeable foreign accent and other claimed that she spoke with an affected "anime girl" voice.
*It is sometimes stated that Flutter might be mentally handicapped. While this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, most of this comes down to conjecture than anything substantiated. This appears to be based on Chris's encounters with [[Fiona]], which had occurred under similar circumstances. One of the people who spotted Flutter with Chris claimed that she wasn't "noticeably" handicapped.
*It is claimed that Flutter frequented several Finnish image boards, though the identity of this poster hasn't been disclosed.
*It was once written on Flutter's page by the ween [[Xela]] that when she wore a facemask and sunglasses both to the airport and at a convention, she did this as a means to avoid attention from weens. Several other similar rumors about Flutter's face being obscured in photos would soon follow, with some even accusing those who took photos of her and Chris of being in cahoots with people like [[Caden Peck]].<ref group=note>There are a few photos of Flutter that do show her face, such as the image used in her infobox, so this is demonstrably false.</ref> Once again, while it is not entirely impossible that Flutter is trying to conceal her identity, almost all signs of this are circumstantial at best.
*Also on Flutter's page, it was written that there was a possibility that Flutter showed reciprocity for Chris when he allegedly "hugged" her at a CVS, stating that her body language "didn't indicate" reciprocity,<ref group = note>Specifically wording it like this not only assumes that it is known for a fact that Chris did advance on her, but also implies that because it hasn't been disproven, one could assume she expressed feelings back towards him.</ref> though this was based on a very blurry photo of them where not all of the details can be made out. This means it would be impossible to make out either of their body languages. While the person who took the photos had claimed that Flutter was uncomfortable with Chris's supposed advances, their claims have yet to be fully verified.
*Xela also knowingly spread a rumor that Chris and Flutter were going to have a baby some time in the summer of 2025 for the sole purpose of stirring up drama. He based this rumor on a misheard clip of a livestream. This rumor got promoted by several sources, including Null himself, so much so that it even made it onto tabloid media such as the ''Daily Mail''. In actuality, Chris had never discussed any such plans of having a child with Flutter, and was in fact speaking hypothetically of such a scenario.
*Flutter's first name is rumored to be "Auli" (an uncommon, old-fashioned Finnish woman's name) on the basis of a alleged call<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92TwU2gNZVA</ref> between a financial [[enabler]] and Chris posted to YouTube on 12 June 2025. In the call, the enabler tries to get Chris's guard down by asking him questions about [[Transformers|Autobots]] and [[Count Graduon]] before abruptly asking "Does Eileen know about this?", causing Chris to respond "Her name is Auli". Some have argued that the call was created using AI voice simulation tools or is otherwise inauthentic. Even if the call is authentic, it hasn't been confirmed that "Auli" is the correct spelling of the name.

==[[Gal pal]]==
*It is often asserted that Chris's high school "[[gal pal]]s" were paid by [[Bob]] to hang out with him during school hours and look out for him. Conversations between trolls and the former "friends" indicate that they had some kind of informal arrangement with Bob and the school principal, but there is no indication that they were ever paid for their services. When Chris was in middle school, however, Bob did pay a girl named Natasha to walk with him to and from the bus stop, with Chris handing her the money himself.<ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Natasha]]</ref>
*Chris himself now believes that his supposed friends were paid to hang out with him, causing him to disparage them as "hired help". This is based on a conversation he had with a troll who was posing as one of the friends in question. After he was told they had been paid, he asked [[Barbara]] if that was true and she told him it was. However, it is likely that Barb was never familiar with the details of the arrangement and may have had them confused with Natasha.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals]]</ref>
*People sometimes cite fake quotes from the troll [[Thetan]], who impersonated Chris' High School gal-pals, as evidence for them supposedly loathing Chris or regretting their friendships with him. It is also entirely unlikely that these gal-pals would have expressed any feelings about Chris' online presence, as they have long since moved on with their lives and have families.

==[[GiBi]]==
[[File:GiBi discusses Bella and the Suitress screenshot.png|thumb|200px|GiBi neglected to redact one of the phone numbers when showing screenshots (under red censor bar; screenshot was uncensored in his video). The number allegedly belonged to Fiona. This was the basis for much speculation.]]

GiBi, a semi-popular Christuber made a daily series regarding the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]] of Christory. He consulted several conflicting sources for information regarding the act, one of which was Bella. Bella tried to convince him that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", which GiBi argued for.

Bella also took screenshots of her DMs with Fiona and Chris and gave them to GiBi to leak. The screenshots included header information on names and phone numbers for both. When making a video on the screenshots, GiBi attempted to crop out the header information - while he succeeded at most, he neglected to crop two instances, leaving Fiona's phone number briefly visible. When told of this by Kiwi Farms users, GiBi promptly deleted the video and redid it to censor one instance, but failed to catch the other. When informed again, he again deleted the video. GiBi later posted the screenshots onto Kiwi Farms where he applied censorship to Fiona's phone number (and not Chris's).

*Before the uploading of the infamous video by him where he leaks Fiona's phone number, GiBi would mention on the Kiwi Farms about getting information on the leaks from a "friend" of his, alongside Bella. The "friend" that GiBi was talking to was presumed to be [[The WCT]]. In actuality, the friend was a CCCC user that went under the username "LavenderBonez" on that server, who seemed to be supportive of Fiona leaking a chunk of the incest call, even going as far as calling her a "hero".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#CCCC Incest Call Leak]]</ref>
*In its earliest form, [[GiBi]] had a section of the [[Orbiter Wave]] page, which initially covered people that were prominent during the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]]. In it, his leaking of Fiona's number was characterized as intentional from being prompted by Bella's disinformation. The section originally stated that ''Immediately accepting Bella's story that the entire scandal was the fault of Fiona, he then leaked Fiona's phone number in one of his videos for thousands to see.'' It appears to be speculation that there was a link between the phone number leak and Bella's story. The section was also revised to clarify that the leak was in the form of screenshots of text messages between Bella and Fiona in which a phone number was not redacted.


==[[Honor Roll]]==
*Whether Chris made the Honor Roll, or exactly what such a feat entailed around the time of his graduation, is unknown.

==[[Incest Call]]==
A key aspect regarding the drama that followed from Chris's affair had primarily come from how clips of this call had been leaked. So far, only four clips of varying lengths of this call had ever been leaked, all with various amounts of context. Because of this, many unproven claims regarding the people involved in the [[Incest]], [[Watchmen]], and [[Lainchu]] sagas have been heavily propagated.

*The date of the Call is unclear, which in turn has lead to gossip on what [[Bella]] wanted to do with the call. Evidence points to either 27 July 2021 or 28 July 2021 as the call date, however much of the evidence was from Bella's screenshots, and she has a history of creating [[Fabricated BDSM texts|fabricated texts at least once.]]

==[[Isabella Loretta Janke]]==
Isabella Loretta Janke is most known for her involvement in a call where Chris describes incestuous acts he's performed towards his mother. Before this, Bella had been in touch with Chris for almost a year, acting nice around him, while also showing many instances of A-logging or wishing harm towards him in Discord chats, sometimes outright claiming to want to make him harm himself. She would also roleplay as prior [[gal pal]]s like Kellie Andes and an employee for the Curiosity Stream, and has been known to encourage the verbal harassment and bullying of other students at her university. This edgy behavior would lead to many instances of misinformation or unproven claims resulting from the chaos around the [[Incest Call]], gossip on [[Kiwi Farms]], much of which was perpetuated by user [[Spooky Bones]], being taken at face value, and Bella's alleged plots towards Chris.
*It is often stated that Bella had convinced Chris to commit incest on his mother. In actuality, Bella was in a call with him, where Chris had discussed the matter openly with her. Chris had told her multiple times of instances of having an affair with a "sweetheart over 50", and had even admitted to having a wet dream of his mother in one other instance.
*It was initially written that Bella had a suicide plot towards Chris dating back to 25 April 2020. This was based on a Discord user, ZorgothTDK, who alleged that DMs between him and Bella, in which a Deleted User states "That's what we're trying to do with Chris [...] Get him be suicidal [...] Bc he's retarded", were Bella discussing Chris Chan. However, Bella knew of two other people named Chris - her cousin and another Discord user - making it unclear if she was referring to Chris Chan. Though ZorgothTDK claims that Bella was referring to Chris Chan, the full log of his conversation with the Deleted User makes no indication that Chris Chan was being discussed.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bella-janke-allegedly-planning-cwc-suicide-since-april-2020.97773/</ref> In addition, communication between Bella and Chris Chan has not been established for the time frame of April 2020 - [[Bella chats#Curiosity Stream|the earliest known message from Bella to Chris Chan occurred in October 2020]]. The exact time at which Bella had actually started interacting with Chris is not known, but she has claimed in one instance to have started trolling Chris for almost a year to one of her Chess Club associates in a July 2021 Discord message.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/servers-zip.2416454/ Zip file of Chess Club Discord leaks hosted at Kiwi Farms]. See "Chess club - chess" at 19-Jul-21 11:29 AM timestamp</ref> However, in two other instances, Bella would claim to a friend that she did have a plan to get Chris to kill himself in one instance,<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> and claim that she wanted Praetor members to convince him to cut off his penis in another, and hoping that he would die from a gender reassignment surgery accident.<ref name=animation>{{cite farms|thread=79414|post=8539683|title=YT 11/13/20 - Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation}}</ref>
*It was initially written that Bella had a blackmail plot involving the [[Incest Call]]. Usually this claim is in conjunction with the claim that Bella wanted to record Chris having sex with Fiona. While Bella had intended to leak the call after an unspecified point, and had created fake texts where Chris states he performed BDSM-style sex with Barb in the meantime, it is not known for sure if this would have involved blackmailing Chris.
*It was initially written that Bella self-assigned her bodyguard role for [[Everfree Northwest]], however Chris had assigned her the role.<ref>[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]</ref>
*It is believed by some that Bella had an incest fetish, part of the reason for her call with Chris. This would even be written a few times in articles that mention her. However, whether or not Bella was actually into incest is unclear. This in part seems to come from an incest fanfiction that she had allegedly created under the account '''narutoisgay77897''', which involves a father-son relationship between Naruto characters. However, the link between this account and Bella is unclear, and the account itself has "Im into engineering and electromagnetism and shit but u wont find any of that shit here, only gay hentai bitches." as its description, suggesting that it could be a troll account, if created by her. The account therefore cannot be used to prove this, as its legitimacy is questionable. A user by the name of '''Gungann''' would also continuously question Bella on this point, citing part of a transcription of her call with Chris which claims that she talked to Chris while aroused, though he doesn't give the source for this particular transcript, or where he was reading it from.
*It was once written on the [[Discord]] page that Bella was a member of the [[Discord#Official CWCki Server|Official CWCki Server]] before the call. This was loosely based off a policy on the server where mentioning or talking about her is prohibited, as moderators on the server were notified about harassment on the server, and were concerned of the possibility that either she or her friends would report the server if they found out that anyone was discussing her.

==[[Jail Saga]]==
*The letters that Chris had written in jail could not be used as evidence against him in court, as they were strictly his word.

==[[Jeff Ouzuo]]==
*Jeff/Francine did not create the ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'' fangame. It was the CWCki Forums user Maple. Because of Chris declaring this, several people came to believe that Jeff/Francine was Maple.



==[[Lainchu]]==
*The Lainchu character wasn't a troll persona. The character itself was created by Chris as a coping mechanism for the purpose of explaining certain events in his life. Chris entrusted the Watchmen to control Lainchu so that he could be "chronicled" properly. The Watchmen later used the persona with the intention of documenting select chats with his permission, and later for observers to ask him questions by proxy when he got banned from the CWCki Discord server.
*It was once written on [[The WCT]]'s page that he was the primary Lainchu, though this was incorrect. He had attempted to steal the role from [[Anaxis]] but Chris rejected the attempt.

==[[Liquid Chris]]==

*It is often stated that Liquid Chris was a single person. In actuality, Liquid was played by a set of twins, Christopher and Jon Duckworth. While Christopher played as Chris in Youtube videos and PVCC chats, Jon played Liquid during the Sing-Star Challenge.
*While [[The Miscreants]] (group of trolls including the one behind Clyde Cash) would claim Liquid Chris, the brothers and girlfriend behind Liquid Chris and Kacey alike appear to have started their trolling independently, after Christopher Duckworth began comically impersonating Chris Chan.
*Liquid Chris started impersonating Chris a month before the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, and was barely influenced by this video.

==[[Megan Schroeder]]==
*It is often stated that Chris ruined his friendship with her by posting [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. In reality, their friendship had already been long deteriorating at that point; [[Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007|email correspondences]] from that period show that Megan was already getting sick of Chris's creepy behavior and [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] have stated that Megan was already avoiding Chris before the photo was posted online. SheCameForCWC.jpg was just the point where things came to such a head that Megan was forced to cut off all contact with Chris.
*It later surfaced that Chris did not shred the physical copy of SheCameForCWC.jpg before placing it in the [[Crumple-Lope]], but neatly cut it into squares.
*It is often stated that Megan was the only legitimate female friend that Chris had that wasn't a troll. While Megan is the most well-known one, this is ignoring people in Chris's life like [[Anna McLerran]], [[The Wallflower]], [[Fiona Cooper]], the [[Pokémon League friends]], [[Tings Tingz]], [[MKRNightVee]], [[Helena Fiorenza]], [[Midnight Moonflower]], and [[Flutter]].

==[[Michael Snyder]]==
*There is no evidence that Michael is or is not Jewish, either by faith or ethnicity. This came from Chris believing him to be such due to his last name.
*''An'' account with the name "TheRcholic" has been confirmed to actually be Michael's, and there are accounts on RC toy forums using the name in completely Chris-unrelated posts. Due to YouTube's lack of handles and lower moderation at the time, however, it is extremely likely that the real account and troll impersonators existed side-by-side. Since these events are too far back to be verified now, anything said (particularly, claims of Chris using slurs and Michael not being Jewish) is best taken with a grain of salt.

==[[Monthly Tugboat]]==
*It was previously written on the page that Chris would earn more money overall if he got an actual job and didn't rely solely on the tugboat. This however was built off of a number of assumptions and speculative information.
*Bob did not actually believe that Chris would make more money off of the Tugboat, and actually was hoping that Chris would find actual employment, expressing being impressed at Chris's computer literacy and him obtaining two CADD degrees.<ref>[[Bob Call 6]]</ref>

==[[Niggos]]==
*Chris had never said the word "nigger" outside of troll interference. He also never said the phrase "no darkies". This came from a piece of fan art parodying his attraction sign.

==[[OfficialCWCmart]]==
*It is often said that Chris only makes 7% off of the sales from OfficialCWCMart. However, this estimate conflates his royalty from the Praetor-made medallions with the stuff that he makes himself. It is currently unknown how much of the content sold on the Etsy was from Chris collaborating with Praetor.

==[[Pedofork]]==
*Although not impossible, all evidence of Chris being a pedophile so far comes from untrustworthy sources or instances where trolls pressured him into saying such things, so it is unwise to assume so.

==[[Praetor]]==
*[[Larry Vaughn]]'s claims about Praetor were once written on their article. However, he based these claims off of things that were said verbatim by [[Bella]], a known habitual liar who has on several occasions lied about her own associates. A few such claims include:
**Praetor were a group of trolls akin to the [[Idea Guys]] or the [[Teen Troon Squad]]
**They produced a lot of their merchandise in a "nasty basement".
**Larry's plan to send Chris to Florida was approved by Caden.
**Chris roleplayed as Sonichu at all times.
**Chris was still going after his high school gal-pals to the point of people needing to change their profiles.
**Chris was tazing himself out of fear that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen.
*It is often stated that [[Bella]] was a member of Praetor due to the fact that she was commissioned by them to create an animation, and the fact that Larry Vaughn cited her as such. Despite this, Bella was never involved in any of their other projects.

==[[Rocky Shoemaker]]==
*It was once written on Rocky's article that she had used BlueSky, and that Chris had blocked her account. In actuality this was an imposter account that was created with the intent on trolling Chris.

==[[Sylvana Rosechu]]==
*It is often mistakenly believed that Sylvana always had a penis. In reality, she started out as a female Rosechu, but Chris introduced the lore of being made intersex in [[Sonichu 8]], where she had the ability to give herself a penis or a vagina at will, as a component of her ability to shapeshift. This was a condition from Count Graduon that she lose her ability to give birth. Similar to Rosechu, however, Silvana was often portrayed with a penis by trolls to exploit Chris's distaste for [[Hermaphrodite|hermaphrodites]].
*It is sometimes stated that Sylvana Rosechu was created to represent all of the instances that Chris was catfished by trolls, with a scene in [[Sonichu 10]], where Chris is "trolled" by being seduced by her disguised as [[Meg Griffin]], often being brought up as evidence for this. However, Chris has also stated that his intention for that scene was that Sylvana was "all female" when she seduced him. Some of Chris's interactions with trolls also seem to indicate that Sylvana's ability was a result of troll influence. Chris has stated that he prefers to have fans draw her with a vagina instead of a penis, and the infamous drawing of her masturbating was a commission from [[Sarah May]], who bribed Chris to make the drawing and similar drawings to get his website back.

==[[Taser]]==
*It is believed by some that Praetor wanted to get Chris to tase himself. In actuality, Chris had discussed plans with Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[Kyle]] about plans to shock his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] quartz crystals in order to open up a portal to another dimension, citing a Gaia article about ancient civilizations using piezoelectricity to open up portals. Chris wanted to borrow a taser from Praetor to tase the crystals. Praetor was initially willing to allow him to use it under their supervision. The rumor that they wanted to get him to tase himself was first started by the Watchmen leader [[Naught]], who had posted out-of-context clips of Watchmen members talking to the founder and leader of Praetor, [[Caden Peck]], and alleging that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed". Naught had also left out a clip where the Watchman Val Valentino brought up the subject, and is asking if Chris would tase himself, and Caden Peck discussing how he felt it would be a bad idea. Interestingly, [[Isabella Janke]], a minor member of Praetor, had also spread a rumor that she had tried convincing Praetor members to get Chris to harm himself by getting him to cut his penis off, while claiming she was only "recruited".

==[[The Wallflower]]==
*The Wallflower policy appears sometimes to get conflated with the Suitress policy, where it is often stated that Fiona asked for people to censor her. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests to anyone.
*The Wallflower policy wasn't set up out of "respect" for the Wallflower, as the CWCki has no obligation to protect people arbitrarily; it was done as a personal request from her to CWCki admins after editors shared information about her that wasn't relevant to Chris; in addition to Chris persistently stating he was in a relationship with her; due to her unintentionally being associated with him. Additionally, the policy is primarily enforced solely on the CWCki and its Discord server.
*Contrary to popular belief, the Wallflower policy did allow users to utilize the Wallflower's identity to some degree, particularly if omitting such information might affect the clarity of information surrounding Chris. Many transcripts that didn't reference Chris being in a "relationship" with her were transcribed faithfully, utilizing her first name, and several pages on this wiki also still use art and images that utilize her face. The page [[CWCki:The Wallflower|meant to explain the Wallflower policy]] also admits that attempting to censor the Wallflower in full is not only impossible, but even detrimental to documenting Chris.
*Chris never referred to the Wallflower as "Lovely Weather". This misconception was a result of people assuming the [[Lovely Weather|character of the same name]] from the comics was based on the Wallflower. However, Chris has denied any connection between them.

==[[The WCT]]==

One of the primary members of the [[Watchmen]].

*It was initially written that The WCT wanted Chris to kill himself. This originated from a rumor spread by [[MKRNightVee]], his former associate in the Watchmen Discord server [[The Place]]. In June 2021, the [[Watchmen]] clique was infighting over [[Naught]] posting The WCT's dox onto Kiwi Farms. WCT responded by informing Chris, who left The Place. Angry over this development, MKR took to Twitter to spread a rumor that WCT "probably wants Chris to kill himself".<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref> A month later, the rumor was further spurred by Kiwi Farms forum posters, who assumed from both MKR's rumor and WCT's interactions with Bella (who had claimed on at least two occasions to want to get Chris to harm himself or commit suicide) that WCT was in on Bella's supposed plots. Despite this, no evidence has surfaced that WCT knew of Bella's claimed plots.
*It was initially written in a few articles that Chris had directly contributed to the mass doxing of Fiona by sharing one of her pictures with the WCT. Chris, although posting her photograph to him, would also refer to her by her pen name, "Fifi Vixenhart". The WCT wouldn't have become aware of her real name, or actually dox her, until later, when Bella had told him in the [[Regarding Chris]] chats that Fiona was the sole provider of fabricated texts where Chris states he's done BDSM on Barb while she was doxing her on multiple websites. The WCT would post one of Fiona's videos and use her first name, partially revealing her identity and bringing attention from trolls onto her.
*It was initially written that The WCT had been recruited into Bella's [[Chess Club]] Discord server. He had actually been invited into a separate server, [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]]. This error was based on mislabeled folders of Discord server chatlogs which were passed around on Kiwi Farms - the folders were labelled "Chess Club" and "Chess Club ft Fiona and CWC", however the actual content was [[Chess Club]] and [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]] chatlogs.
*The WCT is often misquoted as proclaiming himself as being "the final protagonist of Christory", which was often used as evidence for knowing that Chris was going to commit suicide. In actuality, in his boasting, he proclaimed himself as "'''one of the final''' protagonists", proclaiming that his work will be held in high regard in Geno's documentary, and be compared to figures such as [[Null]]. Additionally, he said this in reference to the Watchmen's belief that Barb's death would be the end of Christory, a belief that WCT had held strongly.
**Likewise, it was also believed that when he titled his pre-jail interview with Chris as the "Final Pre-Jail interview", he also meant this as knowing Chris was going to commit suicide, ignoring the fact that this was indeed the last interview he had with Chris before he went to jail.

==[[Transgender]]==

Chris' shift in gender identity and subsequent identification as a lesbian/bisexual transwoman has been a subject of intense debate and scrutiny within and outside of LGBT+ circles, with some believing that it is yet another act designed to enable him to shack up with lesbian women, and still others claiming that Chris openly admitted that this was the case. While the possibility of the former cannot be entirely discounted, no known admission of this nature has ever been made by Chris personally, and none of the assorted chat logs and correspondences leaked since Chris began his transition suggest this either.
*It is often stated that Chris admitted to adopting a [[transgender]] identity solely so that he could hook up with lesbians. This appears to be a confusion for an answer that Chris had posted to a question on [[OkCupid]], where he states that if he were to raise a "[[hermaphrodite]]", a term which he has used to refer to trans women, he'd raise them as a male so that they can pick up women (including lesbians).<ref group = note>The exact thing that Chris said, when answering whether or not intersex children should get surgery , was: "If a Hermaphrodite, I would raise it to be male regardless since it would not have any eggs anyway. Plus big bonus for (him) in sex with all women (lesbians included I would imagine)."</ref>
*Many suggest that "Christine" is a fake name. It is in fact his legal first name as of 2016. The CWCki, however, still uses "Chris" and (to a lesser extent) "Christian" for consistency.
*While Chris has shown early signs of dysphoria, going far back to his times at [[Manchester High]], these shouldn't be taken as a singular cause for it.

==[[Trolls]]==
*Some of Chris's trolls, particularly most of the Miscreants, are often represented as figures that tried to "help" Chris. It should be noted that any mention they make of this is mostly tongue-in-cheek, as their primary goal was that of any other Internet troll, to get a rise out of Chris.

==[[Watchmen]]==

*The Watchmen are often misleadingly referred to as an organization of enablers. In reality, the "Watchmen" were a clique of Chris's most prominent enablers and white knights, who had used several different Discord servers. The name "Watchmen" was created directly after some its members were discovered, and connected to previous groups such as [[Son of the Miscreants]] and [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]], as a sort of allusion to [[the Miscreants]]. The WCT, with the intent of cutting ties with the others in the "Watchmen", also dropped the name entirely when he established the Knights of CWC, which had a similar set-up, but a fundamentally different philosophy when handling Chris orbiters.

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| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment from an account posing as him claims that he is not. However, there is no way for a layperson to confirm.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
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==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account supposedly owned by Michael Snyder. The account was created on 12 April 2010 and its name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold. While there are least two accounts under said name on RC toy forums that suggest this was genuine, it cannot be ruled out that trolls likely impersonated him to send unprofessional, weening-type messages. Due to the lack of proper archiving, and YouTube not having introduced handles yet, it is not possible to confirm whether each message was actually his. Thus, everything said should be taken with a grain of salt.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior for a supposed manager.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

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{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment from an account posing as him claims that he is not. However, there is no way for a layperson to confirm.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account supposedly owned by Michael Snyder. The account was created on 12 April 2010 and its name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold. While there are least two accounts under said name on RC toy forums that suggest this was genuine, it cannot be ruled out that trolls likely impersonated him to send unprofessional, weening-type messages. Due to the lack of proper archiving, and YouTube not having introduced handles yet, it is not possible to confirm whether each message was actually his. The

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior for a supposed manager.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

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{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}



{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment from an account posing as him claims that he is not. However, there is no way for a layperson to confirm.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account owned by Michael Snyder. The account was created on 12 April 2010 and its name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold. While there are least two accounts under said name on RC toy forums that suggest this was genuine, it cannot be ruled out that trolls likely impersonated him to send unprofessional, weening-type messages. Due to the lack of proper archiving, and YouTube not having introduced handles yet, it is not possible to confirm whether each message was actually his.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior for a supposed manager.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

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{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}



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| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment from an account posing as him claims that he is not. However, there is no way for a layperson to confirm.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account owned by Michael Snyder. The account was created on 12 April 2010 and its name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold. While there is at least one account under said name genuinely belonging to him, it cannot be ruled out that trolls likely impersonated him to send unprofessional, weening-type messages. Due to the lack of proper archiving, and YouTube not having introduced handles yet, it is not possible to confirm whether each message was actually his.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior for a supposed manager.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Talk:Michael Snyder

2026-01-20T19:42:01Z

Dodo Conservative: /* TheRcholic */

Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean

2026-01-13T18:46:14Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Aftermath */

{{Honest}}
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|thumb|Chris overestimates his own [[power]] as he begs his [[Trolls|True and Loyal Fanbase]] to support his cause.]]

'''Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean''' (full title "'''04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV'''") is an audio recording released by [[Chris]] chronicling an attempt to get himself unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] by confronting [[Michael Snyder]], the [[manajerks|manager]] who permanently ejected him from the store in the summer of [[2008]]. Chris recorded their conversation by hiding a video camera in his pocket. The phrase "ColdHearted" in the title is supposed to be a [[Random-access humor|play on the title]] of ''[[Pokémon]] HeartGold''.

As usual, Chris adds this to his list of fails as Michael is unmoved by his attempts to get back in, and is entirely justified in this belief. According to Michael himself, Chris's plea was a script he had written down on a piece of paper. He also, it seems, can't remember why he was kicked out of the store in the first place. He mentions a "[[Nintendo|Wii]] incident," an occasion where he angered the management with his regular habit of taking over the store's flatscreen TV with his [[video game]] consoles, but otherwise he appears to be genuinely confused as to why Snyder won't let him back in. Oddly, yet hilariously, Chris adds to his streak of [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racist videos]] by shouting "JEW!" at Michael as he leaves the store, [[South Park|like a certain other egotistical psychopathic fat kid]]. Of note, Michael is not confirmed to be Jewish, and the last name Snyder is not a specifically Jewish-German surname.

The conversation took place on 12 [[April 2010]] and Chris uploaded it to [[YouTube]] later the same day. Shortly after it was posted, the recording was removed from YouTube due to a terms of use violation, either because of Chris's antisemitic remarks, because the recording itself may have been [[Chris and the Law|illegal]], or because of the dox and incitement to harass dropped in the description. In the early morning hours of the next day, Chris added a text-only [[:File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|image]] on the front page of [[CWCipedia]] accusing Michael Snyder of [[Kick the Autistic|discriminating against him]] for having [[autism]], and linked to a troll mirror of the deleted video (which he had mistaken for a fan).

One way or another, this video is absolute proof of Chris violating the law—he dropped into the store unannounced with full knowledge that he wasn't supposed to be there. [[Virginia]] defines this as "trespassing", which is a crime punishable by a fine not to exceed $2,500.00, at most one year in prison, or both. According to Mimms, cops were called after this happened, though Michael was unable to press the issue.<ref>[[Talk:Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean#Mimms' Input]]</ref>

==Prelude to the madness==
On 21 April 2010, a [[troll]]-operated sweetheart named [[Jackie]] leaked a number of e-mails<ref>See [[Jackie e-mails]], [[Jackie e-mails Part 2]] and [[Jackie e-mails Part 3]]</ref> between herself and Chris. In one of the letters, Chris reveals that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church the day before the video was released. When one of the cashiers saw Chris and recognized him, he threatened to call the cops. Chris got angry and bolted.

Finding out Michael Snyder would appear the next day, Chris had his plan – approach Michael and attempt to get the ban lifted. Chris's plan was that if Michael did not lift the ban after this long, [[Chris and the Law|he would call the cops]]. Chris hid a camera in his pocket with the intent of using it as evidence in the event he had to resort to this.

==Description==
{{quotebox|This happened on my recent visit to the Game & Hobby Place. My Camera was hidden in my Vest Pocket.

I encourage all to go there in person, find Michael, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|pester/Troll]] the hell out of him (other employees who support him optional). Also say to Michael, "[[Chris and race|Do Not Discriminate]] Against People like Christian Weston Chandler."

243 Ridge McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 984-1040}}

==Video==
{{Tardrage}}
{{Infobox/video
| name = 04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV
| ytid = vAUqb-fL4CY
| stardate = 12 [[April 2010]]
| subject = {{Game Place|[[Michael Snyder]]}}, {{Racism|[[Jews]]}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}, {{Reason|text}}
| saga = {{Game Place|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
| previous = [[F Abstinance]]
| next = [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]}}

{{quote|I'm a better person...|Chris, moments before calling the owner of the store he's banned from a Jew.}}

===Transcript===
[''Chris is speaking into a camcorder. From the sound of it, it seems like he is inside his [[Son-chu|car]].'']

'''Chris:''' This is Christian Weston Chandler, [[Captain's Log]]. Stardate... 4:34 PM, Monday, April 12, 2010. I am about to go into the Game and Comic and Hobby Place — also sell toys there — to get myself, to try to get myself unbanned and get forgiveness for the mistake I have made almost a year ago when I was banned from the store in June of 2008.

[''Heavy [[sigh]] from Chris'']

'''Chris:''' The dude who banned me was, his name is Michael Snyder, possibly a [[Chris and race#Jews|Jew]] considering his last name. Nothing bad against the Jews, but I'm just throwin' it out there. Alright, so, here I go. [''sigh'']

[''Chris turns off the engine and leaves his car. He approaches The GAMe PLACe, and the chime of the store's door alarm can be heard as he goes inside. "Every Morning" by Sugar Ray faintly plays in the background on a nearby radio, while we get a good view of the inside of Chris's pocket.'']

'''Chris:''' Hello, I'm here to see Michael.

'''Employee:''' Yeah, he's in the room back here.

[''We come upon Michael, who is fixing an RC car. His remarks are occasionally interrupted by whoever he is helping. Judging by the audio, Chris is standing relatively close to him, close enough to occasionally hear whoever Michael is speaking with.'']

 '''Michael:''' Well, I mean, you're, you, you'll just see that by running it. I mean, it was running okay the other day. But just, you know, adjust it one way or the other depending on temperature and everything else. But, you know, it just, it's not usually much. By changing fuel, it doesn't usually change... tuning that much. Mmkay... Uh-huh. Yeah, no, it'll be fine... Right, yeah, it'll be fine. [pause] Okay... Okay... Who made it?

[''The recorder seems to move away from the conversation, and a long silence follows. Various store noises occur in the background, including the bell from someone opening the front door.'']

 '''Michael:''' Okay. Alright. Sounds good. Mm-hm. Bye.

[''During Chris's conversation, the background radio eventually goes to a radio host talking, and then "Hot n Cold" by [[Teenage Dream|Katy Perry]].'']

'''Chris:''' Hello, Michael. I see, uh... You've been, I see you're looking well. Haven't changed much since, for the past almost two years. And, yeah, it has been, uh, almost two years since... uh, what happened, uh, June- June 2008. But, uh, I came back hoping that, uh, we could put that behind us and...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' Come on. I mean, it has been almost two years, and it's just been on my mind for so long, just be...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' [''sigh''] But, can't we just [[Chris and remorse|forgive]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|and forget]]?

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' C'mon, to have this...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' ...[[Stress|weight]] on my back...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' And I have really...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' ...missed coming here.

 '''Michael:''' No. No. You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' I'm, [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|I'm a better person...]]

 '''Michael:''' You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' [''heavy sigh''] C'mon, what? Come on, dude...

 '''Michael:''' No! You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' [[Twin Falling Towers|How can you be so heartless?]] I mean, you're, I mean, you're obviously not as mean as one of those [[trolls]] I've been dealing with...

 '''Michael:''' You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' I mean, come on, I mean, obviously you have something against me, [''four beeping noises are heard, possibly Michael dialing out to 911''] because aside from the Wii incident, I just would like to know ''what''. Come on. Gimme a break. Alright, fine, I'll leave.

[''His tone becomes sharp and angry.'']

'''Chris:''' But I hope that [[Chris and religion|God will forgive you]] for being so [[Chris and hypocrisy#"I'll pray for you to open your mind" — Tolerance|heartless and cruel]], Michael Snyder!

 '''Michael:''' He probably will.

'''Chris:''' {{RageQuote|[[Chris and race#Jews|''JEW!'']]}}

[''Chris goes out the door, tape runs out.'']

==Aftermath==
During the confrontation, Michael called the [[jerkops|police]]. However, Chris was long gone by the time they arrived.

On the linked YouTube page, a fake account posing as Snyder named TheRcholic attempted to instigate further drama. They claimed that, while he had attempted to press charges against Chris for trespassing, the police informed him that he had no recourse to pursue legal action for Chris's trespassing or attempts to incite harassment.

{{quotebox|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play?? }}
{{quotebox|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building }}

===A video with video===
The next day, [[Vivian Gee]] made a ''[[South Park]]''-style animation using the audio from this clip. Chris himself stopped by to make it clear that he completely missed the point of the video:

{{quotebox|Hey, Vivian. I'm going to tell you right now that if you were trying to offend me with this "South Park" [[Parody]]; You Failed. This is just SOO FUNNY! You ought to know I like "South Park", especially the less dramatic, more comical episodes. ROFL}}

{{quotebox|Actually, there is ONE more thing you could to just make this a TOPPER of a Comical Scene; I gave him the finger as I left for real, so add a [[Wild Sonichu|Sit-And-Spin]] in the silence right before the final insult. ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL}}

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = episode 200 - the game place
| video = {{#ev:youtube|7un_dBl2q2M}}
| stardate = 13 [[April 2010]]
| maker = [[Vivian Gee]]
| subject =
| type =
| info = }}

5 years later, YouTuber Lolwutburger made another ''South Park''-style animation using the same audio, complete with Chris giving Michael the finger, and a helping of cameos from other Christorical figures.

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = South Park: The GAMe PLACe feat. Chris Chan
| video = {{#ev:youtube|BjjIkVEQ9mU}}
| stardate = 15 [[November 2015]]
| maker = [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoGyB0X46kL5Sk4pM9BquVA Lolwutburger]]
| subject =
| type = Flash Animation
| info = }}

==See also==
* [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place]]
* [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]]
* [[28 October 2011]]

==Sources==
<references />

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Chris and sexuality

2026-01-09T09:01:08Z

Dodo Conservative: This sounds speculative in such a way that it sounds like a bootleg psych evaluation. Hiding so it can be rewritten.

{{Honest}}

: ''This article is specifically about sexual orientations. For Chris's general views and relationship with human sexuality, see [[Chris and sex]].''

{{quote|we can kiss at the future time.|Chris declaring his love for amateur sorcerer [[Jacob Sockness]].<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref>}}

To this day, Chris's '''sexuality''' is very bizarre. Before [[Bob]]'s death, Chris had an intense fear of "[[CWC-isms#S|falling off the straight path]]". He feared that by being in contact with gay people, he himself, would pick up the [[Sonichu 10|gay virus]], and his LoveQuest would take a complete 180. He then identified himself as a "lesbian transwoman" with a "[[CWC-isms#L|lesbian soul]]". Later, the [[Idea Guys]] [[brainwashed]] him into identifying as [[bisexual]].

==Homosexuality==
{{Main|Homos}}

As stated above, Chris used to have an irrational fear towards homosexual men, particularly out of fear that he would become a homo himself. This strange idea stems from his belief that all homosexual men wish to push their sexuality onto other people. As a result, even saying the word "homosexual" made him queasy. As an alternative, he referred to gay men as "homos", an already existing derogatory term for homosexuals. Chris's main justification for his hatred towards homos was that they supposedly go against God's Will, and even used Stewie Griffin's citation of Leviticus as evidence that homosexuality is a sin, despite it being an obvious joke that flew over his head, in which Stewie Griffin himself has shown homoerotic desires throughout [[Family Guy]], while citing why homosexuality is a sinful act.

==Bisexuality==
{{main|Bisexual}}

Up until [[2014]], Chris hasn't been too open on his views on bisexuality. Beforehand, he has hinted traces of tolerance towards bisexuality, though. In [[Mailbag 33]], Chris has hinted that his views on bisexuals were almost no different from his views on homosexuals. When asked about bisexuality, along with other sexualities, Chris simply replies that while [[CWCville#Government and politics|people of all sexualities deserve to be treated equal]], only marriage between man and woman are allowed, implying that Chris may have been somewhat accepting of bisexuals due to one side of them being attracted to the opposite sex.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Mailbag_33</ref>

According to the answers he submitted on a list of OkCupid questions in mid-2014, he would consider dating a bisexual.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_OkCupid_Answers</ref> On the same list of questions, there is a question which asks "If you were going to have a daughter, which sexual orientation would you hope she would have?" and gives the choices "Straight", "Lesbian", "Bisexual", and "It wouldn't matter to me" as possible answers. Chris chose "It wouldn't matter to me" as his answer, hinting once again that besides being tolerant towards straights and lesbians, he seemed to show some amount of tolerance towards bisexuals too. Although, seeing how he hasn't fully accepted male homosexuals until late 2014, this could be because the question was asking specifically about [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|his daughter]], which means that either way, she's straight or lesbian, a win-win situation.

In August 2014, Chris announced that his character [[Christine Rosechu]] is bisexual,<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2014_Facebook_Posts</ref> and attracted to "just about everyone". In March 2017, he commented on a Huffington Post article to offer sympathy to a bisexual woman.<ref>[[March_2017_Facebook_Posts#Keep_an_open_heart_for_bisexuals]]</ref>

In [[March 2018]], the Idea Guys brainwashed Chris into believing he was in relationships with fictional male characters [[Kun T’Nyuget]] and [[Magi-Chan]], and that this meant he was bisexual in real life.



==See Also==
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and gender]]
*[[Heather Iglesias]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Rainbow]]
*[[SLGBTQ]]

{{References}}
{{articleofthenow}}
{{Sexuality}}
{{Chris and}}

Chris and sexuality

2026-01-09T08:57:28Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Bisexuality */

{{Honest}}

: ''This article is specifically about sexual orientations. For Chris's general views and relationship with human sexuality, see [[Chris and sex]].''

{{quote|we can kiss at the future time.|Chris declaring his love for amateur sorcerer [[Jacob Sockness]].<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref>}}

To this day, Chris's '''sexuality''' is very bizarre. Before [[Bob]]'s death, Chris had an intense fear of "[[CWC-isms#S|falling off the straight path]]". He feared that by being in contact with gay people, he himself, would pick up the [[Sonichu 10|gay virus]], and his LoveQuest would take a complete 180. He then identified himself as a "lesbian transwoman" with a "[[CWC-isms#L|lesbian soul]]". Later, the [[Idea Guys]] [[brainwashed]] him into identifying as [[bisexual]].

==Homosexuality==
{{Main|Homos}}

As stated above, Chris used to have an irrational fear towards homosexual men, particularly out of fear that he would become a homo himself. This strange idea stems from his belief that all homosexual men wish to push their sexuality onto other people. As a result, even saying the word "homosexual" made him queasy. As an alternative, he referred to gay men as "homos", an already existing derogatory term for homosexuals. Chris's main justification for his hatred towards homos was that they supposedly go against God's Will, and even used Stewie Griffin's citation of Leviticus as evidence that homosexuality is a sin, despite it being an obvious joke that flew over his head, in which Stewie Griffin himself has shown homoerotic desires throughout [[Family Guy]], while citing why homosexuality is a sinful act.

==Bisexuality==
{{main|Bisexual}}

Up until [[2014]], Chris hasn't been too open on his views on bisexuality. Beforehand, he has hinted traces of tolerance towards bisexuality, though. In [[Mailbag 33]], Chris has hinted that his views on bisexuals were almost no different from his views on homosexuals. When asked about bisexuality, along with other sexualities, Chris simply replies that while [[CWCville#Government and politics|people of all sexualities deserve to be treated equal]], only marriage between man and woman are allowed, implying that Chris may have been somewhat accepting of bisexuals due to one side of them being attracted to the opposite sex.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Mailbag_33</ref>

According to the answers he submitted on a list of OkCupid questions in mid-2014, he would consider dating a bisexual.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_OkCupid_Answers</ref> On the same list of questions, there is a question which asks "If you were going to have a daughter, which sexual orientation would you hope she would have?" and gives the choices "Straight", "Lesbian", "Bisexual", and "It wouldn't matter to me" as possible answers. Chris chose "It wouldn't matter to me" as his answer, hinting once again that besides being tolerant towards straights and lesbians, he seemed to show some amount of tolerance towards bisexuals too. Although, seeing how he hasn't fully accepted male homosexuals until late 2014, this could be because the question was asking specifically about [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|his daughter]], which means that either way, she's straight or lesbian, a win-win situation.

In August 2014, Chris announced that his character [[Christine Rosechu]] is bisexual,<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2014_Facebook_Posts</ref> and attracted to "just about everyone". In March 2017, he commented on a Huffington Post article to offer sympathy to a bisexual woman.<ref>[[March_2017_Facebook_Posts#Keep_an_open_heart_for_bisexuals]]</ref>

In [[March 2018]], the Idea Guys brainwashed Chris into believing he was in relationships with fictional male characters [[Kun T’Nyuget]] and [[Magi-Chan]], and that this meant he was bisexual in real life.

==Asexuality==

Some autistic people simply do not understand sexual attraction (for example, high-functioning autistic and [[Wikipedia:Hug machine|hugbox]] inventor Temple Grandin chooses to be celibate because she admits that she really does not understand sexual attraction and that she lacks the ability, as a consequence of her autism, to engage in a sexual relationship). This could explain some of Chris's views regarding sex and romance; he genuinely cannot understand the appeal of most sexual activity, aside from the fact he's seen people in the media do it and that he thinks that sex is something all men need to experience in order to become complete adults.

As the act of sexual intercourse and relationships in general are fairly social activities, it's quite possible that Chris views the act of losing his virginity as something of a rite of passage--something he needs to do in order to validate his own sexuality and prove to the world that he's a capable "adult". Chris also fails to realize that relationships are give and take. Every sweetheart that Chris has had, which eventually turned out to be a troll involved long, received relentless emails and calls in which Chris prattled on and on about how much he "loved" them and how he was looking forward to finally having sex. After supposedly losing his virginity, it's unknown if he still craves sexual intercourse as much as he did before. One thing was still certain, however, is that he still fervently desired the attention of a sweetheart. Upon first meeting Katherine in person, Chris admitted that he wanted to spend the entire day with her, such as go bra shopping, then have her spend the night at his house and then he would get breakfast for her in the morning. With Jess, he talked about how they were to meet in person, and then the next day go to the MLP movie screening (implying she would spend the night). He also has a habit of staring at women's chests.

After he was introduced to the term by his Mailbag correspondents, Chris took to interpreting and using "asexual" as an insult. In his [[CWCipedia]] page on [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|The Wallflower]], he referred to her as a "Got-Dang Asexual Woman!". He also became very offended when [[Jackie]] implied that he liked [[video games]] more than women, ranting that she should not label him as asexual (and missed her point completely).<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

However, considering Chris's incessant shoehorning of entirely unnecessary sex into the comics, and the ludicrous efforts he goes to get some [[China]], he does seem to possess sexual desire - though not necessarily for women, as these things could simply be part of his efforts to disprove his much-feared [[homosexuality]].

Further, an asexual does not necessarily look for sex in a relationship. Most asexuals seek romantic partners or just prefer platonic friendships. Chris however, seems to develop sexual feelings for every girl he meets and appears to believe it is required (not to mention during the [[Chop_Chop_Master_Onion%27s_Rap_Showdown| Adam Saga]] he mentioned wanting to bring Megan to Washington to "change her mind" on sex after she had told him she was asexual (whether she is or said it to get him off her back is not known) [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|and make her the mother of]] [[Crystal_Weston_Chandler_(daughter)|Crystal]]. Altogether, it's unlikely that Chris is asexual, especially after [[Affair with Mother|recent events]].

It is worth noting, though, that some asexual people do have a sex drive, just no sexual attraction. They're turned on by the physical sensation of pleasure, not by the person. For them, orgasming is an undirected human function, like scratching an itch or going to the bathroom. They can enjoy masturbation (or even sex!), but there's no actual emotional connection (or lust) involved.

In the original Sonichu 10, Chris listed asexuals as "those who needed to be cured" by drinking the contaminated "straight water". It has been said he feels asexuals are "missing out". As his views have allegedly changed on other sexualities (i.e. gay men and bisexuals), whether or not his views on asexuals have changed remains a mystery.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and gender]]
*[[Heather Iglesias]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Rainbow]]
*[[SLGBTQ]]

{{References}}
{{articleofthenow}}
{{Sexuality}}
{{Chris and}}

Chris and sexuality

2026-01-09T08:57:03Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Bisexuality */

{{Honest}}

: ''This article is specifically about sexual orientations. For Chris's general views and relationship with human sexuality, see [[Chris and sex]].''

{{quote|we can kiss at the future time.|Chris declaring his love for amateur sorcerer [[Jacob Sockness]].<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref>}}

To this day, Chris's '''sexuality''' is very bizarre. Before [[Bob]]'s death, Chris had an intense fear of "[[CWC-isms#S|falling off the straight path]]". He feared that by being in contact with gay people, he himself, would pick up the [[Sonichu 10|gay virus]], and his LoveQuest would take a complete 180. He then identified himself as a "lesbian transwoman" with a "[[CWC-isms#L|lesbian soul]]". Later, the [[Idea Guys]] [[brainwashed]] him into identifying as [[bisexual]].

==Homosexuality==
{{Main|Homos}}

As stated above, Chris used to have an irrational fear towards homosexual men, particularly out of fear that he would become a homo himself. This strange idea stems from his belief that all homosexual men wish to push their sexuality onto other people. As a result, even saying the word "homosexual" made him queasy. As an alternative, he referred to gay men as "homos", an already existing derogatory term for homosexuals. Chris's main justification for his hatred towards homos was that they supposedly go against God's Will, and even used Stewie Griffin's citation of Leviticus as evidence that homosexuality is a sin, despite it being an obvious joke that flew over his head, in which Stewie Griffin himself has shown homoerotic desires throughout [[Family Guy]], while citing why homosexuality is a sinful act.

==Bisexuality==
{{main|Bisexual}}

Up until [[2014]], Chris hasn't been too open on his views on bisexuality. Beforehand, he has hinted traces of tolerance towards bisexuality, though. In [[Mailbag 33]], Chris has hinted that his views on bisexuals were almost no different from his views on homosexuals. When asked about bisexuality, along with other sexualities, Chris simply replies that while [[CWCville#Government and politics|people of all sexualities deserve to be treated equal]], only marriage between man and woman are allowed, implying that Chris may have been somewhat accepting of bisexuals due to one side of them being attracted to the opposite sex.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Mailbag_33</ref>

According to the answers he submitted on a list of OkCupid questions in mid-2014, he would consider dating a bisexual.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_OkCupid_Answers</ref> On the same list of questions, there is a question which asks "If you were going to have a daughter, which sexual orientation would you hope she would have?" and gives the choices "Straight", "Lesbian", "Bisexual", and "It wouldn't matter to me" as possible answers. Chris chose "It wouldn't matter to me" as his answer, hinting once again that besides being tolerant towards straights and lesbians, he seemed to show some amount of tolerance towards bisexuals too. Although, seeing how he hasn't fully accepted male homosexuals until late 2014, this could be because the question was asking specifically about [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|his daughter]], which means that either way, she's straight or lesbian, a win-win situation.

In August 2014, Chris announced that his character [[Christine Rosechu]] is bisexual, and <ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2014_Facebook_Posts</ref> attracted to "just about everyone". In March 2017, he commented on a Huffington Post article to offer sympathy to a bisexual woman.<ref>[[March_2017_Facebook_Posts#Keep_an_open_heart_for_bisexuals]]</ref>

In [[March 2018]], the Idea Guys brainwashed Chris into believing he was in relationships with fictional male characters [[Kun T’Nyuget]] and [[Magi-Chan]], and that this meant he was bisexual in real life.

==Asexuality==

Some autistic people simply do not understand sexual attraction (for example, high-functioning autistic and [[Wikipedia:Hug machine|hugbox]] inventor Temple Grandin chooses to be celibate because she admits that she really does not understand sexual attraction and that she lacks the ability, as a consequence of her autism, to engage in a sexual relationship). This could explain some of Chris's views regarding sex and romance; he genuinely cannot understand the appeal of most sexual activity, aside from the fact he's seen people in the media do it and that he thinks that sex is something all men need to experience in order to become complete adults.

As the act of sexual intercourse and relationships in general are fairly social activities, it's quite possible that Chris views the act of losing his virginity as something of a rite of passage--something he needs to do in order to validate his own sexuality and prove to the world that he's a capable "adult". Chris also fails to realize that relationships are give and take. Every sweetheart that Chris has had, which eventually turned out to be a troll involved long, received relentless emails and calls in which Chris prattled on and on about how much he "loved" them and how he was looking forward to finally having sex. After supposedly losing his virginity, it's unknown if he still craves sexual intercourse as much as he did before. One thing was still certain, however, is that he still fervently desired the attention of a sweetheart. Upon first meeting Katherine in person, Chris admitted that he wanted to spend the entire day with her, such as go bra shopping, then have her spend the night at his house and then he would get breakfast for her in the morning. With Jess, he talked about how they were to meet in person, and then the next day go to the MLP movie screening (implying she would spend the night). He also has a habit of staring at women's chests.

After he was introduced to the term by his Mailbag correspondents, Chris took to interpreting and using "asexual" as an insult. In his [[CWCipedia]] page on [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|The Wallflower]], he referred to her as a "Got-Dang Asexual Woman!". He also became very offended when [[Jackie]] implied that he liked [[video games]] more than women, ranting that she should not label him as asexual (and missed her point completely).<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

However, considering Chris's incessant shoehorning of entirely unnecessary sex into the comics, and the ludicrous efforts he goes to get some [[China]], he does seem to possess sexual desire - though not necessarily for women, as these things could simply be part of his efforts to disprove his much-feared [[homosexuality]].

Further, an asexual does not necessarily look for sex in a relationship. Most asexuals seek romantic partners or just prefer platonic friendships. Chris however, seems to develop sexual feelings for every girl he meets and appears to believe it is required (not to mention during the [[Chop_Chop_Master_Onion%27s_Rap_Showdown| Adam Saga]] he mentioned wanting to bring Megan to Washington to "change her mind" on sex after she had told him she was asexual (whether she is or said it to get him off her back is not known) [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|and make her the mother of]] [[Crystal_Weston_Chandler_(daughter)|Crystal]]. Altogether, it's unlikely that Chris is asexual, especially after [[Affair with Mother|recent events]].

It is worth noting, though, that some asexual people do have a sex drive, just no sexual attraction. They're turned on by the physical sensation of pleasure, not by the person. For them, orgasming is an undirected human function, like scratching an itch or going to the bathroom. They can enjoy masturbation (or even sex!), but there's no actual emotional connection (or lust) involved.

In the original Sonichu 10, Chris listed asexuals as "those who needed to be cured" by drinking the contaminated "straight water". It has been said he feels asexuals are "missing out". As his views have allegedly changed on other sexualities (i.e. gay men and bisexuals), whether or not his views on asexuals have changed remains a mystery.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and gender]]
*[[Heather Iglesias]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Rainbow]]
*[[SLGBTQ]]

{{References}}
{{articleofthenow}}
{{Sexuality}}
{{Chris and}}

Chris and sexuality

2026-01-09T08:56:21Z

Dodo Conservative: Pansexuality and bisexuality are the same thing. It’s just a label preference.

{{Honest}}

: ''This article is specifically about sexual orientations. For Chris's general views and relationship with human sexuality, see [[Chris and sex]].''

{{quote|we can kiss at the future time.|Chris declaring his love for amateur sorcerer [[Jacob Sockness]].<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref>}}

To this day, Chris's '''sexuality''' is very bizarre. Before [[Bob]]'s death, Chris had an intense fear of "[[CWC-isms#S|falling off the straight path]]". He feared that by being in contact with gay people, he himself, would pick up the [[Sonichu 10|gay virus]], and his LoveQuest would take a complete 180. He then identified himself as a "lesbian transwoman" with a "[[CWC-isms#L|lesbian soul]]". Later, the [[Idea Guys]] [[brainwashed]] him into identifying as [[bisexual]].

==Homosexuality==
{{Main|Homos}}

As stated above, Chris used to have an irrational fear towards homosexual men, particularly out of fear that he would become a homo himself. This strange idea stems from his belief that all homosexual men wish to push their sexuality onto other people. As a result, even saying the word "homosexual" made him queasy. As an alternative, he referred to gay men as "homos", an already existing derogatory term for homosexuals. Chris's main justification for his hatred towards homos was that they supposedly go against God's Will, and even used Stewie Griffin's citation of Leviticus as evidence that homosexuality is a sin, despite it being an obvious joke that flew over his head, in which Stewie Griffin himself has shown homoerotic desires throughout [[Family Guy]], while citing why homosexuality is a sinful act.

==Bisexuality==
{{main|Bisexual}}

Up until [[2014]], Chris hasn't been too open on his views on bisexuality. Beforehand, he has hinted traces of tolerance towards bisexuality, though. In [[Mailbag 33]], Chris has hinted that his views on bisexuals were almost no different from his views on homosexuals. When asked about bisexuality, along with other sexualities, Chris simply replies that while [[CWCville#Government and politics|people of all sexualities deserve to be treated equal]], only marriage between man and woman are allowed, implying that Chris may have been somewhat accepting of bisexuals due to one side of them being attracted to the opposite sex.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Mailbag_33</ref>

According to the answers he submitted on a list of OkCupid questions in mid-2014, he would consider dating a bisexual.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_OkCupid_Answers</ref> On the same list of questions, there is a question which asks "If you were going to have a daughter, which sexual orientation would you hope she would have?" and gives the choices "Straight", "Lesbian", "Bisexual", and "It wouldn't matter to me" as possible answers. Chris chose "It wouldn't matter to me" as his answer, hinting once again that besides being tolerant towards straights and lesbians, he seemed to show some amount of tolerance towards bisexuals too. Although, seeing how he hasn't fully accepted male homosexuals until late 2014, this could be because the question was asking specifically about [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|his daughter]], which means that either way, she's straight or lesbian, a win-win situation.

In August 2014, Chris announced that his character [[Christine Rosechu]] is bisexual.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2014_Facebook_Posts</ref> He has later claimed that as a bisexual, Christine Rosechu is attracted to just about everyone. In March 2017, he commented on a Huffington Post article to offer sympathy to a bisexual woman.<ref>[[March_2017_Facebook_Posts#Keep_an_open_heart_for_bisexuals]]</ref>

In [[March 2018]], the Idea Guys brainwashed Chris into believing he was in relationships with fictional male characters [[Kun T’Nyuget]] and [[Magi-Chan]], and that this meant he was bisexual in real life.

==Asexuality==

Some autistic people simply do not understand sexual attraction (for example, high-functioning autistic and [[Wikipedia:Hug machine|hugbox]] inventor Temple Grandin chooses to be celibate because she admits that she really does not understand sexual attraction and that she lacks the ability, as a consequence of her autism, to engage in a sexual relationship). This could explain some of Chris's views regarding sex and romance; he genuinely cannot understand the appeal of most sexual activity, aside from the fact he's seen people in the media do it and that he thinks that sex is something all men need to experience in order to become complete adults.

As the act of sexual intercourse and relationships in general are fairly social activities, it's quite possible that Chris views the act of losing his virginity as something of a rite of passage--something he needs to do in order to validate his own sexuality and prove to the world that he's a capable "adult". Chris also fails to realize that relationships are give and take. Every sweetheart that Chris has had, which eventually turned out to be a troll involved long, received relentless emails and calls in which Chris prattled on and on about how much he "loved" them and how he was looking forward to finally having sex. After supposedly losing his virginity, it's unknown if he still craves sexual intercourse as much as he did before. One thing was still certain, however, is that he still fervently desired the attention of a sweetheart. Upon first meeting Katherine in person, Chris admitted that he wanted to spend the entire day with her, such as go bra shopping, then have her spend the night at his house and then he would get breakfast for her in the morning. With Jess, he talked about how they were to meet in person, and then the next day go to the MLP movie screening (implying she would spend the night). He also has a habit of staring at women's chests.

After he was introduced to the term by his Mailbag correspondents, Chris took to interpreting and using "asexual" as an insult. In his [[CWCipedia]] page on [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|The Wallflower]], he referred to her as a "Got-Dang Asexual Woman!". He also became very offended when [[Jackie]] implied that he liked [[video games]] more than women, ranting that she should not label him as asexual (and missed her point completely).<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

However, considering Chris's incessant shoehorning of entirely unnecessary sex into the comics, and the ludicrous efforts he goes to get some [[China]], he does seem to possess sexual desire - though not necessarily for women, as these things could simply be part of his efforts to disprove his much-feared [[homosexuality]].

Further, an asexual does not necessarily look for sex in a relationship. Most asexuals seek romantic partners or just prefer platonic friendships. Chris however, seems to develop sexual feelings for every girl he meets and appears to believe it is required (not to mention during the [[Chop_Chop_Master_Onion%27s_Rap_Showdown| Adam Saga]] he mentioned wanting to bring Megan to Washington to "change her mind" on sex after she had told him she was asexual (whether she is or said it to get him off her back is not known) [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|and make her the mother of]] [[Crystal_Weston_Chandler_(daughter)|Crystal]]. Altogether, it's unlikely that Chris is asexual, especially after [[Affair with Mother|recent events]].

It is worth noting, though, that some asexual people do have a sex drive, just no sexual attraction. They're turned on by the physical sensation of pleasure, not by the person. For them, orgasming is an undirected human function, like scratching an itch or going to the bathroom. They can enjoy masturbation (or even sex!), but there's no actual emotional connection (or lust) involved.

In the original Sonichu 10, Chris listed asexuals as "those who needed to be cured" by drinking the contaminated "straight water". It has been said he feels asexuals are "missing out". As his views have allegedly changed on other sexualities (i.e. gay men and bisexuals), whether or not his views on asexuals have changed remains a mystery.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and gender]]
*[[Heather Iglesias]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Rainbow]]
*[[SLGBTQ]]

{{References}}
{{articleofthenow}}
{{Sexuality}}
{{Chris and}}

Chris and sexuality

2026-01-09T08:48:21Z

Dodo Conservative: This feels like sexualising a minor in a way?

{{Honest}}

: ''This article is specifically about sexual orientations. For Chris's general views and relationship with human sexuality, see [[Chris and sex]].''

{{quote|we can kiss at the future time.|Chris declaring his love for amateur sorcerer [[Jacob Sockness]].<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref>}}

To this day, Chris's '''sexuality''' is very bizarre. Before [[Bob]]'s death, Chris had an intense fear of "[[CWC-isms#S|falling off the straight path]]". He feared that by being in contact with gay people, he himself, would pick up the [[Sonichu 10|gay virus]], and his LoveQuest would take a complete 180. He then identified himself as a "lesbian transwoman" with a "[[CWC-isms#L|lesbian soul]]". Later, the [[Idea Guys]] [[brainwashed]] him into identifying as [[bisexual]].

==Homosexuality==
{{Main|Homos}}

As stated above, Chris used to have an irrational fear towards homosexual men, particularly out of fear that he would become a homo himself. This strange idea stems from his belief that all homosexual men wish to push their sexuality onto other people. As a result, even saying the word "homosexual" made him queasy. As an alternative, he referred to gay men as "homos", an already existing derogatory term for homosexuals. Chris's main justification for his hatred towards homos was that they supposedly go against God's Will, and even used Stewie Griffin's citation of Leviticus as evidence that homosexuality is a sin, despite it being an obvious joke that flew over his head, in which Stewie Griffin himself has shown homoerotic desires throughout [[Family Guy]], while citing why homosexuality is a sinful act.

==Bisexuality==
{{main|Bisexual}}

Up until [[2014]], Chris hasn't been too open on his views on bisexuality. Beforehand, he has hinted traces of tolerance towards bisexuality, though. In [[Mailbag 33]], Chris has hinted that his views on bisexuals were almost no different from his views on homosexuals. When asked about bisexuality, along with other sexualities, Chris simply replies that while [[CWCville#Government and politics|people of all sexualities deserve to be treated equal]], only marriage between man and woman are allowed, implying that Chris may have been somewhat accepting of bisexuals due to one side of them being attracted to the opposite sex.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Mailbag_33</ref>

According to the answers he submitted on a list of OkCupid questions in mid-2014, he would consider dating a bisexual.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/List_of_OkCupid_Answers</ref> On the same list of questions, there is a question which asks "If you were going to have a daughter, which sexual orientation would you hope she would have?" and gives the choices "Straight", "Lesbian", "Bisexual", and "It wouldn't matter to me" as possible answers. Chris chose "It wouldn't matter to me" as his answer, hinting once again that besides being tolerant towards straights and lesbians, he seemed to show some amount of tolerance towards bisexuals too. Although, seeing how he hasn't fully accepted male homosexuals until late 2014, this could be because the question was asking specifically about [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|his daughter]], which means that either way, she's straight or lesbian, a win-win situation.

Some people tend to confuse bisexuality with pansexuality, the attraction towards all sorts of people regardless of their sex, [[Chris and gender|gender identity]], or sexuality. Chris appears to be one of these people. On August 2014, Chris announced that his character [[Christine Rosechu]] is bisexual.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2014_Facebook_Posts</ref> He has later claimed that as a bisexual, Christine Rosechu is attracted to just about everyone. In March 2017, he commented on a Huffington Post article to offer sympathy to a bisexual woman.<ref>[[March_2017_Facebook_Posts#Keep_an_open_heart_for_bisexuals]]</ref>

In [[March 2018]], the Idea Guys brainwashed Chris into believing he was in relationships with fictional male characters [[Kun T’Nyuget]] and [[Magi-Chan]], and that this meant he was bisexual in real life.

==Asexuality==

Some autistic people simply do not understand sexual attraction (for example, high-functioning autistic and [[Wikipedia:Hug machine|hugbox]] inventor Temple Grandin chooses to be celibate because she admits that she really does not understand sexual attraction and that she lacks the ability, as a consequence of her autism, to engage in a sexual relationship). This could explain some of Chris's views regarding sex and romance; he genuinely cannot understand the appeal of most sexual activity, aside from the fact he's seen people in the media do it and that he thinks that sex is something all men need to experience in order to become complete adults.

As the act of sexual intercourse and relationships in general are fairly social activities, it's quite possible that Chris views the act of losing his virginity as something of a rite of passage--something he needs to do in order to validate his own sexuality and prove to the world that he's a capable "adult". Chris also fails to realize that relationships are give and take. Every sweetheart that Chris has had, which eventually turned out to be a troll involved long, received relentless emails and calls in which Chris prattled on and on about how much he "loved" them and how he was looking forward to finally having sex. After supposedly losing his virginity, it's unknown if he still craves sexual intercourse as much as he did before. One thing was still certain, however, is that he still fervently desired the attention of a sweetheart. Upon first meeting Katherine in person, Chris admitted that he wanted to spend the entire day with her, such as go bra shopping, then have her spend the night at his house and then he would get breakfast for her in the morning. With Jess, he talked about how they were to meet in person, and then the next day go to the MLP movie screening (implying she would spend the night). He also has a habit of staring at women's chests.

After he was introduced to the term by his Mailbag correspondents, Chris took to interpreting and using "asexual" as an insult. In his [[CWCipedia]] page on [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|The Wallflower]], he referred to her as a "Got-Dang Asexual Woman!". He also became very offended when [[Jackie]] implied that he liked [[video games]] more than women, ranting that she should not label him as asexual (and missed her point completely).<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

However, considering Chris's incessant shoehorning of entirely unnecessary sex into the comics, and the ludicrous efforts he goes to get some [[China]], he does seem to possess sexual desire - though not necessarily for women, as these things could simply be part of his efforts to disprove his much-feared [[homosexuality]].

Further, an asexual does not necessarily look for sex in a relationship. Most asexuals seek romantic partners or just prefer platonic friendships. Chris however, seems to develop sexual feelings for every girl he meets and appears to believe it is required (not to mention during the [[Chop_Chop_Master_Onion%27s_Rap_Showdown| Adam Saga]] he mentioned wanting to bring Megan to Washington to "change her mind" on sex after she had told him she was asexual (whether she is or said it to get him off her back is not known) [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|and make her the mother of]] [[Crystal_Weston_Chandler_(daughter)|Crystal]]. Altogether, it's unlikely that Chris is asexual, especially after [[Affair with Mother|recent events]].

It is worth noting, though, that some asexual people do have a sex drive, just no sexual attraction. They're turned on by the physical sensation of pleasure, not by the person. For them, orgasming is an undirected human function, like scratching an itch or going to the bathroom. They can enjoy masturbation (or even sex!), but there's no actual emotional connection (or lust) involved.

In the original Sonichu 10, Chris listed asexuals as "those who needed to be cured" by drinking the contaminated "straight water". It has been said he feels asexuals are "missing out". As his views have allegedly changed on other sexualities (i.e. gay men and bisexuals), whether or not his views on asexuals have changed remains a mystery.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and gender]]
*[[Heather Iglesias]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Rainbow]]
*[[SLGBTQ]]

{{References}}
{{articleofthenow}}
{{Sexuality}}
{{Chris and}}

1990s

2026-01-08T05:53:56Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Events of 1997 */

[[Image:0226-ChristianWMrsSanford.jpg|thumb|right|Chris and [[Mrs. Sanford]].]]
[[Image:0505-ChristianWLlamma.jpg|thumb|right|Chris petting some llamas.]]
{{Quote|Raise with Tender Loving Care, let your child make friends, and Most Importantly, MAINSTREAM; let your child be free to communicate and associate with the Normal Society. Special Education is okay, but that will not do in the longest run.|Chris gives advice on how to raise an [[autistic]] child, unaware that it was exactly this obsession with "MAINSTREAM" that caused his arrested development in the 1990s.<ref>[[Mailbag 12]]</ref>}}

The '''1990s''' was where [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] spent an abundance of his childhood. It notably saw the beginning of his obsession with [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and [[Pokémon]], which would eventually lead to the abomination we know as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]. Chris was aged between 7 and 17.

==1990==
'''1990''' saw Chris graduate from [[Greene County Primary School]]. It was also the year in which Chris also met his [[gal-pal]] [[Tiffany Robinson]].

[[Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|thumb|right|Chris meets [[Sonic]].]]
[[Image:0047-ChristopherApr1991.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1991'''.]]
[[Image:0067-Christian%26Barbie.jpg|thumb|right|Chris and Barbie. That little Sonic plushie would be featured again, decades later, in [[For Julie's Eyes Only|Christian's sex vid]].]]
[[File:Cwc stamp album2.jpeg|thumb|Chris's stamp album, '''1992'''.]]
[[Image:0224-ChristianOnABus.jpg|thumb|right|Chris wants to see the schoolbus.]]

===Events of 1990===
* '''1990''' - [[Bob Chandler]] DJs the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 8th birthday.
* '''July''' - Christopher Morton Duckworth, later known as [[Liquid Chris]], is born.
* '''August/September''' - Chris enters 3rd grade at Greene County Primary School.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 63rd birthday.
* '''1 October''' - Barb's 49th birthday.

==1991==
'''1991''' would be the start of a troublesome year for Christopher. He began fourth grade at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] and had a conflict with the principal. Certain teachers also supposedly abused Chris, and the school's administration wanted Chris put in intensive special education or an "institution". It is not clear if Chris completed the entire school year at Nathanael Greene or if he was withdrawn earlier.

This year also saw [[Gal_pal#Tiffany_Robinson|Tiffany Robinson]] ending her friendship with Chris.

===Events of 1991===
* '''17 January to 28 February''' - {{w|Operation Desert Storm}} takes place, with [[Matthew Devoria]] fighting on the frontlines.
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 9th birthday.
* '''April''' - A picture of Chris is taken on some monkey bars.
* '''23 June''' - The first ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' game is released.
* '''June/July''' - Christopher is first introduced to Sonic the Hedgehog.<ref>[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]</ref>
* '''August/September''' - Chris enters 4th grade at Nathanael Greene. He soon develops a dislike towards the allegedly [[Homos|homosexual]] principal of the school.
* '''September''' - A picture of Chris is taken at a local playground.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 64th birthday.
* '''1 October''' - Barb's 50th birthday.
* '''1991/1992''' - Chris is supposedly abused by the teachers and principal at Nathanael Greene.<ref name=November07>Based upon statements made by Christian in his [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007]] video.</ref>
* '''1991/1992''' - Bob takes the "abusive" faculty to court but fails.<ref name=November07/>

==1992==
In '''1992''', Chris was homeschooled by his father. Despite the presumable stress of the situation Chris was in, this year would see him have a magical encounter that'd lead him to [[Christopher's name change|changing his first name]].

===Events of 1992===
* '''1992 or 1993''' - [[Flutter]] is born.
* '''Sometime in 1992''' - Bob receives the last of two triple bypass operations.
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 10th birthday.
* '''17 March''' - [[Ivy O'Neil]] is born
* ''' 21 April''' - Birth of [[Winfield Winfield]].
* '''7 May''' - The 27th Amendment to the United States Constitution is ratified.
* '''1 July''' - Chris begins his [[:File:Cwc stamp album2.jpeg|stamp collection]].
* '''August/September''' - Chris enters fifth grade at home.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 65th birthday.
* '''1 October''' - Barb's 51st birthday.
* '''December''' - An encounter with [[Leonard Bearstein|The Bear]] inspires Christopher to start calling himself Christian.
* '''December 9''' - [[Joshua Conner Moon]], later known by his username 'Null', is born.

==1993==
In '''1993''', Chris moved to Richmond and started attending [[Providence Middle School]]. He grew more and more obsessed with ''Sonic the Hedgehog'', even entering a [[Sonic Watch and Win Sweepstakes|certain Sonic contest]].

[[File:1993family.png|thumb|Chris and parents pictured in the ''{{w|Richmond Times-Dispatch}}'', '''1993'''.]]

===Events of 1993===
* '''1993''' - Chris's [[Son-Chu|noble steed]] is manufactured.
* '''5 February''' - [[Stephen Boyd]] is born.
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 11th birthday.
* '''September''' - Chris and Bob move to Richmond, where Chris begins attending Providence, entering the sixth grade.<ref name=November07/><ref name=bear>[[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves]].</ref>
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 66.
* '''6 September''' - The cartoon ''Adventures of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' premieres in syndication. To promote it, the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] is launched not long after the premiere, which Chris soon enters.<ref>As stated in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] video.</ref>
* '''Autumn''' - Chris meets [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 52.
* '''19 November''' - Amy Rose and Metal Sonic's first American appearance, in ''{{w|Sonic CD}}''. Little did they know the horror of the future [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] and [[Metal Sonichu]].
* '''20 November''' - Chris attends the grand opening of {{w|Service Merchandise}} in Midlothian, VA. He gets Spider-Man's autograph and meets Mario, Sonic the Hedgehog, Barbie, Santa Claus and a dog.
* '''29 December''' - [[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves|An article]] in the ''{{w|Richmond Times-Dispatch}}'' discusses Chris, his name change and the Sonic contest.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20091113231947/http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/timesdispatch/access/615847621.html?dids=615847621:615847621&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Dec+29,+1993&author=Barbara+Green&pub=Richmond+Times+-+Dispatch&desc=IT+TOOK+A+TALKING+BEAR+TO+GIVE+THE+NAME+A+YOUNG+BOY+LOVES&pqatl=google Partial article archive with publication date intact], Barbara Green - Richmond Times</ref>

==1994==
In '''1994''', Chris legally changed his name. He also won the Sonic contest, bringing in over $1,000 worth of [[Sega]] games and consoles.

===Events of 1994===
* '''early 1994''' - Chris's name is legally changed from Christopher to Christian.
* '''1 February''' - [[Helena Fiorenza]] is born
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 12th birthday.
* '''26 February''' - Christian wins the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].<ref name=DVD_Date>[[:Image:063-2-CWCDVDWholeMaster.jpg|Date on DVD cover.]]</ref>
* '''2 March''' - Butthurt that they lost their original case, the Chandlers file their appeal with the Virginia Court of Appeals. They are represented by James B. Dick.
* '''9 May''' - The record of the case of Bob Chandler vs. Greene County School Board is received by the Virginia Court of Appeals.
* '''27 May''' - [[DoopieDoOver]] is born.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-07-19-17-doopie-commission.32399/post-2438411</ref>
* '''28 June''' - The Virginia Court of Appeals writes a written decision that dismisses the case of of Bob Chandler vs. Greene County School Board.
* '''9 July''' - [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] sends [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] a [[:File:ColePostcardA.jpg|postcard]] from San Francisco about his band.
* '''16 July''' - [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] performs at Troubadour with special guest Brian Vouglas.
* '''August/September''' - Christian enters the seventh grade at Providence Middle School.
* '''22 August''' - [[Joshua Wise]], ringleader of the [[Idea Guys]], is born.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/page-65 Joshua's thread on Kiwi Farms]</ref>
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 67.
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 53.

==1995==
[[Image:0086-Christmas95-1.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1995'''.]]

In '''1995''', Chris entered eighth grade at Providence Middle School.

===Events of 1995===
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 13th birthday.
* '''March''' - first appearance of {{w|List_of_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_video_game_characters#Chaotix|Chaotix}} in [[Sonic|''Knuckles' Chaotix'']]. If they had known about the horror of the [[Chaotic Combo]], they wouldn't have bothered.
* '''March 25''' - [[Keffals|Clara "Keffals" Sorrenti]] is born as Lucas Roberts.
* '''26 April''' - Tedrall, a friend of Cole's, posts on a listserv inquiring about Jack Dale Smithey, as Cole still believes that he, rather than his true and honest biological father Ran Coleman Yeatts, is his biological father.
* '''Summer''' - The Chandler family moves out of Cloverleaf Lakes Apartments and into the [[Surrywood Subdivision]].<ref name=CWCNote2>[[:Image:0078-CWCNote2.jpg]]</ref>
* '''10 June''' - [[Bryanfrogboy]] is born.
* '''16 July''' - [[JenkinsJinkies]] is born.
* '''August/September''' - Christian enters the eighth grade at Providence Middle School.
* '''7 August''' - Birth of [[Savannah Chandler]].
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 68.
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 54.
* '''25 December''' - Chris receives a 'Two-Faced Sports Fan' remote caddy, a Power Rangers Shogun Megazord, and a new bicycle for Christmas.

==1996==
[[Image:0105-MomRetire13.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1996'''.]]

'''1996''' was a rather [[stress]]ful year for Chris's parents. The neighbors around their new house in [[Newberry Towne Subdivision]] started spreading rumors about the Chandler family. This was rather hard for Bob and Barbara to bear. Christian himself didn't seem to mind the trouble too much; this year, he began attending [[Manchester High School]], where he apparently spent the happiest years of his life.

===Events of 1996===
* '''7 February''' - The [[Bob Chandler#Career|Western Electric Company]] becomes defunct.
* '''23 February''' - Barb and Bob arrive in Chris's special ed class for a birthday celebration.
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 14th birthday. He receives a Spyrius Robo-Guardian Lego set.
* '''27 February''' - ''Pokémon Red'' and ''Green'' are released in Japan: the first appearance of [[Pikachu]].
* '''Early Spring''' - Barbara retires from Secretarial Services at [[Virginia (state)|Virginia]] Power.<ref name=CWCNote2/> Chris attends her retirement party.
* '''Late Spring''' - Christian graduates from Providence on honor roll.<ref name=November07/>
* '''June/July''' - The Chandler family moves out of the [[Surrywood Subdivision]], and starts living in the [[Newberry Towne Subdivision]]. According to Chris, some of the neighbors spread rumors about his family.<ref name=CWCNote2/>
* '''1 September''' - Christian begins his freshman year at Manchester High School.<ref name=November07/>
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 69.
* '''11 September''' - [[Ryan Cash]] is born.
* '''Autumn''' - Chris becomes a water boy for the varsity [[basketball]] team.
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 55.
* '''12 October''' - [[BlueSpike]] is born.
* '''2 November''' - Barb is given a ticket for "Curse and Abuse".
* '''13 November''' - During basketball practice, Chris thinks up [[Bionic the Hedgehog]].
* '''24 or 25 December''' - Chris presumably receives a Nintendo 64 for Christmas.

==1997==
[[Image:0128-Christmas96-6.jpg|thumb|right|Christmas '''1996'''.]]
[[Image:0242-CWC&VarsityBBallTeam97Color.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1997'''.]]

In '''1997''', Chris is still studying happily at Manchester High School. He now also manages the school basketball team.

===Events of 1997===
* '''1997''' - Chris is rejected by [[Laura Dorazio]].
* '''1997''' - Cole Smithey begins reviewing films.
* '''Winter/spring''' - Chris has an altercation with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] boy on the school bus and breaks his glasses. He is demoted to the [[Manchester High School#The Bus|short bus]].
* '''28 January''' - Barb is given a ticket for going 40 mph in a 25 mph zone.
* '''14 February''' - Valentine's Day. At a dating match-up at school, Chris is paired up with cheerleader [[Molly Quarles]].
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 15th birthday.
* '''1 April''' - The first episode of the ''Pokémon'' [[anime]] is broadcast in Japan; Pikachu becomes a cultural icon there.
* '''June''' - Christian allegedly had a prophetic [[dream]] about Sonic the Hedgehog appearing on [[Game Boy]].<ref>Claimed by Chris in [[Sonichu Powerpoint|his PowerPoint.]]</ref>
* '''26 July''' - An mini-article is published in the Richmond Times Dispatch about how Bob corrected various news outlets about Old Ironsides and when the ship had last sailed under its own power.
* '''5 August''' - Another Richmond Times-Dispatch article discusses Bob's correcting various news outlets about Old Ironsides and when the ship had last sailed under its own power.
* '''August/September''' - Christian begins his sophomore year at Manchester High School.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 70th birthday.
* '''17 September''' - The death of [[Red Skelton]].
* '''1 October''' - [[Barbara]]'s 56th birthday. Chris and Bob are photographed laughing like idiots.
* '''10 November''' - Barb is given a ticket for having an expired license plate.
* '''25 December''' - Chris receives a Cortland video camera, a Lego playset, a [[Peanuts|Snoopy doll]], a ''Cartooning with Charles Schulz'' kit, {{w|''Wave Race 64''}}, {{w|''Mischief Makers''}} and an extra Nintendo 64 controller for [[Christmas]]. He also gives Bob a {{w|Yoshi}} plushie.

==1998==
[[File:0425-CwcvilleBandStand2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's '''1998''' gift to [[Cole Smithey]].]]

In '''1998''', Chris received an F in English class. This would hurt him severely, inspiring him to create the "[[Song of Christian]]" in retribution. Nevertheless, this year wasn't too unhappy for him; ''Pokémon'' debuted in America this year, eventually giving him another massive obsession that'd sow the seeds further for [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]].

===Events of 1998===
* '''1998 or 1999''' - Chris unlocks the parental lock on his television and finds an adult movie. His raging hormones result in him discovering masturbation for the very first time.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>
* '''1 January''' - Chris gives Cole a Lego sculpture of a rock band as a New Year's present.
* '''2 February''' - Chris begins to wear the [[Pedo-Glasses]] according to his [[CWC's Diary|Diary]]. Note, however, that he was already wearing glasses during the [[Manchester High School#The Bus|bus]] incident which he claims happened in 1997.
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 16th birthday.
* '''14 May''' - Chris writes the [[Song of Christian]].
* '''15 May''' - Chris records himself reading [[Song of Christian]] and explaining it line by line for his English class.<ref name=DVD_Date/>
* '''4 June''' - Christian makes his [[Chris's DVD#Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Animation by C.W.C. on Game Boy Camera|Lego Raceway Animation]].<ref name=DVD_Date/>
* '''August/September''' - Christian begins his junior year at Manchester High School.
* '''4 September''' - Chris records a [[KCWC]] "[[KCWC broadcast|broadcast]]" on tape. Barbara "calls in" saying that she wants to request a song for Bob's 71st birthday, humoring him like he's six years old, when in reality, he was sixteen.
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 71.
* '''8 September'''
** The ''Pokémon'' [[anime]] makes its American debut through syndication. Chris becomes an avid fan.
** Chris's chemistry class participates in a bingo game where students have to learn about each other in order to win.
* '''17 September''' - Chris creates a map in his U.S. Government class about America's role in the Korean War.
* '''30 September''' - ''Pokémon Red'' and ''Blue'' are released in America. Things would never be the same in the Chandler household.
* '''1 October''' - [[Barb]] turns 57.
* '''13 October''' - Chris draws a diagram of Dealey Plaza and the Kennedy assassination for his U.S. Government class.
* '''15 October''' - Chris takes notes about the Women's Movement for his U.S. Government class. Also, Chris takes more notes about JFK's assassination.
* '''19 October''' - Chris creates a map concerning America's role in the War in Southeast Asia.
* '''29 October''' - Chris completes a worksheet about how to be safe within the home, and takes notes on the subject.
* '''10 November''' - Chris completes an assignment for Spanish class about jobs.
* '''17 November''' - Barbara is pulled over and given a ticket for disregarding a red light.
* '''22 November''' - Chris completes a Review Sheet about Reagan and the Evil Empire. He receives a perfect score.
* '''27 November''' - The Japanese release of Sega's final console, the Dreamcast.
* '''December''' - The Pokémon [[Card Games|TCG]] is first introduced in North America.
* '''4 December''' - Chris writes his rough draft of his ''Canterbury Tales'' essay.
* '''7 December''' - Chris writes about his bedroom in Spanish and draws a picture of it. The depiction of his room is littered with video games.
* '''10 December''' - Chris writes a final draft for his ''Canterbury Tales'' essay. He receives a 69, or a D+.
* '''11 December''' - Chris writes the FCAs for his ''Canterbury Tales'' essay.
* '''21 December''' - Chris completes a questionnaire concerning where he is on the political spectrum for his U.S. Government class. Chris concludes that he is a liberal.

==1999==
{{Main|1999}}
[[Image:0406-ChristianIs17-4.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in 1999.]]

'''1999''' saw the ''Pokémon'' franchise breaking big in America. During this time, Chris started making Pokémon-themed websites, and even got into the [[Chris's DVD#Chris Chan in the Pok'eNews|PokéNews]]. According to [[Lucas]], Chris started showing up at [[The GAMe PLACe]] around this time.<ref>Based on an estimate by [[Lucas]] in [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]].</ref> Chris also created many of his "original" Pokémon cards this year for his [[Wall of Originals]].

==References==
<references />

{{Timeline}}

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[[Category:Chronology]]

1990s

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[[Image:0226-ChristianWMrsSanford.jpg|thumb|right|Chris and [[Mrs. Sanford]].]]
[[Image:0505-ChristianWLlamma.jpg|thumb|right|Chris petting some llamas.]]
{{Quote|Raise with Tender Loving Care, let your child make friends, and Most Importantly, MAINSTREAM; let your child be free to communicate and associate with the Normal Society. Special Education is okay, but that will not do in the longest run.|Chris gives advice on how to raise an [[autistic]] child, unaware that it was exactly this obsession with "MAINSTREAM" that caused his arrested development in the 1990s.<ref>[[Mailbag 12]]</ref>}}

The '''1990s''' was where [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] spent an abundance of his childhood. It notably saw the beginning of his obsession with [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and [[Pokémon]], which would eventually lead to the abomination we know as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]. Chris was aged between 7 and 17.

==1990==
'''1990''' saw Chris graduate from [[Greene County Primary School]]. It was also the year in which Chris also met his [[gal-pal]] [[Tiffany Robinson]].

[[Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|thumb|right|Chris meets [[Sonic]].]]
[[Image:0047-ChristopherApr1991.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1991'''.]]
[[Image:0067-Christian%26Barbie.jpg|thumb|right|Chris and Barbie. That little Sonic plushie would be featured again, decades later, in [[For Julie's Eyes Only|Christian's sex vid]].]]
[[File:Cwc stamp album2.jpeg|thumb|Chris's stamp album, '''1992'''.]]
[[Image:0224-ChristianOnABus.jpg|thumb|right|Chris wants to see the schoolbus.]]

===Events of 1990===
* '''1990''' - [[Bob Chandler]] DJs the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 8th birthday.
* '''July''' - Christopher Morton Duckworth, later known as [[Liquid Chris]], is born.
* '''August/September''' - Chris enters 3rd grade at Greene County Primary School.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 63rd birthday.
* '''1 October''' - Barb's 49th birthday.

==1991==
'''1991''' would be the start of a troublesome year for Christopher. He began fourth grade at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] and had a conflict with the principal. Certain teachers also supposedly abused Chris, and the school's administration wanted Chris put in intensive special education or an "institution". It is not clear if Chris completed the entire school year at Nathanael Greene or if he was withdrawn earlier.

This year also saw [[Gal_pal#Tiffany_Robinson|Tiffany Robinson]] ending her friendship with Chris.

===Events of 1991===
* '''17 January to 28 February''' - {{w|Operation Desert Storm}} takes place, with [[Matthew Devoria]] fighting on the frontlines.
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 9th birthday.
* '''April''' - A picture of Chris is taken on some monkey bars.
* '''23 June''' - The first ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' game is released.
* '''June/July''' - Christopher is first introduced to Sonic the Hedgehog.<ref>[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]</ref>
* '''August/September''' - Chris enters 4th grade at Nathanael Greene. He soon develops a dislike towards the allegedly [[Homos|homosexual]] principal of the school.
* '''September''' - A picture of Chris is taken at a local playground.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 64th birthday.
* '''1 October''' - Barb's 50th birthday.
* '''1991/1992''' - Chris is supposedly abused by the teachers and principal at Nathanael Greene.<ref name=November07>Based upon statements made by Christian in his [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007]] video.</ref>
* '''1991/1992''' - Bob takes the "abusive" faculty to court but fails.<ref name=November07/>

==1992==
In '''1992''', Chris was homeschooled by his father. Despite the presumable stress of the situation Chris was in, this year would see him have a magical encounter that'd lead him to [[Christopher's name change|changing his first name]].

===Events of 1992===
* '''1992 or 1993''' - [[Flutter]] is born.
* '''Sometime in 1992''' - Bob receives the last of two triple bypass operations.
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 10th birthday.
* '''17 March''' - [[Ivy O'Neil]] is born
* ''' 21 April''' - Birth of [[Winfield Winfield]].
* '''7 May''' - The 27th Amendment to the United States Constitution is ratified.
* '''1 July''' - Chris begins his [[:File:Cwc stamp album2.jpeg|stamp collection]].
* '''August/September''' - Chris enters fifth grade at home.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 65th birthday.
* '''1 October''' - Barb's 51st birthday.
* '''December''' - An encounter with [[Leonard Bearstein|The Bear]] inspires Christopher to start calling himself Christian.
* '''December 9''' - [[Joshua Conner Moon]], later known by his username 'Null', is born.

==1993==
In '''1993''', Chris moved to Richmond and started attending [[Providence Middle School]]. He grew more and more obsessed with ''Sonic the Hedgehog'', even entering a [[Sonic Watch and Win Sweepstakes|certain Sonic contest]].

[[File:1993family.png|thumb|Chris and parents pictured in the ''{{w|Richmond Times-Dispatch}}'', '''1993'''.]]

===Events of 1993===
* '''1993''' - Chris's [[Son-Chu|noble steed]] is manufactured.
* '''5 February''' - [[Stephen Boyd]] is born.
* '''24 February''' - Christopher's 11th birthday.
* '''September''' - Chris and Bob move to Richmond, where Chris begins attending Providence, entering the sixth grade.<ref name=November07/><ref name=bear>[[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves]].</ref>
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 66.
* '''6 September''' - The cartoon ''Adventures of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' premieres in syndication. To promote it, the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] is launched not long after the premiere, which Chris soon enters.<ref>As stated in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] video.</ref>
* '''Autumn''' - Chris meets [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 52.
* '''19 November''' - Amy Rose and Metal Sonic's first American appearance, in ''{{w|Sonic CD}}''. Little did they know the horror of the future [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] and [[Metal Sonichu]].
* '''20 November''' - Chris attends the grand opening of {{w|Service Merchandise}} in Midlothian, VA. He gets Spider-Man's autograph and meets Mario, Sonic the Hedgehog, Barbie, Santa Claus and a dog.
* '''29 December''' - [[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves|An article]] in the ''{{w|Richmond Times-Dispatch}}'' discusses Chris, his name change and the Sonic contest.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20091113231947/http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/timesdispatch/access/615847621.html?dids=615847621:615847621&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Dec+29,+1993&author=Barbara+Green&pub=Richmond+Times+-+Dispatch&desc=IT+TOOK+A+TALKING+BEAR+TO+GIVE+THE+NAME+A+YOUNG+BOY+LOVES&pqatl=google Partial article archive with publication date intact], Barbara Green - Richmond Times</ref>

==1994==
In '''1994''', Chris legally changed his name. He also won the Sonic contest, bringing in over $1,000 worth of [[Sega]] games and consoles.

===Events of 1994===
* '''early 1994''' - Chris's name is legally changed from Christopher to Christian.
* '''1 February''' - [[Helena Fiorenza]] is born
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 12th birthday.
* '''26 February''' - Christian wins the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].<ref name=DVD_Date>[[:Image:063-2-CWCDVDWholeMaster.jpg|Date on DVD cover.]]</ref>
* '''2 March''' - Butthurt that they lost their original case, the Chandlers file their appeal with the Virginia Court of Appeals. They are represented by James B. Dick.
* '''9 May''' - The record of the case of Bob Chandler vs. Greene County School Board is received by the Virginia Court of Appeals.
* '''27 May''' - [[DoopieDoOver]] is born.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-07-19-17-doopie-commission.32399/post-2438411</ref>
* '''28 June''' - The Virginia Court of Appeals writes a written decision that dismisses the case of of Bob Chandler vs. Greene County School Board.
* '''9 July''' - [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] sends [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] a [[:File:ColePostcardA.jpg|postcard]] from San Francisco about his band.
* '''16 July''' - [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] performs at Troubadour with special guest Brian Vouglas.
* '''August/September''' - Christian enters the seventh grade at Providence Middle School.
* '''22 August''' - [[Joshua Wise]], ringleader of the [[Idea Guys]], is born.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/page-65 Joshua's thread on Kiwi Farms]</ref>
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 67.
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 53.

==1995==
[[Image:0086-Christmas95-1.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1995'''.]]

In '''1995''', Chris entered eighth grade at Providence Middle School.

===Events of 1995===
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 13th birthday.
* '''March''' - first appearance of {{w|List_of_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_video_game_characters#Chaotix|Chaotix}} in [[Sonic|''Knuckles' Chaotix'']]. If they had known about the horror of the [[Chaotic Combo]], they wouldn't have bothered.
* '''March 25''' - [[Keffals|Clara "Keffals" Sorrenti]] is born as Lucas Roberts.
* '''26 April''' - Tedrall, a friend of Cole's, posts on a listserv inquiring about Jack Dale Smithey, as Cole still believes that he, rather than his true and honest biological father Ran Coleman Yeatts, is his biological father.
* '''Summer''' - The Chandler family moves out of Cloverleaf Lakes Apartments and into the [[Surrywood Subdivision]].<ref name=CWCNote2>[[:Image:0078-CWCNote2.jpg]]</ref>
* '''10 June''' - [[Bryanfrogboy]] is born.
* '''16 July''' - [[JenkinsJinkies]] is born.
* '''August/September''' - Christian enters the eighth grade at Providence Middle School.
* '''7 August''' - Birth of [[Savannah Chandler]].
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 68.
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 54.
* '''25 December''' - Chris receives a 'Two-Faced Sports Fan' remote caddy, a Power Rangers Shogun Megazord, and a new bicycle for Christmas.

==1996==
[[Image:0105-MomRetire13.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1996'''.]]

'''1996''' was a rather [[stress]]ful year for Chris's parents. The neighbors around their new house in [[Newberry Towne Subdivision]] started spreading rumors about the Chandler family. This was rather hard for Bob and Barbara to bear. Christian himself didn't seem to mind the trouble too much; this year, he began attending [[Manchester High School]], where he apparently spent the happiest years of his life.

===Events of 1996===
* '''7 February''' - The [[Bob Chandler#Career|Western Electric Company]] becomes defunct.
* '''23 February''' - Barb and Bob arrive in Chris's special ed class for a birthday celebration.
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 14th birthday. He receives a Spyrius Robo-Guardian Lego set.
* '''27 February''' - ''Pokémon Red'' and ''Green'' are released in Japan: the first appearance of [[Pikachu]].
* '''Early Spring''' - Barbara retires from Secretarial Services at [[Virginia (state)|Virginia]] Power.<ref name=CWCNote2/> Chris attends her retirement party.
* '''Late Spring''' - Christian graduates from Providence on honor roll.<ref name=November07/>
* '''June/July''' - The Chandler family moves out of the [[Surrywood Subdivision]], and starts living in the [[Newberry Towne Subdivision]]. According to Chris, some of the neighbors spread rumors about his family.<ref name=CWCNote2/>
* '''1 September''' - Christian begins his freshman year at Manchester High School.<ref name=November07/>
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 69.
* '''11 September''' - [[Ryan Cash]] is born.
* '''Autumn''' - Chris becomes a water boy for the varsity [[basketball]] team.
* '''1 October''' - Barb turns 55.
* '''12 October''' - [[BlueSpike]] is born.
* '''2 November''' - Barb is given a ticket for "Curse and Abuse".
* '''13 November''' - During basketball practice, Chris thinks up [[Bionic the Hedgehog]].
* '''24 or 25 December''' - Chris presumably receives a Nintendo 64 for Christmas.

==1997==
[[Image:0128-Christmas96-6.jpg|thumb|right|Christmas '''1996'''.]]
[[Image:0242-CWC&VarsityBBallTeam97Color.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in '''1997'''.]]

In '''1997''', Chris is still studying happily at Manchester High School. He now also manages the school basketball team.

===Events of 1997===
* '''1997''' - Chris is rejected by [[Laura Dorazio]].
* '''1997''' - Cole Smithey begins reviewing films.
* '''Winter/spring''' - Chris has an altercation with a [[niggo|black]] boy on the school bus and breaks his glasses. He is demoted to the [[Manchester High School#The Bus|short bus]].
* '''28 January''' - Barb is given a ticket for going 40 mph in a 25 mph zone.
* '''14 February''' - Valentine's Day. At a dating match-up at school, Chris is paired up with cheerleader [[Molly Quarles]].
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 15th birthday.
* '''1 April''' - The first episode of the ''Pokémon'' [[anime]] is broadcast in Japan; Pikachu becomes a cultural icon there.
* '''June''' - Christian allegedly had a prophetic [[dream]] about Sonic the Hedgehog appearing on [[Game Boy]].<ref>Claimed by Chris in [[Sonichu Powerpoint|his PowerPoint.]]</ref>
* '''26 July''' - An mini-article is published in the Richmond Times Dispatch about how Bob corrected various news outlets about Old Ironsides and when the ship had last sailed under its own power.
* '''5 August''' - Another Richmond Times-Dispatch article discusses Bob's correcting various news outlets about Old Ironsides and when the ship had last sailed under its own power.
* '''August/September''' - Christian begins his sophomore year at Manchester High School.
* '''4 September''' - Bob's 70th birthday.
* '''17 September''' - The death of [[Red Skelton]].
* '''1 October''' - [[Barbara]]'s 56th birthday. Chris and Bob are photographed laughing like idiots.
* '''10 November''' - Barb is given a ticket for having an expired license plate.
* '''25 December''' - Chris receives a Cortland video camera, a Lego playset, a [[Peanuts|Snoopy doll]], a ''Cartooning with Charles Schulz'' kit, {{w|''Wave Race 64''}}, {{w|''Mischief Makers''}} and an extra Nintendo 64 controller for [[Christmas]]. He also gives Bob a {{w|Yoshi}} plushie.

==1998==
[[File:0425-CwcvilleBandStand2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's '''1998''' gift to [[Cole Smithey]].]]

In '''1998''', Chris received an F in English class. This would hurt him severely, inspiring him to create the "[[Song of Christian]]" in retribution. Nevertheless, this year wasn't too unhappy for him; ''Pokémon'' debuted in America this year, eventually giving him another massive obsession that'd sow the seeds further for [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]].

===Events of 1998===
* '''1998 or 1999''' - Chris unlocks the parental lock on his television and finds an adult movie. His raging hormones result in him discovering masturbation for the very first time.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>
* '''1 January''' - Chris gives Cole a Lego sculpture of a rock band as a New Year's present.
* '''2 February''' - Chris begins to wear the [[Pedo-Glasses]] according to his [[CWC's Diary|Diary]]. Note, however, that he was already wearing glasses during the [[Manchester High School#The Bus|bus]] incident which he claims happened in 1997.
* '''24 February''' - Christian's 16th birthday.
* '''14 May''' - Chris writes the [[Song of Christian]].
* '''15 May''' - Chris records himself reading [[Song of Christian]] and explaining it line by line for his English class.<ref name=DVD_Date/>
* '''4 June''' - Christian makes his [[Chris's DVD#Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Animation by C.W.C. on Game Boy Camera|Lego Raceway Animation]].<ref name=DVD_Date/>
* '''August/September''' - Christian begins his junior year at Manchester High School.
* '''4 September''' - Chris records a [[KCWC]] "[[KCWC broadcast|broadcast]]" on tape. Barbara "calls in" saying that she wants to request a song for Bob's 71st birthday, humoring him like he's six years old, when in reality, he was sixteen.
* '''4 September''' - Bob turns 71.
* '''8 September'''
** The ''Pokémon'' [[anime]] makes its American debut through syndication. Chris becomes an avid fan.
** Chris's chemistry class participates in a bingo game where students have to learn about each other in order to win.
* '''17 September''' - Chris creates a map in his U.S. Government class about America's role in the Korean War.
* '''30 September''' - ''Pokémon Red'' and ''Blue'' are released in America. Things would never be the same in the Chandler household.
* '''1 October''' - [[Barb]] turns 57.
* '''13 October''' - Chris draws a diagram of Dealey Plaza and the Kennedy assassination for his U.S. Government class.
* '''15 October''' - Chris takes notes about the Women's Movement for his U.S. Government class. Also, Chris takes more notes about JFK's assassination.
* '''19 October''' - Chris creates a map concerning America's role in the War in Southeast Asia.
* '''29 October''' - Chris completes a worksheet about how to be safe within the home, and takes notes on the subject.
* '''10 November''' - Chris completes an assignment for Spanish class about jobs.
* '''17 November''' - Barbara is pulled over and given a ticket for disregarding a red light.
* '''22 November''' - Chris completes a Review Sheet about Reagan and the Evil Empire. He receives a perfect score.
* '''27 November''' - The Japanese release of Sega's final console, the Dreamcast.
* '''December''' - The Pokémon [[Card Games|TCG]] is first introduced in North America.
* '''4 December''' - Chris writes his rough draft of his ''Canterbury Tales'' essay.
* '''7 December''' - Chris writes about his bedroom in Spanish and draws a picture of it. The depiction of his room is littered with video games.
* '''10 December''' - Chris writes a final draft for his ''Canterbury Tales'' essay. He receives a 69, or a D+.
* '''11 December''' - Chris writes the FCAs for his ''Canterbury Tales'' essay.
* '''21 December''' - Chris completes a questionnaire concerning where he is on the political spectrum for his U.S. Government class. Chris concludes that he is a liberal.

==1999==
{{Main|1999}}
[[Image:0406-ChristianIs17-4.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in 1999.]]

'''1999''' saw the ''Pokémon'' franchise breaking big in America. During this time, Chris started making Pokémon-themed websites, and even got into the [[Chris's DVD#Chris Chan in the Pok'eNews|PokéNews]]. According to [[Lucas]], Chris started showing up at [[The GAMe PLACe]] around this time.<ref>Based on an estimate by [[Lucas]] in [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]].</ref> Chris also created many of his "original" Pokémon cards this year for his [[Wall of Originals]].

==References==
<references />

{{Timeline}}

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[[Category:Chronology]]

Affair with Mother

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:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Incest Arrest]] and [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|Chris was charged with incest, not rape. Additionally, Barb's dementia is unconfirmed despite speculation.|includegossip = yes}}

{{quote|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.<ref name=dream>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence]] earlier in the month may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date, Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].

Chris was kept in jail or in a mental hospital until 27 [[March 2023]], at which point he was released into a [[Chris%27s_homes#Gateway_Homes|group home]]. His incest charge was outright dropped in [[August 2023]]. He has [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|commented on the charge against him]] numerous times since his arrest and denied that he and his mother had sex, despite previous admission to the contrary. Due to the [[Ween|weens]] abusing the donation system on his livestreams to spam such messages, he had come up with a lot of excuses, from claiming that "[[October 2023 livestreams#The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime| [he has] been forgiven and cleansed of any and all sins of [his], period"]], to stating that [[List of Chris's lies|it happened in another timeline]].

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]]}}

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Note the talk of "soul bonding" in the right-hand corner.]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood mixed with the emotionally abusive control tactics she implemented against both him and Bob. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. In a [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|2010 voice chat]] between various [[PVCC]] forum members, [[Kim Wilson]] talked about a discussion where Chris revealed he was spooning his mother on a regular basis. She also revealed that Chris told her that he'd once had a [[Dreams|wet dream]] about Barb as an Egyptian belly dancer. Chris revealed that he'd confessed about his masturbation history to Barb in [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3]]. When asked by Emily if he'd repopulate the planet if he and his mother were the only two people left in existence, Chris went silent and then denied any desire to have sex with his mother.

[[File:CWCTablet25Jul2021.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he bragged about incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> In [[2018]], while Chris was hanging out with the [[Teen Troon Squad]], he told them he had humped a body pillow in front of his mother while pretending the pillow was her. Chris characterized it as a form of expressing his [[anger]] at her for losing [[The Classic]].<ref>[[Teen Troon Squad chats#Chris beat up, humped body pillow in effigy of Barb after she lost The Classic]]</ref> Teen Troon Squad member Lukas later claimed that Chris allegedly told them he wanted to have sex with his mother, though it is unclear if Lukas was referencing the body pillow chat.<ref>https://archive.fo/3OLtp</ref> And as recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating, "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

On 5 [[July 2021]], [[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Null)#Chris's_"girlfriend"|Chris revealed that he was having sex with]] [[Barbara_Chandler#Early_life|an older woman with a background in accounting, and whom he had known for a long time]] to [[Null]] in confidence. Null, having no idea [[Barbara_Chandler|who Chris was talking about]], praised Chris for [[Honest_Content|managing to keep something secret for once]] and encouraged Chris to keep their relationship secret to protect her identity.

On 25 [[July 2021]], Chris watched a [[WatchMojo]] video "Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever".<ref>[[Fiona DMs#Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever]]</ref> [[July 2021 social media posts#Beauty artwork|Chris released a piece of artwork on his Twitter feed]] on 28 [[July 2021]], showing "soul-bonding" between an elderly Libra woman (which Barb is) and a younger woman that suspiciously looks like [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris's fictionalized counterpart]], clandestinely hinting at the horrifying affair that was just days from being revealed (the only major inconsistency is that Chris is a Pisces and appears elsewhere in the picture with the correct sign).

Chris had stated [[Lonely feelings|in a conversation]] he had with [[Watchmen]] members that he had feelings of loneliness and wanted to get some action with a real, physical woman. Unfortunately for everyone, Chris's desires would lead him to a very dark place...

== The affair ==
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|Chris being arrested for incest, 1 [[August 2021]]]]
On 27 [[June 2021]], Chris began to engage in incest with his mother [[Barbara Chandler]].<ref name=call/><ref name=wct>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> By 2 July, a routine of sex every three nights had developed.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sex plans]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Every three nights]]</ref> Chris bought massage oil and [[negligee]] to use during their sexual activity and later claimed that she approved of it.<ref name=oil>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> Chris also purchased a book, [[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]], to consult during the affair.<ref name=null></ref>

Excited by the sexual activities, Chris began to hint to some of his online confidants about the affair, although he crafted a series of [[lie]]s to conceal the identity of his sexual partner. Chris instead described her as a lady friend. In total, Chris hinted to at least seven people or groups: [[The WCT]] (2 [[July 2021]]), [[The Knights of CWC]] (5 July), [[Null]] (5 July), [[Spunky]], [[Don Lashomb]], his doctor (unknown), and [[Bella]] (13 July).<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The Knights of CWC Chats#The "Older Lady Friend" Call]]</ref><ref name=null></ref><ref>[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]</ref> Finally, late in July 2021, Chris's desire to brag to someone about the identity of his sexual partner came to a boil, and he selected Bella.<ref name=spill>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref> Since he feared the government might listen in on the conversation, Chris asked her to download the encrypted chat app Signal, and he asked her to chat on the night of 27 July 2021.<ref>[[Bella chats#Preparing for Video Call]]</ref> After Chris revealed that his sexual partner was his own mother, Bella began recording the conversation using her iPad, later known as the [[Incest Call]]. Chris also texted Bella further details, which later became known as the [[Incest Texts]].
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|200px|left|Chris in [[negligee]]]]
In the chats, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris rubbing his mother and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move". He further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.<ref name=call/><ref name=deviant></ref>

{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}

After Bella shared the Incest Call and Texts with [[Fiona]], Fiona in turn shared the call with the [[Chris Chan Conservation Collective]] server, and a server member in turn leaked it to the general public. Fiona followed suit by leaking the texts.

On the morning of 30 July, a [[welfare check]] was conducted at [[14 Branchland Court]]. Chris was removed by [[Emergency Protective Order]], and Barbara was sent to a hospital for a senior care inspection,<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Summing Up Post-Incest Leak]]</ref> forcing an end to the incestuous affair. On 1 [[August 2021]], Chris was arrested and jailed on a charge of incest, kicking off the [[Jail Saga]].

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

[[File:i_am_vomit.png|thumb|right|250px|The average reaction to what happened...]]

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full-body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris also claimed in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref name=oil></ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her. It apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. There is no information about whether she returned the favor. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STIs afterward anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts. What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris invented the narrative that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or been more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

Later on, he dropped the act and started outright denying the event altogether.<ref>[[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]]</ref><ref>[[The Chris Chan Interview]]</ref>

==Awareness of wrongdoing==
Chris was aware of the illegal nature of incest. In August 2016, he read a news article on the topic of a mother and son charged with incest and commented on Facebook about it, defending the two and saying they should not be sent to jail.<ref name=dream></ref>

Five years later, in the midst of his own affair with his mother, Chris still demonstrated awareness that the action was illegal. While he desired to discuss the affair with people, he first concocted a cover story in which he used misleading euphemisms such as "lady friend" to describe his sexual partner and claimed that the supposed lady friend and Barb had met each other<ref name=spill></ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris describes his lady friend]]</ref> and he insisted on keeping the identity of the lady friend secret,<ref name=soulbonding></ref><ref name=null>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref><ref name=wct></ref> though he dropped hints such as age<ref name=soulbonding></ref> and employment history.<ref name=null></ref>

After a month of using his cover story, Chris decided to push further and tell someone that his mother was the sexual partner. He selected [[Bella]]. Before telling her, Chris first tried to manipulate her into keeping silent on what he would say by using a guilt trip.

{{quote|And I ask you Not to Overthink or ask for further details in pressing on. That is not a good thing to do.|Chris to Bella, 17 July 2021<ref name=soulbonding></ref>}}

Over a week later, Chris, ready to divulge his secret, first claimed to Bella that he was uncertain of telling her as he was concerned about the government hacking into the conversation, which backfired on Chris as this tipped off Bella into suspecting that he was about to discuss an illegal act.<ref>[[Bella and Fiona chats#Bella suspects incest]]</ref>

{{quote|I realize I am remaining and sounding distant on the questioning, and it will become more clear and obvious when I tell you, in-person, who she is.

I actually wish I could tell you over text or voice call, but the government and anyone with the tech can easily hack into those methods|Chris, prior to the [[Incest Call]].<ref name=spill></ref>}}

Within the same conversation, Chris recommended using the encrypted text/video call app Signal (having used it to communicate with [[Null]]), which Bella agreed to download.<ref name=spill></ref>

After Chris's conversations about committing incest were publicly leaked, [[The WCT]] sent Chris messages over [[Discord]] asking him what had happened. Chris gave an explanation, then began deleting his messages. Chris requested that The WCT delete his side of the conversation as well, which WCT obliged (though had taken screenshots in real time to discuss with [[The Knights of CWC]]).<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref>

== Was it consensual? ==

{{Protip|The following speculation should not be taken as definite proof that Chris raped Barb or not; this is simply a list of information that Chris has provided himself, which due to Chris's habit of lying for the pettiest of reasons, can be seen as unreliable by some. Due to the sensitive nature of this topic, please avoid saying for sure if Chris did or did not rape Barb.}}

It is often questioned whether the incest was consensual or not. The following list contains many common points of argument for both sides but also a counterargument for each and every one.

Speculation for the affair being nonconsensual is as follows:

* Barb has been speculated to be suffering from dementia or some other form of mental decline; there are too many videos of her displaying symptoms to list, but this could be her intentionally faking it for sympathy donations. Also, some have pointed out that Barb was quite cognizant in other recent videos, adding weight to the theory that her behavior in the begging videos could have been exaggerated. At the same time however, people with dementia often have phases of increased lucidity.
* Chris mentioned during [[Incest Texts]] that Barb told him to stop during his attempts to finger her; however, this would have been Chris's first time fingering a woman ([[Mia Hamm]] didn't allow him to do so during their times together) and Chris mentioned this act hurt Barb at first; meaning Barb could have been stopping him from his attempts due to the pain but otherwise consented to be fingered.
* Chris, during the [[Incest Call]], mentions that Barb seemed partially confused at first; However, Chris did say she "came around," so it's possible he was referring to his advances towards her, and she wasn't of sound mind at that point.
* Chris claimed in [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)]] that Barb was "Zombie-like" and in [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]] that she had "fridgid mental activity and physical ability like a scared deer in headlights nearly ALL the time"; while damning (if true), it's worth mentioning that Chris during the letter is begging Kenneth for assistance in moving Barb out of the house, arguing that Barb simply cannot take care of herself. Chris, being Chris, could simply not know the implications of what he's actually saying, and it's quite possible that Chris is desperately lying since Kenneth disapproved of the idea unless there was no other option for Barb.

Speculation for the affair being consensual are as follows:

* Chris has claimed to Null in a 30 July 2021 text that the affair was consensual.<ref>[[:File:Null-CWC DM 30Jul2021.png]]</ref>
* Chris and Barbara's relationship is infamously creepy and way too close for comfort; this is the main source of people believing the affair was consensual and for good reason. Barb would often yell at Chris if he didn't share a bed with her, and Chris has admitted numerous times that he spoons with her (after Bob's death). They were also often seen talking to each other and even holding each other as if they were husband and wife for a long time before the affair began. Barb is infamous for being horribly [[Chris and manipulation|manipulative]] for her own personal gain, and she does not see any problem with coddling and emotionally blackmailing Chris in order to go along with what she wants to do (usually money or food-related stuff); with this in mind, while their relationship is definitely unhealthy for a mother and son to have, it does not prove that Barb was interested in an incestuous affair with Chris.
* Chris claimed to Null during his temporary homelessness in [[Null DMs|a direct message]] that the affair was definitely consensual; however, [[Honest Content|even somebody like Chris]] would probably hesitate to admit raping their own mother, especially to a business manager at the time.
* Chris boasted during the [[Incest Call]] that Barb was "having a good time" and even claimed that he let her make the first move; even if this is true, it does not rule out that Chris hadn't coerced or otherwise manipulated her into having sex with him since he did mention in the same call that she was "partially confused at first." Chris's idea of approaching a love interest with "care and caution" '''does not''' translate to consent or even consideration for somebody else's feelings; his idea of nervous behavior around [[Kacey]], for example, included touching her multiple times without her consent and his interactions with [[Megan]] which he describes as "friendly" also included a lot of unwanted attempts to hug and kiss her.
* In [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]], Chris claimed that after he lost his virginity to Mia Hamm and told his mom about it, Barb stated that she would have had sex with him herself; while this does sound like Barb offering herself to Chris, there is a massive possibility that Barb was simply saying he could [[Attraction Sign|pull women without paying them]]. Though definitely creepy, it does not mean she actually wanted sex with him and even if she did, the quote came from a decade beforehand so this would not count as consent.

In the end, we will perhaps never honestly know; Barb is apparently not willing to comment or give any further details (and thankfully, nobody has pressed her on such), and Chris is currently shifting the blame on a [[Shattered Glass Universe|supposed counterpart from another dimension]]. If Chris was formally charged and sentenced with felony incest (or perhaps rape), it could've been a case of Chris simply piling on tons of poorly worded evidence against himself [[Honest Content|(as he's done throughout most of his life)]]; but even since Chris's charge was dismissed, it could be seen as yet another example of the criminal justice system [[Honor roll|going easy]] on [[Autism|somebody with special needs]].

==Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration==

===Jail===

During the incarceration that followed Chris's incest with his mother, he had communicated numerous times with members of the public via letters and telephone calls. Some of those letters (and one recorded phone call which has been publicly shared) contain commentary by Chris regarding the charges for which he was in jail. The first publicly available letter in which Chris touches on the subject of the alleged incest was written on [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|19 September 2021]]. In it, Chris appears to strongly imply that he, indeed, had sex with Barbara. Chris's comments on the affair are tied with the elaboration of his previously expressed delusions of Godhood. He reveals having realized himself to be the present-day reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The supreme Goddess Emanuelle had ordered him to purify Barbara of her sins and improve her abilities. In his description of how this was done, Chris writes that he and his mother "mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked." No explicit details are provided, but the rest of the letter strongly implies that sexual acts were included in Chris's "healing" of Barbara. Chris goes on to write that the healing he performed on his mother was similarly done by him on other individuals during his previous life as Jesus Christ, though the details of said healings were omitted from the Bible. Chris then goes on to inform the letter's recipient that "We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry" [sic]; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades?" While the word "adultery" is typically used to refer to marital infidelity, it appears that in this letter, it is intended to mean all acts that go against traditional sexual morality (i.e., what Christians have usually called "fornication"). By grouping the "healing" of Barbara in the same category as intimate relations between members of the same sex, Chris strongly implies that the "healing" of Barbara likewise included romantic and sexual acts. Chris's defense of the "healing" on the counts that all those who were involved in it were both willing and above the legal age of consent further enhances the impression that it was at least partially sexual in nature.

While the 19 September letter was just a few baby steps away from being an explicit admission of incest, it did not take long for Chris to become more coy as to whether or not incest between himself and Barb had occurred. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|1 November 2021 telephone call]], Chris fails to either explicitly deny or acknowledge that he and Barb had sex. The same ambiguousness regarding the truthfulness of the charges against him can be seen in a letter written on [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|16 November 2021]].

At some point, Chris changed his side of the story and began to outright deny that there was ever any sexual intimacy between him and his mother. Regarding public evidence, Chris first explicitly denied the charges against him in the [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022 jail letter]]. In the same letter, Chris alleges that in [[May 2012]], Barbara made sexual advances towards him after he revealed to her that he had paid a prostitute a month beforehand. He goes on to write that after the death of Bob, Barb came to see Chris as a husband-like figure. Further denials that Chris ever had sexual relations with Barb appear in jail letters written on [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|1 June]] and [[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022|4 June 2022]]. Chris does acknowledge that prior to his arrest, he told others that he had sex with Barb, but by now, he claims that those admissions were false. As he wrote in the 4 June 2022 letter: "I have never had sex with Barbara; that was purely Big Talk to Divinely Test everyone." In the letters from 19 September 2021 and 16 November 2021, Chris claimed that his pre-arrest admissions were made to test specific individuals, but (at least as far as public evidence goes) only from May 2022 did Chris begin to claim that these admissions were false.

{{quote|[Jesus] does love me. I am not a horrible monster. What I did - well, what you're saying I did - never happened [[Coping|in this timeline]]. It never happened, never happened.|Chris in a [[December 2023]] livestream<ref>[[Fan Mail and Cwcville Autobots Part 2]]</ref>}}

===Post-Jail===
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[[File:Shattered_Glass_Christ_Chan_Sonichu.jpg|thumb| Shattered Glass Christ Chan Sonichu]]
Chris's comments on the affair after his return are convoluted and involve memory transfer and alternate [[dimensions]]. In Chris's livestreams he claims that he did not have sex with Barb but accessed memories from [[Dimensions#Shattered_Glass_Dimension|the Shattered Glass Dimension]] where his self-counterpart did have sex with Barb, implying he remembers having sex with Barb. He also claims that he knew that Bella would betray him, and played along with her so that he could be sent to jail in Virginia rather than Washington and so he could avoid meeting Sockness at [[Everfree Northwest]].<ref>[[November_2023_livestreams#Simple_Existential_Q&A|10 November livestream]]</ref><ref>[[December_2023_livestreams#Over_the_shoulder_colouring_stream|22 December livestream]]</ref> In prerecorded videos like [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]] and [[The Chris Chan Interview]] he does not mention the Shattered Glass Dimension and mainly talks about Bella and claims that he was proven innocent in a court of law.

==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activity between a parent and a child is a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an [[Emergency Protective Order]] and then arrested days later. In the wake of his charge, Chris was [[banned]] from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as ''[[The Binding of Isaac]]'' card game creator canceling a card he had requested Chris contribute, the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale, and [[Null]] offering refunds for [[Kiwi Farms silver coin|silver coins]] featuring Chris's likeness and stating he would never again sell items with direct reference to Chris.

He was held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail before getting transferred to [[Western State Hospital]], awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to CVRJ. In [[March 2023]], Chris was released from jail after [[David Heilberg|his lawyer]] filed for [[autism disorder deferred disposition]].

===Chris and Barbara's relationship===
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Chris and Barbara's relationship deteriorated during Chris's stay in jail. In a jail letter, Chris mentioned that Barb had ceased communicating with him. During the summer of 2022, Chris began to speak ill of Barb in his letters, insulting and making spurious claims about her, even blaming her for his situation.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref> While still in jail, Chris began planning for his housing post-release. In light of a restraining order being placed on Chris preventing him from contact with Barb<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]]</ref>, Chris believed he deserved to live in [[14 Branchland Court]] over Barb and requested his [[enablers]] assist him with a [[Kickstarter]] fundraiser to bribe Barb into moving into senior housing, claiming that [[Caden]] was helping with this scheme and that it was his initial idea.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>
Since his release, Chris has become increasingly resentful of Barb, and despite his dependence of her in the past, has dropped her like a hot potato.

With Chris's release from jail and the subsequent dismissal of his case, Chris has returned to see Barb at least twice. While [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#14 Branchland Court|the first one]] was just Chris reclaiming his stuff, [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#14 Branchland Court (November)|the second time around]] Chris also claimed to have taken her out shopping, which might imply he does it at least semi-regularly, although he hasn't been sighted there ever since. The most recent visit Chris has made to Barb's place was in [[April 2024]] to [[Harvesting Process, Gravel at the Sonichu Temple|collect rocks from the driveway]] to [[OfficialCWCmart|sell]] on [[Etsy]].

==Fan videos==

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|name = Sonichu Says NO to Barbussy Mitai [emptyhero]
|ytid = tsYBphxweBY
|stardate = 22 Nov 2022
|maker = emptyhero
|info = BLAST ALL YOUR BEANS IN MY BARBUSSY PLEASE
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|name = Poor Sonichu...
|ytid = WIZfv3scrx4
|stardate = 13 Feb 2022
|maker = Emperor Techno
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|name = Chris-Chan and his mom every 3rd night since June 27
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|stardate = 10 Aug 2021
|maker = American Goblin
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|name = Chris Chan be like..
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|maker = Through Time and Space
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|name = KOMM, SÜßER CHRIS [The End of Sonichu]
|ytid = y29G4qaZvG8
|stardate = 14 July 2020
|maker = DookuVEVO
}}

==See also==
{{FanArt}}
*[[Incest Arrest]]
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Jail Saga]]
*[[Soul Bonding]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac‎]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}
{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

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Jacob Sockness

2026-01-08T05:10:49Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Discovery and motivations */

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{{quote|The Sacred Shoes have samples of cat & doggy DNA. Looking for the Treasures of Heaven, a single hair from Christine's head to put into an amulet of serious power to manifest one's dreams. This is a divine experience.|Sockness after buying Chris's shoes.<ref><s>https://twitter.com/darkseed2012/status/1107477177149251585</s> Deleted</ref>}}

{{quote|Stop with the sex obsessions already! Seriously, Please: chill out.|Chris, 1 July 2020, criticizing Sockness for his creepy behavior after over a year of it.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1278236917952327682</ref>}}

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|aliases = Michiro Hutaki Agian Siin Darkseed2012 RamleIronHeart Jacob JS drunkendragon415 luvshak214 Ashva Gohda Gakuto Numata White Knight Blue Heart Jake Hammer <abbr title="'Love Christine' in Hindi">क्रिस्टीन को प्यार करो</abbr> Centralized Imperial Government of Kidasuna [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU God]] of the Super Nintendo Right Eye of GOD Fanta-Fun GOD the All Father
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'''Jacob Sockness''' is an intellectually-disabled amateur sorcerer and conspiracy theorist from San Francisco, California who attempted to [[manipulate]] Chris into a relationship, notably by exploiting his fantasy world and tricking Chris into believing his [[imaginary friend]] approved of the idea.<ref>[[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan]]</ref> Prior to Sockness's interactions, the [[Idea Guys]] had [[brainwashed]] Chris into identifying as [[bisexual]], which enabled Sockness to try to become Chris's first (real-world) male sweetheart, which ultimately failed.

Sockness emerged in mid-[[2018]] and was most active between [[July 2019|July]] and [[November 2019|November]] of [[2019]]. He has the dubious honor of embodying every single aspect of the [[Unholy Quintet]] over the course of his years of interacting with Chris. He has similarities with Chris, such as being [[autism|autistic]],<ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/TheChurchofCWC/comments/bl78bl/magichan_2_need_to_talk_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app Sockness admits he is autistic],</ref> [[tomgirl|non-gender-conforming]],<ref name=return /> receiving a [[monthly tugboat]], [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|believing to be a god]],<ref>[http://archive.is/eg2Gq Sockness claimed to be the Hindu god Ganesh]</ref> thinks he has [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|magic powers]] and has built an elaborate fantasy universe, into which he has appropriated ''Sonichu'' characters, with over a dozen installments that he believes [[Chris and reality|really exist]].<ref>[http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=1404026 Sockness's 19-volume series for sale on Lulu]</ref> While he was at first seemingly just another [[troll]], notable for his [[Chris and sex|erotic]] disposition towards Chris, Sockness became openly malicious after establishing direct contact with Chris.

In mid-[[2019]], Sockness gained influence over Chris by offering to work together financially following Chris's [[June 2019]] ban from [[eBay]], he then achieved considerable influence over Chris's [[CWCville|fantasy world]], as seen in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. Most of his courting and [[enablers|enabling]] has been through Twitter, though he has also promoted himself through [[Reddit]], [[YouTube]] and even [[Kiwi Farms]]. For months, Sockness tried to manipulate Chris into meeting in person, to onlookers' alarm. Yet when Sockness finally set out to travel cross-country to [[14 Branchland Court]] in late September 2019, Chris rebuffed these efforts with the help of the [[Watchmen]]. Rehabilitation attempts over the following two months, at one point going even so far as manipulating Chris into mutual [[sweetheart|flirting]], could not ultimately repair their [[Heart Level|broken relationship]], and by the end of [[November 2019]] they rejected each other again. Sockness was nevertheless persistent, and by [[March 2020]] briefly had a toe in Chris's door once again. Chris and Jacob's relationship came to a permanent end in [[August 2020]] after Jacob claimed that [[Mia Hamm]] had a child with Chris.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts#Jacob sex obsessions]]</ref>

==Discovery and motivations==
[[Image:Jacob Sockness CWC poster.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Sockness, dressed up as Spike from [[My Little Pony]], posing next to a Sonichu Through the Years poster sold by Chris.]]
Jacob was discovered by chance by [[Kiwi Farms]] user [https://kiwifarms.net/members/neural.18444/ neural] while observing the [[weens|many]] [[A-log|users]] surrounding Chris's Twitter posts. Upon further investigation, it was revealed that he also had a Kiwi Farms account under the name [https://kiwifarms.net/members/jacob-js.26961/ Jacob JS]. It was in his profile page where he accidentally doxed himself by linking to his [[Facebook]] and Tumblr that revealed his personal information. As he exposed himself on the Farms, Sockness, like [[Michael Hirtes]], is considered to be a ''halal'' lolcow.

Like many of Chris's orbiters, Sockness is a furry and lives in [[wikipedia:Section_8_%28housing%29|subsidised housing]] with a [[tugboat]]. He has a very low view of [[Chris and race#Black people|black people]], describing them as 'beastly' and 'hyper sexual', believing that 'their race can only rape, because that is [their] way of reproduction in a natural setting.'<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jacob-sockness-michiro-hutaki-agian-siin-jacob-js-darkseed2012-ramleironheart.48287/ Sockness's lolcow thread on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Unlike the [[Idea Guys]] who inserted such themes into Chris's mind for their own amusement, Jacob seems to be genuine. Sockness has been demonstrated to control several sockpuppets that he has used to white-knight and converse with himself; like Chris's [[Disguises|similar past attempts]] to cover himself.

Christorians could not discern the true motivations behind Sockness's behaviour. For a while, Jacob appeared to be the first [[TRUE and HONEST]] believer in [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]] after Chris, setting him apart from the [[Jessica Quinn|various]] [[CWCProtectSquad|trolls]] professing to protect Chris and the [[Sarah and Steve|many]] [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|previous]] [[Multidimensional White Knights|imitators]] of the [[Idea Guys]] pretending to belong to Chris's abortive [[Chris and his Ego|cult]]. Over the months, evidence gradually came to light that indicated that Jacob's feelings were not in earnest. In [[November 2018]], Sockness admitted that he did not seriously believe in the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhV7At8N4x4&t=274s Interview with Sockness on YouTube, conducted 18 November 2018, released 29 October 2019]</ref> When Chris allowed Jacob access to his Twitter account on 11 July 2019, he boasted about it on [[Reddit]], even claiming that his sexual attraction to Chris was a façade.<ref>[[:File:KinkAct.png|Sockness states his erotic desires for Chris are not genuine, 11 July 2019]]</ref> On 21 September 2019, when a [[white knight|concerned onlooker]] tried to warn Chris that Sockness was tantamount to an autistic [[Idea Guy]], Sockness embraced the charges of manipulation, justifying his actions as protecting Chris from trolls.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-15-sockness-enabling-chriss-magi-chan-role-playing-luring-him-for-a-visit.59770/post-5361506 Dialogue between Sockness and onlooker]</ref>

== Early interactions with Chris==
{{quote|I first fell in love with Christian Weston Chandler and thought I had a big brother when I watched the original run of Geno Samuel's documentaries.|Sockness<ref name=sockness>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/drxzg7/am_i_responsible_for_the_sockness_saga/</ref>}}

{{quote|The Sacred Shoes have samples of cat & doggy DNA. Looking for the Treasures of Heaven, a single hair from Christine's head to put into an amulet of serious power to manifest one's dreams. This is a divine experience.|Sockness<ref><s>https://twitter.com/darkseed2012/status/1107477177149251585</s> Deleted</ref>}}

Sockness after discovering Chris through Geno Samuel's [[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History]] documentary, spent hundreds buying items from Chris's [[eBay]], notably buying his old shoes for worshipping purposes. Chris blocked him on [[Twitter]] on 31 January 2019. By 22 [[May 2019]], Jacob's YouTube channel was terminated, and his Twitter account disappeared.

[[File:JacobBlockedLOL.png|thumb|left|200px|Jacob's reaction to Chris blocking his [[sockpuppet]].]]

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Still, this was not the end of Sockness's involvement with Chris; Jacob then created a new Twitter account named "Chris Kink." On 11 July 2019, while Chris was trying to raise funds for a hotel room at the 2019 [[BronyCon]], a troll SonichuMerch told Chris that Sockness might be interested in buying his bath water. Chris saw dollar signs and followed Sockness.

{{quote|The Sonichu merch guy told Chris I was interested in the buying some bath water. The guy doesn't know I have no money to buy it due to issues with Social Security in May. Even if I had the money, Chris has to follow some exact rules to creating what I need from him. I need him to make and bless some holy water with his juices in it.|Sockness explains why Chris started following him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cbmq7m/chris_is_following_sockness_on_twitter/ethqxsd/</ref>}}

After establishing direct communication with Chris, Sockness tweeted that he would open a vendor account on [[eBay]] for Chris, acting as warehouse, clearing-house and middleman. Chris responded with gratitude.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-14-chris-will-circumvent-his-ebay-seller-ban-by-teaming-up-with-sockness.58419/ Twitter 7/14 - Chris will circumvent his Ebay seller ban by teaming up with Sockness]</ref> The next day, Chris re-tweeted a GoFundMe campaign by Sockness to raise $300, nominally as a ''shipping fund''.<ref>http://archive.fo/nkTcS</ref> As of [[September 2019]], Sockness has failed to restore Chris's access to eBay, which would have been prohibited at any rate. Sockness has continued to set up GoFundMe pages for [[Chris and money|Chris's incidental expenses]], such as when [[Son-chu|his car]] broke down and needed a thousand dollars worth of repairs.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Car is repaired but Chris needs cash (again)]]</ref>

[[File:JacobWhiteKnight.jpg|thumb|200px|left|White Knight Blue Heart, Sockness's primary Twitter identity while planning to travel to Chris's home.]]
[[File:Sonichu14-2019draft-p15.jpg|thumb|200px|Jakoba in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]].]]

Once Sockness had his foot in the door, he began talking about his alternate dimension fantasies, further enabling Chris.

{{quote|Firstly, and mainly, I am not under Anyone’s Control. And second, I still support the Rokat and all the good peoples in Andromeda. I need to meditate further for more sound responses and thoughts. For now I will simply state that your research is valuable, indeed. Going silent.|Chris, addressing Sockness. He believes he is not under anyone's control while parroting Sockness's lore.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1154376923520352256</ref>}}

Chris featured Jakoba, an OC created by Sockness, in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. As Sockness put it: "She drew Jakoba, from one of mine when her CPU pals wanted to see the Rokat".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cgybzh/chris_drawing_with_his_awkward_pen_grip_while/euxv3zz/</ref> For most of summer 2019, the two interacted relatively little, though other [[weens]] tried to push them closer together.<ref>[[Sarah and Steve]]</ref> In [[August 2019]], Chris, through his [[Magi-Chan]] sockpuppet on Twitter, [[naïve]]ly dismissed Sockness's violent inclinations and approved of Sockness coming to visit.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan responds to Sockness' violent tendencies]]</ref>

== Subsequent interactions and Virginia trip ==
[[File:Socknesstraininfo.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Sockness's ominously one-way train ticket, with dates blacked out. Astute observers have calculated that Sockness should have arrived on Saturday evening (28 September 2019) in [[Charlottesville]] had he continued.]]

On 7 [[September 2019]], Sockness released a [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|fabricated conversation]] between himself and [[Magi-Chan]] from [[May 2019]], in which he declared that he and Chris would need meet in person and marry for the [[Dimensional Merge]] to proceed. Though Chris affirmed thereafter that the counterfeit dialogue was [[TRUE and HONEST|trustworthy]] and [[Financhu Crisis|begged]] for the funding to travel to California,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sockness-manipulated-chris-with-threat-to-stop-the-merge-rping-as-magi-chan.60642/post-5298762</ref> he changed tactics within a few days, stating on Twitter that Chris, [[Chris and reality|in Magi-Chan's body]], had arrived on the West Coast from "behind the [[dimension]]al curtain",<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Longing for the Teen Troon Saga]]</ref> while Chris's body was safely in [[Virginia]]. Nevertheless, Chris remained interested in Sockness coming to visit him at [[14 Branchland Court|home]].<ref>[[Psychic California Trip]]</ref>

As autumn 2019 began, months of casual online role-playing came to a head: on 24 September, Sockness reported that he had bought train tickets to make the transcontinental trip to Chris.<ref>[https://archive.fo/vS8ac Sockness announces he has secured transport on Reddit]</ref> He made clear that his intent was both [[Chris and sex|sexual]] and [[Chris and violence|violent]] on Reddit, comparing his plans for Chris's rear to Germany's devastation by Allied bombings during [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|the War]],<ref>[http://archive.is/kGTRi Sockness: 'I'll just destroy her ass like carpeting bombing Germany in WWII. It'll be in flaming ruin.']</ref> despite being physically incapable of such a feat.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5643632 Sockness reveals incapacity to rape Chris, 27 November 2019]</ref>

[[File:Discord - 25Sept19 - Welfare Check claim.png|thumb|150px|Claim from an anonymous Discord user that a [[welfare check]] was requested.]]
On 25 September, a concerned observer called police for a [[welfare check]] on Chris, and claimed that a deputy promised to contact Chris that day and follow up on 28 September.<ref>https://cwcki.club/index.php?threads/sockness-foiled-virginia-trip-what-really-happened.2424/</ref> Whether the alleged welfare check had an effect on Chris is uncertain.

On 25 September, Chris posted a statement on Twitter along with a short audio clip, [[ChrisReleasesAStatementRegardingJacobSockness]], indicating his desire for Sockness to return home after Sockness had left for Virginia, and saying that somebody in Chicago would provide him with a return ticket.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/post-5384612 Chris declares Sockness's destiny is to go home, asks his followers to stop him in Chicago]</ref> It seemed that Chris had a moment of clarity long enough to realize the magnitude of what was going to happen. He elaborated on his decisions a day later, including a statement from one of Jacob's imaginary gods, Michiro. In his statement, Chris cited [[Chris and health|his health]] as unconducive to having guests, and that Jacob had gone down the path of evil. Chris also said that he foresaw that he and Jacob would end up in a similar situation to how Chris and [[Cole Smithey]] are. On 26 September, Sockness admitted defeat, tweeting that his "involvement with the Dimensional Merge has ended in failure" and that he would delete his Twitter account upon returning home.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/page-6#post-5384295 Sockness quits, tweet screenshot mirrored on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Chris confirmed that Sockness had turned back the next day.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Sockness is going home]]</ref> In a [[honor roll|poorly thought out]] attempt to save face, Sockness later claimed that the train ticket was his own forgery, and that the entire Virginia trip a sham.<ref name=hoax>[[:File:SockHoax.jpg|Tweet by Sockness, 16 October 2019]]</ref>

== Failed romance ==
[[File:BarneySatanism.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|The rift between Jacob and Chris continued to widen on 28 September 2019, when Chris refused to join in Sockness's worship of [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney]], whom Jacob believes to be Satan.]]
[[File:Sockness managing Chris's Patreon.jpeg|thumb|200px|Sockness handling Chris's Patreon funding, as he did with eBay earlier in the year.]]
Despite spending over $1,500 through the course of his failed bid for Chris's attention, Sockness remained determined to win his prize in the end, and managed to slither back into Chris's inner circle of orbiters despite his dangerous behaviour. He apologised for his [[Chris and anger|emotional outbursts]] to reconcile with Chris, and had indicated that he wishes to try visiting Chris again at some indeterminate future time, making sure to bring a mutual friend along with him.<ref>[[:File:SocknessPlans.png]]</ref> When Chris declared on 28 September his wish to attend BABSCon, a ''My Little Pony'' convention then scheduled for April 2020 just outside of San Francisco, Sockness consoled himself that he would see Chris in person after all.<ref>[http://archive.is/j8eth Sockness's Twitter, archived 30 September 2019]</ref> However, they did not converse again for over two weeks after this.
[[File:TruePals.png|thumb|200px|left|Sarah and Steve declare themselves outright to favour Sockness with this original artwork.]]
Halfway through October 2019, Sockness entered the picture again. On 12 October, Chris whined on Twitter about complaints from customers regarding the [[Patreon]] books they had not received.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Chris orders the Shipfic cards, snaps at customers wanting books]]</ref> Sockness, sensing an opportunity to regain access to Chris, discussed the matter with him, and then announced with his approval<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Good News to Patient Patrons (Patreon post)]]</ref> that he would be taking over management of the Patreon's financing, ostensibly to help, in a similar move to his managing Chris's eBay several months earlier. Emboldened, Sockness proclaimed on 16 October that he would fly to Virginia sometime about [[Halloween]].<ref name=hoax /> He promptly resumed hitting on Chris over Twitter, with Chris playing into it: on 19 October, Sockness, commenting on a video clip of cosplayers kissing, said: "How about it Love @CPU_CWCSonichu?", to which Chris answered, "I’m not gonna cosplay as Deadpool or a Zombie, but we can kiss at the future time."<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref> Halloween 2019 came and went with no indication that Sockness had flown to Virginia as he said he would.

Shifting tactics, Sockness determined to cordon Chris off from other social interactions, establishing himself as the only one Chris could trust. On 3 [[November 2019]] he managed to sour Chris's opinion of [[Null]].<ref>[[Null#Chris turns against Null]]</ref> Later that week, Sockness allied with a newly returned [[Sarah and Steve]] in byzantine Twitter dialogues ''defending'' Chris against other enablers who sought to gain influence over him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5562273 Peak autism, 8 November 2019]</ref> Among his many attempts to suppress rivals, Sockness harassed MKRNightVee in direct messages.<ref name=screech>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5646079 Merge table talk, 27 November 2019]</ref> Further seeking to cut Chris off from other contacts, including those who [[Guard Dogs|genuinely mean him well]], Sockness created a list of various [[Kiwi Farms]] and [[Twitter]] users he deemed untrustworthy for criticising his bid for control.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5576554 Sockness's Black Book, 11 November 2019]</ref>

== Jacob as a danger to Chris ==
Jacob is clearly unstable, with psychopathic tendencies. In his own mythos he is the prophet of the god of war and death, Jakoba, it is telling that Jacob named a death god after himself. His books contain many references to himself as an evil entity, most bluntly put in Celestial Studies where he says "Our job is to consume human flesh." In addition to this a lot of his books contain rituals, most have graphic descriptions, all of which are made to kill people in cruel and unusual ways. In a 2018 interview he says that he uses these rituals to kill homeless people when he's bored. Also in that interview he says in no uncertain terms that he would rape Chris if his advances are refused. It is unclear if what he says really happens, what matters is that Jacob thinks that he's killing the homeless and summoning daemons which is just as bad. Chris tries to hand wave these glaring faults in Jacob's online persona by saying that everything bad Jacob has done, he did because he was possessed by Jakoba. Despite Jacob saying that it is impossible for Jakoba to possess him. Jacob claims that Jakoba is responsible for the "red tape" preventing the [[Merge]], and tries to hold it hostage claiming it will only happen once he has had sex with Chris or they sacrifice a small child. Although it is not known for certain what would happen if Jacob and Chris met, it would certainly not be good.

===Friendzoning and second estrangement===
{{quote|I was following the request of Magi-Chan to keep on with Jacob, yet my feelings for him have developed, during the months. As for the present, I had to cool the romance, because even I Knew the whole time it was not meant to be, and Jacob's usefulness had become compromised.|Chris explaining his reasons for involving himself with Sockness to a random [[ween]]<ref name=aqua>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5653000 Chris blames Magi-Chan for Sockness, 30 November 2019]</ref>}}
Pressuring Chris to abandon his other contacts ultimately backfired. Chris received the list itself lukewarmly: while he affirmed that he was in [[Love Quest|love]] with Sockness, he still maintained some reservations.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5574329 Chris endorses Sockness against MKR, 11 November 2019]</ref> He challenged Sockness, noting that the list consisted mostly of Sockness's own enemies and asking whether he would be blacklisted also were he to turn on him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5578153 Chris's challenge for Sockness, 11 November 2019]</ref> Sockness went on to defeat the various pretenders to his position without much fanfare, though in vain: Chris was repulsed by Sockness's professed associations with demons, and issued a statement on 28 November 2019 that he was not in a romantic relationship with him, and moreover that the Dimensional Merge would be endangered if such intimacy were to occur.<ref>[http://archive.is/FVISg Chris rejects Sockness's overtures, 28 November 2019]</ref> His decision was applauded by other enablers, some of whom had become Jacob's targets. Nonetheless, Chris still counted Sockness as a friend, and thought of himself as protecting him against demons.<ref name=screech />

As had come to pass two months earlier, when Chris disrupted his journey to Virginia, Sockness responded to the word that he had been rejected with [[tard rage]]. He delivered an [[Chris and negotiation|ultimatum]] to Chris, threatening to revoke his tacit permission to use his fictional setting in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and pursue him for [[Things Chris has ripped off|copyright infringement]] if he continued to use them, unless they got married.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/11-29-sockness-takes-his-ball-and-goes-home.63588/post-5650528 Sockness turns on Chris, 29 November 2019]</ref> While Chris agreed [[Stress|apathetically]] no longer to use Jacob's demonic characters in his own works, he displayed in an autistic Parthian shot his usual [[honor roll|comprehension level]] of how [[Chris and copyright|intellectual property]] works: Chris's own experiences and memories of Jacob's [[dimensions|fictional universe]] were inviolable. Sockness remained adamant, sternly reiterating the [[Chris and the law|legal limits]] on what Chris could do [[Chris and money|financially]] with his characters in an endeavour to bring him back into his flabby arms. Holding firm, Chris stolidly divested himself of him by writing off their past business together as being at [[Magi-Chan]]'s request and describing Sockness as having outlived his usefulness.<ref name=aqua /> The two did not speak each other for over three weeks, and their friendship was dealt a hard blow.

[[December 2019]] saw Chris's relations with Sockness continue to sour. On 15 December 2019 Chris requested Sockness be removed from [[The Place]] as he had noticed he was still in the members list.<ref>[[The Place chats - Jacob Sockness#Chris asks for Jacob to be kicked]]</ref> Defying Sockness's order not to use his fantasy world, on 16 December 2019 Chris released [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card]], declaring that his final triumph over Jacob and his infernal horde was assured.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5727293 Chris commemorates his victory, 16 December 2019]</ref> Later that month, Sockness sought to spark conflict between Chris and [[Other enablers#MKRNightVee|an enabler]], but Chris recognised and dismissed these as the fabrications they were.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5755364 Sockness denounced as forger, 22 December 2019]</ref> On 23 December 2019, [[Marvin]] blocked Sockness's Twitter account. Sockness then angrily texted Chris to confront him over the block, but Chris decided to ignore him.<ref>[[The Place chats - Jacob Sockness#Marvin blocks Sockness, fated Pokemon card]]</ref> Even Jacob's plan to confront Chris again at BABScon was derailed: the convention was cancelled in [[March 2020]] due to the risk of [[COVID-19]].<ref>[https://www.babscon.com/2020/ BABScon 2020 is cancelled due to SARS 2 outbreak, 18 March 2020].</ref> Unlike the [[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris|deep scars]] left to the ''Sonichu'' canon by the Idea Guys, Sockness's contributions, if not rejected outright, seemed to have been turned on their head and made impotent to warp Chris's thought any more than it [[Chris and reality|already is]]. For once, it appeared that Chris had actually managed to evade one of his malicious orbiters.

==Brief Reemergence==

{{quote|No. At least, not yet.|Chris, 15 July 2020, to a fan asking whether he and Sockness are dating.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1282966598911815680</ref>}}
Though Sockness had managed to make a reappearance in early 2020 and had attempted to get his foot in the door, it wasn't until Summer 2020 when Chris finally started humouring him in public again. Even so, Chris became increasingly dissatisfied with some of Sockness's behaviour, openly rebuking him over [[Twitter]].

{{Quote|Therefore, all of your information is false, and, once again, you can shut the hell up about this bull shit. End of discussion. ⚡⚡⚡|<s>Chris</s> Sonichu, rebuking Sockness over Twitter over his creepy behaviour and attempts at manipulation.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts#Jacob sex obsessions]]</ref>}}

[[File:14BCFloorplan.png|thumb|150px|The supposed "proof" Jacob gave for visiting 14BLC.]]

As a result of Sockness's secretive behaviour, much of what he has done with regards to attempting to get his foot back in the door with Chris can only be ascertained from Chris's comments and retweets on Sockness's posts; in early July 2020, Chris rebuked Sockness while [[Spirit possession|playing as]] [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] for his creepy behaviour, and then told him in no uncertain terms to 'shut the hell up' when Sockness attempted to trick him into believing he had a 10 year old illegitimate son, born from his fling with the prostitute [[Mia Hamm]]. Even though Chris remained under Sockness's thrall, still believing other enabler-forced events to be true in the same breath, it was clear that once again, he managed to discern reality from fiction for just long enough to shoot down Sockness's misbehavior, if only for a few moments. With the cancellation of [[BABSCon]] due to [[COVID-19]], he claimed to have caused storms over China for stopping his plan to "meet the goddess."

==Second Blocking Onwards==
In [[August 2020]], Chris got in yet another [[Twitter]] spat with [[Ben Saint]]. This time, Sockness decided to butt in and add his own flavor of idiocy to the slapfight. This proved to be the last straw for Chris, who called Jacob out once more before blocking him. Afterwards, this turned Sockness off on Chris for good as he later posted occasional rants against Chris on his Twitter and his personal Subreddit, attacking Chris for his opposition to [[Pmurt]], who Jacob supports with a religious fervor, and coming up with plans to disrupt the [[Dimensional Merge]]. However, Sockness eventually cycled back into displaying his affection to Chris in a vain attempt to win back his heart. Sockness continued to try to and worm his way back into Chris’s life, but with his public Twitter account being suspended on [[January 2021]] and Chris deciding not to respond to his tweets and texts, no progress was ever made.

[[File:Sockness comic death.jpg|thumb|left|200px|[[Helena]] clarifies why Chris considers Sockness dead.]]

In [[June 2021]], Chris made a social media post naming Jacob as being among the five most negatively impactful people in his life,<ref>[[June_2021_social_media_posts#Discussing_trolls_and_other_stuff]]</ref> casting severe doubt on the likelihood of any potential reconciliation between the two.

During [[August 2021]], as the fallout of the [[Incest call]] being leaked was occurring, Jacob responded to a Reddit thread asking about what he thought of the situation, stating that he no longer wanted to be involved with Chris, and that he was glad that the [[September 2019]] train trip failed.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jacob-sockness-michiro-hutaki-agian-siin-jacob-js-darkseed2012-ramleironheart.48287/page-96#post-9585377</ref> A few weeks later, Jacob made a video to spread a rumor that a member of [[Praetor]] was responsible for Chris having sex with Barbara.<ref>https://www.bitchute.com/video/SdSo0OsJhNcL/</ref> Since then, Jacob has been periodically swinging between wanting to bang Chris once again, to hating his guts and wanting to replace him in his demented pantheon.

== Third trolling cycle ==
[[File:IMG 5542.png|thumb|left|200px|Sockness sends Chris a photo of his ass.]]
[[File:Socknesssightingmay.png|thumb|200px|A Christorian meets Sockness in person.]]

Any newfound optimism onlookers might have found in Chris's ability to discern his [[enablers]]' true intent turned out to be misguided. Through early [[2020]], Chris had fallen further into [[Mysticism|occult]] practises. On 31 [[March 2020]], Chris built a pagan altar in his bedroom according to instructions found in one of Sockness's books.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6224799 Chris's altar, 31 March 2020]</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/JSockess/status/1245166234393444352 Sockness affirms the altar is after his model]</ref> Soon thereafter, on 6 [[April 2020]], Chris followed Jacob again on [[Twitter]].<ref name=return>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6251631 Sockness returns to Chris's interest, 6 April 2020]</ref> What precisely Sockness was doing at this time is unknown, as he restricted public access to his Twitter account on 19 April.<ref>[https://archive.li/V2QxB Sockness's restricted profile, 19 April 2020]</ref>

Jacob also declared that he would attempt to attend the brony convention [[Everfree Northwest]] in disguise the following year.<ref>{{Cite Reddit|subreddit=Kidasuna|title= Going to Ever Free|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}</ref> In response, Chris asked [[Bella]] to act as a bodyguard.<ref>[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]</ref> According to a conversation between Bella and [[Fiona]], Chris had told them all about Sockness, prompting Fiona to declare him as the "worst of A-logs".<ref name = "chess">[[Chess Group 15 Chats#Sockness]]</ref> Jacob continued to post about Chris, even during [[Jail Saga|his arrest in jail]], writing a letter to him in jail, which he claimed he would only post on an undisclosed paywall when he receives it. He also claimed that he had visited [[14 Branchland Court]] at some point, posting a recreation of the visit, which involves the general layout of the house, in Microsoft Paint.<ref>{{Cite Reddit|title=Floor Plan 14 BL|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Kidasuna/comments/u8jqsa/floor_plan_14_bl/}}</ref>

In [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]], Chris claimed Sockness had died. [[Helena]] stated in response to a fan that this was because a fictional version of Sockness was requested to die in her comic and Chris was told the death happened in the comic.

== Bible ==
At an unknown time, Chris had read a Bible that Sockness had sent to him. The Bible seems to consist of 7 books, numbered from 0 to 6. Each of these books is split up into somewhere between 4 to 6 smaller sections. The Bible was first retrieved by [[Naught]] on 14 [[November 2020]] and later posted on the [[Official CWCki Server]]. It was later recovered on 15 March 2023 by CWCki mod [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] and a former Watchman member. As a result of being discarded for three years, and many hoaxes surrounding Chris, the Bible had long since been considered a hoax itself.

== Post-Jail return ==
After Chris was [[Jail_Saga#Bonded_out_or_Released_by_court_order|released from jail]] and [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart|spotted at Walmart]], Sockness made two [[Instagram]] posts about Chris, the first was a screenshot of Sockness sending Chris a photo of his ass, the second was a repost of one of the Walmart photos.<ref>https://www.instagram.com/uaeoh415/</ref>

In an amusing twist of irony, someone spotted Sockness ''himself'' on 23 June, and uploaded two photos of him to Reddit.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20230624025317/https://www.reddit.com/gallery/14hhgmt</ref> In the photo, Sockness looks as hugely obese as he already is, with his belly massive, and wearing a [[Sonichu medallion]].

==See also==
*[[ChrisReleasesAStatementRegardingJacobSockness]]
*[[Kidasuna]]
*[[Nightvee & the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring lore from Jacob Sockness.
*[[Sockness DMs]]
*[[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan]]

==External links==
[https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Hxz4vhP6IkJwzxIgtX8HjXmB1k8sOMSz Jacob's Google drive, including all of the books]

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Crumple-Lope

2026-01-08T04:52:00Z

Dodo Conservative:

[[File:Christine Weston Chandler’s Lot Of 32 Porn Drawings 07.jpg|right|thumb|The Crumple-Lope.]]
[[File:Christine Weston Chandler’s Lot Of 32 Porn Drawings 01.jpg|thumb|Some of the materials from inside the Crumple-Lope, including [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]], carefully cut into squares]]

The '''Crumple-Lope''' is, well, a crumpled and yellowed manila envelope. Kept within the [[Scrapbook of Fail]], inside the envelope resides the remains of the original [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]]<ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref>, as well as several other "shamed past relationship art works."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref> Given the description, this could've likely meant the ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' Specials ([[Sonichu Special 1]], [[Wedding Comic]], [[Giant Penis Comic]], [[Sonichu Special 4]]), the [[Cherokian Clan#UNGA-WUNGA|"UNGA-WUNGA" drawings]], and many more, all of which were purportedly torn up for good measure.

The Crumple-Lope showed Chris's willingness to act out his anger on [[Lil Chris|in]][[Sign Destruction Video|animate]] [[September 2013 Facebook Posts|objects]], but inability of throwing anything out (inherited from [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]).

As of November 19th 2015, the scrapbook had been revealed to have survived the fire, bringing joy to Sonichu [[Kiwi Farms|fans]] everywhere, who had previously thought the artifact to have been destroyed.

The contents of the Crumple-Lope were offered for sale on [[eBay]], alongside several other erotic artworks, on 23 [[April 2018]]. Those were purchased for $1000 by [[Lukas]], who would initiate a new [[saga]]. The Internet learned that SheCameForCWC wasn't torn or shredded, but rather cut up into neat little squares that can be easily reassembled like a puzzle. Other works in the envelope were left completely intact.

==References==
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Alex's Lemonade Stand

2026-01-08T04:29:09Z

Dodo Conservative:

[[File:Cwcville Helps.png|thumb|"Cwcville Helps," [[February 2012]].]]
{{Quote|I, as a [[Money|charitable]] individual, like helping others, and Children are our future. So, I am participating during the weekend to help the cause to cure cancer in children, so they all can grow into fine, [[Health|healthy adults]].|[[Chris]], not being ironic.}}

'''{{w|Alex's Lemonade Stand}}''' is a charity program founded by Alexandra "Alex" Scott to raise awareness of childhood cancer. One of the organization's business partners was [[Lego]], which used its then-recently-launched, female-targeted "Lego [[gal-pal|Friends]]" line to help. Chris, being the [[Tomgirl]] and fan of Lego that he is, set up a lemonade stand in [[June 2012]] in hopes of raising money in honor of his deceased [[Robert Chandler|father]]. This event is notable for being one of the exceedingly rare times where Chris actually attempted to do something [[Chris and his Ego|selfless]] for once, as well as one of the only times when Chris followed through on a promise and positively contributed towards the community.

==The event==
[[File:ChrisLemonadeStand.jpg|300px|right]]

On 4 [[February 2012]], a special "LEGO Friends Event at Toys 'R' Us Stores" was held, at which "children ages 5-up" would be able to physically build toy Lego lemonade stands to take home with them.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20120206114237/http://www.alexslemonade.org/lego%C2%AE-friends-event-toysrus-stores LEGO® Friends Event at Toys"R"Us Stores! - Alex's Lemonade Stand]</ref> Lego would donate one dollar to the charity for each one built. Being older than five, Chris participated and proudly told his [[Facebook]] friends about it.<ref>[[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Lego Lemonade Stand]]</ref> It was through this event that Chris learned of the option to host an actual lemonade stand, and he immediately registered one.

According to the original event page, entitled "[[CWCville|Cwcville]] Helps," Chris was to run the lemonade stand for three days--from 9 a.m. until 5 p.m on the weekend of 8-10 June 2012, more work than Chris had done since [[Cutco]] had ditched him nine years earlier. The stand was originally to be set up outside [[Chris's house]]; moved to the old [[Wikipedia:Circuit City Stores|Circuit City]] building, 100 Albemarle Square, [[Charlottesville]]; and then moved again to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]]. The initial fundraising goal of $50 was quickly met after donations from Chris's friends, neighbors, and fans, as well as more sinister figures like [[Clyde Cash]] and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]]. As of 2 June, the total donated amount exceeded $150, but Chris never changed his original donation goal.

[[Image:132950942315.png|frame|center|Shit was so cash!]]

The page was temporarily deleted or set to private for reasons unknown; it is possible that Chris decided that [[Chris and money|raising money]] for ''[[Chris and death|dying children]]'' wasn't worth the [[stress]] of hearing mean things from [[trolls]]. It resurfaced at the beginning of June with the new location listed as his church.

Chris successfully hosted the lemonade stand (with some help from his congregation and UVA students), but it took place only on 10 June, and only for a few hours.<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Alex's Lemonade Stand]]</ref> He informed Facebook, "Including my ten dollar donation, I have raised $50.00 for the foundation."

==References==

[[File:Comments removed Alex Lemonade Stand 2-24.PNG|right|thumb|Comments that did not quite make the cut.]]

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==External links==
*[http://www.alexslemonade.org/mypage/80275 Cwcville's page on Alex's Lemonade Stand] (redirects to a login page)

{{The Internet}}
[[Category:Chris's house]]
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Mailbag 26

2026-01-08T04:18:11Z

Dodo Conservative: /* ...then, promptly shuts down again */

'''Mailbag 26''' Was posted to the [[CWCipedia]] on 28 [[December 2009]] by the CWCipedia's Sysop. It was answered two days later, on the 30th.

Amongst this batch, Chris explained why he put up [[Kill de Jack|his Christmas video]], denied that he had fleas, revealed that he doesn't know what "asexual" means, and yet showed his usual intolerance towards gays and transgenders. Chris's ability to notice who's writing him was terribly inconsistent here. He called out "Stephen King," but didn't catch an equally-obvious letter from Chris Brown. Likewise, a letter from someone claiming to be [[Magi-Chan]] was deleted forever, but a letter from [[Blake]] was answered without any comment as to its writer. It's likely Chris only recognized the letter from Stephen King because an episode of Family Guy was specifically dedicated to King and his works.

Notable in this set is that Chris finally responded to [[Evan]], but only to implore Evan to reconsider wanting him to kill off [[Simonla]] for the sole reason that it would take away [[Wild]]'s girlfriend.

==Answered==
===How the Chris-Chan stole Christmas===
{{Email|From: {{w|Aliens (film)|Trevor Wierzbowski}} <silentbughunters@yahoo.co.uk>
Christian,

I use to be a big fans of yours, but after the video you posted on Christmas day to [[Jack]], I must say I am disgusted in you. What made you post a video like that on a day like Christmas? Christmas is a day of joy and remembering the birth of our lord Jesus Christ, but you thought it was a day of posting [[death threats]] on a website where all your fans, both young and old, could watch it! What do you think [[Chris and religion|God and Jesus]] would think of such things? I can tell you that they are more then likely very disappointed in you, as am I and no doubt many other fans are.

-Trevor}}
{{EmailReply|I felt the anger at that moment late in the day, and I wanted it up ASAP to inform [[Clyde]] and Jack that they both are B******s, and what they have been doing is NOT helping me see their [[Homos]]exual Male kind as good people. ON the contrary, they BOTH only make me see Anger RED with them. I apologize for doing that on Christmas Day, but I had already celebrated it with my family, and I had the thought and energy at that Late Part of the Day to Tell Those Two Down.}}

===Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL===
{{Email|From: cutesonicfan@aim.com

Ohayou gozaimasu, Christian-kun!

It is me again, Mitsuki Tojo! I wish to thank you most humbly for your response to my email in [[Mailbag 3]]. I cannot thank you enough for you honorable words. I feel forever in your debt, Christian-Kun! I have some other questions, if I may. You gave me such a pleasant response, and answered each question with such tenderness. I admire you, Christian-Kun.

1.I am planning on enrolling in your [[Virginia]] university system at [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]. If you could, would you go back to college all over again? And if so, what would your major be?

2. In Japan, when a young man searches for his woman, he starts a host honorable quest called the [[Homos|"Boku wa okamadesu"]], or the love quest of truth. How is yours going?

3. Do you like Japanese [[sweetheart|women]]?

Forever yours truly,

Mitsuki Tojo <3}}
''"Boku wa okamadesu" means "I am gay/an *extremely* effeminate man" in Japanese. Chris just [[Molvanîa#Molvanîan expressions|doesn't pick up on these things]].''
{{EmailReply|You are kind, and I deeply appreciate that. :) 1) While, for me alone, my College Days were miserable and lonely, and also contained hatred and interference from a later-met adversary, I personally would not want to go back to PVCC. Besides which, that b**** "Dean", [[Mary Lee Walsh]], AFTER I personally went over and handed her a Framed Hand-Drawn Apology of my angst against her, SHE SENT ME A TRESPASSING NOTICE! While my family and I did NOT accept it, and sent it back to her, I must say that is one hell of a "Thank You" for going through the trouble and gas usage to Personally Apologize and Make Peace. But I digress. *deep breath* I am not certain of the list of Majors there, but I did major in Computer Aided Drafting and Design ([[CADD]]). I recommend that you look over all the major options, and choose one that best suits you and your career desires or dreams. 
2) That is poetic, and sounds accurate and most similar to my ideals for my [[Sweetheart]] Search (which I used to refer to as "[[Love Quest]]"). My mind is taking in the epiphanies, facts and all that well, and I am taking deep considerations and thoughts with all that in mind. Whereas, in real life, I still am single, with only one date that ended with a "I'm just not that into you", and lowest bed-play. So I'd say it's going so-so. 
3) Yes, I like Japanese women, and I would welcome them as friends, for dating, and maybe [[Hanky-panky|something more and deep]].

--[[User:ChrisChanSonichu|ChrisChanSonichu]] 02:07, 31 December 2009 (CET)}}

===In which Chris's brain starts to work!===
{{Email|From: {{w|Stephen King}} <king.stephen@windowslive.com>

Merry Christmas, Mr. Chandler! My name is Stephen King. I am somewhat of a writer, and I have always been fascinated with your writing style. You have wonderful ideas, an amazing eye for detail, and great characters with believable personalities.

I too once had many great ideas, but over the years I did them all. Some people say I should retire, but writing is my life. All I need is one good idea. So please, Mr. Chandler, you are the only person I know of, with enough drive and creativity, to help me write a novel. Tell me, what should I write about? It can be anything, but I prefer horror.

Thanks and have a good day.

Your sincere fan, Stephen Edwin King.}}
{{EmailReply|REALLY? THE Stephen King? Author of such horrors as "The Mist", "Carrie", "The Shining" and "Vertigo"? Such a FAMOUS WRITER taking an interest in my own Hand-Drawn and Hand-Written works and sending me, a considerably lowly High-Functioning Autsitic Individual with [[honor roll|Good Grades in High School, College and whatnot]]? Forgive me for my skepticism, but I am NO FOOL; I was tricked before by TROLLS who pretended to be [[Nintendo]]'s Shigure Miyamoto, previous trusted ex gal-pals/girlfriends, a European Playstation Magazine (that went Out Of Print beforehand) Journalist, etc, etc, etc.

I will answer your question when you come clean and tell me your real name; what your Blood Mother Calls You, and NOT pretend to be a celebrity or thieve anyone's identity.

--[[User:ChrisChanSonichu|ChrisChanSonichu]] 02:07, 31 December 2009 (CET)}}

''Stephen King has never written a book called "Vertigo". He has collaborated with a comics publisher called Vertigo to create ''{{w|American Vampire}}'', but Chris is probably getting King mixed up with Alfred Hitchcock.''

===...then, promptly shuts down again===
{{Email|From: {{w|Chris Brown (entertainer)|Christopher Brown}} <chrisbrownluvsrhianna@yahoo.com>

Hey Chris,

My name's Chris also. Chris Brown. I LOVE the Sonichu Comics. I've noticed that you've gotten in some trouble with women. I have also.

Here's my story. Me and my girlfriend, {{w|Rihanna|Rhianna}}, were on the way to a fancy dinner. We got into an argument on the way there, and I ended up getting so furious with that woman that I hit her multiple times and bit her also. The police were called, and I was arrested and taken to jail. I've been having alternating mood swings. Some days, I feel like calling her up and apologizing, but other times, I want to [[Chris and anger|STRANGLE]] THAT RIHANNA and tear her head off. However, I don't know if I want to do that, for I have my career to think about. I'm a musician, much like yourself. I'd say you have as much talent as me, if not more. Anyways, right now, I feel like driving to her house and beating her up again! What do I do to release these urges in a non-violent way? Have you ever hit a girl before? HELP!!!!!!

Chris Brown}}
{{EmailReply|Firstly, [[:File:MachPunch.jpg|NEVER HIT A WOMAN]]. I suggest forgetting about her; after the way you've acted, I'd say she wants to be nowhere near you, and I would not blame her for getting a Restraining Order against you. You should consult a Psychiatrist, tell him your troubles, and let him help you sort out your mind.}}

===It isn't theft if Chris dumps a boyfriend on them===
{{Email|From: [[Evan|Evang7]] <evang7@gmail.com>

To Christopher Christian [[Ricardo]] Weston Chandler,

How can you claim you're TRUE and [[Honest content|HONEST]] so much? The very existence
of this "[[Rejected Mailbag|Let Me Get Back To You On That]]" mailbag is admission that you lie. Whenever someone calls you out on a lie you make, you either claim it's a troll or stuff it away where you can't see it.

You're not only lying to others, you're not even being TRUE or HONEST to yourself. Come out from your [[(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise|Trollsta's Paradise]] and face the fact that you're just as much of a jerk to your TRUE and LOYAL Sonichu
[[Fanbase]] as the [[Trolls]] are to you.

Think of this from MY perspective. When a fan makes comics about [[Rosechu]] as a MAN, you get angry, don't you? And if they were to say "I will turn Rosechu into a girl like she's supposed to be", that won't undo the damage.

Replacing Simonla with [[Simonchu]] won't fix anything, I don't want EITHER CHARACTER to be in your comics. I will be kind enough to let you finish Simonla's storyline and end it in a permanent fashion resulting in her [[death]]. And she has to die IN THE PAGES, not off-screen. I am STILL serious about this.

You've been running from me for months. Get Back To Me On This immediately, stop being a coward and prove you care about your fans
for once.

-Hugs and Kisses,

Evan}}
{{EmailReply|You are asking me to take Wild's girlfriend and Sweetheart away from him. Do not be such a monster.}}

===Chris hates da homos: Part 9001===
{{Email|From: bella <somatological@yahoo.com>

I was just wondering, if two people residing in [[CWCville]] had a loving, caring and respectful [[homos]]exual relationship, would you, as the mayor of this town, mind at all? Or are there any laws stating that you cannot be homosexual in CWCville?

Just an honest question.
Peace,
Bella}}
{{EmailReply|Gay Marriage is ILLEGAL IN Cwcville, VA.}}

===Chris uses advantage===
{{Email|From: Frank Muller <frankiefurter28@yahoo.com>

I noticed that in your [[To Clyde and Jack.MOV]] video, you scratch your head a total of ten times in about three minutes, and not in one of those "I'm thinking" ways but in the way a cat or dog digs for fleas. Have you contracted fleas?}}
{{EmailReply|I do not have fleas.}}

===New Year's wishes===
{{Email|From: mewthreepio@aol.com

You've probably been asked this already, but what is your New Years resolution for 2010?}}
{{EmailReply|Currently, I am undecided.}}

===Moar pron plz, kthnx===
{{Email|From: docdanchallis@aim.com

Hello Christian

First I'd like to say that you are doing a great job with the comic! Sonichu is without a doubt the best comic I've been reading in years!

Anyway, I've noticed that you censored the 17th Ep of Sonichu. Now, I understand that the comic might, first and foremost, be geared towards children so that was probably the right thing to do. But I think that the older readers might enjoy some of that adult stuff. I know I do!

Perhaps, you could make a special issue just for the older fans? It could contain the original 17th episode and a new episode featuring nudity and perhaps some [[hanky-panky]]. I think that some of your best displays of art, in the comic anyway, are the romantic stuff! As an adult male, I really enjoy looking at [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|Rosechu's sweet pussy and breasts]]!

Please consider it. Thank you and keep up the good work!

Regards,

Daniel Challis}}
{{EmailReply|It has been under consideration, and will be dealt with soon enough.}}

===Chris and asexuality===
{{Email|From: that guy <whyisthatguy@hotmail.com>

What do you think of people who are asexual? (look it up on [[wikipedia]] if you don't know what that is.)}}
{{EmailReply|I get an ERECTION when I see WOMEN STRIPPING, or are already NAKED. ''Yet to answer your question, I have no objections with asexual, but I do feel pity for those individuals.''}}
''The italicized part of this response was added long after the original response, on 4 [[January 2010]]. It is not known why he finally decided to actually answer the question instead of just being insecure about his sexuality.''

===Why Chris hates prostitutes===
{{Email|From: Bla Chu <blachu@ymail.com>
Hello Christian

Given the amount of agonising you do over your straightness and virginity and your new goal to upload the first time you have sex on to RedTube, why don't you hire a [[Chris and sex#prostitution|prostitute]]? You seem to have enough money for tons of [[video games]], a [[PS3|ps3]] and a big TV, so I'm sure you could afford to hire a decent one.

It just always struck me as strange that you won't hire one.

Regards

[[Blake]]}}
{{EmailReply|Are you kidding? Hiring a prostitute shows Lack of Emotional Meaning between me and her; I want my intercourse with TRUE LOVE Emotions Between me and her.}}

===Reusing the same excuses for everything else!===
{{Email|From: [[Hamsty the Hamster]] <hamstythehamster@gmail.com>

Yo yo yo! I just wanted to let you know, that you supportin' transgender people is a'ight!}}
{{EmailReply|I Do Not Care Much for Transgender People or Hermaphrodites, but I do not discriminate them as individual people.}}

==Rejected Mailbag==
===Chris: friend of homos everywhere===
{{Email|From: duo1138@yahoo.com

Chris, I've tried to fight the homo urges, but it's just become too hard. And after seeing the ads on CWCipedia, I've come to realize there is only one possible truth about myself.

I am gay.

Thank you for putting those ads up.

Hugs and kisses
Queenie}}

==Gone forever==
===Magi-Chan: voice of the people===
{{Email|From: [[Magi-Chan|Magi Chan]] <mcmagichan@googlemail.com>
Dear Christian Weston Chandler,

[[For Julie's Eyes Only|You disgust me.]]

Sincerely yours,
The REAL Magi-Chan.}}

{{Mailbag}}

Sonic the Hedgehog

2026-01-07T13:44:44Z

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''For the 2020 live-action movie, see [[Sonic the Hedgehog (film)]].''
{{Honest}}
{{quote|[I] looked up to Sonic the Hedgehog as my lifelong hero, because he's not only quck in the feet, but also [[Slow-in-the-minds|in the head]].|[[Christian Weston Chandler]]<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 20]]</ref>}}
{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
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! colspan="2" | ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' character
|-
| colspan="2" | [[File:Sanek.png|200px]]
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! colspan="2" |Sonic
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| '''Gender'''
| Male
|-
| '''Length'''
| 3'3" (100 cm)
|-
| '''Weight'''
| 77 lbs (35 kg)
|-
| '''Species'''
| Hedgehog
|-
|'''Arm color'''
| Blue
|}
'''Sonic the Hedgehog''' is a [[Sonic Boom Protests|blue-armed]] fictional character that was created by [[Video games|Sega]] in order to serve as their main mascot (replacing {{w|Alex Kidd}}), as well as to compete against [[Nintendo]]'s [[Super Mario Bros.|Mario]]. He is also one of the primary characters from which the much-beloved [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]] hero [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] draws inspiration.

Like many lolcows on the internet, Chris is a big fan of the ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' franchise. Chris claims that Sonic has been his "life long hero"<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPv7MqvrDK0&feature=player_embedded#!</ref> since June [[1990]] (''sic''),<ref>''Sonic the Hedgehog'' wasn't released until June [[1991]] – see {{w|Sonic the Hedgehog (video game)|here}}. Interestingly, this is also a question on Chris's [[Quizzes#Sonic the Hedgehog History|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' MyBuzz quiz]] which Chris assigns the right answer of June 1991.</ref> replacing [[The Adventures of The American Rabbit|the American Rabbit]] in terms of overall importance.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Conception_and_Creation CWCipedia article on Sonichu]</ref> Chris confirmed his loyalty to Sonic in 2014 when Sega's outrageous decision to change a non-canonical Sonic's arm color to blue forced Chris to [[Sonic Boom Protests|vandalize stores and physically injure employees]].

==History==
Chris first discovered Sonic through a [[Sega]] Genesis demo at a Sears in the [[Fashion Square Mall]], which was showcasing the game Sonic the Hedgehog (1991). The game's basic plot being Sonic running around to defeat [[Doctor Robotnik]], who was portrayed as a [[Obesity|plump]], [[Chris and his ego|egotistical]] man who would endeavor to conquer Mobius and destroy Sonic, failing spectacularly each time.

In 1993, two cartoon adaptations of the games aired concurrently with each other: ''{{w|Sonic the Hedgehog (TV series)|Sonic the Hedgehog}}'' (often referred to as ''Sonic SatAM''), a generally serious and story-driven show that aired on ABC, and ''{{w|Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog}}'', a more lighthearted and gag-driven show that aired in syndication. The latter's debut was promoted with a [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|contest]] that same year, with the grand prize being a [[Chris and money|$1,000 video game shopping spree]]. Chris was one of the two winners of the shopping spree and was featured in a news story about the contest, one of the biggest moments (if not ''the'' biggest moment) in his early life, spreading its influence far and wide, from his decisions to enter other contests, to the eventual creation of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''. Chris's loyalty was so strong that he was visibly upset when told by middle school bullies that Sonic was dead.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 9|Jackie Chat #9]]</ref>

During the late '90s, Chris's obsession with Sonic waned as he became more interested in other franchises, particularly [[Pokémon]]. However, it came back with a vengeance in February [[2000]], when he received a Sega Dreamcast along with a copy of ''Sonic Adventure'' for his [[My big 18th party|18th birthday]]. Chris [[Christian's Favorite Hits|created]] [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] less than a month later, and has remained hooked on the series ever since.

Chris has shown relatively little attention to the title character of Sonic's rival franchise ''[[Mario|Super Mario]]'', which is curious considering his [[Brand loyalty|militant hatred]] for the [[HEXbox]] in favor of the [[PlayStation]]; however, Chris does own a few Mario games in his video game collection. It is also known that Chris owns ''Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped'', Crash being another rival of Sonic's.

In a [[Announcement 20160709|video]] released in July 2016, Chris indirectly (and somewhat, though not 100%, incorrectly) acknowledges that the later Sonic the Hedgehog games are poorly received; however, he hilariously doesn't grasp the concept, insisting that his original creation could "pull Sonic out of the ground."

==Notable multimedia==
===Comics===
[[File:Sth189.jpg|thumb|200px|right|More likely than not a bigger inspiration than the games series itself.]]

Sonic comics are almost as numerous as the games themselves, pumped out at a whim for a buck; they even made series specific for each region of the world. The one Chris is familiar with is the one published by Archie Comics, published in, obviously, [[United States of America|America]].

Chris has hinted at and mentioned that he is familiar with this comic series, and the layout of his comics tends to replicate the style of early Archie ''Sonic'' covers. Reldnahc's calling Chris "Prime-Chan" in the comic may be a reference to the character [https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Scourge_the_Hedgehog| Scourge the Hedgehog], an evil version of Sonic from another dimension; Sonic is referred to as "Sonic Prime" when dealing with inter-dimensional storylines. Chris has also been known to trace images from an early special of the comic, "Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles", for the basis of some of his fight scenes, and one of the early shorts, entitled "Sonichu 25 Years Later," takes its name from a 2004 arc called "Mobius 25 Years Later." Whether he still reads the comics now or not is unknown. He has stated that he would like ''Sonichu'' to be published by Archie Comics.<ref>[[IRC (22 December 2008)]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble Chat #6]]</ref> If Chris still reads it, it will probably be a source of plagiarism and [[mass debating]] for years to come.

Starting in [[April 2010]], [[Sony]] began releasing the Archie ''Sonic'' comics for download via the [[Playstation Network]].<ref>[http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/04/22/playstation-comics-store-update-17/ PlayStation Comics Store Update]</ref> The likelihood that Chris has purchased them? [[Chris and money|Close to 100%.]]

===Sonic X===
'''Sonic X''', an [[anime]] based on the Sonic the Hedgehog video game series, premiered in [[2003]] in [[Japan]] and later in [[America]]. Chris would later steal the Japanese theme song, Sonic Drive, for his song [[Sonichu Zip]] on the [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]] album. In [[2005]], he watched the show's final episode, and he reviewed it for his ''[[Sonichu's News Dash]]'' newsletter.<ref>[[Sonichu's News Dash#Chris says goodbye to Sonic X]]</ref> In [[2008]], he sold two of his action figures from the series—Knuckles and Tails.

===Sonic Boom===
{{Main|Sonic Boom Protests}}

In [[June 2014]], Chris announced he was boycotting the TV and video game series ''Sonic Boom'' because of the fact that they changed the color of Sonic's arms from a flesh color to blue. Chris claims that this "U-turn" in design has caused him to "literally lose a bunch of sleep and peace of mind."<ref>[[Keep Sonic Original#Sensory overload]]</ref> This was later enforced in [[October 2014|October]] when he posted two photos of himself holding up a Sonic doll with a grim face. Note that ''Sonic Boom'' is not considered canon and the color change is probably not permanent. Furthermore, the fact that Chris focuses exclusively on Sonic's blue arms instead of any of the other changes made to the character designs raises a lot of questions. It is also worth mentioning that even Chris's [[white knight|white knights]], including [[William Elliott Waterman]], criticised him for overreacting instead of defending him. The discouragement evidently only fanned the flames, however; Chris's anger towards the game only worsened and ended up getting him in deep trouble (see below).

On 17 [[November 2014]], in a post to the Facebook group ''Keep Sonic Original'', Chris revealed that his [[tard rage]] extended to getting into a dispute with several "Blue Arm Promoters" (The "security" [[jerkop|janekop]] and the [[manajerks|manajerk]]) at the [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] [[Get-Tar Region|Target]]). The focus of Chris's debate was the "Sensory Overloading of the Blue Arms" and how the Target store should NOT stock games based on popular demand, but instead based on Chris's whims and requests. Although Chris claims that the discussion ended peacefully he still went on to encourage the people of ''Keep Sonic Original'' to help their noble cause by harassing the two janekops involved into sending the ''Sonic Boom'' stock back to the manufacturers, as if mall security had any influence over that.

Chris's rage fulminated when, on [[26 December 2014]], he went to his local [[GameStop]] (which he was [[banned]] from) to vandalise ''Sonic Boom'' store merchandise, maced a bystanding employee on his way out, and got arrested for [[Chris and the Law|breaking 3 laws]] in a single day.

===Sonic CD===
Sonic CD, a [[1993]] video game featuring a time travel mechanic, was released on September 23, 1993, for the Sega CD. It is Chris's favorite [[video game]] of all time, as of 14 [[March 2025]].<ref>[[Jesus Christ Chan - Sonic 2006 Speed Run]]</ref> Amy Rose and Metal Sonic made their first appearance in Sonic CD; Chris would steal them to create [[Rosechu]] and [[Metal Sonichu]]. Chris also gives Sonic Mania credit for "taking inspiration" from Sonic CD.

===Sonic Forces===
{{main|Sonic Forces}}
Sonic Forces, a [[2017]] video game featuring customizable Sonic characters, was released on November 7, 2017, for [[PS4]], [[Xbox One]], and [[Nintendo Switch]]. Chris purchased multiple copies of the game but was disappointed by the limited customization options, which prevented him from creating a proper Sonichu avatar, leading him to request fan mods to play as Sonichu in the game.

===Film===
{{main|Sonic the Hedgehog (film)}}
The Sonic the Hedgehog movie, originally set for release in [[November 2019]] but delayed to [[February 2020]], faced heavy backlash for Sonic's initial design, leading to a redesign that improved the fan reception. Despite his initial complaints over the [[blue arms]] and character choices, Chris ultimately enjoyed the film, praising its story and character development.

===Sonic World fan game===
{{main|Sonic World}}

Chris became interested in the fan game ''Sonic World'', which allows modded characters, in [[October 2020]] and used a fanmade mod of Sonichu, recording soundbites for the character as well as for [[Magi-Chan]], [[Rosechu]], and [[Chris Chan Sonichu]].

===Sonic X Shadow Generations===
{{main|Sonic X Shadow Generations}}
Sonic X Shadow Generations, a [[2024]] remaster of the original Sonic Generations released in [[2011]] with a side story focusing on the Character Shadow the Hedgehog, was released on 25 [[October 2024]], for [[PS4]], [[PS5]], [[Xbox One]], Xbox Series X/S, [[Nintendo Switch]], and [[PC]]. Chris played the game on 23 [[November 2024]] on a livestream.

===Sonic '06===
{{w|Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)|Sonic '06}} released in [[2006]], and is infamously considered the worst Sonic game. Chris says he [[Chris and money|preordered the game before he even bought]] the [[PS3]] in [[2006]] (claiming to have gotten his PS3 "a week or two later"<ref>[[Jesus Christ Chan - Sonic 2006 Speed Playthrough]]</ref>). He has also mentioned playing the [[Xbox 360]] version. On 14 [[March 2025]], Chris booted up his PS3 to play the game on a livestream, trying to "speed run" it.<ref>[[Jesus Christ Chan - Sonic 2006 Speed Run]]</ref> However, Chris did not even finish Sonic's Story after almost three hours, and still did not complete it in a second stream that also lasted 3 hours on 29 [[March 2025]]. Notably, a part of [[Chaos Crystal Control]] involves time traveling back to 2006, for whatever reason.

===Sonic Racing: Crossworlds===
{{w|Sonic Racing: Crossworlds}} is a 2025 kart racing video game spinoff. It features a variety of characters and is one of the most popular video game releases from 2025. Chris participated in the four day open network test demo before its release.<ref>[[August 2025 social media posts#Sonic Racing: Crossworlds beta demo bug]]</ref><ref>[[September 2025 social media posts#Hey. impostor.]]</ref> He became an active player after its release, and has a car in the video game which he designed to look like Sonichu, and another car designed to look like the [[The Autobots of Cwcville|post 2018 version of Son-Chu]].<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#Sonic Racing: Crossworlds realization]]</ref>

==References to Chris==
===Sega Acknowledges Sonichu===
On 13 [[January 2012]], a [[Sega]] of America employee jokingly called a Super Sonic plush toy "Sonichu" in a "Free Stuff Friday" video. Jump to 3:50 in the linked video.

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Chris saw the video and commented.<ref>[[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#SEGA's Free Stuff Friday-January 13, 2012]]</ref> He then filed it under a YouTube playlist titled "Trolling Stupid."

{{quotebox|I do not find that commentary funny at all. In fact, I feel pissed off to be ridiculed soo lightly.}}

===Sonic mentions Sonichu on Twitter===
On 10 [[July 2015]], the official Sonic the Hedgehog Twitter account joked about Sonichu and blarms.<ref>https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/608718532529037312</ref>

A fan asked:
{{quoteboxred|Will I be able to play as Sonichu in Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice?}}

Sonic replied:
{{quoteboxgreen|Maybe, but only if we give Sonichu blue arms, three scarves, and ultimately just redesign him as Big the Cat.}}

A troll tried to notify Chris that Sonic was mocking him, but he believed it to be fake:<ref>[[:File:Cwc dumb flake - credit to Pickle Inspector.png]]</ref>

{{quotebox|That Is Fake, you dumb Flake.}}

Chris should have known it is not a fake, since he follows the account on Twitter.

Two later tweets also made minor mentions of Sonichu.

The first was on 9 March 2016, in which [[Dr. Eggman]] attempts to cancel getting "Big the Cat facts" on his phone by texting his favorite Sonic character, but is told that his favorite Sonic character is Sonichu.<ref>https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/707622466391117824</ref>

The second was on 29 April 2016, where "Sonichu" is one possible name on a "What's Your Sonic Name" chart making fun of the "original characters" in the Sonic fandom.<ref>https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/726090715885756416</ref>

===Sonic Boom pickle joke===
In "Double Doomsday", episode 7 of ''Sonic Boom'', Sonic orders a hamburger with no pickles and instead is served with extra pickles.

In Chris's [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!]] Facebook group, he posted about the pickle joke and took a "neutral" stance on it.
{{quotebox|10 December 2014

I know well I said not to talk about the show much, or post any spoilers. This time, though, I am willing to make this exception.

I have heard that in the show, Sonic ordered a sandwich with no pickles, but is served the sandwich with extra pickles. I feel neutral/indifferent about the joke. But my friend read a bit into it as a possible reference to myself, as well as a possible middle finger gesture to me from SEGA. Being Serious and Sincere, no sarcasm or jokes: what do y'all think/feel from this lame pickled vegetable joke? Answer in the comments of this post.}}

===''Sonic Boom'' parody===
[[File:Mark as cwc - credit to John Furrman.jpeg|thumb|250px]]
Episode 57 of the ''Sonic Boom'' animated series, titled "The Biggest Fan", parodies the Sonic fanbase. Several references, whether intentionally or coincidentally, match with Classic Chris;

*The fan in question, [https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Mark_the_Tapir Mark the Tapir,] is an [[Obesity|overweight]] nerd with [[Pedo-Glasses|large glasses]], [[Hair|short greasy hair with a spiked fringe]] and [[Medallions|a big circular Sonic patch]] on [[Chris and fashion#Trademark clothing|a button-up collar shirt]].
*Mark the Tapir has an [[Chris and socialization|awkward lack of social awareness]], similar to Chris's [[autism]], and is especially reminiscent of his clingy, stalker-ish behaviour around [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] and [[Catherine]].
*At the 2:43 mark, Mark orders [[April 16 Fetish Vids#1 Fanta: Semen Flavor|orange soda]].
*At the 5:15 mark, there is a reference to [[Sonic Boom Protests|blue arms]], complete with [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:ChrisSonicBoomArms.jpg matching fanart.]
*Mark attempting vehicular manslaughter on Sonic, like [[28 October 2011|Chris did with]] [[Michael Snyder]].
*Mark lives in a [[14 Branchland Court|dilapidated shack]].
*"Collectible plates" are mentioned, possibly made out of [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|Crayola fucking Model Magic]].
*Sonic has a Tails hat placed on him at one point, making him look like he has [[Sonichu (character)|big yellow ears]].
*Mark is shown to be into writing [[Chris and writing|awkwardly worded]] [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|NSFW fan fiction]] of Sonic, with Sonic picking one out and sarcastically mentioning [[Sonichu 8|"SonAmy! Ooh, spicy!"]].

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The episode aired on 10 December 2016. Three days later, Chris viewed the episode and saw "No resemblance" to himself in Mark:<ref>[[December 2016 Facebook posts#Sonic Boom parody]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Also, after hearing of Sonic Boom's "The Biggest Fan" episode, I found and watched it. Despite the segment on the arm colour in the portrait and the common fat, glasses, and hair on Mark the Tapir, and there was no mention or hidden cameo of Sonichu anywhere in the episode; I personally see No resemblance of myself in the Mark character. Especially in how far he took it to keep being able to be near Sonic; [[Chris and reality|I am not mental or crazy like that at all.]]}}

The episode's writers, Doug Liebilch and Bill Freiberger, responded to questions on Twitter about the episode. Liebilch said that [https://twitter.com/DougLieblich/status/808080337859293184 "He's not based on anyone specific. Just an obsessive fan character."] Freiberger also denied that Mark was based on Chris, and unlike Liebilch, he knows who Chris is, saying [https://twitter.com/BillFreiberger/status/809087510156410880 "Mark is 100% NOT based on CWC. He is a general fan type. We've done many blue arm jokes in the series. Not a clue."]

===Sonic Boom writer jokes about Sonichu===

On 10 January 2018, Alan Denton, a writer for ''Sonic Boom'', joked about Sonichu on Twitter.

{{quoteboxgreen|I love when people are inspired enough by something to write their own fan fiction. Totally support that. But (and I can't believe I have to say this...), if you then insist to the creators that your made-up story become canon, you've gone too far.<ref>https://twitter.com/AlanTheWriter/status/951193526917738496</ref>

(Whispers silently to my folder of Sonichu fanfic: "But not you. You'll all be canon one day...")<ref>https://twitter.com/AlanTheWriter/status/951193919483666432</ref>}}

Denton was a writer on the ''Double Doomsday'' and story editor on ''The Biggest Fan'' episodes of the show.

===IGN Movie Quiz===
On 7 [[February 2020]], IGN uploaded a video in which James Marsden, the actor playing Tom Wachowski in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog movie]], is quizzed on his knowledge on Sonic trivias - one question being if Sonichu is an unlockable character in Sonic Forces<ref>[[Chris in the media#IGN]]</ref>. Marsden replies, "What is a Sonichu?"

==Role in the comics==
Sonic first appears in [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] as Super Sonic battling the [[Perfect Chaos Monster]] in [[Station Square]]. Whilst battling him, a [[Pikachu]] comes to fight Perfect Chaos and is tackled by Sonic. The power of the Chaos Emeralds mutates said Pikachu into [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], who then defeats Perfect Chaos.

[[Sonichu 1|In the following issue]], he crashes into Sonichu again. After recognizing each other, they team up in order to rescue [[Rosechu]] from the clutches of [[Black Sonichu]]. This would later be retconned into Sonic having been [[Silvana]] in disguise.

Other than being the catalyst for the creation of Sonichu and teaming up with him in the second issue, Sonic serves no other purpose. He disappears after issue #1, never mentioned again until [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], where [[Robbie]] sickeningly refers to him as "Uncle Sonic."

Sonic returns in the "Clip Show" episodes of [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] and [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], where Sonichu and he discuss the past. He is shocked by the new [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Comic Chris]], now a [[tomgirl]].

===Tails's lack of a role in the comics===
[[File:Sonic Rebuilt deleted extra.jpg|thumb|150px|Tails in a deleted scene from [[Sonic Rebuilt]].]]
'''Miles "Tails" Prower''' is Sonic's sidekick, and has been in the franchise since [[Wikipedia:Sonic The Hedgehog 2|''Sonic the Hedgehog II'']] was released in [[1992]] for the [[Wikipedia:Sega Genesis|Sega Genesis]]. He has been featured in almost every form of ''Sonic''-related media such as cartoons, anime and comic books. As such, many have been perplexed on why neither he nor an idiot ripoff (likely named "Prowerlo Sonichu") has had a role in ''Sonichu''. An orange character who's probably meant to be Tails can be seen in the background of a [[Scrapbook of Fail|scrapbook]] [[:Image:063-SonicVsSonichu.jpg|drawing of Sonic and Sonichu]], and he is also briefly featured in a fancomic [[PandaHalo]] made and Chris added to [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], but other than that neither Tails nor a recolor of him appear in the ''Sonichu'' universe.
[[Image:0860-Cwcville9.JPG|thumb|left|200px|A custom [[Lego]] version of Tails.]]
Chris has refused to include Tails in his comics, despite ripping off Knuckles and Shadow and featuring an [[Transformers|Autobot]] named "[[Prower]]." Chris said that "I just did not feel need for a Tails-like Character in the stories. I disagree with all the rumors against Tails; if you read the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (comics)|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' Comic Book Series]] from Archie Comics, Tails [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|gets a Girlfriend]]."<ref>[[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails?|Mailbag #21]]</ref> He later claims that he "did not feel it appropriate for Tails to be in my comic."<ref>[[Mailbag 38#Chris is an expert matchmaker|Mailbag #38]]</ref> Despite this, Chris ''did'' create two Tails-like [[Pokémon]] named Evails and Supreon (an evolution of the former), though they only appeared on the [[Wall of Originals]]. Tails also gets a mention in "[[Sonichu & Rosechu… The Genesis of the Lovehogs]]", a Sonichu short story which predates the comics.

[[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] might be the closest a Sonichu character has ever come to ripping off Tails. While they're nothing alike in their looks or personalities ([[Chris and writing#Characterization|or lack thereof]], in the case of the former), Wild does state in [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]] that he can use his tail as a propeller, an ability also shared by Tails.
[[File:012-CWCsNP9.jpg|thumb|Tails in the [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|homemade ''Nintendo Power'' magazine]]]]
Chris drew a panel of Tails for the fan animation [[Sonic Rebuilt]] he collaborated on. In it, Tails meets Sonichu, and asks, "What's a Sonikku?!" The particular scene went unused in the final cut which was released March 2020, although Chris posted the panel on his Twitter that month.<ref>[[March 2020 social media posts#Sonic Rebuilt]]</ref>

[[File:A Tetrasecond Talk at Times Square- Chaos Crystal Control Act 4 Art Series.jpg|thumb|200px|Tailsko ([[genderbent]] version of Tails) in [[Chaos Crystal Control]]]]
As of [[October 2020]], Chris believes that a genderbent version of Tails, a fanmade character named Tailsko, exists in a genderbent dimension.<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#Genderbent Dimension]]</ref>

On Christmas Day 2020, while trying to prod [[Kyle]] into uncovering the frequency needed to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]], Chris informed him that Tails was attempting to communicate, and asked Kyle if he was seeing or hearing Tails. Kyle declined to be pulled into the role-play.<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#Christmas and Merge Talk]]</ref>

In the [[Chaos Crystal Control]] comic which was partially released [[October 2023]], Chris included Tailsko (misspelled as "Tailsuko") in a group shot of alt-dimension Sonichus and [[Magi-Chan]]s. However, Chris had initially forgotten to draw Tailsko at all, so awkwardly drew her standing adjacent to the group.

=== Amy Rose ===
'''Amy Rose''' is a ''Sonic'' character created in [[1993]], making her first appearance in the game [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog CD|''Sonic CD'']]. She serves as the self-proclaimed love interest of Sonic the Hedgehog. In fleshing out the world of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', Chris quickly ripped off the character to serve as Sonichu's girlfriend, [[Rosechu]].

[[Image:Chris-chan Traced.JPG|thumb|Yep, definitely different.]]

While Chris at least made an effort to disguise Sonichu's source material by re-colouring him, Rosechu is nearly indistinguishable from Amy Rose. Like Amy Rose, Rosechu has green eyes and pink fur, with the spines on her head arranged to resemble a bob haircut. Both wear red boots and dresses, with Rosechu's having a blue trim in a slightly different pattern to Amy's white trim. Visually, the only obvious distinction between the two is the [[Raichu]] tail Rosechu has, and the spines on the center of Amy's forehead, which Rosechu lacks. It should be noted, however, that when Chris draws Amy, he [[Chris and art|fails]] to draw the forehead spines properly, resulting in an even closer resemblance.

{{quote|MAJOR Differences between Amy and Rosie; Amy never had spikes on her back, the clothes are Different; Rosie’s Headband is White, not Red, and Rosechu has a modern girl kinda attitude, and lucky for her, Sonichu RARELY runs away from her charms. And, of course, she has her Electric-Type Attacks to boot.|Christian Weston Chandler, damning himself with [[The Sonichu Chronicles|faint praise]].}}

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 6, Page 14.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Even Chris is bored with this sexist gabfest.]]

As Chris points out, the only real difference between Amy and Rosechu in terms of characterization is that while Amy's crush on Sonic is unreciprocated, Sonichu has been sucking face with Rosechu since the [[Sonichu 0|day they met]]. Obviously, this hardly marks a difference in their ''personality''. If anything, it says more about the differences between Sonic and Sonichu, since they respond differently to affection. Since she's already made her romantic conquest, Rosechu is free to pursue the life of a "modern girl", which apparently means [[Sonichu 8|raping people's faces]] and producing [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|terrifying amateur pornography]].

[[Image: Rosechu-AmyRose1.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Sheesh, they even think the same words.]]

As an epilogue to the Sonichu/Sonic team-up in [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]], Rosechu happens to meet Amy in [[CWCville Mall]]. With no hint of irony, the two remark upon how similar they are, and engage in a [[Women's rights|vapid conversation about shopping and relationships]].
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=== Shadow the Hedgehog ===
[[File:Shadow Chaos Control Cropped.png|thumb|150px|One of the few times Chris has drawn him.]]
Introduced in [[2001]]'s [[Wikipedia:Sonic Adventure 2|''Sonic Adventure 2'']], '''Shadow the Hedgehog''' is an anti-hero version of Sonic the Hedgehog. As he quickly became a fan favorite among the ''Sonic'' family of characters and the trolls, it was only a matter of time before [[Chris]] decided to "create" another [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

Unlike Rosechu, who is virtually identical to Amy, [[Blake|Black Sonichu]] (later retconned to Blake) only resembles Shadow in his color scheme and tenuous allegiance to the forces of evil. While Shadow is primarily motivated by his desire to learn about his mysterious past, Black Sonichu was informed of every aspect of his creation by [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Naitsirhc]]. Most notably, while Shadow is intended to be a dark and edgy character, Black Sonichu is basically just a punk, committing blatant mischief for very transparent motives.

While this might seem to make Black Sonichu halfway original, it really only means that he's a poor copy of Sonichu instead of a slightly less poor copy of Shadow. Blake's only real claim to individuality was that he acted like an asshole; since falling for [[Bubbles Rosechu|Bubbles]] in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]], he doesn't even have that going for him.

Shadow makes one appearance in the ''Sonichu'' canon when he shows up as a drummer for [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]], but is later replaced by [[Punchy Sonichu]]. A Shadow doll was also held by Chris in [[DivineTrial]], substituting for Clyde Cash. The same Shadow doll is in the background in [[For Julie's Eyes Only]]. Chris claims that Shadow is currently living in C-197.

==Other character mentions==
===Sally Acorn===
[[File:Sally Acorn.png|thumb|100px|The subject of many Lowcows obsession.]]
'''Sally Acorn''' is a red-haired, brown-furred chipmunk who appears as a major character in the Sonic the Hedgehog animated series that originally aired from [[1993]] to [[1994]] and later in the Archie Comics series, where she is depicted as both Sonic’s closest friend and his [[Love Quest|love interest]]. On [[February 2021]], Chris shared that he had a wet dream involving Sally, in which he "almost had sex" with the character. Upon waking, he reported experiencing a strong sense of sexual frustration and repression stemming from the dream.<ref>[[:File:ThePlace1stLayer 02Feb21 - almost sex dream.png]]</ref>

===Christopher Thorndyke===
'''Christopher Thorndyke''', a twelve-year-old boy, is the main human protagonist in the Sonic X [[anime]]. In an [[April 2021]] conversation with [[MKRNightVee]], Chris shared that he once had a wet dream in which he encountered an adult version of Thorndyke. He described this older version of Thorndyke as "handsome". Later in the dream, Thorndyke was given the choice between having sex with Chris as a human or as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]]. Chris woke up before any sex could occur.<ref>[[MKR DMs#Chris Thorndyke sex dream]]</ref>

==Plagiarism==
To put it bluntly, Sonichu is [[Chris and copyright|copyright infringement.]] and is clearly derivative of not just Sonic the Hedgehog but other franchises such as [[Pokémon]], [[Yu-Gi-Oh!]] and [[My Little Pony]]. Chris tries his best to work around this fact by claiming that Sonichu is a [[parody]], but Chris clearly does not understand what the word means, as Sonichu does not derive humor or provide any satirical commentary on any of the original franchises.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:Modern-classic.png|Sonic with his 90's counterpart.
Image:001-Christophers1stSonic.jpg|Chris drew this as a child. Notice the [[Sonic Boom Protests|blue-colored arms]].
Image:075-SonicAndSonichu.jpg|He's a street-smart cop with twenty years on the force! He's a rookie straight out of academy! Together, they fight crime!
Image:063-SonicVsSonichu.jpg|Because we all like to see our favorite heroes crossover one day! [[Sonichu 1|Oh, wait!]]
Image:0065-Sonic.jpg|Sonic looking an awful lot like Chris.
Image:326-SonicJamCard.jpg|...I thought the answer was "Aim for the [[Sonichu 4|sourdough region]]"?
Image:327-SonicJamCardBck.jpg|[[6 June 2010|Yep]], [[Don't Mess With Me|that]] [[Sonichu 10|most]] [[Autism Tutorial Extra|certainly]] [[28 October 2011|taught]] [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|him]].
Image:445-SonicTotem.JPG|0-0 [http://www.geekologie.com/2009/12/um_yeah_maybe_get_somebody_els.php Geekologie Reader] does not approve of Chris's artwork.
Image:447-CWCSonicPlate.JPG|Sonic the Blowfish.
Image:468-SonicCup.JPG|Chris makes his own [[Jimmy Hill|unlicensed ''Sonic'' merchandise]].
Image:469-SonicCupSide.JPG|Hello, lawsuit.
Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|Chris was so excited, he produced [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS]].
Image:0077-SonicDoll.jpg|Chris still has this doll and it has seen [[For Julie's Eyes Only|horrible things]].
File:Killing_sonic_iterations_SB.jpg|Systematic murder of Sonic's iterations.
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
* [[Doctor Robotnik]]
* [[Chris and copyright]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]] on [[Wikipedia]]

{{Hedgehog Boys}}
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[[Category:Things Chris has ripped off]]
[[Category:Video Games]]
[[Category:Christian and the Hedgehog Boys band members]]

January 2026

2026-01-06T02:01:02Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Notable events */

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[[File:Chris in January 2026.jpg|thumb|Chris in January.]]
'''January''' [[2026]].

==Notable events==
* '''1 January''' - Chris publishes [[DC SAV Outtake Movie]] and its subtitled version.
* '''2 January''' - Chris publishes [[Can You Merge?]].
* '''3 January'''
** Chris publishes [[Crackder First Outtake Movie]] and its subtitled version.
** Chris uploaded a trailer for the two-hour "full movie" compilation he will release on the 5th.
* '''5 January'''
** Chris publishes [[DC Punislav Outtake Movie Plus GE Defense Part 1]] and its subtitled version.
** Chris plans to premiere a two-hour long "full movie" compilation of his ''[[Transformers]]'' videos and its subtitled version. The subtitled version premiers at 2:30 PM as planned, while the one without subtitles premieres at 5:00 PM.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#Tentative YouTube premiere event]]</ref><ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#TLUM movie premiere date]]</ref><ref>[[December 2025 social media posts#Friendship]]</ref> He also plans to record a commentary video over it, and possibly appear in the premiere's live chat.

==Activity==
===Chats===
*None yet.

===Posts===
*[[January 2026 social media posts]]

===Sightings===
*None yet.

===Videos===
*[[DC SAV Outtake Movie Plus Subtitles]]
*[[DC SAV Outtake Movie]]
*[[Can You Merge?]]
*[[Crackder First Outtake Movie Plus Subtitles]]
*[[Crackder First Outtake Movie]]
*[[Transformers Legacy United Merged Movie Son-Chu Trailer]]
*[[DC Punislav Outtake Movie Plus GE Defense Part 1 Subtitled]]
*[[DC Punislav Outtake Movie Plus GE Defense Part 1]]
*[[Jesus Christ Chan - Introducing TLUM Movie]]
*[[Transformers Legacy United Merged Full Compilation Movie Plus, Subtitled, aka Cwclight Review Movies]]
*[[Jesus Christ Chan - Post TLUM Movie Premiere Q&A]]
*[[Transformers Legacy United Merged Full Compilation Movie Plus, aka Cwclight Review Movies]]

{{References}}
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Michael Snyder

2026-01-02T00:09:17Z

Dodo Conservative: /* TheRcholic */

{{Imposter}}
{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}



{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment from an account posing as him claims that he is not. However, there is no way for a layperson to confirm.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point." Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, "I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk."<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account which trolls used to pose as Michael Snyder, in order to instigate further drama between him and Chris by commenting on some of the latter's videos. The account name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. Given the high level of unprofessional behavior by "Michael", it is nigh certain that this was an impersonator on the phone. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior for a supposed manager.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

2025-12-20T10:04:36Z

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{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}



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| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
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| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
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'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment from an account posing as him claims that he is not. However, there is no way for a layperson to confirm.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point." Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, "I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk."<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
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==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account which trolls used to pose as Michael Snyder, in order to instigate further drama between him and Chris by commenting on some of the latter's videos. The account name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that, allegedly, was to take place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. Given the high level of unprofessional behavior by "Michael", it is nigh certain that this was an impersonator on the phone. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Chris and reality

2025-12-20T10:02:33Z

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{{quote|You can only escape in your mental depths and recluse for so long before you are pulled back to reality, and too many things leave you feeling like you get little peace at home.|Chris, [[December 2016]], in a rare moment of self-awareness on his habit of escapism.<ref name=rare>[[December 2016 Facebook posts#State of CWC's life]]</ref>}}
[[File:30yrslater.jpg|thumb|250px|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
[[File:Ideaguy poster.jpg|thumb|right|250px|thumb|...for real.]]

'''Reality''' is a concept that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] desperately tries to avoid acknowledging, instead retreating to the comfort of his imaginary world and hoping that reality will eventually bend to his whims. [[Autism|Autistic people]] tend to struggle distinguishing between reality and fantasy, but most make an effort to reduce the impact on their lives. Chris, on the other hand, embraces his realm of fantasy and '''delusions''', especially as escapism from [[stress]], life responsibilities, and his bleak future, trapping himself in a feedback loop whereby his real-world life and issues are further neglected while his devotion to his fantasies gets stronger.

Notably, Chris believes that [[CWCville]] and his [[imaginary friends]] are real: Chris has been spotted conversing, interacting, and [[BronyCon 2017#Dancing with Magi-Chan|dancing]] with them on many occasions, and even believes that he is [[Polyamorous marriage|married]] to imaginary people. Chris also holds many delusions of grandeur, from believing he has the power to curse people,<ref>According to [[Jackie Chat 5]] and [[Jackie E-mails 16]], Chris wrote that Sonichu was in Mary Lee Walsh’s office with him: he then pretended to be Sonichu himself and delivered a lecture, before using the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] attack.</ref> to thinking he has [[PsychicPowers|psychic powers]], and even believing he is a [[CPU Blue Heart|goddess]] with the power to unite entire [[dimensions]] — and that this [[Dimensional Merge]] would make him rich and bring his fictional characters, and those of others, to life.

Chris's perception of reality has been on a downward spiral for most of his life, due to a lifetime of being coddled by his parents. Following the death of his [[father]] in 2011, and amid the increasing infirmity of his [[mother]], Chris was forced into shouldering more responsibilities that he was mentally ill-equipped to bear, and consequently, he invested more heavily in magical beliefs as solutions to the problems presented by reality. In 2017, the [[Idea Guys]], trolls who utilized role-playing as Chris's imaginary friends, further exacerbated Chris's grasp of reality, giving validation to his fantasies and encouraging him to stay rooted in his fantasy world — a trend continued at present-day by waves of [[enablers]].

Chris maintains his beliefs even in the face of mental health professionals — for nine months between summer 2018 and spring 2019, he was required to see a psychiatrist and therapy group at [[Region Ten]] and told them of his beliefs on his imaginary friends and multiple dimensions, to which their reaction was to simply hand-wave him through their program.

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== Causes of Chris’s poor grip on reality ==

[[File:I'm Done Adulting T-shirt.png|thumb|200px|Chris wearing his "[[Chris and fashion|I'm Done Adulting]]" T-shirt while begging for money and being surrounded by toys in his [[Patreon announcement]]. (You can't be finished with something that never started.)]]

===Parental enabling===
Although autism is one major factor, [[Borb|his parents]] contributed a lot towards Chris's warped perception of anyone or anything that antagonizes him: Bob and Barbara regularly fed Chris conciliatory platitudes about how he was mistreated out of jealousy, and that "special rules" exist for the benefit of autistic people. The platitudes cemented Chris's [[Chris and his Ego|all-pervasive sense of entitlement]], as well as his indiscriminate belief that [[Greene County Conspiracy|anything bad that happened to him was a conspiracy]], whether or not it was caused by his [[slow-in-the-minds|stupidity]] or [[Chris and negotiation|stubbornness]].

===Psychological problems===

The only known formal diagnoses of Chris are [[autism]], dating from when he was five or six years old, and [[transgender|gender dysphoria]], officially diagnosed in 2016. However, his behavior in adulthood suggests he has undiagnosed issues.

Chris exhibits signs of {{W|maladaptive daydreaming}}, a psychiatric disorder comprised of vivid [[daydreams]] and excessive fantasies that can interfere with socializing or even replace it altogether. This behavior is observed in Chris with his [[imaginary friends]] and [[CWCville]], the [[Dimensional Merge]], and especially the [[polyamorous marriage]]. Maladaptive Daydreaming is also associated with pacing and musical stimulation. Eyewitness accounts of Chris such as [[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer]] mention these behaviors in him. Chris also stated that music from his phone is his method for [[meditation]].<ref>[[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2]]</ref>

{{w|Peter Pan syndrome}} is an informal pop psychology "condition" of being immature and refusing to grow up and accept adult responsibilities (like Peter Pan in Neverland). Chris has demonstrated this with his refusal to seek [[work]] or at least budget his SSDI, instead [[beg]]ging for money or ignoring his [[debt]] payments to afford more toys. An [[Debt hearing (eyewitness account)|eyewitness to one of Chris's debt hearings]] noted that Chris was "trying hard to revert to childhood", based on how he made childish noises during his time in the courtroom and talked back to his mother in a childlike voice. The Dimensional Merge represents Chris's ultimate desire to hide from adult responsibilities, as he believes it will grant his wildest power fantasies and enable him to continue living like a child. Chris's devotion to rejecting adult life has warped his perception of reality, as he spends all of his free time playing make-believe as if it were a religion.

====Does Chris have schizophrenia or a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder?====
Probably not.

A common theory since the Dimensional Merge saga unfolded is that Chris may have schizophrenia, based on his rantings about his imaginary world seeming as if he cannot distinguish between reality and fantasy. However, a closer look at Chris's ramblings shows that he's capable of discerning the difference, but couches it in the belief of different [[dimensions]] to preserve his escapist fantasies. Unlike a schizophrenic, Chris will distinguish between reality (or as he calls it, [[1218]]) and his fantasy domain (named [[C-197]]).

{{quote|Damn Dimension 1218’s “Reality” Limits and Shit!!!|Chris's reaction when reality's dimension and his fantasy dimension did not merge as predicted,<ref>[[January 2019 social media posts]]</ref> a prime example of him being able to differentiate reality from his escapist fantasies.}}

{{quote|though not fully doable on the 1218 side of the Dimensional Curtain yet, [I am] able to draw up a water-to-wine conversion and vice-versa.|Chris<ref>[[Reddit]]</ref> showing he is aware he doesn't have super-powers in reality.}}

Also unlike a schizophrenic, Chris's fantasies do not involve paranoia or hallucinations, and they are entirely self-serving. While Chris has made statements implying he is hallucinating, such as when he insists he can see or interact with his [[imaginary friends]], he often omits that he uses techniques such as "[[meditation]]" or "astral projection" (read: simple imagination), another indicator that his issue is Maladaptive Daydreaming. While Chris's reactions to the Idea Guys' brainwashing can seem like paranoid delusions (i.e., believing that laypeople can blow up the moon), they are better explained by his gullibility.

{{quote|I’ve had to commute to here, Dimension C-197, via astral projection [...] The tough part is having to leave my body behind in 1218. [...] Oh, but very soon, I shall finally, finally, be able to bring mys--body here to C-197.|Chris giving a rare explanation on how he delves into his fantasy world.<ref>[[A Moment With Dr Wolf Chris Chan and Greater Struggles]]</ref>}}

While Chris does on the surface exhibit some "negative symptoms" of schizophrenia, including asociality, an often-flat affect, and avolition, these are all better explained by his [[autism]], much like his [[ego]]centrism and mania-like states of anxious rage.

Chris's behavior and beliefs align at least somewhat with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder Schizotypal personality disorder], which is thought to exist on a spectrum with Schizophrenia. He arguably demonstrates all nine diagnostic criteria in the DSM-5:

*ideas of reference (believing that [[COVID-19|certain]] generally innocuous [[Dimensional Merge|events ]] hold special meaning or messages for oneself)
*[[CPU Blue Heart|strange beliefs]] or [[magical thinking]] that [[Mary Lee Walsh|influences behavior]] and is inconsistent with [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|subcultural norms]]
*[[Imaginary friends|abnormal perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions]]
*[[Conspiracy theories|suspiciousness]] or [[Greene County Conspiracy|paranoid ideation]]
*[[Saga|strange behavior]] or [[Chris and fashion|appearance]]
*excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self, (whilst Chris was largely comfortable around his paid-for [[Gal-Pal|companions]] during [[Manchester High School|High School]], his interaction with both the [[Love Quest|fairer sex]] and [[Man in the pickle suit|pickle bearers]] have since been riddled with [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|paranoid fears]] and [[Manajerks|delusions]])
*strange thinking and speech
*lack of close friends
*inappropriate or constricted affect

However, while these symptoms are all present in Chris, several can be almost exclusively attributed to his [[autism]], such as his social anxiety, lack of close friends, constricted affect, strange behavior, tendency to misinterpret people, mania-like states, gullibility, and egocentric philosophy. Some studies also link ideas of reference to autism. Also, Schizotypal individuals generally do not develop the [[Messiah complex|grandiose delusions]] he has developed over the years, and they generally are too reclusive to air their delusions.

In fact, many of these traits are consistent with autism, ADHD, bipolar, psychosis, schizophrenia, and other personality disorders.

Therefore, further digging than internet armchair analysis is required, and a professional trained to differentiate autistic symptoms from psychotic ones could further elaborate. Chris, of course, will likely never receive this in-depth evaluation, thanks to his [[Chris and mental healthcare|adamant refusal]] to seek out help voluntarily or benefit from professional help that is forced upon him. Again, he arguably does not demonstrate much paranoia outside gullibility, and does not appear to truly hallucinate his imaginary friends.

===Lack of grounding in the real world===
[[File:Artist_Depiction_of_Chris_mind.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction of Chris's imaginary world after he passes away and it dies with him.]]
Chris's lack of purpose, combined with his enormous [[ego]], further fuels his disconnection from reality, compelling him to instead seek out the purpose with make-believe, such as being the mayor of [[CWCville]] and being the goddess [[CPU Blue Heart]].

Since the government provides for him with the [[monthly tugboat]] — along with money from financial [[enablers]] — and his parents always provide a roof over his head, Chris has never had an incentive to [[Chris and work|get a job]]. Without the structure that a job, even a minimum-waged or volunteer position, would impart to him, Chris is instead free to wallow in his fantasies.

Chris's hobbies are mostly limited to [[Netflix]], [[video games]], [[YouTube]], and [[Twitter]]. Despite supposedly having a calling for art, he rarely draws like he used to. While video games can stimulate the brain, his hobbies leave little room for creativity or substantial self-improvement. Even a simple hobby like photography would be a big step up from Chris's current avocations.

Chris rarely leaves his [[room]], instead preferring to [[daydream]] for "three to six hours per day<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Barb ain't dead yet + Magi-Chan's likes]]</ref>". When he does socialize, it is mainly on his terms, role-playing with enablers who keep him invested in his fantasies or appearing at conventions with [[fans]] who treat him as a celebrity.

{{quote|As for what I do while awake, on the recent, I get up, take my meds, meditate while playing [[Tetris 99]] to at least take on the daily tasks for the game. Most days, I go out on errand or simple walking [...] Anyway, during the time at home, I tend to binge a show, do some drawing or creative, work (namely the [[TSSSF]] cards and the comic pages).|Chris describing his day-to-day life.<ref>[[Discord]]</ref>}}

===Escapist fantasies===
[[File:Dimensional Merge math on McDonalds napkin.jpg|thumb|200|Chris will sit down and [[Chris and science#Mathematics|calculate]] the number of casualties in his [[Dimensional Merge]] fantasy but won't write up a budget plan for paying off his [[debt]].]]

Chris embraces his fantasies as escapism, overindulging in them to the point that his interest in them has largely eclipsed his real-world life. When his childlike lifestyle conflicts with the responsibilities associated with being an adult, Chris retreats to his fantasy realm to cope.

This habit became especially prevalent in the years following the September 2011 death of his [[father]], after which Chris found himself thrust into the world of adult responsibilities as he had to do tasks such as pay his bills and help take care of his [[mother]] and pets. Chris was 29 years old when his father passed away; while most people would be accustomed to dealing with responsibilities by that age, Chris was unprepared for the burden since his parents had sheltered him up to that point for example until he died, his father had managed Chris's bank account due to his fiscal irresponsibility.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 8]]</ref>

{{quote|When my father was alive, I had more freedom; now that he has passed, I lost a lot of freedom and remain to take after the tasks he had left behind. [...] You can only escape in your mental depths and recluse for so long before you are pulled back to reality, and too many things leave you feeling like you get little peace at home.|Chris.<ref name=rare></ref>}}

Chris occasionally whined on social media about his position in having to help take care of his mother and pets — his statements gradually revealing more of his retreat into escapist fantasies.

In September 2012, he complained:

{{quotebox|Everybody else gets to go out for a fun and good time; I am stuck care-giving my mother and our [[dogs]], and it is Very Stressful on me.<ref>[[September 2012 Facebook posts#I Require Friends]]</ref>}}

In January 2013, Chris was hoping for a [[sweetheart]] to rescue him from his life:

{{quotebox|I need my Sweetheart-to-be to make me happy; my heart hurts literally from my depression and loneliness. Serving my mother is not a final purpose to me, and my social life is very slim. I feel like I lack direction in my life as well.<ref>[[January 2013 Facebook posts#Chris needs direction]]</ref>}}

By summer 2017, Chris was immersed in his escapism to the point that he was [[dancing with Magi-Chan]], one of his [[imaginary friends]], at [[BronyCon]]. In October of that year, from his list of reasons for refusing to get a job, half involved his devotion to his fantasies:

{{quotebox|I Have a TON and S***-Load of Responsibilities and Worries here at home care-taking my mother, dogs, cats, and to my own passion of my [[Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon]] Family, my City of Cwcville, my own Only-Me Psychic Connection [[Imaginary friends|to my family and friends there]], in that dimension. So, I'll be darned if I Do Not already have enough on my plate<ref>[[Kiwi Farms#Posts]]</ref>}}

Chris's desire to be rescued from reality left him desperate for his fantasies to be validated, his mentality similar to people willing to join cults. This led to Chris being exploited by a number of trolls, with the most infamous being the [[Idea Guys]]. Chris would only continue to retreat further and further into this elaborate alternate reality he has constructed in his mind. While under arrest for [[Jail Saga|sexually assaulting his elderly mother]], Chris chose to ignore the seriousness of the situation he was in and gave a long spiel to the responding police officers about Sonichu, his status as a Supreme Goddess, and the Dimensional Merge. As Chris sat in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] awaiting legal proceedings, he has now chosen to believe that he is also the [[Jail_Letter_-_19_September_2021|reincarnation of Jesus Christ.]]

===Cult of the Idea Guys===
{{main|Idea Guys|Enablers|List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris}}
{{quote|I feel need to also thank them for adding more connection between our sister dimension and I|Chris on the Idea Guys, retaining his cultist mentality several months after they had been ousted.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1017879233119469568</ref>}}

[[File:IdeaGuyCwc News Media.PNG|thumb|200px|Chris fell for this fake news graphic made by the original Idea Guy as part of his plot to convince Chris he was providing information from [[CWCville]]'s dimension.]]

On 25 [[October 2017]], Joshua Wise, the first of a duo that would later be dubbed the Idea Guys, contacted Chris.<ref>Date given in [[Sonichu 13]].</ref> Initially as an experiment to gauge Chris's gullibility, Wise began a plot to manipulate Chris into believing that Wise had made it into [[CWCville]]'s dimension. Drawing from his experience in role-playing communities and borrowing lore from video game/anime series ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'', Wise crafted an elaborate narrative that included edited image graphics, doctored audio clips such as [[Red Forest]], and role-playing as Chris's [[imaginary friends]]. Chris, by this point in his life desperate for his fantasies to be validated, eagerly accepted Wise's claims.<ref name=IGQA>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>

The association between Wise and Chris morphed into cult leader and devout follower. Wise, taking advantage of Chris's desire for validation, brainwashed his beliefs on CWCville and his imaginary friends, such as by claiming CWCville to be [[Operation BARBarossa|occupied by Nazis]], that [[Rosechu]] is a transgender woman, and that Chris is [[Polyamorous marriage|married to imaginary friends]], with Chris accepting it as fact.

At some point, the second Idea Guy, Stephen Boyd, joined Wise. Together, the two exploited their influence over Chris and had him make false statements for blackmail purposes and conned Chris into giving them thousands of dollars under threats they would destroy CWCville and release the blackmail material if he failed to comply.<ref name=extortionists></ref> Their activities caught the attention of people in Chris's inner circle, who formed a group later termed the [[Guard Dogs]] to counteract the Idea Guys and remove them from power. However, even after the ousting, and though the Guard Dogs tried to encourage him to seek therapy at [[Region Ten]], Chris still retained most of the beliefs the Idea Guys had brainwashed into him over the six months they were in power. Guard Dog Marvin explained Chris's perspective:

{{quoteboxgreen|"Reality" is a malleable concept to Chris.

To Chris, that these losers were pretending to be imaginary characters doesn't mean they didn't unwittingly connect with their counterparts in the other dimension or whatever. So yeah, he thinks Wise and Boyd were assholes who stumbled upon some magic or some shit.

Chris is mostly mad about money first and being made to embarrass himself second.

In regards to why he still maintains a lot of their canon, it's because Chris is too invested in his imaginary world to give up on it so easily. I think after Wise and Boyd were outed, he felt really uncomfortable about retconning most of their changes. Because if he retcons the past six months, then fuck, why can't he retcon all of it? That would make him feel really uneasy about the possible reality of his imaginary world.

That reality is most important to him.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Why Chris Continued Believing Idea Guys Influence]]</ref>}}

The post-Idea Guys era ignited a wave of [[enablers]] who sought to use the Idea Guys' tactics to worm their way into Chris's life. For a few months, the Guard Dogs attempted to protect Chris by screening his messages for him. However, given Chris's refusal to address his psychological weaknesses and willingness to find others to play make-believe with, the enablers eventually broke past their defenses, leading to the Guard Dogs washing their hands of Chris. The [[Teen Troon Squad]] in fall 2018, [[MKRNightVee]] in winter 2019, [[Jacob Sockness]] in summer 2019, and a myriad of [[other enablers]] took turns role-playing with Chris and enabling his fantasies in exchange for his attention. In addition, using lore brute-forced into his head by the Idea Guys, Chris declared himself to be a goddess — [[CPU Blue Heart]] — and began to preach about the [[Dimensional Merge]], further intensifying the cult vibes of his beliefs.

==Consequences==
[[File:Discord3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The fictional superweapon Kadingir, as depicted in anime series ''Symphogear''. The Idea Guys used this image to con Chris into believing they had the capability to destroy the moon and CWCville.<ref>[[The Bad Beginning]]</ref>]]

Beyond making a fool of himself, Chris's poor grasp of reality has compelled him to self-harm, fall for con men exploiting his beliefs, and cause damage to his home.

===Self-harm===
{{w|Gender dysphoria|Late-onset gender dysphoria}} is a psychological disorder describing those who identify with another gender over their own, and can present with the desire to be rid of their primary sex characteristics and prefer those of the other gender. Like with everything else in life, Chris sought out [[magical thinking]] to treat his gender dysphoria.

In March 2016, he discovered [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]], a collection of music tracks on YouTube claiming to, among other things, magically grant larger breasts and transform a penis into a vagina. Chris's confirmation bias over his breasts increasing, crediting it to the mysticism instead of his {{w|gynecomastia}} and [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+|poor measuring of his chest]], led him to believe that the claims made by the channel were true.

He pursued the penis-vagina transformation and began to prod his taint while under the impression there was a hidden vagina there.<ref>[[Reddit#Can males be born with a hidden vagina (minus the uterus)? (3 July 2016)]]</ref> Though the Subliminal channel claimed the transformation would take six months, Chris eventually lost patience. In July 2016, he grabbed a knife and made a [[self-inflicted taint wound]] in an effort to free his vagina. Chris's devotion to the delusion was so potent that he initially resisted efforts by concerned fans to pressure him into going to the hospital, though he eventually wore down and admitted it was a wound and obeyed treatment instructions.

===Con artists===
While Chris has long been taken advantage of by trolls, the tactics and goals from the likes of the [[Idea Guys]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] surpass the typical catfishing-for-content.

The Idea Guys gradually built up a strong psychological hold over Chris by affirming his fantasies and playing along with them, to the point where Chris had full faith in anything they told him. They then used their influence to con Chris out of $6,000 by threatening to blow up [[CWCville]] with a moon laser if he failed to comply, manipulate him into punching his mother, and had him make videos [[Chris slaps himself|slapping himself in the face]] and shitting on the floor.<ref name=extortionists>[[The Chris-Chan Extortionists]]</ref> Things became even darker when the Idea Guys threatened to falsely report Chris as a [[Pedofork|pedophile]] to the FBI if he stopped supplying them with vast sums of money, consoles, and games, thus deepening the [[Financhu Crisis]].

Jacob Sockness, following the example set by the Idea Guys, nearly succeeded in manipulating Chris into a sexual relationship, holding the [[Dimensional Merge]] over his head and [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|faking a conversation with Chris's imaginary friend]] to convince him they should meet and consider marriage.

Though both the Idea Guys and Sockness were eventually ousted — by people countering their role-playing with their own — Chris has failed to learn and continues to leave the gates to his imaginary realm open to anyone who will validate his fantasies further.

===Property damage===
{{quote|My hands have punched that wall more than once in the past, yes. But it was part of the sequence of events at the time in practice of physically breaking the threads of the [[iron curtain]] veil.|Chris.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Upset at MLP G5]]</ref>}}

As of [[July 2021]], a bathroom in the Chandler home has damage to the drywall from being punched in. Chris stated that he had punched the wall in order to physically break the "[[Iron Curtain]]" - his term for a dimensional barrier between reality and his fantasy dimension [[C-197]].

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File:Direct Message to Hasbro - MLPG5 Is Cancelled.-ay-NMiYIdGI.mp400002-min.png|[[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.|A video]] still showing the punched-in wall.
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==Fantasy and fiction==
{{quote|You think that comic character wouldn't have its own thoughts and feelings?|Chris's question to [[Alec Benson Leary]].}}
{{quote|NO!|Alec's response.}}
{{quote|You are [[naïve]].|Chris's response to Alec.<ref name="ABL call 2">[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>}}
[[File:Cwcpaddedcell credit Un Platano.jpg|right|thumb|The chances of this happening were staggering... [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|And one day, it did happen!]]]]

By the time the internet first discovered him circa 2007, Chris already held beliefs that CWCville and his imaginary friends were real, and that he had the power to curse people. Since then, as a maladaptive coping mechanism for his real-world life crumbling around him, Chris gradually took on larger-scale fantasies, such as [[Dimensions|parallel dimensions]].

=== CWCville ===

{{main|CWCville}}

CWCville is Chris’s original vision of an imaginary and idyllic fantasy world, where everything is built around his comfort and convenience, and where he enjoys great power with scant responsibility. Chris believes that CWCville is real, and uses the city as a way to “escape” from a world that does not [[Chris and his Ego|give Chris what he wants]]. CWCville was originally an infill city within the state of [[Virginia]], but it became part of the larger [[C-197|C-197 dimension]] when Chris started toying with the [[Dimensional Merge]].

All of Chris's characters are aware that Chris is the creator of their reality. Sonichu and Rosechu both refer to him as "father", in much the same way [[Chris and religion|a Christian might consider God to be his or her Creator]] (it is unknown if the comic exists in the universe of CWCville). Chris believes his characters possess the free will to make their own decisions, and that he is not responsible for their actions. This is how various events, both major and minor, such as Sonichu and Rosechu's wedding, the birth of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|their children]],<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Sonichu_and_Rosechu_from_1998_to_Today Sonichu Page on CWCipedia</ref> [[Kel]]'s romance with [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Naitsirhc]],<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#First_Encounter_with_Naitsirhc</ref> and even [[Bubbles Rosechu|Bubbles]] and [[Blake]]'s wedding<ref>[[I_Am_The_TRUE,_Original_CCWC#A_history_.286:02_to_9:34.29 I Am The TRUE, ORIGINAL CCWC]]</ref> are said to actually happen "off-screen", instead of just being a [[Chris and writing|spur-of-the-moment throwaway plot elements]] that Chris is [[stress|too lazy to depict]]. Without prior explanation, Chris made a "spoiler" in his own comic that [[Magi-Chan]] will eventually get together with [[Silvana]], implying that, in Chris's head, this has already "happened".<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_37 Issue 10 Page 37</ref> It is [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|Slaweel Ryam]], not Chris, who apologizes for slandering [[Mary Lee Walsh]].<ref>[[Mary Lee Walsh#Possible reconciliation]]</ref> Chris once justified his refusal to write Simonla out of the comic by saying that she would not want to leave CWCville, and that she and [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] would fight for her right to stay.<ref>[[Mailbag 43#...well, this is disturbing!]]</ref>

Chris considers everything drawn, written, or even said about CWCville to be canonical if he's the one stating it (regardless of contradictions) and feels it necessary to explain away undesirable changes to CWCville made as a result of outside influences (e.g. [[BILLY MAYS]], [[Julie Reveals Herself|as Mayor]]). The fact that he needs to explain this in his comic pages shows that he assumes everyone else shares this belief as well. Despite considering his own judgment infallible as applied to his own work, he forces [[Alec Benson Leary calls|others]] to accept the "corrections" he has made to theirs.

When the [[Asperpedia Four]] used systematic trolling to make Chris kill off the character [[Simonla Rosechu#Simonla as the Lynchpin|Simonla]], Chris viewed it as a deliberate attack on his fantasy world. CWCville, which had always been Chris's way of retreating from the real world, had been infiltrated by outside forces and was no longer impenetrable, so this is likely why Chris put the comic on hiatus; to stop outside forces from causing any more damage.

Chris's beliefs are such that he even claims to hold the distinction of Mayor of CWCville "IN REAL LIFE".<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)]]</ref> He only admits that CWCville is not real when he intends to pacify others he sees as too slow in the mind to comprehend this idea. He most likely defends this belief because he has accomplished and produced virtually nothing worthwhile in his life, and he likes to pretend that he has made a positive impact on something — if only on a metaphysical level. In his opinion, anyone who does not accept this worldview is "[[Chris and hypocrisy|naïve]]".

On 23 July 2017, Chris responded to his [[True and Loyal Fanbase]], who wondered why Chris wouldn't reboot his comics. As a response, Chris explained that if he were to reboot his comics, that would mean that history in the canon would have to start all over again, and all of the characters would have to start over from their original origins. Essentially, he thinks that if he pulls the plug on his Sonichu franchise and reboots it, that would mean that [[Chris and death|all of his characters would die, and they would somehow reincarnate into their newer upgraded versions]].

{{quote|I believe in the alternate dimensions where each set or all of our animated characters reside and live their lives, and continue growing long after their series is finished (or stay kids; whatever).|Chris to [[Doopie]].<ref>[[Doopie E-mails#Hey, Danielle]]</ref>}}

=== Dimensions ===
{{main|Dimensions|Dimensional Merge}}

{{quote|the moment I brought up the multiverse, he listened.|The original [[Idea Guy]] on how he got Chris's attention.<ref name=IGQA></ref>}}

Chris’s belief in alternative dimensions enables him to disconnect from the poor and mundane life he currently resides in and to shift the responsibility over personality flaws to an alternative Chris.<ref>[[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2]]</ref> It gives him solace to believe that he, or other versions of himself, exist in other places where he is content, successful, and surrounded by characters and people who love him. The Idea Guys exploited Chris's nascent beliefs and desires on other dimensions and further shaped them as part of their cult-like grip over his beliefs.

The Dimensional Merge is Chris's ultimate escapist fantasy, enabling him to think he is powerful, and wealthy, with real friends and a happy marriage, all just waiting for him on the other side of the "dimensional curtain". A concept originally created by the Idea Guys and later expanded on by Chris with the help of fantasy enablers, the Merge is his hope that the sister dimensions 1218 and C-197 will unify, with him overseeing the merge in his role as the goddess [[CPU Blue Heart]]. The dimension "1218" (sometimes referred to as "Earth 1218") is the dimension of reality. The dimension "C-197" is the designation for Chris's imaginary world which contains all of his favorite fictional characters and [[OC]]s. The Merge was originally scheduled to complete by the end of [[2018]] leaving behind a universe known as 1C-211987 with elements of both sister dimensions and enable Chris to realize his dream of hanging out with Sonichu and his pals.

===Imaginary friends===
{{main|Imaginary friends}}

{{quote|And One Day, Very Soon, [[Polyamorous marriage|my family]] and I will be able to show ourselves to you all, then you will be taking back your own “scizzo” labels. Harrumph!|Chris, [[May 2018 social media posts#Imaginary family|vowing]] that we will see his characters in the flesh.}}

{{quote|When I look into the eyes of a Original or Fictional Character, I do not see Fiction at all; I see a full living being and individual. I see a friend, or lover in few cases.|Chris, [[April 2021 social media posts#Fictional characters|describing]] how he sees his characters as real.}}

[[File:ChrisOverhearingNightstar.png|thumb|Chris overhears a conversation held by his imaginary friend [[Night Star]].]]

In addition to CWCville, Chris's belief in imaginary friends is another major element of escapism. A mix of maladaptive coping and daydreaming, Chris believes that [[List of Sonichu characters|his characters]] actually exists in both [[C-197]] and [[Dancing with Magi-Chan|1218]], and that he can communicate with them via [[meditation]] sessions — in reality, conflating his inner monologue with imagined visions and voices of his fictional friends.

There are many instances of Chris trying to interact with his imaginary friends over the years, becoming more prevalent over time as his desire for escapism intensifies. Examples include [[Imaginary friends#Sonichu|his confrontation]] with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] in 2004, his [[Dancing with Magi-Chan|imaginary dance partner]] at the 2017 BronyCon gala, and social media messages near the end of the 2010s written either from a point of view of any of his [[OC]]s<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Heart attack claim|Twitter messages]] from @MagiChan111448, 26 June 2019.</ref> or in which he claims to be with any of them.<ref name=aug2019car>[[August 2019 social media posts#Chris caused a fender-bender and kicked a cop car; discovers he's blacklisted from Papa Johns|Twitter messages]] from @CPU_CWCSonichu, 5 August 2019.</ref>

In the fall of 2017, the Idea Guys role-played as Chris's own imaginary friends, giving Chris validation over his preexisting notions and further fueling his maladaptive behavior — such as by convincing Chris that his imaginary friends will be united with him in the [[Dimensional Merge]] and that he is married to several of them in a [[polyamorous marriage]].

===Magical thinking===
{{main|Magical thinking}}

{{quote|Quite frankly I believe you are wasting your time there are more productive things in life than levitating a pen put your energy into those.|Magician Uri Geller's advice for Chris, who had asked Uri for help training his psychic powers.<ref name=uri>[[Uri Geller#E-mails]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I am Not wasting my time!|Chris's reply.}}

Chris's habit of magical thinking is another maladaptive coping method, manifesting in delusions of grandeur. Instead of putting in the effort to improve his own life, Chris prefers to believe that magic will do it for him. In addition, he believes that magic will allow him to neutralize his perceived enemies.

{{quote|I intend to do a LOT more good with my Psychic Powers to bring Peace and take down up to All of the Internet Haters and Bullies! I Need to do all these in my own control.|Chris<ref name=uri></ref>}}

Chris believes he has an array of magic powers. Most notable is the ability to [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] his enemies (as well as to [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|undo it]]). Others include [[Sarah May Skype Logs|communicating with the dead]], [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L|brainwashing people]], and [[psychic powers]].

===Superstitions===
[[Image:Chris_chan_and_reality_jpg.jpg|450px|thumb|left|{{w|The Shining (film)|"Great party, isn't it?"}}]]

While most of Chris's superstitions are his own, he also takes part in popular superstitions as well. Autistic people in general tend to be predisposed to wishful and magical thinking, finding superstitions to be comforting.

Chris dislikes the number 13 because he thinks it is an unlucky number: triskaidekaphobia (the fear of 13) is already a common American superstition, with {{w|Microsoft Office}} notably skipping version 13 during the development of Office 2010.<ref>Flynn, David, [https://web.archive.org/web/20090206073052/http://apcmag.com/microsoft_to_skip_unlucky_office_13.htm/ ‘Microsoft to skip "unlucky" Office 13’], ''Australian Personal Computer (APC)'', 29 March 2007 (accessed 6 May 2019).</ref> However, Chris's fear of the number 13 had an unusual effect on the numbering of the ''Sonichu'' comics, where ''Sonichu #13'' was numbered as [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]] (showing his incompetency with either logic or [[math]])<ref>[[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content|Captain’s Log, 14 August 2017 (''More Positive Content'')]].</ref> and where the Episode ''"One Lucky Dog"'' from [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] was labeled "[[Sonichu 6#Episode 12.5: "One Lucky Dog"|Episode 12.5]]".<ref>[https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/SchuComic7P1.htm Sonichu 6, Page 1.]</ref> On [[Twitter]], when going into multi-tweet rants, Chris numbers the tweets. For Twitter messages which exceed 12 tweets, Chris either replaces the number 13 with a repeated 12 or with 12-9.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1023969772168511488</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1006915844016869377</ref><ref>It should be noted that there are more sensible ways for avoiding the use of the number 13, even if it is necessary to maintain the consistency of numbering. They include:
* Renumbering 13 as 12A, 12½ or 12.5;
* Renumbering 13 as 12B, and renumber 12 as 12A.</ref>

Chris has also shown belief in astrology. He included his and [[Sarah Nicole Hammer|Sarah Hammer]]'s zodiac signs in the [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|Life-Shares]]. In his [[OkCupid]] profile, he wrote that his sign is "Pisces, and it's fun to think about". He wrote to [[Jessica Quinn]], "I am emotion-prone, and I tend to do as I feel and life flows, like the Pisces I was born under."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref> One of the quotes on his first Facebook was "I was born under the Sign of PISCES, the sign of the PROVIDER. I am fully capable of providing the necessities, and then some, for the Lucky Woman who loves me for me, and becomes my True Sweetheart". His belief in star signs may explain why he holds such a high significance to his [[birthday]].

Chris places significance on his [[Amnyfest Ring|birthstone]], which he calls "[[Speech impediment|amnyfest]]". He believes the class ring with the stone is what gives him power, and even pointed it out to [[Emily]] on their date. More recently, he has attached an amethyst quartz crystal to his [[medallion]].

==In the real world==
===Science and technology===
{{main|Chris and science}}
{{quote|I do not even know of the symptoms, because, again, if I literally overthought about it, I would be at greater risk of infecting myself from reading and repeating the list in my mind. It’s Neurotypical and idiotic for anyone to do that and overthink it.|Chris rationalizes staying ignorant of the viral disease [[COVID-19‎‎]].<ref name=viral>[[March 2020 social media posts#Chris finally weighs in on the coronavirus pandemic]]</ref>}}

Chris seems completely unaware of what current technology is and is not capable of. In his [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Sonichu article] on the [[CWCipedia]], he suggests that Nintendo pour their resources into developing a Poké Ball peripheral that would have slots for every generation of Pokémon games, including a slot for the GameCube memory card. He expects users of this peripheral to be able to read party data from the inserted game/memory card, display a holographic image of the Pokémon in play, and challenge people in real life who own the same peripheral (in a manner much like on ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]''). In addition, Chris has no idea how everyday machines such as [[Son-Chu|cars]] work, evidenced in how [[September 2014|he claimed]] that a 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block was a great "fixer-upper." Normally, any serious physical damage to a car's engine can only be repaired by a very skilled mechanic, or cannot be repaired at all and one must buy a new engine (both of which are not cheap, but [[Chris and money|that's an entirely different problem]]).

Chris has also been shown to lack knowledge of basic pathology. When he contracted a cold in December 2019, he had misattributed it to the large-scale [[Chris and anger|triggering]] he got from a number of people on his Twitter.

===Social rules===
{{main|Dating education}}
Chris also obsesses over popular "rules" about relationships. He's held onto the idea that sex should be given on the [[third date]], as well as other [[How to Talk to Girls|overly generic]] dating advice.

Other "rules" Chris has culled from pop culture include superficial platitudes about decency, often expecting them to be valid in situations concerning others he has wronged. To name a specific example, besides emphatically claiming to be [[True and Honest]] and [[Chris and remorse|requesting]] [[Apology Letters|others]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|"forgive and forget"]], [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers|Chris once openly expressed a belief]] that learning morals about love and friendship from franchises like ''[[My Little Pony]]'' and ''[[Care Bears]]'' '''can prevent war''' (woefully unaware that the real world and human beings are many times more complex than what is portrayed in a cartoon for young children).

===Conspiracy theories===
{{main|Conspiracy theories}}

{{quote|I bet, even Greene County had something to do with influencing that goddamn Michael Snyder [...] to make him pretend to have a reason to kick me out|Chris blaming his school board for a decision made by a game store manager.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>}}

Chris and his parents have come up with several conspiracy theories to explain away his life problems. Notable examples are Chris [[Greene County Conspiracy|blaming his elementary school]] for keeping him in his autistic shell, his parents' notion that [[Michael Snyder]] and [[Megan Schroeder]] were masterminds behind the [[trolls]], and Chris's belief that Snyder caused his own injuries when Chris and his mother [[28 October 2011|hit him with their car]].

===Estimation===
{{Main|Mathematics}}
{{Quote|A [[Son-Chu|CAR]] WEIGHS A LOT MORE THAN 10 TONS|Chris, being unaware that most cars weigh two or three tons.<ref>[[Mailbag 9]]</ref>}}
Chris has a tendency to hugely exaggerate estimates of [[Duck|length]], [[White knight E-mails|weight]], and [[I AM STRONG|strength]] in his favor, as evidenced in his description of a [[11042009 51 50|12-pack of canned lemonade as being fifty pounds (22.7 kg)]]. This behavior is symptomatic of {{w|dyscalculia}}, a common symptom of autism, which leaves the sufferer with poor comprehension of time, measurement, or spatial reasoning. However, Chris does not really display any other symptoms of it, suggesting this behavior isn't mere ignorance, but rather Chris telling childish lies to try to impress people with his physical strength.

===Lack of theory of mind===
Chris has no idea on what the billions of people on the planet think. He thinks that all men would happily wear [[Brassieres For Males|bras]] and skirts (It must be noted that Chris thought these ideas so that he and he alone would feel more comfortable [[Tomgirl Saga|crossdressing]]), and that every Sonic fan on the planet would support him in his [[Sonic Boom Protests]]. When somebody informs him that they have a different opinion from him, he throws a tantrum and denounces that person as a [[troll]]. While autistic people have long been stereotyped with a lack of theory of mind, research into the double empathy problem proves they don't necessarily lack it, though Chris definitely does – his actions speak for little, if any.

===Narcissistic tendencies===
{{main|Examples of Chris's Ego}}
Chris automatically assumes his lies will be believed, even if they contradict existing information. This is copiously evidenced in his constant [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] during the [[Father Call]], wherein Chris fibs incessantly about his [[Chris and health|health]] (among other things), frequently denying things or changing his story whenever he gets caught out. His habit of lying and lying about his lies is likely inherited from his mother, whom [[Cole Smithey E-mails|his brother described]] as a pathological liar. When asked by [[Evan]] to remove [[Simonla]] from his comics, Chris decided that he could have created her without the inspiration of Evan's character [[Simonchu]] and, thus, effectively had.<ref>[[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly]]</ref> The fact that he [[Things Chris has ripped off|demonstrably could not have done this]] did not factor into his reasoning. Chris "[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3|corrected]]" Simonla's [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Simonla_Rosechu CWCipedia entry] with a "[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 4|retraction]]" denying that Simonla had ever been inspired by Simonchu. Chris expected that this revised version of the truth would be happily accepted by all concerned parties.

In addition to lies, Chris expects that any [[Chris and remorse|so-called "apology"]] will immediately change the minds of any perceived "enemy" of his and everything will be sunshine and rainbows for him again. [[Chris_and_remorse#Index_of_Chris.27s_apologies|He has done this many times before]] [[Megan_emails,_2008#Megan_can.27t_trust_Chris_anymore|but]] [[Mailbag_26#Mary_Lee_Walsh_trolls_IRL|almost]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|always]] [[Apology Letters|not]] working out in his favor, especially considering his [[Chris and his ego|self-centered temperament]] and [[Chris and the law|generally nonchalant disregard for social etiquette]] are often what cause him trouble in the first place.

Later on, however, he opted for [[Unban contracts|a different approach in the form of contracts]]. In addition to (unwittingly) invalidating his own contract with a stipulation that store managers ''cannot hand him over to the police'', he proclaimed that refusal to let an individual with a history of belligerent and disruptive behavior run amok in a retail setting would prove a manager to be "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul", even accusing them of potential discrimination simply because he identifies as an LGBT person.

Chris considers people with [[Asperger's syndrome]] to be "fakers" who are taking "the Shine and Limelight" away from genuine autistic people such as himself.<ref>[[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)]]</ref> Although Chris has admitted that this "fact" is only his "own idea," he still believes that to think otherwise is to [[Chris and religion|"conform to blasphem[y]."]]<ref>[[Autism Awareness E-mails]]</ref> As with many other things which antagonize him, Chris simply assumes Aspergers to be signs of a conspiracy targeting himself.

Unsurprisingly, Chris can come across as highly delusional when he expects to be taken seriously. For example, on 28 April 2012, he made an empty threat to the [[Kiwi Farms]] about hunting down each of its members; he claimed to know where each of them lived in an attempt to intimidate the trolls. Even if one were to gloss over the fact that he wouldn't even [[Shigeru Miyamoto|cough up $800 to travel to Redmond to see his dreams come true]] (and it should be noted that there are trolls all over America, and indeed the world), there's a high chance that there will only be one [[Kick the Autistic|outcome]] of Chris actively pursuing his trolls with the purpose of doing them harm. All things considered, Chris ended up making himself even more of a laughingstock in the process.

Like many of his worst flaws, this contributed to the biggest mess Chris had ever gotten himself into. In [[July 2021|July of 2021]], Chris felt a need to confide in someone that [[Affair with Mother|he was shagging his elderly mom]], after previously lying that he was with an anonymous older woman. For this, he chose [[Bella]], foolishly thinking he could trust her to keep the details secret, despite Chris confessing to the illegal act of incest, having been informed by [[Null]] she's an obvious troll ''and'' that he had suffered the consequences of [[Honest Content|oversharing personal information]] (multiple times) '''for years'''. Needless to say, [[Jail Saga|this caused a ruckus that ultimately led to Chris getting arrested]].

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Chris and reality

2025-12-20T10:01:41Z

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{{quote|You can only escape in your mental depths and recluse for so long before you are pulled back to reality, and too many things leave you feeling like you get little peace at home.|Chris, [[December 2016]], in a rare moment of self-awareness on his habit of escapism.<ref name=rare>[[December 2016 Facebook posts#State of CWC's life]]</ref>}}
[[File:30yrslater.jpg|thumb|250px|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
[[File:Ideaguy poster.jpg|thumb|right|250px|thumb|...for real.]]

'''Reality''' is a concept that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] desperately tries to avoid acknowledging, instead retreating to the comfort of his imaginary world and hoping that reality will eventually bend to his whims. [[Autism|Autistic people]] tend to struggle distinguishing between reality and fantasy, but most make an effort to reduce the impact on their lives. Chris, on the other hand, embraces his realm of fantasy and '''delusions''', especially as escapism from [[stress]], life responsibilities, and his bleak future, trapping himself in a feedback loop whereby his real-world life and issues are further neglected while his devotion to his fantasies gets stronger.

Notably, Chris believes that [[CWCville]] and his [[imaginary friends]] are real: Chris has been spotted conversing, interacting, and [[BronyCon 2017#Dancing with Magi-Chan|dancing]] with them on many occasions, and even believes that he is [[Polyamorous marriage|married]] to imaginary people. Chris also holds many delusions of grandeur, from believing he has the power to curse people,<ref>According to [[Jackie Chat 5]] and [[Jackie E-mails 16]], Chris wrote that Sonichu was in Mary Lee Walsh’s office with him: he then pretended to be Sonichu himself and delivered a lecture, before using the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] attack.</ref> to thinking he has [[PsychicPowers|psychic powers]], and even believing he is a [[CPU Blue Heart|goddess]] with the power to unite entire [[dimensions]] — and that this [[Dimensional Merge]] would make him rich and bring his fictional characters, and those of others, to life.

Chris's perception of reality has been on a downward spiral for most of his life, due to a lifetime of being coddled by his parents. Following the death of his [[father]] in 2011, and amid the increasing infirmity of his [[mother]], Chris was forced into shouldering more responsibilities that he was mentally ill-equipped to bear, and consequently, he invested more heavily in magical beliefs as solutions to the problems presented by reality. In 2017, the [[Idea Guys]], trolls who utilized role-playing as Chris's imaginary friends, further exacerbated Chris's grasp of reality, giving validation to his fantasies and encouraging him to stay rooted in his fantasy world — a trend continued at present-day by waves of [[enablers]].

Chris maintains his beliefs even in the face of mental health professionals — for nine months between summer 2018 and spring 2019, he was required to see a psychiatrist and therapy group at [[Region Ten]] and told them of his beliefs on his imaginary friends and multiple dimensions, to which their reaction was to simply hand-wave him through their program.

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== Causes of Chris’s poor grip on reality ==

[[File:I'm Done Adulting T-shirt.png|thumb|200px|Chris wearing his "[[Chris and fashion|I'm Done Adulting]]" T-shirt while begging for money and being surrounded by toys in his [[Patreon announcement]]. (You can't be finished with something that never started.)]]

===Parental enabling===
Although autism is one major factor, [[Borb|his parents]] contributed a lot towards Chris's warped perception of anyone or anything that antagonizes him: Bob and Barbara regularly fed Chris conciliatory platitudes about how he was mistreated out of jealousy, and that "special rules" exist for the benefit of autistic people. The platitudes cemented Chris's [[Chris and his Ego|all-pervasive sense of entitlement]], as well as his indiscriminate belief that [[Greene County Conspiracy|anything bad that happened to him was a conspiracy]], whether or not it was caused by his [[slow-in-the-minds|stupidity]] or [[Chris and negotiation|stubbornness]].

===Psychological problems===

The only known formal diagnoses of Chris are [[autism]], dating from when he was five or six years old, and [[transgender|gender dysphoria]], officially diagnosed in 2016. However, his behavior in adulthood suggests he has undiagnosed issues.

Chris exhibits signs of {{W|maladaptive daydreaming}}, a psychiatric disorder comprised of vivid [[daydreams]] and excessive fantasies that can interfere with socializing or even replace it altogether. This behavior is observed in Chris with his [[imaginary friends]] and [[CWCville]], the [[Dimensional Merge]], and especially the [[polyamorous marriage]]. Maladaptive Daydreaming is also associated with pacing and musical stimulation. Eyewitness accounts of Chris such as [[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer]] mention these behaviors in him. Chris also stated that music from his phone is his method for [[meditation]].<ref>[[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2]]</ref>

{{w|Peter Pan syndrome}} is an informal pop psychology "condition" of being immature and refusing to grow up and accept adult responsibilities (like Peter Pan in Neverland). Chris has demonstrated this with his refusal to seek [[work]] or at least budget his SSDI, instead [[beg]]ging for money or ignoring his [[debt]] payments to afford more toys. An [[Debt hearing (eyewitness account)|eyewitness to one of Chris's debt hearings]] noted that Chris was "trying hard to revert to childhood", based on how he made childish noises during his time in the courtroom and talked back to his mother in a childlike voice. The Dimensional Merge represents Chris's ultimate desire to hide from adult responsibilities, as he believes it will grant his wildest power fantasies and enable him to continue living like a child. Chris's devotion to rejecting adult life has warped his perception of reality, as he spends all of his free time playing make-believe as if it were a religion.

====Does Chris have schizophrenia or a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder?====
Probably not.

A common theory since the Dimensional Merge saga unfolded is that Chris may have schizophrenia, based on his rantings about his imaginary world seeming as if he cannot distinguish between reality and fantasy. However, a closer look at Chris's ramblings shows that he's capable of discerning the difference, but couches it in the belief of different [[dimensions]] to preserve his escapist fantasies. Unlike a schizophrenic, Chris will distinguish between reality (or as he calls it, [[1218]]) and his fantasy domain (named [[C-197]]).

{{quote|Damn Dimension 1218’s “Reality” Limits and Shit!!!|Chris's reaction when reality's dimension and his fantasy dimension did not merge as predicted,<ref>[[January 2019 social media posts]]</ref> a prime example of him being able to differentiate reality from his escapist fantasies.}}

{{quote|though not fully doable on the 1218 side of the Dimensional Curtain yet, [I am] able to draw up a water-to-wine conversion and vice-versa.|Chris<ref>[[Reddit]]</ref> showing he is aware he doesn't have super-powers in reality.}}

Also unlike a schizophrenic, Chris's fantasies do not involve paranoia or hallucinations, and they are entirely self-serving. While Chris has made statements implying he is hallucinating, such as when he insists he can see or interact with his [[imaginary friends]], he often omits that he uses techniques such as "[[meditation]]" or "astral projection" (read: simple imagination), another indicator that his issue is Maladaptive Daydreaming. While Chris's reactions to the Idea Guys' brainwashing can seem like paranoid delusions (i.e., believing that laypeople can blow up the moon), they are better explained by his gullibility.

{{quote|I’ve had to commute to here, Dimension C-197, via astral projection [...] The tough part is having to leave my body behind in 1218. [...] Oh, but very soon, I shall finally, finally, be able to bring mys--body here to C-197.|Chris giving a rare explanation on how he delves into his fantasy world.<ref>[[A Moment With Dr Wolf Chris Chan and Greater Struggles]]</ref>}}

While Chris does on the surface exhibit some "negative symptoms" of schizophrenia, including asociality, an often-flat affect, and avolition, these are all better explained by his [[autism]], much like his [[ego]]centrism and mania-like states of anxious rage.

Chris's behavior and beliefs align at least somewhat with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder Schizotypal personality disorder], which is thought to exist on a spectrum with Schizophrenia. He arguably demonstrates all nine diagnostic criteria in the DSM-5:

*ideas of reference (believing that [[COVID-19|certain]] generally innocuous [[Dimensional Merge|events ]] hold special meaning or messages for oneself)
*[[CPU Blue Heart|strange beliefs]] or [[magical thinking]] that [[Mary Lee Walsh|influences behavior]] and is inconsistent with [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|subcultural norms]]
*[[Imaginary friends|abnormal perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions]]
*[[Conspiracy theories|suspiciousness]] or [[Greene County Conspiracy|paranoid ideation]]
*[[Saga|strange behavior]] or [[Chris and fashion|appearance]]
*excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self, (whilst Chris was largely comfortable around his paid-for [[Gal-Pal|companions]] during [[Manchester High School|High School]], his interaction with both the [[Love Quest|fairer sex]] and [[Man in the pickle suit|pickle bearers]] have since been riddled with [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|paranoid fears]] and [[Manajerks|delusions]])
*strange thinking and speech
*lack of close friends
*inappropriate or constricted affect

However, while these symptoms are all present in Chris, several can be almost exclusively attributed to his [[autism]], such as his social anxiety, lack of close friends, constricted affect, strange behavior, tendency to misinterpret people, mania-like states, gullibility, and egocentric philosophy. Some studies also link ideas of reference to autism. Also, Schizotypal individuals generally do not develop the [[Messiah complex|grandiose delusions]] he has developed over the years, and they generally are too reclusive to air their delusions.

In fact, many of these traits are consistent with autism, ADHD, bipolar, psychosis, schizophrenia, and other personality disorders.

Therefore, further digging than internet armchair analysis is required, and a professional trained to differentiate autistic symptoms from psychotic ones could further elaborate. Chris, of course, will likely never receive this in-depth evaluation, thanks to his [[Chris and mental healthcare|adamant refusal]] to seek out help voluntarily or benefit from professional help that is forced upon him. Again, he arguably does not demonstrate much paranoia outside gullibility, and does not appear to truly hallucinate his imaginary friends.

===Lack of grounding in the real world===
[[File:Artist_Depiction_of_Chris_mind.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction of Chris's imaginary world after he passes away and it dies with him.]]
Chris's lack of purpose, combined with his enormous [[ego]], further fuels his disconnection from reality, compelling him to instead seek out the purpose with make-believe, such as being the mayor of [[CWCville]] and being the goddess [[CPU Blue Heart]].

Since the government provides for him with the [[monthly tugboat]] — along with money from financial [[enablers]] — and his parents always provide a roof over his head, Chris has never had an incentive to [[Chris and work|get a job]]. Without the structure that a job, even a minimum-waged or volunteer position, would impart to him, Chris is instead free to wallow in his fantasies.

Chris's hobbies are mostly limited to [[Netflix]], [[video games]], [[YouTube]], and [[Twitter]]. Despite supposedly having a calling for art, he rarely draws like he used to. While video games can stimulate the brain, his hobbies leave little room for creativity or substantial self-improvement. Even a simple hobby like photography would be a big step up from Chris's current avocations.

Chris rarely leaves his [[room]], instead preferring to [[daydream]] for "three to six hours per day<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Barb ain't dead yet + Magi-Chan's likes]]</ref>". When he does socialize, it is mainly on his terms, role-playing with enablers who keep him invested in his fantasies or appearing at conventions with [[fans]] who treat him as a celebrity.

{{quote|As for what I do while awake, on the recent, I get up, take my meds, meditate while playing [[Tetris 99]] to at least take on the daily tasks for the game. Most days, I go out on errand or simple walking [...] Anyway, during the time at home, I tend to binge a show, do some drawing or creative, work (namely the [[TSSSF]] cards and the comic pages).|Chris describing his day-to-day life.<ref>[[Discord]]</ref>}}

===Escapist fantasies===
[[File:Dimensional Merge math on McDonalds napkin.jpg|thumb|200|Chris will sit down and [[Chris and science#Mathematics|calculate]] the number of casualties in his [[Dimensional Merge]] fantasy but won't write up a budget plan for paying off his [[debt]].]]

Chris embraces his fantasies as escapism, overindulging in them to the point that his interest in them has largely eclipsed his real-world life. When his childlike lifestyle conflicts with the responsibilities associated with being an adult, Chris retreats to his fantasy realm to cope.

This habit became especially prevalent in the years following the September 2011 death of his [[father]], after which Chris found himself thrust into the world of adult responsibilities as he had to do tasks such as pay his bills and help take care of his [[mother]] and pets. Chris was 29 years old when his father passed away; while most people would be accustomed to dealing with responsibilities by that age, Chris was unprepared for the burden since his parents had sheltered him up to that point for example until he died, his father had managed Chris's bank account due to his fiscal irresponsibility.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 8]]</ref>

{{quote|When my father was alive, I had more freedom; now that he has passed, I lost a lot of freedom and remain to take after the tasks he had left behind. [...] You can only escape in your mental depths and recluse for so long before you are pulled back to reality, and too many things leave you feeling like you get little peace at home.|Chris.<ref name=rare></ref>}}

Chris occasionally whined on social media about his position in having to help take care of his mother and pets — his statements gradually revealing more of his retreat into escapist fantasies.

In September 2012, he complained:

{{quotebox|Everybody else gets to go out for a fun and good time; I am stuck care-giving my mother and our [[dogs]], and it is Very Stressful on me.<ref>[[September 2012 Facebook posts#I Require Friends]]</ref>}}

In January 2013, Chris was hoping for a [[sweetheart]] to rescue him from his life:

{{quotebox|I need my Sweetheart-to-be to make me happy; my heart hurts literally from my depression and loneliness. Serving my mother is not a final purpose to me, and my social life is very slim. I feel like I lack direction in my life as well.<ref>[[January 2013 Facebook posts#Chris needs direction]]</ref>}}

By summer 2017, Chris was immersed in his escapism to the point that he was [[dancing with Magi-Chan]], one of his [[imaginary friends]], at [[BronyCon]]. In October of that year, from his list of reasons for refusing to get a job, half involved his devotion to his fantasies:

{{quotebox|I Have a TON and S***-Load of Responsibilities and Worries here at home care-taking my mother, dogs, cats, and to my own passion of my [[Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon]] Family, my City of Cwcville, my own Only-Me Psychic Connection [[Imaginary friends|to my family and friends there]], in that dimension. So, I'll be darned if I Do Not already have enough on my plate<ref>[[Kiwi Farms#Posts]]</ref>}}

Chris's desire to be rescued from reality left him desperate for his fantasies to be validated, his mentality similar to people willing to join cults. This led to Chris being exploited by a number of trolls, with the most infamous being the [[Idea Guys]]. Chris would only continue to retreat further and further into this elaborate alternate reality he has constructed in his mind. While under arrest for [[Jail Saga|sexually assaulting his elderly mother]], Chris chose to ignore the seriousness of the situation he was in and gave a long spiel to the responding police officers about Sonichu, his status as a Supreme Goddess, and the Dimensional Merge. As Chris sat in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] awaiting legal proceedings, he has now chosen to believe that he is also the [[Jail_Letter_-_19_September_2021|reincarnation of Jesus Christ.]]

===Cult of the Idea Guys===
{{main|Idea Guys|Enablers|List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris}}
{{quote|I feel need to also thank them for adding more connection between our sister dimension and I|Chris on the Idea Guys, retaining his cultist mentality several months after they had been ousted.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1017879233119469568</ref>}}

[[File:IdeaGuyCwc News Media.PNG|thumb|200px|Chris fell for this fake news graphic made by the original Idea Guy as part of his plot to convince Chris he was providing information from [[CWCville]]'s dimension.]]

On 25 [[October 2017]], Joshua Wise, the first of a duo that would later be dubbed the Idea Guys, contacted Chris.<ref>Date given in [[Sonichu 13]].</ref> Initially as an experiment to gauge Chris's gullibility, Wise began a plot to manipulate Chris into believing that Wise had made it into [[CWCville]]'s dimension. Drawing from his experience in role-playing communities and borrowing lore from video game/anime series ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'', Wise crafted an elaborate narrative that included edited image graphics, doctored audio clips such as [[Red Forest]], and role-playing as Chris's [[imaginary friends]]. Chris, by this point in his life desperate for his fantasies to be validated, eagerly accepted Wise's claims.<ref name=IGQA>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>

The association between Wise and Chris morphed into cult leader and devout follower. Wise, taking advantage of Chris's desire for validation, brainwashed his beliefs on CWCville and his imaginary friends, such as by claiming CWCville to be [[Operation BARBarossa|occupied by Nazis]], that [[Rosechu]] is a transgender woman, and that Chris is [[Polyamorous marriage|married to imaginary friends]], with Chris accepting it as fact.

At some point, the second Idea Guy, Stephen Boyd, joined Wise. Together, the two exploited their influence over Chris and had him make false statements for blackmail purposes and conned Chris into giving them thousands of dollars under threats they would destroy CWCville and release the blackmail material if he failed to comply.<ref name=extortionists></ref> Their activities caught the attention of people in Chris's inner circle, who formed a group later termed the [[Guard Dogs]] to counteract the Idea Guys and remove them from power. However, even after the ousting, and though the Guard Dogs tried to encourage him to seek therapy at [[Region Ten]], Chris still retained most of the beliefs the Idea Guys had brainwashed into him over the six months they were in power. Guard Dog Marvin explained Chris's perspective:

{{quoteboxgreen|"Reality" is a malleable concept to Chris.

To Chris, that these losers were pretending to be imaginary characters doesn't mean they didn't unwittingly connect with their counterparts in the other dimension or whatever. So yeah, he thinks Wise and Boyd were assholes who stumbled upon some magic or some shit.

Chris is mostly mad about money first and being made to embarrass himself second.

In regards to why he still maintains a lot of their canon, it's because Chris is too invested in his imaginary world to give up on it so easily. I think after Wise and Boyd were outed, he felt really uncomfortable about retconning most of their changes. Because if he retcons the past six months, then fuck, why can't he retcon all of it? That would make him feel really uneasy about the possible reality of his imaginary world.

That reality is most important to him.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Why Chris Continued Believing Idea Guys Influence]]</ref>}}

The post-Idea Guys era ignited a wave of [[enablers]] who sought to use the Idea Guys' tactics to worm their way into Chris's life. For a few months, the Guard Dogs attempted to protect Chris by screening his messages for him. However, given Chris's refusal to address his psychological weaknesses and willingness to find others to play make-believe with, the enablers eventually broke past their defenses, leading to the Guard Dogs washing their hands of Chris. The [[Teen Troon Squad]] in fall 2018, [[MKRNightVee]] in winter 2019, [[Jacob Sockness]] in summer 2019, and a myriad of [[other enablers]] took turns role-playing with Chris and enabling his fantasies in exchange for his attention. In addition, using lore brute-forced into his head by the Idea Guys, Chris declared himself to be a goddess — [[CPU Blue Heart]] — and began to preach about the [[Dimensional Merge]], further intensifying the cult vibes of his beliefs.

==Consequences==
[[File:Discord3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The fictional superweapon Kadingir, as depicted in anime series ''Symphogear''. The Idea Guys used this image to con Chris into believing they had the capability to destroy the moon and CWCville.<ref>[[The Bad Beginning]]</ref>]]

Beyond making a fool of himself, Chris's poor grasp of reality has compelled him to self-harm, fall for con men exploiting his beliefs, and cause damage to his home.

===Self-harm===
{{w|Gender dysphoria|Late-onset gender dysphoria}} is a psychological disorder describing those who identify with another gender over their own, and can present with the desire to be rid of their primary sex characteristics and prefer those of the other gender. Like with everything else in life, Chris sought out [[magical thinking]] to treat his gender dysphoria.

In March 2016, he discovered [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]], a collection of music tracks on YouTube claiming to, among other things, magically grant larger breasts and transform a penis into a vagina. Chris's confirmation bias over his breasts increasing, crediting it to the mysticism instead of his {{w|gynecomastia}} and [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+|poor measuring of his chest]], led him to believe that the claims made by the channel were true.

He pursued the penis-vagina transformation and began to prod his taint while under the impression there was a hidden vagina there.<ref>[[Reddit#Can males be born with a hidden vagina (minus the uterus)? (3 July 2016)]]</ref> Though the Subliminal channel claimed the transformation would take six months, Chris eventually lost patience. In July 2016, he grabbed a knife and made a [[self-inflicted taint wound]] in an effort to free his vagina. Chris's devotion to the delusion was so potent that he initially resisted efforts by concerned fans to pressure him into going to the hospital, though he eventually wore down and admitted it was a wound and obeyed treatment instructions.

===Con artists===
While Chris has long been taken advantage of by trolls, the tactics and goals from the likes of the [[Idea Guys]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] surpass the typical catfishing-for-content.

The Idea Guys gradually built up a strong psychological hold over Chris by affirming his fantasies and playing along with them, to the point where Chris had full faith in anything they told him. They then used their influence to con Chris out of $6,000 by threatening to blow up [[CWCville]] with a moon laser if he failed to comply, manipulate him into punching his mother, and had him make videos [[Chris slaps himself|slapping himself in the face]] and peeing on the floor.<ref name=extortionists>[[The Chris-Chan Extortionists]]</ref> Things became even darker when the Idea Guys threatened to falsely report Chris as a [[Pedofork|pedophile]] to the FBI if he stopped supplying them with vast sums of money, consoles, and games, thus deepening the [[Financhu Crisis]].

Jacob Sockness, following the example set by the Idea Guys, nearly succeeded in manipulating Chris into a sexual relationship, holding the [[Dimensional Merge]] over his head and [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|faking a conversation with Chris's imaginary friend]] to convince him they should meet and consider marriage.

Though both the Idea Guys and Sockness were eventually ousted — by people countering their role-playing with their own — Chris has failed to learn and continues to leave the gates to his imaginary realm open to anyone who will validate his fantasies further.

===Property damage===
{{quote|My hands have punched that wall more than once in the past, yes. But it was part of the sequence of events at the time in practice of physically breaking the threads of the [[iron curtain]] veil.|Chris.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Upset at MLP G5]]</ref>}}

As of [[July 2021]], a bathroom in the Chandler home has damage to the drywall from being punched in. Chris stated that he had punched the wall in order to physically break the "[[Iron Curtain]]" - his term for a dimensional barrier between reality and his fantasy dimension [[C-197]].

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File:Direct Message to Hasbro - MLPG5 Is Cancelled.-ay-NMiYIdGI.mp400002-min.png|[[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.|A video]] still showing the punched-in wall.
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==Fantasy and fiction==
{{quote|You think that comic character wouldn't have its own thoughts and feelings?|Chris's question to [[Alec Benson Leary]].}}
{{quote|NO!|Alec's response.}}
{{quote|You are [[naïve]].|Chris's response to Alec.<ref name="ABL call 2">[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>}}
[[File:Cwcpaddedcell credit Un Platano.jpg|right|thumb|The chances of this happening were staggering... [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|And one day, it did happen!]]]]

By the time the internet first discovered him circa 2007, Chris already held beliefs that CWCville and his imaginary friends were real, and that he had the power to curse people. Since then, as a maladaptive coping mechanism for his real-world life crumbling around him, Chris gradually took on larger-scale fantasies, such as [[Dimensions|parallel dimensions]].

=== CWCville ===

{{main|CWCville}}

CWCville is Chris’s original vision of an imaginary and idyllic fantasy world, where everything is built around his comfort and convenience, and where he enjoys great power with scant responsibility. Chris believes that CWCville is real, and uses the city as a way to “escape” from a world that does not [[Chris and his Ego|give Chris what he wants]]. CWCville was originally an infill city within the state of [[Virginia]], but it became part of the larger [[C-197|C-197 dimension]] when Chris started toying with the [[Dimensional Merge]].

All of Chris's characters are aware that Chris is the creator of their reality. Sonichu and Rosechu both refer to him as "father", in much the same way [[Chris and religion|a Christian might consider God to be his or her Creator]] (it is unknown if the comic exists in the universe of CWCville). Chris believes his characters possess the free will to make their own decisions, and that he is not responsible for their actions. This is how various events, both major and minor, such as Sonichu and Rosechu's wedding, the birth of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|their children]],<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Sonichu_and_Rosechu_from_1998_to_Today Sonichu Page on CWCipedia</ref> [[Kel]]'s romance with [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Naitsirhc]],<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#First_Encounter_with_Naitsirhc</ref> and even [[Bubbles Rosechu|Bubbles]] and [[Blake]]'s wedding<ref>[[I_Am_The_TRUE,_Original_CCWC#A_history_.286:02_to_9:34.29 I Am The TRUE, ORIGINAL CCWC]]</ref> are said to actually happen "off-screen", instead of just being a [[Chris and writing|spur-of-the-moment throwaway plot elements]] that Chris is [[stress|too lazy to depict]]. Without prior explanation, Chris made a "spoiler" in his own comic that [[Magi-Chan]] will eventually get together with [[Silvana]], implying that, in Chris's head, this has already "happened".<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_37 Issue 10 Page 37</ref> It is [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|Slaweel Ryam]], not Chris, who apologizes for slandering [[Mary Lee Walsh]].<ref>[[Mary Lee Walsh#Possible reconciliation]]</ref> Chris once justified his refusal to write Simonla out of the comic by saying that she would not want to leave CWCville, and that she and [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] would fight for her right to stay.<ref>[[Mailbag 43#...well, this is disturbing!]]</ref>

Chris considers everything drawn, written, or even said about CWCville to be canonical if he's the one stating it (regardless of contradictions) and feels it necessary to explain away undesirable changes to CWCville made as a result of outside influences (e.g. [[BILLY MAYS]], [[Julie Reveals Herself|as Mayor]]). The fact that he needs to explain this in his comic pages shows that he assumes everyone else shares this belief as well. Despite considering his own judgment infallible as applied to his own work, he forces [[Alec Benson Leary calls|others]] to accept the "corrections" he has made to theirs.

When the [[Asperpedia Four]] used systematic trolling to make Chris kill off the character [[Simonla Rosechu#Simonla as the Lynchpin|Simonla]], Chris viewed it as a deliberate attack on his fantasy world. CWCville, which had always been Chris's way of retreating from the real world, had been infiltrated by outside forces and was no longer impenetrable, so this is likely why Chris put the comic on hiatus; to stop outside forces from causing any more damage.

Chris's beliefs are such that he even claims to hold the distinction of Mayor of CWCville "IN REAL LIFE".<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)]]</ref> He only admits that CWCville is not real when he intends to pacify others he sees as too slow in the mind to comprehend this idea. He most likely defends this belief because he has accomplished and produced virtually nothing worthwhile in his life, and he likes to pretend that he has made a positive impact on something — if only on a metaphysical level. In his opinion, anyone who does not accept this worldview is "[[Chris and hypocrisy|naïve]]".

On 23 July 2017, Chris responded to his [[True and Loyal Fanbase]], who wondered why Chris wouldn't reboot his comics. As a response, Chris explained that if he were to reboot his comics, that would mean that history in the canon would have to start all over again, and all of the characters would have to start over from their original origins. Essentially, he thinks that if he pulls the plug on his Sonichu franchise and reboots it, that would mean that [[Chris and death|all of his characters would die, and they would somehow reincarnate into their newer upgraded versions]].

{{quote|I believe in the alternate dimensions where each set or all of our animated characters reside and live their lives, and continue growing long after their series is finished (or stay kids; whatever).|Chris to [[Doopie]].<ref>[[Doopie E-mails#Hey, Danielle]]</ref>}}

=== Dimensions ===
{{main|Dimensions|Dimensional Merge}}

{{quote|the moment I brought up the multiverse, he listened.|The original [[Idea Guy]] on how he got Chris's attention.<ref name=IGQA></ref>}}

Chris’s belief in alternative dimensions enables him to disconnect from the poor and mundane life he currently resides in and to shift the responsibility over personality flaws to an alternative Chris.<ref>[[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2]]</ref> It gives him solace to believe that he, or other versions of himself, exist in other places where he is content, successful, and surrounded by characters and people who love him. The Idea Guys exploited Chris's nascent beliefs and desires on other dimensions and further shaped them as part of their cult-like grip over his beliefs.

The Dimensional Merge is Chris's ultimate escapist fantasy, enabling him to think he is powerful, and wealthy, with real friends and a happy marriage, all just waiting for him on the other side of the "dimensional curtain". A concept originally created by the Idea Guys and later expanded on by Chris with the help of fantasy enablers, the Merge is his hope that the sister dimensions 1218 and C-197 will unify, with him overseeing the merge in his role as the goddess [[CPU Blue Heart]]. The dimension "1218" (sometimes referred to as "Earth 1218") is the dimension of reality. The dimension "C-197" is the designation for Chris's imaginary world which contains all of his favorite fictional characters and [[OC]]s. The Merge was originally scheduled to complete by the end of [[2018]] leaving behind a universe known as 1C-211987 with elements of both sister dimensions and enable Chris to realize his dream of hanging out with Sonichu and his pals.

===Imaginary friends===
{{main|Imaginary friends}}

{{quote|And One Day, Very Soon, [[Polyamorous marriage|my family]] and I will be able to show ourselves to you all, then you will be taking back your own “scizzo” labels. Harrumph!|Chris, [[May 2018 social media posts#Imaginary family|vowing]] that we will see his characters in the flesh.}}

{{quote|When I look into the eyes of a Original or Fictional Character, I do not see Fiction at all; I see a full living being and individual. I see a friend, or lover in few cases.|Chris, [[April 2021 social media posts#Fictional characters|describing]] how he sees his characters as real.}}

[[File:ChrisOverhearingNightstar.png|thumb|Chris overhears a conversation held by his imaginary friend [[Night Star]].]]

In addition to CWCville, Chris's belief in imaginary friends is another major element of escapism. A mix of maladaptive coping and daydreaming, Chris believes that [[List of Sonichu characters|his characters]] actually exists in both [[C-197]] and [[Dancing with Magi-Chan|1218]], and that he can communicate with them via [[meditation]] sessions — in reality, conflating his inner monologue with imagined visions and voices of his fictional friends.

There are many instances of Chris trying to interact with his imaginary friends over the years, becoming more prevalent over time as his desire for escapism intensifies. Examples include [[Imaginary friends#Sonichu|his confrontation]] with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] in 2004, his [[Dancing with Magi-Chan|imaginary dance partner]] at the 2017 BronyCon gala, and social media messages near the end of the 2010s written either from a point of view of any of his [[OC]]s<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Heart attack claim|Twitter messages]] from @MagiChan111448, 26 June 2019.</ref> or in which he claims to be with any of them.<ref name=aug2019car>[[August 2019 social media posts#Chris caused a fender-bender and kicked a cop car; discovers he's blacklisted from Papa Johns|Twitter messages]] from @CPU_CWCSonichu, 5 August 2019.</ref>

In the fall of 2017, the Idea Guys role-played as Chris's own imaginary friends, giving Chris validation over his preexisting notions and further fueling his maladaptive behavior — such as by convincing Chris that his imaginary friends will be united with him in the [[Dimensional Merge]] and that he is married to several of them in a [[polyamorous marriage]].

===Magical thinking===
{{main|Magical thinking}}

{{quote|Quite frankly I believe you are wasting your time there are more productive things in life than levitating a pen put your energy into those.|Magician Uri Geller's advice for Chris, who had asked Uri for help training his psychic powers.<ref name=uri>[[Uri Geller#E-mails]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I am Not wasting my time!|Chris's reply.}}

Chris's habit of magical thinking is another maladaptive coping method, manifesting in delusions of grandeur. Instead of putting in the effort to improve his own life, Chris prefers to believe that magic will do it for him. In addition, he believes that magic will allow him to neutralize his perceived enemies.

{{quote|I intend to do a LOT more good with my Psychic Powers to bring Peace and take down up to All of the Internet Haters and Bullies! I Need to do all these in my own control.|Chris<ref name=uri></ref>}}

Chris believes he has an array of magic powers. Most notable is the ability to [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] his enemies (as well as to [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|undo it]]). Others include [[Sarah May Skype Logs|communicating with the dead]], [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L|brainwashing people]], and [[psychic powers]].

===Superstitions===
[[Image:Chris_chan_and_reality_jpg.jpg|450px|thumb|left|{{w|The Shining (film)|"Great party, isn't it?"}}]]

While most of Chris's superstitions are his own, he also takes part in popular superstitions as well. Autistic people in general tend to be predisposed to wishful and magical thinking, finding superstitions to be comforting.

Chris dislikes the number 13 because he thinks it is an unlucky number: triskaidekaphobia (the fear of 13) is already a common American superstition, with {{w|Microsoft Office}} notably skipping version 13 during the development of Office 2010.<ref>Flynn, David, [https://web.archive.org/web/20090206073052/http://apcmag.com/microsoft_to_skip_unlucky_office_13.htm/ ‘Microsoft to skip "unlucky" Office 13’], ''Australian Personal Computer (APC)'', 29 March 2007 (accessed 6 May 2019).</ref> However, Chris's fear of the number 13 had an unusual effect on the numbering of the ''Sonichu'' comics, where ''Sonichu #13'' was numbered as [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]] (showing his incompetency with either logic or [[math]])<ref>[[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content|Captain’s Log, 14 August 2017 (''More Positive Content'')]].</ref> and where the Episode ''"One Lucky Dog"'' from [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] was labeled "[[Sonichu 6#Episode 12.5: "One Lucky Dog"|Episode 12.5]]".<ref>[https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/SchuComic7P1.htm Sonichu 6, Page 1.]</ref> On [[Twitter]], when going into multi-tweet rants, Chris numbers the tweets. For Twitter messages which exceed 12 tweets, Chris either replaces the number 13 with a repeated 12 or with 12-9.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1023969772168511488</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1006915844016869377</ref><ref>It should be noted that there are more sensible ways for avoiding the use of the number 13, even if it is necessary to maintain the consistency of numbering. They include:
* Renumbering 13 as 12A, 12½ or 12.5;
* Renumbering 13 as 12B, and renumber 12 as 12A.</ref>

Chris has also shown belief in astrology. He included his and [[Sarah Nicole Hammer|Sarah Hammer]]'s zodiac signs in the [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|Life-Shares]]. In his [[OkCupid]] profile, he wrote that his sign is "Pisces, and it's fun to think about". He wrote to [[Jessica Quinn]], "I am emotion-prone, and I tend to do as I feel and life flows, like the Pisces I was born under."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref> One of the quotes on his first Facebook was "I was born under the Sign of PISCES, the sign of the PROVIDER. I am fully capable of providing the necessities, and then some, for the Lucky Woman who loves me for me, and becomes my True Sweetheart". His belief in star signs may explain why he holds such a high significance to his [[birthday]].

Chris places significance on his [[Amnyfest Ring|birthstone]], which he calls "[[Speech impediment|amnyfest]]". He believes the class ring with the stone is what gives him power, and even pointed it out to [[Emily]] on their date. More recently, he has attached an amethyst quartz crystal to his [[medallion]].

==In the real world==
===Science and technology===
{{main|Chris and science}}
{{quote|I do not even know of the symptoms, because, again, if I literally overthought about it, I would be at greater risk of infecting myself from reading and repeating the list in my mind. It’s Neurotypical and idiotic for anyone to do that and overthink it.|Chris rationalizes staying ignorant of the viral disease [[COVID-19‎‎]].<ref name=viral>[[March 2020 social media posts#Chris finally weighs in on the coronavirus pandemic]]</ref>}}

Chris seems completely unaware of what current technology is and is not capable of. In his [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Sonichu article] on the [[CWCipedia]], he suggests that Nintendo pour their resources into developing a Poké Ball peripheral that would have slots for every generation of Pokémon games, including a slot for the GameCube memory card. He expects users of this peripheral to be able to read party data from the inserted game/memory card, display a holographic image of the Pokémon in play, and challenge people in real life who own the same peripheral (in a manner much like on ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]''). In addition, Chris has no idea how everyday machines such as [[Son-Chu|cars]] work, evidenced in how [[September 2014|he claimed]] that a 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block was a great "fixer-upper." Normally, any serious physical damage to a car's engine can only be repaired by a very skilled mechanic, or cannot be repaired at all and one must buy a new engine (both of which are not cheap, but [[Chris and money|that's an entirely different problem]]).

Chris has also been shown to lack knowledge of basic pathology. When he contracted a cold in December 2019, he had misattributed it to the large-scale [[Chris and anger|triggering]] he got from a number of people on his Twitter.

===Social rules===
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Chris also obsesses over popular "rules" about relationships. He's held onto the idea that sex should be given on the [[third date]], as well as other [[How to Talk to Girls|overly generic]] dating advice.

Other "rules" Chris has culled from pop culture include superficial platitudes about decency, often expecting them to be valid in situations concerning others he has wronged. To name a specific example, besides emphatically claiming to be [[True and Honest]] and [[Chris and remorse|requesting]] [[Apology Letters|others]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|"forgive and forget"]], [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers|Chris once openly expressed a belief]] that learning morals about love and friendship from franchises like ''[[My Little Pony]]'' and ''[[Care Bears]]'' '''can prevent war''' (woefully unaware that the real world and human beings are many times more complex than what is portrayed in a cartoon for young children).

===Conspiracy theories===
{{main|Conspiracy theories}}

{{quote|I bet, even Greene County had something to do with influencing that goddamn Michael Snyder [...] to make him pretend to have a reason to kick me out|Chris blaming his school board for a decision made by a game store manager.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>}}

Chris and his parents have come up with several conspiracy theories to explain away his life problems. Notable examples are Chris [[Greene County Conspiracy|blaming his elementary school]] for keeping him in his autistic shell, his parents' notion that [[Michael Snyder]] and [[Megan Schroeder]] were masterminds behind the [[trolls]], and Chris's belief that Snyder caused his own injuries when Chris and his mother [[28 October 2011|hit him with their car]].

===Estimation===
{{Main|Mathematics}}
{{Quote|A [[Son-Chu|CAR]] WEIGHS A LOT MORE THAN 10 TONS|Chris, being unaware that most cars weigh two or three tons.<ref>[[Mailbag 9]]</ref>}}
Chris has a tendency to hugely exaggerate estimates of [[Duck|length]], [[White knight E-mails|weight]], and [[I AM STRONG|strength]] in his favor, as evidenced in his description of a [[11042009 51 50|12-pack of canned lemonade as being fifty pounds (22.7 kg)]]. This behavior is symptomatic of {{w|dyscalculia}}, a common symptom of autism, which leaves the sufferer with poor comprehension of time, measurement, or spatial reasoning. However, Chris does not really display any other symptoms of it, suggesting this behavior isn't mere ignorance, but rather Chris telling childish lies to try to impress people with his physical strength.

===Lack of theory of mind===
Chris has no idea on what the billions of people on the planet think. He thinks that all men would happily wear [[Brassieres For Males|bras]] and skirts (It must be noted that Chris thought these ideas so that he and he alone would feel more comfortable [[Tomgirl Saga|crossdressing]]), and that every Sonic fan on the planet would support him in his [[Sonic Boom Protests]]. When somebody informs him that they have a different opinion from him, he throws a tantrum and denounces that person as a [[troll]]. While autistic people have long been stereotyped with a lack of theory of mind, research into the double empathy problem proves they don't necessarily lack it, though Chris definitely does – his actions speak for little, if any.

===Narcissistic tendencies===
{{main|Examples of Chris's Ego}}
Chris automatically assumes his lies will be believed, even if they contradict existing information. This is copiously evidenced in his constant [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] during the [[Father Call]], wherein Chris fibs incessantly about his [[Chris and health|health]] (among other things), frequently denying things or changing his story whenever he gets caught out. His habit of lying and lying about his lies is likely inherited from his mother, whom [[Cole Smithey E-mails|his brother described]] as a pathological liar. When asked by [[Evan]] to remove [[Simonla]] from his comics, Chris decided that he could have created her without the inspiration of Evan's character [[Simonchu]] and, thus, effectively had.<ref>[[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly]]</ref> The fact that he [[Things Chris has ripped off|demonstrably could not have done this]] did not factor into his reasoning. Chris "[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3|corrected]]" Simonla's [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Simonla_Rosechu CWCipedia entry] with a "[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 4|retraction]]" denying that Simonla had ever been inspired by Simonchu. Chris expected that this revised version of the truth would be happily accepted by all concerned parties.

In addition to lies, Chris expects that any [[Chris and remorse|so-called "apology"]] will immediately change the minds of any perceived "enemy" of his and everything will be sunshine and rainbows for him again. [[Chris_and_remorse#Index_of_Chris.27s_apologies|He has done this many times before]] [[Megan_emails,_2008#Megan_can.27t_trust_Chris_anymore|but]] [[Mailbag_26#Mary_Lee_Walsh_trolls_IRL|almost]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|always]] [[Apology Letters|not]] working out in his favor, especially considering his [[Chris and his ego|self-centered temperament]] and [[Chris and the law|generally nonchalant disregard for social etiquette]] are often what cause him trouble in the first place.

Later on, however, he opted for [[Unban contracts|a different approach in the form of contracts]]. In addition to (unwittingly) invalidating his own contract with a stipulation that store managers ''cannot hand him over to the police'', he proclaimed that refusal to let an individual with a history of belligerent and disruptive behavior run amok in a retail setting would prove a manager to be "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul", even accusing them of potential discrimination simply because he identifies as an LGBT person.

Chris considers people with [[Asperger's syndrome]] to be "fakers" who are taking "the Shine and Limelight" away from genuine autistic people such as himself.<ref>[[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)]]</ref> Although Chris has admitted that this "fact" is only his "own idea," he still believes that to think otherwise is to [[Chris and religion|"conform to blasphem[y]."]]<ref>[[Autism Awareness E-mails]]</ref> As with many other things which antagonize him, Chris simply assumes Aspergers to be signs of a conspiracy targeting himself.

Unsurprisingly, Chris can come across as highly delusional when he expects to be taken seriously. For example, on 28 April 2012, he made an empty threat to the [[Kiwi Farms]] about hunting down each of its members; he claimed to know where each of them lived in an attempt to intimidate the trolls. Even if one were to gloss over the fact that he wouldn't even [[Shigeru Miyamoto|cough up $800 to travel to Redmond to see his dreams come true]] (and it should be noted that there are trolls all over America, and indeed the world), there's a high chance that there will only be one [[Kick the Autistic|outcome]] of Chris actively pursuing his trolls with the purpose of doing them harm. All things considered, Chris ended up making himself even more of a laughingstock in the process.

Like many of his worst flaws, this contributed to the biggest mess Chris had ever gotten himself into. In [[July 2021|July of 2021]], Chris felt a need to confide in someone that [[Affair with Mother|he was shagging his elderly mom]], after previously lying that he was with an anonymous older woman. For this, he chose [[Bella]], foolishly thinking he could trust her to keep the details secret, despite Chris confessing to the illegal act of incest, having been informed by [[Null]] she's an obvious troll ''and'' that he had suffered the consequences of [[Honest Content|oversharing personal information]] (multiple times) '''for years'''. Needless to say, [[Jail Saga|this caused a ruckus that ultimately led to Chris getting arrested]].

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Dodo Conservative: /* Michael Snyder */

{{quote|Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it|''Jonathan Swift''<ref>https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?title=A%20Modest%20Proposal%20and%20Other%20Prose&author=J%20Swift&publication_year=2004&</ref>}}
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==[[Affair with Mother]]==

*Many have come to believe that Chris had sexually assaulted his own mother when the news came out that he has had an incestuous affair with her following the leak of the infamous [[Incest Call]]. This notion would be perpetuated by several YouTubers and news panels, sometimes indirectly by claiming that Barb has dementia. Despite this, Chris has only ever been charged with "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD"<ref group = note>This charge appears to be used for all instances of parent-child and grandparent-grandchild incest at the jail Chris was sent to, probably due to character limits in the charge descriptions, as well as the fact that the text was likely generated from the numeric code for the offense.</ref> after this affair, and was never officially charged for rape or sexual assault.

Along with that, claims that Barbara had dementia had primarily came from begging videos where she could be playing up her frailty to elicit pity for money. (See: [[CWCki:Gossip#Barbara Chandler|Barbara Chandler]]). Therefore, whether or not this affair was entirely consensual is inconclusive.

==[[Anaxis]]==
*It is sometimes stated that Anaxis is female as a result of being referred to by she/her pronouns. However, this was only when he role-played as the character [[Lainchu]], who is female.


==[[Autism]]==
*It is common for observers to attempt to diagnose Chris as having "more than just autism", speculating what other types of disabilities or disorders he may have.
**It is also common to suggest that Chris couldn't possibly be autistic because of his sex drive, or conversely that the Love Quest is his way of overcompensating for the lack thereof. While asexuality (a lack of attraction to other people sexually, which isn't necessarily the same as a low sex drive, since asexuals can masturbate to pure sensation) is more common among autistic people, it is far from universal.
**Chris's lack of singing ability has been occasionally attributed to his autism. While a lack of control of inflections, or standard presentation thereof, is a common trait of autistic ''speech'', autistic people are actually more likely to excel in analyzing, hearing, imagining ("audiation"), and producing exact pitches, and are more likely to have perfect pitch.
**Some people claim that Chris was self-diagnosed. His [[Autism papers]] differ.
**Many also view mild autism as being synonymous with mild intellectual disability. However, autistics are often of normal or high intelligence. Chris's IQ is unknown.
**Chris has occasionally been accused of having a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Such a condition has neither been confirmed or denied. While Chris has occasionally hinted at believing cartoon characters to be real, he does clearly separate that "reality" from the actual reality by acknowledging them as existing in a separate dimension. While him seeing the characters might sound like Chris hallucinating, further analysis reveals that Chris is simply imagining them.
***While Chris post-jail has exhibited what some have identified as side-effects of ''anti''psychotics (such as mild sedation, rapid weight gain after losing most of it in prison, twitches that can't be explained as stims, etc.), those drugs are often prescribed as mere tranquilizers to people for a variety of reasons, including as an elective treatment for autistic irritability, and Chris never confirmed or denied taking them anyway.

==[[Autism disorder deferred disposition]]==
*Though Chris was dismissed from the case regarding his affair with Barb accounting for his autism, it should be noted he wasn't found innocent either. The records regarding the full scope of the case are sealed.

==[[Bailey Jay]]==
*It is often rumored that Chris was actually not disgusted by Bailey at all, and in fact was hitting on her. This appears to come from the fact that Chris still called her "pretty", even after discovering she was a "[[hermaphrodite]]", and the rather vague way he responded to her apologizing for accidentally sending him more nude photos after his initial shock. Though this isn't entirely impossible, it also hasn't been fully proven that this was the case.

==[[Barbara Chandler]]==
*It is often speculated by Christorians and observers that Barbara may have some degenerative brain disease, most often dementia. However, any official diagnosis of Barb's mental state is yet to be seen.
**It's worth noting that [[Guard Dogs|trusted sources]] have claimed to have talked to Barb, and have stated that she's pretending to be senile in order to get money<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)]]</ref>. While many of Chris and Barb's "begging" videos do show traits such as delayed speech or an apparent lapse of memory, other videos show Barb to be quite lucid, such as the few surviving clips of [[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]. However, it is worth noting that dementia is a condition where people may have "good" and "bad" days, or show more lucidity from time to time.

==[[Bob Chandler]]==
*Bob's rather complicated relationship with Chris is often times simplified into either being entirely good or entirely bad.
**It is sometimes stated that Bob had stopped caring about Chris at some point in his life, and only showed concern for his involvement with trolls for his own purposes. Such instances of this include supposedly paying Chris's high school gal-pals for their time with Chris, as well as his [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|intervention with Chris]] when trolls leaked their address online. These are based on speculation, however.
*One rumor is that Bob did Chris's college work for him, but isn't proven, and Chris's poor grades indicate otherwise.
*Bob is sometimes stated to be a Korean War veteran. This is incorrect. He served in the US Army Signal Corps during [[wikipedia:Operation Blacklist Forty|Operation Blacklist Forty]] — the American occupation of the southern half of Korea after World War II — and was discharged in 1948, never seeing combat.

==[[Caden Peck]]==
*It was believed for some time that Caden Peck had approved of Larry Vaughn's plan to send Chris to Florida, though this came from Vaughn reiterating what [[Bella]], who has been known to betray her associates (in this case Praetor) told him.
*It is often stated that Caden had staged some of the [[Sightings|Post-Jail sightings]] in order to promote sales towards Praetor, usually attributing accounts that post their photos to him posting them through the use of throwaway and sock puppet accounts on websites such as [[Reddit]] and [[Kiwi Farms]]. However, such claims come down to conjecture, and there are so far no confirmed cases of this.

==[[Clyde Cash]]==
*It is believed by some that the Clyde Cash persona was played by multiple people taken on by one identity. While several people would go under the name "Clyde Cash", mostly for completely unrelated plans, the original persona most associated with Christory was played by a single troll. This same troll would play as other characters in Christory, including [[Vivian Gee]], Gregg Mays, and [[Mao Ling]].



==[[Emergency Protective Order]]==

*Though the document lists Barb as a "victim", and ordered Chris to be taken away from Barb, who was deemed an "alleged abused person", Chris was still only charged for incest under Virginia Law, which doesn't specify a victim.

==[[Fiona Cooper]]==
Fiona Cooper, also known as Snoo or "The Suitress", was invited by Chris to join him and Bella to the [[Brony]] convention [[Everfree Northwest]]. Bella then invited Fiona into one of her Discord servers after she and Fiona were invited into The WCT's [[Knights of CWC]] server. After Bella had a call with Chris regarding his affair with his mother, she gave a clip of it to Fiona, who then shared it to a group of people in another server, causing it to get leaked.

*Much like with Chris, Fiona being autistic led to a flurry of misconceptions, with many sources putting great emphasis on this facet of her.
**It is sometimes stated that Fiona was mentally handicapped as a result of her being autistic. In actuality, autism is a spectrum, and affects those who have it differently, excelling in some areas over others; intellectual or otherwise. The belief that Fiona is mentally impaired appears to stem from the fact that [[Spooky Bones]] made a post on Kiwi Farms discouraging others from doxing Fiona, while calling her an "extremely autistic young woman". Despite such claims, nothing about Fiona indicates she's intellectually or otherwise mentally impaired.
**It is sometimes speculated that Chris supposedly didn't pursue Fiona because of her autism, citing his attraction sign, which explicitly stated that he didn't want an autistic girlfriend. This is ignoring the fact that said attraction sign was created 20 years before he met Fiona, and that Chris's tastes have drastically evolved over time.
**Fiona being autistic, combined with being framed by Bella, also led to the assumption of Fiona being a Chris-like figure, with some even going as far to claim she's more of a "vulnerable adult" than Chris is. This had led to the belief she was meant to serve as a "fall girl" and many of the other rumors mentioned in this section, with beliefs in her being mentally impaired leading to the assumption that she didn't have accountability in her involvement in Christory.
*It is a common belief that Fiona asked to be censored on the CWCki and elsewhere, with some accounts stating she changed her mind afterwards. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests in the first place, and even actively went against people's attempts at censoring her. The obfuscation of Fiona primarily arose from stigma surrounding her getting doxed followed by Bella framing her. Additionally, the Suitress policy on the CWCki was an entirely unilateral decision made by a single CWCki jerkop, [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] in response to this stigma. He also did not ask for the input of other users on the CWCki, nor did he ask Fiona personally if she wanted to be censored. Upon returning on a throwaway account on Reddit, Fiona both announced she was the "Everfree Suitress" and posted a picture of herself promoting her throwaway. The belief that she wanted censorship appears to stem from the fact that Psycho's inspiration for the policy was the Wallflower policy, where that actually did happen.
*It is a commonly held belief that Fiona wanted to be Chris's sweetheart. While she had admitted to having an actual crush on him, she had never actually stated to have a desire to be a sweetheart of his, or to be in a long-term relationship with him. She would claim in texts, however, that she was "fine with the friends with benefits thing" and that Chris considers her his "first real sweetheart".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Discussion of Incest]]</ref>
*Along with the first point, it is often speculated by observers why Chris supposedly didn't pursue a relationship with Fiona, and chose Barbara over her. In reality, Chris seemed to have held a rather conflicting standpoint towards her attraction towards him, claiming in chats and calls that he didn't see the relationship lasting long, forseeing that she'd meet a long-term sweetheart in college. However, Chris would also promise to her in a recording regarding Everfree Northwest not to be enraged at the G5 merchandise that may show up, and state that he "loved" her. He would also claim in a text that having sex with her would be the right step for her to take both for her "emotional and mental development". Fiona would also claim in a conversation with Bella that Chris was "embarressed and nervous" at the thought of his first real sweetheart. Chris would also refer to her by a pet name, "Fifi", that he had given to her in a [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022|jail letter]]. Along with all of that, Chris had been having his affair with his mother since late June, roughly a month before he ever met Fiona.
*It is often claimed that Bella wanted to film Chris having sex with Fiona for blackmail purposes, usually following that she'd do this to frame him as a [[pedofork|pedophile]]. This appears to be a rumor loosely based on two excerpts from the [[Incest Call]] and excerpts from leaked messages involving Bella. With regards to the Call, the first excerpt was where Bella discusses her friend [[Fiona]] (who held a crush on Chris) and tries to encourage Chris to pursue a relationship with her. In the second, Bella said she would create a slideshow of romantic stuff between Chris and Fiona during the [[Everfree Northwest]] convention festivities. Bella does not seem to actually state wanting to put any sexual content into the presentation. Adding onto that, Chris already discussed with Bella about the planned sexual intercourse he'd have with Fiona before she made the call. With regards to the leaked messages, Bella tried to create a cover story to protect Fiona when questioned by the Knights, claiming she was a minor. This was after the calls got leaked, and after plans for the convention were arranged, so it is unlikely that Bella intended to frame Chris of being a pedophile.
*It is sometimes stated that Fiona was a victim of sexual abuse, explaining certain factors such as her crush towards Chris. Though this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, this hasn't been fully confirmed. Additionally, since her account was deleted prior, some of the evidence for this came from Kiwi Farms users trying to attribute her to posts from deleted accounts on the CWCki's Discord server being referred to as "Snoo", her screenname on said server. This search for her posts also didn't account for the fact that she used a second account, which used an entirely different name, "ScootalooSister", after being banned from the server the first time.<ref group = note>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#The Suitress and Associates|Anaxis]] claims that Fiona wasn't aware she got banned prior to making the second account, though she also stated that people on there naturally "missed her".</ref>
**In addition to this, Bella is often cited to want to "steal" Fiona from Chris, often to represent it as her wanting to sexually assault her. Such claims, however, are based on out-of-context chats involving Bella stating that she became "besties" with Fiona, and swore to protect her from Chris.<ref>[[Chess club#More Bella Thirst]]</ref> This also ignores the fact that Fiona herself engaged in flirtatious behaviors with Bella, sending her a picture of both her face and legs, and telling Bella she "had sex with men", meaning that whatever feelings Bella had towards Fiona were entirely consensual.<ref>[[Chess club#Bella Thirst]]</ref> Bella had also stated that she only wanted to go to the convention to dance with Fiona at the Grand Galloping Gala event at the convention but otherwise hadn't expressed anything beyond that.<ref>[[Chess club#Everfree Dance]]</ref>
*It is often stated that Fiona was brought to a "mental hospital" or was "institutionalized" after her encounters with Chris, with the story usually stating it was a result of GiBi leaking her phone number or as a result of Bella framing her. Chris also repeated this rumor in an interview he had with Keffals. In actuality, this is an exaggeration made regarding events surrounding Fiona being told to the Mean Girls by her friend Grant. One of the Mean Girls had stated that Grant told them that Fiona had her internet privileges revoked, and "may have" been brought into inpatient psychiatric care.<ref>{{cite farms|thread = 96787|post = 9663622|writer = Basalas}}</ref> Grant seemed to have chosen not to give the exact details surrounding this, but this essentially means that Fiona was temporarily brought to therapy for a short period, likely overnight. This is not the same thing as being put in a "mental hospital".

==[[Flutter]]==
After Chris was released from Jail, he was spotted many times with an unnamed gal-pal, usually referred to as "Flutter". Often deemed as being one of the most mysterious aspects of Christory, several rumors surrounding her and her relations to Chris had naturally arisen afterwards.

*Some believe that Flutter was a recruit from [[Praetor]], though actual proof of this has yet to surface.
*It is often supposed that Flutter is Finnish (or perhaps Finnish-American) since Chris began studying Finnish in [[Duolingo]] for no particular reason around the time he met her and subsequently went to Finland multiple times with her. However, these factors cannot be classified as hard proof. Additionally, one observer stated that she had no noticeable foreign accent and other claimed that she spoke with an affected "anime girl" voice.
*It is sometimes stated that Flutter might be mentally handicapped. While this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, most of this comes down to conjecture than anything substantiated. This appears to be based on Chris's encounters with [[Fiona]], which had occurred under similar circumstances. One of the people who spotted Flutter with Chris claimed that she wasn't "noticeably" handicapped.
*It is claimed that Flutter frequented several Finnish image boards, though the identity of this poster hasn't been disclosed.
*It was once written on Flutter's page by the ween [[Xela]] that when she wore a facemask and sunglasses both to the airport and at a convention, she did this as a means to avoid attention from weens. Several other similar rumors about Flutter's face being obscured in photos would soon follow, with some even accusing those who took photos of her and Chris of being in cahoots with people like [[Caden Peck]].<ref group=note>There are a few photos of Flutter that do show her face, such as the image used in her infobox, so this is demonstrably false.</ref> Once again, while it is not entirely impossible that Flutter is trying to conceal her identity, almost all signs of this are circumstantial at best.
*Also on Flutter's page, it was written that there was a possibility that Flutter showed reciprocity for Chris when he allegedly "hugged" her at a CVS, stating that her body language "didn't indicate" reciprocity,<ref group = note>Specifically wording it like this not only assumes that it is known for a fact that Chris did advance on her, but also implies that because it hasn't been disproven, one could assume she expressed feelings back towards him.</ref> though this was based on a very blurry photo of them where not all of the details can be made out. This means it would be impossible to make out either of their body languages. While the person who took the photos had claimed that Flutter was uncomfortable with Chris's supposed advances, their claims have yet to be fully verified.
*Xela also knowingly spread a rumor that Chris and Flutter were going to have a baby some time in the summer of 2025 for the sole purpose of stirring up drama. He based this rumor on a misheard clip of a livestream. This rumor got promoted by several sources, including Null himself, so much so that it even made it onto tabloid media such as the ''Daily Mail''. In actuality, Chris had never discussed any such plans of having a child with Flutter, and was in fact speaking hypothetically of such a scenario.
*Flutter's first name is rumored to be "Auli" (an uncommon, old-fashioned Finnish woman's name) on the basis of a alleged call<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92TwU2gNZVA</ref> between a financial [[enabler]] and Chris posted to YouTube on 12 June 2025. In the call, the enabler tries to get Chris's guard down by asking him questions about [[Transformers|Autobots]] and [[Count Graduon]] before abruptly asking "Does Eileen know about this?", causing Chris to respond "Her name is Auli". Some have argued that the call was created using AI voice simulation tools or is otherwise inauthentic. Even if the call is authentic, it hasn't been confirmed that "Auli" is the correct spelling of the name.

==[[Gal pal]]==
*It is often asserted that Chris's high school "[[gal pal]]s" were paid by [[Bob]] to hang out with him during school hours and look out for him. Conversations between trolls and the former "friends" indicate that they had some kind of informal arrangement with Bob and the school principal, but there is no indication that they were ever paid for their services. When Chris was in middle school, however, Bob did pay a girl named Natasha to walk with him to and from the bus stop, with Chris handing her the money himself.<ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Natasha]]</ref>
*Chris himself now believes that his supposed friends were paid to hang out with him, causing him to disparage them as "hired help". This is based on a conversation he had with a troll who was posing as one of the friends in question. After he was told they had been paid, he asked [[Barbara]] if that was true and she told him it was. However, it is likely that Barb was never familiar with the details of the arrangement and may have had them confused with Natasha.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals]]</ref>
*People sometimes cite fake quotes from the troll [[Thetan]], who impersonated Chris' High School gal-pals, as evidence for them supposedly loathing Chris or regretting their friendships with him. It is also entirely unlikely that these gal-pals would have expressed any feelings about Chris' online presence, as they have long since moved on with their lives and have families.

==[[GiBi]]==
[[File:GiBi discusses Bella and the Suitress screenshot.png|thumb|200px|GiBi neglected to redact one of the phone numbers when showing screenshots (under red censor bar; screenshot was uncensored in his video). The number allegedly belonged to Fiona. This was the basis for much speculation.]]

GiBi, a semi-popular Christuber made a daily series regarding the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]] of Christory. He consulted several conflicting sources for information regarding the act, one of which was Bella. Bella tried to convince him that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", which GiBi argued for.

Bella also took screenshots of her DMs with Fiona and Chris and gave them to GiBi to leak. The screenshots included header information on names and phone numbers for both. When making a video on the screenshots, GiBi attempted to crop out the header information - while he succeeded at most, he neglected to crop two instances, leaving Fiona's phone number briefly visible. When told of this by Kiwi Farms users, GiBi promptly deleted the video and redid it to censor one instance, but failed to catch the other. When informed again, he again deleted the video. GiBi later posted the screenshots onto Kiwi Farms where he applied censorship to Fiona's phone number (and not Chris's).

*Before the uploading of the infamous video by him where he leaks Fiona's phone number, GiBi would mention on the Kiwi Farms about getting information on the leaks from a "friend" of his, alongside Bella. The "friend" that GiBi was talking to was presumed to be [[The WCT]]. In actuality, the friend was a CCCC user that went under the username "LavenderBonez" on that server, who seemed to be supportive of Fiona leaking a chunk of the incest call, even going as far as calling her a "hero".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#CCCC Incest Call Leak]]</ref>
*In its earliest form, [[GiBi]] had a section of the [[Orbiter Wave]] page, which initially covered people that were prominent during the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]]. In it, his leaking of Fiona's number was characterized as intentional from being prompted by Bella's disinformation. The section originally stated that ''Immediately accepting Bella's story that the entire scandal was the fault of Fiona, he then leaked Fiona's phone number in one of his videos for thousands to see.'' It appears to be speculation that there was a link between the phone number leak and Bella's story. The section was also revised to clarify that the leak was in the form of screenshots of text messages between Bella and Fiona in which a phone number was not redacted.


==[[Honor Roll]]==
*Whether Chris made the Honor Roll, or exactly what such a feat entailed around the time of his graduation, is unknown.

==[[Incest Call]]==
A key aspect regarding the drama that followed from Chris's affair had primarily come from how clips of this call had been leaked. So far, only four clips of varying lengths of this call had ever been leaked, all with various amounts of context. Because of this, many unproven claims regarding the people involved in the [[Incest]], [[Watchmen]], and [[Lainchu]] sagas have been heavily propagated.

*The date of the Call is unclear, which in turn has lead to gossip on what [[Bella]] wanted to do with the call. Evidence points to either 27 July 2021 or 28 July 2021 as the call date, however much of the evidence was from Bella's screenshots, and she has a history of creating [[Fabricated BDSM texts|fabricated texts at least once.]]

==[[Isabella Loretta Janke]]==
Isabella Loretta Janke is most known for her involvement in a call where Chris describes incestuous acts he's performed towards his mother. Before this, Bella had been in touch with Chris for almost a year, acting nice around him, while also showing many instances of A-logging or wishing harm towards him in Discord chats, sometimes outright claiming to want to make him harm himself. She would also roleplay as prior [[gal pal]]s like Kellie Andes and an employee for the Curiosity Stream, and has been known to encourage the verbal harassment and bullying of other students at her university. This edgy behavior would lead to many instances of misinformation or unproven claims resulting from the chaos around the [[Incest Call]], gossip on [[Kiwi Farms]], much of which was perpetuated by user [[Spooky Bones]], being taken at face value, and Bella's alleged plots towards Chris.
*It is often stated that Bella had convinced Chris to commit incest on his mother. In actuality, Bella was in a call with him, where Chris had discussed the matter openly with her. Chris had told her multiple times of instances of having an affair with a "sweetheart over 50", and had even admitted to having a wet dream of his mother in one other instance.
*It was initially written that Bella had a suicide plot towards Chris dating back to 25 April 2020. This was based on a Discord user, ZorgothTDK, who alleged that DMs between him and Bella, in which a Deleted User states "That's what we're trying to do with Chris [...] Get him be suicidal [...] Bc he's retarded", were Bella discussing Chris Chan. However, Bella knew of two other people named Chris - her cousin and another Discord user - making it unclear if she was referring to Chris Chan. Though ZorgothTDK claims that Bella was referring to Chris Chan, the full log of his conversation with the Deleted User makes no indication that Chris Chan was being discussed.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bella-janke-allegedly-planning-cwc-suicide-since-april-2020.97773/</ref> In addition, communication between Bella and Chris Chan has not been established for the time frame of April 2020 - [[Bella chats#Curiosity Stream|the earliest known message from Bella to Chris Chan occurred in October 2020]]. The exact time at which Bella had actually started interacting with Chris is not known, but she has claimed in one instance to have started trolling Chris for almost a year to one of her Chess Club associates in a July 2021 Discord message.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/servers-zip.2416454/ Zip file of Chess Club Discord leaks hosted at Kiwi Farms]. See "Chess club - chess" at 19-Jul-21 11:29 AM timestamp</ref> However, in two other instances, Bella would claim to a friend that she did have a plan to get Chris to kill himself in one instance,<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> and claim that she wanted Praetor members to convince him to cut off his penis in another, and hoping that he would die from a gender reassignment surgery accident.<ref name=animation>{{cite farms|thread=79414|post=8539683|title=YT 11/13/20 - Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation}}</ref>
*It was initially written that Bella had a blackmail plot involving the [[Incest Call]]. Usually this claim is in conjunction with the claim that Bella wanted to record Chris having sex with Fiona. While Bella had intended to leak the call after an unspecified point, and had created fake texts where Chris states he performed BDSM-style sex with Barb in the meantime, it is not known for sure if this would have involved blackmailing Chris.
*It was initially written that Bella self-assigned her bodyguard role for [[Everfree Northwest]], however Chris had assigned her the role.<ref>[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]</ref>
*It is believed by some that Bella had an incest fetish, part of the reason for her call with Chris. This would even be written a few times in articles that mention her. However, whether or not Bella was actually into incest is unclear. This in part seems to come from an incest fanfiction that she had allegedly created under the account '''narutoisgay77897''', which involves a father-son relationship between Naruto characters. However, the link between this account and Bella is unclear, and the account itself has "Im into engineering and electromagnetism and shit but u wont find any of that shit here, only gay hentai bitches." as its description, suggesting that it could be a troll account, if created by her. The account therefore cannot be used to prove this, as its legitimacy is questionable. A user by the name of '''Gungann''' would also continuously question Bella on this point, citing part of a transcription of her call with Chris which claims that she talked to Chris while aroused, though he doesn't give the source for this particular transcript, or where he was reading it from.
*It was once written on the [[Discord]] page that Bella was a member of the [[Discord#Official CWCki Server|Official CWCki Server]] before the call. This was loosely based off a policy on the server where mentioning or talking about her is prohibited, as moderators on the server were notified about harassment on the server, and were concerned of the possibility that either she or her friends would report the server if they found out that anyone was discussing her.

==[[Jail Saga]]==
*The letters that Chris had written in jail could not be used as evidence against him in court, as they were strictly his word.

==[[Jeff Ouzuo]]==
*Jeff/Francine did not create the ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'' fangame. It was the CWCki Forums user Maple. Because of Chris declaring this, several people came to believe that Jeff/Francine was Maple.



==[[Lainchu]]==
*The Lainchu character wasn't a troll persona. The character itself was created by Chris as a coping mechanism for the purpose of explaining certain events in his life. Chris entrusted the Watchmen to control Lainchu so that he could be "chronicled" properly. The Watchmen later used the persona with the intention of documenting select chats with his permission, and later for observers to ask him questions by proxy when he got banned from the CWCki Discord server.
*It was once written on [[The WCT]]'s page that he was the primary Lainchu, though this was incorrect. He had attempted to steal the role from [[Anaxis]] but Chris rejected the attempt.

==[[Liquid Chris]]==

*It is often stated that Liquid Chris was a single person. In actuality, Liquid was played by a set of twins, Christopher and Jon Duckworth. While Christopher played as Chris in Youtube videos and PVCC chats, Jon played Liquid during the Sing-Star Challenge.
*While [[The Miscreants]] (group of trolls including the one behind Clyde Cash) would claim Liquid Chris, the brothers and girlfriend behind Liquid Chris and Kacey alike appear to have started their trolling independently, after Christopher Duckworth began comically impersonating Chris Chan.
*Liquid Chris started impersonating Chris a month before the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, and was barely influenced by this video.

==[[Megan Schroeder]]==
*It is often stated that Chris ruined his friendship with her by posting [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. In reality, their friendship had already been long deteriorating at that point; [[Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007|email correspondences]] from that period show that Megan was already getting sick of Chris's creepy behavior and [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] have stated that Megan was already avoiding Chris before the photo was posted online. SheCameForCWC.jpg was just the point where things came to such a head that Megan was forced to cut off all contact with Chris.
*It later surfaced that Chris did not shred the physical copy of SheCameForCWC.jpg before placing it in the [[Crumple-Lope]], but neatly cut it into squares.
*It is often stated that Megan was the only legitimate female friend that Chris had that wasn't a troll. While Megan is the most well-known one, this is ignoring people in Chris's life like [[Anna McLerran]], [[The Wallflower]], [[Fiona Cooper]], the [[Pokémon League friends]], [[Tings Tingz]], [[MKRNightVee]], [[Helena Fiorenza]], [[Midnight Moonflower]], and [[Flutter]].

==[[Michael Snyder]]==
*There is no evidence that Michael is or is not Jewish, either by faith or ethnicity. This came from Chris believing him to be such due to his last name.
*The now-deleted YouTube account TheRcholic claimed to be Michael in comments which he left on multiple videos by Chris. It is nearly impossible, for logistical and professional reasons, that this account really was Michael. On 6 [[June 2010]], TheRcholic left a comment about an encounter he was having with Chris at [[The GAMe PLACe]] "right now". Chris subsequently confirmed that an encounter had taken place, seemingly confirming the account's legitimacy, although in Chris's telling it had happened the previous Friday, 4 June, after [[Fridays After Five]]. TheRcholic also claimed that Chris had used the word "[[Niggo|nigger]]" to refer to black patrons of The GAMe PLACe prior to his banning, an allegation which is otherwise unsubstantiated.

==[[Monthly Tugboat]]==
*It was previously written on the page that Chris would earn more money overall if he got an actual job and didn't rely solely on the tugboat. This however was built off of a number of assumptions and speculative information.
*Bob did not actually believe that Chris would make more money off of the Tugboat, and actually was hoping that Chris would find actual employment, expressing being impressed at Chris's computer literacy and him obtaining two CADD degrees.<ref>[[Bob Call 6]]</ref>

==[[Niggos]]==
*Chris had never said the word "nigger" outside of troll interference. He also never said the phrase "no darkies". This came from a piece of fan art parodying his attraction sign.

==[[OfficialCWCmart]]==
*It is often said that Chris only makes 7% off of the sales from OfficialCWCMart. However, this estimate conflates his royalty from the Praetor-made medallions with the stuff that he makes himself. It is currently unknown how much of the content sold on the Etsy was from Chris collaborating with Praetor.

==[[Pedofork]]==
*Although not impossible, all evidence of Chris being a pedophile so far comes from untrustworthy sources or instances where trolls pressured him into saying such things, so it is unwise to assume so.

==[[Praetor]]==
*[[Larry Vaughn]]'s claims about Praetor were once written on their article. However, he based these claims off of things that were said verbatim by [[Bella]], a known habitual liar who has on several occasions lied about her own associates. A few such claims include:
**Praetor were a group of trolls akin to the [[Idea Guys]] or the [[Teen Troon Squad]]
**They produced a lot of their merchandise in a "nasty basement".
**Larry's plan to send Chris to Florida was approved by Caden.
**Chris roleplayed as Sonichu at all times.
**Chris was still going after his high school gal-pals to the point of people needing to change their profiles.
**Chris was tazing himself out of fear that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen.
*It is often stated that [[Bella]] was a member of Praetor due to the fact that she was commissioned by them to create an animation, and the fact that Larry Vaughn cited her as such. Despite this, Bella was never involved in any of their other projects.

==[[Rocky Shoemaker]]==
*It was once written on Rocky's article that she had used BlueSky, and that Chris had blocked her account. In actuality this was an imposter account that was created with the intent on trolling Chris.

==[[Sylvana Rosechu]]==
*It is often mistakenly believed that Sylvana always had a penis. In reality, she started out as a female Rosechu, but Chris introduced the lore of being made intersex in [[Sonichu 8]], where she had the ability to give herself a penis or a vagina at will, as a component of her ability to shapeshift. This was a condition from Count Graduon that she lose her ability to give birth. Similar to Rosechu, however, Silvana was often portrayed with a penis by trolls to exploit Chris's distaste for [[Hermaphrodite|hermaphrodites]].
*It is sometimes stated that Sylvana Rosechu was created to represent all of the instances that Chris was catfished by trolls, with a scene in [[Sonichu 10]], where Chris is "trolled" by being seduced by her disguised as [[Meg Griffin]], often being brought up as evidence for this. However, Chris has also stated that his intention for that scene was that Sylvana was "all female" when she seduced him. Some of Chris's interactions with trolls also seem to indicate that Sylvana's ability was a result of troll influence. Chris has stated that he prefers to have fans draw her with a vagina instead of a penis, and the infamous drawing of her masturbating was a commission from [[Sarah May]], who bribed Chris to make the drawing and similar drawings to get his website back.

==[[Taser]]==
*It is believed by some that Praetor wanted to get Chris to tase himself. In actuality, Chris had discussed plans with Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[Kyle]] about plans to shock his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] quartz crystals in order to open up a portal to another dimension, citing a Gaia article about ancient civilizations using piezoelectricity to open up portals. Chris wanted to borrow a taser from Praetor to tase the crystals. Praetor was initially willing to allow him to use it under their supervision. The rumor that they wanted to get him to tase himself was first started by the Watchmen leader [[Naught]], who had posted out-of-context clips of Watchmen members talking to the founder and leader of Praetor, [[Caden Peck]], and alleging that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed". Naught had also left out a clip where the Watchman Val Valentino brought up the subject, and is asking if Chris would tase himself, and Caden Peck discussing how he felt it would be a bad idea. Interestingly, [[Isabella Janke]], a minor member of Praetor, had also spread a rumor that she had tried convincing Praetor members to get Chris to harm himself by getting him to cut his penis off, while claiming she was only "recruited".

==[[The Wallflower]]==
*The Wallflower policy appears sometimes to get conflated with the Suitress policy, where it is often stated that Fiona asked for people to censor her. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests to anyone.
*The Wallflower policy wasn't set up out of "respect" for the Wallflower, as the CWCki has no obligation to protect people arbitrarily; it was done as a personal request from her to CWCki admins after editors shared information about her that wasn't relevant to Chris; in addition to Chris persistently stating he was in a relationship with her; due to her unintentionally being associated with him. Additionally, the policy is primarily enforced solely on the CWCki and its Discord server.
*Contrary to popular belief, the Wallflower policy did allow users to utilize the Wallflower's identity to some degree, particularly if omitting such information might affect the clarity of information surrounding Chris. Many transcripts that didn't reference Chris being in a "relationship" with her were transcribed faithfully, utilizing her first name, and several pages on this wiki also still use art and images that utilize her face. The page [[CWCki:The Wallflower|meant to explain the Wallflower policy]] also admits that attempting to censor the Wallflower in full is not only impossible, but even detrimental to documenting Chris.
*Chris never referred to the Wallflower as "Lovely Weather". This misconception was a result of people assuming the [[Lovely Weather|character of the same name]] from the comics was based on the Wallflower. However, Chris has denied any connection between them.

==[[The WCT]]==

One of the primary members of the [[Watchmen]].

*It was initially written that The WCT wanted Chris to kill himself. This originated from a rumor spread by [[MKRNightVee]], his former associate in the Watchmen Discord server [[The Place]]. In June 2021, the [[Watchmen]] clique was infighting over [[Naught]] posting The WCT's dox onto Kiwi Farms. WCT responded by informing Chris, who left The Place. Angry over this development, MKR took to Twitter to spread a rumor that WCT "probably wants Chris to kill himself".<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref> A month later, the rumor was further spurred by Kiwi Farms forum posters, who assumed from both MKR's rumor and WCT's interactions with Bella (who had claimed on at least two occasions to want to get Chris to harm himself or commit suicide) that WCT was in on Bella's supposed plots. Despite this, no evidence has surfaced that WCT knew of Bella's claimed plots.
*It was initially written in a few articles that Chris had directly contributed to the mass doxing of Fiona by sharing one of her pictures with the WCT. Chris, although posting her photograph to him, would also refer to her by her pen name, "Fifi Vixenhart". The WCT wouldn't have become aware of her real name, or actually dox her, until later, when Bella had told him in the [[Regarding Chris]] chats that Fiona was the sole provider of fabricated texts where Chris states he's done BDSM on Barb while she was doxing her on multiple websites. The WCT would post one of Fiona's videos and use her first name, partially revealing her identity and bringing attention from trolls onto her.
*It was initially written that The WCT had been recruited into Bella's [[Chess Club]] Discord server. He had actually been invited into a separate server, [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]]. This error was based on mislabeled folders of Discord server chatlogs which were passed around on Kiwi Farms - the folders were labelled "Chess Club" and "Chess Club ft Fiona and CWC", however the actual content was [[Chess Club]] and [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]] chatlogs.
*The WCT is often misquoted as proclaiming himself as being "the final protagonist of Christory", which was often used as evidence for knowing that Chris was going to commit suicide. In actuality, in his boasting, he proclaimed himself as "'''one of the final''' protagonists", proclaiming that his work will be held in high regard in Geno's documentary, and be compared to figures such as [[Null]]. Additionally, he said this in reference to the Watchmen's belief that Barb's death would be the end of Christory, a belief that WCT had held strongly.
**Likewise, it was also believed that when he titled his pre-jail interview with Chris as the "Final Pre-Jail interview", he also meant this as knowing Chris was going to commit suicide, ignoring the fact that this was indeed the last interview he had with Chris before he went to jail.

==[[Transgender]]==

Chris' shift in gender identity and subsequent identification as a lesbian/bisexual transwoman has been a subject of intense debate and scrutiny within and outside of LGBT+ circles, with some believing that it is yet another act designed to enable him to shack up with lesbian women, and still others claiming that Chris openly admitted that this was the case. While the possibility of the former cannot be entirely discounted, no known admission of this nature has ever been made by Chris personally, and none of the assorted chat logs and correspondences leaked since Chris began his transition suggest this either.
*It is often stated that Chris admitted to adopting a [[transgender]] identity solely so that he could hook up with lesbians. This appears to be a confusion for an answer that Chris had posted to a question on [[OkCupid]], where he states that if he were to raise a "[[hermaphrodite]]", a term which he has used to refer to trans women, he'd raise them as a male so that they can pick up women (including lesbians).<ref group = note>The exact thing that Chris said, when answering whether or not intersex children should get surgery , was: "If a Hermaphrodite, I would raise it to be male regardless since it would not have any eggs anyway. Plus big bonus for (him) in sex with all women (lesbians included I would imagine)."</ref>
*Many suggest that "Christine" is a fake name. It is in fact his legal first name as of 2016. The CWCki, however, still uses "Chris" and (to a lesser extent) "Christian" for consistency.
*While Chris has shown early signs of dysphoria, going far back to his times at [[Manchester High]], these shouldn't be taken as a singular cause for it.

==[[Trolls]]==
*Some of Chris's trolls, particularly most of the Miscreants, are often represented as figures that tried to "help" Chris. It should be noted that any mention they make of this is mostly tongue-in-cheek, as their primary goal was that of any other Internet troll, to get a rise out of Chris.

==[[Watchmen]]==

*The Watchmen are often misleadingly referred to as an organization of enablers. In reality, the "Watchmen" were a clique of Chris's most prominent enablers and white knights, who had used several different Discord servers. The name "Watchmen" was created directly after some its members were discovered, and connected to previous groups such as [[Son of the Miscreants]] and [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]], as a sort of allusion to [[the Miscreants]]. The WCT, with the intent of cutting ties with the others in the "Watchmen", also dropped the name entirely when he established the Knights of CWC, which had a similar set-up, but a fundamentally different philosophy when handling Chris orbiters.

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Dodo Conservative: Most people from that area speak perfect English.

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==[[Affair with Mother]]==

*Many have come to believe that Chris had sexually assaulted his own mother when the news came out that he has had an incestuous affair with her following the leak of the infamous [[Incest Call]]. This notion would be perpetuated by several YouTubers and news panels, sometimes indirectly by claiming that Barb has dementia. Despite this, Chris has only ever been charged with "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD"<ref group = note>This charge appears to be used for all instances of parent-child and grandparent-grandchild incest at the jail Chris was sent to, probably due to character limits in the charge descriptions, as well as the fact that the text was likely generated from the numeric code for the offense.</ref> after this affair, and was never officially charged for rape or sexual assault.

Along with that, claims that Barbara had dementia had primarily came from begging videos where she could be playing up her frailty to elicit pity for money. (See: [[CWCki:Gossip#Barbara Chandler|Barbara Chandler]]). Therefore, whether or not this affair was entirely consensual is inconclusive.

==[[Anaxis]]==
*It is sometimes stated that Anaxis is female as a result of being referred to by she/her pronouns. However, this was only when he role-played as the character [[Lainchu]], who is female.


==[[Autism]]==
*It is common for observers to attempt to diagnose Chris as having "more than just autism", speculating what other types of disabilities or disorders he may have.
**It is also common to suggest that Chris couldn't possibly be autistic because of his sex drive, or conversely that the Love Quest is his way of overcompensating for the lack thereof. While asexuality (a lack of attraction to other people sexually, which isn't necessarily the same as a low sex drive, since asexuals can masturbate to pure sensation) is more common among autistic people, it is far from universal.
**Chris's lack of singing ability has been occasionally attributed to his autism. While a lack of control of inflections, or standard presentation thereof, is a common trait of autistic ''speech'', autistic people are actually more likely to excel in analyzing, hearing, imagining ("audiation"), and producing exact pitches, and are more likely to have perfect pitch.
**Some people claim that Chris was self-diagnosed. His [[Autism papers]] differ.
**Many also view mild autism as being synonymous with mild intellectual disability. However, autistics are often of normal or high intelligence. Chris's IQ is unknown.
**Chris has occasionally been accused of having a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Such a condition has neither been confirmed or denied. While Chris has occasionally hinted at believing cartoon characters to be real, he does clearly separate that "reality" from the actual reality by acknowledging them as existing in a separate dimension. While him seeing the characters might sound like Chris hallucinating, further analysis reveals that Chris is simply imagining them.
***While Chris post-jail has exhibited what some have identified as side-effects of ''anti''psychotics (such as mild sedation, rapid weight gain after losing most of it in prison, twitches that can't be explained as stims, etc.), those drugs are often prescribed as mere tranquilizers to people for a variety of reasons, including as an elective treatment for autistic irritability, and Chris never confirmed or denied taking them anyway.

==[[Autism disorder deferred disposition]]==
*Though Chris was dismissed from the case regarding his affair with Barb accounting for his autism, it should be noted he wasn't found innocent either. The records regarding the full scope of the case are sealed.

==[[Bailey Jay]]==
*It is often rumored that Chris was actually not disgusted by Bailey at all, and in fact was hitting on her. This appears to come from the fact that Chris still called her "pretty", even after discovering she was a "[[hermaphrodite]]", and the rather vague way he responded to her apologizing for accidentally sending him more nude photos after his initial shock. Though this isn't entirely impossible, it also hasn't been fully proven that this was the case.

==[[Barbara Chandler]]==
*It is often speculated by Christorians and observers that Barbara may have some degenerative brain disease, most often dementia. However, any official diagnosis of Barb's mental state is yet to be seen.
**It's worth noting that [[Guard Dogs|trusted sources]] have claimed to have talked to Barb, and have stated that she's pretending to be senile in order to get money<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)]]</ref>. While many of Chris and Barb's "begging" videos do show traits such as delayed speech or an apparent lapse of memory, other videos show Barb to be quite lucid, such as the few surviving clips of [[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]. However, it is worth noting that dementia is a condition where people may have "good" and "bad" days, or show more lucidity from time to time.

==[[Bob Chandler]]==
*Bob's rather complicated relationship with Chris is often times simplified into either being entirely good or entirely bad.
**It is sometimes stated that Bob had stopped caring about Chris at some point in his life, and only showed concern for his involvement with trolls for his own purposes. Such instances of this include supposedly paying Chris's high school gal-pals for their time with Chris, as well as his [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|intervention with Chris]] when trolls leaked their address online. These are based on speculation, however.
*One rumor is that Bob did Chris's college work for him, but isn't proven, and Chris's poor grades indicate otherwise.
*Bob is sometimes stated to be a Korean War veteran. This is incorrect. He served in the US Army Signal Corps during [[wikipedia:Operation Blacklist Forty|Operation Blacklist Forty]] — the American occupation of the southern half of Korea after World War II — and was discharged in 1948, never seeing combat.

==[[Caden Peck]]==
*It was believed for some time that Caden Peck had approved of Larry Vaughn's plan to send Chris to Florida, though this came from Vaughn reiterating what [[Bella]], who has been known to betray her associates (in this case Praetor) told him.
*It is often stated that Caden had staged some of the [[Sightings|Post-Jail sightings]] in order to promote sales towards Praetor, usually attributing accounts that post their photos to him posting them through the use of throwaway and sock puppet accounts on websites such as [[Reddit]] and [[Kiwi Farms]]. However, such claims come down to conjecture, and there are so far no confirmed cases of this.

==[[Clyde Cash]]==
*It is believed by some that the Clyde Cash persona was played by multiple people taken on by one identity. While several people would go under the name "Clyde Cash", mostly for completely unrelated plans, the original persona most associated with Christory was played by a single troll. This same troll would play as other characters in Christory, including [[Vivian Gee]], Gregg Mays, and [[Mao Ling]].



==[[Emergency Protective Order]]==

*Though the document lists Barb as a "victim", and ordered Chris to be taken away from Barb, who was deemed an "alleged abused person", Chris was still only charged for incest under Virginia Law, which doesn't specify a victim.

==[[Fiona Cooper]]==
Fiona Cooper, also known as Snoo or "The Suitress", was invited by Chris to join him and Bella to the [[Brony]] convention [[Everfree Northwest]]. Bella then invited Fiona into one of her Discord servers after she and Fiona were invited into The WCT's [[Knights of CWC]] server. After Bella had a call with Chris regarding his affair with his mother, she gave a clip of it to Fiona, who then shared it to a group of people in another server, causing it to get leaked.

*Much like with Chris, Fiona being autistic led to a flurry of misconceptions, with many sources putting great emphasis on this facet of her.
**It is sometimes stated that Fiona was mentally handicapped as a result of her being autistic. In actuality, autism is a spectrum, and affects those who have it differently, excelling in some areas over others; intellectual or otherwise. The belief that Fiona is mentally impaired appears to stem from the fact that [[Spooky Bones]] made a post on Kiwi Farms discouraging others from doxing Fiona, while calling her an "extremely autistic young woman". Despite such claims, nothing about Fiona indicates she's intellectually or otherwise mentally impaired.
**It is sometimes speculated that Chris supposedly didn't pursue Fiona because of her autism, citing his attraction sign, which explicitly stated that he didn't want an autistic girlfriend. This is ignoring the fact that said attraction sign was created 20 years before he met Fiona, and that Chris's tastes have drastically evolved over time.
**Fiona being autistic, combined with being framed by Bella, also led to the assumption of Fiona being a Chris-like figure, with some even going as far to claim she's more of a "vulnerable adult" than Chris is. This had led to the belief she was meant to serve as a "fall girl" and many of the other rumors mentioned in this section, with beliefs in her being mentally impaired leading to the assumption that she didn't have accountability in her involvement in Christory.
*It is a common belief that Fiona asked to be censored on the CWCki and elsewhere, with some accounts stating she changed her mind afterwards. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests in the first place, and even actively went against people's attempts at censoring her. The obfuscation of Fiona primarily arose from stigma surrounding her getting doxed followed by Bella framing her. Additionally, the Suitress policy on the CWCki was an entirely unilateral decision made by a single CWCki jerkop, [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] in response to this stigma. He also did not ask for the input of other users on the CWCki, nor did he ask Fiona personally if she wanted to be censored. Upon returning on a throwaway account on Reddit, Fiona both announced she was the "Everfree Suitress" and posted a picture of herself promoting her throwaway. The belief that she wanted censorship appears to stem from the fact that Psycho's inspiration for the policy was the Wallflower policy, where that actually did happen.
*It is a commonly held belief that Fiona wanted to be Chris's sweetheart. While she had admitted to having an actual crush on him, she had never actually stated to have a desire to be a sweetheart of his, or to be in a long-term relationship with him. She would claim in texts, however, that she was "fine with the friends with benefits thing" and that Chris considers her his "first real sweetheart".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Discussion of Incest]]</ref>
*Along with the first point, it is often speculated by observers why Chris supposedly didn't pursue a relationship with Fiona, and chose Barbara over her. In reality, Chris seemed to have held a rather conflicting standpoint towards her attraction towards him, claiming in chats and calls that he didn't see the relationship lasting long, forseeing that she'd meet a long-term sweetheart in college. However, Chris would also promise to her in a recording regarding Everfree Northwest not to be enraged at the G5 merchandise that may show up, and state that he "loved" her. He would also claim in a text that having sex with her would be the right step for her to take both for her "emotional and mental development". Fiona would also claim in a conversation with Bella that Chris was "embarressed and nervous" at the thought of his first real sweetheart. Chris would also refer to her by a pet name, "Fifi", that he had given to her in a [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022|jail letter]]. Along with all of that, Chris had been having his affair with his mother since late June, roughly a month before he ever met Fiona.
*It is often claimed that Bella wanted to film Chris having sex with Fiona for blackmail purposes, usually following that she'd do this to frame him as a [[pedofork|pedophile]]. This appears to be a rumor loosely based on two excerpts from the [[Incest Call]] and excerpts from leaked messages involving Bella. With regards to the Call, the first excerpt was where Bella discusses her friend [[Fiona]] (who held a crush on Chris) and tries to encourage Chris to pursue a relationship with her. In the second, Bella said she would create a slideshow of romantic stuff between Chris and Fiona during the [[Everfree Northwest]] convention festivities. Bella does not seem to actually state wanting to put any sexual content into the presentation. Adding onto that, Chris already discussed with Bella about the planned sexual intercourse he'd have with Fiona before she made the call. With regards to the leaked messages, Bella tried to create a cover story to protect Fiona when questioned by the Knights, claiming she was a minor. This was after the calls got leaked, and after plans for the convention were arranged, so it is unlikely that Bella intended to frame Chris of being a pedophile.
*It is sometimes stated that Fiona was a victim of sexual abuse, explaining certain factors such as her crush towards Chris. Though this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, this hasn't been fully confirmed. Additionally, since her account was deleted prior, some of the evidence for this came from Kiwi Farms users trying to attribute her to posts from deleted accounts on the CWCki's Discord server being referred to as "Snoo", her screenname on said server. This search for her posts also didn't account for the fact that she used a second account, which used an entirely different name, "ScootalooSister", after being banned from the server the first time.<ref group = note>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#The Suitress and Associates|Anaxis]] claims that Fiona wasn't aware she got banned prior to making the second account, though she also stated that people on there naturally "missed her".</ref>
**In addition to this, Bella is often cited to want to "steal" Fiona from Chris, often to represent it as her wanting to sexually assault her. Such claims, however, are based on out-of-context chats involving Bella stating that she became "besties" with Fiona, and swore to protect her from Chris.<ref>[[Chess club#More Bella Thirst]]</ref> This also ignores the fact that Fiona herself engaged in flirtatious behaviors with Bella, sending her a picture of both her face and legs, and telling Bella she "had sex with men", meaning that whatever feelings Bella had towards Fiona were entirely consensual.<ref>[[Chess club#Bella Thirst]]</ref> Bella had also stated that she only wanted to go to the convention to dance with Fiona at the Grand Galloping Gala event at the convention but otherwise hadn't expressed anything beyond that.<ref>[[Chess club#Everfree Dance]]</ref>
*It is often stated that Fiona was brought to a "mental hospital" or was "institutionalized" after her encounters with Chris, with the story usually stating it was a result of GiBi leaking her phone number or as a result of Bella framing her. Chris also repeated this rumor in an interview he had with Keffals. In actuality, this is an exaggeration made regarding events surrounding Fiona being told to the Mean Girls by her friend Grant. One of the Mean Girls had stated that Grant told them that Fiona had her internet privileges revoked, and "may have" been brought into inpatient psychiatric care.<ref>{{cite farms|thread = 96787|post = 9663622|writer = Basalas}}</ref> Grant seemed to have chosen not to give the exact details surrounding this, but this essentially means that Fiona was temporarily brought to therapy for a short period, likely overnight. This is not the same thing as being put in a "mental hospital".

==[[Flutter]]==
After Chris was released from Jail, he was spotted many times with an unnamed gal-pal, usually referred to as "Flutter". Often deemed as being one of the most mysterious aspects of Christory, several rumors surrounding her and her relations to Chris had naturally arisen afterwards.

*Some believe that Flutter was a recruit from [[Praetor]], though actual proof of this has yet to surface.
*It is often supposed that Flutter is Finnish (or perhaps Finnish-American) since Chris began studying Finnish in [[Duolingo]] for no particular reason around the time he met her and subsequently went to Finland multiple times with her. However, these factors cannot be classified as hard proof. Additionally, one observer stated that she had no noticeable foreign accent and other claimed that she spoke with an affected "anime girl" voice.
*It is sometimes stated that Flutter might be mentally handicapped. While this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, most of this comes down to conjecture than anything substantiated. This appears to be based on Chris's encounters with [[Fiona]], which had occurred under similar circumstances. One of the people who spotted Flutter with Chris claimed that she wasn't "noticeably" handicapped.
*It is claimed that Flutter frequented several Finnish image boards, though the identity of this poster hasn't been disclosed.
*It was once written on Flutter's page by the ween [[Xela]] that when she wore a facemask and sunglasses both to the airport and at a convention, she did this as a means to avoid attention from weens. Several other similar rumors about Flutter's face being obscured in photos would soon follow, with some even accusing those who took photos of her and Chris of being in cahoots with people like [[Caden Peck]].<ref group=note>There are a few photos of Flutter that do show her face, such as the image used in her infobox, so this is demonstrably false.</ref> Once again, while it is not entirely impossible that Flutter is trying to conceal her identity, almost all signs of this are circumstantial at best.
*Also on Flutter's page, it was written that there was a possibility that Flutter showed reciprocity for Chris when he allegedly "hugged" her at a CVS, stating that her body language "didn't indicate" reciprocity,<ref group = note>Specifically wording it like this not only assumes that it is known for a fact that Chris did advance on her, but also implies that because it hasn't been disproven, one could assume she expressed feelings back towards him.</ref> though this was based on a very blurry photo of them where not all of the details can be made out. This means it would be impossible to make out either of their body languages. While the person who took the photos had claimed that Flutter was uncomfortable with Chris's supposed advances, their claims have yet to be fully verified.
*Xela also knowingly spread a rumor that Chris and Flutter were going to have a baby some time in the summer of 2025 for the sole purpose of stirring up drama. He based this rumor on a misheard clip of a livestream. This rumor got promoted by several sources, including Null himself, so much so that it even made it onto tabloid media such as the ''Daily Mail''. In actuality, Chris had never discussed any such plans of having a child with Flutter, and was in fact speaking hypothetically of such a scenario.
*Flutter's first name is rumored to be "Auli" (an uncommon, old-fashioned Finnish woman's name) on the basis of a alleged call<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92TwU2gNZVA</ref> between a financial [[enabler]] and Chris posted to YouTube on 12 June 2025. In the call, the enabler tries to get Chris's guard down by asking him questions about [[Transformers|Autobots]] and [[Count Graduon]] before abruptly asking "Does Eileen know about this?", causing Chris to respond "Her name is Auli". Some have argued that the call was created using AI voice simulation tools or is otherwise inauthentic. Even if the call is authentic, it hasn't been confirmed that "Auli" is the correct spelling of the name.

==[[Gal pal]]==
*It is often asserted that Chris's high school "[[gal pal]]s" were paid by [[Bob]] to hang out with him during school hours and look out for him. Conversations between trolls and the former "friends" indicate that they had some kind of informal arrangement with Bob and the school principal, but there is no indication that they were ever paid for their services. When Chris was in middle school, however, Bob did pay a girl named Natasha to walk with him to and from the bus stop, with Chris handing her the money himself.<ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Natasha]]</ref>
*Chris himself now believes that his supposed friends were paid to hang out with him, causing him to disparage them as "hired help". This is based on a conversation he had with a troll who was posing as one of the friends in question. After he was told they had been paid, he asked [[Barbara]] if that was true and she told him it was. However, it is likely that Barb was never familiar with the details of the arrangement and may have had them confused with Natasha.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals]]</ref>
*People sometimes cite fake quotes from the troll [[Thetan]], who impersonated Chris' High School gal-pals, as evidence for them supposedly loathing Chris or regretting their friendships with him. It is also entirely unlikely that these gal-pals would have expressed any feelings about Chris' online presence, as they have long since moved on with their lives and have families.

==[[GiBi]]==
[[File:GiBi discusses Bella and the Suitress screenshot.png|thumb|200px|GiBi neglected to redact one of the phone numbers when showing screenshots (under red censor bar; screenshot was uncensored in his video). The number allegedly belonged to Fiona. This was the basis for much speculation.]]

GiBi, a semi-popular Christuber made a daily series regarding the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]] of Christory. He consulted several conflicting sources for information regarding the act, one of which was Bella. Bella tried to convince him that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", which GiBi argued for.

Bella also took screenshots of her DMs with Fiona and Chris and gave them to GiBi to leak. The screenshots included header information on names and phone numbers for both. When making a video on the screenshots, GiBi attempted to crop out the header information - while he succeeded at most, he neglected to crop two instances, leaving Fiona's phone number briefly visible. When told of this by Kiwi Farms users, GiBi promptly deleted the video and redid it to censor one instance, but failed to catch the other. When informed again, he again deleted the video. GiBi later posted the screenshots onto Kiwi Farms where he applied censorship to Fiona's phone number (and not Chris's).

*Before the uploading of the infamous video by him where he leaks Fiona's phone number, GiBi would mention on the Kiwi Farms about getting information on the leaks from a "friend" of his, alongside Bella. The "friend" that GiBi was talking to was presumed to be [[The WCT]]. In actuality, the friend was a CCCC user that went under the username "LavenderBonez" on that server, who seemed to be supportive of Fiona leaking a chunk of the incest call, even going as far as calling her a "hero".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#CCCC Incest Call Leak]]</ref>
*In its earliest form, [[GiBi]] had a section of the [[Orbiter Wave]] page, which initially covered people that were prominent during the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]]. In it, his leaking of Fiona's number was characterized as intentional from being prompted by Bella's disinformation. The section originally stated that ''Immediately accepting Bella's story that the entire scandal was the fault of Fiona, he then leaked Fiona's phone number in one of his videos for thousands to see.'' It appears to be speculation that there was a link between the phone number leak and Bella's story. The section was also revised to clarify that the leak was in the form of screenshots of text messages between Bella and Fiona in which a phone number was not redacted.


==[[Honor Roll]]==
*Whether Chris made the Honor Roll, or exactly what such a feat entailed around the time of his graduation, is unknown.

==[[Incest Call]]==
A key aspect regarding the drama that followed from Chris's affair had primarily come from how clips of this call had been leaked. So far, only four clips of varying lengths of this call had ever been leaked, all with various amounts of context. Because of this, many unproven claims regarding the people involved in the [[Incest]], [[Watchmen]], and [[Lainchu]] sagas have been heavily propagated.

*The date of the Call is unclear, which in turn has lead to gossip on what [[Bella]] wanted to do with the call. Evidence points to either 27 July 2021 or 28 July 2021 as the call date, however much of the evidence was from Bella's screenshots, and she has a history of creating [[Fabricated BDSM texts|fabricated texts at least once.]]

==[[Isabella Loretta Janke]]==
Isabella Loretta Janke is most known for her involvement in a call where Chris describes incestuous acts he's performed towards his mother. Before this, Bella had been in touch with Chris for almost a year, acting nice around him, while also showing many instances of A-logging or wishing harm towards him in Discord chats, sometimes outright claiming to want to make him harm himself. She would also roleplay as prior [[gal pal]]s like Kellie Andes and an employee for the Curiosity Stream, and has been known to encourage the verbal harassment and bullying of other students at her university. This edgy behavior would lead to many instances of misinformation or unproven claims resulting from the chaos around the [[Incest Call]], gossip on [[Kiwi Farms]], much of which was perpetuated by user [[Spooky Bones]], being taken at face value, and Bella's alleged plots towards Chris.
*It is often stated that Bella had convinced Chris to commit incest on his mother. In actuality, Bella was in a call with him, where Chris had discussed the matter openly with her. Chris had told her multiple times of instances of having an affair with a "sweetheart over 50", and had even admitted to having a wet dream of his mother in one other instance.
*It was initially written that Bella had a suicide plot towards Chris dating back to 25 April 2020. This was based on a Discord user, ZorgothTDK, who alleged that DMs between him and Bella, in which a Deleted User states "That's what we're trying to do with Chris [...] Get him be suicidal [...] Bc he's retarded", were Bella discussing Chris Chan. However, Bella knew of two other people named Chris - her cousin and another Discord user - making it unclear if she was referring to Chris Chan. Though ZorgothTDK claims that Bella was referring to Chris Chan, the full log of his conversation with the Deleted User makes no indication that Chris Chan was being discussed.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bella-janke-allegedly-planning-cwc-suicide-since-april-2020.97773/</ref> In addition, communication between Bella and Chris Chan has not been established for the time frame of April 2020 - [[Bella chats#Curiosity Stream|the earliest known message from Bella to Chris Chan occurred in October 2020]]. The exact time at which Bella had actually started interacting with Chris is not known, but she has claimed in one instance to have started trolling Chris for almost a year to one of her Chess Club associates in a July 2021 Discord message.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/servers-zip.2416454/ Zip file of Chess Club Discord leaks hosted at Kiwi Farms]. See "Chess club - chess" at 19-Jul-21 11:29 AM timestamp</ref> However, in two other instances, Bella would claim to a friend that she did have a plan to get Chris to kill himself in one instance,<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> and claim that she wanted Praetor members to convince him to cut off his penis in another, and hoping that he would die from a gender reassignment surgery accident.<ref name=animation>{{cite farms|thread=79414|post=8539683|title=YT 11/13/20 - Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation}}</ref>
*It was initially written that Bella had a blackmail plot involving the [[Incest Call]]. Usually this claim is in conjunction with the claim that Bella wanted to record Chris having sex with Fiona. While Bella had intended to leak the call after an unspecified point, and had created fake texts where Chris states he performed BDSM-style sex with Barb in the meantime, it is not known for sure if this would have involved blackmailing Chris.
*It was initially written that Bella self-assigned her bodyguard role for [[Everfree Northwest]], however Chris had assigned her the role.<ref>[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]</ref>
*It is believed by some that Bella had an incest fetish, part of the reason for her call with Chris. This would even be written a few times in articles that mention her. However, whether or not Bella was actually into incest is unclear. This in part seems to come from an incest fanfiction that she had allegedly created under the account '''narutoisgay77897''', which involves a father-son relationship between Naruto characters. However, the link between this account and Bella is unclear, and the account itself has "Im into engineering and electromagnetism and shit but u wont find any of that shit here, only gay hentai bitches." as its description, suggesting that it could be a troll account, if created by her. The account therefore cannot be used to prove this, as its legitimacy is questionable. A user by the name of '''Gungann''' would also continuously question Bella on this point, citing part of a transcription of her call with Chris which claims that she talked to Chris while aroused, though he doesn't give the source for this particular transcript, or where he was reading it from.
*It was once written on the [[Discord]] page that Bella was a member of the [[Discord#Official CWCki Server|Official CWCki Server]] before the call. This was loosely based off a policy on the server where mentioning or talking about her is prohibited, as moderators on the server were notified about harassment on the server, and were concerned of the possibility that either she or her friends would report the server if they found out that anyone was discussing her.

==[[Jail Saga]]==
*The letters that Chris had written in jail could not be used as evidence against him in court, as they were strictly his word.

==[[Jeff Ouzuo]]==
*Jeff/Francine did not create the ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'' fangame. It was the CWCki Forums user Maple. Because of Chris declaring this, several people came to believe that Jeff/Francine was Maple.



==[[Lainchu]]==
*The Lainchu character wasn't a troll persona. The character itself was created by Chris as a coping mechanism for the purpose of explaining certain events in his life. Chris entrusted the Watchmen to control Lainchu so that he could be "chronicled" properly. The Watchmen later used the persona with the intention of documenting select chats with his permission, and later for observers to ask him questions by proxy when he got banned from the CWCki Discord server.
*It was once written on [[The WCT]]'s page that he was the primary Lainchu, though this was incorrect. He had attempted to steal the role from [[Anaxis]] but Chris rejected the attempt.

==[[Liquid Chris]]==

*It is often stated that Liquid Chris was a single person. In actuality, Liquid was played by a set of twins, Christopher and Jon Duckworth. While Christopher played as Chris in Youtube videos and PVCC chats, Jon played Liquid during the Sing-Star Challenge.
*While [[The Miscreants]] (group of trolls including the one behind Clyde Cash) would claim Liquid Chris, the brothers and girlfriend behind Liquid Chris and Kacey alike appear to have started their trolling independently, after Christopher Duckworth began comically impersonating Chris Chan.
*Liquid Chris started impersonating Chris a month before the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, and was barely influenced by this video.

==[[Megan Schroeder]]==
*It is often stated that Chris ruined his friendship with her by posting [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. In reality, their friendship had already been long deteriorating at that point; [[Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007|email correspondences]] from that period show that Megan was already getting sick of Chris's creepy behavior and [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] have stated that Megan was already avoiding Chris before the photo was posted online. SheCameForCWC.jpg was just the point where things came to such a head that Megan was forced to cut off all contact with Chris.
*It later surfaced that Chris did not shred the physical copy of SheCameForCWC.jpg before placing it in the [[Crumple-Lope]], but neatly cut it into squares.
*It is often stated that Megan was the only legitimate female friend that Chris had that wasn't a troll. While Megan is the most well-known one, this is ignoring people in Chris's life like [[Anna McLerran]], [[The Wallflower]], [[Fiona Cooper]], the [[Pokémon League friends]], [[Tings Tingz]], [[MKRNightVee]], [[Helena Fiorenza]], [[Midnight Moonflower]], and [[Flutter]].

==[[Michael Snyder]]==
*There is no evidence that Michael is Jewish, either by faith or ethnicity. This came from Chris believing him to be such due to his last name.
*The now-deleted YouTube account TheRcholic claimed to be Michael in comments which he left on multiple videos by Chris. It is unclear whether this account really was Michael or if it was someone posing as him. On 6 [[June 2010]], TheRcholic left a comment about an encounter he was having with Chris at [[The GAMe PLACe]] "right now". Chris subsequently confirmed that an encounter had taken place, seemingly confirming the account's legitimacy, although in Chris's telling it had happened the previous Friday, 4 June, after [[Fridays After Five]]. TheRcholic also claimed that Chris had used the word "[[Niggo|nigger]]" to refer to black patrons of The GAMe PLACe prior to his banning, an allegation which is otherwise unsubstantiated.

==[[Monthly Tugboat]]==
*It was previously written on the page that Chris would earn more money overall if he got an actual job and didn't rely solely on the tugboat. This however was built off of a number of assumptions and speculative information.
*Bob did not actually believe that Chris would make more money off of the Tugboat, and actually was hoping that Chris would find actual employment, expressing being impressed at Chris's computer literacy and him obtaining two CADD degrees.<ref>[[Bob Call 6]]</ref>

==[[Niggos]]==
*Chris had never said the word "nigger" outside of troll interference. He also never said the phrase "no darkies". This came from a piece of fan art parodying his attraction sign.

==[[OfficialCWCmart]]==
*It is often said that Chris only makes 7% off of the sales from OfficialCWCMart. However, this estimate conflates his royalty from the Praetor-made medallions with the stuff that he makes himself. It is currently unknown how much of the content sold on the Etsy was from Chris collaborating with Praetor.

==[[Pedofork]]==
*Although not impossible, all evidence of Chris being a pedophile so far comes from untrustworthy sources or instances where trolls pressured him into saying such things, so it is unwise to assume so.

==[[Praetor]]==
*[[Larry Vaughn]]'s claims about Praetor were once written on their article. However, he based these claims off of things that were said verbatim by [[Bella]], a known habitual liar who has on several occasions lied about her own associates. A few such claims include:
**Praetor were a group of trolls akin to the [[Idea Guys]] or the [[Teen Troon Squad]]
**They produced a lot of their merchandise in a "nasty basement".
**Larry's plan to send Chris to Florida was approved by Caden.
**Chris roleplayed as Sonichu at all times.
**Chris was still going after his high school gal-pals to the point of people needing to change their profiles.
**Chris was tazing himself out of fear that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen.
*It is often stated that [[Bella]] was a member of Praetor due to the fact that she was commissioned by them to create an animation, and the fact that Larry Vaughn cited her as such. Despite this, Bella was never involved in any of their other projects.

==[[Rocky Shoemaker]]==
*It was once written on Rocky's article that she had used BlueSky, and that Chris had blocked her account. In actuality this was an imposter account that was created with the intent on trolling Chris.

==[[Sylvana Rosechu]]==
*It is often mistakenly believed that Sylvana always had a penis. In reality, she started out as a female Rosechu, but Chris introduced the lore of being made intersex in [[Sonichu 8]], where she had the ability to give herself a penis or a vagina at will, as a component of her ability to shapeshift. This was a condition from Count Graduon that she lose her ability to give birth. Similar to Rosechu, however, Silvana was often portrayed with a penis by trolls to exploit Chris's distaste for [[Hermaphrodite|hermaphrodites]].
*It is sometimes stated that Sylvana Rosechu was created to represent all of the instances that Chris was catfished by trolls, with a scene in [[Sonichu 10]], where Chris is "trolled" by being seduced by her disguised as [[Meg Griffin]], often being brought up as evidence for this. However, Chris has also stated that his intention for that scene was that Sylvana was "all female" when she seduced him. Some of Chris's interactions with trolls also seem to indicate that Sylvana's ability was a result of troll influence. Chris has stated that he prefers to have fans draw her with a vagina instead of a penis, and the infamous drawing of her masturbating was a commission from [[Sarah May]], who bribed Chris to make the drawing and similar drawings to get his website back.

==[[Taser]]==
*It is believed by some that Praetor wanted to get Chris to tase himself. In actuality, Chris had discussed plans with Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[Kyle]] about plans to shock his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] quartz crystals in order to open up a portal to another dimension, citing a Gaia article about ancient civilizations using piezoelectricity to open up portals. Chris wanted to borrow a taser from Praetor to tase the crystals. Praetor was initially willing to allow him to use it under their supervision. The rumor that they wanted to get him to tase himself was first started by the Watchmen leader [[Naught]], who had posted out-of-context clips of Watchmen members talking to the founder and leader of Praetor, [[Caden Peck]], and alleging that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed". Naught had also left out a clip where the Watchman Val Valentino brought up the subject, and is asking if Chris would tase himself, and Caden Peck discussing how he felt it would be a bad idea. Interestingly, [[Isabella Janke]], a minor member of Praetor, had also spread a rumor that she had tried convincing Praetor members to get Chris to harm himself by getting him to cut his penis off, while claiming she was only "recruited".

==[[The Wallflower]]==
*The Wallflower policy appears sometimes to get conflated with the Suitress policy, where it is often stated that Fiona asked for people to censor her. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests to anyone.
*The Wallflower policy wasn't set up out of "respect" for the Wallflower, as the CWCki has no obligation to protect people arbitrarily; it was done as a personal request from her to CWCki admins after editors shared information about her that wasn't relevant to Chris; in addition to Chris persistently stating he was in a relationship with her; due to her unintentionally being associated with him. Additionally, the policy is primarily enforced solely on the CWCki and its Discord server.
*Contrary to popular belief, the Wallflower policy did allow users to utilize the Wallflower's identity to some degree, particularly if omitting such information might affect the clarity of information surrounding Chris. Many transcripts that didn't reference Chris being in a "relationship" with her were transcribed faithfully, utilizing her first name, and several pages on this wiki also still use art and images that utilize her face. The page [[CWCki:The Wallflower|meant to explain the Wallflower policy]] also admits that attempting to censor the Wallflower in full is not only impossible, but even detrimental to documenting Chris.
*Chris never referred to the Wallflower as "Lovely Weather". This misconception was a result of people assuming the [[Lovely Weather|character of the same name]] from the comics was based on the Wallflower. However, Chris has denied any connection between them.

==[[The WCT]]==

One of the primary members of the [[Watchmen]].

*It was initially written that The WCT wanted Chris to kill himself. This originated from a rumor spread by [[MKRNightVee]], his former associate in the Watchmen Discord server [[The Place]]. In June 2021, the [[Watchmen]] clique was infighting over [[Naught]] posting The WCT's dox onto Kiwi Farms. WCT responded by informing Chris, who left The Place. Angry over this development, MKR took to Twitter to spread a rumor that WCT "probably wants Chris to kill himself".<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref> A month later, the rumor was further spurred by Kiwi Farms forum posters, who assumed from both MKR's rumor and WCT's interactions with Bella (who had claimed on at least two occasions to want to get Chris to harm himself or commit suicide) that WCT was in on Bella's supposed plots. Despite this, no evidence has surfaced that WCT knew of Bella's claimed plots.
*It was initially written in a few articles that Chris had directly contributed to the mass doxing of Fiona by sharing one of her pictures with the WCT. Chris, although posting her photograph to him, would also refer to her by her pen name, "Fifi Vixenhart". The WCT wouldn't have become aware of her real name, or actually dox her, until later, when Bella had told him in the [[Regarding Chris]] chats that Fiona was the sole provider of fabricated texts where Chris states he's done BDSM on Barb while she was doxing her on multiple websites. The WCT would post one of Fiona's videos and use her first name, partially revealing her identity and bringing attention from trolls onto her.
*It was initially written that The WCT had been recruited into Bella's [[Chess Club]] Discord server. He had actually been invited into a separate server, [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]]. This error was based on mislabeled folders of Discord server chatlogs which were passed around on Kiwi Farms - the folders were labelled "Chess Club" and "Chess Club ft Fiona and CWC", however the actual content was [[Chess Club]] and [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]] chatlogs.
*The WCT is often misquoted as proclaiming himself as being "the final protagonist of Christory", which was often used as evidence for knowing that Chris was going to commit suicide. In actuality, in his boasting, he proclaimed himself as "'''one of the final''' protagonists", proclaiming that his work will be held in high regard in Geno's documentary, and be compared to figures such as [[Null]]. Additionally, he said this in reference to the Watchmen's belief that Barb's death would be the end of Christory, a belief that WCT had held strongly.
**Likewise, it was also believed that when he titled his pre-jail interview with Chris as the "Final Pre-Jail interview", he also meant this as knowing Chris was going to commit suicide, ignoring the fact that this was indeed the last interview he had with Chris before he went to jail.

==[[Transgender]]==

Chris' shift in gender identity and subsequent identification as a lesbian/bisexual transwoman has been a subject of intense debate and scrutiny within and outside of LGBT+ circles, with some believing that it is yet another act designed to enable him to shack up with lesbian women, and still others claiming that Chris openly admitted that this was the case. While the possibility of the former cannot be entirely discounted, no known admission of this nature has ever been made by Chris personally, and none of the assorted chat logs and correspondences leaked since Chris began his transition suggest this either.
*It is often stated that Chris admitted to adopting a [[transgender]] identity solely so that he could hook up with lesbians. This appears to be a confusion for an answer that Chris had posted to a question on [[OkCupid]], where he states that if he were to raise a "[[hermaphrodite]]", a term which he has used to refer to trans women, he'd raise them as a male so that they can pick up women (including lesbians).<ref group = note>The exact thing that Chris said, when answering whether or not intersex children should get surgery , was: "If a Hermaphrodite, I would raise it to be male regardless since it would not have any eggs anyway. Plus big bonus for (him) in sex with all women (lesbians included I would imagine)."</ref>
*Many suggest that "Christine" is a fake name. It is in fact his legal first name as of 2016. The CWCki, however, still uses "Chris" and (to a lesser extent) "Christian" for consistency.
*While Chris has shown early signs of dysphoria, going far back to his times at [[Manchester High]], these shouldn't be taken as a singular cause for it.

==[[Trolls]]==
*Some of Chris's trolls, particularly most of the Miscreants, are often represented as figures that tried to "help" Chris. It should be noted that any mention they make of this is mostly tongue-in-cheek, as their primary goal was that of any other Internet troll, to get a rise out of Chris.

==[[Watchmen]]==

*The Watchmen are often misleadingly referred to as an organization of enablers. In reality, the "Watchmen" were a clique of Chris's most prominent enablers and white knights, who had used several different Discord servers. The name "Watchmen" was created directly after some its members were discovered, and connected to previous groups such as [[Son of the Miscreants]] and [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]], as a sort of allusion to [[the Miscreants]]. The WCT, with the intent of cutting ties with the others in the "Watchmen", also dropped the name entirely when he established the Knights of CWC, which had a similar set-up, but a fundamentally different philosophy when handling Chris orbiters.

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{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}

{{quote|I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than [[Borb|your fossilized parents]] could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child [[Creepy stare|creeping out]] all the other [[Pokémon|pokemon]] kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an [[Chris and anger|angry]], [[Chris and contests|unsportsmanlike]] punk.|Michael Snyder, responding to Chris's [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video.}}

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| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
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'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment from an account posing as him claims that he is not. However, there is no way for a layperson to confirm.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point." Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, "I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk."<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account which trolls used to pose as Michael Snyder, in order to instigate further drama between him and Chris by commenting on some of the latter's videos. The account name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that took place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. Given the high level of unprofessional behavior by "Michael", it is nigh certain that this was an impersonator on the phone. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

2025-12-19T17:29:39Z

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{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}

{{quote|I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than [[Borb|your fossilized parents]] could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child [[Creepy stare|creeping out]] all the other [[Pokémon|pokemon]] kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an [[Chris and anger|angry]], [[Chris and contests|unsportsmanlike]] punk.|Michael Snyder, responding to Chris's [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video.}}

{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment supposedly from him claims that he is not, but this was almost certainly a fake account.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point." Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, "I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk."<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account which trolls used to pose as Michael Snyder, in order to instigate further drama between him and Chris by commenting on some of the latter's videos. The account name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that took place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. Given the high level of unprofessional behavior by "Michael", it is nigh certain that this was an impersonator on the phone. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

2025-12-19T17:28:08Z

Dodo Conservative: No damn way that was real. No. Just no.

{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}

{{quote|I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than [[Borb|your fossilized parents]] could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child [[Creepy stare|creeping out]] all the other [[Pokémon|pokemon]] kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an [[Chris and anger|angry]], [[Chris and contests|unsportsmanlike]] punk.|Michael Snyder, responding to Chris's [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video.}}

{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment supposedly from him claims that he is not, but this could well have been a fake account.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point." Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, "I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk."<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' is a now-deleted YouTube account which trolls used to pose as Michael Snyder, in order to instigate further drama between him and Chris by commenting on some of the latter's videos. The account name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold.

On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared.

In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that took place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. Given the high level of unprofessional behavior by "Michael", it is nigh certain that this was an impersonator on the phone. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

2025-12-19T17:19:07Z

Dodo Conservative:

{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}

{{quote|I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than [[Borb|your fossilized parents]] could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child [[Creepy stare|creeping out]] all the other [[Pokémon|pokemon]] kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an [[Chris and anger|angry]], [[Chris and contests|unsportsmanlike]] punk.|Michael Snyder, responding to Chris's [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video.}}

{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider", which often belongs to Ashkenazi Jews but is not specifically a Jewish-German surname, and can just connote German descent. Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment supposedly from him claims that he is not, but this could well have been a fake account.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point." Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, "I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk."<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' was a now-deleted YouTube account which was supposedly used by Michael Snyder to comment on some of Chris's videos. The account name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold.

It is not fully clear if the account was indeed owned by Michael, or if it was the work of trolls posing as him - it was most likely the latter. On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared. In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that took place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. If the call was legitimate, it shows a level of unprofessional behavior by Michael. It was more likely an impersonator. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Michael Snyder

2025-12-19T17:16:38Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Years of hatred */

{{Protip|It is not confirmed whether or not Michael Snyder is Jewish, either in ethnicity or in faith.}}

{{quote|I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than [[Borb|your fossilized parents]] could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child [[Creepy stare|creeping out]] all the other [[Pokémon|pokemon]] kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an [[Chris and anger|angry]], [[Chris and contests|unsportsmanlike]] punk.|Michael Snyder, responding to Chris's [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video.}}

{{infobox Person
| title = Michael Snyder
| image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg
| size = 250px
| name = Michael John Snyder

| gender = [[MALE]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| race = White
| religion = Judaism (according to Chris)
| occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011) Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)
| saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
|}}

'''Michael John "Mike" Snyder''' is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; "Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the German surname "Schneider". Whether he is actually Jewish is not known; a YouTube comment supposedly from him claims that he is not, but this could well have been a fake account.

Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a "bastard,"<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]</ref> a "[[JERKS|jerk]],"<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref> a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew,"<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> "cold-hearted and mean,"<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref> a "sonofabitch,"<ref>[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]</ref> and "[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]."<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]</ref>

In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].

Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.

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==At the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[List of places that have banned Chris|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}

Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.

The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]<ref>This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.</ref> was a shouting match with a [[Chris and race#Black people|black]] kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he "was looking for any reason to ban him at this point." Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, "I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk."<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.

==Years of hatred==
{{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}
[[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|left|200px|An artist's impression of Michael Snyder as an antisemitic caricature with spider-like attributes.]]
[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|right|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]

Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write "Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]" on it. This so-called "Wii incident," Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.

On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that "Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store."<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref> In December 2013, his explanation was, "he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref> At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.

Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling "Jew"]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.

Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. "What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!," he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael "GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,"
[[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:

{{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}

On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a [[Reeb|beer]], then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented "Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it." The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, "YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!" He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.<ref>[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>

Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref> He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, "I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself."<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref> On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while "unarmed" and alone.<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>

==Shit gets real==
{{main|28 October 2011}}

{{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have "C-Ville" in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.

That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]</ref>}}

On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys," newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.

The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a "thieving liar" '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.<ref>[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]</ref>

In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.
{{-}}

==The hatred continues==
{{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]

Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. "Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls." What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a "trap" by posting a sign saying that there was a "new owner," inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael.

As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the "trap" Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, "the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:

{{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with "Relax, I'm not going to hurt you" in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own "restraining order."<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]</ref>}}

Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.

By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's "get-rich-quick scheme" of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.<ref>[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]</ref> Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and, due to Chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.

As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|"Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car" is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].<ref>[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]</ref>

==TheRcholic==
'''TheRcholic''' was a now-deleted YouTube account which was supposedly used by Michael Snyder to comment on some of Chris's videos. The account name references remote-controlled toys (or, more accurately, an addict to said toys), which the PLACe also sold.

It is not fully clear if the account was indeed owned by Michael, or if it was the work of trolls posing as him - it was most likely the latter. On [[6 June 2010]], TheRcholic posted a YouTube comment claiming to have had an encounter with Chris "right now", and the comment was apparently followed by a video Chris uploaded giving details on the encounter. However, Chris and TheRcholic give different dates for when the encounter occurred, with Chris saying it took place days beforehand. TheRcholic's comment was also not properly archived, so timestamps cannot be compared. In August 2010, a self-identified Chris troll apparently called The GAMe PLACe to interview Michael, who said that he was working on posting a YouTube comment as TheRcholic.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjF90Q7JFA</ref> Notably, the apparent call occurred at Michael's place of work, and involved Michael using company time to gossip about Chris with one of his trolls. Michael also seemingly taunts Chris by "inviting" him to a ''Pokémon'' tournament that took place at the store on August 22, and implies that the reason for Chris making the Greene County Conspiracy video was mere emotional blackmail to be allowed back in The GAMe PLACe. If the call was legitimate, it shows a level of unprofessional behavior by Michael. It was more likely an impersonator. The account had been deleted by 2014.

Several of TheRcholic's comments were archived by the Wayback Machine<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> and some copied by hand. Of those, many consist of [[ween]]ing-type messages which insult or mock Chris or his parents and encourage others to harass Chris, again showing highly unprofessional behavior.

On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.
I am happy to take you on.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.
Mike}}

{{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because Black and Nigger almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike 
Elvis has left the building}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.
Mike}}

In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'

{{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}

After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:

{{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:

{{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk. 
Signed, 
That goddamn Michael Snyder}}

==See also==
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
*[[6 June 2010]]
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]

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Dodo Conservative: /* 2008 */

{{Quote|I want a girlfriend for Christmas, now and forevermore. 
I want a girlfriend for Christmas, so I won’t be lonely anymore. 
She should be 18-22. 
And she ought to be [[Boyfriend-free girl|Boyfriend-Free]] too.|Chris, 2004 ("[[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]]")}}

[[Image:MerryCWCmas.jpg|right|thumb|Merry C-Mas to all the [[troll]]s, [[JERKS]], [[homos]], and [[jerkop]]s out there!]]
[[File:HollyOCChristmas.jpg|right|thumb|Every Christmas is an [[OC]] Christmas.]]

'''Christmas''' or, as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] once [[CWC-isms|called it]], '''C-Mas''',<ref>[[Sonichu's News Dash]] - "The Christmas season is upon us, and with that comes the rush for the C-Mas Turkey[.]"</ref> is one of our hero's favorite holidays. He's often mentioned it in his comics and videos.

==Christmas in the Chandler family==
[[Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|right|thumb|Bob and li'l Chris remembering Jesus.]]
{{quote|We celebrate like normal; a decorated tree, get-together, remembering [[Jesus]] and all.|ChrisChanSonichu, [[Mailbag 2#Holidays with the Chandlers|Mailbag #2]].}}

Barbara's extended family holds (or at least used to hold) Christmas gatherings, probably in Red Oak or the Richmond area. The Chandlers used to attend these, but they stopped doing so at some point, possibly after the death of [[Aunt Corrina]] in 2009. [[Cole Smithey]] used to attend these gatherings as well but apparently stopped sometime after 2004. As of 2007, he would spend the holidays with his wife's family in California.<ref>[[Cole Smithey E-mails]]</ref>

As such, Chris normally spent Christmas with just [[Barbara]] and (before his passing) [[Bob]].

As evidenced by videos like [[100 2281]] and [[Tour of Chris's House]], the Chandlers kept a Christmas tree and decorations in their [[kitchen]] year-round because they were too lazy to take them down.

[[File:CWCmasStockings.jpg|right|thumb|The stockings were hung from the chimney with care.]]

{{Incomplete}}

==Santa Clause==
[[Image:ChrisSanta.jpg|right|thumb|Chris wishes he were as much of a man as Mr. "Clause" is.]]
[[File:0072-Chrisian&Santa.jpg|thumb|Chris and Santa at Chick-fil-A.]]
[[File:Pickle tree.jpg|thumb|A must for the discerning troll.]]

{{quote|[2008-12-15 07::03:20] EXKeine: Christmas is coming up, so... do you believe in Santa Claus? [2008-12-15 07::03:40] ChrisChanSonichu: yep.|Chris on Santa Clause [sic], [[IRC (15 December 2008)]].}}
{{quote|It’s been over a week since my [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of college|SUSPENSION]]; I am [[Stress|DEPRESSED]], [[Love Quest|LONELY]], SAD and BORED! I have [[Attraction Location|nowhere to go]] to attract a [[Boyfriend-free girl|Boyfriend-Free woman]]. I’ll be writing to Santa Clause [sic] this year, hoping that will bring me one. (8(|[[CWC's Diary]] for September 26, 2004, Chris acting like the 22-year-old grown-up man he is.}}
{{quote|Or for— since it's Christmas time, let's make like I'm Mister— yo' Misses Claus. I have a...good ole heat, 'cuz I took...a bit o'...[[Chris and sex|Viagra]]. Bam, ba-bam, bam, ho, ho-OH!|Chris RPing as The Man, [[iPods Down and Listen Up]].}}
{{quote|I did not say that I was taking Viagra; I was stating that in that role-play, Santa would be taking that.|Chris, [[Mailbag 20#Viagra roleplay and something about Santa Claus|Mailbag #20]], on Kris Kringle's erectile dysfunction.}}

"Santa Clause" [[Chris and English|[sic]]] (not to be confused with [[wikipedia:The Santa Clause|the Tim Allen movie that uses this spelling]]) is a legendary character associated with Christmas, whom many Western children believe in.

According to surveys, most of these same children stop believing in Santa around the age of eight, often when they find out it was actually [[Borb|their parents]] playing the role of Jolly St. Nick. However, Chris claims that [[Chris and reality|he still believes]] in "Santa Clause" [sic], despite being over 40. He even put Santa's name on his [[JERKS#The List Of Males Chris Doesn't Hate|List Of Males Chris Doesn't Hate]], which may imply that he: a) believes "Santa Clause" [sic] is real, b) believes Santa is a manly male man capable of landing himself a girlfriend (see also the [[Mailbag 20#Viagra roleplay and something about Santa Claus|Mailbag quote]] above). Also worth of note is the fact that Chris chose to put Santa's name on the list before [[God]] and [[Jesus]]...because, come on, these two [[JERKS]] never brought him even the tiniest presents!

Of course, all this doesn't necessarily mean that Chris actually ''does'' believe in Santa. Chris probably maintains this line because he ''wants'' to believe it and maintain memories of the happy Christmases of his childhood. For Chris, who still plays with da [[Lego]]s, professing a belief in Santa is "cute" and shows that he is "young at heart", one of his favorite traits.

In [[2002]], at 20 years of age, Chris wrote a letter to Santa via the local ''Daily Progress'' newspaper. In the letter, Chris asked Santa for a video game for himself, gifts for his relatives, and also to make [[Sonichu]] real.<ref name=dailyprogress>[[Chris in the media#Daily Progress]]</ref>

In a [[2010]] e-mail exchange with [[Jackie]], Chris stated that he [[Honor roll|learned]] Santa wasn't real around age fifteen or sixteen, but finally "gave up on him" at 24 after he failed to bring him a girlfriend for the third year in a row.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails]]</ref>

However, in a [[September 2018]] tweet, Chris indicated that he maintained a belief in Santa.<ref>[[September 2018 social media posts#Santa Clause is real]]</ref> Chris was 36 years old when he made the comment.

{{quotebox|Santa Clause has always been real; you just need to always keep an open mind and an open heart. Never close yourself off, because anything is possible.}}

Chris almost certainly maintains this belief as he has slid further and further into his delusions about [[Dimensional Merge|alternate]] [[dimensions]] and that all [[OC|fictional characters]] are real.

==Presents Chris gives, wishes for, and receives==
[[Image:0086-Christmas95-1.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas '95]]
[[Image:0128-Christmas96-6.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas '96]]

{{quote|My father likes Brach's Maple Nut Goodies, and my mother likes chocolate, so some edible treats of that variety is [[Obesity|a good suggestion]].|[[Mailbag 6#For the man who has everything|Mailbag #6]], on what he planned to give his parents for Christmas, 2009.}}

==Christmas-related songs and merch==
Chris also got the name of his [[Lovely Weather|future wife]] from singing a 1950's Christmas song over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, which actually [[Autism|says a lot about him]].

He also seems to have an affinity for the song "[[Wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]", as he raged like an idiot because the word [[homos|gay]] should only be used in context of "happy", as in the song when it says, "Don we now our [[Chris and fashion|gay apparel]]."<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

==Other confessions==
Being the totally sensitive and tolerant person he is, Chris in his ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' Christmas special (the [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas|text]] and [[Sonichu 11|comic]] versions) mentions the ways [[CWCville]] citizens of different faiths (that is, "Jewish folk", Buddhists, possibly [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black people]], and "a few humbuggers") celebrate their own wacky versions of Christmas. In 2019, he referred to the holiday season as ''ChristmaHannuaKwanzaka''.<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts]]</ref>

===Hanukkah/Chanukkah===
{{quote|Cera continues with a question, holding a cookie in a zip-loc bag, "I've invited Kevin too; do you think he'll like this candle-shaped cookie I made for him? He told me he was Jewish, and I thought it would be appropriate." Rosechu replies, "I think he'll love it. You have made it really special with the white frosting for the wax and the yellow for the flame. Uh, what kind of cookie was it again?" "Vanilla", replies Cera, "I felt it best to keep it neutral, in case he was allergic to the peanut butter or chocolate." "Very Smart," says Rosechu with a smile, exchanging a high-five with Cera.|''[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]]'', Act I}}

"[[IRC (22 December 2008)|Haunaka]]"/"[[IRC (22 December 2008)|Chaunaka]]"/"[[Holiday Greetings|Konica]]"/"[[Shout out to Fans in Hospital|Chanukkah]]"/whatever, is a holiday [[CWCville]] "Jewish folk" celebrate while most other citizens celebrate Christmas. On December 12, members of the CWCville Jewish diaspora set up "Menorah candles" (the "Haunaka" [sic] Menorah candelabrum has 7 candles in it, while the traditional Menorah used on Hanukkah, called a "Hanukkiah", has 9) instead of Christmas Trees, with dreidels lying under them. Since the candle-related symbolism is very much present in Hanukkah rituals, it's in good taste to give CWCville Jews anything candle-related as a gift. E.g., when [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]'s daughter [[Cerah Rosey]] baked cookies for her friends, she decided to make her Jewish friend Kevin a candle-shaped one. This is another small example of Chris's naivety as a cookie of any shape would have likely been appreciated. That Cerah couldn't choose a more obvious Hanukkah symbol (such as a Menorah or a dreidel) over a ''generic candle'' shows that Cerah has extremely poor knowledge of even the most basic of Jewish traditions known in the Gentile world.

In fact, there actually is a tradition of eating ''fried'' foods on Hanukkah, and vanilla is one of the allowed ingredients used in making them. Not that Chris knows anything about this, mind you - he just wanted to make sure that the cookie was hypoallergenic.

In [[IRC (22 December 2008)]] Chris listed "Haunaka" and "Chaunaka" as two different holidays, probably belonging to different religions. In his [[Shout out to Fans in Hospital]], he does nearly the same thing, saying "happy Hanukkah, Chanukkah, all the other holidays to everybody of other religions".

===Jolly Buddah [sic]===
{{quote|Christmas Trees are abound most everywhere: in the homes of the townfolk, [[CWCville Mall|in the stores]], [[CWCville Mayoral Office|in the offices]], and the biggest one in the center of [[McIntire Park|CWC-Central Park]]. Some have Menorah Candles, or even a Jolly Buddah [sic].|[[Sonichu 11|A Sonichu Christmas]] (the comic version)}}
{{quote|All the churches are full with all the believers, be they Christians, Jewish folk, Buddhists, and such.|[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]] (the text version)}}

From what we know, Buddhism is one of the religions Chris tolerates, and so he sometimes mentions it as a display of his "religious sensitivity". However, he probably doesn't know jack shit about Buddhism, and assumes that since Buddhists are all "good-hearted believers", they undoubtedly should celebrate Christmas in some way! So, in [[CWCville]], Buddhists celebrate their Buddhist Christmas by going to their Buddhist churches on starting December 12, and having a "Jolly Buddah" instead of a Christmas Tree.

By coincidence, Christmas is actually a popular holiday in some primarily Buddhist countries (such as [[anime|Japan]]). However, it's rare for celebrators to give the time special religious significance specific to their religion. Similar to how Halloween is celebrated in America based solely on the customs with practically no emphasis on the religious practices that started the holiday, so too do many Buddhists enjoy Christmas just as an excuse to put up lights, give each other gifts and participate in the same customs other people enjoy.

===Kwanzaa/Kawanza [sic]===
[[File:Son11p21.jpg|thumb|300px|Suffice to say, Blake is not a fan of Kwanzaa. Or black people, for that matter.]]

Little is known of what Chris thinks about [[Wikipedia:Kwanzaa|"Kawanza"]] [sic] and the related rituals, except that he [[IRC (22 December 2008)|once]] congratulated his [[trolls]] with this holiday (among others), misspelling its name in the process.

In ''[[Sonichu #11]]'', [[Inos]] passes [[Blake]] on the street and wishes him a happy Kwanzaa (spelled correctly this time), causing Blake to go into a [[Chris and race|vaguely racist rant]] over being mistaken for black.

===Other faiths===
Chris doesn't say (or care, probably), what Muslims, Orthodox Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Baha'is or Atheists do in CWCville on Christmas Day. Probably they're the "few humbuggers" whom Chris derides for not celebrating C-mas/Haunaka/Kawanza/whatever those wacky Buddhists celebrate.

==Christmases in Chris's life==
===1985===
[[File:0004-ChristopherDec1985.jpg|thumb|On Santa's knee, 1985.]]
Chris and Barb were photographed with a mall Santa Claus.
===1986===
Chris received a massive buttload of toys and gifts this year when he was 4. Among them include a plush doll of Fievel from ''An American Tail'', a Raggedy Ann doll, and several pieces of ''Sesame Street'' merchandise, among others.

===1989===
In 1989, 7-year-old Chris received a [[Game Boy]] for Christmas, his second video game system (the first being the [[Commodore 64]]) and what'd help kickstart his life-long obsession with the medium.

===1992===
[[Image:BearsteinbyChris.jpg|right|thumb|GodBear, directing his Chorus of AngelBears]]

While visiting Richmond during the Christmas season of 1992 (Chris believes it was [[1989]]), Chris got probably the most dumbfounding present of his whole life, and from [[Christopher's name change|GodBear]] himself, no less. Strolling with his father through the Regency Square Mall, Christopher, as he was called at the time, encountered a band of bears playing some Christmas songs. Chris talked to the conductor, and being half-deaf from the cacophonous music they played, the man operating the bear mistakenly named him "Christian".

From that point on, Chris insisted his name was Christian, not Christopher, and a few months later [[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves|got his name legally changed to "Christian"]].
===1995===
[[File:0087-Christmas95-2.jpg|thumb|Xmas 1995]]
Chris received a 'Two-Faced Sports Fan' remote caddy, a ''[[Power Rangers]]'' Shogun Megazord, and a new bicycle for Christmas.

===1996===
Chris probably got a [[Nintendo 64]].
===1997===
Chris received a Cortland video camera, a Lego playset, a [[Peanuts|Snoopy doll]], a ''Cartooning with Charles Schulz'' kit, {{w|''Wave Race 64''}}, {{w|''Mischief Makers''}} and an extra Nintendo 64 controller for Christmas. He also gave Bob a {{w|Yoshi}} plushie.

===2001===
Chris burned a CD entitled ''Sing-A-Longs For Madeline'' as a Christmas gift for his cousin [[Minor Family Members#Cousin Madeline and her sister|Madeline]]. He also made a copy of the CD for himself, which he held onto until [[2024]], when he put it up for sale on [[Cwclight]] for $100.

===2002===
Chris, at the age of 20, wrote a letter to Santa Claus which was sent to the local ''Daily Progress'' newspaper for publishing in its 7 December 2002 edition.<ref name=dailyprogress></ref>

===2003===
A comment made by Chris in a [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004#Part 2|video he shot on Christmas Day of 2004]] indicate that he met [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] on the Christmas Day of last year.

===[[2004]]===
{{quote|[[Stress sigh|[Chris sighs] ]] Well, at this time of year, all I can say right now is... that I hope Santa will comply with my request and bring me... a pretty girlfriend. And so... happy holidays from... me, Christian Chandler — by the way, you can [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009|call my Chris]] in public—and... thank you.|Emo Chris, [[So Need a Cute Girl]].}}
{{quote|I want a girlfriend for Christmas, to share my love, oh. I want a girlfriend for Christmas, to kiss under the mistletoe.|Chris, the poetic [[geinus]].}}

[[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004|This Christmas]], Chris expected to get: a) a [[Sweetheart|girlfriend]] from "Santa Clause" [sic], and b) an [[Chris and remorse|apology]] from [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Not surprisingly, he didn't get either, and became [[Chris and stress|depressed]]. He recorded [[ChrisAfterChristmas2004|a whiny video]] about [[Sarah Hammer]] and [[Wes Iseli]].

Chris also filmed himself walking around his cluttered house on the holiday, making his father choose between a DVD or (dubbed) VHS copy of ''Fraggle Rock'', and giving his mother a snowglobe ([[Chris and his ego|with a picture of him in it]]) and a (broken) ''Hamtaro'' toy.

Earlier in December, he dedicated two different songs to the first of these two wishes: [[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]] (written on December 4th) and [[All I Want For Christmas Is a Pretty Girlfriend]] (recorded on December 20th). In the same video, Chris also sang a live rendition of the famous [[So Need a Cute Girl]], which was dedicated to the same thing.

If "Santa Clause" [sic] really exists, this proves that he's a major [[JERKS|JERK]], or that he doesn't tie up girls and leave them under trees as gifts for horny manchildren.

Barb's extended family held a Christmas party this year which Chris and his parents attended. This was the last time any of them saw [[Cole Smithey]] in person.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 27]]</ref><ref>[[Catherine#The_bowling_outing]]</ref>

===[[2005]]===
[[Image:0790-CMas05-5.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas 2k5]]
{{quote|Although I really don't mean to be cold but please don't try and advance kissing on me please. The truth is I don't want a boyfriend because I don't desire and idolize boys like other girls. I enjoy being indepentant. So you see what I mean? It's certainly nothing personal towards you. I'm just a girl who doesn't care about loving guys. That doesn't mean I can't be friends with them though.|[[Megan]] on 20 December 2005, trying to be diplomatic with Chris.}}

While you could say 2004 was the most depressing Christmas for Chris, 2005 was his most [[stress]]ful. Just a few days prior, his girl [[gal-pal]] [[sweetheart]] [[Megan Schroeder]] told him that she didn't like him [[Rape|trying to kiss her]] and that she [[Homo|doesn't want to have a boyfriend at all]]. And to add insult to injury, "Santa Clause" [sic] ended up being a cheapskate by giving him a knockoff Lego set instead of a legitimate one. Of course, there was no boyfriend-free girl under the tree that year.

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===[[2007]]===
[[Image:Fakeout-makeout2.jpg|right|thumb|Chris and Kimmi.]]

On December 26, Chris bought himself a [[sex doll]] called [[Kimmi]], who would become a rival to his long-time artificial heartsweet [[Officer Nasty]], on [[Adamandeve.com]]. Probably because "Santa Clause" [sic] didn't bring him one this year, either.

To compliment the sex doll, Chris also bought a "Vintage XXX Cartoons DVD/CD", and received "XXX Pleasure Seekers DVD/CD" and "Playboy Magazine Digital Edition DVD/CD" for free. The fact that Chris specifically sought something as bizarre as vintage porn cartoons to [[mass debating|fap]] his crooked [[duck]] to, for some reason, sits fine with all the other weird aspects of his twisted personality.

However, being unsatisfied with fantasizing about naked women drawn in the 1960s, Chris went to Adamandeve.com again soon after New Year's Day, and purchased some more XXX-rated holiday gifts for himself. These include: a "2008 Adam & Eve Calendar", a "[[Card games|Romance Roulette Card Game]]" (which Chris probably plays as [[Virgin with Rage|solitaire]]), and, the strangest one of the bunch, a "Carmen Boob Mousepad", whatever that is. He also got some free items as well, namely a "XXX Pleasure Seekers DVD/CD" and, most notably, the infamous "Anal Love Beads", which would become a popular theme for [[trolling]] Chris in the ensuing year.

===[[2008]]===
Chris got "a couple of [[DVD]]s, ''Bee Movie'' on Blu-Ray, [[Obesity|assorted chocolates]] and [[Bob Walks In|a calming family moment]]"<ref>[[IRC (28 December 2008)]]</ref>; in Chris's words, it was "simple, nothing extravagant". Bob outdid himself with a gift to [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] overshadowing Sonichu in over-the-top symbolism. "He gave her an arranged box of ornaments, with tags attached to them; each one representing her blessings; three angels, me, dad and my half-bro, Cole. Ones for [[Ruckersville]], Red Oak, [[Chandler Cats|our cats]], and one for her."<ref>Chris, on [[IRC (27 December 2008)</ref>

===[[2009]]===
Chris took the time to send [[Kill De Jack|warm wishes]] to a [[Jack Thaddeus|dear friend]]. He also received chocolate and [[video games]] from [[Mailbag 24|his family]].

===[[2010]]===
Not much is known of how Chris spent Christmas this year. All that we know for sure is that for this Christmas he asked for all websites he sees as defamatory against him, such as the CWCki and [[ED]], to disappear.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref> He bought a ton of games in [[January 2011]], so he probably got PSN vouchers.

===[[2011]]===
Due to [[28 October 2011|Chris' decision to trespass at The Game Place and Barb's decision to assault an officer]], Chris's Christmas in 2011 was spent amid court appearances and the fear of potentially going to jail. It was also Chris's first Christmas sans-Bob.

===[[2012]]===
It's not known what Chris did, but he uploaded Bob's jazz marathon a few days beforehand.

{{Quote|I offer for all the complete set of songs and intros from the 1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon that my father hosted and played music of Jugs, Kazzoos and Washboards, Blues and Boogie-Woogie, plus three more hours of good jazz that was recorded with it on the original 6 Hour VHS.
http://rapidshare.com/files/3812165045/1990%20WTJU%20Jazz%20Marathon.zip
Merry Christmas.|[[Facebook]], 20 [[December 2012]]}}

On the 21st, he watched [[Wikipedia:2012 (film)|''2012'']] and thanked God and Jesus that the [[Wikipedia:2012 phenomenon|world didn't end]], which must have brightened up his Christmas.

A few days after Chris seemed miserable, saying ''"I am back to the same old feelings; lonely, depressed, etc. makes me almost wish the world had ended, so I wouldn't have to continue feeling the pain. I desperately require my true (future) Sweetheart-to-be AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN..."''<ref>[[December 2012 Facebook posts#Sweetheart desperately required]]</ref> Apparently again Santa didn't bring him a pretty girlfriend.

===[[2013]]===
Nothing but a few PS3 games. No Life Upgrade Upgrade, and still no sweetheart from the ground-up.

===[[2014]]===
Chris requested much-needed [[Lego]] sets, and even suggested "prank gifts" for [[trolls]] to send him. The day after Christmas, he went to a local [[GameStop]] to give an [[Yellow-Shirted Foe|employee]] a [[26 December 2014|special present]].

===[[2015]]===
In the build-up, Chris [[Seasons Greetings|suggested several gifts]], and sang "[[Twelve New and Old Things of Christmas]]".

===[[2016]]===
Chris hoped that [[Bob]] would enjoy Christmas in his [[Chris and death|new life]]. He also uploaded an enormous wishlist of toys and [[Transformers]] junk for fans to buy for him. He uploaded [[Sorbet likes to play with his little robot|a video]] of [[Sorbet]] playing with a robot on Christmas day.

===[[2017]]===
[[File:Sonichu 16 page-37.jpeg|thumb|right|200px|Christmas Day 2017, as portrayed in ''Sonichu'' #13.]]
Chris [[December 2017 tweets|tweeted]] ''"Just a simple Merry Christmas to Every Good Person. May your Wishes Be Answered Fully."'' According to page 33 of [[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]], Chris kept busy on Christmas Day by reading the novel ''[[Nazis|The Man in the High Castle]]'' to appease the ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'' character Blanc (clearly one of the [[Idea Guys]] roleplaying as the CPU). Furthermore, Chris goes on to note that his communication with the CPU Vert was interrupted by ''Wolfenstein'' antagonist,
Wilhelm Strasse.

===[[2018]]===
On C-Mas 2018, [[Marvin]]<ref>[[On The Captain]]</ref> logged into Chris's Twitter account while posing as [[Magi-Chan]] and doxed Lukas of the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. "Magi-Chan" also claimed the [[Dimensional Merge]] would be delayed by 20 years.<ref>[[December 2018 social media posts#Magi-Chan doxxing incident]]</ref> However, Chris still believes in it, and later announced that he was "''opening presents with Magi-Chan, [[Cryzel]], [[Sylvana]], [[Mewtwo]], [[Patti]] and our [[Raichu]], Fate. It was very lovely. 😊 The Dimension Merge is still in progress, within its final steps before the apex. The [[PsychicPowers|psychic]] and soulful links and events I have been having are becoming more frequent, so I do know. And all of the other deities have been working very hard together, with me as part of the group, to make this happen.''"<ref>[[December 2018 social media posts#The Merge is still on]]</ref>

===[[2019]]===
Chris posted on [[Twitter]] that his sinus infection was gone, and he posted a new drawing of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts#Chris gears up for BABSCon with TSSSF cards]]</ref>

===[[2020]]===
On December 10, Chris, [[possessed]] by [[Sonichu]], stated that he didn't want presents, just money via PayPal, adding ''"Yes, I Know what you haters are gonna say, “OOH! Christine’s asking for money again. Don’t give her any money; she’ll just spend it on Legos and vidya games. Bladdy, bladdy blah.” No, we could use some money to keep the bank accounts better afloat this time around. Okay?"'' He also described an audio recording of a conversation between him and Magi-Chan as "an impromptu Christmas gift for all of you."<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Chris begs for money]]</ref>

On Christmas day itself, he wished everyone a Merry Christmas [[Chris and language|in multiple languages]]<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Merry Christmas]]</ref> and claimed that an eighth [[Sonichu Ball]] had manifested itself at his house.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Seven Crystal Balls]]</ref> In [[The Place]], he was dismayed over the [[Dimensional Merge]] not having completed yet, and tried to prod [[Kyle]] into researching the frequency needed to activate it.<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#Christmas and Merge Talk]]</ref>

This would become Chris's last Christmas celebrated at his former home in [[14 Branchland Court]].

===[[2021]]===
[[File:JailLetter13Dec2021Drawing.png|thumb|Chris's God complex on full show]]

Chris spent Christmas in his cell at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], awaiting trial for [[Affair with Mother|incest]] with his mother. On Christmas Eve, he [[Jail Call - 24 December 2021|spoke with Cory Allison]] on the phone.

===[[2022]]===
Chris spent Christmas in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] again.

===[[2023]]===
[[File:X - Christmas tree 22Dec2023.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A Christmas tree set up at Chris's home.]]
[[File:The Nativity.jpg|thumb|Art of the nativity in a scene from [[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]].]]
2023 was the first Christmas Chris celebrated outside of jail since his arrest in 2021. He posted on social media an image of a Christmas tree with a [[Sonichu]]/[[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian]] star on top.

===[[2024]]===
Chris presumably spent the holiday with his associate [[Flutter]]. They had been spotted in Helsinki, [[Finland]] on 17 December.
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==Fan video==
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==See also==
[[File:The Wise Men and Herod.jpg|thumb|Herod and the Wise Men in [[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]]]]
*[[Chris and religion]]
*"[[All I Want For Christmas Is a Pretty Girlfriend]]"
*"[[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]]"
*[[Holiday Greetings]]
*"[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]]"
*[[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]]
*[[Mailbag 19#A very Asperchu Christmas|A Very ''Asperchu'' Christmas]]
*[[Halloween]]
*[[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]]

==References==
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{{Quote|I want a girlfriend for Christmas, now and forevermore. 
I want a girlfriend for Christmas, so I won’t be lonely anymore. 
She should be 18-22. 
And she ought to be [[Boyfriend-free girl|Boyfriend-Free]] too.|Chris, 2004 ("[[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]]")}}

[[Image:MerryCWCmas.jpg|right|thumb|Merry C-Mas to all the [[troll]]s, [[JERKS]], [[homos]], and [[jerkop]]s out there!]]
[[File:HollyOCChristmas.jpg|right|thumb|Every Christmas is an [[OC]] Christmas.]]

'''Christmas''' or, as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] once [[CWC-isms|called it]], '''C-Mas''',<ref>[[Sonichu's News Dash]] - "The Christmas season is upon us, and with that comes the rush for the C-Mas Turkey[.]"</ref> is one of our hero's favorite holidays. He's often mentioned it in his comics and videos.

==Christmas in the Chandler family==
[[Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|right|thumb|Bob and li'l Chris remembering Jesus.]]
{{quote|We celebrate like normal; a decorated tree, get-together, remembering [[Jesus]] and all.|ChrisChanSonichu, [[Mailbag 2#Holidays with the Chandlers|Mailbag #2]].}}

Barbara's extended family holds (or at least used to hold) Christmas gatherings, probably in Red Oak or the Richmond area. The Chandlers used to attend these, but they stopped doing so at some point, possibly after the death of [[Aunt Corrina]] in 2009. [[Cole Smithey]] used to attend these gatherings as well but apparently stopped sometime after 2004. As of 2007, he would spend the holidays with his wife's family in California.<ref>[[Cole Smithey E-mails]]</ref>

As such, Chris normally spent Christmas with just [[Barbara]] and (before his passing) [[Bob]].

As evidenced by videos like [[100 2281]] and [[Tour of Chris's House]], the Chandlers kept a Christmas tree and decorations in their [[kitchen]] year-round because they were too lazy to take them down.

[[File:CWCmasStockings.jpg|right|thumb|The stockings were hung from the chimney with care.]]

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==Santa Clause==
[[Image:ChrisSanta.jpg|right|thumb|Chris wishes he were as much of a man as Mr. "Clause" is.]]
[[File:0072-Chrisian&Santa.jpg|thumb|Chris and Santa at Chick-fil-A.]]
[[File:Pickle tree.jpg|thumb|A must for the discerning troll.]]

{{quote|[2008-12-15 07::03:20] EXKeine: Christmas is coming up, so... do you believe in Santa Claus? [2008-12-15 07::03:40] ChrisChanSonichu: yep.|Chris on Santa Clause [sic], [[IRC (15 December 2008)]].}}
{{quote|It’s been over a week since my [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of college|SUSPENSION]]; I am [[Stress|DEPRESSED]], [[Love Quest|LONELY]], SAD and BORED! I have [[Attraction Location|nowhere to go]] to attract a [[Boyfriend-free girl|Boyfriend-Free woman]]. I’ll be writing to Santa Clause [sic] this year, hoping that will bring me one. (8(|[[CWC's Diary]] for September 26, 2004, Chris acting like the 22-year-old grown-up man he is.}}
{{quote|Or for— since it's Christmas time, let's make like I'm Mister— yo' Misses Claus. I have a...good ole heat, 'cuz I took...a bit o'...[[Chris and sex|Viagra]]. Bam, ba-bam, bam, ho, ho-OH!|Chris RPing as The Man, [[iPods Down and Listen Up]].}}
{{quote|I did not say that I was taking Viagra; I was stating that in that role-play, Santa would be taking that.|Chris, [[Mailbag 20#Viagra roleplay and something about Santa Claus|Mailbag #20]], on Kris Kringle's erectile dysfunction.}}

"Santa Clause" [[Chris and English|[sic]]] (not to be confused with [[wikipedia:The Santa Clause|the Tim Allen movie that uses this spelling]]) is a legendary character associated with Christmas, whom many Western children believe in.

According to surveys, most of these same children stop believing in Santa around the age of eight, often when they find out it was actually [[Borb|their parents]] playing the role of Jolly St. Nick. However, Chris claims that [[Chris and reality|he still believes]] in "Santa Clause" [sic], despite being over 40. He even put Santa's name on his [[JERKS#The List Of Males Chris Doesn't Hate|List Of Males Chris Doesn't Hate]], which may imply that he: a) believes "Santa Clause" [sic] is real, b) believes Santa is a manly male man capable of landing himself a girlfriend (see also the [[Mailbag 20#Viagra roleplay and something about Santa Claus|Mailbag quote]] above). Also worth of note is the fact that Chris chose to put Santa's name on the list before [[God]] and [[Jesus]]...because, come on, these two [[JERKS]] never brought him even the tiniest presents!

Of course, all this doesn't necessarily mean that Chris actually ''does'' believe in Santa. Chris probably maintains this line because he ''wants'' to believe it and maintain memories of the happy Christmases of his childhood. For Chris, who still plays with da [[Lego]]s, professing a belief in Santa is "cute" and shows that he is "young at heart", one of his favorite traits.

In [[2002]], at 20 years of age, Chris wrote a letter to Santa via the local ''Daily Progress'' newspaper. In the letter, Chris asked Santa for a video game for himself, gifts for his relatives, and also to make [[Sonichu]] real.<ref name=dailyprogress>[[Chris in the media#Daily Progress]]</ref>

In a [[2010]] e-mail exchange with [[Jackie]], Chris stated that he [[Honor roll|learned]] Santa wasn't real around age fifteen or sixteen, but finally "gave up on him" at 24 after he failed to bring him a girlfriend for the third year in a row.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails]]</ref>

However, in a [[September 2018]] tweet, Chris indicated that he maintained a belief in Santa.<ref>[[September 2018 social media posts#Santa Clause is real]]</ref> Chris was 36 years old when he made the comment.

{{quotebox|Santa Clause has always been real; you just need to always keep an open mind and an open heart. Never close yourself off, because anything is possible.}}

Chris almost certainly maintains this belief as he has slid further and further into his delusions about [[Dimensional Merge|alternate]] [[dimensions]] and that all [[OC|fictional characters]] are real.

==Presents Chris gives, wishes for, and receives==
[[Image:0086-Christmas95-1.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas '95]]
[[Image:0128-Christmas96-6.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas '96]]

{{quote|My father likes Brach's Maple Nut Goodies, and my mother likes chocolate, so some edible treats of that variety is [[Obesity|a good suggestion]].|[[Mailbag 6#For the man who has everything|Mailbag #6]], on what he planned to give his parents for Christmas, 2009.}}

==Christmas-related songs and merch==
Chris also got the name of his [[Lovely Weather|future wife]] from singing a 1950's Christmas song over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, which actually [[Autism|says a lot about him]].

He also seems to have an affinity for the song "[[Wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]", as he raged like an idiot because the word [[homos|gay]] should only be used in context of "happy", as in the song when it says, "Don we now our [[Chris and fashion|gay apparel]]."<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

==Other confessions==
Being the totally sensitive and tolerant person he is, Chris in his ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' Christmas special (the [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas|text]] and [[Sonichu 11|comic]] versions) mentions the ways [[CWCville]] citizens of different faiths (that is, "Jewish folk", Buddhists, possibly [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black people]], and "a few humbuggers") celebrate their own wacky versions of Christmas. In 2019, he referred to the holiday season as ''ChristmaHannuaKwanzaka''.<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts]]</ref>

===Hanukkah/Chanukkah===
{{quote|Cera continues with a question, holding a cookie in a zip-loc bag, "I've invited Kevin too; do you think he'll like this candle-shaped cookie I made for him? He told me he was Jewish, and I thought it would be appropriate." Rosechu replies, "I think he'll love it. You have made it really special with the white frosting for the wax and the yellow for the flame. Uh, what kind of cookie was it again?" "Vanilla", replies Cera, "I felt it best to keep it neutral, in case he was allergic to the peanut butter or chocolate." "Very Smart," says Rosechu with a smile, exchanging a high-five with Cera.|''[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]]'', Act I}}

"[[IRC (22 December 2008)|Haunaka]]"/"[[IRC (22 December 2008)|Chaunaka]]"/"[[Holiday Greetings|Konica]]"/"[[Shout out to Fans in Hospital|Chanukkah]]"/whatever, is a holiday [[CWCville]] "Jewish folk" celebrate while most other citizens celebrate Christmas. On December 12, members of the CWCville Jewish diaspora set up "Menorah candles" (the "Haunaka" [sic] Menorah candelabrum has 7 candles in it, while the traditional Menorah used on Hanukkah, called a "Hanukkiah", has 9) instead of Christmas Trees, with dreidels lying under them. Since the candle-related symbolism is very much present in Hanukkah rituals, it's in good taste to give CWCville Jews anything candle-related as a gift. E.g., when [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]'s daughter [[Cerah Rosey]] baked cookies for her friends, she decided to make her Jewish friend Kevin a candle-shaped one. This is another small example of Chris's naivety as a cookie of any shape would have likely been appreciated. That Cerah couldn't choose a more obvious Hanukkah symbol (such as a Menorah or a dreidel) over a ''generic candle'' shows that Cerah has extremely poor knowledge of even the most basic of Jewish traditions known in the Gentile world.

In fact, there actually is a tradition of eating ''fried'' foods on Hanukkah, and vanilla is one of the allowed ingredients used in making them. Not that Chris knows anything about this, mind you - he just wanted to make sure that the cookie was hypoallergenic.

In [[IRC (22 December 2008)]] Chris listed "Haunaka" and "Chaunaka" as two different holidays, probably belonging to different religions. In his [[Shout out to Fans in Hospital]], he does nearly the same thing, saying "happy Hanukkah, Chanukkah, all the other holidays to everybody of other religions".

===Jolly Buddah [sic]===
{{quote|Christmas Trees are abound most everywhere: in the homes of the townfolk, [[CWCville Mall|in the stores]], [[CWCville Mayoral Office|in the offices]], and the biggest one in the center of [[McIntire Park|CWC-Central Park]]. Some have Menorah Candles, or even a Jolly Buddah [sic].|[[Sonichu 11|A Sonichu Christmas]] (the comic version)}}
{{quote|All the churches are full with all the believers, be they Christians, Jewish folk, Buddhists, and such.|[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]] (the text version)}}

From what we know, Buddhism is one of the religions Chris tolerates, and so he sometimes mentions it as a display of his "religious sensitivity". However, he probably doesn't know jack shit about Buddhism, and assumes that since Buddhists are all "good-hearted believers", they undoubtedly should celebrate Christmas in some way! So, in [[CWCville]], Buddhists celebrate their Buddhist Christmas by going to their Buddhist churches on starting December 12, and having a "Jolly Buddah" instead of a Christmas Tree.

By coincidence, Christmas is actually a popular holiday in some primarily Buddhist countries (such as [[anime|Japan]]). However, it's rare for celebrators to give the time special religious significance specific to their religion. Similar to how Halloween is celebrated in America based solely on the customs with practically no emphasis on the religious practices that started the holiday, so too do many Buddhists enjoy Christmas just as an excuse to put up lights, give each other gifts and participate in the same customs other people enjoy.

===Kwanzaa/Kawanza [sic]===
[[File:Son11p21.jpg|thumb|300px|Suffice to say, Blake is not a fan of Kwanzaa. Or black people, for that matter.]]

Little is known of what Chris thinks about [[Wikipedia:Kwanzaa|"Kawanza"]] [sic] and the related rituals, except that he [[IRC (22 December 2008)|once]] congratulated his [[trolls]] with this holiday (among others), misspelling its name in the process.

In ''[[Sonichu #11]]'', [[Inos]] passes [[Blake]] on the street and wishes him a happy Kwanzaa (spelled correctly this time), causing Blake to go into a [[Chris and race|vaguely racist rant]] over being mistaken for black.

===Other faiths===
Chris doesn't say (or care, probably), what Muslims, Orthodox Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Baha'is or Atheists do in CWCville on Christmas Day. Probably they're the "few humbuggers" whom Chris derides for not celebrating C-mas/Haunaka/Kawanza/whatever those wacky Buddhists celebrate.

==Christmases in Chris's life==
===1985===
[[File:0004-ChristopherDec1985.jpg|thumb|On Santa's knee, 1985.]]
Chris and Barb were photographed with a mall Santa Claus.
===1986===
Chris received a massive buttload of toys and gifts this year when he was 4. Among them include a plush doll of Fievel from ''An American Tail'', a Raggedy Ann doll, and several pieces of ''Sesame Street'' merchandise, among others.

===1989===
In 1989, 7-year-old Chris received a [[Game Boy]] for Christmas, his second video game system (the first being the [[Commodore 64]]) and what'd help kickstart his life-long obsession with the medium.

===1992===
[[Image:BearsteinbyChris.jpg|right|thumb|GodBear, directing his Chorus of AngelBears]]

While visiting Richmond during the Christmas season of 1992 (Chris believes it was [[1989]]), Chris got probably the most dumbfounding present of his whole life, and from [[Christopher's name change|GodBear]] himself, no less. Strolling with his father through the Regency Square Mall, Christopher, as he was called at the time, encountered a band of bears playing some Christmas songs. Chris talked to the conductor, and being half-deaf from the cacophonous music they played, the man operating the bear mistakenly named him "Christian".

From that point on, Chris insisted his name was Christian, not Christopher, and a few months later [[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves|got his name legally changed to "Christian"]].
===1995===
[[File:0087-Christmas95-2.jpg|thumb|Xmas 1995]]
Chris received a 'Two-Faced Sports Fan' remote caddy, a ''[[Power Rangers]]'' Shogun Megazord, and a new bicycle for Christmas.

===1996===
Chris probably got a [[Nintendo 64]].
===1997===
Chris received a Cortland video camera, a Lego playset, a [[Peanuts|Snoopy doll]], a ''Cartooning with Charles Schulz'' kit, {{w|''Wave Race 64''}}, {{w|''Mischief Makers''}} and an extra Nintendo 64 controller for Christmas. He also gave Bob a {{w|Yoshi}} plushie.

===2001===
Chris burned a CD entitled ''Sing-A-Longs For Madeline'' as a Christmas gift for his cousin [[Minor Family Members#Cousin Madeline and her sister|Madeline]]. He also made a copy of the CD for himself, which he held onto until [[2024]], when he put it up for sale on [[Cwclight]] for $100.

===2002===
Chris, at the age of 20, wrote a letter to Santa Claus which was sent to the local ''Daily Progress'' newspaper for publishing in its 7 December 2002 edition.<ref name=dailyprogress></ref>

===2003===
A comment made by Chris in a [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004#Part 2|video he shot on Christmas Day of 2004]] indicate that he met [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] on the Christmas Day of last year.

===[[2004]]===
{{quote|[[Stress sigh|[Chris sighs] ]] Well, at this time of year, all I can say right now is... that I hope Santa will comply with my request and bring me... a pretty girlfriend. And so... happy holidays from... me, Christian Chandler — by the way, you can [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009|call my Chris]] in public—and... thank you.|Emo Chris, [[So Need a Cute Girl]].}}
{{quote|I want a girlfriend for Christmas, to share my love, oh. I want a girlfriend for Christmas, to kiss under the mistletoe.|Chris, the poetic [[geinus]].}}

[[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004|This Christmas]], Chris expected to get: a) a [[Sweetheart|girlfriend]] from "Santa Clause" [sic], and b) an [[Chris and remorse|apology]] from [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Not surprisingly, he didn't get either, and became [[Chris and stress|depressed]]. He recorded [[ChrisAfterChristmas2004|a whiny video]] about [[Sarah Hammer]] and [[Wes Iseli]].

Chris also filmed himself walking around his cluttered house on the holiday, making his father choose between a DVD or (dubbed) VHS copy of ''Fraggle Rock'', and giving his mother a snowglobe ([[Chris and his ego|with a picture of him in it]]) and a (broken) ''Hamtaro'' toy.

Earlier in December, he dedicated two different songs to the first of these two wishes: [[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]] (written on December 4th) and [[All I Want For Christmas Is a Pretty Girlfriend]] (recorded on December 20th). In the same video, Chris also sang a live rendition of the famous [[So Need a Cute Girl]], which was dedicated to the same thing.

If "Santa Clause" [sic] really exists, this proves that he's a major [[JERKS|JERK]], or that he doesn't tie up girls and leave them under trees as gifts for horny manchildren.

Barb's extended family held a Christmas party this year which Chris and his parents attended. This was the last time any of them saw [[Cole Smithey]] in person.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 27]]</ref><ref>[[Catherine#The_bowling_outing]]</ref>

===[[2005]]===
[[Image:0790-CMas05-5.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas 2k5]]
{{quote|Although I really don't mean to be cold but please don't try and advance kissing on me please. The truth is I don't want a boyfriend because I don't desire and idolize boys like other girls. I enjoy being indepentant. So you see what I mean? It's certainly nothing personal towards you. I'm just a girl who doesn't care about loving guys. That doesn't mean I can't be friends with them though.|[[Megan]] on 20 December 2005, trying to be diplomatic with Chris.}}

While you could say 2004 was the most depressing Christmas for Chris, 2005 was his most [[stress]]ful. Just a few days prior, his girl [[gal-pal]] [[sweetheart]] [[Megan Schroeder]] told him that she didn't like him [[Rape|trying to kiss her]] and that she [[Homo|doesn't want to have a boyfriend at all]]. And to add insult to injury, "Santa Clause" [sic] ended up being a cheapskate by giving him a knockoff Lego set instead of a legitimate one. Of course, there was no boyfriend-free girl under the tree that year.

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===[[2007]]===
[[Image:Fakeout-makeout2.jpg|right|thumb|Chris and Kimmi.]]

On December 26, Chris bought himself a [[sex doll]] called [[Kimmi]], who would become a rival to his long-time artificial heartsweet [[Officer Nasty]], on [[Adamandeve.com]]. Probably because "Santa Clause" [sic] didn't bring him one this year, either.

To compliment the sex doll, Chris also bought a "Vintage XXX Cartoons DVD/CD", and received "XXX Pleasure Seekers DVD/CD" and "Playboy Magazine Digital Edition DVD/CD" for free. The fact that Chris specifically sought something as bizarre as vintage porn cartoons to [[mass debating|fap]] his crooked [[duck]] to, for some reason, sits fine with all the other weird aspects of his twisted personality.

However, being unsatisfied with fantasizing about naked women drawn in the 1960s, Chris went to Adamandeve.com again soon after New Year's Day, and purchased some more XXX-rated holiday gifts for himself. These include: a "2008 Adam & Eve Calendar", a "[[Card games|Romance Roulette Card Game]]" (which Chris probably plays as [[Virgin with Rage|solitaire]]), and, the strangest one of the bunch, a "Carmen Boob Mousepad", whatever that is. He also got some free items as well, namely a "XXX Pleasure Seekers DVD/CD" and, most notably, the infamous "Anal Love Beads", which would become a popular theme for [[trolling]] Chris in the ensuing year.

===[[2008]]===
Chris got "a couple of [[DVD]]s, ''Bee Movie'' on Blu-Ray, [[Obesity|assorted chocolates]] and [[Bob Walks In|a calming family moment]]"<ref€[[IRC (28 December 2008)]]</ref>; in Chris's words, it was "simple, nothing extravagant". Bob outdid himself with a gift to [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] overshadowing Sonichu in over-the-top symbolism. "He gave her an arranged box of ornaments, with tags attached to them; each one representing her blessings; three angels, me, dad and my half-bro, Cole. Ones for [[Ruckersville]], Red Oak, [[Chandler Cats|our cats]], and one for her."<ref>Chris, on [[IRC (27 December 2008)</ref>

===[[2009]]===
Chris took the time to send [[Kill De Jack|warm wishes]] to a [[Jack Thaddeus|dear friend]]. He also received chocolate and [[video games]] from [[Mailbag 24|his family]].

===[[2010]]===
Not much is known of how Chris spent Christmas this year. All that we know for sure is that for this Christmas he asked for all websites he sees as defamatory against him, such as the CWCki and [[ED]], to disappear.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref> He bought a ton of games in [[January 2011]], so he probably got PSN vouchers.

===[[2011]]===
Due to [[28 October 2011|Chris' decision to trespass at The Game Place and Barb's decision to assault an officer]], Chris's Christmas in 2011 was spent amid court appearances and the fear of potentially going to jail. It was also Chris's first Christmas sans-Bob.

===[[2012]]===
It's not known what Chris did, but he uploaded Bob's jazz marathon a few days beforehand.

{{Quote|I offer for all the complete set of songs and intros from the 1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon that my father hosted and played music of Jugs, Kazzoos and Washboards, Blues and Boogie-Woogie, plus three more hours of good jazz that was recorded with it on the original 6 Hour VHS.
http://rapidshare.com/files/3812165045/1990%20WTJU%20Jazz%20Marathon.zip
Merry Christmas.|[[Facebook]], 20 [[December 2012]]}}

On the 21st, he watched [[Wikipedia:2012 (film)|''2012'']] and thanked God and Jesus that the [[Wikipedia:2012 phenomenon|world didn't end]], which must have brightened up his Christmas.

A few days after Chris seemed miserable, saying ''"I am back to the same old feelings; lonely, depressed, etc. makes me almost wish the world had ended, so I wouldn't have to continue feeling the pain. I desperately require my true (future) Sweetheart-to-be AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN..."''<ref>[[December 2012 Facebook posts#Sweetheart desperately required]]</ref> Apparently again Santa didn't bring him a pretty girlfriend.

===[[2013]]===
Nothing but a few PS3 games. No Life Upgrade Upgrade, and still no sweetheart from the ground-up.

===[[2014]]===
Chris requested much-needed [[Lego]] sets, and even suggested "prank gifts" for [[trolls]] to send him. The day after Christmas, he went to a local [[GameStop]] to give an [[Yellow-Shirted Foe|employee]] a [[26 December 2014|special present]].

===[[2015]]===
In the build-up, Chris [[Seasons Greetings|suggested several gifts]], and sang "[[Twelve New and Old Things of Christmas]]".

===[[2016]]===
Chris hoped that [[Bob]] would enjoy Christmas in his [[Chris and death|new life]]. He also uploaded an enormous wishlist of toys and [[Transformers]] junk for fans to buy for him. He uploaded [[Sorbet likes to play with his little robot|a video]] of [[Sorbet]] playing with a robot on Christmas day.

===[[2017]]===
[[File:Sonichu 16 page-37.jpeg|thumb|right|200px|Christmas Day 2017, as portrayed in ''Sonichu'' #13.]]
Chris [[December 2017 tweets|tweeted]] ''"Just a simple Merry Christmas to Every Good Person. May your Wishes Be Answered Fully."'' According to page 33 of [[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]], Chris kept busy on Christmas Day by reading the novel ''[[Nazis|The Man in the High Castle]]'' to appease the ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'' character Blanc (clearly one of the [[Idea Guys]] roleplaying as the CPU). Furthermore, Chris goes on to note that his communication with the CPU Vert was interrupted by ''Wolfenstein'' antagonist,
Wilhelm Strasse.

===[[2018]]===
On C-Mas 2018, [[Marvin]]<ref>[[On The Captain]]</ref> logged into Chris's Twitter account while posing as [[Magi-Chan]] and doxed Lukas of the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. "Magi-Chan" also claimed the [[Dimensional Merge]] would be delayed by 20 years.<ref>[[December 2018 social media posts#Magi-Chan doxxing incident]]</ref> However, Chris still believes in it, and later announced that he was "''opening presents with Magi-Chan, [[Cryzel]], [[Sylvana]], [[Mewtwo]], [[Patti]] and our [[Raichu]], Fate. It was very lovely. 😊 The Dimension Merge is still in progress, within its final steps before the apex. The [[PsychicPowers|psychic]] and soulful links and events I have been having are becoming more frequent, so I do know. And all of the other deities have been working very hard together, with me as part of the group, to make this happen.''"<ref>[[December 2018 social media posts#The Merge is still on]]</ref>

===[[2019]]===
Chris posted on [[Twitter]] that his sinus infection was gone, and he posted a new drawing of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts#Chris gears up for BABSCon with TSSSF cards]]</ref>

===[[2020]]===
On December 10, Chris, [[possessed]] by [[Sonichu]], stated that he didn't want presents, just money via PayPal, adding ''"Yes, I Know what you haters are gonna say, “OOH! Christine’s asking for money again. Don’t give her any money; she’ll just spend it on Legos and vidya games. Bladdy, bladdy blah.” No, we could use some money to keep the bank accounts better afloat this time around. Okay?"'' He also described an audio recording of a conversation between him and Magi-Chan as "an impromptu Christmas gift for all of you."<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Chris begs for money]]</ref>

On Christmas day itself, he wished everyone a Merry Christmas [[Chris and language|in multiple languages]]<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Merry Christmas]]</ref> and claimed that an eighth [[Sonichu Ball]] had manifested itself at his house.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Seven Crystal Balls]]</ref> In [[The Place]], he was dismayed over the [[Dimensional Merge]] not having completed yet, and tried to prod [[Kyle]] into researching the frequency needed to activate it.<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#Christmas and Merge Talk]]</ref>

This would become Chris's last Christmas celebrated at his former home in [[14 Branchland Court]].

===[[2021]]===
[[File:JailLetter13Dec2021Drawing.png|thumb|Chris's God complex on full show]]

Chris spent Christmas in his cell at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], awaiting trial for [[Affair with Mother|incest]] with his mother. On Christmas Eve, he [[Jail Call - 24 December 2021|spoke with Cory Allison]] on the phone.

===[[2022]]===
Chris spent Christmas in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] again.

===[[2023]]===
[[File:X - Christmas tree 22Dec2023.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A Christmas tree set up at Chris's home.]]
[[File:The Nativity.jpg|thumb|Art of the nativity in a scene from [[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]].]]
2023 was the first Christmas Chris celebrated outside of jail since his arrest in 2021. He posted on social media an image of a Christmas tree with a [[Sonichu]]/[[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian]] star on top.

===[[2024]]===
Chris presumably spent the holiday with his associate [[Flutter]]. They had been spotted in Helsinki, [[Finland]] on 17 December.
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==Fan video==
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==See also==
[[File:The Wise Men and Herod.jpg|thumb|Herod and the Wise Men in [[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]]]]
*[[Chris and religion]]
*"[[All I Want For Christmas Is a Pretty Girlfriend]]"
*"[[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]]"
*[[Holiday Greetings]]
*"[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]]"
*[[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]]
*[[Mailbag 19#A very Asperchu Christmas|A Very ''Asperchu'' Christmas]]
*[[Halloween]]
*[[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]]

==References==
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Christmas

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Dodo Conservative: /* Kwanzaa/Kawanza [sic] */

{{Quote|I want a girlfriend for Christmas, now and forevermore. 
I want a girlfriend for Christmas, so I won’t be lonely anymore. 
She should be 18-22. 
And she ought to be [[Boyfriend-free girl|Boyfriend-Free]] too.|Chris, 2004 ("[[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]]")}}

[[Image:MerryCWCmas.jpg|right|thumb|Merry C-Mas to all the [[troll]]s, [[JERKS]], [[homos]], and [[jerkop]]s out there!]]
[[File:HollyOCChristmas.jpg|right|thumb|Every Christmas is an [[OC]] Christmas.]]

'''Christmas''' or, as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] once [[CWC-isms|called it]], '''C-Mas''',<ref>[[Sonichu's News Dash]] - "The Christmas season is upon us, and with that comes the rush for the C-Mas Turkey[.]"</ref> is one of our hero's favorite holidays. He's often mentioned it in his comics and videos.

==Christmas in the Chandler family==
[[Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|right|thumb|Bob and li'l Chris remembering Jesus.]]
{{quote|We celebrate like normal; a decorated tree, get-together, remembering [[Jesus]] and all.|ChrisChanSonichu, [[Mailbag 2#Holidays with the Chandlers|Mailbag #2]].}}

Barbara's extended family holds (or at least used to hold) Christmas gatherings, probably in Red Oak or the Richmond area. The Chandlers used to attend these, but they stopped doing so at some point, possibly after the death of [[Aunt Corrina]] in 2009. [[Cole Smithey]] used to attend these gatherings as well but apparently stopped sometime after 2004. As of 2007, he would spend the holidays with his wife's family in California.<ref>[[Cole Smithey E-mails]]</ref>

As such, Chris normally spent Christmas with just [[Barbara]] and (before his passing) [[Bob]].

As evidenced by videos like [[100 2281]] and [[Tour of Chris's House]], the Chandlers kept a Christmas tree and decorations in their [[kitchen]] year-round because they were too lazy to take them down.

[[File:CWCmasStockings.jpg|right|thumb|The stockings were hung from the chimney with care.]]

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==Santa Clause==
[[Image:ChrisSanta.jpg|right|thumb|Chris wishes he were as much of a man as Mr. "Clause" is.]]
[[File:0072-Chrisian&Santa.jpg|thumb|Chris and Santa at Chick-fil-A.]]
[[File:Pickle tree.jpg|thumb|A must for the discerning troll.]]

{{quote|[2008-12-15 07::03:20] EXKeine: Christmas is coming up, so... do you believe in Santa Claus? [2008-12-15 07::03:40] ChrisChanSonichu: yep.|Chris on Santa Clause [sic], [[IRC (15 December 2008)]].}}
{{quote|It’s been over a week since my [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of college|SUSPENSION]]; I am [[Stress|DEPRESSED]], [[Love Quest|LONELY]], SAD and BORED! I have [[Attraction Location|nowhere to go]] to attract a [[Boyfriend-free girl|Boyfriend-Free woman]]. I’ll be writing to Santa Clause [sic] this year, hoping that will bring me one. (8(|[[CWC's Diary]] for September 26, 2004, Chris acting like the 22-year-old grown-up man he is.}}
{{quote|Or for— since it's Christmas time, let's make like I'm Mister— yo' Misses Claus. I have a...good ole heat, 'cuz I took...a bit o'...[[Chris and sex|Viagra]]. Bam, ba-bam, bam, ho, ho-OH!|Chris RPing as The Man, [[iPods Down and Listen Up]].}}
{{quote|I did not say that I was taking Viagra; I was stating that in that role-play, Santa would be taking that.|Chris, [[Mailbag 20#Viagra roleplay and something about Santa Claus|Mailbag #20]], on Kris Kringle's erectile dysfunction.}}

"Santa Clause" [[Chris and English|[sic]]] (not to be confused with [[wikipedia:The Santa Clause|the Tim Allen movie that uses this spelling]]) is a legendary character associated with Christmas, whom many Western children believe in.

According to surveys, most of these same children stop believing in Santa around the age of eight, often when they find out it was actually [[Borb|their parents]] playing the role of Jolly St. Nick. However, Chris claims that [[Chris and reality|he still believes]] in "Santa Clause" [sic], despite being over 40. He even put Santa's name on his [[JERKS#The List Of Males Chris Doesn't Hate|List Of Males Chris Doesn't Hate]], which may imply that he: a) believes "Santa Clause" [sic] is real, b) believes Santa is a manly male man capable of landing himself a girlfriend (see also the [[Mailbag 20#Viagra roleplay and something about Santa Claus|Mailbag quote]] above). Also worth of note is the fact that Chris chose to put Santa's name on the list before [[God]] and [[Jesus]]...because, come on, these two [[JERKS]] never brought him even the tiniest presents!

Of course, all this doesn't necessarily mean that Chris actually ''does'' believe in Santa. Chris probably maintains this line because he ''wants'' to believe it and maintain memories of the happy Christmases of his childhood. For Chris, who still plays with da [[Lego]]s, professing a belief in Santa is "cute" and shows that he is "young at heart", one of his favorite traits.

In [[2002]], at 20 years of age, Chris wrote a letter to Santa via the local ''Daily Progress'' newspaper. In the letter, Chris asked Santa for a video game for himself, gifts for his relatives, and also to make [[Sonichu]] real.<ref name=dailyprogress>[[Chris in the media#Daily Progress]]</ref>

In a [[2010]] e-mail exchange with [[Jackie]], Chris stated that he [[Honor roll|learned]] Santa wasn't real around age fifteen or sixteen, but finally "gave up on him" at 24 after he failed to bring him a girlfriend for the third year in a row.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails]]</ref>

However, in a [[September 2018]] tweet, Chris indicated that he maintained a belief in Santa.<ref>[[September 2018 social media posts#Santa Clause is real]]</ref> Chris was 36 years old when he made the comment.

{{quotebox|Santa Clause has always been real; you just need to always keep an open mind and an open heart. Never close yourself off, because anything is possible.}}

Chris almost certainly maintains this belief as he has slid further and further into his delusions about [[Dimensional Merge|alternate]] [[dimensions]] and that all [[OC|fictional characters]] are real.

==Presents Chris gives, wishes for, and receives==
[[Image:0086-Christmas95-1.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas '95]]
[[Image:0128-Christmas96-6.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas '96]]

{{quote|My father likes Brach's Maple Nut Goodies, and my mother likes chocolate, so some edible treats of that variety is [[Obesity|a good suggestion]].|[[Mailbag 6#For the man who has everything|Mailbag #6]], on what he planned to give his parents for Christmas, 2009.}}

==Christmas-related songs and merch==
Chris also got the name of his [[Lovely Weather|future wife]] from singing a 1950's Christmas song over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, which actually [[Autism|says a lot about him]].

He also seems to have an affinity for the song "[[Wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]", as he raged like an idiot because the word [[homos|gay]] should only be used in context of "happy", as in the song when it says, "Don we now our [[Chris and fashion|gay apparel]]."<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

==Other confessions==
Being the totally sensitive and tolerant person he is, Chris in his ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' Christmas special (the [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas|text]] and [[Sonichu 11|comic]] versions) mentions the ways [[CWCville]] citizens of different faiths (that is, "Jewish folk", Buddhists, possibly [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black people]], and "a few humbuggers") celebrate their own wacky versions of Christmas. In 2019, he referred to the holiday season as ''ChristmaHannuaKwanzaka''.<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts]]</ref>

===Hanukkah/Chanukkah===
{{quote|Cera continues with a question, holding a cookie in a zip-loc bag, "I've invited Kevin too; do you think he'll like this candle-shaped cookie I made for him? He told me he was Jewish, and I thought it would be appropriate." Rosechu replies, "I think he'll love it. You have made it really special with the white frosting for the wax and the yellow for the flame. Uh, what kind of cookie was it again?" "Vanilla", replies Cera, "I felt it best to keep it neutral, in case he was allergic to the peanut butter or chocolate." "Very Smart," says Rosechu with a smile, exchanging a high-five with Cera.|''[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]]'', Act I}}

"[[IRC (22 December 2008)|Haunaka]]"/"[[IRC (22 December 2008)|Chaunaka]]"/"[[Holiday Greetings|Konica]]"/"[[Shout out to Fans in Hospital|Chanukkah]]"/whatever, is a holiday [[CWCville]] "Jewish folk" celebrate while most other citizens celebrate Christmas. On December 12, members of the CWCville Jewish diaspora set up "Menorah candles" (the "Haunaka" [sic] Menorah candelabrum has 7 candles in it, while the traditional Menorah used on Hanukkah, called a "Hanukkiah", has 9) instead of Christmas Trees, with dreidels lying under them. Since the candle-related symbolism is very much present in Hanukkah rituals, it's in good taste to give CWCville Jews anything candle-related as a gift. E.g., when [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]'s daughter [[Cerah Rosey]] baked cookies for her friends, she decided to make her Jewish friend Kevin a candle-shaped one. This is another small example of Chris's naivety as a cookie of any shape would have likely been appreciated. That Cerah couldn't choose a more obvious Hanukkah symbol (such as a Menorah or a dreidel) over a ''generic candle'' shows that Cerah has extremely poor knowledge of even the most basic of Jewish traditions known in the Gentile world.

In fact, there actually is a tradition of eating ''fried'' foods on Hanukkah, and vanilla is one of the allowed ingredients used in making them. Not that Chris knows anything about this, mind you - he just wanted to make sure that the cookie was hypoallergenic.

In [[IRC (22 December 2008)]] Chris listed "Haunaka" and "Chaunaka" as two different holidays, probably belonging to different religions. In his [[Shout out to Fans in Hospital]], he does nearly the same thing, saying "happy Hanukkah, Chanukkah, all the other holidays to everybody of other religions".

===Jolly Buddah [sic]===
{{quote|Christmas Trees are abound most everywhere: in the homes of the townfolk, [[CWCville Mall|in the stores]], [[CWCville Mayoral Office|in the offices]], and the biggest one in the center of [[McIntire Park|CWC-Central Park]]. Some have Menorah Candles, or even a Jolly Buddah [sic].|[[Sonichu 11|A Sonichu Christmas]] (the comic version)}}
{{quote|All the churches are full with all the believers, be they Christians, Jewish folk, Buddhists, and such.|[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]] (the text version)}}

From what we know, Buddhism is one of the religions Chris tolerates, and so he sometimes mentions it as a display of his "religious sensitivity". However, he probably doesn't know jack shit about Buddhism, and assumes that since Buddhists are all "good-hearted believers", they undoubtedly should celebrate Christmas in some way! So, in [[CWCville]], Buddhists celebrate their Buddhist Christmas by going to their Buddhist churches on starting December 12, and having a "Jolly Buddah" instead of a Christmas Tree.

By coincidence, Christmas is actually a popular holiday in some primarily Buddhist countries (such as [[anime|Japan]]). However, it's rare for celebrators to give the time special religious significance specific to their religion. Similar to how Halloween is celebrated in America based solely on the customs with practically no emphasis on the religious practices that started the holiday, so too do many Buddhists enjoy Christmas just as an excuse to put up lights, give each other gifts and participate in the same customs other people enjoy.

===Kwanzaa/Kawanza [sic]===
[[File:Son11p21.jpg|thumb|300px|Suffice to say, Blake is not a fan of Kwanzaa. Or black people, for that matter.]]

Little is known of what Chris thinks about [[Wikipedia:Kwanzaa|"Kawanza"]] [sic] and the related rituals, except that he [[IRC (22 December 2008)|once]] congratulated his [[trolls]] with this holiday (among others), misspelling its name in the process.

In ''[[Sonichu #11]]'', [[Inos]] passes [[Blake]] on the street and wishes him a happy Kwanzaa (spelled correctly this time), causing Blake to go into a [[Chris and race|vaguely racist rant]] over being mistaken for black.

===Other faiths===
Chris doesn't say (or care, probably), what Muslims, Orthodox Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Baha'is or Atheists do in CWCville on Christmas Day. Probably they're the "few humbuggers" whom Chris derides for not celebrating C-mas/Haunaka/Kawanza/whatever those wacky Buddhists celebrate.

==Christmases in Chris's life==
===1985===
[[File:0004-ChristopherDec1985.jpg|thumb|On Santa's knee, 1985.]]
Chris and Barb were photographed with a mall Santa Claus.
===1986===
Chris received a massive buttload of toys and gifts this year when he was 4. Among them include a plush doll of Fievel from ''An American Tail'', a Raggedy Ann doll, and several pieces of ''Sesame Street'' merchandise, among others.

===1989===
In 1989, 7-year-old Chris received a [[Game Boy]] for Christmas, his second video game system (the first being the [[Commodore 64]]) and what'd help kickstart his life-long obsession with the medium.

===1992===
[[Image:BearsteinbyChris.jpg|right|thumb|GodBear, directing his Chorus of AngelBears]]

While visiting Richmond during the Christmas season of 1992 (Chris believes it was [[1989]]), Chris got probably the most dumbfounding present of his whole life, and from [[Christopher's name change|GodBear]] himself, no less. Strolling with his father through the Regency Square Mall, Christopher, as he was called at the time, encountered a band of bears playing some Christmas songs. Chris talked to the conductor, and being half-deaf from the cacophonous music they played, the man operating the bear mistakenly named him "Christian".

From that point on, Chris insisted his name was Christian, not Christopher, and a few months later [[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves|got his name legally changed to "Christian"]].
===1995===
[[File:0087-Christmas95-2.jpg|thumb|Xmas 1995]]
Chris received a 'Two-Faced Sports Fan' remote caddy, a ''[[Power Rangers]]'' Shogun Megazord, and a new bicycle for Christmas.

===1996===
Chris probably got a [[Nintendo 64]].
===1997===
Chris received a Cortland video camera, a Lego playset, a [[Peanuts|Snoopy doll]], a ''Cartooning with Charles Schulz'' kit, {{w|''Wave Race 64''}}, {{w|''Mischief Makers''}} and an extra Nintendo 64 controller for Christmas. He also gave Bob a {{w|Yoshi}} plushie.

===2001===
Chris burned a CD entitled ''Sing-A-Longs For Madeline'' as a Christmas gift for his cousin [[Minor Family Members#Cousin Madeline and her sister|Madeline]]. He also made a copy of the CD for himself, which he held onto until [[2024]], when he put it up for sale on [[Cwclight]] for $100.

===2002===
Chris, at the age of 20, wrote a letter to Santa Claus which was sent to the local ''Daily Progress'' newspaper for publishing in its 7 December 2002 edition.<ref name=dailyprogress></ref>

===2003===
A comment made by Chris in a [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004#Part 2|video he shot on Christmas Day of 2004]] indicate that he met [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] on the Christmas Day of last year.

===[[2004]]===
{{quote|[[Stress sigh|[Chris sighs] ]] Well, at this time of year, all I can say right now is... that I hope Santa will comply with my request and bring me... a pretty girlfriend. And so... happy holidays from... me, Christian Chandler — by the way, you can [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009|call my Chris]] in public—and... thank you.|Emo Chris, [[So Need a Cute Girl]].}}
{{quote|I want a girlfriend for Christmas, to share my love, oh. I want a girlfriend for Christmas, to kiss under the mistletoe.|Chris, the poetic [[geinus]].}}

[[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004|This Christmas]], Chris expected to get: a) a [[Sweetheart|girlfriend]] from "Santa Clause" [sic], and b) an [[Chris and remorse|apology]] from [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Not surprisingly, he didn't get either, and became [[Chris and stress|depressed]]. He recorded [[ChrisAfterChristmas2004|a whiny video]] about [[Sarah Hammer]] and [[Wes Iseli]].

Chris also filmed himself walking around his cluttered house on the holiday, making his father choose between a DVD or (dubbed) VHS copy of ''Fraggle Rock'', and giving his mother a snowglobe ([[Chris and his ego|with a picture of him in it]]) and a (broken) ''Hamtaro'' toy.

Earlier in December, he dedicated two different songs to the first of these two wishes: [[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]] (written on December 4th) and [[All I Want For Christmas Is a Pretty Girlfriend]] (recorded on December 20th). In the same video, Chris also sang a live rendition of the famous [[So Need a Cute Girl]], which was dedicated to the same thing.

If "Santa Clause" [sic] really exists, this proves that he's a major [[JERKS|JERK]], or that he doesn't tie up girls and leave them under trees as gifts for horny manchildren.

Barb's extended family held a Christmas party this year which Chris and his parents attended. This was the last time any of them saw [[Cole Smithey]] in person.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 27]]</ref><ref>[[Catherine#The_bowling_outing]]</ref>

===[[2005]]===
[[Image:0790-CMas05-5.jpg|right|thumb|Chris's Christmas 2k5]]
{{quote|Although I really don't mean to be cold but please don't try and advance kissing on me please. The truth is I don't want a boyfriend because I don't desire and idolize boys like other girls. I enjoy being indepentant. So you see what I mean? It's certainly nothing personal towards you. I'm just a girl who doesn't care about loving guys. That doesn't mean I can't be friends with them though.|[[Megan]] on 20 December 2005, trying to be diplomatic with Chris.}}

While you could say 2004 was the most depressing Christmas for Chris, 2005 was his most [[stress]]ful. Just a few days prior, his girl [[gal-pal]] [[sweetheart]] [[Megan Schroeder]] told him that she didn't like him [[Rape|trying to kiss her]] and that she [[Homo|doesn't want to have a boyfriend at all]]. And to add insult to injury, "Santa Clause" [sic] ended up being a cheapskate by giving him a knockoff Lego set instead of a legitimate one. Of course, there was no boyfriend-free girl under the tree that year.

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===[[2007]]===
[[Image:Fakeout-makeout2.jpg|right|thumb|Chris and Kimmi.]]

On December 26, Chris bought himself a [[sex doll]] called [[Kimmi]], who would become a rival to his long-time artificial heartsweet [[Officer Nasty]], on [[Adamandeve.com]]. Probably because "Santa Clause" [sic] didn't bring him one this year, either.

To compliment the sex doll, Chris also bought a "Vintage XXX Cartoons DVD/CD", and received "XXX Pleasure Seekers DVD/CD" and "Playboy Magazine Digital Edition DVD/CD" for free. The fact that Chris specifically sought something as bizarre as vintage porn cartoons to [[mass debating|fap]] his crooked [[duck]] to, for some reason, sits fine with all the other weird aspects of his twisted personality.

However, being unsatisfied with fantasizing about naked women drawn in the 1960s, Chris went to Adamandeve.com again soon after New Year's Day, and purchased some more XXX-rated holiday gifts for himself. These include: a "2008 Adam & Eve Calendar", a "[[Card games|Romance Roulette Card Game]]" (which Chris probably plays as [[Virgin with Rage|solitaire]]), and, the strangest one of the bunch, a "Carmen Boob Mousepad", whatever that is. He also got some free items as well, namely a "XXX Pleasure Seekers DVD/CD" and, most notably, the infamous "Anal Love Beads", which would become a popular theme for [[trolling]] Chris in the ensuing year.

===[[2008]]===
Chris got "a couple of [[DVD]]s, ''Bee Movie'' on Blu-Ray, [[Obesity|assorted chocolates]] and [[Bob Walks In|a calming family moment]]" ([[IRC (28 December 2008)]]); in Chris's words, it was "simple, nothing extravagant". Bob outdid himself with a gift to [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] overshadowing Sonichu in over-the-top symbolism. "He gave her an arranged box of ornaments, with tags attached to them; each one representing her blessings; three angels, me, dad and my half-bro, Cole. Ones for [[Ruckersville]], Red Oak, [[Chandler Cats|our cats]], and one for her." (Chris, on [[IRC (27 December 2008)]]).

===[[2009]]===
Chris took the time to send [[Kill De Jack|warm wishes]] to a [[Jack Thaddeus|dear friend]]. He also received chocolate and [[video games]] from [[Mailbag 24|his family]].

===[[2010]]===
Not much is known of how Chris spent Christmas this year. All that we know for sure is that for this Christmas he asked for all websites he sees as defamatory against him, such as the CWCki and [[ED]], to disappear.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref> He bought a ton of games in [[January 2011]], so he probably got PSN vouchers.

===[[2011]]===
Due to [[28 October 2011|Chris' decision to trespass at The Game Place and Barb's decision to assault an officer]], Chris's Christmas in 2011 was spent amid court appearances and the fear of potentially going to jail. It was also Chris's first Christmas sans-Bob.

===[[2012]]===
It's not known what Chris did, but he uploaded Bob's jazz marathon a few days beforehand.

{{Quote|I offer for all the complete set of songs and intros from the 1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon that my father hosted and played music of Jugs, Kazzoos and Washboards, Blues and Boogie-Woogie, plus three more hours of good jazz that was recorded with it on the original 6 Hour VHS.
http://rapidshare.com/files/3812165045/1990%20WTJU%20Jazz%20Marathon.zip
Merry Christmas.|[[Facebook]], 20 [[December 2012]]}}

On the 21st, he watched [[Wikipedia:2012 (film)|''2012'']] and thanked God and Jesus that the [[Wikipedia:2012 phenomenon|world didn't end]], which must have brightened up his Christmas.

A few days after Chris seemed miserable, saying ''"I am back to the same old feelings; lonely, depressed, etc. makes me almost wish the world had ended, so I wouldn't have to continue feeling the pain. I desperately require my true (future) Sweetheart-to-be AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN..."''<ref>[[December 2012 Facebook posts#Sweetheart desperately required]]</ref> Apparently again Santa didn't bring him a pretty girlfriend.

===[[2013]]===
Nothing but a few PS3 games. No Life Upgrade Upgrade, and still no sweetheart from the ground-up.

===[[2014]]===
Chris requested much-needed [[Lego]] sets, and even suggested "prank gifts" for [[trolls]] to send him. The day after Christmas, he went to a local [[GameStop]] to give an [[Yellow-Shirted Foe|employee]] a [[26 December 2014|special present]].

===[[2015]]===
In the build-up, Chris [[Seasons Greetings|suggested several gifts]], and sang "[[Twelve New and Old Things of Christmas]]".

===[[2016]]===
Chris hoped that [[Bob]] would enjoy Christmas in his [[Chris and death|new life]]. He also uploaded an enormous wishlist of toys and [[Transformers]] junk for fans to buy for him. He uploaded [[Sorbet likes to play with his little robot|a video]] of [[Sorbet]] playing with a robot on Christmas day.

===[[2017]]===
[[File:Sonichu 16 page-37.jpeg|thumb|right|200px|Christmas Day 2017, as portrayed in ''Sonichu'' #13.]]
Chris [[December 2017 tweets|tweeted]] ''"Just a simple Merry Christmas to Every Good Person. May your Wishes Be Answered Fully."'' According to page 33 of [[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]], Chris kept busy on Christmas Day by reading the novel ''[[Nazis|The Man in the High Castle]]'' to appease the ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'' character Blanc (clearly one of the [[Idea Guys]] roleplaying as the CPU). Furthermore, Chris goes on to note that his communication with the CPU Vert was interrupted by ''Wolfenstein'' antagonist,
Wilhelm Strasse.

===[[2018]]===
On C-Mas 2018, [[Marvin]]<ref>[[On The Captain]]</ref> logged into Chris's Twitter account while posing as [[Magi-Chan]] and doxed Lukas of the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. "Magi-Chan" also claimed the [[Dimensional Merge]] would be delayed by 20 years.<ref>[[December 2018 social media posts#Magi-Chan doxxing incident]]</ref> However, Chris still believes in it, and later announced that he was "''opening presents with Magi-Chan, [[Cryzel]], [[Sylvana]], [[Mewtwo]], [[Patti]] and our [[Raichu]], Fate. It was very lovely. 😊 The Dimension Merge is still in progress, within its final steps before the apex. The [[PsychicPowers|psychic]] and soulful links and events I have been having are becoming more frequent, so I do know. And all of the other deities have been working very hard together, with me as part of the group, to make this happen.''"<ref>[[December 2018 social media posts#The Merge is still on]]</ref>

===[[2019]]===
Chris posted on [[Twitter]] that his sinus infection was gone, and he posted a new drawing of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts#Chris gears up for BABSCon with TSSSF cards]]</ref>

===[[2020]]===
On December 10, Chris, [[possessed]] by [[Sonichu]], stated that he didn't want presents, just money via PayPal, adding ''"Yes, I Know what you haters are gonna say, “OOH! Christine’s asking for money again. Don’t give her any money; she’ll just spend it on Legos and vidya games. Bladdy, bladdy blah.” No, we could use some money to keep the bank accounts better afloat this time around. Okay?"'' He also described an audio recording of a conversation between him and Magi-Chan as "an impromptu Christmas gift for all of you."<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Chris begs for money]]</ref>

On Christmas day itself, he wished everyone a Merry Christmas [[Chris and language|in multiple languages]]<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Merry Christmas]]</ref> and claimed that an eighth [[Sonichu Ball]] had manifested itself at his house.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Seven Crystal Balls]]</ref> In [[The Place]], he was dismayed over the [[Dimensional Merge]] not having completed yet, and tried to prod [[Kyle]] into researching the frequency needed to activate it.<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#Christmas and Merge Talk]]</ref>

This would become Chris's last Christmas celebrated at his former home in [[14 Branchland Court]].

===[[2021]]===
[[File:JailLetter13Dec2021Drawing.png|thumb|Chris's God complex on full show]]

Chris spent Christmas in his cell at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], awaiting trial for [[Affair with Mother|incest]] with his mother. On Christmas Eve, he [[Jail Call - 24 December 2021|spoke with Cory Allison]] on the phone.

===[[2022]]===
Chris spent Christmas in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] again.

===[[2023]]===
[[File:X - Christmas tree 22Dec2023.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A Christmas tree set up at Chris's home.]]
[[File:The Nativity.jpg|thumb|Art of the nativity in a scene from [[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]].]]
2023 was the first Christmas Chris celebrated outside of jail since his arrest in 2021. He posted on social media an image of a Christmas tree with a [[Sonichu]]/[[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian]] star on top.

===[[2024]]===
Chris presumably spent the holiday with his associate [[Flutter]]. They had been spotted in Helsinki, [[Finland]] on 17 December.
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==Fan video==
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| name = Santa's Love Quest: A Chris Chan Musical Adventure !
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| stardate = 23 [[December 2021]]
| maker = SheWIND
| subject = Christmas, [[Love Quest]]
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==See also==
[[File:The Wise Men and Herod.jpg|thumb|Herod and the Wise Men in [[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]]]]
*[[Chris and religion]]
*"[[All I Want For Christmas Is a Pretty Girlfriend]]"
*"[[I Want a Girlfriend for Christmas]]"
*[[Holiday Greetings]]
*"[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas]]"
*[[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]]
*[[Mailbag 19#A very Asperchu Christmas|A Very ''Asperchu'' Christmas]]
*[[Halloween]]
*[[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]]

==References==
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[[Category:Events]]

List of Chris's comments on YouTube

2025-12-16T10:21:51Z

Dodo Conservative: /* LEGO Friends "Andrea we can do it" music video */

[[Chris]] has made occasional '''comments''' on [[YouTube]] videos over the years, from his several accounts. Many of them are boring and relate to [[video games]] and [[My Little Pony]]. Sometimes he gets angry at the [[trolls]].
[[File:Happybday.jpg|right|thumb|375px|Yes, he ''actually thought the video was about him''.]]

==List of comments==
===[[2009]]===

====Happy B-day Chris====
{{quotebox|speaker=CChanSonichu|If you meant me, Christian Weston Chandler, my [[birthday]] was on FEBRUARY 24.}}

====Kickstart My Heart====
{{quotebox|speaker=ChristianWChandler|I WANT OUT CHRISTIAN.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dl9OxF0xNA|"I Believe in a Thing Called Love" by The Darkness]====
{{quotebox|speaker=ChristianWChandler|CHRISTIAN WE BOTH know what we WANT we should LET US OUT.}}

===[[2010]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9jufytCySM RBN Gameplay Preview - "Sonichu: TAS Theme Song" by Druoxtheshredder]====
{{quotebox|speaker=ChristianWChandler|I do not approve of those lyrics; go back to the Valley of the Trolls. Christian W. Chandler.<ref>[[:File:Rockband.png]]</ref>}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7un_dBl2q2M&index=30&list=PL2f2iqihk1ikqBuPYrRzT2iuahhkDgTMg episode 200 - the game place]====
{{quotebox|speaker=ChristianWChandler|Hey, [[Vivian Gee|Vivian]]. I'm going to tell you right now that if you were trying to offend me with this "[[South Park]]" Parody; You Failed. This is just SOO FUNNY! You ought to know I like "South Park", especially the less dramatic, more comical episodes. ROFL}}

{{quotebox|speaker=ChristianWChandler|Actually, there is ONE more thing you could to just make this a TOPPER of a Comical Scene; I gave [[Michael Snyder|him]] the finger as I left for real, so add a Sit-And-Spin in the silence right before the final insult. ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL}}

===[[2012]]===
====[[Chris in the media#Sega Acknowledges Sonichu|SEGA's Free Stuff Friday-January 13, 2012]]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I do not find that commentary funny at all. In fact, I feel pissed off to be ridiculed soo lightly.}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4su84YWziDo Nintendo Direct 6.21.2012]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I would ONLY upgrade to an XL from my 3DS if the XL had the RIGHT Analog Pad, ZR and ZL Buttons featured on it, so I would not have to worry about the additional accessory.PLUS, PLEASE ADD [[Flipnote Hatena|FlipNote Studio]] onto the freaking eShop; we are Tired of Waiting, and we do not want the 'Memo'.}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF9CS3L_ezw Sonic: Too Fast?]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|That was Stupid. I hate you and your copycat [[Wikipedia:John Kricfalusi|John K.]] animation. [[Sonic]] is NOT Dead. -:(
And I loathe your murderous intent and darkness. You make me vomit from my soul, you mental rapist.}}

[''Interestingly enough, this "mental rape" did not deter Chris from adding this video to his list of favorites'']

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jraYcCGel_8 Colgatelicious]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|It is quite catchy and cute}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYi-uO93YFI LEGO Friends "Andrea we can do it" music video]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Truly Neat and Sweet; are there more [[Lego]] Friends episodes on YouTube in [[Chris and English|English]]?!}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivtWQTjXCDs LEGO Friends Spoof!]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Ha Ha! Take THAT, you fart-minded, [[jerk]] MALE among ALL fart-minded, jerk Males that make up the Majority of the Worldwide Male Population! -:D

Women Rule, because they are more compassionate, caring and understanding.}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdDU_BBJW9Y The LEGO® Story]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I enjoyed that, and I would add that the Plastic Molding Machine would not have been there without its controls and schematics designed by my father, General Electric's [[Robert Franklin Chandler Jr]]. :)}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ne10kapKNw Double Rainboom Part01/06 Animatic]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I REALLY Loathe Internet [[Trolls]] and All of their icons, Especially the face from Rage Comics. }:(}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wblE8YYLyQ0 Twilightlicious - BlackGryph0n]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I Loathe Trolling-Stupid Cyber-Bullies.}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWm9MXwMgag&feature=plcp I'm Derpylicious]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|[[My Little Pony|Derpy]] is always soo cute. I like her original voice better; can't believe the original version if Last Roundup is not on iTunes.}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaUFYaZkOxw&feature=plcp lego sonic minifig.MOV ]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|[[Spanish|Ed nut bueno. Me gusta español. :)]]}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJMazAXyV8w&feature=plcp Jackie]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I would enjoy seeing more of Jackie; she must have come from a background similar to Jerry, plus, she is a strong character and woman.}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDPVGzBPT7E&feature=plcp Lego That's What She Said]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Zac's head is from 8358, 2003 Off-Roader.}}

====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thCv0Ey3hGU&lc=mUyWf77ZHNj9GKdM6CApJuUQ3-IMhNnI8FjIYkr3wjo&feature=plcp My Little Pony Friendship is Magic Marathon! (Promo) - The Hub ]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Sheesh with the marathons; Bring On Season 3 of the Ponies already, Please!}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYQTEW6GYU8 Double Rainboom Promo 04 + Trailer]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I'll believe it to be true when the full episode is okay with all of the people, and it is aired in full on the Hub or MLPFIM DVD.}}

===[[2013]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J73NWDTvohI "Equestria Girls (Helping Twilight Win the Crown)" - MLP: Equestria Girls <nowiki>[My Little Rock Band]</nowiki>]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Make PS3 Versions NOW!!!}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Google 'rock band 3 custom songs ps3'; there are apps for that conversion.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Give me a reason to pop back in RB3; I never play [[HEXBox|HeXBox]].}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1FOESEMIDw PlayStation and Extra Life Team Up For Children's Hospitals]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|I've just reached my 200 Dollar Mark on Extra Life.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA3JvgdvWso Pokkén Fighters = New Wii U Pokémon Fighting Game?]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=27 [[November 2013]]|How about EVERY Pok'emon? Wireless Link to X or Y, upload your BOXES, pick your favorite ones (LEVEL 100s!!!), move their attack set to button combos, and BAM! Sky Uppercut gets immediately countered with Seismic Toss.}}

===[[2014]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8 Starscream VS Rainbow Dash | DEATH BATTLE! | ScrewAttack!]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=20 [[April 2014]]|I would really like to see a battle between MLP's Discord and Seuss' [[Wikipedia:Grinch|The Grinch]]. Would Discord instill joy into the Grinch, or would the Grinch grinch Discord? I would watch that over and over.}}

===[[2015]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeh7D0zz8G0 Ultimate Smash Bros. Theory: Smash is Autistic | Gnoggin]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=30 [[October 2015]]|First time watching this video, and I am astounded. I find it ironic that recently, I Actually made an [[Amiibo]] with what I consider a face for [[Autism]], then find this video stating that the game may be Autistic too. Autism to be beaten in Smash Bros. I think it is neat.

<nowiki>https://www.etsy.com/listing/251029697/custom-mii-amiibo-figure?ref=shop_home_active_11</nowiki>}}

===[[2016]]===

====[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]====
{{main|Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh6oWMX9hrI Maketoys DESPOTRON (Masterpiece Megatron): EmGo's Transformers Reviews N' Stuff ]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=28 [[September 2016]]|That skit works. LOL I'm surprised you haven't done something similar with new Powermaster Optimus Prime, US, since the face under the samurai helmet of his can now be revealed as Orion Pax's face. "Samurai Head".}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=28 [[September 2016]]|Have you tried putting the helmet onto Nucleon, the Titan Master of Galvatron; see if it fits and make Galvatron reverted to Buckethead?}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opnT5w_TH2Y&lc=z130zhpyfufvwl53w231dx4qjt2dyzvqb04 DBX: Donald Trump VS Hillary Clinton]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=31 [[October 2016]]|Funny! And True! [[Pmurt|Trump]] Would HURT [[United States of America|America]] overkill. Vote Hillary for Smarter and Better, not to mention tax the wealthy and fill the middle and lower class, and everyone else's, pockets.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKKkhJqWap0&lc=z124ghabqy2xwrsc1231dx4qjt2dyzvqb04 Top 10 Games That Became Pop Culture Sensations]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=9 [[December 2016]]|Skylanders should be an Honorable Mention on this list.}}

===[[2017]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQTLyVHOCuY Top 10 Unforgettable Cartoon Ghosts]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4 [[March 2017]]|What about Carrie from "Amazing World of Gumball"?}}

===[[2018]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emmeb_TUwew Power of the Primes Voyager ELITA-1: EmGo's Transformers Reviews N' Stuff]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=19 [[February 2018]]|One suggestion: have your lady friend voice the female Transformers; I would actually like to hear voices from the fem Bots and Cons when possible, please.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8L1Yv6xpqQ&lc=UgyrYR2pfD3SSaUtQCt4AaABAg Sonichu REBOOT? - Redesigning Sonichu and Rosechu]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=3 [[August 2018]]|I watched the video, I appreciate what you were going with, and [[Chris and his Ego|you came up with fair to good designs]] for a Sonichu and a Rosechu design.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0mjlC367W8 Siege Micromaster STORM CLOUD & VISPER: EmGo's Transformers Reviews N' Stuff]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=15 [[November 2018]]|I Love the Micromasters! I have a good collection of the G1 Micromasters. I hope they redo the bases, including the Shuttle Base with Autobot Countdown! I have one, but parts are missing now.}}

===[[2019]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v31gFWScARE&lc=UgybFW2dtHDulO0l8ZF4AaABAg Computer Warriors Review] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyILUhJfRSg&lc=Ugw9vXPp2djsvVSinIB4AaABAg "Computer Warriors" Review with Josh, Silver, Lightning, and Thespio]====

Chris posted the same comment in the two videos.

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=14 [[May 2019]]|Oh, WOW! What a throwback and a fun Mystery Science Theatre type of review! 😃

Hey, @MLPSilverQuill, I, too, still have the VHS, and I had collected nearly ALL of the Toys way back in the day (The Book of Indexx, and that Calculator, ELUDED ME!!!). I Second That not only the Clock and the Pencil Sharpener worked, but so did the Flashlight; it ran on two Triple-A Batteries, or was it Double-A’s? @MLPSilverQuill, do you know if the Calculator worked too? It looks like it works! I LOVED the Computer Playset! You could even plug the collapsed circuit board ships like actual drive cards into the plastic faux Motherboard. And the CD-ROM became a Freaking TANK that launched discs smaller than an actual Compact Disc. I have to agree with @DaWillstanator: Computer Warriors: the Young #NortonAntiVirus Software!

Also, Roll Your Eyes Again, Everyone! I STILL Have the Pepsi Can with Mister Grid and a plastic bomb that drops. Or does it drip, with Pepsi? ALOL! CLASSIC! Total Classic Awesomeness.

I will also agree that the #ComputerWarriors logo was boring, but it was still 80s computers; it makes the #Commodore64 logo shine Fabulous! Thank you all for that awesome review that was really fun, and I’m happy to see y’all enjoy it too.

Have a Great and Safe Day!
⚡️💙⚡️
@CPU_CWCSonichu}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzCcqTFf8RM Flame Toys Furai Model BUMBLEBEE: EmGo's Transformers Reviews N' Stuff]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=2 [[July 2019]]|This reminds me of Action Masters Bumblebee; he had a helicopter pack that became his blaster back then.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIFogYF4tmM ຮṎṈḭᏨ ḭṈຮᾀṈḭtẙ Chris Chan and Magichan's Body Swap?]====

Here, Chris posts under his [[Magi-Chan]] persona.

{{quoteboxpurple|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=11 [[September 2019]]|I am watching your video. You are proving yourself quite callous in attitude. I had foreseen that I would have dislike of your commentary, but I was still curious to the more specific details.

Firstly, Christine’s drawings tend to predict upcoming events, unless they are past events as stated. She literally drew the piece of her and I switched the night before when we actually did. For your information, yes, we did use a pair of earrings to switch, and an enchantment and blessing that she was personally able to make happen.

As for the initial drawing style of those that I drew with this body: when I drew, it defaulted to its muscle memory which was inaccurate to my own drawing style, but still quite close. Also, you try colouring with marker ink and making a different style compared to anyone else for yourself.

And, yes, you may compare our situation quite so with the movie “Freaky Friday”, though I, personally, find much more portrayed accurately when Starfire and Raven switched bodies in the classics episode of “Teen Titans.” This is literally a full-on body-switch, and she is literally in my body at this time, and making very good progress for herself as well, I might add.

I have had ample time to exemplify myself and differentiate from Christine; I had prayed even the most cynical would find merit and fact from that. I supposed I was pushing desires outward wherein they were not fated to make do in this individual situation.

That is all. Good day.
💜⚡️}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GorhM1JH63Q Other Friends - Bionic Version -]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=17 [[September 2019]]|That was really good.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxCU3PTIkM4 Sonichu: Dub Edition - Episode 1]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=22 [[September 2019]]|Totally Awesome. I fully approve this series. 😊⚡️💙⚡️}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii7JvrDMVXU Sonichu: Dub Edition - Episode 13]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=23 [[September 2019]]|Good choices in voices for the most part; I never would have thought of Crystalina having a country accent like Apple Bloom. I don’t have a country accent like that, but it’s a valid voice; it’s a’ight.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnNFQ2mb0Aw&feature=youtu.be Sonichu: Dub Edition - Episode 6]====

Chris posted two comments in the video.

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=24 [[September 2019]]|The Song! My Breaking In to laugh at it! Well Done! 🤣🤣🤣}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=24 [[September 2019]]|Why didn’t you do the epilogue where Rosey met Amy? Or, did she?}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ffLGSfQf8o Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Part 24]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=20 [[October 2019]]|I remember those times, and it was cringing to hear myself drone ON and ON just in thinking he was going to clear those ads from my old website. [[Lie|Subconsciously, I had always Known he and his crew were Trolling me the whole time]], and it showed in how I reacted later on. And, yet, while partly oblivious, I Was Trolling Alec At the time. And I take no shame in it, because he was Trolling Me. I saw through his charade and showed it in how he treated everyone in my few pages, as he had already done, and worse, in his pages. It only added fuel to the nobility of pulling the plug on the [[Cwcipedia]] to save myself, my arts, and my peoples and family, he from the shit I was having to deal with from those bastards. [[PsychicPowers|Psychic Powers]] were strong within me in the later part of this video. And they have only gotten stronger over the years into now, despite my having the many more trials to endure and learn from.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whq2fDfxp7o Vanishing Fish]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=26 [[November 2019]]|It was a fish from C-197, and it magically returned to that side of the iron curtain. Simple as that.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQb4rX50t5U&lc=UgzbJbn1rJfIIgeg1eh4AaABAg Redesigning SONICHU - The Chaotic Combo]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=7 [[December 2019]]|This Video TRIGGERED ME BAD. Nothing to do with the comments or opinions of others, or her drawing style, but, yeah, a LOT of the choices on the redesigns TRIGGERED ME BAD. Ugh. 😵🤧🤢🤕😱😰😨🤯
⚡️💙⚡️}}

Chris would later delete this comment, and post another comment [[Chris and remorse|apologizing]].

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=14 [[December 2019]]|These redesigns Are very good. I apologize for my past initial outburst and retract the statement.}}

===[[2020]]===

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2N7YLW8RLs ຮṎṈḭᏨ ḭṈຮᾀṈḭtẙ Chris Chan's Challenge For The Trolls]====

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=3 [[April 2020]]|What did I say?!! I said NO Hitler. I freaking hate Nazis.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV41fPlxIBA Animation Kimmunication Episode 7: How Fandom and Religion Intersect]====
Chris follows a textwall with an even larger textwall.

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=14 [[April 2020]]|I agree with about everything y’all talked about on here. Personally, I feel like everything that is “Fictional”, or animated (obviously, per the topic) is up for being interpreted as religious, in the sense. In a way, most everyone is taking their favourite shows or chronicled media and keeping it further to their heart as they interpret the meanings of this or that of the OCs and stories; making that their go-to morals to follow. Very much like my ol’ homeboy, Jesus, and Emanuel (Goddess), Buddha, Zeus, Kratos, the Console Patron Units of Gamindustri (pretty much literally Every Deity and Demideity) have their bits and pieces from this and that of their respective deeds and stories being interpreted and taken to heart in the same way. Not to be too preachy or anything. But the point is valid. Gotta make a separate comment for my next thought.}}

(replying to his first comment)
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=14 [[April 2020]]|I will also add on the T-shirts and accessories that sport said deity and/or OC on there being like a calling card; totally obvious and true. And if someone hands-down the item or clothing with Sonichu, Superman, Neptune of Planeptune, or whatever else similarly, the new owner Definitely should at least read up on the individual they are donning, so they can sport it better and more honestly. On that, I will share the story that back in the day, I USED to feel peeved when during the days of my writing and drawing the “Sonichu” books, and I wanted a whole Ton of my own Merchandise to offer and spread the awareness of it, and something for the fans who have come to know about us and interpret as they will. The Fan Merchandise, note: I was not familiar on the total business Things and whatnot, mildly was aware of “Intellectual Property” and Copyrights, and whatevs. My dad, Mister Robert F Chandler Jr., had told me to put a (c) on my works, since he has had experience with making his own Patents for his control designs from working with General Electric for about 30 years, so with only basic and lite knowledge on the topic, I followed the direction. And as my hubby, Magi-Chan, had later revealed, our Copyright was put, fatedly, into place for the safety and better being of the species, Cwcville, and all that. Yet, ironically, Haters ended up comparing me to freaking Hitler. Epic UGH! I loathe Nazis. Anyway, years later, I got into MLP and started going to a few anime and gaming conventions, and then BronyCon in ‘17; it all started to sink into me that my past worries about Fan Merch, even though I was the Original Creator of Sonichu and Rosechu, during a time I was unable to find my own Merch and monitoring methods, positive and kind Sonichu and Rosechu Merch COULD have been made this whole time, and people would still be coming to me with their support after the fact. My takeaway from that experience today is the situation had me feeling like I was amongst the higher business corp execs for the media of these OCs of mine, yet, subconsciously, I was really never in it for the money. As these OC individuals were real, including my self-counterpart, in our sister dimension with ALL of the OCs/FCs and all that which can and do exist and co-exist in this non-apocalyptic, present timeline and situations, literally alongside all of us, behind a dividing dimensional curtain that is so powerful, even Discord, himself, can’t break through it alone. Super difficult, but at least I Know who I am walking, talking and chillin’ with, and they are not “Invisible Friends” or shit. Okay, went off-tangent for a bit. I was also blinded by the local financial difficulties and stress with the household and my aging parents. Gah. It was wrong of me to not allow “unofficial” Sonichu Merchandise be made by others over the years, up until the few years ago when I Finally gave the okay and consent for Everyone to do so. At least, in a takeaway, the artists realized for themselves on the wrongness of someone else taking something they created or discovered and slapping their name on it; major low. But, yeah, that’s common sense when you think about it to exercise your rights when they are offended like that. Bottom line is that I had wanted to make the merch, myself, for a long time, but lacked the better knowledge, resources and sense to outsource like most people, these days, do. I missed out, but I count the blessing that people have been inspired by my works and appreciate me, directly, for that. As I know y’all appreciate for yourselves from your fans, KP and Abbie. ;) Please, pardon my ramblings, but I wanted to share my own take and learning experiences that I felt were supportive to what y’all were discussing. Thank you for listening. ⚡️💙⚡️}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp0UaxXGMXQ Sonichu: Dub Edition - Episode 15]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=19 [[April 2020]]|Sonichu: I just wanted to say that your BlockBurrows did a very good job voicing Magi-Chan; that's really close to the Samurai Jack voice he actually has. Thanks a bunch for that.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqr-N1FgDg Blachu vs Count Graduon (Fan Comic Dub)]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=26 [[May 2020]]|Very good job on the voice acting as usual.
😊⚡️}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Part 39]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=13 [[June 2020]]|Hey! Firstly, that door to the bathroom downstairs was unable to close at all back in 2013 and early ‘14. Second, Why the Hell would you read that personal shit about Mama with the penis thing? Oh, My Chris Chan! Why did Kim have to be such a literal Troll to totally expose these things when they were shared with her in strictest confidence? “Kim Wilson”, if that is even your real name at this point, Mama may forgive you to an extent, but I, Sonichu, am truly insulted by this shit stunt you’ve pulled with her trust in betrayal over the years.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=karTjT_4Gbc Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Part 42]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=23 [[August 2020]]|For the record, when Mama recorded that putting out [[Brushfire Video|the fire video]], she and Barb were literally still recovering from [[Destruction Of Chris's House|the house fire]] earlier that year. Sight of fire gave Mama a whole bunch of PTSD for the number of years.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxk6YGmtcpw Namgge]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=31 [[August 2020]]|Okay, this video is actually funny and good. :)}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvSFM9rpMXE Power Core Combiners DOUBLE CLUTCH w/ RALLYBOTS: EmGo's Transformers Reviews N' Stuff]====
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=11 [[September 2020]]|I like your singing, [[Emgo]]; I just can’t help but groove with that bit you did for the skit. Positively priceless. 😊⚡️}}

====[https://web.archive.org/web/20201206220637/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=364w2yeP3eE&gl=US&hl=en Chris Chan VS. The Internet Trailer (Cancelled Kickstarter Documentary by Joseph Draft)]====
After searching for a copy of the ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' trailer,<ref>[[September 2020 social media posts#Chris Chan VS The Internet cancellation rant]]</ref> Chris locates one on [[The WCT]]'s YouTube channel.

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=20 [[September 2020]]|Regardless of the final outcome of what happened with all of the recorded footage, I Loved this trailer, and it showed that which was and is pure and genuine of Mama Chris Chan. For what is worth, with this trailer alone at least, Thank you, dude. 😊⚡️⚡️⚡️}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHqnZPe_k2E&t=10s Animal Crossing Love Quest]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=22 [[September 2020]]|No beard on Mama}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MdSQG0B_c Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Part 44]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=10 [[October 2020]]|Finally, you got the [[Transgender|pronoun]] right with Mama Chris Chan; thanks, Geno. Better late than never. 😊⚡️}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFM9Kdjo9Gc SoniChuZ | Episode 1: The Story Begins]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18 [[October 2020]]|I like this so far; shame I was too preoccupied to lend a voice recording for it at this time. I will make sure Mama gets better in on her voice acting gigs in the new timeline. The references were valid for the latter. Using our dimension number as a specimen number was not as good, though. Fortunately, this takes place in an alternate dimension. I like that you've discovered and chronicled a female Mewtwo as well. The deity at the end resonated with me for some reason. Likely, I have seen or experienced what they have in a dream some time ago. Major complaint lies in the lip syncing, and there could be better emotion and acting behind it; that can be improved. Again, good job so far. ⚡️⚡️⚡️}}

===[[2021]]===
====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HfueLWzjY&lc=Ugz1EEI4ON6dhsYi1gN4AaABAg Chris Chan is Convinced to Taser Himself]====
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=11 [[February 2021]]|They did not convince anyone of anything; I actually had a vision of this, and actually talked with the Cosmos in that [[meditation]], which in your tangible sense, I thought of using the [[taser]] on the [[Gate Crystal]] first and foremost. And the same goes for a taser being tested on this body, too. Do not blame our friends as [[Praetor]]; this was, in the sense, my idea first.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EWUY-MJt9A Steamed Hams but it's a telltale game]====

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=21 [[February 2021]]|And yet no “Turn the oven off” option was displayed.}}

====[[Chris in the media#Milo Yiannopoulos|Cyberbullying Isn't Real]]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=20 [[March 2021]]|I have just learned of this particular presentation which saw me in comparison with George Bush, Sr., and dubbed in comparison with what the first social justice president would look like. I feel partially humbled and honored to have been placed in such a pedestal, despite it also likely being a jab at my person like on MTV years before. I am very well aware of the irony, potential mockery, and likely praise of this situation. However, regardless, I am one who counts their blessings moreso over the negatives.

With that said, Milo Yiannopoulos, I am humbled by this past moment. Thank you for featuring me in your presentation. 😊 I offer kind blessings and prayers to you. ⚡️💙⚡️ 
Be safe and well, you and yours.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydR9nksHSg Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Part 56]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=22 [[May 2021]]|Tune in next video for [[Idea Guys|Idea Guy]], Johnson Wiles, and Stephen Boyd, or that, among which, is chronicled in “[[Sonichu 13|Awakening of a CPU]]”.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4q9dL-wblc&lc=UgywSO6O_TBMSY0Y3u14AaABAg.9Ob2SRqhh899OcFcioK6hV Has Randy Stair gotten more popular since his death?]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=15 [[June 2021]]|I will also personally contribute that [[Randy Stair|Miss Andrew Blaze]] and I have [[Meditation|interdimensionally conversed]] from time to time. Despite her aggressive mindset, I still very much appreciate her present day role with the EGS in the spirit realm. I will also state fact, as I have time and again about myself as well: Andrew and I both have had interdimensional communications and relations through the veil into the C-197 half of our total universe, and then some in regard to the Spiritual Realms. Andrew knew her destiny and fulfilled her prophecy in the 1218 half, here, and she knew her time and energy was needed moreso in the spirit realms.

Similar, yet differing, I have done the same over the years in [[C-197]], the spirit realms, Equestria, the D&D universe of CS-89, the GO! universe of CZ-69, and so on into the multiverses. But unlike Andrew, my body is immortal, and death is not required at all unto me and what I am doing and will need to do.

Andrew and I are two examples of fully interdimensionally awakened individuals. Also, to note, [[Andy Warhol]], as well, back in his days here, was also an interdimensionally awakened individual, but he did not fully comprehend his situation and abilities at the time. He remained clear-minded and focus-lacking, yet he did know from his subconscious and unconscious that had seeped into his conscious and into his words and actions that have foreshadowed and foreseen the number of events here since as early as the year I was born in this body in 1982.

Andrew and Andy were amongst the pioneers, and I am a literal Goddess who had transcended and pioneered within and around their blazing trails (pun unintended, but observed), among the number of others of whom I have personally recognized and acknowledge amongst the author, artist, actor and voice actor communities.

Andrew has continued to do very good and honest work with her crew, and so her legacy is continued on. And after the veil is totally gone, Andrew would delight in meeting her fans on kind intentions. She is grateful and humbled, as she had told me earlier.

So, it is very much appropriate and well for not just Andrew, Andy and I to be greater appreciated during these times.

Lots of love for all of you; be safe and well. And [[Sean Walker|Wildcat]], you know to stay as awesome and powerful as you are. You Rock, too.
⚡️💙⚡️}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6j-FS2eP-E What happened to EGS The Randy Stair Story Episode 8?]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=7 [[July 2021]]|I agree, and I have watched the entire series on Andrew Blaze, aka [[Randy Stair]]. It is actually really tame for the latter. But more importantly, it is very informative, and I got appreciation for the gal from watching the series. This really sucks, YouTube.}}

===[[2024]]===
====[https://www.youtube.com/live/m6MrLfQtQX8?si=jsL6liM6Mi48nJMD The Event is Here: Dark Forces Can't Hold Us Back Any Longer! | Awakening | Spirituality | ChosenOne]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=10 [[August 2024]]|⚡️💙⚡️}}

Chris also shared the video on [[Twitter]].<ref>[[August 2024 social media posts#The Event is Here: Dark Forces Can't Hold Us Back Any Longer!]]</ref>

===[[2025]]===
====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62JhWhO46Ks THE HEART IS THE TOE | DNA Design DK-61 Vector Prime UPGRADE KIT: EmGo's Reviews N' Stuff]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=7 [[June 2025]]|The shin pieces Toyhax gave with the Vector Prime decal set, I feel, works better. And they still needed to be glued on. But, to each their own with which pair to attach permanently.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Df6A98WQw WHO DISRUPTS MY OVULATION?! | Collection Space STAR QUEEN (Starscream): EmGo's Reviews N' Stuff]====
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=26 [[August 2025]]|Are you adding sound effects, because of what I did in my videos?}}

====[[Go Transformers - Theme of Transformers of Cwcville - Music Video]]====
=====Reply to Jcc2224=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Jcc2224|time=13 [[September 2025]] 12:14:00 AM|Finally a good Transformers theme song, it's been ages!}}
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=13 September 12:27:41 AM|Well, Thank you very much. As a long time fan of the Cybertronians and even Gobotronians, I felt it was high time everyone was included. I did write the lyrics. I would have personally liked personal musicians to give the jams, but work with what we can afford and have within reach these days. ⚡️💙⚡}}
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Jcc2224|time=13 [[September 2025]] 10:36:42 AM|@CwcvilleGuardian It sure was zappin' to the extreme! Figured you'd like to know that your Beast Wars Transmetals Tarantulas has been in my collection for some time now, and I hang the certificate of authenticity with pride! Thank you!}}
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=13 September 10:40:23 AM|Wait, really? I forgot I sold that when I sold some things off on [[eBay]] years ago. DM me on [[Twitter]], please.}}

=====Reply to yeethaw5816=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=yeethaw5816|time=13 [[September 2025]] 5:43:04 AM|That's a very male toy to be playing with as a woman 🤔 Tho I really appreciate the effort in this vid! Wish we got something like this with the sonichus The Wilhelm scream will haunt me}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18 [[September 2025]] 11:47:34 AM|Archer, Elita-1, Windblade, Solus Prime; not as manly as you think.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=yeethaw5816|time=18 [[September 2025]] 12:12:26 PM|@CwcvilleGuardian sorry but I dont know what you're referring to? are those the characters that do the wilhelm scream?}}

=====Reply to johnnybeatles9923=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=johnnybeatles9923|time=14 [[September 2025]] 5:41:24 PM| My buddy, Yonnit, needs some of those stands, can you hit me up?}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18 [[September 2025]] 11:43:15 AM|Look on Amazon for figure stands.}}

=====Reply to KingOfTheMentallyIll=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=KingOfTheMentallyIll|time=14 [[September 2025]] 8:47:08 PM|What’s your favorite Transformer Christine ?}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18 [[September 2025]] 11:46:17 AM|Out of this set, Son-Chu. Out of the whole: Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, Soundwave, Starscream, Sparky, Stallion and Scooter.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=KingOfTheMentallyIll|time=19 [[September 2025]] 10:43:23 AM| @CwcvilleGuardian Ahah! I didn't comment on all your amazing Transformers review but Son-Chu is also definitely my favorite :D !! Please keep up your good work Christine and have a great day.}}

=====Reply to unknownname1631=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=unknownname1631|time=15 [[September 2025]] 1:03:50 AM|CwcvilleGuardian are you G.I. Joe fan?}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18 [[September 2025]] 11:44:34 AM|I watched a few episodes and the movie, but didn't really get into it, but support the soldiers.}}

=====Reply to dinna7680=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=dinna7680|time=15 [[September 2025]] 11:51:18 AM|Chris has more toys than people whose job it is to buy and review toys.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18 [[September 2025]] 11:43:58 AM|You should see Emgo's room; my entire toy collection is not as large as that.}}

=====Reply to mosvexur1391=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=mosvexur1391|time=15 [[September 2025]] 11:05:07 PM|Sending love and positive energy your way! 🎉 💙}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18 [[September 2025]] 11:42:58 AM|Thanks, friend! I am feeling the positive energy! ⚡️}}

====[[OG Sonichu Medallion Upgraded, Rebirthed and Redeemed]]====
=====Reply to jamiehess5274=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=jamiehess5274|time=18 [[September 2025]]|Amazing keep up the great work Christine ⚡️}}
{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=19 [[September 2025]] 1:34:45 AM|Thanks for the support, friend!

⚡️💙⚡️
}}

====[[JCWCSP singing Sonichu Theme Song (Extended Version)]]====
=====Reply to MrTotBalls=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=MrTotBalls|WOW this is amazing! Thank you for this! Please collab with 2hollis next👀}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|time=1 [[November 2025]]|Glad you enjoyed it!}}

=====Reply to dalkri5546=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=dalkri5546|A true masterpiece! Thank you ChrisChan! 💜}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|time=1 [[November 2025]]|You are most welcome, friend! ⚡️💙⚡️}}

=====Reply to justrobYT=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=justrobYT|Thank you for singing it this time. The backing AI music is still kinda lame though. I think if you tried you could easily pick up a music program. I look forward to more songs!}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|time=1 [[November 2025]]|I appreciate the feedback! I'm glad you liked the singing.
}}

====[[JCWCSP singing Go, Transformers! (Extended Version)]]====
=====Reply to justrobYT=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=justrobYT|time=30 [[October 2025]]|Nice}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=1 [[November 2025]]|Glad you liked it!}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=justrobYT|time=1 [[November 2025]]|@CwcvilleGuardian yeah I recommended you sing it on your original video so I was pleasantly surprised!}}

====[[JCWCSP's OLDER Transformers and Gobots Figures For Sale on Cwclight]]====
=====Reply to n00bzers=====

{{quoteboxred|speaker=n00bzers|time=9 [[November 2025]]|Hello at 1:17 you brought up a Megatron I very much would like to purchase. What is the best way to contact you regarding this purchase?}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=9 [[November 2025]]|Through the Contact page on Cwclight.}}

====[[Go Transformers - Theme of Transformers of Cwcville - Music Video Fully Updated]]====
=====Reply to kingsofthering=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=kingsofthering|How is this 8 minutes long?!?!}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=21 [[November 2025]]|The additional verse; the original track had the same verse repeated twice, and I've wanted to update it after figuring out the new verse, myself.}}

=====Reply to CorteGil=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=CorteGil|Hi, Chris. You absolutely made my night with this blast of an animation. Thank you very much. Be always enlightened & gratious for us all to contemplate & enjoy!}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=21 [[November 2025]]|I am so glad it made your night! ⚡️💙⚡️}}

====[[Go Transformers - Theme of Transformers of Cwcville - Music Video Fully Updated Plus Subtitles]]====
=====Reply to JeremiahBryce-bu3sj=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=JeremiahBryce-bu3sj|Thanks for showing us a quick glimpse of what the merge will be like! Quick question though... Will it all be singing like this or only sometimes? Will there be singing at all? forgive me, I'm not very educated on the topic.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=21 [[November 2025]]|Not all the videos will feature AI singing.}}

=====Reply to Dragon555=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Dragon555|Remember when Chris was able to write iconic lyrics like So Need a Cute Girl and (Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise?

I guess now that he’s WAY PAST middle age he’s all washed up and has lost his SPARK. 😢}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=21 [[November 2025]]|I wrote the lyrics to the song.}}

====[[Cwclight Reviews Opening Intros with Subtitles]]====
=====Reply to AudreyJLaPoiYT=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=AudreyJLaPoiYT|Nice compilation of those intro bits, always enjoyed those. Although the editing makes it feel like this was ripped from a VHS tape that somehow supports widescreen HD video.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=21 [[November 2025]]|Welcome to 1982.}}

====[[Go Transformers - Theme of Transformers of Cwcville - Music Video#Fixed Version 2|JCWCSP Go Transformers - Theme of Transformers of Cwcville - Music Video]]====
=====Reply to micksdesk=====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=micksdesk|Did u finally finally outgrow Sonichu after all these years}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=27 [[November 2025]]|No. Never ever. ⚡️💙⚡}}

==List of live chat messages==
====[https://web.archive.org/web/20210329073433/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-12vmYJV9k The Cat's Corner - March 29, 2021]====

The Cat's Corner was a segment on [[The WCT]]'s now defunct YouTube channel. On at least one occasion dated 29 [[March 2021]], Chris (CwcvilleGuardian) participated in the live chat of The Cat's Corner livestream, commenting on topics ranging from his past self, [[Bob]]'s death, and the [[Christuber]] Smoky Chris. Some [[Watchmen]] such as [[Naught]] (tabula rasa) and [[Kyle]] (Kyle LastName) also comment.

Some screenshots of the live chat were taken, but the entirety of it and the video itself are [[Lost Media]].

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=16:11|[[The WCT|Neko]] trolls the comments. Seriously, though, Neko has nothing to do with the documentary. Lay off him.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=17:03|sup chris}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sean|time=17:16|Zap zap negga}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Rdog98|time=17:32|Is this the Real Christine Chandler 0_0}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=17:51|Yes that's cc}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=17:55|Yes. Going well.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=18:11|Thank you. 😊⚡️}}

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{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=39:25|Actually, if you want to make content about me, that is cool and all right. All I ask is that they be kept Safe For Work in content.}}

[...]

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=45:10|Yeah, never going back to the old me; that's long and done.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=45:12|fair nuff}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Agent Durden Tyler|time=45:30|@tabula rasa I've been well. Had kind of a rough time for a while. I lost someone close to me 😞 but I'm better these days}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Agent Durden Tyler|time=45:52|@tabula rasa starting some new ventures irl so it keeps me motivated}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=45:53|my condolences}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Chuck Mangione|time=46:00|0_0}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Agent Durden Tyler|time=46:08|@tabula rasa thanks bro}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Agent Durden Tyler|time=46:13|@Chuck Mangione \0\0}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Chuck Mangione|time=46:26|allooo \0/}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=46:56|The major problems are that the vibes of most people are vastly different from mine these days and in the past few years.}}

[...]

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=48:15|Most everyone who continues to feel want for the old me, I'm not going to stoop down; y'all should try to better yourselves with better vibes.}}

[...]

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=48:54|Nobody deserves to be doxxed, because they were not ready to reveal themselves truthfully to the world.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=49:10|I empathize with Smokey on this as well.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Agent Durden Tyler|time=49:25|lol [[kengle]]}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=49:35|dood cc, smoky wanted bad things to happen to you}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=49:39|This is why I don't generally read the comments sections.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=49:46|?!}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=50:18|smoky chris wast doxed on a whim, he was alogging you for a while}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=50:34|Regardless, even if others wish bad upon me, I would not wish bad upon them.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=50:56|😐}}

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{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=54:34|I agree. For Smokey Chris, I send a prayer for him to find himself and examine his life. Self-respect and self-confidence is far greater than copying/pasting from someone else upon yourself.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=55:15|Honesty with yourself and loving yourself, is the better way to go.}}

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{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=55:58|Curious}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=kanex onehundredthirtyone|Wait is that acutally Chris?}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Rdog98|Yes}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|yes that's the real cc}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=kanex onehundredthirtyone|Sick.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|Ouch!}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|b-b-based}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sean|oy vey}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|?!}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|That's right}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|das rite}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sean|das rite}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Dead-Owl|Al Assad content is better!}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|he reads word for word no editorializing}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|also dont make cc content and dont monetise or the boogeyman will get you}}

[...]

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=56:09|Right on, Neko!}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=56:31|"2007 called"}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=56:56|Phone}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=57:01|Phone's on silent.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=57:07|And I have two phones.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sean|time=57:34|@Agent Durden Tyler doing good man, youre always missed}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=57:39|One phone for routing the troll traffic to, while having less such contacts and texts on my main phone.}}

[...]

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=59:17|Yep. I've matured spiritually, interdimensionally, and metaphysically. It is no delusion or shit. It's the truth.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=1:00:24|If anyone did get the last trolling-in of my body and brain, at least, while Sonichu and I were body-swapped, that honor goes to [[Larry Vaughn|"Danny-Boy" Vaughn]].}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=1:00:48|And I'm psychically reading ahead of the context.}}

[...]

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=1:08:15|And I'll only do such things post-transition}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Alyss Rose|time=1:08:18|WHAT DID I JUST COME INTO!!!!!????}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=1:08:44|I know Magi Chan will be more than happy to see my sexy pics and self.}}

[...]

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Agent Durden Tyler|time=4:33 PM|F}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Melon|time=4:33 PM|moment of silence}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Lucas T|time=4:33 PM|Well there was the GameStop incident/questionable assault and that sparked interest again}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Melon|time=4:33 PM|also f}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4:33 PM|My mom and I, we were both there, in that ICU room at Martha Jefferson, during his final moments, yes.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=tabula rasa|time=4:34 PM|kengle was behind getting cwc to carry mase}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4:35 PM|When Mister C. left this universe to become his Sonichu form self that he has been for years now, as the "Internet Lumberjack" that he was, he left that impression of "It's time to stop this shit."}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Alyss Rose|time=4:35 PM|F}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4:35 PM|[[Robertchu|#InternetLumberiackRobertchu]]}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=AboundingVampireKiller20|time=4:35 PM|yes}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Melon|time=4:35 PM|it's time to stop}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Lucas T|time=4:35 PM|My dad died while I was out of town skiing. Sucks, wish I coulda been there}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4:36 PM|I also held his hand during his last fifteen minutes of life in this universe.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4:36 PM|Definitely.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Melon|time=4:36 PM|sad}}

[...]

{{quotebox|[''cutoff''] and energy, so I definitely back off if I feel a bad shock around them.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Lucas T|time=4:38 PM|Melon awwwww!}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle LastName|time=4:38 PM|There doesn't seem to be any kind of implied liability, but someone could probably twist that.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=AboundingVampireKiller20|time=4:38 PM|good night, sweet prince.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Lucas T|time=4:39 PM|Yes}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4:39 PM|Duly noted.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle LastName|time=4:40 PM|[[The Create Unknown|The VSauce people]] went through [[Null|Josh]], that's the only proper way to do it.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian|time=4:40 PM|Why is doing business with me risky?}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle LastName|time=4:40 PM|Scheduling conflicts?}}

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====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz-fQSrdSAA Sonic Play's Sonic Superstars LIVE!]====

On 18 [[October 2023]], Chris viewed and commented during a gaming stream of ''Sonic Superstars''.<ref>[[:File:CwcvilleGuardian - Sonic Play's Sonic Superstars LIVE! - 18 Oct2023.jpg]]</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/GottaGoFastYT/status/1714771412261482739</ref>

{{quotebox|Hey, Sonic. I can see you're doing really awesome. I've given Superstars a play yesterday; liking it so far. No regrets with this being my first return Live Comment on YouTube. You all are great.}}

====[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K969HyMZvuA Live From China!🔴Chill CWC Stream 30]====

On 21 [[October 2023]], Chris viewed and commented during a livestream on Geno's channel in which Geno played back old videos of Chris.

{{quotebox|time=(9:18)|Hey, Geno. How are you>}}

{{quotebox|time=(9:24)|?}}

{{quotebox|time=(10:14)|Yes}}

{{quotebox|time=(10:49)|I’m doing good and okay. I appreciate your work. I still need to catch up with your series.}}

{{quotebox|time=(12:11)|Everyone good and Light Powered is blessed.}}

Geno continues to play videos, despite Chris being there. Geno plays [[Calling Out Jack Thaddius - Ahuviya]], which Chris comments on in the chat by saying:

{{quotebox|time=(12:22)|LOL!!!}}

{{quotebox|time=(16:50)|I have actually given thoughts to BDSM; I am actually partially lukewarm about it these days.}}

{{quotebox|time=(17:15)|Also, who I was to talk when I never actually had sex back then.}}

{{quotebox|time=(18:59)|Why is Pennsylvania popular for pretending to be from as a ween?}}

{{quotebox|time=(19:21)|LOL!!!!!!!}}

{{quotebox|time=(20:07)|I’ll agree with that.}}

{{quotebox|time=(20:44)|It’s coming back to me.}}

{{quotebox|time=(22:12)|I was a beginner at makeup back then}}

{{quotebox|time=(22:48)|I apologize for insulting the trans back then for the stubble.}}

On [[Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"]]:

{{quotebox|time=(23:54)|Yup}}

{{quotebox|time=(25:06)|Wrist…….watches. Thorn wanted them.}}

{{quotebox|time=(25:13)|*Thorg}}

On [[Calling Out "Julaaaay" - David]]:

{{quotebox|time=(25:41)|BlueSpike.}}

{{quotebox|time=(26:09)|Can we put that damn Julay meme down already? 2009 called and wanted it back.}}

{{quotebox|time=(27:36)|“IBAWESTON” Was literally Barbara’s old license plate’s number.}}

{{quotebox|time=(27:59)|There was no acronym or initials for it at all.}}

{{quotebox|time=(28:09)|It was “I Be A Weston”; that was it.}}

{{quotebox|time=(28:50)|Would you still like a Medallion, Geno?}}

{{quotebox|time=(29:46)|Ah…. That wall behind me was torn a hole in the wall with the house fire of 2013.}}

{{quotebox|time=(30:24)|On the day after my Aunt’s funeral that year; that trip to Ohio.}}

{{quotebox|time=(30:35)|2014, that’s right.}}

In response to Geno liking ambient music:

{{quotebox|time=(32:30)|Me too; I listen to ambient binaural beats a lot.}}

On [[Gratitude for a good person in N.C.]]:

{{quotebox|time=(34:31)|I remind myself of {{w|Hyacinth Bucket}} in that video.}}

On [[Re-Calling Ahuvia]]:

{{quotebox|time=(38:06)|LOL!!! “Fetishishes”?}}

On [[Victory Rockout]]:

{{quotebox|time=(40:34)|PSA: Don’t throw your guitar like an axe while still wearing it around your neck.}}

{{quotebox|time=(41:58)|LOL!!!!!! Butt Whap! :D}}

{{quotebox|time=(43:43)|Wild Sonichu’s voice is like Luke Skywalker, for the record.}}

On [[Re-Calling_Ahuvia#Ahuviya's_Response|Ahuviya Harel's response to Re-calling Ahuvia]]

{{quotebox|time=(51:16)|It WAS confusing back then.}}

{{quotebox|time=(55:46)|No worse than Discord when he was the most basic of jokes.}}

On [[Response to ADF]]:

{{quotebox|time=(1:00:58)|Ee-Yup}}

{{quotebox|time=(1:04:47)|Yes. Opinions and feelings can change due to maturity.}}

{{quotebox|time=(1:04:54)|And Soul Searching.}}

On [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal]]:

{{quotebox|time=(1:06:10)|Oh, yeah. I remember him. Ate too much.}}

{{quotebox|time=(1:09:54)|I have very little justification in mocking anyone who does what they enjoy doing in front of the camera, regardless of the situation.}}

On [[Cheerleader]]:

{{quotebox|time=(1:13:34)|“Jacklyn Romy”…. Oí}}

====[https://web.archive.org/web/20250501181525/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puFoxn5VJME What RUINED Saberspark and DAGames]====
On 1 [[May 2025]], Chris viewed and commented in a live chat on an attack video by [[ILoveKimPossibleAlot]] on Aficionado Chris, [[Saberspark]], and DAGames.<ref>[[:File:KP_vid_live_chat_message.png]]</ref> The video received backlash on [[Twitter]], and was privated less than ten minutes after Chris posted a link to it on [[Bluesky]].<ref>[[May 2025 social media posts#What RUINED Saberspark and DAGames]]</ref>
{{quotebox|time=9:47 AM|I feel like shit like this has gone on for far too long. We even have people in power who are just as bad and worse, and it just makes me feel more than sick.}}

==List of community post comments==
The following is a sub-list of comments Chris has made on YouTube community posts.

====[https://www.youtube.com/post/UgyEldeEzEoxMFGFpPF4AaABCQ Genosamual 100k Q&A announcement]====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=[[Geno Samuel|GenoSamuel2.1]]|Hey y’all! Seems like I can get Part 46 out next weekend, so look out for that one!
In the meantime, if I don’t get disappeared, the channel will hit 100k subs, so in celebration, I wanna do a 100k Q&A video. If you have any questions, please leave them here and I will address them in video form.
Thank you very much, and have a good day!}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian''' (15 [[November 2020]])|Hey, Geno. I, Sonichu, offer a sentiment of support and kind thoughts in response to this. Congratulations, Dude.
But I do have a question, as well (feel free to get really Metaphysical about it; break your own fourth walls).
Given every single possibility between this and all of the other dimensions in this Omega timeline set we live in, including that Mama Chris Chan, herself, being the OC of OCs, could also have been a creator of all Original Creators, including yourself, if not that one major influential aspect, What do you feel is the most significant factor that attracts everyone’s attention, including yourself, to her?

In short, What do You feel and think is the attraction; what makes you fascinated about Chris Chan?}}

Geno pinned and hearted the comment, and eventually answered the question in his video.

====[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_3pplzbKMZsP5zBH_6SVJQ/community?lc=UgxaoB_jaYNfkCME0HB4AaABAg&lb=UgkxC-K7Ww1GYUIOyA33kiKfiuI6SjSrd41z Geno selling Want Woman shirt]====
{{quoteboxred|speaker=[[Geno Samuel|GenoSamuel2.1]]|Pre-order Time! T-Shirts, Key Chains, Caps, & Stickers!

As the medallions are still baking in the oven, lemme regale you with these concept images of new merch currently being manufactured :O 
I will receive proofs within the week and I'll update the listings with real photos. In the meantime, y'all may pre-order these lovely works while they're still available: 
https://www.genosamuel.com

Hope yous been keeping well these days... Thanks <3

--G.G. 
[''Posts five promotional images for his merchandise, the first one being a plain white shirt that reads "WANT WOMAN!"'']}}

{{quotebox|speaker=CwcvilleGuardian''' (3 [[February 2024]])|Can you please stop the “Want Woman” shirt?}}

==Responses to Chris's comments==

Reception towards Chris's comments on YouTube have been mixed to negative, from [[enablers]] rallying behind Chris,<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ&lc=UgzdoujDjuYP-1upCml4AaABAg.99rp0v6m7g299s8dk652ke]</ref>, to [[weens]] blurting out outdated memes<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ&lc=UgzdoujDjuYP-1upCml4AaABAg.99rp0v6m7g299rrA5NPdwk]</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ&lc=UgzdoujDjuYP-1upCml4AaABAg.99rp0v6m7g299rt8-kNVmD]</ref> and also people telling Chris to seek help,<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ&lc=UgzdoujDjuYP-1upCml4AaABAg.99rp0v6m7g299rsZyQuq0w]</ref> or [[Chris and work|"get a job"]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ&lc=UgzdoujDjuYP-1upCml4AaABAg.99rp0v6m7g299rxnWGNF7B]</ref>

==See also==
*[[YouTube]]
*[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
*[[List of Chris's edits to the CWCki]]
*[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]

==References==
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Chris and nutrition

2025-12-15T15:51:58Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Behavioral issues */

{{Needs Updating|[[November 2023 social media posts#Weight]]}}

{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Honest}}

[[File:OmNomNom.jpg|thumb|A wild Chris scarfing down his prey.]]
Food is both a [[sex|biological imperative]] and a [[art|cultural medium]] for humans. The human body is meant to run on a wide variety of foodstuffs for a balanced diet, and cultures around the world have created a multitude of dishes using available ingredients, mostly from animal and plant sources. More recently, however, food has become industrialized, which makes food cheaper and tastier, to the love of our hero, [[Chris]]. Unfortunately, this industrial Western diet doesn't always carry the best '''nutrition'''.

==Cooking abilities==
{{Dated|Events after house fire}}
Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti (an incredibly basic dish, mind you) in a YouTube video, he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

In a [[August 2017]] letter written to [[Kelly Sheridan]], Chris claimed to have taken up basic cooking skills as a way to keep his mind more active.<ref>[[Chris's letter to Kelly Sheridan‎‎]]</ref>

In addition, [[Barb]] stopped cooking for Chris after he and [[Bob]] had turned down a spaghetti meal she had offered them<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref>, a turn-down he claimed to have "deeply apologized" for, making it even less likely that Chris eats anything that requires to be cooked, let alone anything that requires time and preparation to be made.

==Fast Food==
[[File:ChrisMadeANaco.jpg|thumb|A soft shell taco topped with tortilla chips. Straight out of ''Kim Possible''.]]
{{Main|List of restaurants}}

As a result of his minimal cooking skills, and due to how even the simplest of tasks [[Chris and work|tire him out]], Chris often prefers to eat out over making food by himself. He is an infamous fast food lover, eating at either [[McDonald's]], [[Burger King]] or some other fast food restaurant at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a [[Kiwi Farms]] user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

==Consumption of food==

[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris eats at multiple fast food restaurants, visiting McDonald's 10 times in 13 days, eating at other chains as well in the same documented period.]]
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily. Occasionally, he mixes them with [[Semen|a special ingredient]].]]

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general (as well as his tendency to lie).

During the [[Father Call]], Chris told [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. He claimed he stopped taking the drug in fall 2009, but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

When Chris admits to going to McDonald's regularly for his meals (including the time in the father call) he will often fall back on another lie that he only eats the salads provided and drink the lemonade. This is ironic as McDonald's salads were actually proven to contain ''more'' calories than an average Big Mac meal, due to the sauce that came with them. Chris also seems to be under the impression that lemonade is healthy because it has (or at least tastes vaguely like) lemons despite them being just as unhealthy as any other type of soda.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos under the false believe that they would improve his health. He liked videos such as "Lose Weight Super Fast!", "Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!", "Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment", and "[[Fart Song|Produce Odorless Farts Fast!]]". There is no sort of scientific and medical evidence that proves listening to binaural beats can do these things – the only real health effect is hearing loss if listened to at a high volume, and maybe a headache.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Quinn.27s missing out|Quinn's missing out!]]</ref> This marks one of the only times that Chris has admitted that he has [[Obesity]] issues.

In 2019, Chris showed us his idea of a "salad", mostly made with unhealthy ingredients like bacon bits and croutons.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan eats a .22salad.22]]</ref>

In 2020, Chris claimed to make breakfast omelettes/scrambled eggs with ghost pepper sauce or spinach.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

In October 2023, Chris posted photos of his snack bowl, consisting of fruits, a large chunk of dark chocolate, and a liberal amount of what appears to be whipped topping. Chris touted the vitamin benefits of the fruits among the snacks, but unfortunately for him, the nutritional benefit is outweighed by the excessive amount of sugars contained in the bowl.<ref>[[October 2023 social media posts#Chocolate and fruits]]</ref>

==Jail food==
Since the [[Jail Saga]] saw Chris incarcerated for quite a while, it's safe to assume he broke his long standing policy of [[28 October 2011|not eating prison food]] and entered the regular diet alongside all the other jail inmates. Chris stated that he liked the selection of food items the jail had for sale.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)]]</ref>

In an [[October 2021]] letter, Chris discussed the quality of the meals by writing that the "Food's mostly good and well; not perfect meatballs (Banquet Dinners have better meatballs), and chicken is often dry."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

As of 3 [[May 2022]] (following his three month stay at [[Western State Hospital]]), his weight noticeably dropped since he was unable to exploit the "begging for junk food money" loophole he once had access to, and his final mugshot taken upon his release on 27 [[March 2023]] showed him having shed even more pounds. After exiting incarceration, Chris has regained all of his lost weight, especially underneath his neck.

==Hydration and water consumption==
[[File:Water and Dasani.jpeg|150px|thumb|Chris's water bottle and a Dasani bottle.]]
[[File:Anti corona device.jpg|200px|thumb|What Chris actually believes manifests his "powers" in our world.]]

Before 2020, Chris rarely drank water and focused a lot more on [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]).<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772143]</ref> This was such that an entire page of the CWCki is [[My Coke Rewards|partly dedicated to just how much Coca-Cola he drank over the span of two years]].

The earliest known case of this was Chris [[A Week With Christian Chandler|documenting in one of his high school senior year projects]] that on the way to [[Card games#Books-A-Million|Books-A-Million]] to play a children's trading card game, he would stop at a gas station to "fill his sports bottle with some refreshing soda pop"<ref>A Week With Christian Chandler#Page 2</reF>. It's very possible he did this once every week and that it was a starting point for his health issues in the intervening years.

On many of the days between 6 March 2007 and 4 September 2009, Chris drank about 1.8 liters (over 3 pints) of Coke ''every day'' (assuming that none of it was drunk by his equally [[obese]] [[Borb|parents]]), so he could gain points on My Coke Rewards. This represents a grotesque 195 grams (nearly 7 ounces) of sugar per day from Coke alone, representing almost ''800'' calories (1/3 of his daily calorie intake). To put that in perspective, Chris drank enough Coke to fill ''10 oil barrels'' in order to get the amount of points he got. [[30 Push-Ups|Needless to say]], the effects are staggering. On record, he apparently consumed a whopping ''120 cans of cola'' on 9 April 2008, 24 March 2009, and 15 August 2009!

Before his arrest in [[July 2021]], Chris drank tons of water from a Glacee water bottle with an [[Magic stones|amethyst crystal]] inside. He believes that there are many health problems that drinking water in this fashion alone can cure, such as food poisoning. While this is not actually true, it's at least far healthier than drinking tons of soft drinks. Ever since the discovery of himself being Goddess CPU Blue Heart, he had used this bottle constantly as a way to charge up his "powers", in order to help further the merge into its future stages. The reason he went with the amethyst crystal is most likely the same reason that he uses his [[Amnyfest Ring]] in the comics as his main source of power. So, therefore, Chris used this bottle as a way to inadvertently makes his powers stronger.

As of 2023, Chris has developed an interest in the popular energy drink G Fuel, likely because the brand is known to constantly release flavors in partnership with various gaming/media franchises, an unsurprising example being that [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart (July)|he was seen looking at]] [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]-themed G Fuel cans [[Post-jail sightings|during a post-jail release shopping trip]]. Given the canned drink has an average of 300 mg of caffeine (equivalent to about 3 cups of coffee), it's likely Chris may soon slip back into erratic behavior patterns.

==Results of Chris's Diet==
{{Main|Chris and health}}

===Obesity===
{{Main|Obesity}}
[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him. It didn't work.]]

Chris has been overweight for all or nearly all of his adult life, and obese for a large portion of it.

===Dental hygiene===

Chris's [[Fangs|teeth]] have obviously suffered greatly during the decades of constant sugary abuse. Several videos which he exposes his teeth have revealed that his molars are extremely rotten and full of cavities while his frontal teeth are yellowish at best and an olive colour at worst. This combined with his infamous lack of hygienic prowess means that it's flat out a miracle that all his teeth haven't fallen out at this point.

===Behavioral issues===

Caffeine is a well known [[Anger|stimulant]] and can impair one's ability to [[Biological Clock|sleep]]. Chris's drinks all have plenty of caffeine in them, from coffee to [[Coca-Cola]]. Chris is undoubtedly addicted to both, and cups of coffee were spotted throughout the hallway in [[14 Branchland Court]] just before the coffee ''maker'' [[2014 house fire|burned the entire house down]].

===Fecal incontinence===
{{Main|DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS}}

It is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his fecal incontinence (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence.<ref>{{w|Fecal incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia.}}</ref> Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how long. Irritable bowel syndrome may be another reason for Chris's problems with controlling his bowels. The cause of IBS is not known, but two major triggers are [[stress]] and poor diets, with wheat, dairy, and carbonated drinks being known IBS triggers.<ref>Mayo Clinic: [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360016 Irritable bowel syndrome]</ref> Chris has given testament to fast-food not agreeing with him.<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Whopperito]]</ref> However, being raised on a poor diet, it's unlikely he'll stop eating junk anytime soon.

{{clear}}

==Denial of poor diet==

Chris often denies his diet is doing more harm to him than good. In the [[Father Call]], Chris constantly lies about his poor eating habits to an unimpressed Matthew Devoria. At one point, [[Autism|he went off on a tangent]] about how he stuffed vegetables and fruits down his throat; this was after Matt metaphorically compared [[Kacey|his daughter]]'s book reading to how much candy Chris probably consumes.

==References==
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{{Chris and}}
{{Health}}

Chris and nutrition

2025-12-15T15:44:17Z

Dodo Conservative: Chris isn’t diabetic

{{Needs Updating|[[November 2023 social media posts#Weight]]}}

{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Honest}}

[[File:OmNomNom.jpg|thumb|A wild Chris scarfing down his prey.]]
Food is both a [[sex|biological imperative]] and a [[art|cultural medium]] for humans. The human body is meant to run on a wide variety of foodstuffs for a balanced diet, and cultures around the world have created a multitude of dishes using available ingredients, mostly from animal and plant sources. More recently, however, food has become industrialized, which makes food cheaper and tastier, to the love of our hero, [[Chris]]. Unfortunately, this industrial Western diet doesn't always carry the best '''nutrition'''.

==Cooking abilities==
{{Dated|Events after house fire}}
Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti (an incredibly basic dish, mind you) in a YouTube video, he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

In a [[August 2017]] letter written to [[Kelly Sheridan]], Chris claimed to have taken up basic cooking skills as a way to keep his mind more active.<ref>[[Chris's letter to Kelly Sheridan‎‎]]</ref>

In addition, [[Barb]] stopped cooking for Chris after he and [[Bob]] had turned down a spaghetti meal she had offered them<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref>, a turn-down he claimed to have "deeply apologized" for, making it even less likely that Chris eats anything that requires to be cooked, let alone anything that requires time and preparation to be made.

==Fast Food==
[[File:ChrisMadeANaco.jpg|thumb|A soft shell taco topped with tortilla chips. Straight out of ''Kim Possible''.]]
{{Main|List of restaurants}}

As a result of his minimal cooking skills, and due to how even the simplest of tasks [[Chris and work|tire him out]], Chris often prefers to eat out over making food by himself. He is an infamous fast food lover, eating at either [[McDonald's]], [[Burger King]] or some other fast food restaurant at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a [[Kiwi Farms]] user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

==Consumption of food==

[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris eats at multiple fast food restaurants, visiting McDonald's 10 times in 13 days, eating at other chains as well in the same documented period.]]
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily. Occasionally, he mixes them with [[Semen|a special ingredient]].]]

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general (as well as his tendency to lie).

During the [[Father Call]], Chris told [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. He claimed he stopped taking the drug in fall 2009, but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

When Chris admits to going to McDonald's regularly for his meals (including the time in the father call) he will often fall back on another lie that he only eats the salads provided and drink the lemonade. This is ironic as McDonald's salads were actually proven to contain ''more'' calories than an average Big Mac meal, due to the sauce that came with them. Chris also seems to be under the impression that lemonade is healthy because it has (or at least tastes vaguely like) lemons despite them being just as unhealthy as any other type of soda.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos under the false believe that they would improve his health. He liked videos such as "Lose Weight Super Fast!", "Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!", "Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment", and "[[Fart Song|Produce Odorless Farts Fast!]]". There is no sort of scientific and medical evidence that proves listening to binaural beats can do these things – the only real health effect is hearing loss if listened to at a high volume, and maybe a headache.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Quinn.27s missing out|Quinn's missing out!]]</ref> This marks one of the only times that Chris has admitted that he has [[Obesity]] issues.

In 2019, Chris showed us his idea of a "salad", mostly made with unhealthy ingredients like bacon bits and croutons.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan eats a .22salad.22]]</ref>

In 2020, Chris claimed to make breakfast omelettes/scrambled eggs with ghost pepper sauce or spinach.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

In October 2023, Chris posted photos of his snack bowl, consisting of fruits, a large chunk of dark chocolate, and a liberal amount of what appears to be whipped topping. Chris touted the vitamin benefits of the fruits among the snacks, but unfortunately for him, the nutritional benefit is outweighed by the excessive amount of sugars contained in the bowl.<ref>[[October 2023 social media posts#Chocolate and fruits]]</ref>

==Jail food==
Since the [[Jail Saga]] saw Chris incarcerated for quite a while, it's safe to assume he broke his long standing policy of [[28 October 2011|not eating prison food]] and entered the regular diet alongside all the other jail inmates. Chris stated that he liked the selection of food items the jail had for sale.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)]]</ref>

In an [[October 2021]] letter, Chris discussed the quality of the meals by writing that the "Food's mostly good and well; not perfect meatballs (Banquet Dinners have better meatballs), and chicken is often dry."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

As of 3 [[May 2022]] (following his three month stay at [[Western State Hospital]]), his weight noticeably dropped since he was unable to exploit the "begging for junk food money" loophole he once had access to, and his final mugshot taken upon his release on 27 [[March 2023]] showed him having shed even more pounds. After exiting incarceration, Chris has regained all of his lost weight, especially underneath his neck.

==Hydration and water consumption==
[[File:Water and Dasani.jpeg|150px|thumb|Chris's water bottle and a Dasani bottle.]]
[[File:Anti corona device.jpg|200px|thumb|What Chris actually believes manifests his "powers" in our world.]]

Before 2020, Chris rarely drank water and focused a lot more on [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]).<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772143]</ref> This was such that an entire page of the CWCki is [[My Coke Rewards|partly dedicated to just how much Coca-Cola he drank over the span of two years]].

The earliest known case of this was Chris [[A Week With Christian Chandler|documenting in one of his high school senior year projects]] that on the way to [[Card games#Books-A-Million|Books-A-Million]] to play a children's trading card game, he would stop at a gas station to "fill his sports bottle with some refreshing soda pop"<ref>A Week With Christian Chandler#Page 2</reF>. It's very possible he did this once every week and that it was a starting point for his health issues in the intervening years.

On many of the days between 6 March 2007 and 4 September 2009, Chris drank about 1.8 liters (over 3 pints) of Coke ''every day'' (assuming that none of it was drunk by his equally [[obese]] [[Borb|parents]]), so he could gain points on My Coke Rewards. This represents a grotesque 195 grams (nearly 7 ounces) of sugar per day from Coke alone, representing almost ''800'' calories (1/3 of his daily calorie intake). To put that in perspective, Chris drank enough Coke to fill ''10 oil barrels'' in order to get the amount of points he got. [[30 Push-Ups|Needless to say]], the effects are staggering. On record, he apparently consumed a whopping ''120 cans of cola'' on 9 April 2008, 24 March 2009, and 15 August 2009!

Before his arrest in [[July 2021]], Chris drank tons of water from a Glacee water bottle with an [[Magic stones|amethyst crystal]] inside. He believes that there are many health problems that drinking water in this fashion alone can cure, such as food poisoning. While this is not actually true, it's at least far healthier than drinking tons of soft drinks. Ever since the discovery of himself being Goddess CPU Blue Heart, he had used this bottle constantly as a way to charge up his "powers", in order to help further the merge into its future stages. The reason he went with the amethyst crystal is most likely the same reason that he uses his [[Amnyfest Ring]] in the comics as his main source of power. So, therefore, Chris used this bottle as a way to inadvertently makes his powers stronger.

As of 2023, Chris has developed an interest in the popular energy drink G Fuel, likely because the brand is known to constantly release flavors in partnership with various gaming/media franchises, an unsurprising example being that [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart (July)|he was seen looking at]] [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]-themed G Fuel cans [[Post-jail sightings|during a post-jail release shopping trip]]. Given the canned drink has an average of 300 mg of caffeine (equivalent to about 3 cups of coffee), it's likely Chris may soon slip back into erratic behavior patterns.

==Results of Chris's Diet==
{{Main|Chris and health}}

===Obesity===
{{Main|Obesity}}
[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him. It didn't work.]]

Chris has been overweight for all or nearly all of his adult life, and obese for a large portion of it.

===Dental hygiene===

Chris's [[Fangs|teeth]] have obviously suffered greatly during the decades of constant sugary abuse. Several videos which he exposes his teeth have revealed that his molars are extremely rotten and full of cavities while his frontal teeth are yellowish at best and an olive colour at worst. This combined with his infamous lack of hygienic prowess means that it's flat out a miracle that all his teeth haven't fallen out at this point.

===Behavioral issues===

Caffeine is a well known [[Anger|stimulant]] and can impair ones ability to [[Biological Clock|sleep]]. Chris's drinks all have plenty of caffeine in them, from coffee to [[Coca-Cola]]. Chris is undoubtedly addicted to both, and cups of coffee were spotted throughout the hallway in [[14 Branchland Court]] just before the coffee ''maker'' [[2014 house fire|burned the entire house down]].

===Fecal incontinence===
{{Main|DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS}}

It is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his fecal incontinence (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence.<ref>{{w|Fecal incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia.}}</ref> Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how long. Irritable bowel syndrome may be another reason for Chris's problems with controlling his bowels. The cause of IBS is not known, but two major triggers are [[stress]] and poor diets, with wheat, dairy, and carbonated drinks being known IBS triggers.<ref>Mayo Clinic: [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360016 Irritable bowel syndrome]</ref> Chris has given testament to fast-food not agreeing with him.<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Whopperito]]</ref> However, being raised on a poor diet, it's unlikely he'll stop eating junk anytime soon.

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==Denial of poor diet==

Chris often denies his diet is doing more harm to him than good. In the [[Father Call]], Chris constantly lies about his poor eating habits to an unimpressed Matthew Devoria. At one point, [[Autism|he went off on a tangent]] about how he stuffed vegetables and fruits down his throat; this was after Matt metaphorically compared [[Kacey|his daughter]]'s book reading to how much candy Chris probably consumes.

==References==
<references/>
{{Chris and}}
{{Health}}

File:Rubi 110309.jpg

2025-12-15T15:27:49Z

Dodo Conservative: Soap opera and telenovela are synonyms

Rubi, a Mexican telenovela Chris picked up on DVD through My Coke Rewards.

Talk:Transformers

2025-12-14T16:58:54Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Does anyone here even know anything about this series? */

Some discussion about how the new comics ([[Sonichu 9]]) is all Transformers shit. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:51, 20 October 2009 (CEST)

== Megatron gun ==

[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Megatron-g1toy.jpg] This is the complete toy. It's likely that Chris as lost afew of the parts, left only with the gun itself.--[[User:CrassCrab|The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 17:40, 21 November 2009 (CET)

== Does anyone here even know anything about this series? ==

I know next to nothing about the Transformers. I know about Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, and Megatron that's about it. I also vaguely know about Alpha Trion because of Chris. I would do more if I knew more about the series. But I am not really a fan of Transformers. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 01:25, 14 December 2025 (EST)

I know literally nothing. I watched it as a kid but didn’t really care. [[User:Dodo Conservative|Dodo Conservative]] ([[User talk:Dodo Conservative|talk]]) 11:58, 14 December 2025 (EST)

Death threats

2025-12-14T16:54:53Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Other */

{{Honest}}

{{quote|You Haters MAY Laugh At Yourselves Now, but you all will be laughing out the other side of your face when Fate, Destiny and Karma smacks you Hard and Rough. Even Possible, I’ll have a tangible lightning bolt in my hand, and we’ll see if you survive being Paralyzed or worse.|Chris's reaction to the pizza prank trolls<ref name=pizza>[[August 2019 social media posts#Chris caused a fender-bender and kicked a cop car; discovers he's blacklisted from Papa Johns]]</ref>.}}

[[Image:Claw of fail 2.jpg|thumb|An evil man, [[Claw of Fail|with evil hands]], who is [[Slow-in-the-minds|plotting evil deeds]].]]

Despite his [[Messiah complex|belief]] that he is a compassionate, [[GodJesus]]-fearing person (or a loving goddess), Chris often goes on about how much he hates someone or wants someone to suffer. In these rants, Chris occasionally crosses the line and lets slip the fact that he honestly wants someone to die as horribly as possible. While it's clear that Chris is no legitimate threat to anyone's life, the murderous revenge fantasies he has are frequently disturbing in their nature, especially for the often juvenile motivation for such threats. These '''death threats''' have become increasingly common since [[2009]].

Due to [[Affair with Mother|recent events]], it is unlikely that Chris will be publishing any more death threats in the foreseeable future.

==Means of delivery==
On a few occasions, Chris has dedicated special time and energy to immortalize his desire to kill in his [[comic]]. In these works, the person Chris wishes to destroy is often depicted as a purely evil villain, hellbent on the destruction of our innocent man-child hero. While these are much more noticeable than his other threats, they are also more infrequent, as Chris is lazy and often unwilling to dedicate the time and energy to hurting his enemies in fiction. This list does not include real people who have been fictionalized and then assaulted by Chris in the comics, but rather, actual people who Chris has actually threatened.

The majority of Chris's cries for blood were delivered via [[YouTube]] videos. Compared to murdering somebody in a comic, shouting into a [[camera]] is very easy, and it allows Chris much more opportunity to scream and shout like the child he is. Lately, however, his preferred method of delivery seems to be [[Facebook]], and he has even gone a step beyond what he usually does by trying to post pictures and the personal information of his targets, almost as if he expects the trolls to suddenly take his side and go after them instead of him. ''('''Spoiler:''' They won't.)''

==Targets==
Either Chris's store of [[rage]] has steadily accumulated over years of trolling, or he's simply grown desensitized to the implications of calling for another person's death. While it was once a very rare occurrence for Chris to threaten or call for the death of his enemies, towards the end of [[2009]] and early [[2010]] Chris began screaming for murderous vengeance and penning elaborate, violent fantasies in the pages of his comic on a frighteningly regular basis.

===[[Adam Stackhouse]]===
One of Chris's earliest and broadest death threats targeted Adam Stackhouse, the winner of [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]] in [[2007]]. Chris's primary complaint was that Adam's video featured his sister Anna (Anna Stackhouse, not to be confused with [[Anna McLerran]]) in a supporting role, along with some beatboxing (neither of which was actually against the rules). He also had similar complaints about the second and third-placed videos, and so wrote a [[PSN Blogs|PSN Blog]] entry which included the following:

{{Quote|I curse those seven people (between the cast of the three illegal videos) to '''DIE and BURN!'''|Chris's idea of a calm response to disappointment.}}

By itself, this could be written off as a pathetic outburst from a [[virgin with rage]], but Chris wasn't content to leave it at that; he elevated it to an actual death threat by creating [[CWC is Angry|a video]], the first two minutes of which featured nothing but Chris repeatedly shooting a picture of the Stackhouses. Whether or not the threats towards Adam (and the second and third-place contestants) were taken seriously, many felt that he was crossing the line by bringing Anna (who is considerably younger than Adam or Chris) into the matter, which is probably why he eventually removed the video from [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/YouTube YouTube].

In a rare display of conscience, Chris actually [[Chris Chan Update 24 September 2008|retracted and apologized]] for this death threat...about thirteen months after he first issued it. The offending blog entry was deleted by a PSN admin after Chris responded to an earlier request to remove it himself by telling the admin in question to "SHUT UP AND GO READ THE OFFICIAL RULES!!!!" (earning himself a temporary ban from PSN in the process).

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
On [[Christmas]] Day [[2009]], Chris uploaded a video aptly titled "[[Kill De Jack]]", making public his great desire for Jack to die. So much for goodwill towards men. Oddly, he never actually physically demanded that Jack be murdered in the course of the video, spending most of his time bitching about the [[homos]]exual ads that Jack had placed on the [[CWCipedia]].

{{Quote|And to go back to the current topic, '''Kill de Jack Thaddeus'''.|Chris, [[Download For Play Only|changing topics]].}}

Chris verbally stated his intent to murder Jack on 26 [[December 2009]]. Then on the 27th Chris uploaded another [[To Clyde and Jack.MOV|video]], where he switched it up by demanding that Jack save Chris the trouble, and kill ''himself''. These demands that Jack and [[Clyde]] murder themselves soon became the norm, showing up in videos, [[CWC Blog#28 December 2009|blog entries]], and scattered about on the [[CWCipedia]]. Needless to say, Jack continued to refuse to kill himself.

Unable to slay his enemy in the real world, Chris returned to his old revenge proxy--[[Sonichu (comic)|the ''Sonichu'' comics]]. In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris trapped Jack and Clyde on top of the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] building and then assaulted it with powerful soundwaves. This compromised the building's structural integrity, and effectively doomed everyone inside it to death and dismemberment. Jack and Clyde, unable to escape the crumbling tower, opted to throw themselves down the elevator shaft to escape being crushed under the rubble. These pages prove once and for all that Chris is more than willing to slaughter hundreds just to get back at someone who was mean to him on the Internet.

===[[Jason Kendrick Howell]]===
[[Image:Bigboss.JPG|thumb|Jason bleeding to death on the cold ground.]]

The creator of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page that brought Chris into the limelight has been the target of Chris's impotent cries for blood several times. The most notable instance of this is in [[Sonichu 8#Episode 17: "Rage Against the Garbage"|''Sonichu'' #8]], where Chris depicted him being brutally slashed, electrocuted, and ''faceraped'' by [[Rosechu]]. It even gets stated outright that the assault was fatal, and that the only reason Jason was alive was due to "dark powers." Whether these powers are Jason's own psychic ability or some malevolent force that merely wishes to see Jason suffer longer, is left ambiguous.

Chris also tried to play the [[True and Loyal Fanbase#Personal army|personal army]] game against him with [[Attention All Sonichu Fans (NOT HATERS)|a video]]. While most of the message fell in line with the general "please troll this person instead of me" lines, one passage, in particular, stands out from the rest.

{{Quote|Shower him with as much hate as possible until that Encyclopedia Dramatica page is taken down, '''along with him'''.|Chris subtly expressing his desire for Jason to stop existing.}}

Also notable is the time Chris attempted to involve [[GodJesus]] in his murder plot. [[Chris and religion|They have yet to respond]].

{{quote|I PRAY TO GOD AND JESUS TO KILL JASON KENDRICK HOWELL|Chris-chan, [[Sonichu Girls]] forum}}

And who can forget the phone call Jason received after [[Sonichu.net]] was hacked by someone Chris thought was him?

{{quote|[[Jason Kendrick Howell message|I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD]]!|Chris}}

Although Jason did create the original ED page, he has never had a particularly active role in tormenting Chris, choosing (like most of us) to simply enjoy the show. As such, while Chris has never really "forgiven" him, threats against Jason have essentially ceased as Chris shifts his focus to more immediate threats.

===Clyde Cash===

{{Quote|'''[[Song of Christian#Part 2|EEEEEEENNNNNNNNGH!]] I'LL STRANGLE THAT CLYDE CASH! I WILL...POUND HIS LIGHTS OUT! IF I EVER MEET THAT BASTARD...IN PERSON.'''|Chris, [[CWC Update!!!!! 27 March 2009|while smiling evilly]].}}

The undisputed leader and hero of all of Chris's [[trolls]], Clyde Cash has been on the receiving end of his fair share of death threats. The sheer hatred Chris holds for Clyde is impressive in its own right. With the other trolls, Chris has at least tried to appear subtle about his dark intentions or kept his demands for their deaths relatively infrequent. Where Clyde is concerned, Chris is extremely upfront and clear about his desire to murder Cash. Even Clyde faking his own suicide was not enough to escape Chris's wrath.

{{Quote|CLYDE DO YOU HEAR ME?! YOU ARE DEAAAD! YOU ARE DEAD! '''YOU ARE DEAD!'''|Chris, [[Take that Page DOWN NOW!|somewhat angry]].}}

Thereafter, Chris's cries for Clyde's blood took on much more serious undertones. While his earlier threats of strangulation and being forced to eat his own underwear were done with no apparent attempt to follow through on his dark words, more recent threats have come with demands that Clyde should come and face Chris in person, so that Chris might physically extract his revenge. It could be inferred by this that Chris has indeed planned out [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|exactly what his course of action would be if Clyde did suddenly show up at his front door.]]

{{Quote|You come to me. I will fight you! I will CRUSH YOU!|Chris, [[Challenge for Clyde|asking for a fight]].}}

Chris posted [[Don't Mess With Me| another video]] in which he roleplayed encountering Clyde Cash in real life. Upon being insulted by 'Clyde', Chris proceeded to pretend to beat up, choke, and finally slit the throat of the imaginary Clyde with [[pocket knife|a real knife]], intended as an ominous warning to other trolls.

Chris's threats against Clyde culminated in a video where he, dressed as [[You Think You're a Man|Divine]], [[DivineTrial|ordered his execution]], with a Shadow the Hedgehog doll standing in for the "Cashey-type person".

Finally, there's the matter of Clyde's family. It's not enough for Chris to merely murder Clyde. Chris has shown that he feels the entire Cash family line is just as deserving of his rage as Clyde, and has stated this outright. The fact that this is essentially a small-scale act of ''genocide'' has apparently not occurred to him.

{{Quote|THIS IS FOR CLYDE CASH TO EVERY LAST ONE OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS INCLUDING HIS COUSIN [[Vivian Gee|VIVIAN]]!|Chris, immediately before [[Sign Destruction Video|sinking [[Fangs|his teeth]] into a doll's head]].}}

===[[Liquid Chris]]===
[[Ian Brandon Anderson]] made a number of videos raging against [[Liquid Chris|the real Chris]], but he didn't cross over into death threat territory until after Liquid declared himself the victor of the [[SingStar Challenge]].

{{Quote|'''DIIIIIIIIIEEEEE YOU!!'''|Ian, [[NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!|eloquently expressing his disapproval]].}}

[[Image:BustACap.jpg|thumb|Ian's solution to boyfriends.]]

Ian's murderous tendencies showed up again in [[Rescuing Kacey From Christian W Chandler]]. In the video, Ian manages to twist a game made for children of all ages into a tool to spread his hatred, as he breaks into Liquid's home and shoots him. Due to the limitations of the game, this is accomplished with a paint gun, but what happens next makes his true intent all too clear.

In a stunning display of unoriginality, Ian reused exactly the same plotline for [[Sonichu Special 4]]. In this comic, Ian depicts Liquid as a knife-wielding villain who kidnaps [[Kacey]]. Upon arriving to "rescue" her, Ian produces a handgun ([[Megatron pistol|possibly Decepticon leader Megatron in disguise]]), shoots Liquid in both his shins and leaves him to bleed to death. When [[Kacey]] [[Kacey and Liquid Call|expressed horror]] at the fact that he wanted to kill her boyfriend, Ian missed the point about why she was so upset. He told her that he could re-draw the comic and that such shots were meant to keep Liquid from chasing them, completely avoiding the issue that want to shoot someone or permanently cripple them is off-putting. Ian also tried to justify this with the fact that Comic-Liquid was coming at him with a knife, and didn't seem to comprehend the real source of Kacey's shock: she wasn't angry at [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Comic-Chris]] for defending himself (albeit in a cowardly way) so much as she was angry at Real-Chris for constructing a fantasy in which he could justify maiming and permanently crippling her boyfriend, and be completely in the right about it.

===Vivian Gee===
Afraid that Vivian would not understand the "fury of [his] wrath", Chris [[Sign Destruction Video|opted to use a visual aid]]. He accomplished this with a [[Clown Doll]] and a broken piece of wood.

{{Quote|NOW WATCH WHAT I DO WITH THIS AS I WILL DO TO VIVIAN GEE IF SHE DOES NOT S- TAKE DOWN EVERY LAST ONE OF [[Audiobooks|HER VIDEOS]] AND CLOSES HER YOUTUBE ACCOUNT!|Chris, expressing his desire to stab an innocent woman to death.}}

While there is an obvious difference between attacking a person and a doll, the sight of a grown man taking such obvious joy in the idea of violently killing a woman is disturbing nonetheless. The video also includes a threat against every single member of Vivian's family (including her cousin, [[Clyde Cash]]), though it's not clear if he actually wishes to kill them, or just beat them up and bite off their hats.

[[Image:YouDieTodayBitch.PNG|thumb|A friendly letter from Chris.]]

Vivian revealed in a now-deleted YouTube video that Chris also took a more direct approach to threaten her death. On 1 [[September 2009]] he actually sent her an e-mail directly demanding that she get a heart attack and pass away immediately. Fortunately, Chris [[CWC Update 7 July 2009|does not have the Death Note]], and Vivian survived.

{{Quote|D, Vivian G, D!|Chris, [[Chris dispels videogame rumors|13 September 2009]]}}

Chris later apologized for the threatening message. While the apology was more like begging for [[Financhu_Crisis|money]] than a genuine show of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]], it's possible that he realized that personally sending people death threats could actually get you in serious trouble and was making an attempt at damage control.

===Alec Benson Leary===
While Chris has no problem calling Sonichu a [[parody]] in a misguided effort to [[Chris and copyright|avoid copyright infringement]] and create a moneymaking franchise, when someone ''actually'' parodies Sonichu or any of his other creations, [[Chris and hypocrisy|he goes right off the deep end]]. Alec Benson Leary is the gentle and kind creator of [[Asperchu]], which is effectively a parody of Sonichu himself as well as Chris's hatred of everything Asperger's and "seemingly" homosexual. For a few weeks after the comic's debut, Chris ignored Asperchu, regarding it as nothing more than a simple parody. Soon enough, however, many of his fans began abandoning Sonichu for Asperchu, and announcing their intentions in his [[Mailbag]].

On January 9, 2010, the first [[Captain's Log]] of that year, Chris [[Down with asperchu|called out Alec Benson Leary]] after advertisements for the Asperchu wiki (the [[Asperpedia]]) started showing up on the CWCipedia (replacing the homoerotic ads that had been an earlier source of turmoil). Not amused with the new ads or his Sonichu's appearance in the comics, Chris started raging out.

{{Quote|DIE, you son of a bitch, Alec, die!|Chris, being Chris as usual.}}

Alec represents the first time Chris has ever issued a public death threat to someone who had shown him respect. While most of the other individuals Chris has threatened have been antagonistic towards him, all of Alec's public communications up to that point had been a combination of respect and admiration. The only reason Chris had to hate Alec was the fact that his character is [[obesity|overweight]] and his website runs on the same MediaWiki software. A few days later, Chris claimed that he knew where Alec lived in the description to one of his [[12 January 2010|videos]]. Fortunately for Alec, it was just another lie.

While delivering an in-depth analysis of [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|Asperchu]], Chris threatened to have the ghost of his dog [[Patti Chandler|Patti]] maul Alec to death in his sleep in hell. It is unclear if he realizes he implied Patti Chandler is in hell. Alec has responded to this most recent threat by using his ad space on the [[CWCipedia]] to ask people to donate to victims of the {{w|2010 Haiti earthquake|earthquake in Haiti}}. Clearly, Alec is just as horrible a man as Chris claims him to be. Chris finally took his hatred of Alec to its conclusion in late February, slaughtering him in ''Sonichu'' #10 alongside Sean, Evan, and Mao.

===Evan, Mao and Sean===
[[Image:SchuComic10P91.jpg|thumb|"BLOOD AND GORE!"]]

Chris included [[Evan]] and [[Mao]], two of Leary's partners in the creation of [[Asperpedia]], in another threat against Alec's life. Evan was most likely singled out because of his campaign to have [[Simonchu|his character]] removed from Chris's comic. Mao, on the other hand, has done nothing to Chris other than be a good friend to Alec. On 1 [[February 2010]] a reversing twist of the situation appeared over the use of the ad space on [[CWCipedia]]. Mao was set on the receiving end of a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] and then was asked to [[Address to Mao, the S.O.B.|"Take down the ads! Or prematurely ROT!"]] while, on the other side, Evan and Alec [[Apologies to Alec and Evan|received apologies]] for the death threats with a [[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize|hint of reciprocity]] for the management of the ads on Chris's wiki. This is all taken back when Chris tells them along with Alec and Sean to [[9 February 2010|"rot... in... HELL!!!"]]

{{quote|My amends have been made.|Chris, failing at respect and basic [[Chris and English|English]] after an unjust trial resulting in torture and execution.}}

Despite originally "having less offense" with Sean, Chris demonstrated considerable rage later on, threatening [[15 January 2010|to beat him]] and curse him. However, he refrained from crossing into death threat territory until [[Sonichu 10]] - wherein he drew the dazed and confused artist attempting to defend himself in court, despite [[Chris and the law|totally unsubstantial "mental evidence" extracted from his mind being used against him.]] Then, approximately one page after finishing his [[Chris and remorse|apology]], he summarily [[Chris and death|executes all four of the poor bastards.]] While doing so, he has each of the extremely biased "victims" take part, including a toddler, and Chris himself. (Of note is that Chris literally [[Rage|depicts himself tearing out Mao's heart.]])

===[[Cogsdev]]===
A vague death threat was given when Chris discovered the [[CWCki]] on 11 [[March 2010]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Featured_Quote&curid=40&diff=4006&oldid=4005 where Chris claimed] "there will be trouble upon that Person directly from Me" unless every page about his sweethearts was removed by 12 March 2010. He later [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Featured_Quote&diff=next&oldid=4006 extended the deadline] to remove all traces of his sweethearts to 31 March 2010. This is due to Chris [[Wallflower#Anonymity|once again]] believing he was responsible for something becoming inaccessible on the Internet. His threat to [[Cogsdev|her]] was clarified in this extension, in which he said "The deadline is March 31, 2010, 11:59 PM, [[Chris and English|Easter]] Standard Time. Do it, or there WILL be trouble. I am [[Pocket knife|Armed]] after all." This threat was realized when Chris created an [[User:GodofThunderGodofWar|account]] on the CWCki, and proceeded to [[List of Chris's edits to the CWCki|fail at vandalism]].

Chris's threats were directed at the webmaster of the CWCki, but he never realized both the CWCki and the CWCipedia had the same webmaster.

===[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]]===
On 2 [[March 2010]], after Surfshack Tito hacked into Chris's PSN account, he weakly threatened that (Tito) would "[[Patti|get yours in your dreams- your- in your nightmares]]", while also firing a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|Curse Shot]]. Twelve days later, in his video "[[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!]]", he threatens Tito with his [[pocket knife]] and a [[Homos|panty shot in a kilt]]. Chris believed that Tito was the main reason [[The Wallflower]] stopped talking to him; the actual cause for their separation was partly due to concerned trolls and partly due to Chris's refusal to be "[[friend zone|friend-zoned]]". In either case, Chris's threat did not work; instead, he offended [[Cogsdev|countless]] [[User:Great Briton|citizens]] of Scotland and the United Kingdom in the same way he offended [[Cherokian Clan|Native Americans]] in his [[War Paint Video]].

On 17 [[March 2010]], Chris made his most threatening video yet: in it, he accused Surfshack Tito of being the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], a womanizer, and a rapist; called him a nigger; and promised to cut him up and squeeze his fat into his skull until it bursts open. This blatant display of racism is generally considered to be the event that prompted Jack Thaddeus to pull all of his ads from the [[CWCipedia]]. The CWCipedia was then taken over by Mao, allowing the Asperpedia Four to totally wreck Chris's shit.

===[[Lars McNulty]]===
On 25 September 2010, Chris unleashed his anger against Lars, Jackie's ex-[[JERKS|boyfriend]] by smashing a model boat made of [[LEGO]] symbolizing the Titanic with a figurine named "Lars" aboard. Two days later, Chris addressed to Lars a [[New Address|second video]] in which he claimed that he would [[CWC Fighter|"interfere"]] if Lars didn't [[Chris and hypocrisy|grow up]] and leave Jackie alone. He ended the video by throwing another toy boat to the ceiling.

===[[Michael Snyder]]===

On 13 February 2011, Chris released the [[Autism Tutorial]] levels in ''LBP2''. In part three of the series, a rant about Mary Lee Walsh segues into a death threat directed towards Michael Snyder, in which Chris expresses his wish that [[The GAMe PLACe]] would catch fire and burn down, killing Michael in the process.

The infamous [http://imgur.com/a/1HYJJ Imgur leak] would also reveal multiple wishes made by Chris that Michael should die, including one where he wished Snyder was murdered by gunshot.

===Mimms' Girlfriend===
{{quote|I still want to make Mimms' life the emotional hell he has turned my life into. Somebody, please, kill his girlfriend.|A leaked [[Twitter]] post from 12 [[May 2012]].}}

An archive of his hidden Facebook posts on Imgur revealed an enraged Chris demanding that somebody kill Mimms' girlfriend, claiming that he wanted to take away the "[[Women's rights|possession]]" that made Mimms feel happy the most.

===[[Megan Schroeder]]===
A [http://i.imgur.com/mBFcon9.png leaked Facebook post] revealed that Chris thought Megan was "Queen of the trolls", and that he wanted to "exact his fullest revenge" upon her, right before saying that she should be [[Sonichu_10#Trial_of_the_Asperpedia_Four|jailed and beaten]]. He then follows up this very mean-spirited post by calling ''her'' "vile" and "wicked".

===[[CWCki Forums]]===

On 28 April 2012, Chris made the declaration that he found the CWCki Forums, that he knows where each member lives, and that he'll come after each of them.

===[[Mal-Wart|Walmart]] [[CWC-isms|"Lady Manajerk"]]===

After getting his ass [[Mal-Wart#Banished_from_the_region|(rightfully) tossed from Wal-Mart]] by the [[manajerks|manajerk]], Chris threw a tantrum on Facebook, saying that he'll have revenge and that she would be "FIRED FROM LIFE!"

===Every Single Employee of Sega===
{{Main|Sonic Boom Protests}}

Even the creators of Chris's childhood hero are not safe from death threats. You might think this was because of one (or more) of their horribly underwhelming Sonic games of recent years, but no- Chris made this threat because the 2014 game ''Sonic Boom'' (and the accompanying TV series) changed the color of Sonic's arms from tan to blue.

{{Quote|You Either Recall EVERYTHING of the new Sonic Boom, RIGHT NOW, or I will Seriously RIP HIS ARMS OFF and Seriously '''Watch You All At SEGA DIE''' from this most Heinous Of Crimes EVER!!!|Chris, in a typical demonstration of where his priorities are.}}

Oh, and in case you're wondering whose arms Chris was threatening to possibly rip off, the [[Facebook]] post which contained this death threat was accompanied by a shot of an angry Chris holding a soft toy Sonic based on the ''Sonic Boom'' design. Needless to say, many of his Facebook friends, including [[William Elliott Waterman]], immediately called him out for this absurd overreaction, to no avail. The following month, Chris escalated matters by posting the following to the "[[Keep Sonic Original]]" Facebook group:

{{Quote|WE NEED TO KILL SEGA INTO RECALLING EVERYTHING NOW!!! EVEN IF WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE PUT KNIVES AND BOMBS TO THEIR TROATS!!!|What happens when Chris doesn't get his way.}}

Not surprisingly, Chris was ejected from the group almost immediately. Undeterred, he set up [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!|his own group]], where he began making cryptic remarks about putting his "fingernails to Sega's throat." When others questioned him on what exactly he was talking about, he confirmed that yes, this was truly ''another'' death threat:

{{Quote|But, now I am looking to '''slit their throats''' with my long fingernails to force the Total Recall of Everything Sonic Boom to Fix the Mistake to happen SOONER!|Chris, revealing his unusual choice of assassination weapons.}}

Sega never reacted to Chris's demands, not that this stopped him from continuing his ''Sonic Boom'' protests, and even [[26 December 2014|escalating them]] to previously unseen levels.

On 9 [[June 2015]], Chris threatened Sega producer [[Omar Woodley]] with physical violence after it was revealed that ''Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice'' will be a thing.

===Donald Trump===
Chris has an intense hatred of President [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]], to the point that he made two videos of himself role-playing acts of violence on him with ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''[[My Little Pony]]'' toys,<ref>[[September 2016 Paid Video Requests#Paid Message to the Trolls]]</ref><ref>[[Something Completely Different - A few Transformers Jokes, also anti-Pmurt]]</ref> while saying phrases such as "And now, we'll stomp Donald Trump's head".

Within hours of Trump's victory in the 2016 presidential election, Chris posted an [[November_2016_Facebook_posts#Chris_wants_Trump_assassinated|assassination request]] on Facebook. He also uploaded a [[Eid, Pmurt, Eid|video]] of himself attacking one of his toys to show his anger.

It should be noted that calling death on the President of the United States is actually a major offense that can lead to you [http://mashable.com/2016/03/08/secret-service-trump-threats-twitter/#3Y_MJojwhPqB getting a visit from the Secret Service].

===Mike Pence===
On 10 November 2016, Chris also wished death to Vice President-elect {{w|Mike Pence}}, likely because he discovered his views can be arguably considered more malicious than Trump's, along with the President-elect Trump on [[Twitter#10 November 2016.3|a Twitter post]]. He wished for Trump and Pence's deaths by January 2017.

===[[Idea Guys]]===
On 4 July 2019, Chris expressed his impotent frustrations over the Idea Guys' actions from the year before:

{{quotebox|Realizing that it Had been quite, quite the while since I resumed a few days ago and when I ended up stopping in [[Sonichu 15|book 15]], thanks to the events involving Idea Guy and Johnson Wiles, I ended up messing up on [[Rosechu|Rosie]]’s young and short bosoms (I could KILL them Both after they, and Boyd, extorted Six Frigging Thousand Dollars from me during those developmental and Very Eventful Months, IN FULL, Plus Interest!).<ref>[[July 2019 social media posts#Patreon Post: From Start to Recent]]</ref>}}

===Pizza prank trolls===
On 5 August 2019, Chris was inconvenienced by his address being blacklisted from Papa John's pizza delivery service as a result of incessant prank calls from trolls. He wrote an angry tirade to the culprits in which he invoked his [[CPU Blue Heart]] goddess fantasies:

{{quotebox|You Haters MAY Laugh At Yourselves Now, but you all will be laughing out the other side of your face when Fate, Destiny and Karma smacks you Hard and Rough. Even Possible, I’ll have a tangible lightning bolt in my hand, and we’ll see if you survive being Paralyzed or worse.<ref name=pizza></ref>}}

===Characters from Pony Life cartoon===
During [[November 2019]], Hasbro premiered a promo of a spin-off [[My Little Pony]] cartoon titled ''Pony Life'', as a replacement for the long-running ''Friendship is Magic''. An upset Chris complained bitterly, saying he was "Protesting to kill #GOPony."<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1195861845451722752</ref> As Chris believes cartoon characters are real in another [[dimension]] - and, in [[hypocrisy]], has warned Hasbro that ending ''Friendship is Magic'' would devastate that universe<ref>[[Hasbro! MLP G4 Must Continue; NO MLP G5]]</ref> - his announcement is tantamount to death threats against the inhabitants from ''Pony Life''.

===Central Virginia Regional Jail staff===
{{Needs Updating|[[Goddess Log]]}}

===Other===
====[[Harry Potter]]====
Chris's extreme, irrational hatred of the series combined with [[Chris and reality#Fictional Characters and Media|his belief that fictional characters exist on a separate plane of reality]] eventually led him to [[:File:100-DarkCWC.jpg|threaten to kill Harry Potter]] through a Pokémon card.

Given his desire to kill Harry and his [[Chris and race|beliefs on race]], it could be inferred that Chris is a {{w|Death Eater}}.
===Etsy===
On 9 [[December 2025]], a customer named Cooper on [[OfficialCWCmart]] complained that when they informed Chris that their commission was incomplete and had not been delivered until past the due date, he threatened their life because they refused to return the drawing.

Chris did not deny it, but reframed it with his usual mystical bullshit: "I am not sure what threats you feel, I only mentioned the karmic paths that happen on this physical plane as karma effects the physical and spiritual on this half of the universe."<ref>[[OfficialCWCmart replies#Customer allegedly gets threatened]]</ref>

==Chris as a recipient==
Chris said he allegedly received a death threat ("YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!") from [[Michael Snyder]] on 4 [[June 2010]]. Given that Chris was trespassing at the GAMe PLACe again, and that Mike was under the impression that Chris was trying to [[pedofork|photograph his daughter]], this outburst seems fairly reasonable. Chris responded very negatively to this threat, [[Chris and hypocrisy|bitching about the "verbal harassment"]] in his next [[6 June 2010|video]].

Earlier, during the [[Ivy]] saga, Chris received a death threat from a Clyde Cash impersonator. Despite all of his tough talk, Chris was completely paralyzed by fear and actually [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shat his bed]] in terror. Before Ivy could convince him that the threat was an empty one, he had placed a decoy in his soiled bed and hidden it under a pile of stuffed animals, as if he were a child hiding from the boogeyman<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref>.

==Likelihood of Acting Out on Death Threats==
As a bit of reassurance to anyone who thinks that Chris, a [[Autism|mentally ill man]] with a [[Chris and the law|criminal record]] who has endured endless harassment from the [[trolls]] would one day [[Chris and anger|snap]] and [[Strangle_that_Clyde_Cash|attempt to kill somebody]], consider the following. For starters, Chris is a coward, and would likely [[Charlottesville_Fashion_Square#Chris_vs._Fashion_Square|run at the slightest hint of conflict]], possibly [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitting himself in terror]] in the process. Secondly, Chris's poor [[Chris and health|health]], [[Pull-up|lack of exercise]] and [[Don%27t_Mess_With_Me|slow reaction time]] would make being chased and overpowered by him in any instance a sheer impossibility unless the recipient is in [[Barbara Chandler|far worse health than him]]. Also, Chris often assumes that his target would [[Don%27t_Mess_With_Me|simply stand there and let him carry out murder]], almost like an execution, and it's likely that should his target try to fight back, he'll be caught off guard. Last, but not least, Chris seems to prefer that his trolls come [[14 Branchland Court|directly to him]], as going out of his [[Chris%27s_room|comfort zone]] is far too much effort. Lest we forget, he [[Miyamoto_Saga#11_January_2009_to_15_January_2009:_Chris_Can.27t_Afford_to_Fly_to_Redmond|wouldn't even put up $800 to pursue his own lifelong dreams]], so what makes you think he'll even bother going after trolls, even ''if'' he [[Facebook#Maniacal_Laughter_from_Who_now.3F_Oh.2C_wait.2C_It_Is_ME.21_.3E8D|knew where they all lived]]?

Long story short, the most likely outcome of Chris attempting to follow up on his death threats would be a good old-fashioned round of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favorite game]].

==See also==
*[[Chris and anger]]
*[[Chris and death]]
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==References==
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[[Category:Things Chris likes]]
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Talk:Niggos

2025-12-14T16:34:01Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Linking */

Added to "CWC-ism" Since it is yet another replacement for a word that chris feels uneasy with. [[User:IJustDontCareAnymore|IJustDontCareAnymore]] 08:44, 20 April 2009 (CEST)

Wait, since when did he start using this? Proof? --[[User:Lime|Lime]] ([[User_talk:Lime|Scold?]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lime|Undo?]]) 18:00, 29 April 2009 (CEST)

In one of the Bluespike videos he was told to say the word Niggers but instead he said 'Niggos'
*[[User:Magichan|Magichan]] 18:23, 29 April 2009 (CEST)
** Oooooh. Now I remember that. --[[User:Lime|Lime]] ([[User_talk:Lime|Scold?]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lime|Undo?]]) 18:40, 29 April 2009 (CEST)

==Mimms / Lucas Sources==

Where are they from? The sources don't link anywhere. --[[User:Tumbleweed|Tumbleweed]] 11:30, 19 May 2009 (CEST)

: Linked. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:11, 5 June 2009 (CEST)

I think he is actually saying 'niggows'.--[[User:Jessdesu|Jessdesu]] 20:21, 12 August 2009 (CEST)

==Is it Just Me==
Or does the term "Niggos" sound like a Cereal. Try new ''Nigg Os'' from General Mills, with Marshmallow Watermelons, 40s, and buckets of KFC! But seriously, Chris-Chan's racist attitudes are born from his Southern heritage.
*New "Frosted Niggos" combine the deliciousness of watermelon with the refreshment of grape soda. From the maker of "Fucky Charms" and "Homo Nut Cheerios"! Buy now! But seriously, Chris's racist attitudes aren't completely rooted in his heritage. His precious Charlottesville is actually pretty liberal, by Virginia standards, though Bob-the-reprehensible-republican-cur (goddamn that's fun to say) probably put something of a damper on that effect. As mentioned in the article, he's Xenophobic, not white supremacist. Also, he's an autistic manchild who takes stereotypes seriously. Bob quite definitely had a hand in it, but not everything can be chalked up to that. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 17:50, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Suggestion: Change to "Chris and racism" ==
I'm sorry if it's considered inappropriate, but hear me out.

First of all. From what I know (I've lurked on here for quite some time) "niggos" can't be actually considered a CWC-ism. Sorry. I mean, he said the word only one time, and that was because he was forced to say "niggers" and mispronounced it. He then proceeded to say "niggers" the right way several times. It was not a strange retarded euphemism he created himself (as is the case with all other CWC-isms). He never called black people "niggos" by himself and, I guess, doesn't even remember he said that.

However, don't get me wrong, I think the event when Chris was forced to say "niggos"/"niggers" is hilarious, and definitely deserves a mention here.

What I suggest is: rename this article to "Chris and racism".
It should include all races: Black people, Asians, Native Americans, etc. (as diff. sections).
In the "Black people" section, there should be subsections for "Darkies" (I know Chris himself never actually used the word, but he publicly opposed it, and it's often used in trolling, fanart and such), "Niggos", "Niggers" (he actually said this word three times in the same chat; the third time he did it on his own will, citing the song "Don't trust them niggers"), "No blacks", "Half-and-half", and just miscellaneous topics like Obama, jerkops, Blachu etc.

Like I said, there should be also sections on other races; actually I've arrived here having clicked on the word "azn" (it was a caption, describing how a "jerk" drawn by Chris looks Asian).
So, I think, these sections on other races are kinda needed, too.

So, what do you say, guys?
If you think it's worth a shot, and if a mod renames the article, I'm volunteering to edit the article and compile the new sections myself.
Again, sorry if inappropriate [[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 17:26, 18 November 2009 (CET)
*The thing is, "niggos" has become quite iconic and out of all the things Chris could have done (refused to say the n-word, said "n-word" instead of "nigger", bleep himself out, or just not be a retard and end the conversation), he chose "niggos." That seems like a rather deliberate choice of words, not a mispronunciation. If you look back, the page was originally called "Darkies" or maybe it was something like "African Americans" but "Niggos" seems to really capture the essence of it.
:I think that why there's this article and not a general article on Chris's racism is because the early Chris use to explicitly say "NO BLACKS" on his [[Attraction Sign]] and his [[Love Quest]] materials. He wrote a blog entry on [[MySpace]] saying something like "I Respect the African Americans as an Equal" or something like that when trolls started to get on his case about him, the fact he apparently got very nervous around black children while at [[The GAMe PLACe]], and it goes on. He's not really overtly racist towards other races - the runner up would be Chris relating to Hispanics but that can really be mentioned in the [[Ricardo Weston Chandler]] article. Other than that, you'd just have a few one sentence things which can pretty much summed up by "Chris's worldview on race comes entirely from stereotypes depicted by popular culture."
:Obama already has his own article, as do the Jerkops, Blake, etc. and they have some references here.
:Also, on a note, not everything has to be "Chris and x." I think it's fine that the Niggos article primarily addresses Chris's relationship with black people, just as the Ricardo article is mostly about Chris's ventures into the Spanish language.
:So yeah, leave this page alone, niggo. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:40, 20 November 2009 (CET)
**He once said something along the lines of "I hate the Chinese." It's in one of the Mumble chats with Julie. Maybe #3? It will get transcribed eventually. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 10:20, 20 November 2009 (CET)
**Okay, niggo, understood.
::Elaborating on what Anaconda said, how about an "Asians" page then? It could also mention Punchy Sonichu and his story, Prower, how Chris thought Emily was from a Japanese show because she looked Asian, how Chris parodied Japanese accent in of his chats, how Chris thinks Japan is famous for kung fu, etc. etc. Sorry, I'm still trying to figure out what's considered an acceptable addition here [[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 10:27, 20 November 2009 (CET)
* Maybe we can leave this page as it is, and instead make a new one for Chris's general racism? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 19:26, 20 November 2009 (CET)
** After thinking a few secs – yes, I support this suggestion. I even volunteer to create the page, if no one else already wants to do it [[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 20:08, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*** I'll do it. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 07:54, 31 December 2009 (CET)
**** [[Chris and racism|There.]] It's not perfect, but it'll get the job done for now. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 08:29, 31 December 2009 (CET)

== [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] and [[CADD Chef]] shoul be added to the article ==
--[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 21:11, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*Aren't they already? Or do you mean separate sections, with text etc? [[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 21:55, 20 November 2009 (CET)

Just a mention of Chris' troubles with them (and his reaction). --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 00:13, 21 November 2009 (CET)
** But... afaik, those troubles had nothing to do with them being [[niggos]], and everything to do with them being a [[troll]] and a strict teacher. The only thing that needs mentioning here, imo, is that Chris associated Kene Meniru with the Chef from South Park based only on their race. If it isn't there, I'll add it to the article. --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 08:51, 31 December 2009 (CET) P.S.: The Man in the Pickle Suit (well, one of several trolls going by that name) is black? I thought that was just an artists depiction

==This page should be shrunk to his proper size==

Since we got [[Chris and racism]] now, this article should be shrunk to his basic size; the CWC-ism "Niggo". Any good writer out there? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:37, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

== "Chris approved of this pic, and said he liked it." ==

Oh rly? A citation fucking needed. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 08:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
*done [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Black women ==

It's not racist for someone to find black women unattractive. It's just a preference for the physical characteristics of a female. Few men find Nigresses attractive, in point of fact. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 10:02, 4 July 2012 (PDT)

== Snyder claim ==

Snyder's supposed claim about Chris saying nigger like a curse word is contradicted by Mimms who said, "I'm sure he used a few racial slurs, never nigger or anything". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:09, 2 July 2024 (EDT)

== Linking ==
How far should the project go to replace links to this page with the link to blacks on the Race page? Are at least some links staying like those in the template or where "niggos" is directly mentioned? Maybe we could add a "See also: Niggos" line to the Race's blacks section, to keep the documentation of Chris's usage of the term visible. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:07, 14 December 2025 (EST)

Only linked when the slur is mentioned. [[User:Dodo Conservative|Dodo Conservative]] ([[User talk:Dodo Conservative|talk]]) 11:34, 14 December 2025 (EST)

Encyclopedia Dramatica

2025-12-14T04:35:59Z

Dodo Conservative: /* ED discovers Chris */

{{Honest}}
{{protip|Don't try to put mentions of edramatica.com on this page. Only use them to replace broken ed.com links.}}
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{{quote|Behold: The '''Mistake''' of God!|The header on Chris's Encyclopedia Dramatica page.}}

{{Quote|I will see to that website's demise, or my name isn't Christian Weston Chandler.|[[Transgender|Christine Weston Chandler]].<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

'''Encyclopedia Dramatica''' (a.k.a. '''ED''', '''æ''' and [[Speech impediment|'''Ensykapeia Dramakka''']]) is a satirical wiki dedicated to showcasing what its users deem to be everything wrong with the internet, written in a style that demonstrates some of the very things that are wrong with the internet. The site is known for making use of shock value and featuring utterly scathing language used to mock the subjects of its articles.

ED was the home to the [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris-Chan]] page that introduced Chris to the world at large in [[2007]], following [[4-cent_garbage.com|4chan]] and {{w|Something Awful}}'s discovery of the lolcow, which made him a popular target for [[Trolls|trolling]]. Upon learning of ED, Chris began campaigning for the removal of the article for smearing his name, and particularly took offense to various pieces of "fan art" depicting [[Rosechu]] with a [[Pickle|penis]]. Naturally, this just led to the trolls adding more content to the page as he shared a series of written and recorded rants about the article.

In attempted retaliation for the page, Chris added [[Honest Content|lots of embarrassing personal information]] to their article on him, including [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|an infamous drawing]] depicting a sex act between himself and [[Megan Schroeder|a real-life friend]]. Instead of the "information overload" overwhelming the admins into taking the page down, like Chris believed it would, it gave a substantial amount of oxygen to the organized trolling effort while also destroying the aforementioned friendship. The sheer abundance of shenanigans with Chris eventually led to the creation of the [[CWCki]], since the ED page became too long and unwieldy for a single article, which has succeeded ED as the best resource for information on Chris's life.

==ED discovers Chris==
In late October 2007, Chris drew the attention of the folks in a forum at [[Something Awful]], a comedy website. Shortly thereafter, the people at [[4chan]] also trained their lasers on Chris. Topics of discussion included his [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]], his [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|website]], and his [[MySpace]] page. [[Anna McLerran|Anna]]'s blog story, "[[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer]]", was also uncovered. The wealth of information and its lulzworthiness prompted the Anon, later identified as [[Jason Kendrick Howell]], to create the original Chris-chan page on Encyclopedia Dramatica, on 3 November 2007. Within two years, it underwent over 5,000 revisions and became arguably the most popular page on the site.<ref>[[Jason Kendrick Howell interview]]</ref>

==Chris discovers ED==
Almost immediately, Chris discovered his ED page, during what he called "the worst weekend of my life".<ref name="anna">[[Chris emails 2007#November]]</ref> He was horrified by the explicit fan art, which he would later call "Dark Parodic Shit".<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Dark parodic shit]]</ref> He was especially enraged by the inclusion of a recent photo of himself, surreptitiously taken at [[The GAMe PLACe]] by [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and uploaded to 4chan by [[Lucas]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref> "A hacking terrorist group, Anonymous, and 4Chan are somehow involved in that page as well", he intoned.<ref name="anna" />

Chris's initial response to this character assassination was civil. He uploaded a [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement|video]] on 7 November, addressed to ED, politely requesting that the page be removed because it misinterpreted his noble and innocent person. Within a few days, however, he opted to take efforts to personally delete or [[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica|edit]] the page.

After a considerable amount of complaining, Chris posted this gem on the ED talk page:

{{quotebox|I AM ADDING THE [[Rule 34|POSITIVITY]] THIS HELL-HOLE OF A WEBSITE NEEDS; you just do not appreciate the POSITIVITY I AM ADDING TO THE PAGE. What I am doing is a STAND against OFFENSIVE, UNNATURAL, UNREQUIRED [[Pickle|Additions]] to ANY Female Image. What I am doing is a STAND for EVERY SINGLE WOMAN Everywhere, because NO WOMAN would EVER want such a Horrific Twist of Fate. What I am doing is a STAND against the VERY THING that is NOT FUNNY AT ALL!!!!!!!

So, Draw [[Plush Breasts|Breasts]], [[china|Vaginas]], Uterus, Ovaries and the God-Given Eggs within them, you [[Duck|Two-Inch Short]] [[Pickle|Dick-HEADS!!!!!!!!]]

Sincerely, Christian Weston Chandler, A Man For The Women, For the [[Women's Rights]], For the Women's Justice, For the Women's Peace.

P.S. [[Chris and hypocrisy|Grow a BACKBONE and GO ASK WOMEN OUT AS WELL, YOU TROLLS!]]}}

Chris then returned, admitting defeat after his failed attempts to take down the ED page:

{{quotebox|Months ago, I have found from this page being the first of a number hate against me, Christian Weston Chandler. *[[sigh]]* Among the number of you all, my name has been dragged through the mud, my e-mail and MySpace have been hacked for the e-mail information and random information that have been twisted into mockery of [[obesity|my person]], [[Chris and sex|my integrity]], [[List of Chris's lies|my honesty]], [[Ryan Cash|my compassion]], [[heart level|my heart]], [[Chris and religion|my soul]], [[autism|my being]]. Not only that, but the names of my two best gal-pals, [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Anna McLerran]], and my Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon, [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]], have also been dragged through the mud of mockery along with mine. Not only were [[heart level|my feelings were hurt greatly]], but also those of [[Megan]] and [[Anna]], and a number of my acquaintances within my small social circle were shocked and terrified that such [[trolls|cruelty]], such [[pickle|mockery]], such [[homos|hatred]] was built from the number of those who have added more and more to this disgrace of a description of my [[autism|being]].

For a while, I was angry and enraged, and I shoved information and drawings regretfully drawn beyond my personal boundries down the throat of the webmasters of the page, in attempt to kill the hype and hatred against me. But No More, I give up on trying to edit the page to be more positive, or to delete the page altogether.

But I have ONE Question, that I put unto you all, the individuals who have taken part in creating this web page, and I would appreciate an Open, Detailed and Honest Answer from each of you in simple e-mails or reply on this discussion page.

[[CWCki:Frequently Asked Questions|Why do you hate me so much?]]

What did I do against you to cause the hatred against me? What physical or emotional harm have I ensued unto you? Why do you hate me for being myself in this world full of people who can't help but be themselves? I've had nothing against any of you. I don't even know any of you personally, as far as I know. I have nothing that any of you have already, so Why?

I leave you with that to ponder and ponder again over.

Sincerely;

Christian Weston Chandler.}}

Trying another angle, Chris also encouraged ED to muster as his personal army to go after [[Joshua Martinez]].<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20080227084345/http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=Chris-chan&oldid=1997409947</ref> Obviously, nobody did what he asked. He also tried to create a page on ED for his "CCWC's Fanart of Horrors" (see: [[troll]] art), but a sysop immediately caught it and redirected it to an anti-Semitic template.

Chris's meddling with ED was a key reason for the destruction of his relationship with [[Megan]]. On 11 [[November 2007]], in an attempt to "shove so much information down their throats and drown them into taking the page down," Chris uploaded five pornographic drawings to his ED page, including the infamous [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]]. When Megan found out about the drawing in [[March 2008]] and realized she was a part of it, it was the final straw. Chris made more furious efforts to scrub the images from ED, but to no avail. Of course, Chris [[CWC's Second Message|blamed ED for all of this]].

By late summer [[2008]], Chris had largely given up on direct involvement with ED. Around the spring of [[2009]], he may have posted one or two comments on the ED talk page referring to [[Clyde Cash]]. The first is below. It was deleted fairly quickly.

{{quotebox|I have learned that there was a connection between her and a state in Washington where some of you have been lurking, and that she was not found in any public records. It took me a week to recover from the [[heart level|crestfallen emotions]], but I am moving on with my life.

Also, you'll have to catch me IRL ONLY to [[troll]] me any further. [[fangs|Do you dare?]]

Peace-Out, Christian Weston Chandler

--ChrisChanSonichu 22:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)}}

There was some dispute over it actually being Chris, until he himself confirmed it in the post that followed:

{{quotebox|Hey, [[Clyde Cash|CLYDE]], you JERK. I said "IN REAL LIFE", not [[PS3|Playstation]]. Also, why don't you be the man you CLAIM to be and face me yourself? You keep sending out your prawns to do your dirty work, you coward. >:-(

Christian C.}}

According to Clyde, the above entry was deleted after roughly a minute, probably due to Chris realizing that if he were to ever arrange to meet Clyde, he'd only send his parents anyway.

==Chris-Chan (forum)==

[[Image:Edfcwcusers.jpg|thumb|Your average Chris-chan following EDiot.]]

'''Chris-chan''' was a subforum of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] forums (commonly referred to as '''EDF'''). It was created such that the talk page for the Chris-chan article could be used for its rightful purpose to discuss improving the article.

Chris indicated in his 13 [[September 2009]] video that he had read the ED forums and had discovered a plan to photoshop images so they looked like they were from a Sonichu game.<ref>[[Chris dispels videogame rumors]]</ref> Chris firmly believed this forum to be the main hub for trolling activity, despite other forums and websites (such as [[CWCki|this one]] at that time) having far more significance.

==Later developments==
{{quote|I do think it is a little behind [[CWCki|cwcwiki]] [sic] on a few things, though, but that is to be expected.|[[Jason Kendrick Howell]] on the ED article two years after its creation<ref>[[Jason Kendrick Howell interview]]</ref>}}
[[Image:Drycow.PNG|thumb|Uploaded 12 December 2008, before the new comic, [[Miyamoto]] saga, and [[BlueSpike]] saga]]

For several months before the events of the [[BlueSpike]] saga in early 2009, many thought that Chris had dried up, that Chris could go no further down the rabbit hole. The [[Blanca Weiss#FCTC|FCTC]]'s posting of new pics of Chris's bent [[duck]] in December 2008 prompted an ED admin to lock the talk page and demand satisfaction.<ref>"MINE: What this talkpage is. If you guys continue your faggotry after this protection expires today I will lock it down longer, and then eventually permanently."--Arguecat3, now former ED sysop, 4 December 2008.

"I say we just delete it. Along with the archives"--Zaiger, now former ED sysop, 5 December 2008.

"Fuck this article and it's talk page. Stupid discussions unrelated to upkeep and editing are the only thing keeping this shit interesting. You guys take this shit WAY to srsly. Find another retard to stalk fgts"--Zaiger, now former ED sysop, 10 December 2008.</ref>

Encyclopedia Dramatica’s coverage of Chris and ''Sonichu'' became a victim of its own success: despite having many sub-pages to reduce pressure on the main article, ED could not cope with the continued growth of interest in Chris, especially in the aftermath of the FCTC posts. ED also experienced problems with misinformation on Chris, occasionally removing false or exaggerated rumors such as the claim that Chris attempted to [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|molest]] [[Patti Chandler|Patti]], or that [[Ivy]] was just a [[Sex dolls|blow-up doll]].

On 25 [[January 2009]], five days after one of Chris’s [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|biggest revelations]], the [[CWCki]] came into existence: those interested in Chris’s antics quickly found the CWCki to be more accurate and less biased or exaggerated than ED, with TV Tropes once describing the CWCki to be "more accurate and slightly more SFW" than ED.

[[Image:Chris-chan ED April Fools' 2009.PNG|thumb|April Fool's article.]]
On April Fools' Day 2009, ED finally bent to Chris's will and removed all his personal information from the site, and replaced the article with an apology. Unsurprisingly, though, Chris's ED page was back up on April 2.

ED’s coverage of Chris continued to get updates until [[April 2011]], when ED relaunched as ''Oh Internet'': an attempt to raise the revenue required to stay online by removing controversial content that would deter advertisers. However, the move also reduced coverage of Chris to a single page, and left out much of the crucial content that defined Chris, such as [[CWCville]].<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20120731163509/http://ohinternet.com/Chris-chan Chris-chan] on ''Oh Internet''</ref>

In [[October 2013]], ''Oh Internet'' quietly went offline following internal disputes and divisions over the 2011 relaunch, and work began on rebuilding Encyclopedia Dramatica by scraping articles and images from archived websites: ED then struggled to stay online through numerous domains over the years. As of {{CURRENTYEAR}}, ED and their coverage of Chris and ''Sonichu'' barely cling on to life, with most of the information long superseded by [[CWCki|this very wiki]]. In a sense, Chris has sort of triumphed over ED by means of outlasting them in terms of overall relevancy, but at a great cost to himself and the people associated with him.

As for Chris himself, the ED page bothered him for years, and presumably still does, but he rarely mentions it anymore. An [[Chris chan (CWCipedia)|entire page]] of Chris's website, established in [[December 2009]], was dedicated to "correcting" the evil ED article with his own True and Honest take on the situation. Naturally, it was all about how Chris isn't remotely responsible for anything he has done wrong, and how it's all the fault of his [[autism]] or those DANG DIRTY TROLLS. However, Chris's worsening grasp on [[reality]], and changing priorities on [[CWC's Hallmark Negative Life Events|other enemies]], caused his rage against ED to decline to a point where he only made occasional references.<ref>[[July 2012 Facebook posts#E.D. is back up]]</ref>

Unsurprisingly, Chris has apparently never seriously contemplated the fact that his one-man crusade against ED was probably one of the biggest unforced errors of his life, and certainly one of the most defining. Had he simply ignored the page, he would likely have faded into relative obscurity as people moved on to the next attention-grabbing weird loser, much like what happened with countless other lolcows who have come and gone before and since. Instead, he fed the trolls by touching the poop, drawing more attention to himself and proving that trolling him would be guaranteed to get a reaction out of him. To say nothing about all the ammunition he gave them for free, along with revealing some of his most unsavory traits, which allowed many people to justify trolling him. The ED debacle shows that, at the end of the day, Chris is his own worst enemy.

==Sources==
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==See also==

*[[Chris-Chan (CWCipedia)]]
*[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
*[[You know what, I HATE ME TOO!!!]]
*[[Jason Kendrick Howell interview]]
*[[4-cent garbage]]
*[[Chris's sex joke]]

==External links==
*[https://edramatica.com/Chris-chan Chris's page on the "new" "new" "new" "new" "new" “new” ED]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20090216213714/http://encyclopediadramatica.com/User:Reldnahc Chris's ED account]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20120731163509/http://ohinternet.com/Chris-chan Oh Internet article (SFW!)]
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20071104144918/http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan Earliest archived version of the "Chris-chan" page on the Wayback Machine.]
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The GAMe PLACe

2025-12-14T04:34:22Z

Dodo Conservative: /* Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe */

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from [[August 2011]] until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995. It is located about 12 miles away from [[14 Branchland Court]].

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant [[Chris and race|racism]] with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and another patron were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:

{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he put together his decks. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also wished for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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