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Naught

2024-11-07T22:52:04Z

Emmeff: Fixed the incorrect statement that the color coding for Naught was in green, and fixed inconsistent wording in the page of how the logs would be color coded.

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{{Unreliable|type=cred|Naught is a habitual liar and gives contradictory statements.{{refn|group="note"|Falsely claimed [[Watchmen]] members were appointed by the [[Guard Dogs]] group, a claim that Marvin, a former Guard Dog, disagreed with. Initially denied, then admitted to, doxing [[The WCT]]. Naught had also claimed to promise to Null to stop making sockpuppets to like his own posts, which he did anyway, leading to his main account getting banned.}}|Naught is noted for having delusions of grandeur.<ref group=note>On one ocassion, Naught threatened a member of [[Midnight Moonflower]]'s Discord Server that she'd be doxed, proclaiming that he "curbs weens and alogs".</ref>|Naught will often put his own spin on events that happened, embellish them, or try to demonize people he's interacted with, sometimes leaving out important context.{{refn|group="note"|Omitted key context from his leak of [[Taser Discussion]]. He also used a [[:File:PraetorSample.jpg|cropped out]] "you may also like" portion of an Etsy sale for a Sonichu medallion, claiming it to be on the Praetor etsy page.}}|Naught appears to take advantage of his presumed allies, encourages infighting between them, and throws them under the bus when it is most convenient for him.<ref group = note>Has attempted to use at least two of his associate's Kiwi Farms accounts, and doxed the WCT after they declined him using it. The dox would lead to significant infighting between him and Naught.</ref>}}
{{Unreliable|type=sock}}

{{quote|You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.|Naught on why he 'protects' Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
|name = Naught
|aliases = Bismuth Bis CPU Bismuth Heart nitto nanashi . ❤️ heart<ref group=note>A nickname given to Naught, alluding to him using a heart emoticon as his username in the CWCki Discord Server</ref> tabula rasa<ref>[[:File:Naught-CWC-7Sept20 - Handle shipments6.jpg]]</ref> anameisaname death of chans Nightmare .moe Toad WCT Hate<ref name = "naughtthread"></ref> [[User:Ihasnoname|Ihasnoname]] noot snafu zilch atomized -<ref>In [[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]], Chris chats with - and calls him by his Bismuth alias.</ref> ภคยﻮђՇ<ref>[[Naught DMs#Fulfill the orders]]</ref> W.T.snacks<ref name=wt>[https://www.onionfarms.com/attachments/halal-server-zip.10884/ Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms] See "Halal - Watchmen - silvia-spunk-emily-spruill-silverangel [873480191501017089" channel at 07-Aug-21 07:43 AM timestamp</ref> Archivist NEET Samurai ladmin
|image = Naught.jpg
|size = 250
|gender = Male
|nationality = American
|race = Mixed (White/Asian)
|organization = [[Watchmen]]
|knownfor = • Being the self-proclaimed leader of the Watchmen • Being the original [[Lainchu]] • Inviting Chris into the Discord Server for the CWCki • Providing numerous Chris related leaks on the CWCki server • Spreading rumors about various Chris orbiters, including members in his own group
|saga = {{saga|shipfic|cn}}, {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}
|occupation = Self-proclaimed Leader of the Watchmen (former) Owner of the The Place server Administrator of the Onion Farms
|}}

'''Naught''', also known as '''Bismuth''' and plenty of other pseudonyms, is one of the most prominent members of the defunct [[Watchmen]]. He was one of the owners of their [[Discord]] server [[The Place]]. Naught monitored, harassed, and sought to [[dox]] those he perceived as potential [[weens]] or [[enablers]] who existed outside of the Watchmen clique. Naught was also a prominent contributor to the [[Watchmen infighting drama]]s which eventually culminated in both his omission from the group as it re-formed into the [[Knights of CWC]], and Chris cutting ties with him.

Naught went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" and '''CPU Bismuth Heart''' to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. While he was in the [[Official CWCki Server]], he often used an emoticon of a heart. For the [[Kiwi Farms]], he went by names/accounts including "'''anameisaname'''", "'''death of chans'''", "'''Nightmare'''".<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/ OP of Naught's lolcow.org thread] ([https://archive.fo/G30td archive])</ref>, and "'''.moe'''".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/halal-private-channels-halal-general-873250859369250879-html.2444981/ A Kiwi Farms link to a private channel in the Halal Server, See 06-Aug-21 2:10 PM timestamp]</ref> Naught claims to have used at least 22 sockpuppet accounts on Kiwi Farms alone.<ref name=twentytwo>[[:File:TwentyTwoSocks.JPG]]</ref>

When Chris had discussed with Naught and other members of [[The Place]] about planning to use one of [[Praetor]]'s [[taser]]s to tase his quartz crystals, Naught, along with MKRNightVee, The WCT, and Kyle, confronted [[Caden Peck]]. Naught and MKRNightVee created and pushed rumors that Praetor members wanted to get Chris to tase himself, leaked bits of chats out-of-context regarding the issue to frame Praetor, and even doxed Caden. All of this upset Chris and resulted in him calling The Place members out for it.

==Trolling years==

According to a thread on Naught co-created by [[The WCT]] and another member on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org, before becoming an ardent white knight of Chris's, Naught was initially one of Chris's lesser trolls. Naught was allegedly a lesser member of [[the Miscreants]], and it is believed that his voice could be faintly heard in the second half of [[Mumble 9]].<ref name=naughtthread></ref> The thread had also claimed that Naught had stated regret for trolling Chris in private, though the circumstances at which this happened and/or the private messages themselves are undisclosed, and had been a white knight of Chris's since the mid 2010s.

==Interactions with Chris==
[[File:CPUBismuthHeart.jpg|150px|thumb|left|Avatar of CPU Bismuth Heart.]]
Chris stated that Naught began interacting with him in late 2019 after approaching him when Chris was creating an expansion pack for lore provided to him by MKRNightVee and Jacob.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Nauht and Geno]]</ref> Naught would roleplay with Chris as the CPU Goddess, '''Vee''', '''CPU Bismuth Heart''', the CPU goddess of the children's educational game console, the V-Smile.

In most [[Naught DMs|conversations]] between Chris and Naught, Chris had spoken to him about his dreams and delusions. Chris has talked to Naught about all of the surreal dreams that he had all throughout the summer of 2020.<ref>[[Dreams#Summer 2020 dreams]]</ref> Naught had also shown Chris various anime and manga, much of which Chris had implemented in his fantasies.<ref>[[The Place chats - Infighting, Anime, and the Merge]]</ref> At one point, Naught had recommended the anime series ''Higurashi'' to Chris, believing that it would be of interest of him due to the show's use of time travel.

When Chris created a video where he [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|discusses plans to create a will]], Chris had shared the video with Naught in a Google Drive on 6 August 2020, and told him not to leak the video. After this, Naught was concerned about the morose implications of the video, and created a CWCki account, '''Ihasnoname''', where he created a page to leak the video on. Naught had also provided commentary and context on a number of transcribed DMs between him and Chris.

[[File:SonichuOrder.png|thumb|170px|An order from a customer, which Naught had posted on the Second Layer of The Place.]]

Chris, not wanting to deal with customers, had demanded Naught to keep track of orders made for his [[TSSSF]] cards and Sonichu comics.<ref name=TSSSF>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Orders From 2020]]</ref> In September 2020, Chris had sent the information of 23 of his paying customers when they bought merchandise from him after sending payment information to Naught, which contained the customer's name, address, phone number, and email. Naught then posted the orders including the doxes on the second layer of [[The Place]] server, where he had posted pdfs of the Sonichu comics up to [[Sonichu #13]] and a Google Drive of all of Chris's [[TSSSF]] cards.<ref name=TSSSF></ref>

Naught encouraged Chris to go onto the [[Official CWCki Server]] in [[August 2020]],<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Inviting Chris to Official CWCki Server]]</ref> roughly a month after the server's creation. On the server, Naught had also leaked a number of posts and photos he found onto the server.

Late in February 2021, Naught had discussed plans with [[MKRNightVee]] to get Chris to interact with the lolcow Alexander Gordon Jahans, whom both Naught and MKR had interest in, though no signs of them interacting ever came.<ref>[[The Place chats - Jahans discussion]]</ref>

Naught claimed to having been the original player of the [[Lainchu]] character,<ref name=NaughtLainchu></ref> and has hinted at getting Chris interested in the anime the character was based on, Serial Experiments Lain, in a private chat.<ref>[[The Place chats - Jahans discussion#18 March 2021, part 1]]</ref> However, Naught also claims that he passed off the role for "reasons he can't recall".<ref name=NaughtLainchu>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Rejection of the Fourth Lainchu]]</ref>

Chris used [[Tarot]] readings to divine Naught's future in April 2021. Naught posted these tarot readings on Onion Farms.<ref>{{Cite onion|thread=2150}}</ref> In the divine readings, Chris declares that as leader Naught will likely speak up against others on certain topics. The end of the divine readings has Chris telling Naught to "embrace his weirdness".

==As a Watchman==

{{quote|i curb weens and alogs|Naught on his duties as a Watchman|<ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid]]</ref>}}

[[File:Naught'sPowerFantasy.jpg|thumb|Naught threatening to "curb" a Discord user.]]

After [[Owls]] left the CWC scene, Naught stepped into his position. Naught become an owner of the Watchmen server [[The Place]]. On 13 February 2021, Naught stepped down and transferred ownership of The Place to [[Kyle]].<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#Transfer of Power]]</ref>

Naught was also in the habit of trying to get fellow Watchmen members to share their Kiwi Farms accounts with him. He made use of [[Spunky]]'s account, "Thetarotreader96", repurposing it as "death of chans".<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-16378 (archive: https://archive.ph/sHJsm)</ref> Naught also tried asking [[The WCT]] for his credentials; when The WCT declined, Naught posted his dox in retaliation.

===Midnight Moonflower===

When they have heard that Chris was a member of her server, Naught, along with several other Watchmen members had raided [[Midnight Moonflower]]'s Discord server to cut contacts between her and Chris, under the belief that she was a ween, and warning them that they may get doxed due to their association with Chris, while also telling them about his duty to "curb weens and alogs", and that they could potentially get a CWCki page or Kiwi Farms thread.<ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raids]]</ref>

===Conflicts with Praetor===

The earliest Chris has been known to discuss [[Praetor]] with Naught was on 14 October 2020, where he discusses their interpretation of his [[Disc Dream]], and mentions their plans of him doing a [[Goochland Library Sermon|sermon at the Goochland Public Library]]. Naught replied to the video plans with "Are you sure you're comfortable with doing a video? And was this cadens idea?". When Chris replies to being comfortable with doing the video, Naught had told Chris to be sure that doing so would be "mutually beneficial and reciprocal".<ref>[[Naught DMs#Praetor]]</ref>

On [[February 2021]], Chris had stated to [[Kyle]] that he wished to open an inter-dimensional portal by shocking his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]]. Chris had decided that he could do this by asking Praetor for one of their tasers, and state the news to Naught.<ref>[[Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser]]</ref> Naught had then notified members of The Place about these plans, and gathered them up to confront the Praetors themselves.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#5 February 2021]]</ref>

Afterwards, Naught posted Chris announcing this to him onto Kiwi Farms, while claiming that he was concerned that they were in on a "plot" involving [[Larry Vaughn]] which involves getting Chris to tase himself. In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed",<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=naught|thread=84502|post=8301396}}</ref> omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected. The post had also included a [[Taser Discussion|voice chat]] which has been heavily edited to only include specific clips to frame Praetor members for this alleged plan.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discusion clip]]</ref> In the clip, [[Val]] states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. [[Praetor]] member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about ''why'' it's a bad idea."

==Chris cuts ties==
Chris cut contact with Naught in [[June 2021]], citing Naught's toxic behavior in doxing fellow Watchman [[The WCT]]. The WCT had convinced him to cut ties with Naught, along with [[MKR]] and [[Kyle]], who had sided with Naught.<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]]</ref><ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref>

Chris texted [[Null]] about the matter. Null himself had a falling out with Naught earlier that month, having banned his accounts from [[Kiwi Farms]].<ref>[[:File:NaughtSocks.JPG]]</ref> Chris told Null he had listened to audio where Naught lied about his role in doxing The WCT, and he concluded that Naught "sounded like he was heavily defending himself and covering something up", although Chris left open the possibility that Naught was being controlled by an external force. Nonetheless, Chris told Null he decided to leave [[The Place]] and mute Naught, MKR, and Kyle's phone numbers. Null responded that it was a good idea.<ref>[[Null DMs#Watchmen drama]]</ref>

WCT reformed the Watchmen group into the [[Knights of CWC]], leaving out Naught, MKR, and Kyle.

Naught would eventually publicly admit he had done the dox because WCT had declined to share his Kiwi Farms account with him after Naught had been banned.<ref name=doxadmit>[[:File:Naught on WCT dox.png]]</ref><ref name=naughtedit>[https://archive.ph/wip/9215A Archive of the edit]</ref>

==Interviews==
===Origins===
[[File:Marvin on conventions claim.png|thumb|200px|Guard Dog [[Marvin]] disagrees with a claim made by Naught.]]
The following is a conversation between a Christorian and Naught via Discord; the users are color-coded red and navy blue, respectively. The interview was originally placed on the Watchmen CWCki page but was later removed due to uncorroborated statements made by Naught<ref>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Watchmen&type=revision&diff=252258&oldid=252227</ref> and is now archived on this page.

Naught claimed that some members of the Watchmen had been operating since [[2018]], as the spiritual successor to the [[Guard Dogs]] – the latter having disbanded around the same time frame. However, Naught's account was disputed by a member of the Guard Dogs.

Naught also claimed that Watchmen members [[MKRNightVee]] and [[AquaDiamond8]] were picked by [[Null]]. However, MKRNightVee got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number for her<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> and Aqua joined during the [[Sockness]] saga by which time Null had been distant from Chris.

{{quoteboxred|I had a question in my head, if its fine for me to ask, could you tell me how exactly you guys met CWC and when you formed the group}}

Naught quoted a now-deleted section from the [[Guard Dogs]] CWCki article:
{{quoteboxwhite|Following the incidents at TooManyGames, in which Chris was thrown out of the con for being too handsy with other attendees, Null and several other members of the Guard Dogs began investigating Justin Silverman's account of the situation, intending to find out if Justin had overreacted towards Chris's behaviour. Ultimately, this investigation petered out with no real progress having been made, save for the fact that the Guard Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at any conventions he visited from then on.}}

{{quoteboxred|Oh, so you guys were picked by Null}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah that's why Marvin is there since the captain couldn't stick around but the plan is still the same}}

{{quoteboxred|Ah, so the captain was in there too but left after a while}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah mkr helped get the cwc protect squad out of the way with the fan art for cwc}}

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===History===
On 4 [[September 2020]], a Christorian interviewed Naught through Discord, asking questions about the Watchmen. The users are color-coded red and navy blue, respectively.

The first four questions appear to be referring to the [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] server.

{{quoteboxred|Who started it and why?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Owls the guy who set-up mkr and [[Joseph Draft]] got aqua and mkr to draw some art to lure cwc in.}}

{{quoteboxred|How did Chris join there?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|I was told it was going to be for Chris's patrons.}}

{{quoteboxred|Why was it killed?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|It was killed because owls and Joseph didn't know how to wrangle tards. Mkr aqua were being blamed for making it so I asked for a mod role kept asking for more perms and deleted all the channel's. I posted the rolling and trolling vid.}}

{{quoteboxred|Who killed it?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|I killed it, Joseph and Smokey Chris TheSperge were using the server to gather content, they convinced Joseph I was Johan.

After a 4 hour conversation I got Joseph draft to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet.}}

The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.

{{quoteboxred|Why did Aqua leave?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Stress and people @ her on Twitter

Her and mkr are still frens}}

{{quoteboxred|Will this group be around forever?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|As long as Chris is in need or willing yes}}

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===Follow-up on Origins===
Afterwards, the CWCki Editor [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] asked Naught to clarify the Watchmen's origins. In a prior interview, Naught had claimed the Watchmen to have been working with the Guard Dogs to supervise Chris at conventions, however a Guard Dog disagreed with the claim. Naught blamed Watchmen founder [[Owls]], claiming the story was what he had been told by Owls.

{{quoteboxred|Are you the one the CWCki calls Naught?

Wanted to ask something clarifying the Watchmen origins if so. There's conflicting statements.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yes}}

{{quoteboxred|So you quoted the Guard Dogs article to explain the group origins - a section that said the Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at cons after the TMG disaster. But the editor who put that in since retracted it for lack of source and Marvin said there were no babysitters and that Chris was on his own.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah that's what owls/Ryan told me

He's no longer around he's ghostbird on the farm's}}

{{quoteboxred|Hmm. Interesting.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|That's why I'm around he wasn't reporting back to Marvin

There was something about the footage smokey chris and theSperge}}

{{quoteboxred|Owl's was the original person behind the group?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|He started [[The Place|the place]] server and was telling mkr and Marvin he was doing x y and z but wasn't}}

{{quoteboxred|Alright if I quote you on on the CWCki? Gonna try to fix up the Origins section.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Ok

There was even a panel where he insisted his owl avatar in the comic}}

{{quoteboxred|MKR's?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah owls was the one making it canon mkr draws}}

{{quoteboxred|Alright, thanks for the info.}}

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==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)]]
*[[MKRNightVee]]
*[[Naught DMs]]
*[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)]]
*[[The Place chats - Jahans discussion]]
*[[Watchmen infighting drama]]

==Notes==
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{{Unreliable|type=cred|WCT is noted for being egotistical and having many delusions of grandeur.<ref group=note>WCT had often made comments about being "one of the final protagonists" of Christory, and has on some ocassions [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sean-walker-psychic-espeon-wct.97689/page-21#post-9752790 compared himself to the Kiwi Farms owner, Null] or made comments about his influence and "power" on the CWCSphere.</ref>|WCT will often say edgy things for shock value.|WCT has made bold, accusatory claims without verifying them first.{{refn|group="note"|Attempted to throw [[Null]] under the bus by claiming that Null had been aware of Chris's [[Affair with Mother]] and did nothing to stop it.<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls#Pre-Jail Interview]] at the 1:25:37 mark</ref> However, Null's DMs with Chris indicate Null was not aware.<ref>[[Null DMs]]</ref> When [[Bella]] gave WCT her [[fabricated BDSM texts]], he believed Bella when she claimed that [[Fiona]] also had those; subsequently attempted to throw Fiona under the bus by claiming her as the sole source for the text instead of naming Bella}}}}
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{{Infobox Person
|title = The WCT
|name = Sean Walker
|image = WCT1.png|imagesize= 200
|birthsrc =
|aliases = The Wildcat (WCT) Yosemite Cat Logan<ref>[https://archive.fo/1MuIB Archive of Logan Kiwi Farms profile]</ref> Neko / Neko Onyx<ref name=RSD>See Gallery section in [[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref> CPU Onyx Heart<ref>[[:File:Cpu onyx heart-min.jpg]]</ref> Mage Leo Azul<ref name=EverfreeSecurity/> Psychic Espeon<ref name=WCTEspeon>{{cite farms|thread=31437|title=Randy Stair / Andrew Blaze / PioneersProductions & Ember's Ghost Squad (EGS)|post=7364906}} Psychic Espeon's former Kiwi Farms username was The WCT.</ref> Kat<ref name=RSD></ref> BrownHairedDragon<ref name="BrownHairedDragon"/> Conner<ref name=bellaarrive>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Bella Arrives, How Bella Knows Chris, Intentions, Convention Plans]]</ref> World Trade Center<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20210911180701/https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/</ref> currentlyinexile Chairmen Miaozer TheGhost
|gender = Male<ref name="WCTWiki"/>
|race = Mixed
|knownfor =• Helping Chris record an audio clip telling Sockness to stay away • Convincing Chris to cut ties with [[The Place]] Discord server and three of its members, and having private conversations with him. • Enabling delusions of Chris's regarding [[Randy Stair]] • Creating the Knights of CWC server • Being the tentative fourth [[Lainchu]], only to then be rejected by Chris • Hosting the [[Regarding Chris]] group chat to question [[Bella]].
|nationality = American
|occupation = Founder and leader of Knights of CWC Amatuer Documentarian
|saga = {{saga|jacob|cn}}, {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}, {{saga|incest|cn}}
}}

{{quote|As powerful as I’ve recently became lately, it’s also best to keep myself in check.

Or else, I’ll end up using said powers for evil like [[Naught|Bismuth]].|WCT, talking about his 'power' in the 'CWCsphere'}}

{{quote|With Andrew and Ember's help, I will defeat Bismuth for good. And to ensure that he doesnt hurt another innocent again|WCT relaying [[Randy Stair]] lore to Chris, saying that him and a [[Wikipedia:Danny Phantom|Danny Phantom]] character will help defeat [[Naught]]<ref name=EverfreeSecurity></ref>}}

{{quote|You can go live in a video with your thoughts and insight about MLP G5, and comment with the details I have shared so far, and what you, as well, have seen in your visions, and even heard from talking with the spirits and angels from the realms.

This could very well be another instance the Messenger WildLeo (you) comes through in breaking up the chaos and boughts.|Chris to The WCT, hoping he can help stop ''[[My Little Pony]]'' G5<ref name=poniesrp>[[WCT DMs#Role-playing to cope with MLP cartoon]]</ref>}}

'''Sean Walker''', more commonly known as '''The Wildcat (WCT)''' and '''CPU Onyx Heart''', also known as '''Psychic Espeon''', '''Neko Onyx''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, is a former [[Watchmen]] member and amateur documentarian who made documentaries on dark or edgy topics.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=Caeser|thread=97689|post=9725741}}</ref> He is self-described as "one of the most powerful people in the CWC sphere."<ref name='finalprotagonist'>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9742266|title=Discord screenshots of WCT declaring himself as "one of the final protagonists"}}</ref> He boasted that he was proud about his eventual feature in [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|Geno Samuel's documentary series]], claiming himself as "one of the final protagonists."<ref name='finalprotagonist'/> He has also made a few comments where he had compared himself to [[Null]],<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9752790}}</ref> or brought up his supposed influence on the CWCSphere. The WCT even had one of his pseudonyms being "'''Conner''',"<ref name=bellaarrive></ref> Josh's middle name.

WCT had a conflict with [[Naught]], [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] - in which Naught had doxed WCT on Kiwi Farms for declining to share his Kiwi Farms account<ref name=naughtedit>[https://archive.ph/wip/9215A Archive of Naught's CWCki edit]</ref> and Kyle and MKR had refused to believe Naught had done so.<ref name=watchmencall></ref> WCT created another Discord group, [[The Knights of CWC]], modelling it after the previous Watchmen group run by Naught and Kyle, [[The Place]].

As a Watchman, WCT was concerned with protecting Chris from malicious individuals. In 2019, he was involved with [[Chris Releases A Statement Regarding Jacob Sockness]], an audio recording Chris released to Twitter in order to discourage [[Jacob Sockness]] from coming to his house. Two years later, WCT would again try to intervene against Sockness's plan to meet Chris at [[Everfree Northwest]],<ref name=EverfreeSecurity>[[WCT DMs#Everfree security]]</ref> though Chris's arrest for [[Affair with Mother|incest]] would cause him to miss the convention.

Some of WCT's actions garnered controversy. He, like several other Watchmen, were enablers to Chris's delusions as they would play along with his fantasies. In WCT's case, he played along with Chris's fantasies over the shooter [[Randy Stair]], who was a subject of a documentary series of WCT's own, being a guardian figure.

After being doxed by Naught, The WCT had collaborated with [[Isabella Janke]] to dox Naught back. During the wake of the [[Affair with Mother|incest]] scandal, WCT questioned Bella about her involvement in the [[Incest call]]; he was then tricked by her into believing her [[fabricated BDSM texts]] were real and that [[Fiona]] also had them in her possession, and he then spread the texts onto the [[Kiwi Farms]] while claiming Fiona as his sole source and partially revealing her identity as well. In addition, WCT's former associate, [[MKRNightVee]], spread a rumor about him that he "probably wants Chris to kill himself"<ref name=mkrrumor>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref> in retaliation for WCT convincing Chris to leave [[The Place|her group's Discord server]]. These actions and circumstances would result in him receiving considerable flak, ultimately causing him to retreat from the internet and go in hiding.

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==As a Watchman==
[[File:WCTYoutubeIcon.png|thumb|WCT's icon used for his YouTube channel. This was the icon most associated with him.]]
===Becoming a Watchman===

WCT, an amatuer documentarian, was fascinated by GenoSamuel's ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'' series in early to mid-2018, and archived the series on his YouTube channel The WCT when the original ''History'' was terminated by YouTube.<ref name="WCTWiki"/>

According to Naught, WCT joined the [[Discord#CWC Rebellion|CWC Rebellion server]], where he made friends with a user named "Smoky Chris" and that the aspiring documentarians met in GenoSamuel's Discord server some time in 2019.<ref name=naughtclaimbg>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sean_Walker&type=revision&diff=273050&oldid=273047 CWCki edit by Naught] (archive: https://archive.ph/fVnw7)</ref> Naught also claimed to have met WCT in the GenoSamuel server when Naught also hung out with Joseph Draft, director of [[Chris Chan VS. The Internet|CWC vs the world]] and that the two were both early Watchmen.<ref name=naughtclaimbg></ref>

[[File:The WCT avatar.png|thumb|left|150px|The avatar MKRNightVee drew for The WCT]]
He later joined the Watchmen, where he mainly archived calls involving Chris while maintaining a YouTube channel that posted Chris-centric content which has since been privated. In February 2021, he attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of '[[Lainchu]],' an OC created by the Watchmen, but was rejected by Chris, who still preferred his predecessor.<ref name=lainchu>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Rejection of the Fourth Lainchu]]</ref>

===Internal conflicts===
On Christmas Eve of 2020, Chris had mentioned concerns about The WCT being banned from [[The Place]], alleging that it was due to political jokes he made.<ref>[[The Place chats - Infighting, Anime, and the Merge]]</ref> Kyle replies that he is unsure about unbanning him, and complains about The WCT "leaking" information. When Chris responds that WCT hadn't been leaking anything, Naught and Kyle respond that he doesn't leak on purpose, with Naught claiming that WCT had hinted at the existence of The Place server.

WCT was doxed on /cow/ in 2019, and on lolcow farm. Early in [[June 2021]], The WCT dox was reposted on Kiwi Farms by fellow Watchman and group leader Naught (also known as Bismuth).<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ Bismuth thread on lolcow.org] [https://archive.fo/G30td (archive)]</ref> When WCT confronted Naught in a voice chat, Naught denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox WCT in an attempt to silence him.<ref name=watchmencall>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]]</ref> WCT explained the events to Chris himself, who believed The WCT's evidence and cut ties with Naught over it.<ref name=watchmencall></ref><ref name=wctinterview>[[The WCT#Interview|July 2021 interview]]</ref> Naught had eventually confirmed his doxing of WCT on 30 August 2021 in an Onion Farms message<ref name=doxadmit>[[:File:Naught on WCT dox.png]]</ref> and again on 29 November 2021 while editing his CWCki page.<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sean_Walker&diff=next&oldid=273048 Naught's edit]</ref> Naught had also stated in the edit that The WCT acussing him of sending strikes on his videos would futher justify decision to dox him. After receiving strikes for his videos, WCT would then create a new channel to host his content, "Yosemite Cat."<ref>[[WCT DMs#Video Strikes]]</ref>

Shortly after, WCT was banned from [[The Place]], the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris left the server himself. In WCT's own words, "[Chris] saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=watchmencall></ref><ref name=wctinterview></ref> WCT had claimed in a later post to an interviewee that he had decided to "take down the group" as a result of Naught doxing him, taking Chris with him in order to "punish" other members in the group.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=TV's Adam West|thread=97689|post=9742586}}</ref>

[[MKR]] later jumped to several baseless conclusions over the matter and circulated several rumors. In late June she tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> accusing WCT of having sinister motives, including "probably [wanting] Chris to kill himself in a similar manner [to Randy Stair].<ref name=mkrrumor></ref>

WCT created a successor group and invited in Chris and several of the Watchmen who had been in The Place, titling his group [[Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]]. There, he served as the Watchmen's third leader, though he was also unsure of putting the group under the Watchmen moniker. As leader, WCT sought to take a less aggressive approach to other Chris orbiters than Naught had, stating to [[Helena]] that he would "[[Isabella Loretta Janke|give anybody who befriends Chris a chance]] until it becomes clear to me they have awful intentions."<ref>[[Helena-WCT DMs]]</ref>

WCT gave [[The WCT#Interview|an interview to the CWCki]] explaining his side of the story.

==Interactions with Chris==
{{Needs Updating|[[WCT DMs#Sockness alert]]}}
{{Main|WCT DMs}}

WCT was one of the people trying to discourage Chris from his plan to [[Taser Discussion|tase his magic stones to start the Dimensional Merge]]. He also expressed concern over Chris's mental health when Chris uploaded [[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.]], a video in which an upset Chris ranted about ''My Little Pony'', the background revealing several punched holes in the wall; WCT reached out to Chris to calm him down and asked Chris to talk things out instead of hurting himself. When asked by WCT what had happened to the wall, Chris claimed the damage had occurred in the past over trying to physically break the [[iron curtain]] between dimensions.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Upset at MLP G5]]</ref>

In [[April 2021]], Chris did tarot readings for both WCT and [[Naught]].<ref>[[Tarot Readings]]</ref>

===Chris and WCT's YouTube channel===
WCT had a YouTube channel, since deleted, in which he posted content such as self-made documentaries and interviews. Chris has tried to use WCT's channel as a means to promote his ideas.

In [[November 2020]], Chris watched some of The WCT's channel content, including his documentary on [[Randy Stair]]. On 6 November, Chris recorded an audio file, [[Chris channels Randy Stair]], in which he hoped to help Stair get a post-death message out to the world by [[role-play]]ing that he had been possessed by Stair. Chris gave the file to The WCT and gave his permission for it to be posted on The WCT's channel,<ref>[[WCT DMs#Post-death message for Stair]]</ref> although WCT declined to upload it.

On 28 [[July 2021]], Chris reached out to WCT and suggested he should record a livestream about ''[[My Little Pony]]'''s upcoming G5 reboot (a reboot Chris was extremely against). Chris also told WCT to "comment with the details I have shared so far, and what you, as well, have seen in your visions, and even heard from talking with the spirits and angels from the realms." Chris dubbed WCT as the "Messenger WildLeo," hoping that his video could help prevent G5 from launching. When WCT answered that he was considering making a video roasting the film after its release, Chris replied that it would be best not to wait until then, telling him the prevention of the movie was ideal for maintaining safety across the timeline. Chris did not elaborate on how exactly such a video would help in overturning Hasbro's decision to reboot ''My Little Pony''.<ref name=poniesrp></ref>

===Randy Stair delusions===
{{main|Randy Stair}}
WCT was a regular contributor to a wiki dedicated to the documentation of [[Randy Stair]], who infamously killed three people and then himself after losing his mind, having held his own obsession with Stair since at least [[July 2018]],<ref name="WCTWiki">[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 "The WCT" - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]</ref> according to a wiki page [[Ego|he made about himself]].<ref name=BrownHairedDragon>[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history History of an EGS Wiki page about The WCT shows only one contributor, 'BrownHairedDragon'] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210913153431/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history (archive)]</ref>

WCT produced a YouTube documentary on Stair. In [[November 2020]], Chris found the documentary after looking through a playlist on The WCT's channel and took an interest in Stair's story, particularly the aspects involving Stair's belief in [[Chris and reality|fictional characters existing in an alternate dimension]].<ref name=discussion>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref>

Chris recorded an audio file to "help [Stair] get a post-death message out," giving the file to WCT.<ref name=discussion></ref>

In conversations with WCT, Chris occasionally role-played that Randy Stair was a guardian figure and WCT briefly played along.

On 13 July 2021, WCT tried to help Chris avoid [[Jacob Sockness]] at the upcoming [[Everfree Northwest]] convention by asking him to record another version of [[Chris Releases A Statement Regarding Jacob Sockness]]. During their discussion, Chris [[Coping|coped]] with the issue of Sockness by role-playing that Randy Stair would be defeating Sockness with WCT's help:<ref name=EverfreeSecurity></ref>

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Ember just came to me with a message in regard to Sockness.

Randy and the Ghost Squad are working to break through the horde of demons around his apartment building.

In the present energy shift, there is a potential boost going to Sockness. But there is a counter, and it involves you, Sean.}}

To which WCT, seemingly confusing Sockness for [[Naught]], replied:

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=The WCT|With Andrew and Ember's help, I will defeat Bismuth for good. And to ensure that he doesn't hurt another innocent again.}}

===Everfree Northwest===

In [[July 2021]], [[Jacob Sockness]] declared that he had plans to attend [[Everfree Northwest]] in disguise to meet with Chris.<ref>{{Cite Reddit|subreddit=Kidasuna
|title= Going to Ever Free
|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]
|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free
|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}</ref> WCT alerted Chris to Sockness's statements.

On 13 July 2021, Chris brought up [[Bella]] to WCT, telling WCT she would be accompanying him to Everfree Northwest.<ref name=EverfreeSecurity></ref>

On 19 July 2021, Chris invited Bella, as well as [[Fiona]]; who was also set to meet Chris at the convention; into the [[Knights of CWC]],<ref>[[WCT DMs#Invitation]]</ref> a [[Watchmen]] splinter group headed by WCT and the group discussed plans to protect Chris from Sockness. Bella would claim that she would be a bodyguard for Chris.<ref name=bellaarrive></ref>

On the night of 19 July 2021, Bella invited WCT, Fiona, and Chris into her [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]] Discord server. WCT discussed his conflict with Naught, Kyle and MKR, and told Bella he had been "working with Former Kiwi Farmers to bring down the Watchmen" and asked Bella to assist him in doxing Naught, calling him an "evil man."<ref name=chess>[[Chess Group 15#Watchmen Treason]]</ref>

==The Incest Scandal==
On 2 July 2021, Chris had confessed with the WCT about having an affair with a woman "older than him," but did not reveal to him that his affair had occurred with his mother. On 27 July, Chris bragged to Bella that he was in the middle of an [[Affair with Mother|incestuous relationship with his mother]].<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref>

WCT had created the group chat, [[Regarding Chris]], where he and selected other Chris orbiters would question Bella on what was happening. Bella gave the files to Fiona and both would leak Chris's statements in the following days. Even after the leak, Chris was still willing to talk to Bella; it took both [[Null]] and WCT telling him he shouldn't to make Chris reconsider and cut ties with Bella.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Discussing the incest fallout]]</ref>

===Targeted by the Halal Server===
In August 2021, [[MKRNightVee]] and [[Naught]] joined the Halal Server. There, MKRNightVee in particular spread vicious rumors about The WCT, such as accusing him of plotting to have Chris killed.<ref name=halalserver>[https://www.onionfarms.com/attachments/halal-server-zip.10884/ Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms]</ref>

==Interview==

The WCT was interviewed over Discord about the Watchmen breakup on 11 July 2021. The WCT's messages are in blue and the interviewer's in green.

{{quoteboxgreen|Hi. Someone told me you’re The WCT. If it’s okay with you, I’d like to ask you some questions about the Watchmen breakup for the Cwcki.}}

{{quotebox|hi there.

and yes, by all means ask said questions.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|The initial conflict seems to be between you and Bismuth, that Bismuth doxed you. How did it grow to break up the Watchmen group?}}

{{quotebox|After I concluded that it was Bismuth that was responsible for the doxing, I made the choice to contact MKRNightVee (or Meghan some of you know her as) and I showed her a lot of screenshots in DMs that compared the typing style of his old Kiwi Farms accounts to one that he used to dox me. (which was Nightmare)

I recall telling her that I was 90 percent sure that it was him.

But in spite of the evidence that I had presented to her at the time, she didn't believe me. And during our VC on June 21st, She and Kyle were still not convinced.

They originally thought it was somebody who I angered in the past, but knowing what the Nightmare account was up to at the time, I knew that it was him.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How did Chris learn of the dispute?}}

{{quotebox|Not long after the VC, I decided that I would contact him myself.

So with the help of a Former Watchmen who had his phone number, I was able to get in contact with him on June 25th.

And there, I had an hour and 40 minute talk with him that first started off as any conversation I'd usually have with him until I was comfortable enough to tell him the details.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Did you show Chris the same evidence that you did to MKRNightVee?}}

{{quotebox|When I was talking with MKR, I didn't show her as much evidence at the time since the Investigation was still ongoing. And compared to what I shared with Chris, I shared less with MKR.

Not because I didn't trust her, but it was because there was not enough information available at the time. And what I ended up showing Chris was a combination of the Kiwi Farms posts and the VC that I had with the rest of the group.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How did Chris react to it?}}

{{quotebox|It took Chris a while to process it.

With each screenshot, he began to believe that my claims were true. And when we were both going over the VC, he noticed how Bismuth was getting really defensive and thought that he was clearly lying to me.

Especially when I told Bismuth that Josh (Null) claimed to me that him and Nightmare were the same person.
And that 3-4 seconds of silence on his part was something that helped convince Chris that I was in the right.

He also noticed how hostile Bismuth was getting towards me as well, especially when I kept on asking him if he doxed me or not. Chris saw that as a red flag.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Did Chris cut ties with Bismuth?}}

{{quotebox|From what I know, yes he did.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|What happened between Chris and MKRNightVee? MKR’s recent tweets indicate they’ve had a falling out. Is it related to the Watchmen breakup?}}

{{quotebox|yes it is.

Meghan was upset that Chris had sided with me in regards to what had happened.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How does Praetor fit in to this? MKRNightVee has said in a tweet that you’ve teamed up with them.}}

{{quotebox|Praetor had nothing to do with what happened.

Its just that when they got word from Chris that he had left the server, they followed. So it makes sense on MKR's part to accuse me of working with them because we all either got banned or left the place at the same time.

It was a strange coincidence yes, but there is zero contact between me and Caden.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|What server did Chris leave?}}

{{quotebox|The Watchmen's Place.

as some of you might've heard of on the CWCki. - https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Discord#The_Watchmen.27s_Place}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Why did he leave it?}}

{{quotebox|when he got word that I got banned from the server (by Kyle that is), he saw it as a green light to leave it himself.

So essentially he saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Are you still in contact with Chris?}}

{{quotebox|at this moment in time, I'm not.

We went our separate ways not long after the Watchmen had broken up and I believe that its for the best for both me and him.

And rather or not if he wants to be in touch with me still is completely up to him, but I won't be too surprised if he had already moved on at this point, and I respect whatever path he goes on moving forward.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Forgot to ask earlier, but what was your motivation for informing Chris of the conflict between you and Bismuth/MKR/Kyle?}}

{{quotebox|I was running out of options on what to do. When MKR and Kyle didn't believe my claims, I felt that I had no choice but to inform Chris on what had happened.

It was a very risky move on my part to do that, but I don't regret telling him.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|That’s all the questions I have. Thank you for answering. Is there anything else you would like to add?}}

{{quotebox|I just want to let people know that Chris is now a free man with nobody to dictate his actions. And for his sake, it needs to remain that way.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Thanks again. I'll look to getting this conversation to the CWCki. Do you want your username/avatar censored?}}

{{quotebox|yes}}

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==Conclusion==

With his last remaining hours of freedom, Chris chose to send his final known online message to WCT, informing him that the pets were being taken care of.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref> Within a few hours, Chris was [[Jail Saga#Arrest|taken into custody]], which WCT claimed to have "felt a sense of pain" watching.<ref name=wctmkrdms>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sean-walker-discord-leaks-merged-feat-mkrnightvee-ex-kiwis-the-fool-and-o-p-ii.100542/ Sean Walker Discord Leaks feat. MKRNightVee, ex-Kiwis @The Fool and @{o}P II. ''Kiwi Farms'']</ref>

On 13 [[September 2021]], The WCT was contacted by [[MKR]] on Discord for the first time since the fall of the Watchmen.<ref name=wctmkrdms></ref> Throughout the conversation, WCT lamented his situation, calling himself a failure for not recognizing [[WCT_DMs#Chris_describes_his_lady_friend|the signs of Chris and Barb's incestuous relationship]] as well as [[Fabricated BDSM texts|Bella's manipulation]], thoughts he admitted caused him to contemplate suicide. Nevertheless, he insisted that he had no regrets and claimed that everything was meant to be. He theorized and repeated multiple times throughout the conversation that the [[Kiwi Farms]] would be defunct within the next couple of years, no doubt wishful thinking on his part. WCT's hatred of [[Bismuth]] showed no signs of having subsided. At one point, he takes a page out of Chris's book and threatens to both [[Chris and the law|sue and call the police on]] the fellow former Watchman. Other proposed victims of his legal wrath included [[Null]] and a prominent [[CWCki]] admin, though The WCT recognized that these actions would likely be all for naught.

In [[Jail Letter - 18 January 2022]], Chris mentioned that he wished to get back in contact with Wildcat, presumably referring to one of The WCT's pseudonyms. Despite Chris's release from jail in 2024, no contact between WCT and Chris has been documented, and WCT's involvement in Chris's life appears to have concluded.

In [[November 2023]], it was revealed that The WCT had allied with multiple anti-[[Kiwi Farms]] individuals, such as Elaine Miller and more importantly {{w|Liz-Fong Jones}}, who has been attempting to get rid of Kiwi Farms for half a year<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sean-walker-psychic-espeon-wct.97689/</ref>. He contacted them under the pseudonyms "Kuruma" and "Clay," feeding them information about the site, and madly ranting about his hatred of [[Null]] and [[Naught]] (who he continued to hate after two years). Eventually, an entire news article was made dedicated to his actions under the "Clay" pseudonym<ref>https://ghostarchive.org/archive/6Al3k</ref>. He was cited as calling Kiwi Farms "hell on Earth" and having "launched a dogged campaign to keep the site offline." Liz Fong-Jones called WCT's involvement "a game changer," and said that he helped translate Kiwi Farms lingo. WCT was also supposedly 'schooled' by multiple professional in the field of technology, learning about computers. The article ended by stating that Liz-Fong Jones and one of their friends Lorelai were quitting the fight against Kiwi Farms, however the article states that WCT continues to fight against KF, and continues to recruit new members. It is unknown how this will turn out.

==See also==
*[[Helena-WCT DMs]]
*[[Kiwi Farms posts (The WCT)]]
*[[The Place chats - Randy Stair discussion]]
*[[WCT DMs]]

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HEXBox

2024-07-01T01:46:39Z

Emmeff: June 30 2024 Minecraft Livestream "No Hex on XBox"

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[[File:Hexboxguido01.png|thumb|left|[[Clyde Cash|Shit was SO cash!]]]]
[[File:481px-360tankx6.jpg|thumb|250px||A picture Chris uploaded to the [[CWCki]] [[Random-access humor|for some reason]]. It turned out to be an odd case of foreshadowing to his later obsession with ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]''.]]

'''HEXBox''' (also spelled ''HeXBox'', ''HEX-Box'', or ''Hex-Bawx'') is a [[CWC-ism]] for {{w|Microsoft|Microsoft}}'s {{w|Xbox}} series of game consoles, probably in reference to "{{w|hex}}" being a word for "[[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]]." There are currently four generations of Xbox game consoles, three of which [[Chris and hypocrisy|Chris has owned games for]] at one point.

Chris has stated that if his video game ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'' ever gets made, he wants it to become a multi-console title on everywhere but the HEXBox. With his later acquisition of an Xbox One, however, it remains to be seen whether he has relaxed his position on ''Adult Chronicles'' being released on the system.

By 2019, Chris lost interest in playing the Xbox and [[PlayStation 4]] consoles. He did, however, return to playing Xbox (or at least logged into his Live account) on 1 September 2023, after his release from jail.

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==Early days==
[[File:ACDoc Xbox PS Stink.jpg|thumb|300px|Transcription as it appears in the second [[Geno Samuel]] video.]]Some early signs of hate can be seen in the [[Animal Crossing Documentary]], in which he makes the following remark:

{{quote|Xbox and PlayStation 2, my opinion is the same as yours; they both stink.|Chris, presuming his [[Fans|audience]] shares his perverted sense of [[brand loyalty]]}}

He then makes another remark, stating the fact that he didn't own either console. Notably, Chris's vitriol also extended to [[Playstation]], since he was still purely a [[Nintendo]] fanboy at the time.

Chris tried to sell the Xbox games [[Wikipedia:Call of Duty 2: Big Red One|''Call of Duty 2: Big Red One'']], ''[[Wikipedia:The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay|The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay]]'', [[Wikipedia:Driv3r|''Driv3r'']] and ''[[Wikipedia:Celebrity Deathmatch (video game)|Celebrity Deathmatch]]'' on [[eBay]], which makes it possible that Chris once owned an original Xbox, though he has been known to [[Chris_and_money#Wheeling_and_Dealing|buy games at thrift stores and sell them for a profit]].

==The hatred==
[[Image:TROPHY.JPG|center|400px|Enjoy the hi-res MSPaint graphics.]]

In the [[IRC (02 January 2009)|2 January 2009 IRC chat]], Chris expands upon his HEXBox hatred:

<div style="border:1px dotted #4682B4;padding:5px; background-color:#F0F8FF">
 12:18 <vivitheg> Why, the Xbox 360 has a lot of games that are on the [[PS3]] too
 12:18 <ChrisChanSonichu> because [[Wikipedia:Xbox Live|the Live]] is costly.
 12:18 <vivitheg> It's only [[Chris and money|50 dollars]] a year
 12:19 <vivitheg> that's very cheap compared to the ps3
 12:19 <ChrisChanSonichu> and I'm already a subscriber between PS3 and [[Wii]], which are FREE.
 12:19 <ChrisChanSonichu> PSN is Free; [[Nintendo]] Wi-Fi is Free.
 12:19 <ChrisChanSonichu> [[Random-access humor|Skadoosh]].
</div>

While [[Chris humps his PS3|making sweet love to his one and only sweetheart]], Chris tried to tell us how he ''really'' feels about the HEXBox:

: ''"I love PlayStation! I love PlayStation! Kill the Xbox! New reason why they call it the motherfucking 360, you look at it makes you turn around—makes you do a 360° and walk away. Very appropriately called is a damn 120°, 130° whatever, [[Honor roll|whatever the half of 360° is]]. Damn damn damn damn damn! damn damn damn damn damn! [...] I love PlayStation. Sony reigns, Sony will reign in the console wars. No matter who argues. Fuck the 350–360 fanatics. Fuck them all to hell. Shot to hell. Damn them all. What the fuck. They're all motherfucking idiots. What the fuck. Damn damn damn damn."''

He was asked about this in his [[Mailbag]], and he answered pretty much the same as all of the other responses.

{{quote|I never cared for the HEXBox, and frankly it LACKS heavily in comparison to the [[Wii]] and [[PS3]], PLUS YOU HAVE TO PAY THEIR FEES TO EVEN GO ONLINE OR DOWNLOAD DEMOS WITH IT. The Wii and Playstation Networks are FREE, ONLY costing you if you BUY the Downloadable Games. When Microsoft FINALLY get that costly detail LONG-GONE, I MAY reconsider. But in the meantime, I rest my case.|Chris, [[Mailbag 5#Chris hates the HEXBox|being completely irrational]].|Chris<ref>[[Mailbag 5]]</ref>}}

Actually, [[wikipedia:Xbox Live|Xbox Live]] has two kinds of accounts. "Free" accounts (formerly "Silver") can access a large part of of Xbox Live features, such as friend lists, messaging, achievements and the content marketplace. "Gold" accounts, currently priced around $60/year, can play multiplayer games, use certain premium features such as Netflix (before June 4, 2014, after which it was available for free accounts) and get weekly discounts in addition to ''early'' access to certain downloadable games and demos (free accounts eventually get access to this content as well).

Considering $60 is around the price of a single game, while factoring in Chris' [[monthly tugboat|monthly allowance]] and his habit of purchasing video games and paraphernalia on a whim while accruing thousands of dollars in debt, the price would hardly be a problem for him. It is safe to say Chris' opposition to Xbox Live stems purely from his console-war mindset.

While [[wikipedia:PlayStation Network|PlayStation Network]] still lets users play multiplayer games for free, a premium version called PlayStation Plus was introduced in June 2010.<ref>http://www.destructoid.com/psn-plans-premium-subscriptions-online-play-remains-free-155553.phtml</ref> In order to prove how strongly he despises HEXbox Live Gold, Chris was spotted in April 2011 [[PS3#PlayStation Plus|using the Plus services]]. However, the PlayStation 4, the console Chris shelled out money for, requires mandatory PlayStation Plus to play online, which is at least $60 for 12 months. Despite being the same price as Xbox Live, Xbox Live hasn't had as many online shutdowns as PlayStation Plus and has better security.

==In the comics==
[[Image:Jason's_Hexbox.jpg|thumb|left|[[Jason Kendrick Howell|Jason]] controlling his evil empire from the luxurious comfort of his HEXBox.]][[Image:DBNT2G_police.jpg|thumb|''Don't Be Nervous Talking 2 Girls'', an indie release that, according to [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris thinks is the only worthwhile game on the platform. Feel free to draw all the conclusions from this that you logically can.]]
[[Image:KillThatHexBawx.jpg|thumb|left|KILL THE BEAST! CUT HIS THROAT! SPILL HIS BLOOD!]]

The HEXBox 360 is featured during the [[Sonichu_8#The_Elevator_Gags|''elevator gag'']] portion of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]. [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] are greeted by a depiction of an axe cutting through the console as they travel past the 70th floor of the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] building. The 71st floor displays a PlayStation Trophy award for "killing that HEX-BOX."

Christian took care to draw a "[[Wikipedia:Xbox 360 technical problems|Damn Red Ring]]"<ref>[[IRC (23 July 2009)]]</ref> around the HEXBox's power button.

In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] is shown surveying his evil realm using an Xbox 360 and a pirated copy of ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]''. Later, Chris portrays [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]] as the owner of an Xbox 360, though as an actual computer hard drive. Chris, as [[Collosal Chan]], enters it, deletes everything about the [[Asperpedia]], then destroys the Xbox.

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], a "Fully Found Myself" Xbox trophy is depicted for [[Reldnahc]] whereas comic Chris's achievement is depicted with a PS4 trophy<ref>[[:File:SchuComic12-1P42.jpg]]</ref>.

Chris also has no idea what a real Xbox 360 is supposed to look like. Most notably, he thinks the console is smaller than a Wii, and with the power button on the top end of the console rather than the bottom end (incidentally, Wii also has power button on top and eject button on bottom, exactly the opposite of Xbox 360). He also appears to think that an Xbox 360 has four unprotected USB sockets directly under the disc tray (like those in the [[PS3]]), as his portrayal of [[Alec]]'s console shows; a real 360 console has two memory card slots at that location, and the USB sockets are located next to the power button, under a door. However, the new model 360s don't have memory card slots, but do have two USB slots behind a door near the power button.

Microsoft itself is not addressed in the comics either directly or via pseudonym.

==Change of heart?==
In [[XBox is OK.MOV|a video]] uploaded in [[September 2010]], Chris backpedals on this blatant fanboyism and decides that the Xbox 360 has merits after all. More light was shed with the leaking of an email to [[Jackie]]:

{{quote|About the XBox thing, I've realized after a revelation that I did not really hate the console originally. As a matter of fact, I've played a store demo kiosk of the 360 twice ever. I felt the anger against it originally, because of how much it cost way back when it was the Original XBox (before the 360), and that I could not afford either one. I felt more of jealousy of everyone else who was able to afford the High Prices of the consoles, and the XBox Live stuff as well. And throughout the time, after learning of the flaws it had, such as the "Red Ring of Death", being supportive of the lost format of HD-DVD (vs. Blu-Ray), and others, I used them as my excuses, which in arguments left me with no leg to stand on. So, I withdraw my past angst against the console. I'm still not going to buy one right away, though. I'll try it more, I mean, if I somehow got hold of a 360 inexpensively or free, or if I tried a Non-Demo console at someone else's place.|Chris<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref>}}

==Nope, he still hates it==
On the weekend of 7 [[September 2013]], Chris was [[banned]] from the [[Ruckersville]] [[Mal-Wart|Walmart]] after he vandalized an Xbox One kiosk with a felt-tip marker to read "HEXbox One". Not only does this contradict his so-called "change of heart" for the console, but also adds to his ever growing [[List of Chris's lies|list of lies]], as well. He tried writing the manager an apology letter to get his ban lifted, [[Chris and negotiation|to no avail.]]

On his [[Facebook]] page, Chris posted that the last name of the manager was Utz. He also went as far as to '''actually post this on Human Rights Campaign's page''' and claimed he has been discriminated against for being [[Autism|"autistic"]] and a [[Homos|"lesbian"]]--even though it's pretty clear that [[Chris and reality|the moral of this story is to not vandalize shit]]. He asked the community to demand Walmart to unban him, even posting its address and phone number under the pretense people would actually follow through with his orders, and liked his own post. He did at least admit that what he did was wrong, so maybe there's some silver lining.

Chris posted this on 4 [[September 2014]] at around 7:30 PM.

<center><gallery>
Image:Chris Chan on Ms. Utz.JPG|We knew it!
</gallery></center>

On 25 [[June 2015]], Facebook group Legit Lady Gamers posted a picture of a pink Xbox One. Predictably, Chris replied that he liked pink PS4s better.

==He likes it for real now==
{{see also|List of Chris's video games#Microsoft}}
[[File:X-box avatar.png |thumb|150px|Chris's Xbox avatar]]

In [[November 2017]], Chris revealed his gamertag, CWCSonichu1982.<ref>[[November_2017_Facebook_posts#Gamindustri.27s_enemies_attack_CWCville]]</ref> He has a Gold membership, along with several Sonic games.<ref name=tag>https://www.xboxgamertag.com/search/CWCSonichu1982/</ref> Based on his gaming list including ''Rare Replay'', he purchased an Xbox One instead of a 360, since ''Rare Replay'' is a One exclusive. As of now, it is unknown if he purchased an Xbox One X, an Xbox One S, or just a regular Xbox One. An XBox One runs approximately $350-400 and the Xbox Live Gold is from $9.99-59.99.

His Gamerscore is '''5,210''', with '''44''' games played, and '''1''' game completed.

By [[2019]], Chris had ceased regularly playing the Xbox - his Gamertag account shows that the last game played was in 2019.<ref name=tag></ref> In [[August 2020]], a fan asked about his gaming activity, to which Chris answered that the "amount of stuff" in the room was a problem for setting up his consoles and that he was more focused on the [[Dimensional Merge]] instead.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 2#Gaming]]</ref>

On 1 [[September 2023]], following the [[Jail Saga]], Chris was spotted online on the XBox.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/167id3t/chris_just_signed_back_into_hexbox_for_the_first/ ([https://archive.ph/J5a4Y archive])</ref>

On 30 [[June 2024]], Chris reveals in a [[Minecraft]] live stream to have written "No Hex on XBox" on a sign in his Realm.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: OG Cwcville (Cwcville)-60 Minecraft]]</ref>

==Sources==
<references />

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DojyqeVCD6U A typical HEXBox game]
*[https://www.xboxgamertag.com/search/CWCSonichu1982/ Chris's Xbox gamertag profile]

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[[Category:Video Games]]
[[Category:Things Chris once hated but now likes]]

Help:A Guide to Piping

2024-07-01T01:40:51Z

Emmeff: "The Suitress" page doesn't exist, fixed to Fiona

[[Image:Scrollover.jpg|thumb|284px|right|Scrolling over a pipe reveals the link as alt text.]]

Piping is the practice of linking to a page using text that is different from the page title. This is done for many reasons, but it is often done to create an "Easter egg" effect in the text. After reading this guide, you will hopefully have a better understanding of how to pipe constructively, which will help to enrich CWCki as a whole.

==How to pipe==
Piping is pretty straightforward: it's like a normal link, but separate the link from the base text with a "|" symbol, which is called a pipe (hence the name).

: '''Example:''' <nowiki>[[Chris and anger|Tard rage]]</nowiki> → [[Chris and anger|Tard rage]]

As shown the example above, the link is on the left side of the pipe, while the base text is on the right side. Don't switch this up, or the result will probably look really stupid.

==When to pipe==
There are three main categories of piping: ''relevant'' piping, ''ironic'' piping, and ''lulzy'' piping. Each type of piping has its place on CWCki, but some care must be taken for each type. Note that these categories are not mutually exclusive; in fact effective piping will usually fall into two or more categories.

'''Relevant piping''' is usually done to add a link where using simple linking syntax would render the sentence awkward, or when placing links in a quote, where you can't change the language, or to add a reference to the topic at hand. From a functional standpoint, this is the least troublesome type of piping, as it serves the same function a a regular link. However, this is also the type of piping most likely to be done improperly (see '''When not to pipe''' below).

: '''Example:''' <nowiki>[[List of Chris's eBay sales|eBay sales]]</nowiki>
: '''Another example:''' <nowiki>[[Chris-chan Sonichu|Mary Sue renditions]]</nowiki>

'''Ironic piping''' is usually used in quotes in order to juxtapose the words of the speaker (in this case, usually Chris) with said speaker's actions. This highlights Chris's [[Chris and hypocrisy|rank hypocrisy]].

: '''Example:''' <nowiki>[[Death threats|I do not wish death]]</nowiki>

'''Lulzy piping''' is done as a joke. This is the most troublesome type of piping and this is done sparingly, as people can easily overestimate their own humor, and this sort of piping tends to be the least relevant by its nature. If a pipe gets reverted, it is usually a lulzy pipe that generated insufficient lulz. So make sure it's good before you pipe. Moreover, don't go out of your way to pipe in this style, as this is [[CWCki:NOTED#CWCki_is_not_ED|not what CWCki is about]]. (Besides, the more forced it is, the more likely it will suck.)

: '''Example:''' <nowiki>[[Chris Sex Videos|terrible fortune]]</nowiki>

Of these three qualities, relevance takes precedence: make sure to pipe the most relevant article possible.

: '''WRONG:''' <nowiki>[[Virginia is for virgins|lack of female companionship]]</nowiki>
: '''RIGHT:''' <nowiki>[[Love Quest|lack of female companionship]]</nowiki>

==When not to pipe==
Piping is not required when linking a singular word with a plural base (or vice versa), as a regular link will most likely go to a redirect page (and you can always add a redirect page if it doesn't). Another way to avoid unnecessary piping is to link only the relevant part of the word or phrase; the link will automatically extend to the end of the word.

: '''WRONG:''' <nowiki>[[Gal-pal|Galpals]]</nowiki>
: '''RIGHT:''' <nowiki>[[Gal-pals]]</nowiki>
: '''ALSO RIGHT:''' <nowiki>[[Gal-pal]]s</nowiki>

==Piping to Wikipedia==
Piping is also used to link to Wikipedia; this is done by adding "Wikipedia:" followed by the name of the article being linked to.

:'''Example:''' <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Top Gun (film)|Top Gun]]</nowiki>

Piping to Wikipedia should be done sparingly, usually to reference something important without a CWCki page or to help define a technical term that the average reader is not likely to understand.

==Piping Hard-to-Pipe Pages==
Some pages you may not pipe properly at first. To fix this, prefix the the page name with a colon (:).
: '''WRONG:''' <nowiki>Megan was [[Image:20080312-Meg-SawPorn.PNG|not happy]] when she saw "SheCameForCWC.jpg"</nowiki>
*Megan was [[Image:20080312-Meg-SawPorn.PNG|300px|not happy]] when she saw "SheCameForCWC.jpg"

: '''RIGHT:''' <nowiki>Megan was [[:Image:20080312-Meg-SawPorn.PNG|not happy]] when she saw "SheCameForCWC.jpg"</nowiki>
*Megan was [[:Image:20080312-Meg-SawPorn.PNG|not happy]] when she saw "SheCameForCWC.jpg"

==Try to be as specific as possible.==
Remember, you can pipe to sections as well as whole articles; all you need to do is join the section to the article name with a number sign (#).

: '''Example:''' <nowiki>[[Homos#Defenses against becoming homo|STAY STRAIGHT]]</nowiki>

This is especially important with articles with several largely independent sections, like [[Mailbag]]s; don't make people hunt for what you're referring to.

==Try not to pipe to disambiguation pages==
: '''WRONG:''' <nowiki>[[Sonichu]]</nowiki>
: '''WRONG:''' <nowiki>[[Crystal]]</nowiki>

==Avoid piping to "Lie" if at all possible.==
"[[Lie]]", without a doubt, is the most over-piped link on CWCki. Piping to "Lie" is lazy and can usually be improved by piping to something more specific (see above); do it only when nothing else works.

: '''WRONG:''' <nowiki>[[Lie|I am NOT "sexist"]]</nowiki>
: '''RIGHT:''' <nowiki>[[Women's rights|I am NOT "sexist"]]</nowiki>

Another seriously overdone pipe is linking to "[[troll]]" every time the word "fan" comes up. Just don't do it. After all, Chris ''does'' [[Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt|have]] [[Jacob Sockness|legit]] [[Fiona|fans]].

==Don't overdo it.==
Piping can add unnecessary clutter when taken to the extremes. Try to pipe as small a phrase as you feel comfortable with, and not everything needs to be piped (especially if it has been piped earlier on). If a section is completely blue-shifted (or almost so), you've probably taken it too far. Piping parts of a word to different pages is just plain faggotry.

: '''RIGHT:''' <nowiki>Suffice to say, this was one of Chris's [[CWC's Second Message|first over-reactions to trolls]] and the first step to becoming a LOLcow. </nowiki>
: '''WRONG:''' <nowiki>Suffice to say, [[CWC's Second Message|this was one of Chris's first over-reactions to trolls]] and the first step to becoming a LOLcow. </nowiki>
: '''ALSO WRONG:''' <nowiki>Suffice to say, this was one of Chris's [[CWC's Second Message|first over-reactions to]] [[trolls]] and [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|the first step]] to [[Chris Loses It|becoming a LOLcow]]. </nowiki>
: '''VERY WRONG:''' <nowiki>[[CWC's Second Message|Suffice to say, this was one of Chris's first over-reactions to trolls and the first step to becoming a LOLcow]]. </nowiki>
: '''LOLWUT:''' <nowiki>Suffice to say, this was one of Chris's first [[CWC's Second Message|over-]][[Chris and anger|reac]][[Stress|tions]] to trolls and the first step to becoming a LOLcow.</nowiki>

==Conclusion==
So now you should be able to pipe like a pro. Now go forth and [[sonichu 0|edit to the extreme!]]

[[Category:CWCki policy]]

Praetor

2023-11-12T13:34:37Z

Emmeff: Lore bible discussion didn't happen in 2023. The citation for this records it to have happened October 3rd, 2020. https://sonichu.com/cwcki/User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion

{{Unreliable|type=cred|The members are all infamous attention seekers, and merely got in touch with Chris with the sole intent of piggybacking off his notoriety on the internet.|The members will occasionally say edgy and disgusting things purely for shock value.<ref>[[:File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg]]</ref>}}

[[File:PraetorLogo.jpg|400px|thumb|Praetor's logo]]
[[File:CadenP.png|300px|thumb|Caden Peck, leader of Praetor]]

'''Praetor LLC''' (sometimes referred to as "'''The Praetors'''") is a group of edgy college-aged businesspeople led by '''Caden Peck''' (born September 27, 2002), also known as '''tinyhorse01'''. They have claimed to exist for 3 years before coming in contact with Chris, working with creative types, supposedly including working in order to officiate the {{w|Republic of Molossia}} as an offical nation. However, the truth of this is unknown, and the business is known to be incredibly unprofessional.

They came in contact with Chris to produce and sell ''Sonichu'' and CWC themed products on their [[Etsy]] store [[OfficialCWCmart]], with Chris's permission, giving him a cut of the profits in exchange. In mid-December 2020, Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. As of [[2023]], they have made around than $150,000 out of OfficialCWCmart.

Praetor since expanded to other products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's income split for products made by him is unknown.

During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, mailing them art from jail, which they added to [[OfficialCWCmart]]. They began coming up with plans to help with, one of which included brainstorming a $150,000 fundraiser to buy out [[Barb]] from [[14 Branchland Court]]. Upon Chris getting released, they have become even more involved, seen in the highly edited new videos and new photos of Chris added to [[OfficialCWCmart]].

==Minor members==
[[File:PraetorLLC.jpg|300px|thumb|From left to right, Owen Sundstrom, Annie Ikenberry, Cabell (most likely), Caden Peck, and Christine Chandler. Not pictured is [[Isabella Loretta Janke]], who could be considered a member of the group.]]
{{Quote|In the group, Annie is very much psychically able. Owen is like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs. Cabell is also psychically inclined, but she's the artist. Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.|Chris<ref name=naughtdms>[[Naught DMs#Praetor]]</ref>}}

Whilst Caden leads the group, and presumably does most of the heavy lifting, there are numerous other members in the group.

===Annibelle Ikenberry===
'''Annibelle "Annie" Ikenberry''' ('''annirenee''') is an erocosplayer and OnlyFans camgirl. According to Chris, she is "psychically able". In a 17 [[February 2021]] discussion with the [[Watchmen]], Chris confessed that he had considered her for a possible relationship.<ref>[[Lonely feelings]]</ref>

===Owen Sundstrom===
'''Owen Scott Sundstrom''' ('''owen_sundstrom''') is a co-founder of Praetor, according to [[Larry Vaughn]]. He was present at the [[Goochland Library Sermon]], where he was photographed posing with Chris. He also appears to be the photographer who took the picture of Chris and Praetor at the Chinese restaurant. According to Chris, Owen is "like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs". Owen, along with Caden, suggested a link between the Mayan calendar and Chris's [[The Place chats - Lore Mashup|dream about a golden disc]].<ref name=naughtdms></ref>

===Cabell===
'''Cabell''', according to Chris is 'psychically inclined, but she's the artist'. Unlike the other members of Praetor, the least is known about her. There has been speculation that Cabell was a nickname for [[Bella]], however at the time of Chris mentioning Cabell he had not met Bella. Cabell is most likely the blonde woman featured in the picture of Praetor at a Chinese resturant. Initially, Praetor mistagged the blonde woman on [[Instagram]], linking a completely seperate account to her.

Given that Chris has referred to Cabell as the artist, it can be assumed that she creates the medallions, as Chris has mentioned that the artist of the group was the one to create them.

===Isabella Loretta Janke===
{{main|Isabella Loretta Janke}}

'''Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke''', a troll most infamous for her horrid actions and [[Incest Call|revealing Chris's sex with mother]], had relations with Praetor. They commissioned her to animate [[Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation]], an animation of Chris and the Sonichu characters, which Chris uploaded to his YouTube channel.

==The Beginning==
[[File:OGGoldenMedallion.jpg|300px|thumb|The golden medallion Praetor gave to Chris]]
[[File:Praetor3.jpg|300px|thumb|Chris in a meeting with Caden]]
{{quote|I've always known about Christine. She always struck me as unique in the sense that she is probably one of the most famous people ever who has profitted the least from her fame.
When I heard that she had tried to launch a store before, but been overwhelmed, I knew that there was a chance at profit. I run almost everything I do privately, so I reached out to Christine myself.|Caden<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Praetor_Arrives,_Chris_Writes_his_Sermon,_More_Bible Discussion|Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref>}}

On 21 [[September 2020]], a "trio of fans" came to Chris's door with a golden [[Medallion|Sonichu medallion,]] crafted by "the young lady of the group, with paint that had a mixture of 24K gold in it". The "tall boys" had a business proposition for Chris, that with their mold press, they could mass produce and sell Sonichu medallions.<ref name=placeassociates>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)|The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)]]</ref> Chris accepted, deeming them as trustworthy, and noted that he had a vision earlier where an artist crafted medallions for him.

{{quote|They have their business based in Goochland.

And I could tell by soul-reading them that their intentions were legit, honest and true.|Chris<ref name=placeassociates></ref>}}

On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates".<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.

On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC.

{{quote|Our new peeps are good and genuine; they’re setting up the new Etsy shop as well, and making the first wave of medallions molded from the one they made for me that was 24K gold-mix painted.
Although, Confidentially, while they do have their business connections, they do not yet have a website; I did a Google search for their name of “Praetor LLC”. But everything remains valid, and they do check in with me and talk, plus soul-sense from the lot of them.|Chris<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>}}

On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible".<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>

On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, run by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Praetor_Arrives,_Chris_Writes_his_Sermon,_More_Bible Discussion|Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref>

{{collapsible|Chat Excerpts|{{quoteboxnavy|We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|It costs about 3 dollars per medallion. We sell them for 25 apiece, as to match our competitors. Etsy brand imposters are selling Medallions for 25-30. To uproot them, we must match or go below their prices.

If business is good, we'll increase sales by discounting them, selling them for 15-20}}
{{quoteboxnavy|In order to emulate Sonichu's original medallion, they are stamped in a mold we made and baked. Then, painted. We mail them from our own company pocket for a while, as it is cheaper then registration with a mailing company. When we get big enough, we can afford to register and get discounted shipping services}}
{{quoteboxnavy|We've not shipped any yet, so we only have estimates. It won't be more then a few dollars.
The medallions are not large not heavy.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|We signed a confidentiality agreement with Sonichu, as we are a company. If Sonichu gives her consent, I can disclose profit splits and profit estimates.}}
{{quoteboxnavy| We've worked with creative types for about 3 years now. You may recognize a few of my more eccentric clients!
Have any of you ever heard of Molossia?}}

After being asked if they sold merch for Molossia:

{{quoteboxnavy|We don't only do merch. We helped him find someone to write a dissertation on the micronation's sovereignty.

He's using that to try and officiate his territory as a nation.

More power to him, I suppose.

What do y'all do? I'm excited to be working with this team.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|I used to have a website, but due to domain costs I took it down. When it comes to clients, I find that it's easier to find eccentric people then to have them find you. If you're interested in partnership or a meeting, I've been transitioning us to social media. We have a new twitter and an Instagram.
Our email is llcpraetor@gmail.com.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|@praetor_llc and the Twitter is @praetor
With social media, I can find my own clientele. Considering that I'm here, seems like things are working out!}}

On another brand named 'Praetor LLC':

{{quoteboxnavy|Oh no, we know about Praetor LLC. They're actually not trademarked, we've talked to them. Their site is a homedone project. The only internationally trademarked Praetor brand is Praetor Technologies.}}
}}

On 16 October, they arranged for Chris to give [[Goochland Library Sermon|a sermon at Goochland library]], where he spewed his [[Dimensional Merge]] delusions. This spiel was done in front of a large screen displaying the Praetor logo. When it was eventually released on YouTube, it started with a loud dramatic opening, commissioned from an unknown source. They also added sarcastic captions, mocking Chris. The Praetor members took photos with Chris after the sermon.

<center><gallery>
File:Tinyhorse02.png|With Caden.
File:Praetor4.jpg|With Owen.
File:Praetor5.jpg|Arguably one of the most iconic images of Chris out there, appearing on news articles and on his Wikitubia page</gallery></center>

On 19 October, Praetor's presence was made known to the public, when they released multiple photos of Chris and the members of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. One of these images included the members' Instagram handles, making it very easy for them to get doxxed.

<center><gallery>
File:PraetorLLC.jpg|
File:Praetor Instagram tags copy-min.png|With [[Instagram]] handles
</gallery></center>

On 13 [[November 2020]], Chris uploaded [[Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation]], an animation that Praetor had commissioned from [[Isabella Loretta Janke]].

==Etsy Shop==
{{see also|OfficialCWCmart}}
{{quote|(Editor's Note: All descriptions, titles, and product designs come directly from Chris Chan. These are hand done, and will therefore reflect the "Chris Chan Style." Expect defects, burns, and a general lapse in quality.)|Praetor's Etsy account, confirming that the products being shipped will be dogshit, even by Chris's standards}}
[[File:Sonichu medallion etsy dec 2020.jpg|300px|thumb|Praetor somehow manages to make the medallion look ''worse'']]

Praetor created an Etsy shop for Chris, [[OfficialCWCmart]], where they sell Sonichu medallions and other merchandise. As of 2023, it has accumulated more than 2500 sales. The medallions sold by them manage to look much worse than any medallions made by Chris, and are completely inconsistent in how they look.

[[File:GoldenChurchmedallion2.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Chris with a Golden Medallion]]

In mid-December 2020, Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. A month later, they had made $5,900 worth of sales on their medallion product,<ref>[[The Place chats (January 2021)#The Watchmen Think Chris Should Get All of Praetor's Sales Money]]</ref> though information such as their operating costs is unknown, as is how much profit the group members had after expenses. In mid-January 2021, Chris confirmed having received nearly $400 in small cash amounts for his share.<ref>[[The Place chats (January 2021)#Cash from Praetor]]</ref>

[[File:RedRobe.jpg|300px|thumb|Golden Church of Sonichu Cult Robe, sold an year after the server died out]]

Praetor also created a [[Discord]] server, [[Golden Church of Sonichu]], which was created for anyone who bought their Golden Medallions on their Etsy shop. The server served as another outlet for Chris to rant about his delusions. Praetor often posted in there too, giving insight into their bizarre plans.

{{quote|-Christine has fully greenlit [REDACTED]'s video game. Please message Chris directly as soon as possible, as Christine would like to provide some direction with the game's storyline.

-The Praetor Flamethrower will be stress-tested this upcoming week at a local firing range sponsoring us. Please standby for future details.

-Christine has approved the future sale of Potions blessed by her. These are to be sold for less than $17 apiece, but a fixed price has not yet been decided. We need help finding cheaply shipped glassware in bulk. As cheap as possible is best, as we are going to be selling 3-4 kinds of potions stocked at at least 12 each. Bottles must be at very least 4oz, at most 16oz.

-Christine's Golden Medallions have already sold out. Expect more members soon.

-Test footage for @Deleted User has been filmed in order to see if she can cgi a Sonichu next to Chris, allowing us to feature a Sonichu in the upcoming Chris Chan Movie. Please complete this as soon as possible, and we will kiss you on the mouth.|Praetor<ref>[[Golden Church of Sonichu]]</ref>}}

Upon hacking into [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]'s account, [[Chris Kisses Rosechu|a short clip]] showing the behind the scenes process of the Chris Chan Movie was leaked. It shows Chris posing as a Praetor member commentates, telling him specific poses to do, while he's supposedly standing next to [[Rosechu]], who would be added in post as a CGI character.

==Taser Controversy==
{{see also|Taser}}
[[File:PraetorSignedTaser.png|300px|thumb|The Taser]]

{{quote|we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea.|Caden, one of Praetor's members, trying to talk Chris out of tazing himself.<ref name=tasercall>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

On 15 [[November 2020]], Praetor posted a screenshot of an online shopping service's shopping cart - in the cart was a Pikachu mask and a VIPERTEK VTS-989 560 BV stun gun. Praetor stated:

{{quote|As Praetor, we always work hard to produce the best videos we can. Good works are in progress!|Praetor on an Instagram post featuring a Pikachu mask and stun gun.<ref>https://www.instagram.com/p/CHms9kGlhc3/ (archive: https://archive.ph/K6ojQ)</ref>}}

Praetor later claimed this was for promotion of sales of autographed tasers.

[[File:praetor cart.jpg|thumb|left|What do they plan to do with [[Captain's Log|that taser]]?]]

In [[February 2021]], Chris stated that he wanted to borrow one of Praetor's tasers to stun his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]] in an attempt to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref name=thinking>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser‎]]</ref>

The Watchmen confronted Caden Peck about this, saying that it was dangerous for Praetor to be allowing Chris to use it and that Chris could hurt himself. In response, Caden insisted that Chris would be safe and that the group would act with safety in mind, that he would not permanently possess one of their tasers, and that the version Chris would use is a lower-powered one than the items Praetor would be selling.<ref name=thinking></ref> Eventually, both parties began insulting each other on Discord. They eventually agreed to have [[Taser Discussion|a call]] about the issue, in which the Watchmen berate Caden about the issue.

Near the end of the call, [[Watchmen]] member [[Val]] jokingly asked if Praetor could get Chris to tase himself on video, to which Chris responded saying that he'd be willing too. Everyone is shocked by this, and Caden attempts to dissuade Chris from tazing himself.

[[File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg|thumb|300px|A message left for a customer who bought a taser]]

[[Watchmen]] member [[Naught]] then released that portion of the audio clip, but twisted the context to make it seem like Praetor wanted Chris to tase himself. This rumor was perpetuated by other Watchmen members, and eventually reached [[GiBi]], who made a video claiming it was fact.

Naught then doxxed Caden on the forum, to which the troll [[Larry Vaughn]], responded to by saying:

{{quote|Still hard to believe that this guy legit thought that I was the representative of a group of rich folks that would buy shitty medallions so we could roleplay with Chris in a private Discord server.|Larry Vaughn<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Info Dump]]</ref>}}

After Naught enquired about this, he responded by making a long post about Chris and Praetor:

{{collapsible|Larry Vaughn's Post|{{quote|So my initial contact with them was when Christine sent me Caden's phone number and asked me to call him. I initially thought that he was going to tell me to fuck off, but he at the time at least entertained the idea of bringing 'us' (LAnon) on board. He pitched the idea of 'golden sonichu medallions' to me, which were basically regular Sonichu medallions with a code or something on them that would grant people access to a discord group to talk with Chris directly. He said that Christine "was a very busy woman with everything going on, and that Praetor basically served to screen out trolls from legitimate business dealings so she could have time to focus on her tasks." I said that I would entertain their offer, and I would just need to take a headcount of who would be interested in one.

[...]

-Praetor was the brainchild of Caden, and was initially just like the Teen Troon Squad before they had the idea to make a cult around Christine, and eventually even this devolved into them basically becoming a slightly less shitty version of the idea guys 2.0

-They work in a nasty basement painting Sonichu medallions to sell. Now people seem to think that they just give Chris the money. They don't, they basically hold it from him unless he does what they want

-The amount of money they make is apparently enough that Christine could have hired a private investigator to come after me, and this person contacted me after Chris threatened to call the cops on me

-My 'big plan' (Sending Chris to Florida) was apparently liked by Caden, to the point that he would pay for a ticket for Chris

-Chris claimed that Null was on Praetor's side, and was working with them to hunt me down (whether this is real or a delusion of Chris' is yet to be determined)|Larry Vaughn<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Info Dump]]</ref>}}
}}

While many were skeptical of Vaughn's claims, due to him arguably being an unreliable narrator, his [[Larry Vaughn DMs|DMs with Chris]] reveal that he did in fact have a phone call with Caden, meaning his post is most likely true<ref>[[Larry Vaughn DMs#Coded Message for Twitter Users]]</ref>.

In [[2022]], Praetor began selling tasers previously autographed by Chris on their Etsy shop, supposedly for the purpose of simulating "zapping to the extreme" for buyers. Etsy quickly removed this listing. Eventually, Praetor created a listing titled 'The Secret Listing', a listing that had no information on what it was. It was later revealed through [[March 2023 Praetor Interview|emails]] that The Secret Listing was a taser, with the fact hidden in order to bypass Etsy guidelines.

One of the people who bought the taser would mail it to the channel SuperMega, where they would unbox it on video<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW5OaHIfMdY&ab_channel=SuperMega</ref>.

==Jail Saga==
[[File:JailArt9.jpg|200px|thumb|A piece of Jail Art from Chris, dated as [[November 2021]]]]
{{see also|Praetor Jail Art|OfficialCWCmart#Jail Saga Items}}

Caden had plans to assemble a posse to protect Chris from [[Jacob Sockness]] at [[Everfree Northwest]]<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sockness alert]]</ref>, and to buy Chris a PC so he could do more streams<ref>[[The_Knights_of_CWC_chats_(July_2021)#The_"Older_Lady_Friend"_Call_(Second_Layer_commentary)|Older Lady Friend Call]]</ref>, however both of these plans were cut short by Chris's [[Incest Arrest|arrest]] after he [[Affair With Mother|fucked his mother]]. After Chris got kicked out of his house for this, he contacted Caden to try and get his assistance in finding a hotel, though it is unknown how Caden responded to this<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref>.

While most cut ties with Chris after this, Praetor continued to talk to Chris. At one point, Chris mentioned that Caden was working on publishing the "Goddess Log", his jail diary<ref>[[Jail Call - 1 November 2021]]</ref>.

In [[May 2022]], Praetor began selling [[Praetor Jail Art|art that Chris made in jail]], making their contact with Chris much more obvious. They also added [[Jail Medallion Promotions|audio clips]] of Chris promoting their medallions from jail to their Etsy. Aside from these, the products sold on [[OfficialCWCmart]] became increasingly strange, including arrowheads, cult robes, and signed g-fuel.

In [[June 2022]], Chris started mentioning Caden in his letters, expressing his desire to have [[Helena Fiorenza]] collaborate with him<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 June 2022]]</ref>, though Caden did not respond when Helena attempted to do so<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref>. Chris also generally praised him, stating:

{{quote|Caden (Praetor) is genuinely one who is able to speak on my behalf when appropriate, and is in friendship and business association with I in mutual agreements; Include Him on the Fan Project Website, period, please.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 14 July 2022]]</ref>}}
{{quote|He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)|Jail Letter - 22 July 2022]]</ref>}}
In [[July 2022]], Chris began writing in letters about his newfound hatred of [[Barb]]. He told Caden to check if Barb was still at [[14 Branchland Court]], which he did. Caden told Chris that she was still there and refused to leave, after which Chris instructed Caden to call the police on her.

{{quote|By Caden’s confirmation, Barbara was still at the Sonichu Temple; Redneck and Stubborn. So, giving him the list of her charable crimes, including pet negigance/mistreatment, suicide threats, emotional manipulation and abuse upon I, and ADA’s law of using someone else’s SSI, I have instructed Caden alone, to call the police on her.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]]</ref>.}}

The two decided on starting a $150,000 fundraiser to pay off Chris's mortgages and debts, and to put Barb in an Elderly Care Home, with the help of [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] and [[Helena Fiorenza]]<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)]]</ref>. This fundraiser predictably failed, and ended with [[Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt]], [[Helena Fiorenza]] and [[Eels and the Egg-man]] cutting ties with Chris<ref>[[Excommunication letter]]</ref>.

===Interview===
{{main|March 2023 Praetor Interview}}
In [[March 2023]], Praetor had [[March 2023 Praetor Interview|an interview]] with a [[Kiwi Farms]] user. In this interview, they claim that Chris calls them twice about the Etsy store. They also claim that the store has earned Chris a lot of money, despite him still being in jail.

{{quote|Chris calls twice a week to deal with the store, as no listings are made with out his express oversight. As for the cease and desists, we'd just advise that folk stay out of any trouble. Chris's cash has been accumulating, as the money he gets from both the store and monthly disability hasn't been touched while incarcerated.}}

They claim that the reason Chris hasn't sent any letters or had any visitors is because [[David Heilberg]], Chris's lawyer, advised them to not let any "ill-meaning folk" near Chris.

{{quote|Both the lack of recent letters and having no visitors is intentional, as Heilberg advised us to close any way for ill-meaning folk to get close.}}

They offer more insider knowledge on Chris, such as the fact that he has grown a beard in prison, and that he has plans to return, with strange aspirations as well. None of these claims have been confirmed true, so it's ideal to take them with a grain of salt, however, Chris did [[Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime Resurrected and Returned|in fact return]], as foretold by Praetor.

==The Second Coming==
{{see also|OfficialCWCmart#Post-Jail Saga Items}}
[[File:Cwc-oct2023praetor2.jpg|350px|thumb|A post-jail image of Chris on [[OfficialCWCmart]], showcasing him with a Praetor medallion]]
After plenty of sightings online and [[Post-jail sightings|offline]], Chris finally made his grand return in [[October 2023]]. Along with Chris's return, [[OfficialCWCmart]] returned as well, stocked with a plethora of new items. This included new [[Medallions|Sonichu medallions]], with brand new pictures of Chris in front of a green screen, new promotions of [[Neo Spiritual Christianity]], and [[2021 Lost Commissions|dozens upon dozens of lost commissions]] that Chris drew for the [[Everfree Northwest]] fundraiser in [[2021]]

Chris's new videos from this point forward were incredibly high quality (for Chris's standards), best seen in [[Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime Resurrected and Returned]], in which Chris not only sings in front of a green screen, but numerous green screened versions of him dance in front of the screen as well. The trend of high-quality videos continued after this, with all of them containing Chris in front of a green screen.

It is very likely that Praetor is behind these videos, as they have previous experience with high-quality editing and Chris uses the same green screen which is used in the Etsy store. Chris also consistently promotes [[OfficialCWCmart]] in the description of these videos. These suspicions are once again validated in [[The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime]], in which Chris turns off the stream in order to respond to a phonecall from Caden Peck.

==External links==
*[https://www.instagram.com/praetor_llc Praetor's Instagram (deleted)]
*[https://twitter.com/_Praetor_ Praetor's Twitter]
*[https://www.etsy.com/shop/OfficialCWCmart Praetor's Etsy]

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