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August 2015

2015-08-07T18:10:57Z

FoxofGrey: Grammar Nazi.

{{Ongoing}}

'''August''' is the 8th month of '''[[2015]]'''. So far nothing has really happened.

==Events of August==
* 1 August - Chris announces on [[Facebook]] that 20 [[medallions]] will put up on [[eBay]] as early as August 3rd, and that custom medallions can be ordered.

{{Timeline}}

August 2015

2015-08-07T18:10:35Z

FoxofGrey: Something I guess.

{{Ongoing}}

'''August''' is the 8th month of '''[[2015]]''' So far nothing has really happened.

==Events of August==
* 1 August - Chris announces on [[Facebook]] that 20 [[medallions]] will put up on [[eBay]] as early as August 3rd, and that custom medallions can be ordered.

{{Timeline}}

User talk:Champthom

2015-05-28T05:56:24Z

FoxofGrey:

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

I have a similar problem and would like to be unbanned. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 23:23, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
*I'm guessing you got banned for being a sperglord, but what's your username?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
I was banned due to 789chan having a thread on me during one of their CWC dry spells. I went by Negi Springfield, so not much different from what I'm using right now. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 17:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I would also like to be unbanned from the message board. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 00:29, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
*You've had two threads about you on /cwc/ plus you've sperged about your "comic." No, you're not getting unbanned.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 August 2012 (PDT)

There was never a single warning I had received from any board moderator regarding personal attacks or violating message board policy. If my posts were so terrible, it only stands to reason that your moderators would have jumped in. Aren’t they the watchdogs of the message board?

What exactly is your justification for permanently banning people who have been mentioned on 789Chan? [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 07:22, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*There is a clear rule about over sperging and if there's a /cwc/ thread about you, odds are you've sperged too much. My moderators are often too lax when it comes to this sort of thing, which is why I step in. I don't need to warn you, you should know better, if you have autism that you choose not to treat that is not my fault. And my rationale? If you've got a thread about you on /cwc/, me banning you is the least of your concerns. In fact, I am doing a favor by preventing you from digging yourself deeper in a hole. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 8 August 2012 (PDT)

Champ this is right from the CWCki about “Sperging”
“The CWCki forums highly recommended place to discuss anything about Chris to your heart's content. This board was created in response to the growing demand for a place where people could discuss anything without fear of violating CWCki's strict talk page policies”

As far as sperging about my comic that was in reference to critiquing Chris’ art style

I mentioned there were open source graphics programs such as GIMP that were completely free to download. I brought up the fact that he could spend a little bit of his tugboat on reference works with royalty free manga stock images and copyright would not be an issue.

As for a few of the other topics that I started that probably sperged?
Are we being unfair to Chris in judging him?
Would you hire Chris if he was genuinely seeking employment?
Do you think that Chris and Barbara were intimate with each other?
If Chris decided to charge $250 for a for two day visit at his house and a no holds barred interview, would you take him up on it?

The board moderator(s) that I observed that wanted to put in their two cents worth joined right in on the debates: They had no issues with this. You mentioned the board moderators were too lax. I disagree. They were doing their job.

Let me share something with you: When that thread started about me around the beginning of January on 789chan and I was permanently banned: I monitored that thread every day. They went back and looked at my posts. Do you want to know what their reaction was?

They were baffled on why I was being banned. They didn’t bust my chops because of what I posted in the forum. What got the thread off the ground was a personal attack on 789Chan over a Beiber troll on my YouTube channel that came back and bit me in the ass. Was it a moment of stupidity that I regretted? Yup.

Have I been brought up twice on 789Chan? No. I’d say 5 to 10 times is more of a realistic estimate. It wasn’t sperging that brought me up on 789Chan. It was curiosity about my YouTube channel (which has been around for years) and more recently my website. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 20:31, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*Why do you want to go back on the forum so bad? It's kinda sad that you're going to all this trouble. Seriously, move on dude, talk about Chris on /cwc/, see how that goes. Hell, go to [[User:Slimz|Slimz's]] forum. Or start your own. Why do you want to go back on the forum so much? The point is that you give us unwanted attention and I have enough trouble maintaining the forum's reputation as it is.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:15, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
'''NOTE''' slimz forum is no longer active, never really was. Slimz would like to be reinstated in the forums as well :) i have bene here editing for a while ban was like a year ago. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 13:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
*Most of your edits are shit, plus what you do here has no bearing on the forums. You are the reason why everyone on /cwc/ thinks we're all A-Logs, there is no fucking way you're going back on the forum. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:35, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

I just took off my last reply. I'm not going to worry about this anymore. Do whatever you want. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 22:46, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
*What was the username you had on the forum? I've thought about it and I think I might just let you back on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:14, 11 August 2012 (PDT)

My username was Kengel1021 [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 16:04, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Thank you Champ. I am not sure what the policy for reentry is upon a ban lift under these circumstances so I have registered a new account(YippoBlippo)for the forums.--[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 16:23, 9 September 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

===My thoughts===
I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.

I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.

But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that [[Wikipedia:Repressed_memory|repressed memories]] in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.

Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.

In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.

So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.

Those are my thoughts at least. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.

Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?

As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
::: Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I've already explained myself. What is the harm in including it?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:46, 26 June 2012 (PDT)

So would you like the account info? I'd like to definitively prove that this is real and move on.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:26, 27 June 2012 (PDT)

* I don't think anyone doubts that you received the message, the uncertainty lies in whether the account you received it from is genuine which cannot be proved by someone logging into your FB account. And also whether it's important enough to go on the CWCki anyway. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 02:07, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

The what's wrong with the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? We've already established that there's an incredibly slim chance that it's a fake account, and this would reflect that small margin of error.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:41, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

* Ehhhh ... I'm still inclined to basically agree with Champ in the respect that this isn't really all that important and we're not losing out on anything major by not including it. I too also wonder why you're so insistent on this. Is this really so important that it's been worth the eight days of discussion thus far? That it's worth giving your Facebook info to someone to prove the authenticity of a point that is almost unanimously considered too minor to really be worth the effort? Which to me, I might add, seems an awful lot like something -Chris- would do, or would have done in the past. Honestly, the more you insist on having this put in the CWCki, the more skeptical I am and the more I feel that, for you, this is less about documenting things related to Chris and more about trying to boost your cred and adding more contributions to your credit. Or, like Champ already pointed out, trying to get into PVCC. Near as I can figure, the only one who is determined to see this in the CWCki is you. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 12:52, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
**This. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:39, 29 June 2012 (PDT)

*Alright fine, you don't want it, I'll stop pushing it. Champ can you let me back on the message board? I didn't violate any rules and it's been two weeks already.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:05, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*You broke the rule about being a sperg. If you wanna go talk about Chris, why not try /cwc/? I'm sure they'll love you there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:45, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*That's okay I'm content without being a member of either and just editing the cwicki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:08, 30 June 2012 (PDT)

====Help me out.====

I want to put this up as the video of the now but I'm not sure how. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r868reAYD4&feature=g-u-u[[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]]

== Ban [[User:Ireece1|this fag]] ==
You won't make me a mod, so get on it. Reason is vandalism. Check his user contributions. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:23, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*Not seeing it, all he did was say that 789chan was down (it's not anymore). Not sure what you're talking about.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:35, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*He implied a permanent closure when there was none. So my mistake, not vandalism. Inserting false information into pages. Still ban him. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:05, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
:*/cwc/ was down for a while and had a domain parking site in its place, it'd be easy to assume it's closed. A hasty assumption, but not inserting false information. Just revert since it's not the case and move on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:01, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
::* *stress sigh* Fine. I'll let it go this time. But I still believe you're not nearly harsh enough. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:53, 2 September 2012 (PDT)

== banned ==

My IP is permabanned on the CWCki forum...this was the reason: "Multiple Ban Evasions - Keep Your Cool :) " I was told to come here and grovel before you.

== Missed a pic ==

[[http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Hello.jpg]]

The vandal from earlier uploaded Goatse here as well. [[User:Cleaner|Cleaner]] 07:49, 17 September 2012 (PDT)

^ Ditto. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:05, 22 September 2012 (PDT)

== New Article ==

What do you think? Ready for prime time? [[User:Lumber/Chris and brand loyalty]]. --[[User:Lumber|Lumber]] 11:30, 1 October 2012 (PDT)

== New Article ==

What do you think? Ready for prime time? [[User:Lumber/Brand Loyalty]]. --[[User:Lumber|Lumber]] 11:32, 1 October 2012 (PDT)
*I was going to say, I'm usually reluctant to add another "Chris and..." article as I think they tend to be too speculatory at times. But I think this is a decent topic, as I've seen Chris's brand loyalty brought up from time to time on forums, though usually it's some component of it (like "Why is Chris so dedicated to Sonic?") and it's been a while since we've had an article of this caliber written. It's not perfect, but then again I don't think any article on the site is perfect. It looks like you did your homework, as did the other people who contributed to the article. So why the hell not? Go for it, dude. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:21, 2 October 2012 (PDT)

== Ban Evasion ==

Ban Evasion for What???? I had over 100 posts and had been here for more than a month. I posted in the Cwcki forum inquiring about posting on the General Forum and Smoked Daddy sent me a link to the General Forum to make a formal request. Smoked Daddy approved my request and I was initially able to post in the General Forum. I sent a message to Smoked Daddy saying the problem was resolved.

Because Smoked Daddy was new and somewhat unfamiliar with the technical side of this of the CWCki, the General Forum denied me access after replying to one thread and was no longer able to post. I sent another message to Smoked Daddy informing him that I still had a problem posting in the General Forum. I tried to log in to the forums this morning and saw I was permanently banned. -[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 06:52, 22 October 2012 (PDT)
*You've been banned before, you know why I banned you before, you don't ban evade on my forum (i.e. sign up for a new account). Take it like a man instead of ban evading like a pussy. I don't care if Smokedaddy was okay with it, you've been banned before and you're still banned, don't think you're that clever. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:55, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

Clever about what Champ? Are you implying there was some sort of subterfuge when I registered a new account? I registered a new account '''after''' you lifted the ban (from the 789chan controversy) to avoid any more controversy with my old name on the forum.

I openly stated this right on your userpage under the topic "Permanent Ban". It's still there and was there ever since registered the new account. You must have known I was the same person I registered with the same name, same address, same birthdate and the same hyperlink to my webpage.
This was right on my profile. Surely you check your userpage on regular basis.

On second thought: If it makes you feel better thinking I conspired against you, go ahead and enjoy your forum -[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 10:55, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

== ban evasion? ==

I'm confused as to why I'm banned from the forum. I never tried to register another name or anything. I wasn't a trouble maker and never had to be warned.

== Forums are offline ==

It looks like something bad might have happened to them.[[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 18:11, 6 November 2012 (PST)

Hey, Champ. I have webspace, and I'm willing to take up hosting responsibilities for the forum. Let me know what you think. [[User:SushiHazard|SushiHazard]] 12:57, 7 November 2012 (PST)

== This shit ==

Hey, I know you're probably busy with the forums and all, but [[User:Reldnahc_C|this guy]] is uploading some [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg10.jpg|pretty]] [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg2.jpg|stupid]] [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg3.jpg|shit]]. Considering this isn't ED and all, just thought you should know about it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 20:46, 12 November 2012 (PST)

== WelcomeBot Doesn't Work? ==

I notice that the WelcomeBot doesn't work anymore. Is it intentional or a glitch? [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 20:09, 13 November 2012 (PST)

== why was I banned? ==

Seriously, why the hell was I banned? All I get from it was Mew jumping to conclusions, Nia complaining about my description of my Chris dream, and Trombonista acting as if it's my responsibility to tell all the members something they could easily find out on their own.- [[User:Murderdartxker|Murderdartxker]]
*I'm not taking this all out on you but please, for the love of God, if you're going to ask me why you were banned ''tell me who the fuck you are.'' If you're using a different user name on the forums than your CWCki account, I need to know because I have no way of looking up your ban. I don't have access to any IP address stuff on here (the CWCki proper) so it's not like I can match it. Also be aware that I don't follow every single thread on the forums and I'm not responsible for every ban. In fact, I personally rarely ban people. I have no problem looking into why you were banned. I just need to know who you are so I can look your account up because I'm not a psychic. Alternatively, in the future, you can contact me at cwckiforums@gmail.com. Not taking this all out on you but I don't know why people who come on here using completely different usernames than their forum account expect me to know who they are. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:48, 19 November 2012 (PST)
My username is the same.- [[User talk:murderdartxker|murderdartxker]]
*Ah, here we go - Brooklynbaliff told me you shitposted, had some posts end up in Spergatory, and failed to take advice not to shitpost. Then you ban evaded by pretending to be a "friend" and asking why you were banned. I'm not kind to ban evaders, but I'll see what I can do.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:05, 19 November 2012 (PST)

==Banned for My Protection?==

"You know, most people don't PM me when they ban evade. Look, I'm doing you a favor, so you're not the next Chris-chan."

You're not fooling me. You're not "protecting me". You're not protecting anybody from "digging themselves into a hole". I've sat in 789chan (now n0chan)while you're so called 789chan policy was practially a laughingstock. In fact Champ you were responsible for Mew getting on their lolcow list.[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 15:17, 30 December 2012 (PST)
*I don't care. If you want to see what happens when I allow people to be spergs on my forum, ask Paul David "Eyebrows" Smith. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:03, 31 December 2012 (PST)

You are like many people with Asperger Syndrome who try using computer logic with a predictable result when it comes to human behavior. Such and such was mentioned on n0chan: Therefore such and such sperged.
Not surprisingly, you are laboring under a misconception concerning PaganDeathKnight. This was not just simple sperging. He unethically requested Megan’s dox, and then tried selling his services as a field agent. Most significantly, he came onto 789chan trying to be an internet tough guy much like Robert Wayne Stiles. In other words he was feeding the trolls.
Judging whether someone becomes a “Chris Chan” is not a computer-like science; it’s an art that requires intuition and individual judgment (i.e. analyzing thread direction, social interaction of the threads, emerging patterns, relationship history) and it’s different for each individual. Yes some things can be deducted but much of this is intuitive (reading between the lines) and you seem to be unable to do this. This can be learned by an Aspie such as yourself if you are willing to take the time to lurk in n0chan and study the threads and the patterns of interaction. --[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 19:30, 1 January 2013 (PST)

== locking non-talk pages ==

i changed the config so that non-jerkops/sysops can't edit the main namespace. talk pages are still editable. tell me how it works out --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 04:44, 23 January 2013 (PST)

== Hey ==

Do something about the spam usernames all over RC pls. Thanks. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:33, 28 January 2013 (PST)

== Forum Decision? ==

Hey Champ,

My offer still stands about hosting the forum. Seeing as the relief forum just kicked the bucket, now may be a good time to move on.

My email is ichverbot at gmail dot com

--[[User:Null|Null]] 20:24, 29 January 2013 (PST)

=== Forum Setup ===
I sent a reply 2 hours after the original email, check your spam folder. I've already set up the forum. http://cwckiforums.com

I've registered you an account called Champthom with full admin powers. The password is in the email.

--[[User:Null|Null]] 13:56, 31 January 2013 (PST)

=== Email Received ===

I sent another email to your personal address. Let me know if you got it.

--[[User:Null|Null]] 18:34, 31 January 2013 (PST)

== Re: For Pete's Sake ==

Thanks, I'll remember that. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 00:05, 10 September 2013 (PDT)

== Sagas ==

I would like to ask you to please review the page on [[Saga|sagas]], as there has recently been the addition of a "Revalation [sic] Saga"--as though a new era is upon us. I am skeptical of its legitimacy, so I appreciate it if you took a look. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:48, 8 October 2013 (PDT)

== Facebook revamp ==

Hi, I've been trying to clean up the Facebook sections of the wiki. I wonder what you have to say about my changes.

Also, I've made some comments in the portal, and I would like you to look at this: [[CWCki:General#Facebook_revamp]].

[[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 07:57, 5 November 2013 (PST)

* Hi it doesn't seem like you have any opinion on my current facebook revamp, so I will be finishing it up as I've done the rest of the posts. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 14:26, 19 November 2013 (PST)

== Hate to bother you about this ==

Would you mind deleting my first upload of the 6th photo commented on by Chris? The reason is that I'm a moron. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 02:55, 1 January 2014 (PST)

:Did that for you. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 06:57, 1 January 2014 (PST)
:: Thank you very much. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 07:12, 1 January 2014 (PST)

== Re: Welcome Template ==

I am aware of that, but when I did so, this is what I got, everything's perfectly fine except for the final part: http://i.imgur.com/OtWcjdA.png

== Grace Baptist Church ==

Good day,

I'd like to ask for your consultation. I've come to the conclusion that the date for Chris's expulsion from [[Grace Baptist Church]] provided by the article on this subject is wrong, and I have stated my reasons for thinking so [[Talk:Grace Baptist Church#The date of Chris's expulsion from Grace Baptist Church|here]]. I'm hesitant however to amend the article because this would mean reverting a five year old edit. Seeing that among this wiki's active users you have been here for the longest time, I'd like to know your thoughts on this matter. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 23:49, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

*I'm not sure how we got that date, I imagine it's mentioned ''somewhere'' if you dig for it. It's possible that someone just guessed the date. If you can't find a source for the date, I'd say it's better to err on the side of caution and say that Chris was banned sometime in that general time range instead of an exact date. Or just putting a "citation needed" might work to say that we don't have an exact citation for it.

:Just because an edit is really old doesn't always mean it's right. There's usually some reason for it but we didn't always have high standards and as I've mentioned before, because we don't have a lot of editors, bad content can be left for long periods of time without someone catching it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 10:05, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

**Thanks for the input. As far as I can see not only there aren't any sources for that date, the sources we do have argue against it (see Grace Baptist Church talk page for my arguments). I'm going to wait a couple of more days to see if anyone has anything to say on this matter, and if there won't be any objection I'm going to edit the article according to my plans. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 15:58, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

== Context for Twin Falling Towers ==

On the forums you suggested that someone told Chris he should make [[Twin Falling Towers]] because Clyde worked in the Twin Towers. However, the article precludes this. Now, it wouldn't excuse Chris' behavior, but it would add some context to the situation and make it seem less A-Loggy if it was true that he didn't come up with the idea all on his own. Is it safe to say that a troll at least ''may'' have suggested this idea to him? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 16:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

: I recall seeing a post where someone actually influenced Chris to make a video, and if it does, I agree that context should be added. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 16:32, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

* I don't recall saying that. Not saying I didn't, I just don't remember saying anything about that video. I certainly don't remember anything about it being because Clyde worked at the Twin Towers. I can say that I'm like, 99% sure that someone suggested he make this but I don't have a public source to verify this. I consider myself reliable but I don't want the reason it's cited as "because Champthom says so" as the reason. Truth be told, pretty much all but a very few of Chris's videos were made because someone suggested or motivated him to make a video he might not have made.

: Saying he ''might'' have been influenced isn't awful, but it just seems very wishy washy and you can argue all sorts of crazy stuff about Chris if you suggest he "might" do something. I'm not an A-Log, I wasn't personally offended by the video like some people were but I think that even if Chris was motivated to do this by someone else, Chris lacked the discretion and judgement to realize that making a video mocking what's a national tragedy in the minds of many people as being in extremely poor taste and that is what people would find reprehensible about Chris. Again, I don't think this justifies the A-Log arguments that Chris should be trolled because he made that video or that makes Chris an amoral monster, just that Chris exercised extremely poor judgement that he really should have been able to exercise. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 12:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

::Thanks for the feedback. Maybe I will just delete this part then: "Many believed that Chris must have been motivated by a trusted friend into creating such a video for the express purpose of causing Chris to embarrass himself for our amusement, but there has been no evidence to support this theory. Chris just managed to do something so autistic that it was difficult to believe, even for him." That seems to be speculation itself, and anyway the rest of the article already talks about how tasteless and offensive Chris was in doing this. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 20:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

== Anna's CWCki account? ==

In 2011 a user called [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:Contributions/FFFFFUUUUU FFFFFUUUUU] edited the CWCki and claimed to be Anna, and you [http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anna_McLerran&diff=135073&oldid=135072 responded] to him/her under the assumption that this is indeed everyone's favorite Mormon. It is confirmed for certain that Anna is the operator of this account? If so, can I edit the article on Anna to mention her edits to the CWCki and likewise use her edits as a source about her relationship with Chris? - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 16:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

== CWC Videos on Archive.org ==

Hi, you seem to be the highest-in-command here. I thought you'd like to know that the Internet Archive has a collection of CWC videos [https://archive.org/details/christopherwestonchandler here]. That should preserve his legacy for a REAL long time. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 17:05, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
*Wow, that's pretty impressive. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 17:28, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
:You're welcome. :) I'm actually the guy who uploaded all of those videos—in their highest resolution. Let me know if any videos need uploading on the collection. Plus, I've backed up this wiki and archive.sonichu.com [https://archive.org/details/wiki-sonichucom here] and [https://archive.org/details/wiki-archivesonichucom here] respectively. Hope I've helped out. I'm sorry for starting out here with some sexism comments. I've had bad experiences with girls in my past... [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 20:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== Unable to make new pages ==

Hi. I am unable to make new pages because even though it gives me a notice about needing to play a game to prove I'm human, it doesn't show me the game. I'd like a little help with this, please. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 19:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

== CWCki ==

Why does this wiki exist? Is it because [[Chris]] is just about everything bad a human can be? :P [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 18:50, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

== DVD photos ==

Hello. I was just browsing through the video of Chris's old DVD that he released in 2007. There is a big disparity between the images shown on the video and the images found in "Category:DVD slideshow images." While many of the missing images are scattered around the CWCki, there are many shown on the video that I've never seen before and I can't find anywhere on the CWCki. For some reason, the slideshow images were uploaded to the CWCki in bits and pieces by different users. My question is, do you or any other old-timers know if these images are saved somewhere? Where did they come from originally? When Chris gave PandaHalo a copy of the scrapbook, did she also get the old photos?

I would like to restore this photo album, and I'd like to get my hands on a few particularly interesting photos. Any assistance would be welcome. Thanks. --[[User:Asperhes|asperhes]], 1/31/15.

*[[PandaHalo|Panda]] dropped an entire .rar or something along those lines of the DVD slideshow. If I'm not mistaken, she did a drop of the DVD slideshow and then of his scrapbook. I'm curious what images may be missing. I remember I was the person who initially uploaded all the images from that .rar, one by one so it's plausible I might have missed one. It's been a while since I've seen the DVD slideshow but I don't recall seeing images that weren't in the DVD.

:It's possible that the images you're thinking of are on here, but not properly categorized. Unfortunately, there are many things on here not properly categorized and personally I'm leaning on that explanation. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

== Favicon ==

MediaWiki noob here. I don't know who else to talk to, and you seem to be pretty well-versed in the workings of the site. I made a Favicon for the CWCki, but I don't know who to send it to in order to get it on the site. Would you know what to do about that? This is what it looks like: [[File:Chris pokeball.png]]
[[User:Pwnisher248|Pwnisher248]] ([[User talk:Pwnisher248|talk]]) 03:27, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
* I swore we had a favicon, must have been lost at some point. That's a fine looking one, I'll see what I can do. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 13:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
* Cool. I'm a noob so I couldn't figure out how to get rid of the white border, but someone who knows this stuff better than me could. [[User:Pwnisher248|Pwnisher248]] ([[User talk:Pwnisher248|talk]]) 17:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

== Retiring from the CWCki? ==

Hi Champ, just wanted to check: are you going to retire from the CWCki in addition to the forums? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 15:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

== Broken MediaFire Links ==

Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital.

I originally posted this on the Main Page's talk, but seeing that you were around for so long, I thought you can probably repair a lot of the links. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 22:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Champthom

2015-05-28T04:52:04Z

FoxofGrey: Duplicate post, sorry :P

User talk:Champthom

2015-05-28T04:50:31Z

FoxofGrey: /* Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise re-upload? */ new section

User talk:Champthom

2015-05-28T04:49:35Z

FoxofGrey: /* (Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise re-upload? */ new section

Talk:Jackie

2015-05-26T09:37:19Z

FoxofGrey:

{{Not A Forum}}

tl;dr: This woman decided to contact us and wants to tell other women not to go out with chris. she doesn't know how the wiki shit works so just like...i'm handling it for now. so yeah. okay. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 04:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

and apparently now she's back with chris for some reason. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 14:35, 13 September 2010 (PDT)

: I'm assuming this is the same woman as in the Jackie e-mails, right? - [[User:Boop|Boop]] 15:24, 13 September 2010 (PDT)

Wasn't the Jackie page deleted sometime ago between the 6th and now while we were trying to figure it out. Or am I forgetting the origonal name? --[[User:SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 21:37, 13 September 2010.

I thought that listing the last name was a no-no after the Wallflower incident. Is this something that should be taken out or are we going to leave it up this time? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 19:10, 13 September 2010 (PDT)

You have to remember that The Wallflower herself requested to take her name down of the site - all the other names e.g. Megan Schroeder are still there --[[User:Maximilian Graves|Maximilian Graves]] 19:14, 13 September 2010 (PDT)

== STOP BEING RETARDS ==

Damn slow-in-the-minds. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 09:52, 17 September 2010 (PDT)
* Seconded. --[[User:Clydec|Scruffy Clyde]]

== Typo/Error? ==

"Furthermore, he uploaded a ModNation character generically named 'Sweetheart', which was discussed to be another Chloe or Wallflower."

Shouldn't it be Lovely Weather instead of The Wallflower, since The Wallflower actually turned out to exist? -[[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 18:09, 13 October 2010 (PDT)

*I think what they meant by Wallflower is that the sweetheart is someone Chris thinks he's dating. It looks fine to me. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 23:00, 13 October 2010 (PDT)

==Jackie's Hooke Cafe profile==
Is the whole copy of her profile really necessary, I think we should take it down and give the abridged version (just the facts that relate to chris)--[[User:CaseHa|CaseHa]] 10:21, 28 October 2010 (PDT)
:Yes it is necessary. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:30, 28 October 2010 (PDT)

==Status of Relationship==
So, it seems that they've broken up, with Chris LEAVAN INTERNETS and the pleading video about her not leaving him, but the reasons are still unclear. Maybe we should put up a detail about the end of this relationship for some clarity? Until we get some more evidence, that is. [[User:PerilousSquall|PerilousSquall]] 07:43, 25 November 2010 (PST)

*Nevermind, Jackie is awesome. [[User:PerilousSquall|PerilousSquall]] 05:18, 3 December 2010 (PST)

*The '''REAL''' Jackie is awesome. Not the troll Jackie. And I know what you're asking: "Wait, Jackie was a troll?" Well, yes and no. For the beginning of the relationship she was real, but from September on, a troll by the name of "Ofoosy" posed as Jackie and bribed Chris to make videos with Porn Pictures of Jackie (as she is apparently a porn star...((from what he told me))) and of other women...as Chris has no sense of facial recognition. Ofoosy broke the relationship off because he was either bored or it was his indulgence in pot that made him lose his persistance to keep torturing Chris. I also have more information about Ofoosy, if anyone is interested. I'm not making this up at all. I saw this fold out from September on. The only proof I have is my word.

[[User:Etoxic|Etoxic]] 20:46, 7 December 2010 (PST)

**I don't believe a word of this. Sorry. From my lofty, knowledgeable perch as a basement dwelling fuckhead I'm FAIRLY sure that porn stars don't have to advertise on personal sites, and if they did, they wouldn't use pictures that are part of their regular porn portfolios (and, thus, making their profession easily discoverable). And if they DID, they wouldn't be interested in fat gay truckers with acne scarring like they were in some kind of war. And if they WERE, one look at that comic and they'd run screaming since they're human beings and no human being likes Sonichu. And if even if she WAS into... etc etc. Sorry, there's just no way that Jackie was anything other than 100% troll from the get-go. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:56, 7 December 2010 (PST)
*** EVEN IF all this was true, there's no sauces at all. So it's not verifiable. It's speculation at best. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:58, 7 December 2010 (PST)
**** Ronichu is absolutely right. Of course she was a troll, I mean could it be any more obvious? Looking at the mails and chats it's safe to say that Jackie didn't behave like a sane human when interacting with Chris. After writing your little story, you tell us the only proof we have is your word? Oh wow. Around here, that means even less than elsewhere. You know what, I'm the real Sonichu, I came to life and fled from my creator. I swear by god, that I'm not an atheist and this is all true! --[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 15:33, 8 December 2010 (PST)
Guise, why so critical? This sounds perfectly reasonable to me. You're just being Oppressive and Racist Against Legitimate truth. I think we should at least listen to this Potentially IMportant Person so that we can confirm the Honesty of Our Shit. Please proceed, Etoxic. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:06, 8 December 2010 (PST)
* Freecell is absolutely right. By all means proceed. I'd love to read some stories while Chris is away. --[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 07:24, 9 December 2010 (PST)
**I always wondered if Jackie was for real or if she was a troll posing as a sexy, cute sweetie named Jackie. [[User:Lelouch Vi Britannia|Lelouch Vi Britannia]] 20:10, 22 September 2011 (PDT)
***[http://www.cwcki.yuku.com These guys will fill you in.] Also, make sure your comments go AFTER peoples' timestamps kthx [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:16, 23 September 2011 (PDT)

== Source of Jackie's picture ==
I have found an additional, nude picture of "Jackie", available [http://imgur.com/a/kDB12 here] (NSFW).
However, reverse-image-searching with Google provides no conclusive results. According to TinEye, both pictures date to late 2009 at the earliest.
Anyone know anything? - Jaluchodonozor, 2014-12-29T18:06

==Is Jackie actually Kari Byron?==
So this has just come across to me, but doesn't the two pictures (In the thread above) look like the leaked nudes of Kari Byron from MythBusters? I wonder this because this picture from ED (https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/b/bb/1275293798115.jpg) is on the same page as Adam Savage which matches these Jackie photos (http://imgur.com/a/kDB12). So could we confirm that Jackie is a troll then? FoxofGrey, 2015-05-26T05:37

File talk:BlachuSSB.jpg

2015-05-08T13:12:14Z

FoxofGrey: Created page with "===Seriously...=== Is Chris Chan still censoring swear words like "fuck"? The guy is over 30 years old and he still is in the No-Cussing Club. Also grass grows, birds fly, and..."

===Seriously...===
Is Chris Chan still censoring swear words like "fuck"? The guy is over 30 years old and he still is in the No-Cussing Club. Also grass grows, birds fly, and Chris Chan can't draw for shit.

User:FoxofGrey

2015-04-04T10:14:04Z

FoxofGrey:

Hello ladies and gentlemen, dudes of all teenages. It is I, Foxy. I started with Chris Chan at 2011 when I saw him in one of Guru Larry's videos (That one Nicolas Cage cake video) and I wondered for a bit.

{{GrammarNazi}}
{{AssBurger}}
{{HFA}}
{{VivianGee}}
{{BlueSpike}}
{{ClydeCash}}
{{Wii}}
{{White}}
{{Americunt}}
{{Eurofag}}

~"I have enough material in my life to make an ED page about me longer than Chris Chan's page."
Me

Secret Weapon

2015-03-30T05:25:01Z

FoxofGrey: Making the "HA, HA, HA, HAAAAAAA-HAAA! " a rage quote

{{Quote|Isn’t that Chris-Chan’s arch enemy Clyde Cash?|Paper Jam Dipper's top comment on Know Your Meme's article about Lee Hotti.}}

'''Secret Weapon''' is a [[YouTube]] video posted by [[Chris]] on 30 [[March 2009]]. In this video, Chris claims to have the mugshot of the evil [[Clyde Cash]], which is actually a picture of Lee Hotti. Nonetheless, it is now jokingly circulated as Clyde's picture.

==Video==

{{Infobox/video
| name = Secret Weapon
| video = {{#ev:youtube|btXP1JthVes}}
| stardate = 30 [[March 2009]]
| style = {{Smug|text}}
| saga = {{Clyde|text}}
| shirt = {{BrownLogoShirt|text}}
| previous = [[Take_that_Page_DOWN_NOW!#Director.27s_Cut|Take that Page DOWN NOW! (Director's Cut)]]
| next = [[YouTube Finale#Video|YouTube Finale]]
}}

{{quote|You're a freak!}}

=== Transcript ===
[[Image:0606-CWC21-2.jpg|thumb|Chris was a guido in [[2003]]]]

Laugh now, as much as you want Mr. '''Sin Dinero''' [''[[Spanish]], obviously meaning "without money"''], because you have [[Chris and money|no money]]. And you-I can tell you why you can't-why you try to [[Re to Chris No 2 - SHE IS MINE NOW|steal other men's women]], I tell you what.

[''looks at picture of "[[Clyde Cash]]", scoffs''] And a big detail you left-you may eh-you might have not overlooked. [''[[Chris and cinematography|holds picture up and off-center to the camera]]''] I have your mugshot. I can't even stand to look at it! All those ''damn freckles''! [''At this point, Chris moves the paper aside slightly and you can see he's reading off something else for his lines''] You're a [[autism|FREAK]]! [''The audio distorts a bit at this point, making Chris's laugh even more disturbing.'']
{{RageQuote|'''''HA, HA, HA, HAAAAAAA-HAAA!'''''}}
[''At'' this ''point, Clyde's "mugshot" is positioned fully at the camera''] I scoff at you, you ugly ''freak!''
{{Clear}}

==See also==
*[[No More Jokes]]

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Take that Page DOWN NOW!]]|nextlink=[[YouTube Finale]]|}}
{{Troll Videos}}

{{Clyde Saga}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, March 2009| 2009-03-30]]
[[Category:Clyde Cash Saga videos| 2009-03-30]]

Talk:KCWC broadcast

2015-03-14T19:14:52Z

FoxofGrey: /* Copyright Bullshit */ new section

== Finish Transcription - DOWNLOAD IS HERE ==
*http://www.mediafire.com/?h06cz71hkp1tel3
*http://www.mediafire.com/?ed5zdrzl2ueb60c
*http://www.mediafire.com/?fzouhy6ng8e1kun
[[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 12:06, 3 October 2010 (PDT)

== OKAY MEGAVIDEO LINK HOW ABOUT THAT ==
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=87A2OZ6K [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:55, 12 October 2010 (PDT)

==To do==
*add relevant information (namely dates)
*include audio (i.e. the slideshow from the the DVD)
*transcribe this.

Also if anyone has a better suggestion for a name, by all means suggest it here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:05, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:I already said I would be attempting this (see userpage), but it will have to wait until after those Jew holidays. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:48, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
::I will let you do the transcribing if that's alright with you? --[[User:Lexluthzor|Lexluthzor]] 18:49, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

pretty disappoint that it took us this long to make a page for this. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 19:17, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
*In the future, just [[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT FAGGOT]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:27, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

Transcribin' dis SECOND BITCH.-- [[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]] 20:07, 18 September 2010 (PDT)

Transcribed dat SECOND BITCH. --[[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]] 20:07, 18 September 2010 (PDT)

Transcribing part VI. It's tough going --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 19:33, 27 September 2010 (PDT)

Has anyone noticed that chris named his megan shrine pictures "meganshrine"?!--[[User:TounguesharingMOMENT|TounguesharingMOMENT]] 18:29, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

== Parts VIII and IX cannot be transcribed ==

Does anybody have the files of the DVD and willing to transcribe the latter parts of this? Due to Youtube and WMG, the audio was muted on parts VIII and IX and the CWCville Library cannot upload those parts to Youtube. Any suggestions on what to do? --[[User:Lexluthzor|Lexluthzor]] 19:06, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:Maybe see if Clyde has a copy? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 13:22, 19 September 2010 (PDT)
:*Talk with Abuelita from the [[CWCville Library]], she could probably set you up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:37, 20 September 2010 (PDT)
::*Looks like you might have to download the entire DVD to get the slideshow.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:04, 21 September 2010 (PDT)
I posted this segment of the dvd on the mediafire links below. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:03, 27 September 2010 (PDT)

== Transcribing Part IV ==

I now have GREAT respect for you transcribers. I never thought it was this difficult! The chipmunk voices are ANNOYING AS HELL to deal with! But, alas, for the glory of the CWCki, I shall overcome this challenge! --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 13:27, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

* This bitch is DONE! I'll probably do Part V tomorrow if nobody's done it. I need somebody's help if anyone knows the name he said in part 4, however, because I couldn't quite make it out. Also, I'm not even going to bother to TRY and transcribe that terrible Lucy impersonation. If anyone else wants to, feel free. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 14:41, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

* I feel your pain. Just finished part VI. Listen to it, imagine transcribing that Mario Kart bit. I'm exhausted. I wqas gonna do part VII but I can't face it right now. >_< --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 19:59, 27 September 2010 (PDT)

Sigh, doesnt look like anyone else is gonna do it. OK transcribing part VII now.--[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 22:00, 3 October 2010 (PDT)

== Part V Links ==

I'm lame with the links and will probably break the wiki page if I try. Anyone mind adding links, especially to the songs played, in the Part V I just transcribed? --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 20:57, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Is the article still "a bit small"? ==

It still says "This article, like Chris's pickle, is a bit small." Now that we transcribed an hour's worth of audio, should we remove that?

Also, I can't get past the fact that both the baseball and basketball games ended at a 53-50 score, impossibly high for a baseball game and too low for a regulation NBA game. Should that be linked to "Fail" or "Chris and Reality"? --[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 16:26, 29 September 2010 (PDT)

==Finishing Transcribing==

I'm working on the last videos that are published on Youtube with sound. Also I'm working on getting a video for VIII and IX with sound.. or at least that general area. None of Clyde's download links had sound for me.
A couple more transcripts should be up tonight. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 15:04, 12 October 2010 (PDT)
*that's because all the sound is on one channel for some reason. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:15, 12 October 2010 (PDT)
**I found a program that would play it with sound. Yay me not being totally lame. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (PDT)
*** VIII is done. Moving on to IX. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 16:32, 12 October 2010 (PDT)
**** IX is done. THERE. Man, him singing over that Japanese song was a pain in the ass. Anyone wanting to have a second go at that part feel free, though I think I got as much as I could out of it with only a few words I couldn't make out. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 19:01, 12 October 2010 (PDT)
*****And all you had to do was copypaste the lyrics from the [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]] album... --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:22, 12 October 2010 (PDT)

== Part IX Question ==

Not having heard the part in question, I have to ask: Did Chris play his pre-existing Hedgehog Boys recordings, or did he sing over the originals in the video (in essence making new recordings at the moment)? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:28, 12 October 2010 (PDT)
*After looking over the other videos of his recordings, I'm pretty sure he played pre-existing ones, though the transcription went more for the inflection in his voice. The only major difference I noticed is the extended beginning of the Zap song, though the recording is terrible enough to be the original. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 00:41, 13 October 2010 (PDT)

== Dead link ==

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv4BBori8Ac
** In [[KCWC broadcast]] on 2011-09-20 22:38:49, 404 Not Found
** In [[KCWC broadcast]] on 2011-09-28 08:14:59, 404 Not Found

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:14, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

== Poorly written ==

The entire first few paragraphs of this page are full of opinions and are poorly written, does anyone mind if i re-write it? [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:10, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*No-one minds at all. Get right on it and good luck to you. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)

== Copyright Bullshit ==

So all of Chris's videos that have been taken down due to copyright have been comprised of mostly WMG. As Chris would have put it, "Th-They are the most Corporate Jerkops."

User talk:Letter Z

2015-03-14T07:31:28Z

FoxofGrey:

please stop plastering your woman-hating views all over the wiki. - bobnintendo

== Irrational 'sexism' labelling ==

Please stop plastering your 'le tumblr boogeyman xd' nonsense over wiki articles; [[User:Bobnintendo|Bobnintendo]] has apparently already had to undo your revisions, so that should speak for itself. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 12:17, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

:Hey guys. I'm sorry I did that; the articles suggest that both are sexist. That, and I don't get along with girls well. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 15:47, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

for future reference, until you are fluent in english, do not attempt to 'correct' grammar which you perceive as incorrect simply because you do not understand it. [[User:Bobnintendo|Bobnintendo]] ([[User talk:Bobnintendo|talk]]) 18:23, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

<s>:Jesus Christ, you're not even using proper capitalization in your messages. And for God's sake, I know grammar. Just because of one simple mistake does not mean I don't. "i dount typw liek zis kay?" [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 19:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)</s>

Sorry, I was in a bad mood. I'll start fresh, okay? And you all guessed right—I'm scared of girls. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 20:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

==Videos==
I got your message. You should let the people who run The Cwcville Library on YouTube know, since they're archiving his videos. I personally don't know how to display videos on the CWCki. I tried but I can't figure it out, and I can't find a tutorial. I don't know anything about MediaFire. You might ask one of the site moderators, if they're around.

I'm still looking for a download of Chris's scrapbook, if you have any leads. [[User talk:Asperhes|asperhes]], 3/6/15

:Wait, what is Chris's scrapbook? [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 06:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

::All the photos that he included in his DVD back in 2007 or whenever that was. Most of the photos are on the CWCki, but dozens are missing, and the old link to the download is broken. The artwork he included in his scrapbook is all here, but the photos are incomplete. [[User talk:Asperhes|asperhes]], 3/7/15

:::Which ones are missing? Do we have a list? [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 22:13, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

::::The only way to make a list would be to watch his DVD and make a note of which ones aren't found on the CWCki, which would take forever. I do know for a fact that he included dozens of photos of his middle school staff, his high school staff, every single member of his high school basketball team, and every single cheerleader. He also included all four yearbook photos of nearly all his gal-pals. Almost none of these are on the CWCki. Most of this is bullshit and I don't care about it, but I bring it up just to show that the set was never systematically uploaded to the CWCki. My main concern is that there are no working links to the DVD photos and scrapbook pictures from Mediafire or wherever. There's one guy on the forums who says he has a copy, but he doesn't know how to make it accessible to others. [[User:Asperhes|asperhes]], 3/11/15

::::Well I do have the audio to Trollsta's Paradise and if you want to I could send you the audio file to do whatever with (archive it or something) [[User:FoxofGrey|FoxofGrey]] ([[User talk:FoxofGrey|talk]]) 3:31,14 March 2015 (EST)

(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise

2015-03-14T06:25:54Z

FoxofGrey:

[[Image:ECP 00024.jpg|thumb|left|C-Chan up in dis mothafucka.]]
[[Image:ECP 00025.jpg|thumb|Even my mama thinks that my mind is gone]]

"'''(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise'''" is [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]]'s version of [[Wikipedia:Coolio|Coolio]]'s "[[Wikipedia:Gangsta's Paradise|Gangsta's Paradise]]", featured in their second album, ''[[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys COMEBACK!]]''. The song deals with [[Chris]]'s struggle against [[Clyde Cash]] from Clyde's point of view.

==Listen==
{{Infobox/video
| name = "(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise" (song is at start of video)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|KVrVhoDeXFM}}
| stardate = [[April 2009]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}, {{Trollsicon|text}}, {{Clyde|text}}
| style = {{smug|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
| saga =
| shirt =
| previous = [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys Theme]]
| next = [[CWC Like a Virgin]]
}}

===Lyrics===
[''sung over Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise"'']

As I walk through the valley of wallow and dark shame 
I take a look at my life and I realize there's nothing here 
Cuz I've been blastin' and laughin' so long, that 
Even my [[Barbara Chandler|mama]] thinks that my [[Chris and psychology|mind is gone]]

But I ain't never left my [[computer]], dog gone it 
Me be [[Kick the Autistic|treated like a punk]], I take it out on that guy 
[[Chris and hypocrisy|I have too much stress and free time, I can't enjoy it]] 
I am a stressed homeboy imprisoned in [[lulz]]

A cheap laugh on that guy's lone expense 
As they croak I see myself worse off than that fool 
I'm the kinda 'G' no one gives a cryin' dime to care 
On my knees in the night ''(sped up)'' 
Saying prayers in the LCD light

We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradi~ise 
We been spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise

Look at the situation, they got me facin' 
I can't live a normal life, I was raised by the street 
So I gotta lay it down as [[Clyde Cash|Clyde No-cash]] 
Too much [[Internet]] surfin' got me tauntin' dreams

I'm an stupid 'lil fool with [[Kimmi|fake sex]] on my mind 
Got my mouse in my hand and a [[Semen|soda]]-stained keyboard 
I'm loc'd in [[Punchy|ninja]] ding dang ganger 
I keep my homies not here, so I'm a lonely dope, G 

[[Bob|...eath ai-ain't nothing but a heartbeat away]] 
I'm livin life, yo, do or die, what can I say? 
I'm [[BlueSpike|thirteen]] now, but will I live to see any-MOE?! 
The way things are going I don't know

...me why are why are so blind to see that the ones we hurt are you and me ''(sings 2 times faster)'' 
The... things... we... see... ''(catches up)'' ...hurt are you and me?

We... we...

W-w-we b-been spending most of our lives 
Living in a gang--|trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a grollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise

[[Power]] and no [[money]], money and no power 
Minute after minute, hour after hour 
Everybody's typing, but half of them ain't carin' 
... It's growing on in the kitchen, but I don't know what's hangin'

They gotta learn lame words, learnin' to- er- teach me 
If they can't understand it, how can they reach me 
I guess they can't, I guess they won't 
I guess I front, that's why I know my life is not well spent, G.

We been spending most of our lives 
Living in the trollsta's paradise 
We been spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise

Tell me why are we, so blind to see, that the ones we hurt 
Are you and me? ''(pause)'' Tell me why! We are we! 
So blind to see! The ones we hurt! Are you and me! ''(pause)'' 
''(catches up)'' ...ones we hurt are you and me?

==Link to the Song (Song will be posted on YouTube soon enough)==
* [http://pbouns.com/christian_weston_chandler.html Scroll down a bit and it should be there]

{{Hedgehog Boys}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Clyde's Trollsta's Paradise}}
[[Category:Yo! CWC Raps]]
[[Category: Christian and the Hedgehog Boys COMEBACK!]]

11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You

2015-03-14T06:25:17Z

FoxofGrey:

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"'''11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You'''" is a 6 [[November 2009]] video in which Solid Chris apologizes for behavior towards his sweetheart [[Kacey]]'s father with an emotional speech. It seems that the [[Father Call|discussion they had together previously over the phone]] didn't go very well. Chris also proclaims an undying, eternal love for Kacey, even though she's apparently only been his [[troll|girlfriend]] for a little over a week.

He used REO Speedwagon's 1984 power ballad [[KCWC_Top_10_Dedication_Special#Part_5:_.234|"I Can't Fight This Feeling"]] as background music. When the music drowns out his declarations of love for large portions of the video. Also, his [[medallion]] is missing, thus, his feelings are not TRUE and HONEST. Despite his whining, there are no actual tears, as Kacey [[Kacey and Liquid Call|later]] observes.

He occasionally refers to himself in the plural "us", or "we". One would think he might be talking about himself and Kacey, but the points he mentions are really only applicable to himself. This is possibly a renewed manifestation of his [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009|split personalities]].

== Video ==
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=== Transcript ===
[''Dramatic [[glasses]] removal, background music starts playing'']

[[Kacey]], I'm sorry about the way I acted... on your father last night. Yeah, could of—yeah, I realize that I could have been more respectful, and said [''salutes''], "Yes, sir"... and just stick with that. And I realize now that, some of the things he talked to me about, told—talked down to me about, were like, yeah, definitely things I should be working on. And I promise, I will get an office job. And I will make efforts to move out of my house, even though I'll probably end up with this house, inheriting it.

But, anyway, [''closes eyes''] Kacey, I—I love you so much I care about you. You just ma-ma-make me feel so sad—make me feel so that... Phone call where... [''[[Stress sigh|Sighs]], then squints, as though starting to tear up.''] you—you went and said some of the things your father said. Those shots with words... made me cry. [''voice breaks''] I'm not afraid to cry in front of you. If I have tears I w—I... we—we have... shed them, and we shed them in front of you. It's... [[Duck|it's very hard....]] You just made me feel so sad that I cried. Made that phone call there.

Kacey I need you. I need you. I love you. You're the best thing in my—you're the best thing in my life. The best person that's ever come into my life. You know that more than I do. You cared about our health and well-being. And I cared about you that much, as well, but, you put more in—you gave me advice that I... heed—that I have thought—that I have heeded. And I am... taking the steps to wake up and get myself more stronger and healthier for you. But it's like, you know, if you—but then it's like, if you end up going back to the [[CChanSonichuCWC|other Chris]] and—[''sigh''] I don't know, it just feels like I would have done [[fuck quest|all that work for nothing]]. I need you Kacey. I care about you so much. I just can't fight the feeling. [''Sudden volume increase, sounds almost angry''] I love you! I love you! I need you.

Please don't leave me. Please don't be mad at me. I made mistakes. But I'm... but a [[List of Chris's lies|man admits when he is wrong]]. And I was wrong in the way I acted last night. I'm sorry I hurt—I was very very sorry I hurt your feelings.

I'd be very—I would feel terribly sad if you went back to—back to the other Chris. Please, don't leave me. [''Raises voice''] I love you! I love you! Kacey, I love you! Please don't—please come back. Don't leave me.

And you need—and you need me—and you need me, as well, because, I am an [[Honest Content|honest]] and [[Vanessa Saga|very loyal]] person. And, unlike that—unlike that other Chris, I don't [[Chris and anger|go all that crazy]]. I stay sane most of the time, and, even when I try to [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|act crazy]] [''Something resembling either a chuckle or a sob'']... that lame—those are pretty much lame attempts.

Anyway... anyway I, uh—you know me; I am very—[[I AM STRONG|I am strong]], and I am strong-willed. I would do whatever I could, in my [[power]], for you. Everything. It's my—my—everything I can, within my power. And I... and I will hold onto my promises, just all the other things came up, and—but—but I don't need excuses. It's not about excuses. I'm gonna uphold my promises, Kacey. And I don't want you to leave me, please. I love you. And I need you. I'll talk to you later, probably. I pray. [''Video abruptly ends'']

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2015-03-14T06:24:25Z

FoxofGrey: It's a concept tag I made since Trollsta's Paradise and Tears for Kacey have been taken down by YouTube from Content ID. This might be the same as the video removed tag but what do you guys think?

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11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You

2015-03-14T05:55:36Z

FoxofGrey:

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"'''11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You'''" is a 6 [[November 2009]] video in which Solid Chris apologizes for behavior towards his sweetheart [[Kacey]]'s father with an emotional speech. It seems that the [[Father Call|discussion they had together previously over the phone]] didn't go very well. Chris also proclaims an undying, eternal love for Kacey, even though she's apparently only been his [[troll|girlfriend]] for a little over a week.

He used REO Speedwagon's 1984 power ballad [[KCWC_Top_10_Dedication_Special#Part_5:_.234|"I Can't Fight This Feeling"]] as background music. When the music drowns out his declarations of love for large portions of the video. Also, his [[medallion]] is missing, thus, his feelings are not TRUE and HONEST. Despite his whining, there are no actual tears, as Kacey [[Kacey and Liquid Call|later]] observes.

He occasionally refers to himself in the plural "us", or "we". One would think he might be talking about himself and Kacey, but the points he mentions are really only applicable to himself. This is possibly a renewed manifestation of his [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009|split personalities]].

== Video ==
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=== Transcript ===
[''Dramatic [[glasses]] removal, background music starts playing'']

[[Kacey]], I'm sorry about the way I acted... on your father last night. Yeah, could of—yeah, I realize that I could have been more respectful, and said [''salutes''], "Yes, sir"... and just stick with that. And I realize now that, some of the things he talked to me about, told—talked down to me about, were like, yeah, definitely things I should be working on. And I promise, I will get an office job. And I will make efforts to move out of my house, even though I'll probably end up with this house, inheriting it.

But, anyway, [''closes eyes''] Kacey, I—I love you so much I care about you. You just ma-ma-make me feel so sad—make me feel so that... Phone call where... [''[[Stress sigh|Sighs]], then squints, as though starting to tear up.''] you—you went and said some of the things your father said. Those shots with words... made me cry. [''voice breaks''] I'm not afraid to cry in front of you. If I have tears I w—I... we—we have... shed them, and we shed them in front of you. It's... [[Duck|it's very hard....]] You just made me feel so sad that I cried. Made that phone call there.

Kacey I need you. I need you. I love you. You're the best thing in my—you're the best thing in my life. The best person that's ever come into my life. You know that more than I do. You cared about our health and well-being. And I cared about you that much, as well, but, you put more in—you gave me advice that I... heed—that I have thought—that I have heeded. And I am... taking the steps to wake up and get myself more stronger and healthier for you. But it's like, you know, if you—but then it's like, if you end up going back to the [[CChanSonichuCWC|other Chris]] and—[''sigh''] I don't know, it just feels like I would have done [[fuck quest|all that work for nothing]]. I need you Kacey. I care about you so much. I just can't fight the feeling. [''Sudden volume increase, sounds almost angry''] I love you! I love you! I need you.

Please don't leave me. Please don't be mad at me. I made mistakes. But I'm... but a [[List of Chris's lies|man admits when he is wrong]]. And I was wrong in the way I acted last night. I'm sorry I hurt—I was very very sorry I hurt your feelings.

I'd be very—I would feel terribly sad if you went back to—back to the other Chris. Please, don't leave me. [''Raises voice''] I love you! I love you! Kacey, I love you! Please don't—please come back. Don't leave me.

And you need—and you need me—and you need me, as well, because, I am an [[Honest Content|honest]] and [[Vanessa Saga|very loyal]] person. And, unlike that—unlike that other Chris, I don't [[Chris and anger|go all that crazy]]. I stay sane most of the time, and, even when I try to [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|act crazy]] [''Something resembling either a chuckle or a sob'']... that lame—those are pretty much lame attempts.

Anyway... anyway I, uh—you know me; I am very—[[I AM STRONG|I am strong]], and I am strong-willed. I would do whatever I could, in my [[power]], for you. Everything. It's my—my—everything I can, within my power. And I... and I will hold onto my promises, just all the other things came up, and—but—but I don't need excuses. It's not about excuses. I'm gonna uphold my promises, Kacey. And I don't want you to leave me, please. I love you. And I need you. I'll talk to you later, probably. I pray. [''Video abruptly ends'']

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[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, November 2009| 2009-11-06]]
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Talk:11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You

2015-03-14T05:55:20Z

FoxofGrey: Yet again wrong page :P

He's sad, pathetic, and delusional in this video. You'd think he'd realize that with the Twin Falling Towers video and the 'Apology' video that any hope of finding a girl, let alone losing his virginity, is completely and utterly gone. [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 06:00, 6 November 2009 (CET)

:*And yet, in this video, he comes across as more of a normal human being than he's seemed since his high school days ended and his days of being trolled began. Oh, the irony... [[User:Llort|Llort]] 06:11, 6 November 2009 (CET)

:*I really want to know what triggered this. RL trolling gets better results but it's harder to archive it-- no emails and IRC messages to log or voice chats to record. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 06:57, 6 November 2009 (CET)

:*There's so much bullshit and egomania to deconstruct in this vid. Like how he's already thinking that his parents are going to kick the bucket soon so he doesn't need to move out of his house. I love how he says she's the best person to come into his life, but it would seem that compared to how close he was with Megan, Chris and Kacey hardly even know each other. And how he used the phrase "some of the things [Kacey's father] talked down to me about," as if he's thinking how dare he question the great CWC! Kacey NEEDS me! [[User:Alteceastlansing|Alteceastlansing]] 09:03, 6 November 2009 (CET)
::*"he's already thinking that his parents are going to kick the bucket soon so he doesn't need to move out of his house" ... are we sure they're still alive? -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 10:18, 6 November 2009 (CET)

I just wonder exactly what Chris said to Kacey's father. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 06:10, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*We will need a large amount of SAUCE on this. I mean, this is incredible! We are close to the greatest Trolling attempt ever; forcing Chris to effectively GET A LIFE!!! [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:26, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:**He compared Patti's death to Kacey's grandmother dying in 9/11, and told Kacey's (ex-Marine) father he doesn't know what hard work or stress is. I don't know Chris's exact wording but he apparently argued with him about everything and told him that he crossed a line. Actual audio is unreleased ATM, but DOES exist. And Chris won't do shit to actually improve himself, ever. He won't listen to anything he doesn't want to hear and won't do anything he doesn't want to do. His first step would be admitting that he has a problem, and he can never do that. He just knows that promising to get a job and move out of his parents' house = potential china. -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:32, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*** Holy shit, acting like he knows stress better than a marine and works harder? How bout a page called Chris's Narcissism, where we list every time Chris acts like he is above others, other people owe him, he makes the rules, or has thought he was above the law. Good idea?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 22:50, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*** Agreed. Chris will never improve himself. He only promises to do so because he hopes that the promises alone will get her to come back. It's the thought that matters, right? Anyway I'm curious, were you in on this little episode, seeing how you know what went on? [[User:Glorious Tentacularity|Glorious Tentacularity]] 10:46, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*** So, are there any other audio files like that that haven't been released yet? Also, was it actually Kasey's dad, who I would assume is totally unaware of the whole trolling thing? If we actually got someone who had never met Chris before to be angry at him then that is quite good.
:*** Patience. We can't get audio of this because Kacey is TOTALLY NOT A TROLL OK. If she was, then it would be ok to release audio that only she would have access to. But she's not. So we wait. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 22:15, 6 November 2009 (CET)

TRANSCRIBING DIS BITCH.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:09, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*Please do. Between his crocodile tears and shitty acting, I can barely understand this autistic shell of a human being. [[User:Orly444|Orly444]] 06:15, 6 November 2009 (CET)
**THIS MIGHT TAKE AWHILE. Dear god the level of stammering is unprecedented. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:22, 6 November 2009 (CET)
***Make sure you mention his Cub Scout salute. He did that with Ivy's dad, too. I think he does it because Cub Scouts are generally not rapists. -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 06:42, 6 November 2009 (CET)
****It's done... mostly. There are parts where he's mumbling under his breath and stuttering so much that it's almost impossible to tell what he's saying. Also: this video marks the second time when I was afraid I would feel pity, but only ended up raging even harder. "All that work for nothing." God damn, I didn't know I had this kind of hate in me. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:04, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*****I salute you for your work. And don't worry, we all get that feeling about him. Then, he does something and fucks it up--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 07:24, 6 November 2009 (CET)

Actually, before I forget, what the fuck is that thing on the tv screen behind him? [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 06:18, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*I have a feeling it's some sort of music player on his PS3 (if they even have those, that is.) [[User:Orly444|Orly444]] 06:19, 6 November 2009 (CET)
**It probably is. The PSOne and PS2 had them, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for the PS3 to follow their lead. Of course, I don't own one, so I wouldn't know. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:33, 6 November 2009 (CET)
**Yes, just the visualizer that plays when you listen to music on the PS3. Globe of the earth kinda thing. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 07:07, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*** Kinda classy. Well, it would be in another context, anyway. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:31, 6 November 2009 (CET)

What's up with the plural pronouns? "''We'' shed them in front of you"? "''Our'' health and well-being"? Please don't tell me he's bringing "Christopher" into this debacle. [[User:Ayvuir|Ayvuir]] 16:40, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:Well this is just a guess, but when he's talking about "our health and well-being" Kacey is supposed to be the other party. Chis is very self centered and immediately assumes what's good for him is good for her as well.
:As for "we shed them in front of you" I think he just misspoke. Wouldn't be the first time. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:11, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*I have the feeling that he didn't just slip up - remember that time he had what appeared to be a split personality ([[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009]])? Maybe he actually IS going completely fucking insane. It wouldn't be a huge shock, to be honest, if that were the case. [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 20:15, 7 November 2009 (CET)
::*Naw, he slips up every single sentence. And do note his statement of "And even when I try to act crazy those are pretty much lame attempts." I think he's counting on Kacey showing this to her dad to prove C Dubya C is a true and honest sane Mr. Goodbar. [[User:Klingerbgoode|Klingerbgoode]] 12:36, 9 November 2009 (CET)

WHY WON'T HIS HAIR JUST PICK A LENGTH AND BE CONSISTENT --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:08, 6 November 2009 (CET)

Bryan Bash put up the audio of Chris talking to Kacey's father on /cwc/. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 08:50, 11 November 2009 (CET)

Talk:11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You

2015-03-14T05:54:57Z

FoxofGrey: Yet again, this proves that Youtube Content ID is BULLSHIT

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He's sad, pathetic, and delusional in this video. You'd think he'd realize that with the Twin Falling Towers video and the 'Apology' video that any hope of finding a girl, let alone losing his virginity, is completely and utterly gone. [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 06:00, 6 November 2009 (CET)

:*And yet, in this video, he comes across as more of a normal human being than he's seemed since his high school days ended and his days of being trolled began. Oh, the irony... [[User:Llort|Llort]] 06:11, 6 November 2009 (CET)

:*I really want to know what triggered this. RL trolling gets better results but it's harder to archive it-- no emails and IRC messages to log or voice chats to record. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 06:57, 6 November 2009 (CET)

:*There's so much bullshit and egomania to deconstruct in this vid. Like how he's already thinking that his parents are going to kick the bucket soon so he doesn't need to move out of his house. I love how he says she's the best person to come into his life, but it would seem that compared to how close he was with Megan, Chris and Kacey hardly even know each other. And how he used the phrase "some of the things [Kacey's father] talked down to me about," as if he's thinking how dare he question the great CWC! Kacey NEEDS me! [[User:Alteceastlansing|Alteceastlansing]] 09:03, 6 November 2009 (CET)
::*"he's already thinking that his parents are going to kick the bucket soon so he doesn't need to move out of his house" ... are we sure they're still alive? -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 10:18, 6 November 2009 (CET)

I just wonder exactly what Chris said to Kacey's father. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 06:10, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*We will need a large amount of SAUCE on this. I mean, this is incredible! We are close to the greatest Trolling attempt ever; forcing Chris to effectively GET A LIFE!!! [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:26, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:**He compared Patti's death to Kacey's grandmother dying in 9/11, and told Kacey's (ex-Marine) father he doesn't know what hard work or stress is. I don't know Chris's exact wording but he apparently argued with him about everything and told him that he crossed a line. Actual audio is unreleased ATM, but DOES exist. And Chris won't do shit to actually improve himself, ever. He won't listen to anything he doesn't want to hear and won't do anything he doesn't want to do. His first step would be admitting that he has a problem, and he can never do that. He just knows that promising to get a job and move out of his parents' house = potential china. -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:32, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*** Holy shit, acting like he knows stress better than a marine and works harder? How bout a page called Chris's Narcissism, where we list every time Chris acts like he is above others, other people owe him, he makes the rules, or has thought he was above the law. Good idea?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 22:50, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*** Agreed. Chris will never improve himself. He only promises to do so because he hopes that the promises alone will get her to come back. It's the thought that matters, right? Anyway I'm curious, were you in on this little episode, seeing how you know what went on? [[User:Glorious Tentacularity|Glorious Tentacularity]] 10:46, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*** So, are there any other audio files like that that haven't been released yet? Also, was it actually Kasey's dad, who I would assume is totally unaware of the whole trolling thing? If we actually got someone who had never met Chris before to be angry at him then that is quite good.
:*** Patience. We can't get audio of this because Kacey is TOTALLY NOT A TROLL OK. If she was, then it would be ok to release audio that only she would have access to. But she's not. So we wait. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 22:15, 6 November 2009 (CET)

TRANSCRIBING DIS BITCH.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:09, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*Please do. Between his crocodile tears and shitty acting, I can barely understand this autistic shell of a human being. [[User:Orly444|Orly444]] 06:15, 6 November 2009 (CET)
**THIS MIGHT TAKE AWHILE. Dear god the level of stammering is unprecedented. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:22, 6 November 2009 (CET)
***Make sure you mention his Cub Scout salute. He did that with Ivy's dad, too. I think he does it because Cub Scouts are generally not rapists. -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 06:42, 6 November 2009 (CET)
****It's done... mostly. There are parts where he's mumbling under his breath and stuttering so much that it's almost impossible to tell what he's saying. Also: this video marks the second time when I was afraid I would feel pity, but only ended up raging even harder. "All that work for nothing." God damn, I didn't know I had this kind of hate in me. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:04, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*****I salute you for your work. And don't worry, we all get that feeling about him. Then, he does something and fucks it up--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 07:24, 6 November 2009 (CET)

Actually, before I forget, what the fuck is that thing on the tv screen behind him? [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 06:18, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*I have a feeling it's some sort of music player on his PS3 (if they even have those, that is.) [[User:Orly444|Orly444]] 06:19, 6 November 2009 (CET)
**It probably is. The PSOne and PS2 had them, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for the PS3 to follow their lead. Of course, I don't own one, so I wouldn't know. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:33, 6 November 2009 (CET)
**Yes, just the visualizer that plays when you listen to music on the PS3. Globe of the earth kinda thing. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 07:07, 6 November 2009 (CET)
*** Kinda classy. Well, it would be in another context, anyway. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:31, 6 November 2009 (CET)

What's up with the plural pronouns? "''We'' shed them in front of you"? "''Our'' health and well-being"? Please don't tell me he's bringing "Christopher" into this debacle. [[User:Ayvuir|Ayvuir]] 16:40, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:Well this is just a guess, but when he's talking about "our health and well-being" Kacey is supposed to be the other party. Chis is very self centered and immediately assumes what's good for him is good for her as well.
:As for "we shed them in front of you" I think he just misspoke. Wouldn't be the first time. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:11, 6 November 2009 (CET)
:*I have the feeling that he didn't just slip up - remember that time he had what appeared to be a split personality ([[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009]])? Maybe he actually IS going completely fucking insane. It wouldn't be a huge shock, to be honest, if that were the case. [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 20:15, 7 November 2009 (CET)
::*Naw, he slips up every single sentence. And do note his statement of "And even when I try to act crazy those are pretty much lame attempts." I think he's counting on Kacey showing this to her dad to prove C Dubya C is a true and honest sane Mr. Goodbar. [[User:Klingerbgoode|Klingerbgoode]] 12:36, 9 November 2009 (CET)

WHY WON'T HIS HAIR JUST PICK A LENGTH AND BE CONSISTENT --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:08, 6 November 2009 (CET)

Bryan Bash put up the audio of Chris talking to Kacey's father on /cwc/. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 08:50, 11 November 2009 (CET)

Twin Falling Towers

2015-03-13T00:02:06Z

FoxofGrey: Seemed strange to have the rage icon paired up with the comedy tag (though I suppose it was in quotes considering the nature of the video itself)

'''Twin Falling Towers''' is an unusually tasteless video, even for [[Chris]]'s [[Chris and...|standards]]. In it, Chris attempts to threaten [[Clyde Cash]] by sticking an embarrassing picture of him in place of the Twin Towers and making childish explosion noises.

==Video==
This video was put in the [[Random-access humor|Comedy]] category. Good job, Chris.

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| name = Twin Falling Towers
| video = {{#ev:youtube|JRvoNe8_584}}
| stardate = 1 [[November 2009]]
| style = {{Smug|text}}, {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|"[[Random-access humor|Comedy]]"}}
| saga = {{Clyde|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
| previous = [[I AM STRONG]]
| next = [[It will never end]]
}}

{{quote|Your fame and fortune shall fall just like these twin towers!}}

=== Transcript ===
[[File:911.jpg|thumb|200px|Terrorism]]

[''Close-up on an image of the World Trade Center before its destruction. Fragments of the photo of "Clyde", that Chris has been using this whole time, are visible through the silhouette of the towers. Laid over the image is a pointing cursor; we are looking at a picture displayed on a computer screen.'']

Well now, Mr. Clyde...your toime and rutches--your fame and fortune shall fall just like these Twin Towers! They go crumbling down, with an airplane!

[''Chris moves the cursor towards the "towers."''] Nyerrrrrrr! Pffff! [''Chris wiggles the cursor around the "towers" to give the impression that they have exploded. He then does a horrible imitation of Strong Bad from'' Homestar Runner''.''] You are weeeeeeeak! [[I AM STRONG|I'm the strong wunnnnnn]]! You are going down, Mr. Clyde Cash! Gnrrrrrr!

==Liquid Chris responds==
[[Liquid Chris|Our Hero]] spotted the video not long after it was posted and offered a brief response reflecting the feelings of many observers.

{{Quote|HOW could You MOCK the ALMOST THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE who DIED in the Nine-Eleven Plane Attacks!? I WILL SHOW THIS TO KACEY, AND SHE WILL KICK YOUR ASS AND I WILL HELP.

Please Die,

CWC|YouTube comment from Liquid Chris}}

He made another comment a few minutes later.

{{Quote|And Another Thing, KACEY is from a MILITARY FAMILY. Now you are Doomed.

CWC|Liquid Chris, on how [[Ian]] further ruined any chances of getting to [[Kacey]]'s [[china]]}}

Unfortunately, no Marines have been spotted waiting outside of [[14 Branchland Court]].

==See also==
*[[Apology for 9/11 Joke]]
*[[Chris and death]]
*[[Random-access humor]]

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[I AM STRONG]]|nextlink=[[It will never end|It Will Never End]]|}}
{{Troll Videos}}

{{Clyde Saga}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, November 2009| 2009-11-01]]
[[Category:Clyde Cash Saga videos| 2009-11-01]]
[[Category:Gay Spider-Man videos| 2009-11-01]]

Talk:March 2015

2015-03-10T13:03:58Z

FoxofGrey:

== nothing happend much this month? ==

I wonder why that is...--[[User:Zimkiller1|Zimkiller1]] ([[User talk:Zimkiller1|talk]]) 01:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

•Well I do have a theory on it, it might be due to the "stress" he had from the recent court order from the Gamestop incident. And plus he might be still settling down at 14BC from the rebuilding.--[[User:FoxofGrey|FoxofGrey]] ([[User talk:FoxofGrey|talk]]) 11:50, 8 March 2015 (EST)

It's only the 9th of March. There's still more than a few days left. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 01:32, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

== SEGA Letter ==

So recently there has been a letter sent to Chris Chan about the Sonic Boom protests. And i did hear that it was in fact a troll. Could anyone confirm that it was in fact a troll?-- [[User:FoxofGrey|FoxofGrey]] 9:04, 10 March 2015 (EST)

Talk:March 2015

2015-03-10T13:03:07Z

FoxofGrey: /* SEGA Letter */ new section

== nothing happend much this month? ==

I wonder why that is...--[[User:Zimkiller1|Zimkiller1]] ([[User talk:Zimkiller1|talk]]) 01:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

•Well I do have a theory on it, it might be due to the "stress" he had from the recent court order from the Gamestop incident. And plus he might be still settling down at 14BC from the rebuilding.--[[User:FoxofGrey|FoxofGrey]] ([[User talk:FoxofGrey|talk]]) 11:50, 8 March 2015 (EST)

It's only the 9th of March. There's still more than a few days left. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 01:32, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

== SEGA Letter ==

So recently there has been a letter sent to Chris Chan about the Sonic Boom protests. And i did hear that it was in fact a troll. Could anyone confirm that it was in fact a troll? [[FoxofGrey|FoxofGrey]] (March 10, 2015 9:03 AM EST)

User:FoxofGrey

2015-03-10T02:02:33Z

FoxofGrey:

User:FoxofGrey

2015-03-10T02:02:09Z

FoxofGrey: Created page with "Hello ladies and gentlemen, dudes of all teenages. It is I, Foxy. I started with Chris Chan at 2011 when I saw him in one of Guru Larry's videos (That one Nicolas Cage cake vi..."

File:SEGA Letter.jpeg

2015-03-10T01:54:39Z

FoxofGrey: The transcript of the letter

Refer to March 9th, 2015 for more details. Transcript of the letter below:

Kesshite (Kathrine) Buruamuzu
Character Design Lisison
Sega of America, Inc.
350 Rhode Island Street, Suite 400
San Francisco, CA 94103

February 3, 2015

Dear Mr. Chandler,
My name is Kesshite Buruamuzu, but here in America I go by Katherine. I'm the Character Design Lisison for SEGA of America, which means I am responsible for addressing any and all issues arising from the use, misuse, and design of our characters.

I've been made aware that you are the leader of the current boycott of the Sonic Boom franchise due to changes in the Sonic character, specifically, the change from tan arms to blue arms. As I'm sure you've seen on the news, your boycott had been particularly effective! In addition to poor sales and many returns of Sonic Boom merchandise, we've had to replace in store promotional materials, replace missing Sonic Boom games from retail shelves, and hire extra cleaning crews to clean glitter bombs from our offices.

I'm please to tell you that SEGA of America has heard your issues with the Sonic Boom franchise, and has decided to act to alleviate the issue you have so clearly established. We will be making a herculean effort to address the abomination of Sonic's blue arms, and will be taking every step possible to accede to your wishes.

Unfortunately, due to both contractual and technical limitations, we are unable to recall all Sonic Boom merchandise. However, we have a compromise solution that we feel will address all of the issues with the game and the associated materials.

Beginning on March 31, 2015, we will be recalling all Sonic franchise material produced before the release of Sonic Boom, and releasing online updates for the previously produced games, in order to update the outdated Sonic material with the current blue armed paradigm. This includes all Sonic merchandise, including but not limited to games, apps, comics, books, television shows and specials, commercials, books, stickers, dolls and action figures, and keychains. We will be removing all of the tan armed depictions of sonic and replacing them with the new and improved blue armed look.

We would like to invite you to a Blue Armed Rebranding Ceremony on March 31 at SEGA headquarters in San Francisco. We will provide free accommodations at the Fairmont, a Five Star hotel, for you and one guest, you will have to provide your own transportation. Please RSVP by February 10, 2015.

If you have any questions, I can be reached at 1-800-872-7342

Thank you for your patronage

(signed signature) Kesshite Buruamuzu

Kesshite (Kathrine) Buruamuzu

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2015-03-10T01:31:03Z

FoxofGrey:

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2015-03-10T01:27:31Z

FoxofGrey: Refer to March 9th, 2015 for more details

Refer to March 9th, 2015 for more details

Template:Da update

2015-03-10T01:08:33Z

FoxofGrey:

<center>[[Image:News.jpg]]</center>
* 9 March - Chris posts a photo online which show Sega's supposed response to his Sonic Boom protests. The liaison of character design of the company, named Keshite "Katherine" Buruamuzu apparently misheard Chris's desires to change Sonic's arms back to his tan color, and announces that Sega will recall all merchandise of the franchise to make the hedgehog's limbs blue officially. Some have questioned whether or not this is just another trolling incident.
* 7 March - Chris releases a list of celebrities that he'd like to have a party with. [[Britney Spears]], [[Family Guy|Seth McFarlane]] [sic], [[My Little Pony|Tara Strong]] and [[Transformers|Peter]] [[Optimus Prime|Cullen]] made the list, among others.
* 1 [[March 2015|March]] - Chris lists 23 more medals for sale on eBay, complains about getting poor feedback for his lackluster production quality on Facebook, and celebrates "Derpy Ditzy Bubbly Mare Doo Day".
* 24 [[February 2015|February]] - Chris turns 33. [[Christian Love Day (video)|Happy Christian Love Day!]] Audio of his date with [[Catherine]] is also leaked today.
* 5 February - Chris' hearing happened without him macing anyone, next court date is [[April 2015|April 2nd]], 2015.
* 1 Feburary - Chris reveals that he was commissioned to do the album artwork for [http://www.leclipsenue.com/ an obscure noise group]'s most recent release.
* 30 [[January 2015|January]] - It's revealed that Chris had started glitterbombing [[Sega]] through the mail.

<noinclude>{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is a list of recent Chris-related activity, namely new content. To prevent the list becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added - with no more than 6 or 7 entries being displayed. To add new update to the list, simply edit this template and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]].}}[[Category:Front page templates]]</noinclude>

Template:Da update

2015-03-10T01:08:04Z

FoxofGrey: Yet another date

<center>[[Image:News.jpg]]</center>
* 9 March - Chris posts a photo online which show Sega's supposed response to his Sonic Boom protests. The liaison of character design of the company, named Keshite "Katherine" Buruamuzu apparently misheard Chris's desires to change Sonic's arms back to his tan color, and announces that Sega will recall all merchandise of the franchise to make the hedgehog's limbs blue officially. Some have questioned whether or not this is just another trolling incident.
* 7 March - Chris releases a list of celebrities that he'd like to have a party with. [[Britney Spears]], [[Family Guy|Seth McFarlane]] [sic], [[My Little Pony|Tara Strong]] and [[Transformers|Peter]] [[Optimus Prime|Cullen]] made the list, among others.
* 1 [[March 2015|March]] - Chris lists 23 more medals for sale on eBay, complains about getting poor feedback for his lackluster production quality on Facebook, and celebrates "Derpy Ditzy Bubbly Mare Doo Day".
* 24 [[February 2015|February]] - Chris turns 33. [[Christian Love Day (video)|Happy Christian Love Day!]] Audio of his date with [[Catherine]] is also leaked today.
* 5 Feburary - Chris' hearing happened without him macing anyone, next court date is [[April 2015|April 2nd]], 2015.
* 1 Feburary - Chris reveals that he was commissioned to do the album artwork for [http://www.leclipsenue.com/ an obscure noise group]'s most recent release.
* 30 [[January 2015|January]] - It's revealed that Chris had started glitterbombing [[Sega]] through the mail.

<noinclude>{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is a list of recent Chris-related activity, namely new content. To prevent the list becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added - with no more than 6 or 7 entries being displayed. To add new update to the list, simply edit this template and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]].}}[[Category:Front page templates]]</noinclude>

Template:Da update

2015-03-09T04:14:59Z

FoxofGrey:

<center>[[Image:News.jpg]]</center>
* 7 March - Chris releases a list of celebrities that he'd like to have a party with. Brittney Spears, Seth McFarlane, Tara Strong and Peter Cullen made the list, among others.
* 1 [[March 2015|March]] - Chris lists 23 more medals for sale on eBay, complains about getting poor feedback for his lackluster production quality on Facebook, and celebrates "Derpy Ditzy Bubbly Mare Doo Day".
* 24 [[February 2015|February]] - Chris turns 33. [[Christian Love Day (video)|Happy Christian Love Day!]] Audio of his date with [[Catherine]] is also leaked today.
* 5 Feburary - Chris' hearing happened without him macing anyone, next court date is [[April 2015|April 2nd]], 2015.
* 1 Feburary - Chris reveals that he was commissioned to do the album artwork for [http://www.leclipsenue.com/ an obscure noise group]'s most recent release.
* 30 [[January 2015|January]] - It's revealed that Chris had started glitterbombing [[Sega]] through the mail.
* 25 January: Chris begins begging his white knights to purchase him the [[Lego]] "Grand Emporium" set, which is a [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|shopping mall]].

<noinclude>{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is a list of recent Chris-related activity, namely new content. To prevent the list becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added - with no more than 6 or 7 entries being displayed. To add new update to the list, simply edit this template and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]].}}[[Category:Front page templates]]</noinclude>

Template:Da update

2015-03-09T04:14:05Z

FoxofGrey: Changed it a bit, made it better

<center>[[Image:News.jpg]]</center>
* 7 March - Chris releases a list of celebrities that he'd like to have a party with. Brittney Spears, Seth McFarlane, Tara Strong and Peter Cullen made the list, among others.
* 1 [[March 2015|March]] - Chris lists 23 more medals for sale on eBay, complains about getting poor feedback for his lackluster production quality on Facebook, and celebrates "Derpy Ditzy Bubbly Mare Doo Day".
* 24 [[February 2015|February]] - Chris turns 33. [[Christian Love Day (video)|Happy Christian Love Day!]] Audio of his date with [[Catherine]] is also leaked today.
* 5 Feburary - Chris' hearing happened without him macing anyone, next court date is [[April 2015|April 2nd]], 2015.
* 1 Feburary - Chris reveals that he was commissioned to do the album artwork for [http://www.leclipsenue.com/ an obscure noise group]'s most recent release.
* 30 [[January 2015|January]] - It's revealed that Chris had started glitterbombing [[Sega]] through the mail.
* 25 January: Chris begins begging his white knights to purchase him the [[Lego]] "Grand Emporium" set, which is a [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|shopping mall]].
* 24 January: Chris uploads a poorly-done GIF of the picture.
* 23 January: Chris posts his latest masterpiece on [[Facebook]], "[[Stress|My Mind is a Blank]]".

<noinclude>{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is a list of recent Chris-related activity, namely new content. To prevent the list becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added - with no more than 6 or 7 entries being displayed. To add new update to the list, simply edit this template and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]].}}[[Category:Front page templates]]</noinclude>

Template:Da update

2015-03-09T03:55:46Z

FoxofGrey: Added some events

<center>[[Image:News.jpg]]</center>
* 24 [[February 2015|February]] - Chris turns 33. [[Christian Love Day (video)|Happy Christian Love Day!]] Audio of his date with [[Catherine]] is also leaked today.
* 5 Feburary - Chris' hearing happened without him macing anyone, next court date is [[April 2015|April 2nd]], 2015.
* 1 Feburary - Chris reveals that he was commissioned to do the album artwork for [http://www.leclipsenue.com/ an obscure noise group]'s most recent release.
* 30 [[January 2015|January]] - It's revealed that Chris had started glitterbombing [[Sega]] through the mail.
* 25 January: Chris begins begging his white knights to purchase him the [[Lego]] "Grand Emporium" set, which is a [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|shopping mall]].
* 24 January: Chris uploads a poorly-done GIF of the picture.
* 23 January: Chris posts his latest masterpiece on [[Facebook]], "[[Stress|My Mind is a Blank]]".
* 1 March - Chris lists 23 more medals for sale on eBay, complains about getting poor feedback for his lackluster production quality on Facebook, and celebrates "Derpy Ditzy Bubbly Mare Doo Day".
* 7 March - Chris releases a list of celebrities that he'd like to have a party with. Brittney Spears, Seth McFarlane, Tara Strong and Peter Cullen made the list, among others.

<noinclude>{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is a list of recent Chris-related activity, namely new content. To prevent the list becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added - with no more than 6 or 7 entries being displayed. To add new update to the list, simply edit this template and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]].}}[[Category:Front page templates]]</noinclude>

Talk:March 2015

2015-03-09T03:51:19Z

FoxofGrey:

Talk:March 2015

2015-03-09T03:50:32Z

FoxofGrey:

== nothing happend much this month? ==

I wonder why that is...--[[User:Zimkiller1|Zimkiller1]] ([[User talk:Zimkiller1|talk]]) 01:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Well I do have a theory on it, it might be due to the "stress" he had from the recent court order from the Gamestop incident. And plus he might be still settling down at 14BC from the rebuilding.--([[User talk:FoxofGrey|talk]]) 11:50, 8 March 2015 (EST)

Talk:Chris Chan Documentary (Sachumo)

2015-03-02T06:35:22Z

FoxofGrey: More under the Chris and the Media and movies

Should this be moved to "Chris in the Media?" Does this fit into any existing category? [[User:Asperhes]] 2/3/15
** Maybe we should make a "Movies" category and put [[American Rabbit]] and [[Star Wars]] in there, too, and maybe the stub template too. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 00:29, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
**This documentary is a very different animal from American Rabbit. It's actually about Chris. In that sense it seems like it would better fit with other news items about Chris. Maybe a movie category would be a good idea, but I would argue against putting this doc there. [[User:Asperhes]] 2/3/15 (in this time zone)
**Perhaps we should move this article to the "Chris and the Media" and bunch up American Rabbit and Star Wars into an article called "Chris and Movies"? Maybe put in a couple more movies as well that Chris has/had talked about potentially? [[User: FoxofGrey]] 3/2/15 (EST)

== Thoughts? ==

Any thoughts or opinions on the documentary, for those who have finished? I thought it was quite well done for a fan-made film, and it was certainly admirable that he put as much dedication into as he did (i.e. the few interview clips with one of Chris's teachers). However, I did feel he left out a fair bit of info on the Asperchu and Tomgirl sagas, and especially with few to no mentions of his ego, albeit still trying to be unbiased. But, then again, it was simply supposed to be an hour-long summary, compared to the MOUNTAINS of information regarding Chris and co. here, so I could see why the narrator chose to not delve so deep, given the time-limit.

Personally, I've always seen Chris as a staple of narcissism, if anything, so I still feel that was worth some mention. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 00:57, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm only 54 minutes in it but I'm finding it really good so far. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 01:03, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I think this should be moved to 'Chris in the media' along with whatever amount of info we have on spazkids animated series on him. [[User: Ebolakitten|Ebolakitten]] ([[User: Ebolakitten|Ebolakitten]]) 22:57, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise

2015-02-25T23:54:51Z

FoxofGrey:

[[Image:ECP 00024.jpg|thumb|left|C-Chan up in dis mothafucka.]]
[[Image:ECP 00025.jpg|thumb|Even my mama thinks that my mind is gone]]

"'''(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise'''" is [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]]'s version of [[Wikipedia:Coolio|Coolio]]'s "[[Wikipedia:Gangsta's Paradise|Gangsta's Paradise]]", featured in their second album, ''[[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys COMEBACK!]]''. The song deals with [[Chris]]'s struggle against [[Clyde Cash]] from Clyde's point of view.

==Listen==
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{{Infobox/video
| name = "(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise" (song is at start of video)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|KVrVhoDeXFM}}
| stardate = [[April 2009]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}, {{Trollsicon|text}}, {{Clyde|text}}
| style = {{smug|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
| saga =
| shirt =
| previous = [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys Theme]]
| next = [[CWC Like a Virgin]]
}}

===Lyrics===
[''sung over Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise"'']

As I walk through the valley of wallow and dark shame 
I take a look at my life and I realize there's nothing here 
Cuz I've been blastin' and laughin' so long, that 
Even my [[Barbara Chandler|mama]] thinks that my [[Chris and psychology|mind is gone]]

But I ain't never left my [[computer]], dog gone it 
Me be [[Kick the Autistic|treated like a punk]], I take it out on that guy 
[[Chris and hypocrisy|I have too much stress and free time, I can't enjoy it]] 
I am a stressed homeboy imprisoned in [[lulz]]

A cheap laugh on that guy's lone expense 
As they croak I see myself worse off than that fool 
I'm the kinda 'G' no one gives a cryin' dime to care 
On my knees in the night ''(sped up)'' 
Saying prayers in the LCD light

We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradi~ise 
We been spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise

Look at the situation, they got me facin' 
I can't live a normal life, I was raised by the street 
So I gotta lay it down as [[Clyde Cash|Clyde No-cash]] 
Too much [[Internet]] surfin' got me tauntin' dreams

I'm an stupid 'lil fool with [[Kimmi|fake sex]] on my mind 
Got my mouse in my hand and a [[Semen|soda]]-stained keyboard 
I'm loc'd in [[Punchy|ninja]] ding dang ganger 
I keep my homies not here, so I'm a lonely dope, G 

[[Bob|...eath ai-ain't nothing but a heartbeat away]] 
I'm livin life, yo, do or die, what can I say? 
I'm [[BlueSpike|thirteen]] now, but will I live to see any-MOE?! 
The way things are going I don't know

...me why are why are so blind to see that the ones we hurt are you and me ''(sings 2 times faster)'' 
The... things... we... see... ''(catches up)'' ...hurt are you and me?

We... we...

W-w-we b-been spending most of our lives 
Living in a gang--|trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a grollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise

[[Power]] and no [[money]], money and no power 
Minute after minute, hour after hour 
Everybody's typing, but half of them ain't carin' 
... It's growing on in the kitchen, but I don't know what's hangin'

They gotta learn lame words, learnin' to- er- teach me 
If they can't understand it, how can they reach me 
I guess they can't, I guess they won't 
I guess I front, that's why I know my life is not well spent, G.

We been spending most of our lives 
Living in the trollsta's paradise 
We been spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise 
We keep spending most of our lives 
Living in a trollsta's paradise

Tell me why are we, so blind to see, that the ones we hurt 
Are you and me? ''(pause)'' Tell me why! We are we! 
So blind to see! The ones we hurt! Are you and me! ''(pause)'' 
''(catches up)'' ...ones we hurt are you and me?

==Link to the Song (Song will be posted on YouTube soon enough)==
* [http://pbouns.com/christian_weston_chandler.html Scroll down a bit and it should be there]

{{Hedgehog Boys}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Clyde's Trollsta's Paradise}}
[[Category:Yo! CWC Raps]]
[[Category: Christian and the Hedgehog Boys COMEBACK!]]

Jason Kendrick Howell message

2015-02-23T15:40:48Z

FoxofGrey: Changed "You're laughing now" to "You're laughing dammit" because I thought I heard a sharp "d" vowel in there

The '''Jason Kendrick Howell voicemail message''' was [[Chris]]'s infantile-yet-laconic threat to [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] after the hacking of [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|Sonichu.net]] in [[January 2009]]. In fact, Howell had nothing to do with the site's demise, for the mastermind was [[Clyde Cash|someone]] far more nefarious.

==Context==

On 6 January 2009, [[Gregg Mays E-mails|Gregg Mays contacted Chris]], claiming to be an employee of [[Nintendo]]. Mays said he had been assigned to redesign Sonichu.net as part of the cross-promotion of Sonichu and [[Animal Crossing]].

In fact, Gregg was really [[Clyde Cash]], seeking vengeance for the suicide of his [[Ryan Cash|little brother]] a few weeks earlier. By 8 January, Chris entrusted him with the password to the site, and in no time at all the site was vandalized. Unable to access the site to restore it, Chris accused Gregg of being a troll and changing the password to lock him out of his Tripod account. Gregg claimed he couldn't access the site either, and suggested that he could restore it if Chris reset the password to his account. Chris complied on 10 January, and soon the account was deleted altogether.

Then, on the 12th, Mays declared that he was Jason Kendrick Howell, a.k.a. Liquid Snake, the creator of the Chris-Chan page on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. After taunting Chris and demanding he make videos for his amusement, Cash finally changed his mind on [[Gregg Mays E-mails#January 17, 2009|17 January]], and admitted that he was in fact Clyde Cash all along, and not Jason Kendrick Howell.

Chris ignored this revelation, thinking it was the Jason making up yet another alias. After all, Chris had long considered Howell to be the mastermind behind all of the trolls, while Clyde was new to the scene. Further, Chris sent the ''real'' Jason an angry voice mail, and gloated about this in response to a bewildered Clyde.

Meanwhile, the TRUE AND HONEST Jason Kendrick Howell, unaware of any of this, checked his messages and this was what he got...

==The Message==

{{Infobox/Audiofile
| name = Chris-Chan Calls Jason Kendrick Howell
| audio = {{#ev:youtube|fyNiZpk9AsU}}
| Stardate = January 17, 2009
| Featuring = [[Chris]]; Jason Kendrick Howell's Answering Machine
| Subject = Chris reacts to the hacking of Sonichu.net.
| Saga = [[Image:Clyde_saga.png]] [[Clyde Cash]] Saga [[Image:Miyamoto_saga.png]] [[Miyamoto]] Saga
}}

==Transcript==
[[File:100_2214.JPG|thumb|What he intended to do to Jason]]
''Answering Machine:'' First saved message

Jason Kendrick Howell... 
You BASTARD! 
''BASTARD!'' 
You hacked into everything! You have driven me so [[Chris and English|beyond]] the wall, I can't even describe it! 
You're laughing dammit, but 
{{RageQuote|I PRAY YOU DEAD!}}
Goodbye!

==Alternative Transcriptions==
[[Image:ILLBREAKYOUDEAD.jpg|thumb|Original e-mail with text of Chris's threat to Jason]]
Some argue Chris is actually saying "I'll ''break'' you dead", because the image of Chris going into [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] mode and snapping Jason in half ([[Sign Destruction Video|or rather clumsily attempting to]]) is quite amusing. Jason himself originally transcribed the message with Chris saying "YOU HAPPY NAPPA (?!? no idea)", rather than "You're laughing now". Given his history of [[Speech impediment|communications]] [[Chris and English|problems]], even Chris himself may have had no idea what he was trying to say.

==Legacy==

Chris would attempt to re-establish his Sonichu website several times, only to be hacked and vandalized as before. In time, Chris would view Clyde Cash as the leader of the trolls, shifting his ire away from Jason. Throughout 2009, Chris would produce numerous videos directed at Clyde, threatening him, pleading with him, or challenging him.

The rage expressed in the message would become a familiar refrain in later sagas, as Chris would often cap off a round of trolling by screaming at his camera and uploading the footage to [[YouTube]].

==See also==
*[[Death threats]]
*[[Jason Kendrick Howell]]
*[[Gregg Mays E-mails]]
*[[CWC's Sonichu Site!]]
*[[Chris and Anger]]
*[[IRC (20 January 2009)]], Chris and Clyde's next encounter.
*[[Sonichu 10]], when we actually get to see Chris break someone dead.

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://www.mediafire.com/?7300v5ztrt6oyh0 The audio recording]
*[http://db.tt/TZ56D6xe Audio mirror]
*A Jason Retrospective [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ISr7Fq7EPY Part 1], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9TtPNnyayY Part 2], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LndR1s5jIRQ Part 3], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG_ySvT2Qg4 Part 4], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umvpa89jZRU Part 5], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2-41BQvqU Part 6 (5.2)] Jason's commentary on the early history of Chris-Chan trolling, including his POV on the "I'll BREAK YOU DEAD" message.

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[[Category: CWC-isms]]

April 16 Fetish Vids

2015-02-22T08:03:23Z

FoxofGrey:

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{{Honest}}

[[Image:Ecp00066.jpg|thumb|right|The April 16 Fetish Vids also include a set of photos, showing [[Chris]] wearing [[butt garments|diapers]].]]

The '''April 16 Fetish Vids''' is a set of three videos and a handful of photos, showing [[Christian Weston Chandler]] engaged in different explicit and shocking practices. He made these videos for [[Ivy]]. This content was released by [[The Miscreants]] on 16 [[April 2009]].

==Fanta: Semen Flavor==
===Transcript===

''[Chris appears in his room, dressed in a green bathrobe. [[Mass debating|His hair is disheveled.]]''

This is for my sweetest [[Ivy]]'s eyes only.

''[Chris holds up a small disposable cup made of clear plastic. A thick, white liquid rests in a thin layer along the bottom.]''

Here's some of my, uh, [[Semen|cum]] I just masturborted out.

''[He points at his own semen in the cup and brings it even closer to the camera.]''

'Bout to that much, that's usually a lot.

''[Chris holds a can of Fanta orange soda near the camera. He wears his [[Amnyfest Ring]] on his hand.]]

Couldn't find any [[Obesity|chocolate syrup]], but I have some orange soda.

''[Chris cracks open the can of Fanta. He fills the bottom third of the [[Fapcup]] with soda. He swishes the soda and semen around, with an extremely disquieting smirk on his face.]''

Well... bottoms up!

''[He tilts back his head and drinks the cup of semen and Fanta.]''

There you go, Ivy, orange-flavored cum. Hope you enjoyed that!

===Screen caps===

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* [http://www.slutload.com/video/chrischan-cum-fanta/wMlgfbs9XSDP/ Can be viewed here]
==Spank Dat Ass==
===Transcript===
''[Chris is dressed in a green bathrobe and nothing else. He looks at the camera, kneels on his filthy, [[Yellow is a Mellow Color|yellowed]] mattress and begins spanking himself. He doesn't do a very good job.]''

Oh, I'm sorry for being...

''[spanks self]''

Uh!

''[spanks self]''

Oh!

''[spanks self]''

Yeah!

''[spanks self]''

A bit harder!

''[spanks self]''

Oh, I'm sorry!

''[spanks self]''

Oh [[Ivy]], that smarts!

''[rubs ass]''

Aah.

===Screen caps===

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Image:Spanking1.jpg|SMACK
Image:Spanking2.jpg|DAT
Image:Spanking3.jpg|ASS!!!!
</gallery></center>

* [http://www.slutload.com/video/chrischan-spank-dat-ass/5Cwlpd41eSdO/ Can be viewed here]

==How NOT to take a Shower==

{{quote|C'mon, let's go do it in the bedroom!|Chris, ever classy}}

===Transcript===

''[A [[ShowerClean|disgusting shower]] stall is shown. The grout is black with mildew and there are large blotchy brown stains on the tile. Two rolls of toilet paper appear in the foreground. Suddenly, the giant fat ass of a white male enters the frame.]''

Hey Ivy! May I have this dance?

''[Christian extends his hand towards the shower, which is empty except for mold and fungus. He steps inside, and begins a naked slow dance in his shower. His body is only visible from the chest down and his body is completely shaved. His skin tone is hard to describe due to the lighting but looks unhealthy. His hands are clenched tightly, as if he [[Pedofork|is holding the hands of a small child]]. About 25 seconds in he tries to twirl, and has a hard time turning his body around. He stumbles off-balance and catches himself against the wall. He then holds one arm up like he's twirling his imaginary dance partner. At 50 seconds in he makes a hugging motion and leans forward as if kissing his [[Troll|pretend Internet girlfriend.]]]''

Oh yeah, c'mon, let's go do it in the bedroom. Let's go Ivy. I'll help you.

''[Chris steps out of the tub and walks towards the camera, bringing his tiny, hairless, shrunken genitals extremely close to the camera. He fumbles at the camera for a second and it shuts off.]''

===Screen caps===

<center><gallery>
Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg|DAT GROUT
Image:Assofterror.jpg|In the actual video it jiggles alarmingly.
Image:Goodbyehorses.jpg|Chris shows off his dance moves to the mold and mildew.
Image:Fallingoffbalance.jpg|Chris lightens the mood of an otherwise intensely disturbing moment by almost falling on his face.
Image:Doitinthebedroom.jpg|"Let's do it in the bedroom!"
Image:Thenightmarecontinues.jpg|HA HA HA HA HA!
</gallery></center>

*[http://www.slutload.com/video/chrischan-shower/sW8HU4nybtk6/ Can be viewed here]

==Really? This fetish?==
A set of pictures showing Chris wearing diapers ("nappies" to Britfags), or, as Chris calls them, [[butt garments]].

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Image:Ecp00063.jpg|You can actually see the [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shit stains]]
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</gallery>
</center>

* Download: <s>[http://www.mediafire.com/?ujy9stnezvm]</s> (dead link)

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April 16 Fetish Vids

2015-02-22T08:02:52Z

FoxofGrey: Spank Dat Ass, and "Really? This is a fetish?" are missing. Please somebody get dem videos back

26 December 2014

2015-02-21T13:28:10Z

FoxofGrey: Funny spelling of "Electric Boogaloo" since I saw it on a video (that one where he simulates his encounter with Clyde Cash IRL)

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{{quote|On the way to Sears, I peeked into the [[GameStop]], and I spotted a New Skylander Figure: Blastermind. I was set to buy it, and I was going to consider checking out their [[Nintendo|Wii U]] Preowned Software selection in their 3 for 2 deal. Innocent; I was NOT Looking for Trouble. But then this [[JERKS|MALE]] Loomed out in front of me, frightened the crap out of me, and he said in a BOOMING VOICE that ONLY scared me worse, [[List of places that have banned Chris|"YOU ARE BANNED FROM HERE. YOU NEED TO LEAVE NOW."]] But still determined to continue my shopping, I veered into the Wii U direction, when his female accomplice startled me and boomed in as well. Still feeling frightened and [[Autism|mentally overloaded]], I made a grab for my pepper spray to use In Defense. I offered a few [[Chris and anger|Peaceful]] [[Chris and negotiation|solutions]], but she ended up sending him to go get security. So, I shouted, "Fine! I'm Leaving", and I dropped the figure. And on my way out, I told the MALE to Not Get Anyone, and we both stopped near simultaneous. I still felt my own worse from wear with the fear, startle, paranoia, and I did NOT want him following me and causing more trouble upon me. And then in my defense and to make my escape, I spritzed a miniscule amount of the pepper spray Downward; NOT into his face. And then I left.|Chris's [[Chris and reality|summary of the events]].}}
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[[File:Bluearmsis zpsac2c59f2.jpg|thumb|A [[wikipedia:Orange Is the New Black|hit new]] [[Netflix]] show [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys|rocking]] the [[Ruckersville, VA|nation]]!]]

'''26 December 2014''', a date which will (also) live in infamy, was probably the busiest day in [[Chris]]'s life since he [[Graduation|graduated]], and is essentially [[28 October 2011]] all over again. Chris is [[Chris and the Law|in trouble with the law]] once again for [[Michael Snyder|assaulting staff]] [[The GAMe PLACe|at a video game store]], except this time he upped the ante by using pepper spray on the source of his [[rage]] (Source: [https://eapps.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/criminalDetail.do?formAction=newSearch?ts=1424389574456&clientSearchCounter=3&localFipsCode=003 Virginia general court records]). He is presently being charged by the Albemarle General District Court of Virginia with [http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-312 "Illegal use of tear gas"] a Class 6 felony for which Virginia sentencing guidelines recommend [http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/18.2-10.HTM 1-5 years in prison and a fine of up to $2,500] if convicted. The situation for Chris is worsened by the fact that, unlike his vehicular assault on Mike Snyder in 2011, this time the actual assault was caught on camera and posted to YouTube, where it will surely be available to the state prosecutors.

==Synopsis==
===In GameStop===

[[File:Madman.jpg|thumb|The now infamous photo of Chris, 6 seconds before the assault.]]

Chris's trouble with the law was first brought to the attention of the internet when a Tumblr user named monozettai uploaded a video of Chris spraying a [[GameStop]] [[Manajerks|employee]] with something, later confirmed to be pepper spray, on 26 December<ref name=smokinggun>https://archive.today/ZDHkd</ref>. In the short clip (which can be viewed below) Chris, clad in full [[Tomgirl]] regalia, throws away any [[Trolls#Today|pity points]] he may have earned by breaking three separate laws in one visit to his local GameStop.

Chris, who was already banned from GameStop, went to the outlet at the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|Fashion Square Mall]] with the intention of [[Sonic Boom Protests|vandalizing their ''Sonic Boom'' merchandise]] (staff claimed he'd done this before, which is probably why he was banned in the first place) wearing a pair of [[Chris and fashion|purple sunglasses intended for little girls]] as a "[[Honor roll|disguise]]". Needless to say, he was immediately recognized by staff, who tried to get him to leave. Chris moaned to them about [[Autism|"letting bygones be bygones", so he could vandalize the store's property in peace]]. It's unclear whether Chris managed to do any damage to the ''Sonic Boom'' games before leaving, but he eventually strode out, as seen in the video, commanding the staff "[[Chris and negotiation|Don't call anybody!]]" as if he deserved to be [[Barbara Chandler|shielded from the consequences of his actions]]. It was as he left that he (with no provocation) pepper-sprayed the unfortunate employee, who was later confirmed to be unharmed. The store did not close.

The clip of Chris became a minor viral hit, earning over 100,000 views as of 5 January 2015. It is now one of the most-viewed videos in the CWChronology, next to [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|the 1993 contest video]], [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!]], [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|CWC-Tok]], the [[FUTURE MESSAGE]], and [[CWC's Second Message|Madman Rising]].

===monozettai's Account===
After the video was discovered by Christorians at large on 27 December<ref name=forum/>, many [[weening|weens]] flooded monozettai's inbox with questions on his recollection of the event. This is what he had to say about the incident:

{{quotebox|I was in Gamestop looking at the 3ds rack when I heard a racket from my left. I looked up and saw Chris surrounded by 3-4 employees in a corner (I recognized Chris’ voice before their appearance). A woman was telling Chris that they had been banned from the store and needed to leave, to which Chris responded with something like “Oh come ON, can’t we let bygones be bygones?” The employees ignored him and continued to tell him to leave and threatened to call security. Eventually they dispersed to do so, which is about when I began filming (I had been wondering whether or not I should, but I’d say only about 20 or so seconds had gone by between when I noticed and when I started filming).

 After the video I heard the employees complaining about the use of pepper spray. I didn’t notice it when I initially filmed nor was I ever in the vicinity of the spray, so I can’t confirm anything, but as you can see Chris sprayed something at an employee in the video. I don’t remember seeing that employee around after that so I assume he left. Anyway, a woman buying a game at the counter asked the employee she had been interacting with what had just happened and the employee replied that Chris was “some guy that came in from time to time to mess with the Sonic Boom games because he was upset that Sonic’s arms had changed color, ” or something to that effect. Sadly I did not check to see what happened to the Sonic Boom and only stayed for another 5 minutes or so before leaving, but nothing else of interest happened other than employees running back and forth from the counter to the back room, anxiously talking about contacting security and making sure “he” was gone.<ref name=eyewitness>https://archive.today/GsnsF</ref>}}

===After GameStop===
Most of the sketchy information on what happened in the next hour or so comes exclusively from leaked, low-quality audio from a police scanner, and most details are uncertain. With his duty at GameStop done, and the police on their way, Chris had some sort of encounter with a man in his car in the parking lot (speculated to be an attempted carjacking, or Chris trying to get in the wrong car in a moment of blind panic), who also notified the police. At some point after arriving at the mall and checking JCPenney and Sears, police determined that Chris had left the building around half an hour ago. The police also managed to contact Barbara, who had been eating at the mall with Chris, and had little information to offer, except the make and color of Chris's car (this also marks one of the few times Barb found out what was going on before the trolls did). Clearly, the police didn't catch Chris at the mall, so it is unknown when and where he was caught, but it was most likely the same day. For more details, observers were forced to await Chris's inevitable account on Facebook when he was released on bond, although little else was gleaned from his incoherent rambling (which can be read below), except him meeting the expectation that [[Sub-episodes|he'd twist the tale to make himself look like a noble activist]] so he could get sympathy out of his [[white knights]].

[[File:Dec2014cwcjailphonecall.jpg|thumb|Expert recreation of Chris's first night in the pokey.]]

On 28 December, a member of the [[CWCki Forums]] [[Jail calls|contacted Albemarle Regional Jail]] and confirmed that Chris was being held there, and was awaiting video court the next morning. Assuming Chris was caught on the day he committed his crimes, he had been in jail for two days by this point.

===Aftermath===
[[File:Cwc_arrest_record.png|thumb|left|Chris's court records]]
A followup call from a [[4-cent_garbage.com|4chan]] troll<ref name=forum>https://archive.today/KbrlM</ref> revealed that the employee will be pressing charges, in a development remarkably similar to the events of 28 October 2011. He is presently being charged by the Albemarle General District Court of Virginia with [http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-312 "Illegal use of tear gas"] a Class 6 felony for which Virginia sentencing guidelines recommend [http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/18.2-10.HTM 1-5 years in prison and a fine of up to $2,500] if convicted, along with all the other corresponding losses (most notably his [[tugboat]]) he'd experience as a registered felon.

Interestingly enough, Chris is being charged with the 6th Degree version under the Virginia tear gas law, which the code states is for cases in which the tear gassing was done "unlawfully, but not maliciously". This lesser charge was clearly intended for cases of neglect, negligence or stupidity which resulted in somebody innocent getting tear gassed accidentally; for the cops to book him on the lesser charge suggests that they believe at least some version of Chris's story about "spritzing a miniscule amount downward, NOT into his face" as he fearfully made his escape. Unfortunately for Chris, the video taken of the incident clearly shows him intentionally spraying the employee (who was not obstructing him or offering him resistance) in the upper chest area as he angrily exited the store. This suggests that once the prosecutor gets a look at the video, the charge might be upgraded to the Class 3 felony version of the charge, which carries a much stiffer penalty of 5-20 years and up to a $100,000 fine. A lot will depend upon whether Mr. Herring (the employee he maced) can be proven to have actually been "injured" by the pepper spray, which is an element of both felony charges; if not, Chris will likely be allowed to plea down to misdemeanor-level assault and battery and be given a suspended sentence with probation, counseling, anger management and community service in lieu of jail time.

Whatever he's charged with, Chris is unlikely to receive a lenient sentence this time for a number of reasons. First, he's a repeat offender, which won't look good to the judge. Second, he and his mother are already in [[Chris and money|deep shit financially]], having squandered their inheritance from [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] on hiring [[Rob Bell]] after the incident in 2011, so Chris getting a good representative is out of the question. Chris also cannot bank on his victim asking the court to downgrade the crime from a felony to a misdemeanor, as Michael Snyder did after the 28 October 2011 incident. Given the rousing success of previous attempts by the judicial system to alter Chris' behavior, anything short of rigorously enforced probation and a monitored psychological day program is likely going to result in failure. Worrying, even short term jail stints don't appear to bother Chris all that much anymore, certainly not enough to give him perspective as to why trespassing, vandalism and macing employees in a mall are unacceptable behaviors that society will put him in jail to prevent him from doing.

[[File:ChrisMugshot.jpg|thumb|left|Chris's mugshot. Note that killer pout, and lazy eye.]]

With estimates for Chris's sentence ranging from minor community service to 5 years in prison, everything's up in the air at the moment. There have also been suggestions he may lose his [[Monthly tugboat|tugboat]], perhaps [[14 Branchland Court|his home]], or maybe even become a ward of the state. Considering his very unsound mental state, it is very possible that he will be forced to receive therapy (rather than an evaluation simply to see whether he was a threat to society, like in 2011), something many are [[Chris and psychology|hoping for]].

Consensus among his observers is that the time has come to stop giving Chris leniency. So far, every time he has had to face the consequences of his own actions, he has been let off quite easily. Examples include his parents rushing to his defense (even awakening in the middle of the night to blast trolls on the phone) whenever his actions land him into trouble with anyone, Snyder magnanimously deciding to drop felony charges for Chris after 28 October 2011, and the CWCki Forums, of all people, putting together a care package for him after [[Destruction Of Chris's House|the house fire]]. Moreover, for the duration of [[2014]], Chris's white knights have consistently coddled him, humored his foolish mercantile ventures and fed his already-gigantic ego, and not a single white knight spoke harshly to him, even while condemning his actions, when he got home ''from jail''. This would all be well and good if Chris could recognize that he should be grateful for his narrow escapes, and take measures to avoid landing in situations like this in the first place. However, since Chris is incapable of introspection, it has instead simply gotten to the point that he [[Chris and his Ego|just expects to be bailed out, or otherwise rescued from the consequences of his own actions]].

On 29 December, it was confirmed that Chris had posted the $2500 bail and left jail. Barb was probably the donor, once again abluting Chris of consequences.

On 3 [[January 2015]], an e-mail leaked onto the [[CWCki Forums]] revealed that Chris had behaved in a bellicose manner at [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]] and threatened to use his mace. This was soon afterwards confirmed to be true by Chris himself, and indicated that he wielded the pepper spray because it made him feel like a "badass". This statement worried many onlookers, as it suggests Chris perceives himself as invincible as long he can threaten to mace his antagonists. Chris's notion of his own infallibility and invulnerability has previously been generally confined to the comics, but owing to the ever-growing chasm separating him from reality it may have seeped into his conscious psyche.

Chris's hatred for ''Sonic Boom'' is also escalating horribly even after this, as well. On 30 [[January 2015]], it was revealed that Chris is sending threats of "glitter bombing" to Sega of America headquarters.

All things considered, it's doubtful that Chris will learn anything whatsoever from his impending punishment, however harsh it may be. It will more likely simply resuscitate [[Chris and anger|his old grudge against]] [[Jerkop|police officers]] and [[Manajerks|retail workers]], which in turn will distort his perspective on the real world even further.

===Subsequent court hearings===
After his video hearing on 29 December (which only consisted of the judge setting bail/bond conditions and a date for the next hearing), Chris was released on a bond and promptly took to Facebook to decry this injustice and counter troll speculation, the result of which can be seen below. The following month he revealed in a Facebook post that, in yet another development mirroring 28 October 2011, the judge placed a restraining order on Chris as part of his bail conditions, forbidding him from setting foot in any local GameStop or contacting any of the company's employees.

His next hearing will took place on 5 February. It was decidedly brief as the Chandlers appeared to have hired/been assigned an unsuitable representative, and another hearing in April was scheduled. According to two Christorians in attendance, little of note happened except Chris and Barb forgetting the date of the next hearing, then pissing off the court by coming back to ask (thus holding up their next case). Additionally, footage was taken of Chris and Barb leaving court - marking the first appearance Barb has made in christorical media for almost two years.

== Chris's side of the story ==

{{quote|I WAS the Victim|Chris, meeting everyone's expectations}}

As with the 28 October 2011 incident, Chris just couldn't help but give his own self-serving account of events. Not surprisingly, Chris refuses to admit any fault in the incident - aside from claiming ignorance to the effects of pepper spray, a claim he immediately disproves by admitting that he sprayed ''himself'' with the stuff several days before the incident - and tries to blame the store employees for "intimidating" him, and Sega for changing Sonic's arm color in the first place. Unlike his previous run-in with the law, where he was at least smart enough to only mention the exact details in a personal e-mail to a [[trolls|close friend]], Chris posted this to his [[Facebook]] page for all to see, meaning he's in deep shit if the prosecution sees his (publicly accessible) Facebook. Even his white knights, if not too harsh, seem condemnatory of his actions. It seems that this time around, everyone is against him.

In this illuminating tract, Chris rambles on and on, continually shooting himself in the foot by providing extremely damning information. He proves the above point that he expects to go unpunished for everything by saying he had expected GameStop to ''ignore the fact that he had attacked one of their employees''. Apparently he thinks they should be grateful he didn't stop to mace everyone in sight. He tries to portray himself as the victim, implying that a group of professional game designers who barely know an iota of him were directly responsible for ''his'' actions.

Moreover, the revelation that he was aware of the effects of his weapon of choice, added to the circumstances, seem to show that him pepper-spraying the employee wasn't Chris misinterpreting pepper-spraying as a feminine display of contempt. Consider that the man he targeted was by the door, rather than further inside, and was not advancing towards or threatening Chris in any way. This indicates that this was a deliberate, cowardly act of malice on Chris's part, as he deliberately sprayed the last employee on the way out, when his escape was already assured.

{{quotebox|1=Attention Everyone!!!

To preface what has happened recently, I simply remind everyone that Sonic The Hedgehog's Arms Are Not Freaking Blue!!!

If ‪#‎SEGA‬ had Never changed them, or reversed the change between February and November of this year in the new Sonic Boom video games AND Cartoon Series on Cartoon Network, as well as the Toys and whatever else, I would Never Have Had to Protest and Rebel the way I have, including the creation of my group, [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!]]

Within my groups, I have lead by example to push forward to the path of Waking SEGA Up and Forcing Them to Change Sonic's Arm Colour Back Immediately. And to confess, I HAVE DONE MY PART FOR REAL! I had personally gone into three of the four local GameStops (EXCLUDING the Fashion Square one) THREE TIMES to Personally Protest in my Silent Way. First Attack: I printed, as seen on the Facebook Group, the Fronts of the Sonic Boom Game Inserts, affixed double-sided tape onto the backs, and affixed them onto the fronts of their respective display game boxes on the shelves. Second Attack, about a week later: I checked the success of my first attack: damaged a few original inserts pretty well to full removal. And of what were still there, I made attempts to transfer the inserts from the original cases into Behind the inserts of different games. I've had to briefly explain my reasons and the Protest, and told them that they should NOT BE SELLING THE BLUE_ARM_BANDIT GAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THAT THEY SHOULD SEND ALL OF THEIR REMAINING STOCK OF SONIC BOOM GAMES AND STUFF BACK TO SEGA, TO MAKE THEM CHANGE SONIC'S ARM COLOUR BACK IMMEDIATELY!!! They did nothing. And one last week later, the Third and Final Attack, and the ONE and ONLY time that the Fashion Square Location had been involved as well. I made up and printed faux price tag decals, with the short note to discourage purchase of the Blue Arm Bandit games, and promote the Protesting Boycott. And with the Five Wii U software cases that each melted a bit from the MY House Fire Last January, as well as Five Smoke Damaged 3DS Game Cases (no melting), I had printed a full front, side and back insert with the boycott encouragements, and the notes on the back to make the stores send their remaining stock Back To SEGA!

I Have ran into individuals giving me Bad Grief for my Protest and Actions, OUTSIDE from the Fashion Square Location, but I HAVE done my duty in full to the best of my abilities at the individual moments and circumstances.

I also HAD Hidden ALL of the Blue Armed Sonic Toys at Toys ''R'' Us here, concealed hidden amongst their metal cupboards, so they ALL would NOT be SOLD, and Best Boycotted for The Protest! They remained hidden for the longest time of over a Month; found and reshelved near the 20th of December to my personal dismay and crestfall. And at Best Buy, ALL Copies of THEIR Sonic Boom Games are STILL SUCCESSFULLY CONCEALED AND HIDDEN from View AND Purchase!

Anyhow, AFTER the Final Attack for the Protest, near a week later, on December 8, I had typed, signed, addressed and US Mailed apology letters, with the promise to have been done with my In Person Protest Deeds with No Further Action therein, to ALL but the Fashion Square GameStop, and I had sent one to Toys R Us as well. I had thought the FS GS would overlook the ONE attack of Protest on them, but obviously, I was mistaken.

Which brings us up to now.

Last Friday, the 26th, my mother and I were at the mall, getting pizza and spaghetti for lunch. She had informed me of a good Mini Refrigerator deal at Sears, so after eating, I made my way to check it out. NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED AT SEARS, and I went NOWHERE NEAR JCPENNY that day. There was a good 3.1 Cubic Foot Fridge for $129.99 that caught my eye, but that is to be purchased later.

On the way to Sears, I peeked into the GameStop, and I spotted a New Skylander Figure: Blastermind. I was set to buy it, and I was going to consider checking out their Wii U Preowned Software selection in their 3 for 2 deal. Innocent; I was NOT Looking for Trouble. But then this MALE Loomed out in front of me, frightened the crap out of me, and he said in a BOOMING VOICE that ONLY scared me worse, "YOU ARE BANNED FROM HERE. YOU NEED TO LEAVE NOW." But still determined to continue my shopping, I veered into the Wii U direction, when his female accomplice startled me and boomed in as well. Still feeling frightened and mentally overloaded, I made a grab for my pepper spray to use In Defense. I offered a few Peaceful solutions, but she ended up sending him to go get security. So, I shouted, "Fine! I'm Leaving", and I dropped the figure. And on my way out, I told the MALE to Not Get Anyone, and we both stopped near simultaneous. I still felt my own worse from wear with the fear, startle, paranoia, and I did NOT want him following me and causing more trouble upon me. And then in my defense and to make my escape, I spritzed a miniscule amount of the pepper spray Downward; NOT into his face. And then I left.

I did not learn until much later that the spritz had done a lot worse than I had imagined it would, as well as learning that they were the so-called "Manager" and "Ass Manager" of that particular store.

I had No Idea of the contents of the Pepper Spray, OR that it was Illegal for use in certain situations in the state of Virginia at all.

And, I HAD tried the stuff on myself days before in the upstairs bathroom. A Two Second Spray onto my left wrist, some of it got onto the bath tub wall as well. Like sampling a perfume or deodorant. It Took Me Out damn well. I had to open the windows, turn on the bathroom fan AND aim the box fan into the bathroom to air the place out, and I wiped the wall off as well, and OF COURSE I washed my hands. It took fifteen to thirty minutes to make it bearable in there again.

In the end, Yes, I went along peacefully when the "Police" arrived to collect me, and I had to spend a miserable weekend in Jail. And I just got out on a bond and bail; yada, yada, yada.

In the END, I WAS the Victim; I did not cause the original provoking; The "Assistant Manager" Made the First Attack ONTO ME and Provoked my defensive response. I was Minding My Own Business; NOT Looking for Trouble, and then HE Startled Me, similar to a potential Rapist in a Dark Alley in a big city. ANY of you would have done the same as I Have in Defense AND Escape!

And we can SUE SEGA for Changing Sonic's Arm Colour and Ultimately, this MALE getting Pepper Sprayed! Think About It Seriously!

And my Protest Actions are NOT acts of "Vandalism", regardless of your individual perceptions. It was NOT Vandalism, but Good Protest when in around 2004, At Fashion Square, I tried their NEW Soda machines with a credit-debit card slot, and then I learned of the FIVE DOLLAR SURCHARGE that brought my bank account into the Freaking Red! I subtly Posted Sticky Note Signs onto each machine shortly after, "This Machine Charges You Five Dollars per Card Use". A few days later, the Original Machines returned! Nobody gave ME Any Freaking Grief or Complaints at all about that!

AND if you REALLY want to see the Whole Mess Happen, go find the Security Tape of the time of Point A, my finding Blastermind to Point B of my departure from the store.

Now, if you will excuse me, I have a LOT of much required Packing to Take Care Of.

Good Day. <ref name=Chris>https://archive.today/HQknP</ref>}}

== Chris's side of the story 2: Eclectic Boogaloo ==

On, January 11th, Chris posted the following to his [[Facebook]] account, in which he once again paints himself as the victim and wishes that people could like him, even barring all of his other actions from the past. He also says that ''nobody should be banned from a store unless they are carrying a gun''.

{{quotebox|Just Listen; Do Not Comment or Respond; I am being Very Serious.
I Really Wish People would Positively Like Me. I can not make people like me, and if they dislike me, for their own individual reasons beyond my own comprehension.

I can not change their minds. But, to my utmost dismay and sadness, should I be threatened, or be made to feel threatened, I Will defend myself to force some respect from them.
All I would ever want is a good day and some peace of my own mind; I do not intend, nor have ever intended, unprovoked, to offend anyone.
And if my good day is turned bad, because of me feeling threatened by anyone, and then I feel those individuals immediately deserve to have a bad day themselves (and continue living on from there),
then it is Their Fault for pushing me into the defensive position in the first place.
It really does make me feel sad and most disappointed of the other people when they give me such grief to the point that I have to be put into a position to force some respect out of them.

And I have been growing more paranoid of Other People since November of 2007 with the damn bad people over the internet,
as well as those I have had the displeasure to have encountered in person who have shown me nothing but a difficult time and even more grief.

Also, I sincerely believe nothing would ever be gained from killing anyone, including myself; all that does is forces one or the other into their next realm or life;
Nobody really Learns or really Benefits anything from the deaths of any person. That is why I would never own, or want to own, a real gun.
"Look out, she's going for her mace!"
"What? Would you rather I have a gun with bullets in it?"

And that is another thing everyone Should be Aware of: I AM A FEMALE SOUL, and I Prefer to be referred to by the Female Pronouns. Any address of "Sir", or "Man" upon me, will only be met by a cold shoulder or stare in their general direction.

And NOBODY should ever be BANNED from a high-volume store like Wal-Mart or Target for anything less offensive than a gun withdrawl or robbery. We All Have Bad Days, and unless we actually Hit a Person or living individual or similar actions, in how we individually react to how we are feeling at the ONE Moment, aside from the other Individual Moments, To Ban an individual is just plain wrong.

And acts of protests with JUST Meanings, do not deserve any damn grief either.

Just Let Me Live On In Peace, Let Me enjoy my Good Day and Pleasant Shoppings and Outings, and DO NOT BOTHER ME AT ALL. I have No Intention Whatsoever to harm Any Individual Person or Myself. So, Please, Do Not Give Me Reason to be Forced to Defend Myself to garner any respect. All that does is give us all a Bad Day from a Good One.

Good Day. }}

== Screenshots ==
<gallery>
File:ChrisGameStopShort.png|The listing of his court hearing.
File:ChrisGameStopFull.png|The full details.
File:Chris%27AssaultAccount.png|Chris's violently insane version of the incident.
File:ChrisMugshot.jpg|Chris's distinctly [[Tomgirl Saga|unfeminine]] mugshot.
File:PROTESTING_SANIC_BUM.jpg|The defacement Chris intended to wreak.
</gallery>
== Fan Art ==
<gallery>
File:Goofytime PTSD Employ2.jpg|Retail employees will now have Chris haunting their nightmares.
File:Tomgrrllyfe.jpg|Chris after life on the inside.
File:Chris-chan as the Pepper Spray Cop.jpg|Don't call anybody!
File:Chris's strut.png|Fighting the law requires fashion!
File:Chris_in_court.jpeg| Meanwhile at Chris's trial...
</gallery>

== Video ==
{{tardrage}}
{{Infobox/video
| name = Chris Chan maces a GameStop employee
| video = {{#ev:youtube|yJkjjpFM97w}}
| stardate = 27 [[December 2014]]
| subject = {{Video games|text}}; {{Other|[[Sonic Boom Protests]]}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}, {{Violence|text}}
| saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}
| shirt = Manchester Sweatshirt
| previous = [[Brushfire Video]]
| next = [[Documentary]]
}}
=== Transcript ===
[''A beep, most likely from the checkout machine, is heard as Chris walks near the camera. He blows a raspberry, presumably at monozettai, for a nanosecond as he passes the camera'']

'''Chris''': Don't call anybody!

[''Chris struts confidently towards the store entrance. Unintelligible background noise from other customers can be heard, and a family at the counter can be seen in shock at the creepy man they just witnessed.'']

'''Employee 1''': [''to customer at register''] 22-10. [''laughs'']

[''Chris sprays a yellow-shirted employee with pepper spray, who quickly backs up in self-defense.'']

'''Employee 2''': Whoa! Hey! [''mouths "what the fuck"'']

== Police Scanner Video ==
{{Infobox/video
| name = Police scanner
| video = {{#ev:youtube|pk-Oa8BinxE}}
| stardate = 27 [[December 2014]]
| subject = {{Video games|text}}; {{Other|[[Sonic Boom Protests]]}}
}}

===Transcript===
{{Transcription}}
{{Incomplete}}
[''The entire audio is messy, grainy and hard to hear. If there are any inaccuracies in the audio, please feel free to help.'']

'''0:00'''

'''Old cop:''' APC RP 5-7, APC--[''mumbling'']

'''Rookie:''' I'll cover it.

'''Cool cop:''' Stay there.

'''Old cop:''' He's at Fashion Square Mall. I'll get him. He's not in Shoppers World. I'm probably gonna pull up in the community and park the car. ''(CUTS OUT)'' and then...I'll go...check the car. He is described as a ''([[Stress sigh|sighs]])'' white male, 5-foot 9, with long brown hair. He was wearing two sets of glasses and [[Plush Breasts|fake breasts]]. ''(Someone in the background says "what the hell?")'' The name is supposed to be "Christopher Chandler".

'''1:00'''

'''Rural cop:''' I'll go and do it. I'm on location.

'''?:''' Okay.

'''?:''' Doin' okay.

'''?:''' Thank you, Ethan.

'''?:''' No problem.

'''?:''' Uhh... I'll be looking for seven, I'll probably be in that ''???'' mall for a little bit. Three-nine can just run it.

'''?:''' Fine, Arthur. Three-nine, you got... Yeah. He can just route a call from our phone. Okay.

'''?:''' Uh, have you sent out that thing from here, ''?????'' Thirty-nine can just draw it.

'''?:''' Uh, ''????'' and ''?????''

'''?:''' Roger.

'''2:00'''

''(SILENCE)''

'''2:26'''

'''Mike:''' ''?????''

'''Woman:''' Thank you, Mike.

'''2:32'''

''(SILENCE)''

'''3:23'''

'''?:''' Seven-six APC.

'''?:''' Copy, seven-six.

'''Rural cop:''' Someone here at the mall with ''???'' Chandler. A long time here. Trespass. Banned from the mall.

'''?:''' ''????'' uh, you got ''??????''

'''4:00'''

'''Old cop:''' APC RP five-seven.

'''Rookie:''' Copy.

'''?:''' Uh, ''?????''

'''Rookie:''' That's correct.

'''Old cop:''' APC RP five-seven. ''(PAUSE) ?????'' seven-six

'''4:45'''

''(SILENCE)''

'''5:14'''

'''Ethan:''' ''???'' before seven APC

'''?:''' ''?????''

'''Ethan:''' Could I have the report number please?

'''?:''' Ethan, your number's 10725. Ten seven two five. ''(PAUSE) careful??????''

'''Ethan:''' ''????'' three units.

'''?:''' Sir, can you get me the report number ''????????''

'''?:''' ''?????'', you have, uh, 10726. Ten seven two six.

'''6:09'''

''(SILENCE)''

'''7:00'''

'''?:''' APC ''?????''

'''Woman:''' ''?????''

'''Old cop:''' ''?????'' car ''???????????????'' in the area ''????'' might have come from a house ''?????'' I'll check the ''book????''

==Fan Videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Dramatic Reading of Chris' Facebook Post
| video = {{#ev:youtube|1mNy4oamILA}}
| maker = [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7EpM9PXIn3bTIlJYiP1xWg BrendanielReads]
| stardate = 29 [[December 2014]]}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris Fought the Law
| video = {{#ev:youtube|M2cKgb9xU2o}}
| stardate = 30 [[December 2014]]
| maker = FavoretFox
| subject = 26 December 2014
| type = [[Parody]] of The Crickets' "I Fought the Law"}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Tyrone Declares Chris Chan's Innocence
| video = {{#ev:youtube|0A2p_OgkZw0}}
| stardate = 17 [[January 2015]]
| maker = Based Tyrone
| subject = 26 December 2014}}

== See also ==
* [[Chris and the Law]]
* [[GameStop]]
* [[Jail calls]]
* [[Sonic Boom Protests]]
* [[28 October 2011]]

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2014]]
[[Category:Events]]
[[Category:Eyewitness Accounts]]

Talk:Vivian Gee

2015-02-21T10:04:18Z

FoxofGrey: New Topic

== From the original CWCki ==

What can be made of this:

"''HOLY SHIT SPOILER ALERT CLYDE CASH AND VIVIAN G ARE THE SAME PERSON''

''Vivian Gee/Clyde Cash are two identities of a mysterious figure in Alaska who has been trolling CWC since at least August 2007 when the /v/ board of 4chan first found him. No one is sure of the true identity behind the legends, but one thing is certain: He/She is clearly insane as a result of such a lengthy tour of duty as the one he/she has put themselves through. Evidence of this is his/her recent inability to speak/type softly, much like BILLY MAYS! But we still love him/her regardless.'' "

--[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 11:36, 16 February 2009 (CET)
* Maybe all the other trolls, ''and'' Chris are all one and the same person, and we're all trolling YOU! (No srsly, way to go claiming something without any citation ^^) [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 20:22, 26 February 2009 (CET)
:* That was actually cuntpasted from the original CWCki. Anyway, here's the sauce. [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/CWCki/index.php/Trolls/VivianG] --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 02:26, 27 February 2009 (CET)
::* Yeah, but that's a wiki that anyone can edit... [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 11:00, 27 February 2009 (CET)
:::* True. Still, an interesting conclusion for that writer to come to nonetheless... --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 13:30, 2 March 2009 (CET)
::::* Proof? [http://sonichugirls.yuku.com/topic/120/t/I-Clyde-Cash-have-revealed-the-truth-behind-SonichuGirls.html] --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 04:23, 21 March 2009 (CET)
:::::* Why the fuck would I be Vivian Gee? Just cuz I'm her cousin doesn't mean I am her. Cough. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 05:38, 28 April 2009 (CEST)
::::::* Vivian si a pretty cool guy, seh makes funny videos and doesn't afraid of anything. [[User:Protrap2k9|Protrap2k9]] 12:16, 28 May 2009 (CEST)
:Why don't we just get rid of the old CWCki? It's a waste of space, and attracts a lot of vandals due to being open. There may be so me copypasta that's linked to on there, but we could easily just add that to the real cwcki. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 18:18, 12 October 2009 (CEST)
:*The old CWCki is still out there? Why are we keeping this around? let's get rid of it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:07, 13 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Historical reasons, I imagine, not to mention it's not really taking too much space as there's only a dozen articles on there. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:42, 14 October 2009 (CEST)

* Vivian and Clyde have the worst relationship I could possibly image. Even worse than Kacey and Chris. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:38, 15 November 2009 (CET)

==E-mails==
The e-mails are great but I think they can really belong in their own article, I think they detract from the article about Vivian Gee. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:28, 29 May 2009 (CEST)

== Pictures ==

Where did the two pictures Vivian made of herself go? Were they removed on purpose? I can add them again if they were removed on accident. --[[User:Lime|Lime]] ([[User_talk:Lime|Scold?]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lime|Undo?]]) 04:59, 31 May 2009 (CEST)
:I...created a TIME PARADOXXXXXXXXXXXX DON'T MESS WITH THE PICTURES YOU'LL CHANGE THE FUT [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:16, 11 July 2009 (CEST)
::Clyde is silly. Seriously, if Vivian was so concerned about time paradoxes, she'd remove them from her DeviantArt page, now wouldn't she? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:17, 11 July 2009 (CEST)
::: The pictures sucked, anyways. --[[User:Rafaal|Rafaal]] 21:00, 1 September 2009 (CEST)
::::* I can confirm that I have talked to Vivian and she approves of the pictures, saying they make her look "hot."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 1 September 2009 (CEST)

== Should we post stuff like that? ==

As in: recent edits here explaining the situation? Isn't Chris watching CWCki? --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:45, 4 October 2009 (CEST)
:I don't think so, but I could be wrong. We're pretty sure he knows Cogs has other sites, but I don't think he knows *what* they are. However, (as much as I hate to overestimate Chris's intelligence) there evidence is out there if he does some digging through his logs. I would '''''highly''''' recommend relocating non-[[CWCkipedia]] stuff elsewhere. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 18:07, 12 October 2009 (CEST)

== Leaving? ==

So she's going to be gone for a month? Hm. Any idea where she's going?

(If we don't hear from her in a month, should we send Link?) - [[User:Larrykoopa13|larrykoopa13]] 3:52, 4 October 2009 (CST)

*She's back (YAY!!!). [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:42, 23 October 2009 (CEST)

*That was quick. (Too bad, Link. No bombing dodongos for you.) - [[User:Larrykoopa13|larrykoopa13]] 4:11, 35 October 2009 (CST)

== Redirect ==
So, [[vivian]] redirects to this article, but when I search vivian, I get a list of mentions? I though Wiki's were supposed to favor pages over lists, even if it is a redirect page. I'm pretty sure most people navigate using the search function rather than the address bar, even when they know the page title. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 18:18, 12 October 2009 (CEST)

== Vivian Gee's Videos and channel? ==
So does anybody have some of her videos saved somewhere to post here on the CWCki?

Vivian Gee

2015-02-21T10:01:43Z

FoxofGrey: We need somebody to restore some of Vivian Gee's videos considering her channel is taken down

{{Deletedvideo}}

{{quote|Vivian Gee is a [[Gal-Pal]]; Please Relocate the link(s) to her page as such.|Chris in the [[CWC Blog]] 14 March 2010}}

{{quote|hopefully chris will just stop. seriously|Vivian, responding to comments on the ''Sonichu'' [[audiobooks]].}}

[[image:Vivian.jpg|thumb|A [[TRUE and HONEST]] photograph of Vivian.]]

'''Vivian Gee''' (born [[Wikipedia:Bastille_Day|14 July]] 1987, a [[Metal Gear Solid|TRUE FRENCH PATRIOT]]) is the creator of the ''[[Sonichu]]'' [[audiobooks]] and other [[Chris]]-related videos and cousin to [[Clyde Cash]].

She is also the owner of '''Hamsty the Hamster''', a video-posting plush hamster that has already managed to kill itself several times over Chris's wonderful effects on the psyche. Since 30 [[May 2010]] Hamsty is the new owner of [[CWCipedia]], and thus of ''[[Sonichu]]''.

==Contact with Chris==
[[Image:Vivi profile 8 by viviG.jpg|thumb|If you think this was Vivian, '''THINK AGAIN!''']]
Vivian, ironically, was probably Chris's only serious Internet "friend". While that might be taking it a little far, she's tried to genuinely help him. However, despite all the warnings of imminent doom, Chris ignored her regularly, and proceeded to fail spectacularly. Vivian has apparently toned down the [[white knight]] antics, and has realized Chris is a [[Autism|retard]] who ''cannot improve''. [[Vivian_Gee_E-mails|Several e-mails]] have been recovered so far. Most are simply Vivian saying "JESUS, STOP BEING A FUCKTARD!!" and real advice. Chris wasn't interested until it involved his Internet [[gal-pals]] or ''[[Sonichu]]''. She once [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|talked to Chris for three hours]] to convince him to get help, with no success; in her words, talking some damn sense into Chris is "like fighting a wall."

Some time later, Vivian gave Chris a copy of [[A Girl Who Brought Down the World|a novel]] she had written. Chris, however, most likely did not read it, as he mentioned that the cover "was nice" and was worried he was being charged for it. Had he actually sat down and read it, however, he would have probably seen some incredible similarities between the characters and settings of that story and [[CWCville|his own world]].

In [[September 2009]], [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 4th, 2009|a Captain's Log video]] was addressed specifically to Vivian, with Chris demanding that she close her [[YouTube]] account AND delete all the videos, "if she wants to earn back his trust" after she and [[Clyde Cash]], her cousin, had done "so much bad against him." It was soon followed by a [[Sign Destruction Video|violent death-threat video]] by Chris against Vivian, threatening to brutally dismember her and all of her family members, in which he expressed his hope that it would make her understand "the fury of [[Chris and anger|his wrath]]."

In a [[Captain's Log]] written on the [[CWCipedia]] on 14 March 2010, Vivian G.'s page is one of many listed in Chris's collection of those that are demanded to be altered after the discovery of [[The Wallflower]]'s page, completely and utterly unaware of Vivian's true nature.<ref>[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4015 Captain's Log, Stardate March 14, 2010]</ref>

Vivian also sent [[Bob]] a gift for his 82nd birthday (4 September 2009), when his own autistic son forgot.<ref>[[Kacey Call 10]]</ref>

As of May 2012, Vivian has apparently gone the way of [[Liquid Chris]], and shut down her Youtube account and moved to a new Deviantart account.

==Extortion by Chris==
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|Apologies, Mafioso-style.]]
After weeks of tension, the relationship between Chris and Vivian started to relax a little, and on 14 [[November 2009]] Chris extended an olive branch of peace. He [[Chris and remorse|excused himself]] for his lamentable attitude and decided to approve the audiobooks, in return for a cut of the proceeds. Chris, feeling smug after receiving some [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|papers from the state of Virginia]], felt the need to pressure Vivian out of her hard-earned money. He's thinking that asking for 25% of all the donations for the audiobooks should be used to support his already [[Monthly tugboat|lavish]] [[Chris and money|lifestyle]]. Vivian kindly [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cf2UM76sDU answered negatively] to the offer on her YouTube account via her spokes-"person".

==Emails (TL;DR)==
{{main|Vivian Gee E-mails, 2007-2008|Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee E-mails, 2010}}

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:Vivi profile posthalloween by viviG.png|Self-portrait from dA.
image:2nd Background.PNG|October 8 image.
Image:Chris rages yet again.png|It ain't law-breaking, bro.
Image:YouDieTodayBitch.PNG|[[How to Talk to Girls|Chris sure knows how to talk to girls.]]
</gallery></center>

==See also==
* [[Audiobooks]]
* [[Rollin' and Trollin']] - The name of CWCville's bar was "Vivian's".

== Sources ==
<references/>

==External links==

----
*<s>[http://www.youtube.com/user/vivitheg?blend=1 Vivitheg's YouTube channel]</s> - Closed down as of May 2012.
*[http://vivig.deviantart.com/ Vivian Gee's deviantART account]

{{People}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Gee, Vivian}}
[[Category:Gal pals]]
[[Category:Trolls]]

Talk:Main Page

2015-02-13T07:41:22Z

FoxofGrey: Article of the Now

{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates. For other questions, please use the [http://www.cwckiforums.com/ CWCki forum].}}

'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]] [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|2]]
==Make a new Saga?==
Even though Chris has been less active over the less couple of years, he has recently (since early March) been giving infomation about what has been happening over the last couple of years. I think we should call this a new Saga "Revalation" Saga. [[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 3:40, 14 September 2013 (EST)

==Note==
Flipnote Hatena will be shutting down May 31, 2013. Also chris 2013 article needs updating.

==Did you know..==
Some of the "Did you knows" sound really over-opinionated and A-loggy next to the A-log article of the now.

Ex. "...that Chris is a disgusting human being?", "That Chris cannot dance", I also have a personal gripe with, "...that Chris was born on 24 February, the same day the Nazi party was founded?", as it associates CWC with Nazis. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 10:18, 16 December 2012 (PST)

==ohinternet==
Should we include a da update about ED and ohinternet considering their past relationship? [[Supersheep|Supersheep]] 23:38, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

*Ironically, I vote this for today. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 15:11, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT)

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*I personally would have Da Update be first but Clyde insists that the PSN Tracker is more important. Take your complaints to him.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:11, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011

== Remove the PSN tracker ==

Srsly. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:58, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Or put it under the update section. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:41, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

==TOMGIRL.PNG==
May I suggest a recoloring of the hair blonde? --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 09:31, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Liquid Chris Article ==
The whole "MOTHERLAND CALLS!" template has been up on the [[Liquid Chris]] page for a while, even before I became a member here. Has the article been fixed, or is it still in need of refurbishing? -- [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 22:09, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:Why are you asking this here? Try [[Talk:Liquid Chris]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:22, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:: The reason I asked here was because nobody has added anything new the article since March (ignoring a recent edit-revert), and nobody has done anything with the talk page since last September. I was just wondering if this should be the Improvement Project of the Now if it's gone nowhere for a while. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:09, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

== An error in dating? ==

Today's "''This day in Christory''" features [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|a video from February 5th, 2009]], but today is ''June 5th''. Is this intentional? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 10:37, 5 June 2011 (PDT)
*The video was from 5 Feb, but his CChanSonichu account was indeed hacked on 5 June. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:52, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

== Kim ==
Have we pulled a Wallflower on Kim? If not why doesn't she have a page, any information on her other than in passing, emails, phone calls, etc? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 21:45, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

==Just for you==
I while ago I figured out the code for making youtube audio play in the background based on ED's code for it. I just forgot to share it with you. Its a nice touch for user pages, but I wouldn't recommend them for Cwcki articles.

ev:youtube|'''(The Stuff After watch?v=)'''&autoplay=1&loop=1&start=1" height="1" width="1" fposition="left" frame="false"

except add '''{{#''' at the beginning and '''}}''' at the end, and lose the '''(''' ''')''' parenthese

Sorry if its confusing, ask [[User:freecell|freecell]] if you need help, he or she uses it too.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 20:01, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

==No detective needed==
Okay, you don't have to be a fucking detective to tell that [[User:Youdonttellmewhattodo|Youdonttellmewhattodo]], [[User:Nothingyouneedknow|Nothingyouneedknow]], [[User:GodoftheGodsofgod|GodoftheGodsofgod]] are the same fucking person seeing as all three accounts were made four minutes between each and they've been posting stupid shit, complimenting Chris, and blanking pages. It's an idiot, troll, or hell possibly Chris. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 11:34, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
:I don't think they're the same people. And I checked for some of them, they're not Chris. I don't remember specifically though and I'm kind of too lazy to check again. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:53, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
::Ok, sat down and checked those three again. Not Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:58, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

==New videos==
Chris just posted a couple of new videos and from the looks of it, relating to that forum that he's been posting on. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 11:27, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
*Two more videos have gone up. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:38, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
* I just posted the update but there still aren't any pages about the videos. I would but I'm really goddamn tired and I feel like shit. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:41, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
** It's cool, they'll get made eventually, and I can't wait, to be honest, I missed the shinagins that Chris provided in his videos. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:49, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Earthquake ==

Think CWC was affected by the 5.9 earthquake in Virgina at 2PM?--[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 11:17, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:If he was, I'm sure we'll be updated. Until then, there's no way we could know. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:21, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

:Unless a big box of Barb's Salvation Army finds crushed him.--[[User:Shefap|Shefap]] 12:27, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:* There's a website [http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/se/082311a/us/index.html] that will tell you where people in VA are saying they felt shaking. Around where Chris lives, there were reports of little-to-no shaking felt and no damage reported. He probably heard about the earthquake, but they probably felt nothing more than a vibration. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:05, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

== Article of the now. ==

shouldnt the Article of the now be Bob chandler? -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 12:50, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
:Indeed, I think Bob's bio should be article of the now until Chris uploads his next video. Then the article of the now should be changed into [[Chris and death]], as the most important thing about the next vid will be a demonstration of how Chris reacts (if he does react at all) to the death of a parent.
::Done, hope I did it right. -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 14:12, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
::*In the future, please refer discuss the Article of the now on its [[Talk:Article of the now|talk page]].

==Bob CWCki logo==
I found [[:File:BobCWCkiLogo.jpg|this gem]] we used ages ago for Bob's birthday, would it be in poor taste to post it in place of the current logo, for a while? Or perhaps someone could modify it to reflect his passing? I ask because I don't want to horribly offend people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
*I second this, but not for too long. --[[User:MissMeg|Mary Lee Walsh | All hail the dean!]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
*It would have been appropriate for down time, maybe as a 404 message, but now that he's passed on, it is a bit distasteful. It would have been even more offensive if you planned to do this 5 days after his death. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 16:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

== Chris' family tree. ==

We should expand on Chris family lineage, because Barbara's father died in an unusual way.

J.O. WESTON, OF RED OAK IS KILLED
Joseph Otto Weston, 58, a farmer, was killed late Friday when he apparently fell from his horse drawn wagon on a rural road near Red Oak Charlotte County.
Weston, of Red Oak, was hauling wood. Apparently he fell from the wagon and under a rear wheel.
His body was discovered after the driverless horse and wagon turned up at a nearby service station.
Dr. P.H. Winston, of Clarksville, medical examiner, said death was caused by a broken neck.
Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Carrie Winn Weston; five daughters, Mrs. Wilborne Bourne, of Richmond, and Mrs. Edward Carey and Misses Barbara Ann, Mabel and Harriet Weston, of Red Oak; three sons, William S. Weston, with the Navy at Norfolk, and DeRoy Lewis and Curtis Wayne Weston, of Red Oak; three brothers, Alfred Weston, of Chase City, and Daniel and Roy Weston, of Red Oak; one sister, Mrs. Mabel M. Blacklidge of Richmond, and one grandchild.
A funeral service was held at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at Antioch Baptist Church.
(Source: The Charlotte Gazette, Drakes Branch, VA, Thursday, April 14, 1955 Submitted by: Bea. Adams King)

http://genealogytrails.com/vir/charlotte/obits_w.html

This is the same Joesph Otto Weston that in mentioned in that Family tree.

== Edit-hiding ==

What's going on with all the edit-hiding? --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 10:49, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:I try to use the feature sparingly, but basically it's for the protection of users. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 6 November 2011 (PST)

== Stop this ==

The article of now has had bob plastered on it for 2 months, it's getting old so I decided to put an underrated sonichu character onto it and don't whine to me about it being disrespectful to bob, fuck bob! --[[User:cj|cj]]
*Personally, I think Jiggliami can eat a dick. Anyways, if you really felt that we needed a new article, you could have done something that made sense like, oh I don't know, [[28 October 2011]], instead of a character that has no relevance to what is happening in Chris's life at the moment. It's not that you're being disrespectful, it's just that you need to act a little more professionally on this site, even if it is a wiki devoted to an autistic manchild. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 10:31, 10 November 2011 (PST)

== what is this? ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt-gfkWu8Bc&feature=channel_video_title

Apparently this might be chris --[[User:The0range|The0range]]
*One, sign your comments. Two, this person claims they talked to a channel called "HuaYifu" and that this person was Chris. All you would have had to do is looked at HuaYifu's channel and you would have realized this wasn't Chris. This person has NOTHING uploaded on their channel that Chris would have done, never claims to be Chris, and never talks about Sonichu or Rosechu (which would have happened if it was Chris). This is NOT Chris. I'm not even sure how these messages came to be unless HuaYifu is trolling the owner of this video... or they both were in on it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:47, 10 December 2011 (PST)

But why is the uploader of the video so convinced it's him though? It seem so obvious that it's not him that there might be more to it... --[[User:The0range|The0range]]

==Proper usage of words where time is concerned==

I have noticed that there are many pages that refer to "a recent video" or use similar assumptive language with regards to time. We should refrain from this type of language as the cwciki, and those pages, will be around long after the word "recent" fails to apply. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:35, 15 December 2011 (PST)
:I've said exactly the same thing. I change it when I see it, but it seems people take for granted that other people actually have to fix their shit. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 11:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)

== STOP FORCASTING ! ==

Ok i understand the desire to keep every page up to date but STOP FORCASTING! Do not enter anything into the wiki that WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED at a later date. Don't put on barbs page that she has an upcoming court date, because that will have to be changed after that date happens. PLEASE dont make work for yourself and others.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:47, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Actually, I think that one's fine because it's an article that will inevitably have to be updated. The main issue arises on articles like videos, because post-fact people will be paying attention to other things. "Current" articles have to be rewritten all the time. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:52, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Event forecasting is fine on a Wiki when further information is expected within a reasonable timeframe. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:: i understand that if its on an active page then its fine, but when the forcasting is put on other pages it becomes a correctin issue. Its much better to just link to the appropriate pages and not speculate. Let the active pages do the talking while the historic data stays historic. In other words October 28th 2011 is currently the central location for court info. other pages dont need specifics until we know what the outcome is.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:41, 16 December 2011 (PST)

== Current Events ==

There aren't ant current events on the current events page. '''So either we need to get rid of it''', or we need to put 'current events' in our 'current events' so we can have 'current events' when we read the 'current events' -xzibit [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:09, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== Am i the only one who thinks there should be a second 'da update' type thing for significantly less important shit? ==

I'm not saying I demand this to happen, but it seems like it would be more convenient than checking recent changes for something that might possibly be new information. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 20:34, 29 January 2012 (PST)
: While that's an interesting idea... anything that's "new information" is usually in da update. Anything else is usually something small, not confirmed 100%, or almost insignificant. I suppose we could have something small...but it would be getting updated quite a bit. At the moment, I think "recent changes" is probably a lot like another, smaller, da update would be... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:03, 29 January 2012 (PST)

== Birthday Suprise ==

Chris will be turning 30 this year and that is going to have an effect on the wiki. There are places where phrases like "Even now in his late twenties" are used. This type of language is going to become outdated. Words like "twenties" "20s" and specific ages as in "at 28 years old, Chris still lives at home" will all eventually have to be changed. CARE MUST BE TAKEN when writing about time. Remember EVERYTHING is past tense and you have to assume that the reader is reading the information 10 years from now. I have mentioned time before but the whole 'turning 30' thing needs to be addressed separately.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:00, 2 February 2012 (PST)
*here is an example "There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a man that is almost thirty years old and has autism should live at home with his parents, specially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be." - This will need changing. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:16, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:[[Wikipedia:WP:SOFIXIT|So fix it]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:55, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:*Or as we like to say here on the CWCki, [[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT FAGGOT]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:30, 3 February 2012 (PST)
::*i am fixing what i see, just wanted others to be aware.[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:22, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Revised idea ==

Maybe there should be a {{Timeline}} below "da update" on the main page, that would be pretty handy.--[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 12:16, 5 February 2012 (PST)

That sounds like a good idea to me. [[user:poppybrolll|-~Poppybrolll~-]] 9:23, 11 February 2012 (PST)
*Sounds like a good idea to me too... i would suggest letting someone higher up the chain add it though. We just dealt with some front page vandalism (that was kinda funny BTW) but i think its a great idea [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:04, 17 February 2012 (PST)

== This is what chris actually believes ==

I notice this phrase attached to pictures all over the wiki. Some of the pictures are references to Chris believing that he has some sort of chance to get laid. But many are just derogatory and rude. There are times that we KNOW what Chris believes because he tells us but many times the pictures are misleading or speculative. example: the pic on the page [[Caitlin]] is an assumption and has no basis in truth. There are many examples of picture captions being downright rude and defamatory. I think its clear that none of us can stand Chris, but we should be more careful about that coming out in the wiki. The facts please, just the facts...[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:45, 29 February 2012 (PST) oops

: I [[CWCki:Policy#De-memeing the CWCki|concur]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

== Another Quote of the Now Suggestion ==

Now that the details of Chris's trial has been posted, do you think his outburst about having to pay Michael Snyder's medical bills- "That thieving liar doesn't deserve a red cent!"- would be appropriate? Of course, I'm still kind of a newfag here, so ignore this if you want. I just found it amusing. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 02:40, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== Suggested article: Persecution Complex ==

I think we definitely need an article about all the times Christian has claimed to suffer/endured harsh trials in his life. For example, equating pulling weeds once with a Marine carrying the dead body of his friend back, as seen in the Father Call. Said Father Call is chock full of instances of Chris claiming to have suffered to prove his worthiness, in fact. I also don't need to mention all the times he has brought up being handcuffed in school, having his attraction sign removed at college, and getting suspended at college, for that was always frequent. He also grossly exaggerated the actions of the trolls in every interaction with friends, obviously... Even in his first ever YouTube video, he makes sure to claim that he has had a rough life: "I was diagnosed with high-functional autism, and I lived a, uh, somewhat rough life. I've had an abusive babysitter at one time." --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 16:13, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

*: Seconded. Make sure to include the fact that he's got a legitimate reason so see his bullshit as more important than it is. Also there's a page for requesting articles. Now get to work, soldier. [[User:CaveJohnson|CaveJohnson]] 20:33, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

== Confused ==

So, what's the deal? Is this site just an ironic way of trolling him, or what? I heard this was dedicated towards supporting him from outside sources, but looking at the content, I'd say you'd either have to be trolling him using irony and sarcasm, or as stupid as Chris himself. {{unsigned|5thofjulay}}
: We're not for or against him, for most part. There's a bit of snark here and there, sure. We try to show Chris's stuff in his own words. Unfortunately for Chris, his material doesn't make him look very good. This site isn't really a troll site, just another way for Chris to troll himself. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums Gone? ==

Should we mention on the main page that the forum has been deleted from the servers over at forumer? --[[User:Sparklemilhouse|Sparklemilhouse]] 15:41, 8 November 2012 (PST)
: Perhaps, if we can figure out what happened and what the following actions are. Last I checked, the forum staff was looking at their options. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)
: I wonder how much Our Pet Lolcow is chuckling to himself at the loss of our forums. Maybe he thinks we closed it ourselves to comply with his "apology post" on FaceBook; or maybe that one of his Curse-ya-meha-meha blasts actually worked.
:There's a temporary relief forum for the CWCki Forums: http://spergcityzone.forumer.com/index.php [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums gone....again? ==

The most recent forums appear to be gone. Is everything okay, or was it closed due to some of the conflicts between certain users and mods/management? - [[User:I Be Bobby Boulders|I Be Bobby Boulders]] 10:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Can we make the forums ''not'' forumer this time? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Eagerly awaiting the forum's next incarnation. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:47, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Ditto. - [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 15:31, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:We received a Chatzy screencap a while ago that proves that the people we banned planned to TOS the forum because nobody is allowed to have fun if they can't. Don't know if they actually were responsible, but that's the information we have. I didn't save the screencap, but I'm sure someone has it. I'm hoping that we'll have something substantial up within a couple days. We're just waiting on a couple email responses first. And it definitely won't be Forumer. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 17:10, 30 January 2013 (PST)

That was on the first day of the banning, and they settled down, so I doubt they did anything rash. Plus I've been talking to them almost every day, and they dropped it shortly after that day. The thing is that their forum was TOS'd at the same time ours was, so I'm assuming whoever did it reported both forums, and I highly doubt they'd TOS their own forum.--[[User:Someguywithnoname|Someguywithnoname]] 18:08, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:Yeah, this. There was some talk of going after champ's forum after the permaban of several people for trying to have something done about a crime committed by one of the mods, but it was dropped as a bad idea before leaving the brainstorming stage. Whoever TOSed either or both forums may have gotten the idea from such talk (and/or, more likely, simply from the predecessor forum having been TOSed before). [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:They probably nuked both forums after they realized that A. They weren't going to be allowed back into the real one and B. Not very many people were going to defect to theirs. So they employed the Samson option. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 10:40, 31 January 2013 (PST)
::That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately. At least half to two-thirds of the regulars from spergcityzone had "defected" to spergcentral by the time it was TOSed (basically everyone except for those who didn't try to access either forum during the short interval between the TOSings). Why on earth would anyone involved in running spergcentral TOS their own forum when it was pretty much already established as the successor to spergcityzone? If I had to guess I would guess that punchabunch TOSed both forums to try to get them to blame each other for it, given that they went down within 24 hours of one another and given his enthusiastic talk of "forum war". But there isn't really any way of knowing. At any rate, there's probably some troll who wanted to fuck around with both forums. [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:::[MOVED RESPONSE TO RELIEF FORUMS]--[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 13:13, 31 January 2013 (PST)

I'm currently creating a new CWCki Forums which is not under forumer. I'll let you know if it's ready. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 18:42, 30 January 2013 (PST)

It's done! First time creating a forum, so give me some tips and suggestions about it. http://alanpardewcwc.forumms.net/ [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 21:01, 30 January 2013 (PST)

I just checked my email, and brooklyn sent an email to everyone who shared their email on the last board saying that the new permanent board should be up by this weekend/early next week. [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 21:49, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Well, at least we'll have a backup forum in case something happens.[[User:Saney|Saney]] 21:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

The permanent board is coming soon? Great. I'll update the link later when it is up. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:25, 30 January 2013 (PST)

== Photo of rental house ==

Surely the photo of the front of the rental house Charb are staying in should be the photo of the now. EXIF data stripped, of course. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 02:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

* I'm working on it. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Cheers! That house sure looks spooky. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 11:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

== Lego Wishlist ==

Exactly how much is Chris' NEED list worth? What about his WANT list?
At the same time, he's selling items that should have sentimental value to him to pay the bills.
This def needs some looking in to!
--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 05:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
* I decided to take this task on myself. Still weeding my way through ebay to find the lowest prices for each set, but suffice it to say, the tally is HIGH! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 18:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
**The grand total for what Chris is begging for in Legos alone is ~$4800 --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 19:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

== QOTN ==

"The drawing that is being sold on eBay now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork with no original intent of profit."

**This needs to be on the front page because Chris is saying that his drawing he drew to sell online wasn't meant for profit.
These are disparaging statements. One cannot draw something with the intent of selling it and say they didn't intend any personal profit.
I'd put this on the forums, but null can't take jokes.--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 20:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** The total list rounds out to just over to $4800 for the lego sets Chris wants. He no doubt deserves them... lol --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 22:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** Going to. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== PSN Tracker ==

I feel like this is kinda taking up valuable real estate on the front page. Anyone opposed to removing it? I was pretty much against it from day one, it's been on the front page mostly to appease [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] but he's long gone. Not sure what to do with the extra space. I'd say to post his most recent Facebook posts but well, recent events suggest that probably won't be happening. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 09:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

*I'm all for a section on Facebook posts, but, as you said, it's possible we'll be seeing a lot less of those. Either way, the PSN tracker needs to go. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 10:41, 31 December

* I dunno. I always kinda liked it. A constant reminder of how much money he wastes. [[User:Sweet and Savoury|Sweet and Savoury]] ([[User talk:Sweet and Savoury|talk]]) 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== refer Chris as a female with female pronouns =

==Article of the Now change?==

So since the article about the Gamestop incident is getting old, why not replace it with this recent page about the documentary for Chris Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjnakAlF-s)

CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!

2015-02-11T14:02:46Z

FoxofGrey: Take 2, forgot the difference between "|" and "I" :P

"'''CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!'''" is a video released on 6 [[August 2009]], during the [[SingStar Challenge]] saga. In this video, [[Solid Chris]] exposes his rage against [[Liquid Chris]], accusing him of not doing the last [[SingStar Challenge Round 5#CChanSonichuCWC's Entry|song]] right and ordering him to redo the song and put his commentary in another video. This video is notorious for the anger and angst shown by Solid, who deleted the video shortly after uploading it. It is one of Solid's most-viewed videos, earning over 200,000 views as of 28 [[January 2015]].

==Video==

{{Tardrage}}

{{Infobox/video
| name = CHRIS! CHANDLER!
| video = {{#ev:youtube|dsyhCUYJoI8}}
| stardate = 6 [[August 2009]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}, {{Rumors|text}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}
| saga = {{Liquid|text}}
| shirt = {{JokerShirt|text}}
| previous = [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_5#IBAChandler.27s_Revised_Entry|Smell Yo Duck Too]]
| next = [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]]
}}
=== Transcript ===

{{RageQuote|'''CHRIS!''' CHANDLER!}}

Firstly, your video [''takes [[glasses]] off dramatically''] is only [''throws them to the floor'']...HALF the length of that track! The FULL length of that track is ALMOST...''10'' minutes. Redo the video for the full, ''9''-MINUTE-something LENGTH!

And commentary? You can put them in a SEPARATE video. SEPARATE. So, SING the whole 9-minute-something song.

AND anurr' thing.....CHRIS. Your for real n--your real name, as I have been told by [[Kacey]]...is only Chris Chandler! No "-tian," no "-topher," just Chris! So, admit that! An' anurr' thing...: [''yelled while jumping up and down like a child'']

{{RageQuote|MY! NAME! IS! NOT! ''IAN....'' ''....BRANNAN....'' ''....SOMETHING!!!''}}

[''gasps for air in an annoyed manner''] I am CHRISTIAN...WESTON...CHANDLER! SO

{{RageQuote|GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN FUCKING SKULL '''AND CALL ME THE REAL NAME''' THAT have [[God]] has been given to me,}}

AND [[Christopher's name change|the bear at Regency Square Shopping center]], during 1989...

{{RageQuote|YOU DAMN, MOCKING, BASTARD!!!}}

Get it {{RageQuote|'''''RIGHT!''''' I'M}} Christian Weston Chandler, {{RageQuote|YOU are only CHRIS...CHANDLER!}} Your medal is made out of {{RageQuote|PAPER!}} The whole length of time, THE [[medallion|REAL medal]] HAS been made out of Crayola FUCKIN' Model MAGIC, and acrylic {{rageQuote|PAINT!}} If I wanted paper, I would go to [[Wal-Mart]], and pay $5 for '''500''' {{RageQuote|'''[[Sheetz|SHEETS]]!'''}}

[''pauses, realizing what he said has no relevance to the topic at hand'']

Redo the 10-minute song and save the commentaries for a [''lowers his voice to an angry whisper''] separate video, [''stops whispering''] and everybody on the internet knows that I am the real deal, you are the impostor, so give up the damn game already before I really call the poli--[''realizes he fucked up''] before that I actually--[''fucks up again''] before I tell the police all the information I have gotten since I finally got them involved, and then send them on your case, put you in jail bef--, even though I would prefer not to see you in jail because Kacey respects you so much, man! [''in a really high voice''] She cares about you so much! She has told me so herself, over the telephone!

If I did not have that [''voice is normal again''] beforehand, I would have just been gladly prepared, gladly, and only gladly, before talking to her, gladly, to see your ass behind bars. But after talking to Kacey, and hearing her honest respect, [''calms down here''] I would hate to see you in jail, out of respect, and of care, because she would be heartbroken. You are a lucky son of a [[gun]], Chris Chandler, so quit this stupid impersonation game. Call me by the real name that God and the bear has given me throughout my whole life. [''Starts to rage again''] The current full name of Christian Weston Chandler, my first name being Christopher and my [[Spanish]] nickname being Ricardo. But in the end, just call me the full name, Christian Weston Chandler.

[''Takes a few deep breaths, possibly due to exhaustion'']

This game is not fun. If you are not careful, you really are going to go to jail. You will be tried in court, and you will be going to jail or serve community service, forcedly. I have--I was nice about it, I told you the details, and what do you do,

{{RageQuote|[[Kick the Autistic|YOU KICK ME IN THE BALLS AGAIN]]!}}

And I do not appreciate that! So STOP it! Stop it!

Come clean! Rip off your PAPER medallion, [[Sign Destruction Video|RIP IT OFF like a shred of paper]], look at my medal, I cannot even twist it, because it is made from Model Magic, not some cheap paper I can get at Wal-Mart for 500 dollar--for $5 for 500 sheets.

Sing the whole 9-minute-something song.

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Bear Canyon
| video = {{#ev:youtube|ref7rOmS-7s}}
| stardate = 30 [[December 2009]]
| maker = [[Vivian]]
| subject = CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!
| type = (VGM) Remix
| info = [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67MPxnPHBNk The original song]
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = CWC-Tok
| video = {{#ev:youtube|NadyUs_DWK8}}
| maker = [[Liquid Chris]]
| stardate = 9 [[January 2010]]
| type = Remix to "TiK ToK" by Ke$ha
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = OveR Da TeLePhonE
| video = {{#ev:youtube|63XxM-Gysfw}}
| maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/iiKiDzJii iiKiDzJii]
| stardate = 2 [[February 2010]]
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = (YTPMV) Ian Brandon Anderson Sparta Remix
| video = {{#ev:youtube|LSZK8AqFvbg}}
| maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/RainingMetal RainingMetal]
| stardate = 12 [[August 2010]]
}}

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[CWC - Hand Drawn Original]]|nextlink=[[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]]|}}
{{The Cwcivil War of 2009}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, August 2009| 2009-08-07]]
[[Category:Liquid Saga videos| 2009-08-07]]

CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!

2015-02-11T13:59:48Z

FoxofGrey: Changed the "I!!" to "MY!!" Might be wrong considering Chris's history with grammar but it's up for decision

"'''CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!'''" is a video released on 6 [[August 2009]], during the [[SingStar Challenge]] saga. In this video, [[Solid Chris]] exposes his rage against [[Liquid Chris]], accusing him of not doing the last [[SingStar Challenge Round 5#CChanSonichuCWC's Entry|song]] right and ordering him to redo the song and put his commentary in another video. This video is notorious for the anger and angst shown by Solid, who deleted the video shortly after uploading it. It is one of Solid's most-viewed videos, earning over 200,000 views as of 28 [[January 2015]].

==Video==

{{Tardrage}}

{{Infobox/video
| name = CHRIS! CHANDLER!
| video = {{#ev:youtube|dsyhCUYJoI8}}
| stardate = 6 [[August 2009]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}, {{Rumors|text}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}
| saga = {{Liquid|text}}
| shirt = {{JokerShirt|text}}
| previous = [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_5#IBAChandler.27s_Revised_Entry|Smell Yo Duck Too]]
| next = [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]]
}}
=== Transcript ===

{{RageQuote|'''CHRIS!''' CHANDLER!}}

Firstly, your video [''takes [[glasses]] off dramatically''] is only [''throws them to the floor'']...HALF the length of that track! The FULL length of that track is ALMOST...''10'' minutes. Redo the video for the full, ''9''-MINUTE-something LENGTH!

And commentary? You can put them in a SEPARATE video. SEPARATE. So, SING the whole 9-minute-something song.

AND anurr' thing.....CHRIS. Your for real n--your real name, as I have been told by [[Kacey]]...is only Chris Chandler! No "-tian," no "-topher," just Chris! So, admit that! An' anurr' thing...: [''yelled while jumping up and down like a child'']

{{RageQuoteMYI! NAME! IS! NOT! ''IAN....'' ''....BRANNAN....'' ''....SOMETHING!!!''}}

[''gasps for air in an annoyed manner''] I am CHRISTIAN...WESTON...CHANDLER! SO

{{RageQuote|GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN FUCKING SKULL '''AND CALL ME THE REAL NAME''' THAT have [[God]] has been given to me,}}

AND [[Christopher's name change|the bear at Regency Square Shopping center]], during 1989...

{{RageQuote|YOU DAMN, MOCKING, BASTARD!!!}}

Get it {{RageQuote|'''''RIGHT!''''' I'M}} Christian Weston Chandler, {{RageQuote|YOU are only CHRIS...CHANDLER!}} Your medal is made out of {{RageQuote|PAPER!}} The whole length of time, THE [[medallion|REAL medal]] HAS been made out of Crayola FUCKIN' Model MAGIC, and acrylic {{rageQuote|PAINT!}} If I wanted paper, I would go to [[Wal-Mart]], and pay $5 for '''500''' {{RageQuote|'''[[Sheetz|SHEETS]]!'''}}

[''pauses, realizing what he said has no relevance to the topic at hand'']

Redo the 10-minute song and save the commentaries for a [''lowers his voice to an angry whisper''] separate video, [''stops whispering''] and everybody on the internet knows that I am the real deal, you are the impostor, so give up the damn game already before I really call the poli--[''realizes he fucked up''] before that I actually--[''fucks up again''] before I tell the police all the information I have gotten since I finally got them involved, and then send them on your case, put you in jail bef--, even though I would prefer not to see you in jail because Kacey respects you so much, man! [''in a really high voice''] She cares about you so much! She has told me so herself, over the telephone!

If I did not have that [''voice is normal again''] beforehand, I would have just been gladly prepared, gladly, and only gladly, before talking to her, gladly, to see your ass behind bars. But after talking to Kacey, and hearing her honest respect, [''calms down here''] I would hate to see you in jail, out of respect, and of care, because she would be heartbroken. You are a lucky son of a [[gun]], Chris Chandler, so quit this stupid impersonation game. Call me by the real name that God and the bear has given me throughout my whole life. [''Starts to rage again''] The current full name of Christian Weston Chandler, my first name being Christopher and my [[Spanish]] nickname being Ricardo. But in the end, just call me the full name, Christian Weston Chandler.

[''Takes a few deep breaths, possibly due to exhaustion'']

This game is not fun. If you are not careful, you really are going to go to jail. You will be tried in court, and you will be going to jail or serve community service, forcedly. I have--I was nice about it, I told you the details, and what do you do,

{{RageQuote|[[Kick the Autistic|YOU KICK ME IN THE BALLS AGAIN]]!}}

And I do not appreciate that! So STOP it! Stop it!

Come clean! Rip off your PAPER medallion, [[Sign Destruction Video|RIP IT OFF like a shred of paper]], look at my medal, I cannot even twist it, because it is made from Model Magic, not some cheap paper I can get at Wal-Mart for 500 dollar--for $5 for 500 sheets.

Sing the whole 9-minute-something song.

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Bear Canyon
| video = {{#ev:youtube|ref7rOmS-7s}}
| stardate = 30 [[December 2009]]
| maker = [[Vivian]]
| subject = CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!
| type = (VGM) Remix
| info = [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67MPxnPHBNk The original song]
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = CWC-Tok
| video = {{#ev:youtube|NadyUs_DWK8}}
| maker = [[Liquid Chris]]
| stardate = 9 [[January 2010]]
| type = Remix to "TiK ToK" by Ke$ha
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = OveR Da TeLePhonE
| video = {{#ev:youtube|63XxM-Gysfw}}
| maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/iiKiDzJii iiKiDzJii]
| stardate = 2 [[February 2010]]
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = (YTPMV) Ian Brandon Anderson Sparta Remix
| video = {{#ev:youtube|LSZK8AqFvbg}}
| maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/RainingMetal RainingMetal]
| stardate = 12 [[August 2010]]
}}

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[CWC - Hand Drawn Original]]|nextlink=[[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]]|}}
{{The Cwcivil War of 2009}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, August 2009| 2009-08-07]]
[[Category:Liquid Saga videos| 2009-08-07]]