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User:FullNameUnknown/The Demon Theory of Christory

2026-07-18T19:49:56Z

FullNameUnknown:

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Good day everyone, and welcome to my TED Talk. It is obvious to every Christorian, from the veterans to the novices, that there is a deeper corruption within Chris-Chan beyond simple autism or narcissism. Clearly, Chris Chan is now in some sort of advanced form of schizophrenia, going from a relatively harmless (if not horrendously annoying) man-child when Sonichu was created in 2000 to a hulking, walking embarrassment who has lost any resemblance of thought grounded in the real world. As time went on, the meager amount of mental faculty that Chris Chan possessed slowly degraded into dust, replaced by vivid hallucinations of grandeur and deity-like power — until there was simply nothing left. But even from his attendance at community college, to the present-day sagas, even through the days of the Second Exile, there has been one persistent facet of his personality that refuses to die: his attention-seeking.

Chris-Chan’s inability to stay out of the spotlight has forever defined his life, extreme autism notwithstanding (although certainly a contributor to it). Chris-Chan's entire online presence seems to be a recursive cycle of attention, feeding into his ego; Chris inputs something out into the world or reacts to something, and the world reacts to Chris's input or reaction, thereby giving him more attention and more motive to give input or reaction. The documentation of this cycle (being this wiki) is also a form of giving him attention, since no other man or woman of such little repute can also claim to have this much of their life documented.

Many have taken note of this cycle, and some have even gone so far to claim that this cycle has been intentionally built to support some master-level psy-op to intentionally troll us all. While this is not true, it is extremely hard to deny that Chris Chan hasn’t been doing much of this for attention, at least subconsciously. There have been times where Chris was able to control his histrionic tendencies online: mainly in 2012 and 2013, suggesting that he is or was partly able to subdue them at times. However, it always circles back into attention-whoring, with him not being able to run away from the trolls that were so easily escapable and so horrifyingly corruptive.

However, I am here to propose a different explanation. This is no product of mere retardation or faggery, as the trolls would suggest. No, the force that drives

User:FullNameUnknown/The Demon Theory of Christory

2026-07-18T19:49:16Z

FullNameUnknown: Created page with "{{essay}} {{IncompleteEssay}} Good day everyone, and welcome to my TED Talk. It is obvious to every Christorian, from the veterans to the novices, that there is a deeper corruption within Chris-Chan beyond simple autism or narcissism. Clearly, Chris Chan is now in some sort of advanced form of schizophrenia, going from a relatively harmless (if not horrendously annoying) man-child when Sonichu was created in 2000 to a hulking, walking embarrassment who has lost any rese..."

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{{IncompleteEssay}}

Good day everyone, and welcome to my TED Talk. It is obvious to every Christorian, from the veterans to the novices, that there is a deeper corruption within Chris-Chan beyond simple autism or narcissism. Clearly, Chris Chan is now in some sort of advanced form of schizophrenia, going from a relatively harmless (if not horrendously annoying) man-child when Sonichu was created in 2000 to a hulking, walking embarrassment who has lost any resemblance of thought grounded in the real world. As time went on, the meager amount of mental faculty that Chris Chan possessed slowly degraded into dust, replaced by vivid hallucinations of grandeur and deity-like power — until there was simply nothing left. But even from his attendance at community college, to the present-day sagas, even through the days of the Second Exile, there has been one persistent facet of his personality that refuses to die: his attention-seeking.

Chris-Chan’s inability to stay out of the spotlight has forever defined his life, extreme autism notwithstanding as a factor (although certainly a contributor). Chris-Chan's entire online presence seems to be a recursive cycle of attention, feeding into his ego; Chris inputs something out into the world or reacts to something, and the world reacts to Chris's input or reaction, thereby giving him more attention and more motive to give input or reaction. The documentation of this cycle (being this wiki) is also a form of giving him attention, since no other man or woman of such little repute can also claim to have this much of their life documented.

Many have taken note of this cycle, and some have even gone so far to claim that this cycle has been intentionally built to support some master-level psy-op to intentionally troll us all. While this is not true, it is extremely hard to deny that Chris Chan hasn’t been doing much of this for attention, at least subconsciously. There have been times where Chris was able to control his histrionic tendencies online: mainly in 2012 and 2013, suggesting that he is or was partly able to subdue them at times. However, it always circles back into attention-whoring, with him not being able to run away from the trolls that were so easily escapable and so horrifyingly corruptive.

However, I am here to propose a different explanation. This is no product of mere retardation or faggery, as the trolls would suggest. No, the force that drives

User:FullNameUnknown

2026-07-18T19:47:29Z

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2026-07-18T19:46:49Z

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CWC's Second Message

2026-07-18T17:04:15Z

FullNameUnknown: /* Transcript */

{{Honest}}
{{Quote|Citizens of the [[Chris and the Internet|internet]]'': I present an open message to each and every one of you.|And so it begins...}}

'''CWC's Second Message''' (a.k.a. '''Madman Rising''') is the [[video]] that introduced [[the internet]] to the world of [[Chris]]. It was posted to [[YouTube]] on 3 [[August 2008]].

After months of trying to either ignore or edit his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page, Chris [[Chris and anger|explodes with fury]]. He blames ED for causing his fallout with [[Megan Schroeder]], although anyone with a brain could tell that it was his fault for drawing [[She Came for CWC|pornography involving her]] and sharing it to the world. Ironically, in trying to blame ED for the demise of his friendship with her, Chris unwittingly subjects Megan to further public humiliation by revealing that she is the subject of the pornographic drawing in question, rather than Chris's fictional sister [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]], who most trolls had until this point believed to be the woman in the drawing. Chris also begins threatening to withhold the release of [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] and all further comics unless the ED page is removed. Naturally, [[trolls]] were terrified that they would never see the conclusion to the absorbing story that Chris had created, and rushed to meet his demands.

This is a beloved classic in the CWChronology, and it was in this video that Chris unintentionally coined the term "[[pedofork]]". It is also one of the most prominent examples of Chris's use of the CWC-isms 'Dykes' and 'China' to refer to his alleged heterosexuality.

Throughout the video there are several noticeable skips and jump cuts; it's unclear whether these are a result of technical issues, or whether Chris edited down the video from something longer.

==Video==
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{{Infobox/video
| name = CWC's Second Message
| ytid = kPQlpGFWNgE
| stardate = 3 [[August 2008]]
| subject = {{Rumors|text}}, {{Homos|text}}, {{Comics|text}}, {{Galpals|text}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}, {{Reason|text}}, {{Tragedy|text}}
| saga = {{ED|text}}
| shirt = {{RedShirt|text}}
| previous = [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]
| next = [[Attention All Sonichu Fans (NOT HATERS)]]
}}

===Transcript===
''Citizens of the Internet'': I present an open message to each and every one of you.

[[Chris and his ego|Y'all should know me by now]], but, if you don't, I am Christian Weston Chandler, ''the'' original creator of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], the [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]], back on March 17th, [[2000]]. Any dates earlier are void. I present this open message because...I have a whole bunch of people on the Internet [''removes [[Pedo-Glasses|glasses]] dramatically''] give me hate...show me a lot of hate...and I do not appreciate it. Ticks me off.

You think you can just...hate me just to get a laugh out of yourself. Think about it. [[Twin Falling Towers|You're laughing at somebody else's pain and torture]], because I am lonesome, still trying to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]] and to make into a [[sweetheart]]. Y'all think I'm just a sap, a chump, dumbass, whatever you may think. But you know what? You. ''You!'' Every last one of you, who has shispressed hate against me? ''You're'' the shitheads!

[[Image:Herbert (Family Guy).JPG|thumb|Chris at age 70, if his cholesterol would allow him to live that long]]

Also, every last one of you who thinks that I am similar to that... Of that senile old man in ''[[Family Guy]]''... ''You're'' the pedophiles. Every one of you who thinks I'm [[homos|homo]] and calls me that—-because I am not; I'm ''straight''! I'm '''''straight!''''' ''You’re'' the homos! Every last one of you!

I could--I could take the whole time to express so much ''anger'' and frustration. I'm only nearsighted; I do wear glasses. [''replaces glasses on face''] Take it or leave it, losers! [''removes glasses dramatically, again''] It m--it helps me see better...see more detail...and more clear vision than any of you knuckleheads can put together...out of your own ego that you so richly...[''begins awkwardly tapping PS3 controller''] consume of.

But...on a more serious note: learning recently of the false--or real--literature, with downloaded...''copies'' of my comic pages and whatnot. It has been either distributed or created ''without'' my consent or approval. So...it ''is'' a fake...and if it ever is published, or if it ever shows profit, let it weigh on your consciousness throughout your eternal life...that you are torturing and--worse off--tearing the heart, and soul, and emotions of the innocent man. The out--the innocent--still 26-year-old [''slams arms down on chair’s arms''] ''virgin''. Not only that, but I have so many lonely nights and stress...that you can not just imagine it!

Now, as for the other serious note: of any new stuff officially made by me, under my own...hands...''not'' by anybody else's, which are considered ''false''. I just have not been feeling the inspiration to draw! To color! Because the loneliness...I cannot stand that. The hatred I'm getting from every last one of you who has contributed to that Encyclopedia Dramatica webpage...and every other forum, internet document, lewdly-drawn pictures with...''dicks''. I love ''dykes! DYKES!'' '''''[[China|CHINA]]!''''' [''jump cut''] I'm ''straight!'' If I ever--if I see a dick, [[Dick Licker; that is I|I just look away, with a moment of being freaked out!]] [''makes arm gesture for “safe!” in baseball'']

[[Image:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|left|"She has come for me"]]

''And'' e-mailing me pictures is not gonna get any of you any further conclusion to "Will [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]] get out of [[Dark Mirror Hole|the mirror]]?", "Will the 7 [[Sonichu Balls]] be collected?", "Will I ''ever'' find my [[sweetheart]]?" ''And'' am I--am I or [[Megan Schroeder]] still an item--" which by the way, she broke up with me so much long ti--so much long ago because...the contributors to that ED page...you broke the emotional stre--strength between us. You promoted such twists and turns to everything I have said [''begins tapping PS3 controller against his hand to count the offenses''] and drawn and written and ''whatnot''...you broke up the best friendship, the best relationship, the ''closest'' I could ever have in this ''pitiful adult life!'' ''You'' did it! Every last one of you! If I could blame myself, I would definitely blame myself for drawing [[Rule 34|those ''5'' pictures]]! Those 5 drawings! And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; [''covers eyes with one hand momentarily''] that is ''Megan!'' And just for--and just for--for...taking it up,and--twisting it around and such!

Think about it. ''Think about it!'' Weigh it on your conscience! Because nothing--no more official Sonichu...art or work may...or may not...ever emerge...depending...on the amount of hate that is decreased! That web page: ''taken off the Internet''! I wish I'd never found that piece of ''SHIT''...in the first place, back on that [[Halloween]] of [[2007|’07]], somewhere around there. And promoting the hatred, and...drawing such loose--such ''lucrid'' mockeries...is ''not'' gonna further the story plot or have anything new created, or even gonna help in any way...as I am telling you this, right into my [[PlayStation Eye]]!

[[Image:Chris chan by B Comes B-459.png|thumb|Mmmm, China!]]

[''sighs deeply''] If I ever do find the one that is to be my sweetheart, I will...give her such care, such tenderness, such love...we get around to the [[hanky-panky]], that's fine, that's good...we get married. I will have my God--create--my [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|God-called daughter]]! She will be taken care of...lovingly. Those of you mock me otherwise, with such ''frivolous, lucrid adultery''...if I ever hear another--any more new stuff, it will weigh on your conscience, with me ''tearing at your souls''...emotionally! Let ''that'' weigh on your conscience, for those of you who have already done so or are thinking about doing it!

I am not a [[pedofork]], you '''DORKS!'''

[''sighs''] I tell ya...so much anger, so much stress...it's hard to see straight. Let that, the result of all that you have contributed against me, weigh heavily like a 10,000-pound anvil! "[[wikipedia:Sixteen Tons|Sixteen tons]], whadd'ya get? Another day older and deeper in debt!" [''pronounces the b in "debt"'']

[[Chris and religion|If I was not a baptized man]] over at the [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|Methodist church]] by the [[University of Virginia]], I'd tell every last one of you that contributed to the hatred and downpour, "Go to hell." But I can--but I would not even weigh that upon my worst enemy, because that--because [[Take that Page DOWN NOW!|I am]] [[26 December 2014|more]] [[28 October 2011|kind]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|than]] [[Sonic Boom Protests|ya]] [[Death threats|think]]. Y'all just do not see that; y'all just twist my words around. [''clears throat''] I do not wish to see any more hatrey, or adult mockery, and I want that Encyclopedia Dramatica page taken down for''ev''er. It will weigh heavily on your conscience each day that it is ''still'' up there.

[''replaces glasses on face''] I leave you with any other thoughts that you ''may'' have. But if you ''dare'' twist ''these'' words around, that will weigh ''worse'' on your conscience. The words that ''I'' provide...from sound mind and ''heart''...it will weigh heavily on you.

[[Obesity|It will weigh ''heavily'' on you.]] {{clear}}

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = CWC - "Dykes Dykes China" (Adapted Music Video)
| ytid = IdV5BUk9-vo
| stardate = 13 July 2009
| maker = [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXfiwjz5uR0LzSt0Ww3rehA theimperiousdorkblog]
| type = Music video [[parody]] of Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby"
}}

==See also==
*[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]|nextlink=[[Attention All Sonichu Fans (NOT HATERS)]]|}}
{{Captain's Log}}

[[Category:Captain's log entries| 2008-08-03]]
[[Category:Chris-chan videos, August 2008| 03]]
[[Category:ED Saga videos| 2008-08-03]]
[[Category:Videos about homos| 2008-08-03]]
[[Category:PSEye videos|2008-08-08]]
[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]
[[Category:Videos published to Sonichu]]

6-10 April 2026 Cameo videos

2026-07-18T15:43:21Z

FullNameUnknown: /* Chris Has A Mental Breakdown */

{{Transcript}}

This page lists [[Cameo]] videos that Chris was paid to do, released 6 to the 10 [[April 2026]].

==Chris Has A Mental Breakdown==
Tagged as "Other for Josh Smith"<ref>https://www.cameo.com/jchristchansp/feed/69d33a30ea0eec5845c79159</ref>
{{Tardrage}}
{{Infobox/video
| name = Chris Has A Mental Breakdown
| video = {{#ev:youtube|}}
| stardate = 6 [[April 2026]]
| subject = {{Marketing|text}}, {{Sex|text}}, {{Trollsicon|text}}, {{Reality|text}}, {{Rumors|text}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}, {{Tragedy|text}}, {{Crazy|text}}, {{Reason|text}}
| Saga = {{Business|text}}, {{Incest|text}}
| shirt =
| other =
| previous = [[First Wedding Anniversary]]
| next = [[6 April 2026 Cameo videos#Ave's Birthday|Ave's Birthday]]
}}

===Transcript===

====Recording 1====

(Transscriber's Note: Chris's speech impediments really come out in full force here. She needs to fucking learn how to enunicate.)

Oh hey Josh, just um, thank you for your kindness and support here, y'know, just everything...

Hmmm... ''[struggles to read what's on the request]'' ok-ey, well just reading whatchu, uh, wrote here. Um, oof- hm...

Well, present moment, I am watching a bunch of, uh, ''[YouTuber's name I probably don't recognize. Sounded like LightningBus]''' 's story-time videos where she speaks through and [[Chris and english|tell]] her stories, just- ''[switches to ear-piercingly high voice]'' Well, I need to get this off my chest, but well- she has had better social-socializing success and, like, y'know congratulations to her and everything, and I can now feel free to tell her [[Speech impediment|dis]] and all, but... ''[Kicks voice up another semitone] I'm jealous!''

''[Gives a tard stare for a few seconds. Really looks into your soul.]''

''[Begins pounding desk]'' About of all the '''''damn [[Chris and censorship|F-CKING]] TROLLS BEHIND ME, and everything!''''' [[Speech impediment|About like, how they can claim- and everything-]] and how they can claim that they can scare me into like, [[Incest Saga|''LYING TO THE WORLD, essentially,'' back in 2021]], lyin' to EVERYBODY! ''[Arm flopps onto body.]''

Anyways, just... Congratulations to her. ''[Stutters for a moment]'' [[Speech impediment|Zxhe]] has had better success for her online socializing than I ever had.

''[Breathes in, then switches back to ear-piercingly high voice ]''

'''I mean, I'm just ''scared'' of socializing! I mean, I'm just ''scared!''''' I'm scared [[Transgender|straight]], it's [[Speech impediment|impersoner]], (unintelligible)?<ref>Chris is so fucking hard to understand here, I have no idea if what I'm typing is actually correct. I am not fluent with the language of slow-in-the-mind, it seems.</ref>

So... if you wanna spread this around , just go ahead. [[Chris and hypocrisy|I don't care.]] It's my [[Tard rage|emotional vent]]. Whatever! ''[Puts fingers together, closes eyes, then starts mumbling]'' [[Pokemon|I call my meditation "Focus Mind"]].

''[Breathes in and out for about 15 seconds]''

Alright well, just, calm mind and clear sense and focusing some light power towards you.

Josh, follow that is light-powered and good. Be safe and well, and take care. Thank you for your kindness and support. ''[Puts palm to camera and makes a weird, angelic sound.]''

==Ave's Birthday==
Tagged as "Birthday for Ave"<ref>https://www.cameo.com/jchristchansp/feed/69d405ad6eb69279d2edd2a4</ref>
{{Infobox/video
| name = Ave's Birthday
| video = {{#ev:youtube|}}
| stardate = 6 [[April 2026]]
| subject = {{Marketing|text}}, {{Television|text}}, {{Autism|text}}
| style = {{Reason|text}}
| Saga = {{Business|text}}
| shirt =
| other =
| previous = [[6 April 2026 Cameo videos#Chris Has A Mental Breakdown|Chris Has A Mental Breakdown]]
| next = [[7 April 2026 Cameo videos#Ignore Short Feisty Cigar Man and FNaF is Real|Ignore Short Feisty Cigar Man and FNaF is Real]]
}}

==Ignore Short Feisty Cigar Man and [[List of Chris's video games#Steam|FNaF]] is Real==
Tagged as "Pep Talk for Daniel"<ref>https://www.cameo.com/jchristchansp/feed/69d5966ba58e48cfea28a896</ref>
{{Infobox/video
| name = Ignore Short Feisty Cigar Man and FNaF is Real
| video = {{#ev:youtube|}}
| stardate = 7 [[April 2026]]
| subject = {{Marketing|text}}, {{Video games|text}}
| style = {{Reason|text}}, {{Crazy|text}}
| Saga = {{Business|text}}
| shirt =
| other =
| previous = [[6 April 2026 Cameo videos#Ave's Birthday|Ave's Birthday]]
| next = [[8 April 2026 Cameo videos#Ali's Birthday|Ali's Birthday]]
}}

==Ali's Birthday==
Tagged as "Birthday for Ali"<ref>https://www.cameo.com/jchristchansp/feed/69d6991e370b6ced29afcc6c</ref>
{{Infobox/video
| name = Ali's Birthday
| video = {{#ev:youtube|}}
| stardate = 8 [[April 2026]]
| subject = {{Marketing|text}}, {{Video games|text}}
| style = {{Reason|text}}
| Saga = {{Business|text}}
| shirt =
| other =
| previous = [[7 April 2026 Cameo videos#Ignore Short Feisty Cigar Man and FNaF is Real|Ignore Short Feisty Cigar Man and FNaF is Real]]
| next = [[6-10 April 2026 Cameo videos#Jerry's Third Roast|Jerry's Third Roast]]
}}

==Jerry's Third Roast==
Tagged as "Roast for Jerry"<ref>https://www.cameo.com/jchristchansp/feed/69d9afb421f1c63bdee66e9c</ref>
{{Infobox/video
| name = Jerry's Third Roast
| video = {{#ev:youtube|}}
| stardate = 10 [[April 2026]]
| subject = {{Marketing|text}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}, {{Reason|text}}
| Saga = {{Business|text}}
| shirt =
| other =
| previous = [[6-10 April 2026 Cameo videos#Ali's Birthday|Ali's Birthday]]
| next = [[11-15 April 2026 Cameo videos]]
}}

===Response===
The commissioner left a review:
{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Never Pass Your Torch|I am not married to Jerry. His wife does not like my marriage advice.}}

{{References}}
{{Paid Videos}}
[[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2026]]

Incest Texts

2026-07-18T14:24:53Z

FullNameUnknown:

{{Protip|Shockingly, these texts include detailed first-hand descriptions of incest. If you don't wanna hear about it, don't read.}}

The '''Incest Texts''' refer to text messages sent by Chris in which he discussed his [[Affair with Mother|incestuous affair with his mother]].

Screenshots of the texts are undated. Clues indicate a possible date of the night of 28 July 2021.{{refn|group="note"|By Fiona's timezone, the texts were leaked on the night of 29 July 2021, a Thursday. The texts are dated as Wednesday and the final text is stamped "Yesterday".}} If true this would place the texts as occurring a day after the [[Incest Call]].

The recipient of the texts is similarly unclear; clues indicate Chris sent the messages to [[Bella]].{{refn|group="note"|Chris told Null he had told only Bella of the incest,<ref>[[Null DMs#Incest leak questioning]]</ref> screenshots of the texts show the top notification bar as being similar to the bar in the [[Bella chats#Preparing for Video Call|chats with Bella]] from 27 July 2021 onwards.}}

This conversation took place over the encrypted text/video call app Signal,{{refn|group="note"|Notification bar for the texts match the bar in other messages sent via Signal.<ref>[[Bella chats#Preparing for Video Call]]</ref>}} which Chris recommended out of concern the government may hack the conversation (having learned about the app by using it to communicate with Null).<ref>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref>

The texts were leaked on the early morning hours of 30 [[July 2021]], at 1:32 AM EST, by [[Fiona]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ouel67/more_barb_x_chris_leaks_from_the_trolls/ [https://archive.fo/19Xfj (Archive)]</ref> Following the leak, [[Null]] asked Chris if the screenshots were real, and Chris confirmed it.<ref>[[Null DMs#Incest questioning]]</ref>

The Texts, along with the Incest Call, led to Chris being jailed on an incest charge for nearly two years, until the [[autism disorder deferred disposition]] caused the court to dismiss the charge in exchange for Chris completing the program's terms.

== The texts ==

Chris's messages are quoted below.

{{quotebox|Just going ahead and sharing this with you, fresh experience.

On the Strictly Confidential just between you and I.

So, yes, [[Barb]] and I just had another romp in the hay and an extensive cuddle.

Tonight, I started looking into a more consistent pattern to my massaging. And I took the input and focused on getting blood flow into the groin area.

Before tonight, I did not really have a set pattern in the massage, aside from feet and legs, followed by hands and arms, the face, front torso, and then a roll-over for her back.

I have found a more consistent method that works between the legs and arms, but I was inconsistent in the hands and feet.
Anyway

Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.

Would you Believe she has literally Never Ever masturbated in her entire life?

And, obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; I found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue.

And I did also stimulate her clit; that does not seem to hurt her as much, but she still has a limit with that spot as well.

Anyway, we're making progress.

And when we cuddle, and this actually impresses me More, I literally feel our souls bonding and coming together as one during that time. Damn, it feels soo good when that happens.

And we talk a good while as well before she heads back upstairs.

I have been sending her meditation tracks to stimulate her brain and bring back some of her youth, and the results do show, most splendidly.
I am soo proud of her.

And from her stories she told me tonight, she Even remembered a fun story that Involved her daddy from when she was two years old.

Two Years Old.

That in itself at her age is Massively Good!

She has had memory problems at time beforehand, yes, but she is being better stimulated in her mind and soul, and it Really Shows! Her mental processing speed is even going back up.

She FEELS This and has told me so, herself.

And I am soo happy and content that I am able to help her out like this.

And It helps me as well, because of the experience, and the education and learning}}

==Gallery==
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{{Notes}}
{{References}}

{{IncestSaga}}
{{FanChats}}

CWCki:Gossip

2026-07-18T14:20:59Z

FullNameUnknown: /* Flutter */

{{quote|Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it|''Jonathan Swift''<ref>https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?title=A%20Modest%20Proposal%20and%20Other%20Prose&author=J%20Swift&publication_year=2004&</ref>}}
This article will act as a namespace for the misinformation variant of the [[Template:Unreliable|"Unreliable"]] template and the [[Template:Misinfo|"Misinfo"]] template, explaining what kind of misinformation, misconceptions, or unproven claims are commonly believed about the article's subject.
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==[[Affair with Mother]]==

*Many have come to believe that Chris had sexually assaulted his own mother when the news came out that he has had an incestuous affair with her following the leak of the infamous [[Incest Call]]. This notion would be perpetuated by several YouTubers and news panels, sometimes indirectly by claiming that Barb has dementia. Despite this, Chris has only ever been charged with "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD"<ref group = note>This charge appears to be used for all instances of parent-child and grandparent-grandchild incest at the jail Chris was sent to, probably due to character limits in the charge descriptions, as well as the fact that the text was likely generated from the numeric code for the offense.</ref> after this affair, and was never officially charged for rape or sexual assault.

Along with that, claims that Barbara had dementia had primarily came from begging videos where she could be playing up her frailty to elicit pity for money. (See: [[CWCki:Gossip#Barbara Chandler|Barbara Chandler]]). Therefore, whether or not this affair was entirely consensual is inconclusive.

==[[Anaxis]]==
*It is sometimes stated that Anaxis is female as a result of being referred to by she/her pronouns. However, this was only when he role-played as the character [[Lainchu]], who is female.


==[[Autism]]==
*It is common for observers to attempt to diagnose Chris as having "more than just autism", speculating what other types of disabilities or disorders he may have.
**It is also common to suggest that Chris couldn't possibly be autistic because of his sex drive, or conversely that the Love Quest is his way of overcompensating for the lack thereof. While asexuality (a lack of attraction to other people sexually, which isn't necessarily the same as a low sex drive, since asexuals can masturbate to pure sensation) is more common among autistic people, it is far from universal.
**Chris's lack of singing ability has been occasionally attributed to his autism. While a lack of control of inflections, or standard presentation thereof, is a common trait of autistic ''speech'', autistic people are actually more likely to excel in analyzing, hearing, imagining ("audiation"), and producing exact pitches, and are more likely to have perfect pitch.
**Some people claim that Chris was self-diagnosed. His [[Autism papers]] differ.
**Many also view mild autism as being synonymous with mild intellectual disability. However, autistics are often of normal or high intelligence. Chris's IQ is unknown.
**Chris has occasionally been accused of having a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Such a condition has neither been confirmed or denied. While Chris has occasionally hinted at believing cartoon characters to be real, he does clearly separate that "reality" from the actual reality by acknowledging them as existing in a separate dimension. While him seeing the characters might sound like Chris hallucinating, further analysis reveals that Chris is simply imagining them.
***While Chris post-jail has exhibited what some have identified as side-effects of ''anti''psychotics (such as mild sedation, rapid weight gain after losing most of it in prison, twitches that can't be explained as stims, etc.), those drugs are often prescribed as mere tranquilizers to people for a variety of reasons, including as an elective treatment for autistic irritability, and Chris never confirmed or denied taking them anyway.

==[[Autism disorder deferred disposition]]==
*Though Chris was dismissed from the case regarding his affair with Barb accounting for his autism, it should be noted he wasn't found innocent either. The records regarding the full scope of the case are sealed.

==[[Bailey Jay]]==
*It is often rumored that Chris was actually not disgusted by Bailey at all, and in fact was hitting on her. This appears to come from the fact that Chris still called her "pretty", even after discovering she was a "[[hermaphrodite]]", and the rather vague way he responded to her apologizing for accidentally sending him more nude photos after his initial shock. Though this isn't entirely impossible, it also hasn't been fully proven that this was the case.

==[[Barbara Chandler]]==
*Gossipers often speculate on whether Barbara has dementia, mainly based on occasional begging videos directed by Chris from the mid-2010s where she appears to have delayed speech or lapses in memory. However, such videos offer an incomplete and warped perspective of Barbara, as background context - such as how coherent Chris was in explaining what he wanted filmed - is unknown. In contrast, videos where Barbara either [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017|walked in on a livestream]] or was [[Chris Chan VS. The Internet|interviewed without Chris's involvement]] show her as more cognizant. In August 2019, Chris claimed Barbara did not have dementia.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Barb ain't dead yet + Magi-Chan's likes]]</ref> Other glimpses at Barbara's life from that point on show her handling her own [[debt]] better than Chris,<ref>Despite owing more than Chris, she has avoided garnishment filings unlike Chris</ref> managing her own doctor appointments,<ref>[[The Place chats (November 2020)#Chris's Body Shakes]]</ref> and even reminding Chris of his own debt hearing,<ref>[[Other chats leaked by Naught (September 2020)#Debt hearing, toys, Merge]]</ref> all of which points against the dementia theory. When interacting with a prank caller in [[December 2023]] and with a fan in [[February 2025]], Barbara demonstrated awareness of Chris, suggesting the former read [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]]<ref>[[Sonichussy Call]]</ref> and commenting to the latter that it was [[Chris's birthday]] that day.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Barb]]</ref>

==[[Bob Chandler]]==
*Bob's rather complicated relationship with Chris is often times simplified into either being entirely good or entirely bad.
**It is sometimes stated that Bob had stopped caring about Chris at some point in his life, and only showed concern for his involvement with trolls for his own purposes. Such instances of this include supposedly paying Chris's high school gal-pals for their time with Chris, as well as his [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|intervention with Chris]] when trolls leaked their address online. These are based on speculation, however.
*One rumor is that Bob did Chris's college work for him, but isn't proven, and Chris's poor grades indicate otherwise.
*Bob is sometimes stated to be a Korean War veteran. This is incorrect. He served in the US Army Signal Corps during [[wikipedia:Operation Blacklist Forty|Operation Blacklist Forty]] — the American occupation of the southern half of Korea after World War II — and was discharged in 1948, never seeing combat.

==[[Caden Peck]]==
*It was believed for some time that Caden Peck had approved of Larry Vaughn's plan to send Chris to Florida, though this came from Vaughn reiterating what [[Bella]], who has been known to betray her associates (in this case Praetor) told him.
*It is often stated that Caden had staged some of the [[Sightings|Post-Jail sightings]] in order to promote sales towards Praetor, usually attributing accounts that post their photos to him posting them through the use of throwaway and sock puppet accounts on websites such as [[Reddit]] and [[Kiwi Farms]]. However, such claims come down to conjecture, and there are so far no confirmed cases of this.

==[[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History]]==
*It is often said that the ''Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History'' documentary series by [[Geno Samuel]] had a lot of influence on Christory. However, the only major confirmed instance of its influence on Christory was inspiring [[KwaiiSandbag]] to troll Chris in 2021, which lead to snapping Chris out of the idea he was [[Spirit possession|body swapped]] with Sonichu.

==[[Clyde Cash]]==
*It is believed by some that the Clyde Cash persona was played by multiple people taken on by one identity. While several people would go under the name "Clyde Cash", mostly for completely unrelated plans, the original persona most associated with Christory was played by a single troll. This same troll would play as other characters in Christory, including [[Vivian Gee]], Gregg Mays, and [[Mao Ling]].



==[[Emergency Protective Order]]==

*Though the document lists Barb as a "victim", and ordered Chris to be taken away from Barb, who was deemed an "alleged abused person", Chris was still only charged for incest under Virginia Law, which doesn't specify a victim.

==[[Fiona Cooper]]==
Fiona Cooper, also known as Snoo or "The Suitress", was invited by Chris to join him and Bella to the [[Brony]] convention [[Everfree Northwest]]. Bella then invited Fiona into one of her Discord servers after she and Fiona were invited into The WCT's [[Knights of CWC]] server. After Bella had a call with Chris regarding his affair with his mother, she gave a clip of it to Fiona, who then shared it to a group of people in another server, causing it to get leaked.

*Much like with Chris, Fiona being autistic led to a flurry of misconceptions, with many sources putting great emphasis on this facet of her.
**It is sometimes stated that Fiona was mentally handicapped as a result of her being autistic. In actuality, autism is a spectrum, and affects those who have it differently, excelling in some areas over others; intellectual or otherwise. The belief that Fiona is mentally impaired appears to stem from the fact that [[Spooky Bones]] made a post on Kiwi Farms discouraging others from doxing Fiona, while calling her an "extremely autistic young woman". Despite such claims, nothing about Fiona indicates she's intellectually or otherwise mentally impaired.
**It is sometimes speculated that Chris supposedly didn't pursue Fiona because of her autism, citing his attraction sign, which explicitly stated that he didn't want an autistic girlfriend. This is ignoring the fact that said attraction sign was created 20 years before he met Fiona, and that Chris's tastes have drastically evolved over time.
**Fiona being autistic, combined with being framed by Bella, also led to the assumption of Fiona being a Chris-like figure, with some even going as far to claim she's more of a "vulnerable adult" than Chris is. This had led to the belief she was meant to serve as a "fall girl" and many of the other rumors mentioned in this section, with beliefs in her being mentally impaired leading to the assumption that she didn't have accountability in her involvement in Christory.
*It is a common belief that Fiona asked to be censored on the CWCki and elsewhere, with some accounts stating she changed her mind afterwards. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests in the first place, and even actively went against people's attempts at censoring her. The obfuscation of Fiona primarily arose from stigma surrounding her getting doxed followed by Bella framing her. Additionally, the Suitress policy on the CWCki was an entirely unilateral decision made by a single CWCki jerkop, [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] in response to this stigma. He also did not ask for the input of other users on the CWCki, nor did he ask Fiona personally if she wanted to be censored. Upon returning on a throwaway account on Reddit, Fiona both announced she was the "Everfree Suitress" and posted a picture of herself promoting her throwaway. The belief that she wanted censorship appears to stem from the fact that Psycho's inspiration for the policy was the Wallflower policy, where that actually did happen.
*It is a commonly held belief that Fiona wanted to be Chris's sweetheart. While she had admitted to having an actual crush on him, she had never actually stated to have a desire to be a sweetheart of his, or to be in a long-term relationship with him. She would claim in texts, however, that she was "fine with the friends with benefits thing" and that Chris considers her his "first real sweetheart".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Discussion of Incest]]</ref>
*Along with the first point, it is often speculated by observers why Chris supposedly didn't pursue a relationship with Fiona, and chose Barbara over her. In reality, Chris seemed to have held a rather conflicting standpoint towards her attraction towards him, claiming in chats and calls that he didn't see the relationship lasting long, forseeing that she'd meet a long-term sweetheart in college. However, Chris would also promise to her in a recording regarding Everfree Northwest not to be enraged at the G5 merchandise that may show up, and state that he "loved" her. He would also claim in a text that having sex with her would be the right step for her to take both for her "emotional and mental development". Fiona would also claim in a conversation with Bella that Chris was "embarressed and nervous" at the thought of his first real sweetheart. Chris would also refer to her by a pet name, "Fifi", that he had given to her in a [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022|jail letter]]. Along with all of that, Chris had been having his affair with his mother since late June, roughly a month before he ever met Fiona.
*It is often claimed that Bella wanted to film Chris having sex with Fiona for blackmail purposes, usually following that she'd do this to frame him as a [[pedofork|pedophile]]. This appears to be a rumor loosely based on two excerpts from the [[Incest Call]] and excerpts from leaked messages involving Bella. With regards to the Call, the first excerpt was where Bella discusses her friend [[Fiona]] (who held a crush on Chris) and tries to encourage Chris to pursue a relationship with her. In the second, Bella said she would create a slideshow of romantic stuff between Chris and Fiona during the [[Everfree Northwest]] convention festivities. Bella does not seem to actually state wanting to put any sexual content into the presentation. Adding onto that, Chris already discussed with Bella about the planned sexual intercourse he'd have with Fiona before she made the call. With regards to the leaked messages, Bella tried to create a cover story to protect Fiona when questioned by the Knights, claiming she was a minor. This was after the calls got leaked, and after plans for the convention were arranged, so it is unlikely that Bella intended to frame Chris of being a pedophile.
*It is sometimes stated that Fiona was a victim of sexual abuse, explaining certain factors such as her crush towards Chris. Though this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, this hasn't been fully confirmed. Additionally, since her account was deleted prior, some of the evidence for this came from Kiwi Farms users trying to attribute her to posts from deleted accounts on the CWCki's Discord server being referred to as "Snoo", her screenname on said server. This search for her posts also didn't account for the fact that she used a second account, which used an entirely different name, "ScootalooSister", after being banned from the server the first time.<ref group = note>[[User:Anaxis/The Lainchu Manifesto#The Suitress and Associates|Anaxis]] claims that Fiona wasn't aware she got banned prior to making the second account, though she also stated that people on there naturally "missed her".</ref>
**In addition to this, Bella is often cited to want to "steal" Fiona from Chris, often to represent it as her wanting to sexually assault her. Such claims, however, are based on out-of-context chats involving Bella stating that she became "besties" with Fiona, and swore to protect her from Chris.<ref>[[Chess club#More Bella Thirst]]</ref> This also ignores the fact that Fiona herself engaged in flirtatious behaviors with Bella, sending her a picture of both her face and legs, and telling Bella she "had sex with men", meaning that whatever feelings Bella had towards Fiona were entirely consensual.<ref>[[Chess club#Bella Thirst]]</ref> Bella had also stated that she only wanted to go to the convention to dance with Fiona at the Grand Galloping Gala event at the convention but otherwise hadn't expressed anything beyond that.<ref>[[Chess club#Everfree Dance]]</ref>
*It is often stated that Fiona was brought to a "mental hospital" or was "institutionalized" after her encounters with Chris, with the story usually stating it was a result of GiBi leaking her phone number or as a result of Bella framing her. Chris also repeated this rumor in an interview he had with Keffals. In actuality, this is an exaggeration made regarding events surrounding Fiona being told to the Mean Girls by her friend Grant. One of the Mean Girls had stated that Grant told them that Fiona had her internet privileges revoked, and "may have" been brought into inpatient psychiatric care.<ref>{{cite farms|thread = 96787|post = 9663622|writer = Basalas}}</ref> Grant seemed to have chosen not to give the exact details surrounding this, but this essentially means that Fiona was temporarily brought to therapy for a short period, likely overnight. This is not the same thing as being put in a "mental hospital".

==[[Flutter]]==
After Chris was released from Jail, he was spotted many times with an unnamed gal-pal, usually referred to as "Flutter". Often deemed as being one of the most mysterious aspects of Christory, several rumors surrounding her and her relations to Chris had naturally arisen afterwards.

*Some believe that Flutter was a recruit from [[Praetor]], though actual proof of this has yet to surface.
*It is often supposed that Flutter is Finnish (or perhaps Finnish-American) since Chris began studying Finnish in [[Duolingo]] for no particular reason around the time he met her and subsequently went to Finland multiple times with her. However, these factors cannot be classified as hard proof. Additionally, one observer stated that she had no noticeable foreign accent and other claimed that she spoke with an affected "anime girl" voice.
*It is sometimes stated that Flutter might be mentally handicapped. While this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities, most of this comes down to conjecture than anything substantiated. This appears to be based on Chris's encounters with [[Fiona]], which had occurred under similar circumstances. One of the people who spotted Flutter with Chris claimed that she wasn't "noticeably" handicapped.
*It is claimed that Flutter frequented several Finnish image boards, though the identity of this poster hasn't been disclosed.
*It was once written on Flutter's page by the ween [[Xela]] that when she wore a facemask and sunglasses both to the airport and at a convention, she did this as a means to avoid attention from weens. Several other similar rumors about Flutter's face being obscured in photos would soon follow, with some even accusing those who took photos of her and Chris of being in cahoots with people like [[Caden Peck]].<ref group=note>There are a few photos of Flutter that do show her face, such as the image used in her infobox, so this is demonstrably false.</ref> Once again, while it is not entirely impossible that Flutter is trying to conceal her identity, almost all signs of this are circumstantial at best.
*Also on Flutter's page, it was written that there was a possibility that Flutter showed reciprocity for Chris when he allegedly "hugged" her at a CVS, stating that her body language "didn't indicate" reciprocity,<ref group = note>Specifically wording it like this not only assumes that it is known for a fact that Chris did advance on her, but also implies that because it hasn't been disproven, one could assume she expressed feelings back towards him.</ref> though this was based on a very blurry photo of them where not all of the details can be made out. This means it would be impossible to make out either of their body languages. While the person who took the photos had claimed that Flutter was uncomfortable with Chris's supposed advances, their claims have yet to be fully verified.
*Xela also knowingly spread a rumor that Chris and Flutter were going to have a baby some time in the summer of 2025 for the sole purpose of stirring up drama. He based this rumor on a misheard clip of a livestream. This rumor got promoted by several sources, including Null himself, so much so that it even made it onto tabloid media such as the ''Daily Mail''. In actuality, Chris had never discussed any such plans of having a child with Flutter, and was in fact speaking hypothetically of such a scenario.
*Flutter's first name is rumored to be "Auli" (an uncommon, old-fashioned Finnish woman's name) on the basis of a alleged call<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92TwU2gNZVA</ref> between a financial [[enabler]] and Chris posted to YouTube on 12 June 2025. In the call, the enabler tries to get Chris's guard down by asking him questions about [[Transformers|Autobots]] and [[Count Graduon]] before abruptly asking "Does Eileen know about this?", causing Chris to respond "Her name is Auli". Some have argued that the call was created using AI voice simulation tools or is otherwise inauthentic. Even if the call is authentic, it hasn't been confirmed that "Auli" is the correct spelling of the name.
*It has been speculated that there is a possibility that Flutter has Turner Syndrome. Her unusually short height, her round-shaped chin, and (if the account is true) high pitched anime-esque voice are all common symptoms of Turner Syndrome. However, it has not been confirmed, and is only verifiable through professional diagnosis. (If she does have Turner syndrome, she is unable to get pregnant, so Chris's dreams of siring a daughter named Crystal are shattered.)

==[[Gal pal]]==
*It is often asserted that Chris's high school "[[gal pal]]s" were paid by [[Bob]] to hang out with him during school hours and look out for him. Conversations between trolls and the former "friends" indicate that they had some kind of informal arrangement with Bob and the school principal, but there is no indication that they were ever paid for their services. When Chris was in middle school, however, Bob did pay a girl named Natasha to walk with him to and from the bus stop, with Chris handing her the money himself.<ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Natasha]]</ref>
*Chris himself now believes that his supposed friends were paid to hang out with him, causing him to disparage them as "hired help". This is based on a conversation he had with a troll who was posing as one of the friends in question. After he was told they had been paid, he asked [[Barbara]] if that was true and she told him it was. However, it is likely that Barb was never familiar with the details of the arrangement and may have had them confused with Natasha.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals]]</ref>
*People sometimes cite fake quotes from the troll [[Thetan]], who impersonated Chris' High School gal-pals, as evidence for them supposedly loathing Chris or regretting their friendships with him. It is also entirely unlikely that these gal-pals would have expressed any feelings about Chris' online presence, as they have long since moved on with their lives and have families.

==[[GiBi]]==
[[File:GiBi discusses Bella and the Suitress screenshot.png|thumb|200px|GiBi neglected to redact one of the phone numbers when showing screenshots (under red censor bar; screenshot was uncensored in his video). The number allegedly belonged to Fiona. This was the basis for much speculation.]]

GiBi, a semi-popular Christuber made a daily series regarding the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]] of Christory. He consulted several conflicting sources for information regarding the act, one of which was Bella. Bella tried to convince him that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", which GiBi argued for.

Bella also took screenshots of her DMs with Fiona and Chris and gave them to GiBi to leak. The screenshots included header information on names and phone numbers for both. When making a video on the screenshots, GiBi attempted to crop out the header information - while he succeeded at most, he neglected to crop two instances, leaving Fiona's phone number briefly visible. When told of this by Kiwi Farms users, GiBi promptly deleted the video and redid it to censor one instance, but failed to catch the other. When informed again, he again deleted the video. GiBi later posted the screenshots onto Kiwi Farms where he applied censorship to Fiona's phone number (and not Chris's).

*Before the uploading of the infamous video by him where he leaks Fiona's phone number, GiBi would mention on the Kiwi Farms about getting information on the leaks from a "friend" of his, alongside Bella. The "friend" that GiBi was talking to was presumed to be [[The WCT]]. In actuality, the friend was a CCCC user that went under the username "LavenderBonez" on that server, who seemed to be supportive of Fiona leaking a chunk of the incest call, even going as far as calling her a "hero".<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#CCCC Incest Call Leak]]</ref>
*In its earliest form, [[GiBi]] had a section of the [[Orbiter Wave]] page, which initially covered people that were prominent during the [[Affair with Mother|Incest Saga]]. In it, his leaking of Fiona's number was characterized as intentional from being prompted by Bella's disinformation. The section originally stated that ''Immediately accepting Bella's story that the entire scandal was the fault of Fiona, he then leaked Fiona's phone number in one of his videos for thousands to see.'' It appears to be speculation that there was a link between the phone number leak and Bella's story. The section was also revised to clarify that the leak was in the form of screenshots of text messages between Bella and Fiona in which a phone number was not redacted.


==[[Honor Roll]]==
*Whether Chris made the Honor Roll, or exactly what such a feat entailed around the time of his graduation, is unknown.

==[[Incest Call]]==
A key aspect regarding the drama that followed from Chris's affair had primarily come from how clips of this call had been leaked. So far, only four clips of varying lengths of this call had ever been leaked, all with various amounts of context. Because of this, many unproven claims regarding the people involved in the [[Incest]], [[Watchmen]], and [[Lainchu]] sagas have been heavily propagated.

*The date of the Call is unclear, which in turn has lead to gossip on what [[Bella]] wanted to do with the call. Evidence points to either 27 July 2021 or 28 July 2021 as the call date, however much of the evidence was from Bella's screenshots, and she has a history of creating [[Fabricated BDSM texts|fabricated texts at least once.]]

==[[Isabella Loretta Janke]]==
Isabella Loretta Janke is most known for a call which Chris initiated with her to describe incestuous acts he had performed with his mother. Before this, Bella had been in touch with Chris for almost a year, acting nice around him, while behind his back showing many instances of A-logging or wishing harm towards him in Discord chats, sometimes outright claiming to want to make him harm himself. She would also roleplay as prior [[gal pal]]s like Kellie Andes and an employee for the Curiosity Stream, and has been known to encourage the verbal harassment and bullying of other students at her university. This behavior would lead to many instances of misinformation or unproven claims resulting from the chaos around the [[Incest Call]], gossip on [[Kiwi Farms]], much of which was perpetuated by user [[Spooky Bones]], being taken at face value, and Bella's alleged plots towards Chris.
*It is often stated that Bella had convinced Chris to commit incest on his mother. In actuality, Chris had decided on his own to commit incest a month prior to telling Bella about it, and he later picked Bella to brag to about it.
*It was initially written that Bella had a suicide plot towards Chris dating back to 25 April 2020. This was based on a Discord user, ZorgothTDK, who alleged that DMs between him and Bella, in which a Deleted User states "That's what we're trying to do with Chris [...] Get him be suicidal [...] Bc he's retarded", were Bella discussing Chris Chan. However, Bella knew of two other people named Chris - her cousin and another Discord user - making it unclear if she was referring to Chris Chan. Though ZorgothTDK claims that Bella was referring to Chris Chan, the full log of his conversation with the Deleted User makes no indication that Chris Chan was being discussed.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bella-janke-allegedly-planning-cwc-suicide-since-april-2020.97773/</ref> In addition, communication between Bella and Chris Chan has not been established for the time frame of April 2020 - [[:File:Bella Twitter redrawn art.jpeg|the earliest known message from Bella to Chris Chan occurred in July 2020]].
*It was initially written that Bella had other plans to kill Chris. This was based on edgy A-logging comments she had made. In some, she said she wanted Praetor members to convince him to cut off his penis, and also hoping that he would die from a gender reassignment surgery accident.<ref name=animation>{{cite farms|thread=79414|post=8539683|title=YT 11/13/20 - Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation}}</ref> However, no proof has been found that Bella had been serious with her remarks. In another set of comments, Bella's friend Allen joked about there being a plan to suicide Chris and Bella played along.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> No evidence has been found that either had been serious with their remarks. Allen also claimed that he and Bella had been joking.
*It was initially written that Bella had a blackmail plot involving the [[Incest Call]], in conjunction with another rumor that Bella wanted to record Chris having sex with Fiona. Both rumors are false and were created by gossipers misreading chatlogs.
*It was initially written that Bella self-assigned her bodyguard role for [[Everfree Northwest]], however Chris had assigned her the role.<ref>[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]</ref>
*It is believed by some that Bella had an incest fetish. However, whether or not Bella was actually into incest is unclear. This in part seems to come from an incest fanfiction that she had allegedly created under the account '''narutoisgay77897''', which involves a father-son relationship between Naruto characters. However, the link between this account and Bella is unclear, and the account itself has "Im into engineering and electromagnetism and shit but u wont find any of that shit here, only gay hentai bitches." as its description, suggesting that it could be a troll account, if created by her. The account therefore cannot be used to prove this, as its legitimacy is questionable.
*It was once written on the [[Discord]] page that Bella was a member of the [[Discord#Official CWCki Server|Official CWCki Server]] before the call. This was loosely based off a former policy on the server where mentioning or talking about her was prohibited. Moderators had temporarily enacted it due to receiving a report on harassment from Discord and thought the report had been filed by Bella.

==[[Jail Saga]]==
* Chris went to jail, not prison, for the [[incest]] charge. While many people casually use the terms interchangeably, American English distinguishes them. A jail generally serves a county or region of a state, and it houses people awaiting their sentences, misdemeanants, and some non-violent felons. A prison is generally either operated by the state or a contractor, and it houses people with longer or more severe sentences.
** These institutions also have different cultures: inmates in jail have the opportunity to work in the kitchen, laundry room, or other maintenance roles, typically rewarded to only the best behaved inmates, and often something that they want to do to pass the time and earn a little money (or enjoy " trusty" status). In prisons in many states, however, work is an expectation, and the prison may be attached to a factory, farm, or call center.
* 2021's [[Affair with Mother]] was far from the first time Chris has ever been arrested or spent time in custody.
* Chris has never attempted to escape from prison.
* Chris's case was dismissed, but not for confirmed innocence; Chris was given [[Autism disorder deferred disposition]].
* Chris was not charged with rape.
* Chris appears to have had a felony charge for the duration of legal proceedings until the deferred disposition led to it being dropped. It was speculated that Chris's case was a misdemeanor at one point but there is no proof of this, and in fact, court procedures and reporting from ''Daily Progress'' are consistent with a felony charge throughout.

==[[Jeff Ouzuo]]==
*Jeff/Francine did not create the ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'' fangame. It was the CWCki Forums user Maple. Because of Chris declaring this, several people came to believe that Jeff/Francine was Maple.



==[[Lainchu]]==
*The Lainchu character wasn't a troll persona. The character itself was created by Chris as a coping mechanism for the purpose of explaining certain events in his life. Chris entrusted the Watchmen to control Lainchu so that he could be "chronicled" properly. The Watchmen later used the persona with the intention of documenting select chats with his permission, and later for observers to ask him questions by proxy when he got banned from the CWCki Discord server.
*It was once written on [[The WCT]]'s page that he was the primary Lainchu, though this was incorrect. He had attempted to steal the role from [[Anaxis]] but Chris rejected the attempt.

==[[Liquid Chris]]==

*It is often stated that Liquid Chris was a single person. In actuality, Liquid was played by a set of twins, Christopher and Jon Duckworth. While Christopher played as Chris in Youtube videos and PVCC chats, Jon played Liquid during the Sing-Star Challenge.
*While [[The Miscreants]] (group of trolls including the one behind Clyde Cash) would claim Liquid Chris, the brothers and girlfriend behind Liquid Chris and Kacey alike appear to have started their trolling independently, after Christopher Duckworth began comically impersonating Chris Chan.
*Liquid Chris started impersonating Chris a month before the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, and was barely influenced by this video.

==[[Megan Schroeder]]==
*It is often stated that Chris ruined his friendship with her by posting [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. In reality, their friendship had already been long deteriorating at that point; [[Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007|email correspondences]] from that period show that Megan was already getting sick of Chris's creepy behavior and [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] have stated that Megan was already avoiding Chris before the photo was posted online. SheCameForCWC.jpg was just the point where things came to such a head that Megan was forced to cut off all contact with Chris.
*It later surfaced that Chris did not shred the physical copy of SheCameForCWC.jpg before placing it in the [[Crumple-Lope]], but neatly cut it into squares.
*It is often stated that Megan was the only legitimate female friend that Chris had that wasn't a troll. While Megan is the most well-known one, this is ignoring people in Chris's life like [[Anna McLerran]], [[The Wallflower]], [[Fiona Cooper]], the [[Pokémon League friends]], [[Tings Tingz]], [[MKRNightVee]], [[Helena Fiorenza]], [[Midnight Moonflower]], and [[Flutter]].

==[[Monthly Tugboat]]==
*It was previously written on the page that Chris would earn more money overall if he got an actual job and didn't rely solely on the tugboat. This however was built off of a number of assumptions and speculative information.
*Bob did not actually believe that Chris would make more money off of the Tugboat, and actually was hoping that Chris would find actual employment, expressing being impressed at Chris's computer literacy and him obtaining two CADD degrees.<ref>[[Bob Call 6]]</ref>

==[[Niggos]]==
*Chris had never said the word "nigger" outside of troll interference. He also never said the phrase "no darkies". This came from a piece of fan art parodying his [[Attraction Sign|attraction sign]].

==[[Null]]==
*Null is often attributed for being the one to stop the [[Idea Guys]], thus ending their saga. However, this was actually achieved by [[The Captain]].

==[[OfficialCWCmart]]==
*It is often said that Chris only makes 7% off of the sales from OfficialCWCMart. However, this estimate conflates his royalty from the Praetor-made medallions with the stuff that he makes himself. It is currently unknown how much of the content sold on the Etsy was from Chris collaborating with Praetor.

==[[Pedofork]]==
*Although not impossible, all evidence of Chris being a pedophile so far comes from untrustworthy sources or instances where trolls pressured him into saying such things, so it is unwise to assume so.

==[[Praetor]]==
*[[Larry Vaughn]]'s claims about Praetor were once written on their article. However, he based these claims off of things that were said verbatim by [[Bella]], a known habitual liar who has on several occasions lied about her own associates. A few such claims include:
**Praetor were a group of trolls akin to the [[Idea Guys]] or the [[Teen Troon Squad]]
**They produced a lot of their merchandise in a "nasty basement".
**Larry's plan to send Chris to Florida was approved by Caden.
**Chris roleplayed as Sonichu at all times.
**Chris was still going after his high school gal-pals to the point of people needing to change their profiles.
**Chris was tazing himself out of fear that the Dimensional Merge wasn't going to happen.
*It is often stated that [[Bella]] was a member of Praetor due to the fact that she was commissioned by them to create an animation, and the fact that Larry Vaughn cited her as such. Despite this, Bella was never involved in any of their other projects.

==[[Rocky Shoemaker]]==
*It was once written on Rocky's article that she had used BlueSky, and that Chris had blocked her account. In actuality this was an imposter account that was created with the intent on trolling Chris.

==[[Sylvana Rosechu]]==
*It is often mistakenly believed that Sylvana always had a penis. In reality, she started out as a female Rosechu, but Chris introduced the lore of being made intersex in [[Sonichu 8]], where she had the ability to give herself a penis or a vagina at will, as a component of her ability to shapeshift. This was a condition from Count Graduon that she lose her ability to give birth. Similar to Rosechu, however, Silvana was often portrayed with a penis by trolls to exploit Chris's distaste for [[Hermaphrodite|hermaphrodites]].
*It is sometimes stated that Sylvana Rosechu was created to represent all of the instances that Chris was catfished by trolls, with a scene in [[Sonichu 10]], where Chris is "trolled" by being seduced by her disguised as [[Meg Griffin]], often being brought up as evidence for this. However, Chris has also stated that his intention for that scene was that Sylvana was "all female" when she seduced him. Some of Chris's interactions with trolls also seem to indicate that Sylvana's ability was a result of troll influence. Chris has stated that he prefers to have fans draw her with a vagina instead of a penis, and the infamous drawing of her masturbating was a commission from [[Sarah May]], who bribed Chris to make the drawing and similar drawings to get his website back.

==[[Taser]]==
*It is believed by some that Praetor wanted to get Chris to tase himself. In actuality, Chris had discussed plans with Watchmen members [[Naught]] and [[Kyle]] about plans to shock his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] quartz crystals in order to open up a portal to another dimension, citing a Gaia article about ancient civilizations using piezoelectricity to open up portals. Chris wanted to borrow a taser from Praetor to tase the crystals. Praetor was initially willing to allow him to use it under their supervision. The rumor that they wanted to get him to tase himself was first started by the Watchmen leader [[Naught]], who had posted out-of-context clips of Watchmen members talking to the founder and leader of Praetor, [[Caden Peck]], and alleging that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed". Naught had also left out a clip where the Watchman Val Valentino brought up the subject, and is asking if Chris would tase himself, and Caden Peck discussing how he felt it would be a bad idea. Interestingly, [[Isabella Janke]], a minor member of Praetor, had also spread a rumor that she had tried convincing Praetor members to get Chris to harm himself by getting him to cut his penis off, while claiming she was only "recruited".

==[[The Wallflower]]==
*The Wallflower policy appears sometimes to get conflated with the Suitress policy, where it is often stated that Fiona asked for people to censor her. In actuality, Fiona never made such requests to anyone.
*The Wallflower policy wasn't set up out of "respect" for the Wallflower, as the CWCki has no obligation to protect people arbitrarily; it was done as a personal request from her to CWCki admins after editors shared information about her that wasn't relevant to Chris; in addition to Chris persistently stating he was in a relationship with her; due to her unintentionally being associated with him. Additionally, the policy is primarily enforced solely on the CWCki and its Discord server.
*Contrary to popular belief, the Wallflower policy did allow users to utilize the Wallflower's identity to some degree, particularly if omitting such information might affect the clarity of information surrounding Chris. Many transcripts that didn't reference Chris being in a "relationship" with her were transcribed faithfully, utilizing her first name, and several pages on this wiki also still use art and images that utilize her face. The page [[CWCki:The Wallflower|meant to explain the Wallflower policy]] also admits that attempting to censor the Wallflower in full is not only impossible, but even detrimental to documenting Chris.
*Chris never referred to the Wallflower as "Lovely Weather". This misconception was a result of people assuming the [[Lovely Weather|character of the same name]] from the comics was based on the Wallflower. However, Chris has denied any connection between them.

==[[The WCT]]==

One of the primary members of the [[Watchmen]].

*It was initially written that The WCT wanted Chris to kill himself. This originated from a rumor spread by [[MKRNightVee]], his former associate in the Watchmen Discord server [[The Place]]. In June 2021, the [[Watchmen]] clique was infighting over [[Naught]] posting The WCT's dox onto Kiwi Farms. WCT responded by informing Chris, who left The Place. Angry over this development, MKR took to Twitter to spread a rumor that WCT "probably wants Chris to kill himself".<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref> A month later, the rumor was further spurred by Kiwi Farms forum posters, who assumed from both MKR's rumor and WCT's interactions with Bella (who had claimed on at least two occasions to want to get Chris to harm himself or commit suicide) that WCT was in on Bella's supposed plots. Despite this, no evidence has surfaced that WCT knew of Bella's claimed plots.
*It was initially written in a few articles that Chris had directly contributed to the mass doxing of Fiona by sharing one of her pictures with the WCT. Chris, although posting her photograph to him, would also refer to her by her pen name, "Fifi Vixenhart". The WCT wouldn't have become aware of her real name, or actually dox her, until later, when Bella had told him in the [[Regarding Chris]] chats that Fiona was the sole provider of fabricated texts where Chris states he's done BDSM on Barb while she was doxing her on multiple websites. The WCT would post one of Fiona's videos and use her first name, partially revealing her identity and bringing attention from trolls onto her.
*It was initially written that The WCT had been recruited into Bella's [[Chess Club]] Discord server. He had actually been invited into a separate server, [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]]. This error was based on mislabeled folders of Discord server chatlogs which were passed around on Kiwi Farms - the folders were labelled "Chess Club" and "Chess Club ft Fiona and CWC", however the actual content was [[Chess Club]] and [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]] chatlogs.
*The WCT is often misquoted as proclaiming himself as being "the final protagonist of Christory", which was often used as evidence for knowing that Chris was going to commit suicide. In actuality, in his boasting, he proclaimed himself as "'''one of the final''' protagonists", proclaiming that his work will be held in high regard in Geno's documentary, and be compared to figures such as [[Null]]. Additionally, he said this in reference to the Watchmen's belief that Barb's death would be the end of Christory, a belief that WCT had held strongly.
**Likewise, it was also believed that when he titled his pre-jail interview with Chris as the "Final Pre-Jail interview", he also meant this as knowing Chris was going to commit suicide, ignoring the fact that this was indeed the last interview he had with Chris before he went to jail.

==[[Transgender]]==

Chris' shift in gender identity and subsequent identification as a lesbian/bisexual transwoman has been a subject of intense debate and scrutiny within and outside of LGBT+ circles, with some believing that it is yet another act designed to enable him to shack up with lesbian women, and still others claiming that Chris openly admitted that this was the case. While the possibility of the former cannot be entirely discounted, no known admission of this nature has ever been made by Chris personally, and none of the assorted chat logs and correspondences leaked since Chris began his transition suggest this either.
*It is often stated that Chris admitted to adopting a [[transgender]] identity solely so that he could hook up with lesbians. This appears to be a confusion for an answer that Chris had posted to a question on [[OkCupid]], where he states that if he were to raise a "[[hermaphrodite]]", a term which he has used to refer to trans women, he'd raise them as a male so that they can pick up women (including lesbians).<ref group = note>The exact thing that Chris said, when answering whether or not intersex children should get surgery , was: "If a Hermaphrodite, I would raise it to be male regardless since it would not have any eggs anyway. Plus big bonus for (him) in sex with all women (lesbians included I would imagine)."</ref>
*Many suggest that "Christine" is a fake name. It is in fact his legal first name as of 2016. The CWCki, however, still uses "Chris" and (to a lesser extent) "Christian" for consistency.
*While Chris has shown early signs of dysphoria, going far back to his times at [[Manchester High]], these shouldn't be taken as a singular cause for it.

==[[Trolls]]==
*Some of Chris's trolls, particularly most of the Miscreants, are often represented as figures that tried to "help" Chris. It should be noted that any mention they make of this is mostly tongue-in-cheek, as their primary goal was that of any other [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] troll, to get a rise out of Chris.

==[[Watchmen]]==

*The Watchmen are often misleadingly referred to as an organization of enablers. In reality, the "Watchmen" were a clique of Chris's most prominent enablers and white knights, who had used several different Discord servers. The name "Watchmen" was created directly after some its members were discovered, and connected to previous groups such as [[Son of the Miscreants]] and [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]], as a sort of allusion to [[the Miscreants]]. The WCT, with the intent of cutting ties with the others in the "Watchmen", also dropped the name entirely when he established the Knights of CWC, which had a similar set-up, but a fundamentally different philosophy when handling Chris orbiters.

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*... that [[Chris Chan Update 24 September 2008|Chris had unintentionally rickrolled the internet with his song for]] [[PandaHalo]]?
*... that [[List of Christian's edits to the CWCki#GodofThunderGodofWar|this webiste, the CWCki, is a LOAD OF BULL]]?
*... that Chris got [[Polyamorous marriage|married]]... [[Magi-Chan|to]] [[Cryzel Rosechu|five]] [[Mewtwo|of]] [[Sylvana|his]] [[imaginary friends]] [[Helena Fiorenza#Pickchu|and an enabler-made OC]]?
*... that [[Chris and religion|God and Jesus]] [[Chris's Letter to Blanca|told]] Chris that [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] was to be his TRUE and HONEST [[sweetheart]]?
*... that a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|Forgiveness Blessing]] can counter the extreme bad luck and misfortune associated with the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] attack?
*... that [[Misc E-mails#Uri Geller Emails|Uri Geller]], a famed magician, tried to give Chris a reality check when he sought psychic training?
*... that [[Autism Awareness E-mails|Chris is capable of taking care of himself]]?
*... that Chris once attended a [[Chris and mental healthcare#Relationship Management Classes|Relationship Management Class]] intended for couples?
*... that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] wanted Chris to [[THAT IS MY HOUSE#Uncut|shut that goddamn thing off]]?
**... and that Chris was working on it!?
*... that Chris did not discover [[Mass debating|masturbation]] until the age of 16?
|1=
*... that Chris has performed [[Dick Licker; that is I|oral sex on Magi-Chan]]?
*... that [[BlueSpike]] was the [[weens|ween]] in the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4mkAw9Be-k JULAAAAAAAY call]?
*... that [[JenkinsJinkies]] is definitely '''NOT''' Chris?
*... that Chris was no longer [[So Need a Cute Girl|stuck as a]] [[virgin with rage]] after [[Mia Hamm|hiring a prostitute]]?
*... that Chris will never get to return the favor by dancing with [[Tiffany Gowen]] at their [[high school]] reunion?
*... that Chris has committed [[28 October 2011|assault and battery]] against [[Michael Snyder]] and [[26 December 2014|illegally pepper sprayed]] the [[Yellow-Shirted Foe]]?
*... that Chris got fired from [[Wendy's]] for scaring a small child with his [[Donald Duck impersonation]]?
*... that Chris attempted to fix [[The Oversized Drinking Straw of Fail]], and somehow made it make less sense?
*... that <s>[[Chris]]</s> <s>[[BILLY MAYS]]</s> <s>[[Allison Amber]]</s> <s>[[Brendan Fraser]]</s> <s>[[Mary Lee Walsh]]</s> [[January_2026_social_media_posts#Mayor_of_CWCville|Robbie Van Drawson]] is the Mayor of [[CWCville]]?
*... that the [[Idea Guys]] [[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris|brainwashed]] Chris into believing that [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|his imaginary daughter Crystal]] would be brought into the world by [[:File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|Chris anally raping Sonichu]]?
**... and that Chris has once fisted Sonichu as a punishment?
*... that Chris is cool with adoption, but his dream of his future daughter calls for [[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#Edit details|blood, tears and semenal descent?]]
|2=
*... that Chris was accused by [[trolls]] of killing [[BILLY MAYS]] because he took Chris' spot as Mayor of CWCville?
*... that the [[Dimensional Merge]] will bring fictional characters and [[imaginary friends]] into reality?
**... and that the new [[dimension]] will be named 1C-211987, a mashup of our current dimension 1218 and Chris's fantasy dimension C-197?
*... that Chris is [[JenkinsJinkies|as wild as a serial raper]]?
**... and that Chris tried to scare us with a ghost dog story?
**... and that Chris tried to disguise himself as a troll?
*... that the [[trolls]] may have [[2012 Poster campaign|hired a skywriter]]?
*... that Chris believes that [[CWCville]] is real?
*... that Chris, [[List of Christian's edits to the CWCki#GodofThunderGodofWar|in his own words]], buys "[[Obesity|healthy food]], [[My Coke Rewards|good]] [[Alcohol|drinks]] and [[List of toys|just]] [[Video games|necessities]] with [[Monthly tugboat|Good Money]]?"
*... that Chris once tried to get [[Nowacking|a MLP fandom voice actor]] to unblock him on [[Twitter]] by [[BronyCon 2018#Nowacking rejection|gifting a toy and a drawing]]?
|3=
*... that Chris can put his [[January 2020 social media posts#Magic Bottle|energy into crystals]] and drink that same energy to rejuvenate himself, thus creating energy in the process?
*... that Chris believes that ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'' is [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|an accurate depiction]] of [[Chris and reality|reality]]?
**... and that in the days before [[Meditation#Astral projection|Astral projection]], a dance mat in his room was [[CWCville#Geography and location|one way]] to reach CWCville?
*... that Chris’s [[BronyCon 2017#Dancing with Magi-Chan|dance partner]] in BronyCon 2017 was also an imaginary friend?
*... that Chris’s investment strategy is to [[Chris and money#Lottery|stake $8 on the lottery]] every week?
*... that despite initially despising it, ''[[My Little Pony|Equestria Girls]]'' is ranked #2 in Chris's [[August 2013 Facebook Posts#Top Movies List|Top Movies List on Facebook]]?
*... that Chris once had a strong disdain for the ''[[Harry Potter]]'' franchise [[Chris and brand loyalty|due to a perceived rivalry with]] the ''[[Pokémon]]'' franchise?
*... that Chris believes that [[The Simpsons|Lisa Simpson]] will be the President of the United States after the [[Dimensional Merge]]?
**... and that [[November 2020 social media posts#.23LisaSimpson2020|Chris seemingly voted for Lisa Simpson in the 2020 Election]], despite endorsing [[Joe Biden]] to take over the Presidency after [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]]?
*... that [[That Goatee WILL Grow Back]], even though Chris now identifies as [[transgender]] and isn't actively growing facial hair?
|4=
*... that Chris spent a lot of time in [[Chris's room|his bedroom]], in spite of a traumatic experience with [[Abusive babysitter|a babysitter locking him in there]]?
*... that YouTuber [[Geno Samuel]] has [[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History|a documentary series on Chris]] that is 85 episodes long, and still going?
**... and that Chris [[Geno Samuel DMs|has DMed him]] after seeing the series?
*... that Chris believes that he could influence the international company Hasbro to [[My Little Pony Protests|cancel a ''My Little Pony'' reboot]] because he told them that the characters didn't like being in it?
*... that Chris really [[Fridays After Five|cannot dance]]?
*... that Chris recycled his own [[semen]] by drinking it?
**... and that Chris believed that drinking Fanta before cumming would give his semen the same taste?
**... and that Chris [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|mixed semen with Fanta]]?
*... that Chris wishes you a [[Bunny Hop|hoppy Easter]]?
*... that in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], Chris called his [[Chandler Family Tree|family]] a bunch of pack rats?
*... that Chris has said [[Niggos]] only once, but has used [[Chris and race|the actual N-word]] multiple times?
**... That Chris was under the influence of [[trolls]] when he said those words?
* ... that Chris’s father's idea of kids games is [[Prank calls#Epic Crazy Lady calls Bob|Playing With Gutter Rats]] In the Sewer?
|5=
*... that Chris has been recording himself [[Chris and anger|freaking out on camera]] as early as [[Song of Christian|10th grade]]?
*... that Chris [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|stuck anal beads up his asshole]] but threw them away after using them because they were covered in shit?
*... that you should [[Believe in the OCs and Deities!|believe in the OCs]]?
*... that serial killer Ted Bundy was actually a framed [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named [[Bundychu]]?
**... and that [[Bundychu]] is friends with [[Bob Chandler]]?
*... that despite being the [[Chris and his ego|so-called]] [[CPU]] of the Commodore systems, Chris [[naive|doesn't know]] how to turn a [[Commodore 64]] on?
*... that Chris stuck his [[duck]] in some [[Cwcsicle|snow]]?
*... that [[Clyde is Weaker than Water]]?
*... that [[Alec Benson Leary]] imprisoned four [[Rosechu]]s in his [[Asperchu parodies#Basement Rosechus|basement]]?
*... that Chris drove [[Clyde Cash#Ryan|Ryan Cash]] to [[Chris and death#Suicide|suicide]] when he temporarily cancelled ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''?
*... that Chris has been to [[Finland]] on at least seven separate occasions?
**... and that Chris [[Walt's call with cwc! 5/17/25|denies ever going to the country, despite photographic evidence]]?
|6=
*... that [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] has his own [[Sonichu Amiibo|amiibo]]?
*... that [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke]]?
*... that [[A-Logging|A-Log]] is Chris-Chan 2.0?
**... and that [[Michael J. Hirtes]] is A-Log 2.0 (and thus Chris-Chan 3.0)?
*... that Chris went to [[Impulse Gay Social Club|a gay bar]] on a few occasions?
*... that the [[United States of America|American]] government pays Chris [[Monthly tugboat|$27 every single day]] to sit around the house doing little to nothing?
*... that [[My Little Pony: Make Your Mark|MLPG5 doesn't exist]] and G4 needs 5 more seasons?
*... that Chris [[Autism Awareness E-mails|doesn't have a caretaker]], despite how badly he needs one?
*... that Chris [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|reinterpreted]] one of [[Lovely Weather|his characters]] when he believed that she had taken the form of [[Jessica Quinn|his newest sweetheart]]?
*... that Chris believed he cured his [[autism]] by listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]?
*... that [[Liquid Chris]] [[Kacey Call 11|has a nine inch]] [[Pickle|penis]]?
*... that Chris [[March 2024 social media posts#Bitches and Barbussy|needs no bitches]]?
|7=
*... that Chris joined [[DeviantART]] to get in touch with choice Fan Artists?
*... that Chris believes he has [[Common Questions#26 January 2010|over a billion people]] in his [[True and Loyal Fanbase]]?
*... that Chris wanted "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" to be repealed so that [[homos]] "[[Mailbag 49|can go die in explosions]]"?
*... that Chris went to school [[Jackie Chat 9|on the short bus]]?
*... that Chris chatted on AIM with [[Vanessa Hudgens]]?
*... that Chris is a [[Chris and stress|stressed]] [[:Category:Yo! CWC Raps|homeboy]] [[Chris and the Law|imprisoned]] in lulz?
*... that Chris told [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] about his [[Bob Walks In Aftermath|masturbation]], but [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] was not as open minded on the subject?
*... that Chris [[Self-inflicted taint wound|slashed his taint]] open as part of a DIY gender transition attempt?
*... that Chris used to [[A Week With Christian Chandler|sleep in class]] (and had no shame about it)?
*... that [[Man in the Pickle Suit|the pickle man]] [[Chris Chan Update 21 October 2008|tricked Chris again]]?
*... that {{w|Andrew and James Dall Houses|the house in Cleveland}} that [[Ohio trip|Chris was tricked into visiting]] is listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
*... that #RussiaIsMLPG5; the fact that you acknowledge it puts a notch in the [[Russia|Soviet's belt]], which is not good?
|8=
*... that Chris considers the "[[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|romance]]" in his comics as his best art?
*... that Chris describes World War II as [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|"a very tragic event with guns, insults, and... yuck!"]]?
*... that Chris's [[CWC Ancestry|23andMe DNA results]] indicate that he has no [[Cherokian Clan|Cherokee]] ancestry, but is 1.3% [[Super Mario Bros.|Italian]]?
*... that Chris [[100 2278|cannot do a single pull-up]] or [[CWC 30 Push Ups|push-up]]?
*... that Chris [[Power|once knew a man from Nantucket]]?
*... that on his [[MySpace]], Chris marked his [[Obesity|fat]] contacts with "More to Love"?
*... that Chris is the [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris the Card Gamer|Level-Up King]]?
*... that [[Virginia is for Virgins]]?
*... that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] believed [[Megan Schroeder]], [[Michael Snyder]] and some [[homos]] are [[Matthew Noble call|behind all the trolling]]?
**... and that Chris [[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind|believed it too]]?
*... that Chris no longer lives at [[14 Branchland Court]] and instead lives in [[Lynchburg and Big Island, VA#Big Island|the house]] owned by [[Caden Peck]]?
|9=
*... that Chris [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|voided himself in terror in his sleep]] when he thought that [[Clyde Cash]] [[Ivy Q&A#Threats|was trying to kill him]]?
*... that [[Common Questions#31 December 2009|Chris's creative process is Random, Extensive, Tough to Comprehend sometimes]]?
*... that Chris thinks you're "[[10 September 2009|trolling stupid]]"?
*... that Chris once [[Goodwill Offering and Kindest Wishes|visited an abandoned sanatorium]] to leave an offering to the haunting spirits, only to have it removed by a [[Weening|ween]] mere hours later?
*... that Chris tried starting a career as a [[Carlos Chantor|male prostitute]]?
**... and that Chris tried starting a career as a [[Stephanie Bustcakes|female prostitute]]?
*... that Chris thinks that those with [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|Asperger's]] try to take the Shine and Limelight away from true [[Autism|autistic]] people?
*... that [[Chris Sings Fart Song for Flora|farting is OK]], and actually helps cure cancer?
*... that Chris [[PS3 Tutorial for my fans|once said that ''Pain'' is a fun game]], despite having no trophies for it on PSN?
*... that Chris once had a prostitute [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|hang up]] on him?
*... that [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call#Transcript|Vivian's gonna rape Jack with the strapon because she's crazy?]]
|10=
*... that Chris hates the word "[[Asperger syndrome|Aspergers]]" almost as much as the word "[[Naïve]]"?
**... and that Chris has no idea what [[Naïve]] actually means?
*... that [[Bryan Bash]] sent [[Hooker incident|a handful of hookers to Chris' house]]?
*... that [[Jerkhief|wooden badges]] are delicious?
*... that Chris loves [[McDonald's]], while his [[dad]] preferred [[Burger King]]?
*... that Chris's name used to be "Christopher", [[Christopher's name change|until a man in a bear suit misheard his name and called him "Christian"]]?
**... and that his [[Chris and Spanish|Spanish]] name is Ricardo?
**... and that his legal name is now [[Transgender|Christine]]?
*... that the [[Chris's Big Night Out#Grip 'n' Sip|Long Island Iced Tea]] is the official cocktail of [[Krapple|/cow/]]?
*... that [[Ivy]] was real?
*... that [[Flutter]]'s name [[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25|shall not be revealed]]?
|11=
*... that Chris really likes [[Britney Spears]] (no matter what they all say)?
**... and that his favorite song from "[[:Image:CWCSchuBrit.jpg|Air Britney]]" is "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHbCK3ETweQ E-Mail My Heart]"?
*... that [[Brushfire Video|a male idiot tried to put out a fire]] while Chris just stood there and watched?
*... that [[Liquid Chris]]'s real name is [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!]]?
**... and that Solid Chris's name is not [[Ian Brandon Anderson]]?
*... that [[Jerkop|Jerkops]] are actually mall security "in colors other than blue and black"?
*... that the ''[[Saw]]'' movies are some of [[Common Questions#31 December 2009|Chris's favorite movies]]?
*... that [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]] is a church for all of [[Chris and religion|God and Jesus]]'s children, regardless of [[Chris's birthday|age]], [[race]], [[Women's rights|gender]], [[Chris and money|socio-economic]] [[Financhu Crisis|situation]], or [[homos|sexual orientation]]?
*... that [[Bob Chandler]] helped host the [[WTJU Marathon]] back in [[1990s#1990|1990]]?
*... that Chris's [[duck]] [[Jackie E-mails 23|is bigger than previously photographed, and is no longer bent]]?
*... that [[OfficialCWCmart|Chris]] sells [[14 Branchland Court|driveway gravel]] for $15 a bag?
**... and that [[Ween|people]] actually buy it?
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*... that Chris's [[Donald Duck impersonation]] is the most terrifying thing in existence?
*... that Chris's failure is in defiance of genetics: his [[Bob Chandler|father]] was an engineer who published seven patents; his half-brothers are [[David Alan Chandler|a doctor]] and [[Cole Smithey|a film reviewer]]; and his [[Carol Chandler|half-sister]] is a [[Autism|mathematician]]?
*... that [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] has his own [[Sonichu the Animated Series|animated series]]?
*... that [[Evan]] killed [[Simonla Rosechu|Mommy]]?
*... that Chris can handle getting [[University of Virginia|fake numbers]] from girls because of ''[[Seinfeld]]''?
*... that Chris originally was a [[Chris's Wikipedia profile#College Time|marketing major]] (which he picked at random) before picking [[CADD]] when he enrolled at [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]?
**... and that he [[Father Call|didn't know]] what kind of jobs one could get with a CADD certificate?
*... that [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel the Witch]] isn't blonde with devil horns, she has grey hair and wears a horned helmet?
*... that Chris actually [[Chris and copyright|copyrighted]] Sonichu?
*... that Chris should have changed the oil in [[Son-Chu|his car]] in [[April 2009]], but still hasn't done it?
**... and that he's overdue for it [[Son-Chu#Chevrolet Aveo|even in his newest car]]?
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*... that [[Yawning Squirtle]] sells the best [[Tobacky|weed]] in [[CWCville]]?
**... and that [[Weed|weed]] is an instant life sentence in maximum security prison?
*... that Chris [[Imaginary friends|had a conversation with]] [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] while in a meeting with [[Mary Lee Walsh]]?
**... and that Chris fired a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] at Walsh [[Jackie Chat 5|in the same meeting]]?
**... and that this incident is what got him suspended from [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]?
*... that Chris insulted a [[CWC Calls Out Three Naïve YouTubers|mentally disabled]] fan?
*... that for [[Christmas]] [[2004]], Chris asked Santa for a [[girlfriend]]?
**... and that on Christmas Day 2004, Chris became depressed because he didn't get one?
*... that Chris was hoping to celebrate his birthday and eat pancakes instead of attending his [[Aunt Corrina]]'s funeral the same day?
*... that Chris believes himself to be a descendant of [[Anne Boleyn]], Queen of England?
**... and that Chris also believes [[Daniel Weston|one of his ancestors]] sailed aboard the ''Mayflower''?
*... that [[Keffals]] is an enabler of Chris at least since the [[Second Coming]]?

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*... that Chris and [[Jacob Sockness]] aren't dating... yet?
*... that Chris believes that [[Sex toys|butt plugs]] are linked with [[IRC (27 December 2008)|spontaneous human combustion]]?
*... that [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] was [[Christian's Update 13 September 2008|real]]?
*... that Chris attempted to [[dox]] multiple people, while not realizing that just posting a list of Twitter handles isn't doxing?
*... that [[Barbara Chandler]] won the [[:Image:419-CWCWeekP13.jpg|Mother of the Year 2000 award]]?
*... that Chris has dreamed about [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|having sex with his mom]]?
**... and that Chris [[Affair with Mother|has been charged with having sex with his mom]]?
**... and Chris got those charges dismissed?
*... that Chris believes if ''[[My Little Pony]]'' G4 isn't renewed to Season 14, [[Akan]] will [[My Little Pony Protests|invade Equestria]] and eventually [[1218|our own universe]]?
**... and that [[My Little Pony: Make Your Mark|G5]] has caused World War III?
*... that [[Barb]] [[Mumble 2#A Wild Snorlax Appears|sings while vacuuming]]?
*... that Chris [[McIntire Park|throws rocks at women]] to attract them?
*... that Chris is practically blacklisted from being mentioned on [[Wikipedia]]?
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*... that even now, Chris does not think he is [[Obesity|fat]]?
*... that [[Sarah Jackson]], Chris's sweetheart and a Decepticon, was brutally murdered by [[Optimus Prime]]?
*... that Chris loves to give [[CWC Blog#29 November 2009|dating advice]] to [[Manchester High School|high schoolers]] in spite of never having been on [[Dating Education|a real date]] as a teenager or an adult?
*... that Chris repeatedly dreamt his [[sweetheart]] amid a [[Quizzes#Christian Weston Chandler Quiz|watery maze]]?
**... and that Chris [[Autism|expects his fans to know]] what happens in his [[dreams]]?
*... that Chris [[Chris lost Crystal|recorded himself screaming at a toilet]]?
*... that Chris has a fourth love doll, [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|Yumi]]?
*... that Chris claims to weigh [[WeighIn|216 pounds]]?
*... that [[June 2015|Sega knows]] about [[Sonic Boom Protests|Chris's attempts]] to [[Keep Sonic Original|change Sonic's]] [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!|arms back]]?
*... that Chris rates jail [[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)| a 2/5]]?
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*... that [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]] have a [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys COMEBACK!|second album]]?
**... and that [[Robee Sonee and the Tomgirls]] serves as the spiritual successor to that band?
**... and that [[July 2021 social media posts#Chris and the Hedgehog Zaps concert|Chris and the Hedgehog Zaps]] is another spiritual successor to that band?
*... that Chris [[Homos|used to be a massive Homophobe]]?
**... and that Chris is now a proud member of the [[SLGBTQ]] community?
*... that Chris is a fan of [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO1ITICo8MLHGAXR1uzFwjA OneyPlays], and [[OneyPlays Twitter Voice Clip|was amused by their impersonation of him]]?
*... that Chris spent nearly an entire year of his life [[Spirit possession|pretending to be possessed]] by [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]?
*... that [[Ivy]] got Chris to watch ''[[Anime#The End of Evangelion|The End of Evangelion]]''?
*... that Chris purged all the comments from his [[Flipnote Hatena|Flipnotes]], except a poem from a [[Gal pal|random girl]] which [[Chris and his ego|praised him]]?
*... that he [[So Need a Cute Girl|never wants to hear you say]], "[[Boyfriend-free girl|I have a boyfriend]]"?
*... that [[BABSCon]] staff framed and displayed Chris's futile attempts for them to allow Chris to attend the event?
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*... that Chris got tricked into [[Shout out to Fans in Hospital|making a shout-out video]] dedicated to {{w|Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold|the Columbine shooters}}?
*... that ''[[Brutal Legend Plus|Brütal Legend]]'' rocks?
*... that Chris was featured on {{w|Fox News}}?
*... that Chris completed a commission tied to the [[:File:July12Fundraiser1.jpg|Sneed's Feed and Seed]] joke from [[The Simpsons]]?
*... that [[CWCville]] is pronounced as "quick-ville"?
*... that Chris believes that lolcow and spree killer [[Randy Stair]] (AKA [[November 2020 social media posts#Dimensional merge stuff|Andrew]] [[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Has Randy Stair gotten more popular since his death?|Blaze]]) was aware of the [[Dimensional Merge]]?
*... that [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] made a cameo in a {{w|Dodie (singer)|dodie}} music video?
*... that [[Guitar Hero]] is Chris's source for [[List of Chris's Rhapsody.com downloads|new music]]?
*... that Chris reenacted [[CopperCab]]'s [[Re-enactment - Gingers Have Souls|Gingers have Souls]] video?
*... that Chris [[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.|punched multiple holes in his wall]] to try to break through the [[Iron Curtain]]?
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*... that the [[trolls]] behind the [[Liquid Chris]] and [[Kacey]] personas actually got married to each other in real life?
*... that Chris thinks that obscure box office flop ''[[The Adventures of The American Rabbit]]'' is one of the greatest animated movies ever made?
*... that the [[My Little Pony|brony convention]] [[Everfree Northwest]] banned Chris after learning that [[Affair with Mother|he banged]] [[Barbara Chandler|his own mom]]?
**...and that [[BABSCon]] did the same thing in [[2024]] after Chris attempted to purchase tickets for the event?
*... that Chris has no idea what [[Autism]] really is?
*... that Chris has used a ruler to [[Mumble 8|measure]] his [[duck]], but never once in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]]?
*... that when a Sonichu or Rosechu drives, they drive a [[Sonichu 11|Hybrid]]?
*... that [[Kick the Autistic]] is America's favorite game?
*... that Chris used a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] for the first time in nearly a decade [[CLog 10042017 - Q&A NO MORE|after breaking up with]] [[Jessica Quinn]]?
*... that someone hacked into Chris's [[YouTube]] account and uploaded excerpts of [[A-Logging|Anthony LoGatto's]] [[For Julie's Eyes Only|"JULAAAY!"]] video [[Jail Saga|while he was in jail]]?
*... that infamous lolcow [[Ethan Ralph]] [[Jail Saga#Arrest|caught Chris's arrest on a livestream]] just to spite his former friend [[Null]]?
*... that Chris was originally going to voice the Grease Puddle in [[Chris in the media#Smiling Friends|Smiling Friends]]?
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*... that Chris [[Jail Letter - 30 November 2021 (Celestia)|foresaw your letter long ago]]?
*... that Chris sends [[Holy Labels]] to people who send him letters to help them purify their drinks?
*... that Chris had an actual [[Fiona Cooper|True and Honest Sweetheart]] that got him arrested?
*... that Chris believes himself to be an incarnation of [[Chris and religion|Jesus of Nazareth]]?
*... that a group of trolls tried to [[Jail Letter - 3 October 2021|convert Chris to Islam]] in jail?
*... that Chris continues [[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021|his begging]] for hand-outs to [[debt|sustain the financial situation of 14BC]] even from behind bars?
**... and [[Barb]] hasn't gotten [[Jail Letter - 27 November 2021| a cent]]?
*... that the [[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (Stories from the Penitentiary)|Bible is ''The Simpsons'' and the Qur'an is ''Family Guy'']]?
*... that [[Son-Chu]] got totalled from Barb not giving right-of-way?
*... that Chris updated the Ten Commandments?
*... that Chris [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|implied the trolling was worse]] than being [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|pinned down by 5 teachers]] and [[Kick the autistic|having his screams recorded for their amusement]]?
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*... that Chris [[November 2023 social media posts#Criticizing Kiwi Farms, "I am not a Lolcow"|denies being a lolcow]]?
*... that [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] [[Jail Letter - 11 January 2022|is a reincarnation of Merlin the magician]]?
*... that Chris can [[Masturbation discussions|feel how sad and horny he is]] in his heart and solar plexus chakra?
*... that Chris [[Gruppenfuhrer Fegelein chat|admits]] [[Women's Rights]] didn't exist in [[CWCville]] until [[2017]]?
**... and that he blames it on the past Chris?
*... that Chris spent $6,267.09 on [[toys]] during the [[Financhu Crisis]], which [[Chris and money|could have paid off half the amount his creditors were suing him for]]?
*... that Chris's full name and description is [[Jail Letter - 4 January 2022|"Mrs. Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu, the Goddess Blue Heart of the Commodore Consoles, and the nations of Old Comma and Cwcville, Guardian of the Sonichu & Rosechu Species, and Immortal avatar, Lord, Messiah, Savior, and God of all"]]?
*... that the [[COVID-19]] pandemic [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|was engineered]] by [[Jacob Sockness]]?
*... that [[Count Graduon]] is the embodiment of Chris's disappointment towards his high school graduation?
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*... that [[Bob Chandler|Bob Chandler's]] ''alma mater'' is a Bachelor's in Electrical Engineering from Auburn University? (roll tide)
*... that Chris once compared [[Father Call|carrying your dead friend on your back to safety to the struggle of moving furniture?]]
*... that [[Trolls|trolls]] once presented a script of a video [[Twin Falling Towers|mocking 9/11 in order to threaten Clyde Cash]] to Chris, and then Chris ''created and released it for them?''
*... that Chris's [[Chandler Family Tree|family tree]] includes six people that fought for the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War, and that among those six, one owned ''twenty-one slaves?''
*... that [[BILLY MAYS]] is absolutely [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS#IRC Transcript|PERPLEXED THAT YOU WOULD OFFER THAT INFORMATION?]]
*... [[Monthly tugboat|that the government lended Chris at least $1,300 each month from 2010 until (presumably) 2023?]]
*... that Chris sold at least 2,000 items from July 2025 to July 2026 on his [[OfficialCWCmart|Etsy shop]]?
*... that [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|the US and Japan really wanted to get it on]]?
*... that [[Praetor]] [[OfficialCWCmart#Handmade Sonichu Medallion, WITH MEGASTONE|is selling Sonichu Medallions for $110]]?
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Chandler Family Tree

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[[File:Chrisfamilytree.png|thumb|Chris' family tree up to his great-great-grandparents|600x600px]]
Chris's ideas about his ancestry and lineage unsurprisingly differ greatly from what is known to be true.

Family members who live(d) after Chris was born can be found at [[Minor Family Members]].

==What Chris Actually Believes==
This '''Chandler Family Tree''' includes pets and people [[Chris]] ''imagines'' to be related to him:

[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|Ancient leader]] [[Anne Boleyn]],
[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|of the]] [[Anne Boleyn|Queen of England]]──────Mary Boleyn
[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|Cherokee Clan]] │
│ ???
│ │
│ {{w|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland|Richard Weston,}}
│ {{w|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland|1st Earl of Portland}}
??? │
│ ???
│ │
│ [[Daniel Weston]]
│ │
Robert Jean ???
Franklin-----------Hollomon │
Chandler Sr. │ Chandler ├────────────────────────────────────┬─────────┬─────────────────────┐
│ │ │ │ │
Patricia [[Bob Chandler|Robert]] [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] Jack Ran [[Aunt Corrina|Corrina]] Harriett Tom [[Minor_Family_Members#Uncle_Raymond|Raymond]]
Chandler---------[[Bob Chandler|Franklin]]------------[[Barbara Chandler|Anne]]-----------Dale or Coleman [[Aunt Corrina|Weston]] Ashby-----Ashby [[Minor_Family_Members#Uncle_Raymond|Weston]]
│ [[Bob Chandler|Chandler Jr.]] │ [[Barbara Chandler|Weston]] │ Smithey Yeatts │
┌───────────┤ ┌─────┴─────┐ │ │
│ │ │ │ │ │
[[David Alan Chandler|David]] [[Carol Suzanne Chandler|Carol]] [[Christopher's name change|Christopher]] [[Chandler Cats|cats]] [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] [[Minor_Family_Members#Jonathan_Carey|Jonathan]]
[[David Alan Chandler|Alan]] [[Carol Suzanne Chandler|Suzanne]] [[Christian Weston Chandler|Weston]] [[Cole Smithey|Smithey]] [[Minor_Family_Members#Jonathan_Carey|Carey]]
[[David Alan Chandler|Chandler]] [[Carol Suzanne Chandler|Chandler]] [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chandler]]
│ │
│ ┌─────┴─────┬───────────┬───────────┬───────────┐
│ │ │ │ │ │
[[Savannah]] [[Patti Chandler|Patti]] [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]-----[[Rosechu]] [[Reginald Chandler|Reginald]]
[[Savannah|Chandler]] [[Patti Chandler|Chandler]] [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Weston]] │ [[Reginald Chandler|Chandler]]
[[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Chandler]] │
┌─────┴─────┬───────────┐
│ │ │
[[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|Cerah]] [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|Christine]] [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|Robbie]]

==Poké Family Tree==

[[Image:457-FamilyTreeTitle.JPG|thumb|Poké Family Tree]]
[[Image:456-FamilyTreeAndCar.JPG|thumb|Poké Family Tree]]

Chris naturally drew his family tree in the form of [[Pokémon]]. He gives pilgrim hats to those on the Weston side and feathered headdresses to those on the Chandler side, both in reference to the extremely [[Daniel Weston|dubious]] [[Cherokian Clan|tales]] of Chris's heritage.

Below is a transcription with the format ''Name / Date of Birth / Description / Culture and Pokemon''.

; Top row

* [[Cole Smithey]] / born 7.24.1969 / Likes to play drums. Movie reviewer for New York Newspaper / English Pilgrim Electabuzz
* [[Chris|Christian W. Chandler]] / born 2.24.82 / Likes [[Pokemon]], [[Sonic]], and [Mario?]. 12th Grade student at [[Manchester High]] / Pikachu with Both Pilgrim and [[Cherokian Clan|Native American]] garb.
* [[Carol Suzanne Chandler|Carol Chandler]] / born 7.7.64 in [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] / Math wiz at college. / Native American Wigglytuff
* [[David Alan Chandler|Allen Chandler]] [sic] / born 11.28.62 in Roanoke / ophthalmologist / Native American Alakazam

; Row 2

* [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom|Harriett Ashby]] / born ?.?.? / Administrative Assistant. Married to Tom Ashby / English Pilgrim Clefable
* [[Barbara|Barbara W. Chandler]] / born ?.?.? / ??? / English Pilgrim [[Pokémon#Snorlax|Nidoqueen]]
* [[Bob|Robert F. Chandler]] / born 2.9.1928 / Retired Engineer. Likes old music. / Native American Nidoking

; Row 3

* Carrie Edna Weston / ? / ? / English Pilgrim Clefairy
* Joseph Otto Weston / ? / ? / English Pilgrim Haunter
* Jean Holloman Chandler / ? / ? / Native American Vulpix
* Robert F. Chandler Sr. / ? / ? / Native American Farfetch’d

; Row 4

* Victoria Wynn / ? / ? / English Pilgrim Victreebell
* Robert Wynn / ? / ? / English Pilgrim Fearow
* ? / ? / ? / English Pilgrim Missingno
* ? / ? / ? / English Pilgrim Dugtrio
* Frances Holloman / ? / ? / Native American Jynx
* J Holloman / ? / ? / Native American Porygon
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Jigglypuff
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Sandslash

; Row 5

* ? / ? / ? / Native American Missingno
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Exeggutor
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Missingno
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Kadabra

; Bottom row

* ? / ? / ? / Native American Missingno
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Hitmonlee
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Nidorina
* ? / ? / ? / Native American Persian

== Actual family tree ==
Basic ancestry of Chris is depicted in this tree.

Imaginary people removed:

[[File:Harvey Powers updated family tree.gif]]

A full-sized family tree going back many generations [https://imgur.com/gallery/0BgQLyH can be viewed here]<ref>[https://www.geni.com/people/Robert-Chandler-Jr/6000000004391419048 Bob's Ancestors]</ref><ref>[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chandler-5468 Bob's Immediate Family]</ref><ref>[http://www.ellerfamilyassociation.com/getperson.php?personID=I141&tree=christian2 Chris's Maternal Grandmother]</ref><ref>[https://www.richmond.com/news/local/hanover/mechanicsville-local/obituaries/william-gryder/article_d1f3f188-3241-11e6-8986-bf6ec13073c1.html One of Chris's Maternal Uncles by Marriage]</ref>.

== Notable ancestors ==
This section lists Chris' ancestors in chronological order from most to least recent death. Ancestors who fought for the Confederate States of America are listed separately, in the "Dixiechus" section.

=== Robert Wynn ===
Barbara's maternal grandfather '''Robert Pettus Wynn''' (17 Nov 1882 - 20 Jan 1954) was allegedly a two-timing [[Alcohol|drunk]] and moonshiner who "failed to provide even the most basic support for his wife and children".<ref>http://www.harveypowers.com/genealogy/roots/individual.html#118</ref> In his death certificate, his profession is given as [[tobacco]] farmer.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/238604751/robert-pettis-wynn</ref>

=== John James Hollomon ===
[[File:John James Hollomon.jpg|thumb|right|150px|John James Hollomon in 1910]]
Bob's maternal grandfather '''John James Hollomon''' (3 May 1868 - 16 Mar 1950) <ref>[https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10638068/john-james-hollomon]</ref> was born in {{w|Meigs County, Tennessee}} but lived most of his later life in {{w|Wylie, Texas}}, a city and suburb in {{w|Collin County, Texas|Collin County}} and {{w|Dallas}} respectively. He was a well-known local pharmacist in the Collin county for over 50 years. He married twice in his life, first to Mary Francis Hollomon (née Teer 10th March 1872 - 3 Jul 1914), the daughter of a doctor specializing in osteopathic, whom he had 4 children including Jean Hollomon, Bob's mother. In 1915 he married Helen E. Hollomon (née Nelms 10 Apr 1893 - 29 Oct 1972) with whom he had 3 more children including Bob's half uncle Dr. John James "JJ" Hollomon Jr (1917-1992). Bob reminisces that Hollomon gave him a straight razor "by means of [Hollomon's] last will and testament," and Bob instead broke it while using it as a screwdriver, which he later held onto this regret for decades well into his 60s because he believed Hollomon wanted him to have it as a personal item and value.

Notable enough, his father was an Esquire John Richmond Hollomon (1831 - 1899), a lawyer and attorney in the Meigs County area.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70362078/susanna-brady#:~:text=of%20her%20son%2C-,J.R.%20Hollomon%20Esq.,-of%20this%20county</ref> More notable enough, his grandfather Pleasant Hollomon (1803 - 1865), served in the {{w|Tennessee House of Representatives}} in the Meigs and {{w|Rhea County, Tennessee|Rhea}} counties from 1849 to 1851. A democrat, he was a constable of the 5th Civil district of Meigs county in 1836-1839, was a deputy sheriff of Meigs in early 1840s and a deputy and tax collector in 1845.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70361465/pleasant-hollomon</ref>

===Rev. Sidney Smith Chandler===
'''The Reverend Sidney Smith Chandler''' (1805 - September 1866) was a Baptist minister and clergyman in Alabama. He is Chris's great-great-great grandfather along his paternal line. Born in Georgia, his father died in 1816 when he was 11. He moved to Alabama in 1829 and became a Primitive Baptist Clergyman and Minster in Autauga County. He also was a slaveowner, owning one [[Kathleen|female slave]] in the 1850 slave census.

He later married Mary Lucinda Walker and later fathered 12 children, including Joseph and his brother Edmund. He died in September of 1866 just shortly after the end of the American Civil War. Two of his sons, James (1830-1862) and Edmund (1835-1865) would die fighting in the Civil War.

===Francis Weston===
'''Francis Weston Sr.''' (Feb 1793 - 19 March 1838) was an English-born immigrant to the United States and a frontiersmen. He is Barbara's great-great-grandfather along her paternal line, making him Chris's maternal great-great-great-grandfather.

Born in {{w|Derbyshire}}, he had immigrated to [[Ohio]] by 1820 and married at {{w|Wheeling, West Virginia}} a year later to Grace Moore, an English-born American, whose parents were also an immigrants from Derbyshire. They had six out of seven children survived, the second oldest being Mary Ann Weston in 1825 and the youngest Joseph Edward "John" Weston in July 1836,<ref>[https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6Q23-PTF?i=2&cc=1401638&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMXSB-9Q8 Joseph (listed as Edward Weston) with his three older siblings and mother Gracy in 1850 census)]</ref><ref>[https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9BS6-DF?i=8&cc=1473181&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMCPH-V55 Gracy Weston (Joseph's mother) in 1860 census with her son Francis]</ref> all in {{w|Augusta Township, Carroll County, Ohio|Augusta Township}}. Through Joseph, Francis's surname would be carried on to [[Barbara]], which, in turn, would serve as the basis for [[Chris|our hero]]'s middle name.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/118642485/francis-weston</ref>

According to newspapers, After immigrating to Augusta Township, Francis, a frontiersmen, built a homestead house of his and his family in a wilderness place with 2 other families surrounded by wild animals and forest. The homestead house was a shanty with puncheon floor and chimney made with sticks and clay. They mentioned about the one occasion Francis was chased by wolves in a forest when coming home from buying fresh meats. Francis would pass away at age 45 in March 1838, 2 years after his youngest son Joseph was born.

In a later pseudo-historical account of events by Barbara and Chris, Francis is replaced by a certain [[Daniel Weston]]. Unlike the historical Francis Weston, ''Daniel'' Weston travelled to North America in 1620 (a whole 2 centuries earlier than Francis), and has the honor of being of a descendant of [[Anne Boleyn]] (whose {{w|Elizabeth I|only daughter}} died childless).

Francis' son, Francis Weston Jr, according to newspapers, was a "popular" and successful businessman and general merchant, owning iron and furnace company, and many other successful companies at Ohio, West Virginia and Missouri with a college education to his name. Through his daughter Jane, Francis Sr is the grandfather of {{w|Pierce County, Washington}}'s Superior Court judge & attorney William Oscar Chapman, who at the time of admitting to {{w|Ohio State Bar Association|Ohio bar}}, was in the same group of applicants with a later president of the United States {{w|William Howard Taft}}.

=== Captain Joseph Looney ===
Joseph Lewellyn Looney (abt.1740-1816) fought in the {{w|American Revolutionary War}} on the Patriot side. He fought in the {{w|Battle of Guilford Court House}} under major general [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|Nathanael Greene]].<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Looney-149</ref>

=== Polly Bowman ===
{{main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}
Chris has at least one [[Cherokee]] ancestor, about whom he absolutely knows nothing. The ancestor was introduced in ''[[Sonichu 2|Sonichu #2]]'', which was completed on 3 May 2005. The ancestor was long assumed to be nonexistent, but on 16 January 2025 - 19 years and 8 months later - the ancestor was discovered to be real by CWCki editor [[User:Cilria2|Cilria2]]. '''Polly Bowman "Cherokee Mother" Cherokee''' (abt 1703 to 1790) is Chris's 7th great-grandmother.

=== John Chandler and Elizabeth Lupo ===
Although there is no evidence that his mother's ancestors were on board the ''Mayflower'', Chris's paternal ancestors were among the first settlers of his home state of Virginia. Chris's direct male ancestor '''John Chandler''' (c. 1600-1657), a native of London, was an early settler of {{w|Jamestown, Virginia|Jamestown}}, [[Virginia]], arriving in 1610 with a boat ''Hercules'', ten years before the ''Mayflower''.<ref>https://www.geni.com/people/John-Chandler-l/6000000008639070482</ref> John married the widow '''Elizabeth Lupo''' (née '''Bassano'''), a member of the illustrious {{w|Jeronimo Bassano|Bassano family}} of [[Chris and music|musicians]] who had been recruited from Venice by {{w|King Henry VIII}} to serve in his court (some have claimed that the Bassanos were of [[Michael Snyder|Jewish]] origin, but the jury is out). The Chandler family migrated southwest over the generations, passing through North Carolina and Georgia before settling in Alabama, Bob's home state.

John Chandler is the fifth great-grandfather of the Dixiechu Joseph Chandler, and the ninth great-grandfather of Chris.

===Richard Baker===
{{w|Richard Baker (chronicler)|Richard Baker}} (c. 1568 – 18 February 1645) was a politician, historian and religious writer. He was the English author of the ''Chronicle of the Kings of England'' and other works.

He is the 12th great-grandfather of Chris on Bob's mother side.

===Edward, Thomas Palmer & Thomas Overbury===
Thanks to John Chandler's grandson's wife Elizabeth Palmer, Chris's 7th great-grandmother, some Christorians did research about her ancestors. Chris has three known ancestors, two of which are Chris descendent of, and other is distantly related.<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Palmer-2791</ref><ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Palmer-533</ref><ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Palmer-229</ref>

Chris is a descendant of his 10th great-grandfather '''{{w|Edward Palmer (d.1624)|Edward Palmer}}''' (c. 1555–1624) from {{w|Gloucestershire}}, England, a gentleman with antiquarian interests who was known for his [[Stamps|extensive collections]] such as Roman coins and is best remembered for purchasing the then unnamed {{w|Garrett Island}} in colony of Virginia (now Maryland) for his plan of establishing university at the island.<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Palmer-544</ref>

Edward had a son whom Chris is also descendant from. '''{{w|Thomas Palmer (burgess)|Thomas Palmer}}''' settled at Jamestown, Virginia on a boat ''Tyger'' with his wife Joan Jordan and 11 years old daughter Priscilla in November 1621. Shortly after their arrival at Jamestown, the Palmers were nearly killed by the [[Cherokian Clan|Powhatans]] during the {{w|Indian massacre of 1622}}, but survived by living in {{w|Jordan Point, Virginia#Jordan's Journey: Beggars Bush|Jordan's Journey}} shelter residence. Thomas was a captain in command of a company of militia from {{w|Eppes Island|Shirley Hundred Island}} and was a member of {{w|House of Burgesses}} at Jamestown on October 16, 1629.<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Palmer-229</ref>

Perhaps notably, Thomas was a first cousin of [[Chris_and_writing#Chris_as_a_poet_and_lyricist|poet]] and [[Chris_and_writing#Chris_as_an_essayist|essayist]] '''{{w|Thomas Overbury}}''' through his father's sister Mary Palmer and her husband {{w|Nicholas Overbury}}. Overbury was known for his poem, ''A Wife'', and a victim of murder by poisoning which led to a scandalous trial.<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Overbury-10</ref>

=== Sir James Croft ===
Sir {{w|James Croft}} (1518- 4 September 1590) was English politician, who was Lord Deputy of Ireland, and MP for Herefordshire in the Parliament of England, He is Chris 12th great-grandfather on his paternal side.

=== Hugh and Isabel Bardolf ===
[[Image:Chris Anne Boleyn.png|thumb|How Chris is related to Anne Boleyn.]]
'''Hugh Bardolf''' (c. 29 September 1259 - c. 20 September 1304) <ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bardolf-9</ref> and '''Isabel Bardolf''' (born '''Isabel Aguillon'''; c. 25 March 1258 - c. 28 May 1323) <ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Aguillon-5</ref>, Chris' 19th great-grandparents, were a medieval English couple who married in 1281. According to a Redditor's Wikitree research in 2022, they are Chris' most recent shared ancestors with [[Anne Boleyn]] (albeit on his father's side, not his mother's): they gave birth to Thomas (Boleyn's 6th great-grandfather) in 1282, Margery around 1283, William in 1284, and Nicola (Chris' 18th great-grandmother) around 1294. This means that, although Chris is not ''descended'' from Anne Boleyn, he is indeed a distant relative. This is hardly surprising, as all humans are relatives of each other of varying distance.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/tedhwz/barb_may_not_have_been_related_to_anne_boleyn_but/</ref><ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Aguillon-5</ref>

In addition to being the source of Chris's distant connection with Anne Boleyn, Hugh Bardolf was the first nobleman of {{w|Baron Bardolf}}, a noble title in the {{w|Peerage of England}}. His wife Isabel was a member of the {{w|Aguillon family}} (of French origin), who were feudal landowners in England. Isabel's father, Sir Robert Aguillon (c. 1226 - 15 February 1286)<ref>https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Aguillon-4</ref>, was a Sheriff of Surrey & Sussex County and a keeper of two castles in both counties.

Hugh Bardolf's descendants unite with those of John Chandler (b. 1600) in 1700, when Robert Chandler (John's grandson, 1659 - c. 1720) and his wife Elizabeth Palmer (Hugh's 10th great-granddaughter, b. 1664) give birth to Joseph Chandler (11 Aug 1700 - 11 Oct 1764), Chris' 6th great-grandparent, in {{w|New Kent, Virginia}}.

A stark contrast can be observed in the fact that Hugh's first child is the ancestor of prestigious nobility (namely Anne Boleyn and her daughter Elizabeth I, an actual queen of England), while Hugh's fourth and last child is the ancestor of our infamous protagonist.

== Dixiechus ==
"'''Dixiechus'''" is a nickname used by Christorians to describe ancestors of Chris who fought for the {{w|Confederate States of America}} during the {{w|American Civil War}}. It is a portmanteau of ''{{w|Dixie}}'' and ''[[Sonichu]]''. The first Dixiechu to be identified was Joseph Chandler, discovered by Kiwifarms user Meat Pickle on 20 December 2021. The term "Dixiechu" was proposed on the [[Official CWCki Server]] on 24 April 2024, by which point four Dixiechus had been identified.

During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris was asked if he may have had ancestors who fought for the Confederacy, at a time when Joseph Chandler (on his father's side) was the only known Dixiechu. In [[Jail Letter - 25 May 2022]], he denied that his father's ancestors had fought for the Confederacy, but conceded that his mother's ancestors may have done so. In 2024, Christorians discovered William Drury Thompson - a Dixiechu on the maternal side of Chris' ancestry - partially vindicating Chris' statement.

As of 2026, Christorians have identified 6 Dixiechus. Half are known to have sustained combat injuries. 2 hailed from Alabama, 2 from North Carolina, 1 from South Carolina, and 1 from Mississippi. Though [[Virginia]] was both the Confederacy's most populous state and stands as Chris' place or origin, it is not known to have spawned any Dixiechus.

A total of 1,082,119 people served the {{w|Confederate States Army}} during the civil war.<ref>https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/civil-war-facts</ref> Anecdotal evidence suggests that half of modern-day southerners have ancestors who fought for the Confederacy.<ref>There is no large-scale study of Confederate ancestry to the knowledge of this wiki, but genealogists familiar with this area tend to estimate a ballpark of 40-55%.[https://pastexplore.wordpress.com/2015/05/13/okay-so-you-have-civil-war-ancestors/][https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-todays-southern-US-population-actually-have-ancestors-who-fought-for-the-confederacy]</ref> In this light, Chris' Confederate heritage should be seen as reflecting the norm rather than his own eccentricity.

In chronological order from most to least recent death, the Dixiechus include:

=== Joseph Chandler ===
[[File:Joseph chandler.png|thumb|right|150px|Joseph Chandler in 1911]]
'''Joseph Chandler''' (14 April 1832 - January 1925) of {{w|Autauga County, Alabama}} is Chris's great-great-grandfather along his paternal line. Joseph Chandler enlisted in the Confederate Army as a private in May 1862. Serving in the unit {{w|38th Alabama Infantry Regiment}} at {{w|Fort Gaines, Alabama|Fort Gaines}}, he fought in the {{w|Battle of Mobile Bay}} before being paroled in April 1865 after the conclusion of the war and was later discharged in August of that year due to broken shoulder.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-1487#post-10736839 A Kiwi Farms post with a record of Joseph Chandler]</ref><ref>https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=0AA5818C-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A</ref> Joseph's professions after the war were farmer, shoe maker and largely a herb doctor.<ref>http://alagenealogy.com/Patriarchs/Chandler,%20Sidney%20Smith.htm#JOSEPH%20H.2%20CHANDLER</ref>

Joseph also had a younger brother Edmund (1835 - 1865, Chris's great-great-granduncle), who also fought for the Confederacy at [https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Camp_of_Instruction,_Talladega,_Alabama#:~:text=Talladega%20was%20one%20of%20two,would%20be%20obliged%20to%20enroll.| Camp of Instruction, Talladega, Alabama], died as a result during the war in 1865.<ref>https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=C3A5818C-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A</ref> Joseph's two younger sons John (1876 - 1932) and Rufus (1880 - 1932), both were killed on March 21, 1932 in {{w|Chilton County, Alabama|Chilton County area}}, from the {{w|1932 Deep South tornado outbreak}}.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106731994/john-tyler_morgan-chandler</ref><ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/26986157/rufus-sidney-chandler</ref>

=== Caleb Nelson Headley ===
[[File:CalebHeadley.png|thumb|right|150px|Caleb Headley]]

'''Caleb Nelson Headley''' (1847-1921) was born on the 8th of March 1845 (1846 or 1847 depending on which source) in Darlington County, South Carolina as the only son of Wills Headley and Rebecca Bell, Caleb's father Wills died when he was just 7 years old in 1854, and he was soon taken into the custody of James Huckabee (who would later become his stepfather), who taught the boy farming until he was 21 years old.

In 1863 when he was just 18 years old, he enlisted in the Confederate Army as part of the 63rd Alabama Regiment, Company H (They were also known as Second Alabama Reserve), he took part in fighting in Spanish Fort (he was wounded) and was discharged at his home (he was on furlough at the time) in May of 1865.

Shortly after the end of the war, he settled in Coosa County Alabama, in 1874 he married Caroline Louisa Estes when he was 28 and she was 24 at her father's house in Talladega, Alabama, He would have 8 children from 1874 to 1892 including Martha Headley (Bob's paternal grandmother), Caleb was a farmer for most of his life, in 1898 he attempted to run for a political seat in Alabama State Assembly as a Representative for Chilton County as independent but withdraw and then backed the Populist ticket for that seat.

Caleb would see his health worsen in his later years, he became nearly blind by his late 60s and by 1920 was living with his son Robert E. L Headley. He died on August 21st, 1921 in Shelby County, Alabama at age of 76.

=== William Teer ===
[[File:Willam Teer.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Image of William Teer. (Very likely to be authentic) <ref>This image was uploaded to findagrave in 2016; William Teer was not known to Christorians to be Chris' ancestor in 2016. Family trees from both 2017[https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Chris%27s_family_tree_up_to_his_great_great_grandparents.png] and 2019[https://imgur.com/gallery/0BgQLyH] omit the ancestry of Bob's maternal grandmother. Furthermore, his biography on rootsweb uses a similar image.[https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dougmay/genealogy/Wmteer.htm]</ref>]]
Bob's matrilineal great-grandfather, '''Dr. William Teer''' (March 29, 1837 - October 19, 1919), was born in {{w|Neshoba County, Mississippi}}, and grew up in {{w|Angelina County, Texas}} since he was 10 years old with his seven siblings. The family later relocated to {{w|Hopkins County, Texas|Hopkins County}} outside {{w|Cumby, Texas|Cumby}} in 1860, where he worked as a farmer before enlisting in the army for the Civil War.

In October 1861, aged 24, William and his two brothers James (1830 - 1863) and Wiley (1839 - 1862), enlisted in the Confederate Army in San Antonio. Serving in the 4th Texas Cavalry Regiment, William participated in the {{w|New Mexico campaign}} under {{w|Henry Hopkins Sibley|General Sibley}}. Both of his brothers died during the war; James died at a Union prison camp in Williamsburg, Virginia, in 1863. William and Wiley fought in the battles of {{w|Battle of Valverde|Valverde}} and later to {{w|Battle of Glorietta Pass|Glorietta Pass}}, where in April 1862, Wiley was reportedly "lost or killed" and William suffered serious injuries, including a shattered right arm, a damaged spleen, and later contracting hepatitis (It might be worth reflecting how close Teer was to dying at this point - a slightly different outcome could have prevented all of Christory a century before it began). After the capture of Texas Army's supply wagons by the US Army, they retreated, leaving William and other recovering soldiers at the {{w|Santa Fe, New Mexico|Santa Fe}} hospital before shortly being captured. He was later paroled in May 1862, returning to San Antonio. Due to his injuries and disability, he was honorably discharged from his unit by General {{w|Thomas Green (general)|Thomas Green}} in September 1863 and returned to his home in Cumby, working as a farmer despite his shattered right arm.

William was married four times throughout his life. In December 1862, he married Mary Frances Carraway of Alabama, who passed away in 1867. He then remarried Louisa Frances Spears of Tennesse, in 1868, but that marriage also ended early. In January 1871, he married Nancy Jane Coburn of {{w|Ashley County, Arkansas}}. From this marriage, he had seven children, including Mary Francis Teer, Bob's maternal grandmother and the wife of John James Hollomon. After Nancy's death in 1894, William remarried to Bettie King of {{w|Mount Pleasant, Texas|Mount Pleasant}} in March 1907 at age 70, and this marriage lasted until his death in 1919.

In November 1903, inspired by the nerve damage in his shattered right arm, William established himself as an {{w|osteopath}} doctor in {{w|Tyler, Texas}}, specializing in "Exophthalmic Goitre, Biliary Calculi (Gall Stones) Paralysis, and all Nervous Diseases." He became the president of the State Association of Drugless Doctors of Texas and advocated massaging and other holistic approaches to wellness. As a doctor in Tyler, he was described as a highly respected figure, endorsed by many prominent members of the city's society. After retiring, he resided at the Texas Confederate Home in Austin before moving back to Cumby in 1918, where he later passed away in October 1919 at his youngest daughter's {{w|Miller Grove, Texas|Miller Grove}} home caused by a second paralyzing stroke.

William was mentioned in a book titled "[https://archive.org/details/texanswhoworegra00john| Texans who Wore the Gray (1907)]", written by a Confederate officer, journalist, and author Sidney Smith Johnson (1840-1910). Johnson described William as "a brave Confederate soldier, a man of fine education, and a Christian gentleman."

=== Garnder E. Shearin ===
'''Garnder E. Shearin'''' (1836/1837 - 28 January 1901)<ref>https://digital.ncdcr.gov/Documents/Detail/shearin-gardner-e.-warren-county/1671784</ref><ref>https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-warren-record-gardner-early-shearin/521312/</ref> was a Confederate veteran from North Carolina. He married Martha in 1859. In May 1861, he enlisted in the Confederate army in Warren County, North Carolina, fighting in company B of North Carolina's 30th infantry regiment remaining in service until the end of the war in 1865.

An obituary to him reads: "I was not with him in the army but learned from others, that he was a faithful soldier. My association with him since the war enables me to say I never knew a kinder hearted or monre congenial natured man. Always ready to serve a friend."

He is ancestor of Chris via Barb's side of his ancestry.

=== Rufus Walker ===

'''Rufus Walker''' (1820-1895) was a Confederate soldier who served in Company H and came from Milton, Alabama, located in Autauga County. He became a prisoner of war after being surrendered by Lieutenant General Richard Taylor to Major E.R.S. Canby on May 4, 1865. Rufus was later paroled in Selma in June 1865.<ref>https://38thalabama.com/ndashv-to-zndash.html</ref>

According to the 1850 Census's Slave Report, Rufus Walker owned as many as '''twenty-one''' slaves before manumission in 1865. What benevolent people Chris is descended from!

He is Chris' great-great-great-grandfather, with the lineage as follows: Rufus Walker (1820-1895) > Mary Elizabeth Walker (1840-1887) > Joseph Chandler (1871-1947) > Robert F. Chandler Sr. (1906-1977) > Robert ("[[Bob]]") F. Chandler Jr. (1927-2011) > Chris

=== William Drury Thompson ===
'''William Drury Thompson''' (1814 - 17 May 1862) was a civil war enlistee from North Carolina, although it's unknown which side of the military force, (although there's a record suggesting he's a Confederate enlistee for North Carolina's Infantry 12th Regiment), died during his basic training in Richmond, Virginia due to illnesses, 2 months after enlisting.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/262604729/william-drury-thompson</ref>

He is Chris' great-great-great-grandfather. More specifically, he is the paternal grandfather of the maternal grandmother of Barbara.

==Ancestry.com content==
In [[January 2017]], a distant relative of Chris posted images to Kiwi Farms, on various documents relating to the Chandler family, acquired from Ancestry.com<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/interesting-info-about-chriss-family-particularly-their-parents.27521/</ref>

{{quotebox|Bob is apparently an only child, however Barbara has five deceased siblings and several more living ones.}}
{{quotebox|Most of Chris's ancestors were [[RandomSong1|farmers]], doing tasks that Chris would find back breaking.}}
{{quotebox|Chris, from what I gathered, is not 1/16 Cherokian. He is however 1/16 British and 1/8 French Canadian.}}
{{quotebox|His great great grandparent's from Northern Ireland.}}
The "Northern Irish" ancestor was Chris's great-great-grandmother Mary Weston (née McClintic, 31 Oct 1834 - 25 Dec 1910). Mary was born in the town of {{w|Omagh}} (whose name means "the [[Virgin with Rage|virgin]] plain" in Gaelic) in County Tyrone, in what is today {{w|Northern Ireland}}. She came to the United States between 1840 and 1850, likely as a result of the {{w|Irish Potato Famine}}.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22502739/joseph-mcclintock</ref> She settled in Augusta, Ohio, where she married Joseph "John" Edward Weston, Chris's great-great-grandfather, in 1858, who was also from Augusta. Both later settled in {{w|Clarksville, Virginia}}.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/24279732/mary-weston</ref>

The "French Canadian" ancestor was Chris's great-grandmother Sarah Ann Weston (née {{w|Clan Hamilton|Hamilton}}, Apr 1867 - 25 Jan 1938), who was born in [[wikipedia:Huntingdon, Quebec|Huntingdon]], {{w|Quebec}} and came to Virginia with her family during the 1870s, settling near Red Oak.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35318370/sarah-jane-weston</ref><ref>https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6823228286:62476</ref> Although the majority of Quebeckers speak French, her surname and the fact that she was born in a predominantly English-speaking part of Quebec suggest that she belonged to the province's English-speaking minority. Moreover, her paternal and maternal grandparents were all born in [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|Scotland]], making her of entirely Scottish descent.<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/249266361/jane-hamilton</ref><ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/249027191/daniel-hamilton</ref> Sarah is Chris's most recent immigrant ancestor.

<center><gallery>
File:RobertPettusWynnWW1Draft.jpg|Robert Wynn WW1 military draftee (1918).
File:JosephWW1.png|Joe Weston WW1 military draftee (1918).
File:RobertChandlerSrDraft.png|Bob's father's WW2 military draftee (1940).
File:RobertSr1940DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png|Bob's father's military card on a physical detail (1940).
File:Bob&Parents.png|Bob and his parents, Jean Hollomon & Robert F. Chandler Sr., (early 1940s).
File:RobertPettusWynnOldManWW2DraftCard.jpg|Robert Wynn WW2 military draft card (1942).
File:RobertWynn1942DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png|Robert Wynn military card on a physical detail (1942).
File:JoeOttoWestonOldMan1942WW2DraftCard.jpg|Joe Weston WW2 military draft card (1942).
File:JoeWeston1942DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png|Joe Weston military card on a physical detail (1942).
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's military card draftee (1946) (written in 1945).
File:Bob1946WW2DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png| Bob's WW2 military card on a physical detail (1946) (written in 1945).
File:JohnJamesHollomonObituary1950.jpeg|John James Hollomon's newspaper obituary (1950).
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1961 6 17 - Barb and Ran marriage license.jpeg|1961 6 17 - Barb and Ran marriage license.
File:1963 5 15 - Barb, Ran divorce.jpeg|1963 5 15 - Barb, Ran divorce.
File:Robert Chandler Sr.png| Bob's father with his four youngest kids (1969)
File:Chandler family reunion 1975.png | Chandler Family Reunion (1975)
File:Robert f obit.jpeg| Bob's father obituary (1977)
File:JerryAndBarbDivorce.png|1980 1 7 - Barbara, Jerry divorce.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in Jacksonville State University dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Barbarafamilycensus1950.png|Barbara and her parents and siblings - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Cole Smithey's family tree.png|Cole Smithey's family tree.
File:David Alan Chandler and Kimberly Fay Howard's marriage certificate.png|David Alan Chandler and Kimberly Fay Howard's marriage certificate.
File:Savannah Chandler's family tree.png|Savannah Chandler's family tree.
File:2023ChrisDNATest.png|Chris's ancestry, showing him to be 100% pure cracker. [[Transgender|Also note the got-dang Y chromosome.]].
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== See also ==

*[[Imaginary family]]
*[[Minor Family Members]]
*[[Weston Haiku]]

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CWCFlyingElephants

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{{Honest}}

[[Image:Cwcspin.gif|right|frame|This video, quite clearly indeed, shows Chris's horrendous manchild-ass.]]

"'''CWCFlyingElephants'''" is a seven-minute video made by [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], and published by [[The Miscreants]] on 27 [[April 2009]]. Chris made this "crazy nudie audition," as he dubbed it, for [[gal-pal]] [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. It shows Chris in his room, (mostly) naked, displaying a show of what he calls [[random-access humor]]. Chris runs, twirls, acts crazy and does handstands while [[nudes|completely in the nude]]. In addition, he [[parody|imitates]] lines from ''[[Wikipedia:Ed, Edd n Eddy|Ed, Edd, n Eddy]]'' and ''[[South Park]]'', quotes ''[[Monty Python]]'', plays with [[list of toys|toys]], and throws around [[Li'l Chris]].

==Videos==
===Audio-Only Video===

{{quote|And now for something completely different.}}

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| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
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===Censored Video===
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| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
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===Uncensored Video===

{{Protip|This video contains uncensored images of an autistic man's dick, balls, and ass uncensored for all of the world to see. If you're not into that, ''don't watch.''}}

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| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|text}}
| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
}}

=== Transcript ===
[''Chris is standing in front of the camera wearing a bath robe. He briefly raises his eyebrows.'']

And now for [[Somecummpentydifferent|something completely different]]. [''removes his robe, revealing he is not wearing a [[The Classic|shirt]]''] BUUUUNG! And now, [''in a deep voice''] it's...[''normal voice''] ''[[Monty Python]]'s Flying Elephants''! [''poorly imitates the series' theme song, "The Liberty Bell"'']

[''spoken frequently fast and high-pitched''] [[Johan]], why is people running away? I don't know, Greeg, why is people running away? Johan! Johan, why is people running away? I don't know, Johan! Greeg! Johan! Johan! Why is people running away? I don't know, buddy Greeg. Johan! Johan, why is people running away? I don't know, Greeg. Johan, Johan, why is people running away? [''slaps himself on the side of the head''] SHUT UP! He's acting crazy!

[''begins to let out muffled screams as he runs towards the door of his room, shaking the door knob as if it were locked. This also reveals the fact he is '''completely nude.''' He then pauses as he suddenly looks at something on the shelf.''] Hm! [''removes a magazine from the shelf''] [[Star Wars|It's a trap!]] [''throws the magazine on the table before he starts [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|constipatedly]] screaming again. He runs towards the door again, but seems to injure himself against something on the wall, crouching down to the floor in pain immediately after.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris standing in front of the camera, still nude.''] And now for something [[Speech impediment|cuppity different]], a man impersonating [[South Park|Towelie the Towel]]. [''begins imitating''] Oh my goodness, [[Un-clit|My]] [[China|pussy]] [[Tomgirl Pictures|is wet]]! Don't forget to bring a towel! What? When [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|your pussy is wet]], and you don't want to lose a bet, you want to dry yourself up right away! [''mimics flossing a towel between his legs''] That's why Towelie says: [''raises a finger in the air''] don't forget to bring a towel! [[Yawning Squirtle|Wanna get high?]] NOOOOO! NOOO!

[''In his impersonation of the Gumbys''] I would like to meet someone of [[Autism|superior intelligence]]. I would like to hear the sound of two bricks being smashed together. I would like to see...ten million stupid monkeeeeys. I would like to see [[Chris and religion|John the Baptist]] impersonation of [[Wikipedia:Graham Hill|Graham Hill]]. Yes, it's historic impersonations!

[''Jump cut to Chris, still in the same situation.''] Full-frontal nudity? Yes, I'd do it. If it was valid. If the money was valid. I haven't had enough of the permissive society! [[Virgin with rage|I've heard of unisex, but I've never had it]]. [''slaps himself on the side of the head''] Shut up, you're driving me crazy! AAAAAAAAAGH! [''ducks below the camera's view'']

[''Jump cut to Chris kneeling on his bed, face against the blanket. He hits his face against it several times.''] I'm a woodpecker! [''resumes''] 'Cept with dirt!<ref>Originally said by Ed; originated from the ''[[Wikipedia:Ed, Edd n Eddy|Ed, Edd n Eddy]]'' episode "[http://www.tv.com/ed-edd-n-eddy/stop-look-ed/episode/123292/summary.html Stop, Look and Ed]"</ref> [''Resumes hitting his face against the bed several more times before rolling off to the side.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris doing a headstand on his sofa, completely nude, giving a full view of his anus and [[pickle]]. After he gets back to his feet, the camera jumps to Chris facing the door of his room. He rises up.'']

Get out of my head! [''yells while spinning in circles''] HLOO! [''falls to the ground. The camera slightly shakes.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris holding a Bumblebee toy.''] And now for something completely different. Bebelapdapbambalamba. Bebelabadapbambajamba-[[Transformers|Bumblebeeee]]! [''holds out the toy''] Buzzing around. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Really, [[Transformers|Prowl]]. [''holds up a Prowl toy in his other hand''] And how necessary is that side-car? Just so you can wear the helmet of your past mastaaaaaar?! [''Jump cut to Chris holding two different toys.''] Come here, [[Wikipedia:Soundwave (Transformers)|Soundwave]]. Lend me [[Wikipedia:Laserbeak|Laserbeak]]! [''pulls a piece of the toy off that looks like a guitar, and begins strumming it like it were a miniature instrument''] DIIII DIIII DIIII DIIII [[CWC More Than A Feeling|MORE THAN A FEELI-]]

[''jump cut to Chris without the toys'']

I like a [[BronyCon 2017#Dancing with Magi-Chan|nice dance]], you're forced to! Otherwise...who said that? [''Starts twisting his head around.''] Who said that? Said that? Anywaaay. Who said that? There will now be a short intermission, during which small ice creams and large boxes will be served in the commissary. Another way to drive people away from the theater is to show a turfs-dispenser. Fzzzs. [''drops to the ground.''] Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. [[White knight|Pearls before swine]] presents!

[''Jump cut to Chris standing with his arms spread.''] The like, do you like this model, or how about this model? I'll give you a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|karate-kick]] for your money. Hyaah! [''kicks at the camera''] I'll give you a [[Punchy Sonichu|punch]], and a whiz-bang, and a boom! [''punches at the air several times''] All you got to do is come down here.

[''Jump cut to Chris doing his [[Donald Duck impersonation]]''] Oh my gosh, look at me! I'm naked! I forgot my [[Sailor Moon|sailor suit]], and my hat, and [[Duck|apparatus]]. I don't know, but I guess. [''reaches off screen and shows his clothing on camera''] Here's what I have to do. Here's my clothes. Bwaa. I went out of the cartoon.

[''Jump cut to Chris with a [[JenkinsJinkies|T-shirt wrapped around his face]]. He imitates [[South Park|Kenny]].''] Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Excuse me, what did you say? Hmmph, rmmph.

[''Jump cut to Chris no longer wearing it.''] Hey [[South Park|Kenny]], you get out here, you take off that stupid little orange or blue jacket, or whatever the hell color it is you wear, and talk to people like you every real life, don't just [[mumble]] your words.

[''Cue another jump cut.''] Hey dude, that's not cool.

[''holding a can of [[My Coke Rewards|Pepsi]].''] Yep. Yep. Yep. Mm-hm. [''Imitating Hank Hill; jump cut to Chris taking a sip of Pepsi, then gasping. Jump cut to Chris without the Pepsi''] Product placement, eh--product placement in this program is hereby endorsed and provided by the studio, which is provided from the companies of which those products became, originated from, thereof. Another way we can drive people away from the studio is to act. Like. A. Loony!

[''Cue another jump cut.''] I once knew a man from Nantucket, he has on his head, a silly bucket. And now I have [[HippoOnYourHead|on my head]], [''grabs a teddy bear''] a [[Li'l Chris|silly little bear]], I'm wearing [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|clean underwear]]. Wearing clean underwear like I just don't care. [''squeezes the bear's paw and it starts to speak'']

Wow, he just said what I said. I'm undecided! [''throws the bear and begins screaming and running around his room again. He lifts a chair, looks at the camera, then lowers it''] HNNNNG! HNNNNNNNNNNNNNG! PFOOP! [''falls to the ground, shaking the camera. Jump cut to Chris' foot in the air, with a sock on.''] Hm, I guess he's done left the studio for now. Well, that's all folks. Du du du du du du du du. Du du du du du du du du. [[Pedofork|Pedi]] pedi di di. Plong. ['' other foot joins in''] LILILILILILILILI! Plonk.

[''Jump cut to Chris, standing up.''] Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Moola moola moola. He must be asking for a [[Monthly tugboat|handout]]. Indeed. And now it's the indeed show, starring [[Gilligan's Island|Mr. Thurston Howell III]]. Indeed. Indeed. [''The video used in this article ends with a cut to black, then a zoom-in on Chris's face while he makes a noise.'']

== Sources ==
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==See also==
*[[Random-access humor]]
*[[Monty Python]]
*[[I Got A Fish]]
*[[Bunny Hop]]
*[[Nudes]]
*[[CWC 3D Voice Check]]

==External links==
* [http://www.mediafire.com/file/yo8nvtsjjpwlfqm/CWCFlyingElephants.mp4/file Uncensored version - Mediafire - Download Required] (NSFW, of course)

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Chris's room (14 Branchland Court)

2026-07-17T18:02:54Z

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{{quote|I get ants in my bed a bunch of times (annoying, just the same); I spray some Raid on the walls, and I’m safe.|Chris, replying to a Twitter comment on bedbugs<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Ants]]</ref>}}

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'''[[Chris]]'s room at [[14 Branchland Court]]''' was where he formerly spent a majority of his adult life. It is where he kept many of his [[toys]], [[video games]], posters, art, and other assorted paraphernalia. As of [[July 2021]], he no longer resides at 14 Branchland Court.

==Pre-fire room==
[[Image:Chrischansroom15xt7.jpg|200px|thumb|right|A rough map of Chris's room pre-[[2014 house fire|house fire]].]]

Chris's bedroom was on the second floor of [[14 Branchland Court|his parents' house]], with 2 windows on the northwest wall. Based on Chris's [[Tour of Chris's House|video tour]] of the house, his cluttered room was actually the ''cleanest'' room in the house, which may explain why so much of his time was spent there.

Chris's room, like most bedrooms, also summed up many of his awful habits and traits:
* His incredible attachment to material possessions, as evidenced by the massive amounts of clutter.
* His incredible laziness, as evidenced by how much of said clutter was scattered haphazardly on the floor, bed and couch.
* In contrast, the careful and orderly arrangement of his [[video games]], [[DVD]]s, [[trading cards]], posters, and [[toys]] shows how they rank on his list of priorities against things like [[Wendy's|work]], [[education]], [[gal-pals|human]] [[Sweetheart|relationships]], or [[Autism|personal development]].
* The [[Megan Shrine]], the definite and unquestionable proof of Chris's obsession with the only person that has ever been friendly to him, whom he drove away all on his own.
* Next to the shrine is a large walk-in closet; rather than being used to store clothing, this appears to have instead been used to loosely store everything else spilling over from the main area of the room; in later photographs of the area, taken after the dismantling of the shrine, it appeared to be effectively inaccessible, filled to the brim with shelves, boxes, assorted video games, folders and other miscellany.
* The prevalence of [[Pokémon]], [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], and other franchises aimed at children — people of the same mental and emotional age as Chris.
* The majority of his possessions are toys or video games — objects which perform predictably [[Chris_and_his_Ego#Materialism|within his absolute control]].
* He also shows extreme hoarding behavior that is commonly found in [[Barbara Chandler|the elderly]], [[Abusive babysitter|formerly abused children]] and the [[autism|autistic]].
* The stench, not visible on video or photograph, can still be inferred from the many accounts of [[11042009 51 50|sweat]], [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|feces]], and [[SpaghettiRoutine|rotten food]] left around. Let's put it this way: he once told [[Ivy]] that one [[Giant Penis Comic|Glade air freshener]] ''wasn't enough.''<ref>[[Ivy Q&A]]</ref>
* Finally, Chris retreated to his room whenever he felt the slightest bit of [[stress]], refused to discard his detritus, and saw it as the gateway to his fantasy world of [[CWCville]]; it is safe to assume the toys which he claims to play with for 2-3 hours a day<ref>[[Mailbag_25#In which Chris tells us how many hours he plays with toys a day|Mailbag #25]]</ref> are like a physical extension of his own imaginary world that provide a sense of safety and comfort.

In [[February 2009]], [[Clyde Cash]] forced Chris to [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|clean up his room a bit]].

Besides Chris, only two other people have been seen venturing into the cesspool he calls his room: [[Bob Chandler]], as exposed in a [[THAT IS MY HOUSE#Uncut|leaked video]], and the [[Magical Man]], as seen in [[Magical Man Potion]]. One animal, [[Kitty Chandler]], was shown in Chris's room in [[20 December 2009|another video]].

After the blazing fires of [[2014 house fire|10 January 2014]] and the brief residence-taking of the [[Rental House]], Chris and [[Barb]] moved back into 14 Branchland Court in [[2015]]. He moved into another room and left the old one to be used for storage.

===Images===
These images are arranged beginning at the northeastern wall of the room, going counter-clockwise. Not included here are photographs of the southeastern wall and east corner.

The [[Tomgirl Pictures]], released on 29 [[April 2011]], seemed to indicate that the Wall of Originals was either removed or gone.

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Image:411-CWCWeekP5 crop 1.jpg|[[April 2000]], as Chris was moving back in from [[Richmond]].
Image:0821-EP12-5P6-5.jpg|Northeastern wall, near the north corner. [[The Wall of Originals|A sheet of his homemade ''Pokémon'' cards]] is here. It was previously believed that this covered a window, but the new [[Tomgirl Pictures]] have shown that this is not the case.
Image:0822-EP12-5P6-4.jpg|North corner
Image:0823-EP12-5P6-3.jpg|Northwestern wall near the north corner. The air conditioner on the left here can be seen in the upper left corner of the front of his house.
Image:0824-EP12-5P6-9.jpg|Northwestern wall near the west corner.
Image:0825-EP12-5P6-8.jpg|West corner. The bookshelf on the right is the [[Megan shrine]].
Image:0826-EP12-5P6-7.jpg|Southwestern wall. The closet doors are behind the shelves of vidya. It's not clear how Chris can access the contents of the closet, assuming he ever does.
Image:0827-EP12-5P6-6.jpg|South corner. The door leads out of the room into the hallway. The [[Attraction Sign]] can be seen hanging on the back of the door. In [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]], the portal leading to CWCville appears where the ''Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix'' mat is hanging. Take note of the ''Bubsy'' game on the shelf.
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===Post-fire===
[[File:Boxes1.jpg|thumb|Chris's old room, pictured in 2016|250px]]

As of 2016, the room is used for storage.<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#House Cleaning]]</ref> He also mentioned the room in a Facebook post from [[December 2016]], in which he described Sorbet getting stuck in his "old bedroom" for the better part of the night.
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==Post-fire room==
[[File:IMG 3207 hd720.mp400001.png|thumb|Chris, pictured in his new bedroom circa 2016.]]

Footage of the room, post-[[2014 house fire]], after the house renovations, first appeared in [[HelloLadyFans]]. It is located on the first floor, near the stairs that lead to the upstairs kitchen<ref>[[Chris's Specimen Sample]]</ref>.

In his room, Chris had a bed - which he had bought with [[DStecks]]'s $1,000 donation; during 2018, at the age of 36, he purchased [[My Little Pony]]-themed bedding for it. The bedding apparently did not remain an untouched shrine to cartoon horses for long. In [[August 2019 social media posts#Ants|August 2019]], while replying to a Twitter comment about bedbugs, Chris volunteered that he had dealt with ants in his bed "a bunch of times," treating the problem by spraying Raid on the walls.<ref name=ants>[[August 2019 social media posts#Ants]]</ref> While this does not prove a bedbug infestation, it is one of Chris's more direct admissions that pests had reached the place where he slept. It also fits the broader post-fire decline of [[14 Branchland Court]], which had already begun sliding back into hoarding and poor sanitation after the renovations, with dirty carpet, pet newspaper spots, and the infamous [[Pokémon GO]] image of the stained work-room carpet all appearing during the same general period.<ref>[[14 Branchland Court#Return of the hoard]]</ref>

As pest-control advice, Chris's solution was about as careful as one would expect from the same man who used the room to [[Shoe Colouring|spray-paint his shoes]]. Raid's own usage guidance tells users to follow label instructions, ventilate treated areas, and keep people and pets away until spray has dried; the EPA similarly warns that indoor pesticides should be used only as directed and in recommended quantities.<ref>[https://raid.com/en-us/education/bug-basics/how-to-apply-pest-control-spray How To Apply Pest-control Spray], ''Raid''.</ref><ref>[https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/pesticides-impact-indoor-air-quality Pesticides' Impact on Indoor Air Quality], ''United States Environmental Protection Agency''.</ref> Chris, naturally, presented spraying the walls as if it were a perfectly normal bedtime maintenance routine.

As if this wasn't enough fail, he also kept a drawing of his [[Polyamorous marriage|wife and husband]] taped to the ceiling.

The [[Sonic Totem]] was stationed in this room until he sold it. In a move reminiscent of the Christmas tree that was abandoned in the [[Kitchen]] pre-fire, Chris kept a tree in his room months after Christmas, as shown in [[IMG 3207]], until [[Idea Guy]] tricked him into destroying it on camera in [[Get Out, You D*** Nazis!]]. In [[Tour of Chris's House III]], we can see his new room is already cluttered with clothes and junk--and yet, it's still the least-hoarded area in the house. Some of what "decorated" the original room for over a decade (posters, drawings, plush toys, figures, electronic devices, etc.) was lost or put elsewhere in the house. The rest was scattered onto tables in his "work room."

The Idea Guys directed Chris to record himself pissing and shitting on a towel on the floor in this room<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/yt-8-13-hasbro-mlp-g4-must-continue-no-mlp-g5.46554/post-3660270</ref> - one leaked example is in the [[All Star]] video. Chris [[Shoe Colouring|spray-painted his shoes]] in this room, staining the carpet in the process.

It is unknown whether the room has been altered following Chris's arrest for [[incest]] or if it has been left untouched.

<center><gallery>
File:CWC Discord1.jpg|''Ladies...''
File:A little song and dance (720p 30fps H264-192kbit AAC).mp400001.png|thumb|200px|left|Note the box of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|feminine hygiene pads]].
File:Barb's blankets ebay listings photos 01.jpg|His [[mother]] posing on his bed.
File:I need some local C64 Tech Help, Please00001.png|Chris with his spouses, pictured in 2018.
File:Sylvia with Chris in bed 8 Nov 2018.jpeg|Chris getting some pussy.
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===Images===
In August 2020, additional pictures emerged of Chris's current room. Surprising no one, it's still cluttered with his various accumulated junk and toys.
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==Work room==
[[File:Please, Donate (720p).mp400001.png|thumb|Chris, begging for money in the same room he keeps his thousands of dollars worth of toys that he could sell.]]

During the mid-[[2010s]] to early [[2020s]], Chris kept most of his vast collection of toys in this room. It is presumably the once-inaccessible living room seen in the [[Tour of Chris's House|house tour]].

He mentioned it by name in [[IMG 3207]], where he said that he was in his bedroom, which is separate from his "work room." By "work," he meant making products such as Amiibos and drawings for his [[Etsy]] shop. About a week after calling it the work room, Chris was banned from selling on Etsy for failing to fulfill orders.

Ironically, this is the room where he recorded himself begging for money the most during the [[Financhu Crisis]]. While begging, he kept his toys in full view behind him, demonstrating that he has no sense of self-awareness.

Most of his videos from 2015 onward were recorded in this room.

[[File:Chris's flatscreen TV 2017.png|thumb|left|Chris's TV. Note the photo of [[Bob]] in the center. And, yes, Chris kept this TV even while he begged for food money.]]

He also has a large flatscreen TV, with his Nintendo, Sony, Sega and [[HEXBox]] consoles hooked up to it. His PSN shows that he keeps both the PS3 and PS4 connected<ref>https://psnprofiles.com/Sonichu</ref>, and [[Arthur Spatchcock]] has confirmed that he keeps the PS4 running constantly,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-reads-unicorns-rainbows-and-a-bluebird-of-happiness.21663/page-8#post-1534000</ref> and that not even being late on his electric bills was enough to get him to reduce his electric consumption.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/6-26-chris-angrily-tweets-at-cole-smithey-to-help-barb.21918/page-7#post-1554457</ref> Chris has also been observed keeping his Wii U console powered on constantly without the benefit of the power-saving Standby Mode feature.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-158#post-2253357</ref>

In January of 2016, Chris revealed in [[Announcement and update 1/12/2016]] that he had acquired a new addition to the [[Relics of Fail]]. He bought a schooldesk from Goodwill for $30. Chris might have bought the desk as a fond reminder of his days at [[Manchester High]], when he was free of adult responsibilities. Depressingly, he has filmed many videos of himself sitting at the desk and bashing action figures into each other like a child.

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File:Update 1 17 2016 (720p).mp400001.png|Making custom Amiibos for [[Etsy]] in January 2016. Later in the year, he was barred from selling due to failing to send orders.
File:Something Completely Different - A few Transformers Jokes, a.mp400001.png|Chris, age 34, playing with his toys.
File:Happy Birthday, McKenna.mp400001.png|In the room, facing the TV.
File:$50 for a video holiday greeting!.mp400001.png|The other side of the room.
File:Living room August 2018.jpg|The room in August 2018, packed with toys.
File:Filthy carpet in Work Room - July 2019.jpg|Stained carpet, in July 2019, shared from [[Pokemon Go]] with the comment, "Party Time."
</gallery></center>

==See also==
* [[14 Branchland Court]]
* [[Megan Shrine]]
* [[Ruckersville, VA]]
* [[Chris's kitchen]]

==References==
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File:OhFuckNo.png

2026-07-17T17:59:28Z

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== Summary ==
Made by yours truly, @fullnameunknown

Produced by special request in the CWCki

Chris and business

2026-07-17T04:54:24Z

FullNameUnknown: It was inevitable I would make a mistake during editing.

{{Dated|Chris's business ventures following his release from [[Jail Saga|jail]]}}
{{Needs Updating|[[OfficialCWCmart]]|[[Cwclight]]|[[Cameo]]}}
{{quote|That is not my fault the frame got broke in transaction, the envelope was clearly marked “Fragile” and “Handle With Care”, and it was shipped well in a bubble envelope. Either you, being Trollish, or the Postal Carriers are to blame for the frame’s arriving condition.|An example of Chris's customer service skills<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20220516025146/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1017880748009967618</ref>}}

[[File:Update 1 17 2016 (720p).mp400001.png|thumb|Chris pictured at his "[[Work Room]]" in [[January 2016]]]]

Chris launched an online '''business''' in [[June 2014]], selling custom arts and crafts through [[eBay]]. A year later, he moved shop to [[Etsy]], under a brand titled "Cwcville Shopping". He also began selling printed copies of [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]] on [[Lulu]]. He held a steady stream of customers, despite issues with production and sending orders on time. For a while, he had achieved his dream of selling his own Sonichu merchandise, and was making plenty of [[Chris and money|money]].

However, exactly two years and one week after the start of his business, on 8 [[June 2016]], Chris's [[Chris and work|infamous laziness]] caught up to him, and he was banned from Etsy for ignoring orders over a span of months beginning from when he bought a [[PS4]]. He did not take responsibility for the self-inflicted failure of his business. Instead, he lied to save face and cast blame on Lulu.com's staff for having stressed him out by labeling Sonichu as fan fiction and banning his account half a year beforehand in [[December 2016]] (even though he had actually ban-evaded by opening a private account and was back to offering books through Lulu's services only weeks later).

After the Etsy ban, Chris fell back on [[Financhu Crisis|begging]] and Paid Video Requests to cover [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]'s credit card bills and his expensive [[toy]] purchases. In [[May 2017]], he felt like returning to work on the Sonichu comic and, throughout the next several months, began to rebuild his business, using [[Patreon]], Lulu and [[Redbubble]], and accepting interviews for money. In [[November 2019]], Chris created a website called [[CWCville Shopping]] to sell cards and comics, though it only lasted a few months as Chris couldn't afford to pay the monthly fee to keep the site up.

In [[September 2020]], a [[fan]] named [[Caden Peck]] and Co went to Chris's house to propose a business partnership with their group [[Praetor]]. This allowed Chris to return to Etsy yet again with the opening of [[OfficialCWCmart]] in [[December 2020]]. Caden has expressed his interest in Chris's level of popularity in contrast to how little he capitalizes on it, and has taken note of Chris being [[Chris and stress|overwhelmed]] at his own attempts to do so, both of which being reasons why he decided to reach out to him himself.<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The Place Chats#Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref> Caden has claimed that no one else previously has been "smart enough" to be as successful as Praetor is with Chris.<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref> In [[September 2024]], Chris created a website called [[Cwclight]] to sell various junk. After many years, Chris returned to making personalized video messages, joining the [[Cameo]] website in [[February 2026]].

Chris & Praetor seem to have been very successful with Chris, with his [[OfficialCWCmart|Etsy shop]] raking in an estimated $151,371 after Etsy fees. While it is almost guaranteed that most of the money is funneled back to Praetor and Caden, this seems to be a steady source of income for Chris and is assumedly how he is able to keep making frivolous purchases, along with how he is able to keep spoiling his little [[Flutter|Finnish hearthrob]].
==List of ventures by type==
===Storefronts===
{{main|eBay|Etsy}}
On 1 [[June 2014]], Chris began cashing in on his Internet infamy, by offering custom artwork for sale. He later expanded his sales to include autographed photos, medallions, custom Amiibos, and personal items related to Christory. This would be his most profitable and otherwise his most important commercial endeavour. Over the years, he would earn thousands of dollars by selling off Sonichu-themed memorabilia and sundries;<ref>Sales listings ([[2014-2015 Sales Listings|to 2015]], [[2016 Sales Listings|2016]], [[2017 Sales Listings|2017]], [[2018 Sales Listings|2018]], [[2019 Sales Listings|2019]])</ref> the largest financial contributions were often made by aspiring [[weens]] to establish contact with Chris and put themselves in a friendly position.<ref>[[Aly Hirschberg]]</ref><ref>[[Teen Troon Squad]]</ref><ref>[[Jacob Sockness]]</ref> He would not always fulfil his orders, however, and after receiving an abysmal 85% satisfaction rating through customer reviews, his merchant account was [[eBay#Suspension of Chris's eBay|suspended]] on 16 [[June 2019]]. Proposals to circumvent the ban through a partnership with [[Jacob Sockness]] were never implemented.

On 2 [[September 2015]], Chris expanded his online business to Etsy. He continued the same offerings from eBay and added a donation listing for the continuation of the Sonichu series. Days later, on 5 September, a YouTuber named [[DStecks]] donated $1,000, thinking that Chris would deliver 100 pages of Sonichu. Instead, Chris completed 16 pages before dropping the project. This move remains controversial with Christorians, as while some believe that he honestly wanted [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] to continue, others argue that this [[ween|weenish]] move validated begging in Chris's eyes, as seen with the influx of begging videos in the [[Financhu Crisis]]. In addition to DStecks, dozens of fans had also donated. Chris simply claimed that he was too stressed to continue ''Sonichu'' #11<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism]]</ref>.

However, Chris still had a passion for making custom [[Amiibo]]s for several months afterwards; he took it seriously enough that he was willing to [[Ohio trip|drive hundreds of miles]] through Virginia just to buy parts for Amiibos to sell on Etsy.<ref>[[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]]</ref> He wasted hundreds of dollars buying up Amiibos on eBay, thinking that the market for his custom figures would sustain itself indefinitely. This was not the case. and Chris eventually grew apathetic and bored with earning his own money. To complicate things further, Chris purchased a [[PS4]] in [[March 2016]]. The new life upgrade proved too distracting, and he ignored Etsy orders, often for months. Ultimately, Etsy took notice and banned his store from doing business.

===Self-publishing===
{{main|Lulu|Redbubble}}

Chris took over a decade to try any self-publishing channels. [[Clyde Cash]] beat him to the punch by posting Chris's comics on Lulu.com. Chris simply retorted by encouraging his [[fans]] not to buy them, and to simply wait for him to release the "real" versions later. According to [[Jackie e-mails Part 2|emails from 2010]], Chris claimed that he was working on fixing up his pages to be published on Lulu, taking an unreasonable amount of time to accomplish this amazingly simple task, and he eventually dropped the project. Undaunted, Chris began selling printed copies of the Sonichu comic on Lulu.com in [[September 2015]],<ref>[[September 2015 Facebook Posts#Now Chris is on Lulu]]</ref> as well as offering autographed versions through Etsy (by ordering the comics from Lulu, signing them, then shipping to the buyers).

In [[December 2015]], Chris was banned from Lulu for selling [[Sonichu (comic)|fan fiction]].<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Lulu Account Suspended]]</ref> In true Chris fashion, he responded by threatening Lulu's executives with physical violence,<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Threatening Lulu's Executives]]</ref> despite the fact that he was on probation for [[26 December 2014|an act of violence]] against a GameStop employee. Chris was able to continue selling comics in [[January 2016]],<ref>https://archive.md/p0WVk</ref> probably rejoining Lulu under an alternate account. He was discovered within a few months, and again his account was shut down.

Deprived of other reliable avenues, Chris has torpidly sought other ways to sell his own works. He opened a shop on Redbubble, an online shopping company where users can sell custom-printed items based on images of the seller's choice, on 3 [[October 2017]], selling pictures of himself pre-[[Tomgirl]] and drawings of himself on framed pictures, pillows, and miniskirts, among others. Much later, on 23 [[November 2019]], the spiritual successor to Chris's Etsy opened as a new Web site of the same name: [[Cwcvilleshopping.com]]. Here, Chris would offer his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|handmade trading cards]] for a ''[[My Little Pony]]''-themed game at extreme prices.

===Commissioning===
{{main|Paid Video Requests|Patreon|Cameo|OfficialCWCmart commissions}}
In December 2015, [[$50 for a video holiday greeting!|'''the singularity''']] happened. On Etsy, Chris offered to create a personalized video message for anyone who paid $50. Many of his fans took him up on the offer, thinking they could become [[Weening|a part of Christory]] by simply handing their money over to him. He received four sales within the first three days,<ref>[[:File:Etsy unlisted videos.jpg]]</ref> although those customers opted for their videos to be unlisted. A few people also chose public videos for their birthday shoutouts.<ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Jonathan]]</ref> After losing his Etsy shop, Chris continued offering video requests through text messages.<ref>[[Update 20160718]]</ref>

The videos Chris delivers are characterized by:

*Laziness. He has often been late on delivering, missing deadlines for birthday greetings, despite having an abundance of free time.<ref>[[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref>

*Sloppiness. Chris chooses not to edit his takes or look presentable. He has delivered a video featuring an upskirt shot of his maxipad.<ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Singing "Yellow Submarine"]]</ref>

*Explicitly stating that the content is boring. In many videos, Chris has mentioned his low opinion of his customers, saying things like "Eh, whatever" and "Wow, that's crazy, that's jus'... I feel like... it's weird. Whatever", while rolling his eyes.<ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Copypasta: Sexual Helicopter]]</ref><ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Copypasta: Gorilla Warfare]]</ref>

*Filling up paid content time with drivel or off-topic rambling,<ref>[[September 2016 Paid Video Requests#Paid Message to the Trolls]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref> despite the fact that his videos are advertised as "around a minute in length, on average, but can be longer in time length".<ref>[[Etsy#Custom, Birthday, Holiday, or General, Greeting Video featuring Christine Weston Chandler]]</ref>

In spite of these issues, he has a continuing stream of customers. A Kiwi Farms user named Vanillacone, summed up the mindset of the lot with his review of [[Happy Birthday, Jonathan|the $50 paid video he ordered from Chris]] (which consisted of him being late, babbling to fill up time, failing to spell the recipient's name correctly and delivering a video 39 seconds long out of the minimum one minute):

{{quotebox|To be honest, I got what I expected out of the video, and money well spent in my opinion.}}

Chris joined Patreon on 30 [[November 2016]] as a response to pressure from the [[Financhu Crisis]]. He initially set it up to beg for money, claiming that he would produce more Sonichu comics if his fans paid off his mortgage and bills – he was met with low support levels, generally below $40 per month. This suddenly changed around [[June 2017]]. Picking up momentum from resuming the Sonichu comic of his own volition in May, he revamped his Patreon to offer more reasonable support tiers for fans. He has enjoyed a significant uptick in support due to his continued work on the comic, earning around $500-600 per month. As his interest in his own comic has abated, and new pages more rarely released, patron support has shrivelled to about a third of its peak. Reforming his backer awards by distinguishing different ''[[Chris and English|teirs]]'' for every dollar level given have not improved his steady decline in support.

===Miscellaneous affairs===
{{main|Sonichu Entertainment of America}}
In [[May 2016]], Chris displayed a level of financial ignorance that shatters any hope of him ever becoming competent with money. Days after [[Please, Donate|begging for donations]] to assist his ailing household, he announced that he would be starting [[Sonichu Entertainment of America|his own business]], with the declaration that each employee's salary would be ''25% of the profit.'' Naturally, Chris completely fails to realize that under these conditions, he would have no money at all if he had four or more employees. However, that's just the tip of the iceberg; days later, he uploaded [[Proposition to Sega|a video]] attempting to go into business with Sega to create official Sonichu products. In the video, he demands a six-figure salary, along with [[Chris and health|full insurance benefits]] and [[Chris and reality|maternity leave]]. These incidents seem to indicate Chris's belief that money comes out of nowhere and is unlimited in value. Three years later, in [[April 2019]], ''Sonichu Entertainment of America'' was noted by Google Maps, prompting Chris to laud his company as legitimate in a video, though it would see no further activity.

On 24 [[November 2016]], Chris asked his audience to watch a clip of him playing ''[[Skylanders]]'', by uploading [[CWC vs Koas]], in order to promote the idea of selling his [[Chris and his Ego#Fixation on self-image|in-game figure]] to them using the game's [https://www.skylanders.com/creator Skylanders Creation app]. He would charge "$20 extra" for his autograph. He also said "I am not sharing my creation app chirp", since this would allow people to order directly from Skylanders and cut off Chris's goal of [[Sonichu Amiibo#Custom Chris Chan Amiibo Complete Three Piece Set (from Original Creator)|profiting from his self-image]].<ref>https://archive.md/fhBJ2</ref> On 12 January 2017, Chris uploaded [[Skylanders Imaginators Leader Christine W Chandler: random Review N' Stuff]] as a half-hour advertisement video, showing off multiple ''Skylanders'' products he had ordered, a $15 card, a $30 T-shirt and a $50 3D-doll, all emblazoned with his avatar image, [[Financhu Crisis|totaling at least $90]].

[[File:Skylanders swag.png|thumb|The ''Skylanders'' raffle prizes, featuring images of Chris's custom game avatar.]]
Chris's largest business failure to date followed soon after. Various ''Skylanders'' avatar products and a Son-Chu figure were announced as prizes for a raffle Chris conceived<ref>[[March 2017 Facebook Posts#Raffle for new merch]]</ref> to push sales of his [[stamps]], slated to run from 27 March through [[Honor roll|31 April]] 2017. The cost of entry was buying one of Bob's stamps or Chris's stamp album on eBay, with a limit of one entry per buyer. Initially, Chris announced that the winner would receive a [[Son-Chu]] figure and a ''Skylanders'' figure, and 15 runners-up would each receive a ''Skylanders'' card. A week later, he added ''more'' prizes to the mix: ''Skylanders'' T-shirts.<ref>[[April 2017 Facebook posts#Another gimmick for stamp sales]]</ref>

[[File:Son-chu package.jpeg|250px|thumb|left]]
Chris seemed to be banking on the $1,000 album selling, as it was the only scenario in which he could have shown a profit from the raffle – he promised an automatic win of a set of all three prizes. His expenditure for the raffle prizes totalled '''$840'''.<ref>He confirmed ordering $750 of Skylanders cards/T-shirts in [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017]]. After the raffle, Chris mentioned [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 05052017|in a video]] that he still needed to order the Skylanders figure and parts to make Son-Chu (estimated at $40).</ref> No one bought the album, and less than 15 people participated in the raffle (although a mass buyer had purchased 18 stamps). He was left with a '''negative profit of $674.24'''.<ref>[[Stamps#Raffle]]</ref>

In [[December 2020]], Chris teamed up with [[Praetor]] to produce more Sonichu [[medallions]]. The medallions are not created by Chris, but he (supposedly) oversees the design and production of the medallions. The medallions are of noticeably worse quality than those created by Chris, but that hasn't stopped the team from selling over 130 medallions as of 14 December 2020. The jointly-owned [[Etsy]] page can be found [https://www.etsy.com/shop/OfficialCWCmart here].

By [[May 2022]], the partnership with Praetor extended to [[Praetor Jail Art|selling monochrome artwork Chris had drawn whilst jailed]]. Naturally, given the [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|newer delusions Chris had begun to machinate shortly after ending up behind bars]], these drawings primarily center around his pseudo-religion.

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===Abortive ventures===
In [[November 2015]], Chris announced that he would be setting up a shop on '''Zazzle.com'''.<ref>[[Thank You, Jeff, and I accept your apology.]]</ref> He mentioned it again half a year later, in June 2016.<ref>[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation]]</ref> No progress was made, and to this day, Chris has never opened a Zazzle shop. Why he dragged his feet so much is unknown: Zazzle takes care of manufacturing and shipping, and there are no startup costs. All he would have to do is take some Sonichu drawings and upload them.

In [[October 2017]], amid being the subject of '''interviews''' by [[Merryweathery]], [[Documentary|Sachumo]] and [[CopperCab]], Chris announced that he was open to being a guest on more interviews for payment<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#Accepting_paid_interviews</ref>. Although he didn't specify his going rate, Merryweathery mentioned that Chris had asked him for $200<ref>https://archive.md/r6gWI</ref>. He has since given interviews for free,<ref>[[Pappy Van Poodle Interview]]</ref> taking the bend out of this potential scheme (although it seems that he was paid for [[The Create Unknown]] interview in [[October 2020]]).

==Customers and their reasons for buying==
{{see also|List of Chris's financial enablers}}

{{quote|a piece of valuable Internet culture|A potential buyer on Chris's comics.}}

[[File:Potential customers.png|thumb|200px|Potential customers mull over buying Chris's comics on [[Patreon]].]]

While many who follow Chris refuse to give him money and shun those who do, buyers seem to regard Chris memorabilia as pieces of internet culture that might become valuable over time. A February 2019 video in which a customer unboxed a [[Sonichu 0]] comic printed from [[Lulu]] attracted over 100,000 views, and many commentators expressed a desire to buy for themselves.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5G5U-eLzEg</ref> Ironically, the resulting bump in Chris's Patreon gave him so many orders to fulfill that he crashed into slumber and simply ignored the backlog of orders.

==Ad revenue==

When he was uploading his ''Sonichu'' comic pages to the [[CWCipedia]] in 2009, the thought of monetizing his web comic didn't cross his mind. People had been annoying – nay, ''harassing'' him with advertising he didn't approve of, yet when he attempted to replace these offensive ads with ads of his own, he simply put some random advertisements on his webpage ''without actually signing any sort of advertisement contract'' – the ads didn't make him any money. There are several advertising programs that allow individual people to put ads on their personal pages and make money out of them; some of these programs are even specifically geared toward webcomic artists. Many web comics have a donation box where readers can donate money to the artist via PayPal or similar services.

In [[2016]], Chris monetized his YouTube channel<ref>[[Chris and money#YouTube monetization]]</ref> and added a Support button<ref>[[Chris and money#YouTube Support button]]</ref> (ostensibly to accept donations for Sonichu projects, even though he didn't want to work on that, and for a year, YouTube simply became another place from which he could beg for money).

It took a while for Chris to try drawing on-camera in [[Live Drawing Streams]], and even then, he hasn't demonstrated it too often and has done an extremely poor job of it. He simply sits in front of his [[PS4]] camera, which is hard-coded to only record in flipped mirror mode, and is positioned so that viewers see an upside-down video set at a dizzying angle.

== Schedule slip ==
Most webcomics have a set schedule: some update weekly, some many times a week, some daily. Some webcomics update whenever the hell the artists get inspired enough to draw a comic, and probably reserve a whole forum for people who whine about lack of updates. Most webcomic artists that update the comic three times a week consider that schedule very demanding, and webcomics that update daily usually generate revenue of some sort (ads, donations, print versions, merchandise, what-have-you), allowing the artists treat their comics like a full-day job. These are called self-sufficient webcomics. (Examples: ''Penny Arcade'', ''xkcd'', ''Questionable Content''.)

Chris has thoroughly embraced the point of view that the comic shouldn't have a set schedule and inspiration doesn't have a deadline... while ''also'' promising us that the comic would be updated daily. On 14 [[November 2009]], Chris promised that the comic would be updated daily, and he managed to fulfill this promise for a while. By the end of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris was already placing author-substitutes in the story telling people to quit whining about the lack of updates. This is obviously not a question of punctuality, but [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrisy]]; Chris would avoid a lot of drama if he just admitted that there's no set schedule whatsoever after all. If one ''does'' consider this a question of punctuality, it doesn't look too good.

Chris also tends to update in spurts in an attempt to make up for missed days; this can range anywhere from three to twenty pages at a time. Most professional web cartoonists have a buffer of guest comics so that they can avoid this sort of thing, but the thought of doing so has apparently never entered Chris's [[Autism|autistic]] mind.

The same mindset also pervades every other aspect of his business, namely that Chris will procrastinate on shipping orders. A key example is how he almost fucked up the [[Sonic Totem]] sale - he received $1,500 for it, immediately wasted much of his profit on [[$400 gold necklace|bling]] and failed to ship it to the buyer on time, saying that he had run out of money to pay for mailing it, and only got around to having his mother scrounge up the cash to do so after the buyer filed a Paypal dispute. He also lost his Etsy shop as a direct result of his poor work ethic.

==Pipe dreams==

{{quote|----When Do You Want [[Nintendo]] and [[SEGA]] to Talk to Me to EVOLVE [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] more Realistically?----
NOW!!!|Chris, [[An Important Update|demanding that multinational corporations take orders from a nobody]]}}

Chris has had numerous aspirations to work in creative industries. So far, he has expressed his desire to make [[Sonichu (game)|several official ''Sonichu'' video games]], and work on a real [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]] for a real comic publisher. However, [[Chris and his Ego|for reasons best known to himself]], he elects not to find out how these industries actually work, which is quite strange; one would assume that a person seeking a career in the industries would at least take ''some'' effort to find out how the said industries work.

=== Official publication ===

In ''[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]'' and [[Chris's resume|Chris's résumé]], it's revealed that Chris is under the impression that his [[Chris and art|art]] isn't just good, but professional quality, and that he aspires to get into the comics and video game business. The résumé reveals his widely varied skills with both pens and crayons and his desire to work as an artist for a professional comic company such as [[Wikipedia:Archie Comics|Archie Comics]] or [[Wikipedia:Marvel Comics|Marvel]], creating his ''Sonichu'' comics. There is no word on whether or not he actually submitted anything to these companies, or if they replied.

Unfortunately for Chris, the publishing industry doesn't work this way, especially not in the case of "original" creations. In the case of original work, the publishers expect complete works to be submitted to them, usually through an agent. An agent's job is to separate the [[Asperchu|wheat]] from the [[Sonichu (comic)|chaff]] and find the correct publisher for the work, taking a small percentage of the eventual profit for their reward. If the publishers take unsolicited submissions, they have to sift through a gigantic backlog (often called "slushpile") of submissions of highly varying quality, most of which end up rejected multiple times before there will be a publisher with the right market in mind and the right publication schedule to allow the publication deal to go forward. The whole process can take years in case of a single work.

If comic book publishers have salaried artists, they usually need to have a portfolio of previous work, usually work that has already been published commercially, or (if the comic house is ''particularly'' lenient, and most big names aren't) there has to be evidence of a successfully self-published, high-quality comic. And even in this case, these artists usually only work on characters and plotlines that come from inside the house; it can take time before the artist is in any position to present their own ideas for comics, or use their own original characters. Even if he ''were'' able to stick in a company for a long time, he'd still need to improve his communication skills a lot. If the ''[[Sonichu Chronicles]]'' PowerPoint and various phone conversations are of any indication, he's unable to persuade his superiors that his ideas are worth working on.

In short, Chris is deluded if he thinks that any company will just pick him up and tell him to work on ''Sonichu'' comics.

Even if Chris does get in, there's also the problem with scheduling. Most comics are worked on far in advance, thus allowing for any changes concerning a book, such as plot problems, character availability changes or even cancellations. Even so, many of them maintain a certain schedule, either monthly or bi-monthly (sometimes quarterly). Very rarely do comics go bi-weekly (one every two weeks), though weekly series have been more common, though infrequent. ([[Wikipedia:DC Comics|DC Comics]], for example, experimented with the weekly format in the [[1980s]] with ''[[Wikipedia:Action Comics#Action Comics Weekly|Action Comics Weekly]]'', an anthology which bombed and put the title on hiatus for a few months, returning it to its normal ''[[Wikipedia:Action Comics|Action Comics]]'' title and monthly format. Twenty years later, DC has churned out a number of weekly series, including ''[[Wikipedia:52 (comics)|52]]'', ''[[wikipedia:Countdown to Final Crisis|Countdown]]'', ''[[Wikipedia:Trinity (comic book)|Trinity]]'' and more recently ''[[wikipedia:The New 52: Future's End|The New 52: Future's End]]''.)

Chris, however, has no schedule. His schedule consists of "whenever he has the inspiration" to work. That doesn't cut it. If Chris went with that alone, he would have a release schedule that would rival [[Wikipedia:Rob Liefeld|Rob Liefeld]] and [[Wikipedia:Valve Time|Valve]]. And where Liefeld, for the most part, could get away with it because he owned his own company at one point (and people have gotten him to actually do the work), if Chris pulled this kind of stunt, he'd be out on the street so fast, his head would spin.

Chris's understanding of [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] is a chapter in itself. Publishers want primarily original works, because securing the necessary rights to publish derivative works is often difficult or impossible. Chris has even resisted attempts to educate him in this regard.<ref>[[Mailbag 29]]</ref>

On 14 [[August 2017]], Chris uploaded a [[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content|video]] where he updated the True and Loyal Fanbase on his progress on ''Sonichu'' #13, which he has re-numbered as ''Sonichu'' #12-9. He states that he decided to change the focus of the comic. Instead of being a crossover between the Sonichu gang and the [[Planet Dolan]] crew, it would instead be a fanfiction devoted to his pony avatar, [[Night Star]]. Throughout the video, he mentions how he not only wants the comic to be a piece of fanfiction, [[Chris and reality|but how he also wants it to be canon to ''My Little Pony'', where he himself would voice Night Star]]. Of course, Chris doesn't seem to realize that the creators of the show can't just simply pick up his idea because, as stated earlier, it may lead to an accusation of idea theft.

Yet another reason why the publishing industry wouldn't accept Sonichu in its current state is because of how [[Chris and writing|sloppily written]] and [[Chris and his ego|egocentric it is in tone]]. If a publisher somehow ''did'' agree to make Sonichu comics, they would more likely task other writers (not to mention artists) with actual talents to shape up the premise into something at least passable. Predictably enough, Chris would balk at lacking control over his life's work (and of course, anyone doing better than him).

===Games and merchandise===
Chris could approach [[Sega]] and [[Nintendo]] and ask them to make ''Sonichu'' games, comics and merchandise. This plan would also be doomed to failure, because no media companies want unsolicited ideas from the public. There are several reasons for this.

First, it takes effort to sift through idea piles and they can't give an equal amount of thought on the countless ideas fans send them. While game companies may listen to their fans, they usually just want to know if the time is ripe for something they've been planning to do. (For example, no doubt a big part of the reason why the newer ''[[Wikipedia:Fire Emblem|Fire Emblem]]'' games got worldwide release was that the fans of [[Wikipedia:Marth (Fire Emblem)|Marth]] and [[Wikipedia:List of Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi characters#Roy|Roy]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Super Smash Bros. Melee|Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' were wondering aloud "why the hell isn't [[Nintendo]] releasing these games outside of Japan?") They most certainly don't have the capability of starting a whole new game project just because someone asks. If the game companies respond by saying Chris had, as he himself so [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|eloquently put]], "rocks in his head", then you probably don't get a slice of their precious time for making a second impression. Simply put, Chris thinks that even when the companies aren't busy with other projects, they still have time to think of ''his'' grandiose ideas ''and those things only''.

Second, there is an age-old problem in a litigious society: A fan writes to the company and says "I have this cool idea", the company says "thanks, but no thanks", one of the in-house writers comes up with exactly the same idea by accident, and boom, you have a fan who's suing you for idea theft, and even if that lawsuit will usually go nowhere, it wastes perfectly usable time, energy and most of all ''money'' that could be used for more fruitful ventures. A famous example is British novelist [[Wikipedia:Terry Pratchett|Terry Pratchett]], who used to post in his Usenet fan group until one of the fans was convinced Terry had stolen his ideas.

Therefore, most media houses will just say they will not take any ideas from the public. The game industry is not an exception. This fact has been pointed out to Chris numerous times (and at least twice by real Nintendo representatives, as evidenced by the letters he has read in the Captain's Logs<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 15th, 2008]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009]]</ref>). Unfortunately, Chris misinterpreted all this.

Another thing that Chris disregards is the fact that writing games take a lot of effort. In [[Wikipedia:Thomas Edison|Thomas Edison]]'s words, getting things done is "1% inspiration and 99% perspiration." Many good ideas don't get implemented. No one is going to invest energy in developing an idea alone if they don't know if the idea can be implemented. Game companies may be willing to negotiate a deal to use their properties (such as characters) in games developed by third parties, but those proposals are usually backed up by real companies, actual creative teams of developers, and serious, complete plans for games, if not outright working prototypes already. Even in the case the properties are tacked on the prototype later on, the prototypes are usually fully developed so that they can be used ''without'' those properties if the plans fall through. (Example: ''[[Wikipedia:Star Fox Adventures|Star Fox Adventures]]'' began as a game that was completely unrelated to Star Fox universe, but Nintendo felt the game was better with SF characters.)

Surprisingly, in the [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine]], then high schooler-aged Chris offered a (slightly) better description of how the three fictional Sonic game releases he hoped for would play out than his proposals for Sonichu games later on and even then, they're highly basic and unoriginal ideas (e.g. ''Super Mario 64'' with Sonic the Hedgehog as its playable character and ''Super Mario All-Stars'' with the four classic ''Sonic'' games originally for Sega Genesis).

Theoretically, it would be possible, though extraordinarily unlikely, for Sega and Nintendo to cooperate enough to make a game featuring a Sonic/Pikachu hybrid named Sonichu. They would not, however, need any input from Chris, or even his permission, to combine characters that ''they'' own. Think about it. Of course, the idea of releasing it cross-platform for ''Sony consoles'' remains yet another absurd and fevered dream on the part of Chris.

In the Sonichu Chronicles he gives [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] "permission" to use the cover to his [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|hand-drawn ''Nintendo Power'' magazine]] as the inevitable cover for when his game is created, even though it's several years old (and, in fact, even ''worse'' than Chris's current skill at art).

To the surprise of no one, Chris has held onto dreams of Sonichu getting turned into a video game character well into [[November 2023]], when he posted a request to "personally" work with [[Nintendo]], offering them his OCs to be integrated into Pokémon canon<ref>[[November 2023 social media posts#Offering to work with Nintendo]]</ref>. Equally unsurprising is that Chris seems to be unaware (willfully or otherwise) that Nintendo has nothing to gain by granting fans' (ludicrous) desires for all the reasons mentioned here.

===In general===
An issue Chris would face in the industries he aspired to contribute towards is that mainstream publishers will not allow ''any'' pornographic material ([[Sonichu 8|which Chris had nonchalantly drawn into his supposedly kid-friendly comic]]), thus Chris would be forced to comply with a set of rules to make his magnum opus acceptable for the masses, and we all know how ''that'' would turn out.

By a similar token, both Nintendo and Sega would probably not allow [[Sonichu 10|the extreme violent]] [[Sonichu 8|and sexual imagery]] the comic didn't shy away from, especially since he considers Sonichu appropriate for kids (although he did imagine his [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles| Adult Chronicles]] to be rated M for [[Honest Content]]). And that's if they didn't reject it outright ''because of'' said imagery, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|not to mention Chris had drawn smut of his magnum opus himself in the past]] which could make a bad first impression on any reputable company approached to work with him.

Not to mention that Chris, being the egotist we know and love, would have to essentially hand over the rights for Sonichu to whichever company agrees to own his IP, meaning he would have no little to no say in how it plays out according to his whims.

If Chris actually ''were'' in a position of creative control, consider this; during the majority of time the [[CWCipedia]] was online, Chris acted as if he had free reign to dictate a site ''others made and hosted for him'', so letting him be head honcho of a comic or game production would be a colossal mistake. Needless to say, the [[Chris and stress|stress]] of working under him would lead some unfortunate writers/developers to quit and/or the higher-ups to [[Wendy's|eventually fire him]].

==The future of Chris and his business attempts==
After [[Affair With Mother|the life-changing incest scandal in the mid-summer of 2021]],[[Praetor]] successfully continued business with Chris, selling drawings he had made during incarceration and, since his release from jail, a further run of [[Medallions]] and other assorted junk, as well as setting up livestreams. As mentioned in the intro, these business ventures seem to be providing a steady stream of income for Chris, so much so that he was able to sink his [[Monthly tugboat|tugboat]] and finally become "employed" again.

== See also ==
* [[Chris and copyright]]
* [[Chris and work]]
* [[Chris's resume]]
* [[DStecks]], a person who gave Chris $1,000 for more Sonichu pages.
* [[An Important Update]]
* ''[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]'', Chris's not-very-creative-pitch-like PowerPoint presentation
* [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]], in which Chris likewise fails to sell a project idea
* [[Sonichu (game)|''Sonichu'' (game)]]

== References ==
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FullNameUnknown: LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT HE IS RICH

{{Dated|Chris's business ventures following his release from [[Jail Saga|jail]]}}
{{Needs Updating|[[OfficialCWCmart]]|[[Cwclight]]|[[Cameo]]}}
{{quote|That is not my fault the frame got broke in transaction, the envelope was clearly marked “Fragile” and “Handle With Care”, and it was shipped well in a bubble envelope. Either you, being Trollish, or the Postal Carriers are to blame for the frame’s arriving condition.|An example of Chris's customer service skills<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20220516025146/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1017880748009967618</ref>}}

[[File:Update 1 17 2016 (720p).mp400001.png|thumb|Chris pictured at his "[[Work Room]]" in [[January 2016]]]]

Chris launched an online '''business''' in [[June 2014]], selling custom arts and crafts through [[eBay]]. A year later, he moved shop to [[Etsy]], under a brand titled "Cwcville Shopping". He also began selling printed copies of [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]] on [[Lulu]]. He held a steady stream of customers, despite issues with production and sending orders on time. For a while, he had achieved his dream of selling his own Sonichu merchandise, and was making plenty of [[Chris and money|money]].

However, exactly two years and one week after the start of his business, on 8 [[June 2016]], Chris's [[Chris and work|infamous laziness]] caught up to him, and he was banned from Etsy for ignoring orders over a span of months beginning from when he bought a [[PS4]]. He did not take responsibility for the self-inflicted failure of his business. Instead, he lied to save face and cast blame on Lulu.com's staff for having stressed him out by labeling Sonichu as fan fiction and banning his account half a year beforehand in [[December 2016]] (even though he had actually ban-evaded by opening a private account and was back to offering books through Lulu's services only weeks later).

After the Etsy ban, Chris fell back on [[Financhu Crisis|begging]] and Paid Video Requests to cover [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]'s credit card bills and his expensive [[toy]] purchases. In [[May 2017]], he felt like returning to work on the Sonichu comic and, throughout the next several months, began to rebuild his business, using [[Patreon]], Lulu and [[Redbubble]], and accepting interviews for money. In [[November 2019]], Chris created a website called [[CWCville Shopping]] to sell cards and comics, though it only lasted a few months as Chris couldn't afford to pay the monthly fee to keep the site up.

In [[September 2020]], a [[fan]] named [[Caden Peck]] and Co went to Chris's house to propose a business partnership with their group [[Praetor]]. This allowed Chris to return to Etsy yet again with the opening of [[OfficialCWCmart]] in [[December 2020]]. Caden has expressed his interest in Chris's level of popularity in contrast to how little he capitalizes on it, and has taken note of Chris being [[Chris and stress|overwhelmed]] at his own attempts to do so, both of which being reasons why he decided to reach out to him himself.<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The Place Chats#Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref> Caden has claimed that no one else previously has been "smart enough" to be as successful as Praetor is with Chris.<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref> In [[September 2024]], Chris created a website called [[Cwclight]] to sell various junk. After many years, Chris returned to making personalized video messages, joining the [[Cameo]] website in [[February 2026]].

Chris & Praetor seem to have been very successful with Chris, with his [[OfficialCWCmart|Etsy shop]] raking in an estimated $151,371 after Etsy fees. While it is almost guaranteed that most of the money is funneled back to Praetor and Caden, this seems to be a steady source of income for Chris and is assumedly how he is able to keep making frivolous purchases, along with how he is able to keep spoiling his little [[Finnish hearthrob|Flutter]].
==List of ventures by type==
===Storefronts===
{{main|eBay|Etsy}}
On 1 [[June 2014]], Chris began cashing in on his Internet infamy, by offering custom artwork for sale. He later expanded his sales to include autographed photos, medallions, custom Amiibos, and personal items related to Christory. This would be his most profitable and otherwise his most important commercial endeavour. Over the years, he would earn thousands of dollars by selling off Sonichu-themed memorabilia and sundries;<ref>Sales listings ([[2014-2015 Sales Listings|to 2015]], [[2016 Sales Listings|2016]], [[2017 Sales Listings|2017]], [[2018 Sales Listings|2018]], [[2019 Sales Listings|2019]])</ref> the largest financial contributions were often made by aspiring [[weens]] to establish contact with Chris and put themselves in a friendly position.<ref>[[Aly Hirschberg]]</ref><ref>[[Teen Troon Squad]]</ref><ref>[[Jacob Sockness]]</ref> He would not always fulfil his orders, however, and after receiving an abysmal 85% satisfaction rating through customer reviews, his merchant account was [[eBay#Suspension of Chris's eBay|suspended]] on 16 [[June 2019]]. Proposals to circumvent the ban through a partnership with [[Jacob Sockness]] were never implemented.

On 2 [[September 2015]], Chris expanded his online business to Etsy. He continued the same offerings from eBay and added a donation listing for the continuation of the Sonichu series. Days later, on 5 September, a YouTuber named [[DStecks]] donated $1,000, thinking that Chris would deliver 100 pages of Sonichu. Instead, Chris completed 16 pages before dropping the project. This move remains controversial with Christorians, as while some believe that he honestly wanted [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] to continue, others argue that this [[ween|weenish]] move validated begging in Chris's eyes, as seen with the influx of begging videos in the [[Financhu Crisis]]. In addition to DStecks, dozens of fans had also donated. Chris simply claimed that he was too stressed to continue ''Sonichu'' #11<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism]]</ref>.

However, Chris still had a passion for making custom [[Amiibo]]s for several months afterwards; he took it seriously enough that he was willing to [[Ohio trip|drive hundreds of miles]] through Virginia just to buy parts for Amiibos to sell on Etsy.<ref>[[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]]</ref> He wasted hundreds of dollars buying up Amiibos on eBay, thinking that the market for his custom figures would sustain itself indefinitely. This was not the case. and Chris eventually grew apathetic and bored with earning his own money. To complicate things further, Chris purchased a [[PS4]] in [[March 2016]]. The new life upgrade proved too distracting, and he ignored Etsy orders, often for months. Ultimately, Etsy took notice and banned his store from doing business.

===Self-publishing===
{{main|Lulu|Redbubble}}

Chris took over a decade to try any self-publishing channels. [[Clyde Cash]] beat him to the punch by posting Chris's comics on Lulu.com. Chris simply retorted by encouraging his [[fans]] not to buy them, and to simply wait for him to release the "real" versions later. According to [[Jackie e-mails Part 2|emails from 2010]], Chris claimed that he was working on fixing up his pages to be published on Lulu, taking an unreasonable amount of time to accomplish this amazingly simple task, and he eventually dropped the project. Undaunted, Chris began selling printed copies of the Sonichu comic on Lulu.com in [[September 2015]],<ref>[[September 2015 Facebook Posts#Now Chris is on Lulu]]</ref> as well as offering autographed versions through Etsy (by ordering the comics from Lulu, signing them, then shipping to the buyers).

In [[December 2015]], Chris was banned from Lulu for selling [[Sonichu (comic)|fan fiction]].<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Lulu Account Suspended]]</ref> In true Chris fashion, he responded by threatening Lulu's executives with physical violence,<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Threatening Lulu's Executives]]</ref> despite the fact that he was on probation for [[26 December 2014|an act of violence]] against a GameStop employee. Chris was able to continue selling comics in [[January 2016]],<ref>https://archive.md/p0WVk</ref> probably rejoining Lulu under an alternate account. He was discovered within a few months, and again his account was shut down.

Deprived of other reliable avenues, Chris has torpidly sought other ways to sell his own works. He opened a shop on Redbubble, an online shopping company where users can sell custom-printed items based on images of the seller's choice, on 3 [[October 2017]], selling pictures of himself pre-[[Tomgirl]] and drawings of himself on framed pictures, pillows, and miniskirts, among others. Much later, on 23 [[November 2019]], the spiritual successor to Chris's Etsy opened as a new Web site of the same name: [[Cwcvilleshopping.com]]. Here, Chris would offer his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|handmade trading cards]] for a ''[[My Little Pony]]''-themed game at extreme prices.

===Commissioning===
{{main|Paid Video Requests|Patreon|Cameo|OfficialCWCmart commissions}}
In December 2015, [[$50 for a video holiday greeting!|'''the singularity''']] happened. On Etsy, Chris offered to create a personalized video message for anyone who paid $50. Many of his fans took him up on the offer, thinking they could become [[Weening|a part of Christory]] by simply handing their money over to him. He received four sales within the first three days,<ref>[[:File:Etsy unlisted videos.jpg]]</ref> although those customers opted for their videos to be unlisted. A few people also chose public videos for their birthday shoutouts.<ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Jonathan]]</ref> After losing his Etsy shop, Chris continued offering video requests through text messages.<ref>[[Update 20160718]]</ref>

The videos Chris delivers are characterized by:

*Laziness. He has often been late on delivering, missing deadlines for birthday greetings, despite having an abundance of free time.<ref>[[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref>

*Sloppiness. Chris chooses not to edit his takes or look presentable. He has delivered a video featuring an upskirt shot of his maxipad.<ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Singing "Yellow Submarine"]]</ref>

*Explicitly stating that the content is boring. In many videos, Chris has mentioned his low opinion of his customers, saying things like "Eh, whatever" and "Wow, that's crazy, that's jus'... I feel like... it's weird. Whatever", while rolling his eyes.<ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Copypasta: Sexual Helicopter]]</ref><ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Copypasta: Gorilla Warfare]]</ref>

*Filling up paid content time with drivel or off-topic rambling,<ref>[[September 2016 Paid Video Requests#Paid Message to the Trolls]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref> despite the fact that his videos are advertised as "around a minute in length, on average, but can be longer in time length".<ref>[[Etsy#Custom, Birthday, Holiday, or General, Greeting Video featuring Christine Weston Chandler]]</ref>

In spite of these issues, he has a continuing stream of customers. A Kiwi Farms user named Vanillacone, summed up the mindset of the lot with his review of [[Happy Birthday, Jonathan|the $50 paid video he ordered from Chris]] (which consisted of him being late, babbling to fill up time, failing to spell the recipient's name correctly and delivering a video 39 seconds long out of the minimum one minute):

{{quotebox|To be honest, I got what I expected out of the video, and money well spent in my opinion.}}

Chris joined Patreon on 30 [[November 2016]] as a response to pressure from the [[Financhu Crisis]]. He initially set it up to beg for money, claiming that he would produce more Sonichu comics if his fans paid off his mortgage and bills – he was met with low support levels, generally below $40 per month. This suddenly changed around [[June 2017]]. Picking up momentum from resuming the Sonichu comic of his own volition in May, he revamped his Patreon to offer more reasonable support tiers for fans. He has enjoyed a significant uptick in support due to his continued work on the comic, earning around $500-600 per month. As his interest in his own comic has abated, and new pages more rarely released, patron support has shrivelled to about a third of its peak. Reforming his backer awards by distinguishing different ''[[Chris and English|teirs]]'' for every dollar level given have not improved his steady decline in support.

===Miscellaneous affairs===
{{main|Sonichu Entertainment of America}}
In [[May 2016]], Chris displayed a level of financial ignorance that shatters any hope of him ever becoming competent with money. Days after [[Please, Donate|begging for donations]] to assist his ailing household, he announced that he would be starting [[Sonichu Entertainment of America|his own business]], with the declaration that each employee's salary would be ''25% of the profit.'' Naturally, Chris completely fails to realize that under these conditions, he would have no money at all if he had four or more employees. However, that's just the tip of the iceberg; days later, he uploaded [[Proposition to Sega|a video]] attempting to go into business with Sega to create official Sonichu products. In the video, he demands a six-figure salary, along with [[Chris and health|full insurance benefits]] and [[Chris and reality|maternity leave]]. These incidents seem to indicate Chris's belief that money comes out of nowhere and is unlimited in value. Three years later, in [[April 2019]], ''Sonichu Entertainment of America'' was noted by Google Maps, prompting Chris to laud his company as legitimate in a video, though it would see no further activity.

On 24 [[November 2016]], Chris asked his audience to watch a clip of him playing ''[[Skylanders]]'', by uploading [[CWC vs Koas]], in order to promote the idea of selling his [[Chris and his Ego#Fixation on self-image|in-game figure]] to them using the game's [https://www.skylanders.com/creator Skylanders Creation app]. He would charge "$20 extra" for his autograph. He also said "I am not sharing my creation app chirp", since this would allow people to order directly from Skylanders and cut off Chris's goal of [[Sonichu Amiibo#Custom Chris Chan Amiibo Complete Three Piece Set (from Original Creator)|profiting from his self-image]].<ref>https://archive.md/fhBJ2</ref> On 12 January 2017, Chris uploaded [[Skylanders Imaginators Leader Christine W Chandler: random Review N' Stuff]] as a half-hour advertisement video, showing off multiple ''Skylanders'' products he had ordered, a $15 card, a $30 T-shirt and a $50 3D-doll, all emblazoned with his avatar image, [[Financhu Crisis|totaling at least $90]].

[[File:Skylanders swag.png|thumb|The ''Skylanders'' raffle prizes, featuring images of Chris's custom game avatar.]]
Chris's largest business failure to date followed soon after. Various ''Skylanders'' avatar products and a Son-Chu figure were announced as prizes for a raffle Chris conceived<ref>[[March 2017 Facebook Posts#Raffle for new merch]]</ref> to push sales of his [[stamps]], slated to run from 27 March through [[Honor roll|31 April]] 2017. The cost of entry was buying one of Bob's stamps or Chris's stamp album on eBay, with a limit of one entry per buyer. Initially, Chris announced that the winner would receive a [[Son-Chu]] figure and a ''Skylanders'' figure, and 15 runners-up would each receive a ''Skylanders'' card. A week later, he added ''more'' prizes to the mix: ''Skylanders'' T-shirts.<ref>[[April 2017 Facebook posts#Another gimmick for stamp sales]]</ref>

[[File:Son-chu package.jpeg|250px|thumb|left]]
Chris seemed to be banking on the $1,000 album selling, as it was the only scenario in which he could have shown a profit from the raffle – he promised an automatic win of a set of all three prizes. His expenditure for the raffle prizes totalled '''$840'''.<ref>He confirmed ordering $750 of Skylanders cards/T-shirts in [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017]]. After the raffle, Chris mentioned [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 05052017|in a video]] that he still needed to order the Skylanders figure and parts to make Son-Chu (estimated at $40).</ref> No one bought the album, and less than 15 people participated in the raffle (although a mass buyer had purchased 18 stamps). He was left with a '''negative profit of $674.24'''.<ref>[[Stamps#Raffle]]</ref>

In [[December 2020]], Chris teamed up with [[Praetor]] to produce more Sonichu [[medallions]]. The medallions are not created by Chris, but he (supposedly) oversees the design and production of the medallions. The medallions are of noticeably worse quality than those created by Chris, but that hasn't stopped the team from selling over 130 medallions as of 14 December 2020. The jointly-owned [[Etsy]] page can be found [https://www.etsy.com/shop/OfficialCWCmart here].

By [[May 2022]], the partnership with Praetor extended to [[Praetor Jail Art|selling monochrome artwork Chris had drawn whilst jailed]]. Naturally, given the [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|newer delusions Chris had begun to machinate shortly after ending up behind bars]], these drawings primarily center around his pseudo-religion.

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===Abortive ventures===
In [[November 2015]], Chris announced that he would be setting up a shop on '''Zazzle.com'''.<ref>[[Thank You, Jeff, and I accept your apology.]]</ref> He mentioned it again half a year later, in June 2016.<ref>[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation]]</ref> No progress was made, and to this day, Chris has never opened a Zazzle shop. Why he dragged his feet so much is unknown: Zazzle takes care of manufacturing and shipping, and there are no startup costs. All he would have to do is take some Sonichu drawings and upload them.

In [[October 2017]], amid being the subject of '''interviews''' by [[Merryweathery]], [[Documentary|Sachumo]] and [[CopperCab]], Chris announced that he was open to being a guest on more interviews for payment<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#Accepting_paid_interviews</ref>. Although he didn't specify his going rate, Merryweathery mentioned that Chris had asked him for $200<ref>https://archive.md/r6gWI</ref>. He has since given interviews for free,<ref>[[Pappy Van Poodle Interview]]</ref> taking the bend out of this potential scheme (although it seems that he was paid for [[The Create Unknown]] interview in [[October 2020]]).

==Customers and their reasons for buying==
{{see also|List of Chris's financial enablers}}

{{quote|a piece of valuable Internet culture|A potential buyer on Chris's comics.}}

[[File:Potential customers.png|thumb|200px|Potential customers mull over buying Chris's comics on [[Patreon]].]]

While many who follow Chris refuse to give him money and shun those who do, buyers seem to regard Chris memorabilia as pieces of internet culture that might become valuable over time. A February 2019 video in which a customer unboxed a [[Sonichu 0]] comic printed from [[Lulu]] attracted over 100,000 views, and many commentators expressed a desire to buy for themselves.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5G5U-eLzEg</ref> Ironically, the resulting bump in Chris's Patreon gave him so many orders to fulfill that he crashed into slumber and simply ignored the backlog of orders.

==Ad revenue==

When he was uploading his ''Sonichu'' comic pages to the [[CWCipedia]] in 2009, the thought of monetizing his web comic didn't cross his mind. People had been annoying – nay, ''harassing'' him with advertising he didn't approve of, yet when he attempted to replace these offensive ads with ads of his own, he simply put some random advertisements on his webpage ''without actually signing any sort of advertisement contract'' – the ads didn't make him any money. There are several advertising programs that allow individual people to put ads on their personal pages and make money out of them; some of these programs are even specifically geared toward webcomic artists. Many web comics have a donation box where readers can donate money to the artist via PayPal or similar services.

In [[2016]], Chris monetized his YouTube channel<ref>[[Chris and money#YouTube monetization]]</ref> and added a Support button<ref>[[Chris and money#YouTube Support button]]</ref> (ostensibly to accept donations for Sonichu projects, even though he didn't want to work on that, and for a year, YouTube simply became another place from which he could beg for money).

It took a while for Chris to try drawing on-camera in [[Live Drawing Streams]], and even then, he hasn't demonstrated it too often and has done an extremely poor job of it. He simply sits in front of his [[PS4]] camera, which is hard-coded to only record in flipped mirror mode, and is positioned so that viewers see an upside-down video set at a dizzying angle.

== Schedule slip ==
Most webcomics have a set schedule: some update weekly, some many times a week, some daily. Some webcomics update whenever the hell the artists get inspired enough to draw a comic, and probably reserve a whole forum for people who whine about lack of updates. Most webcomic artists that update the comic three times a week consider that schedule very demanding, and webcomics that update daily usually generate revenue of some sort (ads, donations, print versions, merchandise, what-have-you), allowing the artists treat their comics like a full-day job. These are called self-sufficient webcomics. (Examples: ''Penny Arcade'', ''xkcd'', ''Questionable Content''.)

Chris has thoroughly embraced the point of view that the comic shouldn't have a set schedule and inspiration doesn't have a deadline... while ''also'' promising us that the comic would be updated daily. On 14 [[November 2009]], Chris promised that the comic would be updated daily, and he managed to fulfill this promise for a while. By the end of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris was already placing author-substitutes in the story telling people to quit whining about the lack of updates. This is obviously not a question of punctuality, but [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrisy]]; Chris would avoid a lot of drama if he just admitted that there's no set schedule whatsoever after all. If one ''does'' consider this a question of punctuality, it doesn't look too good.

Chris also tends to update in spurts in an attempt to make up for missed days; this can range anywhere from three to twenty pages at a time. Most professional web cartoonists have a buffer of guest comics so that they can avoid this sort of thing, but the thought of doing so has apparently never entered Chris's [[Autism|autistic]] mind.

The same mindset also pervades every other aspect of his business, namely that Chris will procrastinate on shipping orders. A key example is how he almost fucked up the [[Sonic Totem]] sale - he received $1,500 for it, immediately wasted much of his profit on [[$400 gold necklace|bling]] and failed to ship it to the buyer on time, saying that he had run out of money to pay for mailing it, and only got around to having his mother scrounge up the cash to do so after the buyer filed a Paypal dispute. He also lost his Etsy shop as a direct result of his poor work ethic.

==Pipe dreams==

{{quote|----When Do You Want [[Nintendo]] and [[SEGA]] to Talk to Me to EVOLVE [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] more Realistically?----
NOW!!!|Chris, [[An Important Update|demanding that multinational corporations take orders from a nobody]]}}

Chris has had numerous aspirations to work in creative industries. So far, he has expressed his desire to make [[Sonichu (game)|several official ''Sonichu'' video games]], and work on a real [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]] for a real comic publisher. However, [[Chris and his Ego|for reasons best known to himself]], he elects not to find out how these industries actually work, which is quite strange; one would assume that a person seeking a career in the industries would at least take ''some'' effort to find out how the said industries work.

=== Official publication ===

In ''[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]'' and [[Chris's resume|Chris's résumé]], it's revealed that Chris is under the impression that his [[Chris and art|art]] isn't just good, but professional quality, and that he aspires to get into the comics and video game business. The résumé reveals his widely varied skills with both pens and crayons and his desire to work as an artist for a professional comic company such as [[Wikipedia:Archie Comics|Archie Comics]] or [[Wikipedia:Marvel Comics|Marvel]], creating his ''Sonichu'' comics. There is no word on whether or not he actually submitted anything to these companies, or if they replied.

Unfortunately for Chris, the publishing industry doesn't work this way, especially not in the case of "original" creations. In the case of original work, the publishers expect complete works to be submitted to them, usually through an agent. An agent's job is to separate the [[Asperchu|wheat]] from the [[Sonichu (comic)|chaff]] and find the correct publisher for the work, taking a small percentage of the eventual profit for their reward. If the publishers take unsolicited submissions, they have to sift through a gigantic backlog (often called "slushpile") of submissions of highly varying quality, most of which end up rejected multiple times before there will be a publisher with the right market in mind and the right publication schedule to allow the publication deal to go forward. The whole process can take years in case of a single work.

If comic book publishers have salaried artists, they usually need to have a portfolio of previous work, usually work that has already been published commercially, or (if the comic house is ''particularly'' lenient, and most big names aren't) there has to be evidence of a successfully self-published, high-quality comic. And even in this case, these artists usually only work on characters and plotlines that come from inside the house; it can take time before the artist is in any position to present their own ideas for comics, or use their own original characters. Even if he ''were'' able to stick in a company for a long time, he'd still need to improve his communication skills a lot. If the ''[[Sonichu Chronicles]]'' PowerPoint and various phone conversations are of any indication, he's unable to persuade his superiors that his ideas are worth working on.

In short, Chris is deluded if he thinks that any company will just pick him up and tell him to work on ''Sonichu'' comics.

Even if Chris does get in, there's also the problem with scheduling. Most comics are worked on far in advance, thus allowing for any changes concerning a book, such as plot problems, character availability changes or even cancellations. Even so, many of them maintain a certain schedule, either monthly or bi-monthly (sometimes quarterly). Very rarely do comics go bi-weekly (one every two weeks), though weekly series have been more common, though infrequent. ([[Wikipedia:DC Comics|DC Comics]], for example, experimented with the weekly format in the [[1980s]] with ''[[Wikipedia:Action Comics#Action Comics Weekly|Action Comics Weekly]]'', an anthology which bombed and put the title on hiatus for a few months, returning it to its normal ''[[Wikipedia:Action Comics|Action Comics]]'' title and monthly format. Twenty years later, DC has churned out a number of weekly series, including ''[[Wikipedia:52 (comics)|52]]'', ''[[wikipedia:Countdown to Final Crisis|Countdown]]'', ''[[Wikipedia:Trinity (comic book)|Trinity]]'' and more recently ''[[wikipedia:The New 52: Future's End|The New 52: Future's End]]''.)

Chris, however, has no schedule. His schedule consists of "whenever he has the inspiration" to work. That doesn't cut it. If Chris went with that alone, he would have a release schedule that would rival [[Wikipedia:Rob Liefeld|Rob Liefeld]] and [[Wikipedia:Valve Time|Valve]]. And where Liefeld, for the most part, could get away with it because he owned his own company at one point (and people have gotten him to actually do the work), if Chris pulled this kind of stunt, he'd be out on the street so fast, his head would spin.

Chris's understanding of [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] is a chapter in itself. Publishers want primarily original works, because securing the necessary rights to publish derivative works is often difficult or impossible. Chris has even resisted attempts to educate him in this regard.<ref>[[Mailbag 29]]</ref>

On 14 [[August 2017]], Chris uploaded a [[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content|video]] where he updated the True and Loyal Fanbase on his progress on ''Sonichu'' #13, which he has re-numbered as ''Sonichu'' #12-9. He states that he decided to change the focus of the comic. Instead of being a crossover between the Sonichu gang and the [[Planet Dolan]] crew, it would instead be a fanfiction devoted to his pony avatar, [[Night Star]]. Throughout the video, he mentions how he not only wants the comic to be a piece of fanfiction, [[Chris and reality|but how he also wants it to be canon to ''My Little Pony'', where he himself would voice Night Star]]. Of course, Chris doesn't seem to realize that the creators of the show can't just simply pick up his idea because, as stated earlier, it may lead to an accusation of idea theft.

Yet another reason why the publishing industry wouldn't accept Sonichu in its current state is because of how [[Chris and writing|sloppily written]] and [[Chris and his ego|egocentric it is in tone]]. If a publisher somehow ''did'' agree to make Sonichu comics, they would more likely task other writers (not to mention artists) with actual talents to shape up the premise into something at least passable. Predictably enough, Chris would balk at lacking control over his life's work (and of course, anyone doing better than him).

===Games and merchandise===
Chris could approach [[Sega]] and [[Nintendo]] and ask them to make ''Sonichu'' games, comics and merchandise. This plan would also be doomed to failure, because no media companies want unsolicited ideas from the public. There are several reasons for this.

First, it takes effort to sift through idea piles and they can't give an equal amount of thought on the countless ideas fans send them. While game companies may listen to their fans, they usually just want to know if the time is ripe for something they've been planning to do. (For example, no doubt a big part of the reason why the newer ''[[Wikipedia:Fire Emblem|Fire Emblem]]'' games got worldwide release was that the fans of [[Wikipedia:Marth (Fire Emblem)|Marth]] and [[Wikipedia:List of Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi characters#Roy|Roy]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Super Smash Bros. Melee|Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' were wondering aloud "why the hell isn't [[Nintendo]] releasing these games outside of Japan?") They most certainly don't have the capability of starting a whole new game project just because someone asks. If the game companies respond by saying Chris had, as he himself so [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|eloquently put]], "rocks in his head", then you probably don't get a slice of their precious time for making a second impression. Simply put, Chris thinks that even when the companies aren't busy with other projects, they still have time to think of ''his'' grandiose ideas ''and those things only''.

Second, there is an age-old problem in a litigious society: A fan writes to the company and says "I have this cool idea", the company says "thanks, but no thanks", one of the in-house writers comes up with exactly the same idea by accident, and boom, you have a fan who's suing you for idea theft, and even if that lawsuit will usually go nowhere, it wastes perfectly usable time, energy and most of all ''money'' that could be used for more fruitful ventures. A famous example is British novelist [[Wikipedia:Terry Pratchett|Terry Pratchett]], who used to post in his Usenet fan group until one of the fans was convinced Terry had stolen his ideas.

Therefore, most media houses will just say they will not take any ideas from the public. The game industry is not an exception. This fact has been pointed out to Chris numerous times (and at least twice by real Nintendo representatives, as evidenced by the letters he has read in the Captain's Logs<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 15th, 2008]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009]]</ref>). Unfortunately, Chris misinterpreted all this.

Another thing that Chris disregards is the fact that writing games take a lot of effort. In [[Wikipedia:Thomas Edison|Thomas Edison]]'s words, getting things done is "1% inspiration and 99% perspiration." Many good ideas don't get implemented. No one is going to invest energy in developing an idea alone if they don't know if the idea can be implemented. Game companies may be willing to negotiate a deal to use their properties (such as characters) in games developed by third parties, but those proposals are usually backed up by real companies, actual creative teams of developers, and serious, complete plans for games, if not outright working prototypes already. Even in the case the properties are tacked on the prototype later on, the prototypes are usually fully developed so that they can be used ''without'' those properties if the plans fall through. (Example: ''[[Wikipedia:Star Fox Adventures|Star Fox Adventures]]'' began as a game that was completely unrelated to Star Fox universe, but Nintendo felt the game was better with SF characters.)

Surprisingly, in the [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine]], then high schooler-aged Chris offered a (slightly) better description of how the three fictional Sonic game releases he hoped for would play out than his proposals for Sonichu games later on and even then, they're highly basic and unoriginal ideas (e.g. ''Super Mario 64'' with Sonic the Hedgehog as its playable character and ''Super Mario All-Stars'' with the four classic ''Sonic'' games originally for Sega Genesis).

Theoretically, it would be possible, though extraordinarily unlikely, for Sega and Nintendo to cooperate enough to make a game featuring a Sonic/Pikachu hybrid named Sonichu. They would not, however, need any input from Chris, or even his permission, to combine characters that ''they'' own. Think about it. Of course, the idea of releasing it cross-platform for ''Sony consoles'' remains yet another absurd and fevered dream on the part of Chris.

In the Sonichu Chronicles he gives [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] "permission" to use the cover to his [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|hand-drawn ''Nintendo Power'' magazine]] as the inevitable cover for when his game is created, even though it's several years old (and, in fact, even ''worse'' than Chris's current skill at art).

To the surprise of no one, Chris has held onto dreams of Sonichu getting turned into a video game character well into [[November 2023]], when he posted a request to "personally" work with [[Nintendo]], offering them his OCs to be integrated into Pokémon canon<ref>[[November 2023 social media posts#Offering to work with Nintendo]]</ref>. Equally unsurprising is that Chris seems to be unaware (willfully or otherwise) that Nintendo has nothing to gain by granting fans' (ludicrous) desires for all the reasons mentioned here.

===In general===
An issue Chris would face in the industries he aspired to contribute towards is that mainstream publishers will not allow ''any'' pornographic material ([[Sonichu 8|which Chris had nonchalantly drawn into his supposedly kid-friendly comic]]), thus Chris would be forced to comply with a set of rules to make his magnum opus acceptable for the masses, and we all know how ''that'' would turn out.

By a similar token, both Nintendo and Sega would probably not allow [[Sonichu 10|the extreme violent]] [[Sonichu 8|and sexual imagery]] the comic didn't shy away from, especially since he considers Sonichu appropriate for kids (although he did imagine his [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles| Adult Chronicles]] to be rated M for [[Honest Content]]). And that's if they didn't reject it outright ''because of'' said imagery, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|not to mention Chris had drawn smut of his magnum opus himself in the past]] which could make a bad first impression on any reputable company approached to work with him.

Not to mention that Chris, being the egotist we know and love, would have to essentially hand over the rights for Sonichu to whichever company agrees to own his IP, meaning he would have no little to no say in how it plays out according to his whims.

If Chris actually ''were'' in a position of creative control, consider this; during the majority of time the [[CWCipedia]] was online, Chris acted as if he had free reign to dictate a site ''others made and hosted for him'', so letting him be head honcho of a comic or game production would be a colossal mistake. Needless to say, the [[Chris and stress|stress]] of working under him would lead some unfortunate writers/developers to quit and/or the higher-ups to [[Wendy's|eventually fire him]].

==The future of Chris and his business attempts==
After [[Affair With Mother|the life-changing incest scandal in the mid-summer of 2021]],[[Praetor]] successfully continued business with Chris, selling drawings he had made during incarceration and, since his release from jail, a further run of [[Medallions]] and other assorted junk, as well as setting up livestreams. As mentioned in the intro, these business ventures seem to be providing a steady stream of income for Chris, so much so that he was able to sink his [[Monthly tugboat|tugboat]] and finally become "employed" again.

== See also ==
* [[Chris and copyright]]
* [[Chris and work]]
* [[Chris's resume]]
* [[DStecks]], a person who gave Chris $1,000 for more Sonichu pages.
* [[An Important Update]]
* ''[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]'', Chris's not-very-creative-pitch-like PowerPoint presentation
* [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]], in which Chris likewise fails to sell a project idea
* [[Sonichu (game)|''Sonichu'' (game)]]

== References ==
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[[File:Cwcshutup.png|thumb|Chris's response to literally any commercial.]]
{{quote|I'd call a tow truck, but now I have less than $20 between the bank accounts and PayPal.|Chris, after his car broke down on the way home from BronyCon.<ref>[[Waiting for the tow truck]]</ref>}}

{{quote|He's [[Mathematics|not good at math]] when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>}}

[[Chris]] has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others<ref>[[:File:Piss_and_burn_fb.PNG]]</ref> to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Honor roll|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.

As of [[November 2016]], Chris lists the dumbest thing he's ever spent money on as the $11 cake he ruined in [[Cakefarts]].<ref>[[Reddit#Dumbest thing ever spent money on (15 November 2016)]]</ref>

==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==
:''Further reading: [[Chris and work]]''
For the vast majority of Chris's "adult" life, his only source of income has been the "[[tugboat]]" that he received from the U.S. federal government every month. In 2009, the payout was $809 a month, placing his annual income at $9,708. After Bob's death, Chris was given a survivor's benefit – increasing the amount to $1,300 per month and making his annual income $15,600. Barb's income, from Social Security and a pension, is around $1,200 per month or $14,400 per year.<ref>https://archive.md/DLyOa</ref> As of 2023, it is very likely that he has ''stopped'' recieving his tugboat, as his [[OfficialCWCmart|Etsy venture]] (along with all of his other joint ventures with Praetor) is making much more than the monthly income limit set by the SSA.<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oWEK9Boyzt70RIvhwv3R1jLgK5hl2VCsH6uH2RADfVI/edit?gid=0#gid=0</ref>

Chris's parents originally took $450 to pay for room and board;<ref name="Miyamoto" /> this payment was later increased to $565, and then to $580, after Bob paid off Chris's enormous credit card debt.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#8 December]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 8]]</ref> The rest of the tugboat generally went towards [[List of Chris's games|video games]], [[McDonald's|junk food]], or [[sex toys|other frivolous purchases]]. However, $229 per month (about $7.50 per day) was (and is) nowhere near enough to satisfy Chris's need for electronic entertainment, pornography, [[PlayStation Network]] downloads, a constant supply of [[McDonald's|Chicken McNuggets]], gallons of [[Coke]], and, since the summer of [[2009]], [[alcohol]]. As of [[January 2010]], he owed roughly $3,500 in credit card debt, some on cards of his own and some on cards he stole from his parents. Indeed, according to one of his bank statements,<ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010.jpg]]</ref><ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg]]</ref> at the end of one month he had fewer than $3 left in his account. Even more, just by straight spending and no other extra income, he put himself $452.57 in the red. How much he got to keep later on isn't known.

{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. Yet with my impuslive [sic] shoppiness [sic] (mostly controable [sic]), I end up spending my side-money after I get it.|Chris, [[Chris and His Ego|completely deluded and taking pride in being a lazy bastard]].<ref name="Miyamoto">[[Miyamoto Saga]]</ref>}}

===Chris and impulse spending===
It's obvious that Chris has no grasp on the real value of money, since he actively wastes as much of his monthly tugboat as possible on frivolous things like [[The Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[List of Chris's video games|video games]], [[alcohol]], [[Kaka Makeup Basics|make-up]], [[Lego|toys]], [[Mia Hamm|prostitutes]] and weekly lottery tickets.<ref name=J12>[[Jackie E-mails 12]]</ref>

Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer.<ref name="Miyamoto" /> His [[PlayStation Network]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' single [[PlayStation 3]] game that he's ever purchased, and even for ''games he doesn't own'', and he also further promoted his [[Chris and brand loyalty|Sony fanboyism]] by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely cost about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris bought his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores. Usually, children are taught the value of money at a very young age – not in Chris's case, apparently.

In [[September 2013]], Chris complained about he and his mom going through "emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By", making it clear that the family income dipped after Bob's passing. However, these supposedly lean times were apparently not enough to motivate Chris to get a job, or even to stop buying games, as evidenced by him racking up over $1,000 in game purchases on ''The Simpsons: Tapped Out''.<ref>[[Chris's spending on iPhone games]]</ref>

Throughout the summer of 2014, Chris continued to spend thousands of dollars on [[Lego]] and other frivolities, all while whining and complaining on Facebook about the family's poor finances. Chris financed this spending primarily with money from selling custom arts and crafts on his eBay account. Offering free shipping to customers, Chris would receive money from customers, and then pay for shipping out of his own pocket. However, Chris would immediately spend money as soon as it was deposited into his account, often leaving him unable to ship products to customers who had already paid him because of his own financial irresponsibility and negligence.

When several of Chris's eBay customers filed complaints against him because Chris failed to ship a order as promised and obligated, Chris responded by harassing and trolling the customers, posting their personal information in a public post on his Facebook account. In light of this, you would think most prospective future customers probably wouldn't want to risk being harassed or scammed by Chris. Unfortunately, many more still purchase from Chris on a daily basis.

All the while, even as Chris's credit card debt continued to spiral out of control, Chris continued to buy thousands of dollars of video games, Lego, and other frivolities. As if this were not bad enough, just days after putting his and Barb's cars up for sale (at exorbitant prices), Chris went out and bought a 2010 Ford Focus, stating on Facebook that he had been approved for a loan, probably at a high interest rate. He also stated that paying for insurance on his new car was "killing" him, implying that either the insurance payment was costly, that he was having trouble paying it, or both.

In January 2015, it was [[CWCki Forums|leaked]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, racking up '''585''' transactions in the last 4.5 years,<ref>https://archive.md/zibG2</ref> a list which includes useless shovelware, hoards of 1st-party Nintendo software, Virtual Console games and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he doesn't even like]]. 276 of these purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (buying '''4''' DSs and DSis), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind 39% of purchases Chris has on his account are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high number. This information comes on the heels of Chris begging people for money to fix his mother's cavities, as well as the financial worries that his trials will undoubtedly cause.

In [[July 2016]], a field agent provided the following account of Chris, in a painfully awkward situation where he did not have enough cash to pay for his junk food at a gas station:<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Short on Cash]]</ref>

{{quotebox|My friend walks into a gas station/convenience store on the northern edge of Charlottesville.
Chris is trying to buy $7 or so of junk food type stuff, but he only has $5 in cash.
The cashier tries to make understand he owes $2 more. Chris seems to understand, but is slow to process what to do about it.
My friend who is second in line, picks out two ones, says "here you go" and puts them on the counter.
Chris, it seems more out of stupidity and confusion than malice, picks up the $2 and his purchases and makes to leave.
My friend and the cashier, both object and yell that he has to leave the $2 with the cashier.
Chris doesn't seem to react.
A dude who was behind both of them in line is between Chris and the door. As Chris passes him, he taps him to get his attention, and says something like "Hey buddy ..."
Chris makes a get-away-from-me hand wavy gesture without looking at any of the three of them, and fairly loudly says "It's Miss!" and hurries out the door.
Chris continues to his car in a half run, half walk, as all three of the people in the store watch confused and amused.
Chris pulls out of the parking spot, but for some reason heads towards the back of the lot, where there is no exit.
As Chris gets to the back of the lot, he stops, backs up a few feet, tries to turn the car around, doesn't make it, backs up again, and finally gets around. Essentially making a 5 point turn in a fairly large empty parking lot.
Chris drives past the store again not looking inside, and finally drives off.}}

One dreads to imagine how his financial incompetence will affect him once Barb is dead - knowing Chris, and while it is quite tragic, he'll probably continue in his destructive spending patterns until he loses everything he has, and even then, he'll [[Ego|learn nothing]].

===Chris's parental enabling===
If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.

A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that [[Chris and remorse|Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else)]] by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about "$6 a day for small things", buying him [[List of restaurants|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Get-Tar Region|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[Autism|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.

===Fan funding===
{{main|List of Chris's financial enablers}}

===Chris's beliefs===
[[File:Chris's economic theories.jpeg|thumb|right|A meme explaining why Chris doesn't get capitalism or government.]]
Chris believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless junk, he is aiding the economy and paying for other people's tugboats.<ref>[[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever]]</ref> This is a [[Honor roll|damningly moronic conviction]], since sales tax goes to the state government and these "tugboats" are paid with ''federal'' payroll tax. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.

Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Chris and his Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond. While Chris mocked [[Lars]]’s habit of buying and collecting [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|model boats and addons for them]] after learning about it from [[Jackie]], he failed to realise that Lars’s supposed habit was directly parodying his obsessive purchasing and hoarding of video games and DLC, even for games that he didn’t own. His mother has served as a bad influence regarding Chris’s beliefs in material goods, as she would frequently shop at Goodwill and compulsively hoard the purchases, which both wasted money and helped turn their house into a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire hazard]].

On 16 [[May 2019]], Chris tweeted a screenshot of an NBC story about how "Ex-EPA chief Scott Pruitt spent nearly $124,000 on 'excessive airfare'." Chris then showed off his complex views on the U.S. economy by saying... {{quotebox|Hey, Everyone. Here’s a Think Piece: firstly, if people didn’t overspend so much, then there would be more money to give to charities around the world. And then that brought to mind that if things had not gone up in price (I Know About Inflation and that More Money has been officially printed and distributed over the decades), there would be more to freely give to those unfortunate. “Why, Back in the day, we used to pay a Nickel for a Hershey Bar. A Nickle [sic]! Now, it’s a dollar, dollar-fiddy; we could be using that $1.45 to feed the hungry everywhere. But, Everyone got greedy for the green and don’t appreciate it as much. A Nickel.” Yep, Grandpa, people have done goofed with inflation and crap. 😔}}<ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris has complex economic views]]</ref>

===After the house fire===
On [[10 January 2014]], 14 Branchland Court burned down. This would undoubtedly place the Chandlers in grim circumstances, due to the costs of rebuilding the home and replacing what was lost. Some of his fans pooled their funds to send him a care package, with a money order for $500.<ref>[[Destruction Of Chris's House#Aftermath and reaction]]</ref>

Many, concerned about Chris due to his wasteful spending habits, hoped that this would be the moment in Chris's life where he finally woke up and realized the importance of having a rainy day fund. Unfortunately, not even ''that'' has broken Chris's thick skull; throughout 2014, he wasted '''$5,000''' on ''Lego sets''.<ref>[[Lego#Addiction and Financial Ruin]]</ref><ref>[[May 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

==Barb's toxic influence==
According to a troll with insider info, Chris was able to manage his own finances to a rudimentary degree, even after Bob passed away,<ref>https://archive.md/jt1fU</ref> although he still has an issue with not saving money for [[2014 house fire|potential emergencies]].

The troll also asserted that Chris's financial hardships are caused, in most part, by [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] helping herself to Chris's monetary accounts in order to attempt paying her out-of-control debts.<ref>https://archive.md/jt1fU</ref>

{{quotebox|Barb is the one who has serious debt. She fucks up Chris' budgeting by erratically taking money from Chris' account when she needs it, generally without warning.

There are two types of Chris begging videos. One is when Chris wants a bit extra for some legos. You can identify those videos by how vague Chris' requests are, and how relaxed Chris is in the video. Chris isn't in meltdown mode in those videos.

Now, the other type of video is when Barb tried to snatch some money from Chris and Chris doesn't have anything for her. You can identify those videos by how freaked out Chris looks. He's visibly distressed and he's citing specific bills he's got to pay, usually things that seem un-Chris-like. That's when Barb is freaking out at him for not having enough money to pay her debts.

The thing is, the perception is that Chris is bad with money. He's not bad with money (as far as monthly budgeting goes). Despite how foggy Chris' head is, he's got enough memory to recognize patterns in bills over the course of a few months. He knows he's gotta pay electricity bills and rent and things like that. And he does do the math each month about what bills he's got to pay, and how much that leaves him for Legos and food. You can't trust his begging. He begs because he wants more money, not because he's in any financial straits (that is, not including Barb).

He lives cheaply as shit. He saves money by buying dollar store shit. He's the type of person to buy single ply toilet paper at the dollar store. But sometimes he'll splurge and treat himself to things, like alcohol. He does this all while meeting his obligations, like his minimum payments and his bills.}}

Information from Cousin Al<ref>[[Catherine#The bowling outing]]</ref> revealed that Chris and Barb '''had''' an inheritance from Bob worth "tens of thousands of dollars". However, Barb spent all of it on hiring Rob Bell to defend herself (...and Chris) from legal charges incurred after [[28 October 2011|the two of them hit Michael Snyder with a car]]. It should be noted that a state-provided attorney would have been free and yielded the same result (pleading guilty), for the case was so cut-and-dry that even a lawyer of Bell's caliber had no chance of winning it.

In November 2014, Chris revealed to Renee that Barb was borrowing money from his life insurance.<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Barb is borrowing from Chris's life insurance]]</ref>

Although [[Null_DMs#Chris_takes_money_from_Barb|in a Kiwi Farms post]], in the wake of the bombshell that [[Affair with Mother|Chris had been in a sexual relationship with Barb]], [[Null]] revealed that Chris nonchalantly stated in their final conversation with each other that ''he'' had control of her bank account by then (which allowed him to swipe $750). That said, it's unknown whether or not Barb actually used to exploit his finances before the roles eventually switched at some point (not to mention, if so, ''when'').

===Bank lawsuits against Barb===
In 2016, two banks, Discovery and Capital One, sued Barb for not paying '''over $20,000 total''' in debts, leaving the Chandlers ''even further'' in financial turmoil.

Barb herself appeared in multiple videos in 2016-17, trying to [[Chris and manipulation|scam people]] into donating to her.

*[[Donations Required, Serious. Please help]]
*[[Donations Requested, Please]]
*[[Donations Further Requested, Please]]
*[[EMERGENCY HOME UPDATE]]

In the first two videos, Barb claimed not to have enough money for asthma medication, and in the third, she claimed to need money for dental work.

If Barb actually needed money for an emergency, she could simply have instructed Chris to sell some of their possessions. In the videos, Chris's toys and Barb's hoard are clearly visible behind them.

==Debt==
{{main|Debt}}
==Subscription services==
Chris has been subscribed to various services over the years. These include Clip Studio,<ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Chris gets an iPad]]</ref> Crystal Council,<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Crystal Council]]</ref> Disney+,<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2019)#Priorities]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#The Avatar State]]</ref> HBO Max,<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Vaughn, HBO Max, and Sockness]]</ref> [[Patreon]], and Tokyo Treat.<ref>[[October 2017 tweets#Tokyo Treat]]</ref><ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris Spends More Money]]</ref><ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Tentacle grape]]</ref>

==Money-Making Schemes==
===Wheeling and Dealing===
Also known as {{w|return fraud}}. In 2010, Chris described buying video games from one store for a lower cost, then exchanging them for a higher amount of store credit at another store.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 15]]</ref>

===Lottery===
Chris considers the lottery to be ''an investment'', and not a form of gambling in reality. In September 2010, he told Jackie the following:<ref name=J12/>

{{quotebox|I invest $4 weekly between Win For Life and Mega Millions; two plays each.}}

Cash4Life and Mega Millions currently costs $2 per play (as of 29 March 2021),<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210329061252/https://www.valottery.com/data/draw-games/megamillions Mega Millions] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20210329061444/https://www.valottery.com/data/draw-games/cash4life Win For Life] descriptions on the official site of Virginia Lottery, accessed 29 March 2021.</ref> meaning that if Chris stopped playing the lottery, he would save around $416 per year.

===Craigslist===
[[File:Chris chan bmw.jpg|thumb|right|The Craigslist ad.]]
{{main|Craigslist}}
In late [[October 2011]], Chris posted a Craigslist ad for a 12-year-old 32" CRT television and expected a non-negotiable $250 for it;<ref>[[Craigslist#Television]]</ref> in reality, this is about the price of a new flatscreen HDTV of that size, and he would be lucky to get a tenth of his asking price.

Chris placed two cars for sale on Craigslist in September 2014. One was a dilapidated, rusty 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block that hadn't run in over a year. Despite having a market value (as scrap) of approximately $150, Chris demanded $5,000 for the automobile, insisting that the cracked engine block made the car a great [[Chris and reality|"fixer upper."]] Chris also placed his mother's BMW z3 for sale. The 1999 BMW z3 is currently listed on the Roanoke Craigslist for $10,000 OBO. Kelley Blue Book estimates the car with 70,000 miles and in a fair condition is worth $4,318. Chris describes the car as "Mint condition Z3 model. Like a go-cart with rocket power. Seriously fun to drive 5 speed and pure joy with the top down. Color is jet black."

===Pawn shops===
{{main|List of Chris's video games#Chris (barely) lets go}}

Chris occasionally visits pawn shops or similar businesses, among them Snooky's Pawn Shop, [[GameStop]] and Plan 9 Music, to sell his old toys and video games so that he can afford new ones.

===eBay===
{{main|eBay}}
Chris has long used eBay to sell bits of his toy hoard. He doesn’t put much effort into researching prices, and often lists items at vastly inflated prices. In August 2016, he listed a used VHS of ''Aladdin'' with a 'Buy it Now' price of '''$3,000'''. There were no (legitimate) takers, probably because one can buy the same edition on Amazon for ''one penny'' (plus shipping, but still).

In June 2019, Chris’s account [[EBay#Suspension_of_Chris's_eBay|was restricted]], and all of the active listings were removed. Two reasons for the restriction against Chris are possible: either his seller approval rating was abysmal (84.7% on 21 June 2019),<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190621113537/https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=pristinechristine1982&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&rt=nc Wayback Machine’s snapshot] of pristinechristine1982’s eBay feedback, archived and accessed 21 June 2019.</ref> or that his PayPal account was in the red.

===CWCville Shopping===
{{main|Chris and business}}
From 2014-2016, Chris sold custom arts and crafts, finally monetizing Sonichu, through [[eBay]], [[Etsy]] and [[Lulu]], before losing his business due to [[PS4|stress]].

===Kickstarter===
{{main|Kickstarter}}
On 23 September 2014, Chris opened a Kickstarter project, asking for $5,000 to build the CWCville shopping mall out of LEGO. At the end of the campaign, Chris raised just $150 from 27 backers, causing the campaign to fail and Chris never seeing the money.

===YouTube monetization===
Chris has monetized most of the videos which appear on his YouTube channel, as another way of [[Etsy|profiting]] from his internet infamy. As further proof of Chris's entitlement issues, [[CatKnight Interview|Arthur Spatchcock]] discovered that at one point around [[March 2016]], Chris received $80 and was "pissed" that he hadn't gotten more.<ref>https://archive.md/pJZj4</ref>

{{quotebox|This is going to become a pattern. Chris is going to do one of his 'Let's Plays' followed by an e-begging video and then polish it off by purchasing some dumb thing he doesn't need in excess of fifty bucks. He knows how this system works and it's the greatest amount of payoff with the least amount of work; the first time when Chris played Destiny he made 80$ from Youtube(And was surprisingly pissed it was that small, fuck that, I want eighty bucks from Youtube). Then he makes a video whining about how he needs more money and lo and behold, he gets even more~! If anything people are contributing to his float and that convinces him he can get away with being frivolous that much more. }}

Social Blade estimates that as of 12 December 2019, Chris could earn between $245 and $3,900 per year,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191212192942/https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/cwcvilleguardian Social Blade]</ref> but there are many factors, such as Content ID claims, that make it very difficult to estimate the true value of any YouTube channel.

===Let’s Plays===
In [[March 2016]], [[CatKnight Interview|Arthur Spatchcock]] introduced Chris to the idea of doing Let's Plays to boost his online activity and help him gain some money through YouTube's monetization program<ref>https://archive.md/e0D8M</ref><ref>https://archive.md/pJZj4</ref>. The plan fell apart after Let's Plays of ''[[CWC's Destiny start|Destiny]]'' and ''[[Live Game Stream - Uncharted|Uncharted]]'', since by that point, Chris was [[Chris and Health|too lazy]] to play video games for money, and he simply wanted to [[Financhu Crisis|beg from his audience]] instead.

===YouTube Support button===
On 23 May 2016, Chris [[Live Game Stream - Uncharted|announced]] the debut of a Support button on his YouTube channel to replace the Etsy donation listing (which was forcibly removed due to it violating Etsy's TOS). He apparently got this idea from [[William Elliott Waterman]].<ref>[[https://archive.md/2ksJJ]]</ref>

===Paypal.me===
Announced on 11 [[May 2017]].

{{quotebox|Cwcville Shopping I am the original creator of Sonichu and Rosechu, with more than eleven comic books worth of content under my helm. Please donate to help me quell my financial problems that quell my creativity. Ruckersville, VA}}

===Prostitution===
On 19 June 2016, aka Father’s Day, Chris decided to become [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|a prostitute]].

He has yet to receive any takers.

===Begging===
{{main|Financhu Crisis}}
[[File:Please, Donate (720p).mp400001.png|thumb|Chris, proving he has zero self-awareness]]
One of the earliest instances of Chris e-begging for money was in [[9 December 2009|December of 2009]]. Chris exhorted his alleged European [[Trolls|fanbase]] to donate €1,000 in order to remove troll ads from the CWCipedia.

In 2014, after his house [[Destruction Of Chris's House|caught fire]], Chris again resorted to e-begging for money, placing extra emphasis on ''"My mother and I really need the money,"'' despite dropping more than '''$5,000''' on expensive [[Lego]] sets to feed his worsening addiction. One would think that Chris would have wised up to the fact that his wanton spending and lack of gainful employment are contributing to his woes, but one glance at his [[May 2014 Facebook Posts]] could easily tell you that he's seeing his situation as an avenue to get stuff from people, the most ridiculous of which being a "$300 Sea Cow" on his wish list, which would not benefit anybody but himself in the slightest.

In 2016, Chris's e-begging drastically increased, as a result of the Chandlers' stubborn refusal to live within their means. That year saw Chris spend over $1,000 on toys, while both Chris and Barb had court cases resolved which penalized them with steep costs. In addition, Barb joined in to the begging, appearing in three videos so far.<ref>[[Donations Required, Serious. Please help]]</ref><ref>[[Donations Requested, Please]]</ref><ref>[[Donations Further Requested, Please]]</ref>

He asked for donations, or at least mentioned them, in many of the posts and videos he made in 2015 through 2016. At first, this was supposedly to fund his production of Sonichu merchandise, but he later shifted to saying that he and Barb needed help with paying the bills and buying groceries. While it's entirely possible that Chris was simply lying to get more money for [[Lego|useless]] [[Video games|crap]], this indicates that the financial hardships, which [[White knights|many]] [[Trolls|people]] have warned him about, have finally arrived. Only time will tell how his financial situation ultimately plays out, but given his attitude and inaction, the future definitely doesn't seem bright.

=== Theft ===
[[File:BoA alert 1 Aug 2021.png|thumb|Null leaks a screenshot of Chris's bank notifying him he has $1.03 left in his account.]]

Chris has a history of indulging in five-finger discounts that he attempts to keep secret from prying eyes. As far back as 2009, if not before, Chris would steal increasingly larger sums of money from his mother's purse for personal use, and use both of his parents' credit cards to finance his gaming addiction as revealed by the [[Ivy Q&A]]. Despite Chris insisting that this behaviour was 'in the past', he would engage in it with apparent reckless abandon regardless, stopping only when forced to after Barb discovered just how much he had purloined. Years later, Chris would rob his mother again - [[Affair with Mother|in much darker and far more damning circumstances]].

On 30 [[July 2021]], after Chris was served an [[Emergency Protective Order]] temporarily forbidding him from his home, he stole $750 from Barb's bank account. Some of this money was spent immediately - Chris' bank account was 200 dollars in debt. Much of what remained was spent on lodging in [[Regency Inn Richmond]], and the leftover money was swiftly spent on what can be assumed to be assorted frivolities and food. ''Two days'' after this money was withdrawn, [[Null]] - who at that point could still view the emails from Chris's bank - posted an image of a low balance notice from Chris's Bank of America account on the [[Kiwi Farms]], confirming that Chris had $1.03 remaining in his account.

In a letter he relayed to Null a couple of months later, he claims to have sent his $150 Patreon payout back to Barb, as compensation for stealing the money.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

This is predictably a [[lie]] since not only did Chris's Patreon get shut down very quickly after the leaks were made, but even if it wasn't, Chris would be forced to wait until the next Monday due to their pay-out waiting period of 1-3 business days (something that Chris himself acknowledges in the same letter).

==In the comic==

[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|250px|[[CWCville]] currency.]]

{{quote| What the? What the fuck is a C-quarter? What the fuck is a W-quarter? [[Chris and writing|Nobody explained any of this to me!]]|Brendaniel upon discovering CWCville's weird currency <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECqdrsvDobY&list=PLpNAl5zLZSMUI3klvTpy2Xdqa7B9bim3h&index=36</ref>}}

In [[Sonichu (comic)|the ''Sonichu'' comics]], it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris in real life. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the [[United States of America|American]] populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two-story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|"paid" in average]] of US$3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].<ref>[[Mailbag 21#Home economics]]</ref>

While legislating as mayor of [[CWCville]], he equated 10 years in prison to a US$1,500 fine.<ref>[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref> He also equated fifty hours of {{w|community service}} to $500 (for any [[sex]]ual violations).<ref>[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]</ref>

In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19:_Date_Ed_.28Even_Though_the_Idea_Sounds_Dated.29|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually issues its own currency, in the form of C-Quarters and W-Quarters. Ten C-Quarters make up a W-Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word "quarter" means]]. (Our best guess: C-Quarters = US$0.25, W-Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in U.S. dollars: perhaps to bolster the dictatorship's foreign currency reserves, ''à la'' {{w|North Korea}}.

This makes even less sense considering [[CWCVille]] is part of the [[United States]]. States, let alone cities, cannot print their own money, despite holding considerable power over their own affairs. The Constitution expressly forbids anyone else other than the federal government from issuing currency. However, it has been somewhat common for companies, communities and local governments to issue localized currency known as 'scrip', a depression era practice still seen from time to time. [[Chris]] being Chris, and likely reading [[Goosebumps]] instead of paying attention in class likely is wholly unaware of this information.

On the [[CWCipedia]] article on Sonichu, Chris wrote that [[Rosechu]] is usually the one who cooks for her family, but when Sonichu cooks for his wife and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|kids]] he "will go as HIGH in portions as a Banquet", even though he only cooks for five individuals.<ref name=>[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Married Life and Children Sonichu]</ref> This suggest that Sonichu is just as frivolous with money as his father.

===Soup hotels===

Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American {{w|Social Security (United States)|Social Security}} system if he was left in charge of it in a text called "[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]." This is where the idea of "Soup Hotels" came from.

{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels.|Chris with a very bad idea.}}

Chris depicts "Soup Hotels" as buildings ten stories tall with between ten and twenty rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, beds, lighting and cable television.<ref>[[Mailbag 20#This still implies that CWCville has a massive homeless problem]]</ref> Of course, the homeless stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in [[CWCville]], there are around 1,500 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.

In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and a bevy of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that [[CWCville]] has had to open at least seven new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things. Or more tellingly, that the economy of CWCville is crashing to the ground, fast.

==In other works==
[[File:Kiwi Farms silver coin photo.jpg|thumb|200px|In 2021, Chris was placed ''on'' money, in the form of [[Kiwi Farms silver coin|a non-legal tender commemorative silver coin]] minted for the [[Kiwi Farms]], and featuring Chris's likeness for a 2021 merch run. These coins received additional attention following Chris's [[Affair with Mother|legal troubles]] that same year.]]
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chris Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, ''à-la'' the season premieres of {{w|24 (TV Series)|''24''}}. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.

In [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris loses his mind|Mailbag 29]] he stated that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp, pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free [[Dating education|Sex Ed classes]] for [[virgin]]s.

In real life, according to Chris, he tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. He said the prostitute then hung up on him.

Chris also proves us that, in the possibility of being part of a family, he wouldn't be the main purveyor. In the [[PlayingHouse]] video, his [[sweetheart]] of [[Jackie|the moment]] is portrayed as a successful journalist with high ambitions while he's a [[14 Branchland Court|stay at home]] Dad. Even then, he portrays himself doing "hard work" like [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|changing diapers]] and watching over the kids. In this last role, he's so incompetent that he needs to recruit his [[Crystal|preschool daughter]] to watch over [[Reginald Chandler|his son]] while he's shopping. This is paralleled by his real life situation - with [[Bob]] gone, one would assume that he'd be the "man of the house" and assume some responsibility for once. Unfortunately, as evidenced by his [[This is how the Trial went|admission in court,]] Barb is still pulling his ass out of any such concept by paying his court fees. Keep in mind that, by extension, Chris is being minded by an ailing woman's retirement money which was used to bail him out of a mess that ''he'' started, while he wastes his own money on meaningless frivolities.

==Post-Jail==
On 27 [[March 2023]], Chris would be released from jail by "[[Jail Saga#Bonded out or Released by court order|court order]]". In the months that followed, he would be [[Post-jail sightings (2023)|spotted]] numerous times in [[Mal-Wart|Wal-mart]] and various other stores purchasing frivolous items. Money obviously had to come from somewhere if he was able to purchase [[Chris and nutrition|junk food]], crystals, a [[Nintendo|Nintendo Switch]], and even another car.

There was speculation as to how Chris had the money to begin with.
*The group home Chris resided at may have given him an allowance for necessities.
*Money could have come from [[Praetor]]'s sales.
*If the tugboat was suspended, Chris may have reactivated it upon release, albeit with some help on account of his laziness.
*If the tugboat was not suspended, it may have accumulated during Chris's stay in jail, which could explain how he could afford expensive purchases such as gaming consoles and a car.

Either way, it seems Chris has not changed and continues his poor money management as he did before the arrest. It will only be a matter of time before he spends all his money and will resort to begging again.

==Conclusion==
Given Chris's longtime, carefree abandon when it comes to his spending habits, many are actually concerned as to what will happen to Chris when Barb passes on and he has to fend for himself. A past conversation with [[Clyde Cash]] revealed that he doesn't even know the basic expenses that go into running a household,<ref>[[Mumble_4]]</ref> and his plan of [[PlayingHouse|marrying a sweetheart to dump all of the financial responsibilities on her]] would have [[Sweetheart#Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?|never worked to begin with]].

Long story short, if Chris doesn't start saving for his future now, he won't have one to look forward to. And he'll have nobody to blame but himself. ''(Not that he won't try, of course.)''

==See also==
*[[Chris and business]]
*[[Chris and work]]
*[[COVID-19]]
*[[Financhu Crisis]]
*[[Lego]]
*[[Monthly tugboat]]

== References ==
<references/>

{{Chris and}}
{{Money}}

Monthly tugboat

2026-07-17T04:12:37Z

FullNameUnknown: Making some slight changes to make the article more consistent

{{taxpayermoney}}

{{quote|it's a [[Asperchu|fun story]]. anyway, you know the expression, "Our ship has come in," well that refers to a HUGE one-time amout of money, which can compare to a [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|Luxury Ship that can easily sink]]. and a Tugboat is more reliable, because even though it's smaller, it's built tougher, and it's usually better on time in that sense. so, I refer to my monthly income as a Tugboat, whereas I would refer to say winning the Lottery as a Luxary [sic] Ship. Chalk that idea up to a spot of [[Autism|creative thinking]]. :)|Chris's autistic explanation for his Tugboat<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 12]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Thetugboatposter.jpg|thumb|Tugboat, exciting and new! 
Come aboard, we're expecting you.]]

The '''monthly tugboat''' is [[Chris]]'s [[CWC-isms|euphemism]] for his {{w|Social Security Disability Insurance}} (SSDI) payment, which is (or was) deposited into his bank account via direct deposit on or about the 3rd of each month.<ref>http://ssa.gov/pubs/calendar.htm</ref> SSDI is a U.S. program to support financially those whose physical or [[Slow-in-the-minds|mental disability]] prevents them from holding a job. It is a form of insurance funded by payroll taxes. Workers who have paid into the system for a numbers of years can qualify to receive benefits if they, or their children, become disabled.<ref>[https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10026.pdf Benefits for Children with Disabilities], Page 7.</ref>

Since [[Bob Chandler]] paid into the program during his years at General Electric, Chris is entitled to receive benefits. As long as Chris earns less than $1670 a month of "Substantial Gainful Activity",<ref>[https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/sga.html Substantial Gainful Activity]</ref> and stays unmarried (to [[Polyamorous marriage|someone real]], at least) and [[Chris and the law|out of jail]], he will continue to receive his monthly tugboat unimpeded.

Chris is known to have belonged to this system since at least [[2007]], before he was [[Chris in the media#Something Awful|discovered]] by the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]], and until [[2023]], when he finally got a substantial income to be dropped by the SSA. In the [[Father Call]], Chris claimed that his disability check was "a stepping-stone in the right direction of [him] moving out." Given Chris's tendency to waste his free money on [[List of toys|frivolous junk]] rather than put it towards anything that might improve his life, he was probably just telling Matt what he thought he wanted to hear.

Contrary to popular belief, Chris's check is not a form of welfare and is not need-based, but is awarded on eligibility alone.

Chris is fortunate that the SSDI system allows him to receive benefits based on his father's history. Without it, he would have had to work a decade to qualify.<ref>[https://www.ssa.gov/planners/disability/dqualify10.html Social Security Benefits Planner: How You Qualify]</ref> Chris, on the other hand, has only been employed for six months (three at [[Wendy's]], three in a [[Cutco|pyramid scheme]]).

In [[2010]], Chris received $809 each month, with $580 going to his parents for room, board, and to pay toward his credit card debt.<ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 7|Jackie Chat #7]]</ref> After [[Death of Bob Chandler|his father's death]] in [[September 2011]], Chris's tugboat increased. As of [[2014]], Chris was receiving approximately $1300 a month in insurance money, of which [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] used $900 [[Financhu Crisis|to pay for her second mortage]].<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Correction to Reverse Mortgage Claim]]</ref>

While there is no concrete indication that Chris's tugboat has finally sailed away, it is most likely that Chris was pulled off of disability benefits when he was released from jail. The Social Security Administration bars people from recieving payment if they make more than $1,690 per month or have been working for more than 36 months.<ref>https://www.ssa.gov/disability/work</ref> In 2026, the revenue from his Etsy shop, [[OfficialCWCmart]], was estimated to be $151,371 after Etsy fees.<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oWEK9Boyzt70RIvhwv3R1jLgK5hl2VCsH6uH2RADfVI/edit?gid=0#gid=0</ref> While this number is a rough estimate, it is not his only source and income, so it is probably safe to conclude that Chris is no longer eligible for SSDI since at least 2023.

==Rationale==
[[Image:Monthly Tugboat.jpg|thumb|250px|What Chris believes a monthly tugboat is. Your tax dollars at work, gentlemen.]]
===Chris's economic logic===
Challenged by a correspondent in the [[Mailbag]], Chris claimed that he is not wasting taxpayer funds, because he is putting that money back into the economy and indirectly paying the tugboats of others. According to Chris's [[Chris and reality|logic]], by purchasing useless commercial goods, he is paying sales tax, which the government puts directly back into the hands of the needy.<ref>[[Mailbag 34|Mailbag #34]]</ref> This is irrefutably false; sales taxes go towards state and local governments, but SSDI is funded by ''federal'' '''''payroll''''' tax (FICA), which Chris has never contributed to for all but a few months of his life.

====The argument against Chris supporting the economy====

One can take into consideration that not all of Chris's benefits will stay in the U.S. economy. Chris spends quite a bit of his tugboat on imported products. For example, [[Nintendo]] and [[Sony]] are Japanese corporations, and Chris's beloved [[Lego]] is a product of Denmark. These companies do have U.S. bases, and a small amount of R&D occurs stateside (this is mostly true of Sony, which may as well be an honorary American business). But at the end of the day, most of it occurs overseas. Let's not forget that the majority of Chris's [[toys]], electronics, and other products were most likely made in some sweatshop in [[China]], though to be fair, much of the revenue from American-designed Chinese electronics is overhead for the engineers and company in general.

In short, a good chunk of the tugboat ends up overseas, so if anything, he's supporting the world economy and furthering globalization. He's far from being alone at that, seeing the complexity of supply chains and international media popularity, but a good chunk of what Chris doesn't spend on food is spent on foreign electronics and toys.

Ironically, if Chris bought a [[HEXBox]] earlier (instead of boycotting it until 2017), the majority of money spent on it and on many of its games would be put back into the U.S. economy, as Microsoft is headquartered in Redmond, Washington, which only receives a sliver of what Chris has spent on Nintendo games.

Chris arguably also did his part in funding industries that cost people in the long run, such as fast food.

==References by Chris==
[[File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's bank statement, showing a payment from SSDI on the 3rd of the month.]]
Chris does not even understand ''which program he is on''. In many emails<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie E-mails 25]]</ref><ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref><ref>[[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012]]</ref> and posts<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref><ref>[[December 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref> he mistakenly says that he receives {{w|Supplemental Security Income|SSI}}, which is a welfare program for the poor that has far tighter restrictions and a typically lower payout. A screenshot of his bank activity from December 2009<ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg]]</ref> indicates that he received a Social Security payment on the 3rd (SSI pays out on the 1st).<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20091208062418/https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/calendar.htm</ref>

* The earliest known use of the term "monthly tugboat" was in March [[2007]] in Chris's first e-mail to his half-brother [[Cole Smithey]]. When introducing himself, Chris says, "I'm getting by livin' with my folks and a monthly tugboat". He does not actually explain what a "monthly tugboat" is supposed to be.
* An [[Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007#Adam Stackhouse wins, Chris is a horrible cheater and likes Megan "so much"|e-mail to Megan]] from August 2007 recounts Chris's purchase of ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' with his latest tugboat check.
* During the [[Miyamoto Saga]], Chris claimed he was waiting for his tugboat (in an e-mail to "Miyamoto" himself, no less) to fix technical problems with his website.
* In [[Mumble 1|Mumble #1]], Chris mentions that he'll have to wait for his next tugboat to buy some new content for ''Ape Escape'' on the PSP.
* In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 4|BlueSpike PSN Chat #4]], Chris tells [[Julie]] that he can't make it to Ohio until his next tugboat comes in.
* Since late 2009, [[Chris]] seemed to have mostly given up the term "tugboat", possibly because of its extensive adoption by trolls in the [[Mumble]] chats, the [[Mailbag]], and elsewhere. In the [[Father Call]], he refers to it as his "monthly income", while in the [[Jackie e-mails]] he simply says he's on Social Security, although he did refer to it once as a "tugboat" in [[Mailbag 34|Mailbag #34]].
* The [[BlueSpike Skype Logs 12|BlueSpike Skype logs]], quoted at the top of the page shine a light on the origin of the term.
*In [[Jackie Chat 7]], he wrote about the reason he deserves SSDI:

{{quotebox|
[7:47 pm] CWC: Originally, I was given that blessing through [[Bob|my father]], on one theory of me NOT being able to do the basics of a job, which I have told you I disagree with fully. 
[7:48 pm] CWC: Yesterday, I have actually asked [[God]] the question, because all I was coming up with was having deserved it from my [[Stress|trials and tribulations]] in my life. 
[7:48 pm] CWC: God responded... 
[7:48 pm] CWC: He told me that he blessed me because he saw me as one of the appreciative and [[Chris and English|less richer]] people, so he gave me that blessing through the approval. 
[7:49 pm] [[Jackie|Jacklyn Romy]]: ??? 
[7:49 pm] CWC: And I also asked him about the Job situation; why have I not been able to get a job then? 
[7:49 pm] Jacklyn Romy: that doesnt make sense 
[7:49 pm] Jacklyn Romy: why would God approve you to rip off the government when there are people starving and dying on the streets who genuinely need help 
[7:50 pm] CWC: he told me that he felt I was not ready to tackle a job yet, but he will bless me with a job when he sees fit. 
[7:50 pm] CWC: I don't know. 
[7:50 pm] Jacklyn Romy: thats not my understanding of how God works
}}

{{quote|i mean, are you sure you heard him correctly? no one I know has EVER heard God tell them "hey, just sit back and do nothing, i'll hand you a job and money so you can just play games all day"|Jackie, destroying Chris with sound logic.}}



==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Autism]]
* [[Chris and money]]

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Monthly tugboat

2026-07-17T03:57:27Z

FullNameUnknown: CHRIS IS OFF THE TUGBOAT!

{{taxpayermoney}}

{{quote|it's a [[Asperchu|fun story]]. anyway, you know the expression, "Our ship has come in," well that refers to a HUGE one-time amout of money, which can compare to a [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|Luxury Ship that can easily sink]]. and a Tugboat is more reliable, because even though it's smaller, it's built tougher, and it's usually better on time in that sense. so, I refer to my monthly income as a Tugboat, whereas I would refer to say winning the Lottery as a Luxary [sic] Ship. Chalk that idea up to a spot of [[Autism|creative thinking]]. :)|Chris's autistic explanation for his Tugboat<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 12]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Thetugboatposter.jpg|thumb|Tugboat, exciting and new! 
Come aboard, we're expecting you.]]

The '''monthly tugboat''' is [[Chris]]'s [[CWC-isms|euphemism]] for his {{w|Social Security Disability Insurance}} (SSDI) payment, which is deposited into his bank account via direct deposit on or about the 3rd of each month.<ref>http://ssa.gov/pubs/calendar.htm</ref> SSDI is a U.S. program to support financially those whose physical or [[Slow-in-the-minds|mental disability]] prevents them from holding a job. It is a form of insurance funded by payroll taxes. Workers who have paid into the system for a numbers of years can qualify to receive benefits if they, or their children, become disabled.<ref>[https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10026.pdf Benefits for Children with Disabilities], Page 7.</ref>

Since [[Bob Chandler]] paid into the program during his years at General Electric, Chris is entitled to receive benefits. As long as Chris earns less than $1220 a month of "Substantial Gainful Activity",<ref>[https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/sga.html Substantial Gainful Activity]</ref> and stays unmarried (to [[Polyamorous marriage|someone real]], at least) and [[Chris and the law|out of jail]], he will continue to receive his monthly tugboat unimpeded.

Chris is known to have belonged to this system since at least [[2007]], before he was [[Chris in the media#Something Awful|discovered]] by the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]]. In the [[Father Call]], Chris claimed that his disability check was "a stepping-stone in the right direction of [him] moving out." Given Chris's tendency to waste his free money on [[List of toys|frivolous junk]] rather than put it towards anything that might improve his life, he was probably just telling Matt what he thought he wanted to hear.

Contrary to popular belief, Chris's check is not a form of welfare and is not need-based, but is awarded on eligibility alone.

Chris is fortunate that the SSDI system allows him to receive benefits based on his father's history. Without it, he would have had to work a decade to qualify.<ref>[https://www.ssa.gov/planners/disability/dqualify10.html Social Security Benefits Planner: How You Qualify]</ref> Chris, on the other hand, has only been employed for six months (three at [[Wendy's]], three in a [[Cutco|pyramid scheme]]).

In [[2010]], Chris received $809 each month, with $580 going to his parents for room, board, and to pay toward his credit card debt.<ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 7|Jackie Chat #7]]</ref> After [[Death of Bob Chandler|his father's death]] in [[September 2011]], Chris's tugboat increased. As of [[2014]], Chris was receiving approximately $1300 a month in insurance money, of which [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] used $900 [[Financhu Crisis|to pay for her second mortage]].<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Correction to Reverse Mortgage Claim]]</ref>

While there is no concrete indication that Chris's tugboat has finally sailed away, it is most likely that Chris was pulled off of disability benefits when he was released from jail. The Social Security Administration bars people from recieving payment if they make more than $1,690 per month or have been working for more than 36 months.<ref>https://www.ssa.gov/disability/work</ref> In 2026, the revenue from his Etsy shop, [[OfficialCWCmart]], was estimated to be $151,371 after Etsy fees.<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oWEK9Boyzt70RIvhwv3R1jLgK5hl2VCsH6uH2RADfVI/edit?gid=0#gid=0</ref> While this number is a rough estimate, it is probably safe to conclude that Chris is no longer eligible for SSDI since at least 2023.

==Rationale==
[[Image:Monthly Tugboat.jpg|thumb|250px|What Chris believes a monthly tugboat is. Your tax dollars at work, gentlemen.]]
===Chris's economic logic===
Challenged by a correspondent in the [[Mailbag]], Chris claimed that he is not wasting taxpayer funds, because he is putting that money back into the economy and indirectly paying the tugboats of others. According to Chris's [[Chris and reality|logic]], by purchasing useless commercial goods, he is paying sales tax, which the government puts directly back into the hands of the needy.<ref>[[Mailbag 34|Mailbag #34]]</ref> This is irrefutably false; sales taxes go towards state and local governments, but SSDI is funded by ''federal'' '''''payroll''''' tax (FICA), which Chris has never contributed to for all but a few months of his life.

====The argument against Chris supporting the economy====

One can take into consideration that not all of Chris's benefits will stay in the U.S. economy. Chris spends quite a bit of his tugboat on imported products. For example, [[Nintendo]] and [[Sony]] are Japanese corporations, and Chris's beloved [[Lego]] is a product of Denmark. These companies do have U.S. bases, and a small amount of R&D occurs stateside (this is mostly true of Sony, which may as well be an honorary American business). But at the end of the day, most of it occurs overseas. Let's not forget that the majority of Chris's [[toys]], electronics, and other products were most likely made in some sweatshop in [[China]], though to be fair, much of the revenue from American-designed Chinese electronics is overhead for the engineers and company in general.

In short, a good chunk of the tugboat ends up overseas, so if anything, he's supporting the world economy and furthering globalization. He's far from being alone at that, seeing the complexity of supply chains and international media popularity, but a good chunk of what Chris doesn't spend on food is spent on foreign electronics and toys.

Ironically, if Chris bought a [[HEXBox]] earlier (instead of boycotting it until 2017), the majority of money spent on it and on many of its games would be put back into the U.S. economy, as Microsoft is headquartered in Redmond, Washington, which only receives a sliver of what Chris has spent on Nintendo games.

Chris arguably also did his part in funding industries that cost people in the long run, such as fast food.

==References by Chris==
[[File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's bank statement, showing a payment from SSDI on the 3rd of the month.]]
Chris does not even understand ''which program he is on''. In many emails<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie E-mails 25]]</ref><ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]</ref><ref>[[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012]]</ref> and posts<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref><ref>[[December 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref> he mistakenly says that he receives {{w|Supplemental Security Income|SSI}}, which is a welfare program for the poor that has far tighter restrictions and a typically lower payout. A screenshot of his bank activity from December 2009<ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg]]</ref> indicates that he received a Social Security payment on the 3rd (SSI pays out on the 1st).<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20091208062418/https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/calendar.htm</ref>

* The earliest known use of the term "monthly tugboat" was in March [[2007]] in Chris's first e-mail to his half-brother [[Cole Smithey]]. When introducing himself, Chris says, "I'm getting by livin' with my folks and a monthly tugboat". He does not actually explain what a "monthly tugboat" is supposed to be.
* An [[Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007#Adam Stackhouse wins, Chris is a horrible cheater and likes Megan "so much"|e-mail to Megan]] from August 2007 recounts Chris's purchase of ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' with his latest tugboat check.
* During the [[Miyamoto Saga]], Chris claimed he was waiting for his tugboat (in an e-mail to "Miyamoto" himself, no less) to fix technical problems with his website.
* In [[Mumble 1|Mumble #1]], Chris mentions that he'll have to wait for his next tugboat to buy some new content for ''Ape Escape'' on the PSP.
* In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 4|BlueSpike PSN Chat #4]], Chris tells [[Julie]] that he can't make it to Ohio until his next tugboat comes in.
* Since late 2009, [[Chris]] seemed to have mostly given up the term "tugboat", possibly because of its extensive adoption by trolls in the [[Mumble]] chats, the [[Mailbag]], and elsewhere. In the [[Father Call]], he refers to it as his "monthly income", while in the [[Jackie e-mails]] he simply says he's on Social Security, although he did refer to it once as a "tugboat" in [[Mailbag 34|Mailbag #34]].
* The [[BlueSpike Skype Logs 12|BlueSpike Skype logs]], quoted at the top of the page shine a light on the origin of the term.
*In [[Jackie Chat 7]], he wrote about the reason he deserves SSDI:

{{quotebox|
[7:47 pm] CWC: Originally, I was given that blessing through [[Bob|my father]], on one theory of me NOT being able to do the basics of a job, which I have told you I disagree with fully. 
[7:48 pm] CWC: Yesterday, I have actually asked [[God]] the question, because all I was coming up with was having deserved it from my [[Stress|trials and tribulations]] in my life. 
[7:48 pm] CWC: God responded... 
[7:48 pm] CWC: He told me that he blessed me because he saw me as one of the appreciative and [[Chris and English|less richer]] people, so he gave me that blessing through the approval. 
[7:49 pm] [[Jackie|Jacklyn Romy]]: ??? 
[7:49 pm] CWC: And I also asked him about the Job situation; why have I not been able to get a job then? 
[7:49 pm] Jacklyn Romy: that doesnt make sense 
[7:49 pm] Jacklyn Romy: why would God approve you to rip off the government when there are people starving and dying on the streets who genuinely need help 
[7:50 pm] CWC: he told me that he felt I was not ready to tackle a job yet, but he will bless me with a job when he sees fit. 
[7:50 pm] CWC: I don't know. 
[7:50 pm] Jacklyn Romy: thats not my understanding of how God works
}}

{{quote|i mean, are you sure you heard him correctly? no one I know has EVER heard God tell them "hey, just sit back and do nothing, i'll hand you a job and money so you can just play games all day"|Jackie, destroying Chris with sound logic.}}



==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Autism]]
* [[Chris and money]]

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{Money}}
{{CWC-isms}}
[[Category:CWC-isms]]

July 2026 social media posts

2026-07-17T02:17:00Z

FullNameUnknown:

{{ongoing}}
This page is an archive of Chris's social media posts during [[July 2026]]. Unless otherwise indicated, the posts are on [[X]] from the account @CPU_CWCSonichu and on [[Bluesky]] from the account ‪@cpujcwcsprime.bsky.social‬ and all time stamps are Eastern Time Zone (ET).

==#SupportPhysicalMedia==
2 July 
8:47 PM

Posted to Chris's Twitter.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=@Nintendeal|Share a photo of your physical video game collection to scare a [[PlayStation]] executive 👇 
[''Posts picture of [[Nintendo Switch]] game cartridges.'']}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I will be more than glad to make an exception to my post on [[Twitter]] rule to support this. 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>DigitalOnlyPlayStationSucks 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>SupportPhysicalMedia 
@NintendoAmerica @PlayStation 
[[File:X - Physical Nintendo Switch games 2 July 2026.jpeg|400px]]}}

==Crackder Number 64127's Party (EXTENDED)==
3 July 
9:56 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky, then Twitter one minute later.

{{quotebox|C 64127's Party has been Extended and Updated with the lost clips and scenes that were recorded on the same date, but misplaced. Found them today. Enjoy the back talk of Crasher and the Jumping Jacks. 
⚡️💙⚡️

Subtitled: 
<nowiki>youtu.be/4LhmJqgnM9Q?...</nowiki>

Without Subtitles: 
<nowiki>youtu.be/eEenMWYenrg?...</nowiki>}}
{{quotebox|The Review Video has also been updated with the misplaced clips. ⚡️💙⚡️

<nowiki>youtu.be/u9UafQY6VAQ?...</nowiki>}}

On Twitter, the last sentence is altered to "Enjoy the back talks and the Jumping Jacks."

==Schedule update & ignoring Transformers rant==
{{Incomplete|The ten images}}
3 July 
10:37 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky, replying to the previous post.

{{quotebox|Also, Changeable Scouts Part 4 will come out later this month. Plus I have plenty more planned with the #[[Transformers]]Of[[Cwcville]], as well as finding more stable times for the #[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu Books]]. 
⚡️💙⚡️}}
{{quotebox|BUT, there is one thing that I feel some of you are missing with the Cwcville Autobots...

You all wanted more Cwcville, Sonichu and Rosechu "Lore", well within the shorts and episodes, I have been giving you all a lot more.

Anyone remember that the Autobots work with the Sonichus and Rosechus? 
[''Posts ten images, one including T-Mobile at the top with the time being 22:12.'']}}
{{quotebox|HOW MANY Individuals have been over-blinded by Hatred for the sake of Hatred?! Also, what a Baffling Dumb Reason to hate.

I mean, back in [[2006]] or so, people online Hated on Me! It's baffled me. Hatred for the sake of Hatred, LOLing me due to me being [[Autism|Autistic]], not to mention Mockery and...}}
{{quotebox|...the "Art" of me and my Sonichus and Rosechus mislabeling and portraying us in wrong lights. WHY?! Because it was a LOL moment for some of you and the perverted mindsets within.

I never could understand the logic and lack of reasoning. That aspect of internet culture is f***ing dumb.}}
{{quotebox|Stop Being Dumb like and start being kind with others. The judgmentalities blind from that which is better.}}
{{quotebox|And apparently those individuals are not looking into the Cwcville Autobots content that resonates along with Cybertronian History and the collaboration with Earth and all.}}
{{quotebox|I can't find it online, but there was one "art" from well over a decade and a half ago that depicted Son-Chu being bored and smoking a cigarette and acting like he lacked a purpose or meaning.

Well, He AND His Autobot Team have personalities, souls and Purpose, as do Sonichu and Rosey Rosechu.}}
{{quotebox|They are not boring, and they are dynamic in personality and substance.

If only some of you had not mocked and hated on it.

But I do appreciate those like [[Bryanfrogboy|Bryan]] and [[Trickie]] who offered fan works with substance, heart and soul.}}
{{quotebox|I realized that I was blinded by my hormones and shit, once upon a time, but my head has become a lot more clear in the past decade and progressing.}}
{{quotebox|Also, I have always been serious about the [[Dimensional Merge|Dimension Merge]]. I possess personal experiences and premonitions like a lot of [[Pisces]] born individuals do. And the Sonichus, Rosechus and everything, everywhere and everyone else of the [[C-197]] Half of this Earth are Real and Flesh like you all and I.}}
{{quotebox|I will never ever be told otherwise, because I know; it is not just simple belief. I wish all of you, [[GiBi|Gibi]] as well, would open your minds, hearts and eyes and see for yourselves.

And I really do not care if you all over hate and misread my words on the [[Reddit]] and [[Kiwi Farms|Kiwi]] or whatever.}}
{{quotebox|I am all of me, and I have been doing everything with everyone.

Peace and Love. 
⚡️💙⚡️}}

==TLUM Movie commentary video update==
3 July 
10:39 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=chrisismyidol.bsky.social|[''Replying to [[July 2026 social media posts#Crackder Number 64127's Party (EXTENDED)|a previous post]].'']

Is the [[Transformers Legacy United Merged Full Compilation Movie Plus, aka Cwclight Review Movies|TLUM movie]] premiere commentary video still coming out in the near future? I'm still very excited for it since you announced it [[January 2026 social media posts#Pre-movie livestream|back in January]]}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Yes. It has been delayed due to [[Finland|life events and adventures]], but that commentary video will be published before [[September 2026|September of 2026]].}}

==Back on Cameo==
4 July 
9:32 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky and Twitter simultaneously.

{{quotebox|I am back on Cameo and will accept requests once again. The money earned goes into my Savings, which has been progressing well. I thank you all for your kindness and support. ⚡️💙⚡️

[''links to [[Cameo]]'']}}

==Change Blue Heart's name==
4 July 
11:19 AM

Posted to Chris's Twitter.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=ネプテューヌ公式 @NepCompileHeart|Translated from Japanese

Hyperdimension Game Neptune∞

✨Follow & Repost Campaign✨

📢Until June 23rd

Autographed colored paper from #Momoka Terasawa (@momoka_terasawa), who plays Ciel & Blue Heart, will be given away to 3 winners🎯

Check the thread for entry rules‼

🔽#NepuUnlimited Official Site
https://compileheart.com/neptune/unlimited}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Change Her Goddess Name to Cyan Heart! ⚡️💙⚡️}}

==Question for Chris McFeely==
8 July 
9:26 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=[[Chris McFeely]]|[[Transformers|TRANSFORMERS]]: THE BASICS on BRAWL is now live! As the Combaticons return to store shelves in Age of the Primes, we're looking at the loudmouthed bruiser who, thaks to the Bayversre, is a rare example of a combiner team member to also enjoy solo adventures outside the group!

<nowiki>youtu.be/sSlauDYQQJY</nowiki>}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I have a question, which can also be talked about in Nexus' Basics video. Nexus Prime is neither an Autobot or Decepticon, and he is compatible with every bot and con in combining. What happens when he has both Autobots and Decepticons attached to him? 
⚡️💙⚡️}}
{{quotebox|I have a reasonable theory, given the bots combined become mind-synched: I see into the combined bot's mind. I see the five of them in a working environment, either a work table or the cockpit of the Power Rangers' (dinozord) Megazord.}}
{{quotebox|What if they are having discussions in there, and in this instance, Nexus acts as a neutral with great influence and charisma and gets the Autobot(s) and Decepticon(s) to work out their differences and find common ground that they take with them after detaching from the combined Nexus Prime. ⚡️💙⚡️}}
{{quotebox|So, in short, Nexus Prime can act as a relationship, therapy or political debate room of five. I also think of a court room with the two plantings, two attorneys and one Judge Nexus in a court room. LOL. 
[''Posts GIF of people dancing in a courtroom from ''{{w|A Black Lady Sketch Show}}''.'']}}

McFeely did not respond.

==Responding to weird account==
8 July 
6:26 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky.

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Cain|time=6:05 PM|[''Replying to [[July 2026 social media posts#Back on Cameo|an earlier post]]'']

I am Cain i live in your little town i have a idea to make the marge happen}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Yeah. I'd believe you if you had more followers, did not curse as much, as well as if you were not a trolling young whippersnapper. Rethink your life choices and morals. Also, count your blessings.}}

Chris's points imply that he had looked through some of the account, which was [https://archive.is/thUil mostly unrelated nonsensical posts].

The following day, on 9 July, the user replied:
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Cain|time=9:24:16 PM|I dont Care i am Cain bow to me mortal HA HA HA HA HA}}
Chris then blocked the account at 9:25:38 PM.

==Talking more about physical media==
9 July 
10:15 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky first, then Twitter one minute later, despite this post mainly replying to [https://x.com/mrpyo1/status/2074913111220302195 a Twitter post].

{{quotebox|I am making a rare exception about my [[Twitter]] and talk about this on both here and @[[bluesky]].

Physical Media: I am very much in favour of it. Digital media was okay for the option. But to have it as an Only way to [[Chris and video games|play (modern) console games]], I feel like it is simply wrong. 
[''Posts GIF of FanClubPlayStation PS5 Pro.'']}}
{{quotebox|Picture this with me:

You still walk into a @[[Walmart]], @[[Best Buy|BestBuy]] and you have the habit of checking out the DVDs, Blu-Ray, Video Games and physical Media section. It always feels like an interesting and updating museum experience, and you have the option to buy the exhibit.}}
{{quotebox|Except the physical game is more than the art on the box, you put it into the matching console, and you're in for many hours of adventure and fun. And when not playing, you have this growing art exhibit in your home on the walls and shelves. [[Autism|Very satisfying]].}}
{{quotebox|And, yes, it is even more satisfying to put the cartridge or disc into the console and even remove it, out it back into its case, and put it back into your collection. The exhibit and adventure you physically contact with and appreciate. No Downloading Required (mostly). 
[''Posts GIF of [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkyP7dYSeraOrv79reorniA 1980sGamer] inserting various [[Super Mario Bros.|Dr. Mario]] cartridges into a SNES.'']}}
{{quotebox|Now, the digital gaming. Sure, it's already on the console (IF you have internet and downloaded it already). But it lacks the charm and care of the physical media insertion. And what if you maxed out the storage space, and you lost access to the internet to either download...}}
{{quotebox|...more or even redownload that which you had acquired earlier, but had to delete it for space, and you can't redownload it for that simple no internet reason?

Not Good.

PS6 without physical Media? Without internet, it's more like a PSBrick.}}
{{quotebox|Also, Digital Only Consoles? More like simplified, glorified PC computers. You may as well be on [[Steam]] for that.

"Hey, Ouya, how have you been?" "Meh. I'm just a sad block these days. Got nothing in my storage, either."}}
{{quotebox|Also, picture this: say you're in an age where you can physically manifest an action figure collection after buying it online (talking about making matter for digital; not [[3D printing]]). You "download" the figure into your home and place it on your shelf in your collection.}}
{{quotebox|You'll enjoy that for years now! Well, with @[[PlayStation]]'s present s*** on PSPlus, the "license" is pulled, and your action figure collection? [[Stardate, August 27, 2010|*POOF*]]! Disappeared into thin air or dust. How does that make you feel? Distraught is the answer there.}}
{{quotebox|Now, I am going to tell you all what to do on this matter to reencourage physical Media production:

Buy Physical Disc and Cartridge games instead of Digital when possible on consoles presently and retroactively available. Maybe not purchase digital games anymore.}}
{{quotebox|Send the message to @Sony and @Microsoft that NOT EVERYONE HAS INTERNET!

Present tense, my WiFi has been out, so I have had to resort to my phone's hotspot for streaming, at least. So, there will not be a video on my @[[YouTube]] channel this week. I'll be restored next week. 
[''Posts GIF of Nintendo Switch 2 cartridge.'']}}
{{quotebox|And there are still people using Cable Television and landline phones these days.

I feel like @[[DingDongVG|dingdongvg.bsky.social]] would agree with me that gaming is better off of physical Media. Full Game's on the cartridge or disc. What? Are you blind to this, you young whippersnappers?}}
{{quotebox|Really wake @Sony and @Microsoft up. It would be bad for them if @NintendoAmerica was the Physical Game Media Monopoly and made clear of better successes on that. It has been made clear recently with the rise of Switch 2 sales and trade-ins of PS5s for them.

Think on that.⚡️💙⚡️}}

==My WiFi has been out==
9 July 
10:47 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky, then Twitter two minutes later, replying to the previous post [''Send the message to @Sony and @Microsoft that...''].

{{quotebox|[[File:Bluesky - my WiFi has been out1.jpeg|300px]] [[File:Bluesky - my WiFi has been out2.jpeg|300px]] [[File:Bluesky - my WiFi has been out3.jpeg|300px]]}}

==No new videos==
16 July 
9:43 PM

Chris notified his doting fans about his hiatus from posting until next week.

{{quotebox|Just an update, we're still having difficulty restoring the better WiFi around here, so there will not be a video this week. Rest assured, there will be a new video next week. I thank all of you for your patience.
⚡️💙⚡️}}

{{Social media}}

[[Category:Chris-chan social media posts, 2026| 07]]

July 2026 social media posts

2026-07-17T02:13:49Z

FullNameUnknown: Added CWC tweet Bluesky

{{ongoing}}
This page is an archive of Chris's social media posts during [[July 2026]]. Unless otherwise indicated, the posts are on [[X]] from the account @CPU_CWCSonichu and on [[Bluesky]] from the account ‪@cpujcwcsprime.bsky.social‬ and all time stamps are Eastern Time Zone (ET).

==#SupportPhysicalMedia==
2 July 
8:47 PM

Posted to Chris's Twitter.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=@Nintendeal|Share a photo of your physical video game collection to scare a [[PlayStation]] executive 👇 
[''Posts picture of [[Nintendo Switch]] game cartridges.'']}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I will be more than glad to make an exception to my post on [[Twitter]] rule to support this. 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>DigitalOnlyPlayStationSucks 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>SupportPhysicalMedia 
@NintendoAmerica @PlayStation 
[[File:X - Physical Nintendo Switch games 2 July 2026.jpeg|400px]]}}

==Crackder Number 64127's Party (EXTENDED)==
3 July 
9:56 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky, then Twitter one minute later.

{{quotebox|C 64127's Party has been Extended and Updated with the lost clips and scenes that were recorded on the same date, but misplaced. Found them today. Enjoy the back talk of Crasher and the Jumping Jacks. 
⚡️💙⚡️

Subtitled: 
<nowiki>youtu.be/4LhmJqgnM9Q?...</nowiki>

Without Subtitles: 
<nowiki>youtu.be/eEenMWYenrg?...</nowiki>}}
{{quotebox|The Review Video has also been updated with the misplaced clips. ⚡️💙⚡️

<nowiki>youtu.be/u9UafQY6VAQ?...</nowiki>}}

On Twitter, the last sentence is altered to "Enjoy the back talks and the Jumping Jacks."

==Schedule update & ignoring Transformers rant==
{{Incomplete|The ten images}}
3 July 
10:37 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky, replying to the previous post.

{{quotebox|Also, Changeable Scouts Part 4 will come out later this month. Plus I have plenty more planned with the #[[Transformers]]Of[[Cwcville]], as well as finding more stable times for the #[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu Books]]. 
⚡️💙⚡️}}
{{quotebox|BUT, there is one thing that I feel some of you are missing with the Cwcville Autobots...

You all wanted more Cwcville, Sonichu and Rosechu "Lore", well within the shorts and episodes, I have been giving you all a lot more.

Anyone remember that the Autobots work with the Sonichus and Rosechus? 
[''Posts ten images, one including T-Mobile at the top with the time being 22:12.'']}}
{{quotebox|HOW MANY Individuals have been over-blinded by Hatred for the sake of Hatred?! Also, what a Baffling Dumb Reason to hate.

I mean, back in [[2006]] or so, people online Hated on Me! It's baffled me. Hatred for the sake of Hatred, LOLing me due to me being [[Autism|Autistic]], not to mention Mockery and...}}
{{quotebox|...the "Art" of me and my Sonichus and Rosechus mislabeling and portraying us in wrong lights. WHY?! Because it was a LOL moment for some of you and the perverted mindsets within.

I never could understand the logic and lack of reasoning. That aspect of internet culture is f***ing dumb.}}
{{quotebox|Stop Being Dumb like and start being kind with others. The judgmentalities blind from that which is better.}}
{{quotebox|And apparently those individuals are not looking into the Cwcville Autobots content that resonates along with Cybertronian History and the collaboration with Earth and all.}}
{{quotebox|I can't find it online, but there was one "art" from well over a decade and a half ago that depicted Son-Chu being bored and smoking a cigarette and acting like he lacked a purpose or meaning.

Well, He AND His Autobot Team have personalities, souls and Purpose, as do Sonichu and Rosey Rosechu.}}
{{quotebox|They are not boring, and they are dynamic in personality and substance.

If only some of you had not mocked and hated on it.

But I do appreciate those like [[Bryanfrogboy|Bryan]] and [[Trickie]] who offered fan works with substance, heart and soul.}}
{{quotebox|I realized that I was blinded by my hormones and shit, once upon a time, but my head has become a lot more clear in the past decade and progressing.}}
{{quotebox|Also, I have always been serious about the [[Dimensional Merge|Dimension Merge]]. I possess personal experiences and premonitions like a lot of [[Pisces]] born individuals do. And the Sonichus, Rosechus and everything, everywhere and everyone else of the [[C-197]] Half of this Earth are Real and Flesh like you all and I.}}
{{quotebox|I will never ever be told otherwise, because I know; it is not just simple belief. I wish all of you, [[GiBi|Gibi]] as well, would open your minds, hearts and eyes and see for yourselves.

And I really do not care if you all over hate and misread my words on the [[Reddit]] and [[Kiwi Farms|Kiwi]] or whatever.}}
{{quotebox|I am all of me, and I have been doing everything with everyone.

Peace and Love. 
⚡️💙⚡️}}

==TLUM Movie commentary video update==
3 July 
10:39 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=chrisismyidol.bsky.social|[''Replying to [[July 2026 social media posts#Crackder Number 64127's Party (EXTENDED)|a previous post]].'']

Is the [[Transformers Legacy United Merged Full Compilation Movie Plus, aka Cwclight Review Movies|TLUM movie]] premiere commentary video still coming out in the near future? I'm still very excited for it since you announced it [[January 2026 social media posts#Pre-movie livestream|back in January]]}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Yes. It has been delayed due to [[Finland|life events and adventures]], but that commentary video will be published before [[September 2026|September of 2026]].}}

==Back on Cameo==
4 July 
9:32 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky and Twitter simultaneously.

{{quotebox|I am back on Cameo and will accept requests once again. The money earned goes into my Savings, which has been progressing well. I thank you all for your kindness and support. ⚡️💙⚡️

[''links to [[Cameo]]'']}}

==Change Blue Heart's name==
4 July 
11:19 AM

Posted to Chris's Twitter.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=ネプテューヌ公式 @NepCompileHeart|Translated from Japanese

Hyperdimension Game Neptune∞

✨Follow & Repost Campaign✨

📢Until June 23rd

Autographed colored paper from #Momoka Terasawa (@momoka_terasawa), who plays Ciel & Blue Heart, will be given away to 3 winners🎯

Check the thread for entry rules‼

🔽#NepuUnlimited Official Site
https://compileheart.com/neptune/unlimited}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Change Her Goddess Name to Cyan Heart! ⚡️💙⚡️}}

==Question for Chris McFeely==
8 July 
9:26 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky.

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=[[Chris McFeely]]|[[Transformers|TRANSFORMERS]]: THE BASICS on BRAWL is now live! As the Combaticons return to store shelves in Age of the Primes, we're looking at the loudmouthed bruiser who, thaks to the Bayversre, is a rare example of a combiner team member to also enjoy solo adventures outside the group!

<nowiki>youtu.be/sSlauDYQQJY</nowiki>}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I have a question, which can also be talked about in Nexus' Basics video. Nexus Prime is neither an Autobot or Decepticon, and he is compatible with every bot and con in combining. What happens when he has both Autobots and Decepticons attached to him? 
⚡️💙⚡️}}
{{quotebox|I have a reasonable theory, given the bots combined become mind-synched: I see into the combined bot's mind. I see the five of them in a working environment, either a work table or the cockpit of the Power Rangers' (dinozord) Megazord.}}
{{quotebox|What if they are having discussions in there, and in this instance, Nexus acts as a neutral with great influence and charisma and gets the Autobot(s) and Decepticon(s) to work out their differences and find common ground that they take with them after detaching from the combined Nexus Prime. ⚡️💙⚡️}}
{{quotebox|So, in short, Nexus Prime can act as a relationship, therapy or political debate room of five. I also think of a court room with the two plantings, two attorneys and one Judge Nexus in a court room. LOL. 
[''Posts GIF of people dancing in a courtroom from ''{{w|A Black Lady Sketch Show}}''.'']}}

McFeely did not respond.

==Responding to weird account==
8 July 
6:26 PM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky.

{{quoteboxred|speaker=Cain|time=6:05 PM|[''Replying to [[July 2026 social media posts#Back on Cameo|an earlier post]]'']

I am Cain i live in your little town i have a idea to make the marge happen}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Yeah. I'd believe you if you had more followers, did not curse as much, as well as if you were not a trolling young whippersnapper. Rethink your life choices and morals. Also, count your blessings.}}

Chris's points imply that he had looked through some of the account, which was [https://archive.is/thUil mostly unrelated nonsensical posts].

The following day, on 9 July, the user replied:
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Cain|time=9:24:16 PM|I dont Care i am Cain bow to me mortal HA HA HA HA HA}}
Chris then blocked the account at 9:25:38 PM.

==Talking more about physical media==
9 July 
10:15 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky first, then Twitter one minute later, despite this post mainly replying to [https://x.com/mrpyo1/status/2074913111220302195 a Twitter post].

{{quotebox|I am making a rare exception about my [[Twitter]] and talk about this on both here and @[[bluesky]].

Physical Media: I am very much in favour of it. Digital media was okay for the option. But to have it as an Only way to [[Chris and video games|play (modern) console games]], I feel like it is simply wrong. 
[''Posts GIF of FanClubPlayStation PS5 Pro.'']}}
{{quotebox|Picture this with me:

You still walk into a @[[Walmart]], @[[Best Buy|BestBuy]] and you have the habit of checking out the DVDs, Blu-Ray, Video Games and physical Media section. It always feels like an interesting and updating museum experience, and you have the option to buy the exhibit.}}
{{quotebox|Except the physical game is more than the art on the box, you put it into the matching console, and you're in for many hours of adventure and fun. And when not playing, you have this growing art exhibit in your home on the walls and shelves. [[Autism|Very satisfying]].}}
{{quotebox|And, yes, it is even more satisfying to put the cartridge or disc into the console and even remove it, out it back into its case, and put it back into your collection. The exhibit and adventure you physically contact with and appreciate. No Downloading Required (mostly). 
[''Posts GIF of [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkyP7dYSeraOrv79reorniA 1980sGamer] inserting various [[Super Mario Bros.|Dr. Mario]] cartridges into a SNES.'']}}
{{quotebox|Now, the digital gaming. Sure, it's already on the console (IF you have internet and downloaded it already). But it lacks the charm and care of the physical media insertion. And what if you maxed out the storage space, and you lost access to the internet to either download...}}
{{quotebox|...more or even redownload that which you had acquired earlier, but had to delete it for space, and you can't redownload it for that simple no internet reason?

Not Good.

PS6 without physical Media? Without internet, it's more like a PSBrick.}}
{{quotebox|Also, Digital Only Consoles? More like simplified, glorified PC computers. You may as well be on [[Steam]] for that.

"Hey, Ouya, how have you been?" "Meh. I'm just a sad block these days. Got nothing in my storage, either."}}
{{quotebox|Also, picture this: say you're in an age where you can physically manifest an action figure collection after buying it online (talking about making matter for digital; not [[3D printing]]). You "download" the figure into your home and place it on your shelf in your collection.}}
{{quotebox|You'll enjoy that for years now! Well, with @[[PlayStation]]'s present s*** on PSPlus, the "license" is pulled, and your action figure collection? [[Stardate, August 27, 2010|*POOF*]]! Disappeared into thin air or dust. How does that make you feel? Distraught is the answer there.}}
{{quotebox|Now, I am going to tell you all what to do on this matter to reencourage physical Media production:

Buy Physical Disc and Cartridge games instead of Digital when possible on consoles presently and retroactively available. Maybe not purchase digital games anymore.}}
{{quotebox|Send the message to @Sony and @Microsoft that NOT EVERYONE HAS INTERNET!

Present tense, my WiFi has been out, so I have had to resort to my phone's hotspot for streaming, at least. So, there will not be a video on my @[[YouTube]] channel this week. I'll be restored next week. 
[''Posts GIF of Nintendo Switch 2 cartridge.'']}}
{{quotebox|And there are still people using Cable Television and landline phones these days.

I feel like @[[DingDongVG|dingdongvg.bsky.social]] would agree with me that gaming is better off of physical Media. Full Game's on the cartridge or disc. What? Are you blind to this, you young whippersnappers?}}
{{quotebox|Really wake @Sony and @Microsoft up. It would be bad for them if @NintendoAmerica was the Physical Game Media Monopoly and made clear of better successes on that. It has been made clear recently with the rise of Switch 2 sales and trade-ins of PS5s for them.

Think on that.⚡️💙⚡️}}

==My WiFi has been out==
9 July 
10:47 AM

Posted to Chris's Bluesky, then Twitter two minutes later, replying to the previous post [''Send the message to @Sony and @Microsoft that...''].

{{quotebox|[[File:Bluesky - my WiFi has been out1.jpeg|300px]] [[File:Bluesky - my WiFi has been out2.jpeg|300px]] [[File:Bluesky - my WiFi has been out3.jpeg|300px]]}}

==No new videos==

On 16 July 2026, Chris notified his doting fans about his hiatus from posting until next week.

{{quotebox|Just an update, we're still having difficulty restoring the better WiFi around here, so there will not be a video this week. Rest assured, there will be a new video next week. I thank all of you for your patience.
⚡️💙⚡️}}

{{Social media}}

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Flutter

2026-07-17T01:11:31Z

FullNameUnknown: omg bruh

{{Imposter}}
{{ongoing}}
{{protip|Should you encounter Flutter in public (with or without Chris) do NOT harass her. Getting a discreet picture is fine if you're able to, but don't directly interact with her or Chris. [[Michael Hirtes|Once you]] [[Jacob Sockness|make yourself]] [[Idea Guys|a part]] [[Watchmen|of Christory]], [[DoopieDoOver|there is]] [[Fiona Cooper|no escaping]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|from it]].}}
{{Misinfo|It has not been confirmed that Flutter is dating Chris, or if she has a romantic relationship with him.|includegossip = yes}}

{{quote|She's a friend of mine, and I refer to her only as Flutter, because she likes [[Fluttershy]], okay? I met her in [[Lynchburg, VA|Lynchburg]], she got in touch with me while I was in jail, and we managed to meet, we managed to bond and connect with each other as friends. And she is literally thirty years old, despite the way - despite her physicality.|Chris's description of Flutter<ref name=setting>[[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| title = Flutter
| name = Unknown
| image = CWC Flutter Sighting by BlockedByDaylight 1.mp400002.png
| aliases = Flutter Egg Meryl Food Lion Lady Cabbage Patch Kid Little My
|ft=4
|in=9
|heightsrc=<ref name=flutterheightestimation>[[:File:ChrisAndFlutterHeightApproximation.png]]</ref>
| knownfor = {{•}} Appearing side-by-side with Chris in numerous post-jail sightings.
| saga = {{saga|jail|cn}}, '''[[Template:ThirdExile|Third Exile]]''', '''[[Template:RevelationsSaga|Revelations]]'''
}}

'''Flutter''' (born 1992 or 1993) is the nickname [[Chris]] gave to a [[gal-pal|female friend]] of his. Flutter reached out to Chris at some point during his time in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]]. Sometime after Chris was released in [[March 2023]], he met up with her in the city of {{w|Lynchburg, Virginia}}, and they began hanging out together.<ref name=setting></ref> Chris has referred to her simply as a friend, suggesting that their relationship is not romantic, although he does not explicitly deny having romantic feelings for her either. Chris also claims that she is thirty years old (as of 17 [[October 2023]]), despite her [[Pedofork|childlike appearance]]. The nickname "Flutter" comes from her fondness for the ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]'' character Fluttershy.

After Chris's release from jail, he was frequently [[Post-jail sightings|photographed]] by people who managed to spot him in public. In [[September 2023]], he was spotted with Flutter for the first time. On the 17th, she was spotted allegedly [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS|making out with Chris at a CVS]], causing many people to believe she was his girlfriend. [[Otaku King]] also claimed that the two of them were a couple. Given Chris's long-running [[Love Quest|Sweetheart Search]], some observers have also speculated that Flutter may be Chris's latest potential [[Sweetheart]], though this remains unconfirmed and is contradicted by Chris's own description of her as merely a friend.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1mtpsli/where_is_the_cwcdom_headed/ "Where Is The CWC-Dom Headed"], ''Reddit'', accessed 26 April 2026.</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1c27s9m/any_updates_on_chris_love_quest/ "Any updates on Chris' love quest?"], ''Reddit'', accessed 26 April 2026.</ref> In [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], however, Chris simply refers to her as a friend. Some observers have speculated that Flutter may be Finnish or of Finnish descent, noting that Chris began studying Finnish intensively on [[Duolingo]] since [[October 2023]] for no apparent reason.<ref>[[:File:Duolingo stats 23Nov2023 2.png]]</ref> This theory was bolstered by sightings of Chris and Flutter in [[Finland]]. A Reddit user who saw Flutter claims that she did not have an accent.<ref name=isabellas>[[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Isabella's Italian Trattoria Restaurant]]</ref> Another Redditor claims that she spoke in a fake anime girl voice.<ref name=animegirl>[[Sightings (2024)#Walmart Part II (July)]]</ref>

Flutter's identity and motives remain one of the more mysterious aspects of modern Christory. She appears to have gone to great lengths to maintain her anonymity, and Chris has been [[Honest Content|uncharacteristically]] steadfast in refusing to discuss the matter. The lack of any solid information regarding Flutter has allowed for the proliferation of numerous theories and rumors. Theories ranged from things such as Flutter being underage due to her youthful and diminutive appearance, being a recruit from [[Praetor]] meant to keep Chris in check, being an obscure Finnish lolcow unknown to Chris's primarily North American follower base, to even the possibility of being impregnated by Chris.<ref>[[November 2024 social media posts#Pregnancy rumor confirmed false]]</ref> Time will tell as to whether or not any of these questions end up being answered, but for now, Chris seems content maintaining his silence on the matter.

==Sightings==
{{Main|Sightings#Post-Jail}}
Flutter is best known for having been spotted together with Chris in public many times following his release from jail, first in the United States and then (beginning in April 2024) in Finland as well. This is particularly notable given Chris's substantially decreased online prescence.

===2023===
[[File:CWC CVS 17-Sept-2023 1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter at CVS]]

*On 4 [[September 2023]], Chris was spotted talking with Flutter at a Coinstar machine at a Food Lion supermarket. This was the first time she was sighted, and earned her the nickname "Food Lion Lady."<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Food_Lion]]</ref>

*On 9 September 2023, a [[ween]] stalked Chris in his car. Reportedly, Flutter was in the car with Chris, and the ween remarked that she looked like a child.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz/On_the_road_Part_II]]</ref>

*On 16 September 2023, she was spotted with Chris at [[Walmart]]. This was the first clear view of her face.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(September)]]</ref>

*On 17 September 2023, Chris was allegedly sighted hugging, touching, and ''kissing'' Flutter at a CVS.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS]]</ref>

*On the 20th, the sighter posted two ''incredibly'' blurry pictures of Chris hugging and kissing her. While Chris is easy to see, Flutter is incredibly hard to see. The sighter also made multiple comments about her.

:{{quotebox|[Chris] was all over that woman. Just kept touching her and had her hand on the back almost the whole time. She doesn’t look young.}}
:{{quotebox|She 100 percent looked uncomfortable.}}
:{{quotebox|She seemed uncomfortable and kept her head down mostly. I can’t say whether she was just uncomfortable or if she was low functioning.}}
:{{quotebox|Seemed like he was kind of leading the shopping trip. He also was very close to her at all times. Co-Worker asked if they needed help Chris made sure to step so that he was :between my Co-Worker and the girl.}}
:{{quotebox|She paid.}}

:These comments have yet to be confirmed as fact.

*On 19 September 2023, Chris supposedly walked into a game store with her.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Undisclosed_parking_lot]]</ref>

*On 1 [[October 2023]], Chris was spotted showing something on his device to her at {{w|River Ridge Mall}}. This was the clearest view of her face yet [[Sightings (2025)#Pet & Aquatic Warehouse|until another photoshoot on Valentine's Day of 2025]].<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#River_Ridge_Mall]]</ref>

*On 3 October 2023, Flutter was seen waiting in a car while Chris was shopping at Game Junkies.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Game_Junkies]]</ref>

*On 20 [[December 2023]], around 7:30 PM, a video of her was taken at the Richmond International Airport. Her origin flight was from the Charlotte Douglas International Airport, but the starting destination is unknown.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond_International_Airport]]</ref> Later that day, she was also spotted at a Sheetz in Henrico, VA, and afterwards driven away by Chris.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz_(December)]]</ref>

*On 21 December 2023, Flutter and Chris were spotted at [[Bella|Isabella]]'s Italian Trattoria Restaurant in Lynchburg. Reddit user JacksonStarship speculated that Flutter paid for the meal, also noting that Chris "ate [[SpaghettiRoutine|spaghetti]] like a toddler." The user also reported that Chris hand-fed dessert to Flutter. JacksonStarship stated that Flutter did not appear mentally handicapped, nor did she appear an exceptionally young age. On several occasions she would keep Chris in check, stopping him from escalating situations. They were last seen walking away together in the parking lot.<ref name=isabellas></ref>

===2024===
[[File:Chris-flutter-v0-hbfqn513rqac1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter at [[Animate! Raleigh]]]]

*On 4 [[January 2024]], Chris and Flutter were photographed at Ultimate Comics in Cary, North Carolina while picking up tickets for the [[Animate! Raleigh]] convention.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Cary, North Carolina]]</ref> They were seen in attendance together on 5 January 2024, with Flutter wearing a face mask. On 6 January 2024, Chris and Flutter were seen outside of the Animate! convention, reportedly having been kicked out.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Raleigh Convention Center]]</ref>

*On 23 [[March 2024]], Chris was spotted with Flutter at TJ Maxx in Lynchburg, VA, disproving rumors about her staying away from him due to the aftermath of Animate! Raleigh.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx]]</ref>

:Chris also had plans to go to [[BABSCon]] 2024 with her, but his two tickets were refunded due to the event staff being aware of his status on the internet. This is hinted at in his reply to BABSCon's email:<ref>[[BABSCon E-mails]]</ref>
{{quotebox|I was looking for an enjoyable, peaceful weekend with my friend that would have been more than very good and beneficial. But no, you dare deny us this simple pleasure as Pegasisters of the Brony Community.}}

*On 4 [[April 2024]], Chris and Flutter were both spotted at the Arabia Shopping Centre in Helsinki, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Arabia Shopping Centre, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

*On 30 [[April 2024]], Chris and Flutter were unwittingly recorded in the background of a YouTube video, holding hands while walking together at {{w|Linnanmäki|Linnanmäki}} in Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Linnanmäki, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

*On 29 [[June 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted at River Ridge Mall, where they ate at Chick-fil-A and went to see a movie.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (June)]]</ref> A few days later, on 5 [[July 2024|July]], they were seen together at a Walmart in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Walmart (July)]]</ref> A week later, they were again seen shopping in Walmart, and the Reddit user watching them claimed that Flutter was speaking in a fake anime girl voice and that Chris was telling her how to bag food properly.<ref name=animegirl></ref> A few days later on July 16, they were spotted on the road driving towards Charlottesville, with Flutter sitting in the backseat.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#On_the_road]]</ref>

*On 13 [[August 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted at River Ridge Mall and about a week later, they were spotted again, this time in Roanoke at {{w|Valley View Mall (Virginia)|Valley View Mall}}. The observers photographed them several times and even secretly recorded a video of them approaching and talking to Chris, with Flutter being behind Chris being silent and leaves without her face being shown on the video. However, two days later, one of the observers posted another photo of them from the same sighting, which marked the first time Flutter's face had been photographed since [[October 2023]].

*On 22 [[August 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted and photographed at a Goodwill in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#Goodwill]]</ref>

*On 28 [[September 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted walking in the in Helsinki, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref> The observer recorded a brief clip of them walking together.

*On 17 [[December 2024]], Chris and Flutter were seen at Redi in Kalasatama, Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#Redi,_Kalasatama,_Helsinki,_Finland]]</ref>

===2025===
[[File:Chris flutter rauma 2.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter in [[Rauma]], [[Finland]]]]

*On 14 [[February 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted browsing in a pet store.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Pet & Aquatic Warehouse]]</ref>

*On 17 [[April 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted eating at Arnold's in Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Arnold's,_Helsinki,_Finland]]</ref>

*On 23 [[July 2025]], Chris and Flutter were seen shopping at Rauma International Market in {{w|Rauma}}, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Rauma_International_Market,_Rauma,_Finland]]</ref> This is their first sighting in Finland outside of Helsinki—more than 250 km (155 mi.) away, in fact, leading some to hypothesize that Flutter lives in the area or has family there.

*On 13 [[August 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted shopping at a Walmart in Lynchburg. This sighting provided the highest-quality image of Flutter's face thus far.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Walmart_(August)]]</ref>

*On 31 [[August 2025]], Chris and presumably Flutter are spotted eating at the Red Lobster in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Red_Lobster]]</ref>

*On 7 [[September 2025]], Chris and Flutter are spotted at a Barnes and Noble in Roanoke, VA.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Valley_View_Mall]]</ref>

*On an unknown date in [[September 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Finland (September)]]</ref>

*On 29 [[December 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Forum Shopping Centre in Finland riding an escalator.<ref>[[Sightings (2025)#Forum Shopping Centre, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

===2026===
*On 22 [[May 2026]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Forum Shopping Centre in Finland again.<ref>[[Sightings (2026)#Forum, Helsinki Finland]]</ref>
*On 5 [[June 2026]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in the Mall of Tripla going to see ''The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act'' at the cinema there.<ref>[[Sightings (2026)#Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

==Wariness==
Since late [[December 2023]], when Flutter returned to the spotlight, many people have joked about the inability of [[ween]]s to take a good photo of her. This has also led to speculation that she was trying to stay out of the spotlight of said weens to avoid harassment, especially when observers noted her self-awareness at some events that she went to with Chris.

The first strong signals of this came to light on [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond International Airport|December 20]], where she was noted by an observer to wear a face mask in public:
{{quoteboxgreen|yes I was on her flight, I noticed her almost immediately but she wore a mask the whole time, It was subconscious so I didn't think much of it other than "huh she looks familiar," but while she was leaving the airport chris was waiting for her he embraced her and said her name out loud, I was on the phone and couldn't make out what he said.}}
When the said person approached them later, Chris was against him taking pictures of themselves. The same behavior repeated [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|a day later]]:
{{quoteboxpurple|As they walked out Chris commented to a passing family “a family night, that’s nice” or something like that, and Egg had to pull him through the door. I asked Chris for a photo as he was walking out and he got PISSED. But I still shook Chris’ hand. Wish I could’ve gotten better photos but it was kind of a formal dinner.}}
He has also stated Flutter didn't seem to be mentally handicapped and took on a near [[Barbara Chandler|motherly role]] during the visit.
{{quoteboxpurple|Egg didn’t say a word to me, I passed their table at 2 points. She wasn’t noticeably mentally handicapped and seemed to be keeping Chris in check to some degree}}
During [[Animate! Raleigh]], Flutter was seen with all of her face covered up by a face mask, sunglasses and her hair. Observers also noted her obsessive self-awareness at the event.
{{quoteboxblue|I am legit annoyed that you people cannot be bothered to get one clear photo or video. How hard can it be?}}
{{quoteboxorange|Genuinely this has been more difficult than you’d imagine. Flutter appears to be quite vigilant and unwilling (obviously) to appear in anything, especially candids. With her proximity to Chris it is not surprising there is a lack of high def photos}}

{{quoteboxorange|i was legitimately right beside them on an escalator yesterday without realizing and genuinely she is so hard to see. she has such self awareness compared to chris it is insane}}

==Chris's Silence==
{{quote|That remains absolutely with no comment!|Chris, after being asked about Flutter and his Finland visits<ref>[[Waltah White Calls#Walt's call with cwc! 5/17/25]]</ref>}}

When he first spoke about her [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|shortly after returning to the Internet]], Chris only shared her nickname and the fact that she had reached out to him while he was [[Jail Saga|incarcerated]], and that they had met up in [[Lynchburg]] following his release.

In a [[May 2025]] [[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25|call with a ween]], Chris was asked directly about Flutter and proceeded to [[List of Chris's lies|lie]] about everything possibly related to her, including denying that he ever went to [[Finland]] with her or was learning Finnish on [[Duolingo]]. Instead he claimed Flutter lives in Philadelphia and is going to [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|college]] there, but was both unwilling and unable to provide any details when pressed further. He refused to give up her real name or even the first letter, even after being offered bribes of $50, $150 and purchases from his [[OfficialCWCmart|Etsy store]], stating simply, "Her name shall not be revealed."<ref>[[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25#Transcript]]</ref>

==Gallery==
===Sightings===
Below is a gallery of select photoshoots of Flutter with Chris.
<center>
<gallery>
File:Foodlionflutter.png|At Food Lion.
File:Walmartflutter.png|At Walmart.
File:Flutter.png|At River Ridge Mall.
File:CaryNC4Jan2024.jpeg|[[Sightings (2024)#Cary,North Carolina|Cary, NC]].
File:Photos-from-earlier-today-v0-zrbilxihwqac1.jpg|[[Animate! Raleigh]].
File:Chris chan & flutter with security raleigh.jpeg|With the Raleigh convention security guards.
File:Chris-chan-kicked-out-of-animate-raleigh-v0-alm3dykgevac1 cropped.jpg|Denied entry into [[Animate! Raleigh]].
File:ChrisFlutterTJMaxx23March.png|[[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx|TJ Maxx in Lynchburg]].
File:Chris and Flutter at Linnanmäki 30 April 2024 (cropped screencap).jpg|[[Sightings (2024)#Linnanmäki, Helsinki, Finland|At Linnanmäki in Helsinki, Finland]].
File:Chris&FlutterRidgeRiverMallJune2024.jpeg|[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (June)|At River Ridge Mall]].
File:Walmart 5Jul2024 2 (cropped).jpg|In parking lot at Walmart.
File:Walmart 5Jul2024 3 (cropped).png|In line at Walmart.
File:Walmart 12Jul2024 1 (cropped).jpg|At Walmart meat section.
File:CWC Flutter 13Aug2024 2.jpg|[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (August)|At River Ridge Mall]].
File:Cwcflutterface-aug2024.jpg|At Valley View Mall.
File:22 August 2024 Chris and Flutter at Goodwill2.png|At Goodwill.
File:Chris and Flutter at Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland.mov00001.png|At Mall of Tripla in Helsinki, Finland.
File:14 February 2025 Chris and Flutter in pet store1.jpg|At Pet & Aquatic Warehouse.
File:Chris flutter rauma 2.jpg|[[Sightings (2025)#Rauma International Market, Rauma, Finland|Wearing matching outfits with Chris in Rauma, Finland]].
File:CWC Flutter Sighting by BlockedByDaylight 1.mp400001.png|Walmart, [[August 2025]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Walmart Sighting, August 2025]]</ref>
File:May22 2026 Helsinki cropped.jpeg|In Forum Shopping Centre, Finland, [[May 2026]]
</ref>
</gallery>
</center>

===Other===
<center>
<gallery>
File:FlutterMinecraftSkin.jpg|A [[Minecraft]] skin of Flutter seen in [[June_2024_livestreams#Christ_Chan_Live_Stream:_OG_Cwcville_(Cwcville)-60_Minecraft|a livestream]].
</gallery>
</center>

==See Also==
*[[The Wallflower]] - A prior gal-pal that Chris attempted to keep under wraps.

{{References}}

{{Articleofthenow}}
[[Category:Gal pals]]
{{JailSaga}}
{{ThirdExile}}
{{RevelationsSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Millennial Generation]]

Flutter

2026-07-17T01:04:09Z

FullNameUnknown: Fixing a tagging error

{{Imposter}}
{{ongoing}}
{{protip|Should you encounter Flutter in public (with or without Chris) do NOT harass her. Getting a discreet picture is fine if you're able to, but don't directly interact with her or Chris. [[Michael Hirtes|Once you]] [[Jacob Sockness|make yourself]] [[Idea Guys|a part]] [[Watchmen|of Christory]], [[DoopieDoOver|there is]] [[Fiona Cooper|no escaping]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|from it]].}}
{{Misinfo|It has not been confirmed that Flutter is dating Chris, or if she has a romantic relationship with him.|includegossip = yes}}

{{quote|She's a friend of mine, and I refer to her only as Flutter, because she likes [[Fluttershy]], okay? I met her in [[Lynchburg, VA|Lynchburg]], she got in touch with me while I was in jail, and we managed to meet, we managed to bond and connect with each other as friends. And she is literally thirty years old, despite the way - despite her physicality.|Chris's description of Flutter<ref name=setting>[[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| title = Flutter
| name = Unknown
| image = CWC Flutter Sighting by BlockedByDaylight 1.mp400002.png
| aliases = Flutter Egg Meryl Food Lion Lady Cabbage Patch Kid Little My
|ft=4
|in=9
|heightsrc=<ref name=flutterheightestimation>[[File:ChrisAndFlutterHeightApproximation.png]]</ref>
| knownfor = {{•}} Appearing side-by-side with Chris in numerous post-jail sightings.
| saga = {{saga|jail|cn}}, '''[[Template:ThirdExile|Third Exile]]''', '''[[Template:RevelationsSaga|Revelations]]'''
}}

'''Flutter''' (born 1992 or 1993) is the nickname [[Chris]] gave to a [[gal-pal|female friend]] of his. Flutter reached out to Chris at some point during his time in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]]. Sometime after Chris was released in [[March 2023]], he met up with her in the city of {{w|Lynchburg, Virginia}}, and they began hanging out together.<ref name=setting></ref> Chris has referred to her simply as a friend, suggesting that their relationship is not romantic, although he does not explicitly deny having romantic feelings for her either. Chris also claims that she is thirty years old (as of 17 [[October 2023]]), despite her [[Pedofork|childlike appearance]]. The nickname "Flutter" comes from her fondness for the ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]'' character Fluttershy.

After Chris's release from jail, he was frequently [[Post-jail sightings|photographed]] by people who managed to spot him in public. In [[September 2023]], he was spotted with Flutter for the first time. On the 17th, she was spotted allegedly [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS|making out with Chris at a CVS]], causing many people to believe she was his girlfriend. [[Otaku King]] also claimed that the two of them were a couple. Given Chris's long-running [[Love Quest|Sweetheart Search]], some observers have also speculated that Flutter may be Chris's latest potential [[Sweetheart]], though this remains unconfirmed and is contradicted by Chris's own description of her as merely a friend.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1mtpsli/where_is_the_cwcdom_headed/ "Where Is The CWC-Dom Headed"], ''Reddit'', accessed 26 April 2026.</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1c27s9m/any_updates_on_chris_love_quest/ "Any updates on Chris' love quest?"], ''Reddit'', accessed 26 April 2026.</ref> In [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], however, Chris simply refers to her as a friend. Some observers have speculated that Flutter may be Finnish or of Finnish descent, noting that Chris began studying Finnish intensively on [[Duolingo]] since [[October 2023]] for no apparent reason.<ref>[[:File:Duolingo stats 23Nov2023 2.png]]</ref> This theory was bolstered by sightings of Chris and Flutter in [[Finland]]. A Reddit user who saw Flutter claims that she did not have an accent.<ref name=isabellas>[[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Isabella's Italian Trattoria Restaurant]]</ref> Another Redditor claims that she spoke in a fake anime girl voice.<ref name=animegirl>[[Sightings (2024)#Walmart Part II (July)]]</ref>

Flutter's identity and motives remain one of the more mysterious aspects of modern Christory. She appears to have gone to great lengths to maintain her anonymity, and Chris has been [[Honest Content|uncharacteristically]] steadfast in refusing to discuss the matter. The lack of any solid information regarding Flutter has allowed for the proliferation of numerous theories and rumors. Theories ranged from things such as Flutter being underage due to her youthful and diminutive appearance, being a recruit from [[Praetor]] meant to keep Chris in check, being an obscure Finnish lolcow unknown to Chris's primarily North American follower base, to even the possibility of being impregnated by Chris.<ref>[[November 2024 social media posts#Pregnancy rumor confirmed false]]</ref> Time will tell as to whether or not any of these questions end up being answered, but for now, Chris seems content maintaining his silence on the matter.

==Sightings==
{{Main|Sightings#Post-Jail}}
Flutter is best known for having been spotted together with Chris in public many times following his release from jail, first in the United States and then (beginning in April 2024) in Finland as well. This is particularly notable given Chris's substantially decreased online prescence.

===2023===
[[File:CWC CVS 17-Sept-2023 1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter at CVS]]

*On 4 [[September 2023]], Chris was spotted talking with Flutter at a Coinstar machine at a Food Lion supermarket. This was the first time she was sighted, and earned her the nickname "Food Lion Lady."<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Food_Lion]]</ref>

*On 9 September 2023, a [[ween]] stalked Chris in his car. Reportedly, Flutter was in the car with Chris, and the ween remarked that she looked like a child.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz/On_the_road_Part_II]]</ref>

*On 16 September 2023, she was spotted with Chris at [[Walmart]]. This was the first clear view of her face.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(September)]]</ref>

*On 17 September 2023, Chris was allegedly sighted hugging, touching, and ''kissing'' Flutter at a CVS.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS]]</ref>

*On the 20th, the sighter posted two ''incredibly'' blurry pictures of Chris hugging and kissing her. While Chris is easy to see, Flutter is incredibly hard to see. The sighter also made multiple comments about her.

:{{quotebox|[Chris] was all over that woman. Just kept touching her and had her hand on the back almost the whole time. She doesn’t look young.}}
:{{quotebox|She 100 percent looked uncomfortable.}}
:{{quotebox|She seemed uncomfortable and kept her head down mostly. I can’t say whether she was just uncomfortable or if she was low functioning.}}
:{{quotebox|Seemed like he was kind of leading the shopping trip. He also was very close to her at all times. Co-Worker asked if they needed help Chris made sure to step so that he was :between my Co-Worker and the girl.}}
:{{quotebox|She paid.}}

:These comments have yet to be confirmed as fact.

*On 19 September 2023, Chris supposedly walked into a game store with her.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Undisclosed_parking_lot]]</ref>

*On 1 [[October 2023]], Chris was spotted showing something on his device to her at {{w|River Ridge Mall}}. This was the clearest view of her face yet [[Sightings (2025)#Pet & Aquatic Warehouse|until another photoshoot on Valentine's Day of 2025]].<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#River_Ridge_Mall]]</ref>

*On 3 October 2023, Flutter was seen waiting in a car while Chris was shopping at Game Junkies.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Game_Junkies]]</ref>

*On 20 [[December 2023]], around 7:30 PM, a video of her was taken at the Richmond International Airport. Her origin flight was from the Charlotte Douglas International Airport, but the starting destination is unknown.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond_International_Airport]]</ref> Later that day, she was also spotted at a Sheetz in Henrico, VA, and afterwards driven away by Chris.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz_(December)]]</ref>

*On 21 December 2023, Flutter and Chris were spotted at [[Bella|Isabella]]'s Italian Trattoria Restaurant in Lynchburg. Reddit user JacksonStarship speculated that Flutter paid for the meal, also noting that Chris "ate [[SpaghettiRoutine|spaghetti]] like a toddler." The user also reported that Chris hand-fed dessert to Flutter. JacksonStarship stated that Flutter did not appear mentally handicapped, nor did she appear an exceptionally young age. On several occasions she would keep Chris in check, stopping him from escalating situations. They were last seen walking away together in the parking lot.<ref name=isabellas></ref>

===2024===
[[File:Chris-flutter-v0-hbfqn513rqac1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter at [[Animate! Raleigh]]]]

*On 4 [[January 2024]], Chris and Flutter were photographed at Ultimate Comics in Cary, North Carolina while picking up tickets for the [[Animate! Raleigh]] convention.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Cary, North Carolina]]</ref> They were seen in attendance together on 5 January 2024, with Flutter wearing a face mask. On 6 January 2024, Chris and Flutter were seen outside of the Animate! convention, reportedly having been kicked out.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Raleigh Convention Center]]</ref>

*On 23 [[March 2024]], Chris was spotted with Flutter at TJ Maxx in Lynchburg, VA, disproving rumors about her staying away from him due to the aftermath of Animate! Raleigh.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx]]</ref>

:Chris also had plans to go to [[BABSCon]] 2024 with her, but his two tickets were refunded due to the event staff being aware of his status on the internet. This is hinted at in his reply to BABSCon's email:<ref>[[BABSCon E-mails]]</ref>
{{quotebox|I was looking for an enjoyable, peaceful weekend with my friend that would have been more than very good and beneficial. But no, you dare deny us this simple pleasure as Pegasisters of the Brony Community.}}

*On 4 [[April 2024]], Chris and Flutter were both spotted at the Arabia Shopping Centre in Helsinki, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Arabia Shopping Centre, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

*On 30 [[April 2024]], Chris and Flutter were unwittingly recorded in the background of a YouTube video, holding hands while walking together at {{w|Linnanmäki|Linnanmäki}} in Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Linnanmäki, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

*On 29 [[June 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted at River Ridge Mall, where they ate at Chick-fil-A and went to see a movie.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (June)]]</ref> A few days later, on 5 [[July 2024|July]], they were seen together at a Walmart in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Walmart (July)]]</ref> A week later, they were again seen shopping in Walmart, and the Reddit user watching them claimed that Flutter was speaking in a fake anime girl voice and that Chris was telling her how to bag food properly.<ref name=animegirl></ref> A few days later on July 16, they were spotted on the road driving towards Charlottesville, with Flutter sitting in the backseat.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#On_the_road]]</ref>

*On 13 [[August 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted at River Ridge Mall and about a week later, they were spotted again, this time in Roanoke at {{w|Valley View Mall (Virginia)|Valley View Mall}}. The observers photographed them several times and even secretly recorded a video of them approaching and talking to Chris, with Flutter being behind Chris being silent and leaves without her face being shown on the video. However, two days later, one of the observers posted another photo of them from the same sighting, which marked the first time Flutter's face had been photographed since [[October 2023]].

*On 22 [[August 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted and photographed at a Goodwill in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#Goodwill]]</ref>

*On 28 [[September 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted walking in the in Helsinki, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref> The observer recorded a brief clip of them walking together.

*On 17 [[December 2024]], Chris and Flutter were seen at Redi in Kalasatama, Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#Redi,_Kalasatama,_Helsinki,_Finland]]</ref>

===2025===
[[File:Chris flutter rauma 2.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter in [[Rauma]], [[Finland]]]]

*On 14 [[February 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted browsing in a pet store.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Pet & Aquatic Warehouse]]</ref>

*On 17 [[April 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted eating at Arnold's in Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Arnold's,_Helsinki,_Finland]]</ref>

*On 23 [[July 2025]], Chris and Flutter were seen shopping at Rauma International Market in {{w|Rauma}}, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Rauma_International_Market,_Rauma,_Finland]]</ref> This is their first sighting in Finland outside of Helsinki—more than 250 km (155 mi.) away, in fact, leading some to hypothesize that Flutter lives in the area or has family there.

*On 13 [[August 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted shopping at a Walmart in Lynchburg. This sighting provided the highest-quality image of Flutter's face thus far.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Walmart_(August)]]</ref>

*On 31 [[August 2025]], Chris and presumably Flutter are spotted eating at the Red Lobster in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Red_Lobster]]</ref>

*On 7 [[September 2025]], Chris and Flutter are spotted at a Barnes and Noble in Roanoke, VA.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Valley_View_Mall]]</ref>

*On an unknown date in [[September 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Finland (September)]]</ref>

*On 29 [[December 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Forum Shopping Centre in Finland riding an escalator.<ref>[[Sightings (2025)#Forum Shopping Centre, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

===2026===
*On 22 [[May 2026]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Forum Shopping Centre in Finland again.<ref>[[Sightings (2026)#Forum, Helsinki Finland]]</ref>
*On 5 [[June 2026]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in the Mall of Tripla going to see ''The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act'' at the cinema there.<ref>[[Sightings (2026)#Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

==Wariness==
Since late [[December 2023]], when Flutter returned to the spotlight, many people have joked about the inability of [[ween]]s to take a good photo of her. This has also led to speculation that she was trying to stay out of the spotlight of said weens to avoid harassment, especially when observers noted her self-awareness at some events that she went to with Chris.

The first strong signals of this came to light on [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond International Airport|December 20]], where she was noted by an observer to wear a face mask in public:
{{quoteboxgreen|yes I was on her flight, I noticed her almost immediately but she wore a mask the whole time, It was subconscious so I didn't think much of it other than "huh she looks familiar," but while she was leaving the airport chris was waiting for her he embraced her and said her name out loud, I was on the phone and couldn't make out what he said.}}
When the said person approached them later, Chris was against him taking pictures of themselves. The same behavior repeated [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|a day later]]:
{{quoteboxpurple|As they walked out Chris commented to a passing family “a family night, that’s nice” or something like that, and Egg had to pull him through the door. I asked Chris for a photo as he was walking out and he got PISSED. But I still shook Chris’ hand. Wish I could’ve gotten better photos but it was kind of a formal dinner.}}
He has also stated Flutter didn't seem to be mentally handicapped and took on a near [[Barbara Chandler|motherly role]] during the visit.
{{quoteboxpurple|Egg didn’t say a word to me, I passed their table at 2 points. She wasn’t noticeably mentally handicapped and seemed to be keeping Chris in check to some degree}}
During [[Animate! Raleigh]], Flutter was seen with all of her face covered up by a face mask, sunglasses and her hair. Observers also noted her obsessive self-awareness at the event.
{{quoteboxblue|I am legit annoyed that you people cannot be bothered to get one clear photo or video. How hard can it be?}}
{{quoteboxorange|Genuinely this has been more difficult than you’d imagine. Flutter appears to be quite vigilant and unwilling (obviously) to appear in anything, especially candids. With her proximity to Chris it is not surprising there is a lack of high def photos}}

{{quoteboxorange|i was legitimately right beside them on an escalator yesterday without realizing and genuinely she is so hard to see. she has such self awareness compared to chris it is insane}}

==Chris's Silence==
{{quote|That remains absolutely with no comment!|Chris, after being asked about Flutter and his Finland visits<ref>[[Waltah White Calls#Walt's call with cwc! 5/17/25]]</ref>}}

When he first spoke about her [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|shortly after returning to the Internet]], Chris only shared her nickname and the fact that she had reached out to him while he was [[Jail Saga|incarcerated]], and that they had met up in [[Lynchburg]] following his release.

In a [[May 2025]] [[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25|call with a ween]], Chris was asked directly about Flutter and proceeded to [[List of Chris's lies|lie]] about everything possibly related to her, including denying that he ever went to [[Finland]] with her or was learning Finnish on [[Duolingo]]. Instead he claimed Flutter lives in Philadelphia and is going to [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|college]] there, but was both unwilling and unable to provide any details when pressed further. He refused to give up her real name or even the first letter, even after being offered bribes of $50, $150 and purchases from his [[OfficialCWCmart|Etsy store]], stating simply, "Her name shall not be revealed."<ref>[[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25#Transcript]]</ref>

==Gallery==
===Sightings===
Below is a gallery of select photoshoots of Flutter with Chris.
<center>
<gallery>
File:Foodlionflutter.png|At Food Lion.
File:Walmartflutter.png|At Walmart.
File:Flutter.png|At River Ridge Mall.
File:CaryNC4Jan2024.jpeg|[[Sightings (2024)#Cary,North Carolina|Cary, NC]].
File:Photos-from-earlier-today-v0-zrbilxihwqac1.jpg|[[Animate! Raleigh]].
File:Chris chan & flutter with security raleigh.jpeg|With the Raleigh convention security guards.
File:Chris-chan-kicked-out-of-animate-raleigh-v0-alm3dykgevac1 cropped.jpg|Denied entry into [[Animate! Raleigh]].
File:ChrisFlutterTJMaxx23March.png|[[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx|TJ Maxx in Lynchburg]].
File:Chris and Flutter at Linnanmäki 30 April 2024 (cropped screencap).jpg|[[Sightings (2024)#Linnanmäki, Helsinki, Finland|At Linnanmäki in Helsinki, Finland]].
File:Chris&FlutterRidgeRiverMallJune2024.jpeg|[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (June)|At River Ridge Mall]].
File:Walmart 5Jul2024 2 (cropped).jpg|In parking lot at Walmart.
File:Walmart 5Jul2024 3 (cropped).png|In line at Walmart.
File:Walmart 12Jul2024 1 (cropped).jpg|At Walmart meat section.
File:CWC Flutter 13Aug2024 2.jpg|[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (August)|At River Ridge Mall]].
File:Cwcflutterface-aug2024.jpg|At Valley View Mall.
File:22 August 2024 Chris and Flutter at Goodwill2.png|At Goodwill.
File:Chris and Flutter at Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland.mov00001.png|At Mall of Tripla in Helsinki, Finland.
File:14 February 2025 Chris and Flutter in pet store1.jpg|At Pet & Aquatic Warehouse.
File:Chris flutter rauma 2.jpg|[[Sightings (2025)#Rauma International Market, Rauma, Finland|Wearing matching outfits with Chris in Rauma, Finland]].
File:CWC Flutter Sighting by BlockedByDaylight 1.mp400001.png|Walmart, [[August 2025]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Walmart Sighting, August 2025]]</ref>
File:May22 2026 Helsinki cropped.jpeg|In Forum Shopping Centre, Finland, [[May 2026]]
</ref>
</gallery>
</center>

===Other===
<center>
<gallery>
File:FlutterMinecraftSkin.jpg|A [[Minecraft]] skin of Flutter seen in [[June_2024_livestreams#Christ_Chan_Live_Stream:_OG_Cwcville_(Cwcville)-60_Minecraft|a livestream]].
</gallery>
</center>

==See Also==
*[[The Wallflower]] - A prior gal-pal that Chris attempted to keep under wraps.

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Flutter

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{{Imposter}}
{{ongoing}}
{{protip|Should you encounter Flutter in public (with or without Chris) do NOT harass her. Getting a discreet picture is fine if you're able to, but don't directly interact with her or Chris. [[Michael Hirtes|Once you]] [[Jacob Sockness|make yourself]] [[Idea Guys|a part]] [[Watchmen|of Christory]], [[DoopieDoOver|there is]] [[Fiona Cooper|no escaping]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|from it]].}}
{{Misinfo|It has not been confirmed that Flutter is dating Chris, or if she has a romantic relationship with him.|includegossip = yes}}

{{quote|She's a friend of mine, and I refer to her only as Flutter, because she likes [[Fluttershy]], okay? I met her in [[Lynchburg, VA|Lynchburg]], she got in touch with me while I was in jail, and we managed to meet, we managed to bond and connect with each other as friends. And she is literally thirty years old, despite the way - despite her physicality.|Chris's description of Flutter<ref name=setting>[[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
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| name = Unknown
| image = CWC Flutter Sighting by BlockedByDaylight 1.mp400002.png
| aliases = Flutter Egg Meryl Food Lion Lady Cabbage Patch Kid Little My
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| knownfor = {{•}} Appearing side-by-side with Chris in numerous post-jail sightings.
| saga = {{saga|jail|cn}}, '''[[Template:ThirdExile|Third Exile]]''', '''[[Template:RevelationsSaga|Revelations]]'''
}}

'''Flutter''' (born 1992 or 1993) is the nickname [[Chris]] gave to a [[gal-pal|female friend]] of his. Flutter reached out to Chris at some point during his time in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]]. Sometime after Chris was released in [[March 2023]], he met up with her in the city of {{w|Lynchburg, Virginia}}, and they began hanging out together.<ref name=setting></ref> Chris has referred to her simply as a friend, suggesting that their relationship is not romantic, although he does not explicitly deny having romantic feelings for her either. Chris also claims that she is thirty years old (as of 17 [[October 2023]]), despite her [[Pedofork|childlike appearance]]. The nickname "Flutter" comes from her fondness for the ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]'' character Fluttershy.

After Chris's release from jail, he was frequently [[Post-jail sightings|photographed]] by people who managed to spot him in public. In [[September 2023]], he was spotted with Flutter for the first time. On the 17th, she was spotted allegedly [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS|making out with Chris at a CVS]], causing many people to believe she was his girlfriend. [[Otaku King]] also claimed that the two of them were a couple. Given Chris's long-running [[Love Quest|Sweetheart Search]], some observers have also speculated that Flutter may be Chris's latest potential [[Sweetheart]], though this remains unconfirmed and is contradicted by Chris's own description of her as merely a friend.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1mtpsli/where_is_the_cwcdom_headed/ "Where Is The CWC-Dom Headed"], ''Reddit'', accessed 26 April 2026.</ref><ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1c27s9m/any_updates_on_chris_love_quest/ "Any updates on Chris' love quest?"], ''Reddit'', accessed 26 April 2026.</ref> In [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], however, Chris simply refers to her as a friend. Some observers have speculated that Flutter may be Finnish or of Finnish descent, noting that Chris began studying Finnish intensively on [[Duolingo]] since [[October 2023]] for no apparent reason.<ref>[[:File:Duolingo stats 23Nov2023 2.png]]</ref> This theory was bolstered by sightings of Chris and Flutter in [[Finland]]. A Reddit user who saw Flutter claims that she did not have an accent.<ref name=isabellas>[[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Isabella's Italian Trattoria Restaurant]]</ref> Another Redditor claims that she spoke in a fake anime girl voice.<ref name=animegirl>[[Sightings (2024)#Walmart Part II (July)]]</ref>

Flutter's identity and motives remain one of the more mysterious aspects of modern Christory. She appears to have gone to great lengths to maintain her anonymity, and Chris has been [[Honest Content|uncharacteristically]] steadfast in refusing to discuss the matter. The lack of any solid information regarding Flutter has allowed for the proliferation of numerous theories and rumors. Theories ranged from things such as Flutter being underage due to her youthful and diminutive appearance, being a recruit from [[Praetor]] meant to keep Chris in check, being an obscure Finnish lolcow unknown to Chris's primarily North American follower base, to even the possibility of being impregnated by Chris.<ref>[[November 2024 social media posts#Pregnancy rumor confirmed false]]</ref> Time will tell as to whether or not any of these questions end up being answered, but for now, Chris seems content maintaining his silence on the matter.

==Sightings==
{{Main|Sightings#Post-Jail}}
Flutter is best known for having been spotted together with Chris in public many times following his release from jail, first in the United States and then (beginning in April 2024) in Finland as well. This is particularly notable given Chris's substantially decreased online prescence.

===2023===
[[File:CWC CVS 17-Sept-2023 1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter at CVS]]

*On 4 [[September 2023]], Chris was spotted talking with Flutter at a Coinstar machine at a Food Lion supermarket. This was the first time she was sighted, and earned her the nickname "Food Lion Lady."<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Food_Lion]]</ref>

*On 9 September 2023, a [[ween]] stalked Chris in his car. Reportedly, Flutter was in the car with Chris, and the ween remarked that she looked like a child.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz/On_the_road_Part_II]]</ref>

*On 16 September 2023, she was spotted with Chris at [[Walmart]]. This was the first clear view of her face.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(September)]]</ref>

*On 17 September 2023, Chris was allegedly sighted hugging, touching, and ''kissing'' Flutter at a CVS.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS]]</ref>

*On the 20th, the sighter posted two ''incredibly'' blurry pictures of Chris hugging and kissing her. While Chris is easy to see, Flutter is incredibly hard to see. The sighter also made multiple comments about her.

:{{quotebox|[Chris] was all over that woman. Just kept touching her and had her hand on the back almost the whole time. She doesn’t look young.}}
:{{quotebox|She 100 percent looked uncomfortable.}}
:{{quotebox|She seemed uncomfortable and kept her head down mostly. I can’t say whether she was just uncomfortable or if she was low functioning.}}
:{{quotebox|Seemed like he was kind of leading the shopping trip. He also was very close to her at all times. Co-Worker asked if they needed help Chris made sure to step so that he was :between my Co-Worker and the girl.}}
:{{quotebox|She paid.}}

:These comments have yet to be confirmed as fact.

*On 19 September 2023, Chris supposedly walked into a game store with her.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Undisclosed_parking_lot]]</ref>

*On 1 [[October 2023]], Chris was spotted showing something on his device to her at {{w|River Ridge Mall}}. This was the clearest view of her face yet [[Sightings (2025)#Pet & Aquatic Warehouse|until another photoshoot on Valentine's Day of 2025]].<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#River_Ridge_Mall]]</ref>

*On 3 October 2023, Flutter was seen waiting in a car while Chris was shopping at Game Junkies.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Game_Junkies]]</ref>

*On 20 [[December 2023]], around 7:30 PM, a video of her was taken at the Richmond International Airport. Her origin flight was from the Charlotte Douglas International Airport, but the starting destination is unknown.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond_International_Airport]]</ref> Later that day, she was also spotted at a Sheetz in Henrico, VA, and afterwards driven away by Chris.<ref>[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz_(December)]]</ref>

*On 21 December 2023, Flutter and Chris were spotted at [[Bella|Isabella]]'s Italian Trattoria Restaurant in Lynchburg. Reddit user JacksonStarship speculated that Flutter paid for the meal, also noting that Chris "ate [[SpaghettiRoutine|spaghetti]] like a toddler." The user also reported that Chris hand-fed dessert to Flutter. JacksonStarship stated that Flutter did not appear mentally handicapped, nor did she appear an exceptionally young age. On several occasions she would keep Chris in check, stopping him from escalating situations. They were last seen walking away together in the parking lot.<ref name=isabellas></ref>

===2024===
[[File:Chris-flutter-v0-hbfqn513rqac1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter at [[Animate! Raleigh]]]]

*On 4 [[January 2024]], Chris and Flutter were photographed at Ultimate Comics in Cary, North Carolina while picking up tickets for the [[Animate! Raleigh]] convention.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Cary, North Carolina]]</ref> They were seen in attendance together on 5 January 2024, with Flutter wearing a face mask. On 6 January 2024, Chris and Flutter were seen outside of the Animate! convention, reportedly having been kicked out.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Raleigh Convention Center]]</ref>

*On 23 [[March 2024]], Chris was spotted with Flutter at TJ Maxx in Lynchburg, VA, disproving rumors about her staying away from him due to the aftermath of Animate! Raleigh.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx]]</ref>

:Chris also had plans to go to [[BABSCon]] 2024 with her, but his two tickets were refunded due to the event staff being aware of his status on the internet. This is hinted at in his reply to BABSCon's email:<ref>[[BABSCon E-mails]]</ref>
{{quotebox|I was looking for an enjoyable, peaceful weekend with my friend that would have been more than very good and beneficial. But no, you dare deny us this simple pleasure as Pegasisters of the Brony Community.}}

*On 4 [[April 2024]], Chris and Flutter were both spotted at the Arabia Shopping Centre in Helsinki, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Arabia Shopping Centre, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

*On 30 [[April 2024]], Chris and Flutter were unwittingly recorded in the background of a YouTube video, holding hands while walking together at {{w|Linnanmäki|Linnanmäki}} in Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Linnanmäki, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

*On 29 [[June 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted at River Ridge Mall, where they ate at Chick-fil-A and went to see a movie.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (June)]]</ref> A few days later, on 5 [[July 2024|July]], they were seen together at a Walmart in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Walmart (July)]]</ref> A week later, they were again seen shopping in Walmart, and the Reddit user watching them claimed that Flutter was speaking in a fake anime girl voice and that Chris was telling her how to bag food properly.<ref name=animegirl></ref> A few days later on July 16, they were spotted on the road driving towards Charlottesville, with Flutter sitting in the backseat.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#On_the_road]]</ref>

*On 13 [[August 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted at River Ridge Mall and about a week later, they were spotted again, this time in Roanoke at {{w|Valley View Mall (Virginia)|Valley View Mall}}. The observers photographed them several times and even secretly recorded a video of them approaching and talking to Chris, with Flutter being behind Chris being silent and leaves without her face being shown on the video. However, two days later, one of the observers posted another photo of them from the same sighting, which marked the first time Flutter's face had been photographed since [[October 2023]].

*On 22 [[August 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted and photographed at a Goodwill in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#Goodwill]]</ref>

*On 28 [[September 2024]], Chris and Flutter were spotted walking in the in Helsinki, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref> The observer recorded a brief clip of them walking together.

*On 17 [[December 2024]], Chris and Flutter were seen at Redi in Kalasatama, Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2024)#Redi,_Kalasatama,_Helsinki,_Finland]]</ref>

===2025===
[[File:Chris flutter rauma 2.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Chris and Flutter in [[Rauma]], [[Finland]]]]

*On 14 [[February 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted browsing in a pet store.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Pet & Aquatic Warehouse]]</ref>

*On 17 [[April 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted eating at Arnold's in Helsinki, Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Arnold's,_Helsinki,_Finland]]</ref>

*On 23 [[July 2025]], Chris and Flutter were seen shopping at Rauma International Market in {{w|Rauma}}, [[Finland]].<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Rauma_International_Market,_Rauma,_Finland]]</ref> This is their first sighting in Finland outside of Helsinki—more than 250 km (155 mi.) away, in fact, leading some to hypothesize that Flutter lives in the area or has family there.

*On 13 [[August 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted shopping at a Walmart in Lynchburg. This sighting provided the highest-quality image of Flutter's face thus far.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Walmart_(August)]]</ref>

*On 31 [[August 2025]], Chris and presumably Flutter are spotted eating at the Red Lobster in Lynchburg.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Red_Lobster]]</ref>

*On 7 [[September 2025]], Chris and Flutter are spotted at a Barnes and Noble in Roanoke, VA.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Valley_View_Mall]]</ref>

*On an unknown date in [[September 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Finland.<ref>[[Sightings_(2025)#Finland (September)]]</ref>

*On 29 [[December 2025]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Forum Shopping Centre in Finland riding an escalator.<ref>[[Sightings (2025)#Forum Shopping Centre, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

===2026===
*On 22 [[May 2026]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in Forum Shopping Centre in Finland again.<ref>[[Sightings (2026)#Forum, Helsinki Finland]]</ref>
*On 5 [[June 2026]], Chris and Flutter were spotted in the Mall of Tripla going to see ''The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act'' at the cinema there.<ref>[[Sightings (2026)#Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland]]</ref>

==Wariness==
Since late [[December 2023]], when Flutter returned to the spotlight, many people have joked about the inability of [[ween]]s to take a good photo of her. This has also led to speculation that she was trying to stay out of the spotlight of said weens to avoid harassment, especially when observers noted her self-awareness at some events that she went to with Chris.

The first strong signals of this came to light on [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond International Airport|December 20]], where she was noted by an observer to wear a face mask in public:
{{quoteboxgreen|yes I was on her flight, I noticed her almost immediately but she wore a mask the whole time, It was subconscious so I didn't think much of it other than "huh she looks familiar," but while she was leaving the airport chris was waiting for her he embraced her and said her name out loud, I was on the phone and couldn't make out what he said.}}
When the said person approached them later, Chris was against him taking pictures of themselves. The same behavior repeated [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|a day later]]:
{{quoteboxpurple|As they walked out Chris commented to a passing family “a family night, that’s nice” or something like that, and Egg had to pull him through the door. I asked Chris for a photo as he was walking out and he got PISSED. But I still shook Chris’ hand. Wish I could’ve gotten better photos but it was kind of a formal dinner.}}
He has also stated Flutter didn't seem to be mentally handicapped and took on a near [[Barbara Chandler|motherly role]] during the visit.
{{quoteboxpurple|Egg didn’t say a word to me, I passed their table at 2 points. She wasn’t noticeably mentally handicapped and seemed to be keeping Chris in check to some degree}}
During [[Animate! Raleigh]], Flutter was seen with all of her face covered up by a face mask, sunglasses and her hair. Observers also noted her obsessive self-awareness at the event.
{{quoteboxblue|I am legit annoyed that you people cannot be bothered to get one clear photo or video. How hard can it be?}}
{{quoteboxorange|Genuinely this has been more difficult than you’d imagine. Flutter appears to be quite vigilant and unwilling (obviously) to appear in anything, especially candids. With her proximity to Chris it is not surprising there is a lack of high def photos}}

{{quoteboxorange|i was legitimately right beside them on an escalator yesterday without realizing and genuinely she is so hard to see. she has such self awareness compared to chris it is insane}}

==Chris's Silence==
{{quote|That remains absolutely with no comment!|Chris, after being asked about Flutter and his Finland visits<ref>[[Waltah White Calls#Walt's call with cwc! 5/17/25]]</ref>}}

When he first spoke about her [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|shortly after returning to the Internet]], Chris only shared her nickname and the fact that she had reached out to him while he was [[Jail Saga|incarcerated]], and that they had met up in [[Lynchburg]] following his release.

In a [[May 2025]] [[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25|call with a ween]], Chris was asked directly about Flutter and proceeded to [[List of Chris's lies|lie]] about everything possibly related to her, including denying that he ever went to [[Finland]] with her or was learning Finnish on [[Duolingo]]. Instead he claimed Flutter lives in Philadelphia and is going to [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|college]] there, but was both unwilling and unable to provide any details when pressed further. He refused to give up her real name or even the first letter, even after being offered bribes of $50, $150 and purchases from his [[OfficialCWCmart|Etsy store]], stating simply, "Her name shall not be revealed."<ref>[[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25#Transcript]]</ref>

==Gallery==
===Sightings===
Below is a gallery of select photoshoots of Flutter with Chris.
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File:Foodlionflutter.png|At Food Lion.
File:Walmartflutter.png|At Walmart.
File:Flutter.png|At River Ridge Mall.
File:CaryNC4Jan2024.jpeg|[[Sightings (2024)#Cary,North Carolina|Cary, NC]].
File:Photos-from-earlier-today-v0-zrbilxihwqac1.jpg|[[Animate! Raleigh]].
File:Chris chan & flutter with security raleigh.jpeg|With the Raleigh convention security guards.
File:Chris-chan-kicked-out-of-animate-raleigh-v0-alm3dykgevac1 cropped.jpg|Denied entry into [[Animate! Raleigh]].
File:ChrisFlutterTJMaxx23March.png|[[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx|TJ Maxx in Lynchburg]].
File:Chris and Flutter at Linnanmäki 30 April 2024 (cropped screencap).jpg|[[Sightings (2024)#Linnanmäki, Helsinki, Finland|At Linnanmäki in Helsinki, Finland]].
File:Chris&FlutterRidgeRiverMallJune2024.jpeg|[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (June)|At River Ridge Mall]].
File:Walmart 5Jul2024 2 (cropped).jpg|In parking lot at Walmart.
File:Walmart 5Jul2024 3 (cropped).png|In line at Walmart.
File:Walmart 12Jul2024 1 (cropped).jpg|At Walmart meat section.
File:CWC Flutter 13Aug2024 2.jpg|[[Sightings (2024)#River Ridge Mall (August)|At River Ridge Mall]].
File:Cwcflutterface-aug2024.jpg|At Valley View Mall.
File:22 August 2024 Chris and Flutter at Goodwill2.png|At Goodwill.
File:Chris and Flutter at Mall of Tripla, Helsinki, Finland.mov00001.png|At Mall of Tripla in Helsinki, Finland.
File:14 February 2025 Chris and Flutter in pet store1.jpg|At Pet & Aquatic Warehouse.
File:Chris flutter rauma 2.jpg|[[Sightings (2025)#Rauma International Market, Rauma, Finland|Wearing matching outfits with Chris in Rauma, Finland]].
File:CWC Flutter Sighting by BlockedByDaylight 1.mp400001.png|Walmart, [[August 2025]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Walmart Sighting, August 2025]]</ref>
File:May22 2026 Helsinki cropped.jpeg|In Forum Shopping Centre, Finland, [[May 2026]]
</ref>
</gallery>
</center>

===Other===
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File:FlutterMinecraftSkin.jpg|A [[Minecraft]] skin of Flutter seen in [[June_2024_livestreams#Christ_Chan_Live_Stream:_OG_Cwcville_(Cwcville)-60_Minecraft|a livestream]].
</gallery>
</center>

==See Also==
*[[The Wallflower]] - A prior gal-pal that Chris attempted to keep under wraps.

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File:ChrisAndFlutterHeightApproximation.png

2026-07-17T00:49:00Z

FullNameUnknown: Sperged out today and made this. I put the file into a height approximator and got around the same result. This is actually comically short. Assuming that Flutter is indeed an adult, around 99% of women would be taller than her. Clinically, it is grounds for a diagnosis of dwarfism. It might grounds to investigate for diseases such as Turner Syndrome.

== Summary ==
Sperged out today and made this. I put the file into a height approximator and got around the same result.

This is actually comically short. Assuming that Flutter is indeed an adult, around 99% of women would be taller than her. Clinically, it is grounds for a diagnosis of dwarfism. It might grounds to investigate for diseases such as Turner Syndrome.