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Chris and sex

2026-05-10T14:19:18Z

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[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] has a warped view of '''sexual intercourse''' (a.k.a. '''hanky-panky''' and '''romps in the hay'''<ref>Chris has used this phrase since approximately [[2018]], including in [[:File:SchuComic12-9Page29.JPG|Sonichu #12-9]], on his [[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts|polyamorous marriage]] and on his [[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris texts about incest with his mother|incest with his mother]].</ref>), mostly stemming from stunted sexual development, [[Borb|a sheltered upbringing]], and the [[Autism|twisted, disjointed]] [[Chris and reality|worldview]] he acquired as a result. He first developed an understanding of sex from watching softcore porn on HBO at around age 16. He describes pornographic films as "educational".<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#Chris Sets the Record STRAIGHT]]</ref>

==Knowledge of sex==
In his mind, Chris has mastered all there is to know about sex and now regards himself as a bit of a guru. He has said that kissing a woman is "magical and delightful... sweet and melting like ice cream or chocolate", a description he [[Things Chris has ripped off|stole]] from ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.<ref>[[Mailbag 18#He might as well be talking about how to pilot the space shuttle|Mailbag 18]]</ref> In truth, for much of the time he was presenting this advice Chris had yet to even kiss a girl.<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2">[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

What he knows about sex he's picked up from rudimentary [[high school]] [[Dating education|sex education]] or [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|pornography]]. This has engendered many false beliefs in Chris, which he sticks to religiously. Readers who brave his [[Chris Sex Logs|sex chat logs]] should immediately notice what's going wrong – Chris's fantasies are merely recreations of what he's seen in pornos, rather than plausible sexual experiences. For example, he believed that [[Kacey]] would welcome a brutal tit-fucking followed by load after load of [[navy]] to the face.<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>

Other examples of Chris's crude misconceptions about sex abound. He mimics female porn stars' sex positions, spreads an imaginary vagina a yard across,<ref name="JR Eyes">[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]</ref> thinks that the clitoris is located on the female body where the [[wikipedia:Perineum|perineum]] is located on the male one<ref>[[September 2014 Facebook Posts#Introducing the Un-clit]]</ref> and believes that electric shocks to the vagina are pleasurable.<ref name="Cums cat">[[CWC Cums for a Cat]]</ref> He also seems to believe that a woman's vagina is higher up on the woman's body that it actually is;<ref>[[:File:SchuComicSP3P7.jpg]]</ref> this is undoubtedly due to his experience with his [[Kimmi|sex]] [[Officer Nasty|dolls]]. The "missionary cowgirl" position mentioned in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] is a contradiction in terms. He can't even get the most basic double entendres correct, wearing a terrible [[CWC Cola|Mountain Dew]] parody shirt, thinking it's an invitation for women to try and ride his broken [[penis]].<ref name="JR Eyes" /> He thinks that his [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] is a precious and sought-after treasure which women will come in droves to take (he even went so far as to use it as a bargaining chip to haggle with a prostitute), and believes that [[mass debating]] ultimately makes him better at sex.

With Chris's [[Chris and English|slippery grip on language]], he is also noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Chris told Ivy he had a "sticky dream" about her. When Ivy asked if he meant a wet dream, he replied, "No, that's when you pee yourself, silly!"<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref> While he may have the best of intentions, his word choices unwittingly present him in a very bad light. He refuses to use common terms – either medical or slang – for sex organs, instead calling penises "[[duck]]s" and "[[pickle]]s", and vaginas and vulvae "[[china]]" or "tom-tom" out of a childish aversion borne of disgust.

In [[August 2011]], Chris said he is into female domination.<ref>[[Calling Out Jack Thaddius - Ahuviya]]</ref> (going as far as to draw Sonichu and Rosechu performing the act in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]).

===Reproductive Biology===
{{Main|Biology#Reproductive biology}}
[[File:Female anatomy according to chris.png|thumb|A moderately detailed portrait of what Chris probably thought females looked like before meeting [[Mia Hamm]].]]

Chris's understanding of reproductive biology had primarily come from what he had seen in porn.

===Books on the Subject===

Chris had obtained a copy of the book [[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]], which he had told [[Null]] about on 5 July 2021. As a result of reading this book, Chris came to believe that he could mentor people about dating and sex. Chris had especially shown this in conversations he had with [[Fiona]], where he attempts to advise her on how to approach a potential lover when she goes off to college.<ref>[[Fiona DMs#Dating Advice]]</ref> Chris had seemed to twist or misunderstand many of the passages found in this book, taking it to be a book on how to perform sex on disabled people, rather than one ''for'' disabled people.

==Moral Basis==

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===Straightness===

{{main|Chris and sexuality}}

Chris's stance on sexual orientations has always been iffy at best. Prior to his transition to a Tomgirl, he had shown a fear of losing his straightness. This obsessive demand for people to "STAY STRAIGHT" has been one of the first noted and exploited aspects of Chris since his discovery. Many trolls had jokingly declared this as an indicator of him repressing his sexuality in some fashion, only for it to end up being the case in the long run.

===Religion===
[[Image:DatingEducation.jpg|thumb|250px|69ing? Intercourse? ''Really''? In a ''children's'' comic? Because they should know all about this stuff.]]
{{quote|You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery: but I say to you, that whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.|Matthew 5:27-28}}

Sex was at one point viewed, through Chris's eyes, by the Bible – or rather, by his religion, as [[Chris and religion|Chris's Biblical knowledge is extremely poor]]. Chris was very strict on keeping to the word of God when male homosexuality is the topic, vehemently stating that he ''hates'' homos, but with no hesitation views lesbian porn and approves of it [[Mass debating|masturbatorily]]<ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>, and as of 2014, seemed to be adopting a more progressive view of even gay men and their rights (albeit begrudgingly). In 2015, Chris made a video lamenting his "past" homophobia and clarifying that he apparently now has great liking and admiration for male homosexuality, [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retconning]] the vicious homophobic tirade of [[Sonichu 10]] into a bizarre zombie apocalypse, implying that he realizes religion is not an excuse for discrimination. Another violation of his Christian morals is the fact that he planned on losing his virginity on the [[Third date|third or fourth date]] with his true sweetheart (read: first girl who will last three dates with Chris). This is, of course, a blatant violation of the Christian value of marriage before sex.

The Bible also frowns upon [[Nudes|pornographers]], of which he is very guilty and holds no apparent [[Chris and remorse|remorse]]. These double standards cause many trolls to despise him, seeing as he selectively chooses what to denigrate and what is OK in his own personal dogma, although, to be somewhat fair, he's far from the only follower of the Christian faith to do so.

Despite people pointing out these contradictions, even quoting passages of the Bible, he will deny it. This is most likely because he goes to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|a very liberal church]], so any question about premarital sex is probably interpreted quite liberally, and Chris believes that his church and ''only'' his church defines the entirety of religious morality - as it applies to him, anyway. When Chris asks Rocky about passages quoted to him by [[trolls]], she only fuels his à la carte Christianity by saying things like sex before marriage is okay as long as the couple is in love, which contradicts Christian doctrine.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> In summary, Chris picked and chose what parts of Christian doctrine suited his own prejudices, and disregarded the ones that would interfere with his [[Love Quest]].

===Sexism===

Chris seems to consider a female sexual partner as a rubber stamp over his (alleged) sexual orientation. Flying in the face of any moral system he's ever held, he announced his desire to upload on the Internet a video of his first full sexual intercourse, even if his hypothetical partner refused to consent to it.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)]]</ref> After further prodding, he added that he would simply hide the camera, record the event without her consent and blur her face before making the video public.<ref>[[Mailbag 31#In which Chris crosses yet another line]]</ref> In [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]], Chris indicated that if a woman accused him of being gay in person, he would sexually assault them by demanding they submit to a kiss and allow him to videotape the act, possibly as a way of proving his straightness.

For Chris, as stated above, [[Women's rights|a woman is just a living, sentient sex-toy]], existing only to validate him as a heterosexual. As long as they're straight and younger than him, of course.

==Chris in the act==
[[Image:JULAY-small.gif|frame|right|Christian [[For Julie's Eyes Only|professing his love]] for "[[BlueSpike|Julie]]".]]
Leaked tapes of Chris's audio sex with [[Julie]], and the infamous sex tape with Kimmi, shed light on Chris as he acts out on his fantasies. In particular, the sex tape shows how Chris assumes ''female'' positions, notably riding on top of Kimmi in a scene straight out of a porno. It seems that Chris's entirety of knowledge about sexual relationships stems from ignoring the [[JERKS|men]] in pornography (due to fear of becoming a [[homo]]).

However, it should be noted that in most of Chris's Rule 34 drawings the characters do tend to assume positions which are fitting for their gender, including Chris.<ref>For examples, see the [[Sonichu 8#The uncensored scenes|uncensored panels]] from Sonichu 8, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]], the [[Giant Penis Comic]] and [[Jackie E-mails 14]].</ref> It might be that Chris adopts female positions not so much due to ignorance regarding sex, but more because of [[Tomgirl pictures|his identification with the opposite gender]].

Chris's view of cunnilingus, put on display in [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]], involves slobbering all over a woman's vagina. Despite all his knowledge of porn, he fails to see how cunnilingus is more than just slobbering, but proper tongue action to stimulate the clitoris.

In the leaked media, Chris displays that he may have some issues with delayed orgasm. This can either be physiological (bent duck, [[Obesity|being overweight]], lack of endurance) or psychological in nature (performance anxiety, high expectations, intrusive homoerotic thoughts, subconscious guilt about sex), or a combination thereof.

In the 2018 [[All Star]] video, Chris is seen tugging his [[duck]] along to the song. He remains flaccid the entire time; his inability to get an erection is possibly a side effect of [[Transgender|HRT]]. If this is true, Chris will certainly not be getting any hanky-panky in the future.

During his time losing his virginity to a [[Mia Hamm| prostitute]] its worth noting that he first received a blowjob, then demanded cowgirl before possible missionary later; [[Obesity| but luckily for her]] he couldn't last very long and finished just after she rid him for a bit; this is important as it points to 2 big problems with Chris; first his lack of self control due to him [[Navy| finishing]] so quickly, second is that he ordered possibly the laziest sex position in the book, with Mia doing pretty much all of the physical exercise with Chris being a lazy fuck.

Chris's second sexual partner in his life was none other than his own [[Barb|mom]]. The exact details of the [[Affair with Mother|incestuous affair]] are a bit vague, but needless to say, every act described by Chris is extremely disturbing and not for the faint of heart.

===Contraceptives===

{{quote|Confidentially, I wear a condom during the second half when I masturbate; I use Trojan or LIfestyles brand (Trojan mostly)

And I used condoms when I fooled with the [[Officer Nasty|L.D.s]] as well.|Chris, [[Jackie E-mails 1]]}}

Condoms, or as Chris has called them "'''raincoats'''", are thin latex coverings worn over a man's penis for the purpose of birth control. However, Chris seemed to understand the condom as more of a symbol for promoting safe premarital sex rather than as a contraceptive. Aside from promoting safe sex and justifying premarital sex, Chris has also drawn his male Sonichu characters with condoms in order to censor their penises. Chris has stated that before his third date with [[Blanca]], he'd wear a condom for the first two times they've had sex, only to have unprotected sex by the third date, showing that he also believed that condoms serve more as some kind of gateway to pregnancy. Chris had a box of chocolate-flavored condoms that he purchased to be prepared for his first time. Chris had given a few different dates for when they expired; sometime in 2010<ref>[[Chris Sex Logs#Condoms]]</ref> and January 2013.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>

Chris reportedly also wore a condom that was flavored like green apple while engaging in sex with Mia Hamm.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts]]</ref> It's not entirely clear whether the condom was entirely successful or not due to him mentioning that a "Smidge" of Navy had leaked out after their first round together, meaning he either kept them in his pocket far too long, the condom didn't fit entirely properly around his [[Duck]], he became flaccid way faster than he should have, or he's an idiot who mistook a smear of lube or vaginal discharge for semen; knowing Chris any of these [[Chris and negligence| explanations]] [[Duck| are]] [[Health| equally]] [[Slow in the minds| possible]]. For those wondering, however, it's probably safe to assume [[Mia Hamm]] won't be harboring [[Crystal]] any time soon; even by some non-existent chance he managed to get her pregnant, she would have likely been on the pill anyway.

Chris would later reveal to [[Null]] that he was using a condom while having sex with his "over 50 girlfriend", who was later discovered to be [[Barb]]. While ploughing a woman like Barb would cause anyone to instinctively wear the thickest condom available, then get themselves tested a few times over just in case (all of which Chris did); realistically there wasn't much reason to do so since the risk of STD and pregnancy was non-existent since both were [[Chris and health|(at least where STIs were concerned)]] clean and both were completely infertile.

== Sexual Frustration ==

Chris has had a yearning to have a girl to have sex with since the start of his [[Love Quest]] in 2003. The first manifestation of this was when he was clawing at [[Megan]], where his pining for her went ignored or denied as any sane person would.

Throughout the first half of [[2021]], Chris' search for a sweetheart had resumed. Chris has expressed great sexual frustration, yearning for a physical girl to have sex with over his [[polyamorous marriage| fictitious sweethearts]]. According to [[Kyle]], at some point in [[February 2021]], Chris expressed interest in wanting to get a hooker,<ref name=feb21hooker>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Chris wanted a hooker]]</ref> something which Chris was once not in favor of.

In [[March 2021]], following a masturbation session, Chris had a conversation with the [[Watchmen]], in which he discussed how, despite not disliking or disapproving of the act of masturbation, he felt that he was [[Gender dysphoria|born the wrong gender]].<ref>[[Masturbation discussions#16 March 2021]]</ref> In a [[May 2021]] conversation, he claimed that over the years, he would continually consume pornography and masturbate to get "the hard-on". He expressed how, until recently, he felt that he had not fully explored his sexuality, nor any other means to stimulate himself, and even then claims to still overthink the process of [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|inserting a dildo or vibrator up his ass]]. <ref>[[Masturbation discussions#18 May 2021]]</ref>

==Means of Coping with Sexual Frustration==

=== Masturbation and Porn Consumption ===

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Chris has had a history of masturbating, starting when he discovered he could stimulate his penis by rubbing it against a washcloth when he was 15. In 2009, he made use of a washbasin in the kitchen of his house while performing the act, and had claimed in the [[Ivy Q&A]] that he made use of a pillow that he'd fold in half, treating it as a masturbation tool. Since then, masturbation has been an outlet for Chris's sexual frustration.

In a [[February 2021]] conversation with [[The Watchmen]], Chris said "Masturbation takes Fifteen LONG, Tiring and Annoying Minutes, with my body, regardless of whatever method or tool utilized. And it has literally been that long in unenjoyable time since I first rubbed one out while my body was 15. And that was Looooong before I ever started on HRT in 2016. So, not only is masturbation out of the question, it's more misery-inducing."<ref>[[Masturbation discussions#27 February 2021]]</ref>

=== Drawing Porn ===

{{quote|As for the drawing itself, I've realized that it was done not only out of inspired fantasy, angst against E.D., and love for you, but also a major release for my crazy, mixed-up hormones. If I didn't have the foresight to put my pent-up frustrations and feelings in the form of something, I might have become an abusive maniac, so thank god for allowing me to release my bottled up frustrations in a more positive, yet not so "Politically Correct", and not physically hurting others, method.|Chris on how he might have approached Megan had he not drawn [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]]<ref>[[Megan Emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>}}

Chris has, on more than one occasion, drawn pornography of his own in order to release sexual tension. Chris claimed to [[Megan Schroeder]] that he had, in part, created the controversial drawing [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] because he felt that doing so would inhibit him from sexually advancing on Megan, as he had feelings for her, and would have become an "abusive maniac" had he not created the drawing. The fact that Chris had decided to use what was essentially a product of his own pent-up sexual frustration as a means of attempting to get his Encyclopedia Dramatica page down only seemed to leave a much more bitter taste in Megan's mouth after announcing this.

During the period when Chris became much more sexually frustrated in 2021, he displayed this more openly towards friends, and even on his social media. He sent a picture of his Chris Chan Sonichu persona wearing a [[negligee]] while giving a seductive look to [[The WCT]], and talked to him about how arousing it is to wear one.

=== Sex Toys ===

Chris has made [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|numberable purchases]] for sex toys, porn DVDs, and inflatable sex dolls.

=== Relationships with OCs ===

For a time, partly due to influence from the [[Idea Guys]], Chris has temporarily given up on his search for a sweetheart in pursuit of being in relationships with fictional characters instead.

=== Wet Dreams ===

Chris has also had his share of wet [[dreams]], particularly whenever he had held strong feelings for his flavor of the week. The first of these wet dreams was of [[PandaHalo]], where he dreamed about both of them getting naked, having sex, and then Chris finally climaxing. Chris also had a dream where he was in a labyrinth filled with water, where he met a woman and had sex with her. Chris recreated the dream in a Flipnote animation. The strangest of these was one where Chris claims that he "almost had sex" with the Sonic character Sally Acorn, which had left him sexually frustrated afterwards. Chris talks about another wet dream he had two months later, this time of the ''Sonic X'' character Chris Thorndyke aged-up and "handsome". Chris also expresses the sexual frustration he felt after waking up from this dream, too.<ref>[[MKR DMs]]</ref>

=== Sex with Mother ===

It had long been joked and speculated by trolls, christorians, and observers alike that Chris has much more intimate feelings with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] than he let on. These speculations were confirmed in July of 2021 when screenshots were leaked of Chris detailing to Isabella Loretta Janke his incestuous exploits. Null later revealed worrying conversations he had previously with Chris about a new "over 50's" girlfriend he had been using condoms with. We will leave it to you to put 2 and 2 together.

==Sexual Deviance==

Chris's skewed basis of his understanding of sex leads him to exhibit several instances of sexual deviance.

===Inappropriate Interactions with Women===

To say the least, Chris's social interactions hinder his ability to understand sex etiquette.

===Pedophilia and Age Disparity===
{{main|Pedofork}}
{{Wise|he is a pedophile.}}

Pedophilia has always been a touchy subject regarding Chris. Chris had at first attempted to deny all claims that he was a pedophile, even creating [[CWC-isms|a new word]], "pedofork", as a sort of comeback to those who referred to him as such, apparently being created solely to make the word rhyme in "I'm not a pedofork, you dorks". Chris has tried to retain this image by removing any references that may be interpreted as him being a pedophile in his Sonichu comics. Most infamously, Chris had characters in [[Sonichu 8]] make comments about "dumb laws" when [[Zapina Rosechu]], who is 14 years old, asks to participate in stripping for Women's Rights.

At a glance, Chris seems to adhere to the age of consent, once advertising on his [[Attraction Sign|Attraction Signs]] that he would only date someone of legal age. Chris, however, does not seem to understand or care about how creepy it is for him to be attracted to women who are half his age, and seems to see it as yet another barrier for his Love Quest. Chris has cat-called an artist whom he believed to be "entering young adulthood", has made sexual remarks towards [[Bella]], despite her having no interest in Chris, and has shown arousal when [[Fiona]] exposed herself to him.

===Necrophillia===

While Chris himself has never engaged in sex with a dead body to the best of anyone's knowledge, Chris has [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022|recently]] been referring to barb as a zombie like husk since even before they began engaging in [[Affair with Mother|their affair]] and that her soul has already moved on to her rosechu form in C-197; complaining that her lifeless body was still clinging to life and preventing him from going back home. Meaning that Chris is at least partially comfortable with the idea of having sex with his dead mother.

In another disturbing incident, Chris recorded [[It's not that cold]], where he proceeds to imitate {{w|Buffalo Bill (character)|Buffalo Bill}} and pretends to get inside his dead dog [[Patti Chandler|Patti]]. While not engaging in sex with her, he does take a bizarre sexual pleasure in wearing her corpse (or at least pretending to do so, since he was too lazy to actually dig her up).

===Bestiality===
{{quote|I can imagine myself doing it with a [[Patti-chan|collie]] at least. you know, like Lassie.|Chris to [[PandaHalo]]<ref name="collie">[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>}}
[[File:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Run, Patti, run!]]
[[File:Super-mode.jpg|thumb|left|90px|Chris, sporting a [[ECV 00002‎|homemade fursuit]].]]

In [[December 2008]], Chris told [[PandaHalo]] he would be willing to have sex with a female dog for her.<ref name="collie" /> However, in his [[Chris-chan Discusses...‎|interview with ScrewAttackEurope]], Chris says he's against bestiality, then hoists himself by his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form; so technically this isn't bestiality, as they're animals having sex with each other.

Chris suggested that Brian from ''[[Family Guy]]'' be paired up with "any sexy breed" of dog.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20161007175309/http://archive.sonichu.com:80/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy The Family Guy article on CWCipedia]</ref>

In [[The Red-Maned Deer]], Chris recites a poem he wrote about having sex with a deer, but at the end of it states, "This was, in fact, NOT an act of bestiality. For you see, the Red-Maned Deer I have been communicating with and tracking, is really...my lo-my womanly sweetheart, named [[Jacklyn Romy]]."<ref>[[The Red-Maned Deer]]</ref> The fact that the deer is Jackie is obvious, but in spite of this, he explicitly stated that it was her at the end.

In a photo of the [[Rental House]] from June 2014, the Chandler minivan bears a bumper sticker reading "I Sleep with Dogs".<ref>[[:File:Chandler Cars 1600w.jpg]]</ref> What exactly this means is yet to be determined.

====Is Chris a furry?====
{{Wise|he is a furry.}}

{{quote|I am half-Sonichu and half-Pokemon, thus making me a "furry".|Chris, May 2018, during the aftermath of the [[Idea Guys]] saga.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20220209025754/https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997320832040005634</ref>}}

Whether Chris could actually be considered a furry was debated for a long time.<ref>From [[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris tries to leave|the Sarah May Skype Logs]]: [7:17:25] '''Sarah May''': Did you feel sexually aroused when you drew them? [7:17:34] '''Christopher C.W.C.''': a bit.</ref> There are some things that point in that direction. Chris certainly gets aroused by provocative drawings of anthropomorphic animals (at least when they are [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] characters), and he has drawn unsolicited porn of his own Sonic recolors. [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] is in many ways similar to a fursona, and Chris even role-played the character while cybering with [[Julie]].<ref name="Cums cat" /> Finally, in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], Chris and [[Ivy]] both transform into anthropomorphic animals during the act of sex. On the other hand, [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] noted that Chris was prejudiced against a male furry who patronized [[The GAMe PLACe]] because he happened to be [[homos|gay]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> Given the high proportion of gay and bisexual men in the furry fandom, Classic Chris would almost certainly have been uncomfortable at any kind of furry gathering.

In [[May 2018]], under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris declared himself a furry.<ref>[[May_2018_social_media_posts#Michael_Hirtes_BTFO]]</ref> The Idea Guys also [[brainwashed]] him into believing he is in a [[polyamorous marriage]] with his anthropomorphic [[imaginary friends]] [[Magi-Chan]] and [[Cryzel]], and Chris believes he has had sexual relations with these imaginary friends.<ref>[[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts]]</ref>

In [[2019]], Chris added a card based on [[Patti Chandler|his childhood dog]] to [[Sonichu Deck|his custom]] [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|TSSSF]] deck, depicting [[Patti-Chan]] with a crop-top, unlike previous drawings of her with a mere covering around her waist.

Also of note is that in [[July 2020|mid-2020]], he binge-watched the [[Netflix]] anime ''BNA: Brand New Animal'', commenting it was "very good" but said nothing further than that.<ref>[[July_2020_social_media_posts#Animu]]</ref>

While Chris may loosely qualify as a furry due to his obsession with anthropomorphic [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon]] and [[My Little Pony|ponies]], he has never shown an interest in the broader furry community.

===Oedipus Complex===
In simple terms, it is the attachment of the child to the parent of the opposite sex, accompanied by envious and aggressive feelings toward the parent of the same sex.<ref> https://www.uvm.edu/~jbailly/courses/tragedy/student%20second%20documents/Oedipus%20Complex.html#:~:text=Definition,parent%20of%20the%20same%20sex.</ref> Chris has exuded such an Oedipus Complex for years, given his feelings for his mother coddling him while also showing resentment for Bob now and then, especially whenever he’d scold Chris for his antics.
See below for more details:
* [[Affair with Mother]]
* [[Chris_and_sex#Sex_with_Mother|Sex with Mother]]
* [[Chris_and_sex#Dreams_of_sex_with_Barb|Dreams of sex with Barb]]
* [[Chris_and_sex#Actual_sex_with_Barb|Actual sex with Barb]]

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==Prostitution==
[[Image:Virginbreaker.png|thumb|Chris's leaked [[Facebook]] announcement that he had lost his virginity. Initially igniting a firestorm of controversy, Chris himself let it slip that she was found "somewhere on the backpage" soon after.]]

Given how badly Chris wanted to lose his virginity, many observers have wondered why he didn't immediately spend some of his [[tugboat]] on a prostitute. [[Mumble 4]], from [[February 2009]], answered that question for a while. There, Chris explained that paying for sex would render the act "meaningless," and he was – in a rare display of common sense – afraid of contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

Needs must as the devil drives, though. While being blackmailed by [[Jack Thaddeus]] in the summer of [[2009]], Chris attempted to solicit the services of a [[Craigslist]] prostitute to fuck on camera so he could recover his hacked [[PlayStation Network]] accounts. After describing his personal problems to the prostitute, she hung up on him. Chris was apparently trying to get free sex from the hooker with long, rambling stories about his horrible life to try to gain sympathy. He was genuinely shocked when she didn't offer to fuck him out of pity, unaware that prostitutes, by definition, only have sex with men for money.

Previously, in [[March 2009]], [[Bryan Bash]] had sent a trio of prostitutes to [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]] so he would no longer be a virgin with rage. [[Hooker incident|Hilarity ensued]].

By the beginning of [[2010]], Chris's views on prostitution had further softened. According to his [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|conversations with Vivian Gee]], around the turn of the year, he was attempting to save $100 out of his monthly budget to buy himself a whore for his 28th [[birthday]]. This, presumably, was the "hundred dollars for a damn hooker" he referred to when [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|begging the Wallflower for sex]] on YouTube in [[March 2010]].

Between [[April 2010|April]] and [[July 2010]], under the name of [[Carlos Chantor]], Chris tried to offer himself up as a male escort. He described himself as "[[Chris and reality|Experienced for Her Pleasure]]", with an [[obesity|average]] body type.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref>

Later, under the guise of his troll persona [[JenkinsJinkies]], Chris attempted to acquire the contact details of the hookers Brian Bash had previously hired. While it is possible that Chris merely wished to make his disguise more convincing by implying that a 14-year-old Jenkins wished to hire prostitutes, it seems far more likely that Chris actually was considering hiring Brian's girls.

In [[April 2012]], a [[Facebook]] status leaked in which Chris announced that he was no longer a virgin. Suspicion arose that this was due to the help of a hooker. Chris provided further evidence suggesting that [[Mia Hamm|the girl]] was a prostitute on 1 [[May 2012|May]] when he wrote in a [[Facebook#Hey, Trollies|Facebook note]] that his virgin breaker can be found "somewhere on the [[Wikipedia:Backpage|backpage]]", a website known for featuring sex service ads.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210206132219/https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/opinion/kristof-not-quite-a-teen-yet-sold-for-sex.html?_r=1]</ref> On 28/29 June 2014 Chris openly admitted that his first time was with a prostitute, and that he had sex with her twice.<ref>[[Other documents#Chris's wingman]]</ref>

In [[June 2016]], Chris himself made [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|another attempt]] to enter the prostitution business, now as a [[Tomgirl|trans woman]], going by the name "Stephanie Bustcakes". Predictably, Chris was unable to find any "women of any orientation" who were interested in paying him $100 to have sex either "one way or the lesbian way", and the Stephanie Bustcakes persona has not yet reappeared.

[[File:ChrisChanSexForMoney.png|thumb|200px]]
On 24 April 2018, while under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], who had allegedly been extorting him out of thousands of dollars, Chris announced:<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Will provide house tour and suck dicks for money]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Anyone living locally to me in Virginia, or visiting in Charlottesville, I’ll give y’all BJs for money too. Serious.}}

A fan on Twitter messaged him about it. In their conversation, Chris said:<ref name=price>[[:File:NAME YOUR PRICE!!.jpeg]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Consider me a beginner with experience blowing [[Cryzel and Magi-Chan|my loving boyfriend]], willing to learn and adapt further. $50 for that BJ from this celeb; if he wants butt sex, that will be $100. Cash only.}}

Chris told [[CWCProtectSquad]] member Tings Tingz that he was indeed serious about prostituting himself, had several offers, but had not taken on any customers. When asked if he would consider, Chris responded, "a little from Column 'A' and the latter from Column 'B'".<ref>[[Tings Tingz DMs#Prostitution post]]</ref>

After the [[Guard Dogs]] rescued Chris from the Idea Guys' influence, he reversed course and disavowed the prostitution messages on 7 May 2018, saying he had been coerced.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191107173201/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/993693423084318720</ref> He went further on 25 May, saying he had been forced to write such things, and implied the Idea Guys had been behind it.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Calling out the Idea Guys]]</ref>

According to [[Kyle]], in [[February 2021]], Chris wanted a hooker and asked Kyle to ask [[Null]] to get him one.<ref name=feb21hooker></ref>

==Incest==
{{See also|Affair with Mother}}
{{Split Off}}
{{Quote|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with [[Barbara Chandler|my mother]].|Chris, 2016}}

[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|Chris having sex with his "son," Sonichu, in order to fulfill a prophecy to bring Crystal into the world.]]

Chris has long been suspected of having unnatural feelings about [[sex]] and family.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal, Chris's imaginary twin sister in the comics. This charge infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck.

[[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]], Chris's imaginary twin sister, appeared as a [[:image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|"girlfriend" card]] he made for ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'', and her attractiveness and desirability are brought up several times in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] comics well after being established as Chris's twin. Chris has shown complete ignorance in matters incestuous before; his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are all related (despite their type and appearance differences, they all come from [[homos|Sonic and the same male Pikachu]] – apart from that fact, they were all created by Chris and acknowledge him as such – Sonichu and Rosechu calling him father), but many of them are paired off with one another (notably Sonichu/Rosechu, Bubbles/Blake, and Magi/Silvana – Simonla was technically made by someone else), banging and some even [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|having]] [[Sandy Rosechu|kids]]. Chris's own comic children are a form of incest, as Chris impregnated himself with his navy. Chris shrugs off [[Autism|all medical/science facts]] and lists the two as perfectly healthy and Autism Free.

Chris first expounded his views on incest to the internet on 31 [[January 2009]] during the [[Mumble 1|first Mumble chat]], when it was revealed that he did not fully understand the meaning of the word "incest". While he showed aversion toward incest in the chat, his condemnation of it was lukewarm, saying that he would only "definitely discourage that" and that lesbian incest is "possibly OK" due to no reproduction being involved. Compare this to his statements about male homosexuality from the same chat ("I hate homo males [...] I'd sooner have a [[Tomgirl Saga|sex change]] before I would ever turn into a homo") or to his statements about male homosexuality from earlier that month, saying that he would make it a crime and force its practitioners into having sex with members of the opposite gender.<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

A year later, Chris's views became staunch. When a correspondent in the [[Mailbag]] pointed out that Chris's state allows cousin marriage but not same-sex marriage, Chris furiously denied it and wrote, "Cousin-Marriage is just as Terrible and Unholy as MARRYING YOUR OWN MOTHER OR FATHER!"<ref>[[Common Questions#5 January 2010]]</ref> When another correspondent responded to Chris by saying that he is happily married to his cousin and that their marriage is indeed legal in Virginia, Chris answered him by saying he was destined to hell for his relationship,<ref>[[Mailbag 34#Good luck in hell]]</ref> not realizing that incest is shown in a positive light in [[Chris and religion|the Bible]]. When the subject came up again in the next mailbag, Chris said that sexual relations between cousins are just as wrong as incest between parents and their children or between siblings, and that all those relationships were condemned in the "same part" of the Bible,<ref>[[Mailbag 35#I think he wanted a specific verse]]</ref> which is not actually true.<ref> [https://web.archive.org/web/20051223102404/http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=religion]</ref>

===Incest fics===
In [[February 2010]], Chris notably did not react to [[:File:Fkinglie.png|an extremely NSFW ad of himself]] on the [[CWCipedia]] depicting himself fingering Barb [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|like he did with a former friend in a certain illustration]], despite reacting to [[I am Alive|an ad claiming that he was dead]].

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga, the troll convinced Chris that [[Magi-Chan]] foretold a prophecy in which [[Crystal]] would be born by Chris mating with Sonichu. He also informed Chris that if this were drawn, he wouldn't have to do it in real life. Chris complied<ref>https://archive.md/AL1PT</ref>. During the nonsensical [[Sonichu 13| issue 13]] of Sonichu, incest is unsurprisingly everywhere, from [[Chris Chan Sonichu]] getting married to [[Magichan]] to Chris and Sonichu raping each other.

To the [[Watchmen]], Chris chatted about how he was upset over the implications of incest in the ''Sonichu'' family, stating that he had written a piece to dispute the "ugh, Incest bullshit."<ref>[[Chats leaked by MKRs Bloody Chunks#Ugh, Incest]]</ref>

In a Facebook post from [[January 2020]], Chris reiterated his opposition to incest, writing "I, personally, seriously disapprove of incest and would never practice it at all" and "The Bottom Line is: Incest is Never 'Wincest' (Epic UGH!)".<ref>[[January 2020 social media posts#Incest is not wincest]]</ref>

In [[November 2023]], Chris replied to a [[Twitter]] post that asked him if he could list examples of what he meant by "strange ideas and dreams." Chris stated that he strongly disapproves of incest fan fictions involving himself and characters like [[Sonichu]] Prime and [[Rosechu]] Prime. He also criticized fan fictions with him and his [[mother]], He said some people thought about or wrote these stories before [[July 2021]] in reference to the Incest Call being released and his arrest, he claimed he does not support them and believes such ideas are wrong and warned that thinking about them could lead to negative consequences in other timelines or realities.<ref>[[November 2023 social media posts#Rant against incest fics]]</ref>

===Dreams of sex with Barb===
On 10 August 2016, Chris posted a [[Facebook statuses|response]] to a mother-son couple who were arrested for incest. He admitted to "[having] dreams of having sex with my mother" but "Never acting on them ever." Among other things, he also implied that incest "offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s)." All this is in stark contrast to his earlier condemnation of incest, which raises the question of whether Chris was being TRUE and HONEST but changed his opinion later thanks to his growing degeneracy, or the likelier possibility it was [[Chris and hypocrisy|all for show]].

{{quotebox|I have a few things to say in response to this article. Firstly, the child was over 18, and surely the mother has talked it out with him beforehand. The child might have had social problems, or a situation where socializing or going out to socialize with other people, was a Greater Difficulty. Financial situation to prevent paying someone else to come over and help out in the situation. Moreover, it was the lifelong affections between parent and child. Also, the mother probably could not bear any ovum for children anymore.
Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother.
Although incest is quite controversial topic, but there are circumstances where there would be not so much harm as one may think, feel or believe. The child is over 18; the mother is unable to have any more children at the time; birth control and protection is available and can be used (in a case of father/daughter, birth control Definitely should be used anyhow). Also, consider if the child is adopted; not as much biological.
Plus, this offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s). The schools can only teach from books; not so much practice. And Nobody wants to end up being a 20 or 30-plus year old Virgin. I know; That is a Huge, Enduring Pain.
Unless the sex act was abusive, hurtful, or Would result in an unwanted birth of a physical or mental challenged child, I would not judge or persecute the parent and child. I would encourage the child to socialize more; maybe make it easier for the child to meet more people his/her age.
Do Not send the mother and son to jail!}}

On 13 September 2019, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as Magi-Chan, Chris would describe Barb as a "guilty pleasure waifu."<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Barbara was more of a "guilty pleasure" waifu]]</ref>

===Actual sex with Barb===

While the prospect of Chris having sex with Barb was joked about for many years, most people did not believe Chris would actually go through with it. Before the [[Incest call]] was leaked, there were numerous warning signs of what was to come, mainly being the fact that Barb would force Chris to spoon her in bed for many years, and telling Mia Hamm that the sexual massage he gave her was the same that he gave his mother. Their actions around each other have indicated a history of incestuous interest; many just assumed that this was a combination of Chris's [[autism]] making him act inappropriately and Barb's infamously controlling behaviour.

After the incest calls were leaked, it was revealed that Chris had been engaging in regular sex with Barb every 3 nights or so since 27 June 2021. His "seduction" methods included giving her full body massages while making attempts to finger her, kissing her on the lips, with Barb refusing to open her mouth and Chris making "Psychic connections" with her before, during, and after their romps in the hay.

It's also noteworthy that Chris refers to Barb as "Barbie Chan" almost exclusively now; whether this has something to do with her supposed anime fanfiction characteristics, a bizarre pet name, or Chris trying to subconsciously distance himself from their familial bonds is unknown.

==Rape==
{{quote|It's no joke, it's REALLY no freakin' joke.|Chris on rape<ref>[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act Plus, Part 2, Crystal - 1]]</ref>}}

Chris was very apathetic about the idea of consent, and to a larger extent, the act of rape. When [[PandaHalo]] told him she was raped by [[Clyde Cash]], he reacted nonchalantly. He even thought it would be appropriate for Panda to ''move in'' with her rapist ([[Chris and religion|which is technically in line with certain archaic Christian principles]]), whom he called a "good man" for regretting the rape and for being willing to take care of the ensuing child.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> Later on, long after the PandaHalo saga was over, he would wish her and her rapist a happy marriage.<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#Sarah Cassandra McKenzie, A.K.A. PandaHalo]]</ref> In [[iPods Down and Listen Up]], he didn't seem to realize that his improvised lyrics detailed a sexual act that would almost certainly be construed by others as rape. Chris eventually compared his ordeals with the trolls, particularly during the Classic Era, to rape in his Facebook posts. (Since [[BlueSpike]]'s [[Julie Reveals Herself|most infamous incident]] involved an act that could be described as sexual abuse in front of several people, this is admittedly a fitting description.)

As far as ''Chris'' being a potential rapist is concerned, the situation was more complicated. For starters, as explained earlier, he admitted that he drew [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] to prevent himself from acting on his sexual impulses against [[Megan Schroeder]], who had previously scolded him for inappropriately touching her. During a particularly [[IRC (23 July 2009)|disturbing chat]], he ([[:File:BillRiley.jpg|incognito]]) suggested that the trolls try to convince him to rape [[Rocky Shoemaker]]. He also evidently saw no issue with rape by fraud (essentially having sex with someone while tricking them into believing you're somebody else, meaning they didn't consent with you) as seen with his comic book counterpart when he travels forwards in time to have sex with his future wife [[Lovely Weather]] in the guise of being his future self [[Transgender|(whom is definitely a different person in the future)]]. During the [[Kacey Calls]], he attempted unsuccessfully to lure her to his place in the guise of being [[Liquid Chris]], again seeing absolutely nothing wrong with that.

In all likelihood, though, these parts of his behavior are most likely explained by the keys to understanding his behavior overall: his ignorance about the world and his persecution complex cause him to be quite [[naïve]] about how bad rape actually is. With the Rocky situation above, he likely said that as part of an odd, roundabout scheme to get the trolls arrested, but it's still pretty fucked up that he'd even suggest something like this, let alone [[Honest Content|tell her about it after]].

In one of the [[Kacey Calls]], Chris states he believes that abortion in cases of rape should be the choice of the victim, and that they should not be pressured by others in their decision.

Despite joking about how uncomfortably close he was to his own mother, few actually believed that Chris had it in him to commit an act of rape. For instance, he tried to kiss [[Emily]] and gave up when she said no,<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#A precious farewell (1:29:35–1:31:10)]]</ref> showing that he does understand the importance of consent... Or at least, he ''used'' to. Unfortunately, it seems that as of 2014, he has decided that he won't take "no" for an answer, and basically ''molested'' [[Catherine#The Date|Catherine during their second outing]] by hugging her and burying his head in her breasts even after she flatly told him not to. This gets even more disturbing when you consider [[Catherine E-mails#It IS Your Fault!|this e-mail]], where Chris outright says that he's [[Chris and his ego|"entitled to a relationship"]]. Also not helping matters was Chris kissing multiple guests who posed with him at the [[TooManyGames]] convention regardless of consent, which ultimately [[List of places that have banned Chris|got him kicked out]].

Furthermore, it was argued that Chris didn't have a history of violence conducive to attempting sexual assault. Aside from his [[Death threats#Likelihood of Acting Out on Death Threats|habit of dishing out threats he can't possibly carry out]], [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with a car]], and [[26 December 2014|macing a manager in the chest]], Chris is physically [[Chris and health|very weak and unfit]], and simply could not overpower an able-bodied person – the only outcome of him attempting it would be a swift knee to the [[duck]] followed by a rousing round of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favorite game]].

Interestingly, Chris details in [[Announcement 06292016]] that he wants all men to stay an arm's length away from him. Along with showing the insecurities he possesses concerning men, Chris seems to think that he is [[Chris and his ego|an attractive enough]] [[Transgender|transwoman]] for [[Jacob Sockness|a man]] to consider raping him.

==See also==
* [[Affair with Mother]]
* [[China]]
* [[Chris and his ego]]
* [[Chris and sexuality]]
* [[Chris Sex Logs]]
* [[Duck]]
* [[Homos]]
* [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases]]
* [[Mass debating]]
* [[Naive]]
* [[Pickle]]
* [[Biology#Reproductive biology|Reproductive Biology]]
* [[Semen]]
* [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]]
* [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]]
* [[Women's rights]]

== References ==
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Chris and morality

2026-05-06T19:19:06Z

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'')<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>, he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick the Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[Virginia is for Virgins|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

Like other virtues, Chris has an extensive history of failure to obey his superiors. During the early to mid-2000's, Chris roused the ire of authority figures such as [[Mary Lee Walsh]], [[Manajerks|retail staff]] and [[Jerkops|police officers]] for using his [[Attraction Sign]] to find a [[Sweetheart]] whilst loitering. When these attempts at soliciting a relationship invariably led to getting rebuked or punished outright, he proceeded to portray them as part of [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|a villainous conspiracy]] for his self-insert and characters to defeat, whilst also disparaging police officers who wear a specific set of colors as cold-hearted fakes (and eventually denounce ''all'' police officers as evil).

Chris especially showed disobedience after getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] in [[2008]], making foolhardy efforts to get himself unbanned ([[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|one notable incident]] resulting in manager [[Michael Snyder]] calling 911) despite that it was made perfectly clear he was prohibited from ever going there again. [[2011|Over a year]] after a failed attempt at taking a photo of Snyder (purportedly to make a dartboard)<ref>[[6 June 2010#Video]]</ref> led to a run-in with the law, Chris attempted to reenter the store, later claiming to have thought new ownership meant he could get his ban repealed<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email]]</ref>, only to find Snyder still working there, ultimately leading to Chris and Barb committing vehicular assault and them both ending up in jail (before getting bailed out). At the trial several months later, upon being informed the plea bargain's terms included that Snyder's medical expenses were to be paid for, Chris begrudgingly agreed before openly referring to Snyder as a "thieving liar"<ref>[[This is how the Trial went#The_Trial.]]</ref>.

As for who he ''did'' obey, even that is debatable at best. In regards to his parents, Chris briefly argued with [[Bob]] [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|while trying to convince his trolls to remove copies of the house tour]], and he has criticized his father for starting arguments<ref>[[Animal Crossing Documentary]]</ref> and "annoy(ing) (him)"<ref>[[IRC (31 December 2008)]]</ref> (which could more likely have been Chris resisting attempts at calling him out for his childish disposition) and with [[Barb]], he was conditioned to obey her whims, ending up effectively as her servant once Bob died<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb and Chris]]</ref>. He would even fold to her threats of suicide, such that he and Bob let her clutter up the house<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb's Hoarding]]</ref> and he cancelled his planned trip to [[MAGfest]]<ref>[[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012#Borb vs MAGfest]]</ref>. He also considered [[Rocky Shoemaker]] to be more reliable than any qualified psychologist<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>, but even then failed to follow her advice, particularly in regards to not feeding trolls.

Interestingly, while Chris can be stubborn at the worst of times, his obedience of Barb at little to no provocation might have been the genesis of his tendency to [[Chris and manipulation|follow the instruction of trolls without a second thought]], thinking only of potential benefit he thinks he could get from it. For the longest time up until he got released from jail, Chris failed to learn that his unquestioning obedience of others could have consequences, by now ending up more paranoid and making efforts to be reclusive (albeit [[Sightings#Post-Jail|nigh-unable to avoid being sighted in public]]).

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
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==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and morality

2026-05-06T19:18:25Z

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'')<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>, he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick the Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[Virginia is for Virgins|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

Like other virtues, Chris has an extensive history of failure to obey his superiors. During the early to mid-2000's, Chris roused the ire of authority figures such as [[Mary Lee Walsh]], [[Manajerks|retail staff]] and [[Jerkops|police officers]] for using his [[Attraction Sign]] to find a [[Sweetheart]] whilst loitering. When these attempts at soliciting a relationship invariably led to getting rebuked or punished outright, he proceeded to portray them as part of [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|a villainous conspiracy]] for his self-insert and characters to defeat, whilst also disparaging police officers who wear a specific set of colors as cold-hearted fakes (and eventually denounce ''all'' police officers as evil).

Chris especially showed disobedience after getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] in [[2008]], making foolhardy efforts to get himself unbanned ([[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|one notable incident]] resulting in manager [[Michael Snyder]] calling 911) despite that it was made perfectly clear he was prohibited from ever going there again. [[2011|Over a year]] after a failed attempt at taking a photo of Snyder (purportedly to make a dartboard)<ref>[[6 June 2010#Video]]</ref> led to a run-in with the law, Chris attempted to reenter the store, later claiming to have thought new ownership meant he could get his ban repealed<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email]]</ref>, only to find Snyder still working there, ultimately leading to Chris and Barb committing vehicular assault and them both ending up in jail (before getting bailed out). At the trial several months later, upon being informed the plea bargain's terms included that Snyder's medical expenses were to be paid for, Chris begrudgingly agreed before openly referring to Snyder as a "thieving liar"<ref>[[This is how the Trial went#The_Trial.]]</ref>.

As for who he ''did'' obey, even that is debatable at best. In regards to his parents, Chris briefly argued with [[Bob]] while trying to convince his trolls to remove copies of the house tour, and he has criticized his father for starting arguments<ref>[[Animal Crossing Documentary]]</ref> and "annoy(ing) (him)"<ref>[[IRC (31 December 2008)]]</ref> (which could more likely have been Chris resisting attempts at calling him out for his childish disposition) and with [[Barb]], he was conditioned to obey her whims, ending up effectively as her servant once Bob died<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb and Chris]]</ref>. He would even fold to her threats of suicide, such that he and Bob let her clutter up the house<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb's Hoarding]]</ref> and he cancelled his planned trip to [[MAGfest]]<ref>[[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012#Borb vs MAGfest]]</ref>. He also considered [[Rocky Shoemaker]] to be more reliable than any qualified psychologist<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>, but even then failed to follow her advice, particularly in regards to not feeding trolls.

Interestingly, while Chris can be stubborn at the worst of times, his obedience of Barb at little to no provocation might have been the genesis of his tendency to [[Chris and manipulation|follow the instruction of trolls without a second thought]], thinking only of potential benefit he thinks he could get from it. For the longest time up until he got released from jail, Chris failed to learn that his unquestioning obedience of others could have consequences, by now ending up more paranoid and making efforts to be reclusive (albeit [[Sightings#Post-Jail|nigh-unable to avoid being sighted in public]]).

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'')<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>, he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick the Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[Virginia is for Virgins|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

Like other virtues, Chris has an extensive history of failure to obey his superiors. During the early to mid-2000's, Chris roused the ire of authority figures such as [[Mary Lee Walsh]], [[Manajerks|retail staff]] and [[Jerkops|police officers]] for using his [[Attraction Sign]] to find a [[Sweetheart]] whilst loitering. When these attempts at soliciting a relationship invariably led to getting rebuked or punished outright, he proceeded to portray them as part of [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|a villainous conspiracy]] for his self-insert and characters to defeat, whilst also disparaging police officers who wear a specific set of colors as cold-hearted fakes (and eventually denounce ''all'' police officers as evil).

Chris especially showed disobedience after getting banned from The GAMe PLACe in 2008, making foolhardy efforts to get himself unbanned (one notable incident resulting in manager Michael Snyder calling 911) despite that it was made perfectly clear he was prohibited from ever going there again. Over a year after a failed attempt at taking a photo of Snyder (purportedly to make a dartboard) led to a run-in with the law, Chris attempted to reenter the store, later claiming to have thought new ownership meant he could get his ban repealed, only to find Snyder still working there, ultimately leading to Chris and Barb committing vehicular assault and them both ending up in jail (before getting bailed out). At the trial several months later, upon being informed the plea bargain's terms included that Snyder's medical expenses were to be paid for, Chris begrudgingly agreed before openly referring to Snyder as a "thieving liar".

As for who he ''did'' obey, even that is debatable at best. In regards to his parents, Chris briefly argued with [[Bob]] while trying to convince his trolls to remove copies of the house tour, and he has criticized his father for starting arguments<ref>[[Animal Crossing Documentary]]</ref> and "annoy(ing) (him)"<ref>[[IRC (31 December 2008)]]</ref> (which could more likely have been Chris resisting attempts at calling him out for his childish disposition) and with [[Barb]], he was conditioned to obey her whims, ending up effectively as her servant once Bob died<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb and Chris]]</ref>. He would even fold to her threats of suicide, such that he and Bob let her clutter up the house<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb's Hoarding]]</ref> and he cancelled his planned trip to [[MAGfest]]<ref>[[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012#Borb vs MAGfest]]</ref>. He also considered [[Rocky Shoemaker]] to be more reliable than any qualified psychologist<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>, but even then failed to follow her advice, particularly in regards to not feeding trolls.

Interestingly, while Chris can be stubborn at the worst of times, his obedience of Barb at little to no provocation might have been the genesis of his tendency to [[Chris and manipulation|follow the instruction of trolls without a second thought]], thinking only of potential benefit he thinks he could get from it. For the longest time up until he got released from jail, Chris failed to learn that his unquestioning obedience of others could have consequences, by now ending up more paranoid and making efforts to be reclusive (albeit [[Sightings#Post-Jail|nigh-unable to avoid being sighted in public]]).

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and morality

2026-05-05T21:45:55Z

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'')<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>, he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick the Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[Virginia is for Virgins|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

Like other virtues, Chris has an extensive history of failure to obey his superiors. During the early to mid-2000's, Chris roused the ire of authority figures such as [[Mary Lee Walsh]], [[Manajerks|retail staff]] and [[Jerkops|police officers]] for using his [[Attraction Sign]] to find a [[Sweetheart]] whilst loitering. When these attempts at soliciting a relationship invariably led to getting rebuked or punished outright, he proceeded to portray them as part of [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|a villainous conspiracy]] for his self-insert and characters to defeat, whilst also disparaging police officers who wear a specific set of colors as cold-hearted fakes (and eventually denounce ''all'' police officers as evil).

Chris especially showed disobedience after getting banned from The GAMe PLACe in 2008, making foolhardy efforts to get himself unbanned (one notable incident resulting in manager Michael Snyder calling 911) despite that it was made perfectly clear he was prohibited from ever going there again. Over a year after a failed attempt at taking a photo of Snyder (purportedly to make a dartboard) led to a run-in with the law, Chris attempted to reenter the store, later claiming to have thought new ownership meant he could get his ban repealed, only to find Snyder still working there, ultimately leading to Chris and Barb committing vehicular assault and them both ending up in jail (before getting bailed out). At the trial several months later, upon being informed the plea bargain's terms included that Snyder's medical expenses were to be paid for, Chris begrudgingly agreed before openly referring to Snyder as a "thieving liar".

As for who he ''did'' obey, even that is debatable at best. In regards to his parents, Chris briefly argued with [[Bob]] while trying to convince his trolls to remove copies of the house tour, and he has criticized his father for starting arguments<ref>[[Animal Crossing Documentary]]</ref> and "annoy(ing) (him)"<ref>[[IRC (31 December 2008)]]</ref> (which could more likely have been Chris resisting attempts at calling him out for his childish disposition) and with [[Barb]], he was conditioned to obey her whims, ending up effectively as her servant once Bob died<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb and Chris]]</ref>. He would even fold to her threats of suicide, such that he and Bob let her clutter up the house<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb's Hoarding]]</ref> and he cancelled his planned trip to [[MAGfest]]<ref>[[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012#Borb vs MAGfest]]</ref>. He also considered [[Rocky Shoemaker]] to be more reliable than any qualified psychologist<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>, but even then failed to follow her advice, particularly in regards to not feeding trolls.

Interestingly, while Chris can be stubborn at the worst of times, his obedience of Barb at little to no provocation might have been the genesis of his tendency to [[Chris and manipulation|follow the instruction of trolls without a second thought]], thinking only of potential benefit he thinks he could get from it. For the longest time up until he got released from jail, Chris failed to learn that his unquestioning obedience of others could have consequences, by now ending up more paranoid and making efforts to be reclusive (albeit [[Sightings#Post-Jail|nigh-unable to avoid being sighted in public]]).

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and morality

2026-05-05T21:12:18Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Obedience */

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'')<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>, he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick the Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[Virginia is for Virgins|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

Like other virtues, Chris has an extensive history of failure to obey his superiors. During the early to mid-2000's, Chris roused the ire of authority figures such as [[Mary Lee Walsh]], [[Manajerks|retail staff]] and [[Jerkops|police officers]] for using his [[Attraction Sign]] to find a [[Sweetheart]] whilst loitering. When these attempts at soliciting a relationship invariably led to getting rebuked or punished outright, he proceeded to portray them as part of [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|a villainous conspiracy]] for his self-insert and characters to defeat, whilst also disparaging police officers who wear a specific set of colors as cold-hearted fakes (and eventually denounce ''all'' police officers as evil).

Chris especially showed disobedience after getting banned from The GAMe PLACe in 2008, making foolhardy efforts to get himself unbanned (one notable incident resulting in manager Michael Snyder calling 911) despite that it was made perfectly clear he was prohibited from ever going there again. Over a year after a failed attempt at taking a photo of Snyder (purportedly to make a dartboard) led to a run-in with the law, Chris attempted to reenter the store, later claiming to have thought new ownership meant he could get his ban repealed, only to find Snyder still working there, ultimately leading to Chris and Barb committing vehicular assault and them both ending up in jail (before getting bailed out). At the trial several months later, upon being informed the plea bargain's terms included that Snyder's medical expenses were to be paid for, Chris begrudgingly agreed before openly referring to Snyder as a "thieving liar".

As for who he ''did'' obey, even that is debatable at best. In regards to his parents, Chris briefly argued with [[Bob]] while trying to convince his trolls to remove copies of the house tour, and he has criticized his father for starting arguments<ref>[[Animal Crossing Documentary]]</ref> and "annoy(ing) (him)"<ref>[[IRC (31 December 2008)]]</ref> (which could more likely have been Chris resisting attempts at calling him out for his childish disposition) and with [[Barb]], he was conditioned to obey her whims, ending up effectively as her servant once Bob died<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb and Chris]]</ref>. He would even fold to her threats of suicide, such that he and Bob let her clutter up the house<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb's Hoarding]]</ref> and he cancelled his planned trip to [[MAGfest]]<ref>[[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012#Borb vs MAGfest]]</ref>. He also considered [[Rocky Shoemaker]] to be more reliable than any qualified psychologist, but even then failed to follow her advice, particularly in regards to not feeding trolls.

Interestingly, while Chris can be stubborn at the worst of times, his obedience of Barb at little to no provocation might have been the genesis of his tendency to [[Chris and manipulation|follow the instruction of trolls without a second thought]], thinking only of potential benefit he thinks he could get from it. For the longest time up until he got released from jail, Chris failed to learn that his unquestioning obedience of others could have consequences, by now ending up more paranoid and making efforts to be reclusive (albeit [[Sightings#Post-Jail|nigh-unable to avoid being sighted in public]]).

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and morality

2026-05-02T16:04:10Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Understanding of morality */

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'')<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>, he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick the Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[Virginia is for Virgins|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and reality

2026-05-02T16:00:34Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Science and technology */

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{{quote|You can only escape in your mental depths and recluse for so long before you are pulled back to reality, and too many things leave you feeling like you get little peace at home.|Chris, [[December 2016]], in a rare moment of self-awareness on his habit of escapism.<ref name=rare>[[December 2016 Facebook posts#State of CWC's life]]</ref>}}
[[File:30yrslater.jpg|thumb|250px|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
[[File:Ideaguy poster.jpg|thumb|right|250px|thumb|...for real.]]

'''Reality''' is a concept that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] desperately tries to avoid acknowledging, instead retreating to the comfort of his imaginary world and hoping that reality will eventually bend to his whims. [[Autism|Autistic people]] tend to struggle with distinguishing between reality and fantasy, but most make an effort to reduce the impact on their lives. Chris, on the other hand, embraces his realm of fantasy and '''delusions''', especially as escapism from [[stress]], life responsibilities, and his bleak future, trapping himself in a feedback loop whereby his real-world life and issues are further neglected while his devotion to his fantasies gets stronger.

Notably, Chris believes that [[CWCville]] and his [[imaginary friends]] are real: Chris has been spotted conversing, interacting, and [[BronyCon 2017#Dancing with Magi-Chan|dancing]] with them on many occasions, and even believes that he is [[Polyamorous marriage|married]] to imaginary people. Chris also holds many delusions of grandeur, from believing he has the power to curse people,<ref>According to [[Jackie Chat 5]] and [[Jackie E-mails 16]], Chris wrote that Sonichu was in Mary Lee Walsh’s office with him: he then pretended to be Sonichu himself and delivered a lecture, before using the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] attack.</ref> to thinking he has [[PsychicPowers|psychic powers]], and even believing he is a [[CPU Blue Heart|goddess]] with the power to unite entire [[dimensions]] — and that this [[Dimensional Merge]] would make him rich and bring his fictional characters, and those of others, to life.

Chris's perception of reality has been on a downward spiral for most of his life, due to a lifetime of being coddled by his parents. Following the death of his [[father]] in 2011, and amid the increasing infirmity of his [[mother]], Chris was forced into shouldering more responsibilities that he was mentally ill-equipped to bear, and consequently, he invested more heavily in magical beliefs as solutions to the problems presented by reality. In 2017, the [[Idea Guys]], trolls who utilized role-playing as Chris's imaginary friends, further exacerbated Chris's grasp of reality, giving validation to his fantasies and encouraging him to stay rooted in his fantasy world — a trend continued at present-day by waves of [[enablers]].

Chris maintains his beliefs even in the face of mental health professionals — for nine months between summer 2018 and spring 2019, he was required to see a psychiatrist and therapy group at [[Region Ten]] and told them of his beliefs on his imaginary friends and multiple dimensions, to which their reaction was to simply hand-wave him through their program.

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== Causes of Chris’s poor grip on reality ==

[[File:I'm Done Adulting T-shirt.png|thumb|200px|Chris wearing his "[[Chris and fashion|I'm Done Adulting]]" T-shirt while begging for money and being surrounded by toys in his [[Patreon announcement]]. (You can't be finished with something that never started.)]]

===Parental enabling===
Although autism is one major factor, [[Borb|his parents]] contributed a lot towards Chris's warped perception of anyone or anything that antagonizes him: Bob and Barbara regularly fed Chris conciliatory platitudes about how he was mistreated out of jealousy, and that "special rules" exist for the benefit of autistic people. The platitudes cemented Chris's [[Chris and his Ego|all-pervasive sense of entitlement]], as well as his indiscriminate belief that [[Greene County Conspiracy|anything bad that happened to him was a conspiracy]], whether or not it was caused by his [[slow-in-the-minds|stupidity]] or [[Chris and negotiation|stubbornness]].

===Psychological problems===

The only known formal diagnoses of Chris are [[autism]], dating from when he was five or six years old, and [[transgender|gender dysphoria]], officially diagnosed in 2016. However, his behavior in adulthood suggests he has undiagnosed issues.

Chris exhibits signs of {{W|maladaptive daydreaming}}, a psychiatric disorder comprised of vivid [[daydreams]] and excessive fantasies that can interfere with socializing or even replace it altogether. This behavior is observed in Chris with his [[imaginary friends]] and [[CWCville]], the [[Dimensional Merge]], and especially the [[polyamorous marriage]]. Maladaptive Daydreaming is also associated with pacing and musical stimulation. Eyewitness accounts of Chris such as [[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer]] mention these behaviors in him. Chris also stated that music from his phone is his method for [[meditation]].<ref>[[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2]]</ref>

{{w|Peter Pan syndrome}} is an informal pop psychology "condition" of being immature and refusing to grow up and accept adult responsibilities (like Peter Pan in Neverland). Chris has demonstrated this with his refusal to seek [[work]] or at least budget his SSDI, instead [[beg]]ging for money or ignoring his [[debt]] payments to afford more toys. An [[Debt hearing (eyewitness account)|eyewitness to one of Chris's debt hearings]] noted that Chris was "trying hard to revert to childhood", based on how he made childish noises during his time in the courtroom and talked back to his mother in a childlike voice. The Dimensional Merge represents Chris's ultimate desire to hide from adult responsibilities, as he believes it will grant his wildest power fantasies and enable him to continue living like a child. Chris's devotion to rejecting adult life has warped his perception of reality, as he spends all of his free time playing make-believe as if it were a religion.

====Does Chris have schizophrenia or a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder?====
Probably not.

A common theory since the Dimensional Merge saga unfolded is that Chris may have schizophrenia, based on his rantings about his imaginary world seeming as if he cannot distinguish between reality and fantasy. However, a closer look at Chris's ramblings shows that he's capable of discerning the difference, but couches it in the belief of different [[dimensions]] to preserve his escapist fantasies. Unlike a schizophrenic, Chris will distinguish between reality (or as he calls it, [[1218]]) and his fantasy domain (named [[C-197]]).

{{quote|Damn Dimension 1218’s “Reality” Limits and Shit!!!|Chris's reaction when reality's dimension and his fantasy dimension did not merge as predicted,<ref>[[January 2019 social media posts]]</ref> a prime example of him being able to differentiate reality from his escapist fantasies.}}

{{quote|though not fully doable on the 1218 side of the Dimensional Curtain yet, [I am] able to draw up a water-to-wine conversion and vice-versa.|Chris<ref>[[Reddit]]</ref> showing he is aware he doesn't have super-powers in reality.}}

Also, unlike a schizophrenic, Chris's fantasies do not involve paranoia or hallucinations, and they are entirely self-serving. While Chris has made statements implying he is hallucinating, such as when he insists he can see or interact with his [[imaginary friends]], he often omits that he uses techniques such as "[[meditation]]" or "astral projection" (read: simple imagination), another indicator that his issue is Maladaptive Daydreaming. While Chris's reactions to the Idea Guys' brainwashing can seem like paranoid delusions (i.e., believing that laypeople can blow up the moon), they are better explained by his gullibility.

{{quote|I’ve had to commute to here, Dimension C-197, via astral projection [...] The tough part is having to leave my body behind in 1218. [...] Oh, but very soon, I shall finally, finally, be able to bring mys--body here to C-197.|Chris giving a rare explanation on how he delves into his fantasy world.<ref>[[A Moment With Dr Wolf Chris Chan and Greater Struggles]]</ref>}}

While Chris does on the surface exhibit some "negative symptoms" of schizophrenia, including asociality, an often-flat affect, and avolition, these are all better explained by his [[autism]], much like his [[ego]]centrism and mania-like states of anxious rage.

Chris's behavior and beliefs align at least somewhat with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder Schizotypal personality disorder], which is thought to exist on a spectrum with Schizophrenia. He arguably demonstrates all nine diagnostic criteria in the DSM-5:

*ideas of reference (believing that [[COVID-19|certain]] generally innocuous [[Dimensional Merge|events ]] hold special meaning or messages for oneself)
*[[CPU Blue Heart|strange beliefs]] or [[magical thinking]] that [[Mary Lee Walsh|influences behavior]] and is inconsistent with [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|subcultural norms]]
*[[Imaginary friends|abnormal perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions]]
*[[Conspiracy theories|suspiciousness]] or [[Greene County Conspiracy|paranoid ideation]]
*[[Saga|strange behavior]] or [[Chris and fashion|appearance]]
*excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self, (whilst Chris was largely comfortable around his paid-for [[Gal-Pal|companions]] during [[Manchester High School|High School]], his interaction with both the [[Love Quest|fairer sex]] and [[Man in the pickle suit|pickle bearers]] have since been riddled with [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|paranoid fears]] and [[Manajerks|delusions]])
*strange thinking and speech
*lack of close friends
*inappropriate or constricted affect

However, while these symptoms are all present in Chris, several can be almost exclusively attributed to his [[autism]], such as his social anxiety, lack of close friends, constricted affect, strange behavior, tendency to misinterpret people, mania-like states, gullibility, and egocentric philosophy. Some studies also link ideas of reference to autism. Also, Schizotypal individuals generally do not develop the [[Messiah complex|grandiose delusions]] he has developed over the years, and they generally are too reclusive to air their delusions.

In fact, many of these traits are consistent with autism, ADHD, bipolar, psychosis, schizophrenia, and other personality disorders.

Therefore, further digging than internet armchair analysis is required, and a professional trained to differentiate autistic symptoms from psychotic ones could further elaborate. Chris, of course, will likely never receive this in-depth evaluation, thanks to his [[Chris and mental healthcare|adamant refusal]] to seek out help voluntarily or benefit from professional help that is forced upon him. Again, he arguably does not demonstrate much paranoia outside gullibility, and does not appear to truly hallucinate his imaginary friends.

===Lack of grounding in the real world===
[[File:Artist_Depiction_of_Chris_mind.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction of Chris's imaginary world after he passes away and it dies with him.]]
Chris's lack of purpose, combined with his enormous [[ego]], further fuels his disconnection from reality, compelling him to instead seek out the purpose with make-believe, such as being the mayor of [[CWCville]] and being the goddess [[CPU Blue Heart]]. In August 2019, he preferred to [[daydream]] about such things for three to six hours per day.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Barb ain't dead yet + Magi-Chan's likes]]</ref>"

Without the structure that a traditional job, even a minimum-waged or volunteer position, would impart to him, Chris is instead free to wallow in his fantasies.

Chris's hobbies are mostly limited to [[Netflix]], [[video games]], and [[Twitter]].

{{quote|As for what I do while awake, on the recent, I get up, take my meds, meditate while playing [[Tetris 99]] to at least take on the daily tasks for the game. Most days, I go out on errand or simple walking [...] Anyway, during the time at home, I tend to binge a show, do some drawing or creative, work (namely the [[TSSSF]] cards and the comic pages).|Chris describing his day-to-day life.<ref>[[Arbitarch CWC Alliance chats (November 2019)#Chris's day-to-day life]]</ref>}}

===Escapist fantasies===
[[File:Dimensional Merge math on McDonalds napkin.jpg|thumb|200|Chris will sit down and [[Chris and science#Mathematics|calculate]] the number of casualties in his [[Dimensional Merge]] fantasy but won't write up a budget plan for paying off his [[debt]].]]

Chris embraces his fantasies as escapism, overindulging in them to the point that his interest in them has largely eclipsed his real-world life. When his childlike lifestyle conflicts with the responsibilities associated with being an adult, Chris retreats to his fantasy realm to cope.

This habit became especially prevalent in the years following the September 2011 death of his [[father]], after which Chris found himself thrust into the world of adult responsibilities as he had to do tasks such as pay his bills and help take care of his [[mother]] and pets. Chris was 29 years old when his father passed away; while most people would be accustomed to dealing with responsibilities by that age, Chris was unprepared for the burden since his parents had sheltered him up to that point. For example, until he died, his father had managed Chris's bank account due to his fiscal irresponsibility.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 8]]</ref>

{{quote|When my father was alive, I had more freedom; now that he has passed, I lost a lot of freedom and remain to take after the tasks he had left behind. [...] You can only escape in your mental depths and recluse for so long before you are pulled back to reality, and too many things leave you feeling like you get little peace at home.|Chris.<ref name=rare></ref>}}

Chris occasionally whined on social media about his position in having to help take care of his mother and pets — his statements gradually revealing more of his retreat into escapist fantasies.

In September 2012, he complained:

{{quotebox|Everybody else gets to go out for a fun and good time; I am stuck care-giving my mother and our [[dogs]], and it is Very Stressful on me.<ref>[[September 2012 Facebook posts#I Require Friends]]</ref>}}

In January 2013, Chris was hoping for a [[sweetheart]] to rescue him from his life:

{{quotebox|I need my Sweetheart-to-be to make me happy; my heart hurts literally from my depression and loneliness. Serving my mother is not a final purpose to me, and my social life is very slim. I feel like I lack direction in my life as well.<ref>[[January 2013 Facebook posts#Chris needs direction]]</ref>}}

By summer 2017, Chris was immersed in his escapism to the point that he was [[dancing with Magi-Chan]], one of his [[imaginary friends]], at [[BronyCon]]. In October of that year, from his list of reasons for refusing to get a job, half involved his devotion to his fantasies:

{{quotebox|I Have a TON and S***-Load of Responsibilities and Worries here at home care-taking my mother, dogs, cats, and to my own passion of my [[Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon]] Family, my City of Cwcville, my own Only-Me Psychic Connection [[Imaginary friends|to my family and friends there]], in that dimension. So, I'll be darned if I Do Not already have enough on my plate<ref>[[Kiwi Farms#Posts]]</ref>}}

Chris's desire to be rescued from reality left him desperate for his fantasies to be validated, his mentality similar to people willing to join cults. This led to Chris being exploited by a number of trolls, with the most infamous being the [[Idea Guys]]. Chris would only continue to retreat further and further into this elaborate alternate reality he has constructed in his mind. While under arrest for [[Jail Saga|sexually assaulting his elderly mother]], Chris chose to ignore the seriousness of the situation he was in and gave a long spiel to the responding police officers about Sonichu, his status as a Supreme Goddess, and the Dimensional Merge. As Chris sat in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] awaiting legal proceedings, he has now chosen to believe that he is also the [[Jail_Letter_-_19_September_2021|reincarnation of Jesus Christ.]]

===Cult of the Idea Guys===
{{main|Idea Guys|Enablers|List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris}}
{{quote|I feel need to also thank them for adding more connection between our sister dimension and I|Chris on the Idea Guys, retaining his cultist mentality several months after they had been ousted.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1017879233119469568</ref>}}

[[File:IdeaGuyCwc News Media.PNG|thumb|200px|Chris fell for this fake news graphic made by the original Idea Guy as part of his plot to convince Chris he was providing information from [[CWCville]]'s dimension.]]

On 25 [[October 2017]], Joshua Wise, the first of a duo that would later be dubbed the Idea Guys, contacted Chris.<ref>Date given in [[Sonichu 13]].</ref> Initially, as an experiment to gauge Chris's gullibility, Wise began a plot to manipulate Chris into believing that Wise had made it into [[CWCville]]'s dimension. Drawing from his experience in role-playing communities and borrowing lore from video game/anime series ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'', Wise crafted an elaborate narrative that included edited image graphics, doctored audio clips such as [[Red Forest]], and role-playing as Chris's [[imaginary friends]]. Chris, by this point in his life, desperate for his fantasies to be validated, eagerly accepted Wise's claims.<ref name=IGQA>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>

The association between Wise and Chris morphed into that of a cult leader and a devout follower. Wise, taking advantage of Chris's desire for validation, brainwashed his beliefs on CWCville and his imaginary friends, such as by claiming CWCville to be [[Operation BARBarossa|occupied by Nazis]], that [[Rosechu]] is a transgender woman, and that Chris is [[Polyamorous marriage|married to imaginary friends]], with Chris accepting it as fact.

At some point, the second Idea Guy, Stephen Boyd, joined Wise. Together, the two exploited their influence over Chris and had him make false statements for blackmail purposes and conned Chris into giving them thousands of dollars under threats that they would destroy CWCville and release the blackmail material if he failed to comply.<ref name=extortionists></ref> Their activities caught the attention of people in Chris's inner circle, who formed a group later termed the [[Guard Dogs]] to counteract the Idea Guys and remove them from power. However, even after the ousting, and though the Guard Dogs tried to encourage him to seek therapy at [[Region Ten]], Chris still retained most of the beliefs the Idea Guys had brainwashed into him over the six months they were in power. Guard Dog Marvin explained Chris's perspective:

{{quoteboxgreen|"Reality" is a malleable concept to Chris.

To Chris, that these losers were pretending to be imaginary characters doesn't mean they didn't unwittingly connect with their counterparts in the other dimension or whatever. So yeah, he thinks Wise and Boyd were assholes who stumbled upon some magic or some shit.

Chris is mostly mad about money first and being made to embarrass himself second.

In regards to why he still maintains a lot of their canon, it's because Chris is too invested in his imaginary world to give up on it so easily. I think after Wise and Boyd were outed, he felt really uncomfortable about retconning most of their changes. Because if he retcons the past six months, then fuck, why can't he retcon all of it? That would make him feel really uneasy about the possible reality of his imaginary world.

That reality is most important to him.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Why Chris Continued Believing Idea Guys Influence]]</ref>}}

The post-Idea Guys era ignited a wave of [[enablers]] who sought to use the Idea Guys' tactics to worm their way into Chris's life. For a few months, the Guard Dogs attempted to protect Chris by screening his messages for him. However, given Chris's refusal to address his psychological weaknesses and willingness to find others to play make-believe with, the enablers eventually broke past their defenses, leading to the Guard Dogs washing their hands of Chris. The [[Teen Troon Squad]] in fall 2018, [[MKRNightVee]] in winter 2019, [[Jacob Sockness]] in summer 2019, and a myriad of [[other enablers]] took turns role-playing with Chris and enabling his fantasies in exchange for his attention. In addition, using lore brute-forced into his head by the Idea Guys, Chris declared himself to be a goddess — [[CPU Blue Heart]] — and began to preach about the [[Dimensional Merge]], further intensifying the cult vibes of his beliefs.

==Consequences==
[[File:Discord3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The fictional superweapon Kadingir, as depicted in anime series ''Symphogear''. The Idea Guys used this image to con Chris into believing they had the capability to destroy the moon and CWCville.<ref>[[The Bad Beginning]]</ref>]]

Beyond making a fool of himself, Chris's poor grasp of reality has compelled him to self-harm, fall for con men exploiting his beliefs, and cause damage to his home.

===Self-harm===
{{w|Gender dysphoria|Late-onset gender dysphoria}} is a psychological disorder describing those who identify with another gender over their own, and can present with the desire to be rid of their primary sex characteristics and prefer those of the other gender. Like with everything else in life, Chris sought out [[magical thinking]] to treat his gender dysphoria.

In March 2016, he discovered [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]], a collection of music tracks on YouTube claiming to, among other things, magically grant larger breasts and transform a penis into a vagina. Chris's confirmation bias over his breasts increasing, crediting it to the mysticism instead of his {{w|gynecomastia}} and [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+|poor measuring of his chest]], led him to believe that the claims made by the channel were true.

He pursued the penis-vagina transformation and began to prod his taint while under the impression there was a hidden vagina there.<ref>[[Reddit#Can males be born with a hidden vagina (minus the uterus)? (3 July 2016)]]</ref> Though the Subliminal channel claimed the transformation would take six months, Chris eventually lost patience. In July 2016, he grabbed a knife and made a [[self-inflicted taint wound]] in an effort to free his vagina. Chris's devotion to the delusion was so potent that he initially resisted efforts by concerned fans to pressure him into going to the hospital, though he eventually wore down and admitted it was a wound and obeyed treatment instructions.

===Con artists===
While Chris has long been taken advantage of by trolls, the tactics and goals from the likes of the [[Idea Guys]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] surpass the typical catfishing-for-content.

The Idea Guys gradually built up a strong psychological hold over Chris by affirming his fantasies and playing along with them, to the point where Chris had full faith in anything they told him. They then used their influence to con Chris out of $6,000 by threatening to blow up [[CWCville]] with a moon laser if he failed to comply, manipulate him into punching his mother, and had him make videos [[Chris slaps himself|slapping himself in the face]] and shitting on the floor.<ref name=extortionists>[[The Chris-Chan Extortionists]]</ref> Things became even darker when the Idea Guys threatened to falsely report Chris as a [[Pedofork|pedophile]] to the FBI if he stopped supplying them with vast sums of money, consoles, and games, thus deepening the [[Financhu Crisis]].

Jacob Sockness, following the example set by the Idea Guys, nearly succeeded in manipulating Chris into a sexual relationship, holding the [[Dimensional Merge]] over his head and [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|faking a conversation with Chris's imaginary friend]] to convince him they should meet and consider marriage.

Though both the Idea Guys and Sockness were eventually ousted by people countering their role-playing with their own, Chris has failed to learn and continues to leave the gates to his imaginary realm open to anyone who will validate his fantasies further.

===Property damage===
{{quote|My hands have punched that wall more than once in the past, yes. But it was part of the sequence of events at the time in practice of physically breaking the threads of the [[iron curtain]] veil.|Chris.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Upset at MLP G5]]</ref>}}

As of [[July 2021]], a bathroom in the Chandler home has damage to the drywall from being punched in. Chris stated that he had punched the wall in order to physically break the "[[Iron Curtain]]" - his term for a dimensional barrier between reality and his fantasy dimension [[C-197]].

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File:Direct Message to Hasbro - MLPG5 Is Cancelled.-ay-NMiYIdGI.mp400002-min.png|[[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.|A video]] still showing the punched-in wall.
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==Fantasy and fiction==
{{quote|You think that comic character wouldn't have its own thoughts and feelings?|Chris's question to [[Alec Benson Leary]].}}
{{quote|NO!|Alec's response.}}
{{quote|You are [[naïve]].|Chris's response to Alec.<ref name="ABL call 2">[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref>}}
[[File:Cwcpaddedcell credit Un Platano.jpg|right|thumb|The chances of this happening were staggering... [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|And one day, it did happen!]]]]

By the time the internet first discovered him circa 2007, Chris already held beliefs that CWCville and his imaginary friends were real, and that he had the power to curse people. Since then, as a maladaptive coping mechanism for his real-world life crumbling around him, Chris gradually took on larger-scale fantasies, such as [[Dimensions|parallel dimensions]].

=== CWCville ===

{{main|CWCville}}

CWCville is Chris’s original vision of an imaginary and idyllic fantasy world, where everything is built around his comfort and convenience, and where he enjoys great power with scant responsibility. Chris believes that CWCville is real, and uses the city as a way to “escape” from a world that does not [[Chris and his Ego|give Chris what he wants]]. CWCville was originally an infill city within the state of [[Virginia]], but it became part of the larger [[C-197|C-197 dimension]] when Chris started toying with the [[Dimensional Merge]].

All of Chris's characters are aware that Chris is the creator of their reality. Sonichu and Rosechu both refer to him as "father", in much the same way [[Chris and religion|a Christian might consider God to be his or her Creator]] (it is unknown if the comic exists in the universe of CWCville). Chris believes his characters possess the free will to make their own decisions and that he is not responsible for their actions. This is how various events, both major and minor, such as Sonichu and Rosechu's wedding, the birth of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|their children]],<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Sonichu_and_Rosechu_from_1998_to_Today Sonichu Page on CWCipedia</ref> [[Kel]]'s romance with [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Naitsirhc]],<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#First_Encounter_with_Naitsirhc</ref> and even [[Bubbles Rosechu|Bubbles]] and [[Blake]]'s wedding<ref>[[I_Am_The_TRUE,_Original_CCWC#A_history_.286:02_to_9:34.29 I Am The TRUE, ORIGINAL CCWC]]</ref> are said to actually happen "off-screen", instead of just being a [[Chris and writing|spur-of-the-moment throwaway plot elements]] that Chris is [[stress|too lazy to depict]]. Without prior explanation, Chris made a "spoiler" in his own comic that [[Magi-Chan]] will eventually get together with [[Silvana]], implying that, in Chris's head, this has already "happened".<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_37 Issue 10 Page 37</ref> It is [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|Slaweel Ryam]], not Chris, who apologizes for slandering [[Mary Lee Walsh]].<ref>[[Mary Lee Walsh#Possible reconciliation]]</ref> Chris once justified his refusal to write Simonla out of the comic by saying that she would not want to leave CWCville, and that she and [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] would fight for her right to stay.<ref>[[Mailbag 43#...well, this is disturbing!]]</ref>

Chris considers everything drawn, written, or even said about CWCville to be canonical if he's the one stating it (regardless of contradictions) and feels it necessary to explain away undesirable changes to CWCville made as a result of outside influences (e.g. [[BILLY MAYS]], [[Julie Reveals Herself|as Mayor]]). The fact that he needs to explain this in his comic pages shows that he assumes everyone else shares this belief as well. Despite considering his own judgment infallible as applied to his own work, he forces [[Alec Benson Leary calls|others]] to accept the "corrections" he has made to theirs.

When the [[Asperpedia Four]] used systematic trolling to make Chris kill off the character [[Simonla Rosechu#Simonla as the Lynchpin|Simonla]], Chris viewed it as a deliberate attack on his fantasy world. CWCville, which had always been Chris's way of retreating from the real world, had been infiltrated by outside forces and was no longer impenetrable, so this is likely why Chris put the comic on hiatus: to stop outside forces from causing any more damage.

Chris's beliefs are such that he even claims to hold the distinction of Mayor of CWCville "IN REAL LIFE".<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)]]</ref> He only admits that CWCville is not real when he intends to pacify others he sees as too slow in the mind to comprehend this idea. He most likely defends this belief because he has accomplished and produced virtually nothing worthwhile in his life, and he likes to pretend that he has made a positive impact on something, if only on a metaphysical level. In his opinion, anyone who does not accept this worldview is "[[Chris and hypocrisy|naïve]]".

On 23 July 2017, Chris responded to his [[True and Loyal Fanbase]], who wondered why Chris wouldn't reboot his comics. As a response, Chris explained that if he were to reboot his comics, that would mean that history in the canon would have to start all over again, and all of the characters would have to start over from their original origins. Essentially, he thinks that if he pulls the plug on his Sonichu franchise and reboots it, that would mean that [[Chris and death|all of his characters would die, and they would somehow reincarnate into their newer upgraded versions]].

{{quote|I believe in the alternate dimensions where each set or all of our animated characters reside and live their lives, and continue growing long after their series is finished (or stay kids; whatever).|Chris to [[Doopie]].<ref>[[Doopie E-mails#Hey, Danielle]]</ref>}}

=== Dimensions ===
{{main|Dimensions|Dimensional Merge}}

{{quote|the moment I brought up the multiverse, he listened.|The original [[Idea Guy]] on how he got Chris's attention.<ref name=IGQA></ref>}}

Chris’s belief in alternative dimensions enables him to disconnect from the poor and mundane life he currently resides in and to shift the responsibility for personality flaws to an alternative Chris.<ref>[[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2]]</ref> It gives him solace to believe that he, or other versions of himself, exist in other places where he is content, successful, and surrounded by characters and people who love him. The Idea Guys exploited Chris's nascent beliefs and desires on other dimensions and further shaped them as part of their cult-like grip over his beliefs.

The Dimensional Merge is Chris's ultimate escapist fantasy, enabling him to think he is powerful and wealthy, with real friends and a happy marriage, all just waiting for him on the other side of the "dimensional curtain". A concept originally created by the Idea Guys and later expanded on by Chris with the help of fantasy enablers, the Merge is his hope that the sister dimensions 1218 and C-197 will unify, with him overseeing the merge in his role as the goddess [[CPU Blue Heart]]. The dimension "1218" (sometimes referred to as "Earth 1218") is the dimension of reality. The dimension "C-197" is the designation for Chris's imaginary world, which contains all of his favorite fictional characters and [[OC]]s. The Merge was originally scheduled to be completed by the end of [[2018]], leaving behind a universe known as 1C-211987 with elements of both sister dimensions and enabling Chris to realize his dream of hanging out with Sonichu and his pals.

===Imaginary friends===
{{main|Imaginary friends}}

{{quote|And One Day, Very Soon, [[Polyamorous marriage|my family]] and I will be able to show ourselves to you all, then you will be taking back your own “scizzo” labels. Harrumph!|Chris, [[May 2018 social media posts#Imaginary family|vowing]] that we will see his characters in the flesh.}}

{{quote|When I look into the eyes of a Original or Fictional Character, I do not see Fiction at all; I see a full living being and individual. I see a friend, or lover in few cases.|Chris, [[April 2021 social media posts#Fictional characters|describing]] how he sees his characters as real.}}

[[File:ChrisOverhearingNightstar.png|thumb|Chris overhears a conversation held by his imaginary friend [[Night Star]].]]

In addition to CWCville, Chris's belief in imaginary friends is another major element of escapism. A mix of maladaptive coping and daydreaming, Chris believes that [[List of Sonichu characters|his characters]] actually exists in both [[C-197]] and [[Dancing with Magi-Chan|1218]], and that he can communicate with them via [[meditation]] sessions — in reality, conflating his inner monologue with imagined visions and voices of his fictional friends.

There are many instances of Chris trying to interact with his imaginary friends over the years, becoming more prevalent over time as his desire for escapism intensifies. Examples include [[Imaginary friends#Sonichu|his confrontation]] with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] in 2004, his [[Dancing with Magi-Chan|imaginary dance partner]] at the 2017 BronyCon gala, and social media messages near the end of the 2010s written either from a point of view of any of his [[OC]]s<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Heart attack claim|Twitter messages]] from @MagiChan111448, 26 June 2019.</ref> or in which he claims to be with any of them.<ref name=aug2019car>[[August 2019 social media posts#Chris caused a fender-bender and kicked a cop car; discovers he's blacklisted from Papa Johns|Twitter messages]] from @CPU_CWCSonichu, 5 August 2019.</ref>

In the fall of 2017, the Idea Guys role-played as Chris's own imaginary friends, giving Chris validation over his preexisting notions and further fueling his maladaptive behavior — such as by convincing Chris that his imaginary friends will be united with him in the [[Dimensional Merge]] and that he is married to several of them in a [[polyamorous marriage]].

===Magical thinking===
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{{quote|Quite frankly I believe you are wasting your time there are more productive things in life than levitating a pen put your energy into those.|Magician Uri Geller's advice for Chris, who had asked Uri for help training his psychic powers.<ref name=uri>[[Uri Geller#E-mails]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I am Not wasting my time!|Chris's reply.}}

Chris's habit of magical thinking is another maladaptive coping method, manifesting in delusions of grandeur. Instead of putting in the effort to improve his own life, Chris prefers to believe that magic will do it for him. In addition, he believes that magic will allow him to neutralize his perceived enemies.

{{quote|I intend to do a LOT more good with my Psychic Powers to bring Peace and take down up to All of the Internet Haters and Bullies! I Need to do all these in my own control.|Chris<ref name=uri></ref>}}

Chris believes he has an array of magic powers. Most notable is the ability to [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] his enemies (as well as to [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|undo it]]). Others include [[Sarah May Skype Logs|communicating with the dead]], [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L|brainwashing people]], and [[psychic powers]].

===Superstitions===
[[Image:Chris_chan_and_reality_jpg.jpg|450px|thumb|left|{{w|The Shining (film)|"Great party, isn't it?"}}]]

While most of Chris's superstitions are his own, he also takes part in popular superstitions as well. Autistic people in general tend to be predisposed to wishful and magical thinking, finding superstitions to be comforting.

Chris dislikes the number 13 because he thinks it is an unlucky number: triskaidekaphobia (the fear of 13) is already a common American superstition, with {{w|Microsoft Office}} notably skipping version 13 during the development of Office 2010.<ref>Flynn, David, [https://web.archive.org/web/20090206073052/http://apcmag.com/microsoft_to_skip_unlucky_office_13.htm/ ‘Microsoft to skip "unlucky" Office 13’], ''Australian Personal Computer (APC)'', 29 March 2007 (accessed 6 May 2019).</ref> However, Chris's fear of the number 13 had an unusual effect on the numbering of the ''Sonichu'' comics, where ''Sonichu #13'' was numbered as [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]] (showing his incompetency with either logic or [[math]])<ref>[[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content|Captain’s Log, 14 August 2017 (''More Positive Content'')]].</ref> and where the Episode ''"One Lucky Dog"'' from [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] was labeled "[[Sonichu 6#Episode 12.5: "One Lucky Dog"|Episode 12.5]]".<ref>[https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/SchuComic7P1.htm Sonichu 6, Page 1.]</ref> On [[Twitter]], when going into multi-tweet rants, Chris numbers the tweets. For Twitter messages which exceed 12 tweets, Chris either replaces the number 13 with a repeated 12 or with 12-9.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1023969772168511488</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1006915844016869377</ref><ref>It should be noted that there are more sensible ways for avoiding the use of the number 13, even if it is necessary to maintain the consistency of numbering. They include:
* Renumbering 13 as 12A, 12½ or 12.5;
* Renumbering 13 as 12B, and renumber 12 as 12A.</ref>

Chris has also shown belief in astrology. He included his and [[Sarah Nicole Hammer|Sarah Hammer]]'s zodiac signs in the [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|Life-Shares]]. In his [[OkCupid]] profile, he wrote that his sign is "Pisces, and it's fun to think about". He wrote to [[Jessica Quinn]], "I am emotion-prone, and I tend to do as I feel and life flows, like the Pisces I was born under."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref> One of the quotes on his first Facebook was "I was born under the Sign of PISCES, the sign of the PROVIDER. I am fully capable of providing the necessities, and then some, for the Lucky Woman who loves me for me, and becomes my True Sweetheart". His belief in star signs may explain why he holds such a high significance to his [[birthday]].

Chris places significance on his [[Amnyfest Ring|birthstone]], which he calls "[[Speech impediment|amnyfest]]". He believes the class ring with the stone is what gives him power, and even pointed it out to [[Emily]] on their date. More recently, he has attached an amethyst quartz crystal to his [[medallion]].

==In the real world==
===Science and technology===
{{main|Chris and science}}
{{quote|I do not even know of the symptoms, because, again, if I literally overthought about it, I would be at greater risk of infecting myself from reading and repeating the list in my mind. It’s Neurotypical and idiotic for anyone to do that and overthink it.|Chris rationalizes staying ignorant of the viral disease [[COVID-19‎‎]].<ref name=viral>[[March 2020 social media posts#Chris finally weighs in on the coronavirus pandemic]]</ref>}}

Chris seems completely unaware of what current technology is and is not capable of. In his [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Sonichu article] on the [[CWCipedia]], he suggests that Nintendo pour their resources into developing a Poké Ball peripheral that would have slots for every generation of Pokémon games, including a slot for the GameCube memory card. He expects users of this peripheral to be able to read party data from the inserted game/memory card, display a holographic image of the Pokémon in play, and challenge people in real life who own the same peripheral (in a manner much like on ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]''). In addition, Chris has no idea how everyday machines such as [[Son-Chu|cars]] work, evidenced in how [[September 2014|he claimed]] that a 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block was a great "fixer-upper." Normally, any serious physical damage to a car's engine can only be repaired by a very skilled mechanic, or cannot be repaired at all, and one must buy a new engine (both of which are not cheap, but [[Chris and money|that's an entirely different problem]]).

Chris has also been shown to lack knowledge of basic pathology. When he contracted a cold in December 2019, he had misattributed it to the large-scale [[Chris and anger|triggering]] he got from a number of people on his Twitter.

According to [[Ivy]], Chris requested a pill to cure his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|incontinence]] when his doctor recommended improvements to his diet and regular exercise<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref>. While Chris has been on medications before (and at least takes them when prescribed), he appears to have thought medicine is a one-and-done antidote without any further effort on his part required.

===Social rules===
{{main|Dating education}}
Chris also obsesses over popular "rules" about relationships. He's held onto the idea that sex should be given on the [[third date]], as well as other [[How to Talk to Girls|overly generic]] dating advice.

Other "rules" Chris has culled from pop culture include superficial platitudes about decency, often expecting them to be valid in situations concerning others he has wronged. To name a specific example, besides emphatically claiming to be [[True and Honest]] and [[Chris and remorse|requesting]] [[Apology Letters|others]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|"forgive and forget"]], [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers|Chris once openly expressed a belief]] that learning morals about love and friendship from franchises like ''[[My Little Pony]]'' and ''[[Care Bears]]'' '''can prevent war''' (woefully unaware that the real world and human beings are many times more complex than what is portrayed in a cartoon for young children).

===Conspiracy theories===
{{main|Conspiracy theories}}

{{quote|I bet, even Greene County had something to do with influencing that goddamn Michael Snyder [...] to make him pretend to have a reason to kick me out|Chris blaming his school board for a decision made by a game store manager.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>}}

Chris and his parents have come up with several conspiracy theories to explain away his life problems. Notable examples are Chris [[Greene County Conspiracy|blaming his elementary school]] for keeping him in his autistic shell, his parents' notion that [[Michael Snyder]] and [[Megan Schroeder]] were masterminds behind the [[trolls]], and Chris's belief that Snyder caused his own injuries when Chris and his mother [[28 October 2011|hit him with their car]].

===Estimation===
{{Main|Mathematics}}
{{Quote|A [[Son-Chu|CAR]] WEIGHS A LOT MORE THAN 10 TONS|Chris, being unaware that most cars weigh two or three tons.<ref>[[Mailbag 9]]</ref>}}
Chris has a tendency to hugely exaggerate estimates of [[Duck|length]], [[White knight E-mails|weight]], and [[I AM STRONG|strength]] in his favor, as evidenced in his description of a [[11042009 51 50|12-pack of canned lemonade as being fifty pounds (22.7 kg)]]. This behavior is symptomatic of {{w|dyscalculia}}, a common symptom of autism, which leaves the sufferer with poor comprehension of time, measurement, or spatial reasoning. However, Chris does not really display any other symptoms of it, suggesting this behavior isn't mere ignorance, but rather Chris telling childish lies to try to impress people with his physical strength.

===Lack of theory of mind===
Chris has no idea what the billions of people on the planet think. He thinks that all men would happily wear [[Brassieres For Males|bras]] and skirts (It must be noted that Chris thought these ideas so that he and he alone would feel more comfortable [[Tomgirl Saga|crossdressing]]), and that every Sonic fan on the planet would support him in his [[Sonic Boom Protests]]. When somebody informs him that they have a different opinion from his, he throws a tantrum and denounces that person as a [[troll]]. While autistic people have long been stereotyped with a lack of theory of mind, research into the double empathy problem proves they don't necessarily lack it, though Chris definitely does – his actions speak for little, if any.

===Narcissistic tendencies===
{{main|Examples of Chris's Ego}}
Chris automatically assumes his lies will be believed, even if they contradict existing information. This is copiously evidenced in his constant [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] during the [[Father Call]], wherein Chris fibs incessantly about his [[Chris and health|health]] (among other things), frequently denying things or changing his story whenever he gets caught out. His habit of lying and lying about his lies is likely inherited from his mother, whom [[Cole Smithey E-mails|his brother described]] as a pathological liar. When asked by [[Evan]] to remove [[Simonla]] from his comics, Chris decided that he could have created her without the inspiration of Evan's character [[Simonchu]] and, thus, effectively had.<ref>[[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly]]</ref> The fact that he [[Things Chris has ripped off|demonstrably could not have done this]] did not factor into his reasoning. Chris "[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3|corrected]]" Simonla's [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Simonla_Rosechu CWCipedia entry] with a "[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 4|retraction]]" denying that Simonla had ever been inspired by Simonchu. Chris expected that this revised version of the truth would be happily accepted by all concerned parties.

In addition to lies, Chris expects that any [[Chris and remorse|so-called "apology"]] will immediately change the minds of any perceived "enemy" of his, and everything will be sunshine and rainbows for him again. [[Chris_and_remorse#Index_of_Chris.27s_apologies|He has done this many times before]] [[Megan_emails,_2008#Megan_can.27t_trust_Chris_anymore|but]] [[Mailbag_26#Mary_Lee_Walsh_trolls_IRL|almost]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|always]] [[Apology Letters|not]] working out in his favor, especially considering his [[Chris and his ego|self-centered temperament]] and [[Chris and the law|generally nonchalant disregard for social etiquette]] are often what cause him trouble in the first place.

Later on, however, he opted for [[Unban contracts|a different approach in the form of contracts]]. In addition to (unwittingly) invalidating his own contract with a stipulation that store managers ''cannot hand him over to the police'', he proclaimed that refusal to let an individual with a history of belligerent and disruptive behavior run amok in a retail setting would prove a manager to be "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul", even accusing them of potential discrimination simply because he identifies as an LGBT person.

Chris considers people with [[Asperger's syndrome]] to be "fakers" who are taking "the Shine and Limelight" away from genuine autistic people such as himself.<ref>[[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)]]</ref> Although Chris has admitted that this "fact" is only his "own idea," he still believes that to think otherwise is to [[Chris and religion|"conform to blasphem[y]."]]<ref>[[Autism Awareness E-mails]]</ref> As with many other things which antagonize him, Chris simply assumes Asperger's to be signs of a conspiracy targeting himself.

Unsurprisingly, Chris can come across as highly delusional when he expects to be taken seriously. For example, on 28 April 2012, he made an empty threat to the [[Kiwi Farms]] about hunting down each of its members; he claimed to know where each of them lived in an attempt to intimidate the trolls. Even if one were to gloss over the fact that he wouldn't even [[Shigeru Miyamoto|cough up $800 to travel to Redmond to see his dreams come true]] (and it should be noted that there are trolls all over America, and indeed the world), there's a high chance that there will only be one [[Kick the Autistic|outcome]] of Chris actively pursuing his trolls with the purpose of doing them harm. All things considered, Chris ended up making himself even more of a laughingstock in the process.

Like many of his worst flaws, this contributed to the biggest mess Chris had ever gotten himself into. In [[July 2021|July of 2021]], Chris felt a need to confide in someone that [[Affair with Mother|he was shagging his elderly mom]], after previously lying that he was with an anonymous older woman. For this, he chose [[Bella]], foolishly thinking he could trust her to keep the details secret, despite Chris confessing to the illegal act of incest, having been informed by [[Null]] she's an obvious troll ''and'' that he had suffered the consequences of [[Honest Content|oversharing personal information]] (multiple times) '''for years'''. Needless to say, [[Jail Saga|this caused a ruckus that ultimately led to Chris getting arrested]].

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Chris and morality

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}''), he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick the Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[Virginia is for Virgins|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
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==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and morality

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'''Morality''' is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}''), he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===
:''Main articles: [[Honest Content]] and [[List of Chris's lies]]''

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===
{{Main|Chris and his ego}}

A major factor into Chris's wrongdoings is that he thinks very highly of himself, not to his benefit whatsoever. Due in no small part to [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering|parental coddling]] and various [[enablers]], Chris fervently believes that he is a benevolent human being at the mercy of [[Kick The Autistic|cruel autistic-hating people]] who do everything in their power to ruin his life for the sake of it. As a result, Chris is a narcissist to the point where he is virtually unable to acknowledge when something is his fault or if he brought something upon himself, let alone actually be remorseful for his misdeeds.

Chris has even believed that [[Conspiracy theories|various people conspired to prevent him]] from ever [[VIRGINA IS FOR VIRGINS|finding true love]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|deprive him of a social life]], get him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]] and so forth. In doing so, Chris shirks responsibility for his actions and instead vilifies whoever he has deemed a scapegoat for his latest misfortune, providing fuel for his victim complex and aspirations to defeat his imagined tormentors.

===Kindness===
{{Main|Chris and kindness}}

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

===Remorse===
{{Main|Chris and remorse}}

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]
* [[Chris and his personality]]
* [[Chris and introspection]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and morality

2026-05-01T19:23:02Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Virtues he fails (or failed) at */

Chris and remorse

2026-04-30T16:35:50Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Conclusion */

{{Needs Updating|[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT]]|[[May 2025 social media posts#Saberspark's response to sexual assault allegations]]|[[Grounded Deep Response]]}}

{{Quote|Please, just forget about me in total; please, disband all online groups and individual hatreds against me; please, remove everything about me off of the Internet, your minds, and your hearts.|[[Chris]], after making a public apology on [[Facebook]].}}

{{Quote|He's malicious! He... he knows that doing these things are wrong, and he doesn't care! Because if he gets away with it, that's all that matters!|[[Null]], recounting a revelation that he had about Chris during their final interaction.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjmy3K7uT8</ref>}}

[[File: Apology.jpg|thumb|Chris's long awaited apology to [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Reldnahc]]]]

Every so often, one of [[Chris]]'s [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|less]] [[Twin Falling Towers|flattering]] deeds catches up with him, and he is forced to apologize. These apologies, like most of the other times Chris tries to come off as emotional, often feel very forced and insincere, leading many [[trolls]] to wonder if Chris is even capable of feeling '''remorse'''.

Time and time again he's shown himself unable to understand others' feelings of [[Chris and death|loss or sadness]], as well as how his own actions might hurt or anger them. Additionally, Chris is also shown to be incapable of recognizing or empathizing emotional experiences of others, being affected by them, and being able to respond with an appropriate emotion due to his [[Chris and his ego|narcissism]].

When he is expected to show remorse, it often seems as though he is just going through the motions, making the absolute minimum effort to get whoever he has upset to stop pestering him, so he can go back to his oblivious existence playing [[PlayStation 3]].

==Concept of wrongdoing==

Developing an understanding of right and wrong is an important part of a child's development. Very young children don't take into consideration what is ethically the right or wrong thing to do. They base their actions on whether they are punished or rewarded before they eventually internalize a consistent value system and learn to police their own behavior. Chris seems to be stuck in the former, childlike state. If something makes him feel bad, or if experience tells him he'll get in trouble for doing something, it must be wrong. If it makes him feel good or looks like it could have potential rewards, it must be right. Other considerations, such as what his [[Chris and religion|supposed faith]] proscribes or how this will affect others, simply do not rank.

An excellent example would be how Chris managed to destroy his relationship with [[Megan Schroeder]]. Chris was at war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], who were, among other things, calling him [[Homos|gay]]. In an attempt to disprove their allegations, Chris uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a certain image]] to the website, apparently under the belief that that sort of information overload would get them to shut up. When the denizens of ED assumed the image was of Crystal, Chris was quick to correct them. At no point did he even consider Megan's feelings. When she [[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG|called him out]], Chris didn't realize he had done anything wrong and assumed she was upset simply because she didn't watch enough [[Chris and sex|porn]].

{{Quote|I understand. You may or may not have had much exposure to sexual images as I've had, so the idea of a "hand job" (which was the act drawn there) as part of [[Chris and English|outtercourse]] (versus intercourse) was a surprise to you. I'm sorry.|Chris, [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|not getting it at all]].}}

As such, Chris isn't really capable of remorse or a sincere apology. The natural precursor to an apology is the internal realization that one has done something wrong, a realization that Chris's childish, self-centered mindset will not allow him to reach. In his mind, he's done something "wrong" only when the people around him react negatively. Furthermore, as a rule, he assumes that their reaction is just the result of some misunderstanding, reasoning that if he was just given the chance to explain what he was trying to accomplish, they would understand, and all would be forgiven.

Judging by [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|his plea for a hobby store's manager to "forgive and forget"]], it's very likely that Chris still operates on kindergartener-level moral philosophy in that he expects recipients of his apologies to immediately retract their disapproval and let him off the hook (which he might have experienced since it's a common scenario with smaller children and authority figures) despite being a grown adult, not realizing such a thing no longer applies to social situations after a certain point. Given his track record for [[Chris and his ego|selfishness]], [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles|issues with growing up]], and [[Sonic Boom Protests|resistance to change]], that would come as no surprise.

Moreover, Chris doesn't seem to understand that the purpose of an apology is essentially a promise not to repeat whichever negative behavior led to recompense in the first place, instead seemingly interpreting it as [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3#Summary|a magic phrase to clear his slate]] so he can continue his self-serving endeavors unimpeded.

==Motivation to apologize==
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|TL;DR: I'm sorry, now give me money.]]
As explained above, Chris's logic when it comes to matters of right and wrong is almost wholly reactionary. His rationale for apologizing follows the same pattern. He issues them only when made fully aware that he won't get what he wants unless he at least tries to appear genuinely remorseful.

Every apology Chris has ever made can be immediately connected to something Chris wants, and thinks he'll get if he says the magic words "I'm sorry". We almost never have to guess what that thing might be, he almost always mentions his desired goal in the same paragraph, sometimes even in the next sentence.
{{Quote|I wish to apologize to [[Michael Snyder]] for that mistake I made over nine months ago that got me kicked out of The GAMe PLACe... I miss my Friday nights over there… and also... y’all are the only place in town that has, uh, Eye of Judgment cards.|Chris, [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|apologizing in order to buy stuff]].}}
{{Quote|I apologize for the past unformalities[sic] and emotional outbursts in past communications... I ask for 25% of all money... you have and will have made from all [the [[audiobooks]]] you have put together and sold.|Chris, apologizing for sending [[Vivian Gee|Vivian]] a fucking [[Death threats|death threat]] ... [[Chris and reality|so that she'll pay him]].}}
[[File:154-ApologyLetter.jpg|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
Because Chris's apologies spring from this simplistic cause-and-effect mentality, things tend to get interesting when whoever he's issuing them to tells him that all is not well and that he is not forgiven. In [[I am Alive|one notable case]], he admitted to ungentlemanly conduct regarding his feud with [[Asperchu]]. It was a fairly obvious attempt to get [[CWCipedia#CWCipedia advertisements|certain ads removed from the CWCipedia]], but, notably, he announced his intention to kill off the character of [[Simonla Rosechu]], in accordance with [[Evan|her creator's]] wishes. He didn't act quickly enough, and CWCipedia was taken down from the web altogether. Although his anger was understandable, Chris revealed in [[9 February 2010|his next video]] that he had never intended to kill Simonla in the first place, and that the apology was not TRUE and HONEST. We had all suspected as much, but it's nice to get a confirmation once in a while. After CWCipedia returned, he did indeed kill Simonla, but only under pressure, and in the most contrived, dull, yet very lulzy way possible.

The one apology that arguably highlights Chris's insincerity the most is his in-comic apology to the Asperpedia Four, which takes place ''while [[Chris and hypocrisy#"I would have them ESS-acuted!" — Capital Punishment|condemning them to death]]''. The cognitive dissonance this creates would be overwhelming to any sane person, but [[Autism|for some reason]], Chris thought that this ludicrous non-apologetic apology was both okay and that the recipients would accept it as genuine. In that very same issue, in fact, Chris at one point sheds a tear after sealing up the populated [[4-cent garbage.com]] building and destroying it. You know, because faking remorse with crocodile tears ''totally'' justifies mass murder.

Chris's insincerity can also be seen in Chris's misadventures with [[The Wallflower]]. When the shit hit the fan and she cut off all ties with him, he made his usual [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|pathetic display of sorrow]], making it very clear in the process that he had only wanted her for [[sex]]. When his apology failed to work as planned, Chris became very angry and spiteful, and started [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|demanding that she apologize for hurting ''his'' feelings]].

Another came from his apology note on his [[Facebook]] discovered in [[October 2012]]. In it, he seemingly came to the realization that he had massively messed up, that about as many laughs had been gotten from him as possible and that he was sorry for it all happening. Surprisingly, it was a very well-written, unselfish apology that would seem somewhat convincing - right until he demanded that all instances of trolling and [[CWCki|websites]] [[CWCki Forums|dedicated]] [[/cwc/|to]] [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|him]] be stopped and removed, and there was absolutely no mention made of him making any attempt to straighten up. All he wanted was all the bad stuff about him removed so he can feel better about himself. Had he not included that, people might have actually taken him seriously, but, [[nudes|as]] [[28 October 2011|usual]], he had to fuck himself over.
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==Common traits of a CWC apology==

===Explanation===
One recurring element in Chris's admissions of guilt is an explanation of why he did whatever he's apologizing for. The way these speeches are worded often indicates that Chris believes that if we just understood his intentions, we would all agree with him and that nobody would be offended.

A famous example appears in the [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]] video. Chris explains that yes, he videotaped himself performing a selection of disturbing sex acts, but it was all for his sweetheart [[Ivy]], and this evidently renders his actions understandable and acceptable. Supposedly speaking to a young child who was deeply disturbed by his behavior, he tells her that his behavior was perfectly reasonable because he is both an adult and human. This combination of warped logic and an even more warped worldview was a crucial component of his breakthrough into mainstream infamy.

Another good example would be the time he [[Twin Falling Towers|used the worst terrorist attack in American history for an exceedingly bad joke]]. After learning that [[Kacey]] came from a military family, Chris did what was expected of him and made a [[Apology for 9/11 Joke|public apology]]. However, he was more concerned with continuing to slander [[Clyde Cash]] and assuring us he was a [[United States of America|good American]] (although he didn't know the words to his own national anthem)<ref>[[Mumble 7#summary|Mumble Chat 7]]</ref><ref>[[Red Letter CWC Certified Day]]</ref> than with actually expressing remorse and making an attempt at recompense.
[[Image:SnuffOutClyde.jpg|thumb|This looks like a good idea.]]
{{Quote|The joke was mainly directed to how WEAK Clyde Cash was only, I had no idea or intention of offending anyone, other than Clyde, on such a massive world-wide level.|[[Apology_for_9/11_Joke#Apology_image_text|Chris's written apology]].}}

Within the same video, he changed the photoshop he'd done of the World Trade Center towers into birthday candles. That he saw no problem in presenting an image of the two buildings on fire and repeatedly calling them weak while he asserted that he was a good American proves that he [[Slow-in-the-mind|completely missed the point]] of what he was supposed to be apologizing for. He was far more concerned with sullying Clyde's name than with any blowback or offense his comments might have caused.

In at least one case, though, Chris came up with a nonsensical reason related to [[CWCville|his fictional universe]] for something he did wrong [[Chris and reality|as though it would be easily understood by anyone else as truth]]. Specifically, when Chris attempted reparations with [[Mary Lee Walsh]], he explained that by slandering the "real" Mary Lee Walsh via comic villain counterpart, he allowed an evil witch to soil her reputation and that by retconning the "evil" Mary as Slaweel with her being portrayed getting arrested, he expected the "good/real" Mary would accept this so-called "apology" with only a happy ending as a result (not once admitting to violating campus regulations ''countless times'', let alone personally attacking her when she tried to hash things out with him in her office).

===Rationalization===

Chris is incredibly self-righteous. In his mind he is the only decent man left in the world, and everybody else is a stupid, evil [[JERKS|JERK]] whose sole mission in life is to cockblock him because he is [[Autism|special]], and furthermore out of jealousy for his [[Chris and his Ego|many]] [[Chris and reality|"successes"]] in life. This mindset gives Chris all the justification he needs to mistreat others, because as far as he's concerned they're all the bad guys, standing in the way of his [[Love Quest|heroic quest]].

This "Everything I do is right" mindset shows through when he is forced to talk about his prior transgressions. Chris might offer a half-assed apology, simply to conform to the wishes of whoever he's talking to, but it will often be accompanied by a long explanation as to why he ''had'' to do it.

{{Quote|I was wrong... I pretended to be him yet he was the liar. I'm the real deal... So on that one part I was wrong for the right reasons.|Chris, [[I Love You Kacey|almost admitting wrongdoing]].}}

He exhibited this self-righteous attitude many times in the [[CChanSonichuCWC|Liquid Chris]] saga: because he is the TRUE and HONEST Christian, this gave him the right to [[For Kacey from CWC|attempt to steal Liquid's girlfriend by]] [[Kacey Phone Call|pretending to be him]], and then [[SHE IS MINE NOW|gloat about it once he apparently achieved his aim]]. Once again, Chris saw no wrong in this. Since Liquid wronged him by trolling him in the first place, anything he did in response was entirely justified.

Though as it would later turn out, [[Chris and his ego|ego]] is not the only culprit behind Chris rationalizing deeds he should be apologetic for.

For a more recent example, Chris (in the throes of declining mental health) justified himself initiating his affair with Barb by arguing [[Jail Communications|in statements he wrote following his arrest]] that he did it as a form of divine intervention to "purify" his elderly mother of her sins. To pour salt on an open gash, he eventually flat out ''denied'' that his "Soul-Bonding" was ever sexual in nature ([[Incest Call|despite earlier admissions to sexual conduct with his mom existing]]), once again proving that Chris doesn't truly feel remorse for any wrongdoing he commits.

==="Maturing"===

{{quote| I Have Matured.|Chris's catchphrase}}

Ever since the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]], Chris had the tendency to claim that he has not only learned his lesson but that he has also "[[Adult Chronicles|matured]]". More than anything, Chris uses this as an excuse to avoid any kind of responsibility or backlash from trolls, who understandably view him as childish for many of his interests and actions.

==Retraction==

Chris, believing that his actions are always right, nearly always has to be pressured into making any form of apology at all. Most, if not all, of his apology messages, are motivated by the people he [[Fuck Quest|physically desires]] (be they obvious troll or otherwise) or [[Asperchu|desires to appease]], rather than the public outcry he causes, and certainly not by any true sense of guilt. His retraction of an apology is often redundant because nobody believed he was truly remorseful in the first place, and just as hollow as the apology itself, in that Chris is quite happy to lie to [[Chris and his Ego|save face]] or to gain [[china|something he wants]]. For instance, Chris '''finally''' [[02 March 2010|'sincerely' apologized to Alec and Mao]] for his actions towards them on 2 March 2010. However, only a month later, on 8 April, he was talking to [[Jackie_E-mails#Chris's only friends: trolls and his parents|Jackie]] and, in an attempt to gain sympathy from her, claimed that Alec was "trying to one-up [him] for months now".

When trolls hacked his PSN accounts, Chris made [[a near public apology]]. A blatant attempt to get his PSN account back, the apology was, of course, chock full of lies and insincerity.

One of his favorite ways to smite his [[Clyde Cash|invisible internet enemies]] and [[jerkop|real-life foes alike]] is to lay a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] upon them; thinking that he has powers akin to something more along the lines of Wicca, Voodoo, or Goku from [[Dragon Ball Z|DBZ]] than with the [[Chris and religion|Christianity]] he supposedly practices. He only issued the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction]] after [[Kacey|his latest e-girlfriend]] told him that he shouldn't have used the Curse-ye-ha-me-ha in the first place.

Considering that he [[Surfshack Tito (video)|quickly returned]] to his ways of cursing, [[Don't Mess With Me|threatening]], and [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|insulting]] his enemies, the sentiment obviously didn't stick.

==Shifting blame==

When Chris isn't trying to justify the trouble he causes, he usually resorts to blaming others. The most famous example is him blaming [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] for the end of his friendship with [[Megan]], even though it was because of a picture he himself thought up, drew, and then uploaded to his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|article]]. Chris had it literally screamed at him in [[Mumble 3]], but then, as now, he still doesn't know the true reason. The best anyone has ever been able to extract from Chris is that he came on too strong. While technically true, this is a vast understatement that fails to capture the massive amount of fault which lies with Chris (that is to say, all of it).

====The Wallflower====

Chris went to great lengths to keep the knowledge of [[The Wallflower]] away from the slanderous trolls of the Internet. However, he really wanted to credit her in one of his sycophantic Little Big Planet levels. Chris asked Wallflower if she thought it would be safe to credit Wallflower by her FF.net penname. Wallflower agreed as she was unable to find any obvious trails leading from her FF.net account to her Facebook account. Unfortunately for both of them, trolls still managed to find a link between the two accounts within 24 hours of Chris dropping her pen name. After she was linked to the site and promptly horrified by how much of her personal information had been compromised, she politely requested that the article be reworked with her privacy in mind. As much of the information in the original Wallflower article had very little to do with Chris, the request was deemed reasonable and the admins of the CWCki complied.

Frightened and disgusted by what she had found, [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|she broke off all contact with Chris]]. She also clarified to the CWCki admins that they had never dated, never had any kind of relationship beyond casual association, and before her introduction to the CWCki she really didn't know much about him at all. Chris, however, [[Chris and reality|not to be deterred]], proclaimed many times that they had [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|been on several dates]], and [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|"Shared DNA"]], along with enjoying a kiss and massage. Since this would have been Chris's "real" first kiss (aside from "[[Chloe]]", a lie), it was considered important by obsessive CWCki editors to see if he remembers it later (The Wallflower CWCipedia page article was written on April the 19th). However, [[Jackie e-mails Part 2|leaked e-mails from Jackie]] show that by the 10th of April, ''nine days before making this highly suspicious claim'', [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Jackie's_Questionaire_1|Chris had either momentarily forgotten that he had been kissed]], something that would have been a monumental occasion in his life, lied on his CWCipedia about being kissed, or lied to Jackie about ''not'' being kissed (though that is very unlikely). Either way, he still lied about the kiss, although it's ''possible'' he's basing his story on a gross exaggeration of the truth (the two sharing a drinking straw is the current troll favorite for this).

In the month following their "breakup", Chris would go on to blame The Wallflower for [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|having an internet presence at all]]. From Chris's perspective, the whole incident was Wallflower's fault for having a Facebook page for trolls to discover in the first place. Chris repeatedly insisted that ''Wallflower'' was the one who needed to apologize to him (as she had okayed the use of her screen name), despite the fact that putting her screen name in the level was his idea in the first place. More than a year after the debacle, Chris [[Calling Out|made it obvious]] that he believes that the person who should apologize to Wallflower is Surfshack Tito rather than himself.

====Forgetting====

Aside from directly shifting the blame by [[List of Chris's lies|lying]], Chris has been frequently known to "forget" important, critical details of his life, typically memories that either make him either look or feel bad. When [[Jackie E-mails|Jackie]] was flirting with him by e-mails and found out about the CWCki, she asked Chris about cheating on [[Ivy]] with [[Vanessa]], the full details of which are documented right [[Ivy|here]]. Chris, of course, claimed flat out that the whole thing was a troll deception and that Jackie shouldn't believe it. When Jackie informed Chris she found a video of him admitting it and confessing, Chris claimed he [[Jackie E-mails 2#Chris "forgot" he cheated on Ivy|"forgot" this "portion"]].

On [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 27th, 2008|October 27th in 2008]], Chris nervously announced he had found his one true sweetheart; [[Chloe]]. Many things immediately leapt out at the trolls as being lies, including his previous announcements on an [[Chris's Sonichu IRC Chloe Introduction|IRC chat]]. Due to Chris's unreliable short-term memory and inaction on the part of [[trolls]], after the 27 October video Chloe was never mentioned again in a video by Chris. A little more than a year later, in [[Mailbag 13]], rather than simply admit he was lying, Chris claimed "I currently have no recollection of a Chloe", even though she was supposedly the woman he had his first real kiss with.

In [[Mumble 6#On The Transgender Community|Mumble 6]], the troll army called out Chris on his statements regarding transgendered women. Chris claims that he forgot his previous statement, which may or may not be completely honest. In any event, Chris has discovered that (real or otherwise) a faulty memory is a socially acceptable way to dodge probing questions about one's past lies.

== Index of Chris's apologies ==

Below is an abridged list of Chris's various apologies for his many, many misdeeds. Small apologies may have been missed here and there, but these are the big ones.

* When Megan [[Megan Emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG|called Chris out on his reprehensible actions]] regarding the porn he drew of her, he first [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris apologizes for something, what could it be?|copy-pasted "Megan, I'm sorry for hurting you."]] fifteen times in an e-mail to her, then [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|went into detail about how a handjob works]], figuring that [[virgin with rage|sexual frustration]] and [[naive|ignorance]] were the root causes of her [[Chris and anger|anger]]. Yeah, about that...
* After Chris was banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he tried several times to get unbanned. The first was [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|a video where Chris apologies just so he can buy more junk]]. The [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|second]] was where he prepared a script, stashed a camera in his pocket, then walked into The Game Place to confront [[Michael Snyder]], claiming he had changed and apologizing for his actions. After Michael flatly refused to listen and called the cops, Chris berated him and hoped God would forgive him for being so "heartless and cruel". Mike responded "He probably will", and Chris stormed out, but not before calling him a Jew.
* After threatening [[Vivian]]'s life when she made better [[audiobooks]] than he did, Chris apologized to her... then made a demand for a cut of her "profits", the two sentences separated by only a single dot.
* Chris made an [[A near public apology|apology video]] after [[CWC Calls Out Three Naïve YouTubers|releasing a series of videos insulting various YouTubers.]] Aside from sounding half-assed and insincere about it, Chris's motivation for doing so was clear: his PSN account was being held hostage by the last YouTuber he had insulted.
* In [[I am Alive]], Chris apologizes for his ungentlemanly conduct in regard to Asperchu. This was a transparent attempt to get the [[homo]] ads removed from the [[CWCipedia]] and his behavior [[9 February 2010|subsequent]] to this apology proved he meant nothing he said in the video.
* In [[Sonichu 10]], Chris apologized to the Asperchu Four ''while simultaneously having them brutally executed'', including having one of them killed by a [[Sandy|toddler]].
* After [[April 16 Fetish Vids|filming himself performing sex acts for Ivy]], Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|apologized for his actions]], supposedly to a [[Ching Chong|young girl]] who had found the footage and was scarred by it. But he structured his apology to state that his behavior was, in fact, completely normal and that she shouldn't feel bad for watching it.
* In [[Matthew 5 27, CWC Confessions]], Chris apologized for cheating on [[Ivy]].
* In 2009, Chris apologized to [[Mary Lee Walsh]]... for slandering her via his fictionalized villainous counterpart using her name (not for his actively defiant and vindictive behavior towards her, mind you). The contradictory nature of the [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retcon]] aside, Chris drew up a picture depicting this very act of remorse and even went to the trouble of ''delivering a hand-framed copy to her office'', to which she responded with legal action. [[Mailbag_26#Mary_Lee_Walsh_trolls_IRL|Chris took this as well as you'd expect]].
* After [[Twin Falling Towers|mocking the worst act of terrorism]] in United States history, Chris made a subsequent [[Apology for 9/11 Joke|apology video]]...which featured the Twin Towers as candles on a birthday cake, complete with multiple gouts of flame flying from the top.
* When [[Kacey]] discovered Chris had pretended to be the [[Liquid Chris|other, better Chris]] in order to get a travel visa to [[China]], Chris apologized by way of his video [[I Love You Kacey]], where he claimed he "...was wrong for the right reasons."
* Chris '''finally''' [[02 March 2010|'sincerely' apologized to Alec and Mao]] for his actions towards them on the 2nd of March. However, only a month later on the 8th of April, he was talking to [[Jackie E-mails#Chris's only friends: trolls and his parents|Jackie]] and, in an attempt to gain sympathy from her, claimed that Alec was "trying to one-up [him] for months now".
*On 21 [[October 2012]], Chris posted a public [[Facebook]] status [[Facebook#Please forgive me!|apologizing]] for past misdeeds. He immediately asked that all online groups and "individual hatreds" be disbanded.
* On 17 [[December 2014]], [[Apology Letters‎|three letters]] were leaked on the CWCki Forums that Chris wrote to the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], [[Wal-Mart]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Naturally, in each one, he shoehorns in references to [[troll]]s causing [[stress]].
* On 29 [[October 2015]], Chris uploaded a [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.|YouTube video]] explaining his apology for his prior homophobia. However, barely 1 minute into the video, he stressed the importance of [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] being straight, showing a facet of his old self that hadn't truly disappeared completely.
* On 20 [[December 2020]], Chris was forced to apologize for being accused of stealing mods (which was backed by evidence). Chris, being controlled by Sonichu Prime denounces these claims yet "apologizes" anyway, owing to the issues being due to him still learning about modding and using Blender. He ended the tirade by telling the haters to be grateful and stop badmouthing him.
* On 24 [[September 2021]], in a [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|letter]] dated five days prior, Chris stated that he intended to enact 'repentance' for his crime of stealing 750 dollars from his aging mother's bank account - a crime he attempted to rationalize only moments before by citing his own poor finances and his fears arising from being made temporarily homeless, and for which he attempted to shift blame by claiming that Null had personally betrayed his trust and failed his 'destined test' by alerting others of his act of theft. Not a word was spared for [[Affair with Mother|certain other offenses]], just as recent and even more damning. Chris followed this with an April Fools video about 5 years later, where he sings "[[I Got A Fish]].<ref>[[CLog 04012026 - A Confession]]</ref>

==Conclusion==

To Chris, remorse is nothing more than a formality that he must pantomime in order to get what he wants. Chris rarely, if at all, ever feels guilt for something he has said or done and expects either pity and sympathy or for those he hurt to forgive and forget. If you expect that he would ever be sincerely sorry for anything he does without an ulterior motive behind it, you are expecting way too much of him.

==See also==
* [[Chris and morality]]

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Chris and hypocrisy

2026-04-30T16:35:17Z

FurryChristorian789: /* See also */

{{quote|You're all just immature, [[naïve]], condescending, soulless monsters. You don't care about others, [[Chris and his ego|you only care about yourselves]]. You only care about getting your own laughs and kicks, because you don't h- you don't have your own social life!|[[Chris]], describing himself.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Z100 0533.jpg|thumb|Chris breaking almost 30 years of proud sobriety due to the influence of ''[[The Simpsons]]''.]]

'''Hypocrisy''' is the act of claiming to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have.<ref>[[wikt:hypocrisy|Wiktionary: hypocrisy]]</ref>

Chris is an accomplished hypocrite, holding others to standards that he himself does not live up to. This is possibly due to the fact that he's incapable of serious [[Chris and introspection|introspection and self-examination]] due to his [[autism]] (but on a more self-inflicted level, his [[ego]]). He's so strongly opinionated and drunk on his e-fame, so he sees himself as a [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|role model]] that could change the world. He doesn't necessarily want to change it for the better, but he wants to change the world into one where everyone conforms to his worldview and showers him with praise so he will never again have to [[Chris and stress|feel uncomfortable]], [[Sonic Boom Protests|suffer any inconveniences]], or be forced to actually [[Chris and work|put effort into anything]]. This means arrogantly pointing out the sins of others but never answering to his own, which leads to Chris doling out advice to others that he should be heeding himself.

Chris's [[Mailbag]] answers are particularly rich sources of hypocrisy, where he readily gives advice to people that he himself will never follow.

==Examples==
=== "You grow up!" - Maturity ===
{{quote|You're pitiful! Dang dirty trolls! So get it together! Move out of your basements!|Chris<ref>[[Show RESPECT to me, "C"CWC]]</ref>}}

In the latter half of [[2009]], Chris had become fond of telling his [[trolls]] and detractors to "grow up". This was coming from a 27 year-old who was living with his parents continually since graduating [[high school]], [[Chris's resume|has only been employed]] for two months of his entire life, lives in a room full of [[toys]], plays [[video games]] all day, refers to things that make him feel uncomfortable with [[CWC-isms|childish euphemisms]], [[Chris and fashion|dresses like a toddler]], [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shits himself]], and is dependent on his parents (and the [[Monthly tugboat|U.S. government]]) to the point of absurdity.

Chris has not moved on past high school. In his 30s, he still wears his [[high school ring]], uses his old high school colors in [[art]] projects (and when he wants to portray [[Cherokian Clan|Native Americans]]), and keeps his high school yearbooks within easy reach. Chris's characters are examples of this as well. Despite ostensibly being 18–22 years old, the [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] sometimes don [[:Image:MegagiDecay.jpg|cheerleading outfits]] outside of sexual roleplay and, like him, are rarely gainfully employed. Aged 27, Chris dispensed [[CWC Blog|dating advice]] to high school freshman. A master of subtlety, Chris named one of the villains in his comics "[[Count Graduon]]" in reference to his much hated [[Manchester High School#Graduation|high school graduation]].

There is also a chance that Chris, just as it is the case with the word "[[naïve]]", has been called out on his stupid bullshit numerous times with the command "grow up", and as a result views the phrase as a very harsh insult meant to be used on your enemies.

In short, Chris idealizes his youth while demonizing the present, as high school was a simpler time when he had a [[Gal-pals|social circle]], [[Biological clock|regular sleep patterns]], and some purpose in life apart from playing video games and debasing himself on the Internet.

==="Spamming actual hate speech (Get A Job)" - [[Work]] ===
{{quote|I say move on; GET A JOB, DUDE.|Chris<ref name="mail7">[[Mailbag 7]]</ref>}}
[[Image:TwofacedCWC.jpg|thumb|"No, I am not being two-faced. I have been one-f-, I have been the one-faced this whole conversation."<ref>[[Father Call]]</ref>]]

Chris also likes to tell people to get jobs while he himself has been employed for about two months of his entire life. On his [[Chris's resume|résumé]] from 2009, Chris lists playing [[Pokémon]] cards with small children as volunteer work. Chris sometimes claims he was supervising or babysitting the children involved,<ref>[[Father Call#The Pokémon Volunteer Who Lives with His Parents (4:28-11:01)|Father Call (4:28-11:01)]]</ref> where in reality Chris himself required some amount of supervision not to fuck up the [[The Game Place|hobby store]] where he played [[card games]] (and still ended up getting banned anyway).

Much like how acclaimed author [[Wikipedia:J. K. Rowling|J. K. Rowling]] went on benefits for a year or two so she'd have the time to write the first ''[[Harry Potter]]'' book (a franchise which went on to make her one of the richest women in the world), Chris avoided searching for employment to focus on merchandising ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''. And that takes an hour or two at most: Chris will draw and color a comic page or two, make videos, or astonish [[Charlottesville]] residents with his [[Sonichu's Edge|Parkay]] skills in a bizarre marketing stunt. The rest of Chris's time is apparently spent playing [[List of Chris's games|video games]], [[Adult Swim|watching TV]] and [[List of Chris's PSN game downloads|downloading]] extra content for his video games. Chris has an abundance of free time where he could easily work a full-time job and still find the time to draw ''Sonichu''. That is, if Chris were employable.

In addition to this, Chris fails at having some basic skills one would need to keep employment, such as: keeping his [[Death threats|murderous rage]] in check, maintaining [[Chris and health#Hygiene|basic hygiene]], [[Chris and fashion|dressing appropriately]], showing [[Chris and race|tolerance]] and [[Chris and kindness|respect]] for other people, and [[Megan Schroeder|keeping his hands off women]].

=== "These busses are full of nutty 'slow-in-the-minds.'" - Other people with mental disabilities ===
{{quote|yeeeeeah... generally, I do not feel comfortable associating with other autistic people, especially the non-high-funcional; it would be like looking through a window to hell to me.|Chris <ref name="irc1708">[[IRC (17 December 2008)]]</ref>}}

While happily claiming disability when it suits him (i.e. when he gets [[money]] and/or [[White knights|sympathy]] from it), Chris gladly reminds everyone that he's a (high-functioning) [[autistic]]. However, Chris distances himself from others with autism, calling them "[[slow-in-the-minds]]" and "windows to hell."<ref name="irc1708" /> Chris specifically excluded "the low functionally mentally handicapped," "the [[Chris and health|seriously physically deformed]]," and the "Autistic, high-functionally or otherwise" from an actual list of criteria women would have to meet before he would consider dating them. By his own admission, Chris is "sometimes retarded"<ref>[[Mumble 9.5]]</ref> and is abnormally proud that he is on the autism spectrum. In fact, right below his rigorous standards for his future girlfriend, he admits that he himself is autistic but claims "[[Ego|that's another story]]."

Chris denies that any of his Sonichu characters are autistic. Yet they're all copyright-infringing little Mary Sues who need to be in the [[Dating education|special classes]] Chris thought up and every so often display debilitating social anxiety around the opposite sex. Back when Chris made his own Pokémon cards, he thought up an "autistic Pokémon" named Plautistic (who could disable its own attacks), but this only appears on the cover of ''[[Christian's Favorite Hits!]]'' and nowhere else.

In the [[Mailbag]]s, Chris dismisses any similarity between autism and [[Asperger's syndrome]], another disorder on the autism spectrum. Chris went so far as to create a specific section for autism-related emails, and then a [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|frothing rant on CWCipedia]] where he rails against those with Asperger's syndrome. The abridged version of Chris's reasoning is that by having a higher-functioning form of autism than Chris, they're diminishing Chris's own accomplishments. Chris considers [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|everything he's done so far]] special because he has autism. To date, the only things Chris has actually accomplished are graduating from high school and a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|third-rate community college]], which most people could do with little effort.

Despite likening the mentally handicapped to reanimated walking corpses, Chris bases a large part of his identity around having autism, whether he's triumphing over it by being able to [[Chores|mow a lawn]] or he's using it as an excuse to sit around and play ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' all day. Incidentally, this behavior is actually somewhat common with teenage girls with bipolar disorder (real, self-diagnosed or imagined), where they'll brag about how terribly bad their bipolar disorder is, how much lithium they're on, and so forth. Most grow out of it by the time they're eighteen.

Inversely, while Chris has repeatedly displayed intolerance of other autistics (and special-needs folks in general), he has also outright accused [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|some]] [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked_out_of_English|authority]] [[Michael Snyder|figures]] of discrimination towards autistics due to incidents that negatively impacted ''[[Chris and his ego|him]]'' in some way, even going so far as to [[Greene County Conspiracy|machinate a belief]] that a local school board conspired with a game store manager to ruin his life.

=== "I'll pray for you to open your mind" - Tolerance ===
{{quote|...obviously you have not opened your mind to all things in life, and your religion is a closed-minded one.|Chris, shortly after condemning homosexuality<ref name="mail7" />}}

It's very much in Chris's interests that others tolerate him and his odd behavior. Chris's life is defined by mannerisms that can charitably be described as unorthodox. His autism certainly shapes some of his lesser quirks, but he's also picked up some very strange ideas. He thinks it's normal for adults to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shit their pants]] on a routine basis, and he found nothing strange about jerking off into a [[fapcup|cup]] and [[recycling|chugging it down]]. He once uploaded a [[YouTube]] video where he [[The Return of Kimmi|made out with a sex doll]] with a picture of his sweetheart taped to its face because he thought it was an endearing act that his sweetheart would want to see. He had a store clerk [[Muscle bra|fit him for a bra]] that he wears happily. He uses his [[Sonichu (comic)|children's comic]] to express and explore his [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|sexual fantasies and desires]], and to mete out [[Sub-Episodes|harsh]], sometimes [[Sonichu 10#Forgiveness...?|lethal punishment]] on his perceived antagonists. And he's [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009#Watch|made statements]] to indicate he's [[Chris and Remorse|not ashamed]] of these actions, regardless of what anyone says.

So in order to continue to do whatever he wants to do and not be made fun of, he explains these things away by essentially saying, "everyone does it and you should still consider me normal," even though he'd probably be hard-pressed to name another guy his age that shits himself as much as he does. Deep down, he probably knows some of these things are fucked up, but finds living up to the standards of society to be a huge inconvenience. So he expects others to change their perceptions so that they can accept him and all of the things he doesn't want to change. In instances where someone might think he's a weirdo, Chris preaches tolerance and insists others open their minds to different ideas and not be so judgmental.

However, this doesn't work both ways with Chris. Chris wants people to open their minds to his foibles, but once he's made up his mind that a group of people are doing things that he considers negative, suddenly tolerance goes out the window and he will refuse to show them even the slightest amount of respect and acceptance.

An example of Chris not accepting others came about during the aforementioned war in his mind being waged against Asperger's syndrome. [[Mailbag 7|When a fan mail submission]] pointed out how stubborn it was to close his mind to documented facts about Asperger's syndrome, Chris refused any concessions, though in the very next letter he berated someone for following what he called a closed-minded religion and said he'd pray for her to open her [[china|mind]].

In another example, Chris is sickened by the idea of [[homos]]exuality and [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet#Take_2|can't even bring himself to say the word "gay"]], though he will say the word "homo" if he's using it as an insult. He's gone on record as saying he [[CWC Update 30 January 2009|hates gay people]], [[Megan_E-mails#Chris_is_angry_about_Megan_kissing_her_friend.2C_then_pities_himself|is afraid of them]], and would outlaw them if he had the power to do so. Chris has [[Mailbag_1#The_cure_for_homosexuality|envisioned a future where scientists have created a cure for being gay]], and has incorporated this idea into [[Sonichu 10|issue ten]] of his kiddie comic strip. This immense hatred burns deep within him despite the fact that only one supposedly gay person (his [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|elementary school]] principal)<ref name="Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8">[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8]]</ref> had done anything negative to him in his entire life, until [[Jack Thaddeus]] began to interact with Chris. Though in contrast (as far as Chris is aware) Jack was also the person providing Chris with free hosting for the [[CWCipedia]], which at least makes up for some degree of harassment he has given Chris. It was only later that he'd been led to believe that [[Clyde Cash]] was gay as well. He'd stated to [[Megan]] that he had these feelings about gays even before he met her gay friend Christopher (whom he illogically suspected of trying to sleep with Megan). He simply hates them because they exist, and has refused to tolerate them all his life. Despite his past fervor, he has stated that he "(does) and will NOT Discriminated homosexuals as Individual People" and that "What they do behind closed doors is None Of My Business, and I still Do Not Care to know a Damn Thing about it."<ref>[[Common Questions#1 January 2010|Common Questions, January 2010]]</ref> Which is why he employs an [[Magi-Chan|omniscient being]] to [[Mailbag 31#Magi-Chan knows when you fuck|spy on people and punish them]] for what they do behind closed doors. Which brings us to...

=== "I shoved them up my ass" - [[Homos|Homosexuality]] ===
{{quote|While effeminancy is true for us, I feel the contents of that page (the Wikipedia page on "effeminacy") is against us, due to it addressing the homos.|Chris<ref>[[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]]</ref>}}

Chris is resolute in his beliefs that [[homos]] are an abomination before GodJesus. But he does make exceptions if the gay person has a [[china]]. During an [[IRC (02 January 2009)|IRC Chat]] he granted lesbians complete amnesty, saying that if he were in charge, it would be "illegal and forbidden to have homo Men; women are safe." When pressed on why it's okay for women to be gay and not men, he fell back on his "all men are [[JERKS]]" defense by saying, "it's bad enough they're mostly jerks, plus homo men are AGAINST God's will." However, later that month in a [[Mumble_1#Gays.2C_lesbians_and_men_in_general|Mumble chat]], he softened his stance on whether or not it's okay for women to be gay by saying he would "100% discourage" gay men, but for gay women, he will "partial courage." While Chris often quotes the Bible when explaining his hatred of homosexuals, when pressed about his own abominations he will go into a confusing rant about how God only wants people to be happy and not worry about a myriad of rules. In a stunning display of hypocrisy, Chris is quite adamant to others that he is not wrong in ignoring any Old Testament verses against pornography or masturbation, as the Old Testament is "more for Jewish people," but the one Old Testament passage regarding homosexuality that he heard on ''[[Family Guy]]'' is still valid.

In his [[Date Ed#Chris Chan’s Heroic Dream for Our Community NOW and in the Future|essay about]] his utterly [[Slow-in-the-Minds|retarded]] idea for [[dating education]], he claims that homosexual relations are "unnatural", [[Honor roll|despite over 300 species of animals]], including [[May 2015 Facebook posts#Did I Forget to Tell You About the Bonobos?|bonobos]], practicing it. Apparently, there is only one species that practices homophobia. Go figure.

In the world of ''Sonichu'', the villainous [[Reldnahc]] is gay, but the [[Heather Iglesias|nanny for Sonichu and Rosechu's kids]] is also gay. She's on the side of good because she's a lesbian, though she's been instructed to keep her [[Silvana|trap]] shut about it. [[Mailbag 4#In which Chris is rude to a young girl|A fan letter]] confronted Chris with the hypocrisy of having lesbians in the comic despite his viewpoints and fine Christian morals. While Chris answered parts of the letter, he conveniently ignored that point. Likely, Chris makes this exception because it would be difficult for him to [[mass debating|fap]] to all the [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|lesbian porn]] he watches and not feel conflicted.

He also will make exceptions if gays do voices in his [[LittleBigPlanet|favorite video games]]. A member of his [[Monty Python|favorite comedy troupe]] was gay, though it's not clear if Chris knows that. But it does seem clear that whether it's porn, TV or video games, as long as Chris is entertained by a gay person, Chris somehow exempts them from the abomination rule.

His hatred towards gays and everything they stand for contrasts very sharply to some of his actions. Chris had no qualms with drinking his own [[semen]], and said he would even go as far as [[Kacey Phone Call|licking his semen off his beloved]]. He's admitted to being plagued by [[Mailbag 4|homoerotic thoughts]]. He loves [[rainbow]]s and has frequently put them in his comics. Chris liked the PS2 game ''[[Wikipedia:Katamari Damacy|Katamari Damacy]]'' enough to quote it in some of his videos, a game that features a character wearing a flamboyant ensemble that shows off his huge [[Pickle|schlong]] clearly visible through his tights. He once referred to himself as coming [[IRC (20 January 2009)|"out of his autistic closet."]] He loves gay anthems, such as "[[Chris's Big Night Out|I Love the Nightlife]]," and listens to music that is also iconic with gay men, such as the [[Wikipedia:Backstreet Boys|Backstreet Boys]] and [[Britney Spears]]. He loves romantic comedy films and even owns a copy of the ''Sex and the City'' movie. Chris also practices [[Tomgirl Pictures|crossdressing]], and has shoved enough [[Sex toys|things]] up his ass to warrant [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|an entire CWCki page on the subject]].<ref>[[Bluespike PSN Chat 3]]</ref> That should say enough about this matter.

In short, many gay men don't act as stereotypically gay as Chris does sometimes, but he still feels justified at leveling his disapproving scorn at them.

=== "No female soul whatsoever" - [[Transphobia]] ===
While Chris has requested that people respect his identity change after coming out as [[transgender]], he has not demonstrated this same courtesy to another transgender person on one occasion - while under the [[manipulation]] of troll character [[Jeff/Francine]], a purported transwoman, Chris used her deadname (Jeff). He also mocked the status of Francine's gender transitioning and called her a "lady-man".<ref>[[Doxing_Jeff/Francine]]</ref> Soon after, he used masculine pronouns to describe Francine, said that she was "no woman", and mocked the fact that she went through a gender reassignment surgery, [[Chris and his ego|while also boasting about his own progress in transitioning]] (despite the fact that he looks largely the same as he did pre-transition, only growing his hair out and looking more bloated than usual).<ref>[[I Am me; He is not]]</ref>

In spite of this, the Jeff/Francine example has proven to be an anomaly, as Chris has used preferred pronouns and identities of other transgender people, such as the MTF violet4151<ref>[[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To]]</ref> and [[Miss Cherry]], and the FTM Lukas of the [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]].

=== "You thieving impostor!" - Chris's creations ===
{{quote|Jack Thaddeus... is wrongfully advertising his FAN FICTION, and I emphasize fan fiction, and parodic [[Asperchu]]|Chris, the TRUE AND HONEST creator of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], complaining about fan fiction.<ref name="dwasperchu">[[Down with Asperchu]]</ref>}}

Chris is extremely protective of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and the whole [[Sonichu (comic)|media franchise]] he has created.

If Chris had actually shown any originality, this wouldn't really be a problem: he'd have full rights to do whatever he wants with his own original creations. As [[Chris and copyright|discussed elsewhere]], however, Chris has neither the rights to Sonichu nor an original work.

Fundamentally, Chris's creations are a bizarre maelstrom of various fan fiction elements with various bits stolen from a [[Things Chris has Ripped Off|great number of sources]]. Chris has outright admitted that he steals material from various shows.<ref>[[Common Questions#Answered 28 December 2009|Common Questions, December 2009]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 35#In which Chris tells us that we need to go look up what he stole from|Mailbag 35]]</ref> At the same time, he claims that Sonichu is an original creation and has no problems dictating how people are allowed to use it.<ref name="dwasperchu" /> In short, he demonizes other works as "fan fiction" while failing to appreciate that ''Sonichu is fundamentally fan fiction, too'' – he is unable to see that the "fan" creations were created through the ''exact same process'' he himself used. Chris has sheltered himself from this realization by calling Sonichu a [[parody]], but shows no appreciation of other creations which he has labeled as parodies of his own work. One particularly glaring example of this double standard comes in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], where Bugs Bunny scolds [[Jimmy Hill]] for using Chris's characters without permission, never mind the fact that Chris is doing the exact same thing by appropriating Bugs in such a way.

Since ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' allows reusing certain content, Chris also took a number of competently made designs in ''LittleBigPlanet'' and used them in his own levels – [[Download For Play Only|only to tell people not to do the same with his levels]] when the policy was changed and all levels were made downloadable and editable offline.

=== "I WILL Video Record the Whole Thing and Upload it onto RedTube" - Privacy ===
{{quote|Daniel Mimms knows a LOT about me. I have divulged a number of juicy stories with him during our card games. Do not believe his denial of any knowledge or association with me.|Chris, encouraging people to troll his former friend. <ref>[[Daniel_Mimms#Facebook|Facebook posts]]</ref>}}

In the Mailbags, Chris describes [[CWCville]] as a place where homosexuality is forbidden by law. This is enforced by [[Magi-chan]], who uses his psychic abilities to monitor all citizens at all times. Offenders are then ''fined US$500''.

Several days later, Chris used the ''Sonichu'' comic to rail against celebrity news website [[Wikipedia:TMZ.com|TMZ.com]] for invading the privacy of his Electric Hedgehogs, who are apparently as interesting and noteworthy as actual celebrities. TMZ was depicted as a floating, all-seeing movie camera that spied on Rosechu putting in a tampon, Sonichu and Rosechu reenacting a bondage scene from ''[[Family Guy]]'', and [[Robbie Sonee]] describing unusual interactions with a lizard.<ref>[[:File:SchuComic10P36.jpg]]</ref> This could possibly stem from Chris being unfavorably featured on local news with a [[I Got A Fish|video]] of his.

Chris also stated during correspondence with his Wiki SysOp that he would go as far to [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The_Introduction_Image_Space_is_NOT_Ad_Space_(CCS)|distribute a video]] of himself having sex with a woman, recorded using hidden cameras, to prove his heterosexuality. When later pressed on this being a blatant invasion of privacy, Chris covered himself by stating that he would [[Mailbag 31#In_which_Chris_crosses_yet_another_line|blur the participating woman's face]], and upon further questioning changed his proposal to [[Mailbag 34#Chris_would_find_someone_okay_with_being_filmed_to_take_his_"virgin cherry branch"|involve a woman]] actually willing to participate.

Although Chris originally lost his shit when [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]] released a candid photograph of him at [[The GAMe PLACe]] to the Internet, he had no qualms about walking into the same store (a privately owned establishment that he had been permanently banned from) and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|surreptitiously recording an audio conversation]] without the [[Michael Snyder|other party's]] consent. Chris later spread the audio in an attempt to gain sympathy, missing the irony completely. He later [[6 June 2010|tried to take a photograph of that same person]], but was stopped when he noticed Chris outside with a camera. A little over a year later, he would [[28 October 2011|return to this very store]] and take more pictures of the man without his consent, with the incident finally ending in his arrest for hit and run. Even afterward, Chris has not learned at all; he posted on his [[Facebook]] a rapidly taken photo of an angry woman for giving him a "difficult time."

[[File:Facebook post 9 June 2012.png|thumb|right|150px|Quite possibly a troll.]]
While eating at a [[McDonald's]] restaurant, an employee of Burger King spotted Chris, acknowledged him, then went to mess with his cell phone. Chris went into panic mode, assumed that the worker was actually a troll, then thought the man was "communicating with his own kind" by hopping on a forum. He then proceeded to photograph the man, and talk about him behind his back on Facebook, ironically doing what he feared the 'troll' would do to him.

=== "He sets me on fire!" - Slander ===
[[Image:BurnedMySeat.jpg|thumb|left|Chris, March 2008: [[You know what, I HATE ME TOO!!!|"I set my ASS ON FIRE!"]] Chris, January 2010: [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|"He sets me on fire!"]]]]
It is evident to the readers of ''Sonichu'' that Chris uses the comic to settle his conflicts in real life. Every time he felt wronged by someone, he incorporated them into the comic and had his main hero (an idealized vision of himself) beat them up.

The main victim of this treatment was [[Mary Lee Walsh]], the Dean of Student Affairs at the [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]. Because she "Dared" interrupt Chris in his [[Love Quest]] on the grounds of the college, Chris launched himself into a ridiculous one-sided feud against her and included her as the main villain in his comic. He gave the same treatment to many people who had [[Stress|frustrated]] him. The list includes a [[Bagget|police officer]] called in to evict him from a [[Target]] store, various store [[Jerkop|security]] [[Jerkhief|guards]] and [[Manajerks|managers]], romantic [[Wes Iseli|rivals]], old [[CADD Chef|teachers]] and even [[Joseph Herring|fellow students]] only because they were popular with the girls.

This wouldn't be a problem if it was contained in the comic itself or was used for comedic effect. Anyone free to make an educated guess would say that Chris uses artistic license to overcompensate for his weaknesses in real life. This, however, disregards many [[death threats]] he issued to individuals on the net. [[Jack Thaddeus]] and [[Clyde Cash]], two well-known antagonists of Chris, were berated (without success) to [[To Clyde and Jack|commit suicide]]. In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], they throw themselves down a 72-story elevator shaft. [[Jason Kendrick Howell]], the creator of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page regarding Chris's antics, not only received [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|cryptic messages]] from Chris, but saw his own character [[Sonichu 8#The Clarksville Address|left for dead in a pool of his own blood]] after being battered by [[Rosechu]]'s [[Pickle|genitalia]]. After a [[Liquid Chris#Showdown|long feud]] with [[Liquid Chris]], he issued [[NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!|death threats]] and tried to steal his [[Kacey|girlfriend]]. When this failed, he made a [[Sonichu Special 4|comic]] of him shooting Liquid in the shins after disarming him. When Kacey asked him why this was depicted in the comic, he answered that it wasn't that bad since he barely shot him in the legs.<ref>[[Kacey and Liquid Call]]</ref>

Chris strongly disapproves of this method of expression when he's on the receiving end of it. When [[Down with Asperchu|he attacked]] Alec Benson Leary for the creation of ''[[Asperchu]]'', Alec had no scruples about putting him in front of the [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/23109 business end of a flamethrower]. Chris retaliated with a [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|long video]] where he called the attack made on him "horrendous" and vowed that the [[Patti Chandler|spirit of his dead dog]] would avenge him. He would later cap off [[Sonichu 10]] with a graphic depiction of Alec's execution, but not before mentioning the fiery incident one more time.

While Chris rallies against people making accusations of him on the internet (even those of which are true), Chris has no problem accusing others of the most horrible things imaginable. In the [[Calling Out#Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|Calling Out]] series, Chris blatantly accuses [[Michael Snyder]] of ''molesting his own daughter''. This is in direct contrast with Chris's [[Sonichu 10|comic]] where he illustrates clearly how he's ready to travel in the future and hoodwink his "to-be" [[Lovely Weather|wife]] into having sex with him. If we add a song [[IPods Down and Listen Up|he wrote and performed]] describing him in the act of [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|sexually assaulting]] a [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black woman]], it hardly makes Chris a paragon of puritanical virtues.

==="Sonichus in the basement" - [[Alec Benson Leary]]===
Chris is not only hypocritical in the rage he feels when someone makes an [[asperchu|unlicensed parody]] of his unlicensed parody, but he believes that doing so is against the wishes of the characters and [[Chris and reality|hurts their feelings somehow]]. However, him literally [[January_2021_social_media_posts#Bodyswap_announcement|taking over the body of Sonichu and dressing it in drag]] to the explicit discomfort of Sonichu is okay. Obviously, the entire thing is made up but it's real to Chris and therefore still counts.

==="Well-Informed to Expert in sex" - Women===
Chris's hypocrisy was also evident within the astronomically-high standards for a "[[sweetheart]]" that he's published at various times in his life, such as on the [[attraction sign]]. Some of the biggest offenders are:

"Must Have a Mid to high salary." When this rule was in place, Chris did not have a job, had no prospects for a job, and lived on [[monthly tugboat|welfare checks]], yet any woman he dated must be gainfully employed, presumably so Chris could [[Chris and money|squander]] her money on [[List of Chris's games|video games]] and [[sex toys]].

"Must be average to slender body size." Chris was an [[obesity|obese]], lazy slob, yet demanded that any potential sweetheart that he deigns to give his attention to be thin and cute.

"Must not have [[autism]]." Despite the fact that Chris had made being autistic a huge point of pride, he absolutely refused to consider any girl with the same condition.

==="I would have them ESS-acuted!" — Capital Punishment===

Chris has made it known in his mailbag that he is [[Common Questions#30 January 2010|opposed to the death penalty]]. However, in [[9 February 2010|02092010.MOV]], after the CWCipedia was taken offline, he ranted that he wanted to see Alec, Evan, and Mao [[Death threats|executed]]. The implication of this is that serial murderers deserve clemency but people who try to stop Chrissy from [[Simonla|stealing intellectual property]] deserve capital punishment.

Chris later carried out these executions within the pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], hypocritically, '''as he listed off all the ways in which he had wronged them.'''

Capital punishment became the subject of two videos over the next year. The first video was [[05142010]], in which Chris showed us that he thinks twenty years of menial labor is a suitable punishment for murdering a woman in real life. This is, of course, two and a half months after he revealed that he thought genital mutilation via a large drill was an appropriate response to forcing him to stop using a comic character that he had stolen in the first place. The second video was [[DivineTrial]], in which Chris acted out a pretend trial for [[Clyde Cash]], using a [[Shadow the Hedgehog]] doll to stand in for Clyde. The trial was eerily similar to the trial of the Asperpedia Four in the comic, and ends with Clyde's execution via gunshot for the crime of cyberbullying, although this time Chris also includes that his [[PandaHalo|wife]] and child would be [[women's rights|given to]] another man, as appointed by the government.

==="I would never do blood and gore. That's just gross" - Mature content===
[[File:Evan'sDeath.JPG|thumb|Pictured: Blood and gore.]]

Chris has severe problems understanding media with mature themes, or, to be specific, media with [[Chris and death|death]]. It appears that Chris rails heavily against video games that are rated Mature or higher, and realistic depictions of death in fiction "sadden" him.<ref name="Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8"/> Furthermore, Chris has said a number of times in videos and mailbags that his comics will never feature excessive violence and gore. For a long time, Chris took great pains to avoid showing outright death in his comics. [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] was claimed to be kept alive by "dark forces", and [[Liquid Chris]] was [[Sonichu Special 4|shot in the legs]], as a sort of attempt at a nonlethal shooting. The deaths of [[PandaHalo]] and [[Ivy]], while horrific, were both not actually shown, so it was almost as though Chris was keeping his word.

Blatant outright hypocrisy on this matter finally surfaced in the last few pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. He broke this promise in a spectacularly graphic manner, with the (court sanctioned) deaths of the [[Asperpedia]] staff. Alec and Sean were killed by the electric chair and firing squad, respectively. The deaths of Evan and Mao were particularly severe offenders. Evan was shackled to a wall and mutilated with drills for an indeterminate amount of time before being apparently blasted to death by Wild and Sandy. This included cutting off both of his legs, one of his arms, a series of deep cuts to his torso, and ''genital mutilation via a giant drill''. Mao had his arms and legs telekinetically forced to bend in the wrong direction, causing the snapped bones to rip through his skin. As he lay on the ground, Chris telekinetically burst his heart.

Chris also has difficulties understanding other mature themes, such as sex and profanity. Chris claims that [[Mailbag_20#Chris_considers_his_audience|his comic is equivalent to a TV-Y7 program]], which according to broadcast standards would mean no sexual content or innuendo whatsoever, even if censored. However, ''Sonichu'' is loaded with sex, pornography, and innuendo, but Chris says it's okay because [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|he puts stickers over genitalia]]. When asked about all of the sex and violence via mailbag, Chris blamed the FCC.<ref>[[Mailbag_51#The_recent_explosion_of_pornography_in_TV-Y7_cartoons_is_not_Chris.27s_fault|Mailbag 51]]</ref> Chris has stated that [[Mailbag 47#Children will be seeing furry porn in real life|showing kids pornography]] is just a way to educate them on things they're going to eventually see. When it comes to profanity, another thing people learn as they become adults, Chris censors swear words (including vaguely offensive words that most kids are allowed to say, such as "damn" and "crap") and scolds others for using them. ''Sonichu'' #10 reveals that profanity may be a capital crime.

==="I am removing myself from the Internet" - Leaving the Internet forever ===
{{quote|I REALLY DO NOT LIKE HOOKING UP ONLINE; IN-PERSON OR BUST FOR ME.|Chris<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2010]]</ref>}}

On the afternoon of 21 March 2010, Chris announced he was [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|leaving the Internet]] for good with a [[Chris and ego|pompous and bombastic]] speech about how the Internet was trivial and unimportant and everyone should go outside and socialize, and stated that the social networking capabilities of the Internet were a [[Pokémon|stupid fad]] which was long since over. Chris acknowledged that putting his [[Dox|personal information]] on the Internet was a bad idea ([[Little_Big_Planet#The_Guardian_of_the_Owl_Kingdom|one]] of [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|many]]), and promised he would no longer upload ''Sonichu'' comics or interact with trolls, online or by phone. He resolved to get the ''Sonichu'' comics published and interact with real people in his [[Charlottesville|community]].

On the evening of 22 March — about a day and a half later — he uploaded a short video where he claimed that he was still depressed, and then went on to state his disapproval with a new voice actor on [[Family Guy]] spin-off ''[[The Cleveland Show]]'' and demanded that the old voice actor resume the role. Chris might be excused for breaking his promise to make a video announcing a major life change, like a [[Bob Chandler|death in the family]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|returning to school]], [[Wendy's|finding gainful employment]], or even giving an [[Chris and remorse|actual apology]] to a [[Megan Schroeder|former friend]] he offended with [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|his behavior]]. Instead, Chris chose to make a video simply for the sake of making a video complaining about something inconsequential that didn't affect his life in any way.

As well, Chris keeps posting more and more videos afterward. When he does, he makes the same claim - that he is "distancing himself from the Internet". However, distancing himself from the Internet is certainly not the same as leaving the Internet. He's still on there, even when he's playing on the PSN.

Although he did stop posting videos for a while after [[Bob]]'s death, he remained active online, most visibly posting to [[Facebook]]. That all changed, however, when Chris uploaded [[I Love You, Catherine|a surprise video]] in [[October 2014]].

==="Now she's with a real man" - Romantic rivalry===
{{quote|...you know my address, right? You got MapQuest to come all the way over? |Chris, trying to entice a woman to cheat on her boyfriend.<ref>[[Kacey Call 1]]</ref>}}

One thing consistent in his [[Love Quest|efforts to get laid]] is his lamenting of women who are already in stable relationships. He, by default, hates all other [[JERKS|men]] simply because women have the option of being with any one of them over him. When he believes he's found a [[sweetheart]], he's [[Megan Emails, Aug-Dec 2007#Chris wants to know why she sat on Christopher's lap|insecure]] and [[Media:291-ACWesBck.jpg|jealous]] that [[Man in the Pickle Suit|someone]] will try to take her away.

And yet at the same time, he has no problem in attempting to sabotage [[Kacey|other people's relationships]] and [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|taunting]] [[New Address|former boyfriends.]]

==="I really feel offended when they get soo flamboyant with their ways..." - Flamboyancy===
[[Image:TG20.jpg|thumb|Hear that, homos? Chris is offended by your flamboyance!]]

When Chris's activities on the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum were revealed, it was no surprise that he had gone on one of his usual tirades against homosexuals, saying that it's like homos are shoving their flamboyancy in your face. Consider for one minute that, on that same forum, Chris had openly admitted that he has [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Girly Things Tee Hee|recently been using the women's washroom]], and even on one occasion had someone complain about him and was likewise shouted at. So not only is Chris cavorting about in women's clothing in public on a regular basis, he has now taken to using the improper washroom, much to the chagrin of those around him. Call Chris's new found behavior what you will: closet homosexuality, a desperate plea for attention, symbolically castrating himself to subconsciously evoke his frivolity, or getting in touch with his 'feminine side' (as he calls it). Whatever it is, he sure as hell is shoving it in people's faces.

What is surprising, though, is how quickly two-faced Chris can get. When trying to [[Calling Out|expose]] [[Jack Thaddeus]], he revealed that not only was he transsexual, but also having gone through a sex change and was using it to go after guys. While Chris was supportive of being a "fellow Tomgirl", he wasn't supportive of the fact that he was going after guys. Consider the fact that, at one time, Chris stated that he would rather have a sex change than be gay. Thus, to Chris, having a sex change is still fine and dandy only if you're going after [[china]].

==="If you are not careful, you really are going to go to jail." - Law===

Chris often attempts to get trolls in trouble with the law, claiming they should be given prison sentences for (sometimes completely legal) acts that [[Chris and the law#Timeline|he himself has also committed.]]

After watching YouTube videos posted by [[Liquid Chris]], Chris threw a [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|childish fit]] in which he threatened to call authorities because Liquid was impersonating him. He, however, had no qualms claiming to be Liquid to try to trick [[Kacey]] into [[China|coming over to visit him.]]

When he found out that [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] was dating a girl named [[Kathleen]], Chris accused Howell of statutory rape, as at the time Howell was 20 and Kathleen was 17, either ignoring or oblivious to the fact that several state technicalities might make their relationship entirely legal. Chris later depicts himself, then aged 28, winning the affection of 17-year-old [[Meg Griffin]] in [[Sonichu 10]], which he makes no effort to reject.

Chris and his parents have threatened numerous trolls with harassment charges, completely disregarding the fact that harassment is [[Love Quest|what Chris does best]]. Not to mention that, whatever the trolls have done, Chris's [[Death threats|public reactions]] are far more disturbing, violent, and can legally be interpreted as threats to their subjects' safety. Because of his flagrant disregard for [[Mary Lee Walsh#Possible reconciliation|trespassing notices]] and the definition of what the word "banned" means, [[28 October 2011|he was to appear in front of a judge]].

In the third of the [[Calling Out]] videos, Chris has the gall to vaguely tell Surfshack Tito and Thorg that "the police will catch up with [them]" right after expressing the purpose of the series: To blackmail the two of them into sending him cash. In the next video, Chris admitted that these demands are extortion and retracts them, but in the video immediately afterwards, seemed to once again expect the money.

Chris has also expressed hatred of police (even going so far as to coin [[Jerkop|his own disparaging term for them]]) because they dared to take action against his loitering and other things, but that didn't stop him from [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|threatening his trolls that detectives and police would be sicced upon them if they didn't remove their copies of his house tour]]. [[2024|Nearly 15 years later]], Chris similarly [[May 2024 social media posts#Stalker gets caught on security camera|warned of intent to report stalkers if he caught any on the security camera of his newer house]]. Keep in mind that this comes after Chris had spent a year released from jail for [[Affair With Mother|arguably the worst crime he has ever committed]].

==="We do not like to stand under one leader." - Authoritarianism===

In the [[Re-Calling Ahuvia]] video, Chris continues to drop info on fellow lolcow and autistic manchild Ahuviya Harel, the man/woman he believed was Jack Thaddeus, mocking him/her for his/her communist views. While Ahuviya is infamous for his/her admiration of the Soviet Union and for understanding very little of the principles of his/her ideology other than as a framing device for his/her violent fantasies, Chris likewise, as a man(child) who [[Chris and religion|does not understand many of the finer points of his own religion]] other than the bits condemning homosexuality and believes that the Federal Government [[A Public Announcement for Congress|just magically pulls welfare money out of its ass]] probably has no idea of what Communism is, other than that it was the ideology of [[China|some people]] who did some not very nice things in its name and that some countries that followed it were on the United States' shitlist at one time or another. This was further evidenced by Chris breaking out the [[Donald Duck impersonation]] and singing "[[Wikipedia:Der Fuehrer's Face|Der Fuehrer's Face]]", despite the fact that Adolf Hitler was not a communist and in fact [[Wikipedia:First they came...|Communists, Trade Unionists, and other leftists were some of the first victims of the Holocaust]].

Perhaps the most ironic part of Chris's sudden condemnation of authoritarianism is, of course, [[CWCville]]. While CWCville was at first mostly just Chris's imaginary hugbox, with places like the [[CWCville Shopping Center]] (held in high regard by Chris, as his mayoral office is located there) showcasing Chris's [[naive]], mindless materialistic and consumerist tendencies. However, as Chris's conflicts with the [[trolls]] escalated, some unpleasant things began to occur. Suddenly, numerous state-funded Soup Hotels for the homeless began to crop up after the city-state's economy apparently collapsed and left thousands upon thousands jobless on the streets. Later on, in particular, during the events of [[Sonichu 10]], Chris began to show signs of being a ruthless dictator, with CWCville as a dystopian nightmare, such as the trial of the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia 4]], who were given no defense, had little evidence of [[Simonla Rosechu|their crimes]] presented, and yet were found guilty and subject to horrific torture and execution at the hands of Chris and his cronies.

While one could argue that CWCville is simply a harmless, childish fantasy that has been corrupted by Chris's reactions to the trolls, Chris [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)|actually believes that it is real]], and, given [[Death threats|some of his reactions to the trolls]], one would do well not to think [[A Girl Who Brought Down the World|what would happen if he actually had that level of power in real life]].

==="Look at his 'slender' figure" - Obesity===
Chris seems to be [[Facial blindness|completely unaware of his own weight]], possibly a result of the self-image he formed over the course of high school. His [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|portrayal of himself in the comics]] is often incredibly flattering in terms of appearance. It once got to the point that the irony of [[Sammy|him writing a "fat" version of himself into the comics]] was completely lost on him. He regularly describes himself as "average" at worst.

And yet, he regularly derides others for their weight, most notably in the [[Calling Out]] series, where, he repeatedly called [[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|Alec]] and [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don|Surfshack Tito]] "fat". He even had the balls to say [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|"[Christopher Paul Whitney]'s fat! Iiiiii'm thin!"]] during the outing of Alec Benson Leary. It's possible he might even have contempt for fat people – during his [[List of Chris's edits to the CWCki#Christianchandler|November 4 edits to the CWCki]] he changed the description of [[Michael Snyder]]'s image to "Michael Snyder, the dirty '''Fat''', child-molesting <s>Jew</s> gentile", adding the emphasis himself. While it might be that he simply does not realize how much his appearance had changed since he was a teen, his constant insulting of other people's weight is a blatant case of self-contradiction.

==="Sonic's arms are NOT blue!!!" - Blue Arms===
[[File:001-Christophers1stSonic.jpg|thumb|200px|"I simply remind everyone that Sonic The Hedgehog's Arms Are Not Freaking Blue!!!"]]

In 2014, Chris began [[Sonic Boom Protests|protesting]] ''Sonic Boom'' due to the relatively minor change of making the famed hedgehog's arms blue instead of their usual fleshy color. Chris's hatred for this insignificant change is so passionate that he [[26 December 2014|actually got himself arrested for assaulting a GameStop employee]] after said employee tried to stop him from vandalizing ''Sonic Boom'' merchandise. However, Chris is guilty of exactly the same thing, because in his first drawing of Sonic the Hedgehog, he is depicted with blue arms. Furthermore, [[Nintendo employee reveals details of Chris's Nintendo transactions|documents]] were leaked on 12 [[January 2015]], revealing that Chris actually has both ''Sonic Boom'' games. Naturally, he felt the need to post a long tirade on his Facebook, denying he bought either game and that the copies he received were gifts from his [[Catherine|then-girlfriend]]'s cousin and an anonymous troll (though the post stated he registered a physical Wii U disc and a digital 3DS copy, and Chris claimed he only registered a physical 3DS copy).

==="Worrying Mongoose Knows How You Feel!" - Memes===
On 18 [[December 2014]], Chris posted a long tirade on why he hates trolls, as well as a section dedicated to his sheer anger after playing the infamous Nintendo eShop game ''Meme Run'', and his comparing of famous memes in the game to trolls. However, Chris is guilty of using memes, because [[January 2015|the next month]], he posted an image macro featuring Sunil the Mongoose from the 2012 ''Littlest Pet Shop'' series, detailing his feel of worry.

==="Parodies in jest" - Maturity===
In October 2016, Chris [[October 2016 Facebook posts#Pmurt should take parodies in jest|criticized]] then Presidential Candidate [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]], saying that he should have taken "[[Asperchu|a parody]] [[Liquid Chris|of himself]] [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|in jest]]."

==="He is very spiteful" - Spite===
In July 2016, Chris said that [[Pmurt]] "is very spiteful."<ref>[[July 2016 Facebook posts#Christine's Driver's License and Woman's Card|July 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>

In November, upon Pmurt winning the US election, Chris reacted by making multiple [[Eid, Pmurt, Eid|death threats]] and [[Feelings of the election results|prayers]].

==="Womanizing and raping actions" - Sexual Misconduct===
In November 2016, Chris called President-elect [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]] a womanizer and a rapist, in reference to molestation allegations against him. Chris himself has molested [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Catherine|women]], and, unlike Trump, most of [[Megan_emails,_2008#Megan_is_fed_up|these incidents]] are [[Catherine#The_bowling_outing|well documented]]. Chris doesn't seem to grasp the concept that women aren't into being touched by him. While he bragged to Catherine that he's learned to respect women's personal space after the Megan fiasco, he disproved himself soon after by planting his face into her breasts. However, Chris still thinks Trump's sexual misconduct is enough to justify his [[Death Threats|death prayers]] against the President-elect.

In 2018, Chris unconsensually kissed people on the cheek at a [[TooManyGames|convention]] and then, a month later, went on to tell people to not harass him and respect the rules at another [[BronyCon 2018|convention]].<ref>[[BronyCon 2018#Day 1]]</ref>

And his statements aren't the ''only'' time he has railed against someone for (alleged) perverse intent despite his own dirty laundry. For quite a while, he asserted that [[Bruce Johnson|his elementary school principal]] was molesting him and he denounced [[The GAMe PLACe]] for the fact that its owner was a sex offender (even going so far as to baselessly accuse [[Michael Snyder|his then-nemesis]] of being an incestuous pedophile).

As mentioned, he himself has molested various others (and once [[iPods Down and Listen Up|rapped about himself forcibly siring children with a woman trying to elude his sexual advances]]). As for incest accusations, he would later [[Affair with Mother|initiate sex with his elderly mother]].

===Don't end up "as a full-on Super Stereotypical, Spiteful and Egotistical Male" - Kindness===
In January 2017, Chris typed out an [[January 2017 Facebook Posts#Open letter to Barron Trump|open letter to Barron Trump]], in which he urges Barron not to become a "Super Stereotypical, Spiteful and Egotistical [[JERKS|Male]]" like his father, President Trump. This came after two months of Chris [[Pmurt#Death Threats|constantly trying to organize prayers for the elder Trump's death]]. As for [[ego]], Chris spent much of the essay whining about how trolls affected his own life.

==="If people didn’t overspend so much..." - Finances===
In [[May 2019]], Chris commented on an article about excessive spending of public funds by a former EPA chief, criticizing people for overspending. This was only a day after he went to court for [[debt]], a consequence of [[Chris and money#Chris and impulse spending|reckless spending on toys and video games]]. Chris also bemoaned inflation, blaming it on people getting "greedy for the green".

Only three days prior, he sold a dirty old blanket on [[eBay]] for $200,<ref>[[2019 Sales Listings#Rainbow Pride Throw Blanket|2019 Sales Listings]]</ref> which is only a minor episode in Chris's [[Financhu Crisis|long history of e-begging]] to sustain the Chandlers' aforementioned habit of wasting funds on useless garbage, alongside his [[Chris and money|irresponsible spending habits in general]].

==="Break your own Fourth Wall!" - Dimensions===

On [[November 2019]], Chris has made a string of Twitter posts telling people to "break their [[Fourth Wall|fourth wall]]" in order to interact with the OC's living in their home dimensions. The term "[[OC]]" is what Chris uses to refer to any of the characters found within a cartoon. Chris believes that these characters are all sentient beings with their own consciences and feelings. Fast forward to a few days later, Chris becomes enraged when he sees the promo of [[Pony Life]]. Believing it to be a cartoon along the lines of Teen Titans Go solely due to its art style, Chris began starting rallies against the show on his Twitter account, spamming both Hasbro and people who showed any interest in the show with complaints. He even claims that he desires to kill all of the characters within the show itself by having it cancelled.

=== "Can't we just forgive and forget?" - Forgiveness ===
Every so often, Chris will do something that serves to bother or even negatively impact those around him, be it loitering in a [[Get-Tar Region|retail]] [[Mal-Wart|setting]] to seek out a [[Boyfriend-Free Girl]], [[26 December 2014| assaulting employees of stores he was banned from]], [[Affair with Mother|engaging in sex with his elderly mother]] and so forth. Once he realizes he's in trouble and others have reacted negatively to any of his shenanigans, he'll sometimes [[Chris and remorse|try to serve an apology]] to whichever parties were hurt in the situation. Naturally, Chris's feeble and hollow expression of remorse is quickly denied, at which point he is bound to take such a thing personally.

A good example would be Chris's [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|recording of an attempt to persuade]] [[Michael Snyder]] to revoke his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]]. When Chris's insincerity was point-blank rejected and he was urged to leave, Chris got indignant and pleaded for Snyder to "forgive and forget". Ironically, before and after this incident, Chris had been harboring complete animosity towards Snyder and the store itself to the point where [[28 October 2011|he eventually committed a hit-and-run against the then-newer owner himself]].

Even when [[This is how the Trial went|the case had been taken to court]], Chris refused to let go of his unjustified hatred towards Snyder, such that when informed he was to cover medical expenses (as part of a plea bargain to ensure Chris wouldn't suffer from a criminal record, mind you), he openly referred to the very man who had just arranged to make the case easier for him as a 'thieving liar'.

Even outside of that, Chris isn't really in any position whatsoever to chide others for a lack of forgiveness, considering one of many things he is infamous for is [[Chris and anger|a tendency to fly into extreme rage]] against others for perceived slights and/or attacks on him, sometimes going so far as to unleash [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|a "curse"]] or even [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|desire for them to be killed outright]]. Not just that, but he has even held years-long grudges against the aforementioned Michael Snyder, [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[Megan Schroeder]], all for things that were his own fault in the first place.

It should come as no surprise that even in [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]], Chris will screw up a message of forgiveness almost immediately after he says it. In [[Sonichu #8]], Rosechu reminds Sonichu of the importance of forgiveness but near the end of the same volume, a single [[Pickle|pickle]] getting thrown at her induces transformation into [[The Incredible Lioness]], whereupon she brutally face-rapes [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] in retaliation.

==Chris on hypocrisy==
{{quote|A: "hypocrite"; [[Chris and English|an adjective]]; 1) to be of a belief while not upholding that belief. 2) a total liar. 3) [[True and Loyal Fanbase|an UNTRUE Fan]]. example: When the Sonichu Fan left Sonichu for [[Asperchu|a newer, yet badly drawn, thing]], after having said that they would always enjoy Sonichu forever, is a hypocrite among the Truest and Loyalest Sonichu Fans.|Chris, on what it means to be a hypocrite}}

In the [[Common_Questions#Answered_20_January_2010|Mailbag questions]], Chris was asked to define "hypocrite." His answer shows that he barely understands the concept, thinks it's some kind of insult (like "naïve" or "benevolent"), and somehow refers to a fan's level of devotion.

Chris's first definition is very broad, and could be used to describe hypocrisy (one's stated beliefs being in conflict with one's actions), but could also be used to describe a general lack of enthusiasm. Under Chris's definition, a homophobe who doesn't take [[Sonichu 10|drastic measures]] to eradicate homosexuality would be a hypocrite.

His second definition is just hyperbole, in the same way someone would throw around "fascist" when not using it to describe an [[CWCville|extreme right-wing authoritarian nationalist]].

Chris's third definition is more of a (failed) example to ''describe'' a hypocrite, and more describes Chris's "if you're not now, you never were" attitude towards fandom. In Chris's mind, he must enjoy all ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' games regardless of quality, and wear and display ''[[Pokémon]]'' merchandise well past an age where that would be considered socially acceptable. Because Chris enjoyed ''Sonic'' and ''Pokémon'' when he was younger, he's not allowed to move on, grow up, and find other, more adult interests.

Chris then went on to rail against Asperchu, and refused to acknowledge the dozens of mailbag letters pointing out examples of his hypocrisy, double standards, and contradictions.

==Sources==
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==See also==
* [[List of Chris's lies]]
* [[Chris and morality]]
* [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9]]

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Morality is a means by which to distinguish right from wrong. While some things are generally agreed to be positive or negative, it can often vary by entire cultures, religions or individual people. Chris is no exception to the latter rule and his take on morality is rather noteworthy, to say the least.

Because he is very simple-minded and egocentric, Chris has a tendency to react negatively to a perceived wrongdoing and believes everything he does in response constitutes doing the right thing, without regard for potential consequences or even if others try to inform him that his actions are demonstrably immoral behavior. Suffice it to say, his moral compass is one of various reasons why Chris propelled himself to infamy.

==Understanding of morality==

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. While he is known to engage in bizarre and morally questionable actions from time to time, he does (at a bare minimum) acknowledge that ideas of right and wrong (as well as punishment) ''exist'', even if he doesn't get the benefit from them that he often expects. It's conceivable that a mix of his condition, coddling from parents and educators and media exposure led to Chris developing a skewed sense of morality that serves primarily himself more than others.

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

As such, Chris appears to see the world as though it was a cartoon show with himself as the protagonist and others as villains, operating on very simplistic black-and-white morality in doing so. It is very possible that, as a result of his [[autism]] (and generally poor upbringing), he takes the morality he sees in fiction literally and that he genuinely cannot wrap his head around "grey areas" because they would be too complex for his childlike brain to process. It's also likely that, given Chris has openly admitted to thinking fictional characters are real and live in a separate realm (a la ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}''), he views cartoons as inherently realistic and educational rather than often exaggerated media made to entertain audiences and/or sell merchandise. Despite this, Chris has consistently failed to take any life lessons and morals from children's media to heart, and it particularly manifests in the form of [[Chris and hypocrisy|neglecting to practice what he preaches]].

==Virtues he fails (or failed) at==

===Empathy===

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

A perfectly good example of his failure at empathy comes from his edit war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Because Chris took umbrage at the website's unflattering descriptions of himself and it containing Rule 34 art he despised, he drew and uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|a scandalous pornographic image]] of his self-insert with then gal pal [[Megan Schroeder]] (who he repeatedly tried to turn into a sweetheart against her wishes), all in a foolish bid to counteract the site's negativity and get them to leave him alone. She eventually discovered the drawing and was understandably revolted by it, promptly chastising Chris for "degrading" and "demeaning" her<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG]]</ref>, to which Chris initially assumed her reaction was from lack of exposure to sexual imagery (rather than the fact that she was nonconsensually depicted in an X-rated scenario). To make matters worse, he admitted that releasing his feelings in the form of a drawing prevented him from becoming "an abusive maniac" and outright told Megan that [[Chris and his ego|he was suffering more than she did]] simply because ED mocked him relentlessly<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>. After a while, this ultimately led to Megan cutting ties with Chris permanently.

===Honesty===

Possibly influenced by The American Rabbit, Chris has been known to self-profess that he is [[True and Honest]]. How Chris goes about honesty is nowhere near the positive virtue he apparently sees it as.

For one thing, Chris has been known to be too honest for his own good, particularly lacking a social filter whilst divulging information to trolls. Among various things, Chris revealed that he [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|has incontinence issues]], [[April 16 Fetish Vids#Fanta: Semen Flavor|drank soda mixed with]] [[Semen|Navy]], wore a [[muscle bra]], [[Tour of Chris's House|lived in a poorly-maintained house]] and so forth. On top of that, Chris continued to be "true and honest" despite that this habit always worked to his detriment, with [[trolls]] using this newfound information as ammo to humiliate him further.

Inversely, Chris is also not above lying, omitting details and/or framing events to use his victim complex for personal gain. In fact, [[List of Chris's lies|an entire list of his numerous lies has been documented]] for anyone who might be curious. For a specific example, Chris maintaned a story that he was banned from a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] English class because [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked out of English|he told the professor that he was autistic]]. During a chat with [[Jackie]], he admitted to making offensive statements during a class discussion regarding one student finding a [[Homos|homosexuality]] allegory in the story ''{{w|Wednesday's Child}}''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref>. Even with this confession, he still insisted the professor was somehow prejudiced against autistics.

===Humility===

===Kindness===

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable.

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

===Obedience===

===Remorse===

===Respect===

===Self-control===

==Morality in Sonichu==

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Chris and hypocrisy]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and morality

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The GAMe PLACe

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FurryChristorian789: /* Chris Gets the Boot */

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from [[August 2011]] until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995. It is located about 12 miles away from [[14 Branchland Court]].

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant [[Chris and race|racism]] with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and the former owner's son Tito were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/> Shortly afterward, Michael Snyder said he would call the [[Jerkops|cops]] if Chris ever brought his parents in again.

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room without permission to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police.

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

In an email account of the incident, Chris justified his attempted intrusion by noticing the store was under new management and assumed this would allow him an opportunity to get his ban repealed, only to find out that Michael was still working there, thus conflict ensued.<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email]]</ref>

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he played. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also wished for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

{{Notes}}
{{References}}

==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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The GAMe PLACe

2026-04-21T21:10:10Z

FurryChristorian789: /* The GAMe PLACe Photograph */

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from [[August 2011]] until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995. It is located about 12 miles away from [[14 Branchland Court]].

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant [[Chris and race|racism]] with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and the former owner's son Tito were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/> Shortly afterward, Michael Snyder said he would call the [[Jerkops|cops]] if Chris ever brought his parents in again.

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police.

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

In an email account of the incident, Chris justified his attempted intrusion by noticing the store was under new management and assumed this would allow him an opportunity to get his ban repealed, only to find out that Michael was still working there, thus conflict ensued.<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email]]</ref>

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he played. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also wished for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

{{Notes}}
{{References}}

==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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ShecameforCWC.JPG

2026-04-17T21:51:47Z

FurryChristorian789: Fixing a grammatical mistake

{{Honest}}
{{quote|And by the way, that is not [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]] whose eyes are censored; that is [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]]!|[[Chris]]'s [[CWC's Second Message|second message]]}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|right|"Your sister has cum for me."]]

'''ShecameforCWC.JPG''' is a [[Rule 34]] picture that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] drew as part of a campaign to fight [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] by "replacing negativity with positivity."<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica]]</ref> It portrays Chris using his hand to stimulate a naked [[Megan Schroeder]]'s vagina to the point of orgasm (indicated by [[Masturbating and squirtin'|squirt lines]]) while he gives a thumbs-up. Arguably the most scandalous of all of [[Chris and art|Chris's artistic canon]], this single image managed to invoke much drama. It was the straw that permanently destroyed the already dying friendship between Chris and Megan, and the consequences of uploading it online have continued to face him for years afterward. In fact, it's entirely conceivable that the targeted effort to troll Chris may have simply faded away had he ''not'' edited the page repeatedly and uploaded this image to Encyclopedia Dramatica, thereby putting blood in the water for [[trolls]] for years to come.

At first, people believed the picture to be of his imaginary twin sister Crystal, which was not helped by the initial caption that Chris provided. In order to defend his fictional sister's honor, Chris edited the article to confirm that it was in fact Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on the 18th March 2008.]]</ref> He also angrily decried these scurrilous rumors in the [[Madman Rising]] video, shouting that it was Megan, defeating the purpose of censoring her eyes to hide her identity. While this is less disturbing than Chris wanting to have an incestuous relationship with his own fictitious twin sister, it is notably creepy that it is of his only friend, with whom he had no romantic or sexual relationship (no matter how much he tried, anyway).

Megan was understandably disturbed when she figured out the truth behind the image. As it stands, she had made it perfectly clear to Chris that she had no romantic feelings for him and that she wanted to remain "just friends"; in the aftermath, she was so disgusted that she severed ties with Chris. Since the release of the picture, Chris has flip-flopped from taking responsibility for making the image to blaming the trolls and even blaming Megan herself, or some combination of these things.

==Background==
When Chris first discovered the ED page, he was disturbed by the number of images depicting his female characters (mostly [[Rosechu]]) with [[Pickle|penises]] on the site, along with general [[Homos|gay porn]] of his characters and himself. Chris then decided that the best response would be to replace these images with images of things that Chris likes as a means of "replacing negativity with positivity." He thought that uploading pictures of his fictional characters fucking and a drawing of himself fingering his not-girlfriend would counteract the perceived homosexuality prevalent on the ED page.<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex]]</ref>

He also ignorantly believed that spamming large edits on the page (what he referred to as an "information overload") would overwhelm the trolls and scare them into deleting it. On 11 November [[2007]], along with [[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#11 November|adding large walls of text detailing his own personal life]], Chris uploaded several new, original images to ED, including ShecameforCWC.JPG. Some of these pictures were duplicated on the page to further the "overload" plot. These were pornographic drawings of several romantic pairings from the comics, made for this exact purpose. The sole exception, of course, was with ShecameforCWC.JPG, which depicted real people. Chris wrote a relationship between himself and Megan in the comics as wish fulfillment, so we can assume Chris was imagining this from the very beginning. This is made even more likely when Chris admitted to Megan sometime after she discovered the picture that he probably would have sexually advanced on her had he not done the drawing.<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref> This supposed need to suppress his sexual advances ironically hinted at [[Chris and sex#Incest|what was to come]] more than a decade later. All of the images that Chris posted were varying degrees of horrifying, but ShecameforCWC.JPG proved to be the most appalling, leaving [[trolls]] in total shock.

Ironically, these behaviors, compounded with Chris's apparent obliviousness as to why this picture hurt his friend, [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|among]] [[The GAMe PLACe|other]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|things]], only showcased his child-like view of the world, and just how easy he was to manipulate. Thus, it isn't hard to see why he became such an easy target to trolls in the following years to come – since it only took some perverted "fan" art to upset Chris, others got to thinking about what else could be done to push his buttons.

==Analysis==
[[File:ShecameforCWCanatomy.JPG|thumb|Anatomical analysis]]

This image is held in such regard for being a shining example of Chris's art style. The drawing showcases many major problems with Chris's artistic abilities:

*Chris clearly attempted to foreshorten Megan in this image, given how he draws her legs significantly longer and her head smaller than the rest of her body, but the lack of depth perception and proportion makes her look as flat as the paper she was drawn on.
*He also shows a complete [[Biology|unfamiliarity with human anatomy]]. Megan's legs seem to start right at the groin while her hips are directly behind them. Also, it looks like neither Chris nor Megan have elbows, joints, or even bones for that matter. What is supposed to be her foot looks like a deformed flipper. Many other glaring anatomical flaws in this picture deserve analyses of their own:
**The vagina is not one long hole and you could never do that sort of thing with a real vagina, looking like that. There is also the fact that Chris didn't draw her a crotch, and instead placed her vagina directly on her perineum.
**The vagina in question appears to be either glowing or shooting out a powerful gust of wind. Chris probably meant to convey that Megan was "wet" and/or "[[Masturbating and squirtin'|squirtin']]," but due to his own stupidity, he drew her "[[Wikipedia:Female ejaculate|cum]]" around and outside the vagina instead of coming from inside it, leading to the "Glowing Ethereal Cunt of the Ages" effect shown in the picture. He also made the vaginal fluid blue, likely to shade it in. This not only further shows his ignorance, but it also shows his inability to stay consistent with his artstyle, as he did not attempt to shade in anything else in the picture.
**Megan's body lacks any curves whatsoever. As a result of this, [[pedofork|Megan looks significantly younger]].
**Chris is somehow reaching over his left shoulder with his right hand despite the fact that his right elbow remains near his side, creating an effect straight out of [[Wikipedia:M. C. Escher|M. C. Escher]]'s darkest nightmares. Due to the perspective of Chris's forearm, his forearm is either very floppy and bent backward towards Megan, or Chris's hand is actually nowhere near his partner's parts.
**Chris's right forearm is severely elongated in comparison to his left - If this version of Chris were to be viewed from the front, his right arm would probably hang low or even drag along the ground. His left thumb is also unrealistically large compared to the rest of his hand.
**Both of Megan's hands also appear to each have six fingers, two of which are haphazardly redrawn to look like nipples. As a result of this, Megan's right arm now looks like it's in a permanent [[Wikipedia:Vulcan salute|Vulcan salute]] from [[Star Trek]].
**As a result of Chris' haphazard attempt to turn her fingers to nipples, Megan's nipples appear unnaturally pointy. Not to mention how they seem to point directly towards her face, and how her areolae are placed higher up on her breasts than they should be.
**Megan's pubic hair, which was probably supposed to be a [[Wikipedia:Landing strip (pubic hair)|landing strip]], in this drawing bears a slight resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Adolf Hitler|Hitler]]'s mustache (coincidentally, Megan had a fetish for German soldiers). It is also quite far up on her body, and looks like some kind of messed-up [[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair|happy trail]] instead of pubic hair.
**Chris's head is deformed and oval-shaped, and his eyes appear to be set very far up his skull, being where most people's hairlines or eyebrows should be. This can be ascertained with the fact that Chris appears to have drawn himself hastily - Even in some of Chris's earlier artworks, he depicted himself with something resembling an actual jawline, but not here.
*The way Chris drew Megan's hands is a prime example of how Chris habitually does all of his drawings in one fell swoop without any planning or revisions. Megan's nipples looks at first to be extra fingers, suggesting that Chris messed up (more than usual) while drawing the hands and decided to turn them into nipples. Chris also appeared to tacked on her thumbs directly afterward.
*Chris pays close attention to the parts that interest him, namely genitalia and breasts, yet had to squeeze in a tiny head, most likely because he started with the former and realized "Oh, she needs a face." He also shows clear attention to his [[Medallion of Fail]], his [[heterochromia]], etc.
*Note the retarded pun, a reinforcement of Chris's narcissism, that when a woman orgasms, it's for his sake and not her own pleasure (as he titled it "''She''came''for''CWC," emphasis added). The smug look he has on his face as he gives a thumbs up while fingering her seals the deal. He's also wearing his [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] medallion while fingering a woman. He stated that ideally, he'd like to be wearing his medallion for his first time.<ref>[[Chris Sex Logs#My first time|Chris Sex Logs]]</ref>
*There is the fact that the girl in the drawing is his best and only friend, Megan, and he sees nothing wrong with it other than the fact that it's on the Internet where she (and millions of others) can see it.

==Drama==
[[File:MeganBrotherTroll.jpg|thumb|left|Megan reminisces about learning of the picture and explains Chris's mysterious caption.]]
===With ED===

When Chris first uploaded the image to ED, he captioned it "Your sister has cum for me." Exactly what he meant here was long disputed, but it had the unintended effect of leading ED's users to widely conclude that the picture represented ''Chris's'' sister, the fictional character Crystal (given the nature of [[Chris and art|Chris’s artwork]], any two females with long brown hair are easily mistaken for each other). "Your sister" suggests that the message is addressed to Megan's brother [[John Schroeder]], but why Chris would want to incorporate Megan's brother into his sexual fantasies is anyone's guess. Megan would one day shed light on this by explaining that Chris's caption was, indeed, directed at her brother because he believed at the time that John was the mastermind behind the trolling campaign on ED.

Over the next few months, the image was removed and replaced a few times over the course of Chris's simmering edit war against ED. It didn’t become a serious hot potato until [[March 2008]], however, when Megan discovered the picture and learned that it was meant to be a picture of her. (Chris, not realizing that it would probably be better to cut his losses and let the trolls believe that he wanted to screw his imaginary sister, spilled the beans himself, [[List of Chris's lies|but not before first attempting to lie to her about how it was a picture of Crystal]].) In between bombarding Megan with apologies via e-mail, he went on a desperate campaign to remove the image from his ED page, which naturally was an unsuccessful effort.

Chris spent most of a week trying to remove the image, trying to delete references to Megan from the article, trying to erase random bits of the article in order to camouflage his real intentions, and otherwise failing to realize that once something goes up on a wiki, you can’t make it come back down. Amazingly, he even tried to replace the image with a [[:File:TomTomCloseup.jpg|cropped version]] which just involved the vagina, as though Megan were only angry about her and Chris's facial features being depicted and would be satisfied if the image just showed his hand disappearing up her radiant quim. ED admins quickly reverted his edits and eventually protected the page once it was obvious that Chris was up to something.

On 18 March, Chris admitted defeat in his own disturbing way, and edited the image’s caption — as well as several other captions around the article — to make it clear that the woman depicted is Megan, not Crystal, to at least protect his own honor by indicating that he was not into [[Chris and sex#Incest|committing incest]] ([[Affair with Mother|at least not yet]]), even if, in the process, he was demonstrably perfectly okay with drawing pornography of a friend who did not reciprocate any romantic feelings that he had. Over the next few days, he made a number of other [[You know what, I HATE ME TOO!!!|self-deprecating and self-pitying changes and additions to the page with a series of images and captions]], in an attempt to further barter with the trolls, before giving up on editing ED for six months.

===With Megan===
[[File:MeganGoodEnding.jpeg|thumb|Chris providing Megan with a real gift.]]
By 12 March 2008, Megan had discovered the full extent of what Chris had written and drawn about her around the Internet, particularly the fact that she'd starred in his cartoon fantasy porn. While failing to get the image off the ED page over the next several days, Chris sent her a series of messages trying to put out the fire.

Some of his attempts to "explain" the image to Megan are downright bizarre. It's hard to do justice to the [[Megan_Emails, 2008#Chris_apologizes_for_something.2C_what_could_it_be.3F|original e-mails]]. At one point, he seemed to think Megan was offended because she didn't understand the action on display, and went off on a frighteningly awkward explanation of what a handjob is. In another e-mail, Chris confirmed the suspicion of many trolls — that he had entertained thoughts of sexually assaulting Megan.

{{quote|If I didn't have the foresight to put my pent-up frustrations and feelings in the form of something, I might have become an abusive maniac...|Chris, [[Megan Emails, 2008#Chris_continues_bothering_her_about_ED|e-mail to Megan, 18 March 2008]]}}

Generally, Chris's "apologies" are a classic display of his insensitivity and [[Chris and his ego|narcissism]] in action. He shows little [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for creating and publishing the image while offering plenty of woe-is-me whining about the ED bullies. In a message from 18 March, he actually had the gall to tell Megan that no matter how bad she might be feeling, he himself has definitely got it worse.

After sending several messages and receiving little in the way of a response from Megan, Chris appeared to have given up on winning back her trust, which coincided with the slackening of his campaign to remove the image from ED and the increasingly self-hating tone of his edits there. On 23 March, Megan finally sent him two brief replies to the effect of "leave me alone." Those mark the end of the active drama over the image. Chris stopped editing ED around the same time.

As a coda to the fiasco, Chris tried once more to repair his relationship with Megan about a month later, sending a message with a mix of everyday news and creepy stalkerish longing. Given some time to consider the implications of his earlier messages, especially the parts where he brought up the prospect of raping her, Megan slammed the door shut, saying "I'm afraid I can't trust you anymore." This remains their last known communication.

It is debatable how dramatic was the effect of ShecameforCWC on Chris's relationship with Megan. While it is beyond dispute that Megan severed all contact with Chris due to said image, it might be that she was already trying to avoid his presence prior to discovering he had drawn cartoon porn of her.

[[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]'s account of Chris's time at the [[The GAMe PLACe]] indicates that Megan was avoiding Chris before finding out about ShecameforCWC. According to Mimms "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after the drawings of her got leaked''' [emphasis added]."<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post]]</ref> It's not exactly clear if by "leaked" Mimms refers to the drawing being uploaded online, the drawing being found by Megan or something else. Regardless, in the rest of their discussion of Megan, Mimms and Lucas make no mentions of ShecameforCWC and seem to exclusively attribute Megan's withdrawal from Chris to his unwanted romantic advances.<ref>[[The GAMe PLACe#Chris and Megan]]</ref>

==Epilogue==
{{quote|It was Wishful Thinking.|Chris, describing his motive for drawing ShecameforCWC, [[Rejected Mailbag]]}}

[[File:Christine Weston Chandler’s Lot Of 32 Porn Drawings 01.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The pieces of ShecameforCWC.]]

Chris's [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] turned out, not surprisingly, to be fake as he went and reuploaded the picture for his sleazy [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], citing the fact he needed "sexy images."<ref>[[Mumble 9.5|Mumble Chat 9.5]]</ref> The pain he caused a female friend means nothing compared to his lust for e-fame. The original drawing itself was said to be ripped up and stored in the [[Crumple-Lope]].<ref>[[Mumble 3|Mumble Chat 3]]</ref> Chris's [[Scrapbook of Fail|scrapbook]] with the Crumple-Lope inside surprisingly survived the [[2014 house fire]].

Years later, the consequences of drawing ShecameforCWC are still being felt by Chris. In an e-mail sent to [[Thetan]] around October 2013 by a former high school [[gal-pal]] of Chris's, the gal-pal revealed that she was so sickened and repulsed by the imagery (in particular, Chris's "thumbs up" gesture) that she had no desire to ever speak to Chris again, and noted that she was not the only one of Chris's former high school classmates who felt that way.<ref>[[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Reality Comes Knocking]]</ref>

On 4 November 2013, Chris put out a statement saying he regretted drawing ShecameforCWC.jpg, stating that he destroyed the original drawing and "do[es] not possess any image files of the thing." He also stated he forgave Megan, Snyder, and Walsh.<ref>[[November 2013 Facebook Posts#That Dang Drawing]]</ref>

Prompted by reading a fancomic about him, in which a scene is devoted to Megan's reaction to ShecameforCWC, Chris commented:

{{quote|How Could they have been mutual after that, Period?! And now, despite the Original Piece being Totally Torn apart, it still reappears to haunt me. When will that symbol of my sin of lust be long forgotten? Soon, I pray. I continue to Repent.|Chris, January 2018<ref>[[January 2018 tweets]]</ref>}}

[[File:CWC MAGfest panel audience2.jpg|thumb|right|200px|ShecameforCWC being discussed at the CWC panel at [[MAGfest]].]]

Due to the [[Financhu Crisis]], Chris offered ShecameforCWC and other porn artwork for sale for $1,000 in April 2018 on [[eBay]], where the set quickly sold the next day to the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. Chris just chopped the drawing up into little squares it could easily be reassembled from, rather than truly destroying it. This, combined with Chris wanting to make money off of it, casts yet more doubt over Chris feeling any sort of remorse from drawing it.

{{quote|[My] real reason for drawing that Came piece was out of frustration [I] was subconsciously feeling from Megan continually playing [me] on and on and making [me] spend money for Megan.|Chris, September 2020, blaming Megan for his porn drawing<ref name=meganobsession>[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]</ref>}}

In a [[September 2020]] chat with [[The Place]], Chris claimed that his classic excuse of having drawn ShecameforCWC out of "wishful thinking" was only "partly true", then proclaimed that the real reason was out of anger at Megan for her habit of asking him to buy stuff on her behalf from eBay (usually in exchange for trading items such as manga).<ref name=meganobsession></ref> Chris also highlighted his anger at having traded a Zune music player to Megan, which suggests he believes that Megan's dignity was worth at least the price of a Zune. Chris's blaming of Megan for both his own simp behavior and his decision to draw porn of her again cements his lack of genuine remorse over ShecameforCWC.

==See also==
*[[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]] - Chris graduates from a handjob to an all-out rockstar orgy. His drawing style hasn't improved.

==Sources==
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C.W.C. - Thank You :)

2026-04-16T17:12:35Z

FurryChristorian789:

"'''C.W.C. - Thank You :)'''" is a video in which [[Chris]] stumbles upon a "revelation" concerning why he is trolled and thanks [[ED]] and [[trolls]] for trolling him.

Despite Chris's high talk, the true purpose of the video seems to be that the trolls provide proof that Chris is not the impostor Chris, but is in fact the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler because only the real Christian Weston Chandler is the one who is trolled and is the laughing stock of the Internet.

Note that, although he insists that we're "twisting the truth" to make him look bad, Chris acknowledges that everything on our site is basically accurate. This means he is admitting to being a [[Chris and race|racist]], [[Homos|homophobic]], [[Women's rights|chauvinistic]], [[Chris and his Ego|self-satisfied]] manchild; he just doesn't see why that's a bad thing.

It's also worth mentioning that Chris gives an apology to [[Mary Lee Walsh]] in the video description side-bar (complete with hope for reconciliation), suggesting that the video predates the delivery of his hand-drawn apology and subsequent ban from [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]].

==Video==

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| name = C.W.C. - Thank You :)
| ytid = E9FX4IJ8aFQ
| stardate = 03 [[August 2009]]
| style = {{Reason|text}}
| saga = {{Liquid|text}}
| shirt = {{ClassicShirt|text}}
| previous = [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_3#IBAChandler.27s_Bonus_Video#IBAChandler's Bonus Video|Yearbooks]]
| next = [[CWC_-_Exposing_Jeff#Video|Exposing Jeff]]
}}
{{quote|I thank you trolls. I thank you for documenting the truth.}}

=== Transcript ===

[[Captain's Log]], Stardate: April 3rd, [''removes glasses''] 2009.

I have had the revelation, I now see the truth. [''puts his glasses back on''] I see the truth behind the reason why the trolls troll me. Why they have been, why the're still doing it and all the like. Not just because the're bored, not just because they want information. Not just because they want to get to know me, not becau—not just because they have been emotionally hurt themselves, so many details that could be supposed for all the reasons to be listed. But, [''looks at his red clipboard''] the [[trolls]] are there to document the truth. Granted, they twist them around with their own evil ways. Try to make the individual look bad, but they still document the truth.

And with that [''raises his clipboard''] I would like to say the following assortment of words... that I have felt from my heart.

It is good to have my own trolls. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, honest information from one, and they may later twist the truth for their evil purposes. Just like the ''paparazzi''. And, yet, they still, ''document'' the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the impostors from the real, true, honest, individual.

Just as I am posing in my shir—in my coa—in my coat I have worn on [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|my twenty-fifth birthday FUTURE MESSAGE video]], I wear it now because... I thank you trolls. I thank you for documenting the truth. I thank you for, uh, keepin' it real, and separating me from the false people. I also thank [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. S—granted, slanderous... still... some... truth. And the original truth is documented in there, somewhere. In the ''history'' [''makes a vague hand-waving gesture'']. Granted that as—as much as you will have gotten from me... and, uh, [''exhales''] all that sort of thing. Oh, and also another reason, because your questions may have gone ignored before, I will, in the future, take one question at a time. And if it is a bad question, I will say... "no comment". So theref... yeah, so, therefore... for all that you have been turn—done—for all that you trolls have... done... you in turn have done for me, an excellent service. Now it is with the Wolf Cub—Wolf Cub Scout salute... I salute you. [''Wolf Scout salute''] Have a good day! [''peace sign''] Stay safe.

[''video cuts'']

Also before I forget, the, ah, current [[SingStar Challenge|SingStar contest]], between me and [[Liquid Chris|the impostor in the brown stripes]]... '''I know your naaaaaaame''', Mr. Toys-R-Us giraaaaaafe! His name! Only cut in half. Use the first name. Anyway, the contest shall continue, for the fun of it. Aaaand I hope he will enjoy the song I have in my mind [''points to head''] that God has entrusted me to relay, for ''him'' to sing, that he enjoys it, and sees the meaning. The Lord loves us... [''puts hand over heart''] by our own name... [[Christopher's_name_change|our own true honest name]].

===From the Description sidebar===
{{quotebox|Also, I would like to document that Trolls are there also to make us Grow Up Emotionally. They try to break our spirits, keeping us down. But I still get back up and stand, Standing up for the things I know are right. I Dare to keep my Dreams and Love Alive.

<nowiki>**And, I would like to take this moment to offer my most Humble Apologies, now that I have a fuller understanding of things.</nowiki>

-I am sorry, [[Michael Snyder]], for acting the way I did; it's your Television, and I should have respected you. 
-I am sorry, [[Mary Lee Walsh]], You got the complaints from other people; You had your orders; You shattered my heart. Now, as I will soon draw you out of the comic pages as the villain, I forgive you for your misdeed of Heart-Shattering, and I would like very much to put this behind us after almost 6 years. 
-I am sorry, Megan Schroeder, I should have not been soo touchy-feely. I was feeling elated and excited; I meant no discomfort, and for the discomfort I have caused unto you, I apologize. 
-[[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]], I still do not understand your beef against me, but I apologize for having my mother and father confront you that night, and if you will let me know what I have done wrong unto you to cause you grief, I will be happy to listen and fully comprehend. 

Thank You, Trolls. 
Thank You, Encyclopedia Dramatica. 
Thank You, Loyal Fans. CWCipedia is the NEW Official Sonichu & Rosechu Site; Enjoy. 
Thank You All. :) }}

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C.W.C. - Thank You :)

2026-04-16T17:12:24Z

FurryChristorian789:

"'''C.W.C. - Thank You :)'''" is a video in which [[Chris]] stumbles upon a "revelation" concerning why he is trolled and thanks [[ED]] and [[trolls]] for trolling him.

Despite Chris's high talk, the true purpose of the video seems to be that the trolls provide proof that Chris is not the impostor Chris, but is in fact the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler because only the real Christian Weston Chandler is the one who is trolled and is the laughing stock of the Internet.

Note that, although he insists that we're "twisting the truth" to make him look bad, Chris acknowledges that everything on our site is basically accurate. This means he is admitting to being a [[Chris and race|racist]], [[Homos|homophobic]], [[Women's rights|chauvinistic]], [[Chris and his Ego|self-satisfied]] manchild; he just doesn't see why that's a bad thing.

It's also worth mentioning that Chris gives an apology to [[Mary Lee Walsh]] in the video description side-bar (complete with hope for reconciliation), suggesting that the video predates the delivery of his hand-drawn apology and subsequent ban from [[[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]].

==Video==

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| shirt = {{ClassicShirt|text}}
| previous = [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_3#IBAChandler.27s_Bonus_Video#IBAChandler's Bonus Video|Yearbooks]]
| next = [[CWC_-_Exposing_Jeff#Video|Exposing Jeff]]
}}
{{quote|I thank you trolls. I thank you for documenting the truth.}}

=== Transcript ===

[[Captain's Log]], Stardate: April 3rd, [''removes glasses''] 2009.

I have had the revelation, I now see the truth. [''puts his glasses back on''] I see the truth behind the reason why the trolls troll me. Why they have been, why the're still doing it and all the like. Not just because the're bored, not just because they want information. Not just because they want to get to know me, not becau—not just because they have been emotionally hurt themselves, so many details that could be supposed for all the reasons to be listed. But, [''looks at his red clipboard''] the [[trolls]] are there to document the truth. Granted, they twist them around with their own evil ways. Try to make the individual look bad, but they still document the truth.

And with that [''raises his clipboard''] I would like to say the following assortment of words... that I have felt from my heart.

It is good to have my own trolls. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, honest information from one, and they may later twist the truth for their evil purposes. Just like the ''paparazzi''. And, yet, they still, ''document'' the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the impostors from the real, true, honest, individual.

Just as I am posing in my shir—in my coa—in my coat I have worn on [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|my twenty-fifth birthday FUTURE MESSAGE video]], I wear it now because... I thank you trolls. I thank you for documenting the truth. I thank you for, uh, keepin' it real, and separating me from the false people. I also thank [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. S—granted, slanderous... still... some... truth. And the original truth is documented in there, somewhere. In the ''history'' [''makes a vague hand-waving gesture'']. Granted that as—as much as you will have gotten from me... and, uh, [''exhales''] all that sort of thing. Oh, and also another reason, because your questions may have gone ignored before, I will, in the future, take one question at a time. And if it is a bad question, I will say... "no comment". So theref... yeah, so, therefore... for all that you have been turn—done—for all that you trolls have... done... you in turn have done for me, an excellent service. Now it is with the Wolf Cub—Wolf Cub Scout salute... I salute you. [''Wolf Scout salute''] Have a good day! [''peace sign''] Stay safe.

[''video cuts'']

Also before I forget, the, ah, current [[SingStar Challenge|SingStar contest]], between me and [[Liquid Chris|the impostor in the brown stripes]]... '''I know your naaaaaaame''', Mr. Toys-R-Us giraaaaaafe! His name! Only cut in half. Use the first name. Anyway, the contest shall continue, for the fun of it. Aaaand I hope he will enjoy the song I have in my mind [''points to head''] that God has entrusted me to relay, for ''him'' to sing, that he enjoys it, and sees the meaning. The Lord loves us... [''puts hand over heart''] by our own name... [[Christopher's_name_change|our own true honest name]].

===From the Description sidebar===
{{quotebox|Also, I would like to document that Trolls are there also to make us Grow Up Emotionally. They try to break our spirits, keeping us down. But I still get back up and stand, Standing up for the things I know are right. I Dare to keep my Dreams and Love Alive.

<nowiki>**And, I would like to take this moment to offer my most Humble Apologies, now that I have a fuller understanding of things.</nowiki>

-I am sorry, [[Michael Snyder]], for acting the way I did; it's your Television, and I should have respected you. 
-I am sorry, [[Mary Lee Walsh]], You got the complaints from other people; You had your orders; You shattered my heart. Now, as I will soon draw you out of the comic pages as the villain, I forgive you for your misdeed of Heart-Shattering, and I would like very much to put this behind us after almost 6 years. 
-I am sorry, Megan Schroeder, I should have not been soo touchy-feely. I was feeling elated and excited; I meant no discomfort, and for the discomfort I have caused unto you, I apologize. 
-[[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]], I still do not understand your beef against me, but I apologize for having my mother and father confront you that night, and if you will let me know what I have done wrong unto you to cause you grief, I will be happy to listen and fully comprehend. 

Thank You, Trolls. 
Thank You, Encyclopedia Dramatica. 
Thank You, Loyal Fans. CWCipedia is the NEW Official Sonichu & Rosechu Site; Enjoy. 
Thank You All. :) }}

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Homos

2026-04-16T16:59:16Z

FurryChristorian789:

:''This article is about Chris's opinions on homosexual men and women. For Chris's identity as a lesbian transwoman, see [[Transgender]]. For Chris's bisexual identity, see [[Bisexual]]. For a general overview, see [[Chris and sexuality]].''

{{Honest}}
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{{Misinfo|It should be noted that Chris used this term interchangeably with gay men and trans women he perceived as being just gay men. He referred to the ones he saw as authentic women as "[[hermaphrodite|hermaphrodites]]". One should note the context of the conversations he was in whilst using these terms to determine what he was referring to.}}
{{Quote|I Am Straight; [[China|Vaginas]] and [[Plush breasts|Boobies]] Give Me MY [[Duck|ERECTIONS]]; You Damn Homos have NO CHANCE with me EVER.|[[Chris]].<ref>[[Mailbag 31]]</ref>}}
{{Quote|I'm bisexual trans woman! And I, I lick pussy and suck cocks!|Chris in [[2020]], flaunting his [[bisexuality]].<ref>[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet#July 2023 Leaks]]</ref>}}

[[Image:RainbowChris.jpg|thumb|Fun fact: [[Rainbow]] colors are the internationally recognized colors for the gay pride movement.]]

'''Homos''' was the pejorative term by which Chris referred to gay people – almost invariably gay males – nigh exclusively at the time of his discovery. He had also occasionally used phrases such as "those of the wrong orientation", because even saying the word "homo" or "gay" made him uncomfortable. Chris's former ire for male homosexuals was confusing, since they, of all people, posed the least threat to his [[Love Quest]], and seemed to be motivated entirely by his own sexual insecurities.

From the very beginning of his [[internet]] fame in [[2007]], his extreme opposition to homosexuality and his neurotic, obsessive demand that everyone "[[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|STAY STRAIGHT]]" had been one of his most noted and exploited aspects. Many interpreted his heteronormative crusade as a possible tell that he was repressing his sexuality in some fashion... Which ended up being the case in the long run. Over the course of the 2010s, Chris gradually recanted previous homophobic statements, becoming accepting of gay people, before eventually identifying as a [[bisexual]] [[Transgender|transwoman]] and proudly supporting what he called [[SLGBTQ]] causes.

==Past Homophobia==

{{quote|"Yes, I am a homophobe; I fear them all, and I fear the tormenting temptations of falling off the straight path. But then I mentally, sometimes from a DVD (and if you'll pardon the expression), shove some pussy in my face. I tell you what, if I ever stoop down to changing my path, I might as well would get a gender change operation."|Chris [[transgender|foreshadowing]]. <ref>E-mail to Megan, "I'm sorry... *[[sigh]]*:; Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 3:10 pm</ref>}}

Chris's homophobia apparently grew out of the complex stew of his [[noviophobia]], his failure to achieve his Love Quest, his admiration for [[My Little Pony|girly toys]], his own [[Chris and gender|gender confusion]], his loathing of [[muscle bra|male bodies]], and his [[autism]]. His terror was such that he was barely able to bring himself to even utter the word "gay" or any other term concerning gay people, except of course for "homo." He struggled with intrusive homosexual thoughts<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3]]</ref>; he said that he couldn't even look at a picture of a [[pickle]] without being "freaked out."<ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref> In [[Kill De Jack]], Chris revealed that he had to cover a section of his computer screen with a piece of paper so that he could browse the [[CWCipedia]] without looking at [[Jack Thaddeus]]'s pro-gay advertisements. Nothing got Chris angrier than being "mislabeled" as a homo.

Chris was not simply afraid of becoming a homo himself--he hated all gay men. This animosity seemed to result primarily from his fear of them (and all men) and their supposed ability or desire to make him gay. He had often characterized the [[trolls]] - all of them - as homos, which is either a basic ''ad hominem'' attack or a sincere belief that anyone who draws penises on [[Rosechu (character)|Rosechu]] must be gay. It also revealed a belief that all of his trolls are male, since Chris used "homo" exclusively in reference to gay men. This notion is not only [[Ivy|demonstrably]] [[Jackie|false]], but in fact [[Chris and reality|completely delusional]], since many of Chris's greatest trolls have been women, and Chris knows it. This exercise in selective memory likely stems from Chris's loathing of male [[JERKS]] and inversely-proportional adoration of [[Gal-pals|women]].

Notably, in [[IRC (02 January 2009)|an IRC chat]] from 2 [[January 2009]], Chris made this statement:

{{quote|if I could have it my way, I'd make it illegal and forbidden to have homo Men; women are safe. Also, I would have the secondary definition of the word "gay", being Homosexual, REMOVED from the word in the dictionaries, and all instinctions [sic] and sayings of the word will ONLY LEGALLY be used to mean HAPPY, as it was originally intended among songs like "[[Wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]"|Chris, 2 January 2009, 11:59.}}

[[Image:Bionic2.jpg|thumb|Chris projects his repressed homosexuality onto [[Bionic the Hedgehog|one of his own abominations]].]]

Chris further went on to propose a bizarre form of conversion therapy in which all gay men would be imprisoned and made to sleep with both female offenders and prostitutes against their will (read: basically rape), thereby "reprogramming" them. Interestingly, a certain [[wikipedia:Heinrich Himmler|Herr Himmler]] had a similar idea, suggesting that "pink triangle" concentration camp prisoners be forced to sleep with (female) camp prostitutes.

{{quote|[they would be] taken in and reprogrammed with multiple upon multiple pleasurable moments with female prison inmates and prosts.|Chris<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>}}

On 30 [[January 2010]], Chris voiced his sagacious opinion about the ban on homosexuals serving openly in the American military. He advocated the lifting of the ban, but only so that "[[Mailbag 49#Chris loves his country|the homos can go die in explosions]]."

It should also be noted that his homophobia was not limited exclusively to his digital escapades. As documented, Chris casually expressed homophobia at [[The GAMe PLACe]] (much to the disapproval of a card tournament organizer), particularly because he assumed the store's [[Manajerks|manager]] [[Michael Snyder]] and owner's son Tito were homosexual, upon hearing them joke around and exchange sarcastic romantic comments.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> Similarly, a homosexual card player named Eric was the target of hostility from Chris, the former even fearing for his life but [[Daniel Mimms]] doubted that Eric was under any real threat.

The universe of [[CWCville]] also saw an anti-gay jihad. On 5 [[January 2010]], Chris stated that [[Magi-Chan]] keeps a constant psychic surveillance to ensure that there are no homos in CWCville.<ref>[[Mailbag 31#Magi-Chan knows when you fuck]]</ref> When evidence of homosexuality is found, the people involved are [[Chris and the law|arrested and fined heavily]]. In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris's comic self travels into the future, where scientists have successfully isolated the "homo gene" (An idea stolen from the ''[[Family Guy]]'' episode "[[Wikipedia:Family Gay|Family Gay]]"). They have not, however, isolated the "straight gene", and are only able to when Chris donates his own blood (Chris has once remarked that [[Wikipedia:Sonderbehandlung|homosexuality could be cured by injecting blood from straight men into homosexuals]]). Chris then brought back to the present enough of the "cure" to turn every gay person on Earth straight. Ironically, a vaccination traditionally consists of introducing a small amount of the disease to a body to stimulate the immune system - so Chris unwittingly implied that his blood contains the dreaded homo virus.

A classic case of Chris's homophobia surfaced in the struggle over advertisements on his CWCipedia. Jack Thaddeus purchased ad space on the CWCipedia to put up 2 ads. One featured Peter Griffin of ''Family Guy'', pointing out that he and his creator, Seth MacFarlane, were supportive of gay rights; and the other promoted Mexican tourism with a cartoon cactus that Chris mistook for a [[pickle]]. Chris unsurprisingly went berserk, stating:

{{quote|I understand you getting paid to run ads in that box on the Cwcipedia. I feel okay with Vivian's [[Audiobooks]], BUT I feel OFFENDED with the Mexico Contest and Gay-Rights Ads. The Pickle on the Mexico ad reminds me of a terrible time in my past with Pickle-Suited TROLLS, and '''I AM AGAINST HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLES and FOR STRAIGHT HETEROSEXUALITY.'''|Chris.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150316170011/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:WikiSysop]
Wiki Sysop archive</ref>}}

In protest, Chris replaced Jack Thaddeus's gay-friendly ads with ads for [[wikipedia:Love In Action|Love In Action]] (an "ex-gay" ministry), ProtectMarriage.com (a site promoting [[wikipedia:California Proposition 8 (2008)|Proposition 8]]), and a site calling for a boycott of Pepsi due to their gay-friendliness. To sum it up, in one fell swoop, Chris managed to put in three big things that would ''not'' win him any gay friends whatsoever.

As with his fear of becoming a homo, the origins of Chris's deep homophobia are not clear. Certainly [[Bob]] had an influence, as the [[Matthew Noble call]] showed that he had the same kind of deranged hatred and prejudice as his son. On 7 January 2010, when answering the question of how he began hating the gay population, we got this interesting insight:

{{quote|I estimate that I started hating them about Summer, [[2003]] just after I started my Sweetheart Search, where I received the response from one woman, "Ooh, I'm sorry, I am a Lesbian." That, combined with my PAST dislike of MEN in general AND the later pictured images of such acts led me to DISGUST AND HATRED FOR THE HOMOSEXUALS. Plus ALL of the Homos within the Trolls AND all Homosexual Fans with their WRONGFUL Quoting of MY comics and characters in THEIR PAPERS and ESSAYS promoting homosexuality, and EVEN WORSE a Sonichu BALLOON in one of their God DAMED Pride Parades!!! ALL OF THESE FACTORS have ONLY made my view of the Homosexual Males WORSE!|[[Common Questions#Answered 07 January 2010|Chris, before finally stating (for the umpteenth time) that Sonichu is straight.]]}}

If this is true, Chris made no reference to it at the time, restricting his hatred solely to the heterosexual male [[JERKS]]. It is certainly ironic considering his more recent views on lesbianism. It also adds another interesting aspect to his hatred: Chris's frustration with homos is influenced by his being childish and whiny about not getting his way with ''one'' woman who turned him down. We wouldn't expect anything different from him.

He later expressed anxiety towards gays in his classic "[[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|Future Message]]," released in February 2007.

Chris knows that his homophobia was unpopular with [[True and Loyal Fanbase|his fans]], and he often tried to persuade the public that he respects homosexuals for "who they are". However, he usually betrayed his sincere intolerance of different lifestyles soon afterward - often within the same statement. On [[CWC Update 18 February 2009|18 February 2009]], for example, Chris issued one of his retractions of his previous homophobic remarks and declared that he respects "the gay people" just as he respects his gal pals and his [[List of Chris's sweethearts|sweethearts]]. However, this was done at the insistence of [[Julie]]; [[CWC with Bible - Leviticus|a mere month later]] Chris was [[Chris and religion|reciting verses from the Bible]] to once again preach against the vile homos.

On 14 [[June 2009]], Chris posted a "[[music]]" [[video]] called "[[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]]", which, in his tradition of ruining everything you ever loved, is a homophobic version of [[Wikipedia:Uncle Ruckus|Uncle Ruckus]]'s satirical song "Don't Trust Them New Niggas Over There" from ''[[Wikipedia:The Boondocks|The Boondocks]]''. Later on that same day, he published an [[I'm Sorry, Dude|apology]] for the video and insisted that he likes gays who "ac...accomplish other things, like [[Wikipedia:Stephen Fry|Stephen Fry]], who was a homosexual, but y'know he did a good job being a narrator on ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]''." Chris was of course unaware of the various other career accomplishments of Stephen Fry. It seems that this apology was only posted in the first place for the sake of his gal-pal [[Kim]]'s boyfriend, whose gay brother apparently lost both his arms in Iraq.

[[Image:CWCRockin4Way.jpg|thumb|"If I was a homosexual or anything like that, would I not be [[Warning - Naughty Women ;)|having sex with THREE WOMEN?"]]]]

On 6 August 2009, at a time when the trolls were getting the most mileage out of baiting Chris regarding his sexual orientation, Chris posted a wide-ranging, [[Chris and anger|hate-fuelled]] rant on the [[CWCipedia]] which he hoped would clear up all misconceptions. His "Address to the Homosexuals," subtitled "I AM STRAIGHT!!! NOT HOMO; NOT BI; STRAIGHT!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS!" is a classic statement on the issue. Unfortunately it had no noticeable effect on the trolling. The essay in full<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20160330210442/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Homosexuality] CWC Homosexuality archive</ref>:

{{quotebox|
Good day, I write this essay with sound mind to address the major issues that has been bugging me constantly for the past few yeas, The Pressure and '''Stress''' FROM the Homosexual Population.

First off, as I have said OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND '''OVER Infinite Number Of Times''', ''I, “Christopher” Christian “Ricardo” Weston Chandler, AM STRAIGHT.'' '''[[Tomgirl Saga|No Question or Shadow of a Doubt, EVER.]]'''

I personally respect the individual people as fellow human beings, and I am cool with associating with them as acquaintances and friends, but Please Do Not Wave Around what you do behind closed doors around me; '''NOBODY CARES TO KNOW; I PERSONALLY DO NOT CARE TO KNOW.''' Even within my imagination, I Do Not Care to even have the pictures Randomly Pop up in my head. Every time of such pictures’ appearance, ''I feel Queasy and want to Throw Up.'' I humbly apologize for being offensive, but that is how I feel.

As a human being, I have no hard feelings conversing and associating with the homosexuals at any time. Individually, they each have a right to their own opinions, perceptions and peaceful lives. I fully understand and respect that.

''The only thing that really Grinds My Gears Harshly is being '''Wrongfully Labeled as a Homosexual when I am straight.'''''

I am aware of the way I [[Speech impediment|stutter]], space my words and all that from the way I talk, but I assure you, that I sometimes have trouble fully comprehending situations and status at first; it sometimes takes me a long while before I can fully comprehend and make an appropriate reaction. In another word, ''I am Sometimes Retarded.''

And the ONLY REASON I have not had sex yet in my lifetime WITH A WOMAN yet, is because '''the WHOLE TIME, I have been SHY'''; kept down with the ''Personal Fear of nearly EVERY Woman I see being Already Paired-Up with a Boyfriend''. I am not a man who likes confrontations with the guy who has spoken for the woman I’m eying over. And during my High School Years, '''I WAS NAÏVE on the subject of DATING''' (''Bring in Dating Education Classes, and Run them Alongside or Before Sexual Education, and make Dating Education Equally Mandatory)''. [[Honor roll|It had not dawned on me that I NEEDED TO BE DATING until AFTER I had turned Twenty-One-Years Old]], during my Third Year attending Piedmont Virginia Community College.

And my '''Sonichu and Rosechu Comic Pages'''; again, I understand each individual person has their own perception of things, BUT Contrary to the individual perceptions among some people, '''The Comics, Drawings, and ALL Words ALL HAD NO MEANING OF ANYTHING Homosexual Whatsoever!''' I Personally in Real Life AND in the Comic Pages and all that '''PROMOTE BEING STRAIGHT''', No Question or Shadow of a Doubt.

All Those of You have Heavily Wrongfully Misunderstood Parts of All the Comic Pages and all that of such.

'''I, All my Sonichus, Rosechus, and citizens of Cwcville, Virginia, Do Not Appreciate At All Being Wrongfully Labled as homosexuals. IT REALLY INFURIATES ME, Sonichu, Rosechu and EVERYBODY ELSE.'''

I have also heard of My Sonichu being ''written in College Essays that promote homosexuality.'' And even worse, ''promoting him in the Gay Pride Parades.'' '''WRONG LABELS; STOP WRITING OR PROMOTING ME OR MY CHARACTERS AS SUCH!''' ''[[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|ALL Sonichus Are Straight!]] [[Silvana Rosechu|ALL Rosechus Are Straight!]] I Am Straight! My Comics are STRAIGHT COMICS.'' I, Sonichu and Rosechu, '''We Never Want to be part of ANY AND ALL Homosexual-Promoting Papers or Events, because with EVERY ITEM that is created from NOT OF MY OWN HANDS that EVEN Inklings such Wrongful Labelings upon, ME, Sonichu, Rosechu, and ALL MY STRAIGHT CHARACTERS, WE ARE ALL BEING DISREPECTED!'''

We will Never Take the Misunderstandings, Mislabelings And All The Like Sitting Down.

I, Personally, would RATHER have a PAINFUL Gender-Change Operation than EVER Turn Homosexual.

'''So, to reiterate, I, and 96 % of ALL CHARACTERS, are ALL STRAIGHT!''' ''NEVER EVER CALL me, my comics, or any of MY STRAIGHT Characters GAY!''

<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*

And to conclude, while I personally do not care about the homosexual lifestyle that swift, and I personally respect each individual homosexual person as individual human beings, '''The MAIN thing that really Infuriates Me is being called gay. DO NOT EVER Call Me Gay, or EVER Question My Sexual Orientation.
'''

''I, “Christopher” Christian “Ricardo” Weston Chandler, Am Straight. Period.
''

Thank you.}}

On 12 January 2010, Chris again appeared to soften his stance, saying that "I am decreeing that homosexuals will have equal relationship rights within CWCville." However, in the same breath Chris clarified, "gay marriage is still Illegal and Wrong. And [[Magi-Chan]] will stay out of those people's heads under my request."<ref>[[CWC Blog#12 January 2010]]</ref> The reason why gay marriage isn't an "equal relationship right" is not readily apparent.

===Defenses against becoming a homo===
[[Image:CWCIsSTRAIGHT.jpg|thumb|According to Chris, heterosexuals defend their sexuality by [[Chris Destroys His Vibrator|stomping on vibrators and showcasing index cards indicating their straightness on their shoes.]]]]
It's hard work for a warrior of true love and honesty to stay straight. Chris used many strange and totemic objects, from a [[Sailor Moon Poster of Fail|poster of Sailor Moon]] to his [[Optimus Prime]] toy, to aggressively assert his straightness. Chris has said that he stared at his Sailor Moon poster every day to stave off temptations of homosexuality. The centerfold poster of [[The Simpsons#Marge poster|Marge Simpson's ''Playboy'' edition]] was another of Chris's many defenses against becoming a homo. The fact that she is a married cartoon character does not seem to have dissuaded him. Chris also subscribed to ''Playboy'' to help keep himself straight. You could tell he's straight because when he's explaining what he finds attractive in women it only takes five seconds for him to get around to breasts and [[china]].

When homosexual (or potentially homosexual) fans sent Chris questions on the CWCipedia asking for tips to STAY STRAIGHT, Chris tended to suggest what essentially amounts to self-brainwashing. Some of his ideas included thinking of naked women and how awesome they are, and imagining being struck by painful lightning whenever a homosexual thought occurs.<ref name="ReferenceA"/> He also clarified that one needs not buy a Sailor Moon poster in particular; any poster featuring attractive women (preferably in bikinis and looking sexy) will do the trick. He believes these rituals are necessary to "maintain" sexual attraction to women.<ref name="ReferenceA">[[Mailbag 3#Hypnotize away the gay|Mailbag #3]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 3#Sexy posters|Mailbag #3]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 4#Dissolving homoerotic thoughts in stomach acid|Mailbag #4]]</ref>

Chris has also encouraged women to not [[Alcohol|drink]], [[Tobacky|smoke]], or be physically abused while pregnant, as this could cause the baby to be born homosexual, as if Homosexuality is like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. <ref>[[Mailbag 5#Daniel Tammet/Punching your baby will make it gay|Mailbag #5]]</ref> Chris is also convinced that his chances of becoming homosexual have been raised because he did not engage in heterosexual intercourse before maturation,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20160630043451/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Dating_Education] old CWCki Dating Education archive</ref> hence his oft-stated regret that he did not get [[dating education]] classes in high school, and his recommendation that they be made available for the youth of today.

==Lesbianism==
Whereas Chris's discomfort with homosexual males has been fairly consistent, his views on lesbianism have wildly vacillated. In Chris's ''Carrie'' rip-off, "[[The High School Story]]", his Mary Sue character Terrah LeAnne Yowman is ridiculed and accused of being a lesbian by kids at her high school because she hangs around with male friends. As the work serves as a backstory to the villainous [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]], Terrah's bullying may have served as a fictional inverse parallel to the endless accusations of homosexuality lodged by Chris' detractors, illustrating Chris' worldview of implied homosexuality as an insult.

{{quote|She felt angry when she heard "Lesbian"; when called that, she would leave the bully an intimidating [[Creepy stare|glare]] with a purple glow from her green eyes. Then soon after, a Strong, Straight [[Christian Weston Chandler|Homophobe]] would attack that bully with [[Chris and religion|No Mercy]]; beat the crap out of that person.|"[[The High School Story]]"}}

On 25 July 2009, Chris produced a [[CWC "Boyfriend"|rambling and nonsensical video]] to the tune of Avril Lavigne's "Girlfriend". In the middle of the video, Chris sings about the importance of "being straight" and intersperses a "STAY STRAIGHT" caption on a photo of a lesbian couple split in two.

{{quote|
Hey! Hey! You! You!
I know that you like me!
Hey, you! Hey, you!
You need to be straight, girl!
Hey! Hey! You! You!
I want to be your boyfriend! }}

Later, Chris would gradually revise his former hard-line attitude against lesbians. In ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', Chris goes out of his way to state that the [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|children]] of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] are watched over by [[Heather Iglesias]], whom he characterizes as "a pretty, trustworthy, good natured Spanish Lesbian."<ref name="Cwcipedia: Sonichu">[https://web.archive.org/web/20160324174526/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Cwcipedia: Sonichu]</ref> He further mentions that Heather keeps her sexuality a secret from the kids at the request of Sonichu himself.<ref name="Cwcipedia: Sonichu"/> Chris may have shoehorned a lesbian character into ''Sonichu'' to appear more tolerant, but his attempt comes off as half-hearted in light of his continual derision of gay men and insistence that Heather hide her sexuality.

In [[Mumble 1]], which took place on the last day of 2009, Chris declared his support for lesbians and reiterated his simultaneous hatred for gay men, stating that he hated [[JERKS]] in general, and how (typically) a porn DVD helped to soften his view on lesbians. In effect, Chris claimed that he supports lesbians because he believes women are beautiful, and hates gay men because men are icky.

{{quote|Uhh. Pretty much but it's like you know, between lesbians, it's like, hmm, partial [dis]courage. But then it's- but then again, but then between guys instead I would definitely 100% discourage. In my humble opinion...I've uh talked to others before with uh, [[PandaHalo|Sarah]], my uh s-s-Sarah, my girlfriend. I can not be willing to do a threesome with uh two women, but defina- but definitely never with two guys.|Chris, [[Mumble 1]]}}

{{quote|Yes, Yes they are- yes they're they're more beautf- they're more beautiful. They're like, they're really- they're truly like works of art in their own way- just like yeah you know, just like you know the statues that uh, were in past times.|Chris, [[Mumble 1]]}}

On 28 [[March 2013]], Chris posted a public [[Facebook#Gay Marriage |Facebook message]] whining about repeat media coverage of the Supreme Court's [[:wikipedia:Hollingsworth v. Perry|Proposition 8]] and [[:wikipedia:United States v. Windsor|DOMA]] deliberations. In it, he reiterated his support for lesbians and his disapproval of "the damn homosexual males".

By 14 [[August 2014]], Chris's [[transgender]] status had proceeded to coming out as a "lesbian-identified male." In his coming out post, he posted a picture of himself holding an LGBT flag, but stated that "I support the LBT fully; the G.[ay] M.[ale]s are fortunate to be on this boat."<ref>[[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out...kinda]]</ref> On 31 [[October 2014]], Chris spent that [[Halloween]] at a gay bar dressed as a "Groovy 70's Lesbian",<ref>[[October 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref> further evidencing his apparent acceptance of homosexuality, in that visiting a gay bar was THE thing Chris had specified on multiple occasions in the past that he would never do in his life.

Through [[2017]], Chris expressed his interest in media ripe with lesbian implications; hinted at to the point in which he fantasizes himself in the act. Prior to his relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], Chris complained of his loneliness by comparing to himself to ''[[Life Is Strange]]'' lesbian deuteragonist Chloe Price.

==Shifting Stance on Gay People==
[[File:CWC's FB like on news about gay men, April 2017.png|thumb|200px|Chris likes a news item about gay men, April 2017.]]

Not long after coming out as a "male lesbian," Chris felt deeply uncomfortable with being perceived as "gay" or "homo," and in Facebook statements attempted to exclude gay men from his crusade for gender equality. No doubt under the influence of his new sweetheart [[Catherine]] and other gal-pals, Chris retracted these clumsy statements, apologizing for the umpteenth time.

{{quote|I am accepting of the gays as people, just like most any individual person. Seriously, you all be proud of who you are. All I ask is not to find any reason to feel anger towards anyone of any orientation, race or whatever, based on their individual actions or offense as an individual person of self. Also, please disregard all of my past and Way past thoughts of turning gays straight; that was very wrong of me. I am very sorry about that, and continue to be true and proud of yourselves for who you are, as I am Very Proud of myself for being a Lesbian Transgender (a Female, Lesbian Soul trapped in a male body).|Chris, surprisingly redeemable.<ref>[[September 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref>}}

He also announced his support for the Human Rights Campaign, going so far as to say that homophobics "are none other than the Cyber-Bullies and Internet Trolls who put hate on the innocent around the world; Young and Old. Some of which even put pressure on to force you into being something you know fully that you are Not!" Interestingly, his prior notion that all trolls are homosexuals had been completely reversed to the idea that they're all homo''phobes'', illustrating that Chris still believes that any detractor of his is part of an organized movement and [[Chris and his Ego|has personal flaws]].

However, if the past is any judge, the end of his relationship with Catherine has no doubt caused his homophobia to resurface. He confirmed in late 2014 that despite the fact that comic Chris shares his new gender identity, [[Reldnahc]], his opposite, is still an evil violent homo.<ref>[[Commissions]]</ref>

On 26 [[June 2015]], the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of gay marriage. Chris, shockingly enough, reacted very positively towards this:

{{Quotebox|Congratulations to us all for Nationwide Marriage Equality! If a holiday be made of June 26, 2015, how about ‪#‎PridependenceDay‬!

Now, I still require my Sweetheart to be my future wife. As a ‪#‎Lesbian‬ ‪#‎Transwoman‬, I do feel I am compatible with Any woman.

And No, I am not mistaken. I have been genuinely feeling and [[List of Chris's lies|identifying like a woman for about my whole lifetime]]. I never could appreciate the [[JERK|male's]] Neanderthal interests. And I felt more appreciative and comprehending of [[Women's Rights|fashions, makeup, shopping]], [[Chris and remorse|empathy]], identifying feelings and [[Death threats|looking to resolve problems]] [[Sub-episodes|reasonably]].

Plus, I have a great deal of [[Chris and Anger|self control]], and I can bring good and pleasant [[semen|tidings]] to an all woman party.

‪#‎LoveWins‬ ‪#‎OneFamily‬ ‪#‎LGBTQ‬ ‪#‎Pridependence‬ ‪#‎Pride‬}}

In [[October 2015]], Chris released a [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.|video]] in which he apologizes for his past homophobic statements and iterates that he is now supportive of male homosexuals, while still drilling the point home that Sonichu and Rosechu are straight. He almost simultaneously [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retconned]] [[Sonichu 10]] and replaced the fictional gay epidemic with a bizarre [[Nombie-zazis|Nazi zombie]] premise, which still has homophobic implications given the context of the comic.

As of [[April 2021]], Chris seems comfortable enough identifying as bisexual that he feels that he can casually use the terms "fag" and "faggot" to describe other people ([[Chris and hypocrisy|but not himself]]), thinking that the slurs are words that the LBGT+ community universally wants to {{w|Reappropriation|reclaim}}. In reality, such a position is a point of controversial debate in the community, and the way Chris used the term was predictably met with backlash for being careless, tone-deaf, and potentially hurtful.<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#"Fag"]]</ref>

==See also==
{{CWCipedia|chris=Homosexuality}}

* [[Bisexual]]
* [[Chris and religion]]
* [[Chris and sex]]
* [[Chris and sexuality]]
* [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet]]
* [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]]
* [[Gay 4 Sonichu]]
* [[Hermaphrodite]] - The term, but for trans women.
* [[It's UGH!]]
* [[Reldnahc Naitsirhc]]
* [[SLGBTQ]]
* [[Tomgirl]]

{{References}}
{{Sexuality}}
[[Category:Homos]]

The GAMe PLACe

2026-03-17T00:50:03Z

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{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from [[August 2011]] until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995. It is located about 12 miles away from [[14 Branchland Court]].

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant [[Chris and race|racism]] with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and the former owner's son Tito were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police.

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

In an email account of the incident, Chris justified his attempted intrusion by noticing the store was under new management and assumed this would allow him an opportunity to get his ban repealed, only to find out that Michael was still working there, thus conflict ensued.<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email]]</ref>

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he played. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also wished for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

{{Notes}}
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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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The GAMe PLACe

2026-03-17T00:32:03Z

FurryChristorian789: Noticed the article didn't mention something described in the Mimms and Lucas Q&A

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from [[August 2011]] until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995. It is located about 12 miles away from [[14 Branchland Court]].

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant [[Chris and race|racism]] with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and the former owner's son Tito were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police.

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he put together his decks. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also wished for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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Chris and video games

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{{quote|And [[Bob Chandler|Christian's father]] says it only takes a few hours for him to master an electronic game, and then...move onto another! I can't master any of them.|A TV anchorwoman on a younger Chris winning the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].}}

[[Image:LoveThatLifeUpgrade.jpg|thumb|Chris tried having sex with a video game console once. [[Chris humps his PS3|It didn't work out]].]]

In case a cursory glance at this wiki did not tell you, Chris likes '''video games'''. A lot. In fact, Chris definitely has spent more time on video games than any other activity or pursuit, including his [[Love Quest]]. He has said he spends between two and four hours a day playing games,<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 7]]</ref> and the real figure is likely higher than what he admits to.

Without delving too deeply into armchair psychiatry, it is not hard to see why video games hold so much appeal to Chris. His brain is wired to operate according to [[Autism|absolute values and rigidly-defined processes]]. This is one of the reasons he has so much difficulty in the real world — the rules keep changing on him- if he figures out the rules in the first place. In the artificial world of video games, the challenges are the kind that his inflexible mind is able to comprehend and surmount. There, the rules never change, and all he has to do is follow them. [[Chris and reality|Reality isn't quite as simple]], which is why he spends as little time out there as possible.

==Early Years==
Chris has been an avid gamer since a very young age. He first played video games on a [[Commodore 64]] home computer system. Before he was eight years old, he had a Game Boy and a [[Nintendo]] Entertainment System, and he acquired more consoles and games throughout the 1990s. According to [[The Sonichu Chronicles]], he has been a fan of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] since the character's [[1991]] debut for the Sega Genesis. His game collection really took off in [[1993]], when he won his famous shopping spree in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] and added $1,000 worth of Sega games and hardware to his hoard.

==Chris's game collection==
[[Image:404-SpiderManSignedGame.jpg|thumb|Well, if ''[[No More Jokes|Spider-Man]]'' says it...]]

{{main|List of Chris's games}}

Although the last completely reliable account of his collection dates back all the way to [[January 2009]], Chris owns, conservatively, nearly 850 different game titles across twenty different platforms. He sold off roughly one hundred games in various trips to GameStop and local pawn shops during the late summer and early fall of 2010, but this hardly depletes the reserves, at all. He also maintained an account with the mail-order rental service GameFly until [[August 2010]].

[[Sony]] consoles dominate Chris's collection. Counting the games he has downloaded through the [[PlayStation Network]], nearly half of his games belong to the PlayStation family. Nintendo comes next, including more than 100 games for Nintendo's different portable platforms, and Sega brings [[Homos|up the rear]]. While he owns every Sega console short of an 8-bit Master System, and Sonic the Hedgehog is one of his favorite individual franchises, games for Sega consoles make up less than 15-10% of Chris's collection.

Chris's violent hatred of the [[Xbox]] is well-known, but [[Chris and hypocrisy|he likely owns, or at one point owned, an original Xbox console]]. However, it is not known how much time he has spent on Xbox games. His [[List of Chris's eBay sales|eBay account]] shows that he tried to sell off a handful of Xbox games in the summer of [[2008]]. The record of his eBay sales also indicates that, in addition to owning at least one of every machine he owns games for, he has gone through at least three or four of Sony's original PlayStation consoles over the years. It is possible that he has had to replace a few of the infamously fragile apparatuses for overuse, but this could also be an indication that he bought the systems and games in bundles.

It is virtually impossible to gauge exactly how much money has been shoveled into Chris's game collection over the past few decades. Knowledgeable [[trolls]], however, reckon that his physical collection of games and hardware represents around $20,000. His PSN downloads, meanwhile, can be accurately accounted for – there, the bill is close to $3,500 and surely climbing all the while. One of the more grievous examples of Chris's video-game-related overspending is his apparent ownership of at least two copies of the eighty-dollar ''[[Street Fighter]] IV Collector's Edition'', as evidenced by the two identical exclusive Ryu figurines he later sold on eBay. While it is possible that Chris received the second figure from an outside source or packaging error, his attempt to bribe [[BlueSpike]] [[Julie Reveals Herself: The Prequel|with a copy of the game]] and his habit of wasting money for no particular reason lend credence to the former theory.

In January 2015, it was leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, ''racking up '''585''' transactions'' in the last 4.5 years,<ref>[[Nintendo employee reveals details of Chris's Nintendo transactions]]</ref> or 150 payments a year. This list includes useless shovelware, Virtual Console games, and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he does not even like.]] Of these, 276 purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (''buying '''4''' DS and DSi consoles''), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind that 39% of the purchases Chris has on his account (such as Skylanders figures, amiibos, and his Wii U Virtual Console purchases) are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high figure. Apparently, his main attention and [[Nintendo Power Magazine|fanboyism]] has shifted from PlayStation back to Nintendo, for unknown reasons.

This leak also revealed that Chris plays almost every game demo available on the eShop, Nintendo's online downloadable video game store, even if he has no interest in said game. This leak also confirmed he had bought every single [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] game and primary [[Pokémon]] RPG, proving that he is still a major fanboy of [[Sonichu (comic)|both franchises]], and also confirmed that he still makes many purchases multiple times over for no apparent reason, such as of ''Wario's Woods''.

==Game Preferences==
Going on what evidence is available, such as what he has talked about on his websites and [[YouTube]], what his PSN profile shows the most effort put into, and what he decides to construct elaborate fan-works around, Chris has fairly childish, "casual" tastes in video games. Though he puts an inordinate level of effort and time into gaming, he does so playing stuff like Sonic, ''[[Pokémon]]'', ''[[Animal Crossing]]'', ''[[Guitar Hero]]'', and other games geared toward more mainstream and less "hardcore" audiences. His favorite racing game, ''ModNation Racers'', is a straightforward title that allows players to create their own tracks and cars. ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' earned a rabid following with its level editor, but otherwise, it is just another side-scrolling platform game (and Chris hardly strains the level editor to the limits of its potential). Much of his PSN trophy case is filled out with achievements obtained by playing simple downloadable demoscene and indie productions.

Chris has purchased a fair share of M-rated games, such as ''Family Guy: The Video Game'', ''Grand Theft Auto'', and ''Call of Duty''<ref>[[List of Chris's video games]]
</ref>, which shows that his interest in games is not necessarily limited to the E rating. These games, however, tend to be fairly shallow in terms of gameplay. ''[[Brutal Legend Plus|Brütal Legend]]'' isn't remarkably deep as far as gameplay is concerned; while the game is an M-rated title with swearing, decapitations, heavy metal music, and tricky real-time strategy elements, for the most part, the atmosphere is still jolly and humorous enough, and the majority of gameplay consists of exploring the world and having straightforward beat-'em-up fights. Some have questioned whether or not Chris's interest in ''Brütal Legend'' was because of an affinity for director [[Wikipedia:Tim Schafer|Tim Schafer]]'s other quirky, offbeat games such as ''[[Wikipedia:Psychonauts|Psychonauts]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Grim Fandango|Grim Fandango]]''. While Chris might be drawn to the perceived [[random-access humor]] of those games, it is more likely that they were too intelligent for him, and thus hold no appeal to his childish mind. Chris's interest in ''Brütal Legend'' was most likely due to Jack Black voicing the main character, and possibly [[Chris and music|his failed attempts to be seen as a connoisseur of music]].

The games that Chris owns are not necessarily the games that Chris plays. His PSN downloads strongly suggest that he spends money on his gaming hobby more or less out of compulsion. Witness the $65 he spent on downloadable content for ''Disgaea 3'', a game he had only played to 7% completion several months after originally buying all those downloads. It is reasonable to assume that Chris has similar spending habits in real life, a theory bolstered somewhat by his retro game collections and a house full of junk. Chris's collections of games for the Sega CD, Sega Saturn, and a couple of other now-dead consoles are dominated by bargain-bin trash, extremely common or poor quality games that are easily bought at low prices. No knowledgeable gamer would ever pay money for ''Power Factory Featuring C+C Music Factory'', except maybe as a gag gift, but Chris apparently thought it was worth owning. This habit seems to be picked up from [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] and continues to this day in the form of eShop shovelware and Virtual Console downloads.

His collection does a good job of telling us what sort of games Chris does not play, though. Outside of the ''Pokémon'' series, for instance, he evinces no interest in role-playing games. Most of the non-Pokémon RPGs in his collection, like ''Suikoden'' and ''Final Fantasy VII'', are PlayStation retro releases he impulse-bought through the PSN. Chris buys those up like penny candy – he has even downloaded several digital duplicates of PlayStation games of which he already owns physical copies. He has played a handful of the ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'' games, even earning all the trophies for ''Megadimension Neptunia VII'', but for the most part his interest was focused squarely on the anime adaptation of the games.

Despite being obsessed with ''Pokémon'', ''Animal Crossing'' and Nintendo consoles as a whole, he is not a hardcore Nintendo fan as some might suspect. He never seems to show interest in the latest content from Nintendo, and the hardcore Nintendo games he does own (such as games from the ''Metroid'', ''The Legend of Zelda'' and ''Mario'' franchises) are most likely just collecting dust on his game collection racks. However, a January 2014 leak by a Nintendo Employee revealed that Chris had, in fact, returned to his Nintendo roots, buying nearly every single game on the eShop.

He owns almost no sports games. In the [[Mailbag 2|Mailbag]], he once noted that "Sports titles do not really thrill me," although he did not explain exactly [[Obesity|why.]]

With a few exceptions, Chris has no apparent interest in video games marketed towards his own age group, which is unsurprising. "Hardcore" games aimed at "adults" are games that simply would not interest Chris because of his juvenile mindset. Video games (and anything else, for that matter) with mature themes that are not two-dimensionally crass and full of [[random-access humor]] would probably confuse and bore Chris and make him feel awkward and uncomfortable, adding to the fact he probably would not be able to get very far in the game. This is supported by the fact that he did try out ''Bioshock'', a first-person shooter with RPG elements, but only for a short time and never touched it again. Most likely the whole game itself flew right over Chris's head and he decided to play some ''Wheel of Fortune'' instead. However, ever since his [[100 2357.MOV|sixth declaration that he has left the internet]] in late [[2010]], some more high-profile games aimed at adults have appeared on his PSN Trophy list (such as ''Grand Theft Auto IV'' and ''Fallout: New Vegas''). Apparently the ''Hannah Montana'' PS3 game is no longer enough to fill his abundance of free time, and he has taken to playing games he would not normally be doing anything else with his life.

While he sometimes gets tagged with the "[[Japanophilia|weeaboo]]" label, Chris does not appear to prefer games made in Japan over any other part of the world. In fact, his favorite games of 2008-2009, the period where he has told us the most about what he plays, are pretty evenly divided between Japan (''Sonic'', ''Pokémon''), the United States (''Guitar Hero'', ''Brütal Legend''), Canada (''ModNation Racers''), and Europe (''LittleBigPlanet''). He counts a few Japanese Game Boy and Nintendo DS imports in his larger collection, but they are obviously titles he picked up to try and impress/bribe [[Megan Schroeder]] — almost all of them are spin-offs from popular anime, especially magical girl series like ''Sailor Moon'' and ''Pretty Cure''.

When Chris and Megan still got along well together, they were serious players of the arcade version of ''[[Soul Calibur]] III''. There is also an arcade in Chris's plans for the [[CWCville Shopping Center]]. However, given Chris's inclinations to retreat into the comfortable confines of his bedroom, the chances he goes to arcades are slim.

==Chris, the Brave Console Warrior==
Chris thinks the perennial "Console Wars" between rival manufacturers of game machines are extremely serious affairs, and engages in them with all of the bile and fervor of a 10-year-old child soldier in the PlayStation Army. On rare occasions, he has almost seemed rational in this respect, saying he "just doesn't like" or "doesn't care much for" the Xbox, but most of the time he does not mince words when describing the vile, loathsome, and [[Car Pranks|blatantly stupid]] [[HEXBox]]. By comparison, he has waxed poetic when describing the awesomeness of the [[PS3]], most prominently in his [[PS3 History Level]] for ''LittleBigPlanet''. According to [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Video games|Lucas]], Chris would even express his fury over the Xbox in public while hanging out at [[The GAMe PLACe]].

It is hard to tell where Chris's religious devotion to the PlayStation comes from, but to call it "religious" is not hyperbole. Like his faith in [[Chris and religion|GodJesus]], his support for Sony is blind and unthinking. Though he can come up with a simple justification for his opinions in a pinch — typically he brings up the annual fee for online gaming on Xbox Live — Chris shows no sign of having put any serious thought or research into his choice of consoles. His descriptions of the PS3's advantages in places like his [[Chris Chan Update 13 October 2008|Columbus Day 2008 video]] tend to sound like a collection of marketing buzzwords (as filtered through the mind of a [[Chris's room|cave-dwelling]] autist, anyway).

Interestingly, Chris was not always a blindly devoted fan of Sony. In the [[Animal Crossing Documentary]], we see that back in [[2003]], Chris pledged his allegiance to Nintendo and the GameCube, stating that both the predecessors of the PS3 stank as much as the original Xbox. His feelings changed when he bought a PS1 at a "rummage sale" for cheap, intending to resell it elsewhere for profit, but instead played it and found it was not bad.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref> One would expect this to be a lesson against nonsensical [[Chris and brand loyalty|brand loyalty]], but instead Chris just focused his hatred on Microsoft. Likely, prior to this Chris was a Sega fanatic at Nintendo's expense; if true, then it demonstrates how [[List of Chris's sweethearts|fickle]] Chris is regarding devotion.

When asked what his thoughts were on the then-up and coming [[Nintendo Switch]] in [[2017]], Chris responded in Chris [[Mailbag 29|fashion]], and simply stated that he has no [[Exercise|thoughts]] on it, due to being [[stress|preoccupied]]. He would eventually acquire his own Switch a few years later.

[[File:Thoughts_On_Switch_Jan_19_2017.png|thumb|[[Mailbag 29|Whatever]]]]

Unsurprisingly, Chris is ignorant of things he has chosen not to like. The only 360 game he's seemed to show interest in, [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xbox360/995562-dont-be-nervous-talking-to-girls "Don't Be Nervous Talking to Girls"], seen in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] being modified for the PS3, was suggested to him by the fans. Though the game is just a crappy dating sim, and there are other 360-exclusive games which would appeal to him, Chris claimed that it was the only game worth playing on the 360.

Even slinging mud at the names of the consoles is very serious business to Chris. In [[Lars Call]], Chris says he does not like it when people call PS3 the "PS Triple", because that is what [[trolls]] call it. Of course, this comes from a man who [[Chris and hypocrisy|ceaselessly rants about the "Hex Box"]].

==Chris and Online Gaming==
Perhaps unsurprisingly, given his antisocial nature, Chris is not fond of online multiplayer games in any genre, be they sports sims, shooters, racing games, or whatever else. Though he owns several games for the PS3 and other consoles that would allow him to play online and interact with other people, his PSN profile shows that he has put little time into multiplayer games.

In 2010 and afterward, two exceptions to this rule emerged. He did a good deal of online racing in ''ModNation Racers'' during the summer of 2010, while, early in 2011, Chris began to show an interest in an online role-playing game for the first time, ''DC Universe Online''. His fondness for ''ModNation'' competition eventually passed, but it remains to be seen whether or not he will develop a lasting interest in MMO gaming.

Dedicated observers of Chris's gaming habits may notice a bit of a paradox developing here: Chris claims to hate the Xbox 360 because Microsoft requires a $50 annual subscription fee for online multiplayer gaming. It is a mystery, then, why this would wind him up so badly, when he hardly plays any multiplayer games, but such is the nature of Chris. [[Mailbag]] correspondents have tried to point out the seeming contradiction here, not to mention the weird contrast between Chris's thriftiness as far as Xbox Live is concerned and the massive amounts of money he willing wastes on worthless digital trinkets through Nintendo and the PSN. For all the good it has done, though, they may as well have tried to change his opinion of [[Asperger syndrome]].

In later years, Chris would begin playing online games on his Switch and PC, playing titles such as ''[[Tetris 99]]'' and ''[[Payday 2]]''.

===Chris, the Trophy Whore===
While Chris has little evident interest in directly interacting with other humans in online games, he does seem to enjoy building up a massive trophy case to passively show off on his PlayStation Network profile. He has doggedly played through a number of games in order to earn every available achievement, and on occasion he appeals to his [[fanbase]] for help in earning trophies. For instance, he begged readers of his [[Twitter]] feed to download his ''ModNation Racers'' levels so he could pick up one more trophy.

Slacker that he is, Chris prefers to put forth as little effort as possible to earn his trophies. Presented with a trophy in ''LittleBigPlanet 2'' that asked him to contribute a custom level to the game's online community, he fulfilled the requirement by uploading an empty level with no work put into it. (When this level was deleted by the community's administrators, he took the next-easiest route and uploaded his old levels made with the first ''LittleBigPlanet''.) In an [[Jackie E-mails 6|e-mail to Jackie]], he expressed great pleasure when the ''ModNation'' experience system was patched to make certain trophies easier to acquire.

Counting duplicate games (like ports to different Sony consoles) and games separated into episodes, Chris has earned all the trophies in over 76 games on the PSN.

==Chris and PC Games==
Games for personal [[computers]] are conspicuously absent from Chris's collection and his evident game-playing habits. The only sign that he has ever even owned any PC games comes from his eBay account, which shows that he tried to auction off a collection of vintage ''Dungeons & Dragons'' role-playing games for the PC in the summer of 2008. He also owned a copy of the first ''[[Lego Island]]'' game for PC (as seen by his possession of the Infomaniac minifigure – which was only obtainable from early copies of the said game). In the [[Fanmail Reading]] video, after a [[troll|fan]] sent him a copy of ''[[wikipedia:Half-Life 2|Half-Life 2]]'', Chris explained, "I don't play PC games. I used to, but I don't anymore." He failed to indicate why he gave them up, though. In [[Mumble 1|his first Mumble chat]], he claimed to "remember ''[[wikipedia:Touhou|Touhou]]''", but later backpedaled and said "I never really heard of that."

In his early childhood years, Chris routinely played video games on a [[Commodore 64]] computer and even remembered playing educational games such as ''Number Munchers'' and ''The Oregon Trail'' on an Apple II computer at [[Chris's education#Greene County Primary School|Greene County Primary School]] (admitting to a preference for the C64)<ref>[[Warhol Tweets#Chris larps as his younger self]]</ref>. In [[January 2026]], he would purchase and [[Commodore 64 Ultimate Review|later review]] its modern remake the Commodore 64 Ultimate.

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]] and him acquiring a decent computer, Chris has picked up PC gaming. He has a [[Steam]] profile, and has played titles ''Payday 2'' and some ''Sonic'' games.<ref>[[:File:Steam - ChrisChanSonichu - Games - 7Dec2017.png]]</ref>

==Chris, the Industry Insider==
Chris gets most of his information about the gaming industry from comparatively mainstream sources. He was an avid reader of ''Game Informer'' magazine. As for publications and/or other media sources that have since gone defunct, he was also a dedicated consumer of Sony's interactive online magazine ''Qore'', and regularly followed the G4 cable network. Chris even apparently took the {{w|Spike Video Game Awards}} (later reorganized into the ''slightly'' more reputable {{w|The Game Awards|Game Awards}}) seriously,<ref>[[Congrats, Jack Black]]</ref> which puts him about five years behind anybody with even a passing interest in the games' business.

==Chris, the Game Designer==
{{main|Sonichu (game)|Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles}}

At various times, especially during the [[Miyamoto saga]], but going as far back as the late 1990s (when he had a prophetic dream of a Sonic game for the Game Boy), Chris has imagined that he could launch himself into a career as a game designer. It is telling, however, that nearly all of his "ideas" for potential video game projects simply involve swapping Sonichu or other Chris-spawned characters into an existing game concept. ''[[Pokémon: Lightning Version]]'' is a Pokémon RPG with Sonichu in it. ''[[Sonichu Adventure]]'' is ''Sonic Adventure'' with Sonichu in it. ''[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]'' is ''Gundam: Journey to Jaburo'' with [[Megan Schroeder|Megan's]] quasi-retarded brother in it, and so on.

The closest he has gotten to coming up with something like an original idea is ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'', and it is not actually known what that game is supposed to amount to, beyond what Chris drew on the cover, and occasional haphazard mentions. It is entirely possible that the answer is unknown to Chris himself.

Nevertheless, Chris sincerely believes that his characters and game ideas are ready for commercial success. He once rejected an e-mail from the Mailbag that brought up the notion of a not-for-profit fan-made Sonichu game, and brushed off similar suggestions in his first [[IRC (16 October 2008)|IRC fan chat]]. In [[Chris dispels videogame rumors|the video about dispelling rumors of an official Sonichu game]], he scoffed at the idea of his game ideas being made with 2D graphics.

===Modding and Customization===
One of the great ironies of Chris's existence is that he loves to create and share his creations, even though he possesses almost no genuine innate creativity. He tends to gravitate strongly towards video games that allow him to create his own content and share it online.

Since console games are often not modifiable, while PC game modding tends to demand more technical skill than he possesses, Chris has only been able to show off his creativity in this field so much. That said, the PS3 games ''LittleBigPlanet'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' exerted a powerful grip on him with their customization capabilities. Chris made a ton of levels in ''LittleBigPlanet,'' dropping out of sight for the better part of a month when he first acquired the retail version of the game. Likewise, he has made levels, characters and custom cars for ''ModNation Racers'', and it resulted in a similar disappearance during the summer of 2010. His output has not shown too much actual competence, but it is not for lack of time and effort spent.

Even in games that offer only light customization features, Chris makes a point of personalizing his experience as much as possible. He spent considerable time on a ''Guitar Hero'' band, up to drawing [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg|disturbing pictures]] of his virtual bandmates. The amount of time he spent on tweaking his ''Animal Crossing'' villages is simply colossal. According to the [[Regina e-mails]], Chris made a similarly big deal about ''F-Zero GX'' and ''Jet Set Radio'', even though both games limit their customization options to things like swapping around car parts or personalizing small decals.

Likewise, as the gallery below displays, Chris enjoys customizing his game hardware. He has splattered Sonichu artwork all over his Gamecube, a Nintendo DS, a couple of Game Boy Advances, a PSP, his now-deceased original PS3, and possibly other consoles or handhelds. One of his [[Pokéwalker of Fail|Pokéwalkers]] also appears to have received the Sonichu treatment, being repainted in blue and yellow.

====Sonic World====
Chris became interested in Sonic the Hedgehog fan game and modding project [[Sonic World]] in late 2020. After joining its [[Discord]] group, he requested creators make based on Sonichu and his female obsession at the time, [[ProjectSNT]]. In December of that year, Chris found a Sonichu mod and wished to add his voice acting into it. While he did want to get into contact with the original creator and ask if he could add to the mod, Chris opted going without permission and downloaded the mod, replaced the original voice clips with his own, and reposted it. Because of the original mod's appropriation, Chris was banned from the mod-hosting website GameBanana. He was banned from the Sonic World Discord group not long after due to his passive-aggressive-yet-[[Messiah complex|megalomaniacal]] confrontation with the Sonichu mod's creator.

==Chris's Perception of Video Game Technology==
Chris obviously has no idea about how video games or video game consoles work. For example, as seen in a panel of ''Sonichu'' #10, he seems to think that games are interchangeable and can work on any console ("DO NOT BUY OR DOWNLOAD ILLEGAL COPIES OF L.B.P. ON Wii OR XBox360; IT IS PUNISHABLE BY LAW!"), even though he could easily check and see that he cannot play his copy of ''LittleBigPlanet'' on his Wii, although he is either too lazy, or is afraid of having [[14 Branchland Court|his house]] raided by [[jerkop]]s.

Neither is he aware of the technology's current capabilities. As stated in the survey of [[Chris and reality]], he once suggested that Nintendo should create a PokéBall peripheral which could display holographs, which can only be seen in science fiction, currently.

==Decline of gaming passion==
Chris's passion for gaming seems to have relatively subsided by the late 2010s. By 2020, it had been months since he touched his [[PS4]] and has not shown much interest in the new PlayStation's first and third party titles. A look at his then-recent [[Twitter|tweets]] and [[Wish list]] suggested he was busy [[Television|binging TV shows and movies]]. However, Chris continued to regularly play [[Tetris 99]] on the [[Nintendo Switch]] from 2019 up until his arrest in 2021.

On 11 September 2020, during Chris's phase of role-playing as Sonichu, Chris was asked the following question in [[Discord Q&A 6]]:
{{quoteboxgreen|Dear Christine, are you getting any of the next gen consoles? If so, what games are you excited for?}}

Chris responded:

{{quoteboxyellow|Taking you mean the new [[Playstation|PS5]] or [[Hex-Box|XBox S]] generation of consoles; Mama had not really given that much thought, and I haven’t as much either, considering we’ll be in a [[COVID-19#Stopping the pandemic|new timeline free of this pandemic and all of that.]]}}

==During the jail saga==

During Chris's time behind bars, for perhaps the first time in his life, he was deprived of any ability to access his game collection. The various letters he sent to assorted acquaintances over the course of his confinement made little mention of his electronic hoard, and the status of his collection is itself unknown – with Chris having been away from his home for the better part of two years at time of writing, and reports that items belonging to him were thrown out of the house, there is every likelihood that the games and consoles he cherished so dearly and intended to pass down to children of his own have simply been sold off, given away, or tossed in a landfill.

However, in an apparent bid to make the most of his newfound freedom after his release in March 2023, he was swift to visit a local Walmart and purchase another Nintendo Switch, according to an eyewitness account. This account was swiftly corroborated by others who posted images of Chris's online activity, images that paint an unsurprising picture; since his new acquisition, he has wasted little time catching up on games he has missed. Pokemon is front and center, as screenshots of his playtime hours and tweets he has posted suggest he has purchased at least four games within that franchise since leaving jail. This was clarified on the 26th of February 2024 when he posted photos of his entire on-console library to Twitter, confirming that since his release he has purchased ''Pokemon Legends Arceus'', ''Shining Pearl'' and ''Scarlet'' – despite insisting that he wouldn't even play the latter until his own imaginary Pokemon games are released – with the possibility of ''New Pokemon Snap'' also being a post-jail acquisition. He has also purchased several other titles that were released while he was behind bars, including but not limited to ''Metroid Dread'', ''Sonic Frontiers'', ''Superstars'' and ''Colors Ultimate'', and ''Life is Strange Remastered'' and ''True Colors''. Assuming these were bought from standard marketplaces and assuming standard Switch game prices, Chris stands to have spent anywhere from 40 to 60 dollars on each of these alone, to say nothing of acquiring an assortment of indie releases. In total, Chris has spent somewhere around $1500 on Switch games, not including the Switch itself, since his release from jail, raising the total spent to over $3500.

More curiously, his PSN profile was spotted as being active online after years of silence in August 2023, showing that he was dabbling with the demo version of Street Fighter 6 – on a PS''5'', despite Chris stating on a [[November 2023 livestreams#First JCWCSP Gaming Live Stream %E2%9A%A1%EF%B8%8F%F0%9F%92%99%E2%9A%A1%EF%B8%8F|November 2023 livestream]] that he does not yet own a PS5. Compared to his Switch usage, however, his passion for the Playstation still appears to have simmered; since his time in jail he has only half-heartedly experimented with a few Vocaloid games, before appearing to settle on using a PS4 as another way to play Minecraft. Chris uploaded a number of images in late 2023 detailing the interior of his [[Big Island House|new house in Big Island, VA]], and two of them feature a shelf containing several games for multiple consoles. From this image, it can be seen that alongside his Switch and PS4, he still owns an Xbox One and a PS3, both possibly collected from his old home. In addition, the games on the lowermost shelf appear to be for the PS Vita from their boxes, the shelf space they take up suggesting that Chris has significantly expanded the number of games he owns for it. Whether or not the PS Vita he has is the same one he acquired in 2012 is unknown.

Even so, this nevertheless shows that even after time away from his electronic stash, time in which self-reflection could have been carried out and in which he could have sworn himself to spending only in moderation, Chris is still entirely capable of flushing away hundreds on new consoles and games, still more than willing to pony up vast sums of money in support of his passions, even in the face of an extremely uncertain future. Old habits always die hard – at least, for Chris.

==Gallery==
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Image:121-CWCsGamecube.jpg|GameCube skin
Image:122-CWCsGamecubeP2.jpg
Image:204-SonichuGBA2.jpg|GBA skin
Image:205-SonichuGBASP2.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube1.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube2.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube3.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube4.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube5.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube6.jpg
Image:092-PSPSonichu.jpg|[[PSP]] skins
Image:SonichuPSPCover.jpg
Image:282-ChaoticComboPSPWall.jpg
Image:518-PaRappa-the-Rapper-Um-Jammer-Lammy-PSP-Wallpaper.jpg
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File:Mail4b.jpg|Pictures of Chris's PSN profile on the PS3
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</gallery>

==See also==
* [[List of Chris's video games]]
* [[List of Chris's PSN game downloads]]
* [[Club Nintendo]]
* [[Fandoms]]
* [[PlayStation 3]]

==References==
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==External links==
* [https://psnprofiles.com/Sonichu Chris's PlayStation Network profile]

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Chris and nostalgia

2026-02-26T18:48:16Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Chris and his childhood */

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[[Image:CWC12andson.jpg|thumb|[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|Chris and Sonichu in the Good ol' days!]].]]

{{quote|I REALLY Miss the good times of those days.|Chris reminiscing on his High School days<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts##productofpublicschool]]</ref>}}

'''Nostalgia''' is a sentimental longing or wistful affection for the past, typically for periods and/or places with happy personal associations. It is associated with a yearning for the past, its personalities, and events, particularly for the "[[Manchester High School|good old days]]" or [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|childhood events]].<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia</ref>

The foundation of much of [[Chris]]'s [[Adult Chronicles|adult life]] has been his fixation on the past, especially for [[Chris and brand loyalty|things that have had deep significance to his life]] in order to escape from the present, whether it be through [[My Little Pony|cartoons]], interacting with past [[gal pals]] and [[sweethearts]], or reminiscing past experiences with [[trolls]].

==Nostalgia in Chris's life==
Although viewed as a mental disease when it was first discovered, nostalgia, in the modern age, is seen as a natural, common, positive emotion for escaping the [[Chris and reality|confines of reality]]. Seeing how difficult it is for Chris to grasp reality as it is in its present, the way he grasps the past is unimaginably worse.

Chris's nostalgia comes from a wide variety of sources. It can be speculated that the main source of Chris's nostalgia in unhealthy amounts is his [[stress]]. At a psychological level, nostalgia is the result of negative feelings and results in the increase in of one's positive emotions.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia#Improve_mood</ref> It can also be used as a coping mechanism for dealing with whatever stressful situation one may be in.

Given how Chris currently lives his life, constantly dealing with [[weens]], and being denied [[china]] by every girl he meets, Chris will sometimes use his past experiences in a strange way to relieve his stress. For example, at the end of the [[Jessica Quinn|Jessica]] [[saga]], Chris, feeling awfully depressed from losing his girlfriend for the umpteenth time, decided to contact [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] on her [[Facebook]], and hook up with her again,<ref>https://archive.md/Mtsr7</ref> even after having been accusing her of being behind his current situation for the past four years.<ref>[[Megan Schroeder#The Blame Game]]</ref>

Other times, Chris will hold onto past experiences that gave him grief. For example, before attempting to contact Megan ever again, Chris always held onto how Megan was somehow responsible for his problems in his life for supposedly leaking information of him on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] with [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. This attachment to such events can become so strong that eventually, Chris will [[Chris and anger|snap]] from all of the added stress. For example, in [[September 2013 Facebook Posts|several 2013 September Facebook posts]], Chris continuously curses Megan along with [[Michael Snyder|other]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|fruits]] of his bad memories.

==Anemoia: nostalgia for a time before Chris was born==
As with many people, Chris also experiences nostalgia for media released before he was born. Much like a modern kid who loves 80s music and will tell you all about how Queen is the best band on the planet, Chris has a liking for ''[[I Love Lucy]]'', ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'' and other media released during [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and [[Bob Chandler|Bob]]'s time. This is common for people who spend more time around their parents than they do around their peers.

==Chris and his childhood==
When it comes to nostalgia, people tend to cherish in it in order to relive a far simpler time – while this is perfectly normal in most people, Chris's obsession with his past takes this normal aspect of the human psyche and twists it to pathological degrees. Chris revels in his childhood memories and perusing child like fantasies to fill up the stressful parts of his life, purely to ignore them.

Well before Chris had achieved infamy online, Chris wrote [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|a booklet]] as a birthday present for his childhood friend [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]]. In it, he fondly spoke of playing in her yard during their formative years but casually recollected when she locked him in her home's crawlspace (after tricking him into looking for Casper the Friendly Ghost) and doesn't mention a single moment in which she was nice to him at all. In contrast to how [[Chris and anger|he usually responds]] to being trolled (or at least slighted), he shrugged it off as kids doing silly things sometimes, likely because he preferred to selectively remember fun times he had with her.

After getting a bear hug at the 2018 [[MAGfest]] from a fan who lifted his 212+ pound body off the ground, Chris commented on the nostalgia he felt, saying, "Hey, did anyone get video or photo of @Spinalpalm hugging me and lifting me up high after the Panel? I would love to have that video to watch over and over. I never thought I could ever be lifted up high by anyone since I got too heavy for my parents."<ref>[[January 2018 tweets#Much love for MAGfest fans]]</ref>

==Manchester High==
{{main|Manchester High School}}
[[File:Chris schooldesk drawing.jpg|thumb|A happy Chris at a schooldesk, drawn 17 years after he had graduated high school.<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts]]</ref>]]

Of all of the memories Chris holds dear, he seems to be most attached to his years in Manchester High School. It isn't too hard to see why; his years there were among the last where he frequently got out of his house and interacted in a social environment. This is best shown with the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video, the Lego replica, and him wearing the jacket (as shown with the [[26 December 2014]] incident). He also purchased a schooldesk, which he uses as a workstation, allowing him to further transition back to his happiest years. For many years, he fixated on the idea of a high school reunion, but his numerous attempts at trying to hold one failed. Likely for the best, as the MHS of real life can't possibly compare with the one in his mind.

Like many people who overindulge in nostalgia, Chris has a rather warped view of his time at Manchester High in retrospect. He often looks back on it as a time when he was surrounded by friends and could have easily obtained the true love he seeks to this day, if only he had known how good he had it. In reality, his more down-to-earth recollections of high school paint a picture of Chris being bullied, fairly isolated and disengaged, with even his friends only really sticking around because the educational setting required them to.







==References==
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Chris and socialization

2026-02-26T18:32:01Z

FurryChristorian789: /* In real life */

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[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|Chris, surrounded by family and friends.]]

Chris is somewhat capable of '''socializing''', despite what one may assume, given aspects like his social awkwardness and the epic failure of his [[Love Quest]]. Being a nerd and, as of [[2014]], a [[Tomgirl|member of the LGBT community]], Chris has common interests and values with his friends. Awkwardness arises when Chris attempts to take part in conversations which exceed his limited interests, as his broken social filter and lack of common social etiquette due to his [[autism]] can lead to him saying [[Honest Content|inappropriate things]] or attempting to steer the topic to cartoons, video games, [[Messiah complex|godhood]], or the [[SLGBTQ]].

==In real life==
The earliest known example of Chris socializing with someone other than [[Borb]] were his interactions with [[Sarah Hammer]], who moved in next door to the Chandlers when he was approximately three years old. Chris fondly remembers using her swing set, playing hide and seek among other things <ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood]]</ref> <ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>, but he, far from a sound judge of character even in his younger days, seemed oblivious to Sarah's less than good intentions. At least twice, she could have caused him harm of her own volition, locking him in a crawlspace and convincing him the berries of a honeysuckle (which can cause [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|stomach problems]]) tasted like honey. [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|He nonchalantly documented both incidents]], in stark contrast to [[Kick the Autistic|what he thinks of perceived wrongdoers]], although he eventually acknowledged that she was "the first one to troll and bully" him long before anyone on the Internet had.<ref>[[December 2025 social media posts#Friendship]]</ref>

He stated his formative years also included interactions with "other neighborhood children"<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>. Chris himself noted [[Gal-pals|they were mainly girls]], though he also befriended [[Joshua Martinez]] (who'd eventually troll him) when attending speech therapy.

More notably, [[Manchester High|in his high school years]], he attended classes and ate lunch with a female circle of friends (because he found the [[JERKS|males]], except for his older friend [[Joseph Herring]], to be immature). However, the only time they were ever known to have spent time with each other outside Manchester High was for [[My big 18th party|his 18th birthday party]], and even then, no photos of the occasion show him and even one of the girls near each other. Chris found out about 15 years later that they were never legitimate friends; their attention was [[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals|arranged]] by [[Bob]] and the principal in a misguided attempt to socialize Chris.

After high school, and in particular after he was suspended from [[college]], Chris used whatever free time he wasn't using at home to attempt socializing in the wild, whether it be for attempting to score [[sweetheart]]s or otherwise. His most notable social endeavors occurred at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where he met [[Megan Schroeder]]. The two formed a strong friendship, but Chris failed to pick up how she merely wanted to be just friends with him, even when she outright told him so numerous times. To cut a long story short, [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|things went]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|very rocky]], and by 2008 Megan had severed ties with him; Chris was also banned from the aforementioned GAMe PLACe, due to acting too hostile to other patrons and card game players.

His other notable social endeavors occurred at the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], which he'd haunt regularly. When he wasn't shopping at its stores or going on [[Date with Emily|ill-fated dates]], Chris spent a lot of his time [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer|pacing around]] in the hopes that he would eventually meet a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. Due to his antics, Chris received many run-ins with [[jerkops]] and temporary (eventually permanent) bans from the outlet.

In [[2014]], Chris began attending [[Cville Pride]] and the [[Impulse Gay Social Club]], both of which would gradually become frequent hangout spots for him. These would serve as stepping stones for Chris to further grow out of his shell, and he later began regularly attending other places of that ilk, including LGBT events at [[University of Virginia]]. The next year would see him attending [[The End Games]] (a card game store) before being banned in 2018. There, he met a few adult [[Pokémon League friends]] who hung out with him outside of the club.

[[File:Cwc cville pride 2017.jpg|thumb||200px|left|At Cville Pride.]]

Sadly, though, Chris regressed back into staying at home thanks to what the [[Idea Guys]] did to him, giving up real life socializing in favor of his [[imaginary friends]] and internet [[enablers]]. He would nevertheless continue going to certain places such as [[conventions]] until [[Jail Saga|late 2021]].
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==Over the Internet==
The Internet has been one of Chris's primary tools for socializing. Chris has regularly used social media websites, dating websites, and some forums as tools to talk with others and hopefully make either some new friends and/or sweethearts.

In 2017, he made attempts to socialize on Twitter with women he saw as potential [[gal-pals]], including voice actresses from some of his favorite shows. His tweets seem to illustrate how he tries to fit into conversations - namely, that he likes to shoehorn in references to cartoons.<ref>[[2017 tweets]]</ref> These attempts, as time went on, [[TF2 Analysis|didn't go over too well]].

===Planet Dolan===

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[[File:Doopiedrawing.jpg|thumb|Chris commissioned this from Doopie.]]

Doopie is a voice actress/animator for the YouTube channel [[Planet Dolan]]. Chris discovered the channel in August 2016 and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His social awkwardness in full display, he tweeted to her on the subjects of poop,<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref> his hatred of online dating,<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref> and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt.<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>

In June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon. A Like on her post, which is hidden behind a paywall, implies that Chris is pledging $25 per month to her.<ref>https://archive.md/52tZh</ref> He has also paid her $25 for a commission to serve as a profile picture. Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for $50, ostensibly to help him and his mother.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>

Doopie is fully aware of Chris’s online reputation, and sees him as just another customer, as she explained:

{{quoteboxyellow|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.

(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}

On 25 August 2017, Chris tweeted to [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a close friend of Doopie, on Twitter. He consequently got destroyed by her in an ensuing tweet war.

==Conventions==
{{Main|List of conventions attended by Chris}}

Chris has attended many conventions over the years, initially only having been to two in the early to mid-2000s, but later expanding to many in the 2010s. For him, he's generally had a great time attending them; it's a rare chance for him to get out of his house and surround himself with like-minded people, therefore making it easier to Chris to socialize with others. He's stated he's felt more accepted at conventions, though it's debatable whether this interpretation of his is true or not.

==Looking forward==
In [[August 2021]], Chris was arrested after it was revealed he had engaged in [[Affair With Mother|incestuous acts]] with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Chris eventually received an [[autism disorder deferred disposition]] after a lengthy court process (that included a stint in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], a stay at a [[Western State Hospital|psychiatric hospital]], and a [[Gateway Homes|group home]] transfer). Due to the deferred disposition program, Chris was released from jail in [[March 2023]] and his case was dismissed in [[August 2023]]. Chris gradually returned to social media where he resumed his usual antics.

A mysterious woman nicknamed [[Flutter]] by Chris has been routinely spotted hanging out with him in public following the dismissal of his charge; she had reached out to Chris while he was in jail, and her role or purpose in interacting with him is unknown.

Chris apparently still maintains contact with his mother, although now living separately from her. According to a comment in April 2024 by Gamer from Mars, Chris said he meets with her about once a month.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Conspiracy#Interview comments]]</ref> While Chris didn't socialize much with his extended family prior to the incest, he may have a more difficult time with it now, given that his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] banned him from their home upon initially learning of the incest.

Even after his release, the affair still comes back to haunt him. Chris attempted to resume going to [[conventions]] as he had before the incest charge, but quickly found himself [[ban]]ned from three - [[Animate! Raleigh]], [[BABSCon]] (the con literally declaring him persona non grata) and [[HarmonyCon]], in which he claimed to be undergoing a [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]]. He was, however, lucky enough to spend one whole day at the [[List of conventions#Festival of Light|Festival of Light]] in [[May 2025]] without incident.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and kindness]]
*[[COVID-19]]

{{References}}

{{Chris and}}
{{People}}

Megan Schroeder

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{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroeder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = {{•}} Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. {{•}} Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested {{•}} Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. {{•}} Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|arbitarch|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris and socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life. Megan was one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[Fiona|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage| fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2005]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|300px|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]
[[File:Cchanmegan.jpg|thumb|...and again]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris and sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and asking Chris to purchase things from [[eBay]] for her.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both adults who passed their time playing [[card games]] mostly marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Megan wants a Tintin tape|Megan emails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Chris wants to date Megan at McDonald's|Megan emails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and began his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

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==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie e-mails Part 2#Chris lies about The Game Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

In a call between Bob and [[ThePCAssassins]] Bob tells the caller that Megan is a [[Bob Call 6|"little low life in the gutter bitch."]]

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==CPU Red Heart==
{{Quote|But anyway, Megan, your counterpart in C197, ever since her pow- er, sailor senshi powers, Sailor Megtune, have been stripped after the unfortunate break-up events of 06 or 07, or it may have been 08, that actually happened between you and I, not going to go into further detail.}}

In the video [[Dimensional Merge Announcements]], where Chris announces the Dimensional Merge, Chris mentions that Megan herself has become a CPU Goddess in the form of Sailor Megtune, aka '''CPU Red Heart'''. Chris also mentions how his prior grudge towards her has also dissipated, and encourages fans to not harass her.

Chris then told [[The Captain]] to text Megan, and then the following post on Kiwi Farms. According to him, Megan was genuinely touched by Chris declaring her as a CPU Goddess, and feels sorry for him, but also decided not to meet with him under any circumstances.

{{quoteboxkiwi|This video legitimately makes me sad.

He's very muted here.. totally not like him at all.

He did text me asking me to send it to Megan so I did.. I'm waiting for her response.

Edit: She's genuinely touched and really liked whoever is posting as Donald Trump. She feels bad for Chris but will not be meeting up with him under any circumstances.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Captain texts Megan]]</ref>}}

==Other Mentions==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 [[January 2016]], in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claimed that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Complimenting Megan Schroeder]]</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]] (during the timeframe when [[2018 Twitter account compromise|Chris's Twitter account was being compromised]]) Chris's Twitter account declared that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, the Twitter account backtracked on the claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref> Due to the account compromise, it is unclear whether the messages had been sent by Chris.

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] Discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], described having viewed the ''Chris Chan Vs. The Internet'' trailer and then had an emotional breakdown over his perceived issues with Megan.<ref>[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]</ref>
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further described his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claimed that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.

On 5 [[November 2020]], in another chat in The Place, Chris described the coverage of Megan in the Chris Chan Youtube series ''[[Beneath the Bridge]]'' as a "real mixed bag", admitting that he had been cringing and crying throughout most of it.<ref>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>
{{quotebox|The multi-part vids about Megan were a real mixed bag; more than half of the time, it hit the nerves in the core of this body, some cringe, a bunch of crying, and so on.}}

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

On 25 [[March 2021]], in a yet another chat in The Place, Chris, while role-playing as a psychic detective of a future murder, brought up Megan. Having narrowed down the supposed victims to one of two, Chris claimed that Megan will need extra defense. [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] quickly discouraged Chris from considering this further, reminding him that Megan has a gun and knows how to defend herself.<ref>[[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]]</ref>
{{quotebox|I’m not finalized which of the two, but the victim is either in California or Virginia.
And, Megan Schroeder, in Virginia, here, is one who will (also) need some extra defense on her part during this present time as well.}}

In the 17 [[October 2023]] video [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], Chris singled out Megan during a segment in which he complained about people blocking him, saying that she and others had their chance to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|actually be kind and compassionate towards him]].

In the 19 [[May 2025]] video [[Grounded Deep Response]], while attempting to do an [[introspection]] on his public image, Chris brought up Megan while describing the effects of toxic people and trolls in his life. In a slip of the tongue, he started to describe his association with her as a "relationship", before adjusting himself to "friendship."

On 19 [[February 2026]], in his social media post about admitting to various wrongdoings, he gives Megan Schroeder a passing mention in reference to "bodily impulse and typical sex wants" during his [[Love Quest]], also describing his infamous nonconsensual cartoon smut drawing as having "sinned hard".<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be affecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
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Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
Image:0942-DogFromMegan.JPG
</gallery></center>

==References==
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Bob Chandler

2026-02-20T17:04:15Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Incomplete|[[ThePCAssassins]]}}
{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref>}}

{{quote|All around the world, everyone prays to their own God, but they are all praying to the same God.|Bob's alleged last words.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#Chris is the Avatar, Bob's last words]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, insulting Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
|imagesize = 250
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[Cole Smithey#Relationship with Barbara and Bob|Republican cur]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
|label3 = Date of Birth
|day = 4
|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
|deathmonth = 9
|deathyear = 2011
|gender = {{gender|gender=male}}
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|label8 = Height
|ft = 5
|in = 7.5
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980, divorce) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011, his death)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Hollomon (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
|saga = {{saga|childhood|cn}}, {{saga|greene|cn}}, {{saga|bearstein|cn}}, {{saga|julie|cn}}, {{saga|emily|cn}}, {{saga|ivy|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
}}

'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack," came from this incident, wherein he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for alleged abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that both he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child despite the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard, hoping they'd create things there (though sadly, nothing of note was ever created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from his concern for Chris's foolish behavior and from his occasional attempts to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's life, noting that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb, he at least made the effort, even if his attempts were futile or harmful at worst. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed, much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks. Whether in person or over the phone, Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone. According to Chris, he was also a strong negotiator.<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who then had to become the man of the house. Chris occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later, in 2021, Chris would disgrace Bob's memory by repeatedly having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized before eventually returning to the residence, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned for good.

==Biography==
Bob was born on 4:15 PM at a medical arts building in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}},<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Date with Emily#Bob's work history (0:07:18–0:16:58)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Hollomon (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

[[File:Robert Sr 1942.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|Bob in army uniform, 1946]]

[[File:Bob_Chandler_1945.png|thumb|right|200px|Bob Chandler (left) as a Boy Scout in 1945.]]

Bob has said that he was, "...interested in the world," around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]; his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School in {{w|Fort Monmouth}}, New Jersey, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Bob recounted a reckless decision he made during his time in the Army after returning from Korea for the Christmas holiday in 1947. He hitchhiked to New York City, where he stayed for two weeks before running out of money, and then had to figure out how to get back to Fort Monmouth.. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref>

Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and played French horn for the band and orchestra there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref name = "Meet">[[Date with Emily#Meet the Parent (0:05:20–0:07:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, was a member of {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

A 1946 military record included Bob's occupation while he was a student as "tinsmith, coppersmith, and sheet metal worker".

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for four years, where he designed a variety of electrical subsystems, including relays, telephones and valve systems. Initially, he was working with the radar systems in test-planning automatic test equipment. With Western Electric, Bob and his co-worker filed a patent for electrical terminal block in 1955, which was published in 1959.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US2884613A/en</ref> During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings lived for the rest of their lives.

He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an email to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "...might not have arrived so soon,"<ref name="Barbara" /> despite the international field of electronics having so many contributors that Bob likely had zero significant influence.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#A Word from Snorlax]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60 after 31 years of service for General Electric.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his, "...natural inclination for logic," although he was, "...inundated," by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> but he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky. He apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of {{w|Moldova}}, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref name = "Retired Life">[[Date with Emily#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 29 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1961) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1964).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Because of this, Chris did not know he had a niece via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]], until she was 8 years old,<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref> and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more distant. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and the last they had heard was that she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]].]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claimed that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway," though Barb has disputed this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This version of events may be why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them, "...acting out as a couple of drunken losers."<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she ultimately married Bob because, "...he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barb and Bob did not have sex for at least two decades before Bob's passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref> Chris also recalled Bob and Barb would routinely argue with each other, in which he felt the need to play "peacemaker" and the constant shouting matches caused him [[Stress|stress]] which he struggled to [[Chris and coping|cope with]].<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness ruined the relationship between himself and his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "...when that fuck Bob finally drops,"<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. At the least, Bob certainly knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name = "Meet" />

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

Bob's relationship with Chris was rather complex. While Bob was considered to be a better parent than his wife [[Barb]], he was by no means the good ol' pop-pop Chandler many thought he was. While Bob at least tried to help Chris, his attempts at doing so were either futile, misguided or even harmful to Chris in the long term.

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio." Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris were more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography, such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but figured (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and can only associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob had difficulties understanding Chris's [[Autism]] and vehemently refused to get Chris the help he needed, likely out of fear-driven inertia that is typical for people of his age and generation. In fact, he fought tooth and nail for years to keep Chris from getting the special education he needed to cope with the real world. It was the very reason why Bob rented a second home in Chesterfield County, so Chris couldn't attend special classes that Greene County recommended. Bob was most likely under the impression that Chris would be thrown into a lunatic asylum, lobotomized and that Chris needs to be sheltered all his life because of it, never mind his autistic [[Savannah|granddaughter]], who lives a relatively normal life.

When Chris entered [[Manchester High]], Bob arranged for [[Gal pal|a bunch of girls]] to be friends with Chris. He gave Chris money to hand it to at least one gal pal, claiming it was for her Friendship and Attention.

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections to others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. Bob's pieces were decently priced, generally for $5 per set, though he tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked by barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements [sic], annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy.' Bob also engaged in friendly and interesting conversation with [[ThePCAssassins]] many times through [[2010]] and [[2011]], further disproving Chris's belief. The antagonism to which Chris refers was likely Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason as to why he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love," "support," "gratitude," and "willingness to help." Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional [[Mumble 1|frustration]] over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appeared that Bob was the source of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank calls#Snake Productions Calls Bob Chandler]]</ref>

After Chris got his [[CADD]] degree, instead of telling Chris to get to work as any other parent would, he encouraged Chris to stay home just so he could continue to get his taxpayer-funded [[tugboat]].

He never seemed to get past the notion that Chris could and had already achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's emails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a "fag", even though he indirectly contributed to it through his unbalanced approach of socializing Chris.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since his passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on in his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often sees Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris later expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

In the [[Incest Call]], Chris claimed he was better at [[Affair with Mother|pleasuring]] [[Barb]] than his own father. One can only imagine Bob's reaction to this news if he were still alive to bear witness to what his son has become.

Despite his best efforts to the contrary, Chris, his second chance at being a father, was Bob's greatest failure as a parent, even when factoring in his strained relationship with his other children.

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>[[Date with Emily#Eating spaghetti and conversing (0:36:49–0:44:46)]]</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia,<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref> and Czechoslovakian friends in late 1970s, who were illegal immigrants escaping Czechoslovakia. Chris said Bob and Barb enjoyed conversing and drinking {{w|Slivovitz}} with them and that Bob would drive to Maryland to buy Slivovitz.<ref>[[Regina_e-mails#Random-access_humor_demonstration]]</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had, "...a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]],"<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
{{See also|Death of Bob Chandler}}
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on Social Security as well as his General Electric pension.<ref name = "Retired Life" /> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to 'swing with the music' on his swing there.<ref name="Retired Life" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Date with Emily#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob, "...has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [sic] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and [[White-Knighting|white knights]] alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

In [[Sonichu 9#Episode 19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's [[Oedipus complex]], Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later, "...told me he accepts and love ''[sic]'' me for who I am," shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guy]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer [[Ted Bundy]].

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
*[[Christmas|25 December]] [[2004]]: Bob makes multiple physical appearences in [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004]], where he appears remarkably depressed.
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]] in the [[kitchen]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church Visit|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee (written in 1945).
File:Bob1946WW2DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png|Bob's 1946 Draft card on a physical detail (written in 1945).
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
File:RobertChandler1960s.png|Bob in the late 1960s/early 1970s
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
File:0012-BobbyReading.jpg
File:0033-MommasBirthday.jpg
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
File:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg
File:0090-Christmas95-5.jpg
File:0091-Christmas95-6.jpg
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
File:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg
File:0473-CWC18th4.jpg
File:0114-MomsBirthday97-2.jpg
File:0115-MomsBirthday97-3.jpg
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob&BarbMay2000.png|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
File:0472-CWC18th3.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg
File:2002 BrickFest7.jpg|Bob with Chris at [[BrickFest]] [[2001]].
File:2002 BrickFest10.jpg
File:0612-DaddyIs75.jpg|75th birthday.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==References==
{{Fan Art|chris=Bob Chandler}}
<references />

==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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Bob Chandler

2026-02-20T17:03:51Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Barbara */

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{{Needs Updating|[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]}}
{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref>}}

{{quote|All around the world, everyone prays to their own God, but they are all praying to the same God.|Bob's alleged last words.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#Chris is the Avatar, Bob's last words]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, insulting Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
|imagesize = 250
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[Cole Smithey#Relationship with Barbara and Bob|Republican cur]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
|label3 = Date of Birth
|day = 4
|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
|deathmonth = 9
|deathyear = 2011
|gender = {{gender|gender=male}}
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|label8 = Height
|ft = 5
|in = 7.5
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980, divorce) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011, his death)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Hollomon (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
|saga = {{saga|childhood|cn}}, {{saga|greene|cn}}, {{saga|bearstein|cn}}, {{saga|julie|cn}}, {{saga|emily|cn}}, {{saga|ivy|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
}}

'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack," came from this incident, wherein he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for alleged abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that both he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child despite the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard, hoping they'd create things there (though sadly, nothing of note was ever created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from his concern for Chris's foolish behavior and from his occasional attempts to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's life, noting that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb, he at least made the effort, even if his attempts were futile or harmful at worst. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed, much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks. Whether in person or over the phone, Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone. According to Chris, he was also a strong negotiator.<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who then had to become the man of the house. Chris occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later, in 2021, Chris would disgrace Bob's memory by repeatedly having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized before eventually returning to the residence, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned for good.

==Biography==
Bob was born on 4:15 PM at a medical arts building in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}},<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Date with Emily#Bob's work history (0:07:18–0:16:58)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Hollomon (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

[[File:Robert Sr 1942.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|Bob in army uniform, 1946]]

[[File:Bob_Chandler_1945.png|thumb|right|200px|Bob Chandler (left) as a Boy Scout in 1945.]]

Bob has said that he was, "...interested in the world," around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]; his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School in {{w|Fort Monmouth}}, New Jersey, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Bob recounted a reckless decision he made during his time in the Army after returning from Korea for the Christmas holiday in 1947. He hitchhiked to New York City, where he stayed for two weeks before running out of money, and then had to figure out how to get back to Fort Monmouth.. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref>

Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and played French horn for the band and orchestra there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref name = "Meet">[[Date with Emily#Meet the Parent (0:05:20–0:07:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, was a member of {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

A 1946 military record included Bob's occupation while he was a student as "tinsmith, coppersmith, and sheet metal worker".

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for four years, where he designed a variety of electrical subsystems, including relays, telephones and valve systems. Initially, he was working with the radar systems in test-planning automatic test equipment. With Western Electric, Bob and his co-worker filed a patent for electrical terminal block in 1955, which was published in 1959.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US2884613A/en</ref> During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings lived for the rest of their lives.

He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an email to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "...might not have arrived so soon,"<ref name="Barbara" /> despite the international field of electronics having so many contributors that Bob likely had zero significant influence.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#A Word from Snorlax]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60 after 31 years of service for General Electric.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his, "...natural inclination for logic," although he was, "...inundated," by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> but he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky. He apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of {{w|Moldova}}, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref name = "Retired Life">[[Date with Emily#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 29 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1961) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1964).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Because of this, Chris did not know he had a niece via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]], until she was 8 years old,<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref> and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more distant. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and the last they had heard was that she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]].]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claimed that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway," though Barb has disputed this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This version of events may be why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them, "...acting out as a couple of drunken losers."<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she ultimately married Bob because, "...he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barb and Bob did not have sex for at least two decades before Bob's passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref> Chris also recalled Bob and Barb would routinely argue with each other, in which he felt the need to play "peacemaker" and the constant shouting matches caused him [[Stress|stress]] which he struggled to [[Chris and coping|cope with]].<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness ruined the relationship between himself and his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "...when that fuck Bob finally drops,"<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. At the least, Bob certainly knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name = "Meet" />

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

Bob's relationship with Chris was rather complex. While Bob was considered to be a better parent than his wife [[Barb]], he was by no means the good ol' pop-pop Chandler many thought he was. While Bob at least tried to help Chris, his attempts at doing so were either futile, misguided or even harmful to Chris in the long term.

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio." Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris were more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography, such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but figured (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and can only associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob had difficulties understanding Chris's [[Autism]] and vehemently refused to get Chris the help he needed, likely out of fear-driven inertia that is typical for people of his age and generation. In fact, he fought tooth and nail for years to keep Chris from getting the special education he needed to cope with the real world. It was the very reason why Bob rented a second home in Chesterfield County, so Chris couldn't attend special classes that Greene County recommended. Bob was most likely under the impression that Chris would be thrown into a lunatic asylum, lobotomized and that Chris needs to be sheltered all his life because of it, never mind his autistic [[Savannah|granddaughter]], who lives a relatively normal life.

When Chris entered [[Manchester High]], Bob arranged for [[Gal pal|a bunch of girls]] to be friends with Chris. He gave Chris money to hand it to at least one gal pal, claiming it was for her Friendship and Attention.

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections to others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. Bob's pieces were decently priced, generally for $5 per set, though he tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked by barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements [sic], annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy.' Bob also engaged in friendly and interesting conversation with [[ThePCAssassins]] many times through [[2010]] and [[2011]], further disproving Chris's belief. The antagonism to which Chris refers was likely Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason as to why he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love," "support," "gratitude," and "willingness to help." Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional [[Mumble 1|frustration]] over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appeared that Bob was the source of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank calls#Snake Productions Calls Bob Chandler]]</ref>

After Chris got his [[CADD]] degree, instead of telling Chris to get to work as any other parent would, he encouraged Chris to stay home just so he could continue to get his taxpayer-funded [[tugboat]].

He never seemed to get past the notion that Chris could and had already achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's emails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a "fag", even though he indirectly contributed to it through his unbalanced approach of socializing Chris.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since his passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on in his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often sees Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris later expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

In the [[Incest Call]], Chris claimed he was better at [[Affair with Mother|pleasuring]] [[Barb]] than his own father. One can only imagine Bob's reaction to this news if he were still alive to bear witness to what his son has become.

Despite his best efforts to the contrary, Chris, his second chance at being a father, was Bob's greatest failure as a parent, even when factoring in his strained relationship with his other children.

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>[[Date with Emily#Eating spaghetti and conversing (0:36:49–0:44:46)]]</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia,<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref> and Czechoslovakian friends in late 1970s, who were illegal immigrants escaping Czechoslovakia. Chris said Bob and Barb enjoyed conversing and drinking {{w|Slivovitz}} with them and that Bob would drive to Maryland to buy Slivovitz.<ref>[[Regina_e-mails#Random-access_humor_demonstration]]</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had, "...a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]],"<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
{{See also|Death of Bob Chandler}}
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on Social Security as well as his General Electric pension.<ref name = "Retired Life" /> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to 'swing with the music' on his swing there.<ref name="Retired Life" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Date with Emily#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob, "...has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [sic] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and [[White-Knighting|white knights]] alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

In [[Sonichu 9#Episode 19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's [[Oedipus complex]], Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later, "...told me he accepts and love ''[sic]'' me for who I am," shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guy]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer [[Ted Bundy]].

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
*[[Christmas|25 December]] [[2004]]: Bob makes multiple physical appearences in [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004]], where he appears remarkably depressed.
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]] in the [[kitchen]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church Visit|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee (written in 1945).
File:Bob1946WW2DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png|Bob's 1946 Draft card on a physical detail (written in 1945).
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
File:RobertChandler1960s.png|Bob in the late 1960s/early 1970s
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
File:0012-BobbyReading.jpg
File:0033-MommasBirthday.jpg
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
File:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg
File:0090-Christmas95-5.jpg
File:0091-Christmas95-6.jpg
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
File:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg
File:0473-CWC18th4.jpg
File:0114-MomsBirthday97-2.jpg
File:0115-MomsBirthday97-3.jpg
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob&BarbMay2000.png|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
File:0472-CWC18th3.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg
File:2002 BrickFest7.jpg|Bob with Chris at [[BrickFest]] [[2001]].
File:2002 BrickFest10.jpg
File:0612-DaddyIs75.jpg|75th birthday.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==References==
{{Fan Art|chris=Bob Chandler}}
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==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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Megan Schroeder

2026-02-20T17:00:05Z

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{{Needs Updating|[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]}}
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{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroeder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = {{•}} Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. {{•}} Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested {{•}} Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. {{•}} Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|arbitarch|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris and socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life. Megan was one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[Fiona|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage| fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2005]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|300px|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]
[[File:Cchanmegan.jpg|thumb|...and again]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris and sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and asking Chris to purchase things from [[eBay]] for her.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both adults who passed their time playing [[card games]] mostly marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Megan wants a Tintin tape|Megan emails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Chris wants to date Megan at McDonald's|Megan emails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and began his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

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==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie e-mails Part 2#Chris lies about The Game Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

In a call between Bob and [[ThePCAssassins]] Bob tells the caller that Megan is a [[Bob Call 6|"little low life in the gutter bitch."]]

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==CPU Red Heart==
{{Quote|But anyway, Megan, your counterpart in C197, ever since her pow- er, sailor senshi powers, Sailor Megtune, have been stripped after the unfortunate break-up events of 06 or 07, or it may have been 08, that actually happened between you and I, not going to go into further detail.}}

In the video [[Dimensional Merge Announcements]], where Chris announces the Dimensional Merge, Chris mentions that Megan herself has become a CPU Goddess in the form of Sailor Megtune, aka '''CPU Red Heart'''. Chris also mentions how his prior grudge towards her has also dissipated, and encourages fans to not harass her.

Chris then told [[The Captain]] to text Megan, and then the following post on Kiwi Farms. According to him, Megan was genuinely touched by Chris declaring her as a CPU Goddess, and feels sorry for him, but also decided not to meet with him under any circumstances.

{{quoteboxkiwi|This video legitimately makes me sad.

He's very muted here.. totally not like him at all.

He did text me asking me to send it to Megan so I did.. I'm waiting for her response.

Edit: She's genuinely touched and really liked whoever is posting as Donald Trump. She feels bad for Chris but will not be meeting up with him under any circumstances.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Captain texts Megan]]</ref>}}

==Other Mentions==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 [[January 2016]], in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claimed that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Complimenting Megan Schroeder]]</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]] (during the timeframe when [[2018 Twitter account compromise|Chris's Twitter account was being compromised]]) Chris's Twitter account declared that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, the Twitter account backtracked on the claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref> Due to the account compromise, it is unclear whether the messages had been sent by Chris.

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] Discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], described having viewed the ''Chris Chan Vs. The Internet'' trailer and then had an emotional breakdown over his perceived issues with Megan.<ref>[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]</ref>
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further described his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claimed that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.

On 5 [[November 2020]], in another chat in The Place, Chris described the coverage of Megan in the Chris Chan Youtube series ''[[Beneath the Bridge]]'' as a "real mixed bag", admitting that he had been cringing and crying throughout most of it.<ref>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>
{{quotebox|The multi-part vids about Megan were a real mixed bag; more than half of the time, it hit the nerves in the core of this body, some cringe, a bunch of crying, and so on.}}

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

On 25 [[March 2021]], in a yet another chat in The Place, Chris, while role-playing as a psychic detective of a future murder, brought up Megan. Having narrowed down the supposed victims to one of two, Chris claimed that Megan will need extra defense. [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] quickly discouraged Chris from considering this further, reminding him that Megan has a gun and knows how to defend herself.<ref>[[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]]</ref>
{{quotebox|I’m not finalized which of the two, but the victim is either in California or Virginia.
And, Megan Schroeder, in Virginia, here, is one who will (also) need some extra defense on her part during this present time as well.}}

In the 17 [[October 2023]] video [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], Chris singled out Megan during a segment in which he complained about people blocking him, saying that she and others had their chance to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|actually be kind and compassionate towards him]].

In the 19 [[May 2025]] video [[Grounded Deep Response]], while attempting to do an [[introspection]] on his public image, Chris brought up Megan while describing the effects of toxic people and trolls in his life. In a slip of the tongue, he started to describe his association with her as a "relationship", before adjusting himself to "friendship."

On 19 [[February 2026]], in his social media post about admitting to various wrongdoings, he gives Megan Schroeder a passing mention in reference to "bodily impulse and typical sex wants" during his [[Love Quest]], also describing his infamous nonconsensual cartoon smut drawing as having "sinned hard".<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be affecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
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Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
Image:0942-DogFromMegan.JPG
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==References==
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Chris and race

2026-02-20T01:30:45Z

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{{Honest}}

{{quote|I never really had anything against, uh, race or people, I never really did... I have nothing against black people or anyone else of other countries.|[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] while talking to [[BraveryJerk Interviews|BraveryJerk]] in [[2016]], in spite of previous questionable depictions of race in his comics and videos.}}

[[Image: Niggocwc.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris in [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV]], [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] into putting on blackface.]]

The '''race''' of people is often considered a sensitive topic, a poor match for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], with his [[Autism|lack of social tact and tendency to take pop culture stereotypes literally]]. While Chris doesn't seem to hold deeply bigoted views or have irrational hatred toward people that aren't white (or at least not on the same level as his views on [[homos|homosexuals]], [[Asperger syndrome|people with Asperger's Syndrome]], and [[MALE|MALES]]) he has been remarkably tone-deaf when talking about, or portraying, minorities in his comics and videos. The [[Miscreants]] group of trolls used race as ammo to mock and [[Chris and manipulation|manipulate]] Chris.

==Chris and stereotypes==
Chris's views of other cultures can also be traced to the television he watches, such as the typical [[Adult Swim]] cartoon which includes gratuitous use of stereotype-based humor.

===Black people===
[[File:Nodarkies.JPG|thumb|Chris approved of this pic, and said he liked it.<ref>[[:File:Chrisreply1evan.png]]</ref>]]

Chris has been widely considered to be racist against black people since it was learned that his highly specific criteria for a [[sweetheart]] include whiteness and specifically excludes blackness.<ref>[[Attraction Sign]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009|"Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009"]]</ref><ref>In [[IRC (17 December 2008)]], he was asked to describe all the races he would date and he answered, "all but black."</ref> Chris tells this not only to trolls, but to black [[boyfriend-free girls]] in real life, that they do not "meet his standard criteria for a female companion" to their faces.<ref>[[Autism papers|Chris's Psychiatric Examination]]</ref>

His stated reason for not being interested in black women is that his dream-prophecy of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] shows her to be white, which means her mother must be white as well.

Trolls quickly coined the phrase "No darkies" as a quick summary of Chris's criteria for a Boyfriend free girl, much to his chagrin<ref>[[Sonichu Fan Promo]]</ref> – even though he previously approved of a notable piece of fan art with the phrase included prominently. This is essentially accurate; for example, on Chris's profile at [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]] he says that "[[Tobacky|smokers]], [[obesity|overweights]], blacks, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|liars]] need not apply."

On the less-discriminatory side, Chris also has stated that he doesn't hate men who have black girlfriends, and doesn't consider them [[JERKS]], so Chris may think it'll increase his chances of finding a white boyfriend-free girl.

Some teenaged black kids frequented [[The GAMe PLACe]]. Chris picked on them and acted like they wanted to steal from him, hiding his stuff when they were nearby.<ref name="Mimms">[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> The official reason Chris got banned permanently from The GAMe PLACe was getting into a shouting match with one of these children.

Chris also once argued with a huge black guy named TJ while playing [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|Yu-Gi-Oh]]. When they started talking about how Chris would [[Virgin with Rage|never get laid]], Chris yelled, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" As TJ stood up like he was going to [[Kick the Autistic|beat Chris's ass]], Chris shrunk and whimpered "I mean your face down monster...."<ref name="Mimms"/>

He does an impression of the stereotypical black accent, which he apparently confuses with the Jamaican accent, in [[Mumble 4]].

When Chris talked on the phone to [[Jackie]]'s boyfriend [[Lars]], he tried to bridge the gap between their different races by speaking in Ebonics, including referring to himself as a "nigga" and making statements like, "I enjoy the TV shows I get from the, from the black man, including [[Wikipedia:The Jeffersons|''The Jeffersons'']], and [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], and [[Wikipedia:Sanford and Son|''Sanford and Son'']], all a' them."<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref>

On 27 [[June 2012]], Chris posted in [[Facebook]] a photo of a black woman at [[McDonald's]] who he said discriminated against him, and demanded people not go there, and if they do to "throw newspaper in the damn old bitchy, black woman's face!!!"<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>

In 2014, when Chris was infatuated with [[Catherine]], he had a romantic rival by the name of [[Colin]]; he sent a message describing the light shining off of Colin's head in a photo as "poo light."<ref>[[Colin Chat 1]]</ref>

In 2016, Chris was asked by [[BraveryJerk]] what his opinion on the Black Lives Matter movement was. Chris seemingly had never heard of the movement, saying "Uhhh, Black Li – I have not heard of that. Well…Black Lives Matter. It sounds like it’s…uh…maybe people, black people are, sounds like they’re having trouble? But I feel…that, you know, to help any person in general, regardless of race or whatever. I mean, I’m for…the,uh…Black Lives forever."<ref>https://youtu.be/LTtBLPH350w?t=547</ref>

===Asians===
{{see also|Japanophilia}}

In the [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], Chris portrays [[Punchy Sonichu]] as a [[CWC Fighter|kung fu]] master with [[Wikipedia:Epicanthic fold|slanty eyes]], raised in a dojo. When a fan criticized this stereotyping, Chris claimed that Punchy was "NOT of Asian origin".<ref>[[Mailbag 6]]</ref> Outside of the comic, Chris also misattributes the origin of kung fu to Japan, when in actuality it comes from [[China]]. He does a racist impression of a Chinese person, and claims Japanese and Chinese people sound the same.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> In a [[Katie Bay E-mails|leaked series of e-mails]], it is shown that Chris simply does not seem to know that China and Japan are not the same, as he calls the Japanese account Chinese, failing to realize that they are separate countries with different governments, languages, writing systems and currencies.

In [[Chris Calls Clyde Out]], Chris pretends to be [[Clyde Cash]] while doing an imitation of an Asian accent. This is presumably a reference to Clyde's Asian ancestry.<ref>[[Mumble 2]]</ref>

In his real-life dealings, Chris seems to have a positive or at least a neutral view toward Asians. He has stated that he would not exclude Asian women from his [[Love Quest]], and at one point [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Eating Spaghetti (36:49 - 38:54)|believed Emily to be part-Asian]].

Chris appears to believe that "Ching Chong" is an actual Asian name, rather than a racially insensitive mockery of the Chinese language.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009#Additional material|Ivy is Real]]</ref>

===Native Americans===
{{main|Cherokian Clan}}
[[Image:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|thumb|left| This has something to do with Native Americans. No, really. (Note [[Semen|the typo]].)]]

As stated in the main article, despite claiming to have at least one [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|Cherokee ancestor]], Chris is completely ignorant of Native American culture. However, unlike other minorities, Chris's opinions and representation of Native Americans are a misguided expression of "pride" for his "heritage".

In [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]: [[Sonichu 2#Episode 7: Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"|Episode 7]], Chris tries to tie in his "[[Cherokian]]" heritage with ''Sonichu'' lore. He depicts [[Wikipedia:Cherokee|Cherokee]] characters in his work as white-skinned and blue-eyed, and wearing Ancient Roman-style armor ([[Wikipedia:Joseph Smith|Joseph Smith]] would be proud). The [[Wasabi Clan]] unsurprisingly also bear no resemblance to Native Americans. The Wasabi rival is (once again) very Caucasian-looking, and he wears an orange robe and a brightly-colored hat vaguely resembling a {{w|mitre}}; this has led multiple commentators to say he looks more like the Pope than a Native American figure.

Chris has also embodied his ignorance of Native American culture in a physical form. For a brief time, Chris blurred his gender roles and began to collect and customize ''[[My Little Pony]]'' dolls. One of the dolls he crafted was the infamous "Cheroki-Chan", a Native American pony clearly based upon himself. While there is nothing overtly racist about this abomination, it is probably not how Native Americans want to be represented. In the end Cheroki-Chan is just another Mary Sue for Chris, and pales in comparison to Chris's most infamous portrayal of Native Americans.

Chris attempted to emulate what he perceives as "Native American culture" in a [[War Paint Video]]. In this video Chris wears water-washable paint (and a "[[muscle bra]]") and wields a plastic gun in an attempt to frighten trolls into submission. True Cherokee historically wore breechcloths and leggings most of the time prior to adopting modern styles, and there is little evidence to suggest they owned muscle bras. They also notably did not go to war with toy guns, but famously with bows and arrows, and later captured firearms - all of which Chris [[I AM STRONG|lacks the strength]] to use.

===Jews===
{{see also|Michael Snyder}}
{{quote|I hope that God will forgive you for being so heartless and cruel Michael Snyder!... JEW!|Chris, [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|demonstrating his boundless empathy for religious minorities]]}}

Near the beginning of Chris's [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|unsuccessful attempt]] in April 2010 to be unbanned from the [[The GAMe PLACe]], he felt the need to point out the possibility that Michael Snyder was Jewish, using his last name as a point of reference ("Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the surname "Schneider", which sometimes belongs to Jews). After failing to convince Snyder to lift the ban, Chris angrily called him a Jew and bolted out of the store, seemingly belying his claim to have no ill will towards the Jewish people. In a later video ([[Greene County Conspiracy|100 2178]]), Chris appears to restrain himself from calling Snyder a "greedy Jew". In an email to Katie Bay, he refers to Snyder as a "son of a bitch Jew" and a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> This probably is moreso a misguided attempt to mimic [[South Park#Chris fails to grasp South Park|Eric Cartman]] than the result of any deep-seated antisemitism.

It should be noted that Snyder once clarified in a YouTube comment that he is ''not'' Jewish (though whether this account actually belongs to him is probably not likely), and also that Chris took to using "Jew" like a curse word (because anything directed at blacks nearly got him [[Kick the Autistic|assaulted in retribution]] by patrons).<ref>Michael Snyder#Snyder's YouTube Comments</ref>

Chris finally apologized for insulting Michael on 31 [[March 2018]], after a [[CWC Ancestry|23andme test]] showed that he himself had 0.1% Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry. He characterized this as a "surprise."<ref>[https://archive.md/NR1Vv]</ref> As of 2020 his 23andme results no longer include Jewish ancestry.<ref>[[:File:DNA test.JPG]]</ref>

Funnily enough, according to Chris's [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|list of Adam & Eve purchases]], he had purchased "Nina Hartley's guide to sex toys", a pornographic video starring the titular porn star, who just so happened to be a Jewish Atheist. Whether Chris knew or cared about the fact he was [[mass debating]] to a woman whose race/ beliefs he showed such a prejudice to remains unknown.

Also, Chris has used the Yiddish phrase "oy vey" on occasion (most notably during the [[Jack Thaddeus#The Calls|Jack Thaddeus phone calls]]), though it's not uncommon for that phrase to be used outside of Jewish circles. Chris probably picked it up either from his parents, or from shows like ''Rugrats'' and ''The Simpsons''.

===Hispanics===
{{main|Chris and Spanish}}
[[File:455-EspanolicAndVegaton.JPG|thumb|left|Espanolic and Vegaton, the only [[Pokémon]] lazier than [[Snorlax]].]]

Aside from his rather tenuous grasp on the [[Spanish]] language, Chris has created a somewhat racist caricature in the form of [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|Espanolic]]. It's a Grass-type [[Pokémon]] that resembles an anthropomorphized [[Wikipedia:Sombrero|sombrero]] in front of what appears to be the flag of [[Wikipedia:Flag of Bolivia|Bolivia]] or [[Wikipedia:Flag of Ghana|Ghana]], and its main attack is confusing its enemies with its "strange language". Its evolved form, Vegaton, has an attack called "[[Wikipedia:Spanish fly|Spanish Fly]]", that puts its enemies to sleep.

Hilariously enough, [[Nintendo]] would later create similar Pokémon named Lombre and Ludicolo, which, despite being obvious stereotypes, were handled far more tactfully than Chris could hope to do.

So far, the only Hispanic character in the comics is [[Heather Iglesias]], the [[Homos|lesbian]] nanny of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children]], and then Chris's <s>self-cest</s> children. Chris is probably trying to be inclusive here, but he isn't creative or intelligent enough to think of anything besides a stereotypical occupation for Hispanic women. It also does not help her sentences are random mixes of Spanish and English – and no, not by throwing in a random word or two of Spanish into her sentences, but switching from English phrases to Spanish midway in her sentences (which appear to be Google-Translated).

It is worth noting that Chris sometimes refers to people of Latin American descent as "Spanish". This is not unheard of, especially among [[Borb|older generations]], but it is much less common than the terms "Hispanic" or "Latino".

Chris has shown in the past a willingness to [[Joshua Martinez|befriend]] and [[Lori Lopez|date]] Hispanics.

===Indians===

When TheGamerFromMars took Chris out to eat at an Indian restaurant during the filming of [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy]], Chris [[Random Access Humor|blurted out one-liners]] from ''[[The Simpsons]]'' character Apu (''complete with the stereotypical Indian accent''), much to the embarrassment and disapproval of his hosts. Despite that, Chris insisted on belting out another "Welcome to Kwik-E-Mart!" line before they sat down to eat, [[Autism|oblivious to the fact that he could have offended somebody.]]

[[Manajerks|"Turdijerk"]] from "Off-Target" has a vaguely South Asian appearance and the name may also be based on a stereotype of an Indian accent.

===Other white ethnicities/cultures===
Chris has not shown outright malevolence towards other white cultures, but is often ignorant of their customs and nations. In [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!]], for example, Chris plays an Irish song while wearing a kilt and pretending to be Scottish, then mentions a [[Wikipedia:Shillelagh_(club)|shillelagh]].

Chris has an extremely basic idea on eastern Europe and Russia; [[Sylvana]] was given a supposedly Russian accent midway through the comic for no discernable reason (although the way it was written made it look like a German accent instead).

==Troll manipulation==
{{quote|[giggling] No, say "niggers", you stupid twat.|[[BlueSpike]] to Chris.<ref>[[Julie Reveals Herself]]</ref>}}

In the [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call, [[BlueSpike]] coerced Chris into saying "niggers"; Chris attempted to substitute [[niggos]] instead, but BlueSpike insisted and Chris gave in. The term niggos became an infamous [[CWC-ism]].

In a [[June 2009]] video, Chris uploaded for Julie called [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]] which was a cover the song "Don't Trust Them New Niggas Over There" from The Boondocks. While Chris attempted to make it [[Homos|homophobic]], he still kept many of the racist lyrics from the original song and even repeated the word "nigga" on 3 different occasions in the song.

Chris called [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] a nigger on video<ref>[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]]</ref> and in email.<ref>[[Surfshack Tito E-mails]]</ref> Notably, he never used the term in this context either before or after his interaction with Tito, who is not even depicted as being a black person, suggesting Chris was [[manipulated]] by trolls behind the scenes into using the word.

In [[Jackie E-mails 14]], sweetheart [[Jackie]] asked Chris [[Song for Jackie.MOV|to dress up as Mr. Popo]] on video - a character from [[Dragon Ball]] with black skin, red lips and a turban - while singing "You ain't seen no Saiyans on the fiddle, / No Saiyans on the fiddle like this." Chris complied, though he was aware the costume would appear like blackface and placed a disclaimer stating that "this video presentation is NOT meant to make fun of the Blacks or the Hindus."

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga Chris was manipulated into [[Chris and fashion| dressing up as a gopnik]] (bottle of vodka included) while spouting the phrase "A nu cheeki breeki" and "Davai" over and over again (in reference to the stalker games which Joshua was obsessed with), although like many things during that saga the whole meme probably flew completely over Chris's head and actually was led to believe that the chant was Cherokean instead.

==Not a racist?==
[[Image:ECP 00024.jpg|thumb|left|Chris being a [[niggo|wiggo]].]]
{{quote|And I am NOT racist, and I like Jews.|Chris, in response to a [[Mailbag_6#Rejected_Mailbag|rejected mailbag]] email}}

{{quote|Blacks [...] are good people too.|Chris, in the [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV|disclaimer for his Mr. Popo video]]}}

Chris does not want to be considered a racist. He claims to respect blacks as equals, saying that in CWCville "they can even vote". Or if they can [[Reggie Fils-Aimé|help him get his inane and idiotic video game made]]. He also genuinely likes two black actors: [[My big 18th party (story)|Kenan & Kel]].

He did mention more than once that the reason he doesn't want black girls (but any other race is okay) is because he thinks God told him that his future daughter Crystal must be white, too. In an [[IRC (17 December 2008)|IRC]], Chris said he has no problem with dating an Asian. Later, in [[Mailbag 35]], he wrote he would date "Asian, Native or Hispanic women, as well as women of all other countries" (except the ones being black).

In [[February 2026]], during a series of admissions to previous misdeeds (in order to fuel his self-proclaimed [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]], Chris admitted to having been racist (citing [[Bob Chandler|his dad]] was bigoted) and claimed he felt "distraught" upon realizing his home environment's negative influence.<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Chris's ethnic background==
{{Wise|he is part black and part Jewish.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref>}}

[[File:2023ChrisDNATest.png|thumb|200px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of January 13, 2023, showing that according to his genetics, he is predominantly of [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|British]] ancestry, with additional contributions from Northwestern and Southern European nations.]]
[[File:DNA test.JPG|thumb|500px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of 11 October 2020.]]
[[File:Ancestry composition1.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's original results which convinced him he was Jewish.]]

Influenced by his parents' claims, Chris has long asserted that he is of primarily [[Daniel Weston|English]] descent, with some [[Cherokian Clan|Cherokee]] heritage on Bob's side and some French heritage on Barb's. However, in March 2018, the [[Idea Guys]] had Chris apply for a DNA test from 23andMe to determine his ancestry,<ref>[[March 2018 social media posts#Apology to jewish people]]</ref> which showed that he was of 100% European genetic background, with slightly over half of this being British and most of the rest from across Northwestern Europe. The test also indicated that Chris had a trace amount (less than 0.1%) of Ashkenazi ("ash-KEN-azi") Jewish ancestry. Chris was also led to believe that he had black ancestry because his paternal haplogroup lineage, like all human lineages, began in Africa (as a matter of fact both his paternal and maternal haplogroups point to European origin). As a result, Chris declared that he was "Fully Observant of [his] Jewish ancestry" and that he was "black too." He apologized for his past offensiveness regarding Jews and black people.

Sometime between 2018 and 2020 Chris's 23andMe results were updated. They now show no Jewish ancestry whatsoever, showing a somewhat larger component of [[Mario|Italian]] ancestry instead. They also show that he is of 0.1% [[Cherokean Chant|Siberian]] ancestry, possibly the sign of a distant Native American ancestor as North Asian and Native American populations are closely related.<ref>[https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202906870-Can-23andMe-identify-Native-American-ancestry-]</ref> Chris has yet to comment on these new results.

In January 2023, Chris's 23andMe results were updated again. They showed a larger component of [[PewDiePie|Scandanavian]] and broadly Northwestern European ancestry, increased 0.1% of Italian and the rest of Northwestern European were decreased by a less 2%, and Siberian ancestry increased by 0.1%. It was also added that Chris had 0.1% of "unassigned" ancestry.

==Minority characters in ''Sonichu''==

Chris attempts to add in characters of various races and religions with decidedly mixed results. Many of his non-white characters are one-dimensional or barely relevant but then again so is every white one who isn't Chris in his world full of rainbow hedgehogs. Virtually all black characters are depicted as criminals, villains, or undesirables. The ones that aren't so lucky are treated like crap by the other characters or used in race-related jokes.

In the [[Mailbag]], when Chris is confronted about the lack of minorities in his comic he claims that all of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are considered "minorities" in CWCville, implying that he completely missed the point of the question. Despite being minorities, the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon group never experiences discrimination nor prejudices in the comic; [[homos|that's saved for another minority in CWCville]]. Chris tolerated a black [[Bubbles]] and Indian [[Magi-chan]] renditions in [[July 2020]].

*[[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]] (Jewish, good but immature)
*[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]] (<s>Paleface</s> Native American, lawful good)
*[[Wes Iseli#Wasabi Rival|Wasabi Rival]] (<s>Caucasian</s> Native American, evil)
*[[Sarah Nicole Hammer#Queen of the Cherokian Clan|Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] - (<s>white-washed</s> Native American, good, probably the whitest of all Native American characters in the comics as she's not only blue-eyed but also blonde)
*[[Manajerks#B-Manajerk|B-Manajerk]] (black, evil). A '''villain''' based off a real-life encounter. The B most likely stands for Black; the name was coined so that Chris could distinguish him from other [[Manajerks]]. This is quite similar to the way American black superheroes were named in the 1950-60s.
*[[Barack Obama]] (half-black, half-Arab). A cameo for the sake of a race-related joke. [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] told Chris a racist joke about then-senator Obama, which Chris illustrated within the pages of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]. Chris removed the joke after Obama won the election, but he probably only did that because he respects Obama now.
* [[Blake]] (black, evil turned good). A '''villain''' turned positive-aligned "bad boy". Black Sonichu/Blachu (whose name was later [[retconned|changed]] to Blake) was originally a villain, but switched sides because he's a recolor of [[Shadow the Hedgehog]]. In [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] which were uploaded in 2015 Blake is mistaken as black, being wished a "happy Kwanza, brother" from an African American, and goes on an angry rant about how his skin in not "sunburn color", he is black because of a mutation.
*[[CADD Chef]] (black, evil)
*[[Florance Fisher]] (black, good). A girl whose sole purpose in the comic is to be rejected by Reginald.
*[[Jerkhief]] (black, lawful evil). The Big Cheese of the Jerkops.
** Occasionally other [[Jerkop]]s are shown to be black as well. No other minorities are apparent aside from possibly Turdijerk (see below).
*[[Punchy]] (East Asian, good)
*[[Silvana]] (black, evil [said to turn good])
*[[Manajerks#Turdijerk and Trebor Capman (Accomplice)|Turdijerk]] (drawn with brownish skin and brown hair, possibly Indian(?), evil)
*[[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Constable Louis Perez]] (black police officer who talks entirely in stereotypical black slang)
*[[Inos]] (black, [[tobacky]] smoker). A homeless, intoxicated, diseased, drug-pushing, expectorating Jamaican with filthy dreadlocks.
*[[Heather Iglesias]] (Hispanic, lesbian, good, <s>never seen</s> debuts in ''Sonichu'' #12)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Dr. Bill Schwartz (Bill the Scientist)|Bill Schwartz]] (possibly Jewish, worked for [[Giovanni]] but later on changed sides)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Ching Chong|Ching Chong]] (Asian, appeared in the [[Wedding Comic]] as a flower girl)
*PHI Spring Break reporter (black, appears in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]) - despite the woman only appearing in one panel, Chris manages to make her into a stereotype, addressing the audience as "sistas and brothas".

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Chris and race

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{{quote|I never really had anything against, uh, race or people, I never really did... I have nothing against black people or anyone else of other countries.|[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] while talking to [[BraveryJerk Interviews|BraveryJerk]] in [[2016]], in spite of previous questionable depictions of race in his comics and videos.}}

[[Image: Niggocwc.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris in [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV]], [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] into putting on blackface.]]

The '''race''' of people is often considered a sensitive topic, a poor match for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], with his [[Autism|lack of social tact and tendency to take pop culture stereotypes literally]]. While Chris doesn't seem to hold deeply bigoted views or have irrational hatred toward people that aren't white (or at least not on the same level as his views on [[homos|homosexuals]], [[Asperger syndrome|people with Asperger's Syndrome]], and [[MALE|MALES]]) he has been remarkably tone-deaf when talking about, or portraying, minorities in his comics and videos. The [[Miscreants]] group of trolls used race as ammo to mock and [[Chris and manipulation|manipulate]] Chris.

==Chris and stereotypes==
Chris's views of other cultures can also be traced to the television he watches, such as the typical [[Adult Swim]] cartoon which includes gratuitous use of stereotype-based humor.

===Black people===
[[File:Nodarkies.JPG|thumb|Chris approved of this pic, and said he liked it.<ref>[[:File:Chrisreply1evan.png]]</ref>]]

Chris has been widely considered to be racist against black people since it was learned that his highly specific criteria for a [[sweetheart]] include whiteness and specifically excludes blackness.<ref>[[Attraction Sign]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009|"Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009"]]</ref><ref>In [[IRC (17 December 2008)]], he was asked to describe all the races he would date and he answered, "all but black."</ref> Chris tells this not only to trolls, but to black [[boyfriend-free girls]] in real life, that they do not "meet his standard criteria for a female companion" to their faces.<ref>[[Autism papers|Chris's Psychiatric Examination]]</ref>

His stated reason for not being interested in black women is that his dream-prophecy of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] shows her to be white, which means her mother must be white as well.

Trolls quickly coined the phrase "No darkies" as a quick summary of Chris's criteria for a Boyfriend free girl, much to his chagrin<ref>[[Sonichu Fan Promo]]</ref> – even though he previously approved of a notable piece of fan art with the phrase included prominently. This is essentially accurate; for example, on Chris's profile at [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]] he says that "[[Tobacky|smokers]], [[obesity|overweights]], blacks, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|liars]] need not apply."

On the less-discriminatory side, Chris also has stated that he doesn't hate men who have black girlfriends, and doesn't consider them [[JERKS]], so Chris may think it'll increase his chances of finding a white boyfriend-free girl.

Some teenaged black kids frequented [[The GAMe PLACe]]. Chris picked on them and acted like they wanted to steal from him, hiding his stuff when they were nearby.<ref name="Mimms">[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> The official reason Chris got banned permanently from The GAMe PLACe was getting into a shouting match with one of these children.

Chris also once argued with a huge black guy named TJ while playing [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|Yu-Gi-Oh]]. When they started talking about how Chris would [[Virgin with Rage|never get laid]], Chris yelled, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" As TJ stood up like he was going to [[Kick the Autistic|beat Chris's ass]], Chris shrunk and whimpered "I mean your face down monster...."<ref name="Mimms"/>

He does an impression of the stereotypical black accent, which he apparently confuses with the Jamaican accent, in [[Mumble 4]].

When Chris talked on the phone to [[Jackie]]'s boyfriend [[Lars]], he tried to bridge the gap between their different races by speaking in Ebonics, including referring to himself as a "nigga" and making statements like, "I enjoy the TV shows I get from the, from the black man, including [[Wikipedia:The Jeffersons|''The Jeffersons'']], and [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], and [[Wikipedia:Sanford and Son|''Sanford and Son'']], all a' them."<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref>

On 27 [[June 2012]], Chris posted in [[Facebook]] a photo of a black woman at [[McDonald's]] who he said discriminated against him, and demanded people not go there, and if they do to "throw newspaper in the damn old bitchy, black woman's face!!!"<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>

In 2014, when Chris was infatuated with [[Catherine]], he had a romantic rival by the name of [[Colin]]; he sent a message describing the light shining off of Colin's head in a photo as "poo light."<ref>[[Colin Chat 1]]</ref>

In 2016, Chris was asked by [[BraveryJerk]] what his opinion on the Black Lives Matter movement was. Chris seemingly had never heard of the movement, saying "Uhhh, Black Li – I have not heard of that. Well…Black Lives Matter. It sounds like it’s…uh…maybe people, black people are, sounds like they’re having trouble? But I feel…that, you know, to help any person in general, regardless of race or whatever. I mean, I’m for…the,uh…Black Lives forever."<ref>https://youtu.be/LTtBLPH350w?t=547</ref>

===Asians===
{{see also|Japanophilia}}

In the [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], Chris portrays [[Punchy Sonichu]] as a [[CWC Fighter|kung fu]] master with [[Wikipedia:Epicanthic fold|slanty eyes]], raised in a dojo. When a fan criticized this stereotyping, Chris claimed that Punchy was "NOT of Asian origin".<ref>[[Mailbag 6]]</ref> Outside of the comic, Chris also misattributes the origin of kung fu to Japan, when in actuality it comes from [[China]]. He does a racist impression of a Chinese person, and claims Japanese and Chinese people sound the same.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> In a [[Katie Bay E-mails|leaked series of e-mails]], it is shown that Chris simply does not seem to know that China and Japan are not the same, as he calls the Japanese account Chinese, failing to realize that they are separate countries with different governments, languages, writing systems and currencies.

In [[Chris Calls Clyde Out]], Chris pretends to be [[Clyde Cash]] while doing an imitation of an Asian accent. This is presumably a reference to Clyde's Asian ancestry.<ref>[[Mumble 2]]</ref>

In his real-life dealings, Chris seems to have a positive or at least a neutral view toward Asians. He has stated that he would not exclude Asian women from his [[Love Quest]], and at one point [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Eating Spaghetti (36:49 - 38:54)|believed Emily to be part-Asian]].

Chris appears to believe that "Ching Chong" is an actual Asian name, rather than a racially insensitive mockery of the Chinese language.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009#Additional material|Ivy is Real]]</ref>

===Native Americans===
{{main|Cherokian Clan}}
[[Image:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|thumb|left| This has something to do with Native Americans. No, really. (Note [[Semen|the typo]].)]]

As stated in the main article, despite claiming to have at least one [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|Cherokee ancestor]], Chris is completely ignorant of Native American culture. However, unlike other minorities, Chris's opinions and representation of Native Americans are a misguided expression of "pride" for his "heritage".

In [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]: [[Sonichu 2#Episode 7: Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"|Episode 7]], Chris tries to tie in his "[[Cherokian]]" heritage with ''Sonichu'' lore. He depicts [[Wikipedia:Cherokee|Cherokee]] characters in his work as white-skinned and blue-eyed, and wearing Ancient Roman-style armor ([[Wikipedia:Joseph Smith|Joseph Smith]] would be proud). The [[Wasabi Clan]] unsurprisingly also bear no resemblance to Native Americans. The Wasabi rival is (once again) very Caucasian-looking, and he wears an orange robe and a brightly-colored hat vaguely resembling a {{w|mitre}}; this has led multiple commentators to say he looks more like the Pope than a Native American figure.

Chris has also embodied his ignorance of Native American culture in a physical form. For a brief time, Chris blurred his gender roles and began to collect and customize ''[[My Little Pony]]'' dolls. One of the dolls he crafted was the infamous "Cheroki-Chan", a Native American pony clearly based upon himself. While there is nothing overtly racist about this abomination, it is probably not how Native Americans want to be represented. In the end Cheroki-Chan is just another Mary Sue for Chris, and pales in comparison to Chris's most infamous portrayal of Native Americans.

Chris attempted to emulate what he perceives as "Native American culture" in a [[War Paint Video]]. In this video Chris wears water-washable paint (and a "[[muscle bra]]") and wields a plastic gun in an attempt to frighten trolls into submission. True Cherokee historically wore breechcloths and leggings most of the time prior to adopting modern styles, and there is little evidence to suggest they owned muscle bras. They also notably did not go to war with toy guns, but famously with bows and arrows, and later captured firearms - all of which Chris [[I AM STRONG|lacks the strength]] to use.

===Jews===
{{see also|Michael Snyder}}
{{quote|I hope that God will forgive you for being so heartless and cruel Michael Snyder!... JEW!|Chris, [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|demonstrating his boundless empathy for religious minorities]]}}

Near the beginning of Chris's [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|unsuccessful attempt]] in April 2010 to be unbanned from the [[The GAMe PLACe]], he felt the need to point out the possibility that Michael Snyder was Jewish, using his last name as a point of reference ("Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the surname "Schneider", which sometimes belongs to Jews). After failing to convince Snyder to lift the ban, Chris angrily called him a Jew and bolted out of the store, seemingly belying his claim to have no ill will towards the Jewish people. In a later video ([[Greene County Conspiracy|100 2178]]), Chris appears to restrain himself from calling Snyder a "greedy Jew". In an email to Katie Bay, he refers to Snyder as a "son of a bitch Jew" and a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> This probably is moreso a misguided attempt to mimic [[South Park#Chris fails to grasp South Park|Eric Cartman]] than the result of any deep-seated antisemitism.

It should be noted that Snyder once clarified in a YouTube comment that he is ''not'' Jewish (though whether this account actually belongs to him is probably not likely), and also that Chris took to using "Jew" like a curse word (because anything directed at blacks nearly got him [[Kick the Autistic|assaulted in retribution]] by patrons).<ref>Michael Snyder#Snyder's YouTube Comments</ref>

Chris finally apologized for insulting Michael on 31 [[March 2018]], after a [[CWC Ancestry|23andme test]] showed that he himself had 0.1% Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry. He characterized this as a "surprise."<ref>[https://archive.md/NR1Vv]</ref> As of 2020 his 23andme results no longer include Jewish ancestry.<ref>[[:File:DNA test.JPG]]</ref>

Funnily enough, according to Chris's [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|list of Adam & Eve purchases]], he had purchased "Nina Hartley's guide to sex toys", a pornographic video starring the titular porn star, who just so happened to be a Jewish Atheist. Whether Chris knew or cared about the fact he was [[mass debating]] to a woman whose race/ beliefs he showed such a prejudice to remains unknown.

Also, Chris has used the Yiddish phrase "oy vey" on occasion (most notably during the [[Jack Thaddeus#The Calls|Jack Thaddeus phone calls]]), though it's not uncommon for that phrase to be used outside of Jewish circles. Chris probably picked it up either from his parents, or from shows like ''Rugrats'' and ''The Simpsons''.

===Hispanics===
{{main|Chris and Spanish}}
[[File:455-EspanolicAndVegaton.JPG|thumb|left|Espanolic and Vegaton, the only [[Pokémon]] lazier than [[Snorlax]].]]

Aside from his rather tenuous grasp on the [[Spanish]] language, Chris has created a somewhat racist caricature in the form of [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|Espanolic]]. It's a Grass-type [[Pokémon]] that resembles an anthropomorphized [[Wikipedia:Sombrero|sombrero]] in front of what appears to be the flag of [[Wikipedia:Flag of Bolivia|Bolivia]] or [[Wikipedia:Flag of Ghana|Ghana]], and its main attack is confusing its enemies with its "strange language". Its evolved form, Vegaton, has an attack called "[[Wikipedia:Spanish fly|Spanish Fly]]", that puts its enemies to sleep.

Hilariously enough, [[Nintendo]] would later create similar Pokémon named Lombre and Ludicolo, which, despite being obvious stereotypes, were handled far more tactfully than Chris could hope to do.

So far, the only Hispanic character in the comics is [[Heather Iglesias]], the [[Homos|lesbian]] nanny of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children]], and then Chris's <s>self-cest</s> children. Chris is probably trying to be inclusive here, but he isn't creative or intelligent enough to think of anything besides a stereotypical occupation for Hispanic women. It also does not help her sentences are random mixes of Spanish and English – and no, not by throwing in a random word or two of Spanish into her sentences, but switching from English phrases to Spanish midway in her sentences (which appear to be Google-Translated).

It is worth noting that Chris sometimes refers to people of Latin American descent as "Spanish". This is not unheard of, especially among [[Borb|older generations]], but it is much less common than the terms "Hispanic" or "Latino".

Chris has shown in the past a willingness to [[Joshua Martinez|befriend]] and [[Lori Lopez|date]] Hispanics.

===Indians===

When TheGamerFromMars took Chris out to eat at an Indian restaurant during the filming of [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy]], Chris [[Random Access Humor|blurted out one-liners]] from ''[[The Simpsons]]'' character Apu (''complete with the stereotypical Indian accent''), much to the embarrassment and disapproval of his hosts. Despite that, Chris insisted on belting out another "Welcome to Kwik-E-Mart!" line before they sat down to eat, [[Autism|oblivious to the fact that he could have offended somebody.]]

[[Manajerks|"Turdijerk"]] from "Off-Target" has a vaguely South Asian appearance and the name may also be based on a stereotype of an Indian accent.

===Other white ethnicities/cultures===
Chris has not shown outright malevolence towards other white cultures, but is often ignorant of their customs and nations. In [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!]], for example, Chris plays an Irish song while wearing a kilt and pretending to be Scottish, then mentions a [[Wikipedia:Shillelagh_(club)|shillelagh]].

Chris has an extremely basic idea on eastern Europe and Russia; [[Sylvana]] was given a supposedly Russian accent midway through the comic for no discernable reason (although the way it was written made it look like a German accent instead).

==Troll manipulation==
{{quote|[giggling] No, say "niggers", you stupid twat.|[[BlueSpike]] to Chris.<ref>[[Julie Reveals Herself]]</ref>}}

In the [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call, [[BlueSpike]] coerced Chris into saying "niggers"; Chris attempted to substitute [[niggos]] instead, but BlueSpike insisted and Chris gave in. The term niggos became an infamous [[CWC-ism]].

In a [[June 2009]] video, Chris uploaded for Julie called [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]] which was a cover the song "Don't Trust Them New Niggas Over There" from The Boondocks. While Chris attempted to make it [[Homos|homophobic]], he still kept many of the racist lyrics from the original song and even repeated the word "nigga" on 3 different occasions in the song.

Chris called [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] a nigger on video<ref>[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]]</ref> and in email.<ref>[[Surfshack Tito E-mails]]</ref> Notably, he never used the term in this context either before or after his interaction with Tito, who is not even depicted as being a black person, suggesting Chris was [[manipulated]] by trolls behind the scenes into using the word.

In [[Jackie E-mails 14]], sweetheart [[Jackie]] asked Chris [[Song for Jackie.MOV|to dress up as Mr. Popo]] on video - a character from [[Dragon Ball]] with black skin, red lips and a turban - while singing "You ain't seen no Saiyans on the fiddle, / No Saiyans on the fiddle like this." Chris complied, though he was aware the costume would appear like blackface and placed a disclaimer stating that "this video presentation is NOT meant to make fun of the Blacks or the Hindus."

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga Chris was manipulated into [[Chris and fashion| dressing up as a gopnik]] (bottle of vodka included) while spouting the phrase "A nu cheeki breeki" and "Davai" over and over again (in reference to the stalker games which Joshua was obsessed with), although like many things during that saga the whole meme probably flew completely over Chris's head and actually was led to believe that the chant was Cherokean instead.

==Not a racist?==
[[Image:ECP 00024.jpg|thumb|left|Chris being a [[niggo|wiggo]].]]
{{quote|And I am NOT racist, and I like Jews.|Chris, in response to a [[Mailbag_6#Rejected_Mailbag|rejected mailbag]] email}}

{{quote|Blacks [...] are good people too.|Chris, in the [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV|disclaimer for his Mr. Popo video]]}}

Chris does not want to be considered a racist. He claims to respect blacks as equals, saying that in CWCville "they can even vote". Or if they can [[Reggie Fils-Aimé|help him get his inane and idiotic video game made]]. He also genuinely likes two black actors: [[My big 18th party (story)|Kenan & Kel]].

He did mention more than once that the reason he doesn't want black girls (but any other race is okay) is because he thinks God told him that his future daughter Crystal must be white, too. In an [[IRC (17 December 2008)|IRC]], Chris said he has no problem with dating an Asian. Later, in [[Mailbag 35]], he wrote he would date "Asian, Native or Hispanic women, as well as women of all other countries" (except the ones being black).

In [[February 2026]], during a series of admissions to previous misdeeds (in order to fuel his self-proclaimed [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]], Chris admitted to having been racist (citing [[Bob Chandler|his dad]] was bigoted) and claimed he felt "distraught" upon realizing his home environment's negative influence.<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Chris's ethnic background==
{{Wise|he is part black and part Jewish.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref>}}

[[File:2023ChrisDNATest.png|thumb|200px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of January 13, 2023, showing that according to his genetics, he is predominantly of [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|British]] ancestry, with additional contributions from Northwestern and Southern European nations.]]
[[File:DNA test.JPG|thumb|500px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of 11 October 2020.]]
[[File:Ancestry composition1.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's original results which convinced him he was Jewish.]]

Influenced by his parents' claims, Chris has long asserted that he is of primarily [[Daniel Weston|English]] descent, with some [[Cherokian Clan|Cherokee]] heritage on Bob's side and some French heritage on Barb's. However, in March 2018, the [[Idea Guys]] had Chris apply for a DNA test from 23andMe to determine his ancestry,<ref>[[March 2018 social media posts#Apology to jewish people]]</ref> which showed that he was of 100% European genetic background, with slightly over half of this being British and most of the rest from across Northwestern Europe. The test also indicated that Chris had a trace amount (less than 0.1%) of Ashkenazi ("ash-KEN-azi") Jewish ancestry. Chris was also led to believe that he had black ancestry because his paternal haplogroup lineage, like all human lineages, began in Africa (as a matter of fact both his paternal and maternal haplogroups point to European origin). As a result, Chris declared that he was "Fully Observant of [his] Jewish ancestry" and that he was "black too." He apologized for his past offensiveness regarding Jews and black people.

Sometime between 2018 and 2020 Chris's 23andMe results were updated. They now show no Jewish ancestry whatsoever, showing a somewhat larger component of [[Mario|Italian]] ancestry instead. They also show that he is of 0.1% [[Cherokean Chant|Siberian]] ancestry, possibly the sign of a distant Native American ancestor as North Asian and Native American populations are closely related.<ref>[https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202906870-Can-23andMe-identify-Native-American-ancestry-]</ref> Chris has yet to comment on these new results.

In January 2023, Chris's 23andMe results were updated again. They showed a larger component of [[PewDiePie|Scandanavian]] and broadly Northwestern European ancestry, increased 0.1% of Italian and the rest of Northwestern European were decreased by a less 2%, and Siberian ancestry increased by 0.1%. It was also added that Chris had 0.1% of "unassigned" ancestry.

==Minority characters in ''Sonichu''==

Chris attempts to add in characters of various races and religions with decidedly mixed results. Many of his non-white characters are one-dimensional or barely relevant but then again so is every white one who isn't Chris in his world full of rainbow hedgehogs. Virtually all black characters are depicted as criminals, villains, or undesirables. The ones that aren't so lucky are treated like crap by the other characters or used in race-related jokes.

In the [[Mailbag]], when Chris is confronted about the lack of minorities in his comic he claims that all of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are considered "minorities" in CWCville, implying that he completely missed the point of the question. Despite being minorities, the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon group never experiences discrimination nor prejudices in the comic; [[homos|that's saved for another minority in CWCville]]. Chris tolerated a black [[Bubbles]] and Indian [[Magi-chan]] renditions in [[July 2020]].

*[[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]] (Jewish, good but immature)
*[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]] (<s>Paleface</s> Native American, lawful good)
*[[Wes Iseli#Wasabi Rival|Wasabi Rival]] (<s>Caucasian</s> Native American, evil)
*[[Sarah Nicole Hammer#Queen of the Cherokian Clan|Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] - (<s>white-washed</s> Native American, good, probably the whitest of all Native American characters in the comics as she's not only blue-eyed but also blonde)
*[[Manajerks#B-Manajerk|B-Manajerk]] (black, evil). A '''villain''' based off a real-life encounter. The B most likely stands for Black; the name was coined so that Chris could distinguish him from other [[Manajerks]]. This is quite similar to the way American black superheroes were named in the 1950-60s.
*[[Barack Obama]] (half-black, half-Arab). A cameo for the sake of a race-related joke. [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] told Chris a racist joke about then-senator Obama, which Chris illustrated within the pages of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]. Chris removed the joke after Obama won the election, but he probably only did that because he respects Obama now.
* [[Blake]] (black, evil turned good). A '''villain''' turned positive-aligned "bad boy". Black Sonichu/Blachu (whose name was later [[retconned|changed]] to Blake) was originally a villain, but switched sides because he's a recolor of [[Shadow the Hedgehog]]. In [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] which were uploaded in 2015 Blake is mistaken as black, being wished a "happy Kwanza, brother" from an African American, and goes on an angry rant about how his skin in not "sunburn color", he is black because of a mutation.
*[[CADD Chef]] (black, evil)
*[[Florance Fisher]] (black, good). A girl whose sole purpose in the comic is to be rejected by Reginald.
*[[Jerkhief]] (black, lawful evil). The Big Cheese of the Jerkops.
** Occasionally other [[Jerkop]]s are shown to be black as well. No other minorities are apparent aside from possibly Turdijerk (see below).
*[[Punchy]] (East Asian, good)
*[[Silvana]] (black, evil [said to turn good])
*[[Manajerks#Turdijerk and Trebor Capman (Accomplice)|Turdijerk]] (drawn with brownish skin and brown hair, possibly Indian(?), evil)
*[[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Constable Louis Perez]] (black police officer who talks entirely in stereotypical black slang)
*[[Inos]] (black, [[tobacky]] smoker). A homeless, intoxicated, diseased, drug-pushing, expectorating Jamaican with filthy dreadlocks.
*[[Heather Iglesias]] (Hispanic, lesbian, good, <s>never seen</s> debuts in ''Sonichu'' #12)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Dr. Bill Schwartz (Bill the Scientist)|Bill Schwartz]] (possibly Jewish, worked for [[Giovanni]] but later on changed sides)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Ching Chong|Ching Chong]] (Asian, appeared in the [[Wedding Comic]] as a flower girl)
*PHI Spring Break reporter (black, appears in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]) - despite the woman only appearing in one panel, Chris manages to make her into a stereotype, addressing the audience as "sistas and brothas".

==Sources==
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Chris and socialization

2026-02-17T17:32:39Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Looking forward */

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[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|Chris, surrounded by family and friends.]]

Chris is somewhat capable of '''socializing''', despite what one may assume, given aspects like his social awkwardness and the epic failure of his [[Love Quest]]. Being a nerd and, as of [[2014]], a [[Tomgirl|member of the LGBT community]], Chris has common interests and values with his friends. Awkwardness arises when Chris attempts to take part in conversations which exceed his limited interests, as his broken social filter and lack of common social etiquette due to his [[autism]] can lead to him saying [[Honest Content|inappropriate things]] or attempting to steer the topic to cartoons, video games, [[Messiah complex|godhood]], or the [[SLGBTQ]].

==In real life==
The earliest known example of Chris socializing with someone other than [[Borb]] were his interactions with [[Sarah Hammer]], who moved in next door to the Chandlers when he was approximately three years old. Chris fondly remembers using her swing set, playing hide and seek among other things <ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood]]</ref> <ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>, but he, far from a good judge of character even in his younger days, seemed oblivious to Sarah's less than good intentions. At least twice, she could have caused him harm of her own volition, locking him in a crawlspace and convincing him the berries of a honeysuckle (which can cause [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|stomach problems]]) tasted like honey. [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|He nonchalantly documented both incidents]], in stark contrast to [[Kick the Autistic|what he thinks of perceived wrongdoers]].

He stated his formative years also included interactions with "other neighborhood children"<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>. Chris himself noted [[Gal-pals|they were mainly girls]], though he also befriended [[Joshua Martinez]] (who'd eventually troll him) when attending speech therapy.

More notably, [[Manchester High|in his high school years]], he attended classes and ate lunch with a female circle of friends (because he found the [[JERKS|males]], except for his older friend [[Joseph Herring]], to be immature). However, the only time they were ever known to have spent time with each other outside Manchester High was for [[My big 18th party|his 18th birthday party]], and even then, no photos of the occasion show him and even one of the girls near each other. Chris found out about 15 years later that they were never legitimate friends; their attention was [[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals|arranged]] by [[Bob]] and the principal in a misguided attempt to socialize Chris.

After high school, and in particular after he was suspended from [[college]], Chris used whatever free time he wasn't using at home to attempt socializing in the wild, whether it be for attempting to score [[sweetheart]]s or otherwise. His most notable social endeavors occurred at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where he met [[Megan Schroeder]]. The two formed a strong friendship, but Chris failed to pick up how she merely wanted to be just friends with him, even when she outright told him so numerous times. To cut a long story short, [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|things went]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|very rocky]], and by 2008 Megan had severed ties with him; Chris was also banned from the aforementioned GAMe PLACe, due to acting too hostile to other patrons and card game players.

His other notable social endeavors occurred at the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], which he'd haunt regularly. When he wasn't shopping at its stores or going on [[Date with Emily|ill-fated dates]], Chris spent a lot of his time [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer|pacing around]] in the hopes that he would eventually meet a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. Due to his antics, Chris received many run-ins with [[jerkops]] and temporary (eventually permanent) bans from the outlet.

In [[2014]], Chris began attending [[Cville Pride]] and the [[Impulse Gay Social Club]], both of which would gradually become frequent hangout spots for him. These would serve as stepping stones for Chris to further grow out of his shell, and he later began regularly attending other places of that ilk, including LGBT events at [[University of Virginia]]. The next year would see him attending [[The End Games]] (a card game store) before being banned in 2018. There, he met a few adult [[Pokémon League friends]] who hung out with him outside of the club.

[[File:Cwc cville pride 2017.jpg|thumb||200px|left|At Cville Pride.]]

Sadly, though, Chris regressed back into staying at home thanks to what the [[Idea Guys]] did to him, giving up real life socializing in favor of his [[imaginary friends]] and internet [[enablers]]. He would nevertheless continue going to certain places such as [[conventions]] until [[Jail Saga|late 2021]].
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==Over the Internet==
The Internet has been one of Chris's primary tools for socializing. Chris has regularly used social media websites, dating websites, and some forums as tools to talk with others and hopefully make either some new friends and/or sweethearts.

In 2017, he made attempts to socialize on Twitter with women he saw as potential [[gal-pals]], including voice actresses from some of his favorite shows. His tweets seem to illustrate how he tries to fit into conversations - namely, that he likes to shoehorn in references to cartoons.<ref>[[2017 tweets]]</ref> These attempts, as time went on, [[TF2 Analysis|didn't go over too well]].

===Planet Dolan===

{{main|Planet Dolan|DoopieDoOver|LadyOfTheCosmo}}

[[File:Doopiedrawing.jpg|thumb|Chris commissioned this from Doopie.]]

Doopie is a voice actress/animator for the YouTube channel [[Planet Dolan]]. Chris discovered the channel in August 2016 and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His social awkwardness in full display, he tweeted to her on the subjects of poop,<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref> his hatred of online dating,<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref> and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt.<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>

In June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon. A Like on her post, which is hidden behind a paywall, implies that Chris is pledging $25 per month to her.<ref>https://archive.md/52tZh</ref> He has also paid her $25 for a commission to serve as a profile picture. Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for $50, ostensibly to help him and his mother.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>

Doopie is fully aware of Chris’s online reputation, and sees him as just another customer, as she explained:

{{quoteboxyellow|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.

(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}

On 25 August 2017, Chris tweeted to [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a close friend of Doopie, on Twitter. He consequently got destroyed by her in an ensuing tweet war.

==Conventions==
{{Main|List of conventions attended by Chris}}

Chris has attended many conventions over the years, initially only having been to two in the early to mid-2000s, but later expanding to many in the 2010s. For him, he's generally had a great time attending them; it's a rare chance for him to get out of his house and surround himself with like-minded people, therefore making it easier to Chris to socialize with others. He's stated he's felt more accepted at conventions, though it's debatable whether this interpretation of his is true or not.

==Looking forward==
In [[August 2021]], Chris was arrested after it was revealed he had engaged in [[Affair With Mother|incestuous acts]] with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Chris eventually received an [[autism disorder deferred disposition]] after a lengthy court process (that included a stint in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], a stay at a [[Western State Hospital|psychiatric hospital]], and a [[Gateway Homes|group home]] transfer). Due to the deferred disposition program, Chris was released from jail in [[March 2023]] and his case was dismissed in [[August 2023]]. Chris gradually returned to social media where he resumed his usual antics.

A mysterious woman nicknamed [[Flutter]] by Chris has been routinely spotted hanging out with him in public following the dismissal of his charge; she had reached out to Chris while he was in jail, and her role or purpose in interacting with him is unknown.

Chris apparently still maintains contact with his mother, although now living separately from her. According to a comment in April 2024 by Gamer from Mars, Chris said he meets with her about once a month.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Conspiracy#Interview comments]]</ref> While Chris didn't socialize much with his extended family prior to the incest, he may have a more difficult time with it now, given that his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] banned him from their home upon initially learning of the incest.

Even after his release, the affair still comes back to haunt him. Chris attempted to resume going to [[conventions]] as he had before the incest charge, but quickly found himself [[ban]]ned from three - [[Animate! Raleigh]], [[BABSCon]] (the con literally declaring him persona non grata) and [[HarmonyCon]], in which he claimed to be undergoing a [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]]. He was, however, lucky enough to spend one whole day at the [[List of conventions#Festival of Light|Festival of Light]] in [[May 2025]] without incident.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and kindness]]
*[[COVID-19]]

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Redemption Arc

2026-02-16T22:10:22Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{quote|I am in my Redemption Arc. Please be kind to me, I have repented. All of you should be Soul Searching.|What Chris wrote on a business card before getting kicked out of [[HarmonyCon]] and shouting at random people.}}
{{quote|Everyone, I realize and understand that over the years, I have been a real jerk. I've said and done insensitive things to others over the years. What did it get me? A lot of being trolled, and lots of regrets.
I solemnly swear: from now on, I will never ever again be a jerk. ⚡️💙⚡️|Chris, promising he won't be a [[JERKS|jerk]] again.<ref>[[August 2025 social media posts#Jerk Retirement]]</ref>}}
[[File:HarmonyCon Redemption Arc card.jpg|thumb|300px]]
In fiction, a character, usually a villainous one, goes through a "'''redemption arc'''" when they go through a significant change to atone for their past actions. Outside of fiction, a real-life "redemption arc" involves a deliberate, continuous shift from destructive, immoral actions toward personal growth.

Chris, infamous for being all talk and no bite, will, from time to time, claim that he has learned his lesson, make promises that he will never repeat the actions again, and state that he should not face the consequences of his actions because of it.

Also, and unfortunately for Chris, virtually no one will accept his so-called "redemption arc" because he doesn't live in a TV show ''and'' (most of all) he is [[Chris and his ego|too narcissistic to ever acknowledge his mistakes]], thus preventing him being truly remorseful and willing to change how he acts.

==Times that Chris Had Claimed to Have "Redeemed" Himself==

*On 19 [[May 2025]], Chris uploaded a video on YouTube titled [[Grounded Deep Response]].
*On 9 [[August 2025]], Chris stated on [[Twitter]] that he realized how much of a jerk he's been throughout his Internet career, claiming that he deserved to get trolled and harassed because of it. Following that, he made the bold claim that he will "never" be a jerk again.
*On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris had attempted to attend [[HarmonyCon]] in disguise. Seeing how Chris got banned from many previous brony conventions due to a rather [[Affair with Mother|horrifying turn of events]], he created a business card, which he likely intended to leave in case anyone saw him. Outside of him telling the people at the event to "Touch Grass", when people figured out he was at the event, he was kicked out of the convention. As he was getting kicked out, Chris was recorded shouting at people.
* On 16 February 2026, Chris [[February 2026 social media posts#Roleplaying as God to complain about HarmonyCon ban|posted a roleplay as God on]] [[Bluesky]], wherein he claims Chris has been "forgiven" and "cleansed" both by God and other deities, urging everyone to dole out "kindness and support" for his redemption arc, in response to the aforementioned ban from HarmonyCon.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and hypocrisy]]
*[[Chris and introspection]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]

{{References}}
{{CWC-isms}}

Redemption Arc

2026-02-16T22:04:56Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Times that Chris Had Claimed to Have "Redeemed" Himself */

{{Needs Updating|[[February 2026 social media posts#Roleplaying as God to complain about HarmonyCon ban]]}}
{{quote|I am in my Redemption Arc. Please be kind to me, I have repented. All of you should be Soul Searching.|What Chris wrote on a business card before getting kicked out of [[HarmonyCon]] and shouting at random people.}}
{{quote|Everyone, I realize and understand that over the years, I have been a real jerk. I've said and done insensitive things to others over the years. What did it get me? A lot of being trolled, and lots of regrets.
I solemnly swear: from now on, I will never ever again be a jerk. ⚡️💙⚡️|Chris, promising he won't be a [[JERKS|jerk]] again.<ref>[[August 2025 social media posts#Jerk Retirement]]</ref>}}
[[File:HarmonyCon Redemption Arc card.jpg|thumb|300px]]
In fiction, a character, usually a villainous one, goes through a "'''redemption arc'''" when they go through a significant change to atone for their past actions. Outside of fiction, a real-life "redemption arc" involves a deliberate, continuous shift from destructive, immoral actions toward personal growth.

Chris, infamous for being all talk and no bite, will, from time to time, claim that he has learned his lesson, make promises that he will never repeat the actions again, and state that he should not face the consequences of his actions because of it.

==Times that Chris Had Claimed to Have "Redeemed" Himself==

*On 19 [[May 2025]], Chris uploaded a video on YouTube titled [[Grounded Deep Response]].
*On 9 [[August 2025]], Chris stated on [[Twitter]] that he realized how much of a jerk he's been throughout his Internet career, claiming that he deserved to get trolled and harassed because of it. Following that, he made the bold claim that he will "never" be a jerk again.
*On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris had attempted to attend [[HarmonyCon]] in disguise. Seeing how Chris got banned from many previous brony conventions due to a rather [[Affair with Mother|horrifying turn of events]], he created a business card, which he likely intended to leave in case anyone saw him. Outside of him telling the people at the event to "Touch Grass", when people figured out he was at the event, he was kicked out of the convention. As he was getting kicked out, Chris was recorded shouting at people.
* On 16 February 2026, Chris [[February 2026 social media posts#Roleplaying as God to complain about HarmonyCon ban|posted a roleplay as God on]] [[Bluesky]], wherein he claims Chris has been "forgiven" and "cleansed" both by God and other deities, urging everyone to dole out "kindness and support" for his redemption arc, in response to the aforementioned ban from HarmonyCon.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and hypocrisy]]
*[[Chris and introspection]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]

{{References}}
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Chris and introspection

2026-02-15T18:15:33Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge */

{{Incomplete|Complete sections on Self-Awareness, Perseveration, and Self-Projection}}
{{Quote|I have been slowly but surely mentally, and emotionally, and spiritually- [flips over the Sonichu medallion] been maturing. [dramatic sigh]|Chris.<ref>[[Grounded Deep Response]]</ref>}}

'''Introspection''' involves the examination of one's own inner workings and past actions, typically to make more well-informed decisions in the future.<ref>{{w|Introspection}}</ref> Possibly as a result of his [[autism]], which affects how he perceives how his actions affects others, combined with his inflated ego, Chris has been noted for lacking the ability to do any sort of true reflection upon himself or to take accountability his actions. Chris then winds up making the same mistakes and blunders over and over and over again, and Christory is doomed to repeat itself.

Chris believes that he is a blameless, [[Chris and religion|holy]] creature that is [[Mary Poppins|practically perfect in every way]]. However, he sees plenty of flaws in the world around him that cause him [[stress]], never once thinking that his behavior might be the problem. He blames all of his problems on external factors like [[trolls]], [[homos]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracies]] or the [[JERKS|entire male population]]. In the past he's faulted the [[Jerkop|police]], [[Manajerks|store managers]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Jerkop|mall security guards]] for complications during his [[Love Quest]]. When Chris can't fault other people for his problems, he relies on autism and stress as fallback excuses.

==Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge==
{{Main|Redemption Arc}}
Part of one's understanding of themselves is the awareness of their character, thoughts, and actions, and how they affect other people. Chris is noted for his utterly [[Chris and his ego|warped image of himself]], also being highly sensitive to how other people see him to the point where [[Affirmations List|he sometimes focuses on "positives" about himself]] and expects everyone around him to do the same.

Also, because he is accustomed to seeing himself as a helpless innocent victim of others' cruelty (for "reasons" that amount to imaginary desires on others' part to aggrieve him simply for the sake of it), he at best virtually or at worst flat out doesn't acknowledge that something he did caused the conflict in the first place. For example, when Chris refused to accept being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he ''barely'' admitted to doing something negative (i.e. [[100 2261.MOV|shouting from stress]] and [[Jackie E-mails#Chris hates authority|writing an insulting message to the store's manager]]) that got himself shown the door while [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|other accounts]] revealed that Chris was openly hostile, bigoted and generally obnoxious to fellow patrons and card game players.

==Self-Hatred==
{{See also|Chris and remorse}}
Chris has a tendency to express regret towards past happenings in his life, to the point of seeing his past, "Classic" self in a very negative light. However, when (much less if) he tries expressing remorse, it comes across as hollow and insincere, especially given Chris obviously wants to appease whoever he has upset and/or gain something desired in return over trying to better himself and avoid repeating the same mistakes.

Furthermore, Chris tends to focus on or contrive reasons why something went wrong that differ from what happened and what he should ''actually'' be apologizing for, such as when Chris believed [[Megan Schroeder]] [[Megan emails, 2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|misunderstood the sexual act he depicted]] (rather than being disgusted that she was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|featured in pornographic artwork without her consent]]) or that he owed [[Mary Lee Walsh]] an apology just for depicting her as a villain in his comics, without acknowledging that he both flouted campus rules ''and'' foolishly put her on the receiving end of aggression (in that order).

==Victim Complex==
Chris is known for portraying himself as a sort of perpetual victim, always being wronged by someone.

Due to her tremendous influence on the CWCSphere, the Kiwi Farms user [[Spooky Bones]] was able to spread many, many rumors about [[Isabella Loretta Janke]], the person who intended to leak the [[Incest call]] anonymously. As a result of the leaking of the call putting Chris in jail, Spooky's claims about Bella; along with the overwhelmingly negative reception she's received due to her online activities; had made it easier for him to turn Bella into a scapegoat, and avoid taking responsibility for his crime.

==Self-Projection==
{{Main|Chris and hypocrisy}}

==Stance on Being Transgender==
Chris considers being [[transgender|trans]] as being one of the most introspective moments of his life.

==See Also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Chris and his ego]]
*[[Chris and mental healthcare]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]
*[[Enablers]] - People who allow Chris to avoid introspection.
*[[Meditation]]

{{References}}
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List of places that have banned Chris

2026-02-15T18:12:00Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Protip|Don't be a [[weening|ween]] and harass any of the places Chris has been to in the hopes of getting him banned. Yes, sadly, [[The End Games#Management's perspective|people have done that.]]}}
{{quote|Bann has happened again.|[[Chris]], after being banned from [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]] for the third time.<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (paintingatree)#Bann has happened again]]</ref>}}

[[File:Chris_gets_banned_minty.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction of Chris being banned.]]
[[Image:BANHAMMER.png|thumb|The weapon of choice.]]

Although he is (at least physically) a grown adult, [[Chris]] is not above [[Chris and anger|throwing tantrums]] and being a nuisance in public places. Because of his obnoxious behavior, Chris has been either temporarily or permanently '''banned''' from many places, physical and not. Following his [[Affair with Mother|incest]] charge, it is expected that this list is going to get much, much longer.

==Stores and businesses==
===The GAMe PLACe===
{{main|The GAMe PLACe}}

According to [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]], Chris was banned twice. The first time, which was temporary, was when Chris attempted to take out a box of prizes and badges for the ''[[Pokémon]]'' [[card game]] league without permission and authorization to do so. [[Michael Snyder]] later wound up permabanning him on 28 August [[2008]], after Chris got aggressive with a [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black child]], but even this failed to keep Chris away from the store. Following the events of [[28 October 2011]], Chris was definitively banned by court order from ever re-entering the store, all the way to its shutdown in [[June 2014]].

===Charlottesville Fashion Square===
{{main|Charlottesville Fashion Square}}

Chris was busted four times here, once for [[Love Quest|loitering]]. The second incident may or may not have been Chris's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" shout upon learning [[Hanna]] was [[troll]]ing him. He was banned for a year, but the ban has since expired. On 28 [[April 2012]], it was revealed he was banned again, this time from arguing with trolls loudly on his phone. He then violated that ban when he committed the [[26 December 2014]] pepper spray incident. Proving that he failed to learn anything, Chris trespassed at the mall in March 2018, ending up on the [[Therapeutic Docket]] alternative sentencing program after the mall staff caught him.<ref>[[Chris and the Law#2018]]</ref> This act of leniency by the court failed to deter Chris from going to the mall.

===Walmart===
{{main|Mal-Wart}}

Chris has been kicked out of Walmart on at least four separate occasions. On 23 June [[2005]], the [[Chris and Race#Black_people|African-American]] [[Manajerks|manager]] of the [[Charlottesville]] store's [[McDonald's]] (depicted as the [[B-Manajerk]] by Chris in the comics) attempted to have Chris arrested for loitering, but his own fast thinking and hiding his Attraction Sign (which got him in trouble in the first place) ended up with him removed from the restaurant for the rest of the day (or so he says). The actual banning came two days later, on 25 June, when Chris returned and attempted to loiter again. Both managers for McDonald's and Walmart confronted Chris, but Chris refused to listen to the managers, ran off, and nearly ran ''over'' one of them. In late [[2009]], he returned to Walmart, forcing one of the female employees to measure him for a [[sports bra]].

Proving he learns nothing, Chris was again banned in September [[2013]], this time at the recent [[Ruckersville]] location, after vandalizing an Xbox One sign to read "[[HEXbox]] One," according to his [[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris Expresses His Outrage for Walmart|Facebook post]] on 6 [[September 2013]]. In the ensuing Facebook posts, he blames almost everyone else but himself for the ban, including [[Michael Snyder]], [[Megan Schroeder]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and even his defense attorney [[Rob Bell]]. A year later, Chris got thrown out of Walmart yet again, after an employee recognized and confronted him. He eventually left, but not before threatening the employee with pepper spray. For reference, this came less than a week after he was arrested for attacking a GameStop employee with mace.

===Target===
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On 20 July 2005 (almost a month after Chris's incident over at Walmart), he attempted to loiter at a newly-built Target, intending on [[Obesity|exploiting their free soda refill deal]] while he tried to get boyfriend-free girls. According to [[Emily]], Chris was approached by management and asked to leave, but he refused. When the issue was pressed, he insulted and forced them to call the cops. When they did, Chris tried to run, forcing them to tackle, hogtie and handcuff him. All this during the store's opening week!

===McDonald's===
Chris was temporarily banned from a [[McDonald's]] in Forest Lakes in [[June 2012]]. According to [[Kim Wilson]], Chris had been loitering in the restaurant to grab newspapers that customers had left behind<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (LoveYouLongTime)#McDonalds Ban]]</ref> - he had wanted newspaper for [[Clover and Snoopy|the Chandler dogs]] to relieve themselves on<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (LoveYouLongTime)#More on McDonalds Ban]]</ref> since it was [[Barbara]]'s policy for the dogs to do that on newspapers inside the house.

An employee confronted Chris about it, and he was ordered to leave, but not before taking two unsolicited photos of people at the restaurant. He then ranted on Facebook about the experience, trying to incite his readers to "throw newspaper in the damn old bitchy, black woman's face!!!".<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Discriminated at McDonald's]]</ref>

===GameStop===
Chris had already been banned from the Fashion Square branch of his local GameStop for his [[Sonic Boom Protests]] when, on [[26 December 2014]], he came "[[Honor roll|disguised]]" in a pair of ''[[My Little Pony]]'' [[Chris and fashion|novelty sunglasses]], supposedly intending to buy a new ''Skylanders'' figure and some secondhand Wii U games. However, the staff confronted him and were unmoved by his protests that he was there to actually buy stuff rather than vandalize their property. He eventually left, but not before assaulting one of the employees by spraying his can of pink mace at his shirt, [[Chris and the law|a felony]]. This act resulted in him being arrested.

After Chris was let off with a fine in [[October 2015]], he received a letter purporting to be from GameStop, informing him that his ban had been upgraded to a statewide one. Chris uploaded [[GameStop is UNFAIR to Everyone; Not Just Me!|a video]] about this on 7 December. However, the statewide ban was later proven to be the work of a [[trolls|troll]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-12-7-chris-decries-gamestops-discrimination-against-battletoads.15158/page-10#post-1135462 (archive: https://archive.ph/df0l4)</ref>

It is known, however, that Chris is apparently banned from the majority of GameStop locations in his area, likely due to the aforementioned incident. This resulted in him once driving two hours away from Ruckersville in order to find a location he was able to visit.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Welfare Check on Barbara]]</ref>

===Best Buy===
Chris was caught attempting to shoplift video games at Best Buy<ref>[[Best Buy#Attempted shoplifting]]</ref> in early 2014.

According to Chris, he was formally notified that he was banned from Best Buy a few days after 29 December 2014, when he was released from jail on bail following the GameStop pepper spray incident.

He stated in November 2015 that he believed he was banned as part of a conspiracy masterminded by the [[Yellow-Shirted Foe]], who he thought was working at both GameStop and Best Buy.<ref>[[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]]</ref>

{{quotebox|To make this, to make that story short, a few days after I got out of jail on December 28th ''[sic]'', 2014, and I had absolutely no pepper spray on my person whatsoever, because as I had mentioned earlier, I had emptied the canister and disposed of the can-, canister. I had done nothing at the Best Buy prior to that day. And a certain manager spokes the living crap outta me, tellin’ me I was not welcome there, that I was banned from there. I had asked why. He did not give me any answer. Then I reached into my bag to get some money out, little funds to see if I could pay my way out of this. I had not said anything about the pepper spray whatsoever, but I put my hand in the bag, and his subordinate shouts, ‘He’s going for the pepper spray!’ I stopped in surprise after hearing that. Ultimately, I left the store. I had gone there again months later to be met with the same shpiel, and no answer to why. I even went over dere head, on the telephone, to try to resolve it. Nothing.

Then last Tuesday, November 10th, I went there once again to buy LEGO Dimensions Pack with a ten-dollar certificate. I got met in the back of the store with the shpiel once again, and this time I asked why and I finally got the answer. They said that I, quote, threatened them with pepper spray, and we have video footage, unquote. But again, that first time they said anything about me not being welcome there, I had not, nor ever, threatened anyone at that store. Nor had I any pepper spray on any of my visits there, then, and prior.}}

On 2 October 2016, he reaffirmed that he was still banned.<ref>[[October 2016 Facebook posts#Still banned from Best Buy]]</ref>

===The End Games===
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Chris posted to his Pokémon club's Facebook page on 20 March 2018, pleading to be let back into the shop. The End Games confirmed his ban on 29 March. The ban came as a result of Chris arguing with the manager over whether [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] counted as a [[Pokémon]]; apparently, this was either due to another argument with a game judge or Chris trying to put Sonichu on the store's sign.

Two years later, on [[January 2020]], the store's Twitter page blocked Chris's account after he demanded the shop unban him so he could learn to play ''Dungeons & Dragons''.

===Anytime Fitness===
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Chris was coerced by the [[Idea Guys]] to get a membership at this place and was there for a month or two before getting the boot. Chris got complaints from other patrons due to being [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|gassy]] and [[Fangs|burping]] a lot, and the constant phone calls from [[weens]] regarding Chris's patronage didn't help matters.

===Papa John's (delivery only)===
On 5 [[August 2019]], Chris [[August 2019 social media posts#Chris caused a fender-bender and kicked a cop car; discovers he's blacklisted from Papa Johns|reported]] that the Papa John's in Charlottesville refused to deliver pizza to the Chandlers at [[14 Branchland Court]], due to [[trolls]] and [[weens]] spending years prank-calling the establishment posing as Chris. Chris only found out about the partial ban after driving to the place to find out why their orders were being canceled; he is still able to order pizza in person. It's extremely likely there are other pizza places that have had Chris's address blacklisted for the same reason.


==Institutions==
===Cub Scouting===
Chris stated in part 4 of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] that he was kicked out of the "[[Wikipedia:Cub Scouting (Boy Scouts of America)|Wolf Cub Scouts]]" in the late [[1980s]] because he was autistic. Undoubtedly, it was for something he did that he didn't tell us about. His comments suggested that he routinely angered his Den Mother with his illogical behavior and that he believed this to be the reason he is banned. In 2014, while on his [[Catie Date Conversation Transcript|date]] with [[Catherine]], he elaborated that he was probably "being outbursting and loud for something," although he couldn't remember. In [[Mailbag 18#Instead the courts were on the side of justice|a Mailbag]], Chris revealed that his parents tried to sue the Boy Scouts of America over this incident.

===Piedmont Virginia Community College===
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Two incidents occurred here during Chris's time as a student, and a third incident occurred three years after his graduation.

The first was on Chris's 21st [[birthday]], 24 February [[2003]]. Chris originally blamed the incident on his having an outburst when he was kicked out of a class after telling a male professor that he, like the main character in a story they were learning about, was autistic. According to [[Emily]] and other accounts, however, it turns out that he was kicked out because the topic of [[homos|homosexuality]] had come up in class, and he had shouted or written something homophobic and possibly [[Chris and race|racist]] (he stated it was "exclamations you'd likely hear from a black person in church").<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref> It is also unclear whether Chris was merely kicked out of class for the day or whether he was dropped from the course altogether. In any event, Chris started his [[Love Quest]] this day.

The second incident was in October [[2003]] when the Dean of Student Services [[Mary Lee Walsh]] spotted Chris and his [[Attraction Sign]] and took it away, as she believed he was trying to solicit sex on campus. When Walsh destroyed a second sign, Chris [[Chris and anger|raged]] and went on the offensive. At one point, he sent Walsh a note that expressed his dislike of her and featured a drawing of an "intimidating glare". This was interpreted by Walsh as harassment, and led to her suspending Chris for a year, forcing him to see a [[Autism papers|psychiatrist]] and go to anger management classes before returning (neither of which seem to have helped).

In [[2009]], Chris would be banned permanently from the PVCC campus after his attempt to deliver an "apology drawing" to Mary Lee Walsh. Walsh did not feel like once again dealing with somebody she wanted to keep far away from herself and her students, and in response, banned him from school grounds. She sent over an envelope with a trespassing notice to his parents; Chris initially said they never bothered to open or properly read it,<ref>[[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL]]</ref><ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)#IRL Stalker (Or so they Wrongfully Claim)]]</ref> but later claimed they tried to unsuccessfully appeal the notice.<ref>[[Apology Letters#Mary Lee Walsh Apology]]</ref>

===Grace Baptist Church===
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Chris was banned from his old church in [[2008]]. He claimed in an email with [[lordsillynipples]], "Pastor John Hartless did not like my views I've expressed in [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|my video I did on my 25th Birthday]], and he found the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page." Later, in [[Mailbag 14]], he claimed it was because "The pastor did a background check on me, and found images of [[Women's rights|women in bikinis]] on my [[Facebook]]; he was offended." Going by his frequent threats to use his new congregation as a personal army, it is not unlikely that Chris was booted out of the church when he linked his pastor to his ED page in the hope that Mr. Hartless would incite the congregation into raiding the ED page for Chris.

===Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church===
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A [[Other documents#Epistle to the Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|letter]] leaked on 30 March 2013 revealed that sometime between [[July 2011]] and [[March 2013]], Chris had earned himself a temporary ban from Wesley Methodist, probably because he had repeatedly (and annoyingly) aired his endless grievances about trolls during the homily.

{{quote|I feel that ever since Reverend Elizabeth Foss left our church, it has greatly gone downhill for me. Ed Winkler Banned me from the church for a month. He has Banned me from Speaking my peace during the Sharing of Joys and Concerns, and from that, I have felt unnecessarily Silenced.|Chris, on how his own church is now playing [[Kick the Autistic]]}}

Not long after, Chris had asked [[Rocky Shoemaker]] to distribute copies of a letter that not only called her advice ineffective, but also accused God himself of playing [[Kick the Autistic]], which further strained the relationship between him and his fellow congregants.

Chris got into hot water at the church again a few years later. In August 2017, he decided to wear his [[unicorn cosplay]] from [[BronyCon]] to a service and had to be told to remove it due to its being wildly inappropriate.

Although Chris has not been permanently banned from Wesley Memorial (so far as we know), he ceased his involvement with the church at some point in the late 2010s as his [[Chris and religion|religious views]] had diverged too greatly from mainstream Christianity.

==Events==
===TooManyGames===
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Chris was kicked out of the [[June 2018]] convention on Day 2 as a result of being inappropriately touchy with and kissing attendees. He reacted by curling down on the floor for a good period of time before security took him out.

As far as we know, he was not banned from future conventions, but he never made another attempt to attend.

===Seaquestria Fest===
[[File:Ban_List_(Feat._Chris).png|thumb|Seaquestria's ban list]]

Chris expressed interest in attending this [[My Little Pony]] convention, which was to be held in Ocean City, Maryland in May 2020.<ref>[[Children of Kefentse#Possible MLP Cons]]</ref> However, the convention had him at the top of a preemptive ban list, incidentally above a known [[pedofork]]. It was postponed twice due to the [[COVID-19|coronavirus]] pandemic and was finally held for the first time in May 2022, at which point Chris was in jail.<ref>https://www.horse-news.org/2020/03/seaquestria-fest-exposing-everything.html</ref>

===[[Everfree Northwest]]===
Chris wanted to attend this Seattle MLP convention, making plans in [[June 2021|June]] and [[July 2021]] to go, but was banned following the initial [[Incest Call]] fallout.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Chris's Final Messages in the Knights Server]]</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGpsx6Wnqw</ref>

===[[Animate! Raleigh]]===
According to Redditor DeadStargazer, a friend claimed to have witnessed Chris being escorted out of this Raleigh, North Carolina convention by staff along with [[Flutter]] on Day 2,<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1907pum/chris_chan_kicked_out_of_animate_raleigh/ ([https://archive.fo/bWEz2 archive])</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1907pum/comment/kgn0c0r/?context=3 ([https://archive.fo/WDBeL archive])</ref> likely after a [[Weening|snitch]] informed convention staff about Chris' status as a [[Affair with Mother|motherfucker]]. Chris nevertheless coped with the ban by claiming he had a "nice weekend."<ref>[[January 2024 social media posts#Nice weekend]]</ref>

===[[BABSCon]]===
[[File:BABSCon Framed Chris Emails.jpeg|thumb|100px|Truly a work of modern art.]]
On 8 [[March 2024]], BABSCon staff replied to Chris informing him of his status as a "persona non grata" and banned him from attending the [[2024]] event, as well as all future BABSCons. Chris argued back in an email response, but failed to persuade staff.<ref>[[BABSCon E-mails]]</ref> Chris then tweeted, stating "#BABSCon is not worth a grain of salt."<ref>[[March 2024 social media posts#BABSCon]]</ref>

The email exchange was framed and passed around during the Mare Gallery party.

===[[HarmonyCon]]===
On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris attempted to attend HarmonyCon in disguise as the [[Power Rangers|White Power Ranger]]. A few convention-goers recorded Chris from different angles as he was being kicked out of the building by staff, shouting nonsense in the process. Chris apparently made a futile effort not to get banned by way of leaving behind a [[Business card|business card]], attempting to convince congoers he was going through a "[[Redemption arc|redemption arc]]".

==Websites==
===PlayStation Network===
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Chris has gotten at least one temporary ban from the PlayStation Network's social networking features as a result of making [[death threats]] to [[Adam Stackhouse]] and several others in one of his blog entries during [[August 2007]], over Adam's beating him in the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]] through what Chris incorrectly claimed was a violation of the rules. One of the site's moderators ordered Chris to remove the blog entry, and when Chris responded by telling the moderator to "SHUT UP AND GO READ THE OFFICIAL RULES!!!!", he found himself being slapped with a ban lasting approximately a month.

===DeviantART===
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Chris has been banned twice from deviantART. Both times were for a reason that you can probably guess right off the bat: sexual imagery without even bothering to use the proper mature content filters. The first time was around [[May 2009]], most likely due to the imagery from [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]]; the second was August 28, 2009, due to the infamous cameltoe scene in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] and the sex scene between [[Blake]] and [[Bubbles Rosechu]] in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

===YouTube===
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Chris abandoned many of his accounts after troll attacks. One of his accounts, CChanSonichu, was suspended because of [[The July 10th Messages|three insulting videos]] he posted in tandem on 10 [[July 2009]].

On 23 [[July 2016]], Chris [[July 2016 Facebook posts#2 Strikes on Youtube|posted]] that YouTube had temporarily banned his CwcvilleGuardian account from uploading videos. Chris believed that the ban was due to his use of the "F word". In reality, YouTube had banned him for violating its policy on "nudity or sexual content", after his channel received two strikes against it – one for [[IMG 3207]] and another for [[Paid Video Requests#Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Shake my boobies|Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Shake my boobies]]. Chris was unaware of the length of his ban, which was two weeks per YouTube's policy at the time.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170130213259/https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802032?hl=en</ref>

On 26 July, he circumvented the ban by [[Paid Video Request Reminder|uploading to another account]].

What's curious about this is that technically, you're not allowed to create another YouTube account after your previous channel has been suspended, though it's possible that Chris made another Google account. Since he didn't re-upload any of his old stuff, he was able to continue having a YouTube account.

===Wikipedia===
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On 1 May 2009, Chris created an account on Wikipedia, hoping to show his side of his life story, one that wasn't "smeared" by trolls. It was deleted soon afterward for violating Wikipedia's policy on userpages and notability. When he attempted to contest this course of action, his user account was indefinitely blocked (although the blocking admin actually believed it to be a [[wikipedia:Sockpuppet (Internet)|sockpuppet]] of a troll and not the genuine article). As of now, the article name "Christian Weston Chandler" has been "salted" to prevent it from ever being recreated.

===Flipnote Hatena===
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After uploading and re-uploading numerous Flipnotes that violated the rules of the family-friendly Flipnote Hatena site, the moderators banned him permanently from uploading Flipnotes on the 2nd of [[July 2010]]. Chris has since evaded his ban. Flipnote Studio 3D was later released in [[February 2015]] after Flipnote Hatena shut down on the 31st of [[May 2013]].

===eBay (as a seller only)===
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Chris has attempted to sell the [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing]] on [[eBay]] since 1 [[June 2014]]. Time and again, however, the listing for the picture was taken down, either as a result of troll involvement, the listing expiring (the asking price of thousands of dollars not helping in that respect), or in true Chris fashion, breaking the terms of services on eBay by asking for offers on Facebook. This would culminate in a 3-day ban from eBay on June 8th, 2014. Chris, being incapable of taking "no" for an answer, stated his intention to put the picture back up for sale again the minute the ban expired.

On 12 June, Chris reposted the listing, only for eBay to give him ''another'' ban. When his second ban expired, he reposted a heavily edited version of the posting, although still possibly violating several of eBay's terms again.

Around [[September 2014]], a guy named "Mr. Smith" decided to order one of Chris's mass-market [[medallion]]s, thinking that it would take 2 weeks to ship, not to ''create'' the medallion itself. After 2 weeks had passed by with the medallion still not arrived, he filed a case with eBay, thus freezing Chris's PayPal. This ''really'' got Chris's [[duck]] in a twist and led to a complicated series of events that later ended in eBay refunding Mr. Smith.

A third strike against Chris's tarnished eBay name eventually came around on [[June 2019]], when Chris was finally banned after numerous customer complaints about his failure to ship out orders.<ref>[[:File:Chrisebayblocked.png]]</ref>

===Sega Customer Service===
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GameStop is not the only place Chris is banned from for raging over ''Sonic Boom''. On 12 [[December 2014]], Chris sent Sega Customer Service an angry e-mail that raged over ''Sonic Boom'' and told them to recall ''anything'' with Sonic's blarms on it or else. Later in the day or the day after that, Sega banned his Customer Service account from the service.

===Facebook===
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On 3 [[July 2015]], Chris's Facebook account was taken down very briefly. While it is currently unknown why this occurred, it can likely be chalked up to Chris bending the rules of the website as per usual. These include screenshots of sexting, pictures of lizards mating, his omnipresent death threats to Sega, and linking to a Wikipedia article about sex acts with an NSFW image as a thumbnail. The last straw was when he uploaded a drawing called "Pink Lemonade", which featured Chris being showered with pink lemonade (or, as [[Kim Wilson]] interpreted it, period blood) from a pitcher pouring it through a [[china]]-shaped lemon, and bragging about how "It will be on Long enough for all to enjoy a glass." It's beyond surprising that Facebook was able to keep up with Chris's shenanigans for 4 years before taking it down for the 3rd time. His account was then put back up the same day, proving that Chris is the ultimate bullet dodger.

However, it seems he hasn't got off quite yet, as a recent picture he posted of his [[manboobs]] on 9 July was surprisingly taken down due to reports, which is the first time Chris has had a photo taken down on Facebook. He then reposted it, leading to his account getting deactivated the second time this month. It was then put back up, then closed yet again, and ''then'' put back up. It seems that this might be where it continues on, but with Facebook taking down a post that asked Chris's followers to fund him a prosthetic china in [[September 2015]], only time will tell.

On 29 [[November 2014]], the makers of the [[Keep Sonic Original]] page banned Chris from the group after a post was made containing death threats to Sega. Also, on 4 [[October 2015]], Chris got booted off the Amiibo Trade & Collectors page for hostile posts and for making Amiibos out of original characters.

On 15 [[November 2016]], Chris [[I Tweet AND Post Simultaneously|announced]] that Facebook had temporarily banned him from posting for a week due to his repeated death threats against [[Donald Trump]] on that platform.

===Lulu===
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In [[December 2015]], Chris got his account suspended from the literature hosting website [[Lulu]]. The website doesn't allow authors to publish fanfiction or stories based on copyrighted characters and/or properties from other creators. Given that Chris used the website to publish copies of ''Sonichu'', you can guess how this turned out. He later made an alternate account on Lulu in order to keep selling his comics. Even so, Chris decided to [[lie]] to his audience and claim that getting banned from Lulu was the cause of his "creative groove" being "killed".

On 9 February 2018, Chris reopened the account publicly, and it quickly got banned through the efforts of [[A-Logging|A-Logs]] three days later. However, he simply circumvented the ban by making another alt account, proven when he posted a poll on whether his fans would like a copy of [[Bryanfrogboy]]'s CWC Prequel comic with their comic order in March 2018.

Chris's account was later taken down again, possibly due to the incest leaks.

===Etsy===
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Chris's Etsy business seemed to be going pretty well until [[March 2016]], when he bought a new [[PS4]]. The distraction left him ignoring many of his customers' orders, often for months. People who bought video greetings from him would be told by Chris mid-video that he hoped the video wouldn't be late. In [[June 2016]], Chris's Etsy page vanished, and he later stated that [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation]]. It's likely that Etsy took notice after repeated complaints from his customers and banned him from selling.

===Social media profiles===
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In August 2017, Chris was blocked by four women he had been following on social media.

Doopie blocked him from her [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] and [[Patreon]] accounts after Chris repeatedly kept calling her darling, pledged to her Patreons while begging his fanbase for money, spammed her business e-mail with stories about his day while making clumsy attempts at befriending her, blocked her boyfriend on Twitter and continually refused to get it through his head that Doopie was not interested in being his friend. Weens also interfered by spamming her [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] and making fake pledges to her Patreon to view the Rosechu drawing she made for Chris's pledge reward.

Tabitha blocked him from [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] due to [[Weening|weens]] replying to his tweets to her, which resulted in her feed being overrun with spam.

Chris reacted to the blocks by creating [[NightStar2891]], a sockpuppet account. He then tweeted them a hand-written apology letter, calling them "dear" instead of "darling."

Yet again, Doopie informed him that she wasn't going to be his friend and blocked the sockpuppet.

Tabitha later mentioned that she didn't enact her block because of Chris specifically. Chris, observing her messages via NightStar2891, somehow decided that this gave him leeway to send her a 21-tweet message through that account, trying to befriend her. She blocked the sockpuppet as well.

LadyOfTheCosmo, a friend of Doopie's, blocked Chris on [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] after he sent her a tweet referring to her as "dear," then doubled down on using it after she called him out on it is inappropriate.

Nowacking blocked him around 26 August after he replied to her tweets about relationships. A swarm of weens spammed her account with accusations against Chris and told her to block him. She has not commented on her reason for the block.

===Wattpad===
Wattpad is a website for publishing stories. In [[December 2020]], one of the website's members, [[Opuscon789]], who had posted a fanfiction titled ''[[SNT Vs Sonichu]]'', blocked Chris from viewing his account over Chris's reaction to the story. Chris then evaded the block by creating another account in order to continue reading ''SNT Vs Sonichu'', despite hating the story.<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Discussing Opuscon789 and ProjectSNT]]</ref>

===Patreon===
Chris's [[Patreon]] was suspended on 2 [[August 2021]] following the [[Incest Call]] leak.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Patreon Banned Chris]]</ref>

===Tapas===
[[Tapas]] is a comic-hosting website, one which Chris himself used to host his Sonichu comics and linked from his YouTube page. Shortly after his arrest, his comics were blocked for a "violation of community guidelines," either due to the incest allegations or because of the graphic content of some of the issues.

==Discord Servers==
===Sonic World DX===
A [[Discord]] server for ''[[Sonic World]]'', a ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' fangame, which features the ability to use modded characters. Chris was first temporarily kicked from the server for stealing mods without permission.<ref>[[:File:Kicked from Sonic World DX Discord.png]]</ref> Despite being allowed to rejoin the server, Chris was permanently banned after confronting Cirrusfire over the takedown of [[Sonic World#Sonichu Mod (personally_updated)|''Sonichu Mod (personally updated)'']] on GameBanana.<ref>[[:File:SonicWorldDiscordBanned.png]]</ref>

===Official CWCki Server===
Chris was encouraged by [[Watchman]] [[Naught]] to join the [[Official CWCki Server]], which he did on 10 [[August 2020]]. He was banned four days later, with a mod stating this was because "The CWCki's goal is only to document Chris and not provide him a platform to push his agendas. It was never imagined that Chris will use this server to ramble about his fantasies." A separate server, [[cwc frens]], was made for Chris to do just that, but the setup was unfinished, and the link was removed once [[weens]] got a hold of it.

===The Knights of CWC===
A [[Discord]] server of members from the [[Watchmen]] group, [[The Knights of CWC]] was created in [[June 2021]]. On 1 [[August 2021]], following Chris's arrest for [[incest]], admin [[The WCT]] kicked Chris out of the server.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (August 2021)#Watching Chris's Arrest]]</ref>

==Family homes==
===[[14 Branchland Court]]===
That's right, he was banned from his own fucking house.

Following the revelation that Chris had been having [[Affair with Mother|a sexual relationship with his mother]], Greene County [[Jerkop|Police]] conducted a [[welfare check]] at 14 Branchland Court on 30 [[July 2021]]. The police issued an [[Emergency Protective Order]] against Chris, banning him from his house (which is owned by his mother) until 5 August. He was eventually arrested in Richmond on 1 August. In [[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]], Chris mentioned that he is legally prohibited from living in the same house as his mother. It seems likely, however, that he was allowed to return to his previous residence and move various items to [[Lynchburg and Big Island, VA#House|his new house]], or it was possible ban evasion.

===Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom's home===
In the wake of being kicked out of his home for the allegation of committing incest with his mother, Chris tried to make plans to stay with his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] in Richmond; however, they forbade him from doing so before he arrived,<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref> and even told the police that he was not to be allowed onto their property.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Discussing the incest fallout]]</ref>

==Jail facilities==
===Rec room===
Chris liked to practice shooting hoops in the [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] recreation room, mentioning it in a letter from 8 November 2021.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (RadioRabbit0)]]</ref> However, in a letter dated 30 November, Chris wrote that the room had since become restricted to him.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 30 November 2021 (Eels and the Egg-man)]]</ref> This may or may not have been caused by Chris [[Central_Virginia_Regional_Jail#Behavioral_issues|threatening suicide]] in an attempt to gain phone and internet privileges which backfired with additional restrictions. Either way, he did not specify whether this was a punishment.

==See also==
*[[Apology Letters]] (2014)
*[[Unban contracts]] (2016)
*[[Twitter blocks from TF2 Analysis crew]] (2019)
*[[Chris and negotiation]]
*[[Chris and anger]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]

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{{Quote|Please, just forget about me in total; please, disband all online groups and individual hatreds against me; please, remove everything about me off of the Internet, your minds, and your hearts.|[[Chris]], after making a public apology on [[Facebook]].}}

{{Quote|He's malicious! He... he knows that doing these things are wrong, and he doesn't care! Because if he gets away with it, that's all that matters!|[[Null]], recounting a revelation that he had about Chris during their final interaction.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjmy3K7uT8</ref>}}

[[File: Apology.jpg|thumb|Chris's long awaited apology to [[Reldnahc]]]]

Every so often, one of [[Chris]]'s [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|less]] [[Twin Falling Towers|flattering]] deeds catches up with him, and he is forced to apologize. These apologies, like most of the other times Chris tries to come off as emotional, often feel very forced and insincere, leading many [[trolls]] to wonder if Chris is even capable of feeling '''remorse'''.

It's not out of the question. A common trait of [[autism]] is a lack of cognitive empathy, meaning it's likely that Chris has a difficult time trying to understand what other people feel. Time and time again he's shown himself unable to understand others' feelings of [[Chris and death|loss or sadness]]. He seems equally incapable of understanding how his actions could possibly hurt or anger others. Additionally, Chris is also shown to be incapable of sharing the emotional experiences of others, being affected by them, and being able to respond with an appropriate emotion due to his [[narcissism]]. This ultimately shows that Chris is incapable of understanding and feeling other people's emotional states.

When he is expected to show remorse, it often seems as though he is just going through the motions, making the absolute minimum effort to get whoever he has upset to stop pestering him, so he can go back to his oblivious existence playing [[PlayStation 3]].

==Concept of wrongdoing==

Developing an understanding of right and wrong is an important part of a child's development. Very young children don't take into consideration what is ethically the right or wrong thing to do. They base their actions on whether they are punished or rewarded before they eventually internalize a consistent value system and learn to police their own behavior. Chris seems to be stuck in the former, childlike state. If something makes him feel bad, or if experience tells him he'll get in trouble for doing something, it must be wrong. If it makes him feel good or looks like it could have potential rewards, it must be right. Other considerations, such as what his [[Chris and religion|supposed faith]] proscribes or how this will affect others, simply do not rank.

An excellent example would be how Chris managed to destroy his relationship with [[Megan Schroeder]]. Chris was at war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], who were, among other things, calling him [[Homos|gay]]. In an attempt to disprove their allegations, Chris uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a certain image]] to the website, apparently under the belief that that sort of information overload would get them to shut up. When the denizens of ED assumed the image was of Crystal, Chris was quick to correct them. At no point did he even consider Megan's feelings. When she [[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG|called him out]], Chris didn't realize he had done anything wrong and assumed she was upset simply because she didn't watch enough [[Chris and sex|porn]].

{{Quote|I understand. You may or may not have had much exposure to sexual images as I've had, so the idea of a "hand job" (which was the act drawn there) as part of [[Chris and English|outtercourse]] (versus intercourse) was a surprise to you. I'm sorry.|Chris, [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|not getting it at all]].}}

As such, Chris isn't really capable of remorse or a sincere apology. The natural precursor to an apology is the internal realization that one has done something wrong, a realization that Chris's childish, self-centered mindset will not allow him to reach. In his mind, he's done something "wrong" only when the people around him react negatively. Furthermore, as a rule, he assumes that their reaction is just the result of some misunderstanding, reasoning that if he was just given the chance to explain what he was trying to accomplish, they would understand, and all would be forgiven.

Judging by [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|his plea for a hobby store's manager to "forgive and forget"]], it's very likely that Chris still operates on kindergartener-level moral philosophy in that he expects recipients of his apologies to immediately retract their disapproval and let him off the hook (which he might have experienced since it's a common scenario with smaller children and authority figures) despite being a grown adult, not realizing such a thing no longer applies to social situations after a certain point. Given his track record for [[Chris and his ego|selfishness]], [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles|issues with growing up]], and [[Sonic Boom Protests|resistance to change]], that would come as no surprise.

Moreover, Chris doesn't seem to understand that the purpose of an apology is essentially a promise not to repeat whichever negative behavior led to recompense in the first place, instead seemingly interpreting it as [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3#Summary|a magic phrase to clear his slate]] so he can continue his self-serving endeavors unimpeded.

==Motivation to apologize==
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|TL;DR: I'm sorry, now give me money.]]
As explained above, Chris's logic when it comes to matters of right and wrong is almost wholly reactionary. His rationale for apologizing follows the same pattern. He issues them only when made fully aware that he won't get what he wants unless he at least tries to appear genuinely remorseful.

Every apology Chris has ever made can be immediately connected to something Chris wants, and thinks he'll get if he says the magic words "I'm sorry". We almost never have to guess what that thing might be, he almost always mentions his desired goal in the same paragraph, sometimes even in the next sentence.
{{Quote|I wish to apologize to [[Michael Snyder]] for that mistake I made over nine months ago that got me kicked out of The GAMe PLACe... I miss my Friday nights over there… and also... y’all are the only place in town that has, uh, Eye of Judgment cards.|Chris, [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|apologizing in order to buy stuff]].}}
{{Quote|I apologize for the past unformalities[sic] and emotional outbursts in past communications... I ask for 25% of all money... you have and will have made from all [the [[audiobooks]]] you have put together and sold.|Chris, apologizing for sending [[Vivian Gee|Vivian]] a fucking [[Death threats|death threat]] ... [[Chris and reality|so that she'll pay him]].}}
[[File:154-ApologyLetter.jpg|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
Because Chris's apologies spring from this simplistic cause-and-effect mentality, things tend to get interesting when whoever he's issuing them to tells him that all is not well and that he is not forgiven. In [[I am Alive|one notable case]], he admitted to ungentlemanly conduct regarding his feud with [[Asperchu]]. It was a fairly obvious attempt to get [[CWCipedia#CWCipedia advertisements|certain ads removed from the CWCipedia]], but, notably, he announced his intention to kill off the character of [[Simonla Rosechu]], in accordance with [[Evan|her creator's]] wishes. He didn't act quickly enough, and CWCipedia was taken down from the web altogether. Although his anger was understandable, Chris revealed in [[9 February 2010|his next video]] that he had never intended to kill Simonla in the first place, and that the apology was not TRUE and HONEST. We had all suspected as much, but it's nice to get a confirmation once in a while. After CWCipedia returned, he did indeed kill Simonla, but only under pressure, and in the most contrived, dull, yet very lulzy way possible.

The one apology that arguably highlights Chris's insincerity the most is his in-comic apology to the Asperpedia Four, which takes place ''while [[Chris and hypocrisy#"I would have them ESS-acuted!" — Capital Punishment|condemning them to death]]''. The cognitive dissonance this creates would be overwhelming to any sane person, but [[Autism|for some reason]], Chris thought that this ludicrous non-apologetic apology was both okay and that the recipients would accept it as genuine. In that very same issue, in fact, Chris at one point sheds a tear after sealing up the populated [[4-cent garbage.com]] building and destroying it. You know, because faking remorse with crocodile tears ''totally'' justifies mass murder.

Chris's insincerity can also be seen in Chris's misadventures with [[The Wallflower]]. When the shit hit the fan and she cut off all ties with him, he made his usual [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|pathetic display of sorrow]], making it very clear in the process that he had only wanted her for [[sex]]. When his apology failed to work as planned, Chris became very angry and spiteful, and started [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|demanding that she apologize for hurting ''his'' feelings]].

Another came from his apology note on his [[Facebook]] discovered in [[October 2012]]. In it, he seemingly came to the realization that he had massively messed up, that about as many laughs had been gotten from him as possible and that he was sorry for it all happening. Surprisingly, it was a very well-written, unselfish apology that would seem somewhat convincing - right until he demanded that all instances of trolling and [[CWCki|websites]] [[CWCki Forums|dedicated]] [[/cwc/|to]] [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|him]] be stopped and removed, and there was absolutely no mention made of him making any attempt to straighten up. All he wanted was all the bad stuff about him removed so he can feel better about himself. Had he not included that, people might have actually taken him seriously, but, [[nudes|as]] [[28 October 2011|usual]], he had to fuck himself over.
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==Common traits of a CWC apology==

===Explanation===
One recurring element in Chris's admissions of guilt is an explanation of why he did whatever he's apologizing for. The way these speeches are worded often indicates that Chris believes that if we just understood his intentions, we would all agree with him and that nobody would be offended.

A famous example appears in the [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]] video. Chris explains that yes, he videotaped himself performing a selection of disturbing sex acts, but it was all for his sweetheart [[Ivy]], and this evidently renders his actions understandable and acceptable. Supposedly speaking to a young child who was deeply disturbed by his behavior, he tells her that his behavior was perfectly reasonable because he is both an adult and human. This combination of warped logic and an even more warped worldview was a crucial component of his breakthrough into mainstream infamy.

Another good example would be the time he [[Twin Falling Towers|used the worst terrorist attack in American history for an exceedingly bad joke]]. After learning that [[Kacey]] came from a military family, Chris did what was expected of him and made a [[Apology for 9/11 Joke|public apology]]. However, he was more concerned with continuing to slander [[Clyde Cash]] and assuring us he was a [[United States of America|good American]] (although he didn't know the words to his own national anthem)<ref>[[Mumble 7#summary|Mumble Chat 7]]</ref><ref>[[Red Letter CWC Certified Day]]</ref> than with actually expressing remorse and making an attempt at recompense.
[[Image:SnuffOutClyde.jpg|thumb|This looks like a good idea.]]
{{Quote|The joke was mainly directed to how WEAK Clyde Cash was only, I had no idea or intention of offending anyone, other than Clyde, on such a massive world-wide level.|[[Apology_for_9/11_Joke#Apology_image_text|Chris's written apology]].}}

Within the same video, he changed the photoshop he'd done of the World Trade Center towers into birthday candles. That he saw no problem in presenting an image of the two buildings on fire and repeatedly calling them weak while he asserted that he was a good American proves that he [[Slow-in-the-mind|completely missed the point]] of what he was supposed to be apologizing for. He was far more concerned with sullying Clyde's name than with any blowback or offense his comments might have caused.

In at least one case, though, Chris came up with a nonsensical reason related to [[CWCville|his fictional universe]] for something he did wrong [[Chris and reality|as though it would be easily understood by anyone else as truth]]. Specifically, when Chris attempted reparations with [[Mary Lee Walsh]], he explained that by slandering the "real" Mary Lee Walsh via comic villain counterpart, he allowed an evil witch to soil her reputation and that by retconning the "evil" Mary as Slaweel with her being portrayed getting arrested, he expected the "good/real" Mary would accept this so-called "apology" with only a happy ending as a result (not once admitting to violating campus regulations ''countless times'', let alone personally attacking her when she tried to hash things out with him in her office).

===Rationalization===

Chris is incredibly self-righteous. In his mind he is the only decent man left in the world, and everybody else is a stupid, evil [[JERKS|JERK]] whose sole mission in life is to cockblock him because he is [[Autism|special]], and furthermore out of jealousy for his [[Chris and his Ego|many]] [[Chris and reality|"successes"]] in life. This mindset gives Chris all the justification he needs to mistreat others, because as far as he's concerned they're all the bad guys, standing in the way of his [[Love Quest|heroic quest]].

This "Everything I do is right" mindset shows through when he is forced to talk about his prior transgressions. Chris might offer a half-assed apology, simply to conform to the wishes of whoever he's talking to, but it will often be accompanied by a long explanation as to why he ''had'' to do it.

{{Quote|I was wrong... I pretended to be him yet he was the liar. I'm the real deal... So on that one part I was wrong for the right reasons.|Chris, [[I Love You Kacey|almost admitting wrongdoing]].}}

He exhibited this self-righteous attitude many times in the [[CChanSonichuCWC|Liquid Chris]] saga: because he is the TRUE and HONEST Christian, this gave him the right to [[For Kacey from CWC|attempt to steal Liquid's girlfriend by]] [[Kacey Phone Call|pretending to be him]], and then [[SHE IS MINE NOW|gloat about it once he apparently achieved his aim]]. Once again, Chris saw no wrong in this. Since Liquid wronged him by trolling him in the first place, anything he did in response was entirely justified.

Though as it would later turn out, [[Chris and his ego|ego]] is not the only culprit behind Chris rationalizing deeds he should be apologetic for.

For a more recent example, Chris (in the throes of declining mental health) justified himself initiating his affair with Barb by arguing [[Jail Communications|in statements he wrote following his arrest]] that he did it as a form of divine intervention to "purify" his elderly mother of her sins. To pour salt on an open gash, he eventually flat out ''denied'' that his "Soul-Bonding" was ever sexual in nature ([[Incest Call|despite earlier admissions to sexual conduct with his mom existing]]), once again proving that Chris doesn't truly feel remorse for any wrongdoing he commits.

==="Maturing"===

{{quote| I Have Matured.|Chris's catchphrase}}

Ever since the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]], Chris had the tendency to claim that he has not only learned his lesson but that he has also "[[Adult Chronicles|matured]]". More than anything, Chris uses this as an excuse to avoid any kind of responsibility or backlash from trolls, who understandably view him as childish for many of his interests and actions.

==Retraction==

Chris, believing that his actions are always right, nearly always has to be pressured into making any form of apology at all. Most, if not all, of his apology messages, are motivated by the people he [[Fuck Quest|physically desires]] (be they obvious troll or otherwise) or [[Asperchu|desires to appease]], rather than the public outcry he causes, and certainly not by any true sense of guilt. His retraction of an apology is often redundant because nobody believed he was truly remorseful in the first place, and just as hollow as the apology itself, in that Chris is quite happy to lie to [[Chris and his Ego|save face]] or to gain [[china|something he wants]]. For instance, Chris '''finally''' [[02 March 2010|'sincerely' apologized to Alec and Mao]] for his actions towards them on 2 March 2010. However, only a month later, on 8 April, he was talking to [[Jackie_E-mails#Chris's only friends: trolls and his parents|Jackie]] and, in an attempt to gain sympathy from her, claimed that Alec was "trying to one-up [him] for months now".

When trolls hacked his PSN accounts, Chris made [[a near public apology]]. A blatant attempt to get his PSN account back, the apology was, of course, chock full of lies and insincerity.

One of his favorite ways to smite his [[Clyde Cash|invisible internet enemies]] and [[jerkop|real-life foes alike]] is to lay a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] upon them; thinking that he has powers akin to something more along the lines of Wicca, Voodoo, or Goku from [[Dragon Ball Z|DBZ]] than with the [[Chris and religion|Christianity]] he supposedly practices. He only issued the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction]] after [[Kacey|his latest e-girlfriend]] told him that he shouldn't have used the Curse-ye-ha-me-ha in the first place.

Considering that he [[Surfshack Tito (video)|quickly returned]] to his ways of cursing, [[Don't Mess With Me|threatening]], and [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|insulting]] his enemies, the sentiment obviously didn't stick.

==Shifting blame==

When Chris isn't trying to justify the trouble he causes, he usually resorts to blaming others. The most famous example is him blaming [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] for the end of his friendship with [[Megan]], even though it was because of a picture he himself thought up, drew, and then uploaded to his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|article]]. Chris had it literally screamed at him in [[Mumble 3]], but then, as now, he still doesn't know the true reason. The best anyone has ever been able to extract from Chris is that he came on too strong. While technically true, this is a vast understatement that fails to capture the massive amount of fault which lies with Chris (that is to say, all of it).

====The Wallflower====

Chris went to great lengths to keep the knowledge of [[The Wallflower]] away from the slanderous trolls of the Internet. However, he really wanted to credit her in one of his sycophantic Little Big Planet levels. Chris asked Wallflower if she thought it would be safe to credit Wallflower by her FF.net penname. Wallflower agreed as she was unable to find any obvious trails leading from her FF.net account to her Facebook account. Unfortunately for both of them, trolls still managed to find a link between the two accounts within 24 hours of Chris dropping her pen name. After she was linked to the site and promptly horrified by how much of her personal information had been compromised, she politely requested that the article be reworked with her privacy in mind. As much of the information in the original Wallflower article had very little to do with Chris, the request was deemed reasonable and the admins of the CWCki complied.

Frightened and disgusted by what she had found, [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|she broke off all contact with Chris]]. She also clarified to the CWCki admins that they had never dated, never had any kind of relationship beyond casual association, and before her introduction to the CWCki she really didn't know much about him at all. Chris, however, [[Chris and reality|not to be deterred]], proclaimed many times that they had [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|been on several dates]], and [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|"Shared DNA"]], along with enjoying a kiss and massage. Since this would have been Chris's "real" first kiss (aside from "[[Chloe]]", a lie), it was considered important by obsessive CWCki editors to see if he remembers it later (The Wallflower CWCipedia page article was written on April the 19th). However, [[Jackie e-mails Part 2|leaked e-mails from Jackie]] show that by the 10th of April, ''nine days before making this highly suspicious claim'', [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Jackie's_Questionaire_1|Chris had either momentarily forgotten that he had been kissed]], something that would have been a monumental occasion in his life, lied on his CWCipedia about being kissed, or lied to Jackie about ''not'' being kissed (though that is very unlikely). Either way, he still lied about the kiss, although it's ''possible'' he's basing his story on a gross exaggeration of the truth (the two sharing a drinking straw is the current troll favorite for this).

In the month following their "breakup", Chris would go on to blame The Wallflower for [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|having an internet presence at all]]. From Chris's perspective, the whole incident was Wallflower's fault for having a Facebook page for trolls to discover in the first place. Chris repeatedly insisted that ''Wallflower'' was the one who needed to apologize to him (as she had okayed the use of her screen name), despite the fact that putting her screen name in the level was his idea in the first place. More than a year after the debacle, Chris [[Calling Out|made it obvious]] that he believes that the person who should apologize to Wallflower is Surfshack Tito rather than himself.

====Forgetting====

Aside from directly shifting the blame by [[List of Chris's lies|lying]], Chris has been frequently known to "forget" important, critical details of his life, typically memories that either make him either look or feel bad. When [[Jackie E-mails|Jackie]] was flirting with him by e-mails and found out about the CWCki, she asked Chris about cheating on [[Ivy]] with [[Vanessa]], the full details of which are documented right [[Ivy|here]]. Chris, of course, claimed flat out that the whole thing was a troll deception and that Jackie shouldn't believe it. When Jackie informed Chris she found a video of him admitting it and confessing, Chris claimed he [[Jackie E-mails 2#Chris "forgot" he cheated on Ivy|"forgot" this "portion"]].

On [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 27th, 2008|October 27th in 2008]], Chris nervously announced he had found his one true sweetheart; [[Chloe]]. Many things immediately leapt out at the trolls as being lies, including his previous announcements on an [[Chris's Sonichu IRC Chloe Introduction|IRC chat]]. Due to Chris's unreliable short-term memory and inaction on the part of [[trolls]], after the 27 October video Chloe was never mentioned again in a video by Chris. A little more than a year later, in [[Mailbag 13]], rather than simply admit he was lying, Chris claimed "I currently have no recollection of a Chloe", even though she was supposedly the woman he had his first real kiss with.

In [[Mumble 6#On The Transgender Community|Mumble 6]], the troll army called out Chris on his statements regarding transgendered women. Chris claims that he forgot his previous statement, which may or may not be completely honest. In any event, Chris has discovered that (real or otherwise) a faulty memory is a socially acceptable way to dodge probing questions about one's past lies.

== Index of Chris's apologies ==

Below is an abridged list of Chris's various apologies for his many, many misdeeds. Small apologies may have been missed here and there, but these are the big ones.

* When Megan [[Megan Emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG|called Chris out on his reprehensible actions]] regarding the porn he drew of her, he first [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris apologizes for something, what could it be?|copy-pasted "Megan, I'm sorry for hurting you."]] fifteen times in an e-mail to her, then [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|went into detail about how a handjob works]], figuring that [[virgin with rage|sexual frustration]] and [[naive|ignorance]] were the root causes of her [[Chris and anger|anger]]. Yeah, about that...
* After Chris was banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he tried several times to get unbanned. The first was [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|a video where Chris apologies just so he can buy more junk]]. The [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|second]] was where he prepared a script, stashed a camera in his pocket, then walked into The Game Place to confront [[Michael Snyder]], claiming he had changed and apologizing for his actions. After Michael flatly refused to listen and called the cops, Chris berated him and hoped God would forgive him for being so "heartless and cruel". Mike responded "He probably will", and Chris stormed out, but not before calling him a Jew.
* After threatening [[Vivian]]'s life when she made better [[audiobooks]] than he did, Chris apologized to her... then made a demand for a cut of her "profits", the two sentences separated by only a single dot.
* Chris made an [[A near public apology|apology video]] after [[CWC Calls Out Three Naïve YouTubers|releasing a series of videos insulting various YouTubers.]] Aside from sounding half-assed and insincere about it, Chris's motivation for doing so was clear: his PSN account was being held hostage by the last YouTuber he had insulted.
* In [[I am Alive]], Chris apologizes for his ungentlemanly conduct in regard to Asperchu. This was a transparent attempt to get the [[homo]] ads removed from the [[CWCipedia]] and his behavior [[9 February 2010|subsequent]] to this apology proved he meant nothing he said in the video.
* In [[Sonichu 10]], Chris apologized to the Asperchu Four ''while simultaneously having them brutally executed'', including having one of them killed by a [[Sandy|toddler]].
* After [[April 16 Fetish Vids|filming himself performing sex acts for Ivy]], Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|apologized for his actions]], supposedly to a [[Ching Chong|young girl]] who had found the footage and was scarred by it. But he structured his apology to state that his behavior was, in fact, completely normal and that she shouldn't feel bad for watching it.
* In [[Matthew 5 27, CWC Confessions]], Chris apologized for cheating on [[Ivy]].
* In 2009, Chris apologized to [[Mary Lee Walsh]]... for slandering her via his fictionalized villainous counterpart using her name (not for his actively defiant and vindictive behavior towards her, mind you). The contradictory nature of the [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retcon]] aside, Chris drew up a picture depicting this very act of remorse and even went to the trouble of ''delivering a hand-framed copy to her office'', to which she responded with legal action. [[Mailbag_26#Mary_Lee_Walsh_trolls_IRL|Chris took this as well as you'd expect]].
* After [[Twin Falling Towers|mocking the worst act of terrorism]] in United States history, Chris made a subsequent [[Apology for 9/11 Joke|apology video]]...which featured the Twin Towers as candles on a birthday cake, complete with multiple gouts of flame flying from the top.
* When [[Kacey]] discovered Chris had pretended to be the [[Liquid Chris|other, better Chris]] in order to get a travel visa to [[China]], Chris apologized by way of his video [[I Love You Kacey]], where he claimed he "...was wrong for the right reasons."
* Chris '''finally''' [[02 March 2010|'sincerely' apologized to Alec and Mao]] for his actions towards them on the 2nd of March. However, only a month later on the 8th of April, he was talking to [[Jackie E-mails#Chris's only friends: trolls and his parents|Jackie]] and, in an attempt to gain sympathy from her, claimed that Alec was "trying to one-up [him] for months now".
*On 21 [[October 2012]], Chris posted a public [[Facebook]] status [[Facebook#Please forgive me!|apologizing]] for past misdeeds. He immediately asked that all online groups and "individual hatreds" be disbanded.
* On 17 [[December 2014]], [[Apology Letters‎|three letters]] were leaked on the CWCki Forums that Chris wrote to the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], [[Wal-Mart]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Naturally, in each one, he shoehorns in references to [[troll]]s causing [[stress]].
* On 29 [[October 2015]], Chris uploaded a [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.|YouTube video]] explaining his apology for his prior homophobia. However, barely 1 minute into the video, he stressed the importance of [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] being straight, showing a facet of his old self that hadn't truly disappeared completely.
* On 20 [[December 2020]], Chris was forced to apologize for being accused of stealing mods (which was backed by evidence). Chris, being controlled by Sonichu Prime denounces these claims yet "apologizes" anyway, owing to the issues being due to him still learning about modding and using Blender. He ended the tirade by telling the haters to be grateful and stop badmouthing him.
* On 24 [[September 2021]], in a [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|letter]] dated five days prior, Chris stated that he intended to enact 'repentance' for his crime of stealing 750 dollars from his aging mother's bank account - a crime he attempted to rationalize only moments before by citing his own poor finances and his fears arising from being made temporarily homeless, and for which he attempted to shift blame by claiming that Null had personally betrayed his trust and failed his 'destined test' by alerting others of his act of theft. Not a word was spared for [[Affair with Mother|certain other offenses]], just as recent and even more damning.

==Conclusion==

To Chris, remorse is nothing more than a formality that he must pantomime in order to get what he wants. Chris rarely, if at all, ever feels guilt for something he has said or done and expects either pity and sympathy or for those he hurt to forgive and forget. If you expect that he would ever be sincerely sorry for anything he does without an ulterior motive behind it, you are expecting way too much of him.

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Imaginary family

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[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris with his "children", "grandchildren", a fictious [[Transformers|Transformer]], and his real-life parents.]]

Chris has numerous '''imaginary family members''' that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex|benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family. Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

[[file:chrisansestore.jpg|thumb| Native American Representation]]

The leader of the [[Cherokian Clan]] is a fictional ancestor of Chris, originating from Chris’s belief that he is part Cherokee, which was disproven in 2018 after Chris took a 23andme dna test.

The character is a Caucasian [[Chris and race|Aryan]] man wearing a Roman chest plate Halloween costume, showing how little Chris knew about the people he supposedly descended from. The character looks identical to Chris, who is meant to be his reincarnation.

He first makes an appearance in episode 7 of sonichu #2, introducing himself as Chris’s ancestor, tells him to kill [[Count Graduon]], and gives him his sonichu powers.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)}}

==Patti-Chan==
[[file:Patti-Chancard.jpg|thumb|Right|He couldn't let her rest now, did he?]]
{{Main|Patti-Chan}}

'''Patti Chandler''' (17 March [[1988]] - 27 [[June 2006]]) was [[Chris]]'s childhood dog, a {{w|Beagle}}-{{w|spitz}} mix who was put down in [[2006]], then brought back as a character in CWCville. Patti grew up with Chris and was the closest thing he had to a sibling, since his [[Cole Smithey| half brother]] wanted nothing to do with his family. In a phone call with [[Clyde Cash]], Chris compares the death of Clyde’s brother to the death of Patti, offending Clyde. Chris defended this by stating that Patti was like a sibling.

Chris brought Patti back to life in [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' 6]] as [[Patti-Chan]] (a character created by [[Megan Schroeder]] to help Chris [[Chris and coping|cope]] with the loss of his beloved pet), where she somehow gained the ability to walk, talk, and apply for [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]] in [[CWCville]].

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for [[Sonichu 0 HD|Sonichu #0 HD]], he made Sonichu call him "Mother" to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line, with Chris performing several [[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu|sexual]] [[Sonichu 13#Chris and Sonichu rape each other|acts]] on him due to the influence of the trolls, most notably, the [[Idea Guys]].

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)}}

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''Maybe.''' Although it would probably require a fair bit of luck and the kid is likely to come out being [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]].

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding [[Fiona|a willing female]]. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|once Chris began using HRT in sessions]], Chris destroyed what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at near 0%. While he is on the medication, we can't be quite sure if he is taking it regularly or in the right amounts.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world,<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Need my daughter]]</ref> but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up, and he was under distress due to the manipulation of the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced him that [[Cryzel Torture|they would only stop torturing his imaginary wife if he made the sex tape]]. That being said, some later [[Incest Texts|text-based details]] of ambiguous authenticity during [[Affair with Mother|Chris's "soul-bonding" with his mother]] in 2021 suggested that he used his penis to have sex with Barb. Although Barb was long since infertile at that point, Chris allegedly wore a condom anyway. It's probably for the better though, as the last thing we need in this world are Barb and Chris having zombie children.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth,<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> although he seemingly dropped the idea in the following years, wishing to remain with his genitals for some unknown reason. Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a male-to-female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]] and he prefers buying [[Transformers]] anyway.

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref> Amen.

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question, then you really don't know anything about Chris. Parenting is an enormous task that takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his [[Borb|own parents]]. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he can't be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years when they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example, can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|himself]]? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in lieu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal is expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris, Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have [[Praetor|a group of exploiters]] taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his livestream money and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

Also, not to put too fine of a point on it, Chris has [[Chris and anger|virtually no aptitude for self-control and anger management whatsoever]]. Even if you were to argue that past conflicts have proven he is way too passive to assault anyone physically (one lone case apiece of [[28 October 2011|vehicular assault]] and [[26 December 2014|use of pepper spray notwithstanding]]), he'll just as easily settle for verbal outbursts and exaggerated temper tantrums in general, which can be scarring to a child as well. As documented, Chris ''did'' have a tendency to lose his temper at the smallest provocation and direct it towards young kids during the time he went to [[The GAMe PLACe]] on weekends, which (among other bad habits) eventually led to [[Michael Snyder|the manager]] banning him permanently<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris's ban from the store]]</ref> (in fact, what prompted such was Chris getting into a heated verbal dispute with a young card gamer<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post]]</ref>). Top that off with Chris's insistence that [[Chris and ego|everything he does is doing the right thing]] (even when it's demonstrably unacceptable) and his [[Chris and remorse|near-inability to empathize with others nor acknowledge his errors]] (only attempting to apologize if he thinks he will get something he wants in exchange for doing so) and you have a recipe for what would be ''at best'' a strained relationship between Chris and his hypothetical child(ren), if not them escaping and preventing further contact with him altogether (as his half-brother [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] did with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother|mother and her child]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with one's own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful) [[Pedofork|because children are]] [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|not able to consent to sex]].

In short, if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected, abused, and/or [[Chris_and_death#Imaginary_friends|dead]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]

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{{Fantasies}}
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Chris and introspection

2025-05-23T17:22:09Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Self-Hatred */

{{Incomplete|Complete sections on Self-Awareness, Perseveration, and Self-Projection}}
{{Stub}}
{{Quote|I have been slowly but surely mentally, and emotionally, and spiritually- [flips over the Sonichu medallion] been maturing. [dramatic sigh]|Chris.<ref>[[Grounded Deep Response]]</ref>}}
'''Introspection''' involves the examination of one's own inner workings and past actions, typically to make more well-informed decisions in the future.<ref>{{w|Introspection}}</ref> Possibly as a result of his [[autism]], which affects how he perceives how his actions affects others, combined with his inflated ego, Chris has been noted for lacking the ability to do any sort of true reflection upon himself or to take accountability his actions. Chris then winds up making the same mistakes and blunders over and over and over again, and Christory is doomed to repeat itself.

Chris believes that he is a blameless, [[Chris and religion|holy]] creature that is [[Mary Poppins|practically perfect in every way]]. However, he sees plenty of flaws in the world around him that cause him [[stress]], never once thinking that his behavior might be the problem. He blames all of his problems on external factors like [[trolls]], [[homos]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracies]] or the [[JERKS|entire male population]]. In the past he's faulted the [[Jerkop|police]], [[Manajerks|store managers]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Jerkop|mall security guards]] for complications during his [[Love Quest]]. When Chris can't fault other people for his problems, he relies on autism and stress as fallback excuses.

==Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge==
Part of one's understanding of themselves is the awareness of their character, thoughts, and actions, and how they affect other people. Chris is noted for his utterly [[Chris and his ego|warped image of himself]], also being highly sensitive to how other people see him to the point where [[Affirmations List|he sometimes focuses on "positives" about himself]] and expects everyone around him to do the same.

Also, because he is accustomed to seeing himself as a helpless innocent victim of others' cruelty (for "reasons" that amount to imaginary desires on others' part to aggrieve him simply for the sake of it), he at best virtually or at worst flat out doesn't acknowledge that something he did caused the conflict in the first place. For example, when Chris refused to accept being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he ''barely'' admitted to doing something negative (i.e. [[100 2261.MOV|shouting from stress]] and [[Jackie E-mails#Chris hates authority|writing an insulting message on the side of a card box]]) that got himself shown the door while [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|other accounts]] revealed that Chris was openly hostile, bigoted and generally obnoxious to fellow patrons and card game players.

==Self-Hatred==
{{See also|Chris and remorse}}
Chris has a tendency to express regret towards past happenings in his life, to the point of seeing his past, "Classic" self in a very negative light. However, when (much less if) he tries expressing remorse, it comes across as hollow and insincere, especially given Chris obviously wants to appease whoever he has upset and/or gain something desired in return over trying to better himself and avoid repeating the same mistakes.

Furthermore, Chris tends to focus on or contrive reasons why something went wrong that differ from what happened and what he should ''actually'' be apologizing for, such as when Chris believed [[Megan Schroeder]] [[Megan emails, 2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|misunderstood the sexual act he depicted]] (rather than being rightfully disgusted that she was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|featured in pornographic artwork without her consent]]) or that he owed [[Mary Lee Walsh]] an apology just for depicting her as a villain in his comics, without acknowledging that he both flouted campus rules ''and'' foolishly put her on the receiving end of aggression (in that order).

==Victim Complex==

==Self-Projection==
{{Main|Chris and hypocrisy}}

==Stance on Being Transgender==
Chris considers being [[transgender|trans]] as being one of the most introspective moments of his life.

==See Also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Chris and his ego]]
*[[Chris and mental healthcare]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]
*[[Meditation]]

{{References}}
{{Chris and}}

Chris and introspection

2025-05-21T17:06:40Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge */

{{Incomplete|Complete sections on Self-Awareness, Perseveration, and Self-Projection}}
{{Stub}}
{{Quote|I have been slowly but surely mentally, and emotionally, and spiritually- [flips over the Sonichu medallion] been maturing. [dramatic sigh]|Chris.<ref>[[Grounded Deep Response]]</ref>}}
'''Introspection''' involves the examination of one's own inner workings and past actions, typically to make more well-informed decisions in the future.<ref>{{w|Introspection}}</ref> Possibly as a result of his [[autism]], which affects how he perceives how his actions affects others, combined with his inflated ego, Chris has been noted for lacking the ability to do any sort of true reflection upon himself or to take accountability his actions. Chris then winds up making the same mistakes and blunders over and over and over again, and Christory is doomed to repeat itself.

Chris believes that he is a blameless, [[Chris and religion|holy]] creature that is [[Mary Poppins|practically perfect in every way]]. However, he sees plenty of flaws in the world around him that cause him [[stress]], never once thinking that his behavior might be the problem. He blames all of his problems on external factors like [[trolls]], [[homos]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracies]] or the [[JERKS|entire male population]]. In the past he's faulted the [[Jerkop|police]], [[Manajerks|store managers]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Jerkop|mall security guards]] for complications during his [[Love Quest]]. When Chris can't fault other people for his problems, he relies on autism and stress as fallback excuses.

==Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge==
Part of one's understanding of themselves is the awareness of their character, thoughts, and actions, and how they affect other people. Chris is noted for his utterly [[Chris and his ego|warped image of himself]], also being highly sensitive to how other people see him to the point where [[Affirmations List|he sometimes focuses on "positives" about himself]] and expects everyone around him to do the same.

Also, because he is accustomed to seeing himself as a helpless innocent victim of others' cruelty (for "reasons" that amount to imaginary desires on others' part to aggrieve him simply for the sake of it), he at best virtually or at worst flat out doesn't acknowledge that something he did caused the conflict in the first place. For example, when Chris refused to accept being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he ''barely'' admitted to doing something negative (i.e. [[100 2261.MOV|shouting from stress]] and [[Jackie E-mails#Chris hates authority|writing an insulting message on the side of a card box]]) that got himself shown the door while [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|other accounts]] revealed that Chris was openly hostile, bigoted and generally obnoxious to fellow patrons and card game players.

==Perseveration==
{{See also|Chris and remorse}}
Chris has a tendency to express regret towards past happenings in his life, to the point of seeing his past, "Classic" self in a very negative light.

==Self-Projection==
{{Main|Chris and hypocrisy}}

==Stance on Being Transgender==
Chris considers being [[transgender|trans]] as being one of the most introspective moments of his life.

==See Also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Chris and his ego]]
*[[Chris and mental healthcare]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]
*[[Meditation]]

{{References}}
{{Chris and}}

The GAMe PLACe

2025-05-17T14:46:33Z

FurryChristorian789: Thought this heading should be fixed, given Bob is also mentioned

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from August 2011 until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995.

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant racism with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and another patron were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Niggos|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:

{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he put together his decks. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
The [[2013 Imgur Leak]] revealed [http://i.imgur.com/mBFcon9.png a post] that would elaborate more on this development. Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also called for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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Chris and nutrition

2025-03-02T04:30:37Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Hydration and water consumption */

{{Needs Updating|[[November 2023 social media posts#Weight]]}}

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[[File:ChrisMadeANaco.jpg|thumb|A soft shell taco topped with tortilla chips. Straight out of ''Kim Possible''.]]
Food is both a [[sex|biological imperative]] and a [[art|cultural medium]] for humans. The human body is meant to run on a wide variety of foodstuffs for a balanced diet, and cultures around the world have created a multitude of dishes using available ingredients, mostly from animal and plant sources. More recently, however, food has become industrialized, which makes food cheaper and tastier, to the love of our hero, [[Chris]]. Unfortunately, this industrial Western diet doesn't always carry the best '''nutrition'''.

==Cooking abilities==
{{Dated|Events after house fire}}
Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti (an incredibly basic dish, mind you) in a YouTube video, he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

In a [[August 2017]] letter written to [[Kelly Sheridan]], Chris claimed to have taken up basic cooking skills as a way to keep his mind more active.<ref>[[Chris's letter to Kelly Sheridan‎‎]]</ref>

In addition, [[Barb]] stopped cooking for Chris after he and [[Bob]] had turned down a spaghetti meal she had offered them<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref>, a turn-down he claimed to have "deeply apologized" for, making it even less likely that Chris eats anything that requires to be cooked, let alone anything that requires time and preparation to be made.

==Fast Food==

{{Main|List of restaurants}}

As a result of his minimal cooking skills, and due to how even the simplest of tasks [[Chris and work|tire him out]], Chris often prefers to eat out over making food by himself. He is an infamous fast food lover, eating at either [[McDonald's]], [[Burger King]] or some other fast food restaurant at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a [[Kiwi Farms]] user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

==Consumption of food==

[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris eats at multiple fast food restaurants, visiting McDonald's 10 times in 13 days, eating at other chains as well in the same documented period.]]
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily. Occasionally, he mixes them with [[Semen|a special ingredient]].]]

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general (as well as his tendency to lie).

During the [[Father Call]], Chris told [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. He claimed he stopped taking the drug in fall 2009, but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

When Chris admits to going to McDonald's regularly for his meals (including the time in the father call) he will often fall back on another lie that he only eats the salads provided and drink the lemonade. This is ironic as McDonald's salads were actually proven to contain ''more'' calories than an average Big Mac meal, due to the sauce that came with them. Chris also seems to be under the impression that lemonade is healthy because it has (or at least tastes vaguely like) lemons despite them being just as unhealthy as any other type of soda.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos under the false believe that they would improve his health. He liked videos such as "Lose Weight Super Fast!", "Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!", "Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment", and "[[Fart Song|Produce Odorless Farts Fast!]]". There is no sort of scientific and medical evidence that proves listening to binaural beats can do these things – the only real health effect is hearing loss if listened to at a high volume, and maybe a headache.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Quinn.27s missing out|Quinn's missing out!]]</ref> This marks one of the only times that Chris has admitted that he has [[Obesity]] issues.

In 2019, Chris showed us his idea of a "salad", mostly made with unhealthy ingredients like bacon bits and croutons.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan eats a .22salad.22]]</ref>

In 2020, Chris claimed to make breakfast omelettes/scrambled eggs with ghost pepper sauce or spinach.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

In October 2023, Chris posted photos of his snack bowl, consisting of fruits, a large chunk of dark chocolate, and a liberal amount of what appears to be whipped topping. Chris touted the vitamin benefits of the fruits among the snacks, but unfortunately for him, the nutritional benefit is outweighed by the excessive amount of sugars contained in the bowl.<ref>[[October 2023 social media posts#Chocolate and fruits]]</ref>

==Jail food==
Since the [[Jail Saga]] saw Chris incarcerated for quite a while, it's safe to assume he broke his long standing policy of [[28 October 2011|not eating prison food]] and entered the regular diet alongside all the other jail inmates. Chris stated that he liked the selection of food items the jail had for sale.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)]]</ref>

In an [[October 2021]] letter, Chris discussed the quality of the meals by writing that the "Food's mostly good and well; not perfect meatballs (Banquet Dinners have better meatballs), and chicken is often dry."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

As of 3 [[May 2022]] (following his three month stay at [[Western State Hospital]]), his weight noticeably dropped since he was unable to exploit the "begging for junk food money" loophole he once had access to, and his final mugshot taken upon his release on 27 [[March 2023]] showed him having shed even more pounds. After exiting incarceration, Chris has regained all of his lost weight, especially underneath his neck.

==Hydration and water consumption==
[[File:Water and Dasani.jpeg|150px|thumb|Chris's water bottle and a Dasani bottle.]]
[[File:Anti corona device.jpg|200px|thumb|What Chris actually believes manifests his "powers" in our world.]]

Before 2020, Chris rarely drank water and focused a lot more on [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]).<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772143]</ref> This was such that an entire page of the CWCki is [[My Coke Rewards|partly dedicated to just how much Coca-Cola he drank over the span of two years]].

The earliest known case of this was Chris [[A Week With Christian Chandler|documenting in one of his high school senior year projects]] that on the way to [[Card games#Books-A-Million|Books-A-Million]] to play a children's trading card game, he would stop at a gas station to "fill his sports bottle with some refreshing soda pop"<ref>A Week With Christian Chandler#Page 2</reF>. It's very possible he did this once every week and that it was a starting point for his health issues in the intervening years.

On many of the days between 6 March 2007 and 4 September 2009, Chris drank about 1.8 liters (over 3 pints) of Coke ''every day'' (assuming that none of it was drunk by his equally [[obese]] [[Borb|parents]]), so he could gain points on My Coke Rewards. This represents a grotesque 195 grams (nearly 7 ounces) of sugar per day from Coke alone, representing almost ''800'' calories (1/3 of his daily calorie intake). To put that in perspective, Chris drank enough Coke to fill ''10 oil barrels'' in order to get the amount of points he got. [[30 Push-Ups|Needless to say]], the effects are staggering. On record, he apparently consumed a whopping 120 cans of cola on 9 April 2008, 24 March 2009, and 15 August 2009; how this didn't send him into immediate diabetic shock is anybody's guess.

Before his arrest in [[July 2021]], Chris drank tons of water from a Glacee water bottle with an [[Magic stones|amethyst crystal]] inside. He believes that there are many health problems that drinking water in this fashion alone can cure, such as food poisoning. While this is not actually true, it's at least far healthier than drinking tons of soft drinks. Ever since the discovery of himself being Goddess CPU Blue Heart, he had used this bottle constantly as a way to charge up his "powers", in order to help further the merge into its future stages. The reason he went with the amethyst crystal is most likely the same reason that he uses his [[Amnyfest Ring]] in the comics as his main source of power. So, therefore, Chris used this bottle as a way to inadvertently makes his powers stronger.

As of 2023, Chris has developed an interest in the popular energy drink G Fuel, likely because the brand is known to constantly release flavors in partnership with various gaming/media franchises, an unsurprising example being that [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart (July)|he was seen looking at]] [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]-themed G Fuel cans [[Post-jail sightings|during a post-jail release shopping trip]]. Given the canned drink has an average of 300 mg of caffeine (equivalent to about 3 cups of coffee), it's likely Chris may soon slip back into erratic behavior patterns.

==Results of Chris's Diet==
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===Obesity===
{{Main|Obesity}}
[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him. It didn't work.]]

Chris has been overweight for all or nearly all of his adult life, and obese for a large portion of it.

===Dental hygiene===

Chris's [[Fangs|teeth]] have obviously suffered greatly during the decades of constant sugary abuse. Several videos which he exposes his teeth have revealed that his molars are extremely rotten and full of cavities while his frontal teeth are yellowish at best and an olive colour at worst. This combined with his infamous lack of hygienic prowess means that it's flat out a miracle that all his teeth haven't fallen out at this point.

===Behavioral issues===

Caffeine is a well known [[Anger|stimulant]] and can impair ones ability to [[Biological Clock|sleep]]. Chris's drinks all have plenty of caffeine in them, from coffee to [[Coca-Cola]]. Chris is undoubtedly addicted to both, and cups of coffee were spotted throughout the hallway in [[14 Branchland Court]] just before the coffee ''maker'' [[2014 house fire|burned the entire house down]].

===Fecal incontinence===
{{Main|DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS}}

It is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his fecal incontinence (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence.<ref>{{w|Fecal incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia.}}</ref> Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how long. Irritable bowel syndrome may be another reason for Chris's problems with controlling his bowels. The cause of IBS is not known, but two major triggers are [[stress]] and poor diets, with wheat, dairy, and carbonated drinks being known IBS triggers.<ref>Mayo Clinic: [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360016 Irritable bowel syndrome]</ref> Chris has given testament to fast-food not agreeing with him.<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Whopperito]]</ref> However, being raised on a poor diet, it's unlikely he'll stop eating junk anytime soon.

{{clear}}

==Denial of poor diet==

Chris often denies his diet is doing more harm to him than good. In the [[Father Call]], Chris constantly lies about his poor eating habits to an unimpressed Matthew Devoria. At one point, [[Autism|he went off on a tangent]] about how he stuffed vegetables and fruits down his throat; this was after Matt metaphorically compared [[Kacey|his daughter]]'s book reading to how much candy Chris probably consumes.

==References==
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{{Chris and}}
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The GAMe PLACe

2025-02-24T22:28:59Z

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{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from August 2011 until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995.

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant racism with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and another patron were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
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[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Niggos|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban (later noting on YouTube, that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y YouTube comment by Mike (TheRcholic).]</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:

{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Barb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
The [[2013 Imgur Leak]] revealed [http://i.imgur.com/mBFcon9.png a post] that would elaborate more on this development. Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also called for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

{{Notes}}
{{References}}

==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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Charlottesville Fashion Square

2025-02-24T22:25:21Z

FurryChristorian789:

[[Image:FashionSquareMallExternal.jpg|thumb|200px|External view of Charlottesville Fashion Square, [[January 2010]].]]
[[File:GardenSquareMall2015.jpg|thumb|200px|The mall entrance, [[April 2015]].]]
[[Image:Fashionsquareretail399 thumb.jpg|thumb|200px|Image from inside the mall.]]
[[Image:TheFaSquareRegion.jpg|thumb|200px|The mall's main rotunda, [[January 2018]].]]
[[File:FashionSquareJan2023.jpeg|thumb|200px|The mall on life support in late [[January 2023]]. Notice the wreath despite the holiday season being over for nearly a month at the time of capture.]]

'''Charlottesville [[Chris and fashion|Fashion]] Square''' was a shopping [[mall]] and one of the original venues for [[Chris]]'s [[Love Quest]] exploits. Like all of his "[[Attraction Location]]s", it didn't do much for him, as his behavior led to several run-ins with its management and security personnel, ultimately resulting in a [[List of places that have banned Chris|ban]] from the mall. Owing to the mall's popularity with Chris as a social and Attraction Location, it has since became a place of hallowed ground among [[trolls]], [[weens]] and [[CWCki|Christorians]] alike. It closed in [[2025]], exceeding [[The GAMe PLACe]] in terms of Chris' longest ban-to-closure period (just less than thirteen years compared to six years from The GAMe PLACe).

==Chris and the Fashion Square==
Chris was first introduced to [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] at the Fashion Square Sears in "mid to late [[1991]]", playing a demo version of the original ''Sonic the Hedghehog'' Sega Genesis game there.<ref>[[Cwclight#First Sonic the Hedgehog drawing by JCWCSP]]</ref>

It was in this mall where Chris met [[Anna McLerran|Anna]] and "[[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer]]" got its start.

It was also where he had his heart smashed down to 15% by [[Hanna]], and presumably where he (accompanied by [[Bob Chandler|his father]]) went on his "date" with [[Emily]], who was later rescued by [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]. It's safe to say that, at one point, a large portion of Chris's time spent outside the house was at this mall.

Due to the numerous misadventures he has had there, this place holds a significant role in Christory – and has since become something of a pilgrimage location for the CWC community at large. Be sure to say "hi" to [[ScotPalazzo|the manager]] should you ever visit!

==Chris vs. Fashion Square==
Chris has gotten himself into trouble at Fashion Square on a number of occasions over the years.

On 5 August [[2004]], according to [[CWC's Diary]], Chris's attempts to fish for a girlfriend with a [[Red String of Fate]] were cut short by a [[jerkop]] who destroyed that particular Love Quest accessory. A month later, on 6 September, he had another run-in with a security guard who was apparently treated to a rendition of Chris's "Lonesome Virgin story".

11 September 2004 saw Chris's first partial ban from the mall, forbidding him from returning without a parent to accompany him. His diary doesn't explain exactly why he was banned, but [[Sub-Episode 1|Sub-Episode #1]] dramatizes the day's events. Reading between the lines of the comic book version, Chris was loitering and soliciting with his [[Attraction Sign]], became belligerent with security, and was arrested and removed from the mall.

Chris was apparently able to return to the mall unaccompanied by the next spring. On 29 March 2005, the infamous date with Hanna took place, after which Chris emitted an anguished "NOOOOOOOO" that led him to being banned from the mall once again.<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat#ban|Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie e-mails part 2#ban|Jackie E-mails - Part II]]</ref> [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]] indicates that the ban (which again prevented Chris from going to the mall without a parent) was still in effect towards the end of 2008.

According to the reports of a field agent, Chris was seen sperging at the mall accompanied by his parents in the summer of 2010. Subsequently, on 31 August 2010, he was spotted (and filmed) hanging out at the mall alone. This suggests that either the bans have expired, or Chris has managed to [[Flipnote Hatena|evade yet another ban]].

In early 2012, Chris's leaked [[Facebook statuses]] revealed that he had returned to loitering at the mall on a regular basis. His "normal plan" at the mall, according to the leaks, is to "sit, hang and wait for a Ms. Right".

On 4 February, he managed to get himself in trouble again, by leaving flyers decrying [[Michael Snyder]] around the mall. A security guard found them and attempted to speak to Chris about them. Chris then fled the mall and drove away.

On 31 March, he managed to get himself in trouble for a second time this year, this time by yelling on his phone towards his trolls. Security guards came to confront Chris, but he ended up fleeing the mall once more.

On 28 April, Chris released a [[April 2012 Facebook posts#Maniacal Laughter from Who now? Oh, wait, It Is ME! >8D|Facebook message]] stating that, on the 25th of April, he had received the ban-hammer for getting angry in the mall when he answered some calls from the trolls.

On 15 [[August 2014]], Chris wrote an [[Apology Letters‎|apology letter]] in an attempt to get his ban lifted. The letter has Chris blaming [[troll]]s and [[stress]] for his misdeeds, and asking the manager to allow him and [[Catherine]] to shop there.

On [[26 December 2014]], Chris attempted to evade his ban from the [[GameStop]] there and ([[Chris and fashion|dressed like a clown]]) tried to vandalize the store's ''Sonic Boom'' display. When he failed and staff made a move to call security, Chris left, but not before macing an employee. With the police called in, Chris somehow evaded arrest at the mall. Reports from a police radio mention that Chris was still banned from the mall at that point.

On 20 [[March 2018]], Chris again [[March 2018 trespass charge|trespassed at the mall]] and was charged. As a result he was sentenced to the [[Therapeutic Docket]], resulting in the charge ultimately being dropped.

On 20 [[September 2020]], Chris yet again went to the mall, but was not caught. He later remarked about the decline of the mall, noting that more than half of its stores were still open but that the JCPenney was closing. He also called it a "gyp" that the GameStop in Forest Lakes had closed yet the one in the mall - and site of his macing incident - remained open.<ref>[[The Place chats (September 2020)#Downtown Mall and Fashion Square]]</ref>

==Closure==
Malls have been declining as a whole since the [[2010s]] due to the increasing popularity of online shopping websites like Amazon and [[eBay]], and the effects of the [[COVID-19]] pandemic have certainly not helped matters. Charlottesville Fashion Square is no exception; throughout the late 2010s, several stores in the mall closed due to dwindling customers, while some of the mall's biggest tenants like Sears went bankrupt, leaving the mall with big chunks of unleased space. While it still operates, with 16 stores, restaurants and booths still open, it is a shell of its former self, with the only two "anchor locations" left being two Belk stores.

The mall was at risk of closure in [[February 2020]], having defaulted on $45.2 million of loans.<ref>https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/fashion-square-mall-facing-imminent-default-analysts-say/article_3ac06a61-626f-5f64-bbaa-4953c3c815a0.html</ref> In response to this news, Chris wrote on [[Twitter]], "Well, this is most disappointing. Very Much a LEGEND, in association with myself and my history: Charlottesville’s own #FashionSquareMall is falling on hard times and may become lost. I feel mildly distressed from this event."<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

On 13 [[June 2021]], Washington Prime Group, the owners of Charlottesville Fashion Square, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, citing the COVID-19 pandemic as the main reason.<ref>https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/14/business/washington-prime-group-mall-bankruptcy/index.html</ref> The mall was later auctioned to a local lending company a few days later. <ref>https://dailyprogress.com/business/local/watch-now-fashion-square-mall-auctioned-to-lender-for-20-2-million/article_15ea6df2-e67b-11eb-9274-0bff086e95e0.html</ref>

In [[September 2022]], The Home Depot purchased a large chunk of the mall, save for the Belk woman's store and JCPenney. Two years later, they would announce their plans to demolish the former Sears space to begin construction on a new Home Depot store, construction of which began in [[September 2024]] and is set to open in [[July 2025]]. The mall's fate was sealed in [[January 2025]] when its remaining tenants had their leases terminated.<ref>https://www.29news.com/2025/01/24/leases-terminated-store-owners-fashion-square-mall/</ref> The Fashion Square closed its doors for the final time on the 31st of January.<ref>https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/business/the-fall-of-fashion-square/article_7894557e-e403-11ef-9a47-17a1649a4818.html</ref>

==Comic references==
===[[Sub-Episode 1|Sub-Episode #1]]: "Jerkop-tastropie"===
Dramatization of Chris getting busted by [[jerkop|mall security]] for loitering.

===[[Sub-Episode 2|Sub-Episode #2]]: "The Rise & Fall of My Heart"===
Dramatization of a [[Hanna|girl who works at a Starbucks]] trolling Chris by taking him out on a date.

==See also==
* [[CWCville Shopping Center]]
* [[March 2018 trespass charge]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20130307232438/http://www.simon.com/mall/charlottesville-fashion-square Archive of old website from March 2013]
*[https://charlottesvillefashion.com New website]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_Fashion_Square Wikipedia Article]

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Chris and animals

2024-12-23T17:31:02Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Incomplete|This page still needs information about Chris's other pets, Chris's relationship with fictional animals such as Sonic the Hedgehog and The American Rabbit. A section on Chris's views on animal ethics would also be appropriate.}}

'''Animals''' are defined as eukaryotic life forms of the kingdom Animalia<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal</ref>. In common speech, humans are not considered animals even though they do meet this definition. Non-human animals can be broadly divided into domesticated animals which are kept and raised by humans, and wild animals which exist independently from humans. For better or worse, Chris has owned countless animals such as dogs and cats throughout his life.

==Notable Animals in Chris's Life==

===[[Patti|Patti Chandler]]===
[[Image:0050-Patti5.jpg|thumb|Patti, blissfully unaware of who her owner really is]]

Patti was a dog of mixed breed, being part {{w|beagle}} and part {{w|spitz}} and member of the Chandler household from [[1988]] to [[2006] named for Saint Patrick's Day on which she was born. Chris was apparently very fond of Patti, claiming that he much time with her when she was alive, citing her death as a source of trauma comparable to [[Father Call|losing a family member in 9/11]], and making her the very first being to live on in [[C-197]] after passing away in the real world. Despite this, when she was put down, Chris was not too distressed to draw [[Sonichu (character)| Sonichu]] on the paper for Patti's euthanasia.

In Chris's fantasy universe, Patti joined Chris's [[Electric-Hedgehogs]] and other "heroes" as [[Patti-Chan]], and would appear in several of the [[Sonichu (comic)| Sonichu comics]].

Patti lived in a doghouse that weighed approximately [[Math| 5 to 10 tons]], according to Chris.

===[[Clover and Snoopy]]===
Clover was Chris's dog from [[March 2012]] up until he was arrested in [[August 2021]] and is confirmed to be alive under the care of [[Barb]] as of [[March 2024]]. Snoopy was her brother and Barb's dog until his death in [[July 2021]]. Ironically, Chris lost custody of Clover on the 9th anniversary of the dogs' being revealed to the public in a photograph he submitted into a local radio contest that was later uploaded to the [[CWCki Forums]]. Both beagles, they were named for a ''[[My Little Pony]] Tales'' character and the famous ''[[Peanuts]]'' star respectively.

Unlike Patti, the beagles lived inside the Chandler house alongside Barb's hoard. Chris recounted that once, he was playing with the dogs on a "mountain of clothes" that Snoopy fell from, permanently damaging his leg in the process.

==Fictional Animals in Chris's Life==

===[[The Adventures of The American Rabbit|The American Rabbit]]===
The American Rabbit (actually named Robert Rabbit) is the lagomorph protagonist of the obscure 1986 animated movie ''{{W|The Adventures of the American Rabbit}}'', which Chris was unironically a fan of during his childhood, even once declaring the filmmakers "REALLY SHOULD HAVE MADE A TV SERIES of him"<ref>Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992</ref>.

He was also the first fictional character that Chris claimed to have looked up to as a hero, and evidently seems to have influenced Chris (or was at least ''one'' of his first influences, [[Chris and television|given his TV diet at the time]]) to profess beliefs in being [[True and Honest]] ([[Chris and hypocrisy|whilst otherwise failing to practice what he preaches in real life]]) as well as triumphing over anyone he would perceive to be villainous just for going against his ideals. This position as role model would eventually be passed on to...

===[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]===
[[Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|thumb|Chris, side-by-side with the (fictional) animal he cared about most]]
Sonic the Hedgehog is the lead character of a multimedia franchise created by [[Sega]] that has been ongoing since his first outing on the {{W|Sega Genesis}} in 1991. Chris was introduced to him through playing a demo of this particular game in a Sega Genesis display at the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]'s {{W|Sears}} store that year<ref>Cwclight#First_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_drawing_by_JCWCSP</ref> but what would truly solidify Sonic's place in his heart was his victory in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] in 1993.

Sonic went on to become arguably one of the biggest fixated interests Chris ever had in his life (next to ''[[Pokémon]]''), culminating in the creation of Sonichu, both the [[Sonichu (character)|character]] ''and'' [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]] for which he has since attained infamy as an online celebrity of sorts.

Chris has also expressed more loyalty to this ''fictional character'' than anyone should, admitting to [[Jackie]] that he used to be distraught whenever bullies claimed Sonic was dead<ref>Jackie Chat 9</ref> and even [[Sonic Boom Protests|being infuriated by a non-canons spinoff altering Sonic's arm color]] to the point of vandalism in stores and narrowly avoiding imprisonment for [[26 December 2014|assaulting a game store's assistant manager]] in the process of attempting to do so.

==References==
<references/>

Sweetheart

2024-11-11T21:38:43Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart? */

{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] [[Mia Hamm|(which he ultimately accomplished without a sweetheart)]], and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, a trip to a hooker (two in fact), and [[Affair with Mother|having sex with his mother]]. Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself frivolously applied, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Chris's [[Gal-Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts because they are known to Chris and don't appear to hate him.

Chris's ideal vision for a sweetheart is more or less one that allowed him to continue living as a "self-employed" stay-at-home husband/father/son, since he didn't make a significant effort to support a prospective family at any point during his [[Love Quest]] aside from briefly applying for a minimum-wage job for [[Kacey]]. Based on [[Chris and work|his frustration at the idea of doing any work whatsoever]], it's likely that he wanted someone to effectively mother him rather than an equal partner, who he could also have sex with and impregnate with [[Crystal Weston Chandler|a kid]] [[Reginald Chandler|or two]]. Chris also seemed to be under the impression that they'd live with his parents [[14 Branchland Court|and their hoard]], who he'd presumably leave his sweetheart-to-be to raise his kids with.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Chris spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Two's company snapshots|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [Chris's age then] Years Old (though not conclusive, as Barb was 79 years old back then)
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Chris established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==
[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that a special someone is waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea. (However, an argument could be made that [[Jacob Sockness]] qualifies.)

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a 42 year old man who plays with children's toys and video games all day and lived with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] up until age 39 (when authorities separated them due to him [[Affair with Mother|committing incest with her]]). Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are completely foreign concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid shit he doesn't need]]. Even when this habit [[Financhu Crisis|sank the Chandler finances into an all-time low]], he refused to take responsibility; he instead [[Please, Donate|resorted]] [[Donation Request|to]] [[Donations, Please, plus Live Game Stream tonight.|e]]-[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|begging]] [[Donations_Requested,_Please|a]] [[Donations_Required,_Serious._Please_help|very]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_1|large]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_2|number]] [[Announcement_06292016|of]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|times]] like a child to make up for his failure to put the simplest of money aside for [[McDonald's|food]], bills and medicine. On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. While stay-at-home husbands/dads are no rarity these days, they are not without responsibilities. He didn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd have dumped this responsibility on his elderly mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has no idea how to behave around women.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that bother women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. Chris has many childish mannerisms and social hindrances that are repugnant to women (and men alike); in the infamous [[For My Sweetest Ivy|video for Ivy]], these things are in abundance. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream "manchild", and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref>

'''3) Chris is not trustworthy.''' Chris is known to [[List of Chris's lies|lie a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can grievously damage a woman's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On his date with [[Catherine]], he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with [[Megan]] shortly before he ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, after specifically being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "[[Cousin Al]]" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. Also, much as Chris would profess his love for anyone he considered his sweetheart and that he would do anything for them, his interactions with [[trolls]] (especially those [[PandaHalo|pretending]] [[BlueSpike|to]] [[Kacey|be]] [[Jackie|girlfriends]]) have unwittingly revealed otherwise. For example, when [[Julie]] was supposedly in mortal danger, he was offered multiple opportunities to rescue her and he did barely ''anything'' to keep his end of the deals, even when he was audibly concerned about his [[PSN]] account being held for ransom. Needless to say, if Chris fails to keep his promises with imaginary soulmates, he wouldn't do any better with an actual sweetheart (difference being that unlike trolls faking it for personal gain, a self-respecting woman would promptly break up with him and look for someone else).

'''4) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started [[Transgender|dressing in feminine attire]], Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. When first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]] and [[Hair|nearly bald]]. His [[transgender]] identity hasn't helped either - he's now a manchild that resembles like an old bag lady, which doesn't even make him seem heterosexual anymore (sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's ''Failosophy'']], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the [[Homos|gay guy]], provided he wasn't joking). If Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was comparatively rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''5) Chris has poor hygiene.''' Chris takes little to no care of his personal hygiene. Chris has been described as having a putrid smell by people who met him in person, such as [[Emily]], [[Robert Simmons V]] and other field agents. For a while, Chris used [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower, as implied in an [[:File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Axe.jpg|ad]] for one of his Sonichu comics, seemingly oblivious to the fact that people can still detect his stench through all that deodorant. He also admits to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|literally shitting his pants]] on multiple occasions, most recently in 2021 (as far as we know). While his hygiene did [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|seemingly improve during his stay in jail]], it's unclear if it lasted, as he has since been described as smelling foul by [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Earthbound Trading Company|at least one witness, though another witness in the same vicinity has stated the contrary.]] Needless to say, a grown man who still shits the bed isn't exactly considered sexy by ordinary women.

'''6) Chris has no manners.''' Chris has difficulties understanding social norms and manners. This is a common trait among autistic folks, though this doesn't mean they are incapable of learning. Most learn early on in their childhood, either through special education, therapy, or their own parents, resources that clearly were never available to Chris. He has a habit of burping and farting in his [[Cakefarts|videos]] as well as in [[Anytime Fitness|public]]. The latter got him banned from a gym after they received numerous complaints from other patrons about Chris' constant flatulence (in addition to the constant harassment from [[weens]]). Chris's table manners are also severely lacking; from [[Christopher_Paul_Whitney_reveal|chewing food]] with his mouth wide open to [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|eating spaghetti]] 'like a toddler' while creepily hand-feeding Flutter cake with families around. Chris also has no sense of personal boundaries, and has inappropriately [[Megan emails, 2005-2006|touched]] and [[TooManyGames|kissed]] people even when they explicitly tell him several times not to do so. He tends to make inappropriate remarks without an understanding for time or place, such as doing his [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|racist]] Apu impression at an Indian restaurant. His other attempts at [[Random-access humor|humor]] are [[Namgge|cringey]] at best and [[Punchy Sonichu|downright offensive]] at worst. He has no problem in addressing a [[DoopieDoOver|stranger]] he only interacted with in a professional setting with nicknames normally reserved for sexual partners. Additionally, Chris often tries to drag people [[My Little Pony voice actresses|he barely knows]] into his drama in a vain attempt to turn them into a personal army against his perceived enemies. Even after it's made abundantly clear, Chris fails to realize that these strangers have better things to do in their life than be a part of some [[slow in the minds|mentally challenged]] manchild's petty grudges and childish zealotry. It is the very reason why even [[My Little Pony|progressive]] and [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|tolerant]] communities lose their patience with Chris. This point in particular is what caused even genuine [[Megan Schroeder|friends]] to throw in the towel on Chris, simply because of how insufferable he is.

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris has problems with authority.''' Despite the cliché that "all girls love [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|bad boys]]", a sensible woman is going to be put off by someone who is in constant trouble with [[Chris and the law|the law]]. Consider that Chris has on [[26 December 2014|two]] separate [[28 October 2011|occasions]] come very close to being sent to jail for several months; this is on top of his other lesser [[List of places that have banned Chris|brushes with authority figures]]. And it's not even as though Chris's attitude stems from him [[Episode 17#Epilogue|fighting for an important cause]] - Chris is willing to risk imprisonment for something as petty as [[Sonic Boom Protests|the color of an animated character's arms]]. Even if Chris does find his elusive sweetheart, few will be able to put up with the constant stream of bans, fines, and jail time brought about by Chris's [[Chris and anger|poor self-control]].

'''9) Chris has psychological issues.''' - Even from briefly reading [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]] ''alone'', one could immediately notice [[Chris and health#Mental health|Chris is not the most mentally sound of individuals]]. For one thing, he is [[Ego|heavily egotistical]] to the point where he repeatedly harbored [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex]], which slowly escalated into [[Chris and coping|childlike coping mechanisms]] (such as nostalgia, daydreaming, magical thinking and even [[Dimensional Merge|a merge of universes allowing fictional characters to become real]]) and (shortly after being incarcerated for incest) [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|proclaiming himself to be the second coming of Jesus Christ]]. Even ignoring his tendency toward delusions, he also has [[Chris and anger|an extensive history of lacking anger management]], up to and including verbally aggressive behavior, [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|death threats]] and [[28 October 2011|assaulting retail]] [[26 December 2014|staff twice]], a shortcoming for which [[List of places that have banned Chris|he has gotten banned from numerous places]] (mind you, that's ''far from'' the only reason he received bans). Worst of all, Chris has [[Chris and mental healthcare|never gotten psychiatric treatment]] unless forced to by authorities and even then, [[Therapeutic Docket|he would invariably come out just the same as he went in without ever learning anything to better himself]]. It's safe to presume that someone as mentally unstable as Chris is not relationship material.

'''10) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be [[Chris and writing|proficient]] [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and art|several]] [[Chris and music|of the arts]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares ''[[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]]'', and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the aforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[2014 house fire|burned to the ground]], the result of him choosing to brew coffee in his bathroom with an extension cable propped over the door. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical and stubborn]] [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He is completely inept when it comes to [[Chris and money|managing money]], meaning any relationship with him will be a [[Financhu Crisis|financial nightmare]]. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''11) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the Internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''[[Honest Content|himself]]'', there are literally [[Affair with Mother|volumes]] [[Death threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween emailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarrassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

'''12) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a children's book to try to get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role of the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] listing [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead, he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could see past these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, and the few "friends" he had were either paid off by his parents or were trolls from the very beginning, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend?

'''13) Chris doesn't care.''' Autistic people are not known to be the most [[Empathy|empathetic]] people, but Chris takes the cake. Chris has demonstrated more often than not his inability to care about anyone or anything, and when he does, it's only for secondary gain, such as attention, or in the case of a female, her [[China]]. Most of the time when people, including his (fake) [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]], talked about their problems with Chris, he would often react nonchalantly and dismissive or bring up unrelated mishaps of his to make their problems look petty in comparison.

As for his own family, it's not any better.

Starting with Cole. When Cole talked about his grievances with their mother and his frustration at her refusal to come clean about his biological father, Chris did not pay attention to anything what Cole wrote and instead asked Cole to vote for him, a middle aged man at the time, to vote for him in some juvenile contest. Only when Cole played along did Chris cooperate, but even then he showed little interest in his own brother's plight.

When his aunt [[Corinna]] died, Chris was more upset that he couldn't enjoy his birthday and munch on some cupcakes, than his aunt dying, who was the only family member who still tolerated Barb and Chris.

Not long after, when it was revealed that Cole married, Chris, instead of working up the empathy to congratulate his brother, made a [[Message for John Kyle|video]] addressed to Cole's brother-in-law where basically tells him what a piece of shit Cole is, straight up denies his mistreatment at Barb's hands, as well as congratulate Cole in a condescending manner.

Bob's death was the only time Chris showed genuine sadness for a time. Although at one point, he admitted to have never loved Bob, but respected him. Well, what is Chris' idea of respecting his own father, to whom he owes his existence and lifestyle? Have sex with his wife and insult him while he was at it. As for Barb, the person Chris was closest to, not long after the incest fallout, Chris wished her dead, so he can have the house all to himself.

A relationship is a financial ,as well as an emotional investment. If he is incapable of doing the latter with his own family, how will he do it with a partner?

In the end, Chris cares about no one but himself, that's why no one will care about him.

'''14) Chris is economically undesirable.''' Putting aside all the above-listed flaws, what a potential sweetheart really wants from a man is a responsible adult who has something going for him. For starters, Chris only managed to get an [[CADD|Associate]], which became obsolete without him ever putting it to use, choosing to live off his meager [[tugboat]] instead. Chris's only selling point is his art, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. To begin with, his artistic skills are still on the level of an elementary schooler, despite drawing art for most of his life so far. His works, rather than having original ideas, are mostly self-inserts and blatant rip-offs of existing IPs. Additionally, while the content of his drawings are popular with [[trolls]] and [[weens]], the vast majority of people would consider them either [[Sonichu's News Dash|oblique]] or outright [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|disturbing]]. If a woman were to see any of Chris' works, she would run for the hills; [[Megan]] and the [[Gal-Pals]] already had. Had Chris actually utilized his full artistic potential, put the effort into his art, and invented original works, he could've made for a fine freelance artist and even scored among a Sweetheart. Instead, Chris has chosen to waste away the rest of his life, lost in his [[Dimensional Merge|delusions]].

Throughout human history, women are psychologically inclined to mate with men who have the most resources, both material and financial ones. Nowadays, as women can go study, work and make money on their own, they are no longer reliant on men as providers. Nonetheless, the archaic pattern remains and even in modern day society, women will go for men on the same, even higher level of their education and income, such as Doctors, Surgeons, Lawyers, Engineers, IT, or any mid to high level employee. They'll be in no rush to settle down with a greasy, middle-aged shut-in who lives off [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], much less have children with him.

Ultimately, Chris' social and financial status will inevitably keep him from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

== Present situation ==

[[File:NaiveChrisHedgehog.gif|thumb|right|300px|This is what Chris's break-ups are like.]]

In July 2015,<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sweetheart&diff=188584&oldid=188265 Revision] as of 26 July 2015.</ref> the CWCki originally concluded that no person - male, female or [[Tomgirl Saga|other]] - would likely find him attractive, but there was still a small window of opportunity for Chris to improve his chances of enticing a sweetheart, with a major lifestyle overhaul and some serious self-betterment.

Unfortunately, that window of opportunity has closed: in addition to all the reasons listed above, Chris has given up on reality with the [[Dimensional Merge]]. What little remained of his chances of attracting a sweetheart disappeared in 2018, when Chris ended his [[Love Quest]] by marrying some of his [[Polyamorous marriage|imaginary OCs]], and then [[Love_Quest#Idea Guys influences|declined]] an offer of a date with a female fan cosplaying as him because of his imaginary marriage.

Even ''more'' unfortunately, that window of opportunity had not closed as we once thought it did. in late [[July 2021]], the [[incest call]] was leaked, and the grim truth of Chris's love-life came to the surface. Called "the [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] of the internet" by some, it turned out that Chris had been in a sexual relationship with his mother since at least June of that year. This event adds one last reason for why the chances of Chris getting a sweetheart enormously low: nobody wants to date a literal motherfucker. While there's now [[Flutter|another potential contender for this role]], it seems less and less likely that she will actually take up the mantle.

==References==
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==See also==
* [[List of Love Quest candidates]]
* [[Boyfriend-free girl]]
* [[Gal pal]]
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]
* [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Noviophobia]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

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Sweetheart

2024-11-11T21:35:31Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart? */

{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] [[Mia Hamm|(which he ultimately accomplished without a sweetheart)]], and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, a trip to a hooker (two in fact), and [[Affair with Mother|having sex with his mother]]. Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself frivolously applied, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Chris's [[Gal-Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts because they are known to Chris and don't appear to hate him.

Chris's ideal vision for a sweetheart is more or less one that allowed him to continue living as a "self-employed" stay-at-home husband/father/son, since he didn't make a significant effort to support a prospective family at any point during his [[Love Quest]] aside from briefly applying for a minimum-wage job for [[Kacey]]. Based on [[Chris and work|his frustration at the idea of doing any work whatsoever]], it's likely that he wanted someone to effectively mother him rather than an equal partner, who he could also have sex with and impregnate with [[Crystal Weston Chandler|a kid]] [[Reginald Chandler|or two]]. Chris also seemed to be under the impression that they'd live with his parents [[14 Branchland Court|and their hoard]], who he'd presumably leave his sweetheart-to-be to raise his kids with.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Chris spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Two's company snapshots|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [Chris's age then] Years Old (though not conclusive, as Barb was 79 years old back then)
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Chris established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==
[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that a special someone is waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea. (However, an argument could be made that [[Jacob Sockness]] qualifies.)

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a 42 year old man who plays with children's toys and video games all day and lived with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] up until age 39 (when authorities separated them due to him [[Affair with Mother|committing incest with her]]). Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are completely foreign concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid shit he doesn't need]]. Even when this habit [[Financhu Crisis|sank the Chandler finances into an all-time low]], he refused to take responsibility; he instead [[Please, Donate|resorted]] [[Donation Request|to]] [[Donations, Please, plus Live Game Stream tonight.|e]]-[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|begging]] [[Donations_Requested,_Please|a]] [[Donations_Required,_Serious._Please_help|very]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_1|large]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_2|number]] [[Announcement_06292016|of]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|times]] like a child to make up for his failure to put the simplest of money aside for [[McDonald's|food]], bills and medicine. On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. While stay-at-home husbands/dads are no rarity these days, they are not without responsibilities. He didn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd have dumped this responsibility on his elderly mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has no idea how to behave around women.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that bother women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. Chris has many childish mannerisms and social hindrances that are repugnant to women (and men alike); in the infamous [[For My Sweetest Ivy|video for Ivy]], these things are in abundance. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream "manchild", and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref>

'''3) Chris is not trustworthy.''' Chris is known to [[List of Chris's lies|lie a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can grievously damage a woman's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On his date with [[Catherine]], he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with [[Megan]] shortly before he ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, after specifically being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "[[Cousin Al]]" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. Also, much as Chris would profess his love for anyone he considered his sweetheart and that he would do anything for them, his interactions with [[trolls]] (especially those [[PandaHalo|pretending]] [[BlueSpike|to]] [[Kacey|be]] [[Jackie|girlfriends]]) have unwittingly revealed otherwise. For example, when [[Julie]] was supposedly in mortal danger, he was offered multiple opportunities to rescue her and he did barely ''anything'' to keep his end of the deals, even when he was audibly concerned about his [[PSN]] account being held for ransom. Needless to say, if Chris fails to keep his promises with imaginary soulmates, he wouldn't do any better with an actual sweetheart (difference being that unlike trolls faking it for personal gain, a self-respecting woman would promptly break up with him and look for someone else).

'''4) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started [[Transgender|dressing in feminine attire]], Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. When first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]] and [[Hair|nearly bald]]. His [[transgender]] identity hasn't helped either - he's now a manchild that resembles like an old bag lady, which doesn't even make him seem heterosexual anymore (sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's ''Failosophy'']], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the [[Homos|gay guy]], provided he wasn't joking). If Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was comparatively rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''5) Chris has poor hygiene.''' Chris takes little to no care of his personal hygiene. Chris has been described as having a putrid smell by people who met him in person, such as [[Emily]], [[Robert Simmons V]] and other field agents. For a while, Chris used [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower, as implied in an [[:File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Axe.jpg|ad]] for one of his Sonichu comics, seemingly oblivious to the fact that people can still detect his stench through all that deodorant. He also admits to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|literally shitting his pants]] on multiple occasions, most recently in 2021 (as far as we know). While his hygiene did [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|seemingly improve during his stay in jail]], it's unclear if it lasted, as he has since been described as smelling foul by [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Earthbound Trading Company|at least one witness, though another witness in the same vicinity has stated the contrary.]] Needless to say, a grown man who still shits the bed isn't exactly considered sexy by ordinary women.

'''6) Chris has no manners.''' Chris has difficulties understanding social norms and manners. This is a common trait among autistic folks, though this doesn't mean they are incapable of learning. Most learn early on in their childhood, either through special education, therapy, or their own parents, resources that clearly were never available to Chris. He has a habit of burping and farting in his [[Cakefarts|videos]] as well as in [[Anytime Fitness|public]]. The latter got him banned from a gym after they received numerous complaints from other patrons about Chris' constant flatulence (in addition to the constant harassment from [[weens]]). Chris's table manners are also severely lacking; from [[Christopher_Paul_Whitney_reveal|chewing food]] with his mouth wide open to [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|eating spaghetti]] 'like a toddler' while creepily hand-feeding Flutter cake with families around. Chris also has no sense of personal boundaries, and has inappropriately [[Megan emails, 2005-2006|touched]] and [[TooManyGames|kissed]] people even when they explicitly tell him several times not to do so. He tends to make inappropriate remarks without an understanding for time or place, such as doing his [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|racist]] Apu impression at an Indian restaurant. His other attempts at [[Random-access humor|humor]] are [[Namgge|cringey]] at best and [[Punchy Sonichu|downright offensive]] at worst. He has no problem in addressing a [[DoopieDoOver|stranger]] he only interacted with in a professional setting with nicknames normally reserved for sexual partners. Additionally, Chris often tries to drag people [[My Little Pony voice actresses|he barely knows]] into his drama in a vain attempt to turn them into a personal army against his perceived enemies. Even after it's made abundantly clear, Chris fails to realize that these strangers have better things to do in their life than be a part of some [[slow in the minds|mentally challenged]] manchild's petty grudges and childish zealotry. It is the very reason why even [[My Little Pony|progressive]] and [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|tolerant]] communities lose their patience with Chris. This point in particular is what caused even genuine [[Megan Schroeder|friends]] to throw in the towel on Chris, simply because of how insufferable he is.

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris has problems with authority.''' Despite the cliché that "all girls love [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|bad boys]]", a sensible woman is going to be put off by someone who is in constant trouble with [[Chris and the law|the law]]. Consider that Chris has on [[26 December 2014|two]] separate [[28 October 2011|occasions]] come very close to being sent to jail for several months; this is on top of his other lesser [[List of places that have banned Chris|brushes with authority figures]]. And it's not even as though Chris's attitude stems from him [[Episode 17#Epilogue|fighting for an important cause]] - Chris is willing to risk imprisonment for something as petty as [[Sonic Boom Protests|the color of an animated character's arms]]. Even if Chris does find his elusive sweetheart, few will be able to put up with the constant stream of bans, fines, and jail time brought about by Chris's [[Chris and anger|poor self-control]].

'''9) Chris has psychological issues.''' - Even from briefly reading [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]] ''alone'', one could immediately notice [[Chris and health#Mental health|Chris is not the most mentally sound of individuals]]. For one thing, he is [[Ego|heavily egotistical]] to the point where he repeatedly harbored [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex]], which slowly escalated into [[Chris and coping|childlike coping mechanisms]] (such as nostalgia, daydreaming, magical thinking and even [[Dimensional Merge|a merge of universes allowing fictional characters to become real]]) and (shortly after being incarcerated for incest) [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|proclaiming himself to be the second coming of Jesus Christ]]. Even ignoring his tendency toward delusions, he also has [[Chris and anger|an extensive history of lacking anger management]], up to and including verbally aggressive behavior, [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|death threats]] and [[28 October 2011|assaulting retail]] [[26 December 2014|staff twice]], a shortcoming for which [[List of places that have banned Chris|he has gotten banned from numerous places]] (mind you, that's ''far from'' the only reason he received bans). Worst of all, Chris has never gotten psychiatric treatment unless forced to by authorities and even then, he came out just as the same as he went in without ever learning anything to better himself. It's safe to presume that someone as mentally unstable as Chris is not relationship material.

'''10) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be [[Chris and writing|proficient]] [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and art|several]] [[Chris and music|of the arts]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares ''[[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]]'', and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the aforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[2014 house fire|burned to the ground]], the result of him choosing to brew coffee in his bathroom with an extension cable propped over the door. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical and stubborn]] [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He is completely inept when it comes to [[Chris and money|managing money]], meaning any relationship with him will be a [[Financhu Crisis|financial nightmare]]. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''11) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the Internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''[[Honest Content|himself]]'', there are literally [[Affair with Mother|volumes]] [[Death threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween emailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarrassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

'''12) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a children's book to try to get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role of the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] listing [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead, he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could see past these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, and the few "friends" he had were either paid off by his parents or were trolls from the very beginning, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend?

'''13) Chris doesn't care.''' Autistic people are not known to be the most [[Empathy|empathetic]] people, but Chris takes the cake. Chris has demonstrated more often than not his inability to care about anyone or anything, and when he does, it's only for secondary gain, such as attention, or in the case of a female, her [[China]]. Most of the time when people, including his (fake) [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]], talked about their problems with Chris, he would often react nonchalantly and dismissive or bring up unrelated mishaps of his to make their problems look petty in comparison.

As for his own family, it's not any better.

Starting with Cole. When Cole talked about his grievances with their mother and his frustration at her refusal to come clean about his biological father, Chris did not pay attention to anything what Cole wrote and instead asked Cole to vote for him, a middle aged man at the time, to vote for him in some juvenile contest. Only when Cole played along did Chris cooperate, but even then he showed little interest in his own brother's plight.

When his aunt [[Corinna]] died, Chris was more upset that he couldn't enjoy his birthday and munch on some cupcakes, than his aunt dying, who was the only family member who still tolerated Barb and Chris.

Not long after, when it was revealed that Cole married, Chris, instead of working up the empathy to congratulate his brother, made a [[Message for John Kyle|video]] addressed to Cole's brother-in-law where basically tells him what a piece of shit Cole is, straight up denies his mistreatment at Barb's hands, as well as congratulate Cole in a condescending manner.

Bob's death was the only time Chris showed genuine sadness for a time. Although at one point, he admitted to have never loved Bob, but respected him. Well, what is Chris' idea of respecting his own father, to whom he owes his existence and lifestyle? Have sex with his wife and insult him while he was at it. As for Barb, the person Chris was closest to, not long after the incest fallout, Chris wished her dead, so he can have the house all to himself.

A relationship is a financial ,as well as an emotional investment. If he is incapable of doing the latter with his own family, how will he do it with a partner?

In the end, Chris cares about no one but himself, that's why no one will care about him.

'''14) Chris is economically undesirable.''' Putting aside all the above-listed flaws, what a potential sweetheart really wants from a man is a responsible adult who has something going for him. For starters, Chris only managed to get an [[CADD|Associate]], which became obsolete without him ever putting it to use, choosing to live off his meager [[tugboat]] instead. Chris's only selling point is his art, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. To begin with, his artistic skills are still on the level of an elementary schooler, despite drawing art for most of his life so far. His works, rather than having original ideas, are mostly self-inserts and blatant rip-offs of existing IPs. Additionally, while the content of his drawings are popular with [[trolls]] and [[weens]], the vast majority of people would consider them either [[Sonichu's News Dash|oblique]] or outright [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|disturbing]]. If a woman were to see any of Chris' works, she would run for the hills; [[Megan]] and the [[Gal-Pals]] already had. Had Chris actually utilized his full artistic potential, put the effort into his art, and invented original works, he could've made for a fine freelance artist and even scored among a Sweetheart. Instead, Chris has chosen to waste away the rest of his life, lost in his [[Dimensional Merge|delusions]].

Throughout human history, women are psychologically inclined to mate with men who have the most resources, both material and financial ones. Nowadays, as women can go study, work and make money on their own, they are no longer reliant on men as providers. Nonetheless, the archaic pattern remains and even in modern day society, women will go for men on the same, even higher level of their education and income, such as Doctors, Surgeons, Lawyers, Engineers, IT, or any mid to high level employee. They'll be in no rush to settle down with a greasy, middle-aged shut-in who lives off [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], much less have children with him.

Ultimately, Chris' social and financial status will inevitably keep him from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

== Present situation ==

[[File:NaiveChrisHedgehog.gif|thumb|right|300px|This is what Chris's break-ups are like.]]

In July 2015,<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sweetheart&diff=188584&oldid=188265 Revision] as of 26 July 2015.</ref> the CWCki originally concluded that no person - male, female or [[Tomgirl Saga|other]] - would likely find him attractive, but there was still a small window of opportunity for Chris to improve his chances of enticing a sweetheart, with a major lifestyle overhaul and some serious self-betterment.

Unfortunately, that window of opportunity has closed: in addition to all the reasons listed above, Chris has given up on reality with the [[Dimensional Merge]]. What little remained of his chances of attracting a sweetheart disappeared in 2018, when Chris ended his [[Love Quest]] by marrying some of his [[Polyamorous marriage|imaginary OCs]], and then [[Love_Quest#Idea Guys influences|declined]] an offer of a date with a female fan cosplaying as him because of his imaginary marriage.

Even ''more'' unfortunately, that window of opportunity had not closed as we once thought it did. in late [[July 2021]], the [[incest call]] was leaked, and the grim truth of Chris's love-life came to the surface. Called "the [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] of the internet" by some, it turned out that Chris had been in a sexual relationship with his mother since at least June of that year. This event adds one last reason for why the chances of Chris getting a sweetheart enormously low: nobody wants to date a literal motherfucker. While there's now [[Flutter|another potential contender for this role]], it seems less and less likely that she will actually take up the mantle.

==References==
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==See also==
* [[List of Love Quest candidates]]
* [[Boyfriend-free girl]]
* [[Gal pal]]
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]
* [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Noviophobia]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

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Sweetheart

2024-11-11T03:45:51Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart? */

{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] [[Mia Hamm|(which he ultimately accomplished without a sweetheart)]], and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, a trip to a hooker (two in fact), and [[Affair with Mother|having sex with his mother]]. Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself frivolously applied, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Chris's [[Gal-Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts because they are known to Chris and don't appear to hate him.

Chris's ideal vision for a sweetheart is more or less one that allowed him to continue living as a "self-employed" stay-at-home husband/father/son, since he didn't make a significant effort to support a prospective family at any point during his [[Love Quest]] aside from briefly applying for a minimum-wage job for [[Kacey]]. Based on [[Chris and work|his frustration at the idea of doing any work whatsoever]], it's likely that he wanted someone to effectively mother him rather than an equal partner, who he could also have sex with and impregnate with [[Crystal Weston Chandler|a kid]] [[Reginald Chandler|or two]]. Chris also seemed to be under the impression that they'd live with his parents [[14 Branchland Court|and their hoard]], who he'd presumably leave his sweetheart-to-be to raise his kids with.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Chris spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Two's company snapshots|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [Chris's age then] Years Old (though not conclusive, as Barb was 79 years old back then)
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Chris established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==
[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that a special someone is waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea. (However, an argument could be made that [[Jacob Sockness]] qualifies.)

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a 42 year old man who plays with children's toys and video games all day and lived with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] up until age 39 (when authorities separated them due to him [[Affair with Mother|committing incest with her]]). Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are completely foreign concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid shit he doesn't need]]. Even when this habit [[Financhu Crisis|sank the Chandler finances into an all-time low]], he refused to take responsibility; he instead [[Please, Donate|resorted]] [[Donation Request|to]] [[Donations, Please, plus Live Game Stream tonight.|e]]-[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|begging]] [[Donations_Requested,_Please|a]] [[Donations_Required,_Serious._Please_help|very]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_1|large]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_2|number]] [[Announcement_06292016|of]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|times]] like a child to make up for his failure to put the simplest of money aside for [[McDonald's|food]], bills and medicine. On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. While stay-at-home husbands/dads are no rarity these days, they are not without responsibilities. He didn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd have dumped this responsibility on his elderly mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has no idea how to behave around women.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that bother women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. Chris has many childish mannerisms and social hindrances that are repugnant to women (and men alike); in the infamous [[For My Sweetest Ivy|video for Ivy]], these things are in abundance. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream "manchild", and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref>

'''3) Chris is not trustworthy.''' Chris is known to [[List of Chris's lies|lie a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can grievously damage a woman's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On his date with [[Catherine]], he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with [[Megan]] shortly before he ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, after specifically being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "[[Cousin Al]]" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. Also, much as Chris would profess his love for anyone he considered his sweetheart and that he would do anything for them, his interactions with trolls (especially those prertending to be girlfriends) have unwittingly revealed otherwise. For example, when [[Julie]] was supposedly in mortal danger, he was offered multiple opportunities and he did barely ''anything'' to keep his end of the deals, even when he was audibly concerned about his [[PSN]] account being held for ransom. Needless to say, if Chris fails to keep his promises with imaginary soulmates, he wouldn't do any better with an actual sweetheart (difference being that unlike trolls faking it for personal gain, a self-respecting woman would promptly break up with him and look for someone else).

'''4) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started [[Transgender|dressing in feminine attire]], Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. When first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]] and [[Hair|nearly bald]]. His [[transgender]] identity hasn't helped either - he's now a manchild that resembles like an old bag lady, which doesn't even make him seem heterosexual anymore (sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's ''Failosophy'']], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the [[Homos|gay guy]], provided he wasn't joking). If Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was comparatively rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''5) Chris has poor hygiene.''' Chris takes little to no care of his personal hygiene. Chris has been described as having a putrid smell by people who met him in person, such as [[Emily]], [[Robert Simmons V]] and other field agents. For a while, Chris used [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower, as implied in an [[:File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Axe.jpg|ad]] for one of his Sonichu comics, seemingly oblivious to the fact that people can still detect his stench through all that deodorant. He also admits to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|literally shitting his pants]] on multiple occasions, most recently in 2021 (as far as we know). While his hygiene did [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|seemingly improve during his stay in jail]], it's unclear if it lasted, as he has since been described as smelling foul by [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Earthbound Trading Company|at least one witness, though another witness in the same vicinity has stated the contrary.]] Needless to say, a grown man who still shits the bed isn't exactly considered sexy by ordinary women.

'''6) Chris has no manners.''' Chris has difficulties understanding social norms and manners. This is a common trait among autistic folks, though this doesn't mean they are incapable of learning. Most learn early on in their childhood, either through special education, therapy, or their own parents, resources that clearly were never available to Chris. He has a habit of burping and farting in his [[Cakefarts|videos]] as well as in [[Anytime Fitness|public]]. The latter got him banned from a gym after they received numerous complaints from other patrons about Chris' constant flatulence (in addition to the constant harassment from [[weens]]). Chris's table manners are also severely lacking; from [[Christopher_Paul_Whitney_reveal|chewing food]] with his mouth wide open to [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|eating spaghetti]] 'like a toddler' while creepily hand-feeding Flutter cake with families around. Chris also has no sense of personal boundaries, and has inappropriately [[Megan emails, 2005-2006|touched]] and [[TooManyGames|kissed]] people even when they explicitly tell him several times not to do so. He tends to make inappropriate remarks without an understanding for time or place, such as doing his [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|racist]] Apu impression at an Indian restaurant. His other attempts at [[Random-access humor|humor]] are [[Namgge|cringey]] at best and [[Punchy Sonichu|downright offensive]] at worst. He has no problem in addressing a [[DoopieDoOver|stranger]] he only interacted with in a professional setting with nicknames normally reserved for sexual partners. Additionally, Chris often tries to drag people [[My Little Pony voice actresses|he barely knows]] into his drama in a vain attempt to turn them into a personal army against his perceived enemies. Even after it's made abundantly clear, Chris fails to realize that these strangers have better things to do in their life than be a part of some [[slow in the minds|mentally challenged]] manchild's petty grudges and childish zealotry. It is the very reason why even [[My Little Pony|progressive]] and [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|tolerant]] communities lose their patience with Chris. This point in particular is what caused even genuine [[Megan Schroeder|friends]] to throw in the towel on Chris, simply because of how insufferable he is.

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris has problems with authority.''' Despite the cliché that "all girls love [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|bad boys]]", a sensible woman is going to be put off by someone who is in constant trouble with [[Chris and the law|the law]]. Consider that Chris has on [[26 December 2014|two]] separate [[28 October 2011|occasions]] come very close to being sent to jail for several months; this is on top of his other lesser [[List of places that have banned Chris|brushes with authority figures]]. And it's not even as though Chris's attitude stems from him [[Episode 17#Epilogue|fighting for an important cause]] - Chris is willing to risk imprisonment for something as petty as [[Sonic Boom Protests|the color of an animated character's arms]]. Even if Chris does find his elusive sweetheart, few will be able to put up with the constant stream of bans, fines, and jail time brought about by Chris's [[Chris and anger|poor self-control]].

'''9) Chris has psychological issues.''' - Even from briefly reading [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]] ''alone'', one could immediately notice [[Chris and health#Mental health|Chris is not the most mentally sound of individuals]]. For one thing, he is [[Ego|heavily egotistical]] to the point where he repeatedly harbored [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex]], which slowly escalated into [[Chris and coping|childlike coping mechanisms]] (such as nostalgia, daydreaming, magical thinking and even [[Dimensional Merge|a merge of universes allowing fictional characters to become real]]) and (shortly after being incarcerated for incest) [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|proclaiming himself to be the second coming of Jesus Christ]]. Even ignoring his tendency toward delusions, he also has [[Chris and anger|an extensive history of lacking anger management]], up to and including verbally aggressive behavior, [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|death threats]] and [[28 October 2011|assaulting retail]] [[26 December 2014|staff twice]], a shortcoming for which [[List of places that have banned Chris|he has gotten banned from numerous places]] (mind you, that's ''far from'' the only reason he received bans). Worst of all, Chris has never gotten psychiatric treatment unless forced to by authorities and even then, he came out just as the same as he went in without ever learning anything to better himself. It's safe to presume that someone as mentally unstable as Chris is not relationship material.

'''10) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be [[Chris and writing|proficient]] [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and art|several]] [[Chris and music|of the arts]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares ''[[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]]'', and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the aforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[2014 house fire|burned to the ground]], the result of him choosing to brew coffee in his bathroom with an extension cable propped over the door. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical and stubborn]] [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He is completely inept when it comes to [[Chris and money|managing money]], meaning any relationship with him will be a [[Financhu Crisis|financial nightmare]]. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''11) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the Internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''[[Honest Content|himself]]'', there are literally [[Affair with Mother|volumes]] [[Death threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween emailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarrassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

'''12) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a children's book to try to get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role of the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] listing [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead, he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could see past these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, and the few "friends" he had were either paid off by his parents or were trolls from the very beginning, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend?

'''13) Chris doesn't care.''' Autistic people are not known to be the most [[Empathy|empathetic]] people, but Chris takes the cake. Chris has demonstrated more often than not his inability to care about anyone or anything, and when he does, it's only for secondary gain, such as attention, or in the case of a female, her [[China]]. Most of the time when people, including his (fake) [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]], talked about their problems with Chris, he would often react nonchalantly and dismissive or bring up unrelated mishaps of his to make their problems look petty in comparison.

As for his own family, it's not any better.

Starting with Cole. When Cole talked about his grievances with their mother and his frustration at her refusal to come clean about his biological father, Chris did not pay attention to anything what Cole wrote and instead asked Cole to vote for him, a middle aged man at the time, to vote for him in some juvenile contest. Only when Cole played along did Chris cooperate, but even then he showed little interest in his own brother's plight.

When his aunt [[Corinna]] died, Chris was more upset that he couldn't enjoy his birthday and munch on some cupcakes, than his aunt dying, who was the only family member who still tolerated Barb and Chris.

Not long after, when it was revealed that Cole married, Chris, instead of working up the empathy to congratulate his brother, made a [[Message for John Kyle|video]] addressed to Cole's brother-in-law where basically tells him what a piece of shit Cole is, straight up denies his mistreatment at Barb's hands, as well as congratulate Cole in a condescending manner.

Bob's death was the only time Chris showed genuine sadness for a time. Although at one point, he admitted to have never loved Bob, but respected him. Well, what is Chris' idea of respecting his own father, to whom he owes his existence and lifestyle? Sell his memorabilia to fund his impulse purchases, have sex with his wife and insult him while he was at it. As for Barb, the person Chris was closest to, not long after the incest fallout, Chris wished her dead, so he can have the house all to himself.

A relationship is a financial ,as well as an emotional investment. If he is incapable of doing the latter with his own family, how will he do it with a partner?

In the end, Chris cares about no one but himself, that's why no one will care about him.

'''14) Chris is economically undesirable.''' Putting aside all the above-listed flaws, what a potential sweetheart really wants from a man is a responsible adult who has something going for him. For starters, Chris only managed to get an [[CADD|Associate]], which became obsolete without him ever putting it to use, choosing to live off his meager [[tugboat]] instead. Chris's only selling point is his art, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. To begin with, his artistic skills are still on the level of an elementary schooler, despite drawing art for most of his life so far. His works, rather than having original ideas, are mostly self-inserts and blatant rip-offs of existing IPs. Additionally, while the content of his drawings are popular with [[trolls]] and [[weens]], the vast majority of people would consider them either [[Sonichu's News Dash|oblique]] or outright [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|disturbing]]. If a woman were to see any of Chris' works, she would run for the hills; [[Megan]] and the [[Gal-Pals]] already had. Had Chris actually utilized his full artistic potential, put the effort into his art, and invented original works, he could've made for a fine freelance artist and even scored among a Sweetheart. Instead, Chris has chosen to waste away the rest of his life, lost in his [[Dimensional Merge|delusions]].

Throughout human history, women are psychologically inclined to mate with men who have the most resources, both material and financial ones. Nowadays, as women can go study, work and make money on their own, they are no longer reliant on men as providers. Nonetheless, the archaic pattern remains and even in modern day society, women will go for men on the same, even higher level of their education and income, such as Doctors, Surgeons, Lawyers, Engineers, IT, or any mid to high level employee. They'll be in no rush to settle down with a greasy, middle-aged shut-in who lives off [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], much less have children with him.

Ultimately, Chris' social and financial status will inevitably keep him from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

== Present situation ==

[[File:NaiveChrisHedgehog.gif|thumb|right|300px|This is what Chris's break-ups are like.]]

In July 2015,<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sweetheart&diff=188584&oldid=188265 Revision] as of 26 July 2015.</ref> the CWCki originally concluded that no person - male, female or [[Tomgirl Saga|other]] - would likely find him attractive, but there was still a small window of opportunity for Chris to improve his chances of enticing a sweetheart, with a major lifestyle overhaul and some serious self-betterment.

Unfortunately, that window of opportunity has closed: in addition to all the reasons listed above, Chris has given up on reality with the [[Dimensional Merge]]. What little remained of his chances of attracting a sweetheart disappeared in 2018, when Chris ended his [[Love Quest]] by marrying some of his [[Polyamorous marriage|imaginary OCs]], and then [[Love_Quest#Idea Guys influences|declined]] an offer of a date with a female fan cosplaying as him because of his imaginary marriage.

Even ''more'' unfortunately, that window of opportunity had not closed as we once thought it did. in late [[July 2021]], the [[incest call]] was leaked, and the grim truth of Chris's love-life came to the surface. Called "the [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] of the internet" by some, it turned out that Chris had been in a sexual relationship with his mother since at least June of that year. This event adds one last reason for why the chances of Chris getting a sweetheart enormously low: nobody wants to date a literal motherfucker. While there's now [[Flutter|another potential contender for this role]], it seems less and less likely that she will actually take up the mantle.

==References==
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==See also==
* [[List of Love Quest candidates]]
* [[Boyfriend-free girl]]
* [[Gal pal]]
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]
* [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Noviophobia]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

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