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The GAMe PLACe

2026-03-17T00:50:03Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from [[August 2011]] until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995. It is located about 12 miles away from [[14 Branchland Court]].

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant [[Chris and race|racism]] with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and the former owner's son Tito were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police.

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

In an email account of the incident, Chris justified his attempted intrusion by noticing the store was under new management and assumed this would allow him an opportunity to get his ban repealed, only to find out that Michael was still working there, thus conflict ensued.<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email]]</ref>

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he played. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also wished for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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The GAMe PLACe

2026-03-17T00:32:03Z

FurryChristorian789: Noticed the article didn't mention something described in the Mimms and Lucas Q&A

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from [[August 2011]] until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995. It is located about 12 miles away from [[14 Branchland Court]].

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant [[Chris and race|racism]] with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and the former owner's son Tito were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police.

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he put together his decks. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also wished for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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Chris and video games

2026-02-28T02:23:49Z

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{{quote|And [[Bob Chandler|Christian's father]] says it only takes a few hours for him to master an electronic game, and then...move onto another! I can't master any of them.|A TV anchorwoman on a younger Chris winning the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].}}

[[Image:LoveThatLifeUpgrade.jpg|thumb|Chris tried having sex with a video game console once. [[Chris humps his PS3|It didn't work out]].]]

In case a cursory glance at this wiki did not tell you, Chris likes '''video games'''. A lot. In fact, Chris definitely has spent more time on video games than any other activity or pursuit, including his [[Love Quest]]. He has said he spends between two and four hours a day playing games,<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 7]]</ref> and the real figure is likely higher than what he admits to.

Without delving too deeply into armchair psychiatry, it is not hard to see why video games hold so much appeal to Chris. His brain is wired to operate according to [[Autism|absolute values and rigidly-defined processes]]. This is one of the reasons he has so much difficulty in the real world — the rules keep changing on him- if he figures out the rules in the first place. In the artificial world of video games, the challenges are the kind that his inflexible mind is able to comprehend and surmount. There, the rules never change, and all he has to do is follow them. [[Chris and reality|Reality isn't quite as simple]], which is why he spends as little time out there as possible.

==Early Years==
Chris has been an avid gamer since a very young age. He first played video games on a [[Commodore 64]] home computer system. Before he was eight years old, he had a Game Boy and a [[Nintendo]] Entertainment System, and he acquired more consoles and games throughout the 1990s. According to [[The Sonichu Chronicles]], he has been a fan of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] since the character's [[1991]] debut for the Sega Genesis. His game collection really took off in [[1993]], when he won his famous shopping spree in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] and added $1,000 worth of Sega games and hardware to his hoard.

==Chris's game collection==
[[Image:404-SpiderManSignedGame.jpg|thumb|Well, if ''[[No More Jokes|Spider-Man]]'' says it...]]

{{main|List of Chris's games}}

Although the last completely reliable account of his collection dates back all the way to [[January 2009]], Chris owns, conservatively, nearly 850 different game titles across twenty different platforms. He sold off roughly one hundred games in various trips to GameStop and local pawn shops during the late summer and early fall of 2010, but this hardly depletes the reserves, at all. He also maintained an account with the mail-order rental service GameFly until [[August 2010]].

[[Sony]] consoles dominate Chris's collection. Counting the games he has downloaded through the [[PlayStation Network]], nearly half of his games belong to the PlayStation family. Nintendo comes next, including more than 100 games for Nintendo's different portable platforms, and Sega brings [[Homos|up the rear]]. While he owns every Sega console short of an 8-bit Master System, and Sonic the Hedgehog is one of his favorite individual franchises, games for Sega consoles make up less than 15-10% of Chris's collection.

Chris's violent hatred of the [[Xbox]] is well-known, but [[Chris and hypocrisy|he likely owns, or at one point owned, an original Xbox console]]. However, it is not known how much time he has spent on Xbox games. His [[List of Chris's eBay sales|eBay account]] shows that he tried to sell off a handful of Xbox games in the summer of [[2008]]. The record of his eBay sales also indicates that, in addition to owning at least one of every machine he owns games for, he has gone through at least three or four of Sony's original PlayStation consoles over the years. It is possible that he has had to replace a few of the infamously fragile apparatuses for overuse, but this could also be an indication that he bought the systems and games in bundles.

It is virtually impossible to gauge exactly how much money has been shoveled into Chris's game collection over the past few decades. Knowledgeable [[trolls]], however, reckon that his physical collection of games and hardware represents around $20,000. His PSN downloads, meanwhile, can be accurately accounted for – there, the bill is close to $3,500 and surely climbing all the while. One of the more grievous examples of Chris's video-game-related overspending is his apparent ownership of at least two copies of the eighty-dollar ''[[Street Fighter]] IV Collector's Edition'', as evidenced by the two identical exclusive Ryu figurines he later sold on eBay. While it is possible that Chris received the second figure from an outside source or packaging error, his attempt to bribe [[BlueSpike]] [[Julie Reveals Herself: The Prequel|with a copy of the game]] and his habit of wasting money for no particular reason lend credence to the former theory.

In January 2015, it was leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, ''racking up '''585''' transactions'' in the last 4.5 years,<ref>[[Nintendo employee reveals details of Chris's Nintendo transactions]]</ref> or 150 payments a year. This list includes useless shovelware, Virtual Console games, and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he does not even like.]] Of these, 276 purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (''buying '''4''' DS and DSi consoles''), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind that 39% of the purchases Chris has on his account (such as Skylanders figures, amiibos, and his Wii U Virtual Console purchases) are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high figure. Apparently, his main attention and [[Nintendo Power Magazine|fanboyism]] has shifted from PlayStation back to Nintendo, for unknown reasons.

This leak also revealed that Chris plays almost every game demo available on the eShop, Nintendo's online downloadable video game store, even if he has no interest in said game. This leak also confirmed he had bought every single [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] game and primary [[Pokémon]] RPG, proving that he is still a major fanboy of [[Sonichu (comic)|both franchises]], and also confirmed that he still makes many purchases multiple times over for no apparent reason, such as of ''Wario's Woods''.

==Game Preferences==
Going on what evidence is available, such as what he has talked about on his websites and [[YouTube]], what his PSN profile shows the most effort put into, and what he decides to construct elaborate fan-works around, Chris has fairly childish, "casual" tastes in video games. Though he puts an inordinate level of effort and time into gaming, he does so playing stuff like Sonic, ''[[Pokémon]]'', ''[[Animal Crossing]]'', ''[[Guitar Hero]]'', and other games geared toward more mainstream and less "hardcore" audiences. His favorite racing game, ''ModNation Racers'', is a straightforward title that allows players to create their own tracks and cars. ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' earned a rabid following with its level editor, but otherwise, it is just another side-scrolling platform game (and Chris hardly strains the level editor to the limits of its potential). Much of his PSN trophy case is filled out with achievements obtained by playing simple downloadable demoscene and indie productions.

Chris has purchased a fair share of M-rated games, such as ''Family Guy: The Video Game'', ''Grand Theft Auto'', and ''Call of Duty''<ref>[[List of Chris's video games]]
</ref>, which shows that his interest in games is not necessarily limited to the E rating. These games, however, tend to be fairly shallow in terms of gameplay. ''[[Brutal Legend Plus|Brütal Legend]]'' isn't remarkably deep as far as gameplay is concerned; while the game is an M-rated title with swearing, decapitations, heavy metal music, and tricky real-time strategy elements, for the most part, the atmosphere is still jolly and humorous enough, and the majority of gameplay consists of exploring the world and having straightforward beat-'em-up fights. Some have questioned whether or not Chris's interest in ''Brütal Legend'' was because of an affinity for director [[Wikipedia:Tim Schafer|Tim Schafer]]'s other quirky, offbeat games such as ''[[Wikipedia:Psychonauts|Psychonauts]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Grim Fandango|Grim Fandango]]''. While Chris might be drawn to the perceived [[random-access humor]] of those games, it is more likely that they were too intelligent for him, and thus hold no appeal to his childish mind. Chris's interest in ''Brütal Legend'' was most likely due to Jack Black voicing the main character, and possibly [[Chris and music|his failed attempts to be seen as a connoisseur of music]].

The games that Chris owns are not necessarily the games that Chris plays. His PSN downloads strongly suggest that he spends money on his gaming hobby more or less out of compulsion. Witness the $65 he spent on downloadable content for ''Disgaea 3'', a game he had only played to 7% completion several months after originally buying all those downloads. It is reasonable to assume that Chris has similar spending habits in real life, a theory bolstered somewhat by his retro game collections and a house full of junk. Chris's collections of games for the Sega CD, Sega Saturn, and a couple of other now-dead consoles are dominated by bargain-bin trash, extremely common or poor quality games that are easily bought at low prices. No knowledgeable gamer would ever pay money for ''Power Factory Featuring C+C Music Factory'', except maybe as a gag gift, but Chris apparently thought it was worth owning. This habit seems to be picked up from [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] and continues to this day in the form of eShop shovelware and Virtual Console downloads.

His collection does a good job of telling us what sort of games Chris does not play, though. Outside of the ''Pokémon'' series, for instance, he evinces no interest in role-playing games. Most of the non-Pokémon RPGs in his collection, like ''Suikoden'' and ''Final Fantasy VII'', are PlayStation retro releases he impulse-bought through the PSN. Chris buys those up like penny candy – he has even downloaded several digital duplicates of PlayStation games of which he already owns physical copies. He has played a handful of the ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'' games, even earning all the trophies for ''Megadimension Neptunia VII'', but for the most part his interest was focused squarely on the anime adaptation of the games.

Despite being obsessed with ''Pokémon'', ''Animal Crossing'' and Nintendo consoles as a whole, he is not a hardcore Nintendo fan as some might suspect. He never seems to show interest in the latest content from Nintendo, and the hardcore Nintendo games he does own (such as games from the ''Metroid'', ''The Legend of Zelda'' and ''Mario'' franchises) are most likely just collecting dust on his game collection racks. However, a January 2014 leak by a Nintendo Employee revealed that Chris had, in fact, returned to his Nintendo roots, buying nearly every single game on the eShop.

He owns almost no sports games. In the [[Mailbag 2|Mailbag]], he once noted that "Sports titles do not really thrill me," although he did not explain exactly [[Obesity|why.]]

With a few exceptions, Chris has no apparent interest in video games marketed towards his own age group, which is unsurprising. "Hardcore" games aimed at "adults" are games that simply would not interest Chris because of his juvenile mindset. Video games (and anything else, for that matter) with mature themes that are not two-dimensionally crass and full of [[random-access humor]] would probably confuse and bore Chris and make him feel awkward and uncomfortable, adding to the fact he probably would not be able to get very far in the game. This is supported by the fact that he did try out ''Bioshock'', a first-person shooter with RPG elements, but only for a short time and never touched it again. Most likely the whole game itself flew right over Chris's head and he decided to play some ''Wheel of Fortune'' instead. However, ever since his [[100 2357.MOV|sixth declaration that he has left the internet]] in late [[2010]], some more high-profile games aimed at adults have appeared on his PSN Trophy list (such as ''Grand Theft Auto IV'' and ''Fallout: New Vegas''). Apparently the ''Hannah Montana'' PS3 game is no longer enough to fill his abundance of free time, and he has taken to playing games he would not normally be doing anything else with his life.

While he sometimes gets tagged with the "[[Japanophilia|weeaboo]]" label, Chris does not appear to prefer games made in Japan over any other part of the world. In fact, his favorite games of 2008-2009, the period where he has told us the most about what he plays, are pretty evenly divided between Japan (''Sonic'', ''Pokémon''), the United States (''Guitar Hero'', ''Brütal Legend''), Canada (''ModNation Racers''), and Europe (''LittleBigPlanet''). He counts a few Japanese Game Boy and Nintendo DS imports in his larger collection, but they are obviously titles he picked up to try and impress/bribe [[Megan Schroeder]] — almost all of them are spin-offs from popular anime, especially magical girl series like ''Sailor Moon'' and ''Pretty Cure''.

When Chris and Megan still got along well together, they were serious players of the arcade version of ''[[Soul Calibur]] III''. There is also an arcade in Chris's plans for the [[CWCville Shopping Center]]. However, given Chris's inclinations to retreat into the comfortable confines of his bedroom, the chances he goes to arcades are slim.

==Chris, the Brave Console Warrior==
Chris thinks the perennial "Console Wars" between rival manufacturers of game machines are extremely serious affairs, and engages in them with all of the bile and fervor of a 10-year-old child soldier in the PlayStation Army. On rare occasions, he has almost seemed rational in this respect, saying he "just doesn't like" or "doesn't care much for" the Xbox, but most of the time he does not mince words when describing the vile, loathsome, and [[Car Pranks|blatantly stupid]] [[HEXBox]]. By comparison, he has waxed poetic when describing the awesomeness of the [[PS3]], most prominently in his [[PS3 History Level]] for ''LittleBigPlanet''. According to [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Video games|Lucas]], Chris would even express his fury over the Xbox in public while hanging out at [[The GAMe PLACe]].

It is hard to tell where Chris's religious devotion to the PlayStation comes from, but to call it "religious" is not hyperbole. Like his faith in [[Chris and religion|GodJesus]], his support for Sony is blind and unthinking. Though he can come up with a simple justification for his opinions in a pinch — typically he brings up the annual fee for online gaming on Xbox Live — Chris shows no sign of having put any serious thought or research into his choice of consoles. His descriptions of the PS3's advantages in places like his [[Chris Chan Update 13 October 2008|Columbus Day 2008 video]] tend to sound like a collection of marketing buzzwords (as filtered through the mind of a [[Chris's room|cave-dwelling]] autist, anyway).

Interestingly, Chris was not always a blindly devoted fan of Sony. In the [[Animal Crossing Documentary]], we see that back in [[2003]], Chris pledged his allegiance to Nintendo and the GameCube, stating that both the predecessors of the PS3 stank as much as the original Xbox. His feelings changed when he bought a PS1 at a "rummage sale" for cheap, intending to resell it elsewhere for profit, but instead played it and found it was not bad.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref> One would expect this to be a lesson against nonsensical [[Chris and brand loyalty|brand loyalty]], but instead Chris just focused his hatred on Microsoft. Likely, prior to this Chris was a Sega fanatic at Nintendo's expense; if true, then it demonstrates how [[List of Chris's sweethearts|fickle]] Chris is regarding devotion.

When asked what his thoughts were on the then-up and coming [[Nintendo Switch]] in [[2017]], Chris responded in Chris [[Mailbag 29|fashion]], and simply stated that he has no [[Exercise|thoughts]] on it, due to being [[stress|preoccupied]]. He would eventually acquire his own Switch a few years later.

[[File:Thoughts_On_Switch_Jan_19_2017.png|thumb|[[Mailbag 29|Whatever]]]]

Unsurprisingly, Chris is ignorant of things he has chosen not to like. The only 360 game he's seemed to show interest in, [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xbox360/995562-dont-be-nervous-talking-to-girls "Don't Be Nervous Talking to Girls"], seen in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] being modified for the PS3, was suggested to him by the fans. Though the game is just a crappy dating sim, and there are other 360-exclusive games which would appeal to him, Chris claimed that it was the only game worth playing on the 360.

Even slinging mud at the names of the consoles is very serious business to Chris. In [[Lars Call]], Chris says he does not like it when people call PS3 the "PS Triple", because that is what [[trolls]] call it. Of course, this comes from a man who [[Chris and hypocrisy|ceaselessly rants about the "Hex Box"]].

==Chris and Online Gaming==
Perhaps unsurprisingly, given his antisocial nature, Chris is not fond of online multiplayer games in any genre, be they sports sims, shooters, racing games, or whatever else. Though he owns several games for the PS3 and other consoles that would allow him to play online and interact with other people, his PSN profile shows that he has put little time into multiplayer games.

In 2010 and afterward, two exceptions to this rule emerged. He did a good deal of online racing in ''ModNation Racers'' during the summer of 2010, while, early in 2011, Chris began to show an interest in an online role-playing game for the first time, ''DC Universe Online''. His fondness for ''ModNation'' competition eventually passed, but it remains to be seen whether or not he will develop a lasting interest in MMO gaming.

Dedicated observers of Chris's gaming habits may notice a bit of a paradox developing here: Chris claims to hate the Xbox 360 because Microsoft requires a $50 annual subscription fee for online multiplayer gaming. It is a mystery, then, why this would wind him up so badly, when he hardly plays any multiplayer games, but such is the nature of Chris. [[Mailbag]] correspondents have tried to point out the seeming contradiction here, not to mention the weird contrast between Chris's thriftiness as far as Xbox Live is concerned and the massive amounts of money he willing wastes on worthless digital trinkets through Nintendo and the PSN. For all the good it has done, though, they may as well have tried to change his opinion of [[Asperger syndrome]].

In later years, Chris would begin playing online games on his Switch and PC, playing titles such as ''[[Tetris 99]]'' and ''[[Payday 2]]''.

===Chris, the Trophy Whore===
While Chris has little evident interest in directly interacting with other humans in online games, he does seem to enjoy building up a massive trophy case to passively show off on his PlayStation Network profile. He has doggedly played through a number of games in order to earn every available achievement, and on occasion he appeals to his [[fanbase]] for help in earning trophies. For instance, he begged readers of his [[Twitter]] feed to download his ''ModNation Racers'' levels so he could pick up one more trophy.

Slacker that he is, Chris prefers to put forth as little effort as possible to earn his trophies. Presented with a trophy in ''LittleBigPlanet 2'' that asked him to contribute a custom level to the game's online community, he fulfilled the requirement by uploading an empty level with no work put into it. (When this level was deleted by the community's administrators, he took the next-easiest route and uploaded his old levels made with the first ''LittleBigPlanet''.) In an [[Jackie E-mails 6|e-mail to Jackie]], he expressed great pleasure when the ''ModNation'' experience system was patched to make certain trophies easier to acquire.

Counting duplicate games (like ports to different Sony consoles) and games separated into episodes, Chris has earned all the trophies in over 76 games on the PSN.

==Chris and PC Games==
Games for personal [[computers]] are conspicuously absent from Chris's collection and his evident game-playing habits. The only sign that he has ever even owned any PC games comes from his eBay account, which shows that he tried to auction off a collection of vintage ''Dungeons & Dragons'' role-playing games for the PC in the summer of 2008. He also owned a copy of the first ''[[Lego Island]]'' game for PC (as seen by his possession of the Infomaniac minifigure – which was only obtainable from early copies of the said game). In the [[Fanmail Reading]] video, after a [[troll|fan]] sent him a copy of ''[[wikipedia:Half-Life 2|Half-Life 2]]'', Chris explained, "I don't play PC games. I used to, but I don't anymore." He failed to indicate why he gave them up, though. In [[Mumble 1|his first Mumble chat]], he claimed to "remember ''[[wikipedia:Touhou|Touhou]]''", but later backpedaled and said "I never really heard of that."

In his early childhood years, Chris routinely played video games on a [[Commodore 64]] computer and even remembered playing educational games such as ''Number Munchers'' and ''The Oregon Trail'' on an Apple II computer at [[Chris's education#Greene County Primary School|Greene County Primary School]] (admitting to a preference for the C64)<ref>[[Warhol Tweets#Chris larps as his younger self]]</ref>. In [[January 2026]], he would purchase and [[Commodore 64 Ultimate Review|later review]] its modern remake the Commodore 64 Ultimate.

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]] and him acquiring a decent computer, Chris has picked up PC gaming. He has a [[Steam]] profile, and has played titles ''Payday 2'' and some ''Sonic'' games.<ref>[[:File:Steam - ChrisChanSonichu - Games - 7Dec2017.png]]</ref>

==Chris, the Industry Insider==
Chris gets most of his information about the gaming industry from comparatively mainstream sources. He was an avid reader of ''Game Informer'' magazine. As for publications and/or other media sources that have since gone defunct, he was also a dedicated consumer of Sony's interactive online magazine ''Qore'', and regularly followed the G4 cable network. Chris even apparently took the {{w|Spike Video Game Awards}} (later reorganized into the ''slightly'' more reputable {{w|The Game Awards|Game Awards}}) seriously,<ref>[[Congrats, Jack Black]]</ref> which puts him about five years behind anybody with even a passing interest in the games' business.

==Chris, the Game Designer==
{{main|Sonichu (game)|Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles}}

At various times, especially during the [[Miyamoto saga]], but going as far back as the late 1990s (when he had a prophetic dream of a Sonic game for the Game Boy), Chris has imagined that he could launch himself into a career as a game designer. It is telling, however, that nearly all of his "ideas" for potential video game projects simply involve swapping Sonichu or other Chris-spawned characters into an existing game concept. ''[[Pokémon: Lightning Version]]'' is a Pokémon RPG with Sonichu in it. ''[[Sonichu Adventure]]'' is ''Sonic Adventure'' with Sonichu in it. ''[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]'' is ''Gundam: Journey to Jaburo'' with [[Megan Schroeder|Megan's]] quasi-retarded brother in it, and so on.

The closest he has gotten to coming up with something like an original idea is ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'', and it is not actually known what that game is supposed to amount to, beyond what Chris drew on the cover, and occasional haphazard mentions. It is entirely possible that the answer is unknown to Chris himself.

Nevertheless, Chris sincerely believes that his characters and game ideas are ready for commercial success. He once rejected an e-mail from the Mailbag that brought up the notion of a not-for-profit fan-made Sonichu game, and brushed off similar suggestions in his first [[IRC (16 October 2008)|IRC fan chat]]. In [[Chris dispels videogame rumors|the video about dispelling rumors of an official Sonichu game]], he scoffed at the idea of his game ideas being made with 2D graphics.

===Modding and Customization===
One of the great ironies of Chris's existence is that he loves to create and share his creations, even though he possesses almost no genuine innate creativity. He tends to gravitate strongly towards video games that allow him to create his own content and share it online.

Since console games are often not modifiable, while PC game modding tends to demand more technical skill than he possesses, Chris has only been able to show off his creativity in this field so much. That said, the PS3 games ''LittleBigPlanet'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' exerted a powerful grip on him with their customization capabilities. Chris made a ton of levels in ''LittleBigPlanet,'' dropping out of sight for the better part of a month when he first acquired the retail version of the game. Likewise, he has made levels, characters and custom cars for ''ModNation Racers'', and it resulted in a similar disappearance during the summer of 2010. His output has not shown too much actual competence, but it is not for lack of time and effort spent.

Even in games that offer only light customization features, Chris makes a point of personalizing his experience as much as possible. He spent considerable time on a ''Guitar Hero'' band, up to drawing [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg|disturbing pictures]] of his virtual bandmates. The amount of time he spent on tweaking his ''Animal Crossing'' villages is simply colossal. According to the [[Regina e-mails]], Chris made a similarly big deal about ''F-Zero GX'' and ''Jet Set Radio'', even though both games limit their customization options to things like swapping around car parts or personalizing small decals.

Likewise, as the gallery below displays, Chris enjoys customizing his game hardware. He has splattered Sonichu artwork all over his Gamecube, a Nintendo DS, a couple of Game Boy Advances, a PSP, his now-deceased original PS3, and possibly other consoles or handhelds. One of his [[Pokéwalker of Fail|Pokéwalkers]] also appears to have received the Sonichu treatment, being repainted in blue and yellow.

====Sonic World====
Chris became interested in Sonic the Hedgehog fan game and modding project [[Sonic World]] in late 2020. After joining its [[Discord]] group, he requested creators make based on Sonichu and his female obsession at the time, [[ProjectSNT]]. In December of that year, Chris found a Sonichu mod and wished to add his voice acting into it. While he did want to get into contact with the original creator and ask if he could add to the mod, Chris opted going without permission and downloaded the mod, replaced the original voice clips with his own, and reposted it. Because of the original mod's appropriation, Chris was banned from the mod-hosting website GameBanana. He was banned from the Sonic World Discord group not long after due to his passive-aggressive-yet-[[Messiah complex|megalomaniacal]] confrontation with the Sonichu mod's creator.

==Chris's Perception of Video Game Technology==
Chris obviously has no idea about how video games or video game consoles work. For example, as seen in a panel of ''Sonichu'' #10, he seems to think that games are interchangeable and can work on any console ("DO NOT BUY OR DOWNLOAD ILLEGAL COPIES OF L.B.P. ON Wii OR XBox360; IT IS PUNISHABLE BY LAW!"), even though he could easily check and see that he cannot play his copy of ''LittleBigPlanet'' on his Wii, although he is either too lazy, or is afraid of having [[14 Branchland Court|his house]] raided by [[jerkop]]s.

Neither is he aware of the technology's current capabilities. As stated in the survey of [[Chris and reality]], he once suggested that Nintendo should create a PokéBall peripheral which could display holographs, which can only be seen in science fiction, currently.

==Decline of gaming passion==
Chris's passion for gaming seems to have relatively subsided by the late 2010s. By 2020, it had been months since he touched his [[PS4]] and has not shown much interest in the new PlayStation's first and third party titles. A look at his then-recent [[Twitter|tweets]] and [[Wish list]] suggested he was busy [[Television|binging TV shows and movies]]. However, Chris continued to regularly play [[Tetris 99]] on the [[Nintendo Switch]] from 2019 up until his arrest in 2021.

On 11 September 2020, during Chris's phase of role-playing as Sonichu, Chris was asked the following question in [[Discord Q&A 6]]:
{{quoteboxgreen|Dear Christine, are you getting any of the next gen consoles? If so, what games are you excited for?}}

Chris responded:

{{quoteboxyellow|Taking you mean the new [[Playstation|PS5]] or [[Hex-Box|XBox S]] generation of consoles; Mama had not really given that much thought, and I haven’t as much either, considering we’ll be in a [[COVID-19#Stopping the pandemic|new timeline free of this pandemic and all of that.]]}}

==During the jail saga==

During Chris's time behind bars, for perhaps the first time in his life, he was deprived of any ability to access his game collection. The various letters he sent to assorted acquaintances over the course of his confinement made little mention of his electronic hoard, and the status of his collection is itself unknown – with Chris having been away from his home for the better part of two years at time of writing, and reports that items belonging to him were thrown out of the house, there is every likelihood that the games and consoles he cherished so dearly and intended to pass down to children of his own have simply been sold off, given away, or tossed in a landfill.

However, in an apparent bid to make the most of his newfound freedom after his release in March 2023, he was swift to visit a local Walmart and purchase another Nintendo Switch, according to an eyewitness account. This account was swiftly corroborated by others who posted images of Chris's online activity, images that paint an unsurprising picture; since his new acquisition, he has wasted little time catching up on games he has missed. Pokemon is front and center, as screenshots of his playtime hours and tweets he has posted suggest he has purchased at least four games within that franchise since leaving jail. This was clarified on the 26th of February 2024 when he posted photos of his entire on-console library to Twitter, confirming that since his release he has purchased ''Pokemon Legends Arceus'', ''Shining Pearl'' and ''Scarlet'' – despite insisting that he wouldn't even play the latter until his own imaginary Pokemon games are released – with the possibility of ''New Pokemon Snap'' also being a post-jail acquisition. He has also purchased several other titles that were released while he was behind bars, including but not limited to ''Metroid Dread'', ''Sonic Frontiers'', ''Superstars'' and ''Colors Ultimate'', and ''Life is Strange Remastered'' and ''True Colors''. Assuming these were bought from standard marketplaces and assuming standard Switch game prices, Chris stands to have spent anywhere from 40 to 60 dollars on each of these alone, to say nothing of acquiring an assortment of indie releases. In total, Chris has spent somewhere around $1500 on Switch games, not including the Switch itself, since his release from jail, raising the total spent to over $3500.

More curiously, his PSN profile was spotted as being active online after years of silence in August 2023, showing that he was dabbling with the demo version of Street Fighter 6 – on a PS''5'', despite Chris stating on a [[November 2023 livestreams#First JCWCSP Gaming Live Stream %E2%9A%A1%EF%B8%8F%F0%9F%92%99%E2%9A%A1%EF%B8%8F|November 2023 livestream]] that he does not yet own a PS5. Compared to his Switch usage, however, his passion for the Playstation still appears to have simmered; since his time in jail he has only half-heartedly experimented with a few Vocaloid games, before appearing to settle on using a PS4 as another way to play Minecraft. Chris uploaded a number of images in late 2023 detailing the interior of his [[Big Island House|new house in Big Island, VA]], and two of them feature a shelf containing several games for multiple consoles. From this image, it can be seen that alongside his Switch and PS4, he still owns an Xbox One and a PS3, both possibly collected from his old home. In addition, the games on the lowermost shelf appear to be for the PS Vita from their boxes, the shelf space they take up suggesting that Chris has significantly expanded the number of games he owns for it. Whether or not the PS Vita he has is the same one he acquired in 2012 is unknown.

Even so, this nevertheless shows that even after time away from his electronic stash, time in which self-reflection could have been carried out and in which he could have sworn himself to spending only in moderation, Chris is still entirely capable of flushing away hundreds on new consoles and games, still more than willing to pony up vast sums of money in support of his passions, even in the face of an extremely uncertain future. Old habits always die hard – at least, for Chris.

==Gallery==
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==See also==
* [[List of Chris's video games]]
* [[List of Chris's PSN game downloads]]
* [[Club Nintendo]]
* [[Fandoms]]
* [[PlayStation 3]]

==References==
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==External links==
* [https://psnprofiles.com/Sonichu Chris's PlayStation Network profile]

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Chris and nostalgia

2026-02-26T18:48:16Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Chris and his childhood */

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[[Image:CWC12andson.jpg|thumb|[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|Chris and Sonichu in the Good ol' days!]].]]

{{quote|I REALLY Miss the good times of those days.|Chris reminiscing on his High School days<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts##productofpublicschool]]</ref>}}

'''Nostalgia''' is a sentimental longing or wistful affection for the past, typically for periods and/or places with happy personal associations. It is associated with a yearning for the past, its personalities, and events, particularly for the "[[Manchester High School|good old days]]" or [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|childhood events]].<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia</ref>

The foundation of much of [[Chris]]'s [[Adult Chronicles|adult life]] has been his fixation on the past, especially for [[Chris and brand loyalty|things that have had deep significance to his life]] in order to escape from the present, whether it be through [[My Little Pony|cartoons]], interacting with past [[gal pals]] and [[sweethearts]], or reminiscing past experiences with [[trolls]].

==Nostalgia in Chris's life==
Although viewed as a mental disease when it was first discovered, nostalgia, in the modern age, is seen as a natural, common, positive emotion for escaping the [[Chris and reality|confines of reality]]. Seeing how difficult it is for Chris to grasp reality as it is in its present, the way he grasps the past is unimaginably worse.

Chris's nostalgia comes from a wide variety of sources. It can be speculated that the main source of Chris's nostalgia in unhealthy amounts is his [[stress]]. At a psychological level, nostalgia is the result of negative feelings and results in the increase in of one's positive emotions.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia#Improve_mood</ref> It can also be used as a coping mechanism for dealing with whatever stressful situation one may be in.

Given how Chris currently lives his life, constantly dealing with [[weens]], and being denied [[china]] by every girl he meets, Chris will sometimes use his past experiences in a strange way to relieve his stress. For example, at the end of the [[Jessica Quinn|Jessica]] [[saga]], Chris, feeling awfully depressed from losing his girlfriend for the umpteenth time, decided to contact [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] on her [[Facebook]], and hook up with her again,<ref>https://archive.md/Mtsr7</ref> even after having been accusing her of being behind his current situation for the past four years.<ref>[[Megan Schroeder#The Blame Game]]</ref>

Other times, Chris will hold onto past experiences that gave him grief. For example, before attempting to contact Megan ever again, Chris always held onto how Megan was somehow responsible for his problems in his life for supposedly leaking information of him on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] with [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. This attachment to such events can become so strong that eventually, Chris will [[Chris and anger|snap]] from all of the added stress. For example, in [[September 2013 Facebook Posts|several 2013 September Facebook posts]], Chris continuously curses Megan along with [[Michael Snyder|other]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|fruits]] of his bad memories.

==Anemoia: nostalgia for a time before Chris was born==
As with many people, Chris also experiences nostalgia for media released before he was born. Much like a modern kid who loves 80s music and will tell you all about how Queen is the best band on the planet, Chris has a liking for ''[[I Love Lucy]]'', ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'' and other media released during [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and [[Bob Chandler|Bob]]'s time. This is common for people who spend more time around their parents than they do around their peers.

==Chris and his childhood==
When it comes to nostalgia, people tend to cherish in it in order to relive a far simpler time – while this is perfectly normal in most people, Chris's obsession with his past takes this normal aspect of the human psyche and twists it to pathological degrees. Chris revels in his childhood memories and perusing child like fantasies to fill up the stressful parts of his life, purely to ignore them.

Well before Chris had achieved infamy online, Chris wrote [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|a booklet]] as a birthday present for his childhood friend [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]]. In it, he fondly spoke of playing in her yard during their formative years but casually recollected when she locked him in her home's crawlspace (after tricking him into looking for Casper the Friendly Ghost) and doesn't mention a single moment in which she was nice to him at all. In contrast to how [[Chris and anger|he usually responds]] to being trolled (or at least slighted), he shrugged it off as kids doing silly things sometimes, likely because he preferred to selectively remember fun times he had with her.

After getting a bear hug at the 2018 [[MAGfest]] from a fan who lifted his 212+ pound body off the ground, Chris commented on the nostalgia he felt, saying, "Hey, did anyone get video or photo of @Spinalpalm hugging me and lifting me up high after the Panel? I would love to have that video to watch over and over. I never thought I could ever be lifted up high by anyone since I got too heavy for my parents."<ref>[[January 2018 tweets#Much love for MAGfest fans]]</ref>

==Manchester High==
{{main|Manchester High School}}
[[File:Chris schooldesk drawing.jpg|thumb|A happy Chris at a schooldesk, drawn 17 years after he had graduated high school.<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts]]</ref>]]

Of all of the memories Chris holds dear, he seems to be most attached to his years in Manchester High School. It isn't too hard to see why; his years there were among the last where he frequently got out of his house and interacted in a social environment. This is best shown with the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video, the Lego replica, and him wearing the jacket (as shown with the [[26 December 2014]] incident). He also purchased a schooldesk, which he uses as a workstation, allowing him to further transition back to his happiest years. For many years, he fixated on the idea of a high school reunion, but his numerous attempts at trying to hold one failed. Likely for the best, as the MHS of real life can't possibly compare with the one in his mind.

Like many people who overindulge in nostalgia, Chris has a rather warped view of his time at Manchester High in retrospect. He often looks back on it as a time when he was surrounded by friends and could have easily obtained the true love he seeks to this day, if only he had known how good he had it. In reality, his more down-to-earth recollections of high school paint a picture of Chris being bullied, fairly isolated and disengaged, with even his friends only really sticking around because the educational setting required them to.







==References==
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Chris and socialization

2026-02-26T18:32:01Z

FurryChristorian789: /* In real life */

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[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|Chris, surrounded by family and friends.]]

Chris is somewhat capable of '''socializing''', despite what one may assume, given aspects like his social awkwardness and the epic failure of his [[Love Quest]]. Being a nerd and, as of [[2014]], a [[Tomgirl|member of the LGBT community]], Chris has common interests and values with his friends. Awkwardness arises when Chris attempts to take part in conversations which exceed his limited interests, as his broken social filter and lack of common social etiquette due to his [[autism]] can lead to him saying [[Honest Content|inappropriate things]] or attempting to steer the topic to cartoons, video games, [[Messiah complex|godhood]], or the [[SLGBTQ]].

==In real life==
The earliest known example of Chris socializing with someone other than [[Borb]] were his interactions with [[Sarah Hammer]], who moved in next door to the Chandlers when he was approximately three years old. Chris fondly remembers using her swing set, playing hide and seek among other things <ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood]]</ref> <ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>, but he, far from a sound judge of character even in his younger days, seemed oblivious to Sarah's less than good intentions. At least twice, she could have caused him harm of her own volition, locking him in a crawlspace and convincing him the berries of a honeysuckle (which can cause [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|stomach problems]]) tasted like honey. [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|He nonchalantly documented both incidents]], in stark contrast to [[Kick the Autistic|what he thinks of perceived wrongdoers]], although he eventually acknowledged that she was "the first one to troll and bully" him long before anyone on the Internet had.<ref>[[December 2025 social media posts#Friendship]]</ref>

He stated his formative years also included interactions with "other neighborhood children"<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>. Chris himself noted [[Gal-pals|they were mainly girls]], though he also befriended [[Joshua Martinez]] (who'd eventually troll him) when attending speech therapy.

More notably, [[Manchester High|in his high school years]], he attended classes and ate lunch with a female circle of friends (because he found the [[JERKS|males]], except for his older friend [[Joseph Herring]], to be immature). However, the only time they were ever known to have spent time with each other outside Manchester High was for [[My big 18th party|his 18th birthday party]], and even then, no photos of the occasion show him and even one of the girls near each other. Chris found out about 15 years later that they were never legitimate friends; their attention was [[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals|arranged]] by [[Bob]] and the principal in a misguided attempt to socialize Chris.

After high school, and in particular after he was suspended from [[college]], Chris used whatever free time he wasn't using at home to attempt socializing in the wild, whether it be for attempting to score [[sweetheart]]s or otherwise. His most notable social endeavors occurred at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where he met [[Megan Schroeder]]. The two formed a strong friendship, but Chris failed to pick up how she merely wanted to be just friends with him, even when she outright told him so numerous times. To cut a long story short, [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|things went]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|very rocky]], and by 2008 Megan had severed ties with him; Chris was also banned from the aforementioned GAMe PLACe, due to acting too hostile to other patrons and card game players.

His other notable social endeavors occurred at the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], which he'd haunt regularly. When he wasn't shopping at its stores or going on [[Date with Emily|ill-fated dates]], Chris spent a lot of his time [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer|pacing around]] in the hopes that he would eventually meet a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. Due to his antics, Chris received many run-ins with [[jerkops]] and temporary (eventually permanent) bans from the outlet.

In [[2014]], Chris began attending [[Cville Pride]] and the [[Impulse Gay Social Club]], both of which would gradually become frequent hangout spots for him. These would serve as stepping stones for Chris to further grow out of his shell, and he later began regularly attending other places of that ilk, including LGBT events at [[University of Virginia]]. The next year would see him attending [[The End Games]] (a card game store) before being banned in 2018. There, he met a few adult [[Pokémon League friends]] who hung out with him outside of the club.

[[File:Cwc cville pride 2017.jpg|thumb||200px|left|At Cville Pride.]]

Sadly, though, Chris regressed back into staying at home thanks to what the [[Idea Guys]] did to him, giving up real life socializing in favor of his [[imaginary friends]] and internet [[enablers]]. He would nevertheless continue going to certain places such as [[conventions]] until [[Jail Saga|late 2021]].
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==Over the Internet==
The Internet has been one of Chris's primary tools for socializing. Chris has regularly used social media websites, dating websites, and some forums as tools to talk with others and hopefully make either some new friends and/or sweethearts.

In 2017, he made attempts to socialize on Twitter with women he saw as potential [[gal-pals]], including voice actresses from some of his favorite shows. His tweets seem to illustrate how he tries to fit into conversations - namely, that he likes to shoehorn in references to cartoons.<ref>[[2017 tweets]]</ref> These attempts, as time went on, [[TF2 Analysis|didn't go over too well]].

===Planet Dolan===

{{main|Planet Dolan|DoopieDoOver|LadyOfTheCosmo}}

[[File:Doopiedrawing.jpg|thumb|Chris commissioned this from Doopie.]]

Doopie is a voice actress/animator for the YouTube channel [[Planet Dolan]]. Chris discovered the channel in August 2016 and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His social awkwardness in full display, he tweeted to her on the subjects of poop,<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref> his hatred of online dating,<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref> and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt.<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>

In June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon. A Like on her post, which is hidden behind a paywall, implies that Chris is pledging $25 per month to her.<ref>https://archive.md/52tZh</ref> He has also paid her $25 for a commission to serve as a profile picture. Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for $50, ostensibly to help him and his mother.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>

Doopie is fully aware of Chris’s online reputation, and sees him as just another customer, as she explained:

{{quoteboxyellow|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.

(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}

On 25 August 2017, Chris tweeted to [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a close friend of Doopie, on Twitter. He consequently got destroyed by her in an ensuing tweet war.

==Conventions==
{{Main|List of conventions attended by Chris}}

Chris has attended many conventions over the years, initially only having been to two in the early to mid-2000s, but later expanding to many in the 2010s. For him, he's generally had a great time attending them; it's a rare chance for him to get out of his house and surround himself with like-minded people, therefore making it easier to Chris to socialize with others. He's stated he's felt more accepted at conventions, though it's debatable whether this interpretation of his is true or not.

==Looking forward==
In [[August 2021]], Chris was arrested after it was revealed he had engaged in [[Affair With Mother|incestuous acts]] with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Chris eventually received an [[autism disorder deferred disposition]] after a lengthy court process (that included a stint in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], a stay at a [[Western State Hospital|psychiatric hospital]], and a [[Gateway Homes|group home]] transfer). Due to the deferred disposition program, Chris was released from jail in [[March 2023]] and his case was dismissed in [[August 2023]]. Chris gradually returned to social media where he resumed his usual antics.

A mysterious woman nicknamed [[Flutter]] by Chris has been routinely spotted hanging out with him in public following the dismissal of his charge; she had reached out to Chris while he was in jail, and her role or purpose in interacting with him is unknown.

Chris apparently still maintains contact with his mother, although now living separately from her. According to a comment in April 2024 by Gamer from Mars, Chris said he meets with her about once a month.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Conspiracy#Interview comments]]</ref> While Chris didn't socialize much with his extended family prior to the incest, he may have a more difficult time with it now, given that his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] banned him from their home upon initially learning of the incest.

Even after his release, the affair still comes back to haunt him. Chris attempted to resume going to [[conventions]] as he had before the incest charge, but quickly found himself [[ban]]ned from three - [[Animate! Raleigh]], [[BABSCon]] (the con literally declaring him persona non grata) and [[HarmonyCon]], in which he claimed to be undergoing a [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]]. He was, however, lucky enough to spend one whole day at the [[List of conventions#Festival of Light|Festival of Light]] in [[May 2025]] without incident.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and kindness]]
*[[COVID-19]]

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Megan Schroeder

2026-02-20T17:04:33Z

FurryChristorian789:

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{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroeder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = {{•}} Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. {{•}} Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested {{•}} Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. {{•}} Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|arbitarch|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris and socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life. Megan was one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[Fiona|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage| fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2005]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|300px|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]
[[File:Cchanmegan.jpg|thumb|...and again]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris and sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and asking Chris to purchase things from [[eBay]] for her.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both adults who passed their time playing [[card games]] mostly marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Megan wants a Tintin tape|Megan emails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Chris wants to date Megan at McDonald's|Megan emails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and began his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

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==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie e-mails Part 2#Chris lies about The Game Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

In a call between Bob and [[ThePCAssassins]] Bob tells the caller that Megan is a [[Bob Call 6|"little low life in the gutter bitch."]]

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==CPU Red Heart==
{{Quote|But anyway, Megan, your counterpart in C197, ever since her pow- er, sailor senshi powers, Sailor Megtune, have been stripped after the unfortunate break-up events of 06 or 07, or it may have been 08, that actually happened between you and I, not going to go into further detail.}}

In the video [[Dimensional Merge Announcements]], where Chris announces the Dimensional Merge, Chris mentions that Megan herself has become a CPU Goddess in the form of Sailor Megtune, aka '''CPU Red Heart'''. Chris also mentions how his prior grudge towards her has also dissipated, and encourages fans to not harass her.

Chris then told [[The Captain]] to text Megan, and then the following post on Kiwi Farms. According to him, Megan was genuinely touched by Chris declaring her as a CPU Goddess, and feels sorry for him, but also decided not to meet with him under any circumstances.

{{quoteboxkiwi|This video legitimately makes me sad.

He's very muted here.. totally not like him at all.

He did text me asking me to send it to Megan so I did.. I'm waiting for her response.

Edit: She's genuinely touched and really liked whoever is posting as Donald Trump. She feels bad for Chris but will not be meeting up with him under any circumstances.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Captain texts Megan]]</ref>}}

==Other Mentions==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 [[January 2016]], in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claimed that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Complimenting Megan Schroeder]]</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]] (during the timeframe when [[2018 Twitter account compromise|Chris's Twitter account was being compromised]]) Chris's Twitter account declared that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, the Twitter account backtracked on the claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref> Due to the account compromise, it is unclear whether the messages had been sent by Chris.

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] Discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], described having viewed the ''Chris Chan Vs. The Internet'' trailer and then had an emotional breakdown over his perceived issues with Megan.<ref>[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]</ref>
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further described his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claimed that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.

On 5 [[November 2020]], in another chat in The Place, Chris described the coverage of Megan in the Chris Chan Youtube series ''[[Beneath the Bridge]]'' as a "real mixed bag", admitting that he had been cringing and crying throughout most of it.<ref>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>
{{quotebox|The multi-part vids about Megan were a real mixed bag; more than half of the time, it hit the nerves in the core of this body, some cringe, a bunch of crying, and so on.}}

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

On 25 [[March 2021]], in a yet another chat in The Place, Chris, while role-playing as a psychic detective of a future murder, brought up Megan. Having narrowed down the supposed victims to one of two, Chris claimed that Megan will need extra defense. [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] quickly discouraged Chris from considering this further, reminding him that Megan has a gun and knows how to defend herself.<ref>[[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]]</ref>
{{quotebox|I’m not finalized which of the two, but the victim is either in California or Virginia.
And, Megan Schroeder, in Virginia, here, is one who will (also) need some extra defense on her part during this present time as well.}}

In the 17 [[October 2023]] video [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], Chris singled out Megan during a segment in which he complained about people blocking him, saying that she and others had their chance to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|actually be kind and compassionate towards him]].

In the 19 [[May 2025]] video [[Grounded Deep Response]], while attempting to do an [[introspection]] on his public image, Chris brought up Megan while describing the effects of toxic people and trolls in his life. In a slip of the tongue, he started to describe his association with her as a "relationship", before adjusting himself to "friendship."

On 19 [[February 2026]], in his social media post about admitting to various wrongdoings, he gives Megan Schroeder a passing mention in reference to "bodily impulse and typical sex wants" during his [[Love Quest]], also describing his infamous nonconsensual cartoon smut drawing as having "sinned hard".<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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| Stardate = January 2019
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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be affecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
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Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
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Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
Image:0942-DogFromMegan.JPG
</gallery></center>

==References==
{{CWCipedia|chris=Megan Schroeder}}
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Bob Chandler

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{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref>}}

{{quote|All around the world, everyone prays to their own God, but they are all praying to the same God.|Bob's alleged last words.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#Chris is the Avatar, Bob's last words]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, insulting Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
|imagesize = 250
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[Cole Smithey#Relationship with Barbara and Bob|Republican cur]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
|label3 = Date of Birth
|day = 4
|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
|deathmonth = 9
|deathyear = 2011
|gender = {{gender|gender=male}}
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|label8 = Height
|ft = 5
|in = 7.5
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980, divorce) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011, his death)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Hollomon (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
|saga = {{saga|childhood|cn}}, {{saga|greene|cn}}, {{saga|bearstein|cn}}, {{saga|julie|cn}}, {{saga|emily|cn}}, {{saga|ivy|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
}}

'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack," came from this incident, wherein he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for alleged abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that both he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child despite the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard, hoping they'd create things there (though sadly, nothing of note was ever created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from his concern for Chris's foolish behavior and from his occasional attempts to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's life, noting that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb, he at least made the effort, even if his attempts were futile or harmful at worst. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed, much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks. Whether in person or over the phone, Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone. According to Chris, he was also a strong negotiator.<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who then had to become the man of the house. Chris occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later, in 2021, Chris would disgrace Bob's memory by repeatedly having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized before eventually returning to the residence, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned for good.

==Biography==
Bob was born on 4:15 PM at a medical arts building in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}},<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Date with Emily#Bob's work history (0:07:18–0:16:58)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Hollomon (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

[[File:Robert Sr 1942.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|Bob in army uniform, 1946]]

[[File:Bob_Chandler_1945.png|thumb|right|200px|Bob Chandler (left) as a Boy Scout in 1945.]]

Bob has said that he was, "...interested in the world," around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]; his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School in {{w|Fort Monmouth}}, New Jersey, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Bob recounted a reckless decision he made during his time in the Army after returning from Korea for the Christmas holiday in 1947. He hitchhiked to New York City, where he stayed for two weeks before running out of money, and then had to figure out how to get back to Fort Monmouth.. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref>

Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and played French horn for the band and orchestra there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref name = "Meet">[[Date with Emily#Meet the Parent (0:05:20–0:07:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, was a member of {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

A 1946 military record included Bob's occupation while he was a student as "tinsmith, coppersmith, and sheet metal worker".

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for four years, where he designed a variety of electrical subsystems, including relays, telephones and valve systems. Initially, he was working with the radar systems in test-planning automatic test equipment. With Western Electric, Bob and his co-worker filed a patent for electrical terminal block in 1955, which was published in 1959.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US2884613A/en</ref> During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings lived for the rest of their lives.

He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an email to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "...might not have arrived so soon,"<ref name="Barbara" /> despite the international field of electronics having so many contributors that Bob likely had zero significant influence.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#A Word from Snorlax]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60 after 31 years of service for General Electric.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his, "...natural inclination for logic," although he was, "...inundated," by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> but he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky. He apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of {{w|Moldova}}, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref name = "Retired Life">[[Date with Emily#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 29 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1961) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1964).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Because of this, Chris did not know he had a niece via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]], until she was 8 years old,<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref> and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more distant. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and the last they had heard was that she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]].]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claimed that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway," though Barb has disputed this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This version of events may be why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them, "...acting out as a couple of drunken losers."<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she ultimately married Bob because, "...he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barb and Bob did not have sex for at least two decades before Bob's passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref> Chris also recalled Bob and Barb would routinely argue with each other, in which he felt the need to play "peacemaker" and the constant shouting matches caused him [[Stress|stress]] which he struggled to [[Chris and coping|cope with]].<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness ruined the relationship between himself and his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "...when that fuck Bob finally drops,"<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. At the least, Bob certainly knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name = "Meet" />

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

Bob's relationship with Chris was rather complex. While Bob was considered to be a better parent than his wife [[Barb]], he was by no means the good ol' pop-pop Chandler many thought he was. While Bob at least tried to help Chris, his attempts at doing so were either futile, misguided or even harmful to Chris in the long term.

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio." Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris were more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography, such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but figured (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and can only associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob had difficulties understanding Chris's [[Autism]] and vehemently refused to get Chris the help he needed, likely out of fear-driven inertia that is typical for people of his age and generation. In fact, he fought tooth and nail for years to keep Chris from getting the special education he needed to cope with the real world. It was the very reason why Bob rented a second home in Chesterfield County, so Chris couldn't attend special classes that Greene County recommended. Bob was most likely under the impression that Chris would be thrown into a lunatic asylum, lobotomized and that Chris needs to be sheltered all his life because of it, never mind his autistic [[Savannah|granddaughter]], who lives a relatively normal life.

When Chris entered [[Manchester High]], Bob arranged for [[Gal pal|a bunch of girls]] to be friends with Chris. He gave Chris money to hand it to at least one gal pal, claiming it was for her Friendship and Attention.

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections to others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. Bob's pieces were decently priced, generally for $5 per set, though he tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked by barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements [sic], annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy.' Bob also engaged in friendly and interesting conversation with [[ThePCAssassins]] many times through [[2010]] and [[2011]], further disproving Chris's belief. The antagonism to which Chris refers was likely Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason as to why he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love," "support," "gratitude," and "willingness to help." Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional [[Mumble 1|frustration]] over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appeared that Bob was the source of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank calls#Snake Productions Calls Bob Chandler]]</ref>

After Chris got his [[CADD]] degree, instead of telling Chris to get to work as any other parent would, he encouraged Chris to stay home just so he could continue to get his taxpayer-funded [[tugboat]].

He never seemed to get past the notion that Chris could and had already achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's emails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a "fag", even though he indirectly contributed to it through his unbalanced approach of socializing Chris.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since his passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on in his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often sees Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris later expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

In the [[Incest Call]], Chris claimed he was better at [[Affair with Mother|pleasuring]] [[Barb]] than his own father. One can only imagine Bob's reaction to this news if he were still alive to bear witness to what his son has become.

Despite his best efforts to the contrary, Chris, his second chance at being a father, was Bob's greatest failure as a parent, even when factoring in his strained relationship with his other children.

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>[[Date with Emily#Eating spaghetti and conversing (0:36:49–0:44:46)]]</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia,<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref> and Czechoslovakian friends in late 1970s, who were illegal immigrants escaping Czechoslovakia. Chris said Bob and Barb enjoyed conversing and drinking {{w|Slivovitz}} with them and that Bob would drive to Maryland to buy Slivovitz.<ref>[[Regina_e-mails#Random-access_humor_demonstration]]</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had, "...a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]],"<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
{{See also|Death of Bob Chandler}}
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on Social Security as well as his General Electric pension.<ref name = "Retired Life" /> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to 'swing with the music' on his swing there.<ref name="Retired Life" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Date with Emily#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob, "...has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [sic] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and [[White-Knighting|white knights]] alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

In [[Sonichu 9#Episode 19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's [[Oedipus complex]], Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later, "...told me he accepts and love ''[sic]'' me for who I am," shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guy]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer [[Ted Bundy]].

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
*[[Christmas|25 December]] [[2004]]: Bob makes multiple physical appearences in [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004]], where he appears remarkably depressed.
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]] in the [[kitchen]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church Visit|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee (written in 1945).
File:Bob1946WW2DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png|Bob's 1946 Draft card on a physical detail (written in 1945).
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
File:RobertChandler1960s.png|Bob in the late 1960s/early 1970s
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
File:0012-BobbyReading.jpg
File:0033-MommasBirthday.jpg
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
File:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg
File:0090-Christmas95-5.jpg
File:0091-Christmas95-6.jpg
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
File:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg
File:0473-CWC18th4.jpg
File:0114-MomsBirthday97-2.jpg
File:0115-MomsBirthday97-3.jpg
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob&BarbMay2000.png|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
File:0472-CWC18th3.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg
File:2002 BrickFest7.jpg|Bob with Chris at [[BrickFest]] [[2001]].
File:2002 BrickFest10.jpg
File:0612-DaddyIs75.jpg|75th birthday.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==References==
{{Fan Art|chris=Bob Chandler}}
<references />

==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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Bob Chandler

2026-02-20T17:03:51Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Barbara */

{{Incomplete|[[ThePCAssassins]]}}
{{Needs Updating|[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]}}
{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref>}}

{{quote|All around the world, everyone prays to their own God, but they are all praying to the same God.|Bob's alleged last words.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#Chris is the Avatar, Bob's last words]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, insulting Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
|imagesize = 250
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[Cole Smithey#Relationship with Barbara and Bob|Republican cur]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
|label3 = Date of Birth
|day = 4
|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
|deathmonth = 9
|deathyear = 2011
|gender = {{gender|gender=male}}
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|label8 = Height
|ft = 5
|in = 7.5
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980, divorce) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011, his death)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Hollomon (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
|saga = {{saga|childhood|cn}}, {{saga|greene|cn}}, {{saga|bearstein|cn}}, {{saga|julie|cn}}, {{saga|emily|cn}}, {{saga|ivy|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
}}

'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack," came from this incident, wherein he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for alleged abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that both he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child despite the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard, hoping they'd create things there (though sadly, nothing of note was ever created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from his concern for Chris's foolish behavior and from his occasional attempts to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's life, noting that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb, he at least made the effort, even if his attempts were futile or harmful at worst. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed, much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks. Whether in person or over the phone, Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone. According to Chris, he was also a strong negotiator.<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who then had to become the man of the house. Chris occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later, in 2021, Chris would disgrace Bob's memory by repeatedly having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized before eventually returning to the residence, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned for good.

==Biography==
Bob was born on 4:15 PM at a medical arts building in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}},<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Date with Emily#Bob's work history (0:07:18–0:16:58)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Hollomon (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

[[File:Robert Sr 1942.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|Bob in army uniform, 1946]]

[[File:Bob_Chandler_1945.png|thumb|right|200px|Bob Chandler (left) as a Boy Scout in 1945.]]

Bob has said that he was, "...interested in the world," around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]; his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School in {{w|Fort Monmouth}}, New Jersey, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Bob recounted a reckless decision he made during his time in the Army after returning from Korea for the Christmas holiday in 1947. He hitchhiked to New York City, where he stayed for two weeks before running out of money, and then had to figure out how to get back to Fort Monmouth.. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref>

Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and played French horn for the band and orchestra there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref name = "Meet">[[Date with Emily#Meet the Parent (0:05:20–0:07:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, was a member of {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

A 1946 military record included Bob's occupation while he was a student as "tinsmith, coppersmith, and sheet metal worker".

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for four years, where he designed a variety of electrical subsystems, including relays, telephones and valve systems. Initially, he was working with the radar systems in test-planning automatic test equipment. With Western Electric, Bob and his co-worker filed a patent for electrical terminal block in 1955, which was published in 1959.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US2884613A/en</ref> During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings lived for the rest of their lives.

He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an email to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "...might not have arrived so soon,"<ref name="Barbara" /> despite the international field of electronics having so many contributors that Bob likely had zero significant influence.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#A Word from Snorlax]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60 after 31 years of service for General Electric.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his, "...natural inclination for logic," although he was, "...inundated," by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> but he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky. He apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of {{w|Moldova}}, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref name = "Retired Life">[[Date with Emily#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 29 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1961) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1964).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Because of this, Chris did not know he had a niece via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]], until she was 8 years old,<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref> and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more distant. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and the last they had heard was that she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]].]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claimed that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway," though Barb has disputed this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This version of events may be why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them, "...acting out as a couple of drunken losers."<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she ultimately married Bob because, "...he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barb and Bob did not have sex for at least two decades before Bob's passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref> Chris also recalled Bob and Barb would routinely argue with each other, in which he felt the need to play "peacemaker" and the constant shouting matches caused him [[Stress|stress]] which he struggled to [[Chris and coping|cope with]].<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness ruined the relationship between himself and his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "...when that fuck Bob finally drops,"<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. At the least, Bob certainly knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name = "Meet" />

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

Bob's relationship with Chris was rather complex. While Bob was considered to be a better parent than his wife [[Barb]], he was by no means the good ol' pop-pop Chandler many thought he was. While Bob at least tried to help Chris, his attempts at doing so were either futile, misguided or even harmful to Chris in the long term.

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio." Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris were more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography, such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but figured (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and can only associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob had difficulties understanding Chris's [[Autism]] and vehemently refused to get Chris the help he needed, likely out of fear-driven inertia that is typical for people of his age and generation. In fact, he fought tooth and nail for years to keep Chris from getting the special education he needed to cope with the real world. It was the very reason why Bob rented a second home in Chesterfield County, so Chris couldn't attend special classes that Greene County recommended. Bob was most likely under the impression that Chris would be thrown into a lunatic asylum, lobotomized and that Chris needs to be sheltered all his life because of it, never mind his autistic [[Savannah|granddaughter]], who lives a relatively normal life.

When Chris entered [[Manchester High]], Bob arranged for [[Gal pal|a bunch of girls]] to be friends with Chris. He gave Chris money to hand it to at least one gal pal, claiming it was for her Friendship and Attention.

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections to others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. Bob's pieces were decently priced, generally for $5 per set, though he tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked by barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements [sic], annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy.' Bob also engaged in friendly and interesting conversation with [[ThePCAssassins]] many times through [[2010]] and [[2011]], further disproving Chris's belief. The antagonism to which Chris refers was likely Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason as to why he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love," "support," "gratitude," and "willingness to help." Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional [[Mumble 1|frustration]] over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appeared that Bob was the source of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank calls#Snake Productions Calls Bob Chandler]]</ref>

After Chris got his [[CADD]] degree, instead of telling Chris to get to work as any other parent would, he encouraged Chris to stay home just so he could continue to get his taxpayer-funded [[tugboat]].

He never seemed to get past the notion that Chris could and had already achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's emails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a "fag", even though he indirectly contributed to it through his unbalanced approach of socializing Chris.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since his passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on in his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often sees Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris later expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

In the [[Incest Call]], Chris claimed he was better at [[Affair with Mother|pleasuring]] [[Barb]] than his own father. One can only imagine Bob's reaction to this news if he were still alive to bear witness to what his son has become.

Despite his best efforts to the contrary, Chris, his second chance at being a father, was Bob's greatest failure as a parent, even when factoring in his strained relationship with his other children.

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>[[Date with Emily#Eating spaghetti and conversing (0:36:49–0:44:46)]]</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia,<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref> and Czechoslovakian friends in late 1970s, who were illegal immigrants escaping Czechoslovakia. Chris said Bob and Barb enjoyed conversing and drinking {{w|Slivovitz}} with them and that Bob would drive to Maryland to buy Slivovitz.<ref>[[Regina_e-mails#Random-access_humor_demonstration]]</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had, "...a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]],"<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
{{See also|Death of Bob Chandler}}
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on Social Security as well as his General Electric pension.<ref name = "Retired Life" /> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to 'swing with the music' on his swing there.<ref name="Retired Life" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Date with Emily#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob, "...has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [sic] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and [[White-Knighting|white knights]] alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

In [[Sonichu 9#Episode 19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's [[Oedipus complex]], Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later, "...told me he accepts and love ''[sic]'' me for who I am," shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guy]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer [[Ted Bundy]].

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
*[[Christmas|25 December]] [[2004]]: Bob makes multiple physical appearences in [[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004]], where he appears remarkably depressed.
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]] in the [[kitchen]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church Visit|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee (written in 1945).
File:Bob1946WW2DraftCardPhysicalDetail.png|Bob's 1946 Draft card on a physical detail (written in 1945).
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
File:RobertChandler1960s.png|Bob in the late 1960s/early 1970s
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
File:0012-BobbyReading.jpg
File:0033-MommasBirthday.jpg
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
File:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg
File:0090-Christmas95-5.jpg
File:0091-Christmas95-6.jpg
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
File:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg
File:0473-CWC18th4.jpg
File:0114-MomsBirthday97-2.jpg
File:0115-MomsBirthday97-3.jpg
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob&BarbMay2000.png|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
File:0472-CWC18th3.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg
File:2002 BrickFest7.jpg|Bob with Chris at [[BrickFest]] [[2001]].
File:2002 BrickFest10.jpg
File:0612-DaddyIs75.jpg|75th birthday.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==References==
{{Fan Art|chris=Bob Chandler}}
<references />

==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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Megan Schroeder

2026-02-20T17:00:05Z

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{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroeder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = {{•}} Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. {{•}} Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested {{•}} Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. {{•}} Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|arbitarch|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris and socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life. Megan was one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[Fiona|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage| fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2005]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|300px|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]
[[File:Cchanmegan.jpg|thumb|...and again]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris and sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and asking Chris to purchase things from [[eBay]] for her.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both adults who passed their time playing [[card games]] mostly marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Megan wants a Tintin tape|Megan emails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan emails, 2005-2006#Chris wants to date Megan at McDonald's|Megan emails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and began his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

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==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie e-mails Part 2#Chris lies about The Game Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

In a call between Bob and [[ThePCAssassins]] Bob tells the caller that Megan is a [[Bob Call 6|"little low life in the gutter bitch."]]

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==CPU Red Heart==
{{Quote|But anyway, Megan, your counterpart in C197, ever since her pow- er, sailor senshi powers, Sailor Megtune, have been stripped after the unfortunate break-up events of 06 or 07, or it may have been 08, that actually happened between you and I, not going to go into further detail.}}

In the video [[Dimensional Merge Announcements]], where Chris announces the Dimensional Merge, Chris mentions that Megan herself has become a CPU Goddess in the form of Sailor Megtune, aka '''CPU Red Heart'''. Chris also mentions how his prior grudge towards her has also dissipated, and encourages fans to not harass her.

Chris then told [[The Captain]] to text Megan, and then the following post on Kiwi Farms. According to him, Megan was genuinely touched by Chris declaring her as a CPU Goddess, and feels sorry for him, but also decided not to meet with him under any circumstances.

{{quoteboxkiwi|This video legitimately makes me sad.

He's very muted here.. totally not like him at all.

He did text me asking me to send it to Megan so I did.. I'm waiting for her response.

Edit: She's genuinely touched and really liked whoever is posting as Donald Trump. She feels bad for Chris but will not be meeting up with him under any circumstances.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Captain texts Megan]]</ref>}}

==Other Mentions==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 [[January 2016]], in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claimed that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Complimenting Megan Schroeder]]</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]] (during the timeframe when [[2018 Twitter account compromise|Chris's Twitter account was being compromised]]) Chris's Twitter account declared that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, the Twitter account backtracked on the claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref> Due to the account compromise, it is unclear whether the messages had been sent by Chris.

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] Discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], described having viewed the ''Chris Chan Vs. The Internet'' trailer and then had an emotional breakdown over his perceived issues with Megan.<ref>[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]</ref>
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further described his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claimed that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.

On 5 [[November 2020]], in another chat in The Place, Chris described the coverage of Megan in the Chris Chan Youtube series ''[[Beneath the Bridge]]'' as a "real mixed bag", admitting that he had been cringing and crying throughout most of it.<ref>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>
{{quotebox|The multi-part vids about Megan were a real mixed bag; more than half of the time, it hit the nerves in the core of this body, some cringe, a bunch of crying, and so on.}}

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

On 25 [[March 2021]], in a yet another chat in The Place, Chris, while role-playing as a psychic detective of a future murder, brought up Megan. Having narrowed down the supposed victims to one of two, Chris claimed that Megan will need extra defense. [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] quickly discouraged Chris from considering this further, reminding him that Megan has a gun and knows how to defend herself.<ref>[[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]]</ref>
{{quotebox|I’m not finalized which of the two, but the victim is either in California or Virginia.
And, Megan Schroeder, in Virginia, here, is one who will (also) need some extra defense on her part during this present time as well.}}

In the 17 [[October 2023]] video [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], Chris singled out Megan during a segment in which he complained about people blocking him, saying that she and others had their chance to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|actually be kind and compassionate towards him]].

In the 19 [[May 2025]] video [[Grounded Deep Response]], while attempting to do an [[introspection]] on his public image, Chris brought up Megan while describing the effects of toxic people and trolls in his life. In a slip of the tongue, he started to describe his association with her as a "relationship", before adjusting himself to "friendship."

On 19 [[February 2026]], in his social media post about admitting to various wrongdoings, he gives Megan Schroeder a passing mention in reference to "bodily impulse and typical sex wants" during his [[Love Quest]], also describing his infamous nonconsensual cartoon smut drawing as having "sinned hard".<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be affecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
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Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
Image:0942-DogFromMegan.JPG
</gallery></center>

==References==
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Chris and race

2026-02-20T01:30:45Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Honest}}

{{quote|I never really had anything against, uh, race or people, I never really did... I have nothing against black people or anyone else of other countries.|[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] while talking to [[BraveryJerk Interviews|BraveryJerk]] in [[2016]], in spite of previous questionable depictions of race in his comics and videos.}}

[[Image: Niggocwc.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris in [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV]], [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] into putting on blackface.]]

The '''race''' of people is often considered a sensitive topic, a poor match for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], with his [[Autism|lack of social tact and tendency to take pop culture stereotypes literally]]. While Chris doesn't seem to hold deeply bigoted views or have irrational hatred toward people that aren't white (or at least not on the same level as his views on [[homos|homosexuals]], [[Asperger syndrome|people with Asperger's Syndrome]], and [[MALE|MALES]]) he has been remarkably tone-deaf when talking about, or portraying, minorities in his comics and videos. The [[Miscreants]] group of trolls used race as ammo to mock and [[Chris and manipulation|manipulate]] Chris.

==Chris and stereotypes==
Chris's views of other cultures can also be traced to the television he watches, such as the typical [[Adult Swim]] cartoon which includes gratuitous use of stereotype-based humor.

===Black people===
[[File:Nodarkies.JPG|thumb|Chris approved of this pic, and said he liked it.<ref>[[:File:Chrisreply1evan.png]]</ref>]]

Chris has been widely considered to be racist against black people since it was learned that his highly specific criteria for a [[sweetheart]] include whiteness and specifically excludes blackness.<ref>[[Attraction Sign]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009|"Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009"]]</ref><ref>In [[IRC (17 December 2008)]], he was asked to describe all the races he would date and he answered, "all but black."</ref> Chris tells this not only to trolls, but to black [[boyfriend-free girls]] in real life, that they do not "meet his standard criteria for a female companion" to their faces.<ref>[[Autism papers|Chris's Psychiatric Examination]]</ref>

His stated reason for not being interested in black women is that his dream-prophecy of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] shows her to be white, which means her mother must be white as well.

Trolls quickly coined the phrase "No darkies" as a quick summary of Chris's criteria for a Boyfriend free girl, much to his chagrin<ref>[[Sonichu Fan Promo]]</ref> – even though he previously approved of a notable piece of fan art with the phrase included prominently. This is essentially accurate; for example, on Chris's profile at [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]] he says that "[[Tobacky|smokers]], [[obesity|overweights]], blacks, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|liars]] need not apply."

On the less-discriminatory side, Chris also has stated that he doesn't hate men who have black girlfriends, and doesn't consider them [[JERKS]], so Chris may think it'll increase his chances of finding a white boyfriend-free girl.

Some teenaged black kids frequented [[The GAMe PLACe]]. Chris picked on them and acted like they wanted to steal from him, hiding his stuff when they were nearby.<ref name="Mimms">[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> The official reason Chris got banned permanently from The GAMe PLACe was getting into a shouting match with one of these children.

Chris also once argued with a huge black guy named TJ while playing [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|Yu-Gi-Oh]]. When they started talking about how Chris would [[Virgin with Rage|never get laid]], Chris yelled, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" As TJ stood up like he was going to [[Kick the Autistic|beat Chris's ass]], Chris shrunk and whimpered "I mean your face down monster...."<ref name="Mimms"/>

He does an impression of the stereotypical black accent, which he apparently confuses with the Jamaican accent, in [[Mumble 4]].

When Chris talked on the phone to [[Jackie]]'s boyfriend [[Lars]], he tried to bridge the gap between their different races by speaking in Ebonics, including referring to himself as a "nigga" and making statements like, "I enjoy the TV shows I get from the, from the black man, including [[Wikipedia:The Jeffersons|''The Jeffersons'']], and [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], and [[Wikipedia:Sanford and Son|''Sanford and Son'']], all a' them."<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref>

On 27 [[June 2012]], Chris posted in [[Facebook]] a photo of a black woman at [[McDonald's]] who he said discriminated against him, and demanded people not go there, and if they do to "throw newspaper in the damn old bitchy, black woman's face!!!"<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>

In 2014, when Chris was infatuated with [[Catherine]], he had a romantic rival by the name of [[Colin]]; he sent a message describing the light shining off of Colin's head in a photo as "poo light."<ref>[[Colin Chat 1]]</ref>

In 2016, Chris was asked by [[BraveryJerk]] what his opinion on the Black Lives Matter movement was. Chris seemingly had never heard of the movement, saying "Uhhh, Black Li – I have not heard of that. Well…Black Lives Matter. It sounds like it’s…uh…maybe people, black people are, sounds like they’re having trouble? But I feel…that, you know, to help any person in general, regardless of race or whatever. I mean, I’m for…the,uh…Black Lives forever."<ref>https://youtu.be/LTtBLPH350w?t=547</ref>

===Asians===
{{see also|Japanophilia}}

In the [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], Chris portrays [[Punchy Sonichu]] as a [[CWC Fighter|kung fu]] master with [[Wikipedia:Epicanthic fold|slanty eyes]], raised in a dojo. When a fan criticized this stereotyping, Chris claimed that Punchy was "NOT of Asian origin".<ref>[[Mailbag 6]]</ref> Outside of the comic, Chris also misattributes the origin of kung fu to Japan, when in actuality it comes from [[China]]. He does a racist impression of a Chinese person, and claims Japanese and Chinese people sound the same.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> In a [[Katie Bay E-mails|leaked series of e-mails]], it is shown that Chris simply does not seem to know that China and Japan are not the same, as he calls the Japanese account Chinese, failing to realize that they are separate countries with different governments, languages, writing systems and currencies.

In [[Chris Calls Clyde Out]], Chris pretends to be [[Clyde Cash]] while doing an imitation of an Asian accent. This is presumably a reference to Clyde's Asian ancestry.<ref>[[Mumble 2]]</ref>

In his real-life dealings, Chris seems to have a positive or at least a neutral view toward Asians. He has stated that he would not exclude Asian women from his [[Love Quest]], and at one point [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Eating Spaghetti (36:49 - 38:54)|believed Emily to be part-Asian]].

Chris appears to believe that "Ching Chong" is an actual Asian name, rather than a racially insensitive mockery of the Chinese language.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009#Additional material|Ivy is Real]]</ref>

===Native Americans===
{{main|Cherokian Clan}}
[[Image:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|thumb|left| This has something to do with Native Americans. No, really. (Note [[Semen|the typo]].)]]

As stated in the main article, despite claiming to have at least one [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|Cherokee ancestor]], Chris is completely ignorant of Native American culture. However, unlike other minorities, Chris's opinions and representation of Native Americans are a misguided expression of "pride" for his "heritage".

In [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]: [[Sonichu 2#Episode 7: Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"|Episode 7]], Chris tries to tie in his "[[Cherokian]]" heritage with ''Sonichu'' lore. He depicts [[Wikipedia:Cherokee|Cherokee]] characters in his work as white-skinned and blue-eyed, and wearing Ancient Roman-style armor ([[Wikipedia:Joseph Smith|Joseph Smith]] would be proud). The [[Wasabi Clan]] unsurprisingly also bear no resemblance to Native Americans. The Wasabi rival is (once again) very Caucasian-looking, and he wears an orange robe and a brightly-colored hat vaguely resembling a {{w|mitre}}; this has led multiple commentators to say he looks more like the Pope than a Native American figure.

Chris has also embodied his ignorance of Native American culture in a physical form. For a brief time, Chris blurred his gender roles and began to collect and customize ''[[My Little Pony]]'' dolls. One of the dolls he crafted was the infamous "Cheroki-Chan", a Native American pony clearly based upon himself. While there is nothing overtly racist about this abomination, it is probably not how Native Americans want to be represented. In the end Cheroki-Chan is just another Mary Sue for Chris, and pales in comparison to Chris's most infamous portrayal of Native Americans.

Chris attempted to emulate what he perceives as "Native American culture" in a [[War Paint Video]]. In this video Chris wears water-washable paint (and a "[[muscle bra]]") and wields a plastic gun in an attempt to frighten trolls into submission. True Cherokee historically wore breechcloths and leggings most of the time prior to adopting modern styles, and there is little evidence to suggest they owned muscle bras. They also notably did not go to war with toy guns, but famously with bows and arrows, and later captured firearms - all of which Chris [[I AM STRONG|lacks the strength]] to use.

===Jews===
{{see also|Michael Snyder}}
{{quote|I hope that God will forgive you for being so heartless and cruel Michael Snyder!... JEW!|Chris, [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|demonstrating his boundless empathy for religious minorities]]}}

Near the beginning of Chris's [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|unsuccessful attempt]] in April 2010 to be unbanned from the [[The GAMe PLACe]], he felt the need to point out the possibility that Michael Snyder was Jewish, using his last name as a point of reference ("Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the surname "Schneider", which sometimes belongs to Jews). After failing to convince Snyder to lift the ban, Chris angrily called him a Jew and bolted out of the store, seemingly belying his claim to have no ill will towards the Jewish people. In a later video ([[Greene County Conspiracy|100 2178]]), Chris appears to restrain himself from calling Snyder a "greedy Jew". In an email to Katie Bay, he refers to Snyder as a "son of a bitch Jew" and a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> This probably is moreso a misguided attempt to mimic [[South Park#Chris fails to grasp South Park|Eric Cartman]] than the result of any deep-seated antisemitism.

It should be noted that Snyder once clarified in a YouTube comment that he is ''not'' Jewish (though whether this account actually belongs to him is probably not likely), and also that Chris took to using "Jew" like a curse word (because anything directed at blacks nearly got him [[Kick the Autistic|assaulted in retribution]] by patrons).<ref>Michael Snyder#Snyder's YouTube Comments</ref>

Chris finally apologized for insulting Michael on 31 [[March 2018]], after a [[CWC Ancestry|23andme test]] showed that he himself had 0.1% Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry. He characterized this as a "surprise."<ref>[https://archive.md/NR1Vv]</ref> As of 2020 his 23andme results no longer include Jewish ancestry.<ref>[[:File:DNA test.JPG]]</ref>

Funnily enough, according to Chris's [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|list of Adam & Eve purchases]], he had purchased "Nina Hartley's guide to sex toys", a pornographic video starring the titular porn star, who just so happened to be a Jewish Atheist. Whether Chris knew or cared about the fact he was [[mass debating]] to a woman whose race/ beliefs he showed such a prejudice to remains unknown.

Also, Chris has used the Yiddish phrase "oy vey" on occasion (most notably during the [[Jack Thaddeus#The Calls|Jack Thaddeus phone calls]]), though it's not uncommon for that phrase to be used outside of Jewish circles. Chris probably picked it up either from his parents, or from shows like ''Rugrats'' and ''The Simpsons''.

===Hispanics===
{{main|Chris and Spanish}}
[[File:455-EspanolicAndVegaton.JPG|thumb|left|Espanolic and Vegaton, the only [[Pokémon]] lazier than [[Snorlax]].]]

Aside from his rather tenuous grasp on the [[Spanish]] language, Chris has created a somewhat racist caricature in the form of [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|Espanolic]]. It's a Grass-type [[Pokémon]] that resembles an anthropomorphized [[Wikipedia:Sombrero|sombrero]] in front of what appears to be the flag of [[Wikipedia:Flag of Bolivia|Bolivia]] or [[Wikipedia:Flag of Ghana|Ghana]], and its main attack is confusing its enemies with its "strange language". Its evolved form, Vegaton, has an attack called "[[Wikipedia:Spanish fly|Spanish Fly]]", that puts its enemies to sleep.

Hilariously enough, [[Nintendo]] would later create similar Pokémon named Lombre and Ludicolo, which, despite being obvious stereotypes, were handled far more tactfully than Chris could hope to do.

So far, the only Hispanic character in the comics is [[Heather Iglesias]], the [[Homos|lesbian]] nanny of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children]], and then Chris's <s>self-cest</s> children. Chris is probably trying to be inclusive here, but he isn't creative or intelligent enough to think of anything besides a stereotypical occupation for Hispanic women. It also does not help her sentences are random mixes of Spanish and English – and no, not by throwing in a random word or two of Spanish into her sentences, but switching from English phrases to Spanish midway in her sentences (which appear to be Google-Translated).

It is worth noting that Chris sometimes refers to people of Latin American descent as "Spanish". This is not unheard of, especially among [[Borb|older generations]], but it is much less common than the terms "Hispanic" or "Latino".

Chris has shown in the past a willingness to [[Joshua Martinez|befriend]] and [[Lori Lopez|date]] Hispanics.

===Indians===

When TheGamerFromMars took Chris out to eat at an Indian restaurant during the filming of [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy]], Chris [[Random Access Humor|blurted out one-liners]] from ''[[The Simpsons]]'' character Apu (''complete with the stereotypical Indian accent''), much to the embarrassment and disapproval of his hosts. Despite that, Chris insisted on belting out another "Welcome to Kwik-E-Mart!" line before they sat down to eat, [[Autism|oblivious to the fact that he could have offended somebody.]]

[[Manajerks|"Turdijerk"]] from "Off-Target" has a vaguely South Asian appearance and the name may also be based on a stereotype of an Indian accent.

===Other white ethnicities/cultures===
Chris has not shown outright malevolence towards other white cultures, but is often ignorant of their customs and nations. In [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!]], for example, Chris plays an Irish song while wearing a kilt and pretending to be Scottish, then mentions a [[Wikipedia:Shillelagh_(club)|shillelagh]].

Chris has an extremely basic idea on eastern Europe and Russia; [[Sylvana]] was given a supposedly Russian accent midway through the comic for no discernable reason (although the way it was written made it look like a German accent instead).

==Troll manipulation==
{{quote|[giggling] No, say "niggers", you stupid twat.|[[BlueSpike]] to Chris.<ref>[[Julie Reveals Herself]]</ref>}}

In the [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call, [[BlueSpike]] coerced Chris into saying "niggers"; Chris attempted to substitute [[niggos]] instead, but BlueSpike insisted and Chris gave in. The term niggos became an infamous [[CWC-ism]].

In a [[June 2009]] video, Chris uploaded for Julie called [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]] which was a cover the song "Don't Trust Them New Niggas Over There" from The Boondocks. While Chris attempted to make it [[Homos|homophobic]], he still kept many of the racist lyrics from the original song and even repeated the word "nigga" on 3 different occasions in the song.

Chris called [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] a nigger on video<ref>[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]]</ref> and in email.<ref>[[Surfshack Tito E-mails]]</ref> Notably, he never used the term in this context either before or after his interaction with Tito, who is not even depicted as being a black person, suggesting Chris was [[manipulated]] by trolls behind the scenes into using the word.

In [[Jackie E-mails 14]], sweetheart [[Jackie]] asked Chris [[Song for Jackie.MOV|to dress up as Mr. Popo]] on video - a character from [[Dragon Ball]] with black skin, red lips and a turban - while singing "You ain't seen no Saiyans on the fiddle, / No Saiyans on the fiddle like this." Chris complied, though he was aware the costume would appear like blackface and placed a disclaimer stating that "this video presentation is NOT meant to make fun of the Blacks or the Hindus."

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga Chris was manipulated into [[Chris and fashion| dressing up as a gopnik]] (bottle of vodka included) while spouting the phrase "A nu cheeki breeki" and "Davai" over and over again (in reference to the stalker games which Joshua was obsessed with), although like many things during that saga the whole meme probably flew completely over Chris's head and actually was led to believe that the chant was Cherokean instead.

==Not a racist?==
[[Image:ECP 00024.jpg|thumb|left|Chris being a [[niggo|wiggo]].]]
{{quote|And I am NOT racist, and I like Jews.|Chris, in response to a [[Mailbag_6#Rejected_Mailbag|rejected mailbag]] email}}

{{quote|Blacks [...] are good people too.|Chris, in the [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV|disclaimer for his Mr. Popo video]]}}

Chris does not want to be considered a racist. He claims to respect blacks as equals, saying that in CWCville "they can even vote". Or if they can [[Reggie Fils-Aimé|help him get his inane and idiotic video game made]]. He also genuinely likes two black actors: [[My big 18th party (story)|Kenan & Kel]].

He did mention more than once that the reason he doesn't want black girls (but any other race is okay) is because he thinks God told him that his future daughter Crystal must be white, too. In an [[IRC (17 December 2008)|IRC]], Chris said he has no problem with dating an Asian. Later, in [[Mailbag 35]], he wrote he would date "Asian, Native or Hispanic women, as well as women of all other countries" (except the ones being black).

In [[February 2026]], during a series of admissions to previous misdeeds (in order to fuel his self-proclaimed [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]], Chris admitted to having been racist (citing [[Bob Chandler|his dad]] was bigoted) and claimed he felt "distraught" upon realizing his home environment's negative influence.<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Chris's ethnic background==
{{Wise|he is part black and part Jewish.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref>}}

[[File:2023ChrisDNATest.png|thumb|200px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of January 13, 2023, showing that according to his genetics, he is predominantly of [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|British]] ancestry, with additional contributions from Northwestern and Southern European nations.]]
[[File:DNA test.JPG|thumb|500px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of 11 October 2020.]]
[[File:Ancestry composition1.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's original results which convinced him he was Jewish.]]

Influenced by his parents' claims, Chris has long asserted that he is of primarily [[Daniel Weston|English]] descent, with some [[Cherokian Clan|Cherokee]] heritage on Bob's side and some French heritage on Barb's. However, in March 2018, the [[Idea Guys]] had Chris apply for a DNA test from 23andMe to determine his ancestry,<ref>[[March 2018 social media posts#Apology to jewish people]]</ref> which showed that he was of 100% European genetic background, with slightly over half of this being British and most of the rest from across Northwestern Europe. The test also indicated that Chris had a trace amount (less than 0.1%) of Ashkenazi ("ash-KEN-azi") Jewish ancestry. Chris was also led to believe that he had black ancestry because his paternal haplogroup lineage, like all human lineages, began in Africa (as a matter of fact both his paternal and maternal haplogroups point to European origin). As a result, Chris declared that he was "Fully Observant of [his] Jewish ancestry" and that he was "black too." He apologized for his past offensiveness regarding Jews and black people.

Sometime between 2018 and 2020 Chris's 23andMe results were updated. They now show no Jewish ancestry whatsoever, showing a somewhat larger component of [[Mario|Italian]] ancestry instead. They also show that he is of 0.1% [[Cherokean Chant|Siberian]] ancestry, possibly the sign of a distant Native American ancestor as North Asian and Native American populations are closely related.<ref>[https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202906870-Can-23andMe-identify-Native-American-ancestry-]</ref> Chris has yet to comment on these new results.

In January 2023, Chris's 23andMe results were updated again. They showed a larger component of [[PewDiePie|Scandanavian]] and broadly Northwestern European ancestry, increased 0.1% of Italian and the rest of Northwestern European were decreased by a less 2%, and Siberian ancestry increased by 0.1%. It was also added that Chris had 0.1% of "unassigned" ancestry.

==Minority characters in ''Sonichu''==

Chris attempts to add in characters of various races and religions with decidedly mixed results. Many of his non-white characters are one-dimensional or barely relevant but then again so is every white one who isn't Chris in his world full of rainbow hedgehogs. Virtually all black characters are depicted as criminals, villains, or undesirables. The ones that aren't so lucky are treated like crap by the other characters or used in race-related jokes.

In the [[Mailbag]], when Chris is confronted about the lack of minorities in his comic he claims that all of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are considered "minorities" in CWCville, implying that he completely missed the point of the question. Despite being minorities, the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon group never experiences discrimination nor prejudices in the comic; [[homos|that's saved for another minority in CWCville]]. Chris tolerated a black [[Bubbles]] and Indian [[Magi-chan]] renditions in [[July 2020]].

*[[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]] (Jewish, good but immature)
*[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]] (<s>Paleface</s> Native American, lawful good)
*[[Wes Iseli#Wasabi Rival|Wasabi Rival]] (<s>Caucasian</s> Native American, evil)
*[[Sarah Nicole Hammer#Queen of the Cherokian Clan|Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] - (<s>white-washed</s> Native American, good, probably the whitest of all Native American characters in the comics as she's not only blue-eyed but also blonde)
*[[Manajerks#B-Manajerk|B-Manajerk]] (black, evil). A '''villain''' based off a real-life encounter. The B most likely stands for Black; the name was coined so that Chris could distinguish him from other [[Manajerks]]. This is quite similar to the way American black superheroes were named in the 1950-60s.
*[[Barack Obama]] (half-black, half-Arab). A cameo for the sake of a race-related joke. [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] told Chris a racist joke about then-senator Obama, which Chris illustrated within the pages of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]. Chris removed the joke after Obama won the election, but he probably only did that because he respects Obama now.
* [[Blake]] (black, evil turned good). A '''villain''' turned positive-aligned "bad boy". Black Sonichu/Blachu (whose name was later [[retconned|changed]] to Blake) was originally a villain, but switched sides because he's a recolor of [[Shadow the Hedgehog]]. In [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] which were uploaded in 2015 Blake is mistaken as black, being wished a "happy Kwanza, brother" from an African American, and goes on an angry rant about how his skin in not "sunburn color", he is black because of a mutation.
*[[CADD Chef]] (black, evil)
*[[Florance Fisher]] (black, good). A girl whose sole purpose in the comic is to be rejected by Reginald.
*[[Jerkhief]] (black, lawful evil). The Big Cheese of the Jerkops.
** Occasionally other [[Jerkop]]s are shown to be black as well. No other minorities are apparent aside from possibly Turdijerk (see below).
*[[Punchy]] (East Asian, good)
*[[Silvana]] (black, evil [said to turn good])
*[[Manajerks#Turdijerk and Trebor Capman (Accomplice)|Turdijerk]] (drawn with brownish skin and brown hair, possibly Indian(?), evil)
*[[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Constable Louis Perez]] (black police officer who talks entirely in stereotypical black slang)
*[[Inos]] (black, [[tobacky]] smoker). A homeless, intoxicated, diseased, drug-pushing, expectorating Jamaican with filthy dreadlocks.
*[[Heather Iglesias]] (Hispanic, lesbian, good, <s>never seen</s> debuts in ''Sonichu'' #12)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Dr. Bill Schwartz (Bill the Scientist)|Bill Schwartz]] (possibly Jewish, worked for [[Giovanni]] but later on changed sides)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Ching Chong|Ching Chong]] (Asian, appeared in the [[Wedding Comic]] as a flower girl)
*PHI Spring Break reporter (black, appears in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]) - despite the woman only appearing in one panel, Chris manages to make her into a stereotype, addressing the audience as "sistas and brothas".

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Chris and race

2026-02-20T01:30:21Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Not a racist? */

{{Needs Updating|[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]}}
{{Honest}}

{{quote|I never really had anything against, uh, race or people, I never really did... I have nothing against black people or anyone else of other countries.|[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] while talking to [[BraveryJerk Interviews|BraveryJerk]] in [[2016]], in spite of previous questionable depictions of race in his comics and videos.}}

[[Image: Niggocwc.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris in [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV]], [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] into putting on blackface.]]

The '''race''' of people is often considered a sensitive topic, a poor match for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], with his [[Autism|lack of social tact and tendency to take pop culture stereotypes literally]]. While Chris doesn't seem to hold deeply bigoted views or have irrational hatred toward people that aren't white (or at least not on the same level as his views on [[homos|homosexuals]], [[Asperger syndrome|people with Asperger's Syndrome]], and [[MALE|MALES]]) he has been remarkably tone-deaf when talking about, or portraying, minorities in his comics and videos. The [[Miscreants]] group of trolls used race as ammo to mock and [[Chris and manipulation|manipulate]] Chris.

==Chris and stereotypes==
Chris's views of other cultures can also be traced to the television he watches, such as the typical [[Adult Swim]] cartoon which includes gratuitous use of stereotype-based humor.

===Black people===
[[File:Nodarkies.JPG|thumb|Chris approved of this pic, and said he liked it.<ref>[[:File:Chrisreply1evan.png]]</ref>]]

Chris has been widely considered to be racist against black people since it was learned that his highly specific criteria for a [[sweetheart]] include whiteness and specifically excludes blackness.<ref>[[Attraction Sign]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009|"Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009"]]</ref><ref>In [[IRC (17 December 2008)]], he was asked to describe all the races he would date and he answered, "all but black."</ref> Chris tells this not only to trolls, but to black [[boyfriend-free girls]] in real life, that they do not "meet his standard criteria for a female companion" to their faces.<ref>[[Autism papers|Chris's Psychiatric Examination]]</ref>

His stated reason for not being interested in black women is that his dream-prophecy of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] shows her to be white, which means her mother must be white as well.

Trolls quickly coined the phrase "No darkies" as a quick summary of Chris's criteria for a Boyfriend free girl, much to his chagrin<ref>[[Sonichu Fan Promo]]</ref> – even though he previously approved of a notable piece of fan art with the phrase included prominently. This is essentially accurate; for example, on Chris's profile at [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]] he says that "[[Tobacky|smokers]], [[obesity|overweights]], blacks, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|liars]] need not apply."

On the less-discriminatory side, Chris also has stated that he doesn't hate men who have black girlfriends, and doesn't consider them [[JERKS]], so Chris may think it'll increase his chances of finding a white boyfriend-free girl.

Some teenaged black kids frequented [[The GAMe PLACe]]. Chris picked on them and acted like they wanted to steal from him, hiding his stuff when they were nearby.<ref name="Mimms">[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> The official reason Chris got banned permanently from The GAMe PLACe was getting into a shouting match with one of these children.

Chris also once argued with a huge black guy named TJ while playing [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|Yu-Gi-Oh]]. When they started talking about how Chris would [[Virgin with Rage|never get laid]], Chris yelled, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" As TJ stood up like he was going to [[Kick the Autistic|beat Chris's ass]], Chris shrunk and whimpered "I mean your face down monster...."<ref name="Mimms"/>

He does an impression of the stereotypical black accent, which he apparently confuses with the Jamaican accent, in [[Mumble 4]].

When Chris talked on the phone to [[Jackie]]'s boyfriend [[Lars]], he tried to bridge the gap between their different races by speaking in Ebonics, including referring to himself as a "nigga" and making statements like, "I enjoy the TV shows I get from the, from the black man, including [[Wikipedia:The Jeffersons|''The Jeffersons'']], and [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], and [[Wikipedia:Sanford and Son|''Sanford and Son'']], all a' them."<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref>

On 27 [[June 2012]], Chris posted in [[Facebook]] a photo of a black woman at [[McDonald's]] who he said discriminated against him, and demanded people not go there, and if they do to "throw newspaper in the damn old bitchy, black woman's face!!!"<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>

In 2014, when Chris was infatuated with [[Catherine]], he had a romantic rival by the name of [[Colin]]; he sent a message describing the light shining off of Colin's head in a photo as "poo light."<ref>[[Colin Chat 1]]</ref>

In 2016, Chris was asked by [[BraveryJerk]] what his opinion on the Black Lives Matter movement was. Chris seemingly had never heard of the movement, saying "Uhhh, Black Li – I have not heard of that. Well…Black Lives Matter. It sounds like it’s…uh…maybe people, black people are, sounds like they’re having trouble? But I feel…that, you know, to help any person in general, regardless of race or whatever. I mean, I’m for…the,uh…Black Lives forever."<ref>https://youtu.be/LTtBLPH350w?t=547</ref>

===Asians===
{{see also|Japanophilia}}

In the [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], Chris portrays [[Punchy Sonichu]] as a [[CWC Fighter|kung fu]] master with [[Wikipedia:Epicanthic fold|slanty eyes]], raised in a dojo. When a fan criticized this stereotyping, Chris claimed that Punchy was "NOT of Asian origin".<ref>[[Mailbag 6]]</ref> Outside of the comic, Chris also misattributes the origin of kung fu to Japan, when in actuality it comes from [[China]]. He does a racist impression of a Chinese person, and claims Japanese and Chinese people sound the same.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> In a [[Katie Bay E-mails|leaked series of e-mails]], it is shown that Chris simply does not seem to know that China and Japan are not the same, as he calls the Japanese account Chinese, failing to realize that they are separate countries with different governments, languages, writing systems and currencies.

In [[Chris Calls Clyde Out]], Chris pretends to be [[Clyde Cash]] while doing an imitation of an Asian accent. This is presumably a reference to Clyde's Asian ancestry.<ref>[[Mumble 2]]</ref>

In his real-life dealings, Chris seems to have a positive or at least a neutral view toward Asians. He has stated that he would not exclude Asian women from his [[Love Quest]], and at one point [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Eating Spaghetti (36:49 - 38:54)|believed Emily to be part-Asian]].

Chris appears to believe that "Ching Chong" is an actual Asian name, rather than a racially insensitive mockery of the Chinese language.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009#Additional material|Ivy is Real]]</ref>

===Native Americans===
{{main|Cherokian Clan}}
[[Image:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|thumb|left| This has something to do with Native Americans. No, really. (Note [[Semen|the typo]].)]]

As stated in the main article, despite claiming to have at least one [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|Cherokee ancestor]], Chris is completely ignorant of Native American culture. However, unlike other minorities, Chris's opinions and representation of Native Americans are a misguided expression of "pride" for his "heritage".

In [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]: [[Sonichu 2#Episode 7: Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"|Episode 7]], Chris tries to tie in his "[[Cherokian]]" heritage with ''Sonichu'' lore. He depicts [[Wikipedia:Cherokee|Cherokee]] characters in his work as white-skinned and blue-eyed, and wearing Ancient Roman-style armor ([[Wikipedia:Joseph Smith|Joseph Smith]] would be proud). The [[Wasabi Clan]] unsurprisingly also bear no resemblance to Native Americans. The Wasabi rival is (once again) very Caucasian-looking, and he wears an orange robe and a brightly-colored hat vaguely resembling a {{w|mitre}}; this has led multiple commentators to say he looks more like the Pope than a Native American figure.

Chris has also embodied his ignorance of Native American culture in a physical form. For a brief time, Chris blurred his gender roles and began to collect and customize ''[[My Little Pony]]'' dolls. One of the dolls he crafted was the infamous "Cheroki-Chan", a Native American pony clearly based upon himself. While there is nothing overtly racist about this abomination, it is probably not how Native Americans want to be represented. In the end Cheroki-Chan is just another Mary Sue for Chris, and pales in comparison to Chris's most infamous portrayal of Native Americans.

Chris attempted to emulate what he perceives as "Native American culture" in a [[War Paint Video]]. In this video Chris wears water-washable paint (and a "[[muscle bra]]") and wields a plastic gun in an attempt to frighten trolls into submission. True Cherokee historically wore breechcloths and leggings most of the time prior to adopting modern styles, and there is little evidence to suggest they owned muscle bras. They also notably did not go to war with toy guns, but famously with bows and arrows, and later captured firearms - all of which Chris [[I AM STRONG|lacks the strength]] to use.

===Jews===
{{see also|Michael Snyder}}
{{quote|I hope that God will forgive you for being so heartless and cruel Michael Snyder!... JEW!|Chris, [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|demonstrating his boundless empathy for religious minorities]]}}

Near the beginning of Chris's [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|unsuccessful attempt]] in April 2010 to be unbanned from the [[The GAMe PLACe]], he felt the need to point out the possibility that Michael Snyder was Jewish, using his last name as a point of reference ("Snyder" is an alternative spelling of the surname "Schneider", which sometimes belongs to Jews). After failing to convince Snyder to lift the ban, Chris angrily called him a Jew and bolted out of the store, seemingly belying his claim to have no ill will towards the Jewish people. In a later video ([[Greene County Conspiracy|100 2178]]), Chris appears to restrain himself from calling Snyder a "greedy Jew". In an email to Katie Bay, he refers to Snyder as a "son of a bitch Jew" and a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> This probably is moreso a misguided attempt to mimic [[South Park#Chris fails to grasp South Park|Eric Cartman]] than the result of any deep-seated antisemitism.

It should be noted that Snyder once clarified in a YouTube comment that he is ''not'' Jewish (though whether this account actually belongs to him is probably not likely), and also that Chris took to using "Jew" like a curse word (because anything directed at blacks nearly got him [[Kick the Autistic|assaulted in retribution]] by patrons).<ref>Michael Snyder#Snyder's YouTube Comments</ref>

Chris finally apologized for insulting Michael on 31 [[March 2018]], after a [[CWC Ancestry|23andme test]] showed that he himself had 0.1% Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry. He characterized this as a "surprise."<ref>[https://archive.md/NR1Vv]</ref> As of 2020 his 23andme results no longer include Jewish ancestry.<ref>[[:File:DNA test.JPG]]</ref>

Funnily enough, according to Chris's [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|list of Adam & Eve purchases]], he had purchased "Nina Hartley's guide to sex toys", a pornographic video starring the titular porn star, who just so happened to be a Jewish Atheist. Whether Chris knew or cared about the fact he was [[mass debating]] to a woman whose race/ beliefs he showed such a prejudice to remains unknown.

Also, Chris has used the Yiddish phrase "oy vey" on occasion (most notably during the [[Jack Thaddeus#The Calls|Jack Thaddeus phone calls]]), though it's not uncommon for that phrase to be used outside of Jewish circles. Chris probably picked it up either from his parents, or from shows like ''Rugrats'' and ''The Simpsons''.

===Hispanics===
{{main|Chris and Spanish}}
[[File:455-EspanolicAndVegaton.JPG|thumb|left|Espanolic and Vegaton, the only [[Pokémon]] lazier than [[Snorlax]].]]

Aside from his rather tenuous grasp on the [[Spanish]] language, Chris has created a somewhat racist caricature in the form of [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|Espanolic]]. It's a Grass-type [[Pokémon]] that resembles an anthropomorphized [[Wikipedia:Sombrero|sombrero]] in front of what appears to be the flag of [[Wikipedia:Flag of Bolivia|Bolivia]] or [[Wikipedia:Flag of Ghana|Ghana]], and its main attack is confusing its enemies with its "strange language". Its evolved form, Vegaton, has an attack called "[[Wikipedia:Spanish fly|Spanish Fly]]", that puts its enemies to sleep.

Hilariously enough, [[Nintendo]] would later create similar Pokémon named Lombre and Ludicolo, which, despite being obvious stereotypes, were handled far more tactfully than Chris could hope to do.

So far, the only Hispanic character in the comics is [[Heather Iglesias]], the [[Homos|lesbian]] nanny of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children]], and then Chris's <s>self-cest</s> children. Chris is probably trying to be inclusive here, but he isn't creative or intelligent enough to think of anything besides a stereotypical occupation for Hispanic women. It also does not help her sentences are random mixes of Spanish and English – and no, not by throwing in a random word or two of Spanish into her sentences, but switching from English phrases to Spanish midway in her sentences (which appear to be Google-Translated).

It is worth noting that Chris sometimes refers to people of Latin American descent as "Spanish". This is not unheard of, especially among [[Borb|older generations]], but it is much less common than the terms "Hispanic" or "Latino".

Chris has shown in the past a willingness to [[Joshua Martinez|befriend]] and [[Lori Lopez|date]] Hispanics.

===Indians===

When TheGamerFromMars took Chris out to eat at an Indian restaurant during the filming of [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy]], Chris [[Random Access Humor|blurted out one-liners]] from ''[[The Simpsons]]'' character Apu (''complete with the stereotypical Indian accent''), much to the embarrassment and disapproval of his hosts. Despite that, Chris insisted on belting out another "Welcome to Kwik-E-Mart!" line before they sat down to eat, [[Autism|oblivious to the fact that he could have offended somebody.]]

[[Manajerks|"Turdijerk"]] from "Off-Target" has a vaguely South Asian appearance and the name may also be based on a stereotype of an Indian accent.

===Other white ethnicities/cultures===
Chris has not shown outright malevolence towards other white cultures, but is often ignorant of their customs and nations. In [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!]], for example, Chris plays an Irish song while wearing a kilt and pretending to be Scottish, then mentions a [[Wikipedia:Shillelagh_(club)|shillelagh]].

Chris has an extremely basic idea on eastern Europe and Russia; [[Sylvana]] was given a supposedly Russian accent midway through the comic for no discernable reason (although the way it was written made it look like a German accent instead).

==Troll manipulation==
{{quote|[giggling] No, say "niggers", you stupid twat.|[[BlueSpike]] to Chris.<ref>[[Julie Reveals Herself]]</ref>}}

In the [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call, [[BlueSpike]] coerced Chris into saying "niggers"; Chris attempted to substitute [[niggos]] instead, but BlueSpike insisted and Chris gave in. The term niggos became an infamous [[CWC-ism]].

In a [[June 2009]] video, Chris uploaded for Julie called [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]] which was a cover the song "Don't Trust Them New Niggas Over There" from The Boondocks. While Chris attempted to make it [[Homos|homophobic]], he still kept many of the racist lyrics from the original song and even repeated the word "nigga" on 3 different occasions in the song.

Chris called [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] a nigger on video<ref>[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]]</ref> and in email.<ref>[[Surfshack Tito E-mails]]</ref> Notably, he never used the term in this context either before or after his interaction with Tito, who is not even depicted as being a black person, suggesting Chris was [[manipulated]] by trolls behind the scenes into using the word.

In [[Jackie E-mails 14]], sweetheart [[Jackie]] asked Chris [[Song for Jackie.MOV|to dress up as Mr. Popo]] on video - a character from [[Dragon Ball]] with black skin, red lips and a turban - while singing "You ain't seen no Saiyans on the fiddle, / No Saiyans on the fiddle like this." Chris complied, though he was aware the costume would appear like blackface and placed a disclaimer stating that "this video presentation is NOT meant to make fun of the Blacks or the Hindus."

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga Chris was manipulated into [[Chris and fashion| dressing up as a gopnik]] (bottle of vodka included) while spouting the phrase "A nu cheeki breeki" and "Davai" over and over again (in reference to the stalker games which Joshua was obsessed with), although like many things during that saga the whole meme probably flew completely over Chris's head and actually was led to believe that the chant was Cherokean instead.

==Not a racist?==
[[Image:ECP 00024.jpg|thumb|left|Chris being a [[niggo|wiggo]].]]
{{quote|And I am NOT racist, and I like Jews.|Chris, in response to a [[Mailbag_6#Rejected_Mailbag|rejected mailbag]] email}}

{{quote|Blacks [...] are good people too.|Chris, in the [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV|disclaimer for his Mr. Popo video]]}}

Chris does not want to be considered a racist. He claims to respect blacks as equals, saying that in CWCville "they can even vote". Or if they can [[Reggie Fils-Aimé|help him get his inane and idiotic video game made]]. He also genuinely likes two black actors: [[My big 18th party (story)|Kenan & Kel]].

He did mention more than once that the reason he doesn't want black girls (but any other race is okay) is because he thinks God told him that his future daughter Crystal must be white, too. In an [[IRC (17 December 2008)|IRC]], Chris said he has no problem with dating an Asian. Later, in [[Mailbag 35]], he wrote he would date "Asian, Native or Hispanic women, as well as women of all other countries" (except the ones being black).

In [[February 2026]], during a series of admissions to previous misdeeds (in order to fuel his self-proclaimed [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]], Chris admitted to having been racist (citing [[Bob Chandler|his dad]] was bigoted) and claimed he felt "distraught" upon realizing his home environment's negative influence.<ref>[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]</ref>

==Chris's ethnic background==
{{Wise|he is part black and part Jewish.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref>}}

[[File:2023ChrisDNATest.png|thumb|200px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of January 13, 2023, showing that according to his genetics, he is predominantly of [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|British]] ancestry, with additional contributions from Northwestern and Southern European nations.]]
[[File:DNA test.JPG|thumb|500px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of 11 October 2020.]]
[[File:Ancestry composition1.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's original results which convinced him he was Jewish.]]

Influenced by his parents' claims, Chris has long asserted that he is of primarily [[Daniel Weston|English]] descent, with some [[Cherokian Clan|Cherokee]] heritage on Bob's side and some French heritage on Barb's. However, in March 2018, the [[Idea Guys]] had Chris apply for a DNA test from 23andMe to determine his ancestry,<ref>[[March 2018 social media posts#Apology to jewish people]]</ref> which showed that he was of 100% European genetic background, with slightly over half of this being British and most of the rest from across Northwestern Europe. The test also indicated that Chris had a trace amount (less than 0.1%) of Ashkenazi ("ash-KEN-azi") Jewish ancestry. Chris was also led to believe that he had black ancestry because his paternal haplogroup lineage, like all human lineages, began in Africa (as a matter of fact both his paternal and maternal haplogroups point to European origin). As a result, Chris declared that he was "Fully Observant of [his] Jewish ancestry" and that he was "black too." He apologized for his past offensiveness regarding Jews and black people.

Sometime between 2018 and 2020 Chris's 23andMe results were updated. They now show no Jewish ancestry whatsoever, showing a somewhat larger component of [[Mario|Italian]] ancestry instead. They also show that he is of 0.1% [[Cherokean Chant|Siberian]] ancestry, possibly the sign of a distant Native American ancestor as North Asian and Native American populations are closely related.<ref>[https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202906870-Can-23andMe-identify-Native-American-ancestry-]</ref> Chris has yet to comment on these new results.

In January 2023, Chris's 23andMe results were updated again. They showed a larger component of [[PewDiePie|Scandanavian]] and broadly Northwestern European ancestry, increased 0.1% of Italian and the rest of Northwestern European were decreased by a less 2%, and Siberian ancestry increased by 0.1%. It was also added that Chris had 0.1% of "unassigned" ancestry.

==Minority characters in ''Sonichu''==

Chris attempts to add in characters of various races and religions with decidedly mixed results. Many of his non-white characters are one-dimensional or barely relevant but then again so is every white one who isn't Chris in his world full of rainbow hedgehogs. Virtually all black characters are depicted as criminals, villains, or undesirables. The ones that aren't so lucky are treated like crap by the other characters or used in race-related jokes.

In the [[Mailbag]], when Chris is confronted about the lack of minorities in his comic he claims that all of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are considered "minorities" in CWCville, implying that he completely missed the point of the question. Despite being minorities, the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon group never experiences discrimination nor prejudices in the comic; [[homos|that's saved for another minority in CWCville]]. Chris tolerated a black [[Bubbles]] and Indian [[Magi-chan]] renditions in [[July 2020]].

*[[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]] (Jewish, good but immature)
*[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]] (<s>Paleface</s> Native American, lawful good)
*[[Wes Iseli#Wasabi Rival|Wasabi Rival]] (<s>Caucasian</s> Native American, evil)
*[[Sarah Nicole Hammer#Queen of the Cherokian Clan|Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] - (<s>white-washed</s> Native American, good, probably the whitest of all Native American characters in the comics as she's not only blue-eyed but also blonde)
*[[Manajerks#B-Manajerk|B-Manajerk]] (black, evil). A '''villain''' based off a real-life encounter. The B most likely stands for Black; the name was coined so that Chris could distinguish him from other [[Manajerks]]. This is quite similar to the way American black superheroes were named in the 1950-60s.
*[[Barack Obama]] (half-black, half-Arab). A cameo for the sake of a race-related joke. [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] told Chris a racist joke about then-senator Obama, which Chris illustrated within the pages of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]. Chris removed the joke after Obama won the election, but he probably only did that because he respects Obama now.
* [[Blake]] (black, evil turned good). A '''villain''' turned positive-aligned "bad boy". Black Sonichu/Blachu (whose name was later [[retconned|changed]] to Blake) was originally a villain, but switched sides because he's a recolor of [[Shadow the Hedgehog]]. In [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] which were uploaded in 2015 Blake is mistaken as black, being wished a "happy Kwanza, brother" from an African American, and goes on an angry rant about how his skin in not "sunburn color", he is black because of a mutation.
*[[CADD Chef]] (black, evil)
*[[Florance Fisher]] (black, good). A girl whose sole purpose in the comic is to be rejected by Reginald.
*[[Jerkhief]] (black, lawful evil). The Big Cheese of the Jerkops.
** Occasionally other [[Jerkop]]s are shown to be black as well. No other minorities are apparent aside from possibly Turdijerk (see below).
*[[Punchy]] (East Asian, good)
*[[Silvana]] (black, evil [said to turn good])
*[[Manajerks#Turdijerk and Trebor Capman (Accomplice)|Turdijerk]] (drawn with brownish skin and brown hair, possibly Indian(?), evil)
*[[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Constable Louis Perez]] (black police officer who talks entirely in stereotypical black slang)
*[[Inos]] (black, [[tobacky]] smoker). A homeless, intoxicated, diseased, drug-pushing, expectorating Jamaican with filthy dreadlocks.
*[[Heather Iglesias]] (Hispanic, lesbian, good, <s>never seen</s> debuts in ''Sonichu'' #12)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Dr. Bill Schwartz (Bill the Scientist)|Bill Schwartz]] (possibly Jewish, worked for [[Giovanni]] but later on changed sides)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Ching Chong|Ching Chong]] (Asian, appeared in the [[Wedding Comic]] as a flower girl)
*PHI Spring Break reporter (black, appears in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]) - despite the woman only appearing in one panel, Chris manages to make her into a stereotype, addressing the audience as "sistas and brothas".

==Sources==
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[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|Chris, surrounded by family and friends.]]

Chris is somewhat capable of '''socializing''', despite what one may assume, given aspects like his social awkwardness and the epic failure of his [[Love Quest]]. Being a nerd and, as of [[2014]], a [[Tomgirl|member of the LGBT community]], Chris has common interests and values with his friends. Awkwardness arises when Chris attempts to take part in conversations which exceed his limited interests, as his broken social filter and lack of common social etiquette due to his [[autism]] can lead to him saying [[Honest Content|inappropriate things]] or attempting to steer the topic to cartoons, video games, [[Messiah complex|godhood]], or the [[SLGBTQ]].

==In real life==
The earliest known example of Chris socializing with someone other than [[Borb]] were his interactions with [[Sarah Hammer]], who moved in next door to the Chandlers when he was approximately three years old. Chris fondly remembers using her swing set, playing hide and seek among other things <ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood]]</ref> <ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>, but he, far from a good judge of character even in his younger days, seemed oblivious to Sarah's less than good intentions. At least twice, she could have caused him harm of her own volition, locking him in a crawlspace and convincing him the berries of a honeysuckle (which can cause [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|stomach problems]]) tasted like honey. [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|He nonchalantly documented both incidents]], in stark contrast to [[Kick the Autistic|what he thinks of perceived wrongdoers]].

He stated his formative years also included interactions with "other neighborhood children"<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>. Chris himself noted [[Gal-pals|they were mainly girls]], though he also befriended [[Joshua Martinez]] (who'd eventually troll him) when attending speech therapy.

More notably, [[Manchester High|in his high school years]], he attended classes and ate lunch with a female circle of friends (because he found the [[JERKS|males]], except for his older friend [[Joseph Herring]], to be immature). However, the only time they were ever known to have spent time with each other outside Manchester High was for [[My big 18th party|his 18th birthday party]], and even then, no photos of the occasion show him and even one of the girls near each other. Chris found out about 15 years later that they were never legitimate friends; their attention was [[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Gal Pals|arranged]] by [[Bob]] and the principal in a misguided attempt to socialize Chris.

After high school, and in particular after he was suspended from [[college]], Chris used whatever free time he wasn't using at home to attempt socializing in the wild, whether it be for attempting to score [[sweetheart]]s or otherwise. His most notable social endeavors occurred at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where he met [[Megan Schroeder]]. The two formed a strong friendship, but Chris failed to pick up how she merely wanted to be just friends with him, even when she outright told him so numerous times. To cut a long story short, [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|things went]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|very rocky]], and by 2008 Megan had severed ties with him; Chris was also banned from the aforementioned GAMe PLACe, due to acting too hostile to other patrons and card game players.

His other notable social endeavors occurred at the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], which he'd haunt regularly. When he wasn't shopping at its stores or going on [[Date with Emily|ill-fated dates]], Chris spent a lot of his time [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer|pacing around]] in the hopes that he would eventually meet a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. Due to his antics, Chris received many run-ins with [[jerkops]] and temporary (eventually permanent) bans from the outlet.

In [[2014]], Chris began attending [[Cville Pride]] and the [[Impulse Gay Social Club]], both of which would gradually become frequent hangout spots for him. These would serve as stepping stones for Chris to further grow out of his shell, and he later began regularly attending other places of that ilk, including LGBT events at [[University of Virginia]]. The next year would see him attending [[The End Games]] (a card game store) before being banned in 2018. There, he met a few adult [[Pokémon League friends]] who hung out with him outside of the club.

[[File:Cwc cville pride 2017.jpg|thumb||200px|left|At Cville Pride.]]

Sadly, though, Chris regressed back into staying at home thanks to what the [[Idea Guys]] did to him, giving up real life socializing in favor of his [[imaginary friends]] and internet [[enablers]]. He would nevertheless continue going to certain places such as [[conventions]] until [[Jail Saga|late 2021]].
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==Over the Internet==
The Internet has been one of Chris's primary tools for socializing. Chris has regularly used social media websites, dating websites, and some forums as tools to talk with others and hopefully make either some new friends and/or sweethearts.

In 2017, he made attempts to socialize on Twitter with women he saw as potential [[gal-pals]], including voice actresses from some of his favorite shows. His tweets seem to illustrate how he tries to fit into conversations - namely, that he likes to shoehorn in references to cartoons.<ref>[[2017 tweets]]</ref> These attempts, as time went on, [[TF2 Analysis|didn't go over too well]].

===Planet Dolan===

{{main|Planet Dolan|DoopieDoOver|LadyOfTheCosmo}}

[[File:Doopiedrawing.jpg|thumb|Chris commissioned this from Doopie.]]

Doopie is a voice actress/animator for the YouTube channel [[Planet Dolan]]. Chris discovered the channel in August 2016 and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His social awkwardness in full display, he tweeted to her on the subjects of poop,<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref> his hatred of online dating,<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref> and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt.<ref>[[March 2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>

In June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon. A Like on her post, which is hidden behind a paywall, implies that Chris is pledging $25 per month to her.<ref>https://archive.md/52tZh</ref> He has also paid her $25 for a commission to serve as a profile picture. Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for $50, ostensibly to help him and his mother.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>

Doopie is fully aware of Chris’s online reputation, and sees him as just another customer, as she explained:

{{quoteboxyellow|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.

(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}

On 25 August 2017, Chris tweeted to [[LadyOfTheCosmo]], a close friend of Doopie, on Twitter. He consequently got destroyed by her in an ensuing tweet war.

==Conventions==
{{Main|List of conventions attended by Chris}}

Chris has attended many conventions over the years, initially only having been to two in the early to mid-2000s, but later expanding to many in the 2010s. For him, he's generally had a great time attending them; it's a rare chance for him to get out of his house and surround himself with like-minded people, therefore making it easier to Chris to socialize with others. He's stated he's felt more accepted at conventions, though it's debatable whether this interpretation of his is true or not.

==Looking forward==
In [[August 2021]], Chris was arrested after it was revealed he had engaged in [[Affair With Mother|incestuous acts]] with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Chris eventually received an [[autism disorder deferred disposition]] after a lengthy court process (that included a stint in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], a stay at a [[Western State Hospital|psychiatric hospital]], and a [[Gateway Homes|group home]] transfer). Due to the deferred disposition program, Chris was released from jail in [[March 2023]] and his case was dismissed in [[August 2023]]. Chris gradually returned to social media where he resumed his usual antics.

A mysterious woman nicknamed [[Flutter]] by Chris has been routinely spotted hanging out with him in public following the dismissal of his charge; she had reached out to Chris while he was in jail, and her role or purpose in interacting with him is unknown.

Chris apparently still maintains contact with his mother, although now living separately from her. According to a comment in April 2024 by Gamer from Mars, Chris said he meets with her about once a month.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Conspiracy#Interview comments]]</ref> While Chris didn't socialize much with his extended family prior to the incest, he may have a more difficult time with it now, given that his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] banned him from their home upon initially learning of the incest.

Even after his release, the affair still comes back to haunt him. Chris attempted to resume going to [[conventions]] as he had before the incest charge, but quickly found himself [[ban]]ned from three - [[Animate! Raleigh]], [[BABSCon]] (the con literally declaring him persona non grata) and [[HarmonyCon]], in which he claimed to be undergoing a [[Redemption Arc|redemption arc]]. He was, however, lucky enough to spend one whole day at the [[List of conventions#Festival of Light|Festival of Light]] in [[May 2025]] without incident.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and kindness]]
*[[COVID-19]]

{{References}}

{{Chris and}}
{{People}}

Redemption Arc

2026-02-16T22:10:22Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{quote|I am in my Redemption Arc. Please be kind to me, I have repented. All of you should be Soul Searching.|What Chris wrote on a business card before getting kicked out of [[HarmonyCon]] and shouting at random people.}}
{{quote|Everyone, I realize and understand that over the years, I have been a real jerk. I've said and done insensitive things to others over the years. What did it get me? A lot of being trolled, and lots of regrets.
I solemnly swear: from now on, I will never ever again be a jerk. ⚡️💙⚡️|Chris, promising he won't be a [[JERKS|jerk]] again.<ref>[[August 2025 social media posts#Jerk Retirement]]</ref>}}
[[File:HarmonyCon Redemption Arc card.jpg|thumb|300px]]
In fiction, a character, usually a villainous one, goes through a "'''redemption arc'''" when they go through a significant change to atone for their past actions. Outside of fiction, a real-life "redemption arc" involves a deliberate, continuous shift from destructive, immoral actions toward personal growth.

Chris, infamous for being all talk and no bite, will, from time to time, claim that he has learned his lesson, make promises that he will never repeat the actions again, and state that he should not face the consequences of his actions because of it.

Also, and unfortunately for Chris, virtually no one will accept his so-called "redemption arc" because he doesn't live in a TV show ''and'' (most of all) he is [[Chris and his ego|too narcissistic to ever acknowledge his mistakes]], thus preventing him being truly remorseful and willing to change how he acts.

==Times that Chris Had Claimed to Have "Redeemed" Himself==

*On 19 [[May 2025]], Chris uploaded a video on YouTube titled [[Grounded Deep Response]].
*On 9 [[August 2025]], Chris stated on [[Twitter]] that he realized how much of a jerk he's been throughout his Internet career, claiming that he deserved to get trolled and harassed because of it. Following that, he made the bold claim that he will "never" be a jerk again.
*On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris had attempted to attend [[HarmonyCon]] in disguise. Seeing how Chris got banned from many previous brony conventions due to a rather [[Affair with Mother|horrifying turn of events]], he created a business card, which he likely intended to leave in case anyone saw him. Outside of him telling the people at the event to "Touch Grass", when people figured out he was at the event, he was kicked out of the convention. As he was getting kicked out, Chris was recorded shouting at people.
* On 16 February 2026, Chris [[February 2026 social media posts#Roleplaying as God to complain about HarmonyCon ban|posted a roleplay as God on]] [[Bluesky]], wherein he claims Chris has been "forgiven" and "cleansed" both by God and other deities, urging everyone to dole out "kindness and support" for his redemption arc, in response to the aforementioned ban from HarmonyCon.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and hypocrisy]]
*[[Chris and introspection]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]

{{References}}
{{CWC-isms}}

Redemption Arc

2026-02-16T22:04:56Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Times that Chris Had Claimed to Have "Redeemed" Himself */

{{Needs Updating|[[February 2026 social media posts#Roleplaying as God to complain about HarmonyCon ban]]}}
{{quote|I am in my Redemption Arc. Please be kind to me, I have repented. All of you should be Soul Searching.|What Chris wrote on a business card before getting kicked out of [[HarmonyCon]] and shouting at random people.}}
{{quote|Everyone, I realize and understand that over the years, I have been a real jerk. I've said and done insensitive things to others over the years. What did it get me? A lot of being trolled, and lots of regrets.
I solemnly swear: from now on, I will never ever again be a jerk. ⚡️💙⚡️|Chris, promising he won't be a [[JERKS|jerk]] again.<ref>[[August 2025 social media posts#Jerk Retirement]]</ref>}}
[[File:HarmonyCon Redemption Arc card.jpg|thumb|300px]]
In fiction, a character, usually a villainous one, goes through a "'''redemption arc'''" when they go through a significant change to atone for their past actions. Outside of fiction, a real-life "redemption arc" involves a deliberate, continuous shift from destructive, immoral actions toward personal growth.

Chris, infamous for being all talk and no bite, will, from time to time, claim that he has learned his lesson, make promises that he will never repeat the actions again, and state that he should not face the consequences of his actions because of it.

==Times that Chris Had Claimed to Have "Redeemed" Himself==

*On 19 [[May 2025]], Chris uploaded a video on YouTube titled [[Grounded Deep Response]].
*On 9 [[August 2025]], Chris stated on [[Twitter]] that he realized how much of a jerk he's been throughout his Internet career, claiming that he deserved to get trolled and harassed because of it. Following that, he made the bold claim that he will "never" be a jerk again.
*On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris had attempted to attend [[HarmonyCon]] in disguise. Seeing how Chris got banned from many previous brony conventions due to a rather [[Affair with Mother|horrifying turn of events]], he created a business card, which he likely intended to leave in case anyone saw him. Outside of him telling the people at the event to "Touch Grass", when people figured out he was at the event, he was kicked out of the convention. As he was getting kicked out, Chris was recorded shouting at people.
* On 16 February 2026, Chris [[February 2026 social media posts#Roleplaying as God to complain about HarmonyCon ban|posted a roleplay as God on]] [[Bluesky]], wherein he claims Chris has been "forgiven" and "cleansed" both by God and other deities, urging everyone to dole out "kindness and support" for his redemption arc, in response to the aforementioned ban from HarmonyCon.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and hypocrisy]]
*[[Chris and introspection]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]

{{References}}
{{CWC-isms}}

Chris and introspection

2026-02-15T18:15:33Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge */

{{Incomplete|Complete sections on Self-Awareness, Perseveration, and Self-Projection}}
{{Quote|I have been slowly but surely mentally, and emotionally, and spiritually- [flips over the Sonichu medallion] been maturing. [dramatic sigh]|Chris.<ref>[[Grounded Deep Response]]</ref>}}

'''Introspection''' involves the examination of one's own inner workings and past actions, typically to make more well-informed decisions in the future.<ref>{{w|Introspection}}</ref> Possibly as a result of his [[autism]], which affects how he perceives how his actions affects others, combined with his inflated ego, Chris has been noted for lacking the ability to do any sort of true reflection upon himself or to take accountability his actions. Chris then winds up making the same mistakes and blunders over and over and over again, and Christory is doomed to repeat itself.

Chris believes that he is a blameless, [[Chris and religion|holy]] creature that is [[Mary Poppins|practically perfect in every way]]. However, he sees plenty of flaws in the world around him that cause him [[stress]], never once thinking that his behavior might be the problem. He blames all of his problems on external factors like [[trolls]], [[homos]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracies]] or the [[JERKS|entire male population]]. In the past he's faulted the [[Jerkop|police]], [[Manajerks|store managers]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Jerkop|mall security guards]] for complications during his [[Love Quest]]. When Chris can't fault other people for his problems, he relies on autism and stress as fallback excuses.

==Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge==
{{Main|Redemption Arc}}
Part of one's understanding of themselves is the awareness of their character, thoughts, and actions, and how they affect other people. Chris is noted for his utterly [[Chris and his ego|warped image of himself]], also being highly sensitive to how other people see him to the point where [[Affirmations List|he sometimes focuses on "positives" about himself]] and expects everyone around him to do the same.

Also, because he is accustomed to seeing himself as a helpless innocent victim of others' cruelty (for "reasons" that amount to imaginary desires on others' part to aggrieve him simply for the sake of it), he at best virtually or at worst flat out doesn't acknowledge that something he did caused the conflict in the first place. For example, when Chris refused to accept being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he ''barely'' admitted to doing something negative (i.e. [[100 2261.MOV|shouting from stress]] and [[Jackie E-mails#Chris hates authority|writing an insulting message to the store's manager]]) that got himself shown the door while [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|other accounts]] revealed that Chris was openly hostile, bigoted and generally obnoxious to fellow patrons and card game players.

==Self-Hatred==
{{See also|Chris and remorse}}
Chris has a tendency to express regret towards past happenings in his life, to the point of seeing his past, "Classic" self in a very negative light. However, when (much less if) he tries expressing remorse, it comes across as hollow and insincere, especially given Chris obviously wants to appease whoever he has upset and/or gain something desired in return over trying to better himself and avoid repeating the same mistakes.

Furthermore, Chris tends to focus on or contrive reasons why something went wrong that differ from what happened and what he should ''actually'' be apologizing for, such as when Chris believed [[Megan Schroeder]] [[Megan emails, 2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|misunderstood the sexual act he depicted]] (rather than being disgusted that she was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|featured in pornographic artwork without her consent]]) or that he owed [[Mary Lee Walsh]] an apology just for depicting her as a villain in his comics, without acknowledging that he both flouted campus rules ''and'' foolishly put her on the receiving end of aggression (in that order).

==Victim Complex==
Chris is known for portraying himself as a sort of perpetual victim, always being wronged by someone.

Due to her tremendous influence on the CWCSphere, the Kiwi Farms user [[Spooky Bones]] was able to spread many, many rumors about [[Isabella Loretta Janke]], the person who intended to leak the [[Incest call]] anonymously. As a result of the leaking of the call putting Chris in jail, Spooky's claims about Bella; along with the overwhelmingly negative reception she's received due to her online activities; had made it easier for him to turn Bella into a scapegoat, and avoid taking responsibility for his crime.

==Self-Projection==
{{Main|Chris and hypocrisy}}

==Stance on Being Transgender==
Chris considers being [[transgender|trans]] as being one of the most introspective moments of his life.

==See Also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Chris and his ego]]
*[[Chris and mental healthcare]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]
*[[Enablers]] - People who allow Chris to avoid introspection.
*[[Meditation]]

{{References}}
{{Chris and}}

List of places that have banned Chris

2026-02-15T18:12:00Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Protip|Don't be a [[weening|ween]] and harass any of the places Chris has been to in the hopes of getting him banned. Yes, sadly, [[The End Games#Management's perspective|people have done that.]]}}
{{quote|Bann has happened again.|[[Chris]], after being banned from [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]] for the third time.<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (paintingatree)#Bann has happened again]]</ref>}}

[[File:Chris_gets_banned_minty.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction of Chris being banned.]]
[[Image:BANHAMMER.png|thumb|The weapon of choice.]]

Although he is (at least physically) a grown adult, [[Chris]] is not above [[Chris and anger|throwing tantrums]] and being a nuisance in public places. Because of his obnoxious behavior, Chris has been either temporarily or permanently '''banned''' from many places, physical and not. Following his [[Affair with Mother|incest]] charge, it is expected that this list is going to get much, much longer.

==Stores and businesses==
===The GAMe PLACe===
{{main|The GAMe PLACe}}

According to [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]], Chris was banned twice. The first time, which was temporary, was when Chris attempted to take out a box of prizes and badges for the ''[[Pokémon]]'' [[card game]] league without permission and authorization to do so. [[Michael Snyder]] later wound up permabanning him on 28 August [[2008]], after Chris got aggressive with a [[Chris and Race#Black_people|black child]], but even this failed to keep Chris away from the store. Following the events of [[28 October 2011]], Chris was definitively banned by court order from ever re-entering the store, all the way to its shutdown in [[June 2014]].

===Charlottesville Fashion Square===
{{main|Charlottesville Fashion Square}}

Chris was busted four times here, once for [[Love Quest|loitering]]. The second incident may or may not have been Chris's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" shout upon learning [[Hanna]] was [[troll]]ing him. He was banned for a year, but the ban has since expired. On 28 [[April 2012]], it was revealed he was banned again, this time from arguing with trolls loudly on his phone. He then violated that ban when he committed the [[26 December 2014]] pepper spray incident. Proving that he failed to learn anything, Chris trespassed at the mall in March 2018, ending up on the [[Therapeutic Docket]] alternative sentencing program after the mall staff caught him.<ref>[[Chris and the Law#2018]]</ref> This act of leniency by the court failed to deter Chris from going to the mall.

===Walmart===
{{main|Mal-Wart}}

Chris has been kicked out of Walmart on at least four separate occasions. On 23 June [[2005]], the [[Chris and Race#Black_people|African-American]] [[Manajerks|manager]] of the [[Charlottesville]] store's [[McDonald's]] (depicted as the [[B-Manajerk]] by Chris in the comics) attempted to have Chris arrested for loitering, but his own fast thinking and hiding his Attraction Sign (which got him in trouble in the first place) ended up with him removed from the restaurant for the rest of the day (or so he says). The actual banning came two days later, on 25 June, when Chris returned and attempted to loiter again. Both managers for McDonald's and Walmart confronted Chris, but Chris refused to listen to the managers, ran off, and nearly ran ''over'' one of them. In late [[2009]], he returned to Walmart, forcing one of the female employees to measure him for a [[sports bra]].

Proving he learns nothing, Chris was again banned in September [[2013]], this time at the recent [[Ruckersville]] location, after vandalizing an Xbox One sign to read "[[HEXbox]] One," according to his [[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris Expresses His Outrage for Walmart|Facebook post]] on 6 [[September 2013]]. In the ensuing Facebook posts, he blames almost everyone else but himself for the ban, including [[Michael Snyder]], [[Megan Schroeder]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and even his defense attorney [[Rob Bell]]. A year later, Chris got thrown out of Walmart yet again, after an employee recognized and confronted him. He eventually left, but not before threatening the employee with pepper spray. For reference, this came less than a week after he was arrested for attacking a GameStop employee with mace.

===Target===
{{main|Get-Tar Region}}

On 20 July 2005 (almost a month after Chris's incident over at Walmart), he attempted to loiter at a newly-built Target, intending on [[Obesity|exploiting their free soda refill deal]] while he tried to get boyfriend-free girls. According to [[Emily]], Chris was approached by management and asked to leave, but he refused. When the issue was pressed, he insulted and forced them to call the cops. When they did, Chris tried to run, forcing them to tackle, hogtie and handcuff him. All this during the store's opening week!

===McDonald's===
Chris was temporarily banned from a [[McDonald's]] in Forest Lakes in [[June 2012]]. According to [[Kim Wilson]], Chris had been loitering in the restaurant to grab newspapers that customers had left behind<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (LoveYouLongTime)#McDonalds Ban]]</ref> - he had wanted newspaper for [[Clover and Snoopy|the Chandler dogs]] to relieve themselves on<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (LoveYouLongTime)#More on McDonalds Ban]]</ref> since it was [[Barbara]]'s policy for the dogs to do that on newspapers inside the house.

An employee confronted Chris about it, and he was ordered to leave, but not before taking two unsolicited photos of people at the restaurant. He then ranted on Facebook about the experience, trying to incite his readers to "throw newspaper in the damn old bitchy, black woman's face!!!".<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Discriminated at McDonald's]]</ref>

===GameStop===
Chris had already been banned from the Fashion Square branch of his local GameStop for his [[Sonic Boom Protests]] when, on [[26 December 2014]], he came "[[Honor roll|disguised]]" in a pair of ''[[My Little Pony]]'' [[Chris and fashion|novelty sunglasses]], supposedly intending to buy a new ''Skylanders'' figure and some secondhand Wii U games. However, the staff confronted him and were unmoved by his protests that he was there to actually buy stuff rather than vandalize their property. He eventually left, but not before assaulting one of the employees by spraying his can of pink mace at his shirt, [[Chris and the law|a felony]]. This act resulted in him being arrested.

After Chris was let off with a fine in [[October 2015]], he received a letter purporting to be from GameStop, informing him that his ban had been upgraded to a statewide one. Chris uploaded [[GameStop is UNFAIR to Everyone; Not Just Me!|a video]] about this on 7 December. However, the statewide ban was later proven to be the work of a [[trolls|troll]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-12-7-chris-decries-gamestops-discrimination-against-battletoads.15158/page-10#post-1135462 (archive: https://archive.ph/df0l4)</ref>

It is known, however, that Chris is apparently banned from the majority of GameStop locations in his area, likely due to the aforementioned incident. This resulted in him once driving two hours away from Ruckersville in order to find a location he was able to visit.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Welfare Check on Barbara]]</ref>

===Best Buy===
Chris was caught attempting to shoplift video games at Best Buy<ref>[[Best Buy#Attempted shoplifting]]</ref> in early 2014.

According to Chris, he was formally notified that he was banned from Best Buy a few days after 29 December 2014, when he was released from jail on bail following the GameStop pepper spray incident.

He stated in November 2015 that he believed he was banned as part of a conspiracy masterminded by the [[Yellow-Shirted Foe]], who he thought was working at both GameStop and Best Buy.<ref>[[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]]</ref>

{{quotebox|To make this, to make that story short, a few days after I got out of jail on December 28th ''[sic]'', 2014, and I had absolutely no pepper spray on my person whatsoever, because as I had mentioned earlier, I had emptied the canister and disposed of the can-, canister. I had done nothing at the Best Buy prior to that day. And a certain manager spokes the living crap outta me, tellin’ me I was not welcome there, that I was banned from there. I had asked why. He did not give me any answer. Then I reached into my bag to get some money out, little funds to see if I could pay my way out of this. I had not said anything about the pepper spray whatsoever, but I put my hand in the bag, and his subordinate shouts, ‘He’s going for the pepper spray!’ I stopped in surprise after hearing that. Ultimately, I left the store. I had gone there again months later to be met with the same shpiel, and no answer to why. I even went over dere head, on the telephone, to try to resolve it. Nothing.

Then last Tuesday, November 10th, I went there once again to buy LEGO Dimensions Pack with a ten-dollar certificate. I got met in the back of the store with the shpiel once again, and this time I asked why and I finally got the answer. They said that I, quote, threatened them with pepper spray, and we have video footage, unquote. But again, that first time they said anything about me not being welcome there, I had not, nor ever, threatened anyone at that store. Nor had I any pepper spray on any of my visits there, then, and prior.}}

On 2 October 2016, he reaffirmed that he was still banned.<ref>[[October 2016 Facebook posts#Still banned from Best Buy]]</ref>

===The End Games===
{{main|The End Games}}
Chris posted to his Pokémon club's Facebook page on 20 March 2018, pleading to be let back into the shop. The End Games confirmed his ban on 29 March. The ban came as a result of Chris arguing with the manager over whether [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] counted as a [[Pokémon]]; apparently, this was either due to another argument with a game judge or Chris trying to put Sonichu on the store's sign.

Two years later, on [[January 2020]], the store's Twitter page blocked Chris's account after he demanded the shop unban him so he could learn to play ''Dungeons & Dragons''.

===Anytime Fitness===
{{main|Anytime Fitness}}
Chris was coerced by the [[Idea Guys]] to get a membership at this place and was there for a month or two before getting the boot. Chris got complaints from other patrons due to being [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|gassy]] and [[Fangs|burping]] a lot, and the constant phone calls from [[weens]] regarding Chris's patronage didn't help matters.

===Papa John's (delivery only)===
On 5 [[August 2019]], Chris [[August 2019 social media posts#Chris caused a fender-bender and kicked a cop car; discovers he's blacklisted from Papa Johns|reported]] that the Papa John's in Charlottesville refused to deliver pizza to the Chandlers at [[14 Branchland Court]], due to [[trolls]] and [[weens]] spending years prank-calling the establishment posing as Chris. Chris only found out about the partial ban after driving to the place to find out why their orders were being canceled; he is still able to order pizza in person. It's extremely likely there are other pizza places that have had Chris's address blacklisted for the same reason.


==Institutions==
===Cub Scouting===
Chris stated in part 4 of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] that he was kicked out of the "[[Wikipedia:Cub Scouting (Boy Scouts of America)|Wolf Cub Scouts]]" in the late [[1980s]] because he was autistic. Undoubtedly, it was for something he did that he didn't tell us about. His comments suggested that he routinely angered his Den Mother with his illogical behavior and that he believed this to be the reason he is banned. In 2014, while on his [[Catie Date Conversation Transcript|date]] with [[Catherine]], he elaborated that he was probably "being outbursting and loud for something," although he couldn't remember. In [[Mailbag 18#Instead the courts were on the side of justice|a Mailbag]], Chris revealed that his parents tried to sue the Boy Scouts of America over this incident.

===Piedmont Virginia Community College===
{{main|Piedmont Virginia Community College}}

Two incidents occurred here during Chris's time as a student, and a third incident occurred three years after his graduation.

The first was on Chris's 21st [[birthday]], 24 February [[2003]]. Chris originally blamed the incident on his having an outburst when he was kicked out of a class after telling a male professor that he, like the main character in a story they were learning about, was autistic. According to [[Emily]] and other accounts, however, it turns out that he was kicked out because the topic of [[homos|homosexuality]] had come up in class, and he had shouted or written something homophobic and possibly [[Chris and race|racist]] (he stated it was "exclamations you'd likely hear from a black person in church").<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]]</ref> It is also unclear whether Chris was merely kicked out of class for the day or whether he was dropped from the course altogether. In any event, Chris started his [[Love Quest]] this day.

The second incident was in October [[2003]] when the Dean of Student Services [[Mary Lee Walsh]] spotted Chris and his [[Attraction Sign]] and took it away, as she believed he was trying to solicit sex on campus. When Walsh destroyed a second sign, Chris [[Chris and anger|raged]] and went on the offensive. At one point, he sent Walsh a note that expressed his dislike of her and featured a drawing of an "intimidating glare". This was interpreted by Walsh as harassment, and led to her suspending Chris for a year, forcing him to see a [[Autism papers|psychiatrist]] and go to anger management classes before returning (neither of which seem to have helped).

In [[2009]], Chris would be banned permanently from the PVCC campus after his attempt to deliver an "apology drawing" to Mary Lee Walsh. Walsh did not feel like once again dealing with somebody she wanted to keep far away from herself and her students, and in response, banned him from school grounds. She sent over an envelope with a trespassing notice to his parents; Chris initially said they never bothered to open or properly read it,<ref>[[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL]]</ref><ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)#IRL Stalker (Or so they Wrongfully Claim)]]</ref> but later claimed they tried to unsuccessfully appeal the notice.<ref>[[Apology Letters#Mary Lee Walsh Apology]]</ref>

===Grace Baptist Church===
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Chris was banned from his old church in [[2008]]. He claimed in an email with [[lordsillynipples]], "Pastor John Hartless did not like my views I've expressed in [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|my video I did on my 25th Birthday]], and he found the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page." Later, in [[Mailbag 14]], he claimed it was because "The pastor did a background check on me, and found images of [[Women's rights|women in bikinis]] on my [[Facebook]]; he was offended." Going by his frequent threats to use his new congregation as a personal army, it is not unlikely that Chris was booted out of the church when he linked his pastor to his ED page in the hope that Mr. Hartless would incite the congregation into raiding the ED page for Chris.

===Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church===
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A [[Other documents#Epistle to the Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|letter]] leaked on 30 March 2013 revealed that sometime between [[July 2011]] and [[March 2013]], Chris had earned himself a temporary ban from Wesley Methodist, probably because he had repeatedly (and annoyingly) aired his endless grievances about trolls during the homily.

{{quote|I feel that ever since Reverend Elizabeth Foss left our church, it has greatly gone downhill for me. Ed Winkler Banned me from the church for a month. He has Banned me from Speaking my peace during the Sharing of Joys and Concerns, and from that, I have felt unnecessarily Silenced.|Chris, on how his own church is now playing [[Kick the Autistic]]}}

Not long after, Chris had asked [[Rocky Shoemaker]] to distribute copies of a letter that not only called her advice ineffective, but also accused God himself of playing [[Kick the Autistic]], which further strained the relationship between him and his fellow congregants.

Chris got into hot water at the church again a few years later. In August 2017, he decided to wear his [[unicorn cosplay]] from [[BronyCon]] to a service and had to be told to remove it due to its being wildly inappropriate.

Although Chris has not been permanently banned from Wesley Memorial (so far as we know), he ceased his involvement with the church at some point in the late 2010s as his [[Chris and religion|religious views]] had diverged too greatly from mainstream Christianity.

==Events==
===TooManyGames===
{{main|TooManyGames}}

Chris was kicked out of the [[June 2018]] convention on Day 2 as a result of being inappropriately touchy with and kissing attendees. He reacted by curling down on the floor for a good period of time before security took him out.

As far as we know, he was not banned from future conventions, but he never made another attempt to attend.

===Seaquestria Fest===
[[File:Ban_List_(Feat._Chris).png|thumb|Seaquestria's ban list]]

Chris expressed interest in attending this [[My Little Pony]] convention, which was to be held in Ocean City, Maryland in May 2020.<ref>[[Children of Kefentse#Possible MLP Cons]]</ref> However, the convention had him at the top of a preemptive ban list, incidentally above a known [[pedofork]]. It was postponed twice due to the [[COVID-19|coronavirus]] pandemic and was finally held for the first time in May 2022, at which point Chris was in jail.<ref>https://www.horse-news.org/2020/03/seaquestria-fest-exposing-everything.html</ref>

===[[Everfree Northwest]]===
Chris wanted to attend this Seattle MLP convention, making plans in [[June 2021|June]] and [[July 2021]] to go, but was banned following the initial [[Incest Call]] fallout.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Chris's Final Messages in the Knights Server]]</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGpsx6Wnqw</ref>

===[[Animate! Raleigh]]===
According to Redditor DeadStargazer, a friend claimed to have witnessed Chris being escorted out of this Raleigh, North Carolina convention by staff along with [[Flutter]] on Day 2,<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1907pum/chris_chan_kicked_out_of_animate_raleigh/ ([https://archive.fo/bWEz2 archive])</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1907pum/comment/kgn0c0r/?context=3 ([https://archive.fo/WDBeL archive])</ref> likely after a [[Weening|snitch]] informed convention staff about Chris' status as a [[Affair with Mother|motherfucker]]. Chris nevertheless coped with the ban by claiming he had a "nice weekend."<ref>[[January 2024 social media posts#Nice weekend]]</ref>

===[[BABSCon]]===
[[File:BABSCon Framed Chris Emails.jpeg|thumb|100px|Truly a work of modern art.]]
On 8 [[March 2024]], BABSCon staff replied to Chris informing him of his status as a "persona non grata" and banned him from attending the [[2024]] event, as well as all future BABSCons. Chris argued back in an email response, but failed to persuade staff.<ref>[[BABSCon E-mails]]</ref> Chris then tweeted, stating "#BABSCon is not worth a grain of salt."<ref>[[March 2024 social media posts#BABSCon]]</ref>

The email exchange was framed and passed around during the Mare Gallery party.

===[[HarmonyCon]]===
On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris attempted to attend HarmonyCon in disguise as the [[Power Rangers|White Power Ranger]]. A few convention-goers recorded Chris from different angles as he was being kicked out of the building by staff, shouting nonsense in the process. Chris apparently made a futile effort not to get banned by way of leaving behind a [[Business card|business card]], attempting to convince congoers he was going through a "[[Redemption arc|redemption arc]]".

==Websites==
===PlayStation Network===
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Chris has gotten at least one temporary ban from the PlayStation Network's social networking features as a result of making [[death threats]] to [[Adam Stackhouse]] and several others in one of his blog entries during [[August 2007]], over Adam's beating him in the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]] through what Chris incorrectly claimed was a violation of the rules. One of the site's moderators ordered Chris to remove the blog entry, and when Chris responded by telling the moderator to "SHUT UP AND GO READ THE OFFICIAL RULES!!!!", he found himself being slapped with a ban lasting approximately a month.

===DeviantART===
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Chris has been banned twice from deviantART. Both times were for a reason that you can probably guess right off the bat: sexual imagery without even bothering to use the proper mature content filters. The first time was around [[May 2009]], most likely due to the imagery from [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]]; the second was August 28, 2009, due to the infamous cameltoe scene in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] and the sex scene between [[Blake]] and [[Bubbles Rosechu]] in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

===YouTube===
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Chris abandoned many of his accounts after troll attacks. One of his accounts, CChanSonichu, was suspended because of [[The July 10th Messages|three insulting videos]] he posted in tandem on 10 [[July 2009]].

On 23 [[July 2016]], Chris [[July 2016 Facebook posts#2 Strikes on Youtube|posted]] that YouTube had temporarily banned his CwcvilleGuardian account from uploading videos. Chris believed that the ban was due to his use of the "F word". In reality, YouTube had banned him for violating its policy on "nudity or sexual content", after his channel received two strikes against it – one for [[IMG 3207]] and another for [[Paid Video Requests#Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Shake my boobies|Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Shake my boobies]]. Chris was unaware of the length of his ban, which was two weeks per YouTube's policy at the time.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170130213259/https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802032?hl=en</ref>

On 26 July, he circumvented the ban by [[Paid Video Request Reminder|uploading to another account]].

What's curious about this is that technically, you're not allowed to create another YouTube account after your previous channel has been suspended, though it's possible that Chris made another Google account. Since he didn't re-upload any of his old stuff, he was able to continue having a YouTube account.

===Wikipedia===
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On 1 May 2009, Chris created an account on Wikipedia, hoping to show his side of his life story, one that wasn't "smeared" by trolls. It was deleted soon afterward for violating Wikipedia's policy on userpages and notability. When he attempted to contest this course of action, his user account was indefinitely blocked (although the blocking admin actually believed it to be a [[wikipedia:Sockpuppet (Internet)|sockpuppet]] of a troll and not the genuine article). As of now, the article name "Christian Weston Chandler" has been "salted" to prevent it from ever being recreated.

===Flipnote Hatena===
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After uploading and re-uploading numerous Flipnotes that violated the rules of the family-friendly Flipnote Hatena site, the moderators banned him permanently from uploading Flipnotes on the 2nd of [[July 2010]]. Chris has since evaded his ban. Flipnote Studio 3D was later released in [[February 2015]] after Flipnote Hatena shut down on the 31st of [[May 2013]].

===eBay (as a seller only)===
{{main|Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing}}

Chris has attempted to sell the [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing]] on [[eBay]] since 1 [[June 2014]]. Time and again, however, the listing for the picture was taken down, either as a result of troll involvement, the listing expiring (the asking price of thousands of dollars not helping in that respect), or in true Chris fashion, breaking the terms of services on eBay by asking for offers on Facebook. This would culminate in a 3-day ban from eBay on June 8th, 2014. Chris, being incapable of taking "no" for an answer, stated his intention to put the picture back up for sale again the minute the ban expired.

On 12 June, Chris reposted the listing, only for eBay to give him ''another'' ban. When his second ban expired, he reposted a heavily edited version of the posting, although still possibly violating several of eBay's terms again.

Around [[September 2014]], a guy named "Mr. Smith" decided to order one of Chris's mass-market [[medallion]]s, thinking that it would take 2 weeks to ship, not to ''create'' the medallion itself. After 2 weeks had passed by with the medallion still not arrived, he filed a case with eBay, thus freezing Chris's PayPal. This ''really'' got Chris's [[duck]] in a twist and led to a complicated series of events that later ended in eBay refunding Mr. Smith.

A third strike against Chris's tarnished eBay name eventually came around on [[June 2019]], when Chris was finally banned after numerous customer complaints about his failure to ship out orders.<ref>[[:File:Chrisebayblocked.png]]</ref>

===Sega Customer Service===
{{main|Sonic Boom Protests}}

GameStop is not the only place Chris is banned from for raging over ''Sonic Boom''. On 12 [[December 2014]], Chris sent Sega Customer Service an angry e-mail that raged over ''Sonic Boom'' and told them to recall ''anything'' with Sonic's blarms on it or else. Later in the day or the day after that, Sega banned his Customer Service account from the service.

===Facebook===
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On 3 [[July 2015]], Chris's Facebook account was taken down very briefly. While it is currently unknown why this occurred, it can likely be chalked up to Chris bending the rules of the website as per usual. These include screenshots of sexting, pictures of lizards mating, his omnipresent death threats to Sega, and linking to a Wikipedia article about sex acts with an NSFW image as a thumbnail. The last straw was when he uploaded a drawing called "Pink Lemonade", which featured Chris being showered with pink lemonade (or, as [[Kim Wilson]] interpreted it, period blood) from a pitcher pouring it through a [[china]]-shaped lemon, and bragging about how "It will be on Long enough for all to enjoy a glass." It's beyond surprising that Facebook was able to keep up with Chris's shenanigans for 4 years before taking it down for the 3rd time. His account was then put back up the same day, proving that Chris is the ultimate bullet dodger.

However, it seems he hasn't got off quite yet, as a recent picture he posted of his [[manboobs]] on 9 July was surprisingly taken down due to reports, which is the first time Chris has had a photo taken down on Facebook. He then reposted it, leading to his account getting deactivated the second time this month. It was then put back up, then closed yet again, and ''then'' put back up. It seems that this might be where it continues on, but with Facebook taking down a post that asked Chris's followers to fund him a prosthetic china in [[September 2015]], only time will tell.

On 29 [[November 2014]], the makers of the [[Keep Sonic Original]] page banned Chris from the group after a post was made containing death threats to Sega. Also, on 4 [[October 2015]], Chris got booted off the Amiibo Trade & Collectors page for hostile posts and for making Amiibos out of original characters.

On 15 [[November 2016]], Chris [[I Tweet AND Post Simultaneously|announced]] that Facebook had temporarily banned him from posting for a week due to his repeated death threats against [[Donald Trump]] on that platform.

===Lulu===
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In [[December 2015]], Chris got his account suspended from the literature hosting website [[Lulu]]. The website doesn't allow authors to publish fanfiction or stories based on copyrighted characters and/or properties from other creators. Given that Chris used the website to publish copies of ''Sonichu'', you can guess how this turned out. He later made an alternate account on Lulu in order to keep selling his comics. Even so, Chris decided to [[lie]] to his audience and claim that getting banned from Lulu was the cause of his "creative groove" being "killed".

On 9 February 2018, Chris reopened the account publicly, and it quickly got banned through the efforts of [[A-Logging|A-Logs]] three days later. However, he simply circumvented the ban by making another alt account, proven when he posted a poll on whether his fans would like a copy of [[Bryanfrogboy]]'s CWC Prequel comic with their comic order in March 2018.

Chris's account was later taken down again, possibly due to the incest leaks.

===Etsy===
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Chris's Etsy business seemed to be going pretty well until [[March 2016]], when he bought a new [[PS4]]. The distraction left him ignoring many of his customers' orders, often for months. People who bought video greetings from him would be told by Chris mid-video that he hoped the video wouldn't be late. In [[June 2016]], Chris's Etsy page vanished, and he later stated that [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation]]. It's likely that Etsy took notice after repeated complaints from his customers and banned him from selling.

===Social media profiles===
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In August 2017, Chris was blocked by four women he had been following on social media.

Doopie blocked him from her [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] and [[Patreon]] accounts after Chris repeatedly kept calling her darling, pledged to her Patreons while begging his fanbase for money, spammed her business e-mail with stories about his day while making clumsy attempts at befriending her, blocked her boyfriend on Twitter and continually refused to get it through his head that Doopie was not interested in being his friend. Weens also interfered by spamming her [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] and making fake pledges to her Patreon to view the Rosechu drawing she made for Chris's pledge reward.

Tabitha blocked him from [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] due to [[Weening|weens]] replying to his tweets to her, which resulted in her feed being overrun with spam.

Chris reacted to the blocks by creating [[NightStar2891]], a sockpuppet account. He then tweeted them a hand-written apology letter, calling them "dear" instead of "darling."

Yet again, Doopie informed him that she wasn't going to be his friend and blocked the sockpuppet.

Tabitha later mentioned that she didn't enact her block because of Chris specifically. Chris, observing her messages via NightStar2891, somehow decided that this gave him leeway to send her a 21-tweet message through that account, trying to befriend her. She blocked the sockpuppet as well.

LadyOfTheCosmo, a friend of Doopie's, blocked Chris on [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] after he sent her a tweet referring to her as "dear," then doubled down on using it after she called him out on it is inappropriate.

Nowacking blocked him around 26 August after he replied to her tweets about relationships. A swarm of weens spammed her account with accusations against Chris and told her to block him. She has not commented on her reason for the block.

===Wattpad===
Wattpad is a website for publishing stories. In [[December 2020]], one of the website's members, [[Opuscon789]], who had posted a fanfiction titled ''[[SNT Vs Sonichu]]'', blocked Chris from viewing his account over Chris's reaction to the story. Chris then evaded the block by creating another account in order to continue reading ''SNT Vs Sonichu'', despite hating the story.<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Discussing Opuscon789 and ProjectSNT]]</ref>

===Patreon===
Chris's [[Patreon]] was suspended on 2 [[August 2021]] following the [[Incest Call]] leak.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Patreon Banned Chris]]</ref>

===Tapas===
[[Tapas]] is a comic-hosting website, one which Chris himself used to host his Sonichu comics and linked from his YouTube page. Shortly after his arrest, his comics were blocked for a "violation of community guidelines," either due to the incest allegations or because of the graphic content of some of the issues.

==Discord Servers==
===Sonic World DX===
A [[Discord]] server for ''[[Sonic World]]'', a ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' fangame, which features the ability to use modded characters. Chris was first temporarily kicked from the server for stealing mods without permission.<ref>[[:File:Kicked from Sonic World DX Discord.png]]</ref> Despite being allowed to rejoin the server, Chris was permanently banned after confronting Cirrusfire over the takedown of [[Sonic World#Sonichu Mod (personally_updated)|''Sonichu Mod (personally updated)'']] on GameBanana.<ref>[[:File:SonicWorldDiscordBanned.png]]</ref>

===Official CWCki Server===
Chris was encouraged by [[Watchman]] [[Naught]] to join the [[Official CWCki Server]], which he did on 10 [[August 2020]]. He was banned four days later, with a mod stating this was because "The CWCki's goal is only to document Chris and not provide him a platform to push his agendas. It was never imagined that Chris will use this server to ramble about his fantasies." A separate server, [[cwc frens]], was made for Chris to do just that, but the setup was unfinished, and the link was removed once [[weens]] got a hold of it.

===The Knights of CWC===
A [[Discord]] server of members from the [[Watchmen]] group, [[The Knights of CWC]] was created in [[June 2021]]. On 1 [[August 2021]], following Chris's arrest for [[incest]], admin [[The WCT]] kicked Chris out of the server.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (August 2021)#Watching Chris's Arrest]]</ref>

==Family homes==
===[[14 Branchland Court]]===
That's right, he was banned from his own fucking house.

Following the revelation that Chris had been having [[Affair with Mother|a sexual relationship with his mother]], Greene County [[Jerkop|Police]] conducted a [[welfare check]] at 14 Branchland Court on 30 [[July 2021]]. The police issued an [[Emergency Protective Order]] against Chris, banning him from his house (which is owned by his mother) until 5 August. He was eventually arrested in Richmond on 1 August. In [[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]], Chris mentioned that he is legally prohibited from living in the same house as his mother. It seems likely, however, that he was allowed to return to his previous residence and move various items to [[Lynchburg and Big Island, VA#House|his new house]], or it was possible ban evasion.

===Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom's home===
In the wake of being kicked out of his home for the allegation of committing incest with his mother, Chris tried to make plans to stay with his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] in Richmond; however, they forbade him from doing so before he arrived,<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref> and even told the police that he was not to be allowed onto their property.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Discussing the incest fallout]]</ref>

==Jail facilities==
===Rec room===
Chris liked to practice shooting hoops in the [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] recreation room, mentioning it in a letter from 8 November 2021.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (RadioRabbit0)]]</ref> However, in a letter dated 30 November, Chris wrote that the room had since become restricted to him.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 30 November 2021 (Eels and the Egg-man)]]</ref> This may or may not have been caused by Chris [[Central_Virginia_Regional_Jail#Behavioral_issues|threatening suicide]] in an attempt to gain phone and internet privileges which backfired with additional restrictions. Either way, he did not specify whether this was a punishment.

==See also==
*[[Apology Letters]] (2014)
*[[Unban contracts]] (2016)
*[[Twitter blocks from TF2 Analysis crew]] (2019)
*[[Chris and negotiation]]
*[[Chris and anger]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]

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Chris and remorse

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{{Needs Updating|[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT]]|[[May 2025 social media posts#Saberspark's response to sexual assault allegations]]|[[Grounded Deep Response]]}}

{{Quote|Please, just forget about me in total; please, disband all online groups and individual hatreds against me; please, remove everything about me off of the Internet, your minds, and your hearts.|[[Chris]], after making a public apology on [[Facebook]].}}

{{Quote|He's malicious! He... he knows that doing these things are wrong, and he doesn't care! Because if he gets away with it, that's all that matters!|[[Null]], recounting a revelation that he had about Chris during their final interaction.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjmy3K7uT8</ref>}}

[[File: Apology.jpg|thumb|Chris's long awaited apology to [[Reldnahc]]]]

Every so often, one of [[Chris]]'s [[ShecameforCWC.jpg|less]] [[Twin Falling Towers|flattering]] deeds catches up with him, and he is forced to apologize. These apologies, like most of the other times Chris tries to come off as emotional, often feel very forced and insincere, leading many [[trolls]] to wonder if Chris is even capable of feeling '''remorse'''.

It's not out of the question. A common trait of [[autism]] is a lack of cognitive empathy, meaning it's likely that Chris has a difficult time trying to understand what other people feel. Time and time again he's shown himself unable to understand others' feelings of [[Chris and death|loss or sadness]]. He seems equally incapable of understanding how his actions could possibly hurt or anger others. Additionally, Chris is also shown to be incapable of sharing the emotional experiences of others, being affected by them, and being able to respond with an appropriate emotion due to his [[narcissism]]. This ultimately shows that Chris is incapable of understanding and feeling other people's emotional states.

When he is expected to show remorse, it often seems as though he is just going through the motions, making the absolute minimum effort to get whoever he has upset to stop pestering him, so he can go back to his oblivious existence playing [[PlayStation 3]].

==Concept of wrongdoing==

Developing an understanding of right and wrong is an important part of a child's development. Very young children don't take into consideration what is ethically the right or wrong thing to do. They base their actions on whether they are punished or rewarded before they eventually internalize a consistent value system and learn to police their own behavior. Chris seems to be stuck in the former, childlike state. If something makes him feel bad, or if experience tells him he'll get in trouble for doing something, it must be wrong. If it makes him feel good or looks like it could have potential rewards, it must be right. Other considerations, such as what his [[Chris and religion|supposed faith]] proscribes or how this will affect others, simply do not rank.

An excellent example would be how Chris managed to destroy his relationship with [[Megan Schroeder]]. Chris was at war with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], who were, among other things, calling him [[Homos|gay]]. In an attempt to disprove their allegations, Chris uploaded [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a certain image]] to the website, apparently under the belief that that sort of information overload would get them to shut up. When the denizens of ED assumed the image was of Crystal, Chris was quick to correct them. At no point did he even consider Megan's feelings. When she [[Megan emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG|called him out]], Chris didn't realize he had done anything wrong and assumed she was upset simply because she didn't watch enough [[Chris and sex|porn]].

{{Quote|I understand. You may or may not have had much exposure to sexual images as I've had, so the idea of a "hand job" (which was the act drawn there) as part of [[Chris and English|outtercourse]] (versus intercourse) was a surprise to you. I'm sorry.|Chris, [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|not getting it at all]].}}

As such, Chris isn't really capable of remorse or a sincere apology. The natural precursor to an apology is the internal realization that one has done something wrong, a realization that Chris's childish, self-centered mindset will not allow him to reach. In his mind, he's done something "wrong" only when the people around him react negatively. Furthermore, as a rule, he assumes that their reaction is just the result of some misunderstanding, reasoning that if he was just given the chance to explain what he was trying to accomplish, they would understand, and all would be forgiven.

Judging by [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|his plea for a hobby store's manager to "forgive and forget"]], it's very likely that Chris still operates on kindergartener-level moral philosophy in that he expects recipients of his apologies to immediately retract their disapproval and let him off the hook (which he might have experienced since it's a common scenario with smaller children and authority figures) despite being a grown adult, not realizing such a thing no longer applies to social situations after a certain point. Given his track record for [[Chris and his ego|selfishness]], [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles|issues with growing up]], and [[Sonic Boom Protests|resistance to change]], that would come as no surprise.

Moreover, Chris doesn't seem to understand that the purpose of an apology is essentially a promise not to repeat whichever negative behavior led to recompense in the first place, instead seemingly interpreting it as [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3#Summary|a magic phrase to clear his slate]] so he can continue his self-serving endeavors unimpeded.

==Motivation to apologize==
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|TL;DR: I'm sorry, now give me money.]]
As explained above, Chris's logic when it comes to matters of right and wrong is almost wholly reactionary. His rationale for apologizing follows the same pattern. He issues them only when made fully aware that he won't get what he wants unless he at least tries to appear genuinely remorseful.

Every apology Chris has ever made can be immediately connected to something Chris wants, and thinks he'll get if he says the magic words "I'm sorry". We almost never have to guess what that thing might be, he almost always mentions his desired goal in the same paragraph, sometimes even in the next sentence.
{{Quote|I wish to apologize to [[Michael Snyder]] for that mistake I made over nine months ago that got me kicked out of The GAMe PLACe... I miss my Friday nights over there… and also... y’all are the only place in town that has, uh, Eye of Judgment cards.|Chris, [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|apologizing in order to buy stuff]].}}
{{Quote|I apologize for the past unformalities[sic] and emotional outbursts in past communications... I ask for 25% of all money... you have and will have made from all [the [[audiobooks]]] you have put together and sold.|Chris, apologizing for sending [[Vivian Gee|Vivian]] a fucking [[Death threats|death threat]] ... [[Chris and reality|so that she'll pay him]].}}
[[File:154-ApologyLetter.jpg|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
Because Chris's apologies spring from this simplistic cause-and-effect mentality, things tend to get interesting when whoever he's issuing them to tells him that all is not well and that he is not forgiven. In [[I am Alive|one notable case]], he admitted to ungentlemanly conduct regarding his feud with [[Asperchu]]. It was a fairly obvious attempt to get [[CWCipedia#CWCipedia advertisements|certain ads removed from the CWCipedia]], but, notably, he announced his intention to kill off the character of [[Simonla Rosechu]], in accordance with [[Evan|her creator's]] wishes. He didn't act quickly enough, and CWCipedia was taken down from the web altogether. Although his anger was understandable, Chris revealed in [[9 February 2010|his next video]] that he had never intended to kill Simonla in the first place, and that the apology was not TRUE and HONEST. We had all suspected as much, but it's nice to get a confirmation once in a while. After CWCipedia returned, he did indeed kill Simonla, but only under pressure, and in the most contrived, dull, yet very lulzy way possible.

The one apology that arguably highlights Chris's insincerity the most is his in-comic apology to the Asperpedia Four, which takes place ''while [[Chris and hypocrisy#"I would have them ESS-acuted!" — Capital Punishment|condemning them to death]]''. The cognitive dissonance this creates would be overwhelming to any sane person, but [[Autism|for some reason]], Chris thought that this ludicrous non-apologetic apology was both okay and that the recipients would accept it as genuine. In that very same issue, in fact, Chris at one point sheds a tear after sealing up the populated [[4-cent garbage.com]] building and destroying it. You know, because faking remorse with crocodile tears ''totally'' justifies mass murder.

Chris's insincerity can also be seen in Chris's misadventures with [[The Wallflower]]. When the shit hit the fan and she cut off all ties with him, he made his usual [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|pathetic display of sorrow]], making it very clear in the process that he had only wanted her for [[sex]]. When his apology failed to work as planned, Chris became very angry and spiteful, and started [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|demanding that she apologize for hurting ''his'' feelings]].

Another came from his apology note on his [[Facebook]] discovered in [[October 2012]]. In it, he seemingly came to the realization that he had massively messed up, that about as many laughs had been gotten from him as possible and that he was sorry for it all happening. Surprisingly, it was a very well-written, unselfish apology that would seem somewhat convincing - right until he demanded that all instances of trolling and [[CWCki|websites]] [[CWCki Forums|dedicated]] [[/cwc/|to]] [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|him]] be stopped and removed, and there was absolutely no mention made of him making any attempt to straighten up. All he wanted was all the bad stuff about him removed so he can feel better about himself. Had he not included that, people might have actually taken him seriously, but, [[nudes|as]] [[28 October 2011|usual]], he had to fuck himself over.
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==Common traits of a CWC apology==

===Explanation===
One recurring element in Chris's admissions of guilt is an explanation of why he did whatever he's apologizing for. The way these speeches are worded often indicates that Chris believes that if we just understood his intentions, we would all agree with him and that nobody would be offended.

A famous example appears in the [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]] video. Chris explains that yes, he videotaped himself performing a selection of disturbing sex acts, but it was all for his sweetheart [[Ivy]], and this evidently renders his actions understandable and acceptable. Supposedly speaking to a young child who was deeply disturbed by his behavior, he tells her that his behavior was perfectly reasonable because he is both an adult and human. This combination of warped logic and an even more warped worldview was a crucial component of his breakthrough into mainstream infamy.

Another good example would be the time he [[Twin Falling Towers|used the worst terrorist attack in American history for an exceedingly bad joke]]. After learning that [[Kacey]] came from a military family, Chris did what was expected of him and made a [[Apology for 9/11 Joke|public apology]]. However, he was more concerned with continuing to slander [[Clyde Cash]] and assuring us he was a [[United States of America|good American]] (although he didn't know the words to his own national anthem)<ref>[[Mumble 7#summary|Mumble Chat 7]]</ref><ref>[[Red Letter CWC Certified Day]]</ref> than with actually expressing remorse and making an attempt at recompense.
[[Image:SnuffOutClyde.jpg|thumb|This looks like a good idea.]]
{{Quote|The joke was mainly directed to how WEAK Clyde Cash was only, I had no idea or intention of offending anyone, other than Clyde, on such a massive world-wide level.|[[Apology_for_9/11_Joke#Apology_image_text|Chris's written apology]].}}

Within the same video, he changed the photoshop he'd done of the World Trade Center towers into birthday candles. That he saw no problem in presenting an image of the two buildings on fire and repeatedly calling them weak while he asserted that he was a good American proves that he [[Slow-in-the-mind|completely missed the point]] of what he was supposed to be apologizing for. He was far more concerned with sullying Clyde's name than with any blowback or offense his comments might have caused.

In at least one case, though, Chris came up with a nonsensical reason related to [[CWCville|his fictional universe]] for something he did wrong [[Chris and reality|as though it would be easily understood by anyone else as truth]]. Specifically, when Chris attempted reparations with [[Mary Lee Walsh]], he explained that by slandering the "real" Mary Lee Walsh via comic villain counterpart, he allowed an evil witch to soil her reputation and that by retconning the "evil" Mary as Slaweel with her being portrayed getting arrested, he expected the "good/real" Mary would accept this so-called "apology" with only a happy ending as a result (not once admitting to violating campus regulations ''countless times'', let alone personally attacking her when she tried to hash things out with him in her office).

===Rationalization===

Chris is incredibly self-righteous. In his mind he is the only decent man left in the world, and everybody else is a stupid, evil [[JERKS|JERK]] whose sole mission in life is to cockblock him because he is [[Autism|special]], and furthermore out of jealousy for his [[Chris and his Ego|many]] [[Chris and reality|"successes"]] in life. This mindset gives Chris all the justification he needs to mistreat others, because as far as he's concerned they're all the bad guys, standing in the way of his [[Love Quest|heroic quest]].

This "Everything I do is right" mindset shows through when he is forced to talk about his prior transgressions. Chris might offer a half-assed apology, simply to conform to the wishes of whoever he's talking to, but it will often be accompanied by a long explanation as to why he ''had'' to do it.

{{Quote|I was wrong... I pretended to be him yet he was the liar. I'm the real deal... So on that one part I was wrong for the right reasons.|Chris, [[I Love You Kacey|almost admitting wrongdoing]].}}

He exhibited this self-righteous attitude many times in the [[CChanSonichuCWC|Liquid Chris]] saga: because he is the TRUE and HONEST Christian, this gave him the right to [[For Kacey from CWC|attempt to steal Liquid's girlfriend by]] [[Kacey Phone Call|pretending to be him]], and then [[SHE IS MINE NOW|gloat about it once he apparently achieved his aim]]. Once again, Chris saw no wrong in this. Since Liquid wronged him by trolling him in the first place, anything he did in response was entirely justified.

Though as it would later turn out, [[Chris and his ego|ego]] is not the only culprit behind Chris rationalizing deeds he should be apologetic for.

For a more recent example, Chris (in the throes of declining mental health) justified himself initiating his affair with Barb by arguing [[Jail Communications|in statements he wrote following his arrest]] that he did it as a form of divine intervention to "purify" his elderly mother of her sins. To pour salt on an open gash, he eventually flat out ''denied'' that his "Soul-Bonding" was ever sexual in nature ([[Incest Call|despite earlier admissions to sexual conduct with his mom existing]]), once again proving that Chris doesn't truly feel remorse for any wrongdoing he commits.

==="Maturing"===

{{quote| I Have Matured.|Chris's catchphrase}}

Ever since the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]], Chris had the tendency to claim that he has not only learned his lesson but that he has also "[[Adult Chronicles|matured]]". More than anything, Chris uses this as an excuse to avoid any kind of responsibility or backlash from trolls, who understandably view him as childish for many of his interests and actions.

==Retraction==

Chris, believing that his actions are always right, nearly always has to be pressured into making any form of apology at all. Most, if not all, of his apology messages, are motivated by the people he [[Fuck Quest|physically desires]] (be they obvious troll or otherwise) or [[Asperchu|desires to appease]], rather than the public outcry he causes, and certainly not by any true sense of guilt. His retraction of an apology is often redundant because nobody believed he was truly remorseful in the first place, and just as hollow as the apology itself, in that Chris is quite happy to lie to [[Chris and his Ego|save face]] or to gain [[china|something he wants]]. For instance, Chris '''finally''' [[02 March 2010|'sincerely' apologized to Alec and Mao]] for his actions towards them on 2 March 2010. However, only a month later, on 8 April, he was talking to [[Jackie_E-mails#Chris's only friends: trolls and his parents|Jackie]] and, in an attempt to gain sympathy from her, claimed that Alec was "trying to one-up [him] for months now".

When trolls hacked his PSN accounts, Chris made [[a near public apology]]. A blatant attempt to get his PSN account back, the apology was, of course, chock full of lies and insincerity.

One of his favorite ways to smite his [[Clyde Cash|invisible internet enemies]] and [[jerkop|real-life foes alike]] is to lay a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] upon them; thinking that he has powers akin to something more along the lines of Wicca, Voodoo, or Goku from [[Dragon Ball Z|DBZ]] than with the [[Chris and religion|Christianity]] he supposedly practices. He only issued the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction]] after [[Kacey|his latest e-girlfriend]] told him that he shouldn't have used the Curse-ye-ha-me-ha in the first place.

Considering that he [[Surfshack Tito (video)|quickly returned]] to his ways of cursing, [[Don't Mess With Me|threatening]], and [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|insulting]] his enemies, the sentiment obviously didn't stick.

==Shifting blame==

When Chris isn't trying to justify the trouble he causes, he usually resorts to blaming others. The most famous example is him blaming [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] for the end of his friendship with [[Megan]], even though it was because of a picture he himself thought up, drew, and then uploaded to his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|article]]. Chris had it literally screamed at him in [[Mumble 3]], but then, as now, he still doesn't know the true reason. The best anyone has ever been able to extract from Chris is that he came on too strong. While technically true, this is a vast understatement that fails to capture the massive amount of fault which lies with Chris (that is to say, all of it).

====The Wallflower====

Chris went to great lengths to keep the knowledge of [[The Wallflower]] away from the slanderous trolls of the Internet. However, he really wanted to credit her in one of his sycophantic Little Big Planet levels. Chris asked Wallflower if she thought it would be safe to credit Wallflower by her FF.net penname. Wallflower agreed as she was unable to find any obvious trails leading from her FF.net account to her Facebook account. Unfortunately for both of them, trolls still managed to find a link between the two accounts within 24 hours of Chris dropping her pen name. After she was linked to the site and promptly horrified by how much of her personal information had been compromised, she politely requested that the article be reworked with her privacy in mind. As much of the information in the original Wallflower article had very little to do with Chris, the request was deemed reasonable and the admins of the CWCki complied.

Frightened and disgusted by what she had found, [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|she broke off all contact with Chris]]. She also clarified to the CWCki admins that they had never dated, never had any kind of relationship beyond casual association, and before her introduction to the CWCki she really didn't know much about him at all. Chris, however, [[Chris and reality|not to be deterred]], proclaimed many times that they had [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|been on several dates]], and [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|"Shared DNA"]], along with enjoying a kiss and massage. Since this would have been Chris's "real" first kiss (aside from "[[Chloe]]", a lie), it was considered important by obsessive CWCki editors to see if he remembers it later (The Wallflower CWCipedia page article was written on April the 19th). However, [[Jackie e-mails Part 2|leaked e-mails from Jackie]] show that by the 10th of April, ''nine days before making this highly suspicious claim'', [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Jackie's_Questionaire_1|Chris had either momentarily forgotten that he had been kissed]], something that would have been a monumental occasion in his life, lied on his CWCipedia about being kissed, or lied to Jackie about ''not'' being kissed (though that is very unlikely). Either way, he still lied about the kiss, although it's ''possible'' he's basing his story on a gross exaggeration of the truth (the two sharing a drinking straw is the current troll favorite for this).

In the month following their "breakup", Chris would go on to blame The Wallflower for [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)#What had happened|having an internet presence at all]]. From Chris's perspective, the whole incident was Wallflower's fault for having a Facebook page for trolls to discover in the first place. Chris repeatedly insisted that ''Wallflower'' was the one who needed to apologize to him (as she had okayed the use of her screen name), despite the fact that putting her screen name in the level was his idea in the first place. More than a year after the debacle, Chris [[Calling Out|made it obvious]] that he believes that the person who should apologize to Wallflower is Surfshack Tito rather than himself.

====Forgetting====

Aside from directly shifting the blame by [[List of Chris's lies|lying]], Chris has been frequently known to "forget" important, critical details of his life, typically memories that either make him either look or feel bad. When [[Jackie E-mails|Jackie]] was flirting with him by e-mails and found out about the CWCki, she asked Chris about cheating on [[Ivy]] with [[Vanessa]], the full details of which are documented right [[Ivy|here]]. Chris, of course, claimed flat out that the whole thing was a troll deception and that Jackie shouldn't believe it. When Jackie informed Chris she found a video of him admitting it and confessing, Chris claimed he [[Jackie E-mails 2#Chris "forgot" he cheated on Ivy|"forgot" this "portion"]].

On [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 27th, 2008|October 27th in 2008]], Chris nervously announced he had found his one true sweetheart; [[Chloe]]. Many things immediately leapt out at the trolls as being lies, including his previous announcements on an [[Chris's Sonichu IRC Chloe Introduction|IRC chat]]. Due to Chris's unreliable short-term memory and inaction on the part of [[trolls]], after the 27 October video Chloe was never mentioned again in a video by Chris. A little more than a year later, in [[Mailbag 13]], rather than simply admit he was lying, Chris claimed "I currently have no recollection of a Chloe", even though she was supposedly the woman he had his first real kiss with.

In [[Mumble 6#On The Transgender Community|Mumble 6]], the troll army called out Chris on his statements regarding transgendered women. Chris claims that he forgot his previous statement, which may or may not be completely honest. In any event, Chris has discovered that (real or otherwise) a faulty memory is a socially acceptable way to dodge probing questions about one's past lies.

== Index of Chris's apologies ==

Below is an abridged list of Chris's various apologies for his many, many misdeeds. Small apologies may have been missed here and there, but these are the big ones.

* When Megan [[Megan Emails, 2008#Megan is scarred by ShecameforCWC.JPG|called Chris out on his reprehensible actions]] regarding the porn he drew of her, he first [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris apologizes for something, what could it be?|copy-pasted "Megan, I'm sorry for hurting you."]] fifteen times in an e-mail to her, then [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|went into detail about how a handjob works]], figuring that [[virgin with rage|sexual frustration]] and [[naive|ignorance]] were the root causes of her [[Chris and anger|anger]]. Yeah, about that...
* After Chris was banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he tried several times to get unbanned. The first was [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|a video where Chris apologies just so he can buy more junk]]. The [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|second]] was where he prepared a script, stashed a camera in his pocket, then walked into The Game Place to confront [[Michael Snyder]], claiming he had changed and apologizing for his actions. After Michael flatly refused to listen and called the cops, Chris berated him and hoped God would forgive him for being so "heartless and cruel". Mike responded "He probably will", and Chris stormed out, but not before calling him a Jew.
* After threatening [[Vivian]]'s life when she made better [[audiobooks]] than he did, Chris apologized to her... then made a demand for a cut of her "profits", the two sentences separated by only a single dot.
* Chris made an [[A near public apology|apology video]] after [[CWC Calls Out Three Naïve YouTubers|releasing a series of videos insulting various YouTubers.]] Aside from sounding half-assed and insincere about it, Chris's motivation for doing so was clear: his PSN account was being held hostage by the last YouTuber he had insulted.
* In [[I am Alive]], Chris apologizes for his ungentlemanly conduct in regard to Asperchu. This was a transparent attempt to get the [[homo]] ads removed from the [[CWCipedia]] and his behavior [[9 February 2010|subsequent]] to this apology proved he meant nothing he said in the video.
* In [[Sonichu 10]], Chris apologized to the Asperchu Four ''while simultaneously having them brutally executed'', including having one of them killed by a [[Sandy|toddler]].
* After [[April 16 Fetish Vids|filming himself performing sex acts for Ivy]], Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|apologized for his actions]], supposedly to a [[Ching Chong|young girl]] who had found the footage and was scarred by it. But he structured his apology to state that his behavior was, in fact, completely normal and that she shouldn't feel bad for watching it.
* In [[Matthew 5 27, CWC Confessions]], Chris apologized for cheating on [[Ivy]].
* In 2009, Chris apologized to [[Mary Lee Walsh]]... for slandering her via his fictionalized villainous counterpart using her name (not for his actively defiant and vindictive behavior towards her, mind you). The contradictory nature of the [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retcon]] aside, Chris drew up a picture depicting this very act of remorse and even went to the trouble of ''delivering a hand-framed copy to her office'', to which she responded with legal action. [[Mailbag_26#Mary_Lee_Walsh_trolls_IRL|Chris took this as well as you'd expect]].
* After [[Twin Falling Towers|mocking the worst act of terrorism]] in United States history, Chris made a subsequent [[Apology for 9/11 Joke|apology video]]...which featured the Twin Towers as candles on a birthday cake, complete with multiple gouts of flame flying from the top.
* When [[Kacey]] discovered Chris had pretended to be the [[Liquid Chris|other, better Chris]] in order to get a travel visa to [[China]], Chris apologized by way of his video [[I Love You Kacey]], where he claimed he "...was wrong for the right reasons."
* Chris '''finally''' [[02 March 2010|'sincerely' apologized to Alec and Mao]] for his actions towards them on the 2nd of March. However, only a month later on the 8th of April, he was talking to [[Jackie E-mails#Chris's only friends: trolls and his parents|Jackie]] and, in an attempt to gain sympathy from her, claimed that Alec was "trying to one-up [him] for months now".
*On 21 [[October 2012]], Chris posted a public [[Facebook]] status [[Facebook#Please forgive me!|apologizing]] for past misdeeds. He immediately asked that all online groups and "individual hatreds" be disbanded.
* On 17 [[December 2014]], [[Apology Letters‎|three letters]] were leaked on the CWCki Forums that Chris wrote to the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], [[Wal-Mart]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Naturally, in each one, he shoehorns in references to [[troll]]s causing [[stress]].
* On 29 [[October 2015]], Chris uploaded a [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.|YouTube video]] explaining his apology for his prior homophobia. However, barely 1 minute into the video, he stressed the importance of [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] being straight, showing a facet of his old self that hadn't truly disappeared completely.
* On 20 [[December 2020]], Chris was forced to apologize for being accused of stealing mods (which was backed by evidence). Chris, being controlled by Sonichu Prime denounces these claims yet "apologizes" anyway, owing to the issues being due to him still learning about modding and using Blender. He ended the tirade by telling the haters to be grateful and stop badmouthing him.
* On 24 [[September 2021]], in a [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|letter]] dated five days prior, Chris stated that he intended to enact 'repentance' for his crime of stealing 750 dollars from his aging mother's bank account - a crime he attempted to rationalize only moments before by citing his own poor finances and his fears arising from being made temporarily homeless, and for which he attempted to shift blame by claiming that Null had personally betrayed his trust and failed his 'destined test' by alerting others of his act of theft. Not a word was spared for [[Affair with Mother|certain other offenses]], just as recent and even more damning.

==Conclusion==

To Chris, remorse is nothing more than a formality that he must pantomime in order to get what he wants. Chris rarely, if at all, ever feels guilt for something he has said or done and expects either pity and sympathy or for those he hurt to forgive and forget. If you expect that he would ever be sincerely sorry for anything he does without an ulterior motive behind it, you are expecting way too much of him.

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Imaginary family

2025-12-26T02:02:46Z

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[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris with his "children", "grandchildren", a fictious [[Transformers|Transformer]], and his real-life parents.]]

Chris has numerous '''imaginary family members''' that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex|benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family. Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

[[file:chrisansestore.jpg|thumb| Native American Representation]]

The leader of the [[Cherokian Clan]] is a fictional ancestor of Chris, originating from Chris’s belief that he is part Cherokee, which was disproven in 2018 after Chris took a 23andme dna test.

The character is a Caucasian [[Chris and race|Aryan]] man wearing a Roman chest plate Halloween costume, showing how little Chris knew about the people he supposedly descended from. The character looks identical to Chris, who is meant to be his reincarnation.

He first makes an appearance in episode 7 of sonichu #2, introducing himself as Chris’s ancestor, tells him to kill [[Count Graduon]], and gives him his sonichu powers.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)}}

==Patti-Chan==
[[file:Patti-Chancard.jpg|thumb|Right|He couldn't let her rest now, did he?]]
{{Main|Patti-Chan}}

'''Patti Chandler''' (17 March [[1988]] - 27 [[June 2006]]) was [[Chris]]'s childhood dog, a {{w|Beagle}}-{{w|spitz}} mix who was put down in [[2006]], then brought back as a character in CWCville. Patti grew up with Chris and was the closest thing he had to a sibling, since his [[Cole Smithey| half brother]] wanted nothing to do with his family. In a phone call with [[Clyde Cash]], Chris compares the death of Clyde’s brother to the death of Patti, offending Clyde. Chris defended this by stating that Patti was like a sibling.

Chris brought Patti back to life in [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' 6]] as [[Patti-Chan]] (a character created by [[Megan Schroeder]] to help Chris [[Chris and coping|cope]] with the loss of his beloved pet), where she somehow gained the ability to walk, talk, and apply for [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]] in [[CWCville]].

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for [[Sonichu 0 HD|Sonichu #0 HD]], he made Sonichu call him "Mother" to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line, with Chris performing several [[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu|sexual]] [[Sonichu 13#Chris and Sonichu rape each other|acts]] on him due to the influence of the trolls, most notably, the [[Idea Guys]].

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)}}

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''Maybe.''' Although it would probably require a fair bit of luck and the kid is likely to come out being [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]].

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding [[Fiona|a willing female]]. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|once Chris began using HRT in sessions]], Chris destroyed what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at near 0%. While he is on the medication, we can't be quite sure if he is taking it regularly or in the right amounts.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world,<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Need my daughter]]</ref> but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up, and he was under distress due to the manipulation of the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced him that [[Cryzel Torture|they would only stop torturing his imaginary wife if he made the sex tape]]. That being said, some later [[Incest Texts|text-based details]] of ambiguous authenticity during [[Affair with Mother|Chris's "soul-bonding" with his mother]] in 2021 suggested that he used his penis to have sex with Barb. Although Barb was long since infertile at that point, Chris allegedly wore a condom anyway. It's probably for the better though, as the last thing we need in this world are Barb and Chris having zombie children.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth,<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> although he seemingly dropped the idea in the following years, wishing to remain with his genitals for some unknown reason. Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a male-to-female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]] and he prefers buying [[Transformers]] anyway.

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref> Amen.

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question, then you really don't know anything about Chris. Parenting is an enormous task that takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his [[Borb|own parents]]. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he can't be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years when they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example, can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|himself]]? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in lieu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal is expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris, Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have [[Praetor|a group of exploiters]] taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his livestream money and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

Also, not to put too fine of a point on it, Chris has [[Chris and anger|virtually no aptitude for self-control and anger management whatsoever]]. Even if you were to argue that past conflicts have proven he is way too passive to assault anyone physically (one lone case apiece of [[28 October 2011|vehicular assault]] and [[26 December 2014|use of pepper spray notwithstanding]]), he'll just as easily settle for verbal outbursts and exaggerated temper tantrums in general, which can be scarring to a child as well. As documented, Chris ''did'' have a tendency to lose his temper at the smallest provocation and direct it towards young kids during the time he went to [[The GAMe PLACe]] on weekends, which (among other bad habits) eventually led to [[Michael Snyder|the manager]] banning him permanently<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris's ban from the store]]</ref> (in fact, what prompted such was Chris getting into a heated verbal dispute with a young card gamer<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post]]</ref>). Top that off with Chris's insistence that [[Chris and ego|everything he does is doing the right thing]] (even when it's demonstrably unacceptable) and his [[Chris and remorse|near-inability to empathize with others nor acknowledge his errors]] (only attempting to apologize if he thinks he will get something he wants in exchange for doing so) and you have a recipe for what would be ''at best'' a strained relationship between Chris and his hypothetical child(ren), if not them escaping and preventing further contact with him altogether (as his half-brother [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] did with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother|mother and her child]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with one's own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful) [[Pedofork|because children are]] [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|not able to consent to sex]].

In short, if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected, abused, and/or [[Chris_and_death#Imaginary_friends|dead]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
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==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]

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Chris and introspection

2025-05-23T17:22:09Z

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{{Quote|I have been slowly but surely mentally, and emotionally, and spiritually- [flips over the Sonichu medallion] been maturing. [dramatic sigh]|Chris.<ref>[[Grounded Deep Response]]</ref>}}
'''Introspection''' involves the examination of one's own inner workings and past actions, typically to make more well-informed decisions in the future.<ref>{{w|Introspection}}</ref> Possibly as a result of his [[autism]], which affects how he perceives how his actions affects others, combined with his inflated ego, Chris has been noted for lacking the ability to do any sort of true reflection upon himself or to take accountability his actions. Chris then winds up making the same mistakes and blunders over and over and over again, and Christory is doomed to repeat itself.

Chris believes that he is a blameless, [[Chris and religion|holy]] creature that is [[Mary Poppins|practically perfect in every way]]. However, he sees plenty of flaws in the world around him that cause him [[stress]], never once thinking that his behavior might be the problem. He blames all of his problems on external factors like [[trolls]], [[homos]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracies]] or the [[JERKS|entire male population]]. In the past he's faulted the [[Jerkop|police]], [[Manajerks|store managers]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Jerkop|mall security guards]] for complications during his [[Love Quest]]. When Chris can't fault other people for his problems, he relies on autism and stress as fallback excuses.

==Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge==
Part of one's understanding of themselves is the awareness of their character, thoughts, and actions, and how they affect other people. Chris is noted for his utterly [[Chris and his ego|warped image of himself]], also being highly sensitive to how other people see him to the point where [[Affirmations List|he sometimes focuses on "positives" about himself]] and expects everyone around him to do the same.

Also, because he is accustomed to seeing himself as a helpless innocent victim of others' cruelty (for "reasons" that amount to imaginary desires on others' part to aggrieve him simply for the sake of it), he at best virtually or at worst flat out doesn't acknowledge that something he did caused the conflict in the first place. For example, when Chris refused to accept being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he ''barely'' admitted to doing something negative (i.e. [[100 2261.MOV|shouting from stress]] and [[Jackie E-mails#Chris hates authority|writing an insulting message on the side of a card box]]) that got himself shown the door while [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|other accounts]] revealed that Chris was openly hostile, bigoted and generally obnoxious to fellow patrons and card game players.

==Self-Hatred==
{{See also|Chris and remorse}}
Chris has a tendency to express regret towards past happenings in his life, to the point of seeing his past, "Classic" self in a very negative light. However, when (much less if) he tries expressing remorse, it comes across as hollow and insincere, especially given Chris obviously wants to appease whoever he has upset and/or gain something desired in return over trying to better himself and avoid repeating the same mistakes.

Furthermore, Chris tends to focus on or contrive reasons why something went wrong that differ from what happened and what he should ''actually'' be apologizing for, such as when Chris believed [[Megan Schroeder]] [[Megan emails, 2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex|misunderstood the sexual act he depicted]] (rather than being rightfully disgusted that she was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|featured in pornographic artwork without her consent]]) or that he owed [[Mary Lee Walsh]] an apology just for depicting her as a villain in his comics, without acknowledging that he both flouted campus rules ''and'' foolishly put her on the receiving end of aggression (in that order).

==Victim Complex==

==Self-Projection==
{{Main|Chris and hypocrisy}}

==Stance on Being Transgender==
Chris considers being [[transgender|trans]] as being one of the most introspective moments of his life.

==See Also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Chris and his ego]]
*[[Chris and mental healthcare]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]
*[[Meditation]]

{{References}}
{{Chris and}}

Chris and introspection

2025-05-21T17:06:40Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge */

{{Incomplete|Complete sections on Self-Awareness, Perseveration, and Self-Projection}}
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{{Quote|I have been slowly but surely mentally, and emotionally, and spiritually- [flips over the Sonichu medallion] been maturing. [dramatic sigh]|Chris.<ref>[[Grounded Deep Response]]</ref>}}
'''Introspection''' involves the examination of one's own inner workings and past actions, typically to make more well-informed decisions in the future.<ref>{{w|Introspection}}</ref> Possibly as a result of his [[autism]], which affects how he perceives how his actions affects others, combined with his inflated ego, Chris has been noted for lacking the ability to do any sort of true reflection upon himself or to take accountability his actions. Chris then winds up making the same mistakes and blunders over and over and over again, and Christory is doomed to repeat itself.

Chris believes that he is a blameless, [[Chris and religion|holy]] creature that is [[Mary Poppins|practically perfect in every way]]. However, he sees plenty of flaws in the world around him that cause him [[stress]], never once thinking that his behavior might be the problem. He blames all of his problems on external factors like [[trolls]], [[homos]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracies]] or the [[JERKS|entire male population]]. In the past he's faulted the [[Jerkop|police]], [[Manajerks|store managers]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Jerkop|mall security guards]] for complications during his [[Love Quest]]. When Chris can't fault other people for his problems, he relies on autism and stress as fallback excuses.

==Self-Awareness and Self-Knowledge==
Part of one's understanding of themselves is the awareness of their character, thoughts, and actions, and how they affect other people. Chris is noted for his utterly [[Chris and his ego|warped image of himself]], also being highly sensitive to how other people see him to the point where [[Affirmations List|he sometimes focuses on "positives" about himself]] and expects everyone around him to do the same.

Also, because he is accustomed to seeing himself as a helpless innocent victim of others' cruelty (for "reasons" that amount to imaginary desires on others' part to aggrieve him simply for the sake of it), he at best virtually or at worst flat out doesn't acknowledge that something he did caused the conflict in the first place. For example, when Chris refused to accept being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], he ''barely'' admitted to doing something negative (i.e. [[100 2261.MOV|shouting from stress]] and [[Jackie E-mails#Chris hates authority|writing an insulting message on the side of a card box]]) that got himself shown the door while [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|other accounts]] revealed that Chris was openly hostile, bigoted and generally obnoxious to fellow patrons and card game players.

==Perseveration==
{{See also|Chris and remorse}}
Chris has a tendency to express regret towards past happenings in his life, to the point of seeing his past, "Classic" self in a very negative light.

==Self-Projection==
{{Main|Chris and hypocrisy}}

==Stance on Being Transgender==
Chris considers being [[transgender|trans]] as being one of the most introspective moments of his life.

==See Also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[Chris and his ego]]
*[[Chris and mental healthcare]]
*[[Chris and remorse]]
*[[Meditation]]

{{References}}
{{Chris and}}

The GAMe PLACe

2025-05-17T14:46:33Z

FurryChristorian789: Thought this heading should be fixed, given Bob is also mentioned

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from August 2011 until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995.

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant racism with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and another patron were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
{{Main|Card games}}
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Niggos|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban ([[TheRcholic]], a YouTube account purporting to be Michael's, later claimed that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:

{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Borb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

During [[Bob Call 6|a phone conversation with]] [[ThePCAssassins]], Bob claimed that "people started hating" Chris because he was "so good at" the Pokémon TCG when in fact (as noted), Chris constantly lost card game matches to ''kids'' because of how poorly he put together his decks. It also goes without saying that "people started hating" Chris because of his ill-mannered behavior and not simply due to jealousy of skills he didn't actually have.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
The [[2013 Imgur Leak]] revealed [http://i.imgur.com/mBFcon9.png a post] that would elaborate more on this development. Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also called for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

{{Notes}}
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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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Chris and nutrition

2025-03-02T04:30:37Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Hydration and water consumption */

{{Needs Updating|[[November 2023 social media posts#Weight]]}}

{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Honest}}

[[File:ChrisMadeANaco.jpg|thumb|A soft shell taco topped with tortilla chips. Straight out of ''Kim Possible''.]]
Food is both a [[sex|biological imperative]] and a [[art|cultural medium]] for humans. The human body is meant to run on a wide variety of foodstuffs for a balanced diet, and cultures around the world have created a multitude of dishes using available ingredients, mostly from animal and plant sources. More recently, however, food has become industrialized, which makes food cheaper and tastier, to the love of our hero, [[Chris]]. Unfortunately, this industrial Western diet doesn't always carry the best '''nutrition'''.

==Cooking abilities==
{{Dated|Events after house fire}}
Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti (an incredibly basic dish, mind you) in a YouTube video, he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

In a [[August 2017]] letter written to [[Kelly Sheridan]], Chris claimed to have taken up basic cooking skills as a way to keep his mind more active.<ref>[[Chris's letter to Kelly Sheridan‎‎]]</ref>

In addition, [[Barb]] stopped cooking for Chris after he and [[Bob]] had turned down a spaghetti meal she had offered them<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref>, a turn-down he claimed to have "deeply apologized" for, making it even less likely that Chris eats anything that requires to be cooked, let alone anything that requires time and preparation to be made.

==Fast Food==

{{Main|List of restaurants}}

As a result of his minimal cooking skills, and due to how even the simplest of tasks [[Chris and work|tire him out]], Chris often prefers to eat out over making food by himself. He is an infamous fast food lover, eating at either [[McDonald's]], [[Burger King]] or some other fast food restaurant at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a [[Kiwi Farms]] user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

==Consumption of food==

[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris eats at multiple fast food restaurants, visiting McDonald's 10 times in 13 days, eating at other chains as well in the same documented period.]]
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily. Occasionally, he mixes them with [[Semen|a special ingredient]].]]

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general (as well as his tendency to lie).

During the [[Father Call]], Chris told [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. He claimed he stopped taking the drug in fall 2009, but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

When Chris admits to going to McDonald's regularly for his meals (including the time in the father call) he will often fall back on another lie that he only eats the salads provided and drink the lemonade. This is ironic as McDonald's salads were actually proven to contain ''more'' calories than an average Big Mac meal, due to the sauce that came with them. Chris also seems to be under the impression that lemonade is healthy because it has (or at least tastes vaguely like) lemons despite them being just as unhealthy as any other type of soda.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos under the false believe that they would improve his health. He liked videos such as "Lose Weight Super Fast!", "Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!", "Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment", and "[[Fart Song|Produce Odorless Farts Fast!]]". There is no sort of scientific and medical evidence that proves listening to binaural beats can do these things – the only real health effect is hearing loss if listened to at a high volume, and maybe a headache.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Quinn.27s missing out|Quinn's missing out!]]</ref> This marks one of the only times that Chris has admitted that he has [[Obesity]] issues.

In 2019, Chris showed us his idea of a "salad", mostly made with unhealthy ingredients like bacon bits and croutons.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan eats a .22salad.22]]</ref>

In 2020, Chris claimed to make breakfast omelettes/scrambled eggs with ghost pepper sauce or spinach.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

In October 2023, Chris posted photos of his snack bowl, consisting of fruits, a large chunk of dark chocolate, and a liberal amount of what appears to be whipped topping. Chris touted the vitamin benefits of the fruits among the snacks, but unfortunately for him, the nutritional benefit is outweighed by the excessive amount of sugars contained in the bowl.<ref>[[October 2023 social media posts#Chocolate and fruits]]</ref>

==Jail food==
Since the [[Jail Saga]] saw Chris incarcerated for quite a while, it's safe to assume he broke his long standing policy of [[28 October 2011|not eating prison food]] and entered the regular diet alongside all the other jail inmates. Chris stated that he liked the selection of food items the jail had for sale.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)]]</ref>

In an [[October 2021]] letter, Chris discussed the quality of the meals by writing that the "Food's mostly good and well; not perfect meatballs (Banquet Dinners have better meatballs), and chicken is often dry."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

As of 3 [[May 2022]] (following his three month stay at [[Western State Hospital]]), his weight noticeably dropped since he was unable to exploit the "begging for junk food money" loophole he once had access to, and his final mugshot taken upon his release on 27 [[March 2023]] showed him having shed even more pounds. After exiting incarceration, Chris has regained all of his lost weight, especially underneath his neck.

==Hydration and water consumption==
[[File:Water and Dasani.jpeg|150px|thumb|Chris's water bottle and a Dasani bottle.]]
[[File:Anti corona device.jpg|200px|thumb|What Chris actually believes manifests his "powers" in our world.]]

Before 2020, Chris rarely drank water and focused a lot more on [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]).<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772143]</ref> This was such that an entire page of the CWCki is [[My Coke Rewards|partly dedicated to just how much Coca-Cola he drank over the span of two years]].

The earliest known case of this was Chris [[A Week With Christian Chandler|documenting in one of his high school senior year projects]] that on the way to [[Card games#Books-A-Million|Books-A-Million]] to play a children's trading card game, he would stop at a gas station to "fill his sports bottle with some refreshing soda pop"<ref>A Week With Christian Chandler#Page 2</reF>. It's very possible he did this once every week and that it was a starting point for his health issues in the intervening years.

On many of the days between 6 March 2007 and 4 September 2009, Chris drank about 1.8 liters (over 3 pints) of Coke ''every day'' (assuming that none of it was drunk by his equally [[obese]] [[Borb|parents]]), so he could gain points on My Coke Rewards. This represents a grotesque 195 grams (nearly 7 ounces) of sugar per day from Coke alone, representing almost ''800'' calories (1/3 of his daily calorie intake). To put that in perspective, Chris drank enough Coke to fill ''10 oil barrels'' in order to get the amount of points he got. [[30 Push-Ups|Needless to say]], the effects are staggering. On record, he apparently consumed a whopping 120 cans of cola on 9 April 2008, 24 March 2009, and 15 August 2009; how this didn't send him into immediate diabetic shock is anybody's guess.

Before his arrest in [[July 2021]], Chris drank tons of water from a Glacee water bottle with an [[Magic stones|amethyst crystal]] inside. He believes that there are many health problems that drinking water in this fashion alone can cure, such as food poisoning. While this is not actually true, it's at least far healthier than drinking tons of soft drinks. Ever since the discovery of himself being Goddess CPU Blue Heart, he had used this bottle constantly as a way to charge up his "powers", in order to help further the merge into its future stages. The reason he went with the amethyst crystal is most likely the same reason that he uses his [[Amnyfest Ring]] in the comics as his main source of power. So, therefore, Chris used this bottle as a way to inadvertently makes his powers stronger.

As of 2023, Chris has developed an interest in the popular energy drink G Fuel, likely because the brand is known to constantly release flavors in partnership with various gaming/media franchises, an unsurprising example being that [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart (July)|he was seen looking at]] [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]-themed G Fuel cans [[Post-jail sightings|during a post-jail release shopping trip]]. Given the canned drink has an average of 300 mg of caffeine (equivalent to about 3 cups of coffee), it's likely Chris may soon slip back into erratic behavior patterns.

==Results of Chris's Diet==
{{Main|Chris and health}}

===Obesity===
{{Main|Obesity}}
[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him. It didn't work.]]

Chris has been overweight for all or nearly all of his adult life, and obese for a large portion of it.

===Dental hygiene===

Chris's [[Fangs|teeth]] have obviously suffered greatly during the decades of constant sugary abuse. Several videos which he exposes his teeth have revealed that his molars are extremely rotten and full of cavities while his frontal teeth are yellowish at best and an olive colour at worst. This combined with his infamous lack of hygienic prowess means that it's flat out a miracle that all his teeth haven't fallen out at this point.

===Behavioral issues===

Caffeine is a well known [[Anger|stimulant]] and can impair ones ability to [[Biological Clock|sleep]]. Chris's drinks all have plenty of caffeine in them, from coffee to [[Coca-Cola]]. Chris is undoubtedly addicted to both, and cups of coffee were spotted throughout the hallway in [[14 Branchland Court]] just before the coffee ''maker'' [[2014 house fire|burned the entire house down]].

===Fecal incontinence===
{{Main|DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS}}

It is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his fecal incontinence (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence.<ref>{{w|Fecal incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia.}}</ref> Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how long. Irritable bowel syndrome may be another reason for Chris's problems with controlling his bowels. The cause of IBS is not known, but two major triggers are [[stress]] and poor diets, with wheat, dairy, and carbonated drinks being known IBS triggers.<ref>Mayo Clinic: [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360016 Irritable bowel syndrome]</ref> Chris has given testament to fast-food not agreeing with him.<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Whopperito]]</ref> However, being raised on a poor diet, it's unlikely he'll stop eating junk anytime soon.

{{clear}}

==Denial of poor diet==

Chris often denies his diet is doing more harm to him than good. In the [[Father Call]], Chris constantly lies about his poor eating habits to an unimpressed Matthew Devoria. At one point, [[Autism|he went off on a tangent]] about how he stuffed vegetables and fruits down his throat; this was after Matt metaphorically compared [[Kacey|his daughter]]'s book reading to how much candy Chris probably consumes.

==References==
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The GAMe PLACe

2025-02-24T22:28:59Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Quote|I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville... BURNS TO THE GROUND! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris, being oddly prophetic in [[2014 house fire|two ways]]<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]</ref>}}
[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe when in business at 243B Ridge McIntire Rd, Charlottesville, VA.]]
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store.]]
[[Image:HNI_0020.JPG|thumb|The inside of the PLACe as of 27 October 2011.]]

'''The GAMe PLACe''' (Also known as simply '''The Place''', and later known as '''Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys''' from August 2011 until closure) was a [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]], [[video game]], [[Card games|card]], [[Toys|toy]] and [[Tomgirl|hobby]] shop in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] that originally opened in 1995.

From at least [[2002]]<ref group = "note">In his [[Chris's resume|resume]], Chris says that in June [[2002]] he became a Gym Leader’s Assistant in The GAMe PLACe, so he must have been a patron of the store by that time. It is not known whether or not he started frequenting the store at an earlier date.</ref> up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' [[TCGs]]. The shop hosted the {{w|Play! Pokémon|''Pokémon TCG'' League}}, where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).

After a long period of increasingly disruptive behavior, and repeated warnings from staff, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the [[manager]]s, [[Michael Snyder]], on 6 June 2008. After his permanent ban, Chris attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.

Following the judgement after the [[28 October 2011]] incident ([[#The_Charlottesville_Incident|see below]]), Chris was forced to keep away from Michael Snyder at all times, which by extension meant that he was permanently banned from the store by law after the judgement, up until its closure, which was reported on in [[June 2014]] (to date the second-longest ban-to-closure period, getting beaten out by [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] shutting its doors in late [[January 2025]]).

The former owner of the GAMe PLACe, Robert Lightburn, is a registered sex offender who was convicted for trying to arrange a liaison with a [[pedofork|policeman posing as a fourteen-year-old girl]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150911025700/http://www.readthehook.com/92338/cover-sidebar-risky-business-porn-loving-merchant-does-his-time The Hook article on Robert Lightburn's arrest.]</ref><ref>[[:File:Lightburn.jpg]]</ref> Chris would repeatedly invoke this fact in his tirades against the shop and even made the baseless accusation that ''Snyder'' was a pedophile as well and was perhaps [[Chris and sex#Incest|molesting his own daughter]].<ref>[[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher]]</ref>

As of [[2015]], the premises formerly occupied by the PLACe are now host to Gearharts, an artisan chocolate shop.

==People of Note==
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of 2008, although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.

The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the Internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].

Michael Snyder was one of the store's managers until he became the owner around October 2011. Chris often mistakenly referred to Snyder as the store's owner long before he actually purchased the store. Snyder would eventually become one of Chris's real-life enemies when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.<ref name=ban>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms' and Lucas' Q&A: Chris's ban from the store.]]</ref>

==Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe==
{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyone's hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|Mimms}}

[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]

In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more "childlike", for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.<ref name=homo>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Racism and Homophobia]]</ref> He also never failed to show up for ''Pokémon'' games in his old [[Chris and cosplaying|Ash Ketchum costume]].

The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual [[Chris and fashion|clown shirts]] and [[medallions|Sonichu medallions]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.

Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his blatant racism with his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.<ref name=mimms1>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms & Lucas Q&A: Initial Post]]</ref> Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:

{{quote|Chris yells at him, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" and TJ stands up like he's going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says "I mean your face-down monster..."|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

Likewise, Chris's [[homophobia]] occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A [[gay]] regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery, insults, and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for [[Obesity|obvious reasons]], Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).<ref name=homo/> Chris also assumed that [[Michael Snyder]] and another patron were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks – his [[Autism|literal mind]] took that as proof that they were an actual couple.<ref name=homo/>

==Chris the Card Gamer==
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[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]

{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris.<ref name=mimms2>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>}}

Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&A: Chris as a Customer]]</ref> and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' trading card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and [[Chris and his ego|proudly hollered "I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!"]]<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's ''Pokémon'' league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|résumé]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. "He wasn't actually a gym leader," says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.<ref name=mimms2/> This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting two weeks, which, according to Lucas, began on 4 April 2008.<ref name=ban/>

To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards in actual games.<ref name=mimms1/> Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|''Universal Fighting System'' card game]], often playing [[Gal pal|female characters]] such as [[Soul Calibur|Cassandra]] and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-Li]].

==The GAMe PLACe Photograph==
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because Mimms was trying to be covert.]]

In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.

Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.<ref>[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris E-mails: November 2007]]</ref> Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative. According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.

Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the Internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.<ref name=mimms2/>

Chris's "investigations" continued on and off for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in-between desperate apologies for [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the porn he drew of her]]), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at [[GameStop]] on 8 March.

{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being "Monkey", so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, "Well, that's something new you didn't know about 'be-4' about this 'Chan'." I noticed a look on his face like, "Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information." He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}

Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.

{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that e-mail.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]}}

==Chris Gets the Boot==
Chris's behavior offended the store's management and customers in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flatscreen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sing along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]] in public, and so on.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

Chris received his first ban from the store on April 4, 2008 (lasting two weeks) after he went into the store's back room unauthorized to grab a box of assorted items for Pokémon card game sessions. According to Mimms, Mike used this as a pretext when in fact, he was losing customers because Chris was constantly making an uncomfortable environment with his spoiled and obnoxious behavior.<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow-up]]</ref> Unfortunately, Chris did nothing to change his ways and things would only get worse for him later on.

The straw that broke the camel's back was an incident in the summer of [[2008]], where Chris got into a shouting match with a young [[Niggos|black]] kid. That particular incident triggered Chris's permanent ban from the store, though Mimms stated "Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point."<ref name=mimms1/> While Mimms' recollection was that the permanent ban took place in August, Chris's correspondence indicates that it must have occurred on the first Saturday of June.<ref group = "note">This is arrived at by a comparison of Chris's emails to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his GAMe PLACe friends during this summer.</ref>

Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[Jerkops]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and from that point onward every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<ref name=mimms1/>

In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own version of events. The so-called "Wii Incident", according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating "Michael Snyder Loves the "F" out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]." This, Chris claimed, was Mike's last straw and he booted him then.

According to the [[CWCipedia]] article for [https://web.archive.org/web/20160712220237/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan+Schroeder Megan Schroeder], Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his banning would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Megan_Schroeder</ref> Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, destruction of her dignity, anger issues, and overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wanted Chris to ever return to the store.

In February 2011, Chris mentioned in [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]] that he still feels bitter over his banning.

==Unbanning Attempts==
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]

Chris repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial 1-month ban. According to Lucas, this apology letter was met with peals of laughter from himself and others at the store.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>

In [[March 2009]], he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it.]] This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place (not to mention he brought up that the store was the only local place where he could buy cards for [[The Eye of Judgment|a TCG he was interested in]]). A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran [[Sonichu's Edge|as far away as he could]].

Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe, Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. Chris's conversations with Jackie reveal that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When he was once again recognized by a cashier who threatened to call the cops, Chris got angry and bolted. The next day, Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban (later noting on YouTube, that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y YouTube comment by Mike (TheRcholic).]</ref>) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off, called him a '''''JEW''''', and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived. No charges were pressed, likely because nobody was actually physically abused.

Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and "trolling" of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a "Terms of Use Violation". Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's antisemitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's not hard to see why it was wiped off the website.

Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,<ref name=ban/> and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned "Wii Incident". Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].

In [[October 2010]], Chris made [[100 2261.MOV|yet another request]] to be readmitted. Wearing an ancient ''Pokémon'' League T-shirt, he apologized for his behavior and said that the ban was his fault, blaming the whole thing on his infamous "[[Chris and stress|stress]]". He also claimed to have only "shouted a loud outburst" twice. Unsurprisingly, Mike wasn't moved.

With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it was clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe were almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] winning entry to [[China]] (without the use of [[Mia Hamm|commercial services]]).

==The Charlottesville Incident==
[[File:Sny.PNG|thumb|300px|Sonichu wishes Chris luck in his next murder attempt.]]

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder so he could print it out and use it as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away, but was accosted by Snyder, a woman he didn't recognize, and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:

{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}

The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually made him delete the pictures and sent him home with a warning. Chris did not tell his parents anything, and it would be [[Matthew Noble call|two months]] before they would learn about it.

==Crime Story==
[[File:GAMe_PLACe_Cyber-Bully_Hang-Out_Ad.png|thumb|300px|The coupon itself.]]
{{main|28 October 2011}}

On 28 October 2011, Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] got arrested and ended up facing multiple charges; hit-and-run (both), misdemeanor assault, trespassing (Chris), and attacking a law official (Barb). Going by the details of said charges, as well as photographs uploaded to [[CWCki|this very wiki]] by Chris himself, it can be assumed that the two tried to enter the store, Chris got in a fight with Michael, the two tried and failed to escape the parking lot before the police arrived, damaging something in the process, and when the cops showed up Barb tried to stop them from arresting Chris.

After the incident, Chris used a 10% off coupon found in the local newspaper to produce an anti-GAMe PLACe flyer - stating that it was a "cyber-bullies hang-out" and encouraging people to "stay far away". He also stated that the PLACe will go down by "[his] will, or by someone elses fire-on-a-stick and bombs" suggesting he has learned absolutely nothing from his chastening court experience.

===Google Maps Spamming===
A scathing review of the place on Google Maps written by one "[[Bob Chandler|Robert]]" was discovered by trolls. What's notable about this is that the review was written right around the time of the incident.

{{quote|Owner is very rude and a liar. He banned my autistic friend Chris from the store a couple years ago. I tried to talk it over with the owner who's name is Michael Snyder to see if I can get him to let my friend back to be a customer there again, [[Chris and English|we wouldn't]] give me a reason behind the ban and hung up on me. But that's only the beginning. Just recently he actually had the gall to charge my friend and his WIDOWED MOTHER with some bogus "hit and run" charges. The employees however are pretty nice and try to help you, but if my money is going to the profit of this utterly contemptible owner I would much rather take my business somewhere else."'''|"Robert", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Several clues made quite a few trolls suspicious that "Robert" was actually Chris. The mere fact that his "friend" has to point out that he's autistic from the get-go raises a red flag, and the message is pretty much full of biased contempt towards [[Michael Snyder]], and pretty much sets the tone for his anti-GAMe PLACe campaign above. Note also that the words "WIDOWED MOTHER" is in all caps, something Chris [[Chris and writing|routinely does in his writing]] when [[Chris and anger|angry]].

A second review later showed up by someone who identified themselves as "Ben McMullan." The review read:

{{quote|Owner is a registered sex offender. He has also historically denied service to autistic patrons."'''|"Ben McMullan", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=17883942249907557493&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

It is unknown if this review is by Chris or by a [[troll]], but, judging Ben McMullan's other reviews, which include businesses in Georgia and North Carolina (places Chris has never been), it would appear to be the latter.

Another review from "Alexander Deck" also appeared, and looks very similar to "Robert's" review:
{{quote|"This HORRIBLE place kicked my friend Chris out, and for that I can NEVER FORGIVE THEM."'''|"Alexander Deck", on the GAMe PLACe.<ref>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=117832957550460545229&q=google+maps+charlottesville+games+and+hobbies&hl=en</ref>}}

Another review from "Henry Bradston" is possibly by Chris:
{{Quote|This store has a wonderful and expansive selection of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards, which is what attracted me to the store in the first place. Then my cousin mentioned he was banned from the store a few years ago, and that made me realize how nasty the employees are. Upon a visit I took to the "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" last month, I had the pleasure of meeting who I think was the supervisor, or possibly the owner(...?) His name was Mike and he seemed like a very nice man. After only browsing booster packs for five minutes, I saw him start screaming at another patron. I don't recall what the argument was about, but it only lasted a couple minutes. The little kid (who couldn't have been older than ten) ran out of the store, crying. This incident alone coupled with the fact my cousin (who already has [[Autism|troubles]] of his own) was banned for what he says was "no good reason" has changed my perception of the store entirely. I would advise anyone who is interested in comics, TCGs, or toy collecting to NOT visit this store. And if I could say something to that fat sixty-something year old, I'd tell him to change his business tactics of scaring kids away cause it will only hurt business. ALSO, it turns out the OWNER is a registered sex offender.|"Henry Bradston"<ref>[https://plus.google.com/100281781145752145855/reviews "Herny Bradston's" Review]</ref>}}

==Barb and the GAMe PLACe==
A [[Matthew Noble call|phone conversation]] recorded in early [[August 2010]] revealed many more details about the odd attitude that Bob and Barb Chandler held and continue to hold towards The GAMe PLACe. During the discussion, they show a total ignorance of how Chris behaved at the store and why he was banned. Barb shows signs of still holding a grudge over her visit to the store after Chris's final ban, while Bob suggests that he believed that the trolling of Chris somehow originates from a conspiracy at the store.

{{quote|Mike and Megan are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people — kids there that I think were gay — to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob Chandler, on the GAMe PLACe conspiracy.}}

Bob does not explain why Mike, Megan, and the "gay kids" (likely a reference to Eric and Tito<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>) would create this grand conspiracy against Chris, but he goes as far as to accuse them of fraudulently obtaining access to Chris's credit cards and bank accounts. [[Best Buy|Data]] uncovered a month later shows that Chris wasted tons of money on PlayStation Network cards and games he'll never play, resulting in further debt and an excuse to blame Snyder and the trolls for stealing his credit cards.

==Chris Accepts the GAMe PLACe?==
On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It never fell through, but it could've been a ''geinus'' plan to lull Mike into a false sense of security.

==Nope, He Still Wants It Scalded==
The [[2013 Imgur Leak]] revealed [http://i.imgur.com/mBFcon9.png a post] that would elaborate more on this development. Amusingly, Chris believed that everyone at the PLace masterminded the trolling that continues to haunt him to this day, particularly Megan and Mike, who he deemed as the "Prime Trolls". He also called for the PLace itself to be destroyed, if only for the reason of ousting a manchild that acted like a jackass in the store.

Either way, given the consequences of his actions and his utter refusal to let go of childish things, it seems very unlikely that Chris will forgive or forget the GAMe PLACe. It does, however, raise a valid question concerning Chris: What will he do once his probation ends?

Proving once and for all that Chris absolutely refuses to let go of his ban from the GAMe PLACe, on 4 October 2013, Chris posted a very angry [[Facebook]] post where he shifts all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual [[JERKS|jerk]]", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan [[Chris and hypocrisy|until ''she'' apologizes for what she's done]].

==The Saga Ends==
[[File:Retail Space For Rent.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Poster indicating the former location of the GAMe PLACe is now up for rent.]]
[[File:GamePlace2015A.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The interior of the vacant store in April 2015.]]

In June 2014, information was leaked on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that seemed to indicate that the GAMe PLACe had shut down for good. The historical location of the store was empty, and a poster on the store's glass front indicated that the location was up for rent. It is unknown what time frame exactly when the PLACe closed, but judging from the store's website going offline in-between December 2013 and January 2014, it could have been from around that time. According to Rail Tales, a railroad-focused hobby shop that used to share space with the PLACe before splitting and moving to its own standalone venue, the reason for its closure was due to financial issues. Even after the shut down of the store, Chris continues to hold a grudge against Mike. It is also unknown if the business simply moved away and changed its name to avoid being detected by both Chris and [[weens]] alike.

===Today===
In November 2015, Gearharts, a local fine chocolate business, moved to and opened in the former GAMe PLACe site, where it has remained operational to date. Chris mentioned the new store on the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], saying that he does not feel it is as good as the PLACe and is not interested in entering; assuming, of course, that the new tenants allow him back in.

Also in 2015, Chris began frequenting a similar card and hobby store in Charlottesville, [[The End Games]]. However, proving he can't learn from his mistakes, Chris ended up being banned from that store too, for similar reasons to his GAMe PLACe ban no less.

In September 2019, two years shy of a decade after Chris's ban, rumors began circulating online that a new PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington D.C., once again led by Snyder. Chris has yet to comment on this potential revival of his old haunt, but one of his orbiters, the malicious [[Jacob Sockness]], chose to harass Snyder in response to this, tracking down a guestbook for the funeral to the latter's recently-deceased father to torment him over banning Chris. Needless to say, nobody was impressed with this new low of [[Weening|weenery]].

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==See also==
*[[GameStop]] - another game store Chris was banned from
*[[The End Games]] - another card and hobby store Chris was banned from

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Charlottesville Fashion Square

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FurryChristorian789:

[[Image:FashionSquareMallExternal.jpg|thumb|200px|External view of Charlottesville Fashion Square, [[January 2010]].]]
[[File:GardenSquareMall2015.jpg|thumb|200px|The mall entrance, [[April 2015]].]]
[[Image:Fashionsquareretail399 thumb.jpg|thumb|200px|Image from inside the mall.]]
[[Image:TheFaSquareRegion.jpg|thumb|200px|The mall's main rotunda, [[January 2018]].]]
[[File:FashionSquareJan2023.jpeg|thumb|200px|The mall on life support in late [[January 2023]]. Notice the wreath despite the holiday season being over for nearly a month at the time of capture.]]

'''Charlottesville [[Chris and fashion|Fashion]] Square''' was a shopping [[mall]] and one of the original venues for [[Chris]]'s [[Love Quest]] exploits. Like all of his "[[Attraction Location]]s", it didn't do much for him, as his behavior led to several run-ins with its management and security personnel, ultimately resulting in a [[List of places that have banned Chris|ban]] from the mall. Owing to the mall's popularity with Chris as a social and Attraction Location, it has since became a place of hallowed ground among [[trolls]], [[weens]] and [[CWCki|Christorians]] alike. It closed in [[2025]], exceeding [[The GAMe PLACe]] in terms of Chris' longest ban-to-closure period (just less than thirteen years compared to six years from The GAMe PLACe).

==Chris and the Fashion Square==
Chris was first introduced to [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] at the Fashion Square Sears in "mid to late [[1991]]", playing a demo version of the original ''Sonic the Hedghehog'' Sega Genesis game there.<ref>[[Cwclight#First Sonic the Hedgehog drawing by JCWCSP]]</ref>

It was in this mall where Chris met [[Anna McLerran|Anna]] and "[[The Tale of the Crazy Pacer]]" got its start.

It was also where he had his heart smashed down to 15% by [[Hanna]], and presumably where he (accompanied by [[Bob Chandler|his father]]) went on his "date" with [[Emily]], who was later rescued by [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]. It's safe to say that, at one point, a large portion of Chris's time spent outside the house was at this mall.

Due to the numerous misadventures he has had there, this place holds a significant role in Christory – and has since become something of a pilgrimage location for the CWC community at large. Be sure to say "hi" to [[ScotPalazzo|the manager]] should you ever visit!

==Chris vs. Fashion Square==
Chris has gotten himself into trouble at Fashion Square on a number of occasions over the years.

On 5 August [[2004]], according to [[CWC's Diary]], Chris's attempts to fish for a girlfriend with a [[Red String of Fate]] were cut short by a [[jerkop]] who destroyed that particular Love Quest accessory. A month later, on 6 September, he had another run-in with a security guard who was apparently treated to a rendition of Chris's "Lonesome Virgin story".

11 September 2004 saw Chris's first partial ban from the mall, forbidding him from returning without a parent to accompany him. His diary doesn't explain exactly why he was banned, but [[Sub-Episode 1|Sub-Episode #1]] dramatizes the day's events. Reading between the lines of the comic book version, Chris was loitering and soliciting with his [[Attraction Sign]], became belligerent with security, and was arrested and removed from the mall.

Chris was apparently able to return to the mall unaccompanied by the next spring. On 29 March 2005, the infamous date with Hanna took place, after which Chris emitted an anguished "NOOOOOOOO" that led him to being banned from the mall once again.<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat#ban|Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie e-mails part 2#ban|Jackie E-mails - Part II]]</ref> [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]] indicates that the ban (which again prevented Chris from going to the mall without a parent) was still in effect towards the end of 2008.

According to the reports of a field agent, Chris was seen sperging at the mall accompanied by his parents in the summer of 2010. Subsequently, on 31 August 2010, he was spotted (and filmed) hanging out at the mall alone. This suggests that either the bans have expired, or Chris has managed to [[Flipnote Hatena|evade yet another ban]].

In early 2012, Chris's leaked [[Facebook statuses]] revealed that he had returned to loitering at the mall on a regular basis. His "normal plan" at the mall, according to the leaks, is to "sit, hang and wait for a Ms. Right".

On 4 February, he managed to get himself in trouble again, by leaving flyers decrying [[Michael Snyder]] around the mall. A security guard found them and attempted to speak to Chris about them. Chris then fled the mall and drove away.

On 31 March, he managed to get himself in trouble for a second time this year, this time by yelling on his phone towards his trolls. Security guards came to confront Chris, but he ended up fleeing the mall once more.

On 28 April, Chris released a [[April 2012 Facebook posts#Maniacal Laughter from Who now? Oh, wait, It Is ME! >8D|Facebook message]] stating that, on the 25th of April, he had received the ban-hammer for getting angry in the mall when he answered some calls from the trolls.

On 15 [[August 2014]], Chris wrote an [[Apology Letters‎|apology letter]] in an attempt to get his ban lifted. The letter has Chris blaming [[troll]]s and [[stress]] for his misdeeds, and asking the manager to allow him and [[Catherine]] to shop there.

On [[26 December 2014]], Chris attempted to evade his ban from the [[GameStop]] there and ([[Chris and fashion|dressed like a clown]]) tried to vandalize the store's ''Sonic Boom'' display. When he failed and staff made a move to call security, Chris left, but not before macing an employee. With the police called in, Chris somehow evaded arrest at the mall. Reports from a police radio mention that Chris was still banned from the mall at that point.

On 20 [[March 2018]], Chris again [[March 2018 trespass charge|trespassed at the mall]] and was charged. As a result he was sentenced to the [[Therapeutic Docket]], resulting in the charge ultimately being dropped.

On 20 [[September 2020]], Chris yet again went to the mall, but was not caught. He later remarked about the decline of the mall, noting that more than half of its stores were still open but that the JCPenney was closing. He also called it a "gyp" that the GameStop in Forest Lakes had closed yet the one in the mall - and site of his macing incident - remained open.<ref>[[The Place chats (September 2020)#Downtown Mall and Fashion Square]]</ref>

==Closure==
Malls have been declining as a whole since the [[2010s]] due to the increasing popularity of online shopping websites like Amazon and [[eBay]], and the effects of the [[COVID-19]] pandemic have certainly not helped matters. Charlottesville Fashion Square is no exception; throughout the late 2010s, several stores in the mall closed due to dwindling customers, while some of the mall's biggest tenants like Sears went bankrupt, leaving the mall with big chunks of unleased space. While it still operates, with 16 stores, restaurants and booths still open, it is a shell of its former self, with the only two "anchor locations" left being two Belk stores.

The mall was at risk of closure in [[February 2020]], having defaulted on $45.2 million of loans.<ref>https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/fashion-square-mall-facing-imminent-default-analysts-say/article_3ac06a61-626f-5f64-bbaa-4953c3c815a0.html</ref> In response to this news, Chris wrote on [[Twitter]], "Well, this is most disappointing. Very Much a LEGEND, in association with myself and my history: Charlottesville’s own #FashionSquareMall is falling on hard times and may become lost. I feel mildly distressed from this event."<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

On 13 [[June 2021]], Washington Prime Group, the owners of Charlottesville Fashion Square, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, citing the COVID-19 pandemic as the main reason.<ref>https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/14/business/washington-prime-group-mall-bankruptcy/index.html</ref> The mall was later auctioned to a local lending company a few days later. <ref>https://dailyprogress.com/business/local/watch-now-fashion-square-mall-auctioned-to-lender-for-20-2-million/article_15ea6df2-e67b-11eb-9274-0bff086e95e0.html</ref>

In [[September 2022]], The Home Depot purchased a large chunk of the mall, save for the Belk woman's store and JCPenney. Two years later, they would announce their plans to demolish the former Sears space to begin construction on a new Home Depot store, construction of which began in [[September 2024]] and is set to open in [[July 2025]]. The mall's fate was sealed in [[January 2025]] when its remaining tenants had their leases terminated.<ref>https://www.29news.com/2025/01/24/leases-terminated-store-owners-fashion-square-mall/</ref> The Fashion Square closed its doors for the final time on the 31st of January.<ref>https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/business/the-fall-of-fashion-square/article_7894557e-e403-11ef-9a47-17a1649a4818.html</ref>

==Comic references==
===[[Sub-Episode 1|Sub-Episode #1]]: "Jerkop-tastropie"===
Dramatization of Chris getting busted by [[jerkop|mall security]] for loitering.

===[[Sub-Episode 2|Sub-Episode #2]]: "The Rise & Fall of My Heart"===
Dramatization of a [[Hanna|girl who works at a Starbucks]] trolling Chris by taking him out on a date.

==See also==
* [[CWCville Shopping Center]]
* [[March 2018 trespass charge]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20130307232438/http://www.simon.com/mall/charlottesville-fashion-square Archive of old website from March 2013]
*[https://charlottesvillefashion.com New website]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_Fashion_Square Wikipedia Article]

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Chris and animals

2024-12-23T17:31:02Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Incomplete|This page still needs information about Chris's other pets, Chris's relationship with fictional animals such as Sonic the Hedgehog and The American Rabbit. A section on Chris's views on animal ethics would also be appropriate.}}

'''Animals''' are defined as eukaryotic life forms of the kingdom Animalia<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal</ref>. In common speech, humans are not considered animals even though they do meet this definition. Non-human animals can be broadly divided into domesticated animals which are kept and raised by humans, and wild animals which exist independently from humans. For better or worse, Chris has owned countless animals such as dogs and cats throughout his life.

==Notable Animals in Chris's Life==

===[[Patti|Patti Chandler]]===
[[Image:0050-Patti5.jpg|thumb|Patti, blissfully unaware of who her owner really is]]

Patti was a dog of mixed breed, being part {{w|beagle}} and part {{w|spitz}} and member of the Chandler household from [[1988]] to [[2006] named for Saint Patrick's Day on which she was born. Chris was apparently very fond of Patti, claiming that he much time with her when she was alive, citing her death as a source of trauma comparable to [[Father Call|losing a family member in 9/11]], and making her the very first being to live on in [[C-197]] after passing away in the real world. Despite this, when she was put down, Chris was not too distressed to draw [[Sonichu (character)| Sonichu]] on the paper for Patti's euthanasia.

In Chris's fantasy universe, Patti joined Chris's [[Electric-Hedgehogs]] and other "heroes" as [[Patti-Chan]], and would appear in several of the [[Sonichu (comic)| Sonichu comics]].

Patti lived in a doghouse that weighed approximately [[Math| 5 to 10 tons]], according to Chris.

===[[Clover and Snoopy]]===
Clover was Chris's dog from [[March 2012]] up until he was arrested in [[August 2021]] and is confirmed to be alive under the care of [[Barb]] as of [[March 2024]]. Snoopy was her brother and Barb's dog until his death in [[July 2021]]. Ironically, Chris lost custody of Clover on the 9th anniversary of the dogs' being revealed to the public in a photograph he submitted into a local radio contest that was later uploaded to the [[CWCki Forums]]. Both beagles, they were named for a ''[[My Little Pony]] Tales'' character and the famous ''[[Peanuts]]'' star respectively.

Unlike Patti, the beagles lived inside the Chandler house alongside Barb's hoard. Chris recounted that once, he was playing with the dogs on a "mountain of clothes" that Snoopy fell from, permanently damaging his leg in the process.

==Fictional Animals in Chris's Life==

===[[The Adventures of The American Rabbit|The American Rabbit]]===
The American Rabbit (actually named Robert Rabbit) is the lagomorph protagonist of the obscure 1986 animated movie ''{{W|The Adventures of the American Rabbit}}'', which Chris was unironically a fan of during his childhood, even once declaring the filmmakers "REALLY SHOULD HAVE MADE A TV SERIES of him"<ref>Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992</ref>.

He was also the first fictional character that Chris claimed to have looked up to as a hero, and evidently seems to have influenced Chris (or was at least ''one'' of his first influences, [[Chris and television|given his TV diet at the time]]) to profess beliefs in being [[True and Honest]] ([[Chris and hypocrisy|whilst otherwise failing to practice what he preaches in real life]]) as well as triumphing over anyone he would perceive to be villainous just for going against his ideals. This position as role model would eventually be passed on to...

===[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]===
[[Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|thumb|Chris, side-by-side with the (fictional) animal he cared about most]]
Sonic the Hedgehog is the lead character of a multimedia franchise created by [[Sega]] that has been ongoing since his first outing on the {{W|Sega Genesis}} in 1991. Chris was introduced to him through playing a demo of this particular game in a Sega Genesis display at the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]'s {{W|Sears}} store that year<ref>Cwclight#First_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_drawing_by_JCWCSP</ref> but what would truly solidify Sonic's place in his heart was his victory in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] in 1993.

Sonic went on to become arguably one of the biggest fixated interests Chris ever had in his life (next to ''[[Pokémon]]''), culminating in the creation of Sonichu, both the [[Sonichu (character)|character]] ''and'' [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]] for which he has since attained infamy as an online celebrity of sorts.

Chris has also expressed more loyalty to this ''fictional character'' than anyone should, admitting to [[Jackie]] that he used to be distraught whenever bullies claimed Sonic was dead<ref>Jackie Chat 9</ref> and even [[Sonic Boom Protests|being infuriated by a non-canons spinoff altering Sonic's arm color]] to the point of vandalism in stores and narrowly avoiding imprisonment for [[26 December 2014|assaulting a game store's assistant manager]] in the process of attempting to do so.

==References==
<references/>

Sweetheart

2024-11-11T21:38:43Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart? */

{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] [[Mia Hamm|(which he ultimately accomplished without a sweetheart)]], and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, a trip to a hooker (two in fact), and [[Affair with Mother|having sex with his mother]]. Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself frivolously applied, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Chris's [[Gal-Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts because they are known to Chris and don't appear to hate him.

Chris's ideal vision for a sweetheart is more or less one that allowed him to continue living as a "self-employed" stay-at-home husband/father/son, since he didn't make a significant effort to support a prospective family at any point during his [[Love Quest]] aside from briefly applying for a minimum-wage job for [[Kacey]]. Based on [[Chris and work|his frustration at the idea of doing any work whatsoever]], it's likely that he wanted someone to effectively mother him rather than an equal partner, who he could also have sex with and impregnate with [[Crystal Weston Chandler|a kid]] [[Reginald Chandler|or two]]. Chris also seemed to be under the impression that they'd live with his parents [[14 Branchland Court|and their hoard]], who he'd presumably leave his sweetheart-to-be to raise his kids with.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Chris spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Two's company snapshots|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [Chris's age then] Years Old (though not conclusive, as Barb was 79 years old back then)
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Chris established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==
[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that a special someone is waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea. (However, an argument could be made that [[Jacob Sockness]] qualifies.)

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a 42 year old man who plays with children's toys and video games all day and lived with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] up until age 39 (when authorities separated them due to him [[Affair with Mother|committing incest with her]]). Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are completely foreign concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid shit he doesn't need]]. Even when this habit [[Financhu Crisis|sank the Chandler finances into an all-time low]], he refused to take responsibility; he instead [[Please, Donate|resorted]] [[Donation Request|to]] [[Donations, Please, plus Live Game Stream tonight.|e]]-[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|begging]] [[Donations_Requested,_Please|a]] [[Donations_Required,_Serious._Please_help|very]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_1|large]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_2|number]] [[Announcement_06292016|of]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|times]] like a child to make up for his failure to put the simplest of money aside for [[McDonald's|food]], bills and medicine. On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. While stay-at-home husbands/dads are no rarity these days, they are not without responsibilities. He didn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd have dumped this responsibility on his elderly mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has no idea how to behave around women.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that bother women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. Chris has many childish mannerisms and social hindrances that are repugnant to women (and men alike); in the infamous [[For My Sweetest Ivy|video for Ivy]], these things are in abundance. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream "manchild", and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref>

'''3) Chris is not trustworthy.''' Chris is known to [[List of Chris's lies|lie a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can grievously damage a woman's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On his date with [[Catherine]], he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with [[Megan]] shortly before he ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, after specifically being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "[[Cousin Al]]" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. Also, much as Chris would profess his love for anyone he considered his sweetheart and that he would do anything for them, his interactions with [[trolls]] (especially those [[PandaHalo|pretending]] [[BlueSpike|to]] [[Kacey|be]] [[Jackie|girlfriends]]) have unwittingly revealed otherwise. For example, when [[Julie]] was supposedly in mortal danger, he was offered multiple opportunities to rescue her and he did barely ''anything'' to keep his end of the deals, even when he was audibly concerned about his [[PSN]] account being held for ransom. Needless to say, if Chris fails to keep his promises with imaginary soulmates, he wouldn't do any better with an actual sweetheart (difference being that unlike trolls faking it for personal gain, a self-respecting woman would promptly break up with him and look for someone else).

'''4) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started [[Transgender|dressing in feminine attire]], Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. When first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]] and [[Hair|nearly bald]]. His [[transgender]] identity hasn't helped either - he's now a manchild that resembles like an old bag lady, which doesn't even make him seem heterosexual anymore (sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's ''Failosophy'']], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the [[Homos|gay guy]], provided he wasn't joking). If Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was comparatively rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''5) Chris has poor hygiene.''' Chris takes little to no care of his personal hygiene. Chris has been described as having a putrid smell by people who met him in person, such as [[Emily]], [[Robert Simmons V]] and other field agents. For a while, Chris used [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower, as implied in an [[:File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Axe.jpg|ad]] for one of his Sonichu comics, seemingly oblivious to the fact that people can still detect his stench through all that deodorant. He also admits to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|literally shitting his pants]] on multiple occasions, most recently in 2021 (as far as we know). While his hygiene did [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|seemingly improve during his stay in jail]], it's unclear if it lasted, as he has since been described as smelling foul by [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Earthbound Trading Company|at least one witness, though another witness in the same vicinity has stated the contrary.]] Needless to say, a grown man who still shits the bed isn't exactly considered sexy by ordinary women.

'''6) Chris has no manners.''' Chris has difficulties understanding social norms and manners. This is a common trait among autistic folks, though this doesn't mean they are incapable of learning. Most learn early on in their childhood, either through special education, therapy, or their own parents, resources that clearly were never available to Chris. He has a habit of burping and farting in his [[Cakefarts|videos]] as well as in [[Anytime Fitness|public]]. The latter got him banned from a gym after they received numerous complaints from other patrons about Chris' constant flatulence (in addition to the constant harassment from [[weens]]). Chris's table manners are also severely lacking; from [[Christopher_Paul_Whitney_reveal|chewing food]] with his mouth wide open to [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|eating spaghetti]] 'like a toddler' while creepily hand-feeding Flutter cake with families around. Chris also has no sense of personal boundaries, and has inappropriately [[Megan emails, 2005-2006|touched]] and [[TooManyGames|kissed]] people even when they explicitly tell him several times not to do so. He tends to make inappropriate remarks without an understanding for time or place, such as doing his [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|racist]] Apu impression at an Indian restaurant. His other attempts at [[Random-access humor|humor]] are [[Namgge|cringey]] at best and [[Punchy Sonichu|downright offensive]] at worst. He has no problem in addressing a [[DoopieDoOver|stranger]] he only interacted with in a professional setting with nicknames normally reserved for sexual partners. Additionally, Chris often tries to drag people [[My Little Pony voice actresses|he barely knows]] into his drama in a vain attempt to turn them into a personal army against his perceived enemies. Even after it's made abundantly clear, Chris fails to realize that these strangers have better things to do in their life than be a part of some [[slow in the minds|mentally challenged]] manchild's petty grudges and childish zealotry. It is the very reason why even [[My Little Pony|progressive]] and [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|tolerant]] communities lose their patience with Chris. This point in particular is what caused even genuine [[Megan Schroeder|friends]] to throw in the towel on Chris, simply because of how insufferable he is.

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris has problems with authority.''' Despite the cliché that "all girls love [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|bad boys]]", a sensible woman is going to be put off by someone who is in constant trouble with [[Chris and the law|the law]]. Consider that Chris has on [[26 December 2014|two]] separate [[28 October 2011|occasions]] come very close to being sent to jail for several months; this is on top of his other lesser [[List of places that have banned Chris|brushes with authority figures]]. And it's not even as though Chris's attitude stems from him [[Episode 17#Epilogue|fighting for an important cause]] - Chris is willing to risk imprisonment for something as petty as [[Sonic Boom Protests|the color of an animated character's arms]]. Even if Chris does find his elusive sweetheart, few will be able to put up with the constant stream of bans, fines, and jail time brought about by Chris's [[Chris and anger|poor self-control]].

'''9) Chris has psychological issues.''' - Even from briefly reading [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]] ''alone'', one could immediately notice [[Chris and health#Mental health|Chris is not the most mentally sound of individuals]]. For one thing, he is [[Ego|heavily egotistical]] to the point where he repeatedly harbored [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex]], which slowly escalated into [[Chris and coping|childlike coping mechanisms]] (such as nostalgia, daydreaming, magical thinking and even [[Dimensional Merge|a merge of universes allowing fictional characters to become real]]) and (shortly after being incarcerated for incest) [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|proclaiming himself to be the second coming of Jesus Christ]]. Even ignoring his tendency toward delusions, he also has [[Chris and anger|an extensive history of lacking anger management]], up to and including verbally aggressive behavior, [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|death threats]] and [[28 October 2011|assaulting retail]] [[26 December 2014|staff twice]], a shortcoming for which [[List of places that have banned Chris|he has gotten banned from numerous places]] (mind you, that's ''far from'' the only reason he received bans). Worst of all, Chris has [[Chris and mental healthcare|never gotten psychiatric treatment]] unless forced to by authorities and even then, [[Therapeutic Docket|he would invariably come out just the same as he went in without ever learning anything to better himself]]. It's safe to presume that someone as mentally unstable as Chris is not relationship material.

'''10) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be [[Chris and writing|proficient]] [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and art|several]] [[Chris and music|of the arts]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares ''[[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]]'', and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the aforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[2014 house fire|burned to the ground]], the result of him choosing to brew coffee in his bathroom with an extension cable propped over the door. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical and stubborn]] [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He is completely inept when it comes to [[Chris and money|managing money]], meaning any relationship with him will be a [[Financhu Crisis|financial nightmare]]. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''11) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the Internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''[[Honest Content|himself]]'', there are literally [[Affair with Mother|volumes]] [[Death threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween emailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarrassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

'''12) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a children's book to try to get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role of the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] listing [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead, he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could see past these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, and the few "friends" he had were either paid off by his parents or were trolls from the very beginning, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend?

'''13) Chris doesn't care.''' Autistic people are not known to be the most [[Empathy|empathetic]] people, but Chris takes the cake. Chris has demonstrated more often than not his inability to care about anyone or anything, and when he does, it's only for secondary gain, such as attention, or in the case of a female, her [[China]]. Most of the time when people, including his (fake) [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]], talked about their problems with Chris, he would often react nonchalantly and dismissive or bring up unrelated mishaps of his to make their problems look petty in comparison.

As for his own family, it's not any better.

Starting with Cole. When Cole talked about his grievances with their mother and his frustration at her refusal to come clean about his biological father, Chris did not pay attention to anything what Cole wrote and instead asked Cole to vote for him, a middle aged man at the time, to vote for him in some juvenile contest. Only when Cole played along did Chris cooperate, but even then he showed little interest in his own brother's plight.

When his aunt [[Corinna]] died, Chris was more upset that he couldn't enjoy his birthday and munch on some cupcakes, than his aunt dying, who was the only family member who still tolerated Barb and Chris.

Not long after, when it was revealed that Cole married, Chris, instead of working up the empathy to congratulate his brother, made a [[Message for John Kyle|video]] addressed to Cole's brother-in-law where basically tells him what a piece of shit Cole is, straight up denies his mistreatment at Barb's hands, as well as congratulate Cole in a condescending manner.

Bob's death was the only time Chris showed genuine sadness for a time. Although at one point, he admitted to have never loved Bob, but respected him. Well, what is Chris' idea of respecting his own father, to whom he owes his existence and lifestyle? Have sex with his wife and insult him while he was at it. As for Barb, the person Chris was closest to, not long after the incest fallout, Chris wished her dead, so he can have the house all to himself.

A relationship is a financial ,as well as an emotional investment. If he is incapable of doing the latter with his own family, how will he do it with a partner?

In the end, Chris cares about no one but himself, that's why no one will care about him.

'''14) Chris is economically undesirable.''' Putting aside all the above-listed flaws, what a potential sweetheart really wants from a man is a responsible adult who has something going for him. For starters, Chris only managed to get an [[CADD|Associate]], which became obsolete without him ever putting it to use, choosing to live off his meager [[tugboat]] instead. Chris's only selling point is his art, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. To begin with, his artistic skills are still on the level of an elementary schooler, despite drawing art for most of his life so far. His works, rather than having original ideas, are mostly self-inserts and blatant rip-offs of existing IPs. Additionally, while the content of his drawings are popular with [[trolls]] and [[weens]], the vast majority of people would consider them either [[Sonichu's News Dash|oblique]] or outright [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|disturbing]]. If a woman were to see any of Chris' works, she would run for the hills; [[Megan]] and the [[Gal-Pals]] already had. Had Chris actually utilized his full artistic potential, put the effort into his art, and invented original works, he could've made for a fine freelance artist and even scored among a Sweetheart. Instead, Chris has chosen to waste away the rest of his life, lost in his [[Dimensional Merge|delusions]].

Throughout human history, women are psychologically inclined to mate with men who have the most resources, both material and financial ones. Nowadays, as women can go study, work and make money on their own, they are no longer reliant on men as providers. Nonetheless, the archaic pattern remains and even in modern day society, women will go for men on the same, even higher level of their education and income, such as Doctors, Surgeons, Lawyers, Engineers, IT, or any mid to high level employee. They'll be in no rush to settle down with a greasy, middle-aged shut-in who lives off [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], much less have children with him.

Ultimately, Chris' social and financial status will inevitably keep him from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

== Present situation ==

[[File:NaiveChrisHedgehog.gif|thumb|right|300px|This is what Chris's break-ups are like.]]

In July 2015,<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sweetheart&diff=188584&oldid=188265 Revision] as of 26 July 2015.</ref> the CWCki originally concluded that no person - male, female or [[Tomgirl Saga|other]] - would likely find him attractive, but there was still a small window of opportunity for Chris to improve his chances of enticing a sweetheart, with a major lifestyle overhaul and some serious self-betterment.

Unfortunately, that window of opportunity has closed: in addition to all the reasons listed above, Chris has given up on reality with the [[Dimensional Merge]]. What little remained of his chances of attracting a sweetheart disappeared in 2018, when Chris ended his [[Love Quest]] by marrying some of his [[Polyamorous marriage|imaginary OCs]], and then [[Love_Quest#Idea Guys influences|declined]] an offer of a date with a female fan cosplaying as him because of his imaginary marriage.

Even ''more'' unfortunately, that window of opportunity had not closed as we once thought it did. in late [[July 2021]], the [[incest call]] was leaked, and the grim truth of Chris's love-life came to the surface. Called "the [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] of the internet" by some, it turned out that Chris had been in a sexual relationship with his mother since at least June of that year. This event adds one last reason for why the chances of Chris getting a sweetheart enormously low: nobody wants to date a literal motherfucker. While there's now [[Flutter|another potential contender for this role]], it seems less and less likely that she will actually take up the mantle.

==References==
<references />

==See also==
* [[List of Love Quest candidates]]
* [[Boyfriend-free girl]]
* [[Gal pal]]
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]
* [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Noviophobia]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

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Sweetheart

2024-11-11T21:35:31Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart? */

{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] [[Mia Hamm|(which he ultimately accomplished without a sweetheart)]], and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, a trip to a hooker (two in fact), and [[Affair with Mother|having sex with his mother]]. Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself frivolously applied, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Chris's [[Gal-Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts because they are known to Chris and don't appear to hate him.

Chris's ideal vision for a sweetheart is more or less one that allowed him to continue living as a "self-employed" stay-at-home husband/father/son, since he didn't make a significant effort to support a prospective family at any point during his [[Love Quest]] aside from briefly applying for a minimum-wage job for [[Kacey]]. Based on [[Chris and work|his frustration at the idea of doing any work whatsoever]], it's likely that he wanted someone to effectively mother him rather than an equal partner, who he could also have sex with and impregnate with [[Crystal Weston Chandler|a kid]] [[Reginald Chandler|or two]]. Chris also seemed to be under the impression that they'd live with his parents [[14 Branchland Court|and their hoard]], who he'd presumably leave his sweetheart-to-be to raise his kids with.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Chris spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Two's company snapshots|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [Chris's age then] Years Old (though not conclusive, as Barb was 79 years old back then)
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Chris established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==
[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that a special someone is waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea. (However, an argument could be made that [[Jacob Sockness]] qualifies.)

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a 42 year old man who plays with children's toys and video games all day and lived with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] up until age 39 (when authorities separated them due to him [[Affair with Mother|committing incest with her]]). Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are completely foreign concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid shit he doesn't need]]. Even when this habit [[Financhu Crisis|sank the Chandler finances into an all-time low]], he refused to take responsibility; he instead [[Please, Donate|resorted]] [[Donation Request|to]] [[Donations, Please, plus Live Game Stream tonight.|e]]-[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|begging]] [[Donations_Requested,_Please|a]] [[Donations_Required,_Serious._Please_help|very]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_1|large]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_2|number]] [[Announcement_06292016|of]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|times]] like a child to make up for his failure to put the simplest of money aside for [[McDonald's|food]], bills and medicine. On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. While stay-at-home husbands/dads are no rarity these days, they are not without responsibilities. He didn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd have dumped this responsibility on his elderly mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has no idea how to behave around women.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that bother women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. Chris has many childish mannerisms and social hindrances that are repugnant to women (and men alike); in the infamous [[For My Sweetest Ivy|video for Ivy]], these things are in abundance. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream "manchild", and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref>

'''3) Chris is not trustworthy.''' Chris is known to [[List of Chris's lies|lie a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can grievously damage a woman's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On his date with [[Catherine]], he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with [[Megan]] shortly before he ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, after specifically being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "[[Cousin Al]]" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. Also, much as Chris would profess his love for anyone he considered his sweetheart and that he would do anything for them, his interactions with [[trolls]] (especially those [[PandaHalo|pretending]] [[BlueSpike|to]] [[Kacey|be]] [[Jackie|girlfriends]]) have unwittingly revealed otherwise. For example, when [[Julie]] was supposedly in mortal danger, he was offered multiple opportunities to rescue her and he did barely ''anything'' to keep his end of the deals, even when he was audibly concerned about his [[PSN]] account being held for ransom. Needless to say, if Chris fails to keep his promises with imaginary soulmates, he wouldn't do any better with an actual sweetheart (difference being that unlike trolls faking it for personal gain, a self-respecting woman would promptly break up with him and look for someone else).

'''4) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started [[Transgender|dressing in feminine attire]], Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. When first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]] and [[Hair|nearly bald]]. His [[transgender]] identity hasn't helped either - he's now a manchild that resembles like an old bag lady, which doesn't even make him seem heterosexual anymore (sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's ''Failosophy'']], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the [[Homos|gay guy]], provided he wasn't joking). If Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was comparatively rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''5) Chris has poor hygiene.''' Chris takes little to no care of his personal hygiene. Chris has been described as having a putrid smell by people who met him in person, such as [[Emily]], [[Robert Simmons V]] and other field agents. For a while, Chris used [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower, as implied in an [[:File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Axe.jpg|ad]] for one of his Sonichu comics, seemingly oblivious to the fact that people can still detect his stench through all that deodorant. He also admits to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|literally shitting his pants]] on multiple occasions, most recently in 2021 (as far as we know). While his hygiene did [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|seemingly improve during his stay in jail]], it's unclear if it lasted, as he has since been described as smelling foul by [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Earthbound Trading Company|at least one witness, though another witness in the same vicinity has stated the contrary.]] Needless to say, a grown man who still shits the bed isn't exactly considered sexy by ordinary women.

'''6) Chris has no manners.''' Chris has difficulties understanding social norms and manners. This is a common trait among autistic folks, though this doesn't mean they are incapable of learning. Most learn early on in their childhood, either through special education, therapy, or their own parents, resources that clearly were never available to Chris. He has a habit of burping and farting in his [[Cakefarts|videos]] as well as in [[Anytime Fitness|public]]. The latter got him banned from a gym after they received numerous complaints from other patrons about Chris' constant flatulence (in addition to the constant harassment from [[weens]]). Chris's table manners are also severely lacking; from [[Christopher_Paul_Whitney_reveal|chewing food]] with his mouth wide open to [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|eating spaghetti]] 'like a toddler' while creepily hand-feeding Flutter cake with families around. Chris also has no sense of personal boundaries, and has inappropriately [[Megan emails, 2005-2006|touched]] and [[TooManyGames|kissed]] people even when they explicitly tell him several times not to do so. He tends to make inappropriate remarks without an understanding for time or place, such as doing his [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|racist]] Apu impression at an Indian restaurant. His other attempts at [[Random-access humor|humor]] are [[Namgge|cringey]] at best and [[Punchy Sonichu|downright offensive]] at worst. He has no problem in addressing a [[DoopieDoOver|stranger]] he only interacted with in a professional setting with nicknames normally reserved for sexual partners. Additionally, Chris often tries to drag people [[My Little Pony voice actresses|he barely knows]] into his drama in a vain attempt to turn them into a personal army against his perceived enemies. Even after it's made abundantly clear, Chris fails to realize that these strangers have better things to do in their life than be a part of some [[slow in the minds|mentally challenged]] manchild's petty grudges and childish zealotry. It is the very reason why even [[My Little Pony|progressive]] and [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|tolerant]] communities lose their patience with Chris. This point in particular is what caused even genuine [[Megan Schroeder|friends]] to throw in the towel on Chris, simply because of how insufferable he is.

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris has problems with authority.''' Despite the cliché that "all girls love [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|bad boys]]", a sensible woman is going to be put off by someone who is in constant trouble with [[Chris and the law|the law]]. Consider that Chris has on [[26 December 2014|two]] separate [[28 October 2011|occasions]] come very close to being sent to jail for several months; this is on top of his other lesser [[List of places that have banned Chris|brushes with authority figures]]. And it's not even as though Chris's attitude stems from him [[Episode 17#Epilogue|fighting for an important cause]] - Chris is willing to risk imprisonment for something as petty as [[Sonic Boom Protests|the color of an animated character's arms]]. Even if Chris does find his elusive sweetheart, few will be able to put up with the constant stream of bans, fines, and jail time brought about by Chris's [[Chris and anger|poor self-control]].

'''9) Chris has psychological issues.''' - Even from briefly reading [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]] ''alone'', one could immediately notice [[Chris and health#Mental health|Chris is not the most mentally sound of individuals]]. For one thing, he is [[Ego|heavily egotistical]] to the point where he repeatedly harbored [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex]], which slowly escalated into [[Chris and coping|childlike coping mechanisms]] (such as nostalgia, daydreaming, magical thinking and even [[Dimensional Merge|a merge of universes allowing fictional characters to become real]]) and (shortly after being incarcerated for incest) [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|proclaiming himself to be the second coming of Jesus Christ]]. Even ignoring his tendency toward delusions, he also has [[Chris and anger|an extensive history of lacking anger management]], up to and including verbally aggressive behavior, [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|death threats]] and [[28 October 2011|assaulting retail]] [[26 December 2014|staff twice]], a shortcoming for which [[List of places that have banned Chris|he has gotten banned from numerous places]] (mind you, that's ''far from'' the only reason he received bans). Worst of all, Chris has never gotten psychiatric treatment unless forced to by authorities and even then, he came out just as the same as he went in without ever learning anything to better himself. It's safe to presume that someone as mentally unstable as Chris is not relationship material.

'''10) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be [[Chris and writing|proficient]] [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and art|several]] [[Chris and music|of the arts]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares ''[[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]]'', and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the aforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[2014 house fire|burned to the ground]], the result of him choosing to brew coffee in his bathroom with an extension cable propped over the door. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical and stubborn]] [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He is completely inept when it comes to [[Chris and money|managing money]], meaning any relationship with him will be a [[Financhu Crisis|financial nightmare]]. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''11) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the Internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''[[Honest Content|himself]]'', there are literally [[Affair with Mother|volumes]] [[Death threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween emailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarrassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

'''12) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a children's book to try to get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role of the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] listing [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead, he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could see past these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, and the few "friends" he had were either paid off by his parents or were trolls from the very beginning, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend?

'''13) Chris doesn't care.''' Autistic people are not known to be the most [[Empathy|empathetic]] people, but Chris takes the cake. Chris has demonstrated more often than not his inability to care about anyone or anything, and when he does, it's only for secondary gain, such as attention, or in the case of a female, her [[China]]. Most of the time when people, including his (fake) [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]], talked about their problems with Chris, he would often react nonchalantly and dismissive or bring up unrelated mishaps of his to make their problems look petty in comparison.

As for his own family, it's not any better.

Starting with Cole. When Cole talked about his grievances with their mother and his frustration at her refusal to come clean about his biological father, Chris did not pay attention to anything what Cole wrote and instead asked Cole to vote for him, a middle aged man at the time, to vote for him in some juvenile contest. Only when Cole played along did Chris cooperate, but even then he showed little interest in his own brother's plight.

When his aunt [[Corinna]] died, Chris was more upset that he couldn't enjoy his birthday and munch on some cupcakes, than his aunt dying, who was the only family member who still tolerated Barb and Chris.

Not long after, when it was revealed that Cole married, Chris, instead of working up the empathy to congratulate his brother, made a [[Message for John Kyle|video]] addressed to Cole's brother-in-law where basically tells him what a piece of shit Cole is, straight up denies his mistreatment at Barb's hands, as well as congratulate Cole in a condescending manner.

Bob's death was the only time Chris showed genuine sadness for a time. Although at one point, he admitted to have never loved Bob, but respected him. Well, what is Chris' idea of respecting his own father, to whom he owes his existence and lifestyle? Have sex with his wife and insult him while he was at it. As for Barb, the person Chris was closest to, not long after the incest fallout, Chris wished her dead, so he can have the house all to himself.

A relationship is a financial ,as well as an emotional investment. If he is incapable of doing the latter with his own family, how will he do it with a partner?

In the end, Chris cares about no one but himself, that's why no one will care about him.

'''14) Chris is economically undesirable.''' Putting aside all the above-listed flaws, what a potential sweetheart really wants from a man is a responsible adult who has something going for him. For starters, Chris only managed to get an [[CADD|Associate]], which became obsolete without him ever putting it to use, choosing to live off his meager [[tugboat]] instead. Chris's only selling point is his art, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. To begin with, his artistic skills are still on the level of an elementary schooler, despite drawing art for most of his life so far. His works, rather than having original ideas, are mostly self-inserts and blatant rip-offs of existing IPs. Additionally, while the content of his drawings are popular with [[trolls]] and [[weens]], the vast majority of people would consider them either [[Sonichu's News Dash|oblique]] or outright [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|disturbing]]. If a woman were to see any of Chris' works, she would run for the hills; [[Megan]] and the [[Gal-Pals]] already had. Had Chris actually utilized his full artistic potential, put the effort into his art, and invented original works, he could've made for a fine freelance artist and even scored among a Sweetheart. Instead, Chris has chosen to waste away the rest of his life, lost in his [[Dimensional Merge|delusions]].

Throughout human history, women are psychologically inclined to mate with men who have the most resources, both material and financial ones. Nowadays, as women can go study, work and make money on their own, they are no longer reliant on men as providers. Nonetheless, the archaic pattern remains and even in modern day society, women will go for men on the same, even higher level of their education and income, such as Doctors, Surgeons, Lawyers, Engineers, IT, or any mid to high level employee. They'll be in no rush to settle down with a greasy, middle-aged shut-in who lives off [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], much less have children with him.

Ultimately, Chris' social and financial status will inevitably keep him from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

== Present situation ==

[[File:NaiveChrisHedgehog.gif|thumb|right|300px|This is what Chris's break-ups are like.]]

In July 2015,<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sweetheart&diff=188584&oldid=188265 Revision] as of 26 July 2015.</ref> the CWCki originally concluded that no person - male, female or [[Tomgirl Saga|other]] - would likely find him attractive, but there was still a small window of opportunity for Chris to improve his chances of enticing a sweetheart, with a major lifestyle overhaul and some serious self-betterment.

Unfortunately, that window of opportunity has closed: in addition to all the reasons listed above, Chris has given up on reality with the [[Dimensional Merge]]. What little remained of his chances of attracting a sweetheart disappeared in 2018, when Chris ended his [[Love Quest]] by marrying some of his [[Polyamorous marriage|imaginary OCs]], and then [[Love_Quest#Idea Guys influences|declined]] an offer of a date with a female fan cosplaying as him because of his imaginary marriage.

Even ''more'' unfortunately, that window of opportunity had not closed as we once thought it did. in late [[July 2021]], the [[incest call]] was leaked, and the grim truth of Chris's love-life came to the surface. Called "the [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] of the internet" by some, it turned out that Chris had been in a sexual relationship with his mother since at least June of that year. This event adds one last reason for why the chances of Chris getting a sweetheart enormously low: nobody wants to date a literal motherfucker. While there's now [[Flutter|another potential contender for this role]], it seems less and less likely that she will actually take up the mantle.

==References==
<references />

==See also==
* [[List of Love Quest candidates]]
* [[Boyfriend-free girl]]
* [[Gal pal]]
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]
* [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Noviophobia]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

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Sweetheart

2024-11-11T03:45:51Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart? */

{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] [[Mia Hamm|(which he ultimately accomplished without a sweetheart)]], and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, a trip to a hooker (two in fact), and [[Affair with Mother|having sex with his mother]]. Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself frivolously applied, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Chris's [[Gal-Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts because they are known to Chris and don't appear to hate him.

Chris's ideal vision for a sweetheart is more or less one that allowed him to continue living as a "self-employed" stay-at-home husband/father/son, since he didn't make a significant effort to support a prospective family at any point during his [[Love Quest]] aside from briefly applying for a minimum-wage job for [[Kacey]]. Based on [[Chris and work|his frustration at the idea of doing any work whatsoever]], it's likely that he wanted someone to effectively mother him rather than an equal partner, who he could also have sex with and impregnate with [[Crystal Weston Chandler|a kid]] [[Reginald Chandler|or two]]. Chris also seemed to be under the impression that they'd live with his parents [[14 Branchland Court|and their hoard]], who he'd presumably leave his sweetheart-to-be to raise his kids with.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Chris spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Two's company snapshots|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [Chris's age then] Years Old (though not conclusive, as Barb was 79 years old back then)
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Chris established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==
[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that a special someone is waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea. (However, an argument could be made that [[Jacob Sockness]] qualifies.)

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a 42 year old man who plays with children's toys and video games all day and lived with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] up until age 39 (when authorities separated them due to him [[Affair with Mother|committing incest with her]]). Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are completely foreign concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid shit he doesn't need]]. Even when this habit [[Financhu Crisis|sank the Chandler finances into an all-time low]], he refused to take responsibility; he instead [[Please, Donate|resorted]] [[Donation Request|to]] [[Donations, Please, plus Live Game Stream tonight.|e]]-[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|begging]] [[Donations_Requested,_Please|a]] [[Donations_Required,_Serious._Please_help|very]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_1|large]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_2|number]] [[Announcement_06292016|of]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|times]] like a child to make up for his failure to put the simplest of money aside for [[McDonald's|food]], bills and medicine. On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. While stay-at-home husbands/dads are no rarity these days, they are not without responsibilities. He didn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd have dumped this responsibility on his elderly mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has no idea how to behave around women.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that bother women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. Chris has many childish mannerisms and social hindrances that are repugnant to women (and men alike); in the infamous [[For My Sweetest Ivy|video for Ivy]], these things are in abundance. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream "manchild", and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref>

'''3) Chris is not trustworthy.''' Chris is known to [[List of Chris's lies|lie a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can grievously damage a woman's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On his date with [[Catherine]], he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with [[Megan]] shortly before he ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, after specifically being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "[[Cousin Al]]" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. Also, much as Chris would profess his love for anyone he considered his sweetheart and that he would do anything for them, his interactions with trolls (especially those prertending to be girlfriends) have unwittingly revealed otherwise. For example, when [[Julie]] was supposedly in mortal danger, he was offered multiple opportunities and he did barely ''anything'' to keep his end of the deals, even when he was audibly concerned about his [[PSN]] account being held for ransom. Needless to say, if Chris fails to keep his promises with imaginary soulmates, he wouldn't do any better with an actual sweetheart (difference being that unlike trolls faking it for personal gain, a self-respecting woman would promptly break up with him and look for someone else).

'''4) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started [[Transgender|dressing in feminine attire]], Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. When first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]] and [[Hair|nearly bald]]. His [[transgender]] identity hasn't helped either - he's now a manchild that resembles like an old bag lady, which doesn't even make him seem heterosexual anymore (sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's ''Failosophy'']], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the [[Homos|gay guy]], provided he wasn't joking). If Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was comparatively rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''5) Chris has poor hygiene.''' Chris takes little to no care of his personal hygiene. Chris has been described as having a putrid smell by people who met him in person, such as [[Emily]], [[Robert Simmons V]] and other field agents. For a while, Chris used [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower, as implied in an [[:File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Axe.jpg|ad]] for one of his Sonichu comics, seemingly oblivious to the fact that people can still detect his stench through all that deodorant. He also admits to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|literally shitting his pants]] on multiple occasions, most recently in 2021 (as far as we know). While his hygiene did [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|seemingly improve during his stay in jail]], it's unclear if it lasted, as he has since been described as smelling foul by [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Earthbound Trading Company|at least one witness, though another witness in the same vicinity has stated the contrary.]] Needless to say, a grown man who still shits the bed isn't exactly considered sexy by ordinary women.

'''6) Chris has no manners.''' Chris has difficulties understanding social norms and manners. This is a common trait among autistic folks, though this doesn't mean they are incapable of learning. Most learn early on in their childhood, either through special education, therapy, or their own parents, resources that clearly were never available to Chris. He has a habit of burping and farting in his [[Cakefarts|videos]] as well as in [[Anytime Fitness|public]]. The latter got him banned from a gym after they received numerous complaints from other patrons about Chris' constant flatulence (in addition to the constant harassment from [[weens]]). Chris's table manners are also severely lacking; from [[Christopher_Paul_Whitney_reveal|chewing food]] with his mouth wide open to [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|eating spaghetti]] 'like a toddler' while creepily hand-feeding Flutter cake with families around. Chris also has no sense of personal boundaries, and has inappropriately [[Megan emails, 2005-2006|touched]] and [[TooManyGames|kissed]] people even when they explicitly tell him several times not to do so. He tends to make inappropriate remarks without an understanding for time or place, such as doing his [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|racist]] Apu impression at an Indian restaurant. His other attempts at [[Random-access humor|humor]] are [[Namgge|cringey]] at best and [[Punchy Sonichu|downright offensive]] at worst. He has no problem in addressing a [[DoopieDoOver|stranger]] he only interacted with in a professional setting with nicknames normally reserved for sexual partners. Additionally, Chris often tries to drag people [[My Little Pony voice actresses|he barely knows]] into his drama in a vain attempt to turn them into a personal army against his perceived enemies. Even after it's made abundantly clear, Chris fails to realize that these strangers have better things to do in their life than be a part of some [[slow in the minds|mentally challenged]] manchild's petty grudges and childish zealotry. It is the very reason why even [[My Little Pony|progressive]] and [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|tolerant]] communities lose their patience with Chris. This point in particular is what caused even genuine [[Megan Schroeder|friends]] to throw in the towel on Chris, simply because of how insufferable he is.

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris has problems with authority.''' Despite the cliché that "all girls love [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|bad boys]]", a sensible woman is going to be put off by someone who is in constant trouble with [[Chris and the law|the law]]. Consider that Chris has on [[26 December 2014|two]] separate [[28 October 2011|occasions]] come very close to being sent to jail for several months; this is on top of his other lesser [[List of places that have banned Chris|brushes with authority figures]]. And it's not even as though Chris's attitude stems from him [[Episode 17#Epilogue|fighting for an important cause]] - Chris is willing to risk imprisonment for something as petty as [[Sonic Boom Protests|the color of an animated character's arms]]. Even if Chris does find his elusive sweetheart, few will be able to put up with the constant stream of bans, fines, and jail time brought about by Chris's [[Chris and anger|poor self-control]].

'''9) Chris has psychological issues.''' - Even from briefly reading [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]] ''alone'', one could immediately notice [[Chris and health#Mental health|Chris is not the most mentally sound of individuals]]. For one thing, he is [[Ego|heavily egotistical]] to the point where he repeatedly harbored [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex]], which slowly escalated into [[Chris and coping|childlike coping mechanisms]] (such as nostalgia, daydreaming, magical thinking and even [[Dimensional Merge|a merge of universes allowing fictional characters to become real]]) and (shortly after being incarcerated for incest) [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|proclaiming himself to be the second coming of Jesus Christ]]. Even ignoring his tendency toward delusions, he also has [[Chris and anger|an extensive history of lacking anger management]], up to and including verbally aggressive behavior, [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|death threats]] and [[28 October 2011|assaulting retail]] [[26 December 2014|staff twice]], a shortcoming for which [[List of places that have banned Chris|he has gotten banned from numerous places]] (mind you, that's ''far from'' the only reason he received bans). Worst of all, Chris has never gotten psychiatric treatment unless forced to by authorities and even then, he came out just as the same as he went in without ever learning anything to better himself. It's safe to presume that someone as mentally unstable as Chris is not relationship material.

'''10) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be [[Chris and writing|proficient]] [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and art|several]] [[Chris and music|of the arts]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares ''[[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]]'', and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the aforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[2014 house fire|burned to the ground]], the result of him choosing to brew coffee in his bathroom with an extension cable propped over the door. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical and stubborn]] [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He is completely inept when it comes to [[Chris and money|managing money]], meaning any relationship with him will be a [[Financhu Crisis|financial nightmare]]. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''11) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the Internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''[[Honest Content|himself]]'', there are literally [[Affair with Mother|volumes]] [[Death threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween emailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarrassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

'''12) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a children's book to try to get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role of the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] listing [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead, he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could see past these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, and the few "friends" he had were either paid off by his parents or were trolls from the very beginning, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend?

'''13) Chris doesn't care.''' Autistic people are not known to be the most [[Empathy|empathetic]] people, but Chris takes the cake. Chris has demonstrated more often than not his inability to care about anyone or anything, and when he does, it's only for secondary gain, such as attention, or in the case of a female, her [[China]]. Most of the time when people, including his (fake) [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]], talked about their problems with Chris, he would often react nonchalantly and dismissive or bring up unrelated mishaps of his to make their problems look petty in comparison.

As for his own family, it's not any better.

Starting with Cole. When Cole talked about his grievances with their mother and his frustration at her refusal to come clean about his biological father, Chris did not pay attention to anything what Cole wrote and instead asked Cole to vote for him, a middle aged man at the time, to vote for him in some juvenile contest. Only when Cole played along did Chris cooperate, but even then he showed little interest in his own brother's plight.

When his aunt [[Corinna]] died, Chris was more upset that he couldn't enjoy his birthday and munch on some cupcakes, than his aunt dying, who was the only family member who still tolerated Barb and Chris.

Not long after, when it was revealed that Cole married, Chris, instead of working up the empathy to congratulate his brother, made a [[Message for John Kyle|video]] addressed to Cole's brother-in-law where basically tells him what a piece of shit Cole is, straight up denies his mistreatment at Barb's hands, as well as congratulate Cole in a condescending manner.

Bob's death was the only time Chris showed genuine sadness for a time. Although at one point, he admitted to have never loved Bob, but respected him. Well, what is Chris' idea of respecting his own father, to whom he owes his existence and lifestyle? Sell his memorabilia to fund his impulse purchases, have sex with his wife and insult him while he was at it. As for Barb, the person Chris was closest to, not long after the incest fallout, Chris wished her dead, so he can have the house all to himself.

A relationship is a financial ,as well as an emotional investment. If he is incapable of doing the latter with his own family, how will he do it with a partner?

In the end, Chris cares about no one but himself, that's why no one will care about him.

'''14) Chris is economically undesirable.''' Putting aside all the above-listed flaws, what a potential sweetheart really wants from a man is a responsible adult who has something going for him. For starters, Chris only managed to get an [[CADD|Associate]], which became obsolete without him ever putting it to use, choosing to live off his meager [[tugboat]] instead. Chris's only selling point is his art, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. To begin with, his artistic skills are still on the level of an elementary schooler, despite drawing art for most of his life so far. His works, rather than having original ideas, are mostly self-inserts and blatant rip-offs of existing IPs. Additionally, while the content of his drawings are popular with [[trolls]] and [[weens]], the vast majority of people would consider them either [[Sonichu's News Dash|oblique]] or outright [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|disturbing]]. If a woman were to see any of Chris' works, she would run for the hills; [[Megan]] and the [[Gal-Pals]] already had. Had Chris actually utilized his full artistic potential, put the effort into his art, and invented original works, he could've made for a fine freelance artist and even scored among a Sweetheart. Instead, Chris has chosen to waste away the rest of his life, lost in his [[Dimensional Merge|delusions]].

Throughout human history, women are psychologically inclined to mate with men who have the most resources, both material and financial ones. Nowadays, as women can go study, work and make money on their own, they are no longer reliant on men as providers. Nonetheless, the archaic pattern remains and even in modern day society, women will go for men on the same, even higher level of their education and income, such as Doctors, Surgeons, Lawyers, Engineers, IT, or any mid to high level employee. They'll be in no rush to settle down with a greasy, middle-aged shut-in who lives off [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], much less have children with him.

Ultimately, Chris' social and financial status will inevitably keep him from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

== Present situation ==

[[File:NaiveChrisHedgehog.gif|thumb|right|300px|This is what Chris's break-ups are like.]]

In July 2015,<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sweetheart&diff=188584&oldid=188265 Revision] as of 26 July 2015.</ref> the CWCki originally concluded that no person - male, female or [[Tomgirl Saga|other]] - would likely find him attractive, but there was still a small window of opportunity for Chris to improve his chances of enticing a sweetheart, with a major lifestyle overhaul and some serious self-betterment.

Unfortunately, that window of opportunity has closed: in addition to all the reasons listed above, Chris has given up on reality with the [[Dimensional Merge]]. What little remained of his chances of attracting a sweetheart disappeared in 2018, when Chris ended his [[Love Quest]] by marrying some of his [[Polyamorous marriage|imaginary OCs]], and then [[Love_Quest#Idea Guys influences|declined]] an offer of a date with a female fan cosplaying as him because of his imaginary marriage.

Even ''more'' unfortunately, that window of opportunity had not closed as we once thought it did. in late [[July 2021]], the [[incest call]] was leaked, and the grim truth of Chris's love-life came to the surface. Called "the [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] of the internet" by some, it turned out that Chris had been in a sexual relationship with his mother since at least June of that year. This event adds one last reason for why the chances of Chris getting a sweetheart enormously low: nobody wants to date a literal motherfucker. While there's now [[Flutter|another potential contender for this role]], it seems less and less likely that she will actually take up the mantle.

==References==
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==See also==
* [[List of Love Quest candidates]]
* [[Boyfriend-free girl]]
* [[Gal pal]]
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]
* [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Noviophobia]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

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Sweetheart

2024-11-11T01:27:52Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart? */

{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] [[Mia Hamm|(which he ultimately accomplished without a sweetheart)]], and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, a trip to a hooker (two in fact), and [[Affair with Mother|having sex with his mother]]. Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself frivolously applied, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Chris's [[Gal-Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts because they are known to Chris and don't appear to hate him.

Chris's ideal vision for a sweetheart is more or less one that allowed him to continue living as a "self-employed" stay-at-home husband/father/son, since he didn't make a significant effort to support a prospective family at any point during his [[Love Quest]] aside from briefly applying for a minimum-wage job for [[Kacey]]. Based on [[Chris and work|his frustration at the idea of doing any work whatsoever]], it's likely that he wanted someone to effectively mother him rather than an equal partner, who he could also have sex with and impregnate with [[Crystal Weston Chandler|a kid]] [[Reginald Chandler|or two]]. Chris also seemed to be under the impression that they'd live with his parents [[14 Branchland Court|and their hoard]], who he'd presumably leave his sweetheart-to-be to raise his kids with.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Chris spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Two's company snapshots|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [Chris's age then] Years Old (though not conclusive, as Barb was 79 years old back then)
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Chris established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==
[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that a special someone is waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea. (However, an argument could be made that [[Jacob Sockness]] qualifies.)

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a 42 year old man who plays with children's toys and video games all day and lived with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] up until age 39 (when authorities separated them due to him [[Affair with Mother|committing incest with her]]). Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are completely foreign concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid shit he doesn't need]]. Even when this habit [[Financhu Crisis|sank the Chandler finances into an all-time low]], he refused to take responsibility; he instead [[Please, Donate|resorted]] [[Donation Request|to]] [[Donations, Please, plus Live Game Stream tonight.|e]]-[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|begging]] [[Donations_Requested,_Please|a]] [[Donations_Required,_Serious._Please_help|very]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_1|large]] [[Reading_"Unicorns,_Rainbows,_and_a_Bluebird_of_Happiness"_Chapter_2|number]] [[Announcement_06292016|of]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|times]] like a child to make up for his failure to put the simplest of money aside for [[McDonald's|food]], bills and medicine. On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. While stay-at-home husbands/dads are no rarity these days, they are not without responsibilities. He didn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd have dumped this responsibility on his elderly mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has no idea how to behave around women.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that bother women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. Chris has many childish mannerisms and social hindrances that are repugnant to women (and men alike); in the infamous [[For My Sweetest Ivy|video for Ivy]], these things are in abundance. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream "manchild", and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref>

'''3) Chris is not trustworthy.''' Chris is known to [[List of Chris's lies|lie a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can grievously damage a woman's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On his date with [[Catherine]], he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with [[Megan]] shortly before he ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, after specifically being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "[[Cousin Al]]" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. Also, much as Chris would profess his love for anyone he considered his sweetheart and that he would do anything for them, his interactions with trolls (especially those prertending to be girlfriends) have unwittingly revealed otherwise. For example, when [[Julie]] was supposedly in mortal danger, he was offered multiple opportunities and he did barely ''anything'' to keep his end of the deals, even when he was audibly concerned about his [[PSN]] account being held for ransom. Needless to say, if Chris fails to keep his promises with imaginary soulmates, he wouldn't do any better with an actual sweetheart (difference being that unlike trolls faking it for personal gain, a self-respecting woman would promptly break up with him and look for someone else).

'''4) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started [[Transgender|dressing in feminine attire]], Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. When first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]] and [[Hair|nearly bald]]. His [[transgender]] identity hasn't helped either - he's now a manchild that resembles like an old bag lady, which doesn't even make him seem heterosexual anymore (sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's ''Failosophy'']], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the [[Homos|gay guy]], provided he wasn't joking). If Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was comparatively rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''5) Chris has poor hygiene.''' Chris takes little to no care of his personal hygiene. Chris has been described as having a putrid smell by people who met him in person, such as [[Emily]], [[Robert Simmons V]] and other field agents. For a while, Chris used [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower, as implied in an [[:File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Axe.jpg|ad]] for one of his Sonichu comics, seemingly oblivious to the fact that people can still detect his stench through all that deodorant. He also admits to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|literally shitting his pants]] on multiple occasions, most recently in 2021 (as far as we know). While his hygiene did [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|seemingly improve during his stay in jail]], it's unclear if it lasted, as he has since been described as smelling foul by [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Earthbound Trading Company|at least one witness, though another witness in the same vicinity has stated the contrary.]] Needless to say, a grown man who still shits the bed isn't exactly considered sexy by ordinary women.

'''6) Chris has no manners.''' Chris has difficulties understanding social norms and manners. This is a common trait among autistic folks, though this doesn't mean they are incapable of learning. Most learn early on in their childhood, either through special education, therapy, or their own parents, resources that clearly were never available to Chris. He has a habit of burping and farting in his [[Cakefarts|videos]] as well as in [[Anytime Fitness|public]]. The latter got him banned from a gym after they received numerous complaints from other patrons about Chris' constant flatulence (in addition to the constant harassment from [[weens]]). Chris's table manners are also severely lacking; from [[Christopher_Paul_Whitney_reveal|chewing food]] with his mouth wide open to [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|eating spaghetti]] 'like a toddler' while creepily hand-feeding Flutter cake with families around. Chris also has no sense of personal boundaries, and has inappropriately [[Megan emails, 2005-2006|touched]] and [[TooManyGames|kissed]] people even when they explicitly tell him several times not to do so. He tends to make inappropriate remarks without an understanding for time or place, such as doing his [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy|racist]] Apu impression at an Indian restaurant. His other attempts at [[Random-access humor|humor]] are [[Namgge|cringey]] at best and [[Punchy Sonichu|downright offensive]] at worst. He has no problem in addressing a [[DoopieDoOver|stranger]] he only interacted with in a professional setting with nicknames normally reserved for sexual partners. Additionally, Chris often tries to drag people [[My Little Pony voice actresses|he barely knows]] into his drama in a vain attempt to turn them into a personal army against his perceived enemies. Even after it's made abundantly clear, Chris fails to realize that these strangers have better things to do in their life than be a part of some [[slow in the minds|mentally challenged]] manchild's petty grudges and childish zealotry. It is the very reason why even [[My Little Pony|progressive]] and [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|tolerant]] communities lose their patience with Chris. This point in particular is what caused even genuine [[Megan Schroeder|friends]] to throw in the towel on Chris, simply because of how insufferable he is.

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris has problems with authority.''' Despite the cliché that "all girls love [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|bad boys]]", a sensible woman is going to be put off by someone who is in constant trouble with [[Chris and the law|the law]]. Consider that Chris has on [[26 December 2014|two]] separate [[28 October 2011|occasions]] come very close to being sent to jail for several months; this is on top of his other lesser [[List of places that have banned Chris|brushes with authority figures]]. And it's not even as though Chris's attitude stems from him [[Episode 17#Epilogue|fighting for an important cause]] - Chris is willing to risk imprisonment for something as petty as [[Sonic Boom Protests|the color of an animated character's arms]]. Even if Chris does find his elusive sweetheart, few will be able to put up with the constant stream of bans, fines, and jail time brought about by Chris's [[Chris and anger|poor self-control]].

'''9) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be [[Chris and writing|proficient]] [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and art|several]] [[Chris and music|of the arts]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares ''[[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]]'', and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the aforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[2014 house fire|burned to the ground]], the result of him choosing to brew coffee in his bathroom with an extension cable propped over the door. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical and stubborn]] [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He is completely inept when it comes to [[Chris and money|managing money]], meaning any relationship with him will be a [[Financhu Crisis|financial nightmare]]. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''10) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the Internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''[[Honest Content|himself]]'', there are literally [[Affair with Mother|volumes]] [[Death threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween emailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarrassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

'''11) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a children's book to try to get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role of the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] listing [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead, he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could see past these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, and the few "friends" he had were either paid off by his parents or were trolls from the very beginning, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend?

'''13) Chris doesn't care.''' Autistic people are not known to be the most [[Empathy|empathetic]] people, but Chris takes the cake. Chris has demonstrated more often than not his inability to care about anyone or anything, and when he does, it's only for secondary gain, such as attention, or in the case of a female, her [[China]]. Most of the time when people, including his (fake) [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]], talked about their problems with Chris, he would often react nonchalantly and dismissive or bring up unrelated mishaps of his to make their problems look petty in comparison.

As for his own family, it's not any better.

Starting with Cole. When Cole talked about his grievances with their mother and his frustration at her refusal to come clean about his biological father, Chris did not pay attention to anything what Cole wrote and instead asked Cole to vote for him, a middle aged man at the time, to vote for him in some juvenile contest. Only when Cole played along did Chris cooperate, but even then he showed little interest in his own brother's plight.

When his aunt [[Corinna]] died, Chris was more upset that he couldn't enjoy his birthday and munch on some cupcakes, than his aunt dying, who was the only family member who still tolerated Barb and Chris.

Not long after, when it was revealed that Cole married, Chris, instead of working up the empathy to congratulate his brother, made a [[Message for John Kyle|video]] addressed to Cole's brother-in-law where basically tells him what a piece of shit Cole is, straight up denies his mistreatment at Barb's hands, as well as congratulate Cole in a condescending manner.

Bob's death was the only time Chris showed genuine sadness for a time. Although at one point, he admitted to have never loved Bob, but respected him. Well, what is Chris' idea of respecting his own father, to whom he owes his existence and lifestyle? Sell his memorabilia to fund his impulse purchases, have sex with his wife and insult him while he was at it. As for Barb, the person Chris was closest to, not long after the incest fallout, Chris wished her dead, so he can have the house all to himself.

A relationship is a financial ,as well as an emotional investment. If he is incapable of doing the latter with his own family, how will he do it with a partner?

In the end, Chris cares about no one but himself, that's why no one will care about him.

'''14) Chris is economically undesirable.''' Putting aside all the above-listed flaws, what a potential sweetheart really wants from a man is a responsible adult who has something going for him. For starters, Chris only managed to get an [[CADD|Associate]], which became obsolete without him ever putting it to use, choosing to live off his meager [[tugboat]] instead. Chris's only selling point is his art, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. To begin with, his artistic skills are still on the level of an elementary schooler, despite drawing art for most of his life so far. His works, rather than having original ideas, are mostly self-inserts and blatant rip-offs of existing IPs. Additionally, while the content of his drawings are popular with [[trolls]] and [[weens]], the vast majority of people would consider them either [[Sonichu's News Dash|oblique]] or outright [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|disturbing]]. If a woman were to see any of Chris' works, she would run for the hills; [[Megan]] and the [[Gal-Pals]] already had. Had Chris actually utilized his full artistic potential, put the effort into his art, and invented original works, he could've made for a fine freelance artist and even scored among a Sweetheart. Instead, Chris has chosen to waste away the rest of his life, lost in his [[Dimensional Merge|delusions]].

Throughout human history, women are psychologically inclined to mate with men who have the most resources, both material and financial ones. Nowadays, as women can go study, work and make money on their own, they are no longer reliant on men as providers. Nonetheless, the archaic pattern remains and even in modern day society, women will go for men on the same, even higher level of their education and income, such as Doctors, Surgeons, Lawyers, Engineers, IT, or any mid to high level employee. They'll be in no rush to settle down with a greasy, middle-aged shut-in who lives off [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]], much less have children with him.

Ultimately, Chris' social and financial status will inevitably keep him from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

== Present situation ==

[[File:NaiveChrisHedgehog.gif|thumb|right|300px|This is what Chris's break-ups are like.]]

In July 2015,<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sweetheart&diff=188584&oldid=188265 Revision] as of 26 July 2015.</ref> the CWCki originally concluded that no person - male, female or [[Tomgirl Saga|other]] - would likely find him attractive, but there was still a small window of opportunity for Chris to improve his chances of enticing a sweetheart, with a major lifestyle overhaul and some serious self-betterment.

Unfortunately, that window of opportunity has closed: in addition to all the reasons listed above, Chris has given up on reality with the [[Dimensional Merge]]. What little remained of his chances of attracting a sweetheart disappeared in 2018, when Chris ended his [[Love Quest]] by marrying some of his [[Polyamorous marriage|imaginary OCs]], and then [[Love_Quest#Idea Guys influences|declined]] an offer of a date with a female fan cosplaying as him because of his imaginary marriage.

Even ''more'' unfortunately, that window of opportunity had not closed as we once thought it did. in late [[July 2021]], the [[incest call]] was leaked, and the grim truth of Chris's love-life came to the surface. Called "the [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] of the internet" by some, it turned out that Chris had been in a sexual relationship with his mother since at least June of that year. This event adds one last reason for why the chances of Chris getting a sweetheart enormously low: nobody wants to date a literal motherfucker. While there's now [[Flutter|another potential contender for this role]], it seems less and less likely that she will actually take up the mantle.

==References==
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==See also==
* [[List of Love Quest candidates]]
* [[Boyfriend-free girl]]
* [[Gal pal]]
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]
* [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Noviophobia]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

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Power Rangers

2024-10-11T05:52:00Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Power Rangers and Chris */

[[File:Autism Rangers.jpg|thumb|400px|IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!]]
'''''Power Rangers''''' is a multi-decade spanning franchise that adapted the Japanese [[Wikipedia:tokusatsu|tokusatsu]] ''[[Wikipedia:Super Sentai|Super Sentai]]'' series for Western viewers. Debuting on Fox Kids, and produced by Saban Entertainment (with the original ''Sentai'' shows produced by Toei and Bandai), the show centers around a spandex-sporting team of teenagers armed with sophisticated weaponry, gadgets, and giant machines that combine into even bigger machines, who fight aliens and monsters. It was a smash hit when it first aired in the early [[1990's]], and while most of the children who enjoyed the original series have long since grown up, new seasons continue to be produced by Hasbro.

And just like everything else, [[Chris]] got his grubby little hands on them.

== Power Rangers and Chris ==
Not much is known about how much Chris enjoyed the Power Rangers franchise, though it is known that Chris prefers the original ''[[Wikipedia:Mighty Morphin Power Rangers|Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]]'' over the newer series...

{{quote|REVIVE ZORDON AND GET THE POWER RANGERS BACK TOGETHER, WHICH WAS MOST AWESOME!!! (COMPARED TO TODAY'S [[Chris and censorship|C***PY]] "POWER RANGERS")|Excerpt from the [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys (band)|Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]] single "[[Revive Zordon]]", as depicted in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]}}

Ever clouded by [[nostalgia]], Chris is likely either [[naïve|unaware]] that such a reunion would be impossible due to the tragic deaths of [[Wikipedia:Thuy Trang|Thuy Trang]], the original Yellow Ranger, in [[2001]], and [[Wikipedia:Jason David Frank|Jason David Frank]], the original Green Ranger, in [[2022]]; that, or he is simply [[Patti-Chan|in denial about it]]. It also doesn't help that [[Wikipedia:David Yost|David Yost]], who played Billy Cranston (aka the first Blue Ranger) regrets ever being in the series in the first place because of alleged harassment over his [[homos|sexuality]].

Shockingly enough, Chris did get his wish of the original Power Rangers getting back together. Surprisingly on September 30, 2022, David Yost and Walter Jones (who played the first Black Ranger), announced a special called ''Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Once & Always'' for [[Netflix]] that celebrates the franchise's 30th-anniversary, which was released on April 19, 2023. Netflix did not bring back [[Wikipedia:Austin St. John|Austin St. John]], who played the original Red Ranger, or [[Wikipedia:Amy Jo Johnson|Amy Jo Johnson]], who played the original Pink Ranger. Instead Steve Cardenas, Catherine Sutherland, and Karan Ashley who played the second Red, Pink, and Yellow Rangers respectively take their place. Furthermore, the plot of the special does revolve around Billy attempting to revive Zordon (albeit unsuccessfully).

On [[The Wall of Originals]], two hand-made Trainer cards are devoted to the series. The first is a card devoted to [[Wikipedia:Bulk and Skull|Bulk and Skull]], the two [[Trolls|dimwitted bullies]] from the original series who served as effective comic relief.<ref>[[:Image:379-Bulk.jpg]]</ref> The second is a [[Sonichu]] Zord, predating the existence of [[Son-Chu]] by at least nine years. It seems that Chris attempted to make this Sonichu Zord like the popular White Tigerzord,<ref>https://powerrangers.fandom.com/White_Tigerzord#Additional_Formations</ref> but looks less like a transforming machine and more like a whacky villain of the week that would appear in the show. Chris depicts Sonichu's head slapped on its chest, with a dull gray robot head popping up in the first head's place, and its tail being used as a sword.<ref>[[:Image:224-SchuZord.jpg]]</ref> Needless to say, it fails horribly.

In [[September 2024]], a homemade CD-R Chris burned from a cassette copy of ''{{w|Mighty Morphin Power Rangers the Album: A Rock Adventure}}'' was put up for sale on [[Cwclight]]. In the item description, he admits that later seasons did not appeal to him after ''{{w|Power Rangers in Space}}'' (referred to [[Honor roll|erroneously]] as ''"Power Rangers Lost in Space"'') had Zordon's death.

== Power Rangers in ''Sonichu'' ==
[[Image:KartMegazord.jpg|thumb|right|The Kart Megazord - seriously, what the hell?]]
In the [[CWCipedia]]'s article on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]], it is mentioned that Chris was once a member of a Power Rangers team, despite the fact that all the other teams have been from California or outer space. In fact, [[Chris and his Ego|he was the team's leader!]]

It doesn't mention who he fought or what he fought or even what powers he used, but it is said he piloted a go-kart(?) that was "sleek like an [[Wikipedia:Star Fox (series)#Arwing|Arwing]]" and was the head of the so-called Kart Megazord. Sadly (for our sake), Chris disbanded the team before his graduation, but soon installed a new, younger team to take the reins.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170803073843/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens</ref>

(As an interesting aside, Chris pretty much [[Things Chris has ripped off|ripped off]] the go-kart vehicles, the "Kart Megazord" and the graduation disbanding and reforming from one of the earlier seasons of the TV show, namely ''[[Wikipedia:Power Rangers Turbo|Power Rangers Turbo]]'', the American version of ''[[Wikipedia:Gekisou Sentai Carranger|Gekisou Sentai Carranger]]''.)

In [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], [[Allison Amber]] calls in the Power Rangers to fend off an attack by [[Slaweel Ryam]] (or possibly [[CChanSonichuCWC|Liquid Chris]]). The next panel depicts several people rushing off in ridiculous-looking cars. If these are indeed the Power Rangers, they have yet to be seen again.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_9/Page_43 Sonichu 9 p.43]</ref> Near the end of the story, the Kart Megazord makes an appearance, with [[Magi-Chan]] telling Sonichu and Rosechu that the team, now known as the CWC-Power Rangers, used their Megazord to defeat the giant [[B-Manajerk]] and the [[Merried Seinor Comic]]. <ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_9/Page_92 Sonichu 9 p.92]</ref>

In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], to drive those inside the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] Tower out, Chris and the Hedgehog Boys play a song entitled "[[Revive Zordon]]". This [[Chris and music|excellent]] song (which is sung to the tune of [[Wikipedia:Ted Nugent|Ted Nugent]]'s "[[Wikipedia:Cat Scratch Fever (song)|Cat Scratch Fever]]", of all things) features lyrics written by Christian himself. In it, the band laments that the character [[Wikipedia:Zordon|Zordon]] was killed off at the very end of ''[[Wikipedia:Power Rangers in Space|Power Rangers in Space]]'', and demands that he be brought back. The song also serves as a rant against "today's c***py ''Power Rangers''".

Interestingly enough, a few of Chris's other creations seem to derive themselves from various Power Ranger-based villains. The design of [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] character Excelina seems to be cribbed from [[Wikipedia:Machine Empire#Princess Archerina|Princess Archerina]], a minor villain from ''[[Wikipedia:Power Rangers Zeo|Power Rangers Zeo]]''. The most surprising is that [[Silvana]]'s design and origin is directly stolen from [[Wikipedia:Karone|Karone/Astronema]], a major villain turned hero in ''Power Rangers in Space'' who ended up becoming a Ranger herself in ''[[Wikipedia:Power Rangers Lost Galaxy|Power Rangers Lost Galaxy]]''.

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Chris and hypocrisy

2024-09-26T20:51:14Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{quote|You're all just immature, [[naïve]], condescending, soulless monsters. You don't care about others, you only care about yourselves. You only care about getting your own laughs and kicks, because you don't h- you don't have your own social life!|[[Chris]], describing himself.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Z100 0533.jpg|thumb|Chris breaking almost 30 years of proud sobriety due to the influence of ''[[The Simpsons]]''.]]

'''Hypocrisy''' is the act of claiming to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have.<ref>[[wikt:hypocrisy|Wiktionary: hypocrisy]]</ref>

Chris is an accomplished hypocrite, holding others to standards that he himself does not live up to. This is possibly due to the fact that he's incapable of serious introspection and self-examination due to his [[autism]] (but on a more self-inflicted level, his [[ego]]). Chris believes that he is a blameless, [[Chris and religion|holy]] creature that is [[Mary Poppins|practically perfect in every way]]. However, he sees plenty of flaws in the world around him that cause him [[stress]]. He blames all of his problems on external factors like [[trolls]], [[homos]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracies]] or the [[JERKS|entire male population]]. In the past he's faulted the [[Jerkop|police]], [[Manajerks|store managers]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and [[Jerkop|mall security guards]] for complications during his [[Love Quest]]. When Chris can't fault other people for his problems, he relies on autism and stress as fallback excuses.

He's strongly opinionated and drunk on his e-fame, so he sees himself as a [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|role model]] that could change the world. He doesn't necessarily want to change it for the better, but he wants to change the world into one where everyone conforms to his worldview and showers him with praise so he will never again have to [[Chris and stress|feel uncomfortable]], [[Sonic Boom Protests|suffer any inconveniences]], or be forced to actually [[Chris and work|put effort into anything]]. This means arrogantly pointing out the sins of others but never answering to his own, which leads to Chris doling out advice to others that he should be heeding himself.

Chris's [[Mailbag]] answers are particularly rich sources of hypocrisy, where he readily gives advice to people that he himself will never follow.

==Examples==

=== "You grow up!" - Maturity ===
{{quote|You're pitiful! Dang dirty trolls! So get it together! Move out of your basements!|Chris<ref>[[Show RESPECT to me, "C"CWC]]</ref>}}

In the latter half of [[2009]], Chris had become fond of telling his [[trolls]] and detractors to "grow up". This was coming from a 27 year-old who has lived with his parents continually since graduating [[high school]], [[Chris's resume|has only been employed]] for two months of his entire life, lives in a room full of [[toys]], plays [[video games]] all day, refers to things that make him feel uncomfortable with [[CWC-isms|childish euphemisms]], [[Chris and fashion|dresses like a toddler]], [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shits himself]], and is dependent on his parents (and the [[Monthly tugboat|U.S. government]]) to the point of absurdity.

Chris has not moved on past high school. In his 30s, he still wears his [[high school ring]], uses his old high school colors in [[art]] projects (and when he wants to portray [[Cherokian Clan|Native Americans]]), and keeps his high school yearbooks within easy reach. Chris's characters are examples of this as well. Despite ostensibly being 18–22 years old, the [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] sometimes don [[:Image:MegagiDecay.jpg|cheerleading outfits]] outside of sexual roleplay and, like him, are rarely gainfully employed. Aged 27, Chris dispensed [[CWC Blog|dating advice]] to high school freshman. A master of subtlety, Chris named one of the villains in his comics "[[Count Graduon]]" in reference to his much hated [[Manchester High School#Graduation|high school graduation]].

There is also a chance that Chris, just as it is the case with the word "[[naïve]]", has been called out on his stupid bullshit numerous times with the command "grow up", and as a result views the phrase as a very harsh insult meant to be used on your enemies.

In short, Chris idealizes his youth while demonizing the present, as high school was a simpler time when he had a [[Gal-pals|social circle]], [[Biological clock|regular sleep patterns]], and some purpose in life apart from playing video games and debasing himself on the Internet.

==="Spamming actual hate speech (Get A Job)" - [[Work]] ===
{{quote|I say move on; GET A JOB, DUDE.|Chris<ref name="mail7">[[Mailbag 7]]</ref>}}
[[Image:TwofacedCWC.jpg|thumb|"No, I am not being two-faced. I have been one-f-, I have been the one-faced this whole conversation."<ref>[[Father Call]]</ref>]]

Chris also likes to tell people to get jobs while he himself has been employed for about two months of his entire life. On his résumé, Chris lists playing [[Pokémon]] cards with small children as volunteer work. Chris [[Father Call|sometimes claims]] he was supervising or babysitting the children involved, where in reality Chris himself required some amount of supervision not to fuck up the [[The Game Place|hobby store]] where he played [[card games]].

Much like how acclaimed author [[Wikipedia:J. K. Rowling|J. K. Rowling]] went on benefits for a year or two so she'd have the time to write the first ''[[Harry Potter]]'' book (a franchise which went on to make her one of the richest women in the world), Chris avoids searching for employment to focus on merchandising ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]''. And that takes an hour or two at most: Chris will draw and color a comic page or two, make videos, or astonish [[Charlottesville]] residents with his [[Sonichu's Edge|Parkay]] skills in a bizarre marketing stunt. The rest of Chris's time is apparently spent playing [[List of Chris's games|video games]], [[Adult Swim|watching TV]] and [[List of Chris's PSN game downloads|downloading]] extra content for his video games. Chris has an abundance of free time where he could easily work a full-time job and still find the time to draw ''Sonichu''. That is, if Chris were employable.

In addition to this, Chris fails at having some basic skills one would need to keep employment, such as: keeping his [[Death threats|murderous rage]] in check, maintaining [[Chris and health#Hygiene|basic hygiene]], [[Chris and fashion|dressing appropriately]], showing tolerance and respect for [[Chris and race|other people]], and [[Megan Schroeder|keeping his hands off women]].

=== "These busses are full of nutty 'slow-in-the-minds.'" - Other people with mental disabilities ===
{{quote|yeeeeeah... generally, I do not feel comfortable associating with other autistic people, especially the non-high-funcional; it would be like looking through a window to hell to me.|Chris <ref name="irc1708">[[IRC (17 December 2008)]]</ref>}}

While happily claiming disability when it suits him (i.e. when he gets [[money]] and/or [[White knights|sympathy]] from it), Chris gladly reminds everyone that he's a (high-functioning) [[autistic]]. However, Chris distances himself from others with autism, calling them "[[slow-in-the-minds]]" and "windows to hell."<ref name="irc1708" /> Chris specifically excluded "the low functionally mentally handicapped," "the [[Chris and health|seriously physically deformed]]," and the "Autistic, high-functionally or otherwise" from an actual list of criteria women would have to meet before he would consider dating them. By his own admission, Chris is "sometimes retarded"<ref>[[Mumble 9.5]]</ref> and is abnormally proud that he is on the autism spectrum. In fact, right below his rigorous standards for his future girlfriend, he admits that he himself is autistic but claims "[[Ego|that's another story]]."

Chris denies that any of his Sonichu characters are autistic. Yet they're all copyright-infringing little Mary Sues who need to be in the [[Dating education|special classes]] Chris thought up and every so often display debilitating social anxiety around the opposite sex. Back when Chris made his own Pokémon cards, he thought up an "autistic Pokémon" named Plautistic (who could disable its own attacks), but this only appears on the cover of ''[[Christian's Favorite Hits!]]'' and nowhere else.

In the [[Mailbag]]s, Chris dismisses any similarity between autism and [[Asperger's syndrome]], another disorder on the autism spectrum. Chris went so far as to create a specific section for autism-related emails, and then a [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|frothing rant on CWCipedia]] where he rails against those with Asperger's syndrome. The abridged version of Chris's reasoning is that by having a higher-functioning form of autism than Chris, they're diminishing Chris's own accomplishments. Chris considers [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|everything he's done so far]] special because he has autism. To date, the only things Chris has actually accomplished are graduating from high school and a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|third-rate community college]], which most people could do with little effort.

Despite likening the mentally handicapped to reanimated walking corpses, Chris bases a large part of his identity around having autism, whether he's triumphing over it by being able to [[Chores|mow a lawn]] or he's using it as an excuse to sit around and play ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' all day. Incidentally, this behavior is actually somewhat common with teenage girls with bipolar disorder (real, self-diagnosed or imagined), where they'll brag about how terribly bad their bipolar disorder is, how much lithium they're on, and so forth. Most grow out of it by the time they're eighteen.

Inversely, while Chris has repeatedly displayed intolerance of other autistics (and special-needs folks in general), he has also outright accused [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|some]] [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked_out_of_English|authority]] [[Michael Snyder|figures]] of discrimination towards autistics due to incidents that negatively impacted ''[[Chris and his ego|him]]'' in some way, even going so far as to [[Greene County Conspiracy|machinate a belief that a local school board conspired with a game store manager to ruin his life]].

=== "I'll pray for you to open your mind" - Tolerance ===
{{quote|...obviously you have not opened your mind to all things in life, and your religion is a closed-minded one.|Chris, shortly after condemning homosexuality<ref name="mail7" />}}

It's very much in Chris's interests that others tolerate him and his odd behavior. Chris's life is defined by mannerisms that can charitably be described as unorthodox. His autism certainly shapes some of his lesser quirks, but he's also picked up some very strange ideas. He thinks it's normal for adults to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shit their pants]] on a routine basis, and he found nothing strange about jerking off into a [[fapcup|cup]] and [[recycling|chugging it down]]. He once uploaded a [[YouTube]] video where he [[The Return of Kimmi|made out with a sex doll]] with a picture of his sweetheart taped to its face because he thought it was an endearing act that his sweetheart would want to see. He had a store clerk [[Muscle bra|fit him for a bra]] that he wears happily. He uses his [[Sonichu (comic)|children's comic]] to express and explore his [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|sexual fantasies and desires]], and to mete out [[Sub-Episodes|harsh]], sometimes [[Sonichu 10#Forgiveness...?|lethal punishment]] on his perceived antagonists. And he's [[Captain's_Log%2C_Stardate_April_28th%2C_2009#Watch|made statements]] to indicate he's [[Chris and Remorse|not ashamed]] of these actions, regardless of what anyone says.

So in order to continue to do whatever he wants to do and not be made fun of, he explains these things away by essentially saying, "everyone does it and you should still consider me normal," even though he'd probably be hard-pressed to name another guy his age that shits himself as much as he does. Deep down, he probably knows some of these things are fucked up, but finds living up to the standards of society to be a huge inconvenience. So he expects others to change their perceptions so that they can accept him and all of the things he doesn't want to change. In instances where someone might think he's a weirdo, Chris preaches tolerance and insists others open their minds to different ideas and not be so judgmental.

However, this doesn't work both ways with Chris. Chris wants people to open their minds to his foibles, but once he's made up his mind that a group of people are doing things that he considers negative, suddenly tolerance goes out the window and he will refuse to show them even the slightest amount of respect and acceptance.

An example of Chris not accepting others came about during the aforementioned war in his mind being waged against Asperger's syndrome. [[Mailbag 7|When a fan mail submission]] pointed out how stubborn it was to close his mind to documented facts about Asperger's syndrome, Chris refused any concessions, though in the very next letter he berated someone for following what he called a closed-minded religion and said he'd pray for her to open her [[china|mind]].

In another example, Chris is sickened by the idea of [[homos]]exuality and [[Captain's_Log%2C_Stardate_February_5th%2C_2009#Take_2|can't even bring himself to say the word "gay"]], though he will say the word "homo" if he's using it as an insult. He's gone on record as saying he [[CWC Update 30 January 2009|hates gay people]], [[Megan_E-mails#Chris_is_angry_about_Megan_kissing_her_friend.2C_then_pities_himself|is afraid of them]], and would outlaw them if he had the power to do so. Chris has [[Mailbag_1#The_cure_for_homosexuality|envisioned a future where scientists have created a cure for being gay]], and has incorporated this idea into [[Sonichu 10|issue ten]] of his kiddie comic strip. This immense hatred burns deep within him despite the fact that only one supposedly gay person (his [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|elementary school]] principal)<ref name="Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8">[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8]]</ref> had done anything negative to him in his entire life, until [[Jack Thaddeus]] began to interact with Chris. Though in contrast (as far as Chris is aware) Jack was also the person providing Chris with free hosting for the [[CWCipedia]], which at least makes up for some degree of harassment he has given Chris. It was only later that he'd been led to believe that [[Clyde Cash]] was gay as well. He'd stated to [[Megan]] that he had these feelings about gays even before he met her gay friend Christopher (whom he illogically suspected of trying to sleep with Megan). He simply hates them because they exist, and has refused to tolerate them all his life. Despite his past fervor, he has stated that he "(does) and will NOT Discriminated homosexuals as Individual People" and that "What they do behind closed doors is None Of My Business, and I still Do Not Care to know a Damn Thing about it."<ref>[[Common Questions#1 January 2010|Common Questions, January 2010]]</ref> Which is why he employs an [[Magi-Chan|omniscient being]] to [[Mailbag 31#Magi-Chan knows when you fuck|spy on people and punish them]] for what they do behind closed doors. Which brings us to...

=== "I shoved them up my ass" - Homosexuality ===
{{quote|While effeminancy is true for us, I feel the contents of that page (the Wikipedia page on "effeminacy") is against us, due to it addressing the homos.|Chris<ref>[[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]]</ref>}}

Chris is resolute in his beliefs that [[homos]] are an abomination before GodJesus. But he does make exceptions if the gay person has a [[china]]. During an [[IRC (02 January 2009)|IRC Chat]] he granted lesbians complete amnesty, saying that if he were in charge, it would be "illegal and forbidden to have homo Men; women are safe." When pressed on why it's okay for women to be gay and not men, he fell back on his "all men are [[JERKS]]" defense by saying, "it's bad enough they're mostly jerks, plus homo men are AGAINST God's will." However, later that month in a [[Mumble_1#Gays.2C_lesbians_and_men_in_general|Mumble chat]], he softened his stance on whether or not it's okay for women to be gay by saying he would "100% discourage" gay men, but for gay women, he will "partial courage." While Chris often quotes the Bible when explaining his hatred of homosexuals, when pressed about his own abominations he will go into a confusing rant about how God only wants people to be happy and not worry about a myriad of rules. In a stunning display of hypocrisy, Chris is quite adamant to others that he is not wrong in ignoring any Old Testament verses against pornography or masturbation, as the Old Testament is "more for Jewish people," but the one Old Testament passage regarding homosexuality that he heard on ''[[Family Guy]]'' is still valid.

In his [[Date Ed#Chris Chan’s Heroic Dream for Our Community NOW and in the Future|essay about]] his utterly [[Slow-in-the-Minds|retarded]] idea for [[dating education]], he claims that homosexual relations are "unnatural", [[Honor roll|despite over 300 species of animals]], including [[May 2015 Facebook posts#Did I Forget to Tell You About the Bonobos?|bonobos]], practicing it. Apparently, there is only one species that practices homophobia. Go figure.

In the world of ''Sonichu'', the villainous [[Reldnahc]] is gay, but the [[Heather Iglesias|nanny for Sonichu and Rosechu's kids]] is also gay. She's on the side of good because she's a lesbian, though she's been instructed to keep her [[Silvana|trap]] shut about it. [[Mailbag 4#In which Chris is rude to a young girl|A fan letter]] confronted Chris with the hypocrisy of having lesbians in the comic despite his viewpoints and fine Christian morals. While Chris answered parts of the letter, he conveniently ignored that point. Likely, Chris makes this exception because it would be difficult for him to [[mass debating|fap]] to all the [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|lesbian porn]] he watches and not feel conflicted.

He also will make exceptions if gays do voices in his [[LittleBigPlanet|favorite video games]]. A member of his [[Monty Python|favorite comedy troupe]] was gay, though it's not clear if Chris knows that. But it does seem clear that whether it's porn, TV or video games, as long as Chris is entertained by a gay person, Chris somehow exempts them from the abomination rule.

His hatred towards gays and everything they stand for contrasts very sharply to some of his actions. Chris has no qualms with drinking his own [[semen]], and has said he would even go as far as [[Kacey Phone Call|licking his semen off his beloved]]. He's admitted to being plagued by [[Mailbag 4|homoerotic thoughts]]. He loves [[rainbow]]s and has frequently put them in his comics. Chris liked the PS2 game ''[[Wikipedia:Katamari Damacy|Katamari Damacy]]'' enough to quote it in some of his videos, a game that features a character wearing a flamboyant ensemble that shows off his huge [[Pickle|schlong]] clearly visible through his tights. He once referred to himself as coming [[IRC (20 January 2009)|"out of his autistic closet."]] He loves gay anthems, such as "[[Chris's Big Night Out|I Love the Nightlife]]," and listens to music that is also iconic with gay men, such as the [[Wikipedia:Backstreet Boys|Backstreet Boys]] and [[Britney Spears]]. He loves romantic comedy films and even owns a copy of the ''Sex and the City'' movie. Chris also practices [[Tomgirl Pictures|crossdressing]] and shoves [[Sex toys|things]] up his ass.<ref>[[Bluespike PSN Chat 3]]</ref> That should say enough about this matter.

In short, many gay men don't act as gay as Chris does sometimes, but he still feels justified at leveling his disapproving scorn at them.

=== "No female soul whatsoever" - Transphobia ===
While Chris has requested that people respect his identity change after coming out as [[transgender]], he has not demonstrated this same courtesy to another transgender person on one occasion - while under the [[manipulation]] of troll character [[Jeff/Francine]], a purported transwoman, Chris used her deadname (Jeff). He also mocked the status of Francine's gender transitioning and called her a "lady-man".<ref>[[Doxing_Jeff/Francine]]</ref> Soon after, he used masculine pronouns to describe Francine, said that she was "no woman", and mocked the fact that she went through a gender reassignment surgery, [[Chris and his ego|while also boasting about his own progress in transitioning]] (despite the fact that he looks largely the same as he did pre-transition, only growing his hair out and looking more bloated than usual).<ref>[[I Am me; He is not]]</ref>

In spite of this, the Jeff/Francine example has proven to be an anomaly, as Chris has used preferred pronouns and identities of other transgender people, such as the MTF violet4151<ref>[[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To]]</ref> and [[Miss Cherry]], and the FTM Lukas of the [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]].

=== "You thieving impostor!" - Chris's creations ===
{{quote|Jack Thaddeus... is wrongfully advertising his FAN FICTION, and I emphasize fan fiction, and parodic [[Asperchu]]|Chris, the TRUE AND HONEST creator of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], complaining about fan fiction.<ref name="dwasperchu">[[Down with Asperchu]]</ref>}}

Chris is extremely protective of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and the whole [[Sonichu (comic)|media franchise]] he has created.

If Chris had actually shown any originality, this wouldn't really be a problem: he'd have full rights to do whatever he wants with his own original creations. As [[Chris and copyright|discussed elsewhere]], however, Chris has neither the rights to Sonichu nor an original work.

Fundamentally, Chris's creations are a bizarre maelstrom of various fan fiction elements with various bits stolen from a [[Things Chris has Ripped Off|great number of sources]]. Chris has outright admitted that he steals material from various shows.<ref>[[Common Questions#Answered 28 December 2009|Common Questions, December 2009]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 35#In which Chris tells us that we need to go look up what he stole from|Mailbag 35]]</ref> At the same time, he claims that Sonichu is an original creation and has no problems dictating how people are allowed to use it.<ref name="dwasperchu" /> In short, he demonizes other works as "fan fiction" while failing to appreciate that ''Sonichu is fundamentally fan fiction, too'' – he is unable to see that the "fan" creations were created through the ''exact same process'' he himself used. Chris has sheltered himself from this realization by calling Sonichu a [[parody]], but shows no appreciation of other creations which he has labeled as parodies of his own work. One particularly glaring example of this double standard comes in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], where Bugs Bunny scolds [[Jimmy Hill]] for using Chris's characters without permission, never mind the fact that Chris is doing the exact same thing by appropriating Bugs in such a way.

Since ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' allows reusing certain content, Chris also took a number of competently made designs in ''LittleBigPlanet'' and used them in his own levels – [[Download For Play Only|only to tell people not to do the same with his levels]] when the policy was changed and all levels were made downloadable and editable offline.

=== "I WILL Video Record the Whole Thing and Upload it onto RedTube" - Privacy ===
{{quote|Daniel Mimms knows a LOT about me. I have divulged a number of juicy stories with him during our card games. Do not believe his denial of any knowledge or association with me.|Chris, encouraging people to troll his former friend. <ref>[[Daniel_Mimms#Facebook|Facebook posts]]</ref>}}

In the Mailbags, Chris describes [[CWCville]] as a place where homosexuality is forbidden by law. This is enforced by [[Magi-chan]], who uses his psychic abilities to monitor all citizens at all times. Offenders are then ''fined US$500''.

Several days later, Chris used the ''Sonichu'' comic to rail against celebrity news website [[Wikipedia:TMZ.com|TMZ.com]] for invading the privacy of his Electric Hedgehogs, who are apparently as interesting and noteworthy as actual celebrities. TMZ was depicted as a floating, all-seeing movie camera that spied on Rosechu putting in a tampon, Sonichu and Rosechu reenacting a bondage scene from ''[[Family Guy]]'', and [[Robbie Sonee]] describing unusual interactions with a lizard.<ref>[[:File:SchuComic10P36.jpg]]</ref> This could possibly stem from Chris being unfavorably featured on local news with a [[I Got A Fish|video]] of his.

Chris also stated during correspondence with his Wiki SysOp that he would go as far to [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The_Introduction_Image_Space_is_NOT_Ad_Space_(CCS)|distribute a video]] of himself having sex with a woman, recorded using hidden cameras, to prove his heterosexuality. When later pressed on this being a blatant invasion of privacy, Chris covered himself by stating that he would [[Mailbag 31#In_which_Chris_crosses_yet_another_line|blur the participating woman's face]], and upon further questioning changed his proposal to [[Mailbag 34#Chris_would_find_someone_okay_with_being_filmed_to_take_his_"virgin cherry branch"|involve a woman]] actually willing to participate.

Although Chris originally lost his shit when [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]] released a candid photograph of him at [[The GAMe PLACe]] to the Internet, he had no qualms about walking into the same store (a privately owned establishment that he had been permanently banned from) and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|surreptitiously recording an audio conversation]] without the [[Michael Snyder|other party's]] consent. Chris later spread the audio in an attempt to gain sympathy, missing the irony completely. He later [[6 June 2010|tried to take a photograph of that same person]], but was stopped when he noticed Chris outside with a camera. A little over a year later, he would [[28 October 2011|return to this very store]] and take more pictures of the man without his consent, with the incident finally ending in his arrest for hit and run. Even afterward, Chris has not learned at all; he posted on his [[Facebook]] a rapidly taken photo of an angry woman for giving him a "difficult time."

[[File:Facebook post 9 June 2012.png|thumb|right|150px|Quite possibly a troll.]]
While eating at a [[McDonald's]] restaurant, an employee of Burger King spotted Chris, acknowledged him, then went to mess with his cell phone. Chris went into panic mode, assumed that the worker was actually a troll, then thought the man was "communicating with his own kind" by hopping on a forum. He then proceeded to photograph the man, and talk about him behind his back on Facebook, ironically doing what he feared the 'troll' would do to him.

=== "He sets me on fire!" - Slander ===
[[Image:BurnedMySeat.jpg|thumb|left|Chris, March 2008: [[You know what, I HATE ME TOO!!!|"I set my ASS ON FIRE!"]] Chris, January 2010: [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|"He sets me on fire!"]]]]
It is evident to the readers of ''Sonichu'' that Chris uses the comic to settle his conflicts in real life. Every time he felt wronged by someone, he incorporated them into the comic and had his main hero (an idealized vision of himself) beat them up.

The main victim of this treatment was [[Mary Lee Walsh]], the Dean of Student Affairs at the [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]. Because she "Dared" interrupt Chris in his [[Love Quest]] on the grounds of the college, Chris launched himself into a ridiculous one-sided feud against her and included her as the main villain in his comic. He gave the same treatment to many people who had [[Stress|frustrated]] him. The list includes a [[Bagget|police officer]] called in to evict him from a [[Target]] store, various store [[Jerkop|security]] [[Jerkhief|guards]] and [[Manajerks|managers]], romantic [[Wes Iseli|rivals]], old [[CADD Chef|teachers]] and even [[Joseph Herring|fellow students]] only because they were popular with the girls.

This wouldn't be a problem if it was contained in the comic itself or was used for comedic effect. Anyone free to make an educated guess would say that Chris uses artistic license to overcompensate for his weaknesses in real life. This, however, disregards many [[Death threats]] he issued to individuals on the net. [[Jack Thaddeus]] and [[Clyde Cash]], two well-known antagonists of Chris, were berated (without success) to [[To Clyde and Jack|commit suicide]]. In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], they throw themselves down a 72-story elevator shaft. [[Jason Kendrick Howell]], the creator of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page regarding Chris's antics, not only received [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|cryptic messages]] from Chris, but saw his own character [[Sonichu 8#The Clarksville Address|left for dead in a pool of his own blood]] after being battered by [[Rosechu]]'s [[Pickle|genitalia]]. After a [[Liquid Chris#Showdown|long feud]] with [[Liquid Chris]], he issued [[NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!|death threats]] and tried to steal his [[Kacey|girlfriend]]. When this failed, he made a [[Sonichu Special 4|comic]] of him shooting Liquid in the shins after disarming him. When Kacey asked him why this was depicted in the comic, he answered that it wasn't that bad [[Kacey and Liquid Call|since he barely shot him in the legs]].

Chris strongly disapproves of this method of expression when he's on the receiving end of it. When [[Down with Asperchu|he attacked]] Alec Benson Leary for the creation of [[Asperchu]], Alec had no scruples about putting him in front of the [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/23109 business end of a flamethrower]. Chris retaliated with a [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|long video]] where he called the attack made on him "horrendous" and vowed that the [[Patti Chandler|spirit of his dead dog]] would avenge him. He would later cap off Sonichu 10 with a graphic depiction of Alec's execution, but not before mentioning the fiery incident one more time.

While Chris rallies against people making accusations of him on the internet (even those of which are true) Chris has no problem accusing others of the most horrible things imaginable. In the [[Calling Out#Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|Calling Out]] series, Chris blatantly accuses [[Michael Snyder]] of ''molesting his own daughter''. This is in direct contrast with Chris's [[Sonichu 10|comic]] where he illustrates clearly how he's ready to travel in the future and hoodwink his "to-be" [[Lovely Weather|wife]] into having sex with him. If we add a song [[IPods Down and Listen Up|he wrote and performed]] describing him in the act of [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|sexually assaulting]] a [[Niggos|black woman]], it hardly makes Chris a paragon of puritanical virtues.

==="Sonichus in the basement" - [[Alec Benson Leary]]===
Chris is not only hypocritical in the rage he feels when someone makes an [[asperchu|unlicensed parody]] of his unlicensed parody, but he believes that doing so is against the wishes of the characters and [[chris and reality|hurts their feelings somehow]]. However him literally [[January_2021_social_media_posts#Bodyswap_announcement|taking over the body of Sonichu and dressing it in drag]] to the explicit discomfort of Sonichu is okay. Obviously, the entire thing is made up but it's real to Chris and therefore still counts.

==="Well-Informed to Expert in sex" - Women===
Chris's hypocrisy is also evident within the astronomically-high standards for a "[[sweetheart]]" that he's published at various times in his life, such as on the [[attraction sign]]. Some of the biggest offenders are:

"Must Have a Mid to high salary." Chris does not have a job, has no prospects for a job, and lives on [[monthly tugboat|welfare checks]], yet any woman he dates must be gainfully employed, presumably so Chris can [[Chris and money|squander]] her money on [[List of Chris's games|video games]] and [[sex toys]]. Chris doesn't seem to be aware that statistically, women prefer men on the same or higher level of income than them.

"Must be average to slender body size." Chris is an [[obesity|obese]], lazy slob, yet demands that any potential sweetheart that he deigns to give his attention to be thin and cute.

"Must not have [[autism]]." Despite the fact that Chris has made being autistic a huge point of pride, he absolutely refuses to consider any girl with the same condition on the grounds that he fears that seeing them will make him think about what he might be like if he had anything other than high-functioning autism.

==="I would have them ESS-acuted!" — Capital Punishment===

Chris has made it known in his mailbag that he is [[Common Questions#30 January 2010|opposed to the death penalty]]. However, in [[9 February 2010|02092010.MOV]], after the CWCipedia was taken offline, he ranted that he wanted to see Alec, Evan, and Mao [[Death threats|executed]]. The implication of this is that serial murderers deserve clemency but people who try to stop Chrissy from [[simonla|stealing intellectual property]] deserve capital punishment.

Chris later carried out these executions within the pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], hypocritically, '''as he listed off all the ways in which he had wronged them.'''

Capital punishment became the subject of two videos over the next year. The first video was [[05142010]], in which Chris showed us that he thinks twenty years of menial labor is a suitable punishment for murdering a woman in real life. This is, of course, two and a half months after he revealed that he thought genital mutilation via a large drill was an appropriate response to forcing him to stop using a comic character that he had stolen in the first place. The second video was [[DivineTrial]], in which Chris acted out a pretend trial for [[Clyde Cash]], using a [[Shadow the Hedgehog]] doll to stand in for Clyde. The trial was eerily similar to the trial of the Asperpedia Four in the comic, and ends with Clyde's execution via gunshot for the crime of cyberbullying, although this time Chris also includes that his [[PandaHalo|wife]] and child would be [[women's rights|given to]] another man, as appointed by the government.

==="I would never do blood and gore. That's just gross" - Mature content===
[[File:Evan'sDeath.JPG|thumb|Pictured: Blood and gore.]]

Chris has severe problems understanding media with mature themes, or, to be specific, media with [[Chris and death|death]]. It appears that Chris rails heavily against video games that are rated Mature or higher, and realistic depictions of death in fiction "sadden" him.<ref name="Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8"/> Furthermore, Chris has said a number of times in videos and mailbags that his comics will never feature excessive violence and gore. For a long time, Chris took great pains to avoid showing outright death in his comics. [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] was claimed to be kept alive by "dark forces", and [[Liquid Chris]] was [[Sonichu Special 4|shot in the legs]], as a sort of attempt at a nonlethal shooting. The deaths of [[PandaHalo]] and [[Ivy]], while horrific, were both not actually shown, so it was almost as though Chris was keeping his word.

Blatant outright hypocrisy on this matter finally surfaced in the last few pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. He broke this promise in a spectacularly graphic manner, with the (court sanctioned) deaths of the [[Asperpedia]] staff. Alec and Sean were killed by the electric chair and firing squad, respectively. The deaths of Evan and Mao were particularly severe offenders. Evan was shackled to a wall and mutilated with drills for an indeterminate amount of time before being apparently blasted to death by Wild and Sandy. This included cutting off both of his legs, one of his arms, a series of deep cuts to his torso, and ''genital mutilation via a giant drill''. Mao had his arms and legs telekinetically forced to bend in the wrong direction, causing the snapped bones to rip through his skin. As he lay on the ground, Chris telekinetically burst his heart.

Chris also has difficulties understanding other mature themes, such as sex and profanity. Chris claims that [[Mailbag_20#Chris_considers_his_audience|his comic is equivalent to a TV-Y7 program]], which according to broadcast standards would mean no sexual content or innuendo whatsoever, even if censored. However, ''Sonichu'' is loaded with sex, pornography, and innuendo, but Chris says it's okay because [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|he puts stickers over genitalia]]. When asked about all of the sex and violence via mailbag, Chris blamed the FCC.<ref>[[Mailbag_51#The_recent_explosion_of_pornography_in_TV-Y7_cartoons_is_not_Chris.27s_fault|Mailbag 51]]</ref> Chris has stated that [[Mailbag 47#Children will be seeing furry porn in real life|showing kids pornography]] is just a way to educate them on things they're going to eventually see. When it comes to profanity, another thing people learn as they become adults, Chris censors swear words (including vaguely offensive words that most kids are allowed to say, such as "damn" and "crap") and scolds others for using them. ''Sonichu'' #10 reveals that profanity may be a capital crime.

==="I am removing myself from the Internet" - Leaving the Internet forever ===
{{quote|I REALLY DO NOT LIKE HOOKING UP ONLINE; IN-PERSON OR BUST FOR ME.|Chris<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2010]]</ref>}}
On the afternoon of 21 March 2010, Chris announced he was [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|leaving the Internet]] for good with a [[Chris and ego|pompous and bombastic]] speech about how the Internet was trivial and unimportant and everyone should go outside and socialize, and stated that the social networking capabilities of the Internet were a [[Pokémon|stupid fad]] which was long since over. Chris acknowledged that putting his [[Dox|personal information]] on the Internet was a bad idea ([[Little_Big_Planet#The_Guardian_of_the_Owl_Kingdom|one]] of [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|many]]), and promised he would no longer upload Sonichu comics or interact with trolls, online or by phone. He resolved to get the Sonichu comics published and interact with real people in his [[Charlottesville|community]].

On the evening of 22 March — about a day and a half later — he uploaded a short video where he claimed that he was still depressed, and then went on to state his disapproval with a new voice actor on [[Family Guy]] spin-off ''[[The Cleveland Show]]'' and demanded that the old voice actor resume the role. Chris might be excused for breaking his promise to make a video announcing a major life change, like a [[Bob Chandler|death in the family]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|returning to school]], [[Wendy's|finding gainful employment]], or even giving an [[Chris and remorse|actual apology]] to a [[Megan Schroeder|former friend]] he offended with [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|his behavior]]. Instead, Chris chose to make a video simply for the sake of making a video complaining about something inconsequential that didn't affect his life in any way.

As well, Chris keeps posting more and more videos afterward. When he does, he makes the same claim - that he is "distancing himself from the Internet". However, distancing himself from the Internet is certainly not the same as leaving the Internet. He's still on there, even when he's playing on the PSN.

Although he did stop posting videos for a while after [[Bob]]'s death, he remained active online, most visibly posting to [[Facebook]]. That all changed, however, when Chris uploaded [[I Love You, Catherine|a surprise video]] in [[October 2014]].

==="Now she's with a real man" - Romantic rivalry===
{{quote|...you know my address, right? You got MapQuest to come all the way over? |Chris, trying to entice a woman to cheat on her boyfriend.<ref>[[Kacey Call 1]]</ref>}}
One thing consistent in his [[Love Quest|efforts to get laid]] is his lamenting of women who are already in stable relationships. He, by default, hates all other [[JERKS|men]] simply because women have the option of being with any one of them over him. When he believes he's found a [[sweetheart]], he's [[Megan Emails, Aug-Dec 2007#Chris wants to know why she sat on Christopher's lap|insecure]] and [[Media:291-ACWesBck.jpg|jealous]] that [[Man in the Pickle Suit|someone]] will try to take her away.

And yet at the same time, he has no problem in attempting to sabotage [[Kacey|other people's relationships]] and [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|taunting]] [[New Address|former boyfriends.]]

==="I really feel offended when they get soo flamboyant with their ways..." - Flamboyancy===
[[Image:TG20.jpg|thumb|Hear that, homos? Chris is offended by your flamboyance!]]

When Chris's activities on the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum were revealed, it was no surprise that he had gone on one of his usual tirades against homosexuals, saying that it's like homos are shoving their flamboyancy in your face. Consider for one minute that, on that same forum, Chris had openly admitted that he has [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Girly Things Tee Hee|recently been using the women's washroom]], and even on one occasion had someone complain about him and was likewise shouted at. So not only is Chris cavorting about in women's clothing in public on a regular basis, he has now taken to using the improper washroom, much to the chagrin of those around him. Call Chris's new found behavior what you will: closet homosexuality, a desperate plea for attention, symbolically castrating himself to subconsciously evoke his frivolity, or getting in touch with his 'feminine side' (as he calls it). Whatever it is, he sure as hell is shoving it in people's faces.

What is surprising, though, is how quickly two-faced Chris can get. When trying to [[Calling Out|expose]] [[Jack Thaddeus]], he revealed that not only was he transsexual, but also having gone through a sex change and was using it to go after guys. While Chris was supportive of being a "fellow Tomgirl", he wasn't supportive of the fact that he was going after guys. Consider the fact that, at one time, Chris stated that he would rather have a sex change than be gay. Thus, to Chris, having a sex change is still fine and dandy only if you're going after [[china]].

==="If you are not careful, you really are going to go to jail." - Law===

Chris often attempts to get trolls in trouble with the law, claiming they should be given prison sentences for (sometimes completely legal) acts that [[Chris_and_the_Law#Law_troubles|he himself has also committed.]]

After watching YouTube videos posted by [[Liquid Chris]], Chris threw a [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|childish fit]] in which he threatened to call authorities because Liquid was impersonating him. He, however, had no qualms claiming to be Liquid to try to trick [[Kacey]] into [[China|coming over to visit him.]]

When he found out that [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] was dating a girl named [[Kathleen]], Chris accused Howell of statutory rape, as at the time Howell was 20 and Kathleen was 17, either ignoring or oblivious to the fact that several state technicalities might make their relationship entirely legal. Chris later depicts himself winning the affection of 17-year-old [[Meg Griffin]] in [[Sonichu 10]], which he makes no effort to reject.

Chris and his parents have threatened numerous trolls with harassment charges, completely disregarding the fact that [[Love Quest|harassment is what Chris does best.]] Not to mention that, whatever the trolls have done, Chris's [[Death threats|public reactions]] are far more disturbing, violent, and can legally be interpreted as threats to their subjects' safety. Because of his flagrant disregard for [[Mary_Lee_Walsh#Possible_reconciliation|trespassing notices]] and the definition of what the word "banned" means, [[28 October 2011|he was to appear in front of a judge]].

In the third of the [[Calling Out]] videos, Chris has the gall to vaguely tell Surfshack Tito and Thorg that "the police will catch up with [them]" right after expressing the purpose of the series: To blackmail the two of them into sending him cash. In the next video, Chris admitted that these demands are extortion and retracts them, but in the video immediately afterwards, seemed to once again expect the money.

Chris has also expressed hatred of police (even going so far as to coin [[Jerkop|his own disparaging term for them]]) because they dared to take action against his loitering and other things, but that didn't stop him from [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|threatening his trolls that detectives and police would be sicced upon them if they didn't remove their copies of his house tour]]. [[2024|Nearly 15 years later]], Chris similarly [[May 2024 social media posts#Stalker gets caught on security camera|warned of intent to report stalkers if he caught any on the security camera of his newer house]]. Keep in mind that this comes after Chris had spent a year released from jail for [[Affair With Mother|arguably the worst crime he has ever committed]].

==="We do not like to stand under one leader." - Authoritarianism===

In the [[Re-Calling Ahuvia]] video, Chris continues to drop info on fellow lolcow and autistic manchild [http://www.adfki.com/index.php?title=ADF Ahuviya Harel], the man/woman he believed was Jack Thaddeus, mocking him/her for his/her communist views. While Ahuviya is infamous for his/her admiration of the Soviet Union and for understanding very little of the principles of his/her ideology other than as a framing device for his/her violent fantasies, Chris likewise, as a man(child) who [[Chris and religion|does not understand many of the finer points of his own religion other than the bits condemning homosexuality]] [[A Public Announcement for Congress|and believes that the Federal Government just magically pulls welfare money out of its ass]] probably has no idea of what Communism is, other than that it was the ideology of [[China|some people who did some not very nice things in its name]] and that some countries that followed it were on the United States' shitlist at one time or another. This was further evidenced by Chris breaking out the [[Donald Duck impersonation]] and singing "[[Wikipedia:Der Fuehrer's Face|Der Fuehrer's Face]]", despite the fact that Adolf Hitler was not a communist and in fact [[Wikipedia:First they came...|Communists, Trade Unionists, and other leftists were some of the first victims of the Holocaust]].

Perhaps the most ironic part of Chris's sudden condemnation of authoritarianism is, of course, [[CWCville]]. While CWCville was at first mostly just Chris's imaginary hugbox, with places like the [[CWCville Shopping Center]] (held in high regard by Chris, as his mayoral office is located there) showcasing Chris's [[naive]], mindless materialistic and consumerist tendencies. However, as Chris's conflicts with the [[trolls]] escalated, some unpleasant things began to occur. Suddenly, numerous state-funded Soup Hotels for the homeless began to crop up after the city-state's economy apparently collapsed and left thousands upon thousands jobless on the streets. Later on, in particular, during the events of [[Sonichu 10]], Chris began to show signs of being a ruthless dictator, with CWCville as a dystopian nightmare, such as the trial of the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia 4]], who were given no defense, had little evidence of [[Simonla Rosechu|their crimes]] presented, and yet were found guilty and subject to horrific torture and execution at the hands of Chris and his cronies.

While one could argue that CWCville is simply a harmless, childish fantasy that has been corrupted by Chris's reactions to the trolls, Chris [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)|actually believes that it is real]], and, given [[Death threats|some of his reactions to the trolls]], one would do well not to think [[A Girl Who Brought Down the World|what would happen if he actually had that level of power in real life]].

==="Look at his 'slender' figure" - Obesity===
Chris seems to be [[Facial blindness|completely unaware of his own weight]], possibly a result of the self-image he formed over the course of high school. His [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|portrayal of himself in the comics]] is often incredibly flattering in terms of appearance. It once got to the point that the irony of [[Sammy|him writing a "fat" version of himself into the comics]] was completely lost on him. He regularly describes himself as "average" at worst.

And yet, he regularly derides others for their weight, most notably in the [[Calling Out]] series, where, he repeatedly called [[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|Alec]] and [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don|Surfshack Tito]] "fat". He even had the balls to say [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|"[Christopher Paul Whitney]'s fat! Iiiiii'm thin!"]] during the outing of Alec Benson Leary. It's possible he might even have contempt for fat people – during his [[List of Chris's edits to the CWCki#Christianchandler|November 4 edits to the CWCki]] he changed the description of [[Michael Snyder]]'s image to "Michael Snyder, the dirty '''Fat''', child-molesting <s>Jew</s> gentile", adding the emphasis himself. While it might be that he simply does not realize how much his appearance had changed since he was a teen, his constant insulting of other people's weight is a blatant case of self-contradiction.

==="Sonic's arms are NOT blue!!!" - Blue Arms===
[[File:001-Christophers1stSonic.jpg|thumb|200px|"I simply remind everyone that Sonic The Hedgehog's Arms Are Not Freaking Blue!!!"]]
In 2014, Chris began [[Sonic Boom Protests|protesting]] ''Sonic Boom'' due to the relatively minor change of making the famed hedgehog's arms blue instead of their usual fleshy color. Chris's hatred for this insignificant change is so passionate that he [[26 December 2014|actually got himself arrested for assaulting a GameStop employee]] after said employee tried to stop him from vandalizing ''Sonic Boom'' merchandise. However, Chris is guilty of exactly the same thing, because in his first drawing of Sonic the Hedgehog, he is depicted with blue arms. Furthermore, documents were leaked on 12 [[January 2015]], revealing that Chris actually has both ''Sonic Boom'' games; naturally, he felt the need to post a long tirade on his Facebook and claim Catherine sent him a copy.

==="Worrying Mongoose Knows How You Feel!" - Memes===
On 18 [[December 2014]], Chris posted a long tirade on why he hates trolls, as well as a section dedicated to his sheer anger after playing the infamous Nintendo eShop game ''Meme Run'', and his comparing of famous memes in the game to trolls. However, Chris is guilty of using memes, because [[January 2015|the next month]], he posted an image macro featuring Sunil the Mongoose from the 2012 ''Littlest Pet Shop'' series, detailing his feel of worry.

==="Parodies in jest" - Maturity===
In October 2016, Chris [[October 2016 Facebook posts#Pmurt should take parodies in jest|criticized]] then Presidential Candidate [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]], saying that he should have taken "[[Asperchu|a parody]] [[Liquid Chris|of himself]] [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|in jest]]."

==="He is very spiteful" - Spite===
In July 2016, Chris said that [[Pmurt]] "is very spiteful."<ref>[[July 2016 Facebook posts#Christine's Driver's License and Woman's Card|July 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>

In November, upon Pmurt winning the US election, Chris reacted by making multiple [[Eid, Pmurt, Eid|death threats]] and [[Feelings of the election results|prayers]].

==="Womanizing and raping actions" - Sexual Misconduct===
In November 2016, Chris called President-elect [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]] a womanizer and a rapist, in reference to molestation allegations against him. Chris himself has molested [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Catherine|women]], and, unlike Trump, most of [[Megan_emails,_2008#Megan_is_fed_up|these incidents]] are [[Catherine#The_bowling_outing|well documented]]. Chris doesn't seem to grasp the concept that women aren't into being touched by him. While he bragged to Catherine that he's learned to respect women's personal space after the Megan fiasco, he disproved himself soon after by planting his face into her breasts. However, Chris still thinks Trump's sexual misconduct is enough to justify his [[Death Threats|death prayers]] against the President-elect.

In 2018, Chris unconsensually kissed people on the cheek at a [[TooManyGames|convention]] and then, a month later, went on to tell people to not harass him and respect the rules at another [[BronyCon 2018|convention]].<ref>[[BronyCon 2018#Day 1]]</ref>

And his statements aren't the ''only'' time he has railed against someone for (alleged) perverse intent despite his own dirty laundry. For quite a while, he asserted that [[Bruce Johnson|his elementary school principal]] was molesting him and he denounced [[The GAMe PLACe]] for the fact that its owner was a sex offender (even going so far as to baselessly accuse [[Michael Snyder|his then-nemesis]] of being an incestuous pedophile).

As mentioned, he himself has molested various others (and once [[iPods Down and Listen Up|rapped about himself forcibly siring children with a woman trying to elude his sexual advances]]). As for incest accusations, he would later [[Affair with Mother|initiate sex with his elderly mother]].

===Don't end up "as a full-on Super Stereotypical, Spiteful and Egotistical Male" - Kindness===
In January 2017, Chris typed out an [[January 2017 Facebook Posts#Open letter to Barron Trump|open letter to Barron Trump]], in which he urges Barron not to become a "Super Stereotypical, Spiteful and Egotistical [[JERKS|Male]]" like his father, President Trump. This came after two months of Chris [[Pmurt#Death Threats|constantly trying to organize prayers for the elder Trump's death]]. As for [[ego]], Chris spent much of the essay whining about how trolls affected his own life.

==="If people didn’t overspend so much..." - Finances===
In [[May 2019]], Chris commented on an article about excessive spending of public funds by a former EPA chief, criticizing people for overspending. This was only a day after he went to court for [[debt]], a consequence of [[Chris and money#Chris and impulse spending|reckless spending on toys and video games]]. Chris also bemoaned inflation, blaming it on people getting "greedy for the green".

Only three days prior, he sold a dirty old blanket on [[eBay]] for $200,<ref>[[2019 Sales Listings#Rainbow Pride Throw Blanket|2019 Sales Listings]]</ref> which is only a minor episode in Chris's [[Financhu Crisis|long history of e-begging]] to sustain the Chandlers' aforementioned habit of wasting funds on useless garbage.

==="Break your own Fourth Wall!" - Dimensions===

On [[November 2019]], Chris has made a string of Twitter posts telling people to "break their [[Fourth Wall|fourth wall]]" in order to interact with the OC's living in their home dimensions. The term "[[OC]]" is what Chris uses to refer to any of the characters found within a cartoon. Chris believes that these characters are all sentient beings with their own consciences and feelings. Fast forward to a few days later, Chris becomes enraged when he sees the promo of [[Pony Life]]. Believing it to be a cartoon along the lines of Teen Titans Go solely due to its art style, Chris began starting rallies against the show on his Twitter account, spamming both Hasbro and people who showed any interest in the show with complaints. He even claims that he desires to kill all of the characters within the show itself by having it cancelled.

=== "Can't we just forgive and forget?" - Forgiveness ===
Every so often, Chris will do something that serves to bother or even negatively impact those around him, be it loitering in a [[Get-Tar Region|retail]] [[Mal-Wart|setting]] to seek out a [[Boyfriend-Free Girl]], [[26 December 2014| assaulting employees of stores he was banned from]], [[Affair with Mother|engaging in sex with his elderly mother]] and so forth. Once he realizes he's in trouble and others have reacted negatively to any of his shenanigans, he'll sometimes [[Chris and remorse|try to serve an apology]] to whichever parties were hurt in the situation. Naturally, Chris's feeble and hollow expression of remorse is quickly denied, at which point he is bound to take such a thing personally.

A good example would be Chris's [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|recording of an attempt to persuade]] [[Michael Snyder]] to revoke his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]]. When Chris's insincerity was point-blank rejected and he was urged to leave, Chris got indignant and pleaded for Snyder to "forgive and forget". Ironically, before and after this incident, Chris had been harboring complete animosity towards Snyder and the store itself to the point where [[28 October 2011|he eventually committed a hit-and-run against the then-newer owner himself]].

Even when [[This is how the Trial went|the case had been taken to court]], Chris refused to let go of his unjustified hatred towards Snyder, such that when informed he was to cover medical expenses (as part of a plea bargain to ensure Chris wouldn't suffer from a criminal record, mind you), he openly referred to the very man who had just arranged to make the case easier for him as 'a thieving liar'.

Even outside of that, Chris isn't really in any position whatsoever to chide others for a lack of forgiveness, considering one of many things he is infamous for is [[Chris and anger|a tendency to fly into extreme rage]] against others for perceived slights and/or attacks on him, sometimes going so far as to unleash [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|a "curse"]] or even [[Jason Kendrick Howell message|desire for them to be killed outright]]. Not just that, but he has even held years-long grudges against the aforementioned Michael Snyder, [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[Megan Schroeder]], all for things that were his own fault in the first place.

It should come as no surprise that even in [[Sonichu (comic)|his magnum opus]], Chris will screw up a message of forgiveness almost immediately after he says it. In [[Sonichu #8]], Rosechu reminds Sonichu of the importance of forgiveness but near the end of the same volume, a single [[Pickle|pickle]] getting thrown at her induces transformation into [[The Incredible Lioness]], whereupon she brutally face-rapes [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] in retaliation.

==Chris on hypocrisy==
{{quote|A: "hypocrite"; [[Chris and English|an adjective]]; 1) to be of a belief while not upholding that belief. 2) a total liar. 3) [[True and Loyal Fanbase|an UNTRUE Fan]]. example: When the Sonichu Fan left Sonichu for [[Asperchu|a newer, yet badly drawn, thing]], after having said that they would always enjoy Sonichu forever, is a hypocrite among the Truest and Loyalest Sonichu Fans.|Chris, on what it means to be a hypocrite}}

In the [[Common_Questions#Answered_20_January_2010|Mailbag questions]], Chris was asked to define "hypocrite." His answer shows that he barely understands the concept, thinks it's some kind of insult (like "naïve" or "benevolent"), and somehow refers to a fan's level of devotion.

Chris's first definition is very broad, and could be used to describe hypocrisy (one's stated beliefs being in conflict with one's actions), but could also be used to describe a general lack of enthusiasm. Under Chris's definition, a homophobe who doesn't take [[Sonichu 10|drastic measures]] to eradicate homosexuality would be a hypocrite.

His second definition is just hyperbole, in the same way someone would throw around "fascist" when not using it to describe an [[CWCville|extreme right-wing authoritarian nationalist]].

Chris's third definition is more of a (failed) example to ''describe'' a hypocrite, and more describes Chris's "if you're not now, you never were" attitude towards fandom. In Chris's mind, he must enjoy all ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' games regardless of quality, and wear and display ''[[Pokémon]]'' merchandise well past an age where that would be considered socially acceptable. Because Chris enjoyed ''Sonic'' and ''Pokémon'' when he was younger, he's not allowed to move on, grow up, and find other, more adult interests.

Chris then went on to rail against Asperchu, and refused to acknowledge the dozens of mailbag letters pointing out examples of his hypocrisy, double standards, and contradictions.

==Sources==
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==See also==
* [[List of Chris's lies]]
* [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and negotiation

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{{quote|Shut Up and Buy My Toys, please.|Chris, to a potential customer.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Autographs removed from toys]]</ref>}}

[[File:Executiveprotestcard.jpg|thumb|300px|Chris and his Mary Sue ponysona, [[Night Star]], "negotiating" with the perpetually smiling executives of Hasbro over his [[My Little Pony Protests|desire for ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' to continue]] as depicted in one of his [[TSSSF]] cards.]]

While dealing with Chris, [[trolls]] often experience his unique form of '''negotiation'''. Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a [[Barbara Chandler|lifetime of coddling]] and [[autism|other factors beyond his control]], Chris has no grasp of how to compromise and often fails to understand what sort of bargaining position he's in.

Often, [[trolls]] blackmailing Chris will find him making demands of them as if he were the one with leverage. Conversely, some have experienced the oddity of having Chris run away from a situation where he was purposely given the upper hand. When it comes to dealing with Chris directly, one can only expect that he will always take the path of least resistance, even if it doesn't benefit him.

==Concept of compromise==
Negotiation is based on compromise. Both parties must work together and make concessions to each other to find the best possible solution to their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this, and arguably ''cannot'' understand this, given his severely stunted ability to understand that other people have thoughts and feelings that differ from his own. Being completely ego-centric, Chris believes that, in any exchange, both parties must share the same viewpoint: his. Chris can't stand any form of prolonged confrontation and quickly tires if his demands aren't met exactly as he has made them.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate either by making ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up (or do anything at all for that matter). After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PlayStation 3]].

Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he doxed [[Mr. Smith]].

It's worth stating that Chris once claimed [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] was "a very strong negotiator" and that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] "used to have better negotiation skills"<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>. Given their history of [[Mailbag 18#Instead the courts were on the side of justice|feuds]] [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School#The_aftermath|with]] [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris Gets the Boot|authority]] on Chris's behalf, it's safe to assume where his approach to conflict-solving (and that's putting it charitably) had come from.

==Chris's Attempted Negotiations==
===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===
{{quote|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: -I will never hang notes on the wall again. -I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan. -I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg|thumb|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris]]
One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

[[2009|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).

To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a [[CWC Update 26 January 2009|video]] where he pretended to come back from Redmond when he never left the house. Chris demanded that the CEO of an international company come to HIS house and meet with him. When Chris was pressed as to why the meeting had to be at his house, Chris said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, Chris made various excuses and cited his very brief employment at [[Wendy's]]. He also insulted Miyamoto, asking him "Are you the "Mario" who Plays Fair, or the "Bowser/Koopa" who Cheats and Lies?" This sort of "pass the buck" attitude is very common when dealing with Chris. Nothing negative can ever be his fault.

===[[Audiobooks]]===
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|Never considered softly manipulating your target of death threats into giving you money? Only a ''[[Chris_and_English#Spelling|geinus]]'' like Chris would think of such a negotiation tactic.]]
In [[2009]], Chris came into contact with [[Vivian Gee]], a [[white knight]] who eventually turned into a troll. Vivian was very helpful to Chris at first, but Chris refused to hear any of her input. As a result, their relationship soured, and Vivian started a popular ''Sonichu'' parody audiobook that Chris despised. [[4 September 2009|Chris ranted and raved]], demanding that the audiobooks be removed. They were not. One month later, Chris quickly changed his tune. After taking out a [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] on the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|''name'' "Sonichu"]], Chris believed he now had magical copyright powers and demanded that Vivian give him 25% of all the profits she'd made from the audiobooks (which was $0). Overnight, something that he had made death threats over became not only welcome but highly sought after.

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
When Jack stole Chris's [[PSN]] accounts, Chris asked him "Why don't you come down to my house yourself in person, unless you are the cowardly weakling?" Jack had to remind him that he (Jack) held all the cards, and Chris was in no position to make demands.

===[[THAT IS MY HOUSE]]===
After his parents ordered that he remove all copies of his [[Tour of Chris's House|video tour of]] [[14 Branchland Court]] from the Internet, Chris made another video in which he made his demand that all the copies of the tour which had been uploaded by trolls be taken down. Rather than calmly and politely explaining that the videos posed a threat to the safety of his family (which would likely have gotten at least ''some'' of the trolls to remove their copies), Chris loudly shrieks like a child and even turns his demands from being idiotic to being vaguely insulting by admitting it was his fault for uploading the videos, then immediately threatening the trolls with detectives and police if they didn't immediately do as he asked. Humorously, [[Bob]] does a better job at mentioning how serious the situation is, but because Chris didn't include his speech in the final video, the damage the trolls would cause in result was inevitable.

===[[Sweetheart]] [[saga]]s===
Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "sweethearts" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or bus fare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the D.C. area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put more effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

During the Julie saga, Chris made several deals with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[The Miscreants]], all of which he reneged on:

*In the first deal, Chris agreed to do a video where he came out of the closet to save Julie's life. In the [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 1|first take]], he called himself a "[[gaybian]]", which was done so that he could somehow say he was gay without actually calling himself gay. He did a [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 2|second take]] where he clearly stated that he was being forced to say he was gay. When he finally did call himself a homosexual, he mumbled it and stated he was "guhhhhh".

*The second deal was that Chris would clean his room to save Julie's life and that he would do a video to prove it was clean. To avoid having to clean his room, he merely pushed some of his stuff aside and filmed his floor for 30 seconds before he did his [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|Captain's Log]].

*The final deal resulted in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call. [[BlueSpike]], as both Julie and her kid brother Max, had gained access to Chris's [[PSN]] account. In the guise of Max, he offered Chris an ultimatum: The [[PSN]] and Yahoo! accounts or Julie. In a conversation before the call, Chris told Max that he chose Julie, believing that, like in the movies and TV, he would get both back for "making the right choice". Right when "Max" put "Julie" on, Chris immediately asked "her" to get his PSN and Yahoo! back. Failing that, he tried to guilt Max into giving it back to him. In the main call, Max gives Chris one last chance to change his choice. He sticks with Julie, despite the hold that his PSN account has over him. When Max threatened to sell his account on eBay, he revealed that he "made the right choice" and that he deserves his PSN.

===Chris, [[CWCipedia]] captain===
When he was given his wiki for free, he demanded complete executive control from day one. In Chris's mind, this meant that every demand he made would be fulfilled by the staff and that anything done without his permission would be removed immediately. He insisted on a gaudy background, and [[CWCipedia#Traitorous mutiny|threatened to stop working]] whenever the [[Cogsdev|webmaster]] displeased him. Later, when Jack Thaddeus graciously paid for the CWCipedia's webspace with ads featuring homoerotic images, Chris went on a tirade and immediately demanded that they be taken down, yet refused to even consider paying for his website. When removal failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller, as if he had some say in how large advertisements were. Chris had no concept of how advertising worked but merely assumed that he had the final say in everything.

Later, during the "popularity contest" between ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and ''[[Asperchu]]'', he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]] to remove ''Asperchu'' ads from the front page of the CWCipedia. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to ''Sonichu''. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his apologies. Chris's list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game from his [[Xbox|Xbox 360]], blew up said Xbox, and freed a group of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse. After finally fulfilling most of Alec's requests in a substandard and slapdash manner, Chris killed him, his webmaster and two other comic artists in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] as some sort of childish form of revenge.

===[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]===
[[Image:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|thumb|Refusing to help Chris terrorize a retail setting [[Unban contracts|proves you are a most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person]]]]
Less than two years after getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris wouldn't take no for an answer, so he decided to try and persuade Michael Snyder to let him resume patronage. When an apology attempt was met with point-blank rejection (as well as [[Chris and race|an anti-Semitic insult]] and a call to the police), Chris demanded his fanbase harass Mike in retribution on his behalf. Unfortunately for Chris, his decision to record the altercation as "evidence", in case he needed to prove ''he'' was faced with aggression, led to his "fans" praising Mike for sticking to his guns against Chris.

===PlayStation Network===
Often, trolls will gain access to Chris's PSN, and make various demands. The most common of these demands is that he sell or throw out some of his beloved toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a glance at his PSN account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'', ''[[God of War]] 3'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'', which leaves most of his [[List of Chris's games|vast collection of games]] untouched. Even though he doesn't use the majority of the toys and games he owns, he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something that would improve his life.

Between late [[August 2010]] and early [[September 2010]], Chris was met with the opportunity (not really) of gaining $9,001 in exchange for the [[The MovingForward videos|destruction of]] [[ItIsFinished.MOV|his PS3]]. Needless to say, [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|it didn't go well]]. The bounty was only for trolls and was, in turn, fake. However, Chris tried to haggle (albeit ''very'' poorly) with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] to get something that never existed. The ultimate result of this was Chris [[Charlottesville Fashion Square#Chris captured on video|actually waiting for his money at the Charlottesville Fashion Square]] after being tricked into going there. After realizing he had been tricked, he ended by telling them to "go point at your own damn snouts and Oink like [[South Park|Eric Cartman]], and then [[Rape]] yourselves with your own Damn [[Sex toys|Darth Maul Dual Light Saber]]."

===[[3DS Flipnote|Flipnote Studio on 3DS]]===
In one of Chris's many [[Flipnote Studio]] creations, he requests that Nintendo port the software to their 3DS platform. In typical Chris fashion, his animation consists of him [[Chris and anger|yelling loudly]] and demanding that Nintendo bring the software to the 3DS. Chris had sped his voice up to the point where it's hard to decipher what he's saying, but he assumes that being loud will get you what you want. Throughout the entire animation, his tone of voice and choice of words suggest that [[Chris and his Ego|he's under the impression that he's some sort of spokesperson]] for all Flipnote users. Nintendo eventually released ''Flipnote Studio 3D'' in [[February 2015]].

===[[Calling Out]]===
Returning to [[YouTube]] after an 8-month hiatus, Chris decided to confront two of his trolls, [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]], over what they've done and demanded that Tito apologize to Sony over the hackings and to [[The Wallflower]] for "breaking them up", then give him [[Chris and money|$1000]], and telling Thorg to apologize for putting up pictures years ago and to put up a non-slanderous billboard saying that Chris is [[STRAIGHT]]. He also wants them to remove all contributions to the [[CWCki]]. If these weren't done, he'd reveal their pictures and possible other dox and have the trolls troll them.

Unlike the incident involving Clyde Cash resulting in [[Twin Falling Towers|a very poorly made decision]], Chris honestly believes he has the upper hand and can finally pay back against some of his trolls. However, what he's doing isn't a negotiation, but an [[Chris and the Law|extortion]], expecting these goals to be completed or they were to suffer the consequences with Chris doing nothing on his part.

===[[eBay]] and [[Craigslist]] sales===
Chris's idea of salesmanship is interesting, to say the least. He attempts to sell mostly old, broken or worthless items and tends to demand many times the item's actual value in exchange, often non-negotiable. An early example was his attempt to sell an ancient television on Craigslist, demanding ''$250'' for a piece of junk he'd be lucky to sell for a tenth of that sum.

Since then, he has become a much more prolific e-merchant, and has whittled away [[2014]] charging thousands of dollars for his "[[art]]" on eBay, showing that he is still [[Chris and reality|delusional]] enough to [[Chris and his Ego|vastly overestimate his e-fame and artistic talent]]. Similarly, he tried to sell his late father's replica of a Stradivarius violin for almost ''$100,000'', as if he believed that a violin with a manufactured label saying it was made in the 1950s on its interior could be the real thing. Most recently, he has attempted to sell his and his mother's ancient, barely-functioning cars. Typical of Chris, he is demanding thousands of dollars for cars which are worth maybe a few hundred (as scrap). He also characteristically demands that the deal in question is of a "no-haggle" nature even when setting unrealistic asking prices on sites where haggling is often the norm.

Needless to say, most of Chris's merchandise either go unsold, or he is forced to accept a more realistic price for it. We can only assume the rest is bought by his [[Trolls|most avid fans]] who [[Medallions#Obtaining medallions|glory in the opportunity to possess samples of his fine work]].

However, Chris may not just ask for ridiculous prices in exchange for his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitty]] [[Medallions#Mark 2|possessions]] because he's taking his prospective buyers for [[Naïve|fools]], but because [[Chris and money|he doesn't know the first thing about value]]. Consider his lavish spending sprees that transcend his ability to fund them; his parents taught him nothing about the value of money, which he thinks can be pissed away nonchalantly. He also struggles with measurement, as evidenced by his estimation of a 12-pack of canned lemonade weighing 50 pounds, a symptom of [[autism]], it's possible that his incompetence in this regard also extends to an estimation of value.

The reality, however, could also be something much more sinister. The high prices he sets for his goods may not be due to ignorance of value, but a symptom of his abject materialism and hoarding, inherited from [[Barb]]. It's possible that Chris is so attached to and obsessed with his material possessions that he seriously finds his ludicrous prices an acceptable consolation for him to have to give up part of his precious hoard.

===[[Unban contracts]]===
[[Image:Gamestop 02.jpg|thumb|Notice the small print, wherein Chris accidentally gives [[Manajerks]] further reason to keep him out of their establishments]]
In [[October 2016]], Chris delivered contracts to at least two stores (Gamestop and Best Buy) from which he was banned. In these contracts (which were likely not signed), he puts in a clause stating the stores in question can't call the [[JERKOPS|police]] against him (making the contract null and void, since contracts can't protect against prosecution.) He also wants the managers to "forgive and forget," and claims that not signing proves they are "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person."

===[[Sonic World]]===
If, for whatever reason, you needed further proof that Chris hasn't learned from previous failures at negotiation, the trouble he got into with the Sonic World Discord server in late 2020 is a perfect example.

Chris took Cirrusfire's Sonichu character mod and reposted it with considerable alterations (i.e. replacing the soundbites and character bio with what he made) and absolutely zero permission from the modder whatsoever. After he was rightfully kicked from the Discord server for this unwanted misuse of someone else's hard work (as well as [[December_2020_social_media_posts#Chris_.22setting_the_record_straight.22|an egocentric tirade on his Twitter]] with more expression of his delusions), he went to have a word with Cirrusfire himself.

Instead of acknowledging he had done something wrong and offering to work things out ([[Chris and remorse|which no one would expect from Chris by this point anyway]]), he opted to berate Cirrusfire. Not only was he under the impression that him crediting the modder and Sonic World being a non-profit fan project would justify meddling with data unauthorized, but he also proceeded to claim ''[[Chris and his ego|he]]'' was hurt by his so-called act of "generosity" to help Cirrusfire be "made famous" and outright accuse him (along with others in the server) of being [[Chris and hypocrisy|"ungrateful and selfish"]].

Sure enough, [[List_of_places_that_have_banned_Chris#Sonic_World_DX|Chris was eventually banned from the server]], no closer to getting what he wanted than every previous conflict he failed to amicably resolve by his own fault.

===[[Jail Saga|In court]]===

When Chris was arrested in [[August 2021]], he found himself before the courts to be arraigned for the charges. After being reminded that said appearance was to determine if he would be given bond or not (based on his likeliness to appear on trial and if he, the defendant, constituted a danger to himself and others,) Chris made demands that [[Chris and reality|he be let home]] to collect [[Toys|his things]], but not before risking contempt of court by doing things such as stomping his feet in anger and interrupting the judge several times with inane outbursts such as: "I'm famous on the internet!"

Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>

==Attempted Negotiations with Chris==
===Simonla===
[[Evan]] created Simonchu as a joke, giving permission to use him in the comic, but then Chris decided to instead make his own female version named [[Simonla Rosechu]]. This (along with [[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails|Chris openly lying that he was given permission to alter the character]]) roused Evan's ire considerably and started a long fight for the future of a recolor OC. Evan demanded that Chris remove Simonla from the comic and Chris, naturally, was tenacious in his attempts to prevent Simonla from meeting her untimely demise. At first, Chris simply ignored Evan's orders. Then ([[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly|after plans to include Simonchu as Simonla's brother didn't appease Evan]]) Chris later contrived a new excuse to disregard the wishes of a perceived foe and keep what rightfully wasn't his: [[Chris and reality|that Simonla was happily living in CWCville with a boyfriend and it would be a cruel violation of her rights to kill her for good]].

Evan gave further demands but Chris continued to dig in his heels, even [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|nonchalantly explaining his egocentric delusions to]] [[Alec Benson Leary]] in an attempt to justify sparing a stolen OC. Only after considerable arguments and the [[CWCipedia]] eventually getting shut down by force did Chris ''finally'' budge and even then, it amounted to no more than a toilet explosion as her cause of death. And to say nothing of the "revenge" Chris graphically dished out to a fictionalized portrayal of Evan afterwards.

==Chris's tactics==
===Ignoring reality===
When Chris is faced with a task requiring any effort on his part (no matter how minimal) or involves something that does not benefit him, he completely ignores it. Chris automatically disregards anything that will not benefit him immediately, or almost immediately. The hardest part of negotiating with Chris is that, if you make a demand that he does not agree to, he shuts down. Like a spoiled infant, Chris will not even deal with something that isn't self-serving and easy.

On the other hand, when you have something Chris wants, Chris will not give up until he has acquired it - on his terms. When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway or claim that the rules are discriminatory and unfair. Chris will pursue his goal thoughtlessly and simple-mindedly - expending great resources in the process - often ignoring even the idea that he might not get what he wants. In the process, he frequently acts as if he has some sort of leverage even in situations where this is manifestly not the case — he continually made demands of the CWCipedia's administrators, for instance, even though they had full control over the website and he had none.

Also (whether you think it's due to being [[naïve]] about how real-world humans work or a failed attempt at deliberate manipulation), Chris seems to assume that if it comes straight from his mouth in a situation where he expects complete benefits, what he says would (and should) be immediately accepted by the other party, willfully ignoring literally ''anything'' to signify he is neither True nor Honest. His many [[Chris and remorse|"apologies"]], for one thing, which he seems to think will make anyone denying him what he wants change their mind and let him live a consequence-free lifestyle (which of course is largely because of Chris actively defying established rules and norms for socially acceptable behaviour in the first place).

===Altering reality===
In some instances (the rare ones that he does what he was instructed to), anything said or done he feels slandered his good name he will simply state are lies and instruct everyone to ignore them, then will [[Mailbag 2|close his mind]] on the subject. This is retarded for two reasons. By telling his "fans" to ignore the lies, he is alerting "fans" that are a little behind on what's happening with Chris of their existence, making more people see them than would have if he didn't acknowledge them. He is also showing he is aware of their existence, and still insisting they are lies.

As mentioned above, Chris will also expect any lie he makes in a conflict where he is hopeful to get something he wants to be taken at face value, no matter what. To name one specific case, whilst on the verge of facing legal action if he didn't stop using Simonla in his comic, Chris claimed that he could've easily come up with the character entirely on his own and later edited Simonla's CWCipedia entry with a false statement that no OC theft ever occurred. Predictably enough, no one bought this lie.

===Delays===

[[File:PornRequest.png|thumb|You can't go wrong with MLP porn over paying your debt!]]

When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (most noticeably deadlines), he will explain that he is "working on it". To Chris, saying this is an acceptable substitute for actual work, whether or not he is indeed "working on it". If in his own good time, Chris feels inclined to fulfill the deal, he'll submit whenever he wants to, regardless of the original agreement, well after the deadline. If the agreement was that he would receive something for the "work" done, he will demand it unceasingly, despite not holding up his end of the deal in any way, shape, or form.

Even if Chris somehow agrees to a set of terms, he will try to get around them. If he agrees to give something up for someone, he will go behind that person's back to get it back so that he could have both. If he agrees to draw a comic, he will most likely do something easier, like making a video or write a blog entry, figuring that that counts as work. If he agrees to willingly slander himself (like calling himself gay, for instance), he'll either mumble it so that it's incomprehensible, or he'll hide his face.

==References==
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Imaginary family

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[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris with his "children", "grandchildren", a fictious [[Transformers|Transformer]], and his real-life parents.]]

Chris has numerous '''imaginary family members''' that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex|benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family. Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

[[file:chrisansestore.jpg|thumb| Native American Representation]]

The leader of the [[Cherokian Clan]] is a fictional ancestor of Chris, originating from Chris’s belief that he is part Cherokee, which was disproven in 2018 after Chris took a [[CWC Ancestry|23andme dna test]].

The character is a Caucasian [[Chris and race|Aryan]] man wearing a Roman chest plate Halloween costume, showing how little Chris knew about the people he supposedly descended from. The character looks identical to Chris, who is meant to be his reincarnation.

He first makes an appearance in episode 7 of sonichu #2, introducing himself as Chris’s ancestor, tells him to kill [[Count Graduon]], and gives him his sonichu powers.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)}}

==Patti-Chan==
[[file:Patti-Chancard.jpg|thumb|Right|He couldn't let her rest now, did he?]]
{{Main|Patti-Chan}}

'''Patti Chandler''' (17 March [[1988]] - 27 [[June 2006]]) was [[Chris]]'s childhood dog, a {{w|Beagle}}-{{w|spitz}} mix who was put down in [[2006]], then brought back as a character in CWCville. Patti grew up with Chris and was the closest thing he had to a sibling, since his [[Cole Smithey| half brother]] wanted nothing to do with his family. In a phone call with [[Clyde Cash]], Chris compares the death of Clyde’s brother to the death of Patti, offending Clyde. Chris defended this by stating that Patti was like a sibling.

Chris brought Patti back to life in [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' 6]] as [[Patti-Chan]] (a character created by [[Megan Schroeder]] to help Chris [[Chris and coping|cope]] with the loss of his beloved pet), where she somehow gained the ability to walk, talk, and apply for [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]] in [[CWCville]].

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for [[Sonichu 0 HD|Sonichu #0 HD]], he made Sonichu call him "Mother" to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line, with Chris performing several [[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu|sexual]] [[Sonichu 13#Chris and Sonichu rape each other|acts]] on him due to the influence of the trolls, most notably, the [[Idea Guys]].

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)}}

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''Maybe.''' Although it would probably require a fair bit of luck and the kid is likely to come out being [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]].

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding [[Fiona|a willing female]]. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|once Chris began using HRT in sessions]], Chris destroyed what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at near 0%. While he is on the medication, we can't be quite sure if he is taking it regularly or in the right amounts.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world,<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Need my daughter]]</ref> but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up, and he was under distress due to the manipulation of the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced him that [[Cryzel Torture|they would only stop torturing his imaginary wife if he made the sex tape]]. That being said, some later [[Incest Texts|text-based details]] of ambiguous authenticity during [[Affair with Mother|Chris's "soul-bonding" with his mother]] in 2021 suggested that he used his penis to have sex with Barb. Although Barb was long since infertile at that point, Chris allegedly wore a condom anyway. It's probably for the better though, as the last thing we need in this world are Barb and Chris having zombie children.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth,<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> although he seemingly dropped the idea in the following years, wishing to remain with his genitals for some unknown reason. Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a male-to-female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]] and he prefers buying [[Transformers]] anyway.

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref> Amen.

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question, then you really don't know anything about Chris. Parenting is an enormous task that takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his [[Borb|own parents]]. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he can't be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years when they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example, can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|himself]]? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in lieu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal is expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris, Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have [[Praetor|a group of exploiters]] taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his livestream money and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

What children also need is a good adult to properly teach them morals and facts of life. Insistent claims that he is [[Honest Content#True and Honest|"True and Honest"]] and [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|self-insert portrayal]] notwithstanding, Chris is nowhere near the man for the job. At best, he's not above [[List of Chris's lies|lying]] or doing less than desirable things to get what he wants and at worst, he has [[List of places that have banned Chris|gotten himself banned from numerous places]] for unruly behavior. On top of that, he cultivated [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex in that]] [[Greene County Conspiracy|random people simply minding their own business conspire to torment him just for being autistic]], which [[Matthew Nobles call|originated from his incompetent parents]] (who clearly failed to instill genuine moral values within him for 29 years). Assuming that Chris's hypothetical child inherits his condition and/or doesn't have the ability nor willingness to defy or simply leave him permanently, it's very likely he'll be a terrible role model for them just as [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] were to him and the cycle of toxicity would continue.

Also, not to put too fine of a point on it, Chris has [[Chris and anger|virtually no aptitude for self-control and anger management whatsoever]]. Even if you were to argue that past conflicts have proven he is way too passive to assault anyone physically, he'll just as easily settle for verbal outbursts and exaggerated temper tantrums in general, which can similarly cause trauma. As documented, Chris ''did'' have a tendency to lose his temper towards young kids during the time he went to [[The GAMe PLACe]] on weekends, which (among other bad habits) eventually led to [[Michael Snyder|the manager]] banning him permanently <ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris's ban from the store]]</ref>. Top that off with Chris being [[Chris and his ego|a self-righteous egotist]] [[Chris and remorse|virtually unable to feel remorse and empathy]], the end result could be ''at best'' a strained relationship between Chris and his child(ren), if not them escaping and preventing further contact with him altogether (as his half-brother [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] did with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother|mother and her child]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with one's own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful) [[Pedofork|because children are]] [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|not able to consent to sex]].

In short, if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected, abused, and/or [[Chris_and_death#Imaginary_friends|dead]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]

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{{Love quest}}
{{Sonichu}}
{{Fantasies}}
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[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

Imaginary family

2024-06-23T20:44:00Z

FurryChristorian789: Shortening one section and inserting another.

{{Incomplete}}

[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris with his "children", "grandchildren", a fictious [[Transformers|Transformer]], and his real-life parents.]]

Chris has numerous '''imaginary family members''' that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex|benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family. Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

[[file:chrisansestore.jpg|thumb| Native American Representation]]

The leader of the [[Cherokian Clan]] is a fictional ancestor of Chris, originating from Chris’s belief that he is part Cherokee, which was disproven in 2018 after Chris took a [[CWC Ancestry|23andme dna test]].

The character is a Caucasian [[Chris and race|Aryan]] man wearing a Roman chest plate Halloween costume, showing how little Chris knew about the people he supposedly descended from. The character looks identical to Chris, who is meant to be his reincarnation.

He first makes an appearance in episode 7 of sonichu #2, introducing himself as Chris’s ancestor, tells him to kill [[Count Graduon]], and gives him his sonichu powers.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)}}

==Patti-Chan==
[[file:Patti-Chancard.jpg|thumb|Right|He couldn't let her rest now, did he?]]
{{Main|Patti-Chan}}

'''Patti Chandler''' (17 March [[1988]] - 27 [[June 2006]]) was [[Chris]]'s childhood dog, a {{w|Beagle}}-{{w|spitz}} mix who was put down in [[2006]], then brought back as a character in CWCville. Patti grew up with Chris and was the closest thing he had to a sibling, since his [[Cole Smithey| half brother]] wanted nothing to do with his family. In a phone call with [[Clyde Cash]], Chris compares the death of Clyde’s brother to the death of Patti, offending Clyde. Chris defended this by stating that Patti was like a sibling.

Chris brought Patti back to life in [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' 6]] as [[Patti-Chan]] (a character created by [[Megan Schroeder]] to help Chris [[Chris and coping|cope]] with the loss of his beloved pet), where she somehow gained the ability to walk, talk, and apply for [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]] in [[CWCville]].

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for [[Sonichu 0 HD|Sonichu #0 HD]], he made Sonichu call him "Mother" to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line, with Chris performing several [[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu|sexual]] [[Sonichu 13#Chris and Sonichu rape each other|acts]] on him due to the influence of the trolls, most notably, the [[Idea Guys]].

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)}}

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''Maybe.''' Although it would probably require a fair bit of luck and the kid is likely to come out being [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]].

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding [[Fiona|a willing female]]. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|once Chris began using HRT in sessions]], Chris destroyed what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at near 0%. While he is on the medication, we can't be quite sure if he is taking it regularly or in the right amounts.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world,<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Need my daughter]]</ref> but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up, and he was under distress due to the manipulation of the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced him that [[Cryzel Torture|they would only stop torturing his imaginary wife if he made the sex tape]]. That being said, some later [[Incest Texts|text-based details]] of ambiguous authenticity during [[Affair with Mother|Chris's "soul-bonding" with his mother]] in 2021 suggested that he used his penis to have sex with Barb. Although Barb was long since infertile at that point, Chris allegedly wore a condom anyway. It's probably for the better though, as the last thing we need in this world are Barb and Chris having zombie children.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth,<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> although he seemingly dropped the idea in the following years, wishing to remain with his genitals for some unknown reason. Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a male-to-female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]] and he prefers buying [[Transformers]] anyway.

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref> Amen.

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question, then you really don't know anything about Chris. Parenting is an enormous task that takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his [[Borb|own parents]]. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he can't be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years when they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example, can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|himself]]? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in lieu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal is expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris, Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have [[Praetor|a group of exploiters]] taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his livestream money and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

What children also need is a good adult to properly teach them morals and facts of life. Insistent claims that he is [[Honest Content#True and Honest|"True and Honest"]] and [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|self-insert portrayal]] notwithstanding, Chris is nowhere near the man for the job. At best, he's not above [[List of Chris's lies|lying]] or doing less than desirable things to get what he wants and at worst, he has [[List of places that have banned Chris|gotten himself banned from numerous places]] for unruly behavior. On top of that, he cultivated [[Kick the Autistic|a persecution complex in that]] [[Greene County Conspiracy|random people simply minding their own business conspire to torment him simply for being autistic]], which [[Matthew Nobles call|originated from his incompetent parents]] (who clearly failed to instill genuine moral values within him for 29 years). Assuming that Chris's hypothetical child inherits his condition and/or doesn't have the ability nor willingness to defy or simply leave him permanently, it's very likely he'll be a terrible role model for them just as [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] were to him and the cycle of toxicity would continue.

Also, not to put too fine of a point on it, Chris has [[Chris and anger|virtually no aptitude for self-control and anger management whatsoever]]. Even if you were to argue that past conflicts have proven he is way too passive to assault anyone physically, he'll just as easily settle for verbal outbursts and exaggerated temper tantrums in general, which can similarly cause trauma. As documented, Chris ''did'' have a tendency to lose his temper towards young kids during the time he went to [[The GAMe PLACe]] on weekends, which (among other bad habits) eventually led to [[Michael Snyder|the manager]] banning him permanently <ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris's ban from the store]]</ref>. Top that off with Chris being [[Chris and his ego|a self-righteous egotist]] [[Chris and remorse|virtually unable to feel remorse and empathy]], the end result could be ''at best'' a strained relationship between Chris and his child(ren), if not them escaping and preventing further contact with him altogether (as his half-brother [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] did with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother|mother and her child]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with one's own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful) [[Pedofork|because children are]] [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|not able to consent to sex]].

In short, if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected, abused, and/or [[Chris_and_death#Imaginary_friends|dead]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]

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{{Love quest}}
{{Sonichu}}
{{Fantasies}}
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[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

Jerkop

2024-06-13T03:58:15Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Police? */

{{Articleofthenow}}

{{quote|[[Mary Lee Walsh|That *&^%$]] SHATTERED MY HEART AND MURDERED MY SOUL. And it wasn't just her, the Policemen Imposters in Brown, White and Red, AKA The Jerkops (Blue and Black ARE the TRUE POLICE SOLDIERS) also seriously indented the impression that "[[Virgina is for Virgins]], NOT Lovers".}}

[[Image:146-Jerkop.jpg|thumb|A REAL AMERICAN HERO]]
A '''Jerkop''' is a mall security guard, police officer or prison guard. The word itself is a portmanteau of "[[JERKS|JERK]]" and "cop". Female Jerkops are sometimes called '''Janekops'''.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20111128031730/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#Jerkops.2C_Janekops.2C_ATTACK.21]</ref>

In the [[comic|Sonichu comics]], Jerkops serve as the villainous private army of [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[Count Graduon]], with Sonichu liberating them from the former's control in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].

==Appearance==
[[Image:Jerkops2004.jpg|thumb|left|Standard Jerkops watch [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|some shitty recolor]] levitate in a [[2004]] short.]]

Jerkops typically resemble human beings wearing red, white, or brown police-style uniforms. [[Chris]] goes into greater detail in his "Backyard Safari" feature in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]]:

{{quote|Let's look at one on this illustration. Now here, we see its head is a basic human shape, but it only thinks [[Death threats|evil]] and [[Mass debating|naughty]] thoughts. Note, its eyes are frowning; the[sic] stay that way 24/7. With this face, [[Virgin with rage|they rarely attract any women]]. This "badge" is a phony; it's really a cracker, covered in glitter-glue. It wards away all who approach it with its out-of-date breadstick. They wear basic black pants to cover their agil[sic], yet ugly legs; viens[sic], hair, and sores oh, my! Some, not all, wear a black gove[sic] to cover the spot where one finger fell of[sic] as it grew up. They wear brown shoes, because they are ashamed of their sausage feet. When attacked by one, you can take it down easily by kicking it here, in the sour-dough area.}}

Rank and file Jerkops are depicted in an even simpler fashion than the other background characters in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]]. Their legs are often held tightly together, as if they move via tiny wheels on the undersides of their feet. They have plain, curved, vase-like white bodies. Their female counterparts, Janekops, look about the same, except for their prominent breasts and neck-length hairstyles.

Chris would later elaborate on the Jerkop uniforms on the [[CWCipedia]]. White uniforms were for low-class Jerkops, such as new recruits. Red uniforms were for an intermediate rank, possessing "Good Amount of Expierences and Combat Skills." Finally, brown uniforms were for the highest class, including Jerkhiefs and Jerkop Daitenzen such as Bagget.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20111128031730/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#The_Construction_of_the_PVCCitizens_Building]</ref>
{{clear}}
===Mecha-Jerkops===
[[Image:Mecha-jerkops.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Like Robocop, only... no, actually, they're nothing like Robocop at all.]]
Robotic minions of the Jerkops, the Mecha-Jerkops first appeared in [[Sonichu 3|Sonichu #3]]. Humanoid in appearance, Mecha-Jerkops are about half the size of normal humans, and are dressed and armed to resemble human Jerkops in every other respect. Because of this, and [[Chris and art|Chris's inconsistent depiction of scale and perspective]], it is difficult to distinguish Mecha-Jerkops from their organic counterparts, and they may have appeared in subsequent issues without being named.

In [[Sub-Episode 4]], "McAttack Part 1", [[B-Manajerk]] explains that the [[Jerkhief]] informed him of Chris and his [[Love Quest]]. To help the Manajerks at [[Mal-Wart]] defeat Chris, the Jerkhief sent a pair of Mecha-Jerkops to help the B-Manajerk, and his partner, the [[Merried Seinor Comic]]. Before the Mecha-Jerkops could act, however, they were cut down by the sword of [[Darkbind Sonichu]], who had come to help Chris battle the Manajerks.

==Police?==
{{quote|And so, I urge you the citizens of CWCville to remember, with the police, only black and blue are true; all other colors are VICE!|Chris displays his irrational hatred of the Vice Squad, [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]], page 28}}

[[File:IwouldntfeelcomfortableMySpace.jpg|thumb|"Police-Women" on Chris's [[dating]] blacklist]]

While a common misconception holds that Chris essentially delivered a verbose "Fuck tha Police" through the Jerkop characters, he clarified in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu ''#5]] that [[Niggos|brown]] (mall security) is wrong, while more common black and blue (police officers) are [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]]. A lot of what Chris wrote about the Jerkops was a feeble effort to undermine the authority of private security staff by comparing them unfavorably with the police. So in mocking the Jerkops' "cracker" badges and hyping "the true police people", Chris ironically put the police on a pedestal.

That said, Chris held a very narrow definition of a "true" police officer. When describing the origins of the Jerkops on CWCipedia, Chris again pointed out that they wore uniforms "OF COLORS OTHER THAN BLUE OR BLACK." This seemed to be a major sticking point for Chris. [[Chris and reality|As far as he was concerned]], [[Chris and fashion|the color of a cop's uniform]] provided the sole signifier of his authority, even though many police officers wear brown or white uniforms (or plain clothes when undercover) whether Chris approves or not. Brown is also a popular choice for county police and sheriff's deputies' uniforms (i.e. those serving Greene County), while blue is more common in the cities.

Whatever he was wearing at the time, [[Bagget|Marcus Baggett]] was definitely a real police officer when he arrested Chris in 2004. Nevertheless, Chris still lumped him into the same category as all the security guards who gave him a hard time. So, according to Chris's earlier outlook, cops are only okay as long as they wear blue and black AND they don't try to arrest him for breaking the [[Chris and the law|law]].

Subsequent to the events of [[28 October 2011]], these distinctions are moot. Chris now hates and fears all security guards or police officers regardless of their uniforms or the source of their authority. In a Facebook status update from January 2012, made during an attempt to trawl the [[Fashion Square Mall]] for sweethearts, he states: "After October 28, 2011; I know have TOTAL Disrespect and Miscontent of the soo-called Officers of the Badge."

However, when he [[Jail Saga#Arrest|got arrested in]] [[August 2021]], he uncharacteristically complied with officers (albeit on the advice of [[The WCT]] ''and'' openly invoking the [[Dimensional Merge]] as he did so), suggesting it may not be so much that his antipathy towards the Jerkops has abated within the past several years, but that he instead opts for [[Chris and reality|descent into fantasy]] to live in denial that he could ever be deserving of legal scrutiny.

That being said, in late [[May 2024]] when he caught a [[Kiwi Farms]] user's car approaching his house on security camera, he threatened to report any future stalkers to the authorities using footage as proof<ref>May 2024 social media posts#Stalker gets caught on security camera</ref>. [[Chris and his ego|You need not guess why he would suddenly decide the law isn't all villainous.]]

==Police in ''Sonichu''==
While [[CWCville]] has a police department in ''Sonichu'', they rarely ever appear, except to support Chris and Sonichu while they defend the city instead. In [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] Chris dismisses them from the battlefield as soon as he arrives, and in [[Sonichu 9|#9]] they're only mentioned as part of the city's defenses. Finally, in [[Sonichu 10|#10]], Chris introduces Constables Lou Perez and Gerald Grant, when Magi-Chan sends them to check Inos into a soup hotel.{{clear}}

==Equipment==

{{quote|MY WOODEN BADGE WAS DELICIOUS!|[[Jerkhief]], [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]] cover}}

[[Image:Freudiangun.jpg|right|thumb|A [[pickle]] cleverly disguised as a pistol.]]

Jerkops, in fitting with their mission to prevent autistic manchildren from procreating, are equipped with faux badges, evidently made of crackers, glitter glue and tree bark.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20120628142040/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_56]</ref> What purpose these serve is unknown, as [[Chris|no one]] would be so [[Autistic|retarded]] as to fall for such a shoddy disguise.

In terms of weaponry, most Jerkops carry a stale breadstick, in place of a traditional nightstick, pulled from nowhere. The Jerkops also used handcuffs on one occasion, although this may not be standard issue. [[Jerkhief]] wields a Halberd-like Pole Axe, and wears a suit of powered armor with Laser Cannons and Missile Lauchers in its shoulders and back, along with the ability to fire off its fists like rockets- he also keeps a Pistol and a Metal Slingshot as backup weaponry. [[Bagget|Jerkop Daitenzen]] wields a sword, and his costume seems to be made of a special material that protects him from the electric attacks of [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]].

The Jerkops also employ several [[Decepti-Clones|transforming robots]] for transportation and battle. These include "Punislavs", which transform into brown-liveried Police Cruisers, "Scoundrels as Vessels", which transform into heavily-armoured SUVs, and "Crackders", which transform into dark blue [[Wikipedia:Sukhoi Su-35|Jet Fighters]]. The Crackder model proved instrumental in Bagget's capture of Chris in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]].
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==Weaknesses==
[[Image:Cwckicktothenads.JPG|center|thumb|300px|This is how Chris deals with people who tell him to GTFO]]
As demonstrated above, the best way to reduce those who prevent you from violating the law to a quivering pile of jelly is [[CWC Fighter|a good kick]] in the balls, or as Chris calls it, the "Sourdough region." The lowest levels of Jerkop require only a single kick to this region, while higher-level Jerkops such as the [[Jerkhief]] may require as many as five kicks, because their fat absorbs the impact.

==Creation of a Jerkop==
[[File:CrowdofJerkops.jpg|thumb|right|200|What Chris sees every time he steps in the mall.]]
According to the CWCipedia, Jerkops are normal men and women who ended up attending [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel Ryam]]'s school, known as "Prowldent Virginia Community College." Upon entering the school for the first day, they are unwittingly infected with "brainwashing powder" that subconsciously affects them. They can live normal lives, but once Slaweel has need for them, she'll activate the brainwashing, and the Jerkops will don their uniforms and go cockblock Chris.

As seen in Chris's [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"|earlier documentation]], the Jerkops also make use of a "Hypno-Gun" to add to their numbers, since they have such a [[virgin with rage|hard time reproducing]]. In describing the hypno-gun, Chris made it very clear that the Jerkop brainwashing only worked on "[[slow-in-the-minds]]", and others of [[Christian Weston Chandler|lesser intelligence]]. It wasn't until [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] where any mention was made of the idea of un-brainwashing the Jerkops, and even then, Chris makes it abundantly clear that his Electric Hedgehogs have managed to actually [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|''kill'']] several of the otherwise completely innocent victims in their fights.

Whatever the previous method of un-brainwashing the Jerkops that Sonichu and company manage not to outright murder, it becomes a moot point in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], when [[Ultra Sonichu]] uses his [[GodJesus|nigh-omnipotence]] to supposedly cure all Jerkops everywhere forever.

==Appearances in comic==
*[[Sonichu_0#Sub-Episode_1:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Jerkop-tastropie.22|Sonichu 0 Sub-Episode 1:Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-Tastrophe"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_6:_.22Christian_Chandler.27s_Backyard_Safari.22|Sonichu 4 Sub Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_7:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 7: "Off-Target"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_8:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target_part_2.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 8: "Off-Target part 2"]]
*[[Sonichu_5#Episode_13:_.22Smashed_Hearts_.26_Entrapment.22|Sonichu 5 Episode 13: "Smashed Hearts & Entrapment"]]
*[[Sonichu_6#Episode_14:_.22Evil_is_Afoot.21.22|Sonichu 6 Episode 14: "Evil is Afoot!"]]
*[[Sonichu_7#Episode_16:_.22Time_Hogs.22|Sonichu 7 Episode 16: "Time Hogs"]]
*[[Sonichu_9#Episode_20:_CWC-Defense|Sonichu 9 Episode 20: "CWC-Defense"]]
*[[Sonichu_10#Episode_21:_Christian_Chandler_in_Director_Amenities|Sonichu 10 Episode 21: Christian Chandler in "Director Amenities"]]
*[[Sonichu_12#Episode_26:_Prideful|Sonichu 12 Episode 26: "Prideful"]]

==Notable Jerkops==
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Bagget]]
*[[Punislav]]
*[[Cole Smithey]]

==References==
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==See also==
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*[[List of Sonichu characters#Janekops|Janekops]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
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Chris and negotiation

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{{quote|Shut Up and Buy My Toys, please.|Chris, to a potential customer.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Autographs removed from toys]]</ref>}}

[[File:Executiveprotestcard.jpg|thumb|300px|Chris and his Mary Sue ponysona, [[Night Star]], "negotiating" with the perpetually smiling executives of Hasbro over his [[My Little Pony Protests|desire for ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' to continue]] as depicted in one of his [[TSSSF]] cards.]]

While dealing with Chris, [[trolls]] often experience his unique form of '''negotiation'''. Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a [[Barbara Chandler|lifetime of coddling]] and [[autism|other factors beyond his control]], Chris has no grasp of how to compromise and often fails to understand what sort of bargaining position he's in.

Often, [[trolls]] blackmailing Chris will find him making demands of them as if he were the one with leverage. Conversely, some have experienced the oddity of having Chris run away from a situation where he was purposely given the upper hand. When it comes to dealing with Chris directly, one can only expect that he will always take the path of least resistance, even if it doesn't benefit him.

==Concept of compromise==
Negotiation is based on compromise. Both parties must work together and make concessions to each other to find the best possible solution to their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this, and arguably ''cannot'' understand this, given his severely stunted ability to understand that other people have thoughts and feelings that differ from his own. Being completely ego-centric, Chris believes that, in any exchange, both parties must share the same viewpoint: his. Chris can't stand any form of prolonged confrontation and quickly tires if his demands aren't met exactly as he has made them.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate either by making ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up (or do anything at all for that matter). After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PlayStation 3]].

Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he doxed [[Mr. Smith]].

It's worth stating that Chris once claimed [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] was "a very strong negotiator" and that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] "used to have better negotiation skills"<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>. Given their history of [[Mailbag 18#Instead the courts were on the side of justice|feuds]] [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School#The_aftermath|with]] [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris Gets the Boot|authority]] on Chris's behalf, it's safe to assume where his approach to conflict-solving (and that's putting it charitably) had come from.

==Chris's Attempted Negotiations==
===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===
{{quote|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: -I will never hang notes on the wall again. -I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan. -I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg|thumb|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of wrongdoings to make up for, according to Chris]]
One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

[[2009|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't previously blocked him).

To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him, similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably did not cut ice likewise.

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a [[CWC Update 26 January 2009|video]] where he pretended to come back from Redmond when he never left the house. Chris demanded that the CEO of an international company come to HIS house and meet with him. When Chris was pressed as to why the meeting had to be at his house, Chris said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, Chris made various excuses and cited his very brief employment at [[Wendy's]]. He also insulted Miyamoto, asking him "Are you the "Mario" who Plays Fair, or the "Bowser/Koopa" who Cheats and Lies?" This sort of "pass the buck" attitude is very common when dealing with Chris. Nothing negative can ever be his fault.

===[[Audiobooks]]===
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|Never considered softly manipulating your target of death threats into giving you money? Only a ''[[Chris_and_English#Spelling|geinus]]'' like Chris would think of such a negotiation tactic.]]
In [[2009]], Chris came into contact with [[Vivian Gee]], a [[white knight]] who eventually turned into a troll. Vivian was very helpful to Chris at first, but Chris refused to hear any of her input. As a result, their relationship soured, and Vivian started a popular ''Sonichu'' parody audiobook that Chris despised. [[4 September 2009|Chris ranted and raved]], demanding that the audiobooks be removed. They were not. One month later, Chris quickly changed his tune. After taking out a [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] on the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|''name'' "Sonichu"]], Chris believed he now had magical copyright powers and demanded that Vivian give him 25% of all the profits she'd made from the audiobooks (which was $0). Overnight, something that he had made death threats over became not only welcome but highly sought after.

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
When Jack stole Chris's [[PSN]] accounts, Chris asked him "Why don't you come down to my house yourself in person, unless you are the cowardly weakling?" Jack had to remind him that he (Jack) held all the cards, and Chris was in no position to make demands.

===[[THAT IS MY HOUSE]]===
After his parents ordered that he remove all copies of his [[Tour of Chris's House|video tour of]] [[14 Branchland Court]] from the Internet, Chris made another video in which he made his demand that all the copies of the tour which had been uploaded by trolls be taken down. Rather than calmly and politely explaining that the videos posed a threat to the safety of his family (which would likely have gotten at least ''some'' of the trolls to remove their copies), Chris loudly shrieks like a child and even turns his demands from being idiotic to being vaguely insulting by admitting it was his fault for uploading the videos, then immediately threatening the trolls with detectives and police if they didn't immediately do as he asked. Humorously, [[Bob]] does a better job at mentioning how serious the situation is, but because Chris didn't include his speech in the final video, the damage the trolls would cause in result was inevitable.

===[[Sweetheart]] [[saga]]s===
Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "sweethearts" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or bus fare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the D.C. area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put more effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

During the Julie saga, Chris made several deals with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[The Miscreants]], all of which he reneged on:

*In the first deal, Chris agreed to do a video where he came out of the closet to save Julie's life. In the [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 1|first take]], he called himself a "[[gaybian]]", which was done so that he could somehow say he was gay without actually calling himself gay. He did a [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 2|second take]] where he clearly stated that he was being forced to say he was gay. When he finally did call himself a homosexual, he mumbled it and stated he was "guhhhhh".

*The second deal was that Chris would clean his room to save Julie's life and that he would do a video to prove it was clean. To avoid having to clean his room, he merely pushed some of his stuff aside and filmed his floor for 30 seconds before he did his [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|Captain's Log]].

*The final deal resulted in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call. [[BlueSpike]], as both Julie and her kid brother Max, had gained access to Chris's [[PSN]] account. In the guise of Max, he offered Chris an ultimatum: The [[PSN]] and Yahoo! accounts or Julie. In a conversation before the call, Chris told Max that he chose Julie, believing that, like in the movies and TV, he would get both back for "making the right choice". Right when "Max" put "Julie" on, Chris immediately asked "her" to get his PSN and Yahoo! back. Failing that, he tried to guilt Max into giving it back to him. In the main call, Max gives Chris one last chance to change his choice. He sticks with Julie, despite the hold that his PSN account has over him. When Max threatened to sell his account on eBay, he revealed that he "made the right choice" and that he deserves his PSN.

===Chris, [[CWCipedia]] captain===
When he was given his wiki for free, he demanded complete executive control from day one. In Chris's mind, this meant that every demand he made would be fulfilled by the staff and that anything done without his permission would be removed immediately. He insisted on a gaudy background, and [[CWCipedia#Traitorous mutiny|threatened to stop working]] whenever the [[Cogsdev|webmaster]] displeased him. Later, when Jack Thaddeus graciously paid for the CWCipedia's webspace with ads featuring homoerotic images, Chris went on a tirade and immediately demanded that they be taken down, yet refused to even consider paying for his website. When removal failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller, as if he had some say in how large advertisements were. Chris had no concept of how advertising worked but merely assumed that he had the final say in everything.

Later, during the "popularity contest" between ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and ''[[Asperchu]]'', he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]] to remove ''Asperchu'' ads from the front page of the CWCipedia. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to ''Sonichu''. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his apologies. Chris's list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game from his [[Xbox|Xbox 360]], blew up said Xbox, and freed a group of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse. After finally fulfilling most of Alec's requests in a substandard and slapdash manner, Chris killed him, his webmaster and two other comic artists in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] as some sort of childish form of revenge.

===Simonla===
[[Evan]] created Simonchu as a joke, giving permission to use him in the comic, but then Chris decided to instead make his own female version named [[Simonla Rosechu]]. This (along with [[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails|Chris openly lying that he was given permission to alter the character]]) roused Evan's ire considerably and started a long fight for the future of a recolor OC. Evan demanded that Chris remove Simonla from the comic and Chris, naturally, was tenacious in his attempts to prevent Simonla from meeting her untimely demise. At first, Chris simply ignored Evan's orders. Then ([[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly|after plans to include Simonchu as Simonla's brother didn't appease Evan]]) Chris later contrived a new excuse to disregard the wishes of a perceived foe and keep what rightfully wasn't his: [[Chris and reality|that Simonla was happily living in CWCville with a boyfriend and it would be a cruel violation of her rights to kill her for good]].

Evan gave further demands but Chris continued to dig in his heels, even [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|nonchalantly explaining his egocentric delusions to]] [[Alec Benson Leary]] (who was dealing with Chris's domineering attitude toward the [[CWCipedia]] as was) in an attempt to justify sparing a stolen OC. Only when the CWCipedia was shut down by force did Chris ''finally'' budge and even then, his compliance amounted to no more than a toilet explosion as her cause of death. And to say nothing of the "revenge" Chris graphically dished out to a fictionalized portrayal of Evan afterwards.

===[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]===
[[Image:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|thumb|Refusing to help Chris terrorize a retail setting [[Unban contracts|proves you are a most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person]]]]
Less than two years after getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris wouldn't take no for an answer, so he decided to try and persuade Michael Snyder to let him resume patronage. When an apology attempt was met with point-blank rejection (as well as [[Chris and race|an anti-Semitic insult]] and a call to the police), Chris demanded his fanbase harass Mike in retribution on his behalf. Unfortunately for Chris, his decision to record the altercation as "evidence", in case he needed to prove ''he'' was faced with aggression, led to his "fans" praising Mike for sticking to his guns against Chris.

===PlayStation Network===
Often, trolls will gain access to Chris's PSN, and make various demands. The most common of these demands is that he sell or throw out some of his beloved toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a glance at his PSN account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'', ''[[God of War]] 3'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'', which leaves most of his [[List of Chris's games|vast collection of games]] untouched. Even though he doesn't use the majority of the toys and games he owns, he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something that would improve his life.

Between late [[August 2010]] and early [[September 2010]], Chris was met with the opportunity (not really) of gaining $9,001 in exchange for the [[The MovingForward videos|destruction of]] [[ItIsFinished.MOV|his PS3]]. Needless to say, [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|it didn't go well]]. The bounty was only for trolls and was, in turn, fake. However, Chris tried to haggle (albeit ''very'' poorly) with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] to get something that never existed. The ultimate result of this was Chris [[Charlottesville Fashion Square#Chris captured on video|actually waiting for his money at the Charlottesville Fashion Square]] after being tricked into going there. After realizing he had been tricked, he ended by telling them to "go point at your own damn snouts and Oink like [[South Park|Eric Cartman]], and then [[Rape]] yourselves with your own Damn [[Sex toys|Darth Maul Dual Light Saber]]."

===[[3DS Flipnote|Flipnote Studio on 3DS]]===
In one of Chris's many [[Flipnote Studio]] creations, he requests that Nintendo port the software to their 3DS platform. In typical Chris fashion, his animation consists of him [[Chris and anger|yelling loudly]] and demanding that Nintendo bring the software to the 3DS. Chris had sped his voice up to the point where it's hard to decipher what he's saying, but he assumes that being loud will get you what you want. Throughout the entire animation, his tone of voice and choice of words suggest that [[Chris and his Ego|he's under the impression that he's some sort of spokesperson]] for all Flipnote users. Nintendo eventually released ''Flipnote Studio 3D'' in [[February 2015]].

===[[Calling Out]]===
Returning to [[YouTube]] after an 8-month hiatus, Chris decided to confront two of his trolls, [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]], over what they've done and demanded that Tito apologize to Sony over the hackings and to [[The Wallflower]] for "breaking them up", then give him [[Chris and money|$1000]], and telling Thorg to apologize for putting up pictures years ago and to put up a non-slanderous billboard saying that Chris is [[STRAIGHT]]. He also wants them to remove all contributions to the [[CWCki]]. If these weren't done, he'd reveal their pictures and possible other dox and have the trolls troll them.

Unlike the incident involving Clyde Cash resulting in [[Twin Falling Towers|a very poorly made decision]], Chris honestly believes he has the upper hand and can finally pay back against some of his trolls. However, what he's doing isn't a negotiation, but an [[Chris and the Law|extortion]], expecting these goals to be completed or they were to suffer the consequences with Chris doing nothing on his part.

===[[eBay]] and [[Craigslist]] sales===
Chris's idea of salesmanship is interesting, to say the least. He attempts to sell mostly old, broken or worthless items and tends to demand many times the item's actual value in exchange, often non-negotiable. An early example was his attempt to sell an ancient television on Craigslist, demanding ''$250'' for a piece of junk he'd be lucky to sell for a tenth of that sum.

Since then, he has become a much more prolific e-merchant, and has whittled away [[2014]] charging thousands of dollars for his "[[art]]" on eBay, showing that he is still [[Chris and reality|delusional]] enough to [[Chris and his Ego|vastly overestimate his e-fame and artistic talent]]. Similarly, he tried to sell his late father's replica of a Stradivarius violin for almost ''$100,000'', as if he believed that a violin with a manufactured label saying it was made in the 1950s on its interior could be the real thing. Most recently, he has attempted to sell his and his mother's ancient, barely-functioning cars. Typical of Chris, he is demanding thousands of dollars for cars which are worth maybe a few hundred (as scrap). He also characteristically demands that the deal in question is of a "no-haggle" nature even when setting unrealistic asking prices on sites where haggling is often the norm.

Needless to say, most of Chris's merchandise either go unsold, or he is forced to accept a more realistic price for it. We can only assume the rest is bought by his [[Trolls|most avid fans]] who [[Medallions#Obtaining medallions|glory in the opportunity to possess samples of his fine work]].

However, Chris may not just ask for ridiculous prices in exchange for his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitty]] [[Medallions#Mark 2|possessions]] because he's taking his prospective buyers for [[Naïve|fools]], but because [[Chris and money|he doesn't know the first thing about value]]. Consider his lavish spending sprees that transcend his ability to fund them; his parents taught him nothing about the value of money, which he thinks can be pissed away nonchalantly. He also struggles with measurement, as evidenced by his estimation of a 12-pack of canned lemonade weighing 50 pounds, a symptom of [[autism]], it's possible that his incompetence in this regard also extends to an estimation of value.

The reality, however, could also be something much more sinister. The high prices he sets for his goods may not be due to ignorance of value, but a symptom of his abject materialism and hoarding, inherited from [[Barb]]. It's possible that Chris is so attached to and obsessed with his material possessions that he seriously finds his ludicrous prices an acceptable consolation for him to have to give up part of his precious hoard.

===[[Unban contracts]]===
[[Image:Gamestop 02.jpg|thumb|Notice the small print, wherein Chris accidentally gives [[Manajerks]] further reason to keep him out of their establishments]]
In [[October 2016]], Chris delivered contracts to at least two stores (Gamestop and Best Buy) from which he was banned. In these contracts (which were likely not signed), he puts in a clause stating the stores in question can't call the [[JERKOPS|police]] against him (making the contract null and void, since contracts can't protect against prosecution.) He also wants the managers to "forgive and forget," and claims that not signing proves they are "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person."

===[[Sonic World]]===
If, for whatever reason, you needed further proof that Chris hasn't learned from previous failures at negotiation, the trouble he got into with the Sonic World Discord server in late 2020 is a perfect example.

Chris took Cirrusfire's Sonichu character mod and reposted it with considerable alterations (i.e. replacing the soundbites and character bio with what he made) and absolutely zero permission from the modder whatsoever. After he was rightfully kicked from the Discord server for this unwanted misuse of someone else's hard work (as well as [[December_2020_social_media_posts#Chris_.22setting_the_record_straight.22|an egocentric tirade on his Twitter]] with more expression of his delusions), he went to have a word with Cirrusfire himself.

Instead of acknowledging he had done something wrong and offering to work things out ([[Chris and remorse|which no one would expect from Chris by this point anyway]]), he opted to berate Cirrusfire. Not only was he under the impression that him crediting the modder and Sonic World being a non-profit fan project would justify meddling with data unauthorized, but he also proceeded to claim ''[[Chris and his ego|he]]'' was hurt by his so-called act of "generosity" to help Cirrusfire be "made famous" and outright accuse him (along with others in the server) of being [[Chris and hypocrisy|"ungrateful and selfish"]].

Sure enough, [[List_of_places_that_have_banned_Chris#Sonic_World_DX|Chris was eventually banned from the server]], no closer to getting what he wanted than every previous conflict he failed to amicably resolve by his own fault.

===[[Jail Saga|In court]]===

When Chris was arrested in [[August 2021]], he found himself before the courts to be arraigned for the charges. After being reminded that said appearance was to determine if he would be given bond or not (based on his likeliness to appear on trial and if he, the defendant, constituted a danger to himself and others,) Chris made demands that [[Chris and reality|he be let home]] to collect [[Toys|his things]], but not before risking contempt of court by doing things such as stomping his feet in anger and interrupting the judge several times with inane outbursts such as: "I'm famous on the internet!"

Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>

==Chris's tactics==
===Ignoring reality===
When Chris is faced with a task requiring any effort on his part (no matter how minimal) or involves something that does not benefit him, he completely ignores it. Chris automatically disregards anything that will not benefit him immediately, or almost immediately. The hardest part of negotiating with Chris is that, if you make a demand that he does not agree to, he shuts down. Like a spoiled infant, Chris will not even deal with something that isn't self-serving and easy.

On the other hand, when you have something Chris wants, Chris will not give up until he has acquired it - on his terms. When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway or claim that the rules are discriminatory and unfair. Chris will pursue his goal thoughtlessly and simple-mindedly - expending great resources in the process - often ignoring even the idea that he might not get what he wants. In the process, he frequently acts as if he has some sort of leverage even in situations where this is manifestly not the case — he continually made demands of the CWCipedia's administrators, for instance, even though they had full control over the website and he had none.

Also (whether you think it's due to being [[naïve]] about how real-world humans work or a failed attempt at deliberate manipulation), Chris seems to assume that if it comes straight from his mouth in a situation where he expects complete benefits, what he says would (and should) be immediately accepted by the other party, willfully ignoring literally ''anything'' to signify he is neither True nor Honest. His many [[Chris and remorse|"apologies"]], for one thing, which he seems to think will make anyone denying him what he wants change their mind and let him live a consequence-free lifestyle (which of course is largely because of Chris actively defying established rules and norms for socially acceptable behaviour in the first place).

===Altering reality===
In some instances (the rare ones that he does what he was instructed to), anything said or done he feels slandered his good name he will simply state are lies and instruct everyone to ignore them, then will [[Mailbag 2|close his mind]] on the subject. This is retarded for two reasons. By telling his "fans" to ignore the lies, he is alerting "fans" that are a little behind on what's happening with Chris of their existence, making more people see them than would have if he didn't acknowledge them. He is also showing he is aware of their existence, and still insisting they are lies.

As mentioned above, Chris will also expect any lie he makes in a conflict where he is hopeful to get something he wants to be taken at face value, no matter what. To name one specific case, whilst on the verge of facing legal action if he didn't stop using Simonla in his comic, Chris claimed that he could've easily come up with the character entirely on his own and later edited Simonla's CWCipedia entry with a false statement that no OC theft ever occurred. Predictably enough, no one bought this lie.

===Delays===

[[File:PornRequest.png|thumb|You can't go wrong with MLP porn over paying your debt!]]

When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (most noticeably deadlines), he will explain that he is "working on it". To Chris, saying this is an acceptable substitute for actual work, whether or not he is indeed "working on it". If in his own good time, Chris feels inclined to fulfill the deal, he'll submit whenever he wants to, regardless of the original agreement, well after the deadline. If the agreement was that he would receive something for the "work" done, he will demand it unceasingly, despite not holding up his end of the deal in any way, shape, or form.

Even if Chris somehow agrees to a set of terms, he will try to get around them. If he agrees to give something up for someone, he will go behind that person's back to get it back so that he could have both. If he agrees to draw a comic, he will most likely do something easier, like making a video or write a blog entry, figuring that that counts as work. If he agrees to willingly slander himself (like calling himself gay, for instance), he'll either mumble it so that it's incomprehensible, or he'll hide his face.

==References==
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Chris and negotiation

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[[File:Executiveprotestcard.jpg|thumb|300px|Chris and his Mary Sue ponysona, [[Night Star]], "negotiating" with the perpetually smiling executives of Hasbro over his [[My Little Pony Protests|desire for ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' to continue]] as depicted in one of his [[TSSSF]] cards.]]

While dealing with Chris, [[trolls]] often experience his unique form of '''negotiation'''. Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a [[Barbara Chandler|lifetime of coddling]] and [[autism|other factors beyond his control]], Chris has no grasp of how to compromise and often fails to understand what sort of bargaining position he's in.

Often, [[trolls]] blackmailing Chris will find him making demands of them as if he were the one with leverage. Conversely, some have experienced the oddity of having Chris run away from a situation where he was purposely given the upper hand. When it comes to dealing with Chris directly, one can only expect that he will always take the path of least resistance, even if it doesn't benefit him.

==Concept of compromise==
Negotiation is based on compromise. Both parties must work together and make concessions to each other to find the best possible solution to their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this, and arguably ''cannot'' understand this, given his severely stunted ability to understand that other people have thoughts and feelings that differ from his own. Being completely ego-centric, Chris believes that, in any exchange, both parties must share the same viewpoint: his. Chris can't stand any form of prolonged confrontation and quickly tires if his demands aren't met exactly as he has made them.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate either by making ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up (or do anything at all for that matter). After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PlayStation 3]].

Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he doxed [[Mr. Smith]].

It's worth stating that Chris once claimed [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] was "a very strong negotiator" and that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] "used to have better negotiation skills"<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>. Given their history of [[Mailbag 18#Instead the courts were on the side of justice|feuds]] [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School#The_aftermath|with]] [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris Gets the Boot|authority]] on Chris's behalf, it's safe to assume where his approach to conflict-solving (and that's putting it charitably) had come from.

==Chris's Attempted Negotiations==
===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===
{{quote|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: -I will never hang notes on the wall again. -I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan. -I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg|thumb|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of wrongdoings to make up for, according to Chris]]
One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

[[2009|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't previously blocked him).

To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him, similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably did not cut ice likewise.

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a [[CWC Update 26 January 2009|video]] where he pretended to come back from Redmond when he never left the house. Chris demanded that the CEO of an international company come to HIS house and meet with him. When Chris was pressed as to why the meeting had to be at his house, Chris said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, Chris made various excuses and cited his very brief employment at [[Wendy's]]. He also insulted Miyamoto, asking him "Are you the "Mario" who Plays Fair, or the "Bowser/Koopa" who Cheats and Lies?" This sort of "pass the buck" attitude is very common when dealing with Chris. Nothing negative can ever be his fault.

===[[Audiobooks]]===
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|Never considered softly manipulating your target of death threats into giving you money? Only a ''[[Chris_and_English#Spelling|geinus]]'' like Chris would think of such a negotiation tactic.]]
In [[2009]], Chris came into contact with [[Vivian Gee]], a [[white knight]] who eventually turned into a troll. Vivian was very helpful to Chris at first, but Chris refused to hear any of her input. As a result, their relationship soured, and Vivian started a popular ''Sonichu'' parody audiobook that Chris despised. [[4 September 2009|Chris ranted and raved]], demanding that the audiobooks be removed. They were not. One month later, Chris quickly changed his tune. After taking out a [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] on the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|''name'' "Sonichu"]], Chris believed he now had magical copyright powers and demanded that Vivian give him 25% of all the profits she'd made from the audiobooks (which was $0). Overnight, something that he had made death threats over became not only welcome but highly sought after.

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
When Jack stole Chris's [[PSN]] accounts, Chris asked him "Why don't you come down to my house yourself in person, unless you are the cowardly weakling?" Jack had to remind him that he (Jack) held all the cards, and Chris was in no position to make demands.

===[[THAT IS MY HOUSE]]===
After his parents ordered that he remove all copies of his [[Tour of Chris's House|video tour of]] [[14 Branchland Court]] from the Internet, Chris made another video in which he made his demand that all the copies of the tour which had been uploaded by trolls be taken down. Rather than calmly and politely explaining that the videos posed a threat to the safety of his family (which would likely have gotten at least ''some'' of the trolls to remove their copies), Chris loudly shrieks like a child and even turns his demands from being idiotic to being vaguely insulting by admitting it was his fault for uploading the videos, then immediately threatening the trolls with detectives and police if they didn't immediately do as he asked. Humorously, [[Bob]] does a better job at mentioning how serious the situation is, but because Chris didn't include his speech in the final video, the damage the trolls would cause in result was inevitable.

===[[Sweetheart]] [[saga]]s===
Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "sweethearts" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or bus fare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the D.C. area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put more effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

During the Julie saga, Chris made several deals with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[The Miscreants]], all of which he reneged on:

*In the first deal, Chris agreed to do a video where he came out of the closet to save Julie's life. In the [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 1|first take]], he called himself a "[[gaybian]]", which was done so that he could somehow say he was gay without actually calling himself gay. He did a [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 2|second take]] where he clearly stated that he was being forced to say he was gay. When he finally did call himself a homosexual, he mumbled it and stated he was "guhhhhh".

*The second deal was that Chris would clean his room to save Julie's life and that he would do a video to prove it was clean. To avoid having to clean his room, he merely pushed some of his stuff aside and filmed his floor for 30 seconds before he did his [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|Captain's Log]].

*The final deal resulted in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call. [[BlueSpike]], as both Julie and her kid brother Max, had gained access to Chris's [[PSN]] account. In the guise of Max, he offered Chris an ultimatum: The [[PSN]] and Yahoo! accounts or Julie. In a conversation before the call, Chris told Max that he chose Julie, believing that, like in the movies and TV, he would get both back for "making the right choice". Right when "Max" put "Julie" on, Chris immediately asked "her" to get his PSN and Yahoo! back. Failing that, he tried to guilt Max into giving it back to him. In the main call, Max gives Chris one last chance to change his choice. He sticks with Julie, despite the hold that his PSN account has over him. When Max threatened to sell his account on eBay, he revealed that he "made the right choice" and that he deserves his PSN.

===Chris, [[CWCipedia]] captain===
When he was given his wiki for free, he demanded complete executive control from day one. In Chris's mind, this meant that every demand he made would be fulfilled by the staff and that anything done without his permission would be removed immediately. He insisted on a gaudy background, and [[CWCipedia#Traitorous mutiny|threatened to stop working]] whenever the [[Cogsdev|webmaster]] displeased him. Later, when Jack Thaddeus graciously paid for the CWCipedia's webspace with ads featuring homoerotic images, Chris went on a tirade and immediately demanded that they be taken down, yet refused to even consider paying for his website. When removal failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller, as if he had some say in how large advertisements were. Chris had no concept of how advertising worked but merely assumed that he had the final say in everything.

Later, during the "popularity contest" between ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and ''[[Asperchu]]'', he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]] to remove ''Asperchu'' ads from the front page of the CWCipedia. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to ''Sonichu''. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his apologies. Chris's list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game from his [[Xbox|Xbox 360]], blew up said Xbox, and freed a group of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse. After finally fulfilling most of Alec's requests in a substandard and slapdash manner, Chris killed him, his webmaster and two other comic artists in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] as some sort of childish form of revenge.

===Simonla===
[[Evan]] created Simonchu as a joke, giving permission to use him in the comic, but then Chris decided to instead make his own female version named [[Simonla Rosechu]]. This (along with [[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails|Chris openly lying that he was given permission to alter the character]]) roused Evan's ire considerably and started a long fight for the future of a recolor OC. Evan demanded that Chris remove Simonla from the comic and Chris, naturally, was tenacious in his attempts to prevent Simonla from meeting her untimely demise. At first, Chris simply ignored Evan's orders. Then ([[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly|after plans to include Simonchu as Simonla's brother didn't appease Evan]]) Chris later contrived a new excuse to disregard the wishes of a perceived foe and keep what rightfully wasn't his: [[Chris and reality|that Simonla was happily living in CWCville with a boyfriend and it would be a cruel violation of her rights to kill her for good]].

Evan gave further demands but Chris continued to dig in his heels, even [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|nonchalantly explaining his egocentric delusions to]] [[Alec Benson Leary]] (who was dealing with Chris's domineering attitude toward the [[CWCipedia]] as was) in an attempt to justify sparing a stolen OC. Only when the CWCipedia was shut down by force did Chris ''finally'' budge and even then, his compliance amounted to no more than a toilet explosion as her cause of death. And to say nothing of the "revenge" Chris graphically dished out to a fictionalized portrayal of Evan afterwards.

===[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]===
[[Image:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|thumb|Refusing to help Chris terrorize a retail setting [[Unban contracts|proves you are a most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person]]]]
Less than two years after getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris wouldn't take no for an answer, so he decided to try and persuade Michael Snyder to let him resume patronage. When an apology attempt was met with point-blank rejection (as well as [[Chris and race|an anti-Semitic insult]] and a call to the police), Chris demanded his fanbase harass Mike in retribution on his behalf. Unfortunately for Chris, his decision to record the altercation as "evidence", in case he needed to prove ''he'' was faced with aggression, led to his "fans" praising Mike for sticking to his guns against Chris.

===PlayStation Network===
Often, trolls will gain access to Chris's PSN, and make various demands. The most common of these demands is that he sell or throw out some of his beloved toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a glance at his PSN account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'', ''[[God of War]] 3'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'', which leaves most of his [[List of Chris's games|vast collection of games]] untouched. Even though he doesn't use the majority of the toys and games he owns, he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something that would improve his life.

Between late [[August 2010]] and early [[September 2010]], Chris was met with the opportunity (not really) of gaining $9,001 in exchange for the [[The MovingForward videos|destruction of]] [[ItIsFinished.MOV|his PS3]]. Needless to say, [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|it didn't go well]]. The bounty was only for trolls and was, in turn, fake. However, Chris tried to haggle (albeit ''very'' poorly) with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] to get something that never existed. The ultimate result of this was Chris [[Charlottesville Fashion Square#Chris captured on video|actually waiting for his money at the Charlottesville Fashion Square]] after being tricked into going there. After realizing he had been tricked, he ended by telling them to "go point at your own damn snouts and Oink like [[South Park|Eric Cartman]], and then [[Rape]] yourselves with your own Damn [[Sex toys|Darth Maul Dual Light Saber]]."

===[[3DS Flipnote|Flipnote Studio on 3DS]]===
In one of Chris's many [[Flipnote Studio]] creations, he requests that Nintendo port the software to their 3DS platform. In typical Chris fashion, his animation consists of him [[Chris and anger|yelling loudly]] and demanding that Nintendo bring the software to the 3DS. Chris had sped his voice up to the point where it's hard to decipher what he's saying, but he assumes that being loud will get you what you want. Throughout the entire animation, his tone of voice and choice of words suggest that [[Chris and his Ego|he's under the impression that he's some sort of spokesperson]] for all Flipnote users. Nintendo eventually released ''Flipnote Studio 3D'' in [[February 2015]].

===[[Calling Out]]===
Returning to [[YouTube]] after an 8-month hiatus, Chris decided to confront two of his trolls, [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]], over what they've done and demanded that Tito apologize to Sony over the hackings and to [[The Wallflower]] for "breaking them up", then give him [[Chris and money|$1000]], and telling Thorg to apologize for putting up pictures years ago and to put up a non-slanderous billboard saying that Chris is [[STRAIGHT]]. He also wants them to remove all contributions to the [[CWCki]]. If these weren't done, he'd reveal their pictures and possible other dox and have the trolls troll them.

Unlike the incident involving Clyde Cash resulting in [[Twin Falling Towers|a very poorly made decision]], Chris honestly believes he has the upper hand and can finally pay back against some of his trolls. However, what he's doing isn't a negotiation, but an [[Chris and the Law|extortion]], expecting these goals to be completed or they were to suffer the consequences with Chris doing nothing on his part.

===[[eBay]] and [[Craigslist]] sales===
Chris's idea of salesmanship is interesting, to say the least. He attempts to sell mostly old, broken or worthless items and tends to demand many times the item's actual value in exchange, often non-negotiable. An early example was his attempt to sell an ancient television on Craigslist, demanding ''$250'' for a piece of junk he'd be lucky to sell for a tenth of that sum.

Since then, he has become a much more prolific e-merchant, and has whittled away [[2014]] charging thousands of dollars for his "[[art]]" on eBay, showing that he is still [[Chris and reality|delusional]] enough to [[Chris and his Ego|vastly overestimate his e-fame and artistic talent]]. Similarly, he tried to sell his late father's replica of a Stradivarius violin for almost ''$100,000'', as if he believed that a violin with a manufactured label saying it was made in the 1950s on its interior could be the real thing. Most recently, he has attempted to sell his and his mother's ancient, barely-functioning cars. Typical of Chris, he is demanding thousands of dollars for cars which are worth maybe a few hundred (as scrap). He also characteristically demands that the deal in question is of a "no-haggle" nature even when setting unrealistic asking prices on sites where haggling is often the norm.

Needless to say, most of Chris's merchandise either go unsold, or he is forced to accept a more realistic price for it. We can only assume the rest is bought by his [[Trolls|most avid fans]] who [[Medallions#Obtaining medallions|glory in the opportunity to possess samples of his fine work]].

However, Chris may not just ask for ridiculous prices in exchange for his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitty]] [[Medallions#Mark 2|possessions]] because he's taking his prospective buyers for [[Naïve|fools]], but because [[Chris and money|he doesn't know the first thing about value]]. Consider his lavish spending sprees that transcend his ability to fund them; his parents taught him nothing about the value of money, which he thinks can be pissed away nonchalantly. He also struggles with measurement, as evidenced by his estimation of a 12-pack of canned lemonade weighing 50 pounds, a symptom of [[autism]], it's possible that his incompetence in this regard also extends to an estimation of value.

The reality, however, could also be something much more sinister. The high prices he sets for his goods may not be due to ignorance of value, but a symptom of his abject materialism and hoarding, inherited from [[Barb]]. It's possible that Chris is so attached to and obsessed with his material possessions that he seriously finds his ludicrous prices an acceptable consolation for him to have to give up part of his precious hoard.

===[[Unban contracts]]===
[[Image:Gamestop 02.jpg|thumb|Notice the small print, wherein Chris accidentally gives [[Manajerks]] further reason to keep him out of their establishments]]
In [[October 2016]], Chris delivered contracts to at least two stores (Gamestop and Best Buy) from which he was banned. In these contracts (which were likely not signed), he puts in a clause stating the stores in question can't call the [[JERKOPS|police]] against him (making the contract null and void, since contracts can't protect against prosecution.) He also wants the managers to "forgive and forget," and claims that not signing proves they are "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person."

===[[Sonic World]]===
If, for whatever reason, you needed further proof that Chris hasn't learned from previous failures at negotiation, the trouble he got into with the Sonic World Discord server in late 2020 is a perfect example.

Chris took Cirrusfire's Sonichu character mod and reposted it with considerable alterations (i.e. replacing the soundbites and character bio with what he made) and absolutely zero permission from the modder whatsoever. After he was rightfully kicked from the Discord server for this unwanted misuse of someone else's hard work (as well as [[December_2020_social_media_posts#Chris_.22setting_the_record_straight.22|an egocentric tirade on his Twitter]] with more expression of his delusions), he went to have a word with Cirrusfire himself.

Instead of acknowledging he had done something wrong and offering to work things out ([[Chris and remorse|which no one would expect from Chris by this point anyway]]), he opted to berate Cirrusfire. Not only was he under the impression that him crediting the modder and Sonic World being a non-profit fan project would justify meddling with data unauthorized, but he also proceeded to claim ''[[Chris and his ego|he]]'' was hurt by his so-called act of "generosity" to help Cirrusfire be "made famous" and outright accuse him (along with others in the server) of being [[Chris and hypocrisy|"ungrateful and selfish"]].

Sure enough, [[List_of_places_that_have_banned_Chris#Sonic_World_DX|Chris was eventually banned from the server]], no closer to getting what he wanted than every previous conflict he failed to amicably resolve by his own fault.

===[[Jail Saga|In court]]===

When Chris was arrested in [[August 2021]], he found himself before the courts to be arraigned for the charges. After being reminded that said appearance was to determine if he would be given bond or not (based on his likeliness to appear on trial and if he, the defendant, constituted a danger to himself and others,) Chris made demands that [[Chris and reality|he be let home]] to collect [[Toys|his things]], but not before risking contempt of court by doing things such as stomping his feet in anger and interrupting the judge several times with inane outbursts such as: "I'm famous on the internet!"

Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>

==Chris's tactics==
===Ignoring reality===
When Chris is faced with a task requiring any effort on his part (no matter how minimal) or involves something that does not benefit him, he completely ignores it. Chris automatically disregards anything that will not benefit him immediately, or almost immediately. The hardest part of negotiating with Chris is that, if you make a demand that he does not agree to, he shuts down. Like a spoiled infant, Chris will not even deal with something that isn't self-serving and easy.

On the other hand, when you have something Chris wants, Chris will not give up until he has acquired it - on his terms. When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway or claim that the rules are discriminatory and unfair. Chris will pursue his goal thoughtlessly and simple-mindedly - expending great resources in the process - often ignoring even the idea that he might not get what he wants. In the process, he frequently acts as if he has some sort of leverage even in situations where this is manifestly not the case — he continually made demands of the CWCipedia's administrators, for instance, even though they had full control over the website and he had none.

Also (whether you think it's due to being [[naïve]] about how real-world humans work or a failed attempt at deliberate manipulation), Chris seems to assume that if it comes straight from his mouth in a situation where he expects complete benefits, what he says would (and should) be immediately accepted by the other party, willfully ignoring literally ''anything'' to signify he is neither True nor Honest. His many [[Chris and remorse|"apologies"]], for one thing, which he seems to think will make anyone denying him what he wants change their mind and let him live a consequence-free lifestyle (which of course is largely because of Chris actively defying established rules and norms for socially acceptable behaviour in the first place).

===Altering reality===
In some instances (the rare ones that he does what he was instructed to), anything said or done he feels slandered his good name he will simply state are lies and instruct everyone to ignore them, then will [[Mailbag 2|close his mind]] on the subject. This is retarded for two reasons. By telling his "fans" to ignore the lies, he is alerting "fans" that are a little behind on what's happening with Chris of their existence, making more people see them than would have if he didn't acknowledge them. He is also showing he is aware of their existence, and still insisting they are lies.

As mentioned above, Chris will also expect any lie he makes in a conflict where he is hopeful to get something he wants to be taken at face value, no matter what. To name one specific case, whilst on the verge of facing legal action if he didn't stop using Simonla in his comic, Chris claimed that he could've easily come up with the character entirely on his own and later edited Simonla's CWCipedia entry with a false statement that no OC theft ever occurred. Predictably enough, no one bought this lie.

===Delays===

[[File:PornRequest.png|thumb|You can't go wrong with MLP porn over paying your debt!]]

When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (most noticeably deadlines), he will explain that he is "working on it". To Chris, saying this is an acceptable substitute for actual work, whether or not he is indeed "working on it". If in his own good time, Chris feels inclined to fulfill the deal, he'll submit whenever he wants to, regardless of the original agreement, well after the deadline. If the agreement was that he would receive something for the "work" done, he will demand it unceasingly, despite not holding up his end of the deal in any way, shape, or form.

Even if Chris somehow agrees to a set of terms, he will try to get around them. If he agrees to give something up for someone, he will go behind that person's back to get it back so that he could have both. If he agrees to draw a comic, he will most likely do something easier, like making a video or write a blog entry, figuring that that counts as work. If he agrees to willingly slander himself (like calling himself gay, for instance), he'll either mumble it so that it's incomprehensible, or he'll hide his face.

==References==
<references />

{{Chris and}}

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FurryChristorian789: /* Should Chris actually have a child? */

{{Incomplete}}

[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris with his "children", "grandchildren", a fictious [[Transformers|Transformer]], and his real-life parents.]]

Chris has numerous '''imaginary family members''' that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex|benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family. Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

[[file:chrisansestore.jpg|thumb| Native American Representation]]

The leader of the [[Cherokian Clan]] is a fictional ancestor of Chris, originating from Chris’s belief that he is part Cherokee, which was disproven in 2018 after Chris took a 23andme dna test.

The character is a Caucasian [[Chris and race|Aryan]] man wearing a Roman chest plate Halloween costume, showing how little Chris knew about the people he supposedly descended from. The character looks identical to Chris, who is meant to be his reincarnation.

He first makes an appearance in episode 7 of sonichu #2, introducing himself as Chris’s ancestor, tells him to kill [[Count Graduon]], and gives him his sonichu powers.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)}}

==Patti-Chan==
[[file:Patti-Chancard.jpg|thumb|Right|He couldn't let her rest now, did he?]]
{{Main|Patti-Chan}}

'''Patti Chandler''' (17 March [[1988]] - 27 [[June 2006]]) was [[Chris]]'s childhood dog, a {{w|Beagle}}-{{w|spitz}} mix who was put down in [[2006]], then brought back as a character in CWCville. Patti grew up with Chris and was the closest thing he had to a sibling, since his [[Cole Smithey| half brother]] wanted nothing to do with his family. In a phone call with [[Clyde Cash]], Chris compares the death of Clyde’s brother to the death of Patti, offending Clyde. Chris defended this by stating that Patti was like a sibling.

Chris brought Patti back to life in [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' 6]] as [[Patti-Chan]] (a character created by [[Megan Schroeder]] to help Chris [[Chris and coping|cope]] with the loss of his beloved pet), where she somehow gained the ability to walk, talk, and apply for [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]] in [[CWCville]].

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for [[Sonichu 0 HD|Sonichu #0 HD]], he made Sonichu call him "Mother" to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line, with Chris performing several [[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu|sexual]] [[Sonichu 13#Chris and Sonichu rape each other|acts]] on him due to the influence of the trolls, most notably, the [[Idea Guys]].

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)}}

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''Maybe.''' Although it would probably require a fair bit of luck and the kid is likely to come out being [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]].

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding [[Fiona|a willing female]]. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|once Chris began using HRT in sessions]], Chris destroyed what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at near 0%. While he is on the medication, we can't be quite sure if he is taking it regularly or in the right amounts.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world,<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Need my daughter]]</ref> but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up, and he was under distress due to the manipulation of the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced him that [[Cryzel Torture|they would only stop torturing his imaginary wife if he made the sex tape]]. That being said, some later [[Incest Texts|text-based details]] of ambiguous authenticity during [[Affair with Mother|Chris's "soul-bonding" with his mother]] in 2021 suggested that he used his penis to have sex with Barb. Although Barb was long since infertile at that point, Chris allegedly wore a condom anyway. It's probably for the better though, as the last thing we need in this world are Barb and Chris having zombie children.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth,<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> although he seemingly dropped the idea in the following years, wishing to remain with his genitals for some unknown reason. Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a male-to-female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]] and he prefers buying [[Transformers]] anyway.

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref> Amen.

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question, then you really don't know anything about Chris. Parenting is an enormous task that takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his [[Borb|own parents]]. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he can't be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years when they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example, can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|himself]]? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in lieu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal is expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris, Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have [[Praetor|a group of exploiters]] taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his livestream money and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

Also, not to put too fine of a point on it, Chris has [[Chris and anger|virtually no aptitude for self-control and anger management whatsoever]]. Even if you were to argue that past conflicts have proven he is way too passive to assault anyone physically (one lone case apiece of [[28 October 2011|vehicular assault]] and [[26 December 2014|use of pepper spray notwithstanding]]), he'll just as easily settle for verbal outbursts and exaggerated temper tantrums in general, which can be scarring to a child as well. As documented, Chris ''did'' have a tendency to lose his temper at the smallest provocation and direct it towards young kids during the time he went to [[The GAMe PLACe]] on weekends, which (among other bad habits) eventually led to [[Michael Snyder|the manager]] banning him permanently <ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris's ban from the store]]</ref> (in fact, what prompted such was Chris getting into a heated verbal dispute with a young card gamer <ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post]]</ref>). Top that off with Chris's insistence that [[Chris and ego|everything he does is doing the right thing]] (even when it's demonstrably unacceptable) and his [[Chris and remorse|near-inability to empathize with others nor acknowledge his errors]] (only attempting to apologize if he thinks he will get something he wants in exchange for doing so) and you have a recipe for what would be ''at best'' a strained relationship between Chris and his hypothetical child(ren), if not them escaping and preventing further contact with him altogether (as his half-brother [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] did with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother|mother and her child]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with one's own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful) [[Pedofork|because children are]] [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|not able to consent to sex]].

In short, if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected, abused, and/or [[Chris_and_death#Imaginary_friends|dead]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]

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{{Incomplete}}

[[File:Cwc's sonichu family 2.jpg|thumb|right|Chris with his "children", "grandchildren", a fictious [[Transformers|Transformer]], and his real-life parents.]]

Chris has numerous '''imaginary family members''' that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex|benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family. Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

[[file:chrisansestore.jpg|thumb| Native American Representation]]

The leader of the [[Cherokian Clan]] is a fictional ancestor of Chris, originating from Chris’s belief that he is part Cherokee, which was disproven in 2018 after Chris took a 23andme dna test.

The character is a Caucasian [[Chris and race|Aryan]] man wearing a Roman chest plate Halloween costume, showing how little Chris knew about the people he supposedly descended from. The character looks identical to Chris, who is meant to be his reincarnation.

He first makes an appearance in episode 7 of sonichu #2, introducing himself as Chris’s ancestor, tells him to kill [[Count Graduon]], and gives him his sonichu powers.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)}}

==Patti-Chan==
[[file:Patti-Chancard.jpg|thumb|Right|He couldn't let her rest now, did he?]]
{{Main|Patti-Chan}}

'''Patti Chandler''' (17 March [[1988]] - 27 [[June 2006]]) was [[Chris]]'s childhood dog, a {{w|Beagle}}-{{w|spitz}} mix who was put down in [[2006]], then brought back as a character in CWCville. Patti grew up with Chris and was the closest thing he had to a sibling, since his [[Cole Smithey| half brother]] wanted nothing to do with his family. In a phone call with [[Clyde Cash]], Chris compares the death of Clyde’s brother to the death of Patti, offending Clyde. Chris defended this by stating that Patti was like a sibling.

Chris brought Patti back to life in [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' 6]] as [[Patti-Chan]] (a character created by [[Megan Schroeder]] to help Chris [[Chris and coping|cope]] with the loss of his beloved pet), where she somehow gained the ability to walk, talk, and apply for [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]] in [[CWCville]].

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for [[Sonichu 0 HD|Sonichu #0 HD]], he made Sonichu call him "Mother" to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line, with Chris performing several [[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu|sexual]] [[Sonichu 13#Chris and Sonichu rape each other|acts]] on him due to the influence of the trolls, most notably, the [[Idea Guys]].

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==
{{main|Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)}}

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''Maybe.''' Although it would probably require a fair bit of luck and the kid is likely to come out being [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]].

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding [[Fiona|a willing female]]. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|once Chris began using HRT in sessions]], Chris destroyed what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at near 0%. While he is on the medication, we can't be quite sure if he is taking it regularly or in the right amounts.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world,<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Need my daughter]]</ref> but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up, and he was under distress due to the manipulation of the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced him that [[Cryzel Torture|they would only stop torturing his imaginary wife if he made the sex tape]]. That being said, some later [[Incest Texts|text-based details]] of ambiguous authenticity during [[Affair with Mother|Chris's "soul-bonding" with his mother]] in 2021 suggested that he used his penis to have sex with Barb. Although Barb was long since infertile at that point, Chris allegedly wore a condom anyway. It's probably for the better though, as the last thing we need in this world are Barb and Chris having zombie children.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth,<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> although he seemingly dropped the idea in the following years, wishing to remain with his genitals for some unknown reason. Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a male-to-female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]] and he prefers buying [[Transformers]] anyway.

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref> Amen.

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question, then you really don't know anything about Chris. Parenting is an enormous task that takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his [[Borb|own parents]]. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he can't be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years when they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example, can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|himself]]? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in lieu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal is expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris, Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have [[Praetor|a group of exploiters]] taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his livestream money and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

Also, not to put too fine of a point on it, Chris has [[Chris and anger|virtually no aptitude for self-control and anger management whatsoever]]. Even if you were to argue that past conflicts have proven he is way too passive to assault anyone physically (one lone case apiece of [[28 October 2011|vehicular assault]] and [[26 December 2014|use of pepper spray notwithstanding]]), he'll just as easily settle for verbal outbursts and exaggerated temper tantrums in general, which can be scarring to a child as well. As documented, Chris ''did'' have a tendency to lose his temper at the smallest provocation and direct it towards young kids during the time he went to [[The GAMe PLACe]] on weekends, which (among other bad habits) eventually led to [[Michael Snyder|the manager]] banning him permanently<ref>Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris's ban from the store</ref> (in fact, what prompted such was Chris getting into a heated verbal dispute with a young card gamer<ref>Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post</ref>). Top that off with Chris's insistence that [[Chris and ego|everything he does is doing the right thing]] (even when it's demonstrably unacceptable) and his [[Chris and remorse|near-inability to empathize with others nor acknowledge his errors]] (only attempting to apologize if he thinks he will get something he wants in exchange for doing so) and you have a recipe for what would be ''at best'' a strained relationship between Chris and his hypothetical child(ren), if not them escaping and preventing further contact with him altogether (as his half-brother [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] did with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother|mother and her child]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with one's own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful) [[Pedofork|because children are]] [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|not able to consent to sex]].

In short, if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected, abused, and/or [[Chris_and_death#Imaginary_friends|dead]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
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==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]

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Sonichu (comic)

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[[Image:SonichuLogo.png|center|Man's ultimate Rorschach test.]]
[[File:Sonichu Graphic Novel Set From Zero To Awakening1.jpg|thumb|''Sonichu'', issues 0 to 7]]
{{quote|'''This''' is no parody. This is a man's life – [[Relics of Fail|his failures]], [[Chris and mental healthcare|his neuroses]], [[Chris and coping|his fantasies]], [[Chris and reality|his warped worldview]], proudly displayed for the world on paper and pixels. Reading Sonichu and learning about its author is nothing less than a descent into someone's personal hell, made all the more terrible for the fact that the author intends for the experience to '''entertain''' people. That they would '''purchase''' it. There is no joy, no fun in CWCville – there is only layer upon layer of '''horror'''.|A now-deleted "So Bad, It's Horrible" entry from the [[User:Canine/TV Tropes| TV Tropes]] article, aptly describing the experience of reading ''Sonichu''.}}

'''''Sonichu''''' is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s official life work, magnum opus, and largest contribution to society and culture. To most, however, it is a poorly-[[Chris and art|drawn]] and [[Chris and writing|written]] comic book series about the adventures and travels that befall [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a fictionalized version of himself]] and his [[imaginary friends]]. Despite starting out as a comic about the titular character, it quickly turned into a wish-fulfillment outlet for Chris and his depraved fantasies, with [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] being a main character in name only, playing second fiddle to Chris's primary {{w|Mary Sue}} self-insert. Other characters include [[Rosechu]] and Chris's many other self-inserts.

The comic began on 24 November 2004 and updated intermittently throughout the next fifteen years, and despite his extreme laziness, it still gets somewhat regular updates to this very day. Chris wanted the series to last anywhere between 75 and 100 issues, although he was in no hurry to accomplish such a feat due to multiple extended hiatuses, culminating in only 14 fully completed issues (15 if you want to count Sonichu 13).

==Introduction==
[[Image:SonicVsSonichu.jpg|thumb|180px|{{w|Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)|THE WORLD'S MOST WAY PAST COOL COMIC!}}]]

Chris first drew [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] in March 2000 after being told that he could not use [[Chris and copyright|a copyrighted character]] on a class project, so he instead came up with a [[Things Chris has ripped off|TRUE]] and [[OC|ORIGINAL]] character plagiarizing from two of his favorite video games: ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and ''[[Pokémon]]''. Later, Chris would put his web programming skills to task and come up with [[CWC's Sonichu Site!]], which showcased his various illustrations of his pride and joy. Over time, Chris would draw new characters in his own little universe that were more blatant rip-offs of the source material that he was inspired by, such as [[Rosechu]] and [[Blake]], and so Chris began to put together a couple of simple, single-page or two-page narratives for his growing cast of characters.

For a while, many of these comics were actually focused on the adventures of these characters, with no real references to the outside world, but over time, he would start to put himself into these comic strips. Dissatisfaction with his own life led Chris to use the comic as a [[Chris and coping|coping mechanism]] to achieve a sense of [[Chris and his ego|wish fulfillment]]. Since he was coming up with his story (and nothing less), he could team up with his "original" creations and make things right in [[CWCville|his idealized fantasy world]].

The inadvertent shattering of his heart from [[Sarah Hammer]], along with the expulsion from English class and the confrontation with [[Mary Lee Walsh]], provided the impetus for Christian to kick-start the comic series in full force, turning real-life figures that he encountered into citizens and villains for him and his OCs to interact with. The series initially served as a complement to his [[Love Quest]] as a feeble attempt to link an accomplishment, or boost his own self-worth to unsuspecting prey; after all, Sonichu ''is'' "Zappin' to the Extreme!" He is Christian Weston Chandler's ''only'' son, and the first ''way past cooler'' [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]!

The comics series was originally hosted on the various incarnations of Christian's [[Sonichu site|homepage]] (as seen in the [[CWCipedia]] archive). In 2013 he began to upload the comics as albums on his [[Facebook]] page, and he affirmed in 2015, when he picked up the comic again, that this would be the place to find new pages. In [[September 2015]] he finally began to sell printed and autographed issues on [[Etsy]] and Lulu.com. The comic was originally promoted from now-defunct ''Sonichu'' business cards, and he has since graduated to flyers. Each new addition to the series proudly sports a "To be continued..." disclaimer page. In fact, the comics are not updated with any regular frequency: in the twenty years since the character's creation, Chris has only completed fifteen issues, even though he has zero responsibilities and unlimited free time. Chris has claimed that in total, he plans to complete 50 to 100 issues in his lifetime,<ref>[[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]]</ref> meaning that he's 15 to 30% of the way there.

==Reader's Guide to ''Sonichu''==
{{quote|[[Chris and art|My art]] [[Chris and his ego|speaks for me.]]|Chris<ref>[[I Am The TRUE, Original Christopher Christian Weston Chandler; No Ifs, Ands or Buts]]</ref>}}

===How-to and Overview===
[[Image:Sonichu - Jargon Page.jpg|thumb|180px|The ever infamous JARGON page.]]

To start off, the comics don't appear to have a consistent numbering system in place, this can make it tricky to organize them. For example, the ''Sonichu'' series began with issue #0 instead of #1. Chris also decided to assign one of the books as "Issue #12-9" to avoid associating his Pony OC [[Nightstar]] with the number 13. The book itself was originally going to be "Issue #13", with [[Planet Dolan]] as the subject matter instead. Despite that, there was an actual "Issue #13", but only for a bunch of vaguely connected ideas brainwashed into Chris by the [[Idea Guys]] with no actual narrative in sight. The following issue,"Issue #14" was never completed, and was also the second half of Sonichu #13. Sonichu #15 was eventually renamed to Sonichu #0 HD, despite it being a different plot mostly ripping off Rosechu's Story. All of the following issues were never completed and they share the confusing number scheme, being issues #16, #17 and #82. Adding to the confusion are the "Specials", which were numbered separately from the main comics.

Adding to the confusing numbering system, Chris uses a bunch of television lingo when referring to his stories. Each issue up to Issue #12-9 contained multiple separately-numbered "episodes" and "sub-episodes". Due to the incoherent narrative structure of the stories along with their inconsistent numbering system, readers often lost track of which story happened in which issue. For example, [[Black Sonichu]] (now known as Blake) was introduced in Episode #4, which was the fifth story in the overall series and the first story in [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]], which was in turn the second comic. Further confounding matters were the [[Sub-Episodes]] about Chris's [[Love Quest]], which appeared in issues #0-4, and again were numbered separately from the main stories.

After the Idea Guys saga, bar Sonichu 0 HD, Chris has also dropped the traditional format of Sonichu. Other than the [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder]] cards, sometimes adding new "lore" to the series, the only other work of art he has worked on related to the franchise since then were long, low quality stories which one could mistake for the ramblings of a schizophrenic person, most notably [[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play]] and [[Chaos Crystal Control Act 4|Chaos Crystal Control]], which he oddly started writing in reverse, making Act 4 prior to acts 0 and 1.

Issues #0 and #1 featured [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] as the unchallenged star of the series, with [[Christian Weston Chandler (character)|Chris]] as a supporting character also appearing in the backup strips. By issue #2, the comic had abruptly transitioned to Chris encountering people from his real life in shitty [[anime]] battles. Token attempts to tell Sonichu stories and introduce Sonichu spin-off characters were made in #3, but all pretense was dropped in #4-#7 as the series becomes a vehicle for Chris, as the leader of a heroic [[Chaotic Combo|band of recolors]], to battle against [[Mary Lee Walsh|a college dean]], a group of ineffectual [[Jerkop|security guards]], [[manajerks|store managers]], and later on, [[trolls|Internet trolls]] and [[Alec Benson Leary|other people who made fun of the comic]]. Originally it was mostly innocent and harmless, being the by-product of a simple man with a childish imagination, until it became an outlet to call out trolls, explore his depraved [[Sonichu 8|sexual desires]] and live out his [[Sonichu 10|violent revenge fantasies]].

[[Image:ComicTBCont.jpg|thumb|left|180px|TO BE CONTINUED (c.) 2001-????]]
The comic series was presented as if it were a cartoon or [[anime]] (which might explain why the comics mimic visual effects that work in an audiovisual context but fail on paper), and was encapsulated into ''seasons'' with various episodes (or "series", for our European friends). [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] was intended to wrap up the "first season" of ''Sonichu''. This opened a can of worms as to the current vision of the comics: was ''Sonichu'' intended to be the hit action/adventure soap-opera TV show that is broadcast in [[CWCville]], or was it the historical documentation of Chris's and Sonichu's life and times? Perhaps it was destined to be the Gospel from the Stay-at-Home Autistic Virgin Male, [[Chris and religion#Delusions of Godhood.3F|''hallowed be His name'']]. Either way, it remained unanswered whether Chris continues on with the series because he has a vain, misguided belief that some TRUE and HONEST soul would consider these as "storyboards" for proper licensing and production.

===Art imitating life===
Sensing some criticism for the self-centeredness of his work, Chris wrote himself out of the series toward the end of [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]], trapping the Chris character in the [[Time Void]] so that the storyline could focus on other characters. Despite this, Sonichu still served as a strong Mary Sue character, as seen in Sonichu fighting [[4-cent garbage.com]] in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], as well as the clear Sue tendencies of [[Reginald Sneasel]].

He returned from the Time Void at the end of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], giving all non-Chris characters approximately one issue to have the spotlight to themselves, during which they mostly talked about how much they loved Chris and hoped he would return safely. On the final page of the issue, Chris claimed that he would write himself out of the series permanently, giving his characters the opportunity to shine on their own. He went back on this promise almost the moment he made it — issue #10 is one of the most Chris-centric of the entire series.

Following the theft of his [[Medallions of Fail]] by [[Blanca]], Chris immediately released a new comic adapting the theft into his canon and explaining that the TRUE source of his power lay in his [[Amnyfest Ring]]. Since this story was necessarily set after Chris escapes the Time Void, it was deemed a special preview of ''Sonichu'' #10, despite the fact that Chris had at that point not finished ''Sonichu'' #8 nor begun ''Sonichu'' #9.

Chris started ''Sonichu'' #11 in [[December 2009]] and completed ''Sonichu'' #10 in [[February 2010]]. He produced a revised ending to issue #10 in [[October 2010]].<ref>[[Book10Replacement]]</ref> After a long inspirationless lull, he began churning out new pages of Sonichu #11 in [[September 2015]].

==Hiatuses==
Chris has regularly lost motivation to draw comics throughout the run of the series. Without a single job held for the past 18 years, he has all the time in the world and only lacks a drive to create.

Along with the abandonment of the [[CWCipedia]] in 2010, [[Sonichu 11]] was put on hiatus later that year. Chris claimed that the trolls drained his creativity and scared him away from drawing any more ''Sonichu''.<ref>[[DrainedCreativity]]</ref>

{{Quote|I have not ended Sonichu; I only lost inspiration to draw, thanks to [[Trolls|the people online]].|Chris in 2010, on the hiatus of ''[[Sonichu 11]]''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 3]]</ref>.}}

After five years of Chris sporadically mentioning the possibility of continuing the comic, on 4 [[September 2015]], he finally added new content to ''Sonichu''. 11 new pages were added to [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] that day. He said that new pages would be added "maybe every other week". 27 pages were uploaded in 2015, but these updates were not to last; no pages were uploaded in 2016. Chris claimed that ADD<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism]]</ref> and dementia<ref>[[2017 tweets#Doopie defends Chris]]</ref> were responsible for his inactivity.

In [[June 2017]], Chris began making regular updates to the comic again, completing ''Sonichu'' #11 that month and ''Sonichu'' #12 in October. Chris announced that ''Sonichu'' #13 would be an [[Chris and copyright|unofficial]] crossover with [[Planet Dolan]] but was scrapped after he had a falling out with [[DoopieDoOver]]. In its place, Chris announced [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. 12-9 would be based around [[My Little Pony]] and feature a [[Night Star|new self-insert of his]], revolving almost entirely around ponies.

Partway through the development of #12-9, Chris's work on the comic broke down. Before #12-9 had been complete, Chris began working on ''Sonichu'' #14, which was to return to the normal ''Sonichu'' setting. He soon spilled paint on the first few unfinished pages and [[Financhu Crisis|sold them]] on [[eBay]] for a quick buck, presumably scrapping his work once again. Chris apparently still intended to complete #14, as he announced [[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]]. The comic was intended as a remake/[[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|reboot]] of the early issues. This was derailed after Chris found the fancomic "[[Things Chris has ripped off|Rosechu's Story]]", which he began to plagiarize instead of making an original story for #15.

Sonichu 15 was put on hold when communication with the [[Idea Guys]] began. These trolls made Chris illustrate [[Idea Guys#Ideas|their own narrative]], which heavily focused on the [[Nazis#Idea Guys|politically incorrect]], retcons, and generally horrible, unfunny things. Several pages were leaked in January 2018 by [[Kiwi Farms]] users in contact with the Idea Guys. After months without updates, Chris revealed in May 2018 that he had continued to work on #16, but was hesitant to release the nearly-finished comic now that he realized the Idea Guys had such an influence on it. Sonichu 16 was sent to Patreon supporters in fall of that year.

On 26 June 2019, Chris uploaded eight new pages for a new issue of ''Sonichu'' designed to be a sequel to ''Sonichu'' #16. Two days later, in a Patreon post, he would renumber issues #14, #15, and #16. ''Sonichu'' #14 would be moved to [[Sonichu 16|#16]], ''Sonichu'' #16 would be renamed ''[[Sonichu 13|The Awakening of a CPU aka The Idea Guy Corruptions]],'' (later renamed to issue #13<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#The Idea Guys.27 nonsense was meant to be]]</ref>) and the new issue would be numbered issue [[Sonichu 14|14]].

[[Sonichu 17|''Sonichu'' #17]] was later revealed to exist, but only its cover has been seen. It appears to be influenced by the Idea Guys. After jail, the cover for [[Sonichu 82|''Sonichu'' #82]] was also uploaded on Chris's [[DeviantART]].

Issues [[Sonichu 14|14]], [[Sonichu 15|15]], [[Sonichu 16|16]] and [[Sonichu 17|17]] are incomplete. Sonichu #14 was dropped after the Idea Guys lost power, Sonichu 16, or rather its few [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|brown paint covered]] pages, were sold on Ebay and issues #17 and #82 never went past the cover. Out of all of them, only Sonichu 15, renamed Sonichu #0 HD, continued having work done on it, progressing very slowly, mainly being colored in during [[December 2023 livestreams#Over the shoulder colouring stream|some of]] [[March 2024 livestreams#Christ Chan Live Stream: Over the Shoulder Colouring and Drawing 2|Chris's livestreams]].

On 11 September 2020, when asked what he felt were the best ''Sonichu'' issues, he would reply with (in no particular order) ''Sonichu'' #0, ''Sonichu'' #12-9, and ''Sonichu'' #15 [[Ego| (all of which are origin stories for a self insert character)]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 6#Best episode of Sonichu?]]</ref>

==Currently==

Like all people, Chris was at his most productive when he is motivated. The unfortunate truth is that much of Chris's motivation in earlier years came from trolls and ''being'' trolled. He has created [[List of videos|hundreds of videos]] under the influence of trolls; the same could be said for the ''Sonichu'' comics. While Chris claims that the stress from trolls prevented him from writing comics, the opposite is likely true. ''Sonichu'' issues 8 through 10 were all created during the classic trolling era, and they happen to be some of the longest comics Chris has ever made (each one around 100 pages long, compared to the usual 50-or-so page length for ''Sonichu'' comics). After those, ''Sonichu'' 11 was finished eight years after it was started, with no content in it relating to trolls. Much of the content in issue 12-9 is inspired by [[Jessica Quinn]] and the Idea Guys (who ostensibly began their mind games with Chris in order to get him to work on his comic more frequently), all of whom are trolls. The Idea Guys were even able to force an entire issue out of Chris on their own, due in no small part to their emotional manipulation and extortion of him. The only outlier of a comic post-classic-trolling-era is ''Sonichu'' 12, which was finished in half a year and had nothing to do with trolls; Chris's motivation to create #12 stemmed from his burgeoning relationship with the LGBT community.

Simply put, Chris had no real reason to be writing and illustrating new ''Sonichu'' comics, which quite bluntly have always been an exercise in boosting his self-esteem rather than an exercise in creating a coherent narrative for his own characters. The relative [[Naïve|innocence]] of the original ''Sonichu'' comics (before trolling) has long since been lost, and Chris's has generally been less productive on a creative level than since the ousting of the Idea Guys. A lack of long-term relationships has left Chris's motivation for art stagnant, while his [[Chris and reality#Fantasy and fiction|delusions]] festered. While it was not impossible for Chris to complete any of his unfinished ''Sonichu'' comics, it was unlikely he would do so without making a change in his life. And anyone that though that ''they'' should be that "change" in his life would quickly learn that [[Weening#Arguments against weening|trolling Chris is a bad idea]].

That being said, after considerable time on the backburner, Chris revealed in [[2023]] that ''[[Sonichu 0 HD]]'' (formerly known as ''Sonichu 15'') [[DeviantART#Post-jail|was still in the works]] and in [[April 2024|April of the following year]], he announced on his Twitter that he has indeed returned to working on his magnum opus<ref>April_2024_social_media_posts#Still_Doing_the_Comics</ref>. Whether he returns to his old ways (updating at his own pace) or he delays/or and stops outright yet again because of any external factors remains to be seen.

==The ''Sonichu'' canon==

===Official releases===

{|class="wikitable"
! style="background:silver;" | Issue
! style="background:silver;" colspan="2" | Episode
! style="background:silver;" width=20% | Title
! style="background:silver;" | Plot Summary
|-
| rowspan="5"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 0|'''''Sonichu'' #0''']] ''Begun'' 3 Jan [[2004]] ''Complete'' 24 Mar [[2005]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #1
| "Sonichu's Orgin"
| Sonichu and Rosechu are created by the Chaotic Rainbow. Kel adopts Rosechu. ''First appearance of [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], [[Kel]], and [[Rosechu]]. Only appearance of [[Perfect Chaos]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #2
| Sonichu in "Genesis of the Lovehogs"
| Sonichu, [[obesity|hungry]] and lonesome, follows Rosechu home to Kel. They fall in love.
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #3
| "Sonichu vs. Naitcirhc" [''sic'']
| Sonichu and Rosechu go shopping; Naitsirhc tries to kidnap Rosechu but Sonichu fights off his Zapdos and rescues Rosechu. Mayor Chris congratulates him. ''First appearance of [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc]].''
|-
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|"Classic Sonichu Strips"
| Random stupid stories with Sonichu. ''First appearance of [[Black Sonichu]] (Blake), [[Jerkops]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Only appearances of [[Metonic]], [[Vamprosa]], and [[Barbara Chandler]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #1
| "Christian Chandler in ''Jerkop-tastropie''"
| Chris is [[Calling Out|called out]] by a manajerk and transforms into Chris-Chan Sonichu to fight him and the jerkops off.
|-
| rowspan="4"|[[File:issueone.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 1|'''''Sonichu'' #1''']] ''Begun'' 31 Mar 2005 ''Complete'' 18 Apr 2005
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #4
| "Black Sonichu in ''Darkness, Speed, & Lightning!''"
| The origin of Blake! ''First appearance of [[Doctor Robotnik]], [[Giovanni]], and [[Bill the Scientist]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #5
| "Sonichu in ''Informal Meeting''"
| Blake kidnaps Rosechu. Sonic and Sonichu run into each other and then team up.
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #6
| "Sonic & Sonichu ''Black Metal Combat''"
| Sonic and Sonichu fight Robotnik's latest creation. ''Only appearance of [[Metal Sonichu]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #2
| "Christian Chandler in ''The Rise & Fall of My Heart''"
| The comic version of Chris's encounter with Hanna. ''Only appearance of [[Hanna]].''
|-
| rowspan="4"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 2, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 2|'''''Sonichu'' #2''']] ''Begun'' 24 Apr 2005 ''Complete'' 3 May 2005
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #7
| "Sonichu in ''Anchuent Prophecy''"
| Chris takes over the story as his Sonichu medallion unleashes the power of the [[Anchuent Prophecy]]. ''First appearance of [[Sarah Hammer]], [[Wes Iseli]], and the [[Ancient Leader of the Cherokee Clan]].'' ''Only appearance of the Keeper of the Destiny Cave.''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #8
| "Christian Chandler in ''Chaos & Serenity''"
| The three empowered hedgehogs meet and fight. ''First appearance of [[Wes-Li Sonichu]] and [[Saramah Rosechu]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #9
| "Chris-Chan, Saramah, & Wes-Li in ''The Evil that Stomped CWCville''"
| Saramah breaks up with Wes-Li as Slaweel the Witch makes her first big attack on CWCville! ''First appearance of [[Count Graduon]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #3
| "Christian Chandler & Sonichu in ''Witch Confront''"
| Chris and Sonichu confront Slaweel!
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 3, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 3|'''''Sonichu'' #3''']] ''Begun'' 20 Jun 2005 ''Complete'' 21 Feb [[2006]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #10
| "Sonichu Babies"
| The origins of the Chaotic Combo! ''First appearances of [[Wild Sonichu]], [[Bubbles Rosechu]], [[Magi-Chan]], [[Angelica Rosechu]], [[Punchy Sonichu]], [[Sonee and Rosey]], [[Shinabe]]. Only appearance of [[Mypoe]], and the [[Boulder-Dropping Whale]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #11
| "The Chaotic Combo in ''When Hedgehogs Meet''"
| Blake steals the Master Sunstone and the Chaotic Combo unite! ''First appearance of [[Flame the Sunbird]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #4
| "Christian Chandler in ''McAttack''"
| Chris is attacked in the M-C-D-ville by two Manajerks! ''First appearance of [[B-Manajerk]], [[Merried Seinor Comic]], [[W-M Manajerk]], and [[Darkbind Sonichu]].'' ''Only appearance of Super Chris-chan Sonichu.''
|-
| rowspan="8"|[[File:Issue4.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 4|'''''Sonichu'' #4''']] ''Begun'' 24 Mar 2005 ''Complete'' <abbr title="Precise date unknown: sometime before 2 Nov 2005.">2 Sep 2005?<abbr>
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #1
| "Christian Chandler in ''Jerkop-tastropie''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #0.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #2
| "Christian Chandler in ''The Rise & Fall of My Heart''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #1.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #3
| "Christian Chandler & Sonichu in ''Witch Confront''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #2.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #4
| "Christian Chandler in ''McAttack''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #3.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #5
| "Christian Chandler in ''McAttack Part 2''"
| Crystal appears to save the day as the W-M Manajerk attacks! ''First appearance of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)]] and [[W-M Manajerk]]. Last appearance of the [[Ancient Leader of the Cherokee Clan]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #6
| "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"
| Chris gives us an inside look at the Jerkops. ''First appearance of [[ScotPalazzo]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #7
| "Christian Chandler in ''Off-Target''"
| Bagget arrives to attack Chris! ''First appearance of [[Bagget]] and [[Crackder]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #8
| "Christian Chandler in ''Off-Target Part 2''"
| Chris is taken captive, but is rescued by Crystal!
|-
| rowspan="2"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 5, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 5|'''''Sonichu'' #5''']] ''Begun'' 29 Apr 2006 ''Complete'' 20 Jun 2006
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #12
| "Christian Chandler in ''My Best Friend's Cherokian Wedding''"
| Chris attends Sarah Hammer's wedding, which is spoiled by Wes-Li Sonichu. Chris, with the aid of [[Megan Schroeder]], saves the day. ''First appearance of [[Megagi La Skunk]].'' ''Only appearances of [[William Spicer]] and [[Sailor Megtune]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #13
| "Shattered Hearts & Entrapment"
| Slaweel initiates an attack on CWCville, leading to Crystal getting trapped in the mirror! ''First appearance of [[DJ Jamsta]].''
|-
| rowspan="2"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 6, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 6|'''''Sonichu'' #6''']] ''Begun'' 4 Jul 2006 ''Complete'' 21 Feb [[2007]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #12.5
| "One Lucky Dog"
| Chris's dog, Patti, is transported to CWCville and becomes an anthropomorphic dog with magic powers. ''First appearances of [[Patti-Chan]] and [[Allison Amber]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #14
| "Evil is Afoot!"
| Chris and the Chaotic Combo begin their quest for the Sonichu Balls as Reldnahc makes his appearance. ''First appearance of [[Bionic the Hedgehog]].''
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Sonichu Issue 7.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 7|'''''Sonichu'' #7''']] ''Begun'' 5 Mar 2007 ''Complete'' 20 Aug [[2008]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #15
| "Sonichu, Magi-Chan, and Christian in ''Time for a Ball''"
| Chris learns the location of one of the [[Sonichu Balls]] and goes to get it. ''Only appearance of [[Sammy]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #16
| "C.W.C. and Sonichu in ''Time Hogs''"
| Chris and Sonichu retrieve a Sonichu Ball, only for Chris to be lost in the [[Time Void]].
|-
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|"Tune in Everyday to Station KCWC for Everything!"
| DJ Jamsta interviews Blanca and Jiggliami. ''First appearance of [[Jiggliami]] and [[Blanca]].'' ''Only appearance of [[Robert Simmons V]].''
|-
|rowspan="2"|[[File:Sonichu8.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 8|'''''Sonichu'' #8''']] ''Begun'' 20 Aug 2008 ''Complete'' 1 [[January 2009|Jan 2009]] ''Revised'' 10 [[July 2019|Jul 2019]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #17
| "Rage Against the Garbage"
| After sex, Sonichu and Rosechu learn about [[4-cent garbage.com]] and go to confront Jason Kendrick Howell over his work. They get a Sonichu Ball for their trouble. ''First appearance of [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] and [[The Incredible Lioness]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #18
| "Spring Break, 2008"
| Silvana makes her move as Jiggliami warns the others of her plans and they get another Sonichu Ball. ''First appearance of [[Zapina]], [[Simonla Rosechu]], and [[Silvana]].'' ''Last appearance of [[Jiggliami]] and Blanca.'' ''Only appearance of [[Yawning Squirtle]].''
|-
|rowspan="2"| [[File:SchuComic9.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 9|'''''Sonichu'' #9''']] ''Begun'' 1 Dec 2008 ''Complete'' 7 [[December 2009|Dec 2009]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #19
| "Date Ed (Even Though the Idea Sounds Dated)"
| THRILL to the wonder that is Chris's Dating Education classes! ''First appearances of [[Reginald Sneasel]], [[Layla]], and Rita Jackaras.'' ''Only appearance of Ms. Jackaras.''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #20
| "CWC-Defense"
| The PVCC mounts a massive attack on CWCVille! Chris is later pulled out of the Time Void. ''First appearance of the [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] and the [[Power Rangers]].'' ''Only appearance of [[BILLY MAYS]].''
|-
| [[File:Issue 10 Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 10|'''''Sonichu'' #10''']] ''Begun'' 15 Sep 2008 ''Complete'' 25 [[February 2010|Feb 2010]] ''Revised [[2010]] and [[2015]].
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #21
| "Christian Chandler in ''Director Amenities''"
| [[Ego|Chris rains holy hell on all his enemies!]] ''First appearance of [[Clyde Cash]], [[Jack Thaddeus]], [[Lovely Weather]], [[Asperchu]], [[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)]], Metal Asperchu, the [[Asperpedia Four]], and [[Sandy Rosechu]].'' ''Deaths of Reldnahc, Jason Kendrick Howell, Asperchu, Clyde Cash, Jack Thaddeus, Chaotic Combo (Asperchu), Metal Asperchu, the Asperpedia Four, Slaweel the Witch, homosexuality, asexuality, and Simonla.''
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Issue 11 Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 11|'''''Sonichu'' #11''']] ''Begun'' 13 [[August 2009|Aug 2009]] ''Complete'' 30 [[June 2017|Jun 2017]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|"A Sonichu Christmas"
| [[Christmas]] is coming, and Sonichu, Rosechu, and their children faff about the place doing nothing of importance. Cera befriends [[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]], a ''[[Peanuts]]''-type character. Robbie and Sonichu help a homeless woman. [[Simonla Rosechu]] miraculously recovers from her execution. ''This is apparently Episode 22, but it is not numbered as such.''
''First appearance of [[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]], [[Stephanie]].'' ''Resurrection of [[Simonla Rosechu]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #23
| "Simonchu & Bananafunkle"
| Simonchu finds a new Pokémon and Punchy adopts it, causing Layla to leave him.
''First appearance of [[Bananasauros]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #24, Part 1
| "The Clip Show: Catching Up"
| Sonic and Sonichu catch up at the mall. ''Return of [[Sonic]]. First appearance of [[Ferrah]] and [[Dogson]]''
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 12, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 12|'''''Sonichu'' #12''']] ''Begun'' 21 [[May 2017]] ''Complete'' 16 [[October 2017|Oct 2017]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #25
| "To Be or Naught a Tomgirl…"
| [[Robbie Sonee]] comes to terms with xir gender identity.
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #26
| "Prideful"
| The first CWCville pride festival
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #24, Part 2
| Clip Show continued
| Sonic and Sonichu catch up at the mall.
|-
| [[File:Sonichu 12-9 Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 12-9|'''''Sonichu'' #12-9''']] ''Begun'' 25 [[August 2017|Aug 2017]] ''Complete'' 20 [[July 2018|Jul 2018]]
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|(''NB – Chris abandons his traditional habit of dividing his comics into episodes in this and all future issues.'')
| The origin story of [[Night Star]] and how she learned to traverse [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|dimensions]], visiting [[CWCville]] and getting to know Christine.
|-
| [[File:Sonichu - Issue 13, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 13|'''''Sonichu'' #13''']] ''Begun'' 1 [[November 2017|Nov 2017]] ''Complete'' 3 [[August 2018|Aug 2018]]
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"| "The Awakening of a CPU, Also Known As The Idea Guy Corruptions"
| How [[John Yamada]] came to influence Chris. Really an incoherent series of plot threads involving material from existing fictional universes and real-world politics of interest to the [[Idea Guys]].
|-
| [[File:Sonichu - Issue 14, Cover (draft).jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 14|'''''Sonichu'' #14''']] ''Begun'' 26 [[June 2019|Jun 2019]] ''Not yet complete.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"| "The Awakening of a CPU: Book Two"
| Events leading up to the [[Dimensional Merge]].
|-
| [[File:Sonichu book 0 hd cover by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o1j5-pre.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 0 HD|'''''Sonichu'' #0 HD''']] ''Begun'' 16 [[October 2017|Oct 2017]] ''Not yet complete.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|
| The retelling of [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]]; most of the content was [[Things Chris has ripped off|plagiarised]] from ''Rosechu's Story'', a fan comic.
|-
| [[File:Sonichu - Issue 16, Cover (restored).jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 16|'''''Sonichu'' #16''']] ''Begun'' 30 [[May 2017]] ''Seemingly abandoned.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"| "Count Graduon, The Mighty Warrior!"
|Count Graduon's origin story. Chris drew three pages, and then accidentally spilled paint on it. He sold the damaged pages on [[eBay]].
|-
|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 17, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 17|'''''Sonichu'' #17''']] ''Begun'' 1 [[April 2018]] ''Just the cover.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|
|-
|[[File:Sonichu Book 82 cover by nightstarrosechu2891.jpeg|150px]] [[Sonichu 82|'''''Sonichu'' #82''']] ''Begun'' 22 [[April 2023]] ''Just the cover.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|
|
|}

===Special editions===
These special issues were one-offs intended for [[gal pal|specific audiences]], but subsequently obtained by trolls and publicly released.

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! style="background:silver; width=20% | Issue
! style="background:silver; width=20% | Informal Title
! style="background:silver;" | Plot Summary
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| [[File:CWCVictoryForIvy.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 1|''Sonichu Special #1'']]
| CWC Holding Out For a Hero
| style = "text-align:left;"| Chris rescues Ivy from the clutches of "Cly". ''First appearances of [[Ivy]] and [[Clyde Cash]].''
|-
| [[File:IvyWedding.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 2|''Sonichu Special #2'']]
| Wedding Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| The fail-tastic union of Chris and Ivy. ''Only appearances of Spas the Cat, Canino Houndhowl, Lilith, Rachel, [[Ching Chong]], and the unnamed priest.''
|-
| [[File:SchuComicSP3P3.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 3|''Sonichu Special #3'']]
| Giant Penis Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| The even more fail-tastic honeymoon of Chris and Ivy. ''Last appearances of [[Ivy]] and [[Officer Keino]].''
|-
| [[File:SchuComicSP4P3.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 4|''Sonichu Special #4'']]
| Gun Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] "rescues" [[Kacey]] from [[CChanSonichuCWC]] (though it's unclear why Kacey needs to be rescued if she's in a consensual relationship with Liquid), shoots Liquid in the shins, and then makes out with Kacey. ''Only appearances of [[Kacey]], Kacey's mom, [[Matthew Devoria]], and [[Liquid Chris]].''
|-
|[[File:Ring Comic for The Captain (compressed from original).png|150px]]
|[[Sonichu Special 5|''Sonichu Special #5'']]
| [[Guard Dogs]] Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Chris sends the [[Amnyfest Ring]] to [[The Captain]]. ''Only appearance of The Captain''
|-
|[[File:SchuBlockedbyBroniesdraftP3.jpeg|150px]]
|[[Sonichu Special 6|''Sonichu Special #6'']]
| [[Soft Exile]] Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Magi-Chan talks to Dr. Wolf, a creator of the TF2 Analysis show, about Chris being blocked on Twitter by several high-profile creators from the MLP brony fandom, in particular members of [[TF2 Analysis]]. ''First appearance of [[Dr.Wolf]]''
|-
|[[File:ChrisSlimeComicP2.jpg|150px]]
|[[Sonichu Special 7|''Sonichu Special #7'']]
| Slime Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Chris's TRUE and HONEST rendition of [[Ben Saint|Ben Saint's]] promotional comic. ''Only appearance of Phantom Horn and Strawberry Milk''
|}

===Approved fanfictions===
{{Incomplete}}
{{Protip|We advise that you don't make [[Ben Saint|any more comics of your own]] to implement in Chris's canon. It makes you look just as stupid as Chris when he did it alone.}}

On 17 [[December 2019]], Chris uploaded a complete set of the ''Sonichu'' series, including comics 0 through 13 of the main series, but also two fan comics that he has officially endorsed, to [[Chris and business#Storefronts|CWCville Shopping]]. Not being derived from his own [[CWCisms#G|geinus]], they are a step below [[TRUE and HONEST]] ''Sonichu'' canon. Nevertheless he has sanctioned them as mostly true to his vision, and is exploiting these fruits of others' labors [[Chris and money|financially]].

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! style="background:silver; | Image
! style="background:silver; width=20% | Issue
! style="background:silver;" | Plot Summary
|-
| [[File:Rosechu's_Story_comic_book_cover.jpeg|150px]]
| Rosechu's Story
| style = "text-align:left;"| Designed by Tricklechu. Originally a [[Kiwi Farms]] project to redeem as much as possible from Chris's [[Chris and writing|lackluster writing]] by focusing on the side character [[Rosechu (character)|Rosechu]].
|-
| [[File:PrequelCover.jpeg|150px]]
| Chris Chan: A Prequel Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Created by [[Bryanfrogboy]]. Written as a deconstruction of Chris's life, told from Chris's point of view.
|}

==Marketing==
In his [[August 2009]] [[resume|résumé]], Chris stated that his dream was to "get me paper-published with a comic book company like Archie, Marvel, DC or Dark Horse comics". He finally made this happen – sort of – in [[September 2015]], when he discovered {{w|Lulu (company)|Lulu.com}} and put a bound copy of ''Sonichu'' #0 for sale for ten bucks. A print version of Book #1 appeared the following month. Although his Lulu account disappeared from public view after about a week, he continued to offer the books (autographed upon request) on [[Etsy]]. He made routine updates on [[Facebook]].

A recipient of the first issue provided a review:<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Review of Printed Sonichu Comic]]</ref>

{{quoteboxgreen|The cover is pixelated and shitty, Chris really obviously just stretched out whatever resized image he happened to have on his PC at the time, rather than rescan the original or do anything that required any effort.

The spine is completely fucked up, and spills over onto the back of the book, making it totally useless – the bottom half of text can't be viewed from the side. If by some shitty reason you ever wanted to buy multiple future issues to put on your shelf, you'd never be able to tell which one is which. I don't know if this is because he just copied/pasted a book spine he ''assumed'' would work, or if he really underestimated how big the book would be. Probably both. The result is that the cover is one of the worst things in comic history. It honestly is so poorly done and so low quality that if Chris wasn't ''saying'' it was his I would assume this was a troll attempt to make him look bad.

The back cover is significantly less pixelated, but still looks like garbage because it is, of course, drawn all in markers and pen by Chris.

The paper used is matte and looks like the lowest quality/cheapest option he could get it printed on. Someone else mentioned it looks like "draft" quality and that pictures make it better – it seriously is so ugly and the resolution so low, it looks like a test page, and I can't even capture how shitty it is on camera. I've purchased comics from Lulu before, and they weren't nearly this bad, so there must be varying levels of publishing quality (or Lulu themselves has dropped in quality significantly – it's been years) and Chris picked the worst.

So, it's exactly what you expect. Low quality and no effort by Chris other than uploading it. He didn't even check to see if things fit on the ''cover''.}}

As advertised on Etsy:

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #0 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 0}}
{{quotebox|
$10.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, ink
* Made to order
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

This is a Preorder of a Printed version of my first Sonichu Comic Book, #0. It will be in Comic Book size and paper format. The reserve price is an estimate, and it allows room for the print set of Book #1, which follows Book #0.

See the hand drawn beginnings of Sonichu and Rosechu, as well as their classic and romantic coming together and meet, the meeting and battle against [[Naitsirhc]], a few past drawn classic comic strips, and the first of a few [[sub-episodes]] featuring the artist/author, years before finding herself, feeling lost and searching for true love from friendship, intended, but finds constant troubles from the past goons of her arch nemesis, [[Count Graduon]] (with holstered help from the witch, [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel Ryam]]).

(Of which SEGA is still quoted for their Sonic characters, but I have my own personal copyright on Sonichu, Rosechu, and everything else therein. Also, any names, or persons, illustrated in any of the Sonichu Comics, except that of my own, that may seem similar to anyone in real life or wherever else, are purely coincidental or otherwise parodic, and not cannon to their source stories and/or formats). Also, the legal page, and the corner author note on the front will be updated to respectively match my current name and other related items. The contents of this and the other completed and future books have been edited to allow the age range to be for the TV-Y7 and above.

It will take me a week or two to put together the pages into the publishing site's template size, uploading them there, and then it will take up to another four weeks for them to print and ship the books to me, so I can autograph them and send them each off to each person who will have reserved a copy. Therefore, the estimated wait time for the books' full completion will be as late as the end of October of this year.

Also, please do continue to show me your support by buying a medal, an amiibo figure, or donate towards my creation and peace of mind cause. Thank You, and have a Great and Safe Day.

<center><gallery>
File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 1.jpg
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File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 3.jpg
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 4.jpg
</gallery></center>
}}

On 23 September, Chris edited the first paragraph of this description to read:

{{quotebox|
<nowiki>**</nowiki>Please note: This book is now available from its matching listing on lulu.com. ONLY by ordering it through me, will I have the chance to personally autograph your copy of the book for you. Otherwise, you may go to the listing on lulu.com and order a physical copy for yourself there as well. My price here covers shipping from there to me, and then to you. Thank you.}}

In the second week of October, however, his Lulu account went down, and he had to change this again:

{{quotebox|
<nowiki>**</nowiki>Please note: This is the ONLY way to order the book; I have it printed through Lulu.com (the listing there is only viewable to me); anyhow, I stil have the liberty to personally autograph your copy of the book for you. If you do not wish it autographed, please select the Variation Option of "Not Autographed Book". The advantage of having it not autographed, being I can order it from the printer and have it shipped to your address, but it won't be in a comic book sleeve. And each copy sent from me will be shipped in a plastic Comic Book Sleeve with cardboard lining, inside a large envelope. My price here covers shipping from there to me, and then to you. Thank you.}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #1 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 1}}

The description text was more or less identical to that for Sonichu #0.

{{quotebox|
$10.00

'''Item Details'''

In this book, see the genetic cloning of Sonichu, with an accidental dose of cherry cola, resulting in Blake Sonichu. Teaming up in the conclusion to the accident in Book 0, Sonichu and Sonic work together to rescue Rosechu from a Team Rocket, USA Division, crew and robotics scientists, Dr. Ren Skysoar, and his robotic creation.

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File:Issueone.jpg
Sonichu - Episode 4, Page 1, Revision 1.jpg
Sonichu - Episode 4, Page 4, Revision 1.jpg
Sonichu - Episode 4, Page 10.jpg
File:Son1p27.jpg
</gallery></center>
}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #2 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 2}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #3 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 3}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #4 Comic Book, plus rant against online dating===
{{Main|Sonichu 4}}

Chris veered into an off-topic rant on online dating in the description.

{{quotebox|
$15.00

'''Item Details'''

Contains 96 Pages; Recommended for people Ages Seven and Up.

In this SPECIAL Book, archived and retold are the past short adventures of the past Christian Weston Chandler, LONG Before coming out as a Lesbian TransWoman, during the days of his Sweetheart Search, of which were constantly thwarted by the Jerkops and Janekops, sent by the evil Count Graduon and Slaweel Ryam, in Their actions towards making True Love and Being Sweethearts ILLEGAL and LOST in the City of Cwcville, followed by the State of Virginia, Then the United States, and the world! But the Artist and Creator, and Mayor of Cwcville, refuses to stand down and give up in finding the One Woman WHO will be his One True Sweetheart, seeded from the Ground-Up with Good and Honest Face-To-Face Friendship!, along with new short chapter segments to conclude this set of sub-episodes.

Seriously, though: MEETING PEOPLE ONLINE, Communicating for WEEKS to MONTHS, even YEARS(?), Before EVER Meeting Face-to-Face IN PERSON, which is VITAL and REQUIRED for ANY True and Real Friendship AND Relationship... That is Plain NO GOOD! What happened to the days of EVERYONE Actually being Friendly towards one another in the towns and cities; even In This WORLD? WHY do we have to Fear Each Other for the FEAR and Unknown that has stemmed from Wars, Attacks, and Bad People? OMFG!!! Are we ALL so Bleeding Paranoid that we are forced into a Sense of Psuedo-Autism by remaining CONSTANTLY with our faces looking at Screens and Monitors, with LACK of REAL Eye Contact from Initial In Person, Face-to-Face MEETINGS at a Bar, Shopping Mall, College Library, or Coffee Shop?! Not Only do I, PERSONALLY, Suck at Meeting and Communicating with People ONLINE, ESPECIALLY to Establish Honest and Real and True Relationships in the Trials and Errors that are Not Only More Efficient and Better WITHOUT Hiding Behind Screens and Monitors,... *sigh* BUT I remain Constantly LONELY and Freaking SHY from Lack of Women ACTUALLY offering me their Time of Day Or Interest, Face-To-Face. But I digress.

(Of which SEGA is still quoted for their Sonic characters, and Nintendo for Pikachu). But I have my own personal copyright on Sonichu, Rosechu, and everything else therein. Also, any names, or persons, illustrated in any of the Sonichu Comics, except that of my own, that may seem similar to anyone in real life or wherever else, are purely coincidental or otherwise parodic, and not cannon to their source stories and/or formats). Also, the legal page, and the corner author note on the front will be updated to respectively match my current name and other related items. The contents of this and the other completed and future books have been edited to allow the age range to be for the TV-Y7 and above.

Also, please do continue to show me your support by buying a medal, a custom figure, or donate towards my creation and peace of mind cause. Thank You, and have a Great and Safe Day.

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===OfficialCWCmart listings===
Later on, on 19 [[January 2024]], [[Praetor]] also started selling the first 4 issues of Sonichu on [[OfficialCWCmart]] for $30 an issue, a significant markup from his ealrier offerings. There was also a combo deal containing all four books for a slightly more digestable $90.
{{collapsible|vol 0 description|The original first book that introduces Sonichu, Rosechu and the city of Cwcville. 48 Pages.

Personally autographed and signed.

-Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime}}

{{collapsible|vol 1 description|Sonichu encounters a clone that was made of his DNA from his encounter with Naitsirhc. 50 Pages.

Personally autographed and signed.

-Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime}}

{{collapsible|vol 2 description|Christian Chandler of Cwcville, an old friend, and her ex-boyfriend, end up finding out they're half-Sonichu. 48 Pages.

Personally autographed and signed.

-Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime}}

{{collapsible|vol 3 description|The fateful meeting and getting together of the fab five, out of the many Special Sonichus and Rosechus, who make up the Chaotic Combo. 48 Pages.

Personally autographed and signed.

-Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime}}

{{collapsible|COMBO DEAL description|A True and Honest Deal: First 4 Sonichu comics, personally autographed by Christine Weston Chandler.

PACK CONTAINS: 
- Sonichu Vol. 0, 48pg 
- Sonichu Vol. 1, 50pg 
- Sonichu Vol. 2, 48pg 
- Sonichu Vol. 3, 48pg}}

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==Future plotlines==
Over the years Chris has dropped a few hints about specific plotlines. At one point he stated, ''"[[Metal Sonichu|METAL SONICHU]] is NOT a secondary character; HE will be making his return as a MAJOR VILLIAN after Book 11 Possessed by the soul of Count Graduon."''<ref>[[CWC Blog#12 January 2010]]</ref> He later elaborated, ''"Count Graduon will be the Major Villain beyond ''[''Sonichu'' #10]'', possessing the [[Metal Sonichu]] that crashed on [[the moon]] back in [[Sonichu 1|Book 1]].''<ref>[[Wallflower E-mails]]</ref> The issue may also move to [[RuleCWC]]: Chris has said that ''"[[Darkbind]] and [[Zelina]] will be fighting [[Clawdorf]] with great sword and bow/arrow battles."''<ref>[[Mailbag 52]]</ref>

There was also to be less [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Great Director intrusion]]: ''"After [[Sonichu 10|Book 10]], I will be making LESS personal appearances in the pages, as having done so was a big mistake, because I had got carried away with the [[Love quest|trials and tribulations]] in my life, [[Man in the Pickle Suit|real]] and [[BlueSpike|online]], that it completely messed me up."''<ref>[[Mailbag 53]]</ref>

Since then, Count Graduon and Metal Sonichu have only reappeared once in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], RuleCWC has not been seen since [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], and, as all of us have probably predicted, Chris broke his promise to cut down on his appearances in the comic with [[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]].

==References==
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==External links==
{{CWCipedia|chris=Sonichu Comic Collection|linkname=the Sonichu Comic Collection}}
* [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu_Comic_Collection CWCipedia comic archive (Episode #20 updates included)]
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu TV Tropes: ''Sonichu'']
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wrPws-jw9Y Video stating that ''Sonichu'' is too bad to be featured on Atop the Fourth Wall, which reviews bad comics.]
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20101226234319/https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ Archive of the Sonichu comics via Chris's old website. Comics are near the bottom of the page.]

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Chris and negotiation

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FurryChristorian789: /* Chris's Attempted Negotiations */

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[[File:Executiveprotestcard.jpg|thumb|300px|Chris and his Mary Sue ponysona, [[Night Star]], "negotiating" with the perpetually smiling executives of Hasbro over his [[My Little Pony Protests|desire for ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' to continue]] as depicted in one of his [[TSSSF]] cards.]]

While dealing with Chris, [[trolls]] often experience his unique form of '''negotiation'''. Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a [[Barbara Chandler|lifetime of coddling]] and [[autism|other factors beyond his control]], Chris has no grasp of how to compromise and often fails to understand what sort of bargaining position he's in.

Often, [[trolls]] blackmailing Chris will find him making demands of them as if he were the one with leverage. Conversely, some have experienced the oddity of having Chris run away from a situation where he was purposely given the upper hand. When it comes to dealing with Chris directly, one can only expect that he will always take the path of least resistance, even if it doesn't benefit him.

==Concept of compromise==
Negotiation is based on compromise. Both parties must work together and make concessions to each other to find the best possible solution to their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this, and arguably ''cannot'' understand this, given his severely stunted ability to understand that other people have thoughts and feelings that differ from his own. Being completely ego-centric, Chris believes that, in any exchange, both parties must share the same viewpoint: his. Chris can't stand any form of prolonged confrontation and quickly tires if his demands aren't met exactly as he has made them.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate either by making ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up (or do anything at all for that matter). After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PlayStation 3]].

Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he doxed [[Mr. Smith]].

==Chris's Attempted Negotiations==
===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===
{{quote|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: -I will never hang notes on the wall again. -I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan. -I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg|thumb|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of wrongdoings to make up for, according to Chris]]
One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

[[2009|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't previously blocked him).

To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him, similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably did not cut ice likewise.

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a [[CWC Update 26 January 2009|video]] where he pretended to come back from Redmond when he never left the house. Chris demanded that the CEO of an international company come to HIS house and meet with him. When Chris was pressed as to why the meeting had to be at his house, Chris said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, Chris made various excuses and cited his very brief employment at [[Wendy's]]. He also insulted Miyamoto, asking him "Are you the "Mario" who Plays Fair, or the "Bowser/Koopa" who Cheats and Lies?" This sort of "pass the buck" attitude is very common when dealing with Chris. Nothing negative can ever be his fault.

===[[Audiobooks]]===
[[Image:VivianLetsTalkBusiness.PNG|thumb|Never considered softly manipulating your target of death threats into giving you money? Only a ''[[Chris_and_English#Spelling|geinus]]'' like Chris would think of such a negotiation tactic.]]
In [[2009]], Chris came into contact with [[Vivian Gee]], a [[white knight]] who eventually turned into a troll. Vivian was very helpful to Chris at first, but Chris refused to hear any of her input. As a result, their relationship soured, and Vivian started a popular ''Sonichu'' parody audiobook that Chris despised. [[4 September 2009|Chris ranted and raved]], demanding that the audiobooks be removed. They were not. One month later, Chris quickly changed his tune. After taking out a [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] on the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|''name'' "Sonichu"]], Chris believed he now had magical copyright powers and demanded that Vivian give him 25% of all the profits she'd made from the audiobooks (which was $0). Overnight, something that he had made death threats over became not only welcome but highly sought after.

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
When Jack stole Chris's [[PSN]] accounts, Chris asked him "Why don't you come down to my house yourself in person, unless you are the cowardly weakling?" Jack had to remind him that he (Jack) held all the cards, and Chris was in no position to make demands.

===[[THAT IS MY HOUSE]]===
After his parents ordered that he remove all copies of his [[Tour of Chris's House|video tour of]] [[14 Branchland Court]] from the Internet, Chris made another video in which he made his demand that all the copies of the tour which had been uploaded by trolls be taken down. Rather than calmly and politely explaining that the videos posed a threat to the safety of his family (which would likely have gotten at least ''some'' of the trolls to remove their copies), Chris loudly shrieks like a child and even turns his demands from being idiotic to being vaguely insulting by admitting it was his fault for uploading the videos, then immediately threatening the trolls with detectives and police if they didn't immediately do as he asked. Humorously, [[Bob]] does a better job at mentioning how serious the situation is, but because Chris didn't include his speech in the final video, the damage the trolls would cause in result was inevitable.

===[[Sweetheart]] [[saga]]s===
Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "sweethearts" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or bus fare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the D.C. area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put more effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

During the Julie saga, Chris made several deals with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[The Miscreants]], all of which he reneged on:

*In the first deal, Chris agreed to do a video where he came out of the closet to save Julie's life. In the [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 1|first take]], he called himself a "[[gaybian]]", which was done so that he could somehow say he was gay without actually calling himself gay. He did a [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009#Take 2|second take]] where he clearly stated that he was being forced to say he was gay. When he finally did call himself a homosexual, he mumbled it and stated he was "guhhhhh".

*The second deal was that Chris would clean his room to save Julie's life and that he would do a video to prove it was clean. To avoid having to clean his room, he merely pushed some of his stuff aside and filmed his floor for 30 seconds before he did his [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|Captain's Log]].

*The final deal resulted in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call. [[BlueSpike]], as both Julie and her kid brother Max, had gained access to Chris's [[PSN]] account. In the guise of Max, he offered Chris an ultimatum: The [[PSN]] and Yahoo! accounts or Julie. In a conversation before the call, Chris told Max that he chose Julie, believing that, like in the movies and TV, he would get both back for "making the right choice". Right when "Max" put "Julie" on, Chris immediately asked "her" to get his PSN and Yahoo! back. Failing that, he tried to guilt Max into giving it back to him. In the main call, Max gives Chris one last chance to change his choice. He sticks with Julie, despite the hold that his PSN account has over him. When Max threatened to sell his account on eBay, he revealed that he "made the right choice" and that he deserves his PSN.

===Chris, [[CWCipedia]] captain===
When he was given his wiki for free, he demanded complete executive control from day one. In Chris's mind, this meant that every demand he made would be fulfilled by the staff and that anything done without his permission would be removed immediately. He insisted on a gaudy background, and [[CWCipedia#Traitorous mutiny|threatened to stop working]] whenever the [[Cogsdev|webmaster]] displeased him. Later, when Jack Thaddeus graciously paid for the CWCipedia's webspace with ads featuring homoerotic images, Chris went on a tirade and immediately demanded that they be taken down, yet refused to even consider paying for his website. When removal failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller, as if he had some say in how large advertisements were. Chris had no concept of how advertising worked but merely assumed that he had the final say in everything.

Later, during the "popularity contest" between ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and ''[[Asperchu]]'', he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]] to remove ''Asperchu'' ads from the front page of the CWCipedia. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to ''Sonichu''. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his apologies. Chris's list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game from his [[Xbox|Xbox 360]], blew up said Xbox, and freed a group of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse. After finally fulfilling most of Alec's requests in a substandard and slapdash manner, Chris killed him, his webmaster and two other comic artists in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] as some sort of childish form of revenge.

===Simonla===
[[Evan]] created Simonchu as a joke, giving permission to use him in the comic, but then Chris decided to instead make his own female version named [[Simonla Rosechu]]. This (along with [[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails|Chris openly lying that he was given permission to alter the character]]) roused Evan's ire considerably and started a long fight for the future of a recolor OC. Evan demanded that Chris remove Simonla from the comic and Chris, naturally, was tenacious in his attempts to prevent Simonla from meeting her untimely demise. At first, Chris simply ignored Evan's orders. Then ([[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly|after plans to include Simonchu as Simonla's brother didn't appease Evan]]) Chris later contrived a new excuse to disregard the wishes of a perceived foe and keep what rightfully wasn't his: [[Chris and reality|that Simonla was happily living in CWCville with a boyfriend and it would be a cruel violation of her rights to kill her for good]].

Evan gave further demands but Chris continued to dig in his heels, even [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|nonchalantly explaining his egocentric delusions to]] [[Alec Benson Leary]] (who was dealing with Chris's domineering attitude toward the [[CWCipedia]] as was) in an attempt to justify sparing a stolen OC. Only when the CWCipedia was shut down by force did Chris ''finally'' budge and even then, his compliance amounted to no more than a toilet explosion as her cause of death. And to say nothing of the "revenge" Chris graphically dished out to a fictionalized portrayal of Evan afterwards.

===[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]===
[[Image:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|thumb|Refusing to help Chris terrorize a retail setting [[Unban contracts|proves you are a most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person]]]]
Less than two years after getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris wouldn't take no for an answer, so he decided to try and persuade Michael Snyder to let him resume patronage. When an apology attempt was met with point-blank rejection (as well as [[Chris and race|an anti-Semitic insult]] and a call to the police), Chris demanded his fanbase harass Mike in retribution on his behalf. Unfortunately for Chris, his decision to record the altercation as "evidence", in case he needed to prove ''he'' was faced with aggression, led to his "fans" praising Mike for sticking to his guns against Chris.

===PlayStation Network===
Often, trolls will gain access to Chris's PSN, and make various demands. The most common of these demands is that he sell or throw out some of his beloved toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a glance at his PSN account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'', ''[[God of War]] 3'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'', which leaves most of his [[List of Chris's games|vast collection of games]] untouched. Even though he doesn't use the majority of the toys and games he owns, he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something that would improve his life.

Between late [[August 2010]] and early [[September 2010]], Chris was met with the opportunity (not really) of gaining $9,001 in exchange for the [[The MovingForward videos|destruction of]] [[ItIsFinished.MOV|his PS3]]. Needless to say, [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|it didn't go well]]. The bounty was only for trolls and was, in turn, fake. However, Chris tried to haggle (albeit ''very'' poorly) with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] to get something that never existed. The ultimate result of this was Chris [[Charlottesville Fashion Square#Chris captured on video|actually waiting for his money at the Charlottesville Fashion Square]] after being tricked into going there. After realizing he had been tricked, he ended by telling them to "go point at your own damn snouts and Oink like [[South Park|Eric Cartman]], and then [[Rape]] yourselves with your own Damn [[Sex toys|Darth Maul Dual Light Saber]]."

===[[3DS Flipnote|Flipnote Studio on 3DS]]===
In one of Chris's many [[Flipnote Studio]] creations, he requests that Nintendo port the software to their 3DS platform. In typical Chris fashion, his animation consists of him [[Chris and anger|yelling loudly]] and demanding that Nintendo bring the software to the 3DS. Chris had sped his voice up to the point where it's hard to decipher what he's saying, but he assumes that being loud will get you what you want. Throughout the entire animation, his tone of voice and choice of words suggest that [[Chris and his Ego|he's under the impression that he's some sort of spokesperson]] for all Flipnote users. Nintendo eventually released ''Flipnote Studio 3D'' in [[February 2015]].

===[[Calling Out]]===
Returning to [[YouTube]] after an 8-month hiatus, Chris decided to confront two of his trolls, [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]], over what they've done and demanded that Tito apologize to Sony over the hackings and to [[The Wallflower]] for "breaking them up", then give him [[Chris and money|$1000]], and telling Thorg to apologize for putting up pictures years ago and to put up a non-slanderous billboard saying that Chris is [[STRAIGHT]]. He also wants them to remove all contributions to the [[CWCki]]. If these weren't done, he'd reveal their pictures and possible other dox and have the trolls troll them.

Unlike the incident involving Clyde Cash resulting in [[Twin Falling Towers|a very poorly made decision]], Chris honestly believes he has the upper hand and can finally pay back against some of his trolls. However, what he's doing isn't a negotiation, but an [[Chris and the Law|extortion]], expecting these goals to be completed or they were to suffer the consequences with Chris doing nothing on his part.

===[[eBay]] and [[Craigslist]] sales===
Chris's idea of salesmanship is interesting, to say the least. He attempts to sell mostly old, broken or worthless items and tends to demand many times the item's actual value in exchange, often non-negotiable. An early example was his attempt to sell an ancient television on Craigslist, demanding ''$250'' for a piece of junk he'd be lucky to sell for a tenth of that sum.

Since then, he has become a much more prolific e-merchant, and has whittled away [[2014]] charging thousands of dollars for his "[[art]]" on eBay, showing that he is still [[Chris and reality|delusional]] enough to [[Chris and his Ego|vastly overestimate his e-fame and artistic talent]]. Similarly, he tried to sell his late father's replica of a Stradivarius violin for almost ''$100,000'', as if he believed that a violin with a manufactured label saying it was made in the 1950s on its interior could be the real thing. Most recently, he has attempted to sell his and his mother's ancient, barely-functioning cars. Typical of Chris, he is demanding thousands of dollars for cars which are worth maybe a few hundred (as scrap). He also characteristically demands that the deal in question is of a "no-haggle" nature even when setting unrealistic asking prices on sites where haggling is often the norm.

Needless to say, most of Chris's merchandise either go unsold, or he is forced to accept a more realistic price for it. We can only assume the rest is bought by his [[Trolls|most avid fans]] who [[Medallions#Obtaining medallions|glory in the opportunity to possess samples of his fine work]].

However, Chris may not just ask for ridiculous prices in exchange for his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitty]] [[Medallions#Mark 2|possessions]] because he's taking his prospective buyers for [[Naïve|fools]], but because [[Chris and money|he doesn't know the first thing about value]]. Consider his lavish spending sprees that transcend his ability to fund them; his parents taught him nothing about the value of money, which he thinks can be pissed away nonchalantly. He also struggles with measurement, as evidenced by his estimation of a 12-pack of canned lemonade weighing 50 pounds, a symptom of [[autism]], it's possible that his incompetence in this regard also extends to an estimation of value.

The reality, however, could also be something much more sinister. The high prices he sets for his goods may not be due to ignorance of value, but a symptom of his abject materialism and hoarding, inherited from [[Barb]]. It's possible that Chris is so attached to and obsessed with his material possessions that he seriously finds his ludicrous prices an acceptable consolation for him to have to give up part of his precious hoard.

===[[Unban contracts]]===
In [[October 2016]], Chris delivered contracts to at least two stores (Gamestop and Best Buy) from which he was banned. In these contracts (which were likely not signed), he puts in a clause stating the stores in question can't call the [[JERKOPS|police]] against him (making the contract null and void, since contracts can't protect against prosecution.) He also wants the managers to "forgive and forget," and claims that not signing proves they are "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person."

===[[Sonic World]]===
If, for whatever reason, you needed further proof that Chris hasn't learned from previous failures at negotiation, the trouble he got into with the Sonic World Discord server in late 2020 is a perfect example.

Chris took Cirrusfire's Sonichu character mod and reposted it with considerable alterations (i.e. replacing the soundbites and character bio with what he made) and absolutely zero permission from the modder whatsoever. After he was rightfully kicked from the Discord server for this unwanted misuse of someone else's hard work (as well as [[December_2020_social_media_posts#Chris_.22setting_the_record_straight.22|an egocentric tirade on his Twitter]] with more expression of his delusions), he went to have a word with Cirrusfire himself.

Instead of acknowledging he had done something wrong and offering to work things out ([[Chris and remorse|which no one would expect from Chris by this point anyway]]), he opted to berate Cirrusfire. Not only was he under the impression that him crediting the modder and Sonic World being a non-profit fan project would justify meddling with data unauthorized, but he also proceeded to claim ''[[Chris and his ego|he]]'' was hurt by his so-called act of "generosity" to help Cirrusfire be "made famous" and outright accuse him (along with others in the server) of being [[Chris and hypocrisy|"ungrateful and selfish"]].

Sure enough, [[List_of_places_that_have_banned_Chris#Sonic_World_DX|Chris was eventually banned from the server]], no closer to getting what he wanted than every previous conflict he failed to amicably resolve by his own fault.

===[[Jail Saga|In court]]===

When Chris was arrested in [[August 2021]], he found himself before the courts to be arraigned for the charges. After being reminded that said appearance was to determine if he would be given bond or not (based on his likeliness to appear on trial and if he, the defendant, constituted a danger to himself and others,) Chris made demands that [[Chris and reality|he be let home]] to collect [[Toys|his things]], but not before risking contempt of court by doing things such as stomping his feet in anger and interrupting the judge several times with inane outbursts such as: "I'm famous on the internet!"

Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>

==Chris's tactics==
===Ignoring reality===
When Chris is faced with a task requiring any effort on his part (no matter how minimal) or involves something that does not benefit him, he completely ignores it. Chris automatically disregards anything that will not benefit him immediately, or almost immediately. The hardest part of negotiating with Chris is that, if you make a demand that he does not agree to, he shuts down. Like a spoiled infant, Chris will not even deal with something that isn't self-serving and easy.

On the other hand, when you have something Chris wants, Chris will not give up until he has acquired it - on his terms. When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway or claim that the rules are discriminatory and unfair. Chris will pursue his goal thoughtlessly and simple-mindedly - expending great resources in the process - often ignoring even the idea that he might not get what he wants. In the process, he frequently acts as if he has some sort of leverage even in situations where this is manifestly not the case — he continually made demands of the CWCipedia's administrators, for instance, even though they had full control over the website and he had none.

Also (whether you think it's due to being [[naïve]] about how real-world humans work or a failed attempt at deliberate manipulation), Chris seems to assume that if it comes straight from his mouth in a situation where he expects complete benefits, what he says would (and should) be immediately accepted by the other party, willfully ignoring literally ''anything'' to signify he is neither True nor Honest. His many [[Chris and remorse|"apologies"]], for one thing, which he seems to think will make anyone denying him what he wants change their mind and let him live a consequence-free lifestyle (which of course is largely because of Chris actively defying established rules and norms for socially acceptable behaviour in the first place).

===Altering reality===
In some instances (the rare ones that he does what he was instructed to), anything said or done he feels slandered his good name he will simply state are lies and instruct everyone to ignore them, then will [[Mailbag 2|close his mind]] on the subject. This is retarded for two reasons. By telling his "fans" to ignore the lies, he is alerting "fans" that are a little behind on what's happening with Chris of their existence, making more people see them than would have if he didn't acknowledge them. He is also showing he is aware of their existence, and still insisting they are lies.

As mentioned above, Chris will also expect any lie he makes in a conflict where he is hopeful to get something he wants to be taken at face value, no matter what. To name one specific case, whilst on the verge of facing legal action if he didn't stop using Simonla in his comic, Chris claimed that he could've easily come up with the character entirely on his own and later edited Simonla's CWCipedia entry with a false statement that no OC theft ever occurred. Predictably enough, no one bought this lie.

===Delays===

[[File:PornRequest.png|thumb|You can't go wrong with MLP porn over paying your debt!]]

When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (most noticeably deadlines), he will explain that he is "working on it". To Chris, saying this is an acceptable substitute for actual work, whether or not he is indeed "working on it". If in his own good time, Chris feels inclined to fulfill the deal, he'll submit whenever he wants to, regardless of the original agreement, well after the deadline. If the agreement was that he would receive something for the "work" done, he will demand it unceasingly, despite not holding up his end of the deal in any way, shape, or form.

Even if Chris somehow agrees to a set of terms, he will try to get around them. If he agrees to give something up for someone, he will go behind that person's back to get it back so that he could have both. If he agrees to draw a comic, he will most likely do something easier, like making a video or write a blog entry, figuring that that counts as work. If he agrees to willingly slander himself (like calling himself gay, for instance), he'll either mumble it so that it's incomprehensible, or he'll hide his face.

==References==
<references />

{{Chris and}}

Chris and kindness

2024-04-12T20:57:16Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Genuine acts of kindness */

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{{quote|I Knew they were trolls, but they had Good Intentions, and they were genuinely Kind Individuals. I am not listening to your bull shit.| Chris showing that he prefers kindness over reason.<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts#Teen Troon Squad]]</ref>}}
{{quote|For I am ze kind and compassionate Chrrristine Chandler! | Chris, proclaiming his kindness and [[A New, Fun Trick|his ability to roll his R's]]}}
[[File:Cwcconvnetioncard.jpeg|thumb|200px|"Show me kindness and fun: I smile for you all!"]]

Despite all of his moments of [[Chris and anger|rage]], [[Death threats|death threats]], [[lies]], and... [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|yuck]], Chris does have a soft side, and he is not afraid to show it. As of recently, he will more often than not be motivated to act '''kind''' towards other people, even towards complete strangers. Due to his [[autism]] and upbringing making it difficult to empathize with others, these attempts are often awkward and occasionally cross the line to disrespect.

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable, as he cannot distinguish when it is most appropriate to accept an offer vs politely declining it.

==Origins of his kindness==

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''[[Care Bears]]''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

This might also explain why Chris [[Chris and hypocrisy|preaches the importance of virtues he has demonstrably failed to live up to]] for years (and still does), sees the world with simplistic black and white morality, [[Jackie E-mails 23|resists anyone telling him hard truths because they don't sound nice and sympathetic enough]], [[Chris and manipulation|easily latches onto anything seemingly beneficial to him without a second thought]] and so forth. [[Autism#Understanding_others'_intentions|His tendencies toward binary perception]] and [[Chris and manipulation|poor perception of reality]] presumably didn't help one bit either.

== Chris and his morality ==

[[File:Chris' Big Dilema.jpg|thumb|Chris conflicting with his morality and his desires at the same time|200px]]

{{Protip|Please be aware that ''the Chris described below'' evolved into [[Affair with Mother|a literal motherfucker]] in [[June 2021|early June, 2021]] and slept with his mother "every three days" until Chris was finally ordered out of [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]'s house on [[July 2021|the 30th of July]] by Social Services. Revising this page will be a difficult task. Altering this older portrait of our "selfish but harmless idiot" would make it harder to illustrate the changes in him and his ability to justify all of his own actions, [[Chris and sex#Incest|however depraved]].}}

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. To a certain extent, he's right, but for all of the wrong reasons.

Despite what one may think about Chris, the reality is that he is relatively harmless and is somewhat capable of distinguishing right and wrong. But that is only scratching the surface, as Chris's selfishness and [[Naïve|naivete]] often turn out to be the main culprits behind him doing immoral actions, rather than true malevolence.

One infamous example of this behavior is when he foolishly drew and uploaded [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] onto Encyclopedia Dramatica as a means to combat all of the pictures of [[duck]]s and [[pickle]]s he found on the site, as well as to [[Homos#Fear of being a homo|prove his straightness]], not thinking about how [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] might respond to being depicted in such an undignified manner in a shoddily drawn piece of porn. Megan, who was looking for just about any reason to stop talking to Chris,<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post]]</ref> was understandably revolted. However, what cements the fact that his naivete was partly responsible is how Chris tried to explain to Megan what happened in the picture itself, thinking that she was inexperienced with [[Chris and sex|sex]], and didn't understand what was going on, rather than the obvious fact that she was depicted in such a demeaning situation, and that Chris obviously wants to pound her.

An outsider's account has confirmed this, specifically that of [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A|Mimms and Lucas]]. Mimms stated that Chris didn't seem aware he had committed wrongdoings to justify getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] (but he certainly knew he was no longer welcome there)<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris's_ban_from_the_store]]</ref>. Though Chris didn't seem to recall anything beyond a so-called [[Jackie_E-mails#Chris_hates_authority|"Wii incident"]] or "[[100_2261.MOV|shout(ing) a loud outburst twice]]", he still saw fit to try and [[Chris and remorse|apologize]] to [[Michael Snyder]] (in a predictably failed bid to have his ban repealed).

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

== Empathy ==

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

== Motivations for doing good ==

===[[Love Quest]] and [[gal pals]]===

[[File:Doopie White Knights Chris.jpg|thumb|200px]]

While socializing with his alleged pals, Chris always takes the time to act as kind as possible to them, to the point where it becomes downright disturbing. Unsurprisingly, Chris has used Social Media as a means of continuing his [[Love Quest]] and finding the [[sweetheart]] he has desired for over a decade. Because of that, most of the people [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|Chris attempts to befriend are girls]], with and [[Boyfriend-Free Girl|without boyfriends]].

In terms of friendships on social media, whenever he feels he's up the creek without a paddle, Chris will almost always doubt that he is in any way responsible for anybody turning against him because, in his eyes, he is too kind for anyone to simply block him on Twitter or to be hated by the masses, and instead [[Chris and remorse|shifts the blame on the trolls]]. This coupled with the fact that Chris refuses to see the worst out of his friends unless he gets the hint that they denied access to their [[china]] makes it sound even more disturbing.

===Defending others===
As mentioned above with the Doopie saga, Chris has a tendency to believe he is doing good when in reality, he isn't. A common motivation for doing what he believes to be good is so that he can 'defend' someone he thinks is close to him; Chris has demonstrated this numerous times with Troll-created [[Sweethearts]], such as attempting to 'defend' [[Julie]] from [[Clyde Cash]] in voice chat sessions, then [[Ohio Trip|driving all the way to Cleveland]] in his belief that she would be there. Chris has also attempted to shift the focus of [[Weening]] against Doopie to himself in his [[HarassCWCdirectly|Twitter campaign]], when in reality the situation, far less serious than he thought it was, could have been resolved had Chris simply quieted down.

===Avoiding trouble===

In other instances, Chris will only act kindly to people to avoid getting into trouble. Whenever he tries to apologize to anyone, it's usually for reasons such as getting his [[PSN]] account back, or in an attempt to get back into places he was banned from.

===Personal benefit===

In general, the reason for Chris's acting kindly towards others is his thinking that doing so is the best way to manipulate them into doing whatever he wants them to. This is possibly due to his misunderstanding of simple etiquette and manners.

== How Chris demonstrates kindness ==

{| class="wikitable"
|[[Chris and remorse|Apologizing]]
|As mentioned above, Chris has a very limited understanding of empathy. On the rare occasions in which Chris admits his misdeeds and apologizes for them, [[Chris and negotiation|ulterior motives]] are usually, if not always, present. This is in part to [[Borb|his upbringing]] and otherwise due to other things such as [[autism]], all of which limit his ability to understand empathy. Curiously, Chris seems to lack the tendency to over-apologize for things, a trait known to be found in people on the spectrum, and normally will remain obstinate and particularly stubborn in his opinions unless forced to admit he was wrong, or if apologizing for some self-serving purpose.
|-
|Using pet names
|To refer to a gal-pal in a "kind" nonsexual manner, Chris will often refer to them as either [[Darling|"darling" or "dear"]].<ref>[[LadyOfTheCosmo]]</ref> However, since Chris obviously doesn't understand how creepy it is to refer to a girl he's just met on the internet as a "darling", most girls who talk to Chris online will be set off by Chris's misuse of the word.
|-
|Gift-giving
|Chris has shown several times his belief that kindness can be equated to simply furnishing others with luxuries such as video games, movies, comic books and other such gifts, not realising that charity alone is not the only virtue required to be considered kind. Perhaps the most noticeable instance of this was during his friendship with [[Megan]], in which he carried out a protracted program of gift-giving practically right up to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the moment it all came crashing down.]] The [[Idea Guys]] [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] this aspect of Chris's beliefs on kindness to have him be extorted into providing them with vast sums of money, alongside brand new video games and consoles, as revealed by invoices provided by Chris to the [[Guard Dogs]] during the early stages of [[Guard Dogs#Extortion|Operation Kingsnake]].
|-
|}

== Genuine acts of kindness ==
During [[Liquid Chris]] saga, Chris wanted to get Liquid arrested, and therefore placing him in prison. However, after talking with [[Kacey]], he decided that he "would hate to see you in jail, out of respect, and of care, because she would be heartbroken."<ref>[[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!]]</ref> It's worth mentioning that only a few seconds later, he threatens to get him tried in court, so this should be taken with a grain of salt.

Chris once participated in raising funds for [[Alex's Lemonade Stand]], a charity program that works to raise awareness of childhood cancer. Although he did it in memory of his [[Bob Chandler|deceased father]], who actually passed away as a result of heart disease rather than cancer, it was still considered a positive contribution Chris made to society.

He also donated to Red Cross in the wake of Hurricane Harvey in September 2017.

On a relatively minor note, [[Lucas]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] recalled Chris brought in his [[Nintendo|Wii]] for a tournament on the release of ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q%26A#Tabletop games]]</ref>. Bear in mind this was the ''one'' positive moment involving Chris that Lucas recollected and [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] stated he felt Chris lacked any redeeming quality to speak of.

== See also ==

* [[Chris and remorse]]

== References ==
<references/>

{{Chris and}}

Affair with Mother

2024-04-10T14:57:31Z

FurryChristorian789: Adding a few citations.

:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|Chris had a felony charge of incest, not rape. This page discusses whether the affair was consensual or not, but ultimately can not confirm or deny it. No matter what you believe, please ''avoid calling Chris a rapist on this wiki'' as he has not been officially charged or confirmed to have raped Barb. Also of note is that ''Barb has not been confirmed to have dementia'', despite heavy speculation. Additionally, Chris has a habit of changing up stories of past events from time to time, so take his countless recollections with a grain of salt.}}
{{Protip|Like "[[For Julie's Eyes Only|JULAAAAYYY]]" and "[[Ian Brandon Anderson]]" before it, "BARBUSSY" has quickly become an overused, [[Weening|weenish]] meme. Consider retaining your dignity by not spamming it at Chris.}}

{{quote|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.<ref name=dream>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence in]] earlier in the month, may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date, Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].

Chris was kept in jail or in a mental hospital until 27 [[March 2023]], at which point he was released. His incest charge was outright dropped in [[August 2023]], and he did not have to register as a sex offender. He has [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|commented on the charge against him]] numerous times since his arrest and denied that he and his mother had sex, despite previous admission to the contrary. Due to the [[Ween|weens]] abusing the donation system on his livestreams to spam such messages, he had come up with a lot of excuses, from claiming that [[October 2023 livestreams#The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime| [he has] been forgiven and cleansed of any and all sins of [his], period"]], to stating that [[List of Chris's lies|it happened in another timeline]].

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]], [[Teen Troon Squad chats]]}}

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Note the talk of "soul bonding" in the right-hand corner.]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood mixed with the emotionally abusive control tactics she implemented against both him and Bob. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. In a [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|2010 voice chat]] between various [[PVCC]] forum members, [[Kim Wilson]] talked about a discussion where Chris revealed he was spooning his mother on a regular basis. She also revealed that Chris told her that he'd once had a [[Dreams|wet dream]] about Barb as an Egyptian belly dancer. When asked by Emily if he'd repopulate the planet if he and his mother were the only two people left in existence, Chris went silent and then denied any desire to have sex with his mother.

[[File:CWCTablet25Jul2021.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he bragged about incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating, "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

On 5 [[July 2021]], [[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Null)#Chris's_"girlfriend"|Chris revealed that he was having sex with]] [[Barbara_Chandler#Early_life|an older woman with a background in accounting, and whom he had known for a long time]] to [[Null]] in confidence. Null, having no idea [[Barbara_Chandler|who Chris was talking about]], praised Chris for [[Honest_Content|managing to keep something secret for once]] and encouraged Chris to keep their relationship secret to protect her identity.

On 25 [[July 2021]], Chris watched a [[WatchMojo]] video "Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever".<ref>[[Fiona DMs#Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever]]</ref> [[July 2021 social media posts#Beauty artwork|Chris released a piece of artwork on his Twitter feed]] on 28 [[July 2021]], showing "soul-bonding" between an elderly Libra woman (which Barb is) and a younger woman that suspiciously looks like [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris's fictionalized counterpart]], clandestinely hinting at the horrifying affair that was just days from being revealed (the only major inconsistency is that Chris is a Pisces and appears elsewhere in the picture with the correct sign).

Chris had stated [[Lonely feelings|in a conversation]] he had with [[Watchmen]] members that he had feelings of loneliness and wanted to get some action with a real, physical woman. Unfortunately for everyone, Chris's desires would lead him to a very dark place...

== The affair ==

On 27 June 2021, Chris began to engage in incest with his mother.<ref name=call/><ref name=wct>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move."<ref name=call/>

When pressed for details on the dirty deed, Chris has shown an unsurprising lack of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for his actions, stating that his actions were ordained by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus Himself]]. If anything, he was more upset that [[Bella]], [[Null]], [[Dillin]], and other people ratted him out [[Honest Content|after he provided a confession to a felony]].<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

[[File:i_am_vomit.png|thumb|right|250px|The average reaction to what happened...]]

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full-body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris also claimed in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her. It apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. There is no information about whether she returned the favor. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STIs afterward anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts. What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

===Negligee===
{{Main|Negligee}}
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|100px|left|A photo of Chris wearing the negligee in front of a fan.]]
Chris stated that he purchased a negligee and claimed that Barb approved of the idea.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> This was eventually confirmed on 3 March 2022, when a Reddit fan posted photos of themselves with Chris in the negligee.

{{clear}}

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris seems to be under the impression that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or been more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

Later on, he dropped the act and started outright denying the event altogether. This did not work.

==Awareness of wrongdoing==
Chris was aware of the illegal nature of incest. In August 2016, he read a news article on the topic of a mother and son charged with incest and commented on Facebook about it, defending the two and saying they should not be sent to jail.<ref name=dream></ref>

Five years later, in the midst of his own affair with his mother, Chris still demonstrated awareness that the action was illegal. While he desired to discuss the affair with people, he first concocted a cover story in which he used misleading euphemisms such as "lady friend" to describe his sexual partner and claimed that the supposed lady friend and Barb had met each other<ref name=spill>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris describes his lady friend]]</ref> and he insisted on keeping the identity of the lady friend secret,<ref name=soulbonding></ref><ref name=null>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref><ref name=wct></ref> though he dropped hints such as age<ref name=soulbonding></ref> and employment history.<ref name=null></ref>

After a month of using his cover story, Chris decided to push further and tell someone that his mother was the sexual partner. He selected [[Bella]]. Before telling her, Chris first tried to manipulate her into keeping silent on what he would say by using a guilt trip.

{{quote|And I ask you Not to Overthink or ask for further details in pressing on. That is not a good thing to do.|Chris to Bella, 17 July 2021<ref name=soulbonding></ref>}}

Over a week later, Chris, ready to divulge his secret, first claimed to Bella that he was uncertain of telling her as he was concerned about the government hacking into the conversation, which backfired on Chris as this tipped off Bella into suspecting that he was about to discuss an illegal act.<ref>[[Bella and Fiona chats#Bella suspects incest]]</ref>

{{quote|I realize I am remaining and sounding distant on the questioning, and it will become more clear and obvious when I tell you, in-person, who she is.

I actually wish I could tell you over text or voice call, but the government and anyone with the tech can easily hack into those methods|Chris, prior to the [[Incest Call]].<ref name=spill></ref>}}

Within the same conversation, Chris recommended using the encrypted text/video call app Signal (having used it to communicate with [[Null]]), which Bella agreed to download.<ref name=spill></ref>

After Chris's conversations about committing incest were publicly leaked, [[The WCT]] sent Chris messages over [[Discord]] asking him what had happened. Chris gave an explanation, then began deleting his messages. Chris requested that The WCT delete his side of the conversation as well, which WCT obliged (though had taken screenshots in real time to discuss with [[The Knights of CWC]]).<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref>

==Leaks==
{{main|Incest Call|Incest Texts}}
In the leaks, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris rubbing his mother and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.

{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics." The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to [[Dillin Thomas]].<ref name="admission">[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris confesses to Dillin Thomas]]</ref>

Prior to the allegations being revealed to the public, Chris informed [[Bella]], [[Null]], and [[The WCT]] about the fact that he found a [[boyfriend-free girl]], although he wanted her identity to remain secret. He offered multiple hints about the identity of his new [[sweetheart]] but told Null that he wanted him to figure out who it was. Null was initially skeptical of the incest claims since the [[Idea Guys]] previously coerced him into recording a (then untrue) statement that he had raped Barb and believed that this could be another instance of similar manipulation. Null hypothesized that Chris was attempting to protect the identity of his new girlfriend by making up an elaborate lie, but eventually came to realize that Chris had been having frequent sex with Barb upon reviewing Chris's hints.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Chris's "girlfriend"]]</ref>

After this information eventually came to light, Chris indicated that it was "drama" and that he only intended to share the information to [[Messiah complex|test his followers]], whom he trusted not to share the information with the public at large despite incest being illegal. Chris later compared Null to {{w|Judas Iscariot}} for "betraying" him by trusting him with such [[Honest Content]]. [[Chris and remorse|Chris being Chris]], he seems to be more upset over the fact that [[Honest Content|trusting people not to leak evidence of a criminal act]] led to [[Jail Saga|serious, life-changing consequences for him]] than the idea that he may have caused harm to Barb, and as multiple [[jail letters]] show, he does not have guilt over the fact that he did something illegal (not to mention he clearly hasn't learned from ''years'' of experience that [[Honest Content|constantly sharing personal information at the drop of a hat]], be it embarrassing or '''incriminating''' in this case, invariably comes back to bite him in the rear later on).

== Was it consensual? ==

{{Protip| The following information should not be taken as definite proof that Chris raped Barb or not; this is simply a list of evidence that Chris has provided himself, which due to Chris's habit of lying for the pettiest of reasons, can be seen as unreliable by some. Due to the sensitive nature of this topic, please avoid saying for sure if Chris did or did not rape Barb.}}

On the CWCki, there are two main camps that people fall into when discussing this topic:
There are people who believe the affair to be abusive or even flat-out rape, while there are other people who believe the affair was consensual between the two.

The following list contains many common points of argument for both sides but also a counterargument for each and every one.

The evidence for the affair being nonconsensual is as follows:

* Barb has been speculated to be suffering from dementia or some other form of mental decline; there are too many videos of her displaying symptoms to list, but this could be her intentionally faking it for sympathy donations. Also, some have pointed out that Barb was quite cognizant in other recent videos, adding weight to the theory that her behavior in the begging videos could have been exaggerated.
* Chris mentioned during [[Incest Texts]] that Barb told him to stop during his attempts to finger her; however, this would have been Chris's first time fingering a woman ([[Mia Hamm]] didn't allow him to do so during their times together) and Chris mentioned this act hurt Barb at first; meaning Barb could have been stopping him from his attempts due to the pain but otherwise consented to be fingered.
* Chris, during the [[Incest Call]], mentions that Barb seemed partially confused at first; However, Chris did say she "came around," so it's possible he was referring to his advances towards her, and she didn't initially understand/ believe what Chris was asking for.
* Chris mentioned in [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)]] that Barb was "Zombie-like" and not even aware of her surroundings even before the affair began; while damning (if true), it's worth mentioning that Chris during the letter is begging Kenneth for assistance in moving Barb out of the house, arguing that Barb simply cannot take care of herself. Chris, being Chris, could simply not know the implications of what he's actually saying, and it's quite possible that Chris is desperately lying since Kenneth disapproved of the idea unless there was no other option for Barb.

The evidence for the affair being consensual are as follows:

* Chris and Barbara's relationship is infamously creepy and way too close for comfort; this is the main source of people believing the affair was consensual and for good reason. Barb would often yell at Chris if he didn't share a bed with her, and Chris has admitted numerous times that he spoons with her (after Bob's death). They were also often seen talking to each other and even holding each other as if they were husband and wife for a long time before the affair began. Barb is infamous for being horribly [[Chris and manipulation|manipulative]] for her own personal gain, and she does not see any problem with coddling and emotionally blackmailing Chris in order to go along with what she wants to do (usually money or food-related stuff); with this in mind, while their relationship is definitely unhealthy for a mother and son to have, it does not prove that Barb was interested in an incestuous affair with Chris.
* Chris claimed to Null during his temporary homelessness in [[Null DMs|a direct message]] that the affair was definitely consensual; however, [[Honest Content|even somebody like Chris]] would probably hesitate to admit raping their own mother, especially to their main benefactor at the time.
* Chris boasted during the [[Incest Call]] that Barb was "having a good time" and even claimed that he let her make the first move; even if this is true, it does not rule out that Chris hadn't coerced or otherwise manipulated her into having sex with him since he did mention in the same call that she was "partially confused at first." Chris's idea of approaching a love interest with "care and caution" '''does not''' translate to consent or even consideration for somebody else's feelings; his idea of nervous behavior around [[Kacey]], for example, included touching her multiple times without her consent and his interactions with [[Megan]] which he describes as "friendly" also included a lot of unwanted attempts to hug and kiss her.
* In [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]], Chris claimed that after he lost his virginity to Mia Hamm and told his mom about it, Barb stated that she would have had sex with him herself; while this does sound like Barb offering herself to Chris, there is a massive possibility that Barb was simply saying he could [[Attraction Sign|pull women without paying them]]. Though definitely creepy, it does not mean she actually wanted sex with him and even if she did, the quote came from a decade beforehand so this would not count as consent.

In the end, we will perhaps never honestly know; Barb is apparently not willing to comment or give any further details (and thankfully, nobody has pressed her on such), and Chris is currently shifting the blame on a [[Shattered Glass Universe|supposed counterpart from another dimension]]. If Chris was formally charged and sentenced with felony incest (or perhaps rape), it could've been a case of Chris simply piling on tons of poorly worded evidence against himself [[Honest Content|(as he's done throughout most of his life)]]; but even since Chris's charge was dismissed, it could be seen as yet another example of the criminal justice system [[Honor roll|going easy]] on [[Autism|somebody with special needs]].

Ironically, despite this being one of the most critical moments in Chris's life, a life that has been documented extensively down to the finest detail, we continue to and will likely never know the essential details of it. What makes this even more unique is that the truth cannot be obtained from any trolls but from Chris and Barb themselves. Chris, being a notorious liar, will never tell the truth. The only one who can is Barb, assuming she is still lucid.

==Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration==
{{Needs Updating|[[Keffals videos#The Chris Chan Interview]]}}
During the incarceration that followed Chris's incest with his mother, he had communicated numerous times with members of the public via letters and telephone calls. Some of those letters (and one recorded phone call which has been publicly shared) contain commentary by Chris regarding the charges for which he was in jail. The first publicly available letter in which Chris touches on the subject of the alleged incest was written on [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|19 September 2021]]. In it, Chris appears to strongly imply that he, indeed, had sex with Barbara. Chris's comments on the affair are tied with the elaboration of his previously expressed delusions of Godhood. He reveals having realized himself to be the present-day reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The supreme Goddess Emanuelle had ordered him to purify Barbara of her sins and improve her abilities. In his description of how this was done, Chris writes that he and his mother "mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked." No explicit details are provided, but the rest of the letter strongly implies that sexual acts were included in Chris's "healing" of Barbara. Chris goes on to write that the healing he performed on his mother was similarly done by him on other individuals during his previous life as Jesus Christ, though the details of said healings were omitted from the Bible. Chris then goes on to inform the letter's recipient that "We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry" [sic]; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades?" While the word "adultery" is typically used to refer to marital infidelity, it appears that in this letter, it is intended to mean all acts that go against traditional sexual morality (i.e., what Christians have usually called "fornication"). By grouping the "healing" of Barbara in the same category as intimate relations between members of the same sex, Chris strongly implies that the "healing" of Barbara likewise included romantic and sexual acts. Chris's defense of the "healing" on the counts that all those who were involved in it were both willing and above the legal age of consent further enhances the impression that it was at least partially sexual in nature.

While the 19 September letter was just a few baby steps away from being an explicit admission of incest, it did not take long for Chris to become more coy as to whether or not incest between himself and Barb had occurred. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|1 November 2021 telephone call]], Chris fails to either explicitly deny or acknowledge that he and Barb had sex. The same ambiguousness regarding the truthfulness of the charges against him can be seen in a letter written on [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|16 November 2021]].

At some point, Chris changed his side of the story and began to outright deny that there was ever any sexual intimacy between him and his mother. Regarding public evidence, Chris first explicitly denied the charges against him in the [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022 jail letter]]. In the same letter, Chris alleges that in [[May 2012]], Barbara made sexual advances towards him after he revealed to her that he had paid a prostitute a month beforehand. He goes on to write that after the death of Bob, Barb came to see Chris as a husband-like figure. Further denials that Chris ever had sexual relations with Barb appear in jail letters written on [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|1 June]] and [[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022|4 June 2022]]. Chris does acknowledge that prior to his arrest, he told others that he had sex with Barb, but by now, he claims that those admissions were false. As he wrote in the 4 June 2022 letter: "I have never had sex with Barbara; that was purely Big Talk to Divinely Test everyone." In the letters from 19 September 2021 and 16 November 2021, Chris claimed that his pre-arrest admissions were made to test specific individuals, but (at least as far as public evidence goes) only from May 2022 did Chris begin to claim that these admissions were false.

On 17 October 2023 Chris uploaded [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], in which he [[List of Chris's lies|claims]] that he never had sex with Barb and was proven innocent in a court of law. On a [[November_2023_livestreams#Simple_Existential_Q&A|10 November livestream]], Chris claimed that he accessed memories from an alternate timeline to avoid being sent to jail by [[Bella]] and meeting [[Sockness]] at [[Everfree Northwest]]. On a [[December_2023_livestreams#Over_the_shoulder_colouring_stream|22 December livestream]], Chris once again changed his side of the story by claiming that his counterpart in the [[Dimensions#Shattered_Glass_Dimension|Shattered Glass Universe]] was the one who committed incest with Barb.

==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an Emergency Protective Order and then arrested the next day. In the wake of his charges, Chris was [[banned]] from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as ''[[The Binding of Isaac]]'' card game creator canceling a card he had requested Chris contribute, the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale, and [[Null]] offering refunds for [[Kiwi Farms silver coin|silver coins]] featuring Chris's likeness and stating he would never again sell items with direct reference to Chris.

Since then, he was held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail before getting transferred to [[Western State Hospital]], awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to CVRJ. In [[March 2023]], Chris was released from jail.

===Chris and Barbara's relationship===
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Chris and Barbara's relationship deteriorated during Chris's stay in jail. In a jail letter, Chris mentioned that Barb had ceased communicating with him. During the summer of 2022, Chris began to speak ill of Barb in his letters, insulting and making spurious claims about her, even blaming her for his situation.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref> While still in jail, Chris began planning for his housing post-release. In light of a restraining order being placed on Chris preventing him from contact with Barb<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]]</ref>, Chris believed he deserved to live in [[14 Branchland Court]] over Barb and requested his [[enablers]] assist him with a [[Kickstarter]] fundraiser to bribe Barb into moving into senior housing, claiming that [[Caden]] was helping with this scheme and that it was his initial idea.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>
Since his release, Chris has become increasingly resentful of Barb, and despite his dependence of her in the past, has dropped her like a hot potato.

=== Is the Affair still going now? ===

{{Protip| As horrifying as the implications are of Chris's actions and what he could potentially be doing, there is no definitive proof that Chris is continuing his incestuous relationship with his mother. Even if he is, and even if you believe he is abusing her, please refrain from calling [[A-logging|for vigilante justice]]. If evidence ever comes out about Chris abusing Barb the thing to do if you're concerned is to contact the local authorities, they will handle the situation in a lawful manner.}}

With Chris's release from jail and his subsequent dismissal of the case, Chris has returned to haunt Barb at least twice. While [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#14 Branchland Court|the first one]] was just Chris reclaiming his stuff, [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#14 Branchland Court (November)|the second time around]] Chris also claimed to have taken her out shopping, which might imply he does it at least semi regularly, although he hasn't been sighted there ever since.

On one hand, many could argue that Chris has learned his lesson and is scared enough about going to jail that he would refrain from continuing their affair. As stubborn as he can be about changing his attitude it should be noted that incarceration is one of the few things that can get Chris to behave himself afterward, 2015 was notable for Chris [[Law|mostly behaving himself]] for the entire year due to a measly single day in jail. So logically, one could argue that a whole 2 years would shake Chris up enough not to touch Barb again.

However, [[Remorse|Chris doesn't think he did anything wrong]] in fact, he has outright stated in his many [[jail communications]] that he believed he was actually doing a good thing for Barb by "spiritually healing her" with his actions. Chris is aware that his actions are illegal, even years prior he knew [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts| that incest was illegal]] but infamously still encouraged it at the time and would go on to commit the acts himself many years later. Chris has also been deliberately keeping a low profile for once in his life and has [[Helena Fiorenza|only one known communication with the outside world]]. It is entirely possible that Chris has not learned his actions were wrong and shouldn't be repeated, but instead that he should keep his mouth shut about it.

==Fan videos==

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==See also==
{{FanArt}}
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Jail Saga]]
*[[Soul Bonding]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac‎]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}
{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

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List of Chris's lies

2024-04-01T16:05:42Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Protip|This list will likely never be complete, due to just ''how much'' Chris lies. However, most of Chris's notable lies are here, and if you spot another one, you may add it to this page}}

{{quote|Your letter has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. Thank you for your time and efforts.|A classic lie from [[Mailbag 52]].}}

{{quote|I do not lie all the time; I lie some of the time.|[[Chris]], lying during the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]]}}

[[Chris]], not being one to accept personal responsibility, will frequently '''lie''' to save face. This trait was likely inherited from his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]], whose dishonesty [[Cole Smithey E-mails|was described]] by [[Cole Smithey]] as "pathological".

In many cases, he will lie in a meager attempt to be "clever" or "outwit" the [[trolls]]. However, Chris is totally incapable of lying in a way that looks remotely convincing, so his lies have the opposite effect (e.g. [[CWC_Update_26_January_2009|going to Redmond]]). In other cases, he will lie to deny accepting personal responsibility for his [[Autism|actions]] (e.g. drawing [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Rule 34]] of [[Megan Schroeder]]).

The reason why Chris is capable of telling bald-faced lies while still claiming to be [[Honest Content|true and honest]] probably derives from failing to understand the concept of a "white lie": a lie told out of courtesy to avoid trouble and/or offending people. Because telling this kind of lie usually is socially acceptable and won't tarnish one's reputation, Chris, in his usual blindness to social rules, probably learned through his [[autistic|brain]] that it is okay to lie in order to save face because it is possible to do so while still remaining true and honest.

Complicating this further is the fact that Chris does not attempt to support his claims with any shred of evidence, and will contradict his lies with even more lies. The end result is that Chris is more or less a compulsive liar.

This list serves to document as many of Chris's blatant falsehoods as possible. While Chris is known to speak half-truths, exaggerate, etc., the fact that he is willing to outright tell blatant lies and untruths with no grounds, in reality, is disturbing and this list serves to document the latter.

==Chris's lies==
* Chris claims in his [[Chris's resume|resumé]] that he was employed at [[Wendy's]] from August to October [[2001]], but he admitted to [[Kacey]]'s father that he had been fired prior to 11 September.
* Chris claims in his [[Pixelated PS3|PS3 contest video]] that the reason he made his imitation [[PS3]] out of [[Pixelblocks]] and not wood is because wood is not a hard enough material. The real reason, of course, is that Chris has no woodworking skills whatsoever.
* Chris claimed that mowing the lawn was a demanding physical chore for him, despite using a riding lawnmower to do it (though, in Chris's defense, it's entirely possible that mowing a lawn even with the aid of a riding lawnmower could have been genuinely physically demanding for him [[Chris and health|given what we know about his health]]).
* In a [[Mumble]] chat, he lied and said that [[nudes|nude]] photos of him on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] were photoshopped, despite consenting to the photos.<ref>[[Mumble 2|Mumble Chat #2]], ~44 minute mark</ref> Chris also lied to someone he believed to be [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] about the ED images being photoshopped.<ref name="ReferenceA">[[Miyamoto Saga#From Chris to Miyamoto]]</ref>
* For two days, Chris claimed to have a new [[sweetheart]] named [[Chloe]] after the [[Blanca]] breakup. The first mention was to his fans, of all people.<ref>[[Chris's Sonichu IRC Chloe Introduction]]</ref> Yet, if he were already seeing Chloe, why was he sad about breaking up with Blanca? Chris claimed to have met Chloe IRL at [[GameStop]], where they struck up a conversation, yet Chris has constantly said he freezes even while practicing talking to women.<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref> He even said that they had a date together at Taco Bell and shared his first kiss with her. The most damning evidence is Chris never mentioned Chloe again. Furthermore, as of [[Mailbag 13|Mailbag #13]], he says that he has "no recollection of a Chloe."
* Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 26th, 2009|lied]] about taking a trip to Redmond because he had no financial support and to get a "Peaceful Weekend Getaway from the Trolls of the internet."<ref name="ReferenceA"/>
* Chris claims he jogs regularly for more than 20 seconds, [[Sonichu's Edge|despite proving he is incapable of doing so.]]
* Chris [[Piedmont_Virginia_Community_College#Kicked_Out_of_College|claimed]] that he was kicked out of class because he told his professor that he was autistic, when the [[Jackie_Chat_5|real reason]] was him making a homophobic (and racist) comment in front of everyone.
* Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|claimed]] that [[Blanca]] received the [[medallion]] and sent it back so Chris could modify it, yet the medallion with the "special marks" was destroyed on YouTube. Furthermore, in a private chat with [[Robert Simmons V]]{{cite}}, Chris admits that the medallion was procured and was hastily working on a new one to throw the trolls off guard.
* When a nefarious IRL [[Jerkop]] confronted Chris on his [[Attraction Sign]], Chris quickly hid the sign while the Jerkop left to get the [[Manajerk]]. Then, Chris proceeded to lie and pretend he never brought the sign, resulting in him being banned from the store.
* Chris claimed that he was banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] forever for going behind the counter. In fact, as revealed by [[Mimms]] on the PVCC forum, the ban for going behind the counter was temporary, and what got him banned forever was the fact that he got into a shouting match with a child and treated the [[Michael Snyder|store's manager]] rudely. Possibly, Chris was mistaken, as he can be [[Slow-in-the-minds|slow in the mind]] sometimes.
* In an e-mail,<ref>[[Chris E-mails 2008]] - "Against me, [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|that page]] has broken the closest thing I've had to a relationship with Megan Schroeder, who I've finally had at her first time of saying with feeling, 'I Love You' to me, then she found that page and she broke up with me."</ref> Chris claimed Megan said she loved him, when in reality she said no such thing.
* He has made occasional claims<ref>See [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 18th, 2009]] and [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 29th, 2009]].</ref> that he really doesn't hate [[homos]], despite several instances of him showing otherwise.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]], [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE]], [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]], [[It's UGH!]], [[CWC "Boyfriend"]], [[Bless the Fans, Curse the Trolls]]</ref>
* In an [[IRC (20 January 2009)|IRC chat]]<ref>[[IRC (20 January 2009)]] at 21:21</ref> with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[BILLY MAYS]], Chris told Clyde, "People who call others homo are themselves in dire question of their own sexual preferences." When Clyde pointed out that Chris had called Clyde a homo just minutes earlier in the same chat, Chris lied that he didn't. When Chris was shown the exact words he typed, he said it didn't count because he was retaliating against Clyde's remark.
* Impersonated [[CChanSonichuCWC]] and called [[Kacey]], telling her about his sexual fantasies (which involves [[recycling]]).<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>
* Chris's challenges to CChanSonichuCWC began with a [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 29th, 2009|video]] in Spanish, stating that if Liquid Chris could not respond in Spanish, that would prove he is the impostor. When that backfired horribly, Chris then issued the [[SingStar Challenge|''SingStar'' Challenge]] to determine who is the real Chris. When Chris lost the ''SingStar'' Challenge, he declared that the contest meant nothing.
* Chris made a fake page<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20071108233910/http://members.aol.com/CWCSonichu/EPPromotions283.html</ref> mimicking [[PS3|PlayStation]].com that showed him as the winner of the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa'' contest]].
* Trying to sound like a tough guy, Chris claimed in a [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 15th, 2009|15 October 2009]] Captain's Log entry that he "did not give a dang" about the reappearance of [[Liquid Chris]], which is obviously not true since Solid devoted the entire first half of the Captain's Log to discrediting Liquid. Solid also stated that it would be the last time he mentioned Liquid, so of course he mentioned him again in [[Brutal Legend Plus|a video six days later]]. In that video, Solid even used one of [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_1#CChanSonichuCWC.27s_Entry|Liquid's ''SingStar'' Challenge songs]] to mock the [[trolls]] (the song's original purpose is to mock Solid), proving that Liquid does indeed still agitate him.
* In [[Mailbag 14|Mailbag #14]], Chris offered a revisionist account of his ejection from [[Grace Baptist Church]], claiming that he was banned from the congregation because his pastor "found images of women in bikinis on my Facebook; he was offended." In fact, as Chris himself revealed in an e-mail to [[Lordsillynipples]] in 2008, he was kicked out after his pastor discovered the catalog of Chris's sexually deviant behavior on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], as well as the deranged YouTube rant from his [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|25th birthday]].
* In [[Mailbag 25|Mailbag #25]], Chris revealed that he told [[Bob Chandler|his father]] that he had taken the videos of the [[14 Branchland Ct.|Chandler house]] off the Internet. The videos are still available on YouTube.
* Chris began receiving e-mails in [[January 2010]] pointing out to him that his drawings of the Raichu from which Rosechu spawned in [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] had a pointed tail instead of a blunted one, meaning the Raichu was male. What makes this incident unique is that Chris could have easily resolved the entire conflict. Since Chris is a longtime fan of the series, he could have easily thought "Wait a sec, when did male and female Pokemon start using different sprites again?", done a few quick searches online, and found that all Raichu were drawn with pointed tails prior to 2006. Eventually, after Chris uploaded an edited page and claimed that the tail had been blunt all along, he had this realization...after someone else showed him Bulbapedia.
* In early [[February 2010]], Chris added a note to the [[CWCipedia]] page for [[Simonla Rosechu]] which claimed that she is a completely original character, and not a sloppy knockoff of [[Evan]] George's [[Simonla_Rosechu|Simonchu]]. This was, of course, an obvious lie, contradicted by Chris's own e-mails and other statements about Simonla's creation. Later, in a [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 4|phone conversation]] with Alec Benson Leary, Chris acted surprised that anyone would be unwilling to accept this "retraction" of the truth, suggesting that he doesn't even comprehend why people might not believe his lies.
* On Chris's [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 5|fifth phone call with Alec]], Chris very quickly found his own logic being used against him. To extricate himself from having to admit he was wrong, Chris instead set the phone down and very unconvincingly pretended to be his own [[Barbara Chandler|mother]], carrying on a small "conversation" with Chris asking him to clean up some [[Chandler cats|cat shit]]. Chris then came back to the phone to tell Alec his mom needed him to take care of the cat and that he had to hang up.
* During the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|eighth conversation with Alec]], Chris claims Nintendo sent him a letter saying Chris had free reign to use Pikachu in his comic, but when Alec asked Chris to upload the letter, Chris said he "misplaced" it. Also, during the call, Chris confidently stated that he "regularly" plays every single one of the games he owns – this being a valid reason he could not sell them for money. Chris owns [[List of Chris's games|roughly 600]] different video games, so unless Chris has figured out [[Time Void|a way to stop time]], it would be impossible for him to play all of those games regularly.
* Chris went to great lengths to tell the fans that he would never show gore and violence in his comics. However, he breaks this statement by killing Evan in a very gory fashion in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. He later insists in [[Jackie_Chat_1|his first chat with Jackie]] that it was justified because Alec "gored it up first." Episode #17, which was written long before ''Asperchu'' even began, ended with Rosechu stripping naked, ''clawing a man's head open'', ''electrocuting him'', and ''leaving him in a puddle of his own blood''.
* When the trolls started to demand more comics, Chris stated that he was never sure whether he wanted to make money with ''Sonichu''; if that were true, he would never have tried to make a [[Sonichu Adventure|video game]] about ''[[Sonichu]]'', nor try to sell it to businesspeople.
* Chris has repeatedly referred to [[The Wallflower]] as his "girlfriend", despite making a video [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|pleading for her to be with him]], and, in fact, complaining about her essentially putting him in the [[friend zone]].
* Chris promised to [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|"remove [him]self from the Internet"]], only to return in less than 48 hours [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant|to rant about the Cleveland Show]].
* [[Michael_Snyder_is_ColdHearted_and_Mean|While trying to get himself back into The GAMe PLACe]], Chris told Michael Snyder that he's become a better person. This is after all the things he's done since [[2008#April|April 2008]]. He ends this meeting by calling Michael a Jew, despite stating he had nothing against Jews not five minutes earlier.
* Chris's [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia article about The Wallflower]] contains some of the biggest flights of fancy, blatant lies, exaggerations, half-truths, and flat-out delusions seen yet from Chris outside of the [[Father Call]]. Specifically, he claimed that he and The Wallflower had shared a kiss; since this would have been Chris's "real" first kiss (aside from "[[Chloe]]", a lie), it was considered important by obsessive CWCki editors to see if he remembers it later (the Wallflower CWCipedia page article was written on April the 19th). Naturally, [[Jackie e-mails Part 2|leaked e-mails from Jackie]] show that by the 10th of April, ''nine days before making this highly suspicious claim'', Chris had either a.) [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Jackie.27s_Questionaire_1|momentarily forgotten that he had been kissed]] – a monumental occasion in his life; b,) lied on his CWCipedia about being kissed; or c.) lied to Jackie about being kissed. In the end, a lie is still a lie, although it's ''possible'' he's basing his story on a gross exaggeration of the truth (the two sharing a drinking straw is the current troll favorite for this).
* In [[Mailbag 49|Mailbag #49]], when asked about his opinion on a possible repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy that would allow open homosexuals to serve in the U.S. military, Chris said that he thought the policy should only be repealed so that "the [[homos]] can go die in explosions." When called out on this in [[Mailbag 51|several]] [[Mailbag 53|later]] [[Mailbag 54|Mailbags]], Chris forgoes apology to either deny the claim ever took place or claimed that he had retracted it. Later, he would alter an e-mail in [[Mailbag 51|Mailbag #51]] which contained the quoted remark to make it appear as though Chris was being pro-gay in the original e-mail. Up until the death of the CWCipedia in May 2010, the original, homophobic reply in [[Mailbag 49|Mailbag #49]] remained unchanged and unretracted.
* In the [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|e-mails]] with Clyde Cash and [[Surfshack Tito]] about Chris's PS3, Chris swore that he would not reveal the name of his [[Jackie|new girlfriend]]. He broke this promise in [[To Jackie, with Love.MOV|a video]] not two weeks later.
* Also in the [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails]], Chris said he would not buy another PS3. Not only did he do that and begin earning trophies about two weeks later, but he also bought a PS Move controller ([[ECV 00001|seen in this video]]).
* In [[Jackie_E-mails_23|an e-mail exchange with Jackie]], he claims his [[Duck|penis]] is bigger than previously photographed and is no longer bent.
* Chris told [[Vivian Gee]] that he read her book, ''[[A Girl Who Brought Down the World]]'', when, in reality, he gave it to [[Rocky Shoemaker|his pastoral counselor]], and never touched it beyond that.<ref>[[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke]]</ref>
* In the [[Miyamoto emails]], Chris claims he never sexually harassed [[Megan Schroeder]], despite drawing [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]], and Megan repeatedly having told Chris to stop touching her.<ref>[[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006]]</ref><ref>[[Megan_Emails,_Jan-July_2007]]</ref><ref>[[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007]]</ref>
* On the [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, he said that if homosexuals 'kept it behind closed doors', he wouldn't bother them. Aside from his well-known issues with [[Homos]], his comic states that if he had the power, he'd constantly [[Magi-Chan|be on the lookout for homosexual activity]], and punish them to suit.
* In [[You're Always Pretty]], Chris told his mother he was taking pictures of her when he was really recording a video of her.
* When Chris informed his [[mother]] that he [[PS3#Destruction|destroyed his PS3]], he told her that the machine was already malfunctioning before he smashed it to bits. In reality, the PS3 was still operational when Chris decided to put it out of use.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 11]]</ref>
* When he held the [[Alex's Lemonade Stand|lemonade stand]], he claimed that his father died of cancer, when in fact, he died of complications from heart failure. However, this could just be Chris assuming [[Bob]] died of cancer because he had it (at least at one point), and not taking time to look into his actual cause of death.
* Chris told [[Jackie]] in an email that he has grown tolerant of the [[HEXBox|Xbox 360]] and respects those who own one, but recently in 2013, Chris went back on his word by defacing a display for the Xbox One at his local [[Mal-Wart|Walmart]], thus proving that his bizarre hatred for the HEX-BOX is still strong.
* Despite Chris' obvious morbid [[Obesity|obesity]], he has always lied about his weight, being evasive and giving numbers that are more consistent with [[Chris and reality|his own delusional self-image than reality]]. As early as [[February 2010]], Chris admitted that he had at one point weighed more than 220 pounds. On Facebook on 4 January 2014, he claimed that he [[Obesity#Actual weight|weighed only 202 pounds]], despite his obvious sagging, triple chin visible in his profile picture. Users of the CWCki forums generally speculated that, based on the photographic evidence, he was probably underestimating his own weight by at least 60 pounds (~27 kilograms).
* When Catherine said no to a relationship with Chris, Chris told her that [[Catherine_E-mails#It_IS_Your_Fault.21|he was entitled to a relationship]]. In a [[Catherine_E-mails#Re:_Well.2C_that.27s_nypical|later e-mail]] ''(presumably after being called on his bullshit)'', he claimed he said no such thing. On that note, he also publicly referred to her as his "girlfriend" for months, despite Catie saying to him point-blank that their outings were not dates.
* Chris has stated that he has D-cup breasts. Kiwi Farms users have determined that they are actually A-cups.
* Chris did a promotion where if someone sent him a PS4 for his birthday, they would get a $500 coupon for his custom-made Sonichu Amiibos. Obviously, nobody sent him a PS4, but that didn't stop him from saying someone did. He claims someone named Kagney Lynn bought him the PS4, but upon closer examination of his Facebook page shows that the details of the order are linked to Fingerhut, the company he bought the PS4 from. This proves he bought the system himself.
* In [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation]], Chris lied about his Etsy shop being on vacation when it had been forcibly closed by Etsy staff, due to repeated complaints that he was not delivering orders. He also lied about working to set up a Zazzle shop; he decided to [[beg]] for handouts over the next several months instead.
* Chris lied about seeing a doctor about the [[self-inflicted taint wound]] and later about the photos of it being an elaborate troll.
* Chris continually lied about his "creative groove" being "killed" because [[Lulu]] banned him. In reality, he had stopped work on the comic long before that happened, and he had even solved the publisher problem within a month, by sneaking back onto Lulu under an alternate name.
* Chris repeatedly lied about his reason for selling [[EBay|his father's stamp collection]], claiming he needed money for bills but immediately spending it all on toys<ref>[[Financhu Crisis#March_.2717]]</ref>.
* Chris claimed in [[I Am Sick of the HATE!!! (I could use a break)]] that Bob was the one who revealed their address and phone number to the Internet despite it being Chris who did so and has done so on numerous occasions.
* During the Doopie saga, Chris said to Doopie that he was taking care of his parents. But his dad had already been dead for years, long before he had ever spoken to Doopie.
* Chris claimed you could tell that [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] was inhabiting his body by his change in [[Autism|mannerisms]], however, he is acting exactly the same (to be fair, [[Chris and writing|all his shitty recolors act like him]]).
* Chris intentionally misled [[The WCT]], [[Spunky]], [[Null]], [[Warhol/Chris Chan|Don Lashomb]], and [[Bella]] about the identity of his sexual partner in July 2021, telling them his new girlfriend was a woman over the age of 50 when in fact [[Affair with Mother|it was his own 79-year-old mother]].<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> He even responded in the affirmative when asked by The WCT if his girlfriend and his mother had met ("They have, yes, and Barbie is fully supportive"). Chris would eventually brag about the truth (more or less) to Bella in the [[incest call]].
* After the incest incident where Chris was issued a protective order, Null confronted Chris about a transfer of $750 from Barb's account to his. Chris feigned ignorance of this until Null produced a screenshot of the theft.
* In [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022]], Chris claimed that "No sex was had between Barbara and I," - directly contradicting his own words during the [[Incest Call]] - and that he had "foreknown about the Betrayal plans from [[Bella]], [[Null]], as well as [[Sockness]] long before even [[June 2021|June, 2021]]." He had also tried to claim that Bella had confessed to "faking" much of what he said in the call, not providing details as to when she confessed to this, or the circumstances to which she confessed in.
* In [[Jail Letter - 27 June 2022]], Chris claims that he was not attracted to Bella and that they were "Just Friends". Despite this, he claimed in a chat with the Watchmen that he considered her a potential sweetheart.<ref>[[The Place chats - Lonely Feelings]]</ref>
* The [[October 2023]] video titled [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]] is ironically packed with lies. Chris falsely claims the court found him innocent of his incest charge (the charge had been dismissed following Chris's lawyer's filing for an autism deferred disposition). Chris also claims he did not have sex in 2021, insisting he did not have sex with Barb, contradicting DMs he had sent to [[Bella]], [[Null]], and [[The WCT]], as well as his admissions to Null, [[Dillin Thomas]], and The WCT immediately following the incest leak that he had sex with his mother. Chris also spreads unproven rumors about Bella in his anger towards her.
* In the [[Keffals_videos#The_Chris_Chan_Interview|interview with Keffals on January 16th, 2024]], Chris once again lies about the circumstances of his crimes and his arrest, calling Bella a sexually perverted deviant who persistently approached him with ideas of 'sexual deviations' and claiming awareness of her plans, saying she 'failed the test' when she took recordings of the assorted conversations she had with Chris and spliced them together to create the [[incest call]]. This conflicts with several private messages and admissions he has made to several parties including Bella herself, and the information presented within the incest call which shows that Chris initiated conversation on that topic. Further, he appears to double down on his claim that he did not have sex with Barb, now saying that their time together ahead of Chris' arrest involved him talking with her about her family history, 'revitalising her brain cells and everything'. He also continues to spread more unproven rumors regarding Bella's intentions.
* In a tweet from 22 January 2024, Chris claimed that the older girlfriend he had described to [[Null]] in [[July 2021]] was "[[Fiona]], at least in wishful thinking at the time."<ref>[[January 2024 social media posts#Motherfucker, part 2]]</ref> This lie contradicts statements he had made to Null that his older girlfriend was over 50 (which was true of [[Barbara Chandler]] but not of the then-19 year old Fiona).<ref>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref>
* Among various things in [[BABSCon#2024|Chris's response to BABScon]] in [[March 2024]], notifying him that he's been [[List of places that have banned Chris|banned]] from attending the convention permanently, he claims "(he had) committed no crimes" and attributes his negative reputation to false rumours spread by [[Trolls]]. It bears repeating that Chris had gotten a ''third'' major felony on his record by then, not to mention Chris was the one to [[Honest Content|put out unsavory information about himself in the first place]].

==See Also==
*[[Chris and hypocrisy]]
*[[Honest Content]]

==Sources==
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Chris and kindness

2024-02-16T20:20:57Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Chris and his morality */

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{{quote|I Knew they were trolls, but they had Good Intentions, and they were genuinely Kind Individuals. I am not listening to your bull shit.| Chris showing that he prefers kindness over reason.<ref>[[December 2019 social media posts#Teen Troon Squad]]</ref>}}
{{quote|For I am ze kind and compassionate Chrrristine Chandler! | Chris, proclaiming his kindness and [[A New, Fun Trick|his ability to roll his R's]]}}
[[File:Cwcconvnetioncard.jpeg|thumb|200px|"Show me kindness and fun: I smile for you all!"]]

Despite all of his moments of [[Chris and anger|rage]], [[Death threats|death threats]], [[lies]], and... [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|yuck]], Chris does have a soft side, and he is not afraid to show it. As of recently, he will more often than not be motivated to act '''kind''' towards other people, even towards complete strangers. Due to his [[autism]] and upbringing making it difficult to empathize with others, these attempts are often awkward and occasionally cross the line to disrespect.

Chris has also shown a number of times that due to his facade of kindness to others, he can very easily be [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] by other people, as he rarely questions anyone's intentions beforehand, as that would be the "unkind" thing to do. This shows that Chris seems to have a stronger appeal to just being kind to people for its own sake, rather than so that he can be more approachable, as he cannot distinguish when it is most appropriate to accept an offer vs politely declining it.

==Origins of his kindness==

Given his obsessions with fictional media, [[Borb|and what we know about his formative years]], it's very likely that Chris learned much of his ideals and how to act towards others from [[Chris and television|watching television as a child]] (note that Chris once stated on a school assignment that he considers TV an effective part of child-rearing<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks#Chapter 1 study guide]]</ref>). Among 80's cartoons like ''[[Transformers]]'' and ''The Smurfs'', he has specifically cited ''Care Bears''<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 30]]</ref> <ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris leaves over a claim of homosexuality]]</ref> and '''especially''' ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' (his first role model before ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''<ref>[[Chris's Wikipedia profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>) as influences.

This might also explain why Chris [[Chris and hypocrisy|preaches the importance of virtues he has demonstrably failed to live up to]] for years (and still does), sees the world with simplistic black and white morality, [[Jackie E-mails 23|resists anyone telling him hard truths because they don't sound nice and sympathetic enough]], [[Chris and manipulation|easily latches onto anything seemingly beneficial to him without a second thought]] and so forth. [[Autism#Understanding_others'_intentions|His tendencies toward binary perception]] and [[Chris and manipulation|poor perception of reality]] presumably didn't help one bit either.

== Chris and his morality ==

[[File:Chris' Big Dilema.jpg|thumb|Chris conflicting with his morality and his desires at the same time|200px]]

{{Protip|Please be aware that ''the Chris described below'' evolved into [[Affair with Mother|a literal motherfucker]] in [[June 2021|early June, 2021]] and slept with his mother "every three days" until Chris was finally ordered out of [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]'s house on [[July 2021|the 30th of July]] by Social Services. Revising this page will be a difficult task. Altering this older portrait of our "selfish but harmless idiot" would make it harder to illustrate the changes in him and his ability to justify all of his own actions, [[Chris and sex#Incest|however depraved]].}}

Like his beliefs on [[Chris and religion|religion]] and [[Chris and gender|gender]], Chris's stance on morality is difficult to interpret. Chris often claims that he is a kind, good-natured, saintly person that doesn't deserve scorn. To a certain extent, he's right, but for all of the wrong reasons.

Despite what one may think about Chris, the reality is that he is relatively harmless and is somewhat capable of distinguishing right and wrong. But that is only scratching the surface, as Chris's selfishness and [[Naïve|naivete]] often turn out to be the main culprits behind him doing immoral actions, rather than true malevolence.

One infamous example of this behavior is when he foolishly drew and uploaded [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] onto Encyclopedia Dramatica as a means to combat all of the pictures of [[duck]]s and [[pickle]]s he found on the site, as well as to [[Homos#Fear of being a homo|prove his straightness]], not thinking about how [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] might respond to being depicted in such an undignified manner in a shoddily drawn piece of porn. Megan, who was looking for just about any reason to stop talking to Chris,<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post]]</ref> was understandably revolted. However, what cements the fact that his naivete was partly responsible is how Chris tried to explain to Megan what happened in the picture itself, thinking that she was inexperienced with [[Chris and sex|sex]], and didn't understand what was going on, rather than the obvious fact that she was depicted in such a demeaning situation, and that Chris obviously wants to pound her.

An outsider's account has confirmed this, specifically that of [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A|Mimms and Lucas]]. Mimms stated that Chris didn't seem aware he had committed wrongdoings to justify getting banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] (but he certainly knew he was no longer welcome there)<ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris's_ban_from_the_store]]</ref>. Though Chris didn't seem to recall anything beyond a so-called [[Jackie_E-mails#Chris_hates_authority|"Wii incident"]] or "[[100_2261.MOV|shout(ing) a loud outburst twice]]", he still saw fit to try and [[Chris and remorse|apologize]] to [[Michael Snyder]] (in a predictably failed bid to have his ban repealed).

Whoever Chris acts kindly to depends on who he would classify as [[Gal-Pals|his "friends"]] and [[Trolls|his "enemies".]] If someone gets in the way of whatever he wants to do, or he shifts the blame on someone else for his own fails, Chris will deem that someone as a troll that wants nothing more of him than to make him miserable, showing very little respect of whoever inconvenienced him. Whoever Chris doesn't classify as a troll or feels "temporarily" joined the side of the trolls are his friends. Typically, Chris will attempt to befriend internet celebrities and staff members of the media he enjoys.

== Empathy ==

Chris has a very warped understanding of empathy. This could be attributed to his autism, as autistic people generally have difficulty empathizing with others, although Chris's case has much more to do with his upbringing.

His dubious (if virtually nonexistent) ability to empathize has also led him to denounce most anyone with whom he had a conflict as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|mean, heartless]] or even [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|flat out villainous]], irrespective of all evidence pointing towards responsibility for turmoil falling on him. Despite fervently chiding them for allegedly lacking a heart, he often neglects to take ''their'' thoughts and feelings into consideration [[Chris and hypocrisy|himself]], preferring to instead jump to conclusions just because they happen to deviate from his extremely simplistic ideals (not to mention deny him what he feels entitled to have).

== Motivations for doing good ==

===[[Love Quest]] and [[gal pals]]===

[[File:Doopie White Knights Chris.jpg|thumb|200px]]

While socializing with his alleged pals, Chris always takes the time to act as kind as possible to them, to the point where it becomes downright disturbing. Unsurprisingly, Chris has used Social Media as a means of continuing his [[Love Quest]] and finding the [[sweetheart]] he has desired for over a decade. Because of that, most of the people [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|Chris attempts to befriend are girls]], with and [[Boyfriend-Free Girl|without boyfriends]].

In terms of friendships on social media, whenever he feels he's up the creek without a paddle, Chris will almost always doubt that he is in any way responsible for anybody turning against him because, in his eyes, he is too kind for anyone to simply block him on Twitter or to be hated by the masses, and instead [[Chris and remorse|shifts the blame on the trolls]]. This coupled with the fact that Chris refuses to see the worst out of his friends unless he gets the hint that they denied access to their [[china]] makes it sound even more disturbing.

===Defending others===
As mentioned above with the Doopie saga, Chris has a tendency to believe he is doing good when in reality, he isn't. A common motivation for doing what he believes to be good is so that he can 'defend' someone he thinks is close to him; Chris has demonstrated this numerous times with Troll-created [[Sweethearts]], such as attempting to 'defend' [[Julie]] from [[Clyde Cash]] in voice chat sessions, then [[Ohio Trip|driving all the way to Cleveland]] in his belief that she would be there. Chris has also attempted to shift the focus of [[Weening]] against Doopie to himself in his [[HarassCWCdirectly|Twitter campaign]], when in reality the situation, far less serious than he thought it was, could have been resolved had Chris simply quieted down.

===Avoiding trouble===

In other instances, Chris will only act kindly to people to avoid getting into trouble. Whenever he tries to apologize to anyone, it's usually for reasons such as getting his [[PSN]] account back, or in an attempt to get back into places he was banned from.

===Personal benefit===

In general, the reason for Chris's acting kindly towards others is his thinking that doing so is the best way to manipulate them into doing whatever he wants them to. This is possibly due to his misunderstanding of simple etiquette and manners.

== How Chris demonstrates kindness ==

{| class="wikitable"
|[[Chris and remorse|Apologizing]]
|As mentioned above, Chris has a very limited understanding of empathy. On the rare occasions in which Chris admits his misdeeds and apologizes for them, [[Chris and negotiation|ulterior motives]] are usually, if not always, present. This is in part to [[Borb|his upbringing]] and otherwise due to other things such as [[autism]], all of which limit his ability to understand empathy. Curiously, Chris seems to lack the tendency to over-apologize for things, a trait known to be found in people on the spectrum, and normally will remain obstinate and particularly stubborn in his opinions unless forced to admit he was wrong, or if apologizing for some self-serving purpose.
|-
|Using pet names
|To refer to a gal-pal in a "kind" nonsexual manner, Chris will often refer to them as either [[Darling|"darling" or "dear"]].<ref>[[LadyOfTheCosmo]]</ref> However, since Chris obviously doesn't understand how creepy it is to refer to a girl he's just met on the internet as a "darling", most girls who talk to Chris online will be set off by Chris's misuse of the word.
|-
|Gift-giving
|Chris has shown several times his belief that kindness can be equated to simply furnishing others with luxuries such as video games, movies, comic books and other such gifts, not realising that charity alone is not the only virtue required to be considered kind. Perhaps the most noticeable instance of this was during his friendship with [[Megan]], in which he carried out a protracted program of gift-giving practically right up to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the moment it all came crashing down.]] The [[Idea Guys]] [[Chris and manipulation|manipulated]] this aspect of Chris's beliefs on kindness to have him be extorted into providing them with vast sums of money, alongside brand new video games and consoles, as revealed by invoices provided by Chris to the [[Guard Dogs]] during the early stages of [[Guard Dogs#Extortion|Operation Kingsnake]].
|-
|}

== Genuine acts of kindness ==
During [[Liquid Chris]] saga, Chris wanted to get Liquid arrested, and therefore placing him in prison. However, after talking with [[Kacey]], he decided that he "would hate to see you in jail, out of respect, and of care, because she would be heartbroken."<ref>[[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!]]</ref> It's worth mentioning that only a few seconds later, he threatens to get him tried in court, so this should be taken with a grain of salt.

Chris once participated in raising funds for [[Alex's Lemonade Stand]], a charity program that works to raise awareness of childhood cancer. Although he did it in memory of his [[Bob Chandler|deceased father]], who actually passed away as a result of heart disease rather than cancer, it was still considered a positive contribution Chris made to society.

He also donated to Red Cross in the wake of Hurricane Harvey in September 2017.

== See also ==

* [[Chris and remorse]]

== References ==
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White-Knights

2024-01-28T21:31:40Z

FurryChristorian789: /* Chris won't ever learn his lesson, no matter what you tell him */

{{Protip|As good as your intentions may be, there is no conceivable way any old e-friend can reach Chris at this point and change him for the better. Certainly not by continuing to ass-pat and pamper him, which is precisely what fucked him up so badly in the first place; as this wiki evidences copiously.}}

{{quote|[Chris] blocked me too. We defend her, buy from her and encourage her. A truly repulsive person.|Former white knight [[David90637947]].<ref>https://twitter.com/David90637947/status/1154345242834812929</ref>}}

{{quote|White knights [during the [[Miscreants]] era] were subverted. Their messages blocked, deleted before Chris could see them. If they got through, trolls would leak their conversations with Chris and accuse the helper of being the culprit.|[[Marvin]], one of Chris's former trolls.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Subverted White Knights]]</ref>}}

[[Image:Jack's Knight as William Spicer.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Artist's impression.]]

'''White-Knighting''' is a term used to describe the act of going on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad|pity or compassion]], or for ulterior motives. People who do this are often referred to as '''White-Knights'''. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].

Thanks to events following from the Idea Guys, most white knights now fall into a sub-group referred to as '''Anti-Trolls''', those who try to ward other trolls and Tetrad members away from Chris to have him for themselves, rather than for noble purposes. These are not to be confused with the other sub-group of White Knights, counter-trolls, who primarily fight against trolls to protect Chris, rather to troll him themselves.

'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme, which is effectively gatekeeping.

In the broader internet trolling community, a wide range of people, from neutral observers to even his greatest trolls, are accused of being white knights. This is mostly due to Chris's "fans" discouraging [[Weening]], [[Enablers|Enabling]] and [[A-Logging]], acts which, to outside observers, could be misinterpreted as an attempt to reduce trolling. Many of these outside observers are also confused by the tendency of Chris's trolls, including his most [[Vivian Gee|prolific]] [[Clyde Cash|ones]], trying to get him to improve his life, as they don't know Chris well enough to know it's nigh impossible to get him to improve using the "soft touch". So when the label "white knight" gets thrown around, take it with a grain of salt.

A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being a lolcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance, or even beyond help. Opinion on the matter is somewhat divided on whether Chris is capable of improvement, although most agree that if Chris is going to improve, it will not be in any large part due to the efforts of third parties who only interact with him over the Internet.

Some believed that Chris was improving on his own, albeit slowly and in small increments, as seen in his gradual abandonment of his homophobia, which began with him declaring tolerance for lesbians, which he eventually extended to gay men. Others believed that Chris had not tangibly improved and that he has merely moved sideways, rather than forward. Chris showed signs of "improving" from mid-[[2015]], having found [[Impulse Gay Social Club|a new hangout]] where it seemed he was finally making friends and improving his social skills. Moreover, he finally found a way to cash in on his e-fame, delighted his fanbase by resuming the comics ''and'' made his dreams of a Sonichu media empire a reality, albeit probably on a much smaller scale than he once envisaged.

Since Chris's arrest for [[incest]] in [[2021]], many of his white knights abandoned him, and he is now at the mercy of [[A-logs]] and [[weens]].

==Motives==

===Pity/Remorse ===
Following the release of Chris's first [[nudes]] and the [[Chris Chan Update 21 October 2008|video]] in which he reacted to the loss of his [[medallion]]s and [[Blanca]], many people, including trolls, felt sorry for him. They had not expected it to be possible for him to be trolled so hard or for him to appear so shattered.

===Empathy===
The internet is full of [[autistic]] people, manchildren, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his [[obesity]], his all-consuming need for female companionship, or his fervent belief that his homemade comics matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.

===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===
{{see also|Chris and manipulation}}
Chris fails to identify people, a possible sign of {{w|Prosopagnosia}}. [[BlueSpike|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't recognize that they were the same person. [[Emily]] played numerous real-life characters, and yet Chris fell for every one of them. Pictures of different women were used to depict Blanca, and yet Chris thought they were the same person. Chris believed that pictures of {{w|Megan Fox}} were of [[Vanessa Hudgens]].<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 9|Vanessa AIM Chat IX]]</ref> In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself.<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] – [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Since he's never "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation regarding why he denies being overweight.

Chris' autism also means that he thinks, and sees the world, in simplistic, binary terms; he cannot easily "read between the lines" or detect sarcasm, or practically any kind of nuance or subtlety. He interprets ''[[Family Guy]]'' as actually being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances at [[the GAMe PLACe]] exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>Anecdote by [[Mimms]].</ref> It is also thought that his decision to go [[tomgirl]] was at least partially due to him taking advice to "get in touch with his feminine side" literally.

===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, BlueSpike's sadistic abuse of his control over Chris [[BLUESPIKE#Encyclopedia_Dramatica_Troll_War|outraged even trolls]]. The [[JULAAAY|less sophisticated]] bulk of the trolling was the work of A-Logs and weens, who are frowned upon even by trolls, and rightfully so. And, of course, who ''really'' has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?

===Attention Whores===
Some of these white-knights, the aforementioned anti-trolls, desperately seek attention from the community that surrounds Chris, sometimes faking their protecting of Chris. A lot like [[enablers]], these people cannot contribute anything to society and therefore will never get a Wikipedia page of their own, so the CWCki or Geno's Documentary series is the next best alternative. White Knights with attention on their mind often pretend that they are protecting Chris for noble purposes, when in actuality are trying to gain confirmation from the community through morally questionable techniques.

==Arguments against white knighting==

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===Chris is beyond your ability to help at this point===
The trolls that allegedly wanted to teach Chris some unpleasant truths about life, along with previous White Knights who wanted to shield Chris from criticism while genuinely wanting to prepare him for the real world, have consistently come to the conclusion that Chris is simply incorrigible – nothing helpful that anyone says or does has actually stuck with Chris in a long-term capacity, while he is more than willing to pick up more harmful habits. Even [[Null]], the closest person who Chris had to a friend since the trolling began, and was the only advisor that Chris would actually listen to, came to the conclusion that Chris not only refuses to learn anything if it even slightly inconveniences him, but that he is actively malicious and will ignore you or betray your trust if it benefits him. Even medical professionals are believed to have a hard time helping Chris, particularly when considering that Chris was just as delusional after [[Chris and mental healthcare|three months of time]] in a [[Western State Hospital|psychiatric hospital]] as he was going in. While Chris is a victim of circumstance, he can only get help if he actually seeks it, and that feels like extremely wishful thinking at this point.

===White-Knighting Chris now takes on a completely different connotation===
An unfortunate shift in the character of Chris's Internet adversaries has developed in the [[Idea Guys]]' wake. Having caused Chris to believe himself [[Polyamorous marriage|married]] and a [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|a goddess]], traditional methods of reaching to Chris, as pretending to be a [[boyfriend-free girl]], have become obsolete. And in recent times, there have been an overwhelming number of people who are confident that playing make-believe with Chris will either help him in the long run, or will turn them into trolling legends. Because of this newfound confidence built by playing make-believe with Chris, it has been abused several times, and likewise became the means of weeding them out, regardless of their intentions. White-Knighting as a whole has taken a much more negative connotation in the Chris Chan community than it ever has before.

===Protecting Chris from specific trolls does not automatically make you a "hero" in the Chris Chan saga===

It goes without saying, but just because you divert trolls away from Chris, doesn't exclude you from being a subject of critique, as you have involved yourself in the drama in the first place. No matter the intention, interacting with Chris has always been discouraged by the community surrounding him. Chris's story doesn't really have heroes in it, anyways – it can basically be described as a sad tale of villains, victims, victims who become villains, villains who become victims, and those who watch the whole sorry story play out.

===The stresses of white-knighting===
In order to get close to Chris, white knights have to spend at least as much time and effort as trolls to keep up-to-date on his activities. Most have to lie and pretend to be a goddess of another dimension, or a random [[OC]], to even capture his attention. This, combined with Chris's habit of pushing away anyone who tries to connect with him, is enough to make any sane non-psychologist crash into slumber. A key example of this is the [[enabler]] [[MKRNightVee|MKR]], who frequently came into conflicts with [[Jacob Sockness]] and his other enabling ilk while trying to warn Chris of the danger of letting Sockness get close – though for narcissistic reasons, as to some extent MKR simply wanted to keep Chris to herself. Regardless of whether they're white knighting for their own gain, or out of some misguided effort to help Chris, White knights will find themselves experiencing unprecedented levels of [[stress]]; this is one of the reasons why many simply give up.

===Chris will not even read your message===
Trolls had control over his e-mails. Messages sent to him by white knights were often deleted before he could read them. Even back in the days of the [[Mailbag]], any emails submitted to it, if they even got published, would've been [[Mailbag 29|given one-word replies and ignored]].

===Chris won't ever learn his lesson, no matter what you tell him===
Due in no small part to the fact that Chris had been mollycoddled by [[Borb|his parents]] from the very beginning and had his hand held through school by [[Manchester High Leaks|teachers who were sympathetic to a fault]], he is flat out resistant to any harsh truths pointing out his countless shortcomings and the objective fact that the general public by and large isn't going to absolve him of responsibility for his antics.

He ''will not'' take a moment to reflect on his actions (let alone use memories of these experiences to avoid repeating the same mistakes ever again) because he is thoroughly convinced that [[Kick the Autistic|he is a righteous victim of an unfair society that horribly mistreats autistics]], thus anyone who goes against his ideals (i.e. denies him what he feels entitled to have) is an irredeemable villain in his eyes. As such, he won't accept any words that don't match what he believes in and/or wants to hear, so even simply trying to be nice and reasoning with Chris won't convince him you're not a dang dirty troll.

Even ignoring the numerous altercations Chris got into during his [[Love Quest]] (resulting in portraying authorities doing their jobs as [[Jerkop|one-dimensional]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|villains]] for him and his league of OCs to triumph over) and the brutally honest tongue-lashing he received during the [[Father Call]], a particularly notable example of a white knight unable to make Chris wake up and smell the coffee was none other than [[Vivian Gee]]. [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|After '''three hours''' of trying to do just that]], she eventually gave up, understandably equating the experience with "fighting a wall".

Supposing that Chris ''does'' consider you to be trustworthy, that still doesn't necessarily mean he will benefit from your attempts to help him. A good example would be [[Rocky Shoemaker]], who he considered to be better than a much-needed therapist yet consistently failed to follow just about ''every'' word of advice she gave him, her best efforts to prevent trolling schemes notwithstanding. Going back even further, Chris fondly remembered [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]] being his favorite middle school teacher, proclaiming her to be "the most influential person of (his) life"<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Nostalgic_for_middle_school_teacher</ref> who taught him "better social skills", how to deal with bullies and so forth<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Gal-Pals_and_Past_Sweethearts_(CWCipedia_page)</ref>. He even kept her parting message advising him how to avoid showing others his "weak points" and yet, judging by the fact that '''[[CWCki|this mere wiki]]''' exists, he obviously never took such words to heart.

In short, as long as your words are not 100% in line with his childlike and egocentric point of view, it's utterly futile to try and help Chris.

===Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does===

Tempting as it is to feel sympathetic for Chris ([[Affair With Mother|at least until mid-2021]]), doing so would only benefit him for all the wrong reasons. Chris's youth wasn't one without acts of kindness from others, albeit mainly people who were [[Manchester High|well-meaning yet misguided]] at best or [[Barbara Chandler|flat-out spoiled him at worst]]. As a result of others generally opting to shield Chris from even the slightest negativity ([[Virginia Jeanine Sanford|with a few attempts at genuine advice going in one ear and out the other]]), he has grown accustomed to receiving, or expecting to receive, nothing but complete satisfaction with no strings attached from anyone who gives him the time of day.

Not only has it led to Chris's tendency to become hostile to anyone trying to show him the error of his ways (and of course doesn't give him everything he wants), but it has also allowed opportunities for [[enablers]] to entertain his bizarre delusions, only making him worse than he was before his online infamy. To make matters worse, it has even effectively created a paradox where benefitting Chris prevents him from getting what would ''actually'' benefit him (i.e. [[Chris and mental healthcare|therapeutic aid he needs but refuses]]), so even the best of intentions will ultimately yield no positive results whatsoever.

==Examples==
{{main|White knight emails}}

===White Knights on YouTube===

Among the most notable of Chris's white knights was a [[YouTube]] counter-troll who claimed to be a 21 year-old Russian model named Svenka. Via her YouTube account, [http://www.youtube.com/user/hottiee96 hottiee96], she released an inordinate number of screencaps from troll conversations on [[Sonichu IRC]], including private conversations between Chris and Panda. She also released an image of the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] who would later steal Chris's first date, [[Emily]]. Were Chris less thick-skulled and even slightly willing to accept irrefutable evidence, Svenka may have made somewhat of a negative impact on the organized trolling effort against Chris, but ultimately she was ineffectual. Svenka also had a unhealthy obsession with the [[CWCville Library]]'s original curator, Arjen Van Dierten.

On 6 [[May 2009]], YouTube user xThexPinchx/NorthxStar7/ThePinchisDaBomb tried to blackmail major trolls, claiming to have information on them. He was easily called on his bluff by someone who had not trolled Chris at all.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/softerthanhardware YouTube]</ref> The Pinch has also threatened [[BlueSpike]] saying he has information from his friends, forgetting the fact that BlueSpike ''has no friends''.

===White Knights on Facebook===

In recent times (since 2012), Chris has taken to using Facebook as his main means of expressing himself. Inevitably, this has not only attracted the attention of trolls, but, in 2013, a slew of White Knights as well, in particular, a [[William Elliott Waterman]], who taunted the trolls to come after him instead of Chris ('''Spoiler:''' Nobody did, because nobody actually cared what he had to say). Anna and [[Kim]] are two of the most notable ones on his friends list, both of whom try to offer constructive advice whenever Chris nosedives into a rant...when they're not busy kissing his ass, especially in the case of Anna.

However, as we've come to expect of Chris, anybody who tells him something he doesn't want to hear are people that needed to be brushed off until they stop saying those mean, awful things to him. A good case in point is his [[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris_Expresses_His_Outrage_for_Walmart|anger-laced tirade in September 2013, when he got thrown out of Walmart and started calling names]]. The white knights typically chimed in with their support...''until'' he revealed that he [[Chris and the law|vandalized]] an Xbox One display in the store. Several of them then told Chris that this was not right of him to do, and that the manager had every right to throw him out. His response to that?

{{quote|They do not.
And if they do, they are most in the wrong, [[Chris and reality|because they are most abusive and overzealous of their "authoritative power" that never has existed ever]].|– Chris's response to Chris Rhodes}}

===TV Tropes===
The TV Tropes [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu article on ''Sonichu''] used to have a white knight message as the first text of the article, with a link back to this very page. It was eventually removed due to TV Tropes' website policy changing later on – in other words, said message would no longer be allowed on the website. The message is reproduced below:

{{quote|Hey Chris! If you're reading this: you seriously need to get help from [[Chris and mental healthcare|licensed professionals]], [[October 28 2011|before]] [[26 December 2014|the stuff]] [[Chris and sex#Incest|you do]] [[Jail Saga|gets you thrown in prison or forcibly committed]]. And we're sorry, but you have no real fans – [[True and Loyal Fanbase|the people you think are your fans]] are really either [[trolls]] or laughing at you behind your back. Every. Last. One. Please listen to us – for once.|– Concerned tropers.}}

Unfortunately, the editor in question fails to realize that their message, while well intentioned, will do absolutely nothing and Chris will simply ignore it even if he does [[Mailbag 52|fully read and input it for better development. Thank you for your time.]]

In another move that was appeared to be White Knight-ish to onlookers, the page was also locked in order to prevent [[Weening|Weens]] and [[A-Logging|A-Logs]] from derailing a page about [[Sonichu (comic)|Chris's stupid webcomic]] to instead flood it with a trope list covering his entire life, with entries on Chris and the effort to troll him taking up about two-thirds of the page as a result of overzealous editors piling on an easy target instead of talking about the comic itself. However, the mods took action not out of a desire to protect Chris, but because troping a creator in such a fashion was strictly prohibited, and [[CWCki|going into Chris's life in such detail]] constituted an [[Honest Content|invasion of privacy]] that was in direct violation of the site's rules. The subsequent cleanup led to several ''Sonichu''-related pages being locked, with the main page covering the work getting a milquetoast and somewhat insincere message explaining that the article was being locked over excessive negativity, rather than the page flagrantly being warped by its editors to serve a different purpose than what the site was actually made for. Some ''Sonichu'' pages were eventually unlocked and the message was eventually removed, with the goal of actually providing examples of tropes in ''Sonichu'' being realized. Following the [[Affair with Mother|incest]] reveal, the pages were locked once more, and all discussion of Chris's personal life was prohibited on the threat of suspension.<ref>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13327578050A72722200&page=269#comment-6710</ref>

A recreation of what that page looked like before being overhauled by the mods of TV Tropes can be seen [[User:Canine/TV_Tropes|here]].

==Chris as a White Knight==
In 2017, Chris himself began (attempting) to white knight the crew of [[Planet Dolan]], particularly [[DoopieDoOver]], after he misinterpreted one of Doopie's tweets about being tired of harassment from Chris himself as referring to [[trolls]] harassing her. To this end, he started the #[[HarassCWCdirectly]] campaign in which he exhorted the supposed trolls to take aim at him and leave Doopie and friends alone. This may well be a misguided effort to [[Love Quest|win Doopie's affections]] after she emphasized that she considers him nothing more than a customer, not even a [[Gal pal|friend]].

He also bizarrely white knighted ''himself'' in [[May 2020]] while [[Spirit possession|LARPing]] as [[Pokémon#Mewtwo|Mewtwo]], [[Polyamorous marriage|his second husband]].<ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Anti-Protoman sperging]]</ref> Note that he did so as a brief interruption of his marathon session of LARPing as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]].

==See also==
* [[A-Logging]]
* [[Enablers]]
* [[Weening]]
* [[White knight E-mails]]
* [[Jacob Sockness]] – An infamous white knight of Chris' that claims he wants to get in his pants.

==References==
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==External links==
* [https://encyclopediadramatica.online/index.php/White_Knighting White Knighting] article at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].

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Magical thinking

2024-01-28T21:18:44Z

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{{quote|The spirit of Patti will have his soul for dinner tonight! She will be haunting your nightmares, Mr. Leary.|Chris, [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke]]}}

{{quote|I also believe in psychic powers, have been developing some for myself with binaural beats. I am Literally Bending Paper with my mind waves, and I can only get better with daily practice. I would use my powers for good, including the possibility of levitating myself to Fly.|Chris, [[Doopie E-mails#Hey, Danielle|Doopie emails]]}}

[[File:Warlock.png|thumb|200px|Chris getting in touch with his magical side.]]

'''{{w|Magical thinking}}''' is the belief that one’s own thoughts and rituals can influence [[reality]]. The behavior is common with young children in the egocentric stage of development until they age out of it after developing cognitive thinking. [[Chris]], on the other hand, maintained a habit of magical thinking well into adulthood.

==Examples==
===Curses===
While Chris has used the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] in reality, he never took it too seriously, at least until he used it on [[Liquid Chris]] in a video. With the "kidnapping" of Liquid, he then realized that he had "the power" really to curse people. He also developed a new ability to bless people via the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|Forgiveness Blessings]] skill. He honestly seems to believe that these powers are real, even stating in one video that if it works, then he knows he has "the power." Chris later stated in a music video that if people antagonize him, they will be cursed, but if you're TRUE and HONEST, you will receive blessings.

The most notorious example is the curse-ye-ha-me-ha, a power that supposedly bestows terrible fortune upon the recipient. Chris has performed this curse on innumerable occasions, both over the Internet and in public. He has even retracted the curse ([[Chris and remorse|albeit reluctantly]]) on at least three occasions<ref>[[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction]]</ref><ref>[[One Blessing, and One Curse]]</ref><ref>[[I am Alive]]</ref> with a "Forgiveness Blessing" which further cements Chris's belief in its efficacy.

===Healing Powers ===
[[File:Chris Healing.png|thumb|200px|Chris demonstrating his healing powers to a bewildered Art M. in a strange [[:File:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|unintentional homage to another famous photo]].]]

One of the earliest examples of Chris' magical delusions are the powers of healing. In 2013, he made a post claiming that My Little Pony taught that friendship could provide both magic AND healing.<ref>[[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking]]</ref> In 2018, he would begin to obsess over [[Magic_stones|magical pebbles]] with purported healing properties due to interference from the [[Idea_Guys|Idea Guys.]] From mid 2019, Chris would start to believe that he was being possessed by [[Magi-Chan]] and as of such could perform many of Magi-Chan's magical powers, with one such ability of his being the ability to heal others. He would use his healing '''touch''' on Barb, and demonstrated his ability on Art M. (TheGamerFromMars) in December of that year.

Chris' obsession with healing seemed to grow more and more over the years, to the point where he believed he could use his healing abilities regardless of whether he was "possessed" or not, no doubt contributing to his [[Messiah_complex|messiah complex]]. In 2020, Chris - whilst roleplaying as Sonichu - claimed that praying to Chris would cure others of illness and disease, and in 2021 Chris frequently mentioned the phrase "self-healing" either as a prayer or to describe his own mental state. Whilst the term "self-healing" is never properly defined by Chris, it's likely meant to just be emotional recovery with a superstitious tinge.

Unfortunately, due to [[Affair_with_Mother|recent events,]] the term has adopted a more [[CWC-isms#heal|sinister meaning.]]

===Voodooism===
[[File:Sept13 Imgur 31.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Lego]] voodoo dolls of [[Megan Schroeder]], [[Michael Snyder]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh]], whom Chris blames for his life problems.]]

In Chris's case, he seems to believe that his tirades and tantrums will somehow affect his perceived enemies. His attacks on the [[Clown Doll]], for instance, are a metaphorical threat, but also suggest an attempt at somehow literally harming the trolls through [[Wikipedia:sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]], like a voodoo doll. He views his revenge against his enemies in the comic or in ''[[Soul Calibur|Soul Calibur III]]'' as being equivalent to actual revenge, rather than simply venting.

In [[September 2013]], Chris created voodoo dolls out of [[Lego]] to represent [[Megan Schroeder]], [[Michael Snyder]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh]], people who refused to cave into Chris's demands, earning them the title of "The Top Three Fiends and Enemies of [Chris's] lifetime". He derived satisfaction from tormenting the dolls by shaking them in a container and leaving them upside down.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref>

[[File:Legotrumppence.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris hangs Lego effigies of [[Pmurt]] and Pence.]]
Chris again used voodooism as part of his tantrum over [[Pmurt]] becoming president. Upon learning of the election results, he [[Eid, Pmurt, Eid!!!|kicked a Transformers toy meant to represent President-elect Trump]]. Following this, he created effigies of Trump and Vice Presidential pick Mike Pence out of Lego and hanged them.

===Spirit realm===

The world of [[CWCville]] is also a spirit realm, where Chris is almighty and can create and shape it as he pleases due to his power of "creativity". It exists outside, but parallel, to the real world, and sometimes Chris seems to honestly believe that it's a real place, even if it's just imaginary. The idea of this spirit realm became more valid when, in a [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|video]], Chris claimed that the soul of his [[Patti Chandler|dead dog]] (now [[Patti-Chan|living in CWCville]]) would devour Alec Benson Leary's soul and haunt his [[dreams]].

===Sorcery===
[[Image:thoushaltnotsufferacwctolive.JPG|thumb|left||Thou shalt not suffer a CWC to live.]]
Through Chris's perception of [[God]] as an instrument of his will comes the delusion that he has magical powers that will permit him to eventually succeed over the enemies that he is unable to dispatch by any more conventional means.

Chris's sorcery was among his more egregious behaviors that were not merely atypical of a Christian, but in fact explicitly proscribed by his faith. [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=galatians%205:19-20&version=KJV Galatians 5:19-20] lists witchcraft as one of the more blatant acts of sin, and [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+22%3A18&version=KJV Exodus 22:18] commands "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live". That's right, there's a Biblical mandate for Chris's death. Alec Benson Leary, in one of his [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|phone calls]] with Chris, attempted to point out the thoroughly un-Christian nature of Chris's dabbling in black magic, but his reasoning appeared to have little effect. Of course, his magical practices have only become even more blatant since proclaiming himself a CPU goddess, including threatening trolls on social media with supernatural retribution, meted out by himself.

===Dimensional Merge===

{{Template:Main|Dimensional Merge}}

The dimensional merge is Chris's grandest and most convoluted magical thinking to date. The [[Idea Guys]] created the concept and brainwashed Chris into believing it, and he has since made it a major part of his day-to-day life. Chris ''actually believes'' he is a goddess who has the ability to merge this dimension ([[Dimensions#1218|1218]]) with alternate dimensions home to every fictional character created- including his very own [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]].

For Chris, getting to see Sonichu in real life is probably enough to warrant a fantasy of this caliber, though his motivation for the merge is deeply rooted in personal (and very real) failures. From his [[Financhu Crisis|financial woes]] to his lack of a significant other, Chris plans for the dimensional merge to fix his life: not only will all Chris's funds from CWCville be transferred to him, his [[polyamorous marriage]] to four Pokémon will be official. If Chris has a problem, you can bet the merge has a solution for it.

===Necromancy===

Chris also appears to believe that he can, to an extent, [[Sarah May Skype Logs|talk to the deceased]]. He told [[Sarah May]] that when he touched his dead [[Aunt Corrina]]'s hand, he could hear her spirit, along with the spirits of his grandparents and great-grandparents. He also claimed that [[GodJesus]] told him to "make the trip and go to Julie". Additionally, Chris believes that he can harness the spirits of the dead to do his bidding, notably when he threatened [[Megan]] with revenge by him and his [[Bob Chandler|father]]'s ghost, and when he warned [[Alec Benson Leary]] that [[Patti Chandler|his dead dog]] would [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|have his soul for dinner and haunt his nightmares]]. During his time masquerading as [[JenkinsJinkies]] on [[Trollin Train]], Chris hoped to dissuade trolls by claiming that his house was haunted, describing [[Trollin_Train#Hey.2C_the_Equipment_and_the_Digging_.28Thu_26_Aug_2010_5:12_AM.29|an alleged encounter]] with the vengeful ghosts of Patti and [[Christopher's name change|his younger self]]. Chris apparently believed that trolls would heed this threat.

On 22 March 2021, he discussed with an unknown Watchmen member about fantasizing talking with the ghost of Claire Hough, a teenage girl who was murdered on a beach.<ref>[[The Place chats - Psychic Detective‎‎]]</ref>

===Other===

{{quote|1) "Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha" - Placing Bad Luck and Extreme Misfortune on all of those who give me grief or hate. 2) "Forgiveness Blessing" - Cures all ailments of virus or physical qualities. 3) "Hono" - Makes Gays, regardless of gender, become Straight; NEVER to be gay EVER Again. 4) "Peaceful Teaching" - Quells all disputes and disagreements within a 1000 mile radius, and turns all weaponry into dust. 5) "Come to me, my Women" - Locates and attracts 18 to 30-year old single women within a 5-mile radius.|Chris's terrifyingly insane list of "spells", [[Mailbag 23#Chris and the dark arts|Mailbag 23]]}}

[[Image:ChrisFacebookCommentOnPsychicPowers.png|thumb|left|Chris believes he has psychic powers that can inflict harm on his enemies.]]

[[File:Itcameforcwc.jpg|thumb|right|What Chris thinks his curses are capable of.]]

He also thinks that he has the power to [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L|brainwash people into following his commands]], among other latent powers that he may discover when the opportunity presents itself.<ref>[[Mailbag 20#Chris still thinks he can actually curse people]]</ref> All of this magic is supposedly powered by his preferred personal relic du jour - either the [[medallion]] or the [[Amnyfest Ring]]. How these items came to be imbued with magical properties has not been addressed.

{{quote|I pray the soul of my father gives you all nightmares|Chris on using the spirits of the dead<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>}}

Since 2016, Chris has watched a myriad of [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos on [[YouTube]], and believes that the marketed effects of the binaural beats he listens to will actually occur. These videos promise bizarre results, such as [[Love quest|attracting love]], becoming a [[Tomgirl|hermaphrodite]], and learning [[Magi-chan|telekinesis]].

Throughout the mid-2010s, Chris added several concepts from New Age spirituality to his shamanism, including astral projection and the third eye (using them as methods to visit his [[imaginary friends]]). He also took an interest in mystical rocks - such as healing crystals - keeping a pouch full of them around his neck, even though it caused him neck pain<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-has-arrived-at-bronycon-2019-megathread.59139/post-5107905</ref>.

More recently, as stated in [[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Reacting to MLP G5 toys at the store|a Discord message]], Chris now appears to believe that he can snap objects out of existence, claiming that he had apparently phased out multiple ''[[My Little Pony]]'' toys in a [[Wal-Mart]] and Target from reality.

In a social media post from [[January 2024]], Chris was asked why he couldn't just "will the extra episodes of [[My Little Pony| MLP G4]] into existence", he simply replied that "It takes time"<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/January_2024_social_media_posts#Extra_Episodes_of_MLP_G4</ref>. Given that Chris is not above trying to talk his way out of questions or situations that bother him, even at the expense of consistency, this hand-wave should be taken with a grain of salt.

==Psychological analysis==
[[Image:PSYCHO_CHRIS.png|thumb|left|[[26 December 2014|"Don't Codec anybody!"]]]]

When asked by a fan how he came to learn of his powers, Chris replied they were evidenced by Mary Lee Walsh's reputation going "DOWN":

{{quote|I have learned about the Curses actually working firstly when I cursed the real-life Mary Lee Walsh; then I later heard that her reputation at PVCC went DOWN (yes, mostly due to my references in the pages), but then things got worse for her, and even though I forgave her for her misdeed on interrupting my [[Love Quest|Sweetheart Search]], I feel she definitely got what she deserved for her misdeed. Later, I cursed one specific Troll (I forget who); shortly later, I learn that troll came down with a [[Wikipedia:Common Cold|life-threatening ailment.]]|Chris, [[Mailbag 18#In which Chris believes he has magic powers (srsly)|Mailbag 18]]}}

This is textbook magical thinking. This gives Chris a belief of some degree of power over his own life, no matter how illusory. This use of [[Wikipedia:Fantasy (psychology)|fantasy]] is considered by the psychological community to be an immature defense mechanism.

==References==
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{{Fantasies}}

Chris and business

2023-11-12T21:17:41Z

FurryChristorian789:

{{Dated|how the [[Jail Saga]] will affect Chris's business ventures}}
{{quote|That is not my fault the frame got broke in transaction, the envelope was clearly marked “Fragile” and “Handle With Care”, and it was shipped well in a bubble envelope. Either you, being Trollish, or the Postal Carriers are to blame for the frame’s arriving condition.|An example of Chris's customer service skills<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20220516025146/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1017880748009967618</ref>}}

[[File:Update 1 17 2016 (720p).mp400001.png|thumb|Chris pictured at his "[[Work Room]]" in January 2016]]

Chris launched an online '''business''' in [[June 2014]], selling custom arts and crafts through eBay. A year later, he moved shop to Etsy, under a brand titled "Cwcville Shopping". He also began selling printed copies of Sonichu on Lulu. He held a steady stream of customers, despite issues with production and sending orders on time. For a while, he had achieved his dream of selling his own Sonichu merchandise, and was making plenty of [[Chris and money|money]].

However, exactly two years and one week after the start of his business, on 8 [[June 2016]], Chris's infamous laziness caught up to him, and he was banned from Etsy for ignoring orders over a span of months beginning from when he bought a [[PS4]]. He did not take responsibility for the self-inflicted failure of his business. Instead, he lied to save face and cast blame on Lulu.com's staff for having stressed him out by labeling Sonichu as fan fiction and banning his account half a year beforehand in December 2016 (even though he had actually ban-evaded by opening a private account and was back to offering books through Lulu's services only weeks later).

After the Etsy ban, Chris fell back on [[Financhu Crisis|begging]] and Paid Video Requests to cover [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]'s credit card bills and his expensive toy purchases. In May 2017, he felt like returning to work on the Sonichu comic and, throughout the next several months, began to rebuild his business, using Patreon, Lulu and Redbubble, and accepting interviews for money.

==List of ventures by type==
===Storefronts===
{{main|eBay|Etsy}}
On 1 June 2014, Chris began cashing in on his Internet infamy, by offering custom artwork for sale. He later expanded his sales to include autographed photos, medallions, custom Amiibos, and personal items related to Christory. This would be his most profitable and otherwise his most important commercial endeavour. Over the years, he would earn thousands of dollars by selling off Sonichu-themed memorabilia and sundries;<ref>Sales listings ([[2014-2015 Sales Listings|to 2015]], [[2016 Sales Listings|2016]], [[2017 Sales Listings|2017]], [[2018 Sales Listings|2018]], [[2019 Sales Listings|2019]])</ref> the largest financial contributions were often made by aspiring [[weens]] to establish contact with Chris and put themselves in a friendly position.<ref>[[Aly Hirschberg]]</ref><ref>[[Teen Troon Squad]]</ref><ref>[[Jacob Sockness]]</ref> He would not always fulfil his orders, however, and after receiving an abysmal 85% satisfaction rating through customer reviews, his merchant account was [[eBay#Suspension of Chris's eBay|suspended]] on 16 [[June 2019]]. Proposals to circumvent the ban through a partnership with [[Jacob Sockness]] were never implemented.

On 2 [[September 2015]], Chris expanded his online business to Etsy. He continued the same offerings from eBay and added a donation listing for the continuation of the Sonichu series. Days later, on 5 September, a YouTuber named [[DStecks]] donated $1,000, thinking that Chris would deliver 100 pages of Sonichu. Instead, Chris completed 16 pages before dropping the project. This move remains controversial with Christorians, as while some believe that he honestly wanted [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] to continue, others argue that this [[ween|weenish]] move validated begging in Chris's eyes, as seen with the influx of begging videos in the [[Financhu Crisis]]. In addition to DStecks, dozens of fans had also donated. Chris simply claimed that he was too stressed to continue ''Sonichu'' #11<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism]]</ref>.

However, Chris still had a passion for making custom [[Amiibo]]s for several months afterwards; he took it seriously enough that he was willing to [[Ohio trip|drive hundreds of miles]] through Virginia just to buy parts for Amiibos to sell on Etsy.<ref>[[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]]</ref> He wasted hundreds of dollars buying up Amiibos on eBay, thinking that the market for his custom figures would sustain itself indefinitely. This was not the case. and Chris eventually grew apathetic and bored with earning his own money. To complicate things further, Chris purchased a [[PS4]] in [[March 2016]]. The new life upgrade proved too distracting, and he ignored Etsy orders, often for months. Ultimately, Etsy took notice and banned his store from doing business.

===Self-publishing===
{{main|Lulu|Redbubble}}

Chris took over a decade to try any self-publishing channels. [[Clyde Cash]] beat him to the punch by posting Chris's comics on Lulu.com. Chris simply retorted by encouraging his [[fans]] not to buy them, and to simply wait for him to release the "real" versions later. According to [[Jackie e-mails Part 2|emails from 2010]], Chris claimed that he was working on fixing up his pages to be published on Lulu, taking an unreasonable amount of time to accomplish this amazingly simple task, and he eventually dropped the project. Undaunted, Chris began selling printed copies of the Sonichu comic on Lulu.com in September 2015,<ref>[[September 2015 Facebook Posts#Now Chris is on Lulu]]</ref> as well as offering autographed versions through Etsy (by ordering the comics from Lulu, signing them, then shipping to the buyers).

In December 2015, Chris was banned from Lulu for selling [[Sonichu (comic)|fan fiction]].<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Lulu Account Suspended]]</ref> In true Chris fashion, he responded by threatening Lulu's executives with physical violence,<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Threatening Lulu's Executives]]</ref> despite the fact that he was on probation for [[26 December 2014|an act of violence]] against a GameStop employee. Chris was able to continue selling comics in January 2016,<ref>https://archive.md/p0WVk</ref> probably rejoining Lulu under an alternate account. He was discovered within a few months, and again his account was shut down.

Deprived of other reliable avenues, Chris has torpidly sought other ways to sell his own works. He opened a shop on Redbubble, an online shopping company where users can sell custom-printed items based on images of the seller's choice, on 3 [[October 2017]], selling pictures of himself pre-[[Tomgirl]] and drawings of himself on framed pictures, pillows, and miniskirts, among others. Much later, on 23 [[November 2019]], the spiritual successor to Chris's Etsy opened as a new Web site of the same name: [[Cwcvilleshopping.com]]. Here, Chris would offer his [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|handmade trading cards]] for a ''[[My Little Pony]]''-themed game at extreme prices.

===Commissioning===
{{main|Paid Video Requests|Patreon}}
In December 2015, [[$50 for a video holiday greeting!|'''the singularity''']] happened. On Etsy, Chris offered to create a personalized video message for anyone who paid $50. Many of his fans took him up on the offer, thinking they could become [[Weening|a part of Christory]] by simply handing their money over to him. He received four sales within the first three days,<ref>[[:File:Etsy unlisted videos.jpg]]</ref> although those customers opted for their videos to be unlisted. A few people also chose public videos for their birthday shoutouts.<ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Jonathan]]</ref> After losing his Etsy shop, Chris continued offering video requests through text messages.<ref>[[Update 20160718]]</ref>

The videos Chris delivers are characterized by:

*Laziness. He has often been late on delivering, missing deadlines for birthday greetings, despite having an abundance of free time.<ref>[[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref>

*Sloppiness. Chris chooses not to edit his takes or look presentable. He has delivered a video featuring an upskirt shot of his maxipad.<ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Singing "Yellow Submarine"]]</ref>

*Explicitly stating that the content is boring. In many videos, Chris has mentioned his low opinion of his customers, saying things like "Eh, whatever" and "Wow, that's crazy, that's jus'... I feel like... it's weird. Whatever", while rolling his eyes.<ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Copypasta: Sexual Helicopter]]</ref><ref>[[Paid Video Requests#Copypasta: Gorilla Warfare]]</ref>

*Filling up paid content time with drivel or off-topic rambling,<ref>[[September 2016 Paid Video Requests#Paid Message to the Trolls]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref> despite the fact that his videos are advertised as "around a minute in length, on average, but can be longer in time length".<ref>[[Etsy#Custom, Birthday, Holiday, or General, Greeting Video featuring Christine Weston Chandler]]</ref>

In spite of these issues, he has a continuing stream of customers. A Kiwi Farms user named Vanillacone, summed up the mindset of the lot with his review of [[Happy Birthday, Jonathan|the $50 paid video he ordered from Chris]] (which consisted of him being late, babbling to fill up time, failing to spell the recipient's name correctly and delivering a video 39 seconds long out of the minimum one minute):

{{quotebox|To be honest, I got what I expected out of the video, and money well spent in my opinion.}}

Chris joined Patreon on 30 November 2016 as a response to pressure from the [[Financhu Crisis]]. He initially set it up to beg for money, claiming that he would produce more Sonichu comics if his fans paid off his mortgage and bills – he was met with low support levels, generally below $40 per month. This suddenly changed around [[June 2017]]. Picking up momentum from resuming the Sonichu comic of his own volition in May, he revamped his Patreon to offer more reasonable support tiers for fans. He has enjoyed a significant uptick in support due to his continued work on the comic, earning around $500-600 per month. As his interest in his own comic has abated, and new pages more rarely released, patron support has shrivelled to about a third of its peak. Reforming his backer awards by distinguishing different ''[[Chris and English|teirs]]'' for every dollar level given have not improved his steady decline in support.

===Miscellaneous affairs===
{{main|Sonichu Entertainment of America}}
In [[May 2016]], Chris displayed a level of financial ignorance that shatters any hope of him ever becoming competent with money. Days after [[Please, Donate|begging for donations]] to assist his ailing household, he announced that he would be starting [[Sonichu Entertainment of America|his own business]], with the declaration that each employee's salary would be ''25% of the profit.'' Naturally, Chris completely fails to realize that under these conditions, he would have no money at all if he had four or more employees. However, that's just the tip of the iceberg; days later, he uploaded [[Proposition to Sega|a video]] attempting to go into business with Sega to create official Sonichu products. In the video, he demands a six-figure salary, along with [[Chris and health|full insurance benefits]] and [[Chris and reality|maternity leave]]. These incidents seem to indicate Chris's belief that money comes out of nowhere and is unlimited in value. Three years later, in [[April 2019]], ''Sonichu Entertainment of America'' was noted by Google Maps, prompting Chris to laud his company as legitimate in a video, though it would see no further activity.

On 24 November 2016, Chris asked his audience to watch a clip of him playing ''Skylanders'', by uploading [[CWC vs Koas]], in order to promote the idea of selling his [[Chris and his Ego#Fixation on self-image|in-game figure]] to them using the game's [https://www.skylanders.com/creator Skylanders Creation app]. He would charge "$20 extra" for his autograph. He also said "I am not sharing my creation app chirp", since this would allow people to order directly from Skylanders and cut off Chris's goal of [[Sonichu Amiibo#Custom Chris Chan Amiibo Complete Three Piece Set (from Original Creator)|profiting from his self-image]].<ref>https://archive.md/fhBJ2</ref> On 12 January 2017, Chris uploaded [[Skylanders Imaginators Leader Christine W Chandler: random Review N' Stuff]] as a half-hour advertisement video, showing off multiple ''Skylanders'' products he had ordered, a $15 card, a $30 T-shirt and a $50 3D-doll, all emblazoned with his avatar image, [[Financhu Crisis|totaling at least $90]].

[[File:Skylanders swag.png|thumb|The ''Skylanders'' raffle prizes, featuring images of Chris's custom game avatar.]]
Chris's largest business failure to date followed soon after. Various ''Skylanders'' avatar products and a Son-Chu figure were announced as prizes for a raffle Chris conceived<ref>[[March 2017 Facebook Posts#Raffle for new merch]]</ref> to push sales of his [[stamps]], slated to run from 27 March through [[Honor roll|31 April]] 2017. The cost of entry was buying one of Bob's stamps or Chris's stamp album on eBay, with a limit of one entry per buyer. Initially, Chris announced that the winner would receive a [[Son-Chu]] figure and a ''Skylanders'' figure, and 15 runners-up would each receive a ''Skylanders'' card. A week later, he added ''more'' prizes to the mix: ''Skylanders'' T-shirts.<ref>[[April 2017 Facebook posts#Another gimmick for stamp sales]]</ref>

[[File:Son-chu package.jpeg|250px|thumb|left]]
Chris seemed to be banking on the $1,000 album selling, as it was the only scenario in which he could have shown a profit from the raffle – he promised an automatic win of a set of all three prizes. His expenditure for the raffle prizes totalled '''$840'''.<ref>He confirmed ordering $750 of Skylanders cards/T-shirts in [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017]]. After the raffle, Chris mentioned [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 05052017|in a video]] that he still needed to order the Skylanders figure and parts to make Son-Chu (estimated at $40).</ref> No one bought the album, and less than 15 people participated in the raffle (although a mass buyer had purchased 18 stamps). He was left with a '''negative profit of $674.24'''.<ref>[[Stamps#Raffle]]</ref>

In [[December 2020]], Chris teamed up with [[Praetor]] to produce more Sonichu [[medallions]]. The medallions are not created by Chris, but he (supposedly) oversees the design and production of the medallions. The medallions are of noticeably worse quality than those created by Chris, but that hasn't stopped the team from selling over 130 medallions as of 14 December 2020. The jointly-owned [[Etsy]] page can be found [https://www.etsy.com/shop/OfficialCWCmart here].

By [[May 2022]], the partnership with Praetor extended to [[Praetor Jail Art|selling monochrome artwork Chris had drawn whilst jailed]]. Naturally, given the [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|newer delusions Chris had begun to machinate shortly after ending up behind bars]], these drawings primarily center around his pseudo-religion.

{{clear}}

===Abortive ventures===
In November 2015, Chris announced that he would be setting up a shop on '''Zazzle.com'''.<ref>[[Thank You, Jeff, and I accept your apology.]]</ref> He mentioned it again half a year later, in June 2016.<ref>[[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation]]</ref> No progress was made, and to this day, Chris has never opened a Zazzle shop. Why he dragged his feet so much is unknown: Zazzle takes care of manufacturing and shipping, and there are no startup costs. All he would have to do is take some Sonichu drawings and upload them.

In [[October 2017]], amid being the subject of '''interviews''' by [[Merryweathery]], [[Documentary|Sachumo]] and [[CopperCab]], Chris announced that he was open to being a guest on more interviews for payment<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_tweets#Accepting_paid_interviews</ref>. Although he didn't specify his going rate, Merryweathery mentioned that Chris had asked him for $200<ref>https://archive.md/r6gWI</ref>. He has since given interviews for free,<ref>[[Pappy Van Poodle Interview]]</ref> taking the bend out of this potential scheme (although it seems that he was paid for [[The Create Unknown]] interview in [[October 2020]]).

==Customers and their reasons for buying==
{{see also|List of Chris's financial enablers}}

{{quote|a piece of valuable Internet culture|A potential buyer on Chris's comics.}}

[[File:Potential customers.png|thumb|200px|Potential customers mull over buying Chris's comics on [[Patreon]].]]

While many who follow Chris refuse to give him money and shun those who do, buyers seem to regard Chris memorabilia as pieces of internet culture that might become valuable over time. A February 2019 video in which a customer unboxed a [[Sonichu 0]] comic printed from [[Lulu]] attracted over 100,000 views, and many commentators expressed a desire to buy for themselves.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5G5U-eLzEg</ref> Ironically, the resulting bump in Chris's Patreon gave him so many orders to fulfill that he crashed into slumber and simply ignored the backlog of orders.

==Ad revenue==

When he was uploading his ''Sonichu'' comic pages to the [[CWCipedia]] in 2009, the thought of monetizing his web comic didn't cross his mind. People had been annoying – nay, ''harassing'' him with advertising he didn't approve of, yet when he attempted to replace these offensive ads with ads of his own, he simply put some random advertisements on his webpage ''without actually signing any sort of advertisement contract'' – the ads didn't make him any money. There are several advertising programs that allow individual people to put ads on their personal pages and make money out of them; some of these programs are even specifically geared toward webcomic artists. Many web comics have a donation box where readers can donate money to the artist via PayPal or similar services.

In 2016, Chris monetized his YouTube channel<ref>[[Chris and money#YouTube monetization]]</ref> and added a Support button<ref>[[Chris and money#YouTube Support button]]</ref> (ostensibly to accept donations for Sonichu projects, even though he didn't want to work on that, and for a year, YouTube simply became another place from which he could beg for money).

It took a while for Chris to try drawing on-camera in [[Live Drawing Streams]], and even then, he hasn't demonstrated it too often and has done an extremely poor job of it. He simply sits in front of his [[PS4]] camera, which is hard-coded to only record in flipped mirror mode, and is positioned so that viewers see an upside-down video set at a dizzying angle.

== Schedule slip ==
Most webcomics have a set schedule: some update weekly, some many times a week, some daily. Some webcomics update whenever the hell the artists get inspired enough to draw a comic, and probably reserve a whole forum for people who whine about lack of updates. Most webcomic artists that update the comic three times a week consider that schedule very demanding, and webcomics that update daily usually generate revenue of some sort (ads, donations, print versions, merchandise, what-have-you), allowing the artists treat their comics like a full-day job. These are called self-sufficient webcomics. (Examples: ''Penny Arcade'', ''xkcd'', ''Questionable Content''.)

Chris has thoroughly embraced the point of view that the comic shouldn't have a set schedule and inspiration doesn't have a deadline... while ''also'' promising us that the comic would be updated daily. On 14 [[November 2009]], Chris promised that the comic would be updated daily, and he managed to fulfill this promise for a while. By the end of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris was already placing author-substitutes in the story telling people to quit whining about the lack of updates. This is obviously not a question of punctuality, but [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrisy]]; Chris would avoid a lot of drama if he just admitted that there's no set schedule whatsoever after all. If one ''does'' consider this a question of punctuality, it doesn't look too good.

Chris also tends to update in spurts in an attempt to make up for missed days; this can range anywhere from three to twenty pages at a time. Most professional web cartoonists have a buffer of guest comics so that they can avoid this sort of thing, but the thought of doing so has apparently never entered Chris's [[Autism|autistic]] mind.

The same mindset also pervades every other aspect of his business, namely that Chris will procrastinate on shipping orders. A key example is how he almost fucked up the [[Sonic Totem]] sale - he received $1,500 for it, immediately wasted much of his profit on [[$400 gold necklace|bling]] and failed to ship it to the buyer on time, saying that he had run out of money to pay for mailing it, and only got around to having his mother scrounge up the cash to do so after the buyer filed a Paypal dispute. He also lost his Etsy shop as a direct result of his poor work ethic.

==Pipe dreams==

{{quote|----When Do You Want [[Nintendo]] and [[SEGA]] to Talk to Me to EVOLVE [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] more Realistically?----
NOW!!!|Chris, [[An Important Update|demanding that multinational corporations take orders from a nobody]]}}

Chris has had numerous aspirations to work in creative industries. So far, he has expressed his desire to make [[Sonichu (game)|several official ''Sonichu'' video games]], and work on a real [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]] for a real comic publisher. However, [[Chris and his Ego|for reasons best known to himself]], he elects not to find out how these industries actually work, which is quite strange; one would assume that a person seeking a career in the industries would at least take ''some'' effort to find out how the said industries work.

=== Official publication ===

In ''[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]'' and [[Chris's resume|Chris's résumé]], it's revealed that Chris is under the impression that his [[Chris and art|art]] isn't just good, but professional quality, and that he aspires to get into the comics and video game business. The résumé reveals his widely varied skills with both pens and crayons and his desire to work as an artist for a professional comic company such as [[Wikipedia:Archie Comics|Archie Comics]] or [[Wikipedia:Marvel Comics|Marvel]], creating his ''Sonichu'' comics. There is no word on whether or not he actually submitted anything to these companies, or if they replied.

Unfortunately for Chris, the publishing industry doesn't work this way, especially not in the case of "original" creations. In the case of original work, the publishers expect complete works to be submitted to them, usually through an agent. An agent's job is to separate the [[Asperchu|wheat]] from the [[Sonichu (comic)|chaff]] and find the correct publisher for the work, taking a small percentage of the eventual profit for their reward. If the publishers take unsolicited submissions, they have to sift through a gigantic backlog (often called "slushpile") of submissions of highly varying quality, most of which end up rejected multiple times before there will be a publisher with the right market in mind and the right publication schedule to allow the publication deal to go forward. The whole process can take years in case of a single work.

If comic book publishers have salaried artists, they usually need to have a portfolio of previous work, usually work that has already been published commercially, or (if the comic house is ''particularly'' lenient, and most big names aren't) there has to be evidence of a successfully self-published, high-quality comic. And even in this case, these artists usually only work on characters and plotlines that come from inside the house; it can take time before the artist is in any position to present their own ideas for comics, or use their own original characters. Even if he ''were'' able to stick in a company for a long time, he'd still need to improve his communication skills a lot. If the ''[[Sonichu Chronicles]]'' PowerPoint and various phone conversations are of any indication, he's unable to persuade his superiors that his ideas are worth working on.

In short, Chris is deluded if he thinks that any company will just pick him up and tell him to work on ''Sonichu'' comics.

Even if Chris does get in, there's also the problem with scheduling. Most comics are worked on far in advance, thus allowing for any changes concerning a book, such as plot problems, character availability changes or even cancellations. Even so, many of them maintain a certain schedule, either monthly or bi-monthly (sometimes quarterly). Very rarely do comics go bi-weekly (one every two weeks), though weekly series have been more common, though infrequent. ([[Wikipedia:DC Comics|DC Comics]], for example, experimented with the weekly format in the [[1980s]] with ''[[Wikipedia:Action Comics#Action Comics Weekly|Action Comics Weekly]]'', an anthology which bombed and put the title on hiatus for a few months, returning it to its normal ''[[Wikipedia:Action Comics|Action Comics]]'' title and monthly format. Twenty years later, DC has churned out a number of weekly series, including ''[[Wikipedia:52 (comics)|52]]'', ''[[wikipedia:Countdown to Final Crisis|Countdown]]'', ''[[Wikipedia:Trinity (comic book)|Trinity]]'' and more recently ''[[wikipedia:The New 52: Future's End|The New 52: Future's End]]''.)

Chris, however, has no schedule. His schedule consists of "whenever he has the inspiration" to work. That doesn't cut it. If Chris went with that alone, he would have a release schedule that would rival [[Wikipedia:Rob Liefeld|Rob Liefeld]] and [[Wikipedia:Valve Time|Valve]]. And where Liefeld, for the most part, could get away with it because he owned his own company at one point (and people have gotten him to actually do the work), if Chris pulled this kind of stunt, he'd be out on the street so fast, his head would spin.

Chris's understanding of [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] is a chapter in itself. Publishers want primarily original works, because securing the necessary rights to publish derivative works is often difficult or impossible. Chris has even resisted attempts to educate him in this regard.<ref>[[Mailbag 29]]</ref>

On 14 August, 2017, Chris uploaded a [[CLog 08142017 - More Positive Content|video]] where he updated the True and Loyal Fanbase on his progress on ''Sonichu'' #13, which he has re-numbered as ''Sonichu'' #12-9. He states that he decided to change the focus of the comic. Instead of being a crossover between the Sonichu gang and the [[Planet Dolan]] crew, it would instead be a fanfiction devoted to his pony avatar, [[Night Star]]. Throughout the video, he mentions how he not only wants the comic to be a piece of fanfiction, [[Chris and reality|but how he also wants it to be canon to ''My Little Pony'', where he himself would voice Night Star]]. Of course, Chris doesn't seem to realize that the creators of the show can't just simply pick up his idea because, as stated earlier, it may lead to an accusation of idea theft.

Yet another reason why the publishing industry wouldn't accept Sonichu in its current state is because of how [[Chris and writing|sloppily written]] and [[Chris and his ego|egocentric it is in tone]]. If a publisher somehow ''did'' agree to make Sonichu comics, they would more likely task other writers (not to mention artists) with actual talents to shape up the premise into something at least passable. Predictably enough, Chris would balk at lacking control over his life's work (and of course, anyone doing better than him).

===Games and merchandise===
Chris could approach [[Sega]] and [[Nintendo]] and ask them to make ''Sonichu'' games, comics and merchandise. This plan would also be doomed to failure, because no media companies want unsolicited ideas from the public. There are several reasons for this.

First, it takes effort to sift through idea piles and they can't give an equal amount of thought on the countless ideas fans send them. While game companies may listen to their fans, they usually just want to know if the time is ripe for something they've been planning to do. (For example, no doubt a big part of the reason why the newer ''[[Wikipedia:Fire Emblem|Fire Emblem]]'' games got worldwide release was that the fans of [[Wikipedia:Marth (Fire Emblem)|Marth]] and [[Wikipedia:List of Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi characters#Roy|Roy]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Super Smash Bros. Melee|Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' were wondering aloud "why the hell isn't [[Nintendo]] releasing these games outside of Japan?") They most certainly don't have the capability of starting a whole new game project just because someone asks. If the game companies respond by saying Chris had, as he himself so [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|eloquently put]], "rocks in his head", then you probably don't get a slice of their precious time for making a second impression. Simply put, Chris thinks that even when the companies aren't busy with other projects, they still have time to think of ''his'' grandiose ideas ''and those things only''.

Second, there is an age-old problem in a litigious society: A fan writes to the company and says "I have this cool idea", the company says "thanks, but no thanks", one of the in-house writers comes up with exactly the same idea by accident, and boom, you have a fan who's suing you for idea theft, and even if that lawsuit will usually go nowhere, it wastes perfectly usable time, energy and most of all ''money'' that could be used for more fruitful ventures. A famous example is British novelist [[Wikipedia:Terry Pratchett|Terry Pratchett]], who used to post in his Usenet fan group until one of the fans was convinced Terry had stolen his ideas.

Therefore, most media houses will just say they will not take any ideas from the public. The game industry is not an exception. This fact has been pointed out to Chris numerous times (and at least twice by real Nintendo representatives, as evidenced by the letters he has read in the Captain's Logs<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 15th, 2008]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009]]</ref>). Unfortunately, Chris misinterpreted all this.

Another thing that Chris disregards is the fact that writing games take a lot of effort. In [[Wikipedia:Thomas Edison|Thomas Edison]]'s words, getting things done is "1% inspiration and 99% perspiration." Many good ideas don't get implemented. No one is going to invest energy in developing an idea alone if they don't know if the idea can be implemented. Game companies may be willing to negotiate a deal to use their properties (such as characters) in games developed by third parties, but those proposals are usually backed up by real companies, actual creative teams of developers, and serious, complete plans for games, if not outright working prototypes already. Even in the case the properties are tacked on the prototype later on, the prototypes are usually fully developed so that they can be used ''without'' those properties if the plans fall through. (Example: ''[[Wikipedia:Star Fox Adventures|Star Fox Adventures]]'' began as a game that was completely unrelated to Star Fox universe, but Nintendo felt the game was better with SF characters.)

Surprisingly, in the [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine]], then high schooler-aged Chris offered a (slightly) better description of how the three fictional Sonic game releases he hoped for would play out than his proposals for Sonichu games later on and even then, they're highly basic and unoriginal ideas (e.g. ''Super Mario 64'' with Sonic the Hedgehog as its playable character and ''Super Mario All-Stars'' with the four classic ''Sonic'' games originally for Sega Genesis).

Theoretically, it would be possible, though extraordinarily unlikely, for Sega and Nintendo to cooperate enough to make a game featuring a Sonic/Pikachu hybrid named Sonichu. They would not, however, need any input from Chris, or even his permission, to combine characters that ''they'' own. Think about it. Of course, the idea of releasing it cross-platform for ''Sony consoles'' remains yet another absurd and fevered dream on the part of Chris.

In the Sonichu Chronicles he gives [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] "permission" to use the cover to his [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|hand-drawn ''Nintendo Power'' magazine]] as the inevitable cover for when his game is created, even though it's several years old (and, in fact, even ''worse'' than Chris's current skill at art).

To the surprise of no one, Chris has held onto dreams of Sonichu getting turned into a video game character well into [[November 2023]], when he posted a request to "personally" work with [[Nintendo]], offering them his OCs to be integrated into Pokémon canon<ref>[[November 2023 social media posts#Offering to work with Nintendo]]</ref>. Equally unsurprising is that Chris seems to be unaware (willfully or otherwise) that Nintendo has nothing to gain by granting fans' (ludicrous) desires for all the reasons mentioned here, ''especially not'' to someone who has just been released from jail (where he had been kept for a felony that shook the Internet to its core).

===In general===
An issue Chris would face in the industries he aspired to contribute towards is that mainstream publishers will not allow ''any'' pornographic material ([[Sonichu 8|which Chris had nonchalantly drawn into his supposedly kid-friendly comic]]), thus Chris would be forced to comply with a set of rules to make his magnum opus acceptable for the masses, and we all know how ''that'' would turn out.

By a similar token, both Nintendo and Sega would probably not allow [[Sonichu 10|the extreme violent]] [[Sonichu 8|and sexual imagery]] the comic didn't shy away from, especially since he considers Sonichu appropriate for kids (although he did imagine his [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles| Adult Chronicles]] to be rated M for [[Honest Content]]). And that's if they didn't reject it outright ''because of'' said imagery, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|not to mention Chris had drawn smut of his magnum opus himself in the past]] which could make a bad first impression on any reputable company approached to work with him.

Not to mention that Chris, being the egotist we know and love, would have to essentially hand over the rights for Sonichu to whichever company agrees to own his IP, meaning he would have no little to no say in how it plays out according to his whims.

If Chris actually ''were'' in a position of creative control, consider this; during the majority of time the [[CWCipedia]] was online, Chris acted as if he had free reign to dictate a site ''others made and hosted for him'', so letting him be head honcho of a comic or game production would be a colossal mistake. Needless to say, the [[Chris and stress|stress]] of working under him would lead some unfortunate writers/developers to quit and/or the higher-ups to [[Wendy's|eventually fire him]].

==The future of Chris and his business attempts==

Though Chris was never likely to properly contribute toward his favorite creative mediums to begin with, it's even more certain that [[Affair With Mother|the life-changing incest scandal in the mid-summer of 2021]] will give him little to no business opportunities whatsoever.

This would especially be true of the US media industry in the years following #MeToo, in which many prominent celebrities effectively lost their careers upon getting outed as (or simply accused of being) sexual predators. Media companies (and any reputable business operation, for that matter) would definitely refuse to hire Chris, given it's known that he had possibly non-consensual sex with his elderly mother.

Even so, Chris still has [[Praetor]] on his side who successfully arranged for a business venture of selling drawings he had made during incarceration and, since his release from jail, a further run of [[Medallions]] and other assorted junk. Beyond that (and no longer living at [[14 Branchland Court|his house]]), Chris doesn't have many options for business ventures moving forward.

== See also ==
* [[Chris and copyright]]
* [[Chris and work]]
* [[Chris's resume]]
* [[DStecks]], a person who gave Chris $1,000 for more Sonichu pages.
* [[An Important Update]]
* ''[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]'', Chris's not-very-creative-pitch-like PowerPoint presentation
* [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]], in which Chris likewise fails to sell a project idea
* [[Sonichu (game)|''Sonichu'' (game)]]

== References ==
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Chris and brand loyalty

2023-09-07T19:15:43Z

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{{quote|You gotta have merchandise because it's like a wedding ring for the product. And it makes it- and then the fans will- will continue to support you as long as you have the merchandise a- it's like a wedding ring. |[[Download For Play Only|Chris, making his thoughts on branding as clear as he can.]]}}
[[Image:Chris Love Micky D's.png|thumb|I'm LOVIN' it.]]

'''Brand loyalty''' is a consumer's commitment to repeatedly purchase a product or service from a particular company or business. Companies often use advertising, loyalty programs, product placement and contests to establish a brand in which consumers will recognize, value, and seek out at the expense of other brands. Due to his [[Autism|difficulty separating]] [[Chris and reality|reality and fiction]], Chris tends to think advertisement is [[Axe|literal documentation of a product's effectiveness]] rather than an intrinsically biased attempt to lure consumers. As a result of his sense of entitlement, he views [[Chris and contests|winning games of chance]] as a validation of his self-worth. These qualities, in combination with his [[Autism|rigid thinking, fear of change and attraction to routine]], has led Chris to have intense brand loyalty for certain products as well as hatred for their perceived rivals. His loyalty even extends to areas that would not normally be considered "brands", such as mental disabilities and sexual orientations.

==Overview==
{{Quote|Oil of [[Wikipedia: Olay|Olay]] brand bar soap... Softer, smoother skin in a week or so! And, not only that, it gets you clean, and it makes you smell good... I just used it to wash my hands! And I use it in the shower! To [[Mass debating|wash myself vigorously]]! I certainly do not use any animals, my own [[Semen|jizz]], or anything else other than Oil of Olay brand bars of soap. And Axe body wash. And shampoo, and conditioner. Available in anti-dandruff form! But anyway, Oil of Olay. Softer, smoother skin in a week, and makes you very clean. Have a nice day!|[[Anti Troll Movement Video1|Chris, promoting hygiene products without irony.]]}}

[[Image:Rubi 110309.jpg|thumb|right|Chris considered this an appropriate reward for drinking thousands of cans of Coke.]]

Chris considers his choice of brands to be a major component of his identity in the much the same way as [[Autism|other]] [[Love Quest| things.]] In general, once Chris has committed to a particular "brand" he will stand by it regardless of its quality. He considers those who abandon a brand in favor of a competitor, such as [[Sonichu]] fans who became fans of [[Asperchu]], to be "hypocrites". Chris seems to consider being a consumer of a particular brand as something like a relationship — at one point clumsily attempting to use a mangled quote from the video game ''[[:wikipedia:Brütal Legend|Brütal Legend]]'' to explain this strange belief, saying that merchandise was like a wedding ring and that as long as there was branded merchandise available, fans should stay loyal.<ref>[[Download For Play Only]]</ref>

As Chris's allegiance to brands plays such an important role in defining Chris's personal understanding of his identity, he feels highly threatened when either his favorite brands or his loyalty to them are called into question. Many of Chris's most notorious outbursts are a direct result of this insecurity. While this was the basis for much of Chris's internet trolling, it apparently dates back into Chris's early life when school bullies, in a form of proto-trolling, would tell him that Sonic the Hedgehog was dead in order to get a rise out of him.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 9]]</ref>

Chris is highly susceptible to marketing and branding; he feels strong loyalty to brands even, and perhaps especially if they are essentially identical to their rivals. He is drawn to virtually every attempt at generating brand loyalty, compulsively entering any contest he encounters and fastidiously collecting various loyalty points, including [[My Coke Rewards]] and [[Wikipedia:McDonald's Monopoly|''McDonald's Monopoly'']].

[[Image:Lbpsucks.JPG|thumb|left|[[Chris and copyright|Free advertising]].]]
Chris seems to struggle to understand the economics of advertisements, instead of seeing them as positive features in the media he enjoys. He happily included his own versions of advertisements and product placement for real brands in his [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine]] and nearly every issue of [[Sonichu]]; he seemed genuinely surprised that Coke, for example, wouldn't want one of his fake Coke ads — "hand-drawn charm" notwithstanding — on the [[CWCipedia]]. He also frequently states that his videos are sponsored or "brought to you by" various companies with which he has no business relationship and uses his own variation of marketing speak to plug their products.<ref>[[Anti Troll Movement Video1]]</ref> Likewise he often attempts to promote his favorite brands by parroting their advertising language, a habit he has had since at least high school.<ref>[[Song of Christian]]</ref>

He is a vigorous defender of his favored brands in unusual ways, warning his readers not to purchase pirated versions of ''[[Little Big Planet]]'' (a PS3-exclusive title) for Xbox 360, despite the fact that this is impossible.

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==[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]==
{{quote|HERO OF MY LIFE|[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Chris, describing Sonic]}}
[[Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|thumb|right|A match made in heaven?]]
Sonic is the quintessential example of Chris's intense brand loyalty. Chris is, in many ways, the product of Sega's attempt to allow people to feel a personal connection with electronic appliances. Following [[Super Mario Bros.|Mario]]'s success for Nintendo, Sonic was designed to appeal to young children all over the world and act as a mascot for Sega. He was concocted by combining elements from other popular cultural elements of the early 1990s, including Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, and Santa Claus. Part of Sega's strategy was to employ a multi-pronged marketing technique, including video games, television shows, toys and contests. Chris followed all of these closely and in a fateful moment became the winner of the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]], which cemented Sonic's place of honor in Chris's mind. Sonic became Chris's "lifelong hero," replacing his previous "lifelong hero" [[The Adventures of The American Rabbit|The American Rabbit]] (despite Sonic's much greater grip on his life, Chris has often felt compelled to mention the American Rabbit, as if out of some obligation). While Sonic was certainly a popular franchise, particularly in the 1990s, Chris became obsessed with the hedgehog to a level likely unanticipated by Sega. During the 1990s Sonic occupied nearly all of his thinking, serving as a fantasy world in which he could escape from the realities of daily life. Chris would generally combine Sonic with whatever he was doing, whether it was replacing the characters in ''[[R.L. Stine|Goosebumps]]'' books with Sonic characters or combining Sonic with basketball to form the recolor "[[Bionic the Hedgehog|Bionic]]." Over the past two decades, Chris has purchased nearly every Sonic-branded game, toy, and bit of merchandise, and seems to view Sonic as something resembling an old personal friend.

Instead of growing up and moving on when the Sonic brand began to grow stale at the end of the 1990s, Chris merged Sonic with his other beloved franchise at the time, [[Pokémon]], to create [[Sonichu]], who has largely replaced Sonic as the primary character in his internal fantasy world - although Sonic still makes occasional cameo appearances.

Despite Sonic's sidekick Tails' major presence in the Sonic canon, Chris rarely refers to him and conspicuously left him, or any recolor of him or two-tailed anything, absent from ''Sonichu''. Some have speculated that this may be due to popular schoolyard rumors that conjectured that Sonic and Tails were in a homosexual relationship. Chris's notorious [[homos|homophobia]] may have caused him to have an aversion to a character that he imagined might have tempted Sonic from "the straight path."

Although Mario and Nintendo were vicious rivals of Sonic and Sega, Chris seems to have been largely oblivious to this tension ([[Chris and hypocrisy|or simply did not care because he liked both brands]]) and never subjected them to the kind of hatred he would aim at rivals of his favored products later in his life.

Chris appears to worship Sonic ''the character'' more than Sonic ''the brand'', as he would be easily teased at school when other students said that Sonic was dead<ref>[[Jackie Chat 9]]</ref>, and believed that YouTuber "hotdiggedydemon" had murderous intent against the [[Chris and reality|fictional character]] in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF9CS3L_ezw Sonic: Too Fast?] and insisted [[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Sonic: Too Fast?|that Sonic was alive]]. Chris's almost religious dedication to Sonic reached a surprising limit when he [[26 December 2014|vandalized products and assaulted staff]] over a superficial change to Sonic, [[Sonic Boom|the color of his arms]].

==[[PS3|Playstation 3]] vs. [[HEXBox]]==
[[Image:KillThatHexBawx.jpg|thumb|left|Violence is never the answer.]]
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{{quote|Sony's Playstation 3 and Playstation Portable are Truly a place I can call My Digital Home. :D Happy Anniversary, Playstation 3; you are Truly the Best Life Upgrade Ever|[[PS3 History Level|Chris expressing TRUE and HONEST love.]]}}
Perhaps Chris's best known case of brand loyalty is his sycophantic love of the [[PS3|Sony PlayStation 3]] and abject hatred for the [[HEXBox|Microsoft XBox 360]]. While fanboyism for these video game consoles is certainly well known and the rivalry between these products is referred to as a "console war", Chris, as he frequently does, took it to a new level, irrationally hating the Xbox 360 and heaping love and money on Sony. Chris was obsessed with the PlayStation 3 long before he was able to purchase one, stating that he would throw out the cure for autism for the $600 hunk of black plastic.<ref>[[Pixelated PS3]]</ref> When he finally bought a PS3, after failing to [[Pixelated PS3|win it in a contest]], he considered it to be the "ultimate life upgrade". The PS3 and its online component the [[PSN]], where he has spent thousands of dollars, became an extremely important part of every day for Chris. He would also use his limited budget to purchase numerous Sony branded accessories, including a flat-screen TV, a [[PSEye]], PSmove, PSmove Sharpshooter and multiple [[Guitar Hero]] controllers. Chris seems to find more pleasure in the purchasing of PS3 content than in its actual use. He frequently buys downloadable content for games he does not own. Chris seems to consider the PS3 and its games and accessories to be a genuine life improvement or something akin to investments rather than a glorified hugbox; how these electronic gizmos do anything but distract him from reality remains unclear. Chris went to great lengths to express his distaste for the PS3's primary rival: the Xbox 360, or "HEXbox" as he liked to call it. When Chris would propose a video game such as [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]], he would make sure to state that it would be for all consoles... HEXbox excepted. Chris went as far as defacing in-store advertisements for the Xbox while yelling "kick that hex-bawx"<ref>[[August 2010]]</ref> and frequently lashing out at those who appeared to like or be affiliated with the Xbox.

Chris's reasons for hating the Xbox 360 have never been clearly defined. When pressed for answers, Chris would generally cite Xbox Live's (Xbox's online component) cost or the infamous "[[Wikipedia:Red_ring_of_death#.22General_Hardware_Failure.22_errors|red ring of death]]".<ref>[[Mailbag 5]]</ref> He would later admit that his anger stemmed from jealousy over being unable to afford an original Xbox and that the aforementioned reasons were merely excuses<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref>. Though he later softened his stance against the Xbox under the influence of [[Jackie]], the rivalry between the consoles and Chris's loyalty towards Sony was at its peak during the height of Chris trolling. This caused his hatred to become well known and the Xbox 360 to become a bit of a mascot for trolls. Chris also associated the Xbox with trolls, depicting [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]] as an Xbox user. Even though he has recanted much of his hatred towards the XBox 360, he has not made the choice to purchase one, despite spending the vast majority of his money on video games.

Chris once felt similar hatred towards the PlayStation 1 and 2, which were at that time rivals to his beloved Nintendo 64 and GameCube respectively. His hatred for Sony and its gaming products, described by Chris as equal to his contemporary hatred of Microsoft, evaporated when he purchased a PlayStation 1 at an SPCA rummage sale for a "bargain." He intended to sell it for profit, but instead played it and found it to be enjoyable. Instead of learning from this, discovering that rival consoles can be equally enjoyable, Chris simply became a [[Sony]] fanboy (in addition to a [[Nintendo]] fanboy) and began hating Microsoft.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref>
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==[[Autism]] vs. [[Asperger syndrome|Asperger's]]==
{{quote|Competing Retards|[[Mailbag 19|The first words that come to Chris's mind when he thinks of Asperger's syndrome]]}}
Chris extends his loyalty to brands far outside the normal realms of products and services and into the world of [[Slow-in-the-minds|mental abnormality.]] He is extremely loyal to his diagnosis of autism, swearing by "my autism" multiple times and considering it to be an integral part of his identity, despite having serious difficulty grasping how the condition affects his ability to function. Just as with the PS3 and Xbox 360, Chris has identified a rival to autism in Asperger's syndrome. This is a classic case of Chris's propensity to choose one "brand" over another despite the fact that they are identical; Chris's "high-functioning" autism and Asperger's are essentially the same diagnoses. Chris feels that people with Asperger's are trying to "steal his limelight" and in fact stated that the name of the disorder, beyond merely sounding like "a bad cut of meat," brought to mind "competing retards." He seems to believe that people with Asperger's syndrome are somehow faking their symptoms.

Chris's loyalty to autism and insistence on believing it to be different from Asperger's syndrome forces him to ignore any kind of reason. Initially, his unusual feelings on the matter were unknown and he was able to blissfully hold onto his ignorance unopposed, but when they were discovered and the outside world pushed him on the issue he displayed a stunning slide towards the grossly irrational. Initially, when confronted by "fans" in the [[mailbag]], Chris claimed, while pointing to the Wikipedia articles on the topic, that the two were differentiated by the age of onset (which is complete nonsense), but quickly decided that his "mind was closed" to the matter and refused to answer any more questions on the topic. When pushed further by [[Vivian G]], Chris went as far as to say that he was willing "[[Chris and reality|live this lie than believe that truth]]."

==[[Harry Potter]] vs. [[Pokémon]]==

[[Image:100-DarkCWC.jpg|thumb|right|Chris expressing his hatred for "that spaz" the only way he knows how... in Pokémon form.]]
{{quote|He dared compete against Pok'emon, PLUS he is a total Spaz, and I just do not care for him at all.|[[Mailbag 7|Chris]]}}
Although this is not seen as a traditional rivalry by the rest of the world, Chris has a strong dislike of the boy wizard Harry Potter because he perceives him to be a threat to the Pokémon franchise. Chris calls him a "[[Christian Weston Chandler|total spaz]]"<ref>[[Mailbag 7]]</ref> and at one point even [[Death threats|''threatened to kill'']] [[Chris and reality|the fictional character]].<ref>[[:File:100-DarkCWC.jpg|"Dark Christian" card]] from [[Wall of Originals]].</ref> His hatred appears to stem from Chris's perception that a brand was once again "stealing the limelight" from something he identified with, in this case, Pokémon. While Pokémon was aimed at younger children, Harry Potter targeted a slightly older, more literate demographic. To Chris, the choice was obvious.
In later years Chris softened his stance on Harry Potter and at the request of [[Jackie]], he [[I put on my Wizard's cloak and magic hat|dressed up as a wizard and made reference to Harry Potter]].

==My Little Pony==
Chris was [[My_Little_Pony_Protests|outraged]] by the release of My Little Pony: A New Generation, as best shown in his video, "Hasbro! MLP G4 Must Continue; NO MLP G5!" This is due Chris's belief that if the show ends, his [[Imaginary friends]] will not achieve their true potential. This series of protests shows that even when it comes to the same brand, Chris feels the need to pick a side and stick with it till the end

==[[Nintendo]]==
{{quote|Listen People of Nintendo, DURING MY LIFETIME, my family and I have [[Chris and money|invested]] THOUSANDS of American Dollars and Cents in Nintendo Video Games and Systems from NES and Game Boy to Gamecube/Wii and DS/GBA.|[[Miyamoto_Saga#Chris's Inspiration|Chris, expecting his loyalty to Nintendo to be repaid.]]}}
Chris has been a lifelong fan of Nintendo products, and although his love of Sonic prevented him from becoming obsessed with Mario, Chris has owned nearly every Nintendo console and handheld since the NES (there have been no signs of the infamous Virtual Boy). His relationship with Nintendo and his interactions with [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], who he believed was interested in producing a Sonichu game, displays Chris's odd understanding of consumer/corporate relations. It appears that Chris believed that his loyalty to various corporate interests would be recognized and returned in a reciprocal fashion, as he listed his multitude of Nintendo purchases in an attempt to convince the game developer to work with him.<ref>Miyamoto emails</ref>

==Apple/iOS==
Chris is an avid user of iOS products. In 2013, he built a [[Idea Book Case|double phone case]] to contain his iPhone 5 and 5th-generation iPod Touch. Chris used the 8GB iPhone for everything requiring cell service, and he used the 32GB iPod for entertainment - and it wasn't even his only iPod Touch at the time. He had another one of equal capacity, loaded with different content. He designed the case to make it easy to switch between products, and even considers it to be [[ego|one of his greatest inventions]].<ref>[[Mailbag 1#Chris the inventor]]</ref> Why he didn't just buy a 64GB iPhone is beyond mere mortals.

He still had the case as of 2018, but he now used it for holding not one, but two functioning iPhones. He bought an iPad Pro in [[May 2020]], rounding out the trilogy of iOS devices.

Despite this, Chris is on the PC side of the Mac or PC divide.

Much earlier in his life, Chris unsurprisingly preferred the [[Commodore 64]] over the Apple II (which was a common OS of choice for American schools in the [[1980s]]) whilst stating he enjoyed playing games on the latter during his primary school days.<ref>[[Warhol Tweets#Chris larps as his younger self]]</ref>

==Sexuality==
{{quote|I am straight; do not label me otherwise. I would rather suffer a painful [[Tomgirl|gender-change operation]] than ever be a [[homo]].|[[Sonichu #9|Chris demonstrating proper use of a semicolon.]]}}
{{quote|Also, I Swear as God and Jesus as my Witnesses, [[Virgin#No_longer_a_virgin_.28no_word_on_the_rage.29|THE FIRST TIME]], and maybe the second time as well, [[Mia Hamm|I HAVE SEX WITH A WOMAN]], I WILL Video Record the Whole Thing and Upload it onto RedTube, so FINALLY PEOPLE can SEE what should have been seen almost a Decade Ago.|[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)|Chris discussing his plans for his first time with his webmaster.]]}}
Chris's former allegiance to heterosexuality and hatred for homosexuality could be
seen as a form of warped brand loyalty. To Chris (prior to his [[transgender|coming out]]), heterosexual love is the
purest joyous expression of emotion that can be experienced, the search for
which is the noblest of quests. Its opposite — homosexual love — on the other hand, is a warped dangerous temptation and those who practice it are worthy of scorn. Chris had even forgone platonic same-sex friendships in an effort to avoid any possibility that he might associate with and be tempted by a homosexual. Just as with his hatred for the XBox, Chris was completely closed minded when it comes to evaluating homosexuality; to him, it was the enemy and the mere thought of it made him blind with rage. Despite his efforts at finding heterosexual love, Chris seemed more concerned with ensuring that he was properly labeled as a STRAIGHT man. His efforts to prove to the world that he was in fact not a homo included going as far as planning to record and publicize his first heterosexual experience against the wishes of his hypothetical partner. Whether Chris's former hatred for homosexuality stems from jealousy, as it did with his hatred for the XBox, is unknown.

The origin of this loyalty can be traced back to his childhood: [[Bob Chandler]], being a not-so-nice Southern gentleman, not only disliked homosexuals in the traditional bigoted manner, but suffered from frequent paranoid delusions regarding their role in his life. When Chris ran into trouble at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] Bob blamed the problems not only on the principal (who he was certain was a homosexual), but on the school board which, for reasons left unclear, he believed to be stacked with homosexuals who despised his family. Even the incredibly [[naïve]] Christian was capable of seeing that this was, at the very least, an exaggeration, if not a paranoid persecution fantasy<ref>Chris, on IRC, circa 21 January 2009.</ref>. Nevertheless, this kind of hatred and paranoia sunk into Chris's mind and was compounded by Bob's unfounded and bizarre belief that Chris's trolling originated with several homosexuals who he believed frequented [[the GAMe PLACe]].

Chris's feelings on lesbianism were more nuanced. While he still felt the Biblical injunction against same-sex coupling applies, scissoring was just too hot for him to condemn.

Everything changed in [[2014]] when Chris came out as a trans lesbian. He loosened his stance on sexuality, and he now considers himself to be part of the [[SLGBTQ|LGBT]] community. In 2018, the [[Idea Guys]] convinced him that he was [[bisexual]], giving his loyalty to the LGBTQ+ community completely.

==[[Axe]]==
{{quote|I respectfully and humbly request that on the package a statement li—such as "DESIGNED ONLY FOR STRAIGHT ORIENTED MEN"|[[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|Chris]]}}
Chris's loyalty to this multinational deodorant brand (called Lynx in the UK and [[PandaHalo|Australia]]) is a classic example of Chris taking advertising literally. Early commercials for the deodorant depicted women throwing themselves at men in a manner reminiscent of Chris's desire for women to approach him in public. Rather than seeing this as hyperbole, Chris seems to believe that the product may have this effect in reality. Obviously Axe has never worked as advertised for Chris, but he has maintained his status as a loyal customer for many years.

Axe is also an example of how Chris considers the products he buys an integral component of his identity. As a loyal Axe customer, he was deeply disturbed when he was told that Axe was popular in the gay community, and he felt the need to use [[YouTube]] to [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|request that the Unilever Corporation]] use labels to specifically forbid homosexuals from using their products. Chris clearly took the marketing towards heterosexual men literally.

==[[McDonald's]] vs. [[Burger King]]==
{{quote|Tea for a dollar, in a Large Cup, at McDonalds; go Dollar-Menuaires!|[[IRC (24 October 2008)|Chris, plugging his favorite restaurant to the trolls.]]}}
[[Image:Burgerking.jpg|thumb|left|[[Chris and cinematography|An example of Chris's brilliant camerawork]].]]
Chris is a lifelong acolyte of McDonald's and thus dislikes its main competitor, Burger King. McDonald's is a major component of Chris's life. He eats a significant percentage of his meals at the popular fast-food restaurant, considers it the perfect location for a first date, and features it as a location in several issues of Sonichu. One of his most cherished and sickening fantasies involves having sex with his sweetheart in the handicapped bathroom of the local McDonald's. Chris has little love for Burger King, although he certainly never mentioned refusing to eat the food when dragged there by his father, who preferred it to McDonald's. Bob and Chris apparently did have some dispute about coupons with the manager of their local Burger King, resulting in Chris's bizarre attempt to get his trolls to troll the manager by creating an article on the CWCki. Chris has never mentioned having any strong positive or negative feelings toward [[Wendy's]] before his brief stint as an employee, and seems not to hold animosity toward the chain as a whole despite being fired from his local store after about a month.

Some time in 2012 Chris seemed to have turned on McDonald's, urging people to avoid the Forest Lakes location as he believes he has been discriminated against due to his autism and foul mouth. But in [[2013]], he plugged it on [[Facebook]]: ''Eat Healthy with Premium McWraps, Apple Slices and Tea.'' (Note that McWraps contain up to 620 calories, and the tea 220. And even the apple slices have been found to be [http://jezebel.com/5934390/mcdonaldss-apple-slices-recalled-because-theyre-crawling-with-disease crawling with ''Listeria''].)

==Coke and Pepsi==
Surprisingly, Chris does not appear to have specific long-term loyalty in this classic example of a nonexistent choice. He has been known to drink both, but claims that Sonichu drinks only [[CWC Cola]], a variant of Pepsi with a [[Semen|special ingredient]]. At one point he supported a boycott of Pepsi due to its alleged "gay-friendliness." He has been known to hoard My Coke Rewards points; in the Ivy Q&A, Ivy describes his becoming miffed at having to use his points to buy a different version of a song he already owned to fulfill Ivy's request for a video. One might think that a few points are a trifling thing when sweet, sweet [[china]] is the potential reward, but then one probably isn't Chris.
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Chris and brand loyalty

2023-09-07T19:15:15Z

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{{quote|You gotta have merchandise because it's like a wedding ring for the product. And it makes it- and then the fans will- will continue to support you as long as you have the merchandise a- it's like a wedding ring. |[[Download For Play Only|Chris, making his thoughts on branding as clear as he can.]]}}
[[Image:Chris Love Micky D's.png|thumb|I'm LOVIN' it.]]

'''Brand loyalty''' is a consumer's commitment to repeatedly purchase a product or service from a particular company or business. Companies often use advertising, loyalty programs, product placement and contests to establish a brand in which consumers will recognize, value, and seek out at the expense of other brands. Due to his [[Autism|difficulty separating]] [[Chris and reality|reality and fiction]], Chris tends to think advertisement is [[Axe|literal documentation of a product's effectiveness]] rather than an intrinsically biased attempt to lure consumers. As a result of his sense of entitlement, he views [[Chris and contests|winning games of chance]] as a validation of his self-worth. These qualities, in combination with his [[Autism|rigid thinking, fear of change and attraction to routine]], has led Chris to have intense brand loyalty for certain products as well as hatred for their perceived rivals. His loyalty even extends to areas that would not normally be considered "brands", such as mental disabilities and sexual orientations.

==Overview==
{{Quote|Oil of [[Wikipedia: Olay|Olay]] brand bar soap... Softer, smoother skin in a week or so! And, not only that, it gets you clean, and it makes you smell good... I just used it to wash my hands! And I use it in the shower! To [[Mass debating|wash myself vigorously]]! I certainly do not use any animals, my own [[Semen|jizz]], or anything else other than Oil of Olay brand bars of soap. And Axe body wash. And shampoo, and conditioner. Available in anti-dandruff form! But anyway, Oil of Olay. Softer, smoother skin in a week, and makes you very clean. Have a nice day!|[[Anti Troll Movement Video1|Chris, promoting hygiene products without irony.]]}}

[[Image:Rubi 110309.jpg|thumb|right|Chris considered this an appropriate reward for drinking thousands of cans of Coke.]]

Chris considers his choice of brands to be a major component of his identity in the much the same way as [[Autism|other]] [[Love Quest| things.]] In general, once Chris has committed to a particular "brand" he will stand by it regardless of its quality. He considers those who abandon a brand in favor of a competitor, such as [[Sonichu]] fans who became fans of [[Asperchu]], to be "hypocrites". Chris seems to consider being a consumer of a particular brand as something like a relationship — at one point clumsily attempting to use a mangled quote from the video game ''[[:wikipedia:Brütal Legend|Brütal Legend]]'' to explain this strange belief, saying that merchandise was like a wedding ring and that as long as there was branded merchandise available, fans should stay loyal.<ref>[[Download For Play Only]]</ref>

As Chris's allegiance to brands plays such an important role in defining Chris's personal understanding of his identity, he feels highly threatened when either his favorite brands or his loyalty to them are called into question. Many of Chris's most notorious outbursts are a direct result of this insecurity. While this was the basis for much of Chris's internet trolling, it apparently dates back into Chris's early life when school bullies, in a form of proto-trolling, would tell him that Sonic the Hedgehog was dead in order to get a rise out of him.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 9]]</ref>

Chris is highly susceptible to marketing and branding; he feels strong loyalty to brands even, and perhaps especially if they are essentially identical to their rivals. He is drawn to virtually every attempt at generating brand loyalty, compulsively entering any contest he encounters and fastidiously collecting various loyalty points, including [[My Coke Rewards]] and [[Wikipedia:McDonald's Monopoly|''McDonald's Monopoly'']].

[[Image:Lbpsucks.JPG|thumb|left|[[Chris and copyright|Free advertising]].]]
Chris seems to struggle to understand the economics of advertisements, instead of seeing them as positive features in the media he enjoys. He happily included his own versions of advertisements and product placement for real brands in his [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine]] and nearly every issue of [[Sonichu]]; he seemed genuinely surprised that Coke, for example, wouldn't want one of his fake Coke ads — "hand-drawn charm" notwithstanding — on the [[CWCipedia]]. He also frequently states that his videos are sponsored or "brought to you by" various companies with which he has no business relationship and uses his own variation of marketing speak to plug their products.<ref>[[Anti Troll Movement Video1]]</ref> Likewise he often attempts to promote his favorite brands by parroting their advertising language, a habit he has had since at least high school.<ref>[[Song of Christian]]</ref>

He is a vigorous defender of his favored brands in unusual ways, warning his readers not to purchase pirated versions of ''[[Little Big Planet]]'' (a PS3-exclusive title) for Xbox 360, despite the fact that this is impossible.

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==[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]==
{{quote|HERO OF MY LIFE|[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Chris, describing Sonic]}}
[[Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|thumb|right|A match made in heaven?]]
Sonic is the quintessential example of Chris's intense brand loyalty. Chris is, in many ways, the product of Sega's attempt to allow people to feel a personal connection with electronic appliances. Following [[Super Mario Bros.|Mario]]'s success for Nintendo, Sonic was designed to appeal to young children all over the world and act as a mascot for Sega. He was concocted by combining elements from other popular cultural elements of the early 1990s, including Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, and Santa Claus. Part of Sega's strategy was to employ a multi-pronged marketing technique, including video games, television shows, toys and contests. Chris followed all of these closely and in a fateful moment became the winner of the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]], which cemented Sonic's place of honor in Chris's mind. Sonic became Chris's "lifelong hero," replacing his previous "lifelong hero" [[The Adventures of The American Rabbit|The American Rabbit]] (despite Sonic's much greater grip on his life, Chris has often felt compelled to mention the American Rabbit, as if out of some obligation). While Sonic was certainly a popular franchise, particularly in the 1990s, Chris became obsessed with the hedgehog to a level likely unanticipated by Sega. During the 1990s Sonic occupied nearly all of his thinking, serving as a fantasy world in which he could escape from the realities of daily life. Chris would generally combine Sonic with whatever he was doing, whether it was replacing the characters in ''[[R.L. Stine|Goosebumps]]'' books with Sonic characters or combining Sonic with basketball to form the recolor "[[Bionic the Hedgehog|Bionic]]." Over the past two decades, Chris has purchased nearly every Sonic-branded game, toy, and bit of merchandise, and seems to view Sonic as something resembling an old personal friend.

Instead of growing up and moving on when the Sonic brand began to grow stale at the end of the 1990s, Chris merged Sonic with his other beloved franchise at the time, [[Pokémon]], to create [[Sonichu]], who has largely replaced Sonic as the primary character in his internal fantasy world - although Sonic still makes occasional cameo appearances.

Despite Sonic's sidekick Tails' major presence in the Sonic canon, Chris rarely refers to him and conspicuously left him, or any recolor of him or two-tailed anything, absent from ''Sonichu''. Some have speculated that this may be due to popular schoolyard rumors that conjectured that Sonic and Tails were in a homosexual relationship. Chris's notorious [[homos|homophobia]] may have caused him to have an aversion to a character that he imagined might have tempted Sonic from "the straight path."

Although Mario and Nintendo were vicious rivals of Sonic and Sega, Chris seems to have been largely oblivious to this tension ([[Chris and hypocrisy|or simply did not care because he liked both brands]]) and never subjected them to the kind of hatred he would aim at rivals of his favored products later in his life.

Chris appears to worship Sonic ''the character'' more than Sonic ''the brand'', as he would be easily teased at school when other students said that Sonic was dead<ref>[[Jackie Chat 9]]</ref>, and believed that YouTuber "hotdiggedydemon" had murderous intent against the [[Chris and reality|fictional character]] in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF9CS3L_ezw Sonic: Too Fast?] and insisted [[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Sonic: Too Fast?|that Sonic was alive]]. Chris's almost religious dedication to Sonic reached a surprising limit when he [[26 December 2014|vandalized products and assaulted staff]] over a superficial change to Sonic, [[Sonic Boom|the color of his arms]].

==[[PS3|Playstation 3]] vs. [[HEXBox]]==
[[Image:KillThatHexBawx.jpg|thumb|left|Violence is never the answer.]]
[[Image:cwcps3_by_nevermonkey-d4jrnny.jpg|thumb|right]]
{{quote|Sony's Playstation 3 and Playstation Portable are Truly a place I can call My Digital Home. :D Happy Anniversary, Playstation 3; you are Truly the Best Life Upgrade Ever|[[PS3 History Level|Chris expressing TRUE and HONEST love.]]}}
Perhaps Chris's best known case of brand loyalty is his sycophantic love of the [[PS3|Sony PlayStation 3]] and abject hatred for the [[HEXBox|Microsoft XBox 360]]. While fanboyism for these video game consoles is certainly well known and the rivalry between these products is referred to as a "console war", Chris, as he frequently does, took it to a new level, irrationally hating the Xbox 360 and heaping love and money on Sony. Chris was obsessed with the PlayStation 3 long before he was able to purchase one, stating that he would throw out the cure for autism for the $600 hunk of black plastic.<ref>[[Pixelated PS3]]</ref> When he finally bought a PS3, after failing to [[Pixelated PS3|win it in a contest]], he considered it to be the "ultimate life upgrade". The PS3 and its online component the [[PSN]], where he has spent thousands of dollars, became an extremely important part of every day for Chris. He would also use his limited budget to purchase numerous Sony branded accessories, including a flat-screen TV, a [[PSEye]], PSmove, PSmove Sharpshooter and multiple [[Guitar Hero]] controllers. Chris seems to find more pleasure in the purchasing of PS3 content than in its actual use. He frequently buys downloadable content for games he does not own. Chris seems to consider the PS3 and its games and accessories to be a genuine life improvement or something akin to investments rather than a glorified hugbox; how these electronic gizmos do anything but distract him from reality remains unclear. Chris went to great lengths to express his distaste for the PS3's primary rival: the Xbox 360, or "HEXbox" as he liked to call it. When Chris would propose a video game such as [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]], he would make sure to state that it would be for all consoles... HEXbox excepted. Chris went as far as defacing in-store advertisements for the Xbox while yelling "kick that hex-bawx"<ref>[[August 2010]]</ref> and frequently lashing out at those who appeared to like or be affiliated with the Xbox.

Chris's reasons for hating the Xbox 360 have never been clearly defined. When pressed for answers, Chris would generally cite Xbox Live's (Xbox's online component) cost or the infamous "[[Wikipedia:Red_ring_of_death#.22General_Hardware_Failure.22_errors|red ring of death]]".<ref>[[Mailbag 5]]</ref> He would later admit that his anger stemmed from jealousy over being unable to afford an original Xbox and that the aforementioned reasons were merely excuses<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref>. Though he later softened his stance against the Xbox under the influence of [[Jackie]], the rivalry between the consoles and Chris's loyalty towards Sony was at its peak during the height of Chris trolling. This caused his hatred to become well known and the Xbox 360 to become a bit of a mascot for trolls. Chris also associated the Xbox with trolls, depicting [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]] as an Xbox user. Even though he has recanted much of his hatred towards the XBox 360, he has not made the choice to purchase one, despite spending the vast majority of his money on video games.

Chris once felt similar hatred towards the PlayStation 1 and 2, which were at that time rivals to his beloved Nintendo 64 and GameCube respectively. His hatred for Sony and its gaming products, described by Chris as equal to his contemporary hatred of Microsoft, evaporated when he purchased a PlayStation 1 at an SPCA rummage sale for a "bargain." He intended to sell it for profit, but instead played it and found it to be enjoyable. Instead of learning from this, discovering that rival consoles can be equally enjoyable, Chris simply became a [[Sony]] fanboy (in addition to a [[Nintendo]] fanboy) and began hating Microsoft.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref>
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==[[Autism]] vs. [[Asperger syndrome|Asperger's]]==
{{quote|Competing Retards|[[Mailbag 19|The first words that come to Chris's mind when he thinks of Asperger's syndrome]]}}
Chris extends his loyalty to brands far outside the normal realms of products and services and into the world of [[Slow-in-the-minds|mental abnormality.]] He is extremely loyal to his diagnosis of autism, swearing by "my autism" multiple times and considering it to be an integral part of his identity, despite having serious difficulty grasping how the condition affects his ability to function. Just as with the PS3 and Xbox 360, Chris has identified a rival to autism in Asperger's syndrome. This is a classic case of Chris's propensity to choose one "brand" over another despite the fact that they are identical; Chris's "high-functioning" autism and Asperger's are essentially the same diagnoses. Chris feels that people with Asperger's are trying to "steal his limelight" and in fact stated that the name of the disorder, beyond merely sounding like "a bad cut of meat," brought to mind "competing retards." He seems to believe that people with Asperger's syndrome are somehow faking their symptoms.

Chris's loyalty to autism and insistence on believing it to be different from Asperger's syndrome forces him to ignore any kind of reason. Initially, his unusual feelings on the matter were unknown and he was able to blissfully hold onto his ignorance unopposed, but when they were discovered and the outside world pushed him on the issue he displayed a stunning slide towards the grossly irrational. Initially, when confronted by "fans" in the [[mailbag]], Chris claimed, while pointing to the Wikipedia articles on the topic, that the two were differentiated by the age of onset (which is complete nonsense), but quickly decided that his "mind was closed" to the matter and refused to answer any more questions on the topic. When pushed further by [[Vivian G]], Chris went as far as to say that he was willing "[[Chris and reality|live this lie than believe that truth]]."

==[[Harry Potter]] vs. [[Pokémon]]==

[[Image:100-DarkCWC.jpg|thumb|right|Chris expressing his hatred for "that spaz" the only way he knows how... in Pokémon form.]]
{{quote|He dared compete against Pok'emon, PLUS he is a total Spaz, and I just do not care for him at all.|[[Mailbag 7|Chris]]}}
Although this is not seen as a traditional rivalry by the rest of the world, Chris has a strong dislike of the boy wizard Harry Potter because he perceives him to be a threat to the Pokémon franchise. Chris calls him a "[[Christian Weston Chandler|total spaz]]"<ref>[[Mailbag 7]]</ref> and at one point even [[Death threats|''threatened to kill'']] [[Chris and reality|the fictional character]].<ref>[[:File:100-DarkCWC.jpg|"Dark Christian" card]] from [[Wall of Originals]].</ref> His hatred appears to stem from Chris's perception that a brand was once again "stealing the limelight" from something he identified with, in this case, Pokémon. While Pokémon was aimed at younger children, Harry Potter targeted a slightly older, more literate demographic. To Chris, the choice was obvious.
In later years Chris softened his stance on Harry Potter and at the request of [[Jackie]], he [[I put on my Wizard's cloak and magic hat|dressed up as a wizard and made reference to Harry Potter]].

==My Little Pony==
Chris was [[My_Little_Pony_Protests|outraged]] by the release of My Little Pony: A New Generation, as best shown in his video, "Hasbro! MLP G4 Must Continue; NO MLP G5!" This is due Chris's belief that if the show ends, his [[Imaginary friends]] will not achieve their true potential. This series of protests shows that even when it comes to the same brand, Chris feels the need to pick a side and stick with it till the end

==[[Nintendo]]==
{{quote|Listen People of Nintendo, DURING MY LIFETIME, my family and I have [[Chris and money|invested]] THOUSANDS of American Dollars and Cents in Nintendo Video Games and Systems from NES and Game Boy to Gamecube/Wii and DS/GBA.|[[Miyamoto_Saga#Chris's Inspiration|Chris, expecting his loyalty to Nintendo to be repaid.]]}}
Chris has been a lifelong fan of Nintendo products, and although his love of Sonic prevented him from becoming obsessed with Mario, Chris has owned nearly every Nintendo console and handheld since the NES (there have been no signs of the infamous Virtual Boy). His relationship with Nintendo and his interactions with [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], who he believed was interested in producing a Sonichu game, displays Chris's odd understanding of consumer/corporate relations. It appears that Chris believed that his loyalty to various corporate interests would be recognized and returned in a reciprocal fashion, as he listed his multitude of Nintendo purchases in an attempt to convince the game developer to work with him.<ref>Miyamoto emails</ref>

==Apple/iOS==
Chris is an avid user of iOS products. In 2013, he built a [[Idea Book Case|double phone case]] to contain his iPhone 5 and 5th-generation iPod Touch. Chris used the 8GB iPhone for everything requiring cell service, and he used the 32GB iPod for entertainment - and it wasn't even his only iPod Touch at the time. He had another one of equal capacity, loaded with different content. He designed the case to make it easy to switch between products, and even considers it to be [[ego|one of his greatest inventions]].<ref>[[Mailbag 1#Chris the inventor]]</ref> Why he didn't just buy a 64GB iPhone is beyond mere mortals.

He still had the case as of 2018, but he now used it for holding not one, but two functioning iPhones. He bought an iPad Pro in [[May 2020]], rounding out the trilogy of iOS devices.

Despite this, Chris is on the PC side of the Mac or PC divide.

Much earlier in his life, Chris unsurprisingly preferred the [[Commodore 64]] over the Apple II (which was a common OS of choice for American schools in the [[1980s]]) whilst stating he enjoyed playing games on the latter during his primary school days<ref>[[Warhol Tweets#Chris larps as his younger self]]</ref>

==Sexuality==
{{quote|I am straight; do not label me otherwise. I would rather suffer a painful [[Tomgirl|gender-change operation]] than ever be a [[homo]].|[[Sonichu #9|Chris demonstrating proper use of a semicolon.]]}}
{{quote|Also, I Swear as God and Jesus as my Witnesses, [[Virgin#No_longer_a_virgin_.28no_word_on_the_rage.29|THE FIRST TIME]], and maybe the second time as well, [[Mia Hamm|I HAVE SEX WITH A WOMAN]], I WILL Video Record the Whole Thing and Upload it onto RedTube, so FINALLY PEOPLE can SEE what should have been seen almost a Decade Ago.|[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)|Chris discussing his plans for his first time with his webmaster.]]}}
Chris's former allegiance to heterosexuality and hatred for homosexuality could be
seen as a form of warped brand loyalty. To Chris (prior to his [[transgender|coming out]]), heterosexual love is the
purest joyous expression of emotion that can be experienced, the search for
which is the noblest of quests. Its opposite — homosexual love — on the other hand, is a warped dangerous temptation and those who practice it are worthy of scorn. Chris had even forgone platonic same-sex friendships in an effort to avoid any possibility that he might associate with and be tempted by a homosexual. Just as with his hatred for the XBox, Chris was completely closed minded when it comes to evaluating homosexuality; to him, it was the enemy and the mere thought of it made him blind with rage. Despite his efforts at finding heterosexual love, Chris seemed more concerned with ensuring that he was properly labeled as a STRAIGHT man. His efforts to prove to the world that he was in fact not a homo included going as far as planning to record and publicize his first heterosexual experience against the wishes of his hypothetical partner. Whether Chris's former hatred for homosexuality stems from jealousy, as it did with his hatred for the XBox, is unknown.

The origin of this loyalty can be traced back to his childhood: [[Bob Chandler]], being a not-so-nice Southern gentleman, not only disliked homosexuals in the traditional bigoted manner, but suffered from frequent paranoid delusions regarding their role in his life. When Chris ran into trouble at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] Bob blamed the problems not only on the principal (who he was certain was a homosexual), but on the school board which, for reasons left unclear, he believed to be stacked with homosexuals who despised his family. Even the incredibly [[naïve]] Christian was capable of seeing that this was, at the very least, an exaggeration, if not a paranoid persecution fantasy<ref>Chris, on IRC, circa 21 January 2009.</ref>. Nevertheless, this kind of hatred and paranoia sunk into Chris's mind and was compounded by Bob's unfounded and bizarre belief that Chris's trolling originated with several homosexuals who he believed frequented [[the GAMe PLACe]].

Chris's feelings on lesbianism were more nuanced. While he still felt the Biblical injunction against same-sex coupling applies, scissoring was just too hot for him to condemn.

Everything changed in [[2014]] when Chris came out as a trans lesbian. He loosened his stance on sexuality, and he now considers himself to be part of the [[SLGBTQ|LGBT]] community. In 2018, the [[Idea Guys]] convinced him that he was [[bisexual]], giving his loyalty to the LGBTQ+ community completely.

==[[Axe]]==
{{quote|I respectfully and humbly request that on the package a statement li—such as "DESIGNED ONLY FOR STRAIGHT ORIENTED MEN"|[[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|Chris]]}}
Chris's loyalty to this multinational deodorant brand (called Lynx in the UK and [[PandaHalo|Australia]]) is a classic example of Chris taking advertising literally. Early commercials for the deodorant depicted women throwing themselves at men in a manner reminiscent of Chris's desire for women to approach him in public. Rather than seeing this as hyperbole, Chris seems to believe that the product may have this effect in reality. Obviously Axe has never worked as advertised for Chris, but he has maintained his status as a loyal customer for many years.

Axe is also an example of how Chris considers the products he buys an integral component of his identity. As a loyal Axe customer, he was deeply disturbed when he was told that Axe was popular in the gay community, and he felt the need to use [[YouTube]] to [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|request that the Unilever Corporation]] use labels to specifically forbid homosexuals from using their products. Chris clearly took the marketing towards heterosexual men literally.

==[[McDonald's]] vs. [[Burger King]]==
{{quote|Tea for a dollar, in a Large Cup, at McDonalds; go Dollar-Menuaires!|[[IRC (24 October 2008)|Chris, plugging his favorite restaurant to the trolls.]]}}
[[Image:Burgerking.jpg|thumb|left|[[Chris and cinematography|An example of Chris's brilliant camerawork]].]]
Chris is a lifelong acolyte of McDonald's and thus dislikes its main competitor, Burger King. McDonald's is a major component of Chris's life. He eats a significant percentage of his meals at the popular fast-food restaurant, considers it the perfect location for a first date, and features it as a location in several issues of Sonichu. One of his most cherished and sickening fantasies involves having sex with his sweetheart in the handicapped bathroom of the local McDonald's. Chris has little love for Burger King, although he certainly never mentioned refusing to eat the food when dragged there by his father, who preferred it to McDonald's. Bob and Chris apparently did have some dispute about coupons with the manager of their local Burger King, resulting in Chris's bizarre attempt to get his trolls to troll the manager by creating an article on the CWCki. Chris has never mentioned having any strong positive or negative feelings toward [[Wendy's]] before his brief stint as an employee, and seems not to hold animosity toward the chain as a whole despite being fired from his local store after about a month.

Some time in 2012 Chris seemed to have turned on McDonald's, urging people to avoid the Forest Lakes location as he believes he has been discriminated against due to his autism and foul mouth. But in [[2013]], he plugged it on [[Facebook]]: ''Eat Healthy with Premium McWraps, Apple Slices and Tea.'' (Note that McWraps contain up to 620 calories, and the tea 220. And even the apple slices have been found to be [http://jezebel.com/5934390/mcdonaldss-apple-slices-recalled-because-theyre-crawling-with-disease crawling with ''Listeria''].)

==Coke and Pepsi==
Surprisingly, Chris does not appear to have specific long-term loyalty in this classic example of a nonexistent choice. He has been known to drink both, but claims that Sonichu drinks only [[CWC Cola]], a variant of Pepsi with a [[Semen|special ingredient]]. At one point he supported a boycott of Pepsi due to its alleged "gay-friendliness." He has been known to hoard My Coke Rewards points; in the Ivy Q&A, Ivy describes his becoming miffed at having to use his points to buy a different version of a song he already owned to fulfill Ivy's request for a video. One might think that a few points are a trifling thing when sweet, sweet [[china]] is the potential reward, but then one probably isn't Chris.
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