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Talk:Saga

2012-10-08T21:13:21Z

Germanicus: /* Second Exile saga? */ new section

Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
*i think a visual representation of the sagas would greatly improve the article. a vertical, multi-part image would work quite well, i think, but all ideas are welcome. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 17:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
:*A visual representation would be awesome, I'm just not an artsy kind of guy to do that :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:53, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Oh, maybe Cogs was thinking like a timeline with shadded parts to indicate sagas and show the overlaps. Very good idea, even I could do that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:17, 20 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I'll start compiling images for each section. I'll try my best anyway. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:49, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
==Changes==
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

==Timeline==
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good.
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

==Gregg Mays saga==
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)

==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
===Actually...===
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]

*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==

I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Vanessa Saga==

My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== more saga sum up images ==

we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others
[[image:Picture_4.png]]

== Tito saga ==

'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''

Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==IRL Saga?==

It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Flipnote Hatena saga ==

Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Saga?==

Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

==Missing Sagas==
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==On Sagas==
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki.

What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.

So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it.

I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

==The Lawsuit Saga?==
Should we separate most recent and ongoing events from Tomgirl Saga? Since Chandlers' law troubles, not Chris crossdressing interest, are main theme here. [[User:Hasharin|Hasharin]] 17:22, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
* Technically, the lawsuits would be part of the Game Place saga, right? [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:26, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Individual Saga pages ==

I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

== Second Exile saga? ==

Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

Clover and Snoopy

2012-08-03T20:17:11Z

Germanicus: Created page with "Clover and Snoopy are Chris's new dogs. Like Patti, they are beagles. Their adoption is the first new development since the court case."

Clover and Snoopy are Chris's new dogs. Like Patti, they are beagles. Their adoption is the first new development since the court case.

Talk:June 2012

2012-06-21T03:24:32Z

Germanicus: Needs more links

== Needs more links ==

Can we have a link to Mr. Johnson's refutation?--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 20:24, 20 June 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Chris and health

2012-05-12T02:22:43Z

Germanicus:

Hey we should add a "gallery of fatness" to the bottom of the page with pictures of his horrible fatness.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 19:01, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
*That's not such a bad idea, I suppose. What would be best is if you could make them show how much he has ballooned over the years. [[User:Dormiebasne|Dormiebasne]] 21:20, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
**That is an even better idea--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 23:09, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
*** Damn, I wish he was one of those people who took a photo of himself once a day. Then we could make an animation. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Moved the gallery of hair. --[[User:Garfield|Garfield]] 03:14, 25 July 2009 (CEST)
*Cool!--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 16:50, 29 July 2009 (CEST)

In Kacey's recollection of her date with Chris, she mentioned how he would sweat profusely just by walking. Where in the article should I add that? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 21:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== Need to do ==
*Probably move the hair to Sonichu Girls or just make a new page for it, I think it warrants its own page because it also demonstrates MEXICAN SONICHU and poor Spanish
*Also, incorporate chris's coke habits (the drink) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n2bjtmemyyj [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:33, 29 September 2009 (CEST)

== Chris and Strength? ==

Chris seems to suffer form delusions that he's really strong and a good fighter. I'd go into more depth except that I'm not really strong nor a good fighter. All I know is that he's worse at both than me. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 06:26, 13 October 2009 (CEST)

== Weird section ==

The article currently says: "''Chris has probably never had any regular exercise since leaving high school, and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. It has also left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos.''" Now, I'm not a medical professional or anything, but I'm pretty sure exercise level doesn't have much to do with skin color. The second sentence should probably be moved or at least clarified.
*No, I think that's more or less sun. Trust me, if you can get him to push carts during the summer at some Wal-Mart or whatever, his skin'll look a million times better. Of course, we're talking about Chris, who thinks item stockers in retail are "heavyweights".--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 20:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I have edited it as such:''"Since he barely leave his house and focus his time on playing videogames, his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos."'' I hope it will please Mr. Anonymous... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

==So when WAS the last time Chris took a shower?==
Seriously. What was the exact date of Chris's last shower? Considering how much he's divulged about his life it shouldn't be hard to aquire this information. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 13:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:*It's not as simple as you think. First, Chris is not the type of camera-whore who would record this. Then, He's in [[Homos|straight]] denial about this as you can read it in the article. Personally, my out-of-nowhere guess would be once a week or when the itching would became impossible to endure. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:** If a guy is said to be smelling like rotten watermelon or rotting fish in the sun, he's probably not even showering once a MONTH. Has anybody actually ASKED him? [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
:***Do you think he would listen? Chris had learned over the years that making over-the-top claims and giving assurances of all sorts would allow him to avoid doing any action. So, if we ask him, be sure that he will repeat that he showers daily even if flies drop dead around him due to the stench. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
:****I've been brushing up on my psychology and according to Professor Jean M. Twenge of San Diego University in her book "The Narcissism Epidemic" It illustrates that Narcissists are extremely fragile to criticism and with his autism and child like personality it would be no surprise if chris chan has spent several months/days without showering (just look at that brownish crust on his neck) And I imagine that even if he does he probably doesn't shower thoroughly enough to get rid of his...err aroma.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==Is he in danger of developing diabetes?==

Its just speculation on my part but with a 60 ounces of coke a day habit and whatever other high sugar foods he is eating combined with his obesity as well as the possible hypertension make me wonder if he is at risk. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
* It's probably very possible. I mean, the sugar content in McDonald's is high, and in even a 330ml can of Coke (11fl oz. approx.) there is about 60% of an adult's daily sugar allowance.. Maybe if we try and get information from him that we can cross-reference to a list of diabetes symptoms, such as exceptional thirst, dry mouth and frequent urination. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 17:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
** Could I maybe send him a letter leading him on to list any of these symptoms in operation Mailbag?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
*** Chris is at high risk for pretty much everything that obesity can cause.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
**** Chris is at a higher risk for everything he ignores. Right now, I still think he's on a higher risk of suffering a bad case of staph infection than anything else. He got no notion of hygiene, his immune system is crushed by his lifestyle and he's living in a dump. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*****Forget staph; he's at risk for freaking leprosy. [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 08:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*It wouldn't be surprising if he had diabetes already. Have you seen his complexion? Early age spots are a possible sign of diabetes and that combined with the fact that he gets tired easily makes me believe that he might already have diabetes. PS I'm a newfag with wikis so I hope this works.
** Protip. Sign your comments by putting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comment, so we all know you are AFK4Life. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 09:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*** The reason I suggested a letter was so that we could get a confirmation about the liklyhood of him having diabetes. Although it is probably true. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]] 10:25, 26 Febuary 2010 (UTC)
****This will fail in two distinctive ways; not only he barely take notice of the unpleasant letters in the mailbags but he's also certain that he's the living example of what a healthy man looks like. This being said, I will take great pleasure in knowing he would have to stab himself with a syringe again and again due to a disease caused by his fat ass. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
***** However, considering that Chris is more interested in spending his tugboat money on video games and sex toys, it's more likely that he will fall into a diabetic coma because he didn't want to spend the money on urgent medical supplies. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
****** I will have to disagree with you on this. I am ready to bet that the moment Chris will need insulin or any other medication, not only the said medication will be brought to him freely by the glorious state of Virginia but he will also be followed by a social worker. We have to include the fact that Chris took medication before. In the [[Autism papers]], it is mentioned that he took paxil for four years. So, yes, he can follow a regiment of drugs. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

That's another thing that bothers me--why was he on Paxil? I hear that it treats two things--depression and excessive urination. Either way I want to know what prompted it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
* Interestingly enough, paxil has been known in some paitents to cause outbursts of anger: http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=19&m=203440
:It is mainly prescribed to treat depression, but is also occasionally prescribed to individuals who complain of extreme stress. It is possible that the lumberjack and snorlax got Chris a prescription thinking it would mellow him out, or it may be that Chris has been very depressed and the paxil was specifically prescribed to him for his depression. Considering his goals in life, and his chances of achieving them, it is quite likely (even with Chris's limited mental foresight) that he has realized that his goals are almost certainly unachievable, and thus he is depressed. [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:25, 14 June 2010 (EST)
::It is interesting to see when Chris started taking paxil. If we refer ourselves to the Autism paper (Circa 2004), it tells us that the ManChild was on that medication for the last 4 years. This bring us to the end of his High-School years and his enrolment at the PVCC. There's a possibility that it was suggested to Chris's parents to put him on meds to help him with the transition from one setting to another. After all, autistics love patterns and the loss of those patterns can cause stress and bouts of 'Tard-Rage. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

== Inability to Recognize Faces ==

I think it should be mentioned that the inability to recognize faces is a very common trait of Autism. The fact that Chris cannot recognize faces confirmed (to me) that he definitely has a form of autism before those psychiatric evaluations were released.

Also, a lack of smell-sensory is another symptom of autism. This is definitely far from the only reason that Chris never showers, and not all Autistic people lack a sense of smell, but still I thought I should mention it.(Wiki newfag here; I hope this works.) --[[User:Windyshoot|Windyshoot]] 09:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

At first,I read inability to recognize feces. LOL! --[[User:Kawaiidesubakachan|Kawaiidesubakachan]] 02:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Im autistic and i remember faces more than names.[[user:MrMaXimo|MrMaXimo]] 12:45, 28 2010 (PST)

A lack of facial recognition is fairly common, or facial confusion. I believe it tends to be more of an issue for quick introductions, though, not anyone who there's been an extended interaction with. The second part is, however, just my own experience with the 'sperg and should NOT be taken as a universal.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 19:42, 23 February 2011 (PST)

== Chris's obesity ==

In response to to how much weight chris gained during his apearence in the pimp my ride video, someone in the talk section asked for a comparison between chris's breast and those of a big chested woman. after combining the image below i noticed that chris has gained so much weight that his man-boobs have become massive. what i'm trying to ask is if the image could be included in the chris and obesity section. [[User:MoarLurk]]
[[file:Compare.jpg|300px|right]]

:I made that image with pretty much that purpose. Also if you notice, chris's boobs are bigger.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::I suspect that Chris has a hormonal imbalance. Even with his corpulent physique, his breasts are disproportionately large, and his nipples look like pepperonis. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what he has. This is typical of gynecomastia. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 06:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::The though of Chris's nipples...cannot unsee.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::::We have pictures of them, remember? We've seen the man screwing a blow-up doll. How can his nipples be close to that disturbance? --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 16:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Anything involving the naked body of that man is of the deepest bowels of hell or Rhyel.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

== Hormonal imbalance ==
i've beggining to suspect that chris suffers from hormonal imbalance, it would explain his high pitched voice and the overgrown mantits and acne at that age. Poor hygiene can explian the acne a bit. Obesity can explain the mantits, but to Chris's level, it has to be the hormones, I think he has an exess of strogen in his system.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

:*Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. ... but it could be testosterone. My understanding is that the human body can only tolerate so much testosterone; any excess is converted into estrogen (or oestrogen). Given that in addition to his [[Collosal|Collosal Chris Chan]] manboobs Chris appears to display uncontrollable bouts of anger ("Shouting loud enough to wake the dead" over a slightly overpriced cup of coffee), has great difficulty keeping his hands [[Kacey|off]] [[Megan|women]], constantly obsesses about sex and generally acts like a horny 16 year old when he's 28 seems to suggest that, perhaps, he has a large amount of testosterone in his system and the excess is being turned into estrogen. An outside observer with absolutely no idea who Chris is might even suggest steroid abuse (before anyone jumps in with 'but Chris is weak!', steroids don't make you STRONG, they're just basically horse urine which is huge amounts of testosterone. It bulks you up a great deal, but if you take steroids and don't work out, you get really fat and get huge mantits). It's times like these I wish the mailbags were still going, so we could ask Chris directly if he was taking steroids. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

::*I'm sure there may be a hormonal imbalance, but I think the cause may well be Klinefelter's. Chris-Chan fits a fair amount of the general symptoms, and I'm surprised it hasn't been further investigated. Small/malformed penis and testicles, slowly developing and altogether missing male secondary sex characteristics, the extremely high voice, the suggestions of gender confusion and sexual orientation difficulties, not to mention the prominent breasts. Those are developed much more than one would expect for someone at his fitness level, despite how low it is. Of course, since nobody's bothering to run fertility tests on him, confirmation on such a thing would be VERY difficult. But at this point, XXY makes more sense to me than anything.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 03:56, 20 February 2011 (PST)

:::No. He grows facial hair easily, and the associated hypogonadism means lower decreased testicular hormone/endocrine function, not smaller genitals. His obesity and autism explain pretty much all of his symptoms. Chris's voice isn't especially high, except when he freaks out. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:44, 20 February 2011 (PST)

::::No, it isn’t Klinefelter's. It’s already been addressed in detail in one of the speculation topics, so to spare a TLDR I’ll be brief. Not only is there no evidence pointing to it, but his phenotype is incompatible with the condition. His integumentary problems: his acne & bad complexion, androgenic baldness, fat distribution pattern(fat in the gut first is a testosterone induced thing), shows that his body has no shortage of testosterone. Since he has that much fat, some of it is bound to go and cause manboobs, that’s pretty much like any guy will get when they cross over to obesity.(The fat means more horomones & some of the exess T will be converted to estrogen, but obviously not enough to overpower the testosterone turned DHT's effect on his skin& hair) Also since the latest molecular research into autism shows that estrogen acts as a promoter for several genes that are linked to protecting against autism while testosterone methilates them, it’s unlikely Chris has ever been estrogen dominant, and it’s likely he was exposed to too much testosterone in utero. It’s not <del>Lupus</del> Klinefelter's.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:25, 21 February 2011 (PST)

==Wes Iseli==

This article mentioned an non-sourced comment from Wes Iseli about Chris's funk during his PVCC days. I know it's not an official statement, but does any one know where or who that came from? ---[[User:ConCat|ConCat]] 17:17, 28 August 2010 (PDT)

== WeighIn ==

Should we add the new information about his weight we learned from this new video? We should also probably add something about why he must weigh 216 despite having the body we all see. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:31, 26 October 2010 (PDT)

== Page Blanked? ==

Why did youdonttellmewhattodo blank the page? Is he trying to troll us, or is there an actual reason for this?--[[User:Rena-kun|others > ;0; ;0; ;0; ^-^ < Rena-kun (me)]] 20:05, 17 July 2011 (PDT)

== Klinefelter ==

Could it be that Chris also suffers from the conditition known as Klinefelter Syndrome?
He has many of the symptoms:
*Unnatural large breasts
*Narrow bones
*Weak muscles
*Small genitalia
*High-pitched voice
*Little body and facial hair
*(Mild?) mental retardation (or, at the very least, below-average intelligence)
*Small hands and feet
*Obesity
I think it's pretty likely Chris has this discease. Maybe on top of other things, but it would explain a lot of his physical characteristiscs and behaviour I'd say. [[User:Charles|Charles]] 02:39, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== Broken source ==
The link to the first source seems to be broken, Chris' email responses in the linked "mailbag" are definitely not from Chris.--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 18:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

== When was the last time Chris went to a doctor? ==

Seriously. He's obese,rarely showers, most likely doesn't brush his teeth, and lives in a house infested with bugs that left Bob covered in so many bites he had to be hospitalized. The aforementioned might happen to live off blood, and could pass on diseases to hosts. It's highly unlikely that he has been vaccinated recently as he would rather stay home and play video games (considering Chris rarely leaves his house, however, this might not be too big of a problem), possible vitamin D deficiency from going outside, and unless Chris used protection, he may have an STD. How can any doctor allow this?--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 19:22, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

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Germanicus:

==To do==
*add references to the phrase "virgin with rage" in Chris's works
*note how he associates violence with sex (he's a "virgin with rage", sex is described in "gory" details, etc.)
*Also how he masturbates or how he drew that picture of Megan to quell violent urges so he doesn't "fly off the handle." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:12, 8 June 2009 (CEST)
*Another thing Chris stole, that line about hormones slam banging is from the first episode of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Good job Chris, you can't even be a horny creep without stealing something. [[User:Admiral Klank|Admiral Klank]] 20:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==Views on virginity==
In my opinion, the section could be expanded with statements Chris made about virginity in general and the properties he connects with losing one's virginity.
*He stated several times that just about everyone else loses their virginity in their teens, seemingly unaware of reality and statitics regarding this, for example that 4% of Americans will die a virgin or that 10% of males leaving higher education are still virgins, not to mention about 1 in 3 18-year olds of both sex. He might be simply unaware of this, ignore statistics in his self-centered view or because of the implication that he most likely will be one of the 4%(unless he goes to a prostitute).
*This page could also be linked to the one where he describes his fantasy-scenario of losing it to PandaHalo.
*He also implies that experiencing the "Power of Sex" will instantly transform his character, as he justifies his poor social skills regarding chatting up woman with "How should I know, I'm a Virgin" in the VivitheG-chat. There are probably more references of this kind out there.
*He probably also thinks that it would prove him being hetero. Some people on the autism spectrum experience difficulties identyfying their gender preferences unless they had some kind of physical evidence (I just read of a case of a sexually deviant autist who was sexually assaulted by an older man he regarded as a father figure and therefore concluded he had to be bisexual).
Actually, that would also explain his staunt view on male homosexuality to some extent, because he can not be entirely sure of his sexual identity unless there is something to "prove" it, also evidenced by his "I'm heterosexual" video.
I just want to know your opinions before including and referency stuff.[[User:Miela|Miela]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== On Chris touching Megan ==

There are a couple of needed citations about which specific parts of Megan's anatomy Chris inappropriately touched. It is entirely possible that Chris touched both Megan's hair and Megan's shoulder without her consent.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's hair is [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_annoyed_and_creeped_out|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''The way you went off on Nina because she patted me on the head was very rude and uncalled for. Just because someone else has made physical contact with me doesn't give you the authority to do so''". It could be assumed from this that Chris, at some point, tried to mimic Nina by patting Megan on the head.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's shoulders is [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Pinned_against_the_wall|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''So PLEASE don't touch me anymore ok? I don't like it! And last wed you really had me pinned against the wall''". What comes to mind when thinking about someone pinning someone else against a wall is for the first person to put his hands in the other person's shoulder area. However, given Chris's weight and clumsiness, it can be argued that he pinned her without the need of using his hands.

The notion of touching her shoulders can also be supported by Lucas' [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_and_Megan|response]]: "''He was constantly putting his arm around her and shit and it got to the point where she would take refuge in the midst of our group of bros''". Given the relative height between Megan and Chris it is possible that he put his arm around her and rested his hand on her shoulder. Once again, given Chris's peculiar body language and general clumsiness this can't be taken as fact.

So, even thought it is quite probable that Chris touched Megan in those specific spots, it can't be demonstrated as fact given the sources available. I would recommend to rephrase the sentence to a more general description of his inappropriate touching and add Chris's [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Don.27t_kiss_me.2C_bro|attempt to kiss Megan]]. --[[User:Galford|Galford]] 18:32, 12 January 2012 (PST)

* O.o --[[User:Shefap2|Shefap2]] 15:59, 13 January 2012 (PST)

==Virgin No More?==

Is there any way we can confirm this? I mean, on the one hand, ''holy shit''. On the other, it's something so farfetched and shocking that it just doesn't seem possible! I mean, yes, we got a Facebook page, but that could easily be faked. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 10:13, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this was just another one of Chris' plans to stop the trolls, hoping that we'll stop picking on him once he's a true and honest non virgin. I mean really
what are the chances of Chris getting laid and by a Cherokee at that; the thing he's been sperging over since god knows when? --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 20:29, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:If it was part of Chris' plan to stop the trolls, he'd have told the trolls. Really, the reason he did it was because he thought he was going to die and he didn't want to die a virgin. Now, really, Chris is terrible at phrasing and a hooker is going to feed him bullshit stories. She's probably not actually a Cherokee. Chris /believes/ she was a Cherokee. There's a big difference between the two. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:19, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

The update regarding his "partner" informing him of how good his "large" penis felt should be an immediate red flag. --[[User:ItLurksInTheWalls|ItLurksInTheWalls]] 20:43, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
: According to some links to Cogsdev's twitter... Chris paid a prostitute about $250 to have sex with him (according to Cogsdev's sources/contacts). If Cogsdev says it's true... it's probably true...SO, that leaves us with the probably that Chris has finally lost his virginity... but it was to a prostitute, and I'm pretty sure that's cheating.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

A $250 hooker? Jeez, it must have been a mess down there.

Note how he actually said dick instead of duck. Im calling fake.
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 10:41, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

:He said dick in his famous [[CWC%27s_Second_Message#Transcript]]. Plus, the screencap isn't fake, if that's what you're saying. I took it myself. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 10:51, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

== It may have been a hack ==

Apparently 45 minutes ago Chris Chan via his PS Vita released a statement on how trolls said he bought a hooker.

http://789chan.org/cwc/src/133429340253.png

I completely agree with this. The fact that Chris is so "It put the last guy to shame" and especially the "We hit it off and exchanged numbers". Oh brother, I'm amazed he didn't resort to the "We were pre-ordering LittleBigPlanet" story yet again, a la Chloe.

In a week, no doubt this will be just another bogus lie thought up by Chris. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:34, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

*It was not a lie. When Chris lied about Chloe, he was lying to all of his trolls. Why would he lie to his circle of friends? Furthermore, Cogs confirms that the screencaps uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:40, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Chris has no real friends and he knows the trolls keep up with his Facebook. Either way, I'll believe it when I see more solid proof, right now it's just all speculation.

Not like it matters anyway; any idiot can go hire a whore; though my congrats that he obviously found one absolutely dedicated to her job, if bought all that BS she was spouting. And even touching Chris, let alone fucking him; she should get a medal. Though, with this new screencap with him screaming that it wasn't a prostitute, then sorry, that screams BS to me.

So Chris just met a random stranger who wanted to fuck him and they "hit it off". Uh huh, sure. I'm more willing to believe the hooker story, not a normal girl; at least not one without severe metal retardation. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:46, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*Please read my post again. I said all images uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit. By that, I mean only the initial announcement and Chris's witch hunt through his friends list are real. The third one was deleted after being uploaded, as it is fake. Furthermore, Cogs has confirmed that everything Jimmy uploaded is legit. This should be all the proof you need. Chris did in fact purchase a hooker and have sex. The only thing you should speculate about is whether or not he shat himself in the process.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:53, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm still wary, sorry. Even these apparent official screencaps (on the page) have numerous contradictory claims or red flags.
"We did it in her room"
Chris actually traveled to meet a woman? Unlikely. Do hookers use their own private rooms for sex? Don't think so.

And this "We hit it off and exchanged numbers" just bugs the hell out of me. Like I said, he either got the best hooker in the business (ie, one who knows how to lie like a pro to all her loser clients) or it wasn't a hooker. And I'm sorry, but if it wasn't a hooker, I can't believe it. I need more solid proof than just "Cogs confirmed it." Doesn't that mean all they confirmed is that Chris actually wrote those? Not the fact that he's lying? You know... I need more proof, which will come in a few days. Until them, all I'm saying is, I'm highly skeptical about it.

A prostitute, I can believe, but there's so many contradictory statements that don't say prostitute, so we'll see... --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 09:02, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*There's a difference between "travel out of state"(every fake girlfriend ever) and "drive for 20 minutes to an arbitrary location"(hookers). For one, Chris can sneak out and visit a hooker without Barb noticing anything off. Hookers do not own their own private rooms, yes, but remember that Chris is terrible at phrasing things. By "her room" he probably means "the hotel room we arranged to meet at". Simple. And it really isn't "pro" lying to tell a delusional fat nerd that his deformed penis isn't horrible. If anything it's standard business practice as far as hookers are concerned. Cogs confirming it should be all the proof you need. Please point out any other "contradictory" statements, because I don't see any.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:11, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

* That looks like a fake screenshot to me. I know that updates on Facebook don't usually have an indent where "45 minutes ago" is. Plus, the text looks different from the other screenshots. Personally, if Chris really did say that, it's yet another lie, he already tried to get a prostitute before when she hung up on him. And why would Chris take offense to trolls saying that he lost his virginity, anyway? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 15:53, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

* Well, now we know it's fake, Chris is bragging about it on Facebook. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 07:39, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

* In Chris's latest Facebook update, he states that no one will ever find out who the half Cherokee woman is. He does give us an "inkling" that "she's somewhere on the backpage." What exactly does that mean? Back page of the phone book? Or does it refer to somewhere on his Facebook wall? --[[User:Violettheory|Violettheory]] 21:29, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
::It's referring to [http://charlottesville.backpage.com/ this]. It looks like it's a place for business transactions and its has an "escorts" section, so it's basically confirming that it was a hooker. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 21:41, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

== Why are we assuming that Chris is telling the truth? ==

He has lied about his first sexual encounter before. Remember "Chloe?" --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 08:57, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

If you read above, Cogs tweeted that he bought a hooker.

When did he ever say that he had sex with Chloe? All I remember is Chris claiming that they had a date at Taco Bell and "kissed deeply", that's it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:04, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, he's never lied about having sex. Plus, like I've said before, this event wasn't for other people. Chris had sex because he didn't want to die a virgin. Chris thought he was going to die in jail so he thought he was going to die very soon. So he had to lose his virginity. It actually happened.

Now, although it actually happened, I'm not claiming that 100% of Chris' post is accurate. A hooker is going to tell him bullshit. Also he's really shitty at describing things. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:23, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
: He says that Chloe WAS his "Virgin-Taker"... I guess people assumed that this meant he said he had sex. I'm kinda thinking, that with Chris being as shitty at describing things as he is, meant that she was going to be, what we would consider, "The One". Though, I'm still not sure if he had sex. If he did... well she wasn't free and this woman (or man...) was dedicated to her job...--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:42, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
:: Oh, right, I forgot about that. Heh, and a lot of people keep saying that the hooker really earned whatever Chris paid or whatever because of how gross Chris is. I don't think people realize that hookers have to deal with johns a lot worse than Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 10:56, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
::: I'm not in on that twitter stuff, so I don't know where to find these updates. But what about the image linked to here? Chris is clearly upset at the notion of people claiming he is no longer a virgin. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 17:48, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

= Does Barb know about this? =

I know, stupid question. I'm just curious to know what'll happen in Barb finds out. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 08:03, 14 April 2012 (PDT)
:I'm assuming she doesn't know or doesn't care. 1) She has more stuff to worry about right now 2) I believe Chris answers the home phone now that Mr. Chandler is gone 3) Chris gets the mail and has admitted that he sometimes takes mail addressed to his parents. So, it'd be hard for someone to tell her and if they did... well I don't think she'll care that her son finally had sex. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:39, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

= New note from Chris about the "experience". =

I was just looking through his notes and found [https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=269167789844374 this] where he confirms (or further pushes a lie?) that he has had sex. --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 13:46, 14 April 2012 (PDT)
*Never mind, I just found out that somebody had already beaten me to it by posting it to the [[Facebook]] article. --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 13:49, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

== Holy crap I had an idea ==

You know how prostitution is illegal in Virgina? And how Chris already has legal problems? And how Chris's virginity was bugging him for a long time, and losing it was the best moment of his life? If Chris is telling the truth, then some troll can just call the police and rat him out. Has anyone else thought of this? Is anyone actively trolling Chris right now?--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 16:00, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

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