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Talk:DoopieDoOver

2017-09-12T20:55:04Z

Hagibor: /* Doopie Dude-Over? */

== Edits ==

===Hurtful Truth Level===

Should the write-up about Doopie from the socialization article be transferred here? If so, maybe that section could be modified to be about his interactions with Dolan's staff, like the MLP VAs section? Also, what is planned for the Planet Dolan article? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:03, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

===PsychoNerd054===

To be perfectly honest, I think you should keep a majority of the Doopie stuff from the socialization article in that article, that article is only meant to explain Chris' issues when socializing with people and give examples of such issues. I'd say go into a bit more detail for this article when it comes to Chris socializing with Doopie.

As for the Planet Dolan article, for now, I was thinking that article should be reserved to Chris talking to the rest of the Planet Dolan staff as well as a bit of information on Sonichu 13. There will be more in the "In the Comics" section as soon as Sonichu 13 comes to be.

BTW, on an unrelated note, I'm planning out a new Chris and... article called "Chris and oration", since Chris has now gotten into this tendency of making petty speeches whenever he needs to justify his actions or his logic or when he feels like he needs to move people. What do you say to that?

===Hurtful Truth Level===

*Sounds good. What sort of examples do you have in mind for the Oration article? Do those fall under the scope of empathy? I thought about writing an article on empathy that would have examples of him lecturing on it, like with [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/February_2017_Facebook_Posts#Lecture_on_empathy this post] and examples of him failing to empathize (like pestering Cole for money after insulting him}. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:33, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

===PsychoNerd054===

{{quoteboxred| What sort of examples do you have in mind for the Oration article?}}

The examples I was thinking of were as follows:

*a couple of Chris' political videos, especially the ones on Donald Trump.
*a few Manchester High assignments where oration was a requirement.
*some examples of his lecturing from social media sites.
*the [[Autism Tutorial]] he made is also chock full of oration so we could also use that.
*Maybe we could put a bit of Sonic Boom protest in there too, there are just so many different examples we could use for this article.

I was also thinking that the following articles should be put under the See Also section:

*Chris and politics
*Chris and English
*Chris and socialization
*Chris and writing
*Pmurt
*Manchester High Leaks
*Autism Tutorial

{{quoteboxred| Do those fall under the scope of empathy?}}

I'm not exactly sure of that since Chris' speeches can range in topics. And I'm not exactly sure if Chris' lack of empathy really needs its own article, considering the fact that it's kind of already explained in "Chris and death" and other articles outside of the Chris and... series. I'm not against the idea, but I really am not sure if the empathy article is necessary.

I've started working on the article --> (https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_and_oration)

== Quotes ==

There are a lot of tweets from Chris to Doopie, so reposting them here in full will take up a lot of article space. How about using the reference tag to link to [[2017 tweets|the tweet page]] instead and just repost the best of the quotes here? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

===PsychoNerd054===

That could work, I think we should leave the first one though, since that's what's started the Doopie Fiasco in the first place.

*Agreed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:38, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

===PsychoNerd054===

On second thought, do you think we can put this article aside for now? I mean, other than the fact that Doopie has become troll bait at this point, nothing exactly outstanding has really happened between Doopie and Chris to even mention yet. How about we work on other articles such as your Socialization article, my Oration article, and the Planet Dolan article, for now, I think the Planet Dolan article needs a bit more attention. In fact, this so called "Doopie Saga" might not even become a real saga at all.

*I agree. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:19, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

==Topics==

Hey, does anyone have an idea as to what else we can add to this article? ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

*The only other things I can think of are the info on the Patreon pledge/commission, and Doopie's quote explaining she knew about Chris, both of which are on the Socialization page. Is there enough content to keep this as an article? It's kind of unwieldy that the biggest section on this article is on the ween who briefly impersonated Doopie. I think we should consider merging this article with the Doopie section on Socialization, at least until something more interesting happens. I think the Socialization article could work like [[Chandler Cats]] or [[Minor Family Members]] - an overview about the subject, followed by sections about individual members. The DoopieDoOver page could be redirected to that. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:19, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

*Agreed, to be perfectly honest, I don't quite like where this article is heading. Currently, it's a disorganized mess full of disconnected events. While we're at it, why don't we put some of the stuff in this article into the Planet Dolan article? Let's just wait until say the end of the year. For now, just put the merge tag on the article itself. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] 4:31, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

*On second thought, I think there is enough content for an article. More stuff to be added - Chris knowing Doopie has a BF, yet using "darling" to refer to her (5 times so far), and the paid drawing she did for him on Patreon. I'll revise this article further today. Also, I think the Liquid Doopie section should be moved to a separate article (Misc E-mails or something) - it doesn't add anything to the focus of thie article and could just be summarized briefly instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 15:06, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

*Not to mention, I think these Doopie shenanigans are getting closer to becoming an actual saga, since some crazy shit has been happening between Chris and Doopie.

== Shoot Down ==

Is there really any reason to make the shoot down post its own section at this point? As far as I am concerned, it seems best to just keep it inside the Twitter section. Any objections? I wanted to make this post just so that I can understand the logic behind the change. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]

*My reason was to keep the flow of events organized. First they interacted over Twitter, then Chris commissioned her for art, started calling her "Darling," and finally she shot him down. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:23, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

*I see, and that was a pretty good change you've made now that I think of it, it illustrates Chris' descent to madness with Doopie pretty well.- [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]

== Emails ==

I'll run the screencaps of emails Doopie posted through Google Sheets to pull the text from them for inclusion in the article. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:13, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

==Doopie Dude-Over?==

I hear tell that Doopie's trans. Is there any truth to the rumor that Chris' new "gal pal" has a pickle?
[[User:Jerkop421]]

*Nah. It's just bullshit from ED. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:09, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Have you seen his hole or are you making assumptions? Girls don't have thick necks like doopie or have an adam's apple

[[User:Hagibor|Hagibor]] ([[User talk:Hagibor|talk]]) 20:55, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

DoopieDoOver

2017-08-10T20:26:08Z

Hagibor:

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{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
| colspan="2" | [[Image:DoopieDoOver.png|300px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |DoopieDoOver
|-
| '''Name'''
| Danielle Pitts<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-07-19-17-doopie-commission.32399/page-2#post-2438376</ref>
|-
| '''AKA'''
| Dani Willow
|-
| '''Date of Birth'''
| 27 May 1994 (age {{Age|1994|5|27}})
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Female
|-
| '''Nationality'''
| American
|-
| '''Race'''
| [[Chris and race|White]]
|-
|}

{{quote|"Is chris chan even real?"|Doopie asking an understandable question in a May 31, 2016 tweet<ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/737793615259394049</ref>}}

{{quote|Darling|Chris, addressing Doopie. Repeatedly.<ref name=darling>[[July 2017 tweets]], [[July 2017 Patreon posts]]</ref>}}

'''Danielle Pitts''' (nicknamed "'''DoopieDoOver'''" or "'''Doopie'''") is a voice actress/animator for the [[Planet Dolan]] YouTube channels. She also offers drawings for sale consisting of fan art and Child Porn. Chris appeared to consider her to be a [[gal pal]], whereas she thought of him as simply another customer. In August 2017, she blocked him after receiving negative attention from weens and getting creeped out by Chris's messages towards her.

== Prologue ==
[[File:Doopie react to cwc.png|thumb]]

Chris discovered the Planet Dolan channel in [[August 2016]] and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His first message to Doopie was on 7 March 2017 when she tweeted about her Borderline Personality Disorder and how it's affected the way she interacts with others. Chris, [[Autism|having completely missed the point of the entire post]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh|having]] [[Jerkop|judged]] [[Adam Stackhouse|so]] [[Pmurt|many]] [[Michael Snyder|people]] [[Jimmy Hill|in]] [[Trolls|the]] [[Megan Schroeder|past]], felt somewhat empathetic for Doopie, and made a misguided attempt to make her feel better by comparing her mental disorder with a bunch of people she's never met on the internet<ref>[[2017 tweets#Empathizing with BPD]]</ref>.

His social awkwardness in full display, he has tweeted to her on the subjects of poop<ref>[[2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref>, his hatred of online dating<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref>, and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt<ref>[[2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>.

Doopie knew about Chris prior to him becoming obsessed with her. She occasionally made fun of him on Lazycast, a podcast series she co-hosts<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/08-03-2017-we-can-not-let-ourselves-be-blinded-impulsively.28939/page-5#post-2129294</ref>, as recently as March 2017.

Once Chris started actively tweeting to her, starting in the spring of 2017, she started off by ignoring his messages.

On 11 April, she liked one of his tweets sympathizing with her stance against animal cruelty<ref>[[2017 tweets#Animal cruelty]]</ref>. Eventually, on 21 April, she decided to converse with Chris when he asked about her newly dyed hair. A swarm of [[weens]] promptly descended on them, and Doopie found herself in the position of defending Chris<ref>[[2017 tweets#Doopie defends Chris]]</ref>.

In July, she explained her opinion on Chris, mentioning that he had commissioned her for art and pledged to her Patreon.

{{quotebox|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.

(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}

== Art commissions ==
{{quote|I really had no choice. A paying customer is a paying customer, but I'm starting to regret it lol.|Doopie reacts to the fallout from being Chris's customer on 1 August 2017.<ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/892484212145627136</ref>}}

Around 22 June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-12-chris-argues-with-a-fool.32246/page-6#post-2426664</ref>. He pledged at the $50 tier<ref>[[Doopie E-mails]]</ref> and received a sketch of Rosechu as one of the offered rewards<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/7-27-doopies-patreon-sketch-for-chris.32596/</ref>.

He also paid her $25 for a separate commission to serve as a profile picture and liked it so much that he switched his profile icon on [[Facebook]], [[YouTube]], [[Twitter]] and [[Patreon]] to it. Ever since Doopie has first shared the picture with Chris, the drawing has been subject to many [[Parody|parodies]] defacing Chris in the picture, either by redrawing him as he actually appears IRL or by replacing Chris with another person such as [[Liquid Chris]].

Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for the exact amount of money, claiming that he needed it to help him and his mother<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>.

<center><gallery>
Image:Doopiedrawing.jpg|$25 commission
File:DoopieDrawing2.jpg
File:Christine C.png|Reward for $25 Patreon pledge
</gallery></center>

=== Porn ===

[[File: PornRequest.png|thumb|The request in question]]

On 1 August 2017, Chris began pledging to KittenBell - a Patreon account set up by Doopie to handle porn and Child Porn requests, while continuing his pledge to her primary account. He suggested a drawing of two [[MLP]] characters depicted as lesbians "makin' out and fondling/fingering." <ref>[[August 2017 Patreon posts#Request for cartoon porn]]</ref> More than likely, Doopie will never work on the project, seeing how Doopie wishes to break all connections with Chris.

=="Darling"==
[[File:Fanartdoopiereact.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction of Doopie's reaction.]]

After becoming Doopie's customer, Chris began to refer to her as "darling" multiple times over Twitter and once on Doopie's Patreon<ref name=darling/>. He does it in spite of knowing that Doopie is not a [[boyfriend-free girl]], which he learned on 16 May through a Planet Dolan video in which she talked about the success she had at online dating<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref>.

Opinion is divided on why Chris does this. Some think he believes Doopie is an attainable target for his [[love quest]], while others think that he is [[naive]] to how creepy he sounds and thinks "darling" is appropriate for a [[tomgirl]] to say in conversation. Chris has similarly used "dear" to address his mother<ref>[[Live Game Stream - C-Log 050012017-1]]</ref>, seemingly oblivious to the incestuous implications. Given that Chris has had sex dreams about his mother<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>, it might not bode well for his view of Doopie.

==Shot down==

{{quote|You don't know me, christine.|Doopie sets the record straight.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets#Doopie sets the record straight]]</ref>}}

{{quote|Yes. I don't totally know you, but you are a good person; like all I've listed here, y'all are girls and at least acquaintances up to friends. And that, to me, counts as much, because I am thankful to have you all in my life and communication circle. 😊🌸 Also, another V.I.Detail., I Care. And I wear my heart on my sleeve. ❤️🤳🏻
|Chris' response.}}

On 1 August, 2017, Chris tagged Doopie in celebration of National Girlfriend Day, listing her among all of the gal-pals he's met on the internet and real life. The day is an occasion meant for female friends to celebrate their special bond<ref>https://nationaldaycalendar.com/national-girlfriends-day-august-1/</ref>. Chris—in his typical, completely non-extrospective, fashion—failed to realize how sad and creepy it was to include Doopie, someone he knew only online via a client-artist relationship. If that wasn't inappropriate enough, Chris's subsequent tweets further unveiled an attraction toward Doopie—which appeared much stronger than previously expected. Doopie immediately protested, stating the obvious fact that she was a stranger to Chris. Despite this clear and unambiguous response, Chris happily disregarded it. Only partially agreeing with her, Chris went on to imply that he must have known her a little bit because he knew she was a good person. Chris then expressed his appreciation for her being in his circle of friends (again, ignoring her previous declaration to the contrary). Once again, Chris demonstrates his almost complete lack of social awareness.

However, despite his implied romantic attraction towards her, Doopie, having already known who Chris is, took it unsurprisingly well and only seemed to mention his heart on his sleeve in her next reply. Doopie, showing disgust towards Chris' skewed ideas of empathy, begins to scold Chris on his donation of his own money he could have used to support himself and Barb during the [[Financhu Crisis]]. Doopie allowed Chris to claim a refund of his Patreon pledges, which he initially declined.

== #HarassCWCdirectly and #DontHarassMe ==

{{main|HarassCWCdirectly}}

[[File:Doopie -DontHarassMe.jpg|thumb]]

After everything was said and done, and the weens had taken their naps, Chris unpromptedly uploaded a [[Captain's Log]], ordering all the [[trolls]] to [[BACK THE FUCK OFF]]. He shifted all the blame to the weens, believing they were the reason Doopie blatantly rejected him. Chris attempted to begin two hashtag campaigns, #HarassCWCdirectly and #DontHarassMe, pledging to protect the entire cast of Planet Dolan. He did this by encouraging the trolls to attack him instead. It's likely Chris did this simply to appear heroic to Doopie and to win over her heart again—despite that she never displayed any affection for him to begin with. 
Worse still, despite all of Chris' attempts at heroics and trying to be Doopie's salvation, for all his talk - the only thing Chris did was cowardly ban everyone he invited to troll him instead of Planet Dolan and Doopie which led to them being trolled twice as hard as a way to indirectly attack Chris. Some even took another route by spamming Chris' brother's Twitter with animated gifs from Chris' sex movies and making comments that Chris is under Cole's guardianship and Cole could care less what chris does, letting him go unmedicated and without a doctor's care to spam up the internet with his perversions. 

== Leaked e-mails ==

{{main|Doopie E-mails|Doopie Q&A}}

[[File:DoopieKiwiFarms.png|thumb]]

By 3 August, Chris' contact with Doopie had been severely reduced, due to her blocking him on Patreon and Twitter. When probed by a troll on 5 August, Chris gave this reply, suggesting that their relationship was not over yet:

{{quotebox|Doopie and I are not close yet, but that does not mean she is not my friend; "Not Your Friend" were Not her exact words, Troll.<ref>[https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/893880561663700992 Chris and Doopie, 5 August]</ref>}}

He also discussed the matter on Patreon:

{{quotebox|And you think I did Not know all that already? I've Learned from my past errors and mistakes. I do not violate women's space. Doopie is going through her recovery of the recent Harassment from You Trolls and Bullies. She liked my Kindness, and I am aware of her past making fun of me; I do not hold that against her. You Damn Trolls and Bullies Ruin Nearly Everything.<ref>[[August 2017 Patreon posts#Third Eye Heart Icon]]</ref>}}

Since Chris failed to get the obvious, Doopie temporarily unblocked him on 5 August to spell out that she is not his friend:

{{quoteboxgreen|I can't believe I had to unblock you to tell you this. I'm not your friend. I'm not ever interested in being your friend. Leave me alone. You were specifically a customer to me, and you took it too far. You creeped me out. Now please don't talk to, or about me, ever again. <ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/894003364135976961</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/894003570797826049</ref>}}

Later, fed up with Chris's constant unwanted praise and affection, Doopie decided to leak all of the private e-mails Chris has sent to her by making an account on the [[Kiwi Farms]]. The users on the site then began to ask her questions regarding her interactions with Chris, to which Doopie responded with some intriguing answers.

==NightStar2891==
{{main|NightStar2891}}
{{quote|Shut Up, Trolls; I know Doopie is temporarily on your side for now.|Chris, 7 August, ''still'' not getting it.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets]]</ref>}}

On 4 August, in response to Doopie blocking him over Twitter and asking him not to tweet about her again, Chris created a sockpuppet account to both follow Doopie and publicly defend his actions. On 7 August, Chris "allowed" his NightStar account to leak direct messages, held with his main CWCSonichu twitter account, in which he explained in further detail his motives and actions regarding Doopie, to a troll who then posted the messages to Kiwi Farms. It's possible that Chris did this in order for Doopie to see his side of the story, since he was aware she had joined the forum.

== In the Comic ==
[[File:Doopie on Sonichu 13 cover.jpg|thumb|First artwork of Doopie (brunette to the right of Chris, drawn after Doopie changed her hair color.)]]
She has appeared in Chris' upcoming [[Sonichu 13|Sonichu and Planet Dolan crossover comic]] on its cover, standing near Chris. The page was released on 29 May 2017, prior to Doopie blocking him from social media. The fate of the comic, and Doopie's place in it, remains unclear.

==Liquid Doopie==
[[File:Rej35W2.png|thumb|The fake profile.]]
On 21 July 2017, a ween made a fake Doopie Facebook account in order to befriend Chris and get a rise out of him.

Two days later, Chris had fallen for the ween and accepted a friend request. However, the account was disabled the same day, though a new one was created, which he also accepted a friend request from. He later contacted the real Doopie, who confirmed it wasn't real.

{{quotebox|The Jig is Up! I have been long suspicious of the Facebook account, but I went along for the possibility of it being real. Then the first deletion from Facebook by others' flagging. And the birth dates did not match between your first and second profile trials. And then you said your email was from @mail.com. I offered a benefit, since you might have missed typing the "g". And the Big Flag, actual email from your @mail.com address. I had received actual email from the real Doopie before from her actual address. I emailed her and checked, she responded "No" to making a Facebook Profile Page.

Your Game IS Over Trollish Impostor! Consider yourself Blocked. Good day.

Sent from my iPhone

Stay Safe,

Christine W. Chandler}}

==Fan Art==
{{collapsible
|Some are NSFW.|
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Image:DoopieCameForCWC.jpg
File:Shecameforcwc2017.jpg|KittenBellCameForCWC
Image:DoopieAndCWC.jpg
Image:DoopieDrawingParody.jpg
Image:DoopieDrawingParody2.jpg
Image:DoopieDrawingParody3.png

</gallery></center>}}

==Fan video==
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| name = #HarassCWCdirectly
| video = {{#ev:youtube|8oCd-Y8g8Es}}
| Stardate = 6 August 2017
| Maker = Spelling Bee
| Subject =
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==See also==
*[[Chris and socialization]]
*[[Planet Dolan]]
*[[Megan Schroeder]]

==External links==

*[https://www.youtube.com/user/DoopieDoOver YouTube channel]
*[https://www.patreon.com/DoopieDoOver DoopieDoOver's Patreon account] - Chris ''was'' a patron of this account.
*[https://www.patreon.com/KittenBell NSFW Patreon account] - And this one, too.

== Sources ==
<references />

{{People}}
{{Sweethearts}}

[[Category: Gal pals]]

DoopieDoOver

2017-08-10T20:21:09Z

Hagibor: /* #HarassCWCdirectly and #DontHarassMe */

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{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
| colspan="2" | [[Image:DoopieDoOver.png|300px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |DoopieDoOver
|-
| '''Name'''
| Danielle Pitts<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-07-19-17-doopie-commission.32399/page-2#post-2438376</ref>
|-
| '''AKA'''
| Dani Willow
|-
| '''Date of Birth'''
| 27 May 1994 (age {{Age|1994|5|27}})
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Female
|-
| '''Nationality'''
| American
|-
| '''Race'''
| [[Chris and race|White]]
|-
|}

{{quote|"Is chris chan even real?"|Doopie asking an understandable question in a May 31, 2016 tweet<ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/737793615259394049</ref>}}

{{quote|Darling|Chris, addressing Doopie. Repeatedly.<ref name=darling>[[July 2017 tweets]], [[July 2017 Patreon posts]]</ref>}}

'''Danielle Pitts''' (nicknamed "'''DoopieDoOver'''" or "'''Doopie'''") is a voice actress/animator for the [[Planet Dolan]] YouTube channels. She also offers drawings for sale. Chris appeared to consider her to be a [[gal pal]], whereas she thought of him as simply another customer. In August 2017, she blocked him after receiving negative attention from weens and getting creeped out by Chris's messages towards her.

== Prologue ==
[[File:Doopie react to cwc.png|thumb]]

Chris discovered the Planet Dolan channel in [[August 2016]] and took a liking to Doopie. He began frequently tweeting to her in 2017. His first message to Doopie was on 7 March 2017 when she tweeted about her Borderline Personality Disorder and how it's affected the way she interacts with others. Chris, [[Autism|having completely missed the point of the entire post]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh|having]] [[Jerkop|judged]] [[Adam Stackhouse|so]] [[Pmurt|many]] [[Michael Snyder|people]] [[Jimmy Hill|in]] [[Trolls|the]] [[Megan Schroeder|past]], felt somewhat empathetic for Doopie, and made a misguided attempt to make her feel better by comparing her mental disorder with a bunch of people she's never met on the internet<ref>[[2017 tweets#Empathizing with BPD]]</ref>.

His social awkwardness in full display, he has tweeted to her on the subjects of poop<ref>[[2017 tweets#Poop]]</ref>, his hatred of online dating<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref>, and he has tried to hit on her by quoting his "I’m Done Adulting" ''My Little Pony'' T-shirt<ref>[[2017 tweets#Hitting on Doopie]]</ref>.

Doopie knew about Chris prior to him becoming obsessed with her. She occasionally made fun of him on Lazycast, a podcast series she co-hosts<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/08-03-2017-we-can-not-let-ourselves-be-blinded-impulsively.28939/page-5#post-2129294</ref>, as recently as March 2017.

Once Chris started actively tweeting to her, starting in the spring of 2017, she started off by ignoring his messages.

On 11 April, she liked one of his tweets sympathizing with her stance against animal cruelty<ref>[[2017 tweets#Animal cruelty]]</ref>. Eventually, on 21 April, she decided to converse with Chris when he asked about her newly dyed hair. A swarm of [[weens]] promptly descended on them, and Doopie found herself in the position of defending Chris<ref>[[2017 tweets#Doopie defends Chris]]</ref>.

In July, she explained her opinion on Chris, mentioning that he had commissioned her for art and pledged to her Patreon.

{{quotebox|I've been following the "Chris chan" saga since the beginning. I know everything that (s)he's done. And yeah, it's pretty shitty, but what other people have done to him/her as been pretty shitty too. I'm also just not the type of person to turn someone away when they're being nothing but kind to me. It may be a fake, it may be a show, but I'm not emotionally invested in this enough to really care.

(S)he's paid me to do a commission, and is a patron on my patreon, and as a woman of business, I'm going to treat him/her as every other commissioner and patron.<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris]]</ref>}}

== Art commissions ==
{{quote|I really had no choice. A paying customer is a paying customer, but I'm starting to regret it lol.|Doopie reacts to the fallout from being Chris's customer on 1 August 2017.<ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/892484212145627136</ref>}}

Around 22 June 2017, Chris began to pledge on Doopie’s Patreon.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-12-chris-argues-with-a-fool.32246/page-6#post-2426664</ref>. He pledged at the $50 tier<ref>[[Doopie E-mails]]</ref> and received a sketch of Rosechu as one of the offered rewards<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/7-27-doopies-patreon-sketch-for-chris.32596/</ref>.

He also paid her $25 for a separate commission to serve as a profile picture and liked it so much that he switched his profile icon on [[Facebook]], [[YouTube]], [[Twitter]] and [[Patreon]] to it. Ever since Doopie has first shared the picture with Chris, the drawing has been subject to many [[Parody|parodies]] defacing Chris in the picture, either by redrawing him as he actually appears IRL or by replacing Chris with another person such as [[Liquid Chris]].

Chris began throwing that money at her in the midst of the [[Financhu Crisis]], and he quickly resorted to begging people on Facebook for the exact amount of money, claiming that he needed it to help him and his mother<ref>[[July 2017 tweets#Resuming begging]]</ref>.

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=== Porn ===

[[File: PornRequest.png|thumb|The request in question]]

On 1 August 2017, Chris began pledging to KittenBell - a Patreon account set up by Doopie to handle porn requests, while continuing his pledge to her primary account. He suggested a drawing of two [[MLP]] characters depicted as lesbians "makin' out and fondling/fingering." <ref>[[August 2017 Patreon posts#Request for cartoon porn]]</ref> More than likely, Doopie will never work on the project, seeing how Doopie wishes to break all connections with Chris.

=="Darling"==
[[File:Fanartdoopiereact.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction of Doopie's reaction.]]

After becoming Doopie's customer, Chris began to refer to her as "darling" multiple times over Twitter and once on Doopie's Patreon<ref name=darling/>. He does it in spite of knowing that Doopie is not a [[boyfriend-free girl]], which he learned on 16 May through a Planet Dolan video in which she talked about the success she had at online dating<ref>[[May 2017 tweets#Ranting on online dating]]</ref>.

Opinion is divided on why Chris does this. Some think he believes Doopie is an attainable target for his [[love quest]], while others think that he is [[naive]] to how creepy he sounds and thinks "darling" is appropriate for a [[tomgirl]] to say in conversation. Chris has similarly used "dear" to address his mother<ref>[[Live Game Stream - C-Log 050012017-1]]</ref>, seemingly oblivious to the incestuous implications. Given that Chris has had sex dreams about his mother<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>, it might not bode well for his view of Doopie.

==Shot down==

{{quote|You don't know me, christine.|Doopie sets the record straight.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets#Doopie sets the record straight]]</ref>}}

{{quote|Yes. I don't totally know you, but you are a good person; like all I've listed here, y'all are girls and at least acquaintances up to friends. And that, to me, counts as much, because I am thankful to have you all in my life and communication circle. 😊🌸 Also, another V.I.Detail., I Care. And I wear my heart on my sleeve. ❤️🤳🏻
|Chris' response.}}

On 1 August, 2017, Chris tagged Doopie in celebration of National Girlfriend Day, listing her among all of the gal-pals he's met on the internet and real life. The day is an occasion meant for female friends to celebrate their special bond<ref>https://nationaldaycalendar.com/national-girlfriends-day-august-1/</ref>. Chris—in his typical, completely non-extrospective, fashion—failed to realize how sad and creepy it was to include Doopie, someone he knew only online via a client-artist relationship. If that wasn't inappropriate enough, Chris's subsequent tweets further unveiled an attraction toward Doopie—which appeared much stronger than previously expected. Doopie immediately protested, stating the obvious fact that she was a stranger to Chris. Despite this clear and unambiguous response, Chris happily disregarded it. Only partially agreeing with her, Chris went on to imply that he must have known her a little bit because he knew she was a good person. Chris then expressed his appreciation for her being in his circle of friends (again, ignoring her previous declaration to the contrary). Once again, Chris demonstrates his almost complete lack of social awareness.

However, despite his implied romantic attraction towards her, Doopie, having already known who Chris is, took it unsurprisingly well and only seemed to mention his heart on his sleeve in her next reply. Doopie, showing disgust towards Chris' skewed ideas of empathy, begins to scold Chris on his donation of his own money he could have used to support himself and Barb during the [[Financhu Crisis]]. Doopie allowed Chris to claim a refund of his Patreon pledges, which he initially declined.

== #HarassCWCdirectly and #DontHarassMe ==

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[[File:Doopie -DontHarassMe.jpg|thumb]]

After everything was said and done, and the weens had taken their naps, Chris unpromptedly uploaded a [[Captain's Log]], ordering all the [[trolls]] to [[BACK THE FUCK OFF]]. He shifted all the blame to the weens, believing they were the reason Doopie blatantly rejected him. Chris attempted to begin two hashtag campaigns, #HarassCWCdirectly and #DontHarassMe, pledging to protect the entire cast of Planet Dolan. He did this by encouraging the trolls to attack him instead. It's likely Chris did this simply to appear heroic to Doopie and to win over her heart again—despite that she never displayed any affection for him to begin with. 
Worse still, despite all of Chris' attempts at heroics and trying to be Doopie's salvation, for all his talk - the only thing Chris did was cowardly ban everyone he invited to troll him instead of Planet Dolan and Doopie which led to them being trolled twice as hard as a way to indirectly attack Chris. Some even took another route by spamming Chris' brother's Twitter with animated gifs from Chris' sex movies and making comments that Chris is under Cole's guardianship and Cole could care less what chris does, letting him go unmedicated and without a doctor's care to spam up the internet with his perversions. 

== Leaked e-mails ==

{{main|Doopie E-mails|Doopie Q&A}}

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By 3 August, Chris' contact with Doopie had been severely reduced, due to her blocking him on Patreon and Twitter. When probed by a troll on 5 August, Chris gave this reply, suggesting that their relationship was not over yet:

{{quotebox|Doopie and I are not close yet, but that does not mean she is not my friend; "Not Your Friend" were Not her exact words, Troll.<ref>[https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/893880561663700992 Chris and Doopie, 5 August]</ref>}}

He also discussed the matter on Patreon:

{{quotebox|And you think I did Not know all that already? I've Learned from my past errors and mistakes. I do not violate women's space. Doopie is going through her recovery of the recent Harassment from You Trolls and Bullies. She liked my Kindness, and I am aware of her past making fun of me; I do not hold that against her. You Damn Trolls and Bullies Ruin Nearly Everything.<ref>[[August 2017 Patreon posts#Third Eye Heart Icon]]</ref>}}

Since Chris failed to get the obvious, Doopie temporarily unblocked him on 5 August to spell out that she is not his friend:

{{quoteboxgreen|I can't believe I had to unblock you to tell you this. I'm not your friend. I'm not ever interested in being your friend. Leave me alone. You were specifically a customer to me, and you took it too far. You creeped me out. Now please don't talk to, or about me, ever again. <ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/894003364135976961</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/DoopieDoOver/status/894003570797826049</ref>}}

Later, fed up with Chris's constant unwanted praise and affection, Doopie decided to leak all of the private e-mails Chris has sent to her by making an account on the [[Kiwi Farms]]. The users on the site then began to ask her questions regarding her interactions with Chris, to which Doopie responded with some intriguing answers.

==NightStar2891==
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{{quote|Shut Up, Trolls; I know Doopie is temporarily on your side for now.|Chris, 7 August, ''still'' not getting it.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets]]</ref>}}

On 4 August, in response to Doopie blocking him over Twitter and asking him not to tweet about her again, Chris created a sockpuppet account to both follow Doopie and publicly defend his actions. On 7 August, Chris "allowed" his NightStar account to leak direct messages, held with his main CWCSonichu twitter account, in which he explained in further detail his motives and actions regarding Doopie, to a troll who then posted the messages to Kiwi Farms. It's possible that Chris did this in order for Doopie to see his side of the story, since he was aware she had joined the forum.

== In the Comic ==
[[File:Doopie on Sonichu 13 cover.jpg|thumb|First artwork of Doopie (brunette to the right of Chris, drawn after Doopie changed her hair color.)]]
She has appeared in Chris' upcoming [[Sonichu 13|Sonichu and Planet Dolan crossover comic]] on its cover, standing near Chris. The page was released on 29 May 2017, prior to Doopie blocking him from social media. The fate of the comic, and Doopie's place in it, remains unclear.

==Liquid Doopie==
[[File:Rej35W2.png|thumb|The fake profile.]]
On 21 July 2017, a ween made a fake Doopie Facebook account in order to befriend Chris and get a rise out of him.

Two days later, Chris had fallen for the ween and accepted a friend request. However, the account was disabled the same day, though a new one was created, which he also accepted a friend request from. He later contacted the real Doopie, who confirmed it wasn't real.

{{quotebox|The Jig is Up! I have been long suspicious of the Facebook account, but I went along for the possibility of it being real. Then the first deletion from Facebook by others' flagging. And the birth dates did not match between your first and second profile trials. And then you said your email was from @mail.com. I offered a benefit, since you might have missed typing the "g". And the Big Flag, actual email from your @mail.com address. I had received actual email from the real Doopie before from her actual address. I emailed her and checked, she responded "No" to making a Facebook Profile Page.

Your Game IS Over Trollish Impostor! Consider yourself Blocked. Good day.

Sent from my iPhone

Stay Safe,

Christine W. Chandler}}

==Fan Art==
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==Fan video==
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==See also==
*[[Chris and socialization]]
*[[Planet Dolan]]
*[[Megan Schroeder]]

==External links==

*[https://www.youtube.com/user/DoopieDoOver YouTube channel]
*[https://www.patreon.com/DoopieDoOver DoopieDoOver's Patreon account] - Chris ''was'' a patron of this account.
*[https://www.patreon.com/KittenBell NSFW Patreon account] - And this one, too.

== Sources ==
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{{People}}
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[[Category: Gal pals]]

A-Logs

2017-04-05T13:11:19Z

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[[File:A_Log.jpg|thumb|240px|The original A-Log in all his glory.]]
[[File:A-Logging in nutshell.jpg|thumb|A-Logging in a nutshell. You don't even need to watch the video in question; the title and thumbnail are enough.]]
[[File:ILoveRobotR34AndMeNotBeingChrisCompletelyJustifiesIt.jpg|thumb|"Hey, at least it's not Chris-Chan doing it."]]

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{{Protip|This article is about the term "A-Logging", not about Anthony LoGatto himself. Information on the latter should go to his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page.}}
{{quote|What Saddam did in the [[Father Call|Gulf War]] was potatoes to what [[Chris]] has done.|A-Log providing a helpful example of A-Logging.}}

'''A-Logging''' is a term used to describe one expressing disproportionate levels of hatred for Chris, often including wishing him physical harm, usually for perceived "crimes" that Chris is "guilty" of. The people who do this are known as '''A-Logs''', and are considered at the other end of the spectrum from [[white knight]]s; where white knights try to defend Chris from [[trolls]] and help him to improve his situation, A-Logs hold the belief that Chris is deserving of whatever scorn and harm he is subjected to, and then some. A-Logs are sometimes interchangeably referred to as [[weens]], as many A-Logs also tend to be weens and vice-versa, although weening has a different meaning to A-Logging, namely unfunny or failed attempts at trolling Chris. While once fashionable, A-Logging has become associated with people trying to "trollshield" themselves, like the original A-Log, and therefore is looked down upon by Christorians.

The term originates from '''Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto''', a [[YouTube]]r who is known for making commentaries on Chris, which are often considered to be the worst ever made. Commentaries are meant to refute bad points and offer opinions on an opposing view; what A-Log did was make videos where he reacted to Chris, pointed out the obvious, and went on about how Chris is an awful person (and how he, A-Log, is better) who needs to have harm inflicted upon him. However, A-Log's monomania led trolls to wonder what he was trying to hide, leading to them doing a bit of research on him. The result was that A-Log became known as "Chris-Chan 2.0" because, as it happened, he had several faults similar to Chris himself, and could be considered worse than Chris. Among other things, he is a furry, has made terrible erotic fanfiction, is doing a laughable college radio show (from which he was almost fired after being caught [[Mass debating|watching]] [[Bob Walks In|porn]] in the studio), did some awkward interviews at WolfDork.com, was the subject of a leaked video of him doing a painfully bad stand-up routine, and much, much more. Ultimately, A-Log became subject to trolling himself, and is the inspiration for this very term. At one point, A-Log even received his own wiki called the "Logattopedia", which was relatively short-lived and unpopular. He also spawned the phrase "Hi, A-Log!", used to mock A-Logs.

==Features of A-Logging==
There are a few qualities which are common in A-Logs, and many of them can be seen in the original A-Log's commentaries.

===Justifications for trolling Chris===
Some would argue that it is sinister and just plain wrong to mock a mentally deficient person such as Chris. A-Logs therefore try to justify trolling him by arguing that, regardless of his [[autism]] and other undiagnosed problems, he has shown that he is a bad person who "deserves" to be trolled. Many A-Logs are themselves autistic, and they can often be heard making arguments along the lines of Chris "giving autistics a bad name." Others will appeal to his many instances of bigotry (most of them debatable) as reasons to troll Chris. By establishing that Chris is a bad person, it seems to justify that Chris not only deserves the treatment he currently receives, but also deserves physical and/or psychological harm inflicted on him.

While Chris has done some horrible things, including [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Megagi_La_Skunk_agrees_that_you_should_have_never_been_born|cursing his former friend Megan Schroeder for trolling him]] (which of course, she didn't) and [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with his car]], it is still somewhat ironic that A-Logs think the best recourse is to wish him death and curse him back. Not to mention, they tend to ignore the factors that led Chris to behave in this way--unsurprisingly, unbridled malevolence is never one of them, as discussed in further detail below.

===Trollshielding===
Often times, people who A-Log Chris do so to "[https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Troll_Shielding trollshield]", that is, to avoid becoming subject to trolling themselves. Like A-Log himself, they tend to have many traits in common with Chris; they generally have an autism spectrum disorder, still live with their parents well into adulthood, are unemployed and/or are living off welfare, are sexually frustrated virgins, have trouble socializing and forming relationships, or are fixated on cartoons, toys and other things that most people their age would have little interest in beyond their nostalgic value. Some perhaps have even more faults than Chris, especially bizarre fetishes, as seen in the case of A-Log himself. However, A-Logs will argue that at least they are "not like Chris" and are fervent in their vitriolic condemnations of Chris so that people don't troll them instead. More often than not, as in the case of the original A-Log, this backfires and they find themselves becoming the subject of trolling.

==Arguments against A-Logging==
While Chris is far from perfect, it is generally accepted that calling for him to be harmed or abused like A-Logs do merely legitimizes Chris's sense of victimization, and makes the A-Logs themselves look sociopathic and unbalanced.

===Chris is not Hitler===
While the [[CWCki]] certainly doesn't vindicate any of the bad or stupid things Chris has done, what A-Logs ''must'' understand is that Chris, while he may not exactly be a likable person, isn't guilty of "crimes" that must be punished with violence or abuse. We really shouldn't need to point out that Chris being compared to people like Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hitler is at best hyperbolic, and at worst, utter insanity. Hitler was responsible for the death of nearly 11 million civilians during World War II.<ref>[http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/36qs.html 36 Questions & Answers About the Holocaust]</ref> Hussein actively persecuted and murdered almost 200,000 Kurds and Shiite Muslims.<ref>[http://civilliberty.about.com/od/internationalhumanrights/p/saddam_hussein.htm]</ref> Chris's antics hardly compare to the atrocities committed by two feared and reviled dictators; he's just a gullible idiot who spends his time trying to hit on women (very badly) and make them his [[sweetheart]]s, [[Tomgirl|crossdressing]] and playing [[vidya]].

While he ''is'' quite prone to [[rage]] and has a noted tendency to wish [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|very unpleasant]] [[death threats|things]] on those who wrong him, it should be plain to see that he is simply too lazy, weak, cowardly and incompetent to actually carry out whatever he threatens. After all, do you really think a man who [[Don't Mess With Me|took 20 seconds to open a Swiss Army knife]] is capable of killing anyone? Plus, there's only [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe|one extant account]] of him even getting close to fighting someone, and in that instance, he pussied out, so it seems that even Chris himself knows that there could only be [[Kick the Autistic|one outcome]] if he ever tried to get violent with anyone. Moreover, when taking Chris's childlike mental state into account, it's also quite possible he doesn't fully understand the gravity of what he wishes upon people when making death threats, especially when he's blinded by anger.

Chris is also known to exact violent retribution from those who have wronged him in his fictional works, which A-Logs tend to use as evidence of him being evil or psychopathic. For example, he is known to have beaten up representations of his real-life enemies in ''[[Soul Calibur]]'', and subjected some of them to particularly gruesome deaths in the ''[[Sonichu 8|Sonichu]]'' [[Sonichu 10|comics]]. However, not only are these gory episodes in [[CWCville]] isolated incidents, but again, one must remember that he is resorting to this because he is sensible enough to realize that he could not do this in real life, due to his own weakness and because he knows he'll be punished for it, which is, in itself, an encouraging sign. Moreover, even if this were taken to be evidence of a violent streak, it does not merit abuse or punishment because obviously, he hasn't actually hurt anyone except an NPC in ''Soul Calibur''. While violent fantasies like these ''do'' merit anger management classes and/or a few sessions with a psychiatrist, they are ''not'' a green light for A-Logs to demonize Chris; he's mentally ill, and as such needs help, not hate. In addition, while acting out violence in fictional settings is more common among autistic people, it isn't uncommon in the population as a whole; many people find escapism in doing so.

Even compared to many other infamous Internet personalities, Chris is actually fairly benign. While many A-Logs tend to justify their actions by arguing Chris could someday act on his fantasies and commit violence or even rape, they tend to forget about people who have actually done those things. For perspective, fellow lolcow [https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Vade Vade] is widely believed to have intentionally caused her boyfriend to commit suicide in order to gain sympathy on Tumblr. She then used this sympathy to build a sizable legion of followers who would spam any Tumblr user Vade deemed offensive or unworthy, for a time she practically ruled the site like a micro-dictatorship. Yet for some reason countless A-Logs direct their scorn at Chris even though his purported violent and authoritarian fantasies have remained exactly that.

A-Logs also tend to turn to the [[October 2011]] [[GAMe PLACe]] incident to try and portray Chris as a truly violent individual. More likely than not, Chris's actions on that day were the result of his mother's influence, his non-existent driving skills, and sheer blind panic rather than outright malevolence.<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email?|"Mom took the wheel"]]</ref><ref>[[DayOut|Chris exhibits poor judgement while driving]]</ref> Likewise, Chris's decision to visit a local [[GameStop]] despite being banned [[26 December 2014|and subsequent macing of an employee]] who tried to get him to leave were not the product of malevolence on Chris's part. It was caused by Chris's [[Chris and reality|assumption]] that he would be allowed in because he was [[Honor roll|in disguise]], and [[Ego|because he]] [[Autism|had decided]] that his ban didn't apply because he was there to buy, not to [[Sonic Boom Protests|vandalize merchandise]], which had got him banned in the first place. Additionally, the leaked video of the incident shows Chris merely spraying at the employee's shirt rather than his face, which lends credence to Chris's own account that he was simply issuing a warning shot in case the employee tried to detain him, or merely spraying in his general direction as a parting "fuck you" to the staff [[Tomgirl|in an attempt to look sassy]], not trying to actually harm the man. All in all, the GameStop incident was caused not by a violent streak, but rather by Chris's persistent habit of trying to circumnavigate rules when they inconvenience him, and his tendency to forget the consequences of his actions.

===There's no legal defense over attacking Chris for real===
Perhaps the best reason against A-Logging is the legal liability (i.e. being charged with and possibly convicted for stalking, terroristic threats, assault, or a myriad of other possible charges). Whatever feelings you may have against Chris, there is no legal defense for taking the law into your own hands, and chances are you will end up with a life-changing felony conviction. In addition to this, part of the charm of watching Chris is in his eternal rage over a nonexistent enemy. Committing actual violence would only legitimize Chris's victim complex, and likewise would, in such a circumstance, make ''you'' the villain.

===Chris's beliefs are simply ignorant, not supremacist===
While Chris has held some politically incorrect, even bigoted opinions in the past, they hardly seem to suggest Chris is an amoral monster. One must consider that Chris was raised by and has spent his entire life around [[Borb|2 elderly, disturbed rednecks]]. Of ''course'' he has socially unacceptable beliefs on controversial topics such as race and sexuality--they were given to him by people whose every word he has unquestioningly accepted since he was young.

Aside from this, Chris's discomfort around black people likely has more to do with [[Bob]]'s influence and his own failure to understand social norms. Chris simply doesn't understand that one does not announce to the world one is discomforted by African-Americans; this is far from the outright ideology of white supremacy that your average neo-Nazi would have. Chris has no history of actually going out and lynching blacks or other minorities that discomfort him. Chris's notable offenses have been applying stereotypes to and picking on the black kids who defeated him in [[TCGs]] at the GAMe PLACe, as well as using "Jew" as a pejorative against [[Michael Snyder]], who Chris inaccurately thinks is Jewish, and taking photos of an elderly black woman who was giving him "a hard time" and putting it on Facebook without her permission. One of Chris's grievances, if you can call it that, is that non-white women don't fit his ideal vision of a [[sweetheart]], which he constantly fails to properly articulate; it is entirely possible for a non-racist white man to not be sexually attracted to non-white women. Chris has also used the racial slur of "nigger" in a few of his means of communication, though he shows some degree of reservation where he uses this word. During the [[Lars Call]], Chris showed great apprehension towards using the word "nigga" and only did so when Lars gave him implicit permission. One of the most famous instances of Chris's use of the word "nigger" is in his video confronting [[Surfshack Tito]] on his trolling efforts.<ref>[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb#Video|On camera use of the word "nigger"]]</ref> In this video, Chris's racism is often found humorous as Tito is Hawaiian, not black. Moreover, Chris's usage of the word in [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]] is the result of it being an adaptation of a song from the racially-charged show ''[[Adult Swim|The Boondocks]]'', and pure laziness to change every racist part in the song to homophobic parts. When one examines Chris's use of the word, he does not show any understanding of the complexity, history, proper context, or underlying implications of the slur.<ref>[[Surfshack Tito E-mails|Chris's liberal use of "nigger"]]</ref> He simply repeats it blindly as he knows that it is edgy and offensive to black people.

In regards to his homophobia, while his reasons are ill-informed at best, again, Bob is the likely source of Chris's dislike of homosexuals,<ref>[[Matthew Noble call#Transcript|"[...]conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were gay[...]"]]</ref><ref>[[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|"[...]and my father threw the damned "fag" card at me."]]</ref> not to mention the fact that Chris has had very little friendly interaction with ''anyone'', never mind true homosexuals. It is also worth noting that trolls are at least partially to blame for his hatred of homosexuals, as they would often pretend to be homosexuals, or spam his websites with homoerotic images, to get under his skin, not to mention that they often pretended to be black for the same reasons. As a result, Chris, in his autism, began to believe that all trolls are gay black men, thus cementing his disdain for both homosexuals and black people, as he thought they were responsible for the trolling he was subject to. A-Logs also like to appeal to his attempts to "cure all the homos" with a vaccine made with his blood in the comics as proof positive of his homophobia. While this may be so, it is often seen as unintentionally funny by Christorians--not only because it shows his ignorance of science, but also because vaccines are made with dead cells infected with the disease they are curing--meaning that Chris unknowingly implied that he was gay. In short, Chris is ''not'' the Westboro Baptist Church--he doesn't go around picketing the funerals of dead gays, nor is he head of a power-lobbying group against LGBT individuals in Washington. He's just a redneck who's too indoctrinated by his parents and unused to minorities, or the concept of people being different to him, to know better.

It is also worth noting that with Bob gone, and [[Barb]] soon to follow, Chris has begun to emerge from his parents' influence, and has back-pedalled on his bigotry towards minorities. In particular, Chris has begun to express his desire to become a lesbian transwoman, and has accordingly publicly apologized for his old bigotry towards homosexuals, first on Facebook, and later [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.|in a YouTube video]], and he has become a staunch supporter of LGBTIQ rights. He has even been attending [[Impulse Gay Social Club|gay bars]], the one thing he said he'd never do.

===Chris just cannot get a job===
Some A-Logs contend that Chris is a bad person because he "steals" [[taxpayer money]]. What is almost always overlooked by A-Logs who make this claim is that it wasn't Chris who applied for social security disability; it was Bob who applied for it and convinced Chris that he would make more from disability benefits than working at a minimum wage job. Realistically, Chris didn't have any say in the matter because Bob was the head of the house, and as such it was at his whim that Chris had food, shelter and clothing.

So why doesn't Chris "get off his lazy butt and earn his keep"? Well, because there are a couple of very difficult barriers that stand in his way that many A-Logs simply don’t take into consideration.

First, there is the bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved in someone working full-time while receiving disability benefits. Ironically, it isn't Chris sitting around playing video games day after day while living on government handouts that would likely get him in trouble for disability fraud, it would be working full-time at a minimum wage job while still getting a disability check that would get him in trouble.

Second, there is the issue of Chris's lack of preparation for independent living, as well as his lack of coaching in finding a job and being able to keep it. Moreover, given the existence of this wiki, and the fact that it is standard these days for employers to Google potential employees, it would more likely than not take someone working in human services or in the employment field (that has ''extremely'' good connections) and a job coach (on a long-term basis) to convince a skeptical employer to give Chris a realistic chance at successfully getting and keeping a job. In addition, given Chris's rap sheet, even under ideal circumstances Chris's chances at decent employment may be slim at best. Chris has been convicted for the events of 28 October 2011 and 26 December 2014, which would deter potential employers, regardless of his ability to perform to tasks they set him. While it may sound attractive to the uninformed to "[[Kick the Autistic|kick his ass]]" when it comes to Chris working, in reality there are deep-seated issues that go way beyond the expertise of a few trolls, and no amount of A-Logging can change this.

===Chris is just an idiot===
Chris is not mentally retarded as defined by medical standards and [[Exposing Jeff|as he claims]]. His IQ is within normal range. What trips him up is his lack of common sense. He actually believed that an [[Vanessa Hudgens|attractive celebrity]] was interested in him sexually and that he was talking to her. He used to insist that he'd had many [[sweethearts]], all very attractive women, and never seemed to find it curious that they all either died, disappeared, or were unmasked as trolls. He is an easy mark, not a criminal mastermind.

===Most people can avoid being trolled===
Chris ''does'' share traits with a lot of people, and some of these traits are quite disturbing and embarrassing. It's a fair assumption that a lot of people who follow Chris's antics are unemployed gamer losers, for example. A lot of people have seen Chris and uttered in their minds "Finally, here's someone who's more pathetic than ''I'' am!"

But before you fall into the fallacy of believing that vociferously condemning Chris will save you from the same fate, remember that having embarrassing traits like Chris's ''doesn't'' automatically make you subject to the sort of trolling Chris has had. It ''may'' make you subject to ridicule, but what's more important is how ''you'' respond to the ridicule. You could be like Chris and get [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|BLANGRY]] at every traitorous troll [[Laughs Under Lucricities|under lucricities]], and give the trolls power over you just like Chris did.

Or you could laugh with them at your faults, or even just ignore them and go about your business. Trolls generally aren't interested in people they can't coax a reaction out of. This vital recognition is something Chris never managed, and what set him down the path to perennial trolling in the first place. All in all, if you don't want to end up like him, A-Logging isn't the way to do it. But avoiding the myriad of mistakes Chris and A-Log made is.

==The Hall of A-Logging Shame==
In this section, the CWCki has compiled several comments (and plenty more to come) from A-Logs on YouTube and elsewhere.

{{quote|Obviously you've never heard of what he calls other people who are autistic, and that he calls people with [[Asperger syndrome|Aspergers]](such as myself) "fakers". he doesn't deserve some, he deserves everything for giving us a bad name. The [[trolls]] are also doing what they do to him for a good reason. it's not about the autism to them, but more of that he's a moron who is evil reincarnate and deserves to go back to hell. I don't believe you know what all CWC has done to us on youtube.|GamerXZ0, in a YouTube comment on an original upload of an A-Log video.}}

{{quote|29 years ago today, satan was born and molded into the fucktardian [[Duck|PENIS]] we know & despise today! Should i ever see him i'm gonna [[wikipedia:Mass Transit incident (professional wrestling)|destroy him worse than new jack did to mass transit!]]|ISLAVERDE29, another YouTube comment on an older A-Log video.}}

{{quote|actually, I think I prefer putting many bullets in this faggots head instead.|hanchiman on the [[FUTURE MESSAGE]].}}

{{quote|Hooray [[Bob Chandler|he's]] dead. Now he'lll be spending his eternity in hell while I go piss on his grave.|mxc82, again, another YouTube comment on one of A-Log's older videos, referring to Bob's death.}}

{{quote|Mostly because I was hoping the video would end with him getting shot dead. by the [[Ruckersville]] [[Jerkops|police]]. You can imagine how disappointed I am to find him still alive and kicking when the video is over.|CKO92 on YouTube, reacting over the [[CWC_Lego_Manchester_High_School_Oct_18_2013|Lego High School]] video.}}

{{quote| You fucking brony piece of shit, go kill yourself. If i was your mother i would have an abortion.|randomletters on the Lego High School video.}}

{{quote|Chris Chan u are the single worst human being who ever live. If it wasn't for u fellow autistics and [[Sonichu|Sonic OC]] creators like me would be respected by the world. What you have done is unforgivable. I hope [[Barb]] dies and you spend the last minutes of your life crying about how your a pathetic failure fuck you|OfficialSteroidHedgy, in a comment in Chris's YouTube account.}}

{{quote|I hope you are ashamed that a retarded autistic person (just like yourself) killed 20 innocent kids....all autistic people should be wiped from the earth and aborted before birth since you are all evil i wish the worst fates that heaven and hell can bring upon you and all the other autistic pieces of shit like you|RealReplyGirl4Ever, in a comment in Chris's YouTube account- comparing Chris to [[wikipedia:Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting|a man who shot up an elementary school]] and advocating genocide.}}

{{quote|Guess whose house burned down today. CHRIS-CHAN!|Bad Webcomics Wiki, gloating on their Facebook Page about [[Destruction Of Chris's House|Chris's house burning down]].}}

{{quote|HAHAHAHAHA|A response by the Bad Webcomics Wiki when a troll calls them out for the above.}}

{{quote|Sadly, yes.|Another post from the Bad Webcomics Wiki's Facebook Page, when told that Chris survived the fire.}}

{{quote|Words cannot adequately describe my '''utterly''' all-encompassing hatred and disgust for the grotesque entity that is Christian Weston Chandler. You Christian, are a shamelessly gruesome, inhuman monster. Everything you do and say only adds to your, almost incomprehensibly massive, list of atrocities. Were I to load up http://www.sonichu.com or some other Chris-Chan-related news source and saw that you finally died a death which properly corresponded to what you've inflicted upon this world, it would be the happiest day of my life.

Happiest. Day. Of. My. Life.|ephewe, on [[I Love You, Catherine]].}}

{{quote|Listen, you fat, autistic piece of shit. I've tolerated you so far because you're going to be my new neighbor, but this is the last straw. You traipse around your yard carrying blow up dolls and singing awkwardly, not to mention I can constantly hear you screaming at your mother. I am serious considering finishing cleaning this lot and selling this property to someone better equipped to handle someone like you. I was well within the city ordinances with this controlled brush burn. Also, if I see any other videos of me on my lot portraying me in a negative light, I will take up a libel suit with you.|Mac Slims, trying much too hard to pretend to be Chris's neighbor.}}

{{quote|God I fucking hate this piece of shit. I hope he dies.|JAZZ HANDS, on the [[26 December 2014|GameStop assault]] video.}}

{{quote|Why the fuck is he still alive!?

God, I mean, the guy looks ridiculous, he is also racist and an anti-social idiot that attacks people for no reason, and now he's a fucking burglar!? What's next, he will become the next Hitler?|Rafael Gutierrez, on the GameStop assault video.}}

{{quote|Yes people, THIS is the person Chris's trolls have been whiteknighting and pussing out on trolling because hes "had enough done to him" seriously, give me a break, this guy is an asshole and deserves anything that happens to him because its his OWN DAMN FAULT|TheMojoCorps, on the GameStop assault video.}}

{{quote|shut up you fatass faggot. go jump off a cliff and die.|Boner Dix, responding to a YouTube comment left by Chris}}

{{quote|Why can't this fucking freak of nature just die already?!!?!|Gogol ginn, on "The Best of Chris-Chan, Vol. 1"}}

{{quote|Someone strangle this fucker to death. Please.|Darkside780 on [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero]]}}

{{quote|I just saw a semi-censored version. WHO THE FUCK MAKES THESE KINDS OF VIDS? He's acting like a retard and at the same time running around naked. I wish this man a slow, painful, death. I don't care about the lulz he gives us. This man is disturbing,creepy, and should not be allowed to join society.|thesideshowman212 on [[CWCFlyingElephants]]}}

{{quote|Proof perfect that autists should be dumped in the nearest alligator pit when their condition becomes apparent.|GalVorbak on the [[Sign Destruction Video]]}}

{{Quote|<poem>Whatever happened to predictability?
This crazy manchild doing weird shit each week.
Now he's left the internet, someone tell me please,
When will he die so I can throw a party?
Bob's as mean as I've ever seen
and Barbara's still coddling him
We've manipulated him for so damn long,
He's like an autistic sim,
Every time you look (everywhere),
There's a tard (There's a tard),
A retard to bully,
Every time you look (everywhere)
There's that face (dead-eyed stare),
To troll and to annoy.</poem>|videogamenostalgia, on [[FullHouse]]}}

{{Quote|I'd like to see someone argue that all human beings are worthy of life after watching chris's videos|xXJakethesnake117Xx, on [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]}}

{{Quote|ugh i hope chris chan dies a painful death i mean i think he makes the japanese look like stero-types.|evil-vivianne, on the CWC Soundboard on DeviantART}}

{{Quote|Chris, put up a pay per view where you cut your duck and balls off. People will definitly pay $100 to see it.|YouTuber Henry Panfil, on [[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]], because [[chris and anger|comments like]] [[death threats|this]] don't make you [[weening|more autistic than Chris]].}}

{{Quote|Please notice me senpai.| YouTuber Newwaveknight1 on his constant white knighting for Chris.}}

{{Quote|Chris, send me $1,000 to cover the taxes and I will send you a check for One Million Dollars| Nigerian Prince}}

==See Also==
*[[Weening]], another type of failed trolling, and a key aspect of A-Logging

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Anthony_%27A-Log%27_LoGatto Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto on Encyclopedia Dramatica]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/GeorgieBoyReturns YouTube: The A-Log Archive]
*[http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2012/04/log-man-in-mirror.html An article from Forces of Geek about A-Log, and a more in-depth look on A-Logging.]

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[[File:A_Log.jpg|thumb|240px|The original A-Log in all his glory.]]
[[File:A-Logging in nutshell.jpg|thumb|A-Logging in a nutshell. You don't even need to watch the video in question; the title and thumbnail are enough.]]
[[File:ILoveRobotR34AndMeNotBeingChrisCompletelyJustifiesIt.jpg|thumb|"Hey, at least it's not Chris-Chan doing it."]]

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{{Protip|This article is about the term "A-Logging", not about Anthony LoGatto himself. Information on the latter should go to his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page.}}
{{quote|What Saddam did in the [[Father Call|Gulf War]] was potatoes to what [[Chris]] has done.|A-Log providing a helpful example of A-Logging.}}

'''A-Logging''' is a term used to describe one expressing disproportionate levels of hatred for Chris, often including wishing him physical harm, usually for perceived "crimes" that Chris is "guilty" of. The people who do this are known as '''A-Logs''', and are considered at the other end of the spectrum from [[white knight]]s; where white knights try to defend Chris from [[trolls]] and help him to improve his situation, A-Logs hold the belief that Chris is deserving of whatever scorn and harm he is subjected to, and then some. A-Logs are sometimes interchangeably referred to as [[weens]], as many A-Logs also tend to be weens and vice-versa, although weening has a different meaning to A-Logging, namely unfunny or failed attempts at trolling Chris. While once fashionable, A-Logging has become associated with people trying to "trollshield" themselves, like the original A-Log, and therefore is looked down upon by Christorians.

The term originates from '''Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto''', a [[YouTube]]r who is known for making commentaries on Chris, which are often considered to be the worst ever made. Commentaries are meant to refute bad points and offer opinions on an opposing view; what A-Log did was make videos where he reacted to Chris, pointed out the obvious, and went on about how Chris is an awful person (and how he, A-Log, is better) who needs to have harm inflicted upon him. However, A-Log's monomania led trolls to wonder what he was trying to hide, leading to them doing a bit of research on him. The result was that A-Log became known as "Chris-Chan 2.0" because, as it happened, he had several faults similar to Chris himself, and could be considered worse than Chris. Among other things, he is a furry, has made terrible erotic fanfiction, is doing a laughable college radio show (from which he was almost fired after being caught [[Mass debating|watching]] [[Bob Walks In|porn]] in the studio), did some awkward interviews at WolfDork.com, was the subject of a leaked video of him doing a painfully bad stand-up routine, and much, much more. Ultimately, A-Log became subject to trolling himself, and is the inspiration for this very term. At one point, A-Log even received his own wiki called the "Logattopedia", which was relatively short-lived and unpopular. He also spawned the phrase "Hi, A-Log!", used to mock A-Logs.

==Features of A-Logging==
There are a few qualities which are common in A-Logs, and many of them can be seen in the original A-Log's commentaries.

===Justifications for trolling Chris===
Some would argue that it is sinister and just plain wrong to mock a mentally deficient person such as Chris. A-Logs therefore try to justify trolling him by arguing that, regardless of his [[autism]] and other undiagnosed problems, he has shown that he is a bad person who "deserves" to be trolled. Many A-Logs are themselves autistic, and they can often be heard making arguments along the lines of Chris "giving autistics a bad name." Others will appeal to his many instances of bigotry (most of them debatable) as reasons to troll Chris. By establishing that Chris is a bad person, it seems to justify that Chris not only deserves the treatment he currently receives, but also deserves physical and/or psychological harm inflicted on him.

While Chris has done some horrible things, including [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Megagi_La_Skunk_agrees_that_you_should_have_never_been_born|cursing his former friend Megan Schroeder for trolling him]] (which of course, she didn't) and [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with his car]], it is still somewhat ironic that A-Logs think the best recourse is to wish him death and curse him back. Not to mention, they tend to ignore the factors that led Chris to behave in this way--unsurprisingly, unbridled malevolence is never one of them, as discussed in further detail below.

===Trollshielding===
Often times, people who A-Log Chris do so to "[https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Troll_Shielding trollshield]", that is, to avoid becoming subject to trolling themselves. Like A-Log himself, they tend to have many traits in common with Chris; they generally have an autism spectrum disorder, still live with their parents well into adulthood, are unemployed and/or are living off welfare, are sexually frustrated virgins, have trouble socializing and forming relationships, or are fixated on cartoons, toys and other things that most people their age would have little interest in beyond their nostalgic value. Some perhaps have even more faults than Chris, especially bizarre fetishes, as seen in the case of A-Log himself. However, A-Logs will argue that at least they are "not like Chris" and are fervent in their vitriolic condemnations of Chris so that people don't troll them instead. More often than not, as in the case of the original A-Log, this backfires and they find themselves becoming the subject of trolling.

==Arguments against A-Logging==
While Chris is far from perfect, it is generally accepted that calling for him to be harmed or abused like A-Logs do merely legitimizes Chris's sense of victimization, and makes the A-Logs themselves look sociopathic and unbalanced.

===Chris is not Hitler===
While the [[CWCki]] certainly doesn't vindicate any of the bad or stupid things Chris has done, what A-Logs ''must'' understand is that Chris, while he may not exactly be a likable person, isn't guilty of "crimes" that must be punished with violence or abuse. We really shouldn't need to point out that Chris being compared to people like Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hitler is at best hyperbolic, and at worst, utter insanity. Hitler was responsible for the death of nearly 11 million civilians during World War II.<ref>[http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/36qs.html 36 Questions & Answers About the Holocaust]</ref> Hussein actively persecuted and murdered almost 200,000 Kurds and Shiite Muslims.<ref>[http://civilliberty.about.com/od/internationalhumanrights/p/saddam_hussein.htm]</ref> Chris's antics hardly compare to the atrocities committed by two feared and reviled dictators; he's just a gullible idiot who spends his time trying to hit on women (very badly) and make them his [[sweetheart]]s, [[Tomgirl|crossdressing]] and playing [[vidya]].

While he ''is'' quite prone to [[rage]] and has a noted tendency to wish [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|very unpleasant]] [[death threats|things]] on those who wrong him, it should be plain to see that he is simply too lazy, weak, cowardly and incompetent to actually carry out whatever he threatens. After all, do you really think a man who [[Don't Mess With Me|took 20 seconds to open a Swiss Army knife]] is capable of killing anyone? Plus, there's only [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe|one extant account]] of him even getting close to fighting someone, and in that instance, he pussied out, so it seems that even Chris himself knows that there could only be [[Kick the Autistic|one outcome]] if he ever tried to get violent with anyone. Moreover, when taking Chris's childlike mental state into account, it's also quite possible he doesn't fully understand the gravity of what he wishes upon people when making death threats, especially when he's blinded by anger.

Chris is also known to exact violent retribution from those who have wronged him in his fictional works, which A-Logs tend to use as evidence of him being evil or psychopathic. For example, he is known to have beaten up representations of his real-life enemies in ''[[Soul Calibur]]'', and subjected some of them to particularly gruesome deaths in the ''[[Sonichu 8|Sonichu]]'' [[Sonichu 10|comics]]. However, not only are these gory episodes in [[CWCville]] isolated incidents, but again, one must remember that he is resorting to this because he is sensible enough to realize that he could not do this in real life, due to his own weakness and because he knows he'll be punished for it, which is, in itself, an encouraging sign. Moreover, even if this were taken to be evidence of a violent streak, it does not merit abuse or punishment because obviously, he hasn't actually hurt anyone except an NPC in ''Soul Calibur''. While violent fantasies like these ''do'' merit anger management classes and/or a few sessions with a psychiatrist, they are ''not'' a green light for A-Logs to demonize Chris; he's mentally ill, and as such needs help, not hate. In addition, while acting out violence in fictional settings is more common among autistic people, it isn't uncommon in the population as a whole; many people find escapism in doing so.

Even compared to many other infamous Internet personalities, Chris is actually fairly benign. While many A-Logs tend to justify their actions by arguing Chris could someday act on his fantasies and commit violence or even rape, they tend to forget about people who have actually done those things. For perspective, fellow lolcow [https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Vade Vade] is widely believed to have intentionally caused her boyfriend to commit suicide in order to gain sympathy on Tumblr. She then used this sympathy to build a sizable legion of followers who would spam any Tumblr user Vade deemed offensive or unworthy, for a time she practically ruled the site like a micro-dictatorship. Yet for some reason countless A-Logs direct their scorn at Chris even though his purported violent and authoritarian fantasies have remained exactly that.

A-Logs also tend to turn to the [[October 2011]] [[GAMe PLACe]] incident to try and portray Chris as a truly violent individual. More likely than not, Chris's actions on that day were the result of his mother's influence, his non-existent driving skills, and sheer blind panic rather than outright malevolence.<ref>[[28 October 2011#Email?|"Mom took the wheel"]]</ref><ref>[[DayOut|Chris exhibits poor judgement while driving]]</ref> Likewise, Chris's decision to visit a local [[GameStop]] despite being banned [[26 December 2014|and subsequent macing of an employee]] who tried to get him to leave were not the product of malevolence on Chris's part. It was caused by Chris's [[Chris and reality|assumption]] that he would be allowed in because he was [[Honor roll|in disguise]], and [[Ego|because he]] [[Autism|had decided]] that his ban didn't apply because he was there to buy, not to [[Sonic Boom Protests|vandalize merchandise]], which had got him banned in the first place. Additionally, the leaked video of the incident shows Chris merely spraying at the employee's shirt rather than his face, which lends credence to Chris's own account that he was simply issuing a warning shot in case the employee tried to detain him, or merely spraying in his general direction as a parting "fuck you" to the staff [[Tomgirl|in an attempt to look sassy]], not trying to actually harm the man. All in all, the GameStop incident was caused not by a violent streak, but rather by Chris's persistent habit of trying to circumnavigate rules when they inconvenience him, and his tendency to forget the consequences of his actions.

===There's no legal defense over attacking Chris for real===
Perhaps the best reason against A-Logging is the legal liability (i.e. being charged with and possibly convicted for stalking, terroristic threats, assault, or a myriad of other possible charges). Whatever feelings you may have against Chris, there is no legal defense for taking the law into your own hands, and chances are you will end up with a life-changing felony conviction. In addition to this, part of the charm of watching Chris is in his eternal rage over a nonexistent enemy. Committing actual violence would only legitimize Chris's victim complex, and likewise would, in such a circumstance, make ''you'' the villain.

===Chris's beliefs are simply ignorant, not supremacist===
While Chris has held some politically incorrect, even bigoted opinions in the past, they hardly seem to suggest Chris is an amoral monster. One must consider that Chris was raised by and has spent his entire life around [[Borb|2 elderly, disturbed rednecks]]. Of ''course'' he has socially unacceptable beliefs on controversial topics such as race and sexuality--they were given to him by people whose every word he has unquestioningly accepted since he was young.

Aside from this, Chris's discomfort around black people likely has more to do with [[Bob]]'s influence and his own failure to understand social norms. Chris simply doesn't understand that one does not announce to the world one is discomforted by African-Americans; this is far from the outright ideology of white supremacy that your average neo-Nazi would have. Chris has no history of actually going out and lynching blacks or other minorities that discomfort him. Chris's notable offenses have been applying stereotypes to and picking on the black kids who defeated him in [[TCGs]] at the GAMe PLACe, as well as using "Jew" as a pejorative against [[Michael Snyder]], who Chris inaccurately thinks is Jewish, and taking photos of an elderly black woman who was giving him "a hard time" and putting it on Facebook without her permission. One of Chris's grievances, if you can call it that, is that non-white women don't fit his ideal vision of a [[sweetheart]], which he constantly fails to properly articulate; it is entirely possible for a non-racist white man to not be sexually attracted to non-white women. Chris has also used the racial slur of "nigger" in a few of his means of communication, though he shows some degree of reservation where he uses this word. During the [[Lars Call]], Chris showed great apprehension towards using the word "nigga" and only did so when Lars gave him implicit permission. One of the most famous instances of Chris's use of the word "nigger" is in his video confronting [[Surfshack Tito]] on his trolling efforts.<ref>[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb#Video|On camera use of the word "nigger"]]</ref> In this video, Chris's racism is often found humorous as Tito is Hawaiian, not black. Moreover, Chris's usage of the word in [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There]] is the result of it being an adaptation of a song from the racially-charged show ''[[Adult Swim|The Boondocks]]'', and pure laziness to change every racist part in the song to homophobic parts. When one examines Chris's use of the word, he does not show any understanding of the complexity, history, proper context, or underlying implications of the slur.<ref>[[Surfshack Tito E-mails|Chris's liberal use of "nigger"]]</ref> He simply repeats it blindly as he knows that it is edgy and offensive to black people.

In regards to his homophobia, while his reasons are ill-informed at best, again, Bob is the likely source of Chris's dislike of homosexuals,<ref>[[Matthew Noble call#Transcript|"[...]conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were gay[...]"]]</ref><ref>[[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|"[...]and my father threw the damned "fag" card at me."]]</ref> not to mention the fact that Chris has had very little friendly interaction with ''anyone'', never mind true homosexuals. It is also worth noting that trolls are at least partially to blame for his hatred of homosexuals, as they would often pretend to be homosexuals, or spam his websites with homoerotic images, to get under his skin, not to mention that they often pretended to be black for the same reasons. As a result, Chris, in his autism, began to believe that all trolls are gay black men, thus cementing his disdain for both homosexuals and black people, as he thought they were responsible for the trolling he was subject to. A-Logs also like to appeal to his attempts to "cure all the homos" with a vaccine made with his blood in the comics as proof positive of his homophobia. While this may be so, it is often seen as unintentionally funny by Christorians--not only because it shows his ignorance of science, but also because vaccines are made with dead cells infected with the disease they are curing--meaning that Chris unknowingly implied that he was gay. In short, Chris is ''not'' the Westboro Baptist Church--he doesn't go around picketing the funerals of dead gays, nor is he head of a power-lobbying group against LGBT individuals in Washington. He's just a redneck who's too indoctrinated by his parents and unused to minorities, or the concept of people being different to him, to know better.

It is also worth noting that with Bob gone, and [[Barb]] soon to follow, Chris has begun to emerge from his parents' influence, and has back-pedalled on his bigotry towards minorities. In particular, Chris has begun to express his desire to become a lesbian transwoman, and has accordingly publicly apologized for his old bigotry towards homosexuals, first on Facebook, and later [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.|in a YouTube video]], and he has become a staunch supporter of LGBTIQ rights. He has even been attending [[Impulse Gay Social Club|gay bars]], the one thing he said he'd never do.

===Chris just cannot get a job===
Some A-Logs contend that Chris is a bad person because he "steals" [[taxpayer money]]. What is almost always overlooked by A-Logs who make this claim is that it wasn't Chris who applied for social security disability; it was Bob who applied for it and convinced Chris that he would make more from disability benefits than working at a minimum wage job. Realistically, Chris didn't have any say in the matter because Bob was the head of the house, and as such it was at his whim that Chris had food, shelter and clothing.

So why doesn't Chris "get off his lazy butt and earn his keep"? Well, because there are a couple of very difficult barriers that stand in his way that many A-Logs simply don’t take into consideration.

First, there is the bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved in someone working full-time while receiving disability benefits. Ironically, it isn't Chris sitting around playing video games day after day while living on government handouts that would likely get him in trouble for disability fraud, it would be working full-time at a minimum wage job while still getting a disability check that would get him in trouble.

Second, there is the issue of Chris's lack of preparation for independent living, as well as his lack of coaching in finding a job and being able to keep it. Moreover, given the existence of this wiki, and the fact that it is standard these days for employers to Google potential employees, it would more likely than not take someone working in human services or in the employment field (that has ''extremely'' good connections) and a job coach (on a long-term basis) to convince a skeptical employer to give Chris a realistic chance at successfully getting and keeping a job. In addition, given Chris's rap sheet, even under ideal circumstances Chris's chances at decent employment may be slim at best. Chris has been convicted for the events of 28 October 2011 and 26 December 2014, which would deter potential employers, regardless of his ability to perform to tasks they set him. While it may sound attractive to the uninformed to "[[Kick the Autistic|kick his ass]]" when it comes to Chris working, in reality there are deep-seated issues that go way beyond the expertise of a few trolls, and no amount of A-Logging can change this.

===Chris is just an idiot===
Chris is not mentally retarded as defined by medical standards and [[Exposing Jeff|as he claims]]. His IQ is within normal range. What trips him up is his lack of common sense. He actually believed that an [[Vanessa Hudgens|attractive celebrity]] was interested in him sexually and that he was talking to her. He used to insist that he'd had many [[sweethearts]], all very attractive women, and never seemed to find it curious that they all either died, disappeared, or were unmasked as trolls. He is an easy mark, not a criminal mastermind.

===Most people can avoid being trolled===
Chris ''does'' share traits with a lot of people, and some of these traits are quite disturbing and embarrassing. It's a fair assumption that a lot of people who follow Chris's antics are unemployed gamer losers, for example. A lot of people have seen Chris and uttered in their minds "Finally, here's someone who's more pathetic than ''I'' am!"

But before you fall into the fallacy of believing that vociferously condemning Chris will save you from the same fate, remember that having embarrassing traits like Chris's ''doesn't'' automatically make you subject to the sort of trolling Chris has had. It ''may'' make you subject to ridicule, but what's more important is how ''you'' respond to the ridicule. You could be like Chris and get [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|BLANGRY]] at every traitorous troll [[Laughs Under Lucricities|under lucricities]], and give the trolls power over you just like Chris did.

Or you could laugh with them at your faults, or even just ignore them and go about your business. Trolls generally aren't interested in people they can't coax a reaction out of. This vital recognition is something Chris never managed, and what set him down the path to perennial trolling in the first place. All in all, if you don't want to end up like him, A-Logging isn't the way to do it. But avoiding the myriad of mistakes Chris and A-Log made is.

==The Hall of A-Logging Shame==
In this section, the CWCki has compiled several comments (and plenty more to come) from A-Logs on YouTube and elsewhere.

{{quote|Obviously you've never heard of what he calls other people who are autistic, and that he calls people with [[Asperger syndrome|Aspergers]](such as myself) "fakers". he doesn't deserve some, he deserves everything for giving us a bad name. The [[trolls]] are also doing what they do to him for a good reason. it's not about the autism to them, but more of that he's a moron who is evil reincarnate and deserves to go back to hell. I don't believe you know what all CWC has done to us on youtube.|GamerXZ0, in a YouTube comment on an original upload of an A-Log video.}}

{{quote|29 years ago today, satan was born and molded into the fucktardian [[Duck|PENIS]] we know & despise today! Should i ever see him i'm gonna [[wikipedia:Mass Transit incident (professional wrestling)|destroy him worse than new jack did to mass transit!]]|ISLAVERDE29, another YouTube comment on an older A-Log video.}}

{{quote|actually, I think I prefer putting many bullets in this faggots head instead.|hanchiman on the [[FUTURE MESSAGE]].}}

{{quote|Hooray [[Bob Chandler|he's]] dead. Now he'lll be spending his eternity in hell while I go piss on his grave.|mxc82, again, another YouTube comment on one of A-Log's older videos, referring to Bob's death.}}

{{quote|Mostly because I was hoping the video would end with him getting shot dead. by the [[Ruckersville]] [[Jerkops|police]]. You can imagine how disappointed I am to find him still alive and kicking when the video is over.|CKO92 on YouTube, reacting over the [[CWC_Lego_Manchester_High_School_Oct_18_2013|Lego High School]] video.}}

{{quote| You fucking brony piece of shit, go kill yourself. If i was your mother i would have an abortion.|randomletters on the Lego High School video.}}

{{quote|Chris Chan u are the single worst human being who ever live. If it wasn't for u fellow autistics and [[Sonichu|Sonic OC]] creators like me would be respected by the world. What you have done is unforgivable. I hope [[Barb]] dies and you spend the last minutes of your life crying about how your a pathetic failure fuck you|OfficialSteroidHedgy, in a comment in Chris's YouTube account.}}

{{quote|I hope you are ashamed that a retarded autistic person (just like yourself) killed 20 innocent kids....all autistic people should be wiped from the earth and aborted before birth since you are all evil i wish the worst fates that heaven and hell can bring upon you and all the other autistic pieces of shit like you|RealReplyGirl4Ever, in a comment in Chris's YouTube account- comparing Chris to [[wikipedia:Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting|a man who shot up an elementary school]] and advocating genocide.}}

{{quote|Guess whose house burned down today. CHRIS-CHAN!|Bad Webcomics Wiki, gloating on their Facebook Page about [[Destruction Of Chris's House|Chris's house burning down]].}}

{{quote|HAHAHAHAHA|A response by the Bad Webcomics Wiki when a troll calls them out for the above.}}

{{quote|Sadly, yes.|Another post from the Bad Webcomics Wiki's Facebook Page, when told that Chris survived the fire.}}

{{quote|Words cannot adequately describe my '''utterly''' all-encompassing hatred and disgust for the grotesque entity that is Christian Weston Chandler. You Christian, are a shamelessly gruesome, inhuman monster. Everything you do and say only adds to your, almost incomprehensibly massive, list of atrocities. Were I to load up http://www.sonichu.com or some other Chris-Chan-related news source and saw that you finally died a death which properly corresponded to what you've inflicted upon this world, it would be the happiest day of my life.

Happiest. Day. Of. My. Life.|ephewe, on [[I Love You, Catherine]].}}

{{quote|Listen, you fat, autistic piece of shit. I've tolerated you so far because you're going to be my new neighbor, but this is the last straw. You traipse around your yard carrying blow up dolls and singing awkwardly, not to mention I can constantly hear you screaming at your mother. I am serious considering finishing cleaning this lot and selling this property to someone better equipped to handle someone like you. I was well within the city ordinances with this controlled brush burn. Also, if I see any other videos of me on my lot portraying me in a negative light, I will take up a libel suit with you.|Mac Slims, trying much too hard to pretend to be Chris's neighbor.}}

{{quote|God I fucking hate this piece of shit. I hope he dies.|JAZZ HANDS, on the [[26 December 2014|GameStop assault]] video.}}

{{quote|Why the fuck is he still alive!?

God, I mean, the guy looks ridiculous, he is also racist and an anti-social idiot that attacks people for no reason, and now he's a fucking burglar!? What's next, he will become the next Hitler?|Rafael Gutierrez, on the GameStop assault video.}}

{{quote|Yes people, THIS is the person Chris's trolls have been whiteknighting and pussing out on trolling because hes "had enough done to him" seriously, give me a break, this guy is an asshole and deserves anything that happens to him because its his OWN DAMN FAULT|TheMojoCorps, on the GameStop assault video.}}

{{quote|shut up you fatass faggot. go jump off a cliff and die.|Boner Dix, responding to a YouTube comment left by Chris}}

{{quote|Why can't this fucking freak of nature just die already?!!?!|Gogol ginn, on "The Best of Chris-Chan, Vol. 1"}}

{{quote|Someone strangle this fucker to death. Please.|Darkside780 on [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero]]}}

{{quote|I just saw a semi-censored version. WHO THE FUCK MAKES THESE KINDS OF VIDS? He's acting like a retard and at the same time running around naked. I wish this man a slow, painful, death. I don't care about the lulz he gives us. This man is disturbing,creepy, and should not be allowed to join society.|thesideshowman212 on [[CWCFlyingElephants]]}}

{{quote|Proof perfect that autists should be dumped in the nearest alligator pit when their condition becomes apparent.|GalVorbak on the [[Sign Destruction Video]]}}

{{Quote|<poem>Whatever happened to predictability?
This crazy manchild doing weird shit each week.
Now he's left the internet, someone tell me please,
When will he die so I can throw a party?
Bob's as mean as I've ever seen
and Barbara's still coddling him
We've manipulated him for so damn long,
He's like an autistic sim,
Every time you look (everywhere),
There's a tard (There's a tard),
A retard to bully,
Every time you look (everywhere)
There's that face (dead-eyed stare),
To troll and to annoy.</poem>|videogamenostalgia, on [[FullHouse]]}}

{{Quote|I'd like to see someone argue that all human beings are worthy of life after watching chris's videos|xXJakethesnake117Xx, on [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]}}

{{Quote|ugh i hope chris chan dies a painful death i mean i think he makes the japanese look like stero-types.|evil-vivianne, on the CWC Soundboard on DeviantART}}

{{Quote|Chris, put up a pay per view where you cut your duck and balls off. People will definitly pay $100 to see it.|YouTuber Henry Panfil, on [[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]], because [[chris and anger|comments like]] [[death threats|this]] don't make you [[weening|more autistic than Chris]].}}

{{Quote|Please notice me senpai. YouTube Whitknight1 on his constant white knighting for Chris.}}

==See Also==
*[[Weening]], another type of failed trolling, and a key aspect of A-Logging

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Anthony_%27A-Log%27_LoGatto Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto on Encyclopedia Dramatica]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/GeorgieBoyReturns YouTube: The A-Log Archive]
*[http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2012/04/log-man-in-mirror.html An article from Forces of Geek about A-Log, and a more in-depth look on A-Logging.]

[[Category: Trolling]]