Watchmen

2021-07-12T03:50:17Z

Hammersonly: /* Breakup of the Watchmen */ Added an interview of The WCT

{{quote|You brought so much fucking [[Laughs Under Lucricities|joy]] to this world and you continue to do so. That's why[...] you need to remain safe.|Bismuth, one of the Watchmen, to Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}

[[File:Watchmen.jpg|thumb|The [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|accumulated]] [[Unholy Tetrad|filth]] of their [[trolls]] and [[weening]] will foam up about their waists and all the [[Dimensional Merge|Merge-deniers]] and [[A-log|A-logs]] will look up and shout "[[For Julie's Eyes Only|JULAAAY!]]" ...And I'll look down, and whisper "[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'm workin' on it.]]"]]

The '''Watchmen''' were a group of fantastical [[enablers]] whose members served as gatekeepers and [[white knights]] for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in a similar manner as their predecessors, the [[Guard Dogs]]. Their goal was to keep away malicious individuals trying to troll or scam Chris. The group broke up in late June 2021 following a series of internal conflicts among its members.

As a faction, the Watchmen were instrumental in numerous events over the course of late 2019 onwards, such as attempting to dismantle [[Jacob Sockness]]’s influence over Chris and drive him off. They also shut down the Arbitarch CWC Alliance Discord server when the true intent of the server was revealed. Chris had contact with the Watchmen, including [[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)|chatting with them]] on [[Discord Q&A 4|Google Hangouts]] and over [[Discord]]. The Watchmen were behind the [[2020 Discord leaks|Discord leaks in August 2020]].

Their approach is controversial as they gained Chris's favor by means of [[Enablers|enabling]] his delusions by pretending to be fellow [[CPU]] goddesses and encouraging his beliefs in [[magical thinking]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]]. The Watchmen tracked and collected information on anyone involved with- or trying to get involved with- Chris, and held no qualms about doxing potential weens, trolls, and a-logs.

While they shared a name with the 1986/1987 DC Comics limited series by Alan Moore, David Gibbons, and John Higgins, the 2009 film adaptation (which is [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|not that long of a movie]], according to [[Emily]] and [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]), the 2019 HBO series, and the various comic book spin-offs, the Watchmen did not take inspiration from the franchise, in contrast to how [[The Miscreants]] modeled themselves after the Patriots from ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]''. Nonetheless, fan art from Christorians and other avid observers of Chris make this connection.

==Origins==
What eventually became the Watchmen group had its roots in the CWC Rebellion Discord server. There, Owls met Meghan (aka MKRNightVee), and Talia (whom Owls described as "a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris").<ref name=owlsaccount>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/page-1257#post-7343340 (Archive: https://archive.fo/06IZx)</ref>

Meghan got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number.<ref name=cap2>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> Owls tried to coach Meghan<ref name=cpuowls>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl5-png.644835/</ref> and avoid problems, though he admits he didn't do well at it.<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>

After Meghan had been in contact with Chris for some time, Owls came up with the idea to try to [[manipulate]] Chris's beliefs away from the [[Dimensional Merge]] through telling him that the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU goddesses]] had relocated to Earth. Meghan recruited her friends to role-play as CPUs to Chris over Discord; Owls acted as a gatekeeper between MKR's friends and Chris.<ref name=cpuowls></ref>

{{quote|time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea.|Owls<ref name=owlsaccount></ref>}}

According to the Watchman Bismuth, Owls acted as liaison between the CPU group and Marvin of the [[Guard Dogs]] group (the latter group also gatekeepers to Chris at the time) but Bismuth alleged that Owls wasn't reporting back to Marvin. Owls later left the group.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref>

==Known members==
===AquaDiamond8===
{{quote|Christine...Please stop this, Mewtwo is not real, the [[merge]] is not happening, you need serious help. If you need help there are people to help you with these delusions. This is incredibly unhealthy for you.|AquaDiamond8, March 2019<ref>http://archive.md/50xPX</ref>}}

{{quote|Still i dont want <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Jacob Sockness]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> attacking my people when the merge happens, Christine has said there will be no more war or need for violence in the merge, my Sapphire has forseen this |AquaDiamond8 changes her tune, November 2019.<ref>http://archive.ph/0bMDM</ref>}}

[[File:Magi-Chan and AquaDiamond8.jpg|AquaDiamond8 and Magi-Chan. Drawn by Aqua November 2019.|thumb|200px]]

'''AquaDiamond8''' is a Twitter user who has bounced from being a [[ween]],<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-988#post-4495303</ref> to a [[white knight]], to an enabler and Watchman. In November 2019, during the [[Jacob Sockness]] saga, in order to lure Chris away from Sockness, Aqua joined the Watchmen and embraced Chris's delusional beliefs, changing her Twitter handle to '''CPU Goddess Aqua of the Mac Book Pro'''. Later, Aqua began drawing fanart of her [[OC]] interacting with [[Magi-Chan]].<ref>http://archive.md/lGets</ref> She then posted a Pokémon drawing, claiming it to be an alt-dimension Magi-Chan:<ref>http://archive.md/ETlxV</ref>

{{Collapsible|Val Valentino lore|{{quoteboxgreen|[[File:Val Valentino, The Masked Magician.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Val Valentino, The Masked Magician. A celestial powerful magician

Dex Enter: "This Magi-Chan is so powerful he has to mentally project a simplified form that the human mind can comprehend. Looking at his true form would drive you mad."

Dex #: unknown}}

Chris was enticed by this news:

{{quotebox|Seriously? You disovered an alt-dimension Magi-Chan Sonichu? This is a very interesting find. I'll look more into this one for myself.

Also, for your information, regardless of which variant, Dimension or Timeline of origin, Special, Regular, or Mega Evolved, the Pokedex Number for Sonichu and Rosechu will always be at #982 and #979, respectively.}}

Aqua answered:

{{quoteboxgreen|Oh i wasnt aware ill make sure to write that down. But he more discovered me in a way. I was meaning to chat with [[Polyamorous marriage|your hubby]] when i realized i wasnt in our normal meeting spot, then he appeared through a portal.}}}}

As of early September 2020, Aqua is confirmed to no longer be involved with the Watchmen's activities:

{{quoteboxgreen|in all honesty at first i genuinly wanted to help chris but after the incident with Wendy i wanted to make things better, and try to help him, and as someone with autism, and who has family that acts like chris, i knew how dificult it is to get them to beleive certain things. I guess going along with it and pretending to be a goddess was better than letting her be on her own and let someone else take advantage of her.

Note that i never wanted anything from Chris, and did want to help, and despite what Dillin says about MKR or some of the "enamblers, not all of them are bad, MKR is the nicest person i know and i know that she truely does care for Chris.

I wanted to to help them with keeping sockness away from Chris and though it took some time ive seen chris is no longer taking his crap serious. I do keep up to date whats been going on, but i dont interact.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak_ElSwC1Xo&lc=Ugw4uQfLu00i10Lrjq14AaABAg.9DSJjEeQ6nb9DSfhyTd-Ra</ref>}}

===Bismuth===
[[File:CPUBismuthHeart.jpg|150px|thumb|Avatar of CPU Bismuth Heart.]]
'''Bismuth''' is the second leader of the Watchmen, taking over after Owls left.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> He monitored and doxed potential weens or enablers. He went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. For the CWCki Discord server, he often used an emote of a heart. For [[Kiwi Farms]], he went by names/accounts including "Naught", "anameisaname", "death of chans", and "Nightmare"<ref name=naughtthread></ref> - he was eventually banned from the forum for use of sockpuppet accounts, advertising, and liking his own posts with sock accounts.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/corbindallasmultipass-memorial-thread.30974/post-9227018</ref>

In June 2021, conflict arose between Bismuth and fellow Watchman The WCT, stemming from an allegation Bismuth had doxed the latter.<ref name=naughtthread></ref> Following a Lolcow.org thread on the ex-member, a leaked voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3</ref> suggested that Chris sided against Bismuth in the dispute.

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===Kyle===
The inspiration for Chris's [[:File:KylechuOC.jpg|Kylechu]] OC, '''Kyle''' appeared in the Google Hangout chats.

===Lainchu===
[[File:Lainchu.jpg|thumb|200px|Lainchu, as drawn by MKRNightVee.]]
'''Lainchu''', also known '''Lainchu the Chronicler''', is an OC created by Chris, whose purpose is to document Chris's activities (and unofficially, to provide Christorians with first hand information). Since 7 August 2020, Chris has assigned the role to one of the Watchmen, with the role initially assigned to the CWCki Discord server creator, [[User:Klop|Klop]]; however, as of late [[August 2020]], Klop has resigned from the role and another user has taken on the mantle, with Chris none the wiser.

Chris based the OC on the protagonist of the [[anime]], ''[[Wikipedia:Serial Experiments Lain|Serial Experiments Lain]]'', in which a teenage girl finds herself engaging with a virtual world network, reminiscent of the [[internet]].

===MKRNightVee===
[[Image:MeghanRingo.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Meghan]]
[[File:MKR enabling.png|200px|thumb|right||Meghan enabling Chris's delusional thoughts.]]
{{quote|I am a [[CPU]], that means I am directly on the same level of godhood as [[Chris]]tine.|Meghan, replying to [[Sarah and Steve]] questioning if she really follows Chris's beliefs.<ref>[http://archive.md/lj64i Archive of 7 Nov 2019 tweet chain]</ref>}}

{{quote|Nothing lasts forever, especially not any group protecting Chris-chan.|Meghan, reflecting after her March 2021 ragequit.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1368024530325630980 (Archive https://archive.fo/rXsVi)</ref>}}

'''Meghan Kathleen Ringo''' (born 24 April 1992), also known under the aliases '''MKRNightVee''', '''CPUMagentaHeart''' and '''thepixietailartist''', and sometimes referred to as '''Maker''' by Chris, appeared in early [[2019]]. She got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up Chris's phone number for her.<ref name=cap2></ref> She presented herself to Chris as being the [[CPU]] goddess of the [[Nintendo Switch]], offering him validation on his fantasies of having magic powers.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454/</ref> She has stated that her goal isn't to feed into Chris's delusions so much as to offer advice and help.<ref>[[:File:MKR motives.png]]</ref> Chris offered her several of his possessions in his [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|Last Will and Testament]].

She set up a Discord group for Chris, telling her friends to role-play as [[CPU]] goddesses to gain Chris's trust, while also instituting a no-trolling rule.<ref>[[:File:MKR Discord Rules.png]]</ref>

During the [[TF2 Analysis]] saga, she created an alt Twitter account named [[Creamarina]] and shared it with Chris to enable him to evade blocks.<ref>[[Misc texts#Creamarina]]</ref>

During the [[Jacob Sockness]] saga, in which Sockness attempted to manipulate Chris into a sexual relationship, Meghan saw the danger in Sockness's intent, and steered Chris away from him in summer 2019; Sockness, who at the time was engaging in a full-scale war against Chris's enablers, followers and critics alike, considered MKR to be an enemy of his, and abused her verbally on Twitter as his second dramatic cycle approached its climax in early [[November 2019|November]]. She, as well as Aqua, largely mitigated Sockness's influence over Chris, though Chris was still willing to listen to Sockness.
[[File:mkrragequit.png|200px|thumb|left|Meghan ragequits in March 2021.]]
In March 2021, she temporarily gave up on helping Chris when she learned that he was planning on [[Taser Discussion|playing with a taser]] with his new friend group [[Praetor]], sending an angry Tweet directed towards him which expressed her disdain, before deleting her Twitter account a few days later.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1368024530325630980 (Archive https://archive.fo/rXsVi)</ref> However, she reactivated her account, and tweeted again to Chris in April, replying to Chris tagging her to show her a gif file,<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1380732044951515137 (archive: https://archive.fo/fL8wZ)</ref> and later to reply to another of Chris's tweets in order to call [[Other enablers#Helena Fiorenza|one of his enablers]] a faggot.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1380756077864620033 (archive: https://archive.fo/Ybm8P)</ref>

In June 2021, internal conflict arose among Watchmen members over Bismuth allegedly doxing The WCT which resulted in the group separating. Meghan had sided with Bismuth and Chris against, leading to Chris distancing himself from Meghan in the fallout. On 29 June, Meghan tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Your obviously good at using people and then moving on to the next. Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> She followed up by tweeting that she regretted having spent her time drawing art for Chris and accused him of being unappreciative of it.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1411511053872025605 (archive: https://archive.fo/8WSOI)</ref>

===Owls===
[[File:Ryan Owls.png|thumb|200px|left|Ryan.]]
'''Ryan Winger''', also known as '''Owls''' to the other Watchmen, as '''GhostBird50''' on the [[Kiwi Farms]],<ref name=owlsaccount></ref> and as '''CpuTurquoiseHeart''' to Chris,<ref name=cpuowls></ref> was the original leader of the Watchmen group.<ref name=naughtclarify>[[:File:Naught origin clarify 1.png]] amd [[:File:Naught origin clarify 2.png]]</ref> Ryan advised MKRNightVee in interacting with Chris and founded the Watchmen's Discord server. Ryan also acted as a liaison between Watchmen and [[Guard Dogs]] member Marvin, though fellow Watchman Bismuth alleged that he hadn't been reporting back to Marvin.<ref name=naughtclarify></ref> Ryan left the group and was succeeded by Bismuth.

===The WCT===
[[File:The WCT avatar.png|thumb|200px|The WCT's avatar.]]

'''The WCT''', also known as WildCat and Neko Onyx, is a Watchmen member who has archived calls involving Chris. Before becoming a Watchman, he had been observing Chris and watching [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psI8P3gbSM4]</ref>

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==Breakup of the Watchmen==
Signs of the group dissolving began appearing in late June 2021. Earlier in the month, The WCT was doxed, and signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Bismuth as the source.<ref name=naughtthread>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ (archive: https://archive.fo/G30td)</ref> When The WCT confronted Bismuth during the group’s movie night on 21 June, Bismuth denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox The WCT in an attempt to silence him. Kyle and MKRNightVee took Bismuth’s side in the dispute.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hYztxRHRA </ref> A leaked voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3</ref> was posted to a Lolcow.org thread made about Bismuth,<ref name=naughtthread></ref> implying that when Chris learned of the infighting, he sided against Bismuth.

On 29 June, MKRNightVee made multiple tweets which suggested Chris had cut communications with her in favor of The WCT, tagging Chris’s Twitter and posting, “Your obviously good at using people and then moving on to the next. Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> She then followed up with accusations against The WCT, believing him to be messing with Chris and having sinister motives.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>

===Interview===
The WCT was interviewed over Discord about the Watchmen breakup on 11 July 2021. The WCT's messages are in blue and the interviewer's in green.

{{quoteboxgreen|Hi. Someone told me you’re The WCT. If it’s okay with you, I’d like to ask you some questions about the Watchmen breakup for the Cwcki.}}

{{quotebox|hi there.

and yes, by all means ask said questions.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|The initial conflict seems to be between you and Bismuth, that Bismuth doxed you. How did it grow to break up the Watchmen group?}}

{{quotebox|After I concluded that it was Bismuth that was responsible for the doxing, I made the choice to contact MKRNightVee (or Meghan some of you know her as) and I showed her a lot of screenshots in DMs that compared the typing style of his old Kiwi Farms accounts to one that he used to dox me. (which was Nightmare)

I recall telling her that I was 90 percent sure that it was him.

But in spite of the evidence that I had presented to her at the time, she didn't believe me. And during our VC on June 21st, She and Kyle were still not convinced.

They originally thought it was somebody who I angered in the past, but knowing what the Nightmare account was up to at the time, I knew that it was him.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How did Chris learn of the dispute?}}

{{quotebox|Not long after the VC, I decided that I would contact him myself.

So with the help of a Former Watchmen who had his phone number, I was able to get in contact with him on June 25th.

And there, I had an hour and 40 minute talk with him that first started off as any conversation I'd usually have with him until I was comfortable enough to tell him the details.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Did you show Chris the same evidence that you did to MKRNightVee?}}

{{quotebox|When I was talking with MKR, I didn't show her as much evidence at the time since the Investigation was still ongoing. And compared to what I shared with Chris, I shared less with MKR.

Not because I didn't trust her, but it was because there was not enough information available at the time. And what I ended up showing Chris was a combination of the Kiwi Farms posts and the VC that I had with the rest of the group.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How did Chris react to it?}}

{{quotebox|It took Chris a while to process it.

With each screenshot, he began to believe that my claims were true. And when we were both going over the VC, he noticed how Bismuth was getting really defensive and thought that he was clearly lying to me.

Especially when I told Bismuth that Josh (Null) claimed to me that him and Nightmare were the same person.
And that 3-4 seconds of silence on his part was something that helped convince Chris that I was in the right.

He also noticed how hostile Bismuth was getting towards me as well, especially when I kept on asking him if he doxed me or not. Chris saw that as a red flag.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Did Chris cut ties with Bismuth?}}

{{quotebox|From what I know, yes he did.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|What happened between Chris and MKRNightVee? MKR’s recent tweets indicate they’ve had a falling out. Is it related to the Watchmen breakup?}}

{{quotebox|yes it is.

Meghan was upset that Chris had sided with me in regards to what had happened.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How does Praetor fit in to this? MKRNightVee has said in a tweet that you’ve teamed up with them.}}

{{quotebox|Praetor had nothing to do with what happened.

Its just that when they got word from Chris that he had left the server, they followed. So it makes sense on MKR's part to accuse me of working with them because we all either got banned or left the place at the same time.

It was a strange coincidence yes, but there is zero contact between me and Caden.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|What server did Chris leave?}}

{{quotebox|The Watchmen's Place.

as some of you might've heard of on the CWCki. - https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Discord#The_Watchmen.27s_Place}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Why did he leave it?}}

{{quotebox|when he got word that I got banned from the server (by Kyle that is), he saw it as a green light to leave it himself.

So essentially he saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Are you still in contact with Chris?}}

{{quotebox|at this moment in time, I'm not.

We went our separate ways not long after the Watchmen had broken up and I believe that its for the best for both me and him.

And rather or not if he wants to be in touch with me still is completely up to him, but I won't be too surprised if he had already moved on at this point, and I respect whatever path he goes on moving forward.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Forgot to ask earlier, but what was your motivation for informing Chris of the conflict between you and Bismuth/MKR/Kyle?}}

{{quotebox|I was running out of options on what to do. When MKR and Kyle didn't believe my claims, I felt that I had no choice but to inform Chris on what had happened.

It was a very risky move on my part to do that, but I don't regret telling him.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|That’s all the questions I have. Thank you for answering. Is there anything else you would like to add?}}

{{quotebox|I just want to let people know that Chris is now a free man with nobody to dictate his actions. And for his sake, it needs to remain that way.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Thanks again. I'll look to getting this conversation to the CWCki. Do you want your username/avatar censored?}}

{{quotebox|yes}}

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==Q&A==
A Christorian interviewed Bismuth on 4 September 2020, asking some clarifying questions about the Watchmen. They posted the answers on the Official CWCki Discord. The interviewer's questions are color-coded red, with Bismuth's responses color-coded white.

{{collapsible|Q&A|The first four questions appear to be referring to the [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] server.

{{quoteboxred|Who started it and why?}}

{{quoteboxwhite|Owls the guy who set-up mkr and [[Joseph Draft]] got aqua and mkr to draw some art to lure cwc in.}}

{{quoteboxred|How did Chris join there?}}

{{quoteboxwhite|I was told it was going to be for Chris's patrons.}}

{{quoteboxred|Why was it killed?}}

{{quoteboxwhite|It was killed because owls and Joseph didn't know how to wrangle tards. Mkr aqua were being blamed for making it so I asked for a mod role kept asking for more perms and deleted all the channel's. I posted the rolling and trolling vid.}}

{{quoteboxred|Who killed it?}}

{{quoteboxwhite|I killed it, Joseph and Smokey Chris TheSperge were using the server to gather content, they convinced Joseph I was Johan.

After a 4 hour conversation I got Joseph draft to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet.}}

The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.

{{quoteboxred|Why did Aqua leave?}}

{{quoteboxwhite|Stress and people @ her on Twitter

Her and mkr are still frens}}

{{quoteboxred|Will this group be around forever?}}

{{quoteboxwhite|As long as Chris is in need or willing yes<ref>[[:File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 1.png]][[:File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 2.png]]</ref>}}}}

==See also==
*[[CWCProtectSquad]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]

==References==
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