https://sonichu.com/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Homsar 2026-04-09T12:54:23Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.37.6 https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Akashic_Records&diff=358580 2026-02-23T17:48:29Z

<p>Homsar: /* Could the &quot;Akashic Guardian&quot; be a troll? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Could the &quot;Akashic Guardian&quot; be a troll? ==<br /> <br /> Sorry, I don't know much about the jail era. But I don't know if Chris ever brought this stuff up before jail. I doubt Chris would come across this stuff in jail. Of course Chris has been delving deep into new aged stuff before then. Any idea where this came from? [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 06:55, 23 February 2026 (EST)<br /> <br /> :Could be possible, after a few months the only letters we got were the ones from Kengle. I highly doubt he had a monopoly over Chris' &quot;fan mail&quot; so maybe an opportunistic troll fed him some new age ideas while he was getting started with his &quot; I'm Jesus&quot; arc. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 12:48, 23 February 2026 (EST)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Reading_Chaos_Crystal_Control&diff=358563 2026-02-22T16:20:25Z

<p>Homsar: /* Act 7 */ look at 31:23</p> <hr /> <div>'''Reading [[Chaos Crystal Control]]''' is a series of videos published to Chris's [[YouTube]] channel, starting on 19 [[January 2026]].<br /> <br /> In the series, Chris narrates his [[Chaos Crystal Control]] story, an installment to the ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' series. He seemingly decided to start reading over from the beginning, as he had already read [[October 2023 livestreams#Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 4|Act 4]] and [[JCWCSP Dramatic Reading - Chaos Crystal Control Act 0|Act 0]] previously. So far, the series has a runtime of 12 hours, 34 minutes, and 51 seconds (12:34:51).<br /> <br /> ==Act 0 Plus Announcement==<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 0 Plus Announcement<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|Hk2gQeSVNOc}}<br /> | stardate = 19 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Clyde Outtake Movie Plus Outro and Subtitles]]<br /> | next = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 1]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 1==<br /> ===Video===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 1<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|Hi4XBvluzVA}}<br /> | stardate = 22 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 0 Plus Announcement]]<br /> | next = [[Liquidchu's Confession]]<br /> }}<br /> ===TikTok Clip===<br /> Chris reread an excerpt from Act 1 on [[TikTok]].<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Liquidchu's Confession<br /> | video = {{#ev:YouTube|69BTUz6g83U}}<br /> | stardate = 22 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 1]]<br /> | next = [[New High score|New High score #tetris]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 2==<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 2<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|SzxvL_rPnxA}}<br /> | stardate = 28 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Commodore 64 Ultimate Review Part 1 - Unboxing]]<br /> | next = [[Mewgenics Pre Game Goodies Unboxing Video]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 3==<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|1l4puLCn4Ws}}<br /> | stardate = 31 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Mewgenics Pre Game Goodies Unboxing Video]]<br /> | next = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 1]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 3.5==<br /> ===Part 1===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 1<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|qz1BVlsUGaw}}<br /> | stardate = 2 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3]]<br /> | next = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 2]]<br /> }}<br /> ===Part 2===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 2<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|2AUhoI0qH_o}}<br /> | stardate = 4 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 1]]<br /> | next = [[Intro video]]<br /> }}<br /> ===Part 3===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 3<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|kUis6pZagtc}}<br /> | stardate = 6 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[5 February 2026 Cameo videos#Other for Shut up Tyler|Other for Shut up Tyler]]<br /> | next = [[Commodore 64 Ultimate Review Part 2 - Real Retro Gaming]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Part 4===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 4<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|kq3swX3tAvM}}<br /> | stardate = 9 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[9 February 2026 Cameo videos#Krissy's Birthday|Krissy's Birthday]]<br /> | next = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 4 (video)]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 4==<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 4<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|jCvUZsx5uwo}}<br /> | stardate = 11 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 4]]<br /> | next = [[Inspiration from Luann by Greg Evans]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 5==<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 5<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|IO_01obTrp4}}<br /> | stardate = 13 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Inspiration from Luann by Greg Evans]]<br /> | next = [[HarmonyCon]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 6==<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 6<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|aQXoWifmRxw}}<br /> | stardate = 14 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[HarmonyCon]]<br /> | next = [[14 February 2026 Cameo videos#Birthday for Maurice|Birthday for Maurice]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 6.5==<br /> ===Short Clip===<br /> Chris posted this one to both YouTube and [[TikTok]].<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = From Chaos Crystal Control Act 6.5.<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|OMnd1aZSFHg}}<br /> | stardate = 7 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[7 February 2026 Cameo videos#Roasting Noah Powley|Roasting Noah Powley]]<br /> | next = [[8 February 2026 Cameo videos#Advice for Juicy|Advice for Juicy]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Part 1===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 6.5, Part 1<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|yk4kAZX0sks}}<br /> | stardate = 16 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[14 February 2026 Cameo videos#Ricky|Ricky]]<br /> | next = [[16 February 2026 Cameo videos#Greg's Birthday|Greg's Birthday]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Part 2===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 6.5, Part 2<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|mYCJuV8u89I}}<br /> | stardate = 18 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Chaos Crystal Control - Frequently Asked Question: Why do I refer to Sonichu Prime as Son]]<br /> | next = [[I Reiterate]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Part 3===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 6.5, Part 3<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|nuCan8eDVRo}}<br /> | stardate = 20 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Ultimate Miracle Prelude]]<br /> | next = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 7, Part 1]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Act 7==<br /> ===Part 1===<br /> {{tardrage}}<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 7, Part 1<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|QzQrLDEURKw}}<br /> | stardate = 21 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{theclassic4.0|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 6.5, Part 3]]<br /> | next = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Epilogue==<br /> ===Frequently Asked Question: Why do I refer to Sonichu Prime as Son===<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Chaos Crystal Control - Frequently Asked Question: Why do I refer to Sonichu Prime as Son<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|osleAzIp9Z8}}<br /> | stardate = 17 [[February 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[16 February 2026 Cameo videos#Go Sports Team!]]<br /> | next = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 6.5, Part 2]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2026]]<br /> [[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]<br /> [[Category:Videos Chris uploaded to TikTok]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=HarmonyCon&diff=358172 2026-02-16T19:53:53Z

<p>Homsar: /* Videos */</p> <hr /> <div>{{stub}}<br /> {{Incomplete|https://kiwifarms.st/threads/feb-13-2026-chris-kicked-from-harmonycon.239174/}}<br /> [[File:Chris at HarmonyCon 2026.jpeg|thumb|250px|Chris at HarmonyCon, pulling his hood down and holding his mask.]]<br /> '''HarmonyCon''' is a [[brony]] [[convention]] in Dallas, [[Texas]]. In 2026, it took place at the Hyatt Regency Dallas hotel from 13-15 February.<br /> <br /> Chris attended in [[February 2026]], although he was [[Jerkop|removed by staff]] on Day 1. Chris arrived dressed as the [[Power Rangers|White Power Ranger]], and was spotted by one convention goer wearing a full mask and not responding when his costume was complimented, likely trying to remain undetected.&lt;ref&gt;https://x.com/Peel_yaps/status/2022447560930025597 ([https://archive.ph/RmIUa archive])&lt;/ref&gt; However, Chris also left his [[business card]]s which proclaimed himself to be undergoing a &quot;[[redemption arc]]&quot;.<br /> <br /> On Day 1, before his ban, Chris attended a panel titled &quot;[[MLP G5]] - Lore, Lies, and Legacy&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;https://harmonycon.org/#schedule&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ikpx-Fj8rYTncNbIv_xao4qrwKdHtQqO7ahRNAoZ1YM/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{clear}}<br /> ==Videos==<br /> {{tardrage}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|-give me victory, and light power, and I shall lead with that which is good and righteous as I make my leave. Be safe, and go forth with that which is good and light powered and blessed is every one of you. Aaaaahh-aaaahhh!}}<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Chris Chan gets kicked out of Harmony Con<br /> | ytid = EKnO1PsAuPE<br /> | stardate = <br /> | subject = {{Convention|text}}<br /> | style = {{Rage|text}}<br /> | saga = <br /> | shirt =<br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control#Act 5|Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 5]]<br /> | next =<br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Chris Chan gets kicked out of Harmony Con<br /> | ytid = xPPYzgJIKj8<br /> | stardate = <br /> | subject = {{Convention|text}}<br /> | style = {{Rage|text}}<br /> | saga = <br /> | shirt =<br /> | previous = <br /> | next =<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Gallery==<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Chris at HarmonyCon 2026 White Power Ranger.jpg|Chris in the &quot;[[MLP G5]] - Lore, Lies, and Legacy&quot; panel audience (gold and black outfit, white hood)<br /> File:Bronys_React_HarmonyCon.png|Bronies react to Chris at HarmonyCon<br /> File:HarmonyCon Redemption Arc card.jpg|[[Business card]] apparently left by Chris at the convention, claiming himself to be in a redemption arc&lt;ref&gt;https://kiwifarms.st/threads/feb-13-2026-chris-kicked-from-harmonycon.239174/post-23717540&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> File:HarmonyCon Business card Redemption Arc.jpeg|Another shot of the card&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1r4waen/found_this_in_the_wild/?share_id=2K3imFcCs-zxvLpmbxjrp ([https://archive.fo/N5uO7 archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> {{MLP}}<br /> {{Places}}<br /> [[Category:Conventions]]<br /> [[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2026]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=HarmonyCon&diff=357950 2026-02-14T03:41:45Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{stub}}<br /> [[File:Chris at HarmonyCon 2026.jpeg|thumb|250px|Chris at HarmonyCon, pulling his hood down and holding his mask.]]<br /> '''HarmonyCon''' is a [[brony]] [[convention]] in Dallas, Texas. Chris attended in [[February 2026]], although he was removed by staff on day 1. Chris arrived dressed as the [[Power Rangers|White Power Ranger]], and was spotted by one convention goer wearing a full mask and not responding when his costume was complimented, likely trying to remain undetected.&lt;ref&gt; https://x.com/Peel_yaps/status/2022447560930025597 ([https://archive.ph/RmIUa archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Videos==<br /> {{tardrage}}<br /> [[File:Bronys_React_HarmonyCon.png|thumb|350px|Bronys react to Chris at HarmonyCon]]<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Chris Chan gets kicked out of Harmony Con<br /> | ytid = EKnO1PsAuPE<br /> | stardate = <br /> | subject =<br /> | style = <br /> | saga = <br /> | shirt =<br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control#Act 5|Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 5]]<br /> | next =<br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> [[Category:Conventions]]<br /> [[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2026]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Da_update&diff=357934 2026-02-14T01:29:09Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;center&gt;[[Image:CWCki News.png|320px]]&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;&gt;It is currently [[{{#time:F Y}}]]. It has been...<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:0 auto 8px; max-width:25rem;&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;vertical-align:top&quot;<br /> |&lt;!---<br /> LINK TO MOST RECENT SIGHTING <br /> --&gt;[[Sightings_(2026)#Harmony_Con_Dallas|<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:2em&quot;&gt;{{counter|big=yes|&lt;!--<br /> <br /> DATE AND TIME OF LAST SIGHTING (UTC)<br /> --&gt;2026-2-13 12:00:00&lt;!--<br /> <br /> --&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;]] ''day(s) since Chris was last spotted in public.''<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:0.88em&quot;&gt;<br /> |&lt;!---<br /> LINK TO MOST RECENT LIVESTREAM<br /> --&gt;[[Jesus Christ Chan - Post TLUM Movie Premiere Q&amp;A| <br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:2em&quot;&gt;{{counter|big=yes|&lt;!--<br /> <br /> DATE AND TIME OF MOST LIVESTREAM<br /> --&gt;2026-1-05 18:00:00&lt;!--<br /> <br /> --&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;]] ''day(s) since Chris has last livestreamed.''<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:0.88em&quot;&gt;<br /> ''Record Streak: 233 days''<br /> |}<br /> <br /> We highly advise ''against'' seeking out Chris, or anyone who is or has previously been associated with him, in any way.&lt;/center&gt;<br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Current Updates'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> * '''13 February''' - Chris gets '''[[Sightings_(2026)#Harmony_Con_Dallas|kicked out of another convention]]'''.<br /> * '''13 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 5]]'''.<br /> * '''11 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 4 (video)]]''' and '''[[Inspiration from Luann by Greg Evans]]'''.<br /> * '''9 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 4]]'''.<br /> * '''7 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Commodore 64 Ultimate Review Part 2 - Real Retro Gaming]]'''.<br /> * '''6 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 3]]'''.<br /> * '''4 February'''<br /> **Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 2]]'''.<br /> **Chris joins '''[[Ko-fi]]'''.<br /> **Chris '''[[February 2026 social media posts#Talking dragons with MKRNightVee|replies]]''' to one of [[MKRNightVee]]'s tweets tagging him, reestablishing contact between the two after over four years.<br /> **Chris joins '''[[Cameo]]'''.<br /> * '''2 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 1]]'''.<br /> * '''31 January''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3]]'''.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;''Only significant events are listed. For all current updates, read Chris's recent [[{{#time:F Y}} social media posts|social media posts]] or browse the [[Special:RecentChanges|most recent changes to the CWCki]].''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Recently Uncovered Info'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> *'''15 January''' - [[ThePCAssassins]] [[Chat with Bobby C.|Chat with Bobby Part 2 and Part 5]] from [[April 2011]].<br /> *'''20 December''' - [[ThePCAssassins]] [[Chat with Bobby C. Part 1]] from [[April 2011]].<br /> *'''12 November''' - [[Power]] &quot;special thanks&quot; document from [[April 2009]].<br /> <br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is two lists of recent Chris-related activity, one for current updates, and another for newly added information. To prevent the lists becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added; '''no more than seven entries''' should appear in each of the lists at any time.<br /> <br /> To add new updates to the list, simply edit this template, and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Please also link to a source, and set it in '''boldface''', so viewers can know where to read further. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]]. Try to phrase things differently instead of always beginning entries with ''Chris does X''; it can get monotonous. Document the next milestone in Chris's legal proceedings (or when he is to be released from prison, should it come to this) in place of an Ongoing event.}}[[Category:Front page templates]] &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Da_update&diff=357933 2026-02-14T01:27:40Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;center&gt;[[Image:CWCki News.png|320px]]&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;&gt;It is currently [[{{#time:F Y}}]]. It has been...<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:0 auto 8px; max-width:25rem;&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;vertical-align:top&quot;<br /> |&lt;!---<br /> LINK TO MOST RECENT SIGHTING <br /> --&gt;[[Sightings_(2026)#Harmony_Con_Dallas|<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:2em&quot;&gt;{{counter|big=yes|&lt;!--<br /> <br /> DATE AND TIME OF LAST SIGHTING (UTC)<br /> --&gt;2026-2-13 12:00:00&lt;!--<br /> <br /> --&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;]] ''day(s) since Chris was last spotted in public.''<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:0.88em&quot;&gt;<br /> |&lt;!---<br /> LINK TO MOST RECENT LIVESTREAM<br /> --&gt;[[Jesus Christ Chan - Post TLUM Movie Premiere Q&amp;A| <br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:2em&quot;&gt;{{counter|big=yes|&lt;!--<br /> <br /> DATE AND TIME OF MOST LIVESTREAM<br /> --&gt;2026-1-05 18:00:00&lt;!--<br /> <br /> --&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;]] ''day(s) since Chris has last livestreamed.''<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:0.88em&quot;&gt;<br /> ''Record Streak: 233 days''<br /> |}<br /> <br /> We highly advise ''against'' seeking out Chris, or anyone who is or has previously been associated with him, in any way.&lt;/center&gt;<br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Current Updates'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> * '''13 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 5]]'''.<br /> * '''11 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 4 (video)]]''' and '''[[Inspiration from Luann by Greg Evans]]'''.<br /> * '''9 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 4]]'''.<br /> * '''7 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Commodore 64 Ultimate Review Part 2 - Real Retro Gaming]]'''.<br /> * '''6 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 3]]'''.<br /> * '''4 February'''<br /> **Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 2]]'''.<br /> **Chris joins '''[[Ko-fi]]'''.<br /> **Chris '''[[February 2026 social media posts#Talking dragons with MKRNightVee|replies]]''' to one of [[MKRNightVee]]'s tweets tagging him, reestablishing contact between the two after over four years.<br /> **Chris joins '''[[Cameo]]'''.<br /> * '''2 February''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3.5 Part 1]]'''.<br /> * '''31 January''' - Chris publishes '''[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 3]]'''.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;''Only significant events are listed. For all current updates, read Chris's recent [[{{#time:F Y}} social media posts|social media posts]] or browse the [[Special:RecentChanges|most recent changes to the CWCki]].''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Recently Uncovered Info'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> *'''15 January''' - [[ThePCAssassins]] [[Chat with Bobby C.|Chat with Bobby Part 2 and Part 5]] from [[April 2011]].<br /> *'''20 December''' - [[ThePCAssassins]] [[Chat with Bobby C. Part 1]] from [[April 2011]].<br /> *'''12 November''' - [[Power]] &quot;special thanks&quot; document from [[April 2009]].<br /> <br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is two lists of recent Chris-related activity, one for current updates, and another for newly added information. To prevent the lists becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added; '''no more than seven entries''' should appear in each of the lists at any time.<br /> <br /> To add new updates to the list, simply edit this template, and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Please also link to a source, and set it in '''boldface''', so viewers can know where to read further. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]]. Try to phrase things differently instead of always beginning entries with ''Chris does X''; it can get monotonous. Document the next milestone in Chris's legal proceedings (or when he is to be released from prison, should it come to this) in place of an Ongoing event.}}[[Category:Front page templates]] &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sightings_(2026)&diff=357932 2026-02-14T01:26:50Z

<p>Homsar: /* Harmony Con Dallas */</p> <hr /> <div>{{protip|We once again advise you to ''never'' directly engage with Chris nor attempt to get him [[banned]] from the places he's been to, [[Xela|as doing so won't work well in your favor]]. On the off-chance that you cross paths with Chris, the ''most'' that you should do is [[Passive observers|get some kind of documentation of Chris]], [[Unholy Quintet|but never to directly engage with him]].}}<br /> {{ongoing}}<br /> Since his release from jail in [[2023]], '''sightings''' of Chris have occurred in [[2026]]. These sightings are particularly notable, given Chris's decline in terms of having an active online presence.<br /> <br /> ==January==<br /> ===Spencer's===<br /> On 14 [[January 2026]], [[Twitter]] user and Spencer's employee @justatinymouse was approached by Chris, and he gave her a promotional card for his [[Transformers Legacy United Merged Full Compilation Movie Plus, aka Cwclight Review Movies|TLUM movie]], visually similar to his previous [[business card]]s:&lt;ref&gt;https://x.com/justatinymouse/status/2011553795344646624 ([https://archive.fo/XwseG archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|CHRIS CHAN JUST CAME UP TO ME IN MY STORE AND HANDED ME THIS AND THEM BOUGHT HAZBIN HOTEL MERCH&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[File:14 January 2026 TLUM Movie promotional card1.jpeg|400px]][[File:14 January 2026 TLUM Movie promotional card2.jpeg|400px]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> She also posted a video of the card on [[TikTok]], claiming that Chris told her to &quot;spread the word.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/@justatinymouse/video/7595333863082183967 ([https://archive.fo/r08O0 archive])&lt;/ref&gt; The same woman also saw Chris at her place of work in [[November 2025]], on the same day he was spotted and photographed at a [[Target]].&lt;ref&gt;https://x.com/justatinymouse/status/1992411399038091496 ([https://archive.fo/SE3DU archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> Transcript of the card:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|<br /> TRANSFORMERS: More than meets the eye&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[Wikipedia:Capacitance Electronic Disc|RCA SelectaVision VideoDiscs]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> Subtitled for the hearing and esoteric impaired.&lt;br&gt;<br /> A Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime Production&lt;br&gt;<br /> WHEN THE LEGACY UNITES TO MERGE<br /> <br /> Transformers Legacy United Merged Movie Now&lt;br&gt;viewable on YouTube on channel [[CwcvilleGuardian]].&lt;br&gt;<br /> *Stop Motion Animation<br /> *One single multi-voice actress <br /> *Comedy<br /> *Action<br /> *References<br /> *Metaphysical Humor<br /> And more to come with more stories and action to be had.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Colour-Code Subtitled&lt;br&gt;<br /> Without Subtitles}}<br /> <br /> According to @justatinymouse Chris bought merch of Loona from [[Helluva Boss]].<br /> <br /> They also recorded a video and posted it to [[TikTok]] the day after:<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = loona from helluva boss btw #chrischan #sonichu #cwcki #viral<br /> | video = {{#ev:YouTube|KzUYdRuVhN4}}<br /> | stardate = 15 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Television|text}}<br /> |style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = <br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Comm adore https://youtu.be/SANRCUj9Ncg?si=mCBPcSVVFXfIeHfW]]<br /> | next = [[Sparky Outtake Movie Updated Plus Subtitles]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====Transcript====<br /> &lt;center&gt;Didnt realize it was chrischan till i saw the medallion and QUICKLY tried to walk away I WAS SO SCARED&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i was way too nice but i was scared as fuck when I realozed and my my natural response to fear is to people please im sorry&lt;/center&gt;<br /> '''justatinymouse:''' Doing okay over here? Need help with anything? <br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''Chris:'''&lt;/font&gt; No I'm kind of browsing, but thank you.<br /> <br /> '''justatinymouse:''' Okay. Let me know if you need anything, okay?<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''Chris:'''&lt;/font&gt; Yeah, I'll check out in a little while. <br /> <br /> '''justatinymouse:''' Okay, I got you.<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''Chris:'''&lt;/font&gt; I like Loona.<br /> <br /> '''justatinymouse:''' I got you.<br /> <br /> ===Goodwill===<br /> On 18 [[January 2026]], Chris was spotted shopping at a Goodwill by Reddit user the_chrischanspotter, who posted it to r/ChrisChanSightings:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qhktay/chris_chan_sighting_2026&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|<br /> [[File:CWC at Goodwill 18 January 2026.jpeg|350px]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Target===<br /> On 29 [[January 2026]], Chris was spotted at a Target in [[Charlottesville]], VA&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/comment/o2wz2w1/&lt;/ref&gt; by Reddit user Top-Border611:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/got_to_see_the_one_and_only_in_target_yesterday/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|got to see the one and only in target yesterday 🙈<br /> [[File:Chris_at_Target_29_January_2026_2.jpg|300px]] [[File:Chris_at_Target_29_January_2026.jpg|200px]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> According to the Reddit user, Chris was with an unidentified possibly male companion:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/comment/o2pqixk/&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/comment/o2q61k2/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|also he was with a skinnier black male/female? (not sure of the gender but looked male) is this a friend or partner do we think?}}<br /> {{quoteboxred|Could you draw what they looked like?}}<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|honestly no, partly because i didn't see their face and partly because i am terrible at drawing. i would say they were about the same height, and they were pretty thin, in a grey sweatshirt, and had medium length dreads from what i remember. i saw them both leave together.}}<br /> <br /> ==February==<br /> ===Wal-Mart===<br /> On 1 [[February 2026]], Chris was spotted shopping at a Wal-Mart by Reddit users Oodlewedle and Whitehawk345. Both images were uploaded to the r/ChrisChanSightings subreddit.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qt9xhd/chris_chan_spotted_at_wards_road_walmart_by_me/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[File:1 February 2026 Chris at Walmart1.jpg|300px]]<br /> [[File:1 February 2026 Chris at Walmart2.jpg|300px]]<br /> <br /> ===Harmony Con Dallas===<br /> On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris was filmed getting kicked out of Harmony Con Dallas and giving a [[Chris and Anger|rather spirited tirade]].<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Chris and Flutter in Finland, April 2024<br /> | ytid = EKnO1PsAuPE<br /> | stardate = <br /> | subject =<br /> | style = <br /> | saga = <br /> | shirt =<br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control#Act 5|Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 5]]<br /> | next =<br /> }}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> {{Sightings}} <br /> {{The Internet}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sightings_(2026)&diff=357930 2026-02-14T01:23:09Z

<p>Homsar: /* February */</p> <hr /> <div>{{protip|We once again advise you to ''never'' directly engage with Chris nor attempt to get him [[banned]] from the places he's been to, [[Xela|as doing so won't work well in your favor]]. On the off-chance that you cross paths with Chris, the ''most'' that you should do is [[Passive observers|get some kind of documentation of Chris]], [[Unholy Quintet|but never to directly engage with him]].}}<br /> {{ongoing}}<br /> Since his release from jail in [[2023]], '''sightings''' of Chris have occurred in [[2026]]. These sightings are particularly notable, given Chris's decline in terms of having an active online presence.<br /> <br /> ==January==<br /> ===Spencer's===<br /> On 14 [[January 2026]], [[Twitter]] user and Spencer's employee @justatinymouse was approached by Chris, and he gave her a promotional card for his [[Transformers Legacy United Merged Full Compilation Movie Plus, aka Cwclight Review Movies|TLUM movie]], visually similar to his previous [[business card]]s:&lt;ref&gt;https://x.com/justatinymouse/status/2011553795344646624 ([https://archive.fo/XwseG archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|CHRIS CHAN JUST CAME UP TO ME IN MY STORE AND HANDED ME THIS AND THEM BOUGHT HAZBIN HOTEL MERCH&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[File:14 January 2026 TLUM Movie promotional card1.jpeg|400px]][[File:14 January 2026 TLUM Movie promotional card2.jpeg|400px]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> She also posted a video of the card on [[TikTok]], claiming that Chris told her to &quot;spread the word.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/@justatinymouse/video/7595333863082183967 ([https://archive.fo/r08O0 archive])&lt;/ref&gt; The same woman also saw Chris at her place of work in [[November 2025]], on the same day he was spotted and photographed at a [[Target]].&lt;ref&gt;https://x.com/justatinymouse/status/1992411399038091496 ([https://archive.fo/SE3DU archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> Transcript of the card:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|<br /> TRANSFORMERS: More than meets the eye&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[Wikipedia:Capacitance Electronic Disc|RCA SelectaVision VideoDiscs]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> Subtitled for the hearing and esoteric impaired.&lt;br&gt;<br /> A Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime Production&lt;br&gt;<br /> WHEN THE LEGACY UNITES TO MERGE<br /> <br /> Transformers Legacy United Merged Movie Now&lt;br&gt;viewable on YouTube on channel [[CwcvilleGuardian]].&lt;br&gt;<br /> *Stop Motion Animation<br /> *One single multi-voice actress <br /> *Comedy<br /> *Action<br /> *References<br /> *Metaphysical Humor<br /> And more to come with more stories and action to be had.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Colour-Code Subtitled&lt;br&gt;<br /> Without Subtitles}}<br /> <br /> According to @justatinymouse Chris bought merch of Loona from [[Helluva Boss]].<br /> <br /> They also recorded a video and posted it to [[TikTok]] the day after:<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = loona from helluva boss btw #chrischan #sonichu #cwcki #viral<br /> | video = {{#ev:YouTube|KzUYdRuVhN4}}<br /> | stardate = 15 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Television|text}}<br /> |style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | Saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = <br /> | other = <br /> | previous = [[Comm adore https://youtu.be/SANRCUj9Ncg?si=mCBPcSVVFXfIeHfW]]<br /> | next = [[Sparky Outtake Movie Updated Plus Subtitles]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====Transcript====<br /> &lt;center&gt;Didnt realize it was chrischan till i saw the medallion and QUICKLY tried to walk away I WAS SO SCARED&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i was way too nice but i was scared as fuck when I realozed and my my natural response to fear is to people please im sorry&lt;/center&gt;<br /> '''justatinymouse:''' Doing okay over here? Need help with anything? <br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''Chris:'''&lt;/font&gt; No I'm kind of browsing, but thank you.<br /> <br /> '''justatinymouse:''' Okay. Let me know if you need anything, okay?<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''Chris:'''&lt;/font&gt; Yeah, I'll check out in a little while. <br /> <br /> '''justatinymouse:''' Okay, I got you.<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''Chris:'''&lt;/font&gt; I like Loona.<br /> <br /> '''justatinymouse:''' I got you.<br /> <br /> ===Goodwill===<br /> On 18 [[January 2026]], Chris was spotted shopping at a Goodwill by Reddit user the_chrischanspotter, who posted it to r/ChrisChanSightings:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qhktay/chris_chan_sighting_2026&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|<br /> [[File:CWC at Goodwill 18 January 2026.jpeg|350px]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Target===<br /> On 29 [[January 2026]], Chris was spotted at a Target in [[Charlottesville]], VA&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/comment/o2wz2w1/&lt;/ref&gt; by Reddit user Top-Border611:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/got_to_see_the_one_and_only_in_target_yesterday/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|got to see the one and only in target yesterday 🙈<br /> [[File:Chris_at_Target_29_January_2026_2.jpg|300px]] [[File:Chris_at_Target_29_January_2026.jpg|200px]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> According to the Reddit user, Chris was with an unidentified possibly male companion:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/comment/o2pqixk/&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qrn884/comment/o2q61k2/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|also he was with a skinnier black male/female? (not sure of the gender but looked male) is this a friend or partner do we think?}}<br /> {{quoteboxred|Could you draw what they looked like?}}<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|honestly no, partly because i didn't see their face and partly because i am terrible at drawing. i would say they were about the same height, and they were pretty thin, in a grey sweatshirt, and had medium length dreads from what i remember. i saw them both leave together.}}<br /> <br /> ==February==<br /> ===Wal-Mart===<br /> On 1 [[February 2026]], Chris was spotted shopping at a Wal-Mart by Reddit users Oodlewedle and Whitehawk345. Both images were uploaded to the r/ChrisChanSightings subreddit.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSightings/comments/1qt9xhd/chris_chan_spotted_at_wards_road_walmart_by_me/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[File:1 February 2026 Chris at Walmart1.jpg|300px]]<br /> [[File:1 February 2026 Chris at Walmart2.jpg|300px]]<br /> <br /> ===Harmony Con Dallas===<br /> On 13 [[February 2026]], Chris was filmed getting kicked out of Harmony Con Dallas and giving a [[Chris and Anger|rather spirited tirade]].<br /> <br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> {{Sightings}} <br /> {{The Internet}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Mewgenics_Pre_Game_Goodies_Unboxing_Video&diff=357241 2026-01-30T20:06:42Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Deletedvideo}}<br /> [[File:Mewgenics Pre Game Goodies Unboxing Video thumbnail.jpg|thumb|300px|The video's thumbnail on YouTube.]]<br /> '''Mewgenics Pre Game Goodies Unboxing Video''' is a video published to Chris's [[YouTube]] channel on 30 [[January 2026]]. It is a part of the [[Light Powered Cwclight Reviews]] series, in which Chris unboxes a care package of [[Mewgenics]]-related &quot;crap&quot;, personally sent to him from the game's co-creator [[Edmund McMillen]] (a huge fan of Chris). It was set to private in less than 15 minutes after being posted at 1:00 PM, and Chris's posts promoting the video were also deleted.&lt;ref&gt;[[January 2026 social media posts#Deleted Mewgenics post]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The video was reuploaded at 1:36 PM, though it's unknown if there are any alterations from the initial upload. It is possible that Chris accidentally leaked Edmund McMillen's private special email (meant only for select testers of Mewgenics to request a free copy of the game on [[Steam]]) at timestamp 1:13 and had to censor it. If this is the case, Chris still failed to obscure it, as the Edmund@Edmundm.com email is still visible in other parts of the video.<br /> <br /> Chris set the video to private again about an hour later, and reuploaded it again with presumably even more censoring at 2:45 PM. The series of mistakes made Chris begin to feel self-hatred, he posted to [[Bluesky]]:&lt;ref&gt;[[January 2026 social media posts#I feel like I hate myself]]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[[January 2026 social media posts#Revised Mewgenics post]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quotebox|Ugh. Maybe when I get collabing with others, I'll let another editor make sure I don't screw up and [[dox]] anyone. I feel like [[You know what, I HATE ME TOO!!!|I hate myself]].}}<br /> {{quotebox|Okay. NOW all tracks are covered! Ugh! I have been really [[Stress|stressed]] lately. I cover [[Big Island House|my own address]] [[Chris and English|lable]] on the box. What the f*** is wrong with me?! [[Obesity|I REALLY need to shape up]]. Ugh!}}<br /> The third upload of the video is 17:20 in length, while the previous one is 18:09. While the initial upload is considered lost, the initial reupload can be found [https://preservetube.com/watch?v=Gqxsh3npJ38 here].<br /> <br /> Near the end of the video, Chris skims through the Mewgenics comic, [[:File:Edmund McMillen Mewgenics comic, Chris art.jpeg|which he had done artwork for]]. He acknowledges it directly for the first time, explaining how he digitally drew the cats, added a Sonichu &quot;easter egg&quot;, and how he initially expected his contribution to take up two pages instead of one. He also gives a spoiler that he will be doing another review video soon, of something that's &quot;mighty like a [[Hasbro|Micro Machine]], but smaller than a [[Hot Wheels|Hot Wheel]].&quot;<br /> <br /> ==Video==<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Mewgenics Pre Game Goodies Unboxing Video<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|mNOtMEYRjww}}<br /> | stardate = 30 [[January 2026]]<br /> | subject = {{Marketing}} Marketing, {{Video games|text}}, {{Comics|text}}<br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = <br /> | previous = [[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 2]]<br /> | next = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Description===<br /> {{quotebox|I just received a lovely little cat in a crate from the post office, so I thought I'd let the cat out of the bag in this unboxing video for the upcoming game, [[Mewgenics]]. Coming onto [[Steam]] on [[February 2026|February 10, 2026]] and onto consoles later in the year.<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;**&lt;/nowiki&gt;See Mewgenics gameplay footage on [[Edmund McMillen]]'s YouTube Channel:&lt;br&gt;<br /> [''Posts link to Edmund's YouTube channel @edmundmcmillengames'']<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;**&lt;/nowiki&gt;Preorder Mewgenics on [[Steam]]:&lt;br&gt;<br /> [''Posts link to Steam page'']<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;**&lt;/nowiki&gt;Follow me on [[BlueSky]]:&lt;br&gt;<br /> [''Posts link to Bluesky profile'']<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;**&lt;/nowiki&gt;Official [[Cwclight]] Website, Blog and Store&lt;br&gt;<br /> [''Posts link to Cwclight'']<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Official Christ Chan Sonichu Prime [[Etsy]] Store&lt;br&gt;<br /> [''Posts link to [[OfficialCWCmart]]'']<br /> <br /> I'm also on [[Twitter]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> [''Posts link to Twitter profile'']<br /> <br /> And on [[TikTok]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> [''Posts link to TikTok profile'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> {{transcript}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxwhite|speaker=Special letter from Mewgenics creators|Dear Cool person.<br /> <br /> If you are reading this, it means you are special. &quot;A one of a kind extra neato cheeto&quot; as the kids say.<br /> <br /> You may be thinking... but what makes me so special? Well maybe its the way you meow, [[Chris and hygiene|your smell]], or even [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|the way you move your fingers]]!<br /> <br /> WHO KNOWS!? Its a total mystery!<br /> <br /> Anyway inside this little package youll find lots of goodies for our upcoming mega hit MEWGENICS!<br /> <br /> BUT THATS NOT ALL!&lt;br&gt;<br /> No, no, no!<br /> <br /> If you email me at Edmund@Edmundm.com you can request a free copy of the game on steam! So do that if you want!<br /> <br /> Mewgenics comes out feb. 10th ( soon! )<br /> <br /> Enjoy the crap!}}<br /> <br /> {{references}}<br /> <br /> {{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Reading Chaos Crystal Control Act 2]]|nextlink=[[]]}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2026]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Chris_Chan_%26_Max_Mandu_LIVE_/_Leftovers_Tonight&diff=350323 2025-10-21T01:47:04Z

<p>Homsar: The April 2020 page links to this, so it's not orphaned.</p> <hr /> <div>{{SonichuPossession}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|[[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]] was less of a tragedy than this show right now.|A caller trying to contact Noah.}}<br /> <br /> On 19 [[April 2020]], Noah, confirmed [[ween]] and operator of the [[YouTube]] channel '''leftovermedia''', did a live interview with Chris and [[Charlottesville]]-based musician Max Mandu. Despite social distancing orders in place due to the [[COVID-19]] pandemic, the interview was done in person, which the host even acknowledges at 39:15.<br /> <br /> ==Summary==<br /> The interview is set up with Noah, Chris and Max sitting on a couch. At 14:35, the host Noah introduces Max Mandu normally, but then introduces Chris as &quot;Sonichu in the body of Christine Weston Chandler&quot; and refers to Chris as &quot;Sonichu&quot; for the entirety of the interview. After introducing the two, Noah then lets Max perform a song called ''Malachi'' with his harmonica and [[guitar]]. While Max performs the song, Chris is seen next to Max playing an imaginary guitar.<br /> <br /> Max then finishes the song and begins introducing himself, but is interrupted by a caller who asks Chris about the due-date of the [[Dimensional Merge]]. The stream very soon turns into [[Ween|people]] spam-calling over Skype to ask Chris about Sonichu, the Merge, the [[Chaotic Combo]] and various other things. In a subtly revealing moment, one of the calls involves [[Megan Schroeder]], which causes Chris to seemingly have an emotional breakdown. This could be interpreted as a moment of his fantasy world being shattered, and the reality of his past mistakes coming back to hit him. However, this moment is brief, and he goes right back to roleplaying as Sonichu. <br /> <br /> Chris then asks Noah to mute the calls and Max goes back to introducing himself, but is once again interrupted by more calls coming in. For the rest of the interview, Chris larped about his delusions, the Loyal Fanbase including a few enablers and weens called in, Chris left his mic on while he went to the bathroom, and Max suffered on the inside until he finally decided to leave at the 1:02:00 mark.<br /> <br /> Despite recent circumstances, Chris reveals that [[Chris and health#Hygiene|instead of thoroughly washing his hands]], he prefers to coat his fingers and fingerless gloves in hand sanitizer. <br /> <br /> Over time, it became increasingly clear that the interview was set up by Noah to harass Chris (primarily through refusing to block other [[ween]]s attempting to spam the phone, which some viewers suspect was set to automatically answer any incoming calls) and show up Max, a move that was met with significant amounts of criticism by viewers both on YouTube and elsewhere.<br /> <br /> == Noah's Response ==<br /> Ween Noah later gave his input on the live stream. <br /> <br /> {{quoteboxred|i see a lot of people saying i was trying to use chris or something. however, i've been irl friends with chris for like a year and a half now and this was always set up to be a show with both of us since we first started talking about it.<br /> <br /> to address the comment about putting a woman on the phone: even the caller and his fiance knew it was a joke. what is this 1930? of course it's a joke to ask to put a woman on the phone. unwedge your panties.<br /> <br /> also, i have no interest in owning chris. the main joke of the stream was that max and chris would be in the same room, and max was under the assumption this was a local variety show. it was supposed to be a trainwrek and it was. only real technical issue was forgetting to set up skype correctly, but calls were an afterthought.<br /> <br /> i produced a trainwrek for the internet to enjoy and i am being told i was just trying to get clicks on &quot;my show&quot;... lol...<br /> <br /> glad at least some people enjoyed it, chris being one of them.<br /> <br /> ps, max got paid for the appearance.&lt;ref&gt;https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-live-stream-1pm.68553/post-6320248&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> ==Max's Response==<br /> <br /> Max Mandu gave his official response to the stream on his YouTube channel stating he was left in the dark about the nature of the interview.<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|Hi folks. As newcomers to my channel may be aware, I was recently involved in a video that turned out to be the work of a troll and con artist. It's clear it was an attempt to humiliate me. I would like the record to show that I had no knowledge of the show's format or the other guest before I went on. I did speak to the host beforehand to confirm details, but he purposefully misled me. I wholly condemn this and regret my involvement. <br /> <br /> My alarm bells were going off the whole time I was there. I wish I had left sooner - I only didn't because in such an unexpected scenario, I didn't know how to react. <br /> <br /> I'm immensely thankful for all the kind messages of support I have received as a result. It goes to show that the good in the world will always outweigh the bad. This has not discouraged me from pursuing music; rather, I am all the more determined to continue practicing my art and putting positive content out into the world. <br /> <br /> If you would like to hear more of my studio recordings and support me directly, you can stream or purchase my music on Bandcamp: https://maxmandu.bandcamp.com/ <br /> <br /> Thanks for your support!<br /> - Max&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI5HdYHj9yIaZpcyrc2sQvg/community&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> ==Video==<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Chris Chan &amp; Max Mandu LIVE | Leftovers Tonight<br /> | video = {{#ev:archiveorg|chris-chan-max-mandu-live-leftovers-tonight-2020-04-19-11-27-27}}<br /> | stardate = 19 [[April 2020]]<br /> | subject = {{Comics|text}} {{Other|text}}<br /> | style = {{Crazy|text}}<br /> | shirt = A Sonichu and Rosechu Valentine<br /> | saga = <br /> | previous = [[Analysis_Anarchy_Reaction_Livestreams#Reaction_Video:_Red_Vs_Blue_Part_1|Reaction Video: Red Vs Blue Part 1]]<br /> | next = [[Analysis_Anarchy_Reaction_Livestreams#TF2_Analysis_Anarchy_Red_Vs_Blue_Part_2_Reaction_Video|TF2 Analysis Anarchy Red Vs Blue Part 2 Reaction Video]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Transcript of &quot;Chris Chan &amp; Max Mandu LIVE / Leftovers Tonight&quot;===<br /> <br /> {{Transcription}}<br /> <br /> 0:00:00 - [''A piano cover of the Green Hill Zone theme from Sonic the Hedgehog loops while the stream waits to start.'']<br /> <br /> 0:14:34 - [''Fade in to Noah sitting on a couch. A disturbing drawing of Chris as a bodybuilder hangs behind him. Chris's arm is visible at the edge of the frame.'']<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Hello everybody, and welcome to Leftovers Tonight. Today I have assembled some of Augusta County's most talented people to discuss their art and their careers. Starting today is musician Max Mandu, who is a local talent out of Charlottesville. He's going to be playing a little ditty for us, and then we'll speak with Sonichu, in the body of Christine Weston Chandler. All of this coming up shortly after a musical, uh, song by Max Mandu. Alright Max.<br /> <br /> 00:15:12 - '''Max''': Alright, thank you. [''Max begins playing guitar/harmonica. Chris begins moving his lower leg in rhythm with the song.''] This song is called &lt;i&gt;Malachi&lt;/i&gt;.<br /> <br /> [''A Skype call can faintly be heard coming in. Max continues unfazed. Chris does air guitar.'']<br /> <br /> 00:19:19 - [''Max finishes the song.'']<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Wow, that was really good.<br /> <br /> '''Max''': Thanks a lot!<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Thank you very much for that. That was really good. (to &lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu) What did you think of that?<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: Loved it! Very tuneful.<br /> <br /> '''Max''': Thank you very much!<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': It was very tuneful. That's very--that's true. So, uh, Max, tell me a little bit about, you know... You can put your guitar away and all that.<br /> <br /> '''Max''': Sure.<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Tell me a little bit about your career.<br /> <br /> '''Max''': Alright, for sure. So, I am Max Mandu. I'm from northern Virginia. I live here in Charlottesville now.<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': [''Points at camera.''] You can look at...<br /> <br /> '''Max''': Oh, this one. Alright.<br /> <br /> 0:19:50 - [A Skype call comes in.]<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Oh, we have a caller!<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: Call on line one!<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Hello, caller, can you hear me?<br /> <br /> '''Caller 1''': [''The speaker is a distance from the microphone, impacting the audibility of the call.''] Yes, I can hear you, how are you?<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': I'm great. How are you?<br /> <br /> '''Caller 1''': I'm good. Um, I understand that you have, uh, Christine Weston Chandler on the show right now?<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Uh, no, we actually have Sonichu in the body of Christine Weston Chandler on the show right now.<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: 'Ello, 'ello!<br /> <br /> Caller 1: Alright, um, yeah. I just have a question. So, um, what is... Do you have a new date for the [[Dimensional Merge]] at this time?<br /> <br /> [''Sonichu raises Chris's hands in defeat and sighs.'']<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': So, I don't know if the audience could hear that but they asked if you have a due date for the original Merge.<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: Yeah, not an exact due date but-- [''another Skype call starts to come in''] it's in progress and incoming... We can't take too many incoming calls!<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': I'm just gonna merge 'em all. Everyone can speak at the same time.<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: Oh, boy. And now this talk show really gets crazy 'cause '''I PUT THIS LINK UP''' [[Chris and reality|'''ON MY TWI'''-- on the Twi-- on Momma's Twitter account]].<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Yeah, you put it on the Twitter, so now everyone's joining.<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: (laughs) This'll go for more than an hour!<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': Well, is the caller still there?<br /> <br /> 0:21:02 - '''Caller 1''': Now, with that being said, [''call connects to the stream's audio and becomes more audible''] um, what is, where is Christine at this time, uh, Sonichu? [''Max looks slightly annoyed.'']<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: Okay, so...<br /> <br /> '''Noah''': We're at, uh, a studio location.<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: Yeah, we're at a studio location in Virginia right now.<br /> <br /> '''Caller 1''': No! No! No! Like, like--<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: I got the question--<br /> <br /> '''Caller 1''': I, whenever--<br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: Momma is in [[C-197]] in [[Barb|a future version of this body]]. And, in my body is a future version of myself, and eventually [''another call starts coming in'']<br /> <br /> 1:08:47-'''Caller''': Hey, can I speak to Megan Schroader?<br /> <br /> [''Chris exhibits visual distress at the mention of the name''] <br /> <br /> &lt;font color=&quot;#0033FF&quot;&gt;'''&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu'''&lt;/font&gt;: [''stumbles over words''] She is somewhere else! [''emotional sigh and an appearance of almost being on the brink of tears'']<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> {{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Analysis_Anarchy_Reaction_Livestreams#Reaction_Video:_Red_Vs_Blue_Part_1|Reaction Video: Red Vs Blue Part 1]]|nextlink=[[Analysis_Anarchy_Reaction_Livestreams#TF2_Analysis_Anarchy_Red_Vs_Blue_Part_2_Reaction_Video|TF2 Analysis Anarchy Red Vs Blue Part 2 Reaction Video]]}}<br /> {{People}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Kick_the_Autistic&diff=350322 2025-10-21T01:43:25Z

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YET NOW I, A FRUSTRATED HIGH-FUNCTIONALLY AUTISTIC [[Virgin with rage|25-YEAR OLD VIRGIN]], HAVE BEEN BALLZ-BROKEN LIKE I HAVE THROUGH A BIG CHUNK OF MY LIFE IN AMERICA'S FAVORITE GAME, &quot;KICK THE AUTISTIC!&quot;|Chris, coining the phrase [[Chris and contests|after taking a loss in a contest pretty well]].}}<br /> [[Image:KickTheAutisticWii.jpg|thumb|Game of the Year, every year. Available on the Wii...]]<br /> <br /> '''Kick the Autistic''' is a phrase first coined by [[Chris]] when he complained about not receiving preferential treatment for having [[autism]], shortly after he lost [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]]. Soon the phrase developed into a game that consists of doing anything [[Chris]] doesn't like. He alleges it is America's favorite, owing to the frequency of his [[trolls|antagonists]] (perceived and real) playing it. <br /> <br /> ==Variations==<br /> [[File:Kta.PNG|thumb|...and on the [[Car pranks|blatantly-stupid]] [[HEXBox]]!]]<br /> There are many known variations of the game, and below are the most noteworthy.<br /> <br /> ===Artistic Style===<br /> Enter a [[Chris_and_contests|competition]] of artistry where Chris is also competing, and [[Honor roll|beat him]]. This is generally easily done by showing any sort of competence. Favored by [[Manchester High School#Graduation|his fellow students]] and [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|that no-good]] [[Adam Stackhouse]]. Beware: Chris may [[CWC is Angry|get grumpy and print your picture out to shoot at]], beat you up in ''[[Soul Calibur]]'', or make a [[Magical thinking#Voodooism|Lego voodoo doll]] out of you.<br /> <br /> ===Chris Style===<br /> Set yourself up as one of the most visible and recognized representatives of autism within [[Chris and the Internet|internet]] culture. [[Chris and negotiation|Act like an entitled child]], and [[Chris and sex|develop]] horrifying [[recycling|perversions]], which you [[Honest Content|discuss freely]] on [[YouTube]]. Give other autistic people as well as those with [[Asperger syndrome|Asperger's Syndrome]] (which he hates) a bad reputation by association. There is a 100% chance this will result in them trolling you.<br /> <br /> ===[[Mary Lee Walsh]] Style===<br /> Prevent Chris from pursuing his Love Quest by tearing his [[attraction sign]]s down from the corridors of his college, and telling him that this is not a proper way of finding a girlfriend. If he continues, have a meeting with him further forcing him to stop. If he ''still'' continues, suspend him from college for a year.<br /> <br /> ===[[Blanca]] Style===<br /> Pretend to be a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. Take the time to befriend Chris until he trusts you. Once that happens, get him to send you horrific [[Nudes|n00dz]] and [[Medallions|something of value to him]], and record yourself destroying it.<br /> <br /> ===[[Jimmy Hill]] Style===<br /> If you are an artist troll or just bored, plagiarize Chris's own plagiarized comics. Chris is [[Chris and hypocrisy|very defensive]] about the material which he has plagiarized, and he will throw a fit and take [[Chris_and_the_law|legal action]] against you &quot;if not removed by 14 days.&quot;<br /> <br /> ===[[Sweetheart]] Style===<br /> Pretend to befriend Chris, known for being of the completely clueless type and willing to trust anyone who claims to have a [[china]]. Then, when you have gained his trust, tell him to do something amusing. Say you are a woman who is turned on at the thought of him [[recycling]]. Once this happens, put the goods up on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and [[Kiwi Farms]], and sit back as you watch them get their lulz.<br /> <br /> ===[[Man in the Pickle Suit|Pickleman]] Style===<br /> Go to [[Virginia]] and somehow meet up with Chris while wearing a [[pickle]] costume. He will be bewildered by it, and be too powerless to act. Bonus points if you go to him while he's with [[Emily|another girl]], and you can manage to [[Date with Emily|steal his date]] in the process.<br /> <br /> ===[[The Miscreants|Miscreant]] Style===<br /> Set [[Sonichu|events]] in motion that will keep Chris from [[Virgin with rage|ever getting laid]]. Physically [[Chris and health|weaken]] him so that he can't even [[iPods Down and Listen Up|rape]] a woman to lose his virginity, or do anything else for that matter. Extra points for clouding up [[BlueSpike|his]] [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|judgement]]. As an added &quot;fuck you,&quot; send &lt;s&gt;an impostor&lt;/s&gt; [[Liquid Chris|The True and Honest Christian Weston Chandler]] to swipe [[Kacey|his sweetheart.]]<br /> <br /> Keep doing this for the rest of his life, then send him to Hell where he'll be trolled for all eternity...or reincarnated as a pickle; whichever. The current champion of this style is Chris himself.<br /> <br /> ===[[Liquid]] Style===<br /> &lt;s&gt;Pretend that you are&lt;/s&gt; Be the TRUE and ORIGINAL creator of [[Sonichu]], the electric hedgehog Pokémon. Upload videos on [[YouTube]] detailing your many encounters with [[Clyde Cash]] and your success at attracting a boyfriend-free girl. Brag about the millions you have earned thanks to Sonichu, and try to conquer the Sonichu media empire that is rightfully yours. Bonus points if you purchase ad space on the [[CWCipedia]].<br /> <br /> Alec Benson Leary of [[Asperchu]] has used a similar tactic, to much the same effect.<br /> <br /> ===[[Michael Snyder]] Style===<br /> Give Chris [[List of places that have banned Chris|the banhammer]], thus preventing him from going to [[The GAMe PLACe|his favorite establishment]], for [[Chris and anger|no]] [[Chris and his Ego|good]] [[death threats|reason]] other than [[Autism#Chris and other autistics|sheer hatred for autistic people]]. Patiently wait until he tries to come back to his rightful place, and then [[28 October 2011#Email?|rub your legs on his car's bumper in order to fake injury]]. Sue Chris for damages and bribe [[July 2012 Facebook posts#Court|whoever needs to be bribed]]; once this is done, you'll be rolling in the dough.<br /> <br /> ===[[Chris and religion|God]] Style===<br /> Refuse to bail out the one and only Autistic Hero and center of your universe, Christian Weston Chandler of [[Ruckersville, VA]] whenever he hits parked cars, [[28 October 2011|trespasses on private property]], [[Mal-Wart|vandalizes store displays]], [[Affair with Mother|incest]] or [[26 December 2014|macing GameStop employees]]. Grant prayers to people with concerns that aren't half as important as winning glorious victory over the Trolls and Cyber-Bullies. Finally, [[Destruction Of Chris's House|refuse to step in when your Autistic Hero accidentally sets his home ablaze]].<br /> <br /> ===[[Gal pal|Gal Pal]] Style===<br /> Reveal that [[Kellie Andes|you]] were [[Gal pal#Betrayal|just friends with him out of pity]]. Then, when Chris [[Chris and anger|throws a tantrum]] about it, turn that pity into laughter by linking to one of [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|his videos]] for all of his former gal pals to see just how far he's fallen since they've last seen him. Then, when the [[Catherine]] saga is coming to a close, reveal yourself as the fabricating troll mastermind behind both the admitting of befriending Chris out of pity, and the saga itself.<br /> <br /> ===[[Sega]] Style===<br /> Push your biggest fan's buttons by changing the arm color of your main hero from tan to blue. Watch [[Sonic Boom Protests|the hilarity]] [[26 December 2014|ensue.]]<br /> <br /> ===[[Financhu Crisis]] Style===<br /> Grant the Chandlers another mortgage on [[14 Branchland Court]], so they can have more spending money for their hoards, then [[stress]] them out by holding them to a payment plan.<br /> <br /> ===[[Pmurt]] Style===<br /> Gradually work your way up in life to become a billionaire, and eventually the President of the United States. Watch as Chris films himself [[Eid, Pmurt, Eid|threatening death on you by smashing his own toys]].<br /> <br /> ===[[DoopieDoOver|Doopie]] Style===<br /> Be a voice actress/artist who Chris orbits on Twitter. Accept his money to draw art commissions for him, then take cover as [[weens]] make fake pledges on your Patreon while Chris begins calling you &quot;darling&quot; and spamming your business email. Finally, call him out in public for being creepy and spending beyond his means, then step back as Chris tries to win you over by painting a bulls-eye on himself and telling everyone to [[HarassCWCdirectly]]. For bonus points, join the [[Kiwi Farms|trolls' internet forum]] and [[Doopie E-mails|leak the emails he had sent to you]]. Afterwards, have Chris talk with one of your [[LadyOfTheCosmo|best friends]], and have them start a flame war. If done right, have her [[A-Log]] Chris throughout all of her posts for him displaying the same creepy behavior towards her.<br /> <br /> ===[[Jessica Quinn|Quinn]] Style===<br /> Be one of Chris' Facebook friends over a span of years and latch onto him when he's desperate for a girlfriend. As soon as you see him stalking a [[DoopieDoOver|voice actress]] on LazyCast, break up with him, wait for him to film himself crying about it, and then get back together with him. Be sure to goad him into making a rage video cursing [[Kiwi Farms]] trolls by completely ending the relationship one day before you were set to meet in real life and saying that they had hacked your Facebook as the reason.<br /> <br /> ===[[Idea Guy]] Style===<br /> When you notice Chris's [[Chris and reality|detachment from reality]] and [[Autism|his gullibility]], take advantage of both to troll him. First, make up stories about [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|the various happenings]] of [[Sonichu (comic)|his creation]], and then inform Chris about them. Afterward, tell Chris to do a number of ridiculous tasks that you know will fly over his head, whether it be telling him to write &quot;I have a penis&quot; in Japanese, whilst making him think it's his signature, or forcing him to do the ''S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'' chant, whilst making him think it's an [[CWC-isms#A|anchuent]] Cherokean chant. Chris's response to such coercion will vary, so use it wisely. This style is bound to work if you inform him that Rosechu has a pickle, though. As an alternative, you can go the extra mile, and do some of the most deranged stuff any player of the game has commited, whether it be telling him to [[DIRTY,_CRAPPED_BRIEFS|shit]] on the floor, or telling him to physically beat both himself and his mother.<br /> <br /> ===&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter#Blocks Twitter] Style===<br /> Message and harass the Twitter accounts that Chris follows with large amounts of embarrassing information about him in order to get Chris [[Twitter blocks from TF2 Analysis crew|blocked]] from viewing those accounts.<br /> <br /> ===[[ProjectSNT]] Style===<br /> Redesign some of Chris's characters and [[Stress|watch his mind completely break because he doesn't like a certain design element.]]<br /> <br /> ===[[Jacob Sockness|Sockness]] Style===<br /> Hijack Chris' delusions and tell him that he has to have sex with you in order for them to come true. Spend thousands of dollars for the opportunity to get access to Chris, only for him to epically shut you down.<br /> <br /> ===[[Null]] Style===<br /> Run the website [[Kiwi Farms]] (Formely [[CWCki Forums]]) and build an alliance with Chris, protect him from [[weens]], and help him when he needed it. When the [[Affair with Mother|incest allegations]] come to light, be suspicious of him and start a conversation, find out that he lied about his financial situation and stole money from [[Barbara]] (forbidden by an [[Emergency Protective Order]] against Chris) and cut all ties.<br /> <br /> ===[[Weens|Trollshielding]] Style===<br /> [[File:ChrisKicksHirtes.png|thumb|How to lose the game spectacularly]]<br /> <br /> If you have [[weening|no creativity]] or aren't skilled enough to execute the above versions of play properly, but you want to use Chris's tard rage [[a-logging|to cover up your lulzyness]], you may want to use this variation of the game as a last resort. You'll see why this is a very bad idea as soon as you've read the instructions. First, you'll either want to [[Michael Hirtes|create close to ten Twitter sockpuppet accounts to spam and flame Chris with]], or [[A-log|create a YouTube channel solely dedicated to subpar commentaries on his older videos]]. Once you've farmed enough content, share your hard work and effort to get as many desperate upvotes and views as possible. If somebody figures out your shenanigans, do not fret. Just try to cover it up in a half-assed fashion, even if you stupidly include your own profile pic in one of the screenshots you sent to the [[Kiwi Farms]]. Even after you've been called out on your bullshit, simply continue attacking Chris on your preferred platform every time he posts new content, usually with some dead meme that anyone else would find cringy or by telling the rest of the world how horrible Chris is compared to you. All and all, you should never try to play the game this way, as you are always going to lose regardless of how you try to execute it. Chris will never respond to your unfunny commentaries let alone rage over them. Plus, all of your desperate trollshielding and spamming will only lead you to being mocked even more. Double Dumbass points if it is Chris who ends up kicking you instead.<br /> <br /> ===[[Hasbro]] Style===<br /> Conclude his [[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic|favorite TV show]] and replace it with [[My Little Pony: Make Your Mark|something else]]. Then [[February 2024 social media posts#RussiaIsMLPG5|make a presentation]] showing off the new show to the [[Russia]]n market. Sit back and enjoy.<br /> <br /> ===[[Praetor]] Style===<br /> Turn Chris into your personal cash cow, consolidate power while he's in jail, and then curate his actions upon release. This allows for [[Flutter|long periods of hiatus]], sometimes in [[Finland|another country]], punctuated by live streams and [[Transformers#Transformers Legacy United Merged|toy reviews.]] All the while parlaying his brand into an [[OfficialCWCmart|eshop]] where weens blow their [[Tugboat|NEETbux]] on memorabilia that may or may not be bootlegs. [[Touching the Poop#Sonichu Medallion Curse|The medallions must flow.]] <br /> <br /> ===Literally===<br /> Examples of literally kicking the autistic include: the teachers at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] (allegedly), [[Jerkop]]s (probably exaggerated), [[Niggos#Niggos in Chris's life|TJ from GAMe PLACe]] (almost), and the staff at [[Western State Hospital]] (allegedly).<br /> <br /> Chris has never experienced any substantial physical pain in his entire life that we know of; no broken bones or bare knuckle fights. His parents never raised a hand against him. There is also no evidence of him ever being grounded, or punished in any significant way – even after being [[Bob Walks In|caught masturbating in the kitchen]]! The only citation provided by Chris of physical pain whatsoever is an anecdotal story about the time that [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] tried to teach him how to roller-skate. Chris fell and skinned his knee, vowing never to roller-skate again.<br /> <br /> Because Chris has never been through the &quot;school of hard knocks&quot; ([[Charlottesville_Fashion_Square#Chris_vs._Fashion_Square|even running away if a confrontation seems imminent]]), he seems pretty confident that he [[Mary Lee Walsh|can]] [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|tell]] [[Clyde Cash|any]][[Michael Snyder|one]] [[Death threats|any]][[Chris and race|thing]] [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|he]] [[Michael_Snyder_is_ColdHearted_and_Mean|wants]] without fear of consequence. On [[28 October 2011]] and [[26 December 2014]], respectively, Chris committed crimes which could have seen him end up in jail, where inmates don't take kindly to [[Chris and anger|temper tantrums]]. [[Jail Saga|When it finally happened]], Chris was given solitary confinement, which helped him avoid any further attempts at being a part of this game.<br /> <br /> ==Uses by Chris==<br /> Recorded examples of this particular [[CWC-isms|CWC-ism]] include the following:<br /> <br /> *In the e-mail he sent to Sony after losing [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], Chris blamed his failure on &quot;AMERICA'S FAVORITE GAME, 'KICK THE AUTISTIC!'&quot;<br /> *At the same time, in his first [[PSN blogs|PSN blog entry]] cursing [[Adam Stackhouse]], he bitched and mixed his metaphors about how &quot;I have been the dog in America's favorite game, 'KICK THE AUTISTIC' for my whole life.&quot;<br /> *After finding out that [[PandaHalo|Panda]] was a troll during [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], Chris whined, &quot;And so, the world continues to play the world's favorite game of 'Kick the Autistic'.&quot;<br /> *Addressing [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] users on [[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#21 January|21 January 2008]], Chris wrote ''&quot;And if you have so much free time to play the cruelest game of &quot;KICK THE AUTISTIC&quot;, [[Chris and hypocrisy|then you CAN and SHOULD put the time to better use; volunteer for a social chore; take up the culture in tasteful art; go out and socialize.]]&quot;'' in an attempt to get them to back off.<br /> *A variation was used in Chris's second version of [[It's UGH!#Remake|Ok2bgay]], with Chris opening the video with the words &quot;Merry Kickmas&quot;.<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Jerkop]]<br /> *[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] - Former [[Video games|Nintendo of America]] president, hoping to release Kick the Autistic on all major [[Nintendo]] consoles in time for [[Christmas]].<br /> *[[Trolls]]<br /> *[[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|Pin the Autistic]] – The prequel to America's favorite game.<br /> *[[List of places that have banned Chris|Ban the Autistic]] – The spin-off to America's favorite game.<br /> *[[TF2 Analysis|Block the Autistic]] – The hit sequel to America's favorite game.<br /> <br /> {{CWC-isms}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:CWC-isms]][[Category:Things Chris hates]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=December_2023_social_media_posts&diff=349564 2025-09-26T01:58:26Z

<p>Homsar: /* 12 Previous Lives */</p> <hr /> <div>This page is an archive of Chris's social media posts during [[December 2023]]. Unless otherwise indicated, the posts are on [[Twitter]] and from the account @CPU_CWCSonichu.<br /> <br /> ==Elon Musk==<br /> 2 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:53 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Elon Musk|[''posts a meme reading:'']<br /> <br /> HERE I AM, THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD, PHILOSEMITE CLIMATE CRUSADER<br /> <br /> AND I STILL GET SHIT FROM IDIOTS}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|The only shit you get is from yourself, due to the lack of authentic deep spiritual satisfaction, insights and connections with everything without the need of technology. Meditate on that, Elon.}}<br /> <br /> ==Transformers and GoBots==<br /> 3 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 5:16 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I’m asking, but here’s food for thought, would #Transformers and #GoBots still be popular as they are, or would the two popularities be switch if the staff behind both shows had made the opposite shows; #HannaBarbara for Transformers and #Sunbow for Challenge of the GoBots?<br /> <br /> [''posts screenshots of the series'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Joshua Martinez==<br /> 4 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 2:13 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Plautistic|[[Joshua Martinez]] <br /> <br /> The man with the reputation, ladies came running just for him, stars like Megan fox and Jessica Alba. he’s one lucky S.O.B, Joshua Martínez aka Lori Lopez, aka Vanessa Hudgens, Fueling the jealousy of @CPU_CWCSonichu<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;#sonichu #chrischan&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> [[File:X - Plautistic Joshua Martinez fan art.png|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|😂ROFL! Man, if you think Josh was built buff like Chris Evans or Lucas Lee, you’re Waay off. He pretty much had a string bean build with some physical strength within it when I last saw him Years ago.}}<br /> <br /> ==Sonic character Rouge==<br /> 4 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 2:14 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxred|speaker=Skyla|NO WAY THIS IS REAL???<br /> <br /> This doesn’t sound like Rouge at ALL<br /> <br /> I didn’t think her voice could get worse 😭}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Yep. That’s different.}}<br /> <br /> ==BronyCon memories==<br /> 4 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 9:43 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Gleamy Dreams ~|Pony con goers! Which convention did you go to first? Which one did you have the most fun at?}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|BronyCon, and I had most fun at the 2019 BronyCon. I enjoyed my first time going in 2017, and I am very thankful and treasure my [[Dancing with Magi-Chan|first dance with Magi-Chan Sonichu Prime at the Grand Galloping Gala.]] But I actually felt more accustomed and welcomed in the 2019 convention. Not to mention at the G.G.G., I Literally spoke and sang along with the show and cast members there as they did, confirming my premonition abilities further in witness of the others around Cryzel Rosechu and I there.<br /> <br /> ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Duolingo==<br /> 4 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:36 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I’m a Galactic Legend! What’s your [[Duolingo]] learner style? #Duolingo365}}<br /> <br /> ==Bowser and Peach==<br /> 4 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 11:31 PM<br /> <br /> [''In response to a YouTube video, [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sckciaFN70g Super Mario Bros. Wonder - Peach and Bowser - Nintendo Switch (SEA)'']:]<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Wow! Bowser REALLY had to think about how he felt about Peach. Also, does it feel similar to Kermit and Piggy?}}<br /> <br /> ==Unicorn JasperPie==<br /> 6 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 7:24 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Check it out. I found Unicorn #JasperPie.<br /> <br /> https://sagecrystals.com/blogs/properties/unicorn-stone<br /> <br /> [''posts images of the stone and of Jasper Pie's OC'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Defending JasperPie==<br /> 7 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:31 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=GilmourBear001|I never liked #dajoestanator / #jasperpie tbh.<br /> <br /> Just like #heelsvsbabyface, he's Not really that funny at all.}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I like #JasperPie; he is funny, and he is genuinely one of the actual Good, Light Powered individuals on this planet. Not only that, but his energy and aura resonates well and strong.<br /> <br /> So, yeah, “Who better to cook a pie than a pie who can jazz it up with compassion and fun.”<br /> <br /> ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==10 million YouTube views==<br /> 7 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:44 AM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Well, with a bit of input from Mary Sue’s best friend, I have just confirmed my ⁦@YouTube⁩ Channel’s view count. Awesome.<br /> <br /> [[File:GenerateMilestoneImage.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Coco Pomell==<br /> 7 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:49 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Gleamy Dreams ~|How many of you remember her? 💙<br /> <br /> Bonus: What is her name? Any fun stories about it?<br /> <br /> [''posts a ''[[My Little Pony]]'' gif'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Coco Pomell.}}<br /> <br /> ==MLP G5 meltdown==<br /> 8 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:42 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Letupita725HD★ ❄️|She's defrosted! ☃️🎶<br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;#mylittlepony #mlpfim #pinkiepie #december1st&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> [''posts a gif from ''[[My Little Pony]]'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|My Little Pony Generation Five, aka “Make Your Mark”, “A New Generation”, etcetera is not meant to exist in this timeline at all during this time. You would be doing this Entire Timeline a huge positive, manifesting favor if you would, please, Remove Everything G5 from your YouTube Channel, Twitter and all social media.<br /> <br /> It is pure and simple that G4, Friendship is Magic and Equestria Girls, is meant to be continued for until Season 14, Episode 26 of FiM, and not sooner. This is a Divine and Light Powered fact for this very timeline that delving into metaphysics remains what is absolutely best for everything and everyone in this universe and timeline, period.<br /> <br /> It has nothing to do with the quality of MLP G5, even though it has proven itself in foretold confirmation how all over and not sure what it wants to be at all and Literally Paradoxically all over the place, making the seed that started WWIII, as is. The removal of MLP G5 and resuming MLP G4 directly on Hasbro’s part would only prove restorative and beneficial.<br /> <br /> Please, Miss, take a stand with us in what is right by removing Everything MLP G5 from your YouTube and social media.<br /> <br /> I speak in connections with the one Alpha/Omega Point of all existence as the One Avatar of all existence.<br /> <br /> Thank you. ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Equestria Girls character==<br /> 8 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:43 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Gleamy Dreams ~|Who is this green haired girl? I forgot.<br /> <br /> [''posts a gif of an ''[[Equestria Girls]]'' character'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Wallflower Blush}}<br /> <br /> ==Transformers figs==<br /> 8 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 2:50 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Kay’s Art and Whatnot|should I post more pics of my transformers figs, I got a lot and I wanna do some funky stuff with them. #Transformers}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I say go for it. Been there and done that with the Autobots of Cwcville, and even have found the Combiner Team that joined them soon enough. Feel blessed with the creativity and connections with the Cybertronians, Gobots, Velocitronians, and so on; have fun and enjoy yourself with no need for concern of discovering and manifesting those that have been around before putting that pen to draw them on literal or digital paper.<br /> <br /> ⚡️💙⚡️<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Samurai Pizza Bots TSSSF.jpeg<br /> File:X - 8Dec23 - ToysPhoto1.jpg ‎<br /> File:X - 8Dec23 - ToysPhoto2.jpg ‎<br /> File:X - 8Dec23 - ToysPhoto3.jpg ‎<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Sexual predator==<br /> 11 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:01 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Gleamy Dreams ~|REPOST if you are AGAINST s*xual predators being welcomed back into our community only because they apologized after getting caught!}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|The misunderstandings linger from those who misconceive of others’ intentions or lack thereof in pure accident or happenstance. Do not be closed-minded to apologies, and when one has authentically done nothing wrong, or is not guilty of anything, especially after being proven this in court of law, they are to be welcomed back into society, period, without any further bias based on the past misconceptions.<br /> <br /> ⚡️💙⚡️<br /> <br /> As for those who have and are, or have, redeemed themselves, proper, let them be welcomed, and if they act improperly again, then they are shown to require more time to meditate and reflect for themselves.<br /> <br /> [''posts an anime gif of a woman slapping a man'']}}<br /> <br /> (NOTE: Chris was not found innocent in court for his [[Affair with Mother|affair with his mother]]; he was placed on an [[Autism_disorder_deferred_disposition|autism deferred disposition]] program which he completed in exchange for the court dropping its incest charge.)&lt;ref&gt;[[Jail Saga#Pleadings/Orders Detail]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Rick and Morty-based lore==<br /> 11 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:05 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Also, Season 7, Episode 9 of Rick and Morty is quite accurate.<br /> <br /> Even in the cold open, it shows Rick &quot;kind of&quot; confirming the Heaven Realm with Jerry's help, and it's actually nearly on point with that of this Universe's Core and Matrix, which is the real Heaven Realm, or neutral transition area of the soul of most everyone.<br /> <br /> Very few even go beyond that through the Universe Core's Matrix and into the Timeline's Core, and hardly any, I, aside from that, going through the Timeline's Core's Matrix and into the Alpha/Omega Point of existence, as well as its Matrix, and even beyond that to essentially break out of the Matrix, like in the movies, albeit Spiritually and without as much technology, not counting that which is used to help generate the specific frequencies to aid in focus.<br /> <br /> But even with those binaural beats, alone, that will still only get you as far as into the Timeline's Core, breaking out of the Universe Core's Matrix.<br /> <br /> Which also backs up the fact that I have presented in writing that Even an Athiest can find Spiritual Revelations and Light Power for themselves.<br /> <br /> And in that, there is another energy collective that exists when those that deviate so far from that of the Universe's Core that they escape that collective and deviate into another with the various variables rather that be the sins and regrets, levels of doubt or those that have authentically achieved greater spirituality. There is one collective of the Toxic and Darkest Sinning ones that is considered the Hell Realm, which is a branch separate from the Universe Core.<br /> <br /> But here is also where the Soul Bonding aspect comes into effect. You have the neurotypical collective, as now chronicled in this episode's cold open, which is the first outer layer of the Universe Core. And depending on how much accumulated guilt, doubt and sins there is, the worse that collective is. The more red or black the aura or energy that individual becomes, the worse the transitional period they will have.<br /> <br /> At intervals in my immortal life, including when I was crucified on the cross, I had accumulated the harmful energies of those along the way, while still remaining as good as possible with the help and support of the other Gods and Goddesses and the Light Power Divine Guidance, I totally cleansed that collective of the red and black vibes and energy, converiting it into calming Blue, like the Blue Flames.<br /> <br /> But that can only be a temporary solution, because another collective will sprout from the next really dark energy type, and then it grows to an out of control level, which then is addressed by I or one of the other Gods and Goddesses.<br /> ⚡️💙⚡️🌈💎}}<br /> <br /> ==Son-Chu and the Autobots==<br /> 12 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 3:31 PM<br /> <br /> In reply to his [[December 2023 social media posts#Transformers figs|his previous post]]:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Son-Chu and his Autobot Team have been helping in defending Cwcville and the Earth for Decades now. Backstories, simple yet a bit complicated, but they fight in and out of Cwcville when Decepticons and large kaiju-size threats are abound. And Giovanni and Eggman are only a trifle compared to them.<br /> <br /> [''posts a ''[[Transformers]]'' gif'']}}<br /> <br /> ==MLP G4==<br /> 12 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:40 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Field Marshal Dinkledash|[''responding to a Hasbro post on the reduction of its employee numbers'']<br /> <br /> This could have been prevented by continuing G4.}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|That is more so what I have foretold and said over and over again! @Hasbro can still redeem themselves by shelving G5 completely and resuming Friendship is Magic and Equestria Girls. ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Comic sales==<br /> 12 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 11:49 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Gleamy Dreams ~|Tell me your favorite G4 fan headcanons?? Pleeeeease?<br /> <br /> Tell me all of them, even if they're canonically wrong!}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I remain quite content with this contribution of mine, and we will have printed copies available once again soon enough on [[OfficialCWCmart|the Etsy store]]. And I Do receive the money from the sales, period. ⚡️💙⚡️<br /> <br /> [[File:Sonichu Book 12-9 cover (photo).jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Festive Holiday Greetings artwork==<br /> 13 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 8:52 AM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Festive Holiday Greetings during a visit to the old forest home of Sonichu Prime (from when he was a Pichu and Pikachu) outside of Station Square, Rhode Island. A recent commission.<br /> <br /> The U.S. Starters are in the picture; wait til later to get the evolution lines of Mocktur, Meeper and Teddipig. That’s nothing, wait til you learn of the Eight Legendary U.S. Pokémon; one for each Chakra Point, with Love and Hart. 💚<br /> <br /> The fanfics from y’all inspired from that are not canon.<br /> <br /> [[File:Art-03Dec2023 - Festive Holiday Greetings.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Card compliment==<br /> 13 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 3:36 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Dobbs|I officially own the only PSA 10 of my @NostalgixTCG trading card 🥲<br /> <br /> [''posts image of it'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Very nice. 😊}}<br /> <br /> ==Cards with good soul==<br /> 13 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 3:39 PM<br /> <br /> In reply to his [[December 2023 social media posts#Card compliment|his previous post]]:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Some cards have more good soul and aura hand drawn. #SecretShipficFolder<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Patreoncard1.jpg<br /> File:NightStarAuthorCard.jpg<br /> File:Oct15card.jpg<br /> File:WarriorAuthorRoseyCard.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;}}<br /> <br /> ==Asking empathy from gifters==<br /> 13 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 6:32 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I felt it well advised to state this once: if anyone wants to send me a gift, like something from @Amazon, consider this in authentic empathy: <br /> <br /> If you were I, would you Really want a joke or gag gift that shows off a meme or anything in really bad taste?<br /> <br /> Or would you rather feel better receiving a gift that was thought of with care and common sense to the needs, interests and things you actually like and take interest in?<br /> <br /> Just consider that and gift to me kindly as you would, or want to for, yourself.<br /> <br /> Meditate on that. ⚡️💙⚡️<br /> <br /> [''posts a gif of a Christmas tree'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Boogie2988==<br /> 14 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:07 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Boogie2988|We have lived together for 6 months!<br /> <br /> I know some of you find it creepy but we are both happy as a couple can be!<br /> <br /> For those who love seeing us happy we will see you at the one year mark!<br /> <br /> [[File:Boogie2988.jpeg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I, for one, appreciate and like seeing you both content and mutually appreciating each other as soul mates. It is very good.}}<br /> <br /> ==Sonic's powers==<br /> 14 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:09 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=🌴SpeederLight🌴|Do you like Sonic having electricity or having the wind as his power?}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Personally, why not both? Look at Sonichu Prime, for one. Sonic ended up with a bit of extra zap in his step long after the collision with the Pikachu back in February, 2003; it was inevitable. ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Remastered Sonic games?==<br /> 14 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:11 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=🌴SpeederLight🌴|If you were able to work at sega, which sonic games would you remake/remaster?}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Remake Sonic 06, and make Sonichu Adventure.}}<br /> <br /> ==Criticizing Geno's medallion product==<br /> 14 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:19 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxorange|speaker=Tyler Mason|@genosamuelgeno He's here and he's perfect<br /> <br /> [[File:X-Tyler Mason - Sonichu medallion by Geno photo.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Geno Samuel|Many many thanks ♥️}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Geno. Don’t even with the “Certificate”. 3D Printed never surpasses the full soul effort in hand-crafting. It’s not funny.<br /> <br /> [''posts a reaction gif of cartoon character Nicole Watterson from The Amazing World of Gumball'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Equestria Girls cancellation==<br /> 14 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:52 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=LuigiGamer - My Little Pony &amp; Gaming|I still can’t get over the fact Hasbro cancelled Equestria Girls were they were planning to bring Sunset’s Human Counterpart for Season 3.}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|It shall be uncancelled with the resuming of Friendship Is Magic (G4) not long from now. ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Teletraan==<br /> 14 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:56 AM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Time to boot up Teletraan 2023 for later today.<br /> <br /> [''posts a Transformers gif'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Technical difficulties==<br /> 14 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 7:09 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[''links to [[Fan Mail and Cwcville Autobots]] part 2'']<br /> <br /> My bad. Technical difficulties.}}<br /> <br /> ==Blessed and immortal Sonic==<br /> 15 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:02 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=🌴SpeederLight🌴|I SERIOUSLY WONDER IF SONIC REALLY IS GOING TO DIE! IM NOT READY T-T}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|No. [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] is [[Chris and death|immortal]]; [[Jesus Christ|he has risen]] time and again. He is Blessed as such. ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Pokemon rant==<br /> 15 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:11 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|To answer the present FAQ, as exemplified last night:<br /> <br /> In #Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, I have not even entered the School in Paldea/Mexico at all. I refuse to do so on literal Divine Timing and Intervention until only after when I, personally, and @Nintendo work together and manifest #PokemonLightningBolt, #PokemonDivaPink and #PokemonBatteryChargeBlue version that cover America and includes Cwcville, VA and the Sonichu and Rosechu species and Evolution Line.<br /> <br /> I personally affirm that like My Little Pony G5 (“Make Your Mark”, “Tell Your Tale” and “A New Generation”) from @Hasbro, this has nothing to do with the quality of the game or related media, but that Scarlet and Violet are Premature, and should not have existed Yet, as I have stated clearly and direct, in this Timeline.<br /> <br /> Like My Little Pony and Equestria Girls (G4), they shall be resumed by Divine Intervention and command, and the Pokémon of America shall preceded the Pokémon of Paldea/Mexico in the National Pokédex.<br /> <br /> There Shall be a massive retcon in Scarlet and Violet, period. Lightning Bolt, Diva Pink and Battery Charge Blue Versions shall be manifested in proper, official, personal collaboration and business. And Rosey, Rosechu, Vamprosa, Sonee, Sonichu and Metonic shall occupy National Pokédex Numbers 978, 979, 980, 981, 982 and 983, respectively.<br /> <br /> @Bulbapedia shall also be retconned and updated in this as well.<br /> <br /> That is all for now. Thank you.<br /> ⚡️💙⚡️🌈💎<br /> <br /> [''posts a gif of a character saying, &quot;I wanna go home,&quot; then vanishing'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Pokemon rant, part 2==<br /> 15 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:14 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|In other words: Mystery Gifts aside, I shall not resume #Pokemon Scarlet or Violet until After #PokemonLightningBolt, #PokemonDivaPink and #PokemonBayteryChargeBlue are fully and properly manifested on the #NintendoSwitch by @Nintendo and I in collaboration, and the National Pokédex are retconned and updated.<br /> <br /> ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Happy birthday==<br /> 15 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:16 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Scribbler|BALLOON DAY!}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Oh! Happy Birthday, Scribbler. 😊}}<br /> <br /> ==12 Previous Lives==<br /> 15 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:18 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I feel like mentioning this, but someone, or likely more than one of the individuals online have speculated my “12 Previous Lives”; this was noted in a letter I received in my P.O. Box. But I attest and affirm, I was never ever any of these twelve individuals, period. ⚡️💙⚡️<br /> <br /> [[File:X 15Dec23 - - pobox letter.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> Transcript:&lt;br&gt;<br /> Virginia Bruce (1910 - 1982)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Winslow Homer (1836 - 1910)&lt;br&gt;<br /> William B Travis (1809 - 1836)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Johann Gottfried Eckard (1735 - 1809)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Polyxena of Hesse-Rotenburg (1706 - 1735)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Pierre Verdier (1627 - 1706)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Thomas Middleton (1580 - 1627)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Isabel Worthingston (1547 - 1580)&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[Anne Boleyn|Henry VIII]] (1491 - 1547)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Onorato II Caetani (1414 - 1491)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Thomas Arundel (1353 - 1414)&lt;br&gt;<br /> Simeon of Moscow (1317 - 1353)<br /> <br /> ==OnlyFans==<br /> 16 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 12:49 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Boogie2988|[''responding to a user's question on if his girlfriend will do OnlyFans'']<br /> <br /> We have talked about doing like a pg-13 cosplay kind of thing. <br /> <br /> But she’s never gonna show you pictures of her ssshole. Both of us, currently, have at least the tiniest shreds of self respect.}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Very good on both of you setting that boundary and rule for yourselves. 😊<br /> <br /> That is certainly a sign of self-maturity and self-respect I appreciate.}}<br /> <br /> ==Green Transformers==<br /> 18 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 12:49 AM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|In regards to [[Fan Mail and Cwcville Autobots|my recent live stream]], this is Rollout of Cwcville’s Autobot team. I told you he was green.<br /> <br /> [[File:X - Green Transformer - 17Dec2023.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==AI Funko Pops==<br /> 18 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 2:18 AM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=WarhammerDave|@CPU_CWCSonichu what's your pop funko made by Bing AI image creator look like?<br /> <br /> Here's mine<br /> <br /> [''posts images'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|[[File:X - AIFunko1 - 17Dec2023 1.jpg|200px]]<br /> [[File:X - AIFunko1 - 17Dec2023 2.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Gwen Mikoto lore==<br /> 18 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 5:39 PM<br /> <br /> Chris posts lore on [[Gwen Mikoto]].<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Finally put into a figure form, from the times of [[Idea Guys|IdeaGuy]]’s Corruptions of multiple timelines, Gwenmi Mikoto, the evil, deceptive, robot-identifying human who upgraded with a transector.<br /> <br /> [[File:Gwenmi mikoto-min.jpg|200px]]<br /> [[File:X - Gwenmi Transformer1.jpg|200px]]<br /> [[File:X - Gwenmi Transformer2.jpg|200px]]<br /> [[File:X - Gwenmi Transformer3.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Transformers trivia==<br /> 19 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 3:39 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I just noticed this, When did Optimus Prime roll in to fell Crasher? Oh! Mirage-Maker Scooter. 😊<br /> <br /> [[File:X - Transformers screenshot - 19Dec2023 1.jpg|200px]]<br /> [[File:X - Transformers screenshot - 19Dec2023 2.jpg|200px]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Past Ideas Reemerging - Part 1==<br /> 19 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 8:09 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[''Posts link to [[Transformers - Past Ideas Reemerging - Part 1]]'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Immortals and gifts==<br /> 19 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:56 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Calpain|What do you think 1000+ year old alicorns want for their birthdays?<br /> <br /> [''posts fanart of ''[[My Little Pony]]'' character Luna'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Immortal individuals like receiving kind gifts that those who gave them would kindly get for themselves, in a way of sharing a bit of them with the immortal individual. But never joke, meme or cruel-themed gifts. Would one Seriously give themselves anything like that? Nope.⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> ==Mickey and Kermit==<br /> 19 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 11:05 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Lauren Faust and Furious|Ok, let's try again: who was better cast as Bob Cratchitt?<br /> <br /> [''posts screenshots of Mickey Mouse and Kermit the Frog'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|I have actually watched both Mickey’s and Muppet’s Christmas Carol Specials before. I feel Mickey made a better Bob Cratchitt, and the special would have likely done better if it had been a feature length movie as opposed to a half-hour show. But it is still quite good for the show.}}<br /> <br /> ==Post a robot==<br /> 19 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 11:09 PM<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Pixelkitties 🦆|If you see this, post a robot 🤖<br /> <br /> [''posts an image of a ''Dairugger XV'' action figure'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|How about four? Son-Chu, Chris Chan, Silver and Mainframe behind them.<br /> <br /> [[File:X - Custom toys - 19Dec2023.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Livestream announcement (22 December)==<br /> 22 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:01 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Getting markers out for a bit of streaming art later.<br /> <br /> [''posts a gif of a person coloring'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Merry Christmas==<br /> 22 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 7:14 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Merry Christmas! 🎄<br /> <br /> [[File:X - Christmas tree 22Dec2023.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Vert fantasy==<br /> 28 December<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Semi Frequent Neptunia Stuff|You walk into a room and see this sight. What do you do?<br /> <br /> [''posts art of ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]'' character Vert'']}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|time=12:39 AM|I’d greet Vert, kindly, comment in the lovely, mildly cloudy, sunny day in spring, ask how she was doing. Maybe enjoy a pleasant chat, and then move forward with my day bidding her many blessings and successes. ⚡️💙⚡️}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxred|speaker=LIMIT DV JANK|Christine, what would you do if you walked into a room and saw me<br /> <br /> [[File:X - LIMIT DV JANK - 27Dec2023.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|speaker=Chris|time=12:43 AM|I would wish and pray for better blessings for you and continue on my way.}}<br /> <br /> ==Punislavs==<br /> 30 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1:59 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|When the Punislavs formerly of PVCCitizens attack!<br /> <br /> [[File:X - Punislavs1 - 30Dec2023.jpg|200px]]<br /> [[File:X - Punislavs2 - 30Dec2023.jpg|200px]]}}<br /> <br /> ==Past Ideas Reemerging - Part 2==<br /> 30 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 9:58 PM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[''Posts link to [[Transformers - Past Ideas Reemerging - Part 1|Past Ideas Reemerging - Part 2]]'']}}<br /> <br /> ==Happy New Year==<br /> 31 December&lt;br&gt;<br /> 10:37 AM<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Happy New Year!<br /> <br /> [''posts a gif of ''[[Peanuts]]'' character Snoopy celebrating a New Year's'']}}<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> {{Social media}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Saga&diff=348225 2025-08-06T03:13:44Z

<p>Homsar: /* Is there a new Transformers Related Saga? */</p> <hr /> <div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *The current saga should be called the &quot;Revalation&quot; saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br /> * Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> * Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> ==Changes==<br /> So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> * I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> :*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline==<br /> [[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br /> So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br /> :*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> *I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br /> ----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Gregg Mays saga==<br /> Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> <br /> ==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br /> Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br /> * I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ===Actually...===<br /> Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> <br /> *Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called &quot;CWCipedia saga&quot; since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Ha i win sucker, I actually like &quot;Cwc saga&quot; as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> ::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br /> <br /> I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of &quot;The WallFlower Incident&quot;, we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Vanessa Saga==<br /> <br /> My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == more saga sum up images ==<br /> <br /> we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br /> [[image:Picture_4.png]]<br /> <br /> == Tito saga ==<br /> <br /> '''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br /> <br /> Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that &quot;Lovely Weather&quot; is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==IRL Saga?==<br /> <br /> It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an &quot;IRL Saga&quot; would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> * I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he &quot;left&quot; the Internet the &quot;CWC Exile Saga&quot;. But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br /> <br /> Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> *It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ****Maybe we should put &quot;interim activities&quot; as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being &quot;off the internet&quot; and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> *****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged &quot;Saga&quot; it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==PS3 Saga?==<br /> <br /> Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==Missing Sagas==<br /> Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br /> *1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==On Sagas==<br /> This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term &quot;saga&quot; gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br /> <br /> What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole &quot;saga&quot; thing. You have Chris and &quot;Miyamoto&quot; talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br /> <br /> So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not &quot;You calling Chris saga.&quot; Chris dressing up as a woman is not &quot;Tomgirl saga.&quot; Seeing Chris at the mall is not &quot;Chris at the mall saga.&quot; Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own &quot;Gigantic Attention Whore saga.&quot; Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br /> <br /> I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> *Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as &quot;X&quot; or as &quot;X Saga&quot;? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> :*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be &quot;Miyamoto Saga e-mails&quot; or &quot;Vanessa Saga chats&quot;? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> ::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Individual Saga pages ==<br /> <br /> I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br /> * EDIT: I noticed there are articles called &quot;Vanessa Saga&quot; and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br /> * I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> **I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such &quot;Jackie Saga&quot;, &quot;Blanca Saga&quot; or &quot;Julie Saga&quot; will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br /> * I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Second Exile saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> - I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br /> <br /> == Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br /> <br /> I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are &quot;taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.&quot;, I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this &quot;Facebook saga&quot; as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that &quot;Catherine saga&quot; at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br /> :Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there an &quot;Ebay&quot; Saga going on right now? ==<br /> <br /> Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br /> <br /> <br /> *I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br /> <br /> *So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br /> <br /> *Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a &quot;Tomgirl Saga, Part 2&quot; sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br /> <br /> In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Boxing Day Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br /> I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the &quot;Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing&quot;, but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br /> --Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br /> <br /> No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br /> --Fredinno<br /> <br /> == Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br /> <br /> Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br /> <br /> chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br /> should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br /> <br /> I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br /> <br /> == Just throwing it out there ==<br /> <br /> I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah. I agree with Ujirat here. Wait and see before declaring the Pmurt Saga. This has the possibility to explode into one of the most interesting sagas since the golden age, but right now, there's really nothing of interest that occurred since Eid, Pmurt, Eid and Feelings of the election results. The fumes are there, all we need is a spark.<br /> <br /> Maybe if Sonichu restarts, he'll include Trump as a villain and Clinton as a Christ like figure? I don't know. All we can do is wait and see (and prepare the popcorn).<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 23:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edits to Megan and Game Place Sagas ==<br /> <br /> Revised the Megan saga because it was described as the &quot;first and longest&quot; of the sagas when the Game Place saga ran a good six years longer than Megan's did. In the interest of the edit not being completely subtractive, the &quot;longest saga&quot; superlative was rewritten in the Game Place saga where it would be accurate. I suppose there's room for debate on it being the longest, though, since there is no exact date known as to when Chris started patronizing the Place, so it can easily be undone in that case. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 01:09, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update to 2017 ==<br /> <br /> It's been roughly a year since the last image was added. I'm working on an extension to the current timeline all the way to 2017, adding in the rest of the Selling out Saga, and adding in the Financhu Crisis. I was wondering if I should add in the Pmurt Saga, as some of you have dubbed it, or if there's anything else you all could think of to include it onto the list. You all have around three days before I upload the finished image.<br /> [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 02:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Don't, as the Pmurt Saga is not yet official (and most people are opposed to it anyway; see the &quot;Just throwing it out there&quot; section above)<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 02:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seems fair. Then I'll just add the rest of the Selling out Saga, and the Financhu Crisis. [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 03:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doopie saga ==<br /> <br /> If not much else happens with the saga by, say, the end of the year, should it be kept up?<br /> {{Unsigned|Hurtful Truth Level}}<br /> *Probably not. This definitely has potential, but there's the possibility it won't go anywhere like the Jeff, Johan, and Terra Strong debacles. A couple of videos by Chris or an escalation of his discourse with Doopie would solidify this as a saga to me. Otherwise, this wouldn't really be worth mentioning on this article. --[[User:Galilean|Galilean]] ([[User talk:Galilean|talk]]) 20:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Yeah, nah, sagas can't really be named until after the fact. I'm removing the doopie section until something funny happens. [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Recently, Doopie has been becoming subject to trolling mainly from interacting with Chris. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Jessica saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should Jessica Quinn be a saga?<br /> <br /> <br /> I think it should be listed, as it's separate enough from the Doopie saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ladyfriend Managers saga ==<br /> <br /> There should be a saga entry for the trolling from 2015-2016, which included characters like [[Jeff/Francine]], [[Sam and Ellen]] and [[Johan]]. Chris let it slip that he thought he had a manager at least twice - [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/December_2015_Facebook_Posts in December 2015 on Facebook] and again in July 2016 [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Announcement_20160709|in a video]. Given the timeframe, they were probably behind that content. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Reverted an edit which removed the Lady Managers for being too minor of a saga. I disagree - they influenced Chris for a while. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vanessa Saga ==<br /> <br /> Is the Vanessa Saga really a &quot;Saga?&quot; it's just some random troll who chatted Chris a few times via AIM. It doesn't seem like a noticeable chapter in Chris' life to be a saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> ==2nd Exile Saga==<br /> <br /> I'm surprised that there is no mention of the 2nd CWC exile. I think it should be added. [[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:42, 26 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timeline ==<br /> <br /> Somebody needs to update the Timeline, that thing hasn't been updated since the Doopie Saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> == Idea Guy ==<br /> <br /> It's too soon to declare the idea guy saga over, we should probably wait say a month or so to see if Chris responds to the doxxing fiasco or if he's still under his control.<br /> <br /> <br /> Does the Idea Guy saga really need to be extended to April? Wise has nothing to do with any of Chris' current shenanigans, and [[Dick Licker; that is I]] [https://kiwifarms.net/members/shadow-resident.23381/ was apparently natural according to Shadow Resident]. Either way, Wise doesn't have any place in recent Chris content. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 15:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I do have plans to rename the saga to the &quot;Coercion&quot; saga, or something similar, since lately, a lot of what Wise did has pretty much influenced a lot of people to continue fucking up Chris' already messed up psyche. In a sense, it does seem like somewhat of a continuation of the saga in question, we'll just see what happens for the rest of the month. For now, I've decided to rollback all of the edits I've made on the saga itself. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]<br /> <br /> == Explain the 'Lady Managers' and Pmurt Sagas ==<br /> I get what in Chris's life they refer to, but I'm not sure whether they should count as sagas, and given that no one has filled in their sections on the page, I don't think I'm alone.<br /> <br /> From what I understand the 'Lady Managers Saga' seems to be defined as a combination of Chris's interactions with Jeff/Francine, Sam and Ellen, and the &quot;lady managers&quot; themselves - but none of these events seem connected, and Chris never mentioned the lady managers in relation to either of the troll encounters. Do we know exactly what influence they had on him?<br /> <br /> Calling Chris's comments on Trump a saga feels like a stretch; all they really illustrate is that Chris fairly mainstream political views, but behaves like a child when he doesn't get his way. Chris has made more political content since 2016, but the state of national politics has had no real impact on his life and he's never really acted on his anti-Trump hysteria. If he had written a bunch of left-wing diatribes into Sonichu or stayed home from Bronycon to bash the fash back in Charlottesville, I could understand, but he hasn't, so making a big deal out of it just feels like pro-Trump schadenfreude. While Chris's recent political views are fair game, they're already covered on the [[Chris and politics]] page.<br /> <br /> :Writing about the Lady Managers is tricky because they never released their info. We know they were active from December 2015 to July 2016, since Chris let slip at those times that he thought he had managers. The characters they came up have a common theme revolving around mocking or getting Chris to talk about his tomgirl lifestyle - Jeff/Francine was a parody of him and ADF, Sam and Ellen got him to talk about his frozen semen collection and fuck another blow-up doll on camera by framing it as a sex audition for who would get to impregnate them.<br /> <br /> :Chris took his hatred against Pmurt to a comical extreme. He wrecked toys as effigies on video, hanged Lego Trump and Pence, and made the death threat. I think it merits a saga because Chris was obsessed with him for a few months and the content was funny. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Merging Idea Guy and Magi-Cryzel sagas ==<br /> <br /> [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-590#post-3373402 Evidence has surfaced] which indicates that Josh Wise was responsible for both Idea Guy and the stuff that happened during Magi-Cryzel. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:18, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Megan ==<br /> <br /> I think the Megan saga ended in 2008, when she cut off contact with him. Chris may have raged about her / gotten nostalgic for her years later, but those are more of follow-ups rather than part of the core saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Null has done nothing ==<br /> <br /> Given Chris' recent insane ramblings the consensus on KF seems to be that Idea Guy is back yet again. If Null was still being Chris' bodyguard wouldn't he have stopped this? He got Chris to forward all emails and texts so Josh or that Kentucky guy should have been spotted immediately identified by Null. He's been mum on this for a while too, he hasn't doxed a ween in ages. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 23:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I never considered the &quot;Guard Dog&quot; saga to be true saga anyways. Also, we have yet to confirm his recent antics to be the acts of the Idea Guys. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Null isn't the only bodyguard. The Captain seems to be the one who's talking with Chris the most right now. And like Larry said, it's not confirmed who the new trolls are, whether they're the original Idea Guys or someone else. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Though it is an ongoing saga, so if you want to include it, I'd suggest a new entry, &quot;Magi-Chan saga&quot;, since the troll is posing as Magi-Chan. If it turns out to have been the original Idea Guys, we can merge it like how we did the Cryzel saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:18, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rewrite Dimensional Merge to focus on Teen Troon Squad ==<br /> <br /> On other wiki pages, we have entries referring to both &quot;Dimensional Merge&quot; and &quot;Teen Troon Squad,&quot; which refer to the same overall chain of events.<br /> <br /> But the Merge is more of a subsection of [[Teen Troon Squad]], since it's their idea. And in addition to the Merge, the Squad has also been releasing Idea Guy videos and their own screencaps of convos with Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 12:11, 30 December 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sagas prior to the Megan Saga ==<br /> <br /> Since the Megan saga began prior to Chris's discovery, shouldn't we add high school and college as sagas? They were both important times in Christory, and since so many of his early antics happened at [[PVCC]] (i.e., the [[sign]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], etc.), his college days should definitely be a saga. High school too, since that's where he created Sonichu and met his gal pals. Should I go ahead and add high school and college as sagas? [[User:AAE|AAE]] ([[User talk:AAE|talk]]) 22:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Based on the current definition of a saga:'an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time.', I do not think a high school saga would be appropriate. I do think that you could make a stronger case for a PVCC/Mary Lee Walsh saga since there was much more drama involved and the significant ways Mary Lee Walsh and Chris' time at college would influence his future life. Chris' college years are also the begining of the first online discussion of Chris, so I think a college saga would be important. [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 12:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Potential MKRNightvee saga ==<br /> <br /> Due to Chris more closely and more frequently associating with Meghan Ringo I think that there should be a saga dedicated to her. I think at this point MKR has been outed as a troll and Chris is convinced of her legitimacy. [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454 Thread on MKR's manipulative ways.] - [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Too soon to call right now. So far, she's only had some set-up done. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chris' twitter lockdown ==<br /> <br /> Would you consider his recent twitter actions as a potential 3rd Exile? [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline Update==<br /> <br /> Since the timeline graphic was last updated there have been sagas created that fall outside the 2005-2018 dates on the timeline graphic. Should I update the timeline graphic with all of the new sagas? [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Soft Exile naming issue ==<br /> <br /> The way this saga is centered around the exile, it could continue indefinitely if Chris keeps his new account protected. It might be good to refocus this to be about Chris freaking out over the blocking bronies instead - he just tweeted that he's done with the blocking drama, so assuming that holds true, then 22 February would be the end of this saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Looks like he's not over it quite yet https://i.imgur.com/QqJdGUl.png [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 07:26, 23 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reinstate the Merge saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris is still mentioning the merge stuff and it seems like the Teen Troon Squad were just Idea Guy wannabes. Plus the Troon squad is no longer influencing him now.<br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:49, 13 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Agreed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I too like this idea. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Classifying some sagas as eras ==<br /> <br /> From a discussion on the Tomgirl Saga talk page, we should reclassify some items on the Saga list as eras instead. An era could be defined as a set of events which could go on indefinitely, as opposed to a saga which is a story that eventually wraps up or fizzles out, and be filed under the same column as the Exile sections. Transgender (renaming Tomgirl), Financhu Crisis, Business, Dimensional Merge, and Soft Exile could classify as that. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm sure you have thought long and hard about this, but the exiles are already confusing to read after getting through the non-linear list of sagas. Further confusion comes from &quot;Inter Exile Sagas&quot; which are like Star Wars spinoff movies. I don't get it. The timeline graphic is long, and there is overall a lot to wade through. It would be nice to know all of what has happened and is happening at a glance. As for the word &quot;era&quot;, it's accurate but less exciting than &quot;saga&quot;. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Section: Pre-Christory ==<br /> <br /> I was just thinking recently, shouldn't we have a section on Pre-Christory? I'd personally define it as the period before Chris became noticed by Encyclopedia Dramatica. Basically, it would be the period where Chris was still a goofball, but wasn't nearly as infamous. In that same section, I was thinking we should add a sub-section for his high school years, as that somewhat shaped who he is today, and it was a significant era in his life. It would also include the PVCC, Megan, and Adam Sagas.[[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 21:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I don't think the Jacob Saga is over ==<br /> <br /> With Chris appointing him as the overseer of his Patreon, the Twitter dialogue about wanting to share a kiss, and Jacob planning an alleged Halloween visit suggests that their interactions are far from over. It does seem that the rift from September 28 to now just seems like a lull, and most Sagas had lulls and I know of many that were prematurely given an end date during said lulls. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 02:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Categories for Sagas. ==<br /> <br /> For the past decade, sagas were put into two groups, ones for sweethearts, others for trolls. Considering that the Love Quest is now over, I think we might need a category for Chris' finances or one for his enablers. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> : Sagas describe the content we get from Chris, and the Financhu Crisis, if looming in the background for quite a while, has certainly not been a running theme driving Chris's antics since 2017 or so. Begging is too related to unrelated, incidental expenses and satisfied by enablers too quickly for Chris to sustain output within a theme. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 23:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Enablers saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should [[Enablers]] / [[Other enablers]] have a saga entry? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Why would we need to have an enablers saga? Doesn't the Dimensional Merge Saga kind of cover that? [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 08:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree with PsychoNerd. Classic Chris had an epidemic of weens, and modern Chris has one of enablers. Neither wave of mimics deserves its own saga. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 08:46, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thetan ==<br /> <br /> Maybe [[Thetan]] could be added to the Saga list. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:30, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :I disagree. I feel that Thetan's activities were too broad and far apart to qualify. I mean, she's essentially along the lines of [[Kim Wilson]]/[[Emily]], but she doesn't have a dedicated saga. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 18:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not sure about Thetan's activities being too broad - those primarily revolved around posing as ex-classmates in 2013/14. She also did other things like impersonate the firefighter or be involved with the Catherine saga though those don't seem as significant as the classmate stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :::I see what you are going for in the sense of Thetan posing as Chris's former classmates, but I still feel that making an entire saga around her is unnecessary. Maybe something along the lines of a &quot;Manchester High Reunion Saga&quot; would be a better option. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 19:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incest Saga ==<br /> <br /> Continuing [[:Template talk:Incest|from this talk page]], on second thought maybe we should split &quot;Incest&quot; to a sub-Saga called &quot;Incest Leak Drama&quot;? Leak Drama can house the tangential drama surrounding Bella/the Suitress/The WCT. Because those three weren't involved with the Incest itself so to label them as being part of the &quot;incest&quot; saga on their pages is a bit misleading. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I feel like the &quot;Incest Saga&quot; was always primarily about both the Incest itself, and partly the drama that surrounds it. Even though Bella and the Suitress weren't directly connected to him fucking his mom, I still feel they played a very crucial role in the saga in that the former had essentially recorded Chris admitting to the act, and that the latter had leaked the parts of the call, which subsequently led to his arrest. I guess the stuff on WCT is probably better suited for the &quot;Watchmen Saga&quot;? Anything that's not directly related to Chris should not be summarized under there. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, Bella/the Suitress were what caused the Incest saga to end. I guess if we keep the incest saga intact and not split it, the part on the tangential drama could just be deleted - the paragraph about Bella's damage control (which is mentioned on her/the Suitress articles anyway). I agree with the point about The WCT because he was acting as a Watchman when he tried asking Bella for her side of the story and ended up getting manipulated into her sideshow drama which isn't really directly related to Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Third Exile==<br /> <br /> Now that Chris has been transferred out of jail, should we consider renaming &quot;Jail Saga&quot; to the &quot;Third Exile&quot;? Because it doesn't seem we'll get that much out of the hospital. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 02:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is he still technically incarcerated, just at the hospital instead of a jail? He might return to the jail later. Maybe wait until whatever happens in July to clarify his situation. Or rename it now and rename it again in July if needed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 13:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::In that case, I guess we can keep the name. If he goes back to jail, we can just add the date in which he's brought back. I just don't really see a &quot;Nuthouse Saga&quot; anytime soon. If by July he's still in the nuthouse, I say we rename it. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 14:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everfree Northwest ==<br /> <br /> At the moment, all of the stuff regarding Everfree is considered part of the Watchmen saga. I can't help but think we should move it to the Jacob saga, as a majority of the concerns regarding that event was about Jacob showing up there in disguise, and was basically the whole reason Chris asked Bella and the Suitress to accompany him. Any objections to this? [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 18:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds fine. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:36, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Nuthouse Saga Merge ==<br /> <br /> Should we merge the nuthouse saga with the jail saga? Given it was such a short period of time, I feel like it's more accurate to describe it as an event of the jail saga rather than it's own listed period of time, as well as it being covered on the [[Jail Saga]] page already. [[User:SodaSpring|SodaSpring]] ([[User talk:SodaSpring|talk]]) 05:44, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Freedom Saga ==<br /> <br /> The most recent saga in this page is entitled &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; which I named. The previous name for this saga was &quot;CWC Was Here Saga&quot; which I changed as I thought it was too long. There is currently no consensus on what the name of the saga that covers the 8 August 2023-Present should be so I choose &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; as an interregnum name. Does anyone have a better suggestion on what the name of this saga should be?<br /> :Both &quot;Freedom&quot; and &quot;Incognito&quot; are too vague and could be the name of other sagas. There are other sagas which have longer names then &quot;CWC Was Here&quot; such as the &quot;Nathaniel Greene&quot; or &quot;Leonard Bearstein&quot; sagas. The saga icon is a reference to {{w|Kilroy was here}}, which I think fits well. Another saga name could be &quot;Kilroy&quot; saga, but I think that would be too confusing. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 13:45, 27 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Offical Rename ==<br /> <br /> I just held a poll on the Offical CWCki Discord Server for what name to choose for the current saga, these were the results.<br /> <br /> CWC Was Here Saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Incognito saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Freedom Saga - 7 Votes<br /> <br /> I think we have a very obvious favorite here, I propose an offical rename to the '''Freedom Saga'''. Stop changing it back to CWC Was Here Saga [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]], most people dislike the name. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 21:21, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I was unaware most people disliked it other than you and that other editor as when I messed up the previous saga name, everyone kicked off on reddit, which I did not see this time. I apologize. I think Incognito works the best, and it still with the saga icon. I will change it now. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 22:28, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Merge incognito and third exile saga ==<br /> <br /> They really aren't too different. Incognito Saga still has loads of post-jail sightings that apparently aren't a part of that saga, and the page has an 'other sightings' part for no real reason. It should just be Third Exile saga with Chris becoming more active in the latter half of the saga. I think that would be a lot more simple. Also it should go from 27 March to 16 October, he seems to be actually returning now. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 19:04, 16 October 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Christmas Saga? ==<br /> <br /> Over the past few days Chris has been talking about Chistmas on Twitter. He's predictably acting entitled and expecting his &quot;fans&quot; go shower him with gifts, he even hijacked Toys For Tots and made it about himself. Now this isn't new behavior out of Chris but I think this time is distinct because this is the first Christmas he'll have post jail and in his new position as Praetor's captive. I fully expect Chris to get more and more worked up about Christmas as it gets closer and he'll become more and more perfectionist. Those in the [[Unholy Tetrad]] will take notice, they always do, and given his Amazon wishlist tweet I fully expect weens to send a bunch of MLP G5 stuff to him. We don't need a crystal ball to see what happens next, Christmas will fall short of his expectations and he'll bitch about it be it on Youtube or Twitter. This has the potential to give us the first post-jail tard rage video.<br /> <br /> We're in for a lulzy Christmas that I believe will be quite notable.<br /> <br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:01, 14 December 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Publicity Saga ==<br /> <br /> I suggest creating a new saga, starting from January 4 and the Cary, NC sighting, Publicty Saga.<br /> As a result of his past actions, Chris has gotten a lot of bad publicity, both because of his own actions, and a group of weens and enablers he has ecompassed over the many years, especially now, after the Second Coming. Chris is on the blacklist of many cons, was kicked out of Aniamte! Raleigh, and now seeks shelter in unlikely places, such as the Keffals livestream.<br /> Flutter also seems to have left the scene as of January 13, as Chris was spotted alone near the airport that day.<br /> So far, the current events are:<br /> <br /> - January 4 -<br /> sighting in Cary, NC, which made weens aware of the event<br /> <br /> - January 5-6 - <br /> Animate! Raleigh, Chris was not allowed on the second day due to reports to the staff<br /> <br /> - January 7 -<br /> Chris claims that he has had a good weekend, doesn't acknowledge the events at the con<br /> <br /> - January 13 - <br /> Lone sighting at a gas station (probably WaWa) in Henrico County, near the Richmond International Airport, probably returning after dropping off Flutter<br /> <br /> A textwall ranting about CosmicKeyframe blocking him, start of bigger ween interactions over the next few following days<br /> <br /> - January 14 - <br /> Announcement of the Keffals livestream with him<br /> <br /> - January 15 - <br /> New video ranting about G5, con ban, blocking on Twitter ect<br /> <br /> A bit of a Q&amp;A on Twitter with weens<br /> <br /> Keffals has a livestream in which, among other things, she states that the conversation with Chris will be pre recorded and heavily edited<br /> [[User:XelaBlueThunder|XelaBlueThunder]] ([[User talk:XelaBlueThunder|talk]]) 06:33, 16 January 2024 (EST)<br /> <br /> :I see the potential, sounds good. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 09:21, 16 January 2024 (EST)<br /> :May be a bit early to declare a saga, should wait a bit to see if the pattern holds. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:04, 16 January 2024 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New saga? ==<br /> <br /> We lacked a Flutter saga, but as you still believe she might be a real deal and not want to be on there, fair. However, with Chris's absense from the internet (Over two weeks, all the content we get is pre recorded or by other parties), I think we might have entered either a soft exile due to Flutter, or another weird part of the Revelations Saga. I do not even wanna call it Revelations Saga anymore as all of the revelations have been done already. We've got nothing new going on right now. The whole Caden thing was a dead end. What do we do in this situation?<br /> <br /> And PS: How do I make a single reference to the CWCki for multiple items? I kinda need it for the video games list article.[[User:XelaBlueThunder|XelaBlueThunder]] ([[User talk:XelaBlueThunder|talk]]) 14:32, 8 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Should probably just wait until things become clearer. No need to rush with naming sagas. Currently seems to be a slow time for Christory. For the references you can do &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref name=streampoll&gt;[[February 2024 social media posts#Stream Poll|From screenshots of his games shared by him on Twitter.]]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; for the first item, then &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref name=streampoll&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; for the rest. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:53, 8 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :We already had a soft exile in 2019. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 21:44, 10 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Is the Revelations Saga over? ==<br /> <br /> While it's probably too early to name a new saga, I feel that we're at a point now when we've learned the bulk of what we're going to about the Jail Saga. Because of that, I feel like it's a misnomer to say we're still in the Revelations Saga at this point. The GFM meetup and interview probably marked the end of whatever else we're going to learn outside of the inevitable years-long dripfeed. Should we officially declare the saga to have ended on March 18? [[User:Cottonmather|Cottonmather]] ([[User talk:Cottonmather|talk]]) 06:39, 27 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> :Praetor still hasn't released the Goddess Logs so there is still a lot more info about jail on the way. [[User:BaboonRancher23|BaboonRancher23]] ([[User talk:BaboonRancher23|talk]]) 08:54, 27 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == The new saga (Third time's a charm) ==<br /> <br /> Considering that we saw a large shift in Chris's behavious and online activity that became even more commercialised than before, with the new website, Minecraft lets plays and the Play Button in his possession, I suggest that we do finally make a new saga. Revelations is no longer, well, relevant, due to the fact that we now learn nothing new about Chris other than his long Twitter rants that are likely AI generated with some corrections from him. The Commercialised Saga/CWCLight Saga/Extortion Saga are all possible names. I feel like all that we're gonna get as of now is more Praetor produced content. [[User:XelaBlueThunder|XelaBlueThunder]] ([[User talk:XelaBlueThunder|talk]]) 13:23, 24 September 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I dunno, this sounds like an extension of the existing Business and Praetor sagas. What extortion? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:35, 24 September 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that the Revelations Saga is almost definitely over with the flurry of recent events, but it's still too soon imo to determine what will contextualize the next saga. The recent trip puts the potential of a Flutter Saga back into the spotlight, but it's still too soon to declare anything. [[User:Cottonmather|Cottonmather]] ([[User talk:Cottonmather|talk]]) 00:34, 4 October 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Is the Financhu Crisis over? And Praetor as a Meta-Saga ==<br /> <br /> Ever since he's left jail, I think it's become clear that Chris is no longer financially struggling like he used to. Ignoring his multiple overseas vacations and the fact that he now lives on his own, Chris has had a steady passive income from his and Praetor's merchandise ever since he first went to jail. He's rarely begged for money since the first few months of the Jail Saga, and even when he's done so, it's been during streams and done in a largely normalized way. The panic and guilt-tripping present in the e-begging between 2016 and 2021 is a thing of the past. While much can be said about Caden's situation, and speculated about Barb's, I think it's become clear that Chris is essentially financially stable as of his arrest.<br /> <br /> On another note, I think it's worth discussing whether it's time to elevate Praetor to a Meta-Saga. Chris has been involved with Caden and Praetor for nearly half a decade at this point, and especially since he's left jail, a majority of his presence online has been dictated by their manipulation, their financing, their contributions to Chris's content, or Chris's attempts to draw attention to their merchandise. We're at a point where a vast majority of Chris's videos from the past two years are tagged with the Praetor saga, and it's almost become redundant. It's clear that without their constant presence, Chris's output would be very different right now. It would be setting a new precedent since no individual troll or group has ever been elevated to Meta-Saga status before, but I think Praetor has been the first to posit an argument for it. [[User:Cottonmather|Cottonmather]] ([[User talk:Cottonmather|talk]]) 00:27, 4 October 2024 (EDT)<br /> :I agree with both suggestions. When would you say that the Financhu Crisis ended? [[User:BaboonRancher23|BaboonRancher23]] ([[User talk:BaboonRancher23|talk]]) 09:05, 4 October 2024 (EDT)<br /> :Agree that Financhu Crisis is over for now. Maybe we should count [[debt]] cases for it, Chris had a garnishment case filed in March 2023 and it was tossed for &quot;no funds&quot; in April. If Praetor is put as a meta saga it'd be concurrent with the Business meta-saga... is there enough distinction between Praetor and Business? It seems to me that Praetor could also be added as a paragraph in Business. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:22, 4 October 2024 (EDT)<br /> ::Agreed in regard to the debt; I'd say the Financhu Crisis ended on 26 April 2023 based on that info.<br /> <br /> ::I think the main difference between the Praetor and Business sagas is that the Business Saga intrinsically revolved around Chris's self-sustained business ventures, while the Praetor saga essentially sees Chris working &lt;i&gt;under someone else&lt;/i&gt; for the first time in his life, aside from his brief stint at Wendy's. In effect, this means that the Business Saga was characterized by Chris's inability to run a business on his own. The entertainment came from the unique ways he failed to do so when he was given full creative and financial control. Meanwhile, the Praetor Saga is characterized by Chris's new role as an &lt;i&gt;employee&lt;/i&gt; in &lt;i&gt;someone else's business,&lt;/i&gt;, and seems to essentially revolve around him trying to keep his 'bosses' satisfied. The entertainment (however little there is) comes from the times Chris has slipped up and fucked them or himself over despite their clear attempts to idiot-proof him. They're similar on a surface level, but in practice, they've played out very distinctly from each other. [[User:Cottonmather|Cottonmather]] ([[User talk:Cottonmather|talk]]) 21:21, 4 October 2024 (EDT)<br /> :::That distinction makes sense. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:43, 5 October 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Is this (finally) a saga? ==<br /> <br /> I feel like I'm posting here a lot, but CWC's recent flood of support toward [[Kamala Harris]] on Twitter, and subsequent anger following [[Pmurt]]'s reelection, seems like the closest thing we've gotten to a cohesive saga since the Third Exile. He's done multiple videos/streams mentioning or focusing on it, and he's been posting and reposting about it at basically every opportunity. He literally made several custom yard signs and posted them illegally outside 14BC. In retrospect, now that it's winding down, it really does feel like it qualifies from my perspective. Should this be counted as a new saga, and if so, should it be codified as the Kamala Saga or the Second Pmurt Saga? [[User:Cottonmather|Cottonmather]] ([[User talk:Cottonmather|talk]]) 20:26, 6 November 2024 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Fashion Square Mall Saga ==<br /> I don't know about you, but since the closing of this place, it dawned on me that it feels a little bit odd that we don't have a saga for FSM, especially since a number of notable events happened there before his permaban. For one, it was one of the first, and one of his most active [[attraction locations]], and it's also one of the first places where several of his practices of luring sweethearts had occurred, such as the Red String of Fate, as well as where he met a few gal-pals (Anna, Hannah, and Emily specifically). It was also a prominent location in his comics, where he'd try and exaggerate his experiences there, and also arguably where he began his [[Jerkops|distrust with authority figures]], since he got in trouble with the staff there many times. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 18:27, 22 February 2025 (EST)<br /> :It's significant as a location, but I don't think it's enough for a Saga entry. PVCC shaped him more in comparison. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:11, 23 February 2025 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Concerns about the Praetor Saga ==<br /> For a while, I've been meaning to split the Praetor Saga apart, as I feel it's getting a bit bloated, and for the fact that Chris's involvement with Praetor pre-jail is fundamentally different from his involvement with it now. Pre-Jail, you had the Watchmen breathing down their necks, especially with the Taser stuff, and Post-Jail, there's a completely different dynamic between them and Chris, where they now seem to act as replacement guardians for him. <br /> <br /> For now, what I plan on doing is separating all of the stuff having to do with Chris's [[Gate Crystal]] and the [[Taser]] from the rest of the saga, as I feel that's only tangentially related to Praetor itself, and had its own twists and turns in Christory, and making it its own saga, which I dub &quot;'''The Gate Crystal Saga'''&quot;. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 00:11, 7 March 2025 (EST)<br /> :I agree it's a bit bloated. Would the taser stuff be kind of short for a saga? What would be the start-end dates? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 13:02, 7 March 2025 (EST)<br /> :I don't think the start date should be May 2022. It cancels out too much of Praetor's history with Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:31, 15 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::Maybe you're right, what do you suppose it should be then? [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 07:44, 15 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::I think it should be September 2020 since that's when they started meeting with Chris. They've had a consistent history since. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:50, 16 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::If we do that, do you propose we move it back to the &quot;Rise N Fall&quot; era, as well? [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 11:29, 16 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::::We could do that, since it originated from that timeframe. By the way, what do you think of the proposal [[Talk:Saga#Is the Financhu Crisis over? And Praetor as a Meta-Saga|here]] to move Praetor to Meta-saga? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:11, 17 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::::Honestly, that might actually be a better idea. Chris's time with Praetor is essentially the first real job he's had, and it has spanned over so many sagas by now (Crystalgate, Lainchu, Warhol, Jail, Third Exile, and Revelations). To declare Praetor as an ordinary saga would probably only complicate the timeline further, since everything that happened with regards to Praetor merely happened in other sagas. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 12:49, 17 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==What constitutes a Saga?==<br /> <br /> Someone DM'd me asking about the Saga page. These are his questions:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgray|I have actually been wondering. What makes something a saga? What is the criteria for something to be a saga? From what I understand for something to be a saga it'd have to revolve around a potential sweetheart or something/someone that is antagonistic to Chris or it is an exile. So why is Copitz a saga? Also what makes other events such as KwaiiSandbag's trolling for example not a saga?}}<br /> <br /> My reply was, &quot;My opinion is if there's something which generates a lot of content, it's marked as a saga, though what is a lot depends on editor.&quot;<br /> <br /> Anyone have any thoughts on this? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:29, 16 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I personally view a &quot;saga&quot; as being that, or leading to a significant change of some sort in Christory. Copitz would count because that was one of the things that made Chris more known in Internet circles. KawaiiSandbags just sort of happened, but Chris didn't really create much content, nor did it lead to any significant events. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 11:17, 16 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::Well Chris stopped pretending to be Sonichu, which is very significant to Chris. I think the definition could be &quot;a period of events that happened revolving around a potential sweetheart, someone/something that affects Chris which leads to significant event(s) or change, or it is an exile.&quot; This definition includes every saga so far and excludes the stuff with Helena Fiorenza for example. However, this definition also includes KwaiiSandbag and Flutter as sagas. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 15:34, 27 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::: Honestly, I think I somewhat like this definition. Maybe we could also define these sagas off the the meta-sagas, which I think could satisfy your definition too (the stuff with potential sweethearts going under the Love Quest, for example). On an unrelated note too...yeah enough stuff has happened with regards to Flutter to make a saga about her, IMO, regardless of if we apply your definition or not. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 15:49, 27 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::I was thinking, if the key thing Kwaii did was bait Chris into ending the Sonichu RP, then why not consider him a part of the Roleplaying Saga instead of making a new saga for him? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:25, 8 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::Probably the same reason Ivy isn't just a part of the Love Quest saga. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 18:05, 8 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::: Either way, Chris was roleplaying as Sonichu for quite a while, so ANYONE convincing him to quit it is quite noteworthy, I would say. Plus, there were also the implications for what this meant regarding the bigger picture. Even with people like the Watchmen influencing the CWCSphere, people could still influence Chris in such a huge way. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 18:15, 8 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Praetor as a Meta-Saga name ==<br /> I think the employment saga is a bad name. The most accurate title would probably be Caden saga as he is the main person behind the Etsy shop/Praetor. Calling it the Praetor saga would also be acceptable but IDK if the group is calling themselves Praetor post-jail.<br /> :Yeah, let's just keep it as &quot;Praetor&quot;. I only changed it to &quot;employment&quot; on the basis of it being a meta-saga. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 23:24, 17 March 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Watchmen as a Meta-saga ==<br /> So, as some of you may know, I've expressed concerns about the Watchmen saga being &quot;bloated&quot;, and proposed a few times to split it into smaller sagas. The sagas that did come out of that did turn out to flow somewhat evenly into the timeline, but I do realize I might have approached that issue all wrong. <br /> <br /> From all I've worked on regarding the Lainchu and &quot;Crystalgate&quot; sagas, I think I've come to the conclusion that the problem isn't so much the saga is &quot;bloated&quot; as much as it is that there's a lot of stuff that went on with that group, with many instances of in-fighting, leadership changes, and the numerous people they went after, all of which caused a whole flurry of events, and had a notable effect on both the CWCsphere and Chris's online presence. Not to mention, we already have a template for [[:Template:WatchmenLeaks|all of the Watchmen leaks]], so it seems somewhat pointless to make a [[:Template:WatchmenSaga|separate one]] for the saga as it's defined here. Since Praetor became a Meta-saga for similar reasons, I propose we do the same with the Watchmen, since they undeniably made a huge impact on the story, but probably shouldn't be treated as just a regular saga. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 17:23, 10 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :I just think it is a long running normal saga. I think Praetor was considered a meta-saga due to Chris's employment. Even then I'm unsure if Praetor should even be considered a meta-saga or not. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 18:09, 10 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Why Not Just Simply Name the Everfree/Quickening Section &quot;Fiona Saga&quot;? ==<br /> <br /> Most of the sagas are named after people anyways. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 20:55, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :Because that saga isn't just about Fiona. She was only a part of what that saga's about, the things that led up to the Incest Saga. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 20:56, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::I'm looking at all the links on the saga and they all pertain to Fiona in some way. Even the Watchmen discourse. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 20:57, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::Not really...you have the Funding (which is there because it's what led to Null calling the cops on Chris), which was mostly Null, and the Knights of CWC was stuff having to do with Chris leaving The Place sever and the planned protection against Jacob Sockness, among other things, which was a pretty big deal when it happened. The saga as a whole is closer to say &quot;the Bella/Fiona&quot; saga. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 21:00, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::::I don't think either Fiona or Bella are notable enough to have Sagas named for them. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:08, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::::I don't either, I was just trying to give a better idea on what that saga's scope was. The saga's not about either just Bella or Fiona, as they were both just players to something bigger. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 21:28, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::::I was in the middle of suggesting either &quot;Bella and Fiona Saga&quot; or &quot;Love Triangle Saga&quot; based on what Bella said when you replied. I guess &quot;Love Triangle Saga&quot; it is? [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 21:12, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::::I think &quot;Quickening&quot; sounds a bit too corny. Go back to &quot;Everfree Saga&quot; I don't think anyone had a problem with that or go with &quot;Love Triangle Saga&quot; I'm fine with that too. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 21:50, 11 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Revelations Saga ==<br /> <br /> I'm sure this &quot;saga&quot;, which just groups together all of the stuff since Chris's return to the Internet, had a purpose at some point, especially when it seemed that we weren't going to get anything new from Chris any time soon, but at this point...I just don't seen any reason to still have this. At this rate, things are essentially back to normal as far as Chris is concerned, he's back to posting on social media and making livestreams regularly again, not too different from the &quot;Rise N Fall era&quot;, so to me, just grouping all of that together into a &quot;saga&quot;, which just contains loosely related events, doesn't seem that practical. <br /> <br /> Another user suggested we maybe just make all of the stuff surrounding Flutter a saga, too, which I do think is reasonable since Chris has produced enough content and enough prominent events around her had occurred to warrant it, so maybe the best course of action is to just put that there instead.[[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 13:01, 12 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> : I think making a combined Flutter/Finland saga would be good. [[User:BaboonRancher23|BaboonRancher23]] ([[User talk:BaboonRancher23|talk]]) 13:46, 12 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :: I think we might as well combine that with Flutter, TBH, since most of the trips we've seen thus far involved Flutter too. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 13:47, 12 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> :::Wouldn't it make more sense to put the start date to the Flutter Saga at Early 2022 when she first contacted Chris? (some time between April and July) [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 14:43, 13 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> ::::It's too early for a Flutter saga, there's very little info. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:45, 14 April 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Is there a new Transformers Related Saga? ==<br /> <br /> I know it is boring, but there is so much content on it lately. [[User:Master|Master]] ([[User talk:Master|talk]]) 23:11, 5 August 2025 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :It's best to be lumped into whatever saga praetor is in. Xela actually proved on the farms that these are pre-recorded to serve as filler content while Chris is in Finland, meaning Caden is curating this content. Not distinct enough to be a saga. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 23:13, 5 August 2025 (EDT)</div>

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<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Needs Updating|[[The Place chats - Jacob Sockness#Chris asks for Jacob to be kicked]]|[[The Place chats - Chris Unblocks Sockness]]|Information regarding Discord Server}}<br /> {{Honest}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|The Sacred Shoes have samples of cat &amp; doggy DNA. Looking for the Treasures of Heaven, a single hair from Christine's head to put into an amulet of serious power to manifest one's dreams. This is a divine experience.|Sockness after buying Chris's shoes&lt;ref&gt;&lt;s&gt;https://twitter.com/darkseed2012/status/1107477177149251585&lt;/s&gt; Deleted&lt;/ref&gt;.}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|Stop with the sex obsessions already! Seriously, Please: chill out.|Chris, 1 July 2020, criticizing Sockness for his creepy behavior after over a year of it.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1278236917952327682&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> {{Infobox Person<br /> | name = Jacob Sockness<br /> | image = SocknessCWC.jpg|size=250px<br /> |aliases = Michiro Hutaki&lt;br&gt;Agian Siin&lt;br&gt;Darkseed2012&lt;br&gt;RamleIronHeart&lt;br&gt;Jacob JS&lt;br&gt;drunkendragon415&lt;br&gt;luvshak214&lt;br&gt;Ashva Gohda&lt;br&gt;Gakuto Numata&lt;br&gt;White Knight Blue Heart&lt;br&gt;Jake Hammer&lt;br&gt;&lt;abbr title=&quot;'Love Christine' in Hindi&quot;&gt;क्रिस्टीन को प्यार करो&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;br&gt;Centralized Imperial Government of Kidasuna&lt;br&gt;[[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU God]] of the Super Nintendo&lt;br&gt;Right Eye of GOD&lt;br&gt;Fanta-Fun&lt;br&gt;GOD the All Father <br /> |gender = &lt;abbr title=&quot;Natural. Claims to be neuter.&quot;&gt;Male&lt;/abbr&gt;<br /> |nation = [[United States|American]]<br /> |race = White<br /> |religion = Neo-Pagan&lt;br&gt;Satanism (former)<br /> |occupation = Amateur Occultist&lt;br&gt;Conspiracy Theorist&lt;br&gt;Stalker&lt;br&gt;Unemployed<br /> |saga = {{saga|jacob|cn}}, {{saga|shipfic|cn}}, {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|jail|cn}}, '''[[Template:PostJailSaga|&lt;span style = &quot;color:#64a5af&quot;&gt;Third Exile&lt;/span&gt;]]'''<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Jacob Sockness''' is an intellectually-disabled amateur sorcerer and conspiracy theorist from San Francisco, California who attempted to [[manipulate]] Chris into a relationship, notably by exploiting his fantasy world and tricking Chris into believing his [[imaginary friend]] approved of the idea.&lt;ref&gt;[[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan]]&lt;/ref&gt; Prior to Sockness's interactions, the [[Idea Guys]] had [[brainwashed]] Chris into identifying as [[bisexual]], which enabled Sockness to try to become Chris's first (real-world) male sweetheart, which ultimately failed.<br /> <br /> Sockness emerged in mid-[[2018]] and was most active between [[July 2019|July]] and [[November 2019|November]] of [[2019]]. He has the dubious honor of embodying every single aspect of the [[Unholy Quintet]] over the course of his years of interacting with Chris. He has similarities with Chris, such as being [[autism|autistic]],&lt;ref&gt;[https://old.reddit.com/r/TheChurchofCWC/comments/bl78bl/magichan_2_need_to_talk_now/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=ios_app Sockness admits he is autistic],&lt;/ref&gt; [[tomgirl|non-gender-conforming]],&lt;ref name=return /&gt; receiving a [[monthly tugboat]], [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|believing to be a god]],&lt;ref&gt;[http://archive.is/eg2Gq Sockness claimed to be the Hindu god Ganesh]&lt;/ref&gt; thinks he has [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|magic powers]] and has built an elaborate fantasy universe, into which he has appropriated ''Sonichu'' characters, with over a dozen installments that he believes [[Chris and reality|really exist]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=1404026 Sockness's 19-volume series for sale on Lulu]&lt;/ref&gt; While he was at first seemingly just another [[troll]], notable for his [[Chris and sex|erotic]] disposition towards Chris, Sockness became openly malicious after establishing direct contact with Chris.<br /> <br /> In mid-[[2019]], Sockness gained influence over Chris by offering to work together financially following Chris's [[June 2019]] ban from [[eBay]], he then achieved considerable influence over Chris's [[CWCville|fantasy world]], as seen in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. Most of his courting and [[enablers|enabling]] has been through Twitter, though he has also promoted himself through [[Reddit]], [[YouTube]] and even [[Kiwi Farms]]. For months, Sockness tried to manipulate Chris into meeting in person, to onlookers' alarm. Yet when Sockness finally set out to travel cross-country to [[14 Branchland Court]] in late September 2019, Chris rebuffed these efforts with the help of the [[Watchmen]]. Rehabilitation attempts over the following two months, at one point going even so far as manipulating Chris into mutual [[sweetheart|flirting]], could not ultimately repair their [[Heart Level|broken relationship]], and by the end of [[November 2019]] they rejected each other again. Sockness was nevertheless persistent, and by [[March 2020]] briefly had a toe in Chris's door once again. Chris and Jacob's relationship came to a permanent end in [[August 2020]] after Jacob claimed that [[Mia Hamm]] had a child with Chris.&lt;ref&gt;[[July 2020 social media posts#Jacob sex obsessions]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Discovery and motivations==<br /> [[Image:Jacob Sockness CWC poster.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Sockness posing next to a Sonichu Through the Years poster sold by Chris.]]<br /> Jacob was discovered by chance by [[Kiwi Farms]] user [https://kiwifarms.net/members/neural.18444/ neural] while observing the [[weens|many]] [[A-log|users]] surrounding Chris's Twitter posts. Upon further investigation, it was revealed that he also had a Kiwi Farms account under the name [https://kiwifarms.net/members/jacob-js.26961/ Jacob JS]. It was in his profile page where he accidentally doxed himself by linking to his [[Facebook]] and Tumblr that revealed his personal information. As he exposed himself on the Farms, Sockness, like [[Michael Hirtes]], is considered to be a ''halal'' lolcow. <br /> <br /> Like many of Chris's orbiters, Sockness is a furry and lives in [[wikipedia:Section_8_%28housing%29|subsidised housing]] with a [[tugboat]]. He has a very low view of [[niggos|blacks]], describing them as 'beastly' and 'hyper sexual', believing that 'their race can only rape, because that is [their] way of reproduction in a natural setting.'&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jacob-sockness-michiro-hutaki-agian-siin-jacob-js-darkseed2012-ramleironheart.48287/ Sockness's lolcow thread on Kiwi Farms]&lt;/ref&gt; Unlike the [[Idea Guys]] who inserted such themes into Chris's mind for their own amusement, Jacob seems to be genuine. Sockness has been demonstrated to control several sockpuppets that he has used to white-knight and converse with himself; like Chris's [[Disguises|similar past attempts]] to cover himself.<br /> <br /> Christorians could not discern the true motivations behind Sockness's behaviour. For a while, Jacob appeared to be the first [[TRUE and HONEST]] believer in [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]] after Chris, setting him apart from the [[Jessica Quinn|various]] [[CWCProtectSquad|trolls]] professing to protect Chris and the [[Sarah and Steve|many]] [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|previous]] [[Multidimensional White Knights|imitators]] of the [[Idea Guys]] pretending to belong to Chris's abortive [[Chris and his Ego|cult]]. Over the months, evidence gradually came to light that indicated that Jacob's feelings were not in earnest. In [[November 2018]], Sockness admitted that he did not seriously believe in the [[Dimensional Merge]].&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhV7At8N4x4&amp;t=274s Interview with Sockness on YouTube, conducted 18 November 2018, released 29 October 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; When Chris allowed Jacob access to his Twitter account on 11 July 2019, he boasted about it on [[Reddit]], even claiming that his sexual attraction to Chris was a façade.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:KinkAct.png|Sockness states his erotic desires for Chris are not genuine, 11 July 2019]]&lt;/ref&gt; On 21 September 2019, when a [[white knight|concerned onlooker]] tried to warn Chris that Sockness was tantamount to an autistic [[Idea Guy]], Sockness embraced the charges of manipulation, justifying his actions as protecting Chris from trolls.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-15-sockness-enabling-chriss-magi-chan-role-playing-luring-him-for-a-visit.59770/post-5361506 Dialogue between Sockness and onlooker]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Early interactions with Chris==<br /> {{quote|The Sacred Shoes have samples of cat &amp; doggy DNA. Looking for the Treasures of Heaven, a single hair from Christine's head to put into an amulet of serious power to manifest one's dreams. This is a divine experience.|Sockness&lt;ref&gt;&lt;s&gt;https://twitter.com/darkseed2012/status/1107477177149251585&lt;/s&gt; Deleted&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> Sockness has spent hundreds buying items from Chris's [[eBay]], notably buying his old shoes for worshipping purposes. Chris blocked him on [[Twitter]] on 31 January 2019. By 22 [[May 2019]], Jacob's YouTube channel was terminated, and his Twitter account disappeared. <br /> <br /> [[File:JacobBlockedLOL.png|thumb|left|200px|Jacob's reaction to Chris blocking his [[sockpuppet]].]]<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/Fanvideo<br /> | name = I have the Sonishoes<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|AYIzRYW3uDc}}<br /> | Stardate = 16 March 2019<br /> | Maker = Jacob S<br /> | Subject = <br /> | Video Type = <br /> | Other Info = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Followed.png|200px|right]]<br /> [[Image:KinkAct.png|200px|right]]<br /> Still, this was not the end of Sockness's involvement with Chris; Jacob then created a new Twitter account named &quot;Chris Kink.&quot; On 11 July 2019, while Chris was trying to raise funds for a hotel room at the 2019 [[BronyCon]], a troll SonichuMerch told Chris that Sockness might be interested in buying his bath water. Chris saw dollar signs and followed Sockness.<br /> <br /> {{quote|The Sonichu merch guy told Chris I was interested in the buying some bath water. The guy doesn't know I have no money to buy it due to issues with Social Security in May. Even if I had the money, Chris has to follow some exact rules to creating what I need from him. I need him to make and bless some holy water with his juices in it.|Sockness explains why Chris started following him.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cbmq7m/chris_is_following_sockness_on_twitter/ethqxsd/&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> After establishing direct communication with Chris, Sockness tweeted that he would open a vendor account on [[eBay]] for Chris, acting as warehouse, clearing-house and middleman. Chris responded with gratitude.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-14-chris-will-circumvent-his-ebay-seller-ban-by-teaming-up-with-sockness.58419/ Twitter 7/14 - Chris will circumvent his Ebay seller ban by teaming up with Sockness]&lt;/ref&gt; The next day, Chris re-tweeted a GoFundMe campaign by Sockness to raise $300, nominally as a ''shipping fund''.&lt;ref&gt;http://archive.fo/nkTcS&lt;/ref&gt; As of [[September 2019]], Sockness has failed to restore Chris's access to eBay, which would have been prohibited at any rate. Sockness has continued to set up GoFundMe pages for [[Chris and money|Chris's incidental expenses]], such as when [[Son-chu|his car]] broke down and needed a thousand dollars worth of repairs.&lt;ref&gt;[[September 2019 social media posts#Car is repaired but Chris needs cash (again)]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[File:JacobWhiteKnight.jpg|thumb|200px|left|White Knight Blue Heart, Sockness's primary Twitter identity while planning to travel to Chris's home.]]<br /> [[File:Sonichu14-2019draft-p15.jpg|thumb|200px|Jakoba in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]].]]<br /> <br /> Once Sockness had his foot in the door, he began talking about his alternate dimension fantasies, further enabling Chris.<br /> <br /> {{quote|Firstly, and mainly, I am not under Anyone’s Control. And second, I still support the Rokat and all the good peoples in Andromeda. I need to meditate further for more sound responses and thoughts. For now I will simply state that your research is valuable, indeed. Going silent.|Chris, addressing Sockness. He believes he is not under anyone's control while parroting Sockness's lore.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1154376923520352256&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> Chris featured Jakoba, an OC created by Sockness, in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. As Sockness put it: &quot;She drew Jakoba, from one of mine when her CPU pals wanted to see the Rokat&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cgybzh/chris_drawing_with_his_awkward_pen_grip_while/euxv3zz/&lt;/ref&gt; For most of summer 2019, the two interacted relatively little, though other [[weens]] tried to push them closer together.&lt;ref&gt;[[Sarah and Steve]]&lt;/ref&gt; In [[August 2019]], Chris, through his [[Magi-Chan]] sockpuppet on Twitter, [[naïve]]ly dismissed Sockness's violent inclinations and approved of Sockness coming to visit.&lt;ref&gt;[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan responds to Sockness' violent tendencies]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Subsequent interactions and Virginia trip ==<br /> [[File:Socknesstraininfo.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Sockness's ominously one-way train ticket, with dates blacked out. Astute observers have calculated that Sockness should have arrived on Saturday evening (28 September 2019) in [[Charlottesville]] had he continued.]]<br /> <br /> On 7 [[September 2019]], Sockness released a [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|fabricated conversation]] between himself and [[Magi-Chan]] from [[May 2019]], in which he declared that he and Chris would need meet in person and marry for the [[Dimensional Merge]] to proceed. Though Chris affirmed thereafter that the counterfeit dialogue was [[TRUE and HONEST|trustworthy]] and [[Financhu Crisis|begged]] for the funding to travel to California,&lt;ref&gt;https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sockness-manipulated-chris-with-threat-to-stop-the-merge-rping-as-magi-chan.60642/post-5298762&lt;/ref&gt; he changed tactics within a few days, stating on Twitter that Chris, [[Chris and reality|in Magi-Chan's body]], had arrived on the West Coast from &quot;behind the [[dimension]]al curtain&quot;,&lt;ref&gt;[[September 2019 social media posts#Longing for the Teen Troon Saga]]&lt;/ref&gt; while Chris's body was safely in [[Virginia]]. Nevertheless, Chris remained interested in Sockness coming to visit him at [[14 Branchland Court|home]].&lt;ref&gt;[[September 2019 social media posts#The fabled return of the real Chris]]&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> As autumn 2019 began, months of casual online role-playing came to a head: on 24 September, Sockness reported that he had bought train tickets to make the transcontinental trip to Chris.&lt;ref&gt;[https://archive.fo/vS8ac Sockness announces he has secured transport on Reddit]&lt;/ref&gt; He made clear that his intent was both [[Chris and sex|sexual]] and [[Chris and violence|violent]] on Reddit, comparing his plans for Chris's rear to Germany's devastation by Allied bombings during [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|the War]],&lt;ref&gt;[http://archive.is/kGTRi Sockness: 'I'll just destroy her ass like carpeting bombing Germany in WWII. It'll be in flaming ruin.']&lt;/ref&gt; despite being physically incapable of such a feat.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5643632 Sockness reveals incapacity to rape Chris, 27 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[File:Discord - 25Sept19 - Welfare Check claim.png|thumb|150px|Claim from an anonymous Discord user that a [[welfare check]] was requested.]]<br /> On 25 September, a concerned observer called police for a [[welfare check]] on Chris, and claimed that a deputy promised to contact Chris that day and follow up on 28 September.&lt;ref&gt;https://cwcki.club/index.php?threads/sockness-foiled-virginia-trip-what-really-happened.2424/&lt;/ref&gt; Whether the alleged welfare check had an effect on Chris is uncertain.<br /> <br /> On 25 September, Chris posted a statement on Twitter along with a short audio clip, [[ChrisReleasesAStatementRegardingJacobSockness]], indicating his desire for Sockness to return home after Sockness had left for Virginia, and saying that somebody in Chicago would provide him with a return ticket.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/post-5384612 Chris declares Sockness's destiny is to go home, asks his followers to stop him in Chicago]&lt;/ref&gt; It seemed that Chris had a moment of clarity long enough to realize the magnitude of what was going to happen. He elaborated on his decisions a day later, including a statement from one of Jacob's imaginary gods, Michiro. In his statement, Chris cited [[Chris and health|his health]] as unconducive to having guests, and that Jacob had gone down the path of evil. Chris also said that he foresaw that he and Jacob would end up in a similar situation to how Chris and [[Cole Smithey]] are. On 26 September, Sockness admitted defeat, tweeting that his &quot;involvement with the Dimensional Merge has ended in failure&quot; and that he would delete his Twitter account upon returning home.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/page-6#post-5384295 Sockness quits, tweet screenshot mirrored on Kiwi Farms]&lt;/ref&gt; Chris confirmed that Sockness had turned back the next day.&lt;ref&gt;[[September 2019 social media posts#Sockness is going home]]&lt;/ref&gt; In a [[honor roll|poorly thought out]] attempt to save face, Sockness later claimed that the train ticket was his own forgery, and that the entire Virginia trip a sham.&lt;ref name=hoax&gt;[[:File:SockHoax.jpg|Tweet by Sockness, 16 October 2019]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Failed romance ==<br /> [[File:BarneySatanism.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|The rift between Jacob and Chris continued to widen on 28 September 2019, when Chris refused to join in Sockness's worship of [[Wikipedia:Barney &amp; Friends|Barney]], whom Jacob believes to be Satan.]]<br /> [[File:Sockness managing Chris's Patreon.jpeg|thumb|200px|Sockness handling Chris's Patreon funding, as he did with eBay earlier in the year.]]<br /> Despite spending over $1,500 through the course of his failed bid for Chris's attention, Sockness remained determined to win his prize in the end, and managed to slither back into Chris's inner circle of orbiters despite his dangerous behaviour. He apologised for his [[Chris and anger|emotional outbursts]] to reconcile with Chris, and had indicated that he wishes to try visiting Chris again at some indeterminate future time, making sure to bring a mutual friend along with him.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:SocknessPlans.png]]&lt;/ref&gt; When Chris declared on 28 September his wish to attend BABSCon, a ''My Little Pony'' convention then scheduled for April 2020 just outside of San Francisco, Sockness consoled himself that he would see Chris in person after all.&lt;ref&gt;[http://archive.is/j8eth Sockness's Twitter, archived 30 September 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; However, they did not converse again for over two weeks after this.<br /> [[File:TruePals.png|thumb|200px|left|Sarah and Steve declare themselves outright to favour Sockness with this original artwork.]]<br /> Halfway through October 2019, Sockness entered the picture again. On 12 October, Chris whined on Twitter about complaints from customers regarding the [[Patreon]] books they had not received.&lt;ref&gt;[[October 2019 social media posts#Chris orders the Shipfic cards, snaps at customers wanting books]]&lt;/ref&gt; Sockness, sensing an opportunity to regain access to Chris, discussed the matter with him, and then announced with his approval&lt;ref&gt;[[October 2019 social media posts#Good News to Patient Patrons (Patreon post)]]&lt;/ref&gt; that he would be taking over management of the Patreon's financing, ostensibly to help, in a similar move to his managing Chris's eBay several months earlier. Emboldened, Sockness proclaimed on 16 October that he would fly to Virginia sometime about [[Halloween]].&lt;ref name=hoax /&gt; He promptly resumed hitting on Chris over Twitter, with Chris playing into it: on 19 October, Sockness, commenting on a video clip of cosplayers kissing, said: &quot;How about it Love @CPU_CWCSonichu?&quot;, to which Chris answered, &quot;I’m not gonna cosplay as Deadpool or a Zombie, but we can kiss at the future time.&quot;&lt;ref name=cankiss&gt;https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505&lt;/ref&gt; Halloween 2019 came and went with no indication that Sockness had flown to Virginia as he said he would. <br /> <br /> Shifting tactics, Sockness determined to cordon Chris off from other social interactions, establishing himself as the only one Chris could trust. On 3 [[November 2019]] he managed to sour Chris's opinion of [[Null]].&lt;ref&gt;[[Null#Chris turns against Null]]&lt;/ref&gt; Later that week, Sockness allied with a newly returned [[Sarah and Steve]] in byzantine Twitter dialogues ''defending'' Chris against other enablers who sought to gain influence over him.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5562273 Peak autism, 8 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; Among his many attempts to suppress rivals, Sockness harassed MKRNightVee in direct messages.&lt;ref name=screech&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5646079 Merge table talk, 27 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; Further seeking to cut Chris off from other contacts, including those who [[Guard Dogs|genuinely mean him well]], Sockness created a list of various [[Kiwi Farms]] and [[Twitter]] users he deemed untrustworthy for criticising his bid for control.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5576554 Sockness's Black Book, 11 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Jacob as a danger to Chris ==<br /> Jacob is clearly unstable, with psychopathic tendencies. In his own mythos he is the prophet of the god of war and death, Jakoba, it is telling that Jacob named a death god after himself. His books contain many references to himself as an evil entity, most bluntly put in Celestial Studies where he says &quot;Our job is to consume human flesh.&quot; In addition to this a lot of his books contain rituals, most have graphic descriptions, all of which are made to kill people in cruel and unusual ways. In a 2018 interview he says that he uses these rituals to kill homeless people when he's bored. Also in that interview he says in no uncertain terms that he would rape Chris if his advances are refused. It is unclear if what he says really happens, what matters is that Jacob thinks that he's killing the homeless and summoning daemons which is just as bad. Chris tries to hand wave these glaring faults in Jacob's online persona by saying that everything bad Jacob has done, he did because he was possessed by Jakoba. Despite Jacob saying that it is impossible for Jakoba to possess him. Jacob claims that Jakoba is responsible for the &quot;red tape&quot; preventing the [[Merge]], and tries to hold it hostage claiming it will only happen once he has had sex with Chris or they sacrifice a small child. Although it is not known for certain what would happen if Jacob and Chris met, it would certainly not be good. <br /> <br /> ===Friendzoning and second estrangement===<br /> {{quote|I was following the request of Magi-Chan to keep on with Jacob, yet my feelings for him have developed, during the months. As for the present, I had to cool the romance, because even I Knew the whole time it was not meant to be, and Jacob's usefulness had become compromised.|Chris explaining his reasons for involving himself with Sockness to a random [[ween]]&lt;ref name=aqua&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5653000 Chris blames Magi-Chan for Sockness, 30 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> Pressuring Chris to abandon his other contacts ultimately backfired. Chris received the list itself lukewarmly: while he affirmed that he was in [[Love Quest|love]] with Sockness, he still maintained some reservations.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5574329 Chris endorses Sockness against MKR, 11 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; He challenged Sockness, noting that the list consisted mostly of Sockness's own enemies and asking whether he would be blacklisted also were he to turn on him.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5578153 Chris's challenge for Sockness, 11 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; Sockness went on to defeat the various pretenders to his position without much fanfare, though in vain: Chris was repulsed by Sockness's professed associations with demons, and issued a statement on 28 November 2019 that he was not in a romantic relationship with him, and moreover that the Dimensional Merge would be endangered if such intimacy were to occur.&lt;ref&gt;[http://archive.is/FVISg Chris rejects Sockness's overtures, 28 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; His decision was applauded by other enablers, some of whom had become Jacob's targets. Nonetheless, Chris still counted Sockness as a friend, and thought of himself as protecting him against demons.&lt;ref name=screech /&gt;<br /> <br /> As had come to pass two months earlier, when Chris disrupted his journey to Virginia, Sockness responded to the word that he had been rejected with [[tard rage]]. He delivered an [[Chris and negotiation|ultimatum]] to Chris, threatening to revoke his tacit permission to use his fictional setting in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and pursue him for [[Things Chris has ripped off|copyright infringement]] if he continued to use them, unless they got married.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/11-29-sockness-takes-his-ball-and-goes-home.63588/post-5650528 Sockness turns on Chris, 29 November 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; While Chris agreed [[Stress|apathetically]] no longer to use Jacob's demonic characters in his own works, he displayed in an autistic Parthian shot his usual [[honor roll|comprehension level]] of how [[Chris and copyright|intellectual property]] works: Chris's own experiences and memories of Jacob's [[dimensions|fictional universe]] were inviolable. Sockness remained adamant, sternly reiterating the [[Chris and the law|legal limits]] on what Chris could do [[Chris and money|financially]] with his characters in an endeavour to bring him back into his flabby arms. Holding firm, Chris stolidly divested himself of him by writing off their past business together as being at [[Magi-Chan]]'s request and describing Sockness as having outlived his usefulness.&lt;ref name=aqua /&gt; The two did not speak each other for over three weeks, and their friendship was dealt a hard blow.<br /> <br /> [[December 2019]] saw Chris's relations with Sockness continue to sour. Defying Sockness's order not to use his fantasy world, on 16 December 2019 Chris released [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card]], declaring that his final triumph over Jacob and his infernal horde was assured.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5727293 Chris commemorates his victory, 16 December 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; Later that month, Sockness sought to spark conflict between Chris and [[Other enablers#MKRNightVee|an enabler]], but Chris recognised and dismissed these as the fabrications they were.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5755364 Sockness denounced as forger, 22 December 2019]&lt;/ref&gt; On 23 December 2019, [[Marvin]] blocked Sockness's Twitter account. Sockness then angrily texted Chris to confront him over the block, but Chris decided to ignore him.&lt;ref&gt;[[The Place chats - Jacob Sockness#Marvin blocks Sockness, fated Pokemon card]]&lt;/ref&gt; Even Jacob's plan to confront Chris again at BABScon was derailed: the convention was cancelled in [[March 2020]] due to the risk of [[COVID-19]].&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.babscon.com/2020/ BABScon 2020 is cancelled due to SARS 2 outbreak, 18 March 2020].&lt;/ref&gt; Unlike the [[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris|deep scars]] left to the ''Sonichu'' canon by the Idea Guys, Sockness's contributions, if not rejected outright, seemed to have been turned on their head and made impotent to warp Chris's thought any more than it [[Chris and reality|already is]]. For once, it appeared that Chris had actually managed to evade one of his malicious orbiters.<br /> <br /> ==Brief Reemergence==<br /> <br /> {{quote|No. At least, not yet.|Chris, 15 July 2020, to a fan asking whether he and Sockness are dating.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1282966598911815680&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> Though Sockness had managed to make a reappearance in early 2020 and had attempted to get his foot in the door, it wasn't until Summer 2020 when Chris finally started humouring him in public again. Even so, Chris became increasingly dissatisfied with some of Sockness's behaviour, openly rebuking him over [[Twitter]].<br /> <br /> {{Quote|Therefore, all of your information is false, and, once again, you can shut the hell up about this bull shit. End of discussion. ⚡⚡⚡|&lt;s&gt;Chris&lt;/s&gt; Sonichu, rebuking Sockness over Twitter over his creepy behaviour and attempts at manipulation.&lt;ref&gt;[[July 2020 social media posts#Jacob sex obsessions]]&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> [[File:14BCFloorplan.png|thumb|150px|The supposed &quot;proof&quot; Jacob gave for visiting 14BLC.]]<br /> <br /> As a result of Sockness's secretive behaviour, much of what he has done with regards to attempting to get his foot back in the door with Chris can only be ascertained from Chris's comments and retweets on Sockness's posts; in early July 2020, Chris rebuked Sockness while [[Spirit possession|playing as]] [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] for his creepy behaviour, and then told him in no uncertain terms to 'shut the hell up' when Sockness attempted to trick him into believing he had a 10 year old illegitimate son, born from his fling with the prostitute [[Mia Hamm]]. Even though Chris remained under Sockness's thrall, still believing other enabler-forced events to be true in the same breath, it was clear that once again, he managed to discern reality from fiction for just long enough to shoot down Sockness's misbehavior, if only for a few moments. With the cancellation of [[BABSCon]] due to [[COVID-19]], he claimed to have caused storms over China for stopping his plan to &quot;meet the goddess.&quot; <br /> <br /> ==Second Blocking Onwards==<br /> In [[August 2020]], Chris got in yet another [[Twitter]] spat with [[Ben Saint]]. This time, Sockness decided to butt in and add his own flavor of idiocy to the slapfight. This proved to be the last straw for Chris, who called Jacob out once more before blocking him. Afterwards, this turned Sockness off on Chris for good as he later posted occasional rants against Chris on his Twitter and his personal Subreddit, attacking Chris for his opposition to [[Pmurt]], who Jacob supports with a religious fervor, and coming up with plans to disrupt the [[Dimensional Merge]]. However, Sockness eventually cycled back into displaying his affection to Chris in a vain attempt to win back his heart. Sockness continued to try to and worm his way back into Chris’s life, but with his public Twitter account being suspended on [[January 2021]] and Chris deciding not to respond to his tweets and texts, no progress was ever made.<br /> <br /> [[File:Sockness comic death.jpg|thumb|left|200px|[[Helena]] clarifies why Chris considers Sockness dead.]]<br /> <br /> In [[June 2021]], Chris made a social media post naming Jacob as being among the five most negatively impactful people in his life,&lt;ref&gt;[[June_2021_social_media_posts#Discussing_trolls_and_other_stuff]]&lt;/ref&gt; casting severe doubt on the likelihood of any potential reconciliation between the two.<br /> <br /> During [[August 2021]], as the fallout of the [[Incest call]] being leaked was occurring, Jacob responded to a Reddit thread asking about what he thought of the situation, stating that he no longer wanted to be involved with Chris, and that he was glad that the [[September 2019]] train trip failed.&lt;ref&gt;https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jacob-sockness-michiro-hutaki-agian-siin-jacob-js-darkseed2012-ramleironheart.48287/page-96#post-9585377&lt;/ref&gt; A few weeks later, Jacob made a video to spread a rumor that a member of [[Praetor]] was responsible for Chris having sex with Barbara.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.bitchute.com/video/SdSo0OsJhNcL/&lt;/ref&gt; Since then, Jacob has been periodically swinging between wanting to bang Chris once again, to hating his guts and wanting to replace him in his demented pantheon.<br /> <br /> == Third trolling cycle == <br /> [[File:IMG 5542.png|thumb|left|200px|Sockness sends Chris a photo of his ass.]]<br /> [[File:Socknesssightingmay.png|thumb|200px|A Christorian meets Sockness in person.]]<br /> <br /> Any newfound optimism onlookers might have found in Chris's ability to discern his [[enablers]]' true intent turned out to be misguided. Through early [[2020]], Chris had fallen further into [[Mysticism|occult]] practises. On 31 [[March 2020]], Chris built a pagan altar in his bedroom according to instructions found in one of Sockness's books.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6224799 Chris's altar, 31 March 2020]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/JSockess/status/1245166234393444352 Sockness affirms the altar is after his model]&lt;/ref&gt; Soon thereafter, on 6 [[April 2020]], Chris followed Jacob again on [[Twitter]].&lt;ref name=return&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6251631 Sockness returns to Chris's interest, 6 April 2020]&lt;/ref&gt; What precisely Sockness was doing at this time is unknown, as he restricted public access to his Twitter account on 19 April.&lt;ref&gt;[https://archive.li/V2QxB Sockness's restricted profile, 19 April 2020]&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> Jacob also declared that he would attempt to attend the brony convention [[Everfree Northwest]] in disguise the following year.&lt;ref&gt;{{Cite Reddit|subreddit=Kidasuna|title= Going to Ever Free|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}&lt;/ref&gt; In response, Chris asked [[Bella]] to act as a bodyguard.&lt;ref&gt;[[Bella chats#The Selected Few]]&lt;/ref&gt; According to a conversation between Bella and [[Fiona]], Chris had told them all about Sockness, prompting Fiona to declare him as the &quot;worst of A-logs&quot;.&lt;ref name = &quot;chess&quot;&gt;[[Chess Group 15 Chats#Sockness]]&lt;/ref&gt; Jacob continued to post about Chris, even during [[Jail Saga|his arrest in jail]], writing a letter to him in jail, which he claimed he would only post on an undisclosed paywall when he receives it. He also claimed that he had visited [[14 Branchland Court]] at some point, posting a recreation of the visit, which involves the general layout of the house, in Microsoft Paint.&lt;ref&gt;{{Cite Reddit|title=Floor Plan 14 BL|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Kidasuna/comments/u8jqsa/floor_plan_14_bl/}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]], Chris claimed Sockness had died. [[Helena]] stated in response to a fan that this was because a fictional version of Sockness was requested to die in her comic and Chris was told the death happened in the comic.<br /> <br /> == Bible ==<br /> At an unknown time, Chris had read a Bible that Sockness had sent to him. The Bible seems to consist of 7 books, numbered from 0 to 6. Each of these books is split up into somewhere between 4 to 6 smaller sections. The Bible was first retrieved by [[Naught]] on 14 [[November 2020]] and later posted on the [[Official CWCki Server]]. It was later recovered on 15 March 2023 by CWCki mod [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] and a former Watchman member. As a result of being discarded for three years, and many hoaxes surrounding Chris, the Bible had long since been considered a hoax itself.<br /> <br /> == Post-Jail return ==<br /> After Chris was [[Jail_Saga#Bonded_out_or_Released_by_court_order|released from prison]] and [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart|spotted at Walmart]], Sockness made two [[Instagram]] posts about Chris, the first was a screenshot of Sockness sending Chris a photo of his ass, the second was a repost of one of the Walmart photos.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.instagram.com/uaeoh415/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In an amusing twist of irony, someone spotted Sockness ''himself'' on 23 June, and uploaded two photos of him to Reddit.&lt;ref&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20230624025317/https://www.reddit.com/gallery/14hhgmt&lt;/ref&gt; In the photo, Sockness looks as hugely obese as he already is, with his belly massive, and wearing a [[Sonichu medallion]].<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[ChrisReleasesAStatementRegardingJacobSockness]]<br /> *[[Kidasuna]]<br /> *[[Nightvee &amp; the Warriors For Andromeda]], a [[TSSSF]] pack featuring lore from Jacob Sockness.<br /> *[[Sockness DMs]]<br /> *[[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Hxz4vhP6IkJwzxIgtX8HjXmB1k8sOMSz Jacob's Google drive, including all of the books]<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> <br /> {{JacobSaga}}<br /> {{WatchmenSaga}}<br /> {{Love quest}}<br /> {{fantasies}}<br /> {{People}}<br /> {{Articleofthenow}}<br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Sockness}}<br /> [[Category:Autistic]]<br /> [[Category:Chris's customers]]<br /> [[Category:LGBT]]<br /> [[Category:People]]<br /> [[Category:Sweethearts]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Lynchburg_and_Big_Island,_VA&diff=327177 2024-09-21T22:12:13Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>'''Lynchburg''' (pop. 79,009 in 2020) is an {{w|Independent city (United States)|independent city}} in the Commonwealth of [[Virginia]]. It lies at the center of the {{w|Lynchburg metropolitan area}}, which includes Lynchburg and four neighboring counties. Chris has frequently been spotted in the Lynchburg area beginning on 20 [[July 2023]], seventeen days after the last time he was seen in [[Richmond|Chesterfield County]].<br /> <br /> '''Big Island''' (pop. 300) is a census-designed place 18 miles (29 km) northwest of Lynchburg, in nearby {{w|Bedford County, Virginia|Bedford County}}. In [[June 2023]], [[Caden Peck]] purchased a house in Big Island at 10682 Lee Jackson Highway. In [[August 2023]], a business partner of Caden&lt;ref&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20240103000915/https://www.bizapedia.com/mo/northwest-biohazard-llc.html&lt;/ref&gt; registered an {{w|Limited liability company|LLC}} there called Realty Plus LLC.&lt;ref&gt;https://cis.scc.virginia.gov/EntitySearch/BusinessInformation?businessId=11583983&amp;source=FromEntityResult&amp;isSeries%20=%20false&lt;/ref&gt; [[Son-Chu|Chris's car]] has been spotted at the house, and Chris was since shown to be living there.<br /> <br /> ==Lynchburg==<br /> Chris has been [[Post-jail sightings (2023)|spotted]] in public in Lynchburg multiple times, beginning in [[July 2023]] and often in the company of [[Flutter]]. In [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], Chris says that he first met Flutter in Lynchburg.<br /> <br /> ===P.O. Box===<br /> In [[November 2023]], Chris provided a P.O. box address for [[fans]] to send fanart and gifts to, listing it as:<br /> <br /> P.O. Box 3037&lt;br&gt;<br /> Lynchburg, VA 24503&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[United States]].&lt;ref&gt;[[November 2023 social media posts#PO Box]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Big Island==<br /> ===House===<br /> [[File:BigIslandHouse.jpg|thumb|Photo of the house from Zillow]]<br /> <br /> On 26 [[June 2023]], a 5-bedroom, 4-bath property in Big Island was transferred to [[Caden Peck]] and Essential Estate LLC for $235,000.&lt;ref&gt;https://newsadvance.com/news/local/your-right-to-know-latest-property-transfers-and-building-permits/article_c5673740-1b96-11ee-ad2f-cf541414fe9a.html ([https://archive.ph/EIUvm archive])&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.trulia.com/home/10682-lee-jackson-hwy-big-island-va-24526-111741074 Trulia listing of the house]&lt;/ref&gt; A Google Street view of the house dated [[October 2023]] depicted Chris's [[Chevrolet Aveo]] parked in front, covered with a tarp (but leaving a wheel visible which matches confirmed photos of the car).&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:Coveredsonchu.png]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The house has security cameras in place. In [[May 2024]], after a stalker, TwistedFreak, pulled up to take photos of him in front of the house, Chris tweeted photos of the security monitor showing images of the stalker's car, and warned that, while he would not be releasing the license plates, he could report to law enforcement if the stalking did not stop.&lt;ref&gt;[[May 2024 social media posts#Stalker gets caught on security camera]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Chris has made several photos showing off his place and is recording his [[YouTube]] videos and livestreams there (with a digital background effect hiding most background objects). A door seen in [[Medallion Moulding Q&amp;A]] and windows seen in a photo Chris posted to Twitter&lt;ref&gt;[[December 2023 social media posts#Merry Christmas]]&lt;/ref&gt; matches room photos in a real estate listing for the house.&lt;ref&gt;https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/12d0567f1085ba2fdcd3136dcc6c1beb-uncropped_scaled_within_1344_1008.webp&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/e7ee7411ff8e37f4a76b10e7036b5690-uncropped_scaled_within_1344_1008.webp&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/f43bf0bb404ca25647f38fb7bdb861a1-uncropped_scaled_within_1344_1008.webp&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Chris seems to be paying rent for living on the property. During a gaming livestream from [[November 2023]], Chris said that funds from [[OfficialCWCmart]] and streams were helping to pay a mortgage (though Chris did not specify whose mortgage).&lt;ref&gt;[[First JCWCSP Gaming Live Stream ⚡️💙⚡️]]&lt;/ref&gt; In a [[January 2024]] interview, Chris mentioned that he was renting the place he's in.&lt;ref&gt;[[The Chris Chan Interview]]&lt;/ref&gt; Knowing his notoriously poor [[Chris and money|money management skills]], only time will tell if Chris will continue to responsibly pay for his living space.<br /> <br /> ===Visits===<br /> On 27 [[November 2023]], Discord user Ike drove to the house and took photos, posting to the [[Official CWCki Server]]. In these photos the car is not covered with a tarp, but the front and rear license plates are both covered.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Official CWCki Server - 27Nov23 - HousePic1.jpg ‎<br /> File:Official CWCki Server - 27Nov23 - HousePic2.jpg ‎<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> {{collapsible|Ike's commentary|<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Official CWCki Server - 27Nov23 - House Post1.png<br /> File:Official CWCki Server - 27Nov23 - House Post2.png<br /> File:Official CWCki Server - 27Nov23 - House Post3.png ‎<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;}}<br /> <br /> On 19 [[May 2024]], [[Reddit]] user Conscious_Box_ drove to the house and took photos. In these photos the car is not covered with a tarp, and the front and rear license plates are not covered.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichuSFW/comments/1cvu4zt/chris_chan_car_sighting/ ([https://archive.ph/gFAVz archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:BigIslandHouseSoncihuMay19._Pic1.jpg<br /> File:BigIslandHouseSoncihuMay19._Pic2.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> On 22 [[May 2024]], [[Kiwi Farms]] user TwistedFreak drove past the house, recorded a video, and took a picture.&lt;ref&gt;https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-18414439 ([https://archive.fo/XAa3q archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|I haven't kept up with Chris much since the whole Barb situation. I knew he was out of jail but didn't know much else.<br /> <br /> Drove through Big Island today to go fishing. Saw the Sonichu license plate on my way there and coming back around. I was able to snap a pic on the way back.<br /> <br /> I'd imagine Chris frequents the gas station nearby, as there's not much else around the area.<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Lynchburg Big Island Tour<br /> | video = {{#ev:youtube|gt4roThU4mU}}<br /> | stardate = 22 [[May 2024]]<br /> | subject = <br /> | style = <br /> | saga = <br /> | shirt = <br /> | previous = <br /> | next = <br /> }}<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Big_Island_House_Soncihu_22_May_2024.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;}}<br /> <br /> On 29 [[May 2024]], TwistedFreak made another visit and took two photos of Chris's car, this time with Chris himself in front of the house.&lt;ref&gt;https://kiwifarms.st/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-2069#post-18414439 ([https://archive.ph/7Zv1X archive])&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|Good afternoon Kiwis.<br /> <br /> I present to you Day 2 of #Crishing - a Twisted Freak Production.<br /> <br /> I come bearing answers to two long debated questions:<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;<br /> 1.Does Chris read Kiwi Farms?&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;<br /> 2.Does bullying work?&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> After less than a week of being publicly shamed on KF for his antisocial parking behavior, Christopher has changed his ways. See pic:<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:SightingMay292024_1.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> That was from this morning. On my second trip of the day #Crishing on [House address], I spotted a wild Christopher outside of his paper mill goon mansion:<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:SightingMay292024_2.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> So much for that airport fit, back to dressing like a 5 year old girl apparently.<br /> <br /> After snapping that pic, I flipped a U-Turn and went to H&amp;H Mart. After laying down a doozer in the bathroom, I saw Christopher getting gas at the gas station. I didn't notice him until I was already in my car. Rather than startle him with a camera in his face, I managed to snap a picture of him leaving:<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:SightingMay292024_3.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;}}<br /> <br /> ===House gallery===<br /> Interior photos Chris posted to [[Twitter]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:X - 8Dec23 - ToysPhoto2.jpg<br /> File:X - Christmas tree 22Dec2023.jpg<br /> X - Living room, no tree - 2Jan2024.jpg<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> Exterior photos from [[Google Maps]]<br /> {{collapsible|Google Maps photos|<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Big Island house November 2007.png|[[2007#November|November 2007]]<br /> File:BigIslandHouseGSVOctober.png|[[October 2023]]<br /> File:BigIslandHouseGSVNovember.jpg|[[November 2023]]<br /> File:BigIslandHouseNovember3rd2023.PNG|3rd [[November 2023]]<br /> File:BigIslandHouseGSVDecember.png|[[December 2023]]<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;}}<br /> <br /> ==Bedford==<br /> Bedford (pop. 6,657) is an incorporated town in Bedford County, 19 miles (31 km) southwest of Big Island. Chris was spotted shopping at a [[Mal-Wart|Walmart]] in Bedford on 16 [[September 2023]] and was spotted again at an undisclosed parking lot in Bedford on 19 September.<br /> <br /> ==Visiting Chris==<br /> Just like with his [[14 Branchland Court|previous address]], visiting the Big Island house is highly discouraged. Regardless of what Chris [[Affair With Mother|has done]], he still shouldn't have to contend with his trolls at his own house. It must be reiterated that harassing Chris at his own house is not only the paragon of [[weening|ween]] behavior, ''it is also a criminal offense''. Not only will this probably result in you getting arrested, but Chris is now using security cameras and can catch and easily report you if you're caught stalking his property. Again, we shouldn't have to be saying it at this point, but '''do not visit Big Island to troll Chris.'''<br /> <br /> The only exception to this is if Chris personally invites you over to his house, but the chances of this happening now are extremely slim.<br /> <br /> {{Articleofthenow}}<br /> {{References}}<br /> {{Places}}<br /> [[Category:Places]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Flutter&diff=322673 2024-04-11T01:48:56Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{protip|Should you encounter Flutter in public (with or without Chris) do NOT harass her. Getting a discrete picture is fine if you're able to, but don't directly interact with her or Chris. [[Michael Hirtes|Once you]] [[Jacob Sockness|make yourself]] [[Idea Guys|a part of Christory]], [[Fiona|there is no]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|escaping from it]].}}<br /> <br /> {{Infobox Person<br /> | title = Flutter<br /> | name = Unknown <br /> | image = Flutter.png<br /> | aliases = Egg&lt;br&gt;Meryl&lt;br&gt;Food Lion Lady&lt;br&gt;Cabbage Patch Kid<br /> | saga = {{saga|jail|cn}}, '''[[Template:ThirdExile|&lt;span style = &quot;color:#a7ccd2&quot;&gt;Third Exile&lt;/span&gt;]]''', '''[[Template:RevelationsSaga|&lt;span style = &quot;color:#b84250&quot;&gt;Revelations&lt;/span&gt;]]'''<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Flutter''' (born 1992 or 1993) is the nickname [[Chris]] gave to a [[gal-pal|female friend]] of his. Flutter reached out to Chris at some point during his time in [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]]. Sometime after Chris was released in [[March 2023]], he met up with her in the city of {{w|Lynchburg, Virginia}}, and they began hanging out together.&lt;ref&gt;[[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]]&lt;/ref&gt; Chris refers to her simply as a friend, suggesting that their relationship is not romantic, although he does not explicitly deny having romantic feelings for her either. Chris also claims that she is thirty years old (as of 17 [[October 2023]]), despite her [[Pedofork|childlike appearance]]. The nickname &quot;Flutter&quot; comes from her fondness for the ''[[My Little Pony]]'' character Fluttershy.<br /> <br /> After Chris's release from jail, he was frequently [[Post-jail sightings|photographed]] by people who managed to spot him in public. In [[September 2023]], he was spotted with Flutter for the first time. This ultimately led Christorians to begin theorizing about her, with some thinking she was a child due to her appearance, others thinking she was a social worker or possibly someone with a [[Slow-in-the-minds|mental handicap]] similar to Chris's own, or even a recruit by [[Praetor]]. On the 17th, she was spotted allegedly [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS|making out with Chris at a CVS]], causing many people to believe she was his girlfriend. [[Otaku King]] also claimed that the two of them were a couple. In [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], however, Chris simply refers to her as a friend.<br /> <br /> Some observers have speculated that Flutter may be Finnish or of Finnish descent, noting that Chris began studying Finnish intensively on [[Duolingo]] in [[October 2023]] for no apparent reason.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:Duolingo stats 23Nov2023 2.png]]&lt;/ref&gt; However, a Reddit user who [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Isabella's Italian Trattoria Restaurant|met]] Flutter claims that she did not have an accent.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/18upgdp/comment/kfm16ta/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Sightings==<br /> {{main|Post-jail sightings (2023)}}<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Food_Lion|4 September 2023]], Chris was spotted talking with Flutter at a Coinstar machine at a Food Lion supermarket. This was the first time she was sighted, and earned her the nickname &quot;Food Lion Lady.&quot;<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz/On_the_road_Part_II|9 September 2023]], a [[ween]] stalked Chris in his car. Reportedly, Flutter was in the car with Chris, and the ween remarked that she looked like a child.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(September)|16 September 2023]], she was spotted with Chris at [[Walmart]]. This was the first clear view of her face.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS|17 September 2023]], Chris was sighted allegedly hugging, touching and ''kissing'' Flutter at a CVS, she most likely does not reciprocate them however. On the 20th, the sighter posted two ''incredibly'' blurry pictures of Chris hugging and kissing her. While Chris is easy to see, Flutter is incredibly hard to see. The sighter also made multiple comments about her.<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[Chris] was all over that woman. Just kept touching her and had her hand on the back almost the whole time. She doesn’t look young.}}<br /> {{quotebox|She 100 percent looked uncomfortable.}}<br /> {{quotebox|She seemed uncomfortable and kept her head down mostly. I can’t say whether she was just uncomfortable or if she was low functioning.}}<br /> {{quotebox|Seemed like he was kind of leading the shopping trip. He also was very close to her at all times. Co-Worker asked if they needed help Chris made sure to step so that he was between my Co-Worker and the girl.}}<br /> {{quotebox|She paid.}}<br /> <br /> These comments have yet to be confirmed as fact.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Undisclosed_parking_lot|19 September 2023]], Chris supposedly walked into a game store with her.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#River_Ridge_Mall|1 October 2023]], Chris was spotted showing something on his device to her at River Ridge Mall. This was the clearest view of her face yet.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Game_Junkies|3 October 2023]], Flutter was seen waiting in a car while Chris was shopping at Game Junkies.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond_International_Airport|20 December 2023]], around 7:30 PM, a video of her was taken at the Richmond International Airport. Her origin flight was from the Charlotte Douglas International Airport, but the starting destination is unknown. [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz_(December)|Later that day]], she was also spotted at a Sheetz in Henrico, VA, and afterwards driven away by Chris.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|21 December 2023]], Flutter and Chris were spotted at [[Bella|Isabella]]'s Italian Trattoria Restaurant in Lynchburg. Reddit user JacksonStarship speculated that Flutter paid for the meal, also noting that Chris &quot;ate [[SpaghettiRoutine|spaghetti]] like a toddler.&quot; The user also reported that Chris hand-fed dessert to Flutter. JacksonStarship stated that Flutter did not appear mentally handicapped, nor did she appear an exceptionally young age. On several occasions she would keep Chris in check, stopping him from escalating situations. They were last seen walking away together in the parking lot.<br /> <br /> On [[Sightings (2024)#Cary, North Carolina|4 January 2024]], Chris and Flutter were photographed at Ultimate Comics in Cary, North Carolina while picking up tickets for the [[Animate! Raleigh]] convention. They were seen in attendance together on 5 January 2024, with Flutter wearing a face mask. On [[Sightings (2024)#Raleigh Convention Center|6 January 2024]], Chris and Flutter were seen outside of the Animate! convention, reportedly having been kicked out.<br /> <br /> On [[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx|23 March 2024]], Chris was spotted with Flutter at TJ Maxx in Lynchburg, VA, disproving rumors about her staying away from him due to the aftermath of Animate! Raleigh.<br /> <br /> Chris also had plans to go to [[BABSCon]] 2024 with her, but his two tickets were refunded due to the event staff being aware of his status on the internet. This is hinted at in his reply to BABSCon's email:&lt;ref&gt;[[BABSCon E-mails]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{quotebox|I was looking for an enjoyable, peaceful weekend with my friend that would have been more than very good and beneficial. But no, you dare deny us this simple pleasure as Pegasisters of the Brony Community.}}<br /> <br /> ==Wariness==<br /> Since late [[December 2023]], when Flutter returned to the spotlight, many people have joked about the inability of [[ween]]s to take a good photo of her. The first strong signals of this came to light on [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Richmond International Airport|December 20]], where she was noted by an observer to wear a face mask in public:<br /> {{quoteboxgreen|yes I was on her flight, I noticed her almost immediately but she wore a mask the whole time, It was subconscious so I didn't think much of it other than &quot;huh she looks familiar,&quot; but while she was leaving the airport chris was waiting for her he embraced her and said her name out loud, I was on the phone and couldn't make out what he said.}}<br /> When the said person approached them later, Chris was against him taking pictures of themselves. The same behaviour repeated [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Isabella's_Italian_Trattoria_Restaurant|a day later]]:<br /> {{quoteboxpurple|As they walked out Chris commented to a passing family “a family night, that’s nice” or something like that, and Egg had to pull him through the door. I asked Chris for a photo as he was walking out and he got PISSED. But I still shook Chris’ hand. Wish I could’ve gotten better photos but it was kind of a formal dinner.}}<br /> He has also stated Flutter didn't seem to be mentally handicapped and took on a near [[Barbara Chandler|motherly role]] during the visit.<br /> {{quoteboxpurple|Egg didn’t say a word to me, I passed their table at 2 points. She wasn’t noticeably mentally handicapped and seemed to be keeping Chris in check to some degree}}<br /> During [[Animate! Raleigh]], Flutter was seen with all of her face covered up by a face mask, sunglasses and her hair. Observers also noted her obsessive self-awareness at the event.<br /> {{quoteboxblue|I am legit annoyed that you people cannot be bothered to get one clear photo or video. How hard can it be?}}<br /> {{quoteboxorange|Genuinely this has been more difficult than you’d imagine. Flutter appears to be quite vigilant and unwilling (obviously) to appear in anything, especially candids. With her proximity to Chris it is not surprising there is a lack of high def photos}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxorange|i was legitimately right beside them on an escalator yesterday without realizing and genuinely she is so hard to see. she has such self awareness compared to chris it is insane}}<br /> <br /> ==Gallery==<br /> &lt;center&gt;<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Foodlionflutter.png|At Food Lion<br /> File:Walmartflutter.png|At Walmart<br /> File:Flutter.png|At River Ridge Mall<br /> File:CaryNC4Jan2024.jpeg|[[Sightings (2024)#Cary,North Carolina|Cary, NC]]<br /> File:Photos-from-earlier-today-v0-zrbilxihwqac1.jpg|[[Animate! Raleigh]]<br /> File:Chris chan &amp; flutter with security raleigh.jpeg|With the Raleigh convention security guards.<br /> File:Chris-chan-kicked-out-of-animate-raleigh-v0-alm3dykgevac1 cropped.jpg|Denied entry into [[Animate! Raleigh]]<br /> File:ChrisFlutterTJMaxx23March.png|[[Sightings (2024)#TJ Maxx|TJ Maxx in Lynchburg]]<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> &lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> <br /> {{Articleofthenow}}<br /> [[Category:Gal pals]]<br /> {{JailSaga}}<br /> {{ThirdExile}}<br /> {{RevelationsSaga}}<br /> {{People}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Saga&diff=322672 2024-04-11T01:44:42Z

<p>Homsar: /* New saga? */</p> <hr /> <div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *The current saga should be called the &quot;Revalation&quot; saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br /> * Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> * Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> ==Changes==<br /> So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> * I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> :*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline==<br /> [[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br /> So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br /> :*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> *I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br /> ----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Gregg Mays saga==<br /> Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> <br /> ==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br /> Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br /> * I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ===Actually...===<br /> Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> <br /> *Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called &quot;CWCipedia saga&quot; since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Ha i win sucker, I actually like &quot;Cwc saga&quot; as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> ::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br /> <br /> I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of &quot;The WallFlower Incident&quot;, we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Vanessa Saga==<br /> <br /> My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == more saga sum up images ==<br /> <br /> we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br /> [[image:Picture_4.png]]<br /> <br /> == Tito saga ==<br /> <br /> '''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br /> <br /> Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that &quot;Lovely Weather&quot; is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==IRL Saga?==<br /> <br /> It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an &quot;IRL Saga&quot; would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> * I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he &quot;left&quot; the Internet the &quot;CWC Exile Saga&quot;. But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br /> <br /> Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> *It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ****Maybe we should put &quot;interim activities&quot; as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being &quot;off the internet&quot; and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> *****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged &quot;Saga&quot; it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==PS3 Saga?==<br /> <br /> Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==Missing Sagas==<br /> Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br /> *1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==On Sagas==<br /> This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term &quot;saga&quot; gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br /> <br /> What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole &quot;saga&quot; thing. You have Chris and &quot;Miyamoto&quot; talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br /> <br /> So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not &quot;You calling Chris saga.&quot; Chris dressing up as a woman is not &quot;Tomgirl saga.&quot; Seeing Chris at the mall is not &quot;Chris at the mall saga.&quot; Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own &quot;Gigantic Attention Whore saga.&quot; Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br /> <br /> I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> *Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as &quot;X&quot; or as &quot;X Saga&quot;? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> :*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be &quot;Miyamoto Saga e-mails&quot; or &quot;Vanessa Saga chats&quot;? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> ::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Individual Saga pages ==<br /> <br /> I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br /> * EDIT: I noticed there are articles called &quot;Vanessa Saga&quot; and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br /> * I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> **I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such &quot;Jackie Saga&quot;, &quot;Blanca Saga&quot; or &quot;Julie Saga&quot; will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br /> * I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Second Exile saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> - I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br /> <br /> == Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br /> <br /> I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are &quot;taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.&quot;, I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this &quot;Facebook saga&quot; as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that &quot;Catherine saga&quot; at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br /> :Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there an &quot;Ebay&quot; Saga going on right now? ==<br /> <br /> Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br /> <br /> <br /> *I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br /> <br /> *So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br /> <br /> *Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a &quot;Tomgirl Saga, Part 2&quot; sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br /> <br /> In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Boxing Day Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br /> I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the &quot;Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing&quot;, but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br /> --Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br /> <br /> No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br /> --Fredinno<br /> <br /> == Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br /> <br /> Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br /> <br /> chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br /> should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br /> <br /> I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br /> <br /> == Just throwing it out there ==<br /> <br /> I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah. I agree with Ujirat here. Wait and see before declaring the Pmurt Saga. This has the possibility to explode into one of the most interesting sagas since the golden age, but right now, there's really nothing of interest that occurred since Eid, Pmurt, Eid and Feelings of the election results. The fumes are there, all we need is a spark.<br /> <br /> Maybe if Sonichu restarts, he'll include Trump as a villain and Clinton as a Christ like figure? I don't know. All we can do is wait and see (and prepare the popcorn).<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 23:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edits to Megan and Game Place Sagas ==<br /> <br /> Revised the Megan saga because it was described as the &quot;first and longest&quot; of the sagas when the Game Place saga ran a good six years longer than Megan's did. In the interest of the edit not being completely subtractive, the &quot;longest saga&quot; superlative was rewritten in the Game Place saga where it would be accurate. I suppose there's room for debate on it being the longest, though, since there is no exact date known as to when Chris started patronizing the Place, so it can easily be undone in that case. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 01:09, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update to 2017 ==<br /> <br /> It's been roughly a year since the last image was added. I'm working on an extension to the current timeline all the way to 2017, adding in the rest of the Selling out Saga, and adding in the Financhu Crisis. I was wondering if I should add in the Pmurt Saga, as some of you have dubbed it, or if there's anything else you all could think of to include it onto the list. You all have around three days before I upload the finished image.<br /> [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 02:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Don't, as the Pmurt Saga is not yet official (and most people are opposed to it anyway; see the &quot;Just throwing it out there&quot; section above)<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 02:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seems fair. Then I'll just add the rest of the Selling out Saga, and the Financhu Crisis. [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 03:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doopie saga ==<br /> <br /> If not much else happens with the saga by, say, the end of the year, should it be kept up?<br /> {{Unsigned|Hurtful Truth Level}}<br /> *Probably not. This definitely has potential, but there's the possibility it won't go anywhere like the Jeff, Johan, and Terra Strong debacles. A couple of videos by Chris or an escalation of his discourse with Doopie would solidify this as a saga to me. Otherwise, this wouldn't really be worth mentioning on this article. --[[User:Galilean|Galilean]] ([[User talk:Galilean|talk]]) 20:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Yeah, nah, sagas can't really be named until after the fact. I'm removing the doopie section until something funny happens. [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Recently, Doopie has been becoming subject to trolling mainly from interacting with Chris. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Jessica saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should Jessica Quinn be a saga?<br /> <br /> <br /> I think it should be listed, as it's separate enough from the Doopie saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ladyfriend Managers saga ==<br /> <br /> There should be a saga entry for the trolling from 2015-2016, which included characters like [[Jeff/Francine]], [[Sam and Ellen]] and [[Johan]]. Chris let it slip that he thought he had a manager at least twice - [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/December_2015_Facebook_Posts in December 2015 on Facebook] and again in July 2016 [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Announcement_20160709|in a video]. Given the timeframe, they were probably behind that content. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Reverted an edit which removed the Lady Managers for being too minor of a saga. I disagree - they influenced Chris for a while. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vanessa Saga ==<br /> <br /> Is the Vanessa Saga really a &quot;Saga?&quot; it's just some random troll who chatted Chris a few times via AIM. It doesn't seem like a noticeable chapter in Chris' life to be a saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> ==2nd Exile Saga==<br /> <br /> I'm surprised that there is no mention of the 2nd CWC exile. I think it should be added. [[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:42, 26 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timeline ==<br /> <br /> Somebody needs to update the Timeline, that thing hasn't been updated since the Doopie Saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> == Idea Guy ==<br /> <br /> It's too soon to declare the idea guy saga over, we should probably wait say a month or so to see if Chris responds to the doxxing fiasco or if he's still under his control.<br /> <br /> <br /> Does the Idea Guy saga really need to be extended to April? Wise has nothing to do with any of Chris' current shenanigans, and [[Dick Licker; that is I]] [https://kiwifarms.net/members/shadow-resident.23381/ was apparently natural according to Shadow Resident]. Either way, Wise doesn't have any place in recent Chris content. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 15:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I do have plans to rename the saga to the &quot;Coercion&quot; saga, or something similar, since lately, a lot of what Wise did has pretty much influenced a lot of people to continue fucking up Chris' already messed up psyche. In a sense, it does seem like somewhat of a continuation of the saga in question, we'll just see what happens for the rest of the month. For now, I've decided to rollback all of the edits I've made on the saga itself. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]<br /> <br /> == Explain the 'Lady Managers' and Pmurt Sagas ==<br /> I get what in Chris's life they refer to, but I'm not sure whether they should count as sagas, and given that no one has filled in their sections on the page, I don't think I'm alone.<br /> <br /> From what I understand the 'Lady Managers Saga' seems to be defined as a combination of Chris's interactions with Jeff/Francine, Sam and Ellen, and the &quot;lady managers&quot; themselves - but none of these events seem connected, and Chris never mentioned the lady managers in relation to either of the troll encounters. Do we know exactly what influence they had on him?<br /> <br /> Calling Chris's comments on Trump a saga feels like a stretch; all they really illustrate is that Chris fairly mainstream political views, but behaves like a child when he doesn't get his way. Chris has made more political content since 2016, but the state of national politics has had no real impact on his life and he's never really acted on his anti-Trump hysteria. If he had written a bunch of left-wing diatribes into Sonichu or stayed home from Bronycon to bash the fash back in Charlottesville, I could understand, but he hasn't, so making a big deal out of it just feels like pro-Trump schadenfreude. While Chris's recent political views are fair game, they're already covered on the [[Chris and politics]] page.<br /> <br /> :Writing about the Lady Managers is tricky because they never released their info. We know they were active from December 2015 to July 2016, since Chris let slip at those times that he thought he had managers. The characters they came up have a common theme revolving around mocking or getting Chris to talk about his tomgirl lifestyle - Jeff/Francine was a parody of him and ADF, Sam and Ellen got him to talk about his frozen semen collection and fuck another blow-up doll on camera by framing it as a sex audition for who would get to impregnate them.<br /> <br /> :Chris took his hatred against Pmurt to a comical extreme. He wrecked toys as effigies on video, hanged Lego Trump and Pence, and made the death threat. I think it merits a saga because Chris was obsessed with him for a few months and the content was funny. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Merging Idea Guy and Magi-Cryzel sagas ==<br /> <br /> [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-590#post-3373402 Evidence has surfaced] which indicates that Josh Wise was responsible for both Idea Guy and the stuff that happened during Magi-Cryzel. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:18, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Megan ==<br /> <br /> I think the Megan saga ended in 2008, when she cut off contact with him. Chris may have raged about her / gotten nostalgic for her years later, but those are more of follow-ups rather than part of the core saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Null has done nothing ==<br /> <br /> Given Chris' recent insane ramblings the consensus on KF seems to be that Idea Guy is back yet again. If Null was still being Chris' bodyguard wouldn't he have stopped this? He got Chris to forward all emails and texts so Josh or that Kentucky guy should have been spotted immediately identified by Null. He's been mum on this for a while too, he hasn't doxed a ween in ages. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 23:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I never considered the &quot;Guard Dog&quot; saga to be true saga anyways. Also, we have yet to confirm his recent antics to be the acts of the Idea Guys. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Null isn't the only bodyguard. The Captain seems to be the one who's talking with Chris the most right now. And like Larry said, it's not confirmed who the new trolls are, whether they're the original Idea Guys or someone else. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Though it is an ongoing saga, so if you want to include it, I'd suggest a new entry, &quot;Magi-Chan saga&quot;, since the troll is posing as Magi-Chan. If it turns out to have been the original Idea Guys, we can merge it like how we did the Cryzel saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:18, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rewrite Dimensional Merge to focus on Teen Troon Squad ==<br /> <br /> On other wiki pages, we have entries referring to both &quot;Dimensional Merge&quot; and &quot;Teen Troon Squad,&quot; which refer to the same overall chain of events.<br /> <br /> But the Merge is more of a subsection of [[Teen Troon Squad]], since it's their idea. And in addition to the Merge, the Squad has also been releasing Idea Guy videos and their own screencaps of convos with Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 12:11, 30 December 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sagas prior to the Megan Saga ==<br /> <br /> Since the Megan saga began prior to Chris's discovery, shouldn't we add high school and college as sagas? They were both important times in Christory, and since so many of his early antics happened at [[PVCC]] (i.e., the [[sign]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], etc.), his college days should definitely be a saga. High school too, since that's where he created Sonichu and met his gal pals. Should I go ahead and add high school and college as sagas? [[User:AAE|AAE]] ([[User talk:AAE|talk]]) 22:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Based on the current definition of a saga:'an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time.', I do not think a high school saga would be appropriate. I do think that you could make a stronger case for a PVCC/Mary Lee Walsh saga since there was much more drama involved and the significant ways Mary Lee Walsh and Chris' time at college would influence his future life. Chris' college years are also the begining of the first online discussion of Chris, so I think a college saga would be important. [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 12:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Potential MKRNightvee saga ==<br /> <br /> Due to Chris more closely and more frequently associating with Meghan Ringo I think that there should be a saga dedicated to her. I think at this point MKR has been outed as a troll and Chris is convinced of her legitimacy. [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454 Thread on MKR's manipulative ways.] - [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Too soon to call right now. So far, she's only had some set-up done. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chris' twitter lockdown ==<br /> <br /> Would you consider his recent twitter actions as a potential 3rd Exile? [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline Update==<br /> <br /> Since the timeline graphic was last updated there have been sagas created that fall outside the 2005-2018 dates on the timeline graphic. Should I update the timeline graphic with all of the new sagas? [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Soft Exile naming issue ==<br /> <br /> The way this saga is centered around the exile, it could continue indefinitely if Chris keeps his new account protected. It might be good to refocus this to be about Chris freaking out over the blocking bronies instead - he just tweeted that he's done with the blocking drama, so assuming that holds true, then 22 February would be the end of this saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Looks like he's not over it quite yet https://i.imgur.com/QqJdGUl.png [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 07:26, 23 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reinstate the Merge saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris is still mentioning the merge stuff and it seems like the Teen Troon Squad were just Idea Guy wannabes. Plus the Troon squad is no longer influencing him now.<br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:49, 13 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Agreed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I too like this idea. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Classifying some sagas as eras ==<br /> <br /> From a discussion on the Tomgirl Saga talk page, we should reclassify some items on the Saga list as eras instead. An era could be defined as a set of events which could go on indefinitely, as opposed to a saga which is a story that eventually wraps up or fizzles out, and be filed under the same column as the Exile sections. Transgender (renaming Tomgirl), Financhu Crisis, Business, Dimensional Merge, and Soft Exile could classify as that. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm sure you have thought long and hard about this, but the exiles are already confusing to read after getting through the non-linear list of sagas. Further confusion comes from &quot;Inter Exile Sagas&quot; which are like Star Wars spinoff movies. I don't get it. The timeline graphic is long, and there is overall a lot to wade through. It would be nice to know all of what has happened and is happening at a glance. As for the word &quot;era&quot;, it's accurate but less exciting than &quot;saga&quot;. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Section: Pre-Christory ==<br /> <br /> I was just thinking recently, shouldn't we have a section on Pre-Christory? I'd personally define it as the period before Chris became noticed by Encyclopedia Dramatica. Basically, it would be the period where Chris was still a goofball, but wasn't nearly as infamous. In that same section, I was thinking we should add a sub-section for his high school years, as that somewhat shaped who he is today, and it was a significant era in his life. It would also include the PVCC, Megan, and Adam Sagas.[[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 21:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I don't think the Jacob Saga is over ==<br /> <br /> With Chris appointing him as the overseer of his Patreon, the Twitter dialogue about wanting to share a kiss, and Jacob planning an alleged Halloween visit suggests that their interactions are far from over. It does seem that the rift from September 28 to now just seems like a lull, and most Sagas had lulls and I know of many that were prematurely given an end date during said lulls. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 02:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Categories for Sagas. ==<br /> <br /> For the past decade, sagas were put into two groups, ones for sweethearts, others for trolls. Considering that the Love Quest is now over, I think we might need a category for Chris' finances or one for his enablers. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> : Sagas describe the content we get from Chris, and the Financhu Crisis, if looming in the background for quite a while, has certainly not been a running theme driving Chris's antics since 2017 or so. Begging is too related to unrelated, incidental expenses and satisfied by enablers too quickly for Chris to sustain output within a theme. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 23:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Enablers saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should [[Enablers]] / [[Other enablers]] have a saga entry? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Why would we need to have an enablers saga? Doesn't the Dimensional Merge Saga kind of cover that? [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 08:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree with PsychoNerd. Classic Chris had an epidemic of weens, and modern Chris has one of enablers. Neither wave of mimics deserves its own saga. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 08:46, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thetan ==<br /> <br /> Maybe [[Thetan]] could be added to the Saga list. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:30, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :I disagree. I feel that Thetan's activities were too broad and far apart to qualify. I mean, she's essentially along the lines of [[Kim Wilson]]/[[Emily]], but she doesn't have a dedicated saga. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 18:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not sure about Thetan's activities being too broad - those primarily revolved around posing as ex-classmates in 2013/14. She also did other things like impersonate the firefighter or be involved with the Catherine saga though those don't seem as significant as the classmate stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :::I see what you are going for in the sense of Thetan posing as Chris's former classmates, but I still feel that making an entire saga around her is unnecessary. Maybe something along the lines of a &quot;Manchester High Reunion Saga&quot; would be a better option. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 19:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incest Saga ==<br /> <br /> Continuing [[:Template talk:Incest|from this talk page]], on second thought maybe we should split &quot;Incest&quot; to a sub-Saga called &quot;Incest Leak Drama&quot;? Leak Drama can house the tangential drama surrounding Bella/the Suitress/The WCT. Because those three weren't involved with the Incest itself so to label them as being part of the &quot;incest&quot; saga on their pages is a bit misleading. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I feel like the &quot;Incest Saga&quot; was always primarily about both the Incest itself, and partly the drama that surrounds it. Even though Bella and the Suitress weren't directly connected to him fucking his mom, I still feel they played a very crucial role in the saga in that the former had essentially recorded Chris admitting to the act, and that the latter had leaked the parts of the call, which subsequently led to his arrest. I guess the stuff on WCT is probably better suited for the &quot;Watchmen Saga&quot;? Anything that's not directly related to Chris should not be summarized under there. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, Bella/the Suitress were what caused the Incest saga to end. I guess if we keep the incest saga intact and not split it, the part on the tangential drama could just be deleted - the paragraph about Bella's damage control (which is mentioned on her/the Suitress articles anyway). I agree with the point about The WCT because he was acting as a Watchman when he tried asking Bella for her side of the story and ended up getting manipulated into her sideshow drama which isn't really directly related to Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Third Exile==<br /> <br /> Now that Chris has been transferred out of jail, should we consider renaming &quot;Jail Saga&quot; to the &quot;Third Exile&quot;? Because it doesn't seem we'll get that much out of the hospital. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 02:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is he still technically incarcerated, just at the hospital instead of a jail? He might return to the jail later. Maybe wait until whatever happens in July to clarify his situation. Or rename it now and rename it again in July if needed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 13:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::In that case, I guess we can keep the name. If he goes back to jail, we can just add the date in which he's brought back. I just don't really see a &quot;Nuthouse Saga&quot; anytime soon. If by July he's still in the nuthouse, I say we rename it. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 14:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everfree Northwest ==<br /> <br /> At the moment, all of the stuff regarding Everfree is considered part of the Watchmen saga. I can't help but think we should move it to the Jacob saga, as a majority of the concerns regarding that event was about Jacob showing up there in disguise, and was basically the whole reason Chris asked Bella and the Suitress to accompany him. Any objections to this? [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 18:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds fine. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:36, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Nuthouse Saga Merge ==<br /> <br /> Should we merge the nuthouse saga with the jail saga? Given it was such a short period of time, I feel like it's more accurate to describe it as an event of the jail saga rather than it's own listed period of time, as well as it being covered on the [[Jail Saga]] page already. [[User:SodaSpring|SodaSpring]] ([[User talk:SodaSpring|talk]]) 05:44, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Freedom Saga ==<br /> <br /> The most recent saga in this page is entitled &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; which I named. The previous name for this saga was &quot;CWC Was Here Saga&quot; which I changed as I thought it was too long. There is currently no consensus on what the name of the saga that covers the 8 August 2023-Present should be so I choose &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; as an interregnum name. Does anyone have a better suggestion on what the name of this saga should be?<br /> :Both &quot;Freedom&quot; and &quot;Incognito&quot; are too vague and could be the name of other sagas. There are other sagas which have longer names then &quot;CWC Was Here&quot; such as the &quot;Nathaniel Greene&quot; or &quot;Leonard Bearstein&quot; sagas. The saga icon is a reference to {{w|Kilroy was here}}, which I think fits well. Another saga name could be &quot;Kilroy&quot; saga, but I think that would be too confusing. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 13:45, 27 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Offical Rename ==<br /> <br /> I just held a poll on the Offical CWCki Discord Server for what name to choose for the current saga, these were the results.<br /> <br /> CWC Was Here Saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Incognito saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Freedom Saga - 7 Votes<br /> <br /> I think we have a very obvious favorite here, I propose an offical rename to the '''Freedom Saga'''. Stop changing it back to CWC Was Here Saga [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]], most people dislike the name. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 21:21, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I was unaware most people disliked it other than you and that other editor as when I messed up the previous saga name, everyone kicked off on reddit, which I did not see this time. I apologize. I think Incognito works the best, and it still with the saga icon. I will change it now. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 22:28, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Merge incognito and third exile saga ==<br /> <br /> They really aren't too different. Incognito Saga still has loads of post-jail sightings that apparently aren't a part of that saga, and the page has an 'other sightings' part for no real reason. It should just be Third Exile saga with Chris becoming more active in the latter half of the saga. I think that would be a lot more simple. Also it should go from 27 March to 16 October, he seems to be actually returning now. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 19:04, 16 October 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Christmas Saga? ==<br /> <br /> Over the past few days Chris has been talking about Chistmas on Twitter. He's predictably acting entitled and expecting his &quot;fans&quot; go shower him with gifts, he even hijacked Toys For Tots and made it about himself. Now this isn't new behavior out of Chris but I think this time is distinct because this is the first Christmas he'll have post jail and in his new position as Praetor's captive. I fully expect Chris to get more and more worked up about Christmas as it gets closer and he'll become more and more perfectionist. Those in the [[Unholy Tetrad]] will take notice, they always do, and given his Amazon wishlist tweet I fully expect weens to send a bunch of MLP G5 stuff to him. We don't need a crystal ball to see what happens next, Christmas will fall short of his expectations and he'll bitch about it be it on Youtube or Twitter. This has the potential to give us the first post-jail tard rage video.<br /> <br /> We're in for a lulzy Christmas that I believe will be quite notable.<br /> <br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:01, 14 December 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Publicity Saga ==<br /> <br /> I suggest creating a new saga, starting from January 4 and the Cary, NC sighting, Publicty Saga.<br /> As a result of his past actions, Chris has gotten a lot of bad publicity, both because of his own actions, and a group of weens and enablers he has ecompassed over the many years, especially now, after the Second Coming. Chris is on the blacklist of many cons, was kicked out of Aniamte! Raleigh, and now seeks shelter in unlikely places, such as the Keffals livestream.<br /> Flutter also seems to have left the scene as of January 13, as Chris was spotted alone near the airport that day.<br /> So far, the current events are:<br /> <br /> - January 4 -<br /> sighting in Cary, NC, which made weens aware of the event<br /> <br /> - January 5-6 - <br /> Animate! Raleigh, Chris was not allowed on the second day due to reports to the staff<br /> <br /> - January 7 -<br /> Chris claims that he has had a good weekend, doesn't acknowledge the events at the con<br /> <br /> - January 13 - <br /> Lone sighting at a gas station (probably WaWa) in Henrico County, near the Richmond International Airport, probably returning after dropping off Flutter<br /> <br /> A textwall ranting about CosmicKeyframe blocking him, start of bigger ween interactions over the next few following days<br /> <br /> - January 14 - <br /> Announcement of the Keffals livestream with him<br /> <br /> - January 15 - <br /> New video ranting about G5, con ban, blocking on Twitter ect<br /> <br /> A bit of a Q&amp;A on Twitter with weens<br /> <br /> Keffals has a livestream in which, among other things, she states that the conversation with Chris will be pre recorded and heavily edited<br /> [[User:XelaBlueThunder|XelaBlueThunder]] ([[User talk:XelaBlueThunder|talk]]) 06:33, 16 January 2024 (EST)<br /> <br /> :I see the potential, sounds good. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 09:21, 16 January 2024 (EST)<br /> :May be a bit early to declare a saga, should wait a bit to see if the pattern holds. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:04, 16 January 2024 (EST)<br /> <br /> == New saga? ==<br /> <br /> We lacked a Flutter saga, but as you still believe she might be a real deal and not want to be on there, fair. However, with Chris's absense from the internet (Over two weeks, all the content we get is pre recorded or by other parties), I think we might have entered either a soft exile due to Flutter, or another weird part of the Revelations Saga. I do not even wanna call it Revelations Saga anymore as all of the revelations have been done already. We've got nothing new going on right now. The whole Caden thing was a dead end. What do we do in this situation?<br /> <br /> And PS: How do I make a single reference to the CWCki for multiple items? I kinda need it for the video games list article.[[User:XelaBlueThunder|XelaBlueThunder]] ([[User talk:XelaBlueThunder|talk]]) 14:32, 8 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Should probably just wait until things become clearer. No need to rush with naming sagas. Currently seems to be a slow time for Christory. For the references you can do &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref name=streampoll&gt;[[February 2024 social media posts#Stream Poll|From screenshots of his games shared by him on Twitter.]]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; for the first item, then &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;ref name=streampoll&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; for the rest. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:53, 8 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :We already had a soft exile in 2019. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 21:44, 10 April 2024 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:GOPonySaga&diff=322671 2024-04-11T01:43:24Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>==Renaming==<br /> Considering that the MLP protest has long extended to G5 of the series, I think this template needs to be renamed. I am thinking of giving it a temporary name of &quot;G5PonySaga&quot; until a more permanent one is suggested. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 13:59, 9 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> World War III Saga? The End is Neigh? Premature Future Saga? Idk. [[User:XelaBlueThunder|XelaBlueThunder]] ([[User talk:XelaBlueThunder|talk]]) 08:01, 10 April 2024 (EDT)<br /> <br /> G5 Saga sounds the best. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 21:43, 10 April 2024 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Keffals_videos&diff=321498 2024-03-13T17:23:38Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>On 14 [[January 2024]], Chris announced on Twitter that he was to appear on a stream with [[Keffals]].&lt;ref&gt;[[January 2024 social media posts#Keffals collab]]&lt;/ref&gt; Chris had reached out to Keffals at an unknown time beforehand.&lt;ref name=greeting&gt;&lt;/ref&gt; The resulting interview, which took place two days later on 16 January, was not conducted live, and Keffals uploaded it onto YouTube later in the day.&lt;ref&gt;https://nitter.net/keffals/status/1747366728311439784&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Chris's Greeting==<br /> On an unknown date, Chris had reached out to Keffals over [[Discord]]. When Keffals was skeptical it was the [[true and honest]] Chris, he recorded a brief video clip and sent it to Keffals to prove it was really him speaking.&lt;ref name=greeting&gt;https://youtu.be/m-mJ4l41nXA?t=1845&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Chris Chan Greeting Keffals <br /> | ytid = IydKZSIJDyc<br /> | stardate = <br /> | subject = <br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | saga = <br /> | shirt =<br /> | previous =<br /> | next =<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Transcript===<br /> '''Keffals:''' I didn't -- okay, so, like, I did not believe her when she first reached out to me and I was like, &quot;Please show me proof that you're real. There's no fucking way this isn't a troll.&quot; Cuz it was just in my Discord message box, right? Like you would think this was a troll.<br /> <br /> [''Keffals plays back video of Chris.'']<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' [''Sound muted for the first 4 seconds of the video.''] -ine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime. [''Keffals replays the video of Chris with sound unmuted.''] Well, good day to you, Keffals. This is ''Jesús'' Christ-een Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime, confirming to you that I am indeed the one and only. And that you need not doubt whatsoever.<br /> <br /> ==The Chris Chan Interview==<br /> {{DeadLinks}}<br /> On 16 [[January 2024]], Keffals interviewed Chris and posted the video online the same day. Notably, this is the first video in which Chris has worn [[The Classic#Replica|The Classic]] (or rather, a close replica) since his breakdown at TooManyGames in [[June 2018]].&lt;ref&gt;[[TooManyGames#Video 2]]&lt;/ref&gt; Chris also refers to having notes on hand that he read from at least twice, in particular when he was lying about his [[Affair with Mother]].<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = The Chris Chan Interview<br /> | ytid = mA80W7qVcSM<br /> | stardate = 16 [[January 2024]]<br /> | subject = <br /> | style = {{Reason|text}}<br /> | saga = {{Revelations|text}}<br /> | shirt = {{ClassicShirt3|text}}<br /> | previous = [[Focused, Divine Guidances - 01142024]]<br /> | next = [[January 2024 livestreams|Popular Request Game Stream]]<br /> }}<br /> ===Highlights===<br /> *When asked if he has any regrets, Chris replied about having fallen for [[Trolls|theoretical exes]] and singled out [[BlueSpike]].<br /> *Chris says he is going to be expanding his collab and getting his posse together with the help of [[Caden Peck|his friend]].<br /> *Chris alludes to the [[Big Island]] house he appears to be residing at, by saying that he is renting the place he's in.<br /> *Chris [[lies]] that his [[Affair with Mother]] was not real and that [[Bella]] had presented him with perverted ideas and that he had went along with it to test her, and finally that she failed the test by splicing together their video calls to report him to police. Chris's claims conflict with chat leaks which show that Chris had initiated discussion of incest with Bella.&lt;ref&gt;[[Bella chats]]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[[Chess club]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Chris spreads misinformation that Bella had wanted to record Chris and [[Fiona]] having sex and then claim Fiona to be underage.<br /> *Chris claims it had been his choice to let himself be jailed.<br /> *Chris says Russia is the modern-day Babylon and that Putin will fall by his own sword.<br /> <br /> ===Transcript===<br /> {{collapsible|Transcript|<br /> '''Keffals:''' If they were to write a book about the history of the internet, Christine Weston Chandler, better known online under the name &quot;Chris-Chan,&quot; would probably have several chapters dedicated to them. Known as the most documented person online, there's no shortage of information about her. ''[[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'' is now at part 82, extensively documenting her entire life. <br /> <br /> The reasons for this obsession with Christine are far too complex for me to address here. But let's just say she's not known primarily for positive reasons. People are in fact so obsessed with her that before I could even upload this video, I was given my own entry on the [[CWCki|Sonichu wiki]] - which I have printed off and hung on my wall to show off like a trophy.<br /> <br /> If you want to know more about Christine and the controversy surrounding her, I would recommend a two-part podcast series done by ''Behind The Bastards'' entitled &quot;A Terrible Story About The Internet.&quot;<br /> <br /> On August 2nd 2021 Christine was released from [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] after charges were pressed against her for raping her mother. The charges were dropped on March 27th, 2023, and Christine has remained relatively low-profile since. During her time in jail, a campaign I organized to get CloudFlare to drop [[Kiwi Farms]] as a customer succeeded, and this caught the attention of Christine - who was aware that many years ago, Kiwi Farms would go by another name: the CWCki forums.<br /> <br /> A few months ago, Christine reached out to me asking to come onto my channel and have a conversation with me. I do not believe Christine is a completely innocent victim, nor do I believe she is an entirely evil and reprehensible person. She has done terrible things and has had terrible things done to her. My interest in this conversation came from a place of wanting to understand her, and not mock or belittle her, as that is already overabundant on this platform.<br /> <br /> The following video is the conversation that took place.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' So I know when I put this interview up, like a lot of the people who were going to watch this already know who you are.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yeah.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' But I guess what I wanted to ask like starting this off is--<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Mm-hmm.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' --for the people who aren't familiar with who you are, how would you describe yourself?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Well, my full name uh which I'm looking to legally update soon enough is I am Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime, and I am the prime of all my self counterparts throughout the multiverse. But essentially who and what I am - I am actually the one avatar of all existence but I'm also the artist and creator and chronicler of the Sonichu and Rosechu species, especially in particular that of the specials, which are the ones that have more abilities in them as opposed to the regulars, cause the Sonichus and Rosechus they are species of Pokémon, electric hedgehogs, along with their evolved form Metonics and Vamprosas, and their pre-evolved form Sonees and Rosees, the baby Pokémon, you know? Heh. But anyway I've written and drawn multiple books and I'm looking to get back into that much more. I'm going to be expanding my collab a bit, just essentially getting my posse together in a way with the help of my friend who's helping me out here, which I'm renting the place I'm in right now. Putting that out there, in case anyone's asking because I'm breaking the fourth wall; you're asking! You're asking! All you weens out there, you don't know better!<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' It must have been a long journey for you.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Oh epically. <br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' People have been fascinated with you for more than two decades, like I've heard people call you the most documented person in history. There have been content creators who have made entire careers just out of talking about you. And I guess I just wanted to ask, what does it feel like to be like the closest equivalent of a real world ''Truman Show''?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Ha! Ha! Oh that's actually a decent comparison, but yeah uh it has its blessings and then it also has its drawbacks, I mean, shoot- I want to respond to somebody on Twitter especially on something I feel very passionate about? And then it's like you know I'll put, it's like y'know I'll make a comment on like Twitter like I did recently, and then the weens, the toxic ones, those darkest sinners among the minority - they're only [''audio glitch''] 1% of the whole worldwide population, that level, irredeemable, but anyway they get on me like that, they badgered the person that originally posted that tweet, and the person that posted the tweet that I commented on just blocks me - when that's not the answer because they're still going to attack them regardless, so the thing to do is just obviously just identify those that made those comments just talking about me building onto the drama of it all, as opposed to just answering the question which the individual was talking about, and just blocking them who made the comments. But anyway shoot [''sigh''] it's a real mess, so on the one hand it's just a good way to get ahead, get away, meditate, reconnect and just move forward.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' How do you move forward?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' [''Sigh]]] I try to clear my head as best I can, I don't always have the ability to do that but when I take my deep breath and get into my meditative mindset... and it's obvious that I connect with everything, heh, but it allows me to get myself grounded and then I just feel better. Still have a problem mastering it though, I mean just between my body and brain here just having difficulty mastering my powers and abilities and getting a better understanding of it all. At least we're making good progress along the way.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' I guess that's - it's a skill. It takes a long time, I know I still struggle with that.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yeah certainly day with me, even in my past lives and iterations of myself.<br /> <br /> [''Jump cut'']]<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' So one thing I did want to ask is - while I was preparing for this interview, I was like poring over so much of what people have written about you, all of the h- &quot;Christory&quot;, they called it. They created an entire new term just to talk about your own personal history. But the thing that's always missing and why I thought it'd be really fascinating to talk to you is how you feel about it, your own opinions on these things. How would you summarize the last two decades of your life, since you got the attention of the Internet?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Massive crazy rollercoaster. Just, I mean, as I am and as I was in my past life and everything, just, I would've attracted all this whether or not we had the Internet, but I have my mixed feelings about it. I have felt angry and upset with a lot of the downsides, and those that tried to - like they bullied me, they picked on me, they blackmailed, deceived me, and then obviously just drag my name, my good name through the [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|worst of mud, muck and bodily fluids]] and just their whole twisting it around and just making me a whole bad individual, which of course I'm not, I'm very kind, I have empathy and compassion. And in my works I've managed to try to convey that but obviously it's not perfect because the influences from these individuals that just effects not only me but just our entire universe and timeline in general, and then this, ''phew''. Enough is enough sometimes I just feel that I tolerate as much as I can and of course I keep an optimistic output and faith in the kindness and good and love of everyone in general, including yourself.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' I think like every person, even when they're an empathetic person, we all make mistakes and I guess--<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Oh most definitely.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Looking back, do you have any regrets?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' [''Sigh''] Hmm. Well the, I'd say among, I'd say - essentially just let myself fall for the theoretical exes as I call them, and let them do me over like they did, and I'm just going to name drop this one. [[BlueSpike#Julie|JULAAAAY]]. The Bluespike, that held my Playstation Network accountable and saw the loss of [[Medallions|Sonichu Medallion]] #2. [''points at backwards medallion''] #3's staying longest, testing the time. But that's just a whole thing I'm not going to go into right now 'cause [''[[Creepy stare|stares intently]], points at his face''] I think this expression just says enough. <br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Understandable.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yep. [''sigh''] But aside from that I do appreciate that like y'know they had to help shape and develop me mentally and emotionally so I could have that damage within me to be stronger and more ready for it in the longer run, so I can actually finally do something about it within like present tense in the recent years, especially after I managed to clear my mind over the past couple of years. [''jump cut''] So every blessing counts and then I do observe just, the not-so-good things which some of them can be considered blessings in disguise when you think about it.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Absolutely. I, I guess it's just been - there's been so many controversies that you've been involved with over the years, and--<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Ohhh yeah.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' If you could go back and redo any of them, is there something that you would do differently?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Well I guess if there's anything that I would do differently it's just try not to react so harshly just after I found out, found the Encyclopedia Dramatica page about me back in late 2007 I believe it was, and then finding the graphic fan art of Rosie Rosechu just being drawn with I mean, I mean yeah. Originally just like you know I thought, I mean, she was, she did end up becoming all female but it turns out she was a male Raichu before she became the very first Rosechu of all existence in general and then just obviously a physical transition for the chaos energy made her go from being a male Raichu to being a full intersex Rosechu to being a fully female Rosechu. Which is why she did end up having the pointed tail despite the fact that when I originally drew the Raichu in Book Zero I wasn't totally aware of female Raichus being different from the male Raichus just at the tail between a point to just a flat tip. <br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' It's interesting you bring that up, that actually leads me into a question - because I've seen this criticism be made about you repeatedly at this point - are you, do you identify as transgender? There is a rumor that is going around where apparently you are not transgender and your entire transition is a ploy to prey on women. <br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Oh good grief. So false, I mean, I've been on the estradiol and the spironolactone for years. I changed the marker on my driver's license from M to F. I grew out my hair for one thing. I think these [points at moobs] would also make a statement as well, but my eyes are up here! Haha. Ah, but seriously, no, authentic, I realized myself as identifying more feminine than masculine, so I literally came out as that to myself, and I realize I like it both ways so I fully identify as a bisexual trans woman. Two of the stripes on the LGBTQIA flag colors.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' I assumed that's what the answer was, because this seems pretty cut and paste transphobia that you see everywhere. <br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Ah yep, all the homophobia, I mean I was affected by that as well, and just the trolls and the internet bullying me and thrusting gay images on me like when I had the CWCkipedia and the individuals behind that just put them on the sides, you know these gay boy ads link to like porn sites or whatever. Hey, that's a thing, don't force sexuality on others, just let them find it out for themselves in their own enlightenments and developments period. And just essentially you find cringe in others, you'll likely find something encringing in yourself but hey, regardless of your background where you had individuals that supported who you were along the day and support others for who and what they were or not just, hey, just do not judge others for things that you are yourself. <br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' There were people who were telling me when this was announced that talking to you and putting this on a public platform would be irresponsible, saying that you are so mentally unwell and you're neurologically, developmentally challenged and that it would actually hurt you in order to talk to you. But I didn't go forward with any of those concerns, because - as someone who has been targeted by these hate sites and these stalking sites, I know one of the tactics that they often use is to try and alienate people from their victims.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yep, that's right. That's just nuts in general. <br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' For over half your life now, people have attempted, many successfully, to manipulate you into doing things you otherwise wouldn't do. Even pretending to be your fans in some case in order to convince you that those things were good. Do you find it hard to trust people now? And what impact has it had on your mental health?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Hmm. I do not find it harder to trust others because it just depends on their intentions, which is deeply resonant, from deepest within their energy and their souls as it were so it's just my innate sense, it's just like you know if intentions are going to be like somewhere the middle of the road that fears towards the greed, the hate and whatnot, then yeah I can just sense that innately without them even being come close to me because otherwise I would have not have sensed that Trump was so - trying to think of the word here - arrogant as he was long before even the first presidential can- debate between him and Hillary Clinton. Way back in, uh, 2016, I think that was in October if I remember correctly, maybe September but anyway I would not have sensed that long before that, that guy was just so arrogant I mean you look at his pictures from even before 2016 you would just sense how evil he was beforehand and how evil he was going to be, and I'm not going to say further than that. [cut to black]<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' One of the things I wanted to bring up as an example - and correct me if I'm wrong on this, I don't know all of the history of your life, I'm not like some of the more obsessed people on the internet who pick apart every little thing, but I know that there was a group of trolls who were called The Idea Guys and one of their ideas, what they wanted you to do, they were trying to manipulate you into believing that like your cartoon - your comics - were real, and that you had mystical powers and there was a dimensional merge happening where you could do to Quickyville.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Uh, well first of all it's pronounced CWCville, you just say CWC like it's spelled like the word &quot;quick&quot;. Uh but secondly no, they were pretty much affirming what I already knew long before they came because you look at the multiverse, anything and everything is possible in existence and just you know I literally have been to the other half of our Earth that was divided long ago in 1389 AD by Merlin the Magician and two other sourcerers by order of King Arthur herself. Just dividing the magic and the fantastical overpowered individuals and creatures into one dimension, and then Earth that we on, the majority, only has like so much magic in it into the other. And the merge IS happening where the two Earth halves are coming back together and we're all going to be tangibly coexistence which we have been for a long time, but there's been that tangibility fail in between us but it's thinning even more so we're able to see everything and everyone more clearly. But going back to the question at hand, Idea Guys Stephen Boyd and the individuals behind it, of course I've gotta mention Joshua Wise in that, just that guy did a massive tear and wear on the C197 half of our Earth but fortunately just because they deviate into multiple different timelines between when they started in about October 2017 up to about mid April 2018 just that was a whole bunch of mess and details where I mean - if anybody listen to the events between those two dates, late October 2017 to mid April 2018 you will see just like fantastical things that would not happen otherwise, just like if they continued on as normal, just even like the most minute of things, you just recognize or sense that. But yeah essentially what they did, they worked through me, and it just kinda like manifested in many ways for everybody and everything on the 1218 half but by the end of it I was able to undo all that and clear it up and just get a better understanding and appreciation of everyone and everything in general period. Despite what they did.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Do you ever worry, though, that people are able to convince you that you already had an idea in the first place?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Oh. I don't need convincing because it was an innate thing that I was aware of since I was born but I never realized. It's like you could say first perspective &quot;Oh sure, everybody has that, they just can't see themselves unless they look in the mirror&quot; but no, I mean aside from everybody just being like a typical camera just being like background individuals I'm literally the real player one [Chris makes finger goggles] my perspective is camera 0000000 but this individual is like camera one, camera two and so on<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Of course(!) I don't want to attack your beliefs and li-<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' It's not just the multiverse<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' -like the chance of all of those things actually being real, there's no way you can say for certain that it's a 0% chance. Just like any possible thing could happen in the multiverse.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Anything is possible [''jump cut''] So if anything all they were doing is just affirming and helping me get a better understanding for myself which I further realized in my bare meditations after I cleared my head and everything.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' I want to ask the hard question now. This is the hardest question that I have planned for the interview and I'm just saying this ahead of time, but - from what I understand, you were an inmate at Central Virginia Regional Jail from August 2nd 2021 until your release on March 27th 2023 on charges of incest. Those charges were dropped in August of last year. Now people have seen all of the criticisms made about you, they've gone through the court documents, they've presented it all over the internet, in the news etc. but what I've never seen about this side of the story is how this all played out from your own perspective, and I was wondering if you could tell us all how that happened. <br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Of course [Chris puts his hand on his heart and raises his hand palm outward] With hand on heart and hand above, the truth and only the truth. So anyway, so what essentially happened to just get this out the way as I mentioned earlier video, just there never was anything like that that happened between Barbara and I. Period. Now between the months in which Barbara and I - all we did was just talk and I just got to know her a little bit better in her past, okay, just like her father had passed and died and fell off his wagon way back in the day and her brother Stanley was the one that found him and then just essentially told the rest of the family, that was just one story for example, but it's just that made Barbara feel better in her later years and everything, alright, just talking and helping her go back to her history, revitalizing her brain cells and everything. Now aside from that, so, Isabella. So she is very sexually perverted and kinky and she had the idea of just setting me up to have sexual relations with girl Fiona who ended up in a mental institution for a week, and recording that on the assumption that Fiona was underage, which at that time she was not, she was literally 19 years old at the time. But then, yeah, Bella, she also tried to get me or rather persuade me into other sexual deviations of which I declined and she actually got me to go into roleplay and fictions which she had, which she presented just like various things and some of these were actually written in fanfics by others in this timeline and because shoot what did that do, they have their own crazy wilds and everything, just nuts. But anyway, so she just kept presenting the ideas and I went along with her because as a friend I had to test her out and see what she would do in the outcome because there were the four known outcomes with regards to Everfree Northwest 2021 convention, but anyway so - I'm just checking my notes here really quick, I had this written down before this, I thought I'd meditate on it in recollection - but yeah she essentially failed the test when she took all that, the video calls we did, and she spliced them all together and she admitted on a Discord server and uploaded that video to have her comrades call the police on me, reveal my location, they came to force me out of the house and then came to get me and all that, and obviously her intentions on that were essentially making myself go into being unalive, you know that's just not good, or institutionalized or end up in jail but since I had the choice I let myself be in jail - and of course I used that time to meditate, clear my head and really understand and realize myself, my role and everything that is going on - was going on at the time. During the jail and future tense and even present tense this day, this time, this moment. Sigh. But anyway, I'm just checking my notes here, oh right but essentially yeah she wanted me to fabricate all of that which you know was in a distant alternate timeline - very distant, but did not happen here, it never happened here in this timeline. And what she did to essentially try and get me to become unalive and whatever still backfired on her but moreover was a good point on me because I managed to, I got to clear my head and stayed alive. So that's a testament so no demonic or devil persuasion is ever going to make me or force myself to become unalive in general and just a further testament where I can count my blessings along even the darkest of situations. And by the way I really have no idea where they got the idea where I ended up in prison because there's a massive difference between just a community jail and a prison. These weens, these toxic individuals, they can just be so really really stupid sometimes. <br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' I'm sorry if I said that, I'm not an American, I don't know like the distinctions very well, but I guess jail is regional like a state and prison is like a federal institution.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yeah definitely. But anyway so in a way I did end up in an institution but I kept myself grounded and all that along the way during those couple of months and just let everything go along and play out as they were. I confirmed the details along the way with the newspaper, I'm so glad we got Brittney Griner back, and just unfortunately we had to lose, get the black merchant of death back in Russia, but fortunately since Russia is the modern day Babylon - going down! And so is Vladimir Putin by his own sword, feel free and mark my words on that. [cut to black]<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' It's interesting because this time period is actually where I get involved in this entire story somehow with Kiwi Farms - because while you were in jail, they didn't have you to talk about, and they were looking for new people to talk about. And that's when they found me. <br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yeah. And not only you but just everybody else in general period. I mean, shoot - hey! Who wants a lolcow of the Year award? Nope. Nobody.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Nobody wants this.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' And yet I end up with a 3D Printed cow in the mail one year, many years ago, just painted gold, and was like ok here's your lol- you've been elected Lolcow of the Year, I think this is back in 2014 or so, give or take. I forget when exactly.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' The thing that you're saying with Isabelle Janke I think really goes back to what I was saying before, where people try to manipulate you into doing bad things, into hurting you, and trying to convince you, plant the idea in your head that going forward with it is a good idea. You have a lot more life experience than me. I don't want to be in the position of trying to say what you should and shouldn't do, but I just hope that you take care of yourself.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yeah I do take care of myself and I'm just progressing better. I got a lot more good friends available by my side, I'm running my posse up there, things are shaping up for me, and not just for me, but for everybody else in general as we have a lot less and less of the toxic and evil darkest stimming individuals and coexistence with us. That number is decreasing.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' So, are all of the charges now dropped?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yes.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Ok. I knew about the one but again, I don't look - I'm not one of these obsessed freaks. I mostly wanted to do my due diligience because I know there's going to be a lot of people - when I said I wanted to do this interview, there were like dozens and dozens of my fans who said they didn't - they weren't even aware the charges were dropped, as people only follow to hate you. They don't care about the good news, they don't want to see you do better, so the good things that are happening in your life never get publicized. <br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yeah. They have all these outdated concepts of me, they just want to be like they think I weigh over 250 lbs or so, but no last time I checked on the scale I was around 215. And obviously I do work out, I go out, I exercise a lot - I mean I got Pokéstops in a few gyms nearby here so I can optionally go out and play Pokémon Go, just every day if I wanted to or just whatever. I do my own thing though my habits are rather inconsistent, there's still some inconsistency, I mean there's still some consistency in my habits, you know like I do shower daily! I do not stink! Where have you got that idea from? Just - have you ever met me in person? I take my showers, I wash myself with soap and water, I do not just use the Axe body spray as y'all have misconceived of that. I mean yeah it's a good body spray, it makes you smell better in the armpits at least, but it's not substitute for good old fashioned soap, water, shampoo and conditioner.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' I have an interesting question because you've been harassed and stalked far longer than you've been out as trans. Like this happened years before you came out. What's the difference been? How has it changed since you came out as trans?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' I'd say kinda more or less the same. So obviously they were aware of me not being on the normal, uh, just trying to think of the word there - well they just pretty much were on the idea that I wasn't straight in a way, you know sexually? I mean obviously it came out in like my voice tones, or from something I've written or drawn in the books in the past or whatever that they just pieced together, which ultimately it ended up being true when I figured that out from myself. And just now that that's out of the way it's been confirmed that I'm bisexually trans woman, it's like I feel like there's been a slight decrease because they realize - because they know that of me, it confirms it's one less thing for them to pick on me about, especially because that's more or less becoming acceptable though obviously could become more acceptable in the longer run in certain countries, which is going to be in fact and true, eventually, but it shall be good anyway. Anyway, but then there's like a slight increase on the other aspects as well and just whatever things they're going to pick on that's they find from within themselves respectively that they just thrust onto me in a similar way or another that they just think it's just totally cringe, they're going to attack me for that, but in the reality it's like they're attacking themselves for what they were. Like obviously, like some of them, they could be gay, and they just attacking me like &quot;yeah you're bisexual, you like dicks as well&quot; but hey you know what? Those individuals, they like dicks as well, and they should not be criticizing or judging others based on what they are themselves, regardless of their background, upbringing and those that may not have been fond of the just LGBTQIA and everything. But there's a lot of things they can reflect upon that and change for themselves, but also in another way as they talk it out, they're also just getting further processing and understanding for themselves. They're innately meditating and connecting without totally realizing it, they'll some just want to remain closed off and just stick to the old iterations so outdated, so last century. Hey! 2006 called, they want their kick the autistic gay back! They want their kick the LGBTQIA individual back! And so forth.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Now that you're out of jail and all of this stuff is behind you, how are you planning on moving forward with your life?<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Well, present tense, I'm moving forward with living life. Like I said going back to writing and drawing the Sonichu books, there's a lot more details and everything which I was actually able to get in one or two of my recent livestreams, reading Act 4 of Chaos Crystal Control, which took place back in late February 2006, but really brought it individuals from present tense, you know between late 2022 to early to present day right here - they just literally went back in time to that day. Including of course individuals like ProjectSNT and Courtney along with her, and even you know just like uh I'm going to name drop a few, so like Doctor Wolf, Mikey Bliss and Mad Munchkin just to name a few, oh and Elbaskaba, I love her by the way, she does just great great excellent voice dubbing and comic dub reading and anyway just a very kind individual in general but just more than them and there are a whole lot of others as well, they just literally end up going back to 2006 and then helping and manifesting one part of the ultimate miracle and the dimension merge still in progress and soon to be wrapping up within the next year or two. I don't have the exact date in my mind because nobody, not even me can know that, not even unconsciously because that is in the divine plan as from within the light sources and the Heaven realm and among the Gods and Goddesses and everything in this universe and this timeline set of universes, but moreover in this universe but also beyond that to literally the alpha and omega point of all existence, the beginning and end of all timelines.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Thank you so much for coming on the show Christine. It was a real pleasure.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yes. And thank you for having me Keffals and thank you again for just taking down Kiwi Farms that massive peg.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Well-<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' That was a lot more than I was able to do on Encyclopedia Dramatica page, for sure.<br /> <br /> '''Keffals:''' Here's what I learned after going through all that. I came to this realization. You can take down a website but the trolls never go away. They'll get a new website. At the end of the day, it's something you've either got to realize the kitchen is hot and deal with the heat, or you've got to get out of there.<br /> <br /> '''Chris:''' Yeah. I got flames around me. I'm pretending I'm in the kitchen like that dog is - &quot;oh sure, it's all fine&quot;. I could just tolerate it or I could just whoosh it away and let the flames be gone with holy light power and cleansing goodness}}<br /> {{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Focused, Divine Guidances - 01142024]]|nextlink=[[January 2024 livestreams|Popular Request Game Stream]]}}<br /> {{References}}<br /> {{FanChats}}<br /> [[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2024]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Saga&diff=318771 2024-01-16T14:21:14Z

<p>Homsar: /* Publicity Saga */</p> <hr /> <div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *The current saga should be called the &quot;Revalation&quot; saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br /> * Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> * Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> ==Changes==<br /> So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> * I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> :*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline==<br /> [[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br /> So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br /> :*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> *I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br /> ----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Gregg Mays saga==<br /> Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> <br /> ==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br /> Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br /> * I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ===Actually...===<br /> Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> <br /> *Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called &quot;CWCipedia saga&quot; since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Ha i win sucker, I actually like &quot;Cwc saga&quot; as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> ::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br /> <br /> I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of &quot;The WallFlower Incident&quot;, we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Vanessa Saga==<br /> <br /> My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == more saga sum up images ==<br /> <br /> we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br /> [[image:Picture_4.png]]<br /> <br /> == Tito saga ==<br /> <br /> '''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br /> <br /> Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that &quot;Lovely Weather&quot; is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==IRL Saga?==<br /> <br /> It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an &quot;IRL Saga&quot; would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> * I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he &quot;left&quot; the Internet the &quot;CWC Exile Saga&quot;. But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br /> <br /> Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> *It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ****Maybe we should put &quot;interim activities&quot; as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being &quot;off the internet&quot; and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> *****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged &quot;Saga&quot; it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==PS3 Saga?==<br /> <br /> Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==Missing Sagas==<br /> Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br /> *1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==On Sagas==<br /> This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term &quot;saga&quot; gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br /> <br /> What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole &quot;saga&quot; thing. You have Chris and &quot;Miyamoto&quot; talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br /> <br /> So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not &quot;You calling Chris saga.&quot; Chris dressing up as a woman is not &quot;Tomgirl saga.&quot; Seeing Chris at the mall is not &quot;Chris at the mall saga.&quot; Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own &quot;Gigantic Attention Whore saga.&quot; Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br /> <br /> I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> *Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as &quot;X&quot; or as &quot;X Saga&quot;? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> :*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be &quot;Miyamoto Saga e-mails&quot; or &quot;Vanessa Saga chats&quot;? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> ::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Individual Saga pages ==<br /> <br /> I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br /> * EDIT: I noticed there are articles called &quot;Vanessa Saga&quot; and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br /> * I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> **I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such &quot;Jackie Saga&quot;, &quot;Blanca Saga&quot; or &quot;Julie Saga&quot; will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br /> * I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Second Exile saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> - I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br /> <br /> == Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br /> <br /> I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are &quot;taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.&quot;, I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this &quot;Facebook saga&quot; as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that &quot;Catherine saga&quot; at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br /> :Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there an &quot;Ebay&quot; Saga going on right now? ==<br /> <br /> Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br /> <br /> <br /> *I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br /> <br /> *So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br /> <br /> *Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a &quot;Tomgirl Saga, Part 2&quot; sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br /> <br /> In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Boxing Day Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br /> I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the &quot;Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing&quot;, but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br /> --Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br /> <br /> No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br /> --Fredinno<br /> <br /> == Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br /> <br /> Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br /> <br /> chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br /> should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br /> <br /> I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br /> <br /> == Just throwing it out there ==<br /> <br /> I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah. I agree with Ujirat here. Wait and see before declaring the Pmurt Saga. This has the possibility to explode into one of the most interesting sagas since the golden age, but right now, there's really nothing of interest that occurred since Eid, Pmurt, Eid and Feelings of the election results. The fumes are there, all we need is a spark.<br /> <br /> Maybe if Sonichu restarts, he'll include Trump as a villain and Clinton as a Christ like figure? I don't know. All we can do is wait and see (and prepare the popcorn).<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 23:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edits to Megan and Game Place Sagas ==<br /> <br /> Revised the Megan saga because it was described as the &quot;first and longest&quot; of the sagas when the Game Place saga ran a good six years longer than Megan's did. In the interest of the edit not being completely subtractive, the &quot;longest saga&quot; superlative was rewritten in the Game Place saga where it would be accurate. I suppose there's room for debate on it being the longest, though, since there is no exact date known as to when Chris started patronizing the Place, so it can easily be undone in that case. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 01:09, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update to 2017 ==<br /> <br /> It's been roughly a year since the last image was added. I'm working on an extension to the current timeline all the way to 2017, adding in the rest of the Selling out Saga, and adding in the Financhu Crisis. I was wondering if I should add in the Pmurt Saga, as some of you have dubbed it, or if there's anything else you all could think of to include it onto the list. You all have around three days before I upload the finished image.<br /> [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 02:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Don't, as the Pmurt Saga is not yet official (and most people are opposed to it anyway; see the &quot;Just throwing it out there&quot; section above)<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 02:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seems fair. Then I'll just add the rest of the Selling out Saga, and the Financhu Crisis. [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 03:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doopie saga ==<br /> <br /> If not much else happens with the saga by, say, the end of the year, should it be kept up?<br /> {{Unsigned|Hurtful Truth Level}}<br /> *Probably not. This definitely has potential, but there's the possibility it won't go anywhere like the Jeff, Johan, and Terra Strong debacles. A couple of videos by Chris or an escalation of his discourse with Doopie would solidify this as a saga to me. Otherwise, this wouldn't really be worth mentioning on this article. --[[User:Galilean|Galilean]] ([[User talk:Galilean|talk]]) 20:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Yeah, nah, sagas can't really be named until after the fact. I'm removing the doopie section until something funny happens. [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Recently, Doopie has been becoming subject to trolling mainly from interacting with Chris. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Jessica saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should Jessica Quinn be a saga?<br /> <br /> <br /> I think it should be listed, as it's separate enough from the Doopie saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ladyfriend Managers saga ==<br /> <br /> There should be a saga entry for the trolling from 2015-2016, which included characters like [[Jeff/Francine]], [[Sam and Ellen]] and [[Johan]]. Chris let it slip that he thought he had a manager at least twice - [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/December_2015_Facebook_Posts in December 2015 on Facebook] and again in July 2016 [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Announcement_20160709|in a video]. Given the timeframe, they were probably behind that content. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Reverted an edit which removed the Lady Managers for being too minor of a saga. I disagree - they influenced Chris for a while. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vanessa Saga ==<br /> <br /> Is the Vanessa Saga really a &quot;Saga?&quot; it's just some random troll who chatted Chris a few times via AIM. It doesn't seem like a noticeable chapter in Chris' life to be a saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> ==2nd Exile Saga==<br /> <br /> I'm surprised that there is no mention of the 2nd CWC exile. I think it should be added. [[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:42, 26 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timeline ==<br /> <br /> Somebody needs to update the Timeline, that thing hasn't been updated since the Doopie Saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> == Idea Guy ==<br /> <br /> It's too soon to declare the idea guy saga over, we should probably wait say a month or so to see if Chris responds to the doxxing fiasco or if he's still under his control.<br /> <br /> <br /> Does the Idea Guy saga really need to be extended to April? Wise has nothing to do with any of Chris' current shenanigans, and [[Dick Licker; that is I]] [https://kiwifarms.net/members/shadow-resident.23381/ was apparently natural according to Shadow Resident]. Either way, Wise doesn't have any place in recent Chris content. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 15:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I do have plans to rename the saga to the &quot;Coercion&quot; saga, or something similar, since lately, a lot of what Wise did has pretty much influenced a lot of people to continue fucking up Chris' already messed up psyche. In a sense, it does seem like somewhat of a continuation of the saga in question, we'll just see what happens for the rest of the month. For now, I've decided to rollback all of the edits I've made on the saga itself. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]<br /> <br /> == Explain the 'Lady Managers' and Pmurt Sagas ==<br /> I get what in Chris's life they refer to, but I'm not sure whether they should count as sagas, and given that no one has filled in their sections on the page, I don't think I'm alone.<br /> <br /> From what I understand the 'Lady Managers Saga' seems to be defined as a combination of Chris's interactions with Jeff/Francine, Sam and Ellen, and the &quot;lady managers&quot; themselves - but none of these events seem connected, and Chris never mentioned the lady managers in relation to either of the troll encounters. Do we know exactly what influence they had on him?<br /> <br /> Calling Chris's comments on Trump a saga feels like a stretch; all they really illustrate is that Chris fairly mainstream political views, but behaves like a child when he doesn't get his way. Chris has made more political content since 2016, but the state of national politics has had no real impact on his life and he's never really acted on his anti-Trump hysteria. If he had written a bunch of left-wing diatribes into Sonichu or stayed home from Bronycon to bash the fash back in Charlottesville, I could understand, but he hasn't, so making a big deal out of it just feels like pro-Trump schadenfreude. While Chris's recent political views are fair game, they're already covered on the [[Chris and politics]] page.<br /> <br /> :Writing about the Lady Managers is tricky because they never released their info. We know they were active from December 2015 to July 2016, since Chris let slip at those times that he thought he had managers. The characters they came up have a common theme revolving around mocking or getting Chris to talk about his tomgirl lifestyle - Jeff/Francine was a parody of him and ADF, Sam and Ellen got him to talk about his frozen semen collection and fuck another blow-up doll on camera by framing it as a sex audition for who would get to impregnate them.<br /> <br /> :Chris took his hatred against Pmurt to a comical extreme. He wrecked toys as effigies on video, hanged Lego Trump and Pence, and made the death threat. I think it merits a saga because Chris was obsessed with him for a few months and the content was funny. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Merging Idea Guy and Magi-Cryzel sagas ==<br /> <br /> [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-590#post-3373402 Evidence has surfaced] which indicates that Josh Wise was responsible for both Idea Guy and the stuff that happened during Magi-Cryzel. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:18, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Megan ==<br /> <br /> I think the Megan saga ended in 2008, when she cut off contact with him. Chris may have raged about her / gotten nostalgic for her years later, but those are more of follow-ups rather than part of the core saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Null has done nothing ==<br /> <br /> Given Chris' recent insane ramblings the consensus on KF seems to be that Idea Guy is back yet again. If Null was still being Chris' bodyguard wouldn't he have stopped this? He got Chris to forward all emails and texts so Josh or that Kentucky guy should have been spotted immediately identified by Null. He's been mum on this for a while too, he hasn't doxed a ween in ages. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 23:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I never considered the &quot;Guard Dog&quot; saga to be true saga anyways. Also, we have yet to confirm his recent antics to be the acts of the Idea Guys. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Null isn't the only bodyguard. The Captain seems to be the one who's talking with Chris the most right now. And like Larry said, it's not confirmed who the new trolls are, whether they're the original Idea Guys or someone else. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Though it is an ongoing saga, so if you want to include it, I'd suggest a new entry, &quot;Magi-Chan saga&quot;, since the troll is posing as Magi-Chan. If it turns out to have been the original Idea Guys, we can merge it like how we did the Cryzel saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:18, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rewrite Dimensional Merge to focus on Teen Troon Squad ==<br /> <br /> On other wiki pages, we have entries referring to both &quot;Dimensional Merge&quot; and &quot;Teen Troon Squad,&quot; which refer to the same overall chain of events.<br /> <br /> But the Merge is more of a subsection of [[Teen Troon Squad]], since it's their idea. And in addition to the Merge, the Squad has also been releasing Idea Guy videos and their own screencaps of convos with Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 12:11, 30 December 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sagas prior to the Megan Saga ==<br /> <br /> Since the Megan saga began prior to Chris's discovery, shouldn't we add high school and college as sagas? They were both important times in Christory, and since so many of his early antics happened at [[PVCC]] (i.e., the [[sign]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], etc.), his college days should definitely be a saga. High school too, since that's where he created Sonichu and met his gal pals. Should I go ahead and add high school and college as sagas? [[User:AAE|AAE]] ([[User talk:AAE|talk]]) 22:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Based on the current definition of a saga:'an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time.', I do not think a high school saga would be appropriate. I do think that you could make a stronger case for a PVCC/Mary Lee Walsh saga since there was much more drama involved and the significant ways Mary Lee Walsh and Chris' time at college would influence his future life. Chris' college years are also the begining of the first online discussion of Chris, so I think a college saga would be important. [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 12:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Potential MKRNightvee saga ==<br /> <br /> Due to Chris more closely and more frequently associating with Meghan Ringo I think that there should be a saga dedicated to her. I think at this point MKR has been outed as a troll and Chris is convinced of her legitimacy. [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454 Thread on MKR's manipulative ways.] - [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Too soon to call right now. So far, she's only had some set-up done. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chris' twitter lockdown ==<br /> <br /> Would you consider his recent twitter actions as a potential 3rd Exile? [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline Update==<br /> <br /> Since the timeline graphic was last updated there have been sagas created that fall outside the 2005-2018 dates on the timeline graphic. Should I update the timeline graphic with all of the new sagas? [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Soft Exile naming issue ==<br /> <br /> The way this saga is centered around the exile, it could continue indefinitely if Chris keeps his new account protected. It might be good to refocus this to be about Chris freaking out over the blocking bronies instead - he just tweeted that he's done with the blocking drama, so assuming that holds true, then 22 February would be the end of this saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Looks like he's not over it quite yet https://i.imgur.com/QqJdGUl.png [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 07:26, 23 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reinstate the Merge saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris is still mentioning the merge stuff and it seems like the Teen Troon Squad were just Idea Guy wannabes. Plus the Troon squad is no longer influencing him now.<br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:49, 13 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Agreed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I too like this idea. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Classifying some sagas as eras ==<br /> <br /> From a discussion on the Tomgirl Saga talk page, we should reclassify some items on the Saga list as eras instead. An era could be defined as a set of events which could go on indefinitely, as opposed to a saga which is a story that eventually wraps up or fizzles out, and be filed under the same column as the Exile sections. Transgender (renaming Tomgirl), Financhu Crisis, Business, Dimensional Merge, and Soft Exile could classify as that. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm sure you have thought long and hard about this, but the exiles are already confusing to read after getting through the non-linear list of sagas. Further confusion comes from &quot;Inter Exile Sagas&quot; which are like Star Wars spinoff movies. I don't get it. The timeline graphic is long, and there is overall a lot to wade through. It would be nice to know all of what has happened and is happening at a glance. As for the word &quot;era&quot;, it's accurate but less exciting than &quot;saga&quot;. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Section: Pre-Christory ==<br /> <br /> I was just thinking recently, shouldn't we have a section on Pre-Christory? I'd personally define it as the period before Chris became noticed by Encyclopedia Dramatica. Basically, it would be the period where Chris was still a goofball, but wasn't nearly as infamous. In that same section, I was thinking we should add a sub-section for his high school years, as that somewhat shaped who he is today, and it was a significant era in his life. It would also include the PVCC, Megan, and Adam Sagas.[[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 21:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I don't think the Jacob Saga is over ==<br /> <br /> With Chris appointing him as the overseer of his Patreon, the Twitter dialogue about wanting to share a kiss, and Jacob planning an alleged Halloween visit suggests that their interactions are far from over. It does seem that the rift from September 28 to now just seems like a lull, and most Sagas had lulls and I know of many that were prematurely given an end date during said lulls. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 02:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Categories for Sagas. ==<br /> <br /> For the past decade, sagas were put into two groups, ones for sweethearts, others for trolls. Considering that the Love Quest is now over, I think we might need a category for Chris' finances or one for his enablers. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> : Sagas describe the content we get from Chris, and the Financhu Crisis, if looming in the background for quite a while, has certainly not been a running theme driving Chris's antics since 2017 or so. Begging is too related to unrelated, incidental expenses and satisfied by enablers too quickly for Chris to sustain output within a theme. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 23:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Enablers saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should [[Enablers]] / [[Other enablers]] have a saga entry? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Why would we need to have an enablers saga? Doesn't the Dimensional Merge Saga kind of cover that? [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 08:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree with PsychoNerd. Classic Chris had an epidemic of weens, and modern Chris has one of enablers. Neither wave of mimics deserves its own saga. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 08:46, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thetan ==<br /> <br /> Maybe [[Thetan]] could be added to the Saga list. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:30, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :I disagree. I feel that Thetan's activities were too broad and far apart to qualify. I mean, she's essentially along the lines of [[Kim Wilson]]/[[Emily]], but she doesn't have a dedicated saga. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 18:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not sure about Thetan's activities being too broad - those primarily revolved around posing as ex-classmates in 2013/14. She also did other things like impersonate the firefighter or be involved with the Catherine saga though those don't seem as significant as the classmate stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :::I see what you are going for in the sense of Thetan posing as Chris's former classmates, but I still feel that making an entire saga around her is unnecessary. Maybe something along the lines of a &quot;Manchester High Reunion Saga&quot; would be a better option. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 19:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incest Saga ==<br /> <br /> Continuing [[:Template talk:Incest|from this talk page]], on second thought maybe we should split &quot;Incest&quot; to a sub-Saga called &quot;Incest Leak Drama&quot;? Leak Drama can house the tangential drama surrounding Bella/the Suitress/The WCT. Because those three weren't involved with the Incest itself so to label them as being part of the &quot;incest&quot; saga on their pages is a bit misleading. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I feel like the &quot;Incest Saga&quot; was always primarily about both the Incest itself, and partly the drama that surrounds it. Even though Bella and the Suitress weren't directly connected to him fucking his mom, I still feel they played a very crucial role in the saga in that the former had essentially recorded Chris admitting to the act, and that the latter had leaked the parts of the call, which subsequently led to his arrest. I guess the stuff on WCT is probably better suited for the &quot;Watchmen Saga&quot;? Anything that's not directly related to Chris should not be summarized under there. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, Bella/the Suitress were what caused the Incest saga to end. I guess if we keep the incest saga intact and not split it, the part on the tangential drama could just be deleted - the paragraph about Bella's damage control (which is mentioned on her/the Suitress articles anyway). I agree with the point about The WCT because he was acting as a Watchman when he tried asking Bella for her side of the story and ended up getting manipulated into her sideshow drama which isn't really directly related to Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Third Exile==<br /> <br /> Now that Chris has been transferred out of jail, should we consider renaming &quot;Jail Saga&quot; to the &quot;Third Exile&quot;? Because it doesn't seem we'll get that much out of the hospital. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 02:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is he still technically incarcerated, just at the hospital instead of a jail? He might return to the jail later. Maybe wait until whatever happens in July to clarify his situation. Or rename it now and rename it again in July if needed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 13:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::In that case, I guess we can keep the name. If he goes back to jail, we can just add the date in which he's brought back. I just don't really see a &quot;Nuthouse Saga&quot; anytime soon. If by July he's still in the nuthouse, I say we rename it. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 14:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everfree Northwest ==<br /> <br /> At the moment, all of the stuff regarding Everfree is considered part of the Watchmen saga. I can't help but think we should move it to the Jacob saga, as a majority of the concerns regarding that event was about Jacob showing up there in disguise, and was basically the whole reason Chris asked Bella and the Suitress to accompany him. Any objections to this? [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 18:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds fine. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:36, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Nuthouse Saga Merge ==<br /> <br /> Should we merge the nuthouse saga with the jail saga? Given it was such a short period of time, I feel like it's more accurate to describe it as an event of the jail saga rather than it's own listed period of time, as well as it being covered on the [[Jail Saga]] page already. [[User:SodaSpring|SodaSpring]] ([[User talk:SodaSpring|talk]]) 05:44, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Freedom Saga ==<br /> <br /> The most recent saga in this page is entitled &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; which I named. The previous name for this saga was &quot;CWC Was Here Saga&quot; which I changed as I thought it was too long. There is currently no consensus on what the name of the saga that covers the 8 August 2023-Present should be so I choose &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; as an interregnum name. Does anyone have a better suggestion on what the name of this saga should be?<br /> :Both &quot;Freedom&quot; and &quot;Incognito&quot; are too vague and could be the name of other sagas. There are other sagas which have longer names then &quot;CWC Was Here&quot; such as the &quot;Nathaniel Greene&quot; or &quot;Leonard Bearstein&quot; sagas. The saga icon is a reference to {{w|Kilroy was here}}, which I think fits well. Another saga name could be &quot;Kilroy&quot; saga, but I think that would be too confusing. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 13:45, 27 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Offical Rename ==<br /> <br /> I just held a poll on the Offical CWCki Discord Server for what name to choose for the current saga, these were the results.<br /> <br /> CWC Was Here Saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Incognito saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Freedom Saga - 7 Votes<br /> <br /> I think we have a very obvious favorite here, I propose an offical rename to the '''Freedom Saga'''. Stop changing it back to CWC Was Here Saga [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]], most people dislike the name. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 21:21, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I was unaware most people disliked it other than you and that other editor as when I messed up the previous saga name, everyone kicked off on reddit, which I did not see this time. I apologize. I think Incognito works the best, and it still with the saga icon. I will change it now. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 22:28, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Merge incognito and third exile saga ==<br /> <br /> They really aren't too different. Incognito Saga still has loads of post-jail sightings that apparently aren't a part of that saga, and the page has an 'other sightings' part for no real reason. It should just be Third Exile saga with Chris becoming more active in the latter half of the saga. I think that would be a lot more simple. Also it should go from 27 March to 16 October, he seems to be actually returning now. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 19:04, 16 October 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Christmas Saga? ==<br /> <br /> Over the past few days Chris has been talking about Chistmas on Twitter. He's predictably acting entitled and expecting his &quot;fans&quot; go shower him with gifts, he even hijacked Toys For Tots and made it about himself. Now this isn't new behavior out of Chris but I think this time is distinct because this is the first Christmas he'll have post jail and in his new position as Praetor's captive. I fully expect Chris to get more and more worked up about Christmas as it gets closer and he'll become more and more perfectionist. Those in the [[Unholy Tetrad]] will take notice, they always do, and given his Amazon wishlist tweet I fully expect weens to send a bunch of MLP G5 stuff to him. We don't need a crystal ball to see what happens next, Christmas will fall short of his expectations and he'll bitch about it be it on Youtube or Twitter. This has the potential to give us the first post-jail tard rage video.<br /> <br /> We're in for a lulzy Christmas that I believe will be quite notable.<br /> <br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:01, 14 December 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Publicity Saga ==<br /> <br /> I suggest creating a new saga, starting from January 4 and the Cary, NC sighting, Publicty Saga.<br /> As a result of his past actions, Chris has gotten a lot of bad publicity, both because of his own actions, and a group of weens and enablers he has ecompassed over the many years, especially now, after the Second Coming. Chris is on the blacklist of many cons, was kicked out of Aniamte! Raleigh, and now seeks shelter in unlikely places, such as the Keffals livestream.<br /> Flutter also seems to have left the scene as of January 13, as Chris was spotted alone near the airport that day.<br /> So far, the current events are:<br /> <br /> - January 4 -<br /> sighting in Cary, NC, which made weens aware of the event<br /> <br /> - January 5-6 - <br /> Animate! Raleigh, Chris was not allowed on the second day due to reports to the staff<br /> <br /> - January 7 -<br /> Chris claims that he has had a good weekend, doesn't acknowledge the events at the con<br /> <br /> - January 13 - <br /> Lone sighting at a gas station (probably WaWa) in Henrico County, near the Richmond International Airport, probably returning after dropping off Flutter<br /> <br /> A textwall ranting about CosmicKeyframe blocking him, start of bigger ween interactions over the next few following days<br /> <br /> - January 14 - <br /> Announcement of the Keffals livestream with him<br /> <br /> - January 15 - <br /> New video ranting about G5, con ban, blocking on Twitter ect<br /> <br /> A bit of a Q&amp;A on Twitter with weens<br /> <br /> Keffals has a livestream in which, among other things, she states that the conversation with Chris will be pre recorded and heavily edited<br /> [[User:XelaBlueThunder|XelaBlueThunder]] ([[User talk:XelaBlueThunder|talk]]) 06:33, 16 January 2024 (EST)<br /> <br /> :I see the potential, sounds good. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 09:21, 16 January 2024 (EST)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Weens&diff=317802 2023-12-20T05:33:00Z

<p>Homsar: /* Examples of weening */</p> <hr /> <div>{{quote|Are you 6-years-old or somethin'?|[[Bob Chandler]] outsmarting [[BlueSpike|a ween]] attempting to [[prank call]] Chris.}}<br /> {{quote|Don’t worry about those weens; you know you are safe around me and [[Polyamorous marriage|my Loves]]. 😊⚡️💙⚡️|Chris, attempting to persuade a fan weens won't hassle them at [[BronyCon]]&lt;ref&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20200226105210/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1020049863961120768&lt;/ref&gt;.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg|thumb|Encouraging other people to commit serious crimes is classic weenery.]]<br /> <br /> '''Weening''' or '''failtrolling''' is the act of attempting to troll someone, but ultimately failing at it the whole way through, and not receiving any significant results, typically due to inexperience with lolcow culture. The people that do this are often referred to as '''Weens''' (not to be confused with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ween the alternative rock band]). A corruption of the phrase &quot;epic win&quot;, weens are wannabe [[trolls]] who attempt to recreate the antics of prominent trolls, without being aware that there was much [[Chris and manipulation|manipulation]] behind the scenes to goad Chris into performing for the trolls, and therefore just embarrass themselves.&lt;ref group = &quot;note&quot;&gt;In many cases, the modern, albiet much more controversial, incarnations of prominent trolls have figured this out.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Think we're exaggerating? Maybe some videos will help get the point across.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{#ev:youtube|O4mkAw9Be-k}}<br /> {{#ev:archiveorg|youtube-4yUUi2Qco5Q}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Examples of weening==<br /> [[Image:epicweentrolling1.jpg|thumb|THIS IS WHAT WEENS ACTUALLY BELIEVE.]]<br /> [[File:Paying to ween.png|thumb|A ween pays Chris money on livestream in order to post shit he doesn't even read.]]<br /> [[File:ChangeorgGOPony2.jpg|thumb|A ween-made Change.org petition put in Chris's name.]]<br /> [[File:MeanKeanWeenSecondComing.png|thumb|As foreseen, an [[Post-jail sightings (2023)|unclean, less keen ween]] seen bein' like the mean Peen. Obscene, hygiene like a latrine... and most likely a tween.]]<br /> [[Image:Furniggersmustdie.jpg|thumb|Typical ween art.]]<br /> <br /> * Elaborate trolling plans that end up failing.<br /> * Falsely [[White knight|white-knighting]] Chris to befriend him and get whatever you want out of him. The [[CWCProtectSquad]] is a notorious example of this.<br /> * Prank-calling Chris. Double dumbass points if it's just to yell &quot;[[For Julie's Eyes Only|JULAAAY, JULAAAAAAY!]]&quot;, &quot;[[Ian Brandon Anderson|IAN BRANDON ANDERSON]]/[[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|SOMETHING]]!&quot;, or other ancient memes.<br /> * Prank takeaway deliveries under Chris' name and address. Not only is this just ''unfunny'' for anyone involved (on top of wasting both money and food), but numerous restaurants in Chris's area (namely Papa John's) have blacklisted his address precisely to prevent this.<br /> * A-Logging. While not all weens are A-Logs and vice versa, the two often overlap. [[A-Logging|A-Log]] himself was as much of a ween as your average A-Log in numerous ways.<br /> * Enabling Chris's fantastical beliefs. Chris's mind is already fucked up on its own merits, and people such as the Idea Guys have done more than enough in terms of mental damage on him. Once again, please note that although not all weens are enablers and vice versa, they tend to overlap. <br /> * Making fake [[Facebook]] and [[Twitter]] profiles of people Chris follows. <br /> * Spamming Chris's Facebook pages with random pictures of his old triggers to try and get a rise out of him; such as of [[pickles]], [[homos]] or [[Sonic]]'s redesign in ''[[Sonic Boom]]''.<br /> * Scathing e-mails, letters, or social media messages.<br /> * Butting into conversations Chris is having with other people online, especially if he isn't doing anything particularly wrong at the moment (which is almost 99% of the time). This was sadly way too common with the [[DoopieDoOver]] saga.<br /> * Attempting to contact people who once interacted with Chris but have since cut off all ties with him ([[Megan]], [[Cole]], [[the Wallflower]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], [[Adam Stackhouse]], [[Michael Snyder]], etc.) and drag them back into the spotlight against their wishes.<br /> * Terrible fanfiction that &quot;wittily&quot; deconstructs ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and [[CWCville|where it takes place]] as a saccharine dystopia. Sorry folks, but ''[[Asperchu]]'', ''[[A Girl Who Brought Down the World]]'', ''[[Sonichu the Animated Series|Sonichu: The Animated Series]]'' and ''CWCollateral'' not only '''all''' already did this, but have also milked the concept for everything it's worth; it's time to move on.<br /> * Terrible fanfiction and fanart that focuses solely on murdering Sonichu characters, as seen in the picture below-right. Double dumbass points if focusing predominantly on the slaughter of [[Sonees and Roseys]].<br /> * Mass reporting in an attempt to get his social media accounts shut down.<br /> * Terrible fanart of ''Sonichu'' that attempts to be wittily macabre by making it even more [[Chris and art|grotesque]], [[Episode 21|gory]], or [[Episode 17|perverse]] than it already was.<br /> * Spouting tired old Chris memes in places where Christorians lurk, or even in places where most of the members don't even know about Chris. Either way, it's very annoying.<br /> * Making frivolous or exaggerated claims of Chris's misconduct in feedback on sites like [[eBay]] or [[YouTube]].<br /> * Spoiling Chris's legitimate attempts at doing [[Chris and art|commissions]] and participating in [[Chris and contests|contests]] or e-commerce.<br /> * [[April 2019 videos#Bonus! LACK OF Glitter Bombing. 🔥Epic Burn!🔥|Sending Chris a glitter bomb.]]<br /> * Sending letters for [[PewDiePie]] to Chris's address.<br /> * Making [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y87AvTrK9Dc terrible rap songs] about Chris.<br /> * [[TF2 Analysis|Harassing bronies whose content Chris enjoys into blocking him on Twitter.]]<br /> * [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/e3vdae/the_result_of_what_happened_when_i_tried_to/| Re-creating his Wikipedia page as a social experiment.] <br /> * Spamming his tweets with &quot;Where's the comics?&quot;. He's not going to respond, so don't even try.<br /> * It may be just plain sad to say, but even telling Chris to &quot;get a job&quot; has become ween lingo.<br /> * Hacking into Chris's YouTube account to upload a video of someone screaming &quot;JULAAAAY&quot;!<br /> * Sending letters to Chris to persuade him into saying or doing things while [[Messiah complex|under the belief he is Jesus]].<br /> * [[Jail Letter - 21 October 2021|Translating Ian Brandon Anderson into a writing system Chris doesn’t understand and telling him it’s a blessing in another language.]]<br /> * [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/49854/post-11683809 Writing a fake letter, claiming it to be sent by Chris in an undisclosed location, and directing it towards another lolcow.]<br /> * [https://reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/10k8nj3/chris_chan_porn_video_gofundme/ Funding a pornographic film about Chris.]<br /> * [[:File:9zkfdgibmrxa1.png|Leaving one-star reviews on places Chris has visited because Chris visited them.]]<br /> * [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/15oqgk7/christine_can_still_become_rich_and_live_a/ Suggesting Chris should start an OnlyFans.]<br /> * Making fake obituaries stating [[Barb]] or any other Christorical figures have died.<br /> * [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz/On_the_road_Part_II|Chasing down Chris and trying to shove a camera in his face after seeing him in public.]]<br /> * Bringing up [[Affair with Mother|Chris' affair with Barb]] during his livestreams, especially when it has nothing to do with the topic(s). This has already dated to the level of the aforementioned ancient memes.<br /> * [[December 2023 social media posts#12_Previous_Lives|Telling Chris about his past lives.]]<br /> * Worst of all, [[Chris and the law|breaking the law]] and [[A-Logging#There.27s_no_legal_defense_over_attacking_Chris_for_real|needlessly risking a life-altering criminal record]] in pursuit of lulz. This includes, but is certainly not limited to; vandalizing or trespassing on Chris's [[14 Branchland Court|property]] (which includes egging his house), illegally recording telephone conversations, stalking and harassment of him, his mother and the rest of their extended family, stealing from them, [[Idea Guys|extortion]], or [[Death threats|threatening them]] with violence or even outright murder. This also applies to aiding and/or encouraging other weens or Chris himself to do so. '''We ''really'' shouldn't have to say it at this point, but for fuck's sake, ''DON'T DO ANY OF THIS.'''''<br /> <br /> == What weening is NOT ==<br /> As annoying and unhelpful as weening is, the term has ended up being severely misused by much of the CWCsphere, to the point where some consider it to be ''any'' form of interest or interaction at any point with Chris or the world relating to him and his misadventures. As such, it's important to keep in mind what actions are not considered the correct definition of the term:<br /> * Casual observation and discussion of Chris and his circumstances, in places (such as [[CWCki|this very wiki]], or [[Kiwi Farms]]) where they are permitted and/or actually relevant to the topic at hand.<br /> * Any trolling plan that actually succeeds to some extent; be it good or bad for Chris, original or cringey, et cetera.&lt;ref group=&quot;note&quot;&gt;About 99.9% of the time, this doesn't happen, so don't bother trying.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> * Asking [[FAQ|basic, repetitive Chris questions]] as a newbie. Regardless of if it's to do with recent events or those from the Classic Era and such, even the most devoted Christorians had to start somewhere. <br /> * Coming up with speculative Christory based on past and ongoing events.<br /> * Making fan media (art, fanfiction, animations, cosplay, etc.) of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' series]], so long as it's not excessively perverse, grotesque or intentionally poorly made, and you don't go out of your way to show it to Chris.<br /> * Helping to document and provide information on developments and occurrences in Chris's life as they come. The same goes for any corrections and confirmations (with appropriate evidence) of ambiguous and/or unconfirmed information.<br /> * Visiting public locations where Chris is well-known to have been or is otherwise associated with; such as the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], [[The GAMe PLACe|Gearharts]], [[The End Games]] or [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]. Of course, this is so long as you don't try to failtroll or otherwise harass anyone for info on Chris. If you do visit these places, consider doing some good out of it as well by supporting them and the local community through donating to (if applicable) and/or purchasing from them. <br /> * Visiting [[14 Branchland Court]], so long as it doesn't involve illegally trespassing or trying to harass Barb or anyone who resides there.<br /> <br /> ==Arguments against trolling attempts==<br /> [[Image:REALChrisChanAndFriends.jpg|thumb|[[The Miscreants]], grateful to get away from all of the weens leeching off their hard work.]]<br /> <br /> Now, we know what you're thinking. You're not one of those try-hard [[BlueSpike|13-year old boys]] who still think that screaming &quot;'''JULAAAAAY!!!'''&quot; or &quot;'''IAN! BRANNON! SOMETHING!!!'''&quot; at Chris, spamming his Twitter with pickles, making and sending him badly-made parody comics, or trying to re-hash the [[Liquid Chris|Liquid Chris Saga]] is the height of wit. You've come up with a great plan to really get under Chris's skin, bring back the good old days and all that shit. However, &lt;del&gt;while you ''may'' in fact be that guy,&lt;/del&gt; 99.9% of the time, you should just shitcan your trolling plans and move on with your life.<br /> <br /> Why, you ask?<br /> <br /> ===The Chris of today is nothing like his former self===<br /> <br /> Chris has gone a long way since his internet debut on the Something Awful Forums. He has gone from a simple-minded man with child-like tendencies that made a bunch of [[Sonichu (comic)|comics which are so bad they're fascinating]], to a jaded, chronically-depressed and mentally-disturbed hippie that’s formed a small doomsday cult around said comics. <br /> <br /> It is important to note that Chris, although still very gullible and severely detached from reality, is (debatably) still a thinking person. Whatever gets him riled up nowadays ultimately depends on the time and situation. Therefore, a lot of [[Sonic Boom|the]] [[Pickle|commonly]] [[Homos|associated]] [[Asperger syndrome|triggers]] he may or may not have had some time ago will not necessarily transfer over to the present day.<br /> <br /> It should also be noted that, because of this change in perspective, trolling hits differently in this day and age than it did before Chris lost his father; which is incidentally the point where most of Chris's most famous trolls opted to leave him alone. The general culture around Chris-Chan himself has changed significantly as well; while past trolls like [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Liquid Chris]] were praised for a time, and are still fondly remembered and respected by those who don't see them as being as bad as Chris, the days of trolling Chris as the heteronormative, egoistical manchild have faded to trolling Chris as a mentally-ill, self-destructive, broken shell of a human being. The only people to really succeed in gaining infamy comparable to the trolls of the Classic Era – such as the [[Idea Guys]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] – are subsequently derided as the perverted, exploitative abusers that they are, rather than treated as internet legends.<br /> <br /> The irony in all of this is that most trolling attempts no longer phase Chris at all. And those that do somehow succeed are only viewed as [[Enablers|further support for his cult]]. Therefore, you should never expect to be [[The Miscreants|one of the cool kids]] just by failtrolling Chris. Times have changed, so it’s best to move onto better targets. This leads us into the next point.<br /> <br /> ===There are (and always will be) much better targets than Chris===<br /> If you're willing to put that much effort into trolling Chris, why not make yourself useful and apply that same effort to going after better victims? As much as the CWCki analyses and discusses in detail [[Tomgirl|his]] [[April 16 Fetish Vids|numerous]] [[Semen|odd]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|behaviors]] and [[Chris and his Ego|per]][[Chris and reality|son]][[Chris and hypocrisy|ali]][[Chris and Remorse|ty]] [[Chris and anger|fla]][[Chris and race|ws]], Chris doesn't even come ''close'' to the bottom of the barrel of internet scumbags. [[Beel|Neo-nazis]] and [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|other hate groups]], [[white knight|social justice warriors]], [[Blanca Weiss|abusive lovers]] and [[Barb|parents]], [[Joshua Martinez|scam artists]], [[pedofork|pedophiles]] and [[Zapina Rosechu|ephebophiles]], [[Allison Amber|corrupt]] [[Pmurt|politicians]] and [[4-cent_garbage.com|corporations]], [[Angelica Rosechu|religious zealots]], [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|zoophiles]] [[Clover and Snoopy|and other animal abusers]], [[Collosal Chris-Chan|hackers, script kiddies and malware writers/distributers]], [[JuggaloShoutOut|gang]] [[(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise|members]], [[Twin Falling Towers|terrorists and their online recruiters]], [[A-Logging|A-Logs]], [[Enablers]], and many other assorted shitbirds are much, ''much'' more deserving of concentrated trolling than Chris will ever be.<br /> <br /> Even if you don't give a shit who the trollbait is as long as you get Laughs Under Lucricities, the Chris of today just isn't as amenable to trolling as he used to be; as discussed beforehand. The amount of effort you would need to put into navigating around his paranoia and autistic sensibilities would be staggering to say the least. And even if you do manage to bypass these obstacles, ''what is there left to do to him?'' Anything amusing about him has already been exhausted, except the shit he does on his own initiative, also discussed further below. All that is left of him at this point is a withered husk of a lolcow; as much as you may try to milk it, you'll be hard-pressed not to get only cobwebs, dust and shrivelled dead insects in return. With that in mind, you may as well just spend your time on another lolcow who hasn't been inured to years of deceit and humiliation.<br /> <br /> For most aspiring trolls, the only reason to pick Chris over any other Internet jackass is because he's relatively well-known even today, and you have a ready-made audience available to appreciate your efforts. But that's just you being lazy, not some trolling mastermind.<br /> <br /> ===The Chris of today is not (quite) as gullible as he used to be===<br /> Granted, almost no one on Earth is as [[naïve]] as Chris was in 2007. However, since then Chris has gradually learned that when he's contacted by people claiming to be [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], [[Prank calls#Batman Call|Batman]], [[Vanessa Hudgens]], someone from his past, or [[Savannah Chandler|even his own relatives]], chances are he's just being trolled. In fact, the naivety of the younger Chris has been swapped for an extreme distrust of anyone who tries to contact him, to the extent where he's even turned down legitimate attempts to get in touch by people he actually knew at [[high school]] or [[college]].<br /> <br /> This hasn't been helped at all by weens; according to [[Seinor prom|seinor]] trolls, Chris was once contacted by ''10 people'' claiming to be Megan at the same time, all of them claiming to be the [[TRUE and HONEST]] Megan and telling him not to believe the others.<br /> <br /> Chris also vets those who try to bait him with fake social media accounts of people he follows. Weens tried this during the Doopie saga, only for Chris to embarrass them by thoroughly debunking their claims, complete with evidence.&lt;ref&gt;[[Misc texts#Fake Doopie profile]]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[[August 2017 tweets#Outsmarted a ween, with help of Kiwi Farms]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> As of today, Chris simply doesn’t care about whatever hackneyed, inane scheme you’ve come up with for him. Even the most persistent attempts at bribery don’t seem to affect him as much as they used to.<br /> <br /> ===Your idea is probably not original===<br /> [[File:NotLiquidComic.jpg|thumb|left|A tryhard trying to rehash Liquid Chris's success... somehow drawn even ''worse'' than ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' itself.]]<br /> Whatever your scheme is, it's probably been done before, and most likely better. It's pretty much impossible to top getting Chris to believe that the [[Miyamoto emails|President of Nintendo]] was interested in his work, or that there was a DANG, DIRTY IMPOSTER whom everyone else thought was the ''real'' Chris and stealing his richly deserved fame,&lt;ref group=note&gt;This idea worked once in the right circumstances, there's no need to repeat it now, where Chris believes he's a goddess and a reincarnate of Jesus.&lt;/ref&gt; or convincing Chris to [[The MovingFoward videos|destroy his own life upgrade on-camera]] in an attempt to claim [[Trollin Train|a $9,001 bounty that never actually existed]], or even simply pulling some strings to [[Bob Walks In|have Chris's father walk in on him masturbating]]. By and large, most modern trolling plans tend to be some incredibly minor variation on something that's already been done; like for example, ''&quot;what if we got his [[Amnyfest Ring|high school ring]]?&quot;'' or ''&quot;what if we got him to see another parody of his comic?&quot;''. In short, you're wasting your time trying to rehash older trolling events, because we've all seen it before. More importantly, so has Chris; so from experience, he very likely knows where you're going with it, too.<br /> <br /> ===Weenery discourages Chris from producing content===<br /> Chris is at his most productive when he believes he has lots of fans and everyone, barring a few trolls here and there, loves him. Most agree that weenery is detrimental to this strange, symbiotic relationship, and it is considered to be one of the predominant causes of the slump in content between 2011 and 2014. In that time, Chris entered a hiatus as a result of a combination of mourning for his [[Bob|then-recently deceased father]], and a constant stream of weenery over the years that made him think of himself as a victim who wouldn't be able to do anything without being harassed. As a result, he became far more private, meaning barely any content for us. Only four years after 2011 did he re-emerge from this hiatus.<br /> <br /> It is also worth mentioning that Chris produces much better content when left to his own devices. Since his semi-retreat from the public eye after his father's death and before he was jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], Chris has been [[28 October 2011|prosecuted]] [[26 December 2014|twice]], concocted [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|outlandish conspiracy theories]] centered on [[Megan Schroeder|someone he hasn't spoken to for years]], [[10 January 2014|accidentally set fire to his house]], eventually continued working on the previously-unfinished [[Sonichu #11]] again, and [[Un-clit 2.0|sliced his own taint open with a knife]] as part of a hair-brained attempt to grow his own [[china]]; all of this without any impetus from the trolls. Likewise, let's not forget the entire [[Mary Lee Walsh]] saga (along with at least [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer|two]] [[University of Virginia#UVA student on Chris|different]] independent blogs of Chris' bizarre mannerisms and behaviors) happened before he even rose to fame. Don't try and rush the master of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favorite game]].<br /> <br /> ===If you fail hard enough, you will become a target for trolls yourself===<br /> [[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|During the [[Guard Dogs|Guard Dog]] [[saga]], [[Null]] saw to it that weens would face particularly aggressive responses if they attempted to lure Chris through e-mail.]]<br /> Anthony &quot;A-Log&quot; LoGatto is ''the'' textbook example of trolling backfiring on the would-be troll, and it's important to remember that he would never have attracted the attention of the internet if he had simply toned down the vitriol enough to make it less obvious that he was absolutely obsessed with Chris. It was thereafter a fairly obvious leap in intuition to assume that someone with that level of hysteria and monomania over someone they had never even met would have had some skeletons in their own closet; and as it turns out, A-Log had more than a few. These included terrible homemade yiff fanfiction featuring a [[pickle|tellingly moderately-endowed]] fox OC, a huge cache of disturbing cartoon Rule 34 (a noticeable portion of which included [[Pedofork|underage characters]]), a laughably-poor college radio show from which he almost got fired after being caught watching pornography in the studio, and a video where A-Log does an excruciatingly unfunny stand-up &quot;comedy&quot; bit, revolving almost entirely around attacking Chris and what the radio was playing at the time; all before a crowd who, judging by their reaction, had never even heard of Chris.<br /> <br /> Another more recent example of the same thing happening to a ween is the case of [[Michael Hirtes]]. After a myriad of sockpuppet accounts, spam messages to Chris and anyone he conversed with numbering in the thousands (mostly consisting of outdated memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks) and enough angry rants for him to ''also'' be described as being truly obsessed with Chris, it naturally led to some digging. Sure enough, Hirtes was revealed to be an unemployed furry who is even older at 53 years old, even less mature and more prone to [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] than Chris, and having a number of highly-embarrassing things to his name; including criminal convictions and a newspaper article of him in a fursuit discussing yiffing. Consequently, he became a huge laughing stock overnight; not only turning into a lolcow himself, but it even got to be the point where [[Michael Hirtes#Chris's view on Hirtes|Chris himself dismissed Hirtes, and by extension everything he'd done, as an irrelevance]].<br /> <br /> By the same token, obsessive and excessive weenery is dangerously likely to get you noticed by other trolls; who will, in turn, start trolling you because of that and anything else they notice about you, hoisting you on your own petard. In other words, it's akin to plugging in a huge neon sign pointing the trolls straight to your collection of ''[[Dragon Ball Z|Goku]] x Anne Frank'' slash fiction and boy band shrines.<br /> <br /> Even successful trolls can become targets: after several months manipulating Chris, the [[Idea Guys]] had their real-world identities exposed in the first half of [[2018]]. Between [[October 2017]] and [[March 2020]], [[Kiwi Farms]] officially encouraged users to &lt;abbr title=&quot;Publish identifying information, such as home addresses.&quot;&gt;dox&lt;/abbr&gt; weens as a deterrent.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/lunatics-who-attack-a-mentally-handicapped-person.35124/ Lunatics who attack a mentally handicapped person: Your name here]&lt;/ref&gt; Several would-be weens have been foiled this way, and the effects have possibly spread into their real lives. Chris himself has also carelessly exposed those who try to interact with him while remaining anonymous.&lt;ref&gt;[[Other enablers#Sarah and Steven]]&lt;/ref&gt; Remember, there is an [[Special:ActiveUsers|energetic community]] devoted to recording every facet of Chris's life and interactions. '''You ''will'' be noticed''', and as covered in more detail below; the attention you'll end up receiving will likely be the undesirable kind, even if you ''do'' somehow catch Chris's attention.<br /> <br /> Due to her edgy behavior, [[A-logging]] directed towards Chris, her attempts at being a Chris troll, attempts at weening Chris, and the bullying of other students at her university; [[Bella]] has been deemed one of Chris's most corrupt trolls due to unproven claims regarding her interactions with Chris being propagated, and is widely disgraced by the greater CWCsphere as a result.<br /> <br /> ===Even if you do succeed, you will likely regret it later===<br /> {{quote|Chris-Chan is — he’s an enigma which to so many people — [[CWCki:Frequently Asked Questions#Trolling|they thought he was a troll]]. Because they’re like, “there’s no way this motherfucker is real”, because he’s like, the saddest human being ever. And it’s SAD because it’s like… I spent four years of my life fucking with him, and people are like, “bring it back!”. And I’m like, “NO! LET IT DIE”. It’s like, depressing — it’s not the golden age — it’s the depressing age.|Spazkid, on the unwanted attention he receives from weens to this day.}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|There's been tons of things in my life I've regretted and hated doing later on, [[Saga#Julie Saga .28February - March 2009.29|all of the stuff from 10 years ago]] was one of them. I've moved past everything that happened those many years ago and obviously I'm a different person now. It wasn't funny and was a very a-log thing to do. Nothing much else I can say.|[[BlueSpike]], reflecting on his time since the Julie Saga.}}<br /> <br /> All too often, trolls that do somehow manage to succeed in extracting lulz from Chris end up getting more than they bargained for. For example, Spazkid stopped making ''[[Sonichu the Animated Series]]'' when he began to pity Chris and realized he wasn't worth trolling (on top of a lot of unseen drama involved with the series' writers and voice actors), but still regularly finds himself, as seen above, hounded by obsessive weens and A-Logs to keep making it against his wishes. Liquid Chris may have to spend a long time fending off accusations from people outside of the Chris-Chan bubble of tormenting an [[slow-in-the-minds|emotionally vulnerable autistic man]] for his own amusement. BlueSpike will turn 30 someday, and even then will still be thought of as the crazed, sadistic pervert who, [[Pedofork|at the age of 13]], willingly listened to a 27-year-old [[CWC Cums for a Cat|masturbate repeatedly for]] [[Bob Walks In|hours on end]] and [[Julie reveals herself|forced him to shove a broken clay medallion up his ass]]; even after [[BlueSpike#Today|he has since considerably matured and openly shown remorse for his previous actions]]. The Idea Guys may have to deal with many long-term legal troubles one day for manipulating a mentally-handicapped man into abusing himself and extorting frivolities and large sums of money from him; all for a stupid, cruel joke that amused no one but themselves. <br /> <br /> To add to the irony, people who didn't intentionally upset Chris are still getting unwanted attention from weens. Do you think [[Adam Stackhouse]] enjoys being inundated by various unwanted ''&quot;you prevented Chris from raping Megan, congrats!&quot;'' messages in his e-mail inbox, especially since [[Adam Stackhouse#Adam revisited|he openly made peace with Chris in 2018?]] Or that [[Mary Lee Walsh]] appreciates seeing herself as a nubile anime blonde who exists solely to torment a [[virgin with rage]] every time she or her students uses Google? Or that [[Michael Snyder]] likes being constantly reminded by weens of [[28 October 2011|being harassed and hit by a car]] through misguided attempts to praise him, or [[The_GAMe_PLACe#Today|being tormented about said events, almost ''a decade'' later, on the guestbook of his own father's funeral?]] In all of these cases, the answer is a big, fat '''NO'''.<br /> <br /> ===There is absolutely nothing left to gain from Chris or the community surrounding him===<br /> What is probably the most simple grounds of all to not ween is also the most important for a number of reasons. <br /> <br /> As seen above, not only does Chris no longer have amusing reactions to anything that comes his way as in the past, he is no longer in any position ([[Chris and reality|or ''condition'', for that matter]]) to produce more art, comics or commissions for people to look forward to, and can no longer be considered someone to (even ironically) root for, ever since his fall from being a comedic and sometimes morally-questionable but mostly harmless buffoon into a truly indefensible and disturbing individual. Apart from what he sporadically writes or rambles about in his [[Prison communications|letters and phone calls from jail]], the wellspring of anything truly fascinating, endearing or amusing about him has long since run dry. Ever since Chris has been known to have had [[Affair with Mother|sexual relations with his own mother]], Weening and A-Logging are considered to be especially pathetic; [[A-Logging#The_legal_system_will_deal_with_Chris|the law itself will now officially deal with Chris properly]] (as opposed to a rag-tag lynch mob of idiots on the internet; who now, by-and-large, have no access to him anymore regardless), and [[A-Logging#Being better than Chris is not and never has been an achievement|the need to prove oneself as superior]] to or [[Enablers#Getting_sucked_into_drama_surrounding_Chris|otherwise be associated with]] an obese, unrepentant sex offender with [[Messiah complex|a rapidly-flatlining grip on sanity]] reeks of desperation for attention now more than it ever has. <br /> <br /> All of this isn't even getting to the likely results of trying to ween or otherwise going out of your way to coax reactions or information from Chris nowadays. Not only do you have [[Kiwi Farms|the active Chris-Chan community]] who are more than willing to come after most wannabes who attempt to do so, but also how the consequences will, in such circumstances, very likely end up spreading into your actual life; as has been seen on numerous occasions. Even without going in with the intention to troll, fan documentaries and information sources (such as [[CWCki|this very wiki]]) already extensively cover Chris and his life, and when new events and such occur, it's more than likely already covered by them without you needing to dig too deeply. <br /> <br /> That said, if you do have worthwhile information, corrections and confirmations of such to provide, then by all means do so. The same applies for items such as ''Sonichu''-related fan media, [[Enablers#Joining_the_creative_community_surrounding_Chris|on the condition that they're kept well away from the man himself]]. But you should always keep in mind that however you choose to go about it, with so much to potentially lose and so little to gain — if anything at all — '''obsessing over and trying to get directly involved with Chris nowadays just isn't worth it.'''<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[A-Logging]]<br /> *[[Enablers]] <br /> *[[Michael Hirtes]], an infamous ween.<br /> *[[Isabella Loretta Janke]], the prime example of how attempted trolling can backfire.<br /> <br /> {{Notes}}<br /> {{References}}<br /> {{Articleofthenow}}<br /> {{Unholy}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Trolling]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ethan_Ralph&diff=317646 2023-12-15T19:12:02Z

<p>Homsar: /* Delete */</p> <hr /> <div>== Needs rewrite ==<br /> <br /> This article needs a rewrite. For one thing it needs more sources. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 02:30, 21 January 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Delete ==<br /> <br /> Rereading this again, this article should probably just be deleted. It gives no insight to Chris, and Ralph's relevance is pretty much just that he filmed the incest arrest. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:46, 15 December 2023 (EST)<br /> :Seconded, this should just be a blurb on the arrest video page. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:12, 15 December 2023 (EST)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Saga&diff=317608 2023-12-14T19:16:20Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Honest}}<br /> {{Protip|Contacting Chris does not make a saga, even if it gets a response. Getting your own saga in Christory is also ''NOT'' an achievement. [[Megan|Just]] [[BlueSpike|ask]] [[Doopie|these]] [[Idea Guys|people]] [[Praetor|if you don't believe us]].<br /> <br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In addition, it is important to note that sagas by definition occur for a number of reasons, regardless of troll involvement. These sagas are about Chris, not you.}}<br /> {{Illustrations}}<br /> <br /> {{Quote|I've had online relationships in my past; most of which were good, but all of them ended not so good for me.|Chris makes the understatement of the century&lt;ref&gt;[[Sydney Kirsch]]&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> A &quot;'''saga'''&quot; (from the Old Norse ''sögur'') is a story arc of events on the [[CWChronology]], documenting Chris' actions during a specific span of time. The Christorian use of the term is derived from story arcs in ''[[Dragon Ball]]'', a series that Chris likes, based on the story arcs usually being named after an arc villain. (This was true for Christory at first, but Sagas have since encompassed various sweethearts and and specific events over specifically revolving around specific antagonists to Chris-Chan.)<br /> <br /> ==Meta-Sagas==<br /> <br /> For nearly two decades, Chris has been going through one tumult or another. However, throughout each of these, Chris has had a [[autism|special interest]] or obsession that would follow him through all of them, and would define him as a person. Indeed, this central focus of his life would serve to unite his sagas with a common theme: a near-certain way to get a reaction out of Chris would be by winning his trust through feeding his special interest, and then exploiting it for Laughs Under Lucricities. For most of Christory, this would be pretending to be a [[boyfriend-free girl]], but more recently this has transmuted into [[Chris and his Ego|feigning to worship]] him. As they are threads running through and linking together, and are the broadest strokes of Chris's life, they can be considered ''meta-sagas'', beyond and more fundamental than the fleeting fancies of any individual [[troll]]. <br /> <br /> ===Love Quest (ca. 2003 - March 2018; January 2021-Present)===<br /> [[File:LoveQuestSaga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> ''The'' quintessential saga, and the one that introduced this word to the Christorian's lexicon. Sometime early in his career at PVCC, Chris decided that he needed a girlfriend to call his own. Beset on all sides by the [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]] (read: women were repulsed by his unusual mannerisms), the [[virgin with rage]] resorted to increasingly desperate and bizarre methods of obtaining one, which have seen him [[List of places that have banned Chris|expelled and banned]] from multiple reputable establishments. After his discovery by the Internet, Chris would flutter from one professed girlfriend to another, thinking that each might be the [[CWCisms#H|heartsweet]] that might end this search once and for all. Alas, it was not meant to be, and Chris often found himself betrayed and humiliated in comical and grotesque ways. The Love Quest survived several upheavals in Chris's life, including his father's death, the loss of his virginity, the house fire and his gender transition (see below), yet despite Christorians' predictions, and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Pickle Man]]'s injunctions, finally concluded in [[March 2018]], when a mentally eroded Chris declared himself in a [[polyamorous marriage]] with his [[Chris and reality|fictional characters]].<br /> <br /> The Love Quest would seem to come back in full force by the beginning of 2021, and much more intense than before, with Chris expressing sexual frustrations to Watchmen members, wishing to get a physical girlfriend. He would crush on multiple women of interest all at once and have wet dreams that involved cartoon characters. It would get intense to the point of releasing this sexual frustration on his own mother, leading to dire consequences. <br /> {{Love Quest}}<br /> <br /> ===Transgender Saga (''30 March 2011 - Present'')===<br /> [[File:TransgenderSaga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> In [[2011]], Chris began the process of gender transitioning. In March of that year, he starting cross-dressing and later came out as a &quot;tomgirl&quot;. Despite resistance from his parents, Chris continued down the transgender path, exploring his gender identity. In 2014, he briefly identified as a lesbian male, and a year later, settled on identifying as a lesbian transwoman.<br /> {{Sexuality}}<br /> <br /> ===Business Saga (''3 July 2014 - 8 June 2016''; ''June 2017 - July 2021'')===<br /> <br /> Although this Saga began during the Sonic Boom Saga, it ultimately outlasted it. Chris realized during this Saga that he could make significantly large amounts of [[money]] by selling his own products, including Medallions and customized [[Sonichu Amiibo]]s, first on [[eBay]], then on [[Etsy]]. This Saga is notable for featuring the return of frequent video uploads by Chris. Inevitably, Chris's laziness got the better of him (again) and he failed to ship out multiple orders. As his interest in making money dwindled, the [[Financhu Crisis]] began to strain the Chandler finances. Chris failed to get his act together, resulting in him getting banned from selling on Etsy on 8 June 2016, halting the Saga. There were a [[Paid Video Requests|few]] [[Skylanders Imaginators Leader Christine W Chandler: random Review N' Stuff|recurrences]] where Chris attempted to profit from his own products again, but these were expectedly fruitless and short-lived. In [[May 2017]], Chris began drawing [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] pages again after a 561-day hiatus, and in June, he resumed monetizing ''Sonichu'' comics, by setting pages as rewards on his [[Patreon]] account and again offering printed books from [[Lulu]].<br /> <br /> Through 2018 and 2019, Chris has grown neglectful of his commercial obligations, failing to produce Sonichu pages and ship items, culminating in his restriction from [[eBay]] on 16 June 2019.<br /> <br /> Chris' Patreon was shut down in [[August 2021]] after he was [[Jail Saga#Arrest|arrested]] for [[Affair with Mother|incest]].<br /> <br /> {{BusinessList}}<br /> ===Financhu Crisis Saga (''12 April 2016 - Present'')===<br /> [[File:FinanchuSaga.png|500px]]<br /> {{main|Financhu Crisis}}<br /> <br /> Coined by the members of the [[Kiwi Farms]], this saga began when Chris released [[Please, Donate|a video]] asking for donations in exchange for gifts. Then, he cut out the gifts, and when his Etsy shop was closed, resorted to straight begging, [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|prostitution]], and [[By random request; I still need money, please|video]] [[Update 20160718|requests]]; all while continuing to buy over $1,000 worth of toys and only selling [[Update 20160718|'''THREE POKÉMON CARDS''']] at this saga's beginning, and putting various worthless junk on eBay for exorbitant prices. Chris was eventually able to sell the [[Sonic Totem|Sonic totem]] for $1500 only to [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 04142017|immediately admit to wasting the profits]] on toys and a [[$400 gold necklace]] to replace one Barb previously pawned; a selfish act that shows the full extent of Chris and Barb's financial incompetency. His begging also goes to the point of [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Who wants to pay our mortgage?!|asking on Facebook]] for someone to pay his mortgage. This also shows Chris's [[ego]], since he [[Announcement 06292016|treats his monetary problems that he caused as a charity]].<br /> <br /> In June 2017, Chris began to take his Patreon more seriously by actually working on the Sonichu comic; as a result, his Patreon earnings skyrocketed to hundreds of dollars per month and mitigated his desire to beg for money. As a result, Chris stopped begging in July. However, he remained deeply in debt and showed no signs of developing greater financial responsibility.<br /> <br /> In late 2017 and early 2018 work on ''Sonichu'' slowed, as did Chris's Patreon donations. Around this time, Chris later claimed he needed to cover an unknown but essential large expenditure which he refuses to discuss in detail. As a result, Chris resumed begging and selling items on eBay with greater intensity than ever, peaking in early May when he made [[WE NEED MONEY FOR MORTGAGE NOW, PLEASE|a trilogy of panicked videos]] revealing that a mortgage payment on [[14 Branchland Court]] was due soon and that the unknown expenditure had left him and Barb unable to cover it. Though Chris was saved by an influx of donations and eBay sales, the Chandlers' financial situation evidently remains more desperate than ever.<br /> <br /> ===Roleplaying Saga (''August 2017 - Present'')===<br /> [[File:Escapist Saga Banner.png|600px]]<br /> <br /> As a maladaptive coping mechanism against the bleakness of his [[reality]], Chris's belief in imaginary friends and magical thinking drastically increased, one example of him dancing with [[Magi-Chan]] at the 2017 [[BronyCon]]. After the [[Idea Guys]], the [[Teen Troon Squad]], [[Jacob Sockness]] and [[other enablers|other successive enablers]] further fueled his fantasies by validating them, Chris retreated even more into his fantasy world. It was once again re-enforced by the [[COVID-19]] pandemic due to the fact that it cancelled all the conventions Chris was planning to attend in [[2020]].<br /> <br /> On 19 September 2021, Chris wrote a letter in jail, where he declares himself as Jesus of Nazareth.<br /> <br /> {{Coping}}<br /> <br /> ===Dimensional Merge (''14 October 2018 - 3 August 2021'')===<br /> [[File:Merge saga.png|500px]]<br /> {{Main|Dimensional Merge}}<br /> <br /> Due to the influence of the Idea Guys and Teen Troon Squad, ideas of a dimensional merge began to manifest within Chris. This came to a head in [[October 2018]], when Chris uploaded a video where he announced that our dimension will soon merge with another. He has revised the deadline for this prophecy several times. This was followed by several months of him droning about it on Twitter, even during his Soft Exile (described below). Various weens, including [[Sarah and Steve]], would circumvent new Twitter restrictions through physical mail or other channels, seeking to encourage him further; in [[April 2019]] things went to a new level when [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|a video]] was posted of a masked man reading a letter supposedly from a time-traveling [[Reginald Chandler]] announcing the merge.<br /> <br /> {{Fantasies}}<br /> <br /> ==Pre-Christory (''[[Birthday|24 February 1982]] - June 2000'')==<br /> <br /> The world at large discovered Christian Weston Chandler on 27 October 2007. Before this time, we have only a scanty record to the details of Chris's life. For the early Noughties, the earlier ''Sonichu'' comics (especially [[Sonichu 4]]) are a substantial, if biased, record of notable events; Chris has supplemented this with several other records, including his [[diary]], and some videos from the time (such as his 2004 Christmas) have been leaked. For the twentieth century, which includes all of Chris's childhood and [[honor roll|high school years]], our records are much sparser. Some content, such as [[Manchester High Leaks|some school papers]] and [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch &amp; Win Sweepstakes|television footage]], have been unearthed, though much remains unknown or dubious. Indeed, much of our knowledge of Chris's childhood comes from later accounts by Chris. However, Chris's childhood is what made him the manchild he is today, so we must discuss it when discussing him. <br /> <br /> ===Early Childhood Saga (''24 February 1982 - 1991'')===<br /> [[File:ChildhoodSaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> Christopher Weston Chandler was brought into the world on 24 February 1982. He would allegedly speak his first word 'Monkey' only a month after his birth. Sadly, his speech would be stunted by his [[abusive babysitter]], who is either named 'Roche' or 'Roach'. At the age of 18 months old, Roche would lock him in a room filled with toys because she was angry at him. This would traumatize Chris so much that he would turn mute, and completely refuse to talk save for screeching and screaming.<br /> <br /> While mute, Chris would forge a friendship with a girl named [[Sarah Hammer]], who would become his first female friend. However, there is evidence that Sarah served more as a bully, playing cruel pranks on him such as locking him in her cellar after convincing him Casper the Friendly Ghost was hiding in there.<br /> <br /> His parents would send him to [[James Madison University]], where he was trained by a speech therapist to talk. There he would meet [[Joshua Martinez]], a boy who was sent there for his heavy [[Spanish]] accent. He would become Chris's first male friend.<br /> <br /> Chris would start speaking after being given a GoBot by [[Barb|his mother]], as he would start reading out the packaging <br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{ChildhoodSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Nathanael Greene Saga (''1991'')===<br /> [[File:GreeneSaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In 1991, Chris would start going to Nathanael Greene Elementary School. While there, Chris would be abused by [[Bruce Johnson]] and [[Mrs. Gaede]], who would both pin him to the ground and record his screams. Johnson additionally made Chris sit on his lap and said offensive things to him, supposedly causing his hatred of [[Gays]]. <br /> <br /> As Chris and his parents are known to be almost pathological [[Lie|liars]], it is unknown if this is an accurate retelling of events. Nonetheless, [[Bob]] would pull Chris out of the school and take the matter of court, though no action would be taken.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{GreeneSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Bearstein Saga (''1992 – 1995'')===<br /> [[File:Pre-Teen Saga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> After leaving [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]], [[Bob]] homeschooled Chris for [[1992]]. During this year, Chris and Bob would attend ''The Leonard Bearstein Symphony Orchestra'', which they both enjoyed. This would lead to an event in December, when the bear would ask for Christopher's name, which he would mishear as '''Christian'''. Chris would take this as a sign from [[God]], and Bob would agree to legally change his name to Christian.<br /> <br /> In 1993, Chris would start attending [[Providence Middle School]], and his encounter with the bear would bless those years of his life. He would have [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]] as a teacher, who he would later call the most influential person in his life. In the same year, he would enter the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch &amp; Win Sweepstakes]], and in [[1994]], he had won the competition, leading to [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch &amp; Win Sweepstakes#Video|the first-ever video recording of Chris]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{BearsteinSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===High School Saga (''August 1996-June 2000'')===<br /> [[File:The High School Saga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> In many senses, Chris peaked in high school. He holds his high school memories and gal-pals dear to his heart. From a positive view, he had his [[gal pal]]s, [[honor roll]], and job as a &lt;s&gt;water boy&lt;/s&gt; basketball team manager, and he produced a high volume of [[art]], which included [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] himself. On the flip side, he got an [[Song of Christian|F in English]] and had to ride on the short bus. Graduation was especially painful when he didn't win a not-so-prestigious best artist award.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{HighSchoolSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Early Adult Chronicles (''June 2000 – 27 October 2007'')==<br /> <br /> Chris came of age in 2000, a time of many transitions. Once he graduated from [[Manchester High]], he was no longer in the safe, regimented world of compulsory education. No more guaranteed or arranged friendships, and the kid gloves have come off. Colleges are also stricter when setting student accommodations, and professors don't always have time for special arrangements. Additionally, Chris got a taste of the real world at [[Wendy's]], which fired him for [[Donald Duck impersonation|multiple]] [[Cousin Al#Bowling Outing|reasons]]. <br /> <br /> The little boy who [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch &amp; Win Sweepstakes|was once doing so well]] now had to make his life work outside of school. Of course, some programs can help autistic folks find work, but Chris figured that was too [[stress]]ful. Instead, he took the easy route with help from [[Bob]]: he applied for [[Monthly tugboat|social security disability checks]]. While fellow students had to balance their schedules with jobs, Chris had all the time in the world to focus on school. After graduating, his whole life became free time. Without a job, Chris had little motivation to get his life together. <br /> <br /> While scarcer than in modern times, records for this period are much more substantial than those of Chris's childhood. Even without external provocation or influence, the events of this period, including the Love Quest and the first ''Sonichu'' [[comic]]s, were enough to make Chris an Internet legend and would lay the foundation for everything yet to come.<br /> <br /> ===PVCC Saga (''September 2000 - May 2006'')===<br /> [[File:The PVCC Saga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> From [[2000]] to [[2006]], Chris attended Piedmont Virginia Community College, a local community college, to obtain a degree in [[Computer-Aided Drafting and Design]]. It took him five years of [[Chris's education|schooling]] to complete an ostensibly two-year degree, and this time in his life was not without drama. His 21st birthday in [[2003]] marked the beginning of the [[Love Quest]]. Chris would go around campus carrying a [[sign]] showing his demands for an ideal partner. [[Mary Lee Walsh]], a dean at [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|PVCC]], confiscated the signs. He retaliated by making more; he even printed some out to put around campus walls. Chris eventually confronted Walsh, who [[banned]] him from PVCC for a year. Chris had to receive a [[autism papers|psychological evaluation]] to be allowed back on campus, and he began using the sign in other locations. Chris immortalized Walsh as a cartoon villain in [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PVCCSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> === GAMe PLACe Saga (''2002 - October 2011'')===<br /> [[File:Game Place.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> Currently the second-longest saga in Christory. For a long time, Chris had been visiting The GAMe PLACe on a regular basis. It was here that Chris would meet Megan herself, as well as [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]], two people who would deliver a number of intel over Chris during his time there. He also participated in the ''[[Pokemon TCG]]'' League, using his own poorly made decks. However, Chris was a pain in the ass to store manager [[Michael Snyder]], and by August 2008, tired of Chris terrorizing various [[niggos|patrons]], yelling at children, bogarting the TV and being an all-round pain, Michael would finally ban Chris from the store, embarrassing him and his mother in the process. It wouldn't be the end, however.<br /> <br /> On multiple occasions, Chris returned to the store despite Michael's insistence that he never come back. He tried emails, sneaking in, and [[Apology to Game &amp; Hobby Place|pleading]] on [[YouTube]], but nothing worked. The first time he attempted (unsuccessfully, of course) to lift his ban in person was with a prepared, [[Chris and remorse|faux-apologetic speech]]. When that failed, he stormed out angrily and called Michael a [[Chris and race|JEW]], then attempted to rally his &quot;fanbase&quot; and get them [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|to troll him]]. [[6 June 2010|The next occasion]] was much more disturbing. He claimed he was trying to take a picture of Michael [[CWC is Angry|to shoot at]], but was caught in the act and was chased in the parking lot. Nearly running over Michael and his daughter, eventually the [[Jerkops]] got involved, but they did not arrest him. Michael accused him of trying to take [[pedofork|pictures of his daughter]]. Whether it's true or not, it's [[Kacey|confirmed]] that Chris has stalker tendencies.<br /> <br /> The saga was revived in October 2011, when Chris and [[Barb|his mother]] visited the GAMe PLACe, and [[28 October 2011|an incident occurred]]. Exact details of events remain unknown, but charges such as assaulting a law enforcement official and property damage of more than $1000 were brought. Barbara was sentenced to community service and two years of probation. Chris was sentenced to community service, one year of probation, and mandatory [[Chris and Reality|psychiatric]] treatment and evaluation. They also had to pay Michael Snyder's medical expenses.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{GamePlaceSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Megan Saga (''Summer 2005 - April 2008'')===<br /> [[Image:Megansagaheader.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> From 2005 to 21 April 2008, this told the story of Chris and his longest and closest relationship with a girl, Megan Schroeder, leading into Chris's first encounter with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and Megan discovering the depths of Chris's madness. It began with a chance meeting at a ''[[Pokémon]] TCG'' League meeting at [[The GAMe PLACe]], which progressed into inappropriate touching and ended with shocking [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|hand-drawn pornography]] that was an embarrassment for all parties involved... excluding Chris. The saga would end when Megan told Chris [[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore|she could no longer trust him]]. Nonetheless, Chris has refused to let her go, and his useless attempts at making amends have stretched all the way to ''2018'' (for reference, that's a ''decade'' since Megan cut off ties with him).<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{MeganSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Stackhouse Saga&lt;/span&gt; (''June - 4 August 2007'')===<br /> [[Image:Adamsaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In June 2007, Chris entered and attempted to win a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|contest]] to win Megan's heart (more or less her china too), only to be beaten by a much superior entry made by one Adam Stackhouse. The saga resulted in [[CWC is Angry|madman]]-style threats and several angry e-mails and posts to contest organizers. Chris would rage for quite some time before deciding enough was enough. This was also the last time an unsuspecting member of the public inadvertently caused a saga. From then on, [[trolls]] would control the content.<br /> <br /> Over a decade after the Saga concluded, Chris finally made peace with Stackhouse after the latter made a surprise appearance in the audience for [[MAGfest#The Christory of Sonichu panel|Chris's panel]] at [[MAGfest]] 2018.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{StackhouseSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Classic Chris Era (''27 October 2007 to 20 March 2010'')==<br /> <br /> The era that most associate with Chris. The mists of antiquity begin to fade on 27 October 2007, when an unrelated thread on the ''Something Awful'' forums was derailed by someone mentioning seeing our epic cycle's hero in the flesh.<br /> <br /> ===ED Saga (''November 2007 - 14 April 2011'')===<br /> [[Image:Edsaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In November 2007, trolls would discover Chris and create a page about him on Encyclopedia Dramatica. Chris would initially think that they just got his information wrong, but as time would go on, Chris would reveal the true depths of his insanity, in the process destroying his friendship with Megan Schroeder and becoming the epic lolcow we know him to be. Were it not for this article showing how susceptible he was to trolling and how [[Autism|divinely autistic]] he could be, Chris may have just been another dumbass with no life, and probably would have been more or less forgotten by now. To this day, ED remains a thorn in his side which he must constantly address to those new to his life. Further to this, he still maintains they are out to do him harm, although the site has long since fallen out of relevance in Chris's life, replaced with outlets such as the [[Kiwi Farms]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{EDSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Blanca Saga (''August - 21 October 2008'')===<br /> [[Image:Blancasaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> Around August 2008, Chris would meet Blanca Weiss, making her his first Internet sweetheart. Aside from being the first sweetheart, she also proved how [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|tenacious and strange]] Chris could be about relationships, revealing several [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|quirks and oddities that he felt were somehow appropriate to mention]] to someone he believed loved him. It also showed how useless any [[white knight]]ing efforts could be. In the span of two months, Blanca (actually three trolls working in tandem) would release the infamous pictures of Chris naked, then obtain Chris's [[medallions]] and film a video of them cutting one up and [[Fire|setting it ablaze]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{BlancaSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Jimmy Hill Saga (''Mid-2008/Late 2008'')===<br /> [[Image:Jimmyhillsaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> At the same time Chris was dealing with Blanca, he was hit with another troll attack as he was led to believe that a man known as Jimmy Hill was using the Sonichu name and character to make money off of him in Europe. The thought of someone making money from his true and original creation led him to [[Captain's Log, Stardate Columbus Day, 2008|stress out and provide proof]] of the [[Copyright|infringement]]. Those attacks would end around the same time the Blanca Saga ended.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{JimmyHillSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Clyde Cash Saga ''(December 2008 - Mid-2010)''===<br /> [[Image:Clydesaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In 2008, Chris encountered a new troll named Clyde Cash, who went on a months-long trolling spree to get back at the autistic wonder for supposedly causing his [[Ryan Cash|brother's suicide]]. The saga would result in the revelation of a [[The Miscreants|top secret organization]] hellbent on preventing the manchild from losing his virginity. It only ended with the apparent death of its creator.<br /> <br /> However, in [[September 2009]] Chris resumed his war against Clyde Cash after discovering that he and another supposed troll, [[Gregg Mays]], were one and the same person. In the process, he made numerous videos attempting to blackmail the man, going so far as to mock a [[Twin Falling Towers|national tragedy]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{ClydeCashSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===PandaHalo Saga (''Mid-2008/Late 2008 - February 2009'')===<br /> [[Image:Pandasaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> When Chris realized Blanca was a troll, he would move on to PandaHalo as his new sweetheart. The saga came to a quick and abrupt end when he found out that she was supposedly found to be bearing the child of Clyde Cash, conceived through rape. Unsurprisingly, the ever-gullible Chris would quickly abandon Panda and she would (presumably) die in the Australian [[Brushfire Video|brushfires]], despite living miles away from the incident; question remains as to whether she really died in this event, or was actually working in tandem with Clyde, their relationship being consensual after all. She would end up giving trolls the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] and [[Slideshow]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PandaSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Miyamoto Saga (''January - 10 February 2009'')===<br /> [[Image:Miyamotosaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In the beginning of January 2009, Chris would be confronted by a troll posing as [[Nintendo]] developer [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], claiming he would attempt to try to make his ''Sonichu'' game fantasy a reality. Unfortunately, Chris proved to be nothing more than a couch potato, and his ineptitude resulted in horrible delays and stalls to the project's advancement. In the end, &quot;[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]&quot; shut down the entire project with a scathing letter. This trolling encounter would have Chris give trolls a PowerPoint project that talked in great length about [[Chris and his ego|himself]]...and very little about his game.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{MiyamotoSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Julie Saga (''February - March 2009'')===<br /> [[Image:Juliesaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> Arguably ''the'' most divisive and controversial out of Chris's trolls until the [[Idea Guys]]. In February 2009 to early March 2009, Chris's latest sweetheart would be Julie, who was in actuality a 13-year-old troll named [[BlueSpike]]. In this brief timeframe, BlueSpike would release the infamous [[sex tape]] and then torture Chris in many ways in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] chat, where he forced Chris to declare [[BILLY MAYS]] mayor of [[CWCville]] and destroy his second medallion by forcing him to shove it up the dumper. BlueSpike's total and utter control over Chris, as well as his arguably abusive ways of trolling him, would lead to a schism between trolls, leading to the creation of the [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] and this very wiki. One other less disturbing yet no less fascinating incident that came about as a result of this Saga was the [[Ohio Trip]]; taking place just a week before the infamous reveal, Chris was willing to drive hundreds of miles to Cleveland in the hopes of rescuing Julie from Max and Clyde Cash; needless to say, this has been the furthest he's driven for any Sweetheart, and since then Chris was unwilling to drive significantly shorter distances to meet later potential girlfriends such as [[Kacey]] and [[Jackie]] in the years that followed.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{JulieSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===PS3 Hacking Saga (''March 3 2009 - 30 August 2010'')===<br /> [[File:PS3HackingSaga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> After [[Bluespike]]'s vicious abuse of Chris, he was shunned, and kicked out of [[The Miscreants]]. However, many [[trolls]] took inspiration from him hacking into Chris's beloved [[PlayStation Network]] account, and used this as an inspiration for future trolling plans. On 22 [[May 2009]], [[Clyde Cash]] would fake his death and subsequently hack into Chris's PSN account, but he would get outplayed by a greater foe.<br /> <br /> During [[July 2009]], [[Jack Thaddeus]] would work with his daughter [[Samantha Thaddeus]] in order to gain access to Chris's PSN Account. Jack made Chris do many things in order to get his account back, including making [[It's UGH!#Video|two]] [[It's UGH!#Remake|videos]] proclaiming his acceptance of [[Homos|gay people]], and a video of him [[Chris humps his PS3|humping his PS3 for 8 minutes straight]]. <br /> <br /> On 24 [[February 2010]], [[Surfshack Tito]] would hack into Chris's PSN account, and less than a month later he would [[The Wallflower|steal his girl]]. <br /> <br /> On 3 [[May 2010]], Chris would find [[PS3/How the PS3 is Hacked|an article]] on the [[CWCki]], detailing how [[Clyde]] had placed a bugging device in his PS3, [[I Pimp My Ride|leading him to rip off the wifi antenna]]. On the same day, he would go undercover as a 14-year old troll named '[[JenkinsJinkies]]', where he would be invited to a secret trolling forum called [[Trollin Train]]. <br /> <br /> On the forum was a list of bounties, including a $9000 reward for anyone who could destroy Chris's PS3. Chris decided to claim the bounty, and recorded a video of him [[The MovingFoward videos|hitting it with a brick, running it over with his car, and then stabbing it with scissors]]. Unfortunately for him, [[Tito]] gave the reward to [[Liquid Chris]], under the belief he was the TRUE and HONEST CWC. And so Chris was left with no money and no PS3...until he bought a new one a few days later.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PS3Saga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Emily Saga (''March 2009 - 4 October 2010'')===<br /> [[Image:Emilysagaheader.jpeg|500px]]<br /> <br /> A troll, known online as 'LoveYouLongTime' would start interacting with [[Chris]] after he broke up with [[Julie]], under the name '[[Emily]]'. They quickly starting dating, and would meet up [[Date with Emily|in a now infamous date]], where a [[Man in the Pickle Suit|man wearing a pickle costume]] would walk up and steal her away from him. She would later announce in a [[Hooker incident#Post-date call|phone call]] that she had broken up with Chris, had sex with the pickle man, and was living with [[Clyde Cash]].<br /> <br /> She would continue interacting with Chris, under the name '[[Kim Wilson]]'. Despite Kim and Chris meeting up multiple times, he had no idea she was [[Emily]], due to his [[facial blindness]]. During her tenure as Kim, she would take Chris to a bar [[Chris's Big Night Out|two]] [[Chris's Big Night Out II|times]] and introduce him to [[Magical Man]]. She would continue talking with Chris all the way until [[2018]], though her last major interaction was when he told her [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|that he spooned regularly]] with [[Barb]]<br /> <br /> She's also met up with him pretending to be multiple other women, though none of these interactions are known.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{EmilySaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Ivy Saga (''March - July 2009'')===<br /> [[Image:Ivysaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In March 2009, a girl named Ivy decided to impress a friend by asking Chris for a video shout-out. She didn't know what would come later; his crush towards her would lead him to create 3 special comics and two music videos, a practical spurt of work that wouldn't be surpassed for awhile. The saga also revealed Chris at his [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|creepiest]] [[CWC's Message for Ivy|yet]], scarring many trolls and Christorians, but also provided an incredibly important resource for the latter in showing Chris's [[Heart Level]] at perhaps the strongest it had been since 2007, at least for a time. The saga also resulted in a [[CWC's ¨It's All Coming Back To Me¨|proposal of marriage]]. Despite the work spurt, the saga would come to an abrupt end thanks to a combination of troll interference from [[Joshua Martinez]] and interference from [[Bob Chandler]] and [[Rocky Shoemaker]], leading to Ivy's (fabricated) suicide.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{IvySaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Vanessa Saga (''April - May 2009'')===<br /> [[Image:Vanessa Saga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> In [[April 2009]], troll and fellow [[James Madison University|speech therapy]] attendee [[Joshua Martinez]] succeeded in getting Chris to believe that the ''High School Musical'' actress and pop star [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was in contact with him, through Joshua's AIM, in retaliation for Chris's horrible attempt at getting [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] to [[Vanessa Saga#Email to Joshua|troll him]] like Chris, himself, had been trolled. Chris would create videos to show that he was movie-star material, going so far as to [[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions|cheat]] on his current [[troll|true and honest]] [[Ivy|sweetheart]]. Predictably, [[Chris and reality|he wasn't]] exactly the type Vanessa was looking for.<br /> <br /> This [[Vanessa Saga|saga]] goes to show that even the most gullible of things can get by Chris, even when the perceived truth is a [[Weening|horrible]] [[Autism|excuse]] of ammunition against the poor manchild, which just shows how desperate he may be for [[Love Quest|romantic attention]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{VanessaSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===CWCipedia Saga (''4 May 2009 – 26 June 2010'')===<br /> [[Image:The CWCipedia Saga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In early June 2009, Chris was given his own wiki to upload his comics and blog about his personal life, safe from the trolls who instantly dive at his other web pages and hack them. It doubled as a source for the [[CWCki]] to draw many of Chris's latest failures from, making it his best friend and his worst enemy.<br /> <br /> On 19 [[November 2009]], perhaps one of the greatest features the wiki introduced was the [[Mailbag]], in which a dump of all [[fan]] e-mails sent to the admin's address could be answered by Chris, for all to see. This feature provided insight into how Chris responds to trolls through e-mail about his views on, for example, homosexuality, GodJesus, autism, etc.<br /> <br /> After 23 November 2009, advertisements linking to porn sites, gay rights organizations, information on Asperger's syndrome, and the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] took residence on the CWCipedia, paid for by trolls. Eventually, Alec, the creator of Asperchu, paid Jack Thaddeus to replace most, if not all, of the ads with ads for Asperpedia. Chris had [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|complained]] [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence|repeatedly]] to the SysOp of the Wiki about these ads, which would have paid for the site until the end of 2010, pending negotiations.&lt;ref&gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu&lt;/ref&gt; All of this had &quot;stressed&quot; Chris out to the point of uploading videos of himself screaming [[death threats]] upon the advertisers' heads, and creating a separate, stress-free, ad-free front page.<br /> <br /> This saga would lead to the site being shut down twice in a row, both due to copyright infringement, and would lead to the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]] in the most humiliating way - death by exploding toilet.<br /> <br /> The Asperpedia team would continue to vandalize and hijack CWCipedia in a variety of ways until it finally collapsed in May, and Chris finally abandoned the site after already making numerous claims that he'd quit the Internet forever. After Mao moved in to fill the void, he passed ownership to [[Alec Benson Leary|Alec]] and [[Vivian Gee]], wherein they took over the site and the rights to Sonichu to begin ''Sonichu'' Season 2, where ultimately, on 26 [[June 2010]], the entire site would be terminated along with the entirety of the original 110mb server.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{CWCipediaSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Liquid Chris Saga (''21 June - 10 November 2009'')===<br /> [[Image:Liquidsaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In July 2009, Chris came up with a plan to try getting the trolls off his back. He [[Rollin' and Trollin'|faked a revelation]] that he was apparently a troll himself who is the complete opposite of Chris in real life. Along then came the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler, which got the other Chris (at this point nicknamed [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] and Solid Chris) really pent up with rage. Ian would challenge Chris to a sing-off, with the TRUE and HONEST CWC proving himself the victor in the end. The appearance of this other Chris would pressure the other into churning out more comics than he had before, currently heading for the completion of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], something that many believed would never happen due to the interference of many trolls.<br /> <br /> Later, Liquid would return to continue on his quest to get rid of this faker. In the process of this new entry to the saga, Ian and Chris would battle over the heart of Chris's true love, [[Kacey]]. In the end, after a [[Kacey calls|long]] [[Father Call|series]] [[Kacey and Liquid Call|of]] [[The End for Real|calls]] that proved Ian to be unworthy of her love, the real Chris would win out and marry Kacey. Liquid's YouTube account would eventually close on 27 July 2011.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{LiquidSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Asperchu Saga (''November 2009 - 10 January 2012'')===<br /> [[Image:The Asperchu Saga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In late November 2009, an artist named [[Alec Benson Leary]] started a new series called ''Asperchu'', starring the titular Electric Hedgehog Pokemon. Chris had spent most of December ignoring ''Asperchu'' and its popularity before finally exploding with rage, claiming the series as nothing more than fanfiction and a parody. The popularity of ''Asperchu'', combined with Chris's continuing downward spiral that is [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], led many of Chris's fans to abandon ''Sonichu'' and go to ''Asperchu''.<br /> <br /> Most of the saga has been spent with Chris raging at not just Alec, but also [[Evan]], Sean, and Asperpedia admin Mao over their usage of their characters and how they mock him. As well, Chris has been dealing with Evan over the usage of Simonla Rosechu, with Chris going so far as to deny reality and substitute it with his own.<br /> <br /> In terms of productivity, it has given us ''Sonichu'' #10, which showcases Chris going all out in trying to get rid of everything he hates, including homosexuality and trolls. In that same book, Chris kills all four trolls involved in this saga as retaliation for making him kill Simonla Rosechu. Also, [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|nine phone calls]] have been leaked. These phone calls show Alec attempting to get through to Chris and his way of thinking and Chris fighting tooth and nail not to change at all.<br /> <br /> In the aftermath of the saga, Evan ceased his ''Simonchu'' comic, proud to have Simonla removed, Alec and Sean continued their respective comics, and Mao continues to poke and jab at Chris. And while the saga had for the most part died down, Asperpedia continued to harass its rival CWCipedia, either by placing new ads, vandalizing it, or shutting it down altogether. One of the post-trial ads even precipitated Chris's falling out with [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]].<br /> <br /> Alec Benson Leary would later be [[Calling Out &quot;Alec Benson Leary&quot; - Christopher|called out]] by Chris in 2011, and his identity was &quot;revealed&quot; as Christopher Paul Whitney, followed by Chris [[Chris and health|sloppily devouring a cheap microwavable pizza]]. This later turned out to be fake as months later, the ''real'' Christopher Paul Whitney made a response to Chris and essentially confirmed he was not Alec.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{AsperchuSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Tito Saga (''January 2010 - 10 August 2011'')===<br /> [[Image:The Surfshack Tito Saga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> Sometime in January 2010, Chris met and fell in love with [[The Wallflower]], hoping she would be the one who'd end his streak of being a [[virgin with rage]]. On 9 March 2010, Chris would release a ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' video of a stage based off a book he was helping write with his gal-pal... and release her name in the process. Dedicated trolls used the information to discover the gal-pal's identity, but decided to let the lulz spread naturally. The next day, however, a troll revealed the information to the gal-pal, and while one set of lulz was stopped, another one was set into motion.<br /> <br /> The troll, calling himself Surfshack Tito, claimed responsibility for not only hacking his PSN accounts for the umpteenth time, but also stealing The Wallflower from Chris. Chris, in response, threatened to go all out and seemingly try to murder Tito, threatening him with a [[pocket knife]], attacking him with [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racial slurs]], and [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|flashing his underwear while wearing a Scottish kilt]]. At the same time, Chris discovered and declared war on the CWCki, demanding that all pages involving himself, his friends and family be altered to suit his needs. To put it bluntly, Chris's attack on the CWCki fell utterly short.<br /> <br /> The creativity here has been utterly stunted, especially after The Wallflower left him. He has gone on to blame his fans for wanting him to make more comics and compared them to the trolls that have tormented him. He has also vowed to leave the Internet forever, though he ended up reshowing his face 36 hours after his vow...<br /> <br /> Tito was a major player in getting Chris to [[The MovingForward videos|destroy his PS3 for a fake bounty]]. Chris and Tito planned to meet up at a Starbucks where a [[pickleman]] would give him the money, but despite [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails#Waiting for $9001|waiting]] Tito would never show up. Tito later explained this was because he gave the money to [[Liquid Chris]]<br /> <br /> Echoes of this saga would be eventually heard in [[August 2011]] when, after announcing his glorious comeback to the Internet, Chris claimed to have discovered the true identity of Tito and tried to blackmail him using this information. Tito eventually [[Calling Out &quot;Tito&quot; - Don#Tito's official response|gave in]] to his demands on 9 August, which Chris [[Re: Don, and ReCalling Out &quot;Thorg&quot; - Jeremy|later acknowledged and accepted]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{TitoSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Dark Ages (''20 March 2010 to 3 September 2014'')==<br /> <br /> Though [[The Miscreants|the Miscreants]] could collectively keep Chris on edge for well over a year, it was inevitable that the archetypical lolcow would someday cease to give milk. His seeking out the Wallflower and then Jackie in person, instead of believing every self-declared boyfriend-free girl who caught his fancy online, was an early sign of the changing atmosphere: Chris's ill-fated attempt to seduce her marked a shift from focusing on on-line to real-world affairs. Information on Chris's life would increasingly need to be sought through [[Flipnote Hatena]], in-person encounters and other sources beside the Internet; [[Chris and cinematography|traditional videos]] became less frequent. Occasional [[muscle bra|transvestitism]] would soon become [[tomgirl|permanent]] as Chris began to leave his old identity behind him. Surprisingly, Chris would come to abstain even from his traditional [[Love Quest|pursuit of women]] and put the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]] on indefinite hiatus. <br /> <br /> All sagas during this period are of this early transitional phase: [[Bob Chandler]]'s death in late [[2011]] drew a veil over Chris's affairs for the next several years. Direct records from Chris during this time are nearly exclusively found on [[Facebook]]; for a time, it appeared that Chris had learnt from his many years of abuse at the Internet's hands and was finally keeping a low profile. We are again dependent mostly on third-party sources for events such as [[28 October 2011|Snyder's near-death at Chris's hands]], the resulting [[Chris and the law|conviction]] and the [[2014 house fire]] in the following years. Organic CWC-generated activity would not re-emerge until mid-[[2014]], proving that he had, in fact, [[honor roll|learnt nothing]] from past events. <br /> <br /> ===First Exile (''20 March 2010 - 29 August 2010'')===<br /> [[File:Exile.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> After Chris lost the Wallflower and fought with Surfshack Tito, an outside force attempted to push Chris away from the Internet. No less than five times, Chris has boldly claimed that he has abandoned the Internet and smugly told his detractors that they should go outside and live their lives, advice Chris should have followed ''years'' ago. However, Chris still latched onto the Internet as much as he could, trying to find ways to sneak in without the force discovering him.<br /> <br /> During this period he started a relationship with a girl named [[Jacklyn Romy]], and infiltrated the [[Trollin Train|inner circle of trolls]] using his persona '[[JenkinsJinkies]]'.<br /> <br /> Trolls would end up discovering Chris dancing like a dying turkey at [[Fridays After Five]], then discover that he had set up shop at [[Flipnote Hatena]], where he tried to spread his sick and twisted thoughts to younger, innocent people before being shut down several times. However, the thing that would finally bring Chris back to the Internet and end his exile would be [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction of his beloved Life Upgrade]]. At his own hands, no less!<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{FirstExile}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Jackie Saga (''5 April - 26 November 2010; 7 December 2010 - May 2012'')===<br /> [[Image:JackieSaga.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> Following the Wallflower incident's fallout, Chris pulled himself away from the Internet, only for him to meet and begin conversing to a woman named Jackie. Meeting her at [[The Hook Cafe]], the two began conversing through [[Jackie Emails|e-mails]], revealing the rationale in Chris's attempts to get back into The GAMe PLACe and showing [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|he's still incredibly disturbing]]. However, Chris broke off his relationship with her after she attempted to get him to change his life for the better.<br /> <br /> Around [[September 2010]], Jackie and Chris were confirmed to have attempted to try again with a relationship, with Chris creating [[100_2265|even]] [[ECV 00002|more]] [[Pregnant Act|disturbing]] [[Don'tPintheOop|videos]] in the process. A third party--[[Lars]] McNulty, Jackie's ex-boyfriend--stepped in by the end of September, prompting Chris to release several videos attacking his newfound enemy. Video updates became increasingly bizarre, but still occurred regularly until the end of [[October 2010|October]].<br /> <br /> By [[November 2010|November]], the leaked correspondence showed that Jackie was getting increasing impatient as Chris kept failing to fulfill her requests, while Chris made up a lot of lame excuses for why he could not deliver on them, all while continuously begging Jackie to have sex with him. On November 26, Jackie would send Chris the latest in a string of e-mails in which she criticized him for his laziness and unwillingness when it came to pay a more active part in relationships, and how he, despite of this, kept begging her for sex. Chris stopped responding at this point, leading many to believe that the Jackie saga had finished.<br /> <br /> However, in [[December 2010|December]], Jackie and Chris were in contact again. This would not be known until 2013, where a whole bunch of emails from then to [[September 2011]] were leaked. During this time, Chris came out as a tomgirl to her, while she later got Chris to make a bunch of humiliating videos, including [[Cakefarts]]. These would be leaked in [[February 2012]], leading to Chris unfriending her on Facebook in [[April 2012|April]], though refriending her a month later. She was never heard from again, putting an end to the saga.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{JackieSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Calling Out Saga (''6 August - 6 September 2011'')===<br /> [[Image:Call_Out.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> During the beginning of [[August 2011|August]], Chris began to release videos as an attempt to get some sort of [[fangs|reprisal]] and [[Chris and his Ego|apology]] out of the [[trolls#The Few, the Proud, the Elite|trolls]]. Chris warned the trolls that if they didn't meet his [[Chris and negotiation#Calling Out|demands]] on the [[Stress|deadline]] Chris had set for them, then Chris would leak information [[Naïve|that he believed to be true]], even though most believe some of the information to be [[Kimmi|fake]]. This saga is notable for [[Calling Out#Summary|videos]] that showcase Chris's new [[Tomgirl Pictures|Tomgirl]] look, and further set in stone the aformentioned [[Tomgirl Saga]]. Though Chris reached the zenith of the Calling Out Saga on a high, having believed himself to have exiled some of his most prominent rivals from the internet, these series of videos would, however, come to an abrupt [[September 2011#Events|end]] after [[Chris and death#Robert Franklin Chandler Jr. (1927–2011)|tragedy struck the Chandler household]].<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{CallingOutSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Second Exile (''6 September 2011 - 9 July 2014'')===<br /> [[File:CWC Exile II Banner.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> Unlike the other exiles listed here, the Second CWC Exile came unannounced with the death of his [[Bob Chandler|father]]. Then came [[28 October 2011|October 28]], a day which will live in infamy for Chris. After trespassing and running over [[Michael Snyder]], he and [[Barb]] were arrested. Despite the help of [[Rob Bell]], they were found guilty and were sentenced. Since that day, most, if not all of Chris' internet activity were confined to his [[Facebook]] account, where he would gripe about loneliness and nostalgia. It wasn't until 2013 where he uploaded a new video. Although [[January 2014]] would bring him back to the spotlight briefly due to [[2014 house fire|a house fire]], it wasn't until the Sonic Boom saga where he would return to relevance.<br /> {{SecondExile}}<br /> <br /> ==Renaissance (''3 September 2014 to 24 October 2017'')==<br /> <br /> A combination of events - namely yet another failed online sweetheart, and showing hatred for a ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' reboot so immense that it would eventually get him arrested - would lead to Chris being dragged back into the Internet spotlight.<br /> <br /> ===Catherine Saga (''9 July - 14 December 2014'')===<br /> [[File:catherinesaga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> With his newly acquired feminine wiles from his transition to a Tomgirl, Chris managed to attract a sweetheart who would be his first lesbian romance. In the summer of 2014, Chris would reveal he had found a new sweetheart, whose identity he managed to surprisingly conceal for period of time. Later, he would [[I Love You, Catherine|reveal]] that her name was Catherine. Predictably, she turned out to be a troll, who revealed much about Chris having met with him twice. Catherine's associate, [[Cousin Al]], would also meet the two of them at Applebee's, to which Chris would invite both of them to the charred remains of his house following a fire. From there, Al would collect several of Chris's old Manchester High assignments.<br /> <br /> According to Catherine, his [[Catherine#The Date|behavior had not improved]] since the sexual harassment in the early days of the Megan Saga, and neither had the Chandlers's [[Rental House|comprehension of basic sanitation]]. In addition to Catherine's observation on her personal encounters, Chris also announced he had got a piercing on his [[Un-clit|perineum]], meaning this Saga provides some more detail on Chris's disturbing new features as a Tomgirl.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{CatherineSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Sonic Boom Saga (''3 September 2014 - 7 December 2015'')===<br /> [[Image:SonicBoomSagaBanner.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> This Saga began with Chris grumbling on [[Facebook]] about the announcement of the latest [[Sonic]] game, ''[[Sonic Boom]]''. Chris wasn't alone in his discontent; many of his Facebook friends expressed disapproval about the deteriorating quality of the Sonic games. What made Chris unique in his irritation, is that the fact that Chris only took umbrage at the fact that the color of Sonic's arms had been changed from tan to blue. <br /> <br /> This baffled most of his white knights, with [[William Elliott Waterman]] trying to explain just how ludicrous Chris's demands to Sega to revert back to blue were, especially considering ''Sonic Boom'' was not part of the ''Sonic'' canon. The fact that Sega had no control in the design of Sonic's arms did not deter him and, thanks to his white knights who unwaveringly encouraged him, he began to protest. Initially, his protest against the &quot;Blue-Armed Bandit&quot; took the form of Facebook boycott groups, petitions, and [[Death Threats|angry messages]] on Sega Facebook pages.<br /> <br /> On [[26 December 2014|Boxing Day]], however, this Saga came into bloom, culminating in Chris's second pending court case. Despite warnings from even his most loyal white knights, Chris had decided to take it upon himself to bring the protest into the real world. He went into his local GameStops and vandalized the display cases, including stores he had [[List of places that have banned Chris|previously been banned from]]. It was during his visit to one of these stores that had banned Chris that resulted in his arrest on Boxing Day. Chris had been seen and asked to leave by the [[manajerks|management]]. After initially ignoring their requests he made his way towards the exit and, whilst on the way out, maced an employee, who hadn't been involved in his removal. As a result, Chris spent the weekend in jail, only to have Barb bail him out afterwards.<br /> <br /> Despite this, he continues to go on a tard rage over Sonic's blue arms, calling out Kengle because he owns a ''comic'' with blue-armed Sonic, sending glitterbombs to Sega, and buying a Sonic Boom doll just to rip its arms off.<br /> <br /> Later though, Chris claims victory in the blue arms debacle, due to Sonic the Hedgehog being his non-blue-armed form in ''Mario &amp; Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games''. He says this is the final update for the group, but only time will tell if he's telling the truth.<br /> <br /> Ultimately, after six days in court, Chris was found guilty on 15 October 2015 for the GameStop incident and was fined $541 along with a 180-day probation. Thus, the Blue Arms Saga ends (or has it?). Months later, Chris instructed his fanbase to [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers|boycott]] local stores which refused his request to be unbanned.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{SonicBoomSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Lady Managers Saga (17 November 2015 - July 2016)===<br /> [[File:LadyManagersSaga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> Between fall 2015 and summer 2016, Chris was in contact with people he vaguelly dubbed his ladyfriends or managers. During this time, he would be trolled by various characters - [[Jeff/Francine]] Ouzos, a thinly-disguised parody and wealthy rival of Chris; [[Sam and Ellen]], a lesbian couple considering Chris as a sperm donor, to whom he showed off his [[Chris's Specimen Sample|frozen sperm collection]]; and [[Johan]], the catalyst for the [[Lesbian Sex Audition]].<br /> <br /> This saga saw the return of Chris uploading videos to YouTube after a years-long hiatus.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{LadySaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Pmurt Saga (25 September 2016 - 20 January 2017)===<br /> [[File:Pmurt Saga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> The saga started with a [[September 2016 Facebook posts#Registered to vote|Facebook comment on 25 September]] in where he decried then Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump for his anti-LGBTQ opinions and misogynistic attitudes, labeling him &quot;Pmurt&quot; in an attempt to spite him. Many found this comment surprising, as Chris has been historically neutral in politics. As the election drew closer, Chris continued to criticize Trump, seemingly oblivious to the irony that any negative trait he could levy was far more applicable to himself. This saga reached its peak when Trump was elected president. During this point, he would make [[Pmurt#2016|death threats to him]]. This culminated in a one-week ban from Facebook.<br /> <br /> On Inauguration day, Chris would make [[The United States of America has NO President or Vice President, Whatsoever|one last attack]]. Although Chris still holds negative opinions of Pmurt, he is not nearly as expressive with his vitriol as he was during this saga. Even when Trump was impeached, Chris gave no thoughts on it.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PmurtSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Doopie Saga (''7 March - 26 September 2017'')===<br /> [[File:DoopieSaga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> Also coined by the [[Kiwi Farms]], this saga began when Chris [[2017 tweets#Empathizing with BPD|made a tweet]] empathizing with ''Planet Dolan'' animator and artist [https://www.youtube.com/user/DoopieDoOver DoopieDoOver]. He began frequently replying to her tweets, usually with small talk and the occasional sharing of a life experience, or shameless attempts at flirting. The saga's climax began on 1 August, when Chris pledged to Doopie's alternative Patreon account, &quot;Kittenbell&quot;, which handles pornographic commissions. The same day, Chris listed her among his [[Gal pals]] on &quot;National Girlfriend Day&quot;, only for her to promptly rebuke him. <br /> Afterward, Doopie tweeted about the harassment she was receiving (from Chris), went to the Kiwi Farms, and leaked his private e-mails to her business account. Chris discovered that Doopie had turned on him and desperately followed several of Doopie's friends (including her [[JERKS|boyfriend]]) in an attempt to stay connected. However, he unfollowed most of them when it became clear his plan would not work, while the rest blocked him themselves. <br /> <br /> Doopie has not contacted Chris since August 2017; his hopes of building her into a [[sweetheart]] or [[gal pal]] from the ground up, predictably, were in vain. By September, Chris had found a new sweetheart and moved on. Their interactions showed that Chris's immense [[Chris and socialization|social ineptitude]] and creepy behavior have not abated. Doopie inadvertently became the greatest [[Trolls|troll]] Chris faced in many years, [[Heart level|breaking his heart]] and feeding new information to Christorians.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{DoopieSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Quinn Saga (''7 September - 5 October 2017'')===<br /> [[File:Quinn Saga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> Jessica Quinn, for years a [[white knight]] of Chris, suddenly decided to troll him with the tried-and-true method of [[Sweetheart|pretending to fall in love with him]]. Highlights of the brief saga include pictures and videos of Chris crying over a short breakup, an old-fashioned [[CLog 10042017 - Q&amp;A NO MORE|rage video]] following their final breakup (which he initially blamed on hackers from [[Kiwi Farms]]), and Quinn manipulating Chris into adding fat fetishism to ''Sonichu''. This saga would serve as the transition for the new wave of trolling yet to come for Chris.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{QuinnSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Transcendental Awakening (''August 2017 to 30 July 2021'')==<br /> <br /> After a period of reemergence from Chris, several trolls soon began to notice Chris' deteriorating mental state, and found it the perfect opportunity to troll him again, this time through the tactic of [[enablers|enabling]] his beliefs and brainwashing new ridiculous concepts into him. This all began with [[Joshua Wise]], an anime-obsessed troll who greatly manipulated him for his own personal gain by changing major parts of the canon of his Sonichu comics, coercing him into producing strange videos, and proposing the [[Polyamorous marriage|infamous marriage]] between Chris and a bunch of fictional characters, half of which Chris had already created. <br /> <br /> Chris' new motto to [[Chris and kindness|befriend everyone he meets]], even complete strangers, has also made it much easier to manipulate him. Because of this, many other trolls began to follow suit, using some of the same tactics that Wise had used to manipulate Chris with, with very little questioning on his end. Since then, Chris has started to believe himself to be the goddess of an alternate dimension, dubbing himself and all other residents of said dimension as &quot;[[OCs]]&quot;. <br /> <br /> ===Idea Guys Saga (''25 October 2017 - 29 April 2018'')===<br /> [[Image:Ideaguysaga image.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> In early November 2017, Chris began blurting out nonsensical stories about [[Sonichu (comic)|his comics]], such as the characters of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia]] invading [[CWCville]], CWCville reacting to the invasion by setting up [[Operation BARBarossa|concentration camps]], and Vladimir Putin being president of the United States in another dimension. He also began making strange videos involving Internet memes and cultural and historical references he clearly did not understand.<br /> <br /> It came to light that an anonymous troll, acting as Chris' &quot;idea guy&quot;, noted Chris' difficulty distinguishing [[Chris and reality|reality and fiction]] and lack of understanding of history and politics, and began convincing Chris to make bizarre or politically incorrect content. There are signs that the Idea Guy's influence was coercive or deceptive in nature, such as Chris being [[Chris and hypocrisy|shocked]] at his suggestion that Rosechu was [[Homos#Transgenderism|transgender]], and appearing visibly uncomfortable as he performed an &quot;[[CWC-isms#A|anchuent]] [[Cherokee|Cherokean]] chant&quot;.<br /> <br /> After a calm period in early January, the saga escalated again as Chris made [[Smashing|two]] [[Get Out, You D*** Nazis|bizarre]] videos of ranting about Nazis and smashing his possessions. Possibly as a response, moderators at [[Kiwi Farms]] doxxed the Idea Guy troll, revealing his name as Joshua Wise. <br /> <br /> Despite that setback, Wise decided to continue being the Idea Guy. His changes to ''Sonichu'' remained canon, with Chris continuing to produce drawings using ideas which Wise had established prior to the dox, and Chris continued to proudly wear the [[Chris and fashion#Gopnik outfit|Gopnik outfit]] which Wise first convinced him to don.<br /> <br /> Chris subsequently announced that he was bisexual, and was attracted to [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|his own fursona]] and said he had gotten married to [[Cryzel and Magi-Chan]]. More questionable acts such as Chris [[Dick Licker; that is I|licking pictures of Magi-chan's penis drawn on a wall]] and prostituting himself on Twitter were scripted and executed.<br /> <br /> In May 2018, [[The Captain]] discovered what the Idea Guys were doing and rescued Chris from the Idea Guys. He, along with [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]] and [[Null]], then gathered evidence to submit to law enforcement. As for Chris, he disavowed some ideas given to him by the Idea Guys (though keeping the majority of them, like his make-believe marriage).<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{IdeaGuySaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Prequel Comic Saga (''2 January 2018 - 14 May 2018'')===<br /> [[File:PrequelComicSaga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> On 2 January 2018, the graphic designer and comic creator [[Bryanfrogboy|Bryan Shickley]] would get the attention of Chris after he had created &quot;Chris Chan: A Prequel Comic&quot;. Bryan then soon claimed that he would make merchandise off of the francise, to which Chris approved. During a time when Chris was in financial ruin, which was later worsened after the Idea Guys extorted money from him, the comic, along with the merchandise created by Bryan, would become some of the first things that Chris would promote to help him out of his dire financial situation. <br /> <br /> Bryan's comic would also get Chris to reflect on some of his biggest blunders, including SheCameForCWC.jpg, him attemping to run over Michael Snyder, and others. <br /> <br /> A highlight of the brief saga includes Chris approaching what appeared to be his first male sweetheart, Bryan himself, as a result of the Idea Guys previously brainwashing him into believing he was bisexual, even writing an erotic gay poem for him. Attempts were made by Bryan's girlfriend to keep Chris away from Bryan. Along with this, gal-pal Tings Tingz would also show feelings for Bryan.<br /> <br /> Due to his associations with Chris during the midst of the Idea Guys, Bryan would be accused by onlookers as a possible troll and/or ween, as well as getting attacked by actual weens himself. <br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PrequelComicSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Guard Dogs (''Summer 2018'')===<br /> [[Image:Guard Dogs Banner.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> After the events of the Idea Guy saga, it became clear that Chris was dealing with a [[ween]] epidemic. To combat this, Null and The Captain decided to step in and filter Chris's emails and Twitter to prevent trolls from getting through. Null made a thread on Kiwi Farms showing off the intercepted ween messages and even doxxing the senders.<br /> <br /> According to con attendees, Null seems to have recruited some Kiwi Farms users to follow Chris around [[BronyCon]] in 2018 in order to prevent people from talking to him. If this is true, it's most likely in response to Chris's meltdown at [[TooManyGames]] and Null, not wanting this to happen again, assembled an elite anti-ween task force. The Captain assisted Chris when his car broke down on the way back from BronyCon. More elaborate plans were also implemented, including a plan for a field agent to whisk Chris away to assisted living after his mother passes.<br /> <br /> Null and The Captain would also attempt to give Chris advice. In particular, Null encouraged him to talk to his therapist about the Idea Guys, in order to fast-track law enforcement involvement, but Chris was reluctant to do so. Instead, Chris opted to retreat into the ruins of his fantasy world. Eventually, it became clear that Chris had disregarded the precautions set up for him and found a new set of trolls to replace the Idea Guys: the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. Null and The Captain's willingness to help Chris has since diminished, although they remain in proximity to Chris online to document and discuss any goings-on.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{GuardDogSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Teen Troon Squad Saga (''24 April 2018 - 1 January 2019'')===<br /> [[Image:TTS Saga2.png|500px]]<br /> {{main|Teen Troon Squad}}<br /> <br /> The Teen Troon Squad is a group of 18- to 19-year-old FTM trans people who live locally to Chris. They gained influence over Chris upon purchasing his porn artwork on [[eBay]] for $1,000 in April 2018. <br /> <br /> After Chris was rescued from the [[Idea Guys]] in May 2018, he continued to hold onto the beliefs they had programmed into him. Although he was encouraged to seek [[Chris and psychology|therapy]], Chris balked at the idea and instead sought out more people to feed his delusional thinking - and got his wish in the form of the Teen Troon Squad; around October of that same year, for the second time in 2018, Chris was trolled by people claiming to be his own fictional characters when the Squad invited Chris over to their house, where they pushed his delusional thinking.<br /> <br /> In October 2018 Chris began outlining a supposed 'Dimensional Merge' that would take place at the end of 2018, in which the [[Reality Cartoon|real world]], aka Dimension 1218, and its sister dimension, C197, were to collide and combine in an event of supposedly-apocalyptic proportions. Lukas, a Squad member, has alleged that this was a holdover from the Idea Guys, but implied that the Squad encouraged these beliefs in Chris.<br /> <br /> In November 2018, several previously unreleased Idea Guy videos, such as [[All Star]], [[Tour of Chris's House III]], [[Chris slaps himself]], and [[Chris lost Crystal]] began to be leaked on Chris's Twitter.<br /> <br /> In late December 2018, the Squad was doxxed by an unknown party who logged into Chris's Twitter. One of the Squad members then leaked more documents on /cow/. On 30 December 2018, Chris wrote a Twitter post bashing Lukas, also mentioning that Lukas had wanted him to buy [[alcohol|booze]]. As a result of the spotlight being well and truly shone upon their schemes, the Teen Troon Squad has since retreated into the shadows.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{TTSSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;!--==ChuuChuuRocket (July 2018 - October 2018)==---&gt;<br /> <br /> ===GOPony Saga (''13 August 2018 - Present'')===<br /> [[File:GOPONY.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> As the [[2010s]] came to a close, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic was clearly entering its last days. Since its target audience is school aged children it's a common practice by the more competent animation studios to end those shows before it gets to the point that the kids watching it are younger than the show itself. Afterwards, if said show was part of a franchise, they create a new installment for said franchise. Such a cycle has been happening in My Little Pony since its inception in 1984 and has happened once again. Friendship is Magic ended in [[2019]] with a more light-hearted filler series airing from [[2020]] as a way to tide over the fanbase until the premiere of the new generation, which happened in [[September 2021]] with the release of a movie. The filler series, called MLP: Pony Life struck a major nerve with Chris who holds the belief that Friendship is Magic is meant to have 14 seasons due to delusions rooted in the [[Dimensional Merge]]. This instance, preceded in [[August 2018]] by a panning of the leaked early designs for the G5 ponies were some of the occasional posts of disapproval throughout the close of the decade. For a while it was on Chris' back burner but on 27 [[July 2021]] Chris uploaded a tard rage video demanding that the new My Little Pony generation be cancelled, confirming that Chris holds Sonic Boom-esque feelings towards this. The lulz were subsequently cancelled when Chris admitted to incest.<br /> <br /> However, despite his incarceration, this hasn't stopped him from expressing nothing but hatred towards this reboot. Chris had expressed in numberous jail letters about how he believes the reboot has caused major world catastrophes such as the Russo-Ukrainian war. <br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{GOPonySaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Jacob Saga (''14 July - 28 November 2019; 15 July - 26 August 2020'')===<br /> [[File:Jacob Saga.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> Though he had been [[autism|autistically]] obsessed with Chris since around 2018, amateur sorcerer Jacob Sockness only made Chris's acquaintance in [[June 2019]], after an unremarkable troll convinced Chris that Sockness would be interested in buying his filthy bathwater. On 14 [[July 2019]], the two agreed to a closer partnership: Sockness would act as a middleman for Chris's [[2019 Sales Listings|merchandise]], in order to evade Chris's [[eBay#Suspension of Chris's eBay|eBay ban]]. The two would soon abandon this scheme, however, instead deciding to direct their attention to another of their shared interests; [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|pretending to be gods]]. Their mystical and occultist schemes would cross-pollinate, Jacob's extraterrestrial demons wending their way into the [[Dimensional Merge]]'s logistics. The most notable example being the [[Spirit possession#Magi-Chan|Magi-Chan possession]], in which from [[August 2019]] to [[September 2019]], Chris believed that he swapped minds with [[Magi-Chan]] in order to visit [[Jacob Sockness]] so he wouldn't need to actually do so in real life. The period of Magi-Chan roleplaying lasted an entire month. Jacob's antics with Chris was not ignored, as soon, [[Kiwi Farms|onlookers]] would find out about Jacob and dox him, but Sockness would not be deterred by a mere dox; for he had apparently already doxxed himself long before meeting Chris, and would boast freely and frequently about how he was misleading Chris for his own ends. [[Slow-in-the-minds|Despite the obvious dangers]], Chris continued to believe Jacob's teachings [[honor roll|at face value]], and encouraged his desire to meet in person. In late [[September 2019]], the situation nearly reached a boiling point when Sockness announced that he had secured a train ticket and was traveling from his home in California to [[Charlottesville]], and threatened that he would [[rape|brutally abuse]] Chris after arriving at [[14 Branchland Court]]. Being understandably alarmed by this, Chris [[Chris and negotiation|demanded]] that Sockness return, and with the help of the [[Watchmen]], arranged for a [[white knight|supporter]] to intercept Sockness in Chicago and provide for him to return to San Francisco. Jacob relented, and the two grew more distant. Sockness would temporarily return to Chris's good side in late [[October 2019]] and early [[November 2019]], yet by the end of that month he would once again be cast aside by Chris.<br /> <br /> However, in early 2020, Chris once again started to talk to Jacob, believing in Jacob's supposed [[Magical thinking|occult practices]]. Though it appeared that they were coming close to one another again, Chris's and Sockness's relationship would permanently come to an end in [[August 2020]], after Sockness creepily theorized on [[Twitter]] that [[Mia Hamm]] supposedly bared Chris's illegitimate child after they had sex. Although Jacob would make several other attempts to win Chris's favor over the course of the next few months, all attempts would ultimately be unsuccessful.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{JacobSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Rise-N-Fall (''Mid 2018 - 31 July 2021'')==<br /> <br /> By mid-2018, with the creation of several [[Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History|documentaries]] pertaining to Chris, a new generation of Christorians had began to form, and awareness of the Chris Chan saga began to rise, further fueled by Chris's expanding fantasy world, partially influenced by webcomic [[Ben Saint]].<br /> <br /> In late 2019, a group consisting of [[enablers]] and [[white knights]] was established through [[Discord]] to gatekeep Chris from potential [[trolls]], [[A-Log|A-Logs]], and the aforementioned weens. Much like many other white knights and enablers, they gained Chris's trust by appealing to and indulging in his delusions, specifically ones related to the [[Dimensional Merge]] and [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddesses]]. They eventually named themselves the Watchmen. The group's primary objective was to protect Chris from trolls. <br /> <br /> Alongside the Watchmen, another group of enablers called [[Praetor]] had formed, allowing Chris to profit off of his fantasies (though only at a fraction of what they themselves made), the closest he's gotten to a real job. In conjunction to this, Chris was pumping out more drawings on a consistent basis.<br /> <br /> As a result of both groups, and Chris's newer business ventures, Chris's life appeared to become more stable, as there was less interference from trolls, he was now consistently making profits due to a growing fanbase, and he had even found a woman who was actually attracted to him. This era marks the calm before the storm, when most of Chris's activity seemed primarily dormant again, and it appeared that things were going much better for him... Until a very dark secret came to light.<br /> <br /> ===Copitz Saga (''19 May 2018 - December 2019'')===<br /> [[File:CopitzHeader.jpeg|500px]]<br /> <br /> On 19 May 2018, the Youtube speedrunner and Twitch user [[Copitz]] had began visiting [[14 Branchland Court]] to record videos of himself with Chris and his friends in several different areas. Some of these videos included ones where Chris was in an abandoned hospital hunting for ghosts, while others had involved several interviews with him.<br /> <br /> Copitz would get contacted by [[TheGamerFromMars]], who wanted to get in contact with Chris for his documentary series, [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy]]. Throughout the documentary, there are 8 scenes of Copitz and GFM talking with Chris, in between the meat of the episode, which is a summary of Chris's life. Despite meeting with Chris in [[December 2019]], the documentary would only be released on [[March 2022]]. <br /> <br /> {{CopitzSaga}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--===TooManyGames Saga (June 2018)===--&gt;<br /> &lt;!--==MKR Saga (December 2018 - 31 July 2021)==--&gt;<br /> &lt;!--==WCT Saga==--&gt;<br /> <br /> ===TF2 Analysis Saga (''Late 2018 - 30 October 2020'')===<br /> [[File:SoftExileBanner.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> In [[January 2019]], a slew of people began to block Chris on Twitter, either due to his own harassment or egging on by weens. This caused Chris, naturally, to rage about it, and eventually to protect his Twitter account. For months, he had shown no signs of budging. All of his tweets during this period consisted of complaining about being blocked, or else his dimensional delusions mentioned above. After protecting his Twitter account, he would greatly reduce his social media activity, and in [[June 2019]] even extended to disabling comments again on his [[June 2019 videos|recent videos]]. This period of time also marked Chris's bizarre adoption of the word &quot;[[My Little Pony|Bugbear]]&quot; (a phrase referring to minor annoyances) and employing it almost everywhere in his wild and unclear rants. After several months, Chris's initial bitterness from the blocks seems to have faded, and he opened his Twitter account for the public again.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{SoftExileSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Secret Shipfic Saga (''16 August 2019 - 31 July 2021'')===<br /> [[File:SecretShipficSagaBanner.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> On 16 August, 2019, Chris began to create trading cards for his Sonichu comics, much like his [[Wall of Originals]] using a template from the My Little Pony parody game ''[[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder]]''. His most ambitious project in several years, Chris fully embraced the concept, and has seemingly supplanted the ''Sonichu'' comics in favour of the cards as his principal monetary venture. The card game also became Chris's primary means to expand upon the lore of the fantasy world that he has created, and that several trolls from before had provided influence onto. Chris had posted several cards featuring the OCs created by fans and enablers.<br /> <br /> [[Ben Saint]] a webcomic artist and creator of the webseires ''Endless War'', had tried to profit off of Chris's infamy by implementing characters from the comic into Sonichu, thereby creating the &quot;Slime Saga&quot;. Chris had eventually implemented Ben's characters and ideas into Sonichu in [[Sonichu Special 7]]. However, Ben's attempts at creating a new saga from the ground-up, and promoting his comic, by tinkering with Chris's own comics only proved to be of a very limited success when Chris began ignoring Saint's attempts at provocation by mid-October, and when conflicts of interest had risen between the two creators. Following from this, several white knights and past enablers such as [[Jacob Sockness]] and [[MKRNightVee]] came into the scene in order to regain power over Chris or to justify Chris's actions. When Chris began shifting his focus on his Sonichu comics to the aforementioned card game, Chris had implemented Saint's characters, as well as ideas brought to him by drama surrounding him, and a new wave of [[white knights]] defending Chris's actions, [[enablers]] suggesting new OCs into Chris's now expanding universe, and [[weens|wannabe trolls]] trying to take a piece of Chris's infamy for themselves would show up into the mix.<br /> <br /> Chris was able to develop a new fanbase through a series of commissions, and implementing people's [[OCs]] into his canon.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{ShipficSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Watchmen Saga (''Late 2019 - August 2021'')===<br /> [[File:WatchmenSagaBanner.png|500px]]<br /> <br /> The Watchmen would gatekeep Chris through means of collecting information, doxing, and harassing anybody attempting to interact or get involved with Chris. The existence of the Watchmen was not publicly known until [[August 2020]], in which they leaked content that they had received from Chris.<br /> <br /> The Watchmen would be responsible for and or related to many notable events that took place throughout 2020 and early 2021. Such as removing [[Jacob Sockness]]'s influence over Chris, the previously mentioned [[2020 Discord leaks]], being heavily involved in the [[Discord Q&amp;A]]'s, and having multiple conflicts with members of [[Praetor]].<br /> <br /> However, as 2021 continued on, the Watchmen seemingly became less publicly involved with Chris. Things came to a head in [[June 2021]], as internal conflicts among the Watchmen arose, with a member of the group, [[The WCT]], being doxed on the [[Kiwi Farms]] by the leader of the group, [[Naught|Bismuth]]. The WCT then decided to inform Chris of Bismuth doxing him. As a result, Chris recorded a short audio clip saying &quot;Fuck Bismuth!&quot; before leaving [[The Place]], a Discord server run by the Watchmen, while The WCT was being simultaneously banned from it. A few days later, another member of the Watchmen stated on Twitter that Chris had apparently cut contact with her and other Watchmen. This incident effectively ended the most known iteration of the Watchmen.<br /> <br /> A new Discord server, entitled [[The Knights of CWC]], was established by [[The WCT]], who invited Chris and several members of the Watchmen. In the meantime, Chris was also set to attend the brony convention [[Everfree Northwest]]. Chris was already in contact with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella &quot;Bella&quot; Janke]], who was later known for making A-Logging comments and edgy jokes about wanting to harm Chris. Chris was also secretly in contact with a sweetheart codenamed as &quot;[[The Suitress]]&quot;, a young autistic woman who had a genuine crush on him, who had planned to meet him at the convention. Chris invited both the Suitress and Bella into WCT's Knights server. The both of them had agreed to serve as bodyguards to protect Chris from [[Jacob Sockness]], who swore to attend the event in disguise. Bella would also agree to serve as Chris's &quot;photographer&quot;. <br /> <br /> Chris would remain active in the Knights of CWC server all the way up until [[Jail Saga|his arrest on 1 August 2021]] due to his incestuous behavior with Barbara. When Bella attempted and failed to damage control her name, she would trick the WCT into believing that a set of fabricated texts she made that alleged Chris was having BDSM-style sex with Barb were real, and that the Suitress had also owned a copy of these texts of her own. WCT sharing these texts, along with partially revealing the Suitress's identity would get him in hot water, and cause many Watchmen members to turn tail.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{WatchmenSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;!--===Chandler's List Saga (June 2020 - August 2021)===<br /> <br /> The long-awaited sequel of the [[Calling Out Saga]].<br /> --&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Praetor Saga (''October 2020 - Present'')===<br /> [[File:PraetorSagaBanner.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> On October 2020, Chris would be seen in a photo posing with several members of a group refered to as Praetor. This group would sell Chris-related merchandise with his permission. Most of the merchadise that Praetor had sould would have been used as a means for Chris to profit off of his fantasies amist the Financhu Crisis, creating his very own cult. Chris had a sermon regarding the Dimensional Merge at the Goochland Library. Praetor had also created special Golden Medallions which would give customers access to the Golden Church of Sonichu.<br /> <br /> By the time Chris had interacted with Praetor, Chris had also gotten in touch with a new sweetheart, Isabella &quot;Bella&quot; Loretta Janke, who created an animated intro for him by his request. Bella also acted very nice around Chris, which would cause her to gain much trust from him. However, Bella also displayed notable A-logging elsewhere, claiming that she wanted to get Chris to harm himself or commit suicide, and even claiming that she tried to persuade other Praetor members to convince him to cut his penis off.<br /> <br /> Praetor was also a target of the white-knight group, the Watchmen. Most infamously, Praetor promoted the sale of tasers and stun guns on their Etsy page to simulate &quot;zapping to the extreme&quot;. A taser and Pikachu mask would be found in their shopping cart. Chris stated on 21 February 2021 that he wanted to use a taser in order to activate the Dimensional Merge by zapping his [[Gate Crystal]]. Following this, Chris engaged in a call with Praetor leader Caden Peck and several Watchmen members, discouraging him from taking this course of action. A chunk of the full call would be leaked, leaving out much of the key context in the full call, and many rumors about the group and the call would be spread by Watchmen leader [[Naught]], Larry Vaughn, and Bella on the Kiwi Farms, as well as by the Christuber [[GiBi]] on his own YouTube channel.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PraetorSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Warhol Saga (''24 May - 19 September 2021'')===<br /> [[File:WarholHeader.jpg|500px]]<br /> <br /> In May 2021 Chris discovered an Amazon listing for a book made by Don Lashomb that favorably compared him to mid-century pop artist Andy Warhol. Naturally this inflated his ego and caused him to devote several tweets to said comparison. Don Lashomb would actually end up writing the book, and selling it on Amazon. Later Chris went on to begin reviewing the book and made [[Warhol Tweets|Tweets]] featuring his takes on the weens compliments, despite his disapproval at Lashomb saying his [[Chris and Reality|delusions weren't real]]. Chris would make several periodic tweets throughout summer 2021, reviewing the book as he went along. <br /> <br /> Chris and Don talked in private multiple times, and Lashomb would state that he was very pleasant to talk to, due to him supposedly being polite, able to take criticism, and paying attention to detail&lt;ref&gt;[[Warhol / Chris Chan#Lashomb's Interactions with Chris]]&lt;/ref&gt;. Don was one of the people Chris would drop hints to about his [[Affair with Mother|incestous relationship]] with [[Barb]], though he didn't pick up on them. Despite Lashomb cutting ties with Chris, Chris would continue to promote the book in prison.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{WarholSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;!---===Bella Saga (''October 2020 - 31 July 2021'')===---&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Incest Saga (''26 June 2021 - 31 July 2021'')===<br /> [[File:IncestSagaBanner.png|600px]]<br /> <br /> During the beginning of 2021, Chris exhibited [[Lonely feelings|many signs of sexual frustration]] much more intense than ever before, to the point of openly discussing this with several Watchmen members, as well as crushing on [[MKRNightVee|several]] [[Annie Ikenberry|females]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|of]] [[The Suitress|interest]] all at once, and having wet dreams involving cartoon characters&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:ThePlace1stLayer 02Feb21 - almost sex dream.png]]&lt;/ref&gt;. Towards the end of June, Chris grew impatient and decided to release this sexual frustration on his own mother. Chris would do this over the span of one month every three days. Chris would hint at this affair over this timespan, referring to Barb as a &quot;Sweetheart over 50&quot;.<br /> <br /> On 5 July 2021, Null would be one of the first people that Chris would confess to having a &quot;sweetheart over 50&quot;.<br /> <br /> On 27 July 2021, Chris would also confess to Bella that he was having an affair with the &quot;sweetheart over 50&quot;. About two weeks later, on the the 28th, he would further confess in a 4-hour call that this sweetheart was actually his mother. The following night, when Bella had given her an edited 9 minute version of the call, the Suitress initiated leaks of it by sharing a further edited 4-minute version of the call, and then the full 9 minutes when people doubted its legitimacy. Bella would end up doing damage control to her name soon after, which ended up with her getting discovered.<br /> <br /> On 31 July 2021, two days after the initial leak, Greene County police were contacted and Chris was removed from his property, with Barb also being taken to a hospital for a checkup. An emergency protection order was also taken out against Chris, forbidding him from contacting Barb or setting foot on his property for a week.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{IncestSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Silent Years (''1 August 2021 - 16 October 2023'')==<br /> <br /> After enjoying nearly 14 years of being an infamous YouTuber with a cult following, Chris's notability rose as his reputation plummeted. His name trended on Twitter as local news picked up on his largest controversy yet, accompanied by many major shifts in Chris's life.<br /> <br /> ===Jail Saga (''1 August 2021 - 27 March 2023'')===<br /> [[File:Jail Saga Banner.png|600px]]<br /> <br /> On 1 August, Chris was arrested outside the Regency Inn he was staying at, and the next day was officially charged for incest. By the end of the month, it was discovered that Barb had returned home, and that the Chandlers' car had been returned to her, with new numberplates replacing the SONICHU ones. During that period, Chris was being held in Central Virginia Regional Jail without bond.<br /> <br /> This saga is notable for the [[jail letters]], a series of letters Chris has written to fans and wannabe trolls alike, answering their questions and providing a stream of information about his current delusions and stay in jail. A vast majority of these letters would be Chris's ramblings of being a messianic figure, as well as being a reincarnation of Jesus Christ. Chris's desperation to get out of jail would show all throughout the saga. <br /> <br /> After three continuances, On 28 February 2022, Chris was transferred and committed into the [[Western State Hospital]] mental institution in Staunton, Virginia (formerly known as the Western State Lunatic Asylum) for a competency evaluation before his next hearing.&lt;ref&gt;[[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022]]&lt;/ref&gt; During his stay, Chris was allegedly [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|pinned down]] by the orderlies on his last day in the facility.<br /> <br /> Chris was eventually transferred back to the Central Virginia Regional Jail on 3 May 2022. The period between these two transfers would prove to be one of the more silent moments in Christory, due to such facilities having strict measures regarding the interactions between its patients and the outside world.<br /> <br /> Chris's last hearing had occured on 22 July 2022, where Chris's case was elevated to the circuit court, and sent to a grand jury for a potential felony charge. On 5 August 2022, David Heilberg had issued a motion for an autism disorder deference for Chris's case, where he is placed under probation terms and supervised. A transportation order for Chris has also been made on 10 August 2022. A review of Chris's case following the deference has been scheduled for 8 August 2023.<br /> <br /> On 27 March 2023, Chris was released from custody.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:VineLink Out of Custody 27 March 2023.png]]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:VineLink Out of Custody 27 March 2023 - 1 49 pm update.png]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PrisonSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;!---===Sonichu Project Saga (4 October 2021 - Present)===<br /> <br /> On 4 October 2021, Chris had responded to a letter initiated by the long-time orbiter [[Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt]].---&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Third Exile (''27 March 2023 - 16 October 2023'')===<br /> [[File:ThirdExileBanner.png|600px]]<br /> <br /> In the aftermath of the incest and jail sagas, Chris had taken on a status quite similar to [https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/EDP445 EDP445] post-cupcake incident, with a new wave of [[YouTube]] coverage, [[passive observers|observers]], and [[weens]]. After being released from prison, Chris was spotted multiple times doing his daily activities for the first time since being arrested, and sightings of him were recorded and reacted to akin to mythical creatures.<br /> <br /> In Chris's third sighting at [[Chesterfield Towne Center]], Chris noticed he was being photographed, looking quite displeased. Chris then disappeared for most of May.<br /> <br /> In late May and early June, Chris reappeared in the Christorian eye, this time actively trying to disguise himself. Chris's ways included hiding the [[Sonichu Medallion]] under his shirt, [[Chris and fashion|wearing very brightly colored clothes]], dyeing his [[hair]] bright teal (which ended up looking more [[Barbara Chandler|grey]]), and wearing [[Pedo-Glasses|big bulky glasses]]. Chris also started wearing hats, though this be could Chris trying to hide his hair after accidentally destroying it while dyeing, as his hair looks significantly thinner in the late May and early June sightings.<br /> <br /> On 8 [[August 2023]], the review for Chris's [[Affair with Mother|incest]] charge resulted in &quot;[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 8 August 2023.png|Resolved Order Pending]]&quot;. On the 10th, Chris became online again for the first time in over two years, marking the end of his exile from the internet, although he did not choose to post publically for another two months.<br /> <br /> Just a few days after the [[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart (August)|9th Chris Chan Sighting]], Chris began popping up in random places on the [[internet]], initially on 10 August 2023 when Chris's [[Pokémon GO#Post-jail|Pokémon GO]] account was active and reportedly played with other people. Two days later, Chris [[PlayStation Network#Post-jail activity|spoke his first recorded words since his release as a status update on his PlayStation Network account, being &quot;I'm Christ Chan Prime&quot;]].<br /> <br /> ''Four'' days after that, Chris [[Twitter#Post-jail activity|became active on Twitter/X as he likes his first posts]], mostly consisting of ''[[My Little Pony]]'' fanart, Tweets from the official G-Fuel account, and [[Enablers|Enabler]]/[[White-Knighting|White-Knight]] made &quot;welcome back&quot; fanart. Most tweets Chris liked were met with increased engagement, with the phrase &quot;Chris Chan Was Here&quot; being commented on the majority of liked tweets. Chris has been liking tweets everyday since the 16th, with a small break in between the 26th and 31st.<br /> <br /> On 23 August 2023, Chris makes his [[DeviantART#Post-jail|first post-jail social media posts]] in a massive dump of previously unseen art made during his Third Exile, along with new versions of art drawn during his stay at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] and custom [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder]] cards. Chris also uploads new content from the unfinished ''Sonichu 15'' comic, now renamed to ''[[Sonichu 0 HD]]''.<br /> <br /> On the 25th, Chris's charge of [[Affair with Mother|incest]] was [[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 25 August 2023.png|dismissed]], making Chris [[Honest Content#True and Honest|truly, but not honestly]], a free man. <br /> <br /> On the 31st, Chris played the Street Fighter 6 demo, which is a [[PS5]] game. [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris Gets the Boot|Unless the group home Chris was potentially staying at had a PS5]], a 500 dollar console, Chris most likely bought it with his [[Monthly tugboat|hard earned cash]]. Chris also bought a Core membership for DeviantART.<br /> <br /> On 1 September 2023, Chris [[HEXBox#He likes it for real now|appeared online on Xbox]].<br /> <br /> On 4 September, Chris's car was spotted at [[14 Branchland Court]]. On the same day, Chris began getting spotted with a [[Flutter|mysterious blonde woman]], who many noted as looking very young. On the 20th, Chris was spotted allegedly hugging and ''kissing'' the woman. <br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{PostJailSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Second Coming (''16 October 2023 - Present'')==<br /> <br /> After months of public sightings and reports of incognito online activity, Chris, now officially Mrs. Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime, officially returned to the online world, proclaiming themselves the messiah. Chris receives a surprisingly warmer welcome back than expected, as everyone is presumably traumatised enough by the previous few years both in and outside of Christory not to care anymore. <br /> <br /> If there is anything to show by Chris's return, Chris is most likely even more deranged as ever, just with better video editing techniques.<br /> <br /> ===Revelations Saga (''16 October 2023 - Present'')===<br /> <br /> On 16 October 2023, Chris made his first series of social media posts for over two years on YouTube and Twitter, dubbing himself &quot;Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime&quot; and that he had been resurrected and returned. Praetor's [[OfficialCWCmart]] store once again became operational.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{RevelationsSaga}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *''[[Excel Saga]]''<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> {{Newbie}}<br /> {{Timeline}}<br /> {{CWC-isms}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Trolling]]<br /> [[Category: Sagas]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chris_Chan:_A_Comprehensive_History&diff=317607 2023-12-14T19:04:42Z

<p>Homsar: /* Geno Samuel article */</p> <hr /> <div>Does this really need to have an article? Unless Chris acknowledged these video essays or has talked to the creator personally like he did with [[Sachumo]], I don't think this should exist. Reading off CWCki articles isn't very impressive and has little to do with the history of Chris himself. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 00:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> He has actually talked about them and acknowledged them on Twitter, though mostly in a negative light in the past because it exceeded the hurtful truth level. The series is also highly popular on KF and Reddit with Chris himself even following and liking Geno's tweets about the series. Even if it is just reading the CWCki, it's an easily accessible way to see a lot of Chris's videos and audio in chronological order. --[[User:Moppo.moose|Moppo.moose]] ([[User talk:Moppo.moose|talk]]) 01:05, 21 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Again, spoonfeeding random CWC factoids to twelve year olds isn't impressive nor is it important to Chris himself. CWC mentioning him is more of a reason to keep this article up, but if the only documented acknowledgement was a tweet then it should probably just stay on the twitter article(s). If this article stays up, every kid with a 10 dollar walmart mic and sony vegas will start plugging their &quot;extensive documentaries&quot; on this wiki. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 02:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Cutting this article down==<br /> I think we should cut this article down and only document Chris' responses to it. Seeing that's what we do to all the fan works. Description of each episodes and the youtube account backstory about the old and new series seem pointless. Since Geno works hard on these, maybe we could put up a link to the episodes playlist on the main page. - [[User:Klop|klop]] ([[User talk:Klop|talk]]) 03:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Section ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a section about the people who interact with Chris having had some influence from the series? The intro mentions [[KwaiiSandbag]]:<br /> <br /> :The documentary itself ended up being a part of Christory in a more direct fashion, as at least one enabler interested in Chris's story reached out to him and successfully encouraged him to stop role-playing as Sonichu by pretending to have psychic powers.<br /> <br /> Other examples would be [[Jacob Sockness]] and (supposedly, there's no source on her article) [[Bella]]. [[The WCT]] might count too since he was apparently in Geno's Discord server and met Naught through it. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :He most certainly played a crucial role in introducing many, many people to Christory, so I certainly think there should be a section dedicated to that. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 02:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hyphen ==<br /> <br /> Does the series use the hyphen in &quot;Chris-Chan&quot;? Scrolling through the episode titles, it seems to spell it as &quot;Chris Chan&quot;. This article should be renamed without the hyphen if that's the case. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Intro ==<br /> <br /> I think the intro could be rewritten a bit. For example:<br /> <br /> :Geno's videos go into greater detail, with each video being around 30 to 40 minutes in length. The series currently covers 35 out of 39 years of Chris's life, currently covering just about everything of note from Chris's birth to late 2017.<br /> <br /> And<br /> <br /> :The series is in chronological order, taking several videos just to cover Chris's life before his internet fame, with a significant portion of the series (28 episodes) dedicated to the densely packed events of 2009 and 2010.<br /> <br /> Could be noted that a portion of the runtime is from playback of Chris's audio/video. For example, '09-'10 has a lot of Chris videos because the trolls pushed for him to make those.<br /> <br /> Also that the series works with what is public information as its source material. However trolls never released much of their interactions with Chris - see quotes from the Pickle Man on [[Chris and manipulation]] - so this affects the source material. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 18:13, 28 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Split/merge? ==<br /> <br /> Should we split [[Geno Samuel]] to its own article by moving the infobox to [[Geno Samuel DMs]] and renaming that page to [[Geno Samuel]]? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:35, 22 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == April Fools ==<br /> <br /> Does the write-up about April Fools '23 need to be there? If people want to keep it in, I think it should probably be rewritten a bit to specify it's an April Fools joke at the beginning, like the other April Fools mentions. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:52, 1 April 2023 (EDT)<br /> :Rewrote it, and also added a note that the video was unlisted the following day. [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 11:04, 2 April 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Geno Samuel article ==<br /> <br /> Given the [[December 2023 social media posts#Criticizing Geno's medallion product|medallion stuff]], which doesn't really seem relevant to the Comprehensive History series, should [[Geno Samuel]] be made its own page again? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:13, 14 December 2023 (EST)<br /> :Normally I find stuff like this to be redundant but given the sheer size and widespread knowledge of the doc it seems fitting. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:04, 14 December 2023 (EST)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chris_Chan:_A_Comprehensive_History&diff=317606 2023-12-14T19:04:29Z

<p>Homsar: /* Geno Samuel article */</p> <hr /> <div>Does this really need to have an article? Unless Chris acknowledged these video essays or has talked to the creator personally like he did with [[Sachumo]], I don't think this should exist. Reading off CWCki articles isn't very impressive and has little to do with the history of Chris himself. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 00:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> He has actually talked about them and acknowledged them on Twitter, though mostly in a negative light in the past because it exceeded the hurtful truth level. The series is also highly popular on KF and Reddit with Chris himself even following and liking Geno's tweets about the series. Even if it is just reading the CWCki, it's an easily accessible way to see a lot of Chris's videos and audio in chronological order. --[[User:Moppo.moose|Moppo.moose]] ([[User talk:Moppo.moose|talk]]) 01:05, 21 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Again, spoonfeeding random CWC factoids to twelve year olds isn't impressive nor is it important to Chris himself. CWC mentioning him is more of a reason to keep this article up, but if the only documented acknowledgement was a tweet then it should probably just stay on the twitter article(s). If this article stays up, every kid with a 10 dollar walmart mic and sony vegas will start plugging their &quot;extensive documentaries&quot; on this wiki. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 02:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Cutting this article down==<br /> I think we should cut this article down and only document Chris' responses to it. Seeing that's what we do to all the fan works. Description of each episodes and the youtube account backstory about the old and new series seem pointless. Since Geno works hard on these, maybe we could put up a link to the episodes playlist on the main page. - [[User:Klop|klop]] ([[User talk:Klop|talk]]) 03:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Section ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a section about the people who interact with Chris having had some influence from the series? The intro mentions [[KwaiiSandbag]]:<br /> <br /> :The documentary itself ended up being a part of Christory in a more direct fashion, as at least one enabler interested in Chris's story reached out to him and successfully encouraged him to stop role-playing as Sonichu by pretending to have psychic powers.<br /> <br /> Other examples would be [[Jacob Sockness]] and (supposedly, there's no source on her article) [[Bella]]. [[The WCT]] might count too since he was apparently in Geno's Discord server and met Naught through it. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :He most certainly played a crucial role in introducing many, many people to Christory, so I certainly think there should be a section dedicated to that. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 02:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hyphen ==<br /> <br /> Does the series use the hyphen in &quot;Chris-Chan&quot;? Scrolling through the episode titles, it seems to spell it as &quot;Chris Chan&quot;. This article should be renamed without the hyphen if that's the case. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Intro ==<br /> <br /> I think the intro could be rewritten a bit. For example:<br /> <br /> :Geno's videos go into greater detail, with each video being around 30 to 40 minutes in length. The series currently covers 35 out of 39 years of Chris's life, currently covering just about everything of note from Chris's birth to late 2017.<br /> <br /> And<br /> <br /> :The series is in chronological order, taking several videos just to cover Chris's life before his internet fame, with a significant portion of the series (28 episodes) dedicated to the densely packed events of 2009 and 2010.<br /> <br /> Could be noted that a portion of the runtime is from playback of Chris's audio/video. For example, '09-'10 has a lot of Chris videos because the trolls pushed for him to make those.<br /> <br /> Also that the series works with what is public information as its source material. However trolls never released much of their interactions with Chris - see quotes from the Pickle Man on [[Chris and manipulation]] - so this affects the source material. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 18:13, 28 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Split/merge? ==<br /> <br /> Should we split [[Geno Samuel]] to its own article by moving the infobox to [[Geno Samuel DMs]] and renaming that page to [[Geno Samuel]]? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:35, 22 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == April Fools ==<br /> <br /> Does the write-up about April Fools '23 need to be there? If people want to keep it in, I think it should probably be rewritten a bit to specify it's an April Fools joke at the beginning, like the other April Fools mentions. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:52, 1 April 2023 (EDT)<br /> :Rewrote it, and also added a note that the video was unlisted the following day. [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 11:04, 2 April 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Geno Samuel article ==<br /> <br /> Given the [[December 2023 social media posts#Criticizing Geno's medallion product|medallion stuff]], which doesn't really seem relevant to the Comprehensive History series, should [[Geno Samuel]] be made its own page again? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:13, 14 December 2023 (EST)<br /> :Normally I find stuff like this to be redundant but given the sheer size and widespread knowledge of the doc it seems fitting. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:04, 14 December 2023 (EST)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Saga&diff=317605 2023-12-14T19:01:59Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *The current saga should be called the &quot;Revalation&quot; saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br /> * Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> * Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> ==Changes==<br /> So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> * I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> :*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> ::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline==<br /> [[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br /> So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br /> *I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br /> :*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> *I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br /> ----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Gregg Mays saga==<br /> Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br /> <br /> ==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br /> Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br /> * I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;L&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;m&lt;/font&gt;]][[nudes|&lt;font color=&quot;limegreen&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ===Actually...===<br /> Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> <br /> *Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name &quot;Homosexual ad saga&quot; does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called &quot;CWCipedia saga&quot; since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Ha i win sucker, I actually like &quot;Cwc saga&quot; as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br /> ::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br /> <br /> I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of &quot;The WallFlower Incident&quot;, we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Vanessa Saga==<br /> <br /> My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == more saga sum up images ==<br /> <br /> we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br /> [[image:Picture_4.png]]<br /> <br /> == Tito saga ==<br /> <br /> '''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br /> <br /> Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that &quot;Lovely Weather&quot; is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==IRL Saga?==<br /> <br /> It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an &quot;IRL Saga&quot; would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> * I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he &quot;left&quot; the Internet the &quot;CWC Exile Saga&quot;. But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br /> <br /> Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> *It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> **Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ****Maybe we should put &quot;interim activities&quot; as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being &quot;off the internet&quot; and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> *****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged &quot;Saga&quot; it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==PS3 Saga?==<br /> <br /> Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==Missing Sagas==<br /> Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br /> *1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> ==On Sagas==<br /> This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term &quot;saga&quot; gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br /> <br /> What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole &quot;saga&quot; thing. You have Chris and &quot;Miyamoto&quot; talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br /> <br /> So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not &quot;You calling Chris saga.&quot; Chris dressing up as a woman is not &quot;Tomgirl saga.&quot; Seeing Chris at the mall is not &quot;Chris at the mall saga.&quot; Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own &quot;Gigantic Attention Whore saga.&quot; Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br /> <br /> I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> *Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as &quot;X&quot; or as &quot;X Saga&quot;? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> :*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be &quot;Miyamoto Saga e-mails&quot; or &quot;Vanessa Saga chats&quot;? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> ::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Individual Saga pages ==<br /> <br /> I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br /> * EDIT: I noticed there are articles called &quot;Vanessa Saga&quot; and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br /> * I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> **I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such &quot;Jackie Saga&quot;, &quot;Blanca Saga&quot; or &quot;Julie Saga&quot; will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br /> *** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br /> * I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Second Exile saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br /> <br /> - I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br /> <br /> == Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br /> <br /> I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are &quot;taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.&quot;, I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this &quot;Facebook saga&quot; as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that &quot;Catherine saga&quot; at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br /> :Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> *I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there an &quot;Ebay&quot; Saga going on right now? ==<br /> <br /> Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br /> <br /> <br /> *I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br /> <br /> *So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br /> <br /> *Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a &quot;Tomgirl Saga, Part 2&quot; sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br /> <br /> In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Boxing Day Saga ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br /> I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the &quot;Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing&quot;, but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br /> --Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br /> <br /> No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br /> --Fredinno<br /> <br /> == Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br /> <br /> Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br /> <br /> == Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br /> <br /> chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br /> should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br /> <br /> I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br /> <br /> == Just throwing it out there ==<br /> <br /> I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah. I agree with Ujirat here. Wait and see before declaring the Pmurt Saga. This has the possibility to explode into one of the most interesting sagas since the golden age, but right now, there's really nothing of interest that occurred since Eid, Pmurt, Eid and Feelings of the election results. The fumes are there, all we need is a spark.<br /> <br /> Maybe if Sonichu restarts, he'll include Trump as a villain and Clinton as a Christ like figure? I don't know. All we can do is wait and see (and prepare the popcorn).<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 23:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edits to Megan and Game Place Sagas ==<br /> <br /> Revised the Megan saga because it was described as the &quot;first and longest&quot; of the sagas when the Game Place saga ran a good six years longer than Megan's did. In the interest of the edit not being completely subtractive, the &quot;longest saga&quot; superlative was rewritten in the Game Place saga where it would be accurate. I suppose there's room for debate on it being the longest, though, since there is no exact date known as to when Chris started patronizing the Place, so it can easily be undone in that case. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 01:09, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update to 2017 ==<br /> <br /> It's been roughly a year since the last image was added. I'm working on an extension to the current timeline all the way to 2017, adding in the rest of the Selling out Saga, and adding in the Financhu Crisis. I was wondering if I should add in the Pmurt Saga, as some of you have dubbed it, or if there's anything else you all could think of to include it onto the list. You all have around three days before I upload the finished image.<br /> [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 02:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Don't, as the Pmurt Saga is not yet official (and most people are opposed to it anyway; see the &quot;Just throwing it out there&quot; section above)<br /> <br /> -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 02:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seems fair. Then I'll just add the rest of the Selling out Saga, and the Financhu Crisis. [[User:Navy|Navy]] ([[User talk:Navy|talk]]) 03:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doopie saga ==<br /> <br /> If not much else happens with the saga by, say, the end of the year, should it be kept up?<br /> {{Unsigned|Hurtful Truth Level}}<br /> *Probably not. This definitely has potential, but there's the possibility it won't go anywhere like the Jeff, Johan, and Terra Strong debacles. A couple of videos by Chris or an escalation of his discourse with Doopie would solidify this as a saga to me. Otherwise, this wouldn't really be worth mentioning on this article. --[[User:Galilean|Galilean]] ([[User talk:Galilean|talk]]) 20:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Yeah, nah, sagas can't really be named until after the fact. I'm removing the doopie section until something funny happens. [[User:Canine|Canine]] ([[User talk:Canine|talk]]) 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> * Recently, Doopie has been becoming subject to trolling mainly from interacting with Chris. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] 19:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Jessica saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should Jessica Quinn be a saga?<br /> <br /> <br /> I think it should be listed, as it's separate enough from the Doopie saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ladyfriend Managers saga ==<br /> <br /> There should be a saga entry for the trolling from 2015-2016, which included characters like [[Jeff/Francine]], [[Sam and Ellen]] and [[Johan]]. Chris let it slip that he thought he had a manager at least twice - [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/December_2015_Facebook_Posts in December 2015 on Facebook] and again in July 2016 [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Announcement_20160709|in a video]. Given the timeframe, they were probably behind that content. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 11:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Reverted an edit which removed the Lady Managers for being too minor of a saga. I disagree - they influenced Chris for a while. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vanessa Saga ==<br /> <br /> Is the Vanessa Saga really a &quot;Saga?&quot; it's just some random troll who chatted Chris a few times via AIM. It doesn't seem like a noticeable chapter in Chris' life to be a saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> ==2nd Exile Saga==<br /> <br /> I'm surprised that there is no mention of the 2nd CWC exile. I think it should be added. [[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:42, 26 December 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timeline ==<br /> <br /> Somebody needs to update the Timeline, that thing hasn't been updated since the Doopie Saga. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]<br /> <br /> == Idea Guy ==<br /> <br /> It's too soon to declare the idea guy saga over, we should probably wait say a month or so to see if Chris responds to the doxxing fiasco or if he's still under his control.<br /> <br /> <br /> Does the Idea Guy saga really need to be extended to April? Wise has nothing to do with any of Chris' current shenanigans, and [[Dick Licker; that is I]] [https://kiwifarms.net/members/shadow-resident.23381/ was apparently natural according to Shadow Resident]. Either way, Wise doesn't have any place in recent Chris content. [[User:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|DirtyCrappedMiniskirt]] ([[User talk:DirtyCrappedMiniskirt|talk]]) 15:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I do have plans to rename the saga to the &quot;Coercion&quot; saga, or something similar, since lately, a lot of what Wise did has pretty much influenced a lot of people to continue fucking up Chris' already messed up psyche. In a sense, it does seem like somewhat of a continuation of the saga in question, we'll just see what happens for the rest of the month. For now, I've decided to rollback all of the edits I've made on the saga itself. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]<br /> <br /> == Explain the 'Lady Managers' and Pmurt Sagas ==<br /> I get what in Chris's life they refer to, but I'm not sure whether they should count as sagas, and given that no one has filled in their sections on the page, I don't think I'm alone.<br /> <br /> From what I understand the 'Lady Managers Saga' seems to be defined as a combination of Chris's interactions with Jeff/Francine, Sam and Ellen, and the &quot;lady managers&quot; themselves - but none of these events seem connected, and Chris never mentioned the lady managers in relation to either of the troll encounters. Do we know exactly what influence they had on him?<br /> <br /> Calling Chris's comments on Trump a saga feels like a stretch; all they really illustrate is that Chris fairly mainstream political views, but behaves like a child when he doesn't get his way. Chris has made more political content since 2016, but the state of national politics has had no real impact on his life and he's never really acted on his anti-Trump hysteria. If he had written a bunch of left-wing diatribes into Sonichu or stayed home from Bronycon to bash the fash back in Charlottesville, I could understand, but he hasn't, so making a big deal out of it just feels like pro-Trump schadenfreude. While Chris's recent political views are fair game, they're already covered on the [[Chris and politics]] page.<br /> <br /> :Writing about the Lady Managers is tricky because they never released their info. We know they were active from December 2015 to July 2016, since Chris let slip at those times that he thought he had managers. The characters they came up have a common theme revolving around mocking or getting Chris to talk about his tomgirl lifestyle - Jeff/Francine was a parody of him and ADF, Sam and Ellen got him to talk about his frozen semen collection and fuck another blow-up doll on camera by framing it as a sex audition for who would get to impregnate them.<br /> <br /> :Chris took his hatred against Pmurt to a comical extreme. He wrecked toys as effigies on video, hanged Lego Trump and Pence, and made the death threat. I think it merits a saga because Chris was obsessed with him for a few months and the content was funny. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Merging Idea Guy and Magi-Cryzel sagas ==<br /> <br /> [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-590#post-3373402 Evidence has surfaced] which indicates that Josh Wise was responsible for both Idea Guy and the stuff that happened during Magi-Cryzel. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:18, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Megan ==<br /> <br /> I think the Megan saga ended in 2008, when she cut off contact with him. Chris may have raged about her / gotten nostalgic for her years later, but those are more of follow-ups rather than part of the core saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Null has done nothing ==<br /> <br /> Given Chris' recent insane ramblings the consensus on KF seems to be that Idea Guy is back yet again. If Null was still being Chris' bodyguard wouldn't he have stopped this? He got Chris to forward all emails and texts so Josh or that Kentucky guy should have been spotted immediately identified by Null. He's been mum on this for a while too, he hasn't doxed a ween in ages. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 23:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I never considered the &quot;Guard Dog&quot; saga to be true saga anyways. Also, we have yet to confirm his recent antics to be the acts of the Idea Guys. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Null isn't the only bodyguard. The Captain seems to be the one who's talking with Chris the most right now. And like Larry said, it's not confirmed who the new trolls are, whether they're the original Idea Guys or someone else. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Though it is an ongoing saga, so if you want to include it, I'd suggest a new entry, &quot;Magi-Chan saga&quot;, since the troll is posing as Magi-Chan. If it turns out to have been the original Idea Guys, we can merge it like how we did the Cryzel saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:18, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rewrite Dimensional Merge to focus on Teen Troon Squad ==<br /> <br /> On other wiki pages, we have entries referring to both &quot;Dimensional Merge&quot; and &quot;Teen Troon Squad,&quot; which refer to the same overall chain of events.<br /> <br /> But the Merge is more of a subsection of [[Teen Troon Squad]], since it's their idea. And in addition to the Merge, the Squad has also been releasing Idea Guy videos and their own screencaps of convos with Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 12:11, 30 December 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sagas prior to the Megan Saga ==<br /> <br /> Since the Megan saga began prior to Chris's discovery, shouldn't we add high school and college as sagas? They were both important times in Christory, and since so many of his early antics happened at [[PVCC]] (i.e., the [[sign]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], etc.), his college days should definitely be a saga. High school too, since that's where he created Sonichu and met his gal pals. Should I go ahead and add high school and college as sagas? [[User:AAE|AAE]] ([[User talk:AAE|talk]]) 22:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Based on the current definition of a saga:'an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time.', I do not think a high school saga would be appropriate. I do think that you could make a stronger case for a PVCC/Mary Lee Walsh saga since there was much more drama involved and the significant ways Mary Lee Walsh and Chris' time at college would influence his future life. Chris' college years are also the begining of the first online discussion of Chris, so I think a college saga would be important. [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 12:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Potential MKRNightvee saga ==<br /> <br /> Due to Chris more closely and more frequently associating with Meghan Ringo I think that there should be a saga dedicated to her. I think at this point MKR has been outed as a troll and Chris is convinced of her legitimacy. [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meghan-k-ringo-mkrnightvee.52454 Thread on MKR's manipulative ways.] - [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Too soon to call right now. So far, she's only had some set-up done. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chris' twitter lockdown ==<br /> <br /> Would you consider his recent twitter actions as a potential 3rd Exile? [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline Update==<br /> <br /> Since the timeline graphic was last updated there have been sagas created that fall outside the 2005-2018 dates on the timeline graphic. Should I update the timeline graphic with all of the new sagas? [[User:Super Tom Nook|Super Tom Nook]] ([[User talk:Super Tom Nook|talk]]) 3:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Soft Exile naming issue ==<br /> <br /> The way this saga is centered around the exile, it could continue indefinitely if Chris keeps his new account protected. It might be good to refocus this to be about Chris freaking out over the blocking bronies instead - he just tweeted that he's done with the blocking drama, so assuming that holds true, then 22 February would be the end of this saga. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Looks like he's not over it quite yet https://i.imgur.com/QqJdGUl.png [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 07:26, 23 February 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reinstate the Merge saga? ==<br /> <br /> Chris is still mentioning the merge stuff and it seems like the Teen Troon Squad were just Idea Guy wannabes. Plus the Troon squad is no longer influencing him now.<br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:49, 13 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Agreed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *I too like this idea. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Classifying some sagas as eras ==<br /> <br /> From a discussion on the Tomgirl Saga talk page, we should reclassify some items on the Saga list as eras instead. An era could be defined as a set of events which could go on indefinitely, as opposed to a saga which is a story that eventually wraps up or fizzles out, and be filed under the same column as the Exile sections. Transgender (renaming Tomgirl), Financhu Crisis, Business, Dimensional Merge, and Soft Exile could classify as that. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm sure you have thought long and hard about this, but the exiles are already confusing to read after getting through the non-linear list of sagas. Further confusion comes from &quot;Inter Exile Sagas&quot; which are like Star Wars spinoff movies. I don't get it. The timeline graphic is long, and there is overall a lot to wade through. It would be nice to know all of what has happened and is happening at a glance. As for the word &quot;era&quot;, it's accurate but less exciting than &quot;saga&quot;. [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 03:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Section: Pre-Christory ==<br /> <br /> I was just thinking recently, shouldn't we have a section on Pre-Christory? I'd personally define it as the period before Chris became noticed by Encyclopedia Dramatica. Basically, it would be the period where Chris was still a goofball, but wasn't nearly as infamous. In that same section, I was thinking we should add a sub-section for his high school years, as that somewhat shaped who he is today, and it was a significant era in his life. It would also include the PVCC, Megan, and Adam Sagas.[[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 21:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I don't think the Jacob Saga is over ==<br /> <br /> With Chris appointing him as the overseer of his Patreon, the Twitter dialogue about wanting to share a kiss, and Jacob planning an alleged Halloween visit suggests that their interactions are far from over. It does seem that the rift from September 28 to now just seems like a lull, and most Sagas had lulls and I know of many that were prematurely given an end date during said lulls. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 02:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Categories for Sagas. ==<br /> <br /> For the past decade, sagas were put into two groups, ones for sweethearts, others for trolls. Considering that the Love Quest is now over, I think we might need a category for Chris' finances or one for his enablers. [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> : Sagas describe the content we get from Chris, and the Financhu Crisis, if looming in the background for quite a while, has certainly not been a running theme driving Chris's antics since 2017 or so. Begging is too related to unrelated, incidental expenses and satisfied by enablers too quickly for Chris to sustain output within a theme. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 23:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Enablers saga? ==<br /> <br /> Should [[Enablers]] / [[Other enablers]] have a saga entry? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Why would we need to have an enablers saga? Doesn't the Dimensional Merge Saga kind of cover that? [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 08:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree with PsychoNerd. Classic Chris had an epidemic of weens, and modern Chris has one of enablers. Neither wave of mimics deserves its own saga. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 08:46, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thetan ==<br /> <br /> Maybe [[Thetan]] could be added to the Saga list. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:30, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :I disagree. I feel that Thetan's activities were too broad and far apart to qualify. I mean, she's essentially along the lines of [[Kim Wilson]]/[[Emily]], but she doesn't have a dedicated saga. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 18:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not sure about Thetan's activities being too broad - those primarily revolved around posing as ex-classmates in 2013/14. She also did other things like impersonate the firefighter or be involved with the Catherine saga though those don't seem as significant as the classmate stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> :::I see what you are going for in the sense of Thetan posing as Chris's former classmates, but I still feel that making an entire saga around her is unnecessary. Maybe something along the lines of a &quot;Manchester High Reunion Saga&quot; would be a better option. [[User:Superspongebobbros|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros|talk]]) 19:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incest Saga ==<br /> <br /> Continuing [[:Template talk:Incest|from this talk page]], on second thought maybe we should split &quot;Incest&quot; to a sub-Saga called &quot;Incest Leak Drama&quot;? Leak Drama can house the tangential drama surrounding Bella/the Suitress/The WCT. Because those three weren't involved with the Incest itself so to label them as being part of the &quot;incest&quot; saga on their pages is a bit misleading. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I feel like the &quot;Incest Saga&quot; was always primarily about both the Incest itself, and partly the drama that surrounds it. Even though Bella and the Suitress weren't directly connected to him fucking his mom, I still feel they played a very crucial role in the saga in that the former had essentially recorded Chris admitting to the act, and that the latter had leaked the parts of the call, which subsequently led to his arrest. I guess the stuff on WCT is probably better suited for the &quot;Watchmen Saga&quot;? Anything that's not directly related to Chris should not be summarized under there. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 06:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, Bella/the Suitress were what caused the Incest saga to end. I guess if we keep the incest saga intact and not split it, the part on the tangential drama could just be deleted - the paragraph about Bella's damage control (which is mentioned on her/the Suitress articles anyway). I agree with the point about The WCT because he was acting as a Watchman when he tried asking Bella for her side of the story and ended up getting manipulated into her sideshow drama which isn't really directly related to Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Third Exile==<br /> <br /> Now that Chris has been transferred out of jail, should we consider renaming &quot;Jail Saga&quot; to the &quot;Third Exile&quot;? Because it doesn't seem we'll get that much out of the hospital. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 02:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is he still technically incarcerated, just at the hospital instead of a jail? He might return to the jail later. Maybe wait until whatever happens in July to clarify his situation. Or rename it now and rename it again in July if needed. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 13:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::In that case, I guess we can keep the name. If he goes back to jail, we can just add the date in which he's brought back. I just don't really see a &quot;Nuthouse Saga&quot; anytime soon. If by July he's still in the nuthouse, I say we rename it. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 14:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everfree Northwest ==<br /> <br /> At the moment, all of the stuff regarding Everfree is considered part of the Watchmen saga. I can't help but think we should move it to the Jacob saga, as a majority of the concerns regarding that event was about Jacob showing up there in disguise, and was basically the whole reason Chris asked Bella and the Suitress to accompany him. Any objections to this? [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 18:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds fine. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 21:36, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Nuthouse Saga Merge ==<br /> <br /> Should we merge the nuthouse saga with the jail saga? Given it was such a short period of time, I feel like it's more accurate to describe it as an event of the jail saga rather than it's own listed period of time, as well as it being covered on the [[Jail Saga]] page already. [[User:SodaSpring|SodaSpring]] ([[User talk:SodaSpring|talk]]) 05:44, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Freedom Saga ==<br /> <br /> The most recent saga in this page is entitled &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; which I named. The previous name for this saga was &quot;CWC Was Here Saga&quot; which I changed as I thought it was too long. There is currently no consensus on what the name of the saga that covers the 8 August 2023-Present should be so I choose &quot;Freedom Saga&quot; as an interregnum name. Does anyone have a better suggestion on what the name of this saga should be?<br /> :Both &quot;Freedom&quot; and &quot;Incognito&quot; are too vague and could be the name of other sagas. There are other sagas which have longer names then &quot;CWC Was Here&quot; such as the &quot;Nathaniel Greene&quot; or &quot;Leonard Bearstein&quot; sagas. The saga icon is a reference to {{w|Kilroy was here}}, which I think fits well. Another saga name could be &quot;Kilroy&quot; saga, but I think that would be too confusing. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 13:45, 27 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Offical Rename ==<br /> <br /> I just held a poll on the Offical CWCki Discord Server for what name to choose for the current saga, these were the results.<br /> <br /> CWC Was Here Saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Incognito saga - 1 Vote<br /> <br /> Freedom Saga - 7 Votes<br /> <br /> I think we have a very obvious favorite here, I propose an offical rename to the '''Freedom Saga'''. Stop changing it back to CWC Was Here Saga [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]], most people dislike the name. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 21:21, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I was unaware most people disliked it other than you and that other editor as when I messed up the previous saga name, everyone kicked off on reddit, which I did not see this time. I apologize. I think Incognito works the best, and it still with the saga icon. I will change it now. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 22:28, 30 August 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Merge incognito and third exile saga ==<br /> <br /> They really aren't too different. Incognito Saga still has loads of post-jail sightings that apparently aren't a part of that saga, and the page has an 'other sightings' part for no real reason. It should just be Third Exile saga with Chris becoming more active in the latter half of the saga. I think that would be a lot more simple. Also it should go from 27 March to 16 October, he seems to be actually returning now. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 19:04, 16 October 2023 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Christmas Saga? ==<br /> <br /> Over the past few days Chris has been talking about Chistmas on Twitter. He's predictably acting entitled and expecting his &quot;fans&quot; go shower him with gifts, he even hijacked Toys For Tots and made it about himself. Now this isn't new behavior out of Chris but I think this time is distinct because this is the first Christmas he'll have post jail and in his new position as Praetor's captive. I fully expect Chris to get more and more worked up about Christmas as it gets closer and he'll become more and more perfectionist. Those in the [[Unholy Tetrad]] will take notice, they always do, and given his Amazon wishlist tweet I fully expect weens to send a bunch of MLP G5 stuff to him. We don't need a crystal ball to see what happens next, Christmas will fall short of his expectations and he'll bitch about it be it on Youtube or Twitter. This has the potential to give us the first post-jail tard rage video.<br /> <br /> We're in for a lulzy Christmas that I believe will be quite notable.<br /> <br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 14:01, 14 December 2023 (EST)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=2024&diff=316879 2023-11-25T16:03:59Z

<p>Homsar: Aged like milk</p> <hr /> <div>'''2024''' is the seventeenth year since [[Chris]]'s discovery. This will be Chris's first full year not spent in jail, assuming he keeps his nose clean.<br /> <br /> 2024 will also mark the US presidential election: Chris is eligible to vote, because he was not found guilty of (or pleaded guilty to) [[incest]] charges.<br /> <br /> {{timeline}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Da_update&diff=316860 2023-11-24T21:45:27Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;center&gt;[[Image:CWCki News.png|320px]]&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;&gt;It is currently [[{{#time:F Y}}]]. It has been...<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:0 auto 8px; max-width:25rem;&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;vertical-align:top&quot;<br /> |&lt;!---<br /> LINK TO MOST RECENT SIGHTING <br /> --&gt;[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(November)|<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:2em&quot;&gt;{{counter|big=yes|&lt;!--<br /> <br /> DATE AND TIME OF LAST SIGHTING (UTC)<br /> --&gt;2023-11-24 20:14:00&lt;!--<br /> <br /> --&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;]] ''day(s) since Chris was last spotted in public.''<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;font-size:0.88em&quot;&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> We highly advise ''against'' seeking out Chris in any way.&lt;/center&gt;<br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Current Updates'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> *'''24 November''' - Chris '''[[Post-jail sightings (2023)#Walmart (November)|is seen]]''' after shopping at Walmart.<br /> *'''22 November''' <br /> **[[Kiwi Farms]] users manage to gather '''[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-1960#post-1721153 evidence]''' hinting at Chris living in a house bought by both a LLC and [[Caden Peck]].<br /> **Chris uploads '''[[Figure Painting]]'''.<br /> **OfficialCWCmart '''[[OfficialCWCmart#Commissions|lists]]''' commissions by Chris for sale.<br /> *'''20 November''' - Chris '''[[November 2023 livestreams#TBD|does a gaming livestream]]'''.<br /> *'''16 November''' - The '''[[Chaos Crystal Control Act 4 Art Series]]''' is uploaded to OfficialCWCmart.<br /> *'''14 November''' - Chris uploads '''[[Etsy Comments Review]]'''.<br /> *'''13 November''' - Chris '''[[November 2023 social media posts#Rant against incest fics|rants against]]''' the concept of [[incest]] fanfics involving himself. <br /> *'''11 November''' - Chris '''[[November 2023 social media posts#Duolingo|posts about multiple topics on X]]''' - Duolingo, his meal plan, and conventions.<br /> <br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Recently Uncovered Info'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> *'''17 November''' - [[The Place chats (April 2021)#Numerology Analysis|Numerology Analysis]] from [[April 2021]]<br /> *'''19 October''' - [[The Place chats (January 2021)#Cash from Praetor|Cash from Praetor]] from [[January 2021]]<br /> *'''24 September''' - [[The Place chats (January 2021)#Depression Over Reality|Depression Over Reality]] from [[January 2021]]<br /> *'''8 September''' - [[The Place chats - Jacob Sockness#Argument over Sockness, Iron Curtain clue|Argument over Sockness, Iron Curtain clue]] from [[October 2019]]<br /> *'''4 September''' - [[The Place chats (May 2021)#Chris and Relationships|Chris and Relationships]] from [[May 2021]]<br /> *'''7 August''' - [[Bella chats#Playing Games|Playing games with Bella]] from [[2020]]<br /> *'''6 August''' - [[The Place chats (August 2020)#Complaining about Dillin, encouraging Kyle to role-play|Complaining about Dillin, encouraging Kyle to role-play]] from [[August 2020]]. <br /> <br /> &lt;!--&lt;center&gt;''Only significant events are listed. For all current updates, visit [https://kiwifarms.net/forums/christian-weston-chandler.18/ Kiwi Farms].''&lt;/center&gt;--&gt;<br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is two lists of recent Chris-related activity, one for current updates, and another for newly added information. To prevent the lists becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added; '''no more than seven entries''' should appear in each of the lists at any time.<br /> <br /> To add new updates to the list, simply edit this template, and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Please also link to a source, and set it in '''boldface''', so viewers can know where to read further. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]]. Try to phrase things differently instead of always beginning entries with ''Chris does X''; it can get monotonous. Document the next milestone in Chris's legal proceedings (or when he is to be released from prison, should it come to this) in place of an Ongoing event.}}[[Category:Front page templates]] &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Weens&diff=316201 2023-11-12T19:17:41Z

<p>Homsar: /* Examples of weening */</p> <hr /> <div>{{quote|Are you 6-years-old or somethin'?|[[Bob Chandler]] outsmarting [[BlueSpike|a ween]] attempting to [[prank call]] Chris.}}<br /> {{quote|Don’t worry about those weens; you know you are safe around me and [[Polyamorous marriage|my Loves]]. 😊⚡️💙⚡️|Chris, attempting to persuade a fan weens won't hassle them at [[BronyCon]]&lt;ref&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20200226105210/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1020049863961120768&lt;/ref&gt;.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg|thumb|Encouraging other people to commit serious crimes is classic weenery.]]<br /> <br /> '''Weening''' or '''failtrolling''' is the act of attempting to troll someone, but ultimately failing at it the whole way through, and not receiving any significant results, typically due to inexperience with lolcow culture. The people that do this are often referred to as '''Weens''' (not to be confused with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ween the alternative rock band]). A corruption of the phrase &quot;epic win&quot;, weens are wannabe [[trolls]] who attempt to recreate the antics of prominent trolls, without being aware that there was much [[Chris and manipulation|manipulation]] behind the scenes to goad Chris into performing for the trolls, and therefore just embarrass themselves.&lt;ref group = &quot;note&quot;&gt;In many cases, the modern, albiet much more controversial, incarnations of prominent trolls have figured this out.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Think we're exaggerating? Maybe some videos will help get the point across.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;{{#ev:youtube|O4mkAw9Be-k}}<br /> {{#ev:archiveorg|youtube-4yUUi2Qco5Q}}&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Examples of weening==<br /> [[Image:epicweentrolling1.jpg|thumb|THIS IS WHAT WEENS ACTUALLY BELIEVE.]]<br /> [[File:Paying to ween.png|thumb|A ween pays Chris money on livestream in order to post shit he doesn't even read.]]<br /> [[File:ChangeorgGOPony2.jpg|thumb|A ween-made Change.org petition put in Chris's name.]]<br /> [[File:MeanKeanWeenSecondComing.png|thumb|An [[Post-jail sightings (2023)|obscene, less keen ween]] seen bein' like the mean Peen... unclean, and most likely fourteen.]]<br /> [[Image:Furniggersmustdie.jpg|thumb|Typical ween art.]]<br /> <br /> * Elaborate trolling plans that end up failing.<br /> * Falsely [[White knight|white-knighting]] Chris to befriend him and get whatever you want out of him. The [[CWCProtectSquad]] is a notorious example of this.<br /> * Prank-calling Chris. Double dumbass points if it's just to yell &quot;[[For Julie's Eyes Only|JULAAAY, JULAAAAAAY!]]&quot;, &quot;[[Ian Brandon Anderson|IAN BRANDON ANDERSON]]/[[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|SOMETHING]]!&quot;, or other ancient memes.<br /> * Prank takeaway deliveries under Chris' name and address. Not only is this just ''unfunny'' for anyone involved (on top of wasting both money and food), but numerous restaurants in Chris's area (namely Papa John's) have blacklisted his address precisely to prevent this.<br /> * A-Logging. While not all weens are A-Logs and vice versa, the two often overlap. [[A-Logging|A-Log]] himself was as much of a ween as your average A-Log in numerous ways.<br /> * Enabling Chris's fantastical beliefs. Chris's mind is already fucked up on its own merits, and people such as the Idea Guys have done more than enough in terms of mental damage on him. Once again, please note that although not all weens are enablers and vice versa, they tend to overlap. <br /> * Making fake [[Facebook]] and [[Twitter]] profiles of people Chris follows. <br /> * Spamming Chris's Facebook pages with random pictures of his old triggers to try and get a rise out of him; such as of [[pickles]], [[homos]] or [[Sonic]]'s redesign in ''[[Sonic Boom]]''.<br /> * Scathing e-mails, letters, or social media messages.<br /> * Butting into conversations Chris is having with other people online, especially if he isn't doing anything particularly wrong at the moment (which is almost 99% of the time). This was sadly way too common with the [[DoopieDoOver]] saga.<br /> * Attempting to contact people who once interacted with Chris but have since cut off all ties with him ([[Megan]], [[Cole]], [[the Wallflower]], [[Mary Lee Walsh]], [[Adam Stackhouse]], [[Michael Snyder]], etc.) and drag them back into the spotlight against their wishes.<br /> * Terrible fanfiction that &quot;wittily&quot; deconstructs ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and [[CWCville|where it takes place]] as a saccharine dystopia. Sorry folks, but ''[[Asperchu]]'', ''[[A Girl Who Brought Down the World]]'', ''[[Sonichu the Animated Series|Sonichu: The Animated Series]]'' and ''CWCollateral'' not only '''all''' already did this, but have also milked the concept for everything it's worth; it's time to move on.<br /> * Terrible fanfiction and fanart that focuses solely on murdering Sonichu characters, as seen in the picture below-right. Double dumbass points if focusing predominantly on the slaughter of [[Sonees and Roseys]].<br /> * Mass reporting in an attempt to get his social media accounts shut down.<br /> * Terrible fanart of ''Sonichu'' that attempts to be wittily macabre by making it even more [[Chris and art|grotesque]], [[Episode 21|gory]], or [[Episode 17|perverse]] than it already was.<br /> * Spouting tired old Chris memes in places where Christorians lurk, or even in places where most of the members don't even know about Chris. Either way, it's very annoying.<br /> * Making frivolous or exaggerated claims of Chris's misconduct in feedback on sites like [[eBay]] or [[YouTube]].<br /> * Spoiling Chris's legitimate attempts at doing [[Chris and art|commissions]] and participating in [[Chris and contests|contests]] or e-commerce.<br /> * [[April 2019 videos#Bonus! LACK OF Glitter Bombing. 🔥Epic Burn!🔥|Sending Chris a glitter bomb.]]<br /> * Sending letters for [[PewDiePie]] to Chris's address.<br /> * Making [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y87AvTrK9Dc terrible rap songs] about Chris.<br /> * [[TF2 Analysis|Harassing bronies whose content Chris enjoys into blocking him on Twitter.]]<br /> * [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/e3vdae/the_result_of_what_happened_when_i_tried_to/| Re-creating his Wikipedia page as a social experiment.] <br /> * Spamming his tweets with &quot;Where's the comics?&quot;. He's not going to respond, so don't even try.<br /> * It may be just plain sad to say, but even telling Chris to &quot;get a job&quot; has become ween lingo.<br /> * Hacking into Chris's YouTube account to upload a video of someone screaming &quot;JULAAAAY&quot;!<br /> * Sending letters to Chris while he's in jail to persuade him into saying or doing things while [[Messiah complex|under the belief he is Jesus]].<br /> * [[Jail Letter - 21 October 2021|Translating Ian Brandon Anderson into a writing system Chris doesn’t understand and telling him it’s a blessing in another language.]]<br /> * [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/49854/post-11683809 Writing a fake letter, claiming it to be sent by Chris in an undisclosed location, and directing it towards another lolcow.]<br /> * [https://reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/10k8nj3/chris_chan_porn_video_gofundme/ Funding a pornographic film about Chris.]<br /> * [[:File:9zkfdgibmrxa1.png|Leaving one-star reviews on places Chris has visited because Chris visited them.]]<br /> * [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/15oqgk7/christine_can_still_become_rich_and_live_a/ Suggesting Chris should start an OnlyFans.]<br /> * Making fake obituaries stating [[Barb]] or any other Christorical figures have died.<br /> * [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz/On_the_road_Part_II|Chasing down Chris after seeing him in public.]]<br /> * Bringing up the [[Affair with Mother]] during Chris’ livestreams.<br /> * Worst of all, [[Chris and the law|breaking the law]] and [[A-Logging#There.27s_no_legal_defense_over_attacking_Chris_for_real|needlessly risking a life-altering criminal record]] in pursuit of lulz. This includes, but is certainly not limited to; vandalizing or trespassing on Chris's [[14 Branchland Court|property]] (which includes egging his house), illegally recording telephone conversations, stalking and harassment of him, his mother and the rest of their extended family, stealing from them, [[Idea Guys|extortion]], or [[Death threats|threatening them]] with violence or even outright murder. This also applies to aiding and/or encouraging other weens or Chris himself to do so. '''We ''really'' shouldn't have to say it at this point, but for fuck's sake, ''DON'T DO ANY OF THIS.'''''<br /> <br /> == What weening is NOT ==<br /> As annoying and unhelpful as weening is, the term has ended up being severely misused by much of the CWCsphere, to the point where some consider it to be ''any'' form of interest or interaction at any point with Chris or the world relating to him and his misadventures. As such, it's important to keep in mind what actions are not considered the correct definition of the term:<br /> * Casual observation and discussion of Chris and his circumstances, in places (such as [[CWCki|this very wiki]], or [[Kiwi Farms]]) where they are permitted and/or actually relevant to the topic at hand.<br /> * Any trolling plan that actually succeeds to some extent; be it good or bad for Chris, original or cringey, et cetera.&lt;ref group=&quot;note&quot;&gt;About 99.9% of the time, this doesn't happen, so don't bother trying.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> * Asking [[FAQ|basic, repetitive Chris questions]] as a newbie. Regardless of if it's to do with recent events or those from the [[Christorical_eras#Classic_Trolling:_2007_to_2010|Classic Era]] and such, even the most devoted Christorians had to start somewhere. <br /> * Coming up with speculative Christory based on past and ongoing events.<br /> * Making fan media (art, fanfiction, animations, cosplay, etc.) of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' series]], so long as it's not excessively perverse, grotesque or intentionally poorly made, and you don't go out of your way to show it to Chris.<br /> * Helping to document and provide information on developments and occurrences in Chris's life as they come. The same goes for any corrections and confirmations (with appropriate evidence) of ambiguous and/or unconfirmed information.<br /> * Visiting public locations where Chris is well-known to have been or is otherwise associated with; such as the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]], [[The GAMe PLACe|Gearharts]], [[The End Games]] or [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]. Of course, this is so long as you don't try to failtroll or otherwise harass anyone for info on Chris. If you do visit these places, consider doing some good out of it as well by supporting them and the local community through donating to (if applicable) and/or purchasing from them. <br /> * Visiting [[14 Branchland Court]], so long as it doesn't involve illegally trespassing or trying to harass Barb or anyone who resides there.<br /> <br /> ==Arguments against trolling attempts==<br /> [[Image:REALChrisChanAndFriends.jpg|thumb|[[The Miscreants]], grateful to get away from all of the weens leeching off their hard work.]]<br /> <br /> Now, we know what you're thinking. You're not one of those try-hard [[BlueSpike|13-year old boys]] who still think that screaming &quot;'''JULAAAAAY!!!'''&quot; or &quot;'''IAN! BRANNON! SOMETHING!!!'''&quot; at Chris, spamming his Twitter with pickles, making and sending him badly-made parody comics, or trying to re-hash the [[Liquid Chris|Liquid Chris Saga]] is the height of wit. You've come up with a great plan to really get under Chris's skin, bring back the good old days and all that shit. However, &lt;del&gt;while you ''may'' in fact be that guy,&lt;/del&gt; 99.9% of the time, you should just shitcan your trolling plans and move on with your life.<br /> <br /> Why, you ask?<br /> <br /> ===The Chris of today is nothing like his former self===<br /> <br /> Chris has gone a long way since his internet debut on the Something Awful Forums. He has gone from a simple-minded man with child-like tendencies that made a bunch of [[Sonichu (comic)|comics which are so bad they're fascinating]], to a jaded, chronically-depressed and mentally-disturbed hippie that’s formed a small doomsday cult around said comics. <br /> <br /> It is important to note that Chris, although still very gullible and severely detached from reality, is (debatably) still a thinking person. Whatever gets him riled up nowadays ultimately depends on the time and situation. Therefore, a lot of [[Sonic Boom|the]] [[Pickle|commonly]] [[Homos|associated]] [[Asperger syndrome|triggers]] he may or may not have had some time ago will not necessarily transfer over to the present day.<br /> <br /> It should also be noted that, because of this change in perspective, trolling hits differently in this day and age than it did before Chris lost his father; which is incidentally the point where most of Chris's most famous trolls opted to leave him alone. The general culture around Chris-Chan himself has changed significantly as well; while past trolls like [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Liquid Chris]] were praised for a time, and are still fondly remembered and respected by those who don't see them as being as bad as Chris, the days of trolling Chris as the heteronormative, egoistical manchild have faded to trolling Chris as a mentally-ill, self-destructive, broken shell of a human being. The only people to really succeed in gaining infamy comparable to the trolls of the Classic Era – such as the [[Idea Guys]] and [[Jacob Sockness]] – are subsequently derided as the perverted, exploitative abusers that they are, rather than treated as internet legends.<br /> <br /> The irony in all of this is that most trolling attempts no longer phase Chris at all. And those that do somehow succeed are only viewed as [[Enablers|further support for his cult]]. Therefore, you should never expect to be [[The Miscreants|one of the cool kids]] just by failtrolling Chris. Times have changed, so it’s best to move onto better targets. This leads us into the next point.<br /> <br /> ===There are (and always will be) much better targets than Chris===<br /> If you're willing to put that much effort into trolling Chris, why not make yourself useful and apply that same effort to going after better victims? As much as the CWCki analyses and discusses in detail [[Tomgirl|his]] [[April 16 Fetish Vids|numerous]] [[Semen|odd]] [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|behaviors]] and [[Chris and his Ego|per]][[Chris and reality|son]][[Chris and hypocrisy|ali]][[Chris and Remorse|ty]] [[Chris and anger|fla]][[Chris and race|ws]], Chris doesn't even come ''close'' to the bottom of the barrel of internet scumbags. [[Beel|Neo-nazis]] and [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|other hate groups]], [[white knight|social justice warriors]], [[Blanca Weiss|abusive lovers]] and [[Barb|parents]], [[Joshua Martinez|scam artists]], [[pedofork|pedophiles]] and [[Zapina Rosechu|ephebophiles]], [[Allison Amber|corrupt]] [[Pmurt|politicians]] and [[4-cent_garbage.com|corporations]], [[Angelica Rosechu|religious zealots]], [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|zoophiles]] [[Clover and Snoopy|and other animal abusers]], [[Collosal Chris-Chan|hackers, script kiddies and malware writers/distributers]], [[JuggaloShoutOut|gang]] [[(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise|members]], [[Twin Falling Towers|terrorists and their online recruiters]], [[A-Logging|A-Logs]], [[Enablers]], and many other assorted shitbirds are much, ''much'' more deserving of concentrated trolling than Chris will ever be.<br /> <br /> Even if you don't give a shit who the trollbait is as long as you get Laughs Under Lucricities, the Chris of today just isn't as amenable to trolling as he used to be; as discussed beforehand. The amount of effort you would need to put into navigating around his paranoia and autistic sensibilities would be staggering to say the least. And even if you do manage to bypass these obstacles, ''what is there left to do to him?'' Anything amusing about him has already been exhausted, except the shit he does on his own initiative, also discussed further below. All that is left of him at this point is a withered husk of a lolcow; as much as you may try to milk it, you'll be hard-pressed not to get only cobwebs, dust and shrivelled dead insects in return. With that in mind, you may as well just spend your time on another lolcow who hasn't been inured to years of deceit and humiliation.<br /> <br /> For most aspiring trolls, the only reason to pick Chris over any other Internet jackass is because he's relatively well-known even today, and you have a ready-made audience available to appreciate your efforts. But that's just you being lazy, not some trolling mastermind.<br /> <br /> ===The Chris of today is not (quite) as gullible as he used to be===<br /> Granted, almost no one on Earth is as [[naïve]] as Chris was in 2007. However, since then Chris has gradually learned that when he's contacted by people claiming to be [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], [[Prank calls#Batman Call|Batman]], [[Vanessa Hudgens]], someone from his past, or [[Savannah Chandler|even his own relatives]], chances are he's just being trolled. In fact, the naivety of the younger Chris has been swapped for an extreme distrust of anyone who tries to contact him, to the extent where he's even turned down legitimate attempts to get in touch by people he actually knew at [[high school]] or [[college]].<br /> <br /> This hasn't been helped at all by weens; according to [[Seinor prom|seinor]] trolls, Chris was once contacted by ''10 people'' claiming to be Megan at the same time, all of them claiming to be the [[TRUE and HONEST]] Megan and telling him not to believe the others.<br /> <br /> Chris also vets those who try to bait him with fake social media accounts of people he follows. Weens tried this during the Doopie saga, only for Chris to embarrass them by thoroughly debunking their claims, complete with evidence.&lt;ref&gt;[[Misc texts#Fake Doopie profile]]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[[August 2017 tweets#Outsmarted a ween, with help of Kiwi Farms]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> As of today, Chris simply doesn’t care about whatever hackneyed, inane scheme you’ve come up with for him. Even the most persistent attempts at bribery don’t seem to affect him as much as they used to.<br /> <br /> ===Your idea is probably not original===<br /> [[File:NotLiquidComic.jpg|thumb|left|A tryhard trying to rehash Liquid Chris's success... somehow drawn even ''worse'' than ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' itself.]]<br /> Whatever your scheme is, it's probably been done before, and most likely better. It's pretty much impossible to top getting Chris to believe that the [[Miyamoto emails|President of Nintendo]] was interested in his work, or that there was a DANG, DIRTY IMPOSTER whom everyone else thought was the ''real'' Chris and stealing his richly deserved fame,&lt;ref group=note&gt;This idea worked once in the right circumstances, there's no need to repeat it now, where Chris believes he's a goddess and a reincarnate of Jesus.&lt;/ref&gt; or convincing Chris to [[The MovingFoward videos|destroy his own life upgrade on-camera]] in an attempt to claim [[Trollin Train|a $9,001 bounty that never actually existed]], or even simply pulling some strings to [[Bob Walks In|have Chris's father walk in on him masturbating]]. By and large, most modern trolling plans tend to be some incredibly minor variation on something that's already been done; like for example, ''&quot;what if we got his [[Amnyfest Ring|high school ring]]?&quot;'' or ''&quot;what if we got him to see another parody of his comic?&quot;''. In short, you're wasting your time trying to rehash older trolling events, because we've all seen it before. More importantly, so has Chris; so from experience, he very likely knows where you're going with it, too.<br /> <br /> ===Weenery discourages Chris from producing content===<br /> Chris is at his most productive when he believes he has lots of fans and everyone, barring a few trolls here and there, loves him. Most agree that weenery is detrimental to this strange, symbiotic relationship, and it is considered to be one of the predominant causes of the slump in content between 2011 and 2014. In that time, Chris entered a hiatus as a result of a combination of mourning for his [[Bob|then-recently deceased father]], and a constant stream of weenery over the years that made him think of himself as a victim who wouldn't be able to do anything without being harassed. As a result, he became far more private, meaning barely any content for us. Only four years after 2011 did he re-emerge from this hiatus.<br /> <br /> It is also worth mentioning that Chris produces much better content when left to his own devices. Since his semi-retreat from the public eye after his father's death and before he was jailed for [[Affair with Mother|incest]], Chris has been [[28 October 2011|prosecuted]] [[26 December 2014|twice]], concocted [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|outlandish conspiracy theories]] centered on [[Megan Schroeder|someone he hasn't spoken to for years]], [[10 January 2014|accidentally set fire to his house]], eventually continued working on the previously-unfinished [[Sonichu #11]] again, and [[Un-clit 2.0|sliced his own taint open with a knife]] as part of a hair-brained attempt to grow his own [[china]]; all of this without any impetus from the trolls. Likewise, let's not forget the entire [[Mary Lee Walsh]] saga (along with at least [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer|two]] [[University of Virginia#UVA student on Chris|different]] independent blogs of Chris' bizarre mannerisms and behaviors) happened before he even rose to fame. Don't try and rush the master of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favorite game]].<br /> <br /> ===If you fail hard enough, you will become a target for trolls yourself===<br /> [[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|During the [[Guard Dogs|Guard Dog]] [[saga]], [[Null]] saw to it that weens would face particularly aggressive responses if they attempted to lure Chris through e-mail.]]<br /> Anthony &quot;A-Log&quot; LoGatto is ''the'' textbook example of trolling backfiring on the would-be troll, and it's important to remember that he would never have attracted the attention of the internet if he had simply toned down the vitriol enough to make it less obvious that he was absolutely obsessed with Chris. It was thereafter a fairly obvious leap in intuition to assume that someone with that level of hysteria and monomania over someone they had never even met would have had some skeletons in their own closet; and as it turns out, A-Log had more than a few. These included terrible homemade yiff fanfiction featuring a [[pickle|tellingly moderately-endowed]] fox OC, a huge cache of disturbing cartoon Rule 34 (a noticeable portion of which included [[Pedofork|underage characters]]), a laughably-poor college radio show from which he almost got fired after being caught watching pornography in the studio, and a video where A-Log does an excruciatingly unfunny stand-up &quot;comedy&quot; bit, revolving almost entirely around attacking Chris and what the radio was playing at the time; all before a crowd who, judging by their reaction, had never even heard of Chris.<br /> <br /> Another more recent example of the same thing happening to a ween is the case of [[Michael Hirtes]]. After a myriad of sockpuppet accounts, spam messages to Chris and anyone he conversed with numbering in the thousands (mostly consisting of outdated memes and ''ad hominem'' attacks) and enough angry rants for him to ''also'' be described as being truly obsessed with Chris, it naturally led to some digging. Sure enough, Hirtes was revealed to be an unemployed furry who is even older at 53 years old, even less mature and more prone to [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] than Chris, and having a number of highly-embarrassing things to his name; including criminal convictions and a newspaper article of him in a fursuit discussing yiffing. Consequently, he became a huge laughing stock overnight; not only turning into a lolcow himself, but it even got to be the point where [[Michael Hirtes#Chris's view on Hirtes|Chris himself dismissed Hirtes, and by extension everything he'd done, as an irrelevance]].<br /> <br /> By the same token, obsessive and excessive weenery is dangerously likely to get you noticed by other trolls; who will, in turn, start trolling you because of that and anything else they notice about you, hoisting you on your own petard. In other words, it's akin to plugging in a huge neon sign pointing the trolls straight to your collection of ''[[Dragon Ball Z|Goku]] x Anne Frank'' slash fiction and boy band shrines.<br /> <br /> Even successful trolls can become targets: after several months manipulating Chris, the [[Idea Guys]] had their real-world identities exposed in the first half of [[2018]]. Between [[October 2017]] and [[March 2020]], [[Kiwi Farms]] officially encouraged users to &lt;abbr title=&quot;Publish identifying information, such as home addresses.&quot;&gt;dox&lt;/abbr&gt; weens as a deterrent.&lt;ref&gt;[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/lunatics-who-attack-a-mentally-handicapped-person.35124/ Lunatics who attack a mentally handicapped person: Your name here]&lt;/ref&gt; Several would-be weens have been foiled this way, and the effects have possibly spread into their real lives. Chris himself has also carelessly exposed those who try to interact with him while remaining anonymous.&lt;ref&gt;[[Other enablers#Sarah and Steven]]&lt;/ref&gt; Remember, there is an [[Special:ActiveUsers|energetic community]] devoted to recording every facet of Chris's life and interactions. '''You ''will'' be noticed''', and as covered in more detail below; the attention you'll end up receiving will likely be the undesirable kind, even if you ''do'' somehow catch Chris's attention.<br /> <br /> Due to her edgy behavior, [[A-logging]] directed towards Chris, her attempts at being a Chris troll, attempts at weening Chris, and the bullying of other students at her university; [[Bella]] has been deemed one of Chris's most corrupt trolls due to unproven claims regarding her interactions with Chris being propagated, and is widely disgraced by the greater CWCsphere as a result.<br /> <br /> ===Even if you do succeed, you will likely regret it later===<br /> {{quote|Chris-Chan is — he’s an enigma which to so many people — [[CWCki:Frequently Asked Questions#Trolling|they thought he was a troll]]. Because they’re like, “there’s no way this motherfucker is real”, because he’s like, the saddest human being ever. And it’s SAD because it’s like… I spent four years of my life fucking with him, and people are like, “bring it back!”. And I’m like, “NO! LET IT DIE”. It’s like, depressing — it’s not the golden age — it’s the depressing age.|Spazkid, on the unwanted attention he receives from weens to this day.}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|There's been tons of things in my life I've regretted and hated doing later on, [[Saga#Julie Saga .28February - March 2009.29|all of the stuff from 10 years ago]] was one of them. I've moved past everything that happened those many years ago and obviously I'm a different person now. It wasn't funny and was a very a-log thing to do. Nothing much else I can say.|[[BlueSpike]], reflecting on his time since the Julie Saga.}}<br /> <br /> All too often, trolls that do somehow manage to succeed in extracting lulz from Chris end up getting more than they bargained for. For example, Spazkid stopped making ''[[Sonichu the Animated Series]]'' when he began to pity Chris and realized he wasn't worth trolling (on top of a lot of unseen drama involved with the series' writers and voice actors), but still regularly finds himself, as seen above, hounded by obsessive weens and A-Logs to keep making it against his wishes. Liquid Chris may have to spend a long time fending off accusations from people outside of the Chris-Chan bubble of tormenting an [[slow-in-the-minds|emotionally vulnerable autistic man]] for his own amusement. BlueSpike will turn 30 someday, and even then will still be thought of as the crazed, sadistic pervert who, [[Pedofork|at the age of 13]], willingly listened to a 27-year-old [[CWC Cums for a Cat|masturbate repeatedly for]] [[Bob Walks In|hours on end]] and [[Julie reveals herself|forced him to shove a broken clay medallion up his ass]]; even after [[BlueSpike#Today|he has since considerably matured and openly shown remorse for his previous actions]]. The Idea Guys may have to deal with many long-term legal troubles one day for manipulating a mentally-handicapped man into abusing himself and extorting frivolities and large sums of money from him; all for a stupid, cruel joke that amused no one but themselves. <br /> <br /> To add to the irony, people who didn't intentionally upset Chris are still getting unwanted attention from weens. Do you think [[Adam Stackhouse]] enjoys being inundated by various unwanted ''&quot;you prevented Chris from raping Megan, congrats!&quot;'' messages in his e-mail inbox, especially since [[Adam Stackhouse#Adam revisited|he openly made peace with Chris in 2018?]] Or that [[Mary Lee Walsh]] appreciates seeing herself as a nubile anime blonde who exists solely to torment a [[virgin with rage]] every time she or her students uses Google? Or that [[Michael Snyder]] likes being constantly reminded by weens of [[28 October 2011|being harassed and hit by a car]] through misguided attempts to praise him, or [[The_GAMe_PLACe#Today|being tormented about said events, almost ''a decade'' later, on the guestbook of his own father's funeral?]] In all of these cases, the answer is a big, fat '''NO'''.<br /> <br /> ===There is absolutely nothing left to gain from Chris or the community surrounding him===<br /> What is probably the most simple grounds of all to not ween is also the most important for a number of reasons. <br /> <br /> As seen above, not only does Chris no longer have amusing reactions to anything that comes his way as in the past, he is no longer in any position ([[Chris and reality|or ''condition'', for that matter]]) to produce more art, comics or commissions for people to look forward to, and can no longer be considered someone to (even ironically) root for, ever since his fall from being a comedic and sometimes morally-questionable but mostly harmless buffoon into a truly indefensible and disturbing individual. Apart from what he sporadically writes or rambles about in his [[Prison communications|letters and phone calls from jail]], the wellspring of anything truly fascinating, endearing or amusing about him has long since run dry. Ever since Chris has been known to have had [[Affair with Mother|sexual relations with his own mother]], Weening and A-Logging are considered to be especially pathetic; [[A-Logging#The_legal_system_will_deal_with_Chris|the law itself will now officially deal with Chris properly]] (as opposed to a rag-tag lynch mob of idiots on the internet; who now, by-and-large, have no access to him anymore regardless), and [[A-Logging#Being better than Chris is not and never has been an achievement|the need to prove oneself as superior]] to or [[Enablers#Getting_sucked_into_drama_surrounding_Chris|otherwise be associated with]] an obese, unrepentant sex offender with [[Messiah complex|a rapidly-flatlining grip on sanity]] reeks of desperation for attention now more than it ever has. <br /> <br /> All of this isn't even getting to the likely results of trying to ween or otherwise going out of your way to coax reactions or information from Chris nowadays. Not only do you have [[Kiwi Farms|the active Chris-Chan community]] who are more than willing to come after most wannabes who attempt to do so, but also how the consequences will, in such circumstances, very likely end up spreading into your actual life; as has been seen on numerous occasions. Even without going in with the intention to troll, fan documentaries and information sources (such as [[CWCki|this very wiki]]) already extensively cover Chris and his life, and when new events and such occur, it's more than likely already covered by them without you needing to dig too deeply. <br /> <br /> That said, if you do have worthwhile information, corrections and confirmations of such to provide, then by all means do so. The same applies for items such as ''Sonichu''-related fan media, [[Enablers#Joining_the_creative_community_surrounding_Chris|on the condition that they're kept well away from the man himself]]. But you should always keep in mind that however you choose to go about it, with so much to potentially lose and so little to gain — if anything at all — '''obsessing over and trying to get directly involved with Chris nowadays just isn't worth it.'''<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[A-Logging]]<br /> *[[Enablers]] <br /> *[[Michael Hirtes]], an infamous ween.<br /> *[[Isabella Loretta Janke]], the prime example of how attempted trolling can backfire.<br /> <br /> {{Notes}}<br /> {{References}}<br /> {{Articleofthenow}}<br /> {{Unholy}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Trolling]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Bluespike)&diff=315706 2023-11-04T15:00:16Z

<p>Homsar: Created page with &quot;===True and Honest?=== I’ve heard in some circles (mainly r/chrischansonichu) that this isn’t actually Bluespike but some guy just pretending, with KF acting like he’s legit as an inside joke. ~~~~&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>===True and Honest?===<br /> I’ve heard in some circles (mainly r/chrischansonichu) that this isn’t actually Bluespike but some guy just pretending, with KF acting like he’s legit as an inside joke. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 11:00, 4 November 2023 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Social_media&diff=314833 2023-10-22T22:59:25Z

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Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=October_2023_Facebook_Posts&diff=314831 2023-10-22T22:56:07Z

<p>Homsar: Created page with &quot;{{see also|October 2023|Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021}} This page is a partial archive of Chris's major Facebook posts during October 2023. Posts are sorted by date. Notable comments will be included and color-coded for reference. {{quotebox|File:2023Facebook.png}}&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>{{see also|October 2023|Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021}}<br /> This page is a partial archive of Chris's major [[Facebook]] posts during [[October 2023]]. Posts are sorted by date. Notable comments will be included and color-coded for reference.<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[[File:2023Facebook.png]]}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=File:2023Facebook.png&diff=314830 2023-10-22T22:54:51Z

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Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flutter&diff=314426 2023-10-18T13:20:48Z

<p>Homsar: Created page with &quot;===Proposing a Flutter policy=== It’s no secret that Christorians have bad actors amongst their ranks. It’s only a matter of time someone figures out her identity. Given that Chris met her in Lynchburg it’s highly likely she’s mentally handicapped in some capacity due to Chris living in a group home during the time he was located there. So since she’s likely to be an innocent bystander I think we should adopt a wallflower style policy for if/when her identity i...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>===Proposing a Flutter policy===<br /> It’s no secret that Christorians have bad actors amongst their ranks. It’s only a matter of time someone figures out her identity. Given that Chris met her in Lynchburg it’s highly likely she’s mentally handicapped in some capacity due to Chris living in a group home during the time he was located there. So since she’s likely to be an innocent bystander I think we should adopt a wallflower style policy for if/when her identity is revealed by either a ween or Chris himself.<br /> <br /> Given what recently happened with the suitress policy we should also be willing to revoke it if we later find out she actually has trollish intent.<br /> [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 09:20, 18 October 2023 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Flutter&diff=314425 2023-10-18T13:13:51Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Infobox Person<br /> | title = Flutter<br /> | name = Unknown <br /> | date of birth = ~1993 (age 30)<br /> | image = Flutter.png<br /> | aliases = Egg&lt;br&gt;Meryl&lt;br&gt;Food Lion Lady&lt;br&gt;Cabbage Patch Kid<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Flutter''' (born c. 1993) is the nickname [[Chris]] gave to a woman he's friends with, due to her liking the [[My Little Pony]] character Fluttershy. She got in touch with Chris in jail through unknown means, though most likely through letters. After Chris got out, he met up with her at Lynchberg, and they begun hanging out together. Despite speculation otherwise, Chris has described the two of them as just friends, in a shocking change from [[Friend zone|earlier friends of Chris]], who he desperately wanted to date. Chris also revealed that she's in her 30s, despite her child-like appearance<br /> <br /> After Chris's release from jail, he was frequently [[Post-jail sightings|photographed]] by people who managed to spot him in public. In [[September 2023]], he began getting sighted with Flutter. Chris followers started theorizing about her, with some thinking she was a child due to her appearance, others thinking she was a social worker. On the 17th, she was spotted allegedly [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS|making out with Chris at a CVS]], causing many people to believe she was his girlfriend. [[Otaku King]] also claimed that the two of them were a couple. These rumors were disputed by Chris in [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]], where Chris claimed that they were just friends.<br /> <br /> ==Sightings==<br /> {{main|Post-jail sightings (2023)}}<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Food_Lion|4 September 2023]], Chris was spotted talking with Flutter at a coinstar machine. This was the first time she was sighted, and earned her the nickname &quot;Food Lion Lady&quot;.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Sheetz/On_the_road_Part_II|9 September 2023]], a [[ween]] stalked Chris in his car. Reportedly, Flutter was in the car with Chris, and the ween remarked that she looked like a child.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(September)|16 September 2023]], she was spotted with Chris at [[Walmart]]. This was the first clear view of her face.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#CVS|17 September 2023]], Chris was sighted allegedly hugging, touching and ''kissing'' Flutter at a CVS. On the 20th, the sighter posted two ''incredibly'' blurry pictures of Chris hugging and kissing her. While Chris is easy to see, Flutter is incredibly hard to see. The sighter also made multiple comments about her.<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[Chris] was all over that woman. Just kept touching her and had her hand on the back almost the whole time. She doesn’t look young.}}<br /> {{quotebox|She 100 percent looked uncomfortable.}}<br /> {{quotebox|She seemed uncomfortable and kept her head down mostly. I can’t say whether she was just uncomfortable or if she was low functioning.}}<br /> {{quotebox|Seemed like he was kind of leading the shopping trip. He also was very close to her at all times. Co-Worker asked if they needed help Chris made sure to step so that he was between my Co-Worker and the girl.}}<br /> {{quotebox|She paid.}}<br /> <br /> These comments have yet to be confirmed as fact.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Undisclosed_parking_lot|19 September 2023]], Chris supposedly walked into a game store with her.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#River_Ridge_Mall|1 October 2023]], Chris was spotted showing something on his device to her at River Ridge Mall . This was the clearest view of her face yet.<br /> <br /> On [[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Game_Junkies|3 October 2023]], Flutter was seen waiting in a car while Chris was shopping at Game Junkies.<br /> &lt;center&gt;<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Foodlionflutter.png|At Food Lion<br /> File:Walmartflutter.png|At Walmart<br /> File:Flutter.png|At River Ridge Mall<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> &lt;/center&gt;</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:BootlegsATrolley&diff=314290 2023-10-17T13:48:24Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{banned}}<br /> winner<br /> <br /> number one liquid christine fan<br /> {{userbox<br /> |box-border-col= #purple<br /> |box-bg-col= #FFCEFF<br /> |id-bg-col= #FFCEFF<br /> |id-border-col= #FFCEFF<br /> |info-col= #purple<br /> |info-bg-col= #FFCEFF<br /> |info-border-col = #FFCEFF<br /> |id= [[Image:Homo symbol.png|50px|Homo]]<br /> |info= '''Homo'''&lt;br/&gt;This user is a [[homo|homosexual]] and likes [[pickles]]. [[Magi-chan#Outside_Of_The_Comics|Magi-Chan]] is watching you [[mass debate|masturbate]].}}<br /> {{userbox<br /> |box-border-col= #BB133E<br /> |box-bg-col= #002664<br /> |id-bg-col= #193b73<br /> |id-border-col= #002664<br /> |info-col= #fff<br /> |info-bg-col= #345284<br /> |info-border-col = #002664<br /> |id= [[Image:American flag.png|55px|American Flag]]<br /> |info= '''Americunt''': This user is an Americunt and refuses to use unnecessary vowels. Uncle Sam would be proud!}}<br /> {{userbox<br /> |box-border-col= #0000FF<br /> |box-bg-col= #fff<br /> |id-bg-col= #fff<br /> |id-border-col= #fff<br /> |info-col= #000000<br /> |info-bg-col= #fff<br /> |info-border-col = #fff<br /> |id= [[Image:Star of David.svg.png|40px|Star of David]]<br /> |info= '''Jew'''&lt;br/&gt;This user is a [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|JEW!]] Unlike [[Chris_and_race#Jews|Chris]], the &lt;br&gt;CWCki likes Jewish people.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;Mazel tov!&lt;/center&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox<br /> |box-border-col= #000<br /> |box-bg-col= #006600<br /> |id-bg-col= #000<br /> |id-border-col= #006600<br /> |info-col= #fff<br /> |info-bg-col= #009900<br /> |info-border-col = #000000<br /> |id= [[File:2008ChrisSummary.PNG|50px|2008]]<br /> |info= ''Misses Old Chris''&lt;br/&gt;This user misses Chris's old shenanigans, and never wanted it to [[Bob Chandler#Later life, poor health and death|get]] [[2014 house fire|this]] [[Idea Guys|fucking]] [[Affair with Mother|depressing]].}}<br /> {{userbox<br /> |box-border-col= #0000FF<br /> |box-bg-col= #00000<br /> |id-bg-col= #193b73<br /> |id-border-col= #DF0101<br /> |info-col= #fff<br /> |info-bg-col= #DF0101<br /> |info-border-col = #DF0101<br /> |id= [[Image:CWCVilleTrueFlag.png|55px|TRUE and HONEST Flag of the Workers' Party of CWCville]]<br /> |info= '''Workers' Party of CWCville''': This user is a member of the Workers' Party of [[CWCville]]. Praise the TRUE and HONEST leader; [[Christian Weston Chandler]].}}<br /> {{userbox<br /> |box-border-col= #000000<br /> |box-bg-col= #964B00<br /> |id-bg-col= #964B00<br /> |id-border-col= #964B00<br /> |info-col= #000000<br /> |info-bg-col= #CD7F32<br /> |info-border-col = #964B00<br /> |id= [[Image:CChanSonichuCWC.jpg|70px|Liquid]]<br /> |info= '''Liquid Chris'''&lt;br/&gt;This user believes in [[Liquid Chris|the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler]].}}<br /> {{AlecBensonLeary}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lukas,_Devil_and_Eva&diff=313919 2023-10-03T14:11:14Z

<p>Homsar: /* Rename? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Merge Saga or TTS Saga? == <br /> <br /> Are the TTS the originators of the Dimensional Merge shit or they just encouraging Chris to continue believing it? Either way, we ought to combine these two articles: [[Dimensional Merge]] and [[Teen Troon Squad]] <br /> ::Nah, they should be separate, one page should describe the event itself and the other should describe the Squad as a whole. Additionally, the Dimensional Merge has more of an Idea Guy influence, TTS simply picked up where they left. Also SIGN YOUR POST! -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 18:14, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> ::: All right! Thanks for the clarification -[[User:Galilean|Galilean]] ([[User talk:Galilean|talk]]) 18:21, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I did a massive rehaul of the article. ==<br /> <br /> Let me know if I'm missing anything. Dug through a lot of old sources. Plz nominate article of the now lol - Thnxbb<br /> <br /> Well one thing I did notice is that you referred to Lukas as &quot;he&quot; but Lukas is actually a &quot;she&quot;. A really ugly 'she' but indeed a she - moppo.moose<br /> <br /> Great work expanding the article. The person in the cropped avatar is Devil. Lukas is the one with the red streak in her hair (the Sonichu Chris made of Lukas also has that red streak). I think it may be worth noting that the quotes from Lukas... the &quot;smells like cat piss&quot; and &quot;He would kiss on us, hug us, rub on us&quot;... are likely just an attempt at damage control and throwing Chris under the bus to get people to leave the Squad alone. It wouldn't make sense if those were true, because Lukas invited him over multiple times - if they really had such a problem with his body odor or him being rapey, they'd have broken off contact instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:12, 18 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks; and got it. Will update now.[[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 13:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Template ==<br /> <br /> I think we should have a template for the Oct, Nov, Dec 2018 social media pages to note that the TTS had access to Chris's Twitter so tweets may have been written by them. Something like, &quot;Troll disclosure: this article takes place when the [[Teen Troon Squad]] had access to Chris's [[Twitter]] and trolled him by signing in and posting inflammatory tweets.&quot; [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:53, 30 May 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rename? ==<br /> <br /> There's talk in the CWCki Server about possibly renaming Teen Troon Squad to something that doesn't involve slurs. Thoughts? Alternate names suggested are [[Teen Trans Squad]] or [[Lukas, Devil, and Eva]]. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:56, 3 October 2023 (EDT)<br /> :I want to keep the TTS initials so maybe &quot;Teen Troll Squad&quot; ? [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 10:11, 3 October 2023 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=DeviantART&diff=312212 2023-09-01T02:19:30Z

<p>Homsar: Core costs money</p> <hr /> <div>{{taxpayermoney}}<br /> {{quote|This account will mainly be used to get in touch with [[Good Fan Art|choice Fan Artists]].|~ Cwcipedia dA Journal, on why the comments are disabled in all of Chris's pictures.}}<br /> <br /> '''deviantART''' is a large online art community where artists can host their artwork, and receive comments and critique from fellow artists and art appreciators. Being one of the most popular amateur art websites in the world, deviantART attracts the best and the worst of us. Especially the worst. In the [[Troll|trolling]] world, deviantART is notorious as a den for ''[[Sonic]]'' [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon|recolors]] and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|poorly drawn porn]], so it's no surprise that [[Chris]] became a member.<br /> <br /> == Chris's deviantART accounts ==<br /> ===Sonichu===<br /> Established 28 December [[2005]] and banned in early September 2008, presumably for pornographic artwork.<br /> <br /> ===SonichuSite===<br /> Established 19 September [[2008]]. Permabanned for a kinda nebulously defined failure, likely the blatant pornography from [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]]. In his next account's Journal, Chris said he [[Naive|has no idea]] [[Chris and remorse|why he was banned]]. Reading comprehension is apparently not part of [[Honor Roll|the most prestigious reaches of American education]].<br /> <br /> Chris's greeting for this account (available via WaybackMachine):<br /> {{quotebox|'''Mood:''' Joy&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Listening to:''' [[Chris and music|Lite Rock, Z-95.1]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Reading:''' My [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]] as I draw them, or feeling [[Chris and English|Nestolgic]].&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Watching:''' [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], [[Family Guy]], [[Anime]], etc.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Playing:''' [[Guitar Hero]] and Sonic on [[Playstation 3]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Eating:''' [[Chris and health|Healthy Choice TV Entres]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Drinking:''' Pepsi Cola (Similar Formula found in [[CWC Cola]])&lt;br&gt;<br /> Greetings, my Loayal [[Sonichu]] &amp; [[Rosechu]] [[Fans]]. Christian Weston Chandler is the Official Owner of this page, and I am here to tell you the news of this page.<br /> <br /> The Main Reason I am uploading the Sonichu &amp; Rosechu Fanart, more than my Original and Official stuff, is because this DeviantART account is to be the Official Sonichu &amp; Rosechu FanArt Section for Sonichu.net.<br /> <br /> I am thinking of backing up my Comic Book Pages, as well as More Original Art on here in the future. But For Now, this is Basically For FanArt. So enjoy the other people's work I have been mostly delighted to find and have received.<br /> <br /> Just a reminder that if you'd like to offer a submission to the FanArt Secion of your own, you may create your own deviantART account and upload it or them, or you may e-mail me your FanArt at ChrisChanSonichu@aol.com.<br /> <br /> Peace to all my Loyal Sonichu &amp; Rosechu Fans.<br /> Christian W. Chandler.}}<br /> <br /> ===CWCipedia===<br /> Used while the [[CWCipedia]] was down. The account was opened 9 [[August 2009]] and closed on the 28th for evasion of the previous ban and posting erotic artwork featuring underage characters (which is to say, [[Rosechu]]'s washing machine pic from [[Sonichu 9|Episode #20]] – it was actually deleted before the account was banned completely).<br /> <br /> Chris's greeting for this account (available via WaybackMachine):<br /> {{quotebox|I am Christian Weston Chandler; born on February 24, 1982 as Christopher, then [[Christopher's name change|changed my first name]] in 1989.<br /> <br /> I am the True, Original Creator of Sonichu and Rosechu, the Electric-Hedgehog Pok'emon (I created him on March 17, 2000 with MY Copyrights on EVERY Image, as well as FULL Comic Books); Accept NO Substitute.<br /> <br /> I had an array of CWC Sites before; [[CWC's Pokésite 2|CWC's Pok'eSite 2]], [[CWC's Pokésite 2#Now in Spanish|El Pok'eSite de RWC]], and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the ORIGNIAL Sonichu Site known as [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|CWC's Sonichu Site]], which was a spin-off from CWC's Pok'eSite 2.<br /> <br /> I had to take the websites down June, 2009, because my Internet Bullies/Trolls hacked into my Webmaster accounts. But I am Back In The Saddle with [[Cwcipedia]]; the NEW, Official CWC's Sonichu &amp; Rosechu Site.<br /> <br /> [link]<br /> <br /> I will put up a sampling of THE Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawings from myself onto this account, but I have opened this new account up, because...<br /> <br /> -My past SonichuSite account was permanently Banned; I forgot why.<br /> <br /> -This account will mainly be used to get in touch with choice Fan Artists.}}<br /> <br /> ===NightStarRosechu2891===<br /> Chris used the account to like fanart. In [[September 2017]], Chris announced on Twitter that he wished to find the name of the artist who had drawn a fan comic he had referenced in ''[[Sonichu 12]]'', also mentioning that he had been searching DeviantART for it.&lt;ref&gt;[[September 2017 tweets#Chris hunts for the artist of fanart he plagarized]]&lt;/ref&gt; [[The Sergeant at Arms]] sent a DM to the NightStarRosechu2891 account, informing about the comic.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:The Sergeant at Arms DM - 23 September 2017.png]]&lt;/ref&gt; Chris then announced on Twitter that he had an answer.<br /> <br /> The &quot;About&quot; profile reads:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|Artist // Professional // Varied<br /> <br /> Birthday Feb 24<br /> <br /> United States<br /> <br /> [[Transgender|She / Her]]<br /> <br /> Favourite Movies<br /> <br /> [[Mary Poppins]], Meet Me In St. Louis<br /> <br /> Favourite TV Shows<br /> <br /> [[My Little Pony]], [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], [[Pokemon]]<br /> <br /> Favourite Bands / Musical Artists<br /> <br /> [[Britney Spears]], Daniel Ingram}}<br /> <br /> ====Post-jail====<br /> {{Protip|Chris, like previously stated in this article, doesn't consider DeviantArt to be a &quot;social&quot; platform. He will not respond to your comments, and will most likely disable such as soon as he sees fit.}}<br /> On 23 [[August 2023]], Chris dumped a large amount of artwork, including two new drawings, previously unreleased art drawn during his stay at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]], many of his old custom [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder]] cards, and several newly-colored ''[[Sonichu 15]]'' (renamed to ''[[Sonichu 0 HD]]'') comic pages, onto NightStarRosechu2891, an account he had held for five years without announcement.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.deviantart.com/nightstarrosechu2891/gallery&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Below is a gallery of newly-released artwork. Some versions of the art had been previously released from the [[Praetor Jail Art]]. &quot;[[Sonichu 82|Sonichu Book 82]] Cover&quot; has a date of [[April 2023]], after his release from jail.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Chris chan and hedgehog zaps at royal albert hall by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6oftf-pre.jpg|&quot;Chris Chan and Hedgehog Zaps at Royal Albert Hall&quot;<br /> File:Christ chan prime with the ultimate emerald core by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ocv2-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Christ Chan Prime with the Ultimate Emerald Core&quot;<br /> File:Christ chan and god emmanuel at the universe core by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6octc-pre.jpg|&quot;Christ Chan and God Emmanuel at the Universe Core&quot;<br /> File:Cpu goddess blue heart keep faith and no doubt by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ocqe-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;CPU Goddess Blue Heart - Keep Faith and No Doubt&quot;<br /> File:Cryzel rosechu and sylvana rosechu by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ofao-pre.jpg|&quot;Cryzel Rosechu and Sylvana Rosechu&quot;<br /> File:D and d dimension cs 89 blake sonidemaru by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ofkm-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;D and D Dimension CS-89 Blake Sonidemaru&quot;<br /> File:Dancing at the flashzap by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6of6d-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Dancing at the flashzap&quot;<br /> File:Goddess at work by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6od9g-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Goddess At Work&quot;<br /> File:Grand elder magi chan sonichu by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ofhx-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Grand Elder Magi-Chan Sonichu&quot;<br /> File:Holy jesus christ chan sonichu prime by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6od4d-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Holy Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime&quot;<br /> File:Lady magic sonichu magi chan self counterpart by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ofh3-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Lady Magic Sonichu - Magi-Chan Self-Counterpart&quot;<br /> File:Image_(9).png|&quot;Magi-Chan and I around 1218 neurotypical sheeple&quot;<br /> File:Magi chan welcomes me by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6of9q-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Magi-Chan Welcomes Me&quot;<br /> File:Meditative angelica rosechu by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ofbw-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Meditative Angelica Rosechu&quot;<br /> File:Meditative jesus christ chan sonichu prime by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ocrn-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Meditative Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime&quot;<br /> File:Neo spiritual christianity crucifix cutie mark by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6of8c-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Neo Spiritual Christianity Crucifix Cutie Mark&quot;<br /> File:Sonicha sonichu the 1st and rossen rosechu the 1st by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ofe5-414w-2x.jpg|&quot;Sonicha Sonichu the 1st and Rossen Rosechu the 1st&quot;<br /> File:1692903194063.jpeg|&quot;Sonichu Book 82 cover&quot;<br /> File:Sonichu and rosey at cwcville cyan master emerald by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6od25-pre.jpg|&quot;Sonichu and Rosey at Cwcville Cyan Master Emerald&quot;<br /> File:Sonichu prime and rosey rosechu prime by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6ocwi-pre.jpg|&quot;Sonichu Prime and Rosey Rosechu Prime&quot;<br /> File:Sonichu temple of ruckersville in cwcville va by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6od5t-pre.jpg|&quot;Sonichu Temple of Ruckersville in Cwcville, VA&quot;<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> Chris also released colorized versions of several [[Sonichu 15]] pages, also retitling the issue to #0 HD.<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd cover by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o1j5-pre.jpg<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd page 14 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o2cw-pre.jpg<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd page 16 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o2hd-pre.jpg<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd page 17 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o2kg-pre.jpg ‎<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd page 18 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o2mr-pre.jpg ‎<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd page 24 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o2r9-pre.jpg ‎<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd page 35 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o2uo-pre.jpg ‎<br /> File:Sonichu book 0 hd page 49 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o2x8-pre.jpg ‎<br /> File:Sonichu book0 hd page 52 by nightstarrosechu2891 dg6o30d-pre.jpg ‎<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> These were Chris's first social media posts since his [[arrest]].<br /> <br /> In late August, Chris subscribed to the Core program on DeviantART.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:NightStarRosechu2891 Core.png]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Chris's use of deviantART ==<br /> As in the case of [[YouTube]] and [[Wikipedia]], Chris really doesn't understand the point of the website, and all of the finer community aspects of the website flew right over his head. He regarded deviantART as a place to dump his images into, disabled comments, and completely disregarded all comments he received through his userpage. His stated goal was to &quot;get in touch with choice Fan Artists,&quot; but with his usual attitude of &quot;I post images, others listen,&quot; we have no idea how this would have worked. In other words, Chris operated just like many other ''Sonic'' recolorists who ended up on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], only that he didn't even allow ''praising'' comments to be posted.<br /> <br /> == True and Honest Fans ==<br /> In CWCipedia's &quot;Communities&quot; page, Chris listed &quot;SonichuFanclub&quot; as an officially sanctioned ''[[Sonichu]]'' dA community.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://sonichu.deviantart.com/ Sonichu]: Chris's first account – '''DOWN'''<br /> *[http://web.archive.org/web/20090203144307/http://sonichusite.deviantart.com/ SonichuSite]: Chris's second account<br /> *[http://web.archive.org/web/20090824171342/http://cwcipedia.deviantart.com/ Cwcipedia]: Chris's third account<br /> *[https://www.deviantart.com/nightstarrosechu2891 NightStarRosechu2891]: Chris's fourth and current account<br /> *[http://sonichufanclub.deviantart.com/ SonichuFanclub]: &quot;Official&quot; fanart<br /> {{References}}<br /> {{CWCWasHereSaga}}<br /> {{The Internet}}<br /> [[Category:Websites]]<br /> [[Category:Chris's websites]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Da_update&diff=310624 2023-08-13T18:57:15Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;center&gt;[[Image:CWCki News.png|320px]]&lt;br&gt;It is currently [[{{#time:F Y}}]].&lt;/center&gt;<br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Current Updates'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> *'''12 August''' - Chris's PlayStation profile description is changed to say '''[[:File:PSN profile change 12 August 2023.png|&quot;I'm Christ Chan Prime&quot;]]''' . That same day he DM’d a redditor through the PlayStation app stating that '''[[:File:SonichuLeft.jpeg|”Sonichu Left”]]'''.<br /> *'''11 August'''<br /> **A small update is made to Chris's case file, noting that '''[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 11 August 2023 - Pleadings-Orders.png|the defense had entered unspecified exhibits]]''' on 8 August.<br /> **Chris's friend settings for his '''[[Pokemon GO#Post-jail|Pokemon GO account]]''' and '''[[Nintendo Switch]]''' reportedly change, leaving some users unable to view his accounts.<br /> **'''[[The Lainchu Manifesto#The Merge Begins (July 2021 - August 2021)|Part 9]]''' of [[The Lainchu Manifesto]] is posted, covering events and chats from [[July 2021]] to [[August 2021]], including Anaxis's DMs with [[User:Anaxis/DMs With Chris#Checking in After Incest Call Reveal|Chris]] and [[User:Anaxis/DMs With Sean Walker#Difficult Choice|The WCT]], and chats in [[User:Anaxis/The Knights of CWC Chats#First Incest Call Leaks|The Knights of CWC]] and [[User:Anaxis/Regarding Chris Chats|Regarding Chris]].<br /> *'''10 August''' - Chris's [[Pokemon GO]] account '''[[Pokemon GO#Post-jail|is seen online]]'''. He is also seen on '''[[Nintendo Switch]]''', playing games which had been released during his stay in jail.<br /> *'''8 August''' - The review for Chris's incest charge '''[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 8 August 2023.png|results in &quot;Resolved Order Pending&quot;]]'''.<br /> *'''4 August''' - Chris is sighted at a Walmart in Lynchburg, Virginia and '''[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Walmart_(August)|is recorded]].'''<br /> *'''1 August''' - '''[[The Lainchu Manifesto#Twilight of Christory (June 2021 - July 2021)|Part 8]]''' of [[The Lainchu Manifesto]] is posted, covering events and chats from [[June 2021]] to [[July 2021]], including Anaxis's DMs with [[User:Anaxis/DMs With Chris#Final Reminders (June and July 2021)|Chris]] and [[User:Anaxis/DMs With Sean Walker#Sean and Aliases|The WCT]], and chats in [[User:Anaxis/The Knights of CWC Chats#The WCT Continues Self-Aggrandizing|The Knights of CWC]].<br /> *'''20 July''' - Chris is sighted at Dragon Fire Games in Lynchburg and '''[[Post-jail_sightings_(2023)#Dragon Fire Games|is photographed]].'''<br /> <br /> -----<br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Recently Uncovered Info'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> *'''7 August''' - [[Bella chats#Playing Games|Playing games with Bella]] from [[2020]]<br /> *'''6 August''' - [[The Place chats (August 2020)#Complaining about Dillin, encouraging Kyle to role-play|Complaining about Dillin, encouraging Kyle to role-play]] from [[August 2020]].<br /> *'''4 August''' - [[The Place chats (October 2020)#Hundred Dollar Rainbow Dash Figure|Hundred Dollar Rainbow Dash Figure]] from [[October 2020]]. <br /> *'''1 August''' - [[Null DMs#Ignoring Null's advice on Larry Vaughn|Ignoring Null's advice on Larry Vaughn]] from [[January 2021]].<br /> *'''31 July''' - [[The Place chats (January 2021)#MKR Receives Funko Pop|MKR Receives Funko Pop]] and [[The Place chats (January 2021)#Transformers Talk with MKR|Transformers Talk with MKR]] from [[January 2021]].<br /> *'''30 July''' - [[The Place chats (January 2021)#Transformers Funko Pop for MKR|Funko Pop for MKR]] from [[January 2021]].<br /> *'''23 July''' - [[The Place chats (January 2020)#Considering Buying Meet &amp; Greet|Considering Buying Meet &amp; Greet]] from [[January 2020]]. <br /> <br /> &lt;!--&lt;center&gt;''Only significant events are listed. For all current updates, visit [https://kiwifarms.net/forums/christian-weston-chandler.18/ Kiwi Farms].''&lt;/center&gt;--&gt;<br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;{{clear}}{{Usage|1= This template sits in a place of pride on the CWCki [[Main Page]]. It is two lists of recent Chris-related activity, one for current updates, and another for newly added information. To prevent the lists becoming too long, older entries should be removed as newer ones are added; '''no more than seven entries''' should appear in each of the lists at any time.<br /> <br /> To add new updates to the list, simply edit this template, and place a brief description of what happened at the top of bulleted list. Please also link to a source, and set it in '''boldface''', so viewers can know where to read further. Entries should also be documented on the [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|current month article]]. Try to phrase things differently instead of always beginning entries with ''Chris does X''; it can get monotonous. Document the next milestone in Chris's legal proceedings (or when he is to be released from prison, should it come to this) in place of an Ongoing event.}}[[Category:Front page templates]] &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=File:SonichuLeft.jpeg&diff=310623 2023-08-13T18:49:15Z

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Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Michael_Snyder&diff=310430 2023-08-10T01:58:16Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Protip|Do NOT attempt to contact Michael Snyder. He has had no known contact with Chris for nearly a decade, and most certainly doesn't want to talk about an autistic motherfucker with a stranger on the internet.}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than [[Borb|your fossilized parents]] could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child [[Creepy stare|creeping out]] all the other [[Pokémon|pokemon]] kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an [[Chris and anger|angry]], [[Chris and contests|unsportsmanlike]] punk.|Michael Snyder, responding to Chris's [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video.}}<br /> <br /> {{quote|I Pray that someone else Will plant a bomb in the Game and Hobby PLACe and Blow The Whole Damn Store Up! It does not Deserve to EVER have &quot;C-Ville&quot; in its name above its accursed, sullied, Hellfire Entrance and Doors! Death to Michael Snyder too.<br /> <br /> That Bastard, among Bastards, Ruined and Destroyed my Life, Emotions, and Being!|Chris, while facing a charge for [[28 October 2011|running Snyder over with his car]]&lt;ref&gt;[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Hellfire entrance and doors]]&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> {{infobox Person<br /> | title = Michael Snyder<br /> | image = HNI 0022-cropped.jpg<br /> | size = 250px<br /> | name = Michael John Snyder<br /> | aliases = Mike<br /> | gender = Male<br /> | nationality = [[United States|American]]<br /> | race = White<br /> | religion = Judaism (according to Chris)<br /> | occupation = [[Manajerk]], [[The GAMe PLACe]] (to 2011)&lt;br&gt;Owner, Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (2011-2014)<br /> | saga = {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}<br /> |}}<br /> <br /> '''Michael John &quot;Mike&quot; Snyder''' (Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל ג'ון „מייק“ שניידר) is one of [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s many enemies. He was the [[manajerk|manager]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]] (later known as Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys), a [[video games|game]] and [[Toys|hobby]] store that was in [[Charlottesville]]. Chris regularly caused trouble at the PLACe and was eventually permabanned in June [[2008]]. Based on his surname, Chris came to the incorrect conclusion that Snyder was Jewish; in actuality, &quot;Snyder&quot; is actually an Americanized version of either the Dutch surname &quot;Snijder&quot;, the German surname &quot;Schneider&quot;, or the Slavic surname &quot;Šnajdr&quot; (all of which translate to &quot;tailor&quot; in their respective languages).&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=snyder Ancestry.com]&lt;/ref&gt;.<br /> <br /> Due to his [[Naïve|misguided]] belief that he had genuine friends at the PLACe, Chris developed a burning hatred for Snyder over the years, describing him as a &quot;bastard&quot;,&lt;ref&gt;[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]]&lt;/ref&gt; a &quot;[[JERKS|jerk]]&quot;,&lt;ref&gt;[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]&lt;/ref&gt; a &quot;pigheaded, stubborn Jew&quot;,&lt;ref&gt;[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]&lt;/ref&gt; &quot;cold-hearted and mean&quot;,&lt;ref&gt;[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]&lt;/ref&gt; a &quot;sonofabitch&quot;,&lt;ref&gt;[[May 2013 Facebook Posts|I have had more freedom when my father was alive]]&lt;/ref&gt; and &quot;[[pedofork|CHILDREN-FUCKING-DAMNED]]&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[[June 2012 Facebook posts#Damn Michael Snyder|Damn Michael Snyder]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In June 2010, Chris had a [[Son-Chu|run-in]] with Snyder when he tried to take his picture at the PLACe, and on [[28 October 2011]] both Barb and Chris committed a more serious attack on him for which they were both convicted. [[Law|Legal]] punishment as well as the store's eventual closing have done nothing to check Chris's [[anger|rage]].<br /> <br /> Despite being a major antagonist in Chris's eyes, Snyder was spared from being adapted into a Sonichu counterpart villain. This might have been because he didn't threaten the [[Love Quest]] or, more likely, [[Sonichu 11|Sonichu went on hiatus]] some time before Chris began developing further antipathy towards the store manager.<br /> <br /> __TOC__<br /> <br /> {{clear}}<br /> <br /> ==At the GAMe PLACe==<br /> {{quote|That was why the Son of a Bitch Jew kicked me out of The Game Place, [[Ban|Permanently]], After YEARS of Loyal Volunteer Service in the Pokemon TCG League. I had apologized numerously before, but he's still the pigheaded, stubborn Jew he was then.|[[Katie Bay E-mails 2|Chris, being his usual humble self.]]}}<br /> <br /> Chris's behavior at the GAMe PLACe offended the store's management in a number of ways. He slacked off on his (supposed) duty as a Pokémon gym leader, scared the children he played card games with, picked fights with other players, and let his [[race|racism]] and [[homos|homophobia]] shine. He also took his video game consoles into the store and hogged the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang [[Britney Spears]] songs during games, pitch fits inspired by his hatred of the [[HEXBox]], and much more.&lt;ref&gt;[[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;A]]&lt;/ref&gt; In April 2008, Chris's behavior got him a two-week ban from the store.<br /> <br /> The trigger for his permanent ban on 6 June [[2008]]&lt;ref&gt;This date is arrived at by an analysis of Chris's letters to Katie Bay, Blanca, and his Game Place friends. Mimms' claim that the permanent ban took place in August does not hold up.&lt;/ref&gt; was a shouting match with a black kid. It was on that day that Mike permanently banned Chris from the store; although, as Mimms claimed, he &quot;was looking for any reason to ban him at this point&quot;. Michael himself later recalled in a response to one of Chris's videos, &quot;I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even [[2000|10 years ago]] you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[[Greene County Conspiracy#Michael Snyder's reply]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Predictably, Chris did his best to appeal his permaban. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce rejoinder by his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication was that Chris would never be allowed back into the store.<br /> <br /> ==Years of hatred==<br /> {{Quote|And I also hope that the Game and Hobby Place in Charlottesville… [[Destruction Of Chris's House|BURNS TO THE GROUND]]! ALONG WITH MICHAEL SNYDER!|Chris|[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]], February 2011}}<br /> [[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|thumb||Chris at war with Michael.]]<br /> <br /> Chris has given many different explanations for why he was banned, but has never believed it was justified. In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris claimed that he had been thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. It was in this month, according to Chris, that Michael Snyder forced him to stop hogging the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of kids to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokémon. Chris got angry, and snatched a card box to write &quot;Michael Snyder Loves the 'F' out of [[Mary Lee Walsh]]&quot; on it. This so-called &quot;Wii incident&quot;, Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw which precipitated the ban. This account is [[List of Chris's Lies|almost certainly false]]; apart from contradicting Mimms' more objective account, Chris predictably tried to paint himself as getting one up on Snyder, and assumed that Mike would know or care who Mary was.<br /> <br /> On another occasion, however, Chris claimed that &quot;Michael was scared of me and and uh, he was afrai- and he was uh, preoccupied with his crackpot theory of me scaring his- scaring his... customers away, so he banned me from the store&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[[Sydney Kirsch]]&lt;/ref&gt; In December 2013, his explanation was, &quot;he has his hangups against me (still has them); he's either frightened or angry at me for the one or two times I let out a loud shout when there was too much going on at the time and I couldn't take it anymore&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails]]&lt;/ref&gt; At other times, he has assumed that Mike is prejudiced against autistic individuals, and had discriminated against him. In any case, while Chris has sometimes admitted that he caused some small problems, he has not felt that they justified a permanent ban, and he blames Snyder's overreaction on an irrational hatred.<br /> <br /> Even worse, from Chris's perspective, Michael refused to accept his numerous apologies and lift the ban. In March 2009, Chris made a clearly self-serving [[YouTube]] video apology to Michael and asked to be readmitted to the PLACe. The following month he tried again, posting an apology on the sidebar of another video. Yet again in October 2010, Chris made a bogus YouTube apology in order to look better to his [[Jackie|girlfriend]]. None of them had any effect. On 12 April 2010, Chris trespassed to pay a personal visit to Michael at the PLACe, and [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|tried to apologize]] in an attempt to get the ban lifted. Michael said no. Chris quickly dissolved into fury, [[South Park|yelling &quot;Jew&quot;]] as an insult and flipping him off. Michael attempted to get the fuzz, but by the time they got there Chris had already scrammed.<br /> <br /> Unable to comprehend Michael's actions, Chris came to suspect that some greater conspiracy was at work. As the organized trolling of Chris shifted into high gear, Chris wondered if Michael was somehow behind it all. &quot;What are you, A CONFIRMED INTERNET TROLL?!!!,&quot; he asked in July 2009. In May 2010, he put forth the theory that Greene County, Virginia school board officials had persuaded Michael to ban him, for no other reason than to make his life miserable. Perhaps because of this conspiratorial mindset, Chris seems to have jumped to his conclusion that Michael was Jewish on account of his last name. In [[100 2178|his May 2010 video]], Chris called Michael &quot;GOD-DAMN, GREEDY... SNYDER,&quot; seeming to restrain himself from calling Snyder a &quot;greedy Jew&quot;. In fact, &quot;Schneider&quot; is a German surname meaning &quot;tailor&quot; (and &quot;Snyder&quot; [or &quot;Sneijder&quot;] descends from the Dutch word for &quot;cutter&quot;). While some Eastern European and Russian Jews might have wound up with the name by anglicizing &quot;Shnaider&quot; (Шнайдер) or &quot;Sznajder&quot;, it doesn't necessarily denote Jewish heritage at all. The bottom line is that Michael is not Jewish.<br /> <br /> [[Matthew Noble call|A phone call]] on 10 August 2010 indicated that [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] (and, presumably, Barb as well) shared Chris's idea of the GAMe PLACe as Troll Central:<br /> <br /> {{Quote|Mike's been [[Kick the Autistic|persecuting him]] for years and I don't like Mike. I'd like to speak to the owner of the place I think lives up here, up the road from me. In [[Wikipedia:Madison, Virginia|Madison]] or somewhere. This whole thing is a setup from the very beginning with my son. Now I don- didn't like it then and I still don't like it... Mike and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are the ones that conspired together with a couple of other people- kids there that I think were [[Homos|gay]], to persecute and torment Christian for years.|Bob. Oh, Bob.}}<br /> <br /> On [[6 June 2010]], Chris had a beer, then drove to the PLACe to make a [[CWC is Angry|dartboard]] out of Mike's picture. When several people came out of the store to confront him, Chris got back in his car and attempted to flee, nearly hitting Snyder twice as he attempted to block Chris's escape. Two [[jerkops|police officers]] present at the shopping center stopped the fracas. At that moment Michael appeared on YouTube and commented &quot;Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He [[Pedofork|took pictures of my daughter]] and tried to run me over with [[Son-Chu|his car]]. They witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.&quot; The officers listened to both sides, and then let Chris off with a warning after making him delete the pictures he'd taken. To present his side of the story, Chris posted an incredibly delusional [[6 June 2010|video]] in which he claimed that Michael had jumped on top of his hood and shouted, &quot;YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE DEAD!&quot; He admitted to trying to flee from the police, and saw nothing wrong with his actions. Chris told a very similar fanciful story of [[26 December 2014|another assault]] four years later. Chris didn't tell his parents about this incident.&lt;ref&gt;[[Matthew Noble call]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Chris's hatred of Michael only grew. He began to insinuate that Michael was a child molester based on no evidence whatsoever.&lt;ref&gt;[[Calling Out &quot;Alec Benson Leary&quot; - Christopher]]&lt;/ref&gt; He also assumed that Michael was a violent maniac. While making plans to visit the store in April 2010, Chris wrote, &quot;I pray he won't get violent; if he does, I will defend myself&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[[Jackie E-mails 2]]&lt;/ref&gt; On another occasion he said that he was so afraid of Mike that he did not want to confront him while &quot;unarmed&quot; and alone.&lt;ref&gt;[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]&lt;/ref&gt; Ironically, Chris himself has on many occasions expressed violent urges against Michael, whether it was telling [[Lars]] that he would shoot Michael if he had a gun,&lt;ref&gt;[[Lars Call]]&lt;/ref&gt; or wishing that the PLACe would burn down with Mike inside.&lt;ref&gt;[[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Shit gets real==<br /> [[File:Snider.jpg|thumb|200px|Artist's impression of the Jew-Spider]]<br /> {{main|28 October 2011}}<br /> On [[28 October 2011]], just a few weeks after Bob's death, Chris and Barb launched a vehicular assault on the newly christened &quot;Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys&quot;, newly owned by Snyder. Chris and Barb both hit the proprietor with their vehicle and injured him. They were arrested near the scene and spent a day in jail. Both faced felony charges for failure to stop after an accident, while Chris also had trespassing and misdemeanor assault, and Barb had a second felony charge for assault on a [[Jerkop|law enforcement official]]. Mike filed a civil suit against them both.<br /> <br /> The plea bargain hearing was held on 10 July 2012. Despite his past history with the Chandlers, Snyder magnanimously pushed for leniency in the court case, as he did not want Chris to get a felony on his record. As part of the plea bargain, however, he apparently insisted on his medical bills being paid in full by the Chandlers. This prompted Chris to openly refer to Snyder as a &quot;thieving liar&quot; '''in court''' (though Snyder himself was not in attendance), showing a complete lack of gratitude to a man who had showed an amazing level of kindness considering the circumstances.&lt;ref&gt;[[This is how the Trial went|First-hand report by Cyan and Indigo]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In September 2013, Chris's felony charge was amended to a misdemeanor, and his sentence was suspended.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==The hatred continues==<br /> {{quote|I hate Snyder with a passion for destroying my life the way he did.|Chris following the plea bargain hearing.}}<br /> [[File:Sept13 Imgur 30.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's [[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Snyder. He shakes this container and holds it upside down to torture him.]]<br /> <br /> Chris learned nothing from this run-in with the law, and his anger towards Michael intensified. As with the previous run-in, Chris related an extremely distorted account of the incident immediately after the fact. &quot;Mike twice made his own deliberate leg scars, rubbing his legs on our bumper, banged our hood and fell backwards; we had NOT moved our van at either instance of him faking his falls.&quot; What's more, according to Chris, Mike had set a &quot;trap&quot; by posting a sign saying that there was a &quot;new owner,&quot; inducing him and his mother to enter the store. Chris has never deviated from this interpretation. The fact that Michael actually won the court case shocked Chris, and he saw this as a theft by Michael. <br /> <br /> As Chris continued to dwell on these issues, he came up with a new conspiracy to explain his original ban. In this version, [[Megan]] had recruited Michael into a conspiracy to destroy his life. Just as Chris and his parents had been coming close to discovering this Game PLACe conspiracy in 2008, Michael had banned him. Furthermore, as part of the &quot;trap&quot; Michael had laid on 28 October 2011, he had bribed the police to beat him up and falsify their reports. By September 2013, he regarded Michael, Megan and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] as some sort of axis of evil, &quot;the Top Three Fiends and Enemies of my lifetime; the ones who actually have Devastated my Heart, my Soul, my Reputation Online AND in Person/Real Life, my Emotions, AND my Life in General all-around.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Chris claimed that he randomly encountered Snyder in public some time in August 2013:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|WTH... The same [[Manajerks|Manajerk]] of Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys gave me the finger at [[List of restaurants#Sheetz|Sheetz]] in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]], and threatened me with &quot;Relax, I'm not going to hurt you&quot; in my face at [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] in Ruckersville; both in the same Morning a few weeks ago. I did not respond to either at the times. He violate [sic] his own &quot;restraining order.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Offline Troll/Bully]]&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> Chris clearly interpreted Mike's calming words as a threat. He also displayed his characteristic ignorance of [[Chris and the Law|the law]] - Chris was required to keep away from Snyder, not vice versa. This is Snyder's last known interaction in regards to Chris.<br /> <br /> By June 2014, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys had been closed for unknown reasons. Chris took some comfort from this, assuming that Michael's &quot;get-rich-quick scheme&quot; of filing the civil suit had somehow failed.&lt;ref&gt;[[Medallions|The Mr. Smith Situation]]&lt;/ref&gt; Whether Michael succumbed to Chris's curses, emigrated to Israel, or met some other fate is unclear and due to chris not saying anything recent about him, we may never know.<br /> <br /> As of August 2017, Chris not only still believes Mike Snyder set him up, but also blames him for [[Chris and money|blowing all of Bob's pension]] during the [[This is how the Trial went|2012 plea bargain hearing]]. Because [[Chris and reality|&quot;Mike rubbing his legs against Chris's car&quot; is somehow to blame]], as opposed to hiring an [[Rob Bell|expensive lawyer]].&lt;ref&gt;[[August 2017 Facebook posts#Chris still blames Snyder for everything]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> ===A new adversary?===<br /> [[File:AlogSockness.jpg|thumb|[[Jacob Sockness]] deciding to [[A-Log]] against Snyder over an incident that happened so long ago, even Chris has begun to forget about it.]]<br /> In September 2019, [[Jacob Sockness]], Chris's latest orbiter and a malicious enabler of his beliefs in the [[Dimensional Merge]], was seen attempting to incite Snyder via the guestbook for an obituary site which listed Snyder's deceased father. Sockness also attempted to harass Snyder upon rumours circulating that a new Game PLACe had opened in the suburbs of Washington, D.C.<br /> <br /> Ultimately, it seems that Chris may have completely dismissed this facet of Sockness's idiocy, as Chris has yet to comment on the rumors of his former haunt receiving new premises.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Snyder's YouTube Comments==<br /> <br /> Mike had a YouTube account, ''TheRcholic'', which he used to comment on some of Chris's videos.&lt;ref&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20130408132328/http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=u_p6bShW97Y&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> On [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|If any of you have a; problem with me, you can call me anytime at 1-301-693-0794.<br /> I am happy to take you on.<br /> Mike}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play??}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|By, the way, he was reading from a script he had written on a piece of paper.<br /> Mike}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|By the way, I'm not Jewish, but the last name is German, originally Schneider. He uses Jew because [[Niggos|Black and Nigger]] almost got him seriously hurt. He uses the word like a curse word.}}<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,<br /> Mike&lt;br&gt;<br /> Elvis has left the building}}<br /> <br /> In response to another comment 'I think inbreeding is partly to blame also'<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|No, the current thinking is his mother had fossilized eggs, and his father's sperm were in a walker, plus drinking heavily during the pregnancy didn't help. Mike}}<br /> <br /> In response to an unknown video about [[Mary Lee Walsh]]:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|Madeline is very flattered, but she wants me to tell all of you that her propellers are bigger.}}<br /> <br /> On a repost of [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of 2008, and nothing has sunken into that clown head of his.<br /> Mike}}<br /> <br /> After the events of 4 [[June 2010]]:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by the police. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his car. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}<br /> <br /> On the [[Greene County Conspiracy]] video:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxgreen|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Signed,&lt;br&gt;<br /> That goddamn Michael Snyder}}<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]<br /> *[[6 June 2010]]<br /> *[[28 October 2011]]<br /> *[[The GAMe PLACe]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[https://web.archive.org/web/20100421005416/http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic Archive of the YouTube account]<br /> <br /> {{GamePlaceSaga}}<br /> {{SecondExile}}<br /> {{People}}<br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Snyder, Michael}}<br /> {{articleofthenow}}<br /> [[Category:Manajerks]]<br /> [[Category:The GAMe PLACe]]<br /> [[Category:Things Chris hates]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sonichu_Headquarters_Troll_Edits&diff=308651 2023-07-16T06:07:49Z

<p>Homsar: /* Delete notice */</p> <hr /> <div>I'm thinking we should merge this page with the [[14 Branchland Court]] page and also add in a section about the Sonichu Headquarters listing on the BC Court page. What does everyone else think? --[[User:Moppo.moose|Moppo.moose]] ([[User talk:Moppo.moose|talk]]) 06:54, 25 April 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Delete notice ==<br /> <br /> Anyone object to deleting the article? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 10:01, 15 July 2023 (EDT)<br /> :I might also delete the pics on the article. Don't think Chris ever commented on any of those so no need to archive. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 10:21, 15 July 2023 (EDT)<br /> :It was a listing that attracted weens. Perhaps this could be moved to a subsection of the video’s article. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 02:07, 16 July 2023 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Brushfire_Video&diff=307096 2023-06-22T17:17:51Z

<p>Homsar: </p> <hr /> <div>{{DeadLinks}}<br /> The '''Brushfire Video''' (officially '''Male Idiot tries to put out fire, and Sits There Someone, please call 911 for Flintstone Drive! Y''') is a video uploaded by Chris to [[YouTube]] on 6 [[November 2014]]. The video was posted in conjunction with a [[November 2014 Facebook Posts#The Shovel Mech Horror|rant]] on [[Facebook]] that Chris made while observing a [[JERKS|man]] using an excavator to manage a small bonfire of brush and debris in the lot adjacent to the [[Rental House|rental house]]. The video features an actual conversation between Chris and Barb, the likes of which had not been seen since [[You're Always Pretty]]. The crunching and plinking sounds imply that it was shot rather nonchalantly during breakfast or lunch. <br /> <br /> Chris is deeply disgruntled by the whole affair. Even after a 911 operator dismissed the obvious distress of the Chandler household, and the video clearly shows that fire poses no threat to the Chandler household, the fact that Chris would fly into a rage because of someone else ignoring fire hazards is [[2014 house fire|ironic]], to say the least.<br /> <br /> The video has better quality than [[Chris and cinematography|usual]], having apparently been made with the YouTube Capture app on his [[iDea Book Case|iPhone]]. It is, however, quite possibly one of the shakiest videos he has made this side of [[Sonichu's Edge]].<br /> <br /> Note that the long title of the video reveals the address of his temporary home, Chris having learned nothing about revealing personal information despite all his troubles. He thought that his [[trolls|detractors]] would be unable to find the video by putting it in &quot;Unlisted&quot; mode on YouTube. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> ==Video==<br /> {{tardrage}}<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> | name = Male Idiot tries to put out fire, and Sits There. Someone, please call 911 for Flintstone Drive! <br /> | ytid = jMB29umbBRg<br /> | stardate = 6 [[November 2014]]<br /> | subject = {{Other|[[Hypocrisy]]}}, {{Website|[[YouTube]]}}<br /> | style = {{Rage|text}}, {{Smug|text}}<br /> | previous = [[To Mr. Smith]]<br /> | next = [[Mario_Kart_8_Videos#Mario_Circuit_Again|Wii U - Mario Kart 8 - Mario Circuit]]<br /> }}<br /> {{Quote|Somebody, please call 911 and tell 'em to get over here!}}<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> [''The first bit of the video is silent. &quot;The Hills Are Alive&quot; plays in the background. The camera takes a view out the window of an excavator. The operator of the excavator is using the machine to put some branches onto the bonfire. Nine seconds in, there is a jump cut to a new shot of the window. At the 1:17 mark, [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] presumably tells Chris that the excavator is none of his business.'']<br /> <br /> Well, it IS my business, I'm livin' right...next door to dis here. [''Plenty of crunching and rustling sounds can be heard in the background. At 1:36, Barb asks &quot;Are you watching from upstairs?&quot;'']<br /> <br /> YEAH, and I'm RECORDING it on my iPod! Video! Mmhem. Yeah, you see what he's...you see, he moved his...shovel mech, and he's...lookin' like he's trying to, he's either stokin' it, or he's trying to put it out! [''Barb says &quot;He doesn't have much to put it out with.&quot;''] Well, he could try covering it with the dirt, [[Speech impediment|nanowats]], that's what's looks like he is doing right now!<br /> <br /> [''More silence, then two grunts from Chris and plenty of rattling, followed by more silence. Barb says &quot;He's tryin' to put dirt over it to start cleanin' it up.&quot;'']<br /> <br /> YOU LOOKED FROM DOWNSTAIRS OR OUTSIDE? [''Barb replies with &quot;The dirt and smoke will get you down there.&quot;''] YEAH. [''Jingling in the background, probably Snoopy's dog tag.''] Ey, [[Snoopy]]. [''More silence.''] This can go on YouTube. &quot;Shoveling Male Idiot Tries to Put Out Fire...Surrounding a Forest...and...Neighborhood!&quot; An' there's a lake nearby. Y'know WHAT? He could scoop some water and put it OVER the damn fire! [''More silence.''] Amamatried callin' 911, but guess what? The [[Jerkop|darn idiots]] won't...listen. They think, &quot;He's not [[Chris and the Law|breakin' any LAAAAHZ]]!&quot; Consarnit, they don't have a lick a' [[Chris and reality|common sense]]!<br /> <br /> Oh, LOOK at this now! [''pause''] He drivin' away from the damn fire....oh, wait, he turnin' around! [''The music suddenly changes, as Barb's phone starts ringing. The ringtone is &quot;[[wikipedia:Street Life (The Crusaders album)|Street Life]]&quot; by The Crusaders.''] Oh, now what? Eymuna--<br /> <br /> [''Jump cut to a new shot of the window. More silence, with the song &quot;It Might as Well Be Spring&quot; in the background and either [[Clover]] or Snoopy howling. The man has finished putting fuel on the fire, and is now moving the excavator away. Chris uses his [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]] voice.''] Yep, I'm driving away! I stoked the fire, and now I'm driving away! I'm an idiot or somethin', look at me! I'm driving away from the fire after I darn stoked it! And the wind it heavy over here, I can feel it! And now I just turn myself around. And now I'm gonna sit here and watch the damn fire some more! [''normal voice''] Somebody, please call 911 and tell 'em to get over here!<br /> <br /> {{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[To Mr. Smith]]|nextlink=[[26 December 2014|Chris Chan maces a GameStop employee]]}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]<br /> [[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2014]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jail_Saga&diff=304022 2023-04-01T20:52:54Z

<p>Homsar: /* Sighting */</p> <hr /> <div>==Splitting up article?==<br /> <br /> Chris's court case has only just begun, and the info about it is going to keep increasing as time goes on. For clarity and size reasons, I think we should separate his arrest and his court case into separate pages - something like 'Incest arrest' and 'Chris's incest trial.' As is, the current article reads very awkwardly.<br /> --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 19:09, 23 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *What about one called 1 August 2021, which chronicles the arrest, then a separate page about the court dates all together (unless they end up being a lot meatier, then we split them into individual pages)? --[[User:VoDKa|VoDKa]] ([[User talk:VoDKa|talk]]) 15:40, 29 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *The page is quite small at the moment and splitting the topic up right now will only cause confusion; the topic of incest was originally just on the sex page, it became its own page only for the consequences of it to become yet another page; we really don't need 4 pages talking about the exact same thing, 3 seems a bit redundant frankly. --[[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 21:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :*Fair enough. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 20:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Merging this article with the main Incest article==<br /> <br /> I know I was proposing a split just a month ago, but I'm actually thinking now we should merge this with the main [[Affair with Mother|Incest]] article, possibly renaming it to 'Incest Saga' to cover the whole situation better. By the nature of the subjects of the articles, they have to discuss one another at length, making lots of redundant sections - but still, each page provides an incomplete picture of the timeline. I propose merging these articles, with separate sections for each stage of the timeline. Here's my basic idea for the structure:<br /> <br /> 1. Introduction (mostly copied from the Incest article)<br /> 2. Prior events (basically copied from the section of the same name on the [[Affair with Mother|Incest]] article)<br /> 3. A section covering the actual incest itself (from the incest article)<br /> 4. The leaked call and initial fallout (from the incest article)<br /> 5. Chris's time at the Inn and his arrest (cobbled together from parts of both articles)<br /> 6. Legal timeline (literally just the section from the Arrest &amp; Court Case page)<br /> <br /> Getting all the information in one place would help a lot with clarity imo. Thoughts? --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 22:44, 14 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I agree with this, having two articles that seem to be covering the same info yet are separate is quite confusing. I don't have much to add to the formatting discussion but I think that merging the two articles and changing the name of the old one would be the smart thing to do. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 23:17, 15 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> : I think that it may just be a better idea to rework the Incest page to be about Chris's fascination with the act (basically lifting most of the content from the [[Chris and sex]] page) and the communications revealing what he'd done, followed by a separate page covering the arrest. Otherwise, we're going to be dealing with a gigantic article with how long the legal coverage is going to end up being. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 08:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> :: I'll echo the sentiment of KingClark. This page will most likely expand with a new section or two with the coming court case, I think that this page should be its own thing. The incest page should focus on Chris's past views of incest, his relationship with Barbra, and how Bella factored into all of that. [[User:Abaddon|Abaddon]] ([[User talk:Abaddon|talk]]) 08:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::: I also like KingClark's suggestion. The only other thing I'd suggest in addition to that would be to move the section about the emergency protective order to this page, since it's more connected to the legal consequences than the act itself. The page could be renamed something like 'Incest legal consequences.' --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 13:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rename ==<br /> <br /> The fact that the title contains 'August 2021' is a little bit misleading, since it's way past August by now, and doesn't really describe the article well. I propose we rename the article to something a bit more accurate or concise. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 21:04, 18 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> * A creative name has to be made for it though: the Jail of Fail saga? The Prison-chu saga? The Passion of the Chris?&lt;small&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Necromaster|contribs]]) 22:00, 27 October 2021&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == &quot;Second and third letters from jail&quot; section ==<br /> <br /> I don't think they deserve their own section. It could easily be condensed to a few sentences in the previous section. The first letter deserves one because Chris incriminated himself so deeply, and thus is relevant to the court case. But these don't really hold much relevance to the actual topic. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 16:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Jail vs Prison ==<br /> <br /> Someone pointed out that that there's inconsistent usage of jail/prison and suggested that &quot;prison&quot; be renamed to &quot;jail&quot; for now since Chris has not yet been sent to prison. Thoughts? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:01, 2 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I already changed the article name. I also feel that we should change all instances of &quot;prison&quot; to &quot;jail&quot; for consistency's sake. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:06, 2 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Deferral ==<br /> <br /> Do we have any real proof Chris's case got deferred? According to Vinelink he's still in custody though that might not be accurate given the case being sealed. There's a lot of reasons we haven't heard from Chris since the grand jury and we really need to avoid accepting speculation as fact. The looking forward section might also need a rewrite. --[[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 00:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Heilberg had offered a motion for an autism disorder deferral, which is how we know that his case got deferred.[[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 00:56, 17 August 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Deleted some paragraphs from Looking Forward that are outdated at this point. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:22, 17 August 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == FAQ ==<br /> <br /> Should the Kiwi Farms FAQ thread link stay or be removed? The author of the thread has noted that it is outdated now and has no plan to continue updating it. Alternatively, we could move the FAQ thread to an External Links section instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:39, 9 November 2022 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Deletion of Looking Forward section==<br /> Any objections to deleting that section? It is rather speculative and the assumptions are out-of-date. The case is also complicated with too many unknown factors. I think it would be best to continue noting down proceedings as they occur instead of trying to speculate. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:35, 17 January 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline of in-jail events?==<br /> <br /> I noticed this article focuses a lot more on the trial than Chris's actual life in jail; should we make a timeline for things that Chris has (even allegedly) gone through in jail? --[[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 11:49, 27th January 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :What kind of things? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:53, 27 January 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> :Things he himself has confessed to and suggested he did within jail itself, such as his in jail purchase history (or at least the ones we know about like the prayer rugs), the time he apparently drew a portal onto his cell wall, his banning from the basketball court (and alleged un-banning), the dates of his jail drawings ect. The more I think about it, the more difficult this idea would be to implement. [[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 23:37, 01st Febuary 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sighting ==<br /> <br /> In the Alleged Sighting section it's written that Chris is wearing the same leggings from when he was arrested. But [[:File:ChrisChan ARRESTED LIVE - Ethan Ralph's Chris Chan Search Party - -Killstream -TheRalphRetort (720p 30fps H264-192kbit AAC).mp400001.png|the leggings from his arrest have a design on them]] that's not in [[:File:Chris chan post arrest maybe - without Instagram.jpg|the alleged sighting photo]]. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br /> :Chris also has his s-chu balls attached to his skirt, which wouldn't work without playing pokemon go. it also looks like he doesn't have them attached in the arrest video. Do we have any info if the things in Chris' room were brought to the jail as his personal effects? [[User:VoDKa|VoDKa]] ([[User talk:VoDKa|talk]]) 06:20, 31 March 2023 (EDT)<br /> :I think the entire section should just be deleted. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:25, 1 April 2023 (EDT)<br /> ::And Chris looks much fatter than in the mugshot. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 16:52, 1 April 2023 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jail_Saga&diff=304021 2023-04-01T20:52:34Z

<p>Homsar: /* Sighting */</p> <hr /> <div>==Splitting up article?==<br /> <br /> Chris's court case has only just begun, and the info about it is going to keep increasing as time goes on. For clarity and size reasons, I think we should separate his arrest and his court case into separate pages - something like 'Incest arrest' and 'Chris's incest trial.' As is, the current article reads very awkwardly.<br /> --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 19:09, 23 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *What about one called 1 August 2021, which chronicles the arrest, then a separate page about the court dates all together (unless they end up being a lot meatier, then we split them into individual pages)? --[[User:VoDKa|VoDKa]] ([[User talk:VoDKa|talk]]) 15:40, 29 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *The page is quite small at the moment and splitting the topic up right now will only cause confusion; the topic of incest was originally just on the sex page, it became its own page only for the consequences of it to become yet another page; we really don't need 4 pages talking about the exact same thing, 3 seems a bit redundant frankly. --[[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 21:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :*Fair enough. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 20:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Merging this article with the main Incest article==<br /> <br /> I know I was proposing a split just a month ago, but I'm actually thinking now we should merge this with the main [[Affair with Mother|Incest]] article, possibly renaming it to 'Incest Saga' to cover the whole situation better. By the nature of the subjects of the articles, they have to discuss one another at length, making lots of redundant sections - but still, each page provides an incomplete picture of the timeline. I propose merging these articles, with separate sections for each stage of the timeline. Here's my basic idea for the structure:<br /> <br /> 1. Introduction (mostly copied from the Incest article)<br /> 2. Prior events (basically copied from the section of the same name on the [[Affair with Mother|Incest]] article)<br /> 3. A section covering the actual incest itself (from the incest article)<br /> 4. The leaked call and initial fallout (from the incest article)<br /> 5. Chris's time at the Inn and his arrest (cobbled together from parts of both articles)<br /> 6. Legal timeline (literally just the section from the Arrest &amp; Court Case page)<br /> <br /> Getting all the information in one place would help a lot with clarity imo. Thoughts? --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 22:44, 14 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I agree with this, having two articles that seem to be covering the same info yet are separate is quite confusing. I don't have much to add to the formatting discussion but I think that merging the two articles and changing the name of the old one would be the smart thing to do. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 23:17, 15 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> : I think that it may just be a better idea to rework the Incest page to be about Chris's fascination with the act (basically lifting most of the content from the [[Chris and sex]] page) and the communications revealing what he'd done, followed by a separate page covering the arrest. Otherwise, we're going to be dealing with a gigantic article with how long the legal coverage is going to end up being. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 08:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> :: I'll echo the sentiment of KingClark. This page will most likely expand with a new section or two with the coming court case, I think that this page should be its own thing. The incest page should focus on Chris's past views of incest, his relationship with Barbra, and how Bella factored into all of that. [[User:Abaddon|Abaddon]] ([[User talk:Abaddon|talk]]) 08:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::: I also like KingClark's suggestion. The only other thing I'd suggest in addition to that would be to move the section about the emergency protective order to this page, since it's more connected to the legal consequences than the act itself. The page could be renamed something like 'Incest legal consequences.' --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 13:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rename ==<br /> <br /> The fact that the title contains 'August 2021' is a little bit misleading, since it's way past August by now, and doesn't really describe the article well. I propose we rename the article to something a bit more accurate or concise. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 21:04, 18 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> * A creative name has to be made for it though: the Jail of Fail saga? The Prison-chu saga? The Passion of the Chris?&lt;small&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Necromaster|contribs]]) 22:00, 27 October 2021&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == &quot;Second and third letters from jail&quot; section ==<br /> <br /> I don't think they deserve their own section. It could easily be condensed to a few sentences in the previous section. The first letter deserves one because Chris incriminated himself so deeply, and thus is relevant to the court case. But these don't really hold much relevance to the actual topic. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 16:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Jail vs Prison ==<br /> <br /> Someone pointed out that that there's inconsistent usage of jail/prison and suggested that &quot;prison&quot; be renamed to &quot;jail&quot; for now since Chris has not yet been sent to prison. Thoughts? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:01, 2 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I already changed the article name. I also feel that we should change all instances of &quot;prison&quot; to &quot;jail&quot; for consistency's sake. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:06, 2 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Deferral ==<br /> <br /> Do we have any real proof Chris's case got deferred? According to Vinelink he's still in custody though that might not be accurate given the case being sealed. There's a lot of reasons we haven't heard from Chris since the grand jury and we really need to avoid accepting speculation as fact. The looking forward section might also need a rewrite. --[[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 00:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Heilberg had offered a motion for an autism disorder deferral, which is how we know that his case got deferred.[[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 00:56, 17 August 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Deleted some paragraphs from Looking Forward that are outdated at this point. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:22, 17 August 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == FAQ ==<br /> <br /> Should the Kiwi Farms FAQ thread link stay or be removed? The author of the thread has noted that it is outdated now and has no plan to continue updating it. Alternatively, we could move the FAQ thread to an External Links section instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:39, 9 November 2022 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Deletion of Looking Forward section==<br /> Any objections to deleting that section? It is rather speculative and the assumptions are out-of-date. The case is also complicated with too many unknown factors. I think it would be best to continue noting down proceedings as they occur instead of trying to speculate. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:35, 17 January 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Timeline of in-jail events?==<br /> <br /> I noticed this article focuses a lot more on the trial than Chris's actual life in jail; should we make a timeline for things that Chris has (even allegedly) gone through in jail? --[[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 11:49, 27th January 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :What kind of things? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:53, 27 January 2023 (EST)<br /> <br /> :Things he himself has confessed to and suggested he did within jail itself, such as his in jail purchase history (or at least the ones we know about like the prayer rugs), the time he apparently drew a portal onto his cell wall, his banning from the basketball court (and alleged un-banning), the dates of his jail drawings ect. The more I think about it, the more difficult this idea would be to implement. [[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 23:37, 01st Febuary 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sighting ==<br /> <br /> In the Alleged Sighting section it's written that Chris is wearing the same leggings from when he was arrested. But [[:File:ChrisChan ARRESTED LIVE - Ethan Ralph's Chris Chan Search Party - -Killstream -TheRalphRetort (720p 30fps H264-192kbit AAC).mp400001.png|the leggings from his arrest have a design on them]] that's not in [[:File:Chris chan post arrest maybe - without Instagram.jpg|the alleged sighting photo]]. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2023 (EDT)<br /> :Chris also has his s-chu balls attached to his skirt, which wouldn't work without playing pokemon go. it also looks like he doesn't have them attached in the arrest video. Do we have any info if the things in Chris' room were brought to the jail as his personal effects? [[User:VoDKa|VoDKa]] ([[User talk:VoDKa|talk]]) 06:20, 31 March 2023 (EDT)<br /> :I think the entire section should just be deleted. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:25, 1 April 2023 (EDT)<br /> :::And Chris looks much fatter than in the mugshot. [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 16:52, 1 April 2023 (EDT)</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Chris_Chan:_A_Comprehensive_History&diff=304008 2023-04-01T13:27:49Z

<p>Homsar: /* Episodes (both original and revised) */ Will change when the true and honest episode 74 comes out</p> <hr /> <div>{{quote|Chris Chan. Arguably the most documented person in history.<br /> <br /> His antics have been witnessed by millions, with many always keeping a close eye on him, waiting to see what he does next.<br /> <br /> What made him this way? What is the attraction? What keeps us fascinated?<br /> <br /> This is the story of Chris Chan.|[[Geno Samuel]]'s opening narration for the series, usually condensed to the last two lines after the premiere; starting in Part XLIV, feminine pronouns are used instead.}}<br /> <br /> '''''Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History''''' is a documentary [[Internet|webseries]] created by [[Geno Samuel]], which began in [[February 2018]]. It is, as the name suggests, an extensive, in-depth documentary about [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s life, similar to [[Chris Chan Documentary (Sachumo)|Sachumo]]'s. However, while Sachumo's film is an abridged summary of Chris's life for newcomers, Geno's videos go into greater detail, with most videos being between 35 to 45 minutes in length, with a decent portion of this being tied to the playback of Chris's own audio and video. As of Part LXXIII, the documentary series is 2 days, 3 hours, 26 minutes, and 3 seconds long.<br /> <br /> The series is in chronological order, taking several videos just to cover Chris's life before his internet fame, with a significant portion of the series (28 episodes) dedicated to [[Saga|the troll-influenced events of 2009 and 2010]] – trolls had prodded Chris into producing many calls and videos at the time, which the series utilizes for playback. It presents the events of Chris's life in a mostly objective light, allowing watchers to pass their own judgment on Chris and the people around him. Nonetheless, Geno occasionally slips in dry, blunt observations over [[Chris and hypocrisy|Chris's shortcomings]], along with summaries of how Chris's problems manifest themselves and worsen over time. Furthermore, he also manages to maintain a completely neutral, deadpan tone of voice when discussing the absolute absurdities present in Chris's life, and he reads spelling errors precisely as they are written, which leads to some of the documentary's most humorous moments despite being an overview of Chris's life.<br /> <br /> Geno's narration also reflects Chris's changes in identity throughout the series, [[Christopher's name change|initially referring to him as &quot;Christopher&quot; before changing it to &quot;Christian&quot; in the first episode]] and using masculine pronouns for the bulk of the show's run, eventually shifting over to [[Transgender|calling Chris &quot;Christine&quot; and using feminine pronouns]] by the time that the series reaches the events of late [[2014]], when Chris began to transition. It remains to be seen if he will eventually revert to using masculine pronouns during Chris's extended period of being &quot;[[Spirit possession|possessed]]&quot; by [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] through most of [[2020]] and part of [[2021]], although he has used masculine pronouns to describe Chris's past antics after this period in time. Beginning with Episode 61, Geno began altering the theme music to represent the [[Idea Guys]] saga. Since the saga in question ended in Episode 62, Geno has said that it would be reverted back in Episode 63, although a distorted, reversed version of the theme has consistently played over the credits since then.&lt;ref&gt;https://youtu.be/W3K30u0T5gI?t=1091/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The series is still ongoing, its latest episode covering events up to late [[October 2018]], and though Geno initially predicted that it would be around 50 episodes long by the time he reached the present day, the fiftieth episode ended up only reaching the events of mid-[[2016]]. Geno has since predicted that he would reach modern Christory by the eighty-ninth episode&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/genosamuelgeno/status/1517274668004118528/&lt;/ref&gt;, meaning that he has a laid out plan for the documentary. Once he's &quot;caught up&quot; with [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]], Geno plans to continue the series incrementally until it ultimately reaches [[Chris and death#Chris himself (1982–)|its logical conclusion]]. [[Christorical eras|It will take a while to get to the present, in any case]].<br /> <br /> The documentary series has inspired a considerable amount of new discussion related to Chris, which has predictably produced more [[Weening|weens]] who mistakenly think that &quot;modern&quot; Chris acts like he once did during the so-called &quot;Classic Era&quot; – much of the context behind trolling was never publicly released by Chris's trolls, making it appear as if many of Chris's actions during troll sagas were his own ideas. The documentary itself eventually ended up being a part of Christory in a more direct fashion, as several people who would go on to interact with Chris either found out about him, or were influenced by, the series. Furthermore, Chris is aware of the series, and has commented on it several times over [[Twitter]] and [[YouTube]], usually expressing approval of Geno's attention to detail.<br /> <br /> In light of the [[Affair with Mother|incest]] reveal, Geno, like everyone else, was utterly flabbergasted by the extremely dark turn that Christory took.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/genosamuelgeno/status/1421139988138188804&lt;/ref&gt; Geno then announced, via his [[Patreon]], that the series would be taking an extended hiatus following the release of Episode 59. He explained that he felt that it would be potentially tasteless and exploitative to continue the series immediately after Chris's appalling actions came to light, so he informed his patrons that he would not be completing and releasing new episodes of the series until early 2022.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.patreon.com/posts/stopping-now-54330974&lt;/ref&gt; During that time, Geno redirected his attention to work on his other documentaries and music projects. The series officially resumed on 24 February 2022, [[Chris's birthday|Chris's 40th birthday]].<br /> <br /> ==History==<br /> <br /> Geno attempted to monetize his GenoSamuel2 channel. On 13 [[June 2018|June of that year]], when it was his turn to be reviewed by YouTube staff for the monetization program, they instead issued community guideline strikes due to the clips of bullying featured in the videos, and as a result his channel was terminated.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/bpe1lz/its_coming_cant_wait_for_the_new_material/enu9fug/&lt;/ref&gt; Geno confirmed that he did send an appeal form, but YouTube never gave him his channel back. Fans reuploaded all of the episodes made prior to the strike and Geno created a new backup channel on YouTube where the series would be uploaded from then on.<br /> <br /> A week later, Geno revealed on the backup channel he would be taking a long break from the videos, stating that he was getting tired of always having to have Chris in his mind when making the documentary. He said that he will continue working on them sometime near the end of the year.<br /> <br /> On 3 [[January 2019]], he announced on his [[Twitter]] in the form of a teaser poster that the series would be coming back on 24 [[February 2019]], which also happens to be [[Chris's birthday|Chris's birthday]]. The new series contains updated audio, additional and corrected information and some modifications to prevent another takedown. He also mentioned that he would not be monetizing the videos out of respect.<br /> <br /> Geno said that Chris knew of the original run of the series and approved of it.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyrkBzO-WY8&amp;t&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In [[July 2020]], Geno announced the series would go on hiatus again until [[August 2020|August]]; however, the series resumed slightly earlier than expected, as Part 41 premiered on 31 July.<br /> <br /> On 14 September, Geno posted a message explaining why he decided to use feminine pronouns to refer to Chris beginning from Part 43:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/post/UgyQY_S-ex_qB7nUns94AaABCQ [https://web.archive.org/web/20211002154846/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_3pplzbKMZsP5zBH_6SVJQ/community?lb=UgyQY_S-ex_qB7nUns94AaABCQ (archive)]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[[Sonic Boom Protests|CHRIS CHAN’S PRONOUNS ARE NOT SHE/HER, AND THEY SERIOUSLY CAUSE SENSORY OVERLOADS IN ME!!! GENO NEEDS TO RECALL EVERYTHING REFERRING TO HIM AS A WOMAN AND CHANGE CHRIS’ GENDER BACK IMMEDIATELY!!!]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[My Little Pony Protests|FOLLOW ME IN BOYCOTTING ''CHRIS CHAN: A COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY'', UNTIL GENO WISES UP, RECALLS EVERYTHING AND CHANGES HIS PRONOUNS BACK, NOW!!!]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!|Join My Group, FIX CHRIS CHAN’S PRONOUNS IMMEDIATELY, GENO!!!, and Sign Our Petition NOW!!!]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> https://www.facebook.com/groups/fixCHRISCHANSpronounsImmediatelyGENO&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[Christian Weston Chandler|This is what you sound like.]]<br /> <br /> But seriously, yes, the transition happened, and has already caused an uproar which I doubt will subside. This would have happened anyway if I didn’t change it; I would have a different vocal minority yelling about it. <br /> The change does not reflect my personal opinions, and even if they did, the star of the series’ name now would still be “Christine.” I must deal with the reality at hand. I started calling Christopher “Christian” [[Christopher's name change|when he wanted to be called that]], and now I just started referring to her as a woman with the name of “Christine.” The video series should not be seen as a voice of reason, or as a preacher with a message. It is an opportunity to give Chris a voice, and to offer a better understanding of her thoughts through the very many experiences meticulously documented in her life. It is up to you to make whatever you want with the information given. As the [[Anchuent Prophecy|ancient]] [[Cherokian Clan|Indian]] proverb goes, “[[Pmurt|It is what it is.]]”}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Donald Trump - A Comprehensive History.PNG|thumb|200px|Some of the altered episode names and thumbnails]]<br /> [[File:ChrisGenoAprilFoolsReaction.jpeg|thumb|200px|left|Chris's complaint to Geno about the April Fool's joke.]]<br /> <br /> On 1 [[April 2021]], Geno commemorated April Fool's Day by changing the title of the series to ''[[Pmurt|Donald Trump: A Comprehensive History]]'', and altered the thumbnails of every video in the series to include images of him.&lt;ref&gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20210401070110/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm WayBack Machine: 1 April 2021]&lt;/ref&gt; The content of the videos themselves, however, remained unchanged. Chris did not take kindly to this, privately messaging Geno over Twitter to complain about the alteration. <br /> <br /> On 31 [[July 2021]], Geno decided to put the series on hiatus following the release of Episode 59, in light of the incest situation. He had originally planned to do so after Episode 60, but opted to take a break from the series for multiple reasons.<br /> <br /> On 1 [[October 2021]], Geno was featured on [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcmxOGYGF51T1XsqQLewGtQ TrashTaste], a podcast featuring a group of anime YouTubers, thereby exposing Chris to millions of weebs everywhere. In the podcast Geno expressed his desire to also follow his other passions, not wanting to be known as &quot;The Chris Chan guy&quot;. When asked how many episodes were possibly left, he replied &lt;q&gt;maybe another 10 episodes&lt;/q&gt;. He also said &lt;q&gt;if the opportunity arises… if I can get something done with Netflix, this could be a stepping stone.&lt;/q&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciJamr2z1Q&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;!--On 26 [[January 2022]], Geno released an update for Part LX (60) on his Patreon page.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.patreon.com/posts/chris-chan-part-61667624&lt;/ref&gt; Seems unnecessary, uncomment if you disagree--&gt;<br /> On 24 [[February 2022]], After a 208-day hiatus, Part LX gets released.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBN4_57TuMY&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> On 1 [[April 2022]], Geno did another April Fool's Day joke by changing his username to Tekken Time Bomb and swapping all of the titles and thumbnails of the videos with clickbait on subjects unrelated to Chris, renaming the playlist &quot;Freshest Videos&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20220401133734/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm WayBack Machine: 1 April 2022]&lt;/ref&gt; Nonetheless, the titles and thumbnails all cleverly alluded to details discussed in the videos themselves.<br /> <br /> ==Mentions by Chris==<br /> In [[August 2019]], Chris, while in his phase of role-playing as [[Magi-Chan]], began &quot;binge-listening&quot; to the series&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165401077619073024&lt;/ref&gt; (suggesting that, like with the [[Sachumo]] documentary, Chris couldn't bear to actually watch the videos). Chris would make comments on the videos as Magi-Chan via Twitter, and as himself in YouTube's comment section.<br /> <br /> Chris's interest in the series continued after his phrase of role-playing as Magi-Chan ended, eventually watching the series as opposed to just listening.<br /> <br /> *&quot;quite curious, when you think about it, from the ''Animal Crossing'' Video, Christine calls for ''Sonic Heroes'' being GameCube exclusive; she gave premonition to the Nintendo-Exclusive ''Sonic'' titles.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165329837071962117&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *He noted exactly which cartoons and games [[Megan Schroeder]] had introduced him to over a decade prior &quot;just for the record and Megan's reference&quot;, those being ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' and ''Tekken'' OC Yoshimitsu, also saying he'd been a fan of ''[[My Little Pony]]'' and ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' before meeting Megan.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165401077619073024&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *&quot;You made me laugh when you stiltedly read, 'You don't have to tell me twice. But back in the Stone Age...' Just simply how you said it cracked me up.&lt;br&gt;Reminder, the end of that joke is,&lt;br&gt;'...you Really needed to tell them twice'; you couldn't get it through their heads at all.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165401077619073024&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *Chris viewed his past homophobia with regret.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1166479203585466368&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *Chris commented on Part 24 in YouTube's comment section, claiming that he had known [[Alec Benson Leary]] was a troll, among other dubious remarks:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I remember those times, and it was cringing to hear myself drone ON and ON just in thinking he was going to clear those ads from my old website. [[Lie|Subconsciously, I had always Known he and his crew were Trolling me the whole time]], and it showed in how I reacted later on. And, yet, while partly oblivious, I Was Trolling Alec At the time. And I take no shame in it, because he was Trolling Me. I saw through his charade and showed it in how he treated everyone in my few pages, as he had already done, and worse, in his pages. It only added fuel to the nobility of pulling the plug on the [[Cwcipedia]] to save myself, my arts, and my peoples and family, he from the shit I was having to deal with from those bastards. [[PsychicPowers|Psychic Powers]] were strong within me in the later part of this video. And they have only gotten stronger over the years into now, despite my having the many more trials to endure and learn from.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ffLGSfQf8o&amp;lc=UgxvWUOajowz_kPacNd4AaABAg Link to video], and [https://web.archive.org/web/20191023182218/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://youtu.be/1ffLGSfQf8o archive.org's screenshot of the comments section.]&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *Chris tweeted on Part 31, about the [[100 2270]] video he filmed on 7 October 2010:&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1236699315302797312&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[[File:Chris watches CCCS Part 31.jpg|thumb|200px]]<br /> <br /> This Part, starting from 16:30, I forgot I made this video. It was soo Stupid, it is genuinely hilarious. <br /> <br /> Rolling on the floor laughing<br /> <br /> I guess it was in the high-energetic, loud voice I used that day to imitate Liquid Chris. ALOL!<br /> <br /> “yamosexual”? Get ready for a meme of that word.}}<br /> <br /> In summer 2020, during Chris's phase of [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], Chris continued commenting on the series.<br /> <br /> *About Part 38, Chris laughed about the goofy facial expressions he had made in [[Message for John Kyle]].&lt;ref&gt;[[May 2020 social media posts#Chris talks about Genosamuel's Documentary]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *About Part 39, an angry Chris complained about Geno reading an e-mail from the [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2013-2014]] collection in which Chris had privately talked about [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|shoving his own penis into his buttcrack]]. He also whined about Geno's coverage of the [[2014 house fire|house fire]].<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|Hey! Firstly, that door to the bathroom downstairs was unable to close at all back in 2013 and early ‘14. Second, Why the Hell would you read that personal shit about [[Mama]] with [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2013-2014#Chris fucks himself|the penis thing]]? [[God complex|Oh, My Chris Chan]]! Why did [[Kim Wilson|Kim]] have to be such a literal [[Troll]] to totally expose these things when they were shared with her in strictest confidence? “Kim Wilson”, if that is even your real name at this point, Mama may forgive you to an extent, but I, Sonichu, am truly insulted by this shit stunt you’ve pulled with her trust in betrayal over the years.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ&amp;lc=UgzdoujDjuYP-1upCml4AaABAg&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About part 42, Chris commented on the [[Brushfire Video]]:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|For the record, when Mama recorded that putting out the fire video, she and Barb were literally still recovering from the house fire earlier that year. Sight of fire gave Mama a whole bunch of PTSD for the number of years.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=karTjT_4Gbc&amp;lc=UgwK8W6anDfgeWo3YGR4AaABAg&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About part 44, Chris thanked Geno for referring to him with his preferred pronouns, as the series had entered the point of Chris's [[transgender]]ism.<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow| Finally, you got the pronoun right with Mama Chris Chan; thanks, Geno. Better late than never. 😊⚡️&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MdSQG0B_c&amp;lc=Ugzapm793HOq50Jjq7p4AaABAg&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> After the Sonichu spirit possession ended, Chris still commented on videos- albeit as Chris himself, once more.<br /> <br /> *About Part 52, Chris commented on his distaste of [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]] and the predictions he made.<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I predicted how horribly Trump was going to do. Who was right all along? Me. ⚡️💙⚡️<br /> Trump was a Mean King, and he did not get our votes then or again.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os51Bmrr0Kw&amp;lc=UgwYOZd_fR_CdoQ_K-l4AaABAg&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About Part 54, Chris made a [[Random-access humor|joke]] regarding the episode's Roman numbering (LIV).<br /> {{quotebox|Part LIVe! On the Internet!&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUHnLlqY6SI&amp;lc=UgzA39cP4b-MEVr78AN4AaABAg&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About Part 56, Chris promoted the as-of-yet unreleased next episode of the series, claiming it would cover the events of the [[Idea Guys]] saga.<br /> {{quotebox|Tune in next video for Idea Guy, Johnson Wiles, and Stephen Boyd, or that, among which, is chronicled in “Awakening of a CPU”.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydR9nksHSg&amp;lc=Ugx3w3o9-QZT0EL3Tb54AaABAg&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> Part 57 did not, in fact, bring up the Idea Guys. They eventually made their first appearance only by Part 59.<br /> <br /> *In July 2021, [[The WCT]] and Chris discussed the series and potential upcoming episodes. Chris believed that &quot;[[Spirit possession|the ten and a half months when Sonichu Prime and I were body-swapped]]&quot; would be one of the last sagas people would find entertaining.&lt;ref&gt;[[WCT DMs#Bismuth and Geno]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{clear}}<br /> <br /> ==What is the attraction?==<br /> <br /> In his 100k subscriber Q&amp;A special uploaded in December of 2020, Geno answered a question Chris had posted from the CwcvilleGuardian account. Roleplaying as Sonichu, Chris asked what Geno believed to be the draw of himself and life story.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcGzQrkKHo0&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|Hey, Geno. I, Sonichu, offer a sentiment of support and kind thoughts in response to this. Congratulations, Dude. But I do have a question, as well (feel free to get really Metaphysical about it; break your own fourth walls). Given every single possibility between this and all other dimensions in this Omega timeline set we live in, including that Mama Chris Chan, herself, being the OC of OCs, could also have been [[Messiah complex|a creator of all Original Creators, including yourself]], if not that one major influential aspect, What do you feel is the most significant factor that attracts everyone's attention, including yourself, to her?<br /> <br /> In short, What do You feel and think is the attraction; what makes you fascinated about Chris Chan?}}<br /> <br /> Geno answered Chris's inquiry at 1:10:28 as the final question of the video, stating that he found it fascinating due to how it cannot be replicated today and how Chris and various trolls created an entire fantasy world which Chris lived – and continues to live – in:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|The attraction is that the story of Chris Chan came about during a very interesting time on the internet: of course, because this could not technically really happen in real life as much as it did here. It was a difficult time on the internet where it was kinda like a Wild West situation, where there was a lot more focused on trolling and bullying and saying whatever the hell you want without any consequences. And people were getting in touch with the internet and posting videos and showing themselves off online a lot, without maybe understanding the consequences of what bad things might happen to them. You know, all the bullying that Chris took from the trolls, it's like a wonderful mix of belief in self mixed in with trolls' ambitions to work against or for that belief – to create this sort of fictional universe for Chris. Which [[Idea Guys|Chris ended up believing wholeheartedly]], recently. It's a product of its time, really. You can't really replicate it these days – because I think the internet has now a lot more safeguards against this sort of carry-on. And Chris is a very unique individual. I think you might know that very well. He's very unique, a product of his own upbringing and of his own [[autism]]. And that's what keeps me fascinated. It's almost like a fictional universe created artificially in a real life universe, you might say. Um, and I can understand how this can get really metaphysical because I kinda feel like the trolls and Chris kinda helped each other to create this fictional universe for each other. Though some people believed in it a lot more than others. And that's – I think – a big reason why Sonichu/Christine might think the same way about being the, uh, &quot;creator&quot; of real creations, because they are alive in a sense. If you believe in it, they are alive – the characters. You might treat them as alive to an extent. I think it's a bit too much to say that they do exist in an alternate dimension – I don't believe in that at all – but they do exist as much as you want them to exist. It's all up to you. It's all up to the human mind – each individual brain – what you think. It's all up to you – whether you want to improve yourself, or whether you want to go down this path or that path, whether you want to listen to your [[Mary Lee Walsh|superiors]] or not. It really is all up to you – and your world is whatever you want to make of it. Be it intentionally want to make of it or unintentionally want to make of it, consciously or subconsciously. And that's the story of why I find it fascinating.}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ===Video===<br /> {{Infobox/Fanvideo<br /> | name = 100k Q&amp;A<br /> | ytid = dcGzQrkKHo0<br /> | stardate = 13 [[December 2020]]<br /> | maker = Geno Samuel<br /> | subject = <br /> | type = <br /> | info = }}<br /> <br /> ==Influence==<br /> {{Incomplete|Information on Bella}}<br /> {{quote|I first fell in love with Christian Weston Chandler and thought I had a big brother when I watched the original run of Geno Samuel's documentaries.|Jacob Sockness&lt;ref name=sockness&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/drxzg7/am_i_responsible_for_the_sockness_saga/&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> Geno's documentary is often noted for either introducing many people to Christory or having an influence on it.<br /> <br /> * [[Jacob Sockness]]&lt;ref name=sockness&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;: An enabler who wanted to have sex with Chris.<br /> <br /> * [[The WCT]]&lt;ref name=&quot;WCTWiki&quot;&gt;[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 &quot;The WCT&quot; - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]&lt;/ref&gt;: A member of the [[Watchmen]] white knight/enabler group. While it's unknown whether WCT knew of Chris prior to the ''Comprehensive History'', WCT was &quot;fascinated&quot; by the series itself. WCT was also in GenoSamuel's Discord server where he met the Watchman member [[Naught]].<br /> <br /> * [[Bella]]{{cite}}: A troll who Chris confided in about his incestuous relationship with his mother.<br /> <br /> * [[The Suitress]]&lt;ref&gt;[https://archive.ph/cV5W0 I have a full-blown crush on CWC and I feel absolutely insane]&lt;/ref&gt;: A young woman and enabler who became infatuated with Chris. While she claimed to have been introduced to Chris through Deadwing Dork, she would also watch the series on end, and become an active member in the CWCSphere soon after.<br /> <br /> * [[KwaiiSandbag]]: An enabler who role-played as a psychic and influenced Chris to end his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu.<br /> <br /> ==Episodes (both original and revised)==<br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable&quot;<br /> |-<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Part<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Link<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Year(s)<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Event timeline<br /> |-<br /> |1<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgxj_0xPleg Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBvJa1xyE-4 Original])<br /> |1982-2000<br /> |[[1980s#1982|Birth]] to his [[Manchester High School#Graduation|high school graduation]].<br /> |-<br /> |2<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3QMqssyBwQ Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPdcWbBbUtY Original])<br /> |2000-2004<br /> |Enrollment in [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] to the [[autism papers]].<br /> |-<br /> |3<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxWLdbRv7Uo Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt-vXrZvQ20 Original])<br /> |2004-2006<br /> |[[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004|C-Mas 2004]] to Chris's graduation from PVCC.<br /> |-<br /> |4<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNxhKpigzY Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GiiN4XYfJQ Original])<br /> |2006-2007<br /> |Release of [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] to [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement|Chris's message]] to [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].<br /> |-<br /> |5<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxW4-_mCo-I Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9Z_tXdRKI Original])<br /> |2007-2008<br /> |Chris finally caving into [[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica|editing his ED page]] to the [[Sonichu Game Talk]] video.<br /> |-<br /> |6<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NncBco0Hck4 Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9Z_tXdRKI Original]) ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SdolXySgEUPAatIUWEOKStXuqjzaYBE9/view?usp=sharing Revised and Uncensored])<br /> |2008<br /> |Chris [[Blanca Emails, August 2008|emailing]] [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] about porn to the desecration of his [[Medallions#Mark 1 (and decoy)|medallion]].<br /> |-<br /> |7<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOnVFhqvUNM Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylhPXIXBTIE Original])<br /> |2008-2009<br /> |Chris [[Chris Chan Update 21 October 2008|crashing into slumber]] to [[Clyde Cash]] revealing himself.<br /> |-<br /> |8<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co6saw-Ik0o Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWSWmgqz8ok Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[CWC to Mr. Miyamoto-san]] to the Australian brushfires of [[2009]].<br /> |-<br /> |9<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WisyzQW9BYU Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pgO5MwN0pM Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[CWC Update 8 February 2009]] to Chris preparing for [[Aunt Corrina]]'s funeral.<br /> |-<br /> |10<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTjCsNGBKUo Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrODxoJKRz0 Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |Aunt Corrina's funeral to [[Robert Simmons V]]'s [[Church audio|church visit]].<br /> |-<br /> |11<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2tUU9ytpY8 Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3YzUZN2Hog Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Apology to Emily]] to [[YouTube Finale]].<br /> |-<br /> |12<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP_4JCZkiQ4 Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0IuVlvdug Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Encyclopedia Dramatica#1 April 2009|ED's 2009 April Fools' Day prank]] to the hacking of [[CWC's Sonichu Site!#cwcville.com (April 2009 – May 2009)|cwcville.com]].<br /> |-<br /> |13<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDffEuoQDtM Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8mpA_fSzcc Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[CWC only accepts IN-PERSON FEMALE Encounters]] to [[Do Not Dis C Ville]].<br /> |-<br /> |14<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-bD2Wyaec Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Chris humps his PS3|Chris humping his PS3]] to [[Liquid Chris]] [[SingStar Challenge Round 3#CChanSonichuCWC's Bonus Video|revealing]] Chris's [[Ian Brandon Anderson|&quot;real&quot; name]].<br /> |-<br /> |15<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EdNmDVOQow Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[C.W.C. - Thank You :)]] to [[LOOK at the truth!]].<br /> |-<br /> |16<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6A7czciKFA Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |Chris's ''circa'' August 2009 meeting with [[Kim Wilson]] and [[Kacey]] at Applebee's to [[Kacey Call 4]].<br /> |-<br /> |17<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBkuKp6OjUo Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |Chris's [[September 2009]] [[Death threats#Vivian Gee|death threat]] to [[Vivian Gee]] to [[Kacey Call 21]].<br /> |-<br /> |18<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlFJxKLBO0 Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Chris-chan Discusses...#Chris-chan Discusses... Transformers|Final installment]] of [[Chris-chan Discusses...|Chris's interview with Larry Bundy Jr.]] to [[To Clyde Gregg#Another One for Clyde Gregg|Another One for Clyde Gregg]].<br /> |-<br /> |19<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qDg0Vmp2g Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |Chris opening his &quot;[[YouTube#ClydeGreggCashMays (October 2009 – November 2009)|ClydeGreggCashMays]]&quot; account on YouTube to the [[Father Call]].<br /> |-<br /> |20<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r2MM9Aetv0 Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[11042009 51 50|Chris's 51 bicep curl video]] to the [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]].<br /> |-<br /> |21<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXE7QZntZtU Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Prank calls#Failed Prank Call|Failed Prank Call]] to Chris answering [[Mailbag 13]].<br /> |-<br /> |22<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38EZ7I8c-A Current]<br /> |2009-2010<br /> |[[Fanmail Reading|12102009 - Fanmail Reading.MP4]] to [[14 January 2010|01142010.MOV]].<br /> |-<br /> |23<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2FB0hHfrk0 Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[What's the Name, Christian Chandler, C H R I S C H A N]] to [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]].<br /> |-<br /> |24<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ffLGSfQf8o Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Apologies to Alec and Evan]] to Chris answering [[Mailbag 52]].<br /> |-<br /> |25<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5GgVLk2Tio Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8]] to the release of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].<br /> |-<br /> |26<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX_fOd7pFc4 Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9]] to [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV]].<br /> |-<br /> |27<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxYfdJxqY_M Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Cleveland Show Voice Rant]] to [[Greene County Conspiracy]].<br /> |-<br /> |28<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Cthb7G-pU Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[05142010|Yeardley Love video]] to [[JenkinsJinkies]]' [[User talk:JenkinsJinkies|conversation with Clyde]].<br /> |-<br /> |29<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tkCwNaX-A Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |Chris's [[McIntire Park#Independence Day Sighting|4 July 2010 visit]] to [[McIntire Park]] to [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW]].<br /> |-<br /> |30<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr6JgWWkV0 Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Stardate, August 27, 2010]] to [[Jackie E-mails 16]].<br /> |-<br /> |31<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdA9A8h_oYQ Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV]] to [[A Public Announcement for Congress]].<br /> |-<br /> |32<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQwREsoM3oc Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Pregnant Act]] to [[ToJackie]].<br /> |-<br /> |33<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE4ETdYm6tg Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Jackie E-mails 20]] to [[100 2357.MOV]].<br /> |-<br /> |34<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXtK2SqanQ Current]<br /> |2010 - 2011<br /> |[[Jackie E-mails 23]] to [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012]].<br /> |-<br /> |35<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJzngZrtp04 Current]<br /> |2011<br /> |Creation of the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum to [[The Red-Maned Deer]].<br /> |-<br /> |36<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOqLWF_iWns Current]<br /> |2011<br /> |[[Kaka Makeup Basics]] to the [[Rocky Shoemaker call]].<br /> |-<br /> |37<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx2CgXqdxMw Current]<br /> |2012<br /> |Chris's [[January 2012 Facebook Posts|January 2012]] [[Facebook]] posts to the [[28 October 2011|July 2012 settlement]] of the Michael Snyder case.<br /> |-<br /> |38<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBOyq64x8yk Current]<br /> |2012-2013<br /> |''[[Trollsta's Paradise: A True and Honest Tribute to Christian &amp; The Hedgehog Boys]]'' to Chris's [[September 2013 Facebook Posts|September 2013 Facebook posts]] about Lego minifigs.<br /> |-<br /> |39<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ Current]<br /> |2013-2014<br /> |[[October 2013 Facebook Posts|October 2013 Facebook posts]] to [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2013-2014]].<br /> |-<br /> |40<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_A-_W37qk Current]<br /> |2014<br /> |[[May 2014 Facebook Posts|May 2014 Facebook posts]] to him finishing his first leg of his date with [[Catherine]].<br /> |-<br /> |41<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55EsycjHeJs Current]<br /> |2014<br /> |Second leg of his date with [[Catherine]] to Chris addressing his reasoning for the [[Medallions#The Mr. Smith Situation|Mr. Smith situation]]. <br /> |-<br /> |42<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=karTjT_4Gbc Current]<br /> |2014<br /> |Start of the [[Sonic Boom Protests]] to the end of the [[Keep Sonic Original]] page.<br /> |-<br /> |43<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyNfJQbg9o8 Current]<br /> |2014-2015<br /> |[[Sonic Boom Protests#Pickle Joke|Possible reference to Chris's distaste for]] [[pickle]]s in an episode of ''Sonic Boom'' to [[March 2015 Facebook posts#Redundancy|a comment made by him on the official ''My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic'' Facebook page]] in March 2015. This is the first episode to use feminine pronouns to describe Chris.<br /> |-<br /> |44<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MdSQG0B_c Current]<br /> |2015<br /> |[[26 December 2014#2 April Hearing|Chris's second hearing]] for the Boxing Day macing to his [[July 2015 Facebook Posts#Endless Horror|&quot;Pink Fresh Lemonade&quot; drawing]]. Debuts a new version of the intro, using feminine pronouns.<br /> |-<br /> |45<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-v3Iefr58U Current]<br /> |2015<br /> |[[List of places that have banned Chris#Facebook|Chris's temporary ban from Facebook]] to [[Sonichu and Rosechu figure collection toy battle!]]<br /> |-<br /> |46<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtELwaQYTK0 Current]<br /> |2015<br /> |[[Donation Options Reviewed.]] to [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]].<br /> |-<br /> |47<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07p94FYn1zM Current]<br /> |2015-2016<br /> |[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#A Fun Visual|Chris' 1 December 2015 Facebook post about his bed]] to [[Update, 1/22/2016, and new items for Cwcville Shopping.]]<br /> |-<br /> |48<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INP-_0MDS9U Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[CatKnight Interview]] to [[Jeff is Beyond Denounced.]]<br /> |-<br /> |49<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8h-ja6dftY Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[Happy Pokémon Day.]] to [[Please, Donate]].<br /> |-<br /> |50<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPDwMta3fRs Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] to [[Donations Requested, Please]].<br /> |-<br /> |51<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qc3QE-E9Yw Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[Reading &quot;Unicorns, Rainbows, and a Bluebird of Happiness&quot; Chapter 1]] to Chris's Facebook [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|post]] regarding [[Chris and sex#Incest|incest]].<br /> |-<br /> |52<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os51Bmrr0Kw Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |Chris's [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Get off your ass, Cole!|Facebook announcement]] to [[Cole Smithey]] to [[Feelings of the election results]].<br /> |-<br /> |53<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsr45VigJs Current]<br /> |2016-2017<br /> |[[I Tweet AND Post Simultaneously]] to Chris's first interactions with [[DoopieDoOver]].<br /> |-<br /> |54<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUHnLlqY6SI Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[2017 tweets#Don't be blinded impulsively|Chris offering words of wisdom]] to [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 05052017]].<br /> |-<br /> |55<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgaHw3y66w Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[Live Drawing Streams#05082017|Chris's first ''Sonichu'' Issue #11 livestream]] to [[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris|Doopie confirming that she knew about Chris's old antics]].<br /> |-<br /> |56<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydR9nksHSg Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[July 2017 tweets#Chris downplays the macing incident while simping for the Planet Dolan crew|Chris interacting with the Planet Dolan crew]] to [[Night Star#Chris spills the beans|Chris revealing that he was behind the NightStar2891 account]].<br /> |-<br /> |57<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXZOVgot6a4 Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[August 2017 tweets#Chris's pizza observation|Chris's pizza observation]] to [[Jessica Quinn#Relationship with Kiwi Farms|Jessica Quinn's conversation with Moonman's Son]].<br /> |-<br /> |58<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f_aVxYQeHo Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[September 2017 Facebook posts#Jessica Quinn .3D Lovely Weather|Chris comparing Jessica Quinn to Lovely Weather]] to [[October 2017 tweets#Quinnspiracy|Chris rationalizing that Quinn wasn't a troll]].<br /> |-<br /> |59<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-1uVPwrs0 Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[Sonichu_12|Creation of Sonichu 12]] to [[Operation_BARBarossa|the Facebook post about Operation BARBarossa]].<br /> |-<br /> |60<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBN4_57TuMY Current]<br /> |2017-2018<br /> | [[November 2017 tweets#The only person with Heterochromia|Chris's tweet about a Heterochromia customization in Sonic Forces]] to [[February 2018 Facebook Posts#Christian Love Day|the Facebook post celebrating his 36th birthday]].<br /> |-<br /> |61<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40wYDbcfYEg Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | The growth of the amount of [[Idea Guys]] to [[April 2018 social media posts#Brainwashing from Idea Guys|a string of tweets Chris posted about his fetishes.]]<br /> |-<br /> |-<br /> |62<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHJ0x53ik34 Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[Twitch#CLog_04172018_-_Buy_My_Toys|Chris streaming on Twitch urging others to buy his eBay items]] to [[WE_NEED_MONEY_FOR_MORTGAGE_NOW,_PLEASE#Please.2C_HELP_US.21_FORECLOSURE_RISK_HIGH.21|a desperate plea video for monetary donations.]]<br /> |-<br /> |-<br /> |63<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVMhrr5xkMI Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[May 2018 social media posts#Chris gets a new phone, wants to sell old phone|A Twitter post of Chris attempting to sell his old phone on eBay]] to [[Nightstar_is_a_very_important_Special_Sonichu|a video in which he states the importance of his ponysona Night Star.]]<br /> |-<br /> |-<br /> |64<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa8HBIb1RMs Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[TooManyGames#At_the_con|Justin Silverman emailing Chris about his fundraising campaign to get to the convention]] to [[BronyCon_2018|Chris leaving BronyCon 2018.]]<br /> |-<br /> |65<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVF5KepFaxM Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[Waiting for the tow truck]] to [[Barbara Chandler will be making out autographed photos and posters.]]<br /> |-<br /> |66<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z9WHi2CMlg Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[August_2018_social_media_posts#So_where_is_the_Wikipedia_Article_about_me?|A tweet from Chris in which he asks for the whereabouts of his Wikipedia page]] to [[Misc_texts#Sorbet_deceased|a text message in which Chris states his lost cat Sorbet had died and merged with his counterpart in the sister dimension.]]<br /> |-<br /> |67<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXKgagZawBI Current]<br /> |2018-2019<br /> |Description.<br /> |-<br /> |68<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XneFqMrLLNw Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |Description.<br /> |-<br /> |69<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJdb6HBw78 Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |Description.<br /> |-<br /> |70<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw9OtvE0r6Q Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[Bryanfrogboy]]'s prequel video to [[Sarah and Steve]] defending their enabling on [[Twitter]].<br /> |-<br /> |71<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mRucAOtJZw&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1 Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[Pappy Van Poodle Interview]] to _.<br /> |-<br /> |72<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHyuvFpEXak Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[Misc_texts#Thinking_of_selling_bath_water|Thinking of selling bath water]] to [[First recorded statement of Magi-Chan Sonichu - August 15, 2019]].<br /> |-<br /> |73<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvPvr-D9nZI Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[August_2019_social_media_posts#Chris_and_Magi-Chan_are_luminaries|Chris and Magi-Chan are luminaries]] to [[October_2019_social_media_posts#Chris_orders_the_Shipfic_cards,_snaps_at_customers_wanting_books|Chris orders the Shipfic cards, snaps at customers wanting books]].<br /> |-<br /> |74<br /> |[https://youtu.be/pyWoYB0ppLk Current]<br /> |2019-2023<br /> |An April fools joke that gives a false good ending to Christory.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Fan videos==<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> |name= Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Without Context<br /> | stardate = 10 [[February 2021]]<br /> |video= {{#ev:youtube|dEbBW3SsP88}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Geno Samuel]]<br /> *[[Geno Samuel DMs]]<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHwMkmOmNeJr-M8SR6lzuwIgfFZHnTau1 Playlist of old version]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm Playlist of current version]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-1XyJSh9umIGMBHqFIOq-MJxVPOLfG50 Playlist of a mixture of old and current]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_3pplzbKMZsP5zBH_6SVJQ/featured?disable_polymer=1 Geno's backup channel]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/user/GenoSamuel1994Part2 Geno's main channel]<br /> <br /> {{Documentaries}}<br /> {{People}}<br /> {{Articleofthenow}}<br /> [[Category:Pages with fan videos]]<br /> [[Category:Media that has been published in real life]]<br /> [[Category:Documentaries]]</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=March_2023&diff=304001 2023-04-01T04:26:58Z

<p>Homsar: It's Ogre</p> <hr /> <div><br /> [[File:Chris mugshot 27 March 2023.png|thumb|Chris in March.]]<br /> '''March''' is the third month of [[2023]]. It saw a case review, and another continuance. Chris was released from the [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] late in the month.<br /> <br /> ==Notable events==<br /> *'''7 March''' - [[Chris]]'s [[incest case]] was up for review at 9:30 a.m. and ended in a continuance.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 7 March 2023.png]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *'''10 March'''<br /> ** Midland Funding files its second garnishment case against Chris for unpaid [[debt]]; the hearing is set for 26 [[April 2023]].&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:Court Record - 2023 Midland Funding, Garnishment (Chris, GV18000451-02).png]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ** [[Praetor]] adds an listing called &quot;The Secret Listing&quot; to their [[Etsy]] page for $40.00 apiece. The item is said to feature an &quot;authentic Chandler autograph&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.etsy.com/listing/1414947692/the-secret-listing?show_sold_out_detail=1&amp;ref=nla_listing_details&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *'''11 March''' - [[Kiwi Farms]] user themarchivist2 [[March 2023 Praetor Interview|has an exchange]] with Praetor over Gmail. Praetor claims that the secret Etsy items are [[taser|tasers]] signed by Chris. Praetor also discusses Chris's current condition.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:Praetor interview - 11 March 2023.png]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *'''27 March''' - Chris is reported by VineLink to be out of custody and a new mugshot is provided. At 10:04 AM, VineLink reports that Chris is &quot;bonded out&quot; of custody;&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:VineLink Out of Custody 27 March 2023.png]]&lt;/ref&gt; at 1:49 PM, VineLink revises this to report that Chris was &quot;Released by Court Order&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:VineLink Out of Custody 27 March 2023 - 1 49 pm update.png]]&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> {{References}}<br /> {{timeline}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=April_2023&diff=304000 2023-04-01T04:26:22Z

<p>Homsar: April Fools</p> <hr /> <div>{{ongoing}}<br /> '''April''' is the fourth month of [[2023]].<br /> <br /> ==Notable events==<br /> * '''7-9 April''' - Chris will unfortunately miss out on yet another [[BABSCon]], an unofficial [[My Little Pony]] convention held in San Francisco,&lt;ref&gt;https://10times.com/babscon&lt;/ref&gt; which he was unable to attend [[April 2022|last year]].<br /> * '''26 April''' - A hearing is scheduled for Midland Funding's garnishment case against Chris.&lt;ref&gt;[[:File:Court Record - 2023 Midland Funding, Garnishment (Chris, GV18000451-02).png]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{References}}<br /> {{timeline}}</div>

Homsar https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Chris_Chan:_A_Comprehensive_History&diff=303432 2023-03-18T22:52:40Z

<p>Homsar: /* Episodes (both original and revised) */</p> <hr /> <div>{{quote|Chris Chan. Arguably the most documented person in history.<br /> <br /> His antics have been witnessed by millions, with many always keeping a close eye on him, waiting to see what he does next.<br /> <br /> What made him this way? What is the attraction? What keeps us fascinated?<br /> <br /> This is the story of Chris Chan.|[[Geno Samuel]]'s opening narration for the series, usually condensed to the last two lines after the premiere; starting in Part XLIV, feminine pronouns are used instead.}}<br /> <br /> '''''Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History''''' is a documentary [[Internet|webseries]] created by [[Geno Samuel]], which began in [[February 2018]]. It is, as the name suggests, an extensive, in-depth documentary about [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s life, similar to [[Chris Chan Documentary (Sachumo)|Sachumo]]'s. However, while Sachumo's film is an abridged summary of Chris's life for newcomers, Geno's videos go into greater detail, with most videos being between 35 to 45 minutes in length, with a decent portion of this being tied to the playback of Chris's own audio and video. As of Part LXXII, the documentary series is 2 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 11 seconds long.<br /> <br /> The series is in chronological order, taking several videos just to cover Chris's life before his internet fame, with a significant portion of the series (28 episodes) dedicated to [[Saga|the troll-influenced events of 2009 and 2010]] – trolls had prodded Chris into producing many calls and videos at the time, which the series utilizes for playback. It presents the events of Chris's life in a mostly objective light, allowing watchers to pass their own judgment on Chris and the people around him. Nonetheless, Geno occasionally slips in dry, blunt observations over [[Chris and hypocrisy|Chris's shortcomings]], along with summaries of how Chris's problems manifest themselves and worsen over time. Furthermore, he also manages to maintain a completely neutral, deadpan tone of voice when discussing the absolute absurdities present in Chris's life, and he reads spelling errors precisely as they are written, which leads to some of the documentary's most humorous moments despite being an overview of Chris's life.<br /> <br /> Geno's narration also reflects Chris's changes in identity throughout the series, [[Christopher's name change|initially referring to him as &quot;Christopher&quot; before changing it to &quot;Christian&quot; in the first episode]] and using masculine pronouns for the bulk of the show's run, eventually shifting over to [[Transgender|calling Chris &quot;Christine&quot; and using feminine pronouns]] by the time that the series reaches the events of late [[2014]], when Chris began to transition. It remains to be seen if he will eventually revert to using masculine pronouns during Chris's extended period of being &quot;[[Spirit possession|possessed]]&quot; by [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] through most of [[2020]] and part of [[2021]], although he has used masculine pronouns to describe Chris's past antics after this period in time. Beginning with Episode 61, Geno began altering the theme music to represent the [[Idea Guys]] saga. Since the saga in question ended in Episode 62, Geno has said that it would be reverted back in Episode 63, although a distorted, reversed version of the theme has consistently played over the credits since then.&lt;ref&gt;https://youtu.be/W3K30u0T5gI?t=1091/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> The series is still ongoing, its latest episode covering events up to late [[October 2018]], and though Geno initially predicted that it would be around 50 episodes long by the time he reached the present day, the fiftieth episode ended up only reaching the events of mid-[[2016]]. Geno has since predicted that he would reach modern Christory by the eighty-ninth episode&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/genosamuelgeno/status/1517274668004118528/&lt;/ref&gt;, meaning that he has a laid out plan for the documentary. Once he's &quot;caught up&quot; with [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]], Geno plans to continue the series incrementally until it ultimately reaches [[Chris and death#Chris himself (1982–)|its logical conclusion]]. [[Christorical eras|It will take a while to get to the present, in any case]].<br /> <br /> The documentary series has inspired a considerable amount of new discussion related to Chris, which has predictably produced more [[Weening|weens]] who mistakenly think that &quot;modern&quot; Chris acts like he once did during the so-called &quot;Classic Era&quot; – much of the context behind trolling was never publicly released by Chris's trolls, making it appear as if many of Chris's actions during troll sagas were his own ideas. The documentary itself eventually ended up being a part of Christory in a more direct fashion, as several people who would go on to interact with Chris either found out about him, or were influenced by, the series. Furthermore, Chris is aware of the series, and has commented on it several times over [[Twitter]] and [[YouTube]], usually expressing approval of Geno's attention to detail.<br /> <br /> In light of the [[Affair with Mother|incest]] reveal, Geno, like everyone else, was utterly flabbergasted by the extremely dark turn that Christory took.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/genosamuelgeno/status/1421139988138188804&lt;/ref&gt; Geno then announced, via his [[Patreon]], that the series would be taking an extended hiatus following the release of Episode 59. He explained that he felt that it would be potentially tasteless and exploitative to continue the series immediately after Chris's appalling actions came to light, so he informed his patrons that he would not be completing and releasing new episodes of the series until early 2022.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.patreon.com/posts/stopping-now-54330974&lt;/ref&gt; During that time, Geno redirected his attention to work on his other documentaries and music projects. The series officially resumed on 24 February 2022, [[Chris's birthday|Chris's 40th birthday]].<br /> <br /> ==History==<br /> <br /> Geno attempted to monetize his GenoSamuel2 channel. On 13 [[June 2018|June of that year]], when it was his turn to be reviewed by YouTube staff for the monetization program, they instead issued community guideline strikes due to the clips of bullying featured in the videos, and as a result his channel was terminated.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/bpe1lz/its_coming_cant_wait_for_the_new_material/enu9fug/&lt;/ref&gt; Geno confirmed that he did send an appeal form, but YouTube never gave him his channel back. Fans reuploaded all of the episodes made prior to the strike and Geno created a new backup channel on YouTube where the series would be uploaded from then on.<br /> <br /> A week later, Geno revealed on the backup channel he would be taking a long break from the videos, stating that he was getting tired of always having to have Chris in his mind when making the documentary. He said that he will continue working on them sometime near the end of the year.<br /> <br /> On 3 [[January 2019]], he announced on his [[Twitter]] in the form of a teaser poster that the series would be coming back on 24 [[February 2019]], which also happens to be [[Chris's birthday|Chris's birthday]]. The new series contains updated audio, additional and corrected information and some modifications to prevent another takedown. He also mentioned that he would not be monetizing the videos out of respect.<br /> <br /> Geno said that Chris knew of the original run of the series and approved of it.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyrkBzO-WY8&amp;t&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In [[July 2020]], Geno announced the series would go on hiatus again until [[August 2020|August]]; however, the series resumed slightly earlier than expected, as Part 41 premiered on 31 July.<br /> <br /> On 14 September, Geno posted a message explaining why he decided to use feminine pronouns to refer to Chris beginning from Part 43:&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/post/UgyQY_S-ex_qB7nUns94AaABCQ [https://web.archive.org/web/20211002154846/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_3pplzbKMZsP5zBH_6SVJQ/community?lb=UgyQY_S-ex_qB7nUns94AaABCQ (archive)]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[[Sonic Boom Protests|CHRIS CHAN’S PRONOUNS ARE NOT SHE/HER, AND THEY SERIOUSLY CAUSE SENSORY OVERLOADS IN ME!!! GENO NEEDS TO RECALL EVERYTHING REFERRING TO HIM AS A WOMAN AND CHANGE CHRIS’ GENDER BACK IMMEDIATELY!!!]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[My Little Pony Protests|FOLLOW ME IN BOYCOTTING ''CHRIS CHAN: A COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY'', UNTIL GENO WISES UP, RECALLS EVERYTHING AND CHANGES HIS PRONOUNS BACK, NOW!!!]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!|Join My Group, FIX CHRIS CHAN’S PRONOUNS IMMEDIATELY, GENO!!!, and Sign Our Petition NOW!!!]]&lt;br&gt;<br /> https://www.facebook.com/groups/fixCHRISCHANSpronounsImmediatelyGENO&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[Christian Weston Chandler|This is what you sound like.]]<br /> <br /> But seriously, yes, the transition happened, and has already caused an uproar which I doubt will subside. This would have happened anyway if I didn’t change it; I would have a different vocal minority yelling about it. <br /> The change does not reflect my personal opinions, and even if they did, the star of the series’ name now would still be “Christine.” I must deal with the reality at hand. I started calling Christopher “Christian” [[Christopher's name change|when he wanted to be called that]], and now I just started referring to her as a woman with the name of “Christine.” The video series should not be seen as a voice of reason, or as a preacher with a message. It is an opportunity to give Chris a voice, and to offer a better understanding of her thoughts through the very many experiences meticulously documented in her life. It is up to you to make whatever you want with the information given. As the [[Anchuent Prophecy|ancient]] [[Cherokian Clan|Indian]] proverb goes, “[[Pmurt|It is what it is.]]”}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Donald Trump - A Comprehensive History.PNG|thumb|200px|Some of the altered episode names and thumbnails]]<br /> [[File:ChrisGenoAprilFoolsReaction.jpeg|thumb|200px|left|Chris's complaint to Geno about the April Fool's joke.]]<br /> <br /> On 1 [[April 2021]], Geno commemorated April Fool's Day by changing the title of the series to ''[[Pmurt|Donald Trump: A Comprehensive History]]'', and altered the thumbnails of every video in the series to include images of him.&lt;ref&gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20210401070110/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm WayBack Machine: 1 April 2021]&lt;/ref&gt; The content of the videos themselves, however, remained unchanged. Chris did not take kindly to this, privately messaging Geno over Twitter to complain about the alteration. <br /> <br /> On 31 [[July 2021]], Geno decided to put the series on hiatus following the release of Episode 59, in light of the incest situation. He had originally planned to do so after Episode 60, but opted to take a break from the series for multiple reasons.<br /> <br /> On 1 [[October 2021]], Geno was featured on [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcmxOGYGF51T1XsqQLewGtQ TrashTaste], a podcast featuring a group of anime YouTubers, thereby exposing Chris to millions of weebs everywhere. In the podcast Geno expressed his desire to also follow his other passions, not wanting to be known as &quot;The Chris Chan guy&quot;. When asked how many episodes were possibly left, he replied &lt;q&gt;maybe another 10 episodes&lt;/q&gt;. He also said &lt;q&gt;if the opportunity arises… if I can get something done with Netflix, this could be a stepping stone.&lt;/q&gt;&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciJamr2z1Q&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;!--On 26 [[January 2022]], Geno released an update for Part LX (60) on his Patreon page.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.patreon.com/posts/chris-chan-part-61667624&lt;/ref&gt; Seems unnecessary, uncomment if you disagree--&gt;<br /> On 24 [[February 2022]], After a 208-day hiatus, Part LX gets released.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBN4_57TuMY&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> On 1 [[April 2022]], Geno did another April Fool's Day joke by changing his username to Tekken Time Bomb and swapping all of the titles and thumbnails of the videos with clickbait on subjects unrelated to Chris, renaming the playlist &quot;Freshest Videos&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20220401133734/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm WayBack Machine: 1 April 2022]&lt;/ref&gt; Nonetheless, the titles and thumbnails all cleverly alluded to details discussed in the videos themselves.<br /> <br /> ==Mentions by Chris==<br /> In [[August 2019]], Chris, while in his phase of role-playing as [[Magi-Chan]], began &quot;binge-listening&quot; to the series&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165401077619073024&lt;/ref&gt; (suggesting that, like with the [[Sachumo]] documentary, Chris couldn't bear to actually watch the videos). Chris would make comments on the videos as Magi-Chan via Twitter, and as himself in YouTube's comment section.<br /> <br /> Chris's interest in the series continued after his phrase of role-playing as Magi-Chan ended, eventually watching the series as opposed to just listening.<br /> <br /> *&quot;quite curious, when you think about it, from the ''Animal Crossing'' Video, Christine calls for ''Sonic Heroes'' being GameCube exclusive; she gave premonition to the Nintendo-Exclusive ''Sonic'' titles.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165329837071962117&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *He noted exactly which cartoons and games [[Megan Schroeder]] had introduced him to over a decade prior &quot;just for the record and Megan's reference&quot;, those being ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' and ''Tekken'' OC Yoshimitsu, also saying he'd been a fan of ''[[My Little Pony]]'' and ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' before meeting Megan.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165401077619073024&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *&quot;You made me laugh when you stiltedly read, 'You don't have to tell me twice. But back in the Stone Age...' Just simply how you said it cracked me up.&lt;br&gt;Reminder, the end of that joke is,&lt;br&gt;'...you Really needed to tell them twice'; you couldn't get it through their heads at all.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1165401077619073024&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *Chris viewed his past homophobia with regret.&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/MagiChan111448/status/1166479203585466368&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *Chris commented on Part 24 in YouTube's comment section, claiming that he had known [[Alec Benson Leary]] was a troll, among other dubious remarks:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I remember those times, and it was cringing to hear myself drone ON and ON just in thinking he was going to clear those ads from my old website. [[Lie|Subconsciously, I had always Known he and his crew were Trolling me the whole time]], and it showed in how I reacted later on. And, yet, while partly oblivious, I Was Trolling Alec At the time. And I take no shame in it, because he was Trolling Me. I saw through his charade and showed it in how he treated everyone in my few pages, as he had already done, and worse, in his pages. It only added fuel to the nobility of pulling the plug on the [[Cwcipedia]] to save myself, my arts, and my peoples and family, he from the shit I was having to deal with from those bastards. [[PsychicPowers|Psychic Powers]] were strong within me in the later part of this video. And they have only gotten stronger over the years into now, despite my having the many more trials to endure and learn from.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ffLGSfQf8o&amp;lc=UgxvWUOajowz_kPacNd4AaABAg Link to video], and [https://web.archive.org/web/20191023182218/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://youtu.be/1ffLGSfQf8o archive.org's screenshot of the comments section.]&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *Chris tweeted on Part 31, about the [[100 2270]] video he filmed on 7 October 2010:&lt;ref&gt;https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1236699315302797312&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|[[File:Chris watches CCCS Part 31.jpg|thumb|200px]]<br /> <br /> This Part, starting from 16:30, I forgot I made this video. It was soo Stupid, it is genuinely hilarious. <br /> <br /> Rolling on the floor laughing<br /> <br /> I guess it was in the high-energetic, loud voice I used that day to imitate Liquid Chris. ALOL!<br /> <br /> “yamosexual”? Get ready for a meme of that word.}}<br /> <br /> In summer 2020, during Chris's phase of [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], Chris continued commenting on the series.<br /> <br /> *About Part 38, Chris laughed about the goofy facial expressions he had made in [[Message for John Kyle]].&lt;ref&gt;[[May 2020 social media posts#Chris talks about Genosamuel's Documentary]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> *About Part 39, an angry Chris complained about Geno reading an e-mail from the [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2013-2014]] collection in which Chris had privately talked about [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|shoving his own penis into his buttcrack]]. He also whined about Geno's coverage of the [[2014 house fire|house fire]].<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|Hey! Firstly, that door to the bathroom downstairs was unable to close at all back in 2013 and early ‘14. Second, Why the Hell would you read that personal shit about [[Mama]] with [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2013-2014#Chris fucks himself|the penis thing]]? [[God complex|Oh, My Chris Chan]]! Why did [[Kim Wilson|Kim]] have to be such a literal [[Troll]] to totally expose these things when they were shared with her in strictest confidence? “Kim Wilson”, if that is even your real name at this point, Mama may forgive you to an extent, but I, Sonichu, am truly insulted by this shit stunt you’ve pulled with her trust in betrayal over the years.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ&amp;lc=UgzdoujDjuYP-1upCml4AaABAg&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About part 42, Chris commented on the [[Brushfire Video]]:<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|For the record, when Mama recorded that putting out the fire video, she and Barb were literally still recovering from the house fire earlier that year. Sight of fire gave Mama a whole bunch of PTSD for the number of years.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=karTjT_4Gbc&amp;lc=UgwK8W6anDfgeWo3YGR4AaABAg&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About part 44, Chris thanked Geno for referring to him with his preferred pronouns, as the series had entered the point of Chris's [[transgender]]ism.<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow| Finally, you got the pronoun right with Mama Chris Chan; thanks, Geno. Better late than never. 😊⚡️&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MdSQG0B_c&amp;lc=Ugzapm793HOq50Jjq7p4AaABAg&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> After the Sonichu spirit possession ended, Chris still commented on videos- albeit as Chris himself, once more.<br /> <br /> *About Part 52, Chris commented on his distaste of [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]] and the predictions he made.<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|I predicted how horribly Trump was going to do. Who was right all along? Me. ⚡️💙⚡️<br /> Trump was a Mean King, and he did not get our votes then or again.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os51Bmrr0Kw&amp;lc=UgwYOZd_fR_CdoQ_K-l4AaABAg&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About Part 54, Chris made a [[Random-access humor|joke]] regarding the episode's Roman numbering (LIV).<br /> {{quotebox|Part LIVe! On the Internet!&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUHnLlqY6SI&amp;lc=UgzA39cP4b-MEVr78AN4AaABAg&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> *About Part 56, Chris promoted the as-of-yet unreleased next episode of the series, claiming it would cover the events of the [[Idea Guys]] saga.<br /> {{quotebox|Tune in next video for Idea Guy, Johnson Wiles, and Stephen Boyd, or that, among which, is chronicled in “Awakening of a CPU”.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydR9nksHSg&amp;lc=Ugx3w3o9-QZT0EL3Tb54AaABAg&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> Part 57 did not, in fact, bring up the Idea Guys. They eventually made their first appearance only by Part 59.<br /> <br /> *In July 2021, [[The WCT]] and Chris discussed the series and potential upcoming episodes. Chris believed that &quot;[[Spirit possession|the ten and a half months when Sonichu Prime and I were body-swapped]]&quot; would be one of the last sagas people would find entertaining.&lt;ref&gt;[[WCT DMs#Bismuth and Geno]]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{clear}}<br /> <br /> ==What is the attraction?==<br /> <br /> In his 100k subscriber Q&amp;A special uploaded in December of 2020, Geno answered a question Chris had posted from the CwcvilleGuardian account. Roleplaying as Sonichu, Chris asked what Geno believed to be the draw of himself and life story.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcGzQrkKHo0&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{quoteboxyellow|Hey, Geno. I, Sonichu, offer a sentiment of support and kind thoughts in response to this. Congratulations, Dude. But I do have a question, as well (feel free to get really Metaphysical about it; break your own fourth walls). Given every single possibility between this and all other dimensions in this Omega timeline set we live in, including that Mama Chris Chan, herself, being the OC of OCs, could also have been [[Messiah complex|a creator of all Original Creators, including yourself]], if not that one major influential aspect, What do you feel is the most significant factor that attracts everyone's attention, including yourself, to her?<br /> <br /> In short, What do You feel and think is the attraction; what makes you fascinated about Chris Chan?}}<br /> <br /> Geno answered Chris's inquiry at 1:10:28 as the final question of the video, stating that he found it fascinating due to how it cannot be replicated today and how Chris and various trolls created an entire fantasy world which Chris lived – and continues to live – in:<br /> <br /> {{quotebox|The attraction is that the story of Chris Chan came about during a very interesting time on the internet: of course, because this could not technically really happen in real life as much as it did here. It was a difficult time on the internet where it was kinda like a Wild West situation, where there was a lot more focused on trolling and bullying and saying whatever the hell you want without any consequences. And people were getting in touch with the internet and posting videos and showing themselves off online a lot, without maybe understanding the consequences of what bad things might happen to them. You know, all the bullying that Chris took from the trolls, it's like a wonderful mix of belief in self mixed in with trolls' ambitions to work against or for that belief – to create this sort of fictional universe for Chris. Which [[Idea Guys|Chris ended up believing wholeheartedly]], recently. It's a product of its time, really. You can't really replicate it these days – because I think the internet has now a lot more safeguards against this sort of carry-on. And Chris is a very unique individual. I think you might know that very well. He's very unique, a product of his own upbringing and of his own [[autism]]. And that's what keeps me fascinated. It's almost like a fictional universe created artificially in a real life universe, you might say. Um, and I can understand how this can get really metaphysical because I kinda feel like the trolls and Chris kinda helped each other to create this fictional universe for each other. Though some people believed in it a lot more than others. And that's – I think – a big reason why Sonichu/Christine might think the same way about being the, uh, &quot;creator&quot; of real creations, because they are alive in a sense. If you believe in it, they are alive – the characters. You might treat them as alive to an extent. I think it's a bit too much to say that they do exist in an alternate dimension – I don't believe in that at all – but they do exist as much as you want them to exist. It's all up to you. It's all up to the human mind – each individual brain – what you think. It's all up to you – whether you want to improve yourself, or whether you want to go down this path or that path, whether you want to listen to your [[Mary Lee Walsh|superiors]] or not. It really is all up to you – and your world is whatever you want to make of it. Be it intentionally want to make of it or unintentionally want to make of it, consciously or subconsciously. And that's the story of why I find it fascinating.}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ===Video===<br /> {{Infobox/Fanvideo<br /> | name = 100k Q&amp;A<br /> | ytid = dcGzQrkKHo0<br /> | stardate = 13 [[December 2020]]<br /> | maker = Geno Samuel<br /> | subject = <br /> | type = <br /> | info = }}<br /> <br /> ==Influence==<br /> {{Incomplete|Information on Bella}}<br /> {{quote|I first fell in love with Christian Weston Chandler and thought I had a big brother when I watched the original run of Geno Samuel's documentaries.|Jacob Sockness&lt;ref name=sockness&gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/drxzg7/am_i_responsible_for_the_sockness_saga/&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> Geno's documentary is often noted for either introducing many people to Christory or having an influence on it.<br /> <br /> * [[Jacob Sockness]]&lt;ref name=sockness&gt;&lt;/ref&gt;: An enabler who wanted to have sex with Chris.<br /> <br /> * [[The WCT]]&lt;ref name=&quot;WCTWiki&quot;&gt;[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 &quot;The WCT&quot; - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]&lt;/ref&gt;: A member of the [[Watchmen]] white knight/enabler group. While it's unknown whether WCT knew of Chris prior to the ''Comprehensive History'', WCT was &quot;fascinated&quot; by the series itself. WCT was also in GenoSamuel's Discord server where he met the Watchman member [[Naught]].<br /> <br /> * [[Bella]]{{cite}}: A troll who Chris confided in about his incestuous relationship with his mother.<br /> <br /> * [[The Suitress]]&lt;ref&gt;[https://archive.ph/cV5W0 I have a full-blown crush on CWC and I feel absolutely insane]&lt;/ref&gt;: A young woman and enabler who became infatuated with Chris. While she claimed to have been introduced to Chris through Deadwing Dork, she would also watch the series on end, and become an active member in the CWCSphere soon after.<br /> <br /> * [[KwaiiSandbag]]: An enabler who role-played as a psychic and influenced Chris to end his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu.<br /> <br /> ==Episodes (both original and revised)==<br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable&quot;<br /> |-<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Part<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Link<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Year(s)<br /> !align=&quot;left&quot;|Event timeline<br /> |-<br /> |1<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgxj_0xPleg Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBvJa1xyE-4 Original])<br /> |1982-2000<br /> |[[1980s#1982|Birth]] to his [[Manchester High School#Graduation|high school graduation]].<br /> |-<br /> |2<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3QMqssyBwQ Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPdcWbBbUtY Original])<br /> |2000-2004<br /> |Enrollment in [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] to the [[autism papers]].<br /> |-<br /> |3<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxWLdbRv7Uo Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt-vXrZvQ20 Original])<br /> |2004-2006<br /> |[[ChandlerFamilyChristmas2004|C-Mas 2004]] to Chris's graduation from PVCC.<br /> |-<br /> |4<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNxhKpigzY Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GiiN4XYfJQ Original])<br /> |2006-2007<br /> |Release of [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] to [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement|Chris's message]] to [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].<br /> |-<br /> |5<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxW4-_mCo-I Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9Z_tXdRKI Original])<br /> |2007-2008<br /> |Chris finally caving into [[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica|editing his ED page]] to the [[Sonichu Game Talk]] video.<br /> |-<br /> |6<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NncBco0Hck4 Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9Z_tXdRKI Original]) ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SdolXySgEUPAatIUWEOKStXuqjzaYBE9/view?usp=sharing Revised and Uncensored])<br /> |2008<br /> |Chris [[Blanca Emails, August 2008|emailing]] [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] about porn to the desecration of his [[Medallions#Mark 1 (and decoy)|medallion]].<br /> |-<br /> |7<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOnVFhqvUNM Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylhPXIXBTIE Original])<br /> |2008-2009<br /> |Chris [[Chris Chan Update 21 October 2008|crashing into slumber]] to [[Clyde Cash]] revealing himself.<br /> |-<br /> |8<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co6saw-Ik0o Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWSWmgqz8ok Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[CWC to Mr. Miyamoto-san]] to the Australian brushfires of [[2009]].<br /> |-<br /> |9<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WisyzQW9BYU Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pgO5MwN0pM Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[CWC Update 8 February 2009]] to Chris preparing for [[Aunt Corrina]]'s funeral.<br /> |-<br /> |10<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTjCsNGBKUo Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrODxoJKRz0 Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |Aunt Corrina's funeral to [[Robert Simmons V]]'s [[Church audio|church visit]].<br /> |-<br /> |11<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2tUU9ytpY8 Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3YzUZN2Hog Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Apology to Emily]] to [[YouTube Finale]].<br /> |-<br /> |12<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP_4JCZkiQ4 Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0IuVlvdug Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Encyclopedia Dramatica#1 April 2009|ED's 2009 April Fools' Day prank]] to the hacking of [[CWC's Sonichu Site!#cwcville.com (April 2009 – May 2009)|cwcville.com]].<br /> |-<br /> |13<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDffEuoQDtM Current] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8mpA_fSzcc Original])<br /> |2009<br /> |[[CWC only accepts IN-PERSON FEMALE Encounters]] to [[Do Not Dis C Ville]].<br /> |-<br /> |14<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-bD2Wyaec Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Chris humps his PS3|Chris humping his PS3]] to [[Liquid Chris]] [[SingStar Challenge Round 3#CChanSonichuCWC's Bonus Video|revealing]] Chris's [[Ian Brandon Anderson|&quot;real&quot; name]].<br /> |-<br /> |15<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EdNmDVOQow Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[C.W.C. - Thank You :)]] to [[LOOK at the truth!]].<br /> |-<br /> |16<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6A7czciKFA Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |Chris's ''circa'' August 2009 meeting with [[Kim Wilson]] and [[Kacey]] at Applebee's to [[Kacey Call 4]].<br /> |-<br /> |17<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBkuKp6OjUo Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |Chris's [[September 2009]] [[Death threats#Vivian Gee|death threat]] to [[Vivian Gee]] to [[Kacey Call 21]].<br /> |-<br /> |18<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlFJxKLBO0 Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Chris-chan Discusses...#Chris-chan Discusses... Transformers|Final installment]] of [[Chris-chan Discusses...|Chris's interview with Larry Bundy Jr.]] to [[To Clyde Gregg#Another One for Clyde Gregg|Another One for Clyde Gregg]].<br /> |-<br /> |19<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qDg0Vmp2g Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |Chris opening his &quot;[[YouTube#ClydeGreggCashMays (October 2009 – November 2009)|ClydeGreggCashMays]]&quot; account on YouTube to the [[Father Call]].<br /> |-<br /> |20<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r2MM9Aetv0 Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[11042009 51 50|Chris's 51 bicep curl video]] to the [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]].<br /> |-<br /> |21<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXE7QZntZtU Current]<br /> |2009<br /> |[[Prank calls#Failed Prank Call|Failed Prank Call]] to Chris answering [[Mailbag 13]].<br /> |-<br /> |22<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38EZ7I8c-A Current]<br /> |2009-2010<br /> |[[Fanmail Reading|12102009 - Fanmail Reading.MP4]] to [[14 January 2010|01142010.MOV]].<br /> |-<br /> |23<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2FB0hHfrk0 Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[What's the Name, Christian Chandler, C H R I S C H A N]] to [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]].<br /> |-<br /> |24<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ffLGSfQf8o Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Apologies to Alec and Evan]] to Chris answering [[Mailbag 52]].<br /> |-<br /> |25<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5GgVLk2Tio Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8]] to the release of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].<br /> |-<br /> |26<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX_fOd7pFc4 Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9]] to [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV]].<br /> |-<br /> |27<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxYfdJxqY_M Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Cleveland Show Voice Rant]] to [[Greene County Conspiracy]].<br /> |-<br /> |28<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Cthb7G-pU Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[05142010|Yeardley Love video]] to [[JenkinsJinkies]]' [[User talk:JenkinsJinkies|conversation with Clyde]].<br /> |-<br /> |29<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tkCwNaX-A Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |Chris's [[McIntire Park#Independence Day Sighting|4 July 2010 visit]] to [[McIntire Park]] to [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW]].<br /> |-<br /> |30<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr6JgWWkV0 Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Stardate, August 27, 2010]] to [[Jackie E-mails 16]].<br /> |-<br /> |31<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdA9A8h_oYQ Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV]] to [[A Public Announcement for Congress]].<br /> |-<br /> |32<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQwREsoM3oc Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Pregnant Act]] to [[ToJackie]].<br /> |-<br /> |33<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE4ETdYm6tg Current]<br /> |2010<br /> |[[Jackie E-mails 20]] to [[100 2357.MOV]].<br /> |-<br /> |34<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXtK2SqanQ Current]<br /> |2010 - 2011<br /> |[[Jackie E-mails 23]] to [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2011-2012]].<br /> |-<br /> |35<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJzngZrtp04 Current]<br /> |2011<br /> |Creation of the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum to [[The Red-Maned Deer]].<br /> |-<br /> |36<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOqLWF_iWns Current]<br /> |2011<br /> |[[Kaka Makeup Basics]] to the [[Rocky Shoemaker call]].<br /> |-<br /> |37<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx2CgXqdxMw Current]<br /> |2012<br /> |Chris's [[January 2012 Facebook Posts|January 2012]] [[Facebook]] posts to the [[28 October 2011|July 2012 settlement]] of the Michael Snyder case.<br /> |-<br /> |38<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBOyq64x8yk Current]<br /> |2012-2013<br /> |''[[Trollsta's Paradise: A True and Honest Tribute to Christian &amp; The Hedgehog Boys]]'' to Chris's [[September 2013 Facebook Posts|September 2013 Facebook posts]] about Lego minifigs.<br /> |-<br /> |39<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSpn0ZNwqQ Current]<br /> |2013-2014<br /> |[[October 2013 Facebook Posts|October 2013 Facebook posts]] to [[LoveYouLongTime E-mails, 2013-2014]].<br /> |-<br /> |40<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_A-_W37qk Current]<br /> |2014<br /> |[[May 2014 Facebook Posts|May 2014 Facebook posts]] to him finishing his first leg of his date with [[Catherine]].<br /> |-<br /> |41<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55EsycjHeJs Current]<br /> |2014<br /> |Second leg of his date with [[Catherine]] to Chris addressing his reasoning for the [[Medallions#The Mr. Smith Situation|Mr. Smith situation]]. <br /> |-<br /> |42<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=karTjT_4Gbc Current]<br /> |2014<br /> |Start of the [[Sonic Boom Protests]] to the end of the [[Keep Sonic Original]] page.<br /> |-<br /> |43<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyNfJQbg9o8 Current]<br /> |2014-2015<br /> |[[Sonic Boom Protests#Pickle Joke|Possible reference to Chris's distaste for]] [[pickle]]s in an episode of ''Sonic Boom'' to [[March 2015 Facebook posts#Redundancy|a comment made by him on the official ''My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic'' Facebook page]] in March 2015. This is the first episode to use feminine pronouns to describe Chris.<br /> |-<br /> |44<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MdSQG0B_c Current]<br /> |2015<br /> |[[26 December 2014#2 April Hearing|Chris's second hearing]] for the Boxing Day macing to his [[July 2015 Facebook Posts#Endless Horror|&quot;Pink Fresh Lemonade&quot; drawing]]. Debuts a new version of the intro, using feminine pronouns.<br /> |-<br /> |45<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-v3Iefr58U Current]<br /> |2015<br /> |[[List of places that have banned Chris#Facebook|Chris's temporary ban from Facebook]] to [[Sonichu and Rosechu figure collection toy battle!]]<br /> |-<br /> |46<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtELwaQYTK0 Current]<br /> |2015<br /> |[[Donation Options Reviewed.]] to [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]].<br /> |-<br /> |47<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07p94FYn1zM Current]<br /> |2015-2016<br /> |[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#A Fun Visual|Chris' 1 December 2015 Facebook post about his bed]] to [[Update, 1/22/2016, and new items for Cwcville Shopping.]]<br /> |-<br /> |48<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INP-_0MDS9U Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[CatKnight Interview]] to [[Jeff is Beyond Denounced.]]<br /> |-<br /> |49<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8h-ja6dftY Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[Happy Pokémon Day.]] to [[Please, Donate]].<br /> |-<br /> |50<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPDwMta3fRs Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] to [[Donations Requested, Please]].<br /> |-<br /> |51<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qc3QE-E9Yw Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |[[Reading &quot;Unicorns, Rainbows, and a Bluebird of Happiness&quot; Chapter 1]] to Chris's Facebook [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|post]] regarding [[Chris and sex#Incest|incest]].<br /> |-<br /> |52<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os51Bmrr0Kw Current]<br /> |2016<br /> |Chris's [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Get off your ass, Cole!|Facebook announcement]] to [[Cole Smithey]] to [[Feelings of the election results]].<br /> |-<br /> |53<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsr45VigJs Current]<br /> |2016-2017<br /> |[[I Tweet AND Post Simultaneously]] to Chris's first interactions with [[DoopieDoOver]].<br /> |-<br /> |54<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUHnLlqY6SI Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[2017 tweets#Don't be blinded impulsively|Chris offering words of wisdom]] to [[Live Game Stream - C-Log 05052017]].<br /> |-<br /> |55<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgaHw3y66w Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[Live Drawing Streams#05082017|Chris's first ''Sonichu'' Issue #11 livestream]] to [[July 2017 tweets#Doopie knows about Chris|Doopie confirming that she knew about Chris's old antics]].<br /> |-<br /> |56<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydR9nksHSg Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[July 2017 tweets#Chris downplays the macing incident while simping for the Planet Dolan crew|Chris interacting with the Planet Dolan crew]] to [[Night Star#Chris spills the beans|Chris revealing that he was behind the NightStar2891 account]].<br /> |-<br /> |57<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXZOVgot6a4 Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[August 2017 tweets#Chris's pizza observation|Chris's pizza observation]] to [[Jessica Quinn#Relationship with Kiwi Farms|Jessica Quinn's conversation with Moonman's Son]].<br /> |-<br /> |58<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f_aVxYQeHo Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[September 2017 Facebook posts#Jessica Quinn .3D Lovely Weather|Chris comparing Jessica Quinn to Lovely Weather]] to [[October 2017 tweets#Quinnspiracy|Chris rationalizing that Quinn wasn't a troll]].<br /> |-<br /> |59<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-1uVPwrs0 Current]<br /> |2017<br /> |[[Sonichu_12|Creation of Sonichu 12]] to [[Operation_BARBarossa|the Facebook post about Operation BARBarossa]].<br /> |-<br /> |60<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBN4_57TuMY Current]<br /> |2017-2018<br /> | [[November 2017 tweets#The only person with Heterochromia|Chris's tweet about a Heterochromia customization in Sonic Forces]] to [[February 2018 Facebook Posts#Christian Love Day|the Facebook post celebrating his 36th birthday]].<br /> |-<br /> |61<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40wYDbcfYEg Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | The growth of the amount of [[Idea Guys]] to [[April 2018 social media posts#Brainwashing from Idea Guys|a string of tweets Chris posted about his fetishes.]]<br /> |-<br /> |-<br /> |62<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHJ0x53ik34 Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[Twitch#CLog_04172018_-_Buy_My_Toys|Chris streaming on Twitch urging others to buy his eBay items]] to [[WE_NEED_MONEY_FOR_MORTGAGE_NOW,_PLEASE#Please.2C_HELP_US.21_FORECLOSURE_RISK_HIGH.21|a desperate plea video for monetary donations.]]<br /> |-<br /> |-<br /> |63<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVMhrr5xkMI Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[May 2018 social media posts#Chris gets a new phone, wants to sell old phone|A Twitter post of Chris attempting to sell his old phone on eBay]] to [[Nightstar_is_a_very_important_Special_Sonichu|a video in which he states the importance of his ponysona Night Star.]]<br /> |-<br /> |-<br /> |64<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa8HBIb1RMs Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[TooManyGames#At_the_con|Justin Silverman emailing Chris about his fundraising campaign to get to the convention]] to [[BronyCon_2018|Chris leaving BronyCon 2018.]]<br /> |-<br /> |65<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVF5KepFaxM Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[Waiting for the tow truck]] to [[Barbara Chandler will be making out autographed photos and posters.]]<br /> |-<br /> |66<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z9WHi2CMlg Current]<br /> |2018<br /> | [[August_2018_social_media_posts#So_where_is_the_Wikipedia_Article_about_me?|A tweet from Chris in which he asks for the whereabouts of his Wikipedia page]] to [[Misc_texts#Sorbet_deceased|a text message in which Chris states his lost cat Sorbet had died and merged with his counterpart in the sister dimension.]]<br /> |-<br /> |67<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXKgagZawBI Current]<br /> |2018-2019<br /> |Description.<br /> |-<br /> |68<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XneFqMrLLNw Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |Description.<br /> |-<br /> |69<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJdb6HBw78 Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |Description.<br /> |-<br /> |70<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw9OtvE0r6Q Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[Bryanfrogboy]]'s prequel video to [[Sarah and Steve]] defending their enabling on [[Twitter]].<br /> |-<br /> |71<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mRucAOtJZw&amp;ab_channel=GenoSamuel2.1 Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[Pappy Van Poodle Interview]] to _.<br /> |-<br /> |72<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHyuvFpEXak Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[Misc_texts#Thinking_of_selling_bath_water|Thinking of selling bath water]] to [[First recorded statement of Magi-Chan Sonichu - August 15, 2019]].<br /> |-<br /> |73<br /> |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvPvr-D9nZI Current]<br /> |2019<br /> |From [[August_2019_social_media_posts#Chris_and_Magi-Chan_are_luminaries|Chris and Magi-Chan are luminaries]] to [[October_2019_social_media_posts#Chris_orders_the_Shipfic_cards,_snaps_at_customers_wanting_books|Chris orders the Shipfic cards, snaps at customers wanting books]].<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Fan videos==<br /> {{Infobox/video<br /> |name= Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Without Context<br /> | stardate = 10 [[February 2021]]<br /> |video= {{#ev:youtube|dEbBW3SsP88}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Geno Samuel]]<br /> *[[Geno Samuel DMs]]<br /> <br /> {{References}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHwMkmOmNeJr-M8SR6lzuwIgfFZHnTau1 Playlist of old version]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm Playlist of current version]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-1XyJSh9umIGMBHqFIOq-MJxVPOLfG50 Playlist of a mixture of old and current]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_3pplzbKMZsP5zBH_6SVJQ/featured?disable_polymer=1 Geno's backup channel]<br /> *[https://www.youtube.com/user/GenoSamuel1994Part2 Geno's main channel]<br /> <br /> {{Documentaries}}<br /> {{People}}<br /> {{Articleofthenow}}<br /> [[Category:Pages with fan videos]]<br /> [[Category:Media that has been published in real life]]<br /> [[Category:Documentaries]]</div>

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