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== I want to warn other women ==

Hello, my name is Jackie. Jesus, I can't believe I'm doing this.

Long story short, I'm in the market for a boyfriend and I posted online, thinking I would give it a shot. I meet a guy named Christian Weston Chandler. Guess where this is going.

I didn't know anything about this guy before I met him there. I talked back and forth with him for a bit on email, got to know him a little. I didn't know he was such an internet freak. But he told me all about this cwcki site, because I wanted to know more about him and I wanted him to make a video for me. He initially refused to make a video for me because he said it "got him in trouble before". I didn't know what he meant, so he sent me here to see videos of him talking to previous girlfriends and how the nasty trolls got him in trouble for it. Mind you, he was very careful to remind me that this website is full of lies and shouldn't be trusted, despite the fact he himself sent me here.

But I respected the fact he was at least being honest with me about this online shit. Or so it seemed. I watched a bunch of his videos, got more and more disturbed by them. I questioned him on some things, like how he apparently cheated on one of his ex-girlfriends with some other girl online. As was quite insulting (but not at all surprising now that I've familiarized myself with this site), he lied to me and said it never happened. Even though he himself admitted to cheating on her in a video HE MADE.

And a bunch of other shit he lied about too. Like professing his love for me every five minutes, even though he COULDN'T REMEMBER MY FUCKING NAME. Check this video out: http://www.mediafire.com/?zzivjw32mlj
I asked him to make me a video showing me his female-pleasuring skills (this was before I started to realize what a disgusting piece of shit he is), and he CALLS ME BY HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND'S NAME.

So there you go, have at it. He calls this website full of liars, but as far as I can tell he's a worthless piece of shit and this site is pretty frank about it. I'm fucking done dealing with him but I thought I'd contribute my experience as a warning to all the other women in Virginia.--[[User:JaxRomy|JaxRomy]] 12:24am, 22 April 2010 (EST)

:* Hello Jackie, and welcome. I am sorry you had to encounter Christian without any prior warning- the truth must be shocking and a little frightening (you know he twice tried to convince the trolls to trick him into raping someone who was [[rocky|trying to help him and only looking out for his best interests]], right?). I'm sure I speak for everyone here when I say that you are most welcome here, and that your experience will be added to the massive (and growing) pile of documentation regarding this mental man and his life. Your goal of warning others is a noble one and I invite you to come, join in the documentation and study of Christian Weston Chandler. Again, you have my sympathies. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Glad to be of service! Also, if you feel like you want to, you can add a better profile for him to Dontdatehimgirl.com--there's been one up there since 4chan/SA found his comic in 2007 and it's woefully out of date. And sorry you had to put up with being in a relationship with Chris. You are also welcome to contribute any information you want.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Welcome, Jackie, and I apologize for the inconvenience you had in registering for a new account. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to leave a message on my [[User talk:Champthom|talk page]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:01, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Chris chan, "cute"? Lol. Anyway, welcome. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 05:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*At least Chris had the lack of sense to point you here and warn you of what you were in for if you met him. Every new bit of Chris we see is darker and more disturbing than the last. This site does little more than hold a mirror up to Chris and let his own words speak for themselves. Enjoy exploring the man-child-sized bullet you just dodged. Any and all contributions you wish to make would be most appreciated. As you can see, we "trolls" are mainly fascinated observers of the perversion of nature known as Christian Chandler. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 05:31, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Jackie, I am so sorry you had to go through this.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Welcome and we're sorry for what you had to experience with Chris. You were lucky he pointed you here so soon. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 06:01, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Welcome Jackie and thank you for sharing your experience with us. I must congratulate you on your fortitude. The video he sent you make me feel quite nauseous and it's not even aimed at me! Yes, Christian Chandler is quite the sick puppy we describe and yet your e-mails are filled with juicy details and interesting anecdotes. You have proven your value and you are most welcome here among us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:10, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Hey, there. I'm so sorry about what happened between you and Chris, but it was for the best, yes? Hope you have fun here. じゃね!--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 13:21, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== YOU ARE FAGGOTS ==

every single last one of you. seriously. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* We love you too, Clyde. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Indeed. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::* Have my babiez, plz?--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 03:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
*I want you inside me, Clyde. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
*Oh Clyde, you're too nice. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 03:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
*Cool.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:40, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
*Yes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 12:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Icon Templates ==

So I've added some code to the icon templates (and even added the normal icon template code to about a third of the shirt icons) so we can toggle the text labels for the icons. I mainly forsee this being useful for the video boxes on articles, rather than having to type '''<nowiki>{{BlueRedSleeveRugby}}</nowiki> Blue & Red Sleeve Rugby''', you can type '''<nowiki>{{BlueRedSleeveRugby|text=yes}}</nowiki>''' to generate the same effect. It also allows all uses of the icon template to be easily updated, should we decided to do something like rename a shirt.

I notice that there is a lot of inconsistency on pages with videos - some use icon templates, some don't - so do partly, probably due to new icon templates having later been made. So my plan is to revisit pages with videos and update them to use the templates. My dilemma is - should the format for showing the text be: '''<nowiki>{{Icontemplate|text=yes}}</nowiki>''' or '''<nowiki>{{Icontemplate|text}}</nowiki>''' or something else? --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 23:56, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

:Oh and examples of the icons with their respective text labels can be found [[User:Anonymax/Sandbox2|here]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 23:59, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:I reallllly need some feedback on this. Plz replai --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:17, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Hey mate, looks fantastic. In my position as a complete nobody I approve of this change. Going back and retroactively changing every video is gunna be interesting, however... -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:32, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:* It's a good job Anonymax. Well done- I was watching as you put them up last night, you've done a great job with them --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:38, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

:Well I had to make the change to the templates so the default behaviour was not to show the label - in an ideal world, the default would be to show the label. I'm currently a fan of the '''<nowiki>{{Icontemplate|text}}</nowiki>''' way of triggering the display of labels - and unless anyone comes up with a reason to set it a different way, I'll make some changes soon. Yes the task of going through every page with video templates is going to take some time - however, it will help make all of them consistent. We like consistency. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:Added some more code to my sandbox version of an icon template - now the template will accept custom text:
::*'''<nowiki>{{Icontemplate}}</nowiki>''' produces {{Comics}}
::*'''<nowiki>{{Icontemplate|text}}</nowiki>''' produces {{Comics|text}}
::*'''<nowiki>{{Icontemplate|Some Text}}</nowiki>''' produces {{Comics|Some Text}}
: A more flexible solution methinks --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:*That works well, good job --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:43, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I think I'm happy with the sandbox example for icon templates and their usage - but any suggestions for improvements before I start to apply it to all templates would be good --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

All icon templates have been updated now. The process of editing each video page to make use of the templates is slowly underway. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Sonichu update ==

I noticed today that some troll has "updated" Sonichu 11 with some new pages. Does anybody know who is this troll?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 00:06, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Protip: When stuff appears on CWCipedia, we put it there. Clyde in all likelyhood. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Then the troll failed in completely capturing Chris's fail. The comic is actually well done and funny. But in all seriousness, i'm starting to thinkg that its alec after seeing th sonichu 11 page here.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 00:14, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

nah, the style is different, take for example the sonichu revolution pages, they are more blunt and the chris chan character ends up being the lazy jerk he usually is, while his characters are more kind and/or dumber than usual. This one has chris chan acting with reason, and focuses more onto the sonichus, and how they should really react on theyr miserable lives, on the other hand, this does go with someof the plans i've read around the CWCipedia.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 00:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

It was originally done by a PVCC poster, and appeared there first. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:34, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's hilarious. I'm thinking I'll add this to the CWC blog page, with a note saying that Wikisysop's account was "hacked" and not TRUE AND HONEST. Gotta keep up appearances, you know.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::Its funny until the end, when its just pretty depresing, but as realistic as it could be.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 00:54, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== An attempt to rebuild old bridges ==

Hello friends. Embarrassed as I was by Chris's DEPLORABLE behavior concerning his latest female victim, I decided to write a letter to express my sheerest disapproval with his habitual dishonesty. Inspired by that young woman's disclosure of her correspondences, here is the letter I posted:

{{quoteboxred|From: Alec-Chan Asperchu <albasperchu@live.com>
To: Mayor Ian Brandon Anderson <chrischansonichu@aol.com>

Hey, Chris, it's Alec. How you doing?

Some of my fans linked me to that new girl Jackie on the cwcki, all those emails between you two. Too bad she broke the confidence you two had, I didn't think that was necessary. But I like best the part where she thinks I was you and asks you about my comics, and you respond by saying I was some guy who made a "fan-fiction" of Sonichu and have been trying to "1-up" you this whole time. Wow, Chris, way to go back on your fucking word once again. Remember when you told me you understood Asperchu was original and that it had nothing to do with Sonichu? Guess that was a lie. I'd say I am disappointed but since you've lied to me dozens of times already, this is pretty predictable. By the way, I can't really "1-up" a comic that stopped being produced for months at a time, anyway.

On a more positive note, however, I'm happy you ARE finally working on your comic again. Between all my responsibilities and my own comic, it was getting pretty stressful to try to pick up your comic for you, too. I especially like that you decided to kill Sandy (this page: http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_11/Page_27 is my favorite one). Even though you lied to Jackie repeatedly (that's why she dumped you, by the way), it's nice to see that you're now owning up to the fact that Sandy isn't your character any more than Simonla was.

Hope Patty is eating your soul,

Alec

P.S. Hey, you like God of War, don't you? Does your recent video mean you want Kratos to wear a bra? Most men don't have boobs like you do, you know.}}

I kept things positive and very cordial, as you can see; I wished to make peace. Here was Chris's reply:

{{quotebox|From: Mayor Ian Brandon Anderson <chrischansonichu@aol.com>
To: Alec-Chan Asperchu <albasperchu@live.com>

Shut up.}}

Following this he blocked my email (again). I wish I could say I was disheartened, but as we know this isn't the first time my olive branch has been slapped away... --[[User:ALBASPERCHU|ALBASPERCHU]] 21:52, 24 April 2010 (CST)

:Alec, every time you post it's like a tiny gift from the heavens.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:04, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::Seconded.--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 22:18, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Alec, I want you. Bad. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
: Alec, if you are ever in new york you are welcome here

== Internal Server Error 500 ==

Over the past 15min, I've noticed this error occurring more frequently. Also the site seems to be running slower today. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC) - observing
:Now getting worse again --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:45, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Not noticed it in any seriousness for a while --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== The most retarded thing ever ==

http://cwctwitter.wikia.com/wiki/CWCville_Twitter_Wiki

and legi0n complained about ed. jesus christ. they even stole the box template that i stole from halcy :( --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 12:17, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
*A wiki for Sonichu Joke Twitters. Oh internet, you never cease to amaze.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:46, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== CWCpedia down ==

am i the only one getting an error when trying to enter cwcpedia? has chris taken the page down?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 11:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:Chris can't take it down. It's just 110MB being stupid again.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== A Question... ==

Has anyone here thought of trying to send Christian a copy of "Undateable"? I think the book might break his brain... I mean, one of thing things listed in that book that makes a guy Undateable is "he plays videogames"... you all see where I'm going with this? -Keeperofthekorteenee
:This might be an idea. If you got some spare money, please send him a copy. By the way, to sign your post, you need to type the symbol "~" four times. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 01:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:*This is interesting. Let me give it some thought, although to be honest Chris doesn't want to make himself more datable, he wants the ''standards of the entire eligable female population of the world to change to accomodate him''. That's why, no matter how many times people say ''Girls are the metal, boys are the magnets'' he will scream denials and complain that it ''should be'' or, alternatively, ''sometimes is'' the other way around. Chris not only does not want to improve himself, he ''actively resists'' such attempts because he is perfect and you can't improve on perfection. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Remember when Vivian sent a book to Chris? Any book you send Chris, that isn't positive stupid advice like "How To Talk To Girls" won't make any sort of effect on him.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 
I think the Jackie emails have shown us exactly how little Chris is prepared to go through for china, I seriously doubt that he'll make as immense an improvement as giving up his precious vidya for it. Besides, he outright ''refused'' to sell any of his videogames or game systems during the Miyamoto saga, and let's keep in mind that the manchild has like 500 games and 10 game systems
No, I'm afraid Chris will forever be a virgin with rage, unless maybe he gets the chance of a free hooker again (he did accept a fatty/redhead as a potential sweetheart). [[User:Banzai881|Banzai881]] 21:22, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:Chris is able to call the entire practice of Psychology stupid simply because it doesn't match up with his opinions on aspergers. The manchild can Mental Block shit like you wouldn't believe.
:If someone sent him the book, he would just toss it in the giant pile of crap in his room and forget about it. On the slim chance that he actually did read it he would either mental block it (Well that's just your OPINION/That's debatable) or miss the point completely (Wow! Good thing none of these apply to me, because I'm perfect). If we go for the best possible outcome here and assume he both reads it, and misses the point completely, we might get some moderate lulz if he chooses to make a video and lecture us all on how much he knows about dating, but the chances of that happening are near-zero.
:Still, if you wanna buy Chris free stuff, be my guest.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
To all of you... good point. I'm a bit new to mocking this idiot manchild; I'll catch up eventually... [[User:Keeperofthekorteenee|Keeperofthekorteenee]] 22:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 
:Welcome, friend, and enjoy the ride. I reccomend [[Chris and art]] and [[Chris and English]], two of my favs :D [[User:Banzai881|Banzai881]] 22:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hello All ==

New user here, been browsing this excellent site for a few days now, after first hearing about Chris last year. Look forward to becoming a contributing member of CWCki, and thought I'd post here to 1. Offer my aid/support/whatever in regards to future trolling efforts (You guys have done some really excellent work, if I may say so), and 2. Let it be known that the PVCC forum is apparently having trouble in regards to getting new-user registration past the "fill in your data and submit for registration" phase (I realize that it's a private forum, and that may well be by design, but I thought I'd speak up on the off chance that it's not intentional). Anyway, I suppose that's all I have to say at the moment, so... Yeah. Hello. [[User:RobGoblin|RobGoblin]] 17:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:y hello thar--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 20:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hiii <(^_^)> [[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 01:08, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::The PVCC registrations are being submitted, but the handling of the confirmation page is broken. It's a known issue - unlikely to be fixed soon though. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello Rob. And Hello CWCKi. I am another new user, and I would also like to offer my assistance as a writer/contributor as well as in any future trolling efforts. I first heard about CWC from monkeyoaaron's (sp?) Ear Rape Coffee video on the youtube. So I did a little research and found CWC's TRUE and HONEST videos of fail. I found out about the CWCki when Hells1ng920 posted his epic rant on youtube, he had a link to this website so I clicked it and it led me here, and now I'm a member, so I will talk to you all later! [[User:U2rockfan|U2rockfan]] 11:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC) (Patriot720 on Youtube)

Hello, everyone. I am new here, although I've lurked for quite a bit, and I would like to commend you for all your dedication towards chronicling the manchild's life. I've been missing out on the action for way too long, and I'm eager and willing to help this wiki grow and expand. I dutifully offer my services as a contributor and participant of any trolling attempts. Anyways, hello! :D-[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 02:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Performance styles ==

I have been browsing aorund the videos for a while and noticed that maybe we could add "Racist" to the performance styles as they have been relatively frequent. (the jugaloo, bunny hop video, the surfshack tito saga videos and possibly some others i may have missed).[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 01:12, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== 500 Internal Server Error ==
Is it any better now? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:08, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chris is dead, now what ==

So lets say that our hero decides to become an hero what becomes of the wiki ? --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:i never realized that. but i doubt that chris would become an hero. i think it would be by diabetes or a heart attack. but either way i fear the day, as it would mean that the cwcki would go down.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 12:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:*The CWCki will remain as a warning to future generations. The mistakes of CWC must never be repeated. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 13:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

That is actually something I have wondered for a while. What if Chris died? Hhhmmm...Well, for one thing, Da Update would certainly slow down. CWCipedia would either shut down, be turned into a monument to Chris or be opened to trolls again. And then CWCki would become a site for literal Christorians, and everyone would just be devoted to researching Chris's life. Then one day, Cogs sells the information to a movie studio, and we get Christian Weston Chandler: The Movie. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 13:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Visual consistency of comic Chris ==

Anyone notice how Chris has drawn himself looking like 50 different people across all these issues?
Anyway, I'm thinking of either adding an article about this or incorporating it into the comic chris page as a special section, any thoughts?
[[User:Banzai881|Banzai881]] 18:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
*At one point, I wanted to collaborate every depiction of Chris into one image, but given he draws himself differently so many times, it is a Herculean task. If you feel like it, go for it. I'd say that this could easily be incorporated into the character page for Chris's comic book self. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

==Gamefaqs==
[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/user.php?board=960619&topic=54555151&user=5492961 Profile]

[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960619-modnation-racers/54555151 Modnation]

[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/975212-super-street-fighter-iv/54555218 Street Fighter]

The writing style's pretty close. If it's a troll, he's either too subtle for his own good, or has no real goal other than "Pretend to be Chris".--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
*Get Clyde to confirm or deny it and we'll go from there. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Sir yes sir.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
*That thing reeks of Chris. I would bet money that it's him. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
*Believe it or not, I think Chris can spell separate. And also,it doesn't seem like him to try to help people. * "I will personally Not Judge one or ''Separate'' any individual People as such"
From the CWC Blog
[[User:Banzai881|Banzai881]] 17:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
* Chris's writing style is highly inconsistent. Also, he's not "helping" them, it's more like he's trying to "rally the masses" so he can port his save data from one game to another. Or something like that.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
* "Rally the masses", I like that, it seems just like something he would do. But still, I have my doubts, some elaborate trolling might be set up here. In any case, I don't think we should concern ourselves with this until it's confirmed it's Chris or Chris responds to it being false. [[User:Banzai881|Banzai881]] 18:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
*Well, he could be a troll, but Occams's razor leads me to say he's the real deal. Here's another thread Chris posted in: [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960619-modnation-racers/54377904?page=4]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Memo on uploading images ==

If you upload images you found on other sites, try to source the HONEST and ORIGINAL creator when possible, or at least where you found it. It's good wiki policy in general. Likewise, try to use Creative Commons stuff whenever possible. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Sydney Kirsch ==

In the wake of the [[Jackie]] emails, on or about the 22nd of April a brave <s>troll</s> woman named Sydney Kirsch mistook Chris for "[[Liquid|another Chris]]" at [[The Game Place]], with whom she had intended to do some Poke'mon related business. Since she had forgotten this handsome, devilishly charming man's e-mail address, she simply googled Chris and The Game Place then e-mailed the first place that came up. The following is all record of what took place...

Sydney had the noble end-goal of wanting to get Chris to resume answering the mailbags, by trading naked pictures of herself for answered questions. Unfortunately... things did not turn out that way at all.

Some subject matter (mostly audio clips and voice mail messages) have not been posted because they are mostly irrelevant, don't add to the story and/or don't contain input from Chris. Note that the date/time stamps on e-mails are for Virginia time, while the date/time stamps on audio clips are [[PandaHalo|Adelaide, Australia time]]. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]]

*Dude, don't forget to sign your posts! Anyways, I moved all the stuff about Sydney [[User:Ronichu/Sydney|here]] because I didn't expect you to make an entire damn page on the community portal about her. I can confirm that Chris was in contact with Sydney so yeah, we could make a regular page for her. For the time being, there's that user page. Not sure what to call a page for her though - most pages that are about the person are about the person them self and not so much the actual conversations they had with Chris (see [[Vanessa Hudgens]] versus [[Vanessa Saga]]). Yet this isn't a proper saga, given the nature of it. We can't just call it e-mails because there's also those two call. So mostly we need a name for this page and we can post stuff there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:* I agree that it's definitely not a saga. If you look at the saga timeline someone drew up, the sagas are getting remarkably shorter and shorter. I honestly think to be a saga it has to provoke significant public response from Chris over at least a few months. I don't know what to call it; maybe 'Sydney Contacts'? To be honest, as I said before Champ, I don't know if there's really much here at all. Chris is getting more desperate, he is still looking online but hoping to move it offline ASAP, Chris can't remember people's names... Probably the only significant information in this whole thing is that if you try to call Chris and be a faggot, it will not work so don't try. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 00:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

* Jesus, even Chris was bored by those emails. What would be the point of yet another e-girlfriend, anyway? Just stop it already. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 21:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:*The point was to get him to restart the mailbags and nothing more. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== the manchild reverts the changes. ==

It seems that CWC has reverted most of the changes done by his "fan". Apparently, character development is the cancer that will kill sonichu. I saved the changes that were deleted by america's most hated autist. Also apparently, Bubbles is jewish.
{{quoteboxred|The reason he wanted to work with Mary Lee Walsh is because he wanted to align himself with anyone who would do his bidding; however, eventually she wanted to backstab him and then destroyed him.Count Graduon is currently dead, but soon he will return as the evil God Graduon and attack Vamprosa. Sonichu had not evolved into Metonic at that point and soon God Graduon will take over his body.}}

{{quoteboxred|:Zapina had a sad, lonely life. Her parents were killed by the evil Evan. She used to live in a 2 story house with her mom and dad. One day, Evan was really angry about the popular mayor so he took a gun and shot them dead. Then he lit their house on fire and Zapina had to run away.
Eventually Zapina found comfort in the home of Simonla Rosechu. Evan did not like this and had Simonla killed.
It turns out, before Zapina was born, her mom and dad owned a factory where they produced Pokeballs. Evan was a lazy worker at the factory and wanted revenge because they fired him.
Soon Zapina would form a relationship with Ganster Sonichu; however, Gangster Sonichu broke up with Zapina because he was dating her to cover up his homosexuality. Zapina would soon be great friends with Sandy Rosechu to help get over her break up.}}

{{quoteboxred|Cera Rosechu is a very pretty Rosechu who will grow up to become a strong-willed Rosechu. Her mom does not have a lot of time to take care of her because she is too busy saving the day, so her babysitter Heather, takes cares of her.
Her babysitter is a lesbian, however Cera does not grow up to be a lesbian. She is straight like her brother and other sister. Her future husband will be Blake and Bubbles's child who is called Kyle Sonichu.
Kyle and Cera are currently in kindergarten being taught by their teacher Mrs. Lyra. Mrs. Lyra is frustrated because Kyle and Cera keep talking in class. Cera is not very good with her mathematics and she often asks Kyle for help.}}
[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 21:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:Why are you writing this here and not in the CWCipedia tracker? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:*<s>didn't know how. i'm going to right now.</s> someone already did it[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:05, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:If Chris reverted the changes without comment, then we need to have the girls make more changes. That ought to infuriate him. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:42, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::He still hasn't reverted the changes made to the captain's log on the main page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 23:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, and I think I know why. This is pure speculation, but I think Chris just checks the recent changes page to get told what's going on. Daria Camacho made a bunch of changes with her account set to bot, and the default setting on that page is to hide bot edits. Chris hasn't reverted them because he has no idea they happened at all.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:38, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Actually, chris did not revert all the edits. the vamprosa page daria set up is unchanged and he didn't delete completely the graduon page. what i copied was just what he deleted.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 13:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Well then I think it's clear that the correct course of action is mass bot vandalism. He'll have no idea what hit him. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes! Do this! --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Broken audio links ==

Someone, do me a favor and post here pages that need working links to audio downloads and stuff like that. I believe one of the concern with transcribing some of the Mumble chats is that we have no working audio links so we need to fix that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Boss, the ones I could find are:

Mumble 12

CWCCumsforaCat

JackThaddius Call 2

JackThaddius Call 3

Julie Reveals Herself

DPF Phonecall

There may be more. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:54, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== CHRIS IS STUPID ==
http://pastebin.com/1YndZLqf [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
*Wait was this chris telling Anonymous to piss off or somebody talking to chris? if it was the former, yeah he's fucked.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 01:18, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:*god damn can you even read the first fucking line of the fucking thing? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
*This sounds like Rocky.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:20, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:*this is too fucking retarded to be from anyone else. chris is just trying to justify his fucking atrocious reputation of being a retard. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:**But since when has he been trolled by Anonymous? When did chris send this email out?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 02:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::*he's probably referring to the old meaning of anonymous. you know, before 4chan. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::*He might not even make the distinction between his current trolls and the anons. Anyway this is a pretty neat document. Any idea where we should put it? Do we have any extra context?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::* The e-mail is now the featured quote in the cwcpedia. Well at least the last lines.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:05, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
original e-mail:
{{quotebox|<nowiki>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5a7HN0pa0w&feature=related</nowiki>

This was part of a radio show from a few months ago. It resurfaced recently and I had a listen.

If you wonder why this applies to you: skip to 7:00.

A woman comments about how YOU will be part of her nightmares now.

This is what normal people, not trolls, think of you. If you really think it's just trolls who have formed a bad opinion of you, think again. Just letting you know.}} [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 21:22, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how anyone could have a good or even neutral opinion of Chris after hearing/reading about him. --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 22:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
*maybe its because chris is the epitome of self delution.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:43, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why he thinks he's a good person in real life? Is he just wanting real companionship, or does he actually think that he's better in real life? If the former, he's still prime troll bait, but if it's the latter, we better pray he doesn't find a more forgiving Young Adult Social Group orwhateverthefuckitis. If he gets people in real life, and he realises he's screwed up on the internet, he won't be coming back. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:32, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:If you remember from the Greene County conspiracy video, he said that he called up Rocky to see if anyone would come to the extreme sports show with him, and no one ever called back. It's obvious what's happening here. People are avoiding Chris out of disgust, because he is bad and he smells bad. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 23:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::* If there is one thing I am glad for in this life it's that you cannot smell someone over the Internet. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::*Wait, I can see what's going on. First, remember that Chris thinks everyone is simply afraid of him--in fact, they're repulsed by his appearance/odor/behavior. He's found out about that murder case, and seems to think that it's one of those things that can happen in relationships. This is simply an extension of the "THEY ARE AFRAID OF AUTISTICS" line of thought--he thinks people look at him and think "OH NO A BAD GUY". Or perhaps someone just told him what a horrible person he was. His definition of "horrible person" is "guy who makes me stop using Simonla" or "guy who kills ex girlfriend", not "Overweight, odorous, naive, lying manchild"--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::*Makes sense to me. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::*I rather see it as a "Pity Plea". A creepy "I could had loved her" scenario. As far as the YASG goes, I guess Wallflower talked about her ordeal and even good-thinking Christians made the choice of keeping him away. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::::*Which raises the question, where will he go next? Charlottesville is a pretty small place, judging by the Google Maps screenshots. My own town is about the same size, and everyone knows all the crazy people around. I'd imagine Chris has a very similar reputation, probably due to a mix of his IRL activitites and troll activity. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Well, Chris is obviously the village idiot, but the question is if he even realizes that himself. For all we know, he considers himself the grand master of Charlottesville and thinks everyone is honored to live in the same area. It sounds stupid and unlikely, but this is Chris we're talking about. Unless he's claimed otherwise, I don't think he'd even be aware of having a reputation like that. --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 21:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::*I like to think that all the kids in Charlottesville believe that the Chandler Household haunted by fat, man-eating monsters. I can just imagine some girls having a sleepover nearby and one of them getting dared to go in it. Hilarity Ensues. And by Hilarity Ensues, I mean Raep Happens. :)[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 02:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::*what's sad is that it would not be very far from reality. though we could count on bob to protect them...for now.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 02:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Well, only if he hasn't died yet. D:[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 03:28, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== joinage ==

So I sent Chris a link to a Pokemon forum asking him to join. I also told him that it'd be awesome if someone as 'recognized' as him would join and such crap. Now, what are the chances that he'll actually join? I mean, we could do some pretty nice trolling should he actually join. :D So... yeah. That's all. <s>please don't kill me</s>[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 04:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== An eyewitness emerges ==

[http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/41019.html Gamer Paulo tells us about Chris at the Game Place.] --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*We (at least certain people) are working on establishing the validity of this account (i.e. asking Mimms and Lucas to comment on PVCC). Once we get confirmation, we can add it here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:15, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*I'm going to call troll--you'd think Chris would boast about the time Mimms supposedly begged him for forgiveness. That would have been a massive boost to his ego and you just know he would have mentioned it somewhere. But other than that I wish the rest was true, espicially the part where Snorlax sat down on the floor and rambled about Greene County.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*It does seem sort of suspect - The guy claiming to verify him as the Gym Leader at TGP reeks of samefag, at least imho. [[User:RobGoblin|Gobs]] 05:56, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*Sounds like a troll to me. Besides, he's aware of this wiki's existence, so why didn't he post it here in the first place? And he seems to be avoiding giving direct answer/saying something we don't know. Also, WTF with Megan being a manipulative bitch?[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 06:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE BACKGROUND [[User:RobGoblin|RobGoblin]] 06:25, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*Totally not a troll. I was hoping to get my feet wet in this because Mike really wanted to get in on this but can't commit to it. Mimms will confirm, but he's not going to say nice things about me and likewise. --Gamer Paulo 06:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*Troll or not, his take on Megan is one that I'm sure myself and a lot of others have suspected is closer to the truth for a long time. This isn't some teen movie where the shy, friendly girl is spit on by the blonde cheerleader clique for no reason. In the real world, if you don't have friends there is probably a good reason for it, and we know that Megan really didn't have any. She's also a Nazi fetishist in her twenties that still plays Pokemon, traces Sonic recolors and Sailor Moons, and uses a retard for material gain, these are all known facts. I find it hard to buy that she was just some innocent demure flower ruined by Chris's actions (which is not to say Chris would not have been perfectly capable of doing so if it was in fact the case) [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 06:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Megan Schroeder

2010-05-19T06:01:18Z

Hurrrr2: /* Prologue */

{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}

[[Image:Megan Schroeder.jpg|250px|right|thumb|Megan Schroeder]]

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) was a friend, and maybe even what could be considered a true friend, of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, who appeared in the scene in [[2005]] and cut off contact with Chris around [[2008]].

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan Emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan Emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian, [[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]}}
{{clear}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]]; asexual even, with a few eccentricities that Chris was more than happy to copy and fulfill, namely her fondness for [[My Little Pony]], [[Sailor Moon]], and using Chris like a debit card because she was too lazy to go on [[eBay]] herself.

Megan and Chris first met during the summer of [[2005]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]] over a game of Yu-Gi-Oh!. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they're both [[Wikipedia:NEET|NEET]]s, idling their twenties away playing games marketed to [[card games|pre-teens]]. It only took [[Third date|a few games of cards]] and a handful of emails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. This was probably perpetuated by the fact that Megan used him as means to buy stuff off of eBay.

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Megan_wants_a_Tin_Tin_episode|Megan Emails]]}}

Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris would hang all over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, and kiss her, and other creepy actions. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who wanted nothing more than her personal space away from our hero. Even more so, she only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris would continue hounding Megan. When Megan attempted to get rid of Chris, saying that she had a boyfriend, it didn't deter Chris from his ultimate goal of [[china]].

And that was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan is a bit of an amateur cartoonist herself, and that caught Chris's fancy early in the game.

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Chris_wants_to_date_Megan_at_McDonald.27s|Megan Emails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the now consistent diary-keeping that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') quickly made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in ''[[Sonichu 5]]'' along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own [[homo|lesbian]] furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (Chris knew Megagi?) and thwart the evil Jerkops trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[animu]] style with ''Sonichu 5'', most notably in his character's eyes.

[[Image:Schu6p50a.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their email conversations; Chris critiques some of her story ideas, and runs plotline for ''[[Sonichu 6]]'' by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu 5'' managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character snuggling up with Chris AND offering fan service to the audience. Chris failed at understanding her anger, but did [[retcon]] a couple pages to tone them down.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan Emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

In June [[2007]], Megan went to Kentucky, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he STILL believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering about the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]] and the prizes that laid within, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and the trip and use that to win her [[china|heart]]. tl;dr, Chris lost, [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, Megan didn't give a shit. Even when Chris began whining about how everyone "cheated", especially Adam, but he "didn't", she didn't care. It soon got to the point where Megan would finally blow up at Chris for his childish and selfish acts. Despite being hurt, Chris continued to harass Megan.

===Rule 34 and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan Emails, 2008}}
[[Image:ShecameforCWC_(200803).JPG|right|thumb|...aaand we've crossed it.]]
In November, Chris would discover his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and begin his one-man war [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Rule 34]] artworks, one of which was a [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|picture of him fingering a girl]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], but Chris would eventually reveal that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on the 18th March, 2008]]</ref><ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He would later admit he did it in part to suppress the occasional impulse to rape her, and that trying to assert that what she was going through just BEING in the picture and learning what he could have done was NOTHING compared to the misery of the trolling he was enduring. In the end, Megan finally broke off all contact with Chris, broken by her experiences and traumatized by his actions.<ref>[[Chris-chan#Megan Saga]]</ref><ref>[[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008]]</ref>

==Epilogue==

{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, ''I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC''}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian, ''I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC''}}

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the ''[[CWC "Boyfriend"]]'' video, and then in the subsequent update, ''[[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]''.

Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]] entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, ''[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]''}}

==Chris's Version of Events==

On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on the Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.
{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]]. The pose in this and the following few drawings is quite obviously traced from the same source.
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg
Image:321-IceCune.jpg
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan_ace_of_clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs"; Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|<ref>http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php#a</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg
</gallery>

===Art of Megan===
<gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball Z|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. [[Fail|:)]]
Image:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|THAT IS NOT CRYSTAL
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg
</gallery>

===Miscellaneous===
<gallery>
Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
</gallery>

==References==
<references />

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{{MeganSaga}}
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[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

100 2178

2010-05-14T03:22:22Z

Hurrrr2:

{{Rename}}

'''100 2178.MOV''' is a 8 [[May 2010]] video in which [[Chris]], lonely and lost at the bottom of a depression-well, reflects on the [[FAIL|state]] of his life.

He made this video after coming home alone from an EXTREME ACTION SPORTS show to which he had won four tickets from a radio call-in contest. He could not find anyone else to go with him, even after he called the members of his Church's Young Adult Social Group, so he was forced to scalp the tickets in front of the stadium and then sit alone in the bleachers beside a "lovey-dovey couple" (who probably haven't even got a [[I_Pimp_My_Ride.MOV|pimped out PS3 controller]]) while handsomer, happier, less [[autistic]] men did flips on motorcycles for the roaring crowd. This situation causes Chris to reflect introspectively on his life, or at the very least complain about the latest faults that have occurred since he and [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]] broke apart.

Chris inexplicably blames the Greene County school board (which tried to pull him out of [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]] when he was a child) for heading a conspiracy to keep him in his "autistic shell" — first by supposedly trying to institutionalize him for being autistic then, after many years with no interaction with him, going so far as to pay a realtor more than $18,000 <ref>A rough estimate of a realtor's fee assuming a home value of $300,000 and a commission rate of 6%. [http://www.trulia.com/property/1082709830-68-Branchland-Ct-Ruckersville-VA-22968| The average home price in the area today is about $319,000] and [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/11/60minutes/main2790865.shtml| a realtor's commission would be 6% of that].</ref> to keep his [[14 Branchland Court|family's house]] in Ruckersville from selling so that his family would have to move back to a town where he had fewer friends after high school. The facts that about 19 other students in the district were also autistic, <ref>Assuming autism is distributed uniformly, that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US-autism-6-17-1996-2007.png| roughly 1%] of the population was autistic, and that there were 2,000 students in the Green County school district at the time. [http://www.localschooldirectory.com/district-schools/039/Greene-County-Public-Schools-District/VA| There are about 2,850 today.]</ref> and weren't paid special attention to by the school board, that every member of the that board works a full-time job and many also have children, that none of them would have the motivation to [[Troll|hound]] Chris for a decade; and that all his supposed friends from Chesterfield County have long since moved on with their lives, are now similarly indisposed, and would have nothing to gain by spending time with him even if they all lived right next door naturally do not occur to Chris.

Using the board as a not-so-convenient excuse to ignore the fact that he himself is the only consistent factor in his unbroken series of failures, he goes on to muse that they bribed [[Michael Snyder]] (years later again) to ban him from [[The GAMe PLACe]]. (There is no "evidence" yet linking them to [[Mary Lee Walsh]], the [[Jerkops]], or the 15,000 some-odd people of Greene County who somehow spontaneously decided not to be Chris's friends for no reason.) Chris seems to restrain himself from calling Snyder a "greedy Jew" [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|a la Cartman]], stopping after "greedy". He ends the video by wishing that they, Michael Snyder, and the [[trolls]] would all go to hell for playing [[Kick the Autistic]].

Perhaps coincidentally, the video was uploaded sixteen years to the day since [[Bob]]'s case against Greene County was thrown out of court.

==Video==

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| name = 100_2178.MOV
| image = {{#ev:youtube|VwCldRr0kDc}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 08 May 2010
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter =
| Performance Style = {{Tragedy|text}}, {{Crazy|text}}
| Shirt = {{OrangeSleeveless|text}}
| previous = [[I Pimp My Ride.MOV]]
| next = Current
}}

==Transcription==

[''Chris sits in the dark in front of his TV, which is turned off. He is visible only in silhouette. A fan hums in the background.'']

This is [[Christian Weston Chandler]], alias ''[[Christopher]]'' Weston Chandler, pre [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|1990-something]]. Anyway, I-I have sent this message to all the peo- ...ple that were of the [[Greene County]] School Board... and such... during the [[1990s]]... because... Threatening to put me in a mental institution. That was pretty much why we had to run away... and move to Chesterfield County, and I had better life over there, I had a lo- I had so many friends over there, in high school. And I was just ''sad'' to leave, when I, after I graduated. 'Cause I had to leave all my friends. I had the good life. But we were forced to move back here.

You people of Greene County, you could not have left us, uh, left me and my family alone. You had to go and pay off the realtors, just so, this h- so that this house here could not have been sold. If it, 'cause if it had been sold, we would have been able to stay in Chesterfield County. [''[[sigh]]''] And I would have been ha- I would have had a lot- a happier life over there, than right now and how I'm feeling. If, right now, because we ha- 'cause we were forced to move back here because of you goddamn... people who were afraid of [[autistic]] individuals.

[''[[sigh]]'']

You individuals would know who you are. I wish my family and I did not have to move back here. I wish we could have stayed in Chesterfield County, 'cause I had the better life there. And we were doing we- we were doing well, but you had to drag us down! You had to make us unable to sell our house here. You had to ''force'' my family to move back here, where I was OK and I have a couple of friends, and I'm better off with... [''Voice cracks, shakes arm to gesture at room.''] '''stuff.'''

That stuff is no good if I don't have, if I don't have many friends to share it with. [''Chokes back tears.'']

And it all just went downhill. I bet, even Greene County had something to do with influencing that goddamn [[Michael Snyder]] to see f- to see any... so recourse... or... anything like that to make him pretend to have a reason to [[kick]] me out, quote-unquote "''scaaaaring'' his customers away!" [''Flips off the camera'']You goddamn, greedy... ''Snyder''!

[[Image:Yasg.jpg|thumb|left|The Young Adult Social Group offers Chris a solution.]]

I was at the John Paul Jones Arena earlier tonight, at the Extreme Action Sports. I had won four tickets the previous Friday, Friday of the last week, from 95.1. The few [[Trolls|friends]] I have here could not have come- could not come with me, and I could not even find anyone in the congregation to take- to go with me. 'Cause I misplaced directory for one reason. And even with the help of, uh, my pastoral counselor to get in contact with them, they did not call- none of them called me back!

And I had to sell the... tickets I had, and I had to sit there next to a... lovey-dovey couple. [''His voice begins to crack.''] Which, that was OK, you know, I was trying to be... good- I was trying to be good friend, you know... [''scratches back of head''] Sociable. [''sigh''] But still, if that was... If I had stayed in Chesterfield County, and I would- and I had a similar situation for an event there... I would definitely have had my friends I had there. Moving back here, it just dragged me downhill. So I tell you what, Greene County... Because you saw fit to make- to make me and my family have to move back here, just to make me sad, and move more into my Autistic Shell: ''you did it''.

If I had stayed in Chesterfield County, I would have been a whole lot better off. I wish you would, I wish you would have let us sell our house here. We could have stayed there. I wish you had- I wish we did not have to move back to [''sigh''] I wish we did not have to move back here nearly ten years ago.

[[Image:Wild.png|thumb|Sit and spin.]]

Laugh all you want, trolls! Because... I don't ''give'' a damn. You're all just immature, [[naive]], [[Chris and his Ego|condescending]], [[Patti|soulless]] [[sonichu|''monsters.'']] [[Chris and hypocrisy|You don't ''care'' about others, you only care about yourselves. You only care about getting your own laughs and kicks, because you don't h- you don't have your own social life!]] You [[Death threats|threaten]] me from ha- from trying to seek one of my own, by scaring me on the Internet and whatnot.

Including Clyde Cash, you can all go to hell. And all da people that were on the Greene County School Board during the 1990s then that forced us to have to move back here, '''sit and spin...''' Hell.

And Michael Snyder, I hope you go to Hell, too!

And for everybody el-, as for everybody else... Peace.
{{-}}
===Michael Snyder Replies===
{{quotebox|When I go to hell, I will hold the door open for you, if not not too busy giving tours. I can't believe I've spent all these years conspiring to make your life more miserable than your fossilized parents could ever dream of. Oh, wait, I wasn't doing that, I've been too busy living my own life. I remember you as a child creeping out all the other pokemon kids, including my own, because even 10 years ago you were an angry, unsportsmanlike punk.
Signed,
That goddam Michael Snyder}}

==Fan videos==

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| video = {{#ev:youtube|ZMc4wFuH1WQ}}
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/clydespickle clydespickle]
| Stardate = 11 May 2010
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[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

==References==
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Talk:Greene County Conspiracy

2010-05-09T06:33:06Z

Hurrrr2:

Starting transcription [[User:Urist|Urist]] 04:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

A video was released earlier by solidsnakeproductions giving a gay craigslist user looking for good times directions to Chris' house...could this be why he made this video? [[User:LouisLash|LouisLash]] 2:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Doubtful. By the sounds of it, Chris won tickets for some sporting event, no one wanted to go with his smelly ass and when he did go, he was reminded he was a [[Virgin with rage]] by the lovey-dovey couple beside him. Thus, he decided to go after others, blaming ''two fucking counties'' for playing Kick the Autistic!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Name Change==
I know, it just got put up, but this page needs a better name. I vote for either "Chris Whines The Blues" or "The Greene County Conspiracy"--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Moving it here, so it can be seen.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*I like "The Greene County Conspiracy". -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

What's the "100 2178" supposed to mean--is it just random gibberish for blank videos or is there some meaning to it?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Cry some more, Chris==
Hahahahahaha! His tears taste magnificent! Greatest CWC video in a while. We're fucking breaking him. [[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]] 05:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Pertinence==
This is worth mentioning in so many other articles. Namely, the articles on [[reality]] and his [[ego]] come to mind. It's a conspiracy, folks! -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Shirt. ==

Hey everyone. I make a crappy smalltime riffing video series for fun, and I decided to ''possibly'' riff this video. I typically brighten videos up when I riff them if they're retardedly dark, and I noticed no one had an idea of what shirt he's wearing, so I took a screencap of my best effort to brighten Chris's day.

http://imgur.com/ygTLM.jpg

It appears to be a new shirt, either a tank top or a tee with the sleeves rolled up, with what I ''believe'' to be the Hogwarts shield on it. Chances are I'm wrong on that, though.

Also, I've noticed he's lost ''alot'' of hair. That may be the reason why he's obstructing himself.

I hope it helps! --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 05:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
* First of all, it looks like the shirt's an orange ''Sonic Heroes'' t-shirt. The little emblem by his left manboob looks like the ''Sonic Heroes'' logo. Second of all, holy shit, where did his hair go?! I know he had more than that when he did that video gloating over removing that piece!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* That frame exaggerates the state of his hair. The camera isn't looking straight at him like it is in the beginning, and the aspect ratio hasn't been enforced. Here's another frame: http://i.imgur.com/Ic9XE.jpg --[[User:Lurker|Lurker]] 06:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* Ah, crap, I forgot I changed the ratio. Sorry about that x3

Yes, this one is much better. I can tell there is a character in that emblem on his shirt, but I'm not sure who it is... It looks like either Dee Dee from Dexter's Lab or XJ9 from My Life As A Teenage Robot to me. It also looks like there's a...rocketship? I believe? --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==The Conspiracy==
I guess I misunderstood the video, because I thought Chris was whining that he would have had a better life in Chesterfield county, but the Chandlers got stuck in Greene county because they couldn't sell the house they are currently living in. Could somebody help a poor slow-in-the-mind like me figure this out? Thanks in advance (please type slowly). [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 06:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Assuming what Chris is telling us is true, I reckon it goes like this. For about the latter five years of the 90s, 14 Branchland Court in Ruckersville was empty while the Chandlers lived in Richmond and Chris was in high school. If they'd successfully sold 14 Branchland Court, they would have had the money to buy a permanent place in the Richmond area. Since they couldn't sell it, it wasn't cost-effective to keep renting homes in Richmond while also paying property taxes on the Ruckersville house and letting it fall into even worse disrepair. Thus, the move back to Ruckersville after Chris graduated high school. Which more or less rings true to me, altogether. (The part about realtors conspiring with the school district...well, yeah.) Anyway, I updated a couple of the articles on Chris's homes with this data, I think I hit the main ones that needed it. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

(1) Chris attends elementary school in Greene County, where sitting on the principal's lap gives him homophobia and a group of teachers abuses him by holding him down and recording his screams and cries. The school board wants him institutionalized so his family moves to Chesterfield County, but keep their house in Greene County.
(2) Chris goes to school in Chesterfield County, where he Comes Out of His Autistic Shell, makes lots of Gal-Pals, and creates Sonichu.
(3) Chris graduates and moves back to Greene County, away from all of his Gal-Pals, and begins his decline. PVCC is in Greene County. If his family had been able to sell their house (it sounds like they must not have had any interest in selling their house) then they would still live in Chesterfield County. You can see pictures of the move in A Week In The Life of Christian Weston Chandler, which is about his High School graduation.
[[User:Urist|Urist]] 06:25, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Simple answer: Chris is blaming everyone else for his problems. How do you not get how this works? [[User:BrokenDead89|BrokenDead89]] 06:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

tl;dr, everything bad in Chris's life is the fault of <s>Adam Stackhouse</s> <s>Joshua Martinez</s> <s>Jerkops</s> <s>Clyde Cash</s> <s>THE IMPOSTOR</s> <s>That Damn ED Page</s> <s>The Cwcki</s> <s>Michael Snyder</s> <s>Ms. Roach the Babysitter</s> <s>Chris's principal</s> The Greene County School Board of the early 1990s. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 06:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Greene County Conspiracy

2010-05-09T06:32:47Z

Hurrrr2: /* The Conspiracy */

Starting transcription [[User:Urist|Urist]] 04:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

A video was released earlier by solidsnakeproductions giving a gay craigslist user looking for good times directions to Chris' house...could this be why he made this video? [[User:LouisLash|LouisLash]] 2:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Doubtful. By the sounds of it, Chris won tickets for some sporting event, no one wanted to go with his smelly ass and when he did go, he was reminded he was a [[Virgin with rage]] by the lovey-dovey couple beside him. Thus, he decided to go after others, blaming ''two fucking counties'' for playing Kick the Autistic!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Name Change==
I know, it just got put up, but this page needs a better name. I vote for either "Chris Whines The Blues" or "The Greene County Conspiracy"--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Moving it here, so it can be seen.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*I like "The Greene County Conspiracy". -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

What's the "100 2178" supposed to mean--is it just random gibberish for blank videos or is there some meaning to it?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Cry some more, Chris==
Hahahahahaha! His tears taste magnificent! Greatest CWC video in a while. We're fucking breaking him. [[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]] 05:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Pertinence==
This is worth mentioning in so many other articles. Namely, the articles on [[reality]] and his [[ego]] come to mind. It's a conspiracy, folks! -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Shirt. ==

Hey everyone. I make a crappy smalltime riffing video series for fun, and I decided to ''possibly'' riff this video. I typically brighten videos up when I riff them if they're retardedly dark, and I noticed no one had an idea of what shirt he's wearing, so I took a screencap of my best effort to brighten Chris's day.

http://imgur.com/ygTLM.jpg

It appears to be a new shirt, either a tank top or a tee with the sleeves rolled up, with what I ''believe'' to be the Hogwarts shield on it. Chances are I'm wrong on that, though.

Also, I've noticed he's lost ''alot'' of hair. That may be the reason why he's obstructing himself.

I hope it helps! --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 05:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
* First of all, it looks like the shirt's an orange ''Sonic Heroes'' t-shirt. The little emblem by his left manboob looks like the ''Sonic Heroes'' logo. Second of all, holy shit, where did his hair go?! I know he had more than that when he did that video gloating over removing that piece!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* That frame exaggerates the state of his hair. The camera isn't looking straight at him like it is in the beginning, and the aspect ratio hasn't been enforced. Here's another frame: http://i.imgur.com/Ic9XE.jpg --[[User:Lurker|Lurker]] 06:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* Ah, crap, I forgot I changed the ratio. Sorry about that x3

Yes, this one is much better. I can tell there is a character in that emblem on his shirt, but I'm not sure who it is... It looks like either Dee Dee from Dexter's Lab or XJ9 from My Life As A Teenage Robot to me. It also looks like there's a...rocketship? I believe? --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==The Conspiracy==
I guess I misunderstood the video, because I thought Chris was whining that he would have had a better life in Chesterfield county, but the Chandlers got stuck in Greene county because they couldn't sell the house they are currently living in. Could somebody help a poor slow-in-the-mind like me figure this out? Thanks in advance (please type slowly). [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 06:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Assuming what Chris is telling us is true, I reckon it goes like this. For about the latter five years of the 90s, 14 Branchland Court in Ruckersville was empty while the Chandlers lived in Richmond and Chris was in high school. If they'd successfully sold 14 Branchland Court, they would have had the money to buy a permanent place in the Richmond area. Since they couldn't sell it, it wasn't cost-effective to keep renting homes in Richmond while also paying property taxes on the Ruckersville house and letting it fall into even worse disrepair. Thus, the move back to Ruckersville after Chris graduated high school. Which more or less rings true to me, altogether. (The part about realtors conspiring with the school district...well, yeah.) Anyway, I updated a couple of the articles on Chris's homes with this data, I think I hit the main ones that needed it. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

(1) Chris attends elementary school in Greene County, where sitting on the principal's lap gives him homophobia and a group of teachers abuses him by holding him down and recording his screams and cries. The school board wants him institutionalized so his family moves to Chesterfield County, but keep their house in Greene County.
(2) Chris goes to school in Chesterfield County, where he Comes Out of His Autistic Shell, makes lots of Gal-Pals, and creates Sonichu.
(3) Chris graduates and moves back to Greene County, away from all of his Gal-Pals, and begins his decline. PVCC is in Greene County. If his family had been able to sell their house (it sounds like they must not have had any interest in selling their house) then they would still live in Chesterfield County. You can see pictures of the move in A Week In The Life of Christian Weston Chandler, which is about his High School graduation.
[[User:Urist|Urist]] 06:25, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Simple answer: Chris is blaming everyone else for his problems. How do you not get how this works? [[User:BrokenDead89|BrokenDead89]] 06:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
tl;dr, everything bad in Chris's life is the fault of <s>Adam Stackhouse</s> <s>Joshua Martinez</s> <s>Jerkops</s> <s>Clyde Cash</s> <s>THE IMPOSTOR</s> <s>That Damn ED Page</s> <s>The Cwcki</s> <s>Michael Snyder</s> <s>Ms. Roach the Babysitter</s> <s>Chris's principal</s> The Greene County School Board of the early 1990s. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 06:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

2010-04-23T07:00:45Z

Hurrrr2:

'''04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless''' is a video uploaded on 23 April 2010.

Wearing only his [[muscle bra|sports bra]], Chris reads easily accessible information about [[Autism]] that he got from Wikipedia and autismspeaks.org for about 7 minutes. He gives his advice regarding how to raise an autistic child, but Chris, as the autistic he is, doesn't realize that he can't be taken seriously if he is wearing a sports bra. Chris then begins his protest against other men walking around shirtless, stating that it should be illegal unless said man is wearing a bra. Note the lack of medallion, or high school ring. Also note the fact that Chris can't explain autism with his own words, and that he talked in a more monotone voice until he was talking about shirtless guys.

Chris appearing in his bra is most likely an attempt to take the wind out of the trolls' sails after [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|the horrors of the day before]].

==Video==
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| name = 04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless
| image = {{#ev:youtube|oRJGyy7KMh4}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 23 April 2010
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter = Autism
| Performance Style = {{Reason}} Reason
| Shirt = Sports Bra
| previous = [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]
| next = Current
}}

===Transcript===

Good day. I’m here today on this, uh, pleasant day of April 2010 to, uh, discuss autism as it is Autism Awareness- Awareness Month. What is Autism? [Reads off clipboard] “Autism is a disorder of neutro- of neurodevelopment characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior. These signs all begin before a child is three years old. Autism affects information processing in the brain [Points to head], by altering how nerve cells and nerve synapses connect and organize; how this concerned [ed--a misreading of 'occurs'] is not well understood.” And by where I got this information printed out here from, uh, autismspeaks.org and the Wikipedia page for autism.

[Deep breath] “Today it is estimated that 1 in every 110 children is diagnosed with autism, making it more common than childhood cancer, juvenile diabetes, and pediatric AIDS combined. An estimated 1.5 million individuals in the United States and tens of millions worldwide are affected by autism. Studies suggest boys are a lot more likely than girls to develop autism and receive the diagnosis three to four times more frequently. Current estimates are that in the United States alone, one out of 70 boys is diagnosed with autism."

"As for social symptoms, uh, from the start typically developing infants are social beings. Early in life, they gaze at people, turn toward voices, grasp a finger, and even smile. By contrast most p-peop- most children with autism seem to have tremendous difficulty learning to engage in the give-and-take of everyday human interactions. Even in the first year of life, many do not interact and avoid eye contact in a no- normal way. They may seem indifferent to other people, and prefer being alone. They may resist attention or passively accept hugs and cuddling. Children with autism also are slower in learning to interpret what others are thinking and feeling. Subtle social cues — such as a smile, a wave , or a grimace—may have little or no meaning to a child with autism. To a child who misses these cues, such things as 'Come here' may always means the same thing, whether the speaker is smiling and extending her arms for a hug or frowning and planting her fists on her hips. Without the ability to interpret gestures and facial expressions, the social world may seem bewildering. To compound the problem, people with autism have difficulty seeing things from other pearson's perspective."

[Turns page on clipboard] "Most 5-year-olds understand that other people have different thoughts, feelings, and goals than they have, than they have. A child with autism may lack such understanding. This inability leaves them unable to predict or understand other people's actions. Predict or understand people’s actions. Although not universal, it is common for people with autism to have difficulty regulating their emotions. This can take the form of ‘immature’ behavior such as [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|crying in class]] or [[Sub-Episode_2#Sub-Episode_2:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22The_Rise_.26_Fall_of_My_Heart.22|verbal outbursts]] that may seem inappropriate to those around them. Sometimes they may also be disruptive or physically aggressive, making social relationships even more difficult. They have a tendency to [[Chris_Loses_It|'lose control']], particularly when they're in a strange or overwhelming environment, or when angry and frustrated."

"Communication. By age 3, most children have passed predictable milestones on the path to learning language; one of the earliest is babbling. Babbling. By the first birthday, a typical toddler says a word or two, turns and looks when he hears his name, points when he wants a toy, and when offered something distasteful, makes it clear that the answer is 'no'. [Scratches head] Some children diagnosed with autism remain mute throughout their lives, although the majority develop spoken language and all eventually learn to communicate in some way. Some infants who later show signs of autism coo and babble during the first few months of their life, but they stop. Others may be delayed, developing language as late as age 5 to 9. Some children may learn to use communication systems such as pictures or sign language, or closed captioning for the hearing impaired. Some speak only single words, while others repeat the same phrase over and over. They may repeat or parrot what they hear, a condition called e-cho-la-lia. Although many children with autism go through a stage where they repeat what they hear, it normally passes by the time they are- they are age 3. Another common difficulty is the inability to understand body language, tone of voice, or “phrases of speech.” For example, someone with autism might interpret a sarcastic expression such as “Oh, that's just great” as meaning it really is great."

"While it can be challenging for others to understand what children with autism are most able to say, their body language may also difficult to understand. [[Creepy_stare|Facial expressions]], movements, and [[Claw_of_fail|gestures]] may not match what they are saying. Also, their tone of voice might fail to reflect their feelings. They might use a [Autism#Chris's_Symptoms|high-pitched, sing-song, or flat, robot-like voice.]] Some children with relatively good language skills speak like little adults, [Turns page] failing to pick up on the kid's speak that is common in their peers. Without meaningful gestures, or the language to ask for things, people with autism are less able to let other know- others know what they are need. As a result, they may simply [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|scream]] or [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Don.27t_Kiss_Me.2C_Bro|grab]] for what they want until they are taught. Better ways to express their needs. Children with autism do whatever they can to get though to others. As they grow up, they can become increasingly aware of their difficulties in understanding others and being understood."

"Repetitive behaviors. Although children with autism usually appear physically normal, repetitive motions may set them apart from other children. These behaviors might be extreme and highly apparent, or more subtle. Some chi- some children and other individuals repeatedly flap their arms, or walk on their toes. (unintelligible) as children, individuals with autism might spend hours lining up their cars or trains in a certain way, rather than using them for pretend play. Someone moves one of the toys, the children m-may be tremendously upset. Many children with autism meed and demand absolute consistency in their environment. A slight change in routine, such as meal time, dressing, [[Chris_and_health#Hygiene|take a bath]], or going to school at the same time or by a certain route can be extremely stressful. Unless the child has made apparent that the change is okay and acceptable. Repetitive behavior sometimes takes the form of a [[China|persistent intense preoccupation.]] These strong interests may be unusual, because their [[Semen#Recycling|content]], or because the [[Love Quest|intensity]] of the interest. Treatment for autism is very intensive, comprehensive undertaking that involves the child's entire family and a team of professionals. Some programs may take place in a child's home with professionals and a trained therapist and may include parental training for the child under supervision of a professional. Some programs are delivered in a specialized center, clu-sumes, or preschool." (puts paper down)

Though, as for me though, I highly recommend mainstreaming, lettin' 'em go though [[Chris and reality|normal life]]. I mean yeah, gib'em [[Monthly tugboat|the special treatment while they're young]] but when you gottdem in elementary- but when you geddem in elementary or middle school... or high school, mainstream is the way to go. Make sure you find yourself a good social teacher teach dem how to cope! And as you may have noticed, I am standing here today.... topless (grabs bra and pushes it upwards) , as you might say. I do this in defense, and in protest, because everytime I-because every time I see a [[Wikipedia:Kratos_(God_of_War)|male individual who goes around or runs around or exercises shirtless]], it is very offensive to me. And I do not appreciate that. And I am sure that it is a lot offens- it is offensive to a-a lot of other people as well. And a-madafra if I could, I would say that-I would make a LAW that would require all male individuals to wear a sports bra while they are out exercising or working if they insist on being shirtless! Come'oin dude, get with the program! No one wants to see these nips! And things are better left a mystery! I leave you all with that, and you have yourself a pleasant, safe day.

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04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

2010-04-23T07:00:18Z

Hurrrr2:

'''04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless''' is a video uploaded on 23 April 2010.

Wearing only his [[muscle bra|sports bra]], Chris reads easily accessible information about [[Autism]] that he got from Wikipedia and autismspeaks.org for about 7 minutes. He gives his advice regarding how to raise an autistic child, but Chris, as the autistic he is, doesn't realize that he can't be taken seriously if he is wearing a sports bra. Chris then begins his protest against other men walking around shirtless, stating that it should be illegal unless said man is wearing a bra. Note the lack of medallion, or high school ring. Also note the fact that Chris can't explain autism with his own words, and that he talked in a more monotone voice until he was talking about shirtless guys.

Chris appearing in his bra is most likely an attempt to take the wind out of the trolls' sails after [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|the horrors of the day before]].

==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = 04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless
| image = {{#ev:youtube|oRJGyy7KMh4}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 23 April 2010
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter = Autism
| Performance Style = {{Reason}} Reason
| Shirt = Sports Bra
| previous = [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]
| next = Current
}}

===Transcript===

Good day. I’m here today on this, uh, pleasant day of April 2010 to, uh, discuss autism as it is Autism Awareness- Awareness Month. What is Autism? [Reads off clipboard] “Autism is a disorder of neutro- of neurodevelopment characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior. These signs all begin before a child is three years old. Autism affects information processing in the brain [Points to head], by altering how nerve cells and nerve synapses connect and organize; how this concerned [ed--a misreading of 'occurs'] is not well understood.” And by where I got this information printed out here from, uh, autismspeaks.org and the Wikipedia page for autism.

[Deep breath] “Today it is estimated that 1 in every 110 children is diagnosed with autism, making it more common than childhood cancer, juvenile diabetes, and pediatric AIDS combined. An estimated 1.5 million individuals in the United States and tens of millions worldwide are affected by autism. Studies suggest boys are a lot more likely than girls to develop autism and receive the diagnosis three to four times more frequently. Current estimates are that in the United States alone, one out of 70 boys is diagnosed with autism."

"As for social symptoms, uh, from the start typically developing infants are social beings. Early in life, they gaze at people, turn toward voices, grasp a finger, and even smile. By contrast most p-peop- most children with autism seem to have tremendous difficulty learning to engage in the give-and-take of everyday human interactions. Even in the first year of life, many do not interact and avoid eye contact in a no- normal way. They may seem indifferent to other people, and prefer being alone. They may resist attention or passively accept hugs and cuddling. Children with autism also are slower in learning to interpret what others are thinking and feeling. Subtle social cues — such as a smile, a wave , or a grimace—may have little or no meaning to a child with autism. To a child who misses these cues, such things as 'Come here' may always means the same thing, whether the speaker is smiling and extending her arms for a hug or frowning and planting her fists on her hips. Without the ability to interpret gestures and facial expressions, the social world may seem bewildering. To compound the problem, people with autism have difficulty seeing things from other pearson's perspective."

[Turns page on clipboard] "Most 5-year-olds understand that other people have different thoughts, feelings, and goals than they have, than they have. A child with autism may lack such understanding. This inability leaves them unable to predict or understand other people's actions. Predict or understand people’s actions. Although not universal, it is common for people with autism to have difficulty regulating their emotions. This can take the form of ‘immature’ behavior such as [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|crying in class]] or [[Sub-Episode_2#Sub-Episode_2:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22The_Rise_.26_Fall_of_My_Heart.22|verbal outbursts]] that may seem inappropriate to those around them. Sometimes they may also be disruptive or physically aggressive, making social relationships even more difficult. They have a tendency to '[[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Chris_Loses_It|lose control]]', particularly when they're in a strange or overwhelming environment, or when angry and frustrated."

"Communication. By age 3, most children have passed predictable milestones on the path to learning language; one of the earliest is babbling. Babbling. By the first birthday, a typical toddler says a word or two, turns and looks when he hears his name, points when he wants a toy, and when offered something distasteful, makes it clear that the answer is 'no'. [Scratches head] Some children diagnosed with autism remain mute throughout their lives, although the majority develop spoken language and all eventually learn to communicate in some way. Some infants who later show signs of autism coo and babble during the first few months of their life, but they stop. Others may be delayed, developing language as late as age 5 to 9. Some children may learn to use communication systems such as pictures or sign language, or closed captioning for the hearing impaired. Some speak only single words, while others repeat the same phrase over and over. They may repeat or parrot what they hear, a condition called e-cho-la-lia. Although many children with autism go through a stage where they repeat what they hear, it normally passes by the time they are- they are age 3. Another common difficulty is the inability to understand body language, tone of voice, or “phrases of speech.” For example, someone with autism might interpret a sarcastic expression such as “Oh, that's just great” as meaning it really is great."

"While it can be challenging for others to understand what children with autism are most able to say, their body language may also difficult to understand. [[Creepy_stare|Facial expressions]], movements, and [[Claw_of_fail|gestures]] may not match what they are saying. Also, their tone of voice might fail to reflect their feelings. They might use a [Autism#Chris's_Symptoms|high-pitched, sing-song, or flat, robot-like voice.]] Some children with relatively good language skills speak like little adults, [Turns page] failing to pick up on the kid's speak that is common in their peers. Without meaningful gestures, or the language to ask for things, people with autism are less able to let other know- others know what they are need. As a result, they may simply [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|scream]] or [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Don.27t_Kiss_Me.2C_Bro|grab]] for what they want until they are taught. Better ways to express their needs. Children with autism do whatever they can to get though to others. As they grow up, they can become increasingly aware of their difficulties in understanding others and being understood."

"Repetitive behaviors. Although children with autism usually appear physically normal, repetitive motions may set them apart from other children. These behaviors might be extreme and highly apparent, or more subtle. Some chi- some children and other individuals repeatedly flap their arms, or walk on their toes. (unintelligible) as children, individuals with autism might spend hours lining up their cars or trains in a certain way, rather than using them for pretend play. Someone moves one of the toys, the children m-may be tremendously upset. Many children with autism meed and demand absolute consistency in their environment. A slight change in routine, such as meal time, dressing, [[Chris_and_health#Hygiene|take a bath]], or going to school at the same time or by a certain route can be extremely stressful. Unless the child has made apparent that the change is okay and acceptable. Repetitive behavior sometimes takes the form of a [[China|persistent intense preoccupation.]] These strong interests may be unusual, because their [[Semen#Recycling|content]], or because the [[Love Quest|intensity]] of the interest. Treatment for autism is very intensive, comprehensive undertaking that involves the child's entire family and a team of professionals. Some programs may take place in a child's home with professionals and a trained therapist and may include parental training for the child under supervision of a professional. Some programs are delivered in a specialized center, clu-sumes, or preschool." (puts paper down)

Though, as for me though, I highly recommend mainstreaming, lettin' 'em go though [[Chris and reality|normal life]]. I mean yeah, gib'em [[Monthly tugboat|the special treatment while they're young]] but when you gottdem in elementary- but when you geddem in elementary or middle school... or high school, mainstream is the way to go. Make sure you find yourself a good social teacher teach dem how to cope! And as you may have noticed, I am standing here today.... topless (grabs bra and pushes it upwards) , as you might say. I do this in defense, and in protest, because everytime I-because every time I see a [[Wikipedia:Kratos_(God_of_War)|male individual who goes around or runs around or exercises shirtless]], it is very offensive to me. And I do not appreciate that. And I am sure that it is a lot offens- it is offensive to a-a lot of other people as well. And a-madafra if I could, I would say that-I would make a LAW that would require all male individuals to wear a sports bra while they are out exercising or working if they insist on being shirtless! Come'oin dude, get with the program! No one wants to see these nips! And things are better left a mystery! I leave you all with that, and you have yourself a pleasant, safe day.

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04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

2010-04-23T06:59:05Z

Hurrrr2:

'''04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless''' is a video uploaded on 23 April 2010.

Wearing only his [[muscle bra|sports bra]], Chris reads easily accessible information about [[Autism]] that he got from Wikipedia and autismspeaks.org for about 7 minutes. He gives his advice regarding how to raise an autistic child, but Chris, as the autistic he is, doesn't realize that he can't be taken seriously if he is wearing a sports bra. Chris then begins his protest against other men walking around shirtless, stating that it should be illegal unless said man is wearing a bra. Note the lack of medallion, or high school ring. Also note the fact that Chris can't explain autism with his own words, and that he talked in a more monotone voice until he was talking about shirtless guys.

Chris appearing in his bra is most likely an attempt to take the wind out of the trolls' sails after [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|the horrors of the day before]].

==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = 04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless
| image = {{#ev:youtube|oRJGyy7KMh4}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 23 April 2010
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter = Autism
| Performance Style = {{Reason}} Reason
| Shirt = Sports Bra
| previous = [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]
| next = Current
}}

===Transcript===

Good day. I’m here today on this, uh, pleasant day of April 2010 to, uh, discuss autism as it is Autism Awareness- Awareness Month. What is Autism? [Reads off clipboard] “Autism is a disorder of neutro- of neurodevelopment characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior. These signs all begin before a child is three years old. Autism affects information processing in the brain [Points to head], by altering how nerve cells and nerve synapses connect and organize; how this concerned [ed--a misreading of 'occurs'] is not well understood.” And by where I got this information printed out here from, uh, autismspeaks.org and the Wikipedia page for autism.

[Deep breath] “Today it is estimated that 1 in every 110 children is diagnosed with autism, making it more common than childhood cancer, juvenile diabetes, and pediatric AIDS combined. An estimated 1.5 million individuals in the United States and tens of millions worldwide are affected by autism. Studies suggest boys are a lot more likely than girls to develop autism and receive the diagnosis three to four times more frequently. Current estimates are that in the United States alone, one out of 70 boys is diagnosed with autism."

"As for social symptoms, uh, from the start typically developing infants are social beings. Early in life, they gaze at people, turn toward voices, grasp a finger, and even smile. By contrast most p-peop- most children with autism seem to have tremendous difficulty learning to engage in the give-and-take of everyday human interactions. Even in the first year of life, many do not interact and avoid eye contact in a no- normal way. They may seem indifferent to other people, and prefer being alone. They may resist attention or passively accept hugs and cuddling. Children with autism also are slower in learning to interpret what others are thinking and feeling. Subtle social cues — such as a smile, a wave , or a grimace—may have little or no meaning to a child with autism. To a child who misses these cues, such things as 'Come here' may always means the same thing, whether the speaker is smiling and extending her arms for a hug or frowning and planting her fists on her hips. Without the ability to interpret gestures and facial expressions, the social world may seem bewildering. To compound the problem, people with autism have difficulty seeing things from other pearson's perspective."

[Turns page on clipboard] "Most 5-year-olds understand that other people have different thoughts, feelings, and goals than they have, than they have. A child with autism may lack such understanding. This inability leaves them unable to predict or understand other people's actions. Predict or understand people’s actions. Although not universal, it is common for people with autism to have difficulty regulating their emotions. This can take the form of ‘immature’ behavior such as [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|crying in class]] or [[Sub-Episode_2#Sub-Episode_2:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22The_Rise_.26_Fall_of_My_Heart.22|verbal outbursts]] that may seem inappropriate to those around them. Sometimes they may also be disruptive or physically aggressive, making social relationships even more difficult. They have a tendency to [[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Chris_Loses_It|‘lose control’]], particularly when they're in a strange or overwhelming environment, or when angry and frustrated."

"Communication. By age 3, most children have passed predictable milestones on the path to learning language; one of the earliest is babbling. Babbling. By the first birthday, a typical toddler says a word or two, turns and looks when he hears his name, points when he wants a toy, and when offered something distasteful, makes it clear that the answer is 'no'. [Scratches head] Some children diagnosed with autism remain mute throughout their lives, although the majority develop spoken language and all eventually learn to communicate in some way. Some infants who later show signs of autism coo and babble during the first few months of their life, but they stop. Others may be delayed, developing language as late as age 5 to 9. Some children may learn to use communication systems such as pictures or sign language, or closed captioning for the hearing impaired. Some speak only single words, while others repeat the same phrase over and over. They may repeat or parrot what they hear, a condition called e-cho-la-lia. Although many children with autism go through a stage where they repeat what they hear, it normally passes by the time they are- they are age 3. Another common difficulty is the inability to understand body language, tone of voice, or “phrases of speech.” For example, someone with autism might interpret a sarcastic expression such as “Oh, that's just great” as meaning it really is great."

"While it can be challenging for others to understand what children with autism are most able to say, their body language may also difficult to understand. [[Creepy_stare|Facial expressions]], movements, and [[Claw_of_fail|gestures]] may not match what they are saying. Also, their tone of voice might fail to reflect their feelings. They might use a [Autism#Chris's_Symptoms|high-pitched, sing-song, or flat, robot-like voice.]] Some children with relatively good language skills speak like little adults, [Turns page] failing to pick up on the kid's speak that is common in their peers. Without meaningful gestures, or the language to ask for things, people with autism are less able to let other know- others know what they are need. As a result, they may simply [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|scream]] or [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Don.27t_Kiss_Me.2C_Bro|grab]] for what they want until they are taught. Better ways to express their needs. Children with autism do whatever they can to get though to others. As they grow up, they can become increasingly aware of their difficulties in understanding others and being understood."

"Repetitive behaviors. Although children with autism usually appear physically normal, repetitive motions may set them apart from other children. These behaviors might be extreme and highly apparent, or more subtle. Some chi- some children and other individuals repeatedly flap their arms, or walk on their toes. (unintelligible) as children, individuals with autism might spend hours lining up their cars or trains in a certain way, rather than using them for pretend play. Someone moves one of the toys, the children m-may be tremendously upset. Many children with autism meed and demand absolute consistency in their environment. A slight change in routine, such as meal time, dressing, [[Chris_and_health#Hygiene|take a bath]], or going to school at the same time or by a certain route can be extremely stressful. Unless the child has made apparent that the change is okay and acceptable. Repetitive behavior sometimes takes the form of a [[China|persistent intense preoccupation.]] These strong interests may be unusual, because their [[Semen#Recycling|content]], or because the [[Love Quest|intensity]] of the interest. Treatment for autism is very intensive, comprehensive undertaking that involves the child's entire family and a team of professionals. Some programs may take place in a child's home with professionals and a trained therapist and may include parental training for the child under supervision of a professional. Some programs are delivered in a specialized center, clu-sumes, or preschool." (puts paper down)

Though, as for me though, I highly recommend mainstreaming, lettin' 'em go though [[Chris and reality|normal life]]. I mean yeah, gib'em [[Monthly tugboat|the special treatment while they're young]] but when you gottdem in elementary- but when you geddem in elementary or middle school... or high school, mainstream is the way to go. Make sure you find yourself a good social teacher teach dem how to cope! And as you may have noticed, I am standing here today.... topless (grabs bra and pushes it upwards) , as you might say. I do this in defense, and in protest, because everytime I-because every time I see a [[Wikipedia:Kratos_(God_of_War)|male individual who goes around or runs around or exercises shirtless]], it is very offensive to me. And I do not appreciate that. And I am sure that it is a lot offens- it is offensive to a-a lot of other people as well. And a-madafra if I could, I would say that-I would make a LAW that would require all male individuals to wear a sports bra while they are out exercising or working if they insist on being shirtless! Come'oin dude, get with the program! No one wants to see these nips! And things are better left a mystery! I leave you all with that, and you have yourself a pleasant, safe day.

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04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

2010-04-23T06:40:37Z

Hurrrr2:

'''04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless''' is a video uploaded on 23 April 2010.

Wearing only his [[muscle bra|sports bra]], Chris reads easily accessible information about [[Autism]] that he got from Wikipedia and autismspeaks.org for about 7 minutes. He gives his advice regarding how to raise an autistic child, but Chris, as the autistic he is, doesn't realize that he can't be taken seriously if he is wearing a sports bra. Chris then begins his protest against other men walking around shirtless, stating that it should be illegal unless said man is wearing a bra. Note the lack of medallion, or high school ring. Also note the fact that Chris can't explain autism with his own words, and that he talked in a more monotone voice until he was talking about shirtless guys.

Chris appearing in his bra is most likely an attempt to take the wind out of the trolls' sails after [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|the horrors of the day before]].

==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = 04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless
| image = {{#ev:youtube|oRJGyy7KMh4}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 23 April 2010
| Maker = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter = Autism
| Performance Style = {{Reason}} Reason
| Shirt = Sports Bra
| previous = [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]
| next = Current
}}

===Transcript===

Good day. I’m here today on this, uh, pleasant day of April 2010 to, uh, discuss autism as it is Autism Awareness- Awareness Month. What is Autism? [Reads off clipboard] “Autism is a disorder of neutro- of neurodevelopment characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior. These signs all begin before a child is three years old. Autism affects information processing in the brain [Points to head], by altering how nerve cells and nerve synapses connect and organize; how this concerned [ed--a misreading of 'occurs'] is not well understood.” And by where I got this information printed out here from, uh, autismspeaks.org and the Wikipedia page for autism.

[Deep breath] “Today it is estimated that 1 in every 110 children is diagnosed with autism, making it more common than childhood cancer, juvenile diabetes, and pediatric AIDS combined. An estimated 1.5 million individuals in the United States and tens of millions worldwide are affected by autism. Studies suggest boys are a lot more likely than girls to develop autism and receive the diagnosis three to four times more frequently. Current estimates are that in the United States alone, one out of 70 boys is diagnosed with autism."

"As for social symptoms, uh, from the start typically developing infants are social beings. Early in life, they gaze at people, turn toward voices, grasp a finger, and even smile. By contrast most p-peop- most children with autism seem to have tremendous difficulty learning to engage in the give-and-take of everyday human interactions. Even in the first year of life, many do not interact and avoid eye contact in a no- normal way. They may seem indifferent to other people, and prefer being alone. They may resist attention or passively accept hugs and cuddling. Children with autism also are slower in learning to interpret what others are thinking and feeling. Subtle social cues — such as a smile, a wave , or a grimace—may have little or no meaning to a child with autism. To a child who misses these cues, such things as 'Come here' may always means the same thing, whether the speaker is smiling and extending her arms for a hug or frowning and planting her fists on her hips. Without the ability to interpret gestures and facial expressions, the social world may seem bewildering. To compound the problem, people with autism have difficulty seeing things from other pearson's perspective."

[Turns page on clipboard] "Most 5-year-olds understand that other people have different thoughts, feelings, and goals than they have, than they have. A child with autism may lack such understanding. This inability leaves them unable to predict or understand other people's actions. Predict or understand people’s actions. Although not universal, it is common for people with autism to have difficulty regulating their emotions. This can take the form of ‘immature’ behavior such as crying in class or verbal outbursts that may seem inappropriate to those around them. Sometimes they may also be disruptive or physically aggressive, making social relationships even more difficult. They have a tendency to ‘lose control’, particularly when they're in a strange or overwhelming environment, or when angry and frustrated."

"Communication. By age 3, most children have passed predictable milestones on the path to learning language; one of the earliest is babbling. Babbling. By the first birthday, a typical toddler says a word or two, turns and looks when he hears his name, points when he wants a toy, and when offered something distasteful, makes it clear that the answer is 'no'. [Scratches head] Some children diagnosed with autism remain mute throughout their lives, although the majority develop spoken language and all eventually learn to communicate in some way. Some infants who later show signs of autism coo and babble during the first few months of their life, but they stop. Others may be delayed, developing language as late as age 5 to 9. Some children may learn to use communication systems such as pictures or sign language, or closed captioning for the hearing impaired. Some speak only single words, while others repeat the same phrase over and over. They may repeat or parrot what they hear, a condition called e-cho-la-lia. Although many children with autism go through a stage where they repeat what they hear, it normally passes by the time they are- they are age 3. Another common difficulty is the inability to understand body language, tone of voice, or “phrases of speech.” For example, someone with autism might interpret a sarcastic expression such as “Oh, that's just great” as meaning it really is great."

"While it can be challenging for others to understand what children with autism are most able to say, their body language may also difficult to understand. Facial expressions, movements, and gestures may not match what they are saying. Also, their tone of voice might fail to reflect their feelings. They might use a high-pitched, sing-song, or flat, robot-like voice. Some children with relatively good language skills speak like little adults, [Turns page] failing to pick up on the kid's speak that is common in their peers. Without meaningful gestures, or the language to ask for things, people with autism are less able to let other know- others know what they are need. As a result, they may simply [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|scream]] or grab for what they want until they are taught. Better ways to express their needs. Children with autism do whatever they can to get though to others. As they grow up, they can become increasingly aware of their difficulties in understanding others and being understood."

"Repetitive behaviors. Although children with autism usually appear physically normal, repetitive motions may set them apart from other children. These behaviors might be extreme and highly apparent, or more subtle. Some chi- some children and other individuals repeatedly flap their arms, or walk on their toes. (unintelligible) as children, individuals with autism might spend hours lining up their cars or trains in a certain way, rather than using them for pretend play. Someone moves one of the toys, the children m-may be tremendously upset. Many children with autism meed and demand absolute consistency in their environment. A slight change in routine, such as meal time, dressing, [[Chris_and_health#Hygiene|take a bath]], or going to school at the same time or by a certain route can be extremely stressful. Unless the child has made apparent that the change is okay and acceptable. Repetitive behavior sometimes takes the form of a [[Love_Quest|persistent intense preoccupation.]] These strong interests may be unusual, because their content, or because the intensity of the interest. Treatment for autism is very intensive, comprehensive undertaking that involves the child's entire family and a team of professionals. Some programs may take place in a child's home with professionals and a trained therapist and may include parental training for the child under supervision of a professional. Some programs are delivered in a specialized center, clu-sumes, or preschool." (puts paper down)

Though, as for me though, I highly recommend mainstreaming, lettin' 'em go though normal life. I mean yeah, gib'em the special treatment while they're young but when you gottdem in elementary- but when you geddem in elementary or middle school... or high school, mainstream is the way to go. Make sure you find yourself a good social teacher teach dem how to cope! And as you may have noticed, I am standing here today.... topless (grabs bra and pushes it upwards) , as you might say. I do this in defense, and in protest, because everytime I-because every time I see a [[Wikipedia:Kratos_(God_of_War)|male individual who goes around or runs around or exercises shirtless]], it is very offensive to me. And I do not appreciate that. And I am sure that it is a lot offens- it is offensive to a-alot of other people as well. And a-madafra if I could, I would say that-I would make a LAW that would require all male individuals to wear a sports bra while they are out exercising or working if they insist on being shirtless! Come'oin dude, get with the program! No one wants to see these nips! And things are better left a mystery! I leave you all with that, and you have yourself a pleasant, safe day.

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Talk:04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

2010-04-23T06:32:17Z

Hurrrr2:

I'm unfamiliar with the template and general style for describing videos, but just a heads up that I'm trying my hand at transcribing this monstrosity now since I have too much free time these days. Here goes nothing. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* I'll give it a shot too. You do the first half, I do the second half? [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 05:31, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Sure, give me a timestamp to stop working at. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** I just did 7:35 to the ending, I'll start work at 6:00-7:35 now. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 05:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Why transcribe when you can just cut and paste from Wikipedia? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:43, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Because MY AUTISM makes me insist on capturing all of Chris's little inaccuracies and deviations from his script. Transcript up, can somebody please put some links into his speech? There's much to work with here since Chris's life, as we all know, is pretty much a checklist for everything wrong that a person with autism can do in any given situation, social or otherwise.[[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 06:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I have this one downloaded, just incase. [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 05:26, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

{{Not A Forum}}

YAAAAH! I hate the fact that YouTube picks a certain spot for a video. Nothing more ''thrilling'' than clicking a link and seeing Chris in his BRA!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:31, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

==New Shirt Icon==
Okay, my freak out into a "Not a Forum" template appearance notwithstanding, you think we should add in his sports bra as an icon? I mean, seriously, he's worn it in, what, two, three videos now? If the "Mount And Do Her" shirt got one, I think the bra should too. I'd make the icon, but I suck at graphics.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

2010-04-23T06:32:01Z

Hurrrr2:

I'm unfamiliar with the template and general style for describing videos, but just a heads up that I'm trying my hand at transcribing this monstrosity now since I have too much free time these days. Here goes nothing. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* I'll give it a shot too. You do the first half, I do the second half? [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 05:31, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Sure, give me a timestamp to stop working at. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** I just did 7:35 to the ending, I'll start work at 6:00-7:35 now. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 05:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Why transcribe when you can just cut and paste from Wikipedia? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:43, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Because MY AUTISM makes me insist on capturing all of Chris's little inaccuracies and deviations from his script. Transcript up, can somebody please put some links into his speech? There's much to work with here since Chris's life, as we all know, is pretty much a checklist for everything wrong that a person with autism can do in any given situation, social or otherwise.

I have this one downloaded, just incase. [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 05:26, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

{{Not A Forum}}

YAAAAH! I hate the fact that YouTube picks a certain spot for a video. Nothing more ''thrilling'' than clicking a link and seeing Chris in his BRA!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:31, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

==New Shirt Icon==
Okay, my freak out into a "Not a Forum" template appearance notwithstanding, you think we should add in his sports bra as an icon? I mean, seriously, he's worn it in, what, two, three videos now? If the "Mount And Do Her" shirt got one, I think the bra should too. I'd make the icon, but I suck at graphics.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

2010-04-23T06:29:24Z

Hurrrr2:

'''04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless''' is a video uploaded on 23 April 2010.

Wearing only his [[muscle bra|sports bra]], Chris reads easily accessible information about [[Autism]] that he got from Wikipedia and autismspeaks.org for about 7 minutes. He gives his advice regarding how to raise an autistic child, but Chris, as the autistic he is, doesn't realize that he can't be taken seriously if he is wearing a sports bra. Chris then begins his protest against other men walking around shirtless, stating that it should be illegal unless said man is wearing a bra. Note the lack of medallion, or high school ring. Also note the fact that Chris can't explain autism with his own words, and that he talked in a more monotone voice until he was talking about shirtless guys.

Chris appearing in his bra is most likely an attempt to take the wind out of the trolls' sails after [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|the horrors of the day before]].

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Good day. I’m here today on this, uh, pleasant day of April 2010 to, uh, discuss autism as it is Autism Awareness- Awareness Month. What is Autism? [Reads off clipboard] “Autism is a disorder of neutro- of neurodevelopment characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior. These signs all begin before a child is three years old. Autism affects information processing in the brain [Points to head], by altering how nerve cells and nerve synapses connect and organize; how this concerned [ed--a misreading of 'occurs'] is not well understood.” And by where I got this information printed out here from, uh, autismspeaks.org and the Wikipedia page for autism.

[Deep breath] “Today it is estimated that 1 in every 110 children is diagnosed with autism, making it more common than childhood cancer, juvenile diabetes, and pediatric AIDS combined. An estimated 1.5 million individuals in the United States and tens of millions worldwide are affected by autism. Studies suggest boys are a lot more likely than girls to develop autism and receive the diagnosis three to four times more frequently. Current estimates are that in the United States alone, one out of 70 boys is diagnosed with autism."

"As for social symptoms, uh, from the start typically developing infants are social beings. Early in life, they gaze at people, turn toward voices, grasp a finger, and even smile. By contrast most p-peop- most children with autism seem to have tremendous difficulty learning to engage in the give-and-take of everyday human interactions. Even in the first year of life, many do not interact and avoid eye contact in a no- normal way. They may seem indifferent to other people, and prefer being alone. They may resist attention or passively accept hugs and cuddling. Children with autism also are slower in learning to interpret what others are thinking and feeling. Subtle social cues — such as a smile, a wave , or a grimace—may have little or no meaning to a child with autism. To a child who misses these cues, such things as 'Come here' may always means the same thing, whether the speaker is smiling and extending her arms for a hug or frowning and planting her fists on her hips. Without the ability to interpret gestures and facial expressions, the social world may seem bewildering. To compound the problem, people with autism have difficulty seeing things from other pearson's perspective."

[Turns page on clipboard] "Most 5-year-olds understand that other people have different thoughts, feelings, and goals than they have, than they have. A child with autism may lack such understanding. This inability leaves them unable to predict or understand other people's actions. Predict or understand people’s actions. Although not universal, it is common for people with autism to have difficulty regulating their emotions. This can take the form of ‘immature’ behavior such as crying in class or verbal outbursts that may seem inappropriate to those around them. Sometimes they may also be disruptive or physically aggressive, making social relationships even more difficult. They have a tendency to ‘lose control’, particularly when they're in a strange or overwhelming environment, or when angry and frustrated."

"Communication. By age 3, most children have passed predictable milestones on the path to learning language; one of the earliest is babbling. Babbling. By the first birthday, a typical toddler says a word or two, turns and looks when he hears his name, points when he wants a toy, and when offered something distasteful, makes it clear that the answer is 'no'. [Scratches head] Some children diagnosed with autism remain mute throughout their lives, although the majority develop spoken language and all eventually learn to communicate in some way. Some infants who later show signs of autism coo and babble during the first few months of their life, but they stop. Others may be delayed, developing language as late as age 5 to 9. Some children may learn to use communication systems such as pictures or sign language, or closed captioning for the hearing impaired. Some speak only single words, while others repeat the same phrase over and over. They may repeat or parrot what they hear, a condition called e-cho-la-lia. Although many children with autism go through a stage where they repeat what they hear, it normally passes by the time they are- they are age 3. Another common difficulty is the inability to understand body language, tone of voice, or “phrases of speech.” For example, someone with autism might interpret a sarcastic expression such as “Oh, that's just great” as meaning it really is great."

"While it can be challenging for others to understand what children with autism are most able to say, their body language may also difficult to understand. Facial expressions, movements, and gestures may not match what they are saying. Also, their tone of voice might fail to reflect their feelings. They might use a high-pitched, sing-song, or flat, robot-like voice. Some children with relatively good language skills speak like little adults, [Turns page] failing to pick up on the kid's speak that is common in their peers. Without meaningful gestures, or the language to ask for things, people with autism are less able to let other know- others know what they are need. As a result, they may simply [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|scream]] or grab for what they want until they are taught. Better ways to express their needs. Children with autism do whatever they can to get though to others. As they grow up, they can become increasingly aware of their difficulties in understanding others and being understood."

"Repetitive behaviors. Although children with autism usually appear physically normal, repetitive motions may set them apart from other children. These behaviors might be extreme and highly apparent, or more subtle. Some chi- some children and other individuals repeatedly flap their arms, or walk on their toes. (unintelligible) as children, individuals with autism might spend hours lining up their cars or trains in a certain way, rather than using them for pretend play. Someone moves one of the toys, the children m-may be tremendously upset. Many children with autism meed and demand absolute consistency in their environment. A slight change in routine, such as meal time, dressing, [[Chris_and_health#Hygiene|take a bath]], or going to school at the same time or by a certain route can be extremely stressful. Unless the child has made apparent that the change is okay and acceptable. Repetitive behavior sometimes takes the form of a persistent intense preoccupation. These strong interests may be unusual, because their content, or because the intensity of the interest. Treatment for autism is very intensive, comprehensive undertaking that involves the child's entire family and a team of professionals. Some programs may take place in a child's home with professionals and a trained therapist and may include parental training for the child under supervision of a professional. Some programs are delivered in a specialized center, clu-sumes, or preschool." (puts paper down)

Though, as for me though, I highly recommend mainstreaming, lettin' 'em go though normal life. I mean yeah, gib'em the special treatment while they're young but when you gottdem in elementary- but when you geddem in elementary or middle school... or high school, mainstream is the way to go. Make sure you find yourself a good social teacher teach dem how to cope! And as you may have noticed, I am standing here today.... topless (grabs bra and pushes it upwards) , as you might say. I do this in defense, and in protest, because everytime I-because every time I see a [[Wikipedia:Kratos_(God_of_War)|male individual who goes around or runs around or exercises shirtless]], it is very offensive to me. And I do not appreciate that. And I am sure that it is a lot offens- it is offensive to a-alot of other people as well. And a-madafra if I could, I would say that-I would make a LAW that would require all male individuals to wear a sports bra while they are out exercising or working if they insist on being shirtless! Come'oin dude, get with the program! No one wants to see these nips! And things are better left a mystery! I leave you all with that, and you have yourself a pleasant, safe day.

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Talk:04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless

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Talk:The Wallflower

2010-04-19T02:27:24Z

Hurrrr2:

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|center]]
Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:"We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall." Moralfag my ass. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:You're winner. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* For those of you keeping score at home, Chris himself has published her full name on the Cwcipedia under an exhaustive list of 'Past Sweethearts'. (yes yes ffffffff, goddammit chris, etc etc) Considering this nugget of fail was yielded unprovoked by the manchild, would it be against the 'no irl names' rule on this page to at least link to his cwcipedia page on here? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Her Side of the Story ==

Has anyone tried contacting her to get her side of the story? If she is an innocent victim of Chris, than we should allow her to post her version of events as to how they met, and whether Chris was actually her boyfriend (Which I highly doubt) or merely just an friend that he wanted to rape. I know she sent an email asking for her page to be taken down, so that must me that the admins have an email address for her. It would be very enlightening to learn what relationship she has with Tito, and if she became Chris's new Megan. If she's already stated that she doesn't want to comment, that's cool. she's been victimized enough [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

*she's already contacted the cwcki herself. similar to megan, she doesn't want to tell her side but fair enough. just let her be. one day, the truth may come out but not now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

True. I only bring this up because it seem's she has surfaced on youtube, talking about Chris. Whether the accounts is real or a fake is up for discussion [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Remove the fanfiction.net image? ==

I was wondering- should the "How to troll trolls & Chris" image (the_link.jpg) of fanfiction.net be removed? Surfshack Tito has been shown to be the one who informed the Wallflower about Chris's true life & internet infamy. I didn't recollect seeing any info about the "ThyEnvysGreed" person on the article anymore (unless I missed it just now), so I kind of think it should be removed because it really doesn't have much to do with the Wallflower herself or Chris, not really anyway. I thought I'd ask here first, though. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 18:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
:*I have uploaded the image for two reasons. First, we have the historical context. This is THE message that blew-up Chris's cover as a decent bloke and ended the 8 hours Wallflower Saga. Then, it also proves us our prominence as the source of everything CWC-related. Wallflower wasn't pointed to ED but to us. This says something by itself. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:My only thing though, is how do we know that this is how Wallflower found out? Chris has said Tito did it (after saying Clyde did it, of course), but Tito hasn't revealed how he did it. My problem is that all we have to go on is the claims of 'ThyEnvysGreed'. Also, Chris hasn't specified how Wallflower found out, nor has the lady herself. We don't really have any proof of it, is all. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 13:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
::*No, we don't have a point-by-point list about how Wallflower found out Chris's faggotery. This is something she might explain to us if she so chose. This being said, the screen shot proves us that someone hinted the lady towards the CWCki. For me, this is close enough. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Friend Zone ==

"He has no truck with the notion of "just friends." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the 15 January 2010 edition of the Mailbag."

I'm not sure about this section staying in. Chris has been angry at the Friend Zone as early as [[Mailbag 4]] which was way back in November.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean

2010-04-15T16:38:18Z

Hurrrr2: typo

[[File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|thumb|Chris begs the masses to support his cause.]]
'''Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean''' (full title "'''04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only)'''") is an audio recording released by [[Chris]] chronicling an attempt to get himself unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] by confronting [[Michael Snyder|Michael Snyder]], the [[manajerks|manager]] who permanently ejected him from the store in the summer of [[2008]]. Chris recorded their conversation by hiding a video camera in his pocket.

As usual, Chris adds this to his list of fails as Michael is unmoved by his attempts to get back in, and is entirely justified in this belief. According to Michael himself, Chris's plea was a script he had written down on a piece of paper.<ref>http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=u_p6bShW97Y</ref> He also, it seems, can't remember why he was kicked out of the store in the first place. He mentions a "[[Nintendo|Wii]] incident," an occasion where he angered the management with his regular habit of taking over the store's television with his [[video game]] consoles, but otherwise he appears to be genuinely confused as to why Snyder won't let him back in. Oddly, yet hilariously, Chris adds to his streak of [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racist videos]] by shouting "JEW!" at Michael as he leaves the store, [[South Park|like a certain other fat kid]]. Of note, Michael is not actually Jewish, and the last name Snyder (or Schneider) is German in origin.

The conversation took place on 12 [[April 2010]] and Chris uploaded it to [[YouTube]] later the same day. Shortly after it was posted, the recording was removed from YouTube due to a terms of use violation, either because of Chris's anti-Semitic attitude, because the recording itself may have been illegal, or because of the dox and incitement to harass dropped in the description. In the early morning hours of the next day, Chris added a text-only [[:File:AskMichaelSnyder.jpg|image]] on the front page of [[CWCipedia]] accusing Michael Snyder of [[Kick the Autistic|discriminating against him]] for having [[autism]] (which is just conjecture on Chris's part, as opposed to Chris's own completely undeniable discrimination against Snyder for having a name he thinks sounds Jewish), and linked to a mirror of the deleted video.

One way or another, this video is absolute proof of Chris violating the law--he dropped into the store unannounced with full knowledge that he wasn't supposed to be there. [[Virginia]] defines this as "trespassing", which is a crime punishable by a fine not to exceed $2500, at most one year in prison, or both. According to Mimms, cops were called after this happened, though it is currently unknown, yet still very unlikely, if Michael will press the issue.
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==Description==
In the video's description, copied below, Chris invites his fans to harass Snyder and other store employees. Roughly a month after turning on his [[fans|fan following]] and describing them as "[[Chris|greedy, impatient, unloved and corrupted people]]" in his 10 March [[CWC Blog|blog entry]], he's back to believing that he has a personal army.

{{quotebox|This happened on my recent visit to the Game & Hobby Place. My Camera was hidden in my Vest Pocket.

I encourage all to go there in person, find Michael, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|pester/Troll]] the hell out of him (other employees who support him optional). Also say to Michael, "[[Chris and race|Do Not Discriminate]] Against People like Christian Weston Chandler."

243 Ridge McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 984-1040}}

Michael then proceeded to drop Chris's phone number (however, Chris had beaten him to the punch multiple times).
==Video==
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| name = 04122010 - Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean (Audio Only).MOV
| image = {{#ev:youtube|6odVsyr3I40}}
| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 12 April 2010
| Maker = [[Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Subject Matter =
| Performance Style = {{Reason}} Reason, {{Rage}} Rage
| Saga =
| Shirt = Unknown
| previous = [[F_Abstinance]]
| next = [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|Current]]}}

===Transcript===

[''Chris is speaking into a recorder as he walks along. From the sound of it, he's outdoors.'']

'''Chris:''' This is Christian Weston Chandler, [[Captain's Log]]. Stardate... 4:34 PM, Monday, April 12, 2010. I am about to go into the Game and Comic Hobby Place — also sell toys there — to get myself, to try to get myself unbanned and get forgiveness for the mistake I have made almost a year ago when I was banned from the store in June of 2008.

[''Heavy [[sigh]] from Chris.'']

'''Chris:''' The dude who banned me was, his name is Michael Snyder, possibly a [[Chris and race#Jews|Jew]] considering his last name. [[Lie|Nothing bad against the Jews, but I'm just throwin' it out there.]] Alright, so, here I go. [''sigh'']

[''Sound of Chris opening and walking through the door into the store. "Every Morning" by Sugar Ray faintly plays in the background, while we get a good view of the inside of Chris's pocket.'']

'''Chris:''' Hello, I'm here to see Michael.

 '''Employee:''' Yeah, he's in the room back here.

[''We come upon Michael, who is fixing an RC car. His remarks are occasionally interrupted by whoever he is helping. Judging by the audio, Chris is standing relatively close to him, close enough to occasionally hear whoever is on the phone speaking.'']

 '''Michael:''' Well, I mean, you're, you, you'll just see that by running it. I mean, it was running okay the other day. But just, you know, adjust it one way or the other depending on temperature and everything else. But, you know, it just, it's not usually much. By changing fuel, it doesn't usually change... tuning that much. Mmkay... Uh-huh. Yeah, no, it'll be fine... Right, yeah, it'll be fine. [pause] Okay... Okay... Who made it?

[''The recorder seems to move away from the conversation, and a long silence follows. Various store noises occur in the background, including the bell from someone opening the front door.'']

 '''Michael:''' Okay. Alright. Sounds good. Mm-hm. Bye.

'''Chris:''' Hello, Michael. I see, uh... You've been, I see you're looking well. Haven't changed much since, for the past almost two years. And, yeah, it has been, uh, almost two years since... uh, what happened, uh, June- June of 2008. But, uh, I came back hoping that, uh, we could put that behind us and...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' Come on. I mean, it has been almost two years, and it's just been on my mind for so long, just be...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' [''sigh''] But, can't we just [[Mary Lee Walsh|forgive]] and forget?

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' C'mon, to have this...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' ...weight on my back...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' And I have really...

 '''Michael:''' No.

'''Chris:''' ...missed coming here.

 '''Michael:''' No. No. You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' I'm, I'm a better person...

 '''Michael:''' You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' [''heavy sigh''] C'mon, what? Come on, dude...

 '''Michael:''' No! You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' [[Twin Falling Towers|How can you be so heartless?]] I mean, you're, I mean, you're obviously not as mean as one of those trolls I've been dealing with...

 '''Michael:''' You need to leave now.

'''Chris:''' I mean, come on, I mean, obviously you have something against me, [''four beeping noises are heard, possibly Michael dialing out to 911''] because aside from the Wii incident, I just would like to know ''what''. Come on. Gimme a break. Alright, fine, I'll leave.

[''His tone becomes sharp and angry.'']

'''Chris:''' But I hope that [[Chris and Religion|God will forgive you]] for being so [[Chris and Hypocrisy#"I'll pray for you to open your mind" — Tolerance|heartless and cruel]], Michael Snyder!

 '''Michael:''' He probably will.

'''Chris:''' JEW!

[''Chris goes out the door, tape runs out.'']

==Aftermath==
During the confrontation, Michael called the [[jerkops|police]]. However, Chris was long gone by the time they arrived. Should the book actually be thrown his way, Chris will be in great danger. The autism card can only go so far, and the community service argument that saved him during his trial after the incident at [[Target]] will not save him here.

[[Vivian Gee]] would soon make a ''[[South Park]]''-style [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWq4pB_Vikw animation] using the audio from this clip. Christian himself stopped by to make the following comments on her video:

{{quotebox|Hey, Vivian. I'm going to tell you right now that if you were trying to offend me with this "South Park" Parody; You Failed. This is just SOO FUNNY! You ought to know I like "South Park", especially the less dramatic, more comical episodes. ROFL}}

{{quotebox|Actually, there is ONE more thing you could to just make this a TOPPER of a Comical Scene; I gave him the finger as I left for real, so add a Sit-And-Spin in the silence right before the final insult. ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL}}

On the linked Youtube page (without the animation) the opposite party, Snyder, chimed in to inform everyone that, while he had attempted to press charges against Chris for trespassing, the police informed him that he had no recourse to pursue legal action for Chris's trespasing or attemptes to incite harassment. It all seems for naught anyway, as Snyder mentions that, not only has he not received any harassing messages, but he's actually gotten messages of congratulations and encouragement for putting that [[Chris|fat retard]] in his place.

{{quotebox|I have been told I have no recourse for any of his actions, and his encouraging people to harass me. Turnabout is fair play?? }}
{{quotebox|I want to thank all my fans for their calls supporting me, and feel he needs to stay home and get your calls. His phone number in the book is 434-990-0198. Happy dialing,
Mike
Elvis has left the building }}

==See also==
* [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place]]
* [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]]

==Sauces==
<references />

==External links==
*[http://www.mediafire.com/?gmqwe4kmgzm MP3 download]

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[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

Talk:The Hook Cafe

2010-04-09T10:28:59Z

Hurrrr2:

Hi guys, I think this might be a fake account: http://twitter.com/search?q=-RT%20sonichu+-sonichu1%20-wildsonichu1%20-MaryLeeWalsh1%20-Sandy_Rosechu%20-WildSonichu1#search?q=-RT%20sonichu%20-sonichu1%20-wildsonichu1%20-MaryLeeWalsh1%20-Sandy_Rosechu%20-WildSonichu1 [[User:Godz1lla|Godz1lla]] 18:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*Twitter link is broke. Can you fix it? [[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]]
:*This should work: http://twitter.com/#search?q=crescentskunk I'm not sure about this any more though, the account seems to be different now that I've seen crescentskunk's preview, I might have just jumped the gun a bit.[[User:Godz1lla|Godz1lla]] 08:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
I'll set to putting together a summary of this, I guess. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 22:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I'll check the link later, but thank much for posting a fresh one.--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 00:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
*The current format sucks (no offense). We need to mirror the content - the last Hook Cafe ad Chris had is forever lost in time, so now we need to mirror this for when this inevitably gets hacked. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:* So you want it all replicated word-for-word? Easily done. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 22:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

*Chris's favorite radio station: http://www.z95.net/ --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 23:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:* And it's...yep, home to the John Tesh show. Weird. So far as I can tell this is like a station for 35-year-old women. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 23:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I think the numerous John Tesh references (at least the times he's popped up in the background of calls) might warrant an article for the guy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*I was about to say the exact same thing. Especially since he probably provided the germ for Chris's fixation on the three-date rule. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 23:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh god....
Anyway he's aiming a little high isn't he?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
*Only if you mean him not accepting anyone: over age 28, overweight, mature, or of any ethnicity other than white. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
*I just noticed the "blacks need not apply part
:* Well of course. Don't you know that being racist towards black people is personal trait that women find attractive? :P This is classic Chris- doing at least one major thing that causes him to fail without him realizing it. --[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
*"''People say my face is my best feature.''" I don't know what to think. Either Chris isn't aware that acne isn't attractive, or he thinks people won't notice. So yeah, Chris is aiming a little high.
** Well, his face kind of ''is'' his best feature, his [[Obesity|other]] [[Duck|features]] are, in fact, that bad. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 21:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Well... at least he's saying 21 instead of 18. That's almost like progress. Almost.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
** I have to wonder if he found out about the "half your age plus seven" rule that people sometimes use to figure an appropriate age to date. Knowing Chris's tendency to take such things as written in stone rules... so yeah. [[User:Magic8Ball|Magic8Ball]] 00:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::*As long as It keeps him from hitting on High School girls, I'm okay with it. The facebook messages he sent to that one 17 year old still make me shudder.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*Welp, the little voice in my head told me to sign up in order to troll Chris, so I went for it...unfortunately, I need to have credits in order to establish communication. Should I abort and let a for real person do it instead? [[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]]
**How much is it gonna set you back?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
**Considering that a ninety day pass is $40.00USD, and I believe I have seventy bucks in my checking account, I think I should abort. Any thoughts? --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 00:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
*** I created a fake account, paid for it, uploaded some bullshit and flirted with Chris. I also sent him an e-mail saying I'd upload a picture and my 'digits' as soon as I got home from school. No replies yet, but without a picture I probably won't get far. Unfortunately, I am stuck in Sydney airport with only an iPhone for Internet so I can't upload one right away. I will attempt to find a net cafe or something- this opportunity is too good to pass up. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

*Damn it guys, stop trying to be the next bluespike, what is needed is a field agent to go on a date with Chris, and try to get even more info, who knows, it might be the return of the man in the pickle suit.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I haven't seen anything that brings up bluespike-like trolling. If anything this'll could turn into another Kacey or, if we use a field agent, another Emily. Do we have any willing field agents we could call upon? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 04:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I'm not trying to be anyone. I wanted to rattle some cages. I guess I should abort my mission, huh?--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 00:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
** I live in Australia and I have a pickle, or I totally would. This is the best I can do. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I don't suppose this fake account is "luv2jax", the girl who wants a 26-30 year old, hates smoking, and can't seem to get enough shopping or sex? The same girl who thinks "a monkey on roller skates" would be ''hilarious''? She seems to be designed for Chris. Regardless, please nobody interfere if it looks like he gets a genuine response. I think that would have a lot more comedic potential. His profile is close enough to non-retarded that it just might get the attention of a racist woman with very low standards. There's got to be one at least one of those in Virginia. --[[User:Homeless prophet|Homeless prophet]] 22:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Er, forget that guess. I filtered for ages 21-28 and didn't see the obvious one. --[[User:Homeless prophet|Homeless prophet]] 03:14, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*I had exactly the same thought as you. I honestly think he'll be more attracted to the other 'chick' that I'm a little disheartened, but 'eh. I am convinced the other is a fake too, so much so that I sent her a message along the lines of 'ohai so i herd you zap to the extreme?'. No reply yet, but if I was that person I'd be reluctant to blow my cover after that much work. The eventual plan with this persona is to reveal she's actually 12 years old to see how Chris responds to loli. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* For what it's worth, "luv2jax" is the screenname of a user on Xtube. Don't know if it's a coincidence or not. However, I think I saw her picture at [[/cwc/]] so I think it's probably a troll too.

I too tried to troll chris but I underestimated his autism. I had a backup plan, though. We might see a surprise this saturday at chris' house. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] 02:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
* Did you get a reply at all? All I got was deafening silence, followed by a ban (despite five emails and a flirt). Any idea what might of happened, and did your account get banned too? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
== So should we do this for his other dating profiles too? ==

I mean, I'm looking at his OkCupid Profile right now. I'm pretty sure it's several years old, but even back then he still checked himself off as looking for casual sex.

Not that he'll ever get any.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Now that I think about it, probably the best way to do it would be to have one page titled "Dating sites" where we mirror his various awful dating profiles of fail.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

*No, I think each individual one should. Redundant but these are primary sources and it's easier to cite an individual profile. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I once listed a number under [[Dating]]. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Religion: None ==

That's unusual. I've said that Chris isn't a "Christian" in any real way before, but I know he self-identifies as one pretty strongly. It's really weird for him to list himself as "None, Christian". I guess it's possible he finally realized that openly Christian women typically aren't seeking casual sex, so this way he shows up on searches for people without religion, but its' still not very Chris-like at all.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

•I noticed that as well. I didn't have any clue why he would do such a thing given his strong Christian identity, but the idea that he wants to show up on the searches of Godless Heathen Babes looking for sexy sweets rings true to me. The Fuck Quest overrides all other concerns, after all. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

* There are 3 possible explanations. 1) He's a dumbass 2) He i s tired of being called upon, every time he does something that goes against the bible, so he now has an excuse of " nah i don't follow the bible directly" and still say " the homos are going to hell because the bible says so". 3)He doesn't want to be with a woman that's too much into religion anymore, to not get the "abstinence" excuse to not have hankey pankey. Either way, it's because Chris had enough of religion for a while, since it's not helping him right now.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

:*There's no way of knowing until Chris explains it himself, and the best way to do that is to put a huge ad on the CWCipedia accusing Chris of abandoning God and selling his soul to the devil.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

:*When you fill out the profile, there's a drop-down menu of various religion choices, plus an open field to fill in whatever you want if your choice isn't in the menu. Chris picked "None" from the drop-down menu because Methodist isn't one of the options offered, then typed Christian/Methodist in the open field. If he'd left the drop-down alone, it probably wouldn't have displayed anything. So he hasn't abandoned his faith or anything, he just fucked up filling out a web form. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 04:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Diaken's explination makes the most sense. Which is kind of a shame because it's also the most boring. I don't think my initial "wants to show up on searches for atheist" guess is too far off though.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Chris hardly even knows what Atheism is, and from what we gather he has as much of an irrational hatred of Atheists as he does with Homosexuals and the like. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh it's elementary, Watson. He's of no religion now (fuck abstinency!), but he's still Christian... Weston Chandler! --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

*YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 21:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Earlier ad ==

Oldfags may recall Chris had an add through here before, which may have been documented somewhere on the ED page if you dig. I doubt anyone archived it though, and I do recall it was legit though it was eventually hacked to make it seem like Chris was gay and how his favorite food was pickles, etc. This should be referenced somewhere though. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, here's where the ad used to be: http://charlottesville.selectalternatives.com/gyrobase/Personals/Profile?person=oid%3A239898 [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Gone? ==

As of a few minutes ago both Chris' and Sandy's pages appear to be gone. I'm gunna make a guess here and say that Chris finally fucking checked his email and made the connection between the 12 year old girl calling him and the adults only ad with an 18 year old in it. I would guess that Snorlax flew into a rage and got him to take down the page, while reporting Sandy's. That or I'm retarded and they're still up. I'm at work so I only have my iPhone ATM, can anyone confirm? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:02, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

:Well the links at the bottom of the page don't work. That's as good an indicator as any.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's gone. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] 02:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Any word on whether the deletion was done by Chris himself or the site mods? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 10:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Community Portal

2010-03-12T05:06:13Z

Hurrrr2: /* Posse commitatus */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

Please consult the archives to make sure your concern hasn't already been posted before:

[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3]]

== Welcome to the future ==

Welcome to the glorious future of MediaWiki 1.15.1! MediaWiki 1.11 was really old and busted.

Here are some of the things people should be aware of:
* This version of MediaWiki uses a new markup parser. It's a ''stricter'' parser that works a little bit differently from the old one. Which incidentally means that if you have broken markup somewhere, it might have worked in previous version, but it doesn't work any more at all. You may see a lot of articles that have broken <center> tags. Make sure they're properly balanced!
* There are a few new features that we might put to good use. One is <nowiki>__HIDDENCAT__</nowiki>. You can use it to hide categories that are purely for ''editors,'' and don't actually have stuff that benefits ''readers''. For example, it's used in {{c|Stubs}} and {{c|Articles needing citations}} now.

I'll probably post more when I get inspired. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 12:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
: Some help needed at {{c|Templates}}. Some frequently used templates had consistently broken markup and have missing </center> tags. They also use <table> tags instead of MediaWiki table tags. Take a look at what I did at, say, [[:Template:Needs Images]] to see how to fix all of these, for the GLORIOUS FUTURE. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 12:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

===<nowiki><center></nowiki>===
I'm pretty sure the (center) thing comes when people put a <nowiki>{{quote}}</nowiki> inside a <nowiki><center></center></nowiki> tag; quote has its own center tags included, so when MediaWiki parses them both you get two open tags and two close tags. One of the open tags, then, is rendered as text. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 01:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*Problem can also be avoided by changing the 'center' tag on [[Template:Quote]] to CSS; I'll look at it later. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:*That's more difficult than I expected... looks like '''<nowiki>{{quote}}</nowiki>''' is going to remain cludgey for the time being, until somebody more patient/learn'd than I takes a crack at it. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 01:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

===Broken refs===
Similar issue: Some articles may use <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags without corresponding <nowiki><references/></nowiki>. Previous version was silent about this, but new version puts a giant big red warning in the end of the articles. If you see it, please add a source section! --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 14:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

==Chris and/New pages==
There's a lot of newfags, which isn't a bad thing but I think some people who decided to get into editing CWCki since we moved to the new server and who really haven't gotten a feel of how we do things around here. For starters, a lot of people want to start making pages which can be alright, but the problem is that they really don't get when a new page is warranted and when it's not. Particularly, it seems like the "Chris and" series is drawing a lot of attention to this regard.

For starters, let's discuss the "Chris and" series of articles. I think I might have actually come up with it, now that I think about it, mimicking how CWCkipedia might have an article like "x and y" to discuss topics that are too in depth for the main subject article. For example, there might be an article called "Thomas Jefferson and slavery" to discuss his views on slavery since it's such a huge topic that can't reasonably fit in the main Thomas Jefferson article. Same deal here - we could in theory mention this shit on the [[Christian Weston Chandler]] article but that would be huge, especially for topics like [[Chris and sex|sex]]. It would be awkward to call something like "Chris and sex" just "sex" since people know what sex is, what they want to know is Chris's relationship to it.

I think the problem is that every single trait of Chris does not need a lengthy discussion unless it's very notable. Do we need a full page discussion that Chris isn't reliable when it can simply be said "Chris is not very reliable"? Likewise, there's a need for a degree of subjectivity - what is reliability? It's not like Chris sets any deadlines to make. Furthermore, not everything has to be "Chris and." As I said elsewhere, pretty much every article on here could be a "Chris and [x]" article. [[HOMOS]] could easily be "Chris and homosexuality." [[JERKS]] could be "Chris and men." [[Women's rights]] could be "Chris and feminism." Point is, not everything has to be "Chris and." For fuck's sake, be original. Think of a better name. For example, "[[Chris and facts]]" could easily be called "The world according to Chris." Unorthodox but more original.

About new pages in general, seriously, not every little thing about Chris deserves a page if it can be incorporated into existing pages. As long as it's mentioned somewhere, it's cool. Srsly.

Feel free to weigh in on this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:I like the Chris and: Series, I really do, but It's really only for things that play major, consistent roles in the bizarre story of Chris-Chan. Chris and writing is a good example. The way Chris writes is just so impossibly fucked up that it deserves more than just a single mention in the main chris article, but calling it just "Writing" is weird and awkward.
:I think some of these new articles could really go far. Chris and Authority seems like it could cover an awful lot, but people really need to draft their articles in their sandboxes or talkpages to show what they're aiming for instead of just making a page with the title and a half-paragraph.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*I have a mind to try a 'Chris and competition' article. Covering not just in regards to how he feels entitled to win all competitions, thats covered in Chris and his ego. I was thinking also about how he views things that he dislikes negatively because he believes it competes with something he does approve of, Such as with the whole 'Aspergers vs Autism' fight that he seems to believe exists. Or his strange idea that Harry Potter sucks for competing with pokemon, even though Harry Potter is a book and movie series and pokemon is a game and anime series. I'm not too sure about whether or not to go ahead with it though. I think it may end up being rather small. Do you think I should go for it, or incorperate it into another article? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:12, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I say go for it. It's one of those weird quirks (of Chris) that we don't really understand because we haven't taken much of alook at it. Maybe start with a thread on /cwc/ to get more ideas/opinions about these things before you start writing. There's also how Chris 'competes' against other boys in his fuck quest, that might already be covered elsewhere, but maybe you could go more in-depth. -[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 19:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

==Asperpedia==
[[User:Clydec|Clyde]] has started Asperpedia, the OFFICIAL and ORIGINAL wiki for [[Fan:Asperchu|Asperchu]], the electric hedgehog Pokemon with Asperger's syndrome. From what I've gathered from Clyde, it's going to be like a cross between CWCki and CWCipedia. As there's many gifted wiki editors here, I encourage all of you to help out there (particularly with uploading all the comic pages of Asperchu onto there).

Ideally, big things will come from this, wink wink stomp stomp nudge nudge. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*I'm such a dumbass, here's the [http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page link]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
**I lol'd--[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 06:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

==Quality control jerkops==
I have just promoted [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] as the CWCki's first Quality Control Jerkop to patrol the CWCki to ensure high quality Bavarian standards for CWCki (i.e. pages don't suck). There will be a 30 day probationary period, ending 07 February 2010 so he will have to prove in that period he can help maintain high quality standards for CWCki.

CWCki strives itself on providing top notch info about Chris and the idea is that these new Jerkops will assist in making sure the CWCki doesn't suck and the information is accurate.

Godspeed to Griffintown and if you have concerns about article quality, be sure to mention it to him. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

:*I would like to thanks Champthon for the great mark of confidence he did to me by giving me the extra powers needed to keep this place clean. If any member of the CWCki community feels the need to discuss any of my decisions here, please leave me a message on my [[User talk:Griffintown|talk page]]. I am ready to listen to any comment that can make the CWCki site a better reference on everything Chris-Related. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

I have also promoted [[User:Dude|Dude]] (formerly [[User:Umad|Umad]]) to Quality Control. Same thing as Griffintown, same probationary period. That's it for Quality Control promotions at the moment and I'll review how they do at the end of their probationary period to see if they remain permanently. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Thank you very much. I have recently been occupying myself with formatting issues and finding homes for [[Special:UnusedFiles|Unused Files]] (thank my meticulous Swiss ancestors), but I will now start being more proactive with page organization and content as well. Please do not hesitate contact me with thoughts, questions, suggestions or critiques! --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 06:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== Fixing internal links pointing to the old site ==

Apparently people used [http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=http%3A%2F%2Fcogsdev.110mb.com%2Fcwcki%2F&namespace=0 tons of internal hard links to the old site]. Most of these are simply attempts to link at "tricky to link" entries, like categories and images. (Hint: You can make a link to a category or image if you prefix the link with a :, like <nowiki>[[:Category:Something|Category of Randomness]]</nowiki>.) The above link lists all such links in main namespace, which is pretty important. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

== Stuff that Chris didn't do ==

[[Chris and racism]] currently has a PROTIP that says that Chris never actually used the expression "darkies". It reminds me: Should we have some sort of list of stuff that's often ''attributed'' to Chris, but never happened in real life? (Some other examples that spring in mind: Chris hasn't used the word "niggos" regularly, and he didn't actually have 100% trophies in Sonichu 2006.) Or should we just have some template like the PROTIP template, like this...
{{Box
|title=<div style="text-align: left;">GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN FUCKING SKULL:</div>
|image=Furyofmywrath.jpg
|img_border=1px solid rgb(170, 170, 255)
|img_width=90
|img_height=90
|border=rgb(170, 170, 255)
|head_bg=rgb(170, 170, 255)
|bg=rgb(255, 255, 255)
|width=450
|color=rgb(0, 0, 0)
|text='''Chris never said or wrote "No darkies", nor has he ever used the word "darkie". That doesn't make him a non-racist, however.'''
}}
Ideas? --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 19:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
*I actually like this a lot. This is a good thing for actual distributions to Chris. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:*The protip thing, that is. It's kinda like a little "Did you know?" thing but should be restricted to common misconceptions about Chris (like the darkies thing). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
I think it needs the word INDIVIDUAL, for some reason. I think it's fine. Chris is a complicated animal and some of the more subtle things, like race relations, are open to misinterpretation. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

This is a most excellent idea. The template is catchy and allow proper info to flow through. I will use it in the future [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

== Unofficial Mailbag 41 project ==

I was originally going to have it so Chris would receive e-mails meant for Alec Benson Leary but instead, I did something more plausible by paying tribute to this [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/huttah! Strong Bad e-mail] by having every e-mail talk about Asperchu. Post e-mails in the same vein [[User:Champthom/Mailbag_41|here]] and I'll post them. '''Only rule is please, don't alter the first four e-mails.''' --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
*P.S. Deadline is like, in 24 hours. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== DPF call? ==

So [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJgbVrFasxk these videos] have gotten some attention and it seems like the real deal. On the one hand, some of the people in the call seem like huge fags. On the other hand, there seems to be some nuggets of truth in it. So, should we make a page for this? Consider it "apocryphal?"? Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
*I can't listen to them right now, but I guess if an EDF idiot calls Chris and records it, it's our burden to transcribe it. Also, why the hell don't we have pages for Kacey Calls 2 and 3?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

== Suggestion: New category ==

Do you guys think that there should be a category for Chris-related media that has appeared publicly? By which I mean things like the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] or the [[McIntire Park]] video that appeared on TV. Basically, anything that's NOT exclusive to the internet. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 22:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
* The two radio shows that featured him could go in that category too, if they had their own page. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 22:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Actually, there was a 3rd radio show on satellite that mentioned him. -[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 19:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
**Got it started. I also added the articles that were printed in Nintendo Power, for good measure. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 23:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Mailbags vs Simple Questions ==

I think Clyde already made a suggestion along these lines weeks ago, but can't we just replace the mailbags with series of simple questions? Most letters in the mailbags either: (A) insult Chris such that he deletes him, or (B) mix easy and hard questions such that Chris answers the easy questions but conveniently ignores the hard ones. If we replaced (or supplemented) the mailbags with series of questions (and more focused ones than what we're sending now), we could actually get Chris to answer tougher questions. Plus, less reading for Chris = a quicker turn-around time for answers = more opportunities for us to interrogate Chris about specific subjects. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 02:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
*Clyde's original intent was to replace the Mailbag with the questions, hence why he wanted to phase out [[CWCki:Operation Mailbag|Operation Mailbag]]. Unfortunately, Mailbag is a popular feature on CWCipedia and it's more or less devolving into a way to troll Chris than to get genuine information from him. Difference approaches to trolling are at play, I'm afraid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Links to articles in heading ==

I think other pages do this, but I know this is particularly the case in [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. I'm not sure if this is good wiki style, as generally a heading shouldn't have a link but rather have a "Main article" link - for instance, the subsection of Sonichu really should have a note that says "Main article: Sonichu" for those who wish to delve into Sonichu. However, we can if we truly want to keep it like it is, but as I've said, let's try and mimic good wiki style. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Name for CWCki users? ==

Dumb thing to talk about, but any idea for a good term to describe CWCki users? Originally, "CWCkipedians" were used but that's confusing since there's now [[CWCipedia]]. "CWCki users" is used in some cases but it's a bit bland. CWCkians? CWCkifags? You people probably can come up with something better than I can. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
:CWCronologists. Christorians.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*I like Christorians. We already use the term "Christory", so it makes sense to use this too. -[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 19:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
*I am sold to the "Christorians" term. So classy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
== Today in Christory ==

You guys have really made a mess of the [[Template:Christory|Christory template]] in January! 20+ red links, I'm ashamed! Ofcourse, I'm partially to blame, but I was travelling and under stress and stuff, whilst all of YOU GUYS were playing with your xBoxes and wanking and doing the shit your kind tends to do. So, anyway, I just created all entries for February, but that doesn't mean you can slack off and ignore this again, you lazy editors! Whenever you find time just make a bunch of entries for march and beyong. Get it into your [[autism|routine]]. It's fun. Love and peace. [[Template:Christory]] :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 01:48, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== 500 intenal servic error. ==

I keep getting these when clicking links. Is this a problem on my end, or is the website having trouble or what?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
: It's the website's fault - sometimes the site is a bit flaky, especially if you hit potentially intensive operations like page history or RecentChanges. Just try again. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 11:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:Getting the same. Just hit [back] and try again. lol, I got one trying to post this. -[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 19:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Suggestion: A Chris Inactivity Chart ==

Similar to the tracker on the front page for the comics, I think it would be nice to have a tracker for the days that Chris seemingly disappears off the face of the earth. Ever since things... escalated on his CWCipedia, he's been quieter than a North Korean dictator after a stroke. It might be nice just to have an official record of how long our glorious leader goes without making a statement to the masses. May I suggest "'''All Quiet on the Weston Front'''"?
-- [[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 08:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*I support this. Its a good idea for a main page feature and its a fairly good pun as well.--[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Interesting idea, but it may be annoying to update it daily to show when Chris isn't inactive those times when he seems to update stuff every day. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Even if I hated this idea, I would support it for the sake of the pun. (And I happen to love the idea.) [[User:Llort|Llort]] 20:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

==Quintin Tarantino==

Would anyone be up for an article comparing Chris to Tarantino? Both are insensitive plagiarist, I think something good could be done here.
*No. Sign your comments--[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 18:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Piping ==

Someone, do me a favor - take [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Piping this] and rework it to make it relevant to CWCki.

Seriously, I am tired of fucking shitty piping. "Lack of female companionship" should not pipe to [[Virginia is for Virgins]]. I would personally pipe it to "virgin with rage" or something like that. There's too much shitty piping going on and it needs to stop. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

* How's [[Help:A Guide to Piping|this]]? [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 02:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

== Special assignment ==

I have a special assignment for the CWCki for those who wish to accept it. Prerequisite is you have a LOT of free time.

AIM me or contact me in #sonichu (details on my [[User:Champthom|user page]]) for more information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Coca-cola ==

Considering how much CWC mentions coca-cola and his whole tangle with the company, should a Coca-Cola page be started? [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 08:15, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
*This isn't the right place to suggest new articles. Also [[CWC Cola]] and [[My Coke Rewards]]. I guess that should cover most relevant shit on sugary kiddie-drinks, so no. :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 03:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

===Announcement===

Since no one has risen to the challenge to be a temporary admin, instead I'll just say that until Tuesday, I'll be traveling and thus unable to monitor the CWCki. If there's some dispute how to do shit, sort it out amongst yourselves. If shit gets serious, then ask [[User:Cogsdev|Cogs]] or [[User:Clydec|Clyde]]. But ideally, I'm sure you're all big boys and girls and can sort things out yourself. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== We should start a forum dedicated to Chris Chan's failings. ==

The CWCiki is awesome, I will admit. However, I have an great idea that if implanted correctly, will make the forum a success.

Someone here should start a forum dedicated completely to all of Chris Chan's failings. We can talk about anything Chris Chan releated and a lot more.

Does anyone agree? I'll start up the forum if so. [[User:Super Smash Bros. Fan|Super Smash Bros. Fan]] 21:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
*How would it be different from [[/cwc/]]? - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 21:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Or [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] (aside from the fact they aren't letting new people in, though MAYBE cogs will let you in if you edit the CWCki, but I doubt it)? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Not only other people are doing it better but any Forums based on Chris-Chan will drag some crowd from ED. As much as I love them, I don't want to see 13 y/o EDtards uploading their crap all over the CWCki. Yes, I am a sad bloke but a forum is not worth the extra effort. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

== Actual Wikipedia Page? ==

While the CWCki is a great source for information on the failure that is Chris, shouldnt we make him more... accessible to a mainstream audience? What im saying is that I believe the mastadonic level of Chris's failure throughout his life is legitamately noteable by the standard of Wikipedia at this point. He could easily be regarded as an "Internet Trolling Victim", and if the article is written from this perspective chances are the Wikiadmins will pass it. Share your thoughts. [[User:Gettanonymous|Gettanonymous]] 17:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
*Some people are gonna be like "WE DON'T WANT NEWBS TROLLING CHRIS" but that's not why I'd say that a Wikipedia article on Chris would be a bad idea. Essentially, based on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Notability|notability guidelines]] on Wikipedia, for someone to be notable, you need for starters significant coverage and reliable secondary sources. To be honest, we're not really reliable since we're pretty biased as fuck, and Chris in the scheme of things isn't really that popular - he's been on maybe one, two big blogs but other than that he's mostly been on ED, random YouTube faggots' pages, etc. There's a lot of bigger Internet celebrities who don't have their own Wikipedia page and it's not the end of the world that they don't have them. Not to mention people regularly try to start a page for Chris and usually get shot down fast and frankly.
:I think CWCki does its best to present Chris to the mainstream better than say, ED. Just because we work to document Chris's fail does not mean we're on some sort of mission though to spread the word or anything like that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
::It probably is too soon. But the harder Chris fails the more the public will start looking at him. Its only a matter of time before making a wikipedia page titled "Chistian Weston Chandler (Serial Rapist)" will be justifiable. [[User:Gettanonymous|Gettanonymous]] 18:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:::This is the problem we have. Websites like ours or Wikipedia are pretty reactive. They are accessed by those seeking info. We are not pushing any messages out. For me, trying to put Chris-Chan up on Wikipedia in the name of accessing a mainstream audience is a moot point. Yes, I am waiting for Chris to produce an "Exhibit A" anytime soon. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 18:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== So Chris has discovered the CWCki (finally) ==

As you can guess, he'll have to pry those pages from my COLD, DEAD HANDS before I consider deleting them. It's not surprising that Chris is targeting those particular pages, though maybe he's being pragmatic in that he knows he won't get the entire thing taken down.

<strike>Expect a video statement from me defending the CWCki and our refusal to comply</strike>. Much is at stake here, people, we shall not submit to Chris. CWCki policy refuses to censor itself (the only exception when there is a clear threat of direct harm as a result of something on the CWCki) and we shall not cave in to Chris's demands.

This is our hour, guys. Chris has discovered the fruits of our labor and we shall not go down without a fight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We will not vanish without a fight! We are going to live on! We are going to survive! Today, we celebrate our CWCkindependance Day! --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*On second thought, I changed my mind about a video. As per [[CWCki:NOTED|"CWCki is not ED"]], we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him. While a CWCki saga would be interesting, I'd rather risk possible "lulz" than CWCki's reputation as a (mostly) reliable and open source of Chris related information. In other words, let's not feed into Chris's ego at the moment by not responding in the positive or affirmative to his threat. If he does respond in some way, well, we're take it from there.
:If one thing comes out of this, I really want to hear what Chris's opinion of the CWCki is. I wonder how far he's looked into the articles and I'm guessing if he's only seen the articles of people personally connected to him, he hasn't delved far. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, I totally know how this will all go down. He's going to send some complaints, which won't work. Then he will register one or more accounts on this wiki and start editing, but of course with his edits we can all determine who he will be. Finally, he will include this website in a future installment of Sonichu, probably using a retarded plot like the survivors of the 4-Cent Garbage building assault have formed a remnant organization called CWCki to use as a hideout, and he and all the mary-sues will come destroy the trolls once and for all. Chris will give himself new powers, Heather Dalley (or the Wallflower) will be gruesomely killed off and mourned for exactly ONE panel, CWCki will fall and Chris will have certain users horribly executed and claim moral victory for himself. After all this, nothing will have changed. --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 09:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Chris already ramble previously about how trolls are good because most of the trolls are just documenting his life and acting like the paparazzi or something? Oh, wait, we hit the limit of his attention span. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We need to find that exact quote, because at exactly midnight on 12 March 2010, that's gonna be the featured quote :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's in [[C.W.C._-_Thank_You_:)]]. Here's a go at it with the relevant portion, let me know what you think: --[[User:Executor32|Executor32]] 14:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|It is good to have my own [[Trolls|trolls]]. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, [[Honest_Content|honest]] information from one, and they may later [[Chris_and_hypocrisy|twist the truth]] for their evil purposes. Just like the paparazzi. And, yet, they still, document the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the [[Ian_Brandon_Anderson|impostors]] from the [[Sammy|real]], [[Asperchu|true]], [[CChanSonichuCWC|honest individual]]. |[[Chris]], on what we do here, 03 [[August 2009]].}}

I was thinking about fucking with him. Delete those pages a few seconds before the deadline and put them back up shortly after midnight. He already hates us, so why not goad him on by exploiting loopholes? Until he comic murders us, we're his main villains. P.S. I'm glad that we were the direct cause of Chris' misfortune and pain. I love seeing him hurt. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*What about "Booby-Trapping" pages? We could link the edit buttons of the said pages to hard-core gay porn. This should do the trick. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**If we do that, which might be a good idea to deter Chris from making edits, we'd need to have a legitimate (i.e. non gay porn) way to edit the pages, in case something needs to be added or changed on those pages. Maybe have a fake advert on the side that will link to the edit page instead. But something that wouldn't interest Chris, so he won't click on it. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 15:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris used paper strips to hide a side of his computer monitor when he uploads on his shitty site CWCipedia so he won't see the porn. I have a better idea; what about a "Pop-Up" window covering the edit page of all the articles? You want to edit? You must close the Phalus-Enhanced window that had just popped on your screen. That would be quite a deterrent for Chris and a minor hassle for us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****And for those of us with a pop-up blocker, it won't be a problem at all. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****I support this. Having gay porn come up every time he tries edit warring would end this quickly. We can expect the CWCipedia forces surender within less than a week of the ads coming up. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*****CWCki is not here for trolling him. Except with the truth. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|As per "CWCki is not ED", we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him.|[[Cogsdev]], just a few paragraphs ago.}}
::::*I'm with cogs all the way on this one. We don't need to shit all over the CWCki in an attempt to piss Chris off. We exist. That's all we need to do.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Actually, I said that but Cogs would be flattered in either case :3. TK said it better than I ever could. For that reason, we shouldn't try to turn CWCki into a trolling weapon. Doing so would turn the CWCki into something it isn't, at least as I see it. Something might go down but the CWCki itself won't be involved, just the persons involved, per say. If CWCki is going to be involved, it will be what we've always done and as TK put, have always done - troll Chris with the truth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You misunderstand. I support the gay porn links for use as a defense mechanism against Chris fucking with the pages. You know he will try with at least a few pages, and even if we don't go with that idea of gay porn links, I think we should do something to stop him fucking shit up. It shouldn't be harder to handle then any of the regular vandals here, but it'd be a good if we could somehow stop it happening in the first place. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Remember his edits to the ED page. He didn't do much except blank it a couple of times, and the CWCki is way too huge for him to significantly damage. He might even give us some gems, remember [[shecameforcwc.jpg]]? We might get something nice like that.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Any edits Chris attempts to make will be A) Pathetic B) Funny or C) Informative. Also, Chris never attempted to alter the Asperpedia to my knowledge, even though you don't need an account to do so. Either way, I don't think we need to take any precautionary steps. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Dont cave in to the basterds wills we shall stand as one--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 22:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* As much as I would have loved stashing defensive porn everywhere, an "Open Door" policy will bring much more material to us. T K is right; looks like our "muse" will delivers us fresh material at our doorsteps this Friday. We better act nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Just leave him to it, document his edits and then revert them. Whatever ensues will be hilarious. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 23:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::** For added hilarity, may I suggest changing the article of the now to the [[Homos]] article? This may provoke Chris into making another attempt to "Sort out fact from fiction" at the best and make him rage at the least.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**Worth a shot. I know its a gamble, but if theres anything we know about Chris, its that he hates da homos, and especially hates being called one. It'd probably get us quite a lot of information. We thought we pretty much had Chris and his ideas of reality all summed up, and then we discover he honestly believes cartoons are real. I remember thinking, 'How the fuck did we not know that by now?' So who knows? Maybe we could get something fresh out of his stance on homos yet. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**He went back and forth constantly during the Asperpedia saga, what with curing them and blowing them up and appoligizing the very day afterwards. I doubt we'll get anything more interesting than him blanking the Homos article and leaving the line "I am STRAIGHT YOU GODDAMN HOMO TROLLS!" on that front. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 01:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**You never know with Chris. Failing that, what about the article on [[Snorlax]]? We could always use more information on her. Or he'll just blank it and replace it with "LEAVE MY MOTHER ALONE" and then we'll put the rule 34 the drunk drawfag made of him and Snorlax on his userpage. It's a good day when the best case scenario is "Chris tells us more information" and the worst case scenario is "Chris becomes angry".--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== Posse commitatus ==

Any able bodied CWCki user who feels they can regularly monitor CWCki for recent changes in the next week or so, please contact me for a special assignment.

Current jerkops, please be on full alert. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be home all day tomorrow and I'll likely be available this weekend. I'll help out as much as I can. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll gladly help. I don't really have anything important to do. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Recently registered but very long time follower of Chris Chan (Back when ED and the sonichu home page was all we had) and lurker around here since the Cwcki's inception. Will also gladly help, I may be unavailable starting tomorrow for 2-3 days but after that I literally have all day every day free for a while. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Wallflower

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Hurrrr2:

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl (Heather, right?) is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about heather that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Wallflower

2010-03-11T02:36:39Z

Hurrrr2: