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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: suggestion for minor edit&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==To do==&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Picture of Bob&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
**Bob looks like fucking Jigsaw. Scary. [[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris's relationship with Bob, in Chris's own words&lt;br /&gt;
*add some background to Bob's history. He goes on about himself in the date audio, and he's a pretty interesting guy, like he saw the first plastic Coke bottles shipped off from the assembly line, and he was in the Signal Corps and all sorts of other interesting stuff. We need some of that in here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:06, 26 March 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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(Quick question - whats the date audio? Thanks!)&lt;br /&gt;
*...the audio of Chris's date with [[Emily]]. As seen available on the [[The Miscreants]] website. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:31, 17 April 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Should I mention he just got sent to the hospital in the health section with congestive heart failure? [[Shawths|Shawths]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Great job!==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, this article is terrific now. I'm surprised how far it's come. Good work to all those involved. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:11, 11 June 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Still need more on video games and raising Chris. The section on Chris should be the biggest in this article. Will wait for others to finish transcribing because I can't make out Bob's quiet voice in church &amp;amp; Emily. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 10:24, 11 June 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bob's birthday ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did everyone think it was Feb. 9th instead of Sept. 4? Does Chris not know when his father's birthday is? [[User:Sauerkraut131|Sauerkraut131]] 04:41, 27 June 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*No, it's just hard to tell from the Family Tree poster since it's in microscopic print. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 27 June 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Radio Station Gig==&lt;br /&gt;
According to some of the recordings via Yahoo Messenger, didn't Bob worked at a radio station at one time? [[User:Decoy Octillery|Decoy Octillery]] 21:01, 5 August 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==i suck==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, first time editor, long time lurker. I called CWC's house today, hoping to talk to him, but I got Bob instead.  Those other people exaggerated about Bob's bravado in their callfail video, Bob isn't much of an opponent if you don't let him get a word in, he just seems to stammer a lot. Of note, he recognized my Texas area code (432) and said he was from Texas, and that he knew some KKK people who he said he would send over to my house if I didn't stop calling. Unfortunately it's lost to time because I can't record from my cellphone and maintain a decent quality. I called him in the morning, when he woke up I honestly thought it was Chris. Anyways, I suck at this shit, I'm gonna just lurk and wtach from now on. I don't have what it takes to be a troll. Thanks for the interesting page, and sorry I don't have any audio to give you guys. [[User:ColossalFail|ColossalFail]] 19:35, 28 November 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hey... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIoS-gPOA0k]&lt;br /&gt;
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My friend sent me this video earlier today. It has to do with someone prank calling Bob to get more info out of him involving his current life. Is there anything in it we could possibly use for this article? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 16:41, 20 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is stuff like this now subject to the new CWCki privacy laws? Or are we good with all that?-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Congestive heart failure==&lt;br /&gt;
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Damn.  We all knew this was coming eventually, but still.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: We haven't confirmed it was actually Chris yet--I'm personally at 60-40 Chris, the writing style seems off(the Random Capitalization is unusual) but his posting pattern makes sense.  Chris only seems to use Twitter when the CWCipedia has dicks on it and I doubt that he's checked recently.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*The Twitter is his, he's written in the [[CWC Blog]] about it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:** I don't see it on the CWCipedia updates.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:***It would explain his lack of presence for the last few days.&lt;br /&gt;
: Huh, I don't see that tweet on [http://twitter.com/CWCSonichu his Twitter account]. Did he delete it, or am I just missing it somehow? --'''[[User:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;L&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[nudes|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:* No, it's there. It starts with &amp;quot;Captain's Log Stardate March 1st&amp;quot;--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:** Oh, now I see it. Thanks! *[[slow-in-the-mind]]* --'''[[User:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;L&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[nudes|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 17:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I don't want to live in a Cwcville without Bob. If he dies, I'll kill myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to kill myself if Bob Chandler dies&lt;br /&gt;
I'm going to kill myself if he makes me cry&lt;br /&gt;
I'll slit my wrists or I'll cut my throat&lt;br /&gt;
but I'll kill myself, I'll kill myself, by bleeding on his doorstep.''&lt;br /&gt;
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:My grandma died due to congestive heart failure. It isn't a pretty sight. -PeaceCeapPea&lt;br /&gt;
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:I just heard the news. Dammit, Bob is awesome, I'm praying he doesn't kick it! PLEASE DON'T DIE, BOB! :'( [[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 06:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to be clear, CHF doesn't necessarily mean heart attack/failure/imminent death.  What it means is that the heart is weakened and is having trouble pumping enough blood to the rest of the body.  A lot of overweight and older people develop CHF and don't kick off immediately because of it, and it is treatable.  So Bob may live to chop down more internets yet. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 07:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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He spent 2 tweets discussing how his dad has a serious health issue, then six talking about himself and Sonichu. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 07:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*I know, right? What the fuck? That's pretty low. I know Chris has [[Mumble 1|implied]] that he doesn't love Bob, but I'd expect more than that. People always joke about Bob dying, but I wouldn't like that at all. He is the only sliver of awesome left in Chris's life. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 11:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*The thing is, people think that without Bob, we'd get more interesting results from Chris. Bob kept Chris from going to Redmond. Bob is more or less the reason why Chris won't travel anywhere for a troll. Anyways, I think the concern is that Bob has a long history of heart problems already and given his age, he's taken quite a beating and it wouldn't be unreasonable to suspect that this might do him in. Not that I pray for the death of Bob, mind you, only that this is the rationale of people focusing on Bob's death and why people aren't exactly optimistic. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*I wouldn't expected anything else from him. What about &amp;quot;I am putting ''Sonichu'' on hold because my father is at the hospital&amp;quot;? That wouldn't have been a novelty. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should all do something nice for Lumberjack. Make his life a little easier. We should call in and wish him good health. How much better will he feel knowing that he is more loved than his internet famous son? He'd perk up right away. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:* He appreciated [[4 September 2009|Vivian's card]], that's probably a good idea. A picnic hamper perhaps? Some kind of gift package with food and/or nice shit. Chris won't go to that trouble; someone should.- [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 16:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*If someone sets up a paypal, I'd chip in 10 bucks.  He's the internet lumberjack, after all.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*I agree, that would be cool. [[User:Lynxr|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;–&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#941EAA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ich bin schwul, '''Lynxr'''. Ich bin schwul.&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;–&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 19:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*I plan on sending flowers by myself in the next few days. Some kind of &amp;quot;Get Well&amp;quot; bouquet. The man deserves it. He went through a lot and, even if he could had done better with Chris, he deserves a break. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I've started a /cwc/ thread on this here: http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/24043.html - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 18:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I really hope Bob pulls through for Chris's sake. I really hate Chris but I know what it's like to lose one's father, and that's not something I'd wish upon anybody else. --[[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 16:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yeah, seriously. I hope Bob gets well soon.--[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 19:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** Same here. Out of the Chandlers, Bob is easily the most likeable.....which isn't exactly that difficult seeing the rest of the Chandlers, but still.. --[[User:Torvalr|Torvalr]] 19:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, all the colossal dicks are gone from the Cwcipedia. A mark of respect? --[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 21:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sadly, it looks like it. Chris do not deserve any respect. CWCipedia should be a ground for Cock-Parades 24/7/365 [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Dude, his dad could be fucking ''dying''. I think it's a nice gesture - that's why I mentioned it.--[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 22:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***I never saw Chris acting with compassion towards someone before, I don't see why we should indulge in Moral-Faggotery because of Bob's issues. As much as I respect the Old Man, He's not the jerk we all love to hate. This is why I strongly believe that the ads must be put back in place. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 23:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Chris's 'stress' probably gets passed onto Bob. When Bob is in stable condition, there's no way Chris will be able to put his needs ahead of his own. He'll be getting all cunty about the trolling that he's receiving and not helping Bob's situaition at all. I say lay off and go with [[User:Edward|Edward's]] idea. Well wishes and get well soon ads for Bob. So what if Chris gets smug. Smug Chris is positive happy Chris, it's the closest he gets to that emotion. We can put up with that while his dad's in hospital, right? - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 00:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Seconded. /Scruffy --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 00:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Chris wouldn't give a fuck if his father died. He hates him. If he hasn't empaphized with anyone else, then why the father he hates so much? He'll fake sadness, pretend he cares, but he'll still consider fucking Patti the worst loss of his life. And going easy on Chris is no help for Bob, that just means that in possibly his last days with his father he'll be all smug about his victory over the gay ads. If anything they should put up a get well message for Bob using the adspace. I'm going to mention that to the Asperpedia crew next time i'm over there. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***Agreed. Look at the Quote of the Now. He mentions that his dad is in the hospital and would be there for a few days, but he had a LOOOONG stressful day. He wants us to feel sorry for him for the day, not his dad. It would be the greatest wake up call when he does pass away.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 23:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****Chris being selfish? that's old news. If bob dies, it's ovbiously he would become chris's new excuse &amp;quot; i can't do &amp;lt;&amp;lt; insert anything&amp;gt;&amp;gt; because my dad died&amp;quot; for a while,  he'll forget about him and continue to be the jerk we know. Id bob dies he will be free from the torments of chris, bob has been trough too many  shit thanks to Chris, bob deserves to finally rest in peace. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 23:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*****Actually, what would happen if Bob died? Presumably the family, not just Bob are living off his pension and social security. Even if they own the house completely, however much Barbra is bringing in plus $450 from Chris' board may not be enough to pay all their costs (bills, food, etc). --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 00:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****** I wouldn't doubt that the accumulative total of both Chris' and Bab's welfare would be enough to sustain them- provided Chris stopped buying junk he never uses and stops eating at McDonald's. But it seems to me from the Twitter alone that Chris doesn't consider this emergency to be significant- it's like he skimmed across the issue as a lead-up to his retarded comic's scheduling, which in turn lead into &amp;quot;Rule 18&amp;quot; (which I can only assume is Chris' mistaken discovery of Rule 34). If he took the situation seriously at all, he'd either be pouring more emotion into it, or be absent altogether. --[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 00:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
******* Well Chris claims to have gotten his pack rat nature from his parents. So there's the possibility that if Bob goes, they'll spend themselves into nothing. --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 01:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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• One thought- has anyone contacted [[Cole]] yet? I'm in Australia or I would myself. I know Chris doesn't gave a flying fuck and [[Snorlax]] almost certainly doesn't either. He should know I think. --Ronichu&lt;br /&gt;
* I think most of the family probably know by now (I would hope so anyway) but Cole has said in the past that he would celebrate when Bob &amp;quot;finally drops&amp;quot;. Unless Cole is willing to make peace I say let him stay in the dark on this one, or leave it to the Chandlers to tell him. This is all too soon, I'm not ready for Bob to die yet... I just hope he dies comfortable, not at home and not surrounded by his family. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 01:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yeah, when bob dies, i hope he doesn't has to see his failure son's face. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 02:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Agreed on letting the Chandlers tell Cole, if for no other reason than he might not believe some random troll from the Internet. --[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 21:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, I really need to ask this- where was it picked up that Bob had a 10% chance of survival? If it was in the linked article, I didn't see it.--[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 09:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I am asking myself the same question; where this came from? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** It doesn't, I think the person who wrote that must have seen the bit which says that it has an annual mortality rate of 10% and misunderstood it. He statistically has a 90% chance of surviving another year (provided he is suffering from the normal progressive form of the disease). I've changed the article to reflect this. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 11:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Alright, awesome- I was just beginning to think if that had been true, then half my extended family is pretty damn lucky.--[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 09:58, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*If Bob does kick it (may he rest in peace if he does), what odds do you give on Chris going to a funny farm in the next 5 years? --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 19:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Unless if the state of Virginia got no cheaper option. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I try to send flowers to Bob but the FTD website ask for a phone number. Anyone got a clue what Chris's phone is? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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He tells us himself in the opening few seconds of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2vGKa-k2Us this video]. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*How about &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Chris' credit card number&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; the hospital we should send them to? --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 19:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris's credit card number is 2984 8579 9562 3765. That number is fake by the way in case anyone missed the joke. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*thanks for the info. I forgot about this video. I rand FTD with a nice card and a Pink Lily Bouquet. Bob will receive them tomorrow.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***Assuming Snorlax doesn't eat them first. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 20:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Do we know that Bob will get them? Knowing Chris, he'll assume that they are for him and make a youtube video thanking his secret admirer for sending him flowers. I hope that you made sure to put down in bold capitals that its for Bob, and even then its only a slim chance that he'll consider the idea that they're not for him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*But pink is such a faggy color. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 20:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*There's a possibility that Chris will hijack the bouquet but let's see it that way; it's bloody pink if he does, we got material to doubt his straightness. Not only Bob's name is on the delivery slip but I also send a &amp;quot;Get Well&amp;quot; card mentioning him, the package couldn't be mistaken. FTD will deliver tomorrow. Let's see what it will bring us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*I sent Bob a bouquet as well. In all honesty, I enjoyed hearing about his experiences and feel bad that he's stuck with a horrible wife and son. The all the man wants is a chance to discuss the world and listen to his records. At the very least, he deserves to know that there are people that like him out there. --[[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] 22:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*What color? --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 00:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*Multi-colored. It's [http://www.teleflora.com/mixed-flowers/bouquet/make-a-wish-167864p.asp?s=t&amp;amp;promotioncode=Shed10&amp;amp;srccode=SH_FR&amp;amp;ci_src=14110944&amp;amp;ci_sku=TFWEB164 this one.] [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] 01:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*If Chris suffered heart failure, I wouldn't send flowers. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 04:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I kinda want Bob to die (Don't look at me like i am a monster) because I want the vicarious thrill of watching 14 Branchland Court implode without his common sense. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 20:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** Me too.  He's pretty much the only person who ever tried to stop a Sweetheart opperation--he could have stopped Julie if Max hadn't been a good liar.  Nothing will set the Snorlax off unless you try to lure Chris somewhere, and even then I remind you that we still got him to defy her and go to Ohio.  Her general logic for any scenario seems to be &amp;quot;If Chris actually gets a girl, I'll believe it when I see her, otherwise it's his own damn fault for being stupid&amp;quot;.  This is Chris's logic, minus the part after the comma.  Oh, and no Bob means less money, and what's going to make you think Chris starts stealing his tugboat payment from her?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*** If you kinda want Bob to die to make trolling Chris easier you're kinda a far more worthless human being than Chris is. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 23:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**** I'll justify myself, then.  I will be sad to see Bob die, and I will be happy to see what happens when he's gone.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***Like I said, I'm no monster, I just wanna see Chris fall apart without Bob's guidance. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 00:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**** If Chris has no-one to defend him or motivate him, it won't be a challenge to troll him anymore. I like Bob, and if I get to his age I intend to spend all day everyday swingin' with the music. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 02:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Well, since Barb is too weighed down by her own rolls to do anything, if Bob dies, there will be shit hitting fans in Chris' home real soon, and I don't mean cat shit.. Either way it's going to be funny considering Chris' warped view on death. --[[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]]&lt;br /&gt;
**** She's not that fat, not yet anyway.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I know everyone has realized this by now, but I don't think Chris understands the severity of it all. On his Twitter, it says that Bob came down with a ''case'' of congestive heart failure. The way he's talking about it, it seems that Chris thinks that this is something Bob can overcome like a sick bug or something. That also explains the lack of concern in his two videos - he actually thinks Bob's gonna be alright in a few days, as if some R&amp;amp;R would do good! He doesn't realize that this may very well be the beginning of the end!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*This is why I pity Bob Chandler right now. He's a man with decades of fair work, a patent on his name and the opportunity to be called the veteran of the most intense war the world never saw. Only for this, he will be a better man than myself. Here's the sad part. On the Internets, he will be remembered as the &amp;quot;Joseph&amp;quot; of the &amp;quot;Fail Messiah&amp;quot;. The very fact that Chris ignore him in what we might call his last hours on Earth is shocking to me. He really don't deserve this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:43, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Point.  Bob's death may come as a total and complete surprise to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*How do we even know Barb would let him know all the details? Wouldn't she consider keeping Chris ignorant to be a small mercy? --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 05:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:**Small mercy? From everything I've heard of her, if she kept the details from Chris it would be because it's easier on her to just not tell him. In all honesty if anything's going to happen with this, it should be trying to get Chris to actually spend time with his father. Remember, the closest he's had to a constant in his life dying is his dog, and Optimus Prime, and in Chris' mind both of those came back. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 06:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I still think we should do something nice for Bob while he's sick. Unlike Chris, Bob is definitely someone I see as with positive qualities along with the negative (which he has plenty of, but don't we all). In light of this, I wanted to have a small hatched engraved with a message &amp;quot;For 'The Internet Lumberjack'. Get well soon! - The Trolls&amp;quot; on the front face and &amp;quot;Keep on swinging!&amp;quot; on the back. I found a place that does engraving along with a hatchet that would be suitable ($100 or so cost all up, probably about the same for postage, not a problem for me since I work), unfortunately I called Australia Post and they said that there were import restrictions on edged weapons into the United States for some reason. Is there anywhere in the US where one could order something similar to the above created and delivered? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:28, 4th of March 2010 (Australian Central Standard Time).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Does Bob even know that he's the Internet Lumberjack? The joke might be totally lost on him. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 10:43, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*The cause was an internet fell on him. --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 08:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*If bob dies, do you think chris will put him in his comic, just like patty?[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Probably, but he'll be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il_Sung Kim Il-Sung] type character, The dead but eternal leader of CWCville. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 20:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*For those who don't know, [http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/ Charlottesville obituaries are here].  I'm not sure if this has been posted yet; correct me if it has.  So far Bob has not shown up. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:17, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*If he dies, I hope the funeral isn't private, because I plan on burying my axe and a broken internet modem with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Guys, please, this is getting out of hand. There's lots of places to discuss stuff for Bob like sending him flowers and shit. But this place is not the place to do it. Please refer to [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|this]]. Talk pages should be reserved for how to improve the article and not for content - it was alright to discuss the validity of the tweets, for instance, but this is getting out of hand. Fuck, you can even arrange things on the Community Portal if you really want to. &lt;br /&gt;
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Next person who posts something not related to improving the Bob Chandler article '''will be banned.''' --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I've added a heading below the ''Health and late life'' heading called ''What about Bob?''. I'm using it to encompass what little we know about the recent heart failure saga, and briefly touch on Chris's extracurricular activities during it. I figure once it's all over with, it will be much easier to delete the heading and contents as a whole, rather than sift through the Bob article and remove things piecemeal. But if it's getting too big, or if you all don't like it, feel free to cut it down in the spirit of Bob. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 06:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bob's past heart attacks==&lt;br /&gt;
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If you check out the transcript for the [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|Emily Date]], you'll see several gaps, one of which is very large. I just reached the point in the audio where the first gap occurs, and it's ''right there'' that Bob starts talking about his history of health problems, most notable of which are his past heart attacks. We seem to have a surplus of Bob fans, so would one (or more) of you like to start filling in that gap (and/or the others)? I'm willing to do it myself, but I'm not the world's fastest typist, and - all kidding aside - I'd like to have all of this information about Bob made available before the man dies. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'm surprised I haven't noticed this before. I'll actually add this to the Improvement of the Now. Be sure to mention this in the [[Transcription Collective]] as well. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*He's definitely gonna die soon, because the fact that he's had four heart attacks and is older than my grandfather by a decade (he was born in 1937) , is a telltale sign that he's gonna meet Billy Mays sometime within the year.&lt;br /&gt;
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*PSN message shows than Bob is okay, according to Chris, at least. Should he die, it'll be a day of mourning, but not for Cole. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 23:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Should we really be checking the Charlottesville obituaries?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought that the Chandlers lived in Ruckersville and not Charlottesville proper. Perhaps someone from the area can inform me of the truth?--[[User:Doomknight|Doomknight]] 08:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, but isn't the hospital in Charlottesville? I'd call them myself but my Boston accent's too thick for them to not raise an eyebrow. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 21:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had assumed that Ruckersville wouldn't have their own obit listing, but I just found out that they do. I'll add that link to the Charlottesville link on Bob's page. It's more of an off chance that he'd be listed anyway. Considering that the only people who would even write an obit would be Barb or Chris, it's doubtful if he'd even get one. But since we've all basically been pissing in the wind regarding Bob for the last week, it's about all we can do. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 06:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is Bob dead..? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm Is Chris still in control of this site?], because &amp;quot;Sonichu is no longer being updated. My father's passing has been too great for me. :( It is like I Lost Patti All Over Again.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The site was last updated on the 31st of March... --[[User:AsperGirl|AsperGirl]] 06:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*It's a troll page. I think someone already saw and mentioned it elsewhere.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* I personally spoke to both Bob and Snorlax about seven hours ago. They are both alive. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:18, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So some people of TV Tropes seem to think Bob's dead. I've looked through a few websites that list obituaries from Ruckersville and Charlottesville and he wasn't listed on any of them. Any conformation as to whether he's alive or not? --'''[[User:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;L&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[nudes|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 23:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*No telling, could be a trolling plot.  I think we'd be warned if Bob was dead.  The simple solution is to call Chris and simply ask him.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** I tried calling him yesterday to ask him about Bob, but I couldn't get a hold of him. I'll try again, even though I know he probably won't pick it up. (How do you guys even manage to talk to him, anyway?) --'''[[User:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;L&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[nudes|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 23:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*There are about 15 more 'Sydney Calls' which are just voicemail messages and the like. Chris is too lazy to answer his phone and his parents are quite sick of all the pranks. Keep trying and you'll eventually get through. I tell you what though, if Chris actually gets a call from a game designer they would not put up with someone being so impossibly unreliable to contact. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Ah, I thought &amp;quot;call until he decides to pick up&amp;quot; would be the answer. I managed to get him on the line once sometime last year, but that was back when I was a CWC newfag, sooooo I froze up and hung up. *fails forever* &lt;br /&gt;
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But yeah, that'd be yet another reason (out of an infinite amount of reasons) why game designers wouldn't touch ''Sonichu'' with a ten-foot pole. --'''[[User:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;L&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[nudes|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 01:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*If so, then a new era has begun.  If not, then we can annoy Chris.  And there's nothing Rocky can do about it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Heh, don't worry about the freezing up thing. Sydney was a huge fail, but she was about 50x more successful than my previous effort, where I got absolutely no response at all, only annoyed him a little, didn't record anything at all, entertained his parents and then nearly dox'd myself due to my tardness. Just to be sure, you're not calling him with your real phone, right? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::** Er.... Yeah, I'm using my cell phone. And for extra fail points, I use Audactiy to try to record my calls. What should I do instead? '''[[User:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;L&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[nudes|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 18:49, 25 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== racist ==&lt;br /&gt;
so has bob ever actually been out-and-out racist or is that just a (probably correct) assumption? just wondering [[User:Woot Rodriguez|Woot Rodriguez]] 15:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Listen boy, you get your black ass down in the gutter and stay there!|Bob, [[Prank_calls#.27Epic_Crazy_Lady.27_calls_Bob|choreographing trolls]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
This quote would suggest Bob thinks of black people in a negative light, referring to the trolls as being black. I'm stereotyping, but it's not uncommon for people from his generation to hold racist views. Him having been raised in Alabama would also suggest that he was exposed to racist views. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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ahahaha, how did i ever miss that article? funny shit, thanks man. although in another video on the page (just reading the transcript here, my speakers are busted so i can't hear how he says it so he could be being sarcastic or dismissive or whatever) he tells a troll to put effort into something constructive like helping haitians. i've known people who said stuff similar to &amp;quot;get your black ass down&amp;quot;  (ok, not really that phrase but you get what i'm saying) and they aren't really racist. but then again i also live in south louisiana so that probably has something to do with the different standards for what constitutes racism or something (down here someone's not really considered racist until they start throwing around the n-word or other slurs or explicitly slander a race/someone because of their race). which, of course, isn't to say that makes saying something like that any less heinous.[[User:Woot Rodriguez|Woot Rodriguez]] 15:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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or maybe i'm just willing to give some people more leeway than they deserve; yeah that's probably it. [[User:Woot Rodriguez|Woot Rodriguez]] 05:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== That picture of Bob and Chris ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Long time lurker, love the site. I was just looking at the picture of Bob and Chris in what appears to be a classroom (0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg) and was noticing the Grade Chart. Am I reading it wrong, or does it seem to award money prizes for different grades, with at least 5$ being awarded even for failure? If I'm not misinterpreting it, does this mean Chris was getting rewarded, no matter how badly he did? [[User:Colonelslime|Colonelslime]] 17:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC) (Edited to add signature, my apologies)&lt;br /&gt;
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* First off, sign your posts, four tildes at the end of your post. To answer your question, it might not mean that, in that he probably wasn't making money. Many teachers have systems with their students to encourage learning. The teacher makes some fake money, the kids take a test, the kids earn money based on their performance. She'll have a thing of toys they can buy with what they make. It was apparently popular back in the 80s and mid 90s, but nowadays kids can get better stuff than that by themselves. There's a slight chance that the kids were actually getting paid, but that would be a pretty bad plan for a teacher to put into motion. If so, it probably would have been for their final, overall grade, but still. Also, there is a talk page for files as well, so if you have anything else post there, alright? [[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 07:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Automatic (Something) is...? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it possibly be he worked on the first automatic switchboard for the area, or possibly the whole reigon? I've read up on these, and it sounds like he worked on the first installation as part of a test run to see how well they would function under standard call input rates and to test how durable they were under stress. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 16:55, 19 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''&amp;gt;Test how durable they were under stress.''' Pity he couldn't do the same with his son.[[User:ProtoAuthor|ProtoAuthor]] 07:36, 11 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Patents ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are two more patents with Bob's name on them I couldn't fit in the Work section because I am about to Crash into Slumber.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.google.com/patents?id=jKU4AAAAEBAJ&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.google.com/patents?id=-DMBAAAAEBAJ&lt;br /&gt;
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==Grand Wizard Bob ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I know that the revelation of his Klan membership came right out of the horse's mouth, Does anyone know if he's really a member, or just bullshitting?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 12:23, 24 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He's not saying he's a member. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 14:05, 24 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He implied he was a member, just read this quote:''''' I’ve seen crosses burning, fella. I've seen 'em. And you don’t wanna see it. '''''&lt;br /&gt;
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* A good few black people have seen cross burnings, I doubt they're members. I'm guessing he was just trying to scare the callers. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 16:29, 24 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is Bob actually part Cherokee? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Or is it just Chris making shit up? - slubub&lt;br /&gt;
:Look at Bob's features and how dark his skin is, and you got the answer. I think it's quite likely he has at least 25% Native American admixture. [[User:Charles|Charles]] 02:59, 29 November 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cancer Call? ==&lt;br /&gt;
anybody got links?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 15:57, 29 March 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Bob has cancer!? By God, the poor fella. My heart goes out to him. Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GGSOyCm2k Here's a link to the call. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:36, 20 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I am unsure about the whole &amp;quot;Cancer&amp;quot; thing. As long as I don't hear a FA or Chris confirming the info, I will assume that Bob is pulling our leg. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:52, 21 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is Bob technically a troll?==&lt;br /&gt;
Bob's joke about Obama appeared in the 4 Cent Garbage building, so shouldn't that make him a troll since he contributed to it?  Maybe we should include this in the article.  --[[User:SonichuIsMyHero|SonichuIsMyHero]] 07:57, 8 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Look up what a troll is. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:08, 8 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==BobWatch==&lt;br /&gt;
I've added a section under What About Bob that's meant to hold more of the bulleted news info, to separate it from the more narrative information. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 14:00, 29 August 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changing tenses in the article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If Bob truly is dead, (which, unfortunately, appears to be the case), then CWCki editors need to change his page to reflect things in the past tense. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 09:35, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'll look into changing tenses and maybe tidying it up a little, in light of what's happened. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:18, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I changed maybe three words to reflect Bob's passing. Since English isn't my first language, hopefully someone can check it! --[[User:Volodya|Volodya]] 10:27, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'll do it. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 10:34, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Done. Feel free to make any changes you see fit. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 10:54, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obituary ==&lt;br /&gt;
* I was reading the obit for Bob and I found this statement, &amp;quot;Instead of flowers, you may make monetary donations to his widow, Barbara Chandler and son, Christian Chandler.&amp;quot; What the heck?? Is this normal? Do people really send money and flowers to people they don't know? And I'm kinda wondering who wrote the obit in the first place. I'm moving towards Chris or Barb because no obit written by the hospital staff would mention the whole &amp;quot;without him we wouldn't have (insert some plastic item here)&amp;quot;. Another question to ponder is this: because Bob is now dead, will Barb and Chris still receive as much money as they did before? What happens when the social security holder dies and that's their only real income (I can't imagine they can live off the tugboat). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 11:39, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
It's normal to ask &amp;quot;Instead of flowers, you may send a donation to (charity)&amp;quot; - asking for cash for yourself is not normal. And it's not  &amp;quot;money and flowers to people they don't know&amp;quot; - if you're an acquaintance who can't make it to the funeral, you send flowers (or a charitable donation - or, presumably, a new 3DS game) and your apologies. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:45, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Well, regarding Bob's pension, it depends on what election he took at the time of retirement. Since Barb has a pension as well, it's possible he chose a Single Life Annuity (meaning that when he dies, the money stops) because she already has money coming in from her pension and typically SLAs provide more each paycheck. If he took a Joint &amp;amp; Survivor Benefit, it's possible Barb (who is probably the beneficiary) will get either 50, 75 or 100% of what Bob was getting from GE's pension trust. Even if Barb is the beneficiary, very few pension plans offer 100% J&amp;amp;S options and on top of that, with her poor health, after the death of a spouse, according to mortality tables, she won't have much time and typically pensions don't have a secondary beneficiary; which is what Chris is. In short, they're probably receiving MUCH less money now. --[[User:reverendverse|ReverendVerse]] 18:07, 10 September 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I added a mention of this. To clarify: it is '''not''' customary to outright ask for money to give to the widow. Obituaries ask for money all the time, but it is usually accompanied with noting that the money is for the funeral (or a charity), and they don't ask for flowers to not be sent. Bob may have been getting a pension from both General Electric and from the U.S. Army. The latter pension is not paid after death, and it is the most generous. Therefore, it is not entirely unthinkable that the Chandler household has had its income cut in half or more.&lt;br /&gt;
:Also, in case it hasn't been mentioned yet, the obituary itself was written by Chris and Barb. --[[User:Riley_Martin|Uhh… '''this is Riley Martin.''']] 22:51, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RIP Video ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone plan on making a RIP video for Bob? Because sadly, I believe we need one for the Video of Now. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:26, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I really don't think we '''need''' one for the video of the now and I don't think there should be a RIP video, it's would be in very poor taste and the announcement of his death on the front page is bad enough.([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 11:36, 10 September 2011 (PDT))&lt;br /&gt;
:: That's exactly what I was thinking. One of us making a video would definitely be poor taste. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:39, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. This isn't about us.[[User:Draygoon|Draygoon]] 17:29, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I do wish there were some way to honor his memory. I personally found Robert Chandler much more interesting than his son. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 17:30, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Maybe after some time passes, we can start thinking about a tribute. A nice, tasteful one, something simple. Right now, it's far, far too soon. [[User:Got2Hands|Got2Hands]] 21:17, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, if we do end up putting up a video, here's a very tasteful, moving one&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyMoams7EMw[[User:Ulron1|Ulron1]] 22:37, 10 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bob's Last Moments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Like with all people, I like to know of certain &amp;quot;last&amp;quot; moments they've had before they pass away. Last words, most recent picture, things of that nature. My request is if somebody could list Bob's last audio appearance, last video appearance, last sighting, last known photograph, and other last known moments. Also, I'm pretty sure there has to be someone near the Ruckersville/Charlottesville area, so if you have the means and the access (and if he is having a burial), if you could take a picture of his headstone sometime later this year. Please do not do anything degrading like charging into his memorial service, camera in hand, snapping pictures like a madman. Robert F. Chandler Jr. was a good man who I really felt for. His memory should live on with all of us and should not be insulted by some thirteen year old who thinks he's being &amp;quot;epic&amp;quot; by trolling Bob in his death. Despite the numerous phone calls and death threats, he was never the victim in all of this. He honestly deserved better treatment when he was still alive. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 02:12, 11 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I could try (the last moment list I mean, I have no way of reaching VA as I live in the Midwest), but I'd like to have other people's input on this before I go ahead doing this. --[[User:MissMeg|All hail the dean!]] 11:16, 18 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dead link ==&lt;br /&gt;
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During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!&lt;br /&gt;
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* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNHIbffirxU&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&lt;br /&gt;
** In [[Bob Chandler]] on 2011-09-20 22:29:50, 404 Not Found&lt;br /&gt;
** In [[Bob Chandler]] on 2011-09-28 07:53:53, 404 Not Found&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:57, 28 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Actually dead&amp;quot; template ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Don't we have a template for when someone on the CWCipedia is actually dead? It would not surprise me if people start to believe that Bob Chandler isn't dead because Chris hasn't said anything. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 09:07, 30 September 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's a category, but he's already there. Didn't see anything else from a quick skim. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 02:27, 4 October 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Uh ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pretty sure Bob died due to the whole &amp;quot;cancer&amp;quot; thing, not heart failure. Does anybody have any basis for claiming it was heart failure other than his past heart problems? --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 01:31, 4 October 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pretty sure &amp;quot;swollen feet&amp;quot; isn't a symptom of cancer. This is anecdotal, but I've always associated swollen feet with vascular problems. If there's no evidence either way, it's probably best to just remove it. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 02:27, 4 October 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== What now? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So... I was looking through some of the emails to make sure links and stuff were still relevant and I came across something in Jackie E-mails 7&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;My car is under my parents' name, and my S.S.I. is linked to my Father's S.S.#, so they do currently have the power to take away one or both from me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
So... if Bob is dead and Chris's S.S.I is linked to a now deceased Bob's S.S.#... what happens to Chris's S.S.I? Will he lose it or have to reapply for it using his own SS#? If so, I think this needs to be mentioned somewhere, maybe in TugBoat, and maybe a little excerpt in the Bob article. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:38, 11 November 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think Chris just didn't apply for his own S.S.I because it was easier to let his parents take care of things like that. But he's certainly able to apply for and is likely to be eligible for S.S.I purely based on his circumstances. I'm unsure why they allowed his original application to be tied to his father's SS#, as it should have been independent. Regardless, if the tale of events that are circulating currently regarding the recent incident with Snyder are true - both him and Barb have access to people like Rocky for advice on how to deal with matters like this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:50, 11 November 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fanart? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are fan videos, but what about fan art? Just an idea. --[[User:MissMeg|Miss Meg]] 14:35, 16 January 2012 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== &amp;quot;Bob and the internet&amp;quot; section ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, I noticed there's a new section here, of Bob and the internet, that then subdivides into &amp;quot;What trolls made him out to be&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;What he actually is&amp;quot;. Now, I'm in no disagreement over the content, but... I have to wonder... did people actually believe Bob was this wonderful human being? I mean, they must have somewhere, if it needed to be added. What demographic believes this? I grew to know about Chris from the CWCKI itself, and I can tell you, I always saw Bob Chandler as an equally horrifying and detestable person, just like Chris, and indeed, the rest of his immediate family. So, I find it hard to believe that Bob ever had this 'holy' moniker or something that him such a paradigm to people. &lt;br /&gt;
In any case, I doubt those same people ever got their information from here. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 17:50, 12 October 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* I honestly don't recall any trolls having such an absurdly positive worldview of Bob, or even saying anything much more positive than &amp;quot;Bob at least attempted to get Chris to do something with his life, but his efforts were doomed from the start.&amp;quot; It seems to me that section was put there just so that someone had a nice strawman they could knock down. As for the other part, yeah the information we have on Bob doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light, but I'm still not sure it's enough to be making any definitive claims about the man he actually was (not least because we don't know anything about his life prior to about 1980 or so). --[[User:HarryHowler|HarryHowler]] ([[User talk:HarryHowler|talk]]) 19:31, 12 October 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Honestly, I was trying to keep from A-logging/straw-manning that section as much as possible, but there's no real way not to with that. Beforehand, that article put Bob in a positive light quite a bit, if not most articles regarding him. The [[Matthew Noble call]] was the only real one that didn't, in the sense, but that's kind of an out-of-the-way article for those frequenting the wiki. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 20:13, 12 October 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Bob's Service and College History ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I added details and links (the NARA database for service records and the Auburn University yearbooks) for Bob's service and college. I also added some information about his qualification for a WWII Victory medal. Feel free to word my entry better. I'll add some info as I get it. Whoops, wanted to add this: Bob did not serve in WWII and did not serve during the Korean Conflict. He served in 1947-1948 with the Korean occupation force building infrastructure below the 38th parallel. He served at a strange time in the military where he was technically a WWII veteran but was not really one. However, Korea at this time was riddled with guerrilla warfare and banditry as the Americans consolidated control. Without solid knowledge for his personal story, I assume he did receive the GI Bill upon his discharge. If anybody cared to, his complete military records are available to the public but you need to contact them through via the mail for a request. I will do it when I have time to obtain his DD-214 (detailed service record). Bob's a vet and he deserves to be remembered.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Bob may not be Chris' real father ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris took a DNA test that shows he has essentially zero non-white DNA. Bob appears swarthy and had typical features of a quarter-Cherokee perosn. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Based on the experiences with his various stepfathers, Cole thinks that Barbara has a &amp;quot;proclivity to isolate herself via scurrilous mates&amp;quot;.&amp;quot; Barb clearly must have cheated on Bob during the marriage and pinned the illegitimate child on Bob. Chris, as stupid and lacking in foresight as he is, is probably unaware of the fact that he unintentionally outed himself as a bastard child by posting his DNA test results on Facebook.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1709107742517031&amp;amp;set=p.1709107742517031&amp;amp;type=3&amp;amp;permPage=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe, but appearance may not always determine your race. This discussion could be taken to Kiwi Farms or the Cwcki Club and also please sign your post, this can be done by pressing &amp;quot;~&amp;quot; four times. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 19:24, 31 March 2018 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== We should rework this paragraph ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. Barbara claimed, in an e-mail to Miyamoto, that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the NES &amp;quot;might not have arrived so soon&amp;quot;,[18] ignoring the fact that the NES was designed and released in Japan in 1983 without the influence of the American electronics.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Simply due to the fact it was completely influenced by American electronics, just look at it's CPU:&lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502#History_and_use&lt;br /&gt;
It's hookups:&lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector#Origin&lt;br /&gt;
And even most of the concepts that resulted in digital computing. It was largely a western affair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry for the tism but I submit we reword that last part.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Been abusy, I willa get back the working ina no time!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible autistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Articles That Deserve My Ample Comeuppance ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles (video game)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Authenticity of Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still learning how to Wiki. I apologize for my many and frequent failers in my efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Songs ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen2 WIP&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Life is quite easy, here as- a millenial&lt;br /&gt;
Paid college and an iPhone to write on, my Tumblr&lt;br /&gt;
Might apologize for slavery, or rewrite history!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Maless (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there whining,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tales of Made up nonsense &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--Peace Outside, IslamicStatePatriot 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible autistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Articles That Deserve My Ample Comeuppance ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles (video game)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Authenticity of Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still learning how to Wiki. I apologize for my many and frequent failers in my efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Songs ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen2 WIP&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Life is quite easy, here as- a millenial&lt;br /&gt;
Paid college and an iPhone to write on, my Tumblr&lt;br /&gt;
Might apologize for slavery, or rewrite history!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Maless (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there whining,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tales of Made up nonsense &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--Peace Outside, IslamicStatePatriot 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible autistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Articles That Deserve My Ample Comeuppance ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles (video game)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Authenticity of Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still learning how to Wiki. I apologize for my many and frequent failers in my efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Songs ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen2 WIP&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Life is quite easy, here as- a millenial&lt;br /&gt;
Paid college and an iPhone to write on, my Tumblr&lt;br /&gt;
Might apologize for slavery, or rewrite history!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Maless (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there whining,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tales of Made up nonsense &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User:ISP</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=201256"/>
		<updated>2016-09-25T06:41:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible autistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Articles That Deserve My Ample Comeuppance ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles (video game)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Authenticity of Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still learning how to Wiki. I apologize for my many and frequent failers in my efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Songs ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen2 WIP&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Life is quite easy, here as- a millenial&lt;br /&gt;
Paid college and an iPhone to write on, my Tumblr&lt;br /&gt;
Might apologize for slavery, or rewrite history!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Maless (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there whining,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tales of Made up nonsense &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=201255</id>
		<title>User:ISP</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=201255"/>
		<updated>2016-09-25T06:40:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible autistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Articles That Deserve My Ample Comeuppance ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles (video game)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Authenticity of Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still learning how to Wiki. I apologize for my many and frequent failers in my efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen2 WIP&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Life is quite easy, here as- a millenial&lt;br /&gt;
Paid college and an iPhone to write on, my Tumblr&lt;br /&gt;
Might apologize for slavery, or rewrite history!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Maless (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there whining,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tales of Made up nonsense &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Darkbind&amp;diff=201244</id>
		<title>User talk:Darkbind</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Darkbind&amp;diff=201244"/>
		<updated>2016-09-25T01:54:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Why do you make so many page redirects?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Real Talk==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I love you --[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 01:54, 25 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Christian_Weston_Chandler%27s_Adult_Chronicles&amp;diff=201240</id>
		<title>Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles</title>
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		<updated>2016-09-25T01:41:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: Link to game page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Honest}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|And I HAVE the idea for the Video Game for myself, if I can swing that with SEGA as well, an epic tale of my tragic [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles|Adult Life]] straight from my tortured [[heart level|heart]] and soul. I will bring the [[CWC Fighter|pain]] to the [[Jerkops]], I will kick [[Mary Lee Walsh]] into her cauldron to burn, as well as the other villians. And I will have support from my [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon|Electric-Hedgehogs]], my [[Barbara|mother]] and [[Bob Chandler|father]], my Closest [[Gal-Pals]] who I've grown to love; [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Anna McLerran]] to name a couple, sparingly in the game. And I will square-off in the TRULY SELF-EPIC Battle between me, and my [[Naitsirhc|Dark Half]]. I plan to have THIS GAME ALONE go Multi-Console between [[Nintendo Wii]], PlayStation 2 and [[PS3|PlayStation 3]] (with downloadable content); screw the [[Hex Bawx|HEX-Box]].|From [[An Important Update]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:SchuComic10P97.jpg|thumb|250px|Probably the most unintentionally accurate depiction of how Chris views real adult life]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AdultChroniclesAd.jpg|thumb|250px|To encourage a developer to pick up the game, Chris made his own ad to decrease production costs]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles''''' is [[Chris]]'s ill-conceived, [[Chris and his Ego|narcissistic]] [[video game]] idea where one plays as Chris trying to fight [[Jerkops]] to find a true [[sweetheart]] and kill [[Mary Lee Walsh]], with [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] as useless, but determined, sidekicks. There is no available information on the genre or mechanics of the game.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Originally, Chris was determined to see Sonichu made into a game, but based on his interactions during [[Miyamoto Saga]] and in ''[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]'', Chris seems more determined to make his own game where it's all about him and his failure to adjust to adult life. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The game is currently awaiting development beyond the front cover and the advertisement, both of which in themselves break innumerable copyrights. Please note that while he wants the game published for [[Sony|PS2]], [[PS3]], and [[Wii]], it should absolutely never be made for the [[HEXBox]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cover ==&lt;br /&gt;
In a bold decision in graphic design, the cover depicts Chris having ''already won'' his battle, staring determinedly out at an empty back yard littered with the broken iconography of his enemies. While most games presumably end in the hero overcoming his obstacles, only daring experiments in literary form (such as [[Wikipedia:Awesome Possum|''Awesome Possum Kicks Doctor Machino's Butt'']], which also sucked, but probably not to this extent) actually establish victory before the start button is pressed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
References made on box art: &lt;br /&gt;
*[[4-cent_garbage.com]] symbol underneath CWC's foot.&lt;br /&gt;
*The cracked helmet of [[Mary Lee Walsh]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Merried Seinor Comic]]'s sword arm from [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 4: Christian Chandler in &amp;quot;McAttack&amp;quot;|Sub-Episode 4]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Jerkhief]]'s delicious wooden badge, referenced on the cover of [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The remains of the purple staff containing [[Count Graduon]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Naitsirhc]]'s blue goggles that he wore before his codpiece-wearing [[homos]]exual makeover .&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Robotnik]] medallion that [[Sonic]] showed [[Sonichu]] in [[Sonichu 1#Episode 5: &amp;quot;Informal Meeting&amp;quot;|Episode 5]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris's [[Gitar of Fail]] (pointing in the wrong direction compared to the strap across his chest).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Son-Chu|Chris's car]] with a [[Vanity Plate of Fail|Sonichu license plate]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris is shown wearing the [[Belt Buckle of Fail]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For a time, the ''Adult Chronicles'' illustration graced a console cover attached to Chris's original [[PS3]]. Chris preserved that cover as a &amp;quot;memento&amp;quot; after [[The MovingFoward videos|destroying the console]], but then transplanted it onto a new (old [[obesity|fat]] model) PS3 that he got with [[Monthly tugboat|your money]] shortly afterwards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]'s response to the game==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ShigerumiyamotoEmail.jpg|650px|center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==(Fanmade) [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles (video game)|CWC Adult Chronicles]]==&lt;br /&gt;
In [[June 2014]], a demo was released of an actual, fan-made adult chronicles game; which in [[December 2014|December]] was upgraded to its alpha stage. The game itself is still in the making, but needless to say, is quite high quality for a flash [[Parody|parody]]; proving, [[Asperchu|yet again]], that even when purposely making something terrible in response to Chris, it can still turn out good, if not better than the [[Sonichu (comic)|original piece]]. The website, featuring trailers, updates, and of course, the game, can be found [http://maplechan22.wix.com/cwcadultchronicles here].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In [[November 2015]], Chris discovered the fangame's existence. Nevertheless, he [[Doxing Jeff/Francine|was not pleased]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:CWConPS3.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:CWConPS2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:CWConWii.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:CWConHEXBAWX.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Cwc_adult_chronicles_-_ps4.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Cwc adult chronicles - xbone.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fan Videos==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles Gameplay Trailer&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|kEYvjaGA2TQ}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 28 August 2012&lt;br /&gt;
| maker          = CWCAdultChronicles&lt;br /&gt;
| Subject        = &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Adult Chronicles 2 teaser 1&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|mvZeOnUSfis}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Stardate       = 30 [[August 2009]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Maker          = dadatsointsoin&lt;br /&gt;
| Subject        = &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Sonichu Games}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Video games created by Chris]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=201234</id>
		<title>User:ISP</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=201234"/>
		<updated>2016-09-24T17:50:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: New song, wip&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible autistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gen2 WIP&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Life is quite easy, here as- a millenial&lt;br /&gt;
Paid college and an iPhone to write on, my Tumblr&lt;br /&gt;
Might apologize for slavery, or rewrite history!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Maless (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there whining,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tales of Made up nonsense &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nu Males (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201175</id>
		<title>Valentines Day Hymn</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201175"/>
		<updated>2016-09-21T15:55:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Correct translation */ minor spelling&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Articleofthenow}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:453-ValentineHymnCollage.JPG|thumb|right|Behold the V-Day Collage of Fail!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn''' is one of [[Chris]]'s earliest poems. He wrote it on Valentine's Day [[2000]] for &amp;quot;[[CWC's Pokésite 2]]&amp;quot;. It's quite obvious he didn't pay much attention in [[English]] or [[music]] class, or he'd probably have known that a [[Wikipedia:Hymn|hymn]] is a song of praise or adoration, usually addressed to a [[Chris and religion|deity]] or [[Megan|prominent person]]; not a poem telling a boring story.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Text==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==='''Valentines Day Hymn'''===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On the day of love and romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids fly around.&lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of cupid hits a man,&lt;br /&gt;
And that man falls head over heels for a pretty gal.&lt;br /&gt;
Cards and candy go hand-to-hand,&lt;br /&gt;
Expressing the thoughts of love put in the poem.&lt;br /&gt;
Kisses are shared and fireworks are blown,&lt;br /&gt;
The only way that could happen is if they kissed on the 4th of July.&lt;br /&gt;
On a [[Dating|date]], the man could not pay the bill,&lt;br /&gt;
So his date slammed her door in his face.&lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink are the hearty colors,&lt;br /&gt;
Because that's how the hearts were originally drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
The man's coat over a puddle,&lt;br /&gt;
The maiden walks,&lt;br /&gt;
Then the man trips and pays the laundry bill.&lt;br /&gt;
Under the moonlight,&lt;br /&gt;
The couples of the world kiss,&lt;br /&gt;
But unfortunately for few,&lt;br /&gt;
They are [[Bob Walks In|interrupted by their parents]].&lt;br /&gt;
Night is right for love,&lt;br /&gt;
Except for the werewolf...&lt;br /&gt;
Whoops!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Random-access humor|Wrong holiday]].&lt;br /&gt;
Happy Valentines Day to all lovers!&lt;br /&gt;
The cupids did a pretty good job,&lt;br /&gt;
Didn't they?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris tried his hand at free-verse with this poem. While some may see this as a bold, modern approach to poem writing, it is more likely that Chris was just too lazy to adhere to any sort of rhyming pattern or meter, instead writing down whatever the hell came out of his head without having to deal with the [[Stress|stress]] of a rigid pattern. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The poem seems to be about a [[Chris|clumsy, broke man]] and his lousy date (note the implication that the girl is [[Women's Rights|shallow and only cares about money]]), but Chris deems it necessary to break up this story with some barely relevant thoughts on love and Valentines Day, making the poem even harder to read than it needs to be. The poem also does a great job in showing Chris's ignorance. He seems to believe that fireworks are only used on Valentines Day and the Fourth of July, he has no idea what the term &amp;quot;hearty&amp;quot; means, and that he thinks a woman would do her laundry on a date with a man. Chris wraps up this steaming pile of failure with a sprinkle of [[Random Access Humor|random access humor]] to ruin any sort of beauty that he lazily tries to create.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps the most remarkable thing about this poem is its nonchalant and cheerful attitude toward dating and romance. After his [[love quest]] began in 2003, Chris was known to complain about the [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]] and called the rest of the human males [[JERKS]]. He would often bemoan his sad and lonely state. At the time this song was written though, Chris was apparently not too hurried to find a sweetheart, and was more than willing to celebrate the love of others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spanish version==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris wrote an alternate version for the Spanish version of the PokeSite, later put up on the [[CWCipedia]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWC_Speaks&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With very minor exceptions (such as the last line, which literally translates to &amp;quot;Yes?&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;Didn't they&amp;quot;?), Chris opts for the literal school of translation, opting to translate word for word without regard to the original rhythm of the poem. Some English professors might argue that this is a sort of fail.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
===Chris's translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el díy de amor y romance, &lt;br /&gt;
Corazónes y cupids volan alrededor. &lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de cupid choca un hombre, &lt;br /&gt;
Y esto hombre está enamorado por la señora bonita. &lt;br /&gt;
Tarjetas de amor y cande son juntos bien,&lt;br /&gt;
Expresan los pensamientos de amor en la poema. &lt;br /&gt;
Los Besos son partes y los fuegos artificales explotan, &lt;br /&gt;
Puede ocurrir solomente si ellos besan en el 4 de Julio. &lt;br /&gt;
En una cita, el hombre no puede pagar la cuenta, &lt;br /&gt;
Tan su novia cerra su puerta en su cara. &lt;br /&gt;
Rojo y Rosado son los colores del día de St. Valentin, &lt;br /&gt;
Porqué son los colores originales de los corazónes. &lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre cubre un charco, &lt;br /&gt;
La doncella camina, &lt;br /&gt;
Que el hombre baja y paga la cuenta para la ropa lavada. &lt;br /&gt;
En el luz de la luna, Las parejas del mundo besan, &lt;br /&gt;
Pero para menos, Tienen in interrupción desde sus padres. &lt;br /&gt;
La noche es bueno para amor, &lt;br /&gt;
Excepto el werewolf... &lt;br /&gt;
¡Hoy! &lt;br /&gt;
Falsa fiesta. &lt;br /&gt;
Feliz día de St. Valentin para todos están enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Los cupids hacen un trabajo bueno, &lt;br /&gt;
Sí? &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Correct translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el día del amor y del romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Vuelan corazones y cupidos.&lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de Cupido le da a un hombre,&lt;br /&gt;
Y éste se enamora perdidamente de una chica bonita.&lt;br /&gt;
Se pasan de mano a mano cartas y dulces&lt;br /&gt;
Que expresan los sentimientos de amor en el poema.&lt;br /&gt;
Se comparten besos y estallan fuegos artificiales;&lt;br /&gt;
Esto sólo pasaría si se besaran el cuatro de julio.&lt;br /&gt;
Durante una cita, el hombre no pudo pagar la cuenta,&lt;br /&gt;
Por lo que la muchacha le cerró la puerta en la cara.&lt;br /&gt;
El rojo y el rosa son los colores del corazón&lt;br /&gt;
Porque así se dibujaron en un principio.&lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre sobre un charco,&lt;br /&gt;
Camina la doncella;&lt;br /&gt;
Luego, el hombre se tropieza y le paga al lavandero.&lt;br /&gt;
Bajo la luz de la luna&lt;br /&gt;
Se besan las parejas del mundo,&lt;br /&gt;
Pero, mal que le pese a algunos,&lt;br /&gt;
Les interrumpen sus padres.&lt;br /&gt;
La noche es adecuada para el amor,&lt;br /&gt;
Menos para el hombre lobo...&lt;br /&gt;
¡Uy!&lt;br /&gt;
Fiesta equivocada.&lt;br /&gt;
¡Feliz día de San Valentín a todos los enamorados!&lt;br /&gt;
Qué buen trabajo hicieron los cupidos,&lt;br /&gt;
¿No es cierto?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chris's Spanish version literally translated back to English==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In day of Romance love and,  &lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids high around. &lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of Cupid hits a man,  &lt;br /&gt;
and this man is enamored by the pretty lady. &lt;br /&gt;
Cards of together love and good locks are,&lt;br /&gt;
Express the thoughts of love in the poem. &lt;br /&gt;
The Kisses are parts and the artificial fires explode,  &lt;br /&gt;
Can happen single if they kiss on the 4th of July. &lt;br /&gt;
In an appointment, the man cannot pay the account,  &lt;br /&gt;
So his fiancèe slamming his door in his face. &lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink they are the colors of the day of St. Valentin,  &lt;br /&gt;
Because they are the original colors of the hearts. &lt;br /&gt;
The shelter of the man covers a pool,  &lt;br /&gt;
doncella walks, &lt;br /&gt;
That the low man and pays the account for the washed clothes. &lt;br /&gt;
On the light of the moon, the pairs of the world kiss,  &lt;br /&gt;
But for less, They have in interruption from its parents. &lt;br /&gt;
The night is good for love,  &lt;br /&gt;
Except werewolf… &lt;br /&gt;
Today! &lt;br /&gt;
False celebration. &lt;br /&gt;
Happy day of St. Valentin for all is enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Cupids makes a work good,  &lt;br /&gt;
Yes?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fan videos==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Dramatic Reading&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|1rN7PtUMMYg}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 28 [[May 2010]]&lt;br /&gt;
| maker          = [http://www.youtube.com/user/manwithoutabody manwithoutabody]&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = | type           = | info           = The second poem read, along with [[Hard Love Quest]] and [[Sonichu's Ode to Rosechu]].   &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Writings}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Love quest}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Poetry]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201174</id>
		<title>Valentines Day Hymn</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201174"/>
		<updated>2016-09-21T15:50:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Text */ formatting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Articleofthenow}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:453-ValentineHymnCollage.JPG|thumb|right|Behold the V-Day Collage of Fail!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn''' is one of [[Chris]]'s earliest poems. He wrote it on Valentine's Day [[2000]] for &amp;quot;[[CWC's Pokésite 2]]&amp;quot;. It's quite obvious he didn't pay much attention in [[English]] or [[music]] class, or he'd probably have known that a [[Wikipedia:Hymn|hymn]] is a song of praise or adoration, usually addressed to a [[Chris and religion|deity]] or [[Megan|prominent person]]; not a poem telling a boring story.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Text==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==='''Valentines Day Hymn'''===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On the day of love and romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids fly around.&lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of cupid hits a man,&lt;br /&gt;
And that man falls head over heels for a pretty gal.&lt;br /&gt;
Cards and candy go hand-to-hand,&lt;br /&gt;
Expressing the thoughts of love put in the poem.&lt;br /&gt;
Kisses are shared and fireworks are blown,&lt;br /&gt;
The only way that could happen is if they kissed on the 4th of July.&lt;br /&gt;
On a [[Dating|date]], the man could not pay the bill,&lt;br /&gt;
So his date slammed her door in his face.&lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink are the hearty colors,&lt;br /&gt;
Because that's how the hearts were originally drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
The man's coat over a puddle,&lt;br /&gt;
The maiden walks,&lt;br /&gt;
Then the man trips and pays the laundry bill.&lt;br /&gt;
Under the moonlight,&lt;br /&gt;
The couples of the world kiss,&lt;br /&gt;
But unfortunately for few,&lt;br /&gt;
They are [[Bob Walks In|interrupted by their parents]].&lt;br /&gt;
Night is right for love,&lt;br /&gt;
Except for the werewolf...&lt;br /&gt;
Whoops!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Random-access humor|Wrong holiday]].&lt;br /&gt;
Happy Valentines Day to all lovers!&lt;br /&gt;
The cupids did a pretty good job,&lt;br /&gt;
Didn't they?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris tried his hand at free-verse with this poem. While some may see this as a bold, modern approach to poem writing, it is more likely that Chris was just too lazy to adhere to any sort of rhyming pattern or meter, instead writing down whatever the hell came out of his head without having to deal with the [[Stress|stress]] of a rigid pattern. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The poem seems to be about a [[Chris|clumsy, broke man]] and his lousy date (note the implication that the girl is [[Women's Rights|shallow and only cares about money]]), but Chris deems it necessary to break up this story with some barely relevant thoughts on love and Valentines Day, making the poem even harder to read than it needs to be. The poem also does a great job in showing Chris's ignorance. He seems to believe that fireworks are only used on Valentines Day and the Fourth of July, he has no idea what the term &amp;quot;hearty&amp;quot; means, and that he thinks a woman would do her laundry on a date with a man. Chris wraps up this steaming pile of failure with a sprinkle of [[Random Access Humor|random access humor]] to ruin any sort of beauty that he lazily tries to create.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps the most remarkable thing about this poem is its nonchalant and cheerful attitude toward dating and romance. After his [[love quest]] began in 2003, Chris was known to complain about the [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]] and called the rest of the human males [[JERKS]]. He would often bemoan his sad and lonely state. At the time this song was written though, Chris was apparently not too hurried to find a sweetheart, and was more than willing to celebrate the love of others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spanish version==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris wrote an alternate version for the Spanish version of the PokeSite, later put up on the [[CWCipedia]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWC_Speaks&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With very minor exceptions (such as the last line, which literally translates to &amp;quot;Yes?&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;Didn't they&amp;quot;?), Chris opts for the literal school of translation, opting to translate word for word without regard to the original rhythm of the poem. Some English professors might argue that this is a sort of fail.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
===Chris's translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el díy de amor y romance, &lt;br /&gt;
Corazónes y cupids volan alrededor. &lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de cupid choca un hombre, &lt;br /&gt;
Y esto hombre está enamorado por la señora bonita. &lt;br /&gt;
Tarjetas de amor y cande son juntos bien,&lt;br /&gt;
Expresan los pensamientos de amor en la poema. &lt;br /&gt;
Los Besos son partes y los fuegos artificales explotan, &lt;br /&gt;
Puede ocurrir solomente si ellos besan en el 4 de Julio. &lt;br /&gt;
En una cita, el hombre no puede pagar la cuenta, &lt;br /&gt;
Tan su novia cerra su puerta en su cara. &lt;br /&gt;
Rojo y Rosado son los colores del día de St. Valentin, &lt;br /&gt;
Porqué son los colores originales de los corazónes. &lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre cubre un charco, &lt;br /&gt;
La doncella camina, &lt;br /&gt;
Que el hombre baja y paga la cuenta para la ropa lavada. &lt;br /&gt;
En el luz de la luna, Las parejas del mundo besan, &lt;br /&gt;
Pero para menos, Tienen in interrupción desde sus padres. &lt;br /&gt;
La noche es bueno para amor, &lt;br /&gt;
Excepto el werewolf... &lt;br /&gt;
¡Hoy! &lt;br /&gt;
Falsa fiesta. &lt;br /&gt;
Feliz día de St. Valentin para todos están enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Los cupids hacen un trabajo bueno, &lt;br /&gt;
Sí? &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===A correct translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el día del amor y del romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Vuelan corazones y cupidos.&lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de Cupido le da a un hombre,&lt;br /&gt;
Y éste se enamora perdidamente de una chica bonita.&lt;br /&gt;
Se pasan de mano a mano cartas y dulces&lt;br /&gt;
Que expresan los sentimientos de amor en el poema.&lt;br /&gt;
Se comparten besos y estallan fuegos artificiales;&lt;br /&gt;
Esto sólo pasaría si se besaran el cuatro de julio.&lt;br /&gt;
Durante una cita, el hombre no pudo pagar la cuenta,&lt;br /&gt;
Por lo que la muchacha le cerró la puerta en la cara.&lt;br /&gt;
El rojo y el rosa son los colores del corazón&lt;br /&gt;
Porque así se dibujaron en un principio.&lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre sobre un charco,&lt;br /&gt;
Camina la doncella;&lt;br /&gt;
Luego, el hombre se tropieza y le paga al lavandero.&lt;br /&gt;
Bajo la luz de la luna&lt;br /&gt;
Se besan las parejas del mundo,&lt;br /&gt;
Pero, mal que le pese a algunos,&lt;br /&gt;
Les interrumpen sus padres.&lt;br /&gt;
La noche es adecuada para el amor,&lt;br /&gt;
Menos para el hombre lobo...&lt;br /&gt;
¡Uy!&lt;br /&gt;
Fiesta equivocada.&lt;br /&gt;
¡Feliz día de San Valentín a todos los enamorados!&lt;br /&gt;
Qué buen trabajo hicieron los cupidos,&lt;br /&gt;
¿No es cierto?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chris's Spanish version literally translated back to English==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In day of Romance love and,  &lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids high around. &lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of Cupid hits a man,  &lt;br /&gt;
and this man is enamored by the pretty lady. &lt;br /&gt;
Cards of together love and good locks are,&lt;br /&gt;
Express the thoughts of love in the poem. &lt;br /&gt;
The Kisses are parts and the artificial fires explode,  &lt;br /&gt;
Can happen single if they kiss on the 4th of July. &lt;br /&gt;
In an appointment, the man cannot pay the account,  &lt;br /&gt;
So his fiancèe slamming his door in his face. &lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink they are the colors of the day of St. Valentin,  &lt;br /&gt;
Because they are the original colors of the hearts. &lt;br /&gt;
The shelter of the man covers a pool,  &lt;br /&gt;
doncella walks, &lt;br /&gt;
That the low man and pays the account for the washed clothes. &lt;br /&gt;
On the light of the moon, the pairs of the world kiss,  &lt;br /&gt;
But for less, They have in interruption from its parents. &lt;br /&gt;
The night is good for love,  &lt;br /&gt;
Except werewolf… &lt;br /&gt;
Today! &lt;br /&gt;
False celebration. &lt;br /&gt;
Happy day of St. Valentin for all is enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Cupids makes a work good,  &lt;br /&gt;
Yes?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fan videos==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Dramatic Reading&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|1rN7PtUMMYg}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 28 [[May 2010]]&lt;br /&gt;
| maker          = [http://www.youtube.com/user/manwithoutabody manwithoutabody]&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = | type           = | info           = The second poem read, along with [[Hard Love Quest]] and [[Sonichu's Ode to Rosechu]].   &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Writings}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Love quest}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Poetry]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201173</id>
		<title>Valentines Day Hymn</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201173"/>
		<updated>2016-09-21T15:48:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Text */ spacing, sorry im a retard who doesnt preview or proofread&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Articleofthenow}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:453-ValentineHymnCollage.JPG|thumb|right|Behold the V-Day Collage of Fail!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn''' is one of [[Chris]]'s earliest poems. He wrote it on Valentine's Day [[2000]] for &amp;quot;[[CWC's Pokésite 2]]&amp;quot;. It's quite obvious he didn't pay much attention in [[English]] or [[music]] class, or he'd probably have known that a [[Wikipedia:Hymn|hymn]] is a song of praise or adoration, usually addressed to a [[Chris and religion|deity]] or [[Megan|prominent person]]; not a poem telling a boring story.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Text==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the day of love and romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids fly around.&lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of cupid hits a man,&lt;br /&gt;
And that man falls head over heels for a pretty gal.&lt;br /&gt;
Cards and candy go hand-to-hand,&lt;br /&gt;
Expressing the thoughts of love put in the poem.&lt;br /&gt;
Kisses are shared and fireworks are blown,&lt;br /&gt;
The only way that could happen is if they kissed on the 4th of July.&lt;br /&gt;
On a [[Dating|date]], the man could not pay the bill,&lt;br /&gt;
So his date slammed her door in his face.&lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink are the hearty colors,&lt;br /&gt;
Because that's how the hearts were originally drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
The man's coat over a puddle,&lt;br /&gt;
The maiden walks,&lt;br /&gt;
Then the man trips and pays the laundry bill.&lt;br /&gt;
Under the moonlight,&lt;br /&gt;
The couples of the world kiss,&lt;br /&gt;
But unfortunately for few,&lt;br /&gt;
They are [[Bob Walks In|interrupted by their parents]].&lt;br /&gt;
Night is right for love,&lt;br /&gt;
Except for the werewolf...&lt;br /&gt;
Whoops!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Random-access humor|Wrong holiday]].&lt;br /&gt;
Happy Valentines Day to all lovers!&lt;br /&gt;
The cupids did a pretty good job,&lt;br /&gt;
Didn't they?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris tried his hand at free-verse with this poem. While some may see this as a bold, modern approach to poem writing, it is more likely that Chris was just too lazy to adhere to any sort of rhyming pattern or meter, instead writing down whatever the hell came out of his head without having to deal with the [[Stress|stress]] of a rigid pattern. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The poem seems to be about a [[Chris|clumsy, broke man]] and his lousy date (note the implication that the girl is [[Women's Rights|shallow and only cares about money]]), but Chris deems it necessary to break up this story with some barely relevant thoughts on love and Valentines Day, making the poem even harder to read than it needs to be. The poem also does a great job in showing Chris's ignorance. He seems to believe that fireworks are only used on Valentines Day and the Fourth of July, he has no idea what the term &amp;quot;hearty&amp;quot; means, and that he thinks a woman would do her laundry on a date with a man. Chris wraps up this steaming pile of failure with a sprinkle of [[Random Access Humor|random access humor]] to ruin any sort of beauty that he lazily tries to create.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps the most remarkable thing about this poem is its nonchalant and cheerful attitude toward dating and romance. After his [[love quest]] began in 2003, Chris was known to complain about the [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]] and called the rest of the human males [[JERKS]]. He would often bemoan his sad and lonely state. At the time this song was written though, Chris was apparently not too hurried to find a sweetheart, and was more than willing to celebrate the love of others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spanish version==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris wrote an alternate version for the Spanish version of the PokeSite, later put up on the [[CWCipedia]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWC_Speaks&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With very minor exceptions (such as the last line, which literally translates to &amp;quot;Yes?&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;Didn't they&amp;quot;?), Chris opts for the literal school of translation, opting to translate word for word without regard to the original rhythm of the poem. Some English professors might argue that this is a sort of fail.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
===Chris's translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el díy de amor y romance, &lt;br /&gt;
Corazónes y cupids volan alrededor. &lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de cupid choca un hombre, &lt;br /&gt;
Y esto hombre está enamorado por la señora bonita. &lt;br /&gt;
Tarjetas de amor y cande son juntos bien,&lt;br /&gt;
Expresan los pensamientos de amor en la poema. &lt;br /&gt;
Los Besos son partes y los fuegos artificales explotan, &lt;br /&gt;
Puede ocurrir solomente si ellos besan en el 4 de Julio. &lt;br /&gt;
En una cita, el hombre no puede pagar la cuenta, &lt;br /&gt;
Tan su novia cerra su puerta en su cara. &lt;br /&gt;
Rojo y Rosado son los colores del día de St. Valentin, &lt;br /&gt;
Porqué son los colores originales de los corazónes. &lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre cubre un charco, &lt;br /&gt;
La doncella camina, &lt;br /&gt;
Que el hombre baja y paga la cuenta para la ropa lavada. &lt;br /&gt;
En el luz de la luna, Las parejas del mundo besan, &lt;br /&gt;
Pero para menos, Tienen in interrupción desde sus padres. &lt;br /&gt;
La noche es bueno para amor, &lt;br /&gt;
Excepto el werewolf... &lt;br /&gt;
¡Hoy! &lt;br /&gt;
Falsa fiesta. &lt;br /&gt;
Feliz día de St. Valentin para todos están enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Los cupids hacen un trabajo bueno, &lt;br /&gt;
Sí? &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===A correct translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el día del amor y del romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Vuelan corazones y cupidos.&lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de Cupido le da a un hombre,&lt;br /&gt;
Y éste se enamora perdidamente de una chica bonita.&lt;br /&gt;
Se pasan de mano a mano cartas y dulces&lt;br /&gt;
Que expresan los sentimientos de amor en el poema.&lt;br /&gt;
Se comparten besos y estallan fuegos artificiales;&lt;br /&gt;
Esto sólo pasaría si se besaran el cuatro de julio.&lt;br /&gt;
Durante una cita, el hombre no pudo pagar la cuenta,&lt;br /&gt;
Por lo que la muchacha le cerró la puerta en la cara.&lt;br /&gt;
El rojo y el rosa son los colores del corazón&lt;br /&gt;
Porque así se dibujaron en un principio.&lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre sobre un charco,&lt;br /&gt;
Camina la doncella;&lt;br /&gt;
Luego, el hombre se tropieza y le paga al lavandero.&lt;br /&gt;
Bajo la luz de la luna&lt;br /&gt;
Se besan las parejas del mundo,&lt;br /&gt;
Pero, mal que le pese a algunos,&lt;br /&gt;
Les interrumpen sus padres.&lt;br /&gt;
La noche es adecuada para el amor,&lt;br /&gt;
Menos para el hombre lobo...&lt;br /&gt;
¡Uy!&lt;br /&gt;
Fiesta equivocada.&lt;br /&gt;
¡Feliz día de San Valentín a todos los enamorados!&lt;br /&gt;
Qué buen trabajo hicieron los cupidos,&lt;br /&gt;
¿No es cierto?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chris's Spanish version literally translated back to English==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In day of Romance love and,  &lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids high around. &lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of Cupid hits a man,  &lt;br /&gt;
and this man is enamored by the pretty lady. &lt;br /&gt;
Cards of together love and good locks are,&lt;br /&gt;
Express the thoughts of love in the poem. &lt;br /&gt;
The Kisses are parts and the artificial fires explode,  &lt;br /&gt;
Can happen single if they kiss on the 4th of July. &lt;br /&gt;
In an appointment, the man cannot pay the account,  &lt;br /&gt;
So his fiancèe slamming his door in his face. &lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink they are the colors of the day of St. Valentin,  &lt;br /&gt;
Because they are the original colors of the hearts. &lt;br /&gt;
The shelter of the man covers a pool,  &lt;br /&gt;
doncella walks, &lt;br /&gt;
That the low man and pays the account for the washed clothes. &lt;br /&gt;
On the light of the moon, the pairs of the world kiss,  &lt;br /&gt;
But for less, They have in interruption from its parents. &lt;br /&gt;
The night is good for love,  &lt;br /&gt;
Except werewolf… &lt;br /&gt;
Today! &lt;br /&gt;
False celebration. &lt;br /&gt;
Happy day of St. Valentin for all is enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Cupids makes a work good,  &lt;br /&gt;
Yes?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fan videos==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Dramatic Reading&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|1rN7PtUMMYg}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 28 [[May 2010]]&lt;br /&gt;
| maker          = [http://www.youtube.com/user/manwithoutabody manwithoutabody]&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = | type           = | info           = The second poem read, along with [[Hard Love Quest]] and [[Sonichu's Ode to Rosechu]].   &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Writings}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Love quest}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Poetry]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201172</id>
		<title>Valentines Day Hymn</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201172"/>
		<updated>2016-09-21T15:47:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Text */ removed date from poem transcript, date is already stated&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Articleofthenow}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:453-ValentineHymnCollage.JPG|thumb|right|Behold the V-Day Collage of Fail!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn''' is one of [[Chris]]'s earliest poems. He wrote it on Valentine's Day [[2000]] for &amp;quot;[[CWC's Pokésite 2]]&amp;quot;. It's quite obvious he didn't pay much attention in [[English]] or [[music]] class, or he'd probably have known that a [[Wikipedia:Hymn|hymn]] is a song of praise or adoration, usually addressed to a [[Chris and religion|deity]] or [[Megan|prominent person]]; not a poem telling a boring story.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Text==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn'''&lt;br /&gt;
On the day of love and romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids fly around.&lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of cupid hits a man,&lt;br /&gt;
And that man falls head over heels for a pretty gal.&lt;br /&gt;
Cards and candy go hand-to-hand,&lt;br /&gt;
Expressing the thoughts of love put in the poem.&lt;br /&gt;
Kisses are shared and fireworks are blown,&lt;br /&gt;
The only way that could happen is if they kissed on the 4th of July.&lt;br /&gt;
On a [[Dating|date]], the man could not pay the bill,&lt;br /&gt;
So his date slammed her door in his face.&lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink are the hearty colors,&lt;br /&gt;
Because that's how the hearts were originally drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
The man's coat over a puddle,&lt;br /&gt;
The maiden walks,&lt;br /&gt;
Then the man trips and pays the laundry bill.&lt;br /&gt;
Under the moonlight,&lt;br /&gt;
The couples of the world kiss,&lt;br /&gt;
But unfortunately for few,&lt;br /&gt;
They are [[Bob Walks In|interrupted by their parents]].&lt;br /&gt;
Night is right for love,&lt;br /&gt;
Except for the werewolf...&lt;br /&gt;
Whoops!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Random-access humor|Wrong holiday]].&lt;br /&gt;
Happy Valentines Day to all lovers!&lt;br /&gt;
The cupids did a pretty good job,&lt;br /&gt;
Didn't they?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris tried his hand at free-verse with this poem. While some may see this as a bold, modern approach to poem writing, it is more likely that Chris was just too lazy to adhere to any sort of rhyming pattern or meter, instead writing down whatever the hell came out of his head without having to deal with the [[Stress|stress]] of a rigid pattern. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The poem seems to be about a [[Chris|clumsy, broke man]] and his lousy date (note the implication that the girl is [[Women's Rights|shallow and only cares about money]]), but Chris deems it necessary to break up this story with some barely relevant thoughts on love and Valentines Day, making the poem even harder to read than it needs to be. The poem also does a great job in showing Chris's ignorance. He seems to believe that fireworks are only used on Valentines Day and the Fourth of July, he has no idea what the term &amp;quot;hearty&amp;quot; means, and that he thinks a woman would do her laundry on a date with a man. Chris wraps up this steaming pile of failure with a sprinkle of [[Random Access Humor|random access humor]] to ruin any sort of beauty that he lazily tries to create.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps the most remarkable thing about this poem is its nonchalant and cheerful attitude toward dating and romance. After his [[love quest]] began in 2003, Chris was known to complain about the [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]] and called the rest of the human males [[JERKS]]. He would often bemoan his sad and lonely state. At the time this song was written though, Chris was apparently not too hurried to find a sweetheart, and was more than willing to celebrate the love of others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spanish version==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris wrote an alternate version for the Spanish version of the PokeSite, later put up on the [[CWCipedia]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWC_Speaks&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With very minor exceptions (such as the last line, which literally translates to &amp;quot;Yes?&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;Didn't they&amp;quot;?), Chris opts for the literal school of translation, opting to translate word for word without regard to the original rhythm of the poem. Some English professors might argue that this is a sort of fail.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
===Chris's translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el díy de amor y romance, &lt;br /&gt;
Corazónes y cupids volan alrededor. &lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de cupid choca un hombre, &lt;br /&gt;
Y esto hombre está enamorado por la señora bonita. &lt;br /&gt;
Tarjetas de amor y cande son juntos bien,&lt;br /&gt;
Expresan los pensamientos de amor en la poema. &lt;br /&gt;
Los Besos son partes y los fuegos artificales explotan, &lt;br /&gt;
Puede ocurrir solomente si ellos besan en el 4 de Julio. &lt;br /&gt;
En una cita, el hombre no puede pagar la cuenta, &lt;br /&gt;
Tan su novia cerra su puerta en su cara. &lt;br /&gt;
Rojo y Rosado son los colores del día de St. Valentin, &lt;br /&gt;
Porqué son los colores originales de los corazónes. &lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre cubre un charco, &lt;br /&gt;
La doncella camina, &lt;br /&gt;
Que el hombre baja y paga la cuenta para la ropa lavada. &lt;br /&gt;
En el luz de la luna, Las parejas del mundo besan, &lt;br /&gt;
Pero para menos, Tienen in interrupción desde sus padres. &lt;br /&gt;
La noche es bueno para amor, &lt;br /&gt;
Excepto el werewolf... &lt;br /&gt;
¡Hoy! &lt;br /&gt;
Falsa fiesta. &lt;br /&gt;
Feliz día de St. Valentin para todos están enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Los cupids hacen un trabajo bueno, &lt;br /&gt;
Sí? &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===A correct translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el día del amor y del romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Vuelan corazones y cupidos.&lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de Cupido le da a un hombre,&lt;br /&gt;
Y éste se enamora perdidamente de una chica bonita.&lt;br /&gt;
Se pasan de mano a mano cartas y dulces&lt;br /&gt;
Que expresan los sentimientos de amor en el poema.&lt;br /&gt;
Se comparten besos y estallan fuegos artificiales;&lt;br /&gt;
Esto sólo pasaría si se besaran el cuatro de julio.&lt;br /&gt;
Durante una cita, el hombre no pudo pagar la cuenta,&lt;br /&gt;
Por lo que la muchacha le cerró la puerta en la cara.&lt;br /&gt;
El rojo y el rosa son los colores del corazón&lt;br /&gt;
Porque así se dibujaron en un principio.&lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre sobre un charco,&lt;br /&gt;
Camina la doncella;&lt;br /&gt;
Luego, el hombre se tropieza y le paga al lavandero.&lt;br /&gt;
Bajo la luz de la luna&lt;br /&gt;
Se besan las parejas del mundo,&lt;br /&gt;
Pero, mal que le pese a algunos,&lt;br /&gt;
Les interrumpen sus padres.&lt;br /&gt;
La noche es adecuada para el amor,&lt;br /&gt;
Menos para el hombre lobo...&lt;br /&gt;
¡Uy!&lt;br /&gt;
Fiesta equivocada.&lt;br /&gt;
¡Feliz día de San Valentín a todos los enamorados!&lt;br /&gt;
Qué buen trabajo hicieron los cupidos,&lt;br /&gt;
¿No es cierto?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chris's Spanish version literally translated back to English==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In day of Romance love and,  &lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids high around. &lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of Cupid hits a man,  &lt;br /&gt;
and this man is enamored by the pretty lady. &lt;br /&gt;
Cards of together love and good locks are,&lt;br /&gt;
Express the thoughts of love in the poem. &lt;br /&gt;
The Kisses are parts and the artificial fires explode,  &lt;br /&gt;
Can happen single if they kiss on the 4th of July. &lt;br /&gt;
In an appointment, the man cannot pay the account,  &lt;br /&gt;
So his fiancèe slamming his door in his face. &lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink they are the colors of the day of St. Valentin,  &lt;br /&gt;
Because they are the original colors of the hearts. &lt;br /&gt;
The shelter of the man covers a pool,  &lt;br /&gt;
doncella walks, &lt;br /&gt;
That the low man and pays the account for the washed clothes. &lt;br /&gt;
On the light of the moon, the pairs of the world kiss,  &lt;br /&gt;
But for less, They have in interruption from its parents. &lt;br /&gt;
The night is good for love,  &lt;br /&gt;
Except werewolf… &lt;br /&gt;
Today! &lt;br /&gt;
False celebration. &lt;br /&gt;
Happy day of St. Valentin for all is enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Cupids makes a work good,  &lt;br /&gt;
Yes?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fan videos==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Dramatic Reading&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|1rN7PtUMMYg}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 28 [[May 2010]]&lt;br /&gt;
| maker          = [http://www.youtube.com/user/manwithoutabody manwithoutabody]&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = | type           = | info           = The second poem read, along with [[Hard Love Quest]] and [[Sonichu's Ode to Rosechu]].   &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Writings}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Love quest}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Poetry]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201171</id>
		<title>Valentines Day Hymn</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Valentines_Day_Hymn&amp;diff=201171"/>
		<updated>2016-09-21T15:44:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Text */ Cleaned up poem, punctuation date placement&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Articleofthenow}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:453-ValentineHymnCollage.JPG|thumb|right|Behold the V-Day Collage of Fail!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn''' is one of [[Chris]]'s earliest poems. He wrote it on Valentine's Day [[2000]] for &amp;quot;[[CWC's Pokésite 2]]&amp;quot;. It's quite obvious he didn't pay much attention in [[English]] or [[music]] class, or he'd probably have known that a [[Wikipedia:Hymn|hymn]] is a song of praise or adoration, usually addressed to a [[Chris and religion|deity]] or [[Megan|prominent person]]; not a poem telling a boring story.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Text==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Valentines Day Hymn'''&lt;br /&gt;
On the day of love and romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids fly around.&lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of cupid hits a man,&lt;br /&gt;
And that man falls head over heels for a pretty gal.&lt;br /&gt;
Cards and candy go hand-to-hand,&lt;br /&gt;
Expressing the thoughts of love put in the poem.&lt;br /&gt;
Kisses are shared and fireworks are blown,&lt;br /&gt;
The only way that could happen is if they kissed on the 4th of July.&lt;br /&gt;
On a [[Dating|date]], the man could not pay the bill,&lt;br /&gt;
So his date slammed her door in his face.&lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink are the hearty colors,&lt;br /&gt;
Because that's how the hearts were originally drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
The man's coat over a puddle,&lt;br /&gt;
The maiden walks,&lt;br /&gt;
Then the man trips and pays the laundry bill.&lt;br /&gt;
Under the moonlight,&lt;br /&gt;
The couples of the world kiss,&lt;br /&gt;
But unfortunately for few,&lt;br /&gt;
They are [[Bob Walks In|interrupted by their parents]].&lt;br /&gt;
Night is right for love,&lt;br /&gt;
Except for the werewolf...&lt;br /&gt;
Whoops!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Random-access humor|Wrong holiday]].&lt;br /&gt;
Happy Valentines Day to all lovers!&lt;br /&gt;
The cupids did a pretty good job,&lt;br /&gt;
Didn't they?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
14/2/2000&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Analysis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris tried his hand at free-verse with this poem. While some may see this as a bold, modern approach to poem writing, it is more likely that Chris was just too lazy to adhere to any sort of rhyming pattern or meter, instead writing down whatever the hell came out of his head without having to deal with the [[Stress|stress]] of a rigid pattern. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The poem seems to be about a [[Chris|clumsy, broke man]] and his lousy date (note the implication that the girl is [[Women's Rights|shallow and only cares about money]]), but Chris deems it necessary to break up this story with some barely relevant thoughts on love and Valentines Day, making the poem even harder to read than it needs to be. The poem also does a great job in showing Chris's ignorance. He seems to believe that fireworks are only used on Valentines Day and the Fourth of July, he has no idea what the term &amp;quot;hearty&amp;quot; means, and that he thinks a woman would do her laundry on a date with a man. Chris wraps up this steaming pile of failure with a sprinkle of [[Random Access Humor|random access humor]] to ruin any sort of beauty that he lazily tries to create.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps the most remarkable thing about this poem is its nonchalant and cheerful attitude toward dating and romance. After his [[love quest]] began in 2003, Chris was known to complain about the [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]] and called the rest of the human males [[JERKS]]. He would often bemoan his sad and lonely state. At the time this song was written though, Chris was apparently not too hurried to find a sweetheart, and was more than willing to celebrate the love of others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spanish version==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris wrote an alternate version for the Spanish version of the PokeSite, later put up on the [[CWCipedia]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWC_Speaks&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With very minor exceptions (such as the last line, which literally translates to &amp;quot;Yes?&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;Didn't they&amp;quot;?), Chris opts for the literal school of translation, opting to translate word for word without regard to the original rhythm of the poem. Some English professors might argue that this is a sort of fail.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris's translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el díy de amor y romance, &lt;br /&gt;
Corazónes y cupids volan alrededor. &lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de cupid choca un hombre, &lt;br /&gt;
Y esto hombre está enamorado por la señora bonita. &lt;br /&gt;
Tarjetas de amor y cande son juntos bien,&lt;br /&gt;
Expresan los pensamientos de amor en la poema. &lt;br /&gt;
Los Besos son partes y los fuegos artificales explotan, &lt;br /&gt;
Puede ocurrir solomente si ellos besan en el 4 de Julio. &lt;br /&gt;
En una cita, el hombre no puede pagar la cuenta, &lt;br /&gt;
Tan su novia cerra su puerta en su cara. &lt;br /&gt;
Rojo y Rosado son los colores del día de St. Valentin, &lt;br /&gt;
Porqué son los colores originales de los corazónes. &lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre cubre un charco, &lt;br /&gt;
La doncella camina, &lt;br /&gt;
Que el hombre baja y paga la cuenta para la ropa lavada. &lt;br /&gt;
En el luz de la luna, Las parejas del mundo besan, &lt;br /&gt;
Pero para menos, Tienen in interrupción desde sus padres. &lt;br /&gt;
La noche es bueno para amor, &lt;br /&gt;
Excepto el werewolf... &lt;br /&gt;
¡Hoy! &lt;br /&gt;
Falsa fiesta. &lt;br /&gt;
Feliz día de St. Valentin para todos están enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Los cupids hacen un trabajo bueno, &lt;br /&gt;
Sí? &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===A correct translation===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
En el día del amor y del romance,&lt;br /&gt;
Vuelan corazones y cupidos.&lt;br /&gt;
La flecha de Cupido le da a un hombre,&lt;br /&gt;
Y éste se enamora perdidamente de una chica bonita.&lt;br /&gt;
Se pasan de mano a mano cartas y dulces&lt;br /&gt;
Que expresan los sentimientos de amor en el poema.&lt;br /&gt;
Se comparten besos y estallan fuegos artificiales;&lt;br /&gt;
Esto sólo pasaría si se besaran el cuatro de julio.&lt;br /&gt;
Durante una cita, el hombre no pudo pagar la cuenta,&lt;br /&gt;
Por lo que la muchacha le cerró la puerta en la cara.&lt;br /&gt;
El rojo y el rosa son los colores del corazón&lt;br /&gt;
Porque así se dibujaron en un principio.&lt;br /&gt;
El abrigo del hombre sobre un charco,&lt;br /&gt;
Camina la doncella;&lt;br /&gt;
Luego, el hombre se tropieza y le paga al lavandero.&lt;br /&gt;
Bajo la luz de la luna&lt;br /&gt;
Se besan las parejas del mundo,&lt;br /&gt;
Pero, mal que le pese a algunos,&lt;br /&gt;
Les interrumpen sus padres.&lt;br /&gt;
La noche es adecuada para el amor,&lt;br /&gt;
Menos para el hombre lobo...&lt;br /&gt;
¡Uy!&lt;br /&gt;
Fiesta equivocada.&lt;br /&gt;
¡Feliz día de San Valentín a todos los enamorados!&lt;br /&gt;
Qué buen trabajo hicieron los cupidos,&lt;br /&gt;
¿No es cierto?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chris's Spanish version literally translated back to English==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In day of Romance love and,  &lt;br /&gt;
Hearts and cupids high around. &lt;br /&gt;
The arrow of Cupid hits a man,  &lt;br /&gt;
and this man is enamored by the pretty lady. &lt;br /&gt;
Cards of together love and good locks are,&lt;br /&gt;
Express the thoughts of love in the poem. &lt;br /&gt;
The Kisses are parts and the artificial fires explode,  &lt;br /&gt;
Can happen single if they kiss on the 4th of July. &lt;br /&gt;
In an appointment, the man cannot pay the account,  &lt;br /&gt;
So his fiancèe slamming his door in his face. &lt;br /&gt;
Red and Pink they are the colors of the day of St. Valentin,  &lt;br /&gt;
Because they are the original colors of the hearts. &lt;br /&gt;
The shelter of the man covers a pool,  &lt;br /&gt;
doncella walks, &lt;br /&gt;
That the low man and pays the account for the washed clothes. &lt;br /&gt;
On the light of the moon, the pairs of the world kiss,  &lt;br /&gt;
But for less, They have in interruption from its parents. &lt;br /&gt;
The night is good for love,  &lt;br /&gt;
Except werewolf… &lt;br /&gt;
Today! &lt;br /&gt;
False celebration. &lt;br /&gt;
Happy day of St. Valentin for all is enamoros! &lt;br /&gt;
Cupids makes a work good,  &lt;br /&gt;
Yes?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fan videos==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Dramatic Reading&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|1rN7PtUMMYg}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 28 [[May 2010]]&lt;br /&gt;
| maker          = [http://www.youtube.com/user/manwithoutabody manwithoutabody]&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = | type           = | info           = The second poem read, along with [[Hard Love Quest]] and [[Sonichu's Ode to Rosechu]].   &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Writings}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Love quest}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Poetry]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Announcement_04/16/2016&amp;diff=201119</id>
		<title>Announcement 04/16/2016</title>
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		<updated>2016-09-19T18:46:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Video */ More details to infobox&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Chrisautismmeme.jpg|thumb|&amp;quot;Autism is definitely that thing that makes... the brain shut off.&amp;quot; -Christine]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Announcement 04/16/2016''' is a video [[Chris]] streamed on April 16, 2016 in which he &amp;quot;launches&amp;quot; Sonichu Entertainment of America, a business scheme he concocted where he would &amp;quot;appoint&amp;quot; someone to help him make [[Sonichu]] merchandise, chiefly [[amiibo]]. Although this will not amount to anything whatsoever, Chris attempting to legitimise his hocking of poorly disguised [[Nintendo]] products online as a business is a step towards rousing the ire of the companies whose intellectual property he is blatantly plagiarising. One hopes this goes unnoticed.&lt;br /&gt;
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The video starts out ostensibly explaining the project, with Chris giving inconsistent numbers for how many employees he wants (which continues throughout the video), and very unsubtly implying he only wants female applicants. The reason for this latter point becomes obvious before long, as with the inevitability of the sun rising at dawn Chris begins to mention [[Lesbian Sleepover Party Announcement.|slumber parties]] for his employees, and the &amp;quot;possibility&amp;quot; of a romantic relationship with Chris. He goes on to try to talk up the position by promising to impart his &amp;quot;master[ful]&amp;quot; craftsmanship skills in making ugly crap out of Crayola. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This brief topical detour is amended quickly, and Chris describes the next position; a &amp;quot;romantic co-ordinator&amp;quot; whose job it will be to essentially manage his (as yet non-existent) dating life, including keeping him informed about &amp;quot;lesbian sexual positions&amp;quot;. Chris attempts to qualify this blatant solicitation by claiming his (as yet unmentioned) &amp;quot;associate&amp;quot; wrote it, presumably the same one involved in [[Nerdy Q&amp;amp;A]]. The associate remains anonymous, but given their nebulous characteristics, such as their fixation on finding lesbian sexual partners for Chris at all costs, their identity is simply impossible to determine. Chris goes on to opine that his romantic co-ordinator should be able to act as a bodyguard at public events using &amp;quot;female-oriented&amp;quot; martial arts, with the pretense of his employees being either sex completely dead at this point. He tells interested parties to submit their credentials for review, then orders the masses to make a meme about the effects of autism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quotebox|Submit resumes and uploaded video responses to anightinchristine@gmail.com.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the Official YouTube channel of the one and only creator and author of the Sonichu and Rosechu series, Christine Weston Chandler (AKA Christian, Christopher, Chris Chan, Ricardo); me. Links to my personal Facebook and Twitter pages, as well as my stores of Sonichu and Rosechu, and self, merchandise are available for purchase. Among which, more items are to come in the future, so stay tuned for the updates when I make them personally.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Video==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/video&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = Announcement 04/16/2016&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|HvlxLfyGOws}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 16 [[April 2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = {{Autism|text}}&lt;br /&gt;
| style          = {{Reason|text}} &lt;br /&gt;
| saga           = {{Financhu Crisis|text}}&lt;br /&gt;
| shirt          = Striped shirt with blue sweater vest&lt;br /&gt;
| previous       = [[Please, Donate‎‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next           = [[Donation Request]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
Chandler. Reporting live once again, I have an important announcement today. [''breathes in''] Due to the recent growth in sales, I'm- ah- I'm no longer able to fully sustain fulfilling Sonichu orders on my own. But I am still very dedicated on fulfilling everybody that's gotten in so far. As I've yet to fulfill. And as for, uh, books. Um, yeah. I've just been having difficulty gettin' them in, so be patient, be- I will have the books come out, the book orders fulfilled very soon, I promise. Anyway so, yeah. With the recent additions to my workload I figured I have been spreading myself too thin, and the stresses of life - it really does bother me. It gives me GREAT pleasure to announce the launch of [[Sonichu Entertainment of America]]! [[Chris and the industry|A pre-IPO global entertainment and media company]]. Sonichu Entertainment of America is excited to launch a brand new store on [[Zazzle]], selling fun for the whole family! Sonichu products like t-shirts, hats, and mugs and many other fine products. Look out for many fun and exciting products in the future too. And given the [[Chris and English|expension]], I will be hiring a team of talented profes- professionals to make this vision a reality! While I still swerve- still serve as the sole owner, creator, and creative director of the Sonichu world and characters, this will allow me to focus on my transition- my female lesbian soul into an all-natural female woman, which is already added an... incher- inch to my bust size in just two weeks. Thinking of what- and among other details I'd really b- like to- this will also allow me to focus more on the drawing and w- and writing of [[Sonichu (comic)|my book pages]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Think you have what it takes? It's no easy task to s- step away from making Sonichu kit--merch--and the, uh figures, and medallions, personally. No easy task for me to do that. The only way I can do this is for trusted employees who are, like me, and who I personally would identify with to take this on, this important next step. The ideal person- woman- pref- women or man. The ideal person for the job should, well, remind me of myself. She sh- he or she should, at minimum, love and adore the adventures of Sonichu and Rosechu, have experience working with [[Chris and art|arts and crafts]], [[Honor roll|beyond eighth grade leading le- reading level]], or higher, and a lot of employees who, could be like me, mmm, but not necessarily in totality, heh. Definitely women ag- amongst [''inaudible'']. I am an equal opportunity type employer, or I would be anyw- I am I am. And also be supportive of, uh, the LGBT VHS lesbian, gay, bi, transgender, virgin, hermaphrodite, snowFLAKE community. I just learned a few new terms from readin' this. And since I am truly woman at heart, Sonichu of America should be recognized as and [https://www.sba.gov/contracting/government-contracting-programs/8a-business-development-program 8-A, woman owned, small business].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let's talk about benefits! Emplo- hired employees will receive twenty five percent profit on all sales, exclusive access to, me, Christine Weston Chandler, and uh, and, talks with, uh, collaboration and, uh, on how to make the figures among which, and so forth. Access to private company promotions at gaming conventions, conferences, and enkloyee- employee slumber parties. S- to be determined among which. And should things work out between us and we have shared interests and passions, opportunities for romantic encounters with Christine Weston Chandler, but only if we built it from the ground up. Now let's talk more about the open position. Hedgehog- [''inaudible''] hedgehog fans. You will learn from the master herself, Christine Chandler, myself. Learn the secret art of the figure assembly from multiple figures among which. Give birth to some of my favorite creations, as well as work to produce other merchandise that I choose to create a prototype for- here on. Animators, video production assistance. You will be needed to work  other than creative- d-direction of- and vision of- famous creator, myself, Christine Chandler. You will be tasked with producing an anime cartoon or CGI TV show starring Sonichu, which I personally would have total creative control over- would personally voice as myself and Sonichu therein. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Romantic coordinator- in charge of making sure I find a [[sweetheart]]. You will navigate the topsy-turvy world of modern dating. This position is very important, as I am quite a busy businesswoman, who... well I do ten- I do like to socialize, but it's not like I don't make time to, it's just, I have, I'm busy, and the [[autism]] kills my brain speed, mm. [''humming''] Ah, you would also be responsible for developing a course, or trying to help me compete in the lesbian dating marketplace. Including but not ah- limited to, lesbian attraction, dating education, [''pauses''] and lesbian sexual positions [''inaudible'']. My associate wrote this for me. I mean she's doing- she's done a fabulous job, she's a great writer. And also, by gosh, preferably fit, in shape, female badasses, [[Wikipedia:La Femme Nikita|la femme nikitas]]. As puppet, figure, often maligned- mal ig- mul ig nayed- huh. Mah lign- yeah, ma-lied. By some of- internet's most vicious trolls, you shall be escorting me around various public events, inf- information on which self defense training, you know, are requested. Mm, karate, cuck-fu, vaj-won-do, rape aggression defense, and other female-oriented martial arts, et cetera. [''fumbles the papers''] Ehh, last page, I promise, uh.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are ready to make history and join this great opportunity, make a YouTube video, or summit- submit your résumé to anightinchristine@gmail.com, which that will be below this video, after it's fully uploaded, that email address. Sonichu and I have had many adventures over the last SIXteen years, and many ups and downs, with distresses and difficulties in life. But, together! Together, let's make Sonichu and Rosechu great again! [''smiles'']  And that's the big announcement! Thank you very much. [''picks up iPhone'']&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And also I'll leave y'all with one final, bit of, uh, thought that I came up with. Hmm, in regards to autism, pretty much, and how I feel about it. I have found recently- I have found further that autism is definitely that thing that makes [''pauses''] the brain shut off. Hmm, I've mentioned that before, but. Ah- here- you can quote me on this, make this a meme, for the image of the- autism jigsaw puzzle right in the middle and do the, uh, letters up bove, and over it, in that font, I quote, &amp;quot;Autism is a bulky, one hundred fifty plus gigabyte virus that takes bytes to terabytes out of the two point five million gigabytes in our biological computers- brains. And slow downs our processors, very badly. [''puts down iPhone, picks up PS4 controller''] Y'all have a good, safe day. Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fan videos==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/Fanvideo&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = CWCville Business News&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|3ff5qjA60aQ}}&lt;br /&gt;
| maker          = [https://www.youtube.com/user/MycalFelps MycalFelps]&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 17 [[April 2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Chris-chan videos, 2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Inventions&amp;diff=201088</id>
		<title>Talk:Inventions</title>
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		<updated>2016-09-18T06:25:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: Comment on discussion of deletion&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==To do==&lt;br /&gt;
*edit and enlarge the list of &amp;quot;accomPLISHments of the Renaissance man&amp;quot; in the 1st paragraph;&lt;br /&gt;
*add a list of other &amp;quot;inventions&amp;quot; of Chris;&lt;br /&gt;
*add a more comprehensive list of &amp;quot;See also&amp;quot; links;&lt;br /&gt;
*correct my awful English (sorry, it's not my first language). [[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 11:27, 20 November 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Initially, I thought that this really doesn't deserve it's own article but I think it can be pulled off and really says something about Chris's narcissism. I really think something could be said that instead of being humble and admitting that he's done stuff but not invent anything, Chris goes to great lengths to say he's &amp;quot;invented&amp;quot; things like a Lego box to hold his cards, on top of Sonichu and shit. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:24, 21 November 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm going to say this at the risk of being tarred and feathered, but the Lego box for cards n'such is marginally clever. It's actually a practical solution to a problem (hauling his Pokemon card game shit), using what was available to him. I am not saying that it's an 'invention' by any stretch of the imagination. --[[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 00:11, 1 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article really sucks. There isn't enough material out there on inventions relating to Chris. Unless someone has a good reason otherwise, it should be deleted. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 23:09, 9 October 2012 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am 100% in disagreement on that. I loved this page. This needs to be kept, as Chris himself has described these stupid things as literal &amp;quot;inventions&amp;quot;, so it's just further proof of his own naivete and ego. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 17:05, 12 July 2013 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I agree. We should keep it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 08:08, 13 July 2013 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I suggest this article should be improved. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 02:45, 14 July 2013 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think something could be cobbled together here. No reason to delete.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 06:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Chris_and_money&amp;diff=201032</id>
		<title>Chris and money</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Chris_and_money&amp;diff=201032"/>
		<updated>2016-09-16T16:40:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* In the comic */ spelling fix&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Articleofthenow}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cwcshutup.png|thumb|Chris's response to literally any commercial.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|He's not good at math when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Autism|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==&lt;br /&gt;
For the vast majority of Chris's &amp;quot;adult&amp;quot; life, his only source of income has been the &amp;quot;[[tugboat]]&amp;quot; that he receives from the U.S. federal government every month. In 2009, this payout was $809 a month, placing his annual income at $9,708. Chris's parents originally took $450 to pay for room and board;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; this payment was later increased to $565, and then to $580, after Bob paid off Chris's enormous credit card debt.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#8 December]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Jackie Chat 8]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; How much he gets to keep these days isn't known.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. Yet with my impuslive [sic] shoppiness [sic] (mostly controable [sic]), I end up spending my side-money after I get it.|Chris, [[Chris and His Ego|completely deluded and taking pride in being a lazy bastard]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Miyamoto Saga]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Chris and impulse spending===&lt;br /&gt;
It's obvious that Chris has no grasp on the real value of money, since he actively wastes as much of his monthly tugboat as possible on things like [[The Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[List of Chris's video games|video games]], [[alcohol]], [[Kaka Makeup Basics|make-up]], [[Lego|toys]], [[Mia Hamm|prostitutes]], and weekly lottery tickets&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Jackie E-mails 12]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Also, in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', while legislating as mayor of [[CWCville]], he equated 10 years in prison to a US$1,500 fine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris Chan Q&amp;amp;A 27 October 2008]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also equated fifty hours of [[Wikipedia:Community service|community service]] to $500 (for any [[sex]]ual violations).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; His [[PlayStation Network]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' single [[PlayStation 3]] game that he's ever purchased, and even for ''games he doesn't own'', and he also further promoted his [[Chris and brand loyalty|Sony fanboyism]] by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely costs about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris bought his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores. Usually, children are taught the value of money at a very young age--not in Chris's case, apparently.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris's parental enabling===&lt;br /&gt;
Bob encouraged his son to remain unemployed, since he believed that Chris would earn more money from his monthly tugboat than he would have from getting a job. However, this assumption was and is inaccurate. Minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25 an hour. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.&lt;br /&gt;
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A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else) by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about &amp;quot;$6 a day for small things&amp;quot;, buying him [[List of restaurants|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Target|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[autism|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris's beliefs===&lt;br /&gt;
Chris believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless junk, he is aiding the economy and paying for other people's tugboats.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a [[Honor roll|damningly moronic statement]], since sales tax goes to the state government and these &amp;quot;tugboats&amp;quot; are paid with ''federal'' payroll tax. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Chris and his Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond. His mother has served as a bad influence in both regards, as she would frequently shop at Goodwill and compulsively hoard the purchases, which both wasted money and helped turn their house into a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire hazard]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Losing the tugboat?===&lt;br /&gt;
With the possibility that he might have ended up in jail over more recently acccumulated debt, Chris's bad spending habits would have come back to haunt him. In jail, he wouldn't be able to collect his monthly tugboat, and if a full year passed without him collecting his checks, he would have to reapply for his welfare, something that would be a bit more difficult under the Obama administration, which doesn't look too kindly on social security due to the stress it causes to the overall economy,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us/politics/financial-outlook-dims-for-social-security.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and has even started measures to cut them down altogether.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-winds-down-longer-benefits-152809517.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That, combined with the costs associated with court appearances as well as the fact that the last surviving breadwinner, Barbara, may also land in jail, would result in Chris being placed in very dire circumstances, something which [[Kacey|several]] [[Clyde Cash|trolls]] [[Kacey Call 1.5|have]] [[Mumble 4|tried]] [[PlayStation Vita|and failed]] to warn him about. Fortunately for him, he wasn't sentenced to jail, but the fact that he openly stated during his trial that his mother would pay his court fees is telling of both [[White_knight#Autism_does_not_excuse_a_terrible_person|his character]] and his financial situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, it seems that even this has not given Chris pause, as he got himself into legal trouble [[26 December 2014|again]] and even got sent to jail for a brief time until he was quickly bailed out. Since he is both a repeat offender and financially drained after his last court hearing, it seems very unlikely that Chris will get off with a slap on the wrist this time, which means that he is once again in danger of losing his tugboat.&lt;br /&gt;
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===In recent years===&lt;br /&gt;
It is worth noting that despite all of the circumstances (and expenses) described above, Chris is still wasting money on video games, as evidenced by his playing of ''Rock Band Blitz'' on the PSN, which was released in August 2012, pretty much cementing that even when faced with the consequences of bad spending habits, Chris will learn absolutely nothing. He has also spent gigantic amounts of money on Legos, despite the dire straits his family's finances are in since the destruction of 14BC.&lt;br /&gt;
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In September [[2013]], Chris complained about he and his mom going through &amp;quot;emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By&amp;quot;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Facebook]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; making it clear that the family income had dipped since Bob's passing. However, these supposedly lean times were apparently not enough to motivate Chris to get a job, or even to stop buying games, as evidenced by him racking up over $1000 in game purchases over that time period.&lt;br /&gt;
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On [[10 January 2014]], 14 Branchland Court burnt down. This would undoubtedly place the Chandlers in grim circumstances, due to the costs of rebuilding the home and replacing what was lost. Many, concerned about Chris due to his wasteful spending habits, hoped that this would be the moment in Chris's life where he finally woke up and realized the importance of saving when things like this happen. Unfortunately, not even ''this'' has broken Chris's thick skull--he apparently purchased ''The Lego Movie Video Game'' for his PS3 in February ''(however, it should be noted that due to a huge inflow of troll remorse, it's entirely possible that the game was a donation....or at least it was until it was [[March 2014 Facebook Posts#Rumour|confirmed that he did indeed buy it himself]].)'' At this point, only time will tell.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the months that followed, Chris has resorted to begging online for money, placing extra emphasis on ''&amp;quot;My mother and I really need the money,&amp;quot;'' despite dropping more than '''$5,000''' on expensive [[Lego]] sets to feed his worsening addiction. One would think that Chris would have wised up to the fact that his wanton spending and lack of gainful employment are contributing to his woes, but one glance at his [[May 2014 Facebook Posts]] could easily tell you that he's seeing his situation as an avenue to get stuff from people, the most ridiculous of which being a &amp;quot;$300 Sea Cow&amp;quot; on his wish list, which would not benefit anybody but himself in the slightest. He has also attempted to sell [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|an original art piece of his]] on eBay; logical, though sorely [[Chris and art|misguided]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In January 2015, it was [[CWCki Forums|leaked]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, racking up '''585''' transactions'' in the last 4.5 years&amp;lt;reF&amp;gt;[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/2015-jan-12-nintendo-employee-details-chriss-recent-video-game-purchases.7050/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a list which includes useless shovelware, hoards of 1st party Nintendo software, Virtual Console games and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he doesn't even like]]. 276 of these purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (buying '''4''' DSs and DSis), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind 39% of purchases Chris has on his account are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high number. This information comes on the heels of Chris begging people for money to fix his mother's cavities, as well as the financial worries that his trials will undoubtedly cause.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[May 2016]], Chris displayed a level of financial ignorance that shatters any hope of him ever becoming competent with money. Days after [[Please, Donate|begging for donations]] to assist his ailing household, he announced that he would be starting [[Sonichu Entertainment of America|his own business]], with the declaration that each employee's salary would be ''25% of the profit.'' Naturally, Chris completely fails to realize that under these conditions, he would have no money at all if he had four or more employees. However, that's just the tip of the iceberg; days later, he uploaded [[Proposition to Sega|a video]] attempting to go into business with Sega to create official Sonichu products. In the video, he demands a six-figure salary, along with [[Chris and health|full insurance benefits]] and [[Chris and reality|maternity leave]]. These incidents seem to indicate Chris's belief that money comes out of nowhere and is unlimited in value. Chris has also shown continued unrealistic expectations when it comes to the value of his belongings and how the market works; in August 2016, he listed a used VHS of ''Aladdin'' on Ebay with a 'Buy it Now' price of $3,000. There have been no (legitimate) takers[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aladdin-VHS-Black-Diamond-The-Classics-/282128626463?hash=item41b02d331f:g:wuYAAOSwaB5XqXIF], probably because one can buy the same edition on Amazon for ''one penny'' (plus shipping, but still).&lt;br /&gt;
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On top of this, Chris has asked for donations, or at least mentioned them, in almost every video he's made in 2016. At first, this was supposedly to fund his production of Sonichu merchandise, but lately he claims that he and Barb need help with paying the bills and buying groceries. While it's entirely possible that Chris is simply lying to get more money for [[Lego|useless]] [[Video games|crap]], this indicates that the financial hardships,  which [[White knights|many]] [[Trolls|people]] have warned him about, have finally arrived. Only time will tell how his financial situation ultimately plays out, but given his attitude and inaction, the future definitely doesn't seem bright.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris and credit cards==&lt;br /&gt;
That Chris has managed to acquire several credit cards is very surprising, but the foolishness with which he uses them wouldn't surprise anybody at all. As of [[February 2009]], Chris had managed to rack up $2,000 worth of debt (at the time of [[Mumble 4]], $1,000 of that sum came from the [[PSN]] store, but his bill for PSN downloads increased by the day) and had even stolen his parents' credit cards to use when his own were maxed out. According to an [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|e-mail Chris sent to Vivian Gee]], by [[January 2010]] his debt was around $3,500 and had apparently been higher at some point in the intervening time.&lt;br /&gt;
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By that point, Chris's debt had gotten so out of hand that Bob was forced to step in, making Chris reduce and manage on his spending, and forcing Chris to make regular payments to pay off his outstanding debt. Chris, thoughtless and uninterested in the fact that unpaid credit card debt accrues severe interest, had historically made payments in the smallest installments possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris provided some more details about this situation in his [[Jackie E-mails 6|e-mails to Jackie]] from [[July 2010]]. At some point, Bob paid off Chris's credit card debt and took payment in installments out of the tugboat in compensation. This foolish act of parental financial enabling allowed Chris to avoid the immediate consequences of his gross financial irresponsibility, and resulted in Chris learning nothing about how to manage his own finances, reinforcing Chris's attitude that he should be able to do anything that he wants and not suffer any negative consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Best Buy MasterCard===&lt;br /&gt;
Not surprisingly, it only took Chris a few short months to land himself in more financial trouble. In the [[Matthew Noble call]], Bob himself revealed that Chris had not only acquired a MasterCard charge account through [[Best Buy]], but as of the second week of [[August 2010]], Chris had predictably used it to land himself in yet more debt and had been laden with fees for bouncing a card payment. Bob, delusional and in the throes of some sort of conspiracy paranoia involving the staff and patrons of The GAMe PLACe, claimed that it was most likely [[Michael Snyder]] who had hacked Chris's credit card and checking accounts, though why someone who's been on a manager's salary for several years would bother stealing from any of the near-destitute Chandlers is unknown. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also unknown is why ''any'' financial institution would give Chris a line of credit at this point. Bob probably salvaged Chris's credit rating when he paid off all his prior card debt at once, but he angrily claimed Chris ruined it with the Best Buy debt (certainly true), and, in disturbingly Chris-like fashion, seemed to use this damning information to try to make Chris's latest brush with the [[Chris and the Law|law]] seem &amp;quot;petty&amp;quot; in comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are three possibilities as to what actually occurred (from least to most likely):&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Troll]]s achieved this new pinnacle of fucking with Chris and didn't bother bragging about it on some forum or another.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some regular criminal's credit card fraud scheme, just by chance, happened to hit Chris.&lt;br /&gt;
* Chris blew whatever little credit that Best Buy had foolishly given him, mistakenly attempted to pay off the card with funds from his checking account that weren't there, and then he blamed his debt on trolls, in another transparent attempt to avoid responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Revelations to [[Jackie]]===&lt;br /&gt;
One of Chris's [[Jackie E-mails 7|e-mails to Jackie]] reveals that Chris acquired the Best Buy charge card without his parents' permission; he only told them about it after receiving 2 bounced check fees that showed up on his bank statement, which his father was actively monitoring. In true Chris fashion, he tried to repay the minimum balance each month. When he was forced to reveal the debt to his parents, Bob was obviously less than thrilled. He promptly took control of Chris's bank account as well as his credit cards. From that point until Bob's death, he received only an allowance in the form of Visa gift cards, leaving him unable to accrue any more debt for a short time. At the time, the prospect of not being able to blow his welfare on frivolities [[Jackie E-mails 8|stressed him out]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Curiously, even in his private communications with Jackie, Chris claimed that the overdraft fees that gave away the existence of the card to Bob were the work of trolls. Elsewhere in their conversations, however, he recounts other instances of &amp;quot;getting carried away&amp;quot; and accidentally overdrawing his bank account, suggesting that he was just using the trolls as a handy scapegoat for his own mistakes. Considering Bob shared many of Chris's outrageous delusions regarding troll activity, it is difficult to know whether or not he believed Chris's dubious excuse.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Bob's passing, Chris once again resumed his thoughtless spending, completely disregarding and forsaking any hopes that his late father had had of Chris becoming financially responsible or independent. Chris's acquisition of the PlayStation Vita and over $600 worth of video games for that system were proof that Chris had regained control of his money after Bob's death and resumed tossing it away like it was nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Discovery sues Barb===&lt;br /&gt;
On 19 February, Discovery Bank sued Barb for not paying her debts, leaving them ''even further'' in financial turmoil.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris gets a Credit Increase===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Transformers fb post1.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Chris bragging about using his credit increase to buy Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Transformers fb post2.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Chris blaming his family's financial shortfalls on his mother's bill payments]]&lt;br /&gt;
In [[June 2016]], Chris's credit card company raised his credit limit. Chris reacted to this news by blowing his &amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; on [[Transformers]] only to later beg for money over [[Facebook]] while blaming his [[Barb|mother's]] bill payments for their financial woes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==2014==&lt;br /&gt;
===June===&lt;br /&gt;
Unverified information on Chris's credit card debt was leaked on the CWCki Forums on 4 June 2014. It was revealed that Chris had at least five active credit cards, with at least $7600 in combined credit limit. Of the five known active cards, at least four were revealed to be maxed out, with at least $7400 in unpaid debt between the five cards. It was estimated that the minimum payment on Chris's known debt was at least $220 a month, and it was revealed that the only reason that Chris had been able to obtain the credit that he had was that, historically, he had almost always at least paid the minimum payment each month, although it was implied that he rarely if ever paid more than the minimum.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/chris-and-his-finances-an-in-depth-review-of-his-debt.3809/ CWCki Forums: &amp;quot;Chris and his finances: An in-depth review of his debt&amp;quot;] ([https://archive.today/K6R2c archived version])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the Chandlers' financial situation as of June 2014, with most of Chris's tugboat going to help pay essential household expenses, it seems very unlikely that Chris has the financial resources to even pay off a small portion of his known debt, straining to make the monthly minimums each month. In response to his looming debt, instead of seeking financial consulting or trying to get a paying job, [[Chris and his Ego|Chris demanded massive monetary donations on Facebook]], and sought exorbitant prices for his [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|crude artwork]] that he was selling on eBay.&lt;br /&gt;
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===September===&lt;br /&gt;
Throughout the summer of 2014, Chris continued to spend thousands of dollars on [[Lego]] and other frivolities, all while whining and complaining on Facebook about his and his mother's poor finances. Chris financed this spending primarily with money from selling custom arts and crafts on his eBay account. Offering free shipping to customers, Chris would receive money from customers, and then pay for shipping out of his own pocket. However, Chris would immediately spend money as soon as it was deposited into his account, often leaving him unable to ship products to customers who had already paid him because of his own financial irresponsibility and negligence. &lt;br /&gt;
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When several of Chris's eBay customers filed complaints against him because Chris failed to ship a order as promised and obligated, Chris responded by harassing and trolling the customers, posting their personal information in a public post on his Facebook account. In light of this, Chris's future money making prospects from eBay are dim, as most prospective future customers probably wouldn't want to risk being harassed or scammed by Chris.&lt;br /&gt;
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All the while, even as Chris's credit card debt continued to spiral out of control, Chris continued to buy thousands of dollars of video games, Lego, and other frivolities. As if this were not bad enough, just days after putting his and Barb's cars up for sale, (at exorbitant prices) Chris went out and bought a 2010 Ford Focus, stating on Facebook that he had been approved for a loan, probably at a high interest rate. &lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also stated that paying for insurance on his new car was &amp;quot;killing&amp;quot; him, implying that either the insurance payment was costly, that he was having trouble paying it, or both. It was commonly speculated on the [[CWCki Forums]] that Chris and his mother would be unable to afford to keep the car and that it would be repossessed in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris placed two cars for sale on Craigslist in September 2014. One was a dilapidated, rusty 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block that hadn't run in over a year. Despite having a market value (as scrap) of approximately $150, Chris demanded $5,000 for the automobile, insisting that the cracked engine block made the car a great [[Chris and reality|&amp;quot;fixer upper.&amp;quot;]] Chris also placed his mother's BMW Z3 for sale, demanding $15,000 for a car that had a book value of approximately $3,000. &lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout 2014, Chris continued his foolish behaviors of maxing out all his available credit, paying only the minimums on all his loans/debts, immediately spending money as soon as he got it, and making large, impulse purchases on unrealistic assumptions of future sales and income from various sources. (eBay, car sales, etc) Evidently, even after years of financial hardship, being burdened with debt, and paying a cumulative total of thousands of dollars in interest, Chris has apparently learned nothing about handling his personal finances, and refuses to try to live within the means provided to him by his monthly tugboat.&lt;br /&gt;
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One dreads to imagine how his financial incompetence will affect him once Barb is dead - knowing Chris, and while it is quite tragic, he'll probably continue in his destructive spending patterns until he loses everything he has, and even then, he'll [[Ego|learn nothing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==2016==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Financhu Crisis}}&lt;br /&gt;
In 2016, Chris's e-begging drastically increased, as a result of the Chandlers' stubborn refusal to live within their means. This year saw Chris spend over $1,000 on toys, while both Chris and Barb had court cases resolved which penalized them with steep costs.  In addition, Barb joined in to the begging, appearing in three videos so far.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also lost his Etsy shop, started nine months prior in 2015, leaving him without a revenue stream outside of the tugboat. In July, Chris decided to sell some of his possessions on eBay and continue to offer video messages, arranged through text messages instead of the defunct Etsy shop, for $50 each.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the comic==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|250px|[[CWCville]] currency.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]] it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris in real life. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the [[United States of America|American]] populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two-story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|&amp;quot;paid&amp;quot; in average]] of US$3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 21#Home economics]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19:_Date_Ed_.28Even_Though_the_Idea_Sounds_Dated.29|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually issues its own currency, in the form of C-Quarters and W-Quarters. Ten C-Quarters make up a W-Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word &amp;quot;quarter&amp;quot; means]]. (Our best guess: C-Quarters = US$0.25, W-Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in U.S. dollars: perhaps to bolster the dictatorship's foreign currency reserves, ''à la'' [[Wikipedia:North Korea|North Korea]].&lt;br /&gt;
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This makes even less sense considering [[CWCVille]] is part of the [[United States]]. States, let alone cities, cannot print their own money, despite holding considerable power over their own affairs. The Constitution expressly forbids anyone else other than the federal government from issuing currency. However, it has been somewhat common for companies, communities and local governments to issue localized currency known as 'scrip', a depression era practice still seen from time to time. [[Chris]] being Chris, and likely reading [[Goosebumps]] instead of paying attention in class likely is wholly unaware of this information.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the [[CWCipedia]] article on Sonichu, Chris wrote that [[Rosechu]] is usually the one who cooks for her family, but when Sonichu cooks for his wife and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|kids]] he &amp;quot;will go as HIGH in portions as a Banquet&amp;quot;, even though he only cooks for five individuals.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;gt;[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Married Life and Children Sonichu]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This suggest that Sonichu is just as frivolous with money as his father.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Soup hotels===&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American [[Wikipedia:Social Security (United States)|Social Security]] system if he was left in charge of it in a text called &amp;quot;[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]].&amp;quot; This is where the idea of &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; came from.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels.|Chris with a very bad idea [http://leoweekly.com/news/left-wayside that has come to fruition in one American city...]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris depicts &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; as buildings ten stories tall with between ten and twenty rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, beds, lighting and cable television.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 20#This still implies that CWCville has a massive homeless problem]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, the homeless stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in [[CWCville]], there are around 1,500 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and a bevy of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that [[CWCville]] has had to open at least seven new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things. Or more tellingly, that the economy of CWCville is crashing to the ground, fast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In other works==&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris loses his mind|Mailbag 29]] he stated that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp, pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free [[Dating education|Sex Ed classes]] for [[virgin]]s. &lt;br /&gt;
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In real life, according to Chris, he tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. The prostitute hung up on him according to him.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late [[October 2011]], Chris posted a Craigslist ad for a 12-year old 32&amp;quot; CRT television and expected a non-negotiable $250 for it;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Craigslist#Television]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in reality, this is about the price of a new flatscreen HDTV of that size, and he would be lucky to get a tenth of his asking price.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also proves us that, in the possibility of being part of a family, he wouldn't be the main purveyor. In the [[PlayingHouse]] video, his [[sweetheart]] of [[Jackie|the moment]] is portrayed as a successful journalist with high ambitions while he's a [[14 Branchland Court|stay at home]] Dad. Even then, he portrays himself doing &amp;quot;hard work&amp;quot; like [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|changing diapers]] and watching over the kids. In this last role, he's so incompetent that he needs to recruit his [[Crystal|preschool daughter]] to watch over [[Reginald Chandler|his son]] while he's shopping. This is paralleled by his real life situation - with [[Bob]] gone, one would assume that he'd be the &amp;quot;man of the house&amp;quot; and assume some responsibility for once. Unfortunately, as evidenced by his [[This is how the Trial went|admission in court,]] Barb is still pulling his ass out of any such concept by paying his court fees. Keep in mind that, by extension, Chris is being minded by an ailing woman's retirement money which was used to bail him out of a mess that ''he'' started, while he wastes his own money on meaningless frivolities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== On TV ==&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chris Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, ''à-la'' the season premieres of [[wikipedia:24 (TV Series)|''24'']]. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conclusion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given Chris's carefree abandon when it comes to his spending habits, many are actually concerned as to what will happen to Chris when Barb passes on and he has to fend for himself. If past (and present) experiences are any indication, it's that if Chris continues on his path of not saving his money and spending it on frivolous crap that he doesn't need, he'll wind up broke and in severe debt. A [[Mumble_4|past conversation]] with [[Clyde Cash]] revealed that he doesn't even know the basic expenses that go into running a household, and we all know how Chris's plan of [[PlayingHouse|marrying a sweetheart to dump all of the financial responsibilities on her]] will [[Sweetheart#Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?|turn out.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Long story short, if Chris doesn't start saving for his future now, then when Barb finally passes on, he won't have one to look forward to. And he'll have nobody to blame but himself. ''(Not that he won't try, of course.)''&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Monthly tugboat]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Financhu Crisis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cwcshutup.png|thumb|Chris's response to literally any commercial.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|He's not good at math when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Autism|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.&lt;br /&gt;
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==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==&lt;br /&gt;
For the vast majority of Chris's &amp;quot;adult&amp;quot; life, his only source of income has been the &amp;quot;[[tugboat]]&amp;quot; that he receives from the U.S. federal government every month. In 2009, this payout was $809 a month, placing his annual income at $9,708. Chris's parents originally took $450 to pay for room and board;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; this payment was later increased to $565, and then to $580, after Bob paid off Chris's enormous credit card debt.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#8 December]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Jackie Chat 8]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; How much he gets to keep these days isn't known.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. Yet with my impuslive [sic] shoppiness [sic] (mostly controable [sic]), I end up spending my side-money after I get it.|Chris, [[Chris and His Ego|completely deluded and taking pride in being a lazy bastard]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Miyamoto Saga]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris and impulse spending===&lt;br /&gt;
It's obvious that Chris has no grasp on the real value of money, since he actively wastes as much of his monthly tugboat as possible on things like [[The Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[List of Chris's video games|video games]], [[alcohol]], [[Kaka Makeup Basics|make-up]], [[Lego|toys]], [[Mia Hamm|prostitutes]], and weekly lottery tickets&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Jackie E-mails 12]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Also, in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', while legislating as mayor of [[CWCville]], he equated 10 years in prison to a US$1,500 fine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris Chan Q&amp;amp;A 27 October 2008]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also equated fifty hours of [[Wikipedia:Community service|community service]] to $500 (for any [[sex]]ual violations).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; His [[PlayStation Network]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' single [[PlayStation 3]] game that he's ever purchased, and even for ''games he doesn't own'', and he also further promoted his [[Chris and brand loyalty|Sony fanboyism]] by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely costs about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris bought his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores. Usually, children are taught the value of money at a very young age--not in Chris's case, apparently.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris's parental enabling===&lt;br /&gt;
Bob encouraged his son to remain unemployed, since he believed that Chris would earn more money from his monthly tugboat than he would have from getting a job. However, this assumption was and is inaccurate. Minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25 an hour. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.&lt;br /&gt;
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A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else) by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about &amp;quot;$6 a day for small things&amp;quot;, buying him [[List of restaurants|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Target|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[autism|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris's beliefs===&lt;br /&gt;
Chris believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless junk, he is aiding the economy and paying for other people's tugboats.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a [[Honor roll|damningly moronic statement]], since sales tax goes to the state government and these &amp;quot;tugboats&amp;quot; are paid with ''federal'' payroll tax. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Chris and his Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond. His mother has served as a bad influence in both regards, as she would frequently shop at Goodwill and compulsively hoard the purchases, which both wasted money and helped turn their house into a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire hazard]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Losing the tugboat?===&lt;br /&gt;
With the possibility that he might have ended up in jail over more recently acccumulated debt, Chris's bad spending habits would have come back to haunt him. In jail, he wouldn't be able to collect his monthly tugboat, and if a full year passed without him collecting his checks, he would have to reapply for his welfare, something that would be a bit more difficult under the Obama administration, which doesn't look too kindly on social security due to the stress it causes to the overall economy,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us/politics/financial-outlook-dims-for-social-security.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and has even started measures to cut them down altogether.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-winds-down-longer-benefits-152809517.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That, combined with the costs associated with court appearances as well as the fact that the last surviving breadwinner, Barbara, may also land in jail, would result in Chris being placed in very dire circumstances, something which [[Kacey|several]] [[Clyde Cash|trolls]] [[Kacey Call 1.5|have]] [[Mumble 4|tried]] [[PlayStation Vita|and failed]] to warn him about. Fortunately for him, he wasn't sentenced to jail, but the fact that he openly stated during his trial that his mother would pay his court fees is telling of both [[White_knight#Autism_does_not_excuse_a_terrible_person|his character]] and his financial situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, it seems that even this has not given Chris pause, as he got himself into legal trouble [[26 December 2014|again]] and even got sent to jail for a brief time until he was quickly bailed out. Since he is both a repeat offender and financially drained after his last court hearing, it seems very unlikely that Chris will get off with a slap on the wrist this time, which means that he is once again in danger of losing his tugboat.&lt;br /&gt;
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===In recent years===&lt;br /&gt;
It is worth noting that despite all of the circumstances (and expenses) described above, Chris is still wasting money on video games, as evidenced by his playing of ''Rock Band Blitz'' on the PSN, which was released in August 2012, pretty much cementing that even when faced with the consequences of bad spending habits, Chris will learn absolutely nothing. He has also spent gigantic amounts of money on Legos, despite the dire straits his family's finances are in since the destruction of 14BC.&lt;br /&gt;
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In September [[2013]], Chris complained about he and his mom going through &amp;quot;emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By&amp;quot;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Facebook]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; making it clear that the family income had dipped since Bob's passing. However, these supposedly lean times were apparently not enough to motivate Chris to get a job, or even to stop buying games, as evidenced by him racking up over $1000 in game purchases over that time period.&lt;br /&gt;
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On [[10 January 2014]], 14 Branchland Court burnt down. This would undoubtedly place the Chandlers in grim circumstances, due to the costs of rebuilding the home and replacing what was lost. Many, concerned about Chris due to his wasteful spending habits, hoped that this would be the moment in Chris's life where he finally woke up and realized the importance of saving when things like this happen. Unfortunately, not even ''this'' has broken Chris's thick skull--he apparently purchased ''The Lego Movie Video Game'' for his PS3 in February ''(however, it should be noted that due to a huge inflow of troll remorse, it's entirely possible that the game was a donation....or at least it was until it was [[March 2014 Facebook Posts#Rumour|confirmed that he did indeed buy it himself]].)'' At this point, only time will tell.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the months that followed, Chris has resorted to begging online for money, placing extra emphasis on ''&amp;quot;My mother and I really need the money,&amp;quot;'' despite dropping more than '''$5,000''' on expensive [[Lego]] sets to feed his worsening addiction. One would think that Chris would have wised up to the fact that his wanton spending and lack of gainful employment are contributing to his woes, but one glance at his [[May 2014 Facebook Posts]] could easily tell you that he's seeing his situation as an avenue to get stuff from people, the most ridiculous of which being a &amp;quot;$300 Sea Cow&amp;quot; on his wish list, which would not benefit anybody but himself in the slightest. He has also attempted to sell [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|an original art piece of his]] on eBay; logical, though sorely [[Chris and art|misguided]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In January 2015, it was [[CWCki Forums|leaked]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, racking up '''585''' transactions'' in the last 4.5 years&amp;lt;reF&amp;gt;[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/2015-jan-12-nintendo-employee-details-chriss-recent-video-game-purchases.7050/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a list which includes useless shovelware, hoards of 1st party Nintendo software, Virtual Console games and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he doesn't even like]]. 276 of these purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (buying '''4''' DSs and DSis), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind 39% of purchases Chris has on his account are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high number. This information comes on the heels of Chris begging people for money to fix his mother's cavities, as well as the financial worries that his trials will undoubtedly cause.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[May 2016]], Chris displayed a level of financial ignorance that shatters any hope of him ever becoming competent with money. Days after [[Please, Donate|begging for donations]] to assist his ailing household, he announced that he would be starting [[Sonichu Entertainment of America|his own business]], with the declaration that each employee's salary would be ''25% of the profit.'' Naturally, Chris completely fails to realize that under these conditions, he would have no money at all if he had four or more employees. However, that's just the tip of the iceberg; days later, he uploaded [[Proposition to Sega|a video]] attempting to go into business with Sega to create official Sonichu products. In the video, he demands a six-figure salary, along with [[Chris and health|full insurance benefits]] and [[Chris and reality|maternity leave]]. These incidents seem to indicate Chris's belief that money comes out of nowhere and is unlimited in value. Chris has also shown continued unrealistic expectations when it comes to the value of his belongings and how the market works; in August 2016, he listed a used VHS of ''Aladdin'' on Ebay with a 'Buy it Now' price of $3,000. There have been no (legitimate) takers[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aladdin-VHS-Black-Diamond-The-Classics-/282128626463?hash=item41b02d331f:g:wuYAAOSwaB5XqXIF], probably because one can buy the same edition on Amazon for ''one penny'' (plus shipping, but still).&lt;br /&gt;
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On top of this, Chris has asked for donations, or at least mentioned them, in almost every video he's made in 2016. At first, this was supposedly to fund his production of Sonichu merchandise, but lately he claims that he and Barb need help with paying the bills and buying groceries. While it's entirely possible that Chris is simply lying to get more money for [[Lego|useless]] [[Video games|crap]], this indicates that the financial hardships,  which [[White knights|many]] [[Trolls|people]] have warned him about, have finally arrived. Only time will tell how his financial situation ultimately plays out, but given his attitude and inaction, the future definitely doesn't seem bright.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris and credit cards==&lt;br /&gt;
That Chris has managed to acquire several credit cards is very surprising, but the foolishness with which he uses them wouldn't surprise anybody at all. As of [[February 2009]], Chris had managed to rack up $2,000 worth of debt (at the time of [[Mumble 4]], $1,000 of that sum came from the [[PSN]] store, but his bill for PSN downloads increased by the day) and had even stolen his parents' credit cards to use when his own were maxed out. According to an [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|e-mail Chris sent to Vivian Gee]], by [[January 2010]] his debt was around $3,500 and had apparently been higher at some point in the intervening time.&lt;br /&gt;
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By that point, Chris's debt had gotten so out of hand that Bob was forced to step in, making Chris reduce and manage on his spending, and forcing Chris to make regular payments to pay off his outstanding debt. Chris, thoughtless and uninterested in the fact that unpaid credit card debt accrues severe interest, had historically made payments in the smallest installments possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris provided some more details about this situation in his [[Jackie E-mails 6|e-mails to Jackie]] from [[July 2010]]. At some point, Bob paid off Chris's credit card debt and took payment in installments out of the tugboat in compensation. This foolish act of parental financial enabling allowed Chris to avoid the immediate consequences of his gross financial irresponsibility, and resulted in Chris learning nothing about how to manage his own finances, reinforcing Chris's attitude that he should be able to do anything that he wants and not suffer any negative consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Best Buy MasterCard===&lt;br /&gt;
Not surprisingly, it only took Chris a few short months to land himself in more financial trouble. In the [[Matthew Noble call]], Bob himself revealed that Chris had not only acquired a MasterCard charge account through [[Best Buy]], but as of the second week of [[August 2010]], Chris had predictably used it to land himself in yet more debt and had been laden with fees for bouncing a card payment. Bob, delusional and in the throes of some sort of conspiracy paranoia involving the staff and patrons of The GAMe PLACe, claimed that it was most likely [[Michael Snyder]] who had hacked Chris's credit card and checking accounts, though why someone who's been on a manager's salary for several years would bother stealing from any of the near-destitute Chandlers is unknown. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also unknown is why ''any'' financial institution would give Chris a line of credit at this point. Bob probably salvaged Chris's credit rating when he paid off all his prior card debt at once, but he angrily claimed Chris ruined it with the Best Buy debt (certainly true), and, in disturbingly Chris-like fashion, seemed to use this damning information to try to make Chris's latest brush with the [[Chris and the Law|law]] seem &amp;quot;petty&amp;quot; in comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are three possibilities as to what actually occurred (from least to most likely):&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Troll]]s achieved this new pinnacle of fucking with Chris and didn't bother bragging about it on some forum or another.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some regular criminal's credit card fraud scheme, just by chance, happened to hit Chris.&lt;br /&gt;
* Chris blew whatever little credit that Best Buy had foolishly given him, mistakenly attempted to pay off the card with funds from his checking account that weren't there, and then he blamed his debt on trolls, in another transparent attempt to avoid responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Revelations to [[Jackie]]===&lt;br /&gt;
One of Chris's [[Jackie E-mails 7|e-mails to Jackie]] reveals that Chris acquired the Best Buy charge card without his parents' permission; he only told them about it after receiving 2 bounced check fees that showed up on his bank statement, which his father was actively monitoring. In true Chris fashion, he tried to repay the minimum balance each month. When he was forced to reveal the debt to his parents, Bob was obviously less than thrilled. He promptly took control of Chris's bank account as well as his credit cards. From that point until Bob's death, he received only an allowance in the form of Visa gift cards, leaving him unable to accrue any more debt for a short time. At the time, the prospect of not being able to blow his welfare on frivolities [[Jackie E-mails 8|stressed him out]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Curiously, even in his private communications with Jackie, Chris claimed that the overdraft fees that gave away the existence of the card to Bob were the work of trolls. Elsewhere in their conversations, however, he recounts other instances of &amp;quot;getting carried away&amp;quot; and accidentally overdrawing his bank account, suggesting that he was just using the trolls as a handy scapegoat for his own mistakes. Considering Bob shared many of Chris's outrageous delusions regarding troll activity, it is difficult to know whether or not he believed Chris's dubious excuse.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Bob's passing, Chris once again resumed his thoughtless spending, completely disregarding and forsaking any hopes that his late father had had of Chris becoming financially responsible or independent. Chris's acquisition of the PlayStation Vita and over $600 worth of video games for that system were proof that Chris had regained control of his money after Bob's death and resumed tossing it away like it was nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Discovery sues Barb===&lt;br /&gt;
On 19 February, Discovery Bank sued Barb for not paying her debts, leaving them ''even further'' in financial turmoil.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris gets a Credit Increase===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Transformers fb post1.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Chris bragging about using his credit increase to buy Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Transformers fb post2.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Chris blaming his family's financial shortfalls on his mother's bill payments]]&lt;br /&gt;
In [[June 2016]], Chris's credit card company raised his credit limit. Chris reacted to this news by blowing his &amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; on [[Transformers]] only to later beg for money over [[Facebook]] while blaming his [[Barb|mother's]] bill payments for their financial woes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==2014==&lt;br /&gt;
===June===&lt;br /&gt;
Unverified information on Chris's credit card debt was leaked on the CWCki Forums on 4 June 2014. It was revealed that Chris had at least five active credit cards, with at least $7600 in combined credit limit. Of the five known active cards, at least four were revealed to be maxed out, with at least $7400 in unpaid debt between the five cards. It was estimated that the minimum payment on Chris's known debt was at least $220 a month, and it was revealed that the only reason that Chris had been able to obtain the credit that he had was that, historically, he had almost always at least paid the minimum payment each month, although it was implied that he rarely if ever paid more than the minimum.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/chris-and-his-finances-an-in-depth-review-of-his-debt.3809/ CWCki Forums: &amp;quot;Chris and his finances: An in-depth review of his debt&amp;quot;] ([https://archive.today/K6R2c archived version])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the Chandlers' financial situation as of June 2014, with most of Chris's tugboat going to help pay essential household expenses, it seems very unlikely that Chris has the financial resources to even pay off a small portion of his known debt, straining to make the monthly minimums each month. In response to his looming debt, instead of seeking financial consulting or trying to get a paying job, [[Chris and his Ego|Chris demanded massive monetary donations on Facebook]], and sought exorbitant prices for his [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|crude artwork]] that he was selling on eBay.&lt;br /&gt;
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===September===&lt;br /&gt;
Throughout the summer of 2014, Chris continued to spend thousands of dollars on [[Lego]] and other frivolities, all while whining and complaining on Facebook about his and his mother's poor finances. Chris financed this spending primarily with money from selling custom arts and crafts on his eBay account. Offering free shipping to customers, Chris would receive money from customers, and then pay for shipping out of his own pocket. However, Chris would immediately spend money as soon as it was deposited into his account, often leaving him unable to ship products to customers who had already paid him because of his own financial irresponsibility and negligence. &lt;br /&gt;
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When several of Chris's eBay customers filed complaints against him because Chris failed to ship a order as promised and obligated, Chris responded by harassing and trolling the customers, posting their personal information in a public post on his Facebook account. In light of this, Chris's future money making prospects from eBay are dim, as most prospective future customers probably wouldn't want to risk being harassed or scammed by Chris.&lt;br /&gt;
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All the while, even as Chris's credit card debt continued to spiral out of control, Chris continued to buy thousands of dollars of video games, Lego, and other frivolities. As if this were not bad enough, just days after putting his and Barb's cars up for sale, (at exorbitant prices) Chris went out and bought a 2010 Ford Focus, stating on Facebook that he had been approved for a loan, probably at a high interest rate. &lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also stated that paying for insurance on his new car was &amp;quot;killing&amp;quot; him, implying that either the insurance payment was costly, that he was having trouble paying it, or both. It was commonly speculated on the [[CWCki Forums]] that Chris and his mother would be unable to afford to keep the car and that it would be repossessed in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris placed two cars for sale on Craigslist in September 2014. One was a dilapidated, rusty 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block that hadn't run in over a year. Despite having a market value (as scrap) of approximately $150, Chris demanded $5,000 for the automobile, insisting that the cracked engine block made the car a great [[Chris and reality|&amp;quot;fixer upper.&amp;quot;]] Chris also placed his mother's BMW Z3 for sale, demanding $15,000 for a car that had a book value of approximately $3,000. &lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout 2014, Chris continued his foolish behaviors of maxing out all his available credit, paying only the minimums on all his loans/debts, immediately spending money as soon as he got it, and making large, impulse purchases on unrealistic assumptions of future sales and income from various sources. (eBay, car sales, etc) Evidently, even after years of financial hardship, being burdened with debt, and paying a cumulative total of thousands of dollars in interest, Chris has apparently learned nothing about handling his personal finances, and refuses to try to live within the means provided to him by his monthly tugboat.&lt;br /&gt;
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One dreads to imagine how his financial incompetence will affect him once Barb is dead - knowing Chris, and while it is quite tragic, he'll probably continue in his destructive spending patterns until he loses everything he has, and even then, he'll [[Ego|learn nothing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==2016==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Financhu Crisis}}&lt;br /&gt;
In 2016, Chris's e-begging drastically increased, as a result of the Chandlers' stubborn refusal to live within their means. This year saw Chris spend over $1,000 on toys, while both Chris and Barb had court cases resolved which penalized them with steep costs.  In addition, Barb joined in to the begging, appearing in three videos so far.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also lost his Etsy shop, started nine months prior in 2015, leaving him without a revenue stream outside of the tugboat. In July, Chris decided to sell some of his possessions on eBay and continue to offer video messages, arranged through text messages instead of the defunct Etsy shop, for $50 each.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the comic==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|250px|[[CWCville]] currency.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]] it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris in real life. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the [[United States of America|American]] populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two-story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|&amp;quot;paid&amp;quot; in average]] of US$3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 21#Home economics]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19:_Date_Ed_.28Even_Though_the_Idea_Sounds_Dated.29|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually issues its own currency, in the form of C-Quarters and W-Quarters. Ten C-Quarters make up a W-Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word &amp;quot;quarter&amp;quot; means]]. (Our best guess: C-Quarters = US$0.25, W-Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in U.S. dollars: perhaps to bolster the dictatorship's foreign currency reserves, ''à la'' [[Wikipedia:North Korea|North Korea]].&lt;br /&gt;
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This makes even less sense considering [[CWCVille]] is part of the [[United States]]. States, let alone cities, cannot print their own money, despite holding considerable power over their own affairs. The Constitution expressly forbids anyone else other than the federal government from issuing currency. However it has been somewhat common for companys, communities and local governments to issue localized currency known as 'scrip', notably a depression era practice still seen from time to time. [[Chris]] being Chris, and likely reading [[Goosebumps]] instead of paying attention in class likely is wholly unaware of this information.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the [[CWCipedia]] article on Sonichu, Chris wrote that [[Rosechu]] is usually the one who cooks for her family, but when Sonichu cooks for his wife and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|kids]] he &amp;quot;will go as HIGH in portions as a Banquet&amp;quot;, even though he only cooks for five individuals.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;gt;[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Married Life and Children Sonichu]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This suggest that Sonichu is just as frivolous with money as his father.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Soup hotels===&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American [[Wikipedia:Social Security (United States)|Social Security]] system if he was left in charge of it in a text called &amp;quot;[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]].&amp;quot; This is where the idea of &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; came from.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels.|Chris with a very bad idea [http://leoweekly.com/news/left-wayside that has come to fruition in one American city...]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris depicts &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; as buildings ten stories tall with between ten and twenty rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, beds, lighting and cable television.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 20#This still implies that CWCville has a massive homeless problem]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, the homeless stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in [[CWCville]], there are around 1,500 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and a bevy of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that [[CWCville]] has had to open at least seven new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things. Or more tellingly, that the economy of CWCville is crashing to the ground, fast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In other works==&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris loses his mind|Mailbag 29]] he stated that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp, pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free [[Dating education|Sex Ed classes]] for [[virgin]]s. &lt;br /&gt;
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In real life, according to Chris, he tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. The prostitute hung up on him according to him.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late [[October 2011]], Chris posted a Craigslist ad for a 12-year old 32&amp;quot; CRT television and expected a non-negotiable $250 for it;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Craigslist#Television]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in reality, this is about the price of a new flatscreen HDTV of that size, and he would be lucky to get a tenth of his asking price.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also proves us that, in the possibility of being part of a family, he wouldn't be the main purveyor. In the [[PlayingHouse]] video, his [[sweetheart]] of [[Jackie|the moment]] is portrayed as a successful journalist with high ambitions while he's a [[14 Branchland Court|stay at home]] Dad. Even then, he portrays himself doing &amp;quot;hard work&amp;quot; like [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|changing diapers]] and watching over the kids. In this last role, he's so incompetent that he needs to recruit his [[Crystal|preschool daughter]] to watch over [[Reginald Chandler|his son]] while he's shopping. This is paralleled by his real life situation - with [[Bob]] gone, one would assume that he'd be the &amp;quot;man of the house&amp;quot; and assume some responsibility for once. Unfortunately, as evidenced by his [[This is how the Trial went|admission in court,]] Barb is still pulling his ass out of any such concept by paying his court fees. Keep in mind that, by extension, Chris is being minded by an ailing woman's retirement money which was used to bail him out of a mess that ''he'' started, while he wastes his own money on meaningless frivolities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== On TV ==&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chris Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, ''à-la'' the season premieres of [[wikipedia:24 (TV Series)|''24'']]. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conclusion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given Chris's carefree abandon when it comes to his spending habits, many are actually concerned as to what will happen to Chris when Barb passes on and he has to fend for himself. If past (and present) experiences are any indication, it's that if Chris continues on his path of not saving his money and spending it on frivolous crap that he doesn't need, he'll wind up broke and in severe debt. A [[Mumble_4|past conversation]] with [[Clyde Cash]] revealed that he doesn't even know the basic expenses that go into running a household, and we all know how Chris's plan of [[PlayingHouse|marrying a sweetheart to dump all of the financial responsibilities on her]] will [[Sweetheart#Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?|turn out.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Long story short, if Chris doesn't start saving for his future now, then when Barb finally passes on, he won't have one to look forward to. And he'll have nobody to blame but himself. ''(Not that he won't try, of course.)''&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Monthly tugboat]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Financhu Crisis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|He's not good at math when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Autism|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.&lt;br /&gt;
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==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==&lt;br /&gt;
For the vast majority of Chris's &amp;quot;adult&amp;quot; life, his only source of income has been the &amp;quot;[[tugboat]]&amp;quot; that he receives from the U.S. federal government every month. In 2009, this payout was $809 a month, placing his annual income at $9,708. Chris's parents originally took $450 to pay for room and board;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; this payment was later increased to $565, and then to $580, after Bob paid off Chris's enormous credit card debt.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#8 December]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Jackie Chat 8]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; How much he gets to keep these days isn't known.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. Yet with my impuslive [sic] shoppiness [sic] (mostly controable [sic]), I end up spending my side-money after I get it.|Chris, [[Chris and His Ego|completely deluded and taking pride in being a lazy bastard]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Miyamoto Saga]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris and impulse spending===&lt;br /&gt;
It's obvious that Chris has no grasp on the real value of money, since he actively wastes as much of his monthly tugboat as possible on things like [[The Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[List of Chris's video games|video games]], [[alcohol]], [[Kaka Makeup Basics|make-up]], [[Lego|toys]], [[Mia Hamm|prostitutes]], and weekly lottery tickets&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Jackie E-mails 12]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Also, in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', while legislating as mayor of [[CWCville]], he equated 10 years in prison to a US$1,500 fine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris Chan Q&amp;amp;A 27 October 2008]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also equated fifty hours of [[Wikipedia:Community service|community service]] to $500 (for any [[sex]]ual violations).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Miyamoto&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; His [[PlayStation Network]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' single [[PlayStation 3]] game that he's ever purchased, and even for ''games he doesn't own'', and he also further promoted his [[Chris and brand loyalty|Sony fanboyism]] by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely costs about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris bought his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores. Usually, children are taught the value of money at a very young age--not in Chris's case, apparently.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris's parental enabling===&lt;br /&gt;
Bob encouraged his son to remain unemployed, since he believed that Chris would earn more money from his monthly tugboat than he would have from getting a job. However, this assumption was and is inaccurate. Minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25 an hour. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.&lt;br /&gt;
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A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else) by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about &amp;quot;$6 a day for small things&amp;quot;, buying him [[List of restaurants|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Target|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[autism|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris's beliefs===&lt;br /&gt;
Chris believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless junk, he is aiding the economy and paying for other people's tugboats.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a [[Honor roll|damningly moronic statement]], since sales tax goes to the state government and these &amp;quot;tugboats&amp;quot; are paid with ''federal'' payroll tax. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Chris and his Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond. His mother has served as a bad influence in both regards, as she would frequently shop at Goodwill and compulsively hoard the purchases, which both wasted money and helped turn their house into a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire hazard]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Losing the tugboat?===&lt;br /&gt;
With the possibility that he might have ended up in jail over more recently acccumulated debt, Chris's bad spending habits would have come back to haunt him. In jail, he wouldn't be able to collect his monthly tugboat, and if a full year passed without him collecting his checks, he would have to reapply for his welfare, something that would be a bit more difficult under the Obama administration, which doesn't look too kindly on social security due to the stress it causes to the overall economy,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us/politics/financial-outlook-dims-for-social-security.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and has even started measures to cut them down altogether.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-winds-down-longer-benefits-152809517.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That, combined with the costs associated with court appearances as well as the fact that the last surviving breadwinner, Barbara, may also land in jail, would result in Chris being placed in very dire circumstances, something which [[Kacey|several]] [[Clyde Cash|trolls]] [[Kacey Call 1.5|have]] [[Mumble 4|tried]] [[PlayStation Vita|and failed]] to warn him about. Fortunately for him, he wasn't sentenced to jail, but the fact that he openly stated during his trial that his mother would pay his court fees is telling of both [[White_knight#Autism_does_not_excuse_a_terrible_person|his character]] and his financial situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, it seems that even this has not given Chris pause, as he got himself into legal trouble [[26 December 2014|again]] and even got sent to jail for a brief time until he was quickly bailed out. Since he is both a repeat offender and financially drained after his last court hearing, it seems very unlikely that Chris will get off with a slap on the wrist this time, which means that he is once again in danger of losing his tugboat.&lt;br /&gt;
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===In recent years===&lt;br /&gt;
It is worth noting that despite all of the circumstances (and expenses) described above, Chris is still wasting money on video games, as evidenced by his playing of ''Rock Band Blitz'' on the PSN, which was released in August 2012, pretty much cementing that even when faced with the consequences of bad spending habits, Chris will learn absolutely nothing. He has also spent gigantic amounts of money on Legos, despite the dire straits his family's finances are in since the destruction of 14BC.&lt;br /&gt;
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In September [[2013]], Chris complained about he and his mom going through &amp;quot;emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By&amp;quot;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Facebook]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; making it clear that the family income had dipped since Bob's passing. However, these supposedly lean times were apparently not enough to motivate Chris to get a job, or even to stop buying games, as evidenced by him racking up over $1000 in game purchases over that time period.&lt;br /&gt;
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On [[10 January 2014]], 14 Branchland Court burnt down. This would undoubtedly place the Chandlers in grim circumstances, due to the costs of rebuilding the home and replacing what was lost. Many, concerned about Chris due to his wasteful spending habits, hoped that this would be the moment in Chris's life where he finally woke up and realized the importance of saving when things like this happen. Unfortunately, not even ''this'' has broken Chris's thick skull--he apparently purchased ''The Lego Movie Video Game'' for his PS3 in February ''(however, it should be noted that due to a huge inflow of troll remorse, it's entirely possible that the game was a donation....or at least it was until it was [[March 2014 Facebook Posts#Rumour|confirmed that he did indeed buy it himself]].)'' At this point, only time will tell.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the months that followed, Chris has resorted to begging online for money, placing extra emphasis on ''&amp;quot;My mother and I really need the money,&amp;quot;'' despite dropping more than '''$5,000''' on expensive [[Lego]] sets to feed his worsening addiction. One would think that Chris would have wised up to the fact that his wanton spending and lack of gainful employment are contributing to his woes, but one glance at his [[May 2014 Facebook Posts]] could easily tell you that he's seeing his situation as an avenue to get stuff from people, the most ridiculous of which being a &amp;quot;$300 Sea Cow&amp;quot; on his wish list, which would not benefit anybody but himself in the slightest. He has also attempted to sell [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|an original art piece of his]] on eBay; logical, though sorely [[Chris and art|misguided]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In January 2015, it was [[CWCki Forums|leaked]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, racking up '''585''' transactions'' in the last 4.5 years&amp;lt;reF&amp;gt;[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/2015-jan-12-nintendo-employee-details-chriss-recent-video-game-purchases.7050/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a list which includes useless shovelware, hoards of 1st party Nintendo software, Virtual Console games and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he doesn't even like]]. 276 of these purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (buying '''4''' DSs and DSis), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind 39% of purchases Chris has on his account are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high number. This information comes on the heels of Chris begging people for money to fix his mother's cavities, as well as the financial worries that his trials will undoubtedly cause.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[May 2016]], Chris displayed a level of financial ignorance that shatters any hope of him ever becoming competent with money. Days after [[Please, Donate|begging for donations]] to assist his ailing household, he announced that he would be starting [[Sonichu Entertainment of America|his own business]], with the declaration that each employee's salary would be ''25% of the profit.'' Naturally, Chris completely fails to realize that under these conditions, he would have no money at all if he had four or more employees. However, that's just the tip of the iceberg; days later, he uploaded [[Proposition to Sega|a video]] attempting to go into business with Sega to create official Sonichu products. In the video, he demands a six-figure salary, along with [[Chris and health|full insurance benefits]] and [[Chris and reality|maternity leave]]. These incidents seem to indicate Chris's belief that money comes out of nowhere and is unlimited in value. Chris has also shown continued unrealistic expectations when it comes to the value of his belongings and how the market works; in August 2016, he listed a used VHS of ''Aladdin'' on Ebay with a 'Buy it Now' price of $3,000. There have been no (legitimate) takers[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aladdin-VHS-Black-Diamond-The-Classics-/282128626463?hash=item41b02d331f:g:wuYAAOSwaB5XqXIF], probably because one can buy the same edition on Amazon for ''one penny'' (plus shipping, but still).&lt;br /&gt;
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On top of this, Chris has asked for donations, or at least mentioned them, in almost every video he's made in 2016. At first, this was supposedly to fund his production of Sonichu merchandise, but lately he claims that he and Barb need help with paying the bills and buying groceries. While it's entirely possible that Chris is simply lying to get more money for [[Lego|useless]] [[Video games|crap]], this indicates that the financial hardships,  which [[White knights|many]] [[Trolls|people]] have warned him about, have finally arrived. Only time will tell how his financial situation ultimately plays out, but given his attitude and inaction, the future definitely doesn't seem bright.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris and credit cards==&lt;br /&gt;
That Chris has managed to acquire several credit cards is very surprising, but the foolishness with which he uses them wouldn't surprise anybody at all. As of [[February 2009]], Chris had managed to rack up $2,000 worth of debt (at the time of [[Mumble 4]], $1,000 of that sum came from the [[PSN]] store, but his bill for PSN downloads increased by the day) and had even stolen his parents' credit cards to use when his own were maxed out. According to an [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|e-mail Chris sent to Vivian Gee]], by [[January 2010]] his debt was around $3,500 and had apparently been higher at some point in the intervening time.&lt;br /&gt;
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By that point, Chris's debt had gotten so out of hand that Bob was forced to step in, making Chris reduce and manage on his spending, and forcing Chris to make regular payments to pay off his outstanding debt. Chris, thoughtless and uninterested in the fact that unpaid credit card debt accrues severe interest, had historically made payments in the smallest installments possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris provided some more details about this situation in his [[Jackie E-mails 6|e-mails to Jackie]] from [[July 2010]]. At some point, Bob paid off Chris's credit card debt and took payment in installments out of the tugboat in compensation. This foolish act of parental financial enabling allowed Chris to avoid the immediate consequences of his gross financial irresponsibility, and resulted in Chris learning nothing about how to manage his own finances, reinforcing Chris's attitude that he should be able to do anything that he wants and not suffer any negative consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Best Buy MasterCard===&lt;br /&gt;
Not surprisingly, it only took Chris a few short months to land himself in more financial trouble. In the [[Matthew Noble call]], Bob himself revealed that Chris had not only acquired a MasterCard charge account through [[Best Buy]], but as of the second week of [[August 2010]], Chris had predictably used it to land himself in yet more debt and had been laden with fees for bouncing a card payment. Bob, delusional and in the throes of some sort of conspiracy paranoia involving the staff and patrons of The GAMe PLACe, claimed that it was most likely [[Michael Snyder]] who had hacked Chris's credit card and checking accounts, though why someone who's been on a manager's salary for several years would bother stealing from any of the near-destitute Chandlers is unknown. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also unknown is why ''any'' financial institution would give Chris a line of credit at this point. Bob probably salvaged Chris's credit rating when he paid off all his prior card debt at once, but he angrily claimed Chris ruined it with the Best Buy debt (certainly true), and, in disturbingly Chris-like fashion, seemed to use this damning information to try to make Chris's latest brush with the [[Chris and the Law|law]] seem &amp;quot;petty&amp;quot; in comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are three possibilities as to what actually occurred (from least to most likely):&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Troll]]s achieved this new pinnacle of fucking with Chris and didn't bother bragging about it on some forum or another.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some regular criminal's credit card fraud scheme, just by chance, happened to hit Chris.&lt;br /&gt;
* Chris blew whatever little credit that Best Buy had foolishly given him, mistakenly attempted to pay off the card with funds from his checking account that weren't there, and then he blamed his debt on trolls, in another transparent attempt to avoid responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Revelations to [[Jackie]]===&lt;br /&gt;
One of Chris's [[Jackie E-mails 7|e-mails to Jackie]] reveals that Chris acquired the Best Buy charge card without his parents' permission; he only told them about it after receiving 2 bounced check fees that showed up on his bank statement, which his father was actively monitoring. In true Chris fashion, he tried to repay the minimum balance each month. When he was forced to reveal the debt to his parents, Bob was obviously less than thrilled. He promptly took control of Chris's bank account as well as his credit cards. From that point until Bob's death, he received only an allowance in the form of Visa gift cards, leaving him unable to accrue any more debt for a short time. At the time, the prospect of not being able to blow his welfare on frivolities [[Jackie E-mails 8|stressed him out]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Curiously, even in his private communications with Jackie, Chris claimed that the overdraft fees that gave away the existence of the card to Bob were the work of trolls. Elsewhere in their conversations, however, he recounts other instances of &amp;quot;getting carried away&amp;quot; and accidentally overdrawing his bank account, suggesting that he was just using the trolls as a handy scapegoat for his own mistakes. Considering Bob shared many of Chris's outrageous delusions regarding troll activity, it is difficult to know whether or not he believed Chris's dubious excuse.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Bob's passing, Chris once again resumed his thoughtless spending, completely disregarding and forsaking any hopes that his late father had had of Chris becoming financially responsible or independent. Chris's acquisition of the PlayStation Vita and over $600 worth of video games for that system were proof that Chris had regained control of his money after Bob's death and resumed tossing it away like it was nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Discovery sues Barb===&lt;br /&gt;
On 19 February, Discovery Bank sued Barb for not paying her debts, leaving them ''even further'' in financial turmoil.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chris gets a Credit Increase===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Transformers fb post1.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Chris bragging about using his credit increase to buy Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Transformers fb post2.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Chris blaming his family's financial shortfalls on his mother's bill payments]]&lt;br /&gt;
In [[June 2016]], Chris's credit card company raised his credit limit. Chris reacted to this news by blowing his &amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; on [[Transformers]] only to later beg for money over [[Facebook]] while blaming his [[Barb|mother's]] bill payments for their financial woes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==2014==&lt;br /&gt;
===June===&lt;br /&gt;
Unverified information on Chris's credit card debt was leaked on the CWCki Forums on 4 June 2014. It was revealed that Chris had at least five active credit cards, with at least $7600 in combined credit limit. Of the five known active cards, at least four were revealed to be maxed out, with at least $7400 in unpaid debt between the five cards. It was estimated that the minimum payment on Chris's known debt was at least $220 a month, and it was revealed that the only reason that Chris had been able to obtain the credit that he had was that, historically, he had almost always at least paid the minimum payment each month, although it was implied that he rarely if ever paid more than the minimum.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/chris-and-his-finances-an-in-depth-review-of-his-debt.3809/ CWCki Forums: &amp;quot;Chris and his finances: An in-depth review of his debt&amp;quot;] ([https://archive.today/K6R2c archived version])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the Chandlers' financial situation as of June 2014, with most of Chris's tugboat going to help pay essential household expenses, it seems very unlikely that Chris has the financial resources to even pay off a small portion of his known debt, straining to make the monthly minimums each month. In response to his looming debt, instead of seeking financial consulting or trying to get a paying job, [[Chris and his Ego|Chris demanded massive monetary donations on Facebook]], and sought exorbitant prices for his [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|crude artwork]] that he was selling on eBay.&lt;br /&gt;
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===September===&lt;br /&gt;
Throughout the summer of 2014, Chris continued to spend thousands of dollars on [[Lego]] and other frivolities, all while whining and complaining on Facebook about his and his mother's poor finances. Chris financed this spending primarily with money from selling custom arts and crafts on his eBay account. Offering free shipping to customers, Chris would receive money from customers, and then pay for shipping out of his own pocket. However, Chris would immediately spend money as soon as it was deposited into his account, often leaving him unable to ship products to customers who had already paid him because of his own financial irresponsibility and negligence. &lt;br /&gt;
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When several of Chris's eBay customers filed complaints against him because Chris failed to ship a order as promised and obligated, Chris responded by harassing and trolling the customers, posting their personal information in a public post on his Facebook account. In light of this, Chris's future money making prospects from eBay are dim, as most prospective future customers probably wouldn't want to risk being harassed or scammed by Chris.&lt;br /&gt;
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All the while, even as Chris's credit card debt continued to spiral out of control, Chris continued to buy thousands of dollars of video games, Lego, and other frivolities. As if this were not bad enough, just days after putting his and Barb's cars up for sale, (at exorbitant prices) Chris went out and bought a 2010 Ford Focus, stating on Facebook that he had been approved for a loan, probably at a high interest rate. &lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also stated that paying for insurance on his new car was &amp;quot;killing&amp;quot; him, implying that either the insurance payment was costly, that he was having trouble paying it, or both. It was commonly speculated on the [[CWCki Forums]] that Chris and his mother would be unable to afford to keep the car and that it would be repossessed in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris placed two cars for sale on Craigslist in September 2014. One was a dilapidated, rusty 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block that hadn't run in over a year. Despite having a market value (as scrap) of approximately $150, Chris demanded $5,000 for the automobile, insisting that the cracked engine block made the car a great [[Chris and reality|&amp;quot;fixer upper.&amp;quot;]] Chris also placed his mother's BMW Z3 for sale, demanding $15,000 for a car that had a book value of approximately $3,000. &lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout 2014, Chris continued his foolish behaviors of maxing out all his available credit, paying only the minimums on all his loans/debts, immediately spending money as soon as he got it, and making large, impulse purchases on unrealistic assumptions of future sales and income from various sources. (eBay, car sales, etc) Evidently, even after years of financial hardship, being burdened with debt, and paying a cumulative total of thousands of dollars in interest, Chris has apparently learned nothing about handling his personal finances, and refuses to try to live within the means provided to him by his monthly tugboat.&lt;br /&gt;
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One dreads to imagine how his financial incompetence will affect him once Barb is dead - knowing Chris, and while it is quite tragic, he'll probably continue in his destructive spending patterns until he loses everything he has, and even then, he'll [[Ego|learn nothing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==2016==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Financhu Crisis}}&lt;br /&gt;
In 2016, Chris's e-begging drastically increased, as a result of the Chandlers' stubborn refusal to live within their means. This year saw Chris spend over $1,000 on toys, while both Chris and Barb had court cases resolved which penalized them with steep costs.  In addition, Barb joined in to the begging, appearing in three videos so far.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also lost his Etsy shop, started nine months prior in 2015, leaving him without a revenue stream outside of the tugboat. In July, Chris decided to sell some of his possessions on eBay and continue to offer video messages, arranged through text messages instead of the defunct Etsy shop, for $50 each.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the comic==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|250px|[[CWCville]] currency.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]] it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris in real life. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the [[United States of America|American]] populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two-story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|&amp;quot;paid&amp;quot; in average]] of US$3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 21#Home economics]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19:_Date_Ed_.28Even_Though_the_Idea_Sounds_Dated.29|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually issues its own currency, in the form of C-Quarters and W-Quarters. Ten C-Quarters make up a W-Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word &amp;quot;quarter&amp;quot; means]]. (Our best guess: C-Quarters = US$0.25, W-Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in U.S. dollars: perhaps to bolster the dictatorship's foreign currency reserves, ''à la'' [[Wikipedia:North Korea|North Korea]].&lt;br /&gt;
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This makes even less sense considering [[CWCVille]] is part of the [[United States]]. States, let alone cities, cannot print their own money, despite holding considerable power over their own affairs. The Constitution expressly forbids anyone else other than the federal government from issuing currency. Granted, states have historically issued their own money - when they were colonies and during difficult times, such as the Revolutionary War. [[Chris]] being Chris, and likely reading [[Goosebumps]] instead of paying attention in class, missed out on this information.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the [[CWCipedia]] article on Sonichu, Chris wrote that [[Rosechu]] is usually the one who cooks for her family, but when Sonichu cooks for his wife and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|kids]] he &amp;quot;will go as HIGH in portions as a Banquet&amp;quot;, even though he only cooks for five individuals.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;gt;[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Married Life and Children Sonichu]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This suggest that Sonichu is just as frivolous with money as his father.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Soup hotels===&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American [[Wikipedia:Social Security (United States)|Social Security]] system if he was left in charge of it in a text called &amp;quot;[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]].&amp;quot; This is where the idea of &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; came from.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels.|Chris with a very bad idea [http://leoweekly.com/news/left-wayside that has come to fruition in one American city...]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris depicts &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; as buildings ten stories tall with between ten and twenty rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, beds, lighting and cable television.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 20#This still implies that CWCville has a massive homeless problem]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, the homeless stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in [[CWCville]], there are around 1,500 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and a bevy of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that [[CWCville]] has had to open at least seven new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things. Or more tellingly, that the economy of CWCville is crashing to the ground, fast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In other works==&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris loses his mind|Mailbag 29]] he stated that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp, pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free [[Dating education|Sex Ed classes]] for [[virgin]]s. &lt;br /&gt;
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In real life, according to Chris, he tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. The prostitute hung up on him according to him.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late [[October 2011]], Chris posted a Craigslist ad for a 12-year old 32&amp;quot; CRT television and expected a non-negotiable $250 for it;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Craigslist#Television]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in reality, this is about the price of a new flatscreen HDTV of that size, and he would be lucky to get a tenth of his asking price.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also proves us that, in the possibility of being part of a family, he wouldn't be the main purveyor. In the [[PlayingHouse]] video, his [[sweetheart]] of [[Jackie|the moment]] is portrayed as a successful journalist with high ambitions while he's a [[14 Branchland Court|stay at home]] Dad. Even then, he portrays himself doing &amp;quot;hard work&amp;quot; like [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|changing diapers]] and watching over the kids. In this last role, he's so incompetent that he needs to recruit his [[Crystal|preschool daughter]] to watch over [[Reginald Chandler|his son]] while he's shopping. This is paralleled by his real life situation - with [[Bob]] gone, one would assume that he'd be the &amp;quot;man of the house&amp;quot; and assume some responsibility for once. Unfortunately, as evidenced by his [[This is how the Trial went|admission in court,]] Barb is still pulling his ass out of any such concept by paying his court fees. Keep in mind that, by extension, Chris is being minded by an ailing woman's retirement money which was used to bail him out of a mess that ''he'' started, while he wastes his own money on meaningless frivolities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== On TV ==&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chris Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, ''à-la'' the season premieres of [[wikipedia:24 (TV Series)|''24'']]. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conclusion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given Chris's carefree abandon when it comes to his spending habits, many are actually concerned as to what will happen to Chris when Barb passes on and he has to fend for himself. If past (and present) experiences are any indication, it's that if Chris continues on his path of not saving his money and spending it on frivolous crap that he doesn't need, he'll wind up broke and in severe debt. A [[Mumble_4|past conversation]] with [[Clyde Cash]] revealed that he doesn't even know the basic expenses that go into running a household, and we all know how Chris's plan of [[PlayingHouse|marrying a sweetheart to dump all of the financial responsibilities on her]] will [[Sweetheart#Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?|turn out.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Long story short, if Chris doesn't start saving for his future now, then when Barb finally passes on, he won't have one to look forward to. And he'll have nobody to blame but himself. ''(Not that he won't try, of course.)''&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Monthly tugboat]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Financhu Crisis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Eat less [[/cow/|cow]] meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and [[Fanta|Fruit]] are a must; [[A Hike|Walking]] or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|[[Chris]]'s [[Chris and Hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|Chris in a few years.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris, as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine can plainly see, is not in good '''health'''. Considering his [[obesity]], [[Power|lack of exercise]], [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|poor nutrition]], [[ShowerClean|refusal to bathe]], and [[Tour of Chris's House|the grave uncleanliness]] of [[Rental House|his]] [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life-threatening medical problems such as cancer, type 2 diabetes, [[Wikipedia:Atherosclerosis|atherosclerosis]], and possibly a premature [[Death|death]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Nutrition==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Obesity}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|left|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of the word.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily, including ones mixed with [[Navy|a special ingredient]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris is a known fast food lover, eating either [[McDonald's]] or [[Burger King]] at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti in a YouTube video--an incredibly basic dish, mind you--he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[SpaghettiRoutine]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. This suggests that Chris never drinks water and that he drinks a lot of [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to increase erratic behavior&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naturalnews.com/042974_soda_consumption_brain_function_hyperactivity.html|Natural News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;). His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Breakfast:''' Often nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but on the rare occasion he does, he travels to McDonald's or another fast food restaurant with a breakfast menu.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Lunch:''' Something quick at home or fast food.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Dinner:''' Dine out at a fast food place with family, or have a poorly-cooked microwave meal.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, it is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal incontinence]] (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff]] [[Homos#Evidence that Chris might be gay|in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Wikipedia:Fecal_incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; casually, it happens that Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how many years.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Kacey Call 7]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, Chris is a fatty, yet he denies it, and his food makes him shit himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems that his diet has finally caught up with him, as it was revealed in the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. Chris claims that he stopped taking the drug in the fall of [[2009]], but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Places where Chris likes to eat===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Country Cookin]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[McDonald's]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Golden Corral]] (has closed its doors in Charlottesville)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Chick-fil-A]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Semen|Bedroom]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Burger King]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Exercise==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cwcstrongman.JPG|thumb|[[I AM STRONG]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and [[Power]]ful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[vidya]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight has left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room, while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].&lt;br /&gt;
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When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Needless to say, Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa the Rapper'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere 30 seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors. Despite this, in [[WelcometoBollywood]] he is capable of dancing in place for over 7 minutes. Whether or not he did this with the magic of jump cuts remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to flexing and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting boxes of Minute Maid lemonade and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could've defeated both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should've it to came to blows, and as such had challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is. He's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWCFighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to [[I Got A Fish|get his wish]] and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog 5 miles (8 kilometers) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take 6 breaks to catch his breath, whereas a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hygiene==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21 http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|&amp;quot;Did you bathe?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;No&amp;quot;]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris [[Mass debating|marinates in his own filth]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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As quoted above, Chris claims to bathe on a daily basis. However, his propensity to lie and reports from people who have interacted with him suggest otherwise. According to [[Emily]], he reeked of &amp;quot;rotten watermelons&amp;quot;; [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said &amp;quot;body odor masked with gallons of Axe&amp;quot;. In fact, it might be that Chris regards [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In an [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_10 ad] Chris made for ''[[Sonichu 2|Sonichu #2]]'' [[Rosechu]] tells [[Sonichu]] that he smells good, and asks him if he bathed, like it's some kind of event. Sonichu replies that he used Axe instead, suggesting that Chris believes that using Axe is an acceptable substitute for a shower or bath.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Rosechu seems to confirm this belief, as upon being told of the Axe usage she makes an awful attempt at suggestive wordplay, suggesting both that using Axe makes Sonichu clean enough for sex and that cheap deodorant has an aphrodisiac effect on Rosechu.&lt;br /&gt;
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It would appear that Chris compounds this hygiene problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for several days in a row.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A particularly good example is the series of videos starting with [[12 January 2010]] and ending with [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]. The videos in question were shot between 12-15 [[January 2010]], and in all of them Chris wears the same shirt.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It may be that Chris just gets into &amp;quot;nice&amp;quot; clothing to make his videos and as such doesn't get them dirty, allowing for him to use the same ones repeatedly, although this hygienic habit would be at odds with everything else he does.&lt;br /&gt;
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The condition of his epidermal system is so poor that it's visibly noticeable, even in his [[Chris and cinematography|low quality videos]]. The texture of grease that is probably permanently adhered to his skin creates a disgusting sheen that reflects a significant amount of light. The same goes for his [[hair]], which is in such poor condition that when he allowed it to grow for the [[Tomgirl Pictures]], many strands were clumped together in greasy, sticky locks, looking akin to the long beard of a homeless man. And even when washed, it looks exactly as greasy and unkempt as it did before, as seen in the [[HairDifference]] videos. This neglect will only make his hair fall out even faster than it already is.&lt;br /&gt;
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This lack of cleanliness, combined with the state of his [[Chris's Room|room]] where he spends almost all his time, means that Chris and his surroundings must smell absolutely ''disgusting''. Chris evidently simply tolerates the horrible odours, perhaps not noticing them anymore. It may be that he has an abnormally weak or insensitive sense of smell; few other things would allow for such living conditions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[The GAMe PLACe]] (doubtlessly offending his victorious opponents) and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he kept a bottle on hand at all times. Additionally, Mimms and Lucas said in their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A|Q&amp;amp;A session]] that Chris didn't have any noticeable BO during his time at the GAMe PLACe, suggesting that his odor problems have become more severe in recent years. [[BlueSpike]] also mentions Chris's usage of hand sanitizer throughout [[Julie Reveals Herself]].&lt;br /&gt;
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One day in September 2014, Chris decided to give himself [[Un-clit|a piercing on his perineum]]. Piercings require constant disinfection while they heal, anywhere on the body, even for very clean people, and so many trolls were concerned that considering Chris's general filthiness and the fact that the location of the piercing would receive very little air, an infection was certain to occur. Sure enough, in December, he shared another picture of this piercing which showed that it had not only migrated (''tearing the skin'' in the process), but had become infected as well. Making lemonade out of lemons, Chris (now in the throes of his transwoman fantasy) noted with pride the tear's semblance to a [[China|vagina]] and actually got it re-pierced, without giving the original wound any longer than about a week to heal. This was extremely unwise; a re-infection was all but guaranteed and such a thing can lead to extreme pain or even death. Fortunately, Chris gave up on it after it became clear (to him, anyway) that a bad infection was inevitable, and removed it for good before any serious harm was done.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[July 2016]], Chris revealed on Facebook he believed he had finally grown a [[china]], the apparent result of watching [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos. Except it's not a &amp;quot;vagina&amp;quot;--because Chris did a shoddy job at keeping the wounds from the piercing clean and able to heal (albeit a very hard-to-reach area, and one that often comes into contact with [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|crap]]), the wounds reopened and formed an abscess. Chris is not worried at all about the possibilities of his abscess becoming gangrenous and being at the risk of septic shock as the infection reaches his bloodstream.&lt;br /&gt;
{{clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Living conditions==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ebay violin photo - 22 Jun 2014 - 1.jpg|thumb|Only half a year in and already an inhuman cesspool; quite the accomplishment.]]&lt;br /&gt;
''Main article: [[14 Branchland Court]], [[Rental House]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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Simply put, Chris has spent many years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. The photographs and videos of 14 Branchland Court that he has so unwisely shared with the world showcased to us his filthy bathtub, as well as what appeared to be overflowing bins that looked more like mounds of trash, a kitchen sink overflowing with unwashed plates and cutlery, and even an instance of Chris [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|slipping on cat shit]]. Trolls also managed to [[Rocky Shoemaker call|extract]] from [[Rocky Shoemaker]] that the house was suffering some sort of infestation, which led to [[Bob]] being quarantined after being brought to hospital, and Chris being confined to his room to avoid being bitten. When Chris's last video of the house emerged in the months before the [[Destruction of Chris's House|fire]], it was revealed that the problem had only gotten worse since Bob's passing, with whole rooms literally rendered inaccessible, and some filled almost to the ceiling with items [[Barb]] had hoarded, and with various other rooms reduced to crevices carved into Barb's mountains of junk.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even after the fire, Chris and Barb have seemingly not amended their habits, as far as housekeeping goes. Photographs of the rental house revealed a steadily growing number of [[Lego]] boxes strewn around, as well as something much more alarming; when Chris was taking photographs of his merchandise for [[eBay]], he inadvertently photographed rat faeces on the carpet as well. When [[Trolls|concerned customers]] pointed this out Chris [[Chris and reality|flatly denied it]], even though [[Honor roll|he had given them photographic proof to the contrary]]. Moreover, after [[Catherine]] visited in [[August 2014]], she recalled seeing junk &amp;quot;piled up to the ceiling&amp;quot; and the dogs not being housebroken and allowed to urinate and defecate in piles of newspaper on the floor. While Chris and Barb returned to the renovated 14 Branchland Court in [[January 2015]], one can only imagine the reaction of the landlord to the state in which they left the house, which, as of [[April 2015]], was still vacant, probably due to the mess they made.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vision==&lt;br /&gt;
As evidenced by his oversized, [[Pedo-Glasses|aviator-like glasses]], Chris has a vision problem. Judging by pictures of Chris in his youth, it appears that he began wearing glasses around the time he entered high school. The extent of his eyesight problems is anybody's guess. His glasses are often fogged and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|dirty]], thus simultaneously improving and worsening his sight along different feature dimensions. Chris often takes them off when things are [[Stress|&amp;quot;getting serious&amp;quot;]], but keeps them on to [[Chris and English|read]]. This is evident in the video in which he [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_February_10th,_2009|reads a letter from Nintendo]], and in the [[Christian_Weston_Chandler's_FUTURE_MESSAGE|&amp;quot;FUTURE MESSAGE&amp;quot;]] video. &lt;br /&gt;
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One of Chris' relatives, Dr. David Alan Chandler, happens to be an eye doctor whom Chris has seen in the past. The last time Chris was known to have seen him for an appointment was 6 January 2004. &lt;br /&gt;
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Chris's driver's license has a restrictive condition checked, which commonly means that the driver must wear glasses in order to legally drive. Whether his vision contributed to the [[Son-Chu#Car_trouble|numerous vehicular incidents]] he has been involved in has yet to be seen. However, it is a good bet that Chris should be wearing glasses while driving, for the sake of those sharing the road with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dental health==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Fangs}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|right|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Talk about [[honest content]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris's fondness for bearing his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, [[Chris and money|expensive]] dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it is difficult to tell (partly due to Chris's [[Chris and cinematography|awful camerawork]]), in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is likely the result of large consumption of [[Fanta|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and his refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]]. He seems to be unwilling to brush his teeth, or at least chew some [[Brand loyalty|Orbit gum]].&lt;br /&gt;
{{clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mental health==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Chris and psychology|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto). &lt;br /&gt;
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The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch—he is incapable of advancing mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics. For over 6 years, he has been led on by various trolls pretending to be [[Sweetheart|young white women]] [[Chris and reality|who are interested in a relationship with him]], and yet he still falls for it time after time. It is Chris's refusal to listen or learn that ensures that he will continue to live in [[Naive|ignorance]], isolation and misery, and until he decides to change, it always will, irrespective of whether his trolls stay interested in him.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was once thought possible that Chris didn't feel like his life had truly begun, that he was still in the &amp;quot;pre-adult&amp;quot; years — because he remained a [[Virgin with rage|virgin]] into his early 30's, and judging by his [[Autism|oversimplified, black-and-white view of the world]] [[The Adventures of the American Rabbit|tainted]] [[Video games|by]] [[Chris and reality|fiction]] [[Chris and television|and]] [[Chris and brand loyalty|media messages]], [[Chris and sex#Chris and gender|treatment of women]] and [[Chris and sex|stunted understanding of sexual relationships]], because he saw sex not as a biological or recreational function, or an expression of love, but rather as a rite of passage, of sorts, and he therefore believed that he wasn't able to truly be an adult until he had sex. Chris has lost his virginity, however, and as of yet, has made few to no changes that will tangibly improve his life, in fact he has been plunging himself into debt to buy toys, of all things, as well as a new car. Needless to say, no one expects Chris and Barb to be able to afford to keep the car for long.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internet), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism or the trolls themselves for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[sex toys|dildo]].&lt;br /&gt;
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He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:&lt;br /&gt;
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* His mother would always [[Barbara#Pampering_of_Chris|tell him how &amp;quot;handsome&amp;quot; he was]]. This might simply be [[Barbara]] telling her son what all mothers tell their kids.&lt;br /&gt;
* He has an [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|inability to remember faces]]. For example, during the [[Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_24 ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Some people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the July 2012 [[This_is_how_the_Trial_went|arraignment]] for his and Barbara's actions at the GAMe PLACe [[28_October_2011|the previous fall]], Chris agreed to a plea bargain, avoiding felony charges and jail time in exchange for, among other things, &amp;quot;mandatory psychological treatment and evaluation,&amp;quot; which meant that Chris was forced to undergo legitimate psychiatric treatment (as opposed to simply seeing [[Rocky_Shoemaker|an un-certified pastoral &amp;quot;counselor&amp;quot;]]), or risk being imprisoned. Given that most, if not all of the problems described above persist in some form or another to this day, it seems that Chris reacted to psychiatric treatment in much the same way he reacted to the education system, as it seems that, whatever his psychiatrist said, he took none of it in, probably taking out his [[Ego|anger at being forced to obey the law]] on the psychiatrist by simply refusing to co-operate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another mental factor that has affected Chris's overall health is [[stress]]. In August 2013, Chris indicated that the stress he's endured has begun to affect his health, citing a symptom of high blood pressure. It seems pretty likely, especially if you take into account Chris's other problems above.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexual health==&lt;br /&gt;
Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyronie%27s_disease Peyronie's disease] or the result of engaging in dangerous prone masturbation), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive and Chris has other, [[Video games|more]] [[Toys|important]] [[Sex toys|things]] on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.&lt;br /&gt;
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In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Jackie e-mails]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He didn't have any; [[Virgin|you can probably guess why]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other deformities==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|&amp;quot;My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].&lt;br /&gt;
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His voice is also a very [[speech Impediment|severe deformity]], ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[Asperger's syndrome]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone. In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal and even deeper than later years, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction; such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. With enough isolation, this will most likely become permanent.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Autism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obesity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Chris and}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Mass_debating&amp;diff=200889</id>
		<title>Mass debating</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Mass_debating&amp;diff=200889"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T17:31:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Discovery */ clarification of his face down technique&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Honest}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|I've actually done it to myself so many times, even with a hunk of- even with [[Kimmi|an inflatable plastic woman]] ''[...]'' I've done it so much, it's like, you know, I can't even feel that much of a rush from it, doing it to myself like that ''[...]'' It's like, you know, my body got used to it|Chris to [[Kacey]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Kacey Call 7]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Mass debating''' is the way Chris [[Chris and English|pronounces]] &amp;quot;masturbating&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Discovery==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ILikeToPlayGamesToo.jpg|thumb|[[Family Guy|That turn you on?]] Now, imagine Chris fapping to this.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on a PSN chat with [[PandaHalo]] and [[Chris_Chat_27_December_2008#Transcript|an IRC chat]], Chris did not discover masturbation until age 16:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|actually figured it out for myself, in my room one night after having unlocked the parental lock; I found the pool scene in &amp;quot;[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210112/ I Like to Play Games Too]&amp;quot;, and I just figured it out for myself.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When he first started mass debating, he did so by lying face down on his bed (also known as prone masturbation) and rubbing his [[duck]] with a washcloth.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;BlueSpike PSN Chat 3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3|BlueSpike PSN Chat III]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In early 2009 he would sit on the bathroom washbasin during the act.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;BlueSpike PSN Chat 3&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; In [[Ivy Q&amp;amp;A#Comics|Ivy's Q&amp;amp;A]] it was mentioned that Chris has used his pillow, folded in half, as a masturbation tool.&lt;br /&gt;
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He has informed [[Barbera Chandler|his mother]] of his masturbation habit.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;BlueSpike PSN Chat 3&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Frequency==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|And to keep myself from flying crazily off the handle at a random time, I keep my hormones in check at least twice a week by myself.|Chris, using mass debating.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Chris-chan/Megan_Saga Chris's MySpace blog, via ED.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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While it is assumed by many that Chris has a voracious sex drive and spends everyday whacking it, the [[TRUE and HONEST|truth]] is quite different. Rather, Chris has admitted to whacking off at least twice per week (based on chats{{cite}}, it seems that he limits it to twice). Possible factors for this include the fact that he has a bent [[duck]] which would most likely make masturbation painful, and he probably struggles to get/maintain an erection owing to his [[obesity]] and general poor [[health]]. The sex audio with [[Julie]] seems to indicate that it takes Chris around 20 minutes to orgasm, which means that masturbation for Chris must be physically exhausting. Chris also believes that he has a limited sperm count which may have him limit his sexual activity. Also, Chris was at one point prescribed the antidepressant paroxetine (Paxil), which (from what was heard from him) caused some sort of sexual side effect, perhaps slowing down his ability to orgasm.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris and psychology]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also told [[Kacey]] that he has masturbated so much that it no longer brings him much pleasure. However, this was a misguided ploy for pity sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Kacey Call 7]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris and sex]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Sex Videos]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Walks In]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Semen]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Masturbating and squirtin']]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CWC Cums for a Cat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{CWC-isms}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Love quest}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:CWC-isms]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_Cums_for_a_Cat&amp;diff=200888</id>
		<title>CWC Cums for a Cat</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_Cums_for_a_Cat&amp;diff=200888"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T17:29:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: Clarified his duck damage&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{honest}}&lt;br /&gt;
'''CWC Cums for a Cat''' is an audio recording of a furry phone sex session between [[Chris]] and [[Julie]]. Only Chris's side of the conversation can be heard, but Chris seems to be taking on the persona of a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] while Julie takes on the form of a cat. [[Chandler cats|Lucy]] walks into the room and interrupts the [[mass debating]]. Given how long it took him to finish, he needed all the help he could get.&lt;br /&gt;
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This audio gives enough evidence to show that Chris has sexual issues. It takes him nearly 20 minutes to climax, this is likely due to complications from engaging in prone [[mass debating]] (with a wash cloth no less) and his orgasms and phrases sound more like he is constipated than anything. Also, if one takes into account that he is clearly heard using his [[fapcup]] as he mass debates and is heard opening up a [[Fanta|soda can]] at the end, Chris most likely is [[recycling]] in this audio.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Highlights==&lt;br /&gt;
*Women apparently derive great pleasure from having their genitals electrocuted.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris has a lactation fetish.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris thinks making nipple-sucking sound effects, inserting [[random-access humor]], and forcing groans like a porn star intensify the mood.&lt;br /&gt;
*Just like belching after a meal is considered a compliment in some cultures, belching after sex is what a true [[La Cocina en La Casa de Casanova|Casanova]] does to express appreciation for their partner's efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Listen==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Infobox/Audiofile&lt;br /&gt;
| name           =  CWC Cums for a Cat &lt;br /&gt;
| audio          = {{#ev:youtube|HO6KhLXGrME}}&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = {{Sex|[[Mass debating|Mass Debation]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Stardate       = 13 [[February 2009]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Featuring      = [[Chris]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Saga           = {{Julie|text}}&lt;br /&gt;
| previous       = [[Mumble 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next           = [[Mumble 7]]&lt;br /&gt;
}} &amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chris-CatBurp.PNG|200px|thumb|Might say I'm burpin', because uh I quite enjoyed you.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''[A television or a radio is playing in the background throughout the recording]''&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Julie!&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, at least you can hear me, that's good.&lt;br /&gt;
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Uhhh, yuh let me think about that, I'll give you a s-I'll give you a...setting. Uhhh. Mmmm. Okay, you want do you want to 'kay you want to try fantasy. Ummm. How 'bout. All right, I'll do my best uhhh in the fantasy. Umm. Okay yeah.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[Chris makes two strained noises with his mouth that are supposed to simulate thunderbolt noises]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PEECHOOM! PEECHOOM! I'll just do a lightning bolt. PEECHOOM! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[breathing noises]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All right so how bou-all right so, how bout this at CWCville beach. At sunset. And it's just the two of us. We're lying on a beach towel.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[Ecstatic]'' Mmmm. All right, we're lookin' into each others eyes. And we feel the romantic emotions and tensions between us. Feels right. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh. Yeah. Oooo. I'm starting to get stiff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Okay. Just we're at the beach, I'm just wearing my...hmmm?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You need someone to make you feel good? Oh. Okay. Yeah. All right, are you uh...so what are you wearing, are you wearing a bikini? Okay, I'm just wearing swim trunks.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, so you basically grab me, with my swim trunks covering it. Okay, yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm reachin' down there and I'm...feeling arou-I'm feeling around down there I'm feeling the edge of your bi-kee-nee. And I'm reach um I reach through the bikini, and I uh start to feel your [[china|pussy]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mmmm. ''[breathing]'' Yeah. PEECHOOM! PEECHOOM! I send a few short static shocks up your up your...pussy. Not enough to hurt you too bad, but make it feel good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, I'm do-I'm givin' that to you with my right hand with my light, my left hand, I'm uh, movin' your top.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[in a French accent]'' I'M HUMAN AND NOT A BEAST! After I move your top, I massage your right breast.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[no longer speaking in an accent]'' Mmm. So bas-so basically I'm massaging your right breast and and my left hand, and I got my right hand in your pussy givin' a few givin' you a few shocks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mmm. Well what are you doin' to ME. At this point. As you reach in my swim trunks?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, yeah. So, describe to me how you're rubbin' me there. Or my case are you pullin' it out of me? Oh, yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah. ''[pause]'' Mmmm. ''[pause]'' Wow. ''[pleasing exhale]'' Okay. I make a pounce I make a pounce at you while you're...I make a pounce at you. Wh-we-we're like rolling along the beach a bit.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oooh. Yeah, I think I'm gonna end up on top this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mmm. So you so you still want to rub my dick, or do you want it inside you?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, yeah, there ya go. And it's in there. I'm using my free hands to...massage your breasts! What are you doin' with your hands?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, yeah. ''[breathing]'' Oh, yeah. Mmm. ''[Chris makes licking or suckling sounds]'' Right, and I'm humping and I'm pushing myself in and out as you kiss my, as you kiss me all over my face.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That's all right, I've got some fur on me too. As long as you don't mind, eh, ''[slyly]'' ''static''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right, I'll, I'm going in and out. In and out. I grad-I start slow and then I gradually go a little faster.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah. We both feel good. Uhnn. Mmm, yeah. As I push your face I'm pushing myself in and out for and I have to move my face up a bit, 'cause it's feeling good for me. Oh.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh! Okay. I'll massage your right breast in my left hand, and I'll suck your n-suck your n-left nipple. Mmmm. ''[Chris makes suckling noises with his mouth]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And I'm just humpin' you with...with GOOD SPEED. I SUCK YOUR TEAT. Mmm, it's tasty. ''[childlike]'' It verrah tay-tee. Yeah. Mmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All right your turn, what do you want do now? All right, you roll me over. I'm still inside you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Aw, yeah. Oh, yeah. ''[breathing]'' Oh, yeah. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[Chris's [[Chandler cats|cat Lucy]] wanders into the room]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[mumbling]'' Oh, hang on a second. ''[to Lucy]'' Lucy get outta here. Lucy, out. Lucy, out. Go on, shoo. Shoo. ''[background noises indicate Chris is getting the cat out of the room, sits back down]'' Mmm. Yeah, that's.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh. Your head can bend down that far. Mmm, which one you lickin' the one that the milk came out of over there? Mmm. Aw, yeah. All right now, caress your sweet breast in my with my left hand. And I'm caressing your le-your left butt cheek with my right hand.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You mean the one I'm massaging now? You mean the one the milk hasn't come out of? Yeah. Yep. ''[Chris makes suckling noises]'' Gulp, mmm. ''[suckling more]'' Oh, yeah that feels good. MMM. Mmm. ''[continues to make suckling noises]'' Mmm. Mmm. Ooh. Oh, yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're gonna get MY milk, kitty-cat!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[Chris moans repeatedly for almost a minute]'' Oh Julie. Oh. OOOHH, JULIE JULIE! JULIE! ''[Chris continues to moan, the sound of him fapping into a plastic cup can now be heard]'' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are you about there? Are you about the-oh, ooooh. OH YEAH. OH. Uh. Oh. Unnnnngh. Oh yeah, oh yeah...mmm. It's coming, it's coming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[''More fapping and panting''] AAAGLGARAOGH, yeah! [''more fapping and panting''] Mmm. [''knocks over can, picks it up, resumes fapping'']&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[''Windows beep''] I'll lean up to lick it. Ohhh, I'm gettin' there myself, mmm. Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[''More heavy breathing and fapping''] I'm like you doin'(?), I'm not done yet. [''strains, grunts, moans''] Oh-ooo-oh-ooo-oh-ooo-ohhhhh.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ut, here I come, here it comes, nnnngggh...[''Chris finally orgasms''] LLLLLLLAAAAAAGGGHHH! AAAAAGH! AAAAGH! AAAAGH! OH! UH! OOOH! Mmm, aaah. Oh-ah. Oh-ah. Uh-ah. Ugh. Ugh.'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yep. You got a lot. Mmm. Aaah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After you get here and you can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mmm. Go ahead and lick me clean. ''[Windows beep]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mmm. Aahh. Mmm. That was good. Yeah. Mmm. Maybe. Uhh. No, I s-sure I would have my [[Monty Python|British comedy]] tomorrow. Maybe Sunday. It's all right though. At least you'll have me again. Excuse me a moment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''[sound of Chris getting up, followed by water running, sound of Chris returning and knocking over a bunch of stuff]'' All right, mmm. ''[A pop can is opened; Chris takes a huge drink, gasps, licks lips, and belches]'' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'Scuse me. Might say I'm burpin', because uh I quite enjoyed you. And your juices. ''[More panting]'' Mmm. Mmm. Aaah. That sounds good. Hang on, I'm going to hang up here. ''[audio ends]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{FanChats}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Julie Saga]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=200871</id>
		<title>User:ISP</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=200871"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T02:34:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible autistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=200870</id>
		<title>User:ISP</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=200870"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T02:33:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: Added a quote and rejiggered some stuff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{quote|I hope that if you actually took the time to read this, you will see that the hatred for CWC is little more than an attempt to marginalize one of the greatest concepts of our time. His outbursts, though not classy, are not unfounded. Heck, Ben Franklin literally said that, &amp;quot;True and unfashioned freedoms..&amp;quot; were bigger than Jesus; if that's not not hubris I don't know what is. Both Franklin and CWC are icons and (in a way) artists who have changed this world forever. Just because you haven't taken the time to see further than your limited frame-of-reference by no means makes CWC a bad guy or a failed manchild. He is God sent, and full to the brim of potential talent. This new era will undoubtedly bring another wave of incredible artistry.}}&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=200869</id>
		<title>User:ISP</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User:ISP&amp;diff=200869"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T02:30:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Hello World */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luffe&amp;diff=200867</id>
		<title>User talk:Luffe</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luffe&amp;diff=200867"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T02:09:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Hello You ==&lt;br /&gt;
You're special AND worthwhile. Know that you are well liked by many =-}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:09, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luffe&amp;diff=200866</id>
		<title>User talk:Luffe</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luffe&amp;diff=200866"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T02:09:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Hello You ==&lt;br /&gt;
You're special AND worthwhile. Know that you are well lijed by many =-}&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:09, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luffe&amp;diff=200865</id>
		<title>User talk:Luffe</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luffe&amp;diff=200865"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T02:08:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: Hi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;You're special AND worthwhile. Know that you are well lijed by many =-}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ISP</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Duck&amp;diff=200863</id>
		<title>Duck</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Duck&amp;diff=200863"/>
		<updated>2016-09-11T02:05:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: Clarified his duck damage&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Honest}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SchuComicSP3P5.jpg|thumb|right|Chris and his duck in the comics. Traced for authenticity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Ivy Q&amp;amp;A#Comics]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;position:fixed; bottom:0; right:0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Image:Duck_edited.jpg|right|200px]]&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|ChrisChanSonichu (12:20:19 AM): sorry, it is limp.|Chris, on his duck.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Vanessa IRC Chat 3]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|MY DUCK HUNGERS FOR [[china|TOM-TOM]] TO POUND!!!!!|Chris, [[I Am The TRUE, Original Christopher Christian Weston Chandler; No Ifs, Ands or Buts]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
'''Duck''' is a [[CWC-ism]] for penis, usually in the context of [[Chris]]'s own penis. (The genitalia of other [[JERKS|males]], and [[Silvana|those of Rosechus]], are [[pickles]].) This neologism was originally thought to be a misspelling of &amp;quot;dick&amp;quot;, but Chris confirmed in a 17 [[February 2009]] [[Mumble]] chat that it is an intentional euphemism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mumble 8]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chris and his duck==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Loch Ness.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Indeed a monster.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BentDuck.jpg|thumb|right|Another example of a bent duck]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Did I not just tell you I am Seven Inches Long?! It is soo long, that I am literally able to stretch it Under my taint, and tuck it between my own ass cheeks, beyond my ass hole. With help, I can literally even shove the head of the Ugly Growth Up Mine!|Chris, displaying his love-hate relationship with his penis to [[Colin]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris's circumcised penis is bent at a [[Nudes|horrifying 45° angle]], though he has never clearly explained why. Some speculate that Chris has [[Wikipedia:Peyronie's disease|Peyronie's disease]], or that he did it to himself by engaging in prone [[mass debating]], resulting in what's known medically as a [[Wikipedia:Fractured penis|fractured penis]]. It may also have been a botched circumcision, although this is unlikely. Further damage could have resulted from when Chris [[Cwcsicle|stuck his duck in the ice]] for 15 minutes trying to imitate Jackass.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris proudly claims his penis is six inches (15 cm) long.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris humps his PS3]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He even [[List_of_Christian's_edits_to_the_CWCki#8_May.2C_03:09_-_03:16|edited]] the CWCki at one point to remove a bit of piping that suggested otherwise. In spite of this, [[Nudes|visual evidence]] suggests it is at least an inch shorter (five inches being closer to the average size), and Chris [[Obesity|readily lies]] about the dimensions of his body. &lt;br /&gt;
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Chris at least concedes that his penis is of no more than average size, which is a source of some insecurity for him. In [[:File:Evan_responds_to_his_death.png|an e-mail]] to [[Evan]] during their feud over [[Simonla Rosechu]], he took off on a peculiar tangent about penis length: &amp;quot;There ARE those with dicks longer than 7 inches; yes I am jealous of those individuals, not just you.&amp;quot; In [[Kacey Call 11]], Chris asked Kacey for details as to the size of Liquid Chris's penis and expressed regret that his own was not as large. He once attempted to enlarge it with [[Wikipedia:ExtenZe|ExtenZe]], a supplement advertised to enlarge penises, but he said it didn't work.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mumble 8]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Toward the very end of his [[Jackie E-mails 23|communications with Jackie]], Chris claimed that his penis has grown larger and straightened itself out since it was last photographed for public consumption. Determining the likelihood of this occurrence will be left as an exercise for the reader. At any rate, this claim was disproven in the [[Tomgirl Pictures|Tomgirl]] [[:File:TG20.jpg|images]], leaked in [[April 2011]], wherein his penis is still visibly bent and the same size it always was.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many of his nude photos show that Chris shaves most of his [[Wikipedia:pubic hair|pubic hair]]. While this sometimes has the effect of making the penis seem more prominent, in Chris's case, it just draws attention to the abundant pubic fat surrounding his genitalia. This can not be described as an attractive effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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When he announced the alleged loss of his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] on [[Facebook]], Chris claimed his sex partner praised his duck for its size. This sex partner was later confirmed to be a [[Mia Hamm|prostitute]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Other_documents#Chris.27s_wingman]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; so while it is likely that she said it, its sincerity was dubious to say the least.&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems that, as of 2014, Chris [[Un-clit|now actively ''despises'' his own duck]] in the wake of his coming out as &amp;quot;Tomgirl, Intersex of Female Soul with Male Body, and a Tranny Cross-Dresser&amp;quot;. It is common for (legitimate) transsexuals to detest their own genitalia, which they perceive as incorrect, and in fact, he even uses a homemade device to hold it in. However, the fact that Chris loathes ALL penises is more indicative of issues with his sexuality than with his gender.&lt;br /&gt;
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Coincidentally, real-life ducks are known for their massive, twisted penises.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References by Chris==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:1256079873949.jpg|thumb|Anatomical analysis of the duck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*One of the annotations from [[I Am The TRUE, Original Christopher Christian Weston Chandler; No Ifs, Ands or Buts]] is &amp;quot;MY DUCK HUNGERS FOR TOM-TOM TO POUND!!!!!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*In his final [[SingStar_Challenge#Video_11|SingStar Challenge]] song, &amp;quot;[[SingStar Challenge Round 5|Smell Yo Dick]]&amp;quot; (as chosen by [[CChanSonichuCWC]]), he attempts to [[Chris and hypocrisy|circumvent his own rules]] about not changing lyrics by saying ''duck'' instead of ''dick.''&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris occasionally forgoes substituting the word &amp;quot;duck&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;dick&amp;quot; when he is talking dirty with a gal-pal (such as in one of the [[Kacey]] chats) or angry (in one of the [[White Knight emails]], he referred to how trolls made fanart featuring [[Rosechu]] with &amp;quot;an UNNATURAL, UNREQUIRED, DISGUSTING, DICK!!!!!!!&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*In an [[IRC (24 October 2008)|IRC chat]] from October 2008, Chris said, concerning [[Jimmy Hill]], &amp;quot;I hope he loses his duck.&amp;quot; This is an unusual example of Chris using &amp;quot;duck&amp;quot; to refer to a penis not his own.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Nudes]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Pickle]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Comeuppance]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{CWC-isms}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:CWC-isms]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Physical characteristics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Duck&amp;diff=200862</id>
		<title>Talk:Duck</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Prone Masturbation  */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Judging by the photos, I see a case of Peyronie's disease. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 06:12, 27 April 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It could also be a case of a broken penis; a blunt force injury to an erection.  Judging from what the family finances seem to be, it could be that they just couldn't afford the surgery to fix it.--[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 09:53, 12 May 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe the ExtenZe has something to do with the whacked-out shape?  It might exacerbate the problem at least.  Jesus on the Christ River, that's a horrifying penis. [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 04:30, 1 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can agree to the Peyronie's explanation.  Barbara and Bob were in their 40's and 60's (respectively) when Chris was born.  Having a child at such a late age puts them at risk for a multitude of diseases and disorders.  This could be the cause of the many syndromes and diseases that trols have diagnosed Chris with. --[[User:Howsyourham|Howsyourham]] 19:43, 12 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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A botched circumcision may also lead to a bent penis, among other disfigurements. [[User:V3N0M1300|V3N0M1300]] 06:08, 13 August 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merge==&lt;br /&gt;
I suggest we merge Duck and Pickle into Penis. All of the CWCisms for [[China]] are on the same page. --[[User:Megaman|&amp;lt;font face=&amp;quot;Impact&amp;quot; color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;''Megaman!''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 15:15, 29 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes, they are both terms for penises but they're both distinct as well. Pickle has a rich history and is typically associated to penises drawn on his female characters while duck tends to be in reference to his own genitalia. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 30 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*In other words, it's advisable to keep the two pages separate. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 30 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Furthermore, the case with &amp;quot;china&amp;quot; is that the CWC-isms for &amp;quot;china&amp;quot; are isolated instances (one reference to &amp;quot;vaginatables&amp;quot; and one instance to &amp;quot;tom tom&amp;quot;) that they really don't warrant their own pages. China only gets its own page because of the classic &amp;quot;DYKES DYKES CHINA!&amp;quot; and because it's been discussed in [[Sonichu 8]] that the Rosechu's genitalia is also known as a &amp;quot;china.&amp;quot; The term &amp;quot;pickles&amp;quot; however, has frequent use and Chris seems to have a phobia of even pickles on his food (see episode 2 from [[Sonichu 0]] where Sonichu says how he hates pickles) and the receipt from when he went to visit Julie and ordered his food with no pickles, though he's also used &amp;quot;duck&amp;quot; several times in reference to his own genitalia, such as &amp;quot;MY DUCK HUNGERS FOR TOM-TOM TO POUND!!!!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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:So yeah, they really shouldn't be merged. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:53, 3 August 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does he use the term &amp;quot;duck&amp;quot; in reference to his own &amp;quot;pickle&amp;quot;? It seems that way.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Yeah, it seems that he's used &amp;quot;duck&amp;quot; only in reference to his own penis. That and/or the whole &amp;quot;pickle&amp;quot; meme from trolls (ex. drawing actual pickles on Rosechu) has caused Chris to hate pickles so much, he is afraid of even saying the world. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 30 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pickle and duck have both gained quite some cult-status separately from eachother. They also refer to different things. Also, they are different words in the CWCism-glossary. So I guess it shouldn't be too much of a problem to keep them as two different articles... [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:54, 12 August 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page is getting convaluted==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should probably stop with the extra pictures and quotes until the article is longer. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Duck.jpg ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I propose the removal of Duck.jpg [http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Duck.jpg] because it isn't a fact. The peanut butter on the dick myth arose from a retard on ED [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Talk:Chris-chan/Archive9#CHRIS_.28doesn.27t.29_COVER_HIS_DUCK_IN_PEANUT_BUTTER] who faked a conversation with Chris. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 19:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should be removed but another thing that bugs me about this page is the Pic of Chris bent duck I know this page is meant for it but I just think its a eye sore, so would it be alright if it were put in box like the other pic of Chris's duck on the [[Sex]] page?--[[User:Kota88|Kota88]] 14:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'm pretty sure it already was on the Sex page, but I had it removed from there already (See the talk page, my old username was Thelieisacake). Based on the discussion we had there, I think it's safe to say that nobody will complain if it's removed from here as well. I'll do it now. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Still relevant? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Has Chris even said 'duck' since [[Julie]]? - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 05:52, 9 December 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[SingStar_Challenge_Round_5#IBAChandler.27s_Initial_Entry|Yes]].  But even if he never says it again, we'd still need an article for it, right?[[User:Dethchemist77|Dethchemist77]] 09:03, 9 December 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==For fuck's sake.==&lt;br /&gt;
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The image at the corner of the page is pretty funny yeah, but what bright spark used a non-transparent version that covers up most of what's on that side of the page? Can someone fix this? I'd do it myself but I'd break the page. [[User:MonocleClaire|MonocleClaire]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gallery? ==&lt;br /&gt;
As disgusting as it is, I think this page needs moar images of our infamous hero's cream horn, to give it's viewers moar of an idea of what it looks like. Normally, I would just go ahead and add it, but it seemed like a controversial move to me. - [[User:Sonichufork|Sonichu Fork]] 13:34, 22 July 2012 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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WHile i understand your pov, i think that information is widely available here http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Sex_tape [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:34, 24 July 2012 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What do you mean &amp;quot;Incomplete&amp;quot;? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not understand how the first section is incomplete. What more could possibly be said in the opening summary? Shouldn't that template be removed, or is it just me?--[[User:TRUEandHONESTuser|TRUEandHONESTuser]] ([[User talk:TRUEandHONESTuser|talk]]) 07:29, 1 January 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sometimes people post this template at the top of the page when they mean to indicate a particular section farther down the page. But I am also confused about what is &amp;quot;incomplete.&amp;quot; The person who placed the template should have left an explanation. -asperhes, 1/14/15&lt;br /&gt;
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== Prone Masturbation  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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His duck bending is likely a result of his prone masturbation&lt;br /&gt;
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See: http://www.healthystrokes.com/&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 02:01, 11 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User:ISP</title>
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		<updated>2016-09-10T23:31:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greetings fellow traveler it is fortuitous that we should meet, here of all places. I wish you well on your Own Quest for you assuredly wish me well on my Own Quest. Do you not? We are gathered here today to celebrate the life and times of Christopher and his magical journeys. I have watched from afar for many a year as the story unfolds and feel the pangs in my heart of love for this Gentle Giant. Do you as well? Surely you do. Let us Greet and Meet here now as we come together in Love and Harmony.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slurp1.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User:ISP</title>
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		<updated>2016-09-10T23:25:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote| Life is like a crime scene, here on Tumblr  &lt;br /&gt;
Rad-fems, betas, furry fucks, it's a cuck blur  &lt;br /&gt;
Might solve a mystery, or rewrite history!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When it's seems we're headed for the final curtain  &lt;br /&gt;
Bold victimization never fails, that's for certain  &lt;br /&gt;
The worst of memes become our dreams!   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R-R-Rapers lurk behind you   &lt;br /&gt;
There's a stranger out to find you  &lt;br /&gt;
What to do? just grab on to some  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Everyday they're out there making,   &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
Tales of daring-do bad and good  &lt;br /&gt;
Cuck Tales (woo oo)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not equal rights or even fair fights  &lt;br /&gt;
No, Cuck Tales (woo oo)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hello World ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Hello World ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: Created page with &amp;quot;Hello world.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hello world.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tomboys_And_Tomgirls_of_Virginia&amp;diff=200853</id>
		<title>Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ISP: /* Was this all an trap? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I think this needs further wikifying, and we need to update other pages accordingly to reference this. This forum contains the use of several CWC-isms we haven't seen for a while, and it also makes the first reference to Dating Education or Chris's parents since GodJesus knows when. I also need to ask whether or not an &amp;quot;analysis&amp;quot; section summarising everything we learned about Chris from this would be overdoing it or not? Just something about the footnotes style of things like the google search information stuck between posts just makes the page seem messy to me. Also, whoever it was who came up with this forum and set it up, I will personally fly over to wherever you live and give you a blowjob for this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:51, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be presumptuous to say this could be a troll? Was there any conclusive evidence that it's not babby's first &amp;quot;Lol if I copy Chris' mannerisms then I can be epin&amp;quot;? Consider: less sporadic Use of Capital Letters, being as blatant as possible without screaming &amp;quot;I'M CHRIS&amp;quot; and no corroborating evidence to suggest it's him. Barring chats with *redacted* being released (if only) or the Dilluminati confirming I would take this with a grain of salt.  [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 07:59, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Maybe Chris is *gasp* CHANGING. Seriously, this is Chris. I don't tolerate fake shit on the CWCki. As much as PVCC would like to, I would not allow them to post something from Chris unless it actually was (and this is actually from Chris). Seriously, you people who think that someone is Chris just because they have a similar name to a user name is Chris, yet something that actually with Chris arouses skepticism. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:49, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* *snipped* [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:38, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sir I am both shocked ''and'' appalled that you would even question the validity of this bountiful harvest of Chris stuff. MAYBE I'LL JUST HAUL IT ALL BACK TO PVCC AND GIVE IT TO A TROLL WHO WILL APPRECIATE IT? --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 11:10, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
** I concede defeat. Sorry Champthom. Sorry Thrognzorrg. The months have been cruel. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 14:54, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks Thorgnzorrg, this is a riot. The profile information Chris has for Kookydashy is pretty hilarious so I threw a quick pic at the introduction. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 13:44, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Congratulations on finding Chris and updating Da Update. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 18:19, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Thanks everyone, Chris should know that he can never hide from me. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 18:41, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone else think his AppleJack icon warrants a mention on the MLP article?  --[[User:parlortrix|parlortrix]] 20:47, 28 July 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
*It ''is'' mentioned in the MLP article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:13, 28 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Pictures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that it really really pertains to Chris, but for validity's sake...aren't both &amp;quot;pictures&amp;quot; of Suchin... Suchin gives us the first picture and the Tippy says that he/she got a picture to remember the night... I'm assuming it's OF Suchin, not of Tippy. I'm going to change the name under the picture, if I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:21, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Both pictures are Suchin. Tippy made the post in which the secont Suchin picture was posted. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:31, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The picture said Tippy so I changed it. That's what I was referring to. Unless it was Tippy after he put on Suchin's lingerie...they said they'd share (or more accurately Suchin liked to share). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:42, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fingernail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I even had to have a fingernail replaced in surgery years ago; it is growing in well, even though slower than the other nine.&amp;quot; - someone should go through all past videos frame-by-frame to find out which fingernail it is, this is important -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 14:23, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I tried...I really did, but the only guess I have is his right ring fingernail. I'm assuming that even though it grows at a slower rate Chris is able to keep his nails relatively the same length by biting and or clipping them. A few of his videos that show his hands (there aren't that many actually), along with some of the TomGirl photos show that more often then not, it's the ring finger on his right hand that is the shortest. Of course, like I said, it's very possible that because he's a nail biter we will never be able to tell their growth rates. So unless someone can find better evidence, I'm going with that answer. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:57, 27 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Who's the gal-pal? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He mentions discussing things with his &amp;quot;closest gal-pal&amp;quot;. Was that a troll who had been speaking to him privately, or is someone in he knows real life going along with this? --[[User:Elias|Elias]] 15:28, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Play it cool, Chris is on to us ==   &lt;br /&gt;
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He knows that we know about Tomboys and Tomgirls. I thought that it would be ok to make an article since he quit the internet but clearly he's been spying on the CWCki. Just play it cool for now, who knows what he's going to do. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 18:38, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's done exactly what he always does- whine about it and ask that the forum be his personal army. I'd transcribe the topic, but I'm too lazy to do so right now. Chris' last post was five days ago, so it's not likely that he'll notice if we record the new topic he made.--[[User:AnotherAnon|AnotherAnon]] 22:25, 27 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wait, what? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Plus finding employment is hard. I got a fancy computer degree from community college, and there have been very slim pickings from it. Already Taken; Quota's Filled; yada, yada, yada.&amp;quot; Did Chris ''actually'' make an attempt to get a job? This can't be right. Chris is probably just saying this to fit in. I call bullshit. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 02:34, 28 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:* Second the bullshit [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 19:13, 28 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add his new posts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Chrissy has made more posts on T&amp;amp;ToV, the most recent being the 28th July. Wouldn't it be a good idea to add them to the article? [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 13:57, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, not only would it be a great idea...it's a necessity. DO IT. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:41, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I know right. I thought that there would be more updating of the article if he is still posting. The article is aprox a week out of date. [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 14:51, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Updated with new posts. [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 15:02, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Or not. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys can add hyperlinks/make minor tweaks but leave the posts and first paragraph alone. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:28, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Forgive me, I know you want us to play it cool, but I don't see why we can't archive his more recent posts.[[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 20:10, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robert “Lightfire”? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris misspelled this individual’s name. Should I even bother posting the name? --[[User:Riley_Martin|'''Uhh… this is Riley Martin.''' &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;O-Qua Tangin Wann&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 20:06, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Link's Broken ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The link to the actual forum isn't working. Here's the broken link: http://www.forumer.com/forum-error.php?u=tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com Says it gotten taken down. Does anybody know what happened? --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 14:42, 24 November 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:A while back, I asked one of the Yuku team about what would happen if the CWCki forum went without any activity for a prolonged period. She told me that if the forum was idle for 6 months, it would be deleted to save space. TaToV was established 7 months ago and was active for a while, so I bet that's what happened to them, too. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:55, 24 November 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Was this all an trap? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This thing was up less than a year and one user states: &amp;quot;That's right, everyone. It's that time again. Time to plan our big meet up for July.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Seemingly implying an ''annual'' meetup (but maybe a monthly I suppose). Considering the Magical Man question for instance could this forum and it's supposed users have been a ruse by person or persons unknown?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:ISP|ISP]] ([[User talk:ISP|talk]]) 17:31, 10 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I think this needs further wikifying, and we need to update other pages accordingly to reference this. This forum contains the use of several CWC-isms we haven't seen for a while, and it also makes the first reference to Dating Education or Chris's parents since GodJesus knows when. I also need to ask whether or not an &amp;quot;analysis&amp;quot; section summarising everything we learned about Chris from this would be overdoing it or not? Just something about the footnotes style of things like the google search information stuck between posts just makes the page seem messy to me. Also, whoever it was who came up with this forum and set it up, I will personally fly over to wherever you live and give you a blowjob for this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:51, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be presumptuous to say this could be a troll? Was there any conclusive evidence that it's not babby's first &amp;quot;Lol if I copy Chris' mannerisms then I can be epin&amp;quot;? Consider: less sporadic Use of Capital Letters, being as blatant as possible without screaming &amp;quot;I'M CHRIS&amp;quot; and no corroborating evidence to suggest it's him. Barring chats with *redacted* being released (if only) or the Dilluminati confirming I would take this with a grain of salt.  [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 07:59, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Maybe Chris is *gasp* CHANGING. Seriously, this is Chris. I don't tolerate fake shit on the CWCki. As much as PVCC would like to, I would not allow them to post something from Chris unless it actually was (and this is actually from Chris). Seriously, you people who think that someone is Chris just because they have a similar name to a user name is Chris, yet something that actually with Chris arouses skepticism. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:49, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* *snipped* [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:38, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sir I am both shocked ''and'' appalled that you would even question the validity of this bountiful harvest of Chris stuff. MAYBE I'LL JUST HAUL IT ALL BACK TO PVCC AND GIVE IT TO A TROLL WHO WILL APPRECIATE IT? --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 11:10, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
** I concede defeat. Sorry Champthom. Sorry Thrognzorrg. The months have been cruel. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 14:54, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks Thorgnzorrg, this is a riot. The profile information Chris has for Kookydashy is pretty hilarious so I threw a quick pic at the introduction. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 13:44, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Congratulations on finding Chris and updating Da Update. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 18:19, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Thanks everyone, Chris should know that he can never hide from me. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 18:41, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone else think his AppleJack icon warrants a mention on the MLP article?  --[[User:parlortrix|parlortrix]] 20:47, 28 July 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
*It ''is'' mentioned in the MLP article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:13, 28 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Pictures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that it really really pertains to Chris, but for validity's sake...aren't both &amp;quot;pictures&amp;quot; of Suchin... Suchin gives us the first picture and the Tippy says that he/she got a picture to remember the night... I'm assuming it's OF Suchin, not of Tippy. I'm going to change the name under the picture, if I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:21, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Both pictures are Suchin. Tippy made the post in which the secont Suchin picture was posted. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:31, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The picture said Tippy so I changed it. That's what I was referring to. Unless it was Tippy after he put on Suchin's lingerie...they said they'd share (or more accurately Suchin liked to share). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:42, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fingernail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I even had to have a fingernail replaced in surgery years ago; it is growing in well, even though slower than the other nine.&amp;quot; - someone should go through all past videos frame-by-frame to find out which fingernail it is, this is important -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 14:23, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I tried...I really did, but the only guess I have is his right ring fingernail. I'm assuming that even though it grows at a slower rate Chris is able to keep his nails relatively the same length by biting and or clipping them. A few of his videos that show his hands (there aren't that many actually), along with some of the TomGirl photos show that more often then not, it's the ring finger on his right hand that is the shortest. Of course, like I said, it's very possible that because he's a nail biter we will never be able to tell their growth rates. So unless someone can find better evidence, I'm going with that answer. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:57, 27 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Who's the gal-pal? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He mentions discussing things with his &amp;quot;closest gal-pal&amp;quot;. Was that a troll who had been speaking to him privately, or is someone in he knows real life going along with this? --[[User:Elias|Elias]] 15:28, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Play it cool, Chris is on to us ==   &lt;br /&gt;
   &lt;br /&gt;
He knows that we know about Tomboys and Tomgirls. I thought that it would be ok to make an article since he quit the internet but clearly he's been spying on the CWCki. Just play it cool for now, who knows what he's going to do. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 18:38, 20 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's done exactly what he always does- whine about it and ask that the forum be his personal army. I'd transcribe the topic, but I'm too lazy to do so right now. Chris' last post was five days ago, so it's not likely that he'll notice if we record the new topic he made.--[[User:AnotherAnon|AnotherAnon]] 22:25, 27 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wait, what? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Plus finding employment is hard. I got a fancy computer degree from community college, and there have been very slim pickings from it. Already Taken; Quota's Filled; yada, yada, yada.&amp;quot; Did Chris ''actually'' make an attempt to get a job? This can't be right. Chris is probably just saying this to fit in. I call bullshit. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 02:34, 28 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:* Second the bullshit [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 19:13, 28 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add his new posts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Chrissy has made more posts on T&amp;amp;ToV, the most recent being the 28th July. Wouldn't it be a good idea to add them to the article? [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 13:57, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, not only would it be a great idea...it's a necessity. DO IT. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:41, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I know right. I thought that there would be more updating of the article if he is still posting. The article is aprox a week out of date. [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 14:51, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Updated with new posts. [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 15:02, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Or not. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys can add hyperlinks/make minor tweaks but leave the posts and first paragraph alone. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:28, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Forgive me, I know you want us to play it cool, but I don't see why we can't archive his more recent posts.[[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 20:10, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robert “Lightfire”? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris misspelled this individual’s name. Should I even bother posting the name? --[[User:Riley_Martin|'''Uhh… this is Riley Martin.''' &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;O-Qua Tangin Wann&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 20:06, 29 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Link's Broken ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The link to the actual forum isn't working. Here's the broken link: http://www.forumer.com/forum-error.php?u=tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com Says it gotten taken down. Does anybody know what happened? --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 14:42, 24 November 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:A while back, I asked one of the Yuku team about what would happen if the CWCki forum went without any activity for a prolonged period. She told me that if the forum was idle for 6 months, it would be deleted to save space. TaToV was established 7 months ago and was active for a while, so I bet that's what happened to them, too. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;autosigned&amp;quot;&amp;gt;—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:55, 24 November 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Was this all an trap? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This thing was up less than a year and one user states: &amp;quot;That's right, everyone. It's that time again. Time to plan our big meet up for July.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Seemingly implying an ''annual'' meetup (but maybe a monthly I suppose). Considering the Magical Man question for instance could this forum and it's supposed users have been a ruse by person or persons unknown?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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