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Naught

2022-03-16T10:54:56Z

Ihasnoname:

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{{Unreliable|type=cred|Naught is a habitual liar and gives contradictory statements.{{refn|group="note"|Falsely claimed [[Watchmen]] members were appointed by the [[Guard Dogs]] group. Initially denied, then admitted to, doxing [[The WCT]].}}|Naught will often put his own spin on events that happened, sometimes leaving out important context.{{refn|group="note"|Omitted key context from his leak of [[Taser Discussion]]. He also used a [[:File:PraetorSample.jpg|cropped out]] "you may also like" portion of an Etsy sale for a Sonichu medallion, claiming it to be on the Praetor etsy page.}}}}
{{Unreliable|type=sock}}
This note 2 isn't me that's MKR & Patrick I wasn't friends with them at that time. I found mkrs discord @ in The Smoky Chris discord (they were all a part of operation barborossa, I wrote about it in the orbiters thread) when I was hanging out with Joseph Draft.

{{quote|i curb weens and alogs|Naught on his duties as a Watchman|<ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
|name = Naught
|image = Naught.jpg
|size = 250
|gender = Male
|organization = [[Watchmen]] (formerly)
|saga = [[Watchmen]]
|aliases = Bismuth anameisaname death of chans Nightmare [[User:Ihasnoname|Ihasnoname]] noot snafu
|}}

'''Naught''', also known as '''Bismuth''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, was the second leader of the Watchmen, taking over the group after [[Owls]] left,<ref name=naughtclarify>[[Naught#Follow-up on Origins]]</ref> and in June 2021 was succeeded by [[The WCT]]. Chris cut contact with Naught in June 2021 citing Naught's toxic behavior in doxing fellow Watchman The WCT<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]]</ref><ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref> which Naught would eventually publicly admit he had done because WCT had declined to share his [[Kiwi Farms]] account with him.<ref name=naughtedit>[https://archive.ph/wip/9215A Archive of the edit]</ref>

As a Watchman, Naught monitored and doxed potential weens or outside enablers. He went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. While he was in the CWCki Discord server, he often used an emoticon of a heart. For the [[Kiwi Farms]], he went by names/accounts including "'''anameisaname'''", "'''death of chans'''", and "'''Nightmare'''"<ref name=naughtthread>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ (archive: https://archive.fo/G30td)</ref> - he was eventually banned from the forum for use of multiple sockpuppet accounts, advertising, and liking his own posts with sock accounts.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/corbindallasmultipass-memorial-thread.30974/post-9227018</ref>{{PublicSource}}

==Interactions with Chris==
[[File:CPUBismuthHeart.jpg|150px|thumb|left|Avatar of CPU Bismuth Heart.]]
Chris stated that Naught began interacting with him during the [[Sockness]] saga in late 2019.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Bismuth and Geno]]</ref> He would roleplay to Chris as the CPU Goddess, CPU Bismuth Heart.

Naught claimed to having been the original player of the [[Lainchu]] character.<ref>[[March 2021 Watchmen leaks#Rejection of the Fourth Lainchu]]</ref>

Naught would also encourage Chris to go onto the Official CWCki Discord server in [[August 2020]], roughly a month after the server's creation.

Chris used [[Tarot]] readings to divine Naught's future in April 2021.<ref>[[:File:TarotDivinationNaught.jpg]]</ref>

==Conflicts with other Watchmen==

{{quote|I doxed Sean since he asked me to use his Logan account on kiwi farms, and I said no.
Yet, when I was banned from kiwi farms he said no, so i doxed him it didn't help he kept blaming me for striking his video's as he worked with lolcow.org to make a thread on me.|An actual edit from Naught, admitting to have doxed The WCT.<ref name=naughtedit></ref>}}

In [[June 2021]], conflict arose between Naught and fellow Watchman [[Sean Walker|The WCT]], stemming from an allegation Naught had doxed the latter.<ref name=naughtthread></ref> Following a Lolcow.org thread on the ex-member of the group, an audio voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]] ([https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3 Clip form, hosted at lolcow.org])</ref> suggested that Chris sided against Naught in the dispute.

On 20 July 2021, The WCT collaborated with [[Bella]] in an attempt to dox Naught back.<ref>[[Chess Group 15 Chats#Watchmen Treason]]</ref>

===Chris cuts ties===

==Involvement with Onion Farms==

During the [[Jail Saga]], Naught would frequent [[Kenneth Englehardt]]'s webiste, Onion Farms, and eventually become an admin of the website. He would primarily respond to some of Kenneth's posts regarding letters he received from Chris while he was in jail, and post on threads about Chris's orbiters.

On 29 January 2022, Naught indicated some degree of willingness to regain contact with Chris, asking Kenneth to "Tell CWC I said hi" and adding that "CWC knows me as bismuth," to which Kengle gave an okay.<ref>https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/cwc-letter-january-29-2022-pissed-off-over-some-of-the-fan-art-she-has-two-mothers-buckle-up-its-a-wild-ride.2147/post-33036 / https://archive.ph/4uyxz</ref> Whether Naught or Kenneth moved ahead with the contact is unknown as Kenneth and Chris cut ties shortly afterwards.

==Interviews==
===Origins===
[[File:Marvin on conventions claim.png|thumb|200px|Guard Dog [[Marvin]] disagrees with a claim made by Naught.]]
The following is a conversation between a Christorian and Naught via Discord; the users are color-coded red and green, respectively. The interview was originally placed on the Watchmen CWCki page but was later removed due to uncorroborated statements made by Naught<ref>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Watchmen&type=revision&diff=252258&oldid=252227</ref> and is now archived on this page.

Naught claimed that some members of the Watchmen had been operating since [[2018]], as the spiritual successor to the [[Guard Dogs]] – the latter having disbanded around the same time frame. However, Naught's account was disputed by a member of the Guard Dogs.

Naught also claimed that Watchmen members [[MKRNightVee]] and [[Minor Watchmen Members#AquaDiamond|Aqua]] were picked by [[Null]]. However, MKRNightVee got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number for her<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> and Aqua joined during the [[Sockness]] saga by which time Null had been distant from Chris.

{{collapsible
|Discord conversation on the Watchmen origins
|{{quoteboxred|I had a question in my head, if its fine for me to ask, could you tell me how exactly you guys met CWC and when you formed the group}}

Naught quoted a now-deleted section from the [[Guard Dogs]] CWCki article:
{{quoteboxwhite|Following the incidents at TooManyGames, in which Chris was thrown out of the con for being too handsy with other attendees, Null and several other members of the Guard Dogs began investigating Justin Silverman's account of the situation, intending to find out if Justin had overreacted towards Chris's behaviour. Ultimately, this investigation petered out with no real progress having been made, save for the fact that the Guard Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at any conventions he visited from then on.}}

{{quoteboxred|Oh, so you guys were picked by Null}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Yeah that's why Marvin is there since the captain couldn't stick around but the plan is still the same}}

{{quoteboxred|Ah, so the captain was in there too but left after a while}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Yeah mkr helped get the cwc protect squad out of the way with the fan art for cwc}}
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File:WatchmenOrigins.jpg
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</gallery></center>}}

===History===
On 4 [[September 2020]], a Christorian interviewed Naught through Discord, asking questions about the Watchmen. The interviewer's questions are color-coded red, with Naught's responses color-coded green.

{{collapsible
|Discord conversation on the Watchmen history
|The first four questions appear to be referring to the [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] server.

{{quoteboxred|Who started it and why?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Owls the guy who set-up mkr and [[Joseph Draft]] got aqua and mkr to draw some art to lure cwc in.}}

{{quoteboxred|How did Chris join there?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I was told it was going to be for Chris's patrons.}}

{{quoteboxred|Why was it killed?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|It was killed because owls and Joseph didn't know how to wrangle tards. Mkr aqua were being blamed for making it so I asked for a mod role kept asking for more perms and deleted all the channel's. I posted the rolling and trolling vid.}}

{{quoteboxred|Who killed it?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|I killed it, Joseph and Smokey Chris TheSperge were using the server to gather content, they convinced Joseph I was Johan.

After a 4 hour conversation I got Joseph draft to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet.}}

The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.

{{quoteboxred|Why did Aqua leave?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Stress and people @ her on Twitter

Her and mkr are still frens}}

{{quoteboxred|Will this group be around forever?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|As long as Chris is in need or willing yes}}

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File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 1.png
File:4September2020 WatchmenOriginQ&A 2.png
</gallery></center>}}

===Follow-up on Origins===
Naught was asked to clarify the Watchmen's origins. In a prior interview, Naught had claimed the Watchmen to have been working with the Guard Dogs to supervise Chris at conventions, however a Guard Dog disagreed with the claim. Naught blamed Watchmen founder [[Owls]], claiming the story was what he had been told by Owls.

{{collapsible
|Discord conversation on follow-up to Watchmen origins
|{{quoteboxred|Are you the one the CWCki calls Naught?

Wanted to ask something clarifying the Watchmen origins if so. There's conflicting statements.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Yes}}

{{quoteboxred|So you quoted the Guard Dogs article to explain the group origins - a section that said the Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at cons after the TMG disaster. But the editor who put that in since retracted it for lack of source and Marvin said there were no babysitters and that Chris was on his own.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Yeah that's what owls/Ryan told me

He's no longer around he's ghostbird on the farm's}}

{{quoteboxred|Hmm. Interesting.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|That's why I'm around he wasn't reporting back to Marvin

There was something about the footage smokey chris and theSperge}}

{{quoteboxred|Owl's was the original person behind the group?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|He started [[The Place|the place]] server and was telling mkr and Marvin he was doing x y and z but wasn't}}

{{quoteboxred|Alright if I quote you on on the CWCki? Gonna try to fix up the Origins section.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Ok

There was even a panel where he insisted his owl avatar in the comic}}

{{quoteboxred|MKR's?}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Yeah owls was the one making it canon mkr draws}}

{{quoteboxred|Alright, thanks for the info.}}
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File:Naught origin clarify 1.png
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</gallery></center>}}

==See also==
*[[Naught DMs]]

==Notes==
<references group="note"/>

{{References}}
{{WatchmenSaga}}
{{People}}

[[Category:White Knights]]

Sean Walker

2021-11-29T10:12:27Z

Ihasnoname: /* Internal conflicts */

{{Infobox Person
|name = Sean Walker
|image = SeanWalker.png
|imagesize= 200
|year = 2000
|month = 2
|day = 18
|birthsrc = <ref>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9718229|title=Sean's birthday confirmed on Kiwi Farms}}</ref>
|aliases = Leo Azul<ref name=EverfreeSecurity/> Psychic Espeon<ref name="WCTThread/> Neko / Neko Onyx<ref name="Psuedonyms>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9715009|title=Partial list of Sean's pseudonyms}}</ref> TheWildcat (WCT)<ref name="WCTThread/> Lainchu<ref name=lainchu/> BrownHairedDragon<ref name="BrownHairedDragon"/> Conner<ref name="WCTThread/>
|gender = Male<ref name="WCTWiki"/>
|race = Part-Filipino<ref name=naughtthread/>
|nationality = American (California)<ref name="WCTWiki"/><ref name="California"/>
|organization = [[Watchmen]] (formerly)
|saga = [[Watchmen]]
}}

'''Sean Walker''' (born 18 February 2000), more commonly known online as '''The Wildcat (WCT)''', '''Psychic Espeon''', '''Neko Onyx''', '''Lainchu''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, is a former [[Watchmen]] member and wannabe school shooter, self-described as "one of the final protagonists" of Christory.<ref name="WCTThread>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|title=Sean Walker / @Psychic Espeon / Lainchu / WCT / WildCat / Neko (etc.) - Self-described "Final Protagonist of Christory", spree-killer fanboy, connected to Bellagate}}</ref><ref name='finalprotagonist'>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9742266|title=Sean declaring himself as a "final protagonist"}}</ref> He boasted that he was proud about his eventual feature in [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|Geno Samuel's documentary series]].<ref name='finalprotagonist'/> He has also claimed himself to be a "successor" to [[Null|Joshua Moon]] of the Kiwi Farms, even having one of his white knight pseudonyms be "'''Conner'''",<ref name="WCTThread/> Josh's middle name, in spite of having a deep-rooted hatred towards the man.

==As a Watchman==
Through watching ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'', Sean became "fascinated"<ref name="WCTWiki"/> with Chris in early to mid-2018.<ref name="WCTThread/> He joined the CWCville rebellion when he made friends with Smoky Chris another ween, the aspiring documentarians met in GenoSamuels discord server, Sean's Syria autism prominent even at that time. https://archive.fo/o/Syrle/https://twitter.com/VilleCwc
Sean met Bismuth in Genosamuel server when bismuth hung out with Joseph Draft director of CWC vs the world, the two were early watchmen.
He later joined the Watchmen, where he mainly archived calls involving Chris while maintaining a YouTube channel that posted Chris-centric content which has since been privated. In February 2021, he attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of 'Lainchu,' an OC created by the Watchmen, but was rejected by Chris, who still preferred his predecessor.<ref name=lainchu>[[:File:2021-03-18_Lainchu.png]]</ref>

===Internal conflicts===
Early in [[June 2021]], The WCT dox was reposted on [[Kiwi Farms]] by fellow Watchman and group leader Bismuth.<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ Bismuth thread on lolcow.org] [https://archive.fo/G30td (archive)]</ref> When Sean confronted Bismuth in a voice chat, Bismuth denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox Sean in an attempt to silence him.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hYztxRHRA Watchmen Call (June 21, 2021)] </ref> Sean explained the events to Chris himself, who believed The WCT's evidence and apparently cut ties with Bismuth over it.<ref name=wctinterview>[[Watchmen#The WCT 2|July 2021 interview]]</ref>
I doxed Sean since he asked me to use his Logan account on kiwi farms, and I said no.
Yet, when I was banned from kiwi farms he said no, so i doxed him it didn't help he kept blaming me for striking his video's as he worked with lolcow.org to make a thread on me.

Sean was doxed on 9chan.tw /cow/ and 2019 here https://archive.fo/EkMv0 and here on lolcowfarms identical op https://archive.fo/G4FTS

Much later, Sean revealed to [[Bella]] that he had been "working with Former Kiwi Farmers to bring down the Watchmen" purely out of a personal dislike of Bismuth for a long time.<ref name="WCTThread/>

Shortly after, Sean was banned from [[The Place]], the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris left the server himself. In Sean's own words, "[Chris] saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=wctinterview></ref> In late June, [[MKRNightVee]] tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> accusing Sean of having sinister motives, including "probably [wanting] Chris to kill himself in a similar manner [to Randy Stair].<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>

Sean created a successor group and invited in Chris and several of the Watchmen who had been in The Place, titling his group [[Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]].

Sean gave [[Watchmen#The WCT 2|an interview to the CWCki]] explaining his side of the story.

==Randy Stair documentary==
{{main|Randy Stair}}
Sean was a regular contributor to a wiki dedicated to the documentation of [[Randy Stair]], who infamously killed three people and then himself after losing his mind, having held his own obsession with Stair since at least [[July 2018]],<ref name="WCTWiki">[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 "The WCT" - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]</ref> according to a wiki page [[Ego|he made about himself]].<ref>[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history History of the page shows only one contributor, 'BrownHairedDragon'] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210913153431/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history (archive)]</ref><ref name="BrownHairedDragon">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/post-9706881 BrownHairedDragon is confirmed to be Sean himself]</ref>

Sean produced a YouTube documentary on Stair. In [[November 2020]], Chris found the documentary and took an interest in Stair's story, particularly the aspects involving Stair's belief in [[Chris and reality|fictional characters existing in an alternate dimension]].<ref name=discussion>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref>

Chris recorded an audio file to "help [Stair] get a post-death message out," giving the file to Sean.<ref name=discussion></ref>

Over the course of his interactions with Chris, Sean displayed numerous strange behaviors, including seemingly doxxing himself to Chris at one point.<ref name="California">[[Chris channels Randy#"Randy" just starts rambling about the Merge|Chris reveals in a call that he knows Sean's home state.]]</ref>

==Interactions with Bella==
On 13 July 2021, Chris brought up [[Bella]] to Sean, telling Sean she would be accompanying him to [[Everfree Northwest]], as Sean had expressed concern over [[Jacob Sockness]] attending the same con<ref name=EverfreeSecurity>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Everfree security]]</ref> (Sockness had declared plans to attend in disguise to meet with Chris).<ref>{{Cite Reddit
|subreddit=Kidasuna
|title= Going to Ever Free
|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]
|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free
|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}</ref> On 19 July, Chris invited Bella, as well as the [[Suitress]], into the [[Knights of CWC]],<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Invitation]]</ref> a [[Watchmen]] splinter group headed by Sean, and the group discussed plans to protect Chris from Sockness.<ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree8.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree9.png]]</ref>

Bella invited Sean and Chris into her Chess Club Discord server. which they discuss Chris, the Kiwi Farms, with Sean attempting to insinuate (falsely) that he had inside access to [[Null]] and other prominent users, and later asking Bella to assist him in doxing Naught, calling him an "evil man."<ref>[[:File:Sean_bella_allen.png]]</ref>

On 30 July, the [[incest]] call and texts were leaked and Bella was named by [[Null]] as a troll with knowledge of the material.<ref>{{Cite farms
|thread = 96559
|title = Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court
|user = [[Null]]
}}</ref> Sean then questioned Bella, asking for her side of the story.<ref>[[:File:WCT questions Bella.png]]</ref> He then created a group chat, titled Regarding Chris, with Bella and some of the other Knights of CWC members for further questioning.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref> During the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing the [[Suitress]] for being the voice in the call.{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}}

On 31 July, Bella uploaded a screenshot into the group chat. The screenshot depicted Chris allegedly discussing practicing BDSM with his mother. Bella claimed that "this is the shit i woke up to the morning after the call." Sean reacted with shock at the screenshot, exclaiming, "WHAT THE FUCK [...] BELLA. WHY IS HE LIKE THIS". Bella goaded Sean to release the screenshot but to leave her name out of it.<ref name=bdsm>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms. Starting at 31-Jul-21 03:49 PM timestamp]</ref> Sean did so, posting the image to [[Kiwi Farms]].<ref>{{Cite farms|title= Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court|thread=96559|post=9586650|user=Psychic Espeon (Sean)}}</ref>

As some posters reacted with skepticism at the image, Sean told Bella that "they want to know if you're credible. people think its fake." Bella then framed the Suitress, saying, "oh how do i proove [...] [the Suitress] has it too". Sean said he would have to name people, and Bella goaded him to name [the Suitress].<ref name=bdsm></ref> He complied, claiming on Kiwi Farms in response to a post insisting he give his source that [the Suitress] had sent him the screenshot; he also decided to post a video featuring her,<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/MhMhrBC A Kiwi Farms post from Sean]</ref> effectively turning attention onto her and revealing her face, linking her likeness to her name which was previously mentioned in the second [[incest call]] leak.

A poster requested that Sean's source explain a discrepancy in the screenshot, and Sean encouraged Bella to "Join the Farms for a bit, don't say you're the "Bella." But just state how you got the screenshot and such."<ref name=bdsm></ref> The screenshot was later deemed fake by observers.{{refn|group="note"|Determined by observers with image analysis<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/page-644#post-9676103</ref>}}

==Conclusion==

With his last remaining hours of freedom, Chris chose to send his final known online message to Sean Walker, informing him that the pets were being taken care of.<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref> Within a few hours, Chris was [[August 2021 Arrest and Court Case#Arrest|taken into custody]]. With Chris in jail and Sean's identity doxxed by the Farms, he hasn't made a move since this exchange. It remains to be seen if he has plans for when - if ever - Chris gets out of jail, but it's likely his involvement in Chris's life is over.

==Notes==
<references group="note"/>

==References==
<references/>

{{People}}
[[Category:White Knights]]
[[Category:Enablers]]

Sean Walker

2021-11-29T10:10:11Z

Ihasnoname: /* As a Watchman */

{{Infobox Person
|name = Sean Walker
|image = SeanWalker.png
|imagesize= 200
|year = 2000
|month = 2
|day = 18
|birthsrc = <ref>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9718229|title=Sean's birthday confirmed on Kiwi Farms}}</ref>
|aliases = Leo Azul<ref name=EverfreeSecurity/> Psychic Espeon<ref name="WCTThread/> Neko / Neko Onyx<ref name="Psuedonyms>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9715009|title=Partial list of Sean's pseudonyms}}</ref> TheWildcat (WCT)<ref name="WCTThread/> Lainchu<ref name=lainchu/> BrownHairedDragon<ref name="BrownHairedDragon"/> Conner<ref name="WCTThread/>
|gender = Male<ref name="WCTWiki"/>
|race = Part-Filipino<ref name=naughtthread/>
|nationality = American (California)<ref name="WCTWiki"/><ref name="California"/>
|organization = [[Watchmen]] (formerly)
|saga = [[Watchmen]]
}}

'''Sean Walker''' (born 18 February 2000), more commonly known online as '''The Wildcat (WCT)''', '''Psychic Espeon''', '''Neko Onyx''', '''Lainchu''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, is a former [[Watchmen]] member and wannabe school shooter, self-described as "one of the final protagonists" of Christory.<ref name="WCTThread>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|title=Sean Walker / @Psychic Espeon / Lainchu / WCT / WildCat / Neko (etc.) - Self-described "Final Protagonist of Christory", spree-killer fanboy, connected to Bellagate}}</ref><ref name='finalprotagonist'>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9742266|title=Sean declaring himself as a "final protagonist"}}</ref> He boasted that he was proud about his eventual feature in [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|Geno Samuel's documentary series]].<ref name='finalprotagonist'/> He has also claimed himself to be a "successor" to [[Null|Joshua Moon]] of the Kiwi Farms, even having one of his white knight pseudonyms be "'''Conner'''",<ref name="WCTThread/> Josh's middle name, in spite of having a deep-rooted hatred towards the man.

==As a Watchman==
Through watching ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'', Sean became "fascinated"<ref name="WCTWiki"/> with Chris in early to mid-2018.<ref name="WCTThread/> He joined the CWCville rebellion when he made friends with Smoky Chris another ween, the aspiring documentarians met in GenoSamuels discord server, Sean's Syria autism prominent even at that time. https://archive.fo/o/Syrle/https://twitter.com/VilleCwc
Sean met Bismuth in Genosamuel server when bismuth hung out with Joseph Draft director of CWC vs the world, the two were early watchmen.
He later joined the Watchmen, where he mainly archived calls involving Chris while maintaining a YouTube channel that posted Chris-centric content which has since been privated. In February 2021, he attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of 'Lainchu,' an OC created by the Watchmen, but was rejected by Chris, who still preferred his predecessor.<ref name=lainchu>[[:File:2021-03-18_Lainchu.png]]</ref>

===Internal conflicts===
Early in [[June 2021]], The WCT was doxed on [[Kiwi Farms]] by fellow Watchman and group leader Bismuth.<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ Bismuth thread on lolcow.org] [https://archive.fo/G30td (archive)]</ref> When Sean confronted Bismuth in a voice chat, Bismuth denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox Sean in an attempt to silence him.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hYztxRHRA Watchmen Call (June 21, 2021)] </ref> Sean explained the events to Chris himself, who believed The WCT's evidence and apparently cut ties with Bismuth over it.<ref name=wctinterview>[[Watchmen#The WCT 2|July 2021 interview]]</ref>
I doxed Sean since he asked me to use his Logan account on kiwi farms, and I said no.
Yet, when I was banned from kiwi farms he said no, so i doxed him it didn't help he kept blaming me for striking his video's as he worked with lolcow.org to make a thread on me.

Sean was doxed on 9chan.tw /cow/ and 2019 here https://archive.fo/EkMv0 and here on lolcowfarms identical op https://archive.fo/G4FTS

Much later, Sean revealed to [[Bella]] that he had been "working with Former Kiwi Farmers to bring down the Watchmen" purely out of a personal dislike of Bismuth for a long time.<ref name="WCTThread/>

Shortly after, Sean was banned from [[The Place]], the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris left the server himself. In Sean's own words, "[Chris] saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=wctinterview></ref> In late June, [[MKRNightVee]] tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> accusing Sean of having sinister motives, including "probably [wanting] Chris to kill himself in a similar manner [to Randy Stair].<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>

Sean created a successor group and invited in Chris and several of the Watchmen who had been in The Place, titling his group [[Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]].

Sean gave [[Watchmen#The WCT 2|an interview to the CWCki]] explaining his side of the story.

==Randy Stair documentary==
{{main|Randy Stair}}
Sean was a regular contributor to a wiki dedicated to the documentation of [[Randy Stair]], who infamously killed three people and then himself after losing his mind, having held his own obsession with Stair since at least [[July 2018]],<ref name="WCTWiki">[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 "The WCT" - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]</ref> according to a wiki page [[Ego|he made about himself]].<ref>[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history History of the page shows only one contributor, 'BrownHairedDragon'] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210913153431/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history (archive)]</ref><ref name="BrownHairedDragon">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/post-9706881 BrownHairedDragon is confirmed to be Sean himself]</ref>

Sean produced a YouTube documentary on Stair. In [[November 2020]], Chris found the documentary and took an interest in Stair's story, particularly the aspects involving Stair's belief in [[Chris and reality|fictional characters existing in an alternate dimension]].<ref name=discussion>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref>

Chris recorded an audio file to "help [Stair] get a post-death message out," giving the file to Sean.<ref name=discussion></ref>

Over the course of his interactions with Chris, Sean displayed numerous strange behaviors, including seemingly doxxing himself to Chris at one point.<ref name="California">[[Chris channels Randy#"Randy" just starts rambling about the Merge|Chris reveals in a call that he knows Sean's home state.]]</ref>

==Interactions with Bella==
On 13 July 2021, Chris brought up [[Bella]] to Sean, telling Sean she would be accompanying him to [[Everfree Northwest]], as Sean had expressed concern over [[Jacob Sockness]] attending the same con<ref name=EverfreeSecurity>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Everfree security]]</ref> (Sockness had declared plans to attend in disguise to meet with Chris).<ref>{{Cite Reddit
|subreddit=Kidasuna
|title= Going to Ever Free
|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]
|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free
|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}</ref> On 19 July, Chris invited Bella, as well as the [[Suitress]], into the [[Knights of CWC]],<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Invitation]]</ref> a [[Watchmen]] splinter group headed by Sean, and the group discussed plans to protect Chris from Sockness.<ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree8.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree9.png]]</ref>

Bella invited Sean and Chris into her Chess Club Discord server. which they discuss Chris, the Kiwi Farms, with Sean attempting to insinuate (falsely) that he had inside access to [[Null]] and other prominent users, and later asking Bella to assist him in doxing Naught, calling him an "evil man."<ref>[[:File:Sean_bella_allen.png]]</ref>

On 30 July, the [[incest]] call and texts were leaked and Bella was named by [[Null]] as a troll with knowledge of the material.<ref>{{Cite farms
|thread = 96559
|title = Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court
|user = [[Null]]
}}</ref> Sean then questioned Bella, asking for her side of the story.<ref>[[:File:WCT questions Bella.png]]</ref> He then created a group chat, titled Regarding Chris, with Bella and some of the other Knights of CWC members for further questioning.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref> During the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing the [[Suitress]] for being the voice in the call.{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}}

On 31 July, Bella uploaded a screenshot into the group chat. The screenshot depicted Chris allegedly discussing practicing BDSM with his mother. Bella claimed that "this is the shit i woke up to the morning after the call." Sean reacted with shock at the screenshot, exclaiming, "WHAT THE FUCK [...] BELLA. WHY IS HE LIKE THIS". Bella goaded Sean to release the screenshot but to leave her name out of it.<ref name=bdsm>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms. Starting at 31-Jul-21 03:49 PM timestamp]</ref> Sean did so, posting the image to [[Kiwi Farms]].<ref>{{Cite farms|title= Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court|thread=96559|post=9586650|user=Psychic Espeon (Sean)}}</ref>

As some posters reacted with skepticism at the image, Sean told Bella that "they want to know if you're credible. people think its fake." Bella then framed the Suitress, saying, "oh how do i proove [...] [the Suitress] has it too". Sean said he would have to name people, and Bella goaded him to name [the Suitress].<ref name=bdsm></ref> He complied, claiming on Kiwi Farms in response to a post insisting he give his source that [the Suitress] had sent him the screenshot; he also decided to post a video featuring her,<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/MhMhrBC A Kiwi Farms post from Sean]</ref> effectively turning attention onto her and revealing her face, linking her likeness to her name which was previously mentioned in the second [[incest call]] leak.

A poster requested that Sean's source explain a discrepancy in the screenshot, and Sean encouraged Bella to "Join the Farms for a bit, don't say you're the "Bella." But just state how you got the screenshot and such."<ref name=bdsm></ref> The screenshot was later deemed fake by observers.{{refn|group="note"|Determined by observers with image analysis<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/page-644#post-9676103</ref>}}

==Conclusion==

With his last remaining hours of freedom, Chris chose to send his final known online message to Sean Walker, informing him that the pets were being taken care of.<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref> Within a few hours, Chris was [[August 2021 Arrest and Court Case#Arrest|taken into custody]]. With Chris in jail and Sean's identity doxxed by the Farms, he hasn't made a move since this exchange. It remains to be seen if he has plans for when - if ever - Chris gets out of jail, but it's likely his involvement in Chris's life is over.

==Notes==
<references group="note"/>

==References==
<references/>

{{People}}
[[Category:White Knights]]
[[Category:Enablers]]

Sean Walker

2021-11-29T10:03:19Z

Ihasnoname: /* As a Watchman */

{{Infobox Person
|name = Sean Walker
|image = SeanWalker.png
|imagesize= 200
|year = 2000
|month = 2
|day = 18
|birthsrc = <ref>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9718229|title=Sean's birthday confirmed on Kiwi Farms}}</ref>
|aliases = Leo Azul<ref name=EverfreeSecurity/> Psychic Espeon<ref name="WCTThread/> Neko / Neko Onyx<ref name="Psuedonyms>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9715009|title=Partial list of Sean's pseudonyms}}</ref> TheWildcat (WCT)<ref name="WCTThread/> Lainchu<ref name=lainchu/> BrownHairedDragon<ref name="BrownHairedDragon"/> Conner<ref name="WCTThread/>
|gender = Male<ref name="WCTWiki"/>
|race = Part-Filipino<ref name=naughtthread/>
|nationality = American (California)<ref name="WCTWiki"/><ref name="California"/>
|organization = [[Watchmen]] (formerly)
|saga = [[Watchmen]]
}}

'''Sean Walker''' (born 18 February 2000), more commonly known online as '''The Wildcat (WCT)''', '''Psychic Espeon''', '''Neko Onyx''', '''Lainchu''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, is a former [[Watchmen]] member and wannabe school shooter, self-described as "one of the final protagonists" of Christory.<ref name="WCTThread>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|title=Sean Walker / @Psychic Espeon / Lainchu / WCT / WildCat / Neko (etc.) - Self-described "Final Protagonist of Christory", spree-killer fanboy, connected to Bellagate}}</ref><ref name='finalprotagonist'>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9742266|title=Sean declaring himself as a "final protagonist"}}</ref> He boasted that he was proud about his eventual feature in [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|Geno Samuel's documentary series]].<ref name='finalprotagonist'/> He has also claimed himself to be a "successor" to [[Null|Joshua Moon]] of the Kiwi Farms, even having one of his white knight pseudonyms be "'''Conner'''",<ref name="WCTThread/> Josh's middle name, in spite of having a deep-rooted hatred towards the man.

==As a Watchman==
Through watching ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'', Sean became "fascinated"<ref name="WCTWiki"/> with Chris in early to mid-2018.<ref name="WCTThread/> He joined the cwcville rebellion when he made friends with smoky Chris they met in GenoSamuels server, Sean's Syria autism prominent even at that time. https://archive.fo/o/Syrle/https://twitter.com/VilleCwc
Sean met Bismuth in Genosamuel server when bismuth hung out with Joseph Draft director of cwc vs the world, the two were early watchmen.
He later joined the Watchmen, where he mainly archived calls involving Chris while maintaining a YouTube channel that posted Chris-centric content which has since been privated. In February 2021, he attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of 'Lainchu,' an OC created by the Watchmen, but was rejected by Chris, who still preferred his predecessor.<ref name=lainchu>[[:File:2021-03-18_Lainchu.png]]</ref>

===Internal conflicts===
Early in [[June 2021]], The WCT was doxed on [[Kiwi Farms]] by fellow Watchman and group leader Bismuth.<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ Bismuth thread on lolcow.org] [https://archive.fo/G30td (archive)]</ref> When Sean confronted Bismuth in a voice chat, Bismuth denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox Sean in an attempt to silence him.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hYztxRHRA Watchmen Call (June 21, 2021)] </ref> Sean explained the events to Chris himself, who believed The WCT's evidence and apparently cut ties with Bismuth over it.<ref name=wctinterview>[[Watchmen#The WCT 2|July 2021 interview]]</ref>

Sean was doxed on 9chan.tw /cow/ and 2019 here https://archive.fo/EkMv0 and here on lolcowfarms identical op https://archive.fo/G4FTS

Much later, Sean revealed to [[Bella]] that he had been "working with Former Kiwi Farmers to bring down the Watchmen" purely out of a personal dislike of Bismuth for a long time.<ref name="WCTThread/>

Shortly after, Sean was banned from [[The Place]], the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris left the server himself. In Sean's own words, "[Chris] saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=wctinterview></ref> In late June, [[MKRNightVee]] tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> accusing Sean of having sinister motives, including "probably [wanting] Chris to kill himself in a similar manner [to Randy Stair].<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>

Sean created a successor group and invited in Chris and several of the Watchmen who had been in The Place, titling his group [[Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]].

Sean gave [[Watchmen#The WCT 2|an interview to the CWCki]] explaining his side of the story.

==Randy Stair documentary==
{{main|Randy Stair}}
Sean was a regular contributor to a wiki dedicated to the documentation of [[Randy Stair]], who infamously killed three people and then himself after losing his mind, having held his own obsession with Stair since at least [[July 2018]],<ref name="WCTWiki">[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 "The WCT" - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]</ref> according to a wiki page [[Ego|he made about himself]].<ref>[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history History of the page shows only one contributor, 'BrownHairedDragon'] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210913153431/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history (archive)]</ref><ref name="BrownHairedDragon">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/post-9706881 BrownHairedDragon is confirmed to be Sean himself]</ref>

Sean produced a YouTube documentary on Stair. In [[November 2020]], Chris found the documentary and took an interest in Stair's story, particularly the aspects involving Stair's belief in [[Chris and reality|fictional characters existing in an alternate dimension]].<ref name=discussion>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref>

Chris recorded an audio file to "help [Stair] get a post-death message out," giving the file to Sean.<ref name=discussion></ref>

Over the course of his interactions with Chris, Sean displayed numerous strange behaviors, including seemingly doxxing himself to Chris at one point.<ref name="California">[[Chris channels Randy#"Randy" just starts rambling about the Merge|Chris reveals in a call that he knows Sean's home state.]]</ref>

==Interactions with Bella==
On 13 July 2021, Chris brought up [[Bella]] to Sean, telling Sean she would be accompanying him to [[Everfree Northwest]], as Sean had expressed concern over [[Jacob Sockness]] attending the same con<ref name=EverfreeSecurity>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Everfree security]]</ref> (Sockness had declared plans to attend in disguise to meet with Chris).<ref>{{Cite Reddit
|subreddit=Kidasuna
|title= Going to Ever Free
|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]
|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free
|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}</ref> On 19 July, Chris invited Bella, as well as the [[Suitress]], into the [[Knights of CWC]],<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Invitation]]</ref> a [[Watchmen]] splinter group headed by Sean, and the group discussed plans to protect Chris from Sockness.<ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree8.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree9.png]]</ref>

Bella invited Sean and Chris into her Chess Club Discord server. which they discuss Chris, the Kiwi Farms, with Sean attempting to insinuate (falsely) that he had inside access to [[Null]] and other prominent users, and later asking Bella to assist him in doxing Naught, calling him an "evil man."<ref>[[:File:Sean_bella_allen.png]]</ref>

On 30 July, the [[incest]] call and texts were leaked and Bella was named by [[Null]] as a troll with knowledge of the material.<ref>{{Cite farms
|thread = 96559
|title = Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court
|user = [[Null]]
}}</ref> Sean then questioned Bella, asking for her side of the story.<ref>[[:File:WCT questions Bella.png]]</ref> He then created a group chat, titled Regarding Chris, with Bella and some of the other Knights of CWC members for further questioning.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref> During the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing the [[Suitress]] for being the voice in the call.{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}}

On 31 July, Bella uploaded a screenshot into the group chat. The screenshot depicted Chris allegedly discussing practicing BDSM with his mother. Bella claimed that "this is the shit i woke up to the morning after the call." Sean reacted with shock at the screenshot, exclaiming, "WHAT THE FUCK [...] BELLA. WHY IS HE LIKE THIS". Bella goaded Sean to release the screenshot but to leave her name out of it.<ref name=bdsm>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms. Starting at 31-Jul-21 03:49 PM timestamp]</ref> Sean did so, posting the image to [[Kiwi Farms]].<ref>{{Cite farms|title= Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court|thread=96559|post=9586650|user=Psychic Espeon (Sean)}}</ref>

As some posters reacted with skepticism at the image, Sean told Bella that "they want to know if you're credible. people think its fake." Bella then framed the Suitress, saying, "oh how do i proove [...] [the Suitress] has it too". Sean said he would have to name people, and Bella goaded him to name [the Suitress].<ref name=bdsm></ref> He complied, claiming on Kiwi Farms in response to a post insisting he give his source that [the Suitress] had sent him the screenshot; he also decided to post a video featuring her,<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/MhMhrBC A Kiwi Farms post from Sean]</ref> effectively turning attention onto her and revealing her face, linking her likeness to her name which was previously mentioned in the second [[incest call]] leak.

A poster requested that Sean's source explain a discrepancy in the screenshot, and Sean encouraged Bella to "Join the Farms for a bit, don't say you're the "Bella." But just state how you got the screenshot and such."<ref name=bdsm></ref> The screenshot was later deemed fake by observers.{{refn|group="note"|Determined by observers with image analysis<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/page-644#post-9676103</ref>}}

==Conclusion==

With his last remaining hours of freedom, Chris chose to send his final known online message to Sean Walker, informing him that the pets were being taken care of.<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref> Within a few hours, Chris was [[August 2021 Arrest and Court Case#Arrest|taken into custody]]. With Chris in jail and Sean's identity doxxed by the Farms, he hasn't made a move since this exchange. It remains to be seen if he has plans for when - if ever - Chris gets out of jail, but it's likely his involvement in Chris's life is over.

==Notes==
<references group="note"/>

==References==
<references/>

{{People}}
[[Category:White Knights]]
[[Category:Enablers]]

Sean Walker

2021-11-29T09:55:25Z

Ihasnoname: /* Internal conflicts */

{{Infobox Person
|name = Sean Walker
|image = SeanWalker.png
|imagesize= 200
|year = 2000
|month = 2
|day = 18
|birthsrc = <ref>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9718229|title=Sean's birthday confirmed on Kiwi Farms}}</ref>
|aliases = Leo Azul<ref name=EverfreeSecurity/> Psychic Espeon<ref name="WCTThread/> Neko / Neko Onyx<ref name="Psuedonyms>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9715009|title=Partial list of Sean's pseudonyms}}</ref> TheWildcat (WCT)<ref name="WCTThread/> Lainchu<ref name=lainchu/> BrownHairedDragon<ref name="BrownHairedDragon"/> Conner<ref name="WCTThread/>
|gender = Male<ref name="WCTWiki"/>
|race = Part-Filipino<ref name=naughtthread/>
|nationality = American (California)<ref name="WCTWiki"/><ref name="California"/>
|organization = [[Watchmen]] (formerly)
|saga = [[Watchmen]]
}}

'''Sean Walker''' (born 18 February 2000), more commonly known online as '''The Wildcat (WCT)''', '''Psychic Espeon''', '''Neko Onyx''', '''Lainchu''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, is a former [[Watchmen]] member and wannabe school shooter, self-described as "one of the final protagonists" of Christory.<ref name="WCTThread>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|title=Sean Walker / @Psychic Espeon / Lainchu / WCT / WildCat / Neko (etc.) - Self-described "Final Protagonist of Christory", spree-killer fanboy, connected to Bellagate}}</ref><ref name='finalprotagonist'>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9742266|title=Sean declaring himself as a "final protagonist"}}</ref> He boasted that he was proud about his eventual feature in [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|Geno Samuel's documentary series]].<ref name='finalprotagonist'/> He has also claimed himself to be a "successor" to [[Null|Joshua Moon]] of the Kiwi Farms, even having one of his white knight pseudonyms be "'''Conner'''",<ref name="WCTThread/> Josh's middle name, in spite of having a deep-rooted hatred towards the man.

==As a Watchman==
Through watching ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'', Sean became "fascinated"<ref name="WCTWiki"/> with Chris in early to mid-2018.<ref name="WCTThread/> He later joined the Watchmen, where he mainly archived calls involving Chris while maintaining a YouTube channel that posted Chris-centric content which has since been privated. In February 2021, he attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of 'Lainchu,' an OC created by the Watchmen, but was rejected by Chris, who still preferred his predecessor.<ref name=lainchu>[[:File:2021-03-18_Lainchu.png]]</ref>

===Internal conflicts===
Early in [[June 2021]], The WCT was doxed on [[Kiwi Farms]] by fellow Watchman and group leader Bismuth.<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ Bismuth thread on lolcow.org] [https://archive.fo/G30td (archive)]</ref> When Sean confronted Bismuth in a voice chat, Bismuth denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox Sean in an attempt to silence him.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hYztxRHRA Watchmen Call (June 21, 2021)] </ref> Sean explained the events to Chris himself, who believed The WCT's evidence and apparently cut ties with Bismuth over it.<ref name=wctinterview>[[Watchmen#The WCT 2|July 2021 interview]]</ref>

Sean was doxed on 9chan.tw /cow/ and 2019 here https://archive.fo/EkMv0 and here on lolcowfarms identical op https://archive.fo/G4FTS

Much later, Sean revealed to [[Bella]] that he had been "working with Former Kiwi Farmers to bring down the Watchmen" purely out of a personal dislike of Bismuth for a long time.<ref name="WCTThread/>

Shortly after, Sean was banned from [[The Place]], the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris left the server himself. In Sean's own words, "[Chris] saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=wctinterview></ref> In late June, [[MKRNightVee]] tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> accusing Sean of having sinister motives, including "probably [wanting] Chris to kill himself in a similar manner [to Randy Stair].<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref>

Sean created a successor group and invited in Chris and several of the Watchmen who had been in The Place, titling his group [[Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]].

Sean gave [[Watchmen#The WCT 2|an interview to the CWCki]] explaining his side of the story.

==Randy Stair documentary==
{{main|Randy Stair}}
Sean was a regular contributor to a wiki dedicated to the documentation of [[Randy Stair]], who infamously killed three people and then himself after losing his mind, having held his own obsession with Stair since at least [[July 2018]],<ref name="WCTWiki">[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 "The WCT" - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]</ref> according to a wiki page [[Ego|he made about himself]].<ref>[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history History of the page shows only one contributor, 'BrownHairedDragon'] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210913153431/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history (archive)]</ref><ref name="BrownHairedDragon">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/post-9706881 BrownHairedDragon is confirmed to be Sean himself]</ref>

Sean produced a YouTube documentary on Stair. In [[November 2020]], Chris found the documentary and took an interest in Stair's story, particularly the aspects involving Stair's belief in [[Chris and reality|fictional characters existing in an alternate dimension]].<ref name=discussion>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref>

Chris recorded an audio file to "help [Stair] get a post-death message out," giving the file to Sean.<ref name=discussion></ref>

Over the course of his interactions with Chris, Sean displayed numerous strange behaviors, including seemingly doxxing himself to Chris at one point.<ref name="California">[[Chris channels Randy#"Randy" just starts rambling about the Merge|Chris reveals in a call that he knows Sean's home state.]]</ref>

==Interactions with Bella==
On 13 July 2021, Chris brought up [[Bella]] to Sean, telling Sean she would be accompanying him to [[Everfree Northwest]], as Sean had expressed concern over [[Jacob Sockness]] attending the same con<ref name=EverfreeSecurity>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Everfree security]]</ref> (Sockness had declared plans to attend in disguise to meet with Chris).<ref>{{Cite Reddit
|subreddit=Kidasuna
|title= Going to Ever Free
|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]
|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free
|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}</ref> On 19 July, Chris invited Bella, as well as the [[Suitress]], into the [[Knights of CWC]],<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Invitation]]</ref> a [[Watchmen]] splinter group headed by Sean, and the group discussed plans to protect Chris from Sockness.<ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree8.png]]</ref><ref>[[:File:Discussioneverfree9.png]]</ref>

Bella invited Sean and Chris into her Chess Club Discord server. which they discuss Chris, the Kiwi Farms, with Sean attempting to insinuate (falsely) that he had inside access to [[Null]] and other prominent users, and later asking Bella to assist him in doxing Naught, calling him an "evil man."<ref>[[:File:Sean_bella_allen.png]]</ref>

On 30 July, the [[incest]] call and texts were leaked and Bella was named by [[Null]] as a troll with knowledge of the material.<ref>{{Cite farms
|thread = 96559
|title = Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court
|user = [[Null]]
}}</ref> Sean then questioned Bella, asking for her side of the story.<ref>[[:File:WCT questions Bella.png]]</ref> He then created a group chat, titled Regarding Chris, with Bella and some of the other Knights of CWC members for further questioning.<ref name=regarding>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms]</ref> During the chat, Bella made claims that were later deemed disinformation by observers, such as framing the [[Suitress]] for being the voice in the call.{{refn|group="note"|Noted by observers that Bella's voice matches the voice in the call<ref>{{Cite farms|title=<nowiki>[THREAD RETIRED]</nowiki> Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people|thread=96787|post=9632321}}</ref>}}

On 31 July, Bella uploaded a screenshot into the group chat. The screenshot depicted Chris allegedly discussing practicing BDSM with his mother. Bella claimed that "this is the shit i woke up to the morning after the call." Sean reacted with shock at the screenshot, exclaiming, "WHAT THE FUCK [...] BELLA. WHY IS HE LIKE THIS". Bella goaded Sean to release the screenshot but to leave her name out of it.<ref name=bdsm>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/direct-messages-group-regarding-chris-870798769682276363-html.2416228/ Full HTML file of the "Regarding Chris" chat hosted at Kiwi Farms. Starting at 31-Jul-21 03:49 PM timestamp]</ref> Sean did so, posting the image to [[Kiwi Farms]].<ref>{{Cite farms|title= Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court|thread=96559|post=9586650|user=Psychic Espeon (Sean)}}</ref>

As some posters reacted with skepticism at the image, Sean told Bella that "they want to know if you're credible. people think its fake." Bella then framed the Suitress, saying, "oh how do i proove [...] [the Suitress] has it too". Sean said he would have to name people, and Bella goaded him to name [the Suitress].<ref name=bdsm></ref> He complied, claiming on Kiwi Farms in response to a post insisting he give his source that [the Suitress] had sent him the screenshot; he also decided to post a video featuring her,<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/MhMhrBC A Kiwi Farms post from Sean]</ref> effectively turning attention onto her and revealing her face, linking her likeness to her name which was previously mentioned in the second [[incest call]] leak.

A poster requested that Sean's source explain a discrepancy in the screenshot, and Sean encouraged Bella to "Join the Farms for a bit, don't say you're the "Bella." But just state how you got the screenshot and such."<ref name=bdsm></ref> The screenshot was later deemed fake by observers.{{refn|group="note"|Determined by observers with image analysis<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-retired-isabella-loretta-janke-bella-the-chris-chan-incest-troll-and-her-clique-of-extremely-sick-people.96787/page-644#post-9676103</ref>}}

==Conclusion==

With his last remaining hours of freedom, Chris chose to send his final known online message to Sean Walker, informing him that the pets were being taken care of.<ref>[[Sean Walker Discord DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref> Within a few hours, Chris was [[August 2021 Arrest and Court Case#Arrest|taken into custody]]. With Chris in jail and Sean's identity doxxed by the Farms, he hasn't made a move since this exchange. It remains to be seen if he has plans for when - if ever - Chris gets out of jail, but it's likely his involvement in Chris's life is over.

==Notes==
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==References==
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Talk:Watchmen

2021-11-29T09:34:54Z

Ihasnoname: /* Kyle suicide baiting */

== Title ==

What if we rename this to CPU Gatekeepers? Then move the Arbitarch stuff to a side-note on the page and put back the Gatekeepers summary from Other Enablers? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

:Just Gatekeepers will be better, not everyone is a CPU. Other than that I agree. - [[User:Klop|klop]] ([[User talk:Klop|talk]]) 04:39, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

::Fair point, though Gatekeepers sounds like more of a disambiguation page since other groups have been gatekeepers before. I guess it could work as a temp title until more info comes to light. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:51, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

:How about "The Watchmen". A reference to the classic comic book. Plus I want to call myself Rorschach (since he writes a diary and is almost like a chronicler of events). As of now 4 members are publically known - Me, MKR, Aqua and anameisaname from kiwi farms. - [[User:Klop|klop]] ([[User talk:Klop|talk]]) 03:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

:Sounds good to me. Okay to start sections on Rorschach and anameisaname? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 07:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

== Conflicts on Origins section ==

In the Origins section, someone asked a Watchman about the origins of the group, and the Watchman responded by quoting a section from the [[Guard Dogs]] article which stated that the Guard Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at further conventions.

However, the editor who put that section in has since retracted it for lack of source and said he had probably misread the Kiwi Farms thread. Marvin, one of the Guard Dogs, also stated that Chris was on his own and had no one babysitting him. [[:File:Marvin on conventions claim.png]].

So I'm deleting the Origins section in light of the conflict. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

:So I talked to Naught about the conflict and got some clarifying statements saying that Owls, the original leader of the Watchmen, lied about some things. Will restore the Origins section and incorporate the new statements in. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

== Ongoing? ==

I noticed that the ongoing template was removed. Are they no longer gatekeeping Chris, or was it just removed because they're generally not publicly active? [[User:Lez|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez|talk]]) 08:58, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

:Figured it could be removed since there hasn't been news lately and the page itself isn't frequently updated anymore. Think we should put it back? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

:I think it should regain the ongoing template because while they aren't regularly active, they are still interacting with Chris. The removal of the template suggests that they aren't gatekeepers anymore, which isn't the case as far as I know. I was also thinking about adding a section about how a watchman posted one user's info and links to several of their social media accounts on the CWCki Discord (effectively doxxing that user), which resulted in that watchman (maybe two of them) being banned. It's not closely related to Chris but it would do a good job of showing how they operate. [[User:Abaddon|Abaddon]] ([[User talk:Abaddon|talk]]) 06:10, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

::I agree with Abaddon. They're definitely still interacting with Chris in private, so it should be put back. And adding some of that information regarding how they operate would also be helpful for the article. [[User:Lez|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez|talk]]) 22:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

:::Alright, readded the template. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:25, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

:This is somewhat unrelated to the topic at hand, but can anyone ask if they can get Chris to do more Q&As? It's been nearly half a year since the last one. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 18:17, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

::I unfortunately haven't received any new answers since [[Discord Q&A 11]] (I run the CWC Questions [https://discord.gg/AmeyVxN server] and the [[User:Anaxis/CWC Questions Depository|depository]]), although I am told that Chris does get regular reminders about the Q&A. I hate to say it, but it's really just a waiting game at this point to see if he'll ever get around to it. --[[User:Anaxis|Anaxis]] ([[User talk:Anaxis|talk]]) 01:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

== Should Klop and Anaxis be put under the known members list? ==

It's blatantly obvious now that the two of them were way more involved with the Watchmen and Chris than they ever publicly let on. So should there be sections for them here? [[User:Lez|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez|talk]]) 05:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

:Absolutely. I am curious why they are not here already to be honest. Not including them begins to give an appearance of bias. They are not the only individuals who were involved in these Discords who haven't been named, either. But the information available is still coming out on that and everything is kind of in a state of flux right now, so one thing at a time I guess. [[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 06:24, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Every known member of the Watchmen should be in the article, so yes. Shockingly ironic that a mod of the discord server in which trying to contact Chris is a bannable offense would be in contact with Chris. When did this info surface? [[User:Abaddon|Abaddon]] ([[User talk:Abaddon|talk]]) 06:45, 10 Sep 2021 (UTC)
:Quite recently, as part of a deep dive into the CWCKi server leaks and into Sean's antics generally. Anaxis and Klop are collateral damage, really, but nonetheless information about their role came out and will probably continue to come out. [[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 07:42, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

I just found [[User:Anaxis]] doing essentially what amounts to [https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=The_Journey_to_the_Merge&curid=32303&diff=271732&oldid=267096 wiki-socking with the Lainchu account] (a lot of that going around, eh?), lmao. There's a lot of serious nonsense going on here and I'm sure I'm just scratching the surface by looking into shit casually. You guys need to clean house in a big way. [[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 22:41, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

== Sean Walker ==

Sean has sections on two separate pages on this wiki - one here, one on the [[Bella]] page - which are almost completely identical. This makes things confusing in a bunch of ways (sections may not be completely in sync with each other and have different information, different redirects for his name go to different pages, etc). It's also just very clumsy and awkward.

I see three possible options here:

1. A '''new, separate page''' should be made for Sean, which will be linked on both the Watchmen and Bella articles, with a brief summary of how he was relevant to the corresponding subjects below.

2. '''Remove Sean from the Watchmen article''' and put everything into the Bella article, or vice versa.

3. '''Do nothing,''' and maintain the status quo.

Thoughts? --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 18:16, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

:The first option sounds pretty good to me. There should be enough material for Sean's own article at this point. [[User:Lez|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez|talk]]) 03:49, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

::That was where I was leaning towards too. Seeing as how PsychoNerd is already making the page for Sean, I'm gonna remove the templates from this and the bella article now that it's concluded. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 15:09, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

== Minor members ==

I don't really see what the point of keeping around the sections for minor members like Kyle and Owls is. They were never really relevant in the first place, and now that the Watchmen have disbanded, chances are we'll never hear from them again. I propose we either remove them from the page or split them into a different section called 'minor members' so they don't take attention away from the real important players like Sean and Bismuth. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 17:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

: I asked one of my sources about this. The response was, "minor members? LOL. Owls started the shit and Kyle is besties with MKR and Naught." So, maybe the words you're looking for are "members not involved in any of the big scandals", so I guess in that sense they're minor, but not really. People who were involved with these groups really need to be ''more'' extensively documented, not less. Ignoring and/or covering for up their bullshit and antics has already caused enough problems. The "Knights" don't even have a page on here yet ffs. [[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 05:09, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

:I revised my comment above somewhat as it was a bit over the top, sorry. I'm adding some content on some of these so-called "minor members" and on the Watchmen/Knights schism as well as other individuals who were present in the Discord logs and the general controversies surrounding the Watchmen. The Watchmen generally are ''severely'' underdocumented on this Wiki relative to their involvement with the several Chris-related scandals. It is hard not to ponder whether this is related to the fact that several of their members, ex-members, and associates are prominent on this site. It's astounding to me that these individuals haven't contributed more here given the importance of this topic. This is an extremely bad look for the credibility of this site and anything on it.

:Also, "Naught" I think is the name he is best known by but "Bismuth" was more commonly used in relation to his interactions with Chris. This has the potential to cause confusion. I'd like to refer to him as "Naught" generally with "Bismuth" parenthetically, but wondered other people's thoughts.

:There is quite a bit more to add, both stuff I have in my notes and/or on Kiwi and stuff that still needs researching or might be better added by others. Regrettably I don't (yet) have real names to put to Kyle, Anaxis, etc. but this stuff has a way of eventually getting revealed.

:Lastly, there is one "x" in "dox" and I will die on this hill.

:[[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 14:55, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
::My rationale for removing the minor members was that those sections were extremely short - sometimes to the extent that they messed up the page layout - and remained that way for months without any new stuff being added. I (apparently wrongly) assumed that meant that there wasn't any more relevant information about them ''to'' add, and so proposed removing them from prominence if no one had anything more to add on the subject.
::But if you have new information to add, feel free to expand those sections and move them up the ladder of importance. I've always thought this site didn't really provide a full picture of what exactly happened with the Watchmen and Praetor anyway. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 19:01, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

== Kyle suicide baiting ==

[[User:Hurtful Truth Level]] redacted this:
: Kyle apparently boasted of working at a suicide hotline and inducing callers to go through with taking their own lives<ref name=kylesuicide>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-17264</ref>, something which was revealed in Discord leaks, both audio and text.
<references/>
Which isn't unreasonable, it's a pretty serious accusation and what I wrote doesn't provide direct connection with Chris ''per se''. The reference I cite shows him, MKR, and Naught discussing this suicide-baiting in what I think is the Watchmen Discord. Not all the context is there (unless HTL wants to provide it) but I doubt Chris was present for that conversation, sounds more like it was from the channels where they socialized among themselves without Chris. There is also an accusation in that thread that Sean, Naught and MKR were working together to cause Chris's suicide but I don't trust the source. So ''direct'' connection to Chris? Only in the sense that this shows what kind of person we're talking about who was involved with Chris. Rephrasing the submission so it makes clear that we're not saying Kyle was involved with Sean and ILJ (only that they shared some similar disturbing interests) in response to HTL's other edit makes sense too. But I think that just on the basis of knowing who we're dealing with it's worth documenting. I am not sure of the appropriate Wiki etiquette tbh so will leave for input from others? [[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 18:24, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
:Generally, we try to avoid including excessive information about a subject's life unrelated to Chris, but here, I don't see much of a problem. It's not ''directly'' related to his interactions with Chris, but neither is the passing mention of Bella being "foot fungus-ridden" on [[Isabella Loretta Janke|her page]]. It provides context, and it's informative on what kind of a person Kyle is, so I'd agree that it should stay. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 19:08, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
::I think it can give a misleading picture on his character and role with Chris. Because there's very little about him, so to have the suicide bait thing be the key thing on him, even though it doesn't relate to his dealings with Chris, seems like an issue. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:21, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
:::If this is a "misleading" portrait of Kyle, a person who you should clarify that you have had personal contact with, by the way, then you should share the logs which you have admitted are in your possession if they provide mitigating context to the leak that is on lolcow.org. That you haven't done this suggests strongly that they don't, and thus this begins to look like another instance of people covering for friends. Not, as they say, a good look. The suicide-baiting thing is ''absolutely'' key to understanding his role in this stuff because it tells us a bit about who we are dealing with, both in Kyle's specific case and the general caliber of the people who were interacting with Chris in this way (after all, and again going on the limited leaks we have, MKR and Naught, if not others on the server, seemed to find this all very funny.) Taking it down would not only deprive the Wiki of this information but would further undermine it's credibility in general. [[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 15:18, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

note: I suck at editing im not trying to fuck things up, but this is so stupid.
Kyle was suicidal and he said the worker wanted to kill themselves you absolute fucken speds.

== Merging major and minor ==

I think the major and minor classifications are kind of an issue in that whether a person is considered major or minor is speculation based on amount of public info. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:15, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

: When you're right, you're right. I'm not fond of the division either and you make a valid point that (most of us at least) are working with incomplete information. For all we know there was much more going on that hasn't leaked yet. There probably is. Don't worry. Everything comes out in the end. Someone will get pissed off or clout hungry enough to leak stuff eventually. But for now (a) your suggestion here is sensible and (b) it might be sensible to make some sort of general statement that not all the facts here are public. [[User:SpookyBones|SpookyBones]] ([[User talk:SpookyBones|talk]]) 15:18, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

User talk:Ihasnoname

2021-10-20T08:02:41Z

Ihasnoname: /* Hurtful Truth Level */ new section

{{Protip|DO NOT EDIT THIS PAGE OR ADD ANYTHING TO IT}}
So are you Chris being cryptic, MKR being a troll, or Jacob about to go full retard? [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 17:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
::Probably an insider. Just didn't convey their info properly. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 18:52, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

No. It's far more autistic.
Nah mkr isn't a troll she's a drawfag.
I've been lurking for a while. I was told by other's they'd clear up some inconsistencies after I found out they were lying to Marvin about helping Chris.
Mkr was being used by some fail trolls who make YouTube video's. Smokey Chris TheSperge kappn kyu astro were gatekeeping the now destroyed footage Joseph Draft recorded for his documentary.

Smokey Chris is Steven Reynolds, TheSperge is Kevin T and brombeer on kiwi farm's, kappn is a female pegasister talia nakara is a fail troll first name Patrick, owls is an epic failure name Ryan Winger and ghostbird50 on kiwi farms, kyu astro all involved. Joseph Draft got involved with them. They tried to hold the footage hostage but slipped up by creating the arbitarch server based on existing art.

their current discord server linked here and the channel linked above
https://discord.gg/vf3RZA

They were also involved in the cwcville rebellion another previous fail troll Op.
https://twitter.com/VilleCwc

Sammi the Angel
A-46 West to east Midlands
@BiscuitBanna#6832
https://twitter.com/SammiTheAngel1/status/1286239046797230080
Colluded with Jacob sockness and daughters of inana.
Admitted too having at least 1 kiwi farm's account. He might be the necro poster in mkrs thread since the Google hangouts link was only sent in dms.

Carrie Krueger used to be Drew Pickles
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt6tIn4o_yEEQZkFF6TUeQg

== Hurtful Truth Level ==

i admire your dedication @Hurtful Truth Level , you seemed to be one of the only true "chaotic neutral" parties in the cwc sphere, that's why when it was revealed you decided to side with Wct i was dissapoint, as shown in an earlier entry here i came to the cwcki in good faith when things got a little too surreal and in return the cwcki labeled the group word spread and things got infinitely worse and dealing with failfags become more difficult since lolcalfs, kiwis and cwckifags were now biting at my ankles.
i dont want gamer justice or any nonsense, tbh i'd like null to unban me and i'd go shitpost about something else, but it seems someone is whispering in nulls ear about me, saying i promote a false narrative peddled by ralph.
anyway, take care Hurtful it was fun shitposting with you man, it'd be neat to see you at one of the splinters.

User talk:Ihasnoname

2020-08-10T08:41:21Z

Ihasnoname: Da lore

So are you Chris being cryptic, MKR being a troll, or Jacob about to go full retard? [[User:Homsar|Homsar]] ([[User talk:Homsar|talk]]) 17:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
::Probably an insider. Just didn't convey their info properly. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 18:52, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

No. It's far more autistic.
Nah mkr isn't a troll she's a drawfag.
I've been lurking for a while. I was told by other's they'd clear up some inconsistencies after I found out they were lying to Marvin about helping Chris.
Mkr was being used by some fail trolls who make YouTube video's. Smokey Chris TheSperge kappn kyu astro were gatekeeping the now destroyed footage Joseph Draft recorded for his documentary.

Smokey Chris is Steven Reynolds, TheSperge is Kevin T and brombeer on kiwi farm's, kappn is a female pegasister talia nakara is a fail troll first name Patrick, owls is an epic failure name Ryan Winger and ghostbird50 on kiwi farms, kyu astro all involved. Joseph Draft got involved with them. They tried to hold the footage hostage but slipped up by creating the arbitarch server based on existing art.

their current discord server linked here and the channel linked above
https://discord.gg/vf3RZA

They were also involved in the cwcville rebellion another previous fail troll Op.
https://twitter.com/VilleCwc

Sammi the Angel
A-46 West to east Midlands
@BiscuitBanna#6832
https://twitter.com/SammiTheAngel1/status/1286239046797230080
Colluded with Jacob sockness and daughters of inana.
Admitted too having at least 1 kiwi farm's account. He might be the necro poster in mkrs thread since the Google hangouts link was only sent in dms.

Carrie Krueger used to be Drew Pickles
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt6tIn4o_yEEQZkFF6TUeQg

User:Ihasnoname

2020-08-10T08:28:08Z

Ihasnoname:

Here to add some context.
Edit: never create a shared account.

User:Ihasnoname

2020-08-07T04:55:37Z

Ihasnoname: 06/08/20 Chris is hung up on the wallflower; reached out no reply. In the cwc contemplates making a last will and testament.

CwC remains interested in the wallflower who cwc messaged. No reply..

CwC hints at a last will and testament after reminiscing about gal pals.