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User:Jelq

2022-03-05T11:56:16Z

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Biology

2021-10-23T10:50:00Z

Jelq:

{{Merge|1=Chris and science}}
{{Incomplete}}
{{Honest}}
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|At one point in his life, Chris believed that it was possible to 'recycle' his [[Navy]] by drinking it; while he was technically recycling the nutrients, he didn't understand that during digestion, it would be destroyed rather than re-enter the body the same as when it left.]]
'''Biology''' is the natural [[science]] that studies life and living organisms, including their physical structure, chemical processes, molecular interactions, physiological mechanisms, development and evolution.
Chris has talked a lot about biology yet lacks the knowledge, or common sense, of how the body works due to his damaged perception of it from media and television. He then ensues that he is in fact studied on it when really the most he knows would be about the same of 2nd Graders on the play ground discussing Lara Crofts breasts.

==Reproductive biology==
One of the most well known facts about Chris is that he used to [[Recycling|drink his semen]]. Chris believed that the male reproductive system has a limited amount of sperm cells that decreases every time he [[mass debating|nuts]]. To counteract this supposed decrease, he drank his own semen to make sure he can get potential [[Sweetheart|sweethearts]] (and [[Julie|13 year old boys]] pretending to be said sweethearts) pregnant. Although he has given up this act in more recent years, [[Chris's Specimen Sample|a video from 27 February 2016]] shows that he now believes keeping semen inside his refrigerator will keep it viable not knowing that is actually kills the cells. Ultimately, the only thing this will do is give him ice cubes to use in his Fanta.

Chris also supported a claim that transgender women can get periods<ref>https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1016786884192808962</ref>, which is false. Abdominal cramps are common for biological women during periods; for MTF women, this is impossible due the lack of a uterus. Feeling under the weather is also a common symptom of periods caused due to changes in hormones released by the female brain and uterus since Chris lacks both a uterus and common sense he is imagining his symptoms. While ''it is'' in theory possible to experience a form of sympathetic pain (pain felt by directly witnessing or viewing someone else in pain) related to periods, given Chris's [[My Little Pony|preferred]] [[Video games|viewing]] [[Anime|habits]] and [[Chris and mental healthcare|general apathy]], it is unlikely this is the source of what he claims to feel.

===Penis===
Chris has been known to have a few misconceptions about male genitalia, one of the many problems Chris consistently suffers from with his is Urinary Tract Infections (UTIs), due to his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|issues]] with [[SingStar Challenge Round 5|sanitation]], brought on by [[Chris and work|sloth]] and poor [[Barbara|parental]] influence. He also once believed the product {{w|ExtenZe}} was capable of enlarging the penis outside of puberty, which proved to be untrue, due to lack of results, and so Chris stopped using it fairly quickly. Chris also seems to be under a very strong impression that the size of the genitalia has a large bearing on one's social status,<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> or pleasure in sex, since he has often vastly over-estimated its size. He readily claims it to be 6 inches,<ref>[[Chris humps his PS3]]</ref> however most visual evidence suggests that it is perhaps from 3 to 5 inches.

Chris also seems to think that the penis is an outwardly grown clitoris.<Ref>[[March 2017 Facebook Posts#Transgenders in locker rooms]]</ref> This, of course is inaccurate, due to their vast difference in functions, and could be a misinterpretation of the way fetuses form their genitalia in the womb.

===Sexual Reassignment===
Chris has been known to have a [[Un-clit#September_18th_Facebook_Status|negative opinion]] of [[duck|male genitalia]], so when he officially became a trans-woman he saw fit to exchange his pickle for some [[china]]. However, surgery is notoriously expensive in the USA, and unfortunately no current health insurance plans cover delusions and [[magical thinking]], so Chris had to do it the old fashioned way: [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]. Despite the apparent ineffectiveness of the Aural treatment at first, Chris could feel the vagina growing inside of him, so he freed it by [[Self-inflicted taint wound|cutting open his taint with a kitchen knife]]. Unfortunately, this still did not provide results that Chris was happy with, having only his pickle and a wound on his taint to show for his very careful meditations and precise surgical project. Chris has not tried to conduct any sexual reassignment that we know of since.

If he does eventually want to complete his sexual reassignment surgery, it is recommended that he should seek the guidance a healthcare professional. However, it is uncertain if there is a possibility of Chris ever being in a [[debt|financial position]] to pay for the surgery.

=== Vagina ===
[[File:MaryWantsIt.JPG|thumb|Mary Lee Walsh's china seems oddly positioned.]]
[[File:ShecameforCWC_(200803).JPG|thumb|How to ruin a friendship in the most thorough of ways.]]

Having been a [[virgin with rage]] in the past, Chris's constant involvement with [[Kimmi|sex dolls]] and piles upon piles of [[porn]] have warped his perception of what a vagina truly is. Having used sex dolls, Chris often locates the vagina as higher than it should be (i.e; below the belly button), indicating that he thinks that vaginas are located on a woman in the same place that a penis is on a man. One of the photos that Chris uploaded in his [[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica|edit war against Encyclopedia Dramatica]] features [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Walsh is depicted stroking her genitalia, wanting a [[Jerkop]] [[Niggos|slave]] to lick her pussy. Her vagina is clearly deformed, having the ability to stretch as much as Chris depicted, opening at the diameter of a normal person's hand-span, something that can only be achieved through years of fisting, meaning [[Count Graduon]] has been of more use to her than once implied.

Another instance of Chris proving his ignorance of basic female anatomy is the infamous ShecameforCWC.JPG image. Not only is [[Megan|Megan's]] torso completely straight and has no waist, but once again Chris makes the vaginal opening far too large and uses blue lines to depict [[Masturbating and squirtin'|her squirtin']], causing it to look like she has blue pubic hair or her vagina is glowing.

==Neuroscience==
Chris rejects the notion that Asperger's syndrome is equal to autism, though it is a well proven fact in the scientific community. He thinks that people with Asperger's steal the limelight from people with autism, though this doesn't make any sense since not only are both of them on the same spectrum, but Asperger's is considered the same as the [[high-functioning autism]] that Chris is quick to call himself.

Chris believes that the mind and body are separate entities where the mind can move between different bodies I.e the body is nothing more than a vessel for his mind. This has never been proved and most research points to different inter-neuronal connections being the reason for different personalities.

==Health and Disease==
Chris relationship with health and disease is hit or miss that is, he is hit with diseases and misses health.

During the [[COVID-19]] pandemic Chris refused to learn about the symptoms of the virus saying it will make him more prone to being infected. He also watched the anime ''Cells at Work'', a series featuring anthropomorphic blood cells taking care of a human body and claimed it would boost his immune system. Possibly thinking being worried of the disease will weaken his immune system and being happy will increase his immunity.

==References==
<references/>
{{Education}}
{{Health}}

Talk:Mathematics

2021-10-23T10:49:37Z

Jelq: /* Merge with Chris and science */ new section

Honest question, should this really be an article? First of all, not much has been documented in terms of Chris's mathematical literacy, plus, the article itself is still somewhat of a stub. Second, a lot of what is stated here, could easily just be mentioned in [[Chris and reality]]/ - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]]

Yeah, math isn't something that's associated with Chris, like Writing and Art are, so no need for it to be a Chris And page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:32, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't think it should be merged with Chris and reality. That's for his reality denying beliefs like having magical powers and CWCville and the Sonichus actually existing. Chris has made a ton of other ridiculous mathematical claims like having over a billion fans, Patti's dog house weighing 10 tons, and the [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]]. Those are all under other articles or chat logs. If anything this page should be merged with [[Honor roll]], but even that's a bit of a stretch. We just don't have many people editing the CWCki anymore so people aren't adding other examples to the page, just like [[List of Chris's Lies]] is missing some more recent and smaller things.
-[[User:TypicalJERKMale|TypicalJERKMale]]

The [[CWCki:Improvement#Rewrite.2FExpand|Improvement page]] said that this page needs a "complete rework", I'd like to make a start on this, but I would like to know where to start, what kinds of sections should we have? Should we have sections explaining Chris's issues with certain parts of mathematics instead of all the examples? Or instead of splitting it up into the different sections of mathematics, should we oder it another way? [[User:Byzantine|Byzantine]] ([[User talk:Byzantine|talk]]) 21:41, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

== Merge with Chris and science ==

This article is unwarranted imho, can just fit in chris and science. Same with biology, the entire thing should be merged for clarity's sake.

Mathematics

2021-10-23T10:48:34Z

Jelq: Replaced Chris_and_science with Chris and science

{{Merge|1=Chris and science}}

{{quote|I EXCELLED IN MATH TOO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|Wikipedia page]]}}
[[File:Dimensional Merge math on McDonalds napkin.jpg|thumb|Chris attempting to calculate the number of casualties of the [[Dimensional Merge]] on a napkin]]
'''Mathematics''' ("math" or "[[Catherine|maths]]" for short) is the study of quantity, numbers, space, and change. As with many [[autistic]]s, Chris displays a fascination with numbers, but despite his [[honor roll]] status, he has a weak grasp on the subject. There are countless examples of his mathematical errors, including errors of basic arithmetic, as well as quantity, measurement, weight, and time.

==Chris on mathematics==
Chris has stated on at least one occasion that his math education goes all the way up to college Trigonometry, which shows that at some point he's also learned at least some college-level algebra and geometry, as they are both prerequisites to a typical trigonometry course. He has [[ego|bragged]] to [[Julie]] about how he's "a pretty good math genius." He claims he received A's in his math classes. However, he hasn't used his supposed talent to his advantage by getting a [[job]] in a technical field.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/BlueSpike_PSN_Chat_2</ref> On his [[Wikipedia]] page, he cited his mathematical talent as proof he should have received an award at graduation. In [[Mumble 2]], he said he got into a ''car crash'' while doing math in his head.

==Examples of Chris's Mathematical Blunders==

===Algebra===
*[[Planet Dolan]] artist VimHomless made a post joking about how butts are greater than water (written as "Butts > Water"), to which Chris took to mean, taking the greater than symbol (>) to mean less than (<), "Water is more important than butts".<ref>[[January 2018 tweets]]</ref> Considering the post was made by a porn artist, and one which Chris follows no less, it is more than shocking to see that he couldn't have made this connection. Two days after that post was made, Chris made another response to 2D animator Spinalpalm, in which he says that salted butter is better than unsalted butter (written as Salted butter > Unsalted butter). This time around, Chris actually understood the underlying message, and agreed with Spinalpalm about the topic,<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/951973094561927168</ref> meaning that he must have figured out the meaning of the greater than symbol after several other users corrected him.

===Arithmetic===
*[[CWCville]]'s currency is made up of "C-quarters" and "W-quarters". According to the ''Sonichu'' canon, 10 C-quarters make up a single W-quarter, which makes no sense considering what the word "quarter" means.

*When a clerk told Chris he was $2 short of affording his junk food, he was left dumbfounded as to what he should do. Another customer in line gave Chris $2 to make up the deficit, and instead of handing it to the clerk to pay off his [[Chris and money|debt]], Chris simply ''took that money, the food, and left the store over everyone's protests''.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180721232218/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-601</ref>

*According to Chris, if he lived in Equestria, he'd be 1,050 years old, because one year on Equestria is equal to 30 Earth Years, while [[Night Star]] is 19 years old in human years, but 570 in pony years. <ref>[[November 2017 Patreon posts#Night Star's age]]</ref> Because Chris has this [[Autism|fixation for his birthdate]], he decided to give her the birth date, 24 February, 1982, which is apparently the year 967 in Pony Years. Only checking after he's made his statement, Chris did the math to confirm this. In a later Facebook post, Chris stated that 30 out of 365.25 Earth Days is equal to 11 Earth Days for each birthday, in reality, 30 ÷ 365.25 is approximately eight-hundreths. Even more pathetic is how he wrote the quotient as divided 30 by 365 instead of the other way around, and still got it wrong, as 365.25 ÷ 30 is equal to 12.175, which cannot be rounded down to 11. In his flawed math though, he had found that her actual birth date in Pony years should be 19 February, 939.

*In [[Sonichu 10]], the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] tower collapses, with 1,500 people in it. According to Chris, 500 were "prefectly [sic] unharmed"; 250 were too drunk to escape on their own (125 of these drunk trolls managed to get out alive with help from sober trolls, while 125 of the drunk trolls were hurt, injured or killed); 125 sober trolls were hurt, injured or killed; 250 others were injured; 150 others were "safe but hurt"; and 100 were killed. Not only are we left in the dark about what happened to the 125 drunk troll casualties, this total also only accounts for 1,375 people.

===Estimation/Measurement===

*When exercising by lifting two boxes of 12-pack lemonade, he estimated that the 4.26 liters of lemonade he was lifting weighed about 50 pounds, when in fact this volume of water weighs less than ten.

*In the chair lifting video, Chris claimed the chair he was lifting weighed "a grand number of pounds."

*Chris repeatedly claims to have D-cup breasts. In his [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+|breast massage]] video, Chris measures his chest and underbust as 44 and 40 inches respectively, and says that makes him a D cup. In reality, it makes him a B cup. Also, the conventional method for breast measurement does not work for [[tomgirl|trans women]], mainly because of chest girth, so Chris is actually closer to an A cup.

*In the famous [[Father Call]], Chris seemed to believe a dog house made of plastic and wood weighed 5 to 10 tons (10,000-20,000 pounds), and was heavier than any tombstone (which tend to weigh an average of about 80 pounds). Essentially, Chris believes that plastic and wood would weigh more than solid stone.

*After [[Walking to the post office#Chris is back home|walking]] 8 miles to and from the post office, Chris vastly underestimated the entire journey to have only been 2 miles.

*Chris has tried to describe a number of everyday things like love and respect using all kinds of scales and numbers. His most famous example, the [[Heart Level]], measures his emotional state. Another example, the [[Scale of Respect]] is meant to be used to measure Chris' respect for certain individuals.

*In one of Chris's early maps of CWCVille, the dimensions of its sectors/divisions are clearly out of scale. Even with Chris's reassurance that his [[CADD]] skills are at play, it's pretty easy for even a child to point out the errors in his judgement.

[[Image:CWCvilleMapProper.jpg|thumb|center|Making draftsmen and urban planners proud!]]

*In [[Sonichu #1]], Black Sonichu is supposed to spin-dash at 200 rotations per minute, which is supposed to mean that he does it at high speeds. This actually roughly translates to 3 per second.

===Geometry===
*In one of his tirades towards the [[HEXBox|Xbox]], Chris said that the angle of half a circle is 120º, then revised his claim to 130º.<ref>[[Chris humps his PS3]]</ref>

===Number Systems===

*Chris's reports of how much [[Cherokee]] blood he has have been inconsistent. When he [[Jackie E-mails 16|emailed Jackie]], he stated he was 1/16 Cherokee, but he later [[Regina e-mails|told Regina]] that he was 1/32 Cherokee. Finally, when talking to [[Emily]], he claimed [[Bob]] was at least one-fourth Cherokee, which would make Chris at least one-eighth Cherokee, not 1/16 or 1/32.

*To avoid assigning an "unlucky number" to his Night Star comic, Chris decided to number the comic as Sonichu #12-9, using an em-dash in place a decimal point. This could make sense if it referred to the ninth part of the issue, but Chris clearly intends it as a fractional amount of "almost 13".

===Statistics & Probability===
*Chris coined the term "[[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]]", the probability that a woman he is trying to latch onto isn't [[boyfriend-free|single]], in which he claims that he doesn't hate only one 4 billionth of all males.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and reality]]
*[[Honor Roll]]

==References==
<references />
{{Education}}
[[Category:Education]]

Mathematics

2021-10-23T10:48:08Z

Jelq: Let's merge these. Might do it myself today.

{{Merge|1=Chris_and_science}}

{{quote|I EXCELLED IN MATH TOO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|Wikipedia page]]}}
[[File:Dimensional Merge math on McDonalds napkin.jpg|thumb|Chris attempting to calculate the number of casualties of the [[Dimensional Merge]] on a napkin]]
'''Mathematics''' ("math" or "[[Catherine|maths]]" for short) is the study of quantity, numbers, space, and change. As with many [[autistic]]s, Chris displays a fascination with numbers, but despite his [[honor roll]] status, he has a weak grasp on the subject. There are countless examples of his mathematical errors, including errors of basic arithmetic, as well as quantity, measurement, weight, and time.

==Chris on mathematics==
Chris has stated on at least one occasion that his math education goes all the way up to college Trigonometry, which shows that at some point he's also learned at least some college-level algebra and geometry, as they are both prerequisites to a typical trigonometry course. He has [[ego|bragged]] to [[Julie]] about how he's "a pretty good math genius." He claims he received A's in his math classes. However, he hasn't used his supposed talent to his advantage by getting a [[job]] in a technical field.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/BlueSpike_PSN_Chat_2</ref> On his [[Wikipedia]] page, he cited his mathematical talent as proof he should have received an award at graduation. In [[Mumble 2]], he said he got into a ''car crash'' while doing math in his head.

==Examples of Chris's Mathematical Blunders==

===Algebra===
*[[Planet Dolan]] artist VimHomless made a post joking about how butts are greater than water (written as "Butts > Water"), to which Chris took to mean, taking the greater than symbol (>) to mean less than (<), "Water is more important than butts".<ref>[[January 2018 tweets]]</ref> Considering the post was made by a porn artist, and one which Chris follows no less, it is more than shocking to see that he couldn't have made this connection. Two days after that post was made, Chris made another response to 2D animator Spinalpalm, in which he says that salted butter is better than unsalted butter (written as Salted butter > Unsalted butter). This time around, Chris actually understood the underlying message, and agreed with Spinalpalm about the topic,<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/951973094561927168</ref> meaning that he must have figured out the meaning of the greater than symbol after several other users corrected him.

===Arithmetic===
*[[CWCville]]'s currency is made up of "C-quarters" and "W-quarters". According to the ''Sonichu'' canon, 10 C-quarters make up a single W-quarter, which makes no sense considering what the word "quarter" means.

*When a clerk told Chris he was $2 short of affording his junk food, he was left dumbfounded as to what he should do. Another customer in line gave Chris $2 to make up the deficit, and instead of handing it to the clerk to pay off his [[Chris and money|debt]], Chris simply ''took that money, the food, and left the store over everyone's protests''.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180721232218/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-601</ref>

*According to Chris, if he lived in Equestria, he'd be 1,050 years old, because one year on Equestria is equal to 30 Earth Years, while [[Night Star]] is 19 years old in human years, but 570 in pony years. <ref>[[November 2017 Patreon posts#Night Star's age]]</ref> Because Chris has this [[Autism|fixation for his birthdate]], he decided to give her the birth date, 24 February, 1982, which is apparently the year 967 in Pony Years. Only checking after he's made his statement, Chris did the math to confirm this. In a later Facebook post, Chris stated that 30 out of 365.25 Earth Days is equal to 11 Earth Days for each birthday, in reality, 30 ÷ 365.25 is approximately eight-hundreths. Even more pathetic is how he wrote the quotient as divided 30 by 365 instead of the other way around, and still got it wrong, as 365.25 ÷ 30 is equal to 12.175, which cannot be rounded down to 11. In his flawed math though, he had found that her actual birth date in Pony years should be 19 February, 939.

*In [[Sonichu 10]], the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] tower collapses, with 1,500 people in it. According to Chris, 500 were "prefectly [sic] unharmed"; 250 were too drunk to escape on their own (125 of these drunk trolls managed to get out alive with help from sober trolls, while 125 of the drunk trolls were hurt, injured or killed); 125 sober trolls were hurt, injured or killed; 250 others were injured; 150 others were "safe but hurt"; and 100 were killed. Not only are we left in the dark about what happened to the 125 drunk troll casualties, this total also only accounts for 1,375 people.

===Estimation/Measurement===

*When exercising by lifting two boxes of 12-pack lemonade, he estimated that the 4.26 liters of lemonade he was lifting weighed about 50 pounds, when in fact this volume of water weighs less than ten.

*In the chair lifting video, Chris claimed the chair he was lifting weighed "a grand number of pounds."

*Chris repeatedly claims to have D-cup breasts. In his [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+|breast massage]] video, Chris measures his chest and underbust as 44 and 40 inches respectively, and says that makes him a D cup. In reality, it makes him a B cup. Also, the conventional method for breast measurement does not work for [[tomgirl|trans women]], mainly because of chest girth, so Chris is actually closer to an A cup.

*In the famous [[Father Call]], Chris seemed to believe a dog house made of plastic and wood weighed 5 to 10 tons (10,000-20,000 pounds), and was heavier than any tombstone (which tend to weigh an average of about 80 pounds). Essentially, Chris believes that plastic and wood would weigh more than solid stone.

*After [[Walking to the post office#Chris is back home|walking]] 8 miles to and from the post office, Chris vastly underestimated the entire journey to have only been 2 miles.

*Chris has tried to describe a number of everyday things like love and respect using all kinds of scales and numbers. His most famous example, the [[Heart Level]], measures his emotional state. Another example, the [[Scale of Respect]] is meant to be used to measure Chris' respect for certain individuals.

*In one of Chris's early maps of CWCVille, the dimensions of its sectors/divisions are clearly out of scale. Even with Chris's reassurance that his [[CADD]] skills are at play, it's pretty easy for even a child to point out the errors in his judgement.

[[Image:CWCvilleMapProper.jpg|thumb|center|Making draftsmen and urban planners proud!]]

*In [[Sonichu #1]], Black Sonichu is supposed to spin-dash at 200 rotations per minute, which is supposed to mean that he does it at high speeds. This actually roughly translates to 3 per second.

===Geometry===
*In one of his tirades towards the [[HEXBox|Xbox]], Chris said that the angle of half a circle is 120º, then revised his claim to 130º.<ref>[[Chris humps his PS3]]</ref>

===Number Systems===

*Chris's reports of how much [[Cherokee]] blood he has have been inconsistent. When he [[Jackie E-mails 16|emailed Jackie]], he stated he was 1/16 Cherokee, but he later [[Regina e-mails|told Regina]] that he was 1/32 Cherokee. Finally, when talking to [[Emily]], he claimed [[Bob]] was at least one-fourth Cherokee, which would make Chris at least one-eighth Cherokee, not 1/16 or 1/32.

*To avoid assigning an "unlucky number" to his Night Star comic, Chris decided to number the comic as Sonichu #12-9, using an em-dash in place a decimal point. This could make sense if it referred to the ninth part of the issue, but Chris clearly intends it as a fractional amount of "almost 13".

===Statistics & Probability===
*Chris coined the term "[[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor]]", the probability that a woman he is trying to latch onto isn't [[boyfriend-free|single]], in which he claims that he doesn't hate only one 4 billionth of all males.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and reality]]
*[[Honor Roll]]

==References==
<references />
{{Education}}
[[Category:Education]]

Incest Call

2021-10-23T10:36:15Z

Jelq: Added the transcription to the leak #3

{{Incomplete}}

The '''incest call''' refers to a video call which took place between Chris and [[Bella]] in the early morning hours of 28 [[July 2021]].<ref name=BellaReaction>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Bella reacts to incest call]]</ref>

In the call, Chris discusses him and his mother having engaged in substantial sexual activity.

Audio from the call was publicly leaked multiple times with varying amounts of censorship. The first leak by [[the Suitress]] had a runtime of about 4 minutes and consisted only of Chris's voice, followed a few hours later by another cut with Bella's voice retained. In the following days more material was leaked by Bella, with the longest version being just over 21 minutes long. All leaked recordings have notable cuts in the audio.

Bella has claimed the full call lasted around four hours and that the bulk of conversation was a "long and actually very pleasant talk", but the full conversation was not recorded due to her iPad cutting off the recording.<ref name=BellaReaction/>

==Video==
{{Censor|person=the Suitress|type=video}}
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| name = Incest Discussion
| ytid = E1pNvrqpx04
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| stardate = 28 July 2021 (leaked 3 [[August 2021]])
| saga = {{Bella|text}} {{Incest|text}}
| previous =
| next =
}}

===Transcript===


'''CHRIS''': ...We pro- we proceeded towards it more slowly.

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm putting the volume, for my- I can't- I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. It's hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS:''' "Not too many, not too many individuals this side of the [[Dimensional Merge|iron curtain]] were coming up to plate right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the- everything was coming into good alignment and it was, the signs were all [inaudible] [[Chris and religion#Concept of Emanuelle|Emanuelle]], you know, God, just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine!'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best ways to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously, tale- the incest fanfics have come true and shit."


'''BELLA''': I didn't even know there was such a thing! I didn't even know there was incest fanficsh- were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that I- I knew that you guys had a good ''relationship'', but I always thought- 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and y'know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I- I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had- I didn't have any idea that Barbara was, um, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those, uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I approached her with care and caution. And... it was a timed approach. So I just, gave her comfort, to talked with her, and we just branched out slow and steady, and that night I encouraged her positively, let ''her'' make the first move, 'cause she wanted to do it an'...

'''BELLA''' (interrupting): Oh, she did? Really? She made the first move?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Oh. Oh, really? Wow, ''Barbara'', ha ha! How- how did she do, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] Uh, I don't remember exact- well, that was her first move but my approach was... Hm. Well, I forgot exactly what it- what terminology approach I used but, care and caution.

'''BELLA''': That's good.

'''CHRIS''': And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.

'''BELLA''': That's good. And how did she respond when you, uh, when you, um, approached her? What did she say?

'''CHRIS''': I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was [[Rape|partially confused]] at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.

'''BELLA''': Right, so she... so she got into it. How was the first kiss? You kissed her? How did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life, how did that feel?

'''CHRIS''': Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right.

'''BELLA''': When did you start having feelings for Barbara?


'''CHRIS''': Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of my videos that I even had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So...

'''BELLA''': Really, yeah? Is that, um, I- I- I've heard of- I don't know what it is, per, uh, per se, but, is that what Oh-dipus complex is called, is when, uh, um, is when, you like your mother? Is that what it's called, I don't know what it means, though, I just thought, I thought, I just thought might be.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, the uh, that's right, the {{w|Oedipus complex}}.

'''BELLA''': Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right, ennh... how, how if you don't mind me asking it, I know it's probably personal, you don't have to ''answer'', but... how is the sex?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory, it took a while, took a few tries to...

'''BELLA''': [''giggling''] It took a few tries? Yeah... she is o- she is ''older''...

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, plus, uh, also she's very exstanding about the whole thing as well, I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, made sure that I, yeah, obviously, I'm never gonna propose marriage to her at all 'cause we're already daughter and... mom...

'''BELLA''': Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter, that's true. I'm- I'm pretty close to my mom, I don't- I don't think I'd be ''that'' close, but... I do- I do in some ways project, you know, the kind of woman I'm interested in, with the kind of woman my mother is, and I didn't realize it until I got older. I was like, wow! She's- she's not- she kind of, y'know, similar- has similar qualities to my mother! And I think, 'Oh! Well, shoot!' Um, I'm very- I'm glad that you're telling me, because a lot of people would hold this inside, and it would tear them apart, you know, but then again, yeah your, your body is, um, your body now, isn't it
only like a projection of your true form? Aren't you from like, you're from like another dimension, right? You're a Sonichu.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, well, not really a projection because this body is interdimensional. [''continues speaking, inaudible as Bella cuts him off'']

'''BELLA''': Yeah, it's interdimensional. But are you related to Barbara in, um, are you related to Barbara, in like, um, the different dimensions?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I'm not sure how to answer that question off the bat right now, 'cause-

'''BELLA''': Right. You're just still figuring it out. How long have you two been going at it?

'''CHRIS''': Well, we've been um, doing it every third n-

[''Bella sneezes'']

'''BELLA''': Sorry?

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, at least you have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, that's sweet. That's sweet. I call my girlfriend 'love' too. Well, I used to, the old one, haha. I- I don't- you're- you're in a relationship and I'm not, so you're- you're more experienced than I am, definitely. But you recently started dating [the Suitress], isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you? I always thought the dentist was a sham, because whenever I- because they say i'm genetically prone to get cavities, even though I brush my teeth all the time, and no matter how I brush my teeth and floss and I get a cavity. The thing is if you ignore it i mean by ignore you like take care of it yourself it goes away for me. But I never- I don't think I've ever got a crown in, yeah. I've gotten- gotten a gold over here."


'''CHRIS''': Yeah, well, anyway. Uh, so I had to get roots now, before [?]

'''BELLA''': Right. Ow, that hurts, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, I could- Yeah, I could appreciate that as well, but... uh, she's not exactly one for the shopping time, but- ['''BELLA''': Right.] Yeah, all these- ['''BELLA''': Right.] It wasn't- She's still trying to remember her inner child... ['''BELLA''': Right, that's true, yeah.] ...might as well, but I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy? Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, obviously, but, y'know, obviously, if I could find some...

'''BELLA''': There's [the Suitress]! [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! [The Suitress]- yeah, [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! She's a super-girl. Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': I have foreseen- I have lived in the future, and I know she's gonna find her better, long-term sweetheart.

'''BELLA''': [The Suitress]?

'''CHRIS''': On campus.

'''BELLA''': Are you sure? ['''CHRIS''': Yeah.] Because [the Suitress]- [the Suitress] talks to me, saying how great you are, and how much she loves you, right? Maybe 'cause the future can change, with fate?

'''CHRIS''': Um, it's a possibility, but it's-

'''BELLA''': Why don't you try for her? Because- y'know- 'cause [stammers] [the Suitress] consented [?] to having an open relationship, right? I'm sure she's- you're fine, with, uh, both of them now. BUt, over time, [the Suitress] really, really, really adores you. And she's a wonderful girl. I text her a lot, we chat. We, um- She has never said a single negative thing about you. She- She adores you, like, and- She'll be more open to stuff like, you know, having spa days, getting pizza, going out together, you know, and, she's um, she's probably newer in the bedroom, but she's willing to do it. She's willing to have fun with you.

'''CHRIS''': Yes, I agree. And I appreciate all that, yeah, I'm making the uh, short time, as a short time, count, as best as I can with her.

'''BELLA''': Oh, I understand.

'''CHRIS''': ...we're seen out and about [?] in the future, plus, I don't want to take her away from the colleges she chose to go to, which I'm sure, is still in [presumably the Suitress's home state] right there.

'''BELLA''': Uh, how far away do you live- um, from [presumably the Suitress's home state]? Because I almost- I was gonna go to [presumably the Suitress's home state].

'''CHRIS''': Um, [presumably the Suitress's home state] [stammers] is on the West Coast, and Virginia is on the East Coast.

'''BELLA''': Right, right. And plus, she's young! She has a lot of time to, um, she has a lot of time to travel, visit you, I mean- You've done long distance before, haven't you?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, a long-distance relationships, but- [''Bella coughs loudly'']

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, they suck. I know they suck, but what's important is that you make, uh, you make a relationship with her now, and that way, it'll stay, like, forever! And she'll come back to you, like she'll come back to you, I'm sure!

'''CHRIS''': Yes, it is a possibility, but I am more- I am more open. I'm thinking more on the higher-likelihood outcomes for this timeline, obviously.

'''BELLA''': Oops, sorry, just trying to get adjusted. Okay, that makes sense. Goober- okay, Goober, buddy. There you go. He was just tryin' to get my lip [?]

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame.

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push it with <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[The Suitress]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."



'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. I'll have- I'll have just a screenshot- like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, um. You, uh- Oh, the dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': Well, we'll see. We'll see what we can arrange, because she obviously- because she only has the hotel room for the Friday night, and she would want to get home as- get home as quickly as possible, as she already... [inaudible] ...with her parents, and I don't want to- [Bella coughs loudly]

'''BELLA''': Oh yeah, her mom is pretty strict, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, but I mean, obviously, if she is, obviously, she is likely to, uh, head back home before the [unintelligible]

'''BELLA''': Oh, is she? Oh, no! I wanted to- I wanted to dance with her! Because I thought it'd be- Because I thought it'd be so cute! Because- since I'm there to protect you guys, right? I obviously, I'm gonna be enjoying the festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like um, I wanted to make a uh oh like slideshow, and like memory thingy. Of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have --"

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': Uh, yeah, like again. My main job is photographer and bodyguard, but, I could dance for a little, take photos of other ladies I might wanna dance with, y'know, have fun, [''trails off'']. You know don't- don't just limit yourself, and I- I- I appreciate that you like um, the idea of um, open relationships, right? But, if, uh, [the Suitress] really wants to like, commit and settle down with you would you take that seriously and stop having open relationships?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I- I would consider... I really would wish I could consider [Bella coughs] I did, obviously. I don't want to take her away from her college. She still has a lot to learn for herself and experience.

'''BELLA''': What if she- What if- I get that, but what if, in like ten years, after she's done with college, and you still have a good relationship, and she's grown to be a beautiful woman, and y'know, everything, she says, "Christine, I really really really want to settle down with you. I love you from the bottom of my heart." What would you do?

'''CHRIS''': Well, okay well, after she's done with college and she's got herself organized, uh, on the highly highly unlikely event... for this timeline that she ''doesn't'' meet her long-term sweetheart ['''BELLA''': Right.] who will be better for her, then I would definitely be up for considering.

'''BELLA''': Why do you think that she has somebody else that's better for her?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I mean, I can't reveal too many details, I just, um, can only say that- say that she's got...

'''BELLA''': Oh, is this some kind of psychic thingie? Did you look into the future?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, that's-

'''BELLA''': Oh, okay. I understand. Oh, I see. Well, that makes sense, then, that you're not so confident. Yeah, it just really depends on the person. ['''BELLA''': Yeah.] How long are you staying at the event for again? Sorry.

'''CHRIS''': Um, we'll stay and watch the dead- [''Bella coughs''] Uh, like the plane ticket said I'll be leaving on the following Monday the 16th.

'''BELLA''': Okay, so- yeah. I just coordinating with the flight thing because I get mine
for... because I get mine for like a really big discount or free depending where they put me right? So um they're just they're still kind of iffy, but I at least have the tickets, but they could change them. So, um, but you're, you're from Seattle to Washington, right? I don't know if we'll
be on the same flight but I could try, uh if they if they have two stops from like from Michigan to Seattle to um yeah to Washington. Or if it's from like, Massachusetts. Yep?

'''CHRIS''': We could- we'll figure something out.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, we will. It'll be fine. We could do it another time, 'cause I have a cough, and it's hard to talk, and my throat kinda hurts --

[''cut in the audio'']

'''BELLA''': Alright, I understand- that I know the kind of person you are, and you're a good, caring person. And I know that, uh, you're doing it 'cause you love your mother-

'''CHRIS''': Thank you. That means a lot.

'''BELLA''': Hehe, look at my cat. Can you see him?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, kinda hard to see. ...I see him when he [???]

'''BELLA''': Do you see how- um you see how chubby he is? Do you see all this fat coming out from his neck he's got so fa-

[''cut'']

'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right... Oh, okay, so yours is a bit bigger?"

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

[''cut'']

'''BELLA''': ...'cause I know you wanna be with somebody, like yeah, more experienced and younger, I know you already said this, but I'm just, you know.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, and that's- And that's also one thing I definitely appreciate and, uh, the upcoming time with [the Suitress], because apparently, she's uh, she's had five cases of having sex. Or, close to it at least.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, I believe so, she's said that she had it before. She- she seems to be very uh open, and like not- not scared or nervous she's experienced. And that's what you like, right?

'''CHRIS''': But then also she's also had that experience with the pedophile Japanese teacher, apparently.

'''BELLA''': Oh, dear, ooh. Yeah, I don't know why, but, you know, like, all the Loli things and stuff? Like, it again, if it's just a drawing, it's not that much of a problem, but when it's like, but, people don't realize that it does, it does kind of cause, um, it does cause people to get, you know, it stops becoming a joke, it becomes- people become more and more, like attracted, then there are some crazies in the world that might use it and become more, uh, more likely to do it in person. It's like, you know, they say that a lot of the, uh, serial killers, um, the reason they came that way was because of
pornography? You know how easy it is to find stuff like child porn online? It's disgusting, but it's everywhere!

'''CHRIS''': Yeeessss!

'''BELLA''': Oh my god, holy crap, that's nasty. I can't believe-

'''CHRIS''': I've been in jail before, so-

'''BELLA''': Oh, you have? I had no clue, really? ...Really?

'''CHRIS''': Um, well, essentially, uh, I've been in jail twice.

'''BELLA''': Oh, really?

'''CHRIS''': First time- First time was, uh, was... [[Snyder]] set off his trap on me that time, which... lead me to come back to the Game and Hobby PLace, yeah. So I spent time- spending one night in jail.

'''BELLA''': Oh, one night? Was there anybody there? ['''CHRIS''': Yeah.] In jail with you?

'''CHRIS''': Yes. Um, nobody was in the, uh, jail cell with me. [''unintelligible'']

[''The audio abruptly cuts out.'']

==Older versions==

===Original leak===
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but..."
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===Second leak===
This leak was created as soon as Bella gave the Suitress the full four hour audio.<ref>[[The Suitress texts#"I'm kinda scared"]]</ref> The second version, with [[Bella]]'s side of the conversation included, was leaked several hours later in a Vocaroo file. In this version, the Suitress decided to keep Bella's identity concealed, only to have her own personal information leaked by both Bella and Sean. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562186</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562230</ref>
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{{collapsible|state=mw-collapsed|Transcript|
'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push it with <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[The Suitress]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on Christory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating <nowiki>[</nowiki>the Suitress<nowiki>]</nowiki>, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
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===Third leak===
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'''CHRIS''': Uhm, so yeah, she's got a really...sens-se g-bot-c-spot, because apparently I don't believe her, idonbelieve he could, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends and husbands, they haven't really reached, err, hit her G-spot really-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -with their dicks.

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': They haven't, they ha-they wer-were focused on-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough]

'''CHRIS''': -pleasurin' themselves really, as opposed to focusing on her, which that's my focus.

'''BELLA''': Right...[Unintelligible, followed by an inhalation] true, um, for like the convention make sure to have a, a lot of fun ys-make sure to have a, y'know, especially with [the Suitress] have a lot of
fun with her, right? Because uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Obviously.

'''BELLA''': -Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom...yea-uh-make sure I'll be there, I'll be there watching us making sure that nobody is tryna-[Inhalation followed by a cough] sorry butmythroat [Another cough] nobody's
trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two, I'll have, I'll have just a screenshot y'know, like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, uhm...you ar-though the dance will be awesome, we could take turns-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah.

'''BELLA''': -I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take the slow dance and whatever, and uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah, we'll see wha-well we'll see what we can arrange, because she obv-she only has the hotel room for the friday night, and-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -she will want to get home as-get home as quickly as possible as she's already make that agreement with her parents, and I don't wanna-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough, talks over Chris] Yeah, her mom is pretty strict about it, yeah...[Supressed cough]

'''CHRIS''': -yeah, but I mean obviously if uh, if uh she ends obviously she is likely to uh, head back home ''before'' the [[BronyCon_2017#Dancing_with_Magi-Chan|Grand Galloping Gala]]-

'''BELLA''': Oh, is she? Oh, no! I wanted to- I wanted to dance with her! Because I thought it'd be- Because I thought it'd be so cute! Because- since I'm there to protect you guys, right?
I obviously, I'm gonna be enjoying the festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like um, I wanted to make a uh oh like slideshow, and like memory thingy. Of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah well and all the other [Unintelligible]-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Yeah!

'''CHRIS''': -[Unintelligible] paying for the convention as well.

'''BELLA''': But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara.
A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, it is.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with.

'''BELLA''': You always have --

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': I- I- I appreciate that you like um, the idea of um, open relationships, right?
But, if, uh, [the Suitress] really wants to like, commit and settle down with you would you take that seriously and stop having open relationships?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I- I would consider... I really would wish I could consider [Bella coughs] I did, obviously.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': What if, uhm [Cough] in like ten years, after she's done with college, and you still have a good relationship, and she's grown to be a beautiful woman, and y'know, everything, she says,
Christine, I really really really want to settle down with you. I love you from the bottom of my heart. What would you do?

'''CHRIS''': Well, okay well, after she's done with college and she's got herself organized, uh, on the highly highly unlikely event... for this timeline that she ''doesn't'' meet her long-term sweetheart-

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': -who will be better for her, then I would definitely be up for considering.

'''BELLA''': Why do you think that she has somebody else that's better for her?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I mean, I can't reveal too many details, I just, um, can only say that- say that she's got...

'''BELLA''': Oh, is this some kind of psychic thingie? Did you look into the future?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, that's-

'''BELLA''': Oh, okay.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''CHRIS''': Incest fanfics that come true and shit.

'''BELLA''': I didn't even know there was such a thing! I didn't even know there was incest fanficsh- were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that I- I knew that you guys had a good ''relationship'', but I always thought- 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and y'know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I- I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had- I didn't have any idea that Barbara was, um, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those, uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I approached her with care and caution. And... it was a timed approach. So I just, gave her comfort, to talked with her, and we just branched out slow and steady, and that night I encouraged her positively, let ''her'' make the first move, 'cause she wanted to do it an'...

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts chris] Oh, she did? Really? She made the first move?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Oh. Oh, really? Wow, ''Barbara'', ha ha! How- how did she do, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] Uh, I don't remember exact- well, that was her first move but my approach was... Hm. Well, I forgot exactly what it- what terminology approach I used but, care and caution.

'''BELLA''': That's good.

'''CHRIS''': And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.

'''BELLA''': That's good. And how did she respond when you, uh, when you, um, approached her? What did she say?

'''CHRIS''': I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was [[Rape|partially confused]] at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.

'''BELLA''': Right, so she... so she got into it. How was the first kiss? You kissed her? How did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life, how did that feel?

'''CHRIS''': Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right.

'''BELLA''': When did you start having feelings for Barbara?

'''CHRIS''': Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of my videos that I even had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So...

'''BELLA''': Really, yeah? Is that, um, I- I- I've heard of- I don't know what it is, per, uh, per se, but, is that what Oh-dipus complex is called, is when, uh, um, is when, you like your mother? Is that what it's called, I don't know what it means, though, I just thought, I thought, I just thought might be.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, the uh, that's right, the {{w|Oedipus complex}}.

'''BELLA''': Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right, ennh... how, how if you don't mind me asking it, I know it's probably personal, you don't have to ''answer'', but... how is the sex?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory, it took a while, took a few tries to...

'''BELLA''': It took a few tries? Yeah... she is o- she is ''older''...

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, plus, uh, also she's very understanding about the whole thing as well, I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, made sure that I, yeah, obviously, I'm never gonna propose marriage to her at all 'cause we're already daughter and... mom...

'''BELLA''': Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': Sorry?

'''CHRIS''': We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th.

'''BELLA''': Oh, you have a routine? Huh.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Well, at least you have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Yeah. So you said since June, June?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and...

'''BELLA''': Does your mother enjoy it?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally.

'''BELLA''': She is? She's having a good time?

'''CHRIS''': She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out.

'''BELLA''': That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'

'''CHRIS''': Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now.

'''BELLA''': Oh, really?

'''CHRIS''': So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point.

'''BELLA''': But you recently started dating the Suitress, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her.

'''BELLA''': Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?

'''CHRIS''': Well, uh, she's not.

'''BELLA''': No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, she's okay.

'''BELLA''': Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?

'''CHRIS''': Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together.

'''BELLA''': Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown...

'''BELLA''': Uh-huh.

'''CHRIS''': ...my tooth.

'''BELLA''': Oh, did you?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible].

'''BELLA''': Right. That's true, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': [inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker.

'''BELLA''': Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?

'''CHRIS''': Obviously.

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, obviously, but, y'know, obviously, if I could find some...

'''BELLA''': There's [the Suitress]! [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! [The Suitress]- yeah, [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! She's a super-girl. Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': I have foreseen- I have lived in the future, and I know she's gonna find her better, long-term sweetheart.

'''BELLA''': [The Suitress]?

'''CHRIS''': On campus.

'''BELLA''': Are you sure?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Because [the Suitress]- [the Suitress] talks to me, saying how great you are, and how much she loves you, right? Maybe 'cause the future can change, with fate?

'''CHRIS''': Um, it's a possibility, but it's-

'''BELLA''': Why don't you try for her? Because- y'know- 'cause [stammers] [the Suitress] consented [?] to having an open relationship, right? I'm sure she's- you're fine, with, uh, both of them now. But, over time, [the Suitress] really, really, really adores you. And she's a wonderful girl. I text her a lot, we chat. We, um- She has never said a single negative thing about you. She- She adores you, like, and- She'll be more open to stuff like, you know, having spa days, getting pizza, going out together, you know, and, she's um, she's probably newer in the bedroom, but she's willing to do it. She's willing to have fun with you.

'''CHRIS''': Yes, I agree. And I appreciate all that, yeah, I'm making the uh, short time, as a short time, count, as best as I can with her.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': And plus, she's young! She has a lot of time to, um, she has a lot of time to travel, visit you, I mean- You've done long distance before, haven't you?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, a long-distance relationships, but- [''Bella coughs loudly'']

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, they suck. I know they suck, but what's important is that you make, uh, you make a relationship with her now, and that way, it'll stay, like, forever! And she'll come back to you, like she'll come back to you, I'm sure!

'''CHRIS''': Yes, it is a possibility, but I am more- I am more open. I'm thinking more on the higher-likelihood outcomes for this timeline, obviously-

'''BELLA''': I'm sorry, I'm just trying to get adjusted-

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe.

'''BELLA''': You don't want anyone who's younger?

'''CHRIS''': Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly.

'''BELLA''': Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. It's hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead.

'''CHRIS''': Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and...

'''BELLA''': Mhm.

'''CHRIS''': Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to play right, right down there, so...

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. [[Chris_and_his_ego|Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards]]...

'''BELLA''': God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so...

'''BELLA''': But how did this happen? How did this come about?

'''CHRIS''': Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a [[Honest_Content#True_and_Honest|true and honest]], uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously...
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==See also==
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==
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{{FanChats}}

User:Jelq/Sandbox

2021-10-23T10:33:25Z

Jelq: Finished transcript of leak #3.

'''CHRIS''': Uhm, so yeah, she's got a really...sens-se g-bot-c-spot, because apparently I don't believe her, idonbelieve he could, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends and husbands, they haven't really reached, err, hit her G-spot really-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -with their dicks.

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': They haven't, they ha-they wer-were focused on-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough]

'''CHRIS''': -pleasurin' themselves really, as opposed to focusing on her, which that's my focus.

'''BELLA''': Right...[Unintelligible, followed by an inhalation] true, um, for like the convention make sure to have a, a lot of fun ys-make sure to have a, y'know, especially with [the Suitress] have a lot of
fun with her, right? Because uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Obviously.

'''BELLA''': -Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom...yea-uh-make sure I'll be there, I'll be there watching us making sure that nobody is tryna-[Inhalation followed by a cough] sorry butmythroat [Another cough] nobody's
trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two, I'll have, I'll have just a screenshot y'know, like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, uhm...you ar-though the dance will be awesome, we could take turns-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah.

'''BELLA''': -I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take the slow dance and whatever, and uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah, we'll see wha-well we'll see what we can arrange, because she obv-she only has the hotel room for the friday night, and-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -she will want to get home as-get home as quickly as possible as she's already make that agreement with her parents, and I don't wanna-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough, talks over Chris] Yeah, her mom is pretty strict about it, yeah...[Supressed cough]

'''CHRIS''': -yeah, but I mean obviously if uh, if uh she ends obviously she is likely to uh, head back home ''before'' the [[BronyCon_2017#Dancing_with_Magi-Chan|Grand Galloping Gala]]-

'''BELLA''': Oh, is she? Oh, no! I wanted to- I wanted to dance with her! Because I thought it'd be- Because I thought it'd be so cute! Because- since I'm there to protect you guys, right?
I obviously, I'm gonna be enjoying the festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like um, I wanted to make a uh oh like slideshow, and like memory thingy. Of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah well and all the other [Unintelligible]-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Yeah!

'''CHRIS''': -[Unintelligible] paying for the convention as well.

'''BELLA''': But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara.
A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, it is.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with.

'''BELLA''': You always have --

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'''BELLA''': I- I- I appreciate that you like um, the idea of um, open relationships, right?
But, if, uh, [the Suitress] really wants to like, commit and settle down with you would you take that seriously and stop having open relationships?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I- I would consider... I really would wish I could consider [Bella coughs] I did, obviously.

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'''BELLA''': What if, uhm [Cough] in like ten years, after she's done with college, and you still have a good relationship, and she's grown to be a beautiful woman, and y'know, everything, she says,
Christine, I really really really want to settle down with you. I love you from the bottom of my heart. What would you do?

'''CHRIS''': Well, okay well, after she's done with college and she's got herself organized, uh, on the highly highly unlikely event... for this timeline that she ''doesn't'' meet her long-term sweetheart-

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': -who will be better for her, then I would definitely be up for considering.

'''BELLA''': Why do you think that she has somebody else that's better for her?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I mean, I can't reveal too many details, I just, um, can only say that- say that she's got...

'''BELLA''': Oh, is this some kind of psychic thingie? Did you look into the future?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, that's-

'''BELLA''': Oh, okay.

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'''CHRIS''': Incest fanfics that come true and shit.

'''BELLA''': I didn't even know there was such a thing! I didn't even know there was incest fanficsh- were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that I- I knew that you guys had a good ''relationship'', but I always thought- 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and y'know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I- I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had- I didn't have any idea that Barbara was, um, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those, uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I approached her with care and caution. And... it was a timed approach. So I just, gave her comfort, to talked with her, and we just branched out slow and steady, and that night I encouraged her positively, let ''her'' make the first move, 'cause she wanted to do it an'...

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts chris] Oh, she did? Really? She made the first move?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Oh. Oh, really? Wow, ''Barbara'', ha ha! How- how did she do, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] Uh, I don't remember exact- well, that was her first move but my approach was... Hm. Well, I forgot exactly what it- what terminology approach I used but, care and caution.

'''BELLA''': That's good.

'''CHRIS''': And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.

'''BELLA''': That's good. And how did she respond when you, uh, when you, um, approached her? What did she say?

'''CHRIS''': I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was [[Rape|partially confused]] at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.

'''BELLA''': Right, so she... so she got into it. How was the first kiss? You kissed her? How did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life, how did that feel?

'''CHRIS''': Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right.

'''BELLA''': When did you start having feelings for Barbara?

'''CHRIS''': Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of my videos that I even had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So...

'''BELLA''': Really, yeah? Is that, um, I- I- I've heard of- I don't know what it is, per, uh, per se, but, is that what Oh-dipus complex is called, is when, uh, um, is when, you like your mother? Is that what it's called, I don't know what it means, though, I just thought, I thought, I just thought might be.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, the uh, that's right, the {{w|Oedipus complex}}.

'''BELLA''': Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right, ennh... how, how if you don't mind me asking it, I know it's probably personal, you don't have to ''answer'', but... how is the sex?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory, it took a while, took a few tries to...

'''BELLA''': It took a few tries? Yeah... she is o- she is ''older''...

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, plus, uh, also she's very understanding about the whole thing as well, I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, made sure that I, yeah, obviously, I'm never gonna propose marriage to her at all 'cause we're already daughter and... mom...

'''BELLA''': Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter.

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'''BELLA''': Sorry?

'''CHRIS''': We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th.

'''BELLA''': Oh, you have a routine? Huh.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Well, at least you have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Yeah. So you said since June, June?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and...

'''BELLA''': Does your mother enjoy it?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally.

'''BELLA''': She is? She's having a good time?

'''CHRIS''': She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out.

'''BELLA''': That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'

'''CHRIS''': Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now.

'''BELLA''': Oh, really?

'''CHRIS''': So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point.

'''BELLA''': But you recently started dating the Suitress, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her.

'''BELLA''': Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?

'''CHRIS''': Well, uh, she's not.

'''BELLA''': No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, she's okay.

'''BELLA''': Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?

'''CHRIS''': Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together.

'''BELLA''': Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown...

'''BELLA''': Uh-huh.

'''CHRIS''': ...my tooth.

'''BELLA''': Oh, did you?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible].

'''BELLA''': Right. That's true, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': [inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker.

'''BELLA''': Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?

'''CHRIS''': Obviously.

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, obviously, but, y'know, obviously, if I could find some...

'''BELLA''': There's [the Suitress]! [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! [The Suitress]- yeah, [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! She's a super-girl. Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': I have foreseen- I have lived in the future, and I know she's gonna find her better, long-term sweetheart.

'''BELLA''': [The Suitress]?

'''CHRIS''': On campus.

'''BELLA''': Are you sure?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Because [the Suitress]- [the Suitress] talks to me, saying how great you are, and how much she loves you, right? Maybe 'cause the future can change, with fate?

'''CHRIS''': Um, it's a possibility, but it's-

'''BELLA''': Why don't you try for her? Because- y'know- 'cause [stammers] [the Suitress] consented [?] to having an open relationship, right? I'm sure she's- you're fine, with, uh, both of them now. But, over time, [the Suitress] really, really, really adores you. And she's a wonderful girl. I text her a lot, we chat. We, um- She has never said a single negative thing about you. She- She adores you, like, and- She'll be more open to stuff like, you know, having spa days, getting pizza, going out together, you know, and, she's um, she's probably newer in the bedroom, but she's willing to do it. She's willing to have fun with you.

'''CHRIS''': Yes, I agree. And I appreciate all that, yeah, I'm making the uh, short time, as a short time, count, as best as I can with her.

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'''BELLA''': And plus, she's young! She has a lot of time to, um, she has a lot of time to travel, visit you, I mean- You've done long distance before, haven't you?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, a long-distance relationships, but- [''Bella coughs loudly'']

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, they suck. I know they suck, but what's important is that you make, uh, you make a relationship with her now, and that way, it'll stay, like, forever! And she'll come back to you, like she'll come back to you, I'm sure!

'''CHRIS''': Yes, it is a possibility, but I am more- I am more open. I'm thinking more on the higher-likelihood outcomes for this timeline, obviously-

'''BELLA''': I'm sorry, I'm just trying to get adjusted-

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'''BELLA''': Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe.

'''BELLA''': You don't want anyone who's younger?

'''CHRIS''': Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly.

'''BELLA''': Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. It's hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead.

'''CHRIS''': Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and...

'''BELLA''': Mhm.

'''CHRIS''': Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to play right, right down there, so...

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. [[Chris_and_his_ego|Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards]]...

'''BELLA''': God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so...

'''BELLA''': But how did this happen? How did this come about?

'''CHRIS''': Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a [[Honest_Content#True_and_Honest|true and honest]], uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously...

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'''CHRIS''': Uhm, so yeah, she's got a really...sens-se g-bot-c-spot, because apparently I don't believe her, idonbelieve he could, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends and husbands, they haven't really reached, err, hit her G-spot really-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -with their dicks.

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': They haven't, they ha-they wer-were focused on-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough]

'''CHRIS''': -pleasurin' themselves really, as opposed to focusing on her, which that's my focus.

'''BELLA''': Right...[Unintelligible, followed by an inhalation] true, um, for like the convention make sure to have a, a lot of fun ys-make sure to have a, y'know, especially with [the Suitress] have a lot of
fun with her, right? Because uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Obviously.

'''BELLA''': -Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom...yea-uh-make sure I'll be there, I'll be there watching us making sure that nobody is tryna-[Inhalation followed by a cough] sorry butmythroat [Another cough] nobody's
trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two, I'll have, I'll have just a screenshot y'know, like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, uhm...you ar-though the dance will be awesome, we could take turns-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah.

'''BELLA''': -I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take the slow dance and whatever, and uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah, we'll see wha-well we'll see what we can arrange, because she obv-she only has the hotel room for the friday night, and-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -she will want to get home as-get home as quickly as possible as she's already make that agreement with her parents, and I don't wanna-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough, talks over Chris] Yeah, her mom is pretty strict about it, yeah...[Supressed cough]

'''CHRIS''': -yeah, but I mean obviously if uh, if uh she ends obviously she is likely to uh, head back home ''before'' the [[BronyCon_2017#Dancing_with_Magi-Chan|Grand Galloping Gala]]-

'''BELLA''': Oh, is she? Oh, no! I wanted to- I wanted to dance with her! Because I thought it'd be- Because I thought it'd be so cute! Because- since I'm there to protect you guys, right?
I obviously, I'm gonna be enjoying the festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like um, I wanted to make a uh oh like slideshow, and like memory thingy. Of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah well and all the other [Unintelligible]-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Yeah!

'''CHRIS''': -[Unintelligible] paying for the convention as well.

'''BELLA''': But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara.
A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, it is.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with.

'''BELLA''': You always have --

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'''BELLA''': I- I- I appreciate that you like um, the idea of um, open relationships, right?
But, if, uh, [the Suitress] really wants to like, commit and settle down with you would you take that seriously and stop having open relationships?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I- I would consider... I really would wish I could consider [Bella coughs] I did, obviously.

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'''BELLA''': What if, uhm [Cough] in like ten years, after she's done with college, and you still have a good relationship, and she's grown to be a beautiful woman, and y'know, everything, she says,
Christine, I really really really want to settle down with you. I love you from the bottom of my heart. What would you do?

'''CHRIS''': Well, okay well, after she's done with college and she's got herself organized, uh, on the highly highly unlikely event... for this timeline that she ''doesn't'' meet her long-term sweetheart-

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': -who will be better for her, then I would definitely be up for considering.

'''BELLA''': Why do you think that she has somebody else that's better for her?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I mean, I can't reveal too many details, I just, um, can only say that- say that she's got...

'''BELLA''': Oh, is this some kind of psychic thingie? Did you look into the future?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, that's-

'''BELLA''': Oh, okay.

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'''CHRIS''': Incest fanfics that come true and shit.

'''BELLA''': I didn't even know there was such a thing! I didn't even know there was incest fanficsh- were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that I- I knew that you guys had a good ''relationship'', but I always thought- 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and y'know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I- I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had- I didn't have any idea that Barbara was, um, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those, uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I approached her with care and caution. And... it was a timed approach. So I just, gave her comfort, to talked with her, and we just branched out slow and steady, and that night I encouraged her positively, let ''her'' make the first move, 'cause she wanted to do it an'...

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts chris] Oh, she did? Really? She made the first move?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Oh. Oh, really? Wow, ''Barbara'', ha ha! How- how did she do, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] Uh, I don't remember exact- well, that was her first move but my approach was... Hm. Well, I forgot exactly what it- what terminology approach I used but, care and caution.

'''BELLA''': That's good.

'''CHRIS''': And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.

'''BELLA''': That's good. And how did she respond when you, uh, when you, um, approached her? What did she say?

'''CHRIS''': I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was [[Rape|partially confused]] at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.

'''BELLA''': Right, so she... so she got into it. How was the first kiss? You kissed her? How did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life, how did that feel?

'''CHRIS''': Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right.

'''BELLA''': When did you start having feelings for Barbara?

'''CHRIS''': Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of my videos that I even had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So...

'''BELLA''': Really, yeah? Is that, um, I- I- I've heard of- I don't know what it is, per, uh, per se, but, is that what Oh-dipus complex is called, is when, uh, um, is when, you like your mother? Is that what it's called, I don't know what it means, though, I just thought, I thought, I just thought might be.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, the uh, that's right, the {{w|Oedipus complex}}.

'''BELLA''': Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right, ennh... how, how if you don't mind me asking it, I know it's probably personal, you don't have to ''answer'', but... how is the sex?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory, it took a while, took a few tries to...

'''BELLA''': It took a few tries? Yeah... she is o- she is ''older''...

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, plus, uh, also she's very understanding about the whole thing as well, I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, made sure that I, yeah, obviously, I'm never gonna propose marriage to her at all 'cause we're already daughter and... mom...

'''BELLA''': Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter.

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'''BELLA''': Sorry?

'''CHRIS''': We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th.

'''BELLA''': Oh, you have a routine? Huh.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Well, at least you have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Yeah. So you said since June, June?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and...

'''BELLA''': Does your mother enjoy it?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally.

'''BELLA''': She is? She's having a good time?

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating the Suitress, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, obviously, but, y'know, obviously, if I could find some...

'''BELLA''': There's [the Suitress]! [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! [The Suitress]- yeah, [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! She's a super-girl. Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': I have foreseen- I have lived in the future, and I know she's gonna find her better, long-term sweetheart.

'''BELLA''': [The Suitress]?

'''CHRIS''': On campus.

'''BELLA''': Are you sure?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Because [the Suitress]- [the Suitress] talks to me, saying how great you are, and how much she loves you, right? Maybe 'cause the future can change, with fate?

'''CHRIS''': Um, it's a possibility, but it's-

'''BELLA''': Why don't you try for her? Because- y'know- 'cause [stammers] [the Suitress] consented [?] to having an open relationship, right? I'm sure she's- you're fine, with, uh, both of them now. But, over time, [the Suitress] really, really, really adores you. And she's a wonderful girl. I text her a lot, we chat. We, um- She has never said a single negative thing about you. She- She adores you, like, and- She'll be more open to stuff like, you know, having spa days, getting pizza, going out together, you know, and, she's um, she's probably newer in the bedroom, but she's willing to do it. She's willing to have fun with you.

'''CHRIS''': Yes, I agree. And I appreciate all that, yeah, I'm making the uh, short time, as a short time, count, as best as I can with her.

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'''BELLA''': And plus, she's young! She has a lot of time to, um, she has a lot of time to travel, visit you, I mean- You've done long distance before, haven't you?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, a long-distance relationships, but- [''Bella coughs loudly'']

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, they suck. I know they suck, but what's important is that you make, uh, you make a relationship with her now, and that way, it'll stay, like, forever! And she'll come back to you, like she'll come back to you, I'm sure!

'''CHRIS''': Yes, it is a possibility, but I am more- I am more open. I'm thinking more on the higher-likelihood outcomes for this timeline, obviously-

'''BELLA''': I'm sorry, I'm just trying to get adjusted-

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. It's hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to play right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. [[Chris_and_his_ego|Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards]]..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

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2021-10-23T10:30:04Z

Jelq:

'''CHRIS''': Uhm, so yeah, she's got a really...sens-se g-bot-c-spot, because apparently I don't believe her, idonbelieve he could, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends and husbands, they haven't really reached, err, hit her G-spot really-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -with their dicks.

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': They haven't, they ha-they wer-were focused on-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough]

'''CHRIS''': -pleasurin' themselves really, as opposed to focusing on her, which that's my focus.

'''BELLA''': Right...[Unintelligible, followed by an inhalation] true, um, for like the convention make sure to have a, a lot of fun ys-make sure to have a, y'know, especially with [the Suitress] have a lot of
fun with her, right? Because uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Obviously.

'''BELLA''': -Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom...yea-uh-make sure I'll be there, I'll be there watching us making sure that nobody is tryna-[Inhalation followed by a cough] sorry butmythroat [Another cough] nobody's
trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two, I'll have, I'll have just a screenshot y'know, like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, uhm...you ar-though the dance will be awesome, we could take turns-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah.

'''BELLA''': -I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take the slow dance and whatever, and uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah, we'll see wha-well we'll see what we can arrange, because she obv-she only has the hotel room for the friday night, and-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -she will want to get home as-get home as quickly as possible as she's already make that agreement with her parents, and I don't wanna-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough, talks over Chris] Yeah, her mom is pretty strict about it, yeah...[Supressed cough]

'''CHRIS''': -yeah, but I mean obviously if uh, if uh she ends obviously she is likely to uh, head back home ''before'' the [[BronyCon_2017#Dancing_with_Magi-Chan|Grand Galloping Gala]]-

'''BELLA''': Oh, is she? Oh, no! I wanted to- I wanted to dance with her! Because I thought it'd be- Because I thought it'd be so cute! Because- since I'm there to protect you guys, right?
I obviously, I'm gonna be enjoying the festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like um, I wanted to make a uh oh like slideshow, and like memory thingy. Of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah well and all the other [Unintelligible]-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Yeah!

'''CHRIS''': -[Unintelligible] paying for the convention as well.

'''BELLA''': But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara.
A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, it is.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with.

'''BELLA''': You always have --

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': I- I- I appreciate that you like um, the idea of um, open relationships, right?
But, if, uh, [the Suitress] really wants to like, commit and settle down with you would you take that seriously and stop having open relationships?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I- I would consider... I really would wish I could consider [Bella coughs] I did, obviously.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': What if, uhm [Cough] in like ten years, after she's done with college, and you still have a good relationship, and she's grown to be a beautiful woman, and y'know, everything, she says,
Christine, I really really really want to settle down with you. I love you from the bottom of my heart. What would you do?

'''CHRIS''': Well, okay well, after she's done with college and she's got herself organized, uh, on the highly highly unlikely event... for this timeline that she ''doesn't'' meet her long-term sweetheart-

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': -who will be better for her, then I would definitely be up for considering.

'''BELLA''': Why do you think that she has somebody else that's better for her?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I mean, I can't reveal too many details, I just, um, can only say that- say that she's got...

'''BELLA''': Oh, is this some kind of psychic thingie? Did you look into the future?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, that's-

'''BELLA''': Oh, okay.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''CHRIS''': Incest fanfics that come true and shit.

'''BELLA''': I didn't even know there was such a thing! I didn't even know there was incest fanficsh- were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that I- I knew that you guys had a good ''relationship'', but I always thought- 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and y'know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I- I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had- I didn't have any idea that Barbara was, um, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those, uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I approached her with care and caution. And... it was a timed approach. So I just, gave her comfort, to talked with her, and we just branched out slow and steady, and that night I encouraged her positively, let ''her'' make the first move, 'cause she wanted to do it an'...

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts chris] Oh, she did? Really? She made the first move?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Oh. Oh, really? Wow, ''Barbara'', ha ha! How- how did she do, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] Uh, I don't remember exact- well, that was her first move but my approach was... Hm. Well, I forgot exactly what it- what terminology approach I used but, care and caution.

'''BELLA''': That's good.

'''CHRIS''': And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.

'''BELLA''': That's good. And how did she respond when you, uh, when you, um, approached her? What did she say?

'''CHRIS''': I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was [[Rape|partially confused]] at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.

'''BELLA''': Right, so she... so she got into it. How was the first kiss? You kissed her? How did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life, how did that feel?

'''CHRIS''': Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right.

'''BELLA''': When did you start having feelings for Barbara?

'''CHRIS''': Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of my videos that I even had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So...

'''BELLA''': Really, yeah? Is that, um, I- I- I've heard of- I don't know what it is, per, uh, per se, but, is that what Oh-dipus complex is called, is when, uh, um, is when, you like your mother? Is that what it's called, I don't know what it means, though, I just thought, I thought, I just thought might be.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, the uh, that's right, the {{w|Oedipus complex}}.

'''BELLA''': Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right, ennh... how, how if you don't mind me asking it, I know it's probably personal, you don't have to ''answer'', but... how is the sex?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory, it took a while, took a few tries to...

'''BELLA''': It took a few tries? Yeah... she is o- she is ''older''...

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, plus, uh, also she's very understanding about the whole thing as well, I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, made sure that I, yeah, obviously, I'm never gonna propose marriage to her at all 'cause we're already daughter and... mom...

'''BELLA''': Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': Sorry?

'''CHRIS''': We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th.

'''BELLA''': Oh, you have a routine? Huh.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Well, at least you have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Yeah. So you said since June, June?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and...

'''BELLA''': Does your mother enjoy it?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally.

'''BELLA''': She is? She's having a good time?

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating the Suitress, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, obviously, but, y'know, obviously, if I could find some...

'''BELLA''': There's [the Suitress]! [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! [The Suitress]- yeah, [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! She's a super-girl. Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': I have foreseen- I have lived in the future, and I know she's gonna find her better, long-term sweetheart.

'''BELLA''': [The Suitress]?

'''CHRIS''': On campus.

'''BELLA''': Are you sure?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Because [the Suitress]- [the Suitress] talks to me, saying how great you are, and how much she loves you, right? Maybe 'cause the future can change, with fate?

'''CHRIS''': Um, it's a possibility, but it's-

'''BELLA''': Why don't you try for her? Because- y'know- 'cause [stammers] [the Suitress] consented [?] to having an open relationship, right? I'm sure she's- you're fine, with, uh, both of them now. But, over time, [the Suitress] really, really, really adores you. And she's a wonderful girl. I text her a lot, we chat. We, um- She has never said a single negative thing about you. She- She adores you, like, and- She'll be more open to stuff like, you know, having spa days, getting pizza, going out together, you know, and, she's um, she's probably newer in the bedroom, but she's willing to do it. She's willing to have fun with you.

'''CHRIS''': Yes, I agree. And I appreciate all that, yeah, I'm making the uh, short time, as a short time, count, as best as I can with her.

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': And plus, she's young! She has a lot of time to, um, she has a lot of time to travel, visit you, I mean- You've done long distance before, haven't you?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, a long-distance relationships, but- [''Bella coughs loudly'']

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, they suck. I know they suck, but what's important is that you make, uh, you make a relationship with her now, and that way, it'll stay, like, forever! And she'll come back to you, like she'll come back to you, I'm sure!

'''CHRIS''': Yes, it is a possibility, but I am more- I am more open. I'm thinking more on the higher-likelihood outcomes for this timeline, obviously-

'''BELLA''': I'm sorry, I'm just trying to get adjusted-

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. It's hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to play right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. [[Messiah_complex|Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards]]..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

User:Jelq/Sandbox

2021-10-23T10:06:01Z

Jelq: Figured out this is a cut down version of the longest call. Rewriting the transcript as necessary.

User:Jelq/Sandbox

2021-10-23T09:56:58Z

Jelq:

==WIP transcript of the third incest call leak==

'''CHRIS''': Uhm, so yeah, she's got a really...sens-se g-bot-c-spot, because apparently I don't believe her, idonbelieve he could, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends and husbands, they haven't really reached, err, hit her G-spot really-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -with their dicks.

'''BELLA''': Right.

'''CHRIS''': They haven't, they ha-they wer-were focused on-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough]

'''CHRIS''': -pleasurin' themselves really, as opposed to focusing on her, which that's my focus.

'''BELLA''': Right...[Unintelligible, followed by an inhalation] true, um, for like the convention make sure to have a, a lot of fun ys-make sure to have a, y'know, especially with The Suitress have a lot of
fun with her, right? Because uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Obviously.

'''BELLA''': -Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom...yea-uh-make sure I'll be there, I'll be there watching us making sure that nobody is tryna-[Inhalation followed by a cough] sorry butmythroat [Another cough] nobody's
trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two, I'll have, I'll have just a screenshot y'know, like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, uhm...you ar-though the dance will be awesome, we could take turns-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah.

'''BELLA''': -I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take the slow dance and whatever, and uh-

'''CHRIS''': [Interrupts Bella] Yeah, we'll see wha-well we'll see what we can arrange, because she obv-she only has the hotel room for the friday night, and-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Right.

'''CHRIS''': -she will want to get home as-get home as quickly as possible as she's already make that agreement with her parents, and I don't wanna-

'''BELLA''': [Loud cough, talks over Chris] Yeah, her mom is pretty strict about it, yeah...[Supressed cough]

'''CHRIS''': -yeah, but I mean obviously if uh, if uh she ends obviously she is likely to uh, head back home ''before'' the [[BronyCon_2017#Dancing_with_Magi-Chan|Grand Galloping Gala]]-

'''BELLA''': [Interrupts Chris] Oh yeah she uhm no I wanted to, uh, dance with her, because I thought it'd be, I thought it'd be so cute, because it's our duty to protect you guys, right? I-obviously [Unintelligible] going the fe-like
festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like a...I wanted to make a uh, [Unintelligible] slideshow, like memory thingy, of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''':

Incest Call

2021-10-23T09:55:11Z

Jelq: Working on the third transcript. Once it

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{{Sandbox|[[https://sonichu.com/cwcki/User:Jelq/Sandbox]]}}

The '''incest call''' refers to a video call which took place between Chris and [[Bella]] in the early morning hours of 28 [[July 2021]].<ref name=BellaReaction>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Bella reacts to incest call]]</ref>

In the call, Chris discusses him and his mother having engaged in substantial sexual activity.

Audio from the call was publicly leaked multiple times with varying amounts of censorship. The first leak by [[the Suitress]] had a runtime of about 4 minutes and consisted only of Chris's voice, followed a few hours later by another cut with Bella's voice retained. In the following days more material was leaked by Bella, with the longest version being just over 21 minutes long. All leaked recordings have notable cuts in the audio.

Bella has claimed the full call lasted around four hours and that the bulk of conversation was a "long and actually very pleasant talk", but the full conversation was not recorded due to her iPad cutting off the recording.<ref name=BellaReaction/>

==Video==
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===Transcript===


'''CHRIS''': ...We pro- we proceeded towards it more slowly.

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm putting the volume, for my- I can't- I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. It's hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS:''' "Not too many, not too many individuals this side of the [[Dimensional Merge|iron curtain]] were coming up to plate right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the- everything was coming into good alignment and it was, the signs were all [inaudible] [[Chris and religion#Concept of Emanuelle|Emanuelle]], you know, God, just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine!'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best ways to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously, tale- the incest fanfics have come true and shit."


'''BELLA''': I didn't even know there was such a thing! I didn't even know there was incest fanficsh- were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that I- I knew that you guys had a good ''relationship'', but I always thought- 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and y'know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I- I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had- I didn't have any idea that Barbara was, um, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those, uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I approached her with care and caution. And... it was a timed approach. So I just, gave her comfort, to talked with her, and we just branched out slow and steady, and that night I encouraged her positively, let ''her'' make the first move, 'cause she wanted to do it an'...

'''BELLA''' (interrupting): Oh, she did? Really? She made the first move?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Oh. Oh, really? Wow, ''Barbara'', ha ha! How- how did she do, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] Uh, I don't remember exact- well, that was her first move but my approach was... Hm. Well, I forgot exactly what it- what terminology approach I used but, care and caution.

'''BELLA''': That's good.

'''CHRIS''': And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.

'''BELLA''': That's good. And how did she respond when you, uh, when you, um, approached her? What did she say?

'''CHRIS''': I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was [[Rape|partially confused]] at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.

'''BELLA''': Right, so she... so she got into it. How was the first kiss? You kissed her? How did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life, how did that feel?

'''CHRIS''': Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right.

'''BELLA''': When did you start having feelings for Barbara?


'''CHRIS''': Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of my videos that I even had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So...

'''BELLA''': Really, yeah? Is that, um, I- I- I've heard of- I don't know what it is, per, uh, per se, but, is that what Oh-dipus complex is called, is when, uh, um, is when, you like your mother? Is that what it's called, I don't know what it means, though, I just thought, I thought, I just thought might be.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, the uh, that's right, the {{w|Oedipus complex}}.

'''BELLA''': Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right, ennh... how, how if you don't mind me asking it, I know it's probably personal, you don't have to ''answer'', but... how is the sex?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory, it took a while, took a few tries to...

'''BELLA''': [''giggling''] It took a few tries? Yeah... she is o- she is ''older''...

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, plus, uh, also she's very exstanding about the whole thing as well, I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, made sure that I, yeah, obviously, I'm never gonna propose marriage to her at all 'cause we're already daughter and... mom...

'''BELLA''': Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter, that's true. I'm- I'm pretty close to my mom, I don't- I don't think I'd be ''that'' close, but... I do- I do in some ways project, you know, the kind of woman I'm interested in, with the kind of woman my mother is, and I didn't realize it until I got older. I was like, wow! She's- she's not- she kind of, y'know, similar- has similar qualities to my mother! And I think, 'Oh! Well, shoot!' Um, I'm very- I'm glad that you're telling me, because a lot of people would hold this inside, and it would tear them apart, you know, but then again, yeah your, your body is, um, your body now, isn't it
only like a projection of your true form? Aren't you from like, you're from like another dimension, right? You're a Sonichu.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, well, not really a projection because this body is interdimensional. [''continues speaking, inaudible as Bella cuts him off'']

'''BELLA''': Yeah, it's interdimensional. But are you related to Barbara in, um, are you related to Barbara, in like, um, the different dimensions?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I'm not sure how to answer that question off the bat right now, 'cause-

'''BELLA''': Right. You're just still figuring it out. How long have you two been going at it?

'''CHRIS''': Well, we've been um, doing it every third n-

[''Bella sneezes'']

'''BELLA''': Sorry?

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, at least you have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, that's sweet. That's sweet. I call my girlfriend 'love' too. Well, I used to, the old one, haha. I- I don't- you're- you're in a relationship and I'm not, so you're- you're more experienced than I am, definitely. But you recently started dating [the Suitress], isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you? I always thought the dentist was a sham, because whenever I- because they say i'm genetically prone to get cavities, even though I brush my teeth all the time, and no matter how I brush my teeth and floss and I get a cavity. The thing is if you ignore it i mean by ignore you like take care of it yourself it goes away for me. But I never- I don't think I've ever got a crown in, yeah. I've gotten- gotten a gold over here."


'''CHRIS''': Yeah, well, anyway. Uh, so I had to get roots now, before [?]

'''BELLA''': Right. Ow, that hurts, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, I could- Yeah, I could appreciate that as well, but... uh, she's not exactly one for the shopping time, but- ['''BELLA''': Right.] Yeah, all these- ['''BELLA''': Right.] It wasn't- She's still trying to remember her inner child... ['''BELLA''': Right, that's true, yeah.] ...might as well, but I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy? Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, obviously, but, y'know, obviously, if I could find some...

'''BELLA''': There's [the Suitress]! [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! [The Suitress]- yeah, [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! She's a super-girl. Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': I have foreseen- I have lived in the future, and I know she's gonna find her better, long-term sweetheart.

'''BELLA''': [The Suitress]?

'''CHRIS''': On campus.

'''BELLA''': Are you sure? ['''CHRIS''': Yeah.] Because [the Suitress]- [the Suitress] talks to me, saying how great you are, and how much she loves you, right? Maybe 'cause the future can change, with fate?

'''CHRIS''': Um, it's a possibility, but it's-

'''BELLA''': Why don't you try for her? Because- y'know- 'cause [stammers] [the Suitress] consented [?] to having an open relationship, right? I'm sure she's- you're fine, with, uh, both of them now. BUt, over time, [the Suitress] really, really, really adores you. And she's a wonderful girl. I text her a lot, we chat. We, um- She has never said a single negative thing about you. She- She adores you, like, and- She'll be more open to stuff like, you know, having spa days, getting pizza, going out together, you know, and, she's um, she's probably newer in the bedroom, but she's willing to do it. She's willing to have fun with you.

'''CHRIS''': Yes, I agree. And I appreciate all that, yeah, I'm making the uh, short time, as a short time, count, as best as I can with her.

'''BELLA''': Oh, I understand.

'''CHRIS''': ...we're seen out and about [?] in the future, plus, I don't want to take her away from the colleges she chose to go to, which I'm sure, is still in [presumably the Suitress's home state] right there.

'''BELLA''': Uh, how far away do you live- um, from [presumably the Suitress's home state]? Because I almost- I was gonna go to [presumably the Suitress's home state].

'''CHRIS''': Um, [presumably the Suitress's home state] [stammers] is on the West Coast, and Virginia is on the East Coast.

'''BELLA''': Right, right. And plus, she's young! She has a lot of time to, um, she has a lot of time to travel, visit you, I mean- You've done long distance before, haven't you?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, a long-distance relationships, but- [''Bella coughs loudly'']

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, they suck. I know they suck, but what's important is that you make, uh, you make a relationship with her now, and that way, it'll stay, like, forever! And she'll come back to you, like she'll come back to you, I'm sure!

'''CHRIS''': Yes, it is a possibility, but I am more- I am more open. I'm thinking more on the higher-likelihood outcomes for this timeline, obviously.

'''BELLA''': Oops, sorry, just trying to get adjusted. Okay, that makes sense. Goober- okay, Goober, buddy. There you go. He was just tryin' to get my lip [?]

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame.

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push it with <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[The Suitress]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."



'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. I'll have- I'll have just a screenshot- like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, um. You, uh- Oh, the dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': Well, we'll see. We'll see what we can arrange, because she obviously- because she only has the hotel room for the Friday night, and she would want to get home as- get home as quickly as possible, as she already... [inaudible] ...with her parents, and I don't want to- [Bella coughs loudly]

'''BELLA''': Oh yeah, her mom is pretty strict, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, but I mean, obviously, if she is, obviously, she is likely to, uh, head back home before the [unintelligible]

'''BELLA''': Oh, is she? Oh, no! I wanted to- I wanted to dance with her! Because I thought it'd be- Because I thought it'd be so cute! Because- since I'm there to protect you guys, right? I obviously, I'm gonna be enjoying the festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like um, I wanted to make a uh oh like slideshow, and like memory thingy. Of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have --"

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': Uh, yeah, like again. My main job is photographer and bodyguard, but, I could dance for a little, take photos of other ladies I might wanna dance with, y'know, have fun, [''trails off'']. You know don't- don't just limit yourself, and I- I- I appreciate that you like um, the idea of um, open relationships, right? But, if, uh, [the Suitress] really wants to like, commit and settle down with you would you take that seriously and stop having open relationships?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I- I would consider... I really would wish I could consider [Bella coughs] I did, obviously. I don't want to take her away from her college. She still has a lot to learn for herself and experience.

'''BELLA''': What if she- What if- I get that, but what if, in like ten years, after she's done with college, and you still have a good relationship, and she's grown to be a beautiful woman, and y'know, everything, she says, "Christine, I really really really want to settle down with you. I love you from the bottom of my heart." What would you do?

'''CHRIS''': Well, okay well, after she's done with college and she's got herself organized, uh, on the highly highly unlikely event... for this timeline that she ''doesn't'' meet her long-term sweetheart ['''BELLA''': Right.] who will be better for her, then I would definitely be up for considering.

'''BELLA''': Why do you think that she has somebody else that's better for her?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I mean, I can't reveal too many details, I just, um, can only say that- say that she's got...

'''BELLA''': Oh, is this some kind of psychic thingie? Did you look into the future?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, that's-

'''BELLA''': Oh, okay. I understand. Oh, I see. Well, that makes sense, then, that you're not so confident. Yeah, it just really depends on the person. ['''BELLA''': Yeah.] How long are you staying at the event for again? Sorry.

'''CHRIS''': Um, we'll stay and watch the dead- [''Bella coughs''] Uh, like the plane ticket said I'll be leaving on the following Monday the 16th.

'''BELLA''': Okay, so- yeah. I just coordinating with the flight thing because I get mine
for... because I get mine for like a really big discount or free depending where they put me right? So um they're just they're still kind of iffy, but I at least have the tickets, but they could change them. So, um, but you're, you're from Seattle to Washington, right? I don't know if we'll
be on the same flight but I could try, uh if they if they have two stops from like from Michigan to Seattle to um yeah to Washington. Or if it's from like, Massachusetts. Yep?

'''CHRIS''': We could- we'll figure something out.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, we will. It'll be fine. We could do it another time, 'cause I have a cough, and it's hard to talk, and my throat kinda hurts --

[''cut in the audio'']

'''BELLA''': Alright, I understand- that I know the kind of person you are, and you're a good, caring person. And I know that, uh, you're doing it 'cause you love your mother-

'''CHRIS''': Thank you. That means a lot.

'''BELLA''': Hehe, look at my cat. Can you see him?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, kinda hard to see. ...I see him when he [???]

'''BELLA''': Do you see how- um you see how chubby he is? Do you see all this fat coming out from his neck he's got so fa-

[''cut'']

'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right... Oh, okay, so yours is a bit bigger?"

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

[''cut'']

'''BELLA''': ...'cause I know you wanna be with somebody, like yeah, more experienced and younger, I know you already said this, but I'm just, you know.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, and that's- And that's also one thing I definitely appreciate and, uh, the upcoming time with [the Suitress], because apparently, she's uh, she's had five cases of having sex. Or, close to it at least.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, I believe so, she's said that she had it before. She- she seems to be very uh open, and like not- not scared or nervous she's experienced. And that's what you like, right?

'''CHRIS''': But then also she's also had that experience with the pedophile Japanese teacher, apparently.

'''BELLA''': Oh, dear, ooh. Yeah, I don't know why, but, you know, like, all the Loli things and stuff? Like, it again, if it's just a drawing, it's not that much of a problem, but when it's like, but, people don't realize that it does, it does kind of cause, um, it does cause people to get, you know, it stops becoming a joke, it becomes- people become more and more, like attracted, then there are some crazies in the world that might use it and become more, uh, more likely to do it in person. It's like, you know, they say that a lot of the, uh, serial killers, um, the reason they came that way was because of
pornography? You know how easy it is to find stuff like child porn online? It's disgusting, but it's everywhere!

'''CHRIS''': Yeeessss!

'''BELLA''': Oh my god, holy crap, that's nasty. I can't believe-

'''CHRIS''': I've been in jail before, so-

'''BELLA''': Oh, you have? I had no clue, really? ...Really?

'''CHRIS''': Um, well, essentially, uh, I've been in jail twice.

'''BELLA''': Oh, really?

'''CHRIS''': First time- First time was, uh, was... [[Snyder]] set off his trap on me that time, which... lead me to come back to the Game and Hobby PLace, yeah. So I spent time- spending one night in jail.

'''BELLA''': Oh, one night? Was there anybody there? ['''CHRIS''': Yeah.] In jail with you?

'''CHRIS''': Yes. Um, nobody was in the, uh, jail cell with me. [''unintelligible'']

[''The audio abruptly cuts out.'']

==Older versions==

===Original leak===
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The original version of the leak was posted on 29 July, edited by Bella and given to the Suitress to leak.<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Bella reacts to incest call|A discord leak where Bella admits to sending the Suitress the original 4-minute leak]]</ref> It was heavily censored to include only Chris's side of the conversation on the incest topic. It was deleted from YouTube for violating guidelines; an archive is at Kiwi Farms.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562171</ref>

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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but..."
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===Second leak===
This leak was created as soon as Bella gave the Suitress the full four hour audio.<ref>[[The Suitress texts#"I'm kinda scared"]]</ref> The second version, with [[Bella]]'s side of the conversation included, was leaked several hours later in a Vocaroo file. In this version, the Suitress decided to keep Bella's identity concealed, only to have her own personal information leaked by both Bella and Sean. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562186</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562230</ref>
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{{collapsible|state=mw-collapsed|Transcript|
'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push it with <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[The Suitress]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on Christory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating <nowiki>[</nowiki>the Suitress<nowiki>]</nowiki>, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
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===Third leak===
Uploaded by Bella's friend Ternary Mercury. Later deleted, but a copy was archived at Kiwi Farms.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/incest-call-unedited-15-minute-version.96719/post-9591061</ref>
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==See also==
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==
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Incest Call

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The '''incest call''' refers to a video call which took place between Chris and [[Bella]] in the early morning hours of 28 [[July 2021]].<ref name=BellaReaction>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Bella reacts to incest call]]</ref>

In the call, Chris discusses him and his mother having engaged in substantial sexual activity.

Audio from the call was publicly leaked multiple times with varying amounts of censorship. The first leak by [[the Suitress]] had a runtime of about 4 minutes and consisted only of Chris's voice, followed a few hours later by another cut with Bella's voice retained. In the following days more material was leaked by Bella, with the longest version being just over 21 minutes long. All leaked recordings have notable cuts in the audio.

Bella has claimed the full call lasted around four hours and that the bulk of conversation was a "long and actually very pleasant talk", but the full conversation was not recorded due to her iPad cutting off the recording.<ref name=BellaReaction/>

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===Transcript===


'''CHRIS''': ...We pro- we proceeded towards it more slowly.

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm putting the volume, for my- I can't- I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. It's hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS:''' "Not too many, not too many individuals this side of the [[Dimensional Merge|iron curtain]] were coming up to plate right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the- everything was coming into good alignment and it was, the signs were all [inaudible] [[Chris and religion#Concept of Emanuelle|Emanuelle]], you know, God, just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine!'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best ways to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously, tale- the incest fanfics have come true and shit."


'''BELLA''': I didn't even know there was such a thing! I didn't even know there was incest fanficsh- were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that I- I knew that you guys had a good ''relationship'', but I always thought- 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and y'know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I- I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had- I didn't have any idea that Barbara was, um, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those, uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I approached her with care and caution. And... it was a timed approach. So I just, gave her comfort, to talked with her, and we just branched out slow and steady, and that night I encouraged her positively, let ''her'' make the first move, 'cause she wanted to do it an'...

'''BELLA''' (interrupting): Oh, she did? Really? She made the first move?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah.

'''BELLA''': Oh. Oh, really? Wow, ''Barbara'', ha ha! How- how did she do, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] Uh, I don't remember exact- well, that was her first move but my approach was... Hm. Well, I forgot exactly what it- what terminology approach I used but, care and caution.

'''BELLA''': That's good.

'''CHRIS''': And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.

'''BELLA''': That's good. And how did she respond when you, uh, when you, um, approached her? What did she say?

'''CHRIS''': I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was [[Rape|partially confused]] at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.

'''BELLA''': Right, so she... so she got into it. How was the first kiss? You kissed her? How did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life, how did that feel?

'''CHRIS''': Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right.

'''BELLA''': When did you start having feelings for Barbara?


'''CHRIS''': Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of my videos that I even had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So...

'''BELLA''': Really, yeah? Is that, um, I- I- I've heard of- I don't know what it is, per, uh, per se, but, is that what Oh-dipus complex is called, is when, uh, um, is when, you like your mother? Is that what it's called, I don't know what it means, though, I just thought, I thought, I just thought might be.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, the uh, that's right, the {{w|Oedipus complex}}.

'''BELLA''': Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right, ennh... how, how if you don't mind me asking it, I know it's probably personal, you don't have to ''answer'', but... how is the sex?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory, it took a while, took a few tries to...

'''BELLA''': [''giggling''] It took a few tries? Yeah... she is o- she is ''older''...

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, plus, uh, also she's very exstanding about the whole thing as well, I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, made sure that I, yeah, obviously, I'm never gonna propose marriage to her at all 'cause we're already daughter and... mom...

'''BELLA''': Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter, that's true. I'm- I'm pretty close to my mom, I don't- I don't think I'd be ''that'' close, but... I do- I do in some ways project, you know, the kind of woman I'm interested in, with the kind of woman my mother is, and I didn't realize it until I got older. I was like, wow! She's- she's not- she kind of, y'know, similar- has similar qualities to my mother! And I think, 'Oh! Well, shoot!' Um, I'm very- I'm glad that you're telling me, because a lot of people would hold this inside, and it would tear them apart, you know, but then again, yeah your, your body is, um, your body now, isn't it
only like a projection of your true form? Aren't you from like, you're from like another dimension, right? You're a Sonichu.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, well, not really a projection because this body is interdimensional. [''continues speaking, inaudible as Bella cuts him off'']

'''BELLA''': Yeah, it's interdimensional. But are you related to Barbara in, um, are you related to Barbara, in like, um, the different dimensions?

'''CHRIS''': [''stress sigh''] I'm not sure how to answer that question off the bat right now, 'cause-

'''BELLA''': Right. You're just still figuring it out. How long have you two been going at it?

'''CHRIS''': Well, we've been um, doing it every third n-

[''Bella sneezes'']

'''BELLA''': Sorry?

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, at least you have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, that's sweet. That's sweet. I call my girlfriend 'love' too. Well, I used to, the old one, haha. I- I don't- you're- you're in a relationship and I'm not, so you're- you're more experienced than I am, definitely. But you recently started dating [the Suitress], isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you? I always thought the dentist was a sham, because whenever I- because they say i'm genetically prone to get cavities, even though I brush my teeth all the time, and no matter how I brush my teeth and floss and I get a cavity. The thing is if you ignore it i mean by ignore you like take care of it yourself it goes away for me. But I never- I don't think I've ever got a crown in, yeah. I've gotten- gotten a gold over here."


'''CHRIS''': Yeah, well, anyway. Uh, so I had to get roots now, before [?]

'''BELLA''': Right. Ow, that hurts, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, I could- Yeah, I could appreciate that as well, but... uh, she's not exactly one for the shopping time, but- ['''BELLA''': Right.] Yeah, all these- ['''BELLA''': Right.] It wasn't- She's still trying to remember her inner child... ['''BELLA''': Right, that's true, yeah.] ...might as well, but I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy? Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, obviously, but, y'know, obviously, if I could find some...

'''BELLA''': There's [the Suitress]! [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! [The Suitress]- yeah, [The Suitress]'s very interested in you! She's a super-girl. Yeah.

'''CHRIS''': I have foreseen- I have lived in the future, and I know she's gonna find her better, long-term sweetheart.

'''BELLA''': [The Suitress]?

'''CHRIS''': On campus.

'''BELLA''': Are you sure? ['''CHRIS''': Yeah.] Because [the Suitress]- [the Suitress] talks to me, saying how great you are, and how much she loves you, right? Maybe 'cause the future can change, with fate?

'''CHRIS''': Um, it's a possibility, but it's-

'''BELLA''': Why don't you try for her? Because- y'know- 'cause [stammers] [the Suitress] consented [?] to having an open relationship, right? I'm sure she's- you're fine, with, uh, both of them now. BUt, over time, [the Suitress] really, really, really adores you. And she's a wonderful girl. I text her a lot, we chat. We, um- She has never said a single negative thing about you. She- She adores you, like, and- She'll be more open to stuff like, you know, having spa days, getting pizza, going out together, you know, and, she's um, she's probably newer in the bedroom, but she's willing to do it. She's willing to have fun with you.

'''CHRIS''': Yes, I agree. And I appreciate all that, yeah, I'm making the uh, short time, as a short time, count, as best as I can with her.

'''BELLA''': Oh, I understand.

'''CHRIS''': ...we're seen out and about [?] in the future, plus, I don't want to take her away from the colleges she chose to go to, which I'm sure, is still in [presumably the Suitress's home state] right there.

'''BELLA''': Uh, how far away do you live- um, from [presumably the Suitress's home state]? Because I almost- I was gonna go to [presumably the Suitress's home state].

'''CHRIS''': Um, [presumably the Suitress's home state] [stammers] is on the West Coast, and Virginia is on the East Coast.

'''BELLA''': Right, right. And plus, she's young! She has a lot of time to, um, she has a lot of time to travel, visit you, I mean- You've done long distance before, haven't you?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, yeah, a long-distance relationships, but- [''Bella coughs loudly'']

'''BELLA''': Oh, yeah, they suck. I know they suck, but what's important is that you make, uh, you make a relationship with her now, and that way, it'll stay, like, forever! And she'll come back to you, like she'll come back to you, I'm sure!

'''CHRIS''': Yes, it is a possibility, but I am more- I am more open. I'm thinking more on the higher-likelihood outcomes for this timeline, obviously.

'''BELLA''': Oops, sorry, just trying to get adjusted. Okay, that makes sense. Goober- okay, Goober, buddy. There you go. He was just tryin' to get my lip [?]

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame.

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push it with <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[The Suitress]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."



'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. I'll have- I'll have just a screenshot- like a slideshow of romantic stuff between you guys, um. You, uh- Oh, the dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': Well, we'll see. We'll see what we can arrange, because she obviously- because she only has the hotel room for the Friday night, and she would want to get home as- get home as quickly as possible, as she already... [inaudible] ...with her parents, and I don't want to- [Bella coughs loudly]

'''BELLA''': Oh yeah, her mom is pretty strict, yeah.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, but I mean, obviously, if she is, obviously, she is likely to, uh, head back home before the [unintelligible]

'''BELLA''': Oh, is she? Oh, no! I wanted to- I wanted to dance with her! Because I thought it'd be- Because I thought it'd be so cute! Because- since I'm there to protect you guys, right? I obviously, I'm gonna be enjoying the festivities with you two, but I wanted to take like um, I wanted to make a uh oh like slideshow, and like memory thingy. Of you guys together.

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have --"

[''Cut in the audio.'']

'''BELLA''': Uh, yeah, like again. My main job is photographer and bodyguard, but, I could dance for a little, take photos of other ladies I might wanna dance with, y'know, have fun, [''trails off'']. You know don't- don't just limit yourself, and I- I- I appreciate that you like um, the idea of um, open relationships, right? But, if, uh, [the Suitress] really wants to like, commit and settle down with you would you take that seriously and stop having open relationships?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I- I would consider... I really would wish I could consider [Bella coughs] I did, obviously. I don't want to take her away from her college. She still has a lot to learn for herself and experience.

'''BELLA''': What if she- What if- I get that, but what if, in like ten years, after she's done with college, and you still have a good relationship, and she's grown to be a beautiful woman, and y'know, everything, she says, "Christine, I really really really want to settle down with you. I love you from the bottom of my heart." What would you do?

'''CHRIS''': Well, okay well, after she's done with college and she's got herself organized, uh, on the highly highly unlikely event... for this timeline that she ''doesn't'' meet her long-term sweetheart ['''BELLA''': Right.] who will be better for her, then I would definitely be up for considering.

'''BELLA''': Why do you think that she has somebody else that's better for her?

'''CHRIS''': Well, I mean, I can't reveal too many details, I just, um, can only say that- say that she's got...

'''BELLA''': Oh, is this some kind of psychic thingie? Did you look into the future?

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, that's-

'''BELLA''': Oh, okay. I understand. Oh, I see. Well, that makes sense, then, that you're not so confident. Yeah, it just really depends on the person. ['''BELLA''': Yeah.] How long are you staying at the event for again? Sorry.

'''CHRIS''': Um, we'll stay and watch the dead- [''Bella coughs''] Uh, like the plane ticket said I'll be leaving on the following Monday the 16th.

'''BELLA''': Okay, so- yeah. I just coordinating with the flight thing because I get mine
for... because I get mine for like a really big discount or free depending where they put me right? So um they're just they're still kind of iffy, but I at least have the tickets, but they could change them. So, um, but you're, you're from Seattle to Washington, right? I don't know if we'll
be on the same flight but I could try, uh if they if they have two stops from like from Michigan to Seattle to um yeah to Washington. Or if it's from like, Massachusetts. Yep?

'''CHRIS''': We could- we'll figure something out.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, we will. It'll be fine. We could do it another time, 'cause I have a cough, and it's hard to talk, and my throat kinda hurts --

[''cut in the audio'']

'''BELLA''': Alright, I understand- that I know the kind of person you are, and you're a good, caring person. And I know that, uh, you're doing it 'cause you love your mother-

'''CHRIS''': Thank you. That means a lot.

'''BELLA''': Hehe, look at my cat. Can you see him?

'''CHRIS''': Uh, kinda hard to see. ...I see him when he [???]

'''BELLA''': Do you see how- um you see how chubby he is? Do you see all this fat coming out from his neck he's got so fa-

[''cut'']

'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right... Oh, okay, so yours is a bit bigger?"

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

[''cut'']

'''BELLA''': ...'cause I know you wanna be with somebody, like yeah, more experienced and younger, I know you already said this, but I'm just, you know.

'''CHRIS''': Yeah, and that's- And that's also one thing I definitely appreciate and, uh, the upcoming time with [the Suitress], because apparently, she's uh, she's had five cases of having sex. Or, close to it at least.

'''BELLA''': Yeah, I believe so, she's said that she had it before. She- she seems to be very uh open, and like not- not scared or nervous she's experienced. And that's what you like, right?

'''CHRIS''': But then also she's also had that experience with the pedophile Japanese teacher, apparently.

'''BELLA''': Oh, dear, ooh. Yeah, I don't know why, but, you know, like, all the Loli things and stuff? Like, it again, if it's just a drawing, it's not that much of a problem, but when it's like, but, people don't realize that it does, it does kind of cause, um, it does cause people to get, you know, it stops becoming a joke, it becomes- people become more and more, like attracted, then there are some crazies in the world that might use it and become more, uh, more likely to do it in person. It's like, you know, they say that a lot of the, uh, serial killers, um, the reason they came that way was because of
pornography? You know how easy it is to find stuff like child porn online? It's disgusting, but it's everywhere!

'''CHRIS''': Yeeessss!

'''BELLA''': Oh my god, holy crap, that's nasty. I can't believe-

'''CHRIS''': I've been in jail before, so-

'''BELLA''': Oh, you have? I had no clue, really? ...Really?

'''CHRIS''': Um, well, essentially, uh, I've been in jail twice.

'''BELLA''': Oh, really?

'''CHRIS''': First time- First time was, uh, was... [[Snyder]] set off his trap on me that time, which... lead me to come back to the Game and Hobby PLace, yeah. So I spent time- spending one night in jail.

'''BELLA''': Oh, one night? Was there anybody there? ['''CHRIS''': Yeah.] In jail with you?

'''CHRIS''': Yes. Um, nobody was in the, uh, jail cell with me. [''unintelligible'']

[''The audio abruptly cuts out.'']

==Older versions==

===Original leak===
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The original version of the leak was posted on 29 July, edited by Bella and given to the Suitress to leak.<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Bella reacts to incest call|A discord leak where Bella admits to sending the Suitress the original 4-minute leak]]</ref> It was heavily censored to include only Chris's side of the conversation on the incest topic. It was deleted from YouTube for violating guidelines; an archive is at Kiwi Farms.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562171</ref>

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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but..."
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===Second leak===
This leak was created as soon as Bella gave the Suitress the full four hour audio.<ref>[[The Suitress texts#"I'm kinda scared"]]</ref> The second version, with [[Bella]]'s side of the conversation included, was leaked several hours later in a Vocaroo file. In this version, the Suitress decided to keep Bella's identity concealed, only to have her own personal information leaked by both Bella and Sean. <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562186</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reddit-discord-trannies-leak-chris-audio.96523/post-9562230</ref>
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{{collapsible|state=mw-collapsed|Transcript|
'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah [[Barbara|she's]] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, [[Bob|Mr. C]], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands, they... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push it with <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[The Suitress]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, there is a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on Christory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 27th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating <nowiki>[</nowiki>the Suitress<nowiki>]</nowiki>, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi-, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you Christine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, God. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
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===Third leak===
Uploaded by Bella's friend Ternary Mercury. Later deleted, but a copy was archived at Kiwi Farms.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/incest-call-unedited-15-minute-version.96719/post-9591061</ref>
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==See also==
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==
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2021-10-23T09:08:07Z

Jelq:

===Third leak===
Uploaded by Bella's friend Ternary Mercury. Later deleted, but a copy was archived at Kiwi Farms.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/incest-call-unedited-15-minute-version.96719/post-9591061</ref>
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2021-10-23T09:07:41Z

Jelq:

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2021-10-23T08:56:19Z

Jelq: Made a sandbox, experimenting with videos

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2021-10-23T08:39:25Z

Jelq: Created the Talk page.

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2021-10-23T08:38:38Z

Jelq: Made my User page.

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