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Caden Peck

2023-10-27T17:50:54Z

Jimmy747: /* Post-Jail Interactions */

{{Unreliable|type=cred|Caden is known to be an attention seeker, getting in contact with Chris solely to profit off his internet fame.|Praetor as a whole is known to say edgy things for shock value<ref>[[:File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg]]</ref>|Caden has lied in the past to save face<ref>At one point Caden claimed to have ties with Larry Vaughn, but he later claimed to have never interacted with him.</ref>}}

{{quote|Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.|Chris on Caden<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Everyone's favorite person|Caden's classmates on him<ref>https://archive.md/HuKdS#selection-111.0-114.0</ref>}}
{{quote|Our goal is not just to be screwing with Christine. Our goal here is just to make cash with her, as a partnership - right?|Caden<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
|image = CadenP.png
|name = Caden Peck
|gender = Male
|day = 27
|month = 9
|year = 2002
|aliases = Praetor tinyhorse01
|race = White
|nationality = [[American]]
|saga = {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}, {{saga|jail|cn}}
}}

'''Caden Peck''', also known as '''tinyhorse01''' is the leader and founder of '''[[Praetor]]'''. A college-aged aspiring filmmaker<ref>https://issuu.com/goochlandgazette/docs/20191205rsga</ref>, he is the most active member of Praetor. It can be inferred that most of Praetor's decisions are made by him, judging by the fact that other members are rarely mentioned by Chris. He ran the Praetor [[Discord]] account, which he used to frequently get in feuds with [[Watchmen]] members, especially so during the [[Taser]] controversy.

During the [[Jail Saga]], many people cut ties with Chris due to his alleged [[Affair With Mother|appalling actions]]. Caden, however, continued contacting Chris, possibly to an even higher degree than before, sending him letters often. Caden also frequently communicated with [[Barb]] during this saga, trying to get her to move out of [[14 Branchland Court]] so Chris could live in the house instead.

==Business with Chris==

During [[January 2021]], Caden created the [[Golden Church of Sonichu]] using the Praetor [[Discord]] account, where he would sometimes post. His most notable post from the server mentioned 'Praetor Flamethrowers' and 'sale of Potions', along with other bizarre things.

Due to Chris's worries about [[Jacob Sockness]] finding him at [[Everfree Northwest]], he contacted Caden to help assemble a 'posse' to protect him<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sockness alert]]</ref>. It's unknown how Caden responded to this, however it's possible that he was the one to recommend [[Bella]] to protect him, as she has relation to [[Praetor]].

Caden also had plans to buy Chris a PC so he could do more streams<ref>[[The_Knights_of_CWC_chats_(July_2021)#The_"Older_Lady_Friend"_Call_(Second_Layer_commentary)|Older Lady Friend Call]]</ref>, however these plans were cut short by [[Incest Arrest|Chris's arrest]].

===Larry Vaughn===

In January, Caden had a phone call with the [[troll]] [[Larry Vaughn]]<ref>[[Larry_Vaughn_DMs#Coded_Message_for_Twitter_Users]]</ref>, though the contents of the call are unknown. A month later, Caden stated that he had no relation to Vaughn<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>, likely a lie to save face. Around the same time, Vaughn started making bold claims on [[Kiwi Farms]] about Praetor, including Caden<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)]]</ref>.

{{quote|Still hard to believe that [Caden] legit thought that I was the representative of a group of rich folks that would buy shitty medallions so we could roleplay with Chris in a private Discord server.|A post by Vaughn on [[Kiwi Farms]]}}

Larry Vaughn is known to be an unreliable narrator, so the truth of these claims are unknown.

==Watchmen Interactions==
{{quote|I can't take your word for anything cause you're a freakin pathological liar Caden!|[[MKRNightVee]], also a notorious liar<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

In [[October 2020]], Caden started talking in [[The Place]], which was the [[Watchmen]]'s [[Discord]] server at the time, giving an overview of business ideas<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref> and engaging in small talk.<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#More Food Discussion With Praetor]]</ref>

On 8 [[February 2021]], Chris wanted to borrow a [[taser]] from Praetor to try tazing his quartz crystals in an attempt to bring about the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Caden was initially willing to let Chris use it, and defended himself from criticism by the [[Watchmen]], stating that Chris was entirely responsible for the idea, and that he was not in any danger. The Watchmen started childishly insulting Caden, which he responded to sarcastically.

{{quote|Ooh [[Val]], no need to get nasty!
We might cry!|Caden, using the Praetor Discord account<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]</ref>}}

In the same day, he enter a [[Taser Discussion|voice call]] with multiple Watchmen members and Chris himself, where he says that Chris is an adult and capable of making his own choices. During this call, he also enables his delusions of the Dimensional Merge by saying that there truly is a possibility of the Taser creating a portal. Bizarrely, he states that he has ''tazed himself'' multiple times, in order to test the taser out. Near the end of the call, Watchmen member [[Val]] joked that Chris ought to taze himself on video, to which Chris replied that "in serious and in joke" that he was willing to do it. Caden objected, saying it is a bad idea.

After the call, [[Naught]] posted an out-of-context clip, mainly consisting of talk surrounding Val's comment, to the [[Kiwi Farms]] forum. Naught summarized the clip as, "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that it had been Val who had made the comment about Chris tazing himself.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discussion clip]]</ref>

A few days after the call, Chris posted on [[The Place]] disapproving of the Watchmen's rudeness towards Caden. [[MKR]] and [[Kyle]] reacted by doubling down, with MKR claiming that Caden 'bullied' her, and stating that he was comparable to [[Jacob Sockness]] and [[Joshua Wise]].<ref>[[The_Place_chats_-_Watchmen-Praetor_confrontations#13_February_2021]]</ref>

{{quote|I was bullied by caden first then he gave the most laughably insincere apology possible|[[MKR]]}}

Also after the call, [[Naught]] and [[Larry Vaughn]] both teamed up to dox Caden on [[Kiwi Farms]]. Being doxxed did not deter Caden from interacting with Chris.

Eventually, [[The WCT]] became the leader of the [[Watchmen]]. He was far more accepting of [[Praetor]], calling them a 'necessary evil' and wanting to be friends with Caden to make sure he does nothing bad. Despite WCT trying hard, he was unable to get in contact with Caden<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)]]</ref>.

==Jail Involvement==

After the [[Incest Call|incest leaks]], [[The Suitress|most]] [[The WCT|cut]] [[Null|ties]] [[Isabella Janke|with]] Chris. However, Caden continued to interact with him through letters, and became one of the most active figures in the [[Jail Saga]]. After Chris was kicked out of [[14 Branchland Court]] for his [[Affair With Mother|sex with Barb]], Chris contacted Caden to try and get a hotel, though it's unknown how he responded <ref>[[WCT_DMs#Asking_about_Incest_Call_leak]]</ref>.

During his stay in jail, Chris started writing a 'Goddess Log', which is what he called his journal that he wrote his every thought in. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|Jail Call]] from [[November 2021]], Chris mentioned that Caden was going to scan this log and then publish it. It is unknown if this is still planned.

For the next half year, Chris remained relatively quiet about Caden, until [[June 2022]] when he suggested to [[Helena Fiorenza]] that she and Caden should collaborate<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 June 2022]]</ref>. Why exactly he wanted these two specifically to collaborate was never explained, but Chris kept mentioning it in future letters. Helena eventually tried to reach out to Caden, but got no response from him<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref>.

In a Jail Letter to [[Kenneth Engelhardt]], Chris mentioned Caden again.

{{quote|Caden (Praetor) is genuinely one who is able to speak on my behalf when appropriate, and is in friendship and business association with I in mutual agreements; Include Him on the Fan Project Website, period, please.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 14 July 2022]]</ref>}}

After Chris asked, Caden confirmed that [[Barb]] was still at [[14 Branchland Court]]. Chris then asked him to call the police on her, for her supposed crimes.

{{quote|So, giving him the list of her charable crimes, including pet negigance/mistreatment, suicide threats, emotional manipulation and abuse upon I, and ADA’s law of using someone else’s SSI, I have instructed Caden alone, to call the police on her.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]]</ref>}}

It's very unlikely that Caden went through with this, though Caden proceeded with 'persuading her and presenting her with the Truths of the Legality'. If this is true, this would make Caden one of the very few people to have contact with Barb during the Jail Saga.

The two decided on starting a $150,000 fundraiser to pay off Chris's mortgages and debts, and to put Barb in an Elderly Care Home, with the help of [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] and [[Helena Fiorenza]]<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)]]</ref>. After Kenneth judged Caden for this, Chris berated him through a letter.

{{quote|He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)|Jail Letter - 22 July 2022]]</ref>}}

Chris's last mention of Caden as of now was in an [[August 2022]] [[Jail Letter - 2 August 2022|Jail Letter]], where he asks [[Kenneth]] to help relay the kickstarter page he started. Ultimately, the fundraiser led to [[Kenneth Engelhardt]], [[Helena Fiorenza]] and [[Eels and the Egg-man]] all cutting ties with Chris. The goal was, like expected, never reached.

The current status of Chris and Caden's relationship is unknown, as Chris stopped publicly communicating through letters in [[August 2022]]. However, due to Chris's return to the internet recently, it is not unlikely that Caden could play a major role in the new [[saga]], as him and Chris were last seen on good terms.

==Post-Jail Interactions==
On 26 October 2023, Chris received a call from Caden on [[The_Return_of_Jesus_Christ_Chan_Sonichu_Prime|a livestream]], confirming that they are in contact and likely still doing business.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
File:Tinyhorse02.png|Look at that shit-eating grin.
File:Praetor3.jpg|Note Chris's bald spot.
File:Praetor Instagram tags copy-min.png|Caden with other Praetor members.
File:PraetorLLC.jpg|Another version without the Instagram tags.
File:Theunoriginals.jpg|Picture from his and his friends website.
</gallery></center>

==See Also==
*[[Praetor]]
*[[Taser Discussion]]
*[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]
*[[Jail Communications]]

{{References}}
{{Notes}}
{{PraetorSaga}}
{{JailSaga}}

Caden Peck

2023-10-27T17:50:35Z

Jimmy747: /* Post-Jail Interactions */

{{Unreliable|type=cred|Caden is known to be an attention seeker, getting in contact with Chris solely to profit off his internet fame.|Praetor as a whole is known to say edgy things for shock value<ref>[[:File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg]]</ref>|Caden has lied in the past to save face<ref>At one point Caden claimed to have ties with Larry Vaughn, but he later claimed to have never interacted with him.</ref>}}

{{quote|Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.|Chris on Caden<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Everyone's favorite person|Caden's classmates on him<ref>https://archive.md/HuKdS#selection-111.0-114.0</ref>}}
{{quote|Our goal is not just to be screwing with Christine. Our goal here is just to make cash with her, as a partnership - right?|Caden<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
|image = CadenP.png
|name = Caden Peck
|gender = Male
|day = 27
|month = 9
|year = 2002
|aliases = Praetor tinyhorse01
|race = White
|nationality = [[American]]
|saga = {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}, {{saga|jail|cn}}
}}

'''Caden Peck''', also known as '''tinyhorse01''' is the leader and founder of '''[[Praetor]]'''. A college-aged aspiring filmmaker<ref>https://issuu.com/goochlandgazette/docs/20191205rsga</ref>, he is the most active member of Praetor. It can be inferred that most of Praetor's decisions are made by him, judging by the fact that other members are rarely mentioned by Chris. He ran the Praetor [[Discord]] account, which he used to frequently get in feuds with [[Watchmen]] members, especially so during the [[Taser]] controversy.

During the [[Jail Saga]], many people cut ties with Chris due to his alleged [[Affair With Mother|appalling actions]]. Caden, however, continued contacting Chris, possibly to an even higher degree than before, sending him letters often. Caden also frequently communicated with [[Barb]] during this saga, trying to get her to move out of [[14 Branchland Court]] so Chris could live in the house instead.

==Business with Chris==

During [[January 2021]], Caden created the [[Golden Church of Sonichu]] using the Praetor [[Discord]] account, where he would sometimes post. His most notable post from the server mentioned 'Praetor Flamethrowers' and 'sale of Potions', along with other bizarre things.

Due to Chris's worries about [[Jacob Sockness]] finding him at [[Everfree Northwest]], he contacted Caden to help assemble a 'posse' to protect him<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sockness alert]]</ref>. It's unknown how Caden responded to this, however it's possible that he was the one to recommend [[Bella]] to protect him, as she has relation to [[Praetor]].

Caden also had plans to buy Chris a PC so he could do more streams<ref>[[The_Knights_of_CWC_chats_(July_2021)#The_"Older_Lady_Friend"_Call_(Second_Layer_commentary)|Older Lady Friend Call]]</ref>, however these plans were cut short by [[Incest Arrest|Chris's arrest]].

===Larry Vaughn===

In January, Caden had a phone call with the [[troll]] [[Larry Vaughn]]<ref>[[Larry_Vaughn_DMs#Coded_Message_for_Twitter_Users]]</ref>, though the contents of the call are unknown. A month later, Caden stated that he had no relation to Vaughn<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>, likely a lie to save face. Around the same time, Vaughn started making bold claims on [[Kiwi Farms]] about Praetor, including Caden<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)]]</ref>.

{{quote|Still hard to believe that [Caden] legit thought that I was the representative of a group of rich folks that would buy shitty medallions so we could roleplay with Chris in a private Discord server.|A post by Vaughn on [[Kiwi Farms]]}}

Larry Vaughn is known to be an unreliable narrator, so the truth of these claims are unknown.

==Watchmen Interactions==
{{quote|I can't take your word for anything cause you're a freakin pathological liar Caden!|[[MKRNightVee]], also a notorious liar<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

In [[October 2020]], Caden started talking in [[The Place]], which was the [[Watchmen]]'s [[Discord]] server at the time, giving an overview of business ideas<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref> and engaging in small talk.<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#More Food Discussion With Praetor]]</ref>

On 8 [[February 2021]], Chris wanted to borrow a [[taser]] from Praetor to try tazing his quartz crystals in an attempt to bring about the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Caden was initially willing to let Chris use it, and defended himself from criticism by the [[Watchmen]], stating that Chris was entirely responsible for the idea, and that he was not in any danger. The Watchmen started childishly insulting Caden, which he responded to sarcastically.

{{quote|Ooh [[Val]], no need to get nasty!
We might cry!|Caden, using the Praetor Discord account<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]</ref>}}

In the same day, he enter a [[Taser Discussion|voice call]] with multiple Watchmen members and Chris himself, where he says that Chris is an adult and capable of making his own choices. During this call, he also enables his delusions of the Dimensional Merge by saying that there truly is a possibility of the Taser creating a portal. Bizarrely, he states that he has ''tazed himself'' multiple times, in order to test the taser out. Near the end of the call, Watchmen member [[Val]] joked that Chris ought to taze himself on video, to which Chris replied that "in serious and in joke" that he was willing to do it. Caden objected, saying it is a bad idea.

After the call, [[Naught]] posted an out-of-context clip, mainly consisting of talk surrounding Val's comment, to the [[Kiwi Farms]] forum. Naught summarized the clip as, "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that it had been Val who had made the comment about Chris tazing himself.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discussion clip]]</ref>

A few days after the call, Chris posted on [[The Place]] disapproving of the Watchmen's rudeness towards Caden. [[MKR]] and [[Kyle]] reacted by doubling down, with MKR claiming that Caden 'bullied' her, and stating that he was comparable to [[Jacob Sockness]] and [[Joshua Wise]].<ref>[[The_Place_chats_-_Watchmen-Praetor_confrontations#13_February_2021]]</ref>

{{quote|I was bullied by caden first then he gave the most laughably insincere apology possible|[[MKR]]}}

Also after the call, [[Naught]] and [[Larry Vaughn]] both teamed up to dox Caden on [[Kiwi Farms]]. Being doxxed did not deter Caden from interacting with Chris.

Eventually, [[The WCT]] became the leader of the [[Watchmen]]. He was far more accepting of [[Praetor]], calling them a 'necessary evil' and wanting to be friends with Caden to make sure he does nothing bad. Despite WCT trying hard, he was unable to get in contact with Caden<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)]]</ref>.

==Jail Involvement==

After the [[Incest Call|incest leaks]], [[The Suitress|most]] [[The WCT|cut]] [[Null|ties]] [[Isabella Janke|with]] Chris. However, Caden continued to interact with him through letters, and became one of the most active figures in the [[Jail Saga]]. After Chris was kicked out of [[14 Branchland Court]] for his [[Affair With Mother|sex with Barb]], Chris contacted Caden to try and get a hotel, though it's unknown how he responded <ref>[[WCT_DMs#Asking_about_Incest_Call_leak]]</ref>.

During his stay in jail, Chris started writing a 'Goddess Log', which is what he called his journal that he wrote his every thought in. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|Jail Call]] from [[November 2021]], Chris mentioned that Caden was going to scan this log and then publish it. It is unknown if this is still planned.

For the next half year, Chris remained relatively quiet about Caden, until [[June 2022]] when he suggested to [[Helena Fiorenza]] that she and Caden should collaborate<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 June 2022]]</ref>. Why exactly he wanted these two specifically to collaborate was never explained, but Chris kept mentioning it in future letters. Helena eventually tried to reach out to Caden, but got no response from him<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref>.

In a Jail Letter to [[Kenneth Engelhardt]], Chris mentioned Caden again.

{{quote|Caden (Praetor) is genuinely one who is able to speak on my behalf when appropriate, and is in friendship and business association with I in mutual agreements; Include Him on the Fan Project Website, period, please.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 14 July 2022]]</ref>}}

After Chris asked, Caden confirmed that [[Barb]] was still at [[14 Branchland Court]]. Chris then asked him to call the police on her, for her supposed crimes.

{{quote|So, giving him the list of her charable crimes, including pet negigance/mistreatment, suicide threats, emotional manipulation and abuse upon I, and ADA’s law of using someone else’s SSI, I have instructed Caden alone, to call the police on her.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]]</ref>}}

It's very unlikely that Caden went through with this, though Caden proceeded with 'persuading her and presenting her with the Truths of the Legality'. If this is true, this would make Caden one of the very few people to have contact with Barb during the Jail Saga.

The two decided on starting a $150,000 fundraiser to pay off Chris's mortgages and debts, and to put Barb in an Elderly Care Home, with the help of [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] and [[Helena Fiorenza]]<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)]]</ref>. After Kenneth judged Caden for this, Chris berated him through a letter.

{{quote|He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)|Jail Letter - 22 July 2022]]</ref>}}

Chris's last mention of Caden as of now was in an [[August 2022]] [[Jail Letter - 2 August 2022|Jail Letter]], where he asks [[Kenneth]] to help relay the kickstarter page he started. Ultimately, the fundraiser led to [[Kenneth Engelhardt]], [[Helena Fiorenza]] and [[Eels and the Egg-man]] all cutting ties with Chris. The goal was, like expected, never reached.

The current status of Chris and Caden's relationship is unknown, as Chris stopped publicly communicating through letters in [[August 2022]]. However, due to Chris's return to the internet recently, it is not unlikely that Caden could play a major role in the new [[saga]], as him and Chris were last seen on good terms.

==Post-Jail Interactions==
On 26 October 2023, Chris received a call from Caden on [[The_Return_of_Jesus_Christ_Chan_Sonichu_Prime|a livestream]], confirming that they are in contact, and likely still doing business.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
File:Tinyhorse02.png|Look at that shit-eating grin.
File:Praetor3.jpg|Note Chris's bald spot.
File:Praetor Instagram tags copy-min.png|Caden with other Praetor members.
File:PraetorLLC.jpg|Another version without the Instagram tags.
File:Theunoriginals.jpg|Picture from his and his friends website.
</gallery></center>

==See Also==
*[[Praetor]]
*[[Taser Discussion]]
*[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]
*[[Jail Communications]]

{{References}}
{{Notes}}
{{PraetorSaga}}
{{JailSaga}}

Caden Peck

2023-10-27T17:49:47Z

Jimmy747:

{{Unreliable|type=cred|Caden is known to be an attention seeker, getting in contact with Chris solely to profit off his internet fame.|Praetor as a whole is known to say edgy things for shock value<ref>[[:File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg]]</ref>|Caden has lied in the past to save face<ref>At one point Caden claimed to have ties with Larry Vaughn, but he later claimed to have never interacted with him.</ref>}}

{{quote|Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.|Chris on Caden<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Everyone's favorite person|Caden's classmates on him<ref>https://archive.md/HuKdS#selection-111.0-114.0</ref>}}
{{quote|Our goal is not just to be screwing with Christine. Our goal here is just to make cash with her, as a partnership - right?|Caden<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
|image = CadenP.png
|name = Caden Peck
|gender = Male
|day = 27
|month = 9
|year = 2002
|aliases = Praetor tinyhorse01
|race = White
|nationality = [[American]]
|saga = {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}, {{saga|jail|cn}}
}}

'''Caden Peck''', also known as '''tinyhorse01''' is the leader and founder of '''[[Praetor]]'''. A college-aged aspiring filmmaker<ref>https://issuu.com/goochlandgazette/docs/20191205rsga</ref>, he is the most active member of Praetor. It can be inferred that most of Praetor's decisions are made by him, judging by the fact that other members are rarely mentioned by Chris. He ran the Praetor [[Discord]] account, which he used to frequently get in feuds with [[Watchmen]] members, especially so during the [[Taser]] controversy.

During the [[Jail Saga]], many people cut ties with Chris due to his alleged [[Affair With Mother|appalling actions]]. Caden, however, continued contacting Chris, possibly to an even higher degree than before, sending him letters often. Caden also frequently communicated with [[Barb]] during this saga, trying to get her to move out of [[14 Branchland Court]] so Chris could live in the house instead.

==Business with Chris==

During [[January 2021]], Caden created the [[Golden Church of Sonichu]] using the Praetor [[Discord]] account, where he would sometimes post. His most notable post from the server mentioned 'Praetor Flamethrowers' and 'sale of Potions', along with other bizarre things.

Due to Chris's worries about [[Jacob Sockness]] finding him at [[Everfree Northwest]], he contacted Caden to help assemble a 'posse' to protect him<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sockness alert]]</ref>. It's unknown how Caden responded to this, however it's possible that he was the one to recommend [[Bella]] to protect him, as she has relation to [[Praetor]].

Caden also had plans to buy Chris a PC so he could do more streams<ref>[[The_Knights_of_CWC_chats_(July_2021)#The_"Older_Lady_Friend"_Call_(Second_Layer_commentary)|Older Lady Friend Call]]</ref>, however these plans were cut short by [[Incest Arrest|Chris's arrest]].

===Larry Vaughn===

In January, Caden had a phone call with the [[troll]] [[Larry Vaughn]]<ref>[[Larry_Vaughn_DMs#Coded_Message_for_Twitter_Users]]</ref>, though the contents of the call are unknown. A month later, Caden stated that he had no relation to Vaughn<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>, likely a lie to save face. Around the same time, Vaughn started making bold claims on [[Kiwi Farms]] about Praetor, including Caden<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)]]</ref>.

{{quote|Still hard to believe that [Caden] legit thought that I was the representative of a group of rich folks that would buy shitty medallions so we could roleplay with Chris in a private Discord server.|A post by Vaughn on [[Kiwi Farms]]}}

Larry Vaughn is known to be an unreliable narrator, so the truth of these claims are unknown.

==Watchmen Interactions==
{{quote|I can't take your word for anything cause you're a freakin pathological liar Caden!|[[MKRNightVee]], also a notorious liar<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

In [[October 2020]], Caden started talking in [[The Place]], which was the [[Watchmen]]'s [[Discord]] server at the time, giving an overview of business ideas<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref> and engaging in small talk.<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#More Food Discussion With Praetor]]</ref>

On 8 [[February 2021]], Chris wanted to borrow a [[taser]] from Praetor to try tazing his quartz crystals in an attempt to bring about the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Caden was initially willing to let Chris use it, and defended himself from criticism by the [[Watchmen]], stating that Chris was entirely responsible for the idea, and that he was not in any danger. The Watchmen started childishly insulting Caden, which he responded to sarcastically.

{{quote|Ooh [[Val]], no need to get nasty!
We might cry!|Caden, using the Praetor Discord account<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]</ref>}}

In the same day, he enter a [[Taser Discussion|voice call]] with multiple Watchmen members and Chris himself, where he says that Chris is an adult and capable of making his own choices. During this call, he also enables his delusions of the Dimensional Merge by saying that there truly is a possibility of the Taser creating a portal. Bizarrely, he states that he has ''tazed himself'' multiple times, in order to test the taser out. Near the end of the call, Watchmen member [[Val]] joked that Chris ought to taze himself on video, to which Chris replied that "in serious and in joke" that he was willing to do it. Caden objected, saying it is a bad idea.

After the call, [[Naught]] posted an out-of-context clip, mainly consisting of talk surrounding Val's comment, to the [[Kiwi Farms]] forum. Naught summarized the clip as, "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed", omitting that it had been Val who had made the comment about Chris tazing himself.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discussion clip]]</ref>

A few days after the call, Chris posted on [[The Place]] disapproving of the Watchmen's rudeness towards Caden. [[MKR]] and [[Kyle]] reacted by doubling down, with MKR claiming that Caden 'bullied' her, and stating that he was comparable to [[Jacob Sockness]] and [[Joshua Wise]].<ref>[[The_Place_chats_-_Watchmen-Praetor_confrontations#13_February_2021]]</ref>

{{quote|I was bullied by caden first then he gave the most laughably insincere apology possible|[[MKR]]}}

Also after the call, [[Naught]] and [[Larry Vaughn]] both teamed up to dox Caden on [[Kiwi Farms]]. Being doxxed did not deter Caden from interacting with Chris.

Eventually, [[The WCT]] became the leader of the [[Watchmen]]. He was far more accepting of [[Praetor]], calling them a 'necessary evil' and wanting to be friends with Caden to make sure he does nothing bad. Despite WCT trying hard, he was unable to get in contact with Caden<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)]]</ref>.

==Jail Involvement==

After the [[Incest Call|incest leaks]], [[The Suitress|most]] [[The WCT|cut]] [[Null|ties]] [[Isabella Janke|with]] Chris. However, Caden continued to interact with him through letters, and became one of the most active figures in the [[Jail Saga]]. After Chris was kicked out of [[14 Branchland Court]] for his [[Affair With Mother|sex with Barb]], Chris contacted Caden to try and get a hotel, though it's unknown how he responded <ref>[[WCT_DMs#Asking_about_Incest_Call_leak]]</ref>.

During his stay in jail, Chris started writing a 'Goddess Log', which is what he called his journal that he wrote his every thought in. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|Jail Call]] from [[November 2021]], Chris mentioned that Caden was going to scan this log and then publish it. It is unknown if this is still planned.

For the next half year, Chris remained relatively quiet about Caden, until [[June 2022]] when he suggested to [[Helena Fiorenza]] that she and Caden should collaborate<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 June 2022]]</ref>. Why exactly he wanted these two specifically to collaborate was never explained, but Chris kept mentioning it in future letters. Helena eventually tried to reach out to Caden, but got no response from him<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref>.

In a Jail Letter to [[Kenneth Engelhardt]], Chris mentioned Caden again.

{{quote|Caden (Praetor) is genuinely one who is able to speak on my behalf when appropriate, and is in friendship and business association with I in mutual agreements; Include Him on the Fan Project Website, period, please.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 14 July 2022]]</ref>}}

After Chris asked, Caden confirmed that [[Barb]] was still at [[14 Branchland Court]]. Chris then asked him to call the police on her, for her supposed crimes.

{{quote|So, giving him the list of her charable crimes, including pet negigance/mistreatment, suicide threats, emotional manipulation and abuse upon I, and ADA’s law of using someone else’s SSI, I have instructed Caden alone, to call the police on her.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]]</ref>}}

It's very unlikely that Caden went through with this, though Caden proceeded with 'persuading her and presenting her with the Truths of the Legality'. If this is true, this would make Caden one of the very few people to have contact with Barb during the Jail Saga.

The two decided on starting a $150,000 fundraiser to pay off Chris's mortgages and debts, and to put Barb in an Elderly Care Home, with the help of [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] and [[Helena Fiorenza]]<ref>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)]]</ref>. After Kenneth judged Caden for this, Chris berated him through a letter.

{{quote|He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)|Jail Letter - 22 July 2022]]</ref>}}

Chris's last mention of Caden as of now was in an [[August 2022]] [[Jail Letter - 2 August 2022|Jail Letter]], where he asks [[Kenneth]] to help relay the kickstarter page he started. Ultimately, the fundraiser led to [[Kenneth Engelhardt]], [[Helena Fiorenza]] and [[Eels and the Egg-man]] all cutting ties with Chris. The goal was, like expected, never reached.

The current status of Chris and Caden's relationship is unknown, as Chris stopped publicly communicating through letters in [[August 2022]]. However, due to Chris's return to the internet recently, it is not unlikely that Caden could play a major role in the new [[saga]], as him and Chris were last seen on good terms.

==Post-Jail Interactions==
On 26 October 2023, Chris received a call from Caden on [The_Return_of_Jesus_Christ_Chan_Sonichu_Prime|a livestream], confirming that they are in contact, and likely still doing business.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
File:Tinyhorse02.png|Look at that shit-eating grin.
File:Praetor3.jpg|Note Chris's bald spot.
File:Praetor Instagram tags copy-min.png|Caden with other Praetor members.
File:PraetorLLC.jpg|Another version without the Instagram tags.
File:Theunoriginals.jpg|Picture from his and his friends website.
</gallery></center>

==See Also==
*[[Praetor]]
*[[Taser Discussion]]
*[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations]]
*[[Jail Communications]]

{{References}}
{{Notes}}
{{PraetorSaga}}
{{JailSaga}}

October 2023 social media posts

2023-10-20T01:45:23Z

Jimmy747: /* Chris's thoughts on Israel and Ukraine */

This page is an archive of Chris's major social media posts during [[October 2023]].

==Second Coming==
16 October 2023

{{quotebox|Second Coming with Ultimate Miracle. 🌈💎. Chaos Control!

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==Setting the Record straight==
17 October 2023

{{quotebox|Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021 [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|youtu.be/yDR6e83zrWg?si=X8FndUXHL1X9L4bS]] via @[[YouTube]]}}

==Roman Colosseum==
18 October

''In response to a Twitter user asking why Chris chose to green screen himself into a Roman colosseum in [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|his latest video]].''

{{quotebox|It’s the Royal Albert Hall, for obvious reasons.

[[File:July25ConcertArtwork.jpg|250px]]}}

==Chris is still mad about MLP G5==
18 October

Equestria Daily (EquestriaDaily)

{{quoteboxgreen|The G5 comic Black, White, & Blue has officially released today! I love how many side series we are getting for the comics lately.

Go check it out: equestriadaily.com/2023/10/my-little-pony-black-white-blue.html}}

{{quotebox|[[My Little Pony Protests|NOBODY Cares for MLP G5; Resume Friendship is Magic Already, @Hasbro, Please!]] I Literally Foreknew and Foretold how Premature and Awful G5 was to be. #PsychicPowers #Avatar [[Messiah complex|#JesusChristIsRightHere]]

<center><gallery>
File:TSSSF MLPFim S 10 14.jpg
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{{quotebox|Still have not watched ANY of MLPG5 At All, and I Never Shall until AFTER [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic]], Season 14 Episode 26 is aired on tv, streaming services and all, @Hasbro}}

{{quotebox|Here, @Hasbro, I’ll make this EASY for you, so Heed My Input and do it: hire everyone of G4 cast and crew back, and with John DeLancy as Discord, start with Discord telling everyone G5 is undone and resume G4 from there. Definitely get Faust back on as well. [[Nightstar]] and I are more than happy to help, personally. 🌈💎}}

==Elon Musk==
18 October

{{quotebox|And on an unrelated note, Verification Process improvement aside, but the price is not needed for that, @elonmusk really has fucked Twitter up. Nobody, not even I, will ever refer to it as “X”; that is just as Stupid Y Stupid (tonto y tonto) as Team Rocket and Giovanni, period.}}

{{quotebox|Phew! It feels really good to finally get that off of my mind and back.}}

==Chris's thoughts on Israel and Ukraine==
18 October

Carrie Krueger (CarrieKrueger17)

{{quoteboxred|@CPU_CWCSonichu What’s your input on what’s going on in Israel?}}

{{quotebox|[[Chris and Religion|Demons and Devils]] [[Manchester_High_Leaks#Japan_War_Essay|are literally at work on both sides there]].}}

{{quotebox|Also, Putin shall die by his own sword, I heavily support and supported Ukraine 🇺🇦 in defenses amidst my work. And the Ukraine girl sitting by POTUS [[Lisa Simpson]] in the circle meditation drawing, in a Church in Israel with that church’s Israeli priest there leading the circle, was an escapee from that WWIII that Lisa adopted.}}

For unknown reasons, Chris reposted the above reply 2 more times.

==Christmas Play==
18 October

{{quotebox|Part One of the reading of Angelica Rosechu's 2005 Christmas Play is up.

[''[[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play, Part 1|links to video]]'']}}

{{Social media}}

October 2023 social media posts

2023-10-20T01:45:07Z

Jimmy747: /* Chris's thoughts on Israel and Ukraine */

This page is an archive of Chris's major social media posts during [[October 2023]].

==Second Coming==
16 October 2023

{{quotebox|Second Coming with Ultimate Miracle. 🌈💎. Chaos Control!

<center><gallery>
File:Twitter-16Oct2023-images1.jpg
File:Twitter-16Oct2023-images2.jpg
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</gallery></center>}}

==Setting the Record straight==
17 October 2023

{{quotebox|Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021 [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|youtu.be/yDR6e83zrWg?si=X8FndUXHL1X9L4bS]] via @[[YouTube]]}}

==Roman Colosseum==
18 October

''In response to a Twitter user asking why Chris chose to green screen himself into a Roman colosseum in [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021|his latest video]].''

{{quotebox|It’s the Royal Albert Hall, for obvious reasons.

[[File:July25ConcertArtwork.jpg|250px]]}}

==Chris is still mad about MLP G5==
18 October

Equestria Daily (EquestriaDaily)

{{quoteboxgreen|The G5 comic Black, White, & Blue has officially released today! I love how many side series we are getting for the comics lately.

Go check it out: equestriadaily.com/2023/10/my-little-pony-black-white-blue.html}}

{{quotebox|[[My Little Pony Protests|NOBODY Cares for MLP G5; Resume Friendship is Magic Already, @Hasbro, Please!]] I Literally Foreknew and Foretold how Premature and Awful G5 was to be. #PsychicPowers #Avatar [[Messiah complex|#JesusChristIsRightHere]]

<center><gallery>
File:TSSSF MLPFim S 10 14.jpg
File:Nightstarprotestcard.jpg
File:Executiveprotestcard.jpg
File:Hasbroprotestcard.jpg
</gallery></center>}}

{{quotebox|Still have not watched ANY of MLPG5 At All, and I Never Shall until AFTER [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic]], Season 14 Episode 26 is aired on tv, streaming services and all, @Hasbro}}

{{quotebox|Here, @Hasbro, I’ll make this EASY for you, so Heed My Input and do it: hire everyone of G4 cast and crew back, and with John DeLancy as Discord, start with Discord telling everyone G5 is undone and resume G4 from there. Definitely get Faust back on as well. [[Nightstar]] and I are more than happy to help, personally. 🌈💎}}

==Elon Musk==
18 October

{{quotebox|And on an unrelated note, Verification Process improvement aside, but the price is not needed for that, @elonmusk really has fucked Twitter up. Nobody, not even I, will ever refer to it as “X”; that is just as Stupid Y Stupid (tonto y tonto) as Team Rocket and Giovanni, period.}}

{{quotebox|Phew! It feels really good to finally get that off of my mind and back.}}

==Chris's thoughts on Israel and Ukraine==
18 October

Carrie Krueger (CarrieKrueger17)

{{quoteboxred|@CPU_CWCSonichu What’s your input on what’s going on in Israel?}}

{{quotebox|[[Chris and Religion|Demons and Devils]] [[https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Manchester_High_Leaks#Japan_War_Essay|are literally at work on both sides there]].}}

{{quotebox|Also, Putin shall die by his own sword, I heavily support and supported Ukraine 🇺🇦 in defenses amidst my work. And the Ukraine girl sitting by POTUS [[Lisa Simpson]] in the circle meditation drawing, in a Church in Israel with that church’s Israeli priest there leading the circle, was an escapee from that WWIII that Lisa adopted.}}

For unknown reasons, Chris reposted the above reply 2 more times.

==Christmas Play==
18 October

{{quotebox|Part One of the reading of Angelica Rosechu's 2005 Christmas Play is up.

[''[[Angelica Rosechu's Christmas Play, Part 1|links to video]]'']}}

{{Social media}}

Affair with Mother

2023-08-29T16:07:14Z

Jimmy747: /* Background and foreshadowing */

:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|Chris had a felony charge of incest, not rape. This page discusses whether the affair was consensual or not, but ultimately can not confirm or deny it. No matter what you believe, please ''avoid calling Chris a rapist on this wiki'' unless he is officially charged or confirmed to have raped Barb.}}

{{quote|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.<ref name=dream>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence in]] earlier in the month, may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].

Chris was kept in jail or in a mental hospital until [[April 2023]], at which point he was released. His incest charge was outright dropped in [[August 2023]], and he did not have to register as a sex offender. He has [[Affair with Mother#Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration|commented on the charge against him]] numerous times since his arrest.

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]], [[Teen Troon Squad chats]]}}

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Note the talk of "soul bonding" in the right-hand corner.]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood mixed with the emotionally abusive control tactics she implemented against both him and Bob. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. In a [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|2010 voice chat]] between various [[PVCC]] forum members, [[Kim Wilson]] talked about a discussion where Chris revealed he was spooning his mother on a regular basis. She also revealed that Chris told her that he'd once had a [[Dreams|wet dream]] about Barb as an Egyptian belly dancer. When asked by Emily if he'd repopulate the planet if he and his mother were the only two people left in existence, Chris went silent and then denied any desire to have sex with his mother.

[[File:CWCTablet25Jul2021.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he bragged about incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news, and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother, and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

On 5 [[July 2021]], [[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Null)#Chris's_"girlfriend"|Chris revealed that he was having sex with]] [[Barbara_Chandler#Early_life|an older woman with a background in accounting, and whom he had known for a long time]] to [[Null]] in confidence. Null, having no idea [[Barbara_Chandler|who Chris was talking about]], praised Chris for [[Honest_Content|managing to keep something secret for once,]] and encouraged Chris to keep their relationship secret to protect her identity.

[[July 2021 social media posts#Beauty artwork|Chris released a piece of artwork on his Twitter feed]] on 28 [[July 2021]], showing "soul-bonding" between an elderly Libra woman (which Barb is) and a younger woman that suspiciously looks like [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris's fictionalized counterpart]], clandestinely hinting at the horrifying affair that was just days from being revealed (the only major inconsistency is that Chris is a Pisces and appears elsewhere in the picture with the correct sign). [[The Suitress]] had also posted a screen cap of a video on Reddit, which Chris claimed that he had watched days prior to his affair being revealed.

Chris had stated [[Lonely feelings|in a conversation]] he had with [[Watchmen]] members that he had feelings of loneliness, and had wanted to get action on with a real, physical woman. Unfortunately for everyone, Chris's desires would lead him to a very dark place.

== The affair ==

On 27 June 2021, Chris began to engage in incest with his mother.<ref name=call/><ref name=wct>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move."<ref name=call/>

When pressed for details on the dirty deed, Chris has shown an unsurprising lack of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for his actions, stating that his actions were ordained by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus Himself]]. If anything, he was more upset that [[Bella]], [[Null]], [[Dillin]], and other people ratted him out [[Honest Content|after he provided a confession to a felony]].<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris also claimed in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil, and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her, it apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. No information about if she returned the favor. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STI's afterwards anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts. What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

===Negligee===
{{Main|Negligee}}
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|100px|left|A photo of Chris wearing the negligee in front of a fan.]]
Chris stated that he purchased a negligee and claimed that Barb approved of the idea.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> This was eventually confirmed on 3 March 2022, when a Reddit fan posted photos of themselves with Chris in the negligee.

{{clear}}

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris seems to be under the impression that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or being more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

==Awareness of wrongdoing==
Chris was aware of the illegal nature of incest. In August 2016, he read a news article on the topic of a mother and son charged with incest and commented over Facebook on it, defending the two and saying they should not be sent to jail.<ref name=dream></ref>

Five years later, in the midst of his own affair with his mother, Chris still demonstrated awareness that the action was illegal. While he desired to discuss the affair with people, he first concocted a cover story in which he used misleading euphemisms such as "lady friend" to describe his sexual partner and claimed that the supposed lady friend and Barb had met each other<ref name=spill>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris describes his lady friend]]</ref> and he insisted on keeping the identity of the lady friend secret,<ref name=soulbonding></ref><ref name=null>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref><ref name=wct></ref> though he dropped hints such as age<ref name=soulbonding></ref> and employment history.<ref name=null></ref>

After a month of using his cover story, Chris decided to push further and tell someone that his mother was the sexual partner. He selected [[Bella]]. Before telling her, Chris first spent time trying to manipulate her into keeping silent on what he would say by use of a guilt trip.

{{quote|And I ask you Not to Overthink or ask for further details in pressing on. That is not a good thing to do.|Chris to Bella, 17 July 2021<ref name=soulbonding></ref>}}

Over a week later, Chris, ready to divulge his secret, first claimed to Bella that he was uncertain of telling her as he was concerned about the government hacking into the conversation, which backfired on Chris as this tipped off Bella into suspecting that he was about to discuss an illegal act.<ref>[[Bella and Suitress chats#Bella suspects incest]]</ref>

{{quote|I realize I am remaining and sounding distant on the questioning, and it will become more clear and obvious when I tell you, in-person, who she is.

I actually wish I could tell you over text or voice call, but the government and anyone with the tech can easily hack into those methods|Chris, prior to the [[Incest Call]].<ref name=spill></ref>}}

Within the same conversation, Chris recommended using the encrypted text/video call app Signal (having used it to communicate with [[Null]]), which Bella agreed to download.<ref name=spill></ref>

After Chris's conversations about committing incest were publicly leaked, [[The WCT]] sent Chris messages over [[Discord]] asking him what had happened. Chris gave an explanation, then began deleting his messages. Chris requested that The WCT delete his side of the conversation as well, which WCT obliged (though had taken screenshots in real time to discuss with [[The Knights of CWC]]).<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref>

==Leaks==
{{main|Incest Call|Incest Texts}}
In the leaks, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.

{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to [[Dillin Thomas]].<ref name="admission">[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris confesses to Dillin Thomas]]</ref>

Prior to the allegations being revealed to the public, Chris informed [[Bella]], [[Null]], and [[The WCT]] about the fact that he found a [[boyfriend-free girl]], although he wanted her identity to remain secret. He offered multiple hints about the identity of his new [[sweetheart]], but told Null that he wanted him to figure out who it was. Null was initially skeptical of the incest claims, since the [[Idea Guys]] previously coerced him into recording a (then untrue) statement that he had raped Barb, and believed that this could be another instance of similar manipulation. Null hypothesized that Chris was attempting to protect the identity of his new girlfriend by making up an elaborate lie, but eventually came to realize that Chris had been having frequent sex with Barb upon reviewing Chris's hints.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Chris's "girlfriend"]]</ref>

After this information eventually came to light, Chris indicated that it was "drama" and that he only intended to share the information to [[Messiah complex|test his followers]], who he trusted not to share the information with the public at large despite incest being illegal. Chris later compared Null to {{w|Judas Iscariot}} for "betraying" him by trusting him with such [[Honest Content]]. [[Chris and remorse|Chris being Chris]], he seems to be more upset over the fact that [[Honest Content|trusting people not to leak evidence of a criminal act]] led to [[Jail Saga|serious, life-changing consequences for him]] than the idea that he may have caused harm to Barb, and as multiple [[jail letters]] show, he does not have guilt over the fact that he did something illegal (not to mention he clearly hasn't learned from ''years'' of experience that [[Honest Content|constantly sharing personal information at the drop of a hat]], be it embarrassing or '''incriminating''' in this case, invariably comes back to bite him in the rear later on).

== Was it consensual? ==

{{Protip| The following information should not be taken as definite proof that Chris raped Barb or not; this is simply a list of evidence that Chris has provided himself, which due to Chris's habit of lying for the pettiest of reasons, can be seen as unreliable by some. Due to the sensitive nature of this topic, please avoid saying for sure if Chris did or did not rape Barb.}}

On the CWCki, there are two main camps that people fall into when discussing this topic:
There are people who believe the affair to be abusive or even flat-out rape, while there are other people who believe the affair was consensual between the two.

The following list contains many common points of argument for both sides but also a counterargument for each and every one.

The evidence for the affair being nonconsensual are as follows:

* Barb has been speculated to be suffering from dementia or some other form of mental decline; there are too many videos of her displaying symptoms to list, but this could be her intentionally faking it for sympathy donations. Also, some have pointed out that Barb was quite cognizant in other recent videos, adding weight to the theory that her behavior in the begging videos could have been exaggerated.
* Chris mentioned during [[Incest Texts]] that Barb told him to stop during his attempts to finger her; however, this would have been Chris's first time fingering a woman ([[Mia Hamm]] didn't allow him to do so during their times together) and Chris mentioned this act hurt Barb at first; meaning Barb could have been stopping him from his attempts due to the pain but otherwise consented to be fingered.
* Chris, during the [[Incest Call]], mentions that Barb seemed partially confused at first; However, Chris did say she "came around," so it's possible he was referring to his advances towards her, and she didn't initially understand/ believe what Chris was asking for.
* Chris mentioned in [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)]] that Barb was "Zombie-like" and not even aware of her surroundings even before the affair began; while damning (if true), it's worth mentioning that Chris during the letter is begging Kenneth for assistance in moving Barb out of the house, arguing that Barb simply cannot take care of herself. Chris, being Chris, could simply not know the implications of what he's actually saying, and it's quite possible that Chris is desperately lying since Kenneth disapproved of the idea unless there was no other option for Barb.

The evidence for the affair being consensual are as follows:

* Chris and Barbara's relationship is infamously creepy and way too close for comfort; this is the main source of people believing the affair was consensual and for good reason. Barb would often yell at Chris if he didn't share a bed with her, and Chris has admitted numerous times that he spoons with her (after Bob's death). They were also often seen talking to each other and even holding each other as if they were husband and wife for a long time before the affair began. Barb is infamous for being horribly [[Chris and manipulation|manipulative]] for her own personal gain, and she does not see any problem with coddling and emotionally blackmailing Chris in order to go along with what she wants to do (usually money or food-related stuff); with this in mind, while their relationship is definitely unhealthy for a mother and son to have, it does not prove that Barb was interested in an incestuous affair with Chris.
* Chris claimed to Null during his temporary homelessness in [[Null DMs|a direct message]] that the affair was definitely consensual; however, [[Honest Content|even somebody like Chris]] would probably hesitate to admit raping their own mother, especially to their main benefactor at the time.
* Chris boasted during the [[Incest Call]] that Barb was "having a good time" and even claimed that he let her make the first move; even if this is true, it does not rule out that Chris hadn't coerced or otherwise manipulated her into having sex with him since he did mention in the same call that she was "partially confused at first." Chris's idea of approaching a love interest with "care and caution" '''does not''' translate to consent or even consideration for somebody else's feelings; his idea of nervous behavior around [[Kacey]], for example, included touching her multiple times without her consent and his interactions with [[Megan]] which he describes as "friendly" also included a lot of unwanted attempts to hug and kiss her.
* In [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]], Chris claimed that after he lost his virginity to Mia Hamm and told his mom about it, Barb stated that she would have had sex with him herself; while this does sound like Barb offering herself to Chris, there is a massive possibility that Barb was simply saying he could [[Attraction Sign|pull women without paying them]]. Though definitely creepy, it does not mean she actually wanted sex with him and even if she did, the quote came from a decade beforehand so this would not count as consent.

In the end, we will perhaps never honestly know; Barb is apparently not willing to comment or give any further details (and thankfully, nobody has pressed her on such), and Chris is currently in denial that the affair ever took place. If Chris is formally charged and sentenced with felony incest (or perhaps rape), it could be a case of Chris simply piling on tons of poorly worded evidence against himself [[Honest Content|(as he's done throughout most of his life)]]; if Chris is found innocent or just given the sentence for misdemeanor incest, it could be seen as yet another example of the criminal justice system [[Honor roll|going easy]] on [[Autism|somebody with special needs]], and Chris gets away with yet another crime [[Chris and the law|(something that he has also done throughout most of his life)]] as a result.

Ironically, despite this being one of the most critical moments in Chris's life, [[Geno Samuel|a life that has been documented extensively down to the finest detail]], we continue to and will likely never know the essential details of it.

==Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration==
During the incarceration that followed Chris's incest with his mother, he had communicated numerous times with members of the public via letters and telephone calls. Some of those letters (and one recorded phone call which has been publicly shared) contain commentary by Chris regarding the charges for which he was in jail. The first publicly available letter in which Chris touches on the subject of the alleged incest was written on [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|19 September 2021]]. In it, Chris appears to strongly imply that he indeed had sex with Barbara. Chris's comments on the affair are tied with his elaboration of his previously expressed delusions of Godhood. He reveals to have realized himself to be the present day reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The supreme Goddess Emanuelle had ordered him to to purify Barbara of her sins and improve her abilities. In his description of how this was done, Chris writes that he and his mother "mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked." No explicit details are provided, but the rest of the letter strongly implies that sexual acts were included in Chris's "healing" of Barbara. Chris goes on to write that the healing he performed on his mother was similarly done by him on other individuals during his previous life as Jesus Christ, though the details of said healings were omitted from the the Bible. Chris then goes on to inform the letter's recipient that "We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry" [sic]; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades?" While the word "adultery" is typically used to refer to marital infidelity, it appears that in this letter it is intended to mean all acts that go against traditional sexual morality (i.e., what Christians have usually called "fornication"). By grouping the "healing" of Barbara in the same category as intimate relations between members of the same sex, Chris strongly implies that the "healing" of Barbara likewise included romantic and sexual acts. Chris's defense of the "healing" on the counts that all those who were involved in it were both willing and above the legal age of consent further enhances the impression that it was at least partially sexual in nature.

While the 19 September letter was just a few baby steps away from being an explicit admission of incest, it did not take long for Chris to become more coy as to whether or not incest between himself and Barb had occurred. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|1 November 2021 telephone call]], Chris fails to either explicitly deny or acknowledge that he and Barb had sex. The same ambiguousness regarding the truthfulness of the charges against him can be seen in a letter written on [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|16 November 2021]].

At some point Chris changed his tune and began to outright deny that there was ever any sexual intimacy between him and his mother. As far as public evidence goes, Chris first explicitly denied the charges against him in the [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022 jail letter]]. In the same letter, Chris alleges that in [[May 2012]] Barbara made sexual advances towards him after he revealed to her that he had paid a prostitute a month beforehand. He goes on to write that after the death of Bob Barb came to see Chris as a husband-like figure. Further denials that Chris ever had sexual relations with Barb appear in jail letters written on [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|1 June]] and [[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022|4 June 2022]]. Chris does acknowledge that prior to his arrest he told others that he had sex with Barb, but by now he claims that those admissions were false. As he wrote in the 4 June 2022 letter: "I have never had sex with Barbara; that was purely Big Talk to Divinely Test everyone." Already in the letters from 19 September 2021 and 16 November 2021 Chris claimed that his pre-arrest admissions were made in order to test certain individuals, but (at least far public evidence goes) only from May 2022 Chris began to claim that these admissions were false.

==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an Emergency Protective Order, then arrested the next day. In the wake of his charges, Chris was [[ban]]ned from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale.

Since then, he was held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail before getting transferred to [[Western State Hospital]], awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to CVRJ. In [[March 2023]], Chris was released from jail.

===Chris and Barbara's relationship===
{{Needs Updating|Citations}}
Chris and Barbara's relationship deteriorated during Chris's stay in jail. In a jail letter, Chris mentioned that Barb had ceased communicating with him.{{cite}}. During summer 2022, Chris began to speak ill of Barb in his letters, insulting and making spurious claims about her.{{cite}} While still in jail, Chris began planning for his housing post-release. In light of a restraining order being placed on Chris preventing him from contact with Barb{{cite}}, Chris believed he deserved to live in [[14 Branchland Court]] over Barb, and requested his [[enablers]] assist him with a [[Kickstarter]] fundraiser to bribe Barb into moving into senior housing, claiming that [[Caden]] was helping with this scheme, and that it was his initial idea.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Sonichu Says NO to Barbussy Mitai [emptyhero]
|ytid = tsYBphxweBY
|stardate = 22 Nov 2022
|maker = emptyhero
|info = BLAST ALL YOUR BEANS IN MY BARBUSSY PLEASE
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Poor Sonichu...
|ytid = WIZfv3scrx4
|stardate = 13 Feb 2022
|maker = Emperor Techno
|info = Warning: kinda spooky
}}

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris-Chan and his mom every 3rd night since June 27
|ytid = mjARTrVL_0w
|stardate = 10 Aug 2021
|maker = American Goblin
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris Chan be like..
|ytid = Srz73CkOgwQ
|stardate = 2 Aug 2021
|maker = Through Time and Space
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris-Chan and Barb sing “Promiscuous”
|ytid = L7tTC6_Z5HE
|stardate = 2 Aug 2021
|maker = ZeldaFanMan
}}

==See also==
{{FanArt}}
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Jail Saga]]
*[[Soul Bonding]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac‎]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}
{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

[[Category:Articles with Jail Saga speculation]]

Gal pal

2023-08-25T18:14:13Z

Jimmy747: /* The illusion shattered */

{{quote|My circle of gal-pals was the best asset and blessing anyone could ever ask for.|Chris, [[Autism Tutorial Part 3]]}}

[[Image:0487-CWC18th18.jpg|thumb|right|200 px|Chris's gal pals at his [[My big 18th party (story)|18th birthday party]]. From left to right: mystery girl, [[Kellie Andes]], Friend Brought Along, Miranda Joyce Mitchell, Sarah Bevel, [[Tiffany Gowen]].]]

A '''gal pal''' or '''gal-pal''' is a [[CWC-ism]] for a female friend. Chris believed he had a lot of these while growing up, but in reality they were little more than acquaintances who let the autistic kid sit at their lunch table.

Chris was hesitant about making friends with other males due to bad experiences with [[JERKS|jerks]]. He said, "in my autism test it was found that I get along better with women, well over men."<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 5]]</ref>

This unbalanced approach to [[socialization]] perhaps contributed to his warped views on [[gender]] and him adopting rather [[tomgirl|effeminate]] traits and mannerisms (such as assuming the cowgirl sexual position in the [[sex tape]], or having a collection of [[My Little Pony]] action figures), unaware that what might be acceptable for girls might be considered outwardly taboo for guys. Some have suggested that he clung onto female acquaintances as a kind of surrogate mother-role to protect him from bullies, which matches up to his desire to be babied by a wife while he plays video games as a "stay-at-home dad"; because it's easier to count on others to look after him than to take up that responsibility.

Long after high school ended, he developed feelings of [[nostalgia]] over it and the gal pal acquaintances, to the point where [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|he recreated a high school and several gal pals out of Legos]].

==From school years==
Chris had several gal pals in his childhood. One, Natasha Turner, was essentially a babysitter paid by Bob to walk Chris to the bus stop. Chris read too much into the acquaintanceship, not realizing at the time that the money Bob handed him to give her was for payment, and believed she was a legitimate friend.

In [[Manchester High School]], Chris again believed he had many gal pals. However, their "friendships" with him had all been arranged by [[Bob]],<ref name=negotiation>[[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> in a misguided attempt to help Chris socialize.

===Sarah Hammer===
{{main|Sarah Nicole Hammer}}

===Tiffany Robinson===
'''Tiffany Robinson''' is a former gal pal of Chris's from the days he lived in [[Richmond]] and was Chris's first crush. In Chris's words, "we would hang out now and then during school hours and play. Then in the 4th Grade, she dumped me for some other boy. I do not know much of what she has been up to these days".<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#The Women in my Life]]</ref> In 2021, Chris said that she lived "somewhere beyond Standardsville" [sic] and that he had a crush on her.<ref>[[June 2021 social media posts]]</ref> Her current whereabouts, or if she is aware of Chris anymore, are unknown.

In 2008, early troll [[lordsillynipples]] impersonated Tiffany in order to catfish Chris into sending her a copy of his then-unreleased [[DVD]].

===Natasha Turner===
'''Natasha Turner''' is a former gal pal Chris met at [[Providence Middle School]]. They were next-door neighbors for a while, often hanging out at the bus stop near their homes. She was slightly older than him and a "good girl". For a while he had a crush on her until he saw her [[Tobacky|smoking]]: "That was It for me right there".<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#The Women in my Life]]</ref><ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Messages]]</ref>

In 2013, when his illusions over his high school gal-pals was finally shattered, it compelled Chris to reevaluate all his past friendships, and at some point, he was suddenly struck by the revelation that Natasha, too, had been "Hired Help". He remembered that his [[Bob Chandler|father]] had given him money to give to Natasha "as payment for her Friendship and Attention". He figured she had been a sort of babysitter whose task was to "protect me to and back from the bus stop". This recollection was a "major shock" to Chris. "I laid in bed and slept with the shock. Stuck in my [[dreams]]; reluctant to really open my eyes to awake". It reinforced his new suspicion that "my friendships might have been a lie".<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#The Women in my Life]]</ref><ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Messages]]</ref>

===Kellie Andes===
{{main|Kellie Lyn Andes}}
Kellie Lyn Andes is a former high school classmate of Chris and one of his crushes. She was one of the girls who attended his 18th birthday. Their relationship meant a lot to Chris, as he kept in contact with her after high school, giving her a [[Christian's Favorite Hits!|mixtape]]. He called her weekly for around a year before giving up (the reasoning behind which is inconsistent).

Kellie severed all ties once she found out about what Chris had been up to post-education, blocking him on Facebook after she shared a link to [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]].

===Tiffany Gowen===
{{main|Tiffany Nicole Gowen}}
Tiffany Gowen is a former high school classmate of Chris. She acted as a compassionate friend, consoling him after his graduation meltdown <ref>[[:File:0568-GraduationNote3.jpg|DVD, graduation note 3]]</ref> and bravely danced with Chris during Senior Prom after finding out he took his mother to prom.<ref>name="dvd5"</ref>

A decade after high school, Chris was determined to reunite with Tiffany.<ref>[[CWCki Forums#Re: Tiffany_Gowen]]</ref> His search ended in 2013 when he received emails supposedly from Tiffany (most likely created by trolls) telling Chris that she was purposely evading him.

===Sarah Anne Bevel===
[[File:Sarah and Tiff.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's photo of [[Tiffany Gowen]] and Sarah Bevel.]]
'''Sarah Anne Bevel''' is Chris's former classmate at [[Manchester High School|Manchester High]]. She and [[Kellie Andes]] were Chris's lab partners in chemistry class, sat with him at lunch, and attended his 18th birthday party. She and her boyfriend were the only couple Chris was aware of during high school. "It was fun to just to watch them flirt with each other; I've could've learned from that, but my Autism and normal social phobias held me back then".<ref>[[DVD Slideshow Transcripts#CWC Note 5]]</ref> He was interested in the fact that she broke up with the "Lucky Dude" sometime later.

In September 2013, as Chris was trying to recontact his high school gal-pals for the sake of the 15th annual reunion, he was baffled that Sarah claimed to no longer know him, despite having been one of his "Closest Friends".<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Baffled]]</ref> In October, trolls hijacked Sarah Bevel's identity and used her to inform Chris that his gal-pals had only acted like Chris's friends because "we felt sorry for him". This and further correspondence with "Sarah" caused him to turn against her. Having exposed Chris to uncomfortable truths, she moved onto his enemies list. In November he wrote a [[PAIN Enduring since October 29, 2013|poem]] expressing his deep emotional pain "caused by the hurtfullest truth of close High School Gal Pal ("Hired Help"), Sarah Bevel. Total Adult, Condensating B---h". He even "remembered" that Sarah had questioned his heterosexuality back in high school.<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails#Dead end of a life]]</ref>

It appears that the real Sarah has discovered Chris's antics since high school, and is not impressed. On 19 December 2013, [[Kellie Andes]] shared a link on her [[Facebook]] for Chris's [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]] video. Among those who commented on the link was Sarah, with the remark, "Ladies, look what we're missing. :P"<ref>http://kiwifarms.net/threads/gal-pal-facebook-update-12-19-13.2726/ (archive pending)</ref> Sarah also apparently commented on a screenshot of Chris's [[Craigslist#Used Porn|Craigslist ad for used porn]], posted by Molly Quarles, with the comment "Well that explains a few things....."<ref name="Used porn comments">http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y505/bgheff/138736550810_zpsc03df10f.png</ref> And on 27 December, Sarah posted the infamous picture of Chris in his mother's underwear with the comment, "Not only does Christian like to borrow mommy's undies, but he apparently 'spoons' with her as well. Just when you think you've heard it all".<ref>[[December 2013 Facebook Posts#Mommy's Undies]]</ref>

===Molly Quarles===
'''Molly Quarles''' is a former high school classmate of Chris. She was a cheerleader during Chris's Freshman Year. She shared a few classes with Chris. He remembered her as "a happy, giggly kind-of gal, and she was fun to be around". Chris recalled being paired up in a "dating match-up thing" held for Valentine's Day at Manchester High. According to Chris, it was "the ONLY match-up I felt was a good match-up at all back then".<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]</ref> In October 2013, after the "Hired Help" news broke, Chris frantically sent a Facebook message to ask if she was a false friend as well (and was reported by a Facebook user in the process).<ref>[[October 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

It appears that, like [[Kellie Andes]] and Sarah Bevel, Molly has also discovered Chris's antics since high school. In December 2013, Molly found Chris's [[Craigslist#Used Porn|Craigslist ad for used porn]] and posted a screenshot to her [[Facebook]] account with the comment, "Eeeeeew! I didn't need that mental picture. What a creeper! :P"<ref name="Used porn comments" /> Despite her disgust, she remained Chris's Facebook friend, which for Chris is the equivalent of the real thing.<ref>[[Catherine E-mails#Ex-gal pals]]</ref>

[[File:Miranda photo.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's grainy photo of Miranda.]]
===Miranda Joyce Mitchell===
'''Miranda''' (or "Maranda") '''Joyce Mitchell''' is a former classmate of Chris. He described her as "a pretty girl, and... a big brain of my Circle of Friends".<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]</ref> Chris met her during his junior year in Computer Graphics class where they were partners and were required to design company logos for each other. Miranda thereby helped our hero out in his early website days with a redesign of the [[CWC's Pokésite 2|CWC's PokéSite 2!]] logo. This made Miranda the very first of his gal-pals to be exposed to the glory of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]].<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 10]]</ref> She attended his 18th birthday party, bringing as a gift "a planer [sic] with stickers".<ref>[[My big 18th party]]</ref>

Since then, Chris has been unable to locate Miranda on Facebook or anywhere else, no doubt to her great relief.

==The illusion shattered==
On 30 October 2013, Chris posted on Facebook about a recent discovery that all of his cherished gal-pals from [[Manchester High School]] had only put up with him out of pity for him.<ref>[[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking]]</ref>

{{quote
|I let Christian hang out with us mainly because we felt sorry for him. He sort of latched onto us, like he expected us to protect him. He was like a lost little boy. [[Affair with Mother|Sometimes I think he saw us as sort of mother figures, which seems a little creepy now]], but Christian seemed harmless enough back then, and we didn't mind him hanging out with us. As far as socializing goes, we didn't hang with him outside of school, except for the time we went to his 18th birthday party.
|[[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking|An e-mail from one of Chris's "friends"]]
}}

At the end of October, Chris, having just discovered the truth, demanded an apology for their kindness.

He asked his [[mother]] whether or not his friends had been real, and she informed him that in fact they had been arranged by his [[father]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/post-2046965(archive pending)</ref>

In December, his high-school gal-pals became aware of [[Media:Cwcbraorig.JPG|the picture of him wearing his mother's underwear]], [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|the Mount and Do Me oral sex video]], and a [[Craigslist#Used_Porn|recent Craigslist ad]] where he put several dozen pornographic DVDs up for sale and posted negative comments about them on Facebook.

On 5 November 2014, it was revealed on a [[CWCki Forums]] thread that the "betrayal" was fabricated by trolls, to get Chris to leave the real gal-pals alone.<ref>http://kiwifarms.net/threads/x-post-closure-of-the-cwcki-forums-private-discussion-board.5783/([https://archive.ph/mb3lX archive])</ref>

Years later, in February 2017, Chris reminisced about his [[high school]] days. In his rose-tinted view of events that had happened nearly 20 years prior, he recalled that he had friends who treated him well – conveniently forgetting that they did so out of pity after Bob and the principal had asked them.<ref name=negotiation></ref>

He then named several of those people and urged them to either apologize or befriend him again.

{{quote|#JoshuaMartinez, #TiffanyGowen, #SarahBevelIngram, #KellieAndes

The ONLY Way I will ever let their more recent deeds be forgiven is if they all genuinely want to be friends me again; at the least to take a few minutes out of their lives to apologize.<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts##productofpublicschool]]</ref>}}

==Post-high school gal pals==
Gal pals from after Chris graduated high school.

* [[Anna McLerran]]
* [[Megan Schroeder]]
* [[The Wallflower]]
* [[Pokémon League friends]]

==Troll gal pals==
Fake personas created by trolls to [[Manipulation|manipulate]] Chris. Most were played by bona fide women, but Vivian Gee was a creation of [[Clyde Cash]].

* [[Sarah Jackson]]
* [[PandaHalo|Sarah Cassandra McKenzie]]
* [[Ivy|Ivy O'Neil]]
* [[Vivian Gee]]
* [[Kacey|Kacey Devoria]]
* [[Jackie|Jacklyn Romy]]
* [[Kim Wilson]]/[[Emily|Emily Julia Schifflet]] (different identities played by [[LoveYouLongTime]])
* [[Catherine|Catherine Sorrentino]]

==Fan gal pals==
Gal pals who befriended Chris as a result of his internet infamy. Some of these women are trolls as well, although (unlike the troll gal pals above) they interacted with Chris under their real names.

* [[Midnight Moonflower|Claire Garcia]] (alias Midnight Moonflower)
* [[Clare Porter]]
* [[Helena Fiorenza]]
* The [[Teen Troon Squad]]
* Two of the [[Praetors]]
* [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]
* [[The Suitress]]

==In the comic==

* [[Megan Schroeder]] - as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5]] and [[Sonichu 6|6]], as herself in [[Sonichu 7]]
* [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] - as herself in [[Sonichu 0]] and [[Sonichu 5|5]], as the yellow Saramah [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]] in some issues
* [[Kellie Andes]] - briefly in [[Sonichu 7]]
* [[Ivy|Ivy O'Neil]] - in Sonichu Specials [[Sonichu Special 1|1]], [[Wedding Comic|2]], and [[Giant Penis Comic|3]]
* [[Kacey|Kacey Devoria]] - in [[Sonichu Special 4]] before [[Barb]] asked Chris to stop portraying gal-pals in specials
* [[Jackie|Jacklyn Romy]] - briefly as the vile Vulva Pie in [[Sonichu 12]]

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:0309-CWCNote5.jpg|Gal Pals 1
Image:0310-CWCNote6.jpg|Gal Pals 2
Image:0311-CWCNote7.jpg|Gal Pals 3
File:0484-CWC18th15.jpg|From left to right: unnamed friend, Miranda Joyce Mitchell (in black), Sarah Anne Bevel (in green), and [[Tiffany Gowen]].
File:Sarah Bevel.jpg|[[LEGO]] Sarah Bevel, made shortly before her betrayal.
File:Molly Quarles.jpg|LEGO Molly Quarles.
File:Maranda Mitchell.jpg|LEGO "Maranda" Mitchell.
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|The [[ModNation Racers]] version: "cute, sassy, serious".
</gallery></center>

==See also==
* [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]]
* [[Laura Beth Dorazio]]

==References==
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Mailbag/References

2023-08-24T18:11:13Z

Jimmy747: /* The list */

The [[Trolls|fans]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]] love to mail Chris using the names of famous individuals, both real and fictional. Chris only seems to realize that he's heard of these people before if they repeatedly mention who they are and what they've done in the body of their letter. For example, Chris noticed and called out Eddie Berganza and Stephen King because they repeatedly mentioned who they were and specifically what they did in their lives. Likewise, Chris failed to notice people like Trent Reznor and Leonardo Da Vinci because the letters did not repeatedly reinforce that they were written by someone important. A more generous interpretation would be that he assumed the names to be internet pen names and left it at that, but it's more likely he didn't notice at all.

==The list==
'''[[Mailbag 1]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Leonardo da Vinci|Leonardo DaVinci]]: Painter, inventor, super genius.

'''[[Mailbag 2]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Brigitte Bardot|Brigitte Bardot]]: A French woman identifying as "Emmanuelle Bardot" sends Chris an image of herself and an edited version of said image in which she is made to look like [[Rosechu]]. The actual photo is of French actress/model Brigitte Bardot and was taken during the filming of ''[[wikipedia:Viva Maria!|Viva Maria!]]'' [http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Actress-Brigitte-Bardot-on-Location-During-Filming-of-Movie-Viva-Maria-Posters_i3787502_.htm]
*[[Wikipedia:Family Matters|Laura Winslow]]: The daughter from the TV series ''Family Matters''.
*[[Wikipedia:Rocky IV|Ivan Drago]]: Rocky's opponent from ''Rocky IV''.

'''[[Mailbag 3]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Manuel Noriega|Manuel Noriega]]: Deposed dictatorial leader of Panama.
*While no names are mentioned, one letter speaks of a boy who dropped out of school at 16, was a terrible painter, and had started making political moves with an extreme ideology, essentially a quick summary of [[Wikipedia:Adolf Hitler|Adolf Hitler's]] early years.
*A homosexual man tells Chris he's considering undergoing a sex change operation and assuming the name [[Wikipedia:Fergie_(singer)|Stacy Ann Ferguson]] afterwards.
*[[Wikipedia:George Armstrong Custer|George Custer]]: American Army Officer who battled Native Americans in the wild west. Also raided [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] during the Civil War at the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Rio Hill|Battle of Rio Hill]].

'''[[Mailbag 4]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Todd Phillips|Todd Phillips]]: Filmmaker.
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Rocky IV|Ivan Drago]].
*[[Wikipedia:Lucifer|Samael Morningstar]]: The devil.
*[[Wikipedia:Joseph Stalin|Joseph Stalin]]: Former dictatorial ruler of the Soviet Union.
*[[Wikipedia:Gabe Newell|Gabe Newell]]: Co-founder of game development company Valve.

'''[[Mailbag 5]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:List of Kanto Gym Leaders#Lt. Surge|Lieutenant Surge]]: One of the [[Pokémon]] Gym Leaders.
*[[Wikipedia:General_Von_Klinkerhoffen|Erich Von Klinkerhoffen]]: Nazi from the sitcom ''Allo 'Allo!''

'''[[Mailbag 6]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Levi_Johnston|Levi Johnston]]: The guy who knocked up Sarah Palin's daughter.
*[[Wikipedia:Kim Jong-un|Kim Jong Un]]: Third son of Kim Jong-Il, the former Supreme Leader of North Korea.
*[[Wikipedia:John Wayne Gacy|John Gacy]]: A [[homos|gay]] serial murderer known as the "Killer Clown".

'''[[Mailbag 7]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Jeffrey Dahmer|Jeffrey Dahmer]]: Gay serial murderer who's most famous for practicing cannibalism on his victims.
*[[Wikipedia:Starship Troopers|Sergeant Charles Zim]]: A character from ''Starship Troopers'', played by Clancy Brown in the movie.
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Brigitte Bardot|Emmanuelle Bardot]].
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Levi_Johnston|Levi Johnston]].

'''[[Mailbag 8]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Bailey-Jay Granger|Linetrap]]. But she doesn't really count.

'''[[Mailbag 9]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:The Big Lebowski|Walter Sobchak]]: John Goodman's character in the movie ''The Big Lebowski''. Goodman himself is mentioned in the body of the email.
*[[Wikipedia:Horst Wessel|Horst Wessel]]: Slain activist made into an icon of the Nazi Party.
*[[Wikipedia:Trent Reznor|Trent Reznor]]: The composer and writer of all of Nine Inch Nails' music.
*[[Wikipedia:Mahmoud Ahmadinejad|Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]: Then current president of Iran.

'''[[Mailbag 10]]'''
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Mahmoud Ahmadinejad|Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]].
*[[Wikipedia:Bilbo Baggins|Bilbo Baggins]]: Protagonist of ''[[Wikipedia:The Hobbit|The Hobbit]]'' and a supporting character in ''[[Wikipedia:The Lord of the Rings|The Lord of the Rings]]'' trilogy.
*[[Wikipedia:List of Legend of the Galactic Heroes characters#Leading Admirals|Ernest Mecklinger]]: A character in ''[[Wikipedia:Legend of the Galactic Heroes|Legend of the Galactic Heroes]]''.

'''[[Mailbag 11]]'''
*[[wikipedia:Paul Bernardo|Paul Bernardo]]: Serial killer and rapist.
*[[wikipedia:There_Will_Be_Blood|Daniel Plainview]]: Daniel Day-Lewis's character in the movie ''There Will Be Blood''.
*[[Wikipedia:Joseph Joestar|Joseph Joestar]]: The second-generation hero from the manga ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure''.
*[[Wikipedia:Frank Capone|Frank Capone]]: Brother and partner in crime of the infamous [[Wikipedia:Al Capone|Al Capone]].

'''[[Mailbag 12]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Besarion Jughashvili|Besarion Jughashvili]]: Joseph Stalin's father.
*Another repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Levi Johnston|Levi Johnston]].

'''[[Mailbag 13]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Charles Darwin|Charles Darwin]]: Scientist best known for first postulating the Theory of Evolution.
*[[Wikipedia:The Man Who Was Thursday|Gabriel Syme]]: Main character of the Christian allegory ''The Man Who Was Thursday''.
*[[Wikipedia:Rod Blagojevich|Rod Blagojevich]]: Disgraced former governor of Illinois.
*[[Wikipedia:Walter Breuning|Walter Breuning]]: Guy who's really, really old.
*[[Wikipedia:Oedipus Rex|Oedipus Rex]]: Main character of the play by Sophocles of the same name.
*[[wikipedia:Jokela school shooting|Erik Pikkuvikainen]]: Spliced-around version of Pekka-Eric Auvinen, the kid responsible for the Jokela school shooting.
*[[Wikipedia:Albert Speer|Albert Speer]]: German architect and minister in Hitler's government. Email address "domebuilder" refers to [[wikipedia:Volkshalle|a famously disproportionate design]].

'''[[Mailbag 14]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Joseph Jackson (manager)|Joseph Jackson]]: Michael Jackson's father.
*[[Wikipedia:Charles Whitman|Charles Whitman]]: Clock tower sniper.
*[[Wikipedia:Paul McCartney|Paul McCartney]]: International rock star and former member of The Beatles.
*[[Wikipedia:Gloria Steinem|Gloria Steinem]]: Feminist activist.
*[[Wikipedia:Elton John|Elton John]]: International rock star. Wrote under his birth name: Reginald Dwight.
*[[Wikipedia:Eddie Berganza|Eddie Berganza]]: Comic artist.

'''[[Mailbag 15]]'''
*[[wikipedia:Norio Wakamoto|Norio Wakamoto]]: Japanese voice actor.
*[[wikipedia:Alfred_Jarry|Alfred Jarry]]: French absurdist author and playwright.

'''[[Mailbag 16]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Ron Jeremy|Ron Jeremy]]: Porn star.
*[[Wikipedia:Rembrandt_Brown|Rembrandt Brown]]: Fictional singer from the TV show ''Sliders''. His e-mail address, "Crying Man," refers to his nickname within the show.

'''[[Mailbag 17]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Johnny Winter|Johnny Winter]]: Blues singer.
*[[Wikipedia:Rob_Schneider|Robert Schneider]]: American film actor.

'''[[Mailbag 18]]'''
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Joseph Jackson (manager)|Joseph Jackson]].
*[[Wikipedia:Ed Gein|Edward Gein]]: Insane murderer and grave robber, inspired ''The Texas Chainsaw Massacre'', ''Psycho'' and the Buffalo Bill character in ''The Silence of the Lambs''.
*[[Wikipedia:The Screwtape Letters|Wormwood]]: Apprentice demon from C.S. Lewis's novel ''The Screwtape Letters''. Screwtape himself, Wormwood's uncle and mentor, is mentioned, referred to as "Mr. Tape".
*[[Wikipedia:Castlevania|Maria Renard]]: A character in several ''Castlevania'' games.

'''[[Mailbag 19]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Marilyn vos Savant|Marilyn vos Savant]]: Held the Guinness world record for Highest IQ until that record was retired.
*[[Wikipedia:Light Yagami|Light Yagami]]: Mass-murdering main character of ''Death Note''. His name is written weeaboo style as "Yagami Raito".
*[[Wikipedia:Black_Dynamite|Fiendish Dr. Wu]]: Antagonist and kung fu master from ''Black Dynamite''.

'''[[Mailbag 20]]'''
*While not written by any specific character, a direct reference to [[Wikipedia:Strong Bad|Strong Bad]].
*[[Wikipedia:Cory_Matthews|Corey Matthews]]: Main character of ''Boy Meets World''.
*[[Wikipedia:Bruce Lee|Bruce Lee]]: Martial artist and actor, written under his Chinese name "Lee Jun Fan".

'''[[Mailbag 21]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Margaret Mead|Margaret Mead]]: Christian anthropologist and writer.
*[[Wikipedia:Jesus Christ|Jesus Christ]]: The Christian Messiah.
*[[Wikipedia:Colin Baker|Colin Baker]]: English actor who portrayed the 6th incarnation of [[wikipedia:Doctor Who|The Doctor.]]

'''[[Mailbag 22]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Tom Jones (singer)|Tom Jones]]: Popular Welsh lounge singer. Also the protagonist of Henry Fielding's novel ''[[wikipedia:The_History_of_Tom_Jones,_a_Foundling|The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling]]'', from whom the singer takes his stage name.

'''[[Mailbag 23]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Adolf Meyer (psychiatrist)|Adolf Meyer]]: Psychologist and former president of the American Psychiatric Association.
*[[Wikipedia:Guybrush Threepwood|Guybrush Threepwood]]: Protagonist of the ''[[Wikipedia:Monkey Island (series)|Monkey Island]]'' adventure game series.
*[[Wikipedia:The Fountainhead|Howard Roark]]: Main character of the Ayn Rand novel ''The Fountainhead''.
*[[Wikipedia:List of characters in the Pokémon anime series#Rivals|Gary Oak]]: Ash's rival from the ''[[Pokémon]]'' anime.
*[[Wikipedia:Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold|Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold]]: Columbine school shooters. The letter was not purported to be written by them specifically, but contained their pictures, and was written by someone claiming to be their teacher.
*[[Wikipedia:Morrissey|Steven Patrick Morrissey]]: Singer, former member of The Smiths.
*[[Wikipedia:Mega Man (original series)|Thomas Light]]: Inventor of ''Mega Man'', from the video game series of the same name.

'''[[Mailbag 24]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Lizzie_Borden|Liz Borden]]: Boston woman famously accused of murdering her father and stepmother with an axe, but never convicted.
*[[wikipedia:Pretty_Woman|Vivian Ward]]: Main character of the movie ''Pretty Woman''.
*[[Wikipedia:Sayonara,_Zetsubou-Sensei|Zetsubou-sensei]]: Main character of the manga ''Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei''.
*[[Wikipedia:Wolverine_(comics)|Wolverine]]: Marvel Comics superhero, written under his real name "Logan".
*[[Wikipedia:Magneto_(comics)|Magneto]]: Marvel Comics supervillain, written under the name "Max Eisenhardt".

'''[[Mailbag 25]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Bailey-Jay Granger|Linetrap]] again.

'''[[Mailbag 26]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Aliens (film)|Trevor Wierzbowski]]: Minor character from the movie ''Aliens''.
*[[Wikipedia:Stephen King|Stephen King]]: Famed horror author. Chris actually noticed this one, probably because the writer of the letter was too blatant.
*[[Wikipedia:Chris Brown (entertainer)|Christopher Brown]]: R&B singer. His letter is written about his then-[[Wikipedia:Rihanna|Rihanna]], and how he beat the hell out of her.

'''[[Mailbag 27]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Ted Kennedy|Ted Kennedy]]: Politician, recently deceased. Wrote about [[Wikipedia:Mary Jo Kopechne|Mary Jo Kopechne]], the girl who died next to him in the infamous Chappaquiddick car accident.
*[[Wikipedia:John Calvin|John Calvin]]: Christian philosopher whose ideas about predestination have shaped much of Protestantism.
*[[Wikipedia:Jack Harkness|Jack Harkness]]: Character from ''Doctor Who'' and its spinoff, ''Torchwood'' (referred to by the email handle)
*[[Wikipedia:Randal Graves|Randal Graves]]: Character from Kevin Smith's movies.
*[[Wikipedia:David Vanian|David Vanian]]: Lead singer for the punk rock band The Damned.
*And [[Wikipedia:Bailey-Jay Granger|Linetrap]] again.

'''[[Mailbag 28]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Bailey-Jay Granger|Linetrap]]

'''[[Mailbag 29]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Feldgrau|Herr Feldgrau]]: This enthusiastically racist correspondent is named after the color of German army uniforms during World War II: "feldgrau" is German for "field gray."
*Reprint of [[Wikipedia:Eddie Berganza|Eddie Berganza]]'s letter. While it's likely Chris has no idea who this is, he called him out on his identity, probably because the letter made a very big deal out of his career.

'''[[Mailbag 30]]'''
*[[Family Guy|Meg Griffin]]: Character from Family Guy. Chris noticed and played along as the author was playing up his proposed ''Family Guy'' script.
*[[Wikipedia:Jim Lee|Jim Lee]]: Comic artist.
*[[Wikipedia:Stan (song)|Stan]]: Character from the [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] song of the same name. Text of the letter was the first verse of said song, altered to apply to Chris.
*[[Wikipedia:Davros|Davros]]: Character from Doctor Who, creator of a genocidal race known as Daleks. He asks Chris questions about basic genetics and evolution in order to wrap his head around [[Homos|"the gay gene"]].

'''[[Mailbag 31]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson]]: Deceased American pop singer, famously accused of child molestation, but never convicted.
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Stephen King|Stephen King]]. Chris either refused to respond or forgot.
*[[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy VII|Rufus Shinra]]: Character from the video game ''Final Fantasy VII''.

'''[[Mailbag 32]]'''
*While not using any character's name, one author's name and e-mail address were a reference to the Dethtroll episode of [[Wikipedia:Metalocalypse|Metalocalypse]].
*[[Wikipedia:H. P. Lovecraft|H. P. Lovecraft]]: Author, creator of the cosmic horror genre of literature.
*[[Wikipedia:Jane Austen|Jane Austen]]: Author of ''Pride and Prejudice'' and other romantic novels. Humorously, Chris accused her of being uncreative.

'''[[Mailbag 33]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Edward R. Burke|Ed Burke]]: American politician. Might also refer to the British political philosopher [[Wikipedia:Edmund Burke|Edmund Burke]].

'''[[Mailbag 34]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Ezra Pound|Ezra Pound]]: Poet. Oddly, the e-mail address given referenced Shakespeare's play [[Wikipedia:The Merchant of Venice|The Merchant of Venice]], which has a [[Michael Snyder|scary Jewish man]] as the villain.
*[[Wikipedia:Snatcher|Gillian Seed]]: Main character of the video game ''Snatcher''.
*[[Wikipedia:Baby-sitters club#Mary Anne Spier|Mary Anne Spier]]: Character from ''The Baby-Sitters Club'', a series of novels for young girls.

'''[[Mailbag 35]]'''
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson]].
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Snatcher|Gillian Seed]].
*[[Wikipedia:Josef Mengele|Josef Mengele]]: Nazi war criminal, famous for his inhumane medical experiments.
*[[Wikipedia:Fred West|Fred West]]: English serial killer and rapist.

'''[[Mailbag 36]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Kevin Mitnick|Kevin Mitnick]]: Renowned '80s computer hacker.
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Ron Jeremy|Ron Jeremy]], this time claiming to be a clergyman.

'''[[Mailbag 37]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Gary Larson|Gary Larson]]: Creator of ''The Far Side'' cartoons.

'''[[Mailbag 38]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Freddie Mercury|Freddie Mercury]]: Lead singer of the band Queen. Written under his Persian birth name Farrokh Bulsara.
*[[Wikipedia:Toby Klein|"Mr. Insanity" Toby Klein]]: American professional wrestler.

'''[[Mailbag 39]]'''
*Another repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson]].
*[[Wikipedia:Gendo Ikari|Gendo Ikari]]: Character from the anime series ''Neon Genesis Evangelion''.
*[[Wikipedia:Chang Yu-sheng|Chang Yu-sheng]]: Late Chinese vocalist.
*[[Wikipedia:Puyo Puyo|Arle Nadja]]: Protagonist of the ''Puyo Puyo'' video games.
*[[Wikipedia:Vidkun Quisling|Vidkun Quisling]]: Norwegian politician, attempted to seize power during WWII and was subsequently executed for treason.
*[[Wikipedia:Quincy Magoo|Mr. Magoo]]: Legally blind cartoon character.

'''[[Mailbag 40]]'''
*[[Blake]]: Black Sonichu. Not "famous", but Chris completely missed it anyways.
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Ron Jeremy|Ron Jeremy]].

'''[[Mailbag 41]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Milton Bradley|Milton Bradley]]: Board game pioneer.
*[[Wikipedia:William McKinley|William McKinley]]: 25th president of the United States.
*[[Wikipedia:Neil Gaiman|Neil Gaiman]]: Novelist and author of the ''Sandman'' comic book series.
*[[Wikipedia:Kathryn Janeway|Kathryn Janeway]]: Character from the TV series ''Star Trek: Voyager''.

'''[[Mailbag 42]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Augustus Hill|Augustus Hill]]: Character from the TV series ''Oz''.
*[[Wikipedia:Jaz Hoyt|Jazz Hoyt]]: Another character from ''Oz''.
*[[Wikipedia:Snatcher|Randam Hajile]]: Character from the video game ''Snatcher''.
*[[Wikipedia:John Williams|John Williams]]: Composer of film soundtracks.
*[[Wikipedia:Fight Club#Robert "Bob" Paulson|Robert Paulson]]: Character from the movie ''Fight Club''. The only reference to his full name was in his e-mail address.
*[[Wikipedia:Tomás de Torquemada|Tomás de Torquemada]]: Leader of the Spanish Inquisition. Written under the name "Thomas Torquemada".
*[[Wikipedia:Kareem Saïd|Kareem Saïd]]: Yet another character from ''Oz''. Written under the name "Kareem Siad".

'''[[Mailbag 43]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Masaki Sumitani|Masaki Sumitani]]: Japanese comedian and actor. Most famous for his character [[Homos|Hard Gay]].
*[[Wikipedia:List of recurring Monty Python's Flying Circus characters|Ken Shabby]]: Recurring character from [[Monty Python]]'s Flying Circus.
*[[Wikipedia:R. Dorothy Wayneright|R. Dorothy Wayneright]]: Android girl from the anime series ''Big O''.
*[[Wikipedia:G.K. Chesterton|G.K. Chesterton]]: English Catholic apologist and author.

'''[[Mailbag 44]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Max Cady|Max Cady]]:Character from the novel ''The Executioners'', adapted for the movies as ''Cape Fear''.
*[[Wikipedia:Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy|Trevor McFur]]: Furry from ''Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy'', a launch game for the Atari Jaguar game console.
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Snatcher|Randam Hajile]].

'''[[Mailbag 45]]'''
*[[Duck|Mike Hawke]]: Dick joke commonly used in prank calls.
*Another appearance from [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Mike Jackson]], whose life is rapidly deteriorating.
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/billymc Billy MC]: [[YouTube]] Let's Player, often associated with [[McDonald's]] food. The email exploits this for all it's worth.
*[[Wikipedia:Manfred Eicher|Manfred Eicher]]: German record producer.
*[[Wikipedia:Gil Gerard|Gil Gerard]]: Actor, most famously known for playing Buck Rogers.
*[[Wikipedia:Adam Savage|Adam Savage]]: Co-host of ''Mythbusters''. Chris likely noticed, as the e-mail made a big deal out of him being from Mythbusters, and then sent him a picture of a man's asshole.

'''[[Mailbag 46]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Kevin Peter Hall|Kevin Peter Hall]]: Actor, the man in the alien suit in the first two ''Predator'' films.
*[[Wikipedia:Tom Green|Tom Green]]: Either a terrible comedian or an avant-garde genius, depending on whom you ask.

'''[[Mailbag 47]]'''
*While not a direct reference, one e-mail address referenced "[[Wikipedia:Rocket to Russia|Teenage Lobotomy]]" a song by [[Wikipedia:The Ramones|The Ramones]].
*[[Wikipedia:Valentina Tereshkova|Valentina Tereshkova]]: Russian astronaut and the first woman in space.
*[[Wikipedia:Tom Vilsack|Tom Vilsack]]: Then current U.S. Secretary of Agriculture.

'''[[Mailbag 48]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Jeff_Gerstmann|Jeff Gerstmann]]: Video game journalist, notorious for his firing from GameSpot.
*[[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Mike Jackson]] returns, all bummed out that Chris broke his promise.
*[[Wikipedia:The Proposition|Morris Stanley]]: Ray Winstone's character in the [[PandaHalo|Aussie]] Western film ''The Proposition''. Unlike in the film, the proposition made in the email revolved around Chris's petty rivalry with ''[[Asperchu]]'', since Chris would have little interest in saving [[Cole Smithey|his brother]] from being hanged.
*[[Wikipedia:Billy Herrington|Billy Herrington]]: Bisexual porn star, the inspiration for many strange memes among Japanese internet communities. His e-mail handle, "Bro Aniki," is a reference to the [[Wikipedia: Cho Aniki|Cho Aniki]] video game series, which is rife with homosexual innuendo.

'''[[Mailbag 49]]'''
*One letter combined the names of [[Wikipedia:Bart Simpson|Bart Simpson]] of The Simpsons and [[Wikipedia:Brock Samson|Brock Samson]] of the Venture Brothers. Probably the second time Chris [[Father Call|failed to recognize Brock]].
*[[Wikipedia:Fist of the Blue Sky|Kenshiro Kasumi]]: Main character of the manga series ''Fist of the Blue Sky''.

'''[[Mailbag 50]]'''
*Nothing. No actual e-mails either, because Chris copypasta'd a bunch of sarcastic forum posts that pretended to kiss his ass and took them all at face value.

'''[[Mailbag 51]]'''
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Gil Gerard|Gil Gerard]].
*[[Wikipedia:The Notorious B.I.G.|The Notorious B.I.G.]]: Deceased rapper, written under his nickname "Biggie".
*[[Wikipedia:Scott Bernard|Scott Bernard]]: Character from the cartoon series ''Robotech''.
*While it did not refer to any single character, one name and e-mail address was a direct reference to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA mahvel baybee].

'''[[Mailbag 52]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Lisa Marie Presley|Lisa Marie Presley]]: As "Marie Jackson" revealing the tragic ending of the [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Mike Jackson]] saga. In a bizarre inversion, Chris assumes the letter is about the real Michael Jackson, and ignores it.

'''[[Mailbag 53]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Christopher Doyle|Chris Doyle]]: Award-winning Australian cinematographer.
*[[Wikipedia:Jack Marsh|Jack Marsh]]: Renowned Australian cricketer.
*[[Wikipedia:Dr._Tran|Dr. Tran]]: Star of an old YouTube meme.
*[[Wikipedia:Robert_William_Fisher|Robert Fisher]]: One of FBI's most-wanted fugitive who murdered his family in 2001.
*[[Wikipedia:Frank Burns|Frank Burns]]: A character from the movie and TV series ''M*A*S*H''.

'''[[Mailbag 54]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:David_Wright_(baseball)|David Wright]]: New York Mets All-Star third baseman.
*[[Wikipedia:I Am Legend|Robert Neville]]: Hero of the novel and film ''I Am Legend''. Has been played by Charlton Heston, Vincent Price, and Will Smith.
*[[Wikipedia:Michael Steele|Michael Steele]]: Chairman of the Republican National Committee (openly identified as such).
*Repeat appearance by [[Wikipedia:Neon Genesis Evangelion|Gendo Ikari]], now using the e-mail handle "It's Gendo" (in reference to a fan-parody video).

'''[[Mailbag 55]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Anna Malle|Anna Malle]]: Deceased pornographic film actress.
*[[Wikipedia:Dale_Gribble#Rusty_Shackleford|Rusty Shackleford]]: Alias used by the character Dale Gribble from the TV cartoon ''King of the Hill''.
*[[Wikipedia:Charles Aznavour|Charles Aznavour]]: French singer and songwriter, namesake of the anime character Char Aznable.
*[[Wikipedia:Harry Patridge|Harry Partridge]]: Beloved internet animator. Might be the real Harry considering the fact that Chris and [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] were featured in [[Chris in the media#Nicolas Cage Wants Cake|two of]] [[Chris in the media#Skyrim|his shorts]].
*[[Wikipedia:John Shaft|John Shaft]]: Hero of several 1970s blaxploitation movies.
*Repeat appearances by [[Wikipedia:I Am Legend|Robert Neville]] and [[Wikipedia:Dr._Tran|Dr. Tran]]. Leeland (Tran's best friend) also sends an email.

'''[[Mailbag 56]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Mystery_Science_Theater_3000|Crow Servo]]: Amalgam of the characters Crow T. Robot and Tom Servo from the TV series ''Mystery Science Theater 3000''.
*Another e-mail in the [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Mike Jackson]] saga, this time allegedly from his son.
*Repeat appearances by [[Wikipedia:I Am Legend|Robert Neville]] and [[Wikipedia:Dr._Tran|Dr. Tran]].

'''[[Mailbag 57]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Fyodor Dostoyevsky|Fyodor Dostoyevsky]]: Russian novelist.
*[[Wikipedia:Planeteer|Ma-Ti]]: Character from '90s TV cartoon ''Captain Planet and the Planeteers''.

'''[[Mailbag 58]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Reimu Hakurei|Reimu Hakurei]]: One of the main characters from the ''[[Wikipedia:Touhou Project|Touhou Project]]'' series of games. The e-mail handle 'diochromatic.butterfly' is a reference to one of her theme songs.
*[[Wikipedia:Takato Matsuda|Takato Matsuda]]: One of the main characters from ''[[Wikipedia:Digimon Tamers|Digimon Tamers]]'', known in America as ''Digimon'' Season 3.
*[[Wikipedia:Wilhelm II, German Emperor|Kaiser Wilhelm]]: Leader of Germany until its defeat in World War I.
*[[Wikipedia:Sam Eagle|Sam Eagle]]: A recurring character from ''The Muppet Show''.
*[[Wikipedia:Frank Miller (comic book writer)|Frank Miller]]: American comic artist, creator of ''Sin City'' and ''300''.
*[[Wikipedia:Otacon|Hal Emmerich]]: A.K.A. "Otacon". Hacker/researcher from the [[Metal Gear|Metal Gear Solid]] series of video games. The e-mail address refers to "Konota" [''sic''] from [[Wikipedia:Lucky Star (manga)|Lucky Star]].
*[[Wikipedia:David Hubbard|David Hubbard]]: Long-deceased senator from Alabama.

'''[[Mailbag 59]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Paul Hogan|Paul Hogan]]: Australian actor, star of the ''Crocodile Dundee'' films.

'''[[Mailbag 60]]'''
*[[Wikipedia:Terry Bogard|Terry Bogard]]: Hero of the ''Fatal Fury'' video games, who writes using his full name Terrence Bogard. Perhaps coincidentally, another correspondent the the same mailbag uses the nickname "Big Bear," which was also the name of a minor character from ''Fatal Fury 2''.

'''[[Mailbag 61]]'''
*John "J.D." La Rue: character from [[Wikipedia:Hill Street Blues|''Hill Street Blues'']].
*[[Wikipedia:Dr. Tran|Dr. Tran]], character from a series of web videos.

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Chris and religion

2023-07-06T15:21:40Z

Jimmy747: /* Neo Spiritual Christianity */

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{{Dated|[[Jail letters|several jail letters]] and Neo-Spiritual Christianity}}
{{Split Off|Neo Spiritual Christianity}}

{{quote|I believe in God and Jesus too, but God must hate me to put me in the lifestyle I am forced to be cooped up and bored with.|Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani?! (Facebook, 2013)}}
{{quote|So, I dare say with all due respect to the Lord: meh.|Chris abandons the Christian God for [[Hyperdimension Neptunia]] goddesses<ref>[[Misc Idea Guy chats#Abandoning Christianity for Hyperdimension Neptunia]]</ref>}}

[[Image:NeptuniagoodbyeJC.png|thumb|[[China|The real reason Chris initially abandoned Christianity.]]]]
[[File:July22LastSupperArt2.jpg|thumb|Chris's version of ''The Last Supper''. He colored Jesus last because "he liked to serve others before serving himself." Note that Judas is [[Chris and race|depicted as the sole]] [[Niggos|niggo]].]]

'''Religion''' is the belief in and worship of supernatural powers. [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s '''religious beliefs''' have significantly informed his beliefs and actions. For most of his life, Chris declared himself a Christian, being an attendant of three churches. However, Chris's form of Christianity deviates from other denominations as he incorporates a grab bag of blasphemous mystical beliefs from unrelated traditions and [[Family Guy|other sources]]. He further deviates from Christianity with long held beliefs that he is of unique spiritual importance- having [[Dreams|visions from God]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|magical powers]].

Online, Chris cherrypicked the Bible to reinforce his own beliefs while neglecting doctrine that would have him alter his own conduct. Chris long espoused traditional Christian teachings condemning [[homos]]exuality while ignoring that it also forbids pre-marital [[Chris and sex|sex]], [[Nudes|pornography]] and [[Chris and health|gluttony]]. This dissonance is exemplified in his reaction to the news that [[PandaHalo]] had been raped and impregnated by [[Clyde Cash]]: he actively encouraged her to spend time with her rapist because a child should know and be raised by both of its parents... shortly after encouraging her to get an abortion.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> Chris's [[autism|narrow view of the world]] requires that [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] in the comics, and his [[true and loyal fanbase]] in the [[Chris and reality|real world]], share his religious beliefs- meanwhile, all trolls will [[BURN IN HELL]].

Under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris abandoned his Christian faith and started following the CPU goddesses from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia]] video games on 17 [[December 2017]].<ref>[[:File:Sonichu 16 page-34.jpeg|Official renouncement of God]]</ref> As his Hyperdimension Neptunia-fueled delusions spiraled out of control, Chris came to believe that he is the [[Tomgirl Saga|goddess]] [[CPU Blue Heart]], orchestrating the [[Dimensional Merge|apocalypse]] which will create a [[Dimensions#1C-211987|heavenly new world]]. Having taken time to read the bible in jail after his arrest for [[Affair with Mother|incest with his mother]], Chris believes he is the [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|reincarnation of Jesus Christ]] (on top of everything else). His resulting religion, '''Neo Spiritual Christianity''', is an unholy amalgam of authentic religious traditions (Christian and otherwise), troll forgeries and narcissism, mixed together with neither forethought nor consistency. He has demanded that watchers worship him, and believes it feasible that he could convince half of the world population to join his personality cult.{{refn|group="note"|For comparison, Christendom, the world's largest religion, made up only 31% of the world population at the time.<ref>[https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/05/christians-remain-worlds-largest-religious-group-but-they-are-declining-in-europe/ Christians remain world’s largest religious group, but they are declining in Europe]</ref>}}

==Early Life==

As a Christian man himself, [[Bob Chandler]] initially desired to name his son Christian, but "was chicken."<ref>[[IT TOOK A TALKING BEAR TO GIVE THE NAME A YOUNG BOY LOVES]]</ref> Chris's name change from Christopher to Christian at the age of ten came from what may well have been divine intervention in the form of [[Leonard Bearstein]], who mistook a Christopher as Christian, and in turn the young boy adopted the his bear-given name. Chris has since referred to Leonard Bearstein in the same sentence as God Himself,<ref>[[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!]]</ref> and his arguably spiritual interaction with and belief in the bear was the beginning of many unorthodox ideologies.

== Chris and Christianity ==
{{quote|And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all [[Jacob Sockness|unrighteousness]], [[BlueSpike|fornication]], [[Twin Falling Towers|wickedness]], [[Kacey|covetousness]], [[Don't Mess With Me|maliciousness]]; full of [[Infinitely high boyfriend factor|envy]], [[Death threats|murder]], [[Mass debating|debate]], [[List of Chris's lies|deceit]], [[Chris and anger|malignity]]; whisperers, [[Autism Tutorial Extra|backbiters]], haters of God, [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|despiteful]], [[Chris and his ego|proud]], [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|boasters]], inventors of [[Sonichu|evil things]], [[Bob Chandler|disobedient to parents]], [[Naïve|without understanding]], [[Etsy|covenantbreakers]], [[Hanky-panky|without natural affection]], [[Chris and remorse|implacable]], [[Sonichu Special 4|unmerciful]]: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which [[For Julie's Eyes Only|commit such things are worthy of death]], not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.|Romans 1:28-32, on Chris}}

[[Image:CHRISjesuss.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Program from Chris's baptism.]]

===Church Attendance===

{{See also|Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church}}
The first church Chris is known to have attended is Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church in [[Richmond|Chesterfield County]], which he attended as a teenager in the 90s.<ref>[[Church audio#00:18:10 - Seth MacFarlane & The Bible]]; [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Eating spaghetti and conversing (0:36:49–0:44:46)]]</ref> Chris would later attend [[Grace Baptist Church]], a small {{w|Southern Baptist}} congregation in [[Charlottesville]] that launched in July [[2000]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20071215133152/http://cvilletomorrow.typepad.com/charlottesville_tomorrow_/2007/12/grace_baptist.html Grace Baptist Church asks for more time to prepare request]</ref> In [[2008]] he was, under [[Nudes|mysterious circumstances]], forced to leave that community, at which point he and Bob began attending [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]]. Although Chris and Bob identified as Methodists as of [[2009]], Barbara continued to identify as a Presbyterian.<ref name=regina>[[Regina e-mails#Chris rambles like a motherfucker]]</ref> In spite of this, Bob and Barbara were married in a Baptist church, suggesting that they were never very particular about the differences between Protestant denominations.

"Wesley Mem" is located near the [[University of Virginia]] and has an unusually liberal theology; the common conclusion among [[trolls]] is that congregations more in line with Chris's intolerance of [[homos]] were equally intolerant of ''him'', so he had to come there. The doctrinal differences between the Baptist, Methodist and Presbyterian denominations were probably too subtle for Chris to concern himself with, and he likely did not spiritually identify with any particular denomination of Christianity beyond simply being Protestant, or even just Christian (as suggested by his statement that Methodism and Presbyterianism "are both of Christian Religions").<ref name=regina/>

===Earlier notions of God===
[[Image:CWCletter.jpg|thumb|left|Chris invokes God and Jesus, saying they told him that [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] is real. Proof that God and Jesus are on the [[trolls]]' side.]]
[[Image:SchuComic10P09.jpg|thumb|right|God and Jesus ('sup?) tell Chris he is meant to be with [[Ivy]].]]

Traditionally, Chris had a fundamental belief in an omnipotent, benevolent male God. He also accepted Jesus Christ as the son of God and the savior of mankind. He was reluctant to mention God without also including Jesus, perhaps out of some sense that he must stress his specifically Christian notion of God (despite other Abrahamic sects using completely different words for Him). In effect, Chris frequently referred to "God and Jesus" (or "GodJesus"<ref>[[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Update 9 April 2009]]</ref>) as if they were some sort of {{w|Binitarianism|Binity}}, a deviation from the mainstream Christian concept of the {{w|Trinity}} ("The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit") that his churches would regard as heretical.

Chris believes God has a special interest in his own life- which would be consistent with Western monotheism- except Chris seemed to view God as a more of an instrument of his own will than a supreme being to Whom he is subject. In Chris's view of God, the Almighty will overlook his misdeeds, but will punish any who malign Chris. Case in point, the ''fact'' that Chris cheated in the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|PaRappa the Rapper contest]] is not nearly as important as the ''suspicion'' that [[Adam Stackhouse]] did, and Chris invoked God numerous times in his threats to Adam. Adam is no exception- Chris has been commonly observed invoking the wrath of God in his [[Death threats|infantile threats]]. Along with punishing all trolls, Chris expects God to hand him a sweetheart on a silver platter<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 3]] message at 2:22:22 AM</ref> but is oblivious to the fact that God has yet to back him up on any prayers.

Much like the {{w|Ruhollah Khomeini|Ayatollah Khomeini}}, Chris attributes most of his impetus to commands given to him directly from GodJesus in [[Dreams|visions]]. “I'd say my spirit is active while I am awake, but it does more when I am at rest or sleeping,” he wrote in 2014.<ref name=lvlup>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing]]</ref> His exact beliefs concerning these prophetic dreams are difficult to pin down, but the most rational interpretation is that Chris dreams about something he'd like to do, then wakes up and decides it was God telling him to do it. In Chris's mind, each vision is simultaneously a directive to do something and proof that it will happen no matter what occurs. For instance, after Chris had a vision about fathering a [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|daughter]], he decided he was required to actively [[Love Quest|make that happen]] while also assuring himself that [[Virgin with rage|failure]] was impossible. When Chris was being accused of [[Chris and race|racism]] for insisting that he can only date white women, he justified this by arguing that his prophesied daughter must be white.

Visions from God supposedly confirmed that [[Blanca Weiss]], then [[PandaHalo]] and finally [[Ivy]] were to be the mother of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Chris's child]], despite the fact that each of these women subsequently turned out to be [[trolls]]. This proves that God, if He exists, is either not responsible for Chris's supposedly prophetic dreams, or is having a laugh at his expense, an idea which Chris may have later taken to heart.

===Afterlife===
{{Quote|For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.|Ephesians 2:8-10, on the place of good deeds in the Christian faith.}}
{{Quote|Like most people; our souls leave our bodies, we end up in Heaven or Hell depending on our deeds/misdeeds, and possibly Reincarnation.|Chris.<ref>[[Mailbag 30#Questions]]</ref>}} {{clear}}

While the idea of good deeds causing someone to go to Heaven and bad deeds sending them to Hell is a common one, most Protestant theology explicitly states that the salvation of one's soul is based completely on one's faith. Defying this, Chris has stated that one goes to Heaven or Hell based completely on personal actions. He thinks that he will go to heaven because he's done "[[Common Questions#1 January 2010|a lot of]] [[28 October 2011|good deeds]]". Likewise, he feels that [[homos]] are almost certainly bound to go to Hell, and need to become heterosexuals to "[[Mailbag 18#In which Chris believes he has magic powers (srsly)|better their chances of going to Heaven]]". He has also stated numerous times that he feels [[Clyde Cash|various]] [[Jack Thaddeus|trolls]] are bound for Hell for making fun of people over the Internet. He has suggested that they [[To Clyde and Jack|commit suicide]] so that they might receive their eternal punishment faster. In [[Common Questions#09 January 2010|Common Questions 9 Jan 2010]], [[Thorg]] questioned Chris for threatening damnation against his Internet adversaries:

{{quotebox|"You often attempt to scare your [[trolls]] by stating they will go to hell. Some of your trolls do not believe in hell, what do you have to say to them?"}}

To which Chris responded:

{{quote|Firstly, it is NOT a "scare tactic", [[Chris and reality|IT IS FACT]]. And second, I say "Well, Believe it or not. You are Not Dead Yet".}}

Further complicating Chris's ideas of the afterlife, he believes in ghosts, going so far as to claim that he might have seen one.<ref name=lvlup/>

In 2013, Chris commented that he had considered suicide, but "The only reasons I don't do it are my mother and my dogs, and that premature death leaves one in Limbo."<ref>[[October 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref> In reality, {{w|Limbo}} is, in some Roman Catholic views, a state that unbaptised infants were supposed to enter into when they died: happy, but excluded from God due to their original sin. {{w|Religious views on suicide|Christian views on suicide}} and the fate of suicides in the afterlife is highly varied. His belief that suicide leads one to Limbo may stem from the ''[[South Park]]'' episode "{{w|Death (South Park)|Death}}", in which it is found that the grandfather of a minor character is spending eternity in limbo for having his grandson euthanize him.

In the eulogy Chris made for [[Patti Chandler|Patti]], he wrote that "[Patti] has departed from our world here on earth to a doggy heaven [...] she will run free and play with all the other dogs who are already having fun up [in doggy heaven]."<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#September 2006]]</ref> This suggests that Chris believes that animals (or at least dogs) have an afterlife.

=== Sin ===
{{quote|But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you...|Jesus Christ, Matthew 5:44}}
{{quote|I PRAY TO GOD AND JESUS TO [[Death threats|KILL]] [[Jason Kendrick Howell|JASON KENDRICK HOWELL]]|Chris, [[Sonichu Girls]] Forum}}
{{quote|HAVE A GOD DAMN HEART ATTACK RIGHT NOW, THIS VERY MOMENT YOU READ THIS MESSAGE, YOU GOD DAMN BITCHING WHORE!|E-mail from Chris to [[Vivian Gee|Vivian]]}}

[[File:John Asperchu.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Take note, Chris.]]
Chris's understanding of Christian theology is extremely limited, and he does not seem to know anything about the Bible (although he apparently owns a copy of the New International Version). His hatred of the homos had nothing to do with the prohibition of sodomy in the Old Testament, which he was unaware of until he heard about it from ''[[Family Guy]]''. His [[Fapcup|aversion to "spilling his seed"]] and his [[recycling|dedication to the unborn]] have absolutely no basis in Biblical passages condemning sexual immorality and abortion. Other than vehemently opposing [[homos]], [[trolls]] and [[jerkop]]s, Chris seems to have little notion about the nature of sin and evil except that people who do things he doesn't like should go to Hell. This is completely at odds with the part of Christian philosophy that states all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and anyone who repents his sins will be redeemed.

Chris believed that if he confesses his sins to GodJesus he will be forgiven. Private confessions directly to God are not uncommon in Protestantism, but generally it's assumed that the confessor is doing so out of true [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] and genuinely to atone for mistakes. However, Chris abuses the purpose of confession so that he can commit whatever wrongs he wants and then wipe the slate clean with his "confession." For example, Chris made [[To Clyde and Jack|a video]] in which he suggested that [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]] commit suicide so that they can burn in Hell forever. He later drew them doing just that in [[Sonichu (comic)|his comic]]. Just one day after the comic appearance, Chris answered a fan letter asking why he had been wishing suicide upon them, and pointing out that such a wish conflicts with his Christian beliefs. Chris responded that he had "confessed of that to God and Jesus, and they[sic] have forgiven [him] on that."<ref>[[Mailbag 33#Chris demanded suicide under "reasonable hatred"]]</ref> One of two things happened: either Chris wished for their deaths in the video, asked for forgiveness, then gleefully drew it happening afterward anyway, or he waited until he'd finally got done saying his piece, then conveniently offered up his confession right after getting everything out of his system. Either way, such a confession is highly disingenuous.

When Chris gave in to temptation and cybered with [[Vanessa Hudgens]] in violation of his monogamous relationship with [[Ivy]], Chris made [[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions|a big production]] out of confessing his sin and seeking forgiveness. This suggests that he previously had little to no experience with the idea of repenting sins before God.

Chris clearly does not follow the Christian concept of the seven deadly sins, as he commits [[death threats|wrath]], [[Liquid Chris|envy]], [[obesity|gluttony]], [[monthly tugboat|sloth]], [[Chris and money|greed]], [[virgin with rage|lust]] and [[Chris and his ego|pride]] constantly.

=== Forgiveness ===
[[Image:SonichuRosechuReligious.jpg|thumb|right|Sonichu and Rosechu recall Joseph's story of forgiveness immediately prior to Rosechu brutally injuring and sexually assaulting [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] in vengeance for [[Pickle|comparatively innocuous actions]].]]

A major tenet in most any religion you can think of is the act of forgiveness. Unfortunately for Chris, he has [[Autism|no idea of what forgiveness really is]], and will often hold grudges against [[Clyde Cash|anybody]] [[Michael Snyder|he]] feels has wronged him, [[Greene County Conspiracy|sometimes even for years]]. While some may argue that he did show [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|forgiveness]] in a few of his videos, even more will argue that such things were done either under an [[China|ulterior motive]] or is meaningless as he goes on to curse and scream at them later on.

[[This is how the Trial went|During Chris's court hearing]] on 10 July 2012, it was discovered that Michael Snyder made an honorable plea that Chris be shown leniency, as a felony was a life-changing event that could really harm Chris in the long run. This comes despite Chris [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris's Attitude at the GAMe PLACe|scaring his customers away]], ''(while he was still allowed in the store)'', [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean#Video|shouting racist slurs at him]], [[Autism Tutorial Part 3|threatening to set fire to his business]], and [[28 October 2011|injuring him with his car]]. This was probably the most extraordinary form of forgiveness that anyone has ever shown towards Chris, even after the latter's horrible actions. Chris's show of gratitude was to go against all common sense and commit ''public slander'' in a court of law:

{{quote|I don't think that [[Michael Snyder|thieving liar]] deserves a [[Monthly tugboat|red cent]]!|Chris<ref>[[This is how the Trial went]]</ref>}}

However, Chris has on occasion shown some capacity to genuinely forgive and move on, as shown at [[MAGfest]] where he was seen making up with [[Adam Stackhouse]] (albeit after 11 years). Such forgiveness has not been extended to the [[jerkops]], however.

=== Apostasy ===
For years before the [[Idea Guys]] seized the opportunity to infuse patent absurdities into Chris's mind, Chris appeared to have become somewhat disenchanted with God. Traditional theology has long dealt with the ''problem of evil'' in books Chris is unlikely to read any time soon. Despite Chris's strong belief that GodJesus was backing him up on his [[Love Quest]], God has nevertheless imparted upon him such [[stress]] and trolling. He seemed to believe that the way prayer should work is the same way a little kid learns to get what they want: by saying "please." To Chris, prayer was apparently like ordering a pizza: as long as you pray for something, it'll show up for you exactly how you ordered it. Since Chris hasn't gotten exactly what he has prayed for, the fault must lie with God. In a farewell [[Other documents#Epistle to the Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|letter]] meant for his fellow parishioners at Wesley Memorial, he wrote that "God sees fit for some (hate-filled) reason to continue to curse me as a jinx."

On 7 September 2013, Chris cursed God's name on [[Facebook]] after a run in with a [[Jerkop]]:

{{quotebox|1=
God is giving me the Middle Finger yet again! I backed up and scratched a car in El Agave Lot! And she's a damn Smoker! Now the damn Jerkop is giving me a hard time, because I am screaming up at Freaking Emanuel God! I want God to just kill me Now if he is going to keep giving me middle fingers and a damned difficult life!!!}}

He explained the reasons for his disillusionment in a [[May 2013]] letter to [[Kim Wilson|Kim]]:

{{quotebox|1=
Hey, Kim. I have just read over some of the webpage Phil relayed to me. I must admit, and Amy is welcome to read this as well, it took me by surprise seeing the words "Magick" and "Pagan" in this religion(?).

I like magic(k). I have fully accepted Jesus as my savior. And my mother, father, and what I've hear on television, all have informed me about heaven, hell, that the best way to live is as one does without much regret or with moderate acceptance and happiness. And that "God" is within all of us, as energy and direction. And in the end, we all believe in the same God(ess). Yet also, if God is supposed to love us all, why does he let me continue to have a Lot of downs in my life? I often feel temptation towards destroying the Lego Minifigure I have made in an image of God, or otherwise just torturing it. I admit, I am not perfect.

But I prattle or digress.

So, all things considered, Amy, I will be most willing to try your way on, and see how I feel fully about it after. The way I figure it, at least I can still go to my church regardless. :)}}

Soon thereafter, inspired by ''{{w|Futurama}}'', he seemed to divorce himself from a Christian conception of God altogether, choosing to believe in a rather capricious, relativistic deity:

{{quote|The Higher Force above us is Always Messing with each of our individual minds every day, rather each of you call him God, Emanuelle, Zeus, Buudah, or even the individual Destiny of your own. I am Not an Atheist, because I Sincerely Believe in the Higher Force of Above Us, even Jesus may be the Higher Force's Son. But every religion will have you believing in the One Same Higher Force. Right Or Wrong, It is truly set up to each Individual Perception of Every Individual Soul among us the Billions of People on this Big Blue Marble among Marbles in the Universe.|Chris on Facebook, August 2014.<ref>[[August 2014 Facebook Posts#tl;dr]]</ref>}}
{{clear}}

==Mysticism and sorcery==
{{main|Magical thinking}}
As early as [[2003]], Chris has invoked curses against his enemies: most famous is the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], borrowed from ''Dragonball Z'', which he had employed against [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. His magical thinking has been directed in various ways, as when he thought he could shift his [[obesity|body fat]] about by watching [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis|hypnotic internet videos]]. In recent years, he has embraced several occult teachings and practices from the [https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/New+Age New Age] movement: out-of-body experiences, chakras and special powers associated with [[Magic stones|crystals]], among others. Chris's willingness to embrace magical thinking made him susceptible to manipulation from trolls, climaxing in a strong reality disassociation from brainwashing at the hands of the Idea Guys.

==Delusions of Godhood==
{{see also|Messiah complex}}

{{quote|Fear not. For behold I bring tidings of great joy.|Sonichu, [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]}}
{{quote|I prayed for forgiveness from the real Christian. Sonichu, will he forgive me?|Aspie Sonichu, [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]}}
[[Image:Issue 10 Pg 48.jpg|thumb|Sonichu cracks open his tomb and descends in a beam of light.]]
[[File:EmperorChris.png|thumb|left|All hail Christian Weston Chandler, God-<s>Emperor</s> Mayor of [[CWCville]].]]

Beyond his [[Chris and his ego|self-infatuation]] visible from any of Chris's creative output, Chris had shown from an early period the nascent belief that he might have been specially chosen. Chris might have developed a God complex as early as [[2000]], as the halo floating over his head on the cover of ''[[Christian's Favorite Hits!]]'' seems to indicate. In his e-mails to [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] he seems to call himself Jesus: ''"You have my word as an Avid Gamer, Lamb of God, and Humble Human Being that I WILL work Very Hard to Save, Save, Save."''<ref>[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]</ref> However, this could also be a [[Chris and English|malapropism]] for "Word of God." More definite signs first emerged in late [[2009]], and have accreted over the decade since into Chris's current apotheosis.

Starting on page 42 of [[Sonichu 10|issue #10]], Chris displays a somewhat disturbing twist to the plot (such as it is) of his comics. [[Ultra Sonichu]] frees [[Zelina Rosechu]] from her stony state using his Chaotic powers, then appears to [[Darkbind Sonichu]] with a message similar in tone, if not outright text, to prophecies of the coming of Jesus Christ (complete with arms outstretched as if he were suspended on a crucifix).

Later on in the issue, Ultra Sonichu travels to the world of [[Asperchu]], where the characters of that comic inform him that they were forced into their roles by Alec, and that they had been praying to Christian Weston Chandler for deliverance and forgiveness. Lo and behold, Chris did send the Messiah Sonichu to end their suffering. Sonichu uses the "Chaotic Remedy" to miraculously cure them all of their [[Asperger syndrome]] (even though only Asperchu himself had the condition) and gives them new names and new, "better" looks.

It should be noted that, like Jesus Christ, [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] was born to a [[virgin with rage|virgin]].

Even before this, Chris had directly compared himself to God. In Issue #7, after Christian is lost in the Time Void, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_32 Sonichu says this].

{{quote|In the meantime, he will receive the [[Chris and English|accumilitive]] memories of the passing moments, so in a way, he is looking down on us, like our Lord and God are able to, but the vision may be blurred.|[[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]]}}

Possibly in response to criticism about acting as God, in [https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_61 later pages] Chris addressed the issue of the non-canon Chaotic Combo worshipping him in an incredibly ignorant manner. First, he declares that he is not God but "a servant of him and Jesus", and immediately after goes on to "forgive" Michael (the copycat Sonichu's made-over name) for "baring false witness against <nowiki>[Chris]</nowiki>", as if he has the authority to forgive the breaking of the Ten Commandments, ''like he's God or something.'' In addition, only five pages later [[Angelica]] condemns those who prefer [[Asperchu|Alec]]'s artwork over Chris's as "blasphemous".<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P66.jpg Issue 10, page 66]</ref>

Further evidence of Chris's blossoming God complex comes through his answer to some of the frequently asked questions that were put to him via the [[Mailbag]], where he states that he considers Sonichu to have over one billion fans.<ref>[[Common Questions]]</ref> The only other character who can claim such a number is GodJesus (or AllahMuhammad). This mad mentality is compounded by the fact that Chris is like a God to Sonichu; this means that his opinion of himself is that of a God's God. Or maybe a [[Christopher's name change|God's bear]]. Chris moves in mysterious ways.
[[File:Chrisified.jpg|thumb|left|300px]]
Chris's God complex has peaked with him [[Chris's Letter to Null|believing he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.]] Why God would ever decide that His son should return in the form of a fat manchild we will never know.

{{quote|as a Goddess Mysef[sic], I am unable to worship in churches|Chris, June 2019<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Chris says, according to Jesus, dimensional merge will be finished soon]]</ref>}}

It was under the [[Idea Guys]]'s manipulation that Chris's gathering apotheosis came to a head. [[File:Sonichu 16 page-4.JPG|thumb|200px|Chris depicting how he came to share his body with a video game goddess.]]
In November 2017, Chris became obsessed with [[Hyperdimension Neptunia]], a video game/anime series. He declared a belief in body-sharing with a goddess character (who represents the Sega Dreamcast in the series) by consulting with [[Magi-Chan]], then [[Chris and money|leaving his Dreamcast console powered on for 24 hours]] in order to focus his own psychic power onto it and pull the goddess into his body. Since then, Chris has come to believe that he's actually a goddess to the Sonichu universe, leading to the creation of the Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu.

{{quote|The Qur’an is to the Bible as Family Guy is to the Simpsons.|Chris,16 November 2021<ref>[[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021]]</ref>}}

As of [[December 2021]], Chris is in jail awaiting court hearings. His [[Jail Communications|letters from jail]] offer insight into his current beliefs. Upon booking, Chris was given a Bible and eventually allowed to purchase various other supplies from the commissary using fan donations. Among other items, these include two Turkish prayer rugs which Chris uses for warmth and for playing Solitaire on. [[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Kengle)|Kengle]] attempted to send him a Quran in an attempt to convert Chris to Islam, but it was rejected by the jail and Chris bought one from the commissary. He described it as "literally all over the place" and stated that Muslims are indirectly praying to Barb, as Allah was formed from a piece of her.

Despite spending nearly all his time alone in a jail cell, Chris claims to meditate 24/7/365+1 and have full access to the Akashic Records and that he can see into the past and future. He is able to visit alternate dimensions where all his cartoon characters live and he is accompanied by Magi-chan and Mewtwo, among others. Chris has been documenting his time in jail in his [[Jail Communications#Goddess Log|Goddess log]]. It contains insights from the Akashic Guardian but also a list of names and addresses of everyone who has written to him. Chris plans to release this after the Dimensional Merge, likely [[dox|doxing]] a lot of people.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (Stories from the Penitentiary)]]</ref>
[[File:11.8.21MailFantafront.jpeg|thumb|left|Holy Label sent to a Youtuber, bearing the NSC symbol.]]
From his jail cell, Chris passes judgement on various people from his life and decides whether they have passed their Divine Test. Kengle passed. [[Bella]] definitely failed by making the [[Incest call]] public. [[Dillin Thomas]] failed by confirming that Chris had said that he had sex with his mom. [[Null]] failed and is Chris's version of Judas. Chris feels betrayed by Null because Null tattled on him for breaking his EPO by stealing $750 from Barb, which Chris claims to have paid back. Ironically, Null is now selling [[Null#Allies again|silver coins]] bearing Chris's likeness.
[[File:Christ_chan.jpg|thumb|250px|An artist's interpretation.]]
Chris is producing [[Jail Letter Gifts|various holy items]] which he mails to people who write him respectful letters. These are made from his trash. One is a Neo Spiritual Christianity token, of uncertain purpose, made from the bottom of a styrofoam cup. In other letters, he has included blessed bottle labels from [[Fanta]] and [[Coca Cola]] bottles. These bear Chris's very long signature and his NSC logo, which is composed of a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_symbol standby symbol], combined with a Christian cross, a blue heart, and Sonichu's lightning bolts. The recipients are told to laminate these labels and wrap them around 20oz bottles for use with water and non-alcoholic beverages. They may laminate photocopies of their label for their spouse and children.

Some of Chris's letters have included [[Jail Letter - 6 December 2021|apocalyptic prophecies]], some of which he says are already happening. Neurotypical individuals will suddenly speak multiple languages, including ancient ones, and shall download into their brains massive amounts of knowledge from the Akashic Records. Their brains will overload and burn with fatigue, and they will appear to be schizophrenic. If you encounter one of these individuals, you should not interrupt them. Animals will speak, and humanoid animals will appear. For the record, apocalyptic prophecies [https://abhota.info/end5.htm usually are not accurate.]

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==Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu==

[[File:The Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu (DoCCS).jpg|thumb|TSSSF card dedicated to his loyal devotees.]]

Chris had some divine revelations, which he shared on 2 November 2019 in a series of tweets, these revelations are as follows<ref name="divinerev">[[November 2019 social media posts#Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu|Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu]]</ref>:

*He is the godess of the Sonichu/Rosechu species, and is of a higher deity level than a CPU.
*His powers are more apparent and potent in C-197, but do exist in 1218.
*The terms "CWCans" and "CWCanism" does not feel or sound fitting for his religion.
*FoCCS and FoCWCS do not sound appealing, either.
*Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu (DoCCS) is chosen. Pronounced [[dox]], like Chris's favorite pasttime.

And thus, Chris's [[true and honest]] religion, DoCCS, was born.

The DoCCS all share [[kindness]] and [[Vanessa AIM Chat 2|loyalty]], which is a defining figure of a devotee. They also pray to Chris, and channel energy to him so that he can use his godess powers. <s>Chris</s> [[Spirit possession#Sonichu|Sonichu]] has noted that it's far easier for <s>him</s> Chris to answer prayer in C-197, due to his additional power that he has access to in his Chris Chan Sonichu body.<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts#Chris body swaps with Sonichu to cope with missing BABScon|Mentioned here]], Sonichu says: "She is Now, literally, in the position to fully and actively take and answer your Prayers, as the Goddess that she is."</ref>

Chris can also store this energy in [[magic stones]], and often wears these around his neck with the Sonichu medallion.<ref>Sightings [[Analysis Anarchy Reaction Livestreams#TF2 Analysis Anarchy Red Vs Blue Part 2 Reaction Video|here]] and [[:File:July 2020 jewels.jpeg|here]], and many more.</ref> Chris used one of these stones to demonstrate his power, even in 1218, by [[PsychicPowers#Amethyst stone|dropping it with as little movement as possible]], which, when scaled up to C-197 proportions would equate to miraculous healing. Chris thinks that the crystals contain healing power and that they can make you happy.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Chris is all in on Healing Crystals|Twitter reply about healing crystals]]</ref>

===The First holy temple of DoCCS===

[[File:14bc June 2019.jpg|thumb|The illustrious temple of the Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu]]

In late 2019, the First holy temple of DoCCS was consecrated.<ref>[[:File:14 Branchland Court TSSSF card.jpeg|Temple's TSSSF card]]</ref> The temple has been a central in-between in traversing between this dimension (1218) and it's sister dimension (C-197). The whole property, including the gazebo and sheds have travelled back and forth from 1218 to C-197 many times. Unlike most temples, almost no DoCCS congregate there to worship, and instead the temple acts as private residence to their deity, Chris.

Upon reaching level 40 in Pokemon GO, Chris was able to put the temple forward for an additional consecration ceremony from Niantic (the creators of Pokemon GO) to become the truest and honestest PokeStop of them all, which he did on 20 August 2020. However, despite numerous efforts<ref>[[August 2020 social media posts#Sonichu levels up.21|First mention of the nomination.]]</ref><ref>[[August 2020 social media posts#CWCSonichu Temple is nominated|Further encouragement to aid the cause.]]</ref> to rally his devotees to help the nomination be accepted, his nomination was eventually denied.<ref>[[:File:PokeStop rejected.png|Nomination rejected.]]</ref>

The gazebo on the property contains magic power, and using deity level powers can be used as a vessel for a portal between the dimensions, and can transport items and even living things.<ref name="gazebo">[[:File:CWCs Temples Gazebo TSSSF.jpg|Information on this card]]</ref> Interestingly, in the TSSSF game, its card is a "Unicorn" card and can be in a relationship with Pony OCs,<ref name="gazebo"></ref> though this is probably due to Chris using the card game wrong, rather than him regarding his gazebo as a unicorn.

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== Doctrines of the Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu ==
[[File:BarneySatanism.jpeg|thumb|Chris addresses a theological dispute.]]
Chris's convictions (not [[Chris and the law|that kind]]) are a confused tangle, ever shifting as [[weens]] twist his malleable perception of reality and his mental state continues to deteriorate. The below seeks to describe Chris's contemporary beliefs as accurately as possible, though information is subject to change in light of new revelations at at any time. Chris has hesitated to describe his beliefs as a religion. On 13 [[April 2018]], Chris claimed in a Twitter post that he no longer follows a religion, yet he is neither "atheist" nor "satanist", and over a year later would describe what follows as "a belief and faith system, not a religion".<ref>[[Believe in the OCs and Deities!]]</ref>

===Uzume Possession===
Initially, sharing his body with a clone of the CPU Goddess Uzume Tennouboshi was critial to Chris's newfound religion. Naming the clone that resided within his body as "Orange Spiral Seal", Chris believed that he had "the powers of the four main Goddesses, as well as [his] own powers." In a way, this was a bizarre continuation of his classic [[Love Quest]]. Not only did he believe that he could create a new CPU Goddess From The Ground-Up, but that, with the CPU, he will bring [[Crystal]] into reality and create her as a CPU Goddess, saying that is something that GodJesus would never grant to him. Chris's religion has little in the way of ethics, but he [[August 2019 social media posts#No Pizza Time for Chris|has indicated]] that he believes in the Hindu concept of ''karma'', administered by himself, as an instrument of his vengeance against the [[jerkops]] who tormented him in years past.

===CPU Blue Heart===

{{main|CPU Blue Heart}}

On 16 June 2018,<ref name="CPUBHInfo">[[May 2019 social media posts#CPU One Year Anniversary|As mentioned here]]</ref> '''CPU Blue Heart''' (also known as '''Scarlett Celestia''')<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#New information on CPU Blue Heart|Name mentioned here]]</ref> came upon Chris and gave him her powers, making him CPU Blue Heart, goddess of comma nation, the Commodore consoles,<ref name="CPUBHInfo"></ref> Cwcville and all Sonichus and Rosechus,<ref name="divinerev"/> and everything else.{{refn|group="note"|Chris often suggests he is goddess of everything, since he asks people who aren't even Sonichus or Rosechus or in any of his provinces to pray to him. <ref name=psychiatrist>[[December 2018 social media posts#Chris.27s psychiatrist is taken aback|December 2018 post]]</ref>}} However, Chris only found out about this on the 3 August when his hubby Magi-chan told him.<ref>[[August 2018 social media posts#The Awakening of a CPU|Mentioned in this Twitter thread]]</ref> In the same way Chris had connected with his Dreamcast before, this time Chris connected with his [[Commodore 64]] to obtain her memories and soul.<ref>[[Sonichu 13#Transcript|Mentioned in the epilogue of Sonichu 13]].</ref> This possession has helped Chris develop his psychic and electric super powers, and helped the merge become closer as C-197s characters became more tangible in 1218. He also started feeling more energy surges and electricity flowing in him.<ref>[[:File:MergeComic4.jpg|Comic page with this information on]]</ref> Chris also felt long, loud belches as a result of the possession, which were obvious indicators of the impending merge, Chris was being given a lot of responsibility for the merge when he became CPU Blue Heart.<ref>[[:File:MergeComic5.jpg|Information here]]</ref> Chris also claims to be feeling heart attacks that he pulls himself back from,<ref>[[:File:MergeComic7.jpg|As mentioned on this comic page]]</ref> whilst these are obviously not [[Obesity|heart attacks]], they are certainly some sort of ongoing problem from Chris's [[health]], and these delusions are preventing him from getting the help he needs.

=== Worship ===

As late as [[August 2017]], Chris could be seen in a normal church, albeit irreverently wearing his [[unicorn cosplay]]. However, he has since stopped attending, believing that he is "unable to worship Jesus or any of the other deities" on virtue of being a goddess himself. In [[Believe in the OCs and Deities]], Chris appeals to his viewers to send positive thoughts to fictional characters, as though through telepathy, perhaps indicating that he believes divine power requires worship and oblations. (Implicit in this is Chris's long-standing secular belief that he has hundreds of millions of earnest followers across the globe.)

On 22 December 2018, in a long rant on Twitter about the [[Dimensional Merge Announcements|Merge]] (see the next section), Chris encouraged his audience to pray to him:

{{quote|I encourage Everyone to Keep Faith, and Pray to the CPUs, y’all may pray to me as well.|Chris, blaspheming<ref>[[December 2018 social media posts#Chris's psychiatrist is taken aback]]</ref>}}

He has made several such appeals in months since.

=== Afterlife and eschatology ===
Under the [[Idea Guys]]'s lingering influence, Chris believes that departed souls go to [[C-197]], the fictional universe that includes [[CWCville]], other [[Night Star|misbegotten OCs]] and various [[Chris and copyright|media franchises' universes]], which he believes objectively exist. He teaches that, upon death, one may merge with one's [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] counterpart there. Among those who have been depicted in their Sonichu form on the other side include disastrous German chancellor [[Nombie-zazis|Adolf Hitler]], serial killer and rapist [[Ted Bundy]] and Chris's late father, [[Bob Chandler]]. Only the truly wicked, such as [[Liquid Chris]], are denied this in the hereafter: Satan instead burns their bodies in 'hell's lava pool', purges them of their memories and sends their oblivious souls to be reincarnated.<ref>[[:File:Ibachandlercroppedsmaller.jpg|Solid Chris exhibits Liquid's fate, 2016]]</ref>

Since the autumn of [[2018]], Chris has taught that we are living in the latter days. From a mixture of off-hand comments by comic artists and several [[weens]] foddering him with misinformation and dumb inside jokes, Chris thinks that beginning in [[November 2018]], the real world (or 'Dimension 1218', as he calls it) is in the process of combining with C-197, in what he calls the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Chris has attributed miscellaneous events past and present, real and fictional, ranging from tragedies like the [[Twin Falling Towers|World Trade Centre's destruction]] to salad recalls,<ref>[https://archive.md/H3gJk Chris attributes the WTC attacks to the Merge, 28 October 2019]</ref> to the impending Merge. Originally projected to be complete before [[January 2019|New Year's 2019]], Chris maintains still that the Merge is just about the corner. Chris foretells massive destruction heralding the Merge that will result in the deaths of about half the world's population, as well as half of the fictional characters from C-197. [[Chris and his ego|Naturally]], Chris, being the goddess in charge of managing this brouhaha, will be spared: everyone else must take their chances. Survivors will be able to enjoy the company of their favorite cartoon characters in the flesh, as well as their deceased relatives transformed into Electric Hedgehog Pokémon.

=== Pantheon ===
{{main|Hyperdimension Neptunia}}
In [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Goddess Emanuelle|August 2016]], Chris revealed that he thinks of God as a goddess. Chris has long considered [[gal-pal|women]] to be good and [[jerks|men]] to be evil, and since Chris does not want to think of himself or God as evil, he simply swapped the genders in his mind, making [[Tomgirl]] Christine and Goddess Emmanuelle.<ref>[[Ben Saint - Chatting with Chris-Chan]]</ref> During a conversation with [[Joshua Wise]], Chris revealed that he had forsaken Christianity altogether, believing instead in the CPU Goddesses from the anime ''Hyperdimension Neptunia''.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A#Chris abandons Christianity for Neptunia]]</ref>

Chris's view of God's nature, is [[naïve]] and even childish. He has used the fandom jargon acronym <abbr title="Original character">''OC''</abbr> as a rough [[CWC-ism]] synonym for ''god'', and uses this broad category to include Christ, men respected but not worshipped in their own separate traditions like the Buddha, ancient pagan gods such as Zeus, the ''Neptunia'' CPU goddesses and other anime characters, himself and his viewers and lazy [[My Little Pony|ponysonas]]. He is extremely syncretic, believing all of these, including the latter categories of clearly fictional characters intended and universally understood as such, to be real and divine. Monotheism, the cornerstone of Christendom that cannot be compromised, was apparently never assimilated into Chris's thought processes, allowing him to continue regard Christ as ''a'' god. He claims to converse with, and be friends with, Jesus and ''several other deities''. Nonetheless, Chris does not worship literally everybody: in a 2019 Twitter post, he was alarmed by [[Jacob Sockness]]'s apparent Satanism, saying that "no one should ever worship [[Beel|Satan]]."<ref>[[:File:BarneySatanism.jpeg]]</ref>

===Concept of Emanuelle===
Chris first uses the term '''Emanuelle''' in a [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#tl;dr|Facebook post]] from August 2014, but it is not until [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Goddess Emanuelle|a post]] from two years later ("Oh, for Goddess', Emanuelle's, Sake!") that he explicitly uses the name to refer to a female deity and not simply as a typo for "[[wikipedia:Emanuel|Emanuel]]", a Christian name for God. Chris probably got the idea of a goddess Emanuelle from one of the feminist or lesbian Facebook pages which he followed at the time, but he took it to be a literal female deity instead of a joke. Somehow Chris held on to this concept throughout the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guy]] manipulations and incorporated it into his [[CPU Blue Heart|CPU goddess]] pantheon.

In his jail letters from 2021 Chris reverts to the Biblical spelling "Emanuel" (probably because that is the spelling he encounters in the Bible which he has been reading in jail) but continues to refer to the deity as female. Chris calls Emanuel "God above all other Gods and Goddesses" and claims that she encouraged him to [[Affair with Mother|fuck his mother]], a claim which he also makes in the [[Incest call]]. In [[Jail Letter - 3 October 2021|another letter]] Chris calls "Emanuel" his mother. Some took this to mean that Emanuelle was really [[Barbara]], but Chris explained in a [[Jail Letter - 20 October 2021#22 October|subsequent letter]] that "Emanuel and Barbara are two separate individuals and souls." In 2022 he further clarified that:
{{Quote|I have never ever said nor felt my mom, Barbara Anne Weston Chandler Rosechu, was a GOD of any sort, nor is she Emanuel, or even Virgin Mary reincarnated. If anything, Barbara is the reincarnation of Merlin the Magician. But Emanuel, GOD above Gods, Was my Father when I was born in Bethlehem over 2022 years ago. Emanuel had changed her gender to female in physicality and form over a century ago. Emanuel planted an ovum from her ovary into Barbara's ovary to attract me from my forward-and-back trip through Time after what happened with me in 1389 when the Universe was divided into my second physical birth on Febuary 24, 1982 into this immortal Body of mine; with that, Emanuel is my Mother. I still am Half-Sonichu, physically, due to my trip through the apex of the Chaotic Rainbow of 2003 between Sonichu Prime and Rosey Rosechu Prime. Remember Emanuel, herself, can change her physical form into ANY Creature, including a Sonichu form. Yet [[Arceus]], the First, Main one, was manifested from a piece of her.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>}}

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:IsThisMyBodyorYoursCard.jpg|thumb|200px|When you're a headmaster, the possibilities are endless]]
Chris has said that he's open to the idea of reincarnation, common in Hinduism and other Eastern religions. In 2009 he stated flatly that he believed in the concept,<ref>[[Mailbag 21#Chris gets a call from The Doctor]]</ref> but in 2014 he seemed more uncertain, writing “It is possible, but I'm not sure.”<ref name=lvlup/>. He has yet to offer any criteria for what might cause someone to be reincarnated. While reincarnation was and to some extent is still embraced by a few Christian sects, Chris has nothing to do with them and seems to have lifted the notion from [[anime|somewhere else]].

Chris has suggested that he is himself a reincarnation of various people. In [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']], Chris's [[Comic Chris|fictional counterpart]] is the reincarnation of the [[ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]], though he does not appear to believe this about himself in real life. However, during the epilogue of [[Sonichu 12#Episode 26: Prideful|''Sonichu'' Episode 26]], Chris mentions a real-world dream in which he discovered he had been a (true and honest) [[Homos|lesbian]] hippie who attended {{w|Woodstock}} in a recent past life. He credits this dream with his realization that he is a "female soul" and decision to identify as a transsexual as opposed to a [[Tomgirl|cross-dresser]], further calling the psychological validity of his gender identity into question. Besides his own reincarnation, Chris's explanation of [[Liquid Chris#In the comic|what happened to Liquid Chris]] in the ''Sonichu'' canon mentions Liquid's soul being cleared of all memory of previous incarnations before being reincarnated, as what Chris considers an ironic punishment for someone who dared impersonate him.

Chris believes that in other [[dimensions]], people have the innate ability to swap bodies with others, even inanimate robots.

In a [[Jail Letter - 30 November 2021 (Eels and the Egg-man)|jail letter direct to Eels and the Eggman]], Chris claims that as the Messiah, he can reincarnate or "Respawn" infinitely many times, and retain memory of all prior lives. He states in [[Jail Letter - 9 December 2021|another letter]] that only a few people besides him have an inate ability to reincarnate.

==Neo Spiritual Christianity==

{{See also|Neo Spiritual Christianity}}

Neo Spiritual Christianity (spelled without a hyphen) is Chris's self-proclaimed term for his peculiar set of beliefs concerning [[reality]] and faith, developed while confined in [[jail]] after being exposed to the Bible.

This new belief system combines aspects of Protestant Christianity with his preexisting beliefs originating in {{w|Theosophy}}, the {{w|New Age}}, [[superstition]], and the [[Dimensional Merge]].

===Cosmology===
[[Chris]] believes that he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and that [[Barb]] is the reincarnation of {{w|Merlin the Magician}}. He believes that his [[Affair with Mother]] constitutes a "soul cleansing" operation designed to heal and purify her.

Justified by his belief that he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, Chris "upgrades" Christianity to Neo Spiritual Christianity and created a new Ten Commandments that serve in part as a statement of {{w|secular humanist}} beliefs, although Chris upholds the prohibition on blasphemy and the observance of the Sabbath:

{{quotebox|
Updated Ten Commandments (Amendments)

by Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu. October 14, 2021

<nowiki>*</nowiki>1- Thou may have and worship one or multiple Gods, Goddesses, and Demi-Gods, or even none at all; which ever best feels well and good with thee.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>2- Thou may make for yourself an Idol that is safe and good and blessed; thou must not make for yourself an Idol that is harmful, toxic, or demonic to you or anyone else.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>3- Thou must not misuse the name of the Lord your God, or any other God, Goddess, or Demi-God; "God Damn It" shall be most punishable as well.

4- Remember to observe the Sabbath day (Sunday) by keeping itHoly [sic].

5- Honor thy father, mother, and any or all legal guardians who have helped greatly in your raising and support.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>6- [[Wedding Comic|Thou must not murder]], nor commit, or helpanother [sic] to commit, suicide, regardless of circumstances.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>7- Adultry is okay, well, and good, as long as all involved are direct, open, and honest with each other; thou must not commit adultry in secret from thy partner(s).

8- [[Simonla|Thou must not steal]].

<nowiki>*</nowiki>9- Thou must not testify falsely against thy neighbor, or anyone, nor testify without prior knowledge of the greater contexts and truths of the circumstances and details.

10- Thou must not covet thy neighbor's belongings.}}

The remainding cosmology of Neo Spiritual Christianity syncretizes predominantly Christian beliefs with a belief in the Akashic Records originating in Theosophy, various New Age spiritual concepts, and his preexisting belief in the Dimensional Merge and alternative universes.

==Chris and other faiths==
Given his sheltered existence in the heart of the suburban American South, Chris probably hasn't had much direct exposure to anything but mainstream brands of Protestantism. When his "fans" asked him for his feelings on other religions during an [[IRC (28 December 2008)|IRC chat]], he glossed over the question and simply reiterated his own unthinking statement of faith. At other times, his comments have been scattered and inconsistent.

===Other Christian denominations===
Chris has no connection to Catholicism, which he seems to regard as a benign but alien practice. In his comics, he assigns it to a minor character, [[Angelica Rosechu]], whose faith doesn't practically differentiate her from the rest of the inhabitants of [[CWCville]] – she's still as much of a slut as the rest of her [[Rosechu (species)|species]]. Through Angelica, it is obvious that Chris knows almost nothing about Catholicism and seems to think it's just a variety of Protestantism with nuns – he refers to Catholic priests as [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Angelica_Rosechu|"pastors"] and almost certainly doesn't know the Catholic Bible is different from the one generally used by Protestants. Also, Angelica's home congregation is called "Samuel Memorial United Christian Church," which is about the least likely name for a Roman Catholic church Chris could have come up with. He does, at least, realise that Catholicism is a form of Christianity, although he probably has no idea what its relationship to Protestantism is.

[[PandaHalo]]'s persona was designed to be devoutly Roman Catholic specifically to confound Chris's desire for pre-marital sex with contraception. Faced with this challenge, Chris tried to argue that God really does allows premarital sex because his pastor said so (ironically, deference to a cleric on ethical matters is far more typical for Catholics than Protestants). It didn't even occur to Chris that what his pastor said to him wouldn't apply to a Catholic, because Chris is incapable of seeing things from perspectives besides his own.

Chris has described "{{w|Mormonism|Mormans}}" [sic] as not being datable.<ref>[[MySpace messages]]</ref> He has never explained why, but he may have learned through [[Anna McLerran]] that Mormons typically don't date non-Mormons.

While it is not clear how much Chris knows about {{w|Unitarianism|Unitarianism}} (likely not a lot), he is not hostile toward that sect; [[Jackie]] identified herself as a Unitarian,<ref>[[Jackie#Profile]]</ref> and Chris was not bothered by this (conceivably because he didn't know what it was).<ref>[[Jackie E-mails]]</ref>

Given that he takes his own religion ''à la carte'', Chris is likely unaware of most of the differences between the sects of Protestantism, and the relationship between Protestantism and other kinds of Christianity. He has never been pressed for comment on Eastern variants of Christianity, such as the Eastern Orthodox church, and it is uncertain what he thinks of these sects, or if he's even aware of their existence.

===Other religions===
''See also: [[Chris and race#Jews|Chris and race]]''

Most of Chris's opinions towards non-Christian faiths have been culled from ''[[South Park]]'' and other television series. For example, on 28 [[December 2009]], Chris wrote a blog entry telling [[Jack Thaddeus]] to get out of the closet and "Go Into F***ing Scientology".<ref>[[CWC Blog]]</ref> Following this comment, Chris was asked to elaborate his thoughts on Scientology; he said that he neither agrees with it nor disapproves of it.<ref>[[Mailbag 52#Master of diplomacy at work|Mailbag 52]]</ref>

"[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]], and [[Sonichu 11]]" reveal that Chris has a somewhat basic awareness of {{w|Judaism}}, probably picked up from watching ''[[South Park]]''. He appears to not understand that Jews and {{w|Buddhism|Buddhists}} don't celebrate [[Christmas]], at least not the religious aspects of it. However, in the way he wrote it, it is unknown if he's implying that Christians, [[Hanukkah|Jews]] and [[Christmas#Jolly Buddah (sic)|Buddhists]] go to the same place of worship, or if he's saying they go to separate places of worship and calls them "churches" because his vocabulary is heavily lacking.{{refn|group="note"|Chris has even referred to what was most likely a synagogue as a "Jewich [sic] Church".<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 13#09-02-27]]</ref>}} In [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]], Chris uses "Jew" as an insult (which he also got from ''South Park'') and states he is "just throwing it out there" that he thinks Snyder is Jewish; he incidentally subscribes to his father's view that Snyder, [[Megan Schroeder]] and others were secretly directing the [[trolls]] to ruin Chris's life. [[Some Favored Comedians]] is a thinly-veiled furious backpedaling attempt in which he rambles on and on about how he respects Jewish comedians like [[Seinfeld|Jerry Seinfeld]].

{{Wise|Islam is the place to go to for exorcising lustful demons; mainly by someone [[Bluespike| shoving a medallion into Chris's ass]] while shouting "Allahu Ackbar!}}

In a CWCipedia [[Chris-Chan (CWCipedia)#Chris-Chan the Moralf**|article]], he hints at a hatred of Islam. Although the article primarily exists to deny various accusations trolls have made about him, he does not deny being a "prolific hater of all things not Christian".<ref>[[Chris-Chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref> Years later, in a [[Jail Letter - 3 October 2021|letter from jail]] Chris responded to an [[Weens|apparent attempt to convert him to Islam]] by stating, "Allah is a good God, yes, but even he has his imperfection [sic], and concerns over his followers, and Nationality of Islam" and that "Islam contains a total population that includes around 40% of Toxic Haters, Fakers, and Sinners within it"<ref>[[Jail Letter - 3 October 2021]]</ref> (for comparison the base rate of "Toxics" in the global population is only about 18%).<ref>[[Jail Letter - 6 December 2021]]</ref> Chris's obsessive fan [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] is a Muslim convert; Chris tolerates his religious beliefs but has become annoyed with Kenneth's repeated attempts to convert him to Islam.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 6 December 2021]]</ref>

Besides using the popular Western image of the [[Buddha belly|fat Buddha]] (actually a [[China|Chinese]] monk) and mentioning "Buddha" a few times, Chris has never shown any knowledge of traditional East Asian religions, let alone any opinion of them. Indeed, [[Vivian Gee]]'s belief in {{w|Taoism}} seemed to be a concept he couldn't process, and even seemed to make him uneasy.<ref name=vivian>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>

===New Age===
The {{w|New Age}} is an umbrella term referring to a variety of {{w|new religious movements}} and alternative spiritual practices originating in the Western world during the 1960s, whose practitioners are referred to as New Agers. These practices include various forms of prayer and meditation conducted along a multitude of cosmologies combined with various pseudosciences such as astrology and alternative medicine. New Age beliefs often encourage [[magical thinking]], which only serve to reenforce Chris's beliefs in his supposed divinity. Unlike most other religions, New Age worship does not typically occur in organized places of worship and instead takes place at home or within for-profit storefronts.

New Age worship practices frequently incorporate yoga and other [[exercise]] routines. Considering Chris's poor physical [[health]] and attitudes towards [[exercise]], Chris will never do this. Period.

Chris has affirmed his belief in various forms of New Age practices in the past, all of which were syncretized with forms of Christianity and his own beliefs in the [[Dimensional Merge]]. Chris has performed [[tarot]] readings, believed in [[magic stones]], and [[meditation|meditated]] in the hopes of achieving astral projection.

===Theosophy===
{{w|Theosophy}} is a minority religion founded in the 19th century. An adherent of Theosophy is known as a Theosophist and believers worship at Theosophical Societies. Members of Theosophy predominantly consist of converts to the faith, rather than family-based groups.

Chris has been influenced by Theosophy in his affirmation of the {{w|Akashic Records}}, mentioned in various jail letters to fans. Owing to the religion's denial of free will, the Akashic Records are believed to be a flawless compendium of all thoughts, actions, and words spoken by all human beings in the past, present, and future. Theosophists believe that they can access the Akashic Records to "heal past wounds, lift pain and past issues, and find a higher expression for [their] [lives]."

The origin of Chris's belief in the existence of the Akashic Records is unknown. However, Chris appears to incorporate every spiritual or supernatural concept (regardless of whether it is intended to be religious or purely fictional) he finds into a bizarre pantheon of spirituality.

===Atheism===
{{quote|But... I would certainly not want to be an atheist, 'cause if I don't have [[GodJesus|God or Jesus]] at my- by my side, I would be more lost than I was considerably beforehand! Atheists are the [[Beel|Devil]]'s spawning, as it would seem! ...And I would certainly would not want to be amrong- amongst them when they are run out of town with the pitchforks and the [[Chris and English|hace]] and the fire! As a believer... I would either be a [[Chris and Anger|peacem- I would more likely be a peacemaker]], but I certainly [[Chris and Hypocrisy|wouldn't mind being one with the pitchfork]], following the crowd and pushing the atheist out of town!|Chris|[[Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy|ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy]]}}
Chris's opinion of the irreligious is the most vacillating and incoherent, and incidentally one of the best documented. [[Ruckersville, VA|Unsurprisingly]], he doesn't seem to like or trust atheists, but even there, he has a hard time articulating his opinion. When Vivian asked him to explain why he dislikes them, he said, "I don't know, but I do know that they are not believers of God and Jesus."<ref name=vivian/> When Chris [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada‎|exposed Thorg]], his reasoning for wanting people to troll Thorg instead of him devolve from "because he's trolling me" to "because he's an 'evil' atheist". In his [[Calling Out]] videos, Chris gave "pizza-faced atheist" as [[Thorg]]'s defining characteristic, with a heretofore unseen vitriol. Chris's half-brother [[Cole Smithey]] is also an atheist, although his opinion on this is unclear.<ref>[[Cole Smithey E-mails]]</ref>

In the [[List of OkCupid Answers|OkCupid]] answers, Chris stated that he would not date an atheist. On the other hand, [[The Wallflower]] told Chris in one of her e-mails that she had no religion,<ref>[[Wallflower E-mails]]</ref>, and as the rest of the correspondence shows, Chris was not bothered by her lack of faith and [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|continued to pursue her]]. However, in his later, revised [[List of OkCupid Answers|OkCupid]] account, he states (to the surprise of nobody) that he would be willing to date an atheist if it meant he had a chance at some [[Chris and sex|hanky panky]].

==Notes==
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==References==
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==See also==
*[[Angelica Rosechu]]
*[[Dreams]]
*[[Christmas]]
*[[Christian's name change|GodBear]]
*[[Grace Baptist Church]]
*[[Jail Letter - 22 December 2021]], in which Chris gives his "Updated Ten Commandments."
*[[Messiah complex]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac]]
*[[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]]

==External links==
*[http://store.engrish.com/products/god-jesus-t-shirt Buy your own GodJesus T-shirt here]
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Talk:Post-jail sightings (2023)

2023-05-04T17:11:50Z

Jimmy747: /* Common Name */

== Walmart ==

To prevent from having to keep two pages synced in edits, we should decide whether the [[Mal-Wart]] article or this one will be the main one to hold the sighting info on the Midlothian Walmart. Whichever article doesn't can just be given a small summary with a "main article" direct. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:28, 2 May 2023 (EDT)
: i think we should put all sightings of chris while chris is offline in the chase article. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 10:05, 3 May 2023 (EDT)

==Common Name==
I'm seeing a lot more references online to Chris' status as a cryptid, with a focus on "sightings" of him. I think something like "Cryptid Era" would be more appropriate and recognizable. I think the current setup of the page, for one, has too many Doctor Who references and "The Chase" gives the impression that people are or should be actively seeking Chris out. Even with the disclaimer, it's not the way we should be framing this, to my mind. [[User:BieresDeLaMeuse|BieresDeLaMeuse]] ([[User talk:BieresDeLaMeuse|talk]]) 12:55, 4 May 2023 (EDT)
: I think "bigfoot" works a bit better, owing to the one picture of him, and the fact that it's a bit more specific. Plus, Chris kind of resembles a large bulbous ape-human. Also, I think it's too early to name a new Christorical era, and we should keep this confined to a saga. [[User:Jimmy747|Jimmy747]] ([[User talk:Jimmy747|talk]]) 13:33, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

Talk:Post-jail sightings (2023)

2023-05-04T17:11:01Z

Jimmy747: /* Common Name */

== Walmart ==

To prevent from having to keep two pages synced in edits, we should decide whether the [[Mal-Wart]] article or this one will be the main one to hold the sighting info on the Midlothian Walmart. Whichever article doesn't can just be given a small summary with a "main article" direct. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:28, 2 May 2023 (EDT)
: i think we should put all sightings of chris while chris is offline in the chase article. [[User:BootlegsATrolley|BootlegsATrolley]] ([[User talk:BootlegsATrolley|talk]]) 10:05, 3 May 2023 (EDT)

==Common Name==
I'm seeing a lot more references online to Chris' status as a cryptid, with a focus on "sightings" of him. I think something like "Cryptid Era" would be more appropriate and recognizable. I think the current setup of the page, for one, has too many Doctor Who references and "The Chase" gives the impression that people are or should be actively seeking Chris out. Even with the disclaimer, it's not the way we should be framing this, to my mind. [[User:BieresDeLaMeuse|BieresDeLaMeuse]] ([[User talk:BieresDeLaMeuse|talk]]) 12:55, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

I think "bigfoot" works a bit better, owing to the one picture of him, and the fact that it's a bit more specific. Plus, Chris kind of resembles a large bulbous ape-human. Also, I think it's too early to name a new Christorical era, and we should keep this confined to a saga. [[User:Jimmy747|Jimmy747]] ([[User talk:Jimmy747|talk]]) 13:33, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

Jail Call - 10 January 2022

2023-04-11T00:16:39Z

Jimmy747: /* Transcript */

{{JesusPossession}}

{{Protip|The caller of this phone call is attempting to give money to Chris in jail. No matter how good your intentions may be, ''do not do this for any reason''.}}

On 10 January 2022, Chris made a '''call from jail''' to the Onion Farms user '''Zombo'''.

Some highlights of this call include:

* Chris briefly talks about how global warming is a sign of the end times.
* Chris attempts to give parenting advice for the caller regarding how he can help his son during the [[COVID-19]] pandemic, with reference to [[My Little Pony]].
* The caller talks about plans to send Chris money.
* In addition, Chris tells him to contact [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] by making an account on the Onion Farms.

==The Call==

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===Transcript===
'''Recording:''' Press 1 to receive incoming call.

'''Zombo:''' Mm.

'''Recording:''' Press 2...

'''Recording:''' If you would like to...

'''Recording:''' Thank you for using Securus. You may start the conversation now.

'''Zombo:''' [''coughs''] Hey, good afternoon Christine. How you doin' today?

[''Chris is inaudible.'']

'''Zombo:''' Oh yeah, goin' through it?

[''Chris is inaudible.'']

'''Zombo:''' Good. I'm doin' okay, um, December was a bit of a rough month. Um... had a few deaths, people I know, just- in rapid succession, so I've kind of been depressed, but... um, y'know I'm just tryin' to, tryin to stay positive.

[''Chris is inaudible at first but gradually becomes louder.'']

'''Chris:''' ...C-197 on that earth... or otherwise, if that was unavailable, your souls get reincarnated and you're somebody else on... part of the C-197 earth at this point, because we don't have much time left on this one. I mean, I even heard on the radio about more and more [[COVID-19|children getting inf- infected]], so that's an obvious sign right there. And another one-

'''Zombo:''' Yeah.

'''Chris:''' I also heard this on the radio recently, that, apparently, uh, it got so warm [[honor roll|up in the Antarctic]], not only are the ice caps and bodies of ice melting, but, for the very first time, they recorded regular, not freezing, REGULAR RAIN.

'''Zombo:''' You know, I've heard that too, and I'm, um, I've been hearing that for years, there's actually, in like the North Pole there's like warm spots where it's like green grass and stuff.

'''Chris:''' Well, that- that does not surprise me too much.

'''Zombo:''' It's kinda crazy, ain't it? Everyone knows what's going on, but nobody's willing to, you know, give it any attention.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, it makes a lot more- to just, quote, "global warning" is the divine event. Of course, with, uh, Judgment Day on those left behind, and the collective shift and all that. [''Inaudible''] Uhm. You'll have to tell me about your son. How's he doing?

'''Zombo:''' Uhm, he's doing good. He's currently in the other room doing some schoolwork.

'''Chris:''' Oh, well that's good. Uhm. Virtual, or is he allowed to attend school?

'''Zombo:''' It's- it's in person. Yeah, they- they stopped doing the virtual. They're startin' to kind of get more relaxed with all the Covid restrictions, it's kind of interesting. They just- I just got an email yesterday saying instead of, y'know, ten days of quarentine now it's only five. So I don't know what the difference- why it changed but they're starting to, I don't know, not care as much I guess.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.. Uh.. On the one hand, yeah but on another, things are becoming more lax. But it's also, I have heard about on the radio, other schools just- y'know they were flip-flopping between the-

'''Zombo:''' Yeah.

'''Chris:''' The in-person and going back or being virtual [''Unintelligible'']

'''Zombo:''' So, yeah, we did that I- I sent, for all of fourth grade my son did virtual and he didn't learn a thing. It didn't- he's only in fourth grade, you can imagine they're just on YouTube. Kids aren't- And I'm one of the few, rare people who are able to work from home so my son was actually schooling from home right next to me and I was able to watch him. And he still got off task so much that his grades just absolutely plummeted. So, they need to figure out a better way other than just Zoom meetings. But, y'know, right now we don't really have much of a choice, I can't have him school from home so I have to send him, y'know, to the physical school. But if there was a way for him to school from home with it being affective still, I would probably do that.

'''Chris:''' Yeah. Well, one thing I can definitely offer, since you were able to observe your son, and that's actually a good advantage point on your part. You can actually talk with him and- and figure out how does best learn for himself.

'''Zombo:''' Right.

'''Chris:''' I mean- To just to offer comparison, look at the episode of "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" Testing Testing, 1, 2, 3, where Rainbow Dash was about to get tested to be to be entered into The Wonderbolts. But she was- but she just had no knowledge. They had to figure it out through the, uh, the various learning and teaching methods, and then they found that Rainbow Dash can learn for herself by being up in the sky, looking down on Earth- on everything.

'''Zombo:''' Yeah, that's actually a great. Uhm. That's a great point that's absolutely true. My son ,uhm, didn't respond well to video learning. Uhm, I think most kids kinda struggled with it but he in particular was too distracted, so.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, that makes sense.

'''Zombo:''' Uhm, more- yeah, more of a physical thing is probably the best for now.

'''Chris:''' Physical things, yeah.

'''Zombo:''' But I was actually just getting ready to send out a letter to you because I missed your last couple of phone calls and I wanted to make sure that you didn't think I was blowin' ya off.

'''Chris:''' Uh, I appreciate that. Oh, but let me back- let me backtrack a moment. Well, I did want to check in with you and help you do better but, uh, but the big reason why I'm calling is because, presently, my inmate account is LOW on money. And I just checked it [''Unintelligible''] has eleven cents in it.

'''Zombo:''' Uh oh.

'''Chris:''' And my phone account has less than ten dollars in it right now so I got to be careful with, uh, how long I stick on the phone. [''Unintelligible''] Well, I need to get more money in and I saw on recent days that they weren't able not access the CVRJ website here so that's that on the [''Unintelligible'']

'''Zombo:''' Okay.

'''Chris:''' Alright, so what you can do for me, uh, in addition to you going on the website and then you donate on like twenty or fifty bucks from your own card and help me out a little. And another thing is-

'''Zombo:''' Sure. Yeah, I can do that.

'''Chris:''' Yeah. Is that you can also go onto OnionFarms. Contact [[Other enablers|Kenneth Engelhardt]], send him the link. After you've confirmed it for yourself just tell him [''Unintelligible''] site's back up. You can go there, you can donate money to Christine again.

'''Zombo:''' Sorry, give me one second here. What was the name you just said?

'''Chris:''' Oh. Alright, well I said that you can tell Kenneth. Engelhardt.

'''Zombo:''' Can you spell that for me?

'''Chris:''' Uh. K, E, N, N, E, T, H, E, N, G, L, E, H, A, R, D, T.

'''Zombo:''' Alright, and what was the website you said?

'''Chris:''' Onion. Farms.

'''Zombo:''' Onion Farm? Is that OnionFarm.com?

'''Chris:''' Uhm. You might want to Google that 'cause I don't know a way to backtrack, it's literally OnionFarms.com

'''Zombo:''' Okay.

'''Chris:''' Because, I'm sure that KiwiFarms in comparison is not OnionFarms.com.

'''Zombo:''' M'kay. I've never heard of that site but I'll certainly see what I can figure out to help you out. And I can absolutely give you some money for your books.

'''Chris:''' Yes, I appreciate that. Alright, then yeah, go on the CVRJ website, maybe Google that first make sure you have the right link.

'''Zombo:''' So, yeah, I'll definitely do that. Let me see if I can bring it on here. CVRJ.com just to test it out while we're on the phone here. So I was tryna do this before and of course this site wasn't working but, uhm. So do I just look you up by name and- and will it show up? Is that how it works?

'''Chris:''' Y'know I don't know how it is because I don't have a computer in front of me, obviously.

'''Zombo:''' Yeah, yeah. Okay, well I can always- I can always maybe just call up there and have them tell me the specifics.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, they- yeah that's an idea but I feel that it's more common sense th- they got a like, oh, a link where you can donate to an inmate. You can look up the inmate by their name, obviously.

'''Zombo:''' M'kay. Yeah, and I wasn't sure- Yeah, so, yeah okay. I was trying to do that before but the site was down, so that's- yeah that clears it up. It looks like the site- if it's CBRJ it looks like it might still be down I just tried it while we were sit-in' here.

'''Chris:''' Hm.

'''Zombo:''' Let me try this again, let me put my phone down here.

'''Chris:''' Yep. Try Googling it.

'''Zombo:''' Yeah that's what I'm gonna do here. (typing noises) CBRJ, is that it?

'''Chris:''' Yeah. Or, y'know, the full terminology is Central Virginia Regional Jail.

'''Zombo:''' Oh, C -V- RJ. Duh, I'm a dork.

'''Chris:''' Why? Did you think I said C -B-?

'''Zombo:''' I did, yeah. Ohh okay, yeah. Wait, hang on here. "CVRG is for sale"? Uh, Oh. Alright, I'm doing a classic search here. I just want to make sure I'm lookin' up the right place to make sure I'm not sending the wrong person the money.

'''Chris:''' Type the word. Type in there Central. Virginia. Regional. Jail.

'''Zombo:''' Alright I just typed that in here. Let me see here... CVRJ...Hm.. They're not making this easy. There's the link...But it's not working. It looks like it's- it's just a white page, it's not doing anything. It-it might. Well if it comes back up, I'll keep trying it and I'll put some money on your books, I'll give you like fifty bucks.

'''Chris:''' Yeah, I appreciate that- [''Unintelligible'']

'''Zombo:''' And- and if I can't get on this website you said money orders are also accepted? Can I send a money order in your name?

'''Chris:''' Oh yes. You can send me via US sail- US mail- Uh, postal money orders or a cashier's check from your bank account.

'''Zombo:''' Okay. So yeah, I'll absolutely help you out and, uhm, if I don't get on the site t-, uh, tomorrow I'll send it in the mail and you'll get it either way.

'''Chris:''' Ahkay. And yeah, definitely recommend that you get in contact with Kenneth Engelhardt on Onion Farms. He's a decent guy- he's a decent guy, a good person for the most part. Even though he may have qualms at times, he's more of a neutral good.

'''Zombo:''' M'kay well I mean if he's doin' alright by ya, I trust him. I mean, I don't know- you've, you've kind of befriended some of the people who, y'know used to run the websites and stuff so.

'''Chris:''' Yeah. Yeah, it didn't work out so well or they didn't- they slowly betrayed me obviously.

'''Zombo:''' Pieces of shit, yeah.

'''Chris:''' Yeah.

'''Zombo:''' Pardon my French.

'''Chris:''' [''Unintelligible'']

'''Zombo:''' *Laughs* M'kay, um, so funnily enough, you wanna know something weird? Um, right after we started talking, your videos started getting recommended to me on youtube. It's so weird, it's like after we had our first phone call, y- like, that was the only time, even though I had already watched a metric shitton of videos about you on that other channel. Like, now your videos are starting to get on my recommended *laughs*.

'''Chris:''' [''Unintelligible'']

'''Zombo:''' Yeah, that algorithm's got me pegged, haha.

'''Chris:''' [''Unintelligible'']

'''Zombo:''' So how's everything else been going for you, other than, y'know, the troubles of, obviously being stuck in there?

'''Chris:''' Oh, well everything th- everything metaphysically and inter-dimensionally and all that's working out, and, just- I've been- My body and I, we've been working it out

{{Transcript}}

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