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Chris and money

2019-12-11T19:02:17Z

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[[File:Cwcshutup.png|thumb|Chris's response to literally any commercial.]]

{{quote|I'd call a tow truck, but now I have less than $20 between the bank accounts and PayPal.|Chris, after his car broke down on the way home from BronyCon.<ref>[[Waiting for the tow truck]]</ref>}}

{{quote|He's [[Chris and mathematics|not good at math]] when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>}}

Chris has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Piss_and_burn_fb.PNG</ref> to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Autism|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.

==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==
For the vast majority of Chris's "adult" life, his only source of income has been the "[[tugboat]]" that he receives from the U.S. federal government every month. In 2009, the payout was $809 a month, placing his annual income at $9,708. After Bob's death, Chris was given a survivor's benefit – increasing the amount to $1,300 per month and making his annual income $15,600. Barb's income, from Social Security and a pension, is around $1,200 per month.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/11-24-14-leaked-text-may-we-borrow-your-house.6140/page-2#post-416099</ref>

Chris's parents originally took $450 to pay for room and board;<ref name="Miyamoto" /> this payment was later increased to $565, and then to $580, after Bob paid off Chris's enormous credit card debt.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#8 December]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 8]]</ref> The rest of the tugboat generally goes towards [[List of Chris's games|video games]], [[McDonald's|junk food]], or [[sex toys|other frivolous purchases]]. However, $229 per month (about $7.50 per day) was (and is) nowhere near enough to satisfy Chris's need for electronic entertainment, pornography, [[PlayStation Network]] downloads, a constant supply of [[McDonald's|Chicken McNuggets]], gallons of [[Coke]], and, since the summer of [[2009]], [[alcohol]]. As of [[January 2010]], he owed roughly $3,500 in credit card debt, some on cards of his own and some on cards he stole from his parents. Indeed, according to one of his bank statements,<ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010.jpg]]</ref><ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg]]</ref> at the end of one month he had fewer than $3 left in his account. Even more, just by straight spending and no other extra income, he put himself $452.57 in the red. How much he gets to keep these days isn't known.

{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. Yet with my impuslive [sic] shoppiness [sic] (mostly controable [sic]), I end up spending my side-money after I get it.|Chris, [[Chris and His Ego|completely deluded and taking pride in being a lazy bastard]].<ref name="Miyamoto">[[Miyamoto Saga]]</ref>}}

===Chris and impulse spending===
It's obvious that Chris has no grasp on the real value of money, since he actively wastes as much of his monthly tugboat as possible on things like [[The Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[List of Chris's video games|video games]], [[alcohol]], [[Kaka Makeup Basics|make-up]], [[Lego|toys]], [[Mia Hamm|prostitutes]] and weekly lottery tickets.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 12]]</ref>

Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer.<ref name="Miyamoto" /> His [[PlayStation Network]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' single [[PlayStation 3]] game that he's ever purchased, and even for ''games he doesn't own'', and he also further promoted his [[Chris and brand loyalty|Sony fanboyism]] by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely cost about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris bought his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores. Usually, children are taught the value of money at a very young age – not in Chris's case, apparently.

In September [[2013]], Chris complained about he and his mom going through "emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By", making it clear that the family income had dipped since Bob's passing. However, these supposedly lean times were apparently not enough to motivate Chris to get a job, or even to stop buying games, as evidenced by him racking up over $1,000 in game purchases on ''The Simpsons: Tapped Out''.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-spending-on-iphone-games.2035/</ref>

Throughout the summer of 2014, Chris continued to spend thousands of dollars on [[Lego]] and other frivolities, all while whining and complaining on Facebook about his and his mother's poor finances. Chris financed this spending primarily with money from selling custom arts and crafts on his eBay account. Offering free shipping to customers, Chris would receive money from customers, and then pay for shipping out of his own pocket. However, Chris would immediately spend money as soon as it was deposited into his account, often leaving him unable to ship products to customers who had already paid him because of his own financial irresponsibility and negligence.

When several of Chris's eBay customers filed complaints against him because Chris failed to ship a order as promised and obligated, Chris responded by harassing and trolling the customers, posting their personal information in a public post on his Facebook account. In light of this, Chris's future money making prospects from eBay are dim, as most prospective future customers probably wouldn't want to risk being harassed or scammed by Chris.

All the while, even as Chris's credit card debt continued to spiral out of control, Chris continued to buy thousands of dollars of video games, Lego, and other frivolities. As if this were not bad enough, just days after putting his and Barb's cars up for sale (at exorbitant prices), Chris went out and bought a 2010 Ford Focus, stating on Facebook that he had been approved for a loan, probably at a high interest rate. He also stated that paying for insurance on his new car was "killing" him, implying that either the insurance payment was costly, that he was having trouble paying it, or both.

In January 2015, it was [[CWCki Forums|leaked]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, racking up '''585''' transactions in the last 4.5 years,<ref>http://kiwifarms.net/threads/2015-jan-12-nintendo-employee-details-chriss-recent-video-game-purchases.7050/</ref> a list which includes useless shovelware, hoards of 1st-party Nintendo software, Virtual Console games and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he doesn't even like]]. 276 of these purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (buying '''4''' DSs and DSis), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind 39% of purchases Chris has on his account are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high number. This information comes on the heels of Chris begging people for money to fix his mother's cavities, as well as the financial worries that his trials will undoubtedly cause.

In [[July 2016]], a field agent provided the following account of Chris, in a painfully awkward situation where he did not have enough cash to pay for his junk food at a gas station:<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-601#post-1615438</ref>

{{quotebox|My friend walks into a gas station/convenience store on the northern edge of Charlottesville.
Chris is trying to buy $7 or so of junk food type stuff, but he only has $5 in cash.
The cashier tries to make understand he owes $2 more. Chris seems to understand, but is slow to process what to do about it.
My friend who is second in line, picks out two ones, says "here you go" and puts them on the counter.
Chris, it seems more out of stupidity and confusion than malice, picks up the $2 and his purchases and makes to leave.
My friend and the cashier, both object and yell that he has to leave the $2 with the cashier.
Chris doesn't seem to react.
A dude who was behind both of them in line is between Chris and the door. As Chris passes him, he taps him to get his attention, and says something like "Hey buddy ..."
Chris makes a get-away-from-me hand wavy gesture without looking at any of the three of them, and fairly loudly says "It's Miss!" and hurries out the door.
Chris continues to his car in a half run, half walk, as all three of the people in the store watch confused and amused.
Chris pulls out of the parking spot, but for some reason heads towards the back of the lot, where there is no exit.
As Chris gets to the back of the lot, he stops, backs up a few feet, tries to turn the car around, doesn't make it, backs up again, and finally gets around. Essentially making a 5 point turn in a fairly large empty parking lot.
Chris drives past the store again not looking inside, and finally drives off.}}

One dreads to imagine how his financial incompetence will affect him once Barb is dead - knowing Chris, and while it is quite tragic, he'll probably continue in his destructive spending patterns until he loses everything he has, and even then, he'll [[Ego|learn nothing]].

===Chris's parental enabling===
Bob encouraged his son to remain unemployed, since he believed that Chris would earn more money from his monthly tugboat than he would have from getting a job. However, this assumption was and is inaccurate. Minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25 an hour. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.

A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that [[Chris and remorse|Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else)]] by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about "$6 a day for small things", buying him [[List of restaurants|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Get-Tar Region|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[Autism|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.

===Fan funding===
{{main|List of Chris's financial enablers}}

===Chris's beliefs===
[[File:Chris's economic theories.jpeg|thumb|right]]
Chris believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless junk, he is aiding the economy and paying for other people's tugboats.<ref>[[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever]]</ref> This is a [[Honor roll|damningly moronic conviction]], since sales tax goes to the state government and these "tugboats" are paid with ''federal'' payroll tax. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.

Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Chris and his Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond. His mother has served as a bad influence in both regards, as she would frequently shop at Goodwill and compulsively hoard the purchases, which both wasted money and helped turn their house into a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire hazard]].

On 16 [[May 2019]], Chris tweeted a screenshot of an NBC story about how "Ex-EPA chief Scott Pruitt spent nearly $124,000 on 'excessive airfare'." Chris then showed off his complex views on the U.S. economy by saying... {{quotebox|Hey, Everyone. Here’s a Think Piece: firstly, if people didn’t overspend so much, then there would be more money to give to charities around the world. And then that brought to mind that if things had not gone up in price (I Know About Inflation and that More Money has been officially printed and distributed over the decades), there would be more to freely give to those unfortunate. “Why, Back in the day, we used to pay a Nickel for a Hershey Bar. A Nickle! Now, it’s a dollar, dollar-fiddy; we could be using that $1.45 to feed the hungry everywhere. But, Everyone got greedy for the green and don’t appreciate it as much. A Nickel.” Yep, Grandpa, people have done goofed with inflation and crap. 😔}}<ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris has complex economic views]]</ref>

===After the house fire===
On [[10 January 2014]], 14 Branchland Court caught fire. This would undoubtedly place the Chandlers in grim circumstances, due to the costs of rebuilding the home and replacing what was lost. Some of his fans pooled their funds to send him a care package, with a money order for $500.<ref>[[Destruction Of Chris's House#Aftermath and reaction]]</ref>

Many, concerned about Chris due to his wasteful spending habits, hoped that this would be the moment in Chris's life where he finally woke up and realized the importance of saving when things like this happen. Unfortunately, not even ''that'' has broken Chris's thick skull – throughout 2014, he wasted '''$5,000''' on ''Lego sets''.<ref>[[Lego#Addiction and Financial Ruin]]</ref><ref>[[May 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

==Barb's toxic influence==
According to a troll with insider info, Chris was able to manage his own finances to a rudimentary degree, even after Bob passed away,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/giving-chris-money-debate-thread.22420/page-15#post-1844194</ref> although he still has an issue with not saving money for [[Destruction Of Chris's House|potential emergencies]].

The troll also asserted that Chris's financial hardships are caused, in most part, by [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] helping herself to Chris's monetary accounts in order to attempt paying her out-of-control debts.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/giving-chris-money-debate-thread.22420/page-15#post-1844194</ref>

{{quotebox|Barb is the one who has serious debt. She fucks up Chris' budgeting by erratically taking money from Chris' account when she needs it, generally without warning.

There are two types of Chris begging videos. One is when Chris wants a bit extra for some legos. You can identify those videos by how vague Chris' requests are, and how relaxed Chris is in the video. Chris isn't in meltdown mode in those videos.

Now, the other type of video is when Barb tried to snatch some money from Chris and Chris doesn't have anything for her. You can identify those videos by how freaked out Chris looks. He's visibly distressed and he's citing specific bills he's got to pay, usually things that seem un-Chris-like. That's when Barb is freaking out at him for not having enough money to pay her debts.

The thing is, the perception is that Chris is bad with money. He's not bad with money (as far as monthly budgeting goes). Despite how foggy Chris' head is, he's got enough memory to recognize patterns in bills over the course of a few months. He knows he's gotta pay electricity bills and rent and things like that. And he does do the math each month about what bills he's got to pay, and how much that leaves him for legos and food. You can't trust his begging. He begs because he wants more money, not because he's in any financial straits (that is, not including Barb).

He lives cheaply as shit. He saves money by buying dollar store shit. He's the type of person to buy single ply toilet paper at the dollar store. But sometimes he'll splurge and treat himself to things, like alcohol. He does this all while meeting his obligations, like his minimum payments and his bills.}}

Information from Cousin Al<ref>[[Catherine#The bowling outing]]</ref> revealed that Chris and Barb '''had''' an inheritance from Bob worth "tens of thousands of dollars". However, Barb spent all of it on hiring Rob Bell to defend herself (...and Chris) from legal charges incurred after [[28 October 2011|the two of them hit Michael Snyder with a car]]. It should be noted that a state-provided attorney would have been free and yielded the same result (pleading guilty), for the case was so cut-and-dry that even a lawyer of Bell's caliber had no chance of winning it.

In November 2014, Chris revealed to Renee that Barb was borrowing money from his life insurance.<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Barb is borrowing from Chris's life insurance]]</ref>

===Bank lawsuits against Barb===
In 2016, two banks, Discovery and Capital One, sued Barb for not paying '''over $20,000 total''' in debts, leaving the Chandlers ''even further'' in financial turmoil.

Barb herself appeared in multiple videos in 2016-17, trying to scam people into donating to her.

*[[Donations Required, Serious. Please help]]
*[[Donations Requested, Please]]
*[[Donations Further Requested, Please]]
*[[EMERGENCY HOME UPDATE]]

In the first two videos, Barb claimed not to have enough money for asthma medication, and in the third, she claimed to need money for dental work.

If Barb actually needed money for an emergency, she could simply have instructed Chris to sell some of their possessions. In the videos, Chris's toys and Barb's hoard are clearly visible behind them.

==Debt==
{{main|Debt}}

==Money-Making Schemes==
===Wheeling and Dealing===
Also known as [[Wikipedia:Return fraud|return fraud]]. Chris has a habit of buying a product from one store for a lower cost, then exchanging it for a higher amount of store credit at another store.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 15]]</ref>

===Lottery===
Chris considers the lottery to be ''an investment'', and not a form of gambling in reality. In September 2010, he told Jackie the following:<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 12]]</ref>

{{quotebox|I invest $4 weekly between Win For Life and Mega Millions; two plays each.}}

Cash4Life and Mega Millions currently costs $2 per play (as of 14 April 2019), meaning that if Chris stopped playing the lottery, he would save around $416 per year.

===Craigslist===
[[File:Chris chan bmw.jpg|thumb|right|The Craigslist ad.]]
{{main|Craigslist}}
In late [[October 2011]], Chris posted a Craigslist ad for a 12-year-old 32" CRT television and expected a non-negotiable $250 for it;<ref>[[Craigslist#Television]]</ref> in reality, this is about the price of a new flatscreen HDTV of that size, and he would be lucky to get a tenth of his asking price.

Chris placed two cars for sale on Craigslist in September 2014. One was a dilapidated, rusty 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block that hadn't run in over a year. Despite having a market value (as scrap) of approximately $150, Chris demanded $5,000 for the automobile, insisting that the cracked engine block made the car a great [[Chris and reality|"fixer upper."]] Chris also placed his mother's BMW z3 for sale. The 1999 BMW z3 is currently listed on the Roanoke Craigslist for $10,000 OBO. Kelley Blue Book estimates the car with 70,000 miles and in a fair condition is worth $4,318. Chris describes the car as "Mint condition Z3 model. Like a go-cart with rocket power. Seriously fun to drive 5 speed and pure joy with the top down. Color is jet black."

===Pawn shops===
{{main|List of Chris's video games#Chris (barely) lets go}}

Chris occasionally visits pawn shops or similar businesses, among them Snooky's Pawn Shop, GameStop and Plan 9 Music, to sell his old toys so that he can afford new ones.

===eBay===
{{main|eBay}}
Chris has long used eBay to sell bits of his toy hoard. He doesn’t put much effort into researching prices, and often lists items at vastly inflated prices. In August 2016, he listed a used VHS of ''Aladdin'' with a 'Buy it Now' price of ''$3,000''. There were no (legitimate) takers, probably because one can buy the same edition on Amazon for ''one penny'' (plus shipping, but still).

In June 2019, Chris’s account [[EBay#Suspension_of_Chris's_eBay|was restricted]], and all of the active listings were removed. Two reasons for the restriction against Chris are possible: either his seller approval rating was abysmal (84.7% on 21 June 2019),<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190621113537/https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=pristinechristine1982&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&rt=nc Wayback Machine’s snapshot] of pristinechristine1982’s eBay feedback, archived and accessed 21 June 2019.</ref> or that his PayPal account was in the red.

===Cwcville Shopping===
{{main|Chris and business}}
From 2014-2016, Chris sold custom arts and crafts, finally monetizing Sonichu, through [[eBay]], [[Etsy]] and [[Lulu]], before losing his business due to [[PS4|stress]].

===Kickstarter===
{{main|Kickstarter}}
On 23 September 2014, Chris opened a Kickstarter project, asking for $5,000 worth of Legos. At the end of the campaign, Chris raised $150 from 27 backers.

===Wish lists===
'''2015'''

On 13 [[December 2015]], Chris [[December 2015 Facebook Posts#GIMME GIFTS|posted]] an Amazon.com wish list. It was filled with over a thousand dollars worth of PS4 consoles, Lego sets and Skylanders toys.

Screenshots of the wish list can be found [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-671#post-1887026 here].

Trolls responded by spamming the "Buying this gift elsewhere?" option<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/12-13-seasons-greetings.15325/page-17#post-1152508</ref>. Chris believed that the items disappearing meant that he would be getting lots of toys for Christmas. Of course, he reacted to this supposed good fortune by '''making another wish list''', containing over $1,000 worth of Transformers action figures, Amiibos, and DVDs.<ref>[[December 2015 Facebook Posts#Chris reveals his measurements]]</ref>

Screenshots of the second wish list can be found [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-12-21-chris-on-amazon-wishlists-and-donating-a-ps4.15610/page-3#post-1162967 here].

He also requested "pretty dresses of blue or red" and gave his measurements as "44/39/40." Notably, one of the items he had marked as highest priority was the [[Megatron pistol]], implying that the original was lost or damaged in the 2014 house fire.

'''2016'''

During [[February 2016]], Chris begged his audience to buy him a PS4 with accessories for his birthday<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#GIMME STUFF FOR MY BIRTHDAY]]</ref>. He did not use Amazon, saying, "the Amazon Wish List is a definite fickle."<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/February_2016_Facebook_Posts#GIMME_STUFF_FOR_MY_BIRTHDAY</ref>

He provided a wish list with several links to stores such as GameStop and Best Buy. Notably, he had ended his "[[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers|embargo]]" against those shops, specifically to allow his fans to go there and buy him gifts.

He tried to provide an incentive, by offering a $500 voucher for his [[Etsy]] shop:

{{quotebox| The FIRST Person who purchases and sends me one, and I receive it Before or On February 24, 2016, I Will make and issue to the person a Big Voucher for $500 off on Cwcville Shopping. Which is equal to Ten Sonichu/Rosechu family Figures (more or less, depending on which ones), so all the person needs to pay on that order is the Shipping, and that order will definitely take up to Eight weeks for material figure acquiring, creations and certification.}}

After his birthday passed with no PS4, Chris uploaded [[Update: 2/25/16]], in which he complained about the lack of gifts, saying he had only gotten empty gift cards and a non-winning lottery ticket. He concluded the video by saying, "thanks for nothing!" like a spoiled child. In [[March 2016]], Chris [[Sonichu's First PS4 Broadcast|claimed]] that he had received a PS4 from [[Gal Pal E-mails 4#Used Porn for Sale|Kagney Lynn Moore]]. In reality, Chris had bought it himself<ref>[[March 2016 Facebook Posts#PS4 Thanks]]</ref>.

In [[November 2016]], Chris [[November 2016 Facebook posts#Wish list for 2016|posted]] another wish list, days after making [[Pmurt#Death Threats|death threats against President-elect Donald Trump]]. He requested $859.71 worth of toys<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fb-11-12-chriss-2016-wish-list-transformers-joke.25759/page-4#post-1876942</ref>. He also [[Chris and negotiation|forbade people from sending him gift cards]].

Halfway through November, Chris tweeted that he had bought several of the toys off his own wish list.<ref>[[Twitter#More wish list demands]]</ref>

On 26 November, Chris updated his wish list, removing the items he had bought from it<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Updated wish list]]</ref>and surprisingly not adding more toys, in spite of the [[Help, please]] begging video he had made in the meantime. However, the updated wish list's links were all broken, due to Chris simply copy-and-pasting the message from an earlier post. He failed to notice, even though the post has a large Page Not Found error thumbnail on it.

===YouTube monetization===
Chris has monetized most of the videos which appear on his YouTube channel, as another way of [[Etsy|profiting]] from his internet infamy. As further proof of Chris's entitlement issues, [[CatKnight Interview|Arthur Spatchcock]] discovered that at one point around [[March 2016]], Chris received $80 and was "pissed" that he hadn't gotten more.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/updated-6-1-2016-chris-spent-100-on-transformers-five-days-after-begging-for-money.21201/page-6#post-1496271</ref>

{{quotebox|This is going to become a pattern. Chris is going to do one of his 'Let's Plays' followed by an e-begging video and then polish it off by purchasing some dumb thing he doesn't need in excess of fifty bucks. He knows how this system works and it's the greatest amount of payoff with the least amount of work; the first time when Chris played Destiny he made 80$ from Youtube(And was surprisingly pissed it was that small, fuck that, I want eighty bucks from Youtube). Then he makes a video whining about how he needs more money and lo and behold, he gets even more~! If anything people are contributing to his float and that convinces him he can get away with being frivolous that much more. }}

SocialBlade estimates Chris' annual YouTube earnings as between $370 and $5,876.<ref>[https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/cwcvilleguardian socialblade]</ref> As of December 2019 however, the estimate has reduced to between $202 and $3294 annually.

===Let’s Plays===
In [[March 2016]], [[CatKnight Interview|Arthur Spatchcock]] introduced Chris to the idea of doing Let's Plays to boost his online activity and help him gain some money through YouTube's monetization program<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chrischan-interview-part-4-5-3-28-16.16934/page-16#post-1317924</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/updated-6-1-2016-chris-spent-100-on-transformers-five-days-after-begging-for-money.21201/page-6#post-1496271</ref>. The plan fell apart after Let's Plays of ''[[CWC's Destiny start|Destiny]]'' and ''[[Live Game Stream - Uncharted|Uncharted]]'', since by that point, Chris was [[Chris and Health|too lazy]] to play video games for money, and he simply wanted to [[Financhu Crisis|beg from his audience]] instead.

===YouTube Support button===
On 23 May 2016, Chris [[Live Game Stream - Uncharted|announced]] the debut of a Support button on his YouTube channel to replace the Etsy donation listing (which was forcibly removed due to it violating Etsy's TOS). He apparently got this idea from [[William Elliott Waterman]].<ref>[[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-reads-unicorns-rainbows-and-a-bluebird-of-happiness.21663/page-24#post-1563368]]</ref>

===Paypal.me===
Announced on 11 [[May 2017]].

{{quotebox|Cwcville Shopping I am the original creator of Sonichu and Rosechu, with more than eleven comic books worth of content under my helm. Please donate to help me quell my financial problems that quell my creativity. Ruckersville, VA}}

===Prostitution===
On 19 June 2016, aka Father’s Day, Chris decided to become [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|a prostitute]].

He has yet to receive any takers.

===Begging===
{{main|Financhu Crisis}}
[[File:Please, Donate (720p).mp400001.png|thumb|Chris, proving he has zero self-awareness]]
One of the earliest instances of Chris e-begging for money was in [[9 December 2009|December of 2009]]. Chris exhorted his alleged European [[Trolls|fanbase]] to donate €1,000 in order to remove troll ads from the CWCipedia.

In 2014, after his house [[Destruction Of Chris's House|caught fire]], Chris again resorted to e-begging for money, placing extra emphasis on ''"My mother and I really need the money,"'' despite dropping more than '''$5,000''' on expensive [[Lego]] sets to feed his worsening addiction. One would think that Chris would have wised up to the fact that his wanton spending and lack of gainful employment are contributing to his woes, but one glance at his [[May 2014 Facebook Posts]] could easily tell you that he's seeing his situation as an avenue to get stuff from people, the most ridiculous of which being a "$300 Sea Cow" on his wish list, which would not benefit anybody but himself in the slightest.

In 2016, Chris's e-begging drastically increased, as a result of the Chandlers' stubborn refusal to live within their means. That year saw Chris spend over $1,000 on toys, while both Chris and Barb had court cases resolved which penalized them with steep costs. In addition, Barb joined in to the begging, appearing in three videos so far.<ref>[[Donations Required, Serious. Please help]]</ref><ref>[[Donations Requested, Please]]</ref><ref>[[Donations Further Requested, Please]]</ref>

He asked for donations, or at least mentioned them, in many of the posts and videos he made in 2015 through 2016. At first, this was supposedly to fund his production of Sonichu merchandise, but he later shifted to saying that he and Barb needed help with paying the bills and buying groceries. While it's entirely possible that Chris was simply lying to get more money for [[Lego|useless]] [[Video games|crap]], this indicates that the financial hardships, which [[White knights|many]] [[Trolls|people]] have warned him about, have finally arrived. Only time will tell how his financial situation ultimately plays out, but given his attitude and inaction, the future definitely doesn't seem bright.

==In the comic==

[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|250px|[[CWCville]] currency.]]
In [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]] it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris in real life. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the [[United States of America|American]] populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two-story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|"paid" in average]] of US$3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].<ref>[[Mailbag 21#Home economics]]</ref>

While legislating as mayor of [[CWCville]], he equated 10 years in prison to a US$1,500 fine.<ref>[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref> He also equated fifty hours of [[Wikipedia:Community service|community service]] to $500 (for any [[sex]]ual violations).<ref>[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]</ref>

In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19:_Date_Ed_.28Even_Though_the_Idea_Sounds_Dated.29|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually issues its own currency, in the form of C-Quarters and W-Quarters. Ten C-Quarters make up a W-Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word "quarter" means]]. (Our best guess: C-Quarters = US$0.25, W-Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in U.S. dollars: perhaps to bolster the dictatorship's foreign currency reserves, ''à la'' [[Wikipedia:North Korea|North Korea]].

This makes even less sense considering [[CWCVille]] is part of the [[United States]]. States, let alone cities, cannot print their own money, despite holding considerable power over their own affairs. The Constitution expressly forbids anyone else other than the federal government from issuing currency. However, it has been somewhat common for companies, communities and local governments to issue localized currency known as 'scrip', a depression era practice still seen from time to time. [[Chris]] being Chris, and likely reading [[Goosebumps]] instead of paying attention in class likely is wholly unaware of this information.

On the [[CWCipedia]] article on Sonichu, Chris wrote that [[Rosechu]] is usually the one who cooks for her family, but when Sonichu cooks for his wife and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|kids]] he "will go as HIGH in portions as a Banquet", even though he only cooks for five individuals.<ref name=>[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Married Life and Children Sonichu]</ref> This suggest that Sonichu is just as frivolous with money as his father.

===Soup hotels===

Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American [[Wikipedia:Social Security (United States)|Social Security]] system if he was left in charge of it in a text called "[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]." This is where the idea of "Soup Hotels" came from.

{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels.|Chris with a very bad idea [http://leoweekly.com/news/left-wayside that has come to fruition in one American city...]}}

Chris depicts "Soup Hotels" as buildings ten stories tall with between ten and twenty rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, beds, lighting and cable television.<ref>[[Mailbag 20#This still implies that CWCville has a massive homeless problem]]</ref> Of course, the homeless stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in [[CWCville]], there are around 1,500 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.

In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and a bevy of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that [[CWCville]] has had to open at least seven new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things. Or more tellingly, that the economy of CWCville is crashing to the ground, fast.

==In other works==
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chris Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, ''à-la'' the season premieres of [[wikipedia:24 (TV Series)|''24'']]. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.

In [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris loses his mind|Mailbag 29]] he stated that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp, pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free [[Dating education|Sex Ed classes]] for [[virgin]]s.

In real life, according to Chris, he tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. He said the prostitute then hung up on him.

Chris also proves us that, in the possibility of being part of a family, he wouldn't be the main purveyor. In the [[PlayingHouse]] video, his [[sweetheart]] of [[Jackie|the moment]] is portrayed as a successful journalist with high ambitions while he's a [[14 Branchland Court|stay at home]] Dad. Even then, he portrays himself doing "hard work" like [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|changing diapers]] and watching over the kids. In this last role, he's so incompetent that he needs to recruit his [[Crystal|preschool daughter]] to watch over [[Reginald Chandler|his son]] while he's shopping. This is paralleled by his real life situation - with [[Bob]] gone, one would assume that he'd be the "man of the house" and assume some responsibility for once. Unfortunately, as evidenced by his [[This is how the Trial went|admission in court,]] Barb is still pulling his ass out of any such concept by paying his court fees. Keep in mind that, by extension, Chris is being minded by an ailing woman's retirement money which was used to bail him out of a mess that ''he'' started, while he wastes his own money on meaningless frivolities.

== Conclusion ==

Given Chris's carefree abandon when it comes to his spending habits, many are actually concerned as to what will happen to Chris when Barb passes on and he has to fend for himself. If past (and present) experiences are any indication, it's that if Chris continues on his path of not saving his money and spending it on frivolous crap that he doesn't need, he'll wind up broke and in severe debt. A [[Mumble_4|past conversation]] with [[Clyde Cash]] revealed that he doesn't even know the basic expenses that go into running a household, and we all know how Chris's plan of [[PlayingHouse|marrying a sweetheart to dump all of the financial responsibilities on her]] will [[Sweetheart#Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?|turn out.]]

Long story short, if Chris doesn't start saving for his future now, then when Barb finally passes on, he won't have one to look forward to. And he'll have nobody to blame but himself. ''(Not that he won't try, of course.)''

==See also==
*[[Chris and business]]
*[[Chris and work]]
*[[Financhu Crisis]]
*[[Lego]]
*[[Monthly tugboat]]

== References ==
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{{Chris and}}
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Jacob Sockness

2019-12-11T17:01:36Z

JonnyOfTheInternet: /* Friendzoning and second estrangement */

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{{quote|ONLY if he has lost [[Obesity|weight]] in that belly; [[:File:Sockness profile banner-min.png|his profile banner]] is Most unsettling to me.|Chris, [[Hypocrisy|criticizing Sockness]]<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1146446794005581824</ref>}}

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'''Jacob Sockness''' is a {{age|1983|4|1}}-year-old [[Chris]] fanatic and [[ween]] from San Francisco, California, who emerged in mid-[[2018]]. Like Chris, he is [[autism|autistic]],<ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/TheChurchofCWC/comments/bl78bl/magichan_2_need_to_talk_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app Sockness admits he is autistic]</ref> receives a [[monthly tugboat]], [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|believes he is a god]],<ref>[http://archive.is/eg2Gq Sockness claims to be the Hindu god Ganesha, archived 16 July 2019]</ref> thinks he has [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|magic powers]] and has built an elaborate fantasy universe, into which he has appropriated ''Sonichu'' characters, with over a dozen instalments that he believes [[Chris and reality|really exists]].<ref>[http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=1404026 Sockness's 19-volume series for sale on Lulu]</ref> From his traditional habit of showering enough praise on Chris to make even [[Kenneth Erwin Englehardt|Kengle]] blush, it appeared that, like him, Sockness was another autistic [[white knight]], albeit an exceptional one for expressing his love and sexual attraction towards him. However, his more recent behaviour has indicated [[ween|malicious]] intent behind his actions.

In mid-[[2019]], Sockness gained Chris's favour as the two agreed to work together financially following Chris's [[June 2019]] ban from [[eBay]], and achieved considerable influence over Chris's [[CWCville|own fantasy world]], as seen in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. Most of his courting and [[enablers|enabling]] has been through Twitter, though he would also promote himself through [[Reddit]], [[YouTube]] and even an unamused [[Kiwi Farms]]. For months, the two would express interest in meeting in person, to onlookers' alarm, yet when Sockness would finally set out to cross the American continent to [[14 Branchland Court]] in late September 2019, Chris rebuffed these efforts. Rehabilitation attempts over the following two months, at one point going even so far as mutual [[sweetheart|flirting]], could not ultimately repair their [[Heart Level|broken relationship]] enough to return to their former intimacy, and by the end of [[November 2019]] they rejected each other again.

==Discovery and motivations==
[[Image:Jacob Sockness CWC poster.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Sockness posing next to a Sonichu Through the Years poster sold by Chris.]]
Jacob was discovered by chance by [[Kiwi Farms]] user [https://kiwifarms.net/members/neural.18444/ neural] while observing the [[weens|many]] [[A-log|users]] surrounding Chris's Twitter posts. After further digging, it was revealed that he also created a Kiwi Farms account under the name [https://kiwifarms.net/members/jacob-js.26961/ Jacob JS]. It was in his profile page where he accidentally doxxed himself by posting links to his [[Facebook]] page and Tumblr blogs that reveals his personal information. As he exposed himself on the Farms, Sockness, like [[Michael Hirtes]], is considered to be a ''halal'' lolcow.

Like many of Chris's orbiters, Sockness is a furry and lives in [[wikipedia:Section_8_%28housing%29|subsidised housing]] with a [[tugboat]]. He has a very low view of [[niggos|blacks]], describing them as 'beastly' and 'hyper sexual', believing that 'their race can only rape, because that is [their] way of reproduction in a natural setting.'<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jacob-sockness-michiro-hutaki-agian-siin-jacob-js-darkseed2012-ramleironheart.48287/ Sockness's lolcow thread on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Unlike the [[Idea Guys]], who would inject such themes into Chris's mind for their own amusement, Jacob seems to be genuine. Sockness also controls several sockpuppets to white-knight himself and converse with, while claiming them to be different people; like Chris's [[Disguises|similar past attempts]] to cover himself, these are quite feeble and transparent.

Before disappearing temporarily from the Internet in May 2019, Christorians could not discern the true motivations behind Sockness's unusual behaviour. For a while, Jacob appeared to be the first [[TRUE and HONEST]] believer in [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]] after Chris, setting him apart from the [[Jessica Quinn|various]] [[CWCProtectSquad|trolls]] professing to protect Chris and the [[Sarah and Steve|many]] [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|previous]] [[Multidimensional White Knights|imitators]] of the [[Idea Guys]] pretending to belong to Chris's abortive [[Chris and his Ego|personality cult]]. More recent evidence, however, shows that his feelings are not entirely earnest: though Jacob remains positively convinced that his own intergalactic demons are part of this [[Reality Cartoon]], one cannot tell whether he truly believes in Sonichu's existence. When Chris allowed Jacob access to his Twitter account on 11 July 2019, he boasted about it on [[Reddit]], even claiming that his sexual attraction to Chris was a facade.<ref>[[:File:KinkAct.png|Sockness states his erotic desires for Chris are not genuine, 11 July 2019]]</ref> On 21 September 2019, when a [[white knight|concerned onlooker]] tried to warn Chris that Sockness was tantamount to an autistic [[Idea Guy]], Sockness embraced the charges of manipulation, justifying his actions as protecting Chris against other trolls.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-15-sockness-enabling-chriss-magi-chan-role-playing-luring-him-for-a-visit.59770/post-5361506 Dialogue between Sockness and onlooker]</ref>

[[Image:SocknessExplainsHimself.PNG|250px|right]]

== Early interactions with Chris==

{{quote|The Sacred Shoes have samples of cat & doggy DNA. Looking for the Treasures of Heaven, a single hair from Christine's head to put into an amulet of serious power to manifest one's dreams. This is a divine experience.|Sockness<ref><s>https://twitter.com/darkseed2012/status/1107477177149251585</s> Deleted</ref>}}

Sockness has spent hundreds on buying items from Chris's [[eBay]], notably buying his old shoes for worshipping purposes. Eventually, Jacob got too retarded for even Chris to handle; Chris blocked him on [[Twitter]] on 31 January 2019. By 22 [[May 2019]], Jacob's YouTube channel was terminated, and his Twitter account seemed to have disappeared.

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Still, this would not be the end of Sockness's involvement with Chris; he would create a new Twitter account named Chris Kink. On 11 July 2019, while Chris was trying to raise funds to pay for a hotel room at the 2019 [[BronyCon]], troll [[SonichuMerch]] told Chris that Sockness might be interested in buying his bath water. Chris saw dollar signs and followed Sockness.

{{quote|The Sonichu merch guy told Chris I was interested in the buying some bath water. The guy doesn't know I have no money to buy it due to issues with Social Security in May. Even if I had the money, Chris has to follow some exact rules to creating what I need from him. I need him to make and bless some holy water with his juices in it.|Sockness explains why Chris started following him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cbmq7m/chris_is_following_sockness_on_twitter/ethqxsd/</ref>}}

After establishing direct communication with Chris, on 14 July, Sockness tweeted that he would open a vendor account on [[eBay]] for Chris, acting as warehouse, clearing-house and middleman. Chris responded with gratitude.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-14-chris-will-circumvent-his-ebay-seller-ban-by-teaming-up-with-sockness.58419/ Twitter 7/14 - Chris will circumvent his Ebay seller ban by teaming up with Sockness]</ref> The next day, Chris re-tweeted a GoFundMe campaign by Sockness to raise $300, nominally as a ''shipping fund''.<ref>http://archive.fo/nkTcS</ref> As of [[September 2019]], Sockness has failed to restore Chris's access to eBay, which would be prohibited at any rate, though he has continued to set up GoFundMe pages for [[Chris and money|Chris's incidental expenses]], as when [[Son-chu|his car]] broke down and needed a thousand dollars worth of repairs.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Car is repaired but Chris needs cash (again)]]</ref>

[[File:JacobWhiteKnight.jpg|thumb|200px|left|White Knight Blue Heart, Sockness's primary Twitter identity while planning to travel to Chris's home.]]
[[File:Sonichu14-2019draft-p15.jpg|thumb|200px|Jakoba in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]].]]

Once Sockness had his foot in the door, he began talking to Chris about his own alternate dimension fantasies, further enabling Chris's delusional thoughts.

{{quote|Firstly, and mainly, I am not under Anyone’s Control. And second, I still support the Rokat and all the good peoples in Andromeda. I need to meditate further for more sound responses and thoughts. For now I will simply state that your research is valuable, indeed. Going silent.|Chris, addressing Sockness. He believes he is not under anyone's control while parroting Sockness's lore.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1154376923520352256</ref>}}

Chris featured Jakoba, an OC created by Sockness, in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. As Sockness put it: "She drew Jakoba, from one of mine when her CPU pals wanted to see the Rokat".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cgybzh/chris_drawing_with_his_awkward_pen_grip_while/euxv3zz/</ref> For most of summer 2019, the two would interact relatively little, though other [[weens]] would try to push them closer together.<ref>[[Sarah and Steve]]</ref> In [[August 2019]], Chris, through his [[Magi-Chan]] sockpuppet on Twitter, [[naïve]]ly dismissed Sockness's violent inclinations and approved the idea of him coming to visit.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan responds to Sockness' violent tendencies]]</ref> Meanwhile, Sockness would complain on Reddit that [[Chris and work|Chris's laziness]] would delay the [[Dimensional Merge]] (or ''Merger'', as he calls it) practically for ever.<ref>[http://archive.is/CrUwb Sockness grumbles that Chris's laziness will protract the Merge until he is dead of old age]</ref>

[[File:AlogSockness.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Jacob A-Logging Snyder.]]
On 20 September, a rumor began making the rounds amongst Christorians that Michael [[Snyder]] opened a new game store just outside the DC Suburbs. A link to an obituary site that listed one for Michael's father was also circulating and Jacob took the liberty of leaving a threatening comment in the guestbook. He basically said that God struck him down for Michael banning Chris from his store and that Chris and Magi-Chan will start the Dimensional Merge. He also added that God will strike down Michael next, all punctuated with a creepy picture of him donning his Chris garb and a cowboy hat.<ref>https://www.hillandwood.com/guestbook/255474</ref>

== Abortive Virginia trip ==
[[File:Socknesstraininfo.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Sockness's ominously one-way train ticket, with dates blacked out. Astute Kiwis have calculated that Sockness should have arrived on Saturday evening (28 September 2019) in [[Charlottesville]] had he continued.]]
On 7 [[September 2019]], Sockness released a [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|fabricated conversation]] between himself and [[Magi-Chan]] from [[May 2019|that May]], in which he declared that he and Chris would need meet in person and marry for the [[Dimensional Merge]] to proceed. Though Chris affirmed thereafter that the counterfeit dialogue was [[TRUE and HONEST|trustworthy]] and [[Financhu Crisis|begged]] for the funding to travel to California<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sockness-manipulated-chris-with-threat-to-stop-the-merge-rping-as-magi-chan.60642/post-5298762</ref>, he changed tactics within a few days, stating on Twitter that Chris, [[Chris and reality|in Magi-Chan's body]], had arrived on the West Coast from "behind the [[dimension]]al curtain",<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Longing for the Teen Troon Saga]]</ref> while Chris's body was safely in [[Virginia]]. Nevertheless, Chris remained interested in Sockness coming to visit him at [[14 Branchland Court|home]].<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#The fabled return of the real Chris]]</ref>

[[File:BarneySatanism.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|The rift between Jacob and Chris continued to widen on 28 September 2019, when Chris refused to join in Sockness's worship of [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney]], whom Jacob believes to be Satan.]]
As autumn 2019 began, months of casual on-line role-playing would come to a head: on 24 September, Sockness reported that he had bought train tickets to make the transcontinental trip to Chris.<ref>[https://archive.fo/vS8ac Sockness announces he has secured transport on Reddit]</ref> He made clear that his intent was both [[Chris and sex|sexual]] and [[Chris and violence|violent]] on Reddit, comparing his plans for Chris's rear to Germany's devastation by Allied bombings during [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|the War]],<ref>[http://archive.is/kGTRi Sockness: 'I'll just destroy her ass like carpeting bombing Germany in WWII. It'll be in flaming ruin.']</ref> despite being physically incapable of such a feat.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5643632 Sockness reveals incapacity to rape Chris, 27 November 2019]</ref>

However, only a day later, Chris posted a statement on Twitter along with a short audio clip, [[ChrisReleasesAStatementRegardingJacobSockness]], indicating his desire for Sockness to return home after Sockness had left for Virginia, and saying that somebody in Chicago would provide him with a return ticket.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/post-5384612 Chris declares Sockness's destiny is to go home, asks his followers to stop him in Chicago]</ref> It seemed that Chris had a moment of clarity long enough to realise the magnitude of what was possibly going to happen if he let Sockness make his way to Virginia and into [[14BC]]. He elaborated on his decisions a day later, including a statement from one of Jacob's imaginary gods, Michiro. In his statement, Chris cited [[Chris and health|his health]] as unconducive to having guests, and that Jacob had gone down the path of evil. Chris also said that he foresaw that he and Jacob would end up in a similar situation to how Chris and [[Cole Smithey]] are. On 26 September, Sockness admitted defeat, tweeting that his "involvement with the Dimensional Merge has ended in failure" and that he would delete his Twitter account upon returning home.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/page-6#post-5384295 Sockness quits, tweet screenshot mirrored on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Chris would confirm that Sockness had turned back the next day.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Sockness is going home]]</ref> In a [[honor roll|poorly thought out]] attempt to save face, Sockness would later claim that his train ticket was his own forgery, and the entire Virginia trip a sham.<ref name=hoax>[[:File:SockHoax.jpg|Tweet by Sockness, 16 October 2019]]</ref>

== Failed romance ==
[[File:Sockness managing Chris's Patreon.jpeg|thumb|200px|Sockness handling Chris's Patreon funding, as he did with Ebay earlier in the year.]]
Despite spending over $1,500 through the course of his failed bid for Chris's attention, Sockness remained determined to win his prize in the end, and managed to slither back into Chris's inner circle of orbiters despite his dangerous behaviour. He apologised for his [[Chris and anger|emotional outbursts]] to reconcile with Chris, and has indicated that he wishes to try visiting Chris again at some indeterminate future time, making sure to bring a mutual friend along with him.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:SocknessPlans.png</ref> When Chris indicated on 28 September his wish to attend [[April 2020|BABSCon]], to be held in April 2020 just outside of San Francisco, Sockness consoled himself that he would see Chris in person after all.<ref>[http://archive.is/j8eth Sockness's Twitter, archived 30 September 2019]</ref> However, he and Chris would not converse again for over two weeks after this.
[[File:TruePals.png|thumb|200px|left|Sarah and Steve declare themselves outright to favour Sockness with this original artwork.]]
Halfway through October 2019, Sockness entered the picture again. On 12 October, Chris whined on Twitter about complaints from customers regarding the [[Patreon]] books they had not received.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Chris orders the Shipfic cards, snaps at customers wanting books]]</ref> Sockness, sensing an opportunity to regain access to Chris, discussed the matter with him, and then announced with his approval<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Good News to Patient Patrons (Patreon post)]]</ref> that he would be taking over management of the Patreon's financing, ostensibly to help, in a similar move to his managing Chris's eBay several months earlier. Emboldened, Sockness proclaimed on 16 October that he would fly to Virginia sometime about [[Halloween]].<ref name=hoax /> He promptly resumed hitting on Chris over Twitter, with Chris playing into it: on 19 October, Sockness, commenting on a video clip of cosplayers kissing, said: "How about it Love @CPU_CWCSonichu?", to which Chris answered, "I’m not gonna cosplay as Deadpool or a Zombie, but we can kiss at the future time."<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref> Halloween 2019 came and went with no indication that Sockness had flown to Virginia as he said he would.

Shifting tactics, Sockness determined to cordon Chris off from other social interactions, establishing himself as the only one Chris could trust. On 3 [[November 2019]] he managed to sour Chris's opinion of [[Null]].<ref>[[Null#Chris turns against Null]]</ref> Later that week, Sockness allied with a newly returned [[Sarah and Steve]] in byzantine Twitter dialogues ''defending'' Chris against others, including the [[Multidimensional White Knights]] and [[MKRNightVee]], who also seek to gain influence over him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5562273 Peak autism, 8 November 2019]</ref> Among his methods to suppress rivals, Sockness would harass MKRNightVee in direct messages.<ref name=screech>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5646079 Merge table talk, 27 November 2019]</ref> Further seeking to cut Chris off from other contacts, including those who [[Guard Dogs|genuinely mean him well]], Sockness created a list of various [[Kiwi Farms]] and [[Twitter]] users he deemed untrustworthy for criticising his bid for control.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5576554 Sockness's Black Book, 11 November 2019]</ref>
=== Friendzoning and second estrangement ===
{{quote|I was following the request of Magi-Chan to keep on with Jacob, yet my feelings for him have developed, during the months. As for the present, I had to cool the romance, because even I Knew the whole time it was not meant to be, and Jacob's usefulness had become compromised.|Chris explaining his reasons for involving himself with Sockness to a random [[ween]]<ref name=aqua>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5653000 Chris blames Magi-Chan for Sockness, 30 November 2019]</ref>}}
Pressuring Chris to abandon his other contacts ultimately backfired. Chris received the list itself lukewarmly: while he affirmed that he was in [[Love Quest|love]] with Sockness, he still maintained some reservations on account of his many faults.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5574329 Chris endorses Sockness against MKR, 11 November 2019]</ref> He challenged Sockness, noting that the list comprised mostly of Sockness's own enemies and asking whether he would be blacklisted also were he to turn on him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5578153 Chris's challenge for Sockness, 11 November 2019]</ref> Sockness went on to defeat the various pretenders to his position without much fanfare, though in vain: Chris was repulsed by Sockness's professed associations with demons, and issued a statement on 28 November 2019 that he was not in a romantic relationship with him, and moreover that the Dimensional Merge would be endangered by such intimacy with him.<ref>[http://archive.is/FVISg Chris rejects Sockness's overtures, 28 November 2019]</ref> His decision was applauded by other weens, some of whom had become Jacob's targets. Nonetheless, Chris still counts Sockness as a friend, and thinks of himself as protecting him against demons.<ref name=screech />

As had come to pass two months earlier, when Chris disrupted his journey to Virginia, Sockness responded to the word that he had been rejected with [[tard rage]]. He delivered an [[Chris and negotiation|ultimatum]] to Chris, threatening to revoke his tacit permission to use his fictional setting in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and pursue him for [[Things Chris has ripped off|copyright infringement]] if he continues to use them, unless, of course, they become [[homos|husband]] and [[tomgirl|wife]].<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/11-29-sockness-takes-his-ball-and-goes-home.63588/post-5650528 Sockness turns on Chris, 29 November 2019]</ref> While he mostly conceded, agreeing with [[Stress|indifference]] no longer to use Jacob's demonic characters in his own works, he displayed in an autistic Parthian shot his usual [[honor roll|comprehension level]] of how [[Chris and copyright|intellectual property]] works: Chris's own experiences and memories of Jacob's [[dimensions|fictional universe]] were inviolable. Sockness remained adamant, sternly reiterating the [[Chris and the law|legal limits]] on what Chris could do [[Chris and money|financially]] with his characters in an endeavour to bring him back into his flabby arms. Chris remained firm, stolidly divesting himself of him by writing off their past business together as being at [[Magi-Chan]]'s request and describing Sockness as having outlived his usefulness.<ref name=aqua /> Another nail to the coffin was a series of videos released by GiBi (a Youtube personality) of interviews with Jacob Sockness, showing his 'true' colours and that he does not believe in the dimensional merge. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhV7At8N4x4&t=274s]</ref> Neither has spoken to the other since. Chris's own autistic machinations ultimately thwarted him.

{{clear}}

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User:JonnyOfTheInternet

2019-12-11T16:45:10Z

JonnyOfTheInternet: Created page with "Hi everyone, just here to help keep the wiki updated, true and honest."

Hi everyone, just here to help keep the wiki updated, true and honest.

Other enablers

2019-12-11T16:44:00Z

JonnyOfTheInternet: /* Helena Fiorenza */

Since the [[Idea Guys]] saga, the go-to method for those trying to influence Chris has been to act as '''enablers''' of his delusions, replacing the previous method of posing as [[sweethearts]]. Enablers differ from [[weens]] in that they avoid making poor attempts to annoy Chris, instead focusing on ingratiating themselves to him with the effect of furthering his delusions.

==Helena Fiorenza==
[[File:Helena Fiorenza with Magi-Chan.jpg|thumb|200px|Helena with Magi-Chan.]]
'''Helena Fiorenza''', also known by her Twitter handle '''PickinyFelliny''', is an Argentinian who draws surrealistic art. In September 2019, Helena posted to Twitter photoshopped drawings of [[Magi-Chan]] and role-played that she and Magi-Chan had gone on a date, tagging [[MagiChan111448]]<ref>https://archive.md/Q8Taw</ref>. Chris noticed and followed Helena back. While in his own phase of role-playing as Magi-Chan, Chris answered:

{{quoteboxpurple|The images Helena has been uploading chronicled the one day she and I shared together, and yes, I did spend the night; her bed was comfortable. Thank you for your kindness and hospitality. My wish I made is coming true, as I had foreseen. 💜⚡️ }}

<center><gallery>
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan1.png
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan2.png
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan3.png
</gallery></center>

In later updates she started to add to drawings of her OC (Known as Jeffrey) that was a trap. In later tweets she heavily implied that [[Magi-Chan]] and Jeffrey were dating, to which Chris noted on Nov 30th:
{{quoteboxpurple|He does like to have fun at times, so his brain is not overworked. He also does enjoy the simple things when he can. }}

<center><gallery>
File:Relax.png
File:Slutty magichan2-small.png
File:Slutty magichan-small.png
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan4.jpg
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan5.jpg
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan6.jpg
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan7.jpg
</gallery></center>

==AquaDiamond8==
{{quote|Christine...Please stop this, Mewtwo is not real, the [[merge]] is not happening, you need serious help. If you need help there are people to help you with these delusions. This is incredibly unhealthy for you.|AquaDiamond8, March 2019<ref>http://archive.md/50xPX</ref>}}

{{quote|Still i dont want <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Jacob Sockness]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> attacking my people when the merge happens, Christine has said there will be no more war or need for violence in the merge, my Sapphire has forseen this |AquaDiamond8 changes her tune, November 2019<ref>http://archive.ph/0bMDM</ref>}}

[[File:Magi-Chan and AquaDiamond8.jpg|AquaDiamond8 and Magi-Chan. Drawn by Aqua November 2019.|thumb|200px]]

'''AquaDiamond8''' is a Twitter user who has bounced from being a [[ween]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-988#post-4495303</ref>, to a [[white knight]], to an enabler. In November 2019, after having tried to discourage Chris's delusions months before, Aqua abruptly switched tactics and instead embraced Chris's delusional beliefs. She changed her Twitter handle to "CPU Goddess Aqua of the Mac Book Pro", echoing a similar move as fellow enabler [[MKRNightVee]]. Later, Aqua began drawing fanart of her [[OC]] interacting with [[Magi-Chan]]<ref>http://archive.md/lGets</ref>. She then posted a Pokémon drawing, claiming it to be an alt-dimension Magi-Chan<ref>http://archive.md/ETlxV</ref>:

{{quoteboxgreen|[[File:Val Valentino, The Masked Magician.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Val Valentino, The Masked Magician. A celestial powerful magician

Dex Enter: "This Magi-Chan is so powerful he has to mentally project a simplified form that the human mind can comprehend. Looking at his true form would drive you mad."

Dex #: unknown}}

Chris was enticed by this news:

{{quotebox|Seriously? You disovered an alt-dimension Magi-Chan Sonichu? This is a very interesting find. I'll look more into this one for myself.

Also, for your information, regardless of which variant, Dimension or Timeline of origin, Special, Regular, or Mega Evolved, the Pokedex Number for Sonichu and Rosechu will always be at #982 and #979, respectively.}}

Aqua answered:

{{quoteboxgreen|Oh i wasnt aware ill make sure to write that down. But he more discovered me in a way. I was meaning to chat with [[Polyamorous marriage|your hubby]] when i realized i wasnt in our normal meeting spot, then he appeared through a portal.}}

==References==
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{{Fantasies}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

Other enablers

2019-12-11T16:43:37Z

JonnyOfTheInternet: /* Helena Fiorenza */

Since the [[Idea Guys]] saga, the go-to method for those trying to influence Chris has been to act as '''enablers''' of his delusions, replacing the previous method of posing as [[sweethearts]]. Enablers differ from [[weens]] in that they avoid making poor attempts to annoy Chris, instead focusing on ingratiating themselves to him with the effect of furthering his delusions.

==Helena Fiorenza==
[[File:Helena Fiorenza with Magi-Chan.jpg|thumb|200px|Helena with Magi-Chan.]]
'''Helena Fiorenza''', also known by her Twitter handle '''PickinyFelliny''', is an Argentinian who draws surrealistic art. In September 2019, Helena posted to Twitter photoshopped drawings of [[Magi-Chan]] and role-played that she and Magi-Chan had gone on a date, tagging [[MagiChan111448]]<ref>https://archive.md/Q8Taw</ref>. Chris noticed and followed Helena back. While in his own phase of role-playing as Magi-Chan, Chris answered:

{{quoteboxpurple|The images Helena has been uploading chronicled the one day she and I shared together, and yes, I did spend the night; her bed was comfortable. Thank you for your kindness and hospitality. My wish I made is coming true, as I had foreseen. 💜⚡️ }}

<center><gallery>
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan1.png
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan2.png
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan3.png
</gallery></center>

In later updates she started to add to drawings of her OC (Known as Jeffrey) that was a trap. In later tweets she heavily implied that he [[Magi-Chan]] and Jeffrey were dating, to which Chris noted on Nov 30th:
{{quoteboxpurple|He does like to have fun at times, so his brain is not overworked. He also does enjoy the simple things when he can. }}

<center><gallery>
File:Relax.png
File:Slutty magichan2-small.png
File:Slutty magichan-small.png
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan4.jpg
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan5.jpg
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan6.jpg
File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan7.jpg
</gallery></center>

==AquaDiamond8==
{{quote|Christine...Please stop this, Mewtwo is not real, the [[merge]] is not happening, you need serious help. If you need help there are people to help you with these delusions. This is incredibly unhealthy for you.|AquaDiamond8, March 2019<ref>http://archive.md/50xPX</ref>}}

{{quote|Still i dont want <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Jacob Sockness]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> attacking my people when the merge happens, Christine has said there will be no more war or need for violence in the merge, my Sapphire has forseen this |AquaDiamond8 changes her tune, November 2019<ref>http://archive.ph/0bMDM</ref>}}

[[File:Magi-Chan and AquaDiamond8.jpg|AquaDiamond8 and Magi-Chan. Drawn by Aqua November 2019.|thumb|200px]]

'''AquaDiamond8''' is a Twitter user who has bounced from being a [[ween]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-988#post-4495303</ref>, to a [[white knight]], to an enabler. In November 2019, after having tried to discourage Chris's delusions months before, Aqua abruptly switched tactics and instead embraced Chris's delusional beliefs. She changed her Twitter handle to "CPU Goddess Aqua of the Mac Book Pro", echoing a similar move as fellow enabler [[MKRNightVee]]. Later, Aqua began drawing fanart of her [[OC]] interacting with [[Magi-Chan]]<ref>http://archive.md/lGets</ref>. She then posted a Pokémon drawing, claiming it to be an alt-dimension Magi-Chan<ref>http://archive.md/ETlxV</ref>:

{{quoteboxgreen|[[File:Val Valentino, The Masked Magician.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Val Valentino, The Masked Magician. A celestial powerful magician

Dex Enter: "This Magi-Chan is so powerful he has to mentally project a simplified form that the human mind can comprehend. Looking at his true form would drive you mad."

Dex #: unknown}}

Chris was enticed by this news:

{{quotebox|Seriously? You disovered an alt-dimension Magi-Chan Sonichu? This is a very interesting find. I'll look more into this one for myself.

Also, for your information, regardless of which variant, Dimension or Timeline of origin, Special, Regular, or Mega Evolved, the Pokedex Number for Sonichu and Rosechu will always be at #982 and #979, respectively.}}

Aqua answered:

{{quoteboxgreen|Oh i wasnt aware ill make sure to write that down. But he more discovered me in a way. I was meaning to chat with [[Polyamorous marriage|your hubby]] when i realized i wasnt in our normal meeting spot, then he appeared through a portal.}}

==References==
<references/>

{{Fantasies}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan7.jpg

2019-12-11T16:40:22Z

JonnyOfTheInternet:

File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan6.jpg

2019-12-11T16:40:03Z

JonnyOfTheInternet:

File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan5.jpg

2019-12-11T16:39:50Z

JonnyOfTheInternet:

File:Helena Fiorenza and Magi-Chan4.jpg

2019-12-11T16:39:16Z

JonnyOfTheInternet: Small comic strip

== Summary ==
Small comic strip